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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:43,695 --> 00:00:45,695 Did you get my beer? 2 00:00:49,701 --> 00:00:50,831 Cute, Bob. 3 00:00:50,876 --> 00:00:51,916 Real cute. 4 00:00:58,014 --> 00:00:59,494 See anything you like? 5 00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:04,459 What's the matter, can't I get your ghost, Bob? 6 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:12,287 All right, all right. Come on. Where's my beer?! 7 00:01:17,947 --> 00:01:19,857 You're weird. 8 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:22,465 I'm gonna call Mickey, 9 00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:25,217 see where Paul and Annie are. 10 00:01:26,695 --> 00:01:28,435 This is going nowhere. 11 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,270 Finally. 12 00:01:39,055 --> 00:01:40,355 Hello. 13 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:41,544 Ah! 14 00:01:41,579 --> 00:01:43,489 Ah! Ahhh! 15 00:01:43,538 --> 00:01:44,758 Ah! Agh! Hello? 16 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,760 -Ah! Ugh! -All right, Adam. 17 00:01:46,802 --> 00:01:48,022 First, I get your famous chewing, 18 00:01:48,064 --> 00:01:50,204 and now I get your famous squealing? 19 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,980 Agh! Ah! 20 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:53,594 Ah! Adam, are you all right? 21 00:01:53,635 --> 00:01:55,635 Aghhh! Ahhh! 22 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,770 Agh! Ah! 23 00:01:56,812 --> 00:01:58,252 Are you fooling around again? 24 00:01:58,292 --> 00:02:00,162 I'll kill you if this is a joke. 25 00:02:07,388 --> 00:02:10,038 Hello. 26 00:02:10,086 --> 00:02:11,646 Hello? 27 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:13,476 Welcome to "The Core." 28 00:02:15,222 --> 00:02:17,882 Hey, that's my line. 29 00:02:40,072 --> 00:02:41,382 John Carpenter's "Halloween" 30 00:02:41,422 --> 00:02:43,212 is the foundation for modern horror. 31 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:46,430 In fact, it spawned the entire idea of the slasher franchise. 32 00:02:47,819 --> 00:02:49,209 -Hah! -Aah! 33 00:02:49,256 --> 00:02:50,816 I'm Chucky! 34 00:02:50,866 --> 00:02:54,386 At the time it came out in 1978, "Grease" was the word. 35 00:02:54,435 --> 00:02:56,565 "Superman" ticket sales were up, up, and away. 36 00:02:56,611 --> 00:02:57,661 But then... 37 00:03:01,790 --> 00:03:03,310 ...a little flick about babysitters 38 00:03:03,357 --> 00:03:06,227 terrorized by a faceless killer in a dime-store mask 39 00:03:06,273 --> 00:03:10,323 suddenly slashed its way to the top of the box office. 40 00:03:10,364 --> 00:03:13,114 Not since "Psycho" had the American public been so excited 41 00:03:13,149 --> 00:03:15,849 by, well, a psycho. 42 00:03:15,891 --> 00:03:17,981 The torch that scream queen Janet Leigh held alit 43 00:03:18,023 --> 00:03:20,643 was passed to her daughter Jamie, 44 00:03:20,678 --> 00:03:23,068 who became the original final girl. 45 00:03:23,115 --> 00:03:25,335 John Carpenter took a film that nobody believed in, 46 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:28,729 set it to a simple piano melody, and, well, the rest is history. 47 00:03:32,037 --> 00:03:34,127 Without it, there's no "Friday the 13th," 48 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:36,870 there's no "Scream," there's no "Nightmare on Elm Street." 49 00:03:36,912 --> 00:03:38,442 So why is it so effective? 50 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:39,609 Let's find out. 51 00:03:55,757 --> 00:03:58,497 We have the perfect people here today to talk about "Halloween." 52 00:03:58,542 --> 00:04:00,372 She's the heir apparent to Michael Myers 53 00:04:00,414 --> 00:04:03,074 and the star of "Halloween 4," "5"... 54 00:04:03,112 --> 00:04:05,202 -Uncle. -...and Rob Zombie's remakes. 55 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:07,455 Ah-aah! 56 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:10,688 His entire body of work is a love letter to '80s slashers, 57 00:04:10,728 --> 00:04:11,988 none of which would be possible 58 00:04:12,034 --> 00:04:15,044 without the original "Halloween." 59 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,170 It's Adam Green and Danielle Harris. 60 00:04:17,213 --> 00:04:18,953 I just want to hear both of your thoughts 61 00:04:18,997 --> 00:04:22,167 on how significant the entire franchise was. 62 00:04:22,218 --> 00:04:24,178 When you think about how huge "Psycho" was... 63 00:04:25,874 --> 00:04:27,354 It captivated the world. 64 00:04:27,397 --> 00:04:29,047 And -- And then what? 65 00:04:29,094 --> 00:04:31,314 I think Michael Myers was really the answer to that. 66 00:04:31,358 --> 00:04:33,008 And what did they do with "Psycho"? 67 00:04:33,055 --> 00:04:35,485 Like after "Halloween" started franchise horror 68 00:04:35,536 --> 00:04:37,356 and "Friday the 13th," then we got "Psycho II." 69 00:04:37,407 --> 00:04:38,927 Psycho 70 00:04:38,974 --> 00:04:40,724 II. 71 00:04:40,758 --> 00:04:42,668 Nowadays, they're all franchise horror. 72 00:04:42,717 --> 00:04:44,717 But they're all looking for the next Michael Myers 73 00:04:44,762 --> 00:04:47,202 and no one's really quite accomplished that yet. 74 00:04:47,243 --> 00:04:48,333 -No one ever will. -I don't know why 75 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:49,505 that is, though. 76 00:04:49,550 --> 00:04:50,860 Because Michael Myers is the king. 77 00:04:50,899 --> 00:04:52,249 -'Cause he started it. -Yes. 78 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,512 You know, what's creepy about "Halloween" 79 00:04:53,554 --> 00:04:55,124 is this person could be anybody. 80 00:04:55,164 --> 00:04:56,474 Usually, someone in their family 81 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:58,123 kills them. It's not usually, Right. 82 00:04:58,167 --> 00:04:59,687 you know, the -- the -- the crazed guy next door, 83 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:01,344 -Absolutely. -which you don't really know. 84 00:05:03,999 --> 00:05:05,609 You're bringing up a really good point. 85 00:05:05,653 --> 00:05:08,053 "Halloween" was so frightening because no one knows why. 86 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:09,400 That is why it was so scary. 87 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:11,049 And you didn't need to know anything else. 88 00:05:11,093 --> 00:05:12,313 Michael got up, right? 89 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:13,915 You can't kill evil. Evil never dies. 90 00:05:13,965 --> 00:05:15,875 That's what's so terrifying. 91 00:05:15,924 --> 00:05:17,494 "Halloween" is the most iconic. 92 00:05:17,534 --> 00:05:19,064 I mean, that music. 93 00:05:19,101 --> 00:05:20,491 Everybody knows that music. 94 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:22,667 They all know what Michael Myers looks like. 95 00:05:22,713 --> 00:05:24,763 Even if they haven't seen the movie, they know that. 96 00:05:24,802 --> 00:05:27,242 And I think that movie is one of the most effective 97 00:05:27,283 --> 00:05:29,463 because they went in and it wasn't to set up 98 00:05:29,503 --> 00:05:32,243 "Halloween" I for "Halloween II." Danielle: Right. 99 00:05:32,288 --> 00:05:33,418 Originally, it wasn't going to be 100 00:05:33,463 --> 00:05:35,293 sequel after sequel after sequel. 101 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:38,375 Carpenter's original vision was to have the sequels 102 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:40,335 each be something different set on Halloween 103 00:05:40,383 --> 00:05:41,863 and they tried that with "Halloween III," 104 00:05:41,906 --> 00:05:43,516 Danielle: Mm-hmm. which, at first, was rejected. 105 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,260 And Carpenter's movie was not bloody. 106 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:48,001 It wasn't relying on gore, but the sequels were 107 00:05:48,043 --> 00:05:49,443 'cause that was the time. 108 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:50,919 Your imagination's always gonna be better 109 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,259 than whatever you see. Mickey: Totally. 110 00:05:52,308 --> 00:05:53,398 That's why you never wanna show gags, 111 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,090 unless they're reallygood. 112 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:57,047 I wonder if it -- if it's gonna make that -- that -- 113 00:05:57,095 --> 00:05:59,395 uh, that trip right back to where it had started. 114 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:01,096 'Cause it seems like nobody buys it anymore. 115 00:06:05,974 --> 00:06:07,454 Why do you think that we are so 116 00:06:07,497 --> 00:06:09,237 enamored with Laurie Strode? 117 00:06:09,281 --> 00:06:11,151 Why do you think that she's so significant? 