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[ SIREN WAILS ]

Joe: SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

THERE IS A GUY
WHO HAS BEEN ARRESTED,

AND HE'S CURRENTLY
IN THE KING COUNTY JAIL.

HE SAID IT WAS A NICE NIGHT.
HE'S HAVING A GOOD TIME.

THE DETECTIVES ARE BOTH
LOOKING AT EACH OTHER,

AND THEY'RE BOTH THINKING
THE SAME THING.

WE MIGHT BE DEALING
WITH A SERIAL KILLER HERE.

HEY, HELP!

I SPENT MY CAREER
CLOSING MURDER CASES.

BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE
WHO ANSWERED THE CALL.

IT TAKES A RARE BREED
TO SOLVE THE INSOLVABLE...

TO CATCH A RUTHLESS KILLER...

TO FIND JUSTICE FOR THE DEAD.

THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES
TO BE AN AMERICAN DETECTIVE.

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Steiger:
MY NAME IS CLOYD STEIGER.

I RETIRED IN 2016

AFTER 36 YEARS WITH
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I SPENT THE LAST 22 YEARS OF
THOSE AS A HOMICIDE DETECTIVE.

I WORKED ON ABOUT 250 MURDERS.

♪♪

[ WHISTLE BLOWS ]

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

I WAS AT MY SON'S
WRESTLING TOURNAMENT.

AND JUST GETTING STARTED,
AND MY PHONE RANG.

[ CELLPHONE RINGING ]

IT WAS THE SERGEANT.

HE SAID, "WE'VE GOT A WOMAN
THERE WITH HER THROAT CUT."

I WENT, "WELL, SHE PROBABLY
DIDN'T CUT HER OWN THROAT.

I'M ON MY WAY IN."

[ ENGINE STARTS ]

WHEN I HEARD WHERE THE BODY
WAS FOUND, I KNEW THE AREA.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

IT'S INDUSTRIAL.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY CITY SHOPS
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET,

WHERE WE GET OUR POLICE CARS
WORKED ON.

SO I WAS VERY FAMILIAR
WITH THE AREA.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

Joe: IT'S A DANGEROUS AND
INFAMOUS AREA

IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE,
KNOWN AS THE JUNGLE.

THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT
THE JUNGLE, I WAS INTRIGUED.

IT'S CALLED THE JUNGLE, REALLY,

BECAUSE IT'S
THIS STRETCH OF WOODS

THAT'S A LARGE,
LAWLESS HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.

IT IS A GATHERING AREA
FOR THE LOST SOULS OF SEATTLE --

PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORED
BY SOCIETY,

WHO LIVE A LIFE DIFFERENT
THAN ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE,

WHO LIVE IN AN AREA OF CRIME,
DRUG ADDICTION, AND VIOLENCE

IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR CITY.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

Steiger:
SO I PULLED UP ON THE SCENE,
AND IT WAS BITTERLY COLD.

I'VE WORKED MORE THAN TWO
OR THREE MURDERS

THAT HAVE ORIGINATED
IN THE JUNGLE.

Joe: STEIGER IS ABOUT AS
QUALIFIED AS YOU CAN BE

IN THE MURDER BUSINESS.

HE HAS A PASSION FOR IT.

HE'S SMART, INSTINCTIVE,
AND EXTREMELY WELL EXPERIENCED.

IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY
TO INVESTIGATE A MURDER,

HE'D BE YOUR GUY.

Steiger:
WHAT DO WE GOT?

THEY REPORT THAT THERE IS
A FEMALE, PHYSICALLY SMALL.

SHE'S SITTING ON THE STAIRCASE.
AND HER THROAT HAS BEEN SLASHED.

SHE HAS BLED OUT, AND
SHE'S BEEN DEAD FOR SOME TIME.

THEY ALSO SAY THERE'S A WITNESS
WHO SAW HER SITTING THERE

AND WAS THE PERSON
WHO CALLED THE POLICE

TO DRAW THEIR ATTENTION
TO THIS WOMAN.

Steiger: HE WAS IN THE BACK
OF A PATROL CAR.

THE GUY WHO LOOKED
LIKE A TRANSIENT.

THEY SAID HE'S GOT BLOOD
ON HIS CLOTHING.

OF COURSE, THAT PIQUED
MY INTEREST RIGHT AWAY.

ALL OF THE CRIME SCENE
WAS CONTAINED BY THIS STAIRCASE.

I DIDN'T GO DOWN THE STAIRWELL.
WE DON'T DO THAT.

YOU STAND UP THERE
AND YOU MAKE YOUR OBSERVATIONS,

AND NOBODY TOUCHES THE BODY

UNTIL THE MEDICAL EXAMINER
GETS THERE.

THAT'S THEIR JURISDICTION.

I SAW THAT THIS WOMAN
WAS KIND OF CURLED UP

AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS,

I COULD SEE BLOOD ON
THE MATTRESS, BLOOD AROUND HER.

IT WAS A MESS DOWN THERE.

Joe: HE NOTICES ONE
EXTERIOR PAIR OF PANTS,

BUT THERE ARE OTHER PANTS
UNDER THAT PAIR OF PANTS.

SO SHE HAS THE APPEARANCE
OF SOMEONE

WHO PROBABLY LIVES
IN THE JUNGLE,

BECAUSE
SHE'S DRESSED THAT WAY.

LaVoice: IT JUST KIND OF PAINTS
THIS PICTURE OF THIS YOUNG WOMAN

WHO WAS LIVING ON THE STREETS
IN A REALLY HARD TIME,

WHO WAS JUST DOING
HER BEST TO SURVIVE.

Man: HER SHOELACES.

Steiger: I SAW
HER SHOES WERE OFF,

AND ONE OF OUR SHOELACES
WAS UNTIED.

THE TAKING THE SHOE OFF
WAS OBVIOUSLY DELIBERATE.

WHY WOULD SOMEONE TAKE THE SHOE
OFF IN THAT COLD WEATHER?

SHE CERTAINLY
DIDN'T DO IT HERSELF.

STEIGER MAKES A MENTAL NOTE
OF THAT,

BUT HE KNOWS IT'S UNUSUAL.

AND ANYTHING UNUSUAL
IS WORTH PAYING ATTENTION TO.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

[ SIREN WAILS ]

LATER THAT DAY,
STEIGER HAS THE ARRIVAL

OF A FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST
AT THE SCENE

FROM
THE SEATTLE CORONER'S OFFICE,

AND THEY TOGETHER
EXAMINE THE REMAINS.

