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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:03,564 Johnny cash: Right now I'd like you to meet a young lady, 2 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:05,148 a very lovely young lady, 3 00:01:05,315 --> 00:01:07,609 that I really think has what it takes to be around 4 00:01:07,776 --> 00:01:10,112 for a long, long time to come. 5 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:12,990 I'd like you to meet Ms. Linda ronstadt. 6 00:01:17,452 --> 00:01:19,454 J“ feelin' better j' 7 00:01:19,621 --> 00:01:21,623 j“ now that we 're through j' 8 00:01:21,790 --> 00:01:23,458 j“ feelin' better j' 9 00:01:23,625 --> 00:01:26,086 j“ 'cause I'm over you j“ 10 00:01:26,253 --> 00:01:28,005 j“ I learned my lesson j“ 11 00:01:28,171 --> 00:01:30,173 j“ it left a scar j“ 12 00:01:30,340 --> 00:01:33,927 I now I see how you really are I 13 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:36,138 j“ you're no good you're no good j“ 14 00:01:36,305 --> 00:01:40,350 j“ you're no good baby, you're no good j“ 15 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:42,894 j“ I'm gonna say it again j“ 16 00:01:43,061 --> 00:01:45,022 j“ you're no good you're no good j“ 17 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:48,108 j“ you're no good baby, you're no good j“ 18 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:49,901 here's a gal who really sings great. 19 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,863 We had her on the show last year and she was sensational. 20 00:01:53,697 --> 00:01:55,866 Dick cavett: My first guest occupies a prominent place 21 00:01:56,033 --> 00:01:57,451 in the top 40 record charts 22 00:01:57,618 --> 00:01:59,119 and she has a big one right now. 23 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:01,598 Hugh Hefner: Linda ronstadt is one of the really great talents 24 00:02:01,622 --> 00:02:02,664 in country music. 25 00:02:02,831 --> 00:02:04,666 Would you welcome please Linda ronstadt. 26 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:06,433 Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Linda ronstadt. 27 00:02:06,543 --> 00:02:10,005 J“ now baby and I'm going my way j“ 28 00:02:10,172 --> 00:02:11,923 j“ forget about you, baby j“ 29 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:13,925 j“ 'cause I'm ieavin' to stay j“ 30 00:02:14,092 --> 00:02:15,093 j“ you're no good... j' 31 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:18,597 Linda could literally sing anything. 32 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:20,557 J“ no good J“ 33 00:02:20,724 --> 00:02:23,077 Bonnie Raitt: I don't think anybody has tried more different styles 34 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:25,020 and nailed it than Linda has. 35 00:02:25,771 --> 00:02:28,982 There's not that many people that can pull off new wave music 36 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:31,568 and rock and the most beautiful country ballads. 37 00:02:31,735 --> 00:02:33,695 Her range is huge. 38 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:37,366 John boylan: She decided what she wanted to do. 39 00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:42,537 More important what she was authentic at doing. 40 00:02:42,788 --> 00:02:44,831 And they always told her no, you can't do this, 41 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:46,041 you'll ruin your career. 42 00:02:46,208 --> 00:02:47,459 She did it anyway. 43 00:02:47,626 --> 00:02:50,629 J“ good j“ 44 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:10,774 Linda ronstadt: Someone once asked me why people sing. 45 00:03:12,984 --> 00:03:15,153 I answered that they sing for many of the same reasons 46 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,655 birds sing. 47 00:03:18,281 --> 00:03:19,825 They sing for a mate. 48 00:03:21,368 --> 00:03:23,036 To claim their territory. 49 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:26,790 Or simply to give voice to the delight of being alive 50 00:03:26,957 --> 00:03:28,959 in the midst of a beautiful day. 51 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:33,964 They sing so the subsequent generations won't forget what 52 00:03:34,131 --> 00:03:38,301 the current generations endured or dreamed or delighted in. 53 00:03:42,139 --> 00:03:44,433 There are a lot of really good singers out in the world. 54 00:03:44,975 --> 00:03:47,144 A lot of better singers than I am. 55 00:03:49,521 --> 00:03:51,982 What I did that was different from other singers, 56 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:54,484 I did a whole lot of different kinds of material. 57 00:03:56,153 --> 00:03:58,313 People would think that I was trying to reinvent myself 58 00:03:58,447 --> 00:04:00,087 but I never invented myself to start with. 59 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,534 I just kind of popped out into the world. 60 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,460 My mom grew up in Michigan. 61 00:04:13,211 --> 00:04:14,963 Her dad was an inventor. 62 00:04:16,131 --> 00:04:18,049 He was the third to Thomas Edison in the number 63 00:04:18,216 --> 00:04:20,594 of useful inventions in the 50s. 64 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:25,140 He invented the electric stove, the electric toaster. 65 00:04:27,726 --> 00:04:29,811 The thermostat for westinghouse. 66 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:35,066 But my grandmother had Parkinson's disease 67 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:37,986 and he spent all his money trying to find a cure. 68 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:41,072 And that's what I have now. 69 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:46,203 My mom was really smart too. 70 00:04:46,411 --> 00:04:48,205 She wanted to study math and physics 71 00:04:48,371 --> 00:04:51,082 and the university of Arizona was really good for that. 72 00:04:51,249 --> 00:04:54,169 She came out to Tucson where she met my father. 73 00:04:55,462 --> 00:04:57,339 My great grandfather friedrich ronstadt 74 00:04:57,506 --> 00:05:00,217 came from Germany to Mexico in 1839. 75 00:05:00,675 --> 00:05:04,596 My father's father, federico, moved to Tucson when he was 14 76 00:05:04,763 --> 00:05:06,389 to work as a wagon maker. 77 00:05:06,848 --> 00:05:08,809 But his true passion was music. 78 00:05:13,438 --> 00:05:16,983 So he started the club filarmonico tucsonense. 79 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:20,278 He was the one who wrote the arrangements 80 00:05:20,445 --> 00:05:22,739 and taught everybody how to play their instruments. 81 00:05:23,031 --> 00:05:24,658 He was like the music man. 82 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,719 If you wanted to serenade your sweetheart, 83 00:05:26,743 --> 00:05:29,162 you'd get my grandfather's band to go. 84 00:05:29,412 --> 00:05:31,498 And if you had a wedding or a funeral, 85 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:33,083 well, they'd show up for that. 86 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:39,673 First time my mother ever saw my dad he was riding his horse 87 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,008 up the steps of her sorority house. 88 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:47,055 My dad had a lovely baritone tenor voice 89 00:05:47,222 --> 00:05:49,140 and knew a lot of beautiful Mexican love songs 90 00:05:49,307 --> 00:05:51,226 that were rooted in his childhood. 91 00:05:53,979 --> 00:05:56,481 He serenaded my mother underneath her balcony. 92 00:06:00,569 --> 00:06:02,696 And she fell big for him. 93 00:06:05,949 --> 00:06:08,451 J“ I'm a rambler j“ 94 00:06:09,286 --> 00:06:11,454 j“ I'm a gambler j“ 95 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:18,128 j“ I'm a long way from home j“ 96 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:20,255 j“ if you people j“ 97 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:23,633 j“ don't like me j' 98 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:29,890 j“ you can leave me alone j“ 99 00:06:30,849 --> 00:06:32,517 ronstadt: I grew up in Tucson 100 00:06:32,684 --> 00:06:35,562 on the last ten acres of my grandfather's cattle ranch. 101 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:39,399 We were very isolated so if you wanted entertainment 102 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:41,443 you kind of had to make your own. 103 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:46,364 There was a lot of music going on in that house. 104 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:48,617 Some of it came in through the radio. 105 00:06:48,783 --> 00:06:51,161 That was my best friend in the world. 106 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:53,079 J“ how's about cooking... j“ 107 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:55,665 we had an amazing radio in Tucson 108 00:06:55,832 --> 00:06:57,959 because it was really close to the border. 109 00:07:04,174 --> 00:07:05,759 We could get the Louisiana hayride. 110 00:07:05,926 --> 00:07:08,553 J“ get goin' Louisiana hayride j“ 111 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,806 j“ no use for callin' de roll j“ 112 00:07:11,973 --> 00:07:13,642 j“ can't help... j“ 113 00:07:13,808 --> 00:07:14,976 ronstadt: American standards. 114 00:07:15,143 --> 00:07:19,147 J“ ...Loving that man of mine I 115 00:07:19,314 --> 00:07:20,708 ronstadt: But my grandmother and grandfather 116 00:07:20,732 --> 00:07:22,651 were classical music devotees. 117 00:07:28,073 --> 00:07:30,283 So I would go over to their house on Saturday morning 118 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:34,245 and listen to a live broadcast from the metropolitan opera 119 00:07:34,871 --> 00:07:37,016 and come home and my dad would be playing Mexican songs 120 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,833 on the piano. My mom would be playing 121 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,877 some Gilbert and Sullivan piece. 122 00:07:41,044 --> 00:07:43,922 J“ true peace of mind j“ 123 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:45,732 ronstadt: My sister loved Hank Williams. 124 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:47,592 She loved country music. 125 00:07:47,842 --> 00:07:49,761 J“ I can't help it j“ 126 00:07:49,928 --> 00:07:53,848 j“ if I'm still in love with you I 127 00:07:54,015 --> 00:07:56,518 my brother would be singing really high soprano. 128 00:07:58,395 --> 00:08:02,482 He was in a world-class boys choir and he was their soloist. 129 00:08:02,899 --> 00:08:05,652 She wanted to know how to sing so I taught her. 130 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:07,755 So she learned about vibrato and all that kind of stuff 131 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:09,739 when she was like five, six years old. 132 00:08:12,534 --> 00:08:15,120 Linda ronstadt: We learned so much about singing from each other. 133 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:18,707 It was completely incorporated into what we did. 134 00:08:18,915 --> 00:08:21,543 We sang at the dinner table, we sang in the car, 135 00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:23,837 we sang with our hands in the dishwater. 136 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:28,216 I thought Spanish was this magical musical language. 137 00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:32,512 When I was growing up I thought people sang in Spanish 138 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,139 and spoke in English. 139 00:08:35,056 --> 00:08:37,308 If you spoke Spanish on the playground you'd be punished. 140 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:39,227 You weren't allowed to do it. 141 00:08:43,064 --> 00:08:44,625 My sister and brother and I eventually formed 142 00:08:44,649 --> 00:08:46,002 a little group. We called ourselves 143 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:47,986 the new union ramblers. 144 00:08:48,153 --> 00:08:50,196 We thought that sounded folky. 145 00:08:51,197 --> 00:08:54,868 Bobby kimmel was a guitar player that I met in Tucson. 146 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:57,245 He wrote songs about his own life. 147 00:08:57,829 --> 00:09:00,290 I remember them being one of the best vocal groups 148 00:09:00,457 --> 00:09:01,875 I had ever heard. 149 00:09:05,253 --> 00:09:07,213 Ronstadt: Bobby joined our family group 150 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:10,550 and then he and I used to play as a duet sometimes. 151 00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:15,289 We played little clubs in Tucson but there wasn't very much 152 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:17,307 opportunity for us there. 153 00:09:19,809 --> 00:09:23,438 At some point reality stepped in and my sister had three kids. 154 00:09:24,647 --> 00:09:27,358 And then my brother went to work for the police department. 155 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:32,447 Bobby wanted to earn some money playing music. 156 00:09:33,448 --> 00:09:35,492 So he went off to California. 157 00:09:36,868 --> 00:09:38,787 And I was the last man standing. 158 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:44,334 I all the leaves are brown J' 159 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:48,254 kimmel: I went to la with the intention of forming a band. 160 00:09:49,756 --> 00:09:53,843 When I saw the quality of the singers that were out there 161 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:56,471 I started writing to Linda saying 162 00:09:56,638 --> 00:10:01,518 if you come out we could form a band and get a record deal. 163 00:10:03,311 --> 00:10:05,939 Ronstadt: I knew they had more clubs to play in Los Angeles. 164 00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:09,484 J“ California dreaming J“ 165 00:10:10,068 --> 00:10:12,046 Pete ronstadt: I was telling her this is kind of an iffy thing. 166 00:10:12,070 --> 00:10:13,798 You might starve to death or you might find yourself 167 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:16,032 washing dishes and waiting tables 168 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:17,784 before you ever get discovered. 169 00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:19,994 She says I'm willing to take the chance. 170 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,456 Linda ronstadt: I was 18 years old. 171 00:10:24,707 --> 00:10:27,085 We had a house on the beach for 80 bucks a month 172 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:28,545 in Santa Monica. 173 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,630 We split the rent three ways. 174 00:10:30,797 --> 00:10:33,925 It was just great. It was right on the beach. 175 00:10:37,387 --> 00:10:40,348 Kimmel: Once she got there we got to work right away 176 00:10:40,515 --> 00:10:42,642 and we used to practice every day. 177 00:10:46,521 --> 00:10:48,624 Ronstadt: Bobby introduced me to a really good guitar player 178 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:50,900 named Kenny Edwards and we formed a little band 179 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:53,027 and we called ourselves the stone poneys. 180 00:10:53,194 --> 00:10:54,988 J“ look out your window j“ 181 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:58,074 j“ the rain is turning into snow j“ 182 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,743 we started playing little beatnik dives 183 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:03,663 and strange pizza parlors, wherever we could get a job. 184 00:11:03,955 --> 00:11:05,748 J“ oh how you love me... I 185 00:11:05,915 --> 00:11:09,169 there was the trip where I heard this band called the byrds. 186 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:10,879 They had a light show 187 00:11:11,045 --> 00:11:13,715 and a lot of acid tripping kind of stuff going on. 188 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:17,302 The whiskey a go go was very rock and roll. 189 00:11:17,468 --> 00:11:19,012 I heard the doors there and I thought 190 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:22,015 oh they're be a really hit band if they get rid of their singer. 191 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:25,393 J“ go, love open up the door... j“ 192 00:11:26,269 --> 00:11:27,854 ronstadt: There was the ash grove. 193 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:30,565 That was where you go for authentic folk music. 194 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:32,442 It's where I first heard ry cooder. 195 00:11:32,609 --> 00:11:38,198 J“ have you seen that vigilante man? J“ 196 00:11:40,283 --> 00:11:42,523 ry cooder was then and now the most amazing guitar player 197 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:44,037 I've ever heard. 198 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,964 I knew that had good musicians in Los Angeles 199 00:11:46,122 --> 00:11:47,707 but this guy is really something. 200 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:49,042 I thought I'm staying here. 201 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:50,919 I'm not going back to Tucson to live. 202 00:11:51,085 --> 00:11:53,713 J“ all over the land I 203 00:11:58,843 --> 00:12:01,721 Ry cooder: She came to Los Angeles at a time 204 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:05,099 when the la rock and roll scene was in gear and was going. 