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We're about to go where Mommy's from. 14 00:00:57,849 --> 00:00:58,683 [Harry] So busy. 15 00:00:58,767 --> 00:01:03,438 I just knew the stress that they were under. It felt like they were running. 16 00:01:03,521 --> 00:01:05,231 This is the current situation. 17 00:01:05,774 --> 00:01:10,236 Thanks to another amazing friend who we've never met, 18 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,156 but who believes in us and wants to help. 19 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:17,077 [soft music playing] 20 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:24,417 [emotive theme music playing] 21 00:02:00,161 --> 00:02:04,582 [emotive theme music finishes] 22 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,300 [female interviewer] Tell me how you first got in touch with Meghan. 23 00:02:16,469 --> 00:02:18,429 Um, you know, I'm not a, a royal watcher. 24 00:02:18,513 --> 00:02:21,933 I… I don't really pay attention to a lot of stuff, 25 00:02:22,016 --> 00:02:24,894 but I saw something about her father. 26 00:02:25,562 --> 00:02:27,105 [reporter 1] Posing for the paparazzi… 27 00:02:27,188 --> 00:02:29,482 [reporter 2] In exchange for photos, he got cash… 28 00:02:29,566 --> 00:02:31,442 [reporter 3] This is tabloid fodder. 29 00:02:31,526 --> 00:02:33,695 They are going crazy with this story this morning. 30 00:02:33,778 --> 00:02:37,198 I found it to be hurtful if he were my father. 31 00:02:39,367 --> 00:02:43,955 And I couldn't even imagine this woman finding the man that she loved, 32 00:02:44,038 --> 00:02:45,832 the man of her dreams and him being a prince, 33 00:02:45,915 --> 00:02:48,084 and then to walk into all of that madness 34 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:51,212 and need the security of family, and then have, 35 00:02:51,754 --> 00:02:54,299 you know, your father do some horrible things. 36 00:02:54,382 --> 00:02:56,593 [male reporter] We just broke a big, fat story. 37 00:02:56,676 --> 00:03:00,638 [female reporter] It says it clearly. Meghan's dad not going to the wedding. 38 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:06,019 When my life changed and success started to come, 39 00:03:06,102 --> 00:03:07,896 family members became different people. 40 00:03:07,979 --> 00:03:10,064 And I know how hurtful and how horrible it can be. 41 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:12,650 [crowd cheering] 42 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:14,360 [Tyler] I immediately empathized with her. 43 00:03:16,571 --> 00:03:18,823 This was before the wedding. And I sent her a note, 44 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,703 just praying for her just to be able to move through it 45 00:03:23,786 --> 00:03:27,081 and hold on, and let her know that everything in her life 46 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:29,751 had prepared her for this moment, or so I thought. 47 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:33,421 -[crowd cheering] -[poignant piano music playing] 48 00:03:37,383 --> 00:03:41,179 [Meghan] That's where Tyler came into the picture. I'd never met him before. 49 00:03:41,262 --> 00:03:44,224 He sent me a letter before the wedding just saying he was praying for me. 50 00:03:45,683 --> 00:03:48,186 And that if I ever need anything, he would be there. 51 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,022 [bell chimes] 52 00:03:54,692 --> 00:03:56,486 [Meghan] Months and months and months went by. 53 00:03:57,654 --> 00:03:59,572 [Meghan whispering] Okay. Go on. 54 00:04:02,867 --> 00:04:05,453 [Meghan] And then one day, when we were in Canada, I had called him. 55 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:11,334 Finally, after years at that point, first time we ever spoke… 56 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,882 and I was just a wreck, I was just crying and crying. 57 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:24,681 Sometimes it's easier to just open up to someone who knows nothing at all. 58 00:04:25,306 --> 00:04:26,975 And that was that moment with me and Tyler. 59 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:28,268 I could hear the fear. 60 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:30,812 It was palpable. I mean, I could hear it. 61 00:04:30,895 --> 00:04:33,273 So I asked her, what was she afraid of? 62 00:04:33,356 --> 00:04:38,903 And she took a deep breath and she started listing the things, "I'm afraid of…" 63 00:04:39,737 --> 00:04:42,115 And I said to her, "Every one of your fears are valid." 64 00:04:42,198 --> 00:04:45,868 You know, the most that I knew about the royal family 65 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:48,162 was around Princess Diana's death. 66 00:04:50,164 --> 00:04:51,207 [man] Get down. 67 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:53,626 [man] No. 68 00:04:54,252 --> 00:04:56,087 [photographer] One without the tennis racket? 69 00:04:56,170 --> 00:04:57,797 -[Diana] No. -[photographer] Please. 70 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,884 [Tyler] There's a moment I'll never forget where she's walking through the airport 71 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:04,512 and she has a tennis racket in front of her face 72 00:05:04,595 --> 00:05:09,267 and she's trying to get away from the press, and they're all over her. 73 00:05:11,102 --> 00:05:16,107 And I realized that, after the marriage ended, 74 00:05:16,190 --> 00:05:17,775 she was thrown to the wolves. 75 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:19,610 [indistinct chatter] 76 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:22,822 -[Princess Diana] Out. Out. -[security man] Out, out. Out. 77 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:28,578 -Out. Out. O-U-T, out. -[photographer] Have a nice trip, ma'am. 78 00:05:30,705 --> 00:05:34,250 So to tell Meghan that I felt her feelings were valid hurt. 79 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:37,545 I didn't want to have to say that to her. I didn't want her to feel that. 80 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:40,256 But I didn't want to lie to her. 81 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:44,802 [soft music playing] 82 00:05:45,386 --> 00:05:49,932 [Tyler] She was afraid of them destroying her, or going crazy, 83 00:05:50,016 --> 00:05:52,352 or them making her think she was crazy. 84 00:05:52,435 --> 00:05:55,104 [woman 1] British public opinion is that it's all Meghan's fault. 85 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:57,940 -[woman 2] She's a controlling woman. -[man] The tabloids have turned. 86 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:00,109 [Tyler] I saw my mother be abused for years. 87 00:06:00,735 --> 00:06:02,737 I knew the symptoms. I knew what it was like. 88 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:06,741 Everyone's like, "Tyler, how dare you compare this to the abuse of your mother?" 89 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:10,620 This woman was abused. And so was he. 90 00:06:10,703 --> 00:06:12,705 [woman 1] They're trying to upset everybody. 91 00:06:12,789 --> 00:06:15,583 [man 1] The Queen will be feeling very let down and very angry. 92 00:06:15,666 --> 00:06:18,336 -[woman 2] …blindsided… -[man 2] No idea the statement was coming. 93 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:22,382 [Tyler] To use the institution to try and do all the things a batterer would do, 94 00:06:22,465 --> 00:06:26,511 like, "We're gonna cut off the money. We're gonna not leave you security." 95 00:06:26,594 --> 00:06:29,889 "We're gonna do all those things to make you comply and come back." 96 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:34,060 And for the both of them to have the wherewithal to say, 97 00:06:34,644 --> 00:06:39,232 "I don't give a damn if it's the palace. I'm out of here," I applauded that. 98 00:06:40,775 --> 00:06:43,111 We stayed in touch, and when we needed to go, he said, 99 00:06:43,194 --> 00:06:46,030 "What can we do to make it easier? How can I help you?" 100 00:06:46,114 --> 00:06:50,535 [soft piano music playing] 101 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:56,499 [Harry] So this was like a week before COVID. 102 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:59,001 And we'd be stuck at this house 103 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:03,923 where everyone in the world knew where we were. Unprotected, no security. 104 00:07:07,593 --> 00:07:09,011 [Tyler] They just wanted to be free. 105 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:10,972 They wanted to be free to love and be happy. 106 00:07:11,055 --> 00:07:13,266 They didn't… They did not have a plan. 107 00:07:13,349 --> 00:07:15,518 Everyone's like, "Oh, there's this…" There was no plan. 108 00:07:19,647 --> 00:07:22,483 [Meghan] He's like, "My house is safe. I'll make sure you have security." 109 00:07:22,567 --> 00:07:23,443 "Take your time." 110 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:27,029 I was like, "If we could stay for a week, then we can find somewhere we can live." 111 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:30,199 He's like, "You're not gonna stay a week. You're gonna stay as long as you need." 112 00:07:30,283 --> 00:07:31,951 "I'm gonna get you there safely." 113 00:07:32,034 --> 00:07:35,538 "And I'm gonna keep you there safely until you have somewhere to go." 114 00:07:48,801 --> 00:07:53,222 For the first six weeks that we were here, we were able to walk around like this. 115 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:55,892 -Yeah. -[Harry] The two of us would be up here. 116 00:07:55,975 --> 00:07:59,061 -Archie, sort of walking along here. -[Tyler] Yeah. 117 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:00,646 The dogs running around. 118 00:08:01,230 --> 00:08:03,065 [Tyler] You hadn't seen the house. 119 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:06,402 [Harry] We only saw you filming from the gate up to your door 120 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:07,945 and seeing the big fountain there. 121 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:11,032 -We're like, "That'll do." Just like… -[Tyler laughs] 122 00:08:11,115 --> 00:08:14,952 [Tyler] What if I had horrible taste and a big, round bed with stripper poles? 123 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:17,205 It wouldn't have… It wouldn't have mattered. 124 00:08:17,288 --> 00:08:19,081 We were so… We were desperate to find someone… 125 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:21,083 -Desperate to be somewhere for… -[Tyler] Yeah. 126 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:23,044 -You know, a long… -[Tyler] To settle. 127 00:08:23,127 --> 00:08:27,423 We had… We had… We had, um… We had 13 suitcases, I remember. 128 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:30,718 You said, "Stay as long as you need to." We're like, "Maybe we just stay forever." 129 00:08:30,801 --> 00:08:32,678 -[Meghan] Good boy, Guy. -[Guy panting] 130 00:08:32,762 --> 00:08:34,222 [soft piano music plays] 131 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:37,642 [Meghan] So we finally get a little slice of freedom. 132 00:08:37,725 --> 00:08:40,061 [Meghan laughs] How you feeling, my love? 133 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:42,480 Will you go long ways? 134 00:08:45,233 --> 00:08:47,401 -I think it's better. -[Meghan] Ever the director. 135 00:08:47,944 --> 00:08:51,656 [Harry] It was bliss. Because no one knew we were there. 136 00:08:52,156 --> 00:08:54,200 [Meghan] I spy our security guy. 137 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,745 -Where is he? -[Harry] Matt's hiding in the bush. 138 00:08:58,246 --> 00:09:00,665 -[Meghan] Do you see? He's right there. -[dog panting] 139 00:09:01,332 --> 00:09:03,084 Look at it. It's amazing we found this place. 