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Mm-hmm.

-(dog barks) -Lie down.

Sit down. Lie down.

-Lie down. -(others laugh off screen)

My name is Pauli Murray,

and my field of concentration has been human rights.

My whole personal history has been a struggle

to meet standards of excellence

in a society which has been dominated by the ideas

that Blacks were inherently inferior to whites

and women were inherently inferior to men.

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RUTH BADER GINSBURG: Pauli Murray was a person

way ahead of the times,

saying and doing things that others were not,

until much later.

PATRICIA BELL-SCOTT: Pauli had the nerve

to confront discrimination

at a time when there was great risk in doing so.

PAULI: Incident after incident piling up

meant that sooner or later, I would either go berserk

or I would find a way to protest.

SONIA PRESSMAN FUENTES: Pauli was the writer,

the lawyer, the priest,

the poet.

-(typewriter keys clacking) -(Pauli reading):

(crowd chanting)

BRITTNEY COOPER: Pauli has been so critical

to so many of the rights and freedoms that we all enjoy.

DOLORES CHANDLER: Pauli Murray was not just

an amazing lawyer or a badass feminist,

but also a queer, nonbinary person.

COOPER: And most of the time, my students are like,

"Why don't we know about Pauli Murray?"

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COOPER: How can one person be so pivotal

and yet their name is just one that we never learn?

(typewriter keys clack)

(pen scratching on paper)

(respirator whooshes rhythmically)

KAREN ROUSE ROSS: My great-aunt Pauli

called me and said...

she wasn't gonna make it through the night.

She said, "You've got things here

that you'll need to do for me."

And she died a couple hours later.

I found out I was the executrix of her estate,

so I had to gather her belongings.

File cabinets lined the rooms,

and then the bookcases sat on top.

Boxes, folders, letters to the government.

She saved everything.

Pauli's will was very clear

she wanted her papers to be at Schlesinger Library,

one of the places where women's historical papers

are housed.

Aunt Pauli did not share a lot about her life with me.

I knew she was a priest. I knew she had been a lawyer.

But she never, ever mentioned any of her accomplishments.

I went and read what I hadn't read,

and then I realized, "Oh, my God."

"Petersburg, bus incident, March 1940."

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PAULI: I did not start out to-- deliberately contest

the Virginia segregation statutes.

As so often happened in those early days,

an incident would arise

where there was just nothing you could do but fight back.

My friend and I were traveling from New York

down to Durham to visit my two aunts for Easter.

My friend's name was Adelene McBean.

Mac, we used to call her.

MARGHRETTA McBEAN: For my mother, it was

her first introduction to what was a pretty common situation

in many parts of the South.

When you crossed the Mason-Dixon Line,

you were expected to move to the back.

PAULI: The bus was the quintessence

of the segregation evil, the intimacy of the bus interior

permitted the public humiliation of Black people

to be carried out in the presence of

the privileged white spectators who witnessed our shame

in silence or indifference.

McBEAN: When they got to Virginia,

the Black people got up and moved to the back,

and then more white people came on.

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PAULI: The bus driver insisted

that we move, and the next seat had this broken seat,

and we refused to sit on that.

McBEAN: The bus driver said he wasn't gonna drive anymore

until she moved back.

PAULI: And the police came in and arrested us.

Mac and I were hungry and cold but were afraid to go to sleep

because the mattresses were alive with bedbugs.

When I protested, the surly night jailor shouted,

"If you don't shut up, I'll shut your ass in the dungeon.

"Time them rats get through with you,

you'll wish you'd kept your damn mouth shut."

The reality set in.

The reality set in, and, uh,

I think it was very scary.

BELL-SCOTT: Pauli reached out

to the NAACP, hoping that

they could get a ruling that declared, um,

segregated seating unconstitutional.

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PAULI: Mac and I did a report,

a summary, of the case, the facts.

After we were released on bond,

we were invited to meet with NAACP lawyers

Thurgood Marshall, Judge William H. Hastie

and Dr. Leon A. Ransom.

It was my first exposure

to a team of able civil rights lawyers in action,

and I sat enthralled for several hours.

What they were fighting for was the right of Black people

to easily assimilate into the whole of American life.

But the judge knows that this is becoming a big deal,

and so, ultimately, they get outmaneuvered.

-(gallery chattering) -(gavel banging)

The judge drops the segregation statute here that's at play

and just says, "Y'all were disturbing the peace."

So they are not able to reframe legal precedent.

They serve a small sentence, uh, and they're let go.

PAULI: At the time, I felt only

the bitter disappointment of a personal defeat.

But I began to sense

that we were a small part of a teamwork effort

which envisioned the ultimate overthrow

of all segregation law.

The thought was stupefying.

(low conversations)

COOPER: So, today,

we have this really cool opportunity

to learn about Dr. Anna Pauline Murray.

Pauli Murray is just so spectacular that I literally

cannot cover all her firsts and all her dopeness.

Think about if you're a Black person in the 20th century

and you're trying to make the argument

that your humanity should be respected.

And you live in a world where people already don't like you

because you're Black.

I want to give you a little sense of-of

what informed Murray's life.

(recorder clicks)

PAULI (over recorder): This is chapter one,

page one... (clears throat)

of an autobiography in manuscript.

(typewriter keys clacking)

In a study published in 1910, the year of my birth,

Dr. Howard W. Odum,

a sociologist then working at Columbia University,

asserted that "the races have different abilities

and potentialities." Close quote.

And that those who wish to help the Negro should, quote,

"not expect too much of him.

"He has little conception of the meaning of virtue,

"truth, honor, manhood, integrity.

"The best education for the Negro child

"would lead him toward the unquestioning acceptance

"of the fact that he is a different race

from the white, and properly so." Close quote.

