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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,837 (Gentle electronic music) I was working in the two 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,437 jobs and someone came in and said, 3 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,640 oh, you could do stripping and modeling and stuff. 4 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,397 So I thought ‘oh, that would be really good’. 5 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,837 (Gentle electronic music) 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,037 I'm a model, a kink model. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,280 I do bdsm bondage, I do custom films, and I work for quite big studios. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,997 Everything kink related. 9 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:21,717 Whatever you like 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,317 for all your kink based needs come to me. 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,397 Yeah. I would say that the fetish stuff is 12 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,640 getting more popular, actually, if anything. 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,797 Yeah, I do really enjoy the shoots. 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,917 It used to be lovely when you’d have, like, your makeup done, your hair done. 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,357 Because when I used to do it, I was quite like, into it 16 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,000 that I had all sorts of different people messaging me. 17 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,040 I can do whips and canes and all that kind of thing as well. 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,877 Chains, gags, blindfolds. 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,397 You can have like gimp masks. 20 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:52,040 I tell you what is built my confidence, my self esteem. 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,837 It's made me love who I am, whether I've put on weight, whether I'm skinny or not. 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,478 But then it's also given me that drive to look after myself more. Yeah. 23 00:01:00,561 --> 00:01:02,961 Throughout the years my fans have grown and grown and grown, 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,317 some have followed me from the very beginning 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,397 and some have come in for the last few years 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 since the magazine edits and things like that. 27 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:11,859 We live in this weirdly pro sexuality age 28 00:01:11,942 --> 00:01:14,078 where you can identify as anything you please. 29 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:17,157 I can say that I'm gay or straight or a man or people or anything. 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,037 Everyone's fine. 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,677 But if you actually start touching anybody or taking pictures of yourself, 32 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,400 touching anybody, that's somehow horrifying and something to be hidden away 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,520 and I think that's a real shame because sex is really fun. 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,997 It's a great stress reliever, it's a great mood enhancer, 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,040 and I think we need an awful lot more of it in the world rather than less. 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,560 Yeah, I mean, some people do have quite a negative opinion about it. 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,317 They even think that you're a slut, that you, you know, you go around 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,917 sleeping with these photographers or you're easy. 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,038 You know, some people find it disrespectful 40 00:01:49,121 --> 00:01:51,160 to women that you could be naked or topless, 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,157 but I find it quite empowering if you can get paid to do it. 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,397 And sometimes if someone's quite mean about it, it's normally jealousy. 43 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,037 Which is crazy because it's flown by. 44 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,277 But it's amazing. 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,397 I enjoy it. I love it. 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,637 (Electronic music) 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,880 (Ambient music) 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,637 I was working in childcare. 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,880 I was working in a nursery 50 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:23,077 before I started modeling. 51 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,760 So I got into modeling because I got spotted by an agent 52 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,237 just locally in my hometown, asked me to some photoshoots. 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,400 So I went and did some photoshoots. 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,277 And then from there he started finding me work. 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,677 So I had him by my side for quite a while. 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,437 And then once I've got confidence and I was able to get my shoots 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,997 and things were just coming flying in, then I didn't use him anymore 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,477 and he was happy to then help someone else. 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,840 So it was it was really nice 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,597 since I was 17, 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,360 so about 13 years now. I’m 32 this year, which is scary. 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,357 But yeah, I was thinking about that the other day, 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,840 about how long I've been modeling and yeah, 13 years, 64 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,917 which is crazy because it's flown by, but it's amazing. 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,960 I enjoy it. I love it. 66 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,477 No, I have no regrets. 67 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,917 No, obviously I won't do porn and things like that, 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,677 but I have turned it down a lot and I turn it down on the weekly. 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,397 But no, it's not something I regret. 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,757 It’s built my confidence up. I had no confidence. 71 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,517 I had a lot of mental health and things before I was a model. 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,877 I had a bit of a rough background, so actually. 73 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,517 Yeah, it's actually built my confidence and self esteem 74 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,837 and it's made me learn to love my body how it is. 75 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,837 So I do go to the gym and I do keep fit, but at the same time 76 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,997 I still indulge in all the takeaways and the junk food and the alcohol. 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,637 So yeah, I've learned to live the best life and the normal life, 78 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,957 but also just to learn to love myself. And that's thanks to modeling. 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,400 And so I don't regret it one bit. 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,077 I wouldn't say there's been reservations about going into modeling, 81 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,477 but I have had the odd kind of clashes. 82 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,157 Like I said before, about things like 83 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,957 people making fake profiles and taking my photos 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,717 and reporting me for things I haven't done to try and bring me back down. 85 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,677 So a lot of trolling, but you kind of get used to the trolling over the years. 86 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,080 So now I just kind of laugh at it. 87 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:19,957 When I first started going to the gym, I had a personal trainer 88 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,117 and he would train me and I trained with him 89 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,837 for as long as I started getting comfortable with what I was doing. 90 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,877 And then I took it on myself and just did my own workouts. 91 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,160 And I follow a lot of 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,397 people on Instagram that do a lot of training 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,597 because there's a lot of stuff on there 94 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,037 that you can learn and follow so that comes in handy. 95 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,080 So yeah, I do do my own specific workouts, but for me. 96 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,520 So my shoots are varied really, so I can shoot from anything from lingerie 97 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:54,440 to nude to art nude to fetish, to all various of styles. 98 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,120 They can vary from 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,480 indoor studio shoots to 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 location shoots, whether it's rivers up on the moors. 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,560 They could be on train stations, bus stations in the middle of public, 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,997 absolutely everywhere and anywhere. 103 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,920 So they can vary from time to time. 104 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,077 I'm afraid of the needle and the gun, the noise of the gun. 105 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,637 So yeah, I if it was up to me, I'd have a sleeve. 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,957 But no, I haven't got any tattoos, so I'm not planning 107 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,880 really on having any at the moment. 108 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,557 So my, at the moment, my typical start to shoot is art nude. 109 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,997 So going to places and doing artistic poses, balancing on 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,037 rocks and rivers and things that are very beautiful and scenic 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,117 and just adding natural art nudes into it. 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,917 I'm doing a lot of fetish stuff at the moment, 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 so a lot of queries on like foot fetishes stuff, 114 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,800 bondage, whips, chains, ties, pvc 115 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,840 leathers and things like that. 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,517 Yeah, I would say that the fetish stuff 117 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,320 is getting more popular, actually, if anything. 118 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,797 Yeah, I would say so. 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,757 For me at, the moment it seems to be pvc 120 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,840 and being tied up, 121 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,357 I don't know whether that's because I look like the sweet, innocent girl next door. 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,437 So seeing the other side and with whips and things like that. 123 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,400 So yeah, it's quite dominant isn't it. 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,477 So it's quite nice for them to see. 125 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,160 That's what they want to see. 126 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Yeah. So I fetish work and I do art nude. 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,640 I won't do any open leg stuff, I don't do 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,560 porn, I won't do full frontal nude. 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,440 I kind of like the thought and idea of of leaving something to the imagination. 130 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,320 So I think if your boobs out and everything else is enough to see 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,200 so I like to kind of keep it stylish, keep it 132 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,000 kind of artistic and classy. 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,917 So it was probably a few years ago now, I did a photoshoot 134 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 with late photographer that sadly passed away, 135 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:04,277 so we did a studio shoot for a group, photographers 136 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,920 group of models, and we did a vampire shoot. 137 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,717 So I was the victim and we had seven female models 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,637 from the south-west and we all got together and we had hair 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,760 and makeup done costumes, and they suck the blood out of me, basically. 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,957 And it was great fun and it was nice to have different photographers around. 141 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,160 So we were doing all sorts of different things. 142 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,397 But yeah, it was, it was really fun and it was just different and yeah, 143 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,757 and it was nice to meet other models 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,397 because you don't really meet other models unless you're shooting together. We're 145 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,680 all in the same area or you've purposely reached out to them to talk to them. 146 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,720 So yeah, it's quite nice to actually interact and meet other models. 147 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,357 Yeah, it was like a Halloween theme. 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,877 And then he used it for his billboards around his studio 149 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,237 for advertising and things to get people that did different types of photography 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,517 and recording and films and things like that. 151 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,680 It was kind of a track for things like that, and it did and it was great. 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,760 So generally when I'm doing modeling, they, 153 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,597 the photographer, tell me exactly what he wants 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,720 for the images, or I will ask like, what are you using them for? 155 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,197 And generally is advertising. 156 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,957 A lot of it is for advertising. 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,760 The shoot is their shops, their products, their clothing. 158 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,557 It'll be posters, billboards, calendars, 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 their own private posters. 160 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,077 So so they sell private posters and things like that, private footage. 161 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,917 So if anyone requests sites, certain foot things or certain fetishes 162 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,677 kind of style stuff, then we can put that into the shoot 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,517 and then they buy that off us as advertising from the company as well. 164 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,160 So it's yeah, it all links in somewhere along the line. 165 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,477 Yeah. I've had photoshoots where I've been asked to do work with feet 166 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:55,637 so I'm not really a foot person but for the job and the photographer 167 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,240 and what they want, then I will do it. 168 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Yeah. Put in peanut butter, between my toes, beads, necklaces between my toes 169 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,960 squidging, my feet in, like. 170 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,437 Like, you know, I can't explain it under the sand or the sand under the sea. 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,757 Kind of like, the grime 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,797 but things like that. 173 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,040 So yeah, so weird feet things at the moment. 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,957 It must be Dartmoor because of all the views 175 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,997 and the scenery and all the animals. 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,397 So it's a beautiful place to be shooting. 177 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,637 And they've also got lots of hidden rivers and beautiful spots. 178 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,480 So you get some beautiful places to actually go and see. 179 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,877 We are in Tiverton right now. 180 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,037 It is very scenic. 181 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,877 It's a beautiful river. 182 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Yeah, it's somewhere that you could easily shoot either in the water or above it. 183 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,800 There's lots of flowers around, so it's lovely. 184 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,757 Yeah. Every photographer has what he's specifically looking for. 185 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:58,077 So whether normally it's a point of they will say, you really suit my look 186 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,720 and the style I'm looking generally because I'm a blank canvas being natural, 187 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,520 no fillers, no things like that, no tattoos. 188 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,637 So generally it's harder to actually find those types of girls these days. 189 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,037 So that's just what they're looking for. 190 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,197 So it be that sort of thing. 191 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,277 Having the girl next door look kind of helps and then having 192 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,960 that kind of sinister side to it is just a winner really. 193 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,440 So yeah, different photographers, different styles, different ideas. 194 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,837 And after shooting, after a while, you kind of bounce ideas off each other. 195 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Anyway, so it kind of works really nicely, 196 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,477 generally through either my 197 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,720 emails or through the modeling sites. 198 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,557 Either that or through word of mouth. 199 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,197 They will get my number because I have got a separate number for my modeling. 200 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,957 And so they will contact me for that and say who they've got my number from 201 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,597 and whether or not it's okay if that's okay. 202 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,400 And can we shoot? 203 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,997 Yeah, I do get photographers that will say, would you do art nude? 204 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,637 And I say, yes, but I won't do open leg or full frontal naked. 205 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,157 And they go, yeah, that's fine. 206 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,837 And then on the photo shoot, they're like, 207 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,237 oh, well, would you put this, would you do that? 208 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,037 And like, open your legs against the wall. 209 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,560 But I did do one risky shoot recently and a fire issue 210 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,160 and I was fully nude, I was open leg and I had the flames in between my legs 211 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,597 so you couldn't see anything. 212 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:17,280 So it was kind of like the it was the vision of 213 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,197 and the imagination of it, really. 214 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,717 But yeah, that was good fun. 215 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,757 But no, nothing. 216 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,200 I would just keep doing. 217 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,317 So I had this photographer who basically 218 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,280 I was booked for a up to lingerie shoot. 219 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,757 So up to lingerie only and throughout the shoot 220 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,117 he was giving little compliments, which is nice. 221 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,517 A lot of photographers compliment you and keep you out of shooting. 222 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,357 You have a lot of banter and it's great. 223 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,040 This photographer was a bit too... Like 224 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,000 if you bend over like little bit more, I can see this and it's like, 225 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,880 all right, mate, go on, you’re meant to be professional. 226 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,757 And then it's like, oh, can you take your bra 227 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,517 strap down? I'm like, okay. 228 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,957 You know, I'm still covered up. 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,917 So what's the difference to a little bra strap? And then it will be 230 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,757 can you undo the back and just hold the front? 231 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,797 I was like, yeah, okay, that's fine. So still covered. 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,557 So did that did back shots, front shots. 233 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,637 Absolutely fine. 234 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,397 And then it's like the sleazy comments 235 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,597 good or your body is absolutely amazing or you're gorgeous. 236 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:15,677 So I bet guys fall for you all the time. 237 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,520 And I was like, I'm a little bit different level here. 238 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,477 And then it was a case of, oh, could you just drop one bra cup? 239 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:26,360 And I'm like, no, no, sorry, it's not what we're doing. 240 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,320 And then it's a case of, oh, well, what about showing a little bit of thong? 241 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,523 Okay, I'll do that, I’ll show a bit of thong, 242 00:12:32,606 --> 00:12:34,600 you know, it’s still lingerie and all that. 243 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,917 So I did that. That was absolutely fine. 244 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,517 And then after a few, he was like, ‘would you pull the thong to the side?’ 245 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,797 and I was like, ‘no, like, come on!’ 246 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,840 so I was in a seductive, all fours pose, basically. 247 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,477 And he was circling me, which is fine. 248 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:50,557 I’m in lingerie. 249 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,237 And then he was basically saying to me, 250 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,917 could you move your back just in this way to the left? 251 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,837 But the way he was explaining it was not a normal way 252 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:01,237 you would have a pose. 253 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,557 So he was like, do you if I just move you a second? 254 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,560 And I thought, okay, thinking he's just going to touch a part of me or something. 255 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,877 But he didn't. He put his hand on his stomach 256 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,437 and on my back and like glide his hand across my back and across my stomach. 257 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,117 And I was like, that's just too much. 258 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,357 That's like, that's touching me and moving me and asking me to move certain ways. 259 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,037 I suppose there's a limit when you're stroking me 260 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,640 and just gently brushing me and know that it's just too much, just too far. 261 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,997 And then he asked if I'd move my thong to the side and I was like, ‘that's it. 262 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,437 I'm done with this photo shoot now. 263 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,517 You know, it's kind of like 264 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,957 we have been doing this an hour and a half, 2 hours or so. 265 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,437 So let's kind of wrap this up. 266 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,357 And then I think it was about, oh, two weeks later. 