140 00:09:03,167 --> 00:09:04,001 [Harry] Guy! 141 00:09:04,085 --> 00:09:06,170 [Meghan] It's secret, and so at least during COVID-19, 142 00:09:06,254 --> 00:09:07,922 we can take the dogs for a walk 143 00:09:08,005 --> 00:09:11,592 and have a little slice of normal life. 144 00:09:11,676 --> 00:09:12,969 Come on! Come on. 145 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:14,804 [Meghan] Let's get back home to Archie. 146 00:09:16,055 --> 00:09:17,807 And then we've been… [laughs] 147 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,017 [dogs panting] 148 00:09:20,101 --> 00:09:21,227 My family. 149 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:25,606 [baby laughing] 150 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:26,899 [Meghan] Hey! 151 00:09:26,983 --> 00:09:30,903 For me, it didn't matter where they landed, you know. I… 152 00:09:31,696 --> 00:09:35,324 I just wanted them to be happy, and so that I could be with them. 153 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:38,911 -[Meghan squeals] -[Archie laughs] 154 00:09:38,995 --> 00:09:42,790 And obviously not having to take any long flights made a heck of a difference. 155 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:44,041 [Archie squeals] 156 00:09:44,125 --> 00:09:45,418 [Meghan] Where are we walking? 157 00:09:45,501 --> 00:09:46,961 [Meghan] Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. 158 00:09:47,461 --> 00:09:49,630 Archie took his very first steps right here. 159 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:54,135 -I mean, this house was… -Here. 160 00:09:54,802 --> 00:09:55,636 Right here. 161 00:09:57,597 --> 00:09:59,599 -[Harry] What's going on, my love? -[Meghan chuckles] 162 00:09:59,682 --> 00:10:03,686 We are making this balloon arch for Archie's first birthday-- 163 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:06,272 -[Harry] It doesn't look like an arch. -It'll get there. 164 00:10:06,355 --> 00:10:08,399 -[Harry] Will it? -We have to blow all these up. 165 00:10:08,482 --> 00:10:10,276 -[Harry] Hey! -And use these. 166 00:10:10,359 --> 00:10:13,613 And… follow the instructions. 167 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:14,530 [Harry] Great. 168 00:10:15,072 --> 00:10:16,782 [blows raspberry] 169 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:23,122 [poignant piano music playing] 170 00:10:29,962 --> 00:10:31,839 [Harry] We were there for six weeks. No one knew. 171 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:34,884 My family still thought I was in Canada. 172 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:39,555 Every day, I would look on the… Google. "Nope, they don't know yet!" 173 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,142 We talked and they'd laugh, and they were doing so well. They'd send me videos. 174 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:49,398 [Meghan] Our son turned one today. 175 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:55,112 -And it's beautiful out. -It's gorgeous out. 176 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:57,698 [Meghan] And it's not our home. But we're grateful. 177 00:10:57,782 --> 00:10:59,742 But there's a world in which it could be our home. 178 00:10:59,825 --> 00:11:03,996 [both laughing] 179 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,874 [female reporter] Tyler Perry joins us now from Atlanta. 180 00:11:06,957 --> 00:11:08,751 It's been widely reported 181 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:11,545 that Meghan and Harry are living at your place in Los Angeles. 182 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:13,381 Can you tell us how they're doing? 183 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:16,384 -You speak English? -I'm sorry. 184 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:19,470 I think I just lost… I just lost you. I just lost you, Gayle. 185 00:11:19,553 --> 00:11:22,181 I'm sorry. We have a bad, really bad connection. 186 00:11:24,392 --> 00:11:28,145 So, here we are, two days after Archie's birthday, 187 00:11:29,271 --> 00:11:32,775 uh, and a day after the Mail… 188 00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:36,529 And a day after the Mail, um, 189 00:11:36,612 --> 00:11:39,198 once again pinpointed our location and put it on their website. 190 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:43,119 [mouse clicking] 191 00:11:43,202 --> 00:11:46,497 [Harry] It was six weeks into us being in Canada that they found out, 192 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:51,127 and it was six weeks to us being in Tyler's house that they found out. 193 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:54,422 [Harry] Anyway, let me just show you what we're having to now do. 194 00:11:55,965 --> 00:12:00,594 And these large poles are basically the construction of a fence 195 00:12:00,678 --> 00:12:06,350 to stop paparazzi from taking photographs from three, four hundred meters away. 196 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:09,812 And as ridiculous and as absurd as this is, 197 00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:12,815 you kind of have to laugh about it, because it is madness. 198 00:12:12,898 --> 00:12:17,194 [tense music playing] 199 00:12:17,278 --> 00:12:19,238 [Harry whispering] It's almost five in the morning. 200 00:12:20,448 --> 00:12:22,324 Archie's waking up because of this. 201 00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:24,785 [Meghan] Oh my God. They're just circling. 202 00:12:27,371 --> 00:12:28,998 What is wrong with these people? 203 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:33,043 [Tyler] I've been in that house for many, many years, 204 00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:37,256 and across the canyon are all these other celebrities, 205 00:12:37,339 --> 00:12:40,760 and no one had seen an assault like this. 206 00:12:40,843 --> 00:12:42,803 [Meghan] Haz, is my mom outside with Archie? 207 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:46,182 [Tyler] With helicopters 24/7. 208 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:49,268 -[Harry] The second one today. -[Tyler] Drones flying over it. 209 00:12:53,814 --> 00:12:57,651 We would go up every day, the chain link on the fence would be cut 210 00:12:57,735 --> 00:13:01,238 and people would sneak in onto my property. 211 00:13:01,322 --> 00:13:03,574 I had to put all the cameras up on the hill there. 212 00:13:03,657 --> 00:13:07,620 Had to plant more trees, all just… Just… It was just… It was crazy. 213 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:14,001 [Harry] What are you doing? 214 00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:21,008 I am writing more things, um… 215 00:13:22,593 --> 00:13:24,428 to battle the Mail. 216 00:13:25,387 --> 00:13:26,764 And their insanity. 217 00:13:29,391 --> 00:13:30,476 [tense music continues] 218 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,395 [Meghan] This entire case against Associated Newspapers 219 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:36,816 which has the Mail and the Mail Online, it was about a letter I wrote to my dad. 220 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:38,025 [wistful music playing] 221 00:13:38,108 --> 00:13:41,153 The Mail published it. They know that it's unlawful to do so. 222 00:13:41,737 --> 00:13:46,617 That's all this is about. Just apologize… and don't do it again. 223 00:13:47,576 --> 00:13:48,953 It's really that simple. 224 00:13:49,453 --> 00:13:50,913 But instead it's like, "Or…" 225 00:13:52,081 --> 00:13:53,624 [clicks tongue] 226 00:13:53,707 --> 00:13:54,917 "…let's make a fortune." 227 00:13:56,126 --> 00:14:00,214 "Let's create an entire tab on our homepage with her name…" 228 00:14:00,297 --> 00:14:01,340 [sad music playing] 229 00:14:01,423 --> 00:14:04,176 "…and just run constant stuff on this litigation, 230 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:08,848 and twist and turn things to create an implant with members of the public." 231 00:14:09,473 --> 00:14:12,810 They're saying this was all part of my strategy and tactic 232 00:14:13,394 --> 00:14:15,771 to have a better reputation. 233 00:14:16,313 --> 00:14:19,733 [Meghan] Then the defense says, "We'd like disclosure from you." 234 00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:21,819 "We need to access your email and your phone 235 00:14:21,902 --> 00:14:24,238 for this case, based on these terms," 236 00:14:24,905 --> 00:14:25,781 "I love you." 237 00:14:27,324 --> 00:14:28,158 "Archie." 238 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:30,369 "Kate." 239 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:32,037 "William." 240 00:14:34,081 --> 00:14:35,583 -"Africa." -"Africa." 241 00:14:39,128 --> 00:14:42,256 Sorry, what? What does that have to do with this lawsuit? 242 00:14:42,339 --> 00:14:45,050 [Harry] My darling wife has just been sent the skeleton argument 243 00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:49,013 of the ridiculousness of the Mail case. 244 00:14:49,096 --> 00:14:52,558 [Meghan] Archie wasn't even born when you published the letter I wrote to my dad. 245 00:14:52,641 --> 00:14:56,645 -They are making a fortune off of us. -[Harry] The press will never settle. 246 00:14:57,146 --> 00:15:01,692 They will always push, because they will use a privacy litigation 247 00:15:01,775 --> 00:15:04,236 to further invade your privacy, like they did with my wife. 248 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,529 But my mum always said, 249 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:07,948 "If they're writing crap about you in the tabloids, 250 00:15:08,032 --> 00:15:09,575 you're probably doing the right thing." 251 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:15,122 So I've always felt as though this was a fight worth fighting for. 252 00:15:15,205 --> 00:15:19,460 [tense music playing] 253 00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:22,588 [Jenny] The tabloids pretty much run the argument that, 254 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:26,133 if you're in the public eye, you've given up your rights to privacy. 255 00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:31,972 In this case, the Mail on Sunday ran the whole kitchen sink defense. 256 00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:34,391 They threw everything in. 257 00:15:34,475 --> 00:15:37,853 Things like, "Um, Meghan's not entitled to any privacy, 258 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,897 because she's a member of the royal family." 259 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:41,690 "If she didn't want us to publish her letter, 260 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,567 she should have been nicer to her father." 261 00:15:45,152 --> 00:15:46,278 How many people… 262 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:51,742 [Jenny] Meghan and I would be texting at 1 a.m. or 3 a.m. her time. 263 00:15:51,825 --> 00:15:55,287 She'd be awake, unable to sleep, 264 00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:58,290 thinking about this case, and the wider issues, 265 00:15:58,374 --> 00:16:01,043 and the toll it was taking. 266 00:16:01,126 --> 00:16:04,171 [reporter 1] The couple's war with the tabloids now escalating. 267 00:16:04,254 --> 00:16:07,549 [reporter 2] Harry and Meghan are going to have to give up more intimate details 268 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:10,928 to prove their case, and therefore, it does seem a bit self-defeating. 269 00:16:11,011 --> 00:16:16,141 [Jenny] I knew the stress the latest development was having on Meghan, 270 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:21,438 and that was that the Mail were going to argue that Meghan's friends 271 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:24,441 had already spoken about the letter to People Magazine 272 00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:28,028 and that Meghan had authorized that interview, which she hadn't. 273 00:16:28,112 --> 00:16:31,407 [female presenter] Meghan is going to deny any involvement in interviews 274 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:33,701 given by five of her friends to People Magazine. 