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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,544 --> 00:00:17,424 Leach: I feel that nobody helps these souls 2 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:19,147 that are lost out there, 3 00:00:19,149 --> 00:00:22,419 and somebody´s got to do it. 4 00:00:22,422 --> 00:00:25,302 Why can´t that somebody be me? 5 00:00:28,058 --> 00:00:29,658 Schroeder: Shocking. 6 00:00:29,660 --> 00:00:32,060 In 30 plus years, never come across something like this. 7 00:00:32,062 --> 00:00:35,772 And I hope the good Lord never lets me do that again. 8 00:00:37,207 --> 00:00:39,137 His entire life went missing -- 9 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:42,209 everything he owned down to his toothbrush. 10 00:00:42,212 --> 00:00:43,442 There was a stain found on the cup. 11 00:00:43,443 --> 00:00:46,123 May: And that´s when we immediately 12 00:00:46,116 --> 00:00:48,616 knew something was terribly wrong. 13 00:00:48,619 --> 00:00:51,779 Leach: I was obsessed with finding this person. 14 00:00:51,782 --> 00:00:54,632 There are just so many places to hide a body. 15 00:00:54,625 --> 00:00:56,285 Where do you begin to look? 16 00:00:56,286 --> 00:00:59,126 Leach: This was one that I had to solve. 17 00:00:59,129 --> 00:01:07,499 ♫♫ 18 00:01:07,497 --> 00:01:16,107 ♫♫ 19 00:01:16,106 --> 00:01:24,476 ♫♫ 20 00:01:24,484 --> 00:01:28,294 I´m Ellen Leach. I live in Gulfport, Mississippi. 21 00:01:31,161 --> 00:01:33,361 Been here since 2001. 22 00:01:34,865 --> 00:01:39,665 I met Chip online, so he kind of made me move. 23 00:01:41,672 --> 00:01:44,512 She was living in Lake Jackson or Clute, 24 00:01:44,505 --> 00:01:48,175 if you will, south of Houston, and I was living here. 25 00:01:48,178 --> 00:01:51,378 We´d talk on the Internet. 26 00:01:51,381 --> 00:01:54,821 Internet relationship, if you will. 27 00:01:54,815 --> 00:01:58,245 Days turned into weeks, turned into months, 28 00:01:58,248 --> 00:02:00,788 turned into [indistinct] 29 00:02:00,791 --> 00:02:02,751 It´s just the two of us. 30 00:02:02,753 --> 00:02:06,763 We have a dog named Loki and two cats. 31 00:02:06,757 --> 00:02:10,527 Glass: She was a girl to ride the river with. 32 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:12,461 She´s just got a good heart. 33 00:02:12,462 --> 00:02:16,472 I... I couldn´t want anything else. 34 00:02:16,466 --> 00:02:22,406 ♫♫ 35 00:02:22,412 --> 00:02:26,452 In 1994, I got a phone call from my mom, 36 00:02:26,446 --> 00:02:30,816 and she said my cousin´s boys were missing. 37 00:02:30,821 --> 00:02:33,151 My cousin -- his name is David. 38 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:37,763 His wife, Susan, and they had two boys -- 39 00:02:37,758 --> 00:02:41,788 Michael and Alex. 40 00:02:41,792 --> 00:02:44,432 In South Carolina, the evening drive that turned 41 00:02:44,434 --> 00:02:46,374 into a mother´s nightmare. 42 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:47,896 Federal authorities have launched 43 00:02:47,898 --> 00:02:49,738 a nationwide search for a carjacker. 44 00:02:49,740 --> 00:02:52,840 According to his victim, he not only stole her car, 45 00:02:52,843 --> 00:02:55,583 he stole her children, too. 46 00:02:55,576 --> 00:02:58,646 Leach: I couldn´t be there to help with the search, 47 00:02:58,649 --> 00:03:01,709 so the only thing I could do was go online 48 00:03:01,712 --> 00:03:04,352 and try to look around, 49 00:03:04,354 --> 00:03:06,864 trying to find some kind of clue. 50 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:12,789 The mother, Susan, told the police that a Black man 51 00:03:12,793 --> 00:03:17,303 had kidnapped her kids and hijacked the car. 52 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:22,497 I would like to say to whoever has my children... 53 00:03:24,374 --> 00:03:26,414 ...that they please, 54 00:03:26,406 --> 00:03:30,336 I mean, please bring them home. 55 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:32,540 Leach: Something wasn´t right. 56 00:03:32,543 --> 00:03:35,553 And the police caught on to that. 57 00:03:35,546 --> 00:03:38,516 They knew she was lying. 58 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:43,349 Susan Smith has been arrested and will be charged 59 00:03:43,353 --> 00:03:44,833 with two counts of murder 60 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:48,325 in connection with the deaths of her children -- 61 00:03:48,328 --> 00:03:52,598 Michael, 3, and Alexander. 14 months. 62 00:03:52,603 --> 00:03:54,263 Barbara Walters: The jury voted 63 00:03:54,264 --> 00:03:56,314 for Susan Smith to face life imprisonment. 64 00:03:56,306 --> 00:04:00,736 In South Carolina, that means 30 years. 65 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:06,721 That devastated my cousin David and -- and my uncle Dave, too, 66 00:04:06,717 --> 00:04:08,647 as he lost his grandbabies. 67 00:04:11,722 --> 00:04:14,352 And that´s how I started sleuthing. 68 00:04:16,887 --> 00:04:19,987 When I was looking for my cousin´s boys, 69 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:23,960 I stumbled across the site called Doe Network. 70 00:04:23,964 --> 00:04:27,004 It had missing persons. 71 00:04:26,997 --> 00:04:30,397 It had unidentified bodies. 72 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,600 We were the people that took the information, put it online, 73 00:04:33,604 --> 00:04:35,414 processed it for law enforcement, 74 00:04:35,405 --> 00:04:38,505 and then brought tips back. 75 00:04:38,509 --> 00:04:40,779 Leach: I got to see how many people were missing 76 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:43,681 and how many unidentified were out there. 77 00:04:43,684 --> 00:04:46,694 It had a personal effect on me. 78 00:04:46,687 --> 00:04:52,657 I saw all these missing persons on this website 79 00:04:52,663 --> 00:04:55,903 and I thought, "Somebody has got to help them. 80 00:04:55,896 --> 00:04:57,796 I know what they´re going through. 81 00:04:57,798 --> 00:05:01,528 Somebody has got to help them. 82 00:05:01,532 --> 00:05:03,532 They need to find their loved ones." 83 00:05:03,534 --> 00:05:08,644 And that´s when I started looking more and more into it. 84 00:05:11,441 --> 00:05:15,051 I prefer to work on the harder cases, 85 00:05:15,045 --> 00:05:18,715 the ones that not many people look at. 86 00:05:21,792 --> 00:05:25,862 I´m sitting in front of my computer. 87 00:05:25,856 --> 00:05:30,356 I´m scrolling through, looking at missing persons, 88 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,960 and I came across a skull in a bucket of cement 89 00:05:33,964 --> 00:05:36,514 in Kearney, Missouri. 90 00:05:36,507 --> 00:05:43,707 It said it was a male, Caucasian, 50s to 60s, 91 00:05:43,714 --> 00:05:46,024 and there wasn´t much else there. 92 00:05:46,016 --> 00:05:50,016 That was all the information they gave. 93 00:05:50,020 --> 00:05:52,450 Reporter: Police who searched this area around the truck stop 94 00:05:52,452 --> 00:05:53,782 when the skull was discovered 95 00:05:53,784 --> 00:05:55,964 theorize that the cement cylinder was dropped off 96 00:05:55,956 --> 00:05:58,086 at this truck stop and the actual crime scene 97 00:05:58,088 --> 00:06:00,628 where the murder took place is elsewhere. 98 00:06:00,631 --> 00:06:01,931 It could have happened anywhere 99 00:06:01,932 --> 00:06:03,632 with 535 running through here. 100 00:06:03,634 --> 00:06:05,944 You know, we´re looking anywhere from Canada to Mexico. 101 00:06:05,936 --> 00:06:07,836 Reporter: Kearney Police Chief Tom Carey wants to find out 102 00:06:07,838 --> 00:06:09,698 the man´s identity to help bring closure 103 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:11,970 to a family somewhere who is missing him. 104 00:06:13,604 --> 00:06:16,754 Matthews: In August of 2001 in Kearney, Missouri, 105 00:06:16,747 --> 00:06:18,647 somebody at a truck stop 106 00:06:18,649 --> 00:06:21,809 finds a plastic bucket full of concrete, 107 00:06:21,812 --> 00:06:24,862 and eventually it contains a human skull. 108 00:06:24,855 --> 00:06:27,015 Imagine the surprise of that. 109 00:06:27,017 --> 00:06:28,957 It´s a John Doe. 110 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:30,619 You´re looking at the possibility 111 00:06:30,621 --> 00:06:34,121 this is somebody that was murdered on purpose. 