267 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,920 So I was talking to the photographer and he was asking me about 268 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,437 other girls that have said of other things, other models and asked me 269 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,517 what kind of things happened. 270 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,400 So I explained it and he said, look, I have got something to tell you. 271 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,997 Last week I was at his studio and I was working alongside him. 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,477 But he isn't using your photos for what he said. 273 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,040 So it was meant to be for a calendar and doing something else. 274 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,040 And he wasn't. He was actually using it for his own personal use. 275 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,437 And from then on I felt really grossed out because at the end of day, photographers 276 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,240 that professional, they get in their work for certain things to do certain things 277 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,477 not to play with themselves over. 278 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,197 I'm sure at some point that happens 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,477 maybe in editing and things like that, but so did know that blatantly. 280 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,117 He's got me in for a shoot 281 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,040 and then tried to push my levels and then just that kind of thing. 282 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,600 Yeah. No, it's overstepping the Mark. 283 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,400 Do you know what? I think models only actually talk once they crossed on shoots. 284 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,437 So if you've done shoots together 285 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,000 or group shoots and things like that, then yeah, a lot of you stay in touch. 286 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,480 But a lot of the time, no, generally models don't really talk. 287 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,477 I think it's very a very independent thing unless you're working together. 288 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Yeah. 289 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,677 Yes, I would consider art nude to be artistic. 290 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,517 It's more about the body form 291 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,317 and appreciating the art of the body and how beautiful the body is. 292 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,557 And everybody's different. 293 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,597 Everybody looks different and everybody really should just 294 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,197 love themselves and actually go in there and make it artistic. 295 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:13,997 Use your body. 296 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,560 And there's so many beautiful surroundings to add to that art as well. 297 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,637 So my friends and my family have all known what I've done 298 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,037 because I've done it for 13 years. 299 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 They've all kind of got to grips with what I do. 300 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,840 I don't think anyone really surprises them any more, but that's great. 301 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,317 Yeah, I think there is a stigma. 302 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,160 I do get some men that will just message me again. 303 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,557 They'll send me a picture of that, you know, and just like fancy a play. 304 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,997 I'm like, no. 305 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,277 And I just kind of remove them off the site. 306 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,277 I just get really rude, kind of suggestive stuff. 307 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,840 Or I had literally this morning I had someone saying, 308 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,917 even though I have a Mrs., I would be at your door every day. 309 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,197 And I was like, well, that's not right. 310 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,440 No wonder women are insecure. See you later. 311 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,837 And so yeah, there is that kind of attachment. 312 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:00,917 Oh, you get you get naked. 313 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,277 So you must just have sex with anyone or you must just do porn 314 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,877 or you must do everything. 315 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,560 It's like, no, there's, there's a limit for me anyway. 316 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,320 Yes, I throughout the years I've gained many fans, 317 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,237 some nice, some not so nice, 318 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,120 some a bit too sordid for me, shall I say? 319 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,277 But yeah, generally they've stemmed throughout the years so 320 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,400 and some have stayed all throughout the 14, 13 years and stayed in contact and 321 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,200 and just followed me on anything that I'm on and then some are new 322 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,197 like come through Instagram, 323 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,197 through other modeling sites and things like that. 324 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,197 And yeah, there are a lot. Too much is I feel mean 325 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,960 because I can't always reply to everybody, but I do try my best. 326 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,837 Yeah, I get a lot of compliments. 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,357 I get a lot of people in my inbox. It's very hard to keep up. 328 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,357 So some people think I'm very rude and not replying, 329 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,040 but actually I have a busy life, so it's hard to reply to everybody. 330 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,837 But yeah, I do get lovely compliments and then I get people like, 331 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,517 oh, would you try this next and would you do that next? 332 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,357 And I'm like, well, if it comes up then I'll mention it and see what we can do. 333 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,240 And I try to meet everybody's wants, needs and desires if I can, 334 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,600 but I kind of I've got to try and keep a personal private life. 335 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,997 So like I love modeling, I love what I do. 336 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,877 I love keeping everybody entertained and keeping everyone going. 337 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,877 But at the same time, I kind of need my privacy. 338 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,677 Am my life separate? 339 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,477 Yes. I've had various stalkers I've had to change 340 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,040 my number quite a few times and I've had hackers. 341 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:39,200 I've had people report my profiles and things like that, dating sites made of me. 342 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:43,837 I've had all sorts people messaging my friends, but luckily they know me. 343 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,080 So they're like, you know, this is going on. 344 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,117 Yeah, I do. 345 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,637 And I've had the odd photographer that's been very seedy, 346 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,317 very touchy feely, wanting to push levels. 347 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,997 And I just basically I'm just I won't take no shit. 348 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,760 I just say it how it is and no, sorry. 349 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,920 I think my friends and family are very supportive of what I do. 350 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,357 I think like them, they're they love what I do. 351 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,637 So there are some parts where they think ooh has a bit risky, 352 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,077 but they just say to me, just be careful because of it 353 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,437 can come back to bite you in the future and little things like that. 354 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,400 But generally they're very they're very supportive and 355 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,357 they know exactly 356 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,197 where I am shoot and who I'm with and they know what I'm doing. 357 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,517 They know the sort of styles, so then they know the sort of person I am. 358 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:31,677 So they kind of used to that. 359 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,240 It doesn't surprise them that I've gone into it, if that makes sense. 360 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,640 Yeah, modeling pays well. In the beginning, no. 361 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,240 So in the beginning you do a lot of TFP CDs so time for print CDs. 362 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,037 So it's collaboration work. 363 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:50,917 So you do a lot of free photo shoots. 364 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,717 The photographers 365 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,277 get to keep what you've done and then you get to keep copies of what 366 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:59,477 you've they've done, the final edits and you kind of build your portfolio up. 367 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,317 So over the time of your photo shoots, you're building your portfolio up 368 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,637 and then once it's at a substantial stage, you then can start 369 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,077 making your charges and your prices and kind of start in that way. 370 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,037 But yeah, it pays some bills, it pays my clothes, it pays for extra 371 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:19,600 things and props for shoots that I can think of that the photographer might not. 372 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,040 So yeah, I'd say it pays well once you're in it and yeah, enjoying it. 373 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:32,157 I would say be careful of photographers, check them out, check out their reviews, 374 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,880 check out their photos that they've done previously because 375 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,997 that makes a hell of a lot of difference when you see the differences 376 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,120 in their photos, 377 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,917 I would say 378 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,320 always tell someone where you're going for a photo shoot. 379 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,640 I would say definitely always tell someone where you're going. 380 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,960 Who the photographer is and contact information for that photographer. 381 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,837 Always tell a family or friend member the time you're getting there, 382 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,757 when you're leaving, when you've got home, so that there's a lot 383 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,757 of safety precautions 384 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,160 that because at the end of the day you are alone, you are a female or a male 385 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,397 and you are meeting somebody you've never met before in the middle 386 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,997 of nowhere or wherever you meet them, and there is a high risk. 387 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,800 There are a lot of risks in modeling. 388 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,797 So it is a very dangerous game, really, 389 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,717 especially when you're young girl meeting a man 390 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,957 in the middle of the woods on your own and getting naked. 391 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,477 So yeah, modeling is there is a danger side to doing modeling. 392 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Yeah. Yes. 393 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,560 So I had a particular I've had a few experiences over the years, 394 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,157 but the main one that's always stuck with me was, a job 395 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,477 that I got offered, I was only 18 so it was like new to me. 396 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,157 I was, I wasn't even telling people where I was going. 397 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,917 It was, oh, I've got a photo shoot and oh, it's in this place. 398 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,717 And I'm doing that. And that was it. 399 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,597 And then I'd speak to 400 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,480 when I got back and oh, we did this and tell them all the great stuff. 401 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,597 And then there was an incident where I was planning a shoot 402 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,717 with a photographer and we had planned it down 403 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,400 to the tee from outfits to where we would shoot in the hotel name. 404 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,720 Everything was down to the tee, so I had no questions about it at all. 405 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,677 And then it came to the week of the shoot and I was waiting for the flight details 406 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,157 and that was the only thing I was waiting for. 407 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,560 So I was just patient and just like waiting. 408 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,477 And then it came to the day of the shoot 409 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,640 and I was trying to ring them to try and say like, ‘come on’. 410 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,917 I’m meant to be shooting. 411 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,757 Like when is this flight? Is it even happening? 412 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,520 And I started to get a bit suspicious and then I had a phone call. 413 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,917 I had an email first asking to contact the company 414 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,600 that I had been registered to that the photographer had contacted me on. 415 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,517 So I had an email first, 416 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,800 but then they contacted me on my mobile because it's linked to the website 417 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,720 and the company itself asked me if I had left yet 418 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,677 and I was like a bit confused, but I was like, no, I haven't. 419 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,197 I'm waiting for some confirmation details. 420 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,037 And they said, well, please don't leave. 421 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,837 We're glad you haven't left. 422 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,240 The people on the other end have actually been arrested for trafficking. 423 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,157 I was in shock. 424 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,320 I did not know where to put myself. 425 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,797 18 years old. 426 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,677 I said to my mum, I'm going France for a weekend for a shoot. 427 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,077 It's amazing, doing beach shoots. 428 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,560 So doing all of this and then I just wouldn't have come back 429 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,197 and I don't know what would have happened and I don't know where I would have been 430 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,637 or what kind of kind of things I would have been doing. 431 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,637 And I don't want to think about it. 432 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,717 But yeah, definitely put things into perspective for me when I'm doing shoots. 433 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,600 So all details are always given to somebody in my close family or friends 434 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,880 so they know exactly where I am and what I'm doing. 435 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,717 Yes, I do get the odd little superfan and yeah, 436 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,277 they send me things and they’re always there to compliment. 437 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,640 Always on my photos, always in my inbox. 438 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,717 And it's just little things like little compliments. 439 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,357 Like, you look beautiful and I wish you were mine. 440 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,477 And if I wasn't with my wife, I'd be with you every day. 441 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,317 And then I get the sordid ones that. 442 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,797 Oh, if my girlfriends at work right now, can I come round? 443 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,000 And I'm like, no, you can't, mate. Sorry. 444 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,637 Yes, I get the dick pics, the body pics, all the shower pics, 445 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,677 all the wanking videos and they're like, I wish you were here right now. 446 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,717 I'm looking at your photos. 447 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,997 I'm just I just ignore him. 448 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,640 I'm just like, yeah, okay, just push that aside. 449 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,677 It's not is. 450 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,677 No, it's not what I'm there to do. 451 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,637 I'm not there to entertain them in that way. 452 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,837 I'm there to produce my work and if they like my work, then 453 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,997 that's for them. 454 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,800 It's not for me to be doing that sort of stuff. 455 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,400 So I'm currently having a website being made. 456 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:42,517 This is so that all of my stuff and all of my products and my images 457 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,557 and everything that I do over the years can all be on one platform 458 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,877 without being reported from trolls, without being deleted, 459 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,197 without any complaints and things like that. 460 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,600 So is going to be coming out soon, it’s nearly finished. 461 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,197 So people will be able to see you'll find me on there. 462 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,557 I will be putting links on my social media accounts 463 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,440 and on my modeling profiles and things like that. 464 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,997 And that will be up and running hopefully before the end of the year. 465 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960 So that's I'm looking I'm excited I'm looking forward to it 466 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,037 everything from out the scenes 467 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,077 different styles shoots I've done different creations. 468 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,917 They will get to see other photographers 469 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,600 other studios I've done behind the scenes edits. 470 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,357 I've done some questions and answers 471 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,997 because over the years there's been a lot of questions. 472 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,640 Other girls and other lads actually have asked me about modeling, 473 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,637 so there are a lot of things I've answered on there for them as well. 474 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,117 There is a chance for them to contact me if they want to, not just the bookings, 475 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 just the queries and questions I'm happy to answer. 476 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,797 And then yeah, there will be like a section where it's a bit more private, 477 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,960 so anything that's a bit x-rated will be in a 478 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,840 in a private area for people to subscribe and look at separately. 479 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,957 I really enjoy modeling. 480 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,677 I love it. 481 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,837 It's something that I didn't think I would. 482 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,957 But if I got spotted and I'll tell you what is built 483 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,957 my confidence, my self esteem, it's made me love 484 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,477 who I am, whether I've put on weight, whether I'm skinny or not. 485 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,760 But then it's also given me that drive to look after myself more. 486 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,397 It's made me think about how I how I look after myself with my exercise 487 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,677 and things like that. 488 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,837 So yeah, I do enjoy it. 489 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680 There have been several times over the years where I've I've stopped 490 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,277 gone, you know, I'm just going to stop now, but I end up back 491 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:34,437 like I think the longest I stopped modeling for was about eight months. 492 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000 And then literally photographers were in my inbox like, oh, let's shoot, 493 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,117 I'm not doing it. 494 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,837 And then after a while I was like, I'm back. 495 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,637 I can't, I can't not. 496 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000 And then, yeah, so, yeah, love it. 497 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,677 I love the fetish and the lingerie. 498 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,077 I am one of these women that loves lingerie. 499 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,077 So you get women that buy shoes and handbags and makeup. I buy lingerie. 500 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,600 My mum moans at me all the time because she says, where does all your money go? 501 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,640 I'm like, 502 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,200 I've got a shop's worth of lingerie. 503 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,720 So yeah I yeah, I do. 504 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,440 Dating is a challenging one I'll say, is the word, challenging. 505 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,000 So it's it's easy to date but when it comes 506 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,597 the long term it is hard because they have to really trust you 507 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,040 they have to not have their own insecurities of around trust. 508 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,680 And in this day and age, I think nearly everybody has a trust issue of some sort. 509 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,757 So it is a case of they have to really trust 510 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,637 that you're not leading these men on you are not sneakily meeting people 511 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,200 and doing anything that you wouldn't do normally if you were in a relationship, 512 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,677 which I don’t so is totally separate work to now. 513 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,477 But yeah, dating is hard because a lot of men just can't deal 514 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,077 with the fact that their friends or their family members 515 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,757 may see you naked somewhere and or in raunchy things somewhere. 516 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,877 So yeah, it is a challenge to date when you're 517 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,320 a model. 518 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,600 My friends and family love my career. They think, go for it. 519 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,157 You look how you do. 520 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,517 You do what you do. You love it. 521 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,237 Why stop? Go for it. 522 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,117 Enjoy it. My mum. 523 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,717 Sometimes because I'm in my 30s. 524 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,200 My mum's always like, aren't you going to have kids? 525 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,197 Aren't you going to settle down and get married? 