LaVoice: SHE'S
A NATIVE AMERICAN WOMAN

WHO LOOKS TO BE QUITE YOUNG.

THEY THINK SHE MIGHT ACTUALLY
BE A TEENAGER.

I COULD SEE DEVASTATING
THROAT SLASHING.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

IT GOT ALL OF HER MAJOR VESSELS
IN HER NECK.

AND THEN ONE THAT WENT
THROUGH HER CHEEK,

AND IT WAS ALL THE WAY --
ALMOST ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

Joe: SO YOU HAVE SOMEONE PLAYING
WITH HER SHOELACES,

AND THEN IT GOES INTO THIS
VIOLENT RAGE INVOLVING A KNIFE.

THE KNIFE ISN'T FOUND
AT THE CRIME SCENE.

Steiger:
MY IMPRESSION WAS SOMETHING TO
DO WITH PROSTITUTION OR DRUGS,

MAYBE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THING.

BUT YOU GOT TO GO
WITH THE FLOW.

YOU GOT TO GO
WHERE THE EVIDENCE TAKES YOU.

Joe: THIS PERSON, WHICH IS NOT
UNCOMMON FOR A LIKELY RESIDENT

OF THE JUNGLE, CARRIES
NO IDENTIFICATION WHATSOEVER.

Steiger: SO, WHEN THAT HAPPENS,
YOU HAVE TO WAIT

UNTIL SHE'S FINGERPRINTED,
TO FIND OUT WHO SHE IS.

THE MEDICAL EXAMINER TOLD ME,

"I'LL DO THE AUTOPSY
ON MONDAY MORNING."

I SAID, "I'LL SEE YOU THERE."
AND THEN HE TOOK HER AWAY.

SO, THE WITNESS
WHO FOUND THIS GIRL,

HIS NAME
IS WILLIAM GILMER.

STEIGER LOOKS AT THIS WITNESS,
AND HE HAS BLOOD ON HIS CLOTHES.

NOW, THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

HE HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH REASON
TO BELIEVE

THAT THIS MAN
COULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS.

SOMETIMES I'LL TALK TO THEM
RIGHT THERE.

BUT BECAUSE
THIS GUY HAD BLOOD ON HIM,

I WANTED TO BE
A LITTLE MORE ELABORATE.

CAN YOU RIDE HIM DOWN
TO HOMICIDE FOR ME?

AND I SAID, "WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE YOU DOWN TO MY OFFICE.

I'LL GET YOU A CUP OF COFFEE
OR SOMETHING,

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT."

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[ DOOR OPENS, SHUTS ]

THE BEST INTERROGATIONS
ARE THE ONES

WHERE THE SUSPECT DOESN'T KNOW
HE'S BEING INTERROGATED.

I'M GONNA RECORD
OUR CONVERSATION.

IS THAT OKAY?

IT'S JUST
A CONVERSATION, RIGHT?

Joe: HE IS
A RESIDENT OF THE JUNGLE.

Steiger:
HE HAD BEEN BY THERE EARLIER.

HE WAS LOOKING
FOR SOMEPLACE TO SLEEP.

AND HE'S PROBABLY SLEPT DOWN
THAT STAIRWELL BEFORE.

HEY!

Steiger: HE COULD
SEE SOMEONE DOWN THERE.

AND HE GOES, "HEY, HEY!"

Joe: HE NOTICES
THAT SHE HASN'T MOVED.

HE GETS CLOSER TO HER

AND REALIZES SHE'S COVERED
IN BLOOD,

AND THAT SHE'S DEAD.

AND HE IS TAKEN ABACK.

HEY!

HE GOES INTO THAT BUILDING,

WHICH IS A DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS HALFWAY HOUSE,

AND OF COURSE, THEY CALL 911.

AND HERE COMES
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

Steiger:
I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE BLOOD.

GILMER SAYS HE GOT
IN A FIST FIGHT WITH A GUY...

...GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH.

THEY BEAT EACH OTHER UP,

AND THAT BLOOD
IS NOT ONLY HIS, FROM HIS MOUTH,

BUT ALSO SOME
FROM THE OTHER GUY.

I SAID, "SO, THERE'S NO CHANCE
IN THE WORLD

THAT THAT IS HER BLOOD?"
AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID,

"THERE IS NO CHANCE IN THE WORLD
THAT THAT IS HER BLOOD."

SAID IT VERY CONFIDENTLY,
VERY MATTER-OF-FACTLY,

AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO
SWAB YOUR HANDS.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE
YOUR CLOTHING

BECAUSE YOU HAVE BLOOD ON IT."
"OKAY."

"I'LL GIVE YOU
SOMETHING ELSE TO WEAR."

Joe: SO THEY DO TAKE
HIS CLOTHING FOR TESTING,

AND IT IS DETERMINED

THAT THAT'S NOT
THE BLOOD OF THE VICTIM.

Steiger:
HE WAS PERFECTLY COOPERATIVE,
HAD NO PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING,

ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS
HONESTLY,

AND HAD NO HESITATION,
SO...

...EVENTUALLY, WE ELIMINATED HIM
AS A SUSPECT.

Joe: STEIGER IS EXPERIENCED
AND HE'S SMART,

AND HE'S THINKING
ABOUT THIS GIRL,

"HOW DID SHE COME TO BE MURDERED
IN A STAIRWELL

NEXT TO THE JUNGLE?"

Steiger:
AND I REMEMBERED BACK,

I THINK IT WAS
IN SEPTEMBER THAT YEAR,

THAT THERE'D BEEN
A MURDER OF A WOMAN,

AN UNSOLVED AT THAT POINT.

THAT ALSO HAPPENED
IN THE JUNGLE.

Joe: SO HE DECIDES
THAT IT'S IN HIS INTEREST

TO REVIEW THAT CASE AND SEE
IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISONS

BETWEEN THAT EVENT
AND THIS EVENT.

SO HE GOES
AND LOOKS AT THAT REPORT.

AND I LOOKED OVER THE
PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CRIME SCENE.

Joe: AND HE'S
LOOKING THROUGH THEM

UNTIL HE COMES
TO A CERTAIN PHOTOGRAPH.

AND HE ALMOST DROPS
HIS HEAD ON THE DESK.

DENISE HARRIS' CASE.

SHE WAS TIED UP
WITH HER OWN SHOELACES.

Joe: THAT HITS STEIGER
LIKE A LIGHTNING BOLT.

