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All right. Let's get started.
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Okay. Yeah,
I think I need to
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fix my eyeliner
a little bit though.
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♪
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Take two
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It's really hard to separate
how the Playboy world
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affected how I feel
about the way I look
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and just
what's authentic to me.
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People might think,
"Oh, you must have felt great
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'cause you were on TV
and you were famous."
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They think that I should
have known
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exactly what
I was getting into.
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Like, "Whoa, you're stepping
into a cult there."
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But I absolutely did not.
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In my early 20s,
I didn't realize
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that getting into the Playboy
world was a dangerous choice.
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My name is Hugh Hefner.
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I'm editor/publisher
of "Playboy" magazine.
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When Hugh Hefner
was just 27,
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he fashioned himself
and "Playboy"
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as the face of
sexual liberation.
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Playboy is one of
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the most famous
brand names in the world.
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I would like to be
remembered as somebody
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who played some positive part
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in changing the social,
sexual values of my time.
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I believe that Hef pulled
one over on the whole world.
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The fantasy of Playboy
that he created
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did not allow for
the consent of the women.
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When it came to
Hefner's buddies,
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you had to keep
those secrets quiet.
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What have you got for free?
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When you get someone
that powerful,
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anything could happen.
Anything.
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The people
who were really there,
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they're the ones
who know the real truth.
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I want to be a voice
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for the women that suffered
the most at his hands.
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♪ Come on-a my house
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♪ To my house
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♪ I'm gonna give you candy
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♪ Hey
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♪ Come on-a my house,
my house, a-come on ♪
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This was the episode
where, when I saw it,
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I thought I was so fat in it
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because I always felt like
I had to watch,
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like, every tiny little thing
about my appearance.
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I was one of Hugh Hefner's
multiple girlfriends,
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and I starred in a show called
"The Girls Next Door."
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I feel like,
on "Girls Next Door,"
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Hef was portrayed
as like a kindly grandpa.
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That's not how he is.
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It would make me so angry
how manipulative he was.
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Hef controlled
every aspect of our life.
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And after I left the Mansion,
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I can't really explain to you
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how strong the feeling
was in me
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that I needed
to get my story out.
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She has a new book out
that is making waves
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and upsetting Hef.
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It's called
"
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Curious Adventures
and Cautionary Tales
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of a Former Playboy Bunny."
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You know, I think when
I came out with my story,
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a lot of people were
really hostile toward it.
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They would say, "Oh, you're
talking all this [bleep].
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You were so happy there.
You loved being there."
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Because so many people who are
part of that Playboy world,
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they don't want anything
tarnishing
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like that golden bubble
in their life.
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I knew Hugh Hefner
for 44 years.
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He was the one
that walked me down the aisle
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when I got married to Joel.
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I had 27 years
at the Mansion.
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God love Holly, I hope
she has a wonderful life.
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But what she did in her book
was a complete affront to Hef
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and everything he stood for.
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She seemed like
she really liked him,
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that she really
cared about him.
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I don't know why she would
write a book like that.
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People want to villainize
women in these situations.
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But I had so much belief
in myself before I met Hef.
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And then it was just shattered.
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I want people to know why
I felt like I couldn't leave
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and why I chose to get in that
situation in the first place.
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We Playmates have
the secret to happiness.
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The secret that brings you
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the world's most
beautiful women.
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And their outrageous
video--free.
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Free?
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Is this like a lamp
you rub or something?
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No, it's Playboy.
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Growing up,
they used to have,
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believe it or not,
Playboy commercials on TV,
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and they would show videos
of these women
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and they were always,
like, so flattering.
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And I was like, "Wow, I want
to look like that."
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Ever since I was a kid,
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I've had a really
difficult time
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connecting with other people.
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I grew up in a very,
very small town in Alaska,
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basically, you know, living
in the woods at certain points.
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Every couple years,
we would move,
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I'd be introduced
to a new place.
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I never really felt like
I fit in there.
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I'm also not quite
neurotypical,
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which I was only
recently diagnosed.
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Like, obviously, I've been
that way my whole life.
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But a few years back,
my ex called my mom.
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He was like,
"So I can't connect with her.
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Like, what is wrong with her?
Blah, blah, blah."
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And she was like,
"Well, you know,
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I'm pretty sure
she has Asperger's."
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And then
I'm like looking it up
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and like talking to my doctor
about it.
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I'm like,
"Oh, this is 100% me, 100%."
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And I've just kind of
been looking back
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and seeing everything
through that lens now.
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And I think I was drawn
to try to be in the spotlight
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because I felt like
if I could be famous,
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that would be a shortcut
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to feeling a connection
with people
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because we feel connected
to celebrities.
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♪
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I was very much attracted to
like the Anna Nicole Smiths,
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who was a supermodel
at the time,
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and the Jenny McCarthys
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who was like
the It girl on MTV
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and the Pamela Andersons
who was like--
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she was the biggest TV star
at the time.
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And kind of this
common denominator you notice
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is they all started out
as Playmates.
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It made a lot of sense
to infer that,
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"Oh, if I start out at Playboy,
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I could end up like that too
because they did."
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♪
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The next time I encountered
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anything from
the Playboy world
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was when I moved to California,
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I was working for
Hawaiian Tropic as a model.
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Mark Saginor, Hef's
personal doctor at the time,
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was at one of
the Hawaiian Tropic contests
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and he extended an invitation
to a Playboy party
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to all the women
participating.
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I was really excited to go
because, at the time,
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the Playboy parties
were really, really exclusive.
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You saw celebrities
everywhere.
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You saw Playmates you
recognized from the magazine.
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And of course,
I saw Hef.
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At that point, everybody was
giving him a ton of attention
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because he was going out
to nightclubs
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several times a week
with seven girlfriends.
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- These are my girlfriends.
- Every one of them
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is your girlfriend?
- Yes.
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The image I got of Hef
and his girlfriends
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was one of a revolving door.
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The women would come in,
they would all get centerfolds.
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Some of them would move on
to better things.
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And it just seemed like
everyone was happy with that.
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♪
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And then in summer of 2001,
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I got invited to the pool
parties that they would have
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on Sundays
at the Playboy Mansion,
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and I just saw this really
wholesome atmosphere.
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It was really surprising.
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The whole social circle
at the Mansion
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just seemed like such a happy
little family of friends.
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So for somebody
who has a horrible time
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connecting with other people
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to kind of
fall into this place
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that feels like
a little community instantly
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is very attractive.
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On Sundays, she would sit
there two or three chairs down
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from where
we would play backgammon.
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I remember her talking
to Alison and asking her,
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"How do I become a girlfriend?"
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Hef really didn't, like,
pick her out.
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She basically, you know,
came to him.
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I wasn't physically
attracted to Hef,
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but I did find him
very charming.
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And I feel like
one of the reasons I was
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so able to buy into being able
to have this relationship
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with an older person
is I thought,
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"Well, I never like connected
with guys my own age.
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"So maybe this is
what's meant to happen.