-(children shouting playfully) -I can remember this today,

and I-I can see that old school building.

It was a rickety old wooden building.

No swings.

You know, nothing to play with when you went out.

And of course, the white kids' school...

sitting in a lawn,

surrounded by a fence,

it was the contrast between the treatment we got

and the treatment the white kids got.

And you sense those things. You feel them.

(children chattering)

I come from a very proud people.

They were stubborn. They swam against the stream.

This is the house.

This is Pauli Murray's homeplace.

When she came to this house, she was three years old,

and she came as a result of a tragedy.

Her mother died of a cerebral hemorrhage,

and eventually her father was committed

to a mental hospital.

Even though she was born in Baltimore,

this was really her home.

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PAULI: When I came to Durham,

the household included Aunt Pauline and Aunt Sallie

and my Fitzgerald grandparents.

ROSS: The Fitzgeralds are very well known in Durham

and pretty prestigious with the Black community.

The family going back was mixed with Cherokee, Irish,

African American.

It was a family where there were some members

who looked so white that they passed,

and Pauli was somewhere in between.

There was prejudice based on complexion

from the white community

and from the Black community.

And so they were an entity all to themselves.

Pauli was the joy of the house.

Aunt Pauline didn't have any children, so she doted on her.

PAULI: Aunt Pauline taught in the local public schools,

and when I was around four,

she decided to bring me with her every day.

I was permitted to sit with the older children

and to look on while they recited.

Toward the end of the school year,

Aunt Pauline was surprised when she heard me say,

"I can read, Aunt Pauline."

I seized the book of the child next to me

and began to read out loud.

All the time I had been in her class,

I was learning whatever she taught the others.

From then on, the classroom was my second home.

ROSS: She was allowed to ask anything she wanted to ask.

She was allowed to have an opinion.

But Pauli did not want to wear dresses...

...and Aunt Pauline used to make her go to church every Sunday,

so they made a deal.

She said, "You can wear pants all week long,

"but when it comes time to go into church,

you got to put on a dress."

PAULI: I had a certain kind of protected life.

The point at which life became...

unbearable

was in the contact with the white world.

People addressing, uh, adult Negroes

as auntie and uncle, boy.

You get maybe 50, 60 people a year being lynched.

I don't remember lynchings

being prominently portrayed in the newspapers,

but we would hear about them by word of mouth.

(whispering): It was, "Somebody got lynched over in...

in so-and-so county last night."

The awareness of the Ku Klux Klan

was always in the background.

This awareness to a child of my generation,

uh, grows with you just like...

...almost a part of your body and your being.

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MALE STUDENT: "We shall endure

"To steal your senses

"In that lonely twilight

Of your winter's grief."

What is Pauli's awareness of her place in history?

Pauli's in this scope to sort of fix these issues

that have been created from the institution of slavery.

I just think that's so powerful.

And Pauli's claiming that and being like,

"Well, this is my, like, space and this is my time

to, like, do this work."

So she takes up the typewriter

and writes to express herself fully.

It's left there permanently so that maybe future generations

like us can better understand it.

Well, I suppose back of all writing

is a desire to communicate.

In other words, you want to share with other people

some of the insights or some of your feelings

or some of your emotions.

My story is much more difficult to write

then writing about somebody else.

-Mm-hmm. -Yeah.

PAULI: Chapter six, manuscript page 120.

After my school,

I did not want to attend any more segregated schools.

This I was determined not to do.

So Aunt Pauline took me to New York.

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I was astounded by almost everything I saw:

the skyscrapers, Coney Island,

the Statue of Liberty, the Broadway Theater District.

The Automat, where one could put nickels in a slot

and get out dishes of hot food.

Most of all, I was impressed

because one could sit anywhere one wanted

in the subway trains, buses and streetcars.

At Hunter College, I was one of four Negroes

in a group of 247 women.

I took all of the courses that dealt with literature:

creative writing, short stories.

Now, remember, I'm a little Southern child

with atrocious grammar and constantly feeling the gap

between my educational level

and that of these bright kids at Hunter College.

And so, way back in the back of my mind was always,

"Have I got it?"

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I graduated from Hunter College in the class of 1933.

MAN: The Great Depression.

Long lines of waiting men,

waiting for a free bowl of soup,

waiting for jobs.

PAULI: It was the worst possible time to begin one's career.

In the mornings, I went through the ritual

of a futile search of help wanted ads.

♪ ♪

Despite those hardships,

being without a job permitted a freedom of movement

to travel about in ways

that were not otherwise socially acceptable.

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I was about to join an estimated 300,000 homeless,

unwanted boys, and a scattering of girls,

who rode freights or hitchhiked

from town to town in search of work.

I wore my hitchhiking garb--

scout pants and a leather jacket--

and carried a small knapsack with minimum camping equipment.

I also had a boyish bob and had a slight figure,

flat in the obvious places, which at first sight

made me appear to be a small teenage boy.

COOPER: Pauli revels in being masculine presenting.

There are these great pictures of her

in these different kind of very male-centered poses,

and she gives herself different names.

And so she calls herself Pete.

She calls herself The Dude.

Now, when she writes about this,

she essentially says that she does it

to protect herself, because she can't be

a single Black woman riding the rails, uh, illegally

without fear of being harassed or sexually assaulted.

I pledge myself to a New Deal

for the American people.

(chattering)

PAULI: I became one of the hundreds of jobless women

who participate in Camp Tera,

one of the 28 women's camps established by the New Deal.

♪ ♪

I immediately hit it off with Peg Holmes,

who was a hiking counselor

and had an intellectual curiosity

which struck sparks from my own.

ROSALIND ROSENBERG: Peggy Holmes was the daughter

of a conservative banker,

radicalized by the Great Depression.

