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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,867 --> 00:00:05,467 SARA: 99.999 percent of Hollywood 2 00:00:05,567 --> 00:00:09,266 is a window display. 3 00:00:09,367 --> 00:00:11,700 It is a facade. 4 00:00:11,767 --> 00:00:14,567 And every time a story like that breaks, 5 00:00:14,567 --> 00:00:17,667 we think, oh, my God. 6 00:00:19,166 --> 00:00:21,100 How could this guy have had these problems? 7 00:00:24,367 --> 00:00:28,000 The brutality and gruesomeness of this murder scene 8 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:30,000 definitely stand out. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,700 definitely stand out. 10 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,800 I still remember my heart pounding, 11 00:00:35,867 --> 00:00:38,567 like I couldn't breathe. 12 00:00:38,567 --> 00:00:41,767 SHAUNTAÉ: When you come in contact with A-list celebrities, 13 00:00:43,367 --> 00:00:45,300 jealousy kicks in. 14 00:00:45,367 --> 00:00:49,000 We have two murders, 15 00:00:49,066 --> 00:00:51,667 and they are eerily similar. 16 00:00:53,266 --> 00:00:55,700 If it is even a coincidence, I'm not sure. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 And this was done for the fame. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 And this was done for the fame. 19 00:01:01,066 --> 00:01:03,867 [camera shutters clicking] 20 00:01:13,567 --> 00:01:16,667 STEPHANIE: It was around 4 p.m. 21 00:01:16,767 --> 00:01:21,967 I just remember a gentleman coming in, he was very calm. 22 00:01:21,967 --> 00:01:26,100 He had on a black baseball cap, a black T-shirt, 23 00:01:26,166 --> 00:01:30,000 black track pants that had, like, a lime green stripe down 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,266 black track pants that had, like, a lime green stripe down 25 00:01:30,367 --> 00:01:34,066 the side, and black tennis shoes. 26 00:01:34,066 --> 00:01:36,767 I just remember, because it was, like, very put together. 27 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:41,700 He smelled of -- I wanna say aftershave. 28 00:01:41,767 --> 00:01:44,700 So he was dressed really nice, 29 00:01:44,767 --> 00:01:46,100 like, everything was coordinated, 30 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:48,367 and he smelled fresh. 31 00:01:48,367 --> 00:01:51,867 One of my other coworkers at the time had told me 32 00:01:51,967 --> 00:01:55,400 that he was part of a boy band previously. 33 00:01:55,467 --> 00:01:57,667 And this gentleman stepped up to my window. 34 00:01:58,867 --> 00:02:00,000 I asked him what he needed, 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,300 I asked him what he needed, 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,367 and at that point, that's when it clicked for 37 00:02:04,367 --> 00:02:07,200 me that this was something out of the norm. 38 00:02:18,867 --> 00:02:20,266 GLENDA: We call it Wacko. 39 00:02:22,066 --> 00:02:24,567 Because there's a lot of wacks that come from Waco. 40 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:30,000 I met Catherine in August of 2007. 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,867 I met Catherine in August of 2007. 42 00:02:32,967 --> 00:02:36,600 In college, she introduced herself to me, she's like, 43 00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:38,967 "My name is Catherine," but she went by Diamond, 44 00:02:38,967 --> 00:02:40,266 so that's what I called her. 45 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:43,767 Her nickname was Diamond, 46 00:02:43,867 --> 00:02:46,967 and Diamond is the type of person that you're gonna 47 00:02:46,967 --> 00:02:49,867 see her, you're gonna notice her, she's gonna shine. 48 00:02:49,967 --> 00:02:52,367 She's gonna make her presence known. 49 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:56,867 She studied advertising design and print, 50 00:02:56,967 --> 00:03:00,000 but she made it known, "I'm a model." 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,100 but she made it known, "I'm a model." 52 00:03:00,166 --> 00:03:02,567 [camera shutter clicking] 53 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:06,467 She was petite enough to be a high fashion model. 54 00:03:06,567 --> 00:03:08,100 She could wear anything, and it 55 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:10,500 would look good on her, you know? 56 00:03:10,567 --> 00:03:12,500 And she rocked it to the fullest. 57 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:14,100 She really did. [laughs] 58 00:03:14,166 --> 00:03:18,100 She did pageants, she did fashion shows, 59 00:03:18,166 --> 00:03:21,467 she did photo shoots, anything that she can get her hands on. 60 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:25,767 I called her Team No Sleep. 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,100 She'd be on the computer all night looking for 62 00:03:29,166 --> 00:03:30,000 her next shoot. 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,467 her next shoot. 64 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:35,000 She would go to bed just before the sun come up 65 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:37,867 and then go to class 66 00:03:39,867 --> 00:03:43,900 and then come home and then get ready for her job at night. 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Like, she was gonna do it by any means necessary. 68 00:03:49,467 --> 00:03:50,734 She was a dancer, 69 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:57,800 and she would use her money to book her flights to her shoots, 70 00:03:57,867 --> 00:03:59,166 [camera shutter clicking] 71 00:03:59,166 --> 00:04:00,000 and then she'd come back to -- to school 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,500 and then she'd come back to -- to school 73 00:04:00,567 --> 00:04:03,166 and go to class the next day. 74 00:04:03,266 --> 00:04:05,567 She knew that that's what she wanted, 75 00:04:06,767 --> 00:04:08,700 to be in the light. 76 00:04:11,467 --> 00:04:15,367 Catherine's story resonated with me, because a large 77 00:04:15,467 --> 00:04:16,667 majority of my own cases 78 00:04:16,767 --> 00:04:20,500 are situations that have gone on behind closed doors. 79 00:04:21,567 --> 00:04:25,367 Catherine Martinez is this stunning beauty who just 80 00:04:25,367 --> 00:04:27,567 has this infectious drive, 81 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:30,000 but she's really banking on her appearance. 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,367 but she's really banking on her appearance. 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,066 So for someone like Catherine, at that age with those looks, 84 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:37,266 it's a perfect place to be, 85 00:04:37,266 --> 00:04:39,967 to be working in a nightclub as a dancer 86 00:04:39,967 --> 00:04:42,700 or to be in a bar or a restaurant, 87 00:04:42,767 --> 00:04:45,667 the traditional places where these young 88 00:04:45,767 --> 00:04:47,567 women would go to get discovered. 89 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:50,200 They want to meet that producer, 90 00:04:50,266 --> 00:04:53,300 they want to meet the manager, or maybe even their future 91 00:04:53,367 --> 00:04:54,867 husband who might be famous. 92 00:04:56,467 --> 00:04:59,700 I was concerned for her dancing at the strip club. 93 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:03,266 It's a very rough industry already, 94 00:05:03,367 --> 00:05:05,567 and her safety afterwards, 95 00:05:05,567 --> 00:05:08,500 you know, walking and being outside by herself. 96 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:13,567 So I never wanted her to be there alone. 97 00:05:14,667 --> 00:05:17,367 I'd pick her up while she was getting ready. 98 00:05:19,767 --> 00:05:23,166 We were like best friends, more like sisters. 99 00:05:23,266 --> 00:05:25,000 The sisterly bond. 100 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:40,166 The sisterly bond came... 101 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:44,567 I was going through a rough patch in my life, and, uh, 102 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:47,200 I didn't have nobody to talk to, 103 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:48,700 and I had nowhere to go. 