118 00:06:11,196 --> 00:06:14,766 It was the, uh, first time that heroine, the final girl, 119 00:06:14,809 --> 00:06:16,639 really took over and beat the bad guy. 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,380 Mickey: Right. I mean, there's women sitting 121 00:06:18,421 --> 00:06:20,821 in the audience that -- that may have wanted 122 00:06:20,858 --> 00:06:23,428 to break free of whatever was happening in their life 123 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:24,780 -Yep. -And I think it was sort of 124 00:06:24,819 --> 00:06:26,649 a-a moment to feel like 125 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:28,480 "Oh, my God, I can -- I could be strong. 126 00:06:28,518 --> 00:06:29,688 I don't hate to hide. 127 00:06:29,737 --> 00:06:31,737 I don't have to depend on a man. 128 00:06:31,782 --> 00:06:36,312 I can rise above and -- and win at the end." 129 00:06:36,352 --> 00:06:37,752 She was the girl next door. 130 00:06:37,788 --> 00:06:39,268 I mean, she was the babysitter. 131 00:06:39,311 --> 00:06:40,881 Everyone relates to that. 132 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:42,312 Maybe there's girls like me that are in the audience, 133 00:06:42,358 --> 00:06:44,798 that are seeing those girls, and go like, 134 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:45,799 "I can do that, too. 135 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,410 I can get bad guy." 136 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:49,450 Woman: She's got a gun! 137 00:06:49,496 --> 00:06:52,106 I killed him. 138 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:54,370 Adam, please tell us about how "Halloween" influenced 139 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:56,814 your entire filmography, really, 140 00:06:56,851 --> 00:06:58,461 'cause "Hatchet" is clearly like 141 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:00,285 an homage to a lot of different slashers. 142 00:07:00,332 --> 00:07:01,902 Were you makin' the film, saying, 143 00:07:01,943 --> 00:07:04,343 "I want Victor Crowley to be as big as Michael Myers"? 144 00:07:04,380 --> 00:07:05,640 Was that the intention? 145 00:07:05,686 --> 00:07:07,166 Well, no. 146 00:07:07,209 --> 00:07:08,649 I mean, you -- 'cause you can't. 147 00:07:08,689 --> 00:07:10,389 -Yeah. -No one's ever going to make 148 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:12,300 a slasher movie like "Halloween" again. 149 00:07:12,344 --> 00:07:13,744 I mean, the fact that he made something 150 00:07:13,781 --> 00:07:16,701 that was so terrifying without needing gore -- 151 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:18,660 or really even violence, when you really think 152 00:07:18,699 --> 00:07:21,479 about it, but it was atmosphere and unknown. 153 00:07:21,528 --> 00:07:24,878 And it just -- I mean, it still works to this day. 154 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:32,276 Aaaaaaaaaaah! 155 00:07:32,321 --> 00:07:33,581 Danielle, obviously, you have 156 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:35,367 a filmography full of "Halloween." 157 00:07:35,411 --> 00:07:38,501 I want to talk about how the films influenced you. 158 00:07:38,545 --> 00:07:39,885 -Well, it really messed me up. -Yeah? How so? 159 00:07:39,937 --> 00:07:41,677 -It did, yeah. -Aah! 160 00:07:41,722 --> 00:07:43,252 Help me, please! Somebody! 161 00:07:43,288 --> 00:07:44,458 I have nightmares. 162 00:07:46,204 --> 00:07:47,344 It's really screwed up my life. 163 00:07:47,379 --> 00:07:48,769 Aaaaah! 164 00:07:49,947 --> 00:07:51,377 Ah! 165 00:07:51,427 --> 00:07:53,557 I'm just kidding. 166 00:07:53,603 --> 00:07:55,613 Um, I'm here.You're here. 167 00:07:55,649 --> 00:07:56,689 Fairly sane. 168 00:07:56,737 --> 00:07:57,997 Listen, I was 10, right? 169 00:07:58,042 --> 00:07:59,522 So I really had no idea, I think, 170 00:07:59,566 --> 00:08:00,916 what I was getting myself into. 171 00:08:00,958 --> 00:08:02,608 I was just, I think, superexcited to like 172 00:08:02,656 --> 00:08:04,476 go to Utah and make a movie. 173 00:08:04,527 --> 00:08:05,957 Well, the story with "The Shining" 174 00:08:06,007 --> 00:08:07,397 is that the little kid didn't even know that 175 00:08:07,443 --> 00:08:08,883 he was in a horror movie until the very end. 176 00:08:08,923 --> 00:08:10,193 Clearly, that doesn't sound the case with you. 177 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:11,358 No. 178 00:08:11,403 --> 00:08:12,933 No, I was excited. 179 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:14,020 -Yeah. -I mean, it was fun. 180 00:08:14,058 --> 00:08:15,838 Everyone on set makes sure 181 00:08:15,886 --> 00:08:17,446 that you are not scared 182 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:18,757 Mickey: Okay. and that you're having 183 00:08:18,802 --> 00:08:20,022 a good time. You know, you got Sure. 184 00:08:20,064 --> 00:08:21,544 a lot of aunts and uncles and people 185 00:08:21,588 --> 00:08:23,288 playing with you and -- That sounded horrible, 186 00:08:23,328 --> 00:08:25,548 but, you know, just saying. 187 00:08:25,592 --> 00:08:27,292 You know what I mean. 188 00:08:27,332 --> 00:08:29,292 The only scene they wouldn't let me be in, in that movie, 189 00:08:29,334 --> 00:08:31,694 was in the car when he gets his head pulled off. 190 00:08:32,816 --> 00:08:34,816 -Aaaaaaah! -Arggggggghhh! 191 00:08:34,862 --> 00:08:36,212 Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! 192 00:08:36,254 --> 00:08:38,134 They'd stick me on an 18-foot roof and -- 193 00:08:38,169 --> 00:08:40,559 with no harness and throw me -- you know, make me slide down 194 00:08:40,607 --> 00:08:42,777 and do all kinds of other horrible things, 195 00:08:42,826 --> 00:08:44,866 but that was the one they wouldn't let me do. 196 00:08:44,915 --> 00:08:46,565 I had a great experience. 197 00:08:46,613 --> 00:08:49,143 I think, if it weren't for "Halloween," 198 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:50,440 I wouldn't have a career. 199 00:08:50,486 --> 00:08:51,706 I was at a convention 200 00:08:51,748 --> 00:08:53,098 last year and there was a woman. 201 00:08:53,141 --> 00:08:54,581 She had her daughter with her 202 00:08:54,621 --> 00:08:56,751 and she was shaking and crying 203 00:08:56,797 --> 00:09:00,237 and -- and she said, "This is Jamie. 204 00:09:00,278 --> 00:09:02,588 This is Jamie." And I was like "Hi, Jamie." 205 00:09:02,629 --> 00:09:05,809 And she's like "No, I named her after you." 206 00:09:05,849 --> 00:09:07,419 And I took a moment and I said, 207 00:09:07,459 --> 00:09:09,199 "You do realize that I... 208 00:09:09,244 --> 00:09:10,594 killed my... 209 00:09:10,637 --> 00:09:12,117 mother in the movie, right?" 210 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,210 Like, I mean, it's scary to watch. 211 00:09:14,249 --> 00:09:16,769 When "Halloween 4" comes on, I'm still glued to the screen. 212 00:09:16,817 --> 00:09:18,777 It's just incredibly terrifying. 213 00:09:18,819 --> 00:09:20,649 What scene, in any of the series, 214 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:22,610 stayed with you? I'm all over this. All right. 215 00:09:22,649 --> 00:09:23,869 -Go ahead. -So, the opening 216 00:09:23,911 --> 00:09:26,391 of "Halloween 4," I think, 217 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:27,825 is the best opening of any Hm. 218 00:09:27,871 --> 00:09:29,701 slasher franchise, ever. 219 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:34,403 From the shots of farmland and that autumn coloring, 220 00:09:34,443 --> 00:09:37,143 that is Halloween, the holiday. 221 00:09:37,185 --> 00:09:39,445 And then, when they're taking him on the -- 222 00:09:39,491 --> 00:09:42,491 the gurney, and that first kill is so simple. 223 00:09:42,538 --> 00:09:43,758 It's just a thumb in the head. Aaaaah! 224 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,190 No! 225 00:09:45,236 --> 00:09:47,366 But it was suddenly violent and it was gory 226 00:09:47,412 --> 00:09:49,762 and it seemed painful, and that was everything. 227 00:09:49,806 --> 00:09:52,546 If you can evoke that kind of feeling 228 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:53,982 and then just deliver like that, 229 00:09:54,028 --> 00:09:55,288 and it -- it's just perfect. 230 00:09:55,333 --> 00:09:56,733 "Halloween," 300 grand, 231 00:09:56,770 --> 00:09:57,900 basically, you know. Mm-hmm. 232 00:09:57,945 --> 00:09:59,765 Carpenter composes the score 233 00:09:59,816 --> 00:10:01,686 in three days or something, uses a mask 234 00:10:01,731 --> 00:10:03,651 that he just bought of William Shatner. 235 00:10:03,690 --> 00:10:05,210 Cost like a dollar to do. 236 00:10:05,256 --> 00:10:06,686 Do you know the story of why William Shatner? 237 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:07,956 Like I don't know. 238 00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:09,648 They just wanted something plain. 