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>> THE AVERAGE PUBLIC, ANYWAYS,
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I DON'T THINK PROBABLY
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UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS MEANS FOR,
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LIKE, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
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POKER PLAYERS, YOU KNOW.
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THIS WAS MY LIVELIHOOD, AND IT
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WASN'T JUST A GAME, YOU KNOW?
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LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST A
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BAD DREAM I'M GONNA WAKE UP
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FROM.
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THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
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A PANIC.
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THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON THE POKER
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FORUMS AND STUFF WHO HAD LIKE
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95% OF THEIR NET WORTH WRAPPED
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UP IN THESE ONLINE SITES, AND
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RIGHT NOW IT'S IN LIMBO.
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WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT WE'RE
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GOING TO GET OUR MONEY BACK, AND
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WE'D LIKE TO BE OPTIMISTIC, BUT
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REALLY WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW.
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>> WHEN I FOUND OUT SITTING
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AROUND ON A COMPUTER PLAYING
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CARDS FOR A LIVING WAS SOMETHING
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YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO, I WAS
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LIKE, "THAT'S IT!
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THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH
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MY LIFE."
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>> IT'S A VERY INTERESTING GAME
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WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
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LIKE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO
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PREVENT ME FROM WINNING ALL YOUR
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MONEY?
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>> I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS
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WOULD HAVE EVER EXPECTED TO GROW
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UP AND BE A PROFESSIONAL ONLINE
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POKER PLAYER.
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I WOULD HAVE SAID IT WAS MORE
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LIKELY THAT I WOULD GROW UP TO
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BE AN ASTRONAUT.
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>> I THINK POKER TEACHES YOU TO
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EVALUATE ON THE FLY.
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IT'S ALWAYS UP IN THE AIR.
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YOU CAN'T SAY FOR SURE.
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IT'S EPHEMERAL, AND YOU CAN'T
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GRASP IT.
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>> YOU'RE ALMOST OUTSIDE
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YOURSELF A BIT IN A GOOD WAY
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WHEN YOU'RE JUST MAKING THESE
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COMPLEX DECISIONS WITHIN THE
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STRUCTURE OF THIS GAME.
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>> YOU'RE HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH YOUR
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OPPONENT, AND IT'S WHOSE MENTAL
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BRAIN POWER IS GOING TO, LIKE,
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OUTWIT THE OTHER ONE.
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>> YOU'RE KIND OF, LIKE, TRYING
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TO GET INTO THEIR HEAD AND READ
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THEIR MIND, AND THE BETTER YOU
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CAN DO THAT, THE BETTER AT IT
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YOU'RE GOING TO BE.
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>> YOU TRY AND MAKE THE BEST
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DECISION YOU CAN AND LEAVE
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EVERYTHING ELSE UP TO FATE OR
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DESTINY OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
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CALL IT.
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AND SO EVERY DAY HAS A LITTLE
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BIT OF MYSTERY GOING INTO IT.
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>> I PLAY POKER BECAUSE I LOVE
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POKER, BECAUSE I'M GOOD AT
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POKER.
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I WORKED MY WAY UP THROUGH THE
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BOTTOM, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF
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WHERE I, LIKE, HAVE ENDED UP.
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POKER'S DEFINITELY GIVEN ME THE
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OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE LIFE OUTSIDE
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OF THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM.
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IT'S GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
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ALLOW MYSELF TO BE HAPPY.
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>> EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE IN MY
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LIFE IS THE RESULT OF MY FIRST
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$75 DEPOSIT IN AN ONLINE POKER
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SITE.
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>> POKER IS NOT JUST A GAME.
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IT'S SO WRAPPED UP IN EVERY
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OTHER ASPECT OF MY LIFE THAT
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IT'S KIND OF BECOME A PART OF MY
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IDENTITY.
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>> POKER IS ONE OF THE THREE
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REALLY QUINTESSENTIAL AMERICAN
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GAMES.
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IT CAME OVER HERE PROBABLY IN
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THE 1810s AS THE FRENCH GAME
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POQUE BUT REALLY BECAME
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AMERICANIZED AND REALLY CAME TO
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DEFINE HOW AMERICANS GAMBLE.
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>> POKER IS A GAME THAT REALLY
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EMBODIES WHAT THIS CULTURE IS
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ALL ABOUT.
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EVERYONE STARTS WITH THE
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BACKGROUND THAT THEY'VE HAD, THE
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EXPERIENCES THEY'VE HAD, THE
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KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE, THE SKILLS
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THEY HAVE, AND THEY SIT DOWN AND
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PLAY A GAME.
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>> AMERICA'S ALL ABOUT THE
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INDEPENDENT SPIRIT.
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JUST LISTEN TO ANY POLITICIAN.
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ALL THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS
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FREEDOM, YOU KNOW, AND
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INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND CHOICES.
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WELL, THAT'S WHAT POKER GIVES
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YOU.
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>> THERE IS SOME LUCK, BUT BY
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AND LARGE, THOSE WHO HAVE THE
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MOST SKILL, THE MOST KNOWLEDGE,
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THE MOST EXPERIENCE, IN SOME
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CASES, ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
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GOING TO GO THE FURTHEST AND WIN
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THE MOST.
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THAT'S THE WAY IT IS IN POKER,
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AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS IN
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LIFE.
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[ MODEM CONNECTING ]
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>> A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT
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PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO
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PLAY POKER ONLINE BECAUSE
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PLAYERS HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING
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WHETHER THERE WAS COLLUSION
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GOING ON OR WHETHER ANY OF IT
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WAS REAL, YOU KNOW, AND THEY
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SAID, "WELL, WHY WOULD PEOPLE DO
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THAT?"
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>> THE BIG QUESTION WITH A LOT
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OF ONLINE OPERATORS AND
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CERTAINLY THOSE IN THE INDUSTRY
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WERE WOULD THIS THING LAST, IS
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THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO
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BE AROUND 5, 10 YEARS FROM NOW?
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AND IF IT'S AROUND, HOW BIG WILL
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IT BE?
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CERTAINLY, CHRIS MONEYMAKER IN
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2003 CHANGES EVERYTHING.
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>> EVERYBODY'S DREAM IS TO WIN
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THE BIG TOURNAMENT.
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>> IT'S JUST THE PINNACLE OF
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POKER, AND THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE
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A YEAR.
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>> HELLMUTH WINS THE
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CHAMPIONSHIP!
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>> THIS IS THE TOURNAMENT THAT
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EVERYBODY WAITS AN ENTIRE YEAR
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FOR.
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>> WE DID IT, MAN!
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>> DURING THE 1980s, THE
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TOURNAMENT ACTUALLY HAD VERY
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FLAT NUMBERS.
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IT DIDN'T GROW.
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THE 2003 WORLD SERIES OF POKER
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MAIN EVENT, THAT'S THE BREAKING
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POINT.
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>> THE LIST OF ENTRANTS, 839
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PLAYERS LONG, THE MOST EVER HERE
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AT BINION'S, AND THEY'VE
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ACTUALLY HAD TO EMPLOY A
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DOWNSTAIRS POKER ROOM TO HOLD
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THE OVERFLOW.
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>> THEY HAD TABLES THAT WERE
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ACTUALLY HALF INSIDE BINION'S
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AND HALF OUTSIDE ON
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FREMONT STREET.
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THERE WAS JUST SO MANY PEOPLE
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THERE, AND IT WAS LIKE, "OH, MY.
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WHERE DID EVERYONE COME FROM?"
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>> THIS HUGE INCREASE OF PLAYERS
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WAS PRIMARILY A RESULT OF THE
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EXPLOSION OF ONLINE SATELLITES.
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>> ONE MORE MAN I HAVE TOLITES.
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MENTION BEFORE WE GET UNDER WAY
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AT OUR FEATURED TABLE -- HIS
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NAME IS CHRIS MONEYMAKER.
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>> HE WON HIS WAY INTO THIS
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TOURNAMENT BY WINNING A
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$40 ENTRY FEE INTERNET
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TOURNAMENT.
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>> HE WAS AN AMATEUR.
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HE WAS AN ACCOUNTANT BY TRADE
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AND PLAYED POKER RECREATIONALLY.
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>> JUST A REGULAR GUY, AN
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ACCOUNTANT FOR A RESTAURANT
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CHAIN, HERE WITH THE BIG BOYS.
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>> THAT WAS THE APPEAL FOR
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SPECTATORS AT HOME, BECAUSE WE
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COULD RELATE TO A GUY LIKE
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CHRIS MONEYMAKER.
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>> CHRIS MONEYMAKER KNOCKS
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ANOTHER BIG PLAYER OUT OF THE
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TOURNAMENT.
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>> HE'S THE GUY THAT YOU WORK
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WITH.
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HE'S YOUR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR.
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HE'S YOUR COUSIN.
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HE'S YOUR BROTHER.
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>> NICE!
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THE GAME IS ON NOW.
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>> YOU READY TO HAVE SOME FUN?
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YOU READY TO HAVE SOME FUN?
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>> THE CHRIS MONEYMAKER,
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SAM FARHA MATCHUP IS YOUR
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CLASSIC DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH.
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YOU HAVE YOUR UNDERDOG,
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CHRIS MONEYMAKER, TAKING ON THE
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PROVERBIAL LAS VEGAS SHARK.
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>> SAMMY HAS THE EDGE.HARK.
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HE'S A HIGH-ACTION EXPERIENCE
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PLAYER, AND LET'S FACE IT.
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THIS KID IS PLAYING FOR A BIG
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PRIZE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS
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LIFE.
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IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF
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PRESSURE.
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THAT'S WHY YOU HEAR IN SPORTS,
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WHEN YOU GO TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP
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GAME, THE FIRST TIME YOU GET
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THERE, YOU USUALLY DON'T WIN.
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>> OKAY, I GO ALL-IN. LET'S GO.
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>> I CALL.
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>> SAM FARHA GOES ALL-IN, AND
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CHRIS MONEYMAKER IS GOING TO
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CALL IT.
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>> AND WITH TWO PAIR,
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CHRIS MONEYMAKER, A STATISTICAL
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IMPROBABILITY TO WIN THIS TITLE
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AT THE OUTSET, IS NOW CLOSING IN
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ON MAKING IT AN INCREDIBLE
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REALITY.
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>> WITH A FULL HOUSE,
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CHRIS MONEYMAKER ELIMINATES
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SAM FARHA, AND THE 27-YEAR-OLD
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HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE VIRTUAL
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POKER ROOM AND IN A VERY SWIFT
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AND UNLIKELY MANNER IS ATOP THE
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POKER WORLD.
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>> WHEN PEOPLE SAW THAT, IT
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BECAME SOMEWHAT OF AN AMERICAN
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DREAM, WHERE, "WOW, THE GUY'S
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NAME IS MONEYMAKER, HE JUST
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TURNED 40 BUCKS INTO
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$2.5 MILLION.
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I WANT THAT TO BE ME."
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>> SUDDENLY EVERYBODY IN THE
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COUNTRY, WHETHER THEY LIVE CLOSE
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TO A CASINO OR NOT, SAID, "HEY,
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I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW POKER WAS
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AVAILABLE ONLINE."
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>> ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS CAME
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TOGETHER TO MAKE THE PERFECT
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STORM, AND ONLINE POKER JUST
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EXPLODED.
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THAT WAS THE THING.
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IN THE PAST, IF YOU WEREN'T
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FROM, LIKE, VEGAS, L.A.,
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ATLANTIC CITY, A COUPLE OTHER
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SPOTS, YOU BASICALLY COULDN'T BE
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A GREAT POKER PLAYER, AND THAT'S
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REALLY THE REASON THAT ONLINE
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POKER HAS DONE SO MUCH, BECAUSE
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IT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE
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ANYWHERE TO BECOME POTENTIALLY
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THE GREATEST POKER PLAYER IN THE
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WORLD.
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>> THAT'S THE MONEYMAKER EFFECT.
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[ BELL DINGING ]
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>> NEW ULM IS A TOWN OF ABOUT
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13,000 PEOPLE IN SOUTHERN
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MINNESOTA.
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IT'S A PRETTY TRADITIONAL,
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CONSERVATIVE TOWN.
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IT IS DEFINITELY NOT COMMON TO
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BE A PROFESSIONAL POKER PLAYER
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IN NEW ULM.
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AS FAR AS I KNOW, I'M THE ONLY
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ONE.
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I DISCOVERED POKER THROUGH MY
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HUSBAND, KORY.
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HIM AND HIS BUDDIES WERE ALWAYS
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PLAYING IN COLLEGE.
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AND AT FIRST, I DIDN'T WANT TO
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LEARN AT ALL, BECAUSE I DON'T
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LIKE LEARNING NEW GAMES, BUT
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EVENTUALLY I JOINED IN, AND I
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JUST KIND OF HAD A NATURAL
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TALENT FOR THE GAME, AND I JUST
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STARTED WINNING ALL THE TIME.
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>> SHE JUST GOT GOOD AT IT.
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IT WAS PRETTY QUICK THAT SHE WAS
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CERTAINLY ELEVATED TO THE TOP OF
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OUR FRIENDLY LITTLE GAME THAT
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WASN'T VERY COMPETITIVE.
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>> BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST
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ONE OF THESE FAD THINGS, YOU
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KNOW, KIDS GO THROUGH.
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BUT AT THAT TIME, SHE WAS STILL
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IN COLLEGE, AND THEN ALL OF A
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SUDDEN, I FIND AFTER THE FACT
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THAT SHE TOOK A FEW SEMESTERS
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OFF TO GAMBLE.
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>> I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER KORY
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AND I HAVING A CONVERSATION, AND
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WE WERE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE
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WE WERE THINKING THAT IT WAS
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MAYBE A POSSIBILITY THAT I COULD
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MAKE $100 EXTRA A MONTH, AND WE
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WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT AN
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IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE ON OUR
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LIFE.
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>> I WAS REALLY SURPRISED WHEN
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SHE GOT HER LAPTOP OUT HERE ONE
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DAY AND SHE WAS PLAYING AND SHE
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HAD LIKE FOUR DIFFERENT GAMES
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GOING AT THE SAME TIME.
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AND THEN I THINK I REALIZED
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THAT, "WOW, SHE'S GOT SOMETHING
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GOING ON HERE."
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>> I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS
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IMAGINED THAT IT WOULD CONTINUE
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TO GO AND PROGRESS TO WHERE IT
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HAS NOW.
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>> LOOK AT THIS!
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IT'S A BOWL OF FRUITS.
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IT'S A BOWL OF FRUIT.
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IT IS.
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>> OKAY, SO ARE THOSE GRAPES?
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>> YEAH. AND THAT'S A BLUEBERRY.
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>> OH, AND THIS MUST BE A
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BANANA.
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>> AND THAT'S AN APPLE.
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>> WHAT'S THE GREEN THING?
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>> UH, THAT'S A SPOON.
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>> OH.
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POKER ALLOWS ME FREEDOM THAT
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OTHER PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE
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THROUGH THEIR JOBS.
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I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE TIED DOWN
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TO NINE-TO-FIVE JOBS, AND THEY
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HAVE TO MISS EVENTS IN THEIR
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LIFE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO
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THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A JOB
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THAT REQUIRES THEM TO BE THERE.
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AND POKER ALLOWS ME TO BE MY OWN
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BOSS, REALLY.
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I DON'T HAVE TO MISS ANY OF
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LIFE'S BIG EVENTS.
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I'VE THUS FAR BEEN VERY, VERY
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BLESSED, AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
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BE THERE FOR ALL OF THEM, AND
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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST HOLDS
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A TON OF VALUE TO ME.
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THE FREEDOM THAT POKER ALLOWS ME
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TO HAVE IS JUST PRICELESS.
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>> NICE CATCH, HUH, DAD?
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OH, YOU'RE GOING TO EAT IT.
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[ CHUCKLES ]
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>> AH.
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>> I'VE ALWAYS PRETTY MUCH HAD
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SOME GAME THAT I'M PLAYING.
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BEFORE I STARTED PLAYING POKER,
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MY MAIN OBSESSION WAS
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"StarCraft."
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"StarCraft" IS REALLY, REALLY
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FUN.
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I'M FROM AUSTRALIA, SO I
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REMEMBER WAKING UP AT LIKE 4:00
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IN THE MORNING AND PLAY U.S.
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PLAYERS ON DIAL-UP, WHICH WAS
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PRETTY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE
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EVERYONE HAD BROADBAND.
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BUT I NOTICED IN THE "StarCraft"
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COMMUNITY THERE WAS KIND OF A
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LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT ONLINE
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POKER, AND A LOT OF THE BETTER
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PLAYERS AT "StarCraft" WERE KIND
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OF FOOLING AROUND -- OR IT
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SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE FOOLING
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AROUND -- WITH POKER.
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SOMEONE LIKE INTELLIMAN OR ElkY,
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THEY WERE PLAYING THE HIGHEST
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GAMES ON PokerStars, WHICH
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SEEMED RIDICULOUS, BECAUSE THEY
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HAD JUMPED INTO THIS WITH A YEAR
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OF EXPERIENCE.
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SO THAT KIND OF LED ME TO
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INITIALLY PLAYING POKER.
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AT FIRST, IT FELT KIND OF BORING
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AND SLOW.
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YOU KNOW, YOU GET DEALT HANDS.
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IT'S NOT LIKE A REAL-TIME
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STRATEGY GAME WHERE YOU'RE LIKE,
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"NEH-LEH-LEH-LEH-LEH."
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BUT ONCE THOSE KIND OF
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AESTHETICS FADE AWAY AND YOU
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START DEALING WITH THE HUMAN
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ELEMENT, THEN THE KIND OF
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RICHNESS OF THE GAME BECOMES
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APPARENT.
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IT'S A KIND OF TRICKY PROCESS,
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LEARNING SOMETHING THAT YOU
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REALLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT, WITH
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NO KIND OF SUPPORT GROUP HELPING
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YOU LEARN.
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YOU'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE
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SWIMMING INTO THE TIDE, HOPING
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THAT YOU'LL GET TO SOME ISLAND
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EVENTUALLY AND JUST KIND OF
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HAVING FAITH THAT YOU WILL.
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SO IN MY SECOND YEAR OF
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UNIVERSITY, POKER STARTED TO
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TAKE OVER, AND AT SOME POINT,
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SOMETHING HAD TO GIVE.
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ONE DAY, I GUESS I JUST WOKE UP
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AND IT WAS THE UNIVERSITY.
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BY THE TIME I GOT TO GERMANY, I
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REMEMBER DISTINCTLY SENDING MY
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BROTHER AN E-MAIL SAYING LIKE,
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YOU KNOW, "I'M THROUGH TAKING
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THIS AS A KIND OF MIDDLE-RANGE
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THING.
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LIKE, I WANT TO PLAY THE BIGGEST
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GAMES ALL DAY EVERY DAY."
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AND FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS,
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PRETTY MUCH ALL MY AMBITIONS
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WERE RELATED TO SUCCESS AT POKER
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AND EVERYTHING ELSE FELL TO THE
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SIDELINES, BECAME LESS
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IMPORTANT.
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>> I NEVER MIND BRINGING THE
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JACKET IN JUST A DASH IN THE
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BACK TO MAKE IT GIVE IT SORT OF
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MORE OF THAT "V" SHAPE.
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>> YEAH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO
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CLEAN UP THE BACK A LITTLE.
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WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THE COLLAR
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HERE, AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT
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IN JUST A TAD, JUST GIVE YOU
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MORE OF A SILHOUETTE.
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>> A LITTLE IN THE BACK?
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>> SURE.
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>> THROUGHOUT HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS
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DEFINITELY ATTRACTED TO THE BOND
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OR G LIFESTYLE THAT I HAD SEEN
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IN SO MANY MAGAZINES AND MOVIES,
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AND I WANTED TO GROW UP AND LIVE
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THAT LIFESTYLE, TO BE ABLE TO
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TRAVEL THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, BE
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DRESSED TO THE NINES AT ALL
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TIMES, BE ABLE TO PICK UP GIRLS
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WITH EASE, HAVE A BUNCH OF
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REALLY COOL FRIENDS WHO WOULD
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CONNECT ME TO STUFF GOING ON IN
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WHATEVER CITY I WAS VISITING.
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SO THAT WAS ALWAYS KIND OF --
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THAT WAS THE DREAM FOR ME.
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INSTEAD OF OWNING A BUNCH OF
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THINGS, IT WAS HAVING A BUNCH OF
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EXPERIENCES.
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>> THIS IS AMAZING, MAN, WITH
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THE BROWN SHOES.
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I LOVE IT.
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CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND MARK HIM,
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ALEX?
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>> WHEN I WAS 19, I WON A
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PACKAGE ON PartyPoker WHILE
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PLAYING IN MY DORM THAT GAVE ME
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AN ENTRY AND TRIP AND HOTEL TO A
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TOURNAMENT DOWN IN AUSTRALIA.
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[ CORK POPS ]
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>> OOH. THERE WE GO.
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>> SO I WENT DOWN THERE FOR 10
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DAYS, MADE SOME MONEY IN THE
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TOURNAMENTS, FELL IN LOVE WITH
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THE PLACE, DECIDED I WOULD GO
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BACK FOR STUDY ABROAD.
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SO SIX MONTHS LATER, I MOVED
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BACK THERE.
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I WOULD SAY IT WAS PROBABLY THE
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HAPPIEST PERIOD OF MY LIFE.
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IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ONLINE
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POKER EVERY DAY, HANGING OUT
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WITH FRIENDS EVERY EVENING,
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TAKING DAYS OFF TO GO GOLFING OR
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PLAY TENNIS OR GO DRINKING WITH
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MY FRIENDS.
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SO I JUST KIND OF HAD LIKE A
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VERY HAPPY, BALANCED LIFE WHERE
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I WAS ABLE TO DO A LITTLE OF
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EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED.
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>> ALL RIGHT THAT'S SUIT NUMBER
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ONE.
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LET'S GO FOR SUIT NUMBER TWO.
501
00:15:17,567 --> 00:15:19,300
>> AND IT WAS MY INTENTION TO
502
00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:20,500
STAY DOWN THERE, BUT
503
00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:22,333
UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT ABLE TO
504
00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:24,133
ACQUIRE PERMANENT RESIDENCY.
505
00:15:24,133 --> 00:15:26,100
SO I NEEDED A NEW PLACE TO LIVE
506
00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:27,633
IN THE U.S. ON VERY SHORT
507
00:15:27,633 --> 00:15:29,600
NOTICE, WHICH IS WHY I NOW LIVE
508
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,533
IN A POOL HOUSE IN MY FRIEND'S
509
00:15:31,533 --> 00:15:32,567
BACKYARD.
510
00:15:32,567 --> 00:15:34,467
HEY, GUYS WHAT'S UP?
511
00:15:34,467 --> 00:15:35,500
HOW YOU DOING? COME ON IN.
512
00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:36,767
COME ON IN.
513
00:15:36,767 --> 00:15:39,267
I'M LIVING HERE IN LAS VEGAS, IN
514
00:15:39,267 --> 00:15:41,333
THE HOME OF MY FRIEND ANDREW
515
00:15:41,333 --> 00:15:43,367
"LUCKYCHEWY" LICHTENBERGER.
516
00:15:43,367 --> 00:15:45,567
HE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE AFTER HE
517
00:15:45,567 --> 00:15:47,733
HAD A REALLY GOOD 2009 WORLD
518
00:15:47,733 --> 00:15:49,867
SERIES OF POKER, AND I MOVED
519
00:15:49,867 --> 00:15:52,467
INTO THE POOL HOUSE IN SPRING
520
00:15:52,467 --> 00:15:53,233
2010.
521
00:15:53,233 --> 00:15:54,833
THIS IS DAN SMITH, A.K.A.
522
00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:55,633
KINGDAN.
523
00:15:55,633 --> 00:15:56,867
WHAT'S HAPPENING?
524
00:15:56,867 --> 00:15:58,667
AND MIKE "MADDOG" WATSON.
525
00:15:58,667 --> 00:15:59,867
GIVE 'EM A BARK.
526
00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:00,633
>> [ BARKS ]
527
00:16:00,633 --> 00:16:02,800
>> I'M LIVING IN A SORT OF
528
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,833
FRAT-HOUSE SCENARIO OF POKER
529
00:16:04,833 --> 00:16:05,667
PLAYERS.
530
00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:07,400
THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY RULES TO
531
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,133
THE HOUSE.
532
00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:08,800
>> [ LAUGHS ]
533
00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,367
>> IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF YOUNG
534
00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:11,833
DUDES LIVING TOGETHER, BUT THIS
535
00:16:11,833 --> 00:16:13,400
TIME THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME
536
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:13,767
MONEY.
537
00:16:13,767 --> 00:16:16,867
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
538
00:16:16,867 --> 00:16:18,400
I LOVE LIVING HERE.
539
00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,200
IF I HAD TO LEAVE MELBOURNE FOR
540
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,700
SOMEWHERE, I'M GLAD IT WAS A
541
00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:23,567
NICE HOUSE IN LAS VEGAS WITH ALL
542
00:16:23,567 --> 00:16:25,267
MY BUDDIES WHO ARE BETTER AT
543
00:16:25,267 --> 00:16:29,333
POKER THAN I AM.
544
00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:30,300
>> WHAT ARE WE AT?
545
00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:31,767
>> YOU'RE UP $100, 'CAUSE I WON
546
00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:33,500
THE FIRST GAME, AND THEN YOU WON
547
00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:34,867
TWO IN A ROW.
548
00:16:34,867 --> 00:16:37,633
YES, I'VE BEEN BETTING $100,
549
00:16:37,633 --> 00:16:38,767
SO YOU'RE UP $100 ON ME.
550
00:16:38,767 --> 00:16:40,767
>> I'M UP A HUNDO.
551
00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:42,400
>> [ LAUGHS ]
552
00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,533
>> OKAY, YODA.
553
00:16:43,533 --> 00:16:45,633
>> THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT
554
00:16:45,633 --> 00:16:47,800
THE MONEY ONLINE POKER PROVIDED
555
00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,167
ME IN LIFE WAS A REAL DIRECTION
556
00:16:50,167 --> 00:16:52,200
FOR WHAT I WANTED TO DO IN MY
557
00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:52,700
LIFE.