205 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:07,769 Because, see, after the byrds did their thing 206 00:12:07,936 --> 00:12:09,187 with Mr. Tambourine man, 207 00:12:09,354 --> 00:12:11,356 then the whole damn thing broke loose 208 00:12:11,522 --> 00:12:13,733 and all the record companies went scurrying around 209 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:17,695 like headless chickens trying to figure out what to do. 210 00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:19,697 Who can sing folk rock 211 00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:23,785 and how can we define what this thing is going to be? 212 00:12:24,786 --> 00:12:28,748 J“ hey Mr. Tambourine man j' 213 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:30,667 j“ play a song for me j“ 214 00:12:30,833 --> 00:12:32,353 Don henley: There was a lot of cross pollination 215 00:12:32,377 --> 00:12:34,796 that started happening in the mid-60s, you know, 216 00:12:34,963 --> 00:12:37,882 country music and folk music and rock music started 217 00:12:38,049 --> 00:12:41,886 commingling and blending and you would get all these hybrids. 218 00:12:44,055 --> 00:12:47,183 TV anchor: The troubadour, just a few blocks from Hollywood boulevard, 219 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:49,936 is known as an avant garde cafe. 220 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:53,356 It's the favorite of Hollywood's young and young at heart. 221 00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:56,460 Ronstadt: The troubadour was where everybody went to hang out 222 00:12:56,484 --> 00:12:57,860 and to be noticed. 223 00:12:58,027 --> 00:13:00,005 You wanted to make yourself known to the record community at 224 00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:03,449 large, you go to the troubadour, play an open mic night. 225 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:06,345 Jd souther: I can't even name all the great songwriters 226 00:13:06,369 --> 00:13:07,495 that came through there. 227 00:13:07,662 --> 00:13:10,206 I mean, Laura nyro, Neil young, 228 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:12,208 joni Mitchell, Tim hardin, 229 00:13:12,375 --> 00:13:15,712 kris kristofferson, Rick Nelson, Elton John, 230 00:13:15,878 --> 00:13:17,255 Jackson browne. 231 00:13:17,422 --> 00:13:19,507 It was just week after week of amazing, 232 00:13:19,674 --> 00:13:21,551 game-changing songwriters. 233 00:13:21,884 --> 00:13:24,679 J“ some of them were dreamers j“ 234 00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:29,267 j“ some of them were fools j“ 235 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:32,312 j“ who were making plans j“ 236 00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:35,356 j“ and thinking of the future j“ 237 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,817 I mean, you tried to get a gig at the troubadour. 238 00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:39,819 You wanted to play the troubadour. 239 00:13:39,986 --> 00:13:42,864 All kinds of industry people hung around in the bar. 240 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:44,967 Robert hilburn: The troubadour is important because 241 00:13:44,991 --> 00:13:46,409 that's where you can get seen. 242 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:47,994 It was the place to play. 243 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:49,620 Like the minor leagues in baseball. 244 00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:52,457 This was your chance, this was your great chance. 245 00:13:53,541 --> 00:13:55,793 David geffen: The troubadour was a bustling place. 246 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,172 They had a hootenanny night where new artists would come 247 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:02,091 and sing a few songs and I used to go to every hootenanny night 248 00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:04,260 to see if there was anybody really talented. 249 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,929 Browne: The hoot, the Monday night open mic hootenanny 250 00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:08,890 where you'd wait and get on the list 251 00:14:09,057 --> 00:14:10,737 and you go up there and sing your new song. 252 00:14:26,824 --> 00:14:28,284 Souther: You got two or three songs. 253 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:30,828 If you were no good you probably didn't last the second song 254 00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:33,831 because were, "hey, get off!" 255 00:14:33,998 --> 00:14:36,125 And maybe not even the first song. 256 00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:43,800 J“ oh, you and I, travel to the beat of a different drum... j“ 257 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:45,527 ronstadt: I heard a song called different drum 258 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:47,762 by this bluegrass group called the greenbriar boys. 259 00:14:47,929 --> 00:14:49,931 J“ every time you make... j“ 260 00:14:50,098 --> 00:14:51,599 it was written by Mike nesmith 261 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:53,643 who was eventually going to join the monkees. 262 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:58,981 J“ you cry and moan and say it will work out j“ 263 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:03,111 I but honey child I've got my doubts j“ 264 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:06,864 j“ you can't see the forest for the trees j“ 265 00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:12,578 j“ so don't get me wrong it's not that I knock it j“ 266 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:15,873 j“ it's just that I am not in the market I 267 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:22,380 j“ for a boy who wants to love only me j“ 268 00:15:22,672 --> 00:15:24,799 ronstadt: We got an immediate response from managers 269 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:27,468 and people who were interested in our career. 270 00:15:28,219 --> 00:15:31,389 Kimmel: Herb Cohen was managing frank zappa. 271 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,392 We had heard that he had been a soldier of fortune. 272 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:36,477 He may have killed somebody. 273 00:15:36,644 --> 00:15:38,187 He was a badass. 274 00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:41,607 But he was established and he immediately said, 275 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,651 "I can get you a record deal." 276 00:15:43,818 --> 00:15:48,906 J“ I believe and I see no sense... I 277 00:15:49,073 --> 00:15:52,535 we recorded a few things, just the three of us. 278 00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:56,038 Then he took those to the people in power 279 00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:58,916 and said, "I want to record these guys." 280 00:16:00,585 --> 00:16:02,044 Capitol said okay. 281 00:16:02,211 --> 00:16:04,881 We signed papers and we were off and running. 282 00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:08,342 J“ live without me j“ 283 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:11,947 ronstadt: So we recorded it with a mandolin 284 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:14,140 and a couple of acoustic guitars 285 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:16,058 and the record company didn't like it. 286 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:19,228 And so they said well come back, we want to recut the song. 287 00:16:19,729 --> 00:16:23,107 Kimmel: Suddenly everything changed in the studio. 288 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:25,085 Ronstadt: They had a bunch of strings in there 289 00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:27,171 and it was an orchestra session. I went wait a minute, 290 00:16:27,195 --> 00:16:28,915 this isn't the way I thought about the song. 291 00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:33,802 I said I don't want to put it on the record because 292 00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:35,870 that wasn't the way I'd originally envisioned it. 293 00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:41,167 J“ you and I count to the beat of a different drum j“ 294 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:45,546 j“ oh can't you tell by the way I run j“ 295 00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:48,716 j“ every time you make eyes at me j“ 296 00:16:48,883 --> 00:16:50,402 ronstadt: It was a good thing they didn't listen to me 297 00:16:50,426 --> 00:16:52,261 because it was a huge hit. 298 00:16:52,428 --> 00:16:54,656 Pete ronstadt: I'm driving down the road, you know, in my car 299 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,308 listening to ktkt radio and all of a sudden 300 00:16:57,475 --> 00:16:59,352 she's singing different drum. 301 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,229 I said wait a minute! 302 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:05,209 Bonnie Raitt: I loved her voice from the first time I heard her. 303 00:17:05,233 --> 00:17:06,901 I was a freshman in college. 304 00:17:07,068 --> 00:17:08,819 The stone poneys, different drum. 305 00:17:08,986 --> 00:17:10,196 Yeah, baby! 306 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:12,073 It was just like wow! 307 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,285 It was just like to pull back the covering 308 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:19,789 of a fully developed vocal stylist. 309 00:17:21,999 --> 00:17:26,587 J“ yes and I ain't sayin' you ain't pretty j“ 310 00:17:26,754 --> 00:17:30,383 j“ all I'm sayin' I'm not ready j“ 311 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:34,512 hilburn: Most of the time as a critic you're sitting there saying, 312 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:37,557 "we don't give the artist a plus for this and a minus for this. 313 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:40,059 This is kind of good, that's not so good." 314 00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:42,353 Bang! It was like a home run. 315 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,188 J“ goodbye! J“ 316 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:45,731 j“ ibelieve in a... j“ 317 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:48,276 kimmel: We were out on this tour 318 00:17:48,442 --> 00:17:52,572 and herby Cohen comes to my hotel room and says, 319 00:17:52,738 --> 00:17:56,450 "I need to tell you that when we get back to la, 320 00:17:56,617 --> 00:17:58,327 the band is breaking up." 321 00:17:58,536 --> 00:18:01,330 Everybody said, "I don't know about you two guys 322 00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:03,583 but we want the girl singer." 323 00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:08,129 Ronstadt: The record company wanted to develop me as a solo artist. 324 00:18:08,796 --> 00:18:12,300 Kenny decided to go off to India and find a guru and meditate. 325 00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:15,928 And Bobby started a folk club in la called McCabe's. 326 00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:18,848 And I was left with what in the world to sing. 327 00:18:19,015 --> 00:18:20,266 I was by myself. 328 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,727 A Harmony singer with no material. 329 00:18:23,185 --> 00:18:25,980 Hilburn: The remarkable thing about the stone poney days was 330 00:18:26,147 --> 00:18:28,899 she had the nerve to leave a male band 331 00:18:29,066 --> 00:18:31,902 after it had already had a hit and go on her own. 332 00:18:32,069 --> 00:18:33,904 Will you welcome please Ms. Linda ronstadt? 333 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,409 Ronstadt, ronstadt. 334 00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,203 Did anyone ever suggest that that isn't the most musical name 335 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:42,622 in the world? 336 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:45,958 That maybe you should change it to Linda Marlow or... 337 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,209 Is there a Linda Marlow? 338 00:18:47,376 --> 00:18:50,338 And once they learn how to pronounce my name, 339 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:52,673 that leads to free-for-all kinds of variations. 340 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,426 Glenn Campbell once called me Linda bedstead. 341 00:18:55,593 --> 00:18:57,428 You know, I remember you when you were nothing 342 00:18:57,595 --> 00:18:59,138 but a little stone poney. 343 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:00,473 Oh yeah? 344 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,160 I didn't have any idea what that means. 345 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:05,311 I know that you were part of a group, right? 346 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,247 Let's see, how do I explain this on television 347 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:08,439 and not get yelled at. 348 00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:09,982 Cavett: Oh, then maybe you don't. 349 00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:12,902 - I think I don't. - Oh, yeah? 350 00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:14,737 0h, is it an inside meaning? 351 00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:17,406 Yeah, it has a lot of different... 352 00:19:17,615 --> 00:19:20,242 J“ love will abide j“ 353 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,289 j“ take things in stride j“ 354 00:19:28,042 --> 00:19:31,712 j“ sounds like good advice I 355 00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:36,133 j“ but there's no one at my side j“ 356 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:41,347 j“ and time washes clean j“ 357 00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:46,644 j“ love's wounds unseen j' 358 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:53,109 j“ that's what someone told me j“ 359 00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:57,405 j“ but I don't know what it means j“ 360 00:19:57,571 --> 00:20:00,700 j“ 'cause I've j“ 361 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:04,453 j“ done everything I know j“ 362 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,207 j“ to try to make you mine j“ 363 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:13,838 j“ and I think it's gonna hurt me j“ 364 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:19,135 j“ for a long, long time I 365 00:20:19,593 --> 00:20:24,849 j“ but I've done everything I know I 366 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:30,020 j“ to try to make you mine j“ 367 00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:34,900 j“ think I'm gonna love you I 368 00:20:35,526 --> 00:20:40,573 I for a long, long time I 369 00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:43,117 I met her in the troubadour. 370 00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:46,036 She had this hit called long, long time. 371 00:20:48,539 --> 00:20:50,124 Apparently she knew who I was 372 00:20:50,291 --> 00:20:53,002 based on a record I'd made with Ricky Nelson. 373 00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:59,592 She said I like that band you put together for Rick Nelson. 374 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:01,385 Could you do that for me? 375 00:21:01,802 --> 00:21:04,221 I she's got everything she needs I 376 00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:05,890 I she's an artist I 377 00:21:06,056 --> 00:21:08,684 I she don't look back I 378 00:21:09,518 --> 00:21:12,021 herby Cohen was the manager when I met her. 379 00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:13,981 He gave me these tickets to Hawaii 380 00:21:14,148 --> 00:21:16,275 for the capitol records convention. 381 00:21:16,442 --> 00:21:18,778 Linda and I show up at San Francisco airport 382 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:22,740 to fly to Honolulu and lo and behold there was the FBI 383 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:25,826 to arrest us for receiving stolen property. 384 00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:28,871 Turns out herby had bought the tickets in the lobby 385 00:21:29,038 --> 00:21:30,956 of the building from some guy 386 00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,876 probably for 25 cents on the dollar 387 00:21:34,043 --> 00:21:35,920 and they were hotter than a two-dollar pistol. 388 00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:39,423 So we spent the day in jail. 389 00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:44,720 She fired herbie and asked me to fill in. 390 00:21:44,887 --> 00:21:49,141 I I don't want your lonely mansion I 391 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:51,077 ronstadt: I was walking through the troubadour one night 392 00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:52,853 on my way to the bathroom. 393 00:21:54,355 --> 00:21:57,316 This band Shiloh got up and did my exact version 394 00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:59,151 of silver threads and golden needles. 395 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:02,613 I silver threads and golden needles I 396 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:03,906 I just went, "what?" 397 00:22:04,073 --> 00:22:05,991 Does, you know, that solo, I thought, god! 398 00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:08,118 I was appalled that anyone would actually sit down 399 00:22:08,202 --> 00:22:11,997 with one of my records and learn the solo off it 400 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:14,208 like a led zeppelin record. 