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,600 She gave us somewhere to live. 105 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:53,967 She said, "You and your son, 106 00:05:53,967 --> 00:05:56,467 "you come with me, and y'all just stay at my house until you 107 00:05:56,567 --> 00:05:58,100 get it together." 108 00:05:58,166 --> 00:05:59,266 I said, "Okay, are you sure?" 109 00:05:59,266 --> 00:06:00,000 She said, "Yeah." 110 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,166 She said, "Yeah." 111 00:06:01,166 --> 00:06:03,767 And she gave us the bed. 112 00:06:03,767 --> 00:06:05,367 She slept on the floor. 113 00:06:09,867 --> 00:06:11,400 She gave us food. 114 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:20,266 Cathy was like this... [laughs] 115 00:06:20,367 --> 00:06:22,266 you know that birthday candle that you 116 00:06:22,266 --> 00:06:24,200 try to blow out, and it won't go out? 117 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:26,567 You know, you blow it out, and it'd light back up, 118 00:06:26,567 --> 00:06:29,066 and you try to blow it out, and it'd light back up again. 119 00:06:29,066 --> 00:06:30,000 That's -- that's how she was to me. 120 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,200 That's -- that's how she was to me. 121 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:33,266 You know, she'd never let you down. 122 00:06:33,266 --> 00:06:34,500 She never let you down. 123 00:06:34,567 --> 00:06:37,367 She gave you 110 percent. 124 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:43,300 GLENDA: Back in 2008, when Catherine was working 125 00:06:43,367 --> 00:06:47,066 at the club at night, she met Russell Neal. 126 00:06:48,266 --> 00:06:53,166 He would come and watch her dance a couple nights a week, 127 00:06:53,166 --> 00:06:56,100 and then he asked her out on a date. 128 00:06:57,467 --> 00:07:00,000 Catherine and Russell started dating within the first three 129 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,567 Catherine and Russell started dating within the first three 130 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:06,667 or four months that she started working at the club. 131 00:07:06,667 --> 00:07:10,400 Russell would do the whole romantic thing, take her out to 132 00:07:10,467 --> 00:07:14,000 restaurants, he had a brand-new Lincoln at the time, 133 00:07:14,066 --> 00:07:15,767 so, you know, he would drive her around 134 00:07:15,867 --> 00:07:17,266 in the brand-new Lincoln. 135 00:07:19,667 --> 00:07:22,767 SARA: Russell was a music producer when he met Catherine, 136 00:07:22,867 --> 00:07:26,400 but Russell Neal was part of the band Hi-Five, 137 00:07:26,467 --> 00:07:29,266 you know, the '90s boy band, one of the many. 138 00:07:30,567 --> 00:07:33,166 Now here's a group, Hi-Five, that not only just 139 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:34,767 reaches platinum, 140 00:07:34,867 --> 00:07:37,800 but they're reaching the pinnacle of being noticed. 141 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:43,266 From the early '90s, Hi-Five became a huge success, 142 00:07:44,367 --> 00:07:47,400 and part of their success was that they were able to ride 143 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,900 the crest of a number-one record not once, 144 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,500 not twice, but three different times on the all-important 145 00:07:53,567 --> 00:07:55,000 pop charts. 146 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:56,667 I was like... 147 00:07:56,667 --> 00:07:59,066 you go girl, you know? 148 00:07:59,066 --> 00:08:00,000 I'm -- I'm happy if you're happy. 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 I'm -- I'm happy if you're happy. 150 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:04,100 "The Kissing Game" is one of the top songs. 151 00:08:04,166 --> 00:08:05,867 Everybody loved that song. 152 00:08:05,867 --> 00:08:08,567 One of my favorite movies was "Sister Act," and there was 153 00:08:08,567 --> 00:08:12,300 a song on the soundtrack that I just could not stop playing. 154 00:08:12,367 --> 00:08:14,667 ♪ And I never should have let you go ♪ 155 00:08:14,767 --> 00:08:15,667 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 156 00:08:15,767 --> 00:08:17,367 And it was Hi-Five, and I was like, 157 00:08:17,467 --> 00:08:19,767 oh, I love this song. Yeah. 158 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:22,667 TYRONE: What made Hi-Five unique was not 159 00:08:22,767 --> 00:08:27,166 just their dance moves, but their harmony, as well. 160 00:08:27,266 --> 00:08:29,867 Russell Neal was one of the good-looking people of 161 00:08:29,967 --> 00:08:30,000 the group, and the girls kind of swooned around him. 162 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,800 the group, and the girls kind of swooned around him. 163 00:08:32,867 --> 00:08:34,867 They were ahead of Patti LaBelle. 164 00:08:34,867 --> 00:08:36,967 They were ahead of Deborah Cox. 165 00:08:36,967 --> 00:08:38,700 They were ahead of Ice Cube. 166 00:08:38,767 --> 00:08:42,000 They were even ahead of Salt-N-Pepa. 167 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:45,900 That tells you just how big this group was. 168 00:08:50,767 --> 00:08:53,066 But unfortunately, 169 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:56,200 there become stories, and not good ones. 170 00:08:57,867 --> 00:09:00,000 Toriano Easley served time in prison for 171 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,166 Toriano Easley served time in prison for 172 00:09:00,266 --> 00:09:03,600 an unfortunate incident where someone was killed. 173 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:07,100 And it just started unraveling as an unfortunate amount 174 00:09:07,166 --> 00:09:11,667 of events led to almost the demise of this group. 175 00:09:11,667 --> 00:09:14,100 SARA: Roderick "Pooh" Clark had a car accident 176 00:09:14,166 --> 00:09:17,467 and was paralyzed and then later died. 177 00:09:17,467 --> 00:09:22,066 Tony Thompson inhaled freon and died because of that. 178 00:09:22,066 --> 00:09:25,567 Another band member drowned in Israel when 179 00:09:25,667 --> 00:09:29,567 he went to save his niece from drowning. 180 00:09:29,567 --> 00:09:30,000 How much more could a group 181 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,400 How much more could a group 182 00:09:31,467 --> 00:09:34,000 go through that had so much promise? 183 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:36,266 It just seemed as though this 184 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:38,367 group just couldn't catch a break. 185 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:44,367 GLENDA: When I first met Russell, 186 00:09:44,467 --> 00:09:47,266 he seemed like an older guy, 187 00:09:47,266 --> 00:09:50,867 but I didn't realize that he was so much older than her. 188 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:56,266 She was 18 years old, and he was in his 30s. 189 00:09:56,266 --> 00:10:00,000 I didn't really get a good vibe from him. 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,100 I didn't really get a good vibe from him. 191 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:04,000 To my knowledge, Russell did not have a job. 192 00:10:04,066 --> 00:10:08,900 He was living off of royalties, and also, he did 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,367 a lot of stock market type things. 194 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,667 And then Catherine had a car accident with 195 00:10:16,767 --> 00:10:20,367 his Lincoln very early on in the relationship. 196 00:10:20,467 --> 00:10:22,500 [tires squealing, crashing noises] 197 00:10:22,567 --> 00:10:24,166 [distant sirens wailing] 198 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:26,367 The car flipped about three times 199 00:10:26,467 --> 00:10:28,266 and then slammed into a tree. 200 00:10:30,767 --> 00:10:34,467 He's running outside, and he's like, "My car, my car," 201 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:37,200 and I'm like, "My sister." 