558
00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:54,167
I WAS A THEATER MAJOR IN
559
00:16:54,167 --> 00:16:55,567
COLLEGE, AND I DIDN'T REALLY
560
00:16:55,567 --> 00:16:57,300
CARE ABOUT IT, AND I DIDN'T WANT
561
00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:58,667
TO DO IT, AND I KNEW THAT I
562
00:16:58,667 --> 00:17:00,400
WANTED SOMETHING THAT ALLOWED ME
563
00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,867
A LARGE DEGREE OF AUTONOMY BUT
564
00:17:01,867 --> 00:17:03,600
WOULD HOPEFULLY MAKE ME A FAIRLY
565
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,100
WEALTHY GUY, AND THAT WAS
566
00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,633
EXACTLY ONLINE POKER.
567
00:17:07,633 --> 00:17:09,500
PLUS, IT ALLOWED ME THE FREEDOM
568
00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,367
TO BE WHATEVER KIND OF PERSON I
569
00:17:11,367 --> 00:17:13,267
WANTED TO BE, AND HANG OUT WITH
570
00:17:13,267 --> 00:17:14,367
WHOEVER I WANTED.
571
00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,167
SO LONG AS YOU COULD GO HOME,
572
00:17:16,167 --> 00:17:17,833
LOG ON, AND PLAY WELL ENOUGH TO
573
00:17:17,833 --> 00:17:19,700
WIN, EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DID WAS
574
00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:22,100
TO YOUR DISCRETION.
575
00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:24,233
[ ALL SHOUTING ]
576
00:17:24,233 --> 00:17:25,667
>> YEAH!
577
00:17:25,667 --> 00:17:27,267
SORRY.
578
00:17:27,267 --> 00:17:32,233
[ INDISTINCT TALKING ]
579
00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:33,800
>> IF THERE ARE TWO STORMS OF
580
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,567
THE MODERN ERA IN POKER, THEY
581
00:17:35,567 --> 00:17:36,667
ARE AS FOLLOWS --
582
00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:38,567
CHRIS MONEYMAKER IN 2003 WINNING
583
00:17:38,567 --> 00:17:40,200
THE WORLD SERIES OF POKER.
584
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,500
AND THE OTHER STORM --
585
00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:43,700
MIKE SEXTON, PartyPoker, THE
586
00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:45,200
WORLD POKER TOUR.
587
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:45,867
>> HI, EVERYONE.
588
00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:47,367
WELCOME TO THE WORLD POKER TOUR.
589
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,133
WE ARE COMING TO YOU ABOARD
590
00:17:49,133 --> 00:17:50,500
HOLLAND AMERICA'S ms RYNDAM,
591
00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:51,867
HOME OF THE LARGEST FLOATING
592
00:17:51,867 --> 00:17:53,233
POKER GAME IN HISTORY.
593
00:17:53,233 --> 00:17:53,867
I'M MIKE SEXTON.
594
00:17:53,867 --> 00:17:55,400
>> AND I'M VINCE VAN PATTEN, AND
595
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,633
THIS IS THE PartyPoker MILLION.
596
00:17:57,633 --> 00:17:59,367
>> THE WPT WAS THE FIRST,
597
00:17:59,367 --> 00:18:01,367
REALLY, TO TRY TO SELL POKER AS
598
00:18:01,367 --> 00:18:02,800
LIKE A TOUR IN A SPORT.
599
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,800
>> THE RIVER IS A 7.
600
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,767
>> NOT GONNA DO IT.
601
00:18:04,767 --> 00:18:06,167
>> GUS HANSEN HAS WON THIS
602
00:18:06,167 --> 00:18:07,100
TOURNAMENT.
603
00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:09,100
I DON'T THINK IT'S HYPERBOLE TO
604
00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:10,600
SAY IT WAS A PHENOMENON.
605
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,333
PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE NEVER
606
00:18:12,333 --> 00:18:14,233
THOUGHT TO WATCH POKER ON TV OR
607
00:18:14,233 --> 00:18:16,100
REALLY EVEN PLAYED IT THAT MUCH
608
00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:17,800
WERE JUST KIND OF CAPTIVATED BY
609
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,367
IT.
610
00:18:18,367 --> 00:18:20,167
>> IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG TO
611
00:18:20,167 --> 00:18:22,200
REALIZE SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED
612
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,667
HERE, SOMETHING GREAT.
613
00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:25,100
IT WAS HITTING THE VIEWING
614
00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:26,433
PUBLIC IN A WAY THAT IT REALLY
615
00:18:26,433 --> 00:18:28,167
JUST ABSOLUTELY RESONATED.
616
00:18:28,167 --> 00:18:29,867
>> OH! OH!
617
00:18:29,867 --> 00:18:31,367
OH, WOW!
618
00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:33,333
LOOK! VINCE, LOOK!
619
00:18:33,333 --> 00:18:34,467
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
620
00:18:34,467 --> 00:18:36,133
>> NO ONE HAD SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
621
00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:36,400
IT.
622
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,867
YOU GO TURN ON EVERY SINGLE WEEK
623
00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:39,500
ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS, WATCH THIS
624
00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,100
TOURNAMENT, WATCHING ALL THESE
625
00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:42,467
EXCITING PEOPLE, AND ALL OF A
626
00:18:42,467 --> 00:18:43,800
SUDDEN THERE IS A COMMERCIAL
627
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,700
BREAK.
628
00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:45,667
"HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.
629
00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:46,533
THAT'S THE HOST.
630
00:18:46,533 --> 00:18:47,467
THAT'S MIKE SEXTON.
631
00:18:47,467 --> 00:18:48,667
HE WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE
632
00:18:48,667 --> 00:18:49,833
HAND, AND NOW HE'S LIKE --
633
00:18:49,833 --> 00:18:51,167
WHAT'S THAT THING CALLED?
634
00:18:51,167 --> 00:18:52,233
"PARTY" WHAT? PartyPoker?
635
00:18:52,233 --> 00:18:52,700
WHAT'S THAT?
636
00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:53,667
LET ME CHECK THAT OUT.
637
00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:55,400
>> THE PartyPoker ADS MADE SURE
638
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,100
THAT WHEN PEOPLE OPENED THEIR
639
00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:58,600
FIRST ONLINE POKER ACCOUNT, IT
640
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,400
WAS GOING TO BE WITH PartyPoker.
641
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,867
SO THE SITE DIDN'T JUST GROW.
642
00:19:01,867 --> 00:19:02,700
IT EXPLODED.
643
00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,267
>> WITHIN 30 DAYS, WE MULTIPLIED
644
00:19:04,267 --> 00:19:05,233
OUR BUSINESS BY 10.
645
00:19:05,233 --> 00:19:06,467
WE NEVER LOOKED BACK, BECAME THE
646
00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:07,533
LARGEST SITE IN THE WORLD
647
00:19:07,533 --> 00:19:09,700
BECAUSE OF TELEVISION.
648
00:19:17,833 --> 00:19:20,267
>> '03 TO '06 WAS LIKE THE
649
00:19:20,267 --> 00:19:22,833
PartyPoker ERA AND THE BIRTH OF
650
00:19:22,833 --> 00:19:25,367
MODERN ONLINE POKER, AND THE
651
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,267
MONEY WAS JUST EASY.
652
00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:28,667
>> I DO KNOW THAT WHILE I WAS
653
00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:30,267
MAKING A LOT OF MONEY AT ONE
654
00:19:30,267 --> 00:19:31,767
POINT IN TIME, I WAS LOOKING UP
655
00:19:31,767 --> 00:19:33,367
HOW TO BUY AN ISLAND ON eBAY.
656
00:19:33,367 --> 00:19:34,367
[ LAUGHTER ]
657
00:19:34,367 --> 00:19:36,333
I DO KNOW THAT THAT WAS A REAL
658
00:19:36,333 --> 00:19:36,667
THING.
659
00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:37,833
I ACTUALLY TRIED TO FIGURE
660
00:19:37,833 --> 00:19:39,267
OUT -- THERE ARE ISLANDS FOR
661
00:19:39,267 --> 00:19:40,633
SALE ON eBAY, OR THERE WERE AT
662
00:19:40,667 --> 00:19:41,367
THE TIME.
663
00:19:41,367 --> 00:19:42,733
>> I MEAN IT WAS A GOLD MINE FOR
664
00:19:42,733 --> 00:19:43,367
A WHILE.
665
00:19:43,367 --> 00:19:44,667
THERE WAS JUST SO MANY GAMES
666
00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:45,767
RUNNING AND JUST SO MANY
667
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,867
RECREATIONAL PLAYERS.
668
00:19:46,867 --> 00:19:48,833
THERE WAS NO REASON FOR ANYBODY
669
00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:50,833
TO EVEN SURVEY THE COMPETITION.
670
00:19:50,833 --> 00:19:52,267
>> I WAS REALLY BAD BACK THEN,
671
00:19:52,267 --> 00:19:53,533
AND I WAS MAKING SO MUCH MONEY,
672
00:19:53,533 --> 00:19:54,500
'CAUSE PEOPLE WERE JUST
673
00:19:54,533 --> 00:19:55,167
CLUELESS.
674
00:19:55,167 --> 00:19:56,333
>> THERE WERE SO MANY GAMES.
675
00:19:56,333 --> 00:19:57,533
YOU COULD PLAY SO MANY HANDS.
676
00:19:57,533 --> 00:19:58,700
AND THE GAMES WERE JUST THAT
677
00:19:58,700 --> 00:19:59,200
EASY.
678
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,600
>> I DON'T KNOW ANY POINT IN
679
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,500
HISTORY WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
680
00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:04,267
LITTLE TO NO EDUCATION COULD
681
00:20:04,267 --> 00:20:06,133
LEARN SOMETHING SIMPLE ABOUT A
682
00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:07,767
GAME AND THEN JUST PRINT MONEY
683
00:20:07,767 --> 00:20:08,433
AT IT.
684
00:20:08,433 --> 00:20:10,467
>> IT JUST BASICALLY PROVIDED A
685
00:20:10,467 --> 00:20:12,400
LOT OF PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY
686
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,433
FOR LIFETIME FINANCIAL SECURITY
687
00:20:14,433 --> 00:20:16,367
AT A VERY EARLY AGE WITH MINIMAL
688
00:20:16,367 --> 00:20:18,467
SACRIFICE.
689
00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:29,433
>> IT WAS SUCH A RELIEF WHEN I
690
00:20:29,433 --> 00:20:30,867
STARTED MAKING GOOD MONEY IN
691
00:20:30,867 --> 00:20:31,467
POKER.
692
00:20:31,467 --> 00:20:33,200
I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST STARTED
693
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,767
MAKING A LOT OF MONEY AND I WAS
694
00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:36,467
LIVING ON MY OWN IN COLLEGE, I
695
00:20:36,467 --> 00:20:37,767
HAD THE MOST WELL-STOCKED
696
00:20:37,767 --> 00:20:39,400
KITCHEN AND PANTRY YOU WOULD
697
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,867
EVER FIND IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE,
698
00:20:40,867 --> 00:20:42,567
BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,
699
00:20:42,567 --> 00:20:44,200
GETTING GROCERIES WAS LIKE A
700
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,567
HUGE TREAT, AND HAVING THE
701
00:20:45,567 --> 00:20:47,200
CUPBOARDS FULL WAS SOMETHING
702
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,633
THAT HAPPENED AT MY FRIEND'S
703
00:20:48,633 --> 00:20:49,233
HOUSE.
704
00:20:49,233 --> 00:20:50,567
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AT MY HOUSE.
705
00:20:50,567 --> 00:20:53,167
SO, THAT WAS LIKE KIND OF A
706
00:20:53,167 --> 00:20:55,833
SIGNAL OF MY FINANCIAL SUCCESS,
707
00:20:55,833 --> 00:20:57,733
WAS THAT I ALWAYS JUST HAD A TON
708
00:20:57,733 --> 00:20:59,200
OF FOOD IN THE HOUSE.
709
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,800
AND GOING GROCERY SHOPPING, IT'S
710
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,033
STILL REALLY EXCITING TO ME.
711
00:21:04,267 --> 00:21:06,300
>> WELL, WE HAD A SITUATION
712
00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:08,500
WHERE BOTH KIDS -- WE HAD BOTH
713
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:10,600
OF THEM AT THAT TIME, AND WE
714
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,633
DIDN'T HAVE GAS.
715
00:21:11,867 --> 00:21:13,633
THEY SHUT OUR GAS OFF.
716
00:21:13,633 --> 00:21:19,167
SO WE'RE BORROWING SPACE HEATERS
717
00:21:19,167 --> 00:21:21,300
SO WE COULD GET IT WARM ENOUGH
718
00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:23,233
FOR THE KIDS IN THE HOUSE.
719
00:21:23,233 --> 00:21:28,700
SO, YEAH, IT WAS BAD.
720
00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:30,267
>> IT WAS STRESSFUL AS A KID,
721
00:21:30,267 --> 00:21:31,667
KNOWING THAT YOUR PARENTS ARE
722
00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:32,733
WORRIED ABOUT MONEY.
723
00:21:32,733 --> 00:21:34,433
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE A SENSE OF
724
00:21:34,433 --> 00:21:35,833
GUILT IF I NEEDED SOMETHING
725
00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:37,567
'CAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST
726
00:21:37,567 --> 00:21:39,233
GOING TO BE AN ADDED BURDEN.
727
00:21:39,233 --> 00:21:40,700
IT WAS DEFINITELY A WAY OF
728
00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,533
GROWING UP THAT I ALWAYS KNEW I
729
00:21:42,533 --> 00:21:44,433
DIDN'T WANT MY KIDS TO EVER HAVE
730
00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:46,400
TO FEEL LIKE THAT.
731
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,533
>> WELL, DANI HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN
732
00:21:48,533 --> 00:21:50,633
DOING SO WELL AT POKER THAT SHE
733
00:21:50,633 --> 00:21:52,533
IS BUYING LORI A HORSE THAT
734
00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:53,767
SHE'S ALWAYS WANTED.
735
00:21:53,767 --> 00:21:55,400
SHE'S ALWAYS WANTED A HORSE ALL
736
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,300
HER LIFE.
737
00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:58,433
>> SHE REALLY SET ME UP GOOD,
738
00:21:58,433 --> 00:22:00,600
'CAUSE WE WENT TO LOOK AT THIS
739
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,367
HORSE.
740
00:22:01,367 --> 00:22:03,467
ACTUALLY, I WENT TO WATCH HER
741
00:22:03,467 --> 00:22:05,500
RIDE, AND ONE OF THE STABLE
742
00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,467
PEOPLE ASKED ME IF I LIKED
743
00:22:07,467 --> 00:22:09,167
HORSES, AND I SAID, "OH, YEAH.
744
00:22:09,167 --> 00:22:10,133
I LOVE HORSES.
745
00:22:10,133 --> 00:22:11,867
I'D HAVE 20 OF THEM IF I COULD."
746
00:22:11,867 --> 00:22:13,533
AND DANI SAID, "WELL, HOW ABOUT
747
00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,467
JUST ONE, MOM?"
748
00:22:14,467 --> 00:22:16,167
AND THAT'S HOW SHE TOLD ME SHE
749
00:22:16,167 --> 00:22:17,367
WAS BUYING ME A HORSE.
750
00:22:17,367 --> 00:22:18,467
IT WAS REALLY SWEET.
751
00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:19,567
IT WAS REALLY SWEET.
752
00:22:19,567 --> 00:22:21,633
SO IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE
753
00:22:21,633 --> 00:22:23,667
OUT SHE WASN'T PULLING MY LEG,
754
00:22:23,667 --> 00:22:25,300
[ CHUCKLES ]
755
00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:29,500
'CAUSE SHE'S GOOD AT THAT.
756
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,800
>> MY MOM'S JUST KIND OF HAD
757
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,233
SOME ROUGH BREAKS IN LIFE.
758
00:22:32,233 --> 00:22:33,467
SHE'S JUST KIND OF HAD SOME
759
00:22:33,467 --> 00:22:35,100
STRUGGLES THAT SHE'S WORKED HARD
760
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:35,767
TO GET THROUGH.
761
00:22:35,767 --> 00:22:37,300
>> ALL BETTER?
762
00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:39,467
>> SHE'S AN AMAZING WOMAN, AND
763
00:22:39,467 --> 00:22:41,767
SHE DESERVES THE BEST, SO GIVING
764
00:22:41,767 --> 00:22:44,100
HER A HORSE IS JUST SOMETHING
765
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,533
THAT IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO HER
766
00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:48,700
AND IT WOULD MEAN A LOT TO ME.
767
00:22:56,467 --> 00:22:59,533
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
768
00:22:59,533 --> 00:23:00,600
>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING
769
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,367
POKER ROYALTY.
770
00:23:01,367 --> 00:23:02,200
THIS IS BRITTANY.
771
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,100
HOW MAY I DIRECT YOUR CALL?
772
00:23:04,333 --> 00:23:06,267
>> MY NAME IS BRIAN BALSBAUGH,
773
00:23:06,267 --> 00:23:08,267
AND I AM THE FOUNDER OF A POKER
774
00:23:08,267 --> 00:23:09,567
TALENT AGENCY CALLED
775
00:23:09,567 --> 00:23:11,300
POKER ROYALTY.
776
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:13,300
POKER ROYALTY IS AN AGENCY THAT
777
00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:14,600
SPECIALIZES IN THE POKER
778
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,333
INDUSTRY.
779
00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:16,833
SO WE REPRESENT THE BEST POKER
780
00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:18,333
PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR
781
00:23:18,333 --> 00:23:19,867
SPONSORSHIPS AND LICENSING AND
782
00:23:19,867 --> 00:23:21,600
ENDORSEMENT DEALS AND PERSONAL
783
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,200
APPEARANCES AND THINGS LIKE
784
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,767
THAT -- BASICALLY, ANY WAY THEY
785
00:23:24,767 --> 00:23:26,467
CAN MAKE MONEY AS CELEBRITIES
786
00:23:26,467 --> 00:23:27,833
AWAY FROM THE POKER TABLE.
787
00:23:27,833 --> 00:23:29,800
NO ONE KNEW ANYTHING, REALLY,
788
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,733
ABOUT POKER PLAYERS PRIOR TO
789
00:23:31,733 --> 00:23:33,167
2003.
790
00:23:33,167 --> 00:23:35,100
NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE
791
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,133
SEEING THESE GUYS WHO TRAVEL
792
00:23:37,133 --> 00:23:38,700
AROUND THE WORLD, THEY LIVE THIS
793
00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:40,333
KIND OF MAVERICK INDEPENDENT
794
00:23:40,333 --> 00:23:41,867
LIFESTYLE, THEY'RE PLAYING POTS
795
00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:43,533
FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
796
00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:45,100
DOLLARS, THEY'RE WINNING A
797
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:46,567
MILLION AND THE BACK STORIES
798
00:23:46,567 --> 00:23:47,833
WERE SO INTERESTING AND
799
00:23:47,833 --> 00:23:49,600
FANTASTIC THAT THEY WERE ALMOST
800
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,300
MADE-UP CHARACTERS, YOU KNOW,
801
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:54,167
PLAYING OUT IN REAL LIFE.
802
00:23:54,167 --> 00:23:55,667
THE IDEA OF POKER ROYALTY CAME
803
00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:57,167
TO ME ONE DAY WHILE I WAS
804
00:23:57,167 --> 00:23:58,633
WATCHING POKER ON TELEVISION.
805
00:23:58,633 --> 00:24:00,767
I WAS WATCHING ESPN, AND I SAW
806
00:24:00,767 --> 00:24:03,133
SIX GUYS AROUND A POKER TABLE,
807
00:24:03,133 --> 00:24:04,867
AND THE CAMERA COULDN'T GO
808
00:24:04,867 --> 00:24:07,200
ANYWHERE BUT THEIR HATS, THEIR
809
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:07,800
SHIRTS.
810
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,267
NONE OF THEM HAD LOGOS ON, AND I
811
00:24:10,267 --> 00:24:12,200
KNEW THAT TIME ON ESPN WAS
812
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,800
VALUABLE.
813
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,300
I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WOULD SPONSOR
814
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:15,633
THEM OR WHAT THE LOGOS COULD OR
815
00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:17,167
SHOULD BE, BUT I KNEW THAT THERE
816
00:24:17,167 --> 00:24:18,400
WAS VALUABLE INVENTORY THERE
817
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,167
THAT WAS NOT BEING UTILIZED.
818
00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:21,400
AND THIS IS WHERE I GOT LUCKY
819
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,733
AND ALL POKER PLAYERS GOT LUCKY,
820
00:24:22,733 --> 00:24:24,867
BECAUSE THE ONLINE POKER SITES
821
00:24:24,867 --> 00:24:25,867
FILLED THE VOID.
822
00:24:25,867 --> 00:24:27,367
THEY BECAME THE PRIMARY
823
00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:28,800
SPONSORS, THE BIG SPONSORS,
824
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,667
THE COMPANIES THAT WERE FUNDING
825
00:24:30,667 --> 00:24:32,400
POKER, AND FUNDING IT AT AN
826
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,733
UNBELIEVABLE RATE.
827
00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:35,833
MY BASELINE WAS KIND OF THE PGA
828
00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:36,500
TOUR.
829
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:38,500
IF A GUY GOES THROUGH PGA TOUR
830
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:40,367
QUALIFYING SCHOOL, GETS HIS
831
00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:42,467
CARD, HE SHOULD EXPECT SOMEWHERE
832
00:24:42,467 --> 00:24:44,533
BETWEEN $150,000 AND $200,000 A
833
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:46,733
YEAR TO WEAR A LOGO.
834
00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:48,333
SO ORIGINALLY I STARTED ASKING
835
00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:49,800
FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND WE
836
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,400
STARTED GETTING IT RIGHT AWAY.
837
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,567
SO I STARTED ASKING FOR A LITTLE
838
00:24:52,567 --> 00:24:53,700
BIT MORE MONEY, AND A LITTLE BIT
839
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:54,833
MORE MONEY, AND LITTLE BIT MORE
840
00:24:54,833 --> 00:24:56,133
MONEY, AND BEFORE YOU KNEW IT,
841
00:24:56,133 --> 00:24:57,133
WE WERE DOING SEVEN-FIGURE
842
00:24:57,133 --> 00:24:58,800
SPONSORSHIP DEALS, WHICH BLOW
843
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,567
AWAY THE NUMBERS THAT I WAS
844
00:25:00,567 --> 00:25:02,267
DOING IN THE PGA TOUR, AND
845
00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:03,800
AS THE BOOM HIT, SO DID MY
846
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,233
BUSINESS.
847
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:09,867
>> WELCOME BACK TO THE WORLD
848
00:25:09,867 --> 00:25:11,433
POKER TOUR, AND DON'T CHANGE
849
00:25:11,433 --> 00:25:13,333
THAT DIAL, FOLKS.
850
00:25:13,333 --> 00:25:15,100
>> THE WPT CAME ON WHEN I WAS A
851
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,667
SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND THE
852
00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:18,467
MOMENT I FOUND IT, THAT'S WHAT I
853
00:25:18,467 --> 00:25:20,200
DID WITH MY WEDNESDAY NIGHTS.
854
00:25:20,433 --> 00:25:22,100
IT WAS ON FOR TWO HOURS, FROM,
855
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:23,500
LIKE, 8:00 TO 10:00, I THINK,
856
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,100
AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS EVERY
857
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,200
WEDNESDAY FROM 8:00 TO 10:00.
858
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,733
IT WAS JUST A GREAT INTRODUCTION
859
00:25:28,733 --> 00:25:29,467
TO POKER.
860
00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:30,800
THEY EXPLAINED HOW THE GAME WAS
861
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,667
PLAYED.
862
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,300
THEY TRIED TO SET UP THE
863
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:34,733
PERSONALITIES OF THE GAME, AND I
864
00:25:34,733 --> 00:25:36,400
LOOKED UP TO ALL OF THESE GUYS I
865
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,733
SAW ON TELEVISION AND THOUGHT
866
00:25:37,733 --> 00:25:38,867
THEY JUST HAD THE MOST
867
00:25:38,867 --> 00:25:40,167
GLAMOROUS, INTERESTING
868
00:25:40,167 --> 00:25:41,533
LIFESTYLE AND THAT IF YOU MET
869
00:25:41,533 --> 00:25:42,867
THEM, THEY WOULD BE THE MOST
870
00:25:42,867 --> 00:25:44,500
FASCINATING, CHARMING, HILARIOUS
871
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:46,133
GUY POSSIBLE, AND THAT WAS WHAT
872
00:25:46,133 --> 00:25:48,067
I ASPIRED TO AND LOOKED UP TO.
873
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:51,433
I WAS SUCH A BLATANT FANBOY
874
00:25:51,433 --> 00:25:53,200
DURING THAT ERA, THAT I WAS
875
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,700
LOOKING FOR ANY WAY TO GET
876
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,567
INVOLVED, JUST ANYTHING TO GET
877
00:25:56,567 --> 00:25:58,367
IN CONTACT WITH POKER AND BE
878
00:25:58,367 --> 00:26:00,300
PART OF THAT WORLD.
879
00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:01,133
>> SEAN GIBSON,
880
00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:02,533
POKER NEWS DAILY, HERE WITH TWO
881
00:26:02,533 --> 00:26:03,833
OF THE STALWARTS OF THE POKER
882
00:26:03,833 --> 00:26:05,100
INDUSTRY, MIKE SEXTON,
883
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:06,100
VINCE VAN PATTEN.
884
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,133
YOU GUYS ARE HERE.
885
00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:08,200
THIS IS LIKE I'M ON
886
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,167
"AMERICAN IDOL."
887
00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:12,767
WE'RE HERE FOR "THE RAW DEAL."
888
00:26:12,767 --> 00:26:14,233
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE JUST OFF THE
889
00:26:14,233 --> 00:26:15,567
STREET, PEOPLE FLYING FROM ALL
890
00:26:15,567 --> 00:26:16,800
OVER TRYING OUT FOR THIS NEW
891
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,400
SEGMENT.
892
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,733
THIS IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR
893
00:26:18,733 --> 00:26:20,133
JUST ABOUT ANYONE WHO LOVES
894
00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:20,600
POKER.
895
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,267
>> WELL, IT REALLY IS, AND WE'RE
896
00:26:22,267 --> 00:26:23,633
SEEING ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TRY
897
00:26:23,633 --> 00:26:25,167
OUT FOR THIS ROLE, HONESTLY.
898
00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:25,800
>> WELCOME BACK TO
899
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,700
THE WORLD POKER TOUR.
900
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:27,833
THIS IS A BRAND-NEW SEGMENT WE
901
00:26:27,833 --> 00:26:29,133
LIKE TO CALL "THE RAW DEAL."
902
00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:29,700
>> SHIP IT PHIL!
903
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:30,300
JAM 'EM!
904
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:31,433
YOUR CHIPS SHOULD HAVE LEFT
905
00:26:31,433 --> 00:26:32,267
SKID MARKS THERE.