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Maybe this is a better fit."
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♪
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And in the amount of time
I was going to parties there,
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which is about a year's
worth of time,
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it was made obvious to me
that I could join the group
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anytime I wanted through
some of the other women.
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And of course, all the girls
behind the scenes were saying
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they didn't really sleep
with him
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and it's just all publicity.
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And I felt like that
was probably the case.
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- Does he bang any of them?
- Um... I don't know.
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You don't know?
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I thought living at the
Mansion would be very cozy.
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I felt like it would be
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this really one-of-a-kind
amazing sorority.
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People always want to point
to the money and the luxury
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and--you know, that was fine.
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But what really attracted me
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was the sense
of having a community
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and a support system.
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And people don't recognize
how alluring that can be.
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The first night I went out
with Hef and the girls,
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I just kind of had it
in my mind that,
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you know,
I was gonna see what happened,
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and if I wasn't
comfortable with it,
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I didn't have to do anything.
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You know, we went out
to a nightclub.
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I was sitting next to Hef,
and he leaned over
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and he asked me
if I wanted to take a Quaalude.
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I said something like,
"No, I don't do drugs."
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And he goes, "Yeah,
I typically don't either.
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"But, you know,
they used to call these
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thigh openers in the '70s."
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I just thought
it was really weird.
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That night, I drank a lot
'cause I was nervous.
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Back at the house,
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after I ended up
going upstairs with them...
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I don't really wanna
talk about it.
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There was definitely no,
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like, romance or seduction
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or anything like that.
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It was dark in the room.
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But there was a giant movie
screen of porn
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in front of the bed.
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He was in the middle
of the bed.
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And then the women
were surrounding him,
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but they're all backlit.
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I'd never had casual sex
with anybody before.
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I feel like
I was kind of really asexual.
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So maybe I just
wasn't ready for that?
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♪
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It was all very mechanical
and robotic,
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and you would kind of follow
the other women's lead.
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And it was really gross to me
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how Hef didn't wanna use
use protection.
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♪
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The impact it had on me
was so heavy.
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I never expected to be
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the first person
to have sex that night
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or to be like pushed into it.
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The next morning,
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I definitely felt humiliated
by the experience.
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But in the beginning,
even after that night,
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like, I still had this idea
and this fantasy of, like,
250
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all of us
being like sorority sisters
251
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and we're all gonna get along.
252
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I think sometimes when
you're not in control at all,
253
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you can lean into
a bad situation more
254
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because you're almost
fooling yourself
255
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by thinking you are in control.
256
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I think it's a trauma response.
257
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So I decided to move
into the Mansion.
258
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Obviously, I told people,
'cause I moved,
259
00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:55,818
and I was just shocked
at how everyone reacted.
260
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When you say you're like dating
Hugh Hefner or whatever,
261
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people assume you're getting
a money exchange for sex
262
00:13:01,476 --> 00:13:03,304
and they want to put you
in a corner
263
00:13:03,347 --> 00:13:06,568
and, you know,
call you a hooker or whatever.
264
00:13:06,611 --> 00:13:08,831
So I know there's
that judgement out there.
265
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And I just immediately
felt dirty
266
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and like I would be judged
for the rest of my life
267
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for making this decision.
268
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And I never thought of it
that way at all.
269
00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:21,496
I thought of myself
as involved with one man.
270
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I did enjoy
living at his house,
271
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but it wasn't in a direct
exchange of money for sex
272
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or anything like that.
273
00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:30,853
I don't look down
on sex workers.
274
00:13:30,897 --> 00:13:33,508
But it does bug me that people
want to put me in that corner
275
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because I don't feel like
276
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I was even making
that decision, really.
277
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I had unintentionally branded
myself by moving in there.
278
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And if I thought
my life was hard before,
279
00:13:47,957 --> 00:13:50,960
it was gonna be
really hard if I left.
280
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And it made me
just want to, like,
281
00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:53,876
turn the situation
right somehow.
282
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And I didn't know
how to do that.
283
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♪ We may be wrong but
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♪ We think
you're wonderful ♪
285
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At the Mansion,
the indoctrination, I feel,
286
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,547
starts almost immediately
when you're there
287
00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:15,463
and you start hearing
about how wonderful Hef is
288
00:14:15,506 --> 00:14:18,379
from his circle of friends.
289
00:14:18,422 --> 00:14:22,035
Hef provided
a stunning environment.
290
00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:25,255
He was a loving, decent,
wonderful man,
291
00:14:25,299 --> 00:14:26,909
incredible friend.
292
00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:30,521
He is such a great man
293
00:14:30,565 --> 00:14:33,176
with such a great personality,
294
00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:35,135
and everyone was drawn to him.
295
00:14:35,178 --> 00:14:38,486
Hef was a gracious man.
296
00:14:38,529 --> 00:14:39,879
And he loved women.
297
00:14:39,922 --> 00:14:41,184
He loved them.
298
00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,752
He treated women with love
299
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and honor and respect.
300
00:14:46,711 --> 00:14:51,238
And I think that Hef
always was a romanticist.
301
00:14:51,281 --> 00:14:53,153
I'm a romantic fool.
302
00:14:53,196 --> 00:14:56,243
I mean, I was raised
in that impossible world
303
00:14:56,286 --> 00:14:59,159
where the words of the songs
are true.
304
00:14:59,202 --> 00:15:00,943
And the romantic songs,
the Cole Porter
305
00:15:00,987 --> 00:15:02,423
and the--you know,
the Gershwin.
306
00:15:04,294 --> 00:15:05,774
So in the beginning,
307
00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:07,732
Hef is what you would now
call a love bomber.
308
00:15:07,776 --> 00:15:10,735
He's somebody who tells you
I love you almost immediately.
309
00:15:10,779 --> 00:15:13,434
He was always telling me,
you know, how special I was
310
00:15:13,477 --> 00:15:15,305
and you're so giving
for your age.
311
00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:17,264
And, you know,
he really made me feel like
312
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I was special and rare.
313
00:15:21,442 --> 00:15:24,532
You had no idea
you were being brainwashed.
314
00:15:24,575 --> 00:15:27,100
Now that's a little girl
in love.
315
00:15:27,143 --> 00:15:28,710
I was in heaven.
316
00:15:30,103 --> 00:15:32,409
I was Hef's girlfriend
in the '70s
317
00:15:32,453 --> 00:15:34,281
and early '80s for five years.
318
00:15:34,324 --> 00:15:35,804
♪
319
00:15:35,847 --> 00:15:37,327
He liked the old movies,
320
00:15:37,371 --> 00:15:40,940
and it's like
he would become a character
321
00:15:40,983 --> 00:15:45,553
and do the romantic things
he saw in the movies.
322
00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:47,468
You know,
he'd take me in his arms,
323
00:15:47,511 --> 00:15:50,862
and we'd dance around
the game room.
324
00:15:50,906 --> 00:15:52,603
And he said,
"You're the first girl
325
00:15:52,647 --> 00:15:56,738
I've liked enough to consider
having a baby with."
