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SARA: 99.999 percent
of Hollywood
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is a window display.
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It is a facade.
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And every time a story
like that breaks,
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we think, oh, my God.
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How could this guy have had
these problems?
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The brutality and gruesomeness
of this murder scene
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definitely stand out.
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definitely stand out.
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I still remember
my heart pounding,
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like I couldn't breathe.
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SHAUNTAÉ: When you come in
contact with A-list celebrities,
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jealousy kicks in.
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We have two murders,
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and they are eerily similar.
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If it is even a coincidence,
I'm not sure.
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And this was done
for the fame.
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And this was done
for the fame.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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STEPHANIE:
It was around 4 p.m.
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I just remember a gentleman
coming in, he was very calm.
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He had on a black baseball
cap, a black T-shirt,
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black track pants that had,
like, a lime green stripe down
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black track pants that had,
like, a lime green stripe down
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the side,
and black tennis shoes.
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I just remember, because it was,
like, very put together.
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He smelled of --
I wanna say aftershave.
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So he was dressed really nice,
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like, everything
was coordinated,
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and he smelled fresh.
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One of my other coworkers
at the time had told me
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that he was part of
a boy band previously.
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And this gentleman stepped up
to my window.
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I asked him what he needed,
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I asked him what he needed,
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and at that point,
that's when it clicked for
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me that this was something
out of the norm.
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GLENDA:
We call it Wacko.
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Because there's a lot of wacks
that come from Waco.
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I met Catherine
in August of 2007.
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I met Catherine
in August of 2007.
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In college, she introduced
herself to me, she's like,
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"My name is Catherine,"
but she went by Diamond,
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so that's what I called her.
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Her nickname was Diamond,
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and Diamond is the type of
person that you're gonna
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see her, you're gonna notice
her, she's gonna shine.
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She's gonna make
her presence known.
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She studied advertising design
and print,
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but she made it known,
"I'm a model."
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but she made it known,
"I'm a model."
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[camera shutter clicking]
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She was petite enough to be
a high fashion model.
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She could wear anything,
and it
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would look good on her,
you know?
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And she rocked it to
the fullest.
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She really did.
[laughs]
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She did pageants,
she did fashion shows,
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she did photo shoots, anything
that she can get her hands on.
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I called her Team No Sleep.
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She'd be on the computer
all night looking for
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her next shoot.
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her next shoot.
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She would go to bed just
before the sun come up
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and then go to class
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and then come home and then
get ready for her job at night.
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Like, she was gonna do it
by any means necessary.
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She was a dancer,
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and she would use her money to
book her flights to her shoots,
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[camera shutter clicking]
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and then she'd come back to --
to school
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and then she'd come back to --
to school
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and go to class
the next day.
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She knew that
that's what she wanted,
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to be in the light.
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Catherine's story resonated
with me, because a large
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majority of my own cases
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are situations that have gone on
behind closed doors.
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Catherine Martinez is
this stunning beauty who just
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has this infectious drive,
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but she's really banking
on her appearance.
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but she's really banking
on her appearance.
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So for someone like Catherine,
at that age with those looks,
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it's a perfect place to be,
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to be working in a nightclub
as a dancer
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or to be in a bar
or a restaurant,
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the traditional places
where these young
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women would go to
get discovered.
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They want to meet
that producer,
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they want to meet the manager,
or maybe even their future
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husband who might be famous.
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I was concerned for her
dancing at the strip club.
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It's a very rough
industry already,
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and her safety afterwards,
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you know, walking and being
outside by herself.
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So I never wanted her to be
there alone.
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I'd pick her up while
she was getting ready.
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We were like best friends,
more like sisters.
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The sisterly bond.
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The sisterly bond came...
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I was going through a rough
patch in my life, and, uh,
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I didn't have nobody
to talk to,
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and I had nowhere to go.
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She gave us
somewhere to live.
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She said,
"You and your son,
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"you come with me, and y'all
just stay at my house until you
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get it together."
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I said,
"Okay, are you sure?"
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She said, "Yeah."
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She said, "Yeah."
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And she gave us the bed.
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She slept on the floor.
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She gave us food.
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Cathy was like this...
[laughs]
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you know that birthday candle
that you
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try to blow out,
and it won't go out?
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You know, you blow it out,
and it'd light back up,
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and you try to blow it out,
and it'd light back up again.
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That's -- that's how she was
to me.
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That's -- that's how she was
to me.
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You know,
she'd never let you down.
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She never let you down.
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She gave you 110 percent.
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GLENDA: Back in 2008,
when Catherine was working
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at the club at night,
she met Russell Neal.
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He would come and watch her
dance a couple nights a week,
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and then he asked her out
on a date.
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Catherine and Russell started
dating within the first three
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Catherine and Russell started
dating within the first three
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or four months that she
started working at the club.
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Russell would do the whole
romantic thing, take her out to
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restaurants, he had a brand-new
Lincoln at the time,
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so, you know,
he would drive her around
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in the brand-new Lincoln.
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SARA: Russell was a music
producer when he met Catherine,
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but Russell Neal was part of
the band Hi-Five,
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you know, the '90s boy band,
one of the many.
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Now here's a group, Hi-Five,
that not only just
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reaches platinum,
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but they're reaching
the pinnacle of being noticed.
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From the early '90s,
Hi-Five became a huge success,
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and part of their success was
that they were able to ride
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the crest of a number-one record
not once,
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not twice, but three different
times on the all-important
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pop charts.
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I was like...
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you go girl, you know?
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I'm -- I'm happy
if you're happy.
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I'm -- I'm happy
if you're happy.