906
00:26:32,267 --> 00:26:33,467
>> ANDY, YOU PLAY LIKE A DONKEY!
907
00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:35,733
HEE-HAW! AND YOU GET THE PRIZE!
908
00:26:35,733 --> 00:26:37,800
>> WE ENGAGED IN AN EXTENSIVE
909
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,600
SEARCH.
910
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,333
WE HAD OPEN AUDITIONS.
911
00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,167
WE HAD AUDITIONS ONLINE.
912
00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:43,300
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CHARACTER
913
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:44,467
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE OPPOSITE
914
00:26:44,467 --> 00:26:45,533
OF US, WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO
915
00:26:45,533 --> 00:26:46,733
SCREAM OUT THERE, "WHAT A MORON!
916
00:26:46,733 --> 00:26:47,433
WHAT AN IDIOT!
917
00:26:47,433 --> 00:26:48,633
HOW CAN THIS GUY EVER MAKE IT TO
918
00:26:48,633 --> 00:26:50,033
THE FINAL TABLE?"
919
00:26:50,267 --> 00:26:51,833
>> THIS WAS A VERY RISKY
920
00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:52,667
DECISION.
921
00:26:52,667 --> 00:26:54,567
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN, QUITE
922
00:26:54,567 --> 00:26:56,567
FRANKLY, A DISASTER.
923
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,100
>> TELL US YOUR NAME AND WHERE
924
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:58,533
YOU'RE FROM.
925
00:26:58,533 --> 00:26:59,733
>> MY NAME IS TONY DUNST.
926
00:26:59,733 --> 00:27:01,333
I CURRENTLY RESIDE IN LAS VEGAS,
927
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:02,700
AND I PLAY POKER FOR A LIVING.
928
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,467
WHEN I SAW THE AUDITION FORM
929
00:27:04,467 --> 00:27:06,367
FOR WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR,
930
00:27:06,367 --> 00:27:08,200
I JUMPED AT THE IDEA BECAUSE I
931
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,467
WAS LIKE, "THAT'S ME.
932
00:27:09,467 --> 00:27:11,200
THEY WANT A GUY TO ACT AS I
933
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,800
NATURALLY ACT."
934
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,233
IF I SEE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL
935
00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:14,533
POKER PLAYER ACTING LIKE THEY'RE
936
00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:15,800
TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL, I HAVE NO
937
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,467
QUALMS ABOUT CALLING THEM OUT.
938
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:19,867
WHAT THEY DID FOR THE FIRST
939
00:27:19,867 --> 00:27:22,267
AUDITION WAS SHOW YOU A CLIP
940
00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:24,533
WHERE AT A FINAL TABLE AT THE
941
00:27:24,533 --> 00:27:26,433
BAY 101, ANDY SETH AND
942
00:27:26,433 --> 00:27:27,567
PHIL HELLMUTH GET IT IN
943
00:27:27,567 --> 00:27:28,700
BLIND VERSUS BLIND WITH
944
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,167
ANDY SETH'S ACE-JACK VERSUS
945
00:27:30,167 --> 00:27:34,200
PHIL HELLMUTH'S POCKET QUEENS.
946
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,367
ANDY HITS AN ACE ON THE RIVER.
947
00:27:36,367 --> 00:27:40,433
[ INDISTINCT SHOUTING ]
948
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:42,433
PHIL WALKS OFF THE TABLE, AND
949
00:27:42,433 --> 00:27:44,200
THEN HE, LIKE, CRUMPLES OVER
950
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,800
INTO THE FETAL POSITION AND IS
951
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,633
HAVING A PHIL MOMENT, WHATEVER
952
00:27:47,633 --> 00:27:48,567
THE HELL THAT IS.
953
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:50,733
SO WHEN THEY DID THAT AUDITION,
954
00:27:50,733 --> 00:27:52,833
THE LINE I CAME UP WITH WAS...
955
00:27:52,833 --> 00:27:54,733
I LIKE TO THINK OF PHIL HELLMUTH
956
00:27:54,733 --> 00:27:56,667
AS A CLOWN IN THE LITERAL SENSE,
957
00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:58,433
IN THAT HE IS A MAN WHO WILL
958
00:27:58,433 --> 00:28:00,333
BEHAVE WITHOUT DIGNITY FOR A SET
959
00:28:00,333 --> 00:28:02,267
FEE, WHICH I SUPPOSE YOU COULD
960
00:28:02,267 --> 00:28:04,367
ALSO CALL A [BLEEP] AND SEEING
961
00:28:04,367 --> 00:28:05,667
AS THAT PHIL WAS ON HIS KNEES AT
962
00:28:05,667 --> 00:28:07,200
THE TIME, I'LL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE
963
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,433
UP YOUR OWN MIND.
964
00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:10,100
AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS
965
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,100
PROBABLY THE LINE THAT STUCK OUT
966
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,567
A LITTLE BIT, THAT I WAS WILLING
967
00:28:13,567 --> 00:28:15,100
TO TAKE SOME GAMBLES IN THE
968
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:16,567
INTERVIEW PROCESS AND SAY WHAT I
969
00:28:16,567 --> 00:28:17,800
FELT LIKE WAS THE KIND OF
970
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,300
OUTLANDISH THINGS THEY WERE
971
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:20,100
LOOKING FOR.
972
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:21,500
SO THE NEXT DAY THEY CALLED ME
973
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:23,167
WHILE I WAS IN THE AIRPORT, AND
974
00:28:23,167 --> 00:28:24,500
SAID," WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER
975
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,133
YOU A JOB," SO HERE WE ARE.
976
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,700
I WOULD SAY MY POKER DREAM IS
977
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:50,267
TO, YOU KNOW, SOMEDAY OBTAIN A
978
00:28:50,267 --> 00:28:51,433
SPONSORSHIP.
979
00:28:51,433 --> 00:28:53,333
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A MEANS
980
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:54,833
TO MAKE SOME INCOME WITHOUT
981
00:28:54,833 --> 00:28:56,700
PHYSICALLY SITTING AT THE TABLE
982
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:58,100
AND PLAYING POKER.
983
00:28:58,100 --> 00:28:59,467
AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE
984
00:28:59,467 --> 00:28:59,800
COOL.
985
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,433
IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE -- IT'S
986
00:29:01,433 --> 00:29:02,867
THE KID THAT GROWS UP AND WANTS
987
00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:03,833
TO BE IN THE NBA.
988
00:29:03,833 --> 00:29:05,500
IT WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE A TEAM
989
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:06,800
TO IDENTIFY WITH THAT.
990
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,867
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I
991
00:29:07,867 --> 00:29:08,800
THINK IT WOULD BE A NEAT
992
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,167
EXPERIENCE AND SOMETHING I WOULD
993
00:29:10,167 --> 00:29:13,367
BE REALLY PROUD OF.
994
00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:14,867
THE BEST WAY TO GET SPONSORED,
995
00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:16,300
REALLY, IS TO WIN A BIG
996
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:17,800
TOURNAMENT AND GET SOME MEDIA
997
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,833
COVERAGE THAT WAY.
998
00:29:18,833 --> 00:29:20,467
AND THIS YEAR I'VE DECIDED TO
999
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:21,867
PLAY MORE TOURNAMENTS IN THE
1000
00:29:21,867 --> 00:29:23,567
HOPES OF GETTING CLOSER TO THAT
1001
00:29:23,567 --> 00:29:25,100
SPONSORSHIP GOAL.
1002
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,333
>> THE IDEA THAT DANI MIGHT BE
1003
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,333
TRAVELING AROUND MORE AND
1004
00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:31,567
ATTEMPTING TO GET SPONSORSHIP
1005
00:29:31,567 --> 00:29:33,600
AND TO BE A PERSONALITY IN
1006
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,500
POKER I THINK IS GREAT.
1007
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,533
[ SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY ]
1008
00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:40,333
THE SECURITY THAT BEING
1009
00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:43,833
SPONSORED WOULD BRING, YOU KNOW,
1010
00:29:43,833 --> 00:29:45,567
I THINK IS PRETTY VALUABLE.
1011
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,567
>> FOLKS IT'S TOUGH TO MAKE
1012
00:29:47,567 --> 00:29:49,167
THESE WPT FINAL TABLES.
1013
00:29:49,167 --> 00:29:50,367
PHIL IVEY HAS DONE IT EIGHT
1014
00:29:50,367 --> 00:29:51,800
TIMES, MORE THAN ANY OTHER
1015
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,367
PLAYER IN THE WORLD.
1016
00:29:53,367 --> 00:29:53,867
>> I CALL.
1017
00:29:53,867 --> 00:29:55,233
>> AND HE MAKES THE CALL!
1018
00:29:55,233 --> 00:29:56,467
AND PHIL IVEY HAS DONE IT!
1019
00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:57,567
IT IS OVER!
1020
00:29:57,567 --> 00:29:59,667
PHIL IVEY IS OUR CHAMPION!
1021
00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:01,433
>> I THINK FULL TILT POKER WOULD
1022
00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:03,200
BE THE BEST SITE TO BE SPONSORED
1023
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,500
BY.
1024
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,167
I FEEL KIND OF LOYAL, BECAUSE
1025
00:30:05,167 --> 00:30:06,733
IT'S JUST WHERE I'VE PLAYED MOST
1026
00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:08,400
OF MY CAREER, AND I THINK IT
1027
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,200
WOULD BE COOL TO BE ON THE SAME
1028
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,767
TEAM, BE SPONSORED BY THE SAME
1029
00:30:11,767 --> 00:30:14,167
SITE AS, YOU KNOW, PHIL IVEY.
1030
00:30:30,167 --> 00:30:31,767
>> THE THING THEY DID HANDS DOWN
1031
00:30:31,767 --> 00:30:33,567
BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE AT THE
1032
00:30:33,567 --> 00:30:34,867
BEGINNING WAS MARKETING.
1033
00:30:34,867 --> 00:30:36,867
FULL TILT'S MARKETING CAMPAIGN
1034
00:30:36,867 --> 00:30:39,700
JUST LOOKED MADISON AVENUE.
1035
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:41,767
>> THIS WAS, "PLAY WITH THE
1036
00:30:41,767 --> 00:30:42,467
PROS.
1037
00:30:42,467 --> 00:30:43,800
WE ARE THE BEST."
1038
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
IT WAS TEAM FULL TILT.
1039
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,467
THESE WERE THE BIG GUYS.
1040
00:30:50,467 --> 00:30:52,500
>> * FULL TILT
1041
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,667
>> FULL TILT POKER WAS
1042
00:30:53,667 --> 00:30:54,800
ESSENTIALLY FOUNDED BY
1043
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,800
HOWARD LEDERER AND
1044
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,200
CHRIS "JESUS" FERGUSON.
1045
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,700
JESUS WAS A WORLD CHAMPION AND
1046
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,200
WON THE WORLD SERIES MAIN EVENT.
1047
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,500
HOWARD LEDERER WAS A BRACELET
1048
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:01,867
WINNER.
1049
00:31:01,867 --> 00:31:03,400
>> YOU KNOW, THESE AREN'T EASY
1050
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:03,800
TO WIN.
1051
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,300
>> THEY WERE PLAYERS' PLAYERS.
1052
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:06,567
LIKE, EVERYONE KNEW WHO THEY
1053
00:31:06,567 --> 00:31:09,000
WERE.
1054
00:31:09,233 --> 00:31:10,567
>> THEY WERE DEFINITELY THE COOL
1055
00:31:10,567 --> 00:31:11,367
KIDS IN SCHOOL.
1056
00:31:11,367 --> 00:31:12,867
I MEAN, THEY BUILT A TEAM OF
1057
00:31:12,867 --> 00:31:14,700
PLAYERS THAT EVERYONE WANTED TO
1058
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,533
KNOW ABOUT AND PLAY AGAINST AND
1059
00:31:16,533 --> 00:31:17,267
BE LIKE.
1060
00:31:17,267 --> 00:31:18,333
>> WHAT, YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU
1061
00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:19,433
DRESS LIKE ME, YOU CAN PLAY LIKE
1062
00:31:19,433 --> 00:31:20,300
ME?
1063
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,467
>> WHEN FULL TILT STARTED, THEY
1064
00:31:22,467 --> 00:31:24,667
DEFINITELY RECOGNIZED THAT IVEY
1065
00:31:24,667 --> 00:31:26,100
WAS A REAL STAR.
1066
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,133
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
1067
00:31:27,133 --> 00:31:28,467
PHIL IVEY.
1068
00:31:28,467 --> 00:31:30,467
HE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN NUMBER
1069
00:31:30,467 --> 00:31:32,533
ONE, BUT HE QUICKLY BECAME THE
1070
00:31:32,533 --> 00:31:34,100
NUMBER-ONE PLAYER IN THE WORLD.
1071
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,200
>> I'M JOINED BY A MAN WHO ONLY
1072
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,633
NEEDS ONE NAME, IVEY.
1073
00:31:37,633 --> 00:31:39,300
>> THE BIGGER PHIL IVEY GOT, THE
1074
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:40,600
BIGGER FULL TILT POKER GOT.
1075
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,167
>> I FEEL VERY FLATTERED WHEN
1076
00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:43,500
PEOPLE SAY THAT I'M THE BEST
1077
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:44,100
PLAYER.
1078
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,267
>> THESE CELEBRITIES WEREN'T
1079
00:31:45,267 --> 00:31:46,333
JUST ENDORSING FULL TILT.
1080
00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:47,600
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PART OWNERS.
1081
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,167
SO IF YOU WANTED TO PLAY ON THE
1082
00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:50,367
SITE, YOU FELT IT WAS SAFE
1083
00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:51,733
BECAUSE THIS WAS WHERE THE PROS
1084
00:31:51,733 --> 00:31:52,400
WERE PLAYING.
1085
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,733
>> TO LEARN, CHAT, AND PLAY WITH
1086
00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:55,167
THE PROS, GO WHERE THEY LIVE,
1087
00:31:55,167 --> 00:31:56,733
fulltiltpoker.com.
1088
00:31:56,733 --> 00:31:57,733
>> THEY WERE MASSIVELY
1089
00:31:57,733 --> 00:31:59,267
SUCCESSFUL, AND I KNOW THAT THEY
1090
00:31:59,267 --> 00:32:00,400
BELIEVED IN THEIR BUSINESS
1091
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,733
MODEL.
1092
00:32:00,733 --> 00:32:03,367
>> RAY BITAR, THE C.E.O. OF
1093
00:32:03,367 --> 00:32:05,100
fulltiltpoker.net.
1094
00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:06,133
>> ON BEHALF OF
1095
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:07,367
fulltiltpoker.net, I'D LIKE TO
1096
00:32:07,367 --> 00:32:08,633
PRESENT THIS FIRST-PLACE CHECK.
1097
00:32:08,633 --> 00:32:09,833
>> NO ONE KNEW WHO RAY WAS
1098
00:32:09,833 --> 00:32:11,300
BEFORE HE GOT INTO POKER.
1099
00:32:11,533 --> 00:32:13,300
HE WAS JUST A DAY TRADER WHO WAS
1100
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:14,667
LIVING IN L.A., AND HE JUST
1101
00:32:14,667 --> 00:32:16,400
HAPPENED TO BE SHARING THE SAME
1102
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800
SPACE AS CHRIS FERGUSON.
1103
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,433
>> FULL TILT POKER WAS OWNED AND
1104
00:32:20,433 --> 00:32:21,833
OPERATED BY PROFESSIONAL POKER
1105
00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:23,400
PLAYERS WHO DIDN'T NECESSARILY
1106
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200
HAVE BUSINESS EXPERIENCE.
1107
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,167
>> FROM 10 FEET AWAY, I CAN
1108
00:32:26,167 --> 00:32:27,233
THROW A PLAYING CARD THROUGH A
1109
00:32:27,233 --> 00:32:29,267
CARROT.
1110
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,133
>> BUT ONCE AGAIN THEY WERE
1111
00:32:31,133 --> 00:32:32,767
MAKING MONEY.
1112
00:32:36,667 --> 00:32:40,233
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
1113
00:32:40,233 --> 00:32:41,400
>> * COME ON AND DO IT
1114
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,367
* DO IT, DO IT
1115
00:32:42,367 --> 00:32:43,267
* DO IT, DO IT
1116
00:32:43,267 --> 00:32:44,267
>> I'M VERY EXCITED.
1117
00:32:44,267 --> 00:32:45,633
ALWAYS THRILLED WHEN I CAN PLAY
1118
00:32:45,633 --> 00:32:46,167
POKER.
1119
00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:47,567
NOT ONLY THAT, PLAYING POKER FOR
1120
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:48,867
A CHARITY FOR A GOOD CAUSE IS
1121
00:32:48,867 --> 00:32:50,467
FANTASTIC.
1122
00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:51,533
>> HOW HAVE YOU FELT SO FAR
1123
00:32:51,533 --> 00:32:52,600
ABOUT YOUR NEW ROLE IN THE
1124
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,400
WORLD POKER TOUR?
1125
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,500
>> I FEEL GREAT ABOUT IT.
1126
00:32:54,733 --> 00:32:55,767
IT'S QUITE A SHOCK AND
1127
00:32:55,767 --> 00:32:56,467
EVERYTHING.
1128
00:32:56,467 --> 00:32:57,700
I MEAN IT ALL HAPPENED VERY,
1129
00:32:57,700 --> 00:32:58,667
VERY QUICKLY FOR ME.
1130
00:32:58,667 --> 00:33:00,200
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BARELY BEEN
1131
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,400
LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
1132
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,733
LONG, AND THEY OFFERED ME A JOB.
1133
00:33:02,733 --> 00:33:04,100
>> SO WHAT'S YOUR STRATEGY,
1134
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,233
GIVEN THE STRUCTURE OF THE
1135
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,267
FIELD, THE CRAZINESS?
1136
00:33:07,267 --> 00:33:08,833
>> MY INTENTION IS TO GET DRUNK
1137
00:33:08,833 --> 00:33:10,433
AND SEE WHERE IT TAKES ME.
1138
00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:10,800
YEAH.
1139
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,433
>> I'M MIKE SEXTON.
1140
00:33:12,433 --> 00:33:13,767
ON BEHALF OF MYSELF,
1141
00:33:13,767 --> 00:33:15,133
VINCE VAN PATTEN,
1142
00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:16,867
KIMBERLY LANSING, TONY DUNST,
1143
00:33:16,867 --> 00:33:18,467
AND THE ROYAL FLUSH GIRLS, WE
1144
00:33:18,467 --> 00:33:20,100
WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE MOST
1145
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,467
FUN EVENT ON THE WORLD POKER
1146
00:33:21,467 --> 00:33:24,500
TOUR, THE WPT INVITATIONAL.
1147
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:28,267
[ APPLAUSE ]
1148
00:33:28,267 --> 00:33:29,700
>> HELLO. HOW ARE YOU DOING?
1149
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:30,633
DON, RIGHT?
1150
00:33:30,633 --> 00:33:33,733
TONY. NICE TO MEET YOU.
1151
00:33:33,733 --> 00:33:34,667
>> HEY, DON.
1152
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:35,600
>> HEY, MAN.
1153
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,300
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
1154
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:39,100
>> IT'S PRETTY SURREAL TO BE
1155
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,767
ATTENDING THIS EVENT, WORKING
1156
00:33:40,767 --> 00:33:42,667
FOR THE WPT, AND MINGLING WITH
1157
00:33:42,667 --> 00:33:44,533
SOME MAINSTREAM CELEBRITIES AS
1158
00:33:44,533 --> 00:33:46,467
WELL AS THESE POKER CELEBRITIES,
1159
00:33:46,467 --> 00:33:49,300
WHO MAYBE EVEN MONTHS EARLIER
1160
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:52,167
HAD NO IDEA WHO I WAS, AND NOW
1161
00:33:52,167 --> 00:33:53,500
I'M VERY MUCH A PART OF THE
1162
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,200
FABRIC OF THE POKER COMMUNITY.
1163
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,867
THERE YOU GO, MAN.
1164
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:56,567
>> THANK YOU.
1165
00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:57,267
>> NO SWEAT.
1166
00:33:57,267 --> 00:33:57,867
IT'S JUST WEIRD.
1167
00:33:57,867 --> 00:34:00,100
WEIRD HOW IT WORKS OUT.
1168
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:01,867
>> SO DO YOU GO TO ALL THE
1169
00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:03,600
TOURNAMENTS?
1170
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,600
>> NO, NOT YET.
1171
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,400
THEY'VE ONLY GOT ME CONTRACTED
1172
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,800
FOR THE WEST COAST STUFF,
1173
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,833
LAS VEGAS, AND THE EVENT IN
1174
00:34:09,833 --> 00:34:10,533
INDIANA.
1175
00:34:10,533 --> 00:34:12,300
WHETHER THAT IS EXTENDED IN THE
1176
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,133
FOLLOWING YEARS AND THEY WANT ME
1177
00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:15,600
ALL OVER THE STATES, OVER TO
1178
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,367
EUROPE, THINGS LIKE THAT -- YET
1179
00:34:17,367 --> 00:34:18,167
TO BE SEEN.
1180
00:34:18,167 --> 00:34:19,667
I GUESS IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON
1181
00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:21,333
HOW THIS SEASON GOES FOR THE
1182
00:34:21,333 --> 00:34:22,833
WPT, WHAT THE RECEPTION IS LIKE
1183
00:34:22,833 --> 00:34:23,767
FOR THE SEGMENT.
1184
00:34:23,767 --> 00:34:25,333
BUT I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AT
1185
00:34:25,333 --> 00:34:26,533
BEING A PROFESSIONAL AT
1186
00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:27,233
ANYTHING.
1187
00:34:27,233 --> 00:34:29,267
I'VE SPENT EIGHT YEARS WITHOUT A
1188
00:34:29,267 --> 00:34:31,267
RESPONSIBILITY OR OBLIGATION IN
1189
00:34:31,267 --> 00:34:32,267
THE WORLD.
1190
00:34:32,267 --> 00:34:33,500
AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I
1191
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:34,800
APPRECIATE ALL THIS AND I LOVE
1192
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,400
THE FACT THAT THEY ACTUALLY GAVE
1193
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,767
ME A SHOT AT BEING A REAL PERSON
1194
00:34:37,767 --> 00:34:39,300
AGAIN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M
1195
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:40,433
DOING.
1196
00:34:46,467 --> 00:34:48,200
>> THE TOURNAMENT STARTS IN
1197
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,867
10 MINUTES.
1198
00:34:48,867 --> 00:34:51,367
TOURNAMENT STARTS IN 10 MINUTES.
1199
00:34:51,367 --> 00:34:53,567
DEALERS, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE...
1200
00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:58,667
[ INDISTINCT TALKING ]
1201
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,600
>> I'M AT COMMERCE CASINO.
1202
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,433
I'M GOING TO PLAY THE LAPC AND
1203
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,100
THE 10K MAIN EVENT.
1204
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,367
I'M LATE RIGHT NOW.
1205
00:35:05,367 --> 00:35:07,300
I'M LIKE 20 MINUTES LATE, BUT
1206
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:08,500
THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
1207
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:09,800
I LIKE SHOWING UP LATE ANYWAYS,
1208
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,300
'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE SITTING AT
1209
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:12,600
THE TABLE WHILE EVERYBODY WALKS
1210
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:12,867
UP.
1211
00:35:12,867 --> 00:35:14,167
IT JUST MAKES ME NERVOUS.
1212
00:35:14,167 --> 00:35:15,467
>> THE BUTTON STARTS AT SEAT
1213
00:35:15,467 --> 00:35:16,167
NUMBER ONE.
1214
00:35:16,167 --> 00:35:17,400
THE BLINDS ARE $50 AND $100.
1215
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,867
PLEASE SHUFFLE UP AND DEAL.
1216
00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:19,400
>> HI.
1217
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,767
>> IS THAT YOUR NUMBER, THE ONE
1218
00:35:20,767 --> 00:35:21,733
YOU CALLED ME WITH?
1219
00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:22,333
>> YEAH.
1220
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:23,600
>> WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, NOEL?
1221
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,200
>> NOEL.
1222
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,200
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
1223
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,767
I'M DANIELLE.
1224
00:35:25,767 --> 00:35:28,733
FULL TILT POKER HAS JUST GIVEN
1225
00:35:28,733 --> 00:35:30,333
ME A RAKEBACK DEAL, SO I JUST
1226
00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:31,567
GET SOME EXTRA RAKEBACK.
1227
00:35:31,567 --> 00:35:33,200
SO IT'S NOT A SPONSORSHIP, BUT
1228
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,733
IT'S JUST MORE SO SOMETHING THAT
1229
00:35:34,733 --> 00:35:36,433
I THINK IT'S AT LEAST DEVELOPING
1230
00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:37,700
A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
1231
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,300
AND HOPEFULLY IT CAN LEAD TO
1232
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:40,700
SOMETHING MORE IN THE FUTURE,
1233
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:42,233
THAT WOULD BE PRETTY SWEET,
1234
00:35:42,233 --> 00:35:44,267
SO...
1235
00:36:12,633 --> 00:36:13,733
MY WHOLE POKER CAREER, I'VE
1236
00:36:13,733 --> 00:36:14,800
PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS BEEN IN
1237
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,100
SCHOOL.
1238
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,800
SO I'VE NEVER REALLY FULLY GIVEN
1239
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,400
POKER MY ATTENTION.
1240
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,300
AND I THINK I JUST WANT TO KNOW
1241
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:27,767
WHAT I CAN DO.
1242
00:36:27,767 --> 00:36:29,533
OBTAINING A SPONSORSHIP FOR ME
1243
00:36:29,533 --> 00:36:31,300
IS MORE OF LIKE A CONFIRMATION
1244
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,133
OF MY ACHIEVEMENTS.
1245
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:36,133
IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE, LIKE,
1246
00:36:36,133 --> 00:36:38,500
AFFIRMING THAT, YEAH, I'VE
1247
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,467
PROVEN MYSELF AS A POKER PLAYER.
1248
00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:43,467
AND I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA OF
1249
00:36:43,467 --> 00:36:45,300
THAT.
1250
00:36:53,467 --> 00:36:54,767
>> I'VE NEVER REALLY BEEN
1251
00:36:54,767 --> 00:36:56,500
INTERESTED IN THE SPONSORSHIP OF
1252
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:58,267
POKER OR THE CELEBRITY OF POKER.
1253
00:36:58,267 --> 00:36:59,700
I MEAN, FOR ME IT'S ALL ABOUT
1254
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:01,433
THE GAME.
1255
00:37:01,433 --> 00:37:03,467
A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME LIKE, YOU
1256
00:37:03,467 --> 00:37:05,200
KNOW, "OH, ONLINE POKER --
1257
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,600
THAT'S NOT REAL POKER.