526 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,837 And I'm like, yeah, one day maybe. 527 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,597 Yeah, but I'm just I'm enjoying my life. 528 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,677 I love my work, I love my modeling and I love what I do. 529 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,277 I love my friends, my family. 530 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:30,197 I'm very active. 531 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,360 I'm always out kayaking or doing something. 532 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,877 So yeah, sorry, mum, but maybe one day. 533 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,197 But right now, no, I'm. 534 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,760 I'm quite happy with how I am. 535 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,880 Sometimes people stereotypical me because I'm a blond and a model. 536 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:45,757 So there we go. 537 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,197 That one on the when someone messaged me. 538 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,797 So yeah there are times when I will get the odd 539 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720 message, like, do you do anything other than modeling? 540 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,320 And I'm like, in what sense? 541 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,477 And then it will be like do you do private videos? 542 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520 Or something sexual or it will be, do you have another job? 543 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,157 And then they when I tell them that I have a very rewarding 544 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,037 and very challenging and very good job, people are very shocked. 545 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,677 They go, oh, wow, okay, so you're not just a blond model. 546 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,918 Then I'm like, no, I have a career. Love my career. 547 00:28:20,001 --> 00:28:22,437 I'm very passionate about my career and my career is in helping people. 548 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,877 And they're like, oh, well, it's nice to see you've got a heart. 549 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,797 Oh, right. Come on. Not all 550 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840 models are very self-absorbed, but and it's all about them. 551 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,077 And I do more than just modeling. 552 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,760 So no, I do have my heart in my career and I have heart in modeling. 553 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,081 Yeah. Throughout the years my fans have grown and grown and grown. 554 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,437 Some have followed me from the very beginning 555 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,757 and some have come in for the last few years since the magazine edits 556 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,720 and things like that. 557 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,677 So yeah, I've got a variety of fans. 558 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,717 I got fans that send me little means and gifts and little things 559 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,957 and I've got friends that are very sexualized and send me 560 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,200 the dick pics and naughty videos and tell me what they're doing and 561 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,437 but I'm not really interested in any of that. 562 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,117 I kind of just ignore that side of it. 563 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,797 But you're going to get that in modeling. 564 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,077 It's not taboo is it? It's there. 565 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,317 So it's just something that you either enjoy and play with 566 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,400 or you just ignore, which to me I just ignore. 567 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,157 But yeah, I've got the general fans and then I've got fans that have literally 568 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,277 a waiting for anything that I'm doing next. 569 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,277 And they ask me all the questions about my shoots 570 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,357 and what sort of thing you wearing and are you doing any extra sales? 571 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Like, could I ask a request and then can I buy a photo? 572 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,997 So that sort of stuff happens. 573 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,317 Well, so I'm more than open to things like that. 574 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,997 And then if me and the photographer are happy, 575 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,357 and he's got the time, then we'll throw in extra stuff 576 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080 and then we'll sell it to them for whatever. 577 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,320 Social media has gone massive in the last ten years. 578 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Everything is through social media. 579 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,797 So back when I first started modeling, modeling was more 580 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,317 about joining agencies, getting an agent looking for the work. 581 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,277 And but you've got to be careful there because a lot of agencies 582 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,037 will be actually fraudulent and they'll look legit and then 583 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,800 they'll say, yes, you've got the potential to be a model, send us some shots, 584 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,677 and then they'll go, yes, we could use you, send us some money. 585 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,757 No, you don't ever send money. 586 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,117 Never send money. 587 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,637 If they want you, they're going to take you. 588 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,797 They're going to use you. So don't ever pay. 589 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,077 But yes, social media is massive out there. 590 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,917 It's easy for a young girl like they are making their own photos, 591 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240 doing their own edits, wanting to be a model. 592 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,637 And they're aspiring models, really, aren't they? 593 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,597 Because that's what they're really wanting to do. 594 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,197 And if that's the case, there's so many photographers out there 595 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,120 now that are on social media advertising their work. 596 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,720 It only takes 5 minutes to send a message and ask, look, I want to do modeling. 597 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,197 I know it will be free. 598 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,557 Or do you mind? Could we do a shoot, please? 599 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,877 I wouldn't mind trying and seeing 600 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,837 if I like it or message a model and say, look, do mind. 601 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,477 I'm like, I really like your work. 602 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,557 Can I come to you with a shoot? Can I watch? 603 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,000 I kind of want to get a feel of whether I'd like it or not. 604 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,717 It's always worth an ask. The worst that's going to happen. 605 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,197 Is they’re going to go. ‘No. Sorry.’ 606 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,957 and then you ask the next one. 607 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160 There's so many out there, so much social media out there. 608 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,440 It's a lot easier to be a model, but it's a lot more harder 609 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,397 because so many girls and boys that want to do it. 610 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:25,480 (Ambient music) 611 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Well, basically I was working behind a bar and nursing in a place in Chelmsford 612 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,837 and I was working the two jobs 613 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,877 and someone sort of came in and said, oh, you could do 614 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000 stripping and modeling and stuff so I thought that would be really good, 615 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,640 just as a one income as opposed to the two that I was doing. 616 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,560 So I started doing a bit of page three modeling back then 617 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,277 and I started to do some sort of like showgirl stuff as well. 618 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,237 So, well, first it's a bit daunting because I don't really know, 619 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,957 like you have to get an act together to do the 620 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,560 showgirl stuff. 621 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,557 Getting in front of the camera wasn't too bad. 622 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,637 I sort of quite enjoyed it flashing off the boobs 623 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,797 was fine. I was quite comfortable doing that. 624 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,837 But yeah, no, it's really good. 625 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,960 And it was good having the income coming in at the end of the week as well. 626 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,037 So yeah, I enjoyed it. 627 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,597 Sometimes it feels quite empowering. 628 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,037 I feel powerful because I'm in control of the crowd sort of thing 629 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,800 and on a shoot it does make you feel quite sexy. 630 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,320 So yeah, it's quite good. 631 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,797 At first was the financial side and then I enjoyed it 632 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,077 so much I just started to do sort of like a leg fetish. 633 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,280 I did like leather pants and stockings and tights. 634 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,997 So it just, it just all sort of progressed into other things, really. 635 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,597 So yeah, yeah. 636 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,037 For the feet fetish and the leg 637 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,357 fetish and tights and shoes, there's quite a lot out there actually. 638 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,227 And there's weird things just walking around 639 00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:51,480 fully clothed, a bit of tissue hanging out of your 640 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,280 top, there's quite like, you know, quite weird things that, that you can do. 641 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,077 Yeah. Some of it can be quite funny. 642 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,077 Like sometimes people want it to be sort of quite domme in front of the camera 643 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200 and you have to talk to them and that can be quite funny. 644 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,277 Probably the tight one really, because you have the tights on 645 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,477 and just like pull them up and it just didn't look good. 646 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,917 But obviously someone's got a fetish out there for that. 647 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,997 But yeah, that was quite funny. 648 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,317 Yeah, they're very supportive about it. 649 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,800 When I first started doing it, my dad was really supportive. 650 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,837 My sister was doing a bit anyway, 651 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,440 so it was kind of not really a shock to them, 652 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,877 but then it's obviously about 653 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,397 when you find boyfriends that they love it at first, 654 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,597 but then they sort of get a bit funny about it. 655 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,157 Once they're in love with you, that's a big problem then. 656 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,840 So yeah, a relationship side with men is hard. 657 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,797 So yeah, yeah. 658 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,517 So basically back in the day I was on a couple of websites 659 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,520 and you'd get messages from photographers on there doing like 660 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,077 group stuff, like you 661 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,117 do sort of a camera club and stuff like that. 662 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,277 And then yeah, you just have your pictures up on there, know your stats 663 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,397 and what you're happy to do and what you're not happy to do. 664 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,917 And they messaged you have assignments that they've got 665 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,157 and obviously if it's paid, sometimes it's time for print. 666 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,677 If it's like exciting stuff, I don't mind doing time for print. 667 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,597 A lot of it is mainly paid work. 668 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,317 So basically you'll give them your time and they have your pictures 669 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,477 and they'll give you some. 670 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880 Back in the day, they actually give you print outs of them 671 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,360 or a CD or obviously on a hard drive or something. 672 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,197 Yeah, I do really enjoy the shoots. 673 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160 So used to be lovely when you have like your makeup done, your hair done 674 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,877 because when I used to do it, I was quite like into it though. 675 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400 I had all sorts of different people messaging me. 676 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:30,997 I might go on to London, get all my hair and makeup done 677 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,237 and it was lovely getting pampered, and then to sit in front of the camera 678 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,757 and would do like exciting stuff 679 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160 like role plays and stuff like that was really good. 680 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,360 Yeah. So I used to do a bit of page three for the sport and the daily star. 681 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,717 I was in those, which goes along to building sites. 682 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,280 Actually, there'd be a couple of girls, two or three girls. 683 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,277 Sometimes I'll be on my own 684 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,957 and we'd just have a group shot with the builders with our boobs out. 685 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,437 And that was a real good laugh 686 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,077 because they'd be picking you up and stuff like that. 687 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,437 I've done a bit of TV work or did like a documentary 688 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,917 sex after marriage, where the ladies wouldn't feel very good about themselves. 689 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,997 That had come along to a photoshoot, watch it and have one done their self. 690 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,440 At the end of it. 691 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,560 I've done a bit of babestation TV, so I presented on there 692 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,200 and that was all really good. 693 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,157 Yeah, it's quite funny actually. 694 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,157 You'd get like a lot of people 695 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,637 just asking you to show your feet or grab your boobs or wiggle about. 696 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:23,237 Obviously it was only up to topless and I was actually married at the time 697 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,480 and my husband, his best mate to call in, to get me to do weird things. 698 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:28,920 So that was good. 699 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,360 Yeah. Yes, it's paid really well, but it'd be long hours I think. 700 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,320 Then we get there that 9 o’clock and not finish til half past three in the morning. 701 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,800 Then by the time you travel home from London you get to bed to like five. 702 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,000 So it was hard work but it was really good money to add to what we were doing. 703 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,318 Yeah. So the TV work, you could actually do 704 00:35:47,401 --> 00:35:49,320 two or three nights a week, which was good 705 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,997 because obviously fitting everything else in. 706 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,397 I gave up doing nursing and the bar work within 707 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,037 about sort of three or four months of doing the modeling. 708 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,797 Once I got quite a few photoshoots booked in, I gave up and just did that 709 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,280 full time and then become a stripper at the weekends as well. 710 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,997 So, so I do birthdays, stags. 711 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Sometimes you get booked by the wife to go along to do someone's birthday 712 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,917 or even for the stag do, you’ll turn up and there'll be a group of stags there. 713 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,317 And they don't know you are coming, so you're dressed as like a police officer 714 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400 and used to do schoolgirl, but don't really do that so much anymore. 715 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,877 Army outfits. 716 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,760 So turn up, basically do a little bit of a dance for the guy 717 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,720 and then put him in a dog collar, lead him around, give him a whip 718 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,677 cover him in cream, just basically for the stags. 719 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,000 It's all humiliation. 720 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,277 Rugby boys are good, but 721 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160 footballers, they’re always a little bit don't want to be humiliated. 722 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,517 And then, yeah, it's just like sexy dancing and having a laugh really 723 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,040 it’s all good fun. 724 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,757 So a good funny one is... 725 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,877 We went along to these guys. 726 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,241 Obviously they booked a stripper, but they expected more. 727 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,197 So our clothes and everything was in one room. 728 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,806 We ended up running off out the window, got 729 00:37:01,889 --> 00:37:03,678 into my friend's car, and a car wouldn't start. 730 00:37:03,761 --> 00:37:05,997 We're like sitting in the car trying to get away from them. 731 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,317 But the best are when you've got the nan sitting in the corner. 732 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,917 They come up and they absolutely love it. 733 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,720 And then old people absolutely love it. 734 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,757 So I basically get the guy up, do my sexy dance, 735 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,517 and then I'll stand him up, pull his pants down 736 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,317 so you can't see the front, because obviously 737 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560 sometimes you do have like the mum there or the wife or something. 738 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Let's pull the bum out, draw like a little funny face on their bum. 739 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Then I'll whip it and then I get shaving foam 740 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,637 and with the shaving, if I might draw a sad face 741 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,880 and then pull their pants up and squish it everywhere. 742 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:38,117 And then sometimes they like, lie on the floor and I'll get cream 743 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,717 and just squirted all over them. 744 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,357 And yeah, it's just it's more of it. 745 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,797 And sometimes you get glitter that's going to stick to them all night. 746 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,757 So you put that on them and yeah, it's just more, it's more of a funny thing 747 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,197 the strip-o-grams. I have done lap dancing, but it wasn't really for me. 748 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,360 You'd be hanging around for hours and this is like when I was really young 749 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,837 and you sort of hang around and have to sort of really hustle for your money, 750 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,877 whereas with the strip-o-grams you're booked in, you go along, do your job 751 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,720 and you know, you can get quite a few in in one night really. 752 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,957 Well, the page three ones were really, really good 753 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,357 because obviously they're not be in the paper. 754 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,517 So that was quite nice. 755 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,080 And we'd always have fun going on the building sites that would be really fun 756 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,597 and just shoots really where I've done like of theme, like the other week 757 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,560 I did like a sort of a xena warrior one with a sword that was really good 758 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,917 and a boxing one, which obviously I really love boxing inside boxing. 759 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520 So that was good. They, they stick in my memory, 760 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,877 but yeah, then 761 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960 once basically I was asked to do some naturist cleaning, 762 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,960 which is obviously going in someone's house doing some cleaning. 763 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,717 So I put a little Molly maid outfit on and, basically stripped down 764 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,477 during the cleaning for that. That was quite funny. 765 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,840 I some rubber gloves and I was just scrubbing away. 766 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,517 Not really. I think basically when I've gone along to photoshoots, 767 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,597 if they are a bit slimy or sometimes they can be move 768 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,157 your arm and they'll come along and move it. 769 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:57,197 And obviously if I've done topless, they'll actually try to move your boob. 770 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,557 But I just slap their hand and say ‘what do you think you’re doing?’ 771 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,677 I'm straight away to them. 772 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,677 What's what sort of thing. And with the stripping as well. 773 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,677 You get a lot of people touching you and one time we was doing 774 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,157 like a show and I was walking around collecting money for like a raffle. 775 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,357 It was doing some guys slap my bum, so I've just turn round, 776 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,760 slapped him and he fell off the chair. Got to put them in their place. 777 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,517 I like 778 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,320 I used to be a nurse nursing in A&E and stuff like that and in care homes. 779 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,437 So I really enjoyed that. 780 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,000 So I think had it been better money I’d have just stuck at that, but 781 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,157 when I got offered to do this, it would become fun and good money. 782 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,280 So it's a no brainer really. 