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Did you get my beer?
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Cute, Bob.
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Real cute.
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See anything you like?
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What's the matter,
can't I get your ghost, Bob?
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All right, all right.
Come on. Where's my beer?!
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You're weird.
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I'm gonna call Mickey,
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see where Paul and Annie are.
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This is going nowhere.
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Finally.
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Hello.
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Ah!
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Ah! Ahhh!
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Ah! Agh!
Hello?
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-Ah! Ugh!
-All right, Adam.
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First, I get
your famous chewing,
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and now I get
your famous squealing?
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Agh! Ah!
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Ah!
Adam, are you all right?
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Aghhh! Ahhh!
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Agh! Ah!
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Are you fooling
around again?
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I'll kill you
if this is a joke.
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Hello.
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Hello?
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Welcome to "The Core."
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Hey, that's my line.
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John Carpenter's "Halloween"
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is the foundation
for modern horror.
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In fact, it spawned the entire
idea of the slasher franchise.
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-Hah!
-Aah!
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I'm Chucky!
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At the time it came out in 1978,
"Grease" was the word.
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"Superman" ticket sales
were up, up, and away.
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But then...
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...a little flick
about babysitters
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terrorized by a faceless
killer in a dime-store mask
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suddenly slashed its way
to the top of the box office.
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Not since "Psycho" had the
American public been so excited
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by, well, a psycho.
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The torch that scream queen
Janet Leigh held alit
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was passed
to her daughter Jamie,
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who became the original
final girl.
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John Carpenter took a film
that nobody believed in,
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set it to a simple piano melody,
and, well, the rest is history.
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Without it, there's no
"Friday the 13th,"
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there's no "Scream," there's no
"Nightmare on Elm Street."
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So why is it so effective?
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Let's find out.
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We have the perfect people here
today to talk about "Halloween."
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She's the heir apparent
to Michael Myers
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and the star of
"Halloween 4," "5"...
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-Uncle.
-...and Rob Zombie's remakes.
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Ah-aah!
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His entire body of work is
a love letter to '80s slashers,
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none of which would be possible
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without the original
"Halloween."
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It's Adam Green
and Danielle Harris.
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I just want to hear both
of your thoughts
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on how significant
the entire franchise was.
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When you think about
how huge "Psycho" was...
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It captivated the world.
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And -- And then what?
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I think Michael Myers was
really the answer to that.
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And what did they do
with "Psycho"?
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Like after "Halloween"
started franchise horror
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and "Friday the 13th,"
then we got "Psycho II."
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Psycho
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II.
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Nowadays, they're
all franchise horror.
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But they're all looking
for the next Michael Myers
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and no one's really quite
accomplished that yet.
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-No one ever will.
-I don't know why
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that is, though.
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Because Michael Myers
is the king.
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-'Cause he started it.
-Yes.
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You know, what's creepy
about "Halloween"
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is this person could be anybody.
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Usually,
someone in their family
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kills them. It's not usually,
Right.
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you know, the -- the --
the crazed guy next door,
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-Absolutely.
-which you don't really know.
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You're bringing up
a really good point.
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"Halloween" was so frightening
because no one knows why.
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That is why
it was so scary.
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And you didn't need
to know anything else.
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Michael got up, right?
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You can't kill evil.
Evil never dies.
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That's what's so terrifying.
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"Halloween" is
the most iconic.
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I mean, that music.
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Everybody knows that music.
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They all know what
Michael Myers looks like.
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Even if they haven't seen
the movie, they know that.
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And I think that movie is one
of the most effective
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because they went in
and it wasn't to set up
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"Halloween" I
for "Halloween II."
Danielle: Right.
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Originally, it wasn't
going to be
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sequel after sequel
after sequel.
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Carpenter's original vision
was to have the sequels
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each be something
different set on Halloween
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and they tried that
with "Halloween III,"
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Danielle: Mm-hmm.
which, at first, was rejected.
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And Carpenter's movie
was not bloody.
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It wasn't relying on gore,
but the sequels were
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'cause that was the time.
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Your imagination's
always gonna be better
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than whatever you see.
Mickey: Totally.
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That's why you never wanna
show gags,
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unless they're reallygood.
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I wonder if it -- if it's gonna
make that -- that --
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uh, that trip right back
to where it had started.
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'Cause it seems like
nobody buys it anymore.
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Why do you think
that we are so
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enamored
with Laurie Strode?
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Why do you think that
she's so significant?
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It was the, uh, first time
that heroine, the final girl,
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really took over
and beat the bad guy.
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Mickey: Right.
I mean, there's women sitting
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in the audience that --
that may have wanted
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to break free of whatever was
happening in their life
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-Yep.
-And I think it was sort of
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a-a moment to feel like
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"Oh, my God, I can --
I could be strong.
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I don't hate to hide.
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I don't have to depend on a man.
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I can rise above and --
and win at the end."
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She was the girl next door.
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I mean,
she was the babysitter.
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Everyone relates to that.
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Maybe there's girls like me
that are in the audience,
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that are seeing those girls,
and go like,
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"I can do that, too.
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I can get bad guy."
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Woman: She's got a gun!
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I killed him.
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Adam, please tell us about
how "Halloween" influenced
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your entire
filmography, really,
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'cause "Hatchet"
is clearly like
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an homage to a lot
of different slashers.
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Were you makin'
the film, saying,
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"I want Victor Crowley to be
as big as Michael Myers"?
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Was that the intention?
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Well, no.
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I mean, you --
'cause you can't.
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-Yeah.
-No one's ever going to make
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a slasher movie
like "Halloween" again.
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I mean, the fact that
he made something
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that was so terrifying
without needing gore --
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or really even violence,
when you really think
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about it, but it was
atmosphere and unknown.
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And it just -- I mean,
it still works to this day.
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Aaaaaaaaaaah!
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Danielle, obviously,
you have
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a filmography full
of "Halloween."
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I want to talk about how
the films influenced you.
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-Well, it really messed me up.
-Yeah? How so?
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-It did, yeah.
-Aah!
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Help me,
please! Somebody!
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I have nightmares.
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It's really screwed up my life.
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Aaaaah!
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Ah!
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I'm just kidding.
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Um, I'm here.You're here.
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Fairly sane.
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Listen, I was 10, right?
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So I really had
no idea, I think,
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what I was getting myself into.
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I was just, I think,
superexcited to like
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go to Utah
and make a movie.
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Well, the story
with "The Shining"
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is that the little kid
didn't even know that
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he was in a horror movie
until the very end.