202 00:10:37,266 --> 00:10:39,400 What do you think is more important, 203 00:10:39,467 --> 00:10:41,266 your car or my sister? 204 00:10:43,567 --> 00:10:47,166 They had to airlift her to the hospital, 205 00:10:51,767 --> 00:10:54,166 and then once she got out the hospital, 206 00:10:54,166 --> 00:10:57,700 she's like, "He's so pissed about the car," 207 00:10:57,767 --> 00:11:00,000 and it's like, okay, he's pissed about the car, 208 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,867 and it's like, okay, he's pissed about the car, 209 00:11:00,867 --> 00:11:03,000 but you could have lost your life. 210 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:07,667 After she totaled his Lincoln, 211 00:11:07,767 --> 00:11:10,567 she felt like she needed to repay that debt. 212 00:11:10,667 --> 00:11:13,800 And so she started paying a lot 213 00:11:13,867 --> 00:11:18,400 of everything that they did -- their living situation, 214 00:11:18,467 --> 00:11:20,967 it was coming out of Catherine's pocket. 215 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:28,867 I kind of was like, um, I really don't like this guy. 216 00:11:28,967 --> 00:11:30,000 SARA: Russell was like a great catch. 217 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,500 SARA: Russell was like a great catch. 218 00:11:31,567 --> 00:11:35,166 He seems like this perfect guy on the outside 219 00:11:35,266 --> 00:11:37,200 and maybe even on the inside, 220 00:11:38,867 --> 00:11:40,400 but there's really something 221 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:43,567 deeply disturbing about Russell's family. 222 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:56,700 So Catherine and Russell moved in about after five months of 223 00:11:56,767 --> 00:11:59,467 dating, and then shortly after, 224 00:11:59,567 --> 00:12:02,467 about a month or two after, she ended up getting pregnant 225 00:12:02,567 --> 00:12:03,900 with her eldest son. 226 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,600 She was very nervous -- as a child 227 00:12:09,667 --> 00:12:12,166 growing up in a single-parent household, 228 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:16,867 she wanted to make sure that whatever child she brought into 229 00:12:16,867 --> 00:12:18,916 this world had both mom and dad growing up. 230 00:12:18,916 --> 00:12:20,300 this world had both mom and dad growing up. 231 00:12:20,367 --> 00:12:25,667 She ended up dropping out of college, because she wanted to 232 00:12:25,767 --> 00:12:28,000 focus more on being a mom, 233 00:12:28,066 --> 00:12:31,467 and they had two sons about a year and a half apart 234 00:12:31,567 --> 00:12:32,667 from each other. 235 00:12:34,467 --> 00:12:38,266 There's something going on with Russell's family. 236 00:12:38,266 --> 00:12:43,967 So Ronald Neal is Russell Neal's brother, and he meets 237 00:12:43,967 --> 00:12:46,166 a beautiful woman, she's 29 years old, 238 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,916 her last name's Magee, and they get married, 239 00:12:48,916 --> 00:12:49,000 her last name's Magee, and they get married, 240 00:12:49,066 --> 00:12:50,467 and they have children, 241 00:12:50,467 --> 00:12:55,367 and this relationship very quickly went bad. 242 00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:02,700 In fact, Ronald once was arrested for assault on Magee. 243 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,900 He would lock her up in a closet. 244 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,867 He would beat her up with a belt and a belt buckle. 245 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:17,567 It was very much overt domestic violence. 246 00:13:18,867 --> 00:13:18,916 At some point, Magee finally had the courage to leave 247 00:13:18,916 --> 00:13:21,800 At some point, Magee finally had the courage to leave 248 00:13:21,867 --> 00:13:23,700 the relationship, and on that 249 00:13:23,767 --> 00:13:26,867 same day where she filed for divorce, 250 00:13:26,967 --> 00:13:32,900 Ronald brutally attacked her and shot her five times in 251 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,867 front of their child, a 10-year-old boy. 252 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,367 [distant radio chatter] 253 00:13:39,367 --> 00:13:41,500 [distant sirens] 254 00:13:45,266 --> 00:13:47,066 At that point, I'm like, something's not right 255 00:13:47,066 --> 00:13:48,166 with that family. 256 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,800 You know, I thought that was insane. 257 00:13:51,867 --> 00:13:53,467 I thought that was scary. 258 00:13:53,467 --> 00:13:55,600 My heart broke for their boy. 259 00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:01,800 And to hear what was going on, 260 00:14:01,867 --> 00:14:03,100 I cried for him. 261 00:14:05,767 --> 00:14:09,300 I did, you know, because he's begging for help, you know? 262 00:14:09,367 --> 00:14:11,500 And all he could do was hear his mom scream. 263 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,300 Why would you do that? 264 00:14:14,367 --> 00:14:17,100 Just leave. Just leave. 265 00:14:17,166 --> 00:14:18,916 You don't have to go to the extreme -- for what? 266 00:14:18,916 --> 00:14:20,867 You don't have to go to the extreme -- for what? 267 00:14:23,767 --> 00:14:27,166 Ronald pled guilty to first-degree murder. 268 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,166 He's sentenced to 80 years in prison, 269 00:14:29,266 --> 00:14:31,600 which is pretty much the rest of his life, and in fact, 270 00:14:31,667 --> 00:14:34,000 he's not eligible for parole until 271 00:14:34,066 --> 00:14:36,100 he serves at least 30 years of that. 272 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,500 GLENDA: That history did alarm our family. 273 00:14:41,567 --> 00:14:46,667 We had kept telling Catherine to leave Russell alone several 274 00:14:46,667 --> 00:14:48,467 times, but, you know, 275 00:14:48,467 --> 00:14:48,916 she was really tied on to the fact that she wanted to make 276 00:14:48,916 --> 00:14:51,300 she was really tied on to the fact that she wanted to make 277 00:14:51,367 --> 00:14:55,266 sure her boys were raised with a father in their lives. 278 00:14:58,066 --> 00:15:03,500 Catherine was impressed with the possibility that 279 00:15:03,567 --> 00:15:06,900 he was going to be a successful producer. 280 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:13,000 But Russell was definitely posing as this rich guy 281 00:15:13,066 --> 00:15:14,567 who just had it all 282 00:15:14,667 --> 00:15:17,166 and was manipulating and lying to Catherine 283 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:18,467 when they first met. 284 00:15:20,266 --> 00:15:23,767 TYRONE: Russell Neal left the group in the mid-90s. 285 00:15:25,367 --> 00:15:27,467 He was having a problem with the money 286 00:15:27,467 --> 00:15:29,667 that he wasn't obtaining from this group 287 00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:32,166 and believed that he deserved more than he was getting. 288 00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:34,266 And instead of somehow trying to find 289 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:36,600 a way to make it work or make it right, 290 00:15:36,667 --> 00:15:38,367 he decided to walk. 291 00:15:39,567 --> 00:15:42,166 On the video, "She's Playing Hard to Get," 292 00:15:42,166 --> 00:15:44,667 Russell Neal wasn't there. 293 00:15:44,667 --> 00:15:46,467 He actually went on strike. 294 00:15:47,467 --> 00:15:48,916 At one point, he refused to tour 295 00:15:48,916 --> 00:15:50,500 At one point, he refused to tour 296 00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:53,567 until they sat down to renegotiate the terms. 297 00:15:53,667 --> 00:15:56,066 And unfortunately, that was probably one 298 00:15:56,066 --> 00:15:57,700 of the worst mistakes he ever made. 299 00:15:58,867 --> 00:16:00,767 And instead of being a quintet, 300 00:16:00,767 --> 00:16:02,800 they became a quartet. 