112 00:06:34,124 --> 00:06:36,404 You´re not looking at just somebody 113 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:38,866 that just walked off and went missing. 114 00:06:41,031 --> 00:06:43,801 Leach: Who´s gonna put a skull in a bucket of cement 115 00:06:43,804 --> 00:06:47,644 and leave it at a truck stop? 116 00:06:47,638 --> 00:06:50,738 This was one that I had to solve. 117 00:06:50,741 --> 00:06:54,551 It was a puzzle that had to be worked. 118 00:06:54,545 --> 00:07:01,645 ♫♫ 119 00:07:01,652 --> 00:07:03,122 My name is Shannon May. 120 00:07:03,123 --> 00:07:05,663 I live in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. 121 00:07:05,656 --> 00:07:07,696 This is the town I grew up as a child. 122 00:07:07,698 --> 00:07:10,558 It´s a small, little Midwestern town. 123 00:07:10,561 --> 00:07:13,431 People are very friendly. It´s a tourist town. 124 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:16,773 It´s just about an hour and a half north of Chicago 125 00:07:16,767 --> 00:07:19,107 and about 45 minutes south of Milwaukee. 126 00:07:19,109 --> 00:07:21,709 This is a beautiful spring-fed lake. 127 00:07:21,712 --> 00:07:23,672 There´s lots of activity going on here. 128 00:07:23,674 --> 00:07:26,784 It´s a quaint, little, very friendly, neighborhood town. 129 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:31,879 Growing up here was a magical time. 130 00:07:31,882 --> 00:07:33,822 Every day was a new adventure. 131 00:07:33,824 --> 00:07:36,094 We had the lake to go fishing on, sailing, 132 00:07:36,086 --> 00:07:38,226 which we often did with our father. 133 00:07:38,228 --> 00:07:40,858 So many things to do. We flew kites. 134 00:07:40,861 --> 00:07:42,831 My dad loved to do that. 135 00:07:42,833 --> 00:07:45,103 There were a lot of things for kids to do here 136 00:07:45,095 --> 00:07:49,595 that just makes for a very Norman Rockwell happy childhood. 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,600 I´m the daughter of Greg May. 138 00:07:51,602 --> 00:07:53,042 I was just 2 years old 139 00:07:53,043 --> 00:07:57,513 when my father set up his first tattoo shop. 140 00:07:57,508 --> 00:07:59,048 My father was a very good artist, 141 00:07:59,049 --> 00:08:02,079 and he was just drawn to tattoos for some reason. 142 00:08:02,082 --> 00:08:03,612 It really appealed to him. 143 00:08:03,614 --> 00:08:06,764 He could really master it. 144 00:08:06,757 --> 00:08:08,887 His work was very well recognized, 145 00:08:08,889 --> 00:08:11,659 so he really made a name for himself over the years. 146 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:15,833 My father, you know, his business was his business 147 00:08:15,826 --> 00:08:17,666 and on his off time, it was his business 148 00:08:17,668 --> 00:08:20,028 and he kept trying to keep his family separated from that. 149 00:08:20,030 --> 00:08:22,170 He didn´t even let anybody in town know where he lived. 150 00:08:22,172 --> 00:08:24,202 So we were never allowed to tell anybody 151 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:26,184 exactly where we lived because at that time, 152 00:08:26,176 --> 00:08:28,776 tattooing was still kind of the -- 153 00:08:28,779 --> 00:08:32,939 the little bit darker side of life, I would say. 154 00:08:32,943 --> 00:08:35,053 A lot of people, they thought, "Oh, this tattoo artist," 155 00:08:35,045 --> 00:08:37,215 they expected somebody covered in tattoos, 156 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:40,987 scruffy, probably, you know, stained T-shirt. 157 00:08:40,991 --> 00:08:43,251 You would never find him wearing tennis shoes, say. 158 00:08:43,253 --> 00:08:46,263 So he was always either in cowboy boots. 159 00:08:46,256 --> 00:08:48,296 And he really liked his cowboy hat. 160 00:08:48,298 --> 00:08:50,298 I think, because it was appealing to him -- 161 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:51,730 the Old Wild West, you know, 162 00:08:51,732 --> 00:08:54,162 the Jesse James stories, things like that. 163 00:08:54,164 --> 00:08:57,174 He actually went so far as to iron his jeans, 164 00:08:57,167 --> 00:08:59,167 which I always thought was funny. 165 00:08:59,169 --> 00:09:01,669 He would go to the library every day 166 00:09:01,672 --> 00:09:03,312 and read "The Wall Street Journal." 167 00:09:03,313 --> 00:09:06,053 You´d hear the buzzing of the needles in the tattoo shop, 168 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:08,946 and he would have the stock market on the radio. 169 00:09:10,921 --> 00:09:13,751 He sort of looked like Buddy Holly when he was younger. 170 00:09:13,754 --> 00:09:15,034 And then as a little bit older, 171 00:09:15,025 --> 00:09:17,655 he kind of looked like the Marlboro Man. 172 00:09:17,658 --> 00:09:19,028 And being a tattoo artist 173 00:09:19,029 --> 00:09:20,859 afforded him to what he really liked to do, 174 00:09:20,861 --> 00:09:23,591 which was an avid antique collector. 175 00:09:23,594 --> 00:09:25,204 Not just any antiques. 176 00:09:25,195 --> 00:09:28,165 He really honed in on the Civil War. 177 00:09:28,168 --> 00:09:32,938 His collection was estimated, we thought about $250,000. 178 00:09:32,943 --> 00:09:35,153 He really loved American history. 179 00:09:35,145 --> 00:09:39,975 ♫♫ 180 00:09:39,980 --> 00:09:45,020 So I started searching for who this skull could be. 181 00:09:45,015 --> 00:09:47,815 And I searched and I searched. 182 00:09:47,818 --> 00:09:51,258 I was obsessed with finding this person. 183 00:09:51,261 --> 00:09:55,601 Back then, there wasn´t any Twitter or Facebook 184 00:09:55,596 --> 00:09:57,126 or anything like that. 185 00:09:57,127 --> 00:10:01,197 You had to type in "State of Iowa missing persons" 186 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:06,011 or "State of Texas missing persons." 187 00:10:06,006 --> 00:10:10,736 Once I see a listing, I look at it and you think, 188 00:10:10,741 --> 00:10:13,741 "Who is this person? What did they do for a living? 189 00:10:13,744 --> 00:10:15,994 What did they like to do? 190 00:10:15,986 --> 00:10:18,286 What´s their family like?" 191 00:10:18,288 --> 00:10:22,118 You want to find out more about this person, 192 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:26,962 and it takes a lot of work. 193 00:10:26,957 --> 00:10:28,397 There are, at any given time, 194 00:10:28,398 --> 00:10:30,698 around 80,000 missing-persons reports 195 00:10:30,701 --> 00:10:32,761 that are active in the United States. 196 00:10:32,763 --> 00:10:35,113 We know through a lot of surveys 197 00:10:35,105 --> 00:10:36,805 that we´ve conducted over the years 198 00:10:36,807 --> 00:10:40,737 that there´s possibly up to 40,000 unidentified bodies. 199 00:10:40,741 --> 00:10:44,651 That´s the silent mass disaster. 200 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:48,175 Leach: I´ve learned that the remains usually aren´t far 201 00:10:48,178 --> 00:10:50,718 from where the person went missing. 202 00:10:50,721 --> 00:10:55,031 So everything is gonna be closer than you think. 203 00:10:55,025 --> 00:10:57,325 First, I look within a 20-mile radius 204 00:10:57,327 --> 00:11:01,327 to find any missing persons that might be attached to that. 205 00:11:03,333 --> 00:11:06,873 If the characteristics don´t match, like age, 206 00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:10,797 hair color, height, weight, 207 00:11:10,801 --> 00:11:12,441 I eliminate them from that list 208 00:11:12,442 --> 00:11:15,412 and then I move on to a bigger radius -- 209 00:11:15,405 --> 00:11:20,045 30 miles, 40, 50 miles, up to 500 miles. 210 00:11:20,050 --> 00:11:22,810 When I´m doing this, 211 00:11:22,813 --> 00:11:25,223 the possibilities are endless. 212 00:11:25,215 --> 00:11:29,215 You just have to put out the initiative to do it, 213 00:11:29,219 --> 00:11:33,759 to say, "I´m gonna do it and get it done." 214 00:11:33,764 --> 00:11:35,134 You´ve got to have the willpower 215 00:11:35,125 --> 00:11:38,195 to keep going at something like this. 216 00:11:41,131 --> 00:11:45,141 May: My parents separated and divorced in 1977, 217 00:11:45,135 --> 00:11:47,435 but they always remained friends. 218 00:11:47,437 --> 00:11:50,907 When I was a teenager, we moved to California. 219 00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:53,241 My father came out every holiday. 