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Clearly, that doesn't
sound the case with you.
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No.
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No, I was excited.
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-Yeah.
-I mean, it was fun.
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Everyone on set makes sure
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that you are not scared
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Mickey: Okay.
and that you're having
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a good time. You know, you got
Sure.
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a lot of aunts and uncles
and people
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playing with you and --
That sounded horrible,
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but, you know, just saying.
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You know what I mean.
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The only scene they wouldn't
let me be in, in that movie,
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was in the car when he gets
his head pulled off.
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-Aaaaaaah!
-Arggggggghhh!
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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They'd stick me
on an 18-foot roof and --
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with no harness and throw me --
you know, make me slide down
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and do all kinds
of other horrible things,
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but that was the one
they wouldn't let me do.
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I had a great experience.
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I think, if it weren't
for "Halloween,"
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I wouldn't have a career.
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I was at a convention
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last year
and there was a woman.
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She had her daughter with her
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and she was shaking
and crying
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and -- and she said,
"This is Jamie.
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This is Jamie."
And I was like "Hi, Jamie."
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And she's like "No,
I named her after you."
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And I took a moment and I said,
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"You do realize that I...
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killed my...
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mother in the movie, right?"
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Like, I mean,
it's scary to watch.
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When "Halloween 4" comes on,
I'm still glued to the screen.
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It's just incredibly terrifying.
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What scene,
in any of the series,
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stayed with you?
I'm all over this. All right.
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-Go ahead.
-So, the opening
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of "Halloween 4,"
I think,
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is the best opening of any
Hm.
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slasher franchise, ever.
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From the shots of farmland
and that autumn coloring,
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that is Halloween,
the holiday.
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And then, when they're
taking him on the --
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the gurney, and that
first kill is so simple.
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It's just a thumb in the head.
Aaaaah!
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No!
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But it was suddenly violent
and it was gory
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and it seemed painful,
and that was everything.
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If you can evoke
that kind of feeling
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and then just deliver
like that,
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and it --
it's just perfect.
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"Halloween," 300 grand,
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basically, you know.
Mm-hmm.
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Carpenter composes
the score
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in three days or something,
uses a mask
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that he just bought
of William Shatner.
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Cost like a dollar
to do.
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Do you know the story
of why William Shatner?
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Like I don't know.
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They just wanted
something plain.
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I think it was between
like a clown mask
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that they found and
a William Shatner mask
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and they were like
"Uh..."
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They bought it
at the store.
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There were --
"Star Trek" masks were out
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and they just painted it
white, and that was it.
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I guess I owe the success of
"Halloween" to William Shatner.
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The Michael Myers mask
is so iconic.
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They chose it because
it's William Shatner,
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he had neutral features,
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and they ended up having
this happy accident
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where they made a really
iconic mask for nothing.
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So we thought
it'd be really fun
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if we could try to do that
again today on the show
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with a whole bunch
of different masks.
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I wanted to see if you
guys can can recognize
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who these masks are
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and if they're
actually terrifying.
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All right, so, let's go
with this guy first.
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What we do we think?
259
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I'm gonna go with Lady Gaga.
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-Oh.
-Lady Gaga?
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Terrifying, or just
kind of lame?
262
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Both: Kinda lame.
Kind of lame?
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This is...
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David Bowie?!
Ugh!
265
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Wow!
266
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How 'bout this one?
267
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-Hillary Clinton.
-Hillary Clinton.
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And do we think...?
269
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-Like...
-It's the teeth.
270
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I mean, this might
be terrifying.
271
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It is, in fact,
Hillary Clinton.
272
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So, let's go ahead
with this one next.
273
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Ohh! Man.
274
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-I don't know.
-I don't know,
275
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but it's not scary.
Both: Not scary.
276
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Bernie Sanders?
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Both: Bernie Sanders.
And this one?
278
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-Adam: The Rock.
-It's the eyebrow.
279
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You can tell
from the eyebrow.
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Terrifying, or...?
281
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I would make him the lead
of every movie.
282
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The lead
of every movie.
283
00:11:32,256 --> 00:11:33,646
-Yeah.
-It is...
284
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The Rock. So you guys
285
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could both smell
what he was cooking.
286
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-Yep.
-Yes.
287
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-What do we think?
-It looks almost close
288
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to the Myers mask.
289
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It's not 'cause of those ears.
Yeah.
290
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But this might be
on the creepy side.
291
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Who is this?
292
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John Cena.
293
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John Cena?
294
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-Wow! Okay.
-Well, Mr. Cena...
295
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you are, indeed,
terrifying.
296
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The next one.
So, what do we think
297
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of this guy?
Adam: Gene Simmons? Uh, wait.
298
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I have no idea who that is.
I don't, either.
299
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It is kind of scary,
though.
300
00:12:00,502 --> 00:12:02,072
But it would need
different hair.
301
00:12:02,112 --> 00:12:04,162
The hair's a little too fun.
It's like a kids' party.
302
00:12:04,201 --> 00:12:05,381
Like a horrible kids' party.
Little too wacky.
303
00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:06,990
-Yeah.
-All right.
304
00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:07,990
Let's see who that is.
Adam: Let's see who it is.
305
00:12:08,031 --> 00:12:10,081
Giuliani! Okay.
306
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Danielle: Aww.
Well, I think Hillary
307
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was pretty scary. But --
308
00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:14,909
-John Cena's the scariest.
-John Cena's the scariest.
309
00:12:14,951 --> 00:12:16,871
Mr. Cena,
you win this round.
310
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I'm gonna go as him
for Halloween.
311
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This feels oddly
comfortable and...
312
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familiar.
313
00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:28,441
If you'll excuse me.
314
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Did she just leave us?
315
00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,193
Yeah, she probably --
she probably just left.
316
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She's an icon. She can do
whatever she wants.
317
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Well, speaking of icons,
let's check out
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some iconic moments
from the franchise.
319
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Cute, Bob.
Real cute.
320
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Clearly,
we love this one.
321
00:12:48,724 --> 00:12:50,164
This one's
very influential.
322
00:12:50,204 --> 00:12:52,034
This is the perfect
example of tension.
323
00:12:52,075 --> 00:12:56,165
Yeah, it's a great exercise
in trusting your audience.
324
00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:59,740
The camera isn't moving around
or trying to sell you,
325
00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:01,739
"You're scared"
or "This is suspenseful."
326
00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:04,961
It's literally just a shape
in a doorway, doing nothing.