239 00:10:09,696 --> 00:10:12,126 I think it was between like a clown mask 240 00:10:12,176 --> 00:10:14,216 that they found and a William Shatner mask 241 00:10:14,265 --> 00:10:15,345 and they were like "Uh..." 242 00:10:15,397 --> 00:10:16,827 They bought it at the store. 243 00:10:16,877 --> 00:10:18,487 There were -- "Star Trek" masks were out 244 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:20,880 and they just painted it white, and that was it. 245 00:10:20,924 --> 00:10:23,714 I guess I owe the success of "Halloween" to William Shatner. 246 00:10:23,753 --> 00:10:25,843 The Michael Myers mask is so iconic. 247 00:10:25,886 --> 00:10:27,626 They chose it because it's William Shatner, 248 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:29,020 he had neutral features, 249 00:10:29,063 --> 00:10:31,023 and they ended up having this happy accident 250 00:10:31,065 --> 00:10:33,235 where they made a really iconic mask for nothing. 251 00:10:33,284 --> 00:10:34,854 So we thought it'd be really fun 252 00:10:34,895 --> 00:10:37,845 if we could try to do that again today on the show 253 00:10:37,898 --> 00:10:39,678 with a whole bunch of different masks. 254 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,174 I wanted to see if you guys can can recognize 255 00:10:44,208 --> 00:10:46,118 who these masks are 256 00:10:46,167 --> 00:10:47,817 and if they're actually terrifying. 257 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:50,354 All right, so, let's go with this guy first. 258 00:10:50,388 --> 00:10:51,428 What we do we think? 259 00:10:51,476 --> 00:10:52,696 I'm gonna go with Lady Gaga. 260 00:10:52,739 --> 00:10:54,779 -Oh. -Lady Gaga? 261 00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:57,348 Terrifying, or just kind of lame? 262 00:10:57,395 --> 00:10:58,695 Both: Kinda lame. Kind of lame? 263 00:10:58,745 --> 00:10:59,695 This is... 264 00:10:59,746 --> 00:11:00,876 David Bowie?! Ugh! 265 00:11:00,921 --> 00:11:02,881 Wow! 266 00:11:02,923 --> 00:11:04,053 How 'bout this one? 267 00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:05,748 -Hillary Clinton. -Hillary Clinton. 268 00:11:05,795 --> 00:11:07,275 And do we think...? 269 00:11:07,318 --> 00:11:08,538 -Like... -It's the teeth. 270 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:09,930 I mean, this might be terrifying. 271 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:12,323 It is, in fact, Hillary Clinton. 272 00:11:14,456 --> 00:11:16,716 So, let's go ahead with this one next. 273 00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:17,893 Ohh! Man. 274 00:11:17,938 --> 00:11:19,198 -I don't know. -I don't know, 275 00:11:19,243 --> 00:11:21,593 but it's not scary. Both: Not scary. 276 00:11:21,637 --> 00:11:22,897 Bernie Sanders? 277 00:11:22,943 --> 00:11:24,473 Both: Bernie Sanders. And this one? 278 00:11:24,509 --> 00:11:25,599 -Adam: The Rock. -It's the eyebrow. 279 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:26,771 You can tell from the eyebrow. 280 00:11:26,816 --> 00:11:29,246 Terrifying, or...? 281 00:11:29,297 --> 00:11:30,857 I would make him the lead of every movie. 282 00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:32,207 The lead of every movie. 283 00:11:32,256 --> 00:11:33,646 -Yeah. -It is... 284 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,043 The Rock. So you guys 285 00:11:35,085 --> 00:11:36,165 could both smell what he was cooking. 286 00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:37,607 -Yep. -Yes. 287 00:11:37,653 --> 00:11:39,393 -What do we think? -It looks almost close 288 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:40,737 to the Myers mask. 289 00:11:40,787 --> 00:11:42,047 It's not 'cause of those ears. Yeah. 290 00:11:42,092 --> 00:11:44,312 But this might be on the creepy side. 291 00:11:44,355 --> 00:11:45,435 Who is this? 292 00:11:45,487 --> 00:11:46,877 John Cena. 293 00:11:46,923 --> 00:11:48,193 John Cena? 294 00:11:49,926 --> 00:11:51,886 -Wow! Okay. -Well, Mr. Cena... 295 00:11:51,928 --> 00:11:53,408 you are, indeed, terrifying. 296 00:11:53,451 --> 00:11:55,151 The next one. So, what do we think 297 00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:57,592 of this guy? Adam: Gene Simmons? Uh, wait. 298 00:11:57,629 --> 00:11:58,939 I have no idea who that is. I don't, either. 299 00:11:58,979 --> 00:12:00,459 It is kind of scary, though. 300 00:12:00,502 --> 00:12:02,072 But it would need different hair. 301 00:12:02,112 --> 00:12:04,162 The hair's a little too fun. It's like a kids' party. 302 00:12:04,201 --> 00:12:05,381 Like a horrible kids' party. Little too wacky. 303 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:06,990 -Yeah. -All right. 304 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:07,990 Let's see who that is. Adam: Let's see who it is. 305 00:12:08,031 --> 00:12:10,081 Giuliani! Okay. 306 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,120 Danielle: Aww. Well, I think Hillary 307 00:12:11,165 --> 00:12:12,775 was pretty scary. But -- 308 00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:14,909 -John Cena's the scariest. -John Cena's the scariest. 309 00:12:14,951 --> 00:12:16,871 Mr. Cena, you win this round. 310 00:12:19,260 --> 00:12:21,480 I'm gonna go as him for Halloween. 311 00:12:23,003 --> 00:12:25,793 This feels oddly comfortable and... 312 00:12:25,832 --> 00:12:27,142 familiar. 313 00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:28,441 If you'll excuse me. 314 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,708 Did she just leave us? 315 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,193 Yeah, she probably -- she probably just left. 316 00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:37,022 She's an icon. She can do whatever she wants. 317 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:38,450 Well, speaking of icons, let's check out 318 00:12:38,496 --> 00:12:40,316 some iconic moments from the franchise. 319 00:12:45,547 --> 00:12:47,507 Cute, Bob. Real cute. 320 00:12:47,549 --> 00:12:48,679 Clearly, we love this one. 321 00:12:48,724 --> 00:12:50,164 This one's very influential. 322 00:12:50,204 --> 00:12:52,034 This is the perfect example of tension. 323 00:12:52,075 --> 00:12:56,165 Yeah, it's a great exercise in trusting your audience. 324 00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:59,740 The camera isn't moving around or trying to sell you, 325 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:01,739 "You're scared" or "This is suspenseful." 326 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:04,961 It's literally just a shape in a doorway, doing nothing. 327 00:13:05,001 --> 00:13:07,611 Yet, the longer this goes on, 328 00:13:07,656 --> 00:13:09,346 you're just building and building 329 00:13:09,397 --> 00:13:11,397 and waiting for that release. 330 00:13:11,442 --> 00:13:13,442 This is also sort of the beginning of, 331 00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:16,138 "If you have sex in a horror movie, you will die." 332 00:13:16,186 --> 00:13:17,406 Yeah, absolutely. 333 00:13:17,448 --> 00:13:19,098 Uhh. Uhhhh. 334 00:13:23,411 --> 00:13:25,281 So, this scene is great. 335 00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:27,586 In the first one, we got to see that you can 336 00:13:27,632 --> 00:13:30,422 knock the killer down or shoot him, 337 00:13:30,461 --> 00:13:31,991 but he'll get back up. 338 00:13:32,028 --> 00:13:34,938 But now, I mean, literally, take out his eyes -- 339 00:13:34,988 --> 00:13:38,028 like he's full-on supernatural at this point. 340 00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:42,778 But he's also acting more human than we've seen him act. 341 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:44,522 He's signifying pain Ah! 342 00:13:44,562 --> 00:13:46,132 and he can't see. 343 00:13:46,173 --> 00:13:47,743 It was a great way to sort of humanize him 344 00:13:47,783 --> 00:13:50,703 before killing him for good, supposedly. 345 00:13:55,617 --> 00:13:57,967 All right. "Halloween 4." 346 00:13:58,011 --> 00:13:59,881 Now, there -- there's so much to this scene. 347 00:13:59,926 --> 00:14:02,016 I mean, look, it's an homage to the very beginning 348 00:14:02,058 --> 00:14:06,018 of the original, and it was shocking at the time. 349 00:14:06,062 --> 00:14:07,982 The fact that little Jamie Lloyd Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! 350 00:14:08,021 --> 00:14:09,891 goes and stabs her own mother 351 00:14:09,936 --> 00:14:11,886 and her just standing there, covered in blood, 352 00:14:11,938 --> 00:14:13,768 I mean, that is what made 353 00:14:13,809 --> 00:14:15,029 Danielle timeless. No! 354 00:14:15,071 --> 00:14:16,291 No! And the way Loomis is just 355 00:14:16,333 --> 00:14:17,333 yelling, "No! 356 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:19,208 No, no, no, no!" 357 00:14:19,249 --> 00:14:20,689 It's just -- Love it. 358 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:21,729 It's perfect. 