275 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:36,870 [Meghan] I don't know how many pages the article itself was, 276 00:16:36,954 --> 00:16:39,540 but within it there were, 277 00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:42,459 I think, a few sentences 278 00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:45,587 that pertained to my father and the fact that I'd reached out to him. 279 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:48,465 We all knew that Meghan had written her father a letter. 280 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:51,885 I did not catch in that People Magazine story 281 00:16:51,969 --> 00:16:53,762 that someone mentioned the letter. 282 00:16:54,388 --> 00:16:57,516 [female voice] It was this People story that referenced Thomas Markle's letter 283 00:16:57,599 --> 00:17:00,227 and prompted him to share it with the Mail on Sunday. 284 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:05,607 You even do something in total love, and that is for good, 285 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:08,318 and they find one piece, 286 00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:12,656 and then it becomes this whole other thing. 287 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:14,450 They ran the false claim 288 00:17:14,533 --> 00:17:18,162 that Meghan had authorized this interview with People Magazine. 289 00:17:18,245 --> 00:17:21,874 So the argument was she had therefore given up all rights, 290 00:17:21,957 --> 00:17:23,959 anything to do with the letter whatsoever. 291 00:17:25,377 --> 00:17:31,717 And Associated said all of her friends' identities should be revealed 292 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,177 as part of the case. 293 00:17:33,969 --> 00:17:35,763 [Meghan] I said, "Absolutely not." 294 00:17:37,431 --> 00:17:39,683 I just felt it was important to protect them 295 00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:41,727 in the way that they were trying to protect me. 296 00:17:42,478 --> 00:17:48,025 And that was right in the same week that we moved into our home in Santa Barbara. 297 00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:57,242 [Abigail] I'm driving up like, "We're gonna unpack. We're gonna get settled." 298 00:17:57,326 --> 00:18:02,247 And Meg is standing outside, waiting for me, and I can tell something's off. 299 00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,001 She's showing me the home. It's very mixed emotions, 300 00:18:06,085 --> 00:18:08,212 "Here's our new home," but she's like, 301 00:18:08,837 --> 00:18:10,339 "I'm having a lot of pain." 302 00:18:12,883 --> 00:18:17,262 She was holding Archie and she just fell to the ground and… 303 00:18:19,223 --> 00:18:22,434 [exhales loudly, sniffling] 304 00:18:23,018 --> 00:18:26,230 I was pregnant, I really wasn't sleeping. 305 00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:28,440 And, um… 306 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:33,028 The first morning that we woke up in our new home is when I miscarried. 307 00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:48,293 [Harry] I believe my wife suffered a miscarriage because of what the Mail did. 308 00:18:49,837 --> 00:18:51,171 I watched the whole thing. 309 00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:59,221 Now, do we absolutely know that the miscarriage was created, caused by that? 310 00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:00,389 Course we don't. 311 00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:02,599 But bearing in mind the stress that that caused, 312 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,811 the lack of sleep, and the timing of the pregnancy, 313 00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:07,229 how many weeks in she was, 314 00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:10,065 I can say, from what I saw, 315 00:19:10,732 --> 00:19:14,027 that miscarriage was created by what they were trying to do to her. 316 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:15,571 [sad music playing] 317 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:18,574 [keyboard clicking] 318 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,337 [Doria] I thought she was brave and courageous. 319 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,841 But that doesn't surprise me, because she is brave and courageous. 320 00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:40,220 Yeah. 321 00:19:46,768 --> 00:19:51,982 [Meghan] When I reveal things that are moments of vulnerability, 322 00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:56,153 when it comes to having a miscarriage and maybe having felt ashamed about that, 323 00:19:56,236 --> 00:19:59,907 like, "It's okay. You're human. It's okay to talk about that." 324 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:04,703 And I could make the choice to never talk about those things, 325 00:20:04,786 --> 00:20:06,747 or I could make the choice to say, 326 00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:09,541 "With all the bad that comes with this, 327 00:20:09,625 --> 00:20:11,835 the good is being able to help other people." 328 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:17,424 That's the point of life, right? Is connection and community like that. 329 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:23,722 [male presenter] It really resonates when you read about her in hospital 330 00:20:23,805 --> 00:20:25,724 with her husband, Prince Harry. 331 00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:27,601 Uh, she describes him as heartbroken, 332 00:20:27,684 --> 00:20:32,022 trying to think what she can ask him, and she simply says, "Are you okay?" 333 00:20:32,105 --> 00:20:35,025 [woman] Everybody can relate to that question, "Are you okay?" 334 00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:37,361 And do we ask it to each other often enough? 335 00:20:37,444 --> 00:20:40,322 [female presenter] The piece is also very much a rallying cry 336 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:43,659 for people to support each other during what she describes 337 00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:47,537 as "a year of loss and pain for every one of us." 338 00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:52,918 Buckingham Palace says it won't be commenting on a deeply personal matter. 339 00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:56,004 [Harry] Archie, come say hi to the team. 340 00:20:56,755 --> 00:20:57,798 Say, "Hi, James." 341 00:20:57,881 --> 00:20:59,174 [Archie] Hi, James. 342 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:01,343 -[Harry] "Hi, Michael." -[Archie] Hi, Michael. 343 00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:04,096 -[Harry] And "Hi, Christine." -[Archie] Hi, Christine. 344 00:21:04,179 --> 00:21:05,764 -[Meghan] Oh! -[Harry laughing] 345 00:21:05,847 --> 00:21:08,058 -[Meghan] That's so good! -[Harry] Good job. 346 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,062 Uh, it's been… It's been… It's been a busy week! 347 00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:13,772 [man] It's been a week. 348 00:21:13,855 --> 00:21:19,611 [Tim Burt] They wanted to continue with their non-royal patronages 349 00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:22,864 and causes around mental health, 350 00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:26,201 around the environment, around gender equity. 351 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,161 I love investing in female entrepreneurs, 352 00:21:28,245 --> 00:21:31,540 so this is the kind of stuff I spend a lot of time looking at. 353 00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:36,211 [Tim Burt] Increasingly, as the pandemic started to take hold, 354 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:37,879 around vaccine equity. 355 00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:40,507 [soft piano music playing] 356 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:42,759 [Harry] My wife and I believe… 357 00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:45,929 [crown cheering] 358 00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:54,813 [Harry laughs] 359 00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:57,816 My wife and I believe that where you're born 360 00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,569 should not dictate your ability to survive. 361 00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:02,821 [crowd cheering] 362 00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:08,243 [Tim Burt] And it was really a kind of fact-finding exercise 363 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:12,748 about the areas that they could be activists around, 364 00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:16,668 and the areas where they could convene groups together. 365 00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:18,253 We've partnered with the team here 366 00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:22,132 to create the NAACP Archewell Digital Civil Rights Award. 367 00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:24,593 I mean, one of the things that we've continued to say 368 00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:28,305 is if we're gonna have this glaring microscope on us at all times, 369 00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:31,308 if people are looking at us, then look at what we're looking at. 370 00:22:31,391 --> 00:22:34,978 The only wrong thing to say is to say nothing. 371 00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:36,104 [soft music playing] 372 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:42,861 Because… George Floyd's life mattered, and Breonna Taylor's life mattered, 373 00:22:42,944 --> 00:22:47,449 and Philando Castile's life mattered, and Tamir Rice's life mattered. 374 00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:48,575 [Meghan] Oh my gosh. 375 00:22:48,658 --> 00:22:50,827 -[car horn hoots] -[crowd clamoring] 376 00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:53,246 [Meghan] And so did so many other people 377 00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:56,166 whose names we know and whose names we do not know. 378 00:22:56,249 --> 00:23:00,253 [woman on TV] This is the police chief. Have you ever heard that in your life? 379 00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:03,173 I know, sometimes people say, "How many times do we need to rebuild?" 380 00:23:03,256 --> 00:23:05,467 Well, you know what? We are going to rebuild 381 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,595 and rebuild and rebuild until it is rebuilt. 382 00:23:08,678 --> 00:23:14,851 [Harry humming] 383 00:23:15,685 --> 00:23:18,939 ♪ Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight ♪ 384 00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:20,774 [Meghan whispering indistinctly] 385 00:23:26,363 --> 00:23:27,239 [Archie babbles] 386 00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:30,325 [Meghan] What's Papa doing? Are we getting oranges? 387 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,205 Are you… Yes. Can you put them in the basket? 