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He is, without a doubt,
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one of the greatest
contemporary artists alive today.
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And he gives life to garbage.
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He abuses strange materials.
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And he has attracted huge crowds
to his exhibitions.
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Vik Muniz, come on down!
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When I said he's one of
the greatest artists alive,
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I'm not exaggerating.
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I really believe that,
and everyone agrees.
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There is just no doubt about it.
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Can you tell us how you came
to use materials from the garbage?
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Once I was driving in Sao Paulo...
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I see a fight.
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I stop to break the fight apart.
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When I am going
back to my car...
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I got shot by one of the guys who
Thought was the guy fighting with him.
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Sorry I have to do this.
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Luckily he was very rich...
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and he gave me some money.
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And that's
why I bought the ticket...
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to come to America in 1983...
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and that's why
I am talking to you today.
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Because I got shot in the leg.
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Oh my God, this is so amazing!
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I really feel weird.
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This is very very strange.
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I used to push these carts here.
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Now, they have these things
for the carts.
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In my time, they had no thing
which can return your cart.
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One of my jobs was to clean up...
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after the dumpster.
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From the meat dumpsters.
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I would spend the whole day...
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shoveling
the worst possible matter...
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organic matter left by the truck.
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Vik Muniz incorporates
everyday...
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objects into his
photographic process...
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to create witty, bold...
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and often deceiving images.
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Often working in series...
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the New York-based artist makes
pictures from unlikely materials...
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like dirt, Diamonds, sugar,
wire, string, chocolate, peanut...
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and pigment.
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Sugar Children was probably
the most important work...
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of my career.
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I think this is the first
time that I addressed...
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the fact of material
as something that exists...
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in the world
with its own importance.
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These are children from
the Caribbean island, of St. Kitts.
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They are sons and daughters
of plantation workers.
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I would imagine the progression from
these beautiful amazing children...
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to a grown,
that would be just as happy...
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because it was paradise.
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But their parents were very sad,
tired, weary people...
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who worked 16 hour
shifts in the sugar fields.
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I kept thinking about what
was missing in the transition...
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from a childhood like that
to being very sad grownups.
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And it was sugar.
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The sweetness was taken
from those children.
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When I came back to New York
I started drawing their faces with sugar...
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I realized that I could make
volumes with that.
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It was quite beautiful.
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I shot these with a camera.
People from the New York Times...
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wrote a review about it and later,
the Museum of Modern Art...
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invited me to be part
of the new photography show.
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So it changed my career entirely...
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the work that I did
with these children.
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Right now,
I am this point in my career...
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that I am trying to step
a little bit away...
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from the realm of fine art.
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Because I think
that it is a very exclusive...
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very restrictive place to be.
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What I really want
to do is to be able to change...
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the lives of a group of people...
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with the dame materials
that they deal with every day.
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And not just any material.
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The idea I have
for my next series...
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is to work with garbage.
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When you talk
about transformation...
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this being the stuff of art...
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transforming material and ideas...
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I don't know.
This is the beginning of an idea...
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I just have the material.
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And I have to go after an image.
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Hey Fabio.
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So did you have a chance
to look at that garbage thing?
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YES...
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check the link I just sent you.
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On YouTube there is a video that was
shot at this place called Gramacho.
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Gramacho Gardens
it's the biggest landfill in Rio.
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They receive the trash
from all the Rio area.
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What are the dangers
of working in a place like this?
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First of all, the place
is surrounded by favelas...
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owned by the drug traffic.
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And I think the stability
of the people themselves...
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they are all
excluded from society.
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Some stay there overnight...
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or the whole week.
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It's gonna be hard.
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So do you think it is too hard?
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No, because it would be much harder
to think we are not able...
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to change the life of these people.
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And I think we are.
So I think it? worth a try.
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My experience with mixing art...
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with social projects...
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is that is the main thing...
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is taking people away even
if it is for two minutes...
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away from where they are.
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And showing them another world...
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another place.
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Even it's just a place from where
they can look at where they are...
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You know it just
changes everything.
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I want this to be
an experience of how art...
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can change people...
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but also...
Can it change people?
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Can this be done?
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And what would be
the effects of this?
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This is where I am going to spend
the next two years of my life.
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And your going to make
drawings out of the garbage?
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And your going to employ
the people that live there?
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And work there?
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How is it going to be
the whole health issue...
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if you work with them?
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It is not exactly safe
to do what they do.
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They don't question it,
because they feed from there.
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Yeah, but we do.
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It's hard to make those assumptions
from looking at Google Earth.
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We have to go there
and see what they really need.
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And you are going
to create everything?
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I want also...
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the iconography to develop
from my interaction with them.
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See what is important to them.
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What would they like
to make an image big?
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What would they like to show?
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Maybe it will end up
just being portraits.
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But do you think people
they are open to work like this?
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I have no idea.
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It's difficult.
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These are the roughest people
you can think of, all drug addicts.
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It's like the end of the line.
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Check out the geography
of this thing.
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This is the end of the line...
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This is where everything
that is not good goes.
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Including the people.
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We are working with the type
of individuals that...
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are in Brazilian society,
not different than garbage itself.
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The most poisonous thing in Brazilian
culture and society, is classicism.
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It's horrible
how people really believe...
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and I am talking
about educated people...
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They really believe they
are better than other people.
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You see?
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It's all recycling
industry around here.
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People all dealing with garbage.
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Every single lot
is filled with garbage.
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And you see people
are carrying garbage?
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It's like a garbage land.
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People look at us in a funny way,
"What the hell are we doing here?"
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I see the hill.
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Oh shit. Oh my God.
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It's like a mountain.
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Where are we exactly?
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Right here.
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Hi Lucio, I'm Vik.
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Pleasure to meet you.
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Hi, how are you doing?
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What's really impressive...
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is that it's the largest
landfill in the world.
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Yes, it's the largest landfill in terms
of the volume of trash received daily.
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The ground underneath here
is all soft.
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The landfill is like a plate of jell-o.
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If you keep adding to
it without careful balancing...
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it will sink here or collapse there.
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You can see what they're
recycling over there.
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And it's separate there.
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Cardboard, paper, plastics, glass,
metal - they collect everything.
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It works like a stock exchange.
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They collect whatever the market
demands at any given time.
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So the recycling wholesalers
tell the pickers what they need...
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and then that's what they collect.
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Yes, that's right.
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They sell the materials
right here at the landfill.
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And then it goes to the recycling
wholesalers, the intermediaries.
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There they process it, removing
the bottle caps and so on.
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From there it goes to another
company for shredding.
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The shredded material
gets sold again...
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to companies who mold it into
car bumpers, buckets, et cetera.
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The pickers take out 200 tons of
materials per day from the landfill.
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- Every day-
-Every day-
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That's equivalent to the garbage
produced by a city of 400,000 people.
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- Amazing!
-Yeah.
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So that's why the pickers are
really important to the landfill...
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because they help
increase its capacity.
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Does all of Rio's trash end up here?
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70% of Rio's trash ends up here...
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and 100% of the closest suburbs.
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So the garbage from
the millionaire's mansion mixes...
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with the garbage
from the poorest favela?
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For sure.
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Dude!
It's a city of garbage!
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It's funny how you get
used to the smell.
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Yeah, I feel right at home!
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- Did you hear that one?
-No.
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That guy said, "They're
filming for Animal Planet!"
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It's not as bad as I thought.
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Here we are in the largest
sanitary facility...
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in the world.
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And the people are talking.
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And I don't see people
depressed or anything.
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They seem very proud
of what they are doing.
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We better get out of here.
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What you see up there...
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it looks very chaotic, but it's
very organized by material...
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and by the company that picks it up
and takes it to the recycling.
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He's the radio.
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Enjoying the game?
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The pickers who sort
through the garbage.
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I learned here
is that they have...
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there own choices of solid
garbage of recyclable garbage.
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Women for instance
they prefer recyclable plastic...
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and soft drink bottles...
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and disposable
plastic because it's lighter.
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This is where the trucks stop?
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Yeah the trucks
give us a ride up here.
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And you each take
your own barrels with you?
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Yeah, we have to buy them.
They cost US$30.
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What's your name?
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Isis Rodrigues Garros.
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- Isis Rodrigo...?
-Rodrigues.
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Let me get a portrait of you two.
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Do it again.
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Thank you.
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-Bye, thank you.
-Bye, Isis.
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How about with my hair down?
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Film her!
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Film her!
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What a show-off!
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- Bye, thanks everyone!
-Bye Isis.
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Let me introduce you to Zumbi.
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His nickname is Zumbi.
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He's on the board of the Association of
Pickers of Jardim Gramacho, ACAMJG.
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We have to think
about the future...
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because I don't want
my son to be a picker.
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Although if he is,
I'd be very proud...
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But I'd rather he be a lawyer,
to represent the pickers, you know?
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Or a doctor to care for the
pickers in the association.
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We're here representing the 3,000
pickers of Jardim Gramacho.
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There is still no recycling
collection in the city.
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You haven't even built anything
and you want to sell off the land.
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The federal government gave us
that land to build a recycling center.
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Thanks to the pickers...
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we built a recycling center
without a single cent from the city.
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And now you are pretending
that we don't exist!
253
00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:04,618
We're going to start a hunger strike
here in front of the mayor's office.
254
00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,237
Hunger strike!? Yeah, right!
255
00:20:13,421 --> 00:20:18,382
I don't know about you guys,
but I'm having lunch at noon!
256
00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:19,374
Is it here?
257
00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:23,503
Excuse me.
258
00:20:23,514 --> 00:20:25,630
Excuse me, Sebastiao?
259
00:20:26,267 --> 00:20:29,760
- I'm Vik, a pleasure to meet you.
-A pleasure, I'm Tiao.
260
00:20:30,187 --> 00:20:32,804
- This is Fabio.
-Hi Fabio, how are you?
261
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:39,061
I'm the Brazilian artist who is
the most - I hate to say this...
262
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:43,656
but who sells and is
the most popular overseas.
263
00:20:45,411 --> 00:20:46,401
Congratulations man!
264
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,278
I grew up very poor,
265
00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:54,581
but now I've reached a point
where I want to give back.
266
00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:58,250
I want to make portraits of
the pickers and then sell them.
267
00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:02,091
All the money from the sale of the
portraits will be given back to you.
268
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:07,089
You'll be able to do some things
to make life easier for the community.
269
00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:11,427
When we started this association,
everyone laughed at us.
270
00:21:11,729 --> 00:21:15,097
"You're crazy,
that's not going anywhere!"
271
00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:19,066
"Association for what? You're
never going to achieve anything."
272
00:21:19,236 --> 00:21:22,479
Everybody criticized us. Even
the pickers, they were the worst.
273
00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:28,193
They said it wouldn't lead anywhere,
that it would never work.
274
00:21:28,329 --> 00:21:30,240
I believed in it.
I said no.
275
00:21:30,247 --> 00:21:36,243
Now I believe when you put your mind
to something, you can achieve it.
276
00:21:36,587 --> 00:21:38,453
Take you, for example.
277
00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:43,254
How many people told you to give up,
that it was never going to happen?
