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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,947 --> 00:00:31,665 Rosebud... 2 00:00:38,914 --> 00:00:41,588 A magician is just an actor. 3 00:00:43,252 --> 00:00:46,256 Just an actor playing the part of a magician. 4 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:33,010 You know, one sunny morning in Kenosha, 5 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,595 a chubby little one, you know. 6 00:01:41,518 --> 00:01:44,112 Welles' family background was complex. 7 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:48,067 His parents broke up when he was about seven, 8 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:52,121 and his mother and he moved to Chicago. 9 00:01:53,655 --> 00:01:58,661 She was something of a social reformer 10 00:01:58,744 --> 00:02:01,418 and a bit of a cultural figure, too. 11 00:02:02,497 --> 00:02:04,920 She used to take a long piece of cord, 12 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,468 and she was such a dignified lady 13 00:02:06,543 --> 00:02:08,386 that if she would come to the street comer 14 00:02:08,462 --> 00:02:10,339 and say to a man, "Will you hold this, please?" 15 00:02:10,422 --> 00:02:13,096 And then go around to the other side of the street corner 16 00:02:13,175 --> 00:02:15,052 and find somebody and say, "Would you hold this, please?" 17 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:17,263 And then leave the two men holding the cord. 18 00:02:17,346 --> 00:02:20,065 So that was her idea of a fun thing to do. 19 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:24,441 Very tall and handsome, and she was a great beauty. 20 00:02:24,519 --> 00:02:28,240 My father lived in Peking for quite a long time, 21 00:02:28,315 --> 00:02:29,737 and I spent five or six years there, 22 00:02:29,816 --> 00:02:31,568 or the greater part of those years. 23 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:33,404 His father was a businessman 24 00:02:33,487 --> 00:02:37,037 who then went on to become an alcoholic, 25 00:02:37,115 --> 00:02:38,788 a ambler, and a womanizer. 26 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:40,335 He was just a playboy. - 27 00:02:40,410 --> 00:02:42,583 He inherited some money, and he spent it. 28 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:45,507 And in the meantime, his mother had taken up 29 00:02:45,582 --> 00:02:49,803 with this Hungarian doctor, Maurice Bernstein, 30 00:02:49,878 --> 00:02:52,381 a sort of- very slippery character. 31 00:02:52,464 --> 00:02:55,343 Controlling, wheedling, 32 00:02:55,425 --> 00:02:58,975 emotionally blackmailing kind of a person. 33 00:03:00,806 --> 00:03:03,229 - Mr. Bernstein? - Yes, Mr. Kane. 34 00:03:03,308 --> 00:03:06,403 - Mr. Carter, this is Mr. Bernstein. - How do you do? 35 00:03:06,478 --> 00:03:07,980 Mr. Bernstein is my general manager, Mr. Carter. 36 00:03:08,063 --> 00:03:09,531 When his mother died, 37 00:03:09,606 --> 00:03:12,485 he was forced to make him his legal guardian. 38 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:18,540 He was, from the earliest age, formed on, 39 00:03:18,615 --> 00:03:22,540 identified as being remarkable and charming. 40 00:03:22,619 --> 00:03:25,919 His mother's position was that a child had 41 00:03:25,997 --> 00:03:27,795 to justify themselves in the room. 42 00:03:27,874 --> 00:03:29,626 You had to say something interesting, 43 00:03:29,710 --> 00:03:31,303 you had to do something extraordinary, 44 00:03:31,378 --> 00:03:33,847 otherwise, you were exiled to the nursery. 45 00:03:33,922 --> 00:03:37,051 Welles was not about to spend any time in the nursery. 46 00:03:37,134 --> 00:03:39,557 I played the violin, and I played the piano, 47 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:43,015 and there's nothing more hateful on earth. 48 00:03:43,098 --> 00:03:44,691 I was one of those. 49 00:03:44,766 --> 00:03:46,188 And my mother, 50 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:47,941 who was a professional musician, 51 00:03:48,019 --> 00:03:50,898 died when I was nine- 52 00:03:50,981 --> 00:03:53,029 And I stopped playing immediately. 53 00:03:53,108 --> 00:03:55,076 As a kid, I was moved around everywhere. 54 00:03:55,152 --> 00:03:56,324 I have lots of homes, 55 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:59,407 but I would like to have the one. 56 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,660 See, I suppose it's Woodstock, Illinois, 57 00:04:03,827 --> 00:04:05,795 if it's anywhere. 58 00:04:05,871 --> 00:04:07,589 I went to school there for four years, 59 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:11,009 and if I try to think of the... 60 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:12,506 home, it's that. 61 00:04:19,050 --> 00:04:20,723 I think the most exciting thing 62 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:22,804 that ever happened in Skipper's life 63 00:04:23,138 --> 00:04:25,516 was the arrival of Orson Welles at his school 64 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:28,478 because he had never seen such a prodigy. 65 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,904 The kids, of course, hated him. 66 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:33,073 I must have been intolerable as a child. 67 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:34,991 He didn't want to do anything. 68 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:38,195 He- he couldn't play athletics, 69 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:39,495 he just was not athletic. 70 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:42,745 He was overweight, even as a kid. 71 00:04:42,824 --> 00:04:45,202 Skipper said, "Okay, what we'll do 72 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:46,628 "is have him do what he wants, 73 00:04:46,703 --> 00:04:48,421 Was just the Theatre. 74 00:04:48,497 --> 00:04:50,841 I played Mary, the mother of Jesus, 75 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:53,506 at the age of 13. 76 00:04:53,585 --> 00:04:56,088 Yes. Very good in drag. 77 00:04:59,090 --> 00:05:02,094 He could talk about China, 78 00:05:02,177 --> 00:05:03,895 I think he'd been to China. 79 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:07,687 He could talk about Shakespeare, 80 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:10,778 which- my father's favorite author. 81 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:13,526 And he could talk about the Bible. 82 00:05:13,605 --> 00:05:15,949 At 11, he could do all this. 83 00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:17,241 It's like... 84 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:21,322 Mozart playing music at four years old, 85 00:05:21,404 --> 00:05:23,657 you can't believe it happens, 86 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:25,083 but it does happen. 87 00:05:26,868 --> 00:05:30,168 But he was without a doubt 88 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:32,420 the only person I know who had 89 00:05:32,499 --> 00:05:35,673 absolutely no empathetic skills. 90 00:05:35,752 --> 00:05:38,847 I told him just what I thought about him. 91 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:41,266 He looked at me. 92 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:43,014 "Joanne... 93 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:47,473 everybody has their little idiosyncrasies. " 94 00:05:47,556 --> 00:05:50,651 This was a very unusual boy. 95 00:06:01,903 --> 00:06:05,953 This is truly where Orson started his theatrical career. 96 00:06:06,032 --> 00:06:07,784 He was putting on "Twelfth Night," he was putting on 97 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:09,711 a variety of Shakespeare plays 98 00:06:09,786 --> 00:06:13,006 when he was a child, and he was Orson. 99 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:14,799 There's a warmth that I think 100 00:06:14,875 --> 00:06:17,094 much of the world never experienced. 101 00:06:17,168 --> 00:06:19,796 So it is a pleasure that we here in the city of Woodstock 102 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,010 dedicate this stage to an individual 103 00:06:24,092 --> 00:06:27,847 who got it all started. 104 00:06:27,929 --> 00:06:30,273 Even though he was a humble person. 105 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:35,604 "He made his American debut 106 00:06:35,687 --> 00:06:37,314 "as a professional theater director 107 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:41,118 "upon this stage, now named in his honor. -... 108 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:42,739 the Orson Welles Stage. " 109 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:48,700 I feel his hand on my shoulder. 110 00:06:48,783 --> 00:06:51,582 "Rosebud!" 111 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:06,722 He did a sort of deal with Dr. Bernstein 112 00:07:06,801 --> 00:07:09,270 that he would go to university, 113 00:07:09,346 --> 00:07:11,019 but that they would let him go to Ireland 114 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:13,099 on a painting holiday. 115 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:16,528 That was what he pretended he wanted. 116 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:17,855 I'd come to Ireland 117 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:19,611 and found myself in Dublin 118 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:21,491 without what are technically referred to 119 00:07:21,566 --> 00:07:22,692 as financial resources. 120 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:23,868 Oh, I had a few shillings, 121 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:25,662 but I blew those on a good dinner 122 00:07:25,737 --> 00:07:26,909 and a ticket to the theater. 123 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:28,831 The theater was the Gate- 124 00:07:28,907 --> 00:07:32,002 I was 16 years old, my career, as you might say, 125 00:07:32,077 --> 00:07:33,750 was at the crossroads. 126 00:07:33,828 --> 00:07:36,456 I saw this brilliant, not necessarily an actor, 127 00:07:36,539 --> 00:07:39,258 but a brilliant creature of 16 128 00:07:39,334 --> 00:07:41,007 telling us he was 19 129 00:07:41,127 --> 00:07:43,505 and telling us he'd had lots of experience, 130 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:45,590 which was obvious to us he'd had none at all. 131 00:07:45,674 --> 00:07:47,392 And just as- for the fun of it, 132 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:50,061 I'd like to stay with them and play a few leading roles. 133 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:52,309 They were nice enough to pretend they were fooled, 134 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:54,483 and they were desperate enough for actors. 135 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:57,401 They gave me a star part. I began as a star. 136 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:01,065 And I've been working my way down slowly ever since. 137 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,068 The parts got smaller and smaller and smaller, 138 00:08:05,151 --> 00:08:06,949 and eventually Welles, 139 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:09,907 after about nine months, left and via London, perhaps, 140 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:13,210 we're not sure about that, went back to America. 141 00:08:13,284 --> 00:08:15,286 Went off again on another trip, 142 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:17,543 and than he came back to Chicago 143 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:20,216 and felt very much at a loose end. 144 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:25,255 He came to the theatre festival. 145 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:26,681 That's the last time I knew him, 146 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:28,383 in the theatre festival. 147 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:31,140 One of the students, he had a camera, 148 00:08:31,302 --> 00:08:35,182 and it just fascinated Orson. 149 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:39,065 I'm sure this guy was not very knowledgeable, 150 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:41,146 and Orson would tell him what he'd want. 151 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:42,776 First he'd say, "We don't want it right here, 152 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:45,154 we want you to zoom up," so they'd go this silly way 153 00:08:45,233 --> 00:08:47,156 up and down the stairs. 154 00:08:48,403 --> 00:08:50,997 It's not a film at all. 155 00:08:51,072 --> 00:08:54,576 It was a little joke one Sunday afternoon. 156 00:08:54,659 --> 00:08:57,003 We'd all seen either Bu�uel or Cocteau 157 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:59,001 or somebody's surrealist movie. 158 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,502 We said, "Let's make one. " 159 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:02,505 And from 2:00 in the afternoon till 5:00, 160 00:09:02,584 --> 00:09:05,303 we shot some dumb stuff. 161 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:18,725 My father was married three times. 162 00:09:18,808 --> 00:09:21,311 I was his oldest daughter. 163 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:24,614 He had a daughter by each of his three wives. 164 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:26,236 My half-sister Rebecca, 165 00:09:26,316 --> 00:09:28,364 she was Rita Hayworth's daughter, 166 00:09:28,443 --> 00:09:30,696 and then Beatrice was the youngest daughter 167 00:09:30,779 --> 00:09:35,159 by Paola Mori, who was an Italian countess. 168 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:37,494 He was not really a family man, you know? 169 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:41,002 That's not where his head was. 170 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:43,425 His head was entirely in his work, 171 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,299 and I think having wives and daughters 172 00:09:46,377 --> 00:09:48,846 was actually an encumbrance for him. 173 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:59,516 Welles had picked up a huge amount of knowledge 174 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:00,725 about stagecraft, 175 00:10:00,809 --> 00:10:03,153 added to what he already knew. 176 00:10:03,228 --> 00:10:04,775 He plugged into 177 00:10:04,854 --> 00:10:07,073 the absolute latest developments in the theater, 178 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:08,866 and that meant, above all, expressionism. 179 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:11,195 A very "now" 180 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:14,247 and aggressive form of theater. 181 00:10:14,322 --> 00:10:16,700 He brought, in one word, theatricality. 182 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:21,379 He united the performance, 183 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:24,378 the script, the music, 184 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:27,256 the lights, the sound. 185 00:10:27,335 --> 00:10:29,679 As audience, you had an experience 186 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:32,132 you had with no other director. 187 00:10:32,215 --> 00:10:36,561 I was six months older than Orson, and I met him 188 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:39,731 in his office with John Houseman 189 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:42,150 who was Orson's partner at that time. 190 00:10:42,225 --> 00:10:44,102 John Houseman had great elegance, 191 00:10:44,185 --> 00:10:46,313 spoke beautifully. 192 00:10:46,396 --> 00:10:49,400 He had the one grey flannel suit at the time, 193 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:51,826 because nobody had any money. 194 00:10:51,901 --> 00:10:54,575 The Federal Theatre was a theater 195 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:56,406 created by the government, 196 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:59,288 putting people to work throughout the country. 197 00:10:59,367 --> 00:11:01,369 Orson and Houseman 198 00:11:01,452 --> 00:11:03,250 used it to their advantage 199 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:04,672 to create a theater. 200 00:11:04,747 --> 00:11:05,999 Lay on, Macduff! 201 00:11:06,082 --> 00:11:08,176 The Negro Theatre unit of the Federal Theatre Project 202 00:11:08,251 --> 00:11:09,844 produced a highly successful version 203 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:12,172 of Shakespeares immortal tragedy, "Macbeth. " 204 00:11:12,255 --> 00:11:14,508 Tyrant, show thy face! 205 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:16,013 What is thy name? 206 00:11:21,723 --> 00:11:23,441 My name is Macbeth. 207 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:25,268 There were so many curtain calls, 208 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:28,275 that finally they left this curtain open, 209 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:31,198 and the audience came up on the stage. 210 00:11:31,274 --> 00:11:33,652 That was- that was magical. 211 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:37,948 There was thunderous reaction to it 212 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:40,125 in the audience. Thunderous. 213 00:11:41,284 --> 00:11:42,957 Except for one critic, 214 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:46,006 a very fine critic, Percy Hammond. 215 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,051 There were two voodoo companies, 216 00:11:50,126 --> 00:11:52,504 and they were gain, "Bom, bom, bom, bom, 217 00:11:52,587 --> 00:11:55,215 Percy Hammond, ham, ham... 218 00:11:55,298 --> 00:11:58,051 Percy Hammond died three days later. 