Steiger: THE FACT THAT MY
VICTIM'S SHOE WAS EVEN OFF,

THAT MEANS THAT SOMEBODY TOOK
THAT SHOE OFF FOR A REASON.

AND YOU WOULDN'T JUST TAKE
YOUR SHOES OFF

IN THAT COLD WEATHER LIKE THAT.

SOMETHING WAS GOING ON

Joe: IN HOMICIDE,
YOU LEARN VERY QUICKLY,

THERE'S NO SUCH THING
AS A COINCIDENCE.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

♪♪

Joe: DETECTIVE STEIGER IS
DEALING WITH THE HOMICIDE

OF AN UNKNOWN FEMALE

CLOSE TO THE JUNGLE
IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

HEY.
HEY.

MIKE CIESYNSKI
WAS A LEAD DETECTIVE

IN THE DENISE HARRIS MURDER,

WHICH IS AN UNSOLVED
AT THAT POINT.

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

MY IMPRESSION WAS,
THIS IS RELATED.

SO I SHOWED HIM PICTURES
OF MY CASE,

WE WENT INTO HOMICIDE
AROUND THE SAME TIME.

HIM JUST A LITTLE BEFORE ME.

I THINK HE WAS
SIX MONTHS BEFORE ME.

Steiger: BESIDES THE FACT
THAT THE SHOE LACES WERE UNDONE,

THE OTHER THING THAT LED ME
TO THINK

THESE COULD POSSIBLY BE RELATED
WAS THE GEOGRAPHIC PROXIMITY.

THEY WERE
VERY CLOSE TOGETHER,

PROBABLY LIKE 800
OR 900 YARDS AWAY.

Joe: CIESYNSKI TELLS HIM
HIS VICTIM, DENISE HARRIS,

IS 42 YEARS OLD
AND SHE WAS A SCHOOLTEACHER.

DENISE'S MOTHER
LIVED IN CALIFORNIA.

I WAS ABLE TO CONTACT HER.

DENISE HAD SEEMED TO BE BATTLING
SOME SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS.

DENISE HAD A HOME.
SHE HAD A HOME HERE IN SEATTLE.

SHE HAD A FIANCé.
SHE ALSO HAD A CAREER.

AND HER FIANCé
DESCRIBES THIS WOMAN

THAT HAS THESE
CAREER ASPIRATIONS,

BUT SHE'S A VICTIM TO ADDICTION.

THE ADDICTION COMPLETELY
CONTROLLED HER LIFE.

Joe: DENISE WOUND UP LOSING
HER EMPLOYMENT

AND ULTIMATELY LOST HER LIFE
IN THE JUNGLE.

DENISE'S BODY WAS FOUND
LYING ON HER BACK,

AND I COULD TELL
FROM HER CLOTHES

THAT SHE WAS DRAGGED
A SHORT DISTANCE.

SHE WAS WEARING
A SMALL ZIP-UP JACKET

AND WHITE TENNIS SHOES

THAT DID NOT HAVE THE LACES
IN THEM.

HER MURDER WAS HORRIFIC.

HER HANDS AND HER FEET

ARE BOUND TOGETHER
BY HER OWN SHOELACES,

AND SHE HAS A BELT
TIED AROUND HER NECK.

SHE ALSO HAS HER OWN BRA
STUFFED IN HER MOUTH AS A GAG.

WHOEVER DID THIS
REALLY PUT TIME INTO IT

AND DID IT
IN A REALLY SADISTIC WAY.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

Ciesynski: THE FIRST THING
YOU'RE THINKING IS,

"WHAT'S A GIRL LIKE THIS
DOING UP IN THE JUNGLE?"

AND SHE WAS REALLY CLOSE
TO A CAMPSITE.

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

ANOTHER THING THAT WAS
VERY INTERESTING

WAS THERE WAS A BEER CAN.

IT WAS ABOUT HEAD-HIGH.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT.

AND THEY GO,
"WHY DO WE WANT THAT?"

I GO, "NAH, YOU KNOW WE GOT
PICTURES OF ALL THESE OTHER.

I SAID, "I JUST WANT TO
TAKE THAT PICTURE.

IT KIND OF STANDS OUT TO ME."

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

♪♪

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

AT THAT POINT OF OUR
INVESTIGATION,

I DID NOT HAVE ANY SUSPECTS,

BUT I WAS DOING
A LOT OF RUNNING AROUND.

WE WERE SHAKING A LOT OF TREES.
COMES WITH THE TERRITORY.

Joe: HERE WE HAVE
A SITUATION --

AND THIS IS WHAT YOU THINK
ABOUT AS A DETECTIVE --

"WHAT FACTS CONNECT
ONE TO THE OTHER?

IS THERE
A SERIES OF DOTS HERE?

CAN WE PUT A LINE
BETWEEN THOSE DOTS?"

Steiger:
AT THAT POINT, I WASN'T
CONVINCED THEY WERE RELATED,

BUT I WANTED TO KEEP
THAT POSSIBILITY OPEN.

ALRIGHT, MIKE,
I'LL BE IN TOUCH.

DETECTIVE STEIGER,
FIRST AND FOREMOST,

NEEDS TO KNOW
WHO HIS VICTIM IS,

TO REALLY BE ABLE
TO BEGIN THE INVESTIGATION.

HE NEEDS A CLEARER PICTURE

OF EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.

SO HE HEADS TO
THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE,

Steiger: FINDING OUT WHO SHE
IS WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHERE DO WE GO?

I WAS CONFIDENT, BY MID-MORNING,
I'D KNOW WHO SHE WAS, AND I DID.

SO, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY
THE BODY.

Joe: THE CORNER
INFORMS STEIGER

THAT HE HAS IDENTIFIED HER
BY HER FINGERPRINTS,

BECAUSE THERE
IS A POLICE RECORD.

WE IDENTIFIED HER
AS OLIVIA SMITH.

Joe: SHE IS
ALMOST 28 YEARS OLD.

SHE WOULD BE 28 IN ANOTHER
MONTH, HAD SHE SURVIVED.

WHEN I LOOKED AT HER RECORD,

IT WAS EVERYTHING
I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED.

DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, YOU KNOW,
OTHER THINGS, ASSAULT.

SHE HAS LED A TRAGIC LIFE.