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"The Kissing Game"
is one of the top songs.
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Everybody loved that song.
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One of my favorite movies was
"Sister Act," and there was
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a song on the soundtrack that
I just could not stop playing.
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♪ And I never should have
let you go ♪
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♪ Oh, yeah ♪
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And it was Hi-Five,
and I was like,
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oh, I love this song.
Yeah.
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TYRONE: What made Hi-Five
unique was not
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just their dance moves,
but their harmony, as well.
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Russell Neal was one of
the good-looking people of
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the group, and the girls kind
of swooned around him.
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the group, and the girls kind
of swooned around him.
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They were ahead
of Patti LaBelle.
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They were ahead
of Deborah Cox.
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They were ahead
of Ice Cube.
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They were even ahead
of Salt-N-Pepa.
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That tells you just how big
this group was.
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But unfortunately,
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there become stories,
and not good ones.
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Toriano Easley
served time in prison for
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Toriano Easley
served time in prison for
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an unfortunate incident
where someone was killed.
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And it just started unraveling
as an unfortunate amount
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of events led to almost
the demise of this group.
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SARA: Roderick "Pooh" Clark
had a car accident
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and was paralyzed
and then later died.
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Tony Thompson inhaled freon
and died because of that.
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Another band member
drowned in Israel when
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he went to save his niece
from drowning.
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How much more could a group
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How much more could a group
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go through that
had so much promise?
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It just seemed
as though this
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group just couldn't
catch a break.
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GLENDA:
When I first met Russell,
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he seemed like an older guy,
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but I didn't realize that
he was so much older than her.
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She was 18 years old,
and he was in his 30s.
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I didn't really get
a good vibe from him.
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I didn't really get
a good vibe from him.
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To my knowledge,
Russell did not have a job.
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He was living off of royalties,
and also, he did
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a lot of stock market
type things.
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And then Catherine
had a car accident with
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his Lincoln very early on
in the relationship.
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[tires squealing,
crashing noises]
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[distant sirens wailing]
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The car flipped
about three times
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and then slammed
into a tree.
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He's running outside,
and he's like, "My car, my car,"
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and I'm like, "My sister."
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What do you think
is more important,
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your car or my sister?
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They had to airlift her
to the hospital,
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and then once she got out
the hospital,
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she's like, "He's so pissed
about the car,"
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and it's like, okay,
he's pissed about the car,
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and it's like, okay,
he's pissed about the car,
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but you could have lost
your life.
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After she totaled
his Lincoln,
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she felt like she needed
to repay that debt.
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And so she started
paying a lot
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of everything that they did --
their living situation,
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it was coming out of
Catherine's pocket.
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I kind of was like, um,
I really don't like this guy.
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SARA: Russell was like
a great catch.
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SARA: Russell was like
a great catch.
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He seems like this perfect guy
on the outside
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and maybe even
on the inside,
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but there's really something
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deeply disturbing
about Russell's family.
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So Catherine and Russell moved
in about after five months of
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dating, and then
shortly after,
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about a month or two after,
she ended up getting pregnant
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with her eldest son.
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She was very nervous --
as a child
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growing up in
a single-parent household,
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she wanted to make sure that
whatever child she brought into
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this world had both mom
and dad growing up.
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this world had both mom
and dad growing up.
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She ended up dropping out of
college, because she wanted to
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focus more on being a mom,
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and they had two sons
about a year and a half apart
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from each other.
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There's something going on
with Russell's family.
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So Ronald Neal is Russell
Neal's brother, and he meets
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a beautiful woman,
she's 29 years old,
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her last name's Magee,
and they get married,
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her last name's Magee,
and they get married,
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and they have children,
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and this relationship
very quickly went bad.
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In fact, Ronald once was
arrested for assault on Magee.
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He would lock her up
in a closet.
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He would beat her up with
a belt and a belt buckle.
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It was very much overt
domestic violence.
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At some point, Magee finally
had the courage to leave
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At some point, Magee finally
had the courage to leave
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the relationship,
and on that
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same day where she filed
for divorce,
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Ronald brutally attacked her
and shot her five times in
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front of their child,
a 10-year-old boy.
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[distant radio chatter]
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[distant sirens]
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At that point, I'm like,
something's not right
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with that family.
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You know,
I thought that was insane.
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I thought that was scary.
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My heart broke for their boy.
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And to hear what was going on,
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I cried for him.
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I did, you know, because he's
begging for help, you know?
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And all he could do was hear
his mom scream.
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Why would you do that?
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Just leave.
Just leave.
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You don't have to go to
the extreme -- for what?
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You don't have to go to
the extreme -- for what?
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Ronald pled guilty
to first-degree murder.
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He's sentenced
to 80 years in prison,
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which is pretty much the rest
of his life, and in fact,
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he's not eligible
for parole until
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he serves at least
30 years of that.
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GLENDA: That history
did alarm our family.
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We had kept telling Catherine
to leave Russell alone several
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times, but, you know,
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she was really tied on to
the fact that she wanted to make
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she was really tied on to
the fact that she wanted to make
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sure her boys were raised
with a father in their lives.
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Catherine was impressed
with the possibility that
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he was going to be
a successful producer.
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But Russell was definitely
posing as this rich guy
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who just had it all
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and was manipulating
and lying to Catherine
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when they first met.
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TYRONE: Russell Neal left
the group in the mid-90s.
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He was having a problem
with the money
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that he wasn't obtaining
from this group
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and believed that he deserved
more than he was getting.
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And instead of somehow
trying to find
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a way to make it work
or make it right,
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he decided to walk.