219 00:11:58,134 --> 00:12:00,136 No, sorry, that was rude, 220 00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:01,722 I bee your pardon. 221 00:12:01,804 --> 00:12:03,602 We all left the Federal Theatre 222 00:12:03,681 --> 00:12:05,103 at a given point. 223 00:12:05,183 --> 00:12:08,107 Houseman and Welles left because they weren't allowed 224 00:12:08,186 --> 00:12:09,654 to do "Cradle Will Rock. " 225 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:12,699 They formed the Mercury Theater. 226 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:14,902 In a single year, the first in the life 227 00:12:14,984 --> 00:12:16,236 of the Mercury Theater, 228 00:12:16,319 --> 00:12:17,787 Orson Welles has come to be 229 00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:20,661 the most famous name of our time in American drama. 230 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:23,209 Time Magazine declares, "The brightest moon 231 00:12:23,284 --> 00:12:25,127 that has risen over Broadway in years. 232 00:12:25,203 --> 00:12:27,956 He was ruthless, tough, disciplined. 233 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:30,007 We just worked all the time, we worked until 234 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:31,756 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning. 235 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:34,212 I don't think there are rules for any of that. 236 00:12:34,295 --> 00:12:35,342 If that's what he needed, 237 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:37,014 if that's when his inspiration came 238 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:38,091 and he thought he would get 239 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:40,176 the best out of his performers... 240 00:12:40,301 --> 00:12:41,678 You know, the crazy thing is 241 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,763 it might be fine for him, but if they're dragged 242 00:12:43,846 --> 00:12:45,189 out of bed and are exhausted, 243 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:47,768 I'd- they're slaves then, you know what I mean? 244 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:49,773 Robert Benchley writes in "The New Yorker, " 245 00:12:49,852 --> 00:12:51,229 The production at the Mercury is, 246 00:12:51,312 --> 00:12:52,689 I should say, just about perfect. 247 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:55,025 Welles should feel at home in the sky, 248 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:57,907 the only limit which his ambitions recognize. " 249 00:13:04,158 --> 00:13:07,913 The play made absolutely no sense 250 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:09,373 without the Film. 251 00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:11,503 The film could not be shown in the theater, 252 00:13:11,582 --> 00:13:13,835 because there was no real projection booth. 253 00:13:13,918 --> 00:13:17,548 - He is an arrogant- - I am Orson Welles! 254 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:18,927 And every single one of you stands here 255 00:13:19,007 --> 00:13:20,350 as an adjunct to my vision. 256 00:13:20,425 --> 00:13:21,972 You want a career in the Mercury Theater 257 00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:24,145 and in everything else I plan to do? 258 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:26,097 Then remember one simple rule. 259 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:27,978 I own the store. 260 00:13:28,057 --> 00:13:29,809 The Columbia Network is proud to give 261 00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:31,610 Orson Welles the opportunity 262 00:13:31,686 --> 00:13:33,780 to bring to the air those same qualities 263 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,734 of vitality and imagination that have made him 264 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,443 the most talked-of theatrical director 265 00:13:38,526 --> 00:13:40,153 in America today. 266 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:42,614 Good evening, this is Orson Welles, 267 00:13:42,697 --> 00:13:44,165 inviting you to listen now 268 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,084 to one of the strangest stories ever told. 269 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,209 I'd been contributing from my radio salary. 270 00:13:50,288 --> 00:13:52,791 I kept putting $1,000 or so every week, 271 00:13:52,874 --> 00:13:55,297 and we got all our plays on before anybody else 272 00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:57,470 because I was doing radio all day long. 273 00:13:57,545 --> 00:14:00,048 You out there! Look down! 274 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:01,758 Behold! 275 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:05,971 Sound is the... 276 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:10,560 first stirring of the infant. 277 00:14:10,641 --> 00:14:14,236 Sounds have a romance. 278 00:14:14,312 --> 00:14:16,565 Radio was a Medium, 279 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:21,323 which employed that magic. 280 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:23,029 I don't like that literature of yours going out 281 00:14:23,112 --> 00:14:25,114 all over the country with my town's postmark on it. 282 00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:26,996 I don't like it to be a return address 283 00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:29,123 for all that anti-Semitic garbage. 284 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:30,419 He'd never rehearse. 285 00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:31,712 He'd walk in, and they'd say, 286 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:33,131 "Chinaman, 85 years old. " 287 00:14:33,331 --> 00:14:35,629 I'm sorry, sir, but my identity must be... 288 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:37,506 I used to go by ambulance from one- 289 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:39,132 one radio station to another because 290 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:41,465 I discovered there was no law in New York 291 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:43,800 that you had to be sick to travel in an ambulance. 292 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,681 Shadow. Why are you here? 293 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,138 I anticipated your performance, Mr. Kent. 294 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:49,894 How did "The Shadow" originate? 295 00:14:49,972 --> 00:14:51,269 - Was it a... - I don't know. 296 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:53,147 a show before you took over the part? 297 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:55,149 No, no, I was the original Lamont Cranston, 298 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:57,697 as far as I know, but I wouldn't want to... 299 00:14:57,772 --> 00:15:00,241 - But you didn't write that? - Oh, no, my God, 300 00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:02,944 I didn't even know how they came out. 301 00:15:08,699 --> 00:15:09,791 Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt 302 00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:11,039 our program of dance music 303 00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:12,462 to bring you a special bulletin from 304 00:15:12,537 --> 00:15:14,164 the intercontinental Radio News. 305 00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:16,545 At 20 minutes before 8:00 Central time, 306 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:18,672 Professor Ferrell of the Mount Jennings Observatory 307 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:20,628 Chicago, Illinois, reports observing 308 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:23,134 several explosions of incandescent gas 309 00:15:23,214 --> 00:15:26,138 occurring at regular intervals on the planet Mars. 310 00:15:26,217 --> 00:15:28,094 A lot of people just accidentally tuned in 311 00:15:28,177 --> 00:15:29,770 to "The War of the Worlds" while... 312 00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:31,598 the Jack Benny commercial was on or something, 313 00:15:31,681 --> 00:15:33,354 and it freaked them out. 314 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:35,982 It was the turning point in Welles' career. 315 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:37,357 Something smacked the ground, 316 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:39,064 knocked me clear out of my chair. 317 00:15:39,147 --> 00:15:41,400 Well, were you frightened, Mr. Wilmuth? 318 00:15:41,482 --> 00:15:43,280 I reckon I was kind of filed. 319 00:15:43,359 --> 00:15:44,656 Were you aware of the tenor that was going on 320 00:15:44,735 --> 00:15:45,987 - throughout the nation? - Oh, no, oh, no, 321 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:47,697 of course not, we did "Dracula," 322 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:49,999 and it seemed to me, during "Dracula," 323 00:15:50,074 --> 00:15:52,247 I had high hopes that people would react 324 00:15:52,326 --> 00:15:54,545 as they do in a movie of that kind, 325 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,793 and I don't know that they did. 326 00:15:56,873 --> 00:15:58,671 What scared them is very interesting. 327 00:15:58,749 --> 00:16:01,673 It was all done as news reports. 328 00:16:01,752 --> 00:16:03,345 Until that Moment 329 00:16:03,421 --> 00:16:05,970 When the guy is describing this horrible monster- 330 00:16:06,048 --> 00:16:08,016 "It's coming out, oh, my God! Aah!" 331 00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:10,766 Wait a minute, something's happening. 332 00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:13,223 Some shape is rising out of the pit. 333 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,603 Aah! 334 00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:15,934 And it went dead. 335 00:16:22,773 --> 00:16:25,367 The people in the booth were going... 336 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,821 And he just mute it. 337 00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:29,781 Ladies and gentlemen, due to circumstances 338 00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:32,117 beyond our control, we are unable to continue 339 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,952 the broadcast from Grover's Mill. 340 00:16:34,035 --> 00:16:35,878 Citizens of the nation, 341 00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:37,921 I shall not try to conceal 342 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,624 the gravity of the situation 343 00:16:39,707 --> 00:16:41,709 that confronts the country, 344 00:16:41,792 --> 00:16:44,295 nor the concern of your government 345 00:16:44,378 --> 00:16:47,803 in protecting the lives and property of its people. 346 00:16:47,882 --> 00:16:51,352 We will have to sit down and think very carefully 347 00:16:51,427 --> 00:16:53,680 about future broadcasts. 348 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:55,731 Have you made any specific changes of any programs 349 00:16:55,806 --> 00:16:57,058 that were already scheduled, such as next week's, 350 00:16:57,141 --> 00:16:58,438 - for instance? - No. 351 00:16:58,518 --> 00:17:00,395 Police were already in the control room 352 00:17:00,478 --> 00:17:03,357 during the broadcast, not knowing who to arrest. 353 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:08,035 Flash, country overrun by men from Mars! 354 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:09,783 Millions of Martians are landing in our fields! 355 00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:12,035 Strange creatures are dropping from the stratosphere! 356 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:16,210 M- m-m-m-m-men from Mars! 357 00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:19,789 Army bombing plane, V-8-43, off Bayonne, New Jersey, 358 00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:21,419 Don't you think that somebody here would have 359 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:23,172 been able to gauge the reaction 360 00:17:23,251 --> 00:17:25,970 which in fact has occurred throughout the United States? 361 00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:29,265 Well, every radio program tries to be more dramatic than life. 362 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:32,765 Oh, my gosh! 363 00:17:32,843 --> 00:17:34,470 There's another group of spaceships- 364 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:36,648 of the alien ships, they're coming out of the sky! 365 00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:38,975 Despite his bravado all evening, 366 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:41,527 Mr. Manulis panicked and bolted out of the car. 367 00:17:41,602 --> 00:17:43,354 He was so frightened by the reports 368 00:17:43,437 --> 00:17:45,110 of interplanetary invasion 369 00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:47,112 that he ran off, leaving Aunt Bea 370 00:17:47,191 --> 00:17:49,535 to contend with the slimy green monsters 371 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:52,113 he expected to drop from the sky at any moment. 372 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:54,915 When Mr. Manulis called her for a date the next week, 373 00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:56,243 she told my mother to tell him 374 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:57,747 she couldn't see him anymore. 375 00:17:57,827 --> 00:17:59,500 She had married a Martian. 376 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,752 I'm speaking from the roof 377 00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:04,300 of the broadcasting building, New York City- 378 00:18:04,375 --> 00:18:06,503 the bells you hear 379 00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:08,133 are ringing to warn the people 380 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:11,136 to evacuate the city as the Martians approach... 381 00:18:11,215 --> 00:18:14,014 This is Orson Welles, ladies and gentlemen. 382 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,687 Out of character to assure you 383 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:20,016 that "The War of the Worlds has no further significance 384 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:23,023 than as the holiday offering it was intended to be. 385 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:25,855 ...crowds like New Year's Eve in the city. 386 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:29,818 In fact, we weren't as innocent as we meant to be 387 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:31,698 when we did the Martian broadcast. 388 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,030 We were fed up with the way 389 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:37,492 in which everything that came over this new magic box, 390 00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:39,577 the radio, was being swallowed. 391 00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:42,208 People, you know, do suspect 392 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:43,756 what they read in the newspapers 393 00:18:43,831 --> 00:18:45,333 and what people tell them, but when the radio came, 394 00:18:45,416 --> 00:18:47,714 and I suppose now, television, 395 00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:51,639 anything that came through that new machine was believed. 396 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,059 I didn't go to jail... 397 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,852 I went to Hollywood. 398 00:19:00,181 --> 00:19:01,854 He had established a celebrity 399 00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:04,401 that made Hollywood have an appetite for him. 400 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:07,356 He was an extremely successful and ambitious 401 00:19:07,438 --> 00:19:09,941 designer of conceptual theater in New York. 402 00:19:10,024 --> 00:19:11,742 He had been on the cover of Time magazine. 403 00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:14,036 He was an important radio performer, 404 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:17,035 which had made him a worldwide celebrity 405 00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,787 and the studios saw 406 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:20,334 that they could make a buck from this. 407 00:19:26,207 --> 00:19:27,880 RKO wanted him, 408 00:19:28,042 --> 00:19:29,635 and he kept turning it down, 409 00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:32,179 and so every time he turned it down, 410 00:19:32,254 --> 00:19:33,847 the contract would get better, 411 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,470 'cause he'd ask for something 412 00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:36,926 that they just wouldn't give him, 413 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:39,307 and then they would give it to him. 414 00:19:39,387 --> 00:19:41,560 When you honestly didn't want to go, 415 00:19:41,639 --> 00:19:44,233 then- then the deals got better and better. 416 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:45,560 In my case, I didn't want money. 417 00:19:45,643 --> 00:19:46,940 I wanted authority. 418 00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:00,499 There was this guy with a beard 419 00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:02,827 who was going to do it all by himself, you know? 420 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,663 I represented the terrible future 421 00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:08,920 of what was going to happen to that town. 422 00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:10,546 His initial project was 423 00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:12,094 an adaptation of "Heart of Darkness," 424 00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:14,012 which he had done on the radio. 