388 00:23:35,288 --> 00:23:38,291 Ready? Catch. Oh. 389 00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,503 ["Brand New Day" by Miriam Makeba playing] 390 00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:43,713 [Meghan] I know. There's Pula. 391 00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:49,636 -[Harry squeals] -♪ When all the dark clouds roll away ♪ 392 00:23:52,139 --> 00:23:55,308 ♪ And the sun begins to shine… ♪ 393 00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:56,226 No, let's go. 394 00:23:56,309 --> 00:23:59,062 [laughing] 395 00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:05,485 ♪ I see my freedom from across the way ♪ 396 00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:10,657 ♪ And it comes right in on time ♪ 397 00:24:11,408 --> 00:24:17,205 ♪ Well, it shines so bright And it gives… ♪ 398 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:19,916 [Doria] Nice try. Are you trying to bunt the ball? 399 00:24:20,584 --> 00:24:23,712 ♪ And it comes right from the sky above… ♪ 400 00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:26,047 [Meghan] Hello. Bonjour. [laughs] 401 00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:29,342 ♪ Makes me feel so free ♪ 402 00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:34,473 ♪ Makes me feel like me, yeah… ♪ 403 00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:36,475 -[Meghan] We've gone rogue. -We've gone rogue. 404 00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:37,893 [Meghan] See us come down here. 405 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:41,563 We're gonna have the beach to ourself, or there's gonna be, like, a filming set 406 00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:43,940 on the beach we've just walked to. 407 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:45,192 [Harry laughing] 408 00:24:45,275 --> 00:24:46,359 He's so fun. 409 00:24:46,443 --> 00:24:50,113 -♪ And it seems like ♪ -♪ Seems like ♪ 410 00:24:50,197 --> 00:24:52,699 -♪ Oh, yes, it feels like ♪ -♪ Feels like ♪ 411 00:24:52,782 --> 00:24:56,620 ♪ A brand new day… ♪ 412 00:24:56,703 --> 00:24:58,747 [Harry] This is really cold. Woo! 413 00:24:59,623 --> 00:25:04,002 ♪ A brand new day, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 414 00:25:04,085 --> 00:25:07,130 -♪ Oh yeah ♪ -♪ Yeah, yeah… ♪ 415 00:25:07,756 --> 00:25:10,175 -And also, we're pregnant. -[Harry gasps] 416 00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:14,095 ♪ Double crossed… ♪ 417 00:25:14,804 --> 00:25:19,184 -Oh, my goodness. My love. -♪ With my hands behind my back ♪ 418 00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:23,897 ♪ I was long time hurt… ♪ 419 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:26,399 [Harry] Beautiful. Our own beach. 420 00:25:26,483 --> 00:25:32,906 ♪ And thrown in the dirt Shoved out on a railroad track 421 00:25:32,989 --> 00:25:36,952 It was funny, because I'm talking and they both look a little smirky. 422 00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,788 A little like, "Hm." And I was like, "Something's…" 423 00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:41,957 Like, they're smiling a bit too much. It's a Zoom. 424 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,166 You know, "What's going on?" 425 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:47,379 And um, near the end of the Zoom, you know, Meg stands up. 426 00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:52,300 ♪ But I stood and looked… ♪ 427 00:25:53,677 --> 00:25:55,971 [Misan] I just freak out. I freak out. 428 00:25:56,054 --> 00:25:58,765 Because I know what they've been through to get to that place. 429 00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:01,393 And, uh, they're like, "It's gotta be you, 430 00:26:01,476 --> 00:26:04,771 helping us tell the world that we have new life in our lives." 431 00:26:04,854 --> 00:26:09,109 -♪ And it seems like and it feels like ♪ -♪ Seems like, feels like… ♪ 432 00:26:09,192 --> 00:26:11,820 [Misan] It felt, at least I could do something 433 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:15,156 to use my imagery to almost protect them if I could. 434 00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:22,205 -♪ A brand new day, ooh ♪ -♪ A brand new day, yeah ♪ 435 00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:25,083 -♪ A brand new day ♪ -♪ A brand new day, yeah… ♪ 436 00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:26,585 [Harry] Once we announced it, 437 00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:29,087 I got two messages from two completely different people 438 00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:31,506 who sent me the front page 439 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:36,177 of Valentine's Day, 1984, 440 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:41,016 of my mother announcing that she was pregnant with me. 441 00:26:42,517 --> 00:26:43,393 I was shocked. 442 00:26:45,395 --> 00:26:47,772 We had no idea. It was just a coincidence. 443 00:26:49,357 --> 00:26:50,734 Or maybe not a coincidence. 444 00:26:51,693 --> 00:26:54,654 [reporter] On the heels of Harry and Meghan's pregnancy announcement, 445 00:26:54,738 --> 00:26:57,449 the couple will now share their story publicly, 446 00:26:57,532 --> 00:27:01,578 giving Oprah Winfrey their first interview since they stepped away from… 447 00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:05,624 [interviewer] Tell us about the thinking about sitting with Oprah. 448 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:10,337 Um, well, Oprah had originally reached out to us 449 00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:12,964 through the communications director at Kensington Palace. 450 00:27:13,048 --> 00:27:16,051 There was excitement. I remember that. [laughing] And then I think we talked-- 451 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,887 Well, yeah, 'cause Oprah… Oprah, to you, is like… 452 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,013 -It's Oprah! -Yeah. 453 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,434 -♪ Happy birthday, dear Meghan ♪ -[Meghan] No way. 454 00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:27,729 -[man] ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ -[Meghan] Thank you. 455 00:27:28,897 --> 00:27:32,275 Yay! Yay! 456 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,404 The timing of when we would talk to her just kept changing. 457 00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:39,908 [both laughing] 458 00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,285 -[Harry] We made it to the beach. -We made it to the beach. 459 00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:43,870 [Harry] Doing what everybody else does. 460 00:27:44,704 --> 00:27:47,415 [Harry] We were here for a year. 461 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:48,375 [chicken clucking] 462 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,126 We've got chickens! 463 00:27:51,086 --> 00:27:52,587 [Harry] Until we actually did it. 464 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:57,342 And sitting down with Oprah was a reaction to what had happened that year. 465 00:27:57,425 --> 00:28:02,681 The more distance that came between us having a smaller role with the institution 466 00:28:02,764 --> 00:28:05,475 and coming over here, the more of a vacuum was being built. 467 00:28:05,558 --> 00:28:08,978 And people just genuinely didn't understand why we left. 468 00:28:09,062 --> 00:28:12,315 We thought that was the beginning of our year of transition, which it turns out 469 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,275 was anything but a transition. 470 00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:16,778 It was just a beating. [clears throat] 471 00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:20,615 They are three of the most recognizable people on the planet. 472 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:23,034 Oprah, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. 473 00:28:23,118 --> 00:28:26,621 And they're now coming together for one of the biggest interviews of the decade. 474 00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,625 [male presenter] But before that sit-down is set to premiere, Buckingham Palace, 475 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,085 in an unprecedented move, 476 00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:36,297 opened an investigation into bullying allegations against Meghan. 477 00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:39,092 The timing of the bullying story 478 00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:45,557 has even been admitted by the journalist that wrote it 479 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,142 that it was done 480 00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:51,396 explicitly because of the Oprah interview. 481 00:28:51,479 --> 00:28:54,315 Harry and Meghan's spokesperson tells us and The Times this, 482 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,236 "The Duchess is saddened by this latest attack on her character, 483 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,990 particularly as someone who has been the target of bullying herself 484 00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:03,992 and is deeply committed to supporting those 485 00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,411 who have experienced pain and trauma." 486 00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:07,746 "Let's just call it what it is." 487 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,542 "A calculated smear campaign based on misleading and harmful misinformation." 488 00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:17,547 You could tell… I was like, "Oh my gosh, someone's panicking over there." 489 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:22,385 [reporter] A long-simmering feud between Harry and Meghan, and palace staff, 490 00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:25,180 people Princess Diana called "the men in grey suits", 491 00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:29,100 is boiling over with this explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey. 492 00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:33,521 I can't think what my mum went through all those years ago by herself. 493 00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:40,820 To see this institutional gaslighting that happens is… 494 00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:42,822 It is extraordinary. 495 00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:46,743 Um, and that's why everything that's happened to us 496 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,078 was always gonna happen to us. 497 00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:52,874 Because if you speak truth to power, that's how they respond. 498 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:57,796 [Oprah] Tonight, for the first time, they tell their story. 499 00:29:58,463 --> 00:30:02,008 [Meghan] That interview, it was less about setting the record straight 500 00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:06,513 than at least filling in the blanks that other people were filling in for us. 501 00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:09,641 …and when you say, "Was it what it looked like?" 502 00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,061 My understanding and my experience of the past four years 503 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,021 is it's nothing like what it looks like. 504 00:30:15,104 --> 00:30:19,192 Whatever we were creating and whatever new path we were trying to forge, 505 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,320 you couldn't really do that without some clarity. 506 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,783 [Oprah] So how does that work? Were you told to keep silent? 507 00:30:26,866 --> 00:30:29,285 How were you told to handle tabloids? 508 00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:34,666 Everyone in my world, um, was given a very clear directive 509 00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:36,960 from the moment the world knew Harry and I were dating 510 00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:38,336 to always say, "No comment." 