783 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,277 Yeah so for 784 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,317 like basically I'll do a bit of webcam as well. 785 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,320 So when I log on I have certain people now I'm on on that time 786 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,037 or they messaged me off line with the stripping over the years 787 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,200 we'll go to someone every single year or you'll get a group of lads for a stag. 788 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,517 You'll go along to their stag party and then you'll see like three or four 789 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,717 other guys along the way. 790 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,397 So yeah, that's really good. 791 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,200 Yeah. So I have got a regular domme that basically 792 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,917 I do 793 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,997 little video for probably a couple of times a week really. 794 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,357 So that's quite good. 795 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,597 And then I've had people sort of send me gifts and buy me stuff or do a photoshoot 796 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,080 and they've given me gifts, which is quite nice. 797 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,277 No, it's just a private guy that just basically 798 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,840 I've got my hands behind his back and pretend I'm his sub. 799 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,200 Yeah. So 800 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,717 I need to get back on the cam 801 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,557 because he messaged me last night, but I was out and said, could I go home? 802 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,000 And like, basically call him sometimes he sits on there. 803 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,960 I basically charged him £70 for sort of 35 minutes and then it goes up. 804 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,677 I'll say, oh, time's up for ever going to have to go. 805 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,477 And he goes, oh, I'll go again and again and again. 806 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,720 So yeah, sometimes it's really good. 807 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,120 Well, five years time, obviously I'll probably steer off the modeling, 808 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200 but I would've made enough money to have got a nice house. 809 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,237 I've just sold a house. 810 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,197 I mean, at the moment and setting myself up now. Really. 811 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,877 So in five years time, hopefully. 812 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,837 I mean, quite a nice house for me and still look. 813 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,840 Okay. 814 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,037 Yeah. 815 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,400 So do you plan to still be modeling. 816 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,757 If the offers there 817 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,440 yeah, but obviously, yeah, I'll keep myself well groomed as long as I can. 818 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,960 Yeah. So obviously my diet, I'm obviously we’ve just come out of lockdown now so of 819 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,237 it's not as good as what it normally is because I'm doing sort of five classes 820 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,037 a week, I walk a lot and I'm quite strict on my healthy diet, 821 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,600 but I do like bit chocolate and wine, which obviously doesn't help sometimes. 822 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,357 Yeah. So I try to do like work out five times a week. 823 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,277 I also do quite a bit. 824 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,342 Of Thai boxing and boxing, which is very 825 00:41:36,425 --> 00:41:38,797 good fitness and it's really enjoyable other 826 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520 than standing on a treadmill, looking out the window thinking, 827 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,277 but no, it's really exciting. 828 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,357 I do quite a bit of sparring, I've done a few competitions with it, so yeah. 829 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,640 So that's, that's fun because it's something I like to do, to keep fit. 830 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,877 Yeah. I think to be a model, your mindset has got to be 831 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,280 you're going to turn up, some guys are going to be a bit seedy. 832 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,197 You've got to kind of be strong minded 833 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,557 and you've got to stick to the levels that you want to do 834 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,877 because some girls will go along to a shoot aiming to do topless 835 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,117 and then end up doing open leg or, you know, all sorts of stuff like that. 836 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,757 And obviously in stripping and stuff like that, you get offers, 837 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,477 but in your mind you've got to think, I'm not going to be happy about it. 838 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,760 At the end of the day, is it going to haunt me? 839 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,720 I mean, personally, I really don't mind anything topless. 840 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,357 Art nude’s fine. With the stripping 841 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,437 I'll go in and it's fun. 842 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,840 So I really enjoy it and I don't have any regrets about anything I've done. 843 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,237 But yeah, if you're looking, get into it. 844 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,517 You've just got to be really strong minded in, you know, and really confident 845 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,317 to say to people ‘no, not doing that’ and you know, just be set 846 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640 with what you're going to do and what you want out of it 847 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,037 really like. 848 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,477 Obviously I like to talk to a photographer before I go along 849 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,517 and even with the stripper grams I’ll call people up have a chat with them and say, 850 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,197 you know, look, this is how it goes. 851 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,477 Anybody misbehaves, we are going to leave. 852 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,677 And the same with a photographer really. I will speak to them. 853 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,477 So, you know, you know, basically double check that they've booked 854 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,637 what they say they're going to book. 855 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,197 But still, you can turn up and they I mean, generally everybody's lovely. 856 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,800 You don't really get a lot of seedy people. 857 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,760 But if you turn up and they're sort of like watching you get changed and, 858 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,157 you know, and then they're starting to be touchy 859 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,960 feely, that's when you know someone's going to be a bit of a handful 860 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,917 and you've got to be safe. 861 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,517 You've got to take someone with you or you've 862 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,677 got to let someone know where you are because. 863 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,757 You know, I've heard all sorts of horror stories of girls 864 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,437 that have gone along 865 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,717 and some of them 866 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,317 got drugged in their drinks, like I would never take a drink of somebody. 867 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,797 I don't really know if the photographer was like, oh, do you drink? 868 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,277 I'm like, ‘it’s okay, I've got one.’ 869 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,160 because I've known girls to get date raped and stuff like that. 870 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,917 So yeah, you have to be very safe. 871 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,480 And you know, sometimes you have to be a bit paranoid, really. 872 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,197 But yeah, so it's good to let someone know where you go. 873 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,677 Don't take any drinks and. 874 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,480 Yeah, 875 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,397 yeah, I do actually really enjoy it. 876 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,517 Um, it does make you feel sexy. 877 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,597 Can make you feel a bit conscious about yourself. 878 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,877 Like if you haven't trained hard enough or you're not feeling great, 879 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,997 you've pigged out a bit, sort of thing. 880 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,357 If you do sometimes 881 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,397 feel a little bit conscious, but other than that it's quite enjoyable. 882 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,280 If you've got outfits you feel good in 883 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,320 and it looks like good outfits on the Internet 884 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,160 you want to model in and stuff like that, it can feel really good. 885 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,960 Yeah. So basically model modeling can be for anybody. 886 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,277 There are voluptuous women out there that are a bit bigger, 887 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,480 that guys have got fetishes about, 888 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,757 you know, they get quite a bit of work. 889 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000 There are some like girls out there are quite slim. 890 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,157 There's like muscly women. 891 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:29,317 Every guy's got a type. 892 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,437 So there is work out there for most women if they're confident to do it 893 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,637 and feel sexy. 894 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:39,357 If you've got like a Barbie doll type or the bigger women, yeah, that's there's 895 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,357 work out there for people if you want to do it. 896 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,477 My favorite shoots are basically like themed ones. 897 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,517 I like to dress up and I like to do a role play in costumes, anything like that. 898 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,920 Really. They're my favorite ones. 899 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,637 Yeah. I mean, some people do have quite a negative opinion about it. 900 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:01,717 They even think that you're a slut, that you, you know, 901 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480 you go around sleeping with these photographers or you're easy. 902 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,878 You know, some people find it disrespectful 903 00:45:07,961 --> 00:45:10,000 to women that you could be naked or topless, 904 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,997 but I find it quite empowering if you can get paid to do it. 905 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,120 And sometimes if someone's quite mean about it, it's normally jealousy. 906 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,035 But yeah, some people have a negative 907 00:45:18,118 --> 00:45:19,880 opinion or some people are quite supportive, 908 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,357 they have a positive opinion and they're happy for you. 909 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,597 But yeah, it can be quite a negative world 910 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,800 for you to go out and say to do it and to tell people that you're doing it. 911 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,877 But you've just got to be confident in yourself to to know that you're doing 912 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,560 what you can. 913 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,037 Okay, yeah 914 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,117 so I actually work in genetic research, been doing that 915 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,717 for about a year and a half, and I've always been 916 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,880 into kind of like bdsm and that kind of thing since I was a teen. 917 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,037 And then now I feel, you know, I love that. 918 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,117 I love modeling. 919 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,480 So why not put them together? 920 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,720 Well, when I was a kid, you know, getting into stuff, 921 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,480 just the normal kind of vanilla stuff 922 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,877 was like, come on, literally, you know, you just, like, experiment. 923 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,837 You know, you try a little bit of spanking, a bit of that, and you're like, oh, 924 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,160 actually that's a little bit of a sparkle, I suppose, 925 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,720 to that. 926 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,917 And then it just kind of developed from there, 927 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,720 I guess 928 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,157 Perth in my opinion. 929 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:34,560 I think that's quiet vanilla and you kind of get 930 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,880 you get people who are like all I'm like super kinky, right? 931 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,717 And then you get out a like a rope or whip or flogger or something 932 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,000 and they're like ‘whoa!’, and you’re like 933 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,920 okay, so we're more adventurous rather than kinky. 934 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,317 And then you get some people who are a little bit like less modest 935 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,640 and then like, oh yeah, you know, I like, like a couple of things. 936 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,717 And then they go grab a flogger 937 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,480 and you're like, ooh, 938 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,720 so I have to really do it after half four 939 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,917 because I do get holiday and I can't get time off. 940 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,600 It's just I have to be very careful about working around it. 941 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,557 And I also 942 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,240 have to be careful about what goes online 943 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,517 because it's a, you know, respected establishment. 944 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,600 You know, I can't have pictures of my boobs 945 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,957 flying. 946 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,360 So I'm very strict with the photographers and on what site I post things on. 947 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,200 But apart from that, you know, if I have to book a day off, 948 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,357 I do one and three weekends like I'm working on that. 949 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,757 So flexible. 950 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,560 Um, I just, yeah, just have to be super careful. 951 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,557 So yeah, yeah, it's more of a hobby. 952 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,840 So I was signed when I was a teen. 953 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,000 Um, I got scouted by an agency in London, but 954 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,480 it was interfering with my studies with a levels 955 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:12,077 and I just had to stop because, you know that expect you 956 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,477 to go from casting to casting to casting, and you might get one, you might get two. 957 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,040 Who knows? You know, you might not get any of them. 958 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120 And you spend the entire day just traveling around London. 959 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,677 So that was tricky. 960 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,960 But, you know, I'm a part of a small agency in Colchester now 961 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,237 that's going well, 962 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,000 and I think that's the kind of the biggest that I would go. 963 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,517 I much prefer freelance because you just get the freedom 964 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,120 and I can work around my work. 965 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,320 I had thought about it before, but 966 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,917 it wasn't until I got stopped is when I actually thought, 967 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,600 oh, actually, you know, maybe it's good work, you know? 968 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840 And I went to my first photoshoot. 969 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:00,517 I'm not going to lie. 970 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,157 I was so nervous, but it was really rewarding. 971 00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:09,360 You know, you were not really sure what to expect. 972 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:15,000 And then afterwards, oh, this is cool. 973 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,837 So it's just a portfolio building basically. 974 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,357 So I had to go into the studio and this photographer basically 975 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,517 just told me what to do 976 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,677 and I went with it. 977 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,360 We had different outfits, we done different poses, 978 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,797 and then afterwards he gave me a CD 979 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,717 with all the pictures and yeah, it went well. 980 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,800 Like, I've still got the pictures now. 981 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,877 They came out really well and I'm really pleased with them, you know. 982 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,757 And then 983 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,240 after that I had to go to like a boot camp, basically. 984 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,197 And it tells you all 985 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,397 the different techniques like break the joints never stand straight on. 986 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,680 And then he says the number one thing about modeling is it's still acting. 987 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,000 So if you want to pretend something's funny, literally think of something funny. 988 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,237 If you want to be sexy, think about time you had a 989 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,720 really good time. 990 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:05,960 You know? 991 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,600 And it will come up on your face. 992 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,957 Um, and literally, it blew my mind. 993 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,237 And ever since then, all the kind of the poses come on naturally. 994 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,317 And it just kind of flowed so much better. 995 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,357 Like now when I'm doing shoots, it's rare that a photographer 996 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,240 has to tell me what to do. 997 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,720 I definitely have a constant train of thought going in my head. 998 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,520 Like, not so much. 999 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,277 What pose am I going to do next? 1000 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,760 Like click, click, click, but more. 1001 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,197 What am I thinking? 1002 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,317 How am I feeling? 1003 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,877 You know, and then just being aware, like, what is a camera seeing? 1004 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,320 Like if you have your foot, like all the way over there, 1005 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,320 you're going to look like you've got a troll’s foot. 1006 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,160 Just. 1007 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,600 Mindful of things like that. 1008 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,317 Or like, don't put your head down 1009 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,800 because then it gives you a big nose, that kind of thing. So 1010 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,037 You.. I don't know how to explain it. 1011 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,560 You just have to almost pretend like it's just not even there 1012 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,397 and kind of put it out 1013 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,877 of your mind. Like, imagine 1014 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,757 a driving test, but it's your best friend 1015 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,997 instead, you know, you're just driving along with your best friend. 1016 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,077 I know, it doesn't matter. 1017 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040 It's just his best friend, you know, why worry? 1018 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,640 You know, if you if you mess up, then it's a funny joke. 1019 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,560 You know why it doesn't matter. 1020 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,920 Like, I think the thing that I have in my head 1021 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,800 there are millions of people in this world 1022 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,040 Jerry from New Zealand, isn't going to care 1023 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,560 what I do, so just do it. 1024 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,680 That that's my thinking anyway. 1025 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,280 So I do mainly like bdsm and that kind of thing. 1026 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,197 So it can be like whips 1027 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,840 and the marks and the like have photos marks 1028 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:21,480 I can do like whips and canes and all that kind of thing as well. 1029 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,480 Chains, gags, blindfolds. 1030 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,440 You can have like gimp masks so you can have like total 1031 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,437 sensory deprivation. 1032 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,957 So literally you cannot see or hear 1033 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,920 anything and you're just sitting there like. 1034 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,357 So yeah, I model as a sub 1035 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,560 but in real life I'm a domme, but yeah, I mean, it's good. 1036 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,717 And like with ropes and stuff you get shabari and that's like 1037 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,277 when you get like totally restrained kind of thing, like suspended and stuff. 1038 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,397 And that's cool. 1039 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,040 That's really cool. 1040 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,517 Bdsm is very, very popular, literally 1041 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,757 oh, my god. 1042 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,197 Like, you just talk to someone who seems completely 1043 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,797 normal and like, for me, like I have a very innocent look. 1044 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,280 I am a dark horse. I'm the definition. 1045 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,840 Then you talk to someone, you're like, oh, my god, like, you like it as well. 1046 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:19,717 Like, what is this? 1047 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,040 Like, what is this black magic? 1048 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,917 But yeah, I mean, I would say maybe one in four, 1049 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,640 maybe one in five are into at least something kinky. 1050 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,637 I say it's actually more 1051 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:38,200 rare that's correcting for someone to be completely vanilla 1052 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,320 rather than someone kind of kinky, you know. 1053 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,120 I quite like wax shooting. 1054 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,000 So you get a wax, you melt it all over and you can do all sorts. 