425 00:20:14,088 --> 00:20:17,308 ...a black and incomprehensible frenzy. 426 00:20:17,383 --> 00:20:19,932 We were a bunch of 22-, 23-year-old kids, really, 427 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,728 and we had- 428 00:20:21,804 --> 00:20:23,556 moved in and taken over this studio, 429 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,391 and all these people were looking around, wondering 430 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:27,021 who the hell we were and what did we think 431 00:20:27,101 --> 00:20:29,354 we were gonna be doing? 432 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:31,155 We were not in a very strong 433 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,528 financial situation at the time. 434 00:20:33,607 --> 00:20:36,952 And we thought this acquisition of Mr. Welles 435 00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:39,405 would have done it, but it didn't. 436 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,286 He wanted to shoot the whole movie, 437 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:44,039 more or less, from the perspective 438 00:20:44,118 --> 00:20:45,791 of Marlowe, the central character. 439 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,793 So we didn't get a close-up of Welles 440 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:49,590 until pretty late in the movie. 441 00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:51,884 There were no big movie stars until then, 442 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:53,677 and people wanted to see Welles. 443 00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:56,427 And it was a film about blackness, 444 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,382 and RKO tried to convince him 445 00:20:58,466 --> 00:21:01,640 Just to hire ordinary extras in blackface in the background. 446 00:21:01,719 --> 00:21:04,222 But he wouldn't go with that. 447 00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:07,354 Not knowing anything about it, 448 00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:10,027 there was no basis for fear. 449 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:12,605 In other words, if you're walking along the edge of a cliff, 450 00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:15,066 and you don't know it's the edge of a cliff, 451 00:21:15,149 --> 00:21:17,493 you have perfect confidence. 452 00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,540 The first day that I directed a film 453 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:30,999 was the first day I had ever been on a movie set. 454 00:21:31,081 --> 00:21:32,674 The Union forever! 455 00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:34,718 Be careful, Charles! 456 00:21:34,794 --> 00:21:36,341 Pull your muffler around your neck, Charles. 457 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:38,889 Mrs. Kane, I think we shall have to tell him now. 458 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:40,682 Yes. 459 00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:43,307 I'll sign those papers now, Mr. Thatcher. 460 00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:46,013 You people seem to forget that I'm the boy's father. 461 00:21:46,096 --> 00:21:47,689 It's going to be done exactly the way I've told... 462 00:21:47,765 --> 00:21:49,608 It's about courage and audacity 463 00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:51,685 and "I'm making this my way. " 464 00:21:52,853 --> 00:21:55,652 We're gonna see from one inch to infinity in every shot. 465 00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:57,324 We're gonna see ceilings, and... 466 00:21:57,399 --> 00:22:00,243 we're gonna tell a very convoluted 467 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:04,745 mystery story about a man's life. 468 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,746 It is just... 469 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,800 one of the great movies ever made. 470 00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:15,672 I didn't know what you couldn't do. 471 00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:19,722 I didn't deliberately set out to invent anything. 472 00:22:19,797 --> 00:22:22,050 It just seemed to me, "Why not?" 473 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:26,975 He grasped the medium 474 00:22:27,054 --> 00:22:29,523 with such brilliance, enthusiasm, 475 00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:31,817 he completely mastered it. 476 00:22:31,892 --> 00:22:33,235 It's the first film of somebody 477 00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:35,404 who had never even acted in a movie. 478 00:22:35,479 --> 00:22:39,484 I make no campaign promises! 479 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:42,366 Because, until a few weeks ago, 480 00:22:42,444 --> 00:22:44,617 I had no hope of being elected. 481 00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:48,246 It was intended... 482 00:22:48,325 --> 00:22:50,623 consciously as a sort of social document, 483 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:52,751 as an attack on the acquisitive society, 484 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:53,956 but I didn't think that up 485 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:57,543 and then try to find a story to match the idea. 486 00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:03,891 The picture was about William Randolph Hearst 487 00:23:03,966 --> 00:23:06,515 and two or three other newspaper barons, 488 00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,813 but the picture was also about Orson. 489 00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:11,437 You're a 24-year-old novice director. 490 00:23:11,515 --> 00:23:12,858 This is difficult material, 491 00:23:12,975 --> 00:23:14,272 maybe impossible. 492 00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,479 And old man Hearst is gonna come down on us 493 00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:17,779 with all he's got. 494 00:23:17,855 --> 00:23:19,732 Think of the free publicity. 495 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:22,989 "I'll provide the people of this city 496 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:27,414 "with a daily paper that will tell all the news honestly. 497 00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:28,866 I will also provide-" 498 00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:31,077 That's the second sentence you've started with "I." 499 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,753 People are gonna know who's responsible. 500 00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:36,127 Basic script was 501 00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:38,254 a Herman Mankiewicz script. 502 00:23:38,334 --> 00:23:41,634 A great deal of that picture is, 503 00:23:41,712 --> 00:23:44,682 in every respect, is Green's picture. 504 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:46,259 One day in the office they said, 505 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:49,471 "There's a man called Toland waiting to see you. " 506 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,899 He was, of course, the leading cameraman. 507 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:56,568 He said, "I want to make your picture. " 508 00:23:56,644 --> 00:23:58,863 And I said, "Well, that's wonderful. 509 00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:01,566 Why? I don't know anything about movies. " 510 00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:03,697 He says, "That's why I want to do it. " 511 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:07,780 Well, it was pretty much like my... 512 00:24:07,863 --> 00:24:09,706 My beginnings in the theater. 513 00:24:09,782 --> 00:24:11,534 I had the confidence of ignorance. 514 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:24,304 It contains the very best 515 00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:28,556 of cinematography, editing, lighting, 516 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:31,308 performance, screenwriting. 517 00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:37,352 It's a quarry for filmmakers. 518 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,689 It was obvious when you saw it, it was a great picture, 519 00:24:41,772 --> 00:24:43,194 but that doesn't always mean 520 00:24:43,273 --> 00:24:45,651 that it's gonna do big money at the box office-. 521 00:24:45,734 --> 00:24:48,487 A lot of the theater chains were afraid to book it 522 00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:50,618 because they were afraid 523 00:24:50,698 --> 00:24:52,746 their ads wouldn't run in the Hearst papers. 524 00:24:52,825 --> 00:24:56,671 I sometimes forget that you're all Jews. 525 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:59,464 Apparently, quite a number of people forget, 526 00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:02,043 if they ever knew. 527 00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:09,308 See what you can do about this "Citizen Kane" picture, 528 00:25:09,383 --> 00:25:10,680 will you, Louie? 529 00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:16,019 Orson said he wanted to open it in tents 530 00:25:16,098 --> 00:25:17,145 all across the country. 531 00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,942 He'd say, "This is the picture you... not- 532 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:20,520 they won't let you see. " 533 00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:22,149 But RKO wouldn't hear about it. 534 00:25:22,229 --> 00:25:23,776 In the next 70- something years, 535 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:26,530 it became one of the most admired films ever made. 536 00:25:28,318 --> 00:25:33,119 You can see a change in films after "Kane. " 537 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:35,371 I said, "Don't you think you had a tremendous influence?" 538 00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:37,044 He said not really. He said they didn't- 539 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,746 They really weren't influenced by anything important. 540 00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:41,753 There were just a lot of ceilings and shadows. 541 00:25:41,832 --> 00:25:44,051 Many people can agree, it's just one of the great 542 00:25:44,126 --> 00:25:46,345 American experiences in the cinema. 543 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:48,343 Rosebud. 544 00:25:48,422 --> 00:25:49,969 I'm ashamed of Rosebud. 545 00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:51,221 I think it's the... 546 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,098 A rather tawdry device. 547 00:25:53,177 --> 00:25:55,100 It doesn't stand up very well. 548 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:05,156 Well, I've regretted early successes in many fields, 549 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:07,483 but I don't regret that in "Kane" 550 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:11,787 because it was the only chance I ever had of that kind. 551 00:26:11,862 --> 00:26:14,661 I'm glad I had it at any time in my life. 552 00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:20,587 I was spoiled in a very strange way. 553 00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:22,585 I didn't know what was ahead of me. 554 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:35,678 The magnificence of the Ambersons 555 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:38,480 began in 1873. 556 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:41,104 Their splendor lasted throughout all the years 557 00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:42,901 that saw their midland town 558 00:26:42,976 --> 00:26:46,196 spread and darken into a city. 559 00:26:46,271 --> 00:26:48,490 In that town, in those days, 560 00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:50,442 all the women who wore silk or velvet 561 00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:53,120 knew all the other women who wore silk or velvet, 562 00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:55,197 and everybody knew everybody else's 563 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,499 family horse and carriage. 564 00:26:57,574 --> 00:26:59,793 One of the reasons he liked "Amberson" so much 565 00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:01,541 was 'cause he wasn't in it. 566 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:02,917 Too slow for us nowadays. 567 00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:04,669 Often, he was the- you know, a name 568 00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:06,500 that he used for himself in a movie, 569 00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:08,836 'cause he was a name actor. 570 00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:11,422 As he said to me once, he said, 571 00:27:11,505 --> 00:27:14,429 "I don't enjoy acting as much as I should. " 572 00:27:17,052 --> 00:27:19,805 The real point of "Ambersons," 573 00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:23,062 everything that is any good in it 574 00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,394 is that part of it 575 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:27,275 which was really just a preparation 576 00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:30,233 for the decay of the Ambersons. 577 00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:31,783 Pride of the town. 578 00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:33,702 Hot and cold running water? 579 00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:35,996 Upstairs and down. 580 00:27:36,071 --> 00:27:37,163 I want to look at that 581 00:27:37,239 --> 00:27:39,241 automobile carriage of yours, Gene. 582 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:40,541 Franny, you'll catch cold! 583 00:27:40,617 --> 00:27:41,618 We're gonna ride in that thing tomorrow. 584 00:27:41,702 --> 00:27:42,919 I want to see if it's safe. 585 00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:44,087 - Good night, Isabella- - Good night, Eugene. 586 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:45,665 You be ready at ten minutes after 2:00. 587 00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:47,044 No, I won't. 588 00:27:47,124 --> 00:27:48,467 Yes, you will. 589 00:27:48,542 --> 00:27:49,964 Ten minutes after 2:00. 590 00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:53,551 Yes, I will. 591 00:27:55,883 --> 00:27:58,227 Get a horse, get a horse! 592 00:27:58,302 --> 00:28:00,304 Get a horse. 593 00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:01,434 Look out, Lucy! 594 00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:02,514 Oh! 595 00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:03,941 What's happened to them? 596 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:05,233 Oh, George... 597 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:09,484 A good film, I think, should not be an illustrated, 598 00:28:09,563 --> 00:28:14,535 all-talking, all-movin version of a printed work 599 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:18,035 but should be itself, a thin of itself. 600 00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:19,456 George, you tried to swing underneath me 601 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,080 and break the fall for me when you went over. 602 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:24,378 I knew you were doing that. It was nice of you. 603 00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:26,376 It wasn't much of a fall to speak of. 604 00:28:26,455 --> 00:28:27,798 How about that kiss? 605 00:28:27,956 --> 00:28:30,425 # Can hear them sigh and wish to die # 606 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,923 # And see 'em wink the other eye # 607 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:36,507 # At the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo # 608 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:44,060 About the time Major Amberson dies, 609 00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:46,187 the picture starts to become another picture, 610 00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:47,859 becomes their picture. 611 00:28:47,935 --> 00:28:49,562 An actual plot was changed. 612 00:28:49,645 --> 00:28:51,693 Well, I'm sorry about that, 613 00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:52,898 'cause I was involved in all the cuts, 614 00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:54,324 but it was one of those circumstances 615 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,446 that couldn't be helped. 616 00:28:55,525 --> 00:28:56,868 He was in South America 617 00:28:56,944 --> 00:28:58,366 making a film for the government 618 00:28:58,445 --> 00:28:59,697 to help our war effort 619 00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:01,498 in that good neighbor policy we had. 620 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:06,082 The studio was very- naturally, very upset. 621 00:29:06,161 --> 00:29:07,458 They had a lot of money in this film, 622 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:08,959 and they ranted to get it out. 623 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:10,336 Consequently, we did cut 624 00:29:10,499 --> 00:29:12,672 about 25 or 30 minutes of the original film, 625 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:15,300 and we had to make two or three or four 626 00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:17,677 new bridge scenes to tie it together, 627 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,178 and there was a new ending shot. 628 00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:20,510 How is Georgie? 