511 00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:40,088 -And we did. -Mm-hm. 512 00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:42,340 I did anything they told me to do. Of course I did. 513 00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:46,052 Because it was also through the lens of, "And we'll protect you." 514 00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:52,475 [Oprah] There's a conversation about how dark your baby is going to be? 515 00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:57,438 That conversation I am never going to share. 516 00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:03,403 [Oprah] You said in a podcast that it became almost un-survivable. 517 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:10,243 And that struck me, because it sounds like you were in some kind of mental trouble. 518 00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:11,953 What was actually going on? 519 00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:14,664 I would sit up at night, and I was just like, 520 00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,750 "I don't understand how all of this is being churned out." 521 00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:18,793 I wasn't seeing it, 522 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:24,090 but it's almost worse when you feel it through the expression of my mom 523 00:31:24,173 --> 00:31:26,551 or my friends, or them calling me crying, just like, 524 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:29,721 "Meg. They're not protecting you." 525 00:31:29,804 --> 00:31:35,810 And I realized that it was all happening just because I was breathing, 526 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:39,522 and I just didn't… I just didn't want to be alive anymore. 527 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:45,278 We didn't see it until the world saw it. And it's interesting. 528 00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:53,745 I thought that me being very open about 529 00:31:55,538 --> 00:32:00,418 the depression that I experienced and just how extreme that became… 530 00:32:00,501 --> 00:32:02,587 I thought that would be the biggest takeaway. 531 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,090 [Oprah] Thank you both for trusting me to share your story. 532 00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,343 [Meghan] Thank you for giving us the space to do it. 533 00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:09,469 [Harry] Thank you. 534 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:12,305 [Meghan laughing] 535 00:32:12,388 --> 00:32:15,016 Oh my God. [groans] 536 00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:19,354 [Meghan] But it was entirely eclipsed by the conversation surrounding race. 537 00:32:25,985 --> 00:32:30,156 [bird tweets] 538 00:32:41,501 --> 00:32:43,711 [phone ringing] 539 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:44,754 [Meghan] Hey, Mommy. 540 00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:45,964 [Doria] Hey, what's going on? 541 00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:48,091 [Meghan] Not much. I saw I missed you. Where are you? 542 00:32:48,174 --> 00:32:51,177 [Doria] I just finished walking… Finishing walking the dog. 543 00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:55,348 Nice. Has it been… Has it been noisy around your house? Is anyone there? 544 00:32:55,431 --> 00:32:57,684 -[Doria] No. Actually, no. -Good. Good. 545 00:32:57,767 --> 00:33:01,104 [Doria] Which has been nice. Yeah, I feel proud. 546 00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:03,564 You certainly never deserved any of this. 547 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:07,735 I mean, I've been getting tons of texts about how people are so 548 00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:12,365 in support of you and how you were able to carry yourself so well. 549 00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:14,701 -[Meghan] Thank you. -[Doria] Yeah. 550 00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,285 Keep your big girl panties on. 551 00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,079 [Meghan] Thank you. I will. 552 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,415 -[Doria] Okay, I love you. -The biggest. I love you too. 553 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:21,833 -[Doria] Bye. -[Meghan] Bye. 554 00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,381 -[Meghan] Beyoncé just texted. -[Harry gasps] 555 00:33:28,464 --> 00:33:30,341 [Meghan] Really… [chuckles] 556 00:33:30,425 --> 00:33:32,260 -Shut up. -[Meghan] Just checking in. 557 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:34,887 Just checking in. Just casual. 558 00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,141 I still can't believe… I still can't believe she knows who I am. 559 00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,269 Go and call her. 560 00:33:41,352 --> 00:33:45,898 No, it's okay. She said she wants me to feel safe and protected. 561 00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:49,193 She admires and respects my bravery and vulnerability 562 00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,404 and thinks I was selected to break generational curses 563 00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:52,739 that need to be healed. 564 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,241 Hmm. 565 00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,242 That's well said. 566 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,081 [reporter 1] Have you spoken to your brother since the interview? 567 00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,625 [Prince William] I haven't spoken with him yet, but I will do. 568 00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:08,588 [reporter] And can you let me know, is the royal family a racist family, sir? 569 00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:10,548 [Prince William] We're very much not. 570 00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:13,676 [reporter 2] Sir, what did you think of the interview? 571 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,470 [man] Oh. Thank you very much. 572 00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,555 [Tyler] When I watched, I thought… 573 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,392 "There's so much more she could have said." 574 00:34:22,018 --> 00:34:27,815 But because she's such a classy, elegant woman, she didn't. 575 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:29,442 -[Tyler] Hey. -Hi. 576 00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:33,321 [Tyler] The Palace issued a statement, I understand, but I haven't read it. 577 00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:34,947 [Meghan] Yeah, let me pull it up. 578 00:34:39,952 --> 00:34:40,870 The following statement 579 00:34:40,953 --> 00:34:43,831 issued by Buckingham Palace on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen. 580 00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,293 "The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent 581 00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:50,713 of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan." 582 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:55,218 "The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning." 583 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,346 "While some recollections may vary, 584 00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:02,683 they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately." 585 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,604 "Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much-loved family members." 586 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,108 What am I looking at? 587 00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:14,695 -Wow. -[Harry sniffling] 588 00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:18,366 H just got a text… H just got a text from his brother. 589 00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:21,828 [Tyler] Oh. Yeah. Okay. You guys do that. 590 00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,913 All right, I'll talk to you later on. Thank you. 591 00:35:23,996 --> 00:35:26,040 [Tyler] I'll see you guys-- -We'll see you on Friday. 592 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,459 Okay, bye. Thank you, thank you. Bye. 593 00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:31,212 I wish I knew what to do. 594 00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:35,091 I know. Let's take a breather. Get some air and then decide. 595 00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,051 Um… 596 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,313 -[guitar music playing] -[Harry humming] 597 00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:59,031 I can put them in um, separate little bags so we can divide and conquer. 598 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:02,076 Hey, Grandma. Have we decided what the course is gonna be? 599 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,329 [Meghan] I think what makes the most sense is to have them start right here. 600 00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:06,873 -[Harry] By the bridge? -[Meghan] Yep. 601 00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:09,167 -[Harry] So down, down that side-- -Let's go outside and-- 602 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:12,044 Back across the bridge, up the side of the stream to this bridge here. 603 00:36:12,128 --> 00:36:13,379 -[Meghan] Mm-hm. -Great. Love it. 604 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,923 Done, easy. That's why we're married. 605 00:36:18,509 --> 00:36:19,385 All for that? 606 00:36:20,219 --> 00:36:21,929 The simplicity, really. 607 00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,014 [Meghan giggles] 608 00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:27,727 [Harry] Come on, family. Let's go. 609 00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:56,505 [melancholic music playing] 610 00:37:11,145 --> 00:37:15,900 [indistinct voices on phone] 611 00:37:15,983 --> 00:37:19,028 My grandfather always cruised around in a black taxi in London. 612 00:37:19,111 --> 00:37:21,489 So all of the black taxis have… 613 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,329 lined up all the way down the Mall outside Buckingham Palace. 614 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,539 I don't know if you can see it. 615 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,378 [man 1] Have a look at this. This is outside the palace now. 616 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:40,132 [cabby] Every single black cab in London, looks like they're paying their respects. 617 00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:43,427 Who'd have thought about that, eh? Incredible. 618 00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:50,601 [cabby] Unbelievable, innit? Look, as far… 619 00:37:50,685 --> 00:37:51,727 That's nice. 620 00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:54,855 Oh my God. How is it ten to twelve? 621 00:37:55,398 --> 00:37:57,692 -[Harry groans] -Um… 622 00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:03,614 Quickly… I looked at the, um, UK website 623 00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:06,826 about the access to be able to have a shorter quarantine period. 624 00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:07,743 Yeah. 625 00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:12,206 The earliest you can do the test upon landing is five days after you land. 626 00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:15,626 -So you have to leave tomorrow. -Okay. 627 00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:16,877 And get tested Friday. 