278
00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:47,379
Yeah, starting with my father,
my own father.
279
00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:50,306
He'd say "That's bullshit."
280
00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:51,515
"It's not going to get you anywhere."
281
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:56,013
When we demonstrated they'd say
"That's not going to get you anywhere."
282
00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:58,310
Well we have paved roads
and a sewage system now.
283
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,236
If you went outside right now you'd see
children in the street, picking garbage.
284
00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:07,152
We need to change that.
285
00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:09,366
I was lucky because
I had my grandmother,
286
00:22:09,370 --> 00:22:11,031
and she taught me to
read at a very young age.
287
00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:13,405
Yeah, reading is so important.
288
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:17,333
Some people are crazy and throw
away their books. It's absurd.
289
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,748
One time Zumbi brought me a book
and he almost cried.
290
00:22:20,381 --> 00:22:22,418
He said "Man,
this book is still being sold.
291
00:22:22,424 --> 00:22:25,041
I saw it yesterday
and it's expensive!"
292
00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:27,293
It looks like someone barely
read it and just threw it away.
293
00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:28,635
Wow that's great!
294
00:22:28,764 --> 00:22:31,347
Yeah it's great that Zumbi picks them
out of the trash and brings them here!
295
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:37,016
The other pickers just
tear up books and recycle them.
296
00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:43,359
But Zumbi picks out the good books,
and brings them here for us to read.
297
00:22:51,287 --> 00:22:53,574
I collect 'arquivo'
meaning books, folders.
298
00:22:53,581 --> 00:22:55,071
Paper.
299
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:56,530
We have thousands of books...
300
00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,658
because they're dumped
in the landfill all the time.
301
00:23:02,047 --> 00:23:07,087
I have a plan to make a community
library in my space.
302
00:23:07,678 --> 00:23:13,720
Up until now, I've been responsible
for bringing books to the association.
303
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,305
I've read a few books -
The Da Vinci Code, The Art of War.
304
00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:22,439
And I give a lot of books to Tiao.
305
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,735
Shit! Man!
306
00:24:26,757 --> 00:24:29,044
It's good to fly over...
307
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:31,046
so we can see
what we are up against.
308
00:24:32,763 --> 00:24:35,175
And it's like this all over.
309
00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:38,515
This is by far
the worst I have seen.
310
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:40,635
It looks like they
were completely left.
311
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:43,558
And the day after
we left there...
312
00:24:43,774 --> 00:24:45,685
in the afternoon
they found a body there.
313
00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:47,775
They can just stick a body there...
314
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:51,483
And it's going to be under
the garbage in 12 hours.
315
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:56,659
And you become
a source of methane gas.
316
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:01,785
I already see just as a beginning.
317
00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:05,410
I see 3 characters:
Tiao, Zumbi, Isis.
318
00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:06,786
I think we can start...
319
00:25:07,047 --> 00:25:09,664
with the people we have
already made some contact with.
320
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:12,546
I think it is the first time I saw...
321
00:25:13,053 --> 00:25:14,794
something that you are doing...
322
00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:18,681
where it looks better
when you are close.
323
00:25:18,684 --> 00:25:20,470
From above...
324
00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:23,678
you don't have any
of the human factor.
325
00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:27,565
Which so far is the best part
of what we encountered there?
326
00:25:27,568 --> 00:25:28,228
YES.
327
00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:30,567
The human factor there
is beautiful really.
328
00:25:30,571 --> 00:25:35,361
From afar there is not the smiles,
the people joking.
329
00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:35,690
There was none of that.
330
00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:37,567
They were just like little ants...
331
00:25:38,579 --> 00:25:40,536
doing what they do every day.
332
00:26:14,156 --> 00:26:15,146
What?
333
00:26:16,283 --> 00:26:16,647
Hein?
334
00:26:16,742 --> 00:26:18,278
Hold it here for me, please.
335
00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:34,169
Howdy folks!
336
00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:38,760
There's still the card problem.
337
00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:41,047
The fight is long comrade...
338
00:26:41,058 --> 00:26:43,425
-but victory is certain!
-Of course.
339
00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:49,138
It's not bad to be poor.
340
00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:56,693
It's bad to be rich at the height of
fame with your morals a dirty shame.
341
00:26:56,782 --> 00:26:58,318
Yeah, yeah.
342
00:26:58,325 --> 00:27:01,033
That's bad!
343
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:07,039
DANGER. RISK OF LIFE.
344
00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,041
- This is Valter dos Santos.
-Good morning!
345
00:27:09,044 --> 00:27:11,661
- Hi! I'm Vik, Vik Muniz.
-I'm Valter dos Santos.
346
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:16,548
What is this
and why are you doing it?
347
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:21,050
We are making portraits
of the picker.
348
00:27:21,056 --> 00:27:22,638
Because the picker is a person...
349
00:27:23,225 --> 00:27:26,684
like this garbage,
that nobody knows about.
350
00:27:26,687 --> 00:27:30,225
Very well,
so from what I understand,
351
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,066
I think this is very good for us...
352
00:27:34,361 --> 00:27:40,482
because it will raise
awareness about us pickers.
353
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:43,484
- Isn't that about right?
-Exactly.
354
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,703
I hope you understand me
because I don't have...
355
00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:48,664
either a primary or
a secondary education.
356
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:55,121
You didn't ask me, but
I'm going to introduce myself.
357
00:27:55,132 --> 00:27:58,090
I like introducing myself
with my own voice.
358
00:27:58,635 --> 00:28:01,468
I have been a picker here
for 26 years.
359
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:05,222
I am proud to be a picker.
360
00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:09,473
I'm the Vice President
of ACAMJG...
361
00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:14,269
the Association of Pickers
of Jardim Gramacho.
362
00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:22,115
I represent 2,500 pickers
who work here at the landfill.
363
00:28:23,994 --> 00:28:25,701
I carry this with pride.
364
00:28:29,666 --> 00:28:34,285
Let's say each household
generates one kilo of garbage.
365
00:28:35,172 --> 00:28:42,010
And one kilo of garbage generates
500 grams of recyclable material.
366
00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:47,174
So a thousand homes
generate 500 kilos...
367
00:28:47,184 --> 00:28:49,016
of material that could be recycled.
368
00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:53,763
That's 500 kilos less of material that
would pollute the rivers, the lagoons...
369
00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:58,564
that won't clog the sewers
or be buried here in the landfill...
370
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:06,405
doing such great harm
to nature and the environment.
371
00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:11,197
I try to explain to people...
372
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:19,335
what they can recycle
and what they can compost...
373
00:29:20,342 --> 00:29:22,549
and what they should do.
374
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:26,345
People sometimes say
"But one single can?"
375
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,591
One single can is
of great importance.
376
00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:33,720
Because 99 is not 100,
377
00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:36,768
and that single one will
make the difference.
378
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:15,010
I feel disgusting.
379
00:30:19,401 --> 00:30:22,393
I can't believe you want
to show me all dirty.
380
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:24,611
So tell me Isis, how long
have you worked here?
381
00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,981
- Five yea rs.
-Five years?
382
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:28,775
And what's it like working here?
383
00:30:29,411 --> 00:30:31,402
- Really bad. Awful.
-Really bad?
384
00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:32,528
You don't like it?
385
00:30:33,999 --> 00:30:36,240
Look Vik, it's Vik, right?
386
00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:40,661
This isn't a future.
387
00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:44,249
But you make
good money here, right?
388
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:48,252
Yes, I make US$20-$25 a day.
389
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,054
Beautiful!
390
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:52,389
That's right!
391
00:30:52,809 --> 00:30:54,015
Very good!
392
00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,430
It really is very good.
393
00:30:56,021 --> 00:31:00,185
Think about what you're going to do
when you get out of Gramacho.
394
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:01,561
When you're rich and famous.
395
00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:06,771
I met someone.
396
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,443
And today I am in love with him.
397
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:14,323
He is a truck driver.
398
00:31:14,331 --> 00:31:15,287
It's just that...
399
00:31:15,791 --> 00:31:17,702
I can't talk about it
or I'll start to cry.
400
00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:21,702
It's been 2 weeks
since we broke up.
401
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:29,710
I really like him.
402
00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:31,837
He was a good thing in my life.
403
00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:34,048
But it's been two weeks
since we broke up.
404
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:37,051
I got a tattoo of his name
on my leg.
405
00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:38,052
And you won't get back together?
406
00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:39,678
I don't think so.
407
00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:40,724
Why did you break up?
408
00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:43,307
It ended because...
409
00:31:46,488 --> 00:31:47,694
he was married.
410
00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:50,234
And so it ended.
411
00:32:20,522 --> 00:32:24,231
Look out! Get out of the way!
412
00:33:42,729 --> 00:33:44,436
I have nothing to complain
about in my life.
413
00:33:45,065 --> 00:33:48,023
Nothing, nothing at all.
414
00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:54,439
Oh, man, if I complained
God would punish me.
415
00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:58,108
Tell him what you want be.
416
00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:00,444
I want to be a doctor.
417
00:34:02,082 --> 00:34:03,243
What kind a doctor?
418
00:34:04,584 --> 00:34:06,040
A psychologist.
419
00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:10,079
Did you know that psychologists
take care of crazy people?
420
00:34:12,509 --> 00:34:14,420
- Yeah.
-No, that's not true.
421
00:34:14,427 --> 00:34:16,759
No?. So what do psychologists do?
422
00:34:17,764 --> 00:34:23,225
There was a woman
there who was blonde.
423
00:34:24,145 --> 00:34:25,510
Oh. Beto's wife!
424
00:34:25,647 --> 00:34:35,648
And she told me that if I wanted
I could be a psychologist.
425
00:34:35,657 --> 00:34:38,240
So that's why I want
to be a psychologist.
426
00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:44,489
It's quiet now because there are
no wars between the favelas.
427
00:34:44,499 --> 00:34:46,706
But when there are
wars between the favelas...
428
00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:50,244
you can be sure that a lot
of dead bodies will be dumped here.
429
00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,247
There are always weird things here.
430
00:34:57,721 --> 00:34:58,677
Marat!
431
00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:00,721
Yeah, who's Marat?
432
00:35:00,724 --> 00:35:04,308
- Marat was an intellectual...
-Oh, like me.
433
00:35:04,644 --> 00:35:07,636
Nobody else likes the guys I like.
I like Machiavelli.
434
00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:08,682
Machiavelli's cool.
435
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:11,728
- Who I really like is Nietzsche.
-What about Nietzsche?
436
00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:13,817
Nietzsche's got a great
philosophy on life.
437
00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:15,440
Let's make Tiao into Marat.
438
00:35:15,572 --> 00:35:17,688
He died in the bathtub like this.
439
00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:22,993
- Bring that bathtub!
-I'm going to play a dead guy.
440
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:26,743
One time I was walking in the
garbage and I came across this book.
441
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,708
It was all muddy and on it was written
"The Prince" by Machiavelli.
442
00:35:29,711 --> 00:35:34,501
I felt like reading it so I took it home
and put it behind the fridge to dry.
443
00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:36,252
When it dried out I began to read.
444
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:42,596
Machiavelli wrote about all
of the princes of his day.