327
00:13:05,001 --> 00:13:07,611
Yet, the longer this goes on,
328
00:13:07,656 --> 00:13:09,346
you're just building
and building
329
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and waiting for that release.
330
00:13:11,442 --> 00:13:13,442
This is also sort of
the beginning of,
331
00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:16,138
"If you have sex in
a horror movie, you will die."
332
00:13:16,186 --> 00:13:17,406
Yeah, absolutely.
333
00:13:17,448 --> 00:13:19,098
Uhh. Uhhhh.
334
00:13:23,411 --> 00:13:25,281
So, this scene is great.
335
00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:27,586
In the first one,
we got to see that you can
336
00:13:27,632 --> 00:13:30,422
knock the killer down
or shoot him,
337
00:13:30,461 --> 00:13:31,991
but he'll get back up.
338
00:13:32,028 --> 00:13:34,938
But now, I mean, literally,
take out his eyes --
339
00:13:34,988 --> 00:13:38,028
like he's full-on
supernatural at this point.
340
00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:42,778
But he's also acting more human
than we've seen him act.
341
00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:44,522
He's signifying pain
Ah!
342
00:13:44,562 --> 00:13:46,132
and he can't see.
343
00:13:46,173 --> 00:13:47,743
It was a great way
to sort of humanize him
344
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before killing him
for good, supposedly.
345
00:13:55,617 --> 00:13:57,967
All right.
"Halloween 4."
346
00:13:58,011 --> 00:13:59,881
Now, there -- there's
so much to this scene.
347
00:13:59,926 --> 00:14:02,016
I mean, look, it's an homage
to the very beginning
348
00:14:02,058 --> 00:14:06,018
of the original,
and it was shocking at the time.
349
00:14:06,062 --> 00:14:07,982
The fact that little Jamie Lloyd
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
350
00:14:08,021 --> 00:14:09,891
goes and stabs her own mother
351
00:14:09,936 --> 00:14:11,886
and her just standing there,
covered in blood,
352
00:14:11,938 --> 00:14:13,768
I mean, that is what made
353
00:14:13,809 --> 00:14:15,029
Danielle timeless.
No!
354
00:14:15,071 --> 00:14:16,291
No!
And the way Loomis is just
355
00:14:16,333 --> 00:14:17,333
yelling, "No!
356
00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:19,208
No, no, no, no!"
357
00:14:19,249 --> 00:14:20,689
It's just -- Love it.
358
00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:21,729
It's perfect.
359
00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:28,043
Another great one
from "Halloween."
360
00:14:28,084 --> 00:14:29,834
The impalement.
361
00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:34,089
So, what made this so memorable:
i-it's not the death scene.
362
00:14:34,134 --> 00:14:37,054
It's Michael Myers's
reaction after,
363
00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:39,103
the way he admires
his work, almost.
364
00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:42,359
He sticks this dude to the wall
with a butcher knife
365
00:14:42,403 --> 00:14:44,623
and then like slowly cocks
his head to the side,
366
00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:45,966
like looking at it.
367
00:14:46,015 --> 00:14:48,235
You learn more about him
through that head nod
368
00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:49,448
than anything else.
369
00:14:51,455 --> 00:14:52,935
The incredible reveal.
370
00:14:52,979 --> 00:14:54,499
"Halloween,"
the original.
371
00:14:54,545 --> 00:14:55,845
This is one
of the first films
372
00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,845
where the dead villain
actually gets back up.
373
00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,807
Yeah, the composition of that
shot of him slowly rising up,
374
00:15:00,856 --> 00:15:02,676
uh, is fantastic.
375
00:15:02,727 --> 00:15:04,247
But the fact that
the mask came off
376
00:15:04,294 --> 00:15:06,914
and you saw a real man.
377
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:08,209
And he's a handsome
guy, too --
378
00:15:08,255 --> 00:15:09,335
that's the weirdest
thing about it.
379
00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:10,906
It's like
he's not maimed.
380
00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:12,523
He's not like an alien.
381
00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:15,263
He's just a handsome young
man on a killing spree.
382
00:15:15,305 --> 00:15:16,565
You're right.
He's not deformed.
383
00:15:16,611 --> 00:15:17,961
He's not a monster.
384
00:15:18,004 --> 00:15:19,884
He's -- He's the soccer
coach next door.
385
00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:22,309
He's your kid's --
your kid's teacher.
386
00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:25,656
It's time. It's time.
387
00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:27,667
Here is "Halloween III."
388
00:15:27,709 --> 00:15:30,539
One of themost underrated
movies of all times.
389
00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,021
And the -- the -- the song,
390
00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:33,671
and all it is is
"London Bridge Is Falling Down."
391
00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:35,055
-Yeah.
-It's so simple.
392
00:15:35,108 --> 00:15:36,628
Silver Shamrock masks.
393
00:15:36,674 --> 00:15:38,334
Gather 'round your TV set.
394
00:15:38,372 --> 00:15:41,512
Man, th-this death,
and that it was as child,
395
00:15:41,549 --> 00:15:43,289
-Yeah.
-in front of his parents.
396
00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:47,733
What a batshit insane
third movie for the sequel.
397
00:15:47,772 --> 00:15:50,042
Just a-a batshit movie
in general.
398
00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:51,649
-Aaaaaaaaaaaaah!
-And just have it be this.
399
00:15:51,689 --> 00:15:53,169
It's just brutal.
Man, that stupid song's
400
00:15:53,213 --> 00:15:54,693
gonna be stuck in my head
forever now.
401
00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:56,386
♪ Eight more days
402
00:15:56,433 --> 00:15:58,003
♪ 'til Halloween,
Halloween ♪
403
00:15:59,132 --> 00:16:00,352
Oh!
404
00:16:08,837 --> 00:16:11,007
So, while we deal
with the paperwork
405
00:16:11,057 --> 00:16:12,057
on that...
Whoa.
406
00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:16,407
...let's talk to Jim Ojala
about decapitations.
407
00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:24,113
Yes, absolutely.
408
00:16:24,157 --> 00:16:25,807
When you do a decapitation,
sometimes the head
409
00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:27,814
wants to fall off
and it's really cumbersome
410
00:16:27,856 --> 00:16:30,336
and a big pain in the ass,
so what we do is
411
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:33,560
we put a high-powered magnet
in the neck stump
412
00:16:33,601 --> 00:16:35,731
andin the stump
of the head.
413
00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:38,077
And -- boom -- it clicks on
and it holds in place.
414
00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:39,607
-Wow. That's crazy.
-So no fuckin' around.
415
00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,000
-Yeah, that's insane.