359 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:28,043 Another great one from "Halloween." 360 00:14:28,084 --> 00:14:29,834 The impalement. 361 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:34,089 So, what made this so memorable: i-it's not the death scene. 362 00:14:34,134 --> 00:14:37,054 It's Michael Myers's reaction after, 363 00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:39,103 the way he admires his work, almost. 364 00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:42,359 He sticks this dude to the wall with a butcher knife 365 00:14:42,403 --> 00:14:44,623 and then like slowly cocks his head to the side, 366 00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:45,966 like looking at it. 367 00:14:46,015 --> 00:14:48,235 You learn more about him through that head nod 368 00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:49,448 than anything else. 369 00:14:51,455 --> 00:14:52,935 The incredible reveal. 370 00:14:52,979 --> 00:14:54,499 "Halloween," the original. 371 00:14:54,545 --> 00:14:55,845 This is one of the first films 372 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,845 where the dead villain actually gets back up. 373 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,807 Yeah, the composition of that shot of him slowly rising up, 374 00:15:00,856 --> 00:15:02,676 uh, is fantastic. 375 00:15:02,727 --> 00:15:04,247 But the fact that the mask came off 376 00:15:04,294 --> 00:15:06,914 and you saw a real man. 377 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:08,209 And he's a handsome guy, too -- 378 00:15:08,255 --> 00:15:09,335 that's the weirdest thing about it. 379 00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:10,906 It's like he's not maimed. 380 00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:12,523 He's not like an alien. 381 00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:15,263 He's just a handsome young man on a killing spree. 382 00:15:15,305 --> 00:15:16,565 You're right. He's not deformed. 383 00:15:16,611 --> 00:15:17,961 He's not a monster. 384 00:15:18,004 --> 00:15:19,884 He's -- He's the soccer coach next door. 385 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:22,309 He's your kid's -- your kid's teacher. 386 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:25,656 It's time. It's time. 387 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:27,667 Here is "Halloween III." 388 00:15:27,709 --> 00:15:30,539 One of themost underrated movies of all times. 389 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,021 And the -- the -- the song, 390 00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:33,671 and all it is is "London Bridge Is Falling Down." 391 00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:35,055 -Yeah. -It's so simple. 392 00:15:35,108 --> 00:15:36,628 Silver Shamrock masks. 393 00:15:36,674 --> 00:15:38,334 Gather 'round your TV set. 394 00:15:38,372 --> 00:15:41,512 Man, th-this death, and that it was as child, 395 00:15:41,549 --> 00:15:43,289 -Yeah. -in front of his parents. 396 00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:47,733 What a batshit insane third movie for the sequel. 397 00:15:47,772 --> 00:15:50,042 Just a-a batshit movie in general. 398 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:51,649 -Aaaaaaaaaaaaah! -And just have it be this. 399 00:15:51,689 --> 00:15:53,169 It's just brutal. Man, that stupid song's 400 00:15:53,213 --> 00:15:54,693 gonna be stuck in my head forever now. 401 00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:56,386 ♪ Eight more days 402 00:15:56,433 --> 00:15:58,003 ♪ 'til Halloween, Halloween ♪ 403 00:15:59,132 --> 00:16:00,352 Oh! 404 00:16:08,837 --> 00:16:11,007 So, while we deal with the paperwork 405 00:16:11,057 --> 00:16:12,057 on that... Whoa. 406 00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:16,407 ...let's talk to Jim Ojala about decapitations. 407 00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:24,113 Yes, absolutely. 408 00:16:24,157 --> 00:16:25,807 When you do a decapitation, sometimes the head 409 00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:27,814 wants to fall off and it's really cumbersome 410 00:16:27,856 --> 00:16:30,336 and a big pain in the ass, so what we do is 411 00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:33,560 we put a high-powered magnet in the neck stump 412 00:16:33,601 --> 00:16:35,731 andin the stump of the head. 413 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:38,077 And -- boom -- it clicks on and it holds in place. 414 00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:39,607 -Wow. That's crazy. -So no fuckin' around. 415 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,000 -Yeah, that's insane. -Yeah. 416 00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:42,783 Jim: We've got a silicone skin. 417 00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:46,267 We've got a nice mold of our unfortunate crew member. 418 00:16:46,309 --> 00:16:52,319 And then we can cut right through his skin here. 419 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:53,579 Is this what you do for your front porch 420 00:16:53,621 --> 00:16:54,971 for Halloween every year? 421 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,364 Yes. I can't wait. 422 00:16:56,406 --> 00:16:57,756 That's -- I'm keeping this guy for this. 423 00:16:57,799 --> 00:16:58,969 I thought I was cool, giving out 424 00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:00,538 full-size candy bars. Clearly, uh, 425 00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:01,894 -Hey. -you've got me beat. 426 00:17:01,933 --> 00:17:03,373 Look at this. Hand-punched hairwork. 427 00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:04,893 -Oh, my. -This is hand-punched. 428 00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:06,366 Like we can cut right through his follicles. 429 00:17:06,416 --> 00:17:08,236 And how long does something like that take? 430 00:17:08,288 --> 00:17:11,068 This is usually like a good week of work. 431 00:17:11,117 --> 00:17:12,897 And just like that, you've destroyed it. 432 00:17:12,944 --> 00:17:14,424 Yes. 433 00:17:14,468 --> 00:17:16,908 And this isn't just some foam-filled piece of crap. 434 00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,078 Like we're scalping this guy. 435 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:20,075 Look at this. 436 00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:22,036 100% medically accurate. 437 00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,085 So, we got a hell of a scalp here. 438 00:17:26,132 --> 00:17:27,612 And then... 439 00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:29,085 gets... 440 00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:30,745 Yeah. Oh, my God. 441 00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:32,048 Now, did you make that brain yourself? 442 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:33,574 And that's what happens. Yes, I did. 443 00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:35,177 Me and my beautiful crew did. 444 00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:39,968 We got a cast of a real person's brain, a cadaver's brain. 445 00:17:40,015 --> 00:17:41,225 Boom. Oh, my 446 00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:42,837 -That's that. -God. 447 00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:45,977 And then,we can start diggin' in. 448 00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:47,591 Let-- Let's see what else is -- what we got here. 449 00:17:47,631 --> 00:17:49,631 Like oh, we got -- happen to have a great melon -- 450 00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:50,977 uh, melon baller here. 451 00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:53,156 Maybe we can get his -- 452 00:17:53,202 --> 00:17:55,032 get his eye out. 453 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:56,734 Ho-ly shit. 454 00:17:56,771 --> 00:17:57,991 -Oh, yeah. -And that's a whole -- 455 00:17:58,033 --> 00:17:59,773 Look at that. You can squish it. 456 00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,467 Man, you did such a good job with this. 457 00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:03,255 -Here, you want one, too? -Yeah, I definitely do. 458 00:18:03,299 --> 00:18:04,559 Here, you want -- you want to -- you want to yank that eye out? 459 00:18:04,605 --> 00:18:06,125 I know. This is so elaborate. 460 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:07,742 It's like "Friday the 13th III." 461 00:18:09,175 --> 00:18:12,305 -Whoa-oa! Like that. -Adam: Exactly. Yes. 462 00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:13,882 And this is totally edible, too, right? 463 00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:15,308 Oh, yeah, and you can squish it and everything. 