PAULI: Peg seemed utterly without racial prejudice.

She read some of my poetry and then said to me,

"How can you write with such compassion?

I would be bitter if I were a Negro."

That spring, Peg and I took a five weeks' hitchhiking trip

to Nebraska and back.

A new person who thinks as you do

and will lunch on an empty beach at dusk.

These are the small, everyday joys of life.

(low chattering)

Peg and I became interested in industrial and labor problems,

and I was introduced to my first picket line.

CROWD: ♪ Solidarity forever ♪

♪ Our union makes us strong. ♪

PAULI: One encountered in the labor movement

an almost religious fervor.

We threw ourselves into

the Automobile Workers' general strike in early 1937.

I was catapulted into a radical stance...

...and I am now beginning to relate this,

this whole concept of freedom and dignity,

to being a Negro in America.

I don't think I'll try to record the next chapter

until another sitting.

You-you can imagine this is an emotional, uh, uh, drain.

But in any event, I hope the reader is intrigued.

ROSENBERG: Pauli Murray had a sense

of being a historical figure.

The Schlesinger Library

has a 135 boxes of Pauli Murray's papers.

Some of it had not been included

in any of Murray's published work.

I came across a folder that was marked "sexuality."

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Murray told doctors that she appeared to be a woman

but was really a man.

Pauli hoped that a relationship with Peggy

would be a normal relationship,

by which Pauli meant that Pauli would be the man

and Peggy would be the wife.

And Peggy could not bring herself

to see Pauli as a man.

And eventually their relationship ended.

The time that Peggy Holmes disappeared from Murray's life

led to an emotional meltdown that ended

with Pauli being hospitalized at Bellevue Hospital.

Pauli's notes while, uh, under observation

in psychiatric hospitals were very detailed.

COOPER: Pauli is depressed, asking doctors,

"Why am I dealing with these attractions?"

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RAQUEL WILLIS: These experiences have always existed.

Pauli's historical records allow us to consider

the humanity of someone who was Black

and gender nonconforming in the time that Pauli was living.

DOLORES CHANDLER: Sitting in front of Murray's

medical records and notes,

as a trans, gender nonconforming, queer person

of mixed race myself,

I thought, mm...

"This is a feeling I know well."

We've been taught to believe that people like us don't exist.

So when I came to know and learn about Pauli Murray,

I was so amazed and wanted to, like,

hold it so tightly, and also I was angry.

I was so angry

that I felt, in some ways,

that I had been robbed of a part of my history.

I identify

with the turmoil of someone

who was trying to live life as a complete being

with an integrated body, mind and spirit.

If Pauli Murray were sitting here today

and I said, "You know, Pauli, what...

what pronouns do you use?"

I don't know what Pauli Murray would... would say.

WILLIS: Being Black and queer myself,

I refer to Pauli as "they" or simply "Pauli"

to acknowledge their expansive gender experience.

CHANDLER: Scholars who have written about Pauli

largely still use feminine pronouns,

use she/her pronouns.

Friends and family refer to Pauli with feminine pronouns,

but I think that we likely will see more of people

referring to Pauli Murray with gender-neutral pronouns

as opposed to feminine pronouns.

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ROSENBERG: Murray never wrote about

her gender struggles in her published work,

and she rarely talked about it even with friends.

She found herself in this place

that was, uh, completely foreign to everyone she...

she cared about, except Aunt Pauline.

Aunt Pauline called Pauli my "boygirl"

and always was supportive of Pauli.

Aunt Pauline allowed Aunt Pauli

to be exactly who she needed to be.

We don't often get that kind of unconditional love.

But when she tried to find that in other places,

it was really hard.

She was always on overdrive.

She would drink coffee all night long.

(typewriter keys clacking)

She could be impatient.

Most of her life was, "You will see me.

You will hear me."

♪ ♪

PAULI: At that point, the University of North Carolina

was developing courses in race relations.

So I thought, well, maybe they are now ready

to accept a Negro.

They send me an application blank

and they have written in "Race" and "Religion."

I think I answered it but may have said,

"But what difference does it make?"

I got back a letter from the president

of the University of North Carolina saying...

♪ ♪

MAN: The President of the United States,

on his way home to the nation's capital,

pauses at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill

to receive the honorary degree of doctor of laws

from the university.

ROOSEVELT: I am happy and proud to become an alumnus

of the University of North Carolina,

typifying as it does American liberal thought

through American action.

BELL-SCOTT: Pauli heard this speech on the radio

and decided to write Franklin Roosevelt a letter.

It was a typical hot protest letter from Pauli Murray.

(typewriter keys clacking)

COOPER: He had been praising UNC at the same time

as they're not allowing Pauli to come to school there.

And so you have a Black person writing brashly

to the president in the 1930s,

demanding that he not be a hypocrite.

PAULI: I was increasingly dismayed

over his silence on civil rights

and his refusal even to speak out publicly

for a federal anti-lynching bill.

(typewriter keys clacking)

BELL-SCOTT: Pauli decided to send a copy

to Eleanor Roosevelt.

Mrs. Roosevelt answers fairly quickly,

and the letter comes with her personal signature.

"I've read the copy of the letter you sent me,

"and I understand perfectly,

"but great changes come slowly.

The South is changing, but don't push too fast."

COOPER: This confrontational posture that Pauli had

with UNC was indicative of this thing

that she would come to call "confrontation by typewriter."

Pauli wrote letters

which were published, uh, in the Black press,

so there was a lot of attention there.

PAULI: And it suddenly burst out over the radio,

"An unidentified Negress

makes application to the University of North Carolina."

It became sort of national news.

This was met with consternation by my family,

primarily because they were afraid they would be lynched.