445
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,590
That time period in Florence,
that madness...
446
00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:47,434
it reminds me a lot of Rio today,
all these different fiefdoms...
447
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:52,603
each with their own gangs
and their own fortifications.
448
00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,516
I got really into it.
449
00:35:54,527 --> 00:36:00,614
He talks about Moses, who became
leader because God talked to him.
450
00:36:00,617 --> 00:36:03,325
And Cesare Borgia,
because of the corrupt pope.
451
00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:10,291
That was when I was becoming
President of the Association.
452
00:36:10,293 --> 00:36:11,533
I learned a lot.
453
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,082
Be careful!
454
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:20,293
You can get further in,
and sit up a bit more.
455
00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:21,634
My legs will stick out.
456
00:36:21,638 --> 00:36:24,551
- You can bend them.
-We'll cut that out.
457
00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:27,307
He's like this.
458
00:36:28,728 --> 00:36:29,638
That's it.
459
00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:31,808
This piece of paper is
in the left hand.
460
00:36:32,065 --> 00:36:32,770
This hand.
461
00:36:32,774 --> 00:36:35,641
That's it exactly! That's right!
462
00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:47,778
- Got it!
-Thank you, Tiao!
463
00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:49,287
Very cool, man!
464
00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:53,584
Do you want juice?
Coffee?
465
00:37:19,195 --> 00:37:22,608
This is beef stew, rib stew.
466
00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:26,400
Here's boiling water
to make pasta.
467
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:31,120
Hand me that bag!
468
00:37:38,381 --> 00:37:45,094
When the market produce ends up
here in boxes, it's easier for me.
469
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:46,841
I get potatoes
and vegetables.
470
00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:49,431
The drivers from the supermarket
trucks bring me clean vegetables.
471
00:37:49,642 --> 00:37:57,106
If the meat truck comes, the boys
get it before the expiration date.
472
00:38:08,745 --> 00:38:11,612
I am a trained cook,
a restaurant cook.
473
00:38:11,831 --> 00:38:14,118
In this garbage I make many things.
474
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:18,494
I make salads, potato,
roast beef.
475
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:21,748
When I can get a good cut of meat,
I roast it for them.
476
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,124
And them they get silly and
sing me happy birthday,
477
00:38:24,135 --> 00:38:25,341
even though it isn't my birthday.
478
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:32,508
We feel good in here.
I feel very good.
479
00:38:32,602 --> 00:38:35,515
Even if it rains,
I get the fire running to cook.
480
00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:37,308
I don't let anyone go hungry.
481
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:48,274
- Just like that.
-Like that?
482
00:38:48,284 --> 00:38:50,025
That's right, but face me!
483
00:39:06,469 --> 00:39:09,757
Don't put this on TV, I'd die.
484
00:39:10,473 --> 00:39:13,386
I first came here almost a year ago.
485
00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:17,723
My husband became unemployed.
486
00:39:18,481 --> 00:39:22,349
And we had to pay the bills, keep
the household, support my son.
487
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,735
We would get on the bus,
and people would go like this.
488
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:28,571
It's quite a perfume!
489
00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:31,784
It got to the point where I'd say:
excuse me ma'am, but do I stink?
490
00:39:32,078 --> 00:39:33,239
Do you smell something bad?
491
00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:35,283
It's because I was working
over there in the dump.
492
00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:39,537
It's better than
turning tricks in Copacabana.
493
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:42,244
I find it to be
more interesting and more honest.
494
00:39:42,255 --> 00:39:43,211
It's more dignified.
495
00:39:43,464 --> 00:39:46,001
I stink now, but when I get home
I'll take a shower, and it'll be fine.
496
00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:48,090
But it's disgusting.
497
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:55,257
It's easy for you to be sitting there
at home in front of your television...
498
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:58,260
consuming whatever you want
and tossing everything in the trash...
499
00:39:58,271 --> 00:40:00,433
and leaving it out on the street for
the garbage truck to take it away.
500
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,555
But where does that garbage go?
501
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:05,434
That's it.
502
00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,561
We go along.
503
00:40:07,572 --> 00:40:10,314
The fight is expensive.
We have a great value.
504
00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:26,751
Come on boy!
505
00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,549
Come here
and get your hands dirty.
506
00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:37,262
When you go to get your money
you don't say it's dirty.
507
00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:40,052
Easy there. Let's go.
508
00:40:43,399 --> 00:40:45,515
Come on, come on!
509
00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:52,572
Fabio, we need to see
what material you're going to use.
510
00:40:52,575 --> 00:40:56,785
Ok, so the easiest thing
to decide is the carnival stuff.
511
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:57,823
Costumes and things like that?
512
00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:02,324
Costumes and things because clear
glass is no of no use for me.
513
00:41:02,543 --> 00:41:07,538
But green champagne bottles,
brown beer bottles, costumes...
514
00:41:07,548 --> 00:41:09,539
you could collect things
like that for me.
515
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:14,511
Are we going to do it
by weight or by tarpful?
516
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,474
How do we do it? They told me
that a tarp cost US$0.40 per kilo?
517
00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:20,433
Per kilo, yeah.
518
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:22,852
And they said that one
cost US$0.70 cents?
519
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,186
Yes, US$0.71 cents.
520
00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:26,602
This is PET. When it makes
that noise you know it's PET.
521
00:41:28,027 --> 00:41:32,146
That for example is not PET,
it's PP. It's the most expensive.
522
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:35,114
And what about brown glass?
523
00:41:35,118 --> 00:41:37,655
Glass we have to pick specially,
we normally don't pick glass.
524
00:41:37,662 --> 00:41:40,029
- No?
-No, normally we don't.
525
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:42,656
- Do you have a price for it?
-Glass is US$0.06 cents per kilo.
526
00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:46,456
- Six cents? It's cheaper than PET?
-Yeah, it's a lot cheaper.
527
00:41:46,462 --> 00:41:48,624
- But it's a lot heavier.
-But it's a lot heavier.
528
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:52,715
What's all that mixed up over
there, bottles, that hoses...
529
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,426
That's all PVC.
530
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:58,597
PVC is almost all made up
of different objects.
531
00:41:59,392 --> 00:42:00,052
Right.
532
00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:02,221
There are jellies.
533
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:06,645
X-rays.
534
00:42:06,649 --> 00:42:08,435
PVC is what I will use the most.
535
00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:12,444
It gives you the feeling
of being "everything".
536
00:42:12,447 --> 00:42:13,357
Of objects.
537
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:19,611
For me PVC is the filet mignon
Definitely.
538
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,698
And I'll use the PET
and glass more as filler.
539
00:42:25,585 --> 00:42:26,700
To fill it up.
540
00:42:37,096 --> 00:42:39,337
- Just white Paper.
-PET, metals.
541
00:42:40,099 --> 00:42:42,090
Just white paper.
542
00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:43,432
Watch the truck!
543
00:42:43,978 --> 00:42:46,185
Here it comes!
544
00:42:46,189 --> 00:42:50,103
Watch the truck!
545
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,445
Before coming to the landfill,
we had a calm life.
546
00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:58,107
My mother still lived
with my father.
547
00:42:58,117 --> 00:43:03,237
I was the oldest
and I had two younger brothers.
548
00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:05,705
But then my father died.
549
00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:11,044
You're sowing,
throwing grain like this.
550
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:12,291
- I'm sowing.
-Yeah.
551
00:43:12,632 --> 00:43:16,125
This hand here
can be relaxed and open.
552
00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:21,505
My mother was struggling.
553
00:43:21,516 --> 00:43:23,473
We heard about Jardim Gramacho.
554
00:43:23,476 --> 00:43:26,764
My mother came here,
and then I came too.
555
00:43:26,771 --> 00:43:28,478
I started to help her out.
556
00:43:28,564 --> 00:43:30,225
I was nine years old.
557
00:43:31,067 --> 00:43:34,480
My mother worked here for a while,
but then she died as well.
558
00:43:45,414 --> 00:43:47,621
Once, I was collecting
here on the ramp...
559
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:50,082
when the gate
of the garbage truck fell off.
560
00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:55,664
It fell on me, and started
to drag me and crush me...
561
00:43:56,008 --> 00:43:57,715
I broke my leg, my arm.
562
00:43:57,718 --> 00:44:00,506
I fractured a rib.
563
00:44:02,265 --> 00:44:06,429
I broke my other arm here.
I was in really bad shape.
564
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:10,262
If it weren't for my friends here...
565
00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:12,355
Over 20 people donated blood.
566
00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:17,649
It was great for the hospital
because their blood bank was filled.
567
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:20,773
People here gave me
a lot of support.
568
00:46:48,097 --> 00:46:50,134
It's better than during the day,
there are less people.
569
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:52,215
It's better than being out there...
570
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:54,263
like a lot of people,
prostituting yourself.
571
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,602
We are working honestly.
572
00:46:57,273 --> 00:46:58,684
We're earning our living.
573
00:47:06,032 --> 00:47:07,648
I've worked
since I was seven years old.
574
00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:10,154
Now I'm 18.
575
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:14,655
I eat what I find around here.
576
00:47:15,124 --> 00:47:16,706
I take it from the truck.
577
00:47:18,461 --> 00:47:21,453
Yogurt comes along,
whatever comes along, I eat it.
578
00:47:23,049 --> 00:47:26,542
If I don't die, it's not bad.
I can get by.
579
00:47:28,012 --> 00:47:31,755
We see things
that aren't pleasant.
580
00:47:35,436 --> 00:47:38,724
Like the other day I went up there
and something made me throw up...
581
00:47:38,731 --> 00:47:42,269
There was a baby there
that had been thrown away.
582
00:47:42,485 --> 00:47:44,271
I fell over backwards.
583
00:47:45,029 --> 00:47:46,440
I immediately thought
of my own kids.
584
00:47:48,032 --> 00:47:50,023
- It was dead?
-Yes.
585
00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:56,029
Rent is US$8 per week.
586
00:47:57,291 --> 00:48:00,704
If you are late and pay
on Monday it's US$13.
587
00:48:04,256 --> 00:48:09,092
I go home to see my kids
every couple of weeks.
588
00:48:09,345 --> 00:48:13,054
Sometimes I'll just go
and come back on the same day.
589
00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,803
My daughter is three years old,
my son is almost two.
590
00:48:20,106 --> 00:48:26,478
Their father is a drug dealer.
If I counted on him, I'd be screwed.
591
00:48:33,494 --> 00:48:36,532
Sometimes I get visitors,
the rats.
592
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:39,781
They run around in the roof.
It drives me crazy.
593
00:48:39,792 --> 00:48:41,533
I run out of here screaming.
594
00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:46,792
Even when they're asleep,
they annoy me.
595
00:48:47,007 --> 00:48:49,499
They fall off the roof
onto the bed sometimes.
596
00:48:55,558 --> 00:48:56,343
Bye.
597
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,391
- Leaving already?
-Yes.
598
00:49:02,356 --> 00:49:05,098
My daughter caught a fungus.
599
00:49:06,026 --> 00:49:09,109
My mother also got the fungus.
The thing covered her foot.
600
00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:11,813
It messed up her whole foot.