401 00:22:14,375 --> 00:22:16,794 And I heard the drummer and I thought he was really good. 402 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:19,380 Hilburn: The drummer was a guy named Don henley. 403 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,092 Henley: Linda's first solo album came out in '69 404 00:22:23,259 --> 00:22:26,595 and I moved to la in June of 1970. 405 00:22:27,221 --> 00:22:29,765 So my timing was pretty good. 406 00:22:30,099 --> 00:22:32,142 Hilburn: She'd had a bunch of dates back east 407 00:22:32,309 --> 00:22:34,311 and we needed to put the band together quickly. 408 00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:38,023 So I hired him for $250 a week. 409 00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,282 I rescue me I 410 00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:48,033 I I want you in my arms I 411 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,910 I rescue me I 412 00:22:50,077 --> 00:22:51,787 I I need your tender charm I 413 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:53,622 I 'cause I'm lonely I 414 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,833 henley: I knew who she was because I had her album. 415 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,669 I listened to that album a hundred times. 416 00:23:00,254 --> 00:23:03,632 She could seem vulnerable and very feminine 417 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,636 but when she opened her mouth to sing everything got different. 418 00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:10,097 It was just incredible. 419 00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:14,268 You knew that there was a very solid core 420 00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:16,270 and a very determined woman. 421 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,050 Souther: Just saw her walking past me in the troubadour 422 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:30,074 and she looked so cute. 423 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,368 I just grabbed her by the hand 424 00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,370 and I said I think you should cook me dinner. 425 00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:36,749 And she said okay and gave me her phone number. 426 00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:39,293 So I called her a couple days 427 00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:41,062 and I said, "well, you gonna cook me dinner?" 428 00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:42,886 She goes, "sure, come on over." I came on over 429 00:23:43,005 --> 00:23:45,549 and she made me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 430 00:23:46,467 --> 00:23:48,469 And I fell in love with her. 431 00:23:48,636 --> 00:23:50,512 Took her home and the next day I said, 432 00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:51,959 "listen, let's go get your stuff. 433 00:23:52,097 --> 00:23:53,307 You can live here with me." 434 00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:56,518 I I got a feeling called the blues, oh lord I 435 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,313 I since my baby said goodbye I 436 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,941 geffen: John David souther and Linda ronstadt. 437 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:03,192 They were a hot couple. 438 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,111 I all I do is sit and cry oh lord I 439 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:09,281 I that last long day he said goodbye I 440 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,618 jd had had a musical duo with a guy named Glenn frey. 441 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,916 Souther: He was my best friend and first songwriting partner. 442 00:24:20,668 --> 00:24:23,295 We really did nothing but just listen to music and play guitars 443 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:26,590 and try to write songs and then go to the troubadour. 444 00:24:28,425 --> 00:24:30,678 Ronstadt: Glenn frey played pretty good guitar. 445 00:24:31,053 --> 00:24:32,572 So I went and talked to Glenn and said, 446 00:24:32,596 --> 00:24:34,306 "do you want to do this tour with me?" 447 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,141 He said it would be really cool. 448 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:38,519 He'd never been on the road before. 449 00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:42,272 Henley: Glenn frey and I shared the $12 hotel room 450 00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:44,191 with two twin beds in it. 451 00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,026 It was a very modest tour. 452 00:24:46,193 --> 00:24:48,028 I mean, I remember being in station wagons. 453 00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:53,200 Ronstadt: Rooming together, Don and Glenn each discovered 454 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:55,786 that the other was a good singer and songwriter. 455 00:24:57,287 --> 00:25:01,000 Hilburn: And that's when they decided to get together and form a band. 456 00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:03,585 That band became the eagles. 457 00:25:06,463 --> 00:25:07,756 They wished us well. 458 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:11,218 John was very supportive, Linda was supportive 459 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,721 and they basically said just go for it. 460 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:19,018 We didn't have much success with desperado. 461 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:22,021 The record company didn't know what to do with it. 462 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:24,481 And then Linda made it into a classic. 463 00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:28,527 I desperado I 464 00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:33,866 I why don't you come to your senses I 465 00:25:34,074 --> 00:25:38,328 I come down from your fences I 466 00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:42,082 I and open the gate I 467 00:25:42,249 --> 00:25:44,501 I it may be raining I 468 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:49,923 I but there's a rainbow above you I 469 00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:54,678 I you better let somebody love you I 470 00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:58,348 I I 471 00:25:59,016 --> 00:26:04,063 I let somebody love you I 472 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:10,152 I before it is too I 473 00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:15,282 I late I 474 00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:43,161 Hilburn: I knew the Neil young tour was coming 475 00:26:43,185 --> 00:26:45,270 and I thought this'll be perfect for Linda 476 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:49,149 because she had sung backup on his big hit "heart of gold." 477 00:26:49,316 --> 00:26:52,111 So I called Neil's manager and I said, 478 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:54,696 "listen, Linda's the right opening act for this. 479 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:56,115 You've got to help me out." 480 00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:58,492 And they said, "well, Neil's gonna go out alone." 481 00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:01,787 I I want to live I 482 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,540 I I want to give I 483 00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:08,001 hilburn: Lo and behold like a week later he called me and he said, 484 00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:10,045 "Neil's done a few dates in Canada 485 00:27:10,212 --> 00:27:12,047 and it's getting him too tired. 486 00:27:12,214 --> 00:27:14,383 He now wants an opening act and you're it." 487 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,885 I I never give... I 488 00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:19,972 Linda was quite reluctant at the time. 489 00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,933 She was so worried about the idea of playing a huge 490 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,019 hockey arena tour at that point in her career. 491 00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:29,398 But we persuaded her that this would be a good thing. 492 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:34,361 Ronstadt: Thank you! 493 00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:38,282 Hilburn: You would occasionally get somebody: "We want Neil!" 494 00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:42,578 But by the time the tour got going, she was holding her own. 495 00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,998 I I've been cheated I 496 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,668 I been mistreated I 497 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:55,424 I when will I be loved? I 498 00:27:57,634 --> 00:28:00,637 I I've been put down I 499 00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:04,391 I I've been pushed 'round I 500 00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:10,022 I when will I be loved? I 501 00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:15,235 I when I find a new man I 502 00:28:15,944 --> 00:28:18,572 I that I want for mine I 503 00:28:19,573 --> 00:28:22,868 I always breaks my heart in two I 504 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:27,956 I it happens every time I 505 00:28:29,082 --> 00:28:30,834 I I've been... I 506 00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:34,171 Cameron Crowe: Here's Linda who I'd never seen live before, 507 00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:37,716 big stage, sold out, huge place. 508 00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:42,221 She comes out there and starts singing and that voice filled 509 00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:45,724 this arena where I had seen concerts for a long time. 510 00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,477 Nobody filled this arena with a voice like Linda ronstadt. 511 00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:50,729 And she just killed it. 512 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:55,108 She slaughtered this crowd who didn't come to see her 513 00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,319 but they sure left knowing who she was. 514 00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:02,741 Hilburn: We did 78 dates in 90 days. 515 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:06,578 We played before 18,000 to 20,000 people every night. 516 00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:12,793 Ronstadt: We got to Houston and there was this new girl singer. 517 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,211 Her name's emmylou. 518 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:19,132 Emmylou Harris: It was 1973 during the one tour I did with gram. 519 00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:23,512 I Calliope calling children are calling I 520 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:27,182 I in line to ride on the merry-go-round I 521 00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:29,077 ronstadt: Emmy started singing and three notes 522 00:29:29,101 --> 00:29:30,894 the entire place was dead quiet. 523 00:29:31,061 --> 00:29:33,522 It was like they had started mass or something. 524 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,608 And she was beautiful, this girl with the long hair 525 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,360 and big brown eyes and I thought 526 00:29:38,527 --> 00:29:40,946 she's doing exactly what I'm doing. 527 00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:42,489 She's doing it better. 528 00:29:42,656 --> 00:29:44,908 I do not worry how it's done... I 529 00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:47,536 and for a minute I thought well I can get jealous 530 00:29:47,703 --> 00:29:49,871 and then I won't be able to enjoy her singing. 531 00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:52,207 Or I can just become a slobbering, drooling fan 532 00:29:52,374 --> 00:29:54,251 like the rest of the people in the club. 533 00:29:54,418 --> 00:29:56,920 And hope that maybe I could get her to sing with me. 534 00:29:57,087 --> 00:30:00,173 So I chose the latter as one of the best decisions I ever made. 535 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,927 And Emmy and I became immediate music and social friends. 536 00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:11,310 Harris: Linda had a lot to do with lifting me up 537 00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:13,895 at a very, very low time in my life. 538 00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:18,859 I had been kind of on my way working with gram Parsons. 539 00:30:19,026 --> 00:30:21,194 I thought I'd found my voice, 540 00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:24,114 I had found something I love to do singing with him. 541 00:30:24,281 --> 00:30:26,283 I love hurts I 542 00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:30,162 I love scars I 543 00:30:31,288 --> 00:30:32,998 on the road to getting himself straight 544 00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:36,710 he was drinking a lot less, he was loving the work, 545 00:30:36,877 --> 00:30:40,130 we loved singing together, we had a record we'd just made, 546 00:30:40,297 --> 00:30:44,509 and apparently someone showed up with heroin 547 00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:49,181 which he hadn't done in a while and it killed him. 548 00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:53,435 It was devastating to lose him like that. 549 00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:59,024 It was Linda who stepped up as a friend 550 00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,109 and we had just met each other. 551 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:05,614 She brought me out to la, had me stay at her house 552 00:31:05,781 --> 00:31:07,783 and she talked about me to everybody. 553 00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:11,870 Said how great I was and genuinely loved my singing. 554 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:16,666 Genuinely made me feel like I had something to offer 555 00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:20,462 at a very low time in my life. 556 00:31:21,463 --> 00:31:23,632 I love hurts I 557 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,803 I save me I 558 00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:31,181 I free me I 559 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:34,351 I from love I 560 00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:36,895 I this time I 561 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:43,235 I well the train's gone I 562 00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:46,780 I down the track I 563 00:31:46,947 --> 00:31:52,744 I and I'm I'm left behind I 564 00:31:55,205 --> 00:31:58,792 Karla bonoff: Linda was always very tight with her girlfriends. 565 00:31:58,959 --> 00:32:01,169 They sang together, they shared music together, she was 566 00:32:01,336 --> 00:32:03,130 supportive of me. 567 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:08,051 I was writing songs and hoping to make my own record 568 00:32:08,218 --> 00:32:11,596 but of course Linda was really coming into her own 569 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,266 and starting to be really successful. 570 00:32:16,226 --> 00:32:18,395 I think a songwriter doing their songs is different 571 00:32:18,562 --> 00:32:20,689 than a singer do their songs. 572 00:32:20,856 --> 00:32:23,316 Some people prefer the songwriter doing them, some 573 00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:26,153 people prefer Linda doing them. 574 00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:27,863 But "lose again" she definitely made 575 00:32:28,029 --> 00:32:29,781 into a bigger song. 576 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,327 I but nothing can save me I 577 00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,413 I from this I ball and chain I 578 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,020 because I couldn't sing it like that. 579 00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:40,417 I I made up my mind I 580 00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:45,172 I I would leave today I 581 00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:49,676 I mean Linda came out and turned it into this power ballad. 582 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:52,345 I I know it's insane I 583 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:54,806 I because I love you I 584 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:59,186 I and lose again I 585 00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:03,023 I oh, I love you I 586 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:08,111 I and lose again I 587 00:33:15,744 --> 00:33:18,830 Bonoff: Back then there wasn't competition with women. 588 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,499 So I think, you know, women, 589 00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:22,125 there weren't that many of us either. 590 00:33:22,292 --> 00:33:25,420 So I think there was a certain amount of banding together 591 00:33:25,587 --> 00:33:27,964 to sort of share our woman part of it. 592 00:33:28,131 --> 00:33:29,966 This is a song off our new album. 