220 00:11:53,243 --> 00:11:55,393 We would talk on the phone very often. 221 00:11:57,447 --> 00:11:59,347 Met her dad, and I had 222 00:11:59,349 --> 00:12:02,089 gotten tattoos from him when I was younger. 223 00:12:02,092 --> 00:12:03,822 So then when I came to him, he was like, 224 00:12:03,824 --> 00:12:07,204 "Yeah, I´ll show you." He ended up taking me in 225 00:12:07,197 --> 00:12:09,297 and then I worked for him for a few years 226 00:12:09,299 --> 00:12:12,129 and then he wanted to retire. 227 00:12:12,132 --> 00:12:14,032 So then we had worked out a deal 228 00:12:14,034 --> 00:12:16,914 where I was gonna buy the shop. 229 00:12:16,907 --> 00:12:19,037 My dad was gonna lend me the money, 230 00:12:19,039 --> 00:12:20,409 and he passed away. 231 00:12:20,410 --> 00:12:22,340 So I remember -- I´ll never forget the day 232 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:24,312 I called Greg from the hospital, and I said, 233 00:12:24,314 --> 00:12:27,284 "Hey, I ain´t got the money to buy the shop." 234 00:12:27,277 --> 00:12:29,047 And he said, "Don´t worry about it." 235 00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:31,519 You know, he was really, like, caring. 236 00:12:31,522 --> 00:12:33,882 And he said, "Just do what you have to do. 237 00:12:33,884 --> 00:12:36,234 Take care of your family. 238 00:12:36,226 --> 00:12:38,886 When you´re done, we´ll sit, we´ll talk." 239 00:12:38,889 --> 00:12:42,429 And I said, "Okay." And I´ll never forget it. 240 00:12:42,432 --> 00:12:45,502 In essence, you know, he gave me the shop 241 00:12:45,495 --> 00:12:49,265 and for him to do that was pretty epic. 242 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:51,899 He was like a second father to me. 243 00:12:54,204 --> 00:12:56,984 After working hard all his life, 244 00:12:56,977 --> 00:12:58,477 he finally afforded himself to retire at a young age. 245 00:12:58,478 --> 00:13:02,278 He was 54 years old when he was retired. 246 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:04,212 He had ended up across the Mississippi River 247 00:13:04,214 --> 00:13:07,524 in a little town called Bellevue, Iowa. 248 00:13:07,518 --> 00:13:11,258 ♫♫ 249 00:13:11,261 --> 00:13:16,501 Bellevue´s population is about 2,360 people. 250 00:13:16,496 --> 00:13:19,196 We´ve actually grown. 251 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,469 I call it a bedroom community, 252 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:23,170 where people come here to actually live, 253 00:13:23,173 --> 00:13:25,883 but they work outside, maybe up to an hour or so away. 254 00:13:25,876 --> 00:13:28,276 They drive back and forth. 255 00:13:28,278 --> 00:13:31,478 Oh, the Mississippi is a great draw. 256 00:13:31,481 --> 00:13:35,321 I´ve been here for 31 years on this job here. 257 00:13:35,315 --> 00:13:39,015 I worked up the ranks from patrolman to assistant chief, 258 00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:41,149 and now I am the chief of police. 259 00:13:44,094 --> 00:13:45,364 May: Seventh, eighth grade, 260 00:13:45,355 --> 00:13:47,295 that´s when I first met Douglas DeBruin, 261 00:13:47,297 --> 00:13:48,497 and he went by the name of "Moose," 262 00:13:48,498 --> 00:13:50,558 so I only ever knew him as Moose. 263 00:13:50,561 --> 00:13:52,031 He was a big guy. 264 00:13:52,032 --> 00:13:54,432 He was -- I think he was about 6´3". 265 00:13:54,434 --> 00:13:56,844 And he was just very broad shoulders, 266 00:13:56,837 --> 00:13:59,237 you know, short, kind of curly hair. 267 00:13:59,239 --> 00:14:01,909 He was just always a guy that was at the shop 268 00:14:01,912 --> 00:14:04,012 or my dad would go and have maybe a beer 269 00:14:04,014 --> 00:14:05,324 with him afterwards. 270 00:14:05,315 --> 00:14:06,515 Eventually, after Moose hanging around 271 00:14:06,517 --> 00:14:08,217 the tattoo shop for a while, 272 00:14:08,218 --> 00:14:10,278 my father, you know, actually took him under his wing. 273 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,220 He offered to show him how to tattoo 274 00:14:12,222 --> 00:14:14,122 so that he could have a trade. 275 00:14:14,124 --> 00:14:15,534 So as time went on, 276 00:14:15,526 --> 00:14:18,256 they did develop some sort of a friendship. 277 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:19,858 My father had moved to Bellevue. 278 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:22,260 Moose didn´t have a place to go, I guess, 279 00:14:22,262 --> 00:14:24,132 so my dad told him he could stay in his basement 280 00:14:24,134 --> 00:14:26,274 until he could get on his feet. 281 00:14:28,138 --> 00:14:31,598 When new people come to town, they just get your -- your eye. 282 00:14:31,602 --> 00:14:33,902 They kind of say, "Ooh, who´s that?" 283 00:14:33,904 --> 00:14:37,984 So you tried to make contact with them on a nice way 284 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,608 because that´s what -- We´re a friendly town. We are. 285 00:14:40,611 --> 00:14:44,521 I did meet Greg and Doug down on Front Street. 286 00:14:44,515 --> 00:14:48,055 Probably a block away from where they lived. 287 00:14:48,058 --> 00:14:52,388 Didn´t talk shop or nothing. Just little small talk. 288 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:55,472 I think Doug and Greg were good buddies. 289 00:14:55,465 --> 00:14:58,995 I mean, I would compare them to a couple of my friends 290 00:14:58,999 --> 00:15:03,169 when we go out walking or going to eat or whatever. 291 00:15:03,173 --> 00:15:06,183 You know, they seem like they were buds. 292 00:15:06,176 --> 00:15:10,176 ♫♫ 293 00:15:10,180 --> 00:15:15,020 Buman: I was out one night and Greg come in 294 00:15:15,015 --> 00:15:18,115 and he sat down next to me and was sitting there talking 295 00:15:18,118 --> 00:15:20,548 and he bought me a drink. 296 00:15:20,551 --> 00:15:23,191 The first impression I got of Greg, 297 00:15:23,193 --> 00:15:25,433 is when I -- 298 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,195 I looked at him and I thought, 299 00:15:27,197 --> 00:15:30,297 "Oh, God, he ain´t too bad-looking." 300 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:32,260 And then next thing you know, he says, 301 00:15:32,262 --> 00:15:34,972 "You want to go to another bar?" I said, "Sure." 302 00:15:34,965 --> 00:15:38,405 And then maybe the next day, he got ahold of me 303 00:15:38,408 --> 00:15:40,138 and he called me 304 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:44,140 and seemed like we just started going out together. 305 00:15:44,144 --> 00:15:46,384 Greg told me he was divorced 306 00:15:46,376 --> 00:15:51,146 and he had two kids -- Don and Shannon. 307 00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:53,351 The reason he come to Bellevue as because 308 00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:55,963 he said he liked the Mississippi River. 309 00:15:55,956 --> 00:15:58,626 It was right next to the Mississippi River. 310 00:15:58,629 --> 00:16:03,589 Yeah, Greg loved it here, but he hated the wintertime. 311 00:16:03,594 --> 00:16:07,974 He hated being cold and he wanted to move down to Florida. 312 00:16:07,968 --> 00:16:11,498 And he asked me if I wanted to go, and I said, "Sure." 313 00:16:11,502 --> 00:16:14,372 Me and Greg was gonna start our life together. 314 00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:16,014 I was happy. 315 00:16:16,006 --> 00:16:18,376 I was happy that Greg asked me. 316 00:16:18,378 --> 00:16:19,748 I was ready to go. 317 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:22,380 I was ready to get out of this winter, too. 318 00:16:25,756 --> 00:16:28,386 Leach: I do my calculations and I´ll write down, 319 00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:32,158 "This one looks good or this one looks good," 320 00:16:32,162 --> 00:16:39,132 and then I narrow it down by age, timing, things like that. 321 00:16:39,129 --> 00:16:43,399 And when I narrow it down, I´ll have two or three left. 322 00:16:43,403 --> 00:16:47,083 Glass: She spends a massive amount of time at it. 323 00:16:47,077 --> 00:16:50,737 If she´s -- if she´s awake and not at work, she´s doing that. 324 00:16:53,544 --> 00:16:55,454 She´s got a big heart. She worries about people. 325 00:16:55,445 --> 00:16:57,485 She´ll fret about it at night. 