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Johnny cash: Right now I'd like
you to meet a young lady,
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a very lovely young lady,
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that I really think has
what it takes to be around
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for a long, long time to come.
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I'd like you to meet
Ms. Linda ronstadt.
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J“ feelin' better j'
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j“ now that we 're through j'
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j“ feelin' better j'
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j“ 'cause I'm over you j“
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j“ I learned my lesson j“
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j“ it left a scar j“
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I now I see how you really are I
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j“ you're no good
you're no good j“
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j“ you're no good
baby, you're no good j“
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j“ I'm gonna say it again j“
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j“ you're no good
you're no good j“
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j“ you're no good
baby, you're no good j“
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here's a gal
who really sings great.
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We had her on the show last
year and she was sensational.
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Dick cavett: My first guest
occupies a prominent place
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in the top 40 record charts
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and she has a big one right now.
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Hugh Hefner: Linda ronstadt is
one of the really great talents
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in country music.
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Would you welcome
please Linda ronstadt.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Ms. Linda ronstadt.
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J“ now baby
and I'm going my way j“
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j“ forget about you, baby j“
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j“ 'cause I'm ieavin' to stay j“
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j“ you're no good... j'
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Linda could literally
sing anything.
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J“ no good J“
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Bonnie Raitt: I don't think
anybody has tried more different styles
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and nailed it than Linda has.
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There's not that many people
that can pull off new wave music
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and rock and the most
beautiful country ballads.
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Her range is huge.
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John boylan: She decided
what she wanted to do.
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More important what she
was authentic at doing.
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And they always told her no,
you can't do this,
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you'll ruin your career.
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She did it anyway.
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J“ good j“
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Linda ronstadt: Someone
once asked me why people sing.
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I answered that they sing
for many of the same reasons
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birds sing.
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They sing for a mate.
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To claim their territory.
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Or simply to give voice
to the delight of being alive
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in the midst of a beautiful day.
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They sing so the subsequent
generations won't forget what
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the current generations endured
or dreamed or delighted in.
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There are a lot of really
good singers out in the world.
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A lot of better singers
than I am.
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What I did that was different
from other singers,
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I did a whole lot of
different kinds of material.
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People would think that I was
trying to reinvent myself
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but I never invented
myself to start with.
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I just kind of popped out
into the world.
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My mom grew up in Michigan.
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Her dad was an inventor.
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He was the third to
Thomas Edison in the number
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of useful inventions in the 50s.
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He invented the electric stove,
the electric toaster.
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The thermostat for westinghouse.
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But my grandmother
had Parkinson's disease
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and he spent all his money
trying to find a cure.
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And that's what I have now.
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My mom was really smart too.
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She wanted to study math
and physics
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and the university of Arizona
was really good for that.
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She came out to Tucson
where she met my father.
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My great grandfather
friedrich ronstadt
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came from Germany
to Mexico in 1839.
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My father's father, federico,
moved to Tucson when he was 14
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to work as a wagon maker.
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But his true passion was music.
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So he started the club
filarmonico tucsonense.
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He was the one who
wrote the arrangements
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and taught everybody
how to play their instruments.
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He was like the music man.
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If you wanted to serenade
your sweetheart,
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you'd get my grandfather's
band to go.
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And if you had a wedding
or a funeral,
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well, they'd show up for that.
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First time my mother ever saw
my dad he was riding his horse
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up the steps of her
sorority house.
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My dad had a lovely
baritone tenor voice
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and knew a lot of beautiful
Mexican love songs
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that were rooted
in his childhood.
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He serenaded my mother
underneath her balcony.
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And she fell big for him.
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J“ I'm a rambler j“
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j“ I'm a gambler j“
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j“ I'm a long way from home j“
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j“ if you people j“
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j“ don't like me j'
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j“ you can leave me alone j“
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ronstadt: I grew up in Tucson
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on the last ten acres of my
grandfather's cattle ranch.
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We were very isolated
so if you wanted entertainment
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you kind of had
to make your own.
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There was a lot of music
going on in that house.
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Some of it came in
through the radio.
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That was my best
friend in the world.
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J“ how's about cooking... j“
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we had an amazing radio
in Tucson
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because it was really close
to the border.
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We could get the
Louisiana hayride.
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J“ get goin'
Louisiana hayride j“
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j“ no use for callin' de roll j“
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j“ can't help... j“
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ronstadt: American standards.
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J“ ...Loving that man of mine I
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ronstadt: But my grandmother
and grandfather
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were classical music devotees.
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So I would go over to their
house on Saturday morning
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and listen to a live broadcast
from the metropolitan opera
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and come home and my dad
would be playing Mexican songs
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on the piano.
My mom would be playing
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some Gilbert and Sullivan piece.
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J“ true peace of mind j“
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ronstadt:
My sister loved Hank Williams.
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She loved country music.
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J“ I can't help it j“
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j“ if I'm still in love
with you I
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my brother would be
singing really high soprano.
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He was in a world-class boys
choir and he was their soloist.
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She wanted to know how
to sing so I taught her.
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So she learned about vibrato
and all that kind of stuff
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when she was like five,
six years old.
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Linda ronstadt: We learned so
much about singing from each other.
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It was completely
incorporated into what we did.
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We sang at the dinner table,
we sang in the car,
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we sang with our hands
in the dishwater.
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I thought Spanish was this
magical musical language.
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When I was growing up
I thought people sang in Spanish
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and spoke in English.
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If you spoke Spanish on the
playground you'd be punished.
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You weren't allowed to do it.
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My sister and brother and I
eventually formed
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a little group.
We called ourselves
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the new union ramblers.
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We thought that sounded folky.
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Bobby kimmel was a guitar
player that I met in Tucson.
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He wrote songs
about his own life.
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I remember them being
one of the best vocal groups
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I had ever heard.
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Ronstadt:
Bobby joined our family group
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and then he and I used to play
as a duet sometimes.
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We played little clubs in Tucson
but there wasn't very much
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opportunity for us there.
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At some point reality stepped
in and my sister had three kids.
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And then my brother went to
work for the police department.
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Bobby wanted to earn
some money playing music.
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So he went off to California.
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And I was the last man standing.
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I all the leaves are brown J'
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kimmel: I went to la with the
intention of forming a band.
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When I saw the quality of the
singers that were out there
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I started writing
to Linda saying
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if you come out we could form
a band and get a record deal.
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Ronstadt: I knew they had more
clubs to play in Los Angeles.
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J“ California dreaming J“
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Pete ronstadt: I was telling her
this is kind of an iffy thing.
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You might starve to death
or you might find yourself
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washing dishes
and waiting tables
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before you ever get discovered.
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She says I'm willing
to take the chance.
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Linda ronstadt:
I was 18 years old.
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We had a house on the beach
for 80 bucks a month
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in Santa Monica.
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We split the rent three ways.
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It was just great.
It was right on the beach.
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Kimmel: Once she got there
we got to work right away
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and we used to practice
every day.
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Ronstadt: Bobby introduced me
to a really good guitar player
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named Kenny Edwards
and we formed a little band
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and we called ourselves
the stone poneys.
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J“ look out your window j“
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j“ the rain is turning
into snow j“
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we started playing
little beatnik dives
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and strange pizza parlors,
wherever we could get a job.
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J“ oh how you love me... I
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there was the trip where I heard
this band called the byrds.
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They had a light show
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and a lot of acid tripping
kind of stuff going on.
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The whiskey a go go
was very rock and roll.
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I heard the doors there
and I thought
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oh they're be a really hit band
if they get rid of their singer.
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J“ go, love
open up the door... j“
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ronstadt:
There was the ash grove.
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That was where you go
for authentic folk music.
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It's where I first
heard ry cooder.
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J“ have you seen
that vigilante man? J“
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ry cooder was then and now
the most amazing guitar player
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I've ever heard.
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I knew that had good musicians
in Los Angeles
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but this guy
is really something.
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I thought I'm staying here.
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I'm not going back
to Tucson to live.
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J“ all over the land I
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Ry cooder: She came
to Los Angeles at a time
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when the la rock and roll scene
was in gear and was going.
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Because, see, after
the byrds did their thing
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with Mr. Tambourine man,
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then the whole damn thing
broke loose
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and all the record companies
went scurrying around
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like headless chickens trying
to figure out what to do.
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Who can sing folk rock
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and how can we define what
this thing is going to be?
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J“ hey Mr. Tambourine man j'
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j“ play a song for me j“
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Don henley: There was a lot
of cross pollination
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that started happening
in the mid-60s, you know,
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country music and folk music
and rock music started
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commingling and blending and you
would get all these hybrids.
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TV anchor: The troubadour, just a
few blocks from Hollywood boulevard,
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is known as an avant garde cafe.
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It's the favorite of Hollywood's
young and young at heart.
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Ronstadt: The troubadour was
where everybody went to hang out
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and to be noticed.
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You wanted to make yourself
known to the record community at
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large, you go to the troubadour,
play an open mic night.
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Jd souther: I can't even name
all the great songwriters
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that came through there.
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I mean, Laura nyro, Neil young,
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joni Mitchell, Tim hardin,
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kris kristofferson, Rick Nelson,
Elton John,
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Jackson browne.
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It was just week after week
of amazing,
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game-changing songwriters.
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J“ some of them were dreamers j“
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j“ some of them were fools j“
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j“ who were making plans j“
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j“ and thinking of the future j“
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I mean, you tried to get a gig
at the troubadour.
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You wanted to play
the troubadour.
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All kinds of industry
people hung around in the bar.
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Robert hilburn: The troubadour
is important because
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that's where you can get seen.
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It was the place to play.
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Like the minor leagues
in baseball.
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This was your chance,
this was your great chance.
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David geffen: The troubadour
was a bustling place.
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They had a hootenanny night
where new artists would come
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and sing a few songs and I used
to go to every hootenanny night
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to see if there was anybody
really talented.
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Browne: The hoot, the Monday
night open mic hootenanny
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where you'd wait
and get on the list
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and you go up there
and sing your new song.
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Souther:
You got two or three songs.
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If you were no good you probably
didn't last the second song
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because were, "hey, get off!"
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And maybe not
even the first song.
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J“ oh, you and I, travel to the
beat of a different drum... j“
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ronstadt: I heard a song
called different drum
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by this bluegrass group
called the greenbriar boys.
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J“ every time you make... j“
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it was written by Mike nesmith
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who was eventually going
to join the monkees.
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J“ you cry and moan
and say it will work out j“
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I but honey child
I've got my doubts j“
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j“ you can't see the forest
for the trees j“
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j“ so don't get me wrong
it's not that I knock it j“
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j“ it's just that I am not
in the market I
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j“ for a boy who wants
to love only me j“
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ronstadt: We got an immediate
response from managers
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and people who were interested
in our career.
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Kimmel: Herb Cohen
was managing frank zappa.
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We had heard that he had
been a soldier of fortune.
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He may have killed somebody.
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He was a badass.
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But he was established
and he immediately said,
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"I can get you a record deal."
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J“ I believe
and I see no sense... I
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we recorded a few things,
just the three of us.
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Then he took those
to the people in power
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and said, "I want to
record these guys."
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Capitol said okay.
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We signed papers and we
were off and running.
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J“ live without me j“
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ronstadt: So we recorded it
with a mandolin
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and a couple of acoustic guitars
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and the record company
didn't like it.
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And so they said well come back,
we want to recut the song.
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Kimmel: Suddenly everything
changed in the studio.
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Ronstadt: They had a bunch
of strings in there
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and it was an orchestra
session. I went wait a minute,
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this isn't the way
I thought about the song.
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I said I don't want to put it
on the record because
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that wasn't the way
I'd originally envisioned it.
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J“ you and I count to the beat
of a different drum j“
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j“ oh can't you tell
by the way I run j“
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j“ every time
you make eyes at me j“
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ronstadt: It was a good thing
they didn't listen to me
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because it was a huge hit.
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Pete ronstadt: I'm driving
down the road, you know, in my car
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listening to ktkt radio
and all of a sudden
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she's singing different drum.
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I said wait a minute!
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Bonnie Raitt: I loved her
voice from the first time I heard her.
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I was a freshman in college.
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The stone poneys,
different drum.
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Yeah, baby!
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It was just like wow!
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It was just like to pull back
the covering
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of a fully developed
vocal stylist.
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J“ yes and I ain't sayin'
you ain't pretty j“
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j“ all I'm sayin' I'm not ready j“
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hilburn: Most of the time as
a critic you're sitting there saying,
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"we don't give the artist a plus
for this and a minus for this.
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This is kind of good,
that's not so good."
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Bang! It was like a home run.
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J“ goodbye! J“
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j“ ibelieve in a... j“
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kimmel: We were out on this tour
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and herby Cohen comes
to my hotel room and says,
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"I need to tell you that
when we get back to la,
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the band is breaking up."
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Everybody said, "I don't know
about you two guys
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but we want the girl singer."
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Ronstadt: The record company
wanted to develop me as a solo artist.
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Kenny decided to go off to India
and find a guru and meditate.
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And Bobby started a folk
club in la called McCabe's.
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And I was left with
what in the world to sing.
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I was by myself.
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A Harmony singer
with no material.
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Hilburn: The remarkable thing
about the stone poney days was
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she had the nerve
to leave a male band
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after it had already had a hit
and go on her own.
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Will you welcome please
Ms. Linda ronstadt?