1258
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,100
HOW CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT
1259
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,600
SOMEONE'S DOING IF YOU CAN'T SEE
1260
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,333
THEM?"
1261
00:37:10,333 --> 00:37:12,567
AND THE EXAMPLE I ALWAYS GIVE IS
1262
00:37:12,567 --> 00:37:13,867
THAT IF THE SIX BEST POKER
1263
00:37:13,867 --> 00:37:15,533
PLAYERS WERE PLAYING LIVE POKER
1264
00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:17,200
WITH EACH OTHER, I MEAN, THESE
1265
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,533
GUYS DON'T HAVE POKER FACE.
1266
00:37:18,533 --> 00:37:20,167
WELL, THEY'VE ALL GOT A REALLY
1267
00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:21,100
GOOD POKER FACE.
1268
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:22,533
THEY'RE NOT GIVING AWAY TELLS
1269
00:37:22,533 --> 00:37:24,233
PHYSICALLY -- OR NOT MANY -- SO,
1270
00:37:24,233 --> 00:37:25,333
I MEAN, IF THESE GUYS WERE
1271
00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:26,433
PLAYING, WOULD THEY JUST BE
1272
00:37:26,433 --> 00:37:27,700
FLIPPING COINS WITH EACH OTHER?
1273
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:28,433
OF COURSE NOT.
1274
00:37:28,433 --> 00:37:30,167
THEY'RE PLAYING SOME GAME, SO, I
1275
00:37:30,167 --> 00:37:31,667
MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ONLINE
1276
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:32,433
POKER IS.
1277
00:37:32,433 --> 00:37:34,100
IT'S JUST LIKE SIX GUYS WITH
1278
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,700
REALLY GOOD POKER FACES PLAYING
1279
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:38,800
POKER TOGETHER.
1280
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,800
>> IT USED TO BE THAT POKER WAS
1281
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,800
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE PLAYED IN
1282
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,433
PERSON, OVER THE TABLE.
1283
00:37:44,433 --> 00:37:46,233
THERE WAS NO RECORD OF WHAT
1284
00:37:46,233 --> 00:37:46,867
HAPPENED.
1285
00:37:46,867 --> 00:37:48,800
YOU ONLY GOT TO PLAY 20 OR 30
1286
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,867
HANDS AN HOUR.
1287
00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:52,700
IT WAS A VERY SLOW-MOVING GAME.
1288
00:37:53,133 --> 00:37:54,833
IT WAS VERY HARD TO GET AN IDEA
1289
00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:56,700
OF WHO WAS WINNING AND WHO WAS
1290
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:58,600
LOSING AND WHAT WAS WORKING AND
1291
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,600
WHAT WASN'T.
1292
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,133
>> BEFORE ONLINE POKER, EVERYONE
1293
00:38:01,133 --> 00:38:02,267
WAS TERRIBLE AT THE GAME.
1294
00:38:02,267 --> 00:38:03,400
IT'S SUCH A COMPLEX GAME.
1295
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,733
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PLAYING
1296
00:38:04,733 --> 00:38:05,867
TICKTACKTOE WHEN THEY WERE
1297
00:38:05,867 --> 00:38:06,867
TRYING TO PLAY CHESS.
1298
00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:08,367
NOWADAYS WITH ONLINE POKER,
1299
00:38:08,367 --> 00:38:09,700
PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY SOFTWARE
1300
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:10,400
PROGRAMS.
1301
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,767
YOU CAN CALCULATE THE ODDS OF
1302
00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:13,133
ANY SITUATION YOU WANT.
1303
00:38:13,133 --> 00:38:14,300
YOU CAN DRAW COMPLEX TREES,
1304
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:15,533
SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF THIS GUY
1305
00:38:15,533 --> 00:38:16,800
DOES THIS ON THE FLOP AND THIS
1306
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,233
GUY DOES THIS ON CERTAIN TURN
1307
00:38:18,233 --> 00:38:19,433
CARDS, WHAT'S THE EQUITY WHEN
1308
00:38:19,467 --> 00:38:20,500
THIS RIVER CARD COMES?
1309
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:21,700
>> BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO
1310
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,867
PLAY SO MANY HANDS OF ONLINE
1311
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,333
POKER IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,
1312
00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:25,500
ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE WERE
1313
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:26,533
ABLE TO ACCESS PIECES OF
1314
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:27,800
STATISTICAL INFORMATION THEY HAD
1315
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,200
NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
1316
00:38:29,433 --> 00:38:31,267
PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO SAY LIKE,
1317
00:38:31,267 --> 00:38:33,133
YOU KNOW, "HOW DID I FARE WITH
1318
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:34,867
POCKET ACES OVER THE LAST 20,000
1319
00:38:34,867 --> 00:38:35,800
HANDS?"
1320
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,300
LIKE, 20,000 HANDS IS PROBABLY
1321
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:38,600
MORE HANDS THAN MOST LIVE POKER
1322
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,833
PLAYERS HAVE PLAYED IN THEIR
1323
00:38:39,833 --> 00:38:40,467
LIFETIME.
1324
00:38:40,467 --> 00:38:42,267
THAT'S A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION,
1325
00:38:42,267 --> 00:38:43,700
BUT 20,000 HANDS IS A LOT OF
1326
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:44,267
HANDS.
1327
00:38:44,267 --> 00:38:45,600
AND SO NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE
1328
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,633
CAN PROVE THINGS STATISTICALLY
1329
00:38:47,633 --> 00:38:49,633
THAT ANYBODY THAT UNDERSTANDS
1330
00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:51,467
BASIC MATH CAN UNDERSTAND.
1331
00:38:51,467 --> 00:38:52,600
>> THE INTERNET REALLY CREATED
1332
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,633
AN EXPONENTIAL INCREASE IN
1333
00:38:53,633 --> 00:38:54,667
SKILL.
1334
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:56,400
NOT ONLY WERE YOU ABLE TO GET SO
1335
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,667
MANY HANDS FASTER -- YOU KNOW,
1336
00:38:57,667 --> 00:38:59,167
YOU DON'T NEED A DEALER, YOU CAN
1337
00:38:59,167 --> 00:39:00,367
PLAY 10 TABLES AT A TIME, SO
1338
00:39:00,367 --> 00:39:01,667
MAYBE YOU'RE GETTING 20 TIMES AS
1339
00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:02,767
MANY HANDS -- BUT ALSO IT
1340
00:39:02,767 --> 00:39:04,667
CREATED A WEB, A SHARING NETWORK
1341
00:39:04,667 --> 00:39:06,233
WHERE PEOPLE WERE JUST ABLE TO
1342
00:39:06,233 --> 00:39:07,700
FEED IDEAS OFF OF EACH OTHER AND
1343
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:08,633
LEARN SO QUICKLY.
1344
00:39:08,633 --> 00:39:09,800
I THINK WHAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T
1345
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,267
REALIZED YET, THOUGH, IS POKER
1346
00:39:11,267 --> 00:39:13,000
IS STILL IN IT'S INFANCY.
1347
00:39:13,233 --> 00:39:14,633
AND I REALLY BELIEVE OVER THE
1348
00:39:14,633 --> 00:39:16,200
NEXT 10 YEARS, WE'LL FEEL THE
1349
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,600
SAME WAY ABOUT OURSELVES AS WE
1350
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,867
DO ABOUT THE LIVE PLAYERS
1351
00:39:18,867 --> 00:39:20,133
10 YEARS AGO.
1352
00:39:20,133 --> 00:39:21,133
THE PLAYERS 10 YEARS FROM NOW
1353
00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:22,100
ARE JUST GOING TO BE SO MUCH
1354
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:26,233
BETTER THAN US.
1355
00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:27,667
>> IN ANY GIVEN HAND OF POKER,
1356
00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:29,267
THERE'S JUST A HUGE AMOUNT OF
1357
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:30,667
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT FLUTTER
1358
00:39:30,667 --> 00:39:31,667
THROUGH YOUR MIND.
1359
00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:33,433
IT'S A GAME THAT NOT ONLY HAS
1360
00:39:33,433 --> 00:39:35,300
THIS KIND OF TECHNIQUE ELEMENT,
1361
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,133
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THE MATH AND
1362
00:39:37,133 --> 00:39:38,767
THE STRATEGY OF THE GAME, LIKE
1363
00:39:38,767 --> 00:39:40,300
ANY GAME, LIKE CHESS OR
1364
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:41,100
SOMETHING.
1365
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,267
THERE'S ALSO A MASSIVE HUMAN
1366
00:39:43,267 --> 00:39:44,633
ELEMENT WHICH IS EQUALLY
1367
00:39:44,633 --> 00:39:46,433
COMPLEX.
1368
00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:48,100
AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE,
1369
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:49,667
EVERY PLAYER PLAYS DIFFERENTLY,
1370
00:39:49,667 --> 00:39:51,100
AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO
1371
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,667
UNDERSTAND WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS
1372
00:39:52,667 --> 00:39:54,467
THINKING ABOUT.
1373
00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:56,433
IT'S REALLY LIKE A MIND-READING
1374
00:39:56,433 --> 00:39:58,433
TRICK, AND THE CARDS ARE KIND OF
1375
00:39:58,433 --> 00:40:00,433
LIKE CLUES AS TO WHAT THE PERSON
1376
00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:02,333
IS THINKING ABOUT DURING A HAND.
1377
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:03,767
AND THE BETTER YOU CAN KIND OF
1378
00:40:03,767 --> 00:40:05,467
READ THE CARDS, THE MORE YOU CAN
1379
00:40:05,467 --> 00:40:06,733
PULL OFF THE, LIKE, GYPSY
1380
00:40:06,733 --> 00:40:07,667
MIND-READING TRICK.
1381
00:40:07,667 --> 00:40:09,133
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY
1382
00:40:09,133 --> 00:40:10,700
COMES DOWN TO.
1383
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:12,100
>> SO I'M PLAYING $40/$80
1384
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,333
NO-LIMIT HOLD 'EM HEADS-UP.
1385
00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:14,467
>> I HAD $35,000 IN FRONT OF ME.
1386
00:40:14,467 --> 00:40:15,533
>> EFFECTIVE STACKS ARE ABOUT
1387
00:40:15,533 --> 00:40:16,267
450 BIG BLINDS.
1388
00:40:16,267 --> 00:40:17,400
>> I'M ON THE BUTTON WITH POCKET
1389
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,667
10s.
1390
00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:18,700
>> I RAISED 10s ON THE BUTTON
1391
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:19,233
TO $240.
1392
00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:20,133
>> HE POTS IT TO $720.
1393
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:21,200
>> HE WAS 3-BETTING SOMETHING
1394
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,600
AROUND 22%.
1395
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,633
>> DEFINITELY THE PLAY RIGHT
1396
00:40:22,633 --> 00:40:23,367
HERE IS TO CALL.
1397
00:40:23,367 --> 00:40:24,500
>> THE FLOP COMES OUT ACE-10-7,
1398
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:25,533
ALL CLUBS.
1399
00:40:25,767 --> 00:40:26,867
>> WHEN THAT 10 COMES ON THE
1400
00:40:26,867 --> 00:40:28,233
FLOP, IT'S JUST A MONSTER FLOP
1401
00:40:28,233 --> 00:40:28,600
FOR YOU.
1402
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,767
>> THERE'S ABOUT $1,400 IN THE
1403
00:40:29,767 --> 00:40:30,700
POT, AND HE BETS $800.
1404
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:31,800
>> IT'S ON THE SMALLER SIDE.
1405
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,233
>> ON THIS BOARD TEXTURE, IT'S A
1406
00:40:33,233 --> 00:40:34,167
LITTLE BIT SUSPICIOUS.
1407
00:40:34,167 --> 00:40:35,300
>> BECAUSE OF THAT, I DECIDE
1408
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:35,633
TO CALL.
1409
00:40:35,633 --> 00:40:36,833
>> THE TURN IS THE 8 OF SPADES.
1410
00:40:36,833 --> 00:40:38,100
>> NOW MY OPPONENT CHECKS.
1411
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,267
>> I TAKE THAT AS A SIGN OF HIM
1412
00:40:39,267 --> 00:40:39,700
GIVING UP.
1413
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:41,100
>> IT COULD MEAN HE'S GIVING UP.
1414
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:42,300
IT COULD MEAN HE'S TRAPPING US.
1415
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:43,533
>> THE POT'S ABOUT $3,000, AND I
1416
00:40:43,533 --> 00:40:44,333
BET ABOUT $2,600.
1417
00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:45,433
>> AND HE CHECK-RAISES ME TO
1418
00:40:45,433 --> 00:40:45,800
$10,800.
1419
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,100
>> HE COULD HAVE A WEAK ACE.
1420
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,267
HE COULD HAVE ANY PAIR BETWEEN
1421
00:40:48,267 --> 00:40:48,767
10s AND ACES.
1422
00:40:48,767 --> 00:40:49,867
>> QUEEN-JACK WITH ONE CLUB.
1423
00:40:49,867 --> 00:40:51,200
>> I HAVE 10 CARDS THAT COULD
1424
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,333
GIVE ME A FULL HOUSE, EVEN IF
1425
00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:52,767
I'M BEHIND.
1426
00:40:52,767 --> 00:40:54,133
>> 23% OF THE TIME WE'RE GOING
1427
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:55,267
TO IMPROVE TO A HAND THAT HE
1428
00:40:55,267 --> 00:40:55,800
BASICALLY BEAT.
1429
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,200
>> I CALL, AND THE RIVER COMES A
1430
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,500
KING.
1431
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:58,567
>> THE RIVER IS THE KING OF
1432
00:40:58,567 --> 00:40:59,100
SPADES.
1433
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,267
>> AND HE SHOVES FOR BASICALLY
1434
00:41:00,267 --> 00:41:00,533
POT.
1435
00:41:00,533 --> 00:41:01,167
>> HE JAMS.
1436
00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:02,267
>> IT'S AN ABSURDLY BIG BET.
1437
00:41:02,267 --> 00:41:03,333
>> HE KNOWS THAT HE'S ONLY
1438
00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:04,500
REPRESENTING VERY STRONG HANDS.
1439
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:05,667
>> KING-HIGH FLUSH, QUEEN-HIGH
1440
00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:06,500
FLUSH, OR A BLUFF.
1441
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:07,667
>> THE MATH SAYS TO CALL HERE.
1442
00:41:07,667 --> 00:41:08,733
>> IF I'M NOT CALLING 30%,
1443
00:41:08,733 --> 00:41:09,233
40%...
1444
00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:12,000
[ INDISTINCT TALKING ]
1445
00:41:12,233 --> 00:41:13,200
>> SO I PROBABLY MAKE THE CALL
1446
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,367
WITH POCKET 10s.
1447
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,267
>> TODAY WE'RE AT THE COMMERCE,
1448
00:41:32,267 --> 00:41:34,233
WORKING ON "RAW DEAL" SEGMENTS.
1449
00:41:34,233 --> 00:41:36,400
USUALLY MY PRODUCERS JUST E-MAIL
1450
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,433
ME SOME FILES, TAKE A LOOK AT
1451
00:41:38,433 --> 00:41:40,433
THOSE, AND THEN WRITE MY OWN
1452
00:41:40,433 --> 00:41:41,367
SEGMENTS.
1453
00:41:41,367 --> 00:41:42,167
>> HEY, EVERYONE.
1454
00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:43,433
I'M HERE WITH TONY DUNST, THE
1455
00:41:43,433 --> 00:41:44,633
NEW HOST OF "THE RAW DEAL."
1456
00:41:44,633 --> 00:41:45,733
PLEASE TELL US WHAT THAT
1457
00:41:45,733 --> 00:41:46,333
ENTAILS.
1458
00:41:46,333 --> 00:41:47,767
>> WELL, JULIO, WHAT'S GOING TO
1459
00:41:47,767 --> 00:41:49,300
HAPPEN IS I'M GOING TO POP UP
1460
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:50,633
ONCE OR TWICE AN EPISODE AND
1461
00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:52,133
REALLY JUST GET A MOMENT TO
1462
00:41:52,133 --> 00:41:53,533
SPEAK ON WHATEVER I'D LIKE TO,
1463
00:41:53,533 --> 00:41:55,167
PROBABLY ABOUT THE STRATEGY OF A
1464
00:41:55,167 --> 00:41:56,567
HAND THAT WE JUST WITNESSED OR
1465
00:41:56,567 --> 00:41:57,767
PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING
1466
00:41:57,767 --> 00:41:59,100
ON IN THE EPISODE AS FAR AS
1467
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,333
PLAYERS' CONDUCT, BEHAVIOR, AND
1468
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:01,467
WHAT'S GOING ON IN POKER IN
1469
00:42:01,467 --> 00:42:01,833
GENERAL.
1470
00:42:01,833 --> 00:42:03,100
>> NOW, YOU HAVE A BLOG ON
1471
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:03,567
CARD PLAYER.
1472
00:42:03,567 --> 00:42:04,800
YOU'RE KNOWN FOR TELLING IT LIKE
1473
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,300
IT IS.
1474
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:06,500
ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE SAME ON
1475
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:06,867
THE SHOW?
1476
00:42:06,867 --> 00:42:08,300
>> I CERTAINLY HOPE SO, AND I'VE
1477
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:09,500
BEEN ENCOURAGED TO DO PRECISELY
1478
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:14,467
THAT.
1479
00:42:14,467 --> 00:42:16,667
THIS SEGMENT WILL BE ONE OF THE
1480
00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:18,833
FIRST TIMES IN TELEVISED POKER
1481
00:42:18,833 --> 00:42:21,267
THAT THE PUBLIC GETS TO SEE THE
1482
00:42:21,267 --> 00:42:23,467
PERSPECTIVE OF THE YOUNG ONLINE
1483
00:42:23,467 --> 00:42:26,200
GENERATION.
1484
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,200
I FEEL A LITTLE PRESSURE BECAUSE
1485
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,133
I WANT MY GENERATION OF PLAYERS
1486
00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:32,133
TO RESPECT WHAT I PUT OUT THERE,
1487
00:42:32,133 --> 00:42:33,767
AND I WANT TO MAKE US LOOK GOOD,
1488
00:42:33,767 --> 00:42:35,600
MAKE US LOOK LIKE WE'RE THE ONES
1489
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,433
THAT REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON
1490
00:42:37,433 --> 00:42:38,267
WITH POKER.
1491
00:42:38,267 --> 00:42:40,300
SO I WANT TO BE AN APPROPRIATE
1492
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:41,267
AMBASSADOR.
1493
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:42,867
I WANT TO MAKE MY FRIENDS AND
1494
00:42:42,867 --> 00:42:44,800
THE GUYS WHO GREW UP TEACHING ME
1495
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,767
POKER LOOK SMART.
1496
00:43:01,433 --> 00:43:02,800
>> RIGHT NOW I'M JUST GETTING A
1497
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,333
LOT OF REALLY GOOD CARDS.
1498
00:43:04,567 --> 00:43:06,267
MY TABLE THINKS THAT I'M REALLY
1499
00:43:06,267 --> 00:43:07,233
CRAZY AGGRESSIVE.
1500
00:43:07,233 --> 00:43:08,400
ACTUALLY I'VE JUST HAD
1501
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,133
LEGITIMATELY GOOD HANDS, SO IF I
1502
00:43:10,133 --> 00:43:11,633
CAN JUST KEEP PICKING UP POCKET
1503
00:43:11,633 --> 00:43:14,567
KINGS, THAT'D BE NICE.
1504
00:43:14,567 --> 00:43:16,167
I THINK I'M RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT
1505
00:43:16,167 --> 00:43:22,667
110-115K.
1506
00:43:22,667 --> 00:43:25,133
>> DANIELLE ANDERSON HERE ON DAY
1507
00:43:25,133 --> 00:43:26,500
THREE OF THE LAPC.
1508
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,400
WE'RE AT 126 PLAYERS NOW.
1509
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,333
YOU'RE ONE OF THEM BUT
1510
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:32,700
EXTREMELY, WELL, SHORT-STACKED
1511
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:33,333
RIGHT NOW.
1512
00:43:33,333 --> 00:43:34,233
>> I WAS EXTREMELY
1513
00:43:34,233 --> 00:43:34,800
SHORT-STACKED.
1514
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,667
I JUST DOUBLED UP.
1515
00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:36,267
SO YEAH.
1516
00:43:36,267 --> 00:43:37,500
>> AND YOU SAID YOU GOT LUCKY.
1517
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:38,400
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
1518
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,667
>> WELL, I WAS REAL SHORT, AND
1519
00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:40,867
IT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE FIRST
1520
00:43:40,867 --> 00:43:42,333
SEMI-DECENT HAND I'VE HAD THAT
1521
00:43:42,333 --> 00:43:43,600
SOMEBODY HADN'T OPENED THE POT.
1522
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,867
SO I HAD JACK-10, AND I SHOVED
1523
00:43:44,867 --> 00:43:46,400
AND GOT SNAP CALLED BY SOMEBODY.
1524
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,700
I THOUGHT FOR SURE HE HAD A BIG
1525
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:48,200
HAND.
1526
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,867
HE HAD POCKET 8s.
1527
00:43:48,867 --> 00:43:49,767
SO WE WERE RACING.
1528
00:43:49,767 --> 00:43:51,200
I WAS PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT.
1529
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,400
AND I HIT A 10 ON THE RIVER.
1530
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,700
SO NICE LITTLE DOUBLE UP FOR ME.
1531
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:54,800
GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF
1532
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,600
BREATHING ROOM.
1533
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,267
I'M AT ABOUT 89K OR SOMETHING
1534
00:43:57,267 --> 00:43:57,833
LIKE THAT.
1535
00:43:57,833 --> 00:43:58,767
>> OKAY, GOOD.
1536
00:43:58,767 --> 00:44:00,167
>> LITTLE BIT OF ROOM.
1537
00:44:00,167 --> 00:44:01,633
>> THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, IT
1538
00:44:01,633 --> 00:44:02,600
WAS AT BORGATA.
1539
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,200
OR THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME.
1540
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,433
IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO.
1541
00:44:05,433 --> 00:44:06,800
BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND YOU
1542
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,367
REALLY FELT LIKE A NEWBIE.
1543
00:44:08,367 --> 00:44:09,533
WELL, YOU WERE.
1544
00:44:09,533 --> 00:44:11,533
AND NOW IT'S JUST -- IT'S SO
1545
00:44:11,533 --> 00:44:12,467
DIFFERENT.
1546
00:44:12,467 --> 00:44:14,567
I MEAN, YOU KNOW EVERYONE, AND
1547
00:44:14,567 --> 00:44:16,667
IT'S JUST -- HOW DOES IT FEEL?
1548
00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:17,367
>> IT'S FUN.
1549
00:44:17,367 --> 00:44:18,567
I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
1550
00:44:18,567 --> 00:44:19,600
NICE TRANSITION INTO THE
1551
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,433
TOURNAMENT WORLD.
1552
00:44:20,433 --> 00:44:21,633
IT'S NICE TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE
1553
00:44:21,633 --> 00:44:22,600
AND SEE FAMILIAR FACES.
1554
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,633
AND I'VE KIND OF MADE SOME
1555
00:44:23,633 --> 00:44:24,167
FRIENDS.
1556
00:44:24,167 --> 00:44:25,200
SO EVEN WHEN I'M TRAVELING
1557
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,367
ALONE, I HAVE PEOPLE TO TALK TO
1558
00:44:26,367 --> 00:44:27,500
AND HANG OUT WITH.
1559
00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:29,233
WELL, CONTINUE THE GOOD LUCK,
1560
00:44:29,233 --> 00:44:30,833
AND YOU'RE OKAY NOW.
1561
00:44:30,833 --> 00:44:32,233
>> YEAH, I'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE
1562
00:44:32,233 --> 00:44:33,367
BREATHING ROOM THAN I HAD, SO
1563
00:44:33,367 --> 00:44:34,400
I'M FEELING PRETTY GOOD.
1564
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,433
CHIP AND A CHAIR, RIGHT?
1565
00:44:35,433 --> 00:44:37,333
>> EXACTLY, OR $89,000 AND A
1566
00:44:37,333 --> 00:44:37,833
CHAIR.
1567
00:44:37,833 --> 00:44:38,800
>> WHATEVER.
1568
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,467
>> THANK YOU.
1569
00:44:39,467 --> 00:44:40,200
>> THANKS MUCH.
1570
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,867
IT'S GOOD SEEING YOU.
1571
00:44:40,867 --> 00:44:42,267
>> YOU TOO.
1572
00:44:49,833 --> 00:44:51,500
>> COMING BACK FROM THIS WORLD
1573
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:52,533
WHERE YOU HAVE NO
1574
00:44:52,533 --> 00:44:53,633
RESPONSIBILITIES, NO
1575
00:44:53,633 --> 00:44:55,267
OBLIGATIONS, NO TIMETABLES OR
1576
00:44:55,267 --> 00:44:56,833
DEADLINES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
1577
00:44:56,833 --> 00:44:58,600
AND THEN TRYING TO PLUG YOU BACK
1578
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,233
IN WHERE YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE
1579
00:45:00,233 --> 00:45:01,600
PEOPLE RELYING ON YOU BEING
1580
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,200
PROMPT AND PUNCTUAL, THE
1581
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,700
DIFFICULT PART HAS BEEN THE
1582
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:07,200
RESPONSIBILITY.
1583
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,500
I FUCKED UP AN INTERVIEW
1584
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:10,133
YESTERDAY WHERE I MISSED IT.
1585
00:45:10,133 --> 00:45:11,333
MY FLIGHT WAS DELAYED.
1586
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,667
I FORGOT TO MESSAGE MY
1587
00:45:12,667 --> 00:45:14,467
CORRESPONDENT AT THE WPT AND
1588
00:45:14,467 --> 00:45:15,567
INFORM HIM OF THIS.
1589
00:45:15,567 --> 00:45:16,633
THEN THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DOING
1590
00:45:16,633 --> 00:45:17,733
THE INTERVIEW TRIED TO CALL ME
1591
00:45:17,733 --> 00:45:18,800
WHILE I WAS JUST ABOUT TO TAKE
1592
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,100
OFF, AND IT WAS A DISASTER, AND
1593
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,100
I FELT LIKE A TOTAL ASSHOLE.
1594
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,567
YOU KNOW, IT TURNED OUT I HAD
1595
00:45:23,567 --> 00:45:25,300
GONE SIX DAYS WITHOUT E-MAILING
1596
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:26,733
MY CORRESPONDENT AT THE WPT.