326 00:16:57,487 --> 00:16:59,147 In the middle of the night, 327 00:16:59,149 --> 00:17:00,689 she´ll say something that maybe she had forgotten 328 00:17:00,691 --> 00:17:03,751 that evening or something or something she want to look at 329 00:17:03,754 --> 00:17:07,504 or a different resource that she needed to try. 330 00:17:08,699 --> 00:17:11,429 Leach: I found a man in Chicago. 331 00:17:11,431 --> 00:17:16,041 His age was about right -- 50 to 60. 332 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,066 I then looked at the mileage. 333 00:17:18,068 --> 00:17:20,468 It was 451 miles. 334 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:22,110 It was a little on the higher range, 335 00:17:22,112 --> 00:17:24,142 but it was still under 500 miles. 336 00:17:24,144 --> 00:17:29,354 So I said, "Well, maybe. Let´s give it a shot." 337 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,820 And the timing was right. 338 00:17:31,822 --> 00:17:36,192 He went missing right before the skull was found. 339 00:17:36,186 --> 00:17:37,826 I thought it was a mob hit. 340 00:17:37,828 --> 00:17:41,128 It reminded me of something a mob would do. 341 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:46,572 The Doe Network, they´ve got administrators for each state 342 00:17:46,567 --> 00:17:49,667 that get their cases. 343 00:17:49,670 --> 00:17:53,200 If you have a possible match you want to turn in, 344 00:17:53,203 --> 00:17:55,213 you have to go through them. 345 00:17:55,205 --> 00:17:57,605 They don´t want to send bad matches. 346 00:17:57,608 --> 00:18:01,608 They send only the cases they think will work out. 347 00:18:01,612 --> 00:18:03,382 Matthews: And there´s hundreds, 348 00:18:03,383 --> 00:18:05,693 maybe thousands of cyber sleuths out there 349 00:18:05,686 --> 00:18:09,486 that have theories and that can become deafening, 350 00:18:09,489 --> 00:18:11,259 that can actually become overwhelming 351 00:18:11,261 --> 00:18:12,661 for law enforcement. 352 00:18:12,663 --> 00:18:16,533 And Ellen was not 100% happy with this 353 00:18:16,527 --> 00:18:19,497 because she felt like 354 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:23,429 she should have more direct contact with law enforcement. 355 00:18:23,433 --> 00:18:26,313 Leach: So I have this match in Chicago, 356 00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:28,376 and I think it´s a good match. 357 00:18:28,378 --> 00:18:30,878 And I had narrowed it down. 358 00:18:30,881 --> 00:18:34,851 So I e-mail it to the Doe Network. 359 00:18:34,845 --> 00:18:36,645 I had a long shot. 360 00:18:36,647 --> 00:18:42,387 ♫♫ 361 00:18:42,392 --> 00:18:43,792 May: My father would normally come out 362 00:18:43,794 --> 00:18:45,664 and visit us every Christmas. 363 00:18:45,656 --> 00:18:48,256 So when I asked him, "Are you still planning to come out?" 364 00:18:48,258 --> 00:18:50,628 He said, "You know, I´m getting so close to moving. 365 00:18:50,631 --> 00:18:52,361 I think it´s better if we just wait. 366 00:18:52,362 --> 00:18:55,172 Why don´t we wait until I get settled down in Florida?" 367 00:18:55,165 --> 00:18:58,635 Buman: And I come back to Bellevue, 368 00:18:58,639 --> 00:19:00,669 and I tried the door. 369 00:19:00,671 --> 00:19:05,681 ♫♫ 370 00:19:05,676 --> 00:19:08,146 And the door was locked. 371 00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:12,148 ♫♫ 372 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:15,392 This shade was up a little bit, so I looked in. 373 00:19:15,385 --> 00:19:19,825 I seen Greg sitting there on the chair. 374 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:23,360 So I went down to the bar and I called up here and... 375 00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:24,703 [ Telephone rings ] 376 00:19:24,695 --> 00:19:28,165 ...and I got the answering machine. 377 00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:34,508 So I come back up here, and I look back in the shade 378 00:19:34,505 --> 00:19:39,705 and nobody answered the door and -- and I didn´t see anybody. 379 00:19:39,710 --> 00:19:43,450 And so it was so cold out that night, about 20 below, 380 00:19:43,453 --> 00:19:47,193 so I just got in my car and I left. 381 00:19:48,819 --> 00:19:50,519 I was really hurt. 382 00:19:50,521 --> 00:19:53,721 I just couldn´t figure out why he´d do that to me. 383 00:19:57,467 --> 00:19:59,527 I knew something was wrong, you know, 384 00:19:59,530 --> 00:20:01,630 but I didn´t know what to do. 385 00:20:01,632 --> 00:20:06,642 ♫♫ 386 00:20:06,637 --> 00:20:08,377 [ Telephone rings ] 387 00:20:08,378 --> 00:20:10,278 May: I believe it was a Sunday that I called him 388 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,740 and a woman I didn´t know answered the phone 389 00:20:12,743 --> 00:20:15,753 and I immediately said, "Hi, who´s this?" 390 00:20:15,746 --> 00:20:17,486 I thought maybe I had the wrong number, 391 00:20:17,487 --> 00:20:19,987 but I mean, I knew his number. I wouldn´t dial it wrong. 392 00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:21,890 She said, "This is Julie." 393 00:20:21,892 --> 00:20:24,832 And I said, "This is Greg´s daughter, Shannon. 394 00:20:24,825 --> 00:20:26,695 Is he there?" And she said, "No." 395 00:20:26,697 --> 00:20:28,897 Oh, this is Julie, Moose´s girlfriend." 396 00:20:28,899 --> 00:20:30,829 I said, "Well, he´s called me a couple of times. 397 00:20:30,831 --> 00:20:32,661 I don´t want him to think I´m not calling him back. 398 00:20:32,663 --> 00:20:34,363 Will you please let him know I called?" 399 00:20:34,364 --> 00:20:36,974 She said, "Well, he´s gone to Chicago for the day. 400 00:20:36,967 --> 00:20:40,237 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I´ll let him know." 401 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,710 After about two or three days, I alerted my brother. 402 00:20:43,714 --> 00:20:45,654 I said, "Hey, something is wrong. 403 00:20:45,646 --> 00:20:47,476 I´m trying to call Dad, and he´s not answering. 404 00:20:47,477 --> 00:20:50,777 It´s been a couple of days now," so my brother kept trying 405 00:20:50,781 --> 00:20:55,961 and we both -- just alarm bells going off with both of us. 406 00:20:55,956 --> 00:20:58,026 If my father decided to change his number, 407 00:20:58,028 --> 00:20:59,728 he would have told us. 408 00:20:59,730 --> 00:21:01,630 I mean, as it was, he kept records of everything. 409 00:21:01,632 --> 00:21:04,572 He was very precise, extremely organized. 410 00:21:04,565 --> 00:21:06,965 But the next day, his phone was disconnected. 411 00:21:06,967 --> 00:21:09,567 And that´s when the alarm bells went off. 412 00:21:11,772 --> 00:21:14,552 So my brother knew that my father´s friend Gary Germaine 413 00:21:14,545 --> 00:21:16,705 lived a short distance from his house. 414 00:21:16,707 --> 00:21:19,547 My brother was able to get ahold of Gary and asked him, 415 00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:20,980 "Can you please go over to the house 416 00:21:20,981 --> 00:21:23,311 and see what´s going on over there?" 417 00:21:23,313 --> 00:21:26,863 So Gary says, "Sure." He went over there. 418 00:21:26,857 --> 00:21:29,687 He called us back and he said, "You know, the house is empty." 419 00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:31,890 My father´s car wasn´t there. 420 00:21:31,892 --> 00:21:35,432 And that´s when we immediately knew something 421 00:21:35,425 --> 00:21:38,295 was terribly wrong. 422 00:21:38,298 --> 00:21:41,828 I received a call from Greg´s son, Don, 423 00:21:41,832 --> 00:21:44,712 about his father possibly being missing. 424 00:21:44,705 --> 00:21:46,775 We went over to the neighborhood, 425 00:21:46,777 --> 00:21:49,737 to his house to knock to see if he was there. 426 00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:52,540 You have to find out, is he still in the area? 427 00:21:52,543 --> 00:21:55,923 Did he leave? What the case may be. 428 00:21:55,916 --> 00:21:58,686 My brother and I decided to book a trip to the Midwest 429 00:21:58,689 --> 00:22:01,419 and come see for ourselves what was going on. 430 00:22:01,421 --> 00:22:02,991 This is the house in Bellevue 431 00:22:02,993 --> 00:22:05,503 where Gregory May lived since last May. 432 00:22:05,495 --> 00:22:07,395 His children believe that some items 433 00:22:07,397 --> 00:22:09,857 from his antique collection are missing from the home. 434 00:22:09,860 --> 00:22:11,800 Authorities continue to investigate this 435 00:22:11,802 --> 00:22:13,402 as a missing-persons case 436 00:22:13,403 --> 00:22:15,713 and say they´re exploring every avenue. 