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Ronstadt, ronstadt.
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Did anyone ever suggest that
that isn't the most musical name
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in the world?
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That maybe you should
change it to Linda Marlow or...
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Is there a Linda Marlow?
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And once they learn how
to pronounce my name,
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that leads to free-for-all
kinds of variations.
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Glenn Campbell once
called me Linda bedstead.
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You know, I remember you
when you were nothing
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but a little stone poney.
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Oh yeah?
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I didn't have any idea
what that means.
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I know that you were
part of a group, right?
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Let's see, how do I explain this
on television
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and not get yelled at.
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Cavett:
Oh, then maybe you don't.
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- I think I don't.
- Oh, yeah?
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0h, is it an inside meaning?
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Yeah, it has a
lot of different...
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J“ love will abide j“
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j“ take things in stride j“
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j“ sounds like good advice I
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j“ but there's no one
at my side j“
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j“ and time washes clean j“
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j“ love's wounds unseen j'
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j“ that's what someone
told me j“
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j“ but I don't know
what it means j“
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j“ 'cause I've j“
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j“ done everything I know j“
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j“ to try to make you mine j“
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j“ and I think it's gonna
hurt me j“
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j“ for a long, long time I
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j“ but I've done
everything I know I
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j“ to try to make you mine j“
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j“ think I'm gonna love you I
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I for a long, long time I
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I met her in the troubadour.
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She had this hit
called long, long time.
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Apparently she knew who I was
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based on a record I'd made
with Ricky Nelson.
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She said I like that band you
put together for Rick Nelson.
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Could you do that for me?
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I she's got everything
she needs I
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I she's an artist I
377
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I she don't look back I
378
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herby Cohen was the
manager when I met her.
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He gave me these tickets
to Hawaii
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for the capitol records
convention.
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Linda and I show up
at San Francisco airport
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to fly to Honolulu and lo
and behold there was the FBI
383
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to arrest us for receiving
stolen property.
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Turns out herby had bought
the tickets in the lobby
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of the building from some guy
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probably for 25 cents
on the dollar
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and they were hotter
than a two-dollar pistol.
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So we spent the day in jail.
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She fired herbie
and asked me to fill in.
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I I don't want
your lonely mansion I
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ronstadt: I was walking through
the troubadour one night
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on my way to the bathroom.
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This band Shiloh got up
and did my exact version
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of silver threads
and golden needles.
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I silver threads
and golden needles I
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I just went, "what?"
397
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Does, you know, that solo,
I thought, god!
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I was appalled that anyone
would actually sit down
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with one of my records
and learn the solo off it
400
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like a led zeppelin record.
401
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And I heard the drummer and I
thought he was really good.
402
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Hilburn: The drummer was
a guy named Don henley.
403
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Henley: Linda's first solo album
came out in '69
404
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and I moved to la
in June of 1970.
405
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So my timing was pretty good.
406
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Hilburn: She'd had a bunch
of dates back east
407
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and we needed to put
the band together quickly.
408
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So I hired him for $250 a week.
409
00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,282
I rescue me I
410
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I I want you in my arms I
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I rescue me I
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I I need your tender charm I
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I 'cause I'm lonely I
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henley: I knew who she was
because I had her album.
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I listened to that
album a hundred times.
416
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She could seem vulnerable
and very feminine
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but when she opened her mouth to
sing everything got different.
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It was just incredible.
419
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You knew that there was
a very solid core
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and a very determined woman.
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Souther: Just saw her walking
past me in the troubadour
422
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and she looked so cute.
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I just grabbed her by the hand
424
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and I said I think you should
cook me dinner.
425
00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:36,749
And she said okay and
gave me her phone number.
426
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So I called her a couple days
427
00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:41,062
and I said, "well, you gonna
cook me dinner?"
428
00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:42,886
She goes, "sure,
come on over." I came on over
429
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and she made me a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich.
430
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And I fell in love with her.
431
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Took her home and the next day
I said,
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"listen, let's go
get your stuff.
433
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You can live here with me."
434
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I I got a feeling called
the blues, oh lord I
435
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I since my baby said goodbye I
436
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,941
geffen: John David souther
and Linda ronstadt.
437
00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:03,192
They were a hot couple.
438
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I all I do is sit and cry
oh lord I
439
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:09,281
I that last long day
he said goodbye I
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jd had had a musical duo
with a guy named Glenn frey.
441
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Souther: He was my best friend
and first songwriting partner.
442
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We really did nothing but just
listen to music and play guitars
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and try to write songs and
then go to the troubadour.
444
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Ronstadt: Glenn frey played
pretty good guitar.
445
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So I went and talked to Glenn
and said,
446
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"do you want to do this
tour with me?"
447
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He said it would be really cool.
448
00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:38,519
He'd never been
on the road before.
449
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Henley: Glenn frey and I shared
the $12 hotel room
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with two twin beds in it.
451
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It was a very modest tour.
452
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I mean, I remember
being in station wagons.
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Ronstadt: Rooming together, Don
and Glenn each discovered
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that the other was a good singer
and songwriter.
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Hilburn: And that's when they
decided to get together and form a band.
456
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That band became the eagles.
457
00:25:06,463 --> 00:25:07,756
They wished us well.
458
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John was very supportive,
Linda was supportive
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and they basically said
just go for it.
460
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We didn't have much
success with desperado.
461
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:22,021
The record company didn't
know what to do with it.
462
00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:24,481
And then Linda
made it into a classic.
463
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I desperado I
464
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I why don't you come
to your senses I
465
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I come down from your fences I
466
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I and open the gate I
467
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I it may be raining I
468
00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:49,923
I but there's a rainbow
above you I
469
00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:54,678
I you better let somebody
love you I
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I I
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I let somebody love you I
472
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I before it is too I
473
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I late I
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Hilburn: I knew the Neil young
tour was coming
475
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and I thought this'll be
perfect for Linda
476
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because she had sung backup on
his big hit "heart of gold."
477
00:26:49,316 --> 00:26:52,111
So I called Neil's manager
and I said,
478
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:54,696
"listen, Linda's the right
opening act for this.
479
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You've got to help me out."
480
00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:58,492
And they said, "well,
Neil's gonna go out alone."
481
00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:01,787
I I want to live I
482
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,540
I I want to give I
483
00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:08,001
hilburn: Lo and behold like a
week later he called me and he said,
484
00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:10,045
"Neil's done a few dates
in Canada
485
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and it's getting him too tired.
486
00:27:12,214 --> 00:27:14,383
He now wants an
opening act and you're it."
487
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,885
I I never give... I
488
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:19,972
Linda was quite reluctant
at the time.
489
00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,933
She was so worried about the
idea of playing a huge
490
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,019
hockey arena tour at that
point in her career.
491
00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:29,398
But we persuaded her that
this would be a good thing.
492
00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:34,361
Ronstadt: Thank you!
493
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:38,282
Hilburn: You would occasionally
get somebody: "We want Neil!"
494
00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:42,578
But by the time the tour got
going, she was holding her own.
495
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,998
I I've been cheated I
496
00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,668
I been mistreated I
497
00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:55,424
I when will I be loved? I
498
00:27:57,634 --> 00:28:00,637
I I've been put down I
499
00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:04,391
I I've been pushed 'round I
500
00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:10,022
I when will I be loved? I
501
00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:15,235
I when I find a new man I
502
00:28:15,944 --> 00:28:18,572
I that I want for mine I
503
00:28:19,573 --> 00:28:22,868
I always breaks my heart
in two I
504
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:27,956
I it happens every time I
505
00:28:29,082 --> 00:28:30,834
I I've been... I
506
00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:34,171
Cameron Crowe: Here's Linda
who I'd never seen live before,
507
00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:37,716
big stage, sold out, huge place.
508
00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:42,221
She comes out there and starts
singing and that voice filled
509
00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:45,724
this arena where I had seen
concerts for a long time.
510
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,477
Nobody filled this arena with
a voice like Linda ronstadt.
511
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:50,729
And she just killed it.
512
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:55,108
She slaughtered this crowd
who didn't come to see her
513
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,319
but they sure left
knowing who she was.
514
00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:02,741
Hilburn:
We did 78 dates in 90 days.
515
00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:06,578
We played before 18,000 to
20,000 people every night.
516
00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:12,793
Ronstadt: We got to Houston
and there was this new girl singer.
517
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,211
Her name's emmylou.
518
00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:19,132
Emmylou Harris: It was 1973
during the one tour I did with gram.
519
00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:23,512
I Calliope calling
children are calling I
520
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:27,182
I in line to ride
on the merry-go-round I
521
00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:29,077
ronstadt: Emmy started singing
and three notes
522
00:29:29,101 --> 00:29:30,894
the entire place was dead quiet.
523
00:29:31,061 --> 00:29:33,522
It was like they had started
mass or something.
524
00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,608
And she was beautiful,
this girl with the long hair
525
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,360
and big brown eyes and I thought
526
00:29:38,527 --> 00:29:40,946
she's doing exactly
what I'm doing.
527
00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:42,489
She's doing it better.
528
00:29:42,656 --> 00:29:44,908
I do not worry
how it's done... I
529
00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:47,536
and for a minute I thought
well I can get jealous
530
00:29:47,703 --> 00:29:49,871
and then I won't be able
to enjoy her singing.
531
00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:52,207
Or I can just become
a slobbering, drooling fan
532
00:29:52,374 --> 00:29:54,251
like the rest of the people
in the club.
533
00:29:54,418 --> 00:29:56,920
And hope that maybe I
could get her to sing with me.
534
00:29:57,087 --> 00:30:00,173
So I chose the latter as one of
the best decisions I ever made.
535
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,927
And Emmy and I became immediate
music and social friends.
536
00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:11,310
Harris: Linda had a lot to do
with lifting me up
537
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:13,895
at a very, very low
time in my life.
538
00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:18,859
I had been kind of on my way
working with gram Parsons.
539
00:30:19,026 --> 00:30:21,194
I thought I'd found my voice,
540
00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:24,114
I had found something I love
to do singing with him.
541
00:30:24,281 --> 00:30:26,283
I love hurts I
542
00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:30,162
I love scars I
543
00:30:31,288 --> 00:30:32,998
on the road to getting
himself straight
544
00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:36,710
he was drinking a lot less,
he was loving the work,
545
00:30:36,877 --> 00:30:40,130
we loved singing together, we
had a record we'd just made,
546
00:30:40,297 --> 00:30:44,509
and apparently someone showed up
with heroin
547
00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:49,181
which he hadn't done
in a while and it killed him.
548
00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:53,435
It was devastating
to lose him like that.
549
00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:59,024
It was Linda who stepped up
as a friend
550
00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,109
and we had just met each other.
551
00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:05,614
She brought me out to la,
had me stay at her house
552
00:31:05,781 --> 00:31:07,783
and she talked about me
to everybody.
553
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:11,870
Said how great I was and
genuinely loved my singing.
554
00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:16,666
Genuinely made me feel like
I had something to offer
555
00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:20,462
at a very low time in my life.
556
00:31:21,463 --> 00:31:23,632
I love hurts I
557
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,803
I save me I
558
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:31,181
I free me I
559
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:34,351
I from love I
560
00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:36,895
I this time I
561
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:43,235
I well the train's gone I
562
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:46,780
I down the track I
563
00:31:46,947 --> 00:31:52,744
I and I'm I'm left behind I
564
00:31:55,205 --> 00:31:58,792
Karla bonoff: Linda was always
very tight with her girlfriends.
565
00:31:58,959 --> 00:32:01,169
They sang together, they
shared music together, she was
566
00:32:01,336 --> 00:32:03,130
supportive of me.
567
00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:08,051
I was writing songs and hoping
to make my own record
568
00:32:08,218 --> 00:32:11,596
but of course Linda was
really coming into her own
569
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,266
and starting to be
really successful.
570
00:32:16,226 --> 00:32:18,395
I think a songwriter
doing their songs is different
571
00:32:18,562 --> 00:32:20,689
than a singer do their songs.
572
00:32:20,856 --> 00:32:23,316
Some people prefer the
songwriter doing them, some
573
00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:26,153
people prefer Linda doing them.
574
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:27,863
But "lose again"
she definitely made
575
00:32:28,029 --> 00:32:29,781
into a bigger song.
576
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,327
I but nothing can save me I
577
00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,413
I from this I ball and chain I
578
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,020
because I couldn't
sing it like that.
579
00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:40,417
I I made up my mind I
580
00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:45,172
I I would leave today I
581
00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:49,676
I mean Linda came out and turned
it into this power ballad.
582
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:52,345
I I know it's insane I
583
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:54,806
I because I love you I
584
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:59,186
I and lose again I
585
00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:03,023
I oh, I love you I
586
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:08,111
I and lose again I
587
00:33:15,744 --> 00:33:18,830
Bonoff: Back then there wasn't
competition with women.
588
00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,499
So I think, you know, women,
589
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:22,125
there weren't that
many of us either.
590
00:33:22,292 --> 00:33:25,420
So I think there was a certain
amount of banding together
591
00:33:25,587 --> 00:33:27,964
to sort of share
our woman part of it.
592
00:33:28,131 --> 00:33:29,966
This is a song
off our new album.
593
00:33:31,593 --> 00:33:34,262
It's about a real special
place called home.
594
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:37,349
That's a Karla bonoff song.