1055 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,560 And I'm a bit of a masochist, so that kind of 1056 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,880 burning sensation is quite bad. 1057 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,837 I mean there's been a couple of times that, 1058 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,080 oh, hot 1059 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,240 no, actually, I mean, never use beeswax. 1060 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,120 Beeswax will burn the absolute crap out of you. 1061 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,280 Um, yeah, that, that's my, my advice. 1062 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,000 So this was done in my flat on my sofa. 1063 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,440 That was cool. That was. 1064 00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:23,797 I really enjoyed that one. 1065 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,957 That's the same shoot. 1066 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,960 So I tied my own hands and that's my dog lead. 1067 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,117 And then we just literally just got and then blew over. 1068 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,840 I'm kind of glad that I effect, and that was cool. 1069 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,517 So there was a photographer called Stephen 1070 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,840 and basically we got, um, I was holding like a cane, I had a corset on 1071 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,717 I had to be like domme. I had this really black make up on I had a 1072 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,717 it’s mine, it's a dog collar with a little link and then link chain to it. 1073 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,877 And like he was pulling it and that kind of thing. 1074 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,997 And then we found like wax and stuff. 1075 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,160 That was really cool. 1076 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920 I really, I think because we clicked as well, like 1077 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,157 you meet so many different people during the shoots as well. 1078 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,557 Like, that's another aspect I like. 1079 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,840 And you know, so many people, 1080 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,240 so many different people, like so many different things. 1081 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,960 And that, yeah, the shoot was good and we got on really well. 1082 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,797 So yeah, one of them. 1083 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,920 So I was like leaning down with a corset on, I had my dog collar with a chain on 1084 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,080 and I like really, you know, grabbing my hair and 1085 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,120 you look back, and you’re like, ‘oh damn!’ 1086 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,480 so yeah, I was really pleased that one 1087 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,878 that was outside that one as well. 1088 00:55:42,961 --> 00:55:45,480 It was raining, so wet. 1089 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,357 Was it cold then? 1090 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,480 It wasn't windy, but it was definitely 1091 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,120 it was getting to me by the end of it. 1092 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,360 That one, a little cheeky boob. 1093 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,960 A bit of bum. That’s just a normal one. 1094 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,880 Yeah. 1095 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,117 That one’s nice. 1096 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,837 Just chilled. Yeah. 1097 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,357 And then I got like rope ones as well. 1098 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,397 That Japanese one you said 1099 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,280 yeah, shabari. 1100 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,080 Is that shabari? 1101 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,960 Yeah. 1102 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,117 And then the proper shabari is when you like, completely suspended off the floor. 1103 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,077 But you’ve got to be careful 1104 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,480 not to get any of your organs, because that can go wrong. 1105 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,560 So anything kind of not showing 1106 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,400 I suppose bit pg is on purple port 1107 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,600 anything you know anything that I'm 1108 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:35,517 sensitive about. 1109 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,677 I suppose we go on adult folio, I have to be super, super careful 1110 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,520 because my work, I cannot have anything like at all. 1111 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,957 So I've got a different name 1112 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,840 on purple port and a different name on adult folio as well. 1113 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,400 And my adult folio is they have to be verified 1114 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,360 and it's all watermarked as well. 1115 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,677 So yeah, I mean, 1116 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,960 especially with bdsm, like you're just just two people enjoying 1117 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,597 another part of their life, you know, it is just the same 1118 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,677 as anything else, you know, like horse riding, for example. 1119 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,317 You know, like it's no different, 1120 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,280 you know, it is a shame. 1121 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,480 It is a shame. 1122 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,597 But I think 1123 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,440 it's a stigma that's going to take a while to change. 1124 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,957 I don't know what like even now and people are, oh, what do you do for job? 1125 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400 My oh, I work in genetic research, but 1126 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,037 I’m like... 1127 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,197 Yeah. 1128 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,237 Um, I mean, 1129 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,237 people think that modeling is 1130 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,200 you just sit in front of the camera and go la-de-da-de-da 1131 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,277 when actually it's not that, you know, there's technical things behind it. 1132 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,677 You've got to think about 1133 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,760 your facial expression, your poses and how it comes across to the camera. 1134 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,600 I mean, 1135 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520 maybe you, you do get 1136 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,320 some people who think that, oh, yeah, I'm going to be a model 1137 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,720 and then just sit there with like a straight face the whole time. 1138 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,000 You know, just let. 1139 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,000 Go. And then then they realize actually 1140 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,320 there's a lot more to modeling and it's tiring as well. 1141 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,560 Like constantly having your head, you know, like 1142 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,277 a different you try to play back, a different memory, 1143 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,600 a different feeling and all that kind of stuff. And, 1144 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,880 you know, it is is mentally exhausting 1145 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,800 and may not be physically, but definitely mentally. 1146 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,837 And then, you know, at the end of it, you have a chat with them as well. 1147 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,400 So you know the whole day it socially as well. 1148 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,597 But I enjoy it. 1149 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,320 I mean it's worth if you enjoy it, it’s 100% worth it. 1150 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,600 Yeah. That was the hotel and I had rope around the neck and all that kind of stuff. 1151 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,997 And do you normally wear glasses? 1152 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,080 Yeah, yeah. Those are my glasses. Yeah. 1153 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,237 Same shoot, with the nipple clamps as well 1154 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,000 holding the chain that one was with Stephen. 1155 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,480 Um, that one again 1156 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,917 hold the cane biting the cane with a corset. 1157 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,080 That was cool. 1158 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,197 That’s my bum cheek! 1159 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,280 That's the one, you know, holding grabbing the hair. 1160 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,037 That's cool. 1161 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,200 And then that's my dog collar and chain as well. 1162 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,357 I mostly have people come to me, 1163 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,040 but I do travel more than happy travel, so I drive them. 1164 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,560 I traveled to bedford the other day. 1165 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,920 That was cool. 1166 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,960 Going to Milton Keynes tomorrow. 1167 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,400 I have a shoot in Southampton coming up. 1168 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,677 The one in Southampton is on a boat. 1169 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,037 That would be cool. 1170 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,677 Looking forward to that. 1171 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,240 And then, yeah, I've been to a couple of locations as well 1172 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:56,277 that’s so fun, literally like it's a thrill as well, you know 1173 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,099 being a bit naughty on location and like, you 1174 00:59:58,182 --> 01:00:00,160 have to like, keep a lookout and if someone comes 1175 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,477 I kind of just like passed it off 1176 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,317 so, um, I'd like a see through dress on. 1177 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,997 And I had a kind live up to my waist and I just kind of like, 1178 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,997 chucked it down and I just put the hand up like, yeah, I’m just posing normally. 1179 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,437 And normally I'm just like, yeah, this is a normal shoot. 1180 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,520 This is a normal shoot. 1181 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,677 It's this liberating. 1182 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,437 Like there's nothing to hide. 1183 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,117 Like, I'm not even kidding. 1184 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,877 I really want to go to a nudist beach. 1185 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,880 Like, it is so different because when you're in front of the camera, 1186 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,117 you're another person. 1187 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,917 You're. It's almost like you're acting or your alter ego or something like that. 1188 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,840 You know? 1189 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,800 Whereas like a nudist beach, like, that's real. 1190 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,957 Like, I want to see how I feel because it's just going to be 1191 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,200 a totally different experience. 1192 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,600 Yeah, I suppose I'm the version of myself that I want to be, 1193 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,957 you know, like for some reason, if I'm in front of the camera, 1194 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,437 it's like someone's just gone, right? 1195 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,397 Okay, go. 1196 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,040 And then my shell just goes, crack open. 1197 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,317 And I don't know, I can't explain it. 1198 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,440 It just happens, you know. 1199 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,880 They’re supportive, you know, they see some of the photos and they’re like, oh. 1200 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,200 Okay. 1201 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,677 But they're open. 1202 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,317 You know, they're like, okay, well, it's your thing. 1203 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,037 I'm not going to judge if you enjoy it and keep doing it. 1204 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,520 If it brings you joy, then doesn't matter. 1205 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,317 If I had a if I got a partner and 1206 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,357 I just tell them and I'd say, this is me, take it or leave it. 1207 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,760 And if you don't want to take it, then ta ta. 1208 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,437 I might tone it down a little bit. 1209 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,157 Yeah, sure. 1210 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,240 But I'd never stop it because I'm very independent, 1211 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,477 you know, like, I'm going to sound so cheesy, but I don't need anyone. 1212 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,240 I'm happy, you know. 1213 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,757 There’s a big difference between models who want to 1214 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,717 be in bdsm because they think they're going to make 1215 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,320 a lot of money and models who are in it because they actually enjoy it. 1216 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,120 And I'm definitely one of those because I actually enjoy it. 1217 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,437 And, you know, people pick up on that so quickly 1218 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,757 like, you know, you pull out a whip or something and they go, whoa! 1219 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,517 And you're like, well, but how would you how would you cope with 1220 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,720 a cane? 1221 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,957 I'm not in the scene, but it's definitely a big part of my life. 1222 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,397 Like, I don't think I could be with someone 1223 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,400 completely vanilla. 1224 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,920 I mean, I'll be open, you know, and see if they want to 1225 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,360 come into it slowly. 1226 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,997 But if they were literally just plain Jane kind of ‘inbetweeners’ 1227 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,677 you know will from ‘inbetweeners’ kind of thing. 1228 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:56,997 It's like having just a sponge cake, you know? 1229 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,917 It's all right. 1230 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,800 You can have it once or twice, but really, you want the jam in the middle, 1231 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,077 you want the cream, you want the strawberries, you know, and I. 1232 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,520 That's kind of the bdsm. 1233 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,200 Um, I've always kind of just taken the submissive or a switch, 1234 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,597 and then, I don't know, just recently, 1235 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,040 I actually know you do that. 1236 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,160 And then ever since then, I was like, actually, I like this one much better. 1237 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,320 But no, basically, 1238 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,077 I think the most I get 1239 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,520 exercise is I have new rocks 1240 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,757 because I'm quite like gothy by nature or like big platform boots. 1241 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,880 So they're like kind of that thick and they're really heavy as well. 1242 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,560 So really like, tones your butt muscles. 1243 01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:02,600 And I, I jiggle my butt when I brush my teeth like that to all my friends. 1244 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,677 And it's all like I joke the fact that I giggle my butt 1245 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,760 when I brush my teeth. 1246 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,200 So I go into that school in Croatia 1247 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,957 and I've got the 1248 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,840 place for three years and after then it would be deferred. 1249 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,680 So I'd have to take a science test, but that's fine. 1250 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,997 So I want to buy a place here and then I want to change 1251 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,080 the mortgage, buy to let so the rent, the mortgage is covered. 1252 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,800 Go over to Croatia, study vet for four years, come back, 1253 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,877 and then hopefully I would have enough money to pay for it 1254 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,160 and then just keep going because that that's the main reason 1255 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,360 why I'm doing it, because it's just so expensive. 1256 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,600 It’s €4,000 a term or something like that? 1257 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,040 And there's three terms for four years. 1258 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:07,000 So I tried for UK schools and I had the grades, but then they put them up. 1259 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:08,637 So then I just 1260 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,760 missed it, which is frustrating. 1261 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,120 But I got into Croatia, Slovakia, 1262 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,200 America, but Croatia was my favorite, 1263 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,960 so I took the place there and see what happens. 1264 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,837 I'm hoping this is a long term 1265 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,997 plan, maybe about ten years, because then hopefully I'll have a partner. 1266 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:37,400 By then I'll have kids old enough so I can explain to them while moving 1267 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,717 and then they can go to school there. 1268 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,517 Um, and then maybe they could pick up a second language as well, 1269 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,557 because I can't speak one, but it would be really cool if 1270 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,760 my kids could, you know. 1271 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,877 So I've been playing piano for 19 years and I've just picked up drums again. 1272 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,760 So I played drums for eight years, dropped it for, 1273 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:02,600 I don't know, ten years maybe. 1274 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,717 And I've just started 1275 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,157 doing it again and I'm in a band called Scarlet du grade. 1276 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,717 I'm the keyboardist and I am the priestess. 1277 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,637 We're a gothic industrial band, so I don't know 1278 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:22,440 if you've heard of adora bat brat, but she is like a huge goth icon, 1279 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,997 and I would dress like her on stage, so that would be cool. 1280 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,880 And we're going to have kind of like a 1281 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,117 an occult kind of feel like we don't want anything religious or anything like that. 1282 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,640 But that kind of following, you know, 1283 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,117 we're going to do old fashioned like when we've got a gig coming up, 1284 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,480 we're going to put actual, like physical posters 1285 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,237 and stuff like that, and that'll be really cool. 1286 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,800 And then our lead singer Nathan is just nuts. 1287 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,957 So we're going 1288 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,797 to really put on a show as well as a performance. 1289 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,480 So yeah, I'm really looking forward to 1290 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,200 gigging again. 1291 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,677 Just dare to be different, you know, don't go for this esthetically 1292 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:11,680 pleasing, narrow tunnel, but you know, be you. 1293 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,717 And if it's weird, then that's fine 1294 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,277 because that's you, you know, like I'm fucking nuts. 1295 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,117 And people know that. 1296 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,520 Like if I, if I go up to my friends at work and I go, oh, 1297 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,797 guess what I done, or you'll never guess what I've been thinking. 1298 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,037 And they always go. 1299 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,877 Uh oh, like. 1300 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,600 They never know what's going to come out of my mouth 1301 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,600 so I went to work two, three days ago 1302 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,280 and they're like, what is that on your bum? 1303 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,920 And I was like, ‘yeah, that's a cane Mark.’ 1304 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,040 and they’re like ‘why?’ 1305 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,000 I'm very much a person who believes in 1306 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,037 going inwards and reflecting 1307 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,877 and facing your demons head on, you know, 1308 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,357 like accepting them because I feel, 1309 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,080 because I have PTSD, I feel that 1310 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,157 in order to overcome them, if you look at them 1311 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,040 straight in the face and accept it, it has less power of you 1312 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,640 because then it's not the huge thing that you're trying to battle. 1313 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,080 It's this thing that you're like, well, you're annoying, 1314 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,160 but I'm going to cope with you because I can't do anything else. 1315 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,200 You're not going to go away, you know, 1316 01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:33,477 and like because of that. 1317 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,280 So like the nights out, like I'm always the bodyguard. 1318 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:37,397 I am the 1319 01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:39,680 cock block of the group, you. Know? 1320 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,600 So, yeah, I definitely 1321 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,757 facing your fears dead on. 1322 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,957 Definitely inspires me. 1323 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,797 And I think that's the reason why I got into, like new stuff as well. 1324 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,277 Because, you know, before. 1325 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,000 Oh, my god, that was terrifying me. 1326 01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:05,197 My absolute ideal shoot would be with either Victoria Lovelace. 1327 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,640 Christinia one and only or adora brat bat. 1328 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,200 And they are like big, big goth icons basically 1329 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,077 because they're my favorite. 