-Yeah.
416
00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:42,783
Jim:
We've got a silicone skin.
417
00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:46,267
We've got a nice mold
of our unfortunate crew member.
418
00:16:46,309 --> 00:16:52,319
And then we can cut right
through his skin here.
419
00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:53,579
Is this what you do
for your front porch
420
00:16:53,621 --> 00:16:54,971
for Halloween every year?
421
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,364
Yes. I can't wait.
422
00:16:56,406 --> 00:16:57,756
That's -- I'm keeping
this guy for this.
423
00:16:57,799 --> 00:16:58,969
I thought I was cool,
giving out
424
00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:00,538
full-size candy bars.
Clearly, uh,
425
00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:01,894
-Hey.
-you've got me beat.
426
00:17:01,933 --> 00:17:03,373
Look at this.
Hand-punched hairwork.
427
00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:04,893
-Oh, my.
-This is hand-punched.
428
00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:06,366
Like we can cut right
through his follicles.
429
00:17:06,416 --> 00:17:08,236
And how long does something
like that take?
430
00:17:08,288 --> 00:17:11,068
This is usually like
a good week of work.
431
00:17:11,117 --> 00:17:12,897
And just like that,
you've destroyed it.
432
00:17:12,944 --> 00:17:14,424
Yes.
433
00:17:14,468 --> 00:17:16,908
And this isn't just some
foam-filled piece of crap.
434
00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,078
Like we're scalping this guy.
435
00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:20,075
Look at this.
436
00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:22,036
100% medically accurate.
437
00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,085
So, we got a hell
of a scalp here.
438
00:17:26,132 --> 00:17:27,612
And then...
439
00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:29,085
gets...
440
00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:30,745
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
441
00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:32,048
Now, did you make
that brain yourself?
442
00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:33,574
And that's what happens.
Yes, I did.
443
00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:35,177
Me and my beautiful crew did.
444
00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:39,968
We got a cast of a real person's
brain, a cadaver's brain.
445
00:17:40,015 --> 00:17:41,225
Boom.
Oh, my
446
00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:42,837
-That's that.
-God.
447
00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:45,977
And then,we can start
diggin' in.
448
00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:47,591
Let-- Let's see what else is --
what we got here.
449
00:17:47,631 --> 00:17:49,631
Like oh, we got --
happen to have a great melon --
450
00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:50,977
uh, melon baller here.
451
00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:53,156
Maybe we can get his --
452
00:17:53,202 --> 00:17:55,032
get his eye out.
453
00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:56,734
Ho-ly shit.
454
00:17:56,771 --> 00:17:57,991
-Oh, yeah.
-And that's a whole --
455
00:17:58,033 --> 00:17:59,773
Look at that.
You can squish it.
456
00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,467
Man, you did such
a good job with this.
457
00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:03,255
-Here, you want one, too?
-Yeah, I definitely do.
458
00:18:03,299 --> 00:18:04,559
Here, you want -- you want to --
you want to yank that eye out?
459
00:18:04,605 --> 00:18:06,125
I know.
This is so elaborate.
460
00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:07,742
It's like
"Friday the 13th III."
461
00:18:09,175 --> 00:18:12,305
-Whoa-oa! Like that.
-Adam: Exactly. Yes.
462
00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:13,882
And this is totally
edible, too, right?
463
00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:15,308
Oh, yeah, and you can squish
it and everything.
464
00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:16,565
It's beautiful.
It's got real veins,
465
00:18:16,617 --> 00:18:18,227
yeah.
Oh!
466
00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:19,531
This is seriously
incredible, though,
467
00:18:19,576 --> 00:18:21,356
because typically
the hardest thing --
468
00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:23,674
as we know, working with
practical effects --
469
00:18:23,711 --> 00:18:25,841
is you have to cut
around it
470
00:18:25,887 --> 00:18:27,147
all the time,
to sell it.
471
00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:28,853
Your angles are
really important.
472
00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:30,370
But you could
literally just
473
00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:31,723
completely dismember
this head,
474
00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:32,982
as we're seeing,
Yes.
475
00:18:33,024 --> 00:18:34,334
and it is all perfect.
476
00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:35,944
It comes down to reverse
engineering.
477
00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:38,944
You've got a mold
of the poor bastard's head,
478
00:18:38,987 --> 00:18:40,677
and you just do you skin layer,
479
00:18:40,728 --> 00:18:43,248
you do your fat layer,
you do your blood layer,
480
00:18:43,296 --> 00:18:45,856
and then you just back it up
with muscle tissue
481
00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,167
and all that shit.
Then, uh,
482
00:18:48,214 --> 00:18:50,044
let's see --
Yeah, let's see -- Lookit.
483
00:18:50,085 --> 00:18:52,905
Yeah, you can cut this -- can
cut this damn nose off, even.
484
00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:54,567
-Oh, my gosh!
-Yeah.
485
00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:56,611
-And what's in...? Ohh!
-Yeah. Look at this.
486
00:18:56,657 --> 00:19:00,007
Nasal cavity with full
cartilage accessory.
487
00:19:00,051 --> 00:19:01,491
This is the part where
488
00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:02,841
you tell us this is
actually a real head
489
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,530
and you murdered somebody.
490
00:19:03,577 --> 00:19:04,837
Yes, exactly.
491
00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:05,882
What do you make
the cartilage out of?
492
00:19:05,927 --> 00:19:07,187
You know what that is?
493
00:19:07,233 --> 00:19:08,363
Latex and cotton.
494
00:19:08,408 --> 00:19:10,448
What went wrong,
growing up,
495
00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:12,797
do you think, Jim?
496
00:19:12,847 --> 00:19:14,327
It happens.
497
00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,200
You gotta be careful
to cut around the mustache
498
00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:18,242
'cause that's a whole
nother custom piece.
499
00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:19,677
And so this
officially earns
500
00:19:19,723 --> 00:19:22,293
our X rating
for Shudder, right?
501
00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:23,675
Who wants to peel the --
Who wants to --
502
00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:24,987
-Oh, can I, please?
-You're the guest.
503
00:19:25,033 --> 00:19:26,123
Pull --
Pull that whole piece off.
504
00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:27,425
Oh, this is great.
Oh.
505
00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:28,560
-Look at that.
-I've always wanted...
506
00:19:28,602 --> 00:19:30,172
-Dude --
-I can't even tell
507
00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:31,742
the difference, right?
Mickey: Like it fits you.
508
00:19:31,779 --> 00:19:33,129
It fits you really well.
Does it?