601
00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:15,070
She ended up staying at home
and taking care of my kids.
602
00:49:17,288 --> 00:49:19,154
- Where are you going?
-Home.
603
00:49:25,588 --> 00:49:29,081
I would like
to take care of children.
604
00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:32,254
I really love children,
my own as well as other people's.
605
00:49:33,554 --> 00:49:35,591
If it was up to me,
I'd open a day care center.
606
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,431
There are so many children.
607
00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:50,067
Come here you beautiful thing.
608
00:49:58,621 --> 00:50:01,033
How are you?
609
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,452
Come here you beautiful thing.
610
00:50:04,793 --> 00:50:07,376
Give mommy a kiss!
Give me a kiss!
611
00:50:13,177 --> 00:50:14,292
And you? Are you OK?
612
00:50:15,596 --> 00:50:16,336
No?
613
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:17,344
No?
614
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:18,637
What's going on?
615
00:50:22,144 --> 00:50:23,384
And you? Are you OK?
616
00:50:26,357 --> 00:50:27,722
Here is our kitchen.
617
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:30,646
It's small, but you can still
make a little something in it.
618
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:33,861
We make food on that stove.
619
00:50:34,657 --> 00:50:40,573
Here is the living room
where we put a bunc of junk.
620
00:50:40,746 --> 00:50:42,157
The bathroom is here.
621
00:50:44,833 --> 00:50:47,040
Oh this bathroom is bad,
cut the bathroom.
622
00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:51,166
Here's the bedroom.
623
00:50:51,173 --> 00:50:54,416
This isn't a bed,
it's really just a chest of drawers.
624
00:50:55,261 --> 00:50:57,673
We improvised
and put the mattress on top.
625
00:50:58,222 --> 00:51:00,463
Everyone sleeps piled up here.
626
00:51:00,724 --> 00:51:03,762
Here's the most recent baby
of the house.
627
00:51:13,279 --> 00:51:16,067
TV. Fan.
628
00:51:16,282 --> 00:51:20,446
I moved here after
I split from their father.
629
00:51:21,161 --> 00:51:25,246
He beat me and I got so hurt,
I had to get out of there.
630
00:51:25,249 --> 00:51:28,458
And there was no other way
to survive, so I stayed here.
631
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:31,418
She is my eldest and she took
care of the kids so I could work.
632
00:51:31,672 --> 00:51:34,255
We had to survive somehow.
633
00:51:36,552 --> 00:51:38,714
After a while, we all had
to go to the garbage.
634
00:51:38,721 --> 00:51:41,008
There was no one to leave them
with, so I brought them with me.
635
00:51:42,474 --> 00:51:45,091
I moved in with their father
when I was twelve.
636
00:51:52,651 --> 00:51:54,062
I'm proud of my work...
637
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:58,028
because at least I'm not involved
with the drug traffic...
638
00:51:58,115 --> 00:52:02,029
or prostituting myself, like a lot
of pretty girls around here do.
639
00:52:02,328 --> 00:52:05,286
They could be trying to achieve
something in life, but no.
640
00:52:05,289 --> 00:52:10,250
They prefer to throw themselves
out there onto the street...
641
00:52:11,754 --> 00:52:13,336
prostituting themselves.
642
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,625
Right there.
643
00:53:01,261 --> 00:53:04,504
Magnetic tape.
644
00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:06,347
Is that film?
645
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,809
Yes, there are a lot
of rolls up there.
646
00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:11,177
I'm going to be Mona Lisa.
647
00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:18,271
What's that?
648
00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:21,779
It has be a woman of a certain age
to wear shoes like that.
649
00:53:22,491 --> 00:53:24,823
She must have worked
as an executive, right?
650
00:53:25,494 --> 00:53:27,576
To work in a shoe
with a pointy toe like that?
651
00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:32,115
Here's a tape.
They must have a camera.
652
00:53:32,126 --> 00:53:34,083
- A camera film.
-And they've got a computer.
653
00:53:34,086 --> 00:53:36,544
This trash is totally
middle class.
654
00:53:36,547 --> 00:53:37,833
Wait a minute, Playboy?
655
00:53:38,090 --> 00:53:39,205
"Dear Subscriber...
656
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:44,382
you are now part of an exclusive
club that receives Playboy...
657
00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:46,595
the best men's magazine
in the country."
658
00:53:46,598 --> 00:53:48,760
This guy liked...
659
00:53:49,143 --> 00:53:50,258
And then he died.
660
00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:56,355
This guy didn't
have a lot of money.
661
00:53:56,567 --> 00:53:57,227
This one here?
662
00:53:57,234 --> 00:53:59,601
This comes from poor people
because it comes in little bags.
663
00:53:59,778 --> 00:54:02,566
-"Poor is the trash of the poor."
-I put my trash in little bags too.
664
00:54:03,323 --> 00:54:05,690
To think you guys have
gone through my trash.
665
00:54:16,086 --> 00:54:19,124
Actually I like this picture.
666
00:54:20,716 --> 00:54:23,083
What we should do now
is get rid of...
667
00:54:23,385 --> 00:54:25,422
is choose the best pictures.
668
00:54:27,055 --> 00:54:28,716
This one.
So good.
669
00:54:28,807 --> 00:54:29,717
Yeah, I love it too.
670
00:54:33,103 --> 00:54:34,343
Super super strong.
671
00:54:34,354 --> 00:54:35,594
This is super strong.
672
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,856
This is super strong, also.
673
00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:46,105
I love Isis and Suelem
but these shots aren't quite right.
674
00:54:46,492 --> 00:54:48,403
We can shoot them
in the studio also.
675
00:54:49,411 --> 00:54:51,197
Yeah, it's not a problem.
676
00:54:51,663 --> 00:54:53,654
- How's it going?
-What's up?
677
00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:56,828
How are you?
678
00:54:58,170 --> 00:55:01,458
Everyone who goes to a museum,
goes up to a painting...
679
00:55:01,465 --> 00:55:04,583
and then they stop
and start to go like this.
680
00:55:07,137 --> 00:55:08,468
Have you seen this?
Everyone does it.
681
00:55:08,472 --> 00:55:10,133
- Are they drunk?
-It looks like it.
682
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:13,678
They go like this,
and then they go back...
683
00:55:13,685 --> 00:55:15,175
maybe take a little step back.
684
00:55:15,187 --> 00:55:16,518
And then they see the image.
685
00:55:16,522 --> 00:55:22,017
Imagine it's a beautiful landscape
with a lake and a man fishing.
686
00:55:22,444 --> 00:55:24,151
They look and see
the man fishing...
687
00:55:24,279 --> 00:55:28,648
and they lean in an everything
vanishes and becomes paint.
688
00:55:29,243 --> 00:55:31,450
They see the material.
689
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:33,694
They move away
and see the image.
690
00:55:33,705 --> 00:55:36,322
They get closer
and see the material.
691
00:55:36,458 --> 00:55:38,415
They move away
and see the idea.
692
00:55:38,418 --> 00:55:41,331
They get closer
and see just the material.
693
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:43,454
Since we're pickers,
we just see recyclable materials.
694
00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:44,455
- It earns money.
-But that's interesting...
695
00:55:44,550 --> 00:55:45,631
You have one point of view.
696
00:55:47,219 --> 00:55:50,132
I got it what this
can do with people.
697
00:55:50,138 --> 00:55:56,510
I bet you people stay much longer
at your exhibits than anyone does.
698
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,727
They'll spend so much time
looking at the image...
699
00:55:58,730 --> 00:56:03,475
because then they'll see
the ladder, the piano.
700
00:56:03,485 --> 00:56:05,396
They'll look at everything.
701
00:56:05,529 --> 00:56:08,191
They'll spend hours looking
at the same picture.
702
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:11,190
When one thing turns into another
is the most beautiful moment.
703
00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:14,694
A combination of sounds
transforms into music.
704
00:56:14,705 --> 00:56:15,740
And that applies to everything.
705
00:56:15,747 --> 00:56:18,739
That moment is really magical.
706
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:23,001
Looks good.
707
00:56:25,424 --> 00:56:28,382
You want to dress up
like mommy, in a sheet?
708
00:56:29,761 --> 00:56:33,004
Let me see here. You're going
to be just like a little saint.
709
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:38,759
You're going to sit here.
710
00:56:39,438 --> 00:56:42,271
Move your legs a bit, is that ok?
711
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,225
That's it.
712
00:56:49,197 --> 00:56:50,562
Didn't it come out beautifully?
713
00:56:53,201 --> 00:56:55,317
This whole area will be
filled in with stuff.
714
00:56:55,329 --> 00:56:57,286
And it will be clearer
at the sides.
715
00:56:57,289 --> 00:56:58,370
Exactly.
716
00:56:59,041 --> 00:57:04,207
When you are placing the materials,
follow the shadows of the picture.
717
00:57:26,443 --> 00:57:28,400
Did you just do this one?
718
00:57:29,071 --> 00:57:33,315
Do the same thing
with the shorter one.
719
00:57:34,034 --> 00:57:37,072
I want to close this here and see
if it makes more sense like that.
720
00:57:38,330 --> 00:57:40,571
See this line going up...
721
00:57:41,416 --> 00:57:44,454
Is there a way to take
something away here?
722
00:57:44,461 --> 00:57:45,496
Take off one more.
723
00:57:49,091 --> 00:57:49,626
That's it.
724
00:58:11,279 --> 00:58:13,486
Brooke de Ocampo, Isis.
725
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:15,447
- Hi, how are you?
-Suelen.
726
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:16,064
HUI
727
00:58:16,201 --> 00:58:17,111
This is Magna.
728
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:18,280
- Hi.
-How are you?
729
00:58:18,537 --> 00:58:25,159
Brooke has a super important job
at an international auction company.
730
00:58:25,419 --> 00:58:29,834
So we're going to make
a really big photograph of this.
731
00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:34,713
And she's already agreed
to take it to an international sale.
732
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,135
There'll be a guy with a hammer,
going, going, going, gone.
733
00:58:41,977 --> 00:58:43,513
Suelen and her two kids.
734
00:58:45,147 --> 00:58:48,310
It all started by the feeling
that we should do something...
735
00:58:48,608 --> 00:58:51,646
that will convert back to them.
736
00:58:51,653 --> 00:58:54,736
We'll make something
out of garbage...
737
00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,447
and it would be sold
for a lot of money.
738
00:58:56,533 --> 00:59:02,154
And it will become something they
would put their hands on to help them.
739
00:59:02,164 --> 00:59:06,624
And in the end, they won't say:
"Vik did it.
740
00:59:06,626 --> 00:59:07,240
Right.
741
00:59:07,461 --> 00:59:08,576
- We did it.
-Right.
742
00:59:23,101 --> 00:59:25,468
I had just arrived from the bank
and given the money to Gloria.
743
00:59:25,645 --> 00:59:30,264
I was standing by
the door and I saw him
744
00:59:31,443 --> 00:59:33,559
and another man coming
towards us with a pointed gun.
745
00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:35,769
They told us not to move.
746
00:59:36,448 --> 00:59:39,190
And they took everybody's wages.