593 00:33:31,593 --> 00:33:34,262 It's about a real special place called home. 594 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:37,349 That's a Karla bonoff song. 595 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:41,436 Bonoff: I had made a demo of home and we sent it off to Bonnie, 596 00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,856 just a complete long shot, and she decided to record it. 597 00:33:45,065 --> 00:33:47,526 I traveling at night I 598 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,862 I the headlights were bright I 599 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:54,950 I and soon the sun came through the trees I 600 00:33:56,993 --> 00:33:59,829 I around the next bend I 601 00:33:59,996 --> 00:34:02,791 I the flowers will send I 602 00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:07,254 I the sweet smell of home in the breeze I 603 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:10,298 Raitt: Linda and I are like sisters, around the same age 604 00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,300 and we were coming up and had the same mutual 605 00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:14,219 other musician friends and band members 606 00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:17,889 and, you know, it was a community of artists, 607 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:21,476 it wasn't sexually divided between just the women and men. 608 00:34:21,643 --> 00:34:23,353 We weren't thinking in terms of that. 609 00:34:24,437 --> 00:34:27,649 Crowe: Linda and Bonnie Raitt were two of the first women 610 00:34:27,816 --> 00:34:30,735 that I was able to see as a young journalist 611 00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,780 and study the way they operated in this community. 612 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,634 We're going to move into this world where we're running bands 613 00:34:36,658 --> 00:34:39,953 with guys in them but we can also look after each other. 614 00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:44,124 Raitt: I said if I can have it on my terms and you understand 615 00:34:44,291 --> 00:34:48,128 I'm not going to be told how to dress or what music to make. 616 00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:49,671 Great! 617 00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:52,382 We were all throwing away all those conventions, you know. 618 00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:57,238 Ronstadt: The rock and roll culture is so male dominated and it also seems 619 00:34:57,262 --> 00:35:00,599 to be dominated by sort of hostility against women. 620 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,684 That this sort of... 621 00:35:04,394 --> 00:35:09,524 Sort of sexual identity that is sort of used as a weapon 622 00:35:09,691 --> 00:35:11,693 against the populace and women in particular 623 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:13,737 and then everyone identifies with it. 624 00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:16,865 And it's sort of sad to me because what happens is that... 625 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:23,121 Is that rock and roll stars end up isolating themselves 626 00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,957 more and more and more, thereby increasing their own feelings of 627 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:29,502 alienation and anxiety and they wonder why they're so miserable. 628 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:33,173 That's really when they turn to drugs and destroy themselves. 629 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:35,842 It's just very silly. It just seems very silly. 630 00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:42,182 They lose the ability to focus on themselves as a person 631 00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:46,645 rather than as an image and that's very dangerous I think. 632 00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:49,481 And there are always a lot of people around them, 633 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:54,194 managers and scene makers, you know, groupies and whatever, 634 00:35:54,361 --> 00:35:57,113 that are willing to indulge them in anything they want. 635 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,950 It weakens them, it weakens them as people 636 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,411 and it eventually weakens them as musicians. 637 00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:08,833 I ibeen warped by the rain I 638 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,418 I driven by the snow I 639 00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:12,420 I I'm drunk and dirty I 640 00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:13,797 I don't you know I 641 00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:15,674 I but I'm still I 642 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:19,219 I willin' I 643 00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,391 I out on the road late last night I 644 00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:28,395 I I'd see my pretty Alice in every headlight I 645 00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:30,271 I Alice I 646 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:33,358 I Dallas Alice I 647 00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:38,071 I and I've been from Tucson to tucumcari I 648 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:41,741 I tehachapi to tonopah I 649 00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:46,538 I driven every kind of rig that's ever been made I 650 00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:49,666 Peter Asher: I was in New York and somebody said 651 00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:51,835 you have to go see this girl, she's amazing. 652 00:36:52,001 --> 00:36:54,129 She's one of the best singers you'll ever hear, 653 00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:55,714 she's brilliant. 654 00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:59,217 She's incredibly great looking, she sings barefoot 655 00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:02,804 and will knock you out in every respect and she did. 656 00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:09,477 I whites and wine I 657 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,523 I and you show me a sign I 658 00:37:14,149 --> 00:37:15,734 I and I'll be willin' I 659 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,236 I was running the Beatles record label apple. 660 00:37:18,403 --> 00:37:20,963 When apple started to fall apart and the Beatles were breaking up 661 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:23,992 and all of that I went to america 662 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,952 and there I was being a manager. 663 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:29,873 Hilburn: I wanted to go back to work as a record producer 664 00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,167 so I suggested Linda go and meet with Peter 665 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,170 which we did and he agreed to manage her. 666 00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:38,323 Browne: There was a high bar there. 667 00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:40,067 Peter Asher had hung around with the Beatles. 668 00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:43,219 He expected to make records that are huge successes 669 00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:45,472 and he was poised to do that with Linda 670 00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,932 and geffen was ready to be their record company 671 00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:49,684 that would be there. 672 00:37:52,645 --> 00:37:55,165 David geffen: I started asylum records and signed Jackson browne 673 00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:59,027 and then started signing other artists and it turned into what it did. 674 00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,118 And I knew when I saw Linda and the stone poneys 675 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,218 that she was gonna make it and she was gonna make it 676 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:09,913 as a solo artist and I knew she was going to be a big star. 677 00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:12,248 She didn't think so. 678 00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:15,543 She had very little confidence in those days. 679 00:38:17,837 --> 00:38:19,631 Linda was feeling like she wasn't good enough 680 00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:21,341 to be on asylum records. 681 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,845 I said to her that that was crazy. 682 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,557 Ronstadt: I'm never really satisfied with what I do. 683 00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:32,016 And lots of times I hear that I did something wrong 684 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:34,521 and it bothers me, it can ruin my day really. 685 00:38:34,896 --> 00:38:38,066 Asher: Linda never thought she was as good as she was 686 00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:40,693 and that is an interesting paradox 687 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:42,987 because she's confident about her ideas 688 00:38:43,154 --> 00:38:45,824 but not about herself and not about her singing. 689 00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:50,787 My involvement as a producer with Linda came when she was 690 00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:54,457 having trouble finishing the album that became don't cry now. 691 00:38:55,124 --> 00:38:58,086 And that's when we decided that the next album I would produce 692 00:38:58,253 --> 00:38:59,462 was heart like a wheel. 693 00:38:59,629 --> 00:39:04,467 I some say a heart is just like a wheel I 694 00:39:04,634 --> 00:39:06,636 I when you bend it I 695 00:39:06,803 --> 00:39:08,429 I you can't mend it I 696 00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:11,724 ronstadt: The mcgarrigle sisters, who were these two Canadian sisters, 697 00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:13,309 they were in an odd category. 698 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,937 They didn't fit in pop music, they didn't fit in folk music, 699 00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:18,940 they didn't fit anywhere except they fit in my heart. 700 00:39:19,107 --> 00:39:20,387 We just heard heart like a wheel, 701 00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:22,151 then I went I have to sing it. 702 00:39:23,236 --> 00:39:26,698 I when harm is done I 703 00:39:26,948 --> 00:39:30,159 I no love can be won I 704 00:39:30,326 --> 00:39:33,621 I I know it happens I 705 00:39:33,788 --> 00:39:36,875 I frequently I 706 00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:40,086 I but I can't... I 707 00:39:40,253 --> 00:39:44,549 parton: Linda has the ability to hear a song and claim it. 708 00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,759 You claim it as your own as a singer. 709 00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:49,721 If you love it like that you get inside it. 710 00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,180 You become it. 711 00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:58,688 I but my love for you is like a sinking ship I 712 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:07,230 I and my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean I 713 00:40:10,992 --> 00:40:12,928 Asher: Heart like a wheel, she discovered that song, 714 00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:14,232 brought it to me and I loved it. 715 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:16,748 I thought it was beautiful but I was also thinking 716 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,416 in terms of we should make some hits. 717 00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,084 I feelin' better I 718 00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:22,378 I now that we 're through I 719 00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,631 I feelin' better I 720 00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,466 I 'cause I'm over you I 721 00:40:26,633 --> 00:40:28,444 ronstadt: I'm a ballad singer, I like to sing ballads best 722 00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:31,095 but we needed some up-tempo songs for the record 723 00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:32,931 and as an afterthought I had this song 724 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:35,433 that we'd used to close the show. 725 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,268 I you're no good you're no good I 726 00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:41,147 I you're no good baby, you're no good I 727 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,816 I I'm gonna say it again I 728 00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:46,027 I you're no good you're no good I 729 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:50,239 I you're no good baby, you're no good I 730 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,177 Asher: She knew and loved the song, I knew and loved the song, 731 00:40:53,201 --> 00:40:56,245 and we decided to do a version of that song. 732 00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:03,127 I stayed up all night assembling this very complicated, 733 00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:06,255 intricate layered guitar piece. 734 00:41:06,673 --> 00:41:10,051 We worked very long into like the next afternoon. 735 00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:12,971 And that's when Linda turned up and didn't like it. 736 00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:17,183 She said, "oh, I don't like it. It sounds like the Beatles," 737 00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:18,710 which it did sound like the Beatles 738 00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:20,353 but in the end she came around and said, 739 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,647 "you know what, I was wrong. It's great." 740 00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:39,330 I I'm tellin' you now baby and I'm going my way 741 00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:44,711 I forget about you, baby 'cause I'm leaving to stay 742 00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:46,438 ronstadt: Every song that I sing has a face 743 00:41:46,462 --> 00:41:48,172 that I sing it to, you know. 744 00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:52,677 And so when something happens to me, 745 00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,554 it's really funny, I know so many songs. 746 00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:56,180 When something happens to me 747 00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:57,932 the song will occur at the same time. 748 00:41:58,099 --> 00:42:00,101 I'll think oh, this song or that song, you know. 749 00:42:00,268 --> 00:42:02,037 And if it's a song I can sing then I'll have to sing it, 750 00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:04,897 I'll just burn to sing it. I can't not sing it. 751 00:42:05,064 --> 00:42:08,901 I ipassed you on the street I 752 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,364 I and my heart fell at your feet I 753 00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:15,616 I I can't help it I 754 00:42:15,783 --> 00:42:20,455 I if I'm still in love with you I 755 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:24,208 we would make the assumption that I was choosing the songs 756 00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:26,627 that we would do on these records or that I was working 757 00:42:26,794 --> 00:42:29,005 out the arrangements or this, that, and the other. 758 00:42:29,172 --> 00:42:30,798 And I would have to keep explaining that 759 00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,551 it was Linda and me in that order. 760 00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:37,972 I still in love with you I 761 00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:41,783 ronstadt: My sister used to play all these Hank Williams records. 762 00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:44,187 So I thought I can do that. 763 00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:48,608 I came slowly stealing I 764 00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:51,903 I as I brushed your arm I 765 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:55,656 I and stood so close to you... I 766 00:42:55,823 --> 00:42:57,784 souther: Linda knew a good song 767 00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:59,720 and she knew why it was good and better than that 768 00:42:59,744 --> 00:43:01,664 she knew how to sing it better than you can sing. 769 00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:06,250 When you become that sharp of a song stylist, 770 00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,128 you get authorship in a certain way. 771 00:43:09,295 --> 00:43:11,714 I consider her a real author. 772 00:43:11,881 --> 00:43:15,343 She didn't write songs but she made songs happen 773 00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:16,886 the way she wanted to hear them. 774 00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:22,100 I I can't help it if I'm still in love with you I 775 00:43:22,642 --> 00:43:24,802 ronstadt: I can't help it if I'm still in love with you 776 00:43:24,852 --> 00:43:26,604 was a hit on the country charts. 