464 00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:16,565 It's beautiful. It's got real veins, 465 00:18:16,617 --> 00:18:18,227 yeah. Oh! 466 00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:19,531 This is seriously incredible, though, 467 00:18:19,576 --> 00:18:21,356 because typically the hardest thing -- 468 00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:23,674 as we know, working with practical effects -- 469 00:18:23,711 --> 00:18:25,841 is you have to cut around it 470 00:18:25,887 --> 00:18:27,147 all the time, to sell it. 471 00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:28,853 Your angles are really important. 472 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:30,370 But you could literally just 473 00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:31,723 completely dismember this head, 474 00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:32,982 as we're seeing, Yes. 475 00:18:33,024 --> 00:18:34,334 and it is all perfect. 476 00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:35,944 It comes down to reverse engineering. 477 00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:38,944 You've got a mold of the poor bastard's head, 478 00:18:38,987 --> 00:18:40,677 and you just do you skin layer, 479 00:18:40,728 --> 00:18:43,248 you do your fat layer, you do your blood layer, 480 00:18:43,296 --> 00:18:45,856 and then you just back it up with muscle tissue 481 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,167 and all that shit. Then, uh, 482 00:18:48,214 --> 00:18:50,044 let's see -- Yeah, let's see -- Lookit. 483 00:18:50,085 --> 00:18:52,905 Yeah, you can cut this -- can cut this damn nose off, even. 484 00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:54,567 -Oh, my gosh! -Yeah. 485 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:56,611 -And what's in...? Ohh! -Yeah. Look at this. 486 00:18:56,657 --> 00:19:00,007 Nasal cavity with full cartilage accessory. 487 00:19:00,051 --> 00:19:01,491 This is the part where 488 00:19:01,531 --> 00:19:02,841 you tell us this is actually a real head 489 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,530 and you murdered somebody. 490 00:19:03,577 --> 00:19:04,837 Yes, exactly. 491 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:05,882 What do you make the cartilage out of? 492 00:19:05,927 --> 00:19:07,187 You know what that is? 493 00:19:07,233 --> 00:19:08,363 Latex and cotton. 494 00:19:08,408 --> 00:19:10,448 What went wrong, growing up, 495 00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:12,797 do you think, Jim? 496 00:19:12,847 --> 00:19:14,327 It happens. 497 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,200 You gotta be careful to cut around the mustache 498 00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:18,242 'cause that's a whole nother custom piece. 499 00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:19,677 And so this officially earns 500 00:19:19,723 --> 00:19:22,293 our X rating for Shudder, right? 501 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:23,675 Who wants to peel the -- Who wants to -- 502 00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:24,987 -Oh, can I, please? -You're the guest. 503 00:19:25,033 --> 00:19:26,123 Pull -- Pull that whole piece off. 504 00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:27,425 Oh, this is great. Oh. 505 00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:28,560 -Look at that. -I've always wanted... 506 00:19:28,602 --> 00:19:30,172 -Dude -- -I can't even tell 507 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:31,742 the difference, right? Mickey: Like it fits you. 508 00:19:31,779 --> 00:19:33,129 It fits you really well. Does it? 509 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:34,832 All right. Well, now I'm distinguished. 510 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:36,219 Another bonus of detail? 511 00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:37,572 Let's pry this guy's skull apart. 512 00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:38,571 What do you got in there? 513 00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:40,002 -A tongue! -A tongue! 514 00:19:40,048 --> 00:19:42,088 -Oh, my -- -Look at that. 515 00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:44,397 -What else we have in here? -Now, Jim, this is incredibly, 516 00:19:44,444 --> 00:19:45,534 insanely elaborate. How much 517 00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:46,965 does this whole guy cost? 518 00:19:47,011 --> 00:19:48,751 More than the budget of my last three films. 519 00:19:48,796 --> 00:19:51,576 This is -- This is -- One of the big things is it's just time. 520 00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:52,965 -Yeah. -You know, this is like 521 00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:54,407 three people working for days and days. 522 00:19:54,454 --> 00:19:56,334 Oh, God. So, you know, 523 00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:57,589 you only get like -- 524 00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:58,851 like one real shot of this. 525 00:19:58,893 --> 00:20:00,243 This is the money-shot gore, I think. 526 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:02,806 -Yeah. -Holy shit, Jim. 527 00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:05,253 Adam, you're like the master of gore in film, 528 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:07,681 so have you ever done something similar to this, 529 00:20:07,728 --> 00:20:09,028 th--this level of detail? 530 00:20:09,077 --> 00:20:10,427 You know, it's funny 'cause you always 531 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:12,520 just set it up to the shot. 532 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,259 So there's never been a reason 533 00:20:15,301 --> 00:20:17,781 to have something so elaborate 534 00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,345 that you're gonna do as a oner, 535 00:20:19,392 --> 00:20:20,522 although now I'm gettin' a lot of ideas. 536 00:20:20,567 --> 00:20:21,737 -Right. -Yeah. 537 00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:23,475 I have all the respect in the world 538 00:20:23,526 --> 00:20:25,486 for what you and your team do because, 539 00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:28,918 for an effect that usually would happen in a snap, 540 00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:30,356 you guys spend months, 541 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,363 and then you just watch it all fall apart. 542 00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:34,055 Mickey: Yeah. But 543 00:20:34,102 --> 00:20:35,232 Jim: There's this pile of poop. it is so worth it. 544 00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:36,537 Look at this! Yes. 545 00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:37,983 It's so worth it. It's so detailed. 546 00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:39,849 It's thousands of dollars, days and days of work. 547 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,890 Is there anything that we can do with this, you know, 548 00:20:41,936 --> 00:20:43,626 once the scene's done, once it's out? 549 00:20:43,677 --> 00:20:45,587 What if we did...? 550 00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:48,285 Just -- Just stick with me. 551 00:20:48,334 --> 00:20:50,424 What if we did 552 00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:53,686 a human... Ahhh. 553 00:20:53,730 --> 00:20:54,560 Jack-o'-lantern? 554 00:20:54,601 --> 00:20:56,471 Ohh, shit. 555 00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:57,296 Right? 556 00:20:57,343 --> 00:20:58,653 Is that...? 557 00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:00,042 Perfect for Halloween. 558 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,264 Right? Yeah. 559 00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:03,263 I'm traumatized. I'm terrified. 560 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:04,565 Pop it wherever you want to. 561 00:21:04,611 --> 00:21:06,091 Oh, come on. Do me next, do me next. 562 00:21:16,797 --> 00:21:19,017 Mickey: The face of horror is often occluded. 563 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:21,580 We think Voorhees, we think Jigsaw, 564 00:21:21,628 --> 00:21:23,108 we think Ghostface, 565 00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,111 but, most of all, we think of 566 00:21:25,153 --> 00:21:27,333 one Mr. Michael Myers. 567 00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:28,203 Bottom line? 568 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:30,553 Masks are fuckin' creepy. 569 00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:31,943 And here to talk about why 570 00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:35,076 is "Halloween" franchise expert Sean Clark. 571 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,379 -Hello, sir. How you doing? -Sir, how are you today? 