629 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,560 He's going to be all right. 630 00:29:22,636 --> 00:29:23,728 Annie. 631 00:29:23,804 --> 00:29:26,023 I wish you could have seen Georgie's face... 632 00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:27,350 There's no scene in a hospital, 633 00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:30,561 nothing like that ever happened. 634 00:29:30,644 --> 00:29:32,066 I can only say that all of us up here 635 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:34,773 did the very best job we could with the problem. 636 00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:38,827 As one important critic has said, 637 00:29:38,902 --> 00:29:40,779 RKO had hired Wells 638 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:42,910 To make them masterpieces, 639 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:45,584 and he delivered a masterpiece, 640 00:29:45,659 --> 00:29:47,206 and they didn't like it. 641 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:48,833 The key long scene at the end, 642 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:50,164 Which was Aggie Moorehead 643 00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:53,421 in a third-rate lodging house, 644 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,128 that was the best scene in the picture. 645 00:29:56,211 --> 00:29:58,714 That was what the picture was about. 646 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:02,677 It's gone. 647 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,306 I was sent to South America 648 00:30:04,386 --> 00:30:08,436 by Nelson Rockefeller and Jock Whitney. 649 00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:11,735 I was told that it was my patriotic duty 650 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:13,653 to go and spend a million dollars 651 00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:17,609 shooting the Carnival in Rio. 652 00:30:17,691 --> 00:30:19,944 They put it to me that it would be 653 00:30:20,027 --> 00:30:22,906 a real contribution to inter-American affairs, 654 00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,740 and so... 655 00:30:31,038 --> 00:30:33,336 Anything that I've done in any medium, 656 00:30:33,415 --> 00:30:35,713 if it's ever been any good, 657 00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:40,969 has been my way, to quote the song. 658 00:30:46,636 --> 00:30:48,638 I was in terrible trouble then. 659 00:30:51,016 --> 00:30:54,520 In the meantime, RKO has now a new government, 660 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:56,776 and they asked to see the rushes 661 00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,778 of what I'm doing in South America, 662 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:02,361 and they see a lot of people, black people, 663 00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:05,288 and they... 664 00:31:05,364 --> 00:31:07,662 made a great publicity point 665 00:31:07,741 --> 00:31:09,539 of the fact that I had gone to South America 666 00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:12,462 and thrown all this money away. 667 00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:16,417 RKO said, "Well, maybe we'd better stop this. " 668 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,594 So I was fired from RKO. 669 00:31:25,801 --> 00:31:27,269 And its slogan for that year 670 00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:29,392 printed on every piece of paper 671 00:31:29,471 --> 00:31:31,599 that went out from RKO was 672 00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:34,605 "Showmanship Instead of Genius. " 673 00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:36,857 I really wouldn't want to try 674 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:39,907 to edge my way into an elevator 675 00:31:39,981 --> 00:31:42,951 that's for geniuses only. 676 00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,613 Sometimes you get frustrated that 677 00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:49,540 people want to do things to your projects, 678 00:31:49,616 --> 00:31:51,710 in theater or film, 'cause I've had both, 679 00:31:51,785 --> 00:31:53,628 and then you have to fight, 680 00:31:53,703 --> 00:31:56,331 and I'm sure Orson Welles had a lot of struggles, 681 00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:59,715 as we know, and lost battles 682 00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:01,386 and hopefully won a few. 683 00:32:01,461 --> 00:32:04,214 He was a brilliant man, he had a lot to offer, 684 00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:07,050 he made two wonderful pictures, 685 00:32:07,134 --> 00:32:10,308 but he also... 686 00:32:10,387 --> 00:32:13,482 went bad after the second picture. 687 00:32:13,557 --> 00:32:16,811 Horrendous. I mean, there are some who've committed suicide. 688 00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:20,238 An Italian waiter came and said to me in Italian, 689 00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:24,284 "Did you ever make a picture after Citizen Kane?" 690 00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:28,409 I didn't get a job as a director 691 00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:30,206 for years afterwards. 692 00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:33,331 So then I did "Jane Eyre. " 693 00:32:37,831 --> 00:32:39,083 EH! 694 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:49,434 - Can I do anything? - Stand out of the way. 695 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,227 I'm sorry I frightened your horse. 696 00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:53,021 Apologies won't mend my ankle. 697 00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:54,313 Down, Pilot! 698 00:32:56,016 --> 00:32:57,484 I was obsessed 699 00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,482 in my hot youth 700 00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:04,158 with the idea that I would not be a star. 701 00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:06,781 I was in a position to promote myself as a star... 702 00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:08,908 - Who's that? - ... And I should've. 703 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:10,705 I should've gone back to New York 704 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:14,125 and played Hamlet and as long as it was going, 705 00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:15,953 I didn't- I had this idea that 706 00:33:16,036 --> 00:33:18,710 I wanted to be known as a director and that was it. 707 00:33:24,044 --> 00:33:26,388 The next picture I did do was "The Stranger," 708 00:33:26,463 --> 00:33:28,761 and I did that to show people 709 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,638 that I didn't glow in the dark, 710 00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:33,140 that I could say "action" and "cut" 711 00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:34,767 just like all the other fellas. 712 00:33:42,312 --> 00:33:44,280 What is it, dear? 713 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:45,824 When you grew up in that era, you thou ht- 714 00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:47,492 you saw movies for the junk that they were, 715 00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:48,614 nobody took them seriously. 716 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:50,991 You'll become part of the crime. 717 00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:53,574 But I'm already a part of it. 718 00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:57,082 'Cause I'm a part of you. 719 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,504 And I now that people dislike it, 720 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,753 but I just love his love of using the medium 721 00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:05,961 for all of its tricks and playing with them. 722 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,422 This is what a studio movie could be. 723 00:34:12,217 --> 00:34:13,890 It was supposed to be a hammy performance. 724 00:34:13,969 --> 00:34:17,064 It wasn't unconsciously so. 725 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:19,140 That's all I can say about that. 726 00:34:20,183 --> 00:34:21,776 They cut that one up, too. 727 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:25,196 Welles was an ideological challenge to Hollywood. 728 00:34:25,272 --> 00:34:27,400 He was simply not a Hollywood filmmaker. 729 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,279 None of his pictures 730 00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:33,488 really received wide distribution 731 00:34:33,572 --> 00:34:35,324 except for "The Stranger," 732 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,501 which was the only picture of his that made any money. 733 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:39,829 It's not an accident that it comes in a can. 734 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,380 They welcomed the adventurer 735 00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,924 in the 19th century much more than they do today. 736 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,298 My kind of fella is the real outsider. 737 00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:59,473 Good evening, everybody, this is Orson Welles, 738 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:01,149 the Mercury Wonder Show broadcasting tonight from 739 00:35:01,224 --> 00:35:02,646 the Air Service Command Training Center 740 00:35:02,726 --> 00:35:04,319 at Fresno, California. 741 00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:07,739 Last week, an American president 742 00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,691 fell in the midst of battle. 743 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:11,117 Guess who's taking Jack's place 744 00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:12,660 - on the program tonight? - Who? 745 00:35:12,736 --> 00:35:14,329 Orson Welles, that's who! 746 00:35:14,404 --> 00:35:16,031 Orson Welles! 747 00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:21,707 I did "Around the World in 80 Days," 748 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:23,788 and it was, I think, 749 00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:25,419 the best thing I ever did in the theater, 750 00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:27,045 but it was a financial disaster. 751 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:28,627 Before the opening in Boston, 752 00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:31,680 the costumes were sitting in the railway station, 753 00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:34,884 and there was $55,000 to pay for them. 754 00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:38,061 And I was trying to think who in Hollywood could send me 755 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:39,729 $55,000... 756 00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:42,728 In the next three hours. 757 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:45,356 I thought, "Harry Cohn. " 758 00:35:45,435 --> 00:35:47,608 Only one with the courage to do it. 759 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:50,156 I called him up, I said, "I've got the greatest story 760 00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:51,448 you've ever read," and I turned 761 00:35:51,524 --> 00:35:53,117 the paperback around 762 00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:56,367 that the girl in the box office was reading. 763 00:35:56,446 --> 00:35:58,198 It was called "The Man I Killed. " 764 00:35:58,281 --> 00:36:00,955 And I says, "It's called 'The Man I Killed,' 765 00:36:01,034 --> 00:36:04,163 written by such and such, a paperback, buy it!" 766 00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:08,341 I said, "You get me $55,000 to Boston-" 767 00:36:08,416 --> 00:36:10,635 "And I will make it for you if you'll send me 768 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:12,508 $47,000 in two hours. " 769 00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:15,136 55,000 came. 770 00:36:15,215 --> 00:36:16,637 Welles always liked to pretend that he had 771 00:36:16,716 --> 00:36:18,810 absolutely no idea that Harry Cohn 772 00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:20,808 had asked him to make a movie with Rita Hayworth. 773 00:36:20,887 --> 00:36:22,389 He had no idea what to do. 774 00:36:22,472 --> 00:36:24,600 The stage door keeper of the theater that he was 775 00:36:24,683 --> 00:36:26,981 working in when he was doing "Around the World" 776 00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:30,109 happened to be reading a book called "The Lady from Shanghai. " 777 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,531 It's called something or other, 778 00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:32,903 it wasn't "Lady from Shanghai" then. 779 00:36:32,982 --> 00:36:34,529 Sometimes he told the story one way, 780 00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:35,906 and sometimes he'd tell it another way. 781 00:36:35,985 --> 00:36:37,202 It's all nonsense. 782 00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:38,530 Maybe that comes from one of those 783 00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:39,990 foreign language interviews 784 00:36:40,073 --> 00:36:42,121 where I pretend I understand the question 785 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,952 and say yes, you know? 786 00:36:58,675 --> 00:37:02,430 We are bringing together, for the first time on the air, 787 00:37:02,512 --> 00:37:05,231 one of Hollywood's best-known married couples, 788 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,650 Rita Hayworth and Orson Welles. 789 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:11,776 I had divorced from Rita. 790 00:37:15,108 --> 00:37:18,032 She came to me and said, "I want to make your picture. " 791 00:37:18,111 --> 00:37:20,910 Welles would say anything at any time 792 00:37:20,989 --> 00:37:23,663 if it sounded good at the moment, 793 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,245 and he often admitted to that himself. 794 00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:27,874 Harry sent for me and said, 795 00:37:27,954 --> 00:37:30,924 "I want you to do that with Rita, for her sake. " 796 00:37:30,999 --> 00:37:32,171 # Then don't... # 797 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,593 I was lucky enough to be with her 798 00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:37,673 longer than any of the other men in her life. 799 00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:39,133 She is a dear person, 800 00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:40,967 and she was a wonderful wife 801 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:44,475 and an extraordinary girl in every way. 802 00:37:44,554 --> 00:37:47,433 There've been many women, haven't there... 803 00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:49,517 Yes. 804 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:52,070 I think the first sex biologically 805 00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:53,488 is the female sex, 806 00:37:53,563 --> 00:37:55,657 and there are many creatures 807 00:37:55,732 --> 00:37:58,611 in our world who are women 808 00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:02,038 and only become male as long as is necessary 809 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,786 and then revert to their original 810 00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:05,208 and superior condition. 811 00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:09,413 You know, I think we're a kind of decoration. 812 00:38:09,496 --> 00:38:12,500 I think the basic and essential human 813 00:38:12,582 --> 00:38:15,085 is the woman, 814 00:38:15,168 --> 00:38:16,761 and all that we're doing 815 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:19,009 is trying to brighten up the place 816 00:38:19,088 --> 00:38:21,967 because we've got to try and justify our existence-. 817 00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:23,222 Look how little we do 818 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,053 to keep the race going. 819 00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:27,389 I've had a marvelous sex life. 820 00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:29,816 Is it too personal to ask what age it started at? 821 00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:31,268 Well, if I tell you, you won't believe it, 822 00:38:31,351 --> 00:38:32,398 so I'd better not answer. 823 00:38:32,477 --> 00:38:37,608 He was notoriously flirtatious with both sexes. 