301 00:16:02,867 --> 00:16:05,300 And this actually worked out fine. 302 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:08,667 I never saw Russell Neal do anything 303 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:10,667 more than what he did for Hi-Five. 304 00:16:10,767 --> 00:16:12,567 I never heard anything on the radio, 305 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:14,800 never knew of anything in which he produced. 306 00:16:14,867 --> 00:16:16,567 Never knew that he was associated 307 00:16:16,567 --> 00:16:18,567 with any other groups at that point. 308 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,400 I never saw him do anything more than what he did 309 00:16:22,467 --> 00:16:25,567 at the apex of his career with Hi-Five. 310 00:16:28,266 --> 00:16:31,266 SHAUNTAÉ: When you come from a group like Hi-Five, 311 00:16:31,367 --> 00:16:33,967 and you've performed at Apollos and they're in 312 00:16:33,967 --> 00:16:35,800 big stages, 313 00:16:35,867 --> 00:16:39,000 and you come in contact with A-list celebrities, 314 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:42,367 and then you find that times are changing, 315 00:16:42,367 --> 00:16:43,567 if you're going broke, 316 00:16:44,567 --> 00:16:45,800 jealousy kicks in. 317 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:48,916 Me and Catherine, we did lose contact for a little while. 318 00:16:48,916 --> 00:16:51,767 Me and Catherine, we did lose contact for a little while. 319 00:16:51,867 --> 00:16:54,300 And the last time I had saw her, 320 00:16:54,367 --> 00:16:56,300 she was sitting outside my job, 321 00:16:56,367 --> 00:16:58,967 and she looked like she hadn't slept in days. 322 00:17:00,667 --> 00:17:01,700 Days. 323 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,266 And I walked up to her, 324 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:07,600 and I said, "Are you okay?" 325 00:17:07,667 --> 00:17:10,400 And she just stared, like she can hear me, but she was just 326 00:17:10,467 --> 00:17:13,166 staring into mid-space, and I'm like, "Diamond, 327 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:14,767 can you hear me?" 328 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:16,200 She said, "I'll be fine." 329 00:17:18,367 --> 00:17:18,916 She was the kind of person that 330 00:17:18,916 --> 00:17:19,800 She was the kind of person that 331 00:17:19,867 --> 00:17:22,200 she tried to keep her problems to herself. 332 00:17:23,367 --> 00:17:27,000 She didn't want to put that kind of energy on anyone else. 333 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,200 And I'm like, "How are things with you?" 334 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:31,066 And she's like... 335 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:32,567 [distant shouting] 336 00:17:32,567 --> 00:17:33,767 "I'm just tired of fighting." 337 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,900 That's what she would say. She's like, 338 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,200 "I'm just tired of fighting." 339 00:17:37,266 --> 00:17:39,266 She's all like, you know, "I don't want to get into that, 340 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:40,767 but I'm just tired of fighting." 341 00:17:40,867 --> 00:17:42,867 You know, she'd change the subject quick. 342 00:17:42,967 --> 00:17:45,166 [distant shouting] 343 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:47,100 I would look at her, read her body language, 344 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:48,916 you know, she wasn't happy. 345 00:17:48,916 --> 00:17:49,700 you know, she wasn't happy. 346 00:17:49,767 --> 00:17:52,567 She wasn't happy, you know, in her love life. 347 00:17:52,567 --> 00:17:54,900 You know, I guess, with him, 348 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,367 and or whatever personal that was going on. 349 00:17:57,367 --> 00:17:59,266 I'm like, well, you know, I'm here if you need me, 350 00:17:59,367 --> 00:18:01,967 and we parted ways again. 351 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,166 She came home one day with makeup on 352 00:18:10,166 --> 00:18:13,166 her eye, and she was a beautiful girl. 353 00:18:13,166 --> 00:18:16,266 She didn't need to wear makeup, and she hardly ever 354 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:17,467 wore makeup. 355 00:18:17,467 --> 00:18:18,916 So it was really shocking to see her with foundation 356 00:18:18,916 --> 00:18:21,000 So it was really shocking to see her with foundation 357 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:24,567 on her eye, and we knew something was going on. 358 00:18:26,767 --> 00:18:31,467 We started seeing Catherine covering up bruises. 359 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,767 Catherine would try to hide the fights at first, 360 00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,300 and she came to stay with us for a while. 361 00:18:41,467 --> 00:18:44,900 SARA: The unfortunate part is that all of this was kept 362 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,367 very, very behind closed doors. 363 00:18:51,767 --> 00:18:54,300 Sometimes it starts with just a loud voice, 364 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:56,100 then it gets to some slapping, 365 00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,266 then it gets to some brutalizing, 366 00:18:57,367 --> 00:18:58,600 and then it's too late. 367 00:19:01,867 --> 00:19:03,800 You know, Hollywood is smoke and mirrors, 368 00:19:03,867 --> 00:19:05,900 and Russell Neal, 369 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,400 as it turned out, is smoke and mirrors. 370 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,000 So Catherine and Russell dated for about five years 371 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,600 on and off. 372 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:28,200 They broke up about three times in the five years. 373 00:19:28,266 --> 00:19:34,400 They decided to finally separate back in 2013. 374 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,367 I think that Russell was manipulating 375 00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:43,367 and lying to Catherine when they first met. 376 00:19:43,467 --> 00:19:44,486 I think that he was trying to pose as someone 377 00:19:44,486 --> 00:19:47,300 I think that he was trying to pose as someone 378 00:19:47,367 --> 00:19:51,266 that he wasn't just to kind of reel her in. 379 00:19:52,467 --> 00:19:55,667 And Catherine eventually caught on and was just like, 380 00:19:55,767 --> 00:19:58,700 I don't want to be a part of your fall. 381 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:02,867 I want to rise up, and I'm not 382 00:20:02,967 --> 00:20:05,467 gonna let you bring me down with you. 383 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:14,486 The case definitely affected me. 384 00:20:14,486 --> 00:20:16,567 The case definitely affected me. 385 00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:18,367 It was very unique. 386 00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:21,500 Russell Neal is somewhat famous, 387 00:20:21,567 --> 00:20:23,867 but that was way back in the early '90s. 388 00:20:23,967 --> 00:20:27,467 They kind of fell off, and he really didn't have much success 389 00:20:27,467 --> 00:20:29,100 after that, and fast forward 390 00:20:29,166 --> 00:20:32,166 about 23 years, and at that point, 391 00:20:32,266 --> 00:20:34,100 he was about 40 years old. 392 00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:37,000 Their relationship was falling apart. 393 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,367 She had moved on and was living 394 00:20:41,367 --> 00:20:43,367 the next stage of her life. 395 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,066 Was kind of a shooting star, and she was 396 00:20:48,066 --> 00:20:51,967 kind of on to new and bigger and better things. 397 00:20:51,967 --> 00:20:55,066 GLENDA: 2013 was a big year, because that's the year 398 00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:57,567 that she finally decided to say, "Hey, 399 00:20:57,567 --> 00:21:00,667 "it's over between me and you, and I am going 400 00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:02,567 to do my own thing." 