326
00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:59,654
That was his romantic way.
327
00:15:59,697 --> 00:16:02,526
And people supported it.
328
00:16:02,570 --> 00:16:05,834
The secretaries or whatever--
they manipulated the girls.
329
00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:08,968
They--they spoke highly of him.
330
00:16:09,011 --> 00:16:10,795
He comes off, you know,
caring and generous,
331
00:16:10,839 --> 00:16:12,623
especially when you see him
in that atmosphere
332
00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:16,192
because he's providing this
good time for all his friends.
333
00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:19,021
And, you know,
they glow about him.
334
00:16:20,849 --> 00:16:22,329
And you just start to build
this picture in your head
335
00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:25,549
of somebody
who can really do no wrong.
336
00:16:25,593 --> 00:16:29,553
And now, looking back,
on my time at Playboy,
337
00:16:29,597 --> 00:16:31,425
it reminds me of a cult.
338
00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:43,176
The reason I think
the Mansion was very cultlike,
339
00:16:43,219 --> 00:16:44,916
looking back on it,
340
00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,831
is because we were all
341
00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:48,833
kind of gaslit
342
00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:53,316
and expected to think of Hef
as like this really good guy.
343
00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,927
And you started to feel like,
"Oh, he's not
344
00:16:55,971 --> 00:16:58,104
what they say in the media.
He's just a nice man."
345
00:16:58,147 --> 00:17:00,062
♪
346
00:17:00,106 --> 00:17:03,065
Another thing that reminds me
of a cult is how it was so...
347
00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:05,720
easy to get isolated
from the outside world there.
348
00:17:07,156 --> 00:17:09,115
You had a 9:00 curfew.
349
00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:13,119
You were encouraged
to not have friends over.
350
00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:14,642
You weren't really
allowed to leave
351
00:17:14,685 --> 00:17:16,470
unless it was like
a family holiday.
352
00:17:16,513 --> 00:17:18,863
Are there are rules like can
you have boyfriends at all?
353
00:17:18,907 --> 00:17:20,256
- No.
- No.
354
00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:22,084
- You're not allowed to?
- Hef is our boyfriend.
355
00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:23,433
How do you know when you're
called to the master bedroom?
356
00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:25,218
Do you have nights?
Yeah.
357
00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:27,524
The sex always happened
kind of like the same time
358
00:17:27,568 --> 00:17:29,570
the same night.
359
00:17:29,613 --> 00:17:32,312
We would go out to a club
every Wednesday and Friday,
360
00:17:32,355 --> 00:17:35,750
and that would be expected
when we got home.
361
00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:37,665
I kept my waitressing job
at just like one day a week
362
00:17:37,708 --> 00:17:40,929
because I wanted just to have
something easy to go back to
363
00:17:40,972 --> 00:17:42,496
should things not work out.
364
00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:44,150
And he said it made him jealous
365
00:17:44,193 --> 00:17:47,022
and he would appreciate it
if I quit my job.
366
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:51,374
So instead, we were given
$1,000 a week as an allowance.
367
00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:54,943
I know for a fact the rules
she had to follow were true.
368
00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:56,684
You're imprisoned
in that Playboy, like,
369
00:17:56,727 --> 00:17:59,382
you can't do
your own thing 100%.
370
00:17:59,426 --> 00:18:02,342
When Hefner was married
to Kimberley,
371
00:18:02,385 --> 00:18:06,911
I'd invited Kimberley
to a Sunday lunch at my house,
372
00:18:06,955 --> 00:18:11,002
but she was not really allowed
out of the Mansion.
373
00:18:11,046 --> 00:18:12,917
So she arrived
with a bodyguard
374
00:18:12,961 --> 00:18:16,225
who was constantly on
his telephone to Mr. Hefner.
375
00:18:16,269 --> 00:18:18,662
"She's going up the stairs.
She's gone to the loo."
376
00:18:18,706 --> 00:18:20,969
And I was like,
"Is this a joke?"
377
00:18:21,012 --> 00:18:24,755
And she's like, "No, this
is--this is how it is."
378
00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:26,801
♪
379
00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:28,672
I think in the very early
first few months
380
00:18:28,716 --> 00:18:30,326
that I was there,
381
00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:32,328
even though not everything
was to my liking,
382
00:18:32,372 --> 00:18:37,159
I felt like I hadn't given the
situation enough of a chance.
383
00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,074
Love, love, love!
384
00:18:39,118 --> 00:18:41,598
So I tried really hard
to follow all the rules.
385
00:18:41,642 --> 00:18:43,818
Welcome to the Playboy Mansion.
386
00:18:43,861 --> 00:18:45,428
I'm Holly, and I'm here
to give you a tour.
387
00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:47,691
Come on with me.
I'll show you the game house.
388
00:18:47,735 --> 00:18:51,130
I saw Holly try very hard
389
00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:53,262
to be like the lady
of the Mansion.
390
00:18:53,306 --> 00:18:54,916
Every little boy's fantasy,
391
00:18:54,959 --> 00:18:57,179
a house devoted
entirely to games.
392
00:18:57,223 --> 00:18:59,181
We have old video games,
new ones.
393
00:18:59,225 --> 00:19:04,012
She really tried to get into
the things that Hef got into.
394
00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:05,187
They had movie nights
395
00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:07,450
on Friday,
Saturday, and Sunday.
396
00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:09,148
1939.
397
00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:10,671
"Gone with the Wind."
398
00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:15,502
She'd be there, and she'd be
very sweet to everybody.
399
00:19:17,243 --> 00:19:19,245
One thing about me that was
different from the other women
400
00:19:19,288 --> 00:19:22,422
who lived there was
I was really quiet.
401
00:19:22,465 --> 00:19:24,772
I just liked to stay in,
402
00:19:24,815 --> 00:19:26,513
and I loved watching
the old movies
403
00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:28,515
that Hef showed on Friday
and Saturdays.
404
00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:30,952
I liked going down
to the buffet dinners
405
00:19:30,995 --> 00:19:32,171
and chatting with his friends
406
00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:33,868
or listening to them talk
or whatever.
407
00:19:35,739 --> 00:19:37,698
The other girls,
they were just there to party
408
00:19:37,741 --> 00:19:39,961
and have a good time.
409
00:19:40,004 --> 00:19:43,704
Holly was there to be
a real presence
410
00:19:43,747 --> 00:19:46,968
in the Playboy Mansion.
411
00:19:47,011 --> 00:19:48,491
Holly just cared about Hef.
412
00:19:48,535 --> 00:19:50,276
♪
413
00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,887
She was there
to look after him.
414
00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:57,935
She was a good hostess
to his guests.
415
00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:00,764
I thought
she was right for him.
416
00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:03,985
Within the first few months,
I went from being new
417
00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:07,989
to being like
Hef's main girlfriend.
418
00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:10,209
I wasn't into the multiple
girlfriend thing.
419
00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,515
It's not about them.