628 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,796 -Can I get out tomorrow? -Yeah. 629 00:38:18,879 --> 00:38:19,714 Okay. 630 00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:22,883 Same flight, Maddie's on the phone with American Airlines now. 631 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:26,554 [door shuts] 632 00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:31,684 [car engine starts] 633 00:38:36,939 --> 00:38:41,152 [wistful music playing] 634 00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:58,377 [Harry] My grandfather was a man of service, honor, and great humor. 635 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,881 He will be remembered as the longest reigning consort to the monarch, 636 00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:05,885 a decorated serviceman, a prince, and a duke. 637 00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,847 But to me, he was my grandpa. 638 00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:15,227 Master of the barbecue, legend of banter, and cheeky right till the end. 639 00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:21,567 [Nicky] Harry's respect for his grandfather 640 00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:23,778 was monumentally deep, 641 00:39:23,861 --> 00:39:30,201 and I think a lot of the characteristics that, you know, I love in Harry 642 00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:33,037 are slightly grandfather related. 643 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,373 You know, that ability to put people at ease, 644 00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:38,042 to be fun and to not be stiff and serious, 645 00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,460 I think come from him. 646 00:39:43,881 --> 00:39:48,928 -I know the admiration was huge. -[wistful music continues] 647 00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,313 To be walking behind the coffin again 648 00:40:00,022 --> 00:40:03,275 must have brought up some other stuff as well. 649 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:07,363 I don't have the, uh, qualifications to unpick that, but it must have been a lot. 650 00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,211 [Harry] I was actually really happy for my grandfather. 651 00:40:25,297 --> 00:40:28,467 He went quietly. He went peacefully. He went happily. 652 00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:37,309 [interviewer] Tell me about going back. 653 00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:39,728 What was that like? 654 00:40:40,604 --> 00:40:43,107 [Harry] Um, it was hard. 655 00:40:43,899 --> 00:40:47,611 Especially spending time, having chats with my brother and my father, 656 00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:50,239 who just, you know, were very much, 657 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,702 um, focused on the same misinterpretation of the whole situation. 658 00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,496 So neither… None of us really wanted to have to talk about it 659 00:40:57,580 --> 00:40:59,957 at my grandfather's funeral, but we did. 660 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,461 Um, and, you know, I've had to make peace with the fact 661 00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:06,338 that we're probably never gonna get genuine accountability 662 00:41:06,422 --> 00:41:07,590 or a genuine apology. 663 00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:10,676 You know, my wife and I, we're… We're moving on. 664 00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:14,346 We're focused on the… On what's coming next. 665 00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:21,103 [Meghan chuckles] 666 00:41:29,111 --> 00:41:29,945 [baby cooing] 667 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,909 -[Meghan] It's okay. -[Harry] It's okay. 668 00:41:34,992 --> 00:41:38,787 [Meghan] Here we go. You ready to eat? Let's have some milk. 669 00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:40,581 Oh. 670 00:41:40,664 --> 00:41:41,665 [baby whimpering] 671 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:44,168 [Meghan] Oh. 672 00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:49,298 [soft music plays] 673 00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:50,466 [Meghan] Hi, Lili. 674 00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:06,774 [Meghan] There was something that felt so complete once we had Lilibet. 675 00:42:14,281 --> 00:42:17,660 Everyone just really respected that we've been through so much 676 00:42:17,743 --> 00:42:20,371 and that we, like any parent, 677 00:42:20,454 --> 00:42:23,624 deserve to just welcome their child into the world peacefully, 678 00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:27,169 and have that time as a family to nurture and cocoon. 679 00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:32,967 Which we did, with the addition of our little toddler. 680 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:37,137 [Meghan] Flowers for Mommy? Thank you. Can I have a kiss? 681 00:42:37,221 --> 00:42:38,347 [kissing sound] 682 00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:41,892 [Harry] I think at the moment, I see a lot of my wife in Archie. 683 00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:45,145 -[Harry] I see a lot of my mum in Lili. -Mm. 684 00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:49,066 She's very Spencer-like. She's got the same blue eyes. 685 00:42:49,149 --> 00:42:50,693 Blue, blue, blue eyes. 686 00:42:50,776 --> 00:42:54,405 Sort of like a… golden-reddish hair. 687 00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:55,573 Mm-hmm. 688 00:43:00,244 --> 00:43:02,955 [Meghan] Oh boy! Are you walking? 689 00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:04,081 [Meghan laughing] Okay. 690 00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:06,709 [Tyler] We'll call, we'll chat, and we'll talk about silly things. 691 00:43:06,792 --> 00:43:09,962 And they were pretty serious on the phone. I go, "Okay, what's going on?" 692 00:43:10,045 --> 00:43:15,092 They said, "Well, we'd like for you to be Lili's godfather." I go, "Whoa." 693 00:43:16,302 --> 00:43:18,012 I had to take a minute to take that in. 694 00:43:18,095 --> 00:43:20,431 And I thought, 695 00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,725 "I'd be honored. I'd absolutely be honored." 696 00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:26,478 And I got off the phone, took it all in and then called them back. 697 00:43:26,562 --> 00:43:28,564 I go, "Uh, hold on a second." 698 00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:34,361 "Does this mean we got to go over there and do all of that in the church with them 699 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,572 and figure all that out? I don't want to do that." 700 00:43:36,655 --> 00:43:39,908 "Maybe we can do a little private ceremony here and let that be that, 701 00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:42,911 and if you have to do it there, then that's okay." 702 00:43:44,246 --> 00:43:48,375 ♪ Like a diamond in the sky ♪ 703 00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:52,379 ♪ Twinkle, twinkle little star ♪ 704 00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,174 -♪ How I wonder what you are ♪ -[Serena] They're creating their family. 705 00:43:55,257 --> 00:44:00,471 And, um… [chuckles] …friends can be family too. 706 00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:02,598 [cheering] 707 00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,808 Parvati! Parvati! 708 00:44:04,892 --> 00:44:06,018 Josie! 709 00:44:06,101 --> 00:44:09,271 [Serena] They can start something fresh and new and hope that one day 710 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:15,569 that family on both ends will be able to understand that this is truly love. 711 00:44:15,653 --> 00:44:19,573 [all] ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 712 00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:23,077 Archie, do you want to come help blow out the candles? Come help. 713 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,994 [woman] Yay! 714 00:44:24,078 --> 00:44:26,997 Oh my… Yeah! 715 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:29,124 -[soft music playing] -[Harry humming] 716 00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,542 [Harry] Eugenie's in town. 717 00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:34,588 [Harry laughing] Where are we? 718 00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:36,840 -[Eugenie] At the Superbowl! -[Harry] At the Superbowl! 719 00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:39,593 [Harry] You gotta grab him, Eugenie. You gotta grab him! 720 00:44:40,094 --> 00:44:41,970 [Harry yells] 721 00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:45,849 [Harry] Trousers are falling down. [laughing] 722 00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:48,394 Good job. 723 00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:50,604 [bird cawing] 724 00:44:51,271 --> 00:44:54,274 [Harry] Just seeing Archie running across the lawn and this big smile… 725 00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:56,360 This is the world that he knows. 726 00:44:56,443 --> 00:44:58,946 He spent his first five months in Windsor. That was it. 727 00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:01,573 This is home to him. This is home to Lili. 728 00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:03,200 "I need to walk away!" 729 00:45:04,284 --> 00:45:05,411 And this is our home. 730 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:07,871 [laughing] 731 00:45:07,955 --> 00:45:09,873 ♪ Riding down the promenade ♪ 732 00:45:09,957 --> 00:45:13,085 [Harry] I get to do things with our kids I would never be able to do in the UK. 733 00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:16,422 -[Meghan] Woo! -[dog barking] 734 00:45:17,423 --> 00:45:20,050 [Meghan laughing] 735 00:45:32,771 --> 00:45:35,441 He's deep in some sort of legal email, I can tell. 736 00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:41,905 [Jenny] Meghan's case against Associated Newspapers 737 00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:44,241 had gone on several years. 738 00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:49,037 At the beginning of 2021, the judge said, 739 00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:51,582 "We don't need to have a trial or disclosure." 740 00:45:51,665 --> 00:45:55,627 "I'm deciding the case now. I'm calling it in Meghan's favor." 741 00:45:56,211 --> 00:45:59,590 Then, uh, Associated predictably appealed. 742 00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:03,761 It was all, we thought, just an opportunity to generate more clickbait. 743 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,930 When all of this started, I had no children. 744 00:46:07,931 --> 00:46:12,478 And now I have birthed two and lost one. And it's still going on. 745 00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:18,358 [Jenny] When we were just about to go to the Court of Appeal, 746 00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:22,488 a senior member of the Duke of Cambridge's team 747 00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:26,617 came forward to give this witness statement which wasn't required. 748 00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,244 [soft piano music playing] 749 00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:35,125 [Jenny] And sadly, there's just no way he could have done that without, um, 750 00:46:35,209 --> 00:46:36,877 the authority of his bosses. 