595
00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:41,436
Bonoff: I had made a demo of
home and we sent it off to Bonnie,
596
00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,856
just a complete long shot,
and she decided to record it.
597
00:33:45,065 --> 00:33:47,526
I traveling at night I
598
00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,862
I the headlights were bright I
599
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:54,950
I and soon the sun came
through the trees I
600
00:33:56,993 --> 00:33:59,829
I around the next bend I
601
00:33:59,996 --> 00:34:02,791
I the flowers will send I
602
00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:07,254
I the sweet smell of home
in the breeze I
603
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:10,298
Raitt: Linda and I are like
sisters, around the same age
604
00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,300
and we were coming up
and had the same mutual
605
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:14,219
other musician friends
and band members
606
00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:17,889
and, you know,
it was a community of artists,
607
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:21,476
it wasn't sexually divided
between just the women and men.
608
00:34:21,643 --> 00:34:23,353
We weren't thinking
in terms of that.
609
00:34:24,437 --> 00:34:27,649
Crowe: Linda and Bonnie Raitt
were two of the first women
610
00:34:27,816 --> 00:34:30,735
that I was able to see
as a young journalist
611
00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,780
and study the way they operated
in this community.
612
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,634
We're going to move into this
world where we're running bands
613
00:34:36,658 --> 00:34:39,953
with guys in them but we can
also look after each other.
614
00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:44,124
Raitt: I said if I can have it
on my terms and you understand
615
00:34:44,291 --> 00:34:48,128
I'm not going to be told how to
dress or what music to make.
616
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:49,671
Great!
617
00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:52,382
We were all throwing away all
those conventions, you know.
618
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:57,238
Ronstadt: The rock and roll culture
is so male dominated and it also seems
619
00:34:57,262 --> 00:35:00,599
to be dominated by sort of
hostility against women.
620
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,684
That this sort of...
621
00:35:04,394 --> 00:35:09,524
Sort of sexual identity that is
sort of used as a weapon
622
00:35:09,691 --> 00:35:11,693
against the populace
and women in particular
623
00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:13,737
and then everyone
identifies with it.
624
00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:16,865
And it's sort of sad to me
because what happens is that...
625
00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:23,121
Is that rock and roll stars
end up isolating themselves
626
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,957
more and more and more, thereby
increasing their own feelings of
627
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:29,502
alienation and anxiety and they
wonder why they're so miserable.
628
00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:33,173
That's really when they turn to
drugs and destroy themselves.
629
00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:35,842
It's just very silly.
It just seems very silly.
630
00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:42,182
They lose the ability to focus
on themselves as a person
631
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:46,645
rather than as an image and
that's very dangerous I think.
632
00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:49,481
And there are always a lot
of people around them,
633
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:54,194
managers and scene makers,
you know, groupies and whatever,
634
00:35:54,361 --> 00:35:57,113
that are willing to indulge
them in anything they want.
635
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,950
It weakens them,
it weakens them as people
636
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,411
and it eventually weakens
them as musicians.
637
00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:08,833
I ibeen warped by the rain I
638
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,418
I driven by the snow I
639
00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:12,420
I I'm drunk and dirty I
640
00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:13,797
I don't you know I
641
00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:15,674
I but I'm still I
642
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:19,219
I willin' I
643
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,391
I out on the road
late last night I
644
00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:28,395
I I'd see my pretty Alice
in every headlight I
645
00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:30,271
I Alice I
646
00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:33,358
I Dallas Alice I
647
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:38,071
I and I've been from Tucson
to tucumcari I
648
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:41,741
I tehachapi to tonopah I
649
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:46,538
I driven every kind of rig
that's ever been made I
650
00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:49,666
Peter Asher: I was in New York
and somebody said
651
00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:51,835
you have to go see this girl,
she's amazing.
652
00:36:52,001 --> 00:36:54,129
She's one of the best singers
you'll ever hear,
653
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:55,714
she's brilliant.
654
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:59,217
She's incredibly great looking,
she sings barefoot
655
00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:02,804
and will knock you out in every
respect and she did.
656
00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:09,477
I whites and wine I
657
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,523
I and you show me a sign I
658
00:37:14,149 --> 00:37:15,734
I and I'll be willin' I
659
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,236
I was running
the Beatles record label apple.
660
00:37:18,403 --> 00:37:20,963
When apple started to fall apart
and the Beatles were breaking up
661
00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:23,992
and all of that
I went to america
662
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,952
and there I was being a manager.
663
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:29,873
Hilburn: I wanted to go back
to work as a record producer
664
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,167
so I suggested Linda go
and meet with Peter
665
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,170
which we did and he agreed
to manage her.
666
00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:38,323
Browne:
There was a high bar there.
667
00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:40,067
Peter Asher had hung
around with the Beatles.
668
00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:43,219
He expected to make records
that are huge successes
669
00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:45,472
and he was poised to do that
with Linda
670
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,932
and geffen was ready to be
their record company
671
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:49,684
that would be there.
672
00:37:52,645 --> 00:37:55,165
David geffen: I started asylum
records and signed Jackson browne
673
00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:59,027
and then started signing other
artists and it turned into what it did.
674
00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,118
And I knew when I saw Linda
and the stone poneys
675
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,218
that she was gonna make it
and she was gonna make it
676
00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:09,913
as a solo artist and I knew she
was going to be a big star.
677
00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:12,248
She didn't think so.
678
00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:15,543
She had very little
confidence in those days.
679
00:38:17,837 --> 00:38:19,631
Linda was feeling like
she wasn't good enough
680
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:21,341
to be on asylum records.
681
00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,845
I said to her that
that was crazy.
682
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,557
Ronstadt: I'm never really
satisfied with what I do.
683
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:32,016
And lots of times I hear
that I did something wrong
684
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:34,521
and it bothers me,
it can ruin my day really.
685
00:38:34,896 --> 00:38:38,066
Asher: Linda never thought she
was as good as she was
686
00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:40,693
and that is an interesting
paradox
687
00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:42,987
because she's confident
about her ideas
688
00:38:43,154 --> 00:38:45,824
but not about herself
and not about her singing.
689
00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:50,787
My involvement as a producer
with Linda came when she was
690
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:54,457
having trouble finishing the
album that became don't cry now.
691
00:38:55,124 --> 00:38:58,086
And that's when we decided that
the next album I would produce
692
00:38:58,253 --> 00:38:59,462
was heart like a wheel.
693
00:38:59,629 --> 00:39:04,467
I some say a heart
is just like a wheel I
694
00:39:04,634 --> 00:39:06,636
I when you bend it I
695
00:39:06,803 --> 00:39:08,429
I you can't mend it I
696
00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:11,724
ronstadt: The mcgarrigle sisters,
who were these two Canadian sisters,
697
00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:13,309
they were in an odd category.
698
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,937
They didn't fit in pop music,
they didn't fit in folk music,
699
00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:18,940
they didn't fit anywhere
except they fit in my heart.
700
00:39:19,107 --> 00:39:20,387
We just heard
heart like a wheel,
701
00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:22,151
then I went I have to sing it.
702
00:39:23,236 --> 00:39:26,698
I when harm is done I
703
00:39:26,948 --> 00:39:30,159
I no love can be won I
704
00:39:30,326 --> 00:39:33,621
I I know it happens I
705
00:39:33,788 --> 00:39:36,875
I frequently I
706
00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:40,086
I but I can't... I
707
00:39:40,253 --> 00:39:44,549
parton: Linda has the ability
to hear a song and claim it.
708
00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,759
You claim it as your own
as a singer.
709
00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:49,721
If you love it like that
you get inside it.
710
00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,180
You become it.
711
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:58,688
I but my love for you
is like a sinking ship I
712
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:07,230
I and my heart is on that ship
out in mid-ocean I
713
00:40:10,992 --> 00:40:12,928
Asher: Heart like a wheel,
she discovered that song,
714
00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:14,232
brought it to me and I loved it.
715
00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:16,748
I thought it was beautiful
but I was also thinking
716
00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,416
in terms of we should
make some hits.
717
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,084
I feelin' better I
718
00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:22,378
I now that we 're through I
719
00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,631
I feelin' better I
720
00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,466
I 'cause I'm over you I
721
00:40:26,633 --> 00:40:28,444
ronstadt: I'm a ballad singer,
I like to sing ballads best
722
00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:31,095
but we needed some up-tempo
songs for the record
723
00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:32,931
and as an afterthought
I had this song
724
00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:35,433
that we'd used
to close the show.
725
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,268
I you're no good
you're no good I
726
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:41,147
I you're no good
baby, you're no good I
727
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,816
I I'm gonna say it again I
728
00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:46,027
I you're no good
you're no good I
729
00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:50,239
I you're no good
baby, you're no good I
730
00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,177
Asher: She knew and loved the
song, I knew and loved the song,
731
00:40:53,201 --> 00:40:56,245
and we decided to do
a version of that song.
732
00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:03,127
I stayed up all night assembling
this very complicated,
733
00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:06,255
intricate layered guitar piece.
734
00:41:06,673 --> 00:41:10,051
We worked very long into
like the next afternoon.
735
00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:12,971
And that's when Linda turned up
and didn't like it.
736
00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:17,183
She said, "oh, I don't like it.
It sounds like the Beatles,"
737
00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:18,710
which it did sound
like the Beatles
738
00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:20,353
but in the end she came around
and said,
739
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,647
"you know what, I was wrong.
It's great."
740
00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:39,330
I I'm tellin' you now baby
and I'm going my way
741
00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:44,711
I forget about you, baby
'cause I'm leaving to stay
742
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:46,438
ronstadt: Every song
that I sing has a face
743
00:41:46,462 --> 00:41:48,172
that I sing it to, you know.
744
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:52,677
And so when something
happens to me,
745
00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,554
it's really funny,
I know so many songs.
746
00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:56,180
When something happens to me
747
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:57,932
the song will occur
at the same time.
748
00:41:58,099 --> 00:42:00,101
I'll think oh, this song
or that song, you know.
749
00:42:00,268 --> 00:42:02,037
And if it's a song I can sing
then I'll have to sing it,
750
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:04,897
I'll just burn to sing it.
I can't not sing it.
751
00:42:05,064 --> 00:42:08,901
I ipassed you on the street I
752
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,364
I and my heart
fell at your feet I
753
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:15,616
I I can't help it I
754
00:42:15,783 --> 00:42:20,455
I if I'm still
in love with you I
755
00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:24,208
we would make the assumption
that I was choosing the songs
756
00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:26,627
that we would do on these
records or that I was working
757
00:42:26,794 --> 00:42:29,005
out the arrangements
or this, that, and the other.
758
00:42:29,172 --> 00:42:30,798
And I would have to keep
explaining that
759
00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,551
it was Linda and me
in that order.
760
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:37,972
I still in love with you I
761
00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:41,783
ronstadt: My sister used to play
all these Hank Williams records.
762
00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:44,187
So I thought I can do that.
763
00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:48,608
I came slowly stealing I
764
00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:51,903
I as I brushed your arm I
765
00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:55,656
I and stood so close to you... I
766
00:42:55,823 --> 00:42:57,784
souther: Linda knew a good song
767
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:59,720
and she knew why it was good
and better than that
768
00:42:59,744 --> 00:43:01,664
she knew how to sing it
better than you can sing.
769
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:06,250
When you become that sharp
of a song stylist,
770
00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,128
you get authorship
in a certain way.
771
00:43:09,295 --> 00:43:11,714
I consider her a real author.
772
00:43:11,881 --> 00:43:15,343
She didn't write songs
but she made songs happen
773
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:16,886
the way she wanted to hear them.
774
00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:22,100
I I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you I
775
00:43:22,642 --> 00:43:24,802
ronstadt: I can't help it
if I'm still in love with you
776
00:43:24,852 --> 00:43:26,604
was a hit on the country charts.
777
00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:30,525
You're no good was a hit on both
the R&B chart and the pop chart.
778
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,153
So I became the first artist to
have a hit on all three charts
779
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,780
at the same time.
780
00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:43,913
Crowe: Heart like a wheel was
a huge turning point for her.
781
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:49,794
The avalanche of success
was hitting everywhere.
782
00:43:50,086 --> 00:43:52,505
She was at the forefront
of a kind of pop stardom
783
00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:55,133
that hadn't happened
at that point
784
00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:59,554
but people didn't notice the
difficulty of being a woman,
785
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,516
trailblazing and having
the success of a Mick Jagger.
786
00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:16,737
I people try to rape me
always thinking I'm crazy I
787
00:44:16,904 --> 00:44:19,991
I make me burn the candle
right down I
788
00:44:21,576 --> 00:44:23,369
I baby I
789
00:44:23,828 --> 00:44:25,663
I I can't stay I
790
00:44:26,038 --> 00:44:29,250
I don't need no jewels
in my crown I
791
00:44:30,042 --> 00:44:32,587
I 'cause all you women I
792
00:44:32,753 --> 00:44:34,964
I are low down gamblers I
793
00:44:35,131 --> 00:44:37,341
ronstadt: Now I had gigs
like in big sporting arenas,
794
00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:39,552
you know,
stadiums and stuff like that.
795
00:44:39,969 --> 00:44:42,138
I knew the name of every
arena in the country.
796
00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:44,223
We got a gig tonight
at the spectrum in Philly.
797
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:45,390
We'll be at the forum.
798
00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:46,702
Gig tomorrow night
at the garden.