1330 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,997 You know, adora oh, she's just nuts and she knows it and she owns it. 1331 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,197 You know, like in her video, she's like, ‘can you ever be more goth? 1332 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,440 No. Put more, more.” 1333 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,320 Yes. Queen. Hmm. 1334 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:36,880 (Ambient music) 1335 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,397 My name is Melissa Todd, 1336 01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:43,357 and I am a dominatrix, disciplinarian, depending on your preferred terminology. 1337 01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:46,037 And I'm a model, a kink model. 1338 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,320 I do bdsm bondage, I do custom films, and I work for quite big studios, 1339 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,477 and I offer 1 to 1 domination sessions. Everything kink related. 1340 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,237 Whatever you like, for all your kink based needs. 1341 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,680 Come to me. 1342 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,277 I've been modeling now for 26 years. 1343 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,400 Incredibly, I started when I was 19. 1344 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,880 I began lap dancing at the windmill in piccadilly, 1345 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,917 and quite soon after that I had, like, talent scouts 1346 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,437 come in and ask me to do modeling for magazines and videos. 1347 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,637 Increasingly so, yeah. 1348 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,240 Very soon after that, I began doing modeling and found I absolutely loved it. 1349 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,357 I was asked to go to the the janus shop in old Compton street, 1350 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:26,157 as was now sadly gone. 1351 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,997 And I was auditioned in the back room by an old man pulling down my pants 1352 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,277 and give me a good, hard spanking. 1353 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,437 And I was so sweetness and I still am. 1354 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,557 I went, oh, okay. 1355 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,637 I just bent over for him and he gave me a good whacking. 1356 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,877 Oh, yes. You've passed your audition. Well done. 1357 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,160 So I started modeling for janus and fabulous magazine and privileged plus. 1358 01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:46,157 And then I started making videos for him as well. 1359 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,757 And it just sort of progressed from there. 1360 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,317 It was never really a plan. 1361 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,437 I never plan anything, 1362 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,917 but I just found it something I could do and I thoroughly enjoyed. 1363 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,157 And you meet more people in the industry and you just get offered more 1364 01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,237 and more opportunities and suddenly 26 years has passed, oh, that wasn't the plan. 1365 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,157 But okay, I'm very rich and happy. 1366 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,760 So, you know, they are worse fates. 1367 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,717 The windmill is a famous place, you know, we never close. 1368 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,440 There's been films made about it with will young, I think. 1369 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,077 Yeah, it's been going, I think, since the forties. 1370 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,560 It was the first place, I think, to show nude women in London, at least, 1371 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,677 although they weren't allowed to move, they had to stand up to be still like 1372 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:27,440 statues and be naked that have moved on since I got there in 1995, I think. 1373 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,357 Yes. So they were doing table dancing, 1374 01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:34,357 £10 for table dance, £20 for a fully nude dance, which had to be on stage 1375 01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:36,600 so incredibly strict. They're even stricter now. 1376 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,757 You have to stay three feet away 1377 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,120 for table dance, which was only down to your underwear, 1378 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:44,240 and then you had to go on stage to show anything more. 1379 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,237 And I went there and I auditioned. 1380 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,317 I saw an advertisement, in the evening 1381 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,840 standard, saying dancers wanted you will make up to £600 a night. 1382 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,477 I thought, well, that sounds a lark. 1383 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,077 I like dancing, I like money. 1384 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,357 So I went, turned up and and I was wearing legwarmers 1385 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,680 and a leotard because I'm an idiot, as I say, incredibly naive. 1386 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,557 And all the other girls, of course, had nipple tassels and thigh high 1387 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,280 boots and hold ups and, oh, okay, that kind of thing. 1388 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,237 So I didn't get the audition the first time, 1389 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,557 but the second time I went back 1390 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,557 and I had the nipple tassels and the thigh high boots. 1391 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,800 And that time I got the job and just loved it, absolutely loved it. 1392 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,320 I was incredibly nervous. I was so nervous. 1393 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,720 What the hell am I doing? It was horrifying. 1394 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,597 And I was waiting for a punter to pay me before I could even go on stage. 1395 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,277 And I was desperate to talk to all these men. 1396 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,117 I was so shy and scared and I didn't have the right language 1397 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,677 to sort of get men interested in me at the time. 1398 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,557 So I was just watching all these other girls, all these beautiful goddesses, 1399 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:42,000 you know, lips and tits and confidence and just oozing sexuality. 1400 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,960 Hello. 1401 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,157 And I thought, I can't do that. 1402 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:45,837 I can't do that. 1403 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,077 And then the DJ called my name 1404 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,837 because we all had to do a free dance, I think once an hour or something. 1405 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,917 Just get on stage. 1406 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,197 It's like we have Melissa without the tattoo to the stage. 1407 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,117 That was me. 1408 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,917 And so I just had to get up and do it and I really thought 1409 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,997 I might pass out or vomit on stage, which would not have been appropriate. 1410 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,437 It wasn't a kinky club, but I didn't. 1411 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,357 As soon as I was there 1412 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:06,600 and all eyes were on me and the music was pumping, it was Madonna. 1413 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:07,957 I just found I could do it. 1414 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,077 And I mean, 1415 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,560 I wasn't brilliant to start with, but I had a good go and I got much better. 1416 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,157 There was a pole. I got quite good at the poll. 1417 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,637 I'm very flexible. So I was doing splits up the poll. 1418 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,560 I was absolutely loving and I got off stage on such a rush. 1419 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,717 It was just better than sex, better than anything. 1420 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,597 I was giddy with joy. 1421 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,037 I thought, I want to do this for the rest of my life. 1422 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,880 And so far I've managed it. 1423 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,277 That was really the start of my professional career. 1424 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,080 Before that, I've been a care assistant for a year, I think. 1425 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,357 But yeah, I was studying. 1426 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:38,237 I was at university, so yeah, that was my first proper job, 1427 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,917 if proper of the word kind of. 1428 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,280 I read philosophy, politics and economics very useful, and I didn't like it. 1429 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,917 So I dropped out after a year 1430 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,160 and decided to become a lap dancer instead, as you do. 1431 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,477 And I went back about three or four years later and did an English degree, 1432 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,877 which suited me much better. 1433 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,920 And then I did a master's in creative writing, which I thoroughly enjoyed, 1434 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,237 and then when I decided to audition, I didn't really give it any thought at all. 1435 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,197 So I can't honestly say I had many reservations. 1436 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,997 I didn't really know what I was getting into. 1437 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,960 Yeah, I was just too stupid, naive really, to understand the repercussions. 1438 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,080 I remember a friend of mine saying, oh, you know, this is a sex job. 1439 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,357 You'll never get out of a sex job once you start. 1440 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,557 You know, you've got to be really careful what you want it to. 1441 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,000 Shut up. You know, this will be a hilarious anecdote when I'm an old lady. 1442 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,717 Oh, I did this funny thing for six months. 1443 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,877 I got my tits out in the middle of London. You wouldn't believe it. 1444 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,237 But of course, he was right. You never get out of sex job. 1445 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,160 He was Russian. That's why you talk like that. 1446 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,517 Because it's just 1447 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,280 too much fun and the money's too good and too quick. 1448 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,077 And you just get accustomed to having a great, thick wad of notes 1449 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,720 in your purse all the time and not having to worry about money 1450 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,277 and also just being happy and, you know, wearing sequins 1451 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,837 and dressing up and drinking champagne free every night. 1452 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,637 So if I'd realized what I was getting into, 1453 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,797 I probably would have thought about it a bit longer. 1454 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,760 But I never dreamt that this would be my life forevermore. 1455 01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:57,477 So yeah, so far, I suspect I'm going to die doing this 1456 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,437 because I'm good for nothing else, honestly. 1457 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,840 And there's quite a gap in my CV now. 1458 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,157 ‘So what have you been doing for the last 25 years?’ 1459 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,757 well, funny story. 1460 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,197 You can read all about it. Yeah. 1461 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,120 Should I? 1462 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,037 I mean, I told my mum what I was getting up to. 1463 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,557 I said I was auditioning, she was in showbusiness, she was a dancer. 1464 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,280 So she was very supportive. Actually. She it was a brilliant idea. 1465 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,717 I yeah. 1466 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,597 No, I didn't really. 1467 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,760 I just thought it would be a lark. And it was. 1468 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,917 Yeah. Yeah. 1469 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,157 I'm very lucky, I think. 1470 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,520 Very trusting and very lucky so far. 1471 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,117 Yeah. My family and friends all know what I do. 1472 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,197 I was always kind of out as a sex worker, but I've come more out 1473 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,637 in the last few months. My son has always known what I do. 1474 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,837 He's 20 now from the age of about seven. 1475 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:45,797 I was very honest with him. 1476 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,517 I said, I'm doing 1 to 1 domination sessions. 1477 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,237 At that point, he knew because there were canes all over the house. 1478 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,640 He thought it was fun. 1479 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,840 So my mum knows, my husband obviously knows. 1480 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,637 Yes, I like talking about it, so it's not something I've ever had to hide. 1481 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,277 I realize I'm incredibly lucky. 1482 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,917 You know, a lot of my friends do have to hide. They're terrified. 1483 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,840 They're was hiding their phones and feeling anxious and like criminals. 1484 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,000 My friend Arial Anderson, who's a huge bondage model 1485 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,440 and was talking about how she wanted to kill herself when she was 16 because she 1486 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,917 she couldn't understand how she had all these 1487 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,840 weird ideas and fantasies about being tied up and hurt. 1488 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:18,797 And she came from a religious community. 1489 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,080 So she had a lot of guilt and shame around her desires. 1490 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,597 I've never had that. Thank goodness. 1491 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,437 I've been so lucky. 1492 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,920 And it's only now I realize that 1493 01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:32,957 I don't know why there's such a stigma around the industry. 1494 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,720 Honestly, you'd think I'd have a better answer, but I don't. 1495 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,797 And it's got worse. 1496 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:41,920 I say. Since I started in the mid-nineties, it was just seen as fun and now, 1497 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,917 you know, it was sort of Denise Van Outen type lad mags era. 1498 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,277 It was just a giggle and a lot of people seemed to be doing it 1499 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,477 and talking about it. 1500 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,877 And now it's somehow become terrifying. 1501 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:52,757 People are very angry 1502 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,320 about porn and people being naked and enjoying their sexuality. 1503 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,357 We live in this weirdly pro sexuality age where you can identify 1504 01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:01,357 as anything you please. 1505 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,437 I can say that I'm gay or straight or a man or people or anything. 1506 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,357 Everyone's fine. 1507 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:07,597 But if you actually start touching anybody 1508 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,557 or taking pictures of yourself, touching anybody, 1509 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,680 that's somehow horrifying and something to be hidden away. 1510 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,840 And I think that's a real shame because sex is really fun. 1511 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,677 It's a great stress reliever, it's a great mood enhancer, and I think we do 1512 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,000 an awful lot more of it in the world rather than less. 1513 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,237 Everyone's tossing off all the time. 1514 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,000 I think we should just talk about it because that's really fun too, 1515 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,637 and I'm proud that I'm able to help them in some small way. 1516 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,837 I suppose it must be... 1517 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,997 There has been a real sea change. 1518 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,240 What is it? 1519 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,640 I think 1520 01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,557 feminists like being angry. 1521 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,357 I mean, if I'm going to get killed for saying this, 1522 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:42,437 but I think in many ways 1523 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,317 feminists and socialists have sort of won the war, and yet 1524 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,357 they still want to go on being relevant and being angry. 1525 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:50,120 And pornography is really easy target and 1526 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,357 so back in the seventies, feminism was all about women being proud of their bodies 1527 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,597 and their sexuality and using their bodies in any way the hell they chose. 1528 01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,597 And, you know, fighting for 1529 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,400 good sex and good quality orgasms and that kind of thing. 1530 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,037 And now feminism is about restricting women's 1531 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,517 choice and saying, oh, you can't be that kind of woman. That's wrong. 1532 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,917 You know, you've got to be like us and you can't have any fun. 1533 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,960 You certainly can't like men. That's outrageous. You can't enjoy yourself. 1534 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,557 And there's been a movement, particularly in America, 1535 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,597 where feminism has sort of become unified with the religious right. 1536 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,120 And it all seems to be about control and restriction and censorship 1537 01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:26,197 and just being constantly angry. 1538 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,517 I don't have an answer, really. 1539 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,317 I don't know why that's happened. It's very sad. 1540 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,797 I think it's just, you know, the time, the sort of sea change that will 1541 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,077 the clock will turn and it will change again. 1542 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,757 I hope, hopefully will be in a more liberated time. 1543 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,037 I hope I hope I'm alive to see it. 1544 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,597 Well, at the moment, it's it's really hard to be a porn star. 1545 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,917 Increasingly, you get more restrictions and mastercard 1546 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,517 are making life much harder for us. 1547 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,397 Clips for sale make it much harder for you. 1548 01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,960 They keep adding all these extra restrictions and layers of bureaucracy 1549 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,637 and it's tricky and it's getting worse. 1550 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,957 So in France now, you have to verify your age before you look at pornography. 1551 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,837 That's almost certainly going to come in here, 1552 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,637 which is insane, because if you're a 12 year old boy, 1553 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,077 you know how to get past that by using a VPN. 1554 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,717 Of course, it's only going to be the Tory voters 1555 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,561 who will be sitting at home with blue balls thinking, what did we do? 1556 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,197 Why do we vote for this nonsense? 1557 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,917 But the tide will turn, I'm sure of it, and we will enter a more liberated age 1558 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,957 where we think actually touching people probably 1559 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,600 isn't the worst thing you can do to them. 1560 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,317 The industry does pay well if you pursue money in your career, 1561 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,277 and I haven't always often I've pursued that more artistic projects, 1562 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,637 just things that interest me. 1563 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,800 But if it's money that you're after, then yeah, pornography is 1564 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,157 the sex industry is the way to go. 1565 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,357 I think 1566 01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:44,637 certainly if you're a working class woman with not many qualifications, it's 1567 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,240 a very good way of earning a good living very quickly. 1568 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,797 Yeah, I have a substantial property 1569 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,600 portfolio now. I own seven properties, six of them outright. 1570 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,357 So yeah, even though I haven't really particularly pursued money 1571 01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:01,197 and I've always had like other artistic enterprises going on along the side. 1572 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,640 But yeah, I've made money at it more than I need really. 1573 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,677 It changes your attitude towards money when you're a sex worker because you know 1574 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:08,757 it's just always there. 1575 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,757 So I had my bag stolen five years ago and luckily my phone in my pocket 1576 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,520 and I messaged a punter and thought it was terrible 1577 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,277 and he had a big wad of cash just couriered round to me. 1578 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,797 You know, look, this will tide you over 1579 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,760 until the bank sort out and you never feel really worried about 1580 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,397 how you're going to pay your gas bill or if your car breaks down. 1581 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:29,677 It's just not an issue. 1582 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,280 So it's it's a very different way of approaching finance, 1583 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,280 which can make it quite lonely actually, in some ways, because you can't really 1584 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,597 connect and identify with 1585 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,237 like other mothers in the school playground 1586 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,917 who are worrying about how they're going to feed their kids, 1587 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,197 that we could spread your legs. You know, 1588 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,037 there's a thought and you'll be fine. 1589 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,837 But then if you like that kind of advice, mysteriously, it's 1590 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,560 well meaning. 1591 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,600 So I worked at the windmill for about four months, so not that long. 1592 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,037 It was very long shifting. 