SHE DABBLES IN NARCOTICS,
RECREATIONAL USE,

WHICH BECOMES AN ADDICTION,

WHICH RESULTS IN HER SPIRALING
INTO THE STATE OF PROSTITUTION,

OF PETTY THEFT,
TO SUPPORT THE DRUG HABIT,

AND ALLOWS HER
TO WIND UP IN THE JUNGLE.

HOW DID SHE DIE?

SEVERED CAROTID ARTERY.

CAUSE OF DEATH -
EXSANGUINATION,

MEANING THE VICTIM
BLED TO DEATH.

THAT OCCURS IN LESS
THAN TWO MINUTES.

HE THEN LOOKS
AT OTHER STAB WOUNDS.

THIS PERSON HAS BEEN STABBED
IN THE CHEST

AND SEVEN TIMES IN THE BUTTOCKS.

NOW, WHY
WOULD SOMEBODY DO THAT?

THAT'S UNUSUAL.

Steiger: WHEN I SEE THE WOUNDS
THAT SHE SUFFERED IN THIS,

IT WAS A VERY QUICK
AND VERY VIOLENT ATTACK.

Joe:
YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER,

"IS SOMEONE
TORTURING THIS VICTIM?"

IS THIS LIKE A CAT PLAYING
WITH A MOUSE?

NO, HE'S DOING WHAT HE DOES.

BUT WHY WOULD SOMEBODY PLAY
WITH A SHOELACE

WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT KILLING SOMEONE?

HE'S GOING TO SEXUALLY ASSAULT
THEM, PROBABLY.

FIRST PAIR OF PANTS IS
UNBUTTONED, THE REST AREN'T YET.

AND THEN THIS KNIFE APPEARS
BY HER,

PROBABLY, AND SHE DRAWS IT

TO TRY TO FEND HIM OFF,
AND IT ENRAGES HIM.

HE STABS, HE CUTS, HE SLASHES.

AND HE RUNS.

Steiger:
THE MEDICAL EXAMINER

POINTED OUT A TATTOO ON HER ARM
THAT SAID, "TAYLOR."

Joe: PEOPLE GET ART ON THEIR
BODIES FOR A REASON.

IT'S NOT RANDOM.
TAYLOR IS SOMEONE

OF IMPORTANCE TO THIS GIRL.

WHO IS TAYLOR?

STEIGER FINDS
OLIVIA SMITH'S FAMILY.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS.

THEY HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER
IN SOME TIME.

THEY KNEW SHE HAD
FALLEN ON HARD TIMES.

THEY WANTED TO PREVENT THAT
AND COULDN'T.

SHE REALLY WAS
A WONDERFUL PERSON.

[ SOBBING ]

NOTHING EVER WORKED OUT
FOR HER.

THEY'RE NOT
NECESSARILY SURPRISED

BECAUSE OF OUR LIFESTYLE,

BUT THEY WERE
DEVASTATED NONETHELESS.

Joe: HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION
ULTIMATELY

IS A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION.

WHO COULD HAVE DONE THIS,

WHO MIGHT HAVE A REASON
TO DO IT,

AND ULTIMATELY
WHO ACTUALLY DID IT?

LaVoice: OLIVIA
WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP,

THE MAN WHO HAD BEEN
ABUSIVE TO HER

AND HAD THREATENED
TO KILL HER.

Joe: STEIGER ASKED,
"WHAT IS HIS NAME?"

AND THE MOTHER SAYS, "HIS NAME
IS TAYLOR SHAW."

STEIGER, OF COURSE,
THINKS BACK TO THE AUTOPSY.

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT TATTOO
HAS JUST BEEN REVEALED.

TAYLOR WAS, AT ONE POINT,
HER LOVER,

AND SHE CARRIED HIS NAME
ON HER BODY IN A TATTOO.

I'M TRULY SORRY FOR THE LOSS.

I'LL LET MYSELF OUT.

♪♪

Steiger:
THE FAMILY DIDN'T KNOW
MUCH ABOUT HIM,

SO I ACTUALLY HAD TO LOOK
FOR OTHER REPORTS

WHERE HE HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AGAINST HER.

OLIVIA SMITH,
IN THE RECENT PAST, HAD FILED

A PROTECTION ORDER
AGAINST TAYLOR SHAW

TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM HER.

NOT ONLY HAD HE THREATENED
TO KILL OLIVIA,

BUT HE HAD ACTUALLY
THREATENED TO STAB HER.

Steiger: I FOUND THAT
VERY INTRIGUING.

YEAH, CAN YOU BRING IN
A TAYLOR SHAW?

I WANT TO BRING HIM IN
FOR QUESTIONING.

Joe: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY,
BUT HE THREATENED HER LIFE

AND SAID HE WOULD USE A KNIFE.

THAT MAKES HIM A PRIME SUSPECT.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

Joe: DETECTIVE STEIGER
IS INVESTIGATING

THE BRUTAL HOMICIDE
OF OLIVIA SMITH,

STABBED TO DEATH
AND LEFT TO DIE IN A STAIRWELL,

WHEN HE LEARNS FROM HER MOTHER
THAT HER BOYFRIEND, TAYLOR SHAW,

HAD THREATENED HER
WITH A KNIFE IN THE RECENT PAST.

STEIGER ALSO NOTICES
THERE'S AN ACTIVE WARRANT

FOR HIS ARREST.

I WANT TO BRING HIM
IN FOR QUESTIONING.

SO IT'S A PERFECT WAY
TO GATHER HIM UP

AND FIND OUT
WHAT HE HAS TO SAY FOR HIMSELF

IN REGARD
TO THE DEATH OF OLIVIA SMITH.

Steiger:
A COUPLE DAYS LATER, I HEARD
THAT SOMEONE HAD BEEN ARRESTED.

I WENT TO THE JAIL
AND TALKED TO THIS GUY.

MR. SHAW, I'M HERE
TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT

AN ACTIVE HOMICIDE
INVESTIGATION.

THIS IS THE FIRST BIG BREAK
IN THE CASE.

THE MURDER OF OLIVIA SMITHNO. HOLD ON.

LOOK, LISTEN,

I LIED.
I'M NOT TAYLOR SHAW.

LaVoice:
THEY GO TO QUESTION HIM,

AND HE'S SAYING,
"YOU HAVE THE WRONG GUY."

I DIDN'T MURDER ANYBODY.

I SWEAR, MY NAME IS
TIM WILLIAMS.

Joe: HE CLAIMED HIS IDENTITY
WAS TAYLOR SHAW

BECAUSE HE WAS WANTED UNDER
HIS OWN IDENTITY FOR ROBBERY.