509
00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:34,832
All right. Well,
now I'm distinguished.
510
00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:36,219
Another bonus of detail?
511
00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:37,572
Let's pry this guy's
skull apart.
512
00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:38,571
What do you got in there?
513
00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:40,002
-A tongue!
-A tongue!
514
00:19:40,048 --> 00:19:42,088
-Oh, my --
-Look at that.
515
00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:44,397
-What else we have in here?
-Now, Jim, this is incredibly,
516
00:19:44,444 --> 00:19:45,534
insanely elaborate.
How much
517
00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:46,965
does this
whole guy cost?
518
00:19:47,011 --> 00:19:48,751
More than the budget
of my last three films.
519
00:19:48,796 --> 00:19:51,576
This is -- This is -- One of the
big things is it's just time.
520
00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:52,965
-Yeah.
-You know, this is like
521
00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:54,407
three people working
for days and days.
522
00:19:54,454 --> 00:19:56,334
Oh, God.
So, you know,
523
00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:57,589
you only get like --
524
00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:58,851
like one real
shot of this.
525
00:19:58,893 --> 00:20:00,243
This is the money-shot
gore, I think.
526
00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:02,806
-Yeah.
-Holy shit, Jim.
527
00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:05,253
Adam, you're like the master
of gore in film,
528
00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:07,681
so have you ever done
something similar to this,
529
00:20:07,728 --> 00:20:09,028
th--this level
of detail?
530
00:20:09,077 --> 00:20:10,427
You know, it's funny
'cause you always
531
00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:12,520
just set it up
to the shot.
532
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,259
So there's never
been a reason
533
00:20:15,301 --> 00:20:17,781
to have something
so elaborate
534
00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,345
that you're gonna do
as a oner,
535
00:20:19,392 --> 00:20:20,522
although now I'm gettin'
a lot of ideas.
536
00:20:20,567 --> 00:20:21,737
-Right.
-Yeah.
537
00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:23,475
I have all the respect
in the world
538
00:20:23,526 --> 00:20:25,486
for what you and your
team do because,
539
00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:28,918
for an effect that usually
would happen in a snap,
540
00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:30,356
you guys spend months,
541
00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,363
and then you just
watch it all fall apart.
542
00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:34,055
Mickey: Yeah.
But
543
00:20:34,102 --> 00:20:35,232
Jim: There's this pile of poop.
it is so worth it.
544
00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:36,537
Look at this!
Yes.
545
00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:37,983
It's so worth it.
It's so detailed.
546
00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:39,849
It's thousands of dollars,
days and days of work.
547
00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,890
Is there anything that we
can do with this, you know,
548
00:20:41,936 --> 00:20:43,626
once the scene's done,
once it's out?
549
00:20:43,677 --> 00:20:45,587
What if we did...?
550
00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:48,285
Just -- Just stick with me.
551
00:20:48,334 --> 00:20:50,424
What if we did
552
00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:53,686
a human...
Ahhh.
553
00:20:53,730 --> 00:20:54,560
Jack-o'-lantern?
554
00:20:54,601 --> 00:20:56,471
Ohh, shit.
555
00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:57,296
Right?
556
00:20:57,343 --> 00:20:58,653
Is that...?
557
00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:00,042
Perfect for Halloween.
558
00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,264
Right?
Yeah.
559
00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:03,263
I'm traumatized.
I'm terrified.
560
00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:04,565
Pop it wherever
you want to.
561
00:21:04,611 --> 00:21:06,091
Oh, come on.
Do me next, do me next.
562
00:21:16,797 --> 00:21:19,017
Mickey:
The face of horror
is often occluded.
563
00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:21,580
We think Voorhees,
we think Jigsaw,
564
00:21:21,628 --> 00:21:23,108
we think Ghostface,
565
00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,111
but, most of all,
we think of
566
00:21:25,153 --> 00:21:27,333
one Mr. Michael Myers.
567
00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:28,203
Bottom line?
568
00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:30,553
Masks are fuckin' creepy.
569
00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:31,943
And here to talk about why
570
00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:35,076
is "Halloween" franchise
expert Sean Clark.
571
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,379
-Hello, sir. How you doing?
-Sir, how are you today?
572
00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:38,375
-Awesome.
-So, as a expert of masks,
573
00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:40,207
why do you think,
on a basic human level,
574
00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:41,425
we're just
terrified of 'em?
575
00:21:41,474 --> 00:21:42,914
Why do they
always show up
576
00:21:42,953 --> 00:21:44,693
in so many fuckin'
horror movies?
577
00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:47,218
I think it's just the
unknown, you know?
578
00:21:47,262 --> 00:21:48,702
Not knowing
what's behind the mask.
579
00:21:48,742 --> 00:21:50,052
That's what's scary.
580
00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:53,271
Why is his mask
in particular so iconic?
581
00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,272
Expressionless, quiet.
582
00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:56,714
You know, they --
they described him
583
00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,360
as a great white shark,
you know?
584
00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:00,674
He seems like
he needs that mask.
585
00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,840
-Mm-hmm.
-You know, he was killing
586
00:22:02,886 --> 00:22:05,976
Laurie,
and then he stops and --
587
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:07,410
"I have to put it
right back on."
588
00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:09,326
You know what I mean?
Like "I need this."
589
00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:11,161
Right. So it's kind of like
"The Phantom of the Opera,"
590
00:22:11,199 --> 00:22:12,549
too, almost like
a reverse of that.
591
00:22:12,592 --> 00:22:14,862
'Cause everyone gasps when
he takes his mask off.
592
00:22:14,898 --> 00:22:16,548
Yeah, I think
that he was hoping
593
00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:19,896
the audience would expect
that sort of a reveal,
594
00:22:19,947 --> 00:22:22,247
like we saw with Jason
so many times,
595
00:22:22,297 --> 00:22:23,727
-Yeah. Right.
-this horrific face.
596
00:22:23,777 --> 00:22:26,557
And it wasn't.
It was just this plain guy.
597
00:22:26,606 --> 00:22:29,476
I guess that almost seems
more frightening,
598
00:22:29,522 --> 00:22:31,182
-Yeah.
-that it could be anybody.
599
00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:33,611
Hello?
600
00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:35,046
Let's talk
about the origins
601
00:22:35,092 --> 00:22:37,012
of the entire thing.
602
00:22:38,835 --> 00:22:41,445
I guess it would start
at Don Post Studios.