799
00:44:46,726 --> 00:44:47,518
That's where we played.
800
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,061
She was selling them all out.
801
00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:50,730
I this low down bitchin' I
802
00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:53,357
I got my poor feet a itchin' I
803
00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:56,235
I can you see
the deuce is still wild I
804
00:44:56,402 --> 00:44:57,653
geffen: She was very good.
805
00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:58,820
Audience loved her.
806
00:44:58,946 --> 00:44:59,989
Records sold.
807
00:45:00,156 --> 00:45:02,909
She was on an uphill swing
all the time.
808
00:45:03,075 --> 00:45:04,952
I got to roll me I
809
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:09,498
I call me the tumblin' dice I
810
00:45:12,335 --> 00:45:13,878
browne:
When we did that tour together
811
00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:16,172
we'd take turns
closing and opening.
812
00:45:18,216 --> 00:45:21,260
You know. Try following
Linda ronstadt every night.
813
00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:25,056
I honey got no money I
814
00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:28,851
I sixes and sevens and nines I
815
00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:33,314
I hey now baby
I'm the rank outsider I
816
00:45:33,481 --> 00:45:35,542
Raitt: I went to go see her
at the universal amphitheater
817
00:45:35,566 --> 00:45:37,318
when she was wearing
her boy scouts outfit
818
00:45:37,485 --> 00:45:38,945
and was just rocking.
819
00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:41,948
I baby... I
820
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,575
bonoff: Linda was able to be
really feminine and sexy
821
00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:49,330
in this world of men and somehow
hold onto herself and do that
822
00:45:49,497 --> 00:45:52,291
and use that in the
best possible way.
823
00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:07,223
Wachtel: There was a lot of
dudes running around the stages then.
824
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:10,476
But we were on the road
with Linda and killing it.
825
00:46:10,643 --> 00:46:11,763
She was killing every night.
826
00:46:11,894 --> 00:46:14,355
I the tumbling dice I
827
00:46:15,523 --> 00:46:17,275
I you got to roll me I
828
00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:19,503
I know they liked my singing
and I know they were proud
829
00:46:19,527 --> 00:46:21,821
of what they were doing
but still in rock and roll
830
00:46:21,988 --> 00:46:24,407
the idea that you're actually
working for a chick singer,
831
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:26,993
in their way they sort of
saw it as not as cool
832
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:28,762
as if they were their own
rock and roll band
833
00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:30,329
and they were just all the guys.
834
00:46:32,123 --> 00:46:35,543
I baby, baby got to roll me I
835
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:37,670
bonoff: There weren't a lot
of women musicians
836
00:46:37,837 --> 00:46:40,256
so it was always a band of guys.
837
00:46:40,423 --> 00:46:43,551
There weren't women bass players
and women guitar players
838
00:46:43,718 --> 00:46:47,305
and sometimes some of these
guys were, they were tough.
839
00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,513
Ronstadt: I got a lot tougher
and more foul mouthed.
840
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:52,643
I used to swear a lot.
841
00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:54,246
I mean, I used to talk
like a truck driver.
842
00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,647
When I think about the way
I used to talk, I'm shocked.
843
00:47:00,026 --> 00:47:02,486
Without having any other
girls along on the road,
844
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:05,489
just automatically
you start to imitate them.
845
00:47:08,868 --> 00:47:12,079
Harris: Linda was never
comfortable being on the road
846
00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:17,126
but obviously she did her job
and part of her loved it.
847
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:18,544
Who wouldn't love it?
848
00:47:18,711 --> 00:47:21,047
But I think there was another
part of her that went,
849
00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:23,341
"you know,
this doesn't feel right."
850
00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:26,653
Ronstadt: If I were going to
choose something to do
851
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,613
it would not be to stand up
in front of a lot of people.
852
00:47:28,637 --> 00:47:30,181
But I love to sing,
I love to sing.
853
00:47:30,348 --> 00:47:32,617
I love music so at some point
you do whatever you have to do
854
00:47:32,641 --> 00:47:34,268
to do music.
855
00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:38,564
Asher: She would confess to me
that if she saw people in the front row
856
00:47:38,731 --> 00:47:42,109
and somebody leans over
and says something to the person
857
00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:45,571
next to them, she thought they
were saying, you know,
858
00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:47,615
she's the worst singer
I've ever heard.
859
00:47:47,782 --> 00:47:49,116
I don't like this.
860
00:47:49,450 --> 00:47:51,118
She really believed that.
861
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:55,164
Wachtel: You get on the bus at
night, card game going on,
862
00:47:55,331 --> 00:47:57,166
everybody blasting music
863
00:47:57,333 --> 00:47:59,460
or everyone else drinking,
you know.
864
00:47:59,627 --> 00:48:01,379
A lot of drugs around.
865
00:48:02,046 --> 00:48:04,423
A lot of people would go on
stage completely hammered,
866
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:06,175
completely fucking hammered.
867
00:48:06,342 --> 00:48:09,970
Raitt: Everybody was up at night
and when the gig ended
868
00:48:10,137 --> 00:48:12,014
you don't go home and have milk.
869
00:48:13,641 --> 00:48:17,019
It was kind of the nighttime
danger fun part about
870
00:48:17,186 --> 00:48:18,729
not having to go to bed.
871
00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:20,731
You know, Keith Richards
can do it, so can I.
872
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:23,526
Linda's thing was diet pills.
873
00:48:25,152 --> 00:48:27,321
Asher: She went through a phase
mostly taking speed
874
00:48:27,488 --> 00:48:30,032
and not eating and being
super skinny.
875
00:48:30,825 --> 00:48:33,953
Ronstadt: It seemed like it was
so hard to be out there day after day
876
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,080
and to try to get up the energy
to sort of do that
877
00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:39,041
when you were just wrung out
878
00:48:39,208 --> 00:48:42,169
from the sense of being
dislocated from place.
879
00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:46,799
I was with a bunch of people
that were basically earnest
880
00:48:46,966 --> 00:48:48,175
and basically honest
881
00:48:48,342 --> 00:48:50,970
and the kind of paranoia
that was introduced by drugs
882
00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:53,017
was so destructive in our
ability to communicate
883
00:48:53,139 --> 00:48:53,889
with each other.
884
00:48:54,056 --> 00:48:55,975
That really saddened me.
885
00:48:56,142 --> 00:48:59,478
And then at some point
we all just stopped.
886
00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:05,443
I I feel so bad I
887
00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:08,863
I I got a worried mind I
888
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,949
I I'm so lonesome I
889
00:49:12,116 --> 00:49:13,909
I all the time I
890
00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:19,373
I since I left my baby behind I
891
00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:22,001
I on blue bayou I
892
00:49:26,046 --> 00:49:30,259
I saving nickels saving dimes I
893
00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:35,306
I workin' 'til
the sun don't shine I
894
00:49:36,515 --> 00:49:40,603
I looking forward
to happier times I
895
00:49:40,769 --> 00:49:43,314
I on blue bayou I
896
00:49:45,483 --> 00:49:48,402
I I'm going back someday I
897
00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:50,821
I come what may I
898
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:54,575
I to blue bayou I
899
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:58,704
I where the folks are fine I
900
00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:01,707
I and the world is mine I
901
00:50:01,874 --> 00:50:04,835
I on blue bayou I
902
00:50:05,794 --> 00:50:09,048
Crowe: When rolling stone was
ready to put Linda ronstadt on the cover
903
00:50:09,215 --> 00:50:12,510
that was her absolute peak
up until then.
904
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,180
I if I could only see I
905
00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:19,183
generally it was a very
male-orientated
906
00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:21,769
denim-clad warrior cover.
907
00:50:23,521 --> 00:50:25,397
So here comes Linda ronstadt
908
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:29,360
and she and Annie leibovitz
put together this photo session
909
00:50:29,527 --> 00:50:31,612
that was like no other
cover that had been
910
00:50:31,779 --> 00:50:33,656
on rolling stone before.
911
00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:37,618
She was honest
912
00:50:40,454 --> 00:50:42,623
and opened her heart.
913
00:50:43,457 --> 00:50:47,545
She said, "this gets lonely and
I don't know where it ends up.
914
00:50:47,836 --> 00:50:49,547
It's an emotional journey
915
00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:51,590
and I'm happy that I brought
this kind of joy.
916
00:50:51,757 --> 00:50:53,237
But you know what?
When I'm here alone
917
00:50:53,342 --> 00:50:57,096
in this Malibu home that looks
very cozy, it's lonely."
918
00:50:58,222 --> 00:51:00,902
Ronstadt: There's a lot of show
business people down here, you know.
919
00:51:00,933 --> 00:51:02,685
It's not my style exactly.
920
00:51:02,851 --> 00:51:05,396
Interviewer:
Where did you live before?
921
00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:08,440
Nowhere really. I was on the
road for about ten years
922
00:51:08,607 --> 00:51:11,527
and I didn't exactly have
a home.
923
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:16,949
I on blue bayou I
924
00:51:31,797 --> 00:51:34,300
Announcer: Singing the national
anthem here at dodger stadium,
925
00:51:34,466 --> 00:51:36,385
Ms. Linda ronstadt.
926
00:51:40,681 --> 00:51:43,100
I oh, say can you see? I
927
00:51:43,267 --> 00:51:46,604
Patricia casado: I remember
my dad was watching her at the game.
928
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:48,856
She sang the national anthem.
929
00:51:49,273 --> 00:51:53,277
I what so proudly we hailed I
930
00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,029
I at the twilight's... I
931
00:51:55,195 --> 00:51:56,655
all of sudden there she is.
932
00:51:56,822 --> 00:51:59,533
She'd come in the limo straight
to the restaurant from the game
933
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:01,243
to have something to eat.
934
00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:05,539
My parents had a small
restaurant on Melrose Avenue
935
00:52:05,706 --> 00:52:08,792
across the street from what
was then khj radio
936
00:52:08,959 --> 00:52:11,128
which was the radio
station in the day.
937
00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:14,673
Linda walked in and my dad
was wearing a shirt
938
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,509
that we call in Mexico
a guayabera
939
00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:20,971
and it has four pockets
and it's white and she said,
940
00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,264
"this is a good place
941
00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:24,516
because he's wearing
the shirt my dad wears."
942
00:52:25,351 --> 00:52:27,537
Hilburn: A lot of the people
who hung out at the troubadour
943
00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:29,438
also ate at Lucy's.
944
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:33,400
Lucy was very shall we say
loose with the check
945
00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:35,986
now and again
and if we were on hard times.
946
00:52:37,071 --> 00:52:40,282
Casado: Our customers were not
just soon-to-be celebrities
947
00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:43,702
of the industries, they were the
old guard of Los Angeles.
948
00:52:43,869 --> 00:52:46,372
I mean, you're talking
old-school money.
949
00:52:47,873 --> 00:52:49,601
There was a big
communal table that my father
950
00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:50,876
used to sit everybody at.
951
00:52:51,043 --> 00:52:53,021
So you'd sit with policemen,
you'd sit with firemen,
952
00:52:53,045 --> 00:52:55,464
sometimes you'd sit with an
actor, sometimes you'd sit...
953
00:52:55,631 --> 00:52:58,217
A football player. You never
had any idea who you'd sit with.
954
00:52:58,384 --> 00:53:01,345
What happened was Linda
had decided
955
00:53:01,512 --> 00:53:03,347
that she wanted to change
the 8-track
956
00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,824
because she wanted to hear
something else.
957
00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:08,185
So she had to step up
on this little wine rack
958
00:53:08,352 --> 00:53:11,355
and at that moment the governor
Jerry brown comes in
959
00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:15,401
that room and he sees her
and it was like wow!
960
00:53:15,567 --> 00:53:16,777
Who's she?
961
00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:20,989
So my father went
and he sat them together.
962
00:53:22,366 --> 00:53:23,992
And, well,
he fell in love with her.
963
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:25,828
There was no question
about that.
964
00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:28,431
Ronstadt:
Jerry likes passionate music.
965
00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:30,416
He likes passionate music,
passionate women,
966
00:53:30,582 --> 00:53:31,917
that's his deal.
967
00:53:32,501 --> 00:53:34,461
We had a really
good time together.
968
00:53:36,964 --> 00:53:39,359
He went out to run for president
for the last couple of months
969
00:53:39,383 --> 00:53:42,302
and pending for the fact that
I got to see him on TV
970
00:53:42,469 --> 00:53:44,555
I may have forgot
what he looked like.
971
00:53:47,141 --> 00:53:48,559
But he came back yesterday.
972
00:53:48,726 --> 00:53:50,046
He's gonna make it
all better now.
973
00:53:53,439 --> 00:53:54,982
That's what he told me anyway.
974
00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:56,817
I have yet to see.
975
00:53:57,192 --> 00:54:00,571
I my boyfriend's back
and you're gonna be trouble I
976
00:54:00,738 --> 00:54:03,991
I hey now, hey now
my boyfriend's back I
977
00:54:04,158 --> 00:54:05,743
I when you see him coming... I
978
00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:07,512
hose did you have much of a
problem when you're with Jerry brown
979
00:54:07,536 --> 00:54:10,164
people expecting you
to have political views
980
00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:12,708
along the lines of
governor brown?
981
00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:15,294
Whereas you're a
singer, he's a politician.
982
00:54:15,461 --> 00:54:17,061
Our relationship
was completely personal,
983
00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:18,251
it wasn't political at all.