It's just about
420
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,517
I would obviously rather be
in a relationship
421
00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:16,345
where it's just me
and one other person.
422
00:20:16,389 --> 00:20:19,783
I was expected to order
his drinks for him
423
00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:22,264
and like always stand
next to him in pictures
424
00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:24,788
and to move into his room.
425
00:20:24,832 --> 00:20:27,008
Now, what is it about Holly?
426
00:20:27,051 --> 00:20:29,097
Well, I think,
despite the age disparity,
427
00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:30,577
I think she's an old soul.
428
00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:32,448
I think we have
very common interests
429
00:20:32,492 --> 00:20:36,322
in terms of the way
we enjoy spending our time.
430
00:20:36,365 --> 00:20:37,584
She loves old classic films,
431
00:20:37,627 --> 00:20:40,717
she loves the same kind
of music I love.
432
00:20:40,761 --> 00:20:42,893
I think what switched for me
433
00:20:42,937 --> 00:20:44,939
was when Hef started using me
as a tool and saying,
434
00:20:44,982 --> 00:20:46,636
"Well, why can't you
just behave like Holly?
435
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,029
"Why can't you just show up
to all the movies?
436
00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:49,465
Why can't you do this
like her?"
437
00:20:49,509 --> 00:20:51,946
Then everybody hated me.
438
00:20:51,989 --> 00:20:53,948
One of the girlfriends
439
00:20:53,991 --> 00:20:57,865
started working as a liaison
for this escort service.
440
00:20:57,908 --> 00:20:59,301
And she started
trying to recruit
441
00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:01,216
all the other girlfriends.
442
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,610
When she was found out,
443
00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:06,177
she thought it was me
who told on her, and it wasn't.
444
00:21:06,221 --> 00:21:07,918
And I remember I had the flu
445
00:21:07,962 --> 00:21:09,616
and I was laying down
in Hef's room.
446
00:21:09,659 --> 00:21:11,444
He was downstairs somewhere.
447
00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:14,185
And she like comes up the bed
screaming in my face,
448
00:21:14,229 --> 00:21:15,622
and I like can barely move,
449
00:21:15,665 --> 00:21:18,320
so it's kind of like
a scary situation.
450
00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:19,843
And I kind of had a breakdown
451
00:21:19,887 --> 00:21:21,105
because I thought
she was gonna hit me,
452
00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:23,456
and like I have to live
with these people.
453
00:21:25,588 --> 00:21:29,375
So I was completely isolated
until Bridget came along.
454
00:21:31,246 --> 00:21:33,161
Bridget, how did you
come aboard?
455
00:21:33,204 --> 00:21:35,250
Um, I came to the Mansion
pursuing to be in the magazine.
456
00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:36,947
I really wanted to be
a Playmate
457
00:21:36,991 --> 00:21:40,473
and started going out
as the big party posse.
458
00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:42,692
I think that Holly
and I bonded because
459
00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:46,696
I was very clear about
not wanting her position.
460
00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:50,613
Some of the girlfriends would
have liked to take that spot.
461
00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:53,181
They wanna just like
still break all the rules
462
00:21:53,224 --> 00:21:54,965
but still get all the perks.
463
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:57,185
I knew that Holly
would want a life
464
00:21:57,228 --> 00:22:00,493
without all
the extra girlfriends.
465
00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:03,452
In five years from today,
Holly, what are you doing?
466
00:22:03,496 --> 00:22:05,759
Um, I wanna be married,
have kids,
467
00:22:05,802 --> 00:22:07,587
and still be working
at Playboy.
468
00:22:07,630 --> 00:22:08,675
- With Hef?
- Yeah.
469
00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:14,289
I think I definitely thought
I was in love with Hef,
470
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,944
but it was
very Stockholm syndrome.
471
00:22:16,987 --> 00:22:18,598
Very Stockholm syndrome.
472
00:22:20,556 --> 00:22:23,603
So Stockholm syndrome is when
somebody starts to identify
473
00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:26,127
with somebody who is
their captor in some way.
474
00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:28,956
And I feel like I did that
with Hef 100%.
475
00:22:28,999 --> 00:22:32,742
Like, I never blamed him for
any of the drama that went on.
476
00:22:32,786 --> 00:22:35,266
I always blamed it
on the other women, you know.
477
00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:36,877
Hef was innocent in my eyes.
478
00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:40,794
And then later, one of
the girls was telling me
479
00:22:40,837 --> 00:22:43,231
how Hef always
pits the main girlfriend
480
00:22:43,274 --> 00:22:45,842
against the other girls.
481
00:22:45,886 --> 00:22:48,671
This situation was going on
for years before I came along.
482
00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:57,637
- What do you see?
- Patty and Laura.
483
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,204
This must have been
the Playmate party.
484
00:23:00,248 --> 00:23:02,381
And that's when I met
all these girls.
485
00:23:02,424 --> 00:23:06,428
And they were very,
very mean to me at this point.
486
00:23:06,472 --> 00:23:11,825
When I was Hef's girlfriend,
every girl wanted my position.
487
00:23:11,868 --> 00:23:13,435
See, all the girls
wanted to be in my shoes.
488
00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:16,133
They wanted to be the girl
walking down the path with him,
489
00:23:16,177 --> 00:23:18,527
sitting next to him.
490
00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:20,355
He would pit us
against each other.
491
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:23,924
You know, there was always
a little tiff
492
00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,621
going with different girls.
493
00:23:25,665 --> 00:23:29,625
And, you know, if everybody was
a little unsure of themselves,
494
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:31,410
then he could have his way.
495
00:23:32,976 --> 00:23:36,284
It was like we were
in this competition.
496
00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,243
And when I look at somebody
who's
497
00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:42,508
struggling to create
all this drama amongst people
498
00:23:42,551 --> 00:23:45,032
so he can feel like people
are fighting over him,
499
00:23:45,075 --> 00:23:48,078
I'm like, "What hole are you
trying to fill?"
500
00:23:58,524 --> 00:24:01,222
♪
501
00:24:01,265 --> 00:24:02,919
My name is Richard Bann,
502
00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:06,662
and I was lucky enough
to meet Hugh Hefner in 1990.
503
00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,926
And I knew him as one
of his closest personal friends
504
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:10,971
until he died.
505
00:24:11,014 --> 00:24:13,147
♪
506
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:17,064
As a kid, he was uncomfortable
approaching young ladies.
507
00:24:17,107 --> 00:24:18,631
And he didn't always succeed.
508
00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:21,503
In high school,
509
00:24:21,547 --> 00:24:26,116
he was gonna invite
Betty Conklin to a hayride.
510
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,466
And she rejected him.
511
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:32,122
She went instead
with one of his close friends.
512
00:24:33,341 --> 00:24:36,344
This was a watershed event
in his life.
513
00:24:36,387 --> 00:24:39,608
What he did
was he reinvented himself.
514
00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:42,916
He changed his wardrobe,
he changed the way he spoke
515
00:24:42,959 --> 00:24:46,354
in hopes
of being able to attract
516
00:24:46,397 --> 00:24:49,183
someone like Betty Conklin.