The University of North Carolina,

that was one defeat.

And the arrest on the bus, plus a whole lifetime

of seeing the indignities handed out not only to me

but to poor, rural Negroes--

all of this culminated in my recognition

that if I were going to fight this battle of segregation,

I needed a weapon, I needed a skill.

And it was then I decided to go to law school.

(chuckles)

COOPER: Pauli arrives at Howard in the fall of 1941,

and many of the civil rights cases of that day

are being theorized in the halls of Howard.

You know, Thurgood Marshall and, uh,

you know, William Hastie and Leon Ransom,

they're just rolling through the halls there.

PAULI: For my first two years,

I was the only woman in the law school.

They didn't even let me talk in class.

And I would raise my hand.

Nobody would pay any attention to me.

My professor said,

now, he don't know why women come to law school, anyway.

And I was so stunned.

They're talking about what they're calling Jim Crow,

which we all know is a system of racial segregation,

and she says, what I'm experiencing is Jane Crow.

To be a Black woman is not just to have to deal

with the question of racial segregation but also

to have to deal with the question of sex discrimination.

PAULI: I had not grown up in a family

where limitations were placed upon women.

And at the end of the year,

they ranked the students and publicized their marks.

Murray, Murray, Murray, Murray, Murray, top of the list.

Second year, they let me talk.

COOPER: Murray becomes the advisor

to the student chapter of the NAACP.

♪ ♪

INEZ SMITH REID: Any time you went to Downtown Washington,

there were places that you could not go.

I remember Garfinckel's Department Store,

you couldn't go into.

Um, restaurants downtown, you couldn't go into.

The... The National Theatre, you couldn't go into.

PAULI: I began to experiment more

with nonviolent direct action.

We started at Fourteenth and U,

a restaurant called Little Palace Cafeteria.

Now, this was right in the middle

of the Negro neighborhood, but it served only white.

And we walked in there one Saturday afternoon,

they refused to serve us.

We took our empty trays and sat at the tables,

opened our books and began our lesson.

We filled up that little place.

And it worked.

COOPER: What's amazing is that they succeed.

They actually succeed in desegregating U Street.

PAULI: The time had come to make a frontal assault

upon the constitutionality of segregation.

(angry shouting)

(gavel banging)

I chose for my senior paper,

"Should Plessy v. Ferguson Be Overruled?"

Plessy v. Ferguson is a Supreme Court case in 1896

that said that it was okay to separate Black people

in public accommodations, like transportation or school,

as long as the accommodations were separate but equal.

Essentially Thurgood Marshall

and the NAACP had said,

"Okay, if Plessy says separate but equal,

"our problem with the law is that Black institutions

"aren't being treated equally,

"they're not being given the same amount of money,

and so we'll be separate, but we want equal resources."

Pauli Murray says

the whole logic of that is wrong.

Discrimination is inherently immoral

and what it does is it reduces Black people's sense

of their own dignity and their own character.

(Pauli reading):

COOPER: The entire thing should be overturned.

Y'all need a bigger, bolder, broader strategy.

PAULI: My classmates laughed at me.

Spottswood Robinson, the young faculty member

who inspired awe among students,

not only pooh-poohed my idea

but good-naturedly accepted my wager of ten dollars

when I said, "Plessy would be overturned within 25 years."

Exactly ten years later, in 1954, this is precisely

the strategy that Marshall and his legal team pursue

in the Brown v. Board of Education decision.

MAN: The Supreme Court has rendered a momentous

and historic decision.

There shall be equality

in educational facilities for all people.

PAULI: I returned to Howard to visit,

and Spotts Robinson said very casually,

"You know, Pauli,

you remember that civil rights paper you wrote?"

I said, "Sure."

And he said, "You know, in 1953,

"I took out this paper, and it was very helpful to us

in our preparation."

He tells me that, in anonymous form,

my little argument went to the Supreme Court.

Look around the room.

Turn your head and look around the room.

Y'all see all of the different folks that are in this room?

That is made possible by this decision.

And yet, when we tell that story,

with that iconic picture of Thurgood Marshall

standing on the steps of the Supreme Court,

Pauli is nowhere in view.

♪ ♪

It had been tradition that the top graduate

in the Howard Law class would get an automatic opportunity

to go to Harvard to do additional graduate work in law.

Pauli Murray graduates at the top of the class.

PAULI: The chairman of the graduate committee

wrote back and said, "Dear Miss Murray,

"The salutation on your transcript and your picture

"indicate that you are not of the sex

entitled to be admitted into Harvard."

COOPER: Every part of her identity

is keeping her out of the institutions

that she wants to be a part of and, more to the point,

that she's earned the right to be a part of.

Pauli goes on to Berkeley, gets a master of law,

and that's essentially the beginning of her legal career.

♪ ♪

BELL-SCOTT: Despite being one of the most

highly trained lawyers,

Pauli can't get in the door in a New York law firm.

Pauli was being discriminated against

on the basis of both race and gender.

She finally set up her own firm,

and one of the most painful experiences

was her going into court to represent a client

and having a witness identify Pauli

as the prostitute.

Because of course she couldn't possibly be the lawyer.

Pauli was barely making ends meet.

COOPER: Pauli had also been in and out of the hospital,

dealing with depression.

ROSENBERG: Murray suffered emotional breakdowns

pretty much on a yearly basis.

The turmoil and the-the suffering.

This is a person who kind of just needed

doctors to help in some capacity.

ROSENBERG: Pauli went to doctor after doctor after doctor

seeking testosterone.

COOPER: Pauli is imploring doctors,

"Do I have undescended testicles?"

WILLIS: That would take an immense amount of bravery

to speak on an experience

that you can't even quite put in words.

ROSENBERG: Doctors examined Pauli.