984
00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,507
So, you know, he did politics,
I did music.
985
00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:22,968
- Right.
- It's easy to separate that.
986
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,262
You went to South Africa
recently.
987
00:54:25,429 --> 00:54:27,723
Did you receive criticism
for going there?
988
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:29,933
As far as I was concerned
it was just a gig.
989
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,140
I don't think that if you
disagree with the policies
990
00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:34,480
of the government, which I do
very definitely disagree
991
00:54:34,646 --> 00:54:36,606
with the policies of the
South African government,
992
00:54:36,732 --> 00:54:38,251
I don't think that's enough
of a reason not to go
993
00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:39,651
and play music there.
994
00:54:39,818 --> 00:54:42,178
If I did that I wouldn't be able
to play in the united state
995
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:44,424
because I don't agree with their
policies about nuclear power,
996
00:54:44,448 --> 00:54:45,783
nuclear warfare.
997
00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:48,660
I mean, my god, we've got this
person running the country
998
00:54:48,827 --> 00:54:50,370
that I completely disagree with.
999
00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:52,915
If I decided that I wasn't
going to play where attitudes
1000
00:54:53,081 --> 00:54:56,627
of racism prevailed, I certainly
couldn't play in Australia
1001
00:54:56,794 --> 00:55:00,506
or england or lots of places
in the United States,
1002
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:02,841
a lot of places in the American
south or Boston
1003
00:55:03,008 --> 00:55:04,468
which is extremely racist.
1004
00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:07,429
I went to South Africa, it has a
fascist repressive government.
1005
00:55:07,596 --> 00:55:09,240
I'm very interested in
the culture down there.
1006
00:55:09,264 --> 00:55:10,464
You just got finished talking.
1007
00:55:10,516 --> 00:55:12,396
You say why does anyone
think I'm controversial.
1008
00:55:12,476 --> 00:55:14,478
Do you realized what
you've just talked about here?
1009
00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,885
We've just received all your
political views in one blow.
1010
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:18,899
I'm teasing.
I'm not putting it down.
1011
00:55:19,066 --> 00:55:21,266
I don't think my political
views are very controversial.
1012
00:55:21,401 --> 00:55:23,278
Who likes nuclear warfare?
1013
00:55:23,445 --> 00:55:26,031
I remember her having the wall
street journal in her bag
1014
00:55:26,198 --> 00:55:29,076
one time in the 705 when she was
dating Jerry and I went,
1015
00:55:29,243 --> 00:55:32,246
you know, I had thought she was
really smart but she's really
1016
00:55:32,412 --> 00:55:35,332
well read and very, very up
on a lot of different things.
1017
00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:40,087
She's as wide ranging in her
critical intellectual pursuits
1018
00:55:40,254 --> 00:55:43,507
as she is in her music pursuits
and you don't find that kind
1019
00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:47,052
of depth and eclecticism
in pop music.
1020
00:55:48,637 --> 00:55:53,350
Casado: Jerry needed somebody
that could be full-time there for him.
1021
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:56,562
You couldn't have two careers
in that family.
1022
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:59,606
I I never will marry... I
1023
00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:01,024
there's not enough time.
1024
00:56:01,191 --> 00:56:04,111
I I'll be no man's wife I
1025
00:56:04,862 --> 00:56:07,865
I I intend to stay single I
1026
00:56:09,116 --> 00:56:12,119
I for the rest of my life I
1027
00:56:12,578 --> 00:56:15,205
bonoff: I mean, the same
reason I never got married.
1028
00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:17,716
I don't know, I think
it's hard being a woman
1029
00:56:17,791 --> 00:56:19,042
in the music business.
1030
00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:22,504
You know,
it's a different kind of life.
1031
00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:25,132
I rushing waters I
1032
00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:29,428
I went over my head I
1033
00:56:29,636 --> 00:56:31,823
Raitt: Well you don't need to
get married, you what I mean?
1034
00:56:31,847 --> 00:56:33,765
It's like we have our own income
1035
00:56:33,932 --> 00:56:36,977
and you don't have to have
the state verify
1036
00:56:37,144 --> 00:56:38,520
that you love somebody
1037
00:56:38,687 --> 00:56:40,564
and when that relationship's
over you leave.
1038
00:56:40,731 --> 00:56:42,531
Neither one of us are
really made for marriage
1039
00:56:42,566 --> 00:56:45,277
or I think long-term
relationships.
1040
00:56:45,944 --> 00:56:47,321
Interviewer:
Why did you break up?
1041
00:56:47,487 --> 00:56:50,073
I can't remember.
Maybe she could tell you.
1042
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,994
I it's so easy to fall in love I
1043
00:56:54,369 --> 00:56:58,123
I it's so easy to fall in love I
1044
00:56:58,916 --> 00:57:02,336
I people tell me
love's for fools I
1045
00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:06,506
I but here I go
breaking all the rules I
1046
00:57:06,673 --> 00:57:08,425
I seems so easy... I
1047
00:57:08,592 --> 00:57:12,095
ronstadt: My mom wanted to
be a scientist but she had four kids
1048
00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:15,265
and I think it was also a little
bit of a disappointment.
1049
00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:17,726
I it's so easy
to fall in love... I
1050
00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:20,562
she always said to me
go out and have a life.
1051
00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:23,357
You don't just have to get
married, there are alternatives.
1052
00:57:23,523 --> 00:57:27,110
I it's so easy to fall in love I
1053
00:57:27,611 --> 00:57:31,156
I it's so easy to fall in love I
1054
00:57:32,824 --> 00:57:35,953
I have to confess, I got a
really bad crush on this guy.
1055
00:57:37,204 --> 00:57:39,873
We had a little romance for a
while but it wasn't long lived.
1056
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,833
He dumped me for this pig.
1057
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,336
Well, at least
I got his picture.
1058
00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:48,715
I does he love me? I
1059
00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:50,968
I I want to know I
1060
00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:54,554
I how can I tell
if he loves me so? I
1061
00:57:54,721 --> 00:57:56,515
I is it in his eyes? I
1062
00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:58,684
I oh no, you make believe I
1063
00:57:58,850 --> 00:58:00,811
I is it in his size I
1064
00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:02,896
I oh no you'll be deceived I
1065
00:58:03,063 --> 00:58:06,900
I if you want to know
if he loves you so I
1066
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:08,735
I it's in his kiss I
1067
00:58:08,902 --> 00:58:10,612
I that's where it is I
1068
00:58:11,029 --> 00:58:14,533
announcer: To present
the nominees for favorite female
1069
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:19,871
in rock and pop are Teddy
pendergrass and Tanya Tucker.
1070
00:58:20,205 --> 00:58:22,457
The nominees are:
Linda ronstadt.
1071
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:27,421
Ms. Barbra Streisand.
1072
00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:31,258
And Donna summer.
1073
00:58:32,676 --> 00:58:33,676
You open the envelope.
1074
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:34,928
I'm too nervous.
1075
00:58:35,095 --> 00:58:37,347
I'll do the gentlemanly
thing here and I'll open it.
1076
00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,850
- If you will read.
- Okay. And the winner is...
1077
00:58:40,017 --> 00:58:41,101
Linda ronstadt.
1078
00:58:45,564 --> 00:58:47,274
Linda was the queen.
1079
00:58:47,441 --> 00:58:49,609
She was like what
Beyoncé is now.
1080
00:58:51,653 --> 00:58:54,406
She was the first female
rock and roll star.
1081
00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,783
I want love? I
1082
00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:00,203
I get closer I
1083
00:59:01,121 --> 00:59:03,081
hilburn: She was the only
female artist to have
1084
00:59:03,248 --> 00:59:08,336
five platinum albums in a row
and most of them multi-platinum.
1085
00:59:09,004 --> 00:59:11,173
I hold my hand I
1086
00:59:12,424 --> 00:59:14,968
for favorite female
in rock and pop...
1087
00:59:15,135 --> 00:59:16,261
Favorite country single...
1088
00:59:16,428 --> 00:59:18,388
Blue bayou by Linda ronstadt.
1089
00:59:18,555 --> 00:59:20,265
- And the winner is...
- Takes another one.
1090
00:59:20,432 --> 00:59:23,435
- Linda ronstadt.
- The winner is Linda ronstadt.
1091
00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:27,355
I you make a fuss when
her eyes ain't on you I
1092
00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:30,776
I well give us something
to look forward to I
1093
00:59:30,984 --> 00:59:34,321
I remember all those
other girls who ran I
1094
00:59:34,863 --> 00:59:37,449
ronstadt: The nature of
being a pop musician is that you get
1095
00:59:37,616 --> 00:59:39,242
these things that are successful
1096
00:59:39,409 --> 00:59:41,449
and you have to sing them
for the rest of your life.
1097
00:59:41,495 --> 00:59:43,097
Over and over and over again
and they start sounding
1098
00:59:43,121 --> 00:59:44,873
like your washing machine.
1099
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:50,462
I didn't like singing in big
arenas because the sound
1100
00:59:50,629 --> 00:59:53,590
was like, you know, you'd hear
the guitar solo that
1101
00:59:53,757 --> 00:59:56,384
they played last week still
ringing around the rafters.
1102
00:59:58,845 --> 01:00:01,431
So I started looking
for other things to do.
1103
01:00:06,019 --> 01:00:08,939
Cooder: There is this feeling
that she has about the music itself
1104
01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:11,316
rather than the career itself.
1105
01:00:11,483 --> 01:00:14,945
You know, some people are
just hardcore careerists.
1106
01:00:15,195 --> 01:00:16,988
There's nothing wrong with that.
1107
01:00:17,656 --> 01:00:21,034
You know, it's how your mind
works that makes the difference.
1108
01:00:21,201 --> 01:00:24,830
It's how you see yourself or how
you see yourself in the world,
1109
01:00:24,996 --> 01:00:26,164
you know.
1110
01:00:26,331 --> 01:00:29,417
And not everybody's
a pure art for art's sake
1111
01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:31,378
and not everybody's
a pure careerist either,
1112
01:00:31,545 --> 01:00:32,796
especially in music
1113
01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:36,133
because musicians love music
or they wouldn't do it.
1114
01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:40,720
Hilburn: She wanted to change.
1115
01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:43,181
She got tired
of doing arena rock,
1116
01:00:43,348 --> 01:00:45,183
she wanted to try
different things.
1117
01:00:47,102 --> 01:00:49,413
Ronstadt: I picked up the phone
and called my great friend John Rockwell
1118
01:00:49,437 --> 01:00:52,440
who writes music criticism
for the New York times.
1119
01:00:53,483 --> 01:00:55,861
I said I hate playing
these big sporting arenas.
1120
01:00:56,027 --> 01:00:58,613
It's not good for the audience,
it's not good for the band.
1121
01:00:58,905 --> 01:01:02,159
I want to sing in a theater
with a proscenium and a curtain.
1122
01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:04,499
He said well the next time
you come to New York
1123
01:01:04,536 --> 01:01:07,414
I'll take you down to meet this
fellow named Joseph papp.
1124
01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:10,017
He has a theater, it's called
the New York public theater
1125
01:01:10,041 --> 01:01:13,128
and he does Shakespeare and he
does musicals; He did hair.
1126
01:01:13,753 --> 01:01:16,131
He wanted to do
the pirates of penzance.
1127
01:01:16,756 --> 01:01:19,050
My mom was
a Gilbert and Sullivan lover.
1128
01:01:19,217 --> 01:01:22,512
She had a big book of Gilbert
and Sullivan songs on the piano.
1129
01:01:23,054 --> 01:01:27,017
And I actually learned all
the soprano parts as a kid.
1130
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:29,477
And I loved singing them
1131
01:01:29,644 --> 01:01:32,022
but I never got a chance to
in rock and roll.
1132
01:01:32,731 --> 01:01:35,942
Hilburn: That was in her roots,
that was in her upbringing,
1133
01:01:36,109 --> 01:01:39,654
it was part of her authentic
musical experience.
1134
01:01:41,031 --> 01:01:43,301
Ronstadt: Joe called me and
said if I wanted to do the part
1135
01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:44,659
I could have it.
1136
01:01:44,826 --> 01:01:46,426
And I said no I have to come
and audition
1137
01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:48,533
because I didn't know whether
I could sing it or not.
1138
01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:52,083
She wanted to be certain
that she would do it well.
1139
01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:54,395
They thought being able to say
Linda ronstadt's in it
1140
01:01:54,419 --> 01:01:56,171
would be good for business.
1141
01:01:56,338 --> 01:01:59,299
But her concern was whether
it would be good for the show.
1142
01:02:03,511 --> 01:02:06,071
Souther: I was there for several
rehearsals and she was fabulous.
1143
01:02:06,139 --> 01:02:08,516
She just grabbed it
by the horns and...
1144
01:02:14,022 --> 01:02:15,625
Ronstadt: That was the first job
I was ever offered
1145
01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:17,169
where I actually got
to sing like that.
1146
01:02:17,234 --> 01:02:19,670
I was delighted, I really was.
But I can't do it very well yet.
1147
01:02:19,694 --> 01:02:21,464
Because it's really hard.
You can't learn that overnight.
1148
01:02:21,488 --> 01:02:23,949
- You got to be in training.
- In training, yup.