777 00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:30,525 You're no good was a hit on both the R&B chart and the pop chart. 778 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,153 So I became the first artist to have a hit on all three charts 779 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,780 at the same time. 780 00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:43,913 Crowe: Heart like a wheel was a huge turning point for her. 781 00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:49,794 The avalanche of success was hitting everywhere. 782 00:43:50,086 --> 00:43:52,505 She was at the forefront of a kind of pop stardom 783 00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:55,133 that hadn't happened at that point 784 00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:59,554 but people didn't notice the difficulty of being a woman, 785 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,516 trailblazing and having the success of a Mick Jagger. 786 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:16,737 I people try to rape me always thinking I'm crazy I 787 00:44:16,904 --> 00:44:19,991 I make me burn the candle right down I 788 00:44:21,576 --> 00:44:23,369 I baby I 789 00:44:23,828 --> 00:44:25,663 I I can't stay I 790 00:44:26,038 --> 00:44:29,250 I don't need no jewels in my crown I 791 00:44:30,042 --> 00:44:32,587 I 'cause all you women I 792 00:44:32,753 --> 00:44:34,964 I are low down gamblers I 793 00:44:35,131 --> 00:44:37,341 ronstadt: Now I had gigs like in big sporting arenas, 794 00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:39,552 you know, stadiums and stuff like that. 795 00:44:39,969 --> 00:44:42,138 I knew the name of every arena in the country. 796 00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:44,223 We got a gig tonight at the spectrum in Philly. 797 00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:45,390 We'll be at the forum. 798 00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:46,702 Gig tomorrow night at the garden. 799 00:44:46,726 --> 00:44:47,518 That's where we played. 800 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,061 She was selling them all out. 801 00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:50,730 I this low down bitchin' I 802 00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:53,357 I got my poor feet a itchin' I 803 00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:56,235 I can you see the deuce is still wild I 804 00:44:56,402 --> 00:44:57,653 geffen: She was very good. 805 00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:58,820 Audience loved her. 806 00:44:58,946 --> 00:44:59,989 Records sold. 807 00:45:00,156 --> 00:45:02,909 She was on an uphill swing all the time. 808 00:45:03,075 --> 00:45:04,952 I got to roll me I 809 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:09,498 I call me the tumblin' dice I 810 00:45:12,335 --> 00:45:13,878 browne: When we did that tour together 811 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:16,172 we'd take turns closing and opening. 812 00:45:18,216 --> 00:45:21,260 You know. Try following Linda ronstadt every night. 813 00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:25,056 I honey got no money I 814 00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:28,851 I sixes and sevens and nines I 815 00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:33,314 I hey now baby I'm the rank outsider I 816 00:45:33,481 --> 00:45:35,542 Raitt: I went to go see her at the universal amphitheater 817 00:45:35,566 --> 00:45:37,318 when she was wearing her boy scouts outfit 818 00:45:37,485 --> 00:45:38,945 and was just rocking. 819 00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:41,948 I baby... I 820 00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,575 bonoff: Linda was able to be really feminine and sexy 821 00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:49,330 in this world of men and somehow hold onto herself and do that 822 00:45:49,497 --> 00:45:52,291 and use that in the best possible way. 823 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:07,223 Wachtel: There was a lot of dudes running around the stages then. 824 00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:10,476 But we were on the road with Linda and killing it. 825 00:46:10,643 --> 00:46:11,763 She was killing every night. 826 00:46:11,894 --> 00:46:14,355 I the tumbling dice I 827 00:46:15,523 --> 00:46:17,275 I you got to roll me I 828 00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:19,503 I know they liked my singing and I know they were proud 829 00:46:19,527 --> 00:46:21,821 of what they were doing but still in rock and roll 830 00:46:21,988 --> 00:46:24,407 the idea that you're actually working for a chick singer, 831 00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:26,993 in their way they sort of saw it as not as cool 832 00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:28,762 as if they were their own rock and roll band 833 00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:30,329 and they were just all the guys. 834 00:46:32,123 --> 00:46:35,543 I baby, baby got to roll me I 835 00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:37,670 bonoff: There weren't a lot of women musicians 836 00:46:37,837 --> 00:46:40,256 so it was always a band of guys. 837 00:46:40,423 --> 00:46:43,551 There weren't women bass players and women guitar players 838 00:46:43,718 --> 00:46:47,305 and sometimes some of these guys were, they were tough. 839 00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,513 Ronstadt: I got a lot tougher and more foul mouthed. 840 00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:52,643 I used to swear a lot. 841 00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:54,246 I mean, I used to talk like a truck driver. 842 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,647 When I think about the way I used to talk, I'm shocked. 843 00:47:00,026 --> 00:47:02,486 Without having any other girls along on the road, 844 00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:05,489 just automatically you start to imitate them. 845 00:47:08,868 --> 00:47:12,079 Harris: Linda was never comfortable being on the road 846 00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:17,126 but obviously she did her job and part of her loved it. 847 00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:18,544 Who wouldn't love it? 848 00:47:18,711 --> 00:47:21,047 But I think there was another part of her that went, 849 00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:23,341 "you know, this doesn't feel right." 850 00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:26,653 Ronstadt: If I were going to choose something to do 851 00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,613 it would not be to stand up in front of a lot of people. 852 00:47:28,637 --> 00:47:30,181 But I love to sing, I love to sing. 853 00:47:30,348 --> 00:47:32,617 I love music so at some point you do whatever you have to do 854 00:47:32,641 --> 00:47:34,268 to do music. 855 00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:38,564 Asher: She would confess to me that if she saw people in the front row 856 00:47:38,731 --> 00:47:42,109 and somebody leans over and says something to the person 857 00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:45,571 next to them, she thought they were saying, you know, 858 00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:47,615 she's the worst singer I've ever heard. 859 00:47:47,782 --> 00:47:49,116 I don't like this. 860 00:47:49,450 --> 00:47:51,118 She really believed that. 861 00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:55,164 Wachtel: You get on the bus at night, card game going on, 862 00:47:55,331 --> 00:47:57,166 everybody blasting music 863 00:47:57,333 --> 00:47:59,460 or everyone else drinking, you know. 864 00:47:59,627 --> 00:48:01,379 A lot of drugs around. 865 00:48:02,046 --> 00:48:04,423 A lot of people would go on stage completely hammered, 866 00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:06,175 completely fucking hammered. 867 00:48:06,342 --> 00:48:09,970 Raitt: Everybody was up at night and when the gig ended 868 00:48:10,137 --> 00:48:12,014 you don't go home and have milk. 869 00:48:13,641 --> 00:48:17,019 It was kind of the nighttime danger fun part about 870 00:48:17,186 --> 00:48:18,729 not having to go to bed. 871 00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:20,731 You know, Keith Richards can do it, so can I. 872 00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:23,526 Linda's thing was diet pills. 873 00:48:25,152 --> 00:48:27,321 Asher: She went through a phase mostly taking speed 874 00:48:27,488 --> 00:48:30,032 and not eating and being super skinny. 875 00:48:30,825 --> 00:48:33,953 Ronstadt: It seemed like it was so hard to be out there day after day 876 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,080 and to try to get up the energy to sort of do that 877 00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:39,041 when you were just wrung out 878 00:48:39,208 --> 00:48:42,169 from the sense of being dislocated from place. 879 00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:46,799 I was with a bunch of people that were basically earnest 880 00:48:46,966 --> 00:48:48,175 and basically honest 881 00:48:48,342 --> 00:48:50,970 and the kind of paranoia that was introduced by drugs 882 00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:53,017 was so destructive in our ability to communicate 883 00:48:53,139 --> 00:48:53,889 with each other. 884 00:48:54,056 --> 00:48:55,975 That really saddened me. 885 00:48:56,142 --> 00:48:59,478 And then at some point we all just stopped. 886 00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:05,443 I I feel so bad I 887 00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:08,863 I I got a worried mind I 888 00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,949 I I'm so lonesome I 889 00:49:12,116 --> 00:49:13,909 I all the time I 890 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:19,373 I since I left my baby behind I 891 00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:22,001 I on blue bayou I 892 00:49:26,046 --> 00:49:30,259 I saving nickels saving dimes I 893 00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:35,306 I workin' 'til the sun don't shine I 894 00:49:36,515 --> 00:49:40,603 I looking forward to happier times I 895 00:49:40,769 --> 00:49:43,314 I on blue bayou I 896 00:49:45,483 --> 00:49:48,402 I I'm going back someday I 897 00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:50,821 I come what may I 898 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:54,575 I to blue bayou I 899 00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:58,704 I where the folks are fine I 900 00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:01,707 I and the world is mine I 901 00:50:01,874 --> 00:50:04,835 I on blue bayou I 902 00:50:05,794 --> 00:50:09,048 Crowe: When rolling stone was ready to put Linda ronstadt on the cover 903 00:50:09,215 --> 00:50:12,510 that was her absolute peak up until then. 904 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,180 I if I could only see I 905 00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:19,183 generally it was a very male-orientated 906 00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:21,769 denim-clad warrior cover. 907 00:50:23,521 --> 00:50:25,397 So here comes Linda ronstadt 908 00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:29,360 and she and Annie leibovitz put together this photo session 909 00:50:29,527 --> 00:50:31,612 that was like no other cover that had been 910 00:50:31,779 --> 00:50:33,656 on rolling stone before. 911 00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:37,618 She was honest 912 00:50:40,454 --> 00:50:42,623 and opened her heart. 913 00:50:43,457 --> 00:50:47,545 She said, "this gets lonely and I don't know where it ends up. 914 00:50:47,836 --> 00:50:49,547 It's an emotional journey 915 00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:51,590 and I'm happy that I brought this kind of joy. 916 00:50:51,757 --> 00:50:53,237 But you know what? When I'm here alone 917 00:50:53,342 --> 00:50:57,096 in this Malibu home that looks very cozy, it's lonely." 918 00:50:58,222 --> 00:51:00,902 Ronstadt: There's a lot of show business people down here, you know. 919 00:51:00,933 --> 00:51:02,685 It's not my style exactly. 920 00:51:02,851 --> 00:51:05,396 Interviewer: Where did you live before? 921 00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:08,440 Nowhere really. I was on the road for about ten years 922 00:51:08,607 --> 00:51:11,527 and I didn't exactly have a home. 923 00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:16,949 I on blue bayou I 924 00:51:31,797 --> 00:51:34,300 Announcer: Singing the national anthem here at dodger stadium, 925 00:51:34,466 --> 00:51:36,385 Ms. Linda ronstadt. 926 00:51:40,681 --> 00:51:43,100 I oh, say can you see? I 927 00:51:43,267 --> 00:51:46,604 Patricia casado: I remember my dad was watching her at the game. 928 00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:48,856 She sang the national anthem. 929 00:51:49,273 --> 00:51:53,277 I what so proudly we hailed I 930 00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,029 I at the twilight's... I 931 00:51:55,195 --> 00:51:56,655 all of sudden there she is. 932 00:51:56,822 --> 00:51:59,533 She'd come in the limo straight to the restaurant from the game 933 00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:01,243 to have something to eat. 934 00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:05,539 My parents had a small restaurant on Melrose Avenue 935 00:52:05,706 --> 00:52:08,792 across the street from what was then khj radio 936 00:52:08,959 --> 00:52:11,128 which was the radio station in the day. 937 00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:14,673 Linda walked in and my dad was wearing a shirt 938 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,509 that we call in Mexico a guayabera 939 00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:20,971 and it has four pockets and it's white and she said, 940 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,264 "this is a good place 941 00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:24,516 because he's wearing the shirt my dad wears." 942 00:52:25,351 --> 00:52:27,537 Hilburn: A lot of the people who hung out at the troubadour 943 00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:29,438 also ate at Lucy's. 944 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:33,400 Lucy was very shall we say loose with the check 945 00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:35,986 now and again and if we were on hard times. 946 00:52:37,071 --> 00:52:40,282 Casado: Our customers were not just soon-to-be celebrities 947 00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:43,702 of the industries, they were the old guard of Los Angeles. 948 00:52:43,869 --> 00:52:46,372 I mean, you're talking old-school money. 949 00:52:47,873 --> 00:52:49,601 There was a big communal table that my father 950 00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:50,876 used to sit everybody at. 951 00:52:51,043 --> 00:52:53,021 So you'd sit with policemen, you'd sit with firemen, 952 00:52:53,045 --> 00:52:55,464 sometimes you'd sit with an actor, sometimes you'd sit... 953 00:52:55,631 --> 00:52:58,217 A football player. You never had any idea who you'd sit with. 954 00:52:58,384 --> 00:53:01,345 What happened was Linda had decided 955 00:53:01,512 --> 00:53:03,347 that she wanted to change the 8-track 956 00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,824 because she wanted to hear something else. 957 00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:08,185 So she had to step up on this little wine rack 958 00:53:08,352 --> 00:53:11,355 and at that moment the governor Jerry brown comes in 959 00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:15,401 that room and he sees her and it was like wow! 960 00:53:15,567 --> 00:53:16,777 Who's she? 961 00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:20,989 So my father went and he sat them together. 962 00:53:22,366 --> 00:53:23,992 And, well, he fell in love with her. 963 00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:25,828 There was no question about that. 964 00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:28,431 Ronstadt: Jerry likes passionate music. 965 00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:30,416 He likes passionate music, passionate women, 966 00:53:30,582 --> 00:53:31,917 that's his deal. 967 00:53:32,501 --> 00:53:34,461 We had a really good time together. 968 00:53:36,964 --> 00:53:39,359 He went out to run for president for the last couple of months 969 00:53:39,383 --> 00:53:42,302 and pending for the fact that I got to see him on TV 970 00:53:42,469 --> 00:53:44,555 I may have forgot what he looked like. 971 00:53:47,141 --> 00:53:48,559 But he came back yesterday. 972 00:53:48,726 --> 00:53:50,046 He's gonna make it all better now. 973 00:53:53,439 --> 00:53:54,982 That's what he told me anyway. 974 00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:56,817 I have yet to see. 975 00:53:57,192 --> 00:54:00,571 I my boyfriend's back and you're gonna be trouble I 976 00:54:00,738 --> 00:54:03,991 I hey now, hey now my boyfriend's back I 977 00:54:04,158 --> 00:54:05,743 I when you see him coming... I 978 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:07,512 hose did you have much of a problem when you're with Jerry brown 979 00:54:07,536 --> 00:54:10,164 people expecting you to have political views 980 00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:12,708 along the lines of governor brown? 