They did X-rays.

Once, Pauli was thrilled to, uh,

be able to undergo exploratory surgery

because Pauli was sure that the surgeon

was going to be able to find undescended testis.

And the surgeon found an inflamed appendix,

which he removed,

but nothing else out of the ordinary.

"What does it mean to make a person's turmoil irrelevant?

"What does it mean to claim

"so many of a person's accomplishments

"and to write books about so many aspects

"of a person's existence in this world,

"only omitting the one aspect that we don't understand

or that makes us uncomfortable?"

ROSENBERG: I hesitated

about including Murray's gender struggles

in my biography of her.

Other scholars said, well, you know,

that was her private life,

but I came to, uh, believe

that you couldn't really understand

why Murray was so far ahead of her time

without understanding that her sense of in-betweenness

made her increasingly critical of boundaries.

And that allowed her to make one of the most important ideas

of the 20th century: that the categories of race

and gender are essentially arbitrary

and not a legal basis for discrimination.

(typewriter keys clacking)

♪ ♪

BELL-SCOTT: When Pauli wrote these hot letters

to the White House, Eleanor wanted to understand

what was driving this young woman.

PAULI: I had been corresponding with Mrs. Roosevelt,

peppering her,

since the University of North Carolina incident.

(crowd cheering)

The fact that she was the First Lady of the land

did not awe me to the extent that I pulled my punches.

This is what made our friendship such a great one.

Pauli takes her friends and relatives to lunch

at Eleanor's New York apartment.

Eleanor becomes a mother surrogate.

Pauli and Eleanor had this tremendous difference

in social background, in status,

but they have a lot in common.

They were orphaned as children,

reared by elderly kin.

They were both veracious readers.

They loved to write.

Dogs gave them tremendous joy.

This is not a romantic relationship.

It becomes truly a friendship

with discussions about, um,

things beyond just politics.

PAULI: I think we were kind of kindred souls,

if I dare say this now.

But I had no difficulty relating to her.

She could be deeply compassionate...

...but she couldn't possibly feel

the intolerable burden of racism that would make us scream.

(crowd shouting)

PAULI: Few Negroes were surprised

when the Detroit riot broke out,

since the racial tensions which produced it

had been building steadily throughout the war.

♪ ♪

President Roosevelt was strangely silent.

His comment came more than a month later.

(Pauli reading):

PAULI: Close quote.

It seemed so mealymouthed

that I sat down immediately and wrote an angry poem.

What'd you get, black boy

When they knocked you down in the gutter

And they kicked your teeth out

And they broke your skull with clubs

And they bashed your stomach in?

What'd you get when you cried out to the Top Man?

What'd the Top Man say, black boy?

"Mr. Roosevelt regrets..."

-(distant siren wailing) -(horns honking)

After years of scrabbling to earn a living,

Lloyd K. Garrison, who I met at Howard,

called with the startling news

that his firm, Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison,

needed extra help in their litigation department.

This was a-a job that provided Murray

with more income than she'd ever earned in her life.

PAULI: This amazing good fortune filled me with anxiety.

I was now a middle-aged woman

reentering a highly competitive profession,

one of three women at the firm

and the only Negro among the 65 attorneys.

My most persistent problem during those years

was handling the loneliness of the woman professional.

Fortunately, Irene Barlow,

the office manager-personnel director,

shared my token status in a male domain.

Renee carried herself with an air of quite self-assurance.

Her strong, attractive face and blue-green eyes

radiated generosity and kindness.

(indistinct chattering)

Renee invited me to lunch

as a courteous gesture to a new employee.

Our conversation was tentative and formal.

But our discovery that we were both worshiping Episcopalians

was the beginning of a spiritual bond,

using lunch hours to attend the Wednesday services

at Saint Bartholomew's Church on Park Avenue.

Renee just took Pauli under her wing

to help her to say, now, don't wear that

and do do this,

and they became the closest of friends.

PAULI: Although Renee and I

were very different in our personalities,

the chemistry of our friendship produced sparks of sheer joy,

and we gravitated toward one another for mutual support.

MAN: On the afternoon of May 4th,

Mack Charles Parker's body was found floating

in the Pearl River near Poplarville.

Parker had been dragged from his jail cell

by a band of masked men.

He had been awaiting trial on charges of raping a white woman.

♪ ♪

PAULI: For a man to be lynched as late as 1959

seemed to symbolize

the barbarity of the American system.

This was following all of the violence of Little Rock,

the integration of Central High School.

There had just been nothing but violence

and violence and violence in the South,

and then Mack Parker just seemed to...

just to cap the climax.

PAULI: This was written on the occasion

of the lynching of Mack C. Parker.

I am an Episcopalian, and I use this prayer deliberately.

♪ ♪

♪ Just another day... ♪

PAULI: Lighten our darkness, we beseech thee, O Lord;

♪ That the Lord ♪

Teach us no longer to dread hounds yelping in the distance,

the footfall at the door,

the rifle butt on the window pane.

♪ Just another day... ♪

Defend us from all perils and dangers of this night.

♪ ♪

PAULI: Everybody has his breaking point.

My breaking point came with Mack Parker.

I had had it,

and I felt I needed to get away from the United States.

ROSENBERG: Pauli gave up this very prestigious position

at Paul, Weiss

and applied for, and was accepted, to be a law professor

at the newly created law school in Ghana in Africa.

♪ ♪

(ship's whistle blares)

♪ ♪

PAULI: I stayed in Africa 18 months,

studied it just the way I studied law in my graduate work.

(cheering)

BELL-SCOTT: Pauli's there

in the midst of these independence movements,

and this is exciting but also problematic.

PAULI: It soon became clear to me

that the president of Ghana had dictatorial instincts.