572 00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:38,375 -Awesome. -So, as a expert of masks, 573 00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:40,207 why do you think, on a basic human level, 574 00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:41,425 we're just terrified of 'em? 575 00:21:41,474 --> 00:21:42,914 Why do they always show up 576 00:21:42,953 --> 00:21:44,693 in so many fuckin' horror movies? 577 00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:47,218 I think it's just the unknown, you know? 578 00:21:47,262 --> 00:21:48,702 Not knowing what's behind the mask. 579 00:21:48,742 --> 00:21:50,052 That's what's scary. 580 00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:53,271 Why is his mask in particular so iconic? 581 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,272 Expressionless, quiet. 582 00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:56,714 You know, they -- they described him 583 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,360 as a great white shark, you know? 584 00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:00,674 He seems like he needs that mask. 585 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,840 -Mm-hmm. -You know, he was killing 586 00:22:02,886 --> 00:22:05,976 Laurie, and then he stops and -- 587 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:07,410 "I have to put it right back on." 588 00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:09,326 You know what I mean? Like "I need this." 589 00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:11,161 Right. So it's kind of like "The Phantom of the Opera," 590 00:22:11,199 --> 00:22:12,549 too, almost like a reverse of that. 591 00:22:12,592 --> 00:22:14,862 'Cause everyone gasps when he takes his mask off. 592 00:22:14,898 --> 00:22:16,548 Yeah, I think that he was hoping 593 00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:19,896 the audience would expect that sort of a reveal, 594 00:22:19,947 --> 00:22:22,247 like we saw with Jason so many times, 595 00:22:22,297 --> 00:22:23,727 -Yeah. Right. -this horrific face. 596 00:22:23,777 --> 00:22:26,557 And it wasn't. It was just this plain guy. 597 00:22:26,606 --> 00:22:29,476 I guess that almost seems more frightening, 598 00:22:29,522 --> 00:22:31,182 -Yeah. -that it could be anybody. 599 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:33,611 Hello? 600 00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:35,046 Let's talk about the origins 601 00:22:35,092 --> 00:22:37,012 of the entire thing. 602 00:22:38,835 --> 00:22:41,445 I guess it would start at Don Post Studios. 603 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:46,500 So this here, actually, is the William Shatner life mask 604 00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:48,409 that Bill Malone used 605 00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:51,984 to make the William Shatner/ Captain Kirk mask 606 00:22:52,022 --> 00:22:53,632 for Don Post Studios. 607 00:22:53,676 --> 00:22:55,766 You can actually already see that's creepy as it is. 608 00:22:55,809 --> 00:22:57,549 It kind of looks like origins of drama, 609 00:22:57,593 --> 00:22:58,943 the Greek chorus mask, 610 00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:01,986 and it's so funny to see this kind of influence 611 00:23:02,032 --> 00:23:04,382 an entire culture of horror films. 612 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:08,167 So, what they did is 613 00:23:08,212 --> 00:23:10,132 Tommy Lee Wallace took this mask here. 614 00:23:10,171 --> 00:23:14,091 He took the eyebrows off, he took the sideburns off, 615 00:23:14,131 --> 00:23:17,271 he cut the eyes wider, and he spray-painted it white, 616 00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:19,048 literally, with spray paint. 617 00:23:19,093 --> 00:23:22,793 And then he took streaks and tips, brown, and -- 618 00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,966 and just ran it through the hair and darkened the hair. 619 00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:28,763 And -- boom -- he had this. 620 00:23:28,798 --> 00:23:30,928 And when he walked in the room wearing this, 621 00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,374 when they did the screen tests, 622 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,411 I guess everybody just got chills. 623 00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:35,846 And I can see why 'cause 624 00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:37,462 it's fuckin' creepy as shit. Yeah. 625 00:23:37,503 --> 00:23:39,373 -It's absolutely terrifying. -Mm-hmm. 626 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:40,848 So, there are technically, in the first one, 627 00:23:40,897 --> 00:23:42,547 three Michael Myers actors? 628 00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:44,205 Well, if you want to get technical, 629 00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:46,468 seven people played Michael Myers in the first film. 630 00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:49,432 Nick Castle did probably 95% of the work. 631 00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:52,211 But Tommy Lee Wallace, who was the production designer, 632 00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:54,256 pretty much anytime Michael Myers broke something, 633 00:23:54,302 --> 00:23:56,172 he put on the costume 'cause, 634 00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:57,777 being the art director, he knew how 635 00:23:57,827 --> 00:23:59,257 to break things, you know? Right. 636 00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:01,527 There was one scene with a dog trainer 637 00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:04,180 that wore the costume when he kills the German shepherd. 638 00:24:04,225 --> 00:24:05,835 Tony Moran played the unmasked. 639 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:07,489 He's in it for like eight seconds, 640 00:24:07,533 --> 00:24:08,933 but he's the face of Michael. 641 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:12,059 Strangely enough, he was Erin Moran's brother, 642 00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:13,502 who was Joanie on "Happy Days." 643 00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:14,579 -Okay. -Yeah. 644 00:24:14,627 --> 00:24:16,537 Jim Windburn was a stunt man 645 00:24:16,585 --> 00:24:18,015 who took the fall. 646 00:24:18,065 --> 00:24:19,495 He's literally in one scene 647 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:21,235 of his ass coming towards the camera. 648 00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:22,975 Will Sandin played young Michael Myers. 649 00:24:23,026 --> 00:24:24,636 And then Debra Hill did one scene. 650 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,770 She was the producer. 651 00:24:25,812 --> 00:24:27,642 She was standing across the street 652 00:24:27,683 --> 00:24:29,213 when Tommy Doyle looks out the window 653 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:30,770 and sees the silhouette in front of the house? 654 00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:32,777 Yeah. And is it true that Debra Hill is also 655 00:24:32,819 --> 00:24:34,389 the hand in that opening long take? 656 00:24:34,429 --> 00:24:35,949 Exactly. She was the hands 657 00:24:35,996 --> 00:24:37,866 of young Michael grabbing the knife 658 00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,351 and stabbing Judith. 659 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:41,040 Ohhh! Aah! 660 00:24:41,088 --> 00:24:43,258 Now, this is the "Part II" mask. 661 00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:44,657 It's the same mask. 662 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,050 This one looks more weathered because, 663 00:24:47,094 --> 00:24:48,844 since it was spray-paint and stuff, 664 00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:50,748 I mean, stuff would stick to it, and -- 665 00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:53,673 and it would get dirty easily, and, um, it -- 666 00:24:53,709 --> 00:24:55,279 it just gave it a whole different look 667 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,189 by the time it got to "Part II." 668 00:24:57,234 --> 00:24:59,674 And, actually, in my opinion, this version's creepier. 669 00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:01,535 I do agree. I think the second movie 670 00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:03,147 has a scarier- looking mask. 671 00:25:03,197 --> 00:25:05,417 Yeah. He played it differently, too. 672 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:07,290 He had a real robot kind of vibe, 673 00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:08,861 and I always found that creepy. 