1149
01:02:27,702 --> 01:02:31,873
Geffen: Linda had a great voice
and she had a great vision for herself
1150
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,502
and she didn't want to just
be singing rock and roll,
1151
01:02:35,669 --> 01:02:37,128
she wanted to do everything.
1152
01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:40,799
I hold, monsters! I
1153
01:02:41,216 --> 01:02:43,551
I ere your pirate caravanserai I
1154
01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:47,555
I proceed, against our will
to wed us all I
1155
01:02:48,139 --> 01:02:52,477
I just bear in mind that we
are wards in chancery I
1156
01:02:52,644 --> 01:02:56,439
I and father
is a major-general I
1157
01:02:56,606 --> 01:02:58,608
Kevin kline:
I knew some of her songs, sure.
1158
01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:01,236
But operetta?
1159
01:03:01,528 --> 01:03:02,821
I prepare! I
1160
01:03:02,988 --> 01:03:08,618
I unhappy general Stanley I
1161
01:03:08,785 --> 01:03:10,785
a week into rehearsal we all
sang through the score
1162
01:03:10,912 --> 01:03:13,123
just sitting in a circle
in chairs
1163
01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:17,210
and when I heard her voice
it was just
1164
01:03:17,377 --> 01:03:23,800
this belle canto soprano
gorgeous musical,
1165
01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:28,680
celestial yet earthy, just pure,
1166
01:03:28,847 --> 01:03:31,099
something so pure,
it just made me cry.
1167
01:03:31,266 --> 01:03:33,351
I just remember just listening
to that voice,
1168
01:03:33,518 --> 01:03:36,062
it was just singing
that stuff...
1169
01:03:38,898 --> 01:03:39,983
Touching.
1170
01:03:41,192 --> 01:03:42,336
I oh, sisters,
deaf to pity's name I
1171
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,862
I for shame! I
1172
01:03:44,029 --> 01:03:46,072
I it's true that he has
gone astray I
1173
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:47,782
I but pray I
1174
01:03:47,949 --> 01:03:50,201
I is that a reason
good and true I
1175
01:03:50,368 --> 01:03:51,494
I why you I
1176
01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:57,959
I should all be deaf
to pity's name? I
1177
01:03:58,418 --> 01:04:00,545
browne:
Gilbert and Sullivan? Really?
1178
01:04:00,712 --> 01:04:03,757
A rock star who has the guts
to go out there
1179
01:04:03,923 --> 01:04:07,177
and do that kind of
musical comedy.
1180
01:04:07,344 --> 01:04:08,345
She just didn't care.
1181
01:04:08,511 --> 01:04:11,556
To her it was like
a mountain to climb.
1182
01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:29,824
Parton: Linda can bring
herself to sing anything.
1183
01:04:29,991 --> 01:04:33,578
She could sing opera, she could
do anything with her voice.
1184
01:04:33,745 --> 01:04:35,246
I couldn't do all that.
1185
01:04:48,176 --> 01:04:50,016
Ronstadt: Kevin kline and I
were both nominated
1186
01:04:50,095 --> 01:04:51,679
for Tony awards for that show.
1187
01:04:52,138 --> 01:04:53,556
Kevin deserved it
more than I did.
1188
01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:55,558
All I did was walk
around and sing.
1189
01:05:02,482 --> 01:05:04,692
My mom died during
pirates of penzance.
1190
01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:08,405
I wasn't with her when she died.
1191
01:05:08,613 --> 01:05:10,949
And I just couldn't quite
get it through my head
1192
01:05:11,116 --> 01:05:12,385
that she was gone
out of the world
1193
01:05:12,409 --> 01:05:14,244
and I was never going
to see her again.
1194
01:05:16,955 --> 01:05:19,165
She'd had all these records...
Louis Armstrong,
1195
01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:21,000
Ella Fitzgerald,
1196
01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:23,128
Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee.
1197
01:05:23,294 --> 01:05:25,880
And I thought I'd like to try
to sing some of those songs.
1198
01:05:26,214 --> 01:05:31,177
Sinatra: I only the lonely I
1199
01:05:31,386 --> 01:05:34,556
when we lived together almost
every evening the last record
1200
01:05:34,722 --> 01:05:36,516
we listened to was
a frank Sinatra album
1201
01:05:36,683 --> 01:05:38,560
called songs for
only the lonely.
1202
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:40,937
With Nelson riddle arranging.
1203
01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:47,360
Joe Smith: Constantly people
were telling Linda you can't do this.
1204
01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:48,945
I'm guilty.
1205
01:05:49,112 --> 01:05:51,781
When she was going to do
the Nelson riddle album
1206
01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:54,159
I didn't think it was
a good idea,
1207
01:05:54,325 --> 01:05:56,077
not because she couldn't do it
1208
01:05:56,244 --> 01:05:59,747
but because we had this run
going with rock and roll records
1209
01:05:59,914 --> 01:06:01,249
and country rock.
1210
01:06:03,084 --> 01:06:04,687
Ronstadt: I said I'd like to find
somebody that can write arrangements
1211
01:06:04,711 --> 01:06:05,920
like Nelson riddle.
1212
01:06:06,379 --> 01:06:09,090
They said why don't you
just ask Nelson riddle?
1213
01:06:09,841 --> 01:06:12,177
Well I didn't know
he was still alive.
1214
01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:14,637
You were the only person
that I knew that could do
1215
01:06:14,804 --> 01:06:16,347
orchestrations like this.
1216
01:06:16,514 --> 01:06:17,724
I didn't know where you were,
1217
01:06:17,891 --> 01:06:19,731
whether you'd be interested
in working with me.
1218
01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:21,561
Whether you'd ever
heard of me or not.
1219
01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:23,372
And as soon as I started
learning the songs
1220
01:06:23,396 --> 01:06:24,689
they just got inside me.
1221
01:06:24,856 --> 01:06:26,375
I wanted to record them
and I wanted to do it
1222
01:06:26,399 --> 01:06:28,151
worse than anything
I've ever wanted to do.
1223
01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:29,753
Riddle:
I remember your phrase for this.
1224
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:33,281
You said these are
songs I cannot not do.
1225
01:06:33,448 --> 01:06:34,741
I can't not do them.
1226
01:06:34,908 --> 01:06:37,410
At some point
it's like falling in love.
1227
01:06:37,577 --> 01:06:38,995
Choice doesn't
even enter into it.
1228
01:06:39,162 --> 01:06:42,207
I what's new? I
1229
01:06:43,082 --> 01:06:46,461
I how is the world I
1230
01:06:47,712 --> 01:06:50,340
I treating you? I
1231
01:06:51,466 --> 01:06:53,635
I would think oh my god,
how can I sing these songs?
1232
01:06:53,801 --> 01:06:56,161
Ella Fitzgerald has sung them,
Billie Holiday has sing them,
1233
01:06:56,262 --> 01:06:58,056
frank Sinatra has sung them.
1234
01:07:00,016 --> 01:07:02,810
I handsome as ever I
1235
01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:05,939
souther:
She studied all of those records
1236
01:07:06,105 --> 01:07:08,733
and she studied every available
version she could find
1237
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,318
of each one of those songs.
1238
01:07:10,485 --> 01:07:12,320
She is a real student.
1239
01:07:12,487 --> 01:07:15,073
I what's new? I
1240
01:07:15,490 --> 01:07:19,369
I how did that romance I
1241
01:07:19,911 --> 01:07:21,913
I come through? I
1242
01:07:22,288 --> 01:07:25,124
Asher: She told she wanted to
get those songs out of the elevator.
1243
01:07:25,291 --> 01:07:28,002
She meant that that's the
only place you heard them.
1244
01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:31,297
And she wanted to point out that
that's not where they belong.
1245
01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:33,424
They were some of the
best songs ever written.
1246
01:07:33,591 --> 01:07:37,637
I why am I asking what's new? I
1247
01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:42,058
Smith: I went to her house and
tried to talk her out of it but
1248
01:07:42,225 --> 01:07:45,270
as soon as she told me Nelson
riddle was going to do it,
1249
01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:48,481
I said well I'd like
to come to the record session.
1250
01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:00,135
Ronstadt: When my sister was
in high school she got to go
1251
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:02,388
to her senior prom and she got
to wear these strapless dresses
1252
01:08:02,412 --> 01:08:03,705
with a lot of tool
1253
01:08:03,871 --> 01:08:05,999
and I always wanted
one of those dresses.
1254
01:08:07,917 --> 01:08:09,752
By the time I got to high school
1255
01:08:09,919 --> 01:08:12,046
styles had changed
and I never got to have one.
1256
01:08:12,213 --> 01:08:13,816
So I said I'm going to put
a show together,
1257
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,800
we're all going to get to wear
those dresses.
1258
01:08:16,384 --> 01:08:19,929
I so dream I
1259
01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:24,058
I dream I
1260
01:08:25,018 --> 01:08:27,604
I dream I
1261
01:08:33,610 --> 01:08:35,129
Johnny Carson:
This is a real treat tonight.
1262
01:08:35,153 --> 01:08:36,904
We have three marvelous singers
on the show
1263
01:08:37,071 --> 01:08:39,782
and would you know how many
times they have been nominated
1264
01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:41,117
for grammys between them?
1265
01:08:41,284 --> 01:08:42,869
Forty-five times in total.
1266
01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:49,268
The albums they've all sold
are in the multi-millions
1267
01:08:49,292 --> 01:08:51,419
and I guess it's taken
the ladies about ten years
1268
01:08:51,586 --> 01:08:53,731
to get this together where they
wanted to work together
1269
01:08:53,755 --> 01:08:57,675
and made an album called trio
and it was well worth the time.
1270
01:08:57,842 --> 01:09:00,082
The album is described as
old-timey but it's sensational.
1271
01:09:00,178 --> 01:09:01,989
Would you welcome
Linda ronstadt, Dolly Parton,
1272
01:09:02,013 --> 01:09:03,014
emmylou Harris?
1273
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:12,440
Ronstadt: I had met Dolly.
1274
01:09:12,607 --> 01:09:14,275
I saw her singing
on the grand ole opry
1275
01:09:14,442 --> 01:09:15,860
and she was a wonder to behold.
1276
01:09:16,027 --> 01:09:18,547
What you have in front of you is
one of the most beautiful girls
1277
01:09:18,655 --> 01:09:19,697
you've ever seen.
1278
01:09:19,864 --> 01:09:21,407
She's just gorgeous.
1279
01:09:22,408 --> 01:09:23,761
When she opened her mouth
and started to sing
1280
01:09:23,785 --> 01:09:24,827
I fell on the floor.
1281
01:09:24,994 --> 01:09:26,704
She's an amazing singer.
1282
01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:28,539
I Jolene, Jolene I
1283
01:09:28,706 --> 01:09:31,584
I Jolene, Jolene I
1284
01:09:32,085 --> 01:09:36,798
I I'm begging of you
please don't take my man I
1285
01:09:38,341 --> 01:09:39,842
ronstadt: I told
emmylou about her
1286
01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,761
and then Emmy met her somehow.
1287
01:09:41,928 --> 01:09:43,513
I Jolene I
1288
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,308
Harris: When I made my first
trip to Nashville the powers that be
1289
01:09:47,475 --> 01:09:50,228
set up a meeting with Dolly
and she was making a record
1290
01:09:50,395 --> 01:09:53,523
in her studio
and it was like unbelievable.
1291
01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:56,275
It was better than
any Disneyland visit.
1292
01:09:56,442 --> 01:09:58,695
I eyes of emerald green I
1293
01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,697
parton: They kind of found
my music somewhere
1294
01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,116
and kind of wanted to meet me
1295
01:10:03,282 --> 01:10:05,326
and that's kind of how
we all started.
1296
01:10:06,327 --> 01:10:08,472
Ronstadt: Emmy called me up
and she's like Dolly Parton's at my house,
1297
01:10:08,496 --> 01:10:10,081
you have to come over.
1298
01:10:10,248 --> 01:10:11,833
I was living like
40 minutes away
1299
01:10:11,999 --> 01:10:13,501
and I got there in 20 minutes.
1300
01:10:13,668 --> 01:10:16,796
She came over and there we were,
the three of us
1301
01:10:16,963 --> 01:10:19,132
and we were there
with our idol Dolly.
1302
01:10:19,298 --> 01:10:21,618
They had this big old house,
almost like a bunch of hippies
1303
01:10:21,676 --> 01:10:24,053
just living up there,
different people and musicians.
1304
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:25,596
They had different bedrooms.
1305
01:10:25,763 --> 01:10:27,557
It was just a
free-for-all kind of house.
1306
01:10:27,724 --> 01:10:29,350
A dream for musicians.
1307
01:10:29,517 --> 01:10:32,895
And somebody said
well sing something.
1308
01:10:33,104 --> 01:10:36,941
I Bury me beneath the Willow I
1309
01:10:37,108 --> 01:10:39,944
I under the weeping Willow
tree I
1310
01:10:40,111 --> 01:10:44,490
I so he may know
where I am sleeping I
1311
01:10:44,657 --> 01:10:47,702
I and perhaps
he'll weep for me I
1312
01:10:47,869 --> 01:10:49,078
so I started singing that
1313
01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:50,848
and then they started saying
sing that again.
1314
01:10:50,872 --> 01:10:52,248
I go "oh, Bury me..."
1315
01:10:52,415 --> 01:10:54,041
And here come
all these harmonies
1316
01:10:54,208 --> 01:10:56,669
and oh it was just
chhhng, chhhng, chhhng.