981 00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:15,294 Whereas you're a singer, he's a politician. 982 00:54:15,461 --> 00:54:17,061 Our relationship was completely personal, 983 00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:18,251 it wasn't political at all. 984 00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,507 So, you know, he did politics, I did music. 985 00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:22,968 - Right. - It's easy to separate that. 986 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,262 You went to South Africa recently. 987 00:54:25,429 --> 00:54:27,723 Did you receive criticism for going there? 988 00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:29,933 As far as I was concerned it was just a gig. 989 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,140 I don't think that if you disagree with the policies 990 00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:34,480 of the government, which I do very definitely disagree 991 00:54:34,646 --> 00:54:36,606 with the policies of the South African government, 992 00:54:36,732 --> 00:54:38,251 I don't think that's enough of a reason not to go 993 00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:39,651 and play music there. 994 00:54:39,818 --> 00:54:42,178 If I did that I wouldn't be able to play in the united state 995 00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:44,424 because I don't agree with their policies about nuclear power, 996 00:54:44,448 --> 00:54:45,783 nuclear warfare. 997 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:48,660 I mean, my god, we've got this person running the country 998 00:54:48,827 --> 00:54:50,370 that I completely disagree with. 999 00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:52,915 If I decided that I wasn't going to play where attitudes 1000 00:54:53,081 --> 00:54:56,627 of racism prevailed, I certainly couldn't play in Australia 1001 00:54:56,794 --> 00:55:00,506 or england or lots of places in the United States, 1002 00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:02,841 a lot of places in the American south or Boston 1003 00:55:03,008 --> 00:55:04,468 which is extremely racist. 1004 00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:07,429 I went to South Africa, it has a fascist repressive government. 1005 00:55:07,596 --> 00:55:09,240 I'm very interested in the culture down there. 1006 00:55:09,264 --> 00:55:10,464 You just got finished talking. 1007 00:55:10,516 --> 00:55:12,396 You say why does anyone think I'm controversial. 1008 00:55:12,476 --> 00:55:14,478 Do you realized what you've just talked about here? 1009 00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,885 We've just received all your political views in one blow. 1010 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:18,899 I'm teasing. I'm not putting it down. 1011 00:55:19,066 --> 00:55:21,266 I don't think my political views are very controversial. 1012 00:55:21,401 --> 00:55:23,278 Who likes nuclear warfare? 1013 00:55:23,445 --> 00:55:26,031 I remember her having the wall street journal in her bag 1014 00:55:26,198 --> 00:55:29,076 one time in the 705 when she was dating Jerry and I went, 1015 00:55:29,243 --> 00:55:32,246 you know, I had thought she was really smart but she's really 1016 00:55:32,412 --> 00:55:35,332 well read and very, very up on a lot of different things. 1017 00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:40,087 She's as wide ranging in her critical intellectual pursuits 1018 00:55:40,254 --> 00:55:43,507 as she is in her music pursuits and you don't find that kind 1019 00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:47,052 of depth and eclecticism in pop music. 1020 00:55:48,637 --> 00:55:53,350 Casado: Jerry needed somebody that could be full-time there for him. 1021 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:56,562 You couldn't have two careers in that family. 1022 00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:59,606 I I never will marry... I 1023 00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:01,024 there's not enough time. 1024 00:56:01,191 --> 00:56:04,111 I I'll be no man's wife I 1025 00:56:04,862 --> 00:56:07,865 I I intend to stay single I 1026 00:56:09,116 --> 00:56:12,119 I for the rest of my life I 1027 00:56:12,578 --> 00:56:15,205 bonoff: I mean, the same reason I never got married. 1028 00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:17,716 I don't know, I think it's hard being a woman 1029 00:56:17,791 --> 00:56:19,042 in the music business. 1030 00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:22,504 You know, it's a different kind of life. 1031 00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:25,132 I rushing waters I 1032 00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:29,428 I went over my head I 1033 00:56:29,636 --> 00:56:31,823 Raitt: Well you don't need to get married, you what I mean? 1034 00:56:31,847 --> 00:56:33,765 It's like we have our own income 1035 00:56:33,932 --> 00:56:36,977 and you don't have to have the state verify 1036 00:56:37,144 --> 00:56:38,520 that you love somebody 1037 00:56:38,687 --> 00:56:40,564 and when that relationship's over you leave. 1038 00:56:40,731 --> 00:56:42,531 Neither one of us are really made for marriage 1039 00:56:42,566 --> 00:56:45,277 or I think long-term relationships. 1040 00:56:45,944 --> 00:56:47,321 Interviewer: Why did you break up? 1041 00:56:47,487 --> 00:56:50,073 I can't remember. Maybe she could tell you. 1042 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,994 I it's so easy to fall in love I 1043 00:56:54,369 --> 00:56:58,123 I it's so easy to fall in love I 1044 00:56:58,916 --> 00:57:02,336 I people tell me love's for fools I 1045 00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:06,506 I but here I go breaking all the rules I 1046 00:57:06,673 --> 00:57:08,425 I seems so easy... I 1047 00:57:08,592 --> 00:57:12,095 ronstadt: My mom wanted to be a scientist but she had four kids 1048 00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:15,265 and I think it was also a little bit of a disappointment. 1049 00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:17,726 I it's so easy to fall in love... I 1050 00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:20,562 she always said to me go out and have a life. 1051 00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:23,357 You don't just have to get married, there are alternatives. 1052 00:57:23,523 --> 00:57:27,110 I it's so easy to fall in love I 1053 00:57:27,611 --> 00:57:31,156 I it's so easy to fall in love I 1054 00:57:32,824 --> 00:57:35,953 I have to confess, I got a really bad crush on this guy. 1055 00:57:37,204 --> 00:57:39,873 We had a little romance for a while but it wasn't long lived. 1056 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,833 He dumped me for this pig. 1057 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,336 Well, at least I got his picture. 1058 00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:48,715 I does he love me? I 1059 00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:50,968 I I want to know I 1060 00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:54,554 I how can I tell if he loves me so? I 1061 00:57:54,721 --> 00:57:56,515 I is it in his eyes? I 1062 00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:58,684 I oh no, you make believe I 1063 00:57:58,850 --> 00:58:00,811 I is it in his size I 1064 00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:02,896 I oh no you'll be deceived I 1065 00:58:03,063 --> 00:58:06,900 I if you want to know if he loves you so I 1066 00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:08,735 I it's in his kiss I 1067 00:58:08,902 --> 00:58:10,612 I that's where it is I 1068 00:58:11,029 --> 00:58:14,533 announcer: To present the nominees for favorite female 1069 00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:19,871 in rock and pop are Teddy pendergrass and Tanya Tucker. 1070 00:58:20,205 --> 00:58:22,457 The nominees are: Linda ronstadt. 1071 00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:27,421 Ms. Barbra Streisand. 1072 00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:31,258 And Donna summer. 1073 00:58:32,676 --> 00:58:33,676 You open the envelope. 1074 00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:34,928 I'm too nervous. 1075 00:58:35,095 --> 00:58:37,347 I'll do the gentlemanly thing here and I'll open it. 1076 00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,850 - If you will read. - Okay. And the winner is... 1077 00:58:40,017 --> 00:58:41,101 Linda ronstadt. 1078 00:58:45,564 --> 00:58:47,274 Linda was the queen. 1079 00:58:47,441 --> 00:58:49,609 She was like what Beyoncé is now. 1080 00:58:51,653 --> 00:58:54,406 She was the first female rock and roll star. 1081 00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,783 I want love? I 1082 00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:00,203 I get closer I 1083 00:59:01,121 --> 00:59:03,081 hilburn: She was the only female artist to have 1084 00:59:03,248 --> 00:59:08,336 five platinum albums in a row and most of them multi-platinum. 1085 00:59:09,004 --> 00:59:11,173 I hold my hand I 1086 00:59:12,424 --> 00:59:14,968 for favorite female in rock and pop... 1087 00:59:15,135 --> 00:59:16,261 Favorite country single... 1088 00:59:16,428 --> 00:59:18,388 Blue bayou by Linda ronstadt. 1089 00:59:18,555 --> 00:59:20,265 - And the winner is... - Takes another one. 1090 00:59:20,432 --> 00:59:23,435 - Linda ronstadt. - The winner is Linda ronstadt. 1091 00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:27,355 I you make a fuss when her eyes ain't on you I 1092 00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:30,776 I well give us something to look forward to I 1093 00:59:30,984 --> 00:59:34,321 I remember all those other girls who ran I 1094 00:59:34,863 --> 00:59:37,449 ronstadt: The nature of being a pop musician is that you get 1095 00:59:37,616 --> 00:59:39,242 these things that are successful 1096 00:59:39,409 --> 00:59:41,449 and you have to sing them for the rest of your life. 1097 00:59:41,495 --> 00:59:43,097 Over and over and over again and they start sounding 1098 00:59:43,121 --> 00:59:44,873 like your washing machine. 1099 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:50,462 I didn't like singing in big arenas because the sound 1100 00:59:50,629 --> 00:59:53,590 was like, you know, you'd hear the guitar solo that 1101 00:59:53,757 --> 00:59:56,384 they played last week still ringing around the rafters. 1102 00:59:58,845 --> 01:00:01,431 So I started looking for other things to do. 1103 01:00:06,019 --> 01:00:08,939 Cooder: There is this feeling that she has about the music itself 1104 01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:11,316 rather than the career itself. 1105 01:00:11,483 --> 01:00:14,945 You know, some people are just hardcore careerists. 1106 01:00:15,195 --> 01:00:16,988 There's nothing wrong with that. 1107 01:00:17,656 --> 01:00:21,034 You know, it's how your mind works that makes the difference. 1108 01:00:21,201 --> 01:00:24,830 It's how you see yourself or how you see yourself in the world, 1109 01:00:24,996 --> 01:00:26,164 you know. 1110 01:00:26,331 --> 01:00:29,417 And not everybody's a pure art for art's sake 1111 01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:31,378 and not everybody's a pure careerist either, 1112 01:00:31,545 --> 01:00:32,796 especially in music 1113 01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:36,133 because musicians love music or they wouldn't do it. 1114 01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:40,720 Hilburn: She wanted to change. 1115 01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:43,181 She got tired of doing arena rock, 1116 01:00:43,348 --> 01:00:45,183 she wanted to try different things. 1117 01:00:47,102 --> 01:00:49,413 Ronstadt: I picked up the phone and called my great friend John Rockwell 1118 01:00:49,437 --> 01:00:52,440 who writes music criticism for the New York times. 1119 01:00:53,483 --> 01:00:55,861 I said I hate playing these big sporting arenas. 1120 01:00:56,027 --> 01:00:58,613 It's not good for the audience, it's not good for the band. 1121 01:00:58,905 --> 01:01:02,159 I want to sing in a theater with a proscenium and a curtain. 1122 01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:04,499 He said well the next time you come to New York 1123 01:01:04,536 --> 01:01:07,414 I'll take you down to meet this fellow named Joseph papp. 1124 01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:10,017 He has a theater, it's called the New York public theater 1125 01:01:10,041 --> 01:01:13,128 and he does Shakespeare and he does musicals; He did hair. 1126 01:01:13,753 --> 01:01:16,131 He wanted to do the pirates of penzance. 1127 01:01:16,756 --> 01:01:19,050 My mom was a Gilbert and Sullivan lover. 1128 01:01:19,217 --> 01:01:22,512 She had a big book of Gilbert and Sullivan songs on the piano. 1129 01:01:23,054 --> 01:01:27,017 And I actually learned all the soprano parts as a kid. 1130 01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:29,477 And I loved singing them 1131 01:01:29,644 --> 01:01:32,022 but I never got a chance to in rock and roll. 1132 01:01:32,731 --> 01:01:35,942 Hilburn: That was in her roots, that was in her upbringing, 1133 01:01:36,109 --> 01:01:39,654 it was part of her authentic musical experience. 1134 01:01:41,031 --> 01:01:43,301 Ronstadt: Joe called me and said if I wanted to do the part 1135 01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:44,659 I could have it. 1136 01:01:44,826 --> 01:01:46,426 And I said no I have to come and audition 1137 01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:48,533 because I didn't know whether I could sing it or not. 1138 01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:52,083 She wanted to be certain that she would do it well. 1139 01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:54,395 They thought being able to say Linda ronstadt's in it 1140 01:01:54,419 --> 01:01:56,171 would be good for business. 1141 01:01:56,338 --> 01:01:59,299 But her concern was whether it would be good for the show. 1142 01:02:03,511 --> 01:02:06,071 Souther: I was there for several rehearsals and she was fabulous. 1143 01:02:06,139 --> 01:02:08,516 She just grabbed it by the horns and... 1144 01:02:14,022 --> 01:02:15,625 Ronstadt: That was the first job I was ever offered 1145 01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:17,169 where I actually got to sing like that. 1146 01:02:17,234 --> 01:02:19,670 I was delighted, I really was. But I can't do it very well yet. 1147 01:02:19,694 --> 01:02:21,464 Because it's really hard. You can't learn that overnight. 1148 01:02:21,488 --> 01:02:23,949 - You got to be in training. - In training, yup. 1149 01:02:27,702 --> 01:02:31,873 Geffen: Linda had a great voice and she had a great vision for herself 1150 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,502 and she didn't want to just be singing rock and roll, 1151 01:02:35,669 --> 01:02:37,128 she wanted to do everything. 1152 01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:40,799 I hold, monsters! I 1153 01:02:41,216 --> 01:02:43,551 I ere your pirate caravanserai I 1154 01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:47,555 I proceed, against our will to wed us all I 1155 01:02:48,139 --> 01:02:52,477 I just bear in mind that we are wards in chancery I 1156 01:02:52,644 --> 01:02:56,439 I and father is a major-general I 1157 01:02:56,606 --> 01:02:58,608 Kevin kline: I knew some of her songs, sure. 1158 01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:01,236 But operetta? 1159 01:03:01,528 --> 01:03:02,821 I prepare! I 1160 01:03:02,988 --> 01:03:08,618 I unhappy general Stanley I 1161 01:03:08,785 --> 01:03:10,785 a week into rehearsal we all sang through the score 1162 01:03:10,912 --> 01:03:13,123 just sitting in a circle in chairs 1163 01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:17,210 and when I heard her voice it was just 1164 01:03:17,377 --> 01:03:23,800 this belle canto soprano gorgeous musical, 1165 01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:28,680 celestial yet earthy, just pure, 1166 01:03:28,847 --> 01:03:31,099 something so pure, it just made me cry. 1167 01:03:31,266 --> 01:03:33,351 I just remember just listening to that voice, 1168 01:03:33,518 --> 01:03:36,062 it was just singing that stuff... 1169 01:03:38,898 --> 01:03:39,983 Touching. 1170 01:03:41,192 --> 01:03:42,336 I oh, sisters, deaf to pity's name I 1171 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,862 I for shame! I 1172 01:03:44,029 --> 01:03:46,072 I it's true that he has gone astray I 1173 01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:47,782 I but pray I 1174 01:03:47,949 --> 01:03:50,201 I is that a reason good and true I 1175 01:03:50,368 --> 01:03:51,494 I why you I 1176 01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:57,959 I should all be deaf to pity's name? I 1177 01:03:58,418 --> 01:04:00,545 browne: Gilbert and Sullivan? Really? 1178 01:04:00,712 --> 01:04:03,757 A rock star who has the guts to go out there 1179 01:04:03,923 --> 01:04:07,177 and do that kind of musical comedy. 1180 01:04:07,344 --> 01:04:08,345 She just didn't care. 1181 01:04:08,511 --> 01:04:11,556 To her it was like a mountain to climb. 1182 01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:29,824 Parton: Linda can bring herself to sing anything. 1183 01:04:29,991 --> 01:04:33,578 She could sing opera, she could do anything with her voice. 1184 01:04:33,745 --> 01:04:35,246 I couldn't do all that. 1185 01:04:48,176 --> 01:04:50,016 Ronstadt: Kevin kline and I were both nominated 1186 01:04:50,095 --> 01:04:51,679 for Tony awards for that show. 1187 01:04:52,138 --> 01:04:53,556 Kevin deserved it more than I did. 1188 01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:55,558 All I did was walk around and sing. 1189 01:05:02,482 --> 01:05:04,692 My mom died during pirates of penzance. 