401 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,467 SARA: Catherine really focused on her career and motherhood, 402 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:10,266 and that infectious drive had 403 00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:13,567 propelled her into continuing her modeling career, 404 00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:14,486 fitness training, bodybuilding, you know, she won 405 00:21:14,486 --> 00:21:16,600 fitness training, bodybuilding, you know, she won 406 00:21:16,667 --> 00:21:20,367 a couple of championships, and she was training to be a boxer. 407 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,066 SHAUNTAÉ: Her goal was to be a star. 408 00:21:24,066 --> 00:21:27,800 That's what she wanted and followed that, you know? 409 00:21:27,867 --> 00:21:30,166 [camera shutter clicking] 410 00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:32,100 Her star was getting brighter. 411 00:21:37,266 --> 00:21:41,266 So their custody thing is, she had the boys 100 percent of 412 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:43,200 the time -- he would just come over 413 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:44,486 and watch the boys as a babysitter 414 00:21:44,486 --> 00:21:45,567 and watch the boys as a babysitter 415 00:21:45,567 --> 00:21:47,867 that got paid whenever she needed 416 00:21:47,967 --> 00:21:49,800 to spend extra hours at the gym. 417 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:58,367 I was really upset -- I could not even imagine, 418 00:21:58,467 --> 00:22:03,667 like, if my husband would say that I need to pay him to watch 419 00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:07,367 our own kids, he probably wouldn't be a husband anymore. 420 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,486 So they lived in a condo on the west side of town 421 00:22:14,486 --> 00:22:15,400 So they lived in a condo on the west side of town 422 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,266 in Houston with their two boys. 423 00:22:17,367 --> 00:22:20,500 But ultimately, I think that Russell was on his way out 424 00:22:20,567 --> 00:22:22,667 or Catherine was going to be leaving 425 00:22:22,667 --> 00:22:24,667 with the children, because he was spending time 426 00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:27,467 away from that residence, as well. 427 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,300 GLENDA: I saw Catherine on June the 30th. 428 00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:36,567 She had came to Killeen. 429 00:22:36,667 --> 00:22:39,967 She was going to one of the clubs to promote 430 00:22:39,967 --> 00:22:42,166 her modeling shoot, 431 00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:44,486 and so they were both at my mom's house, 432 00:22:44,486 --> 00:22:45,400 and so they were both at my mom's house, 433 00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:49,567 and she was goofing around and playing. 434 00:22:49,567 --> 00:22:53,100 It was very relieving to see Catherine so happy. 435 00:22:53,166 --> 00:22:54,767 She had her spunk back. 436 00:22:54,867 --> 00:22:58,600 She had, you know, her little spark that she's always had, 437 00:22:58,667 --> 00:23:02,066 and it was nice to see her so happy. 438 00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:05,266 It was kind of like the sister that I always looked 439 00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:10,300 up to, that I always needed to be like her, was back, 440 00:23:10,367 --> 00:23:13,500 and then Catherine had to drive down to Houston. 441 00:23:23,367 --> 00:23:27,900 Let me just, like, paint the picture to what our booking 442 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,100 area looks like -- when you first walk into it, 443 00:23:30,166 --> 00:23:33,667 it looks like when you walk into a bank. 444 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,400 It's set up like tellers. 445 00:23:39,467 --> 00:23:41,600 So I just called next to window three, 446 00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:44,000 and this gentleman stepped up to my window. 447 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,266 I asked him what he needed, and he just said, 448 00:23:52,367 --> 00:23:55,967 "I got into a fight last night with my wife. 449 00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:57,500 "She is now deceased. 450 00:23:58,567 --> 00:24:00,767 I'm here to turn myself in." 451 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,166 So in the 15 years at that time that I had been 452 00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:13,200 doing this, 453 00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:15,600 it threw me for a loop for a little bit. 454 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,667 It's just not part of the norm. 455 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:27,767 And it's at that point that I noticed he also smelled 456 00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:28,867 really clean, 457 00:24:28,867 --> 00:24:31,600 which is not the norm for most of the people. 458 00:24:31,667 --> 00:24:35,266 Like, you could tell he smelled of...I wanna say, 459 00:24:35,367 --> 00:24:36,319 like, aftershave. 460 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:36,767 like, aftershave. 461 00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:40,066 So he was dressed really nice, like everything 462 00:24:40,066 --> 00:24:42,000 was coordinated. 463 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,500 And so I just automatically asked him 464 00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:46,900 for his name and date of birth. 465 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 He gave me Russell Neal. 466 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:53,266 So I asked him again, "Sir, what did you need?" 467 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:56,467 And he said, "I'm here to turn myself in. 468 00:24:56,467 --> 00:24:58,900 "I got into a fight last night with my wife. 469 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,066 She's now deceased." 470 00:25:03,467 --> 00:25:05,500 And so I called the city of Houston and was like, 471 00:25:05,567 --> 00:25:06,319 "Hey, look, I believe there's gonna be 472 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:07,166 "Hey, look, I believe there's gonna be 473 00:25:07,266 --> 00:25:08,467 "a body at this residence. 474 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,000 "Can you just send officers out to confirm there's a body 475 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,000 so we know that this is a legit thing." 476 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,500 What's going on? Why are you here? 477 00:25:16,567 --> 00:25:19,867 Well, uh, my wife and I got into an altercation. 478 00:25:19,867 --> 00:25:21,000 [indistinct] 479 00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:22,266 And she's deceased. 480 00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:24,867 I can give you the address. 481 00:25:26,467 --> 00:25:29,500 And so police were operating and conducting their 482 00:25:29,567 --> 00:25:35,200 investigation solely on that very simple few sentences, 483 00:25:35,266 --> 00:25:36,319 but that did lead them to the apartment. 484 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,600 but that did lead them to the apartment. 485 00:25:40,667 --> 00:25:43,166 That did lead them to discover her body. 486 00:25:45,367 --> 00:25:47,000 He covered her with a sheet. 487 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,767 She had multiple blunt force injuries to 488 00:25:52,767 --> 00:25:56,767 the back of her head and numerous stab wounds 489 00:25:56,767 --> 00:25:59,667 centered on her back shoulder area, 490 00:26:01,567 --> 00:26:04,300 along with a number of superficial injuries. 491 00:26:04,367 --> 00:26:06,319 She had some defensive injuries on her forearms. 492 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:07,300 She had some defensive injuries on her forearms. 