747
00:59:40,118 --> 00:59:41,449
How much money was there?
748
00:59:41,620 --> 00:59:45,033
Six.. . US$6,000.
749
00:59:50,712 --> 00:59:53,704
I keep asking myself
if it's worth it.
750
00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:57,708
And the comission?
751
00:59:58,261 --> 01:00:05,304
Sometimes I just feel like
giving up on all of this.
752
01:00:09,064 --> 01:00:10,520
I don't want to be here anymore.
753
01:00:41,304 --> 01:00:43,295
The presents are this small.
754
01:00:54,609 --> 01:01:03,074
Try making it gradually darker from
here to here, does that make sense?
755
01:01:14,212 --> 01:01:15,668
Good work everyone.
756
01:01:44,659 --> 01:01:45,694
It came out beautifully!
757
01:01:46,328 --> 01:01:49,320
That's not garbage,
it's recyclable material, it's money.
758
01:01:49,748 --> 01:01:50,613
A lot of money.
759
01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:12,138
Oh man that's crazy.
760
01:02:12,562 --> 01:02:14,599
It looks exactly like me.
761
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,351
Oh, my! Man!
762
01:02:18,735 --> 01:02:21,602
I never imagined
I'd become a work of art.
763
01:02:25,617 --> 01:02:26,573
Take a look.
764
01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:19,784
See?
765
01:03:20,422 --> 01:03:21,162
That's me?
766
01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:24,164
Yes ma'am, that's your arm.
767
01:03:26,636 --> 01:03:28,172
It's this photo right here.
768
01:03:28,263 --> 01:03:29,628
You're looking in that direction...
769
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:31,425
-that's your arm.
-I see.
770
01:03:31,433 --> 01:03:34,221
Everything is made out of recyclable
materials from the landfill.
771
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,227
I see. How charming!
772
01:03:39,024 --> 01:03:41,015
It's so well done. Excuse me
while I have a look over here.
773
01:03:41,026 --> 01:03:43,188
- Come on, come on, look.
-My God.
774
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,271
Let's see if I understand it right.
775
01:03:47,282 --> 01:03:49,023
Oh yes. I understand!
776
01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:51,241
Here's the arm.
777
01:03:51,745 --> 01:03:53,361
I understand.
778
01:03:57,375 --> 01:03:58,615
It's all recyclable materials.
779
01:04:14,017 --> 01:04:14,722
Look at this.
780
01:04:20,398 --> 01:04:21,980
As far as you can see.
781
01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,644
You see huge buildings.
782
01:04:23,651 --> 01:04:25,733
It becomes sort of
a textural thing.
783
01:04:25,737 --> 01:04:27,227
You lose that sense of scale.
784
01:04:27,238 --> 01:04:28,694
It starts to look small...
785
01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,188
and like it's just like hair.
786
01:04:31,242 --> 01:04:32,482
It's not a pretty place.
787
01:04:32,744 --> 01:04:35,031
Except when you look
from very far away.
788
01:04:38,458 --> 01:04:40,074
This is where I grew up.
789
01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:43,664
Every time we talk about
some friend...
790
01:04:43,671 --> 01:04:44,331
that lived here...
791
01:04:44,339 --> 01:04:45,579
then we say "oh he died!"
792
01:04:46,466 --> 01:04:48,048
So many of them died.
793
01:04:48,426 --> 01:04:50,258
They died from drug traffic...
794
01:04:50,261 --> 01:04:52,047
or they died
from all kinds of stuff.
795
01:04:53,515 --> 01:04:55,426
That used to be my room...
796
01:04:55,433 --> 01:04:56,514
when I was a kid.
797
01:04:57,310 --> 01:04:59,051
Now it's just the guest room.
798
01:05:00,271 --> 01:05:03,013
There was always a lot
of humidity on the walls...
799
01:05:03,024 --> 01:05:06,358
because Sao Pualo
is very rainy all the time.
800
01:05:06,486 --> 01:05:08,068
I used to have my bed here...
801
01:05:08,238 --> 01:05:11,606
and there were all these stains.
802
01:05:12,283 --> 01:05:14,320
I used to make a diary...
803
01:05:14,327 --> 01:05:16,284
of how the stains
would develop.
804
01:05:17,622 --> 01:05:20,034
This used to be
a very rough neighborhood.
805
01:05:20,291 --> 01:05:22,783
Now it's becoming sort of a low...
806
01:05:24,254 --> 01:05:27,292
low middle class neighborhood.
807
01:05:27,757 --> 01:05:28,713
But it's safe...
808
01:05:28,716 --> 01:05:31,048
and people can live here
decently.
809
01:05:31,469 --> 01:05:33,255
I was never...
810
01:05:35,014 --> 01:05:36,470
ashamed of being poor.
811
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:40,012
And I was always proud
of my parents.
812
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:47,316
I bought this lot in 1963, and I
built this house with difficulty.
813
01:05:48,153 --> 01:05:52,317
When I moved here it was dirt,
there were no paved roads, nothing.
814
01:05:52,323 --> 01:05:56,988
There was no running water,
no sewage.
815
01:05:57,996 --> 01:06:00,488
Thanks God, now it's the opposite.
Today we have everything we need.
816
01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:08,504
We got here with some difficulty,
but with dignity.
817
01:06:11,134 --> 01:06:12,624
My grandmother brought me up...
818
01:06:12,635 --> 01:06:14,091
because my mother...
819
01:06:14,345 --> 01:06:16,086
had to work
at the phone company.
820
01:06:16,347 --> 01:06:18,133
And my father
he worked at night...
821
01:06:18,141 --> 01:06:19,757
sometimes
he worked two shifts.
822
01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:21,550
This is Ana Rocha...
823
01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,347
the most important woman...
824
01:06:23,354 --> 01:06:24,344
in my life.
825
01:06:25,607 --> 01:06:27,564
She is 93 years old.
826
01:06:29,319 --> 01:06:31,606
I told them
you were 7O years old.
827
01:06:32,447 --> 01:06:33,152
That's right.
828
01:07:01,226 --> 01:07:04,014
I'm getting stiff from
lying in this position.
829
01:07:06,397 --> 01:07:08,308
Artists have to suffer,
don't you know?
830
01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,399
Who told you that, Vik?
831
01:07:11,402 --> 01:07:13,188
Honey, I just know.
I'm on the inside now.
832
01:07:13,196 --> 01:07:15,654
Man, you're becoming an artist.
833
01:07:15,657 --> 01:07:17,239
It's all Vik's fault.
834
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:21,618
Vik's made you conceited,
Vik and Fabio.
835
01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:24,324
That's what they keep
saying at home.
836
01:07:27,043 --> 01:07:28,704
It changed a lot of things for me.
837
01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:32,705
I don't see myself
I the trash anymore.
838
01:07:33,591 --> 01:07:34,422
I really don't.
839
01:07:43,476 --> 01:07:44,432
I don't know.
840
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:50,680
I don't want to go back
to the garbage. I don't.
841
01:07:58,700 --> 01:08:06,448
I told Fabio: just let me stay.
Even if I only get US$150 a month.
842
01:08:06,457 --> 01:08:08,118
But please just let me stay here.
843
01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:11,622
I don't want to go back
to the garbage.
844
01:08:15,717 --> 01:08:17,003
A little more in profile.
845
01:08:21,347 --> 01:08:25,011
The sad story is that I lost my son
when he was three years old.
846
01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:29,352
I saw my son die when
he was three years old.
847
01:08:30,273 --> 01:08:32,435
I was at the hospital
with him for three days.
848
01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,474
I saw him dying.
849
01:08:35,486 --> 01:08:38,023
Breathing his
last breaths and everything.
850
01:08:38,698 --> 01:08:40,359
He had acute pneumonia.
851
01:08:40,366 --> 01:08:43,449
He was throwing up
little pieces of his lungs.
852
01:08:46,664 --> 01:08:51,249
They called me to identify my son's
body. It was on top of a stone.
853
01:08:51,586 --> 01:08:55,124
It was wrapped in black plastic...
854
01:08:55,506 --> 01:08:59,420
with a big sign
with his name, Carlos Igor.
855
01:09:00,303 --> 01:09:02,385
I fell over, I fainted.
856
01:09:02,388 --> 01:09:06,347
I couldn't believe that
it was my son.
857
01:09:06,684 --> 01:09:10,598
I asked them to take the plastic off
because he was too hot.
858
01:09:12,398 --> 01:09:16,357
After that my husband left me and
he took my daughter away from me.
859
01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:21,272
She's eight now,
when my son died she was two.
860
01:09:21,282 --> 01:09:23,774
I never saw her again.
Not since she was two.
861
01:09:24,035 --> 01:09:25,992
I forgot my life,
I forgot everything,
862
01:09:25,995 --> 01:09:27,781
I forgot that I had a life,
a house, everything.
863
01:09:27,789 --> 01:09:29,496
I started going out all the time.
864
01:09:29,791 --> 01:09:31,577
The only thing I didn't
do was do drugs, thank God.
865
01:09:31,793 --> 01:09:35,752
But I started going out
and drinking and getting wasted.
866
01:09:35,755 --> 01:09:38,247
I started drinking
moonshine all the time.
867
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,754
My son was so beautiful,
he was very beautiful.
868
01:09:44,764 --> 01:09:46,254
I lost the last
photograph I had of him.
869
01:09:46,265 --> 01:09:48,472
It was in my wallet
that was stolen.
870
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,426
But I don't forget anything.
871
01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:53,644
I don't forget the tiniest details.
872
01:09:54,273 --> 01:09:55,559
At the morgue,
873
01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:58,308
there was a little ant crawling on
his face because of the flowers.
874
01:09:58,403 --> 01:10:01,395
I made a scene to get that ant
off my son's body.
875
01:10:01,406 --> 01:10:06,116
I don't forget a single detail
not a single, single one.
876
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,662
- Come my dear.
-Thank you.
877
01:10:12,250 --> 01:10:14,082
I'll print a photograph for you.
878
01:10:16,462 --> 01:10:17,497
NO.
879
01:10:19,257 --> 01:10:21,544
Isis, you're not supposed to cry.
880
01:10:21,551 --> 01:10:22,382
Come here.
881
01:10:23,177 --> 01:10:24,042
Thank you.
882
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:27,387
- Did you like it?
-Yes.
883
01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:29,427
Remember that first day
at Jardim Gramacho?
884
01:10:29,434 --> 01:10:30,595
Did you think that that lunatic...
885
01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:32,558
with the camera was going
to do something like this?
886
01:10:34,522 --> 01:10:36,229
Not in my wildest dreams.
887
01:10:36,607 --> 01:10:38,473
I think we have to be careful...
888
01:10:38,484 --> 01:10:41,101
because I really
can see already...
889
01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:45,443
how delicate the whole situation
of having them there..
890
01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:46,190
Is for them.
891
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,235
For their minds.
892
01:10:47,452 --> 01:10:50,365
They totally forgot
about Gramacho.
893
01:10:50,371 --> 01:10:51,452
They don't want to go back.
894
01:10:51,456 --> 01:10:54,699
At the beginning
at least I had the impression...