517
00:24:50,358 --> 00:24:51,838
I'm a rebel.
518
00:24:51,881 --> 00:24:54,841
A man ought to work hard
and play hard too
519
00:24:54,884 --> 00:24:57,191
because you only get one time
around in this old world,
520
00:24:57,234 --> 00:24:58,845
and if you don't make
the most of it,
521
00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:00,455
you've got no one
to blame but yourself.
522
00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:06,940
Betty Conklin represented
523
00:25:06,983 --> 00:25:10,247
the "Citizen Kane" Rosebud
of his life.
524
00:25:10,291 --> 00:25:14,817
She was the template
for the girl next door.
525
00:25:14,861 --> 00:25:19,213
Hef created "Playboy" magazine
and this whole empire
526
00:25:19,256 --> 00:25:21,563
to work out
the failed relationship
527
00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:23,478
he had with Betty Conklin.
528
00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:28,875
With Hef, I don't really know
what's true or what's not.
529
00:25:30,441 --> 00:25:32,095
He would tell people
in the media
530
00:25:32,139 --> 00:25:33,575
and, of course,
they loved to run with that
531
00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:36,230
as like the moment
that changed everything.
532
00:25:36,273 --> 00:25:39,320
But it's not just a girl
invited somebody else
533
00:25:39,363 --> 00:25:40,669
to a hayride in high school.
534
00:25:41,844 --> 00:25:43,585
The way he treats people,
535
00:25:43,629 --> 00:25:45,979
there's gotta be something
more going on
536
00:25:46,022 --> 00:25:47,633
under the surface.
537
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:49,983
There's got to be
something darker.
538
00:25:50,026 --> 00:25:52,638
Because when I was there,
539
00:25:52,681 --> 00:25:57,251
I felt like he wanted
to have control over me
540
00:25:57,294 --> 00:25:59,340
and the other women
who were there.
541
00:26:01,472 --> 00:26:03,344
Hef wanted to know,
542
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:06,390
"How does somebody
control somebody?"
543
00:26:06,434 --> 00:26:10,046
When we first started dating
in the late '70s,
544
00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:12,658
he was fascinated and obsessed
with Charles Manson.
545
00:26:12,701 --> 00:26:15,225
♪
546
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:17,750
Couldn't talk enough
about him.
547
00:26:17,793 --> 00:26:19,621
How does this guy
have these women
548
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:22,015
that have been in jail
for how many years
549
00:26:22,058 --> 00:26:23,625
and when they have a chance
to get out,
550
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:24,931
they're still adoring him,
551
00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:27,020
and they will
till the day they die.
552
00:26:27,063 --> 00:26:29,588
And Hef liked that.
553
00:26:29,631 --> 00:26:32,025
In Hef's film collection,
554
00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:34,897
he even had
the Manson family "home videos"
555
00:26:34,941 --> 00:26:36,595
made before the murders,
556
00:26:36,638 --> 00:26:39,380
the girls with guns
and knives out at the ranch.
557
00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:40,729
You have to know it so that
558
00:26:40,773 --> 00:26:42,731
you could pick it up
any second and shoot.
559
00:26:42,775 --> 00:26:44,951
There were so many
similarities--
560
00:26:44,994 --> 00:26:48,389
the way the girls
followed everything he said,
561
00:26:48,432 --> 00:26:50,478
and we were all
one big happy family.
562
00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:53,046
♪
563
00:26:53,089 --> 00:26:54,482
He would say things like,
564
00:26:54,525 --> 00:26:56,615
"If you can get along
with everybody,
565
00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:59,966
we can be together forever."
566
00:27:00,009 --> 00:27:04,274
That's how he reeled me in.
I wasn't gay.
567
00:27:04,318 --> 00:27:07,843
But he would whisper in my ear,
you know, "Go talk to her.
568
00:27:07,887 --> 00:27:11,151
Go talk to her and see
if she wants to party."
569
00:27:12,935 --> 00:27:14,676
Finally, one day,
I just, "Oh, geez!
570
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,809
Okay. I'll try it once."
571
00:27:20,726 --> 00:27:21,988
Yeah. Yeah.
572
00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:25,426
He was happy.
573
00:27:25,469 --> 00:27:28,995
That was exactly
what he had asked for so long.
574
00:27:29,038 --> 00:27:32,302
But also, that wasn't enough.
575
00:27:32,346 --> 00:27:35,305
He had to have more
and more and more.
576
00:27:35,349 --> 00:27:37,917
It just got ugly
577
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,180
because I felt like
I was a ringmaster.
578
00:27:40,223 --> 00:27:43,270
I felt like I had to put
the show on every night.
579
00:27:43,313 --> 00:27:45,054
And it's the same script.
580
00:27:45,098 --> 00:27:48,710
"Welcome to the family.
We're embracing you."
581
00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,669
It was all a lie.
582
00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:53,889
I watched girl after girl
after girl show up,
583
00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:56,805
fresh face, adorable,
and then...
584
00:27:56,849 --> 00:27:58,894
their beauty just washed away.
585
00:27:58,938 --> 00:28:01,027
They were tired.
586
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:05,727
I saw clearly that
we were nothing to him.
587
00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:08,382
Hugh went through decades
of young girls, decades.
588
00:28:09,992 --> 00:28:12,734
He said to me,
"What I do is
589
00:28:12,778 --> 00:28:15,911
I find somebody
whose looks I like,
590
00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:19,654
that I'm really attracted to,
for all the obvious reasons,
591
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:24,615
and then I project onto them
whatever it is I want to see
592
00:28:24,659 --> 00:28:26,313
and I block out
everything else."
593
00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:29,751
By the early 2000s,
594
00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,841
the girlfriends were always
these interchangeable,
595
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:35,148
replaceable sex objects
to Hefner.
596
00:28:36,932 --> 00:28:38,934
I think it probably
gave him a feeling
597
00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:42,633
of being more in control
if we all looked identical.
598
00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:44,766
How do you tell
each other apart?
599
00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:46,594
'Cause y'all have the same
kind of blonde hair.
600
00:28:46,637 --> 00:28:48,117
Yeah.
601
00:28:48,161 --> 00:28:49,205
The plastic surgery
amongst the girlfriends
602
00:28:49,249 --> 00:28:50,772
in the Mansion was compulsive.
603
00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:54,080
Everybody was doing it
with very few exceptions.
604
00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:56,125
I remember being made to feel
605
00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:59,302
like I needed to look
exactly like everybody else.
606
00:28:59,346 --> 00:29:01,827
When I asked him if I could
ever test for Playmate,
607
00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:04,743
he said I'm just not
photogenic enough.
608
00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:07,354
So of course, what that does
to you is it makes you wonder,
609
00:29:07,397 --> 00:29:08,747
"Wow, what's wrong with me?
610
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,400
Like, what do I need
to get fixed?"