1597
00:45:26,733 --> 00:45:27,633
I HAD NO IDEA.
1598
00:45:27,633 --> 00:45:29,300
I FEEL LIKE A DICK ABOUT IT, BUT
1599
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:30,767
I JUST HAD NO IDEA THAT SIX DAYS
1600
00:45:30,767 --> 00:45:31,500
HAD PASSED.
1601
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:33,867
THEY JUST SEEMED TO CLICK AWAY.
1602
00:45:33,867 --> 00:45:34,867
I DON'T WANT TO BE A BAD
1603
00:45:34,867 --> 00:45:36,267
EMPLOYEE, AND I DON'T HAVE THIS
1604
00:45:36,267 --> 00:45:37,467
ATTITUDE LIKE, "I DON'T HAVE TO
1605
00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:38,167
DO THIS SHIT.
1606
00:45:38,167 --> 00:45:39,167
I DON'T WANT TO DO THESE
1607
00:45:39,167 --> 00:45:39,533
THINGS."
1608
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:41,500
I WANT TO DO THEM, BUT I AM
1609
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:43,533
DEFINITELY CONCERNED THAT SIX
1610
00:45:43,533 --> 00:45:44,833
YEARS OF HABIT ARE GOING TO BE
1611
00:45:44,833 --> 00:45:46,267
VERY HARD TO BREAK, AND I'M
1612
00:45:46,267 --> 00:45:47,600
GOING TO CONTINUE MAKING THOSE
1613
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,100
KIND OF MISTAKES EVEN THOUGH I
1614
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:55,233
DO NOT INTEND TO.
1615
00:45:55,233 --> 00:45:58,300
I AM NOT...
1616
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:00,400
I AM NOT SURE TO WHAT DEGREE OF
1617
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:08,400
TROUBLE I AM IN CURRENTLY.
1618
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,833
MY POSITION IS TENUOUS AND
1619
00:46:09,833 --> 00:46:11,600
TEMPORARY, AND IF THEY DECIDE
1620
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,200
THAT I'M NOT WHAT THEY'RE
1621
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,700
LOOKING FOR OR THE SEGMENTS
1622
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:16,433
DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WELL OR
1623
00:46:16,433 --> 00:46:18,267
I'M A HASSLE TO DEAL WITH, THEY
1624
00:46:18,267 --> 00:46:20,100
CAN JUST CUT ME.
1625
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:50,433
[ INDISTINCT TALKING ]
1626
00:46:50,433 --> 00:46:51,400
>> CALL.
1627
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,467
>> CALL.
1628
00:46:54,467 --> 00:47:02,533
FUCK MY LIFE.
1629
00:47:02,533 --> 00:47:04,733
I'M SO PISSED RIGHT NOW.
1630
00:47:04,733 --> 00:47:05,800
I KNEW THAT GUY WAS BLUFFING,
1631
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,867
AND I WAS LETTING HIM BLUFF.
1632
00:47:06,867 --> 00:47:07,800
I HAD POCKET JACKS ON AN
1633
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,733
ACE-HIGH BOARD.
1634
00:47:09,733 --> 00:47:10,733
I KNEW HE WAS -- [ SIGHS ]
1635
00:47:10,733 --> 00:47:11,800
I DON'T -- GOD, I ALMOST -- I
1636
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,100
WAS JUST GOING TO LET HIM KEEP
1637
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,233
BLUFFING AT ME 'CAUSE I KNEW HE
1638
00:47:14,233 --> 00:47:15,400
WAS JUST GOING TO KEEP FIRING AT
1639
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,700
ME.
1640
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:22,300
FUCK MY LIFE.
1641
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:24,467
[ INDISTINCT TALKING ]
1642
00:47:34,633 --> 00:47:43,733
>> GIVE ME $1,000.
1643
00:47:43,733 --> 00:47:44,833
>> GOT TO DO BETTER THAN THE
1644
00:47:44,833 --> 00:47:47,733
LAST ONE.
1645
00:47:47,733 --> 00:47:50,800
>> FLOP.
1646
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,733
UGH.
1647
00:47:57,733 --> 00:48:00,867
THAT'S A ROUGH FLOP.
1648
00:48:00,867 --> 00:48:01,867
GOOD GAME, GUYS.
1649
00:48:01,867 --> 00:48:02,767
>> GOOD LUCK.
1650
00:48:02,767 --> 00:48:03,667
>> THANK YOU.
1651
00:48:03,667 --> 00:48:07,233
NICE PLAYING WITH YOU GUYS.
1652
00:48:07,233 --> 00:48:08,400
JAY...
1653
00:48:08,633 --> 00:48:09,533
NO, IT'S ALL GOOD.
1654
00:48:09,533 --> 00:48:10,367
WHAT CAN YOU DO?
1655
00:48:10,367 --> 00:48:11,600
I THINK I SHOULD HAVE CALLED.
1656
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,300
WHAT'S THAT?
1657
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:13,533
>> YOU CAN KEEP IT IF YOU NEED
1658
00:48:13,533 --> 00:48:13,800
IT.
1659
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,767
>> I'LL BE ALL RIGHT.
1660
00:48:14,767 --> 00:48:16,200
I GOT STUFF IN MY HOTEL ROOM.
1661
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,267
YEAH.
1662
00:48:18,267 --> 00:48:19,400
IF I HAD KNOWN THAT, I WOULD
1663
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,767
HAVE CALLED THE LAST HAND.
1664
00:48:22,767 --> 00:48:24,100
>> I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER.
1665
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:29,533
>> YEP. SEE YOU LATER, BOSS.
1666
00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:31,767
I'M OUT.
1667
00:48:31,767 --> 00:48:33,367
BOUGHT IN FOR $10,000, PLAYED
1668
00:48:33,367 --> 00:48:35,367
FOR THREE DAYS, AND I GO HOME
1669
00:48:35,367 --> 00:48:36,400
EMPTY-HANDED.
1670
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,333
IT'S DEJECTING.
1671
00:48:37,333 --> 00:48:38,200
IT'S NOT FUN.
1672
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,700
OF COURSE YOU WANT TO MAKE IT.
1673
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:41,367
BUT, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF KNOW
1674
00:48:41,367 --> 00:48:43,100
SOME OF THE WPT STAFF, AND I'VE
1675
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:44,467
GOTTEN TO KNOW SOME OF THE
1676
00:48:44,467 --> 00:48:45,433
REGULAR PLAYERS.
1677
00:48:45,433 --> 00:48:46,833
AND SO, YEAH, I THINK EVERY
1678
00:48:46,833 --> 00:48:48,600
TOURNAMENT THAT I'M AT HELPS GET
1679
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,233
ME CLOSER TO THAT, YOU KNOW,
1680
00:48:50,233 --> 00:48:52,067
GOAL OF THE SPONSORSHIP.
1681
00:49:08,767 --> 00:49:10,467
>> MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN
1682
00:49:10,467 --> 00:49:12,500
WASHINGTON, D.C., DON'T HAVE ANY
1683
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,700
INTEREST IN GAMBLING WHATSOEVER.
1684
00:49:16,133 --> 00:49:19,333
GAMBLING IS A STATE ISSUE, NOT A
1685
00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:20,500
FEDERAL ISSUE.
1686
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:22,500
THAT'S WHY YOU CAN HAVE UTAH AND
1687
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,233
NEVADA SHARE A BORDER AND
1688
00:49:24,233 --> 00:49:25,833
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LAWS ON
1689
00:49:25,867 --> 00:49:27,300
GAMBLING.
1690
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:29,667
BUT THE OPERATORS ARE IN OTHER
1691
00:49:29,667 --> 00:49:32,100
COUNTRIES, SO IT WAS UNCLEAR
1692
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:34,200
WHETHER INTERNET POKER WAS
1693
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,400
REALLY LEGAL OR ILLEGAL.
1694
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,100
AND EVEN IF IT WAS ILLEGAL, WHO
1695
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,700
COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
1696
00:49:40,133 --> 00:49:42,267
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HATED
1697
00:49:42,267 --> 00:49:44,500
INTERNET POKER, BUT THEY DID NOT
1698
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,600
HAVE THE WEAPONS THEY NEED TO
1699
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,267
CLOSE IT DOWN.
1700
00:49:48,267 --> 00:49:49,867
YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A DEFENDANT
1701
00:49:49,867 --> 00:49:51,767
WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE
1702
00:49:51,767 --> 00:49:53,533
UNITED STATES, AND YOU NEED A
1703
00:49:53,533 --> 00:49:55,200
GOOD STATUTE THAT MAKES AN
1704
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,500
ACTIVITY ILLEGAL.
1705
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,567
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE STATUTE,
1706
00:49:58,567 --> 00:50:00,633
THE BEST THEY COULD USE WAS THE
1707
00:50:00,633 --> 00:50:02,733
WIRE ACT, WHICH IS A STATUTE
1708
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:04,867
PASSED IN 1961 DESIGNED TO GO
1709
00:50:04,867 --> 00:50:07,300
AFTER TELEGRAPH WIRES FOR HORSE
1710
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:08,467
RACES.
1711
00:50:08,467 --> 00:50:10,367
IT'S KIND OF LIKE USING STONE
1712
00:50:10,367 --> 00:50:12,367
TOOLS TO DO BRAIN SURGERY -- IT
1713
00:50:12,367 --> 00:50:14,233
MIGHT WORK BUT IT'S EXTREMELY
1714
00:50:14,233 --> 00:50:15,433
MESSY.
1715
00:50:15,433 --> 00:50:18,233
SO THEY WANT A BILL PASSED THAT
1716
00:50:18,233 --> 00:50:20,567
WILL CLEARLY STATE THAT THE
1717
00:50:20,567 --> 00:50:22,667
WIRE ACT COVERS INTERNET POKER.
1718
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:25,267
AND YEAR AFTER YEAR, REPUBLICANS
1719
00:50:25,267 --> 00:50:27,367
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
1720
00:50:27,367 --> 00:50:29,833
KEEP INTRODUCING BILLS TO TRY TO
1721
00:50:29,833 --> 00:50:32,500
MAKE INTERNET GAMBLING EXPRESSLY
1722
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:33,267
ILLEGAL.
1723
00:50:33,267 --> 00:50:34,833
>> THIS IS A SCOURGE ON OUR
1724
00:50:34,833 --> 00:50:35,600
SOCIETY.
1725
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,667
>> AND THEY WOULD PASS ONE HOUSE
1726
00:50:37,667 --> 00:50:39,367
AND NOT ANOTHER, OR THEY'D PASS
1727
00:50:39,367 --> 00:50:41,867
OUT OF COMMITTEES BUT NOT PASS
1728
00:50:41,867 --> 00:50:45,567
THE HOUSE.
1729
00:50:45,567 --> 00:50:47,467
WHAT WE HAD IN 2006 WAS THE
1730
00:50:47,467 --> 00:50:49,600
MAJORITY LEADER OF THE US SENATE
1731
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,633
IS BILL FRIST, REPUBLICAN FROM
1732
00:50:51,633 --> 00:50:53,133
TENNESSEE.
1733
00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,100
HE'S THE ONE WHO PUSHED THROUGH
1734
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:56,767
THE ONLY BILL THAT EVER PASSED,
1735
00:50:56,767 --> 00:50:58,567
THE UNLAWFUL INTERNET GAMBLING
1736
00:50:58,567 --> 00:51:00,400
ENFORCEMENT ACT.
1737
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,333
AND HOW THIS HAPPENED IS REALLY
1738
00:51:02,333 --> 00:51:04,233
AN INCREDIBLE STORY, AND REALLY
1739
00:51:04,233 --> 00:51:05,667
AN AFFRONT TO DEMOCRACY.
1740
00:51:05,667 --> 00:51:06,800
>> HOW Y'ALL DOIN?
1741
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,200
I CAME TO SAY HELLO.
1742
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,200
GOOD TO SEE YA.
1743
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,867
YES, INDEED.
1744
00:51:09,867 --> 00:51:11,233
>> THE SPECULATION IS THAT
1745
00:51:11,233 --> 00:51:12,567
BILL FRIST WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE
1746
00:51:12,567 --> 00:51:13,800
A PRESIDENTIAL RUN, AND THAT
1747
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,200
THIS WAS A WAY OF TRYING TO
1748
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,833
SHORE UP HIS EVANGELICAL BASE.
1749
00:51:18,833 --> 00:51:20,333
>> ARE WE GOING TO LEAD, OR ARE
1750
00:51:20,333 --> 00:51:21,267
WE GOING TO FOLLOW?
1751
00:51:21,267 --> 00:51:22,533
AND THE REPUBLICANS, AS WE ALL
1752
00:51:22,533 --> 00:51:23,867
KNOW, HAVE A CLEAR-CUT VISION OF
1753
00:51:23,867 --> 00:51:25,333
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS
1754
00:51:25,333 --> 00:51:25,733
COUNTRY.
1755
00:51:25,733 --> 00:51:27,100
>> AND HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT
1756
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:28,333
INTERNET GAMBLING EITHER, BUT
1757
00:51:28,333 --> 00:51:30,567
JIM LEACH, WHO'S A VERY POWERFUL
1758
00:51:30,567 --> 00:51:32,767
REPUBLICAN FROM IOWA, DOES CARE.
1759
00:51:32,767 --> 00:51:34,733
HE WANTS TO OUTLAW INTERNET
1760
00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:35,633
GAMBLING.
1761
00:51:35,633 --> 00:51:37,633
>> INTERNET GAMBLING IS CRACK
1762
00:51:37,633 --> 00:51:39,233
COCAINE FOR GAMBLERS.
1763
00:51:39,233 --> 00:51:40,733
YOU JUST CLICK THE MOUSE AND
1764
00:51:40,767 --> 00:51:42,100
LOSE YOUR HOUSE.
1765
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,867
>> IOWA, OF COURSE, IS THE STATE
1766
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:45,600
WITH THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL
1767
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,433
PRIMARIES.
1768
00:51:46,433 --> 00:51:48,300
SO BILL FRIST FIGURES, WELL, A
1769
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:50,167
GOOD WAY TO WIN OVER JIM LEACH
1770
00:51:50,167 --> 00:51:51,700
AND ESTABLISH HIS BONA-FIDE
1771
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:53,500
CREDENTIALS WITH THE EXTREME
1772
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:55,467
RIGHT WING IS TO OUTLAW INTERNET
1773
00:51:55,467 --> 00:51:56,233
GAMBLING.
1774
00:51:56,233 --> 00:51:58,100
>> AS IT IS NOW, THIS INDUSTRY
1775
00:51:58,100 --> 00:51:59,600
THREATENS TO UNDERMINE THE
1776
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,500
QUALITY OF LIFE OF MILLIONS OF
1777
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:03,100
AMERICANS BY BRINGING AN
1778
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:04,733
ADDICTIVE BEHAVIOR RIGHT INTO
1779
00:52:04,733 --> 00:52:06,800
OUR LIVING ROOMS.
1780
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,200
>> BUT THEY COULDN'T GET ENOUGH
1781
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,233
VOTES FOR CONGRESS TO PASS A
1782
00:52:11,233 --> 00:52:12,600
BILL THAT WOULD PASS BOTH
1783
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,267
HOUSES.
1784
00:52:13,267 --> 00:52:16,233
NOBODY CARED ABOUT THE ISSUE.
1785
00:52:16,233 --> 00:52:19,567
BILL FRIST SAW AN OPPORTUNITY BY
1786
00:52:19,567 --> 00:52:21,633
ATTACHING IT TO A MUST-PASS
1787
00:52:21,633 --> 00:52:23,567
PIECE OF LEGISLATION,
1788
00:52:23,567 --> 00:52:24,867
THE SAFE PORT ACT.
1789
00:52:24,867 --> 00:52:26,667
>> NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND
1790
00:52:26,667 --> 00:52:28,467
WAS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE
1791
00:52:28,467 --> 00:52:30,400
PORTS ACT, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY
1792
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,100
A NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY.
1793
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:33,467
>> THE SAFE PORT ACT HAD PASSED
1794
00:52:33,467 --> 00:52:34,400
BOTH THE HOUSE OF
1795
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,267
REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE.
1796
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:38,567
THEY GO TO CONFERENCE COMMITTEE
1797
00:52:38,567 --> 00:52:40,600
AT LIKE 1:00 IN THE MORNING ON
1798
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,467
SATURDAY.
1799
00:52:41,467 --> 00:52:43,600
>> IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT AT
1800
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,800
THE BEHEST OF SENATOR FRIST, THE
1801
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,133
LANGUAGE FOR THE UIGEA WAS THEN
1802
00:52:48,133 --> 00:52:49,767
INSERTED INTO THE CONFERENCE
1803
00:52:49,767 --> 00:52:50,567
REPORT.
1804
00:52:50,567 --> 00:52:52,800
>> NO HEARINGS, NO DISCUSSION,
1805
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,633
NO CHANCE TO EVEN READ THE BILL.
1806
00:52:54,633 --> 00:52:56,300
>> IT WAS ESSENTIALLY THRUST
1807
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:57,867
DOWN AND, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT,
1808
00:52:57,867 --> 00:52:59,567
HIDDEN BY THOSE WHO PASS THE
1809
00:52:59,567 --> 00:53:00,100
LAW.
1810
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,533
>> THE SAFE PORT ACT WILL MAKE
1811
00:53:01,533 --> 00:53:03,233
THIS NATION MORE PREPARED, MORE
1812
00:53:03,233 --> 00:53:04,600
PROSPEROUS, AND MORE SECURE.
1813
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,200
>> THERE'S COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS
1814
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,433
OF THE SENATE AND HOUSE OF
1815
00:53:07,433 --> 00:53:08,867
REPRESENTATIVES SAYING, "THIS IS
1816
00:53:08,867 --> 00:53:10,467
NOT THE WAY LAWS ARE SUPPOSED TO
1817
00:53:10,467 --> 00:53:11,500
BE MADE.
1818
00:53:11,733 --> 00:53:13,533
>> WHAT DOES BANNING INTERNET
1819
00:53:13,533 --> 00:53:15,267
GAMING HAVE TO DO WITH PORT
1820
00:53:15,267 --> 00:53:15,867
SECURITY?
1821
00:53:15,867 --> 00:53:17,433
>> WHAT KIND OF SOCIAL,
1822
00:53:17,433 --> 00:53:19,267
CULTURAL AUTHORITARIANISM ARE
1823
00:53:19,267 --> 00:53:20,467
WE ADVOCATING HERE?
1824
00:53:20,467 --> 00:53:22,567
>> THIS SECTION WAS ADDED TO THE
1825
00:53:22,567 --> 00:53:24,700
BILL IN AN ATTEMPT TO FIRE UP
1826
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,600
THE FAR RIGHT ANTI-GAMING
1827
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,467
ELEMENT IN TIME FOR THIS YEAR'S
1828
00:53:28,467 --> 00:53:29,267
ELECTION.
1829
00:53:29,267 --> 00:53:30,800
>> THE REPUBLICANS SIMPLY RAMMED
1830
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,433
IT THROUGH, AND THEY SAID, "IF
1831
00:53:32,433 --> 00:53:33,833
YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN VOTE
1832
00:53:33,833 --> 00:53:35,467
AGAINST THE SAFE PORT ACT, AND
1833
00:53:35,467 --> 00:53:36,867
WE WILL CAMPAIGN AGAINST YOU
1834
00:53:36,867 --> 00:53:38,300
THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF
1835
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:40,400
TERRORISM."
1836
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,333
>> IT'S THAT KIND OF PROCESS
1837
00:53:42,333 --> 00:53:44,433
THAT WAS ENGAGED IN THAT REALLY
1838
00:53:44,433 --> 00:53:46,667
UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE.
1839
00:53:46,667 --> 00:53:48,833
>> THE SENATE CHANGES, THE
1840
00:53:48,833 --> 00:53:51,367
PEOPLE WHO SERVE IN THIS BODY
1841
00:53:51,367 --> 00:53:53,833
CHANGE, BUT WHAT DOESN'T CHANGE
1842
00:53:53,833 --> 00:53:55,733
IS THAT EVERY ONE OF US WHO
1843
00:53:55,733 --> 00:53:57,767
SERVES BELIEVES DEEPLY IN THE
1844
00:53:57,767 --> 00:53:59,433
GENIUS OF THE AMERICAN
1845
00:53:59,433 --> 00:54:01,433
DEMOCRACY.
1846
00:54:01,433 --> 00:54:02,800
MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE
1847
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,400
FLOOR.
1848
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,233
[ APPLAUSE ]
1849
00:54:19,167 --> 00:54:21,433
>> THE UIGEA DOES ONLY TWO
1850
00:54:21,433 --> 00:54:23,800
THINGS -- MADE IT A CRIME TO
1851
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,567
ACCEPT MONEY FOR ILLEGAL
1852
00:54:25,567 --> 00:54:27,367
GAMBLING, AND THEN IT WAS
1853
00:54:27,367 --> 00:54:29,400
SUPPOSED TO CREATE REGULATIONS
1854
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,267
THAT WOULD PREVENT PAYMENT
1855
00:54:31,267 --> 00:54:32,733
PROCESSORS -- BANKS AND
1856
00:54:32,733 --> 00:54:34,633
OTHERS -- FROM SENDING MONEY
1857
00:54:34,633 --> 00:54:36,467
FROM THE U.S. TO OPERATORS.
1858
00:54:36,467 --> 00:54:39,133
>> THE PROCESSING FROM PLAYERS
1859
00:54:39,133 --> 00:54:40,633
TO OPERATORS AND THEN OPERATORS
1860
00:54:40,633 --> 00:54:42,233
BACK TO PLAYERS TO PAY THEIR
1861
00:54:42,233 --> 00:54:43,633
WINNINGS IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF
1862
00:54:43,633 --> 00:54:44,467
THE BUSINESS.
1863
00:54:44,467 --> 00:54:47,133
UIGEA WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SEVER
1864
00:54:47,133 --> 00:54:47,733
THAT.
1865
00:54:47,733 --> 00:54:50,100
>> IT BECAME HARDER AND HARDER
1866
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,100
FOR AMERICANS TO SIMPLY GET
1867
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,233
THEIR MONEY TO A SITE, SO THE
1868
00:54:54,233 --> 00:54:55,833
PAYMENT PROCESSORS, THE
1869
00:54:55,833 --> 00:54:58,233
MIDDLEMEN, THE E-WALLETS FILLED
1870
00:54:58,233 --> 00:54:59,233
THAT VOID.
1871
00:54:59,233 --> 00:55:02,100
>> THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY, IN
1872
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,733
RESPONSE TO THE UIGEA, BECAME
1873
00:55:04,733 --> 00:55:07,667
MUCH RISKIER AND, AS A RESULT,
1874
00:55:07,667 --> 00:55:10,467
MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND MUCH
1875
00:55:10,467 --> 00:55:13,300
MORE CREATIVE IN TERMS OF HOW
1876
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:16,300
THEY WOULD PROCESS TRANSACTIONS
1877
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:18,167
FOR THE INTERNET POKER
1878
00:55:18,167 --> 00:55:19,133
OPERATORS.
1879
00:55:19,367 --> 00:55:21,333
>> WHEN THE UIGEA HIT, EVERY
1880
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:23,400
ONLINE POKER SITE SERVING U.S.
1881
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,500
CUSTOMERS HAD A BIG DECISION TO
1882
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:26,667
MAKE.
1883
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:28,333
WERE THEY GOING TO LEAVE THE
1884
00:55:28,333 --> 00:55:29,600
MARKET, OR WERE THEY GOING TO
1885
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,400
PUSH THEIR LUCK AND STAY IN THE
1886
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,567
MARKET?
1887
00:55:33,567 --> 00:55:35,667
PartyPoker, WHO WAS THE BIGGEST
1888
00:55:35,667 --> 00:55:37,700
SITE IN THE WORLD AT THE TIME,
1889
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:39,833
CHOSE TO LEAVE THE MARKET, WHILE
1890
00:55:39,833 --> 00:55:41,467
PokerStars AND FULL TILT CHOSE
1891
00:55:41,467 --> 00:55:42,800
TO STAY.
1892
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,567
>> KEEP IN MIND PartyPoker WAS
1893
00:55:44,567 --> 00:55:45,767
THE INDUSTRY LEADER.
1894
00:55:45,767 --> 00:55:47,633
THE WORLD'S LARGEST ONLINE POKER
1895
00:55:47,633 --> 00:55:49,400
SITE ESSENTIALLY SAYS, "WE ARE
1896
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,800
LEAVING THE UNITED STATES
1897
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,500
MARKET."
1898
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:53,133
THAT'S A REMARKABLE THING.
1899
00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:54,567
>> PartyPoker WAS A PUBLICLY
1900
00:55:54,567 --> 00:55:55,533
TRADED COMPANY.
1901
00:55:55,533 --> 00:55:56,767
THEY HAVE TO ANSWER TO
1902
00:55:56,767 --> 00:55:57,633
SHAREHOLDERS.
1903
00:55:57,633 --> 00:55:59,367
THEY HAVE COMMERCE REGULATIONS
1904
00:55:59,367 --> 00:56:00,500
THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
1905
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:02,200
PokerStars AND FULL TILT --
1906
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,333
PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
1907
00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:05,267
THEY JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER
1908
00:56:05,267 --> 00:56:07,100
OR NOT PERSONALLY THEY WANT TO
1909
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:07,800
TAKE THE RISK.
1910
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,533
THERE WAS A RISK, BUT THERE WAS
1911
00:56:09,533 --> 00:56:11,667
ALSO A HUGE REWARD.
1912
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:30,433
>> ONCE PartyPoker LEFT THE
1913
00:56:30,433 --> 00:56:32,200
MARKET, IT BECAME A WIDE-OPEN
1914
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,733
RACE BETWEEN PokerStars AND
1915
00:56:33,733 --> 00:56:35,233
FULL TILT.
1916
00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:36,667
>> EVERY YEAR THAT PASSED AFTER
1917
00:56:36,667 --> 00:56:38,167
THE UIGEA, THEY GOT A LITTLE
1918
00:56:38,167 --> 00:56:39,233
MORE BOLD.
1919
00:56:39,467 --> 00:56:40,300
>> I'M ALL IN.
1920
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:41,533
>> PokerStars AND FULL TILT
1921
00:56:41,533 --> 00:56:42,633
AGGRESSIVELY WENT AFTER
1922
00:56:42,633 --> 00:56:44,233
TELEVISION SHOWS.
1923
00:56:44,233 --> 00:56:45,133
FULL TILT CREATED
1924
00:56:45,133 --> 00:56:46,133
"POKER AFTER DARK."
1925
00:56:46,133 --> 00:56:47,467
PokerStars HAD "THE BIG GAME."