I ADMIT, I GOT CRIMES.

HE JUST WAS STUPID ENOUGH
TO USE THE NAME

OF SOMEBODY
WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

HE WAS TRYING TO GET
OUT OF SOMETHING.

INSTEAD, IT GOT HIM IN JAIL.

OFFICER!

Steiger: THERE WAS
A LOT OF RABBIT HOLES

YOU GO DOWN, THAT SOUND
LIKE THEY MIGHT BE INVOLVED.

AND THEN YOU GET TO THE END,
YOU REALIZE,

"OH, THAT HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH IT."

AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
AND START OVER AGAIN.

Joe: SO TAYLOR SHAW
IS STILL OUT THERE

IN THE COSMOS SOMEWHERE.

STAND UP.

AND NOBODY
SEEMS TO KNOW WHERE.

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

SO WHAT DO YOU DO?

YOU CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE.

♪♪

STEIGER IS WONDERING WHAT HIS
NEXT STEP WILL BE, WHEN HE HEARS

THAT THERE HAS BEEN DISCOVERY
OF HUMAN REMAINS

IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY
TO THE JUNGLE.

Steiger:
WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE SCENE,

I WAS MET BY THE PATROL SERGEANT
AND A COUPLE PATROL OFFICERS,

AND THEY TOLD ME
THAT A TRANSIENT

HAD BEEN WALKING
BEHIND THESE BUILDINGS,

AND HE WAS LOOKING
FOR CANS AND BOTTLES,

AND HE CAME ACROSS A SKELETON.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

AND SO HE TOOK ME BACK
BEHIND THIS WAREHOUSE.

AND HE HAD HIS FLASHLIGHT
AND HE WAS SHINING IT.

HE POINTED, "IT'S RIGHT THERE."

AND HE POINTED IT
AT A SPOT ON THE GROUND.

AND I LOOKED AND I
COULD NOT SEE ANYTHING.

AND HE SAID, "THERE'S THE SHIRT
AND THERE'S THE SKULL."

WHEN THE SKULL
CAME INTO VIEW,

I COULD SEE
THE GAG IN HER MOUTH,

AND HER MOUTH WAS WIDE-OPEN,
ALMOST IN A SILENT SCREAM.

[ SIREN WAILS ]

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH BONES,

YOU CALL
A FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST.

THEY CAN FIND SOMETIMES
WOUNDS ON BODIES

THAT A PATHOLOGIST MIGHT MISS,
BASED ON WHAT'S ON A BONE.

Joe: THE ANTHROPOLOGIST
TELLS STEIGER, THESE BONES

HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MONTHS,

AND REPORTS THAT, "THIS IS
THE BODY OF A FEMALE,

THE REMAINS.

I HAVE SOME
MUMMIFIED SKIN AVAILABLE,

SOME HAIR ON THE SOUL.

THERE ARE SOME FRAGMENTS
OF CLOTHING, A PLAID SHIRT,

SEVERAL LAYERS OF CLOTHING."

ONCE AGAIN INDICATING
A HOMELESS PERSON.

CAN WE ROLL THE BODY?

Steiger: WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE
TO TURN THE BODY.

YOU COULD SEE THE FEET AND ARMS
WERE TIED BEHIND HER BACK.

Joe:
AND STEIGER ALMOST COLLAPSES
WHEN HE SEES THAT THE WRISTS

AND ARMS
ARE TIED WITH SHOELACES.

Steiger: RIGHT THEN,
THE BELLS WENT OFF.

AND I SAID, "DENISE HARRIS
WAS TIED UP WITH HER SHOELACES.

OLIVIA SMITH'S SHOES
WERE PARTIALLY UNLACED.

THIS GIRL WAS TIED UP
WITH HER SHOELACES."

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME
I USED THE WORD "SERIAL KILLER"

IN THIS CASE.

Joe: THERE IS NO LONGER
ANY QUESTION IN HIS MIND

THAT THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT

IS FACED WITH A SERIAL KILLER.

♪♪

Steiger: NEXT TO THE BODY,
THERE WAS A TOTE BAG,

AND INSIDE THE TOTE BAG,

THERE WERE SOME PAPERS.

HAD THE NAME ANTOINETTE JONES,

AND SO THAT WAS THE FIRST CLUE
WHO THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

♪♪

♪♪

SO, ONCE WE HAVE A NAME
OF A POTENTIAL VICTIM,

THEN WE RUN THE NAME
ANTOINETTE JONES

IN OUR SYSTEMS.

Joe: SHE IS A VERY
SIMILAR PERSON,

IN TERMS OF HER PAST,
TO THE OTHER TWO VICTIMS --

SOMEONE WHO HAS FALLEN
ON HARD TIMES

AS A RESULT OF CIRCUMSTANCES
IN HER OWN LIFE.

LaVoice: TO HER FAMILY,
SHE WAS CALLED TONI.

SHE HAD A GREAT SINGING VOICE.

AND SHE HAD THESE BIG DREAMS
OF HAVING A CAREER IN MUSIC.

SHE ENDED UP
GETTING PREGNANT QUITE YOUNG

AND DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL.

BUT THINGS DID START
TO LOOK LIKE

THEY WERE GOING TO WORK OUT
FOR HER.

SHE MOVED TO COLORADO.

SHE'S TAKING CARE OF HERSELF
AND HER DAUGHTER.

BUT THAT'S WHEN TWO REALLY
HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN TO HER.

Joe: HER BROTHER SERVED
IN THE FIRST IRAQ WAR,

SUFFERED PTSD
FROM THAT INVOLVEMENT,

AND TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.

HER MOTHER SAID THAT ANTOINETTE
COULD NOT RECOVER

FROM THE DEATH OF HER BROTHER.

ANTOINETTE HAD BEEN
A RECREATIONAL DRUG USER

BEFORE THAT,
BUT THEN SPIRALED

INTO A DEPRESSION
AND NEVER RECOVERED FROM IT,

CAUSING HER TO WIND UP IN THE
JUNGLE IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

Steiger: THEY HADN'T SEEN HER
IN MONTHS,

BUT NO ONE HAD REPORTED
HER MISSING.

SO WE COULDN'T FIRM IT DOWN,
BUT WE WERE PRETTY SURE IT WAS

IN MID-AUGUST
THAT SHE WAS KILLED.

HEY, I JUST GOT A CALL,
ABOUT A THIRD VICTIM

HAVING SHOELACES
TIED AROUND HER WRIST.