824 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,910 He used to love to lie in a bath 825 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:43,113 and do interviews with his associates, 826 00:38:43,196 --> 00:38:44,789 which embarrassed some of them 827 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,537 and perhaps delighted others, I don't know. 828 00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:51,250 I myself have absolutely no evidence 829 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,797 that Wells ever had 830 00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:54,840 any kind of sexual relationship with a man, 831 00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:56,133 but he was very, very conscious 832 00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:57,961 that it was something that he could use. 833 00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,297 It's the business of the director, 834 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:02,929 is to carry on a continual courtship 835 00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:05,260 with the people he sticks in front of the lens. 836 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:08,017 And when you deal with stars, 837 00:39:08,096 --> 00:39:11,771 you know, real stars, you have to... 838 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,898 You have to really make love. 839 00:39:24,112 --> 00:39:25,864 Personally, I don't like 840 00:39:25,947 --> 00:39:27,745 a girlfriend to have a husband. 841 00:39:27,824 --> 00:39:30,668 If she'll fool a husband, I figure she'll fool me. 842 00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:32,461 George. 843 00:39:32,537 --> 00:39:34,380 Even though this is a more conventional thriller 844 00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:36,924 with a movie star at the heart of it, 845 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,673 the film is much more surrealistic, 846 00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:41,846 much more strange, and all the more strange 847 00:39:41,921 --> 00:39:43,923 because, when the studio doctored it, 848 00:39:44,007 --> 00:39:47,227 they put into it these big close-ups 849 00:39:47,302 --> 00:39:48,474 of Rita Hayworth, and they add 850 00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:50,396 to the surreal quality of the film. 851 00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:02,783 I thought it was me that was crazy. 852 00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:04,702 After what I'd been through, 853 00:40:04,777 --> 00:40:09,999 anything crazy at all seemed natural, but now... 854 00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:12,998 I was sane on one subject, her. 855 00:40:13,077 --> 00:40:15,330 I knew about her. 856 00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:17,381 And I was the fail guy. 857 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,545 He was not afraid of being self-conscious 858 00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:23,972 with the camera. 859 00:40:24,047 --> 00:40:26,220 He did it with such conviction and with such brilliance 860 00:40:26,299 --> 00:40:28,051 that you began to realize, "Ah, I see, the camera moves. " 861 00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,818 Bewildering, astonishing things 862 00:40:36,893 --> 00:40:38,816 are happening all the time, 863 00:40:38,895 --> 00:40:41,819 building up to the great mirror maze at the end. 864 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,573 I knew I'd find you two together. 865 00:40:49,656 --> 00:40:52,330 But you'd be foolish to fire that gun. 866 00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,921 With these mirrors, it's difficult to tell. 867 00:40:56,996 --> 00:41:00,045 You are aiming at me, aren't you? 868 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,593 I'm aiming at you, lover. 869 00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:05,218 Of course, killing you is killing myself. 870 00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,122 Michael... 871 00:41:31,197 --> 00:41:33,416 Come back here. 872 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:35,585 Michael. 873 00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:37,458 Please! 874 00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:41,007 This is one of the great mysteries, 875 00:41:41,082 --> 00:41:44,632 why this extraordinarily smart guy was outwitted 876 00:41:44,711 --> 00:41:47,055 by so much less remarkable 877 00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:49,553 and intelligent people so often. 878 00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:50,975 MONEY- 879 00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:57,181 Macbeth! 880 00:41:57,265 --> 00:41:58,858 Beware MacDuff! 881 00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:02,358 Macduff! Beware MacDuff! 882 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:06,031 I don't know what I haven't done about this play 883 00:42:06,107 --> 00:42:08,235 except do it as well as I'd like to. 884 00:42:08,317 --> 00:42:10,866 It's a great feeling to be dealing with 885 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:13,198 material which is better than yourself. 886 00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:15,454 Answer me! 887 00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:24,668 Double, double, toil and trouble, 888 00:42:24,751 --> 00:42:28,472 fire burn and cauldron bubble. 889 00:42:28,546 --> 00:42:30,514 He had nothing. The sets are bad. 890 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:33,890 But the way that he then had to light them 891 00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:37,598 and choreograph the camera and the actors in those sets... 892 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,980 It had tremendous power. 893 00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:47,487 Which of you have done this? 894 00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:50,910 Sometimes, when you can do it all, you- 895 00:42:51,027 --> 00:42:52,495 you know, it's like too much ice cream, 896 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:54,664 too many flavors, you can't even make a decision, 897 00:42:54,739 --> 00:42:58,369 but how you fill the limitation 898 00:42:58,451 --> 00:43:00,579 shows the real artist or not. 899 00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:03,707 None of his Shakespeare films 900 00:43:03,790 --> 00:43:06,213 were ever really supported by the critics. 901 00:43:06,292 --> 00:43:09,045 They complained about the Scottish accents. 902 00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:14,893 Knock, knock. Never at quiet. 903 00:43:14,967 --> 00:43:16,264 The plague of these... 904 00:43:16,344 --> 00:43:17,812 He had to do all these changes 905 00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:21,107 in the soundtrack and cut "Macbeth," 906 00:43:21,182 --> 00:43:23,025 but he was the one who did the cutting. 907 00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:35,955 It was a big critical failure. 908 00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:37,953 It was the biggest critical failure I ever had. 909 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,716 What is that noise? 910 00:43:54,924 --> 00:43:56,642 I'm very happy in America, 911 00:43:56,717 --> 00:43:59,846 but it happens that America is not as happy with me 912 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:01,431 - as I am with it. - Muchas gracias, sexier. 913 00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:03,061 He was different. 914 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:05,360 He was really doing something 915 00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:09,189 so unique to his own imagination, 916 00:44:09,272 --> 00:44:11,946 and whether that means his films were successful 917 00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:13,443 is a whole different matter. 918 00:44:13,526 --> 00:44:14,994 They are successful. 919 00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:21,826 Like the fruit pickers, I go where the work is. 920 00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:31,135 I don't think of myself as in exile at all. 921 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,713 In fact, I've spent most of my life 922 00:44:33,796 --> 00:44:35,469 not quite unpacked. 923 00:44:38,426 --> 00:44:40,019 One of the things that had driven him away 924 00:44:40,094 --> 00:44:42,643 was the McCarthy-in period. 925 00:44:42,722 --> 00:44:44,975 He was very messed up by what was going on 926 00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:46,183 in America politically, 927 00:44:46,267 --> 00:44:47,894 had been a real progressive, you know, 928 00:44:47,977 --> 00:44:50,275 and he was horrified. 929 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:55,864 He was never a communist, but the FBI was following him, 930 00:44:55,943 --> 00:44:57,536 since "Citizen Kane," 931 00:44:57,612 --> 00:44:59,831 when Hearst was a friend of Hoover. 932 00:44:59,906 --> 00:45:02,500 I've been investigated over and over again. 933 00:45:02,575 --> 00:45:05,670 It's one of our favorite indoor and outdoor sports. 934 00:45:29,477 --> 00:45:30,729 Harry! 935 00:45:32,188 --> 00:45:34,236 The most successful thing he was ever part of, 936 00:45:34,315 --> 00:45:37,865 commercially, was offered a percentage as part of the deal, 937 00:45:37,944 --> 00:45:40,072 but he couldn't afford it because he needed the money, 938 00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,282 so he would have been a wealthy man. 939 00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:45,918 Look down there. 940 00:45:45,993 --> 00:45:48,462 Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots 941 00:45:48,537 --> 00:45:50,505 stopped moving forever? 942 00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:53,801 If I offered you �20,000 for every dot that stopped, 943 00:45:53,876 --> 00:45:55,878 would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, 944 00:45:55,962 --> 00:45:57,930 or would you calculate 945 00:45:58,005 --> 00:46:00,007 how many dots you could afford to spare? 946 00:46:00,091 --> 00:46:01,889 Free of income tax, old man. 947 00:46:01,968 --> 00:46:04,346 What's also kind of interesting and ironic 948 00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:05,896 is that Harry Lime, for him, 949 00:46:05,972 --> 00:46:08,316 was the most detestable character he ever played, 950 00:46:08,391 --> 00:46:09,938 but everybody else loves Harry Lime. 951 00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:12,687 I have never in my life 952 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:14,022 seen anything in the same 953 00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:17,826 category of hideousness, but I adore him! 954 00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:24,164 Don't be so gloomy. 955 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,413 After all, it's not that awful. 956 00:46:26,492 --> 00:46:28,494 You know what the fella says. 957 00:46:28,577 --> 00:46:30,545 In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, 958 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,374 they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, 959 00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:35,050 but they produced Michelangelo, 960 00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:37,128 Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. 961 00:46:37,211 --> 00:46:39,555 In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. 962 00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,304 They had 500 years of democracy and peace, 963 00:46:42,383 --> 00:46:44,385 and what did that produce? 964 00:46:44,468 --> 00:46:47,472 The cuckoo clock. Solon, Holly. 965 00:46:47,555 --> 00:46:49,523 A great many of us have been 966 00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:51,066 in Europe during these last years. 967 00:46:51,142 --> 00:46:53,520 It's been a kind of frontier for us in films, 968 00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:57,823 and it's a more anarchistic and freer atmosphere. 969 00:46:57,898 --> 00:46:59,616 You know, a lot of people, I think, conceptually, 970 00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:01,615 like the idea of change, 971 00:47:01,694 --> 00:47:03,446 but they don't want things to change. 972 00:47:03,529 --> 00:47:05,782 But Welles' impatience was about that change, 973 00:47:05,865 --> 00:47:07,993 and his interest in the Scottsboro Boys case 974 00:47:08,075 --> 00:47:09,748 and in early civil fights. 975 00:47:09,827 --> 00:47:11,124 Speaking out, which you could only do 976 00:47:11,203 --> 00:47:12,671 if you were an independent. 977 00:47:12,747 --> 00:47:14,294 My own loyalty is greater 978 00:47:14,373 --> 00:47:17,343 to the idea of myself as a member of the human family 979 00:47:17,418 --> 00:47:21,468 than it is to a- as a member of any profession. 980 00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:24,676 I don't take art as seriously as politics. 981 00:47:27,345 --> 00:47:30,849 One of the great things about Welles as a filmmaker 982 00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:32,899 is him capturing the periods... 983 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:35,728 of whenever he was making the film, 984 00:47:35,811 --> 00:47:38,189 the paranoia of what was going on in America. 985 00:47:38,272 --> 00:47:40,616 It's really reflected in "Othello. " 986 00:47:40,691 --> 00:47:42,113 Black Othello, the outsider, 987 00:47:42,193 --> 00:47:43,194 the mercenary, the foreigner, 988 00:47:43,277 --> 00:47:45,405 must feel a certain insecurity 989 00:47:45,488 --> 00:47:49,118 when he contemplates this curious conquest of his: 990 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,453 The senator's daughter who fled from her palace 991 00:47:51,535 --> 00:47:53,913 in the dead of night to marry a black man-. 992 00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:56,966 It's partly a kind of an atmosphere and a mood, 993 00:47:57,041 --> 00:47:59,260 but it's like a horror film. 994 00:48:07,927 --> 00:48:10,601 - Has he said anything? - I know not what he- 995 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,181 What, what? 996 00:48:12,264 --> 00:48:14,232 Lying. 997 00:48:15,851 --> 00:48:17,569 Lie with her? 998 00:48:17,645 --> 00:48:21,491 With her. On her. 999 00:48:21,565 --> 00:48:22,862 What you will. 1000 00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:28,865 Came to Mogador on the west coast of Africa to shoot. 1001 00:48:28,948 --> 00:48:31,121 We got a telegram- Scalera, with whom I had 1002 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,747 a contract to make the picture, 1003 00:48:32,827 --> 00:48:33,874 had gone bankrupt. 1004 00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:36,251 We had no costumes, nothing. 1005 00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:39,709 That was the big scene of the murder of Rodrigo. 1006 00:48:39,792 --> 00:48:43,046 And what can you shoot without costumes? 1007 00:48:43,129 --> 00:48:45,177 That's a Turkish bath. 1008 00:48:45,256 --> 00:48:49,602 Nothing was designed, everything had to be found-. 1009 00:48:49,677 --> 00:48:51,054 We had to do it 1010 00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:52,354 with whatever money I could raise 1011 00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:55,149 and stop until I raised some more. 1012 00:48:55,224 --> 00:48:58,148 Now, that took almost four years. 1013 00:48:58,227 --> 00:49:00,070 Now, there are still people today who say, 1014 00:49:00,146 --> 00:49:01,523 "I don't want to hire Welles as a director," 1015 00:49:01,605 --> 00:49:04,279 it took him four years to make Othello". 1016 00:49:05,651 --> 00:49:07,995 "Othello" was his own production. 1017 00:49:08,404 --> 00:49:11,658 However, there are various versions of it. 1018 00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:13,208 There's his version, and then there's a version 1019 00:49:13,284 --> 00:49:14,877 that Beatrice redid. 1020 00:49:14,952 --> 00:49:17,296 Called some friends who were in the business, 1021 00:49:17,371 --> 00:49:19,294 the movie business, and so I said, 1022 00:49:19,373 --> 00:49:21,876 "Where do you think one could find, you know, 1023 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:25,680 a negative or whatever is left of Othello?" 1024 00:49:25,754 --> 00:49:27,677 And they ended up finding it 1025 00:49:27,756 --> 00:49:30,384 in some lab in New Jersey. 1026 00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:32,687 It really was in perfect condition. 1027 00:49:32,761 --> 00:49:34,513 They made, I think, a few mistakes. 1028 00:49:46,275 --> 00:49:47,777 In June of 1955, 1029 00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:50,739 He finally got round to nailing "Moby Dick. " 1030 00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:54,416 Of course, he'd appeared in John Huston's movie of it. 1031 00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:57,587 He staged what he called "Moby Dick Rehearsed" here. 1032 00:49:57,661 --> 00:50:01,211 It only ran for three-and-a-half weeks, 1033 00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:03,463 but I think it's one of the landmarks 1034 00:50:03,542 --> 00:50:05,465 in British theater of the 1950s, 1035 00:50:05,544 --> 00:50:07,137 and it's certainly a great landmark 1036 00:50:07,213 --> 00:50:09,011 in Wells' own life. 1037 00:50:09,089 --> 00:50:10,716 They'd filmed a little bit of it. 1038 00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:12,847 The possibility is that it was impounded 1039 00:50:12,927 --> 00:50:15,680 by the tax people here, 1040 00:50:15,763 --> 00:50:18,516 that it was lost, that somebody stole it. 1041 00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:21,648 A very Wellesian episode altogether. 1042 00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:23,946 Hands off, you two are of mankind! 1043 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:26,615 Old Ahab stands alone 1044 00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:28,943 among the millions of the peopled Earth, 1045 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,575 nor gods nor men his neighbors. 1046 00:50:31,654 --> 00:50:32,906 Cut, no good. 1047 00:50:36,283 --> 00:50:38,627 Television was the medium 1048 00:50:38,744 --> 00:50:41,668 for great freedom and experiment. 1049 00:50:41,747 --> 00:50:43,545 We started working. 