611
00:29:12,228 --> 00:29:15,101
Holly, she was getting her
nose done and her this done
612
00:29:15,144 --> 00:29:17,581
and--you know,
she wanted all this stuff done
613
00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:20,367
and so he paid for it.
614
00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:21,542
I've always been
very honest about it.
615
00:29:21,585 --> 00:29:23,370
I've had my boobs
and my nose done.
616
00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:28,375
I got to a point not too far
into my time there--
617
00:29:28,418 --> 00:29:29,768
I think I was only like
six months in--
618
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,335
where I kind of broke
under that pressure
619
00:29:32,379 --> 00:29:34,381
and being made to feel
like I needed to look
620
00:29:34,424 --> 00:29:36,035
exactly like everybody else.
621
00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:39,081
My hair was really
long naturally,
622
00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:41,562
and I was just like,
"I'm gonna go chop my hair off
623
00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:43,390
so I can at least look
a little different."
624
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,044
♪ Happy birthday to you
625
00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:46,959
I came back with short hair,
626
00:29:47,002 --> 00:29:49,570
and he flipped out on me.
627
00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,528
And he was screaming at me
628
00:29:51,572 --> 00:29:55,706
and said it made me
look old, hard, and cheap.
629
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:58,579
I remember
when she cut her hair.
630
00:29:58,622 --> 00:30:00,799
He was very unhappy about it.
631
00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,672
Yeah, his world.
632
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:07,109
Hef would be pretty abrasive
633
00:30:07,153 --> 00:30:08,981
in the way
he said things to Holly.
634
00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:11,679
She came down
with red lipstick one time
635
00:30:11,722 --> 00:30:13,246
and he like flipped out
636
00:30:13,289 --> 00:30:14,856
and said he hated
red lipstick on girls,
637
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,858
needed to take it off
right away,
638
00:30:16,902 --> 00:30:19,121
even though other people
could wear red lipstick
639
00:30:19,165 --> 00:30:21,515
and it didn't seem
to bother him.
640
00:30:21,558 --> 00:30:25,127
I could definitely see that she
was getting depressed and sad
641
00:30:25,171 --> 00:30:27,260
and her demeanor
was starting to change.
642
00:30:27,303 --> 00:30:31,960
I felt like I was just
in this cycle of gross things,
643
00:30:32,004 --> 00:30:34,180
and I didn't know what to do.
644
00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:41,709
You know, over the years,
I knew a lot of girlfriends.
645
00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:46,235
You know who's there for Hef
and who's there just because
646
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:49,238
they want a place to stay
and a little money every week.
647
00:30:49,282 --> 00:30:50,892
And, you know,
you just get to a point
648
00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:52,633
where you know who's who.
649
00:30:52,676 --> 00:30:55,244
And what's funny with Holly,
650
00:30:55,288 --> 00:30:59,379
she never let on
if she was unhappy.
651
00:30:59,422 --> 00:31:01,468
You're in a relationship
with Hugh Hefner
652
00:31:01,511 --> 00:31:02,904
inside the Playboy Mansion.
653
00:31:02,948 --> 00:31:05,124
You signed up for that journey,
654
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,996
and you knew you signed up
for that journey.
655
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,871
If you're not happy,
pack up your stuff and go.
656
00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:15,961
Like you could have
walked out the door any time.
657
00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:18,746
♪
658
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:21,488
His friends were always
so supportive
659
00:31:21,531 --> 00:31:24,099
and just speaking
so highly of him.
660
00:31:24,143 --> 00:31:26,885
But that's the only side
of him they ever saw.
661
00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:29,670
They had no idea what was
going on behind closed doors
662
00:31:29,713 --> 00:31:31,585
and how the women were treated.
663
00:31:33,587 --> 00:31:36,590
When I lived at the Mansion,
I was afraid to leave.
664
00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:38,113
Something that was
always lingering
665
00:31:38,157 --> 00:31:39,941
in the back of my mind,
I think,
666
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,988
since the very beginning
was that if I left,
667
00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:44,859
there was just this mountain
of revenge porn
668
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:47,949
just waiting to come out.
669
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:50,343
When you would go out
with Hef,
670
00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:53,085
he's taking all kinds of
naked pictures of these women
671
00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:55,217
when we're wasted
out of our minds.
672
00:31:55,261 --> 00:31:57,002
And he would print out, like,
673
00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:59,091
eight copies for him
and all the women.
674
00:31:59,134 --> 00:32:02,181
You would pass them around,
and it's just gross.
675
00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:06,359
I drank pretty heavily
every night we went out.
676
00:32:06,402 --> 00:32:08,622
It was my way of coping
with the situation
677
00:32:08,665 --> 00:32:10,537
after we got back home.
678
00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:12,626
The other girlfriends
would always try
679
00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:14,715
and bring other girls home
from nightclubs
680
00:32:14,758 --> 00:32:16,804
and get other girls
to come upstairs.
681
00:32:16,847 --> 00:32:19,154
And I wasn't into that.
682
00:32:19,198 --> 00:32:23,202
The drama between me and
the other women became so bad.
683
00:32:23,245 --> 00:32:25,726
Like, imagine having sex
with somebody
684
00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:28,294
in a room full of women
who all hate you
685
00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:31,210
and you know they're all
talking about you.
686
00:32:32,689 --> 00:32:34,735
And there was a point
where I just felt really low.
687
00:32:34,778 --> 00:32:37,651
Like, I didn't feel like
I had any options.
688
00:32:37,694 --> 00:32:40,045
♪
689
00:32:40,088 --> 00:32:43,744
I remember there was a point
in time a couple years in,
690
00:32:43,787 --> 00:32:45,398
after we had gone out
691
00:32:45,441 --> 00:32:47,443
and after
we'd all been in the bedroom,
692
00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:49,010
everybody's leaving
and walking out,
693
00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:51,012
and I was in the bathtub,
694
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:53,319
and I just wanted
to drown myself.
695
00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:57,018
♪
696
00:32:57,062 --> 00:33:01,283
I just felt like I was
in this cycle of misery.
697
00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:05,940
And, you know, those feelings
would never last long.
698
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,463
But you have
those moments like,
699
00:33:07,507 --> 00:33:09,509
"What did I gain
from this experience?"
700
00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:11,380
You know? I knew
there would be something.
701
00:33:11,424 --> 00:33:13,687
I always had that faith
that there would be something
702
00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:15,602
that would make it worth it.
703
00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:25,046
These are so sexy.
I love 'em.
704
00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:27,440
Yeah, I think you got
a lotta good stuff.
705
00:33:27,483 --> 00:33:30,878
The first season of "Girls
Next Door" came out in 2005,
706
00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:33,837
and it wasn't a perfect
experience by any means,
707
00:33:33,881 --> 00:33:36,231
but it totally saved my life.
708
00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,538
Come on, honey.
Jump in.
709
00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:42,150
"The Girls Next Door"
happened at a time
710
00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:44,544
when Playboy had lost its feet.