493 00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:10,200 And it was very gory. 494 00:26:10,266 --> 00:26:12,867 I've seen a lot of murder crime scenes, 495 00:26:12,867 --> 00:26:15,000 and there was a lot of blood in this one. 496 00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:18,367 The brutality and the gruesomeness of 497 00:26:18,367 --> 00:26:21,567 this murder scene definitely stand out. 498 00:26:25,367 --> 00:26:30,166 He left both murder weapons at the scene in the open. 499 00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:34,000 One of the murder weapons was a tire jack, 500 00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:36,319 duct tape both around a handle on the bottom part of 501 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:38,567 duct tape both around a handle on the bottom part of 502 00:26:38,667 --> 00:26:40,567 the tire jack, as well as the end of it, 503 00:26:40,567 --> 00:26:43,100 as well as a knife. 504 00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:47,467 And the fact that Russell used two murder weapons told me that 505 00:26:47,567 --> 00:26:48,767 this was calculated, 506 00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:50,767 especially when you look at the tire jack, 507 00:26:50,767 --> 00:26:54,066 which was duct taped around the handle. 508 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,100 [handcuffs clicking] 509 00:26:58,166 --> 00:27:01,000 STEPHANIE: After we learned that, we handcuffed him, 510 00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,900 read him his rights, and then escorted him back to 511 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,100 the sergeant's office. 512 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:06,319 My niece's grandmother called me on my cellphone, 513 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:10,567 My niece's grandmother called me on my cellphone, 514 00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:11,867 and she's like, 515 00:27:11,967 --> 00:27:14,400 "It's saying on the news that she's been murdered." 516 00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:20,900 And then I still remember my heart just, like, pounding. 517 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Like, I couldn't breathe. 518 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,900 And I was just like -- like, no. 519 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Like, I just spoke to her -- like, that's not possible. 520 00:27:31,767 --> 00:27:33,767 And she's like... 521 00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:36,319 "It's Catherine," and I'm just like, "Yes, it's Catherine." 522 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,300 "It's Catherine," and I'm just like, "Yes, it's Catherine." 523 00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:42,867 And she was one of the sweetest souls 524 00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:44,000 that used to say, 525 00:27:44,066 --> 00:27:46,667 you know, like, why not me? Like... 526 00:27:46,767 --> 00:27:49,367 if I could switch roles with her, I would have... 527 00:27:50,467 --> 00:27:51,467 in a heartbeat. 528 00:28:00,867 --> 00:28:03,467 I just felt like she was an amazing mom 529 00:28:03,467 --> 00:28:06,319 and just the soul that has left us 530 00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:06,700 and just the soul that has left us 531 00:28:06,767 --> 00:28:09,066 is hard to replace. 532 00:28:09,066 --> 00:28:12,200 So if I could have traded places with her, I would have. 533 00:28:16,767 --> 00:28:19,066 I knew that it was premeditated. 534 00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:20,767 I knew that he planned it perfectly to 535 00:28:20,767 --> 00:28:22,667 make sure that she didn't have a chance. 536 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,367 SHAUNTAÉ: And then on Facebook Messenger, 537 00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:29,000 a mutual friend says, "You ain't hear?" 538 00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,767 I said, "What are you talking about?" 539 00:28:32,867 --> 00:28:35,867 He said, "Diamond dead." 540 00:28:35,867 --> 00:28:36,319 I said, "No, she not. I just messaged her." 541 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,066 I said, "No, she not. I just messaged her." 542 00:28:38,066 --> 00:28:39,500 He said, "It's all over TV." 543 00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:41,367 I said, "You lying." 544 00:28:41,367 --> 00:28:42,867 He said, "It's all over TV." 545 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,500 I broke down. I broke down. 546 00:28:50,567 --> 00:28:52,467 I began to shake. 547 00:28:52,567 --> 00:28:54,667 I began to cry. 548 00:28:54,767 --> 00:28:58,567 You know, I just, I hit the floor, and I just screamed. 549 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:06,319 And all I could do was scream and cry and ask why, like, 550 00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:09,700 And all I could do was scream and cry and ask why, like, 551 00:29:09,767 --> 00:29:11,567 she wasn't ready. 552 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,767 She had so much to go, you know, so much to live for. 553 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,200 It just -- it still hurts. 554 00:29:20,667 --> 00:29:23,667 It's more emotional for me, because 555 00:29:23,767 --> 00:29:26,567 I didn't get a chance to really just thank her for 556 00:29:26,567 --> 00:29:28,100 everything that she did for us, 557 00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:31,100 because she did a lot of stuff that she did not have to do. 558 00:29:31,166 --> 00:29:32,400 She really did. 559 00:29:35,166 --> 00:29:36,319 The person that she was, the goofiness, the spontaneous, 560 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,300 The person that she was, the goofiness, the spontaneous, 561 00:29:39,367 --> 00:29:42,867 the care that she had, the help that she -- 562 00:29:42,967 --> 00:29:45,367 I mean everything about her, anything. 563 00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:46,967 She'd give you her last. 564 00:29:46,967 --> 00:29:50,567 She'd help anybody, a complete stranger, you know. 565 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:54,266 It's -- it's missing the love that she had. 566 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,467 When the sheriff then realizes he's the primary suspect, 567 00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,166 Russell, he invokes his Fifth Amendment, 568 00:30:04,166 --> 00:30:05,967 he says he's not gonna answer any questions 569 00:30:05,967 --> 00:30:06,319 and that he wants a lawyer. 570 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:07,166 and that he wants a lawyer. 571 00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:10,367 And that's pretty much the fullness of my statement 572 00:30:10,367 --> 00:30:12,800 until I'm able to speak with an attorney. 573 00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:16,166 By virtue of just making that very short statement, 574 00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:18,867 he placed himself at the crime scene. 575 00:30:18,967 --> 00:30:20,767 We just don't know at what time. 576 00:30:25,367 --> 00:30:29,000 GILBERT: So... all the evidence suggests 577 00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:31,900 that she died in the early morning 578 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,266 hours of July 1, 2014, 579 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,319 but he didn't turn himself in until 580 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:36,867 but he didn't turn himself in until 581 00:30:36,967 --> 00:30:39,767 the afternoon of July 2nd, 582 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,000 so by my calculations, she was dead in 583 00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:47,567 the apartment for almost a day and a half. 584 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,100 When Catherine arrived home at around 5 o'clock in the morning, 585 00:30:54,166 --> 00:30:57,967 the kids were there, and they were in their room. 586 00:30:57,967 --> 00:31:01,200 They did wake up when they heard 587 00:31:01,266 --> 00:31:03,767 what they thought was Russell 588 00:31:03,767 --> 00:31:06,300 spanking Catherine and yelling at her. 589 00:31:06,367 --> 00:31:08,700 [distant yelling] 590 00:31:08,767 --> 00:31:12,300 At around 5:45, neighbors said they heard loud bangs, 591 00:31:12,367 --> 00:31:14,567 like somebody was nailing something to the wall. 592 00:31:16,767 --> 00:31:18,800 The kids were then shuffled through 593 00:31:18,867 --> 00:31:20,500 the living room in the morning, 594 00:31:24,567 --> 00:31:27,467 and Catherine was in very good shape when this happened. 