603
00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:46,500
So this here, actually,
is the William Shatner life mask
604
00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:48,409
that Bill Malone used
605
00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:51,984
to make the William Shatner/
Captain Kirk mask
606
00:22:52,022 --> 00:22:53,632
for Don Post Studios.
607
00:22:53,676 --> 00:22:55,766
You can actually already see
that's creepy as it is.
608
00:22:55,809 --> 00:22:57,549
It kind of looks like
origins of drama,
609
00:22:57,593 --> 00:22:58,943
the Greek chorus mask,
610
00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:01,986
and it's so funny to see
this kind of influence
611
00:23:02,032 --> 00:23:04,382
an entire culture
of horror films.
612
00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:08,167
So, what they did is
613
00:23:08,212 --> 00:23:10,132
Tommy Lee Wallace
took this mask here.
614
00:23:10,171 --> 00:23:14,091
He took the eyebrows off,
he took the sideburns off,
615
00:23:14,131 --> 00:23:17,271
he cut the eyes wider,
and he spray-painted it white,
616
00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:19,048
literally, with spray paint.
617
00:23:19,093 --> 00:23:22,793
And then he took streaks
and tips, brown, and --
618
00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,966
and just ran it through the hair
and darkened the hair.
619
00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:28,763
And -- boom -- he had this.
620
00:23:28,798 --> 00:23:30,928
And when he walked
in the room wearing this,
621
00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,374
when they did the screen tests,
622
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,411
I guess everybody
just got chills.
623
00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:35,846
And I can see why 'cause
624
00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:37,462
it's fuckin' creepy as shit.
Yeah.
625
00:23:37,503 --> 00:23:39,373
-It's absolutely terrifying.
-Mm-hmm.
626
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:40,848
So, there are technically,
in the first one,
627
00:23:40,897 --> 00:23:42,547
three Michael Myers
actors?
628
00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:44,205
Well, if you want
to get technical,
629
00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:46,468
seven people played
Michael Myers in the first film.
630
00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:49,432
Nick Castle did probably
95% of the work.
631
00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:52,211
But Tommy Lee Wallace, who was
the production designer,
632
00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:54,256
pretty much anytime
Michael Myers broke something,
633
00:23:54,302 --> 00:23:56,172
he put on the costume 'cause,
634
00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:57,777
being the art director,
he knew how
635
00:23:57,827 --> 00:23:59,257
to break things, you know?
Right.
636
00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:01,527
There was one scene
with a dog trainer
637
00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:04,180
that wore the costume when
he kills the German shepherd.
638
00:24:04,225 --> 00:24:05,835
Tony Moran played the unmasked.
639
00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:07,489
He's in it for like
eight seconds,
640
00:24:07,533 --> 00:24:08,933
but he's the face of Michael.
641
00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:12,059
Strangely enough,
he was Erin Moran's brother,
642
00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:13,502
who was Joanie on
"Happy Days."
643
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:14,579
-Okay.
-Yeah.
644
00:24:14,627 --> 00:24:16,537
Jim Windburn was a stunt man
645
00:24:16,585 --> 00:24:18,015
who took the fall.
646
00:24:18,065 --> 00:24:19,495
He's literally in one scene
647
00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:21,235
of his ass coming
towards the camera.
648
00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:22,975
Will Sandin played
young Michael Myers.
649
00:24:23,026 --> 00:24:24,636
And then Debra Hill
did one scene.
650
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,770
She was the producer.
651
00:24:25,812 --> 00:24:27,642
She was standing
across the street
652
00:24:27,683 --> 00:24:29,213
when Tommy Doyle
looks out the window
653
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:30,770
and sees the silhouette
in front of the house?
654
00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:32,777
Yeah. And is it true
that Debra Hill is also
655
00:24:32,819 --> 00:24:34,389
the hand in that
opening long take?
656
00:24:34,429 --> 00:24:35,949
Exactly. She was the hands
657
00:24:35,996 --> 00:24:37,866
of young Michael
grabbing the knife
658
00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,351
and stabbing Judith.
659
00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:41,040
Ohhh!
Aah!
660
00:24:41,088 --> 00:24:43,258
Now, this is
the "Part II" mask.
661
00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:44,657
It's the same mask.
662
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,050
This one looks
more weathered because,
663
00:24:47,094 --> 00:24:48,844
since it was
spray-paint and stuff,
664
00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:50,748
I mean, stuff would
stick to it, and --
665
00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:53,673
and it would get dirty
easily, and, um, it --
666
00:24:53,709 --> 00:24:55,279
it just gave it
a whole different look
667
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,189
by the time
it got to "Part II."
668
00:24:57,234 --> 00:24:59,674
And, actually, in my opinion,
this version's creepier.
669
00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:01,535
I do agree. I think
the second movie
670
00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:03,147
has a scarier-
looking mask.
671
00:25:03,197 --> 00:25:05,417
Yeah. He played it
differently, too.
672
00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:07,290
He had a real robot
kind of vibe,
673
00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:08,861
and I always
found that creepy.
674
00:25:08,898 --> 00:25:10,378
Well, the robot vibe
actually kind of
675
00:25:10,421 --> 00:25:11,681
leads us
into "Part III."
676
00:25:11,727 --> 00:25:13,157
If you want to talk
about robots...
677
00:25:13,207 --> 00:25:15,467
Both: Yes.
This was actually screen-used.
678
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,214
The pumpkin ended up
being the one that, uh,
679
00:25:17,254 --> 00:25:19,264
little Buddy
met his demise wearing.
680
00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:27,571
Now, in "Part 4," they thought,
"Well, let's get a guy
681
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:30,093
from Don Post Studios
to convert a mask for us."
682
00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:33,837
And he took what they say
was an original Shatner
683
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,750
and did his conversion to it
684
00:25:35,795 --> 00:25:37,095
and it ended up
looking like this.
685
00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:38,934
Now, this
686
00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:40,712
didn't really go over well.
687
00:25:40,756 --> 00:25:42,716
Not my favorite,
not a fan favorite.
688
00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:44,588
But then it gets really weird,
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
689
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:46,280
-when we get to "Part 5."
-How so?
690
00:25:49,852 --> 00:25:51,942
This was the version
they started with,
691
00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:53,985
and the director
didn't like the nose
692
00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:55,680
and he wanted it
a little bit bigger.
693
00:25:55,728 --> 00:25:59,598
Now, this is the nose extension
that they added to it.
694
00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:01,685
You can see the seam lines.
Yeah.
695
00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:04,134
So it gave the mask
a very different look here.
696
00:26:04,171 --> 00:26:05,831
Uh, but there was a scene
in the film
697
00:26:05,868 --> 00:26:08,608
where he puts on
someone else's mask.