1926
00:56:47,467 --> 00:56:48,700
AND THE TWO WERE CONSTANTLY
1927
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:49,867
BATTLING FOR ONLINE POKER
1928
00:56:49,867 --> 00:56:50,700
SUPREMACY.
1929
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:52,500
>> THESE ARE THE TOP TWO TEAMS,
1930
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,167
AND IT'S INEVITABLE THAT ONE
1931
00:56:54,167 --> 00:56:55,467
WANTS TO UP THE OTHER.
1932
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:57,467
>> WE'RE VERY PROUD TODAY TO
1933
00:56:57,467 --> 00:56:59,333
ANNOUNCE TOM DWAN AS THE NEWEST
1934
00:56:59,333 --> 00:57:00,633
MEMBER OF TEAM FULL TILT.
1935
00:57:00,633 --> 00:57:02,333
>> THEY PAID ME ELEVENTY BILLION
1936
00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:02,800
DOLLARS.
1937
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,533
AND I WAS HOLDING OUT FOR
1938
00:57:04,533 --> 00:57:06,233
TWELVEDY BILLION, BUT ALL I GOT
1939
00:57:06,233 --> 00:57:06,867
WAS ELEVENTY.
1940
00:57:06,867 --> 00:57:08,300
THERE WAS DEFINITELY DISCUSSION.
1941
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:09,300
WHAT'S THE BETTER SITE?
1942
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:10,467
BUT I THINK THAT, IN A SENSE,
1943
00:57:10,467 --> 00:57:11,133
HELPED BOTH.
1944
00:57:11,133 --> 00:57:12,233
KIND OF LIKE THE COKE-PEPSI
1945
00:57:12,233 --> 00:57:13,467
SITUATION WHERE THEY BECAME THE
1946
00:57:13,467 --> 00:57:15,100
TWO THAT ELEVATED EACH OTHER.
1947
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:16,367
>> THE PARADE DOESN'T STOP.
1948
00:57:16,367 --> 00:57:17,667
THE PLAYERS CONTINUE TO PLAY.
1949
00:57:17,667 --> 00:57:19,167
THE MONEY KEEPS ROLLING IN.
1950
00:57:19,167 --> 00:57:21,133
AND WHATEVER PartyPoker WAS
1951
00:57:21,133 --> 00:57:23,167
MAKING IN 2004 AND 2005, IT'S
1952
00:57:23,167 --> 00:57:24,500
TRIPLED, DOUBLED, QUADRUPLED,
1953
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:25,167
WHATEVER.
1954
00:57:25,167 --> 00:57:28,500
BY 2011, PokerStars IS BY FAR
1955
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:30,100
THE WORLD'S LARGEST POKER ROOM,
1956
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:31,300
OPERATING IN HUNDREDS OF
1957
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:32,733
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE
1958
00:57:32,733 --> 00:57:33,300
WORLD.
1959
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:34,667
>> PokerStars AGGRESSIVELY WENT
1960
00:57:34,667 --> 00:57:36,267
AFTER THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET.
1961
00:57:36,267 --> 00:57:41,433
>> [ SPEAKING GERMAN ]
1962
00:57:41,433 --> 00:57:43,133
>> SO THEY'RE BRANCHING OUT ALL
1963
00:57:43,133 --> 00:57:44,333
OVER THE WORLD, WHEREAS
1964
00:57:44,333 --> 00:57:45,800
FULL TILT DECIDED, "HEY, WE'RE
1965
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,300
JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THE
1966
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:48,133
AMERICAN MARKET."
1967
00:57:48,367 --> 00:57:49,200
>> IT'S A KING!
1968
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,133
>> KING!
1969
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:52,167
>> THAT'S UNREAL.
1970
00:57:52,167 --> 00:57:54,100
>> THE SUCCESS OF PokerStars
1971
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:55,400
AFTER THEIR GLOBAL MARKETING
1972
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,800
SHOWED THAT ONLINE POKER COULD
1973
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,667
BE BIGGER THAN ANYONE EXPECTED.
1974
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,133
WE THOUGHT IT WAS BIG WITH
1975
00:58:00,133 --> 00:58:01,300
PartyPoker, AND PokerStars TOOK
1976
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:02,133
IT TO A NEW LEVEL.
1977
00:58:02,133 --> 00:58:03,767
>> WE ARE THE WORLD CHAMPION
1978
00:58:03,767 --> 00:58:05,600
RIGHT HERE.
1979
00:58:30,433 --> 00:58:32,100
>> WITH THE PASSING OF THE
1980
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:33,700
UIGEA, THERE WAS A NOTICEABLE
1981
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:35,467
SHIFT IN WHAT STARTED POPPING
1982
00:58:35,467 --> 00:58:37,100
UP ON YOUR ONLINE TABLES.
1983
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:38,733
I MEAN, YOU STARTED FINDING THAT
1984
00:58:38,733 --> 00:58:40,500
RATHER THAN HAVING THREE OUT OF
1985
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:41,800
SIX PLAYERS BE PROFESSIONAL
1986
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,467
PLAYERS, MAYBE FIVE OUT SIX WERE
1987
00:58:43,467 --> 00:58:45,100
PROFESSIONALS AND THE SIXTH GUY
1988
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:46,833
WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD.
1989
00:58:46,833 --> 00:58:48,467
I GUESS IT BECAME MORE DEFINED
1990
00:58:48,467 --> 00:58:50,167
HOW GOOD YOU COULD ACTUALLY BE.
1991
00:58:50,167 --> 00:58:52,633
LIKE, IT WASN'T JUST LIKE GOOD,
1992
00:58:52,633 --> 00:58:53,867
AVERAGE, BAD.
1993
00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:55,567
IT WAS LIKE GOOD, BETTER,
1994
00:58:55,567 --> 00:58:57,500
REALLY, REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW.
1995
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,233
IT GOT A BIT MORE SPECIFIC AS TO
1996
00:58:59,233 --> 00:59:00,633
HOW GOOD REALLY GOOD PLAYERS
1997
00:59:00,633 --> 00:59:04,467
WERE.
1998
00:59:04,467 --> 00:59:06,133
FOR A WHILE ONLINE, THERE WAS
1999
00:59:06,133 --> 00:59:07,633
DEFINITELY THIS ONLINE CULTURE
2000
00:59:07,633 --> 00:59:09,400
OF PEOPLE KIND OF TESTING THEIR
2001
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,100
METTLE AGAINST EACH OTHER THAT
2002
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:12,500
ALMOST CAME TO THE POINT OF
2003
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:14,167
HILARIOUSNESS, WHERE EVERYONE
2004
00:59:14,167 --> 00:59:15,367
WOULD PLAY ANYONE AT ANY MOMENT,
2005
00:59:15,367 --> 00:59:16,567
LIKE, "OH, I'VE MADE A FAIR BIT
2006
00:59:16,567 --> 00:59:17,533
OF MONEY PLAYING POKER.
2007
00:59:17,533 --> 00:59:18,733
LET'S SEE HOW GOOD I ACTUALLY AM
2008
00:59:18,733 --> 00:59:20,133
AT IT, EVEN IF IT COSTS ME A BIT
2009
00:59:20,133 --> 00:59:21,667
OF MONEY TO FIND OUT."
2010
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:28,133
>> PEOPLE JUST WANT TO PLAY THE
2011
00:59:28,133 --> 00:59:29,167
BIGGEST STAKES THERE IS.
2012
00:59:29,167 --> 00:59:30,433
THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, AND
2013
00:59:30,433 --> 00:59:31,633
THEY'RE LIKE, "I WANT TO PLAY
2014
00:59:31,633 --> 00:59:32,833
THE BIGGEST STAKES POKER THERE
2015
00:59:32,833 --> 00:59:33,700
IS."
2016
00:59:34,133 --> 00:59:36,133
AND SOME AMOUNT OF THOSE PEOPLE
2017
00:59:36,133 --> 00:59:37,433
WANT TO PLAY BIGGER STAKES THAN
2018
00:59:37,433 --> 00:59:38,733
THERE HAS BEEN.
2019
00:59:39,167 --> 00:59:40,467
>> IT SORT OF HAPPENED
2020
00:59:40,467 --> 00:59:42,300
OVERNIGHT THAT FULL TILT POKER
2021
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:43,833
BECAME THE EPICENTER FOR THE
2022
00:59:43,833 --> 00:59:45,467
BIGGEST CASH GAMES ONLINE.
2023
00:59:45,467 --> 00:59:47,533
THE NOSEBLEED GAMES, AS THEY
2024
00:59:47,533 --> 00:59:49,767
CALLED THEM, WERE JUST AMAZING.
2025
00:59:49,767 --> 00:59:51,267
YOU'D NEVER EVEN IMAGINE THAT
2026
00:59:51,267 --> 00:59:52,600
GAMES COULD BE THIS BIG ON THE
2027
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,667
INTERNET.
2028
00:59:53,667 --> 00:59:55,333
>> FOR A WHILE, THERE WERE A
2029
00:59:55,333 --> 00:59:56,733
BUNCH OF $500,000 NO-LIMIT
2030
00:59:56,733 --> 00:59:58,167
HOLD 'EM RING GAMES, AND
2031
00:59:58,167 --> 00:59:59,633
MILLIONS CHANGED HANDS BETWEEN
2032
00:59:59,633 --> 01:00:01,333
THE BIGGEST WINNERS AND LOSERS.
2033
01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:03,300
>> NOBODY COULD BELIEVE THIS WAS
2034
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:04,167
REAL MONEY.
2035
01:00:04,167 --> 01:00:05,833
THESE WERE BIGGER THAN MOST OF
2036
01:00:05,833 --> 01:00:08,233
THE BIG LIVE GAMES.
2037
01:00:08,467 --> 01:00:11,767
>> THE MOST I'VE EVER WON IN A
2038
01:00:11,767 --> 01:00:14,767
SESSION WAS $1.6-SOMETHING
2039
01:00:14,767 --> 01:00:16,267
MILLION.
2040
01:00:16,267 --> 01:00:18,533
IT'S TOUGH TO PLAY NOSEBLEEDS
2041
01:00:18,533 --> 01:00:19,867
EXCLUSIVELY FOR A LIVING
2042
01:00:19,867 --> 01:00:21,500
BECAUSE THE SWINGS ARE JUST
2043
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:23,500
MASSIVE.
2044
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:24,667
>> WHEN ONLINE POKER STARTED
2045
01:00:24,667 --> 01:00:26,167
HAVING GAMES SO HIGH STAKES THAT
2046
01:00:26,167 --> 01:00:27,333
YOU COULD LOSE $500,000 IN A
2047
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:28,533
SINGLE SESSION, IT WAS JUST A
2048
01:00:28,533 --> 01:00:29,800
FAN'S WET DREAM.
2049
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,333
>> IT SORT OF CREATED A
2050
01:00:31,333 --> 01:00:33,100
CIRCUS-LIKE ATMOSPHERE, WHERE
2051
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:34,667
PEOPLE WANTED JUST TO LOG ON TO
2052
01:00:34,667 --> 01:00:36,167
FULL TILT JUST TO WATCH.
2053
01:00:36,167 --> 01:00:37,733
>> IT THINK IT MAKES SENSE, YOU
2054
01:00:37,733 --> 01:00:39,567
KNOW, THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT AT
2055
01:00:39,567 --> 01:00:41,400
THEIR COMPUTER THE ABILITY TO
2056
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,267
WATCH, YOU KNOW, $200,000 POTS
2057
01:00:43,267 --> 01:00:49,800
THAT ARE REAL.
2058
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,433
>> I'VE PLAYED MY FAIR SHARE OF
2059
01:00:51,433 --> 01:00:52,367
NOSEBLEED STAKES.
2060
01:00:52,367 --> 01:00:53,767
I GUESS THE HIGHEST I'VE REALLY
2061
01:00:53,767 --> 01:00:55,333
PLAYED A LOT OF MILEAGE AT IS
2062
01:00:55,333 --> 01:00:56,733
$100/$200.
2063
01:00:56,733 --> 01:00:57,767
STRANGELY ENOUGH, IT DIDN'T
2064
01:00:57,767 --> 01:00:59,133
ACTUALLY REALLY FEEL THAT WEIRD
2065
01:00:59,133 --> 01:01:00,833
TO START PLAYING THESE STAKES.
2066
01:01:00,833 --> 01:01:03,200
I GUESS AFTER PLAYING FOR FIVE
2067
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,800
YEARS AT THE TIME, YOUR
2068
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,833
DESENSITIVITY TO SWINGS AND
2069
01:01:06,833 --> 01:01:09,100
MONEY, OR AT LEAST MINE, HAD
2070
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,267
BECOME SO STRONG THAT ONCE YOU
2071
01:01:11,267 --> 01:01:13,467
STARTED PLAYING AND WINNING AND
2072
01:01:13,467 --> 01:01:15,533
LOSING $200,000 IN A DAY, IT
2073
01:01:15,533 --> 01:01:17,800
JUST KIND OF FELT NATURAL, WHICH
2074
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,233
IS WHY, I GUESS AS AN OBSERVER,
2075
01:01:20,233 --> 01:01:22,600
EVEN ONE THAT PLAYS POKER,
2076
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,133
WATCHING PEOPLE PLAY HIGHER THAN
2077
01:01:24,133 --> 01:01:25,700
THAT SEEMS INSANE, LIKE, WINNING
2078
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:27,333
AND LOSING A MILLION DOLLARS,
2079
01:01:27,333 --> 01:01:28,800
BUT I GUESS THEY JUST HAD THAT
2080
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,567
SAME FEELING ON A SCALE ABOVE ME
2081
01:01:30,567 --> 01:01:35,733
FOR BETTER OR WORSE.
2082
01:01:36,167 --> 01:01:37,800
>> AS MUCH AS I LOVE BEING A
2083
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,733
POKER PLAYER, I THINK IT'S ONE
2084
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:41,367
OF THE MOST EMOTIONALLY
2085
01:01:41,367 --> 01:01:43,233
CHALLENGING PROFESSIONS I CAN
2086
01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:44,867
THINK OF.
2087
01:01:44,867 --> 01:01:46,667
OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY HAS STRESS
2088
01:01:46,667 --> 01:01:48,500
AT WORK, BUT A POKER PLAYER CAN
2089
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:50,333
ACTUALLY LOSE MONEY AT WORK AND
2090
01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:51,733
CAN LOSE MONEY AT WORK FOR
2091
01:01:51,733 --> 01:01:53,500
MONTHS AT A TIME, FOR A WHOLE
2092
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:54,533
YEAR.
2093
01:01:54,767 --> 01:01:56,533
>> WELL, THE MAIN PSYCHOLOGICAL
2094
01:01:56,533 --> 01:01:58,333
CHALLENGE THAT A POKER PLAYER IS
2095
01:01:58,333 --> 01:01:59,800
FACED WITH IS JUST THAT A LOT
2096
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,533
OF THE TIME JUST LOSE A LOT OF
2097
01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:03,267
MONEY, AND YOU LOSE CONSTANTLY.
2098
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:05,367
LIKE, THERE IS NO PROFESSIONAL
2099
01:02:05,367 --> 01:02:07,267
POKER PLAYER WHO HASN'T HAD AT
2100
01:02:07,267 --> 01:02:08,800
LEAST ONE OR MAYBE TWO JUST
2101
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,433
DEMORALIZING LONG LOSING
2102
01:02:10,433 --> 01:02:11,767
STRETCHES WHERE THE CARDS AREN'T
2103
01:02:11,767 --> 01:02:13,233
RUNNING WELL FOR YOU, AND THEN
2104
01:02:13,233 --> 01:02:14,467
YOU LOSE YOUR CONFIDENCE, AND
2105
01:02:14,467 --> 01:02:15,667
THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
2106
01:02:15,667 --> 01:02:17,100
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE PLAYING
2107
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:17,400
WELL.
2108
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,633
AND THE PROBLEM WITH POKER IS
2109
01:02:18,633 --> 01:02:20,167
THAT A LOT OF TIMES YOUR RESULTS
2110
01:02:20,167 --> 01:02:21,433
DON'T ACTUALLY CORRELATE WITH
2111
01:02:21,433 --> 01:02:22,633
YOUR SKILL OVER LIKE A GIVEN
2112
01:02:22,633 --> 01:02:24,400
MONTH, LET'S SAY.
2113
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,833
>> SO YOU CAN BE PLAYING REALLY,
2114
01:02:25,833 --> 01:02:27,400
REALLY WELL AND LOSING MONEY,
2115
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,667
AND IT'S NOT AS IF YOU KNOW
2116
01:02:28,667 --> 01:02:30,133
YOU'RE PLAYING REALLY WELL,
2117
01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:31,300
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH
2118
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:32,400
UNCERTAINTY, YOU KNOW.
2119
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,733
>> WHEN YOU GO THROUGH A
2120
01:02:33,733 --> 01:02:35,600
DOWNSWING AS A POKER PLAYER, THE
2121
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,400
DIFFICULT PART IS NOT THE MONEY
2122
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,400
YOU LOST.
2123
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,600
THE DIFFICULT PART IS THAT IT
2124
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,867
MAKES YOU QUESTION YOUR ABILITY
2125
01:02:40,867 --> 01:02:42,533
TO MAKE MONEY IN THE FUTURE.
2126
01:02:42,533 --> 01:02:44,633
SO IF I GO ON AN $800,000
2127
01:02:44,633 --> 01:02:47,233
DOWNSWING, WHAT'S TOUGH IS NOT
2128
01:02:47,233 --> 01:02:48,867
THE $800,000 I LOST.
2129
01:02:48,867 --> 01:02:50,633
I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH.
2130
01:02:50,633 --> 01:02:53,433
WHAT'S TOUGH IS...
2131
01:02:53,433 --> 01:02:55,333
WHAT IF I CAN'T BEAT THIS GAME
2132
01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:55,667
ANYMORE?
2133
01:02:55,667 --> 01:02:56,733
WHAT IF I CAN'T BEAT IT FOR AS
2134
01:02:56,733 --> 01:02:57,600
MUCH AS I COULD HAVE?
2135
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,600
AND NOW MY, OVER THE NEXT
2136
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,133
10 YEARS, EXPECTATION OF MAKING
2137
01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:03,867
$20 MILLION, OR WHATEVER IT IS,
2138
01:03:03,867 --> 01:03:05,033
I LOST THAT.
2139
01:03:05,267 --> 01:03:06,600
>> EVEN WHEN IT'S OBVIOUS, EVEN
2140
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,867
WHEN IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS THAT
2141
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,433
YOU JUST GOT UNLUCKY, IT DOESN'T
2142
01:03:09,433 --> 01:03:10,467
MATTER.
2143
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:11,667
EVERYONE WILL QUESTION
2144
01:03:11,667 --> 01:03:12,300
THEMSELVES.
2145
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:13,667
THEY'LL SAY, "MAYBE I'M JUST NOT
2146
01:03:13,667 --> 01:03:14,367
THAT GOOD.
2147
01:03:14,367 --> 01:03:15,700
MAYBE THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE
2148
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:17,200
JUST BEEN, YOU KNOW, A FLUKE.
2149
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,333
MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOSING
2150
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:19,367
ALL THIS TIME AND I JUST GOT
2151
01:03:19,367 --> 01:03:20,400
LUCKY AND NOW THE REALITY IS
2152
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,367
JUST SETTING IN.
2153
01:03:21,367 --> 01:03:23,833
AND IT CAN BE VERY HARD TO BREAK
2154
01:03:23,833 --> 01:03:26,133
AWAY FROM THAT AND REMAIN
2155
01:03:26,133 --> 01:03:27,333
OBJECTIVE.
2156
01:03:27,333 --> 01:03:29,200
YOU'RE ALWAYS BEING TESTED.
2157
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,300
ALWAYS.
2158
01:03:31,533 --> 01:03:33,500
>> FOR MOST PEOPLE, ONLINE POKER
2159
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:35,367
AND POKER IN GENERAL TENDS TO
2160
01:03:35,367 --> 01:03:37,267
BE BETTER SUITED FOR PART-TIME
2161
01:03:37,267 --> 01:03:39,133
PLAYERS, NOT PROFESSIONALS.
2162
01:03:39,367 --> 01:03:41,333
BECAUSE THE ADDED STRESS OF
2163
01:03:41,333 --> 01:03:43,433
HAVING A FAMILY LIFE OR HAVING
2164
01:03:43,433 --> 01:03:45,300
CHILDREN CAN OFTEN BE THE
2165
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:47,267
TIPPING POINT FOR PEOPLE TO
2166
01:03:47,267 --> 01:03:49,333
REALLY STRUGGLE MENTALLY WITH
2167
01:03:49,333 --> 01:03:51,400
SOME OF THE HIGHS AND LOWS OF
2168
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:58,200
THE GAME.
2169
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,467
>> RIGHT BEFORE UIGEA, I WAS ON
2170
01:04:00,467 --> 01:04:02,767
A REALLY BIG DOWNSWING IN POKER,
2171
01:04:02,767 --> 01:04:05,300
AND I WAS KIND OF AT AN ALL-TIME
2172
01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,100
LOW.
2173
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:07,700
I HATED PLAYING.
2174
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:09,100
I HATED EVERY SINGLE TIME I SAT
2175
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:10,300
DOWN AT THAT COMPUTER TO PUT IN
2176
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:10,733
A SESSION.
2177
01:04:10,733 --> 01:04:11,833
THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT
2178
01:04:11,833 --> 01:04:13,167
THINGS WERE JUST GOING TO GO
2179
01:04:13,167 --> 01:04:14,333
TERRIBLE AND THAT I WAS GOING
2180
01:04:14,333 --> 01:04:15,533
TO END UP FEELING LIKE I WANTED
2181
01:04:15,533 --> 01:04:18,800
TO CURL UP INTO A BALL AND DIE.
2182
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,100
>> AT THAT POINT, MY THOUGHT WAS
2183
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:23,133
THAT IT WASN'T WORTH ALL OF THE
2184
01:04:23,133 --> 01:04:25,133
EMOTION THAT WAS GOING ON, YOU
2185
01:04:25,133 --> 01:04:25,600
KNOW.
2186
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,333
IT WAS LIKE POKER ALMOST
2187
01:04:27,333 --> 01:04:29,433
CONTROLLED WHO SHE WAS, KIND OF,
2188
01:04:29,433 --> 01:04:30,300
AT THAT TIME.
2189
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:31,800
YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A GOOD DAY
2190
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,467
IN POKER, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A
2191
01:04:33,467 --> 01:04:34,700
GOOD DAY AT OUR HOUSE.
2192
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:36,467
IF IT WAS A BAD DAY AT POKER, IT
2193
01:04:36,467 --> 01:04:37,867
WAS A BAD DAY AT OUR HOUSE.
2194
01:04:37,867 --> 01:04:39,833
>> I WOULD SAY AT THAT POINT I
2195
01:04:39,833 --> 01:04:41,700
WAS BORDERING ON DEPRESSION.
2196
01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:43,433
JUST WITH EVERY SINGLE LOSING
2197
01:04:43,433 --> 01:04:45,100
SESSION, EVERY SINGLE LOSS,
2198
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,600
EVERY SINGLE BAD BEAT, EVERY
2199
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,400
SINGLE DOWNSWING, IT JUST STUCK
2200
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,267
WITH ME, AND I COULDN'T GO ABOUT
2201
01:04:50,267 --> 01:04:51,833
MY DAILY ACTIVITIES WITHOUT IT
2202
01:04:51,833 --> 01:04:53,567
HANGING OVER MY HEAD AND JUST
2203
01:04:53,567 --> 01:04:58,333
BRINGING ME DOWN.
2204
01:04:58,333 --> 01:05:00,267
>> I WAS HEAVY INTO GAMBLING.
2205
01:05:00,267 --> 01:05:01,733
I CAN GIVE YOU A STORY.
2206
01:05:01,733 --> 01:05:03,567
AFTER WORK ONE DAY -- AND I
2207
01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:05,400
DIDN'T MAKE MUCH MONEY BACK
2208
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:05,867
THEN.
2209
01:05:05,867 --> 01:05:07,833
NEITHER ONE OF US DID, REALLY.
2210
01:05:07,833 --> 01:05:10,167
AND I STOPPED AT A BAR WITH MY
2211
01:05:10,167 --> 01:05:12,300
SISTER, AND I CASHED MY CHECK.
2212
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:13,867
I HAD SPENT ALL THAT IN
2213
01:05:13,867 --> 01:05:16,300
PULL-TABS AND THEN TURNED AROUND
2214
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,500
AND BORROWED MY SISTER'S CHECK.
2215
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:20,567
SO BOTH CHECKS ARE JUST ABOUT
2216
01:05:20,567 --> 01:05:21,267
GONE.
2217
01:05:21,267 --> 01:05:23,300
BUT THE PEOPLE THERE KNEW ME
2218
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:25,533
WELL ENOUGH, THEY LET ME BUY THE
2219
01:05:25,533 --> 01:05:30,600
BOX OUT, AND I LOST ABOUT $100.
2220
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,767
WELL, I FELT LIKE I JUST WON,
2221
01:05:32,767 --> 01:05:35,300
BECAUSE AT LEAST I HAD ENOUGH TO
2222
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:37,433
PAY MY SISTER BACK AND STILL
2223
01:05:37,433 --> 01:05:39,600
COME HOME TO LORI WITH MONEY.
2224
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,300
OTHERWISE, TWO PAYCHECKS WOULD
2225
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:43,733
HAVE BEEN GONE.
2226
01:05:43,733 --> 01:05:45,433
>> SEEING WHAT HE WENT THROUGH
2227
01:05:45,433 --> 01:05:46,767
WITH HIS PROBLEM GAMBLING
2228
01:05:46,767 --> 01:05:48,533
DEFINITELY MADE ME MORE AWARE OF
2229
01:05:48,533 --> 01:05:51,300
MY OWN HABITS WITH POKER.
2230
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:52,733
I KIND OF WORRY A LITTLE BIT
2231
01:05:52,733 --> 01:05:54,533
ABOUT, LIKE, MAYBE I GENETICALLY
2232
01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:56,333
HAVE THAT IN ME AND I JUST
2233
01:05:56,333 --> 01:05:58,333
HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, GIVEN IT THE
2234
01:05:58,333 --> 01:06:00,333
OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE, KIND OF.
2235
01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:02,200
>> SO WHEN SHE SAID SHE WAS
2236
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,700
GOING INTO PROFESSIONAL
2237
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:05,767
GAMBLING, I MEAN, IT SCARED THE
2238
01:06:05,767 --> 01:06:06,667
HELL OUT OF ME.