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On the video,
"She's Playing Hard to Get,"
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Russell Neal wasn't there.
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He actually went on strike.
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At one point,
he refused to tour
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At one point,
he refused to tour
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until they sat down to
renegotiate the terms.
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And unfortunately,
that was probably one
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of the worst mistakes
he ever made.
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And instead of being
a quintet,
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they became a quartet.
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And this actually
worked out fine.
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I never saw Russell Neal
do anything
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more than what he did
for Hi-Five.
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I never heard anything
on the radio,
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never knew of anything in
which he produced.
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Never knew that
he was associated
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with any other groups
at that point.
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I never saw him do anything
more than what he did
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at the apex of his career
with Hi-Five.
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SHAUNTAÉ: When you come from
a group like Hi-Five,
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and you've performed at
Apollos and they're in
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big stages,
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and you come in contact with
A-list celebrities,
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and then you find that times
are changing,
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if you're going broke,
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jealousy kicks in.
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Me and Catherine, we did lose
contact for a little while.
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Me and Catherine, we did lose
contact for a little while.
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And the last time
I had saw her,
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she was sitting
outside my job,
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and she looked like
she hadn't slept in days.
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Days.
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And I walked up to her,
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and I said,
"Are you okay?"
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And she just stared, like she
can hear me, but she was just
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staring into mid-space,
and I'm like, "Diamond,
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can you hear me?"
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She said,
"I'll be fine."
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She was the kind of
person that
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She was the kind of
person that
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she tried to keep
her problems to herself.
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She didn't want to put that
kind of energy on anyone else.
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And I'm like,
"How are things with you?"
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And she's like...
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[distant shouting]
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"I'm just tired of fighting."
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That's what she would say.
She's like,
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"I'm just tired of fighting."
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She's all like, you know,
"I don't want to get into that,
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but I'm just tired
of fighting."
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You know, she'd change
the subject quick.
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[distant shouting]
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I would look at her,
read her body language,
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you know, she wasn't happy.
345
00:17:48,916 --> 00:17:49,700
you know, she wasn't happy.
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She wasn't happy, you know,
in her love life.
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You know, I guess, with him,
348
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and or whatever personal
that was going on.
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I'm like, well, you know,
I'm here if you need me,
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and we parted ways again.
351
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She came home one day
with makeup on
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her eye, and she was
a beautiful girl.
353
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She didn't need to wear makeup,
and she hardly ever
354
00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:17,467
wore makeup.
355
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So it was really shocking to
see her with foundation
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So it was really shocking to
see her with foundation
357
00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:24,567
on her eye, and we knew
something was going on.
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We started seeing Catherine
covering up bruises.
359
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,767
Catherine would try to hide
the fights at first,
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00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,300
and she came to stay with us
for a while.
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SARA: The unfortunate part is
that all of this was kept
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very, very
behind closed doors.
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Sometimes it starts
with just a loud voice,
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then it gets
to some slapping,
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00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,266
then it gets
to some brutalizing,
366
00:18:57,367 --> 00:18:58,600
and then it's too late.
367
00:19:01,867 --> 00:19:03,800
You know, Hollywood
is smoke and mirrors,
368
00:19:03,867 --> 00:19:05,900
and Russell Neal,
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00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,400
as it turned out,
is smoke and mirrors.
370
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,000
So Catherine and Russell
dated for about five years
371
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,600
on and off.
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They broke up about three
times in the five years.
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They decided to finally
separate back in 2013.
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00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,367
I think that Russell
was manipulating
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00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:43,367
and lying to Catherine
when they first met.
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00:19:43,467 --> 00:19:44,486
I think that he was
trying to pose as someone
377
00:19:44,486 --> 00:19:47,300
I think that he was
trying to pose as someone
378
00:19:47,367 --> 00:19:51,266
that he wasn't just
to kind of reel her in.
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00:19:52,467 --> 00:19:55,667
And Catherine eventually
caught on and was just like,
380
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I don't want to be
a part of your fall.
381
00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:02,867
I want to rise up,
and I'm not
382
00:20:02,967 --> 00:20:05,467
gonna let you bring me down
with you.
383
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:14,486
The case definitely
affected me.
384
00:20:14,486 --> 00:20:16,567
The case definitely
affected me.
385
00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:18,367
It was very unique.
386
00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:21,500
Russell Neal
is somewhat famous,
387
00:20:21,567 --> 00:20:23,867
but that was way back in
the early '90s.
388
00:20:23,967 --> 00:20:27,467
They kind of fell off, and he
really didn't have much success
389
00:20:27,467 --> 00:20:29,100
after that,
and fast forward
390
00:20:29,166 --> 00:20:32,166
about 23 years,
and at that point,
391
00:20:32,266 --> 00:20:34,100
he was about 40 years old.
392
00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:37,000
Their relationship
was falling apart.
393
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,367
She had moved on
and was living
394
00:20:41,367 --> 00:20:43,367
the next stage of her life.
395
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,066
Was kind of a shooting star,
and she was
396
00:20:48,066 --> 00:20:51,967
kind of on to new and bigger
and better things.
397
00:20:51,967 --> 00:20:55,066
GLENDA: 2013 was a big year,
because that's the year
398
00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:57,567
that she finally decided
to say, "Hey,
399
00:20:57,567 --> 00:21:00,667
"it's over between me and you,
and I am going
400
00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:02,567
to do my own thing."