698
00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:11,614
And that's this one here,
which is actually
699
00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:13,827
kind of referred
to fans as The Brute.
700
00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:17,176
It's basically a German mask
from some German company.
701
00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:19,317
They literally bought it
off a store shelf
702
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:20,670
and put it on the guy.
703
00:26:20,709 --> 00:26:22,619
I just love
barbaric men.
704
00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:25,628
Now, they brought in effects
artist John Carl Buechler
705
00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:27,281
to do the mask for
"Halloween 6."
706
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:32,240
It's got a cool, evil,
rough look to it.
707
00:26:32,286 --> 00:26:33,976
I thought they were
starting to get it right
708
00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:36,117
when they got to this mask,
as far as I thought.
709
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,809
Then, when they went on
to do "Halloween H20"...
710
00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,818
...they decided to bring
John Carl Buechler back
711
00:26:43,863 --> 00:26:45,653
and have him make
the mask for that film,
712
00:26:45,691 --> 00:26:48,651
which, this is actually the
screen-used version right here.
713
00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:50,224
-Oh, wow.
-So this was used
714
00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:52,130
in the opening scene,
715
00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:55,175
where he goes in the house
and kills the nurse.
716
00:26:55,222 --> 00:26:57,962
So, they'd shot that scene
with this mask,
717
00:26:58,007 --> 00:27:00,837
but Steve Miner, the director,
when he saw the footage,
718
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,270
he didn't like the mask.
719
00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:04,056
He wanted it changed
and wanted it to be
720
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,280
completely plain and blank.
721
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,450
So they brought in this version.
722
00:27:09,497 --> 00:27:11,667
So, they shot the entire
movie with this.
723
00:27:11,717 --> 00:27:16,977
Then, apparently, an executive
at Dimension saw the footage
724
00:27:17,026 --> 00:27:19,116
and stood up in the middle
of the theater and said,
725
00:27:19,159 --> 00:27:21,069
"That's not fucking
Michael Myers.
726
00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:23,467
What the fuck is that?"
and like went off.
727
00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:25,171
He went to Stan Winston
Studios and said,
728
00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:27,728
"Hey, we need a Michael Myers
mask. We need it fast."
729
00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:30,556
So he had one of his guys
sculpt this mask.
730
00:27:30,605 --> 00:27:31,815
And what they did
is they went back
731
00:27:31,867 --> 00:27:34,387
and reshot all the close-ups.
732
00:27:34,435 --> 00:27:37,475
So, if you look closely
in the film, you'll notice,
733
00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:39,825
when Michael's coming,
it's this mask.
734
00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:41,525
But then, when he gets close,
735
00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,492
it's this mask.
It's -- Oh, my God.
736
00:27:43,531 --> 00:27:44,841
And, once you notice that,
737
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,490
it really starts
to get annoying.
738
00:27:46,534 --> 00:27:49,714
So that's the movie that had
the most masks in it.
739
00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:51,665
Well, now let's get on
to "Resurrection."
740
00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,976
I think they got so tired
741
00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:02,505
with these studios
not being able to get it right
742
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:03,770
that they thought,
"You know right?
743
00:28:03,812 --> 00:28:06,342
Let's hire a mask
company to make it."
744
00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:09,430
So they got Cinema Secrets
to make the mask.
745
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:13,040
They literally took this mask
and tried to replicate it.
746
00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:16,172
So if you look, the sculpture
is very similar,
747
00:28:16,216 --> 00:28:17,866
but the problem
with Cinema Secrets was
748
00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,743
it just looks like
a store-bought mask.
749
00:28:20,786 --> 00:28:22,436
It's just --
It's just overdone.
750
00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:23,753
-Yeah, totally.
-That's the problem.
751
00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:26,009
It's too polished.
It's too shiny.
752
00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:27,402
-I mean, they --
-It's very clean-cut
753
00:28:27,444 --> 00:28:29,194
-Yeah.
-around the scalp, too.
754
00:28:29,229 --> 00:28:31,059
I mean, he looks like
he went to a salon.
755
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,280
I mean -- You know what I mean?
756
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:33,489
-Yeah.
-So, we got to get into
757
00:28:33,537 --> 00:28:35,407
the reboot now.
Which,
758
00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,632
I don't know about you.
Big fan.
759
00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,936
This one goes through
several kind of changes.
760
00:28:42,982 --> 00:28:45,772
This is the sort of
rotted version that you --
761
00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:47,031
he finds in the floorboards.
Yeah.
762
00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:48,643
I-I like the sculpture.
763
00:28:48,683 --> 00:28:50,213
I think it's cool.
It looks angry.
764
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:52,640
It's got a --
It's got a cool vibe to it.
765
00:28:52,687 --> 00:28:55,467
So, this was the 2007 version.
766
00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:58,206
And then, when he came out
and did "Halloween II"...
767
00:29:00,347 --> 00:29:04,217
...it was even more distressed
and, you know, falling apart.
768
00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:05,834
And -- And it goes through
different stages
769
00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:08,094
in "Halloween II," as well.
Like this whole part
770
00:29:08,137 --> 00:29:09,657
is cut away at one point.
771
00:29:09,704 --> 00:29:12,754
But this is kind of stage 1
of "Halloween II."
772
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,844
As a "Halloween"
franchise expert,
773
00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:17,673
what do you hope for
in the re-reboot,
774
00:29:17,712 --> 00:29:20,322
as far as masks go,
for Michael Myers?
775
00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:23,667
Gotta go with the original
Don Post Captain Kirk, you know?
776
00:29:23,718 --> 00:29:24,978
-Yeah.
-I mean, this --
777
00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:26,294
this is
the definitive look.
778
00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:27,769
This is
what the fans want.
779
00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:30,029
Sir, thank you somuch
for coming today.
780
00:29:30,072 --> 00:29:32,422
This is every horror
fan's dream.
781
00:29:32,466 --> 00:29:33,766
I want to thank you again
782
00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:35,425
for all that knowledge.
Sean Clark.
783
00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:37,509
I love the "Halloween" series.
784
00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:39,868
I could easily watch
all 10 movies in one night.
785
00:29:39,908 --> 00:29:41,648
But what if you're
thirsting for more?
786
00:29:47,742 --> 00:29:49,442
10 movies down,
787
00:29:49,483 --> 00:29:51,273
and I'm hungry for more
this Halloween season.
788
00:29:51,311 --> 00:29:52,141
Isn't that great?