1317
01:10:56,836 --> 01:10:58,796
I beneath the Willow I
1318
01:10:58,963 --> 01:11:02,675
I under the weeping Willow
tree I
1319
01:11:02,884 --> 01:11:08,097
I well he may know
where I am sleeping I
1320
01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:11,934
I and perhaps
he'll weep for me I
1321
01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:13,936
when we heard our voices
1322
01:11:14,103 --> 01:11:17,398
it was like injecting some kind
of serum into your veins.
1323
01:11:17,565 --> 01:11:19,609
It was like a high
like you've never felt.
1324
01:11:19,776 --> 01:11:21,569
We sang first in a living room
1325
01:11:21,736 --> 01:11:23,216
and said well
this sounds really good.
1326
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:24,559
It was special,
it was different.
1327
01:11:24,614 --> 01:11:29,619
It was like a sound of
sisters, musical sisters.
1328
01:11:29,786 --> 01:11:34,916
I won't you Bury me
beneath the Willow I
1329
01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,795
I under the weeping Willow
tree I
1330
01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:41,339
I where he may know where... I
1331
01:11:41,506 --> 01:11:44,675
at that moment we thought
we have to do a record.
1332
01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:50,181
I to know know know him I
1333
01:11:50,348 --> 01:11:55,019
I is to love love love him I
1334
01:11:55,186 --> 01:11:59,148
I just to see him smile I
1335
01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:03,277
I makes my life worthwhile I
1336
01:12:04,529 --> 01:12:06,548
ronstadt: We learned so much
about singing from each other
1337
01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:08,412
because you get to sort of
be them for a second
1338
01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:10,013
when you're shadowing
them in Harmony.
1339
01:12:10,117 --> 01:12:13,246
It's like getting on an eagle
and getting to see the world
1340
01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:15,414
through that eagle's experience.
1341
01:12:15,581 --> 01:12:17,208
I get to sing through
Dolly's voice
1342
01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:19,919
or sing through Emmy's voice
when I sing real close Harmony.
1343
01:12:20,086 --> 01:12:21,587
I whyl
1344
01:12:22,755 --> 01:12:26,843
I can't he see me? I
1345
01:12:27,844 --> 01:12:31,472
I howl... I
1346
01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:34,350
the only big disagreements would
be are we going to use autoharp
1347
01:12:34,517 --> 01:12:36,561
or dulcimer on this song.
1348
01:12:36,727 --> 01:12:38,271
Yeah.
1349
01:12:38,437 --> 01:12:40,082
Sometimes we would disagree
about who would sing lead
1350
01:12:40,106 --> 01:12:41,649
because Emmy and I
always wanted Dolly
1351
01:12:41,816 --> 01:12:43,109
to sing lead on everything.
1352
01:12:43,276 --> 01:12:45,152
Oh, well Dolly will
sound great on that.
1353
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:47,363
You sing lead!
No, you sing lead!
1354
01:12:49,448 --> 01:12:51,492
Parton:
Linda is such a perfectionist.
1355
01:12:51,659 --> 01:12:53,119
She's a pain in the ass
sometimes
1356
01:12:53,286 --> 01:12:55,371
because she is such
a perfectionist.
1357
01:12:55,538 --> 01:12:57,707
Because she will not have it
unless it's perfect.
1358
01:12:57,874 --> 01:13:00,459
She used to make me sing those
harmonies over and over
1359
01:13:00,626 --> 01:13:03,754
and I said I'm going to sing it
the same way no matter what.
1360
01:13:03,921 --> 01:13:05,965
No, you're not! You're going
to hit this one note.
1361
01:13:06,132 --> 01:13:08,759
And see I don't know how to,
all those intricate harmonies
1362
01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:10,386
like emmylou and Linda do.
1363
01:13:10,553 --> 01:13:12,972
I just sing that raw stuff
from feeling
1364
01:13:13,139 --> 01:13:16,267
and it ain't always proper
but it sounds good.
1365
01:13:16,434 --> 01:13:20,021
I yes just to know I
1366
01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:24,108
I is to love love love him I
1367
01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:28,779
iandldol
1368
01:13:31,365 --> 01:13:33,910
Interviewer: Linda, you've sung
just about all types of music.
1369
01:13:34,076 --> 01:13:37,288
Light opera; You've been on
Broadway, rock and roll, pop.
1370
01:13:37,455 --> 01:13:39,415
What's your next project
going to be?
1371
01:13:39,582 --> 01:13:41,709
I'm going to do an album
of Mexican music,
1372
01:13:41,876 --> 01:13:43,020
of traditional Mexican music.
1373
01:13:43,044 --> 01:13:45,379
I'm kind of a
traditional Mexican myself.
1374
01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:47,774
You know, I grew up about 40
minutes from the Mexican border,
1375
01:13:47,798 --> 01:13:50,676
my family are Mexican,
and that is my roots.
1376
01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:53,554
That's what I came from
and I have been dying to do
1377
01:13:53,721 --> 01:13:55,097
this record for years and years
1378
01:13:55,264 --> 01:13:56,742
and I'm getting around
to it this year.
1379
01:13:56,766 --> 01:13:58,768
Boy, I'm going to do it.
1380
01:14:06,067 --> 01:14:08,861
Souther: Our neighbor that lived
behind us in the garage apartment
1381
01:14:09,028 --> 01:14:11,572
was Harry Dean Stanton,
great character actor
1382
01:14:11,739 --> 01:14:14,533
and a great singer
of Mexican folk songs.
1383
01:14:15,076 --> 01:14:17,495
We would hear him up until
the wee hours singing
1384
01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:20,498
these Mexican folk songs,
these canciones.
1385
01:14:20,665 --> 01:14:24,168
And Linda knew all those songs.
1386
01:14:24,335 --> 01:14:27,171
I don't think people
thought of her as...
1387
01:14:27,338 --> 01:14:29,590
As Mexican.
1388
01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:32,551
It certainly never came up.
I never heard it.
1389
01:14:32,718 --> 01:14:35,596
I mean, the name
ronstadt is not Hernandez.
1390
01:14:35,763 --> 01:14:37,431
Ronstadt is a
German-sounding name.
1391
01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:41,477
No, she's certainly
from Mexican heritage
1392
01:14:41,644 --> 01:14:43,854
but it wasn't the most
apparent thing.
1393
01:14:44,021 --> 01:14:45,898
Ronstadt: I want to see
where you put your d.
1394
01:14:46,065 --> 01:14:48,484
Say ganador.
1395
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:53,656
The phrasing, ganador.
1396
01:14:53,823 --> 01:14:55,866
Ganadon
1397
01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:57,702
ganadon
1398
01:14:57,868 --> 01:14:59,745
- dor?
- Mm-hm. Mm-hm.
1399
01:14:59,912 --> 01:15:02,707
Is it on the roof of your mouth,
the back of your teeth or...
1400
01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:06,377
When he asked me if I would sing
a Harmony on his record
1401
01:15:06,544 --> 01:15:08,212
I was completely delighted
1402
01:15:08,379 --> 01:15:11,549
because you can only learn
by doing. I can't...
1403
01:15:12,091 --> 01:15:13,801
There isn't a book you can get,
you know,
1404
01:15:13,968 --> 01:15:16,804
how do you learn how to be
a singer in Spanish?
1405
01:15:16,971 --> 01:15:18,973
It's always been a dream
of mine to make an album
1406
01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:21,851
of these Mexican songs
that I learned from my father.
1407
01:15:29,358 --> 01:15:30,958
My father had a beautiful
baritone voice.
1408
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:33,446
He sounded like
a cross between Pedro infante
1409
01:15:33,612 --> 01:15:35,322
and frank Sinatra.
1410
01:15:36,407 --> 01:15:38,993
Always if there was a dinner
party or something he'd get the
1411
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,538
guitar out and he'd just sing
and I always would fall asleep
1412
01:15:42,705 --> 01:15:45,833
in somebody's lap listening to
my dad sing some beautiful song.
1413
01:15:48,252 --> 01:15:51,297
We always as a family,
we always sang in Spanish.
1414
01:15:51,464 --> 01:15:54,383
Even though I didn't understand
much of what I was singing,
1415
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:56,028
it was something
that I learned to do.
1416
01:15:56,052 --> 01:15:57,678
It's kind of like lip reading,
you know.
1417
01:15:57,845 --> 01:16:01,057
I used to kind of chameleon in
Harmony along with my father.
1418
01:16:06,729 --> 01:16:10,024
To learn to sing that style as
a grown-up professional singer,
1419
01:16:10,191 --> 01:16:11,609
that took some doing.
1420
01:16:39,804 --> 01:16:42,181
I always forget the beginning
where I go through the ending
1421
01:16:42,348 --> 01:16:43,682
and it makes it so hard.
1422
01:16:43,849 --> 01:16:45,476
Oh yeah. What was it, this way?
1423
01:16:45,643 --> 01:16:47,079
Is that how you do it?
The Latin way.
1424
01:16:47,103 --> 01:16:48,395
Okay, I got it.
1425
01:16:50,022 --> 01:16:51,899
Okay, I'm learning
all these new things.
1426
01:16:59,073 --> 01:17:02,034
My dad invited me to go to the
Tucson mariachi conference
1427
01:17:02,201 --> 01:17:04,954
and that way I got to meet
the mariachi vargas.
1428
01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:11,085
Those good bands like the cobre
or the camperos
1429
01:17:11,252 --> 01:17:13,271
or the mariachi vargas, you're
going to go to a symphony
1430
01:17:13,295 --> 01:17:15,023
and you're not going to find
better musicians.
1431
01:17:15,047 --> 01:17:16,924
They're all virtuoso players.
1432
01:17:22,596 --> 01:17:24,473
I picked a couple of songs.
1433
01:17:25,391 --> 01:17:27,434
The band said these songs
are very traditional
1434
01:17:27,601 --> 01:17:29,478
and they're very difficult
to do.
1435
01:17:30,271 --> 01:17:32,022
I said well, they're
the only songs I know
1436
01:17:32,189 --> 01:17:33,899
so we better learn them.
1437
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,000
I went to the president
of my record company,
1438
01:17:43,075 --> 01:17:45,452
who's a man who genuinely
likes music, and I said look,
1439
01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:47,347
I made all these records
for you, they saw this.
1440
01:17:47,371 --> 01:17:48,789
I'm going to do this just for me
1441
01:17:48,956 --> 01:17:50,236
and this might be
self-indulgent.
1442
01:17:50,291 --> 01:17:51,560
If it sells two copies
I don't care
1443
01:17:51,584 --> 01:17:53,669
but if I can't record this music
I'm going to die.
1444
01:17:54,837 --> 01:17:57,006
I don't understand any Spanish.
1445
01:17:57,173 --> 01:18:00,968
I didn't understand how popular
those songs were
1446
01:18:01,135 --> 01:18:05,681
but this is a lady who wanted
to do it her way
1447
01:18:05,848 --> 01:18:07,558
and who was going to say no?
1448
01:18:40,424 --> 01:18:43,177
Hilburn: Canciones de mi padre,
it's the largest selling
1449
01:18:43,344 --> 01:18:46,096
Spanish language album
in the history of the industry.
1450
01:18:46,263 --> 01:18:49,850
That's the whole Linda ronstadt
story right there in a nutshell.
1451
01:18:50,017 --> 01:18:53,062
Linda deciding she wants
to do something,
1452
01:18:53,229 --> 01:18:55,773
the record company telling
her she can't.
1453
01:18:55,940 --> 01:18:57,858
She goes ahead
and does it anyway
1454
01:18:58,025 --> 01:19:02,446
and they jump on board
as the thing starts to take off.
1455
01:19:04,114 --> 01:19:06,408
Casado: Toda la familia
would come and they loved it
1456
01:19:06,575 --> 01:19:08,994
because they were here
from Mexico.
1457
01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:12,081
Even though their kids
had grown up here
1458
01:19:12,248 --> 01:19:14,124
and become American citizens,
1459
01:19:14,291 --> 01:19:17,294
who is this girl singing songs
so beautifully.
1460
01:19:26,512 --> 01:19:28,312
Cooder: The fact that she
went on and did that
1461
01:19:28,347 --> 01:19:30,516
and did it in such a big way.
1462
01:19:30,766 --> 01:19:32,434
It was a brave thing to do.
1463
01:19:32,601 --> 01:19:34,144
Many people would
have been terrified
1464
01:19:34,311 --> 01:19:35,980
I'll mess up my career.
1465
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:41,485
But obviously she had
purpose, personal decision.
1466
01:19:42,444 --> 01:19:43,612
It's good.
1467
01:20:20,899 --> 01:20:23,819
Ronstadt: To have that traditionalism
going along on the bus with me
1468
01:20:23,986 --> 01:20:26,113
from town to town where
I'd only sung pop music,
1469
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,949
to take that part of the dirt
with me, you know,
1470
01:20:29,116 --> 01:20:31,952
the part of the soil of the land
where I came from to Cleveland
1471
01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:34,288
and Cincinnati and New York,
that was a thrill.
1472
01:20:34,455 --> 01:20:36,375
You should have seen
central park with, you know,
1473
01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:39,084
close to a million people
in it when the mariachi
1474
01:20:39,251 --> 01:20:41,628
got up on stage with their
big hats, the place fell out.