1190 01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:08,405 I wasn't with her when she died. 1191 01:05:08,613 --> 01:05:10,949 And I just couldn't quite get it through my head 1192 01:05:11,116 --> 01:05:12,385 that she was gone out of the world 1193 01:05:12,409 --> 01:05:14,244 and I was never going to see her again. 1194 01:05:16,955 --> 01:05:19,165 She'd had all these records... Louis Armstrong, 1195 01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:21,000 Ella Fitzgerald, 1196 01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:23,128 Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee. 1197 01:05:23,294 --> 01:05:25,880 And I thought I'd like to try to sing some of those songs. 1198 01:05:26,214 --> 01:05:31,177 Sinatra: I only the lonely I 1199 01:05:31,386 --> 01:05:34,556 when we lived together almost every evening the last record 1200 01:05:34,722 --> 01:05:36,516 we listened to was a frank Sinatra album 1201 01:05:36,683 --> 01:05:38,560 called songs for only the lonely. 1202 01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:40,937 With Nelson riddle arranging. 1203 01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:47,360 Joe Smith: Constantly people were telling Linda you can't do this. 1204 01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:48,945 I'm guilty. 1205 01:05:49,112 --> 01:05:51,781 When she was going to do the Nelson riddle album 1206 01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:54,159 I didn't think it was a good idea, 1207 01:05:54,325 --> 01:05:56,077 not because she couldn't do it 1208 01:05:56,244 --> 01:05:59,747 but because we had this run going with rock and roll records 1209 01:05:59,914 --> 01:06:01,249 and country rock. 1210 01:06:03,084 --> 01:06:04,687 Ronstadt: I said I'd like to find somebody that can write arrangements 1211 01:06:04,711 --> 01:06:05,920 like Nelson riddle. 1212 01:06:06,379 --> 01:06:09,090 They said why don't you just ask Nelson riddle? 1213 01:06:09,841 --> 01:06:12,177 Well I didn't know he was still alive. 1214 01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:14,637 You were the only person that I knew that could do 1215 01:06:14,804 --> 01:06:16,347 orchestrations like this. 1216 01:06:16,514 --> 01:06:17,724 I didn't know where you were, 1217 01:06:17,891 --> 01:06:19,731 whether you'd be interested in working with me. 1218 01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:21,561 Whether you'd ever heard of me or not. 1219 01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:23,372 And as soon as I started learning the songs 1220 01:06:23,396 --> 01:06:24,689 they just got inside me. 1221 01:06:24,856 --> 01:06:26,375 I wanted to record them and I wanted to do it 1222 01:06:26,399 --> 01:06:28,151 worse than anything I've ever wanted to do. 1223 01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:29,753 Riddle: I remember your phrase for this. 1224 01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:33,281 You said these are songs I cannot not do. 1225 01:06:33,448 --> 01:06:34,741 I can't not do them. 1226 01:06:34,908 --> 01:06:37,410 At some point it's like falling in love. 1227 01:06:37,577 --> 01:06:38,995 Choice doesn't even enter into it. 1228 01:06:39,162 --> 01:06:42,207 I what's new? I 1229 01:06:43,082 --> 01:06:46,461 I how is the world I 1230 01:06:47,712 --> 01:06:50,340 I treating you? I 1231 01:06:51,466 --> 01:06:53,635 I would think oh my god, how can I sing these songs? 1232 01:06:53,801 --> 01:06:56,161 Ella Fitzgerald has sung them, Billie Holiday has sing them, 1233 01:06:56,262 --> 01:06:58,056 frank Sinatra has sung them. 1234 01:07:00,016 --> 01:07:02,810 I handsome as ever I 1235 01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:05,939 souther: She studied all of those records 1236 01:07:06,105 --> 01:07:08,733 and she studied every available version she could find 1237 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,318 of each one of those songs. 1238 01:07:10,485 --> 01:07:12,320 She is a real student. 1239 01:07:12,487 --> 01:07:15,073 I what's new? I 1240 01:07:15,490 --> 01:07:19,369 I how did that romance I 1241 01:07:19,911 --> 01:07:21,913 I come through? I 1242 01:07:22,288 --> 01:07:25,124 Asher: She told she wanted to get those songs out of the elevator. 1243 01:07:25,291 --> 01:07:28,002 She meant that that's the only place you heard them. 1244 01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:31,297 And she wanted to point out that that's not where they belong. 1245 01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:33,424 They were some of the best songs ever written. 1246 01:07:33,591 --> 01:07:37,637 I why am I asking what's new? I 1247 01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:42,058 Smith: I went to her house and tried to talk her out of it but 1248 01:07:42,225 --> 01:07:45,270 as soon as she told me Nelson riddle was going to do it, 1249 01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:48,481 I said well I'd like to come to the record session. 1250 01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:00,135 Ronstadt: When my sister was in high school she got to go 1251 01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:02,388 to her senior prom and she got to wear these strapless dresses 1252 01:08:02,412 --> 01:08:03,705 with a lot of tool 1253 01:08:03,871 --> 01:08:05,999 and I always wanted one of those dresses. 1254 01:08:07,917 --> 01:08:09,752 By the time I got to high school 1255 01:08:09,919 --> 01:08:12,046 styles had changed and I never got to have one. 1256 01:08:12,213 --> 01:08:13,816 So I said I'm going to put a show together, 1257 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,800 we're all going to get to wear those dresses. 1258 01:08:16,384 --> 01:08:19,929 I so dream I 1259 01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:24,058 I dream I 1260 01:08:25,018 --> 01:08:27,604 I dream I 1261 01:08:33,610 --> 01:08:35,129 Johnny Carson: This is a real treat tonight. 1262 01:08:35,153 --> 01:08:36,904 We have three marvelous singers on the show 1263 01:08:37,071 --> 01:08:39,782 and would you know how many times they have been nominated 1264 01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:41,117 for grammys between them? 1265 01:08:41,284 --> 01:08:42,869 Forty-five times in total. 1266 01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:49,268 The albums they've all sold are in the multi-millions 1267 01:08:49,292 --> 01:08:51,419 and I guess it's taken the ladies about ten years 1268 01:08:51,586 --> 01:08:53,731 to get this together where they wanted to work together 1269 01:08:53,755 --> 01:08:57,675 and made an album called trio and it was well worth the time. 1270 01:08:57,842 --> 01:09:00,082 The album is described as old-timey but it's sensational. 1271 01:09:00,178 --> 01:09:01,989 Would you welcome Linda ronstadt, Dolly Parton, 1272 01:09:02,013 --> 01:09:03,014 emmylou Harris? 1273 01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:12,440 Ronstadt: I had met Dolly. 1274 01:09:12,607 --> 01:09:14,275 I saw her singing on the grand ole opry 1275 01:09:14,442 --> 01:09:15,860 and she was a wonder to behold. 1276 01:09:16,027 --> 01:09:18,547 What you have in front of you is one of the most beautiful girls 1277 01:09:18,655 --> 01:09:19,697 you've ever seen. 1278 01:09:19,864 --> 01:09:21,407 She's just gorgeous. 1279 01:09:22,408 --> 01:09:23,761 When she opened her mouth and started to sing 1280 01:09:23,785 --> 01:09:24,827 I fell on the floor. 1281 01:09:24,994 --> 01:09:26,704 She's an amazing singer. 1282 01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:28,539 I Jolene, Jolene I 1283 01:09:28,706 --> 01:09:31,584 I Jolene, Jolene I 1284 01:09:32,085 --> 01:09:36,798 I I'm begging of you please don't take my man I 1285 01:09:38,341 --> 01:09:39,842 ronstadt: I told emmylou about her 1286 01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,761 and then Emmy met her somehow. 1287 01:09:41,928 --> 01:09:43,513 I Jolene I 1288 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,308 Harris: When I made my first trip to Nashville the powers that be 1289 01:09:47,475 --> 01:09:50,228 set up a meeting with Dolly and she was making a record 1290 01:09:50,395 --> 01:09:53,523 in her studio and it was like unbelievable. 1291 01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:56,275 It was better than any Disneyland visit. 1292 01:09:56,442 --> 01:09:58,695 I eyes of emerald green I 1293 01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,697 parton: They kind of found my music somewhere 1294 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,116 and kind of wanted to meet me 1295 01:10:03,282 --> 01:10:05,326 and that's kind of how we all started. 1296 01:10:06,327 --> 01:10:08,472 Ronstadt: Emmy called me up and she's like Dolly Parton's at my house, 1297 01:10:08,496 --> 01:10:10,081 you have to come over. 1298 01:10:10,248 --> 01:10:11,833 I was living like 40 minutes away 1299 01:10:11,999 --> 01:10:13,501 and I got there in 20 minutes. 1300 01:10:13,668 --> 01:10:16,796 She came over and there we were, the three of us 1301 01:10:16,963 --> 01:10:19,132 and we were there with our idol Dolly. 1302 01:10:19,298 --> 01:10:21,618 They had this big old house, almost like a bunch of hippies 1303 01:10:21,676 --> 01:10:24,053 just living up there, different people and musicians. 1304 01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:25,596 They had different bedrooms. 1305 01:10:25,763 --> 01:10:27,557 It was just a free-for-all kind of house. 1306 01:10:27,724 --> 01:10:29,350 A dream for musicians. 1307 01:10:29,517 --> 01:10:32,895 And somebody said well sing something. 1308 01:10:33,104 --> 01:10:36,941 I Bury me beneath the Willow I 1309 01:10:37,108 --> 01:10:39,944 I under the weeping Willow tree I 1310 01:10:40,111 --> 01:10:44,490 I so he may know where I am sleeping I 1311 01:10:44,657 --> 01:10:47,702 I and perhaps he'll weep for me I 1312 01:10:47,869 --> 01:10:49,078 so I started singing that 1313 01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:50,848 and then they started saying sing that again. 1314 01:10:50,872 --> 01:10:52,248 I go "oh, Bury me..." 1315 01:10:52,415 --> 01:10:54,041 And here come all these harmonies 1316 01:10:54,208 --> 01:10:56,669 and oh it was just chhhng, chhhng, chhhng. 1317 01:10:56,836 --> 01:10:58,796 I beneath the Willow I 1318 01:10:58,963 --> 01:11:02,675 I under the weeping Willow tree I 1319 01:11:02,884 --> 01:11:08,097 I well he may know where I am sleeping I 1320 01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:11,934 I and perhaps he'll weep for me I 1321 01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:13,936 when we heard our voices 1322 01:11:14,103 --> 01:11:17,398 it was like injecting some kind of serum into your veins. 1323 01:11:17,565 --> 01:11:19,609 It was like a high like you've never felt. 1324 01:11:19,776 --> 01:11:21,569 We sang first in a living room 1325 01:11:21,736 --> 01:11:23,216 and said well this sounds really good. 1326 01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:24,559 It was special, it was different. 1327 01:11:24,614 --> 01:11:29,619 It was like a sound of sisters, musical sisters. 1328 01:11:29,786 --> 01:11:34,916 I won't you Bury me beneath the Willow I 1329 01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,795 I under the weeping Willow tree I 1330 01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:41,339 I where he may know where... I 1331 01:11:41,506 --> 01:11:44,675 at that moment we thought we have to do a record. 1332 01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:50,181 I to know know know him I 1333 01:11:50,348 --> 01:11:55,019 I is to love love love him I 1334 01:11:55,186 --> 01:11:59,148 I just to see him smile I 1335 01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:03,277 I makes my life worthwhile I 1336 01:12:04,529 --> 01:12:06,548 ronstadt: We learned so much about singing from each other 1337 01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:08,412 because you get to sort of be them for a second 1338 01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:10,013 when you're shadowing them in Harmony. 1339 01:12:10,117 --> 01:12:13,246 It's like getting on an eagle and getting to see the world 1340 01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:15,414 through that eagle's experience. 1341 01:12:15,581 --> 01:12:17,208 I get to sing through Dolly's voice 1342 01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:19,919 or sing through Emmy's voice when I sing real close Harmony. 1343 01:12:20,086 --> 01:12:21,587 I whyl 1344 01:12:22,755 --> 01:12:26,843 I can't he see me? I 1345 01:12:27,844 --> 01:12:31,472 I howl... I 1346 01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:34,350 the only big disagreements would be are we going to use autoharp 1347 01:12:34,517 --> 01:12:36,561 or dulcimer on this song. 1348 01:12:36,727 --> 01:12:38,271 Yeah. 1349 01:12:38,437 --> 01:12:40,082 Sometimes we would disagree about who would sing lead 1350 01:12:40,106 --> 01:12:41,649 because Emmy and I always wanted Dolly 1351 01:12:41,816 --> 01:12:43,109 to sing lead on everything. 1352 01:12:43,276 --> 01:12:45,152 Oh, well Dolly will sound great on that. 1353 01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:47,363 You sing lead! No, you sing lead! 1354 01:12:49,448 --> 01:12:51,492 Parton: Linda is such a perfectionist. 1355 01:12:51,659 --> 01:12:53,119 She's a pain in the ass sometimes 1356 01:12:53,286 --> 01:12:55,371 because she is such a perfectionist. 1357 01:12:55,538 --> 01:12:57,707 Because she will not have it unless it's perfect. 1358 01:12:57,874 --> 01:13:00,459 She used to make me sing those harmonies over and over 1359 01:13:00,626 --> 01:13:03,754 and I said I'm going to sing it the same way no matter what. 1360 01:13:03,921 --> 01:13:05,965 No, you're not! You're going to hit this one note. 1361 01:13:06,132 --> 01:13:08,759 And see I don't know how to, all those intricate harmonies 1362 01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:10,386 like emmylou and Linda do. 1363 01:13:10,553 --> 01:13:12,972 I just sing that raw stuff from feeling 1364 01:13:13,139 --> 01:13:16,267 and it ain't always proper but it sounds good. 1365 01:13:16,434 --> 01:13:20,021 I yes just to know I 1366 01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:24,108 I is to love love love him I 1367 01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:28,779 iandldol 1368 01:13:31,365 --> 01:13:33,910 Interviewer: Linda, you've sung just about all types of music. 1369 01:13:34,076 --> 01:13:37,288 Light opera; You've been on Broadway, rock and roll, pop. 1370 01:13:37,455 --> 01:13:39,415 What's your next project going to be? 1371 01:13:39,582 --> 01:13:41,709 I'm going to do an album of Mexican music, 1372 01:13:41,876 --> 01:13:43,020 of traditional Mexican music. 1373 01:13:43,044 --> 01:13:45,379 I'm kind of a traditional Mexican myself. 1374 01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:47,774 You know, I grew up about 40 minutes from the Mexican border, 1375 01:13:47,798 --> 01:13:50,676 my family are Mexican, and that is my roots. 1376 01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:53,554 That's what I came from and I have been dying to do 1377 01:13:53,721 --> 01:13:55,097 this record for years and years 1378 01:13:55,264 --> 01:13:56,742 and I'm getting around to it this year. 1379 01:13:56,766 --> 01:13:58,768 Boy, I'm going to do it. 1380 01:14:06,067 --> 01:14:08,861 Souther: Our neighbor that lived behind us in the garage apartment 1381 01:14:09,028 --> 01:14:11,572 was Harry Dean Stanton, great character actor 1382 01:14:11,739 --> 01:14:14,533 and a great singer of Mexican folk songs. 1383 01:14:15,076 --> 01:14:17,495 We would hear him up until the wee hours singing 1384 01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:20,498 these Mexican folk songs, these canciones. 1385 01:14:20,665 --> 01:14:24,168 And Linda knew all those songs. 1386 01:14:24,335 --> 01:14:27,171 I don't think people thought of her as... 1387 01:14:27,338 --> 01:14:29,590 As Mexican. 1388 01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:32,551 It certainly never came up. I never heard it. 1389 01:14:32,718 --> 01:14:35,596 I mean, the name ronstadt is not Hernandez. 1390 01:14:35,763 --> 01:14:37,431 Ronstadt is a German-sounding name. 1391 01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:41,477 No, she's certainly from Mexican heritage 1392 01:14:41,644 --> 01:14:43,854 but it wasn't the most apparent thing. 1393 01:14:44,021 --> 01:14:45,898 Ronstadt: I want to see where you put your d. 1394 01:14:46,065 --> 01:14:48,484 Say ganador. 1395 01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:53,656 The phrasing, ganador. 1396 01:14:53,823 --> 01:14:55,866 Ganadon 1397 01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:57,702 ganadon 1398 01:14:57,868 --> 01:14:59,745 - dor? - Mm-hm. Mm-hm. 1399 01:14:59,912 --> 01:15:02,707 Is it on the roof of your mouth, the back of your teeth or... 1400 01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:06,377 When he asked me if I would sing a Harmony on his record 1401 01:15:06,544 --> 01:15:08,212 I was completely delighted 1402 01:15:08,379 --> 01:15:11,549 because you can only learn by doing. I can't... 1403 01:15:12,091 --> 01:15:13,801 There isn't a book you can get, you know, 1404 01:15:13,968 --> 01:15:16,804 how do you learn how to be a singer in Spanish? 1405 01:15:16,971 --> 01:15:18,973 It's always been a dream of mine to make an album 1406 01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:21,851 of these Mexican songs that I learned from my father. 