789
00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:53,661
Let's get into some real
790
00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,234
All Hallow's heavy hitters.
791
00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:56,661
Lay 'em on me.
All right.
792
00:29:56,707 --> 00:29:59,707
Up first, we got two
Shudder exclusives:
793
00:29:59,754 --> 00:30:02,104
"Spookers"
and "Found Footage 3D."
794
00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,018
"Spookers" is from New Zealand
795
00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:06,333
and it's about the largest
haunted attraction there.
796
00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:09,939
Really gets into who owns it,
who works there,
797
00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:11,902
who attends, and why.
798
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:13,250
Aah!
799
00:30:14,508 --> 00:30:16,508
-Aah!
-If you love the season,
800
00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:18,033
this movie loves you.
801
00:30:18,077 --> 00:30:19,377
That's great.
I love that.
802
00:30:19,426 --> 00:30:20,596
"Found Footage 3D."
803
00:30:20,644 --> 00:30:22,564
The first found-footage
804
00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:25,083
horror movie
805
00:30:25,127 --> 00:30:26,997
in 3D.
Clever, meta.
806
00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:28,352
It's a bit like "Scream,"
807
00:30:28,391 --> 00:30:29,961
but for found-footage movies.
Okay.
808
00:30:30,002 --> 00:30:33,182
It's about a crew making
a found-footage movie in 3D.
809
00:30:33,222 --> 00:30:35,832
It all goes wrong because
there's a demon about.
810
00:30:35,877 --> 00:30:37,307
-Oh, shit.
-Aaaaaaaaah!
811
00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:41,136
It's superfunny;
it's supercool.
812
00:30:41,187 --> 00:30:43,487
It's a perfect,
perfect, October movie.
813
00:30:43,537 --> 00:30:44,667
And so can you watch it
814
00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,022
fully in 3D
on Shudder?
815
00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:47,761
Yes. you. can.
816
00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:49,152
-That's awesome.
-"Ghostwatch."
817
00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:50,625
This is like
an essential, dude.
818
00:30:50,674 --> 00:30:52,154
Have you ever heard of this?
I've never heard
819
00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:54,938
of "Ghostwatch."
What big eyes you have.
820
00:30:54,983 --> 00:30:56,383
This is a legend.
821
00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:58,199
It aired on Halloween 1992,
822
00:30:58,247 --> 00:30:59,637
on the BBC.
823
00:30:59,683 --> 00:31:01,603
We hope to show you,
for the first time,
824
00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:04,952
irrefutable proof that
ghosts really do exist.
825
00:31:04,993 --> 00:31:06,783
-Never aired again.
-Why?
826
00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:08,911
They aired it
as a real news broadcast,
827
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:11,174
as a live investigation
of a haunted house.
828
00:31:11,217 --> 00:31:13,257
It freaked the entire
country out.
829
00:31:13,306 --> 00:31:15,786
If you watch it today,
it's a hell of a lot of fun,
830
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:17,530
it's a hell of a lot of creepy,
831
00:31:17,571 --> 00:31:18,881
and you just gotta see it.
832
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,100
Sounds like they went
Orson Welles,
833
00:31:20,139 --> 00:31:21,229
"War of the Worlds"-
type vibe there.
834
00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:23,190
-100%.
-The definition of
835
00:31:23,229 --> 00:31:24,929
fake news, I guess.
836
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,320
Uh, what else do we got?
837
00:31:26,362 --> 00:31:27,802
We got
"Tales from the Darkside."
838
00:31:27,842 --> 00:31:29,452
They put toilet paper
in my trees.
839
00:31:29,496 --> 00:31:30,756
That's because
you didn't give 'em
840
00:31:30,801 --> 00:31:32,411
any Halloween candy.
841
00:31:32,455 --> 00:31:34,015
Oh, baby.
842
00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:36,846
This is everyone's favorite
'80s anthology series.
843
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,375
Created by, executive-produced
by, George A. Romero.
844
00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:42,029
You can watch every
episode on Shudder, but,
845
00:31:42,074 --> 00:31:44,384
two great Halloween ones,
including "Halloween Candy"
846
00:31:44,424 --> 00:31:47,564
and "Trick or Treat,"
written by Mr. Romero himself.
847
00:31:47,601 --> 00:31:48,951
That sounds awesome.
848
00:31:48,994 --> 00:31:51,214
Finally, "Murder Party."
849
00:31:51,257 --> 00:31:53,477
Welcome to your murder.
850
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Oh, shit.
Jeremy Saulnier's
851
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,220
first movie.
Exactly.
852
00:31:56,262 --> 00:31:57,612
It's a mean little horror comedy
853
00:31:57,654 --> 00:31:59,354
set on Halloween night
854
00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,785
and, uh, perfect if you got
a few hipsters in your life.
855
00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:02,882
Ugh. Who doesn't?
856
00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:08,930
Everybody dies.
857
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:10,620
Well, these are awesome.
I can't wait to watch.
858
00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:12,757
This is really gonna make
my Halloween incredible.
859
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,630
Thank you so much and
860
00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:16,761
Happy Halloween, bro.
Happy Halloween.
861
00:32:16,804 --> 00:32:17,894
Hey, check your apples.
862
00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:23,067
Children:
Trick or treat!
863
00:32:23,115 --> 00:32:26,245
Well, that does it for this
episode of "The Core."
864
00:32:26,292 --> 00:32:27,772
I wanna thank Adam Green
865
00:32:27,815 --> 00:32:30,075
and Danielle Harris
again for...
866
00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:32,472
Wait a second.
867
00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:34,385
Fun size?
868
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:35,390
Fun size?!
869
00:32:35,431 --> 00:32:37,871
Fucking fun size?!
870
00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:39,262
Hold on a second.
871
00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,475
I got some business
to attend to.
872
00:32:54,102 --> 00:32:55,542
Adam: Oh, hey, Mickey.
Cool mask.
873
00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:57,152
Hey, Green,
you said full-size!
874
00:32:57,192 --> 00:32:58,672
-Aah!
-Don't try to run!
875
00:32:58,715 --> 00:32:59,845
Aah! Aah!
876
00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:01,810
Aah! Aah! Aah!
877
00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:03,329
Aaah! Aaah!
878
00:33:03,372 --> 00:33:05,162
Aah! Aah!
879
00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:14,042
Person:
He's trying to kill him!
880
00:33:16,211 --> 00:33:18,471
Trying to kill him!
881
00:33:19,823 --> 00:33:21,133
Aggh!
882
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,840
Aaaaah!
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