Suppressing freedom of speech.

I was a person committed to human rights

whether I was in North Carolina

or whether I was in Accra, Ghana.

BELL-SCOTT: The government is concerned

about what Pauli is teaching the students

about the American Constitution.

Independence, democracy.

PAULI: My time in Africa

only confirmed in me

that I was a product of the New World.

I feel as fully an American as anyone else.

♪ ♪

Black Americans go back to the very beginnings.

Our blood and our sweat and our tears and our memories

are built into the country.

We were very intrigued by Pauli Murray.

Here was this older woman.

I think she probably could have been our mother.

(crowd singing)

Most of the Black students were involved

with the civil rights movement.

I don't think I knew at the time she came to Yale Law School

that Pauli had been involved in protests

and-and sit-ins in D.C.

As far as we were concerned, we began the protests

with the sit-in movement in the 1960s.

We didn't know anything about the very brave African Americans

whose work is lost often with history.

Pauli Murray was so ahead of her time

that she was about the daily work of uncovering new issues.

This is a matter of great national concern.

BELL-SCOTT: When Murray was at Yale,

John F. Kennedy established

the Commission on the Status of Women.

The head of the overall commission

was Eleanor Roosevelt.

I want to see women used

to the very best, uh, of their ability.

BELL-SCOTT: Eleanor made sure that Pauli

was appointed to the study group

that looked at women's civil and political rights.

♪ ♪

PAULI: If you rip away everything,

the business of oppression

is the business of not respecting one's personhood.

All women understand what it means

to have a diminished sense of personal dignity and worth

because of one's sex.

MAN: What exactly was your part in the origin

of, uh, the National Organization for Women?

PAULI: I was one of the founders.

REID: Pauli met with Betty Friedan.

Betty and Pauli

and about 30 or so other women

determined that it was important to have a new organization.

SONIA PRESSMAN FUENTES: At a luncheon,

Betty took out a paper napkin

and began to write that we are forming NOW

to bring women into the mainstream

of American life now.

28 women signed.

REID: And that's how the National Organization for Women,

or NOW, was born.

BELL-SCOTT: Pauli was trying to come up with

a new strategy that would move

the efforts for women's rights forward.

And she did.

♪ ♪

REID: The 14th Amendment had led the way

for fighting discrimination on the basis of race.

COOPER: And so Pauli Murray's making an argument

that the 14th Amendment could actually be used

to defend women's rights as well.

ROSENBERG: That was a radical idea.

For those of us who were from the era

of the civil rights movement, that seemed a bit curious,

and please understand the background.

First and foremost on the minds of African Americans

was discrimination against people of color.

I have to ask myself,

"Eleanor, why weren't you a feminist then?"

But nobody was a feminist then except Pauli Murray. (chuckles)

♪ ♪

BELL-SCOTT: In the mid-1960s,

Pauli was on the board of the ACLU.

The American Civil Liberties Union brought suit today

to force a Saint Louis suburb to accept

an integrated, low-income apartment housing project.

BELL-SCOTT: The ACLU was already doing

quite a bit of work around civil rights cases,

but on women, they were like any other institution

in our society at the time.

Women were not well represented on the board.

Pauli was pushing, pushing them to move.

She wrote a letter arguing that Ruth Bader Ginsburg

should be a member of the board.

Pauli was a feisty woman.

Pauli had definite ideas, sometimes...

ideas other people disagreed with.

Pauli prodded the ACLU into taking on differentials

based on gender.

STRANGIO: It's always the people who are experiencing

the most forms of discrimination

who have the most insight into how to build the solutions,

and Pauli was that person.

BELL-SCOTT: In one of the ACLU cases in the South,

Blacks were being excluded from the jury.

Murray's argument was, well,

at the same time we're arguing

Black men should not be excluded,

women should not be excluded.

PAULI: This is a violation of their rights

under the equal protection,

a violation of the 14th Amendment.

The court came right down the line

actually using our language.

After so many losses and so many failures in a lifetime,

this was my sweetest victory.

REID: What she did became very important.

So important that when, uh, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, um,

was called on to work on a later Supreme Court case,

Reed v. Reed,

she used Pauli's work and then credited her.

Justice Ginsburg relied on the analysis

that Pauli had developed.

GINSBURG: We were not inventing something new.

We were saying the same things that Pauli had said

years earlier at a time

when society was not prepared to listen.

PAULI: What I say very often is

that I've lived to see my lost causes found.

CROWD (chanting): Pro-life, that's a lie.

They don't care if women die.

-♪ ♪ -(crowd chanting)

(typewriter keys clacking)

(crowd chanting)

I think we're in a time of very... radical change.

I have not had the additional responsibilities

of husband, household, children.

Uh, for me, it has been very important to have privacy.

You have to understand that Pauli was kind of

a circumspect person, kind of a private person.

INTERVIEWER: Did you know anything about

Pauli's personal life at that time?

I had absolutely no clue.

ROSENBERG: Pauli and Renee were very close.

They never lived together,

but Renee Barlow was the love of Pauli Murray's life.

("Symphony No. 4 in E Minor" by Johannes Brahms plays)

♪ ♪

ROSENBERG: They would meet each other in hotels

and then worry about the money that they had wasted.

But they were as close as a married couple

in the way that they supported each other.

♪ ♪

Renee, for years, was Murray's rock,

and allowed her to accomplish

more than she'd ever been able to accomplish before.

ANNOUNCER: This is WGBH-FM public radio in Boston.

HOST: Our guest tonight is Dr. Pauli Murray,

a lawyer, a leader in civil rights movement,

and now she has turned poet.

PAULI: Well, I want to reverse what you said.

I'm a poet turned lawyer rather than lawyer turned poet.