895
01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:56,707
and now I think this is wrong...
896
01:10:56,711 --> 01:10:58,247
that they were happy there.
897
01:10:58,713 --> 01:11:00,499
And I think that it has a lot
to do with denial.
898
01:11:00,506 --> 01:11:03,464
I think that is where you reach
the point where you think about...
899
01:11:03,634 --> 01:11:05,716
should you take them to London?
900
01:11:05,803 --> 01:11:09,592
I think it's quite a...
It's a super delicate question.
901
01:11:09,599 --> 01:11:13,058
If you are starting
to change them already...
902
01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:15,055
just bringing them
to the other studio...
903
01:11:15,062 --> 01:11:17,224
just involving them
in a different lifestyle...
904
01:11:17,231 --> 01:11:18,062
in Rio...
905
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:20,481
what's going to happen to them
once you take them...
906
01:11:20,485 --> 01:11:22,067
once you put them on a plane?
907
01:11:22,236 --> 01:11:25,445
You were saying oh this is
going to mess with their minds.
908
01:11:26,073 --> 01:11:27,655
Well, maybe...
909
01:11:27,658 --> 01:11:30,446
their minds
need to be messed up with.
910
01:11:30,536 --> 01:11:32,026
But if take them...
911
01:11:32,038 --> 01:11:35,156
and say hello life is different...
912
01:11:35,166 --> 01:11:36,577
you can do this,
you could do that..
913
01:11:36,751 --> 01:11:38,287
Is it realistic enough...
914
01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:40,661
What can they do...
915
01:11:40,671 --> 01:11:42,582
with that afterwards here?
916
01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:45,378
It is really hard for me
to imagine doing something...
917
01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:47,716
that would do much damage
to them.
918
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,508
Do worse than what has been
done to them already.
919
01:11:51,057 --> 01:11:54,300
Why do you have to take somebody's
life and change it forever?
920
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:56,597
As long as you think
the person can cope with it.
921
01:11:56,604 --> 01:11:57,344
Afterwards.
922
01:11:57,355 --> 01:12:01,519
But if you are not sure
the person can deal with it...
923
01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:02,641
People are fragile.
924
01:12:02,652 --> 01:12:04,063
It is my responsibility.
925
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:06,311
That's what I think.
926
01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:08,275
Your responsibility.
927
01:12:08,282 --> 01:12:09,022
But let me answer that.
928
01:12:09,033 --> 01:12:09,317
Let me talk.
But let me answer that.
929
01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:10,110
Let me talk.
930
01:12:10,117 --> 01:12:10,401
Let me talk.
Let me answer that!
931
01:12:10,409 --> 01:12:11,274
Let me answer that!
932
01:12:11,285 --> 01:12:12,320
You don't let me talk.
933
01:12:12,620 --> 01:12:14,031
You're saying
it is not my responsibility...
934
01:12:14,038 --> 01:12:15,278
He doesn't let me talk!
935
01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:16,074
I am saying it is.
936
01:12:16,082 --> 01:12:18,323
Let me for one moment...
937
01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:19,699
think about something else here.
938
01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:23,795
These guys are going
to the studio...
939
01:12:23,798 --> 01:12:24,583
and they are saying...
940
01:12:24,590 --> 01:12:26,501
"I don't want
to go back to Gramacho."
941
01:12:26,759 --> 01:12:29,421
Is that something bad
one way or another?
942
01:12:29,428 --> 01:12:30,338
No that's good.
943
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:31,552
Isn't this good?
944
01:12:31,556 --> 01:12:33,547
Maybe they will have to go
and they will have to think...
945
01:12:33,558 --> 01:12:35,344
of a plan to get out of there.
946
01:12:35,601 --> 01:12:38,184
They get to see another reality.
947
01:12:38,187 --> 01:12:40,394
And that changes
their way of thinking.
948
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:45,145
It's hard for me.
949
01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:46,608
It changes their way of thinking.
950
01:12:46,612 --> 01:12:47,226
It does.
951
01:12:47,238 --> 01:12:48,694
For some people
it changes their way of thinking...
952
01:12:48,698 --> 01:12:50,359
for some people
953
01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:50,696
they just go to bed better...
954
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:52,361
because they think
they did something.
955
01:12:58,332 --> 01:13:01,575
I don't think if I was a catador
in Jardim Gramacho...
956
01:13:02,044 --> 01:13:06,254
and somebody said to me listen
do you want to come do this thing...
957
01:13:06,257 --> 01:13:07,338
work two weeks...
958
01:13:07,341 --> 01:13:08,376
in an artists studio...
959
01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:09,749
making a portrait of yourself...
960
01:13:10,344 --> 01:13:13,462
and by the way we may
take you to a foreign country...
961
01:13:13,764 --> 01:13:15,505
but at the end of all of this...
962
01:13:15,766 --> 01:13:17,006
you'll be back here...
963
01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:18,554
collecting garbage...
964
01:13:18,561 --> 01:13:19,642
would you like to come?
965
01:13:21,188 --> 01:13:22,724
I know that I would say yes.
966
01:13:28,779 --> 01:13:29,564
Got it.
967
01:13:30,615 --> 01:13:32,606
A year of garbage has gone by.
968
01:13:35,661 --> 01:13:36,446
Let's go.
969
01:13:39,790 --> 01:13:44,626
Here's wisdom a plenty,
nineteen is not twenty.
970
01:13:45,087 --> 01:13:46,703
99 is not 100.
971
01:13:48,716 --> 01:13:49,626
Hi Vik.
972
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,165
It's the Marat that's going?
973
01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:54,173
It's going to be great.
974
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:00,392
I'm already dreaming
about being there.
975
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:05,642
I'm going to London,
and you're not.
976
01:14:30,174 --> 01:14:32,085
Hey what are you doing here man?
977
01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:36,719
Check out that long hair!
978
01:14:48,025 --> 01:14:49,231
There's so much excess.
979
01:14:51,237 --> 01:14:55,276
There's so much excess
that it becomes art.
980
01:15:00,454 --> 01:15:02,036
Check out the garbage bag.
981
01:15:07,378 --> 01:15:09,085
Except you can't open it,
it's made of bronze.
982
01:15:10,381 --> 01:15:13,248
Painted bronze.
983
01:15:14,385 --> 01:15:16,797
Can you tell what's in there?
984
01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:22,595
There are definitely yogurt cups,
hearts of palm.
985
01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:25,518
Some boxes.
986
01:15:25,730 --> 01:15:31,692
Looks like someone bought a new
cell phone and threw away the box.
987
01:15:31,777 --> 01:15:36,613
- It looks like I could just pick it up.
-It's great.
988
01:15:36,615 --> 01:15:39,277
This was made by a British artist
named Gavin Turk.
989
01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:42,781
This guy is a really great artist too.
990
01:15:42,788 --> 01:15:44,370
He used to sleep on the streets.
991
01:15:44,749 --> 01:15:47,286
His name is Jean-Michel Basquiat.
992
01:15:48,002 --> 01:15:54,749
This was done by the guy who is
the most expensive living artist,
993
01:15:54,759 --> 01:15:55,794
Damien Hirst.
994
01:15:58,220 --> 01:15:59,335
It's a pharmacy.
995
01:15:59,346 --> 01:16:01,587
Yeah, just drugs on a shelf.
996
01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:02,805
Just drugs.
997
01:16:05,102 --> 01:16:08,640
It will probably go for about
one million dollars.
998
01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,482
Dermatological cream.
999
01:16:16,447 --> 01:16:18,108
It is a very fine work.
1000
01:16:18,115 --> 01:16:20,197
There is strong demand
for works...
1001
01:16:20,201 --> 01:16:21,532
by Vik Muniz.
1002
01:16:21,619 --> 01:16:24,281
So I do hope obviously
that his risk...
1003
01:16:24,288 --> 01:16:25,449
is going to pay off.
1004
01:16:25,790 --> 01:16:27,030
It's going to work out.
1005
01:16:27,291 --> 01:16:28,372
Let' see.
1006
01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:29,285
It's going to work, come on.
1007
01:16:31,045 --> 01:16:33,582
It's a very bold step...
1008
01:16:33,589 --> 01:16:34,624
for Vik Muniz...
1009
01:16:34,757 --> 01:16:36,418
to consign a work...
1010
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:38,041
directly to an auction.
1011
01:16:38,302 --> 01:16:39,292
In the past...
1012
01:16:39,386 --> 01:16:40,501
artists would go through...
1013
01:16:40,596 --> 01:16:42,178
what you call...
1014
01:16:42,181 --> 01:16:43,342
the primary market.
1015
01:16:43,349 --> 01:16:45,340
They would be sold
for the first time...
1016
01:16:45,351 --> 01:16:46,261
in a gallery.
1017
01:16:48,437 --> 01:16:49,222
Thank you.
1018
01:16:49,522 --> 01:16:52,310
Lot number 225...
1019
01:16:52,733 --> 01:16:54,599
Nine Multi-colored Marilyns...
1020
01:16:54,819 --> 01:16:56,230
by Andy Warhol
1021
01:16:56,529 --> 01:16:59,237
Are you nervous?
I'm really nervous.
1022
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,652
Even when Botafogo plays
for the championship.
1023
01:17:01,659 --> 01:17:03,491
I don't get this nervous.
1024
01:17:03,828 --> 01:17:04,613
Hold on.
1025
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:05,405
Last chance.
1026
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:07,537
Sold. What's your number?
1027
01:17:07,540 --> 01:17:09,030
12.. 5
1028
01:17:09,041 --> 01:17:09,997
Thank you so much.
1029
01:17:10,417 --> 01:17:12,408
It's now, it's now.
1030
01:17:12,419 --> 01:17:12,533
Lot number 272.
It? now, it's now.
1031
01:17:12,545 --> 01:17:15,788
Lot number 272.
1032
01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:19,378
The great work by Vik Muniz.
1033
01:17:19,552 --> 01:17:21,634
Mahrat Sebastiao...
1034
01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:23,253
Pictures of Garbage
1035
01:17:23,264 --> 01:17:25,426
And we will start this...
1036
01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:27,674
at ten thousand pounds.
1037
01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:29,801
10 thousand pound.
1038
01:17:30,271 --> 01:17:32,433
12 thousand pounds.
1039
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,646
14 thousand pounds.
1040
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:35,731
16 thousand pounds.
1041
01:17:35,734 --> 01:17:36,599
18 thousand pounds.
1042
01:17:36,610 --> 01:17:37,600
20 thousand pounds.
1043
01:17:37,611 --> 01:17:38,476
At the far back now.
1044
01:17:38,571 --> 01:17:40,278
20 thousand pounds.
1045
01:17:40,281 --> 01:17:41,271
20 thousand pounds
1046
01:17:41,448 --> 01:17:42,734
22 thousand pounds.
1047
01:17:42,741 --> 01:17:43,401
There is a new bit
1048
01:17:43,409 --> 01:17:45,650
25 thousand pounds.
1049
01:17:45,661 --> 01:17:46,651
Against you, Jenny.
1050
01:17:46,662 --> 01:17:47,743
A 25 mil.
1051
01:17:47,746 --> 01:17:48,656
28 thousand pounds.