437 00:22:17,608 --> 00:22:21,338 While investigating, a neighbor eventually did come forward 438 00:22:21,341 --> 00:22:25,951 to tell us some information about what he´s seen 439 00:22:25,946 --> 00:22:29,346 that Doug DeBruin and his girlfriend, Julie, 440 00:22:29,349 --> 00:22:33,049 were moving items that he thought were antiques 441 00:22:33,053 --> 00:22:38,363 out of the house into a cargo-type moving van. 442 00:22:40,090 --> 00:22:42,690 And he thought that was kind of suspicious. 443 00:22:45,796 --> 00:22:47,036 May: When my father first went missing, 444 00:22:47,037 --> 00:22:49,767 we knew Moose was living with him. 445 00:22:49,770 --> 00:22:52,740 But in the very beginning, I thought, 446 00:22:52,743 --> 00:22:54,443 "Did they take off somewhere?" 447 00:22:54,444 --> 00:22:55,914 And we all questioned each other, 448 00:22:55,906 --> 00:22:57,646 between my brother and my mom and I, 449 00:22:57,648 --> 00:22:59,648 "Would Moose hurt my father? 450 00:22:59,650 --> 00:23:01,510 Would he be capable of that?" 451 00:23:01,512 --> 00:23:04,762 And we thought, "No, he liked him. Why would he do that?" 452 00:23:06,917 --> 00:23:08,687 Schroeder: When we do an investigation, 453 00:23:08,689 --> 00:23:10,389 we have to ask a lot of questions. 454 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:13,520 We have to figure out where he went, 455 00:23:13,524 --> 00:23:16,934 who he went with, why he went. 456 00:23:16,927 --> 00:23:20,097 And we have to talk to a lot of people to get these answers. 457 00:23:22,132 --> 00:23:26,712 An ordinary person does not just fall off the face of the earth 458 00:23:26,707 --> 00:23:31,137 when he has a past history of being organized, 459 00:23:31,141 --> 00:23:33,941 making contact with family members. 460 00:23:33,944 --> 00:23:36,754 His banks, the ones we talked to, 461 00:23:36,747 --> 00:23:39,887 were -- there was nothing, no activity. 462 00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:42,720 That´s just another one of the pieces we put together. 463 00:23:45,125 --> 00:23:46,995 May: We stayed in town for a little bit. 464 00:23:46,997 --> 00:23:49,597 We tried to drive around, tried to find people that he knew, 465 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,200 went and talked to Gary. 466 00:23:51,201 --> 00:23:54,061 We just were kind of at a loss. 467 00:23:54,064 --> 00:23:55,774 After a few days, 468 00:23:55,766 --> 00:23:58,936 the chief of police in Bellevue, Iowa, called in the DCI. 469 00:23:58,939 --> 00:24:01,709 Our small town of five officers are not gonna be able 470 00:24:01,712 --> 00:24:03,842 to handle a missing-person case. 471 00:24:03,844 --> 00:24:08,124 So we have, within the state, it´s called the DCI, 472 00:24:08,118 --> 00:24:11,578 which stands for Division of Criminal Investigation. 473 00:24:11,582 --> 00:24:19,462 Their main job is to assist other agencies with big cases. 474 00:24:19,459 --> 00:24:24,059 So what they do is they have a special agent assigned. 475 00:24:24,064 --> 00:24:26,544 We told them that Douglas DeBruin 476 00:24:26,537 --> 00:24:28,067 had been staying with him 477 00:24:28,068 --> 00:24:30,138 and I explained the phone call about Julie Miller. 478 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:31,700 I didn´t know who she was. 479 00:24:31,702 --> 00:24:36,152 ♫♫ 480 00:24:36,146 --> 00:24:38,476 The beginning, you´re a mess. You don´t know what to do. 481 00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:40,578 You´re running in all different directions. 482 00:24:40,581 --> 00:24:43,011 You´re talking to many people as you can. 483 00:24:43,013 --> 00:24:45,023 And so we just had to let the story unfold. 484 00:24:45,015 --> 00:24:48,685 It was very hard to leave Iowa and let the police do their job 485 00:24:48,689 --> 00:24:50,159 and take over the investigation 486 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,120 because you want to feel like you´re doing something. 487 00:24:59,630 --> 00:25:03,870 May: After the DCI were involved and we´re waiting for answers, 488 00:25:03,874 --> 00:25:07,514 everything was very surreal. 489 00:25:07,508 --> 00:25:10,178 I remember driving down the road and thinking to myself, 490 00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:12,180 "How can the world keep moving right now 491 00:25:12,182 --> 00:25:15,252 when my life is completely and totally still?" 492 00:25:18,048 --> 00:25:21,188 And then it was months after that 493 00:25:21,191 --> 00:25:23,151 that one of my father´s really good friends 494 00:25:23,153 --> 00:25:24,663 called up my brother and he said, 495 00:25:24,655 --> 00:25:26,195 "You know, I got a flier in the mail 496 00:25:26,196 --> 00:25:29,796 for a place called the Rock Island Auction House." 497 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,930 Schroeder: And he come across this catalogue 498 00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:34,913 that had a bunch of antiques 499 00:25:34,905 --> 00:25:37,905 that was getting sold in Rock Island, Illinois. 500 00:25:37,908 --> 00:25:43,208 And he told Greg´s kids that these got to be Greg´s stuff. 501 00:25:43,213 --> 00:25:46,653 There´s no way there´s two separate items like this, 502 00:25:46,647 --> 00:25:48,177 collections that Greg has. 503 00:25:48,178 --> 00:25:51,618 Somebody else has the same collection. 504 00:25:51,622 --> 00:25:54,562 May: The DCI and the chief of police drove over 505 00:25:54,555 --> 00:25:56,055 to the Rock Island Auction House 506 00:25:56,056 --> 00:25:59,086 to inquire about how they got this auction. 507 00:25:59,089 --> 00:26:03,759 So the investigation took us up to a woman called Mary Klar 508 00:26:03,764 --> 00:26:07,744 that put these items on the auction. 509 00:26:07,738 --> 00:26:13,798 Well, turns out Mary Klar was actually Julie Miller´s mother. 510 00:26:13,804 --> 00:26:16,114 So what a coincidence that was. 511 00:26:16,106 --> 00:26:19,876 Julie is the girlfriend of Douglas DeBruin. 512 00:26:22,252 --> 00:26:27,362 While interviewing Mary Klar, we found out that Julie and Doug 513 00:26:27,357 --> 00:26:32,017 were in some type of a trailer down in Flagstaff, Arizona. 514 00:26:32,022 --> 00:26:37,372 ♫♫ 515 00:26:37,367 --> 00:26:42,867 ♫♫ 516 00:26:42,873 --> 00:26:46,043 When the investigators went inside the trailer, 517 00:26:46,036 --> 00:26:50,006 we found a lot of Greg May´s possessions. 518 00:26:53,644 --> 00:26:57,694 So the question is, "What are they doing here? 519 00:26:58,949 --> 00:27:00,889 How did they get here? 520 00:27:00,891 --> 00:27:03,021 What are they gonna do with them? 521 00:27:03,023 --> 00:27:05,633 And where is Greg at?" 522 00:27:05,626 --> 00:27:08,926 There were photos of them found on the truck 523 00:27:08,929 --> 00:27:12,029 having the time of their lives. 524 00:27:12,032 --> 00:27:15,272 Laughing, carrying on, 525 00:27:15,265 --> 00:27:18,165 little fugitives on the run. 526 00:27:18,168 --> 00:27:20,838 God knows what was going through their head. 527 00:27:23,914 --> 00:27:25,184 Every time I looked at him, 528 00:27:25,175 --> 00:27:28,145 he always had that mean look on him. 529 00:27:28,148 --> 00:27:31,378 You know, I -- I was kind of half scared of him, 530 00:27:31,381 --> 00:27:34,281 you know, mean-looking, you know. 531 00:27:34,284 --> 00:27:38,064 But then Greg told me one time that he never trusted Julie. 532 00:27:38,058 --> 00:27:40,958 And I told him, I said, "I never trusted Moose either." 533 00:27:40,961 --> 00:27:42,431 And he said, "Why?" 534 00:27:42,432 --> 00:27:44,772 And I said, "I don´t know. I just don´t trust him." 535 00:27:44,765 --> 00:27:47,065 My name is John Kies, 536 00:27:47,067 --> 00:27:50,837 and I was the county attorney in Jackson County. 537 00:27:50,841 --> 00:27:53,901 The chief of police in Bellevue at the time 538 00:27:53,904 --> 00:27:55,684 called me up early one morning 539 00:27:55,676 --> 00:28:01,046 and he said, "John, it´s probably nothing, but..." 540 00:28:01,051 --> 00:28:03,951 And then he began to tell me about a missing person -- 541 00:28:03,954 --> 00:28:05,694 Gregory May. 542 00:28:05,686 --> 00:28:07,956 He wasn´t the kind of person to call me about nothing. 