595 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,500 But if you're being attacked by a grown man 596 00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:35,967 who has a tire jack in his hand 597 00:31:36,967 --> 00:31:39,767 and also possibly a knife at the same time, 598 00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:45,100 she wasn't able to fend for herself long enough, 599 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000 and the fact that two separate weapons 600 00:31:49,066 --> 00:31:52,100 were used, presumably the tire jack 601 00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:55,266 was used to strike her in the back of the head, 602 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,066 and then, at some point, he had the wherewithal to 603 00:32:00,066 --> 00:32:02,000 switch weapons to the knife 604 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,967 and then begin to stab her in the back. 605 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:12,500 I think it shows that Russell, once he got started, 606 00:32:12,567 --> 00:32:16,166 could not control himself, and the rage and the anger 607 00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:18,967 that he was feeling when he was doing this, 608 00:32:18,967 --> 00:32:22,100 he could not get it under control. 609 00:32:22,166 --> 00:32:25,100 I've already killed her, but instead, he kept going 610 00:32:25,166 --> 00:32:26,266 and going and going. 611 00:32:26,266 --> 00:32:28,767 Nothing was wiped up. 612 00:32:28,867 --> 00:32:32,567 The murder scene was left practically intact. 613 00:32:37,166 --> 00:32:38,467 There was DNA testing, 614 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,667 and his DNA came back on a lot of things in the apartment. 615 00:32:44,767 --> 00:32:47,367 There was never a question that somebody else 616 00:32:47,367 --> 00:32:49,367 could have broken in and done this. 617 00:32:49,367 --> 00:32:52,266 And he himself said he got into 618 00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:55,200 an altercation with his wife, and she's now deceased. 619 00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:01,600 GLENDA: And so we need to find the boys 620 00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:03,367 and get the boys -- are the boys okay? 621 00:33:03,367 --> 00:33:04,467 Like, were they hurt? 622 00:33:04,567 --> 00:33:06,319 Because I know that if something happened 623 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:07,567 Because I know that if something happened 624 00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:08,867 to Catherine, she would 625 00:33:08,867 --> 00:33:12,166 have tried her hardest to protect her boys and make sure 626 00:33:12,266 --> 00:33:13,467 that they were okay. 627 00:33:14,667 --> 00:33:18,467 So as soon as the Houston Police Department learned about 628 00:33:18,567 --> 00:33:20,800 the murder and sent somebody out, 629 00:33:20,867 --> 00:33:22,667 it's determined that afterwards, 630 00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:24,667 the kids were then shuffled through 631 00:33:24,767 --> 00:33:26,400 the living room in the morning. 632 00:33:28,367 --> 00:33:30,800 Meanwhile, Catherine's body was in 633 00:33:30,867 --> 00:33:33,166 the living room under a blanket, 634 00:33:33,266 --> 00:33:35,667 and he had the lights off as he shuffled them past. 635 00:33:36,667 --> 00:33:39,000 So Russell took them to school. 636 00:33:42,767 --> 00:33:44,567 That's kind of the question is, 637 00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:46,867 how much did the boys know happened? 638 00:33:46,867 --> 00:33:51,367 They knew that they heard something in the morning, 639 00:33:51,367 --> 00:33:55,066 and when Russell came to the room right after it happened, 640 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:59,100 the eldest son noticed what he thought was ketchup on 641 00:33:59,166 --> 00:34:00,300 Russell's shoulder. 642 00:34:00,367 --> 00:34:04,467 And Russell told them, "Don't say anything." 643 00:34:07,767 --> 00:34:12,100 It was really hard for us to know that both of the boys were 644 00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:13,400 in the apartment 645 00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:17,000 when the incident happened, because they were traumatized 646 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,066 from having to hear their mom scream for help. 647 00:34:22,767 --> 00:34:26,467 The "who done it" was never really an issue. 648 00:34:26,467 --> 00:34:27,567 The only two adults in 649 00:34:27,567 --> 00:34:30,500 that apartment were Catherine and Russell. 650 00:34:30,567 --> 00:34:35,367 So the biggest challenges that investigators had was 651 00:34:35,467 --> 00:34:36,319 piecing together the motive. 652 00:34:36,319 --> 00:34:37,266 piecing together the motive. 653 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,800 SARA: But here, we just don't know. 654 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,300 We just don't know what happened that day 655 00:34:51,367 --> 00:34:54,667 that led Russell to brutally kill Catherine. 656 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:08,867 The idea that you could kill your wife, 657 00:35:08,967 --> 00:35:11,367 walk into the police department or the sheriff's 658 00:35:11,467 --> 00:35:16,667 station, and tell the half truth, which is a big lie. 659 00:35:16,667 --> 00:35:21,000 Not that she's dead, but that she is injured and needs help. 660 00:35:21,066 --> 00:35:23,100 Something doesn't add up with him. 661 00:35:25,367 --> 00:35:29,200 There was such a stark contrast with 662 00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:29,972 not only what he was saying, 663 00:35:29,972 --> 00:35:31,266 not only what he was saying, 664 00:35:31,367 --> 00:35:34,467 but how he looked and how he acted 665 00:35:34,467 --> 00:35:36,467 with what he had just done. 666 00:35:39,767 --> 00:35:43,600 I think his plan was very orchestrated. 667 00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:47,367 He knew he was going to be turning himself in. 668 00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:51,367 He knew that his image was going to be put out there into 669 00:35:51,467 --> 00:35:53,800 the media, and I think he realized, 670 00:35:53,867 --> 00:35:56,567 like, I need to get myself into the image 671 00:35:56,667 --> 00:35:58,266 that I see in myself. 672 00:35:59,266 --> 00:35:59,972 And so he prepared himself. 673 00:35:59,972 --> 00:36:01,367 And so he prepared himself. 674 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:06,400 He used a straight edge razor to shave his head. 675 00:36:06,467 --> 00:36:08,967 He color coordinated his outfit 676 00:36:08,967 --> 00:36:11,500 with black from head to toe, 677 00:36:11,567 --> 00:36:15,667 and black shoes with neon yellow accents, 678 00:36:15,667 --> 00:36:18,400 and a very, I think, purposeful 679 00:36:18,467 --> 00:36:21,700 message on his shirt -- it read "King." 680 00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:29,972 I think he turned himself in for the fame. 681 00:36:29,972 --> 00:36:30,667 I think he turned himself in for the fame. 682 00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:32,367 He knew it was going to be on 683 00:36:32,467 --> 00:36:36,266 the news, and he knew it was gonna blow up. 684 00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,467 GILBERT: Russell appeared to be very fixated 685 00:36:38,567 --> 00:36:41,367 on his image -- inside their apartment, 686 00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:45,166 he had this little work station, and he had a pyramid of 687 00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:47,567 quotes from various people, 688 00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:51,700 like T.D. Jakes, Shaka Zulu. 689 00:36:51,767 --> 00:36:54,867 He had this manifesto of what he wanted to become, 690 00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:58,200 scribblings in a notebook, really. 