1407 01:15:29,358 --> 01:15:30,958 My father had a beautiful baritone voice. 1408 01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:33,446 He sounded like a cross between Pedro infante 1409 01:15:33,612 --> 01:15:35,322 and frank Sinatra. 1410 01:15:36,407 --> 01:15:38,993 Always if there was a dinner party or something he'd get the 1411 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,538 guitar out and he'd just sing and I always would fall asleep 1412 01:15:42,705 --> 01:15:45,833 in somebody's lap listening to my dad sing some beautiful song. 1413 01:15:48,252 --> 01:15:51,297 We always as a family, we always sang in Spanish. 1414 01:15:51,464 --> 01:15:54,383 Even though I didn't understand much of what I was singing, 1415 01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:56,028 it was something that I learned to do. 1416 01:15:56,052 --> 01:15:57,678 It's kind of like lip reading, you know. 1417 01:15:57,845 --> 01:16:01,057 I used to kind of chameleon in Harmony along with my father. 1418 01:16:06,729 --> 01:16:10,024 To learn to sing that style as a grown-up professional singer, 1419 01:16:10,191 --> 01:16:11,609 that took some doing. 1420 01:16:39,804 --> 01:16:42,181 I always forget the beginning where I go through the ending 1421 01:16:42,348 --> 01:16:43,682 and it makes it so hard. 1422 01:16:43,849 --> 01:16:45,476 Oh yeah. What was it, this way? 1423 01:16:45,643 --> 01:16:47,079 Is that how you do it? The Latin way. 1424 01:16:47,103 --> 01:16:48,395 Okay, I got it. 1425 01:16:50,022 --> 01:16:51,899 Okay, I'm learning all these new things. 1426 01:16:59,073 --> 01:17:02,034 My dad invited me to go to the Tucson mariachi conference 1427 01:17:02,201 --> 01:17:04,954 and that way I got to meet the mariachi vargas. 1428 01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:11,085 Those good bands like the cobre or the camperos 1429 01:17:11,252 --> 01:17:13,271 or the mariachi vargas, you're going to go to a symphony 1430 01:17:13,295 --> 01:17:15,023 and you're not going to find better musicians. 1431 01:17:15,047 --> 01:17:16,924 They're all virtuoso players. 1432 01:17:22,596 --> 01:17:24,473 I picked a couple of songs. 1433 01:17:25,391 --> 01:17:27,434 The band said these songs are very traditional 1434 01:17:27,601 --> 01:17:29,478 and they're very difficult to do. 1435 01:17:30,271 --> 01:17:32,022 I said well, they're the only songs I know 1436 01:17:32,189 --> 01:17:33,899 so we better learn them. 1437 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,000 I went to the president of my record company, 1438 01:17:43,075 --> 01:17:45,452 who's a man who genuinely likes music, and I said look, 1439 01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:47,347 I made all these records for you, they saw this. 1440 01:17:47,371 --> 01:17:48,789 I'm going to do this just for me 1441 01:17:48,956 --> 01:17:50,236 and this might be self-indulgent. 1442 01:17:50,291 --> 01:17:51,560 If it sells two copies I don't care 1443 01:17:51,584 --> 01:17:53,669 but if I can't record this music I'm going to die. 1444 01:17:54,837 --> 01:17:57,006 I don't understand any Spanish. 1445 01:17:57,173 --> 01:18:00,968 I didn't understand how popular those songs were 1446 01:18:01,135 --> 01:18:05,681 but this is a lady who wanted to do it her way 1447 01:18:05,848 --> 01:18:07,558 and who was going to say no? 1448 01:18:40,424 --> 01:18:43,177 Hilburn: Canciones de mi padre, it's the largest selling 1449 01:18:43,344 --> 01:18:46,096 Spanish language album in the history of the industry. 1450 01:18:46,263 --> 01:18:49,850 That's the whole Linda ronstadt story right there in a nutshell. 1451 01:18:50,017 --> 01:18:53,062 Linda deciding she wants to do something, 1452 01:18:53,229 --> 01:18:55,773 the record company telling her she can't. 1453 01:18:55,940 --> 01:18:57,858 She goes ahead and does it anyway 1454 01:18:58,025 --> 01:19:02,446 and they jump on board as the thing starts to take off. 1455 01:19:04,114 --> 01:19:06,408 Casado: Toda la familia would come and they loved it 1456 01:19:06,575 --> 01:19:08,994 because they were here from Mexico. 1457 01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:12,081 Even though their kids had grown up here 1458 01:19:12,248 --> 01:19:14,124 and become American citizens, 1459 01:19:14,291 --> 01:19:17,294 who is this girl singing songs so beautifully. 1460 01:19:26,512 --> 01:19:28,312 Cooder: The fact that she went on and did that 1461 01:19:28,347 --> 01:19:30,516 and did it in such a big way. 1462 01:19:30,766 --> 01:19:32,434 It was a brave thing to do. 1463 01:19:32,601 --> 01:19:34,144 Many people would have been terrified 1464 01:19:34,311 --> 01:19:35,980 I'll mess up my career. 1465 01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:41,485 But obviously she had purpose, personal decision. 1466 01:19:42,444 --> 01:19:43,612 It's good. 1467 01:20:20,899 --> 01:20:23,819 Ronstadt: To have that traditionalism going along on the bus with me 1468 01:20:23,986 --> 01:20:26,113 from town to town where I'd only sung pop music, 1469 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,949 to take that part of the dirt with me, you know, 1470 01:20:29,116 --> 01:20:31,952 the part of the soil of the land where I came from to Cleveland 1471 01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:34,288 and Cincinnati and New York, that was a thrill. 1472 01:20:34,455 --> 01:20:36,375 You should have seen central park with, you know, 1473 01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:39,084 close to a million people in it when the mariachi 1474 01:20:39,251 --> 01:20:41,628 got up on stage with their big hats, the place fell out. 1475 01:20:41,795 --> 01:20:44,048 They went nuts. There was such a thing of pride 1476 01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,091 that went from the stage to the audience. 1477 01:20:46,258 --> 01:20:47,593 It was just great. 1478 01:20:48,969 --> 01:20:52,306 This song was written by me and my father 1479 01:20:52,473 --> 01:20:54,808 and it's called lo siento mi vida. 1480 01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:02,900 My dad died when he was 84. 1481 01:21:04,485 --> 01:21:07,654 There was a kind of a peace that happened when he died. 1482 01:21:09,907 --> 01:21:12,218 In the three of four days before he died he was reading to us 1483 01:21:12,242 --> 01:21:15,371 passages from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book 1484 01:21:15,537 --> 01:21:18,999 love in the time of cholera and it was just a great sharing. 1485 01:21:21,794 --> 01:21:24,088 It was a different experience being with my father 1486 01:21:24,254 --> 01:21:26,465 when he died than it was with my mother. 1487 01:21:27,758 --> 01:21:30,677 I knew I was going to miss him but I accepted it better. 1488 01:21:42,398 --> 01:21:44,900 He had what I would describe as a beautiful death. 1489 01:21:49,363 --> 01:21:51,591 Aaron Neville: I'd seen her on TV and I thought she was great 1490 01:21:51,615 --> 01:21:54,910 but when she came to New Orleans she was just 1491 01:21:55,077 --> 01:21:58,956 so down to earth and girl next door thing. 1492 01:21:59,415 --> 01:22:01,375 And just humble. 1493 01:22:02,418 --> 01:22:04,753 She was just a sweet, humble person. 1494 01:22:05,963 --> 01:22:09,091 Ronstadt: I'd been in new Orleans for the world's fair 1495 01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,069 and somebody said well the Neville brothers are playing 1496 01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:12,933 at some club down in the quarter. We should go. 1497 01:22:13,095 --> 01:22:15,180 We going to get serious, serious right now. 1498 01:22:15,347 --> 01:22:18,267 I'm going to turn you on to our brother Aaron Neville. 1499 01:22:18,434 --> 01:22:19,702 Ronstadt: Aaron Neville was on stage singing 1500 01:22:19,726 --> 01:22:21,478 this beautiful song Arianne. 1501 01:22:21,645 --> 01:22:22,980 I Arianne is April morning I 1502 01:22:26,316 --> 01:22:30,362 I that comes rippling through my window I 1503 01:22:30,612 --> 01:22:34,366 I she's the smell of coffee brewing I 1504 01:22:34,741 --> 01:22:38,579 I on a quiet, rainy Sunday I 1505 01:22:38,829 --> 01:22:40,640 Neville: Somebody told me she was in the audience 1506 01:22:40,664 --> 01:22:42,583 so I called her up on stage. 1507 01:22:42,749 --> 01:22:44,501 Sing some doo wop. 1508 01:22:45,085 --> 01:22:46,688 Ronstadt: Usually I'll never do anything like that 1509 01:22:46,712 --> 01:22:48,797 because I like to rehearse everything first. 1510 01:22:48,964 --> 01:22:51,133 But I wasn't going to say no to Aaron Neville. 1511 01:22:51,383 --> 01:22:53,719 Neville: After that I asked for an autograph. 1512 01:22:53,886 --> 01:22:56,346 She said to Aaron, love, I'll sing with you anytime, 1513 01:22:56,513 --> 01:22:59,308 any place, anywhere in any key. 1514 01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:07,733 I look at this face I 1515 01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,294 ronstadt: The next morning I woke up 1516 01:23:09,318 --> 01:23:10,998 and my first thought was boy I like singing 1517 01:23:11,028 --> 01:23:12,630 with Aaron Neville. That sounded pretty good. 1518 01:23:12,654 --> 01:23:14,424 And then I thought, you idiot, everybody sounds good 1519 01:23:14,448 --> 01:23:16,366 when they sing with Aaron Neville. 1520 01:23:17,451 --> 01:23:20,204 I said we got to make a record together and he was up for it. 1521 01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,331 I I don't know much I 1522 01:23:23,707 --> 01:23:26,877 I but I know I love you I 1523 01:23:30,297 --> 01:23:35,427 I and that may be all I need to know I 1524 01:23:36,887 --> 01:23:39,681 Neville: There were all kind of rumors going on... 1525 01:23:40,766 --> 01:23:43,852 They say oh Linda and Aaron got married or whatever. 1526 01:23:44,478 --> 01:23:45,979 Just crazy stuff. 1527 01:23:46,146 --> 01:23:48,607 I look at these dreams I 1528 01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:53,237 I so beaten and so battered I 1529 01:23:53,403 --> 01:23:55,322 I I don't know much I 1530 01:23:55,531 --> 01:23:57,759 Neville: The producer told us if you don't make it look real 1531 01:23:57,783 --> 01:24:01,078 ain't no sense doing it. So we had to make it look real. 1532 01:24:03,622 --> 01:24:07,876 I that may be all there is I 1533 01:24:08,544 --> 01:24:11,713 I to know I 1534 01:24:14,341 --> 01:24:18,512 At the studio I said I'll see you at the grammys. 1535 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,019 I had a speech but 1536 01:24:27,729 --> 01:24:30,732 Too nervous. I just want to say thank you to Linda first. 1537 01:24:31,817 --> 01:24:33,485 And my wife joelle. 1538 01:24:36,321 --> 01:24:38,441 Ronstadt: Aaron and I won two grammys for that record. 1539 01:24:39,825 --> 01:24:42,160 But as time went on there was something really wrong 1540 01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:43,745 with my voice. 1541 01:24:45,998 --> 01:24:49,710 I just lost a lot of different colors in my voice. 1542 01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:52,267 There's a lot of things you do in singing. 1543 01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:55,841 You turn your voice to different planes to make different sounds 1544 01:24:56,008 --> 01:24:57,676 and I couldn't do any of that. 1545 01:25:00,929 --> 01:25:03,390 Turned out I had Parkinson's disease. 1546 01:25:05,726 --> 01:25:07,728 Singing is really complex 1547 01:25:07,894 --> 01:25:11,189 and I was made most aware of it by having it vanish. 1548 01:25:12,357 --> 01:25:15,902 I can still sing in my mind but I can't do it physically. 1549 01:25:18,155 --> 01:25:22,117 I sang my last concert on November 7th, 2009. 1550 01:25:22,618 --> 01:25:24,244 It was a Mexican show. 1551 01:25:25,912 --> 01:25:29,791 Souther: Must have been quite a reckoning 1552 01:25:29,958 --> 01:25:32,419 to have this marvelous instrument 1553 01:25:32,586 --> 01:25:34,426 that could always hold the notes, hit the notes 1554 01:25:34,463 --> 01:25:36,048 and shape the notes, 1555 01:25:36,214 --> 01:25:38,800 could no longer hold the notes without quaver. 1556 01:25:41,011 --> 01:25:43,180 But there's a lot of good records with 1557 01:25:43,347 --> 01:25:45,015 her magnificent voice on them 1558 01:25:45,182 --> 01:25:47,809 and I hear her laughing in my head all the time. 1559 01:25:47,976 --> 01:25:49,770 I hear that cackle all the time. 1560 01:25:50,562 --> 01:25:52,481 I'm sort of never without her. 1561 01:25:55,275 --> 01:25:59,446 Asher: I could imagine not being able to sing for Linda is awful. 1562 01:25:59,946 --> 01:26:05,535 But I also know nobody who could handle that kind of change 1563 01:26:05,702 --> 01:26:09,122 or adjustment in a more logical and thoughtful 1564 01:26:09,289 --> 01:26:11,583 and intelligent way than Linda. 1565 01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:15,587 Harris: I don't think she misses going on the road. 1566 01:26:15,921 --> 01:26:18,590 I don't think she misses making records. 1567 01:26:20,342 --> 01:26:23,303 I think she misses singing with her friends 1568 01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:26,390 and singing in the living room with her family. 1569 01:26:28,558 --> 01:26:30,352 There's just no one on the planet 1570 01:26:30,519 --> 01:26:34,648 that ever had or ever will have a voice like Linda's. 1571 01:26:46,660 --> 01:26:48,554 Ronstadt: You know, I'm grateful for the time I had. 1572 01:26:48,578 --> 01:26:52,165 I got to live a lot of my dreams and I feel lucky about it. 1573 01:26:55,168 --> 01:26:57,449 Another person with Parkinson's said that life after death 1574 01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:58,880 isn't the question. 1575 01:27:00,924 --> 01:27:02,759 It's life before death. 1576 01:27:05,429 --> 01:27:06,972 So how are you going to do it? 1577 01:27:08,181 --> 01:27:09,725 How are you going to live? 1578 01:28:06,281 --> 01:28:07,741 Couldn't find a part there. 1579 01:28:08,074 --> 01:28:09,367 Start right there. 1580 01:28:17,501 --> 01:28:19,741 I don't even have that note in my speaking range anymore. 1581 01:28:21,421 --> 01:28:24,591 Interviewer: Before you said you couldn't sing anymore. 1582 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,384 This isn't really singing. 1583 01:28:27,010 --> 01:28:29,763 Believe me, it's a few notes. 1584 01:28:29,930 --> 01:28:32,557 - But it's not really singing. - Are you enjoying it? 1585 01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,535 Well, I would enjoy it much more if I could sing 1586 01:28:34,559 --> 01:28:36,353 but I can't let them sing this without me. 1587 01:28:37,354 --> 01:28:38,980 It's a family thing. 1588 01:28:39,523 --> 01:28:41,858 Shall we? You guys ready? 1589 01:29:59,519 --> 01:30:01,396 - Do we get to eat? - Yes. 1590 01:30:01,563 --> 01:30:03,023 Good. 1591 01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:06,401 I I've been cheated I 1592 01:30:06,818 --> 01:30:10,071 I been mistreated I 1593 01:30:10,488 --> 01:30:15,869 I when will I be loved? I 1594 01:30:17,787 --> 01:30:20,832 I I've been put down I 1595 01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:24,336 I I've been pushed around I 1596 01:30:24,753 --> 01:30:29,674 I when will I be loved? I 1597 01:30:31,843 --> 01:30:34,971 I when I find a new man I 1598 01:30:35,388 --> 01:30:37,849 I that I want for mine I 1599 01:30:38,808 --> 01:30:41,895 I always breaks my heart in two I 1600 01:30:42,062 --> 01:30:46,775 I it happens every time I 1601 01:30:47,859 --> 01:30:50,987 I I've been made blue I 1602 01:30:51,321 --> 01:30:54,449 I I've been lied to I 1603 01:30:54,908 --> 01:31:00,038 I when will I be loved? I 1604 01:31:16,304 --> 01:31:19,307 I when I find a new man I 1605 01:31:19,724 --> 01:31:22,769 I that I want for mine I 1606 01:31:23,186 --> 01:31:26,314 I he always breaks my heart in two I 1607 01:31:26,481 --> 01:31:31,152 I it happens every time I 1608 01:31:32,278 --> 01:31:35,281 I I've been cheated I 1609 01:31:35,782 --> 01:31:38,827 I been mistreated I 1610 01:31:39,327 --> 01:31:44,207 I when will I be loved? I 1611 01:31:46,668 --> 01:31:51,256 I when will I be loved? I 1612 01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:53,508 I tell me I 1613 01:31:53,675 --> 01:31:57,012 I when will I I 1614 01:31:57,345 --> 01:31:59,097 ibel 1615 01:32:00,056 --> 01:32:04,936 I loved? I 1616 01:32:20,535 --> 01:32:23,163 I where have you gone? I 1617 01:32:23,329 --> 01:32:25,915 I my darling one I 1618 01:32:26,374 --> 01:32:28,877 I are you on your own? I 1619 01:32:29,502 --> 01:32:31,880 I are you having fun? I 1620 01:32:32,297 --> 01:32:35,216 I is there someone to hold I 1621 01:32:35,467 --> 01:32:38,178 I when you need it bad? I 1622 01:32:38,470 --> 01:32:41,306 I is it uncontrolled? I 1623 01:32:41,598 --> 01:32:46,644 I like the love we had? I 1624 01:32:47,771 --> 01:32:50,106 I does the day go by I 1625 01:32:50,732 --> 01:32:53,109 I like a memory? I 1626 01:32:53,777 --> 01:32:56,529 I do you ever try I 1627 01:32:56,696 --> 01:32:59,365 I to remember me? I 1628 01:32:59,866 --> 01:33:02,786 I in an automobile I 1629 01:33:02,952 --> 01:33:05,455 I or a crowded bar I 1630 01:33:05,914 --> 01:33:08,500 I well I hope you're all right I 1631 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:13,755 I wherever you are I 1632 01:33:14,672 --> 01:33:19,260 I if you're still within the sound of my voice I 1633 01:33:19,928 --> 01:33:23,473 I over some radio I 1634 01:33:23,765 --> 01:33:26,643 I I just want you to know I 1635 01:33:26,851 --> 01:33:31,231 I you were always my only choice I 1636 01:33:32,982 --> 01:33:35,568 I and wherever you go I 1637 01:33:35,902 --> 01:33:38,822 I that I still love you so I 1638 01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:43,827 I if you're still within the sound of my voice I 124154

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