Steiger: I WENT UP
TO THE HOMICIDE OFFICE,

WHERE MIKE CIESYNSKI WAS WORKING
ON THE DENISE HARRIS CASE.

THEY HAD A CALL OUT,
"DECOMPOSED BODY."

AND GUESS WHAT?
SHE WAS TIED UP WITH SHOELACES.

LET'S GET THIS DOWN
ON THE BOARD.

Joe:
WE HAVE THREE HOMICIDES IN A
RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

TWO OF THE CASES ARE
VERY SIMILAR.

GAG IN THE MOUTH,

LIGATURE ON ONE CASE,

PROBABLY THE SAME
IN THE SKELETONIZED REMAINS.

NO WAY TO TELL THAT,
EXCEPT THE HYOID BONE

IS CRUSHED
IN THE SKELETAL REMAINS,

AND THAT INDICATES
STRANGULATION.

BUT YOU CAN'T SAY LIGATURE,
BUT NONETHELESS, SAME M.O.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THE THIRD CASE

IS THE M.O. GETS INTERRUPTED
BY SOME METHOD OR MEANS.

AND STABBING
AS THE METHOD OF DEATH.

BUT THE SHOELACES
ARE PLAYED WITH.

Steiger: GEOGRAPHICALLY,
THERE'S LESS THAN A MILE

BETWEEN EACH THREE SCENES,
IN A TRIANGLE PATTERN.

YOU COULD BE AT ONE SCENE

AND LOOK AT BOTH
OF THE OTHER SCENES FROM IT.

THAT'S WHERE THE SKELETAL
REMAINS OF ANTOINETTE JONES

WAS FOUND,
AND FURTHER DOWN THIS SIDE,

AND THERE'S WHERE OLIVIA.

I SAID, "I THINK WE GOT
A SERIAL KILLER WORKING HERE."

Joe: HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD HE BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING?

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UNKNOWN.

IS HE JUST STARTING OUT, OR HAS
HE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS?

WHO IS THIS GUY?

AND HOW DO WE FIND HIM?

[ SIREN WAILS ]

Joe: WE'RE NOW AT THE POINT
OF THIS INVESTIGATION

WHERE STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI
BOTH KNOW

THAT THEY'RE DEALING
WITH ONE PERPETRATOR

WHO HAS KILLED
AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE --

OLIVIA SMITH...

DENISE HARRIS...

ANTOINETTE JONES --

AND IS PROBABLY PLANNING
MORE MURDERS AS WE SPEAK.

[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]

MIKE.

Steiger: THE FIRST BREAK
IN THIS CASE

CAME A FEW WEEKS LATER,

MIKE CIESYNSKI GOT A CALL

FROM A GUY WHO WAS
IN JAIL FOR ROBBERY.

HE SAID HE HAD SOME INFORMATION
ABOUT THE DENISE HARRIS CASE.

GUY SAYS, "HEY, I HEAR
YOU'RE THE ONE WORKING

ON THAT CASE WITH THE GIRL
UP THERE IN THE JUNGLE."

Ciesynski:
SAID, "YEAH, I AM."

HE GOES, "I GOT SOME INFORMATION
FOR I KNOW WHO KILLED HER.

I WANT TO GET OUT OF JAIL,
AND I'LL HELP YOU FIND THE GUY."

IT'S NOT QUITE THAT EASY.

TELL ME WHAT YOU GOT.
I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

SAYS, "I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING
THAT NO ONE ELSE WOULD KNOW.

YOU NEVER FOUND HER PURSE,
DID YOU?"

THAT STOPPED ME RIGHT THERE.

I'M THINKING, "NOW, HOW WOULD HE
KNOW THAT?

Joe: THIS GUY SAYS,
"I WAS WITH THE GUY

WHO DID THIS TO DENISE HARRIS."

NOW, THAT'S PRETTY STARTLING.

I'LL BE DOWN THERE
IN A LITTLE BIT, ALRIGHT?

Ciesynski:
HE GOES, "ALRIGHT, DO THAT."

BRING ME ONE OF THOSE
CAPPUCCINOS, TOO."

CAPPUCCINO?
I SAID, "YOU GOT IT."

♪♪

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

Joe: DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS

IS KNOWN TO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT

FOR A LONG
AND VARIED CRIMINAL HISTORY.

HE GOES BY HIS MONIKER,
OR HIS STREET NAME,

WHICH IS "CHILLY WILLY,"

TAKEN FROM A CARTOON CHARACTER

OF A LITTLE PENGUIN
WHO WAS COLD ALL THE TIME.

WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME?

SO, I GO AND I TALK
TO THIS GUY IN JAIL.

I SAW EVERYTHING.

HE LAYS IT ALL OUT.

HE SAID, "I WAS UP THERE
WITH HIM."

HE STRANGLED HER.

"HE KILLED THIS GIRL."

TIED UP WITH SHOELACES.

"TOOK HER PURSE
AND THREW IT DOWN

THIS STORAGE DRAIN."

HE SAID HE WAS UP THERE
WITH A GUY NAMED MIKE SMITH

AND THAT MIKE SMITH DID THIS.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE
TO TELL THE STORY?

OF COURSE.

BUT YOU GOT TO PROMISE TO GET ME
OUT HERE FOR HELPING YOU.

I AIN'T
MAKING ANY PROMISES.

HE'S KIND OF HEEING AND HAWING
ABOUT COOPERATING.

FINE.

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

SO WE GO AND GRAB THIS GUY
OUT OF JAIL,

AND SECURE A WAIST CHAIN ON HIM
AND HANDCUFF HIM TO HIS SIDE

AND HE PUT A PAIR OF LEG IRONS
ON HIS ANKLES.

Steiger:
MY IMPRESSION WAS,

HE'S A STREETWISE GUY.
HE'S A PLAYER, RIGHT?

I THOUGHT, "THIS GUY IS
MORE INVOLVED IN THIS CASE

THAT HE'S ADMITTING."

Joe: STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI
ASK HIM,

"CAN YOU SHOW US
WHERE DENNIS HARRIS WAS KILLED?"

AND TO THEIR SHOCK
AND AMAZEMENT, HE DOES.

SHE WAS RIGHT HERE, MAN.
RIGHT THERE.

HE TAKES THEM THERE,
TO THE EXACT SPOT

WHERE DENISE HARRIS
WAS DISCOVERED.

WHERE'S THE PURSE?

IT'S BACK THERE
IN THE WOODS.