543 00:28:07,958 --> 00:28:11,158 So I knew something was going on. 544 00:28:11,161 --> 00:28:17,201 ♫♫ 545 00:28:17,197 --> 00:28:19,027 Douglas DeBruin and Julie Miller denied 546 00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:21,369 they had anything to do with the theft 547 00:28:21,371 --> 00:28:24,201 of the Civil War collection or the murder of Gregory May. 548 00:28:24,204 --> 00:28:26,144 They simply denied it all. 549 00:28:26,136 --> 00:28:30,236 They just tried to basically play dumb. 550 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,340 Kies: When investigators began to go through the van 551 00:28:32,342 --> 00:28:36,152 and separate out the different items of evidence, 552 00:28:36,146 --> 00:28:40,116 one of the things they located was a large jacket, 553 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,790 and it was believed that that jacket 554 00:28:41,792 --> 00:28:43,852 belonged to Douglas DeBruin. 555 00:28:43,854 --> 00:28:49,464 So the jacket was taken to the DCI Laboratory for analysis. 556 00:28:49,459 --> 00:28:52,299 There was a stain found on the cup. 557 00:28:52,302 --> 00:28:54,132 May: There was a green jacket that belonged to Moose 558 00:28:54,134 --> 00:28:55,874 and there was a spot of blood on there. 559 00:28:55,866 --> 00:28:59,006 So they did a reverse DNA search with my brother and I, 560 00:28:59,009 --> 00:29:00,809 where they swabbed our cheeks 561 00:29:00,811 --> 00:29:04,011 and they sort of do the DNA in reverse from the children 562 00:29:04,014 --> 00:29:07,084 to the parent to see if it belonged to him. 563 00:29:07,077 --> 00:29:09,277 And through DNA analysis, 564 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,849 the blood was determined to be Gregory May´s. 565 00:29:12,853 --> 00:29:14,933 May: Once, you know, when you´re waiting for somebody 566 00:29:14,925 --> 00:29:16,355 who´s been missing for a long time, 567 00:29:16,356 --> 00:29:19,286 you live on hope. You live on hope and fear. 568 00:29:19,289 --> 00:29:21,889 And then once you finally get that confirmation 569 00:29:21,892 --> 00:29:23,762 that all hope is lost, 570 00:29:23,764 --> 00:29:27,274 then that´s when you really start the steps of the grief. 571 00:29:27,267 --> 00:29:31,137 I couldn´t even say the word "murder" for months at a time. 572 00:29:31,141 --> 00:29:33,941 I literally could not say the word "murder." 573 00:29:35,846 --> 00:29:40,206 We believe that they´ve murdered Gregory May. 574 00:29:40,210 --> 00:29:43,380 But there are just so many places to hide a body. 575 00:29:43,383 --> 00:29:45,423 Where do you begin to look? 576 00:29:51,091 --> 00:29:53,861 Leach: I had sent it into the Doe Network -- 577 00:29:53,864 --> 00:29:55,334 the man in Chicago 578 00:29:55,325 --> 00:29:59,195 I thought the skull in the bucket belonged to. 579 00:29:59,199 --> 00:30:03,329 Ellen´s original match was to a missing mobster in Chicago. 580 00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:06,183 So it seemed like a good opportunity. 581 00:30:06,176 --> 00:30:09,476 All the hallmarks of a mob hit -- a dismembered head 582 00:30:09,479 --> 00:30:11,309 in concrete in a bucket. 583 00:30:11,311 --> 00:30:13,541 You know, it looked like that was gonna be 584 00:30:13,544 --> 00:30:15,494 a real possibility, but it wasn´t. 585 00:30:17,487 --> 00:30:19,887 Leach: So they come back and say, 586 00:30:19,890 --> 00:30:23,020 "We don´t like that match. It´s not a good match." 587 00:30:23,023 --> 00:30:24,533 It´s disheartening. 588 00:30:24,525 --> 00:30:27,895 It makes you want to back away from it for a while. 589 00:30:27,898 --> 00:30:29,558 But then you think, 590 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,960 "No, I´m gonna beat this" and you jump in it with two feet. 591 00:30:33,964 --> 00:30:36,544 She´s precise to the point you don´t want to be wrong. 592 00:30:36,537 --> 00:30:40,037 You don´t want to cause anyone unnecessary emotion 593 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,550 or stress or whatever, and she´ll research it to death. 594 00:30:44,545 --> 00:30:48,045 She´ll archive newspapers for hours 595 00:30:48,048 --> 00:30:50,018 hunting stories or hunting clues 596 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:52,250 or something to tie cases together. 597 00:30:55,455 --> 00:30:59,125 Leach: On weekends, we go to the casino. 598 00:30:59,129 --> 00:31:02,429 We have a little fun. 599 00:31:02,432 --> 00:31:06,242 It just reminds you that things are alive. 600 00:31:08,168 --> 00:31:10,338 With all the sadness going on, 601 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:12,270 there´s still life out there. 602 00:31:12,272 --> 00:31:16,052 There´s still happiness out there. 603 00:31:16,046 --> 00:31:19,276 Being at the casino reminds me that you never know 604 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,549 when your luck is going to come in. 605 00:31:22,553 --> 00:31:24,483 A few months had passed on. 606 00:31:24,484 --> 00:31:26,424 I´m still working the case, 607 00:31:26,416 --> 00:31:29,556 so I go to Doe Network and they have an update. 608 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,660 They have a reconstruction of the head. 609 00:31:35,265 --> 00:31:37,425 About a year after Kearney police actually submitted 610 00:31:37,427 --> 00:31:40,427 the case to Doe Network, they didn´t have any leads. 611 00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:43,430 So they commissioned Frank Bender, a forensic artist, 612 00:31:43,433 --> 00:31:45,513 to actually re-create the skull 613 00:31:45,506 --> 00:31:47,406 so that we´d have a face of the victim. 614 00:31:47,407 --> 00:31:49,607 So it wasn´t just a description, it was a face. 615 00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:52,080 And that´s really important in those John and Jane Doe cases. 616 00:31:52,082 --> 00:31:53,542 You have to have a visual. 617 00:31:53,544 --> 00:31:55,394 Reporter: Today, they unveiled 618 00:31:55,385 --> 00:31:57,085 this reconstruction of the victim created by Frank Bender, 619 00:31:57,087 --> 00:31:59,287 the same artist who sculpted a bust of Precious Doe 620 00:31:59,289 --> 00:32:00,949 for Kansas City, Missouri, police. 621 00:32:00,951 --> 00:32:02,451 Bender says it took him two and a half months 622 00:32:02,452 --> 00:32:04,152 to complete the reconstruction. 623 00:32:04,154 --> 00:32:07,434 The only features that I had was the skull itself, 624 00:32:07,427 --> 00:32:10,257 and there was plenty of information there. 625 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:12,330 It was a very good skull. 626 00:32:15,405 --> 00:32:19,065 There is often so little opportunity to create evidence. 627 00:32:19,069 --> 00:32:21,669 It´s the only opportunity to actually show 628 00:32:21,672 --> 00:32:25,522 what a person might have looked like. 629 00:32:25,516 --> 00:32:28,616 Kies: So when Julie Miller and Douglas DeBruin are arrested, 630 00:32:28,619 --> 00:32:30,949 we knew that their story was gonna be that Gregory May 631 00:32:30,951 --> 00:32:32,481 had given them the Civil War collection. 632 00:32:32,482 --> 00:32:35,162 That was gonna be their defense, essentially. 633 00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:39,255 They were gonna argue, one, Gregory May´s still alive. 634 00:32:39,259 --> 00:32:41,429 And how can you prove that he´s dead? 635 00:32:41,431 --> 00:32:44,601 And, two, that he gave us his Civil War collection 636 00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:46,495 for whatever reason. 637 00:32:46,496 --> 00:32:49,336 And the third argument we were anticipating was, 638 00:32:49,339 --> 00:32:52,499 even if you can convince the jury that Gregory May´s dead, 639 00:32:52,503 --> 00:32:55,513 how in the world are you convince them he was murdered? 640 00:32:55,506 --> 00:33:00,206 ♫♫ 641 00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:04,720 ♫♫ 642 00:33:04,715 --> 00:33:07,485 And we had Gregory May´s Civil War collection. 643 00:33:07,487 --> 00:33:10,757 So we have a motive and we have Douglas DeBruin, 644 00:33:10,761 --> 00:33:13,761 a man on federal release with a criminal record. 