691 00:36:58,266 --> 00:36:59,972 In the next five years, he was going to become a billionaire. 692 00:36:59,972 --> 00:37:02,066 In the next five years, he was going to become a billionaire. 693 00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:05,200 He was gonna go to business school in New York, and he was 694 00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:07,300 gonna take his Series 7 tests, 695 00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:09,266 and he was gonna make all this money. 696 00:37:10,867 --> 00:37:14,767 He had grand ideas of what he thought he could become, 697 00:37:14,767 --> 00:37:17,967 even though there was no basis to support these pipe dreams. 698 00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:22,000 SARA: There's really something deeply disturbing 699 00:37:22,066 --> 00:37:24,367 about Russell Neal. 700 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,567 It goes to that example of how perfect his outside is 701 00:37:29,567 --> 00:37:29,972 and how absolutely broken his inside is. 702 00:37:29,972 --> 00:37:32,667 and how absolutely broken his inside is. 703 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,266 GILBERT: I think after they started to separate, 704 00:37:36,266 --> 00:37:38,767 Catherine was living her best life. 705 00:37:38,767 --> 00:37:43,100 She was experiencing more and more success, having more luck 706 00:37:43,166 --> 00:37:46,667 with fitness, modeling, getting more opportunities. 707 00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:50,767 So as their paths in life continued to separate, 708 00:37:50,867 --> 00:37:53,100 I think Russell saw the writing on the wall. 709 00:37:53,166 --> 00:37:57,066 She was dating this other guy, and I think Russell's life was 710 00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:59,166 slipping away before his eyes. 711 00:37:59,266 --> 00:37:59,972 And there's evidence he found out about 712 00:37:59,972 --> 00:38:01,767 And there's evidence he found out about 713 00:38:01,767 --> 00:38:05,000 this new relationship that Catherine was having. 714 00:38:05,066 --> 00:38:09,567 There were texts that she received from this other guy. 715 00:38:09,567 --> 00:38:12,667 Presumably, Russell discovered these text messages 716 00:38:12,767 --> 00:38:16,667 and was waiting for her to come back, 717 00:38:16,767 --> 00:38:21,400 and Russell confronted her as to what exactly happened. 718 00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:23,400 And I think he took this anger that was 719 00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:26,166 building in him for months out on her that night. 720 00:38:34,066 --> 00:38:37,667 SARA: We have two brothers, Russell and Ronald, 721 00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:41,367 and we have two murders, 722 00:38:41,467 --> 00:38:44,000 and they are eerily similar. 723 00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,200 Both of them commit these murders 724 00:38:48,266 --> 00:38:50,100 in the presence of their children. 725 00:38:51,767 --> 00:38:55,467 They both killed the mother of their children. 726 00:38:57,066 --> 00:38:59,100 They were completely heartless in 727 00:38:59,166 --> 00:38:59,972 the way that they acted afterwards. 728 00:38:59,972 --> 00:39:01,000 the way that they acted afterwards. 729 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:06,500 Is it a genetic issue? Is it a nurture issue? 730 00:39:06,567 --> 00:39:08,166 I don't -- I'm not sure. 731 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:15,066 But it's just a very, very sad coincidence. 732 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:23,700 Even though the evidence is overwhelming that 733 00:39:23,767 --> 00:39:26,266 they're guilty, they want to go to trial. 734 00:39:27,266 --> 00:39:29,000 A lot of times, people go to trial, 735 00:39:29,066 --> 00:39:29,972 because there's always a chance 736 00:39:29,972 --> 00:39:31,600 because there's always a chance 737 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:35,266 that the jury will find them not guilty or it's a hung jury. 738 00:39:35,266 --> 00:39:37,800 Originally, he did want to go to trial. 739 00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:40,300 But that was a bad gamble. 740 00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:46,166 And it wasn't until his case was first on the docket, 741 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:47,700 set for trial, that I think 742 00:39:47,767 --> 00:39:50,100 the reality of a plea deal was actually going 743 00:39:50,166 --> 00:39:51,767 to happen. 744 00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:53,066 At the last minute, 745 00:39:53,066 --> 00:39:56,000 we were finally able to reach a deal. 746 00:39:57,467 --> 00:39:59,972 Russell pled guilty to 40 years in prison, 747 00:39:59,972 --> 00:40:00,367 Russell pled guilty to 40 years in prison, 748 00:40:00,467 --> 00:40:02,266 and he waived his right to appeal. 749 00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:06,066 And Catherine Martinez's family all agreed that it was 750 00:40:06,066 --> 00:40:09,000 in the best interest of the case and the children 751 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:12,200 that this is the way the case would resolve itself. 752 00:40:13,467 --> 00:40:15,367 SHAUNTAÉ: To me, it's a slap on the wrist. 753 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,467 You know, I feel like you really need to pay. 754 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,700 I'm happy that he's where he's at. 755 00:40:26,767 --> 00:40:28,367 That is a sense of justice. 756 00:40:28,367 --> 00:40:29,972 But as far as his sentencing, no, I don't feel -- 757 00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:32,967 But as far as his sentencing, no, I don't feel -- 758 00:40:32,967 --> 00:40:35,266 mnh-mnh, I feel like he should have got life. 759 00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:37,600 I feel like he should be in 760 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:39,800 solitary confinement the rest of his life. 761 00:40:41,867 --> 00:40:44,000 GLENDA: We feel like he should have gotten longer. 762 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,367 I really wish that... 763 00:40:48,567 --> 00:40:50,300 he... 764 00:40:50,367 --> 00:40:53,467 possibly just could have disappeared. 765 00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:55,767 I wish he would have just took his own life. 766 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,972 I honestly -- I wish it would have been a murder-suicide. 767 00:40:59,972 --> 00:41:00,166 I honestly -- I wish it would have been a murder-suicide. 768 00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,800 SHAUNTAÉ: If I could say anything to Catherine... 769 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,000 I love you, girl. 770 00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,066 And I thank you 771 00:41:14,367 --> 00:41:16,166 for everything. 772 00:41:18,667 --> 00:41:20,367 I appreciate you. 773 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,467 Why didn't you call me? 774 00:41:32,567 --> 00:41:34,066 Your boys are beautiful. 775 00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:37,367 They're smart. 776 00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:41,367 They're strong. 777 00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:46,467 I'll always love her. 778 00:41:46,567 --> 00:41:49,100 [inhales, exhales heavily] 779 00:41:52,667 --> 00:41:54,266 I'll always think of her. 780 00:42:00,667 --> 00:42:01,767 I just miss her. 781 00:42:03,367 --> 00:42:04,367 I just miss her. 61573

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