1050 00:50:43,624 --> 00:50:48,551 Both of us believed that you don't hang on to any idea, 1051 00:50:48,629 --> 00:50:50,176 but the moment that you'd had an idea, 1052 00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:51,849 and you begin to try it, 1053 00:50:51,924 --> 00:50:53,892 that leads to you think of something else. 1054 00:50:53,968 --> 00:50:56,972 And then, as I was doing that, turn around, 1055 00:50:57,179 --> 00:50:59,602 "Yes, Peter, but what if, instead of that, 1056 00:50:59,682 --> 00:51:01,025 "we started with him here, 1057 00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,194 and he leapt over to that point?" 1058 00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:04,737 Blow winds-... 1059 00:51:04,812 --> 00:51:09,113 Orson suddenly took off with tremendous passion. 1060 00:51:09,191 --> 00:51:10,443 Rage... blow... 1061 00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,704 You cataracts and hurricanoes! 1062 00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:16,782 One thing one can be sure is that 1063 00:51:16,865 --> 00:51:19,664 there wasn't before him an Orson, 1064 00:51:19,743 --> 00:51:21,120 and there'll never be a second. 1065 00:51:21,203 --> 00:51:26,505 I think I made, essentially, a mistake in staying in movies, 1066 00:51:26,584 --> 00:51:27,927 because I... but it... 1067 00:51:28,002 --> 00:51:29,675 It's a mistake I can't regret, 1068 00:51:29,753 --> 00:51:31,881 because it's like saying, 1069 00:51:31,964 --> 00:51:34,092 "I shouldn't have stayed married to that woman, 1070 00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:35,551 but I did because I love her. " 1071 00:51:37,011 --> 00:51:38,934 In theater, you're in space, 1072 00:51:39,013 --> 00:51:41,141 and the lighting can focus 1073 00:51:41,223 --> 00:51:42,941 where you want the audience to look, 1074 00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:46,317 but, in general, the audience can look anywhere they want. 1075 00:51:46,395 --> 00:51:48,443 The actual complete manipulation 1076 00:51:48,522 --> 00:51:50,695 of the image is something you can do in film. 1077 00:51:55,195 --> 00:51:58,995 I can't change this condition of love, 1078 00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:01,497 but I think I would be better off without it. 1079 00:52:03,704 --> 00:52:05,502 On December 25th, 1080 00:52:05,581 --> 00:52:08,460 an aeroplane was sighted off the coast of Barcelona. 1081 00:52:08,542 --> 00:52:10,715 It was flying empty. 1082 00:52:10,794 --> 00:52:13,172 This motion picture is a fictionalized reconstruction 1083 00:52:13,255 --> 00:52:15,053 of the events leading up 1084 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:16,884 to the appearance of the empty plane. 1085 00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:25,393 ...was talking to you, what was it? 1086 00:52:25,476 --> 00:52:27,649 ...it was just a name. He was dying. 1087 00:52:27,728 --> 00:52:28,980 What name was it? 1088 00:52:29,063 --> 00:52:30,280 Arkadin. 1089 00:52:30,356 --> 00:52:34,111 It's a story about a- a high financier, 1090 00:52:34,193 --> 00:52:36,992 a man of many countries 1091 00:52:37,071 --> 00:52:38,288 and three passports. 1092 00:52:38,364 --> 00:52:40,537 In the morning, I think it's splendid, 1093 00:52:40,616 --> 00:52:42,960 in the evening, I wonder. 1094 00:52:43,035 --> 00:52:46,039 How much obligation do you feel to a mass audience? 1095 00:52:46,121 --> 00:52:49,546 I would love to have a mass audience. 1096 00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:52,253 I knew what I wanted. 1097 00:52:52,336 --> 00:52:54,338 That's the difference between us. 1098 00:52:54,421 --> 00:52:58,221 Did my poverty help my creativity? 1099 00:52:58,300 --> 00:52:59,973 Uh, no. 1100 00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:24,710 Ladies and gentlemen, please. 1101 00:53:24,785 --> 00:53:26,958 I must beg you 1102 00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:29,881 not to make the slightest sound, 1103 00:53:29,957 --> 00:53:33,837 as the princess is in a state of trance. 1104 00:53:35,337 --> 00:53:36,964 Orson really, it seems to me, 1105 00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:38,720 just wants to work. 1106 00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:42,019 But at the same time, there is something in him 1107 00:53:42,094 --> 00:53:45,894 that drives him to alienate the people with the money. 1108 00:53:45,973 --> 00:53:48,647 Excuse me, sir? 1109 00:53:48,726 --> 00:53:51,149 Yes? 1110 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:53,697 Well, I'm a young filmmaker and a real bi fan. 1111 00:53:53,772 --> 00:53:57,197 I- I just wanted to meet you. 1112 00:53:57,276 --> 00:53:59,449 My pleasure, I'm Orson Welles. 1113 00:53:59,528 --> 00:54:02,247 I'm... Edward D. Wood, Jr. 1114 00:54:05,033 --> 00:54:06,956 What you working on? 1115 00:54:07,035 --> 00:54:08,878 Well, the financing just fell through 1116 00:54:08,954 --> 00:54:10,752 for the third time on "Don Quixote. " 1117 00:54:10,831 --> 00:54:13,459 I hate when that happens. 1118 00:54:13,542 --> 00:54:17,843 He had just done a picture for Universal as an actor. 1119 00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:24,934 They asked him to play the heavy in this thing. 1120 00:54:25,012 --> 00:54:28,107 He needed the money, so he said okay. 1121 00:54:28,182 --> 00:54:30,310 I said, "Who's gonna direct it?" 1122 00:54:30,392 --> 00:54:31,985 And he says, "Well, we haven't picked a director yet. 1123 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:34,529 We have Orson Welles to do the heavy, though. " 1124 00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:36,448 This was on the long-distance phone, 1125 00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:39,618 and after a static-filled pause, 1126 00:54:39,693 --> 00:54:42,947 I said, "Why don't you have him direct it? 1127 00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:45,499 He's a pretty good director, you know. " 1128 00:54:45,574 --> 00:54:47,702 And the reaction at first 1129 00:54:47,785 --> 00:54:49,662 was a prolonged silence as though 1130 00:54:49,745 --> 00:54:52,749 I had suggested that my mother direct the film. 1131 00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:54,299 Ed... 1132 00:54:55,459 --> 00:54:56,506 Yes? 1133 00:54:56,585 --> 00:54:59,008 Visions are worth fighting for. 1134 00:54:59,087 --> 00:55:03,718 Why spend your life making someone else's dreams? 1135 00:55:03,801 --> 00:55:05,428 I said, "I'll direct it, 1136 00:55:05,511 --> 00:55:07,559 "but if I also get to write it. 1137 00:55:07,638 --> 00:55:09,732 Every word of it, an entirely new script. " 1138 00:55:09,807 --> 00:55:10,854 They said yes. 1139 00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:12,560 You won't have any trouble with me. 1140 00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:15,396 You bet your sweet life I won't. 1141 00:55:15,479 --> 00:55:17,902 "Touch of Evil" is, of course, really 1142 00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:20,359 the story of the decline and fall of Captain Quinlan, 1143 00:55:20,442 --> 00:55:21,785 Orson's part. 1144 00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:26,240 He's everything we- we hate. 1145 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:29,623 But he isn't what we hate, it's his method, 1146 00:55:29,701 --> 00:55:32,454 and it's that ambiguity 1147 00:55:32,538 --> 00:55:34,540 which gives tension to a story. 1148 00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:40,463 They loved the rushes. 1149 00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:45,138 Then they saw a rough cut of it, 1150 00:55:45,217 --> 00:55:47,140 they were so horrified that they... 1151 00:55:47,219 --> 00:55:50,644 wouldn't let me in the studio. 1152 00:55:50,722 --> 00:55:52,269 I gave a dinner party 1153 00:55:52,349 --> 00:55:53,896 not long after I started the picture 1154 00:55:53,976 --> 00:55:57,571 for all my old producer friends and big star friends, 1155 00:55:57,646 --> 00:55:59,944 the old Hollywood brigade. 1156 00:56:00,023 --> 00:56:01,491 I was a little late, 1157 00:56:01,567 --> 00:56:03,285 so they were all there having their drinks on. 1158 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,704 I came in, in order to arrive in time 1159 00:56:05,779 --> 00:56:08,623 in my makeup and costume. 1160 00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:10,292 And they all said, "How are you, Orson? 1161 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:12,244 You're looking great. " 1162 00:56:13,662 --> 00:56:15,915 It was too dark for them, too strange. 1163 00:56:22,254 --> 00:56:25,303 Welles had been fired off the film, 1164 00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:27,259 kicked off the Lot. 1165 00:56:27,342 --> 00:56:29,595 He wrote this 58-page memo 1166 00:56:29,678 --> 00:56:32,522 about what should happen to the movie, 1167 00:56:32,598 --> 00:56:34,600 um, and pretty much, 1168 00:56:34,683 --> 00:56:38,859 Universal at the time took the memo and tossed it. 1169 00:56:42,274 --> 00:56:44,368 It's not like with "Magnificent Ambersons," 1170 00:56:44,443 --> 00:56:46,286 as if we found the missing last reel, 1171 00:56:46,361 --> 00:56:49,615 but the film became more itself. 1172 00:56:49,698 --> 00:56:52,201 Orson, above everything else, 1173 00:56:52,284 --> 00:56:55,163 was a master filmmaker and knew exactly 1174 00:56:55,245 --> 00:56:57,213 how to make a film, 1175 00:56:57,289 --> 00:56:59,587 as it turned out, from beyond the grave. 1176 00:57:04,046 --> 00:57:06,014 In Welles' memo, 1177 00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:08,763 he said two thins about the opening shot. 1178 00:57:08,842 --> 00:57:12,062 He didn't want titles over it, 1179 00:57:12,137 --> 00:57:14,686 and he wanted a montage 1180 00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:16,642 of different music tracks. 1181 00:57:21,396 --> 00:57:24,900 At that time, this was seen as a B-movie. 1182 00:57:24,983 --> 00:57:27,327 It was very rare that somebody 1183 00:57:27,402 --> 00:57:29,075 would not have titles 1184 00:57:29,154 --> 00:57:31,282 At the beginning of a film in a B-movie. 1185 00:57:32,741 --> 00:57:34,789 So there they are, walking through the town, 1186 00:57:34,868 --> 00:57:36,711 and oop, there's that music, 1187 00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:39,757 and there's a car, and, right now- 1188 00:57:39,831 --> 00:57:42,960 boonk! That car could've blown up. 1189 00:57:43,043 --> 00:57:44,966 Whereas- but if there are titles over that, 1190 00:57:45,045 --> 00:57:46,922 you just know it's not gonna blow up. 1191 00:57:47,005 --> 00:57:48,973 So by removing the titles 1192 00:57:49,049 --> 00:57:51,973 and having this sort of freeform music, 1193 00:57:52,052 --> 00:57:54,271 it puts a suspense under this scene 1194 00:57:54,346 --> 00:57:57,691 that didn't really exist before. 1195 00:57:57,766 --> 00:58:00,189 He'd spent those years in radio doing 1196 00:58:00,268 --> 00:58:01,736 exactly this kind of stuff. 1197 00:58:01,812 --> 00:58:03,109 We did this in "American Graffiti," 1198 00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:04,986 which was the same kind of thing. 1199 00:58:05,065 --> 00:58:07,409 What we called "worldization" of the sound, 1200 00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:08,861 which is to make it sound like it was 1201 00:58:08,944 --> 00:58:11,072 in the environment in "American Graffiti," 1202 00:58:11,154 --> 00:58:13,327 and having it pass by in cars and that sort of thing, 1203 00:58:13,407 --> 00:58:16,752 which Welles had already thought of in "Touch of Evil. " 1204 00:58:16,827 --> 00:58:18,204 I think both Walter and I were 1205 00:58:18,286 --> 00:58:21,415 very charmed by that- that whole concept. 1206 00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:25,878 He's definitely way ahead of all the rest of us. 1207 00:58:31,383 --> 00:58:34,262 Fell, Hank was a great detective all right. 1208 00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:36,938 And a lousy cop. 1209 00:58:37,014 --> 00:58:38,857 Is that all you have to say for him? 1210 00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:42,436 He was some kind of a man. 1211 00:58:45,689 --> 00:58:48,317 What does it matter what you say about people? 1212 00:58:56,116 --> 00:58:59,120 Goodbye, Tana. 1213 00:58:59,202 --> 00:59:00,499 Adios. 1214 00:59:00,579 --> 00:59:02,377 Adios. 1215 00:59:03,498 --> 00:59:04,715 Wow, huh? 1216 00:59:04,791 --> 00:59:07,670 You know, Welles didn't even want to do this movie, 1217 00:59:07,753 --> 00:59:09,676 but you know, sometimes you do your best work 1218 00:59:09,755 --> 00:59:12,133 when you got a gun to your head. 1219 00:59:14,134 --> 00:59:17,479 I do think working for posterity is vulgar. 1220 00:59:21,516 --> 00:59:24,986 Because posterity is just as big a whore 1221 00:59:25,062 --> 00:59:27,110 as the present. 1222 00:59:27,189 --> 00:59:31,410 Filmmakers of today can do what they do because Orson did it. 1223 00:59:31,485 --> 00:59:32,953 Every art form that I know 1224 00:59:33,028 --> 00:59:34,996 has somebody who blazed new trails, 1225 00:59:35,072 --> 00:59:36,824 and their influence starts being felt 1226 00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:38,375 about a generation later. 1227 00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:41,374 Plato told us that we should know ourselves, 1228 00:59:41,453 --> 00:59:44,957 and the object of every artist, 1229 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,213 good, bad or indifferent, 1230 00:59:47,292 --> 00:59:51,388 is a lifelong inquiry into that subject, 1231 00:59:51,463 --> 00:59:55,388 and his work is testimony to that effort, 1232 00:59:55,467 --> 00:59:58,437 but I'm in no position to sum myself up. 1233 00:59:58,512 --> 01:00:00,230 It's a peculiar thing. When you have an artist 1234 01:00:00,305 --> 01:00:02,649 who works so outside the box, 1235 01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:04,772 not everybody gets it at the time. 1236 01:00:04,851 --> 01:00:08,822 Do you know that I always liked Hollywood very much? 1237 01:00:08,897 --> 01:00:10,524 It just wasn't reciprocated. 1238 01:00:31,586 --> 01:00:34,886 He freed the directors 1239 01:00:34,965 --> 01:00:37,764 from the kind of static ways 1240 01:00:37,843 --> 01:00:40,141 they used to have about the way you light, 1241 01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:42,143 about the way you put your camera, 1242 01:00:42,222 --> 01:00:45,066 the way you have the setting and so forth, 1243 01:00:45,142 --> 01:00:48,692 and it's very clear in "The Trial," the Kafka. 1244 01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:50,363 He didn't do really Kafka. 1245 01:00:50,438 --> 01:00:52,566 He did Orson Welles' Kafka. 1246 01:01:03,743 --> 01:01:05,711 I was living in a hotel on Tuileries, 1247 01:01:05,787 --> 01:01:08,666 pacing up and down in my bedroom, 1248 01:01:08,748 --> 01:01:10,842 looking out the window. 1249 01:01:10,917 --> 01:01:12,794 And I'm not such a fool 1250 01:01:12,878 --> 01:01:15,722 as not to take the moon very seriously, 1251 01:01:15,797 --> 01:01:18,141 and I saw the moon, very large, 1252 01:01:18,258 --> 01:01:22,354 what we in America call a harvest moon, enormous. 1253 01:01:22,429 --> 01:01:25,478 And then, miraculously, two of them. 1254 01:01:25,557 --> 01:01:27,651 And on each moon, there were numbers, 1255 01:01:27,726 --> 01:01:29,820 and I realized they were the clock faces 1256 01:01:29,895 --> 01:01:32,239 of the Gare d'Orsay. 1257 01:01:32,314 --> 01:01:35,284 And I remembered that the Gare d'Orsay was empty. 1258 01:01:35,358 --> 01:01:37,702 And at 5:30 in the morning, I went downstairs, 1259 01:01:37,777 --> 01:01:39,905 got in a cab, crossed the Seine, 1260 01:01:39,988 --> 01:01:43,788 and entered this empty railway station 1261 01:01:43,867 --> 01:01:46,495 where I discovered the world of Kafka. 1262 01:01:51,583 --> 01:01:55,633 It has been said that the logic of this story 1263 01:01:55,712 --> 01:01:58,340 is the logic of a dream. 1264 01:01:58,423 --> 01:01:59,720 Come with me, Mr. K. 1265 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,198 Orson's view of Josef K. 1266 01:02:19,277 --> 01:02:22,451 Was that, far from being the innocent victim 1267 01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:26,080 of bureaucracy that Kafka had written that- 1268 01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:28,787 but, in Orson's version, 1269 01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:30,087 and I can hear him saying, 1270 01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:31,335 I can hear his thundering voice, 1271 01:02:31,414 --> 01:02:33,041 "He's guilty as hell. " 1272 01:02:34,751 --> 01:02:36,674 He would like to tell a story 1273 01:02:36,753 --> 01:02:40,508 to make a metaphor about his vision of the world, 1274 01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:43,343 speaking about how we can feel guilty 1275 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,053 without being guilty. 1276 01:02:45,136 --> 01:02:47,685 You came to see me about this case, that's good. 1277 01:02:50,308 --> 01:02:53,482 I saw it as a European story, 1278 01:02:53,561 --> 01:02:56,360 full of old European bric-a-brac, 1279 01:02:56,439 --> 01:03:01,161 With IBM machines lurking in the background. 1280 01:03:01,236 --> 01:03:03,079 You think it's a major movie, 1281 01:03:03,154 --> 01:03:05,498 whatever the critics said about it. 1282 01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:09,036 There really wasn't indie filmmaking 1283 01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:10,996 in the '40s, '50s, 1284 01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:13,047 you know, when Welles was doing it. 1285 01:03:14,207 --> 01:03:15,208 He wasn't happy doing it. 1286 01:03:15,292 --> 01:03:16,384 He had no choice. 1287 01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:20,054 There's a new moment in filmmaking. 