711
00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:46,937
The Internet,
celebrity culture,
712
00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:49,679
all these things--
it was like an earthquake
713
00:33:49,723 --> 00:33:51,420
and Hef was trying
to figure out,
714
00:33:51,464 --> 00:33:53,509
"Well, how do we
stay relevant?"
715
00:33:53,553 --> 00:33:56,643
Hef's documentarian friend
716
00:33:56,686 --> 00:33:59,733
did all kinds of personality
interviews with everybody,
717
00:33:59,776 --> 00:34:01,909
including us three girls.
718
00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:04,607
Here we go!
Nice.
719
00:34:04,651 --> 00:34:08,089
And someone at E!
said, "That's my show.
720
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:09,525
I wanna see the Mansion
721
00:34:09,569 --> 00:34:11,571
through the eyes
of those three girls."
722
00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:14,226
"The Girls Next Door"
show did a lot
723
00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:15,836
for the Playboy brand.
724
00:34:15,879 --> 00:34:17,272
We knew there would be
some interest
725
00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:19,448
because it was
the Playboy Mansion.
726
00:34:19,492 --> 00:34:21,233
What I did not anticipate
727
00:34:21,276 --> 00:34:22,712
was how hugely popular
it would become
728
00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:25,324
and particularly how hugely
popular with young women.
729
00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:28,718
♪
730
00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:30,894
The show gave me confidence.
731
00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:32,766
It gave me a sense of purpose.
732
00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:36,639
The contrast between like the
first 3 years I lived there
733
00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:39,512
and like the last 3 1/2 years,
it was--it was night and day.
734
00:34:39,555 --> 00:34:42,428
I can see myself
getting my self-esteem back.
735
00:34:43,864 --> 00:34:46,562
I had a job at the Playboy
Studio for the show,
736
00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:48,651
and I ended up
really loving it.
737
00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:51,176
I seemed like I'm on my way
to being a little more normal,
738
00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:53,439
like a little more
of a functional human.
739
00:34:55,267 --> 00:34:57,182
It felt great to be able
to make the show.
740
00:34:57,225 --> 00:34:59,880
It really was a lot of fun.
741
00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:01,708
I was excited
when I finally got a chance
742
00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:03,623
to be in the magazine.
743
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,670
But we weren't paid for
the first order of episodes
744
00:35:07,714 --> 00:35:10,108
for "The Girls Next Door."
745
00:35:10,151 --> 00:35:11,413
They made it very clear to us
746
00:35:11,457 --> 00:35:14,024
that if we didn't wanna do it,
747
00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:15,765
there would be
a million girls
748
00:35:15,809 --> 00:35:17,593
that would wanna
take our place.
749
00:35:17,637 --> 00:35:19,595
Eventually, we did get paid.
750
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,816
But we were told one day that
we needed to sign contracts
751
00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:24,948
and we needed
to sign them that day
752
00:35:24,992 --> 00:35:26,907
or E! wasn't going
to renew the show,
753
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:28,648
which I just didn't want
to sign a contract
754
00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:30,258
that, in essence,
was signing a contract
755
00:35:30,302 --> 00:35:32,086
to be in a relationship,
since the show
756
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,610
was about three girls
he was dating.
757
00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:36,786
That felt very
prostitute-ish to me.
758
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,181
I was in the shower,
and all of a sudden,
759
00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:41,704
Hef is standing there,
760
00:35:41,748 --> 00:35:43,489
and he opens up
the shower door,
761
00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:45,099
and he's like, "Why aren't
you signing this contract?!
762
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:46,318
I need you to sign
this contract!"
763
00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:49,582
So we all signed it.
764
00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:53,194
But I consider
that signing under duress.
765
00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:56,589
I signed the contract,
crying and soaking wet.
766
00:35:59,635 --> 00:36:00,506
Mm-hmm.
767
00:36:02,551 --> 00:36:05,206
I always find
the perfect card.
768
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:08,470
"Still the one I love
to catch myself dreaming about.
769
00:36:08,514 --> 00:36:12,387
"Still the one I love
to talk things over with.
770
00:36:12,431 --> 00:36:13,606
Still the one--"
771
00:36:13,649 --> 00:36:15,564
Huh? You don't want me
to read it?
772
00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:18,176
- No.
- Oh--aw!
773
00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:23,833
Oh, no, I was embarrassed
and stressed.
774
00:36:23,877 --> 00:36:26,184
Like, he's reading
this card aloud that I got him,
775
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:28,621
and I just feel stupid
776
00:36:28,664 --> 00:36:30,927
because, like,
what even is this?
777
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:33,887
Like I'm supposed to be filming
like this romantic scene,
778
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:36,063
but he's, like,
dating other people.
779
00:36:38,457 --> 00:36:41,329
The show was doing a lot for me
both for my self-esteem
780
00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:42,939
and just as far
as other opportunities
781
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:44,419
that would come to be later.
782
00:36:44,463 --> 00:36:46,073
But I wasn't really
seeing that.
783
00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:50,556
I still felt like I was very
stuck in the same situation.
784
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,820
Hef was definitely very needy
of Holly's time,
785
00:36:53,863 --> 00:36:56,518
and he always wanted her
next to him.
786
00:36:57,867 --> 00:36:59,652
For instance, I remember
we went to this event
787
00:36:59,695 --> 00:37:01,175
on the "Queen Mary."
788
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:02,916
We were filming
"Girls Next Door."
789
00:37:02,959 --> 00:37:05,745
We got Hef to spend the night
on the "Queen Mary,"
790
00:37:05,788 --> 00:37:07,225
and we were so excited.
791
00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:08,922
And we were gonna go
run around the ship
792
00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:11,229
in our pajamas,
and so we were like,
793
00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:13,231
"Oh, Holly,
you have to come with us."
794
00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:15,407
And he told her no,
she couldn't go
795
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:17,104
and like grabbed her hair.
796
00:37:17,147 --> 00:37:18,845
She was like leaning down,
and he like pulled her hair
797
00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:20,977
was like,
"No. You're not going."
798
00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:22,631
She needed to be there
with him,
799
00:37:22,675 --> 00:37:25,068
otherwise, he would have
been alone in his room.
800
00:37:25,112 --> 00:37:27,245
And that wouldn't have been
okay with him.
801
00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:30,160
♪
802
00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:34,339
In 2008, my last year there,
the other girls were leaving.
803
00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:36,863
It looked like it was
just going to be me.
804
00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:38,256
I finally thought I had got
805
00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:39,953
what I wanted
out of this situation
806
00:37:39,996 --> 00:37:44,044
and was finally like in
this committed relationship.
807
00:37:44,087 --> 00:37:47,526
But during that time period,
he started
808
00:37:47,743 --> 00:37:49,615
getting even meaner.
809
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,400
One day, I had all these
messages from Holly
810
00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:54,794
that her and Hef
had an altercation
811
00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:57,927
downstairs during dinner,
and she got up to walk away
812
00:37:57,971 --> 00:38:02,410
and he said,
"Quit being such a bitch."
813
00:38:02,454 --> 00:38:05,805
But not bitch. The C word.