674 00:25:08,898 --> 00:25:10,378 Well, the robot vibe actually kind of 675 00:25:10,421 --> 00:25:11,681 leads us into "Part III." 676 00:25:11,727 --> 00:25:13,157 If you want to talk about robots... 677 00:25:13,207 --> 00:25:15,467 Both: Yes. This was actually screen-used. 678 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,214 The pumpkin ended up being the one that, uh, 679 00:25:17,254 --> 00:25:19,264 little Buddy met his demise wearing. 680 00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:27,571 Now, in "Part 4," they thought, "Well, let's get a guy 681 00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:30,093 from Don Post Studios to convert a mask for us." 682 00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:33,837 And he took what they say was an original Shatner 683 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,750 and did his conversion to it 684 00:25:35,795 --> 00:25:37,095 and it ended up looking like this. 685 00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:38,934 Now, this 686 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:40,712 didn't really go over well. 687 00:25:40,756 --> 00:25:42,716 Not my favorite, not a fan favorite. 688 00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:44,588 But then it gets really weird, Mm-hmm. Yeah. 689 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:46,280 -when we get to "Part 5." -How so? 690 00:25:49,852 --> 00:25:51,942 This was the version they started with, 691 00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:53,985 and the director didn't like the nose 692 00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:55,680 and he wanted it a little bit bigger. 693 00:25:55,728 --> 00:25:59,598 Now, this is the nose extension that they added to it. 694 00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:01,685 You can see the seam lines. Yeah. 695 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:04,134 So it gave the mask a very different look here. 696 00:26:04,171 --> 00:26:05,831 Uh, but there was a scene in the film 697 00:26:05,868 --> 00:26:08,608 where he puts on someone else's mask. 698 00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:11,614 And that's this one here, which is actually 699 00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:13,827 kind of referred to fans as The Brute. 700 00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:17,176 It's basically a German mask from some German company. 701 00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:19,317 They literally bought it off a store shelf 702 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:20,670 and put it on the guy. 703 00:26:20,709 --> 00:26:22,619 I just love barbaric men. 704 00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:25,628 Now, they brought in effects artist John Carl Buechler 705 00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:27,281 to do the mask for "Halloween 6." 706 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:32,240 It's got a cool, evil, rough look to it. 707 00:26:32,286 --> 00:26:33,976 I thought they were starting to get it right 708 00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:36,117 when they got to this mask, as far as I thought. 709 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,809 Then, when they went on to do "Halloween H20"... 710 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,818 ...they decided to bring John Carl Buechler back 711 00:26:43,863 --> 00:26:45,653 and have him make the mask for that film, 712 00:26:45,691 --> 00:26:48,651 which, this is actually the screen-used version right here. 713 00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:50,224 -Oh, wow. -So this was used 714 00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:52,130 in the opening scene, 715 00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:55,175 where he goes in the house and kills the nurse. 716 00:26:55,222 --> 00:26:57,962 So, they'd shot that scene with this mask, 717 00:26:58,007 --> 00:27:00,837 but Steve Miner, the director, when he saw the footage, 718 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,270 he didn't like the mask. 719 00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:04,056 He wanted it changed and wanted it to be 720 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,280 completely plain and blank. 721 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,450 So they brought in this version. 722 00:27:09,497 --> 00:27:11,667 So, they shot the entire movie with this. 723 00:27:11,717 --> 00:27:16,977 Then, apparently, an executive at Dimension saw the footage 724 00:27:17,026 --> 00:27:19,116 and stood up in the middle of the theater and said, 725 00:27:19,159 --> 00:27:21,069 "That's not fucking Michael Myers. 726 00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:23,467 What the fuck is that?" and like went off. 727 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:25,171 He went to Stan Winston Studios and said, 728 00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:27,728 "Hey, we need a Michael Myers mask. We need it fast." 729 00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:30,556 So he had one of his guys sculpt this mask. 730 00:27:30,605 --> 00:27:31,815 And what they did is they went back 731 00:27:31,867 --> 00:27:34,387 and reshot all the close-ups. 732 00:27:34,435 --> 00:27:37,475 So, if you look closely in the film, you'll notice, 733 00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:39,825 when Michael's coming, it's this mask. 734 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:41,525 But then, when he gets close, 735 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,492 it's this mask. It's -- Oh, my God. 736 00:27:43,531 --> 00:27:44,841 And, once you notice that, 737 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,490 it really starts to get annoying. 738 00:27:46,534 --> 00:27:49,714 So that's the movie that had the most masks in it. 739 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:51,665 Well, now let's get on to "Resurrection." 740 00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,976 I think they got so tired 741 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:02,505 with these studios not being able to get it right 742 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:03,770 that they thought, "You know right? 743 00:28:03,812 --> 00:28:06,342 Let's hire a mask company to make it." 744 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:09,430 So they got Cinema Secrets to make the mask. 745 00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:13,040 They literally took this mask and tried to replicate it. 746 00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:16,172 So if you look, the sculpture is very similar, 747 00:28:16,216 --> 00:28:17,866 but the problem with Cinema Secrets was 748 00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,743 it just looks like a store-bought mask. 749 00:28:20,786 --> 00:28:22,436 It's just -- It's just overdone. 750 00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:23,753 -Yeah, totally. -That's the problem. 751 00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:26,009 It's too polished. It's too shiny. 752 00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:27,402 -I mean, they -- -It's very clean-cut 753 00:28:27,444 --> 00:28:29,194 -Yeah. -around the scalp, too. 754 00:28:29,229 --> 00:28:31,059 I mean, he looks like he went to a salon. 755 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,280 I mean -- You know what I mean? 756 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:33,489 -Yeah. -So, we got to get into 757 00:28:33,537 --> 00:28:35,407 the reboot now. Which, 758 00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,632 I don't know about you. Big fan. 759 00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,936 This one goes through several kind of changes. 760 00:28:42,982 --> 00:28:45,772 This is the sort of rotted version that you -- 761 00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:47,031 he finds in the floorboards. Yeah. 762 00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:48,643 I-I like the sculpture. 763 00:28:48,683 --> 00:28:50,213 I think it's cool. It looks angry. 764 00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:52,640 It's got a -- It's got a cool vibe to it. 765 00:28:52,687 --> 00:28:55,467 So, this was the 2007 version. 766 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:58,206 And then, when he came out and did "Halloween II"... 767 00:29:00,347 --> 00:29:04,217 ...it was even more distressed and, you know, falling apart. 768 00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:05,834 And -- And it goes through different stages 769 00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:08,094 in "Halloween II," as well. Like this whole part 770 00:29:08,137 --> 00:29:09,657 is cut away at one point. 