2239
01:06:06,667 --> 01:06:08,367
'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE COULD HAVE
2240
01:06:08,367 --> 01:06:09,867
HAD IN LIFE AND WE DIDN'T GET IN
2241
01:06:09,867 --> 01:06:17,833
LIFE BECAUSE OF ME.
2242
01:06:17,833 --> 01:06:20,633
>> PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST
2243
01:06:20,633 --> 01:06:23,300
THINGS THAT CHANGED WAS MORE
2244
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:25,700
WHEN DANI GOT PREGNANT WITH
2245
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:28,433
EASTON IS WHEN SHE MADE A BIG
2246
01:06:28,433 --> 01:06:31,167
COMMITMENT TO CONTROLLING HER
2247
01:06:31,167 --> 01:06:32,400
EMOTIONS.
2248
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,567
>> HI!
2249
01:06:33,567 --> 01:06:34,300
>> HI!
2250
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:35,867
>> I MISSED YOU TODAY!
2251
01:06:35,867 --> 01:06:36,700
HOW ARE YOU?
2252
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:38,433
WHEN I GOT PREGNANT WITH EASTON,
2253
01:06:38,433 --> 01:06:40,167
THAT WAS A HUGE TURNING POINT IN
2254
01:06:40,167 --> 01:06:41,133
MY POKER CAREER.
2255
01:06:41,133 --> 01:06:42,533
IT JUST GAVE ME SO MUCH MORE
2256
01:06:42,533 --> 01:06:46,467
DRIVE AND DEVOTION TO, YOU KNOW,
2257
01:06:46,467 --> 01:06:48,733
TO BEING RESPONSIBLE.
2258
01:06:48,733 --> 01:06:50,433
>> IT WAS DIFFERENT WHEN SHE WAS
2259
01:06:50,433 --> 01:06:51,767
PREGNANT, BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T
2260
01:06:51,767 --> 01:06:53,400
HAVE THAT CHOICE TO BE ABLE TO
2261
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,800
REACT EMOTIONALLY BECAUSE SHE
2262
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,233
KNEW THAT IT AFFECTED OUR
2263
01:06:56,233 --> 01:06:57,700
FAMILY AND THAT IT WOULD AFFECT
2264
01:06:57,700 --> 01:06:58,633
EASTON.
2265
01:06:58,633 --> 01:07:00,400
NOW I CAN, YOU KNOW, SIT HERE
2266
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,167
AND BE DOING SOMETHING ACROSS
2267
01:07:02,167 --> 01:07:03,833
THE ROOM AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL ASK
2268
01:07:03,833 --> 01:07:05,600
HER HOW HER SESSION WENT, AND
2269
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,167
"MEH, I LOST $5,000," OR
2270
01:07:07,167 --> 01:07:09,300
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW,
2271
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:10,867
AND I DIDN'T NOTICE.
2272
01:07:10,867 --> 01:07:12,733
>> EVERYTHING WAS GOING GREAT,
2273
01:07:12,733 --> 01:07:14,600
BUT I KIND OF FELT LIKE I JUST
2274
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,533
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAD A
2275
01:07:16,533 --> 01:07:18,233
BACKUP PLAN AND THAT I HAD
2276
01:07:18,233 --> 01:07:20,367
SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ON.
2277
01:07:20,367 --> 01:07:22,633
SO I DECIDED TO GO BACK TO
2278
01:07:22,633 --> 01:07:23,500
SCHOOL.
2279
01:07:23,733 --> 01:07:26,400
>> ONCE SHE GOT THE RN, THEN I
2280
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,367
RELAXED.
2281
01:07:27,367 --> 01:07:29,133
BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, "ALL RIGHT,
2282
01:07:29,133 --> 01:07:30,500
YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL POKER
2283
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:32,200
PLAYER, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T RELY
2284
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,600
ON THAT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
2285
01:07:33,833 --> 01:07:35,733
YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK
2286
01:07:35,733 --> 01:07:36,300
ON."
2287
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:38,533
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
2288
01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:39,733
NOW I JUST HAVE ALL THE
2289
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:41,567
CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD OF HER.
2290
01:07:53,633 --> 01:07:54,800
>> ALL RIGHT, JEREMY, YOU CAN
2291
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,133
EITHER HANG OUT AND WATCH THE
2292
01:07:56,133 --> 01:07:57,267
TOURNAMENT OR YOU CAN PAY ME
2293
01:07:57,267 --> 01:07:57,567
BACK.
2294
01:07:57,567 --> 01:07:58,733
WELL, WHEN CAN YOU PAY ME BACK
2295
01:07:58,733 --> 01:08:01,133
IF I LEND YOU?
2296
01:08:01,133 --> 01:08:02,433
>> DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH.
2297
01:08:02,433 --> 01:08:03,367
>> WHAT'S THAT?
2298
01:08:03,367 --> 01:08:04,433
OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
2299
01:08:04,433 --> 01:08:06,500
UH, WE ARE GOING TO WATCH THE
2300
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:08,567
PREMIERE OF "THE RAW DEAL" ON
2301
01:08:08,567 --> 01:08:10,733
THE WORLD POKER TOUR AND JUST
2302
01:08:10,733 --> 01:08:13,100
KIND OF HANG OUT, PLAY A LITTLE
2303
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:15,500
BLIND MAN'S BLUFF POKER, AND, I
2304
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:17,333
DON'T KNOW, JUST RELAX, ENJOY.
2305
01:08:17,333 --> 01:08:19,300
>> IZZY WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
2306
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:20,800
>> THIS IS A HANDICAP.
2307
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,800
THIS IS NOT FAIR.
2308
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,533
I'VE GOT A DOG'S ASS IN MY FACE.
2309
01:08:23,533 --> 01:08:24,200
[ LAUGHTER ]
2310
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,400
>> YEAH, I THINK MY FRIENDS WILL
2311
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:30,733
TELL ME IF THEY THINK IT SUCKS.
2312
01:08:30,733 --> 01:08:32,167
>> IT IS NO-LIMIT.
2313
01:08:32,167 --> 01:08:37,833
[ LAUGHTER ]
2314
01:08:37,833 --> 01:08:39,500
>> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I'M
2315
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:41,400
NERVOUS, BUT I AM EXCITED TO SEE
2316
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,567
HOW IT TURNS OUT.
2317
01:08:42,567 --> 01:08:44,600
BECAUSE IT TOOK A COUPLE OF GOES
2318
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,500
TO GET THIS RIGHT, AND, YEAH,
2319
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:48,233
I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW IT WILL
2320
01:08:48,233 --> 01:08:49,500
TURN OUT AND WHAT PEOPLE'S
2321
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:50,433
REACTION WILL BE.
2322
01:08:50,433 --> 01:08:51,167
>> GOOD FOLD.
2323
01:08:51,167 --> 01:08:52,467
>> YEAH!
2324
01:08:52,467 --> 01:08:54,400
I GOT THE ACE OUT, THOUGH.
2325
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,567
>> THAT WAS A GOOD SPOT.
2326
01:08:55,567 --> 01:08:57,133
>> YOU'VE GOT TOO MANY CHIPS..
2327
01:08:57,133 --> 01:08:58,567
YOU JUST GOT TO KEEP HIM HONEST.
2328
01:08:58,567 --> 01:09:00,433
>> THIS SEASON ON THE WPT, WE
2329
01:09:00,433 --> 01:09:02,433
HAVE A NEW FEATURE, WHICH BRINGS
2330
01:09:02,433 --> 01:09:04,433
YOU IN-DEPTH COMMENTARY FROM ONE
2331
01:09:04,433 --> 01:09:06,400
OF THE BRIGHTEST YOUNG MINDS IN
2332
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,267
THE GAME IN A SEGMENT WE CALL
2333
01:09:08,267 --> 01:09:09,100
"THE RAW DEAL."
2334
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:15,633
>> I THINK THIS MAY BE IT.
2335
01:09:15,633 --> 01:09:16,233
HI.
2336
01:09:16,233 --> 01:09:18,300
I'M TONY DUNST, KNOWN ONLINE
2337
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:19,233
AS BOND18.
2338
01:09:19,233 --> 01:09:20,767
LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT
2339
01:09:20,767 --> 01:09:21,500
LAST HAND.
2340
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:22,667
>> LOOK AT THAT HANDSOME
2341
01:09:22,667 --> 01:09:23,367
GENTLEMAN.
2342
01:09:23,367 --> 01:09:24,767
>> ...SIMPLY BECAUSE HE HAS THE
2343
01:09:24,767 --> 01:09:25,867
BALLS TO TRY AND BLUFF
2344
01:09:25,867 --> 01:09:26,567
PHIL IVEY.
2345
01:09:26,567 --> 01:09:28,133
HOWEVER THE RIVER BLUFF IS A
2346
01:09:28,133 --> 01:09:29,533
CLEAR MISTAKE, AND HERE'S WHY.
2347
01:09:29,533 --> 01:09:30,867
FIRST, HIS ASSIGNED PRICE OF
2348
01:09:30,867 --> 01:09:32,400
NEARLY 4-TO-1 TO MAKE A CALL
2349
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,867
WITH ANYTHING IN HIS RANGE THAT
2350
01:09:33,867 --> 01:09:35,167
HAS SHOWDOWN VALUE.
2351
01:09:35,167 --> 01:09:36,700
SECOND, I THINK JOHN IS FAILING
2352
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:37,733
TO THINK ABOUT...
2353
01:09:37,733 --> 01:09:39,400
POKER HAS NOT JUST PROVIDED A
2354
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,600
FEW THINGS TO MY LIFE.
2355
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,300
IT HAS GIVEN ME MY LIFE.
2356
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:45,700
ONE DAY, I WAS ON MY COUCH,
2357
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:47,400
WATCHING THIS SHOW, AND THESE
2358
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,767
PEOPLE WHO BACK THEN I ALL
2359
01:09:48,767 --> 01:09:50,333
THOUGHT WERE SUPERSTARS OF
2360
01:09:50,333 --> 01:09:51,800
POKER AND AMAZING AT THE GAME
2361
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,533
AND, YOU KNOW, PERSONALITIES I
2362
01:09:53,533 --> 01:09:55,167
WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE TO
2363
01:09:55,167 --> 01:09:56,667
MEET, AND NOW I'M THE GUY WHO
2364
01:09:56,667 --> 01:10:00,233
CRAFTS PETTY INSULTS AT THEM.
2365
01:10:00,233 --> 01:10:02,067
AND IT'S SO ABSURD.
2366
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,233
>> THIS IS DIXIE.
2367
01:10:17,233 --> 01:10:18,433
>> DIXIE.
2368
01:10:18,433 --> 01:10:21,400
HI, BABY. HI.
2369
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,667
HELLO, SWEETHEART. HOW ARE YOU?
2370
01:10:25,667 --> 01:10:27,633
YEAH. WHAT DO YOU THINK? HMM?
2371
01:10:27,633 --> 01:10:29,533
IT'S JUST SURREAL TO ME THAT
2372
01:10:29,533 --> 01:10:31,500
DANI IS BUYING ME THIS HORSE,
2373
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:33,433
BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I
2374
01:10:33,433 --> 01:10:35,167
NEVER THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN.
2375
01:10:35,167 --> 01:10:37,300
I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE ABLE TO
2376
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:39,367
HAVE A HORSE AGAIN, AND IF IT
2377
01:10:39,367 --> 01:10:41,333
WASN'T FOR DANI AND FOR HER
2378
01:10:41,333 --> 01:10:43,400
POKER PLAYING, IT NEVER WOULD
2379
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,533
HAVE HAPPENED.
2380
01:10:44,533 --> 01:10:45,633
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
2381
01:10:45,633 --> 01:10:46,633
DO WE LOOK ALIKE?
2382
01:10:46,633 --> 01:10:48,233
HUH?
2383
01:10:48,233 --> 01:10:49,600
>> I THINK MY MOM ALREADY LOVES
2384
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,800
THE HORSE, AND I'M GUESSING
2385
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,233
WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE HAVING
2386
01:10:52,233 --> 01:10:54,433
PURCHASED A NEW HORSE.
2387
01:10:54,433 --> 01:10:56,333
I'M PRETTY EXCITED FOR HER TO
2388
01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:58,533
HAVE A HORSE TO JUST...
2389
01:10:58,533 --> 01:11:06,833
I DON'T KNOW, MAKE HER HAPPY.
2390
01:11:06,833 --> 01:11:08,467
I PLAY POKER BECAUSE I LOVE
2391
01:11:08,467 --> 01:11:09,867
POKER, BECAUSE I'M GOOD AT
2392
01:11:09,867 --> 01:11:10,667
POKER.
2393
01:11:10,667 --> 01:11:12,233
I WORKED MY WAY UP THROUGH THE
2394
01:11:12,233 --> 01:11:13,667
BOTTOM, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF
2395
01:11:13,667 --> 01:11:15,433
WHERE I HAVE ENDED UP.
2396
01:11:15,433 --> 01:11:16,767
>> WHEN I FOUND OUT SITTING
2397
01:11:16,767 --> 01:11:18,333
AROUND ON A COMPUTER PLAYING
2398
01:11:18,333 --> 01:11:19,867
CARDS FOR A LIVING WAS SOMETHING
2399
01:11:19,867 --> 01:11:21,433
YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO, I WAS
2400
01:11:21,433 --> 01:11:22,400
LIKE, "THAT'S IT!
2401
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,100
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH
2402
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,100
MY LIFE."
2403
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,533
>> POKER'S DEFINITELY GIVEN ME
2404
01:11:26,533 --> 01:11:28,133
THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE LIFE
2405
01:11:28,133 --> 01:11:29,467
OUTSIDE OF THE CONVENTIONAL
2406
01:11:29,467 --> 01:11:30,100
SYSTEM.
2407
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:31,567
IT'S GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
2408
01:11:31,567 --> 01:11:33,633
ALLOW MYSELF TO BE HAPPY.
2409
01:11:33,633 --> 01:11:35,167
>> POKER'S NOT JUST A GAME.
2410
01:11:35,167 --> 01:11:36,633
IT'S SO WRAPPED UP IN EVERY
2411
01:11:36,633 --> 01:11:38,400
OTHER ASPECT OF MY LIFE, THAT
2412
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,200
IT'S KIND OF BECOME PART OF MY
2413
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,033
IDENTITY.
2414
01:12:03,467 --> 01:12:05,300
>> IT'S A MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR
2415
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:06,733
INDUSTRY WITH MILLIONS OF
2416
01:12:06,733 --> 01:12:08,567
PARTICIPANTS, AND ON FRIDAY IT
2417
01:12:08,567 --> 01:12:10,167
WAS SHUT DOWN BY FEDERAL
2418
01:12:10,167 --> 01:12:17,767
AGENTS.
2419
01:12:17,767 --> 01:12:19,700
THE FBI SEIZED THE DOMAIN NAMES
2420
01:12:19,700 --> 01:12:21,667
OF PokerStars, FULL TILT POKER,
2421
01:12:21,667 --> 01:12:23,467
AND ABSOLUTE POKER, AND
2422
01:12:23,467 --> 01:12:25,100
PROSECUTORS CHARGED 11 PEOPLE
2423
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:26,567
WITH FRAUD, MONEY LAUNDERING,
2424
01:12:26,567 --> 01:12:31,333
AND ILLEGAL GAMBLING.
2425
01:12:31,333 --> 01:12:32,733
>> WE'D HEARD RUMORS OF THE SKY
2426
01:12:32,733 --> 01:12:34,367
IS FALLING PLENTY OF TIMES, BUT
2427
01:12:34,367 --> 01:12:35,800
THIS TIME IT REALLY FELT LIKE IT
2428
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,300
WAS.
2429
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:37,600
THE SITES WERE SHUT DOWN,
2430
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,333
PEOPLE'S FUNDS WERE FROZEN, THE
2431
01:12:39,333 --> 01:12:40,800
D.O.J. AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
2432
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,200
ISSUED STATEMENTS SAYING, YOU
2433
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,367
KNOW, BASICALLY, IT'S OVER,
2434
01:12:43,367 --> 01:12:44,533
GUYS.
2435
01:12:44,533 --> 01:12:46,400
>> NOW, WITH CHARGES OF BANK
2436
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,467
FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING, IT'S
2437
01:12:48,467 --> 01:12:50,300
CLEAR THAT THE FOCUS OF THE
2438
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:51,733
PROSECUTOR'S CASE IS ON
2439
01:12:51,733 --> 01:12:52,800
PAYMENTS.
2440
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,733
>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
2441
01:12:54,733 --> 01:12:57,200
ALLEGES THAT INDIVIDUALS LIED TO
2442
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,367
U.S. BANKS BY SETTING UP FALSE
2443
01:12:59,367 --> 01:13:01,467
BUSINESSES TO ACT AS CONDUITS
2444
01:13:01,467 --> 01:13:03,533
FOR INTERNET GAMING PAYMENTS
2445
01:13:03,533 --> 01:13:05,600
BEING DISGUISED AS SOMETHING
2446
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,733
ELSE, MISCODING TRANSACTIONS.
2447
01:13:07,733 --> 01:13:10,233
>> THE SITES TO GET MONEY FROM
2448
01:13:10,233 --> 01:13:12,600
THE PLAYERS IN THE UNITED STATES
2449
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,200
TO THEM AND VICE VERSA HAD TO BE
2450
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,700
LYING TO THE BANKS.
2451
01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:18,500
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THAT WAS
2452
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:19,267
GOING ON.
2453
01:13:19,267 --> 01:13:21,433
>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SEIZED
2454
01:13:21,433 --> 01:13:23,800
MONEY ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND
2455
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,400
THEY FROZE THE ACCOUNTS OF ALL
2456
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,233
THE PLAYERS.
2457
01:13:27,233 --> 01:13:28,667
>> FOR PLAYERS THAT RELIED ON
2458
01:13:28,667 --> 01:13:30,200
ONLINE POKER AS THEIR MAIN
2459
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,533
SOURCE OF INCOME, ALL OF A
2460
01:13:31,533 --> 01:13:33,133
SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THE TAP IS
2461
01:13:33,133 --> 01:13:33,500
GONE.
2462
01:13:33,500 --> 01:13:35,167
>> THERE'S ESSENTIALLY PANIC.
2463
01:13:35,167 --> 01:13:36,633
IT'S LIKE 1929, A RUN ON THE
2464
01:13:36,633 --> 01:13:37,200
BANK.
2465
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:38,633
PEOPLE ARE LIKE, "GET MY MONEY!
2466
01:13:38,633 --> 01:13:39,733
I NEED TO GET MY $500!
2467
01:13:39,733 --> 01:13:41,100
I NEED TO GET MY $5,000!
2468
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,533
I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY A RUN ON
2469
01:13:42,533 --> 01:13:43,867
THE BANK AND A PANIC, AND THE
2470
01:13:43,867 --> 01:13:45,467
ENTIRE POKER WORLD ESSENTIALLY
2471
01:13:45,467 --> 01:13:46,133
BLOWS UP.
2472
01:13:46,133 --> 01:13:48,167
>> THIS IS A DECLARATION OF WAR
2473
01:13:48,167 --> 01:13:49,867
BY THE UNITED STATES AGAINST
2474
01:13:49,867 --> 01:13:50,800
THESE COMPANIES.
2475
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,433
>> THE SITES WERE STAMPED WITH
2476
01:13:52,433 --> 01:13:53,833
THE OFFICIAL SEALS OF THE FBI
2477
01:13:53,833 --> 01:13:55,233
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
2478
01:13:55,233 --> 01:13:56,333
I MEAN, THAT'S INTIMIDATING
2479
01:13:56,333 --> 01:13:56,633
SHIT.
2480
01:13:56,633 --> 01:13:57,833
>> YOU KNOW, ONE DAY YOU'RE AN
2481
01:13:57,833 --> 01:13:59,167
ONLINE POKER PLAYER, AND THE
2482
01:13:59,167 --> 01:14:00,267
NEXT DAY YOU'RE AN OUTLAW.
2483
01:14:00,267 --> 01:14:01,500
>> PEOPLE WERE WONDERING IF THEY
2484
01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:02,767
WOULD EVER GET THEIR MONEY BACK,
2485
01:14:02,767 --> 01:14:04,167
AND NOBODY KNEW THESE ANSWERS.
2486
01:14:04,167 --> 01:14:05,200
>> THEIR MONEY WAS GONE.
2487
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,133
THEIR JOBS WERE GONE.
2488
01:14:06,133 --> 01:14:06,800
EVERYONE WAS LOST.
2489
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,333
>> THE ENTIRE POKER WORLD WILL
2490
01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:12,100
REMEMBER APRIL 15, 2011.
2491
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:13,700
>> THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
2492
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:15,167
WAS THE BIGGEST MARKET.
2493
01:14:15,167 --> 01:14:16,300
IT WAS THE MOST LUCRATIVE
2494
01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:17,633
MARKET, AND IT WAS THE ONE THAT
2495
01:14:17,633 --> 01:14:18,800
ALL OF THE SITES WANTED TO
2496
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,367
TARGET.
2497
01:14:19,367 --> 01:14:20,300
IT'S GONE NOW.
2498
01:14:20,300 --> 01:14:21,500
IT'S COMPLETELY GONE.
2499
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:23,333
AND ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY WERE
2500
01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:24,700
SPENDING, YOU KNOW, IN MY
2501
01:14:24,700 --> 01:14:26,333
ESTIMATION, $300 MILLION TO
2502
01:14:26,333 --> 01:14:28,133
$400 MILLION A YEAR IN ORDER TO
2503
01:14:28,133 --> 01:14:29,700
GET NEW AMERICAN CUSTOMERS, IS
2504
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:30,500
GONE.
2505
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:32,567
>> IT WAS A HUGE BLOW TO THE
2506
01:14:32,567 --> 01:14:34,800
ONLINE POKER COMMUNITY WHEN THEY
2507
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,600
REALIZED, OKAY, THIS IS
2508
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,767
LEGITIMATELY THE END OF ONLINE
2509
01:14:38,767 --> 01:14:40,200
POKER AS WE KNOW IT.
2510
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,833
BECAUSE THERE WERE NO SITES
2511
01:14:41,833 --> 01:14:43,200
READY TO STEP IN.
2512
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,333
THERE WAS NO NEXT STEP.
2513
01:14:45,333 --> 01:14:47,800
>> I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE NOT
2514
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,233
TO WAIT IT OUT IN ANY WAY.
2515
01:14:50,233 --> 01:14:52,600
I THINK ONLINE POKER IS GONE
2516
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,633
FROM AMERICA, PROBABLY FOREVER.
2517
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,633
>> [ SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY ]
2518
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:23,733
>> AT FIRST, I WAS JUST KIND OF
2519
01:15:23,733 --> 01:15:24,800
LIKE "OH, PEOPLE MIGHT BE
2520
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,233
OVERREACTING A LITTLE BIT," YOU
2521
01:15:26,233 --> 01:15:27,533
KNOW.
2522
01:15:27,533 --> 01:15:29,633
AND THEN AS I READ MORE AND AS
2523
01:15:29,633 --> 01:15:31,867
I REALIZED THAT THEY WERE, LIKE,
2524
01:15:31,867 --> 01:15:34,233
ARRESTING THESE PEOPLE AND SOME
2525
01:15:34,233 --> 01:15:36,233
VERY REPUTABLE PEOPLE IN THE
2526
01:15:36,233 --> 01:15:38,300
POKER WORLD WERE SAYING THAT,
2527
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:40,233
YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE THE
2528
01:15:40,233 --> 01:15:43,667
APOCALYPSE OF POKER, LIKE, THIS
2529
01:15:43,667 --> 01:15:44,700
IS IT.
2530
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:48,267
LIKE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I DON'T
2531
01:15:48,267 --> 01:15:51,367
HAVE A JOB, AND I HAVE, YOU
2532
01:15:51,367 --> 01:15:54,600
KNOW, A DECENT AMOUNT OF MY
2533
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,767
PERSONAL ASSETS ARE ONLINE RIGHT
2534
01:15:56,767 --> 01:15:58,800
NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
2535
01:15:58,800 --> 01:15:59,800
STATE IS WITH THAT.
2536
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,533
I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL GET THAT
2537
01:16:01,533 --> 01:16:03,333
BACK OR NOT.
2538
01:16:03,333 --> 01:16:04,867
SO I JUST KIND OF JUST PANICKED
2539
01:16:04,867 --> 01:16:06,667
AND I CALLED MY MOM AND WAS KIND
2540
01:16:06,667 --> 01:16:08,400
OF TRYING TO TELL HER WHAT WAS
2541
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,100
GOING ON.
2542
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:10,667
AND I JUST STARTED BAWLING, AND
2543
01:16:10,667 --> 01:16:12,433
THEN I KIND OF SAT HERE AND JUST
2544
01:16:12,433 --> 01:16:14,233
ALL DAY WAS KIND OF GLUED TO THE
2545
01:16:14,233 --> 01:16:17,100
COMPUTER, READING UPDATES, AND I
2546
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:18,400
CRIED LIKE A LITTLE GIRL.
2547
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,533
[ CHUCKLES ]
2548
01:16:20,533 --> 01:16:21,800
THE AVERAGE PUBLIC, ANYWAYS, I
2549
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,333
DON'T THINK PROBABLY UNDERSTANDS
2550
01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:24,467
WHAT THIS MEANS FOR, LIKE,
2551
01:16:24,467 --> 01:16:25,800
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF POKER
2552
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,700
PLAYERS, YOU KNOW?
2553
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:28,467
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON THE POKER
2554
01:16:28,467 --> 01:16:30,133
FORUMS AND STUFF WHO HAD LIKE
2555
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:31,600
95% OF THEIR NET WORTH WRAPPED
2556
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,267
UP IN THESE ONLINE SITES, AND
2557
01:16:33,267 --> 01:16:34,533
RIGHT NOW IT'S IN LIMBO.
2558
01:16:34,533 --> 01:16:36,100
LIKE, WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT
2559
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:37,533
WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR MONEY
2560
01:16:37,533 --> 01:16:38,833
BACK, AND WE'D LIKE TO BE
2561
01:16:38,833 --> 01:16:40,567
OPTIMISTIC, BUT REALLY WE DON'T
2562
01:16:40,567 --> 01:16:45,167
KNOW, YOU KNOW.
2563
01:16:45,167 --> 01:16:46,667
I THINK, LIKE, THE HARDEST PART
2564
01:16:46,667 --> 01:16:48,367
OF THIS IS THAT, LIKE, MY GOALS
2565
01:16:48,367 --> 01:16:48,867
ARE GONE.