Ciesynski:
WE KEEP PRESSING HIM NOW

ABOUT, "WHATEVER HAPPENED
TO DENISE'S PURSE?"

THERE'S NOTHING HERE.

MAN, LOOK, I DON'T KNOW.

IT WAS UP HERE,
I PROMISE, MAN.

I HIT MY HEAD ON A CAN,
COMING UP THROUGH HERE.

Ciesynski: HE DESCRIBES
HOW HE STOOD UP

AND HE HIT HIS FOREHEAD
AND THAT BEER CAN

THAT WAS IMPALED
ON A TREE BRANCH.

[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]

CHILLY SAYS MIKE SMITH
WAS HERE WITH HIM,

AND MIKE SMITH
IS THE ONE KILLING,

AND MR. HARRIS IS JUST WATCHING.

I AIN'T BUYING THIS WHOLE
MIKE SMITH STORY, MAN.

I DON'T KNOW, MAN.
LOOK.

YOU DON'T KNOW, OR YOU'RE
JUST LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING?

Steiger: I SORT OF PRESSED HIM
ON IT A LITTLE BIT, AND I SAID,

"YEAH, MIKE SMITH,
WHAT A B.S. NAME THAT IS.

YOU KNOW, COME ON. REALLY?
THAT'S HOW YOU GOT?"

MAN, LOOK.
MAN, HE REAL, I'M TELLING YOU.

Joe:
SO, HARRIS GOES INTO SOME LENGTH
DESCRIBING THIS MIKE SMITH

TO STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI,

AND SAID, "HE'S A BLACK MALE,
HE'S IN HIS 30s,

HE HAS A MUSTACHE."

ALL KINDS OF SPECIFICS
ABOUT WHO HE IS.

GET HIM OUT OF HERE.

Steiger: YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE
MIKE SMITH THING,

I WAS REALLY SUSPICIOUS
OF THAT.

HE WAS HERE.

Ciesynski:
YOUR MIND IS JUST GOING,

IS THIS GUY PLAYING ME?
I KNOW HE WAS HERE.

WAS HE HERE BY HIMSELF?

THIS OTHER GUY, THIS MIKE SMITH,
I GOT TO FIND THAT GUY."

THE QUESTION WAS, IS HE JUST
A WITNESS OR IS HE THE KILLER?

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

Joe: MIKE SMITH SOUNDS
LIKE A MADE-UP NAME,

AND THEY GO AND FIND
EVERY MIKE SMITH

THAT'S EVER BEEN ARRESTED
IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

AND THEY GET
A PICTURE OF HIM

AND SHOW ALL THESE PHOTOGRAPHS
TO MR. HARRIS.

♪♪

HE IDENTIFIES NO ONE
AS BEING MIKE SMITH.

HARRIS THEN
BECOMES CONFRONTATIVE."

"WELL, I'M NOT GIVING YOU
ANY MORE INFORMATION.

"FINE."WE'RE DONE HERE.

"THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOODBYE, MR. HARRIS."

[ DOOR OPENS ]

[ DOOR CLOSES ]

STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI REMAIN
EXTREMELY INTERESTED

IN MR. HARRIS.

AS THEY'RE
MANEUVERING AROUND THE CITY,

WORKING THIS CASE,

THEY GET A REQUEST
FROM ANOTHER DETECTIVE.

HEY, JEFF.

"COULD YOU STOP
AND PICK UP THIS GIRL?"

ONE OF THE OTHER DETECTIVES
IS INVESTIGATING

A COMPLETELY UNRELATED CASE
AND ASKS US,

"I GOT THIS LITTLE
16-YEAR-OLD GIRL.

SHE'S A WITNESS TO MY MURDER,
AND I NEED TO TALK TO HER.

WOULD YOU GUYS MIND DRIVING
OUT THERE AND GRABBING HER

AND BRINGING HER BACK?"GOTCHA.

AND SAID, "SURE,
WE'LL DO IT."

♪♪

SHE WAS A YOUNG
STREET PROSTITUTE.

ANGEL, YOU GOT TO
GET OUT OF THIS LIFE.

I SAID, "YOUR GRANDPARENTS
LOVE YOU VERY MUCH."

YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP
GETTING HURT ONE OF THESE DAYS,

"YOU GOT TO STOP THIS.

I MEAN, YOU COULD
GET HURT OUT THERE."

Ciesynski: "YEAH,
YOU PROBABLY HAD

SOME REAL PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW,
WITH BEING ASSAULTED

BY JOHNS AND STUFF.

Steiger: "HAS ANYTHING SCARY
EVER HAPPENED TO YOU?

SHE GOES, "YEAH,
AS A MATTER OF FACT.

SO, I'M COMPLETELY NAKED.

AND THEN HE TRIES TO TIE ME UP
WITH MY OWN SHOESTRINGS.

[ TIRES SCREECH ]WHEN SHE SAID THAT,

I LITERALLY ALMOST DROVE OFF
THE BRIDGE I WAS ON.

I WENT, "HE SAID WHAT?!
YOU DID WHAT?!"

ONE OF THESE GUYS
HAD PICKED ME UP.

HE TRIED TO TIE ME UP
WITH MY OWN SHOELACES.

"I WAS NAKED.
I THINK HE WAS GOING TO KILL ME.

BUT I GOT AWAY AND
RAN NAKED DOWN THE STREET."

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?

AND WHAT ARE THE ODDS
THAT THE TWO OF US PICK HER UP

AND SHE STARTS TALKING ABOUT
THIS SERIAL KILLER

THAT WE ARE INVESTIGATING?

WHAT WAS HIS NAME?

UH, CHILLY WILLY.

[ POLICE RADIO CHATTER ]

WELL, MY, MY, MY.

CHILLY WILLY.

"WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT GUY."

[ SIREN WAILS ]

[ SECURITY DOOR BUZZES ]

Joe: DETECTIVES STEIGER
AND CIESYNSKI

HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING
THE DEATHS OF ANTOINETTE JONES,

DENISE HARRIS,
AND OLIVIA SMITH

AS BEING MURDERED
BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL.

Ciesynski: WE GO BACK
TO OUR OFFICE.

I PUT DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS,
A.K.A. CHILLY WILLY,

IN A ROOM.

HE'S JUST SITTING THERE,
SMOKING A CIGARETTE,

HAVING HIS CAPPUCCINO.

AND HE LOOKS UP TO ME
AND ROLLS HIS EYES AT ME.