1288 01:03:20,130 --> 01:03:22,383 It's not that we're better, the filmmakers, 1289 01:03:22,465 --> 01:03:24,684 but that the distribution system 1290 01:03:24,759 --> 01:03:26,102 has broken down a little, 1291 01:03:26,177 --> 01:03:29,977 and the public is more open, more ready 1292 01:03:30,056 --> 01:03:31,103 for difficult subjects. 1293 01:03:31,182 --> 01:03:32,775 Imagine what it means for me 1294 01:03:32,851 --> 01:03:34,478 to have had the chance to make it. 1295 01:03:34,561 --> 01:03:36,780 Indeed, to have had the chance to work. 1296 01:03:42,027 --> 01:03:44,325 He was an unbeatable man. 1297 01:03:44,404 --> 01:03:45,747 You couldn't, you know, if- 1298 01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:47,369 Something didn't work, 1299 01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:49,827 he said, "Okay, let's move forward," 1300 01:03:49,909 --> 01:03:51,456 and he would do another thing 1301 01:03:51,536 --> 01:03:53,038 and one other thing. 1302 01:03:53,121 --> 01:03:54,998 There was no way of stopping him. 1303 01:03:57,834 --> 01:04:00,383 I said once to him, "My God, you looked 1304 01:04:00,462 --> 01:04:01,679 wonderful in Jane Eyre!" 1305 01:04:01,755 --> 01:04:03,348 That's the first time I saw him. 1306 01:04:03,423 --> 01:04:05,391 And he said, "Yeah, 1307 01:04:05,467 --> 01:04:08,846 but you should have seen the corset I had. " 1308 01:04:08,928 --> 01:04:10,896 We are on the Dalmatian Coast, 1309 01:04:10,972 --> 01:04:13,066 on the Adriatic. 1310 01:04:13,141 --> 01:04:15,644 Down there is a small place 1311 01:04:15,727 --> 01:04:18,276 called Primosten where we shot "Dead Reckoning," 1312 01:04:18,355 --> 01:04:20,528 later entitled "The Deep," 1313 01:04:20,607 --> 01:04:22,280 with Lawrence Harvey, Jeanne Moreau, 1314 01:04:22,359 --> 01:04:23,906 Orson Welles, myself. 1315 01:04:23,985 --> 01:04:25,032 Jeanne Moreau 1316 01:04:25,111 --> 01:04:27,113 I was pretty girl when I was young. 1317 01:04:27,197 --> 01:04:29,916 No woman ever looked at me like this. 1318 01:04:29,991 --> 01:04:32,790 He said, "Jeanne, I don't want to- 1319 01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:35,292 "I don't want to be rude, but you're not the age 1320 01:04:35,372 --> 01:04:37,340 of playing a young bride. " 1321 01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,463 Look, I don't care what these people are 1322 01:04:39,542 --> 01:04:41,089 going to think of me. 1323 01:04:41,169 --> 01:04:42,512 I'm not in the movie business, 1324 01:04:42,587 --> 01:04:45,136 I'm 72 years old, I want to have a farm, 1325 01:04:45,215 --> 01:04:46,842 I dream of chickens, literally, 1326 01:04:46,925 --> 01:04:49,098 and have a donkey and a dog and so on, 1327 01:04:49,177 --> 01:04:52,021 so I'm going to tell anything that comes into my mind. 1328 01:04:52,097 --> 01:04:56,193 I was in the elevator, and Polanski stepped in, 1329 01:04:56,267 --> 01:04:58,144 and he said to me, "You know, 1330 01:04:58,228 --> 01:05:00,822 "I was thinking of using Orson, 1331 01:05:00,897 --> 01:05:03,446 "but I hear that 1332 01:05:03,525 --> 01:05:08,201 "he's late on the set, that he's difficult. 1333 01:05:08,279 --> 01:05:10,247 I'm not very sure. " 1334 01:05:10,323 --> 01:05:11,870 I said, "If you are not sure, 1335 01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:13,327 don't engage him. " 1336 01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:16,789 He would have been the happiest man in the world 1337 01:05:16,871 --> 01:05:19,875 if Geraldine, whatever her name is, 1338 01:05:19,958 --> 01:05:21,505 came and said, "Orson, 1339 01:05:21,584 --> 01:05:23,586 this is your son," you know? 1340 01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:26,139 I hear that the guy is very good-looking 1341 01:05:26,214 --> 01:05:28,342 on top of everything, it would be wonderful. 1342 01:05:30,969 --> 01:05:32,312 They were showing Magnificent Ambersons“ 1343 01:05:32,387 --> 01:05:33,934 in the middle of the night. 1344 01:05:34,013 --> 01:05:36,061 I see the light, 1345 01:05:36,141 --> 01:05:38,360 I go to the living room, 1346 01:05:38,435 --> 01:05:40,233 and, just before I open the door, 1347 01:05:40,311 --> 01:05:43,155 I see his reflection in the mirror, 1348 01:05:43,231 --> 01:05:45,950 and I see him crying. 1349 01:05:46,025 --> 01:05:48,278 And I don't open the door. 1350 01:05:49,571 --> 01:05:51,994 What's the use to cry? I do cry enough for Orson. 1351 01:05:52,073 --> 01:05:54,667 I cry... Too often. 1352 01:06:00,081 --> 01:06:02,755 But I also smile, 1353 01:06:02,834 --> 01:06:07,260 because I'm so happy that I have known him. 1354 01:06:08,882 --> 01:06:11,305 I think man is a crazy animal. 1355 01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:15,263 I think we are also- 1356 01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:17,474 I think we're also marvelous people, 1357 01:06:17,557 --> 01:06:20,811 divine in our potentialities. 1358 01:06:22,061 --> 01:06:23,438 You see, there you are. 1359 01:06:23,521 --> 01:06:25,319 You can say anything with passion and get a hand. 1360 01:06:32,071 --> 01:06:35,245 If you're going to try to finance movies and live, 1361 01:06:35,325 --> 01:06:37,498 you have to earn your money somehow. 1362 01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:41,957 Is there any man with a decent regard for human life 1363 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,417 and the slightest bit of heart 1364 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:48,051 who doesn't understand it? 1365 01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:50,928 I would have sold my soul to play the Godfather, 1366 01:06:51,007 --> 01:06:54,307 but I never get those parts offered to me-. 1367 01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:58,773 20 million years ago, 1368 01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:02,523 an ape-like creature inhabited the Earth. 1369 01:07:04,729 --> 01:07:07,027 I'm a kin actor, maybe a bad one. 1370 01:07:07,106 --> 01:07:09,029 They weren't necessarily the best actor, 1371 01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:11,202 they were the actor who played the king. 1372 01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:13,325 - Aah! - Aah! 1373 01:07:13,404 --> 01:07:16,499 Mike Nichols knows how to deal with actors. 1374 01:07:16,574 --> 01:07:18,451 Orson would turn to Mike, 1375 01:07:18,535 --> 01:07:20,287 as, I guess, he did to every director 1376 01:07:20,370 --> 01:07:22,247 and say things like, 1377 01:07:22,330 --> 01:07:24,003 "You're really gonna do that shot 1378 01:07:24,082 --> 01:07:25,959 when you know you're not gonna need it?" 1379 01:07:26,042 --> 01:07:29,262 Knucklehead fool! 1380 01:07:29,337 --> 01:07:30,884 You empty-headed yokel! 1381 01:07:32,590 --> 01:07:33,887 You say, "My God, I'm in a scene 1382 01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:35,640 "with Orson Welles, there's an actual 1383 01:07:35,718 --> 01:07:37,265 "piece of film in my life 1384 01:07:37,345 --> 01:07:39,347 that has Orson Welles in it. " 1385 01:07:39,556 --> 01:07:41,604 I don't want the men to pay any attention to me, 1386 01:07:41,683 --> 01:07:43,481 just carry on as usual. 1387 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,107 Don't pay any attention to Dad, 1388 01:07:45,186 --> 01:07:46,233 just carry on as usual. 1389 01:07:46,312 --> 01:07:47,404 Will you clam up? 1390 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,574 Money, money, money. 1391 01:07:49,649 --> 01:07:51,617 I never concern myself with this madness. 1392 01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:55,622 There's this complete sort of self-knowledge 1393 01:07:55,697 --> 01:07:58,075 and almost the arrogance of an athlete, like, 1394 01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:01,001 the ownership of his body on camera 1395 01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:03,626 before he got to be, you know, the size of a Buick. 1396 01:08:03,705 --> 01:08:06,959 My salads are... a bit complicated. 1397 01:08:07,041 --> 01:08:09,169 But he would just slice through. 1398 01:08:09,252 --> 01:08:10,504 Dinner, ho, dinner! 1399 01:08:12,547 --> 01:08:14,015 Would you take this away, please, 1400 01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:15,683 and... and bring me 1401 01:08:15,758 --> 01:08:17,601 The steak au poivre, thanks a lot. 1402 01:08:17,677 --> 01:08:20,556 When I watched Orson Welles eat, 1403 01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:22,390 it was like... 1404 01:08:22,473 --> 01:08:24,726 somebody making love to the food. 1405 01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:26,482 He really loved to eat, 1406 01:08:27,312 --> 01:08:29,189 and you could see, his eyes lit up. 1407 01:08:29,272 --> 01:08:31,149 When he put that forkful in, 1408 01:08:31,232 --> 01:08:34,031 and his whole face was like a sunshine. 1409 01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:35,453 You think he'd remember the lunch. 1410 01:08:35,528 --> 01:08:38,782 There was a marvelous mousse. 1411 01:08:38,865 --> 01:08:41,869 Got any donuts or sweet rolls? 1412 01:08:41,951 --> 01:08:44,329 And he could describe every dish, 1413 01:08:44,412 --> 01:08:45,664 the way it tasted. 1414 01:08:45,747 --> 01:08:47,590 Schwartzw�lder Torte... 1415 01:08:47,665 --> 01:08:49,008 Kugel... 1416 01:08:52,045 --> 01:08:53,342 Caf� cr�me Torte. 1417 01:08:53,421 --> 01:08:55,549 Obviously, when you looked at him and said, you know, 1418 01:08:55,632 --> 01:08:57,760 this is not a guy who is on a diet. 1419 01:09:00,678 --> 01:09:01,930 ...und Sachertorte. 1420 01:09:02,013 --> 01:09:04,482 How sweet it was- 1421 01:09:04,557 --> 01:09:08,528 Even when he lost some idea of himself physically... 1422 01:09:08,603 --> 01:09:10,947 Overweight, me? 1423 01:09:11,022 --> 01:09:13,491 The words still had the same kind of precision 1424 01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:14,658 that his body once had. 1425 01:09:14,734 --> 01:09:17,487 More... 1426 01:09:17,570 --> 01:09:19,538 Are you going to help me? 1427 01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:25,704 Have I your support, or have I not? 1428 01:09:25,787 --> 01:09:28,085 No, Your Grace. 1429 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:30,087 I'm not going to help you. 1430 01:09:32,877 --> 01:09:36,507 Then good night, Master More. 1431 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,267 You have to wait quite a long time 1432 01:09:44,347 --> 01:09:46,315 before Welles makes his masterpiece, 1433 01:09:46,391 --> 01:09:48,940 which in my view and the view of many other people 1434 01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:51,988 is Falstaff, the "Chimes at Midnight," 1435 01:09:52,063 --> 01:09:54,316 which is, to me, one of the great, 1436 01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:57,243 great achievements of filmmaking in the 20th century. 1437 01:09:57,318 --> 01:10:00,788 Falstaff! Good night. 1438 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:04,709 Now comes in the sweetest morsel of the night. 1439 01:10:04,784 --> 01:10:06,081 And we must dance. 1440 01:10:07,078 --> 01:10:09,422 I saw it three times in a row in one night 1441 01:10:09,497 --> 01:10:11,795 because I thought I might never see it again, 1442 01:10:11,874 --> 01:10:14,548 so you had intellectuals from the University of Chicago 1443 01:10:14,627 --> 01:10:15,879 and you had winos off the street, 1444 01:10:15,962 --> 01:10:18,010 and they all loved the film. 1445 01:10:18,089 --> 01:10:19,932 This chair shall be the state 1446 01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:22,226 and this cushion... my crown. 1447 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,149 Welles had, by now, mastered the art 1448 01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:34,151 of making independent films, 1449 01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:36,779 and making them in the way that he wanted to make them 1450 01:10:36,858 --> 01:10:38,610 in this kind of improvised way. 1451 01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:41,871 Although he had a script, of course, for it, 1452 01:10:41,946 --> 01:10:44,324 but he didn't stick very closely to the script. 1453 01:10:44,407 --> 01:10:46,660 Unless, of course, it was Shakespeare's words. 1454 01:10:46,743 --> 01:10:50,213 What is honor? Air. 1455 01:10:50,288 --> 01:10:52,507 A trim reckoning! Who hath it? 1456 01:10:52,582 --> 01:10:55,756 He that died 0' Wednesday. Doth he feel it? No. 1457 01:10:55,835 --> 01:10:57,587 'Tis insensible then? Yea, to the dead. 1458 01:10:57,670 --> 01:10:59,923 But will it not live with the living? 1459 01:11:00,006 --> 01:11:01,679 No. Why? 1460 01:11:01,758 --> 01:11:03,180 The traction will not suffering. 1461 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:04,852 Therefore, I'll none of it. 1462 01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:38,090 Violence always has been part of our story. 1463 01:11:38,169 --> 01:11:40,012 It is, you know, I've seen it 1464 01:11:40,087 --> 01:11:42,681 in my own lifetime long before this period, 1465 01:11:42,757 --> 01:11:45,636 and we certainly read about it in history. 1466 01:11:45,718 --> 01:11:48,642 That's the way we won the country and stole it away 1467 01:11:48,721 --> 01:11:50,689 from the Indians and all the rest of it. 1468 01:11:58,231 --> 01:12:00,780 If I wanted to, uh, to get into heaven 1469 01:12:00,858 --> 01:12:03,361 on the basis of one movie, 1470 01:12:03,444 --> 01:12:05,572 that's the one I would offer up, 1471 01:12:05,655 --> 01:12:09,250 because it is, to me, the least flawed. 1472 01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:10,497 Let me put it that way. 1473 01:12:10,576 --> 01:12:13,796 I banish thee, on pain of death, 1474 01:12:13,871 --> 01:12:17,216 as I have done the rest for my misleaders, 1475 01:12:17,291 --> 01:12:22,889 not to come near our person by 10 mile. 1476 01:12:22,964 --> 01:12:24,386 "Chimes at Midnight" is true, 1477 01:12:24,465 --> 01:12:26,263 through and through and through, 1478 01:12:26,342 --> 01:12:28,470 and is profound and is movin 1479 01:12:28,553 --> 01:12:31,056 and contains an absolute essence of Shakespeare 1480 01:12:31,138 --> 01:12:35,018 and an absolute essence of Orson Welles. 1481 01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:38,062 Falstaff? 1482 01:12:38,145 --> 01:12:41,570 Falstaff is dead. 1483 01:12:55,621 --> 01:12:59,421 It's human to the core. 1484 01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:03,801 Jesus, the days that we have seen. 1485 01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:11,763 The Munich Film Museum 1486 01:13:11,846 --> 01:13:15,601 is part of the municipal museum. 1487 01:13:15,683 --> 01:13:18,527 We are very much caring 1488 01:13:18,603 --> 01:13:21,607 to keep the legacy of Orson Welles. 1489 01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:25,659 All the material Orson had 1490 01:13:25,735 --> 01:13:27,453 was shipped to Munich. 1491 01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:32,950 Sometimes I try to imagine 1492 01:13:33,034 --> 01:13:37,255 Orson having different bedrooms in different motels and hotels, 1493 01:13:37,330 --> 01:13:40,800 and the doors to this room, bedroom is locked, 1494 01:13:40,875 --> 01:13:43,924 and under the bed are hidden, 1495 01:13:44,003 --> 01:13:46,756 you know, boxes and boxes of film. 1496 01:13:50,009 --> 01:13:53,559 Some believe these films look more amateurish 1497 01:13:53,638 --> 01:13:56,141 because they are not really Hollywood productions. 1498 01:13:56,223 --> 01:13:58,476 Many others see him as a hero 1499 01:13:58,559 --> 01:14:01,062 of the independent filmmaker. 1500 01:14:01,145 --> 01:14:03,864 The problem is only that, uh, 1501 01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:06,193 few of these films were really finished, 1502 01:14:06,275 --> 01:14:10,451 that he still was working and working and working on them. 1503 01:14:10,529 --> 01:14:11,997 Pellegrina's dead. 1504 01:14:15,451 --> 01:14:18,250 I had no chance to say good-bye. 1505 01:14:18,329 --> 01:14:20,673 Will you do that for me? 1506 01:14:20,748 --> 01:14:24,378 Everybody who is an intellectual artist 1507 01:14:24,460 --> 01:14:26,804 starts on many things 1508 01:14:26,879 --> 01:14:29,257 and sometimes doesn't complete them. 1509 01:14:29,340 --> 01:14:32,514 Since it's my own little picture and I put my own money on it, 1510 01:14:32,593 --> 01:14:35,096 I don't know why they don't bug authors 1511 01:14:35,179 --> 01:14:37,398 and say, "When are you gonna finish Nelly, 1512 01:14:37,473 --> 01:14:39,771 that novel you started 10 years ago?" 1513 01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:42,444 If the wolf is not really at the door, 1514 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,490 it's a big temptation to say, "Well, this isn't- 1515 01:14:45,564 --> 01:14:48,363 this isn't my best, I'm gonna put it away. " 1516 01:14:48,442 --> 01:14:49,944 A newly-wedded couple 1517 01:14:50,027 --> 01:14:51,825 are here on their small yacht 1518 01:14:51,904 --> 01:14:54,453 cruising up the west coast of Africa 1519 01:14:54,532 --> 01:14:56,626 on their way to the Mediterranean. 1520 01:14:56,701 --> 01:14:58,203 Out in these waters, 1521 01:14:58,285 --> 01:15:01,129 they might expect to be very much alone, 1522 01:15:01,205 --> 01:15:03,674 but there's someone else out there. 1523 01:15:06,168 --> 01:15:10,514 He said once, I'm not going to call Don Quixote "Don Quixote". 1524 01:15:10,589 --> 01:15:13,559 I'm going to call it When Are You Going to Finish Don Quixote?" 1525 01:15:17,388 --> 01:15:19,766 Stanley Kubrick had projects that he never completed. 1526 01:15:19,849 --> 01:15:22,978 The difference is, Welles actually got footage in the can, 1527 01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:24,858 as opposed to a number of projects by people 1528 01:15:24,937 --> 01:15:28,532 in much better financial position or industry position, 1529 01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:30,735 never even getting them off the round. 