2566
01:16:48,867 --> 01:16:50,400
LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA GET THE
2567
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,100
CHANCE TO EVEN, LIKE -- I DON'T
2568
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:53,500
GET THE CHANCE TO ACCOMPLISH
2569
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:55,667
MY GOALS, YOU KNOW?
2570
01:16:55,667 --> 01:16:58,100
BECAUSE A LOT OF MY LIFE GOALS
2571
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:00,367
WERE JUST TIED UP IN POKER, AND
2572
01:17:00,367 --> 01:17:02,667
POKER IS WHAT I WAS BEST AT,
2573
01:17:02,667 --> 01:17:04,267
YOU KNOW?
2574
01:17:04,267 --> 01:17:05,867
IT'S LIKE, I DERIVE A LOT OF MY,
2575
01:17:05,867 --> 01:17:13,100
LIKE, PRIDE AND A LOT OF MY...
2576
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:14,467
I DON'T KNOW.
2577
01:17:14,467 --> 01:17:16,667
I GUESS SOME, LIKE, CONFIDENCE
2578
01:17:16,667 --> 01:17:17,767
JUST FROM POKER 'CAUSE I WAS
2579
01:17:17,767 --> 01:17:20,333
GOOD AT SOMETHING.
2580
01:17:20,333 --> 01:17:22,467
IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO THINK
2581
01:17:22,467 --> 01:17:24,600
THAT, LIKE, I'M NOT EVEN GOING
2582
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:31,333
TO GET THE CHANCE, YOU KNOW?
2583
01:17:31,333 --> 01:17:33,300
>> * YOU ARE MY SUNSHINE
2584
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:35,400
* MY ONLY SUNSHINE
2585
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,533
* YOU MAKE ME HAPPY
2586
01:17:37,533 --> 01:17:39,100
* WHEN SKIES ARE GRAY
2587
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:41,400
* YOU'LL NEVER KNOW, MOMMY
2588
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,600
* HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU
2589
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,333
* PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY SUNSHINE
2590
01:17:46,333 --> 01:17:48,167
AWAY *
2591
01:18:15,533 --> 01:18:17,567
>> I WOULD DESCRIBE THE MOOD IN
2592
01:18:17,567 --> 01:18:19,533
THE POKER COMMUNITY POST BLACK
2593
01:18:19,533 --> 01:18:21,333
FRIDAY AS A COMBINATION OF
2594
01:18:21,333 --> 01:18:22,600
PANIC, OUTRAGE, AND
2595
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,267
BEFUDDLEMENT.
2596
01:18:24,267 --> 01:18:25,700
YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO
2597
01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:27,267
PROBABLY ANTICIPATED THAT THEY
2598
01:18:27,267 --> 01:18:28,700
WERE GOING TO HAVE AN INCOME FOR
2599
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:29,467
A LONG TIME.
2600
01:18:29,467 --> 01:18:30,800
NOT ONLY DID THEY HAVE THEIR
2601
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,400
FUNDS FROZEN, BUT ANYTHING THEY
2602
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,833
WERE PLANNING ON DOING WITH LIKE
2603
01:18:33,833 --> 01:18:35,133
FUTURE MONEY YET TO BE
2604
01:18:35,133 --> 01:18:36,400
GENERATED, THAT'S ALL GONE.
2605
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,100
THEN YOU'VE GOT THE PEOPLE WHO
2606
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:39,533
HAD JOBS WITHIN THE INDUSTRY
2607
01:18:39,533 --> 01:18:41,300
THAT WERE PRINCIPALLY FUNDED BY
2608
01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:42,733
THE SITES -- THEY'RE FUCKED.
2609
01:18:42,733 --> 01:18:44,500
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE IN MY
2610
01:18:44,500 --> 01:18:46,600
POSITION, WHO THOUGHT THEY HAD
2611
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,600
MONEY, BUT NOW AREN'T REALLY
2612
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,567
SURE IF THEY HAVE MONEY AND
2613
01:18:50,567 --> 01:18:52,700
MIGHT GET TAXED ON MONEY THAT'S
2614
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:54,867
ESSENTIALLY BEEN MADE IMAGINARY
2615
01:18:54,867 --> 01:18:57,267
TO THEM, BUT IS NOT IMAGINARY TO
2616
01:18:57,267 --> 01:18:58,433
THE IRS.
2617
01:18:58,433 --> 01:18:59,433
AND THAT'S REALLY FUCKED UP.
2618
01:18:59,433 --> 01:19:00,533
TO THINK THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT'S
2619
01:19:00,533 --> 01:19:01,633
GONNA BOTH TAKE AWAY YOUR SOURCE
2620
01:19:01,633 --> 01:19:03,567
OF INCOME, BUT THEN TAX YOU ON
2621
01:19:03,567 --> 01:19:05,567
THE INCOME THAT YOU SORT OF KIND
2622
01:19:05,567 --> 01:19:06,833
OF MADE BY MEANS THEY
2623
01:19:06,833 --> 01:19:10,500
ESSENTIALLY DEEMED ILLEGAL.
2624
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:13,233
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
2625
01:19:13,233 --> 01:19:15,333
IF GOING BACK TO AUSTRALIA WAS
2626
01:19:15,333 --> 01:19:17,400
TRULY A VIABLE POSSIBILITY FOR
2627
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,333
ME, THEN OF COURSE I WOULD
2628
01:19:18,333 --> 01:19:19,367
CONSIDER IT, BUT RIGHT NOW I'VE
2629
01:19:19,367 --> 01:19:20,367
GOT A VERY GOOD THING GOING ON
2630
01:19:20,367 --> 01:19:21,300
WITH THE WORLD POKER TOUR.
2631
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:22,833
I LOVE MY JOB, BUT IF THAT
2632
01:19:22,833 --> 01:19:24,700
DIDN'T EXIST, I PROBABLY WOULD
2633
01:19:24,700 --> 01:19:26,600
BE LOOKING FOR SOME WAY OUT OF
2634
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,167
THIS COUNTRY, BE IT EUROPE,
2635
01:19:30,167 --> 01:19:31,600
AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND,
2636
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,400
SOMETHING TO GET OUT FROM UNDER
2637
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,533
THIS BULLSHIT.
2638
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:54,800
[ BEEPING ]
2639
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,400
>> AS A CANADIAN LIVING IN
2640
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,100
MONTRĂ©AL, BLACK FRIDAY DIDN'T
2641
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:00,333
ORIGINALLY HAVE A LARGE IMPACT
2642
01:20:00,333 --> 01:20:02,167
ON MY DAY TO DAY LIFE.
2643
01:20:02,167 --> 01:20:03,167
YOU KNOW I WOKE UP IN THE
2644
01:20:03,167 --> 01:20:04,233
MORNING AND PLAYED THE SAME
2645
01:20:04,233 --> 01:20:05,300
GAMES I WAS ALWAYS PLAYING.
2646
01:20:05,300 --> 01:20:06,500
IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY NOT TO SEE
2647
01:20:06,500 --> 01:20:07,633
SOME OF THE FACES I HAD ALWAYS
2648
01:20:07,633 --> 01:20:08,267
SEEN.
2649
01:20:08,267 --> 01:20:10,167
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE GAMES WERE
2650
01:20:10,167 --> 01:20:11,600
ACTUALLY -- I FOUND THEM A LOT
2651
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,233
MORE FUN AT FIRST, 'CAUSE THEY
2652
01:20:13,233 --> 01:20:14,333
WERE ALL EUROPEAN PLAYERS I WAS
2653
01:20:14,333 --> 01:20:15,433
PLAYING WITH, AND THERE TENDS TO
2654
01:20:15,433 --> 01:20:17,400
BE A KIND OF...SUBTLE DIFFERENCE
2655
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,167
IN HOW PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME
2656
01:20:19,167 --> 01:20:23,567
ACROSS THE ATLANTIC.
2657
01:20:23,567 --> 01:20:25,467
IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME
2658
01:20:25,467 --> 01:20:27,400
THAT THE COUNTRY THAT HAS THE
2659
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,667
HIT SONG "YOU GOT TO KNOW WHEN
2660
01:20:28,667 --> 01:20:30,133
TO HOLD 'EM, KNOW WHEN TO FOLD
2661
01:20:30,133 --> 01:20:31,767
'EM" WOULD BAN ONLINE POKER.
2662
01:20:31,767 --> 01:20:33,633
LIKE, IT'S JUST A VERY AMERICAN
2663
01:20:33,633 --> 01:20:35,567
GAME, AND IT TIES IN POSITIVELY,
2664
01:20:35,567 --> 01:20:36,767
I THINK, WITH A LOT OF THE
2665
01:20:36,767 --> 01:20:37,800
THINGS THAT AMERICANS
2666
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,300
CONSIDER -- LIKE A LOT OF THE
2667
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:40,700
IDEOLOGY THAT AMERICANS CONSIDER
2668
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:42,200
IMPORTANT, LIKE THE IDEA THAT
2669
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,467
ANYONE HAS A SHOT GIVEN THAT
2670
01:20:43,467 --> 01:20:44,867
THEY WORK HARD AND THEY HAVE THE
2671
01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:46,267
APTITUDE TO GET WHERE THEY WANT
2672
01:20:46,267 --> 01:20:48,333
TO GO, THAT LIFE IS A
2673
01:20:48,333 --> 01:20:50,367
MERITOCRACY.
2674
01:20:50,367 --> 01:20:52,433
POKER IS KIND OF LIKE A GREAT
2675
01:20:52,433 --> 01:20:54,233
FORM WHERE THOSE KIND OF
2676
01:20:54,233 --> 01:20:58,333
IDEOLOGIES ARE EXPRESSED.
2677
01:20:58,333 --> 01:20:59,600
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD
2678
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:00,833
BASICALLY WRITTEN OFF THEIR
2679
01:21:00,833 --> 01:21:01,633
MONEY.
2680
01:21:01,633 --> 01:21:04,200
THERE'S JUST THIS REAL KIND OF
2681
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,533
MISANTHROPIC KIND OF POKER
2682
01:21:06,533 --> 01:21:08,300
MIND-SET [ CHUCKLES ] TOWARDS IT
2683
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:09,800
WHERE PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T THINK
2684
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,300
THEY WERE GETTING PAID BACK, AND
2685
01:21:11,300 --> 01:21:12,500
THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK OF THE
2686
01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:15,400
SKY IS FALLING AND SUCH.
2687
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,867
>> THE BIG NEWS OF THE WEEK WE
2688
01:21:16,867 --> 01:21:18,333
GOT TO GET TO RIGHT AWAY.
2689
01:21:18,333 --> 01:21:20,367
PokerStars AND FULL TILT POKER
2690
01:21:20,367 --> 01:21:22,333
BOTH SIGNED DEALS, ADAM, WITH
2691
01:21:22,333 --> 01:21:24,133
THE D.O.J. FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE
2692
01:21:24,133 --> 01:21:25,767
OF ALLOWING U.S. PLAYERS TO CASH
2693
01:21:25,767 --> 01:21:27,300
OUT THEIR BALANCES.
2694
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:28,600
>> I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT
2695
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,133
PokerStars WILL BE PROCESSING
2696
01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:31,600
CASH-OUTS VERY, VERY SOON.
2697
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,200
THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS
2698
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,433
TUESDAY.
2699
01:21:34,433 --> 01:21:35,467
>> A COUPLE WEEKS AFTER
2700
01:21:35,467 --> 01:21:36,533
BLACK FRIDAY, PokerStars
2701
01:21:36,533 --> 01:21:37,633
ACTUALLY PAID BACK ALL THE
2702
01:21:37,633 --> 01:21:39,200
PLAYERS, SO I THINK PEOPLE WERE
2703
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,600
PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT EVEN IF
2704
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,600
THERE WAS SOME ANXIETY ABOUT,
2705
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,433
YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY AS A
2706
01:21:44,433 --> 01:21:46,033
WHOLE.
2707
01:21:51,733 --> 01:21:53,333
THERE'S DEFINITELY A, SORT OF,
2708
01:21:53,333 --> 01:21:54,800
TREND OF ANXIETY RUNNING THROUGH
2709
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,333
THE POKER COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW
2710
01:21:56,333 --> 01:21:57,800
ABOUT WHAT FULL TILT IS PLANNING
2711
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:58,733
TO DO.
2712
01:21:58,733 --> 01:21:59,767
I MEAN, THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED
2713
01:21:59,767 --> 01:22:00,467
ANY STATEMENTS.
2714
01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:01,600
THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED ANY PLAYER
2715
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:02,367
FUNDS.
2716
01:22:02,367 --> 01:22:04,233
>> WHERE IS THE MONEY FULL TILT?
2717
01:22:04,233 --> 01:22:04,733
WHERE IS IT?
2718
01:22:04,733 --> 01:22:06,867
>> I FULLY EXPECTED FULL TILT TO
2719
01:22:06,867 --> 01:22:08,500
HAVE PAID OUT BY NOW.
2720
01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:09,833
>> AS MUCH AS IT'S SHOCKING AT
2721
01:22:09,833 --> 01:22:11,300
THIS POINT THAT THEY HAVEN'T
2722
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:12,700
PAID OUT, CAN YOU IMAGINE A
2723
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:14,100
SCENARIO WHERE THEY DON'T?
2724
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:15,333
>> AT THIS POINT, I WOULD SAY
2725
01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:16,667
THE CHANCES OF GETTING PAID BACK
2726
01:22:16,667 --> 01:22:19,333
SEEM PRETTY HIGH JUST BECAUSE,
2727
01:22:19,333 --> 01:22:21,267
YOU KNOW, FULL TILT'S REVENUES
2728
01:22:21,267 --> 01:22:23,400
ARE KIND OF NOT HIDDEN.
2729
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,133
I HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY ON
2730
01:22:25,133 --> 01:22:26,633
THERE THAT I WOULD KIND OF LIKE
2731
01:22:26,633 --> 01:22:28,700
TO GET BACK.
2732
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,333
>> AFTER BLACK FRIDAY HAPPENED,
2733
01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:37,667
I FELT LIKE PEOPLE WEREN'T
2734
01:22:37,667 --> 01:22:39,100
ACTUALLY GETTING THE STORY, AND
2735
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:40,300
I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF
2736
01:22:40,300 --> 01:22:41,400
IMPORTANT STUFF THAT WAS
2737
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:41,867
HAPPENING.
2738
01:22:41,867 --> 01:22:43,200
YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
2739
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,300
OF DOLLARS WERE AT STAKE, AND
2740
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:45,700
PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS WERE AT
2741
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:47,433
STAKE, AND NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS
2742
01:22:47,433 --> 01:22:48,567
GOING ON.
2743
01:22:48,567 --> 01:22:49,567
SO I STARTED AN INDEPENDENT
2744
01:22:49,567 --> 01:22:50,533
POKER NEWS SITE TO DO THAT
2745
01:22:50,533 --> 01:22:52,367
RIGHT, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A
2746
01:22:52,367 --> 01:22:53,867
REAL TRIP, [chuckling] A LOT
2747
01:22:53,867 --> 01:22:56,700
DIFFERENT THAN I EXPECTED.
2748
01:22:57,133 --> 01:22:59,133
REALLY ALL ANYONE CARED ABOUT
2749
01:22:59,133 --> 01:23:01,167
FOR THE NINE OR SO MONTHS THAT
2750
01:23:01,167 --> 01:23:02,633
SUBJECT: POKER EXISTED WAS
2751
01:23:02,633 --> 01:23:04,533
FULL TILT, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL
2752
01:23:04,533 --> 01:23:05,800
WE CARED ABOUT, TOO.
2753
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,800
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS JUST
2754
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,133
TANGENTIAL.
2755
01:23:08,133 --> 01:23:09,267
I JOKED ABOUT BEING A SPY
2756
01:23:09,267 --> 01:23:09,767
CONSTANTLY.
2757
01:23:09,767 --> 01:23:10,500
[ CHUCKLES ]
2758
01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:12,833
LIKE, WE WERE TALKING TO A LOT
2759
01:23:12,833 --> 01:23:15,267
OF ANONYMOUS SOURCES, AND WE
2760
01:23:15,267 --> 01:23:16,433
WERE LOOKING THROUGH CORPORATE
2761
01:23:16,433 --> 01:23:17,667
DOCUMENTS WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO
2762
01:23:17,667 --> 01:23:18,833
HAVE, AND WE WERE GETTING ALL
2763
01:23:18,833 --> 01:23:19,867
THIS INSIDER INFORMATION.
2764
01:23:19,867 --> 01:23:20,800
WE WERE BREAKING ALL THESE
2765
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,200
STORIES.
2766
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,667
IT JUST GOT REALLY, REALLY
2767
01:23:23,667 --> 01:23:25,467
INTENSE, BECAUSE FULL TILT HAD
2768
01:23:25,467 --> 01:23:27,367
$300 MILLION OF PLAYERS' MONEY
2769
01:23:27,367 --> 01:23:28,100
LOCKED UP.
2770
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:30,733
AND THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL,
2771
01:23:30,733 --> 01:23:32,433
AND IT WAS SORT OF PERPETUALLY
2772
01:23:32,433 --> 01:23:33,833
SINKING IN HOW BIG OF A DEAL
2773
01:23:33,833 --> 01:23:35,567
THAT WAS.
2774
01:23:48,467 --> 01:23:51,567
FULL TILT LOST MONEY IN A LOT OF
2775
01:23:51,567 --> 01:23:52,767
DUMB WAYS.
2776
01:23:52,767 --> 01:23:54,733
THERE WAS THE $128 MILLION
2777
01:23:54,733 --> 01:23:56,267
SHORTFALL, WHICH WAS QUITE
2778
01:23:56,267 --> 01:23:56,867
REMARKABLE.
2779
01:23:56,867 --> 01:23:58,400
AND THE D.O.J. DID, IN FACT,
2780
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,333
SEIZE ABOUT $159 MILLION FROM
2781
01:24:01,333 --> 01:24:02,667
THE COMPANY.
2782
01:24:02,667 --> 01:24:05,733
BUT BY FAR, THE LARGEST WAY THAT
2783
01:24:05,733 --> 01:24:07,433
MONEY FLOWED OUT OF FULL TILT
2784
01:24:07,433 --> 01:24:09,600
WAS BY DISTRIBUTIONS.
2785
01:24:15,133 --> 01:24:16,833
THEY GAVE THEMSELVES MASSIVE
2786
01:24:16,833 --> 01:24:18,100
DISTRIBUTIONS.
2787
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:19,700
THEY PAID THEMSELVES $10 MILLION
2788
01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:21,367
A MONTH.
2789
01:24:25,167 --> 01:24:26,433
MAYBE AT THE PEAK OF THEIR
2790
01:24:26,433 --> 01:24:27,633
PROFITABILITY, WHICH WAS
2791
01:24:27,633 --> 01:24:29,167
PROBABLY ALL THE WAY BACK IN
2792
01:24:29,167 --> 01:24:31,100
2007, THEY WERE MAKING THAT
2793
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:31,633
MUCH.
2794
01:24:31,633 --> 01:24:33,267
BUT THEY WERE A LOSING COMPANY
2795
01:24:33,267 --> 01:24:35,200
IN 2010, EARLY 2011, AND THEY
2796
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,100
WERE STILL PAYING THEMSELVES
2797
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:39,333
$10 MILLION A MONTH.
2798
01:24:39,333 --> 01:24:41,267
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ALSO
2799
01:24:41,267 --> 01:24:44,600
HIRED A HUGE STABLE OF SPONSORED
2800
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,833
PLAYERS.
2801
01:24:45,833 --> 01:24:47,700
A LOT OF THEM WERE PAID $100,000
2802
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:49,433
A YEAR, AND SOME OF THEM WERE
2803
01:24:49,433 --> 01:24:53,100
PAID $500,000, $1 MILLION A YEAR
2804
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:54,267
JUST TO WEAR THIS LITTLE PIECE
2805
01:24:54,267 --> 01:24:55,433
OF FELT.
2806
01:24:55,433 --> 01:24:56,800
THEY PAID THEIR GAMBLING
2807
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,467
PARTNERS AND THEIR FRIENDS
2808
01:24:58,467 --> 01:25:00,100
ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY, AND
2809
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:01,600
WHEN PLAYERS ARE SENDING E-MAILS
2810
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,267
INTO SUPPORT AND SAYING, "HEY,
2811
01:25:03,267 --> 01:25:04,733
HOW DO YOU KEEP PLAYER FUNDS?"
2812
01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:06,367
THEY ALWAYS GOT THE SAME ANSWER,
2813
01:25:06,367 --> 01:25:07,600
"PLAYER FUNDS ARE SAFE AND
2814
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:08,200
SECURE.
2815
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,267
WE KEEP THEM SEGREGATED," AND
2816
01:25:10,267 --> 01:25:13,467
THAT WAS JUST A BLATANT LIE.
2817
01:25:13,467 --> 01:25:15,133
AT SOME POINT, THEY STOPPED
2818
01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:16,733
SPLITTING UP PLAYER FUNDS FROM
2819
01:25:16,733 --> 01:25:18,367
THEIR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
2820
01:25:18,367 --> 01:25:19,833
THEY STARTED TO SIMPLY SPEND
2821
01:25:19,833 --> 01:25:21,267
MONEY, HAVE THEIR MARKETING
2822
01:25:21,267 --> 01:25:22,600
BUDGET, PAY THEIR OWN SALARIES,
2823
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,267
PAY THEIR OWN DIVIDENDS FROM
2824
01:25:25,267 --> 01:25:27,200
PLAYERS' FUNDS.
2825
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,833
HOWARD LEDERER, RAY BITAR --
2826
01:25:28,833 --> 01:25:30,733
THOSE GUYS SAID SPECIFICALLY,
2827
01:25:30,733 --> 01:25:32,567
"TELL PLAYERS THAT FUNDS ARE
2828
01:25:32,567 --> 01:25:34,233
SEGREGATED."
2829
01:25:34,233 --> 01:25:36,833
BUT THE FUNDS WERE NOT.
2830
01:25:36,833 --> 01:25:38,233
THE POOL THAT THEY WERE MEANT TO
2831
01:25:38,233 --> 01:25:39,300
BE HOLDING FOR PLAYERS, THAT
2832
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:40,867
THEY SAID THEY WERE HOLDING FOR
2833
01:25:40,867 --> 01:25:46,867
PLAYERS -- THAT MONEY IS GONE.
2834
01:25:46,867 --> 01:25:47,867
>> AS AN OWNER OF
2835
01:25:47,867 --> 01:25:53,200
FULL TILT POKER, I TOOK AND I
2836
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,533
TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR
2837
01:25:54,533 --> 01:25:56,233
WHAT HAPPENED.
2838
01:25:56,233 --> 01:25:58,767
AND WHAT HAPPENED WASN'T RIGHT,
2839
01:25:58,767 --> 01:26:01,733
AND IT CAUSED A LOT OF PAIN, A
2840
01:26:01,733 --> 01:26:09,100
LOT OF SUFFERING, AND, IN SOME
2841
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:11,700
CASES, JUST INCONVENIENCE FOR
2842
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:14,633
THREE MILLION CUSTOMERS.
2843
01:26:14,633 --> 01:26:18,300
AND THAT -- THAT WASN'T RIGHT.
2844
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:22,867
FOR THAT I AM TRULY SORRY.
2845
01:26:22,867 --> 01:26:25,100
>> A BIG PART OF WHAT MADE POKER
2846
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:27,100
REALLY APPEALING BACK IN, LIKE,
2847
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:28,767
2003, WHEN THIS BIG BOOM
2848
01:26:28,767 --> 01:26:33,400
STARTED, WERE THESE CELEBRITIES.
2849
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,433
THESE CELEBRITIES HAD THIS
2850
01:26:35,433 --> 01:26:37,733
AWESOME APPEAL OF BEING SORT OF
2851
01:26:37,733 --> 01:26:39,333
OLD-SCHOOL GAMBLERS AND SORT OF
2852
01:26:39,333 --> 01:26:40,667
HAVING ALL THE COLOR AND SORT
2853
01:26:40,667 --> 01:26:42,267
OF, ALMOST, COWBOY-ISHNESS THAT
2854
01:26:42,267 --> 01:26:43,533
GOES WITH THAT.
2855
01:26:43,533 --> 01:26:45,300
ALSO, THE APPEAL OF BEING SORT
2856
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:46,867
OF REMARKABLY HONORABLE -- THE
2857
01:26:46,867 --> 01:26:50,567
SORT OF HONORABLE GAMBLER, EVEN
2858
01:26:50,567 --> 01:26:51,600
THOUGH IT'S SORT OF OBVIOUS IN
2859
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,000
HINDSIGHT.
2860
01:26:53,233 --> 01:26:54,733
LIKE, HERE ARE THESE GUYS WHO
2861
01:26:54,733 --> 01:26:56,500
HAD THESE PASTS THAT WERE SORT
2862
01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:57,733
OF VERY SHADY, COMING IN AND
2863
01:26:57,733 --> 01:26:59,267
HOLDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
2864
01:26:59,267 --> 01:27:00,767
DOLLARS FOR US.
2865
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,600
FROM AN OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE,
2866
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,133
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY
2867
01:27:04,133 --> 01:27:05,500
SKETCHY SITUATION, BUT WHEN
2868
01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:07,400
YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN IT -- WHEN WE
2869
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,133
WERE ACTUALLY IN IT, WE WERE
2870
01:27:09,133 --> 01:27:10,533
REALLY FOOLED.
2871
01:27:48,733 --> 01:27:50,400
>> AS A RESULT OF BLACK FRIDAY,
2872
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,133
ALL OF THE BOYS THAT WERE LIVING
2873
01:27:52,133 --> 01:27:53,433
HERE REALIZED THAT WITHOUT
2874
01:27:53,433 --> 01:27:55,100
ONLINE POKER AVAILABLE TO THEM,
2875
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,700
THERE WASN'T MUCH POINT IN BEING
2876
01:27:56,700 --> 01:27:58,267
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
2877
01:27:58,267 --> 01:27:59,800
SO THEY ALL MOVED ABROAD, MOSTLY
2878
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,833
TO CANADA.
2879
01:28:00,833 --> 01:28:04,333
THAT'S WHERE CHEWY, AARON, AND
2880
01:28:04,333 --> 01:28:06,167
DAN ENDED UP -- ALL IN TORONTO.
2881
01:28:06,167 --> 01:28:07,767
AND AS A RESULT, THE HOUSE HAS
2882
01:28:07,767 --> 01:28:10,233
BEEN EMPTY SINCE.
2883
01:28:10,233 --> 01:28:11,733
IT'S ODD, BECAUSE IT IS SO
2884
01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:13,667
LARGE, AND I DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE
2885