1052
01:17:48,831 --> 01:17:50,117
A 28 mil.
1053
01:17:50,124 --> 01:17:51,410
It's against Diego now...
1054
01:17:51,417 --> 01:17:53,249
at 28 thousand pounds.
1055
01:17:53,252 --> 01:17:55,368
It is at the far back of the room...
1056
01:17:55,379 --> 01:17:57,711
at 28 thousand pounds.
1057
01:17:58,424 --> 01:18:00,461
Sold.
1058
01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:11,634
The most important thing is
what you're going to do with this.
1059
01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:17,982
It was all worth it. Everything I did
up until now was really worth it.
1060
01:18:19,445 --> 01:18:21,356
Why do you think you are here?
1061
01:18:24,575 --> 01:18:28,318
Because once a friend and I had
a dream of creating an association.
1062
01:18:29,163 --> 01:18:30,449
We created the association.
1063
01:18:30,456 --> 01:18:34,324
It was a crazy dream.
Nobody believed in us.
1064
01:18:35,419 --> 01:18:36,784
Not even my family.
1065
01:18:38,589 --> 01:18:40,125
Nobody believed in me.
1066
01:18:42,468 --> 01:18:44,050
This is only the beginning Tiao.
1067
01:18:46,722 --> 01:18:48,338
This is only the beginning.
1068
01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:55,394
I am so happy.-
1069
01:18:55,481 --> 01:18:56,471
Are you happy?
1070
01:18:56,690 --> 01:19:01,480
God was so good to me,
so wonderful.
1071
01:19:01,487 --> 01:19:04,980
You're the strong one.
You are doing everything.
1072
01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:07,697
MOM.
1073
01:19:10,537 --> 01:19:12,119
We sold it mom.
1074
01:19:13,749 --> 01:19:16,537
We sold it for US$50,000.
1075
01:19:18,462 --> 01:19:20,078
US$50,000.
1076
01:19:21,674 --> 01:19:24,507
I feel like a pop star.
1077
01:19:27,388 --> 01:19:28,219
Full.
1078
01:19:30,307 --> 01:19:31,047
Yeah.
1079
01:20:50,471 --> 01:20:53,054
Now presenting Lenny Kravitz.
1080
01:20:58,062 --> 01:21:00,053
I want to propose a toast
to my boss.
1081
01:21:00,481 --> 01:21:01,767
- Thank you.
-Thank you.
1082
01:21:03,650 --> 01:21:10,647
Careful. This woman is red hot.
1083
01:21:10,741 --> 01:21:12,106
Tell me what's changed for you.
1084
01:21:13,077 --> 01:21:14,693
I was married
and now I am separated.
1085
01:21:16,121 --> 01:21:17,486
But isn't that bad?
1086
01:21:17,498 --> 01:21:19,159
Not at all. It's wonderful.
1087
01:21:19,458 --> 01:21:22,291
I started to see myself.
1088
01:21:22,461 --> 01:21:24,247
Your own beauty?
1089
01:21:24,254 --> 01:21:25,710
No as a person really.
1090
01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:28,502
Because before I was
just like a little mule.
1091
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:33,720
This job was great. It was really
good and important to me.
1092
01:21:34,014 --> 01:21:35,504
I knew how much I made.
1093
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:41,516
We would weigh the material
every day.
1094
01:21:41,647 --> 01:21:46,483
We supposedly worked together,
but my share was always less.
1095
01:21:46,485 --> 01:21:49,648
He thought
I should be submissive.
1096
01:21:52,116 --> 01:21:53,732
But it doesn't work like that.
1097
01:21:54,326 --> 01:21:56,283
That was the biggest
change in my life.
1098
01:21:56,453 --> 01:21:59,536
That's what this job brought to me.
1099
01:22:00,082 --> 01:22:01,288
The will to change.
1100
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:05,163
So that's the story, this work
brought me this realization.
1101
01:22:11,385 --> 01:22:17,256
What did you think of modern art
before you went to the auction?
1102
01:22:17,641 --> 01:22:20,474
I used to think it was crap.
1103
01:22:24,189 --> 01:22:25,475
Why'd you think it was crap?
1104
01:22:25,482 --> 01:22:27,689
Because I think a lot of things
aren't really art.
1105
01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:30,734
Why don't you think it's art?
Because you don't get it?
1106
01:22:30,737 --> 01:22:34,196
Because I don't get it and
it's totally meaningless.
1107
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,315
But do you think you have
to get it, for it to be art?
1108
01:22:37,077 --> 01:22:39,694
I think it has to communicate
something at least.
1109
01:22:40,998 --> 01:22:44,536
After you told me
the story about...
1110
01:22:46,503 --> 01:22:47,709
Jean-Michel.
1111
01:22:47,713 --> 01:22:48,794
Jean-Michel Basquiat.
1112
01:22:48,797 --> 01:22:52,711
Yeah, I started liking
his stuff a lot more.
1113
01:22:52,718 --> 01:22:57,007
I began to understand his kind of
sinister style.
1114
01:22:58,724 --> 01:23:02,683
It's a bit childish, like monsters.
1115
01:23:02,686 --> 01:23:05,223
I started to understand it
and I liked it.
1116
01:23:05,314 --> 01:23:10,434
But if you're saying you liked
it better after you understood it...
1117
01:23:10,611 --> 01:23:14,605
then maybe we just don't like
things we don't understand.
1118
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:19,279
Of course, you can dislike something
because you haven't tried it.
1119
01:23:19,536 --> 01:23:22,028
For example, you were always
trying to explain what you were doing...
1120
01:23:22,039 --> 01:23:23,245
but I never understood.
1121
01:23:23,999 --> 01:23:25,239
Until you saw it?
1122
01:23:25,250 --> 01:23:28,083
I only understood it when Fabio
brought me up here.
1123
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:33,089
Then I got what you
crazy people were up to.
1124
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:34,756
Then I really got it.
1125
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,218
The crazy people are
the ones who buy it.
1126
01:23:37,221 --> 01:23:39,258
They're not crazy. It's beautiful.
1127
01:23:40,265 --> 01:23:42,097
I'd buy it.
1128
01:23:42,768 --> 01:23:44,634
I'll buy it someday.
I'll buy my picture back.
1129
01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:35,442
- Bye Betania.
-Bye.
1130
01:24:40,701 --> 01:24:42,692
Hello.
1131
01:24:44,621 --> 01:24:46,658
You look like you're getting married.
1132
01:24:48,250 --> 01:24:49,490
Who would marry me?
1133
01:25:02,764 --> 01:25:03,674
That's it.
1134
01:25:04,558 --> 01:25:05,639
Watch the glass.
1135
01:25:06,059 --> 01:25:07,470
Oh my God.
1136
01:25:08,478 --> 01:25:12,062
Look, it's me.
1137
01:25:13,692 --> 01:25:15,023
So good.
1138
01:25:15,777 --> 01:25:17,313
I did the iron, remember?
1139
01:25:17,988 --> 01:25:21,106
I did this.
1140
01:25:21,408 --> 01:25:22,523
Look it's Zumbi.
1141
01:25:22,534 --> 01:25:24,275
It's so beautiful.
1142
01:25:24,453 --> 01:25:27,320
Suelen. It's so vibrant.
1143
01:25:27,331 --> 01:25:27,991
Look it's you.
1144
01:25:30,167 --> 01:25:33,125
Check out the profile.
1145
01:25:34,338 --> 01:25:35,294
It's beautiful.
1146
01:25:35,547 --> 01:25:37,129
Check out, Auntie.
1147
01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:39,419
I did this.
1148
01:25:39,509 --> 01:25:41,716
- You made the pot.
-I did this.
1149
01:25:50,354 --> 01:25:52,436
I was a picker at Jardim Gramacho.
1150
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,806
I was picking garbage when they
asked me to work with them.
1151
01:25:55,025 --> 01:25:57,767
They liked my look, my style.
1152
01:25:57,986 --> 01:26:01,024
At that point,
I didn't even know what this was.
1153
01:26:01,031 --> 01:26:05,150
It's really worthwhile to work
on behalf of the pickers...
1154
01:26:05,369 --> 01:26:08,361
to become recognized as
an official sector...
1155
01:26:08,372 --> 01:26:09,533
of the recyclable
materials industry.
1156
01:26:09,539 --> 01:26:12,782
And it's also worthwhile
becoming a work of art.
1157
01:26:12,793 --> 01:26:15,785
We support ourselves
with this material.
1158
01:26:16,421 --> 01:26:18,537
And we managed to transform
that material into art...
1159
01:26:18,799 --> 01:26:23,794
and into the opportunity to be
in the Museum of Modern Art.
1160
01:26:23,804 --> 01:26:25,545
I've never been to a museum.
1161
01:26:26,056 --> 01:26:29,139
I never dreamed there would
be a picture of me in a museum.
1162
01:26:29,142 --> 01:26:31,804
Sometimes we see
ourselves as so small...
1163
01:26:31,812 --> 01:26:35,430
but people out there see
us as so big, so beautiful.
1164
01:26:36,817 --> 01:26:39,650
There she is. You look so fancy.
1165
01:26:39,653 --> 01:26:40,768
Are you happy?
1166
01:26:40,779 --> 01:26:42,190
Very happy-
1167
01:26:45,534 --> 01:26:49,118
Don't cry, Sister.
Now's the time to be happy.
1168
01:26:53,792 --> 01:26:55,749
I'd rather want everything
and have nothing...
1169
01:26:55,752 --> 01:26:58,585
than have everything
and want nothing.
1170
01:26:59,214 --> 01:27:04,630
Because at least when you want
something your life has a meaning,
1171
01:27:05,345 --> 01:27:07,632
it's worthwhile.
1172
01:27:08,306 --> 01:27:11,594
From the moment you think
you have everything
1173
01:27:11,601 --> 01:27:16,016
you have to search
for meaning in other things.
1174
01:27:16,356 --> 01:27:19,599
I spent half my life wanting
everything and having nothing.
1175
01:27:20,026 --> 01:27:24,270
And now I have everything and
I don't want anything.
1176
01:27:26,491 --> 01:27:29,358
These days I'm starting to see
things in a simpler way.
1177
01:27:31,246 --> 01:27:36,241
I don't have as much material
ambition as I used to.
1178
01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:43,839
When I was poor I only
wanted material things.
1179
01:27:44,217 --> 01:27:45,378
I just wanted to have things.
1180
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:49,845
I had to buy a lot of crap
to get rid of that complex.
1181
01:27:58,732 --> 01:28:00,518
I knew that I could do the work.
1182
01:28:04,154 --> 01:28:08,318
Bt I did not count as being as involved...
with the people that I was working with as I did.
1183
01:28:09,284 --> 01:28:11,275
It just was impossible not to.
1184
01:28:12,204 --> 01:28:14,070
I thought I could just go there...
1185
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,117
and paint Jardim Gramacho...
1186
01:28:16,124 --> 01:28:18,331
like Cezanne went to paint...
1187
01:28:18,502 --> 01:28:20,084
Monte Saint-Victoire.
1188
01:28:20,086 --> 01:28:23,454
You know be cool about it.