771 00:29:09,704 --> 00:29:12,754 But this is kind of stage 1 of "Halloween II." 772 00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,844 As a "Halloween" franchise expert, 773 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:17,673 what do you hope for in the re-reboot, 774 00:29:17,712 --> 00:29:20,322 as far as masks go, for Michael Myers? 775 00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:23,667 Gotta go with the original Don Post Captain Kirk, you know? 776 00:29:23,718 --> 00:29:24,978 -Yeah. -I mean, this -- 777 00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:26,294 this is the definitive look. 778 00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:27,769 This is what the fans want. 779 00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:30,029 Sir, thank you somuch for coming today. 780 00:29:30,072 --> 00:29:32,422 This is every horror fan's dream. 781 00:29:32,466 --> 00:29:33,766 I want to thank you again 782 00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:35,425 for all that knowledge. Sean Clark. 783 00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:37,509 I love the "Halloween" series. 784 00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:39,868 I could easily watch all 10 movies in one night. 785 00:29:39,908 --> 00:29:41,648 But what if you're thirsting for more? 786 00:29:47,742 --> 00:29:49,442 10 movies down, 787 00:29:49,483 --> 00:29:51,273 and I'm hungry for more this Halloween season. 788 00:29:51,311 --> 00:29:52,141 Isn't that great? 789 00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:53,661 Let's get into some real 790 00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,234 All Hallow's heavy hitters. 791 00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:56,661 Lay 'em on me. All right. 792 00:29:56,707 --> 00:29:59,707 Up first, we got two Shudder exclusives: 793 00:29:59,754 --> 00:30:02,104 "Spookers" and "Found Footage 3D." 794 00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,018 "Spookers" is from New Zealand 795 00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:06,333 and it's about the largest haunted attraction there. 796 00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:09,939 Really gets into who owns it, who works there, 797 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:11,902 who attends, and why. 798 00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:13,250 Aah! 799 00:30:14,508 --> 00:30:16,508 -Aah! -If you love the season, 800 00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:18,033 this movie loves you. 801 00:30:18,077 --> 00:30:19,377 That's great. I love that. 802 00:30:19,426 --> 00:30:20,596 "Found Footage 3D." 803 00:30:20,644 --> 00:30:22,564 The first found-footage 804 00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:25,083 horror movie 805 00:30:25,127 --> 00:30:26,997 in 3D. Clever, meta. 806 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:28,352 It's a bit like "Scream," 807 00:30:28,391 --> 00:30:29,961 but for found-footage movies. Okay. 808 00:30:30,002 --> 00:30:33,182 It's about a crew making a found-footage movie in 3D. 809 00:30:33,222 --> 00:30:35,832 It all goes wrong because there's a demon about. 810 00:30:35,877 --> 00:30:37,307 -Oh, shit. -Aaaaaaaaah! 811 00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:41,136 It's superfunny; it's supercool. 812 00:30:41,187 --> 00:30:43,487 It's a perfect, perfect, October movie. 813 00:30:43,537 --> 00:30:44,667 And so can you watch it 814 00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,022 fully in 3D on Shudder? 815 00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:47,761 Yes. you. can. 816 00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:49,152 -That's awesome. -"Ghostwatch." 817 00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:50,625 This is like an essential, dude. 818 00:30:50,674 --> 00:30:52,154 Have you ever heard of this? I've never heard 819 00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:54,938 of "Ghostwatch." What big eyes you have. 820 00:30:54,983 --> 00:30:56,383 This is a legend. 821 00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:58,199 It aired on Halloween 1992, 822 00:30:58,247 --> 00:30:59,637 on the BBC. 823 00:30:59,683 --> 00:31:01,603 We hope to show you, for the first time, 824 00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:04,952 irrefutable proof that ghosts really do exist. 825 00:31:04,993 --> 00:31:06,783 -Never aired again. -Why? 826 00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:08,911 They aired it as a real news broadcast, 827 00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:11,174 as a live investigation of a haunted house. 828 00:31:11,217 --> 00:31:13,257 It freaked the entire country out. 829 00:31:13,306 --> 00:31:15,786 If you watch it today, it's a hell of a lot of fun, 830 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:17,530 it's a hell of a lot of creepy, 831 00:31:17,571 --> 00:31:18,881 and you just gotta see it. 832 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,100 Sounds like they went Orson Welles, 833 00:31:20,139 --> 00:31:21,229 "War of the Worlds"- type vibe there. 834 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:23,190 -100%. -The definition of 835 00:31:23,229 --> 00:31:24,929 fake news, I guess. 836 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,320 Uh, what else do we got? 837 00:31:26,362 --> 00:31:27,802 We got "Tales from the Darkside." 838 00:31:27,842 --> 00:31:29,452 They put toilet paper in my trees. 839 00:31:29,496 --> 00:31:30,756 That's because you didn't give 'em 840 00:31:30,801 --> 00:31:32,411 any Halloween candy. 841 00:31:32,455 --> 00:31:34,015 Oh, baby. 842 00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:36,846 This is everyone's favorite '80s anthology series. 843 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,375 Created by, executive-produced by, George A. Romero. 844 00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:42,029 You can watch every episode on Shudder, but, 845 00:31:42,074 --> 00:31:44,384 two great Halloween ones, including "Halloween Candy" 846 00:31:44,424 --> 00:31:47,564 and "Trick or Treat," written by Mr. Romero himself. 847 00:31:47,601 --> 00:31:48,951 That sounds awesome. 848 00:31:48,994 --> 00:31:51,214 Finally, "Murder Party." 849 00:31:51,257 --> 00:31:53,477 Welcome to your murder. 850 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,960 Oh, shit. Jeremy Saulnier's 851 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,220 first movie. Exactly. 852 00:31:56,262 --> 00:31:57,612 It's a mean little horror comedy 853 00:31:57,654 --> 00:31:59,354 set on Halloween night 854 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,785 and, uh, perfect if you got a few hipsters in your life. 855 00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:02,882 Ugh. Who doesn't? 856 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:08,930 Everybody dies. 857 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:10,620 Well, these are awesome. I can't wait to watch. 858 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:12,757 This is really gonna make my Halloween incredible. 859 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,630 Thank you so much and 860 00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:16,761 Happy Halloween, bro. Happy Halloween. 861 00:32:16,804 --> 00:32:17,894 Hey, check your apples. 862 00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:23,067 Children: Trick or treat! 863 00:32:23,115 --> 00:32:26,245 Well, that does it for this episode of "The Core." 864 00:32:26,292 --> 00:32:27,772 I wanna thank Adam Green 865 00:32:27,815 --> 00:32:30,075 and Danielle Harris again for... 866 00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:32,472 Wait a second. 867 00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:34,385 Fun size? 868 00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:35,390 Fun size?! 869 00:32:35,431 --> 00:32:37,871 Fucking fun size?! 870 00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:39,262 Hold on a second. 871 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,475 I got some business to attend to. 872 00:32:54,102 --> 00:32:55,542 Adam: Oh, hey, Mickey. Cool mask. 873 00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:57,152 Hey, Green, you said full-size! 874 00:32:57,192 --> 00:32:58,672 -Aah! -Don't try to run! 875 00:32:58,715 --> 00:32:59,845 Aah! Aah! 876 00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:01,810 Aah! Aah! Aah! 877 00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:03,329 Aaah! Aaah! 878 00:33:03,372 --> 00:33:05,162 Aah! Aah! 879 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:14,042 Person: He's trying to kill him! 880 00:33:16,211 --> 00:33:18,471 Trying to kill him! 881 00:33:19,823 --> 00:33:21,133 Aggh! 882 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,840 Aaaaah! 61551

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