401
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,467
SARA: Catherine really focused
on her career and motherhood,
402
00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:10,266
and that infectious drive had
403
00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:13,567
propelled her into continuing
her modeling career,
404
00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:14,486
fitness training,
bodybuilding, you know, she won
405
00:21:14,486 --> 00:21:16,600
fitness training,
bodybuilding, you know, she won
406
00:21:16,667 --> 00:21:20,367
a couple of championships, and
she was training to be a boxer.
407
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,066
SHAUNTAÉ:
Her goal was to be a star.
408
00:21:24,066 --> 00:21:27,800
That's what she wanted
and followed that, you know?
409
00:21:27,867 --> 00:21:30,166
[camera shutter clicking]
410
00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:32,100
Her star was
getting brighter.
411
00:21:37,266 --> 00:21:41,266
So their custody thing is,
she had the boys 100 percent of
412
00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:43,200
the time --
he would just come over
413
00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:44,486
and watch the boys
as a babysitter
414
00:21:44,486 --> 00:21:45,567
and watch the boys
as a babysitter
415
00:21:45,567 --> 00:21:47,867
that got paid whenever
she needed
416
00:21:47,967 --> 00:21:49,800
to spend extra hours
at the gym.
417
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:58,367
I was really upset --
I could not even imagine,
418
00:21:58,467 --> 00:22:03,667
like, if my husband would say
that I need to pay him to watch
419
00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:07,367
our own kids, he probably
wouldn't be a husband anymore.
420
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,486
So they lived in a condo
on the west side of town
421
00:22:14,486 --> 00:22:15,400
So they lived in a condo
on the west side of town
422
00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,266
in Houston with
their two boys.
423
00:22:17,367 --> 00:22:20,500
But ultimately, I think that
Russell was on his way out
424
00:22:20,567 --> 00:22:22,667
or Catherine was going
to be leaving
425
00:22:22,667 --> 00:22:24,667
with the children,
because he was spending time
426
00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:27,467
away from that residence,
as well.
427
00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,300
GLENDA: I saw Catherine
on June the 30th.
428
00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:36,567
She had came to Killeen.
429
00:22:36,667 --> 00:22:39,967
She was going to one of
the clubs to promote
430
00:22:39,967 --> 00:22:42,166
her modeling shoot,
431
00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:44,486
and so they were both
at my mom's house,
432
00:22:44,486 --> 00:22:45,400
and so they were both
at my mom's house,
433
00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:49,567
and she was goofing
around and playing.
434
00:22:49,567 --> 00:22:53,100
It was very relieving to see
Catherine so happy.
435
00:22:53,166 --> 00:22:54,767
She had her spunk back.
436
00:22:54,867 --> 00:22:58,600
She had, you know, her little
spark that she's always had,
437
00:22:58,667 --> 00:23:02,066
and it was nice to see her
so happy.
438
00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:05,266
It was kind of like the sister
that I always looked
439
00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:10,300
up to, that I always needed to
be like her, was back,
440
00:23:10,367 --> 00:23:13,500
and then Catherine had to
drive down to Houston.
441
00:23:23,367 --> 00:23:27,900
Let me just, like, paint
the picture to what our booking
442
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,100
area looks like --
when you first walk into it,
443
00:23:30,166 --> 00:23:33,667
it looks like when you walk
into a bank.
444
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,400
It's set up like tellers.
445
00:23:39,467 --> 00:23:41,600
So I just called next to
window three,
446
00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:44,000
and this gentleman stepped up
to my window.
447
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,266
I asked him what he needed,
and he just said,
448
00:23:52,367 --> 00:23:55,967
"I got into a fight last night
with my wife.
449
00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:57,500
"She is now deceased.
450
00:23:58,567 --> 00:24:00,767
I'm here to turn myself in."
451
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,166
So in the 15 years
at that time that I had been
452
00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:13,200
doing this,
453
00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:15,600
it threw me for a loop
for a little bit.
454
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,667
It's just not part of
the norm.
455
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:27,767
And it's at that point that
I noticed he also smelled
456
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:28,867
really clean,
457
00:24:28,867 --> 00:24:31,600
which is not the norm
for most of the people.
458
00:24:31,667 --> 00:24:35,266
Like, you could tell
he smelled of...I wanna say,
459
00:24:35,367 --> 00:24:36,319
like, aftershave.
460
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:36,767
like, aftershave.
461
00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:40,066
So he was dressed really nice,
like everything
462
00:24:40,066 --> 00:24:42,000
was coordinated.
463
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,500
And so I just automatically
asked him
464
00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:46,900
for his name and date
of birth.
465
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000
He gave me Russell Neal.
466
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:53,266
So I asked him again,
"Sir, what did you need?"
467
00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:56,467
And he said,
"I'm here to turn myself in.
468
00:24:56,467 --> 00:24:58,900
"I got into a fight last night
with my wife.
469
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,066
She's now deceased."
470
00:25:03,467 --> 00:25:05,500
And so I called the city of
Houston and was like,
471
00:25:05,567 --> 00:25:06,319
"Hey, look,
I believe there's gonna be
472
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:07,166
"Hey, look,
I believe there's gonna be
473
00:25:07,266 --> 00:25:08,467
"a body at this residence.
474
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,000
"Can you just send officers out
to confirm there's a body
475
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,000
so we know that this is
a legit thing."
476
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,500
What's going on?
Why are you here?
477
00:25:16,567 --> 00:25:19,867
Well, uh, my wife and I
got into an altercation.
478
00:25:19,867 --> 00:25:21,000
[indistinct]
479
00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:22,266
And she's deceased.
480
00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:24,867
I can give you
the address.