1475
01:20:41,795 --> 01:20:44,048
They went nuts. There
was such a thing of pride
1476
01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,091
that went from the stage
to the audience.
1477
01:20:46,258 --> 01:20:47,593
It was just great.
1478
01:20:48,969 --> 01:20:52,306
This song was written
by me and my father
1479
01:20:52,473 --> 01:20:54,808
and it's called
lo siento mi vida.
1480
01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:02,900
My dad died when he was 84.
1481
01:21:04,485 --> 01:21:07,654
There was a kind of a peace
that happened when he died.
1482
01:21:09,907 --> 01:21:12,218
In the three of four days before
he died he was reading to us
1483
01:21:12,242 --> 01:21:15,371
passages from
Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book
1484
01:21:15,537 --> 01:21:18,999
love in the time of cholera
and it was just a great sharing.
1485
01:21:21,794 --> 01:21:24,088
It was a different experience
being with my father
1486
01:21:24,254 --> 01:21:26,465
when he died
than it was with my mother.
1487
01:21:27,758 --> 01:21:30,677
I knew I was going to miss him
but I accepted it better.
1488
01:21:42,398 --> 01:21:44,900
He had what I would
describe as a beautiful death.
1489
01:21:49,363 --> 01:21:51,591
Aaron Neville: I'd seen her on
TV and I thought she was great
1490
01:21:51,615 --> 01:21:54,910
but when she came to
New Orleans she was just
1491
01:21:55,077 --> 01:21:58,956
so down to earth
and girl next door thing.
1492
01:21:59,415 --> 01:22:01,375
And just humble.
1493
01:22:02,418 --> 01:22:04,753
She was just a sweet,
humble person.
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01:22:05,963 --> 01:22:09,091
Ronstadt: I'd been in new
Orleans for the world's fair
1495
01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,069
and somebody said well
the Neville brothers are playing
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01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:12,933
at some club down
in the quarter. We should go.
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01:22:13,095 --> 01:22:15,180
We going to get
serious, serious right now.
1498
01:22:15,347 --> 01:22:18,267
I'm going to turn you on to
our brother Aaron Neville.
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01:22:18,434 --> 01:22:19,702
Ronstadt: Aaron Neville
was on stage singing
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01:22:19,726 --> 01:22:21,478
this beautiful song Arianne.
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01:22:21,645 --> 01:22:22,980
I Arianne is April morning I
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01:22:26,316 --> 01:22:30,362
I that comes rippling
through my window I
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01:22:30,612 --> 01:22:34,366
I she's the smell
of coffee brewing I
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01:22:34,741 --> 01:22:38,579
I on a quiet, rainy Sunday I
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01:22:38,829 --> 01:22:40,640
Neville: Somebody told me
she was in the audience
1506
01:22:40,664 --> 01:22:42,583
so I called her up on stage.
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01:22:42,749 --> 01:22:44,501
Sing some doo wop.
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01:22:45,085 --> 01:22:46,688
Ronstadt: Usually I'll never do
anything like that
1509
01:22:46,712 --> 01:22:48,797
because I like to rehearse
everything first.
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01:22:48,964 --> 01:22:51,133
But I wasn't going to say no
to Aaron Neville.
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01:22:51,383 --> 01:22:53,719
Neville: After that I asked
for an autograph.
1512
01:22:53,886 --> 01:22:56,346
She said to Aaron, love,
I'll sing with you anytime,
1513
01:22:56,513 --> 01:22:59,308
any place, anywhere in any key.
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01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:07,733
I look at this face I
1515
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,294
ronstadt: The next morning
I woke up
1516
01:23:09,318 --> 01:23:10,998
and my first thought
was boy I like singing
1517
01:23:11,028 --> 01:23:12,630
with Aaron Neville.
That sounded pretty good.
1518
01:23:12,654 --> 01:23:14,424
And then I thought, you idiot,
everybody sounds good
1519
01:23:14,448 --> 01:23:16,366
when they sing
with Aaron Neville.
1520
01:23:17,451 --> 01:23:20,204
I said we got to make a record
together and he was up for it.
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01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,331
I I don't know much I
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01:23:23,707 --> 01:23:26,877
I but I know I love you I
1523
01:23:30,297 --> 01:23:35,427
I and that may be
all I need to know I
1524
01:23:36,887 --> 01:23:39,681
Neville: There were all kind
of rumors going on...
1525
01:23:40,766 --> 01:23:43,852
They say oh Linda and Aaron
got married or whatever.
1526
01:23:44,478 --> 01:23:45,979
Just crazy stuff.
1527
01:23:46,146 --> 01:23:48,607
I look at these dreams I
1528
01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:53,237
I so beaten and so battered I
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01:23:53,403 --> 01:23:55,322
I I don't know much I
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01:23:55,531 --> 01:23:57,759
Neville: The producer told us
if you don't make it look real
1531
01:23:57,783 --> 01:24:01,078
ain't no sense doing it.
So we had to make it look real.
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01:24:03,622 --> 01:24:07,876
I that may be all there is I
1533
01:24:08,544 --> 01:24:11,713
I to know I
1534
01:24:14,341 --> 01:24:18,512
At the studio I said I'll
see you at the grammys.
1535
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,019
I had a speech but
1536
01:24:27,729 --> 01:24:30,732
Too nervous. I just want to
say thank you to Linda first.
1537
01:24:31,817 --> 01:24:33,485
And my wife joelle.
1538
01:24:36,321 --> 01:24:38,441
Ronstadt: Aaron and I won two
grammys for that record.
1539
01:24:39,825 --> 01:24:42,160
But as time went on there was
something really wrong
1540
01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:43,745
with my voice.
1541
01:24:45,998 --> 01:24:49,710
I just lost a lot of
different colors in my voice.
1542
01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:52,267
There's a lot of things
you do in singing.
1543
01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:55,841
You turn your voice to different
planes to make different sounds
1544
01:24:56,008 --> 01:24:57,676
and I couldn't do any of that.
1545
01:25:00,929 --> 01:25:03,390
Turned out I had
Parkinson's disease.
1546
01:25:05,726 --> 01:25:07,728
Singing is really complex
1547
01:25:07,894 --> 01:25:11,189
and I was made most aware
of it by having it vanish.
1548
01:25:12,357 --> 01:25:15,902
I can still sing in my mind
but I can't do it physically.
1549
01:25:18,155 --> 01:25:22,117
I sang my last concert
on November 7th, 2009.
1550
01:25:22,618 --> 01:25:24,244
It was a Mexican show.
1551
01:25:25,912 --> 01:25:29,791
Souther: Must have been
quite a reckoning
1552
01:25:29,958 --> 01:25:32,419
to have this marvelous
instrument
1553
01:25:32,586 --> 01:25:34,426
that could always
hold the notes, hit the notes
1554
01:25:34,463 --> 01:25:36,048
and shape the notes,
1555
01:25:36,214 --> 01:25:38,800
could no longer hold the notes
without quaver.
1556
01:25:41,011 --> 01:25:43,180
But there's a lot of good
records with
1557
01:25:43,347 --> 01:25:45,015
her magnificent voice on them
1558
01:25:45,182 --> 01:25:47,809
and I hear her laughing
in my head all the time.
1559
01:25:47,976 --> 01:25:49,770
I hear that cackle all the time.
1560
01:25:50,562 --> 01:25:52,481
I'm sort of never without her.
1561
01:25:55,275 --> 01:25:59,446
Asher: I could imagine not being
able to sing for Linda is awful.
1562
01:25:59,946 --> 01:26:05,535
But I also know nobody who could
handle that kind of change
1563
01:26:05,702 --> 01:26:09,122
or adjustment in a more
logical and thoughtful
1564
01:26:09,289 --> 01:26:11,583
and intelligent way than Linda.
1565
01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:15,587
Harris: I don't think she
misses going on the road.
1566
01:26:15,921 --> 01:26:18,590
I don't think she
misses making records.
1567
01:26:20,342 --> 01:26:23,303
I think she misses
singing with her friends
1568
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:26,390
and singing in the living room
with her family.
1569
01:26:28,558 --> 01:26:30,352
There's just no one
on the planet
1570
01:26:30,519 --> 01:26:34,648
that ever had or ever will
have a voice like Linda's.
1571
01:26:46,660 --> 01:26:48,554
Ronstadt: You know,
I'm grateful for the time I had.
1572
01:26:48,578 --> 01:26:52,165
I got to live a lot of my dreams
and I feel lucky about it.
1573
01:26:55,168 --> 01:26:57,449
Another person with Parkinson's
said that life after death
1574
01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:58,880
isn't the question.
1575
01:27:00,924 --> 01:27:02,759
It's life before death.
1576
01:27:05,429 --> 01:27:06,972
So how are you going to do it?
1577
01:27:08,181 --> 01:27:09,725
How are you going to live?
1578
01:28:06,281 --> 01:28:07,741
Couldn't find a part there.
1579
01:28:08,074 --> 01:28:09,367
Start right there.
1580
01:28:17,501 --> 01:28:19,741
I don't even have that note
in my speaking range anymore.
1581
01:28:21,421 --> 01:28:24,591
Interviewer: Before you said
you couldn't sing anymore.
1582
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,384
This isn't really singing.
1583
01:28:27,010 --> 01:28:29,763
Believe me, it's a few notes.
1584
01:28:29,930 --> 01:28:32,557
- But it's not really singing.
- Are you enjoying it?
1585
01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,535
Well, I would enjoy it much more
if I could sing
1586
01:28:34,559 --> 01:28:36,353
but I can't let them
sing this without me.
1587
01:28:37,354 --> 01:28:38,980
It's a family thing.
1588
01:28:39,523 --> 01:28:41,858
Shall we? You guys ready?
1589
01:29:59,519 --> 01:30:01,396
- Do we get to eat?
- Yes.
1590
01:30:01,563 --> 01:30:03,023
Good.
1591
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:06,401
I I've been cheated I
1592
01:30:06,818 --> 01:30:10,071
I been mistreated I
1593
01:30:10,488 --> 01:30:15,869
I when will I be loved? I
1594
01:30:17,787 --> 01:30:20,832
I I've been put down I
1595
01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:24,336
I I've been pushed around I
1596
01:30:24,753 --> 01:30:29,674
I when will I be loved? I
1597
01:30:31,843 --> 01:30:34,971
I when I find a new man I
1598
01:30:35,388 --> 01:30:37,849
I that I want for mine I
1599
01:30:38,808 --> 01:30:41,895
I always breaks
my heart in two I
1600
01:30:42,062 --> 01:30:46,775
I it happens every time I
1601
01:30:47,859 --> 01:30:50,987
I I've been made blue I
1602
01:30:51,321 --> 01:30:54,449
I I've been lied to I
1603
01:30:54,908 --> 01:31:00,038
I when will I be loved? I
1604
01:31:16,304 --> 01:31:19,307
I when I find a new man I
1605
01:31:19,724 --> 01:31:22,769
I that I want for mine I
1606
01:31:23,186 --> 01:31:26,314
I he always breaks
my heart in two I
1607
01:31:26,481 --> 01:31:31,152
I it happens every time I
1608
01:31:32,278 --> 01:31:35,281
I I've been cheated I
1609
01:31:35,782 --> 01:31:38,827
I been mistreated I
1610
01:31:39,327 --> 01:31:44,207
I when will I be loved? I
1611
01:31:46,668 --> 01:31:51,256
I when will I be loved? I
1612
01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:53,508
I tell me I
1613
01:31:53,675 --> 01:31:57,012
I when will I I
1614
01:31:57,345 --> 01:31:59,097
ibel
1615
01:32:00,056 --> 01:32:04,936
I loved? I
1616
01:32:20,535 --> 01:32:23,163
I where have you gone? I
1617
01:32:23,329 --> 01:32:25,915
I my darling one I
1618
01:32:26,374 --> 01:32:28,877
I are you on your own? I
1619
01:32:29,502 --> 01:32:31,880
I are you having fun? I
1620
01:32:32,297 --> 01:32:35,216
I is there someone to hold I
1621
01:32:35,467 --> 01:32:38,178
I when you need it bad? I
1622
01:32:38,470 --> 01:32:41,306
I is it uncontrolled? I
1623
01:32:41,598 --> 01:32:46,644
I like the love we had? I
1624
01:32:47,771 --> 01:32:50,106
I does the day go by I
1625
01:32:50,732 --> 01:32:53,109
I like a memory? I
1626
01:32:53,777 --> 01:32:56,529
I do you ever try I
1627
01:32:56,696 --> 01:32:59,365
I to remember me? I
1628
01:32:59,866 --> 01:33:02,786
I in an automobile I
1629
01:33:02,952 --> 01:33:05,455
I or a crowded bar I
1630
01:33:05,914 --> 01:33:08,500
I well I hope you're all right I
1631
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:13,755
I wherever you are I
1632
01:33:14,672 --> 01:33:19,260
I if you're still within
the sound of my voice I
1633
01:33:19,928 --> 01:33:23,473
I over some radio I
1634
01:33:23,765 --> 01:33:26,643
I I just want you to know I
1635
01:33:26,851 --> 01:33:31,231
I you were always
my only choice I
1636
01:33:32,982 --> 01:33:35,568
I and wherever you go I
1637
01:33:35,902 --> 01:33:38,822
I that I still love you so I
1638
01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:43,827
I if you're still within
the sound of my voice I
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