HOST: Now, I think this would be a good time for you to read

"Dark Testament."

PAULI: I was a Negro slave following the North Star,

I was an immigrant huddled in ship's belly,

Always the dream was the same--

Always the dream was freedom.

♪ ♪

PAULI: Martin Luther King stood for the possibility

of reconciliation between people.

JESSE JACKSON: Dr. King has been a buffer

the last few years between the Black community

and the white community.

(angry shouting)

PAULI: My feeling is that if this country is to survive...

MAN: We want Black Power!

-We want Black Power! -(crowd chanting)

PAULI: ...we must live together in harmony.

(crowd chanting)

We must continue to push for all of our demands.

COOPER: Black students had started

to take over campuses around the country,

demanding Black studies programs.

So Brandeis invites Pauli Murray to become a professor

as a symbolic act to say, "See, we're being inclusive."

ERNEST R. MYERS: I was walking around campus...

...and I saw this little brown woman,

and I asked somebody who she was.

They said, "Oh, that's Professor Murray,"

and I knew I wanted to be in this woman's class.

REGGIE SAPP: We came to Brandeis

as a part of the Transitional Year Program,

and we were also very poor.

We came from families

that didn't have books hanging on the wall.

PAULI: I developed a legal studies class

at the undergraduate level.

The 14th and 15th Amendments

have often tended to meet the claims of Negroes.

This historical development

has had certain unanticipated consequences.

She was dynamic, you know.

Um, and then the word "Negro" keeps coming up.

PAULI: It seemed to me, Negroes...

MYERS: And you-you hear the...

the muffling through the small Black section.

(scoffs softly)

-(chuckling) -She's talking about, you know,

social change in the law and the history of it.

You know, "We're definitely gonna deal

with the Negro section."

(groans)

REID: Pauli went to Brandeis intellectually sharp, but

fixed in her ways in certain things.

She thought that we should

always be referred to as Negroes.

PAULI: That's Negro with a capital "N."

In the South, it was always printed

with the ignominious small "N."

I was immediately attracted to the capitalized version,

which seemed to give dignity to my identification.

It remains my preference for describing people of color,

and I am uncomfortable with the lowercase "black."

CROWD: ♪ Black is beautiful ♪

Freedom!

♪ That I would agree ♪

Freedom!

♪ Black is beautiful ♪

Freedom!

REID: And you can imagine in the days

of civil rights movement, Black Power movement,

and here's this petite lady

teaching at Brandeis, talking about Negroes.

-(shouting) -(drums beating)

PAULI: I had fought for opening up dormitories

and opening up restaurants in the '40s.

The new breed who came along in the '60s,

they come and they want separate dormitories.

Almost as if they're gobbling up the generation behind them.

Now, that's hard to take.

MAN: Last January, Black students

at Brandeis University occupied a building

and demanded a Black studies program.

PAULI: The Black students took over one of the buildings,

and my office was in that building.

REID: Pauli thought the students were out of step,

uh, with reality and with history.

They, of course, thought she was out of step.

SAPP: They distanced themselves from her.

INTERVIEWER: Did Pauli ever say anything about that?

Well, I think she was hurt.

You could see it.

COOPER: Pauli just couldn't get it.

For all of her own youthful defiance,

she really struggled to understand

the spirit of young people, who...

if she were mad 30 years ago

and they're still dealing with the same challenges,

of course they're even angrier 30 years later.

MYERS: The Black students, who wanted to be

like Black Panthers, thought she was a Tom,

just by the way that, you know,

she didn't like the takeover, she didn't like

the word "Black," um...

but if that's all they knew,

they were missing the point.

♪ ♪

For any Black kid on that campus

and any woman on that campus,

she was walking history.

We even went to her house,

and she opened the door...

...and every wall of her house was books.

From top to bottom: books, books, books.

To me, it was paradise.

And I think the first thing I asked was,

"Have you... have you read all of these?"

She said, "Yes.

The ones I haven't read, I haven't put on the shelf yet."

SAPP: We got to trust her

because we came from educational situations

where people used to demean you

because you didn't know something.

She always respected who you were as a human being.

I remember feeling...

a little special.

She would have that Camel cigarette

sitting on the end of her lip.

(chuckles) Do you remember that?

-Yeah. -She would take that cigarette and...

(laughs)

And it's almost like,

"You need to learn something, Negro."

(laughing)

ROSENBERG: Murray was 60 and was very concerned

that she would not have enough money in her old age.

So she demanded that she be brought up for tenure.

♪ ♪

(typewriter keys clacking)

COOPER: "Lacks brilliance." "Is not up to standard."

Pauli is denied.

It was completely absurd, um, and so the battle was on.

ROSENBERG: Pauli said, "My contributions have been in law.

"Many of the ideas that you now take for granted

were radical when I first proposed them."

Pauli conceptualized so much of what

the legal architecture has been

for challenging systems of discrimination.

We can't comprehend legal movements for justice

without understanding Pauli's role in them.

ROSENBERG: And in the end,

the president of the university granted Pauli tenure.

PAULI: I'm gonna try to finish the book

in one more chapter.

And this is my most difficult chapter

because it deals with one of my best friends.

SAPP: Renee took care of the house.

Renee catalogued all the books.

She took care of the dog.

She kept Pauli Murray's agendas.

You know, if she couldn't find something,

"Oh, Renee, you know where this is?"

You know, that kind of thing.

Most people did not know that Pauli was gay.

And we all kept it under the radar.

INTERVIEWER: How did you know? Did Pauli talk to you about it?

No. I mean, I don't know how to describe it,

but if you're around someone

-long enough... -Long enough.

...you-you get a hint.

I mean, you just know.

Did Pauli talk about Renee?

She talked about-- Renee was her friend.