481
00:25:26,467 --> 00:25:29,500
And so police were operating
and conducting their
482
00:25:29,567 --> 00:25:35,200
investigation solely on that
very simple few sentences,
483
00:25:35,266 --> 00:25:36,319
but that did lead them to
the apartment.
484
00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,600
but that did lead them to
the apartment.
485
00:25:40,667 --> 00:25:43,166
That did lead them
to discover her body.
486
00:25:45,367 --> 00:25:47,000
He covered her
with a sheet.
487
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,767
She had multiple
blunt force injuries to
488
00:25:52,767 --> 00:25:56,767
the back of her head
and numerous stab wounds
489
00:25:56,767 --> 00:25:59,667
centered on her back
shoulder area,
490
00:26:01,567 --> 00:26:04,300
along with a number of
superficial injuries.
491
00:26:04,367 --> 00:26:06,319
She had some defensive
injuries on her forearms.
492
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:07,300
She had some defensive
injuries on her forearms.
493
00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:10,200
And it was very gory.
494
00:26:10,266 --> 00:26:12,867
I've seen a lot of
murder crime scenes,
495
00:26:12,867 --> 00:26:15,000
and there was a lot of blood
in this one.
496
00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:18,367
The brutality
and the gruesomeness of
497
00:26:18,367 --> 00:26:21,567
this murder scene
definitely stand out.
498
00:26:25,367 --> 00:26:30,166
He left both murder weapons
at the scene in the open.
499
00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:34,000
One of the murder weapons
was a tire jack,
500
00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:36,319
duct tape both around a handle
on the bottom part of
501
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:38,567
duct tape both around a handle
on the bottom part of
502
00:26:38,667 --> 00:26:40,567
the tire jack,
as well as the end of it,
503
00:26:40,567 --> 00:26:43,100
as well as a knife.
504
00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:47,467
And the fact that Russell used
two murder weapons told me that
505
00:26:47,567 --> 00:26:48,767
this was calculated,
506
00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:50,767
especially when you look at
the tire jack,
507
00:26:50,767 --> 00:26:54,066
which was duct taped
around the handle.
508
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,100
[handcuffs clicking]
509
00:26:58,166 --> 00:27:01,000
STEPHANIE: After we learned
that, we handcuffed him,
510
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,900
read him his rights,
and then escorted him back to
511
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,100
the sergeant's office.
512
00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:06,319
My niece's grandmother called
me on my cellphone,
513
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:10,567
My niece's grandmother called
me on my cellphone,
514
00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:11,867
and she's like,
515
00:27:11,967 --> 00:27:14,400
"It's saying on the news
that she's been murdered."
516
00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:20,900
And then I still remember
my heart just, like, pounding.
517
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Like, I couldn't breathe.
518
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,900
And I was just like --
like, no.
519
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Like, I just spoke to her --
like, that's not possible.
520
00:27:31,767 --> 00:27:33,767
And she's like...
521
00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:36,319
"It's Catherine," and I'm just
like, "Yes, it's Catherine."
522
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,300
"It's Catherine," and I'm just
like, "Yes, it's Catherine."
523
00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:42,867
And she was one of
the sweetest souls
524
00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:44,000
that used to say,
525
00:27:44,066 --> 00:27:46,667
you know, like,
why not me? Like...
526
00:27:46,767 --> 00:27:49,367
if I could switch roles
with her, I would have...
527
00:27:50,467 --> 00:27:51,467
in a heartbeat.
528
00:28:00,867 --> 00:28:03,467
I just felt like
she was an amazing mom
529
00:28:03,467 --> 00:28:06,319
and just the soul
that has left us
530
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:06,700
and just the soul
that has left us
531
00:28:06,767 --> 00:28:09,066
is hard to replace.
532
00:28:09,066 --> 00:28:12,200
So if I could have traded
places with her, I would have.
533
00:28:16,767 --> 00:28:19,066
I knew that it
was premeditated.
534
00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:20,767
I knew that he planned it
perfectly to
535
00:28:20,767 --> 00:28:22,667
make sure that
she didn't have a chance.
536
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,367
SHAUNTAÉ: And then on
Facebook Messenger,
537
00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:29,000
a mutual friend says,
"You ain't hear?"
538
00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,767
I said, "What are you
talking about?"
539
00:28:32,867 --> 00:28:35,867
He said,
"Diamond dead."
540
00:28:35,867 --> 00:28:36,319
I said, "No, she not.
I just messaged her."
541
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,066
I said, "No, she not.
I just messaged her."
542
00:28:38,066 --> 00:28:39,500
He said,
"It's all over TV."
543
00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:41,367
I said,
"You lying."
544
00:28:41,367 --> 00:28:42,867
He said,
"It's all over TV."
545
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,500
I broke down.
I broke down.
546
00:28:50,567 --> 00:28:52,467
I began to shake.
547
00:28:52,567 --> 00:28:54,667
I began to cry.
548
00:28:54,767 --> 00:28:58,567
You know, I just, I hit
the floor, and I just screamed.
549
00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:06,319
And all I could do was scream
and cry and ask why, like,
550
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:09,700
And all I could do was scream
and cry and ask why, like,
551
00:29:09,767 --> 00:29:11,567
she wasn't ready.
552
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,767
She had so much to go,
you know, so much to live for.
553
00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,200
It just --
it still hurts.
554
00:29:20,667 --> 00:29:23,667
It's more emotional
for me, because
555
00:29:23,767 --> 00:29:26,567
I didn't get a chance to
really just thank her for
556
00:29:26,567 --> 00:29:28,100
everything that
she did for us,
557
00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:31,100
because she did a lot of stuff
that she did not have to do.