Which I hate that word.
814
00:38:05,848 --> 00:38:08,198
So I don't even wanna say it.
Sounds so ugly.
815
00:38:08,242 --> 00:38:11,376
And that's it. She was done.
816
00:38:11,419 --> 00:38:14,509
At that point, there were
no women to pit me against.
817
00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:16,511
There was none of that left.
818
00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,905
And that's when I had
the realization and I was like,
819
00:38:18,948 --> 00:38:21,560
"Whoa, he's been the problem
the whole time."
820
00:38:23,866 --> 00:38:26,869
I had been locked into
the mentality of the Mansion
821
00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:28,393
and had felt like
822
00:38:28,436 --> 00:38:31,352
there's no other
future for me outside.
823
00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:33,615
But I finally saw him
for who he was,
824
00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:36,226
and I had to go.
825
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:39,404
I just felt it so strongly
that I had to leave.
826
00:38:50,023 --> 00:38:57,160
♪
827
00:38:57,204 --> 00:39:01,687
The time at Playboy
really caused some damage.
828
00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:05,212
I've had different types of
therapy and stuff since I left.
829
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,956
Other than some of
the animals in the zoo,
830
00:39:09,999 --> 00:39:13,133
I can't really think
of anything I miss.
831
00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:17,833
When I decided to leave,
it was pretty sudden.
832
00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:20,401
So I wouldn't say it was
so much that I had a plan.
833
00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:22,229
I just had more
to fall back on.
834
00:39:22,272 --> 00:39:24,449
Like I'd been really careful
with my money
835
00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:26,364
and making investments
836
00:39:26,407 --> 00:39:29,062
And I knew that there was
at least a fan base
837
00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:30,585
for "The Girls Next Door."
838
00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:33,153
So maybe I could turn
that into something.
839
00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:39,159
And it worked out really well.
I did my own TV show.
840
00:39:39,202 --> 00:39:40,813
I'm out on my own
in Las Vegas.
841
00:39:40,856 --> 00:39:42,815
I star in a really awesome
burlesque show
842
00:39:42,858 --> 00:39:45,557
called "Peepshow"
at Planet Hollywood,
843
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,949
had kids, got married,
844
00:39:46,993 --> 00:39:51,432
basically did everything
I wanted to do.
845
00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:54,653
But every single day
of my life,
846
00:39:54,696 --> 00:39:56,219
I would have a stranger
approach me
847
00:39:56,263 --> 00:39:57,743
and ask, "How's Hef?"
848
00:39:57,786 --> 00:40:00,398
And I would always say,
"Oh, he's good. He's great."
849
00:40:00,441 --> 00:40:03,444
I really started
to feel terrible about it
850
00:40:03,488 --> 00:40:04,880
and like I was living a lie.
851
00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:07,274
And after my book came out,
852
00:40:07,317 --> 00:40:10,843
no one ever came up to me again
and asked how's Hef?
853
00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:13,193
My book wasn't motivated
by money at all.
854
00:40:13,236 --> 00:40:15,369
It wasn't motivated
by revenge.
855
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:17,545
I knew he was in a place
856
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:19,939
where he didn't really
answer to anyone.
857
00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:23,029
He wasn't necessarily
cancelable, so to speak.
858
00:40:23,072 --> 00:40:24,857
It was strictly for me
859
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,947
so I wouldn't feel bound
to be living this lie
860
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:30,993
where I constantly
have to say things were great
861
00:40:31,037 --> 00:40:32,778
when I was there
when they weren't.
862
00:40:37,565 --> 00:40:40,220
What I love about my book
863
00:40:40,263 --> 00:40:42,962
is I feel some people
are finding it
864
00:40:43,005 --> 00:40:46,052
and they read it and they
recognize parallel situations
865
00:40:46,095 --> 00:40:47,532
in emotionally
abusive relationships
866
00:40:47,575 --> 00:40:48,968
that they might be in.
867
00:40:49,011 --> 00:40:50,796
I've heard a lot of feedback
like that.
868
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:54,669
And I love it that people are
talking about abuses of power
869
00:40:54,713 --> 00:40:57,716
and imbalances
in relationships.
870
00:40:57,759 --> 00:41:00,458
And I hope that helps
some people.
871
00:41:01,676 --> 00:41:04,462
We are currently in an era
872
00:41:04,505 --> 00:41:06,812
where we're breaking down
that wall of misogyny.
873
00:41:06,855 --> 00:41:11,077
Hef was able to control women
874
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,342
under the disguise
of his money and power.
875
00:41:15,385 --> 00:41:16,648
Yeah, for sure.
876
00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:20,260
Holly Madison got money,
got fame,
877
00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:22,654
got everything she wanted.
878
00:41:22,697 --> 00:41:26,005
So I'm worried that Holly will
just cause a lot of eyerolling
879
00:41:26,048 --> 00:41:28,181
and therefore people won't
really take this seriously.
880
00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:31,967
When Holly
was his girlfriend,
881
00:41:32,011 --> 00:41:33,839
he was old by then.
882
00:41:33,882 --> 00:41:37,364
Hef was a lot younger
when I started dating him.
883
00:41:37,407 --> 00:41:41,411
My experiences with him
got pretty scary at times.
884
00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:43,544
We love you, Hef!
885
00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:46,504
Didn't matter how many
people you brought in--
886
00:41:46,547 --> 00:41:48,462
it would only satisfy him
for the moment
887
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,638
and then he'd have to find
something bigger,
888
00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,771
better, naughtier.
889
00:41:52,814 --> 00:41:54,555
He was like a vampire.
890
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,298
He sucked the life out of all
these young girls for decades.
891
00:41:58,341 --> 00:42:00,779
If those rocks could talk,
the tales they would tell.
892
00:42:02,389 --> 00:42:04,783
I know some really
deep dark secrets.
893
00:42:04,826 --> 00:42:06,741
I can't give this up.
894
00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:10,049
And now we're speaking up.
It's all gonna come out.
895
00:42:49,784 --> 00:42:52,657
I think everybody had that
desire to be a Playboy Bunny.
896
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,702
There was a style
897
00:42:54,746 --> 00:42:56,748
that the Playboy Bunnies had.
898
00:42:56,791 --> 00:42:59,446
When you put on
that costume,
899
00:42:59,489 --> 00:43:01,753
you thought
you were protected.
900
00:43:01,796 --> 00:43:04,059
But Bunnies were easy prey.
901
00:43:04,103 --> 00:43:09,021
Everything wasn't lights,
camera, action, happy.
902
00:43:09,064 --> 00:43:13,460
I think about those girls
that were muffled, discarded.
903
00:43:13,503 --> 00:43:16,071
There were many young women
that were assaulted,
904
00:43:16,115 --> 00:43:17,507
that were silenced.
905
00:43:17,551 --> 00:43:19,161
That's how it worked
with Playboy.
906
00:43:19,205 --> 00:43:21,555
You open your mouth,
you're outta here.
72263
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