1593 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,160 I spent an awful lot of time hustling for punters attention. 1594 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,837 There were often about 100 girls and yeah, and I am quite shy, 1595 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,037 so I didn't really thrive in that kind of environment. 1596 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,717 I did a bit. I didn't do too badly, 1597 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,320 but I got tired of all the constant hustle and the competition. 1598 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,480 So I went to the sunset strip theater, which was just around the corner 1599 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:20,877 where it's different now. 1600 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,277 But at the time you just went on stage for 8 minutes about every 100 minutes. 1601 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,640 So about eight or nine girls usually working there. 1602 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,640 You would just go on stage, you'd get paid by the management 1603 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,437 and you'd get tipped when you were on stage. 1604 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,200 There was no actual interaction with the punters unless you wanted, 1605 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,357 but that seemed to suit me better. 1606 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:38,117 So I loved it. 1607 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,557 I was on stage for 8 minutes, so you sort of developed your own shows. 1608 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,037 You had all these costumes and routines. 1609 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,437 It was very much old school 1610 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,957 striptease, which I absolutely loved, and lovely bunch of girls, really nice. 1611 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,437 Still in touch with lots of them. 1612 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:54,237 That was 97 ish and yeah, and I only left there actually 1613 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,200 because the management changed hands and things were starting to change. 1614 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,200 I still think of it very fondly every day with sunny at the sunset strip 1615 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,357 and we were given money for vodka every week. 1616 01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:05,957 They thought if we got drunk we'd flash more. 1617 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,680 I would flash happily, it doesn't take vodka, but I do like vodka. 1618 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,117 So we were constantly slightly tipsy. 1619 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,917 And so from there I moved into like the pub circuit. 1620 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,677 I was working the rainbow pub circuit 1621 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,000 and it was like 50p in a pint pot type thing. 1622 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,197 You'd go round, get a collection, and then you get up on stage. 1623 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,800 If there was a stage or you just like wonder about if not 1624 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,637 and take your clothes off to a song. 1625 01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,637 I did that for a few years. 1626 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:32,080 Then I started doing stripper grams as well, which was great fun. 1627 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,797 And it's like 70, 80 quid for like 6 minutes work. 1628 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,597 You just run into a pub, take your clothes off. 1629 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,677 It seems astonishing now that that ever happened. 1630 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,477 I remember like going to 1631 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,240 to a harvester a Sunday lunchtime and doing a fully nude strip. 1632 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,040 So it's a very different time. 1633 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,277 Then I got pregnant and 1634 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,637 so I started working on a chat line while I was pregnant. 1635 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,397 I was doing like cheap chat. 1636 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,120 I'm just sitting here all alone, nearly naked and juicy, working 1637 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:56,837 my feet up and curlers in. 1638 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,840 And I was watching this morning, I kind of did that while I was pregnant 1639 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,677 and I went back into stripper grams because it's quite a good job to have like 1640 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,397 when you have a baby because you can just like, 1641 01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:06,357 take your baby around with you 1642 01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:08,597 and put the baby behind the ball while you're doing it. Stripping. 1643 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,597 And then hopefully remember to pick the baby back up again 1644 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,317 and go out and do the next stripagram. 1645 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,917 Oh, gosh. Then what? 1646 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,037 And then I thought, well, this I'm going to become ridiculous. 1647 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,477 I was approaching 30 at that point, so I thought, I don't want to be 1648 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,640 hysterical, saggy, wrinkliest, stripper in town. 1649 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,957 So I started to look for other things to do, 1650 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,437 and that's when I remembered that I've been doing spanking porn. 1651 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,760 Back in the day, I thought, oh, you know, I wonder if I could get back into that. 1652 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,280 So I saw an advertisement in the stage newspaper. 1653 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,397 They wanted girls to make spanking videos and I applied 1654 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,840 and I got the job and I went down to Bournemouth to shoot with Vixen ladies. 1655 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,600 And I loved it and just loved it. 1656 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,837 And again, you just don't meet people and I met a lot of women 1657 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,880 who offered 1 to 1 discipline sessions as well, 1658 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,237 and they were the ones with the enormous detached houses 1659 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,117 and the kids in boarding schools and the range rover. 1660 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,840 On the drive, I bet I bet I could do that 1661 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:00,800 and I could. 1662 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,757 I'm extremely disappointed in your recent bad behavior. 1663 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,920 Jenkins 1664 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,317 I understand from all your teachers that you are persistently rude 1665 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:10,757 and disruptive in class. 1666 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,400 Indeed, you even bother to turn up at all. 1667 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,157 My character is miss Matthews. 1668 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,997 She's oh, she's quite like me, but probably slightly less energetic. 1669 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,437 And she's more constantly disappointed and more stern. 1670 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,957 So I'm quite giggly and silly, but she's very firm 1671 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,637 and yeah, she has her particular standards and she likes them met. 1672 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,320 She likes things done her way, and it was a custom film I was making. 1673 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,720 Gosh, must be dread to think ten, 15 years ago. 1674 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,917 And the client who wrote the script for me to follow call me Ms.. 1675 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,357 Matthews. And it stuck. 1676 01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:46,240 And some of that went out on clips for sale and onlyfans and all the rest of it. 1677 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,037 And so I started being Ms. Matthews who I became Ms.. 1678 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,400 Matthews on Twitter and and have been ever since. 1679 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,277 You've simply ceased to stop trying. 1680 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,480 And I don't understand it. 1681 01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:59,397 Your homework is a very poor standard. 1682 01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:02,000 Again you very seldom even bother to hand it in. 1683 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,400 You are late, rude, disruptive, 1684 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,277 and it's affecting your other classmates and it cannot be allowed to continue. 1685 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,920 So we've had a meeting about you and we all are in agreement 1686 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,160 that you are in dire need of a short, sharp shock. 1687 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,717 I'm sure you understand what that means. 1688 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,917 You've heard the rumors about what happened in the school. 1689 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,677 No doubt they're all true. 1690 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,880 I'm afraid I'm going to bend you over my desk, 1691 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,880 remove your trousers and pants, 1692 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,400 and I'm going to give you 1693 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,480 half a dozen short, sharp stingers with the cane. 1694 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:45,360 And believe me, Jenkins, you will not be able to believe how very much it hurts. 1695 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,397 I got mail today addressed to Mrs. Matthews. 1696 01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:50,240 It's very sweet. She's got married suddenly. 1697 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,277 Yes, she's quite like me. 1698 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,480 She has an English degree and she talks like me. 1699 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,317 She probably is. She wears more clothes than me, to be honest. 1700 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,080 I was doing a shoot for the times last year 1701 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:03,917 and they said, is this what you would wear? 1702 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,277 Can you wear something to wear for session? 1703 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,357 I was wearing something a bit like this and I couldn't believe it. 1704 01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:09,197 But it's like a silky blouse and a pencil skirt 1705 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,160 and thick tights and a big rugged cardigan. 1706 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,960 Yeah. So Melissa tends to dress more slutty, to be honest, 1707 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,917 sometimes I turn up for porn, and they can as you look nice. 1708 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,197 But can you please just a cover of your cleavage a little bit? 1709 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,160 Because you just showing too much. Astonishing. 1710 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:25,957 The first stroke 1711 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,560 of the cane is not something that is easily forgotten. 1712 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:30,997 You'll be crying. 1713 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,357 And screaming and hopping about and begging for mercy, but 1714 01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:39,240 there will still be five more blows still to come on, your young, tender flesh. 1715 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,677 And I am confident that that will nip 1716 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,520 this dreadful behavior in the bud and get you back to being the pleasant. 1717 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,717 Charming, clever. 1718 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,917 Young boy we all remember from yesteryear who seems to have mysteriously 1719 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,080 vanished in a fog of hormones and wickedness. 1720 01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,040 The cane is very good at removing wickedness from naughty boys and girls. 1721 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,160 So in your own time, bend over 1722 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,840 and I remove those trousers for you. 1723 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,080 I think my accent has been a huge part of my success as a disciplinarian. 1724 01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:15,597 So usually I play in videos or in sessions. 1725 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,677 Actually, I play a sort of 1950s headmistress, and the fact that 1726 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:23,117 I have this demeanor and accent and I'm quite eloquent 1727 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,917 and I can usually improvise on camera has been a huge asset. 1728 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,197 Yeah, I learned quite early on that men and women, but particularly men, 1729 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,080 let's face it, really like the fact that I sound like, 1730 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,117 yeah, somebody from a Noel coward play. 1731 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,037 They respond really well to that because often your client base is much older. 1732 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,757 And I do remind them of, you know, nanny or that governess 1733 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,877 or that headmistress from back in the day and they really respond, well to that. 1734 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,517 Yeah. Rather than girls with an Essex accent. 1735 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:50,960 No offense. 1736 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,637 I also model as Ms. Matthews if I'm making films, I'm generally 1737 01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,957 Ms. Matthews yeah, but I'm modeling for all sorts of things. 1738 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,157 I do whatever I'm told to do, really. 1739 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,200 I'm very submissive dominatrix! I do what I'm told. 1740 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,077 So quite often as well. 1741 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,117 I do sploshing for example, I do lots of foot stuff. 1742 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,077 What else do I do? 1743 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,720 I do do bondage occasionally doing a shoot where I'm being tied up next week. 1744 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,717 Yes, I do whatever I'm told. 1745 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,757 I suppose I feel most confident and comfortable as 1746 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,357 ms Matthews, and that's what I make the most money doing, 1747 01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:22,040 because that's what I'm known for. 1748 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,197 Oh, I've had so many memorable shoots and such a long career 1749 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,357 that it's hard to think of anything that's particularly stuck out. 1750 01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:35,677 Oh, I made a custom film recently where I had to sing to a camera 1751 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,397 that was really he just wanted me to wear a posh hat 1752 01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:41,517 and sing hits from his childhood, from my playschool. 1753 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,080 That was sweet and lovely. 1754 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:45,757 Gosh, there've been so many. 1755 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,757 I did a splosh one recently when I was like in a game show and I had to answer 1756 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,037 questions right or wrong and whatever I said I seem to ended up getting dunked. 1757 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:53,320 That was fun. 1758 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,877 I was washing myself in his bathroom afterwards. 1759 01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,397 Absolutely covered in yogurt, in the shower, thinking, wow, it's lucky 1760 01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:02,360 I got all those degrees. 1761 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,800 And here I am again in a strange men's bathroom covered in yogurt 1762 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,840 sploshing seems to be insanely popular 1763 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,440 if I put it on my onlyfans yeah, people really seem to love it. 1764 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,597 I don't know why it's really good fun. 1765 01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,040 I like being covered in banana custard and stuff and 1766 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,037 yeah, I dread to think what's going on in their minds really, 1767 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,197 and why that's erotic. 1768 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,037 I don't find it erotic, I have to say. 1769 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,477 Although sometimes, if you like sliding banana custard down your tights and 1770 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,520 it kind of feels quite nice on your skin, I suppose if you're having a food fight. 1771 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,317 But yeah, I don’t think I could wank over it. But each to their own. 1772 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:37,357 I judge nobody. 1773 01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:40,640 But it's a lark, isn’t it? Better than working for the civil service. 1774 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,157 I do an awful lot of fetish stuff 1775 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,317 as well where I have my toenails painted again. 1776 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,197 That's magnificent. 1777 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,197 The girls have to pay for that. 1778 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,117 I get paid to have it done to me. 1779 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,477 Tickling increasingly. 1780 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,157 Actually, I'm being asked to do a lot of tickling shoots, 1781 01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,157 which I hate because I am genuinely ticklish. 1782 01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,797 But also I quite like the challenge. 1783 01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,161 So I get tied to a bed and a man comes in and tickles me. 1784 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,717 My feet aren't too ticklish, so I always tell him to concentrate on that. 1785 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,040 But I also like scream and want to punch people if they come with it. 1786 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,637 What else? 1787 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,437 Yeah, it's mainly domination. 1788 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,237 I do, to be honest, I'm not always a head mistress. 1789 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,240 I'm often like an angry aunt or disappointed wife or boss, or 1790 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:23,320 sometimes I do like prison officer type scenarios as well. 1791 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,960 Yeah, all sorts. 1792 01:30:26,440 --> 01:30:29,037 My work is seen as I have a clips for sale site, 1793 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,157 elegant discipline that's called I'm all over only fans. 1794 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,397 I'm on southern charms recently and I say I work for some quite 1795 01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:38,557 big studios as well so people 1796 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:39,717 can see people know like Pandora. 1797 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,400 Blake I work with often Elsa Svensson. 1798 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,080 Who else? 1799 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:45,597 Sarah Gregory. 1800 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:46,597 All sorts. Yeah. 1801 01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,157 So yeah, some quite big studios are getting increasingly big actually, 1802 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:53,437 because I'm of promoting myself more and more and getting out there 1803 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,840 and doing more international shoots, which is thrilling. 1804 01:30:58,880 --> 01:30:59,997 I have built up a following. 1805 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,760 I've got quite a decent following now on Twitter and on onlyfans as well and 1806 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:04,757 I’ve been doing it so long. 1807 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,277 People know me and remember me from back in the day 1808 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,160 and they feel like they're my friends and they kind of all my friends. 1809 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,560 See, I have clients that I've been seeing for a good 15 years now 1810 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:14,957 and you become part of the 1811 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,237 but not quite part of the family, 1812 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,640 but you can be part of the fabric of their existence. 1813 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,317 So you hear about, you know, the death of the parents 1814 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:22,717 and the birth of their grandchildren. 1815 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,277 You do feel like part of something. And I like that. 1816 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,357 I like that connection. 1817 01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:29,677 You know, it's you know, you have a very intense experience with someone. 1818 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,760 Inevitably, you do get to become friends with them and 1819 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,040 feel part of their life, which is gorgeous. 1820 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,157 I think one of the reasons I'm a successful 1821 01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:40,677 model is nothing to do with my looks. 1822 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,477 It's because I answer my emails 1823 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,078 and so many girls do not answer their bloody emails so that just people 1824 01:31:48,161 --> 01:31:51,240 often get me in short notice because then I will turn up. 1825 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,637 And yet a lot of it is about having the right mindset. 1826 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,640 So just turning up organized with the clothes you need 1827 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,680 and not hung over, which I usually manage. 1828 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,317 I just ready to go and receptive and not causing trouble. 1829 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,597 I'm really, really good actually. 1830 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,237 Just doing what I'm told and shutting up, 1831 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,917 which having worked with other models I find can often be an issue. 1832 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,080 They think they know better and maybe they do, but it's not their gig. 1833 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,477 So you just have to listen to the director and do as you're told. 1834 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:15,917 Shut up and go home again. 1835 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,040 And I have a real skill for just yet shutting up and doing as I'm told. 1836 01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,517 Yeah, but answer your emails 1837 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,917 because last week I had to play a 19 year old school girl. 1838 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,120 It's ridiculous. You know, 46 this year. 1839 01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,837 But I was the only one. It was only my bottom showing. Okay. 1840 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,000 But I was the only one who answered the casting calls. 1841 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,840 Yeah. So 1842 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,757 There are a couple of silky blouses 1843 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,207 I wear all the time with a little pussy 1844 01:32:42,290 --> 01:32:43,997 bow, that I think are satin and fully formed 1845 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:45,797 and everyone, like, says I should have worn one today. 1846 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:47,477 Actually, yes. 1847 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,480 It tends to be that pencil skirt cardigan that's kind of our uniform 1848 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,837 tights or stockings and heels like Mary Jane heels. 1849 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,280 Nothing too massive tends to be it just, you know, fifties headmistress really, 1850 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,437 which is lucky because that's kind of the outfit that suits me. 1851 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,720 Lots of fun, fully fashioned, fully seam stockings 1852 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,757 and like old fashioned suspender belts, that kind of thing. 