-That's the way she spoke... -Mm-hmm.

-...to us about it. -Always friend.

♪ ♪

ROSENBERG: Renee gets sick.

She has a recurrence of breast cancer.

She undergoes treatments that are unsuccessful,

and she dies in 1973.

PAULI: Most people who go through

the death and dying of cancer,

I say we're the walking wounded.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

PAULI: It seemed to me, as I looked back over my life,

that all of these problems of human rights

in which I had been involved

were moral and spiritual problems.

And I saw that the profession

to which I had devoted my life-- law--

could not give us the answers.

And I asked myself,

"What do you want to do with the time you have left?"

I was being pointed in the direction

of the priesthood or...

service to the church.

All of a sudden, she tells me

she's gonna be an Episcopal priest.

I was stunned.

Pauli was deeply religious.

I must say that I did not understand

that part of her, but she was.

Well, nobody could really figure out what she was doing.

"You're gonna leave your job and go where for four years?

Seminary school? Are you crazy?"

(bell tolling)

MAN: Today at the old Chapel of the Cross,

at the very altar where her grandmother

was baptized as a slave,

the Holy Eucharist is to be celebrated

for the first time by the Reverend Dr. Pauli Murray.

(congregation singing hymn)

ROSENBERG: By the time Pauli graduates

from theological school,

on the basis of Pauli's efforts

and the efforts of many other women,

the Episcopal Church decides to grant women

the right to be ordained.

And Pauli Murray is the very first Black woman

to be ordained in the Episcopal Church.

The Holy Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ

according to Luke.

CONGREGATION: Glory to you, Lord Christ.

The peace of the Lord be with you.

CONGREGATION: And also with you.

(indistinct chatter)

PAULI: What I was trying to communicate

as I administered the bread

was a lovingness for each individual.

(organ playing)

I think reconciliation is taking place

between individuals, groping out,

reaching toward one another.

It was not I as an individual,

it was that historic moment in time

when I represented a symbol of the past,

of the suffering, of the conflict,

reaching out my hand symbolically

and all of those behind me, and they were responding.

ROSS: She wasn't a listener when I was growing up.

She was a talker.

And after seminary school, um,

she became a listener.

As intense as she had been in fighting

and struggling and changing the world,

she was just as compassionate

as that when she was mentoring to people

through the church.

(bell tolling)

She had written short stories.

She had written

Proud Shoes, a family history.

She and James Baldwin

were the first African American writers

to be colonists at the prestigious MacDowell Colony.

By the early 1980s,

she had just about finished, in her words,

"that dreaded autobiography."

♪ ♪

Also, there were signs

that she had pancreatic cancer.

MAN: What do you fear most?

Just as a general question.

PAULI: What do I fear most?

Probably dying without finishing

what I'm... what I want to finish.

ROSS: It was important for her to tell her story

the way she wanted it told.

I knew she was working on-on another book,

a-a memoir,

and I knew she was kind of racing the-the clock.

(typewriter keys clacking)

It was, "Let's get this book done."

(typewriter keys clacking)

She could be impatient.

PAULI: What I tried to do

was to give a picture of Negro life

that reflects the fact

that we have lived so much like other Americans

and that in spite of all of the difficulties

and adversities, there are these flashes

of-of, uh, joy and humor.

(typewriter keys clacking)

I'm very close to the end of, uh,

of this, uh, manuscript, page 504.

If there were moments of deep despair,

there was the sustaining knowledge

that in the quest for human dignity,

one is part of a continuous movement

through time and history,

linked to a higher moral force in the universe.

♪ ♪

COOPER: Pauli left a legacy,

so why would we leave it on the table?

We literally live in an architecture of the world

that Pauli Murray built.

BELL-SCOTT: There are some scholars who now argue

that you cannot teach American history

without teaching about Pauli Murray.

♪ ♪

STRANGIO: When we were presenting our case

before the Supreme Court to ensure that LGBTQ people

are protected under federal laws prohibiting sex discrimination,

it was impossible to conceptualize

that work without Pauli.

WILLIS: Pauli may not have realized

that they would be a beacon of solace

for so many queer and transgender

and gender nonconforming folks.

Generations down the road, that's what they've become.

WOMAN: Today we're sitting in Pauli Murray College.

Back then, Pauli Murray would not have

even dreamed of anything like this.

(applause)

CHANDLER: If Pauli had been able to really

fully inhabit themselves, I think that it only would've...

would've improved the contributions that Pauli made

to the law or to religion, writing or to poetry.

What kind of magic would've happened?

(laughs)

TINA LU: If you study the past,

you have to let go of the idea

that the people who become well-respected and celebrated

correlate with the people

who deserve to be celebrated and well-respected.

Pauli is somebody whose time had not come.

Um, it might not yet come fully.

We have to work for a world in which it does come.

♪ ♪

KELEONA JIMINEZ: Give me a song of hope

And a world where I can sing it.

Give me a song of kindliness

And a country where I can live it.

Give me a song of hope and love

And a brown girl's heart to hear it.

Pauli Murray.

("This Train" by Sister Rosetta Tharpe plays)

-♪ This train is a clean train ♪ -(rhythmic clapping)

♪ This train ♪

♪ This train is a clean train ♪

♪ This train ♪

♪ This train is a clean train ♪

♪ Everybody riding in Jesus' name ♪

♪ This train is a clean train ♪

♪ This train ♪

♪ This train is bound for glory ♪

♪ This train ♪

♪ This train, Brother Spann, is bound for glory ♪

♪ You know this train ♪

♪ This train is bound for glory ♪

♪ Everybody riding her got to be holy ♪

♪ Because this train is a clean train ♪

♪ This train. ♪

(song ends)

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-(music ends) -(typewriter keys clack)