751 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,922 The Mail on Sunday was arguing all the way through this 752 00:46:40,005 --> 00:46:42,341 that actually this letter wasn't private 753 00:46:42,424 --> 00:46:46,261 because she shared a draft with her former press secretary 754 00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:48,764 and she shared some text messages with him. 755 00:46:48,847 --> 00:46:51,600 Even during the course of those text messages, Meghan said, 756 00:46:51,683 --> 00:46:55,479 "Obviously everything I have drafted is with the understanding it could leak." 757 00:46:56,104 --> 00:46:58,232 -[Harry] Let me deal with it. -How do we deal with that? 758 00:46:58,315 --> 00:47:00,108 Like, how on earth… Like… 759 00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:02,236 [woman] He works for his brother. Like… 760 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:03,946 [Meghan] But that… I know. 761 00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:08,325 -Like that… Like, I… It's your brother. -[Harry] Yep. 762 00:47:08,408 --> 00:47:11,787 I'm not gonna say anything about your brother, but it's so obvious. 763 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,622 -It's like, all-- -[Harry] It's even more… 764 00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:15,916 It's even more obvious that they'll try and cover it up. 765 00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:19,753 Again, "Jason, the former aide of Meghan and Harry," as opposed to-- 766 00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:23,423 [woman] Why are we talking about him as her former aide 767 00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:25,425 and not as the person who works for your brother? 768 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:27,469 That's why I'm now living in a different country. 769 00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,097 Because all the comms teams basically like 770 00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,392 try to outdo each other, but this is the… 771 00:47:33,475 --> 00:47:34,643 This is the contract. 772 00:47:34,726 --> 00:47:37,896 The symbiotic relationship between the two institutions working 773 00:47:38,647 --> 00:47:40,065 the best that they can. 774 00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:43,777 [instrumental music playing] 775 00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:51,201 [Meghan] Okay. Thank you. 776 00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,625 [reporter 1] Is Meghan manipulating the media? 777 00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:00,752 [reporter 2] Thank you for your text messages as well. 778 00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:03,255 ER says, "Of course Meghan's manipulating the media." 779 00:48:03,338 --> 00:48:05,674 "Good for her, I say. They manipulate us enough." 780 00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:08,051 Chris said she likes to control the narrative… 781 00:48:10,637 --> 00:48:11,722 [Meghan] Thank you. 782 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,435 [man] I just wanted to ask you, you know, about the appeal, 783 00:48:16,518 --> 00:48:18,478 and how you feel about it, 784 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:22,357 and also just how you feel about these issues of privacy. 785 00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:25,235 It's an arduous process. But it's just me standing up for what's right. 786 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:28,071 Which I think is important across the board, 787 00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:31,116 be it in this case or in the other things we've been talking about today. 788 00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,034 At a certain point, 789 00:48:32,117 --> 00:48:35,329 no matter how difficult it is, if you know the difference between right and wrong, 790 00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:38,165 you must stand up for what's right, and that's what I'm doing. 791 00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:40,584 [exhales sharply] 792 00:48:42,419 --> 00:48:44,004 [Harry] It's just before 2 a.m. 793 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:48,884 And we're ringing the team in the UK 794 00:48:49,593 --> 00:48:51,511 to get the results of the appeal. 795 00:48:54,681 --> 00:48:57,476 So, just quickly, while we're waiting for Jenny to call… 796 00:48:58,310 --> 00:48:59,811 -[Meghan] Hm? -[Harry] How do you feel? 797 00:48:59,895 --> 00:49:02,773 I just… I basically just feel like a little bit nauseous. 798 00:49:02,856 --> 00:49:05,150 I just don't know. Like… 799 00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:09,863 I know they're confident, but I just want it all to be over. 800 00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:19,039 [Jenny] Hey. Congratulations. 801 00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:22,209 [Harry and Meghan laughing] 802 00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:23,251 [Meghan sighs] 803 00:49:23,961 --> 00:49:26,922 -[Meghan] Oh. -[Harry sighs] 804 00:49:27,005 --> 00:49:29,299 [Meghan] Oh, Jenny. Thank you for-- 805 00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:31,385 -[Jenny] I know. -Thank you for not milking that. 806 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:33,053 Thank you for not playing… 807 00:49:33,136 --> 00:49:35,138 [Jenny and Meghan laughing] 808 00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:36,556 [Mandana] How are you feeling? 809 00:49:37,057 --> 00:49:40,352 I don't know. Maybe now I'm gonna eat some of the ice cream you sent. 810 00:49:40,435 --> 00:49:42,479 [Isabelle] Fuck, yeah! 811 00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:44,523 [Isabelle squeals] 812 00:49:44,606 --> 00:49:49,778 On every level, this is so satisfying and sensational! 813 00:49:49,861 --> 00:49:51,905 You did this. And you, H. 814 00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,490 My ongoing joke of late 815 00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:57,244 has been like H is just like Mr. Justice Man. Mr. Justice Man. 816 00:49:57,327 --> 00:50:01,748 And the California version of this needs to be Mr. Just-Is, man! 817 00:50:01,832 --> 00:50:03,000 [laughing] 818 00:50:03,083 --> 00:50:06,044 [male reporter] Meghan Markle got a court-mandated front page mea culpa 819 00:50:06,128 --> 00:50:08,213 from a UK tabloid over the weekend. 820 00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:12,217 The statement from Mail on Sunday stopped short of an apology, 821 00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,220 but it did acknowledge Markle's legal victory. 822 00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:17,764 [soft music playing] 823 00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:22,894 The witness statement had no legal significance on the case whatsoever, 824 00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:27,274 other than to actually vindicate a lot of what Meghan had been saying 825 00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:30,485 about how the letter was never intended to be published. 826 00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:35,282 But it was filed because the impact on Meghan's reputation 827 00:50:35,365 --> 00:50:37,075 was potentially damaging. 828 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:42,622 The reporting skewered things to make it look, falsely, as if Meghan had lied, 829 00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:43,874 which she absolutely hadn't. 830 00:50:43,957 --> 00:50:46,293 As has been proven time and time again, 831 00:50:46,376 --> 00:50:49,838 there's an incentive for the British media to get you to trial. 832 00:50:50,839 --> 00:50:54,885 Because they can make so much money, and it creates such a circus around it, 833 00:50:54,968 --> 00:50:56,720 which is exactly what they did here. 834 00:50:56,803 --> 00:50:59,556 And if we don't have the resource, or the capability, or the capacity 835 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,893 to be able to stand up to these people, then no one else does. 836 00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:06,772 -[Harry] Hey-o. -[Meghan] Hi! 837 00:51:07,272 --> 00:51:09,649 -Nice to meet you. -[woman] Nice to meet you too. 838 00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:12,152 -[woman] Everyone is off to the right. -Thank you. 839 00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:14,863 -[Meghan] Hi! -[Harry] Hi guys! 840 00:51:14,946 --> 00:51:16,239 [woman] Okay, so each episode… 841 00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:18,992 [Harry] Everyone's so dressed up. Thank God I didn't wear jeans. 842 00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:23,830 [Meghan] We have a good friend, and every year at New Year's, 843 00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:26,875 she goes around the table and asks who's sitting there at dinner, 844 00:51:26,958 --> 00:51:29,544 "What is your word for this year?" 845 00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:33,298 And a few years ago, when I heard that, I was like, 846 00:51:33,381 --> 00:51:35,717 "Oh, what is my word? Not a resolution. What is your word?" 847 00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:36,718 And I thought… 848 00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:40,764 [sighs] "My word is peace. Peace. It's got to be peace. All I want is peace." 849 00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,850 And I went, "Nope. I can't have peace without truth." 850 00:51:44,351 --> 00:51:46,019 My word for that year was truth. 851 00:51:46,103 --> 00:51:48,396 -Happy Holidays! -Happy holidays, happy holidays. 852 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,900 -[Meghan] Thank you, guys! -[Harry] Cheers, guys. Cheers, cheers. 853 00:51:51,983 --> 00:51:52,859 Rick, you're up. 854 00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:56,279 [Meghan] And then by the next year, oh, here we are again. 855 00:51:56,363 --> 00:51:59,491 Truth. We got some truth out. Finally, people are gonna know some truths. 856 00:52:00,033 --> 00:52:03,954 But it hasn't given us peace. It's like my word has to be peace. 857 00:52:04,871 --> 00:52:07,332 It was around that time that I was like, "I just want peace." 858 00:52:07,415 --> 00:52:10,669 And part of that, for me, is reclaiming. 859 00:52:11,294 --> 00:52:14,548 You know, when you've lost a huge piece of yourself, 860 00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:19,636 getting that back includes getting back those relationships 861 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,306 and those friendships and things that anchor you to who you are. 862 00:52:26,059 --> 00:52:27,894 [sentimental music playing] 863 00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:30,021 Ashleigh was a huge part of that for me. 864 00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:37,154 And then, you know, she came back into my life then at the end of last year. 865 00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:38,655 [Meghan] Hello! 866 00:52:38,738 --> 00:52:42,617 [Ashleigh] Hello. Hi, baby girl. Hi. 867 00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,246 -[Meghan] I texted her. -[Ashleigh] Thank you. What you doing? 868 00:52:46,329 --> 00:52:50,625 [Meghan] And she was immediately just happy to be reconnected. 869 00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,627 [Ashleigh] I missed you. You're so big. 870 00:52:53,879 --> 00:52:56,506 [Meghan] Good job! Are you making zucchini muffins? 871 00:52:56,590 --> 00:52:58,800 [Ashleigh] I was there at Christmas. 872 00:52:58,884 --> 00:53:01,595 -[Archie] What's-- -All the sides. Get everything mixed in. 873 00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:06,474 I missed so much of Archie's life, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it. 874 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:09,144 I think we immediately kind of 875 00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:11,521 had this bond. 876 00:53:13,398 --> 00:53:16,693 So just kind of to experience them growing up, 877 00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:22,324 feeling like I'm in their life, that has been really good. 878 00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:24,326 -[Meghan] Here's some more. -[Ashleigh] Tomatoes. 