558
00:29:31,166 --> 00:29:32,400
She really did.
559
00:29:35,166 --> 00:29:36,319
The person that she was,
the goofiness, the spontaneous,
560
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,300
The person that she was,
the goofiness, the spontaneous,
561
00:29:39,367 --> 00:29:42,867
the care that she had,
the help that she --
562
00:29:42,967 --> 00:29:45,367
I mean everything
about her, anything.
563
00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:46,967
She'd give you her last.
564
00:29:46,967 --> 00:29:50,567
She'd help anybody,
a complete stranger, you know.
565
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:54,266
It's -- it's missing
the love that she had.
566
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,467
When the sheriff then realizes
he's the primary suspect,
567
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,166
Russell, he invokes
his Fifth Amendment,
568
00:30:04,166 --> 00:30:05,967
he says he's not gonna
answer any questions
569
00:30:05,967 --> 00:30:06,319
and that he wants a lawyer.
570
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:07,166
and that he wants a lawyer.
571
00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:10,367
And that's pretty much
the fullness of my statement
572
00:30:10,367 --> 00:30:12,800
until I'm able
to speak with an attorney.
573
00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:16,166
By virtue of just making
that very short statement,
574
00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:18,867
he placed himself
at the crime scene.
575
00:30:18,967 --> 00:30:20,767
We just don't know
at what time.
576
00:30:25,367 --> 00:30:29,000
GILBERT: So...
all the evidence suggests
577
00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:31,900
that she died
in the early morning
578
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,266
hours of July 1, 2014,
579
00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,319
but he didn't turn
himself in until
580
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:36,867
but he didn't turn
himself in until
581
00:30:36,967 --> 00:30:39,767
the afternoon of July 2nd,
582
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,000
so by my calculations,
she was dead in
583
00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:47,567
the apartment for almost
a day and a half.
584
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,100
When Catherine arrived home at
around 5 o'clock in the morning,
585
00:30:54,166 --> 00:30:57,967
the kids were there,
and they were in their room.
586
00:30:57,967 --> 00:31:01,200
They did wake up
when they heard
587
00:31:01,266 --> 00:31:03,767
what they thought was Russell
588
00:31:03,767 --> 00:31:06,300
spanking Catherine
and yelling at her.
589
00:31:06,367 --> 00:31:08,700
[distant yelling]
590
00:31:08,767 --> 00:31:12,300
At around 5:45, neighbors said
they heard loud bangs,
591
00:31:12,367 --> 00:31:14,567
like somebody was nailing
something to the wall.
592
00:31:16,767 --> 00:31:18,800
The kids were then
shuffled through
593
00:31:18,867 --> 00:31:20,500
the living room in the morning,
594
00:31:24,567 --> 00:31:27,467
and Catherine was in very good
shape when this happened.
595
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,500
But if you're being attacked
by a grown man
596
00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:35,967
who has a tire jack in
his hand
597
00:31:36,967 --> 00:31:39,767
and also possibly a knife
at the same time,
598
00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:45,100
she wasn't able to fend
for herself long enough,
599
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000
and the fact that
two separate weapons
600
00:31:49,066 --> 00:31:52,100
were used,
presumably the tire jack
601
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:55,266
was used to strike her
in the back of the head,
602
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,066
and then, at some point,
he had the wherewithal to
603
00:32:00,066 --> 00:32:02,000
switch weapons to the knife
604
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,967
and then begin to
stab her in the back.
605
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:12,500
I think it shows that Russell,
once he got started,
606
00:32:12,567 --> 00:32:16,166
could not control himself,
and the rage and the anger
607
00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:18,967
that he was feeling
when he was doing this,
608
00:32:18,967 --> 00:32:22,100
he could not get it
under control.
609
00:32:22,166 --> 00:32:25,100
I've already killed her,
but instead, he kept going
610
00:32:25,166 --> 00:32:26,266
and going and going.
611
00:32:26,266 --> 00:32:28,767
Nothing was wiped up.
612
00:32:28,867 --> 00:32:32,567
The murder scene was left
practically intact.
613
00:32:37,166 --> 00:32:38,467
There was DNA testing,
614
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,667
and his DNA came back on a lot
of things in the apartment.
615
00:32:44,767 --> 00:32:47,367
There was never a question
that somebody else
616
00:32:47,367 --> 00:32:49,367
could have broken in
and done this.
617
00:32:49,367 --> 00:32:52,266
And he himself said
he got into
618
00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:55,200
an altercation with his wife,
and she's now deceased.
619
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:01,600
GLENDA: And so we need
to find the boys
620
00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:03,367
and get the boys --
are the boys okay?
621
00:33:03,367 --> 00:33:04,467
Like, were they hurt?
622
00:33:04,567 --> 00:33:06,319
Because I know that if
something happened
623
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:07,567
Because I know that if
something happened
624
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:08,867
to Catherine, she would
625
00:33:08,867 --> 00:33:12,166
have tried her hardest to
protect her boys and make sure
626
00:33:12,266 --> 00:33:13,467
that they were okay.
627
00:33:14,667 --> 00:33:18,467
So as soon as the Houston
Police Department learned about
628
00:33:18,567 --> 00:33:20,800
the murder
and sent somebody out,
629
00:33:20,867 --> 00:33:22,667
it's determined
that afterwards,
630
00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:24,667
the kids were then
shuffled through
631
00:33:24,767 --> 00:33:26,400
the living room in
the morning.
632
00:33:28,367 --> 00:33:30,800
Meanwhile,
Catherine's body was in
633
00:33:30,867 --> 00:33:33,166
the living room
under a blanket,
634
00:33:33,266 --> 00:33:35,667
and he had the lights off as
he shuffled them past.