1189
01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:26,173
And try to just do my work...
1190
01:28:26,176 --> 01:28:28,292
and look at it as a representation.
1191
01:28:28,303 --> 01:28:29,213
It's not.
1192
01:28:30,514 --> 01:28:32,050
It's a lot more than that.
1193
01:28:32,057 --> 01:28:34,298
Because it has it's human side...
1194
01:28:34,559 --> 01:28:36,766
that a picture
can not really translate.
1195
01:28:39,064 --> 01:28:40,054
It could be me.
1196
01:28:41,566 --> 01:28:44,058
I mean from the stories...
1197
01:28:44,069 --> 01:28:45,400
these people tell...
1198
01:28:45,570 --> 01:28:49,780
a lot of them they were
low middle class people...
1199
01:28:51,743 --> 01:28:52,778
that for some unfortunate event...
1200
01:28:52,786 --> 01:28:56,279
they just ended up having to go
there and live in the garbage.
1201
01:28:56,706 --> 01:28:59,289
I was born in a low...
1202
01:28:59,292 --> 01:29:01,078
middle class house hold in Brazil.
1203
01:29:01,419 --> 01:29:03,706
If something had happened
to my parents...
1204
01:29:04,506 --> 01:29:07,294
I could be led to a life like that.
1205
01:29:09,094 --> 01:29:11,677
If you can put yourself
in their own shoes...
1206
01:29:11,763 --> 01:29:13,595
if your living life...
1207
01:29:13,598 --> 01:29:16,431
and figuring out what to do
to just continue living...
1208
01:29:16,601 --> 01:29:17,636
it's very hard.
1209
01:29:17,644 --> 01:29:18,725
But on the other hand...
1210
01:29:18,728 --> 01:29:20,344
when you see
the appetite for life...
1211
01:29:20,355 --> 01:29:21,470
these people have...
1212
01:29:22,190 --> 01:29:24,101
and the way
they carry themselves...
1213
01:29:24,109 --> 01:29:25,645
it inspires you.
1214
01:29:41,668 --> 01:29:43,750
I start thinking about...
1215
01:29:43,753 --> 01:29:45,494
how to help people
and all of a sudden...
1216
01:29:45,505 --> 01:29:47,371
I feel very arrogant.
1217
01:29:47,382 --> 01:29:49,168
Who am I to help anybody?
1218
01:29:49,175 --> 01:29:50,461
Because in the end...
1219
01:29:50,468 --> 01:29:52,755
I feel like I am being helped
more than they are.
1220
01:29:56,099 --> 01:29:58,340
Even if everything went wrong...
1221
01:29:58,768 --> 01:30:00,475
you could still be like them.
1222
01:30:01,438 --> 01:30:02,394
And they're beautiful.
1223
01:30:02,397 --> 01:30:04,104
They're great people.
1224
01:30:07,319 --> 01:30:09,401
They just weren't very lucky...
1225
01:30:10,155 --> 01:30:11,645
but we're going to change that.
1226
01:30:14,743 --> 01:30:16,654
I can't believe it.
1227
01:30:18,413 --> 01:30:20,074
What's this, man?
1228
01:30:21,207 --> 01:30:25,417
Hang this on these humble walls,
this work of art?
1229
01:30:27,088 --> 01:30:31,673
You can't even
hang a picture right.
1230
01:30:34,137 --> 01:30:35,423
Check it out.
1231
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:37,216
It's your dad.
1232
01:30:37,641 --> 01:30:38,255
That's it.
1233
01:30:38,266 --> 01:30:39,427
That's beautiful.
1234
01:30:46,066 --> 01:30:47,272
Right next to my mother-in-law.
1235
01:30:49,736 --> 01:30:53,604
Look who's it is.
1236
01:30:55,116 --> 01:30:56,447
Is it you?
1237
01:31:01,206 --> 01:31:02,241
I have to get a nail.
1238
01:31:13,468 --> 01:31:14,674
I'm shaking.
1239
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,766
It's so beautiful. It's me, it's me.
1240
01:31:27,357 --> 01:31:28,267
I love it.
1241
01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:35,070
You have no idea
what this means to me.
1242
01:31:41,204 --> 01:31:47,200
When I went to work there,
I was too ashamed to tell anybody.
1243
01:31:47,293 --> 01:31:51,628
I tried to hide it from my family
the best I could.
1244
01:31:51,715 --> 01:31:53,251
After I worked with Vik Muniz...
1245
01:31:53,258 --> 01:31:56,501
I went to everybody and
told them I worked at the landfill.
1246
01:31:56,511 --> 01:32:00,379
It was one of life's consequences.
1247
01:32:01,474 --> 01:32:03,090
And I was no longer ashamed.
1248
01:32:03,476 --> 01:32:07,595
This image has traveled all over.
To China, Japan.
1249
01:32:07,605 --> 01:32:11,314
I didn't go, but it did.
I'm famous out there.
1250
01:32:11,443 --> 01:32:14,481
When I saw it being made,
it was very big.
1251
01:32:14,487 --> 01:32:17,570
Now it got smaller.
1252
01:32:18,324 --> 01:32:21,658
In the studio it looked huge.
1253
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,579
See if it's good.
Here? Here?
1254
01:32:29,419 --> 01:32:30,659
Don't scratch my picture.
1255
01:32:30,754 --> 01:32:32,290
The back doesn't matter.
1256
01:32:36,176 --> 01:32:37,416
You did a good job Vik.
1257
01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:39,293
Now you're famous in Santa Cruz.
1258
01:32:39,304 --> 01:32:40,760
They're talking about you here.
1259
01:32:42,432 --> 01:32:46,517
- Did you do that?
-Yes, with everyone's help.
1260
01:32:48,188 --> 01:32:50,395
Remember that big pot I had?
1261
01:32:50,607 --> 01:32:52,814
That's the one they used.
1262
01:32:52,817 --> 01:32:56,401
You know how I became
famous all over the world?
1263
01:32:56,404 --> 01:32:59,237
Inside the garbage.
1264
01:32:59,407 --> 01:33:03,492
I started there almost
thirty years ago.
1265
01:33:03,620 --> 01:33:04,610
I like it there.
1266
01:33:04,621 --> 01:33:06,783
My life began there, thank God.
1267
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:09,282
I'm famous worldwide
because of that place.
1268
01:33:09,417 --> 01:33:11,033
That's where
everything started for me.
1269
01:33:22,263 --> 01:33:25,472
Vik's retrospective show broke
all attendance records in Brazil.
1270
01:33:25,475 --> 01:33:27,136
Over a million people
went to see the show...
1271
01:33:27,143 --> 01:33:29,430
making it second only
in popularity to Picasso.
1272
01:33:30,772 --> 01:33:32,388
Vik raised over $250,000...
1273
01:33:32,398 --> 01:33:34,685
with more sales of prints from
"Pictures of Garbage" portraits.
1274
01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:38,481
Thanks to these funds and Tiao's
efforts, ACAMJG has bought a truck...
1275
01:33:38,488 --> 01:33:39,273
and equipment, and opened
a learning center.
1276
01:33:41,491 --> 01:33:42,606
ACAMJG will be working...
1277
01:33:42,617 --> 01:33:45,735
to provide education
and skills training...
1278
01:33:45,745 --> 01:33:47,611
to the catadores
to help with this transition.
1279
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:49,780
It has been announced that Jardim
Gramacho will close in 2012.
1280
01:33:50,291 --> 01:33:51,497
Zumbi's dream has been realized.
1281
01:33:51,501 --> 01:33:53,583
A library has been inaugurate...
1282
01:33:53,586 --> 01:33:55,497
at the ACAMJG office,
with 15 computers.
1283
01:33:55,505 --> 01:33:57,792
Zumbi's new dream
is to visit Africa...
1284
01:33:58,258 --> 01:33:59,623
to explore his roots.
1285
01:33:59,634 --> 01:34:02,171
Magna is single and working
in a drugstore...
1286
01:34:02,178 --> 01:34:04,044
where she enjoys regular
working hours...
1287
01:34:04,055 --> 01:34:05,762
and time at home
with her son.
1288
01:34:05,765 --> 01:34:07,426
She wants everyone to know...
1289
01:34:07,433 --> 01:34:09,470
that they are very happy.
1290
01:34:09,477 --> 01:34:14,017
Sister still lives in Gramacho
and set up...
1291
01:34:14,023 --> 01:34:17,482
her own small cooking business
with the proceeds from the project.
1292
01:34:17,485 --> 01:34:19,442
She has since returned to Gramacho
as she misses her colleagues.
1293
01:34:19,445 --> 01:34:21,777
Isis re-married,
completed a secretarial course...
1294
01:34:21,781 --> 01:34:23,271
and is looking for a job.
1295
01:34:23,283 --> 01:34:26,241
She went and found her ex-husband
and daughter, but they refused to see her.
1296
01:34:26,244 --> 01:34:29,407
She is never going back
to Jardim Gramacho.
1297
01:34:29,414 --> 01:34:32,702
Suelen is 19 years old
and had her third child, a boy.
1298
01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:36,202
She lives together with the father,
who supports her...
1299
01:34:36,212 --> 01:34:39,045
to stay at home
and take care of her children.
1300
01:34:50,602 --> 01:34:54,721
Walter died shortly after
meeting Vik, from cancer.
1301
01:34:55,732 --> 01:34:57,564
He kept working
almost up until his death.
1302
01:34:57,567 --> 01:34:59,433
He is much missed and often
quoted at Jardim Gramacho.
1303
01:34:59,444 --> 01:35:02,436
The catadores say he helped
everyone make good decisions...
1304
01:35:02,447 --> 01:35:06,486
and remember him saying
99 is not 100.
1305
01:35:23,009 --> 01:35:28,379
He is President of the Association of
Garbage Pickers of Jardim Gramacho.
1306
01:35:28,723 --> 01:35:32,307
And his portrait was a big success
at an auction in London.
1307
01:35:32,393 --> 01:35:33,474
Tifio Santos.
1308
01:35:47,367 --> 01:35:49,074
At what age did you start working?
1309
01:35:49,452 --> 01:35:50,533
Since I was 11.
1310
01:35:51,162 --> 01:35:54,530
- Since you were 11. At the landfill?
-Yes, at the landfill.
1311
01:35:54,540 --> 01:35:56,201
- Can I just correct you on one point?
-Of course.
1312
01:35:56,292 --> 01:35:58,750
We are not pickers of garbage, we
are pickers of recyclable materials.
1313
01:35:58,753 --> 01:36:02,121
Garbage can't be reused,
whereas recyclable materials can.
1314
01:36:11,182 --> 01:36:14,425
With Tiao's leadership,
ACAMJG is now a leading part...
1315
01:36:14,435 --> 01:36:17,803
of the national and international
movement of recyclable materials pickers...
1316
01:36:17,814 --> 01:36:21,057
which held their first meeting
in Sao Paulo in October 2009.
1317
01:36:22,026 --> 01:36:25,564
A lot of people now believe in Tiao
and look to him as a leader.
1318
01:36:25,571 --> 01:36:33,194
Some dream that one day
he could become president.
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