879 00:53:24,409 --> 00:53:26,203 -[Meghan] Some more. -[Ashleigh] Your tomatoes! 880 00:53:26,286 --> 00:53:28,872 [Meghan] Look at this one! Ah, it's so big! 881 00:53:28,955 --> 00:53:31,750 [Meghan] But part of what's beautiful here is the freedom 882 00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:34,544 to have family moments out in the world. 883 00:53:34,628 --> 00:53:38,673 [Meghan] Oh, we're gonna see the horses. Yay! 884 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,969 [Meghan] And I want our kids to be able to do that and to be able to travel. 885 00:53:43,678 --> 00:53:48,934 And to fall in love, you know. I just want them to be happy. 886 00:53:50,101 --> 00:53:54,231 -[lively music playing] -[Archie laughing] 887 00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,570 The world that they see is how I would love the world to be. 888 00:54:01,863 --> 00:54:04,991 They don't… They don't need to worry about the things that we worry about. 889 00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:08,036 [both laughing] 890 00:54:08,745 --> 00:54:10,497 -[Archie] Ball? -[Meghan] Ball? 891 00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:11,665 [Meghan laughing] 892 00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:14,251 -[Harry] Again? -[Archie] Again. 893 00:54:14,334 --> 00:54:16,169 -[Harry laughs] -[Archie grunts] 894 00:54:19,047 --> 00:54:20,590 [Archie laughing] 895 00:54:25,971 --> 00:54:27,722 ♪ Follow ♪ 896 00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:31,309 ♪ Follow the sun ♪ 897 00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:35,105 ♪ And which way the wind blows ♪ 898 00:54:36,648 --> 00:54:38,441 ♪ When this day is done ♪ 899 00:54:41,695 --> 00:54:44,614 ♪ Breathe… ♪ 900 00:54:44,698 --> 00:54:48,576 [interviewer] Are there things that you miss about life in the institution? 901 00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:50,537 [Harry] Yeah, I mean, I miss the… 902 00:54:51,037 --> 00:54:54,916 The weird family gatherings when we're all sort of brought together under one roof 903 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,919 for, you know, certain times of the year. 904 00:54:58,003 --> 00:55:00,588 Um, that I miss. 905 00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:04,342 Um, you know, being part of the institution meant that I was in the UK. 906 00:55:04,426 --> 00:55:06,261 So I miss the UK. I miss my friends. 907 00:55:06,761 --> 00:55:08,013 Um, and I've lost… 908 00:55:08,096 --> 00:55:10,098 I've lost a few friends in this process as well. 909 00:55:10,181 --> 00:55:12,434 I mean, I came here because I was changed. 910 00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:15,937 I changed to the point that I'd outgrown my environment. 911 00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:19,607 Therefore, this was the most obvious place to come. 912 00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:22,319 You know, it's one of the places where I think my mum 913 00:55:22,402 --> 00:55:24,404 was probably gonna end up living potentially. 914 00:55:25,363 --> 00:55:26,197 You know. 915 00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:29,909 ♪ So follow ♪ 916 00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:34,164 Follow the sun ♪ 917 00:55:34,748 --> 00:55:37,751 ♪ The direction of the birds ♪ 918 00:55:38,293 --> 00:55:41,212 ♪ The direction of love ♪ 919 00:55:43,798 --> 00:55:50,055 ♪ Breathe, breathe in the air ♪ 920 00:55:50,597 --> 00:55:53,850 ♪ Cherish this moment ♪ 921 00:55:54,517 --> 00:55:56,603 ♪ Cherish this breath… ♪ 922 00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:02,984 [Ignacio] Harry was always looking for a simpler life. 923 00:56:06,404 --> 00:56:09,324 More, uh, human, you know. 924 00:56:09,407 --> 00:56:12,369 A husband and a wife, with two kids and two dogs. 925 00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:17,916 Thinking about, you know, what's for dinner and, you know, 926 00:56:17,999 --> 00:56:20,919 what's our schedule look like tomorrow? 927 00:56:21,002 --> 00:56:24,339 Which is not something that, uh, was so normal for him. 928 00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:26,466 ♪ This crazy society… ♪ 929 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:27,759 Home sweet home. 930 00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:33,515 ♪ The strand Take a straw to the nearest waters and… ♪ 931 00:56:33,598 --> 00:56:36,643 There's times when I've been angry, but I can't be that angry 932 00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:41,189 because I genuinely feel that I, and we, are exactly where we're supposed to be. 933 00:56:41,981 --> 00:56:45,693 ♪ Long before you came So which way is the wind blowing…♪ 934 00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:47,487 [Harry] We've made it to the other side. 935 00:56:47,987 --> 00:56:49,989 ♪ When this day is done... ♪ 936 00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:53,576 [Meghan] It's amazing how things come full circle that you never think about. 937 00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:57,372 I gave a speech the night of our wedding, 938 00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,999 which is atypical for a bride in the UK, I think? 939 00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:00,959 Very. 940 00:57:01,042 --> 00:57:03,920 I have it on my phone. I can read it to you. Should I read it? 941 00:57:04,003 --> 00:57:04,921 From your phone? 942 00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:09,092 -Am I gonna be able to read that? -[Harry] Try. 943 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,139 [Meghan] "On to the crux of why I wanted to speak tonight." 944 00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,808 "First of all, it's been a while." 945 00:57:17,684 --> 00:57:19,185 That got a big laugh. 946 00:57:19,894 --> 00:57:22,063 "But mostly I wanted to share a story." 947 00:57:22,147 --> 00:57:25,775 "A story that I wrote about the man that I love and the way that we met." 948 00:57:26,401 --> 00:57:29,112 "Let's call this a modern fairy tale. 949 00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:33,867 "Once upon a time, there was a girl from LA." 950 00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:35,869 "Some people called her an actress." 951 00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:38,913 [soft music playing] 952 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:40,373 "And there was a guy from London." 953 00:57:41,916 --> 00:57:43,710 "Some people called him a prince." 954 00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:50,425 "All of those people didn't fully get it, 955 00:57:51,259 --> 00:57:55,513 because this is the love story of a boy and a girl who were meant to be together." 956 00:57:59,601 --> 00:58:03,897 "They meet on July 3rd, 2016 in London. And they giggle endlessly." 957 00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,151 "They have their second date 958 00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,487 and he brings her cupcakes because it's 4th July." 959 00:58:11,237 --> 00:58:14,657 "'A bittersweet celebration', he says. Ironic really." 960 00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:17,285 "Her country's independence from his country." 961 00:58:17,368 --> 00:58:20,580 "Yet in this moment, they know they don't want to be independent of each other." 962 00:58:27,378 --> 00:58:29,714 "And after a month of long-distance courtship, 963 00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:32,509 they settle into the quiet of Botswana." 964 00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:40,016 "And amidst whatever momentary worries that creep in, 965 00:58:40,099 --> 00:58:43,645 they look at each other and think, 'Whatever, world, we're in.'" 966 00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:53,488 "They would love, and garden, and travel, and laugh, 967 00:58:53,571 --> 00:58:56,199 and rack up more air miles than any couple could have." 968 00:58:57,992 --> 00:59:01,704 "And when the tides were rough, they squeezed each other tighter." 969 00:59:01,788 --> 00:59:05,291 "'Nothing can break us,' they'd say. 'For this love, she was a fighter.'" 970 00:59:07,502 --> 00:59:10,463 "I appreciate, respect and honor you, my treasure, 971 00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:12,298 for the family we will create, 972 00:59:13,633 --> 00:59:15,760 and our love story that will last forever." 973 00:59:17,595 --> 00:59:20,431 [Harry] She's happy to go up the hill but she hates going down the hill. 974 00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:22,684 [chuckles] We don't have that much farther to go. 975 00:59:22,767 --> 00:59:23,685 What? 976 00:59:23,768 --> 00:59:25,186 [Meghan laughing] 977 00:59:26,354 --> 00:59:30,024 "So I ask you to raise a glass to the astounding assurance 978 00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:32,527 that now life begins, 979 00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:36,364 and the everlasting knowing that, above all, love wins." 980 00:59:37,407 --> 00:59:40,201 ["How Glad I Am" by Nancy Wilson playing] 981 00:59:45,832 --> 00:59:48,710 ♪ My love has no beginning My love has no end ♪ 982 00:59:49,252 --> 00:59:52,255 ♪ No front, no back And my love won't bend ♪ 983 00:59:52,338 --> 00:59:54,257 ♪ I'm in the middle ♪ 984 00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:57,802 ♪ Lost in a spin ♪ 985 00:59:58,886 --> 01:00:05,685 ♪ Loving you ♪ 986 01:00:09,022 --> 01:00:12,567 ♪ And you don't know, you don't know You don't know, you don't know ♪ 987 01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:15,153 ♪ How glad I am ♪ 988 01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:20,491 ♪ My love has no bottom My love has no top ♪ 989 01:00:21,242 --> 01:00:24,120 ♪ My love won't rise And my love won't drop ♪ 990 01:00:24,203 --> 01:00:25,872 ♪ I'm in the middle ♪ 991 01:00:27,081 --> 01:00:28,791 ♪ And I can't stop ♪ 992 01:00:30,335 --> 01:00:37,300 ♪ Loving you ♪ 993 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,389 ♪ And you don't know, you don't know You don't know, you don't know ♪ 994 01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:46,392 ♪ How glad I am ♪ 995 01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:51,773 ♪ I wish I were a poet ♪ 996 01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:55,068 ♪ So I could express ♪ 997 01:00:55,652 --> 01:01:01,783 ♪ What I'd, what I'd like to say ♪ 998 01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:06,037 ♪ I wish I were an artist ♪ 999 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,165 ♪ So I could paint a picture ♪ 1000 01:01:09,248 --> 01:01:11,125 ♪ Of how I feel ♪ 1001 01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:16,506 Of how I feel today ♪ 1002 01:01:17,924 --> 01:01:20,885 ♪ My love has no walls on either side ♪ 1003 01:01:20,968 --> 01:01:23,304 ♪ That makes my love wider than wide ♪ 1004 01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:28,309 ♪ I'm in the middle and I can't hide ♪ 1005 01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:36,651 ♪ Loving you ♪ 1006 01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:43,366 ♪ And you don't know, you don't know You don't know, you don't know ♪ 1007 01:01:43,449 --> 01:01:45,368 ♪ How glad I am ♪ 1008 01:01:51,457 --> 01:01:54,377 ♪ And you don't know, you don't know You don't know, you don't know ♪ 1009 01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:58,548 ♪ How glad I am ♪ 87874

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