635
00:33:36,667 --> 00:33:39,000
So Russell took them
to school.
636
00:33:42,767 --> 00:33:44,567
That's kind of
the question is,
637
00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:46,867
how much did the boys
know happened?
638
00:33:46,867 --> 00:33:51,367
They knew that they heard
something in the morning,
639
00:33:51,367 --> 00:33:55,066
and when Russell came to the
room right after it happened,
640
00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:59,100
the eldest son noticed what
he thought was ketchup on
641
00:33:59,166 --> 00:34:00,300
Russell's shoulder.
642
00:34:00,367 --> 00:34:04,467
And Russell told them,
"Don't say anything."
643
00:34:07,767 --> 00:34:12,100
It was really hard for us to
know that both of the boys were
644
00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:13,400
in the apartment
645
00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:17,000
when the incident happened,
because they were traumatized
646
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,066
from having to hear their mom
scream for help.
647
00:34:22,767 --> 00:34:26,467
The "who done it" was never
really an issue.
648
00:34:26,467 --> 00:34:27,567
The only two adults in
649
00:34:27,567 --> 00:34:30,500
that apartment were Catherine
and Russell.
650
00:34:30,567 --> 00:34:35,367
So the biggest challenges
that investigators had was
651
00:34:35,467 --> 00:34:36,319
piecing together the motive.
652
00:34:36,319 --> 00:34:37,266
piecing together the motive.
653
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,800
SARA: But here,
we just don't know.
654
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,300
We just don't know
what happened that day
655
00:34:51,367 --> 00:34:54,667
that led Russell to
brutally kill Catherine.
656
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:08,867
The idea that
you could kill your wife,
657
00:35:08,967 --> 00:35:11,367
walk into the police
department or the sheriff's
658
00:35:11,467 --> 00:35:16,667
station, and tell the half
truth, which is a big lie.
659
00:35:16,667 --> 00:35:21,000
Not that she's dead, but that
she is injured and needs help.
660
00:35:21,066 --> 00:35:23,100
Something doesn't add up
with him.
661
00:35:25,367 --> 00:35:29,200
There was such
a stark contrast with
662
00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:29,972
not only what he was saying,
663
00:35:29,972 --> 00:35:31,266
not only what he was saying,
664
00:35:31,367 --> 00:35:34,467
but how he looked
and how he acted
665
00:35:34,467 --> 00:35:36,467
with what he had just done.
666
00:35:39,767 --> 00:35:43,600
I think his plan was
very orchestrated.
667
00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:47,367
He knew he was going to be
turning himself in.
668
00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:51,367
He knew that his image was
going to be put out there into
669
00:35:51,467 --> 00:35:53,800
the media,
and I think he realized,
670
00:35:53,867 --> 00:35:56,567
like, I need
to get myself into the image
671
00:35:56,667 --> 00:35:58,266
that I see in myself.
672
00:35:59,266 --> 00:35:59,972
And so he prepared himself.
673
00:35:59,972 --> 00:36:01,367
And so he prepared himself.
674
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:06,400
He used a straight edge razor
to shave his head.
675
00:36:06,467 --> 00:36:08,967
He color coordinated
his outfit
676
00:36:08,967 --> 00:36:11,500
with black from head to toe,
677
00:36:11,567 --> 00:36:15,667
and black shoes
with neon yellow accents,
678
00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:18,400
and a very, I think,
purposeful
679
00:36:18,467 --> 00:36:21,700
message on his shirt --
it read "King."
680
00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:29,972
I think he turned himself in
for the fame.
681
00:36:29,972 --> 00:36:30,667
I think he turned himself in
for the fame.
682
00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:32,367
He knew
it was going to be on
683
00:36:32,467 --> 00:36:36,266
the news, and he knew it was
gonna blow up.
684
00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,467
GILBERT: Russell appeared
to be very fixated
685
00:36:38,567 --> 00:36:41,367
on his image --
inside their apartment,
686
00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:45,166
he had this little work
station, and he had a pyramid of
687
00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:47,567
quotes from various people,
688
00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:51,700
like T.D. Jakes,
Shaka Zulu.
689
00:36:51,767 --> 00:36:54,867
He had this manifesto
of what he wanted to become,
690
00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:58,200
scribblings in
a notebook, really.
691
00:36:58,266 --> 00:36:59,972
In the next five years, he was
going to become a billionaire.
692
00:36:59,972 --> 00:37:02,066
In the next five years, he was
going to become a billionaire.
693
00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:05,200
He was gonna go to business
school in New York, and he was
694
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:07,300
gonna take
his Series 7 tests,
695
00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:09,266
and he was gonna make
all this money.
696
00:37:10,867 --> 00:37:14,767
He had grand ideas of what
he thought he could become,
697
00:37:14,767 --> 00:37:17,967
even though there was no basis
to support these pipe dreams.
698
00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:22,000
SARA: There's really something
deeply disturbing
699
00:37:22,066 --> 00:37:24,367
about Russell Neal.
700
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,567
It goes to that example
of how perfect his outside is
701
00:37:29,567 --> 00:37:29,972
and how absolutely
broken his inside is.
702
00:37:29,972 --> 00:37:32,667
and how absolutely
broken his inside is.
703
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,266
GILBERT: I think after
they started to separate,
704
00:37:36,266 --> 00:37:38,767
Catherine was living
her best life.
705
00:37:38,767 --> 00:37:43,100
She was experiencing more and
more success, having more luck
706
00:37:43,166 --> 00:37:46,667
with fitness, modeling,
getting more opportunities.