AND HE GOES, "MIKEY MIKE,
T.J., DENISE HARRIS,

I KILLED THEM.

AND THAT [BLEEP]
IN THE STAIRWELL, TOO.

I KILLED THEM GIRLS."

Joe: DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS
IS THEIR SERIAL KILLER.

ARE YOU SURE
YOU DON'T WANT A LAWYER?

I'M SURE.

STEIGER AND CIESYNSKI KNOW,

BASED ON THE CONDITION OF
THE REMAINS OF ANTOINETTE JONES,

SHE WAS PROBABLY
THE FIRST VICTIM

IN THE JUNGLE.

T.J., AS HE KNEW HER,
RIPPED HIM OFF ONE TIME,

OF SOME DRUGS.

AND CHILLY SAYS,
"IT'S ONE OF MY SPOTS."

"WHAT DO YOU LIKE
ABOUT THIS SPOT?"

"BUT NO ONE COULD
HEAR YOU SCREAM."

"I JUST HIT HER. BAM."

"KNOCKED HER ON HER ASS, MAN.
GOT HER UP, PUNCHED HER AGAIN.

THEY SAY I STRANGLED HER."

AND HE SAYS, "ANTOINETTE JONES
TALKED TO ME

WHILE I WAS ATTACKING HER,
AND SHE SAID,

'DON'T HURT ME, DON'T KILL ME.
I HAVE CHILDREN.'

AND I LOOKED AT HER,
AND I SAID,

'IT'S NOT TIME
TO TALK ABOUT YOUR KIDS.

IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO DIE.'"

Ciesynski: HE GOES, "ACTUALLY
TELL WHEN THEY'RE DYING,

WHEN YOU GOT 'EM GOOD AND
THEIR EYES ARE BULGING OUT,

AND SHE PISSES HERSELF."

"THEN, SHE WAS DOWN THERE,

AND I THREW SOME CARDBOARD
OVER HER."

CHILLY SAID,
"I MET HER DOWNTOWN IN A BAR."

SHE CAME WALKING UP,
AND HE GOES,

"WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME
THEM CIGARETTES?"

SHE GOES, "WHAT YOU GOT FOR ME?"

IN HIS HAND, HE HAD
A BAG OF ROCK COCAINE.

Joe: THAT'S A WEAKNESS
HE CAN EXPLOIT,

BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS GOING
TO BE, "YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD."

"WELL, COME WITH ME,
BECAUSE I'VE GOT A SAFE PLACE.

I HAVE A PLACE
I CALL MY PLAYGROUND.

HE DOESN'T INCLUDE THE FACT
THAT HIS PLAYGROUND

INVOLVES SEXUAL ASSAULT
AND MURDER.

HE SAVES THAT PART.

FOR HE THEN
ATTACKS AND KILLS HER,

IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY
HE KILLED HIS FIRST VICTIM.

HE STRANGLES HER WITH A BELT,

TIES HER UP WITH SHOELACES.

HE HAD SEX WITH HER.

HE THOUGHT THIS WAS GREAT.

AND THEN HE MOVES ON,
INTO THE JUNGLE,

WAITING FOR HIS NEXT PREY
TO PRESENT THEMSELF.

DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS
IS A PSYCHOPATH.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

AT ONE POINT IN MY INTERVIEW,
I SAID, "DeWAYNE,

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I LET YOU
WALK OUT OF HERE TODAY?"

AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID,

"YOU'D HAVE
FOUR MORE BODY BAGS."

Joe: NOW, CIESYNSKI AND STEIGER
ARE CURIOUS ABOUT

WHY THE DEATH OF OLIVIA SMITH
WAS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT,

THAT A WEAPON WAS INVOLVED.

"TELL US ABOUT OLIVIA SMITH."

IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE,
HE KNOWS OLIVIA SMITH.

Steiger: WHEN HE DESCRIBED
OLIVIA'S MURDER,

HE DESCRIBED LURING HER
DOWN THERE WITH CRACK COCAINE.

THEY DECIDED
TO GO SOMEPLACE PRIVATE.

AND HE TAKES HER
TO THAT STAIRWELL.

AND THEN HE STARTS
TO ATTACK HER.

[ SCREAMS ][ GRUNTS ]

AND SHE DOESN'T WANT
ANY PART OF THAT.

Steiger: AND HE SAID,
"I WAS GOING TO TIE HER UP.

I WAS GETTING HER SHOELACES OFF,

AND SHE PULLED A KNIFE
AND SHE STABBED ME."

AND HE SAID
HE WENT INTO A RAGE.

Joe: HE TAKES A KNIFE AWAY FROM
HER AND JUST GOES CRAZY WITH IT.

[ SCREAMING ]

"I GOT THAT KNIFE AWAY FROM HER,
AND I CUT HER THROAT.

AND THEN I STABBED HER
IN THE ASS A BUNCH OF TIMES."

Joe: IN HIS MIND,
HE HURTS PEOPLE.

PEOPLE DON'T HURT HIM.

REALLY?

WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE YOUR CROWN OFF YOUR HEAD

AND LOCK YOU UP UNDER A PRISON,
DeWAYNE.

Steiger:
DeWAYNE HARRIS WAS CHARGED

WITH THREE COUNTS OF MURDER
IN THE FIRST DEGREE

AND ONE COUNT OF ATTEMPTED
MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE.

AND HE WAS SENTENCED TO 94 YEARS
IN THE STATE PENITENTIARY,

WHERE HE REMAINS TO THIS DAY.

Steiger: OLIVIA SMITH...

DENISE HARRIS...

ANTOINETTE JONES --

THEIR MOTHERS LOVE THEM.

SOME OF THEM WERE WERE MOTHERS
THEMSELVES.

THEY HAVE CHILDREN,
THAT LOVE THEM.

THEY DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE.
NO ONE DOES, LIKE THIS.

LaVoice:
DeWAYNE LEE HARRIS TOOK AWAY
THEIR SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE.

HE TOOK AWAY THEIR CHANCE
TO PURSUE THEIR DREAMS

AND TO MAKE AMENDS
WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

WE'LL NEVER KNOW
WHO THEY COULD HAVE BEEN,

WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE
WITH THEIR LIVES.

Joe:
THIS WAS A TERRIBLE SITUATION

RESOLVED BY TWO
SOLID HOMICIDE DETECTIVES

WHO DID THEIR JOB,

WHO KEPT ASKING
ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS,

AND SAVED ANY NUMBER OF LIVES
IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.