1853 01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,877 That's tends to I say that suits me. 1854 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,157 I'm a curvy girl, so that works quite nicely with my figure. 1855 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,237 Yeah, I don't go in much for latex. 1856 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,557 And I did a shoot with fetishized recently where I had to like wear latex, 1857 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:20,957 but I'm just too big. 1858 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,517 This is made for like size six girls. 1859 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,837 I'm not size six, but it was quite fun. 1860 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,277 I ended up getting like a gas mask 1861 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,557 and a big like latex raincoat and wet suit and stuff. 1862 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,757 That was cool. And it was boiling hot day as well. 1863 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:32,680 Going to die 1864 01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:34,757 with bondage gear. 1865 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,880 It was fun. It was an experience. 1866 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,757 I sort of have a classroom setting that I use at home. 1867 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,317 You see, I've got like a library type affair next door, so I will use that. 1868 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,277 And it's like the head mistress’ study vibe. 1869 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,717 So they'll take in a head mistress’ desk and a big like a big pot of canes. 1870 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:54,957 And that that works. 1871 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,277 I do work in places that have like designated 1872 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,680 classroom area so whipstock grange, which is down in Portsmouth, 1873 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,317 they have an actual house that is entirely set up like a a classroom. 1874 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,077 They have like a headmaster's study and like a school dining hall. 1875 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,637 It's incredible. 1876 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:11,517 I love working down there. 1877 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,637 Sometimes I film and see clients there, but more usually that's just for school 1878 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,637 roll play days. 1879 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,920 There's a few of those actually hire dungeons, 1880 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,197 and there's a couple in London that have their own designated school. 1881 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,880 And so I quite often go and work there as well. Yes. 1882 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,440 And in terms of the session, there's usually a role play scenario 1883 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,077 which they'll tell me beforehand, or sometimes I'll hand me 1884 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,517 the letter to the teacher so I have to read them in front of them, 1885 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,597 look at a letter from their mother, that kind of thing. 1886 01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,040 So usually they've been 1887 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:40,157 doing what 1888 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,400 they've been doing, often, or they've been 1889 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:46,197 bunking off school or they've been not just just not trying their hardest. 1890 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,517 They haven't had it in their homework. They haven't been studying. 1891 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,037 You know, they can do better. We're all very disappointed them. 1892 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,237 They're letting the school down, that sort of thing. 1893 01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,560 So they have to bend over my desk and receive a good sharp beating, 1894 01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:57,797 often with a cane. 1895 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,080 And I do over the knee spanking and slipper 1896 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,197 and airbrushing and whatever else, have a wonderful collection of weapons. 1897 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,557 I use canes, my I love caning. 1898 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,997 It's so much fun. 1899 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:07,717 I just love it. 1900 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,077 I love everything about it. 1901 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,477 Which is weird because I'm very sweet. Really. 1902 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,077 There's something about beating the shit 1903 01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,037 out of someone and leaving this lovely lines 1904 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,800 and making them scream and dance about the room I just really love. 1905 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:19,637 I don't analyze it too much. 1906 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,200 It's just what I enjoys playing. 1907 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,797 I have been getting a lot of female clients recently. 1908 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,157 That's quite a modern phenomenon. 1909 01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,277 I think the last couple of years really, I've started seeing more and more women 1910 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,800 before that, maybe just one or two in the whole of my career. 1911 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,837 And I think probably that's in part because they see me on Twitter 1912 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,037 all the time where I'm very active 1913 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,957 talking about how I'm seeing this woman and that woman. 1914 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:43,997 They feel safe to come and see me. 1915 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,680 And also because I I'm just very open and out there with my life. 1916 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:48,677 I think it's incredibly brave. 1917 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:49,837 I'm not sure I'd have the courage 1918 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,957 to approach a sex worker and ask them to fulfill fantasies, you know? 1919 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:55,877 So I really, really admire them. 1920 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,360 And I try my very best to make this comfortable as possible. 1921 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,557 And I was incredibly nervous, of course. 1922 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:05,317 And I want to role play school girls and often the boundaries start to blur 1923 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,717 a little bit with women because then men want to session with them as well. 1924 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,997 So they want to be beaten alongside a beautiful girl. 1925 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,720 And then I start using them as my onlyfans for my custom clips. 1926 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,397 So very often they go from being a client into becoming 1927 01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:21,557 like a colleague really, or a friend, and they get beaten free, which is lovely. 1928 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,440 Everyone's happy. 1929 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:27,437 I don't think there's 1930 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,600 really very much difference between woman sessions and men sessions. 1931 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,760 I think just it all depends really on the individual. 1932 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,717 Some women think they only want a very light spanking, some very light, 1933 01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,600 and then they say, oh, I can definitely take it much harder than that. 1934 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,597 Often women can take an astonishing amount of pain. 1935 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,400 Just staggering. 1936 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:47,717 Yeah, it just depends. 1937 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,597 Often women like to role play a lot, 1938 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,117 so they have like a full hour of role play and they like to communicate. 1939 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,357 Often that is a difference. 1940 01:36:54,440 --> 01:36:57,197 But before and between sessions they like to role 1941 01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,597 play with me in messenger, that kind of thing, 1942 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,040 which I tend not to get so much with men, so it tends to be more 1943 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,557 inventive, I suppose. 1944 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,077 But again, I don't like to stereotype. 1945 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,200 It really just depend on the individual. 1946 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,837 Yeah, I think women maybe tend to be more needy and demanding of my time, 1947 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,397 but again, there are plenty of men that do that as well. 1948 01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:19,000 So yeah, it just depends on the person. 1949 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,637 I get a lot of women saying to me that they think they could do my job, 1950 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,717 that they'd love to be a dominatrix because they hate men 1951 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:27,837 and they want to with their backs 1952 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,680 and kick them in the balls and tell them they're worthless worms. 1953 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,197 And that isn't how it works. 1954 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,277 I think you have to love your clients to do what I do, because you're doing 1955 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,560 you're playing exactly how they want to play your 1956 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,677 you know, you're playacting that you are in charge. 1957 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:40,717 But of course they're in charge. 1958 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,320 They set the boundaries and the terms for the session. 1959 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,957 And so you have to love the clients. 1960 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,037 You have to love men. And I do love men. I really do. 1961 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,520 And I think men are genuinely this sounds like a line, 1962 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,517 but I think they're so brave to come to a stranger and say, I want to do this even. 1963 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,120 It's incredibly weird. And I have had a lot of really weird 1964 01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,917 requests and 1965 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,480 trust I'll do it and not laugh and not ask why and not tell tales on them. 1966 01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:07,157 I think they're magnificent. I truly do. 1967 01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,997 Kinky people genuinely are the cleverest, most creative people I've ever met 1968 01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:12,917 and my absolute best friends. 1969 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,640 They really are. 1970 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,117 There's definitely a sexual element to the scene and to sessioning. 1971 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:20,117 I mean, if I'm seeing women, 1972 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,317 I can usually smell their arousal, which is quite exciting. 1973 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,157 And obviously with men I can see their arousal, so that's fine. 1974 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:26,757 Yeah, but it's 1975 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,200 the sexual element happens in their brains and not between our bodies. 1976 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:35,197 So I'm saying things which if you're not into kink, would not seem remotely sexy. 1977 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,800 My husband isn't into this at all, and he just can't get 1978 01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,237 why anyone would want to be hit with a big stick and get paid for it. 1979 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:42,317 He doesn't get it, 1980 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,557 but if you're into the scene, you're into kink, then yes, 1981 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,317 it is incredibly sexual, of course, and they get very aroused and so do I. 1982 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,717 Sometimes I can hear myself sloshing when I'm walking about. 1983 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,840 Afterwards, thinking. That was really cool. 1984 01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:54,637 I beat the life out of and they loved it. 1985 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:55,757 It was brilliant. 1986 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,400 Massive high. It's great. I'm very lucky. I really 1987 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,197 if you're interested in becoming a model, 1988 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,437 I'd say talk to people who've been doing it. 1989 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:07,837 There's a huge community out there, say, 1990 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,680 particularly on Twitter, the kink community is so supportive. 1991 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,640 It's like no other element of Twitter that I've ever experienced. 1992 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,920 We're all out for each other's backs. We really are. 1993 01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:20,037 I've had so much good advice from particular female models, 1994 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,960 I have to say, and other directors, they're really out there for you. 1995 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,637 I'd also say by my book, 1996 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,917 which is a fictionalized account of my experiences in the sex industry. 1997 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,717 There's loads and loads of good advice in there about how to become a model, 1998 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,277 how to become a disciplinarian 1999 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,800 or dominatrix or whatever else you'd like to get into. 2000 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:37,397 And it's really good and funny. 2001 01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:39,560 Everyone says so, not just me. So yeah, by that, 2002 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,357 yeah, just talk to people really. 2003 01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:44,357 And obvious things. 2004 01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:46,037 Make sure people know what you're doing. 2005 01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,597 Somebody knows if particularly if you're going to a 2006 01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,797 hotel room or something, make sure you ring a friend 2007 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,440 and say, I'm here and I'll be out in 2 hours. 2008 01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,557 I was working as a newsreader, working. 2009 01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,240 I was volunteering actually on local radio. 2010 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:03,557 But when I came out as a sex worker, which is always everyone sort of 2011 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,840 known about, it has always been the butt of jokes, which is fine. 2012 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,637 It's hilarious. I get it. 2013 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,917 But when I started talking about it on Instagram and Twitter and I did 2014 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,957 an interview with a local newspaper, I was suspended, which was a shame 2015 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,801 because I was a really good newsreader and I just done my DJ training 2016 01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,157 and I never said anything remotely saucy on air. 2017 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:21,677 I was incredibly bland and boring. 2018 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,117 I would be talking about, you know, 2019 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,680 the government and lockdowns and so on and never ever mentioned any of it. 2020 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,997 But they just felt that yeah, they couldn't tolerate 2021 01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,157 having a sex worker among the volunteers, which was idiotic. 2022 01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,037 I think a lot of people seem to agree. 2023 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,117 But cinque ports radio have taken me on. 2024 01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,640 Now I'm doing Melissa's love lounge 10 P.M. to 1 A.M. 2025 01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:42,237 Every weekday night. 2026 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,717 I'm still getting used to the tech because I'm recording it from home. 2027 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,237 It's very different set up. 2028 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:47,477 I'm loving it. It's great. 2029 01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,637 And they quite like me talking about kink and my modeling sessions and stuff. 2030 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,640 So hopefully I'll be building up a following that and yeah, 2031 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,597 get to use this voice for something else other than scolding naughty schoolboys. 2032 01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,480 Fun as that is. 2033 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:06,477 I started writing this book about ten years ago, I think possibly something like that. 2034 01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,680 I started writing my stripping memoirs 2035 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,317 because everyone kept saying, you should write a book, you know? 2036 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,520 So I wrote about that, and then I left it and forgot all about it. 2037 01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,757 And then lockdown happened and I suddenly found I had all this time 2038 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,757 on my hands and I was just lying in my garden with nothing to do. 2039 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,437 So I thought maybe get back to that. 2040 01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,677 And I had to look at it. I thought, actually, that isn't half bad. 2041 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,600 I could use it, I could do something with it. 2042 01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,440 I decided to fictionalize it and hide behind a character 2043 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,877 because my life's quite boring. Really. 2044 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:32,797 I think so. 2045 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,157 I thought I would have someone else and make these her experiences, 2046 01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,117 but they are really all my experiences. 2047 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,317 And that meant I could play around with things like relationships. 2048 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,277 And it's basically a love story, really. 2049 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,717 But it's there's also a lot of really sound advice 2050 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,557 I explain exactly how I got started and assorted pitfalls 2051 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,877 I should have avoided and would have if anyone had told me anything. 2052 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,680 I wasn't just making it up as I went along. 2053 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,557 And I tell you about how to advertise 2054 01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,360 the kind of equipment you need if you want to begin as a dominatrix. 2055 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,000 Yeah, websites that will help you, all sorts of things. 2056 01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,997 So I really do genuinely recommend it is a very sound investment. 2057 01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,440 If you're thinking of getting into modeling or indeed kink of any description 2058 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:13,917 you can buy on Amazon. 2059 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,078 Of course, in whsmith's website, waterstones, 2060 01:42:16,161 --> 01:42:17,757 Barnes and noble. I'm everywhere. 2061 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,477 My publisher has been really very efficient. 2062 01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:21,597 So yeah, just Google the title. 2063 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,677 It's on eBay now. 2064 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,037 I see people are buying like selling secondhand copies of some pages. 2065 01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,197 How dare they. I don’t think I get the money for that. 2066 01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:29,440 So don't do that. 2067 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:30,477 Yeah, go on Amazon. 2068 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,237 That's probably best if you're in broadstairs 2069 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,077 you can buy at the Royston pub down the road. I get all the money for that. 2070 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:36,517 Except that, then I spend it on beer. 2071 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,437 I probably don't do that. 2072 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:43,040 Do you think we might see a 50 shades of gray style movie come from this book? 2073 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,797 Oh, I would love this to be filmed. I would so love it. 2074 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,080 It will not be 50 shades of gray because it'll be good. 2075 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,717 And actually, there isn't a great deal of sex in this book. 2076 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:51,717 I do want to put people off. 2077 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,237 I say it's some it's not terribly saucy. 2078 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:55,757 So it wouldn't be 50 shades of gray themed, 2079 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,957 but it would, I think, make a really good film. 2080 01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,397 And I'd I'd pay to watch it. 2081 01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:00,837 I tell you, I pay to be in it. 2082 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,120 It probably should have me as a starring role 2083 01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,037 and me as all the supporting parts as well. 2084 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:07,560 I like a camera me, as you can tell. 2085 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,157 I'd really like to carry on writing. 2086 01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,640 I love it. I really do. 2087 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,437 I'd like to do 2088 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,437 more media work very much because I think there's such a stigma around sex work 2089 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,800 and such a bad press all the time, particularly around pornography. 2090 01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,597 You see strip clubs in Bristol being closed this week, you know, women 2091 01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,560 being suddenly rendered unemployed because of people's prejudice. 2092 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,637 So I'd really like to get out there 2093 01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,157 because I'm in this very privileged position 2094 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,477 where I can show my face and talk about what I do. 2095 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,037 I'd like to do more of it and to say, look, I'm not terrifying. 2096 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:41,197 I'm not going to steal your husband. 2097 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,477 I'm not I'm not a junkie. 2098 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,437 You know, I'm not getting beaten up by my pimp. 2099 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:45,317 I'm not trafficked. 2100 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,997 I'm just a really average boring woman who happens 2101 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,760 to have a lot of fun all day, every day and make a lot of money doing it. 2102 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,997 More media work, more writing. 2103 01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:56,797 And also I want to be an international megastar. 2104 01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:01,197 So I'm already this year I've done quite a lot of international work. 2105 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,597 It's just from the square that was like my domestic responsibilities 2106 01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,877 because I also have to make the dinner, obviously. 2107 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,517 Am I like literary and broadcasting stuff that I do as well. 2108 01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,357 I love. I'd love to be just like a megastar, really. 2109 01:44:12,440 --> 01:44:13,077 That's the plan. 2110 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:14,597 That's all. Just world domination. 2111 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:16,440 Well, you know, standard. 2112 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:24,760 (Electronic music)187879

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