1530 01:15:30,818 --> 01:15:33,537 Are you happy when it's all done and cut 1531 01:15:33,612 --> 01:15:36,240 and goes out to be printed and into the movie houses? 1532 01:15:36,323 --> 01:15:38,166 No. 1533 01:15:38,242 --> 01:15:40,836 No, because you always hope you can make it better. 1534 01:15:40,911 --> 01:15:42,959 I don't think it's a... 1535 01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:45,087 at all any failure to want to finish 1536 01:15:45,166 --> 01:15:46,964 or be a fear of finishing or whatever. 1537 01:15:47,043 --> 01:15:48,886 That sounds like some kind of bizarre sexual malady. 1538 01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:53,348 I don't know why he didn't finish it, 1539 01:15:53,424 --> 01:15:55,597 and I never asked him. 1540 01:15:55,676 --> 01:15:58,099 But we have an unbelievable body of work, 1541 01:15:58,179 --> 01:16:00,602 including the greatest film on Shakespeare: 1542 01:16:00,681 --> 01:16:02,934 "Falstaff," "Chimes at Midnight," 1543 01:16:03,017 --> 01:16:05,736 the short color film "Immortal Story," 1544 01:16:05,811 --> 01:16:07,688 one of the most brilliantly shot films ever. 1545 01:16:09,815 --> 01:16:13,240 Film after film was phenomenal. 1546 01:16:34,173 --> 01:16:36,596 The studios had lost interest in him, 1547 01:16:36,675 --> 01:16:39,929 and he could put together his projects in a more European way, 1548 01:16:40,012 --> 01:16:43,391 financially, getting bits of money from here and there. 1549 01:16:43,474 --> 01:16:46,648 So it was comfortable for him to be in Europe during that time. 1550 01:16:48,854 --> 01:16:51,858 The way I figure is that you've only got so much luck, 1551 01:16:51,941 --> 01:16:54,535 and it doesn't matter when it happens, 1552 01:16:54,610 --> 01:16:56,738 and I was incredibly lucky. 1553 01:17:04,328 --> 01:17:05,329 Salud. 1554 01:17:08,082 --> 01:17:09,459 So the central figure in this story 1555 01:17:09,542 --> 01:17:10,759 is the fellow with, you know, 1556 01:17:10,835 --> 01:17:12,087 who can hardly see through 1557 01:17:12,169 --> 01:17:13,842 the bush of the hair on his chest. 1558 01:17:15,131 --> 01:17:17,099 Mr. Welles! Mr. Welles, please! 1559 01:17:18,968 --> 01:17:20,470 Thank you! 1560 01:17:20,553 --> 01:17:23,352 Oh, I'm gain to go on being faithful to my girl-. 1561 01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:24,522 I love her. 1562 01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:32,361 In school, you should be making movies. 1563 01:17:34,066 --> 01:17:36,660 Not letting the professor tell you about 1564 01:17:36,735 --> 01:17:38,863 Eisenstein and D.W. Griffith. 1565 01:17:50,958 --> 01:17:52,801 'Cause up to that time, it was the seamless film, 1566 01:17:52,877 --> 01:17:55,005 in a way, um, the hidden camera. 1567 01:17:55,087 --> 01:17:57,715 The obtr- the camera that you couldn't tell was there. 1568 01:17:57,798 --> 01:18:00,301 So Welles was the one to really break open, 1569 01:18:00,384 --> 01:18:02,227 open up the Pandora's box. 1570 01:18:02,303 --> 01:18:06,524 In a funny way, I guess, picking up where silent films left off. 1571 01:18:10,644 --> 01:18:13,397 Every single... 1572 01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:15,528 not just every scene, 1573 01:18:15,608 --> 01:18:18,327 but every shot has an idea. 1574 01:18:18,402 --> 01:18:20,325 There's a concept 1575 01:18:20,404 --> 01:18:24,284 and an idea being executed at every second. 1576 01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:31,548 Welles stands kind of above everybody's work. 1577 01:18:31,624 --> 01:18:34,423 I think every filmmaker has some relation with Welles, 1578 01:18:34,501 --> 01:18:38,256 if nothing else, you know, he created the air we breathe 1579 01:18:38,339 --> 01:18:40,387 in that regard, you know? 1580 01:18:40,466 --> 01:18:42,685 He's sort of the patron saint of indie filmmakers. 1581 01:18:49,016 --> 01:18:50,268 So much of what he did 1582 01:18:50,351 --> 01:18:51,352 came with quotation marks around it. 1583 01:18:51,435 --> 01:18:52,937 Postmodern. 1584 01:18:53,020 --> 01:18:55,614 And I think about just the beginning of "F for Fake. " 1585 01:18:55,689 --> 01:18:58,693 It's just all about saying, "This is what you're seeing 1586 01:18:58,776 --> 01:19:01,700 "and this is what I'm doing, and this is what you're seeing, 1587 01:19:01,779 --> 01:19:03,076 but this is what I'm doing. " 1588 01:19:03,155 --> 01:19:06,785 That sort of mirror-on-a-mirror effect. 1589 01:19:09,078 --> 01:19:11,456 It was a pretty great experience to start making 1590 01:19:11,538 --> 01:19:14,257 yet another movie with a storyline 1591 01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:16,335 rotten with coincidence. 1592 01:19:16,418 --> 01:19:20,548 For instance, that the author of "Fake," a book about a faker, 1593 01:19:20,631 --> 01:19:23,180 was himself a faker and the author of a fake 1594 01:19:23,259 --> 01:19:26,012 to end all fakes. 1595 01:19:26,095 --> 01:19:28,689 During the next hour, everything you'll hear from us 1596 01:19:28,764 --> 01:19:31,688 is really true and based on solid facts. 1597 01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:35,567 Not only are we aware of the edits as they go by, 1598 01:19:35,646 --> 01:19:39,241 but he's showing the editing process at the same time. 1599 01:19:39,316 --> 01:19:43,913 It's like watching a talented juggler do his job. 1600 01:19:43,988 --> 01:19:46,616 This is a film about trickery. 1601 01:19:46,699 --> 01:19:48,872 Fraud.! 1602 01:19:48,951 --> 01:19:51,329 About lies. 1603 01:19:51,412 --> 01:19:53,380 Tell it by the fireside 1604 01:19:53,455 --> 01:19:55,583 or in a marketplace or in a movie. 1605 01:19:59,128 --> 01:20:03,429 Editing is cinema in a certain sense. 1606 01:20:03,507 --> 01:20:06,135 Because everything is broken into bits, 1607 01:20:06,218 --> 01:20:08,687 you can have a great deal of invention. 1608 01:20:13,017 --> 01:20:16,362 I did promise that for one hour, 1609 01:20:16,437 --> 01:20:18,360 I'd tell you only the truth. 1610 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,318 That hour, ladies and gentlemen, is over. 1611 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,121 For the past 17 minutes, I've been lying my head off. 1612 01:20:30,451 --> 01:20:34,831 That kind of self-awareness is great for art. 1613 01:20:35,914 --> 01:20:38,758 He's part of that movement that includes Picasso 1614 01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:40,677 and Duke Ellington, all those artists 1615 01:20:40,753 --> 01:20:44,383 who were aware in a way that artists had not been before. 1616 01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:47,684 Our works are spared, 1617 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,888 some of them for a few decades, 1618 01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:52,098 or a millennium or two. 1619 01:20:52,181 --> 01:20:54,730 The treasures. And the fakes. 1620 01:20:56,518 --> 01:20:58,816 Our songs. 1621 01:20:58,896 --> 01:21:04,403 Our songs will all be silenced. 1622 01:21:04,485 --> 01:21:06,738 But what of it? 1623 01:21:06,820 --> 01:21:09,369 Go on singing. 1624 01:21:17,831 --> 01:21:20,960 Wow, how are you? 1625 01:21:21,043 --> 01:21:22,920 Orson Welles, ladies and gentlemen. 1626 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,507 Thank you. 1627 01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:28,809 Thank you very much. 1628 01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:30,306 - I... - Thank you. 1629 01:21:30,386 --> 01:21:31,729 Thank you all very much. 1630 01:21:31,804 --> 01:21:33,647 I don't believe this, this is... 1631 01:21:33,722 --> 01:21:34,939 - Who is that? - That's the, uh, 1632 01:21:35,015 --> 01:21:36,016 That's our director, Mr. Welles. 1633 01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,522 - That... is a director? - Yeah. 1634 01:21:40,104 --> 01:21:42,027 Heh heh. What? 1635 01:21:42,106 --> 01:21:43,653 I'm on my mark. 1636 01:21:45,109 --> 01:21:47,828 Yes, always. 1637 01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:49,246 Move your camera. 1638 01:22:00,791 --> 01:22:03,715 He came back in the late '60s. 1639 01:22:03,794 --> 01:22:06,343 Films were beginning to be made in a different kind of a way. 1640 01:22:06,422 --> 01:22:08,299 The money guys didn't trust him, 1641 01:22:08,382 --> 01:22:11,306 and they had good reason not to trust him. 1642 01:22:11,385 --> 01:22:14,935 It doesn't matter how great the material is. 1643 01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:17,482 Ultimately, it has to... 1644 01:22:17,558 --> 01:22:20,903 It has to pay off for somebody. 1645 01:22:20,978 --> 01:22:24,323 We will sell no wine before its time. 1646 01:22:26,024 --> 01:22:29,153 We know a little place in the American far west 1647 01:22:29,236 --> 01:22:34,037 where Charlie Briggs chops up the finest prairie-fed beef and takes-... 1648 01:22:34,116 --> 01:22:36,289 This is a lot of shit, you know this? 1649 01:22:36,368 --> 01:22:39,042 Come on, fellas, you're losing your heads. 1650 01:22:40,581 --> 01:22:42,083 They all wanted to meet him, 1651 01:22:42,166 --> 01:22:43,713 they all wanted to have lunch with him, 1652 01:22:43,792 --> 01:22:45,385 they all celebrated him. 1653 01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:46,804 And then somehow, you know, 1654 01:22:46,879 --> 01:22:48,847 this man is not gonna be predictable. 1655 01:22:48,922 --> 01:22:51,550 Here's a scene from one film 1656 01:22:51,633 --> 01:22:53,010 that Orson is just finishing, 1657 01:22:53,093 --> 01:22:55,642 called "The Other Side of the Wind. " 1658 01:22:55,721 --> 01:22:57,314 I must say, it's a fascinating scene. 1659 01:22:57,389 --> 01:22:58,732 It's about a celebration 1660 01:22:58,807 --> 01:23:04,359 in honor of a famous movie director who is not Orson. 1661 01:23:04,438 --> 01:23:06,111 I get a phone call. 1662 01:23:06,190 --> 01:23:08,818 "Orson wants you to do his picture. " 1663 01:23:08,901 --> 01:23:10,574 I said, "Orson Welles? I don't know Orson Welles. 1664 01:23:10,652 --> 01:23:11,995 "He doesn't know me. 1665 01:23:12,112 --> 01:23:14,240 "L mean, I know 'Citizen Kane' is the- 1666 01:23:14,323 --> 01:23:17,247 "probably the best picture ever made, but why is- 1667 01:23:17,326 --> 01:23:18,953 Are you fucking around with me?" 1668 01:23:23,624 --> 01:23:24,876 I knocked at the door, 1669 01:23:24,958 --> 01:23:28,963 and I figure some lackey is gonna open the door. 1670 01:23:29,046 --> 01:23:31,469 The door opens and it's... 1671 01:23:31,548 --> 01:23:33,721 "Oh ho ho! Oh ho ho ho ho!" 1672 01:23:34,885 --> 01:23:37,729 "Oh ho ho! Ah ha ha ha ha. 1673 01:23:37,804 --> 01:23:40,648 "Paul Mazursky, come on in! 1674 01:23:40,724 --> 01:23:44,399 I'm making a film called The Other Side of the Wind". 1675 01:23:44,478 --> 01:23:46,276 We're going to shoot it without a script. 1676 01:23:46,355 --> 01:23:47,982 Without a script? 1677 01:23:48,065 --> 01:23:50,944 We're gonna make the picture as though it were a documentary. 1678 01:23:51,026 --> 01:23:53,120 The actors are going to be improvising. 1679 01:23:53,195 --> 01:23:57,416 He started in 1970 and he worked on it through his passing in '85. 1680 01:23:57,491 --> 01:24:01,166 I never saw Orson sleep. 1681 01:24:01,245 --> 01:24:03,498 It was a stop-and-start situation. 1682 01:24:03,580 --> 01:24:06,754 It seemed to me that every time Orson got a little bit of money, 1683 01:24:06,833 --> 01:24:09,757 he would bring the cast back and start shooting again. 1684 01:24:09,836 --> 01:24:12,180 I'm still confused about 1685 01:24:12,256 --> 01:24:15,351 the area of the magician, as director. 1686 01:24:15,425 --> 01:24:17,803 This is crap! This is intellectual bullshit! 1687 01:24:17,886 --> 01:24:19,934 When I tell you that my partner 1688 01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:23,392 is the brother-in-law of the late Shah of Iran, 1689 01:24:23,475 --> 01:24:25,193 you will understand why we're having 1690 01:24:25,269 --> 01:24:26,862 a little legal difficulty. 1691 01:24:26,937 --> 01:24:28,860 He owes me $25. 1692 01:24:28,939 --> 01:24:31,783 I sort of felt that we would just 1693 01:24:31,858 --> 01:24:33,860 keep making the movie until he died. 1694 01:24:38,532 --> 01:24:42,082 Let us raise our cups, then, 1695 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:47,508 standing as some of us do on opposite ends of the river, 1696 01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:52,430 and drink together, to what really matters to us all... 1697 01:24:52,504 --> 01:24:56,429 to our crazy and beloved profession. 1698 01:24:56,508 --> 01:25:02,332 To the movies, to good movies, to every possible kind. 1699 01:25:02,806 --> 01:25:05,355 There is this terrible consolation of being 1700 01:25:05,434 --> 01:25:07,152 40 years ahead of your time. 1701 01:25:07,227 --> 01:25:09,571 I wish I'd be on time sometimes. 1702 01:25:09,646 --> 01:25:13,492 The night he won the Oscar, the special Oscar, 1703 01:25:13,567 --> 01:25:16,366 and he had asked John Huston to pick it up for him. 1704 01:25:16,445 --> 01:25:21,167 "Genius" is a word that must be used very sparingly, 1705 01:25:21,241 --> 01:25:23,585 especially in this world of films. 1706 01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:25,754 He said, "I'm- I'm not gonna go. " 1707 01:25:25,829 --> 01:25:27,126 I said, "Why not?" and he said, 1708 01:25:27,205 --> 01:25:28,752 "They're not gonna get that out of me. " 1709 01:25:28,832 --> 01:25:30,129 On my way back to Ireland, 1710 01:25:30,208 --> 01:25:33,257 I'll stop in Spain and give him this. 1711 01:25:33,337 --> 01:25:36,261 We were sitting at the Beverly Hills Hotel, 1712 01:25:36,340 --> 01:25:38,388 watching the Oscars, and Orson says, 1713 01:25:38,467 --> 01:25:40,344 "Yeah, come on right over, John!" 1714 01:25:41,887 --> 01:25:43,480 You celebrated a big birthday, didn't you? 1715 01:25:43,555 --> 01:25:45,353 I didn't celebrate it, I just had it. 1716 01:25:46,767 --> 01:25:48,861 I used to pretend it was my birthday 1717 01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:51,108 when I took a girl out to dinner, 1718 01:25:51,188 --> 01:25:53,941 and then I'd have the waiter bring a cake in 1719 01:25:54,024 --> 01:25:55,651 and sing "Happy Birthday," 1720 01:25:55,734 --> 01:25:58,533 and I'd use that as an excuse to extend the evening. 1721 01:25:58,612 --> 01:26:00,034 Aha... 1722 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,876 I have a sentimental inclination toward hope. 1723 01:26:07,954 --> 01:26:10,833 I believe in bravery. 1724 01:26:10,916 --> 01:26:12,293 Worship it. 1725 01:26:12,376 --> 01:26:14,344 To me, Orson 1726 01:26:14,419 --> 01:26:19,220 is so much like a destitute king. 1727 01:26:19,299 --> 01:26:21,848 On this earth, 1728 01:26:21,927 --> 01:26:26,182 there's no kingdom that is good enough 1729 01:26:26,264 --> 01:26:28,107 for Orson Welles. 1730 01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:30,026 But you feel wonderful, don't you? 1731 01:26:30,102 --> 01:26:31,649 Oh, sure! 1732 01:26:33,438 --> 01:26:36,988 As it must to all men, death came to Orson Welles. 1733 01:26:37,067 --> 01:26:40,742 That, a paraphrase borrowed from his own film, "Citizen Kane. " 1734 01:26:40,821 --> 01:26:43,165 Orson Welles told me about a lunch he had recently 1735 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,663 with director-producer Steven Spielberg, 1736 01:26:45,742 --> 01:26:48,245 who had just purchased the famous "Rosebud" sled 1737 01:26:48,328 --> 01:26:52,083 from "Citizen Kane" for $45,000. 1738 01:26:52,165 --> 01:26:54,918 But I said, "We burnt the sled, Steven. " 1739 01:26:56,461 --> 01:27:00,182 That's why we enjoy life, is that we know it's got to end. 1740 01:27:00,257 --> 01:27:03,227 Orson Welles was 70. 1741 01:27:10,016 --> 01:27:11,393 After my father died, 1742 01:27:11,476 --> 01:27:14,776 I got a call from my half-sister Beatrice. 1743 01:27:14,855 --> 01:27:16,277 She and her mother Paola 1744 01:27:16,356 --> 01:27:19,360 were arranging a funeral in Los Angeles, 1745 01:27:19,443 --> 01:27:23,664 and I was really devastated by the place where it was held, 1746 01:27:23,739 --> 01:27:26,743 which was like a horrible motel room. 1747 01:27:26,825 --> 01:27:31,752 Nothing had been done, I felt, to truly honor my father. 1748 01:27:35,292 --> 01:27:37,294 He didn't want to be cremated. 1749 01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:39,630 He said, "I took so much from this earth, 1750 01:27:39,713 --> 01:27:42,637 I should give it back, at least, something-" 1751 01:27:42,716 --> 01:27:45,390 And, um, they didn't do it. 1752 01:27:56,604 --> 01:28:01,702 I would like to do something which would leave... 1753 01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:05,531 at least... 1754 01:28:05,614 --> 01:28:08,993 the art form concerned or the profession 1755 01:28:09,075 --> 01:28:12,079 better for my having done it... 1756 01:28:14,289 --> 01:28:20,092 ...to use this medium for something except entertaining. 1757 01:28:22,172 --> 01:28:24,220 I'd like to have been more useful in the world, 1758 01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:25,846 and I hope I can be. It's, uh... 1759 01:28:25,926 --> 01:28:29,055 You finally get to a point where, uh... 1760 01:28:29,137 --> 01:28:32,186 art for art's sake doesn't seem a good enough flag 1761 01:28:32,265 --> 01:28:34,814 to be marching under sometimes. 1762 01:28:34,893 --> 01:28:36,987 What's a better flag? 1763 01:28:37,062 --> 01:28:40,316 Well, you've got to believe in something bigger than yourself. 1764 01:28:40,398 --> 01:28:41,945 Oh, we've run out of film. 1765 01:28:43,235 --> 01:28:44,578 - You had me- - I must tell you- 1766 01:28:44,653 --> 01:28:45,825 I had me riveted! 1767 01:28:47,948 --> 01:28:50,497 I loved every- Don't cut a word out of that! 133732

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