707
00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:50,767
So as their paths in life
continued to separate,
708
00:37:50,867 --> 00:37:53,100
I think Russell saw
the writing on the wall.
709
00:37:53,166 --> 00:37:57,066
She was dating this other guy,
and I think Russell's life was
710
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:59,166
slipping away before his eyes.
711
00:37:59,266 --> 00:37:59,972
And there's evidence
he found out about
712
00:37:59,972 --> 00:38:01,767
And there's evidence
he found out about
713
00:38:01,767 --> 00:38:05,000
this new relationship that
Catherine was having.
714
00:38:05,066 --> 00:38:09,567
There were texts that she
received from this other guy.
715
00:38:09,567 --> 00:38:12,667
Presumably, Russell discovered
these text messages
716
00:38:12,767 --> 00:38:16,667
and was waiting for her
to come back,
717
00:38:16,767 --> 00:38:21,400
and Russell confronted her as
to what exactly happened.
718
00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:23,400
And I think he took
this anger that was
719
00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:26,166
building in him for months
out on her that night.
720
00:38:34,066 --> 00:38:37,667
SARA: We have two brothers,
Russell and Ronald,
721
00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:41,367
and we have two murders,
722
00:38:41,467 --> 00:38:44,000
and they are eerily similar.
723
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,200
Both of them commit
these murders
724
00:38:48,266 --> 00:38:50,100
in the presence of
their children.
725
00:38:51,767 --> 00:38:55,467
They both killed
the mother of their children.
726
00:38:57,066 --> 00:38:59,100
They were completely
heartless in
727
00:38:59,166 --> 00:38:59,972
the way that
they acted afterwards.
728
00:38:59,972 --> 00:39:01,000
the way that
they acted afterwards.
729
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:06,500
Is it a genetic issue?
Is it a nurture issue?
730
00:39:06,567 --> 00:39:08,166
I don't --
I'm not sure.
731
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:15,066
But it's just a very,
very sad coincidence.
732
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:23,700
Even though the evidence is
overwhelming that
733
00:39:23,767 --> 00:39:26,266
they're guilty,
they want to go to trial.
734
00:39:27,266 --> 00:39:29,000
A lot of times,
people go to trial,
735
00:39:29,066 --> 00:39:29,972
because there's always
a chance
736
00:39:29,972 --> 00:39:31,600
because there's always
a chance
737
00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:35,266
that the jury will find them
not guilty or it's a hung jury.
738
00:39:35,266 --> 00:39:37,800
Originally, he did want
to go to trial.
739
00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:40,300
But that was a bad gamble.
740
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:46,166
And it wasn't until his case
was first on the docket,
741
00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:47,700
set for trial,
that I think
742
00:39:47,767 --> 00:39:50,100
the reality of
a plea deal was actually going
743
00:39:50,166 --> 00:39:51,767
to happen.
744
00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:53,066
At the last minute,
745
00:39:53,066 --> 00:39:56,000
we were finally able
to reach a deal.
746
00:39:57,467 --> 00:39:59,972
Russell pled guilty
to 40 years in prison,
747
00:39:59,972 --> 00:40:00,367
Russell pled guilty
to 40 years in prison,
748
00:40:00,467 --> 00:40:02,266
and he waived his right
to appeal.
749
00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:06,066
And Catherine Martinez's family
all agreed that it was
750
00:40:06,066 --> 00:40:09,000
in the best interest of
the case and the children
751
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:12,200
that this is the way the case
would resolve itself.
752
00:40:13,467 --> 00:40:15,367
SHAUNTAÉ: To me,
it's a slap on the wrist.
753
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,467
You know, I feel like
you really need to pay.
754
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,700
I'm happy
that he's where he's at.
755
00:40:26,767 --> 00:40:28,367
That is a sense of justice.
756
00:40:28,367 --> 00:40:29,972
But as far as his sentencing,
no, I don't feel --
757
00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:32,967
But as far as his sentencing,
no, I don't feel --
758
00:40:32,967 --> 00:40:35,266
mnh-mnh, I feel like
he should have got life.
759
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:37,600
I feel like he should be in
760
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:39,800
solitary confinement
the rest of his life.
761
00:40:41,867 --> 00:40:44,000
GLENDA: We feel like he should
have gotten longer.
762
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,367
I really wish that...
763
00:40:48,567 --> 00:40:50,300
he...
764
00:40:50,367 --> 00:40:53,467
possibly just could
have disappeared.
765
00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:55,767
I wish he would have just took
his own life.
766
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,972
I honestly -- I wish it would
have been a murder-suicide.
767
00:40:59,972 --> 00:41:00,166
I honestly -- I wish it would
have been a murder-suicide.
768
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,800
SHAUNTAÉ: If I could say
anything to Catherine...
769
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,000
I love you, girl.
770
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,066
And I thank you
771
00:41:14,367 --> 00:41:16,166
for everything.
772
00:41:18,667 --> 00:41:20,367
I appreciate you.
773
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,467
Why didn't you call me?
774
00:41:32,567 --> 00:41:34,066
Your boys are beautiful.
775
00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:37,367
They're smart.
776
00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:41,367
They're strong.
777
00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:46,467
I'll always love her.
778
00:41:46,567 --> 00:41:49,100
[inhales, exhales heavily]
779
00:41:52,667 --> 00:41:54,266
I'll always think of her.
780
00:42:00,667 --> 00:42:01,767
I just miss her.
781
00:42:03,367 --> 00:42:04,367
I just miss her.
61573
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