645 00:33:13,764 --> 00:33:17,004 We weren´t pressured to file murder charges against him. 646 00:33:16,997 --> 00:33:20,127 He was out of the public. He was in a safe place. 647 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:24,030 Julie Miller´s case for first-degree theft was coming up 648 00:33:24,034 --> 00:33:26,344 as the investigation into the disappearance of Gregory May 649 00:33:26,336 --> 00:33:28,276 was still going on. 650 00:33:32,412 --> 00:33:36,452 Prosecuting a murder case without a body sets you back 651 00:33:36,446 --> 00:33:39,416 two places from where you normally start. 652 00:33:39,419 --> 00:33:42,449 Normally, you start being able to show the jury 653 00:33:42,452 --> 00:33:44,152 there was a death 654 00:33:44,154 --> 00:33:47,064 and the circumstances indicate there was a murder. 655 00:33:47,057 --> 00:33:50,157 Here, we had to start by convincing the jury 656 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,100 that there was a death in the first place without a body 657 00:33:54,104 --> 00:33:55,744 and that the death was wrongful. 658 00:33:55,736 --> 00:33:59,136 And then we had to begin with where you normally start -- 659 00:33:59,139 --> 00:34:03,509 trying to prove that Douglas DeBruin was the murderer. 660 00:34:05,415 --> 00:34:06,815 One of our strategies 661 00:34:06,817 --> 00:34:09,477 other than just hoping that remains show up, 662 00:34:09,479 --> 00:34:13,519 was to work on Douglas DeBruin and Julie Miller. 663 00:34:13,524 --> 00:34:15,764 May: Before the trial, we talked to the prosecutor. 664 00:34:15,756 --> 00:34:18,656 They said, "Well, they´re both gonna deny it. 665 00:34:18,659 --> 00:34:22,329 So we´re gonna give her immunity for her testimony." 666 00:34:22,332 --> 00:34:24,772 They had to make a deal with the devil. 667 00:34:24,765 --> 00:34:29,265 So they make a deal with her, which is a good and bad thing. 668 00:34:29,269 --> 00:34:31,699 The good news is it made our case stronger 669 00:34:31,702 --> 00:34:36,152 because it´s very difficult to prosecute a murder case 670 00:34:36,146 --> 00:34:37,346 without a body. 671 00:34:37,347 --> 00:34:39,277 But the bad news is now Julie, 672 00:34:39,279 --> 00:34:42,649 who was actually part of this crime, 673 00:34:42,653 --> 00:34:47,163 is not gonna get a severe punishment. 674 00:34:47,157 --> 00:34:50,257 Kies: She admitted that Douglas DeBruin 675 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:52,090 had killed Gregory May. 676 00:34:54,665 --> 00:34:57,495 She said it was strangulation. 677 00:34:57,497 --> 00:35:00,797 She admitted being present when it happened. 678 00:35:00,801 --> 00:35:02,871 And she admitted going with DeBruin 679 00:35:02,873 --> 00:35:05,443 to dispose of the remains. 680 00:35:05,435 --> 00:35:09,775 ♫♫ 681 00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:14,410 She told us that Gregory May´s remains had been dumped 682 00:35:14,414 --> 00:35:17,524 off a bridge into the Mississippi River. 683 00:35:17,518 --> 00:35:20,648 We never believed that was true. 684 00:35:20,651 --> 00:35:24,601 The records of the ice thickness in that year 685 00:35:24,595 --> 00:35:29,225 were easy to obtain, and we knew that was impossible. 686 00:35:29,229 --> 00:35:31,859 Of course, nothing was found. 687 00:35:31,862 --> 00:35:34,812 And we made the decision to issue the arrest warrant 688 00:35:34,805 --> 00:35:38,335 for the murder to get the case ready for trial. 689 00:35:38,338 --> 00:35:42,808 We just didn´t think it was gonna get any better. 690 00:35:42,813 --> 00:35:45,823 Buman: Now that I think back on it, 691 00:35:45,816 --> 00:35:48,516 I think that night when I was over there, 692 00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:51,279 that´s the night that they killed Greg. 693 00:35:51,281 --> 00:35:54,351 You know, having a friend that many years, you know, 694 00:35:54,354 --> 00:35:56,294 why would you kill somebody like that? 695 00:35:58,629 --> 00:36:01,429 May: My father was such a generous man. 696 00:36:01,431 --> 00:36:05,401 For somebody who he took under his wing, 697 00:36:05,395 --> 00:36:06,895 he gave him a friendship 698 00:36:06,897 --> 00:36:10,167 and this is the way he repays him. 699 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,740 It´s just pure evil. 700 00:36:15,445 --> 00:36:16,745 Kies: We were absolutely determined 701 00:36:16,747 --> 00:36:19,947 to prosecute the strongest case we had. 702 00:36:19,950 --> 00:36:23,380 We´re gonna present what we have in front of a jury. 703 00:36:23,383 --> 00:36:24,823 May: In the state of Iowa, 704 00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:26,815 they had never had a conviction without remains. 705 00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:30,717 I mean, this was gonna be unprecedented for that area. 706 00:36:30,721 --> 00:36:33,191 But there´s always that greatest fear. 707 00:36:33,193 --> 00:36:35,573 We don´t have everything we need. 708 00:36:35,566 --> 00:36:41,966 ♫♫ 709 00:36:41,972 --> 00:36:44,472 Leach: I was looking at the face 710 00:36:44,474 --> 00:36:48,984 and I had seen it before, but I couldn´t remember where. 711 00:36:48,979 --> 00:36:52,439 So I had to go through all the sights again, 712 00:36:52,442 --> 00:36:56,652 probably 150 sites to try to find out 713 00:36:56,647 --> 00:37:00,617 where I had seen this man before. 714 00:37:00,621 --> 00:37:02,351 So in the world today, we are familiar 715 00:37:02,352 --> 00:37:04,452 with human facial recognition. 716 00:37:04,454 --> 00:37:06,004 The airports do it, everything. 717 00:37:05,996 --> 00:37:08,456 Ellen is a human representative of that. 718 00:37:08,458 --> 00:37:09,858 She had to use memory 719 00:37:09,860 --> 00:37:12,360 to go back through things that she had searched. 720 00:37:12,362 --> 00:37:14,232 There was no way of indexing it. 721 00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:16,644 She was literally just going back through databases 722 00:37:16,637 --> 00:37:18,237 that she had looked at before 723 00:37:18,238 --> 00:37:20,468 to try to find the image that she recalled. 724 00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:28,950 ♫♫ 725 00:37:28,949 --> 00:37:34,249 Leach: I came across the Iowa Missing Person Clearinghouse, 726 00:37:34,254 --> 00:37:37,564 and that´s where I found the picture of Greg May. 727 00:37:37,558 --> 00:37:41,628 My gut feeling told me that this was the man. 728 00:37:41,632 --> 00:37:43,932 This was the John Doe. 729 00:37:45,866 --> 00:37:49,796 I went through and I looked at the photos 730 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,500 and compared different features, 731 00:37:52,503 --> 00:37:56,513 and I was sure this had to be the skull. 732 00:37:58,849 --> 00:38:01,009 The picture of Greg May -- 733 00:38:01,011 --> 00:38:03,581 they had his age. 734 00:38:03,584 --> 00:38:06,024 They showed him with a full head of hair. 735 00:38:06,016 --> 00:38:08,486 Good-looking man. 736 00:38:08,488 --> 00:38:10,558 They had his height and his weight. 737 00:38:10,561 --> 00:38:12,921 I was positive it was him. 738 00:38:12,923 --> 00:38:15,573 She was asking me to look at it and see what I thought. 739 00:38:15,566 --> 00:38:19,296 And due to the fact that Kearney, Missouri, 740 00:38:19,299 --> 00:38:21,569 was Jesse James´ hometown, Civil War era, 741 00:38:21,572 --> 00:38:24,302 and him being a Civil War collector, 742 00:38:24,304 --> 00:38:27,684 I -- I couldn´t do anything but agree with her. 743 00:38:27,678 --> 00:38:32,578 I immediately wrote the area director 744 00:38:32,583 --> 00:38:34,893 for Iowa for the Doe Network, 745 00:38:34,885 --> 00:38:38,985 and I put in the possible match with Greg May. 746 00:38:40,450 --> 00:38:44,020 And I pushed send... 747 00:38:44,024 --> 00:38:45,764 and I waited. 748 00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,399 Kies: January of 2005. 749 00:38:51,401 --> 00:38:54,611 Douglas DeBruin´s defense team asked for a delay. 750 00:38:54,605 --> 00:38:56,735 They argued that with the new evidence that we had, 751 00:38:56,737 --> 00:38:58,537 Julie Miller´s testimony, 752 00:38:58,539 --> 00:39:02,639 they needed time to come up and process the new information. 753 00:39:02,643 --> 00:39:05,923 At the time, I was so vexed. 754 00:39:05,916 --> 00:39:09,976 It turned out to be pretty fortunate for us as well. 755 00:39:09,980 --> 00:39:18,390 ♫♫ 756 00:39:18,388 --> 00:39:20,958 Leach: I was so sure about Greg May. 757 00:39:20,961 --> 00:39:24,091 I had done all the work on him. 758 00:39:24,094 --> 00:39:27,844 And then I just had to lose control of the case 759 00:39:27,838 --> 00:39:29,998 and hand over to Doe Network. 760 00:39:31,842 --> 00:39:35,052 She was almost feeling helpless because red tape or whatever 761 00:39:35,045 --> 00:39:38,845 was too long to satisfy her. 762 00:39:41,051 --> 00:39:44,891 Finally, in March 2005, three months after I had made 763 00:39:44,885 --> 00:39:48,685 the submission, the area director from Iowa 764 00:39:48,689 --> 00:39:51,159 got back with me. 765 00:39:51,161 --> 00:39:55,701 She told me it was a positive match, 766 00:39:55,696 --> 00:39:59,396 and I just kind of melted. 767 00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:01,929 That was my first match. 768 00:40:01,932 --> 00:40:07,412 So it was a happy moment and a sad moment. 769 00:40:07,407 --> 00:40:08,737 And when she got that match, 770 00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:10,539 it vindicated what she´d been doing. 771 00:40:10,541 --> 00:40:12,711 So she was happy. 772 00:40:12,713 --> 00:40:16,753 Leach: I had finally done it. I had I.D.´d him. 773 00:40:16,747 --> 00:40:23,487 ♫♫ 774 00:40:23,493 --> 00:40:26,533 We had a skull. 775 00:40:26,527 --> 00:40:30,897 So we could do a dental match with a local Bellevue dentist 776 00:40:30,901 --> 00:40:32,701 that Gregory May had gone to. 777 00:40:32,703 --> 00:40:33,963 He had all the records. 778 00:40:33,964 --> 00:40:38,444 So we didn´t have other parts of the body, 779 00:40:38,438 --> 00:40:40,838 but we had the one piece 780 00:40:40,841 --> 00:40:43,571 that absolutely identified Gregory May beyond a doubt. 781 00:40:46,116 --> 00:40:49,576 Now we have this incredible new piece of evidence. 782 00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:52,050 We could not only prove scientifically 783 00:40:52,052 --> 00:40:54,152 that Gregory May was dead, 784 00:40:54,154 --> 00:40:58,464 but the fact that his head was found in a bucket 785 00:40:58,458 --> 00:41:01,928 means that death was wrongful. 786 00:41:01,932 --> 00:41:06,142 So this was absolutely enormous. This was absolutely huge. 787 00:41:06,136 --> 00:41:11,066 It was only later that I learned about how it all came together. 788 00:41:11,071 --> 00:41:14,611 And this screeched in at the last possible minute. 789 00:41:14,605 --> 00:41:16,245 We had no idea. 790 00:41:16,246 --> 00:41:18,906 So often, cyber sleuths are running a race against time 791 00:41:18,909 --> 00:41:20,609 that we don´t even know about. 792 00:41:27,187 --> 00:41:29,857 Kies: The trial of Douglas DeBruin 793 00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:32,020 lasted almost exactly two weeks, 794 00:41:32,022 --> 00:41:34,572 and the jury came back with a verdict of guilty 795 00:41:34,565 --> 00:41:37,095 to first-degree murder as charged 796 00:41:37,097 --> 00:41:40,497 on April 20th of 2005. 797 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,130 He showed absolutely no remorse. 798 00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:46,083 Julie Miller -- she´d been lying to the police for so long. 799 00:41:46,076 --> 00:41:47,806 And she first told them that, 800 00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:49,778 "Oh, maybe he´s in the river.´ My father´s the river. 801 00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:52,240 "Maybe he´s here, maybe he´s there." 802 00:41:52,242 --> 00:41:54,082 The judge threw the book at her for perjury 803 00:41:54,084 --> 00:41:56,294 and gave her the maximum of five years, 804 00:41:56,286 --> 00:41:57,986 which honestly, really wasn´t enough 805 00:41:57,988 --> 00:41:59,988 for a cold-blooded murder. 806 00:41:59,990 --> 00:42:06,160 ♫♫ 807 00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:08,556 You know, now the trial is over, you know, all we can do 808 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,929 is live the life that he didn´t get to. 809 00:42:10,931 --> 00:42:12,731 And so I try not to think about them. 810 00:42:12,733 --> 00:42:17,043 I try not to give them any of my thoughts or day or time. 811 00:42:17,037 --> 00:42:19,167 What Ellen did was everything. 812 00:42:19,169 --> 00:42:22,209 Without her, I don´t know where we would have been. 813 00:42:22,212 --> 00:42:26,322 I didn´t even know people did that at the time. 814 00:42:26,316 --> 00:42:30,076 Leach: I was happy because he finally had his name back, 815 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,180 but I was sad for the family. 816 00:42:33,183 --> 00:42:36,633 They had to know what happened to their daddy. 817 00:42:36,627 --> 00:42:39,127 That was a horrific crime. 818 00:42:39,129 --> 00:42:43,129 But I provided them with a sense of closure. 819 00:42:43,133 --> 00:42:46,973 That was a big weight lifted off my chest. 820 00:42:46,967 --> 00:42:48,337 Some people never get those answers, 821 00:42:48,338 --> 00:42:51,638 and those are the people I really feel sorry for. 822 00:42:51,642 --> 00:42:54,782 I can´t imagine going years without ever knowing. 823 00:42:54,775 --> 00:42:56,945 Buman: One thing I miss about Greg is, 824 00:42:56,947 --> 00:42:58,607 you know, the good times we used to have, 825 00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:01,679 you know, go out -- go out and have a few drinks 826 00:43:01,682 --> 00:43:03,012 and talk and laugh 827 00:43:03,013 --> 00:43:05,363 and, you know, just have a good time. 828 00:43:05,355 --> 00:43:07,715 I always thought we got along really good. 829 00:43:07,718 --> 00:43:09,088 I was looking forward 830 00:43:09,089 --> 00:43:11,859 to spending the rest of my life with Greg. 831 00:43:14,294 --> 00:43:17,104 Schroeder: Little Bellevue, Iowa. 832 00:43:17,097 --> 00:43:18,927 Shocking. 833 00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:21,029 Why is it happening here? 834 00:43:22,973 --> 00:43:25,843 I´ve never, in 30 plus years, 835 00:43:25,836 --> 00:43:28,736 never come across something like this. 836 00:43:28,739 --> 00:43:32,679 And I hope the good Lord never lets me do that again. 837 00:43:32,683 --> 00:43:37,153 May: Here comes along an amateur sleuth on her time off, 838 00:43:37,147 --> 00:43:40,187 not getting paid for it, just wanting to help. 839 00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:44,020 She pieces together the key that held this case -- 840 00:43:44,024 --> 00:43:46,264 the key that made this case. 841 00:43:46,256 --> 00:43:50,156 And got justice for mine and my family. 842 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,800 Ellen Leach is one of the heroines of the case, 843 00:43:52,803 --> 00:43:55,213 one of the unsung heroines, really, 844 00:43:55,205 --> 00:43:57,035 working behind the scenes. 845 00:43:58,909 --> 00:44:03,909 This is a letter I got from John Kies. 846 00:44:03,914 --> 00:44:06,884 It´s the Jackson County attorney. 847 00:44:06,877 --> 00:44:12,077 It starts out, "Dear Ellen, I want to personally thank you 848 00:44:12,082 --> 00:44:16,262 for your efforts to match the remains of Gregory May 849 00:44:16,256 --> 00:44:19,886 in the murder investigation of Douglas DeBruin." 850 00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:22,390 It thanked me and the other volunteers 851 00:44:22,392 --> 00:44:26,302 that have tried to solve these cases. 852 00:44:26,296 --> 00:44:28,036 That means a lot. 853 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,670 She´s blossomed right into what she is. 854 00:44:33,674 --> 00:44:36,414 Her success has bred confidence. 855 00:44:36,406 --> 00:44:39,146 But I can´t say I´ve got a hand in any of it. 856 00:44:39,149 --> 00:44:41,079 I just try to keep her happy. 857 00:44:44,084 --> 00:44:46,224 Leach: It could be anybody out there. 858 00:44:46,216 --> 00:44:49,356 Anybody could do this if they put their time 859 00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:52,159 and energy and heart into it. 860 00:44:53,764 --> 00:44:56,304 Anybody could find somebody. 861 00:44:58,028 --> 00:45:05,178 ♫♫ 862 00:45:05,175 --> 00:45:12,335 ♫♫ 863 00:45:12,342 --> 00:45:19,492 ♫♫ 864 00:45:19,489 --> 00:45:26,859 ♫♫ 865 00:45:26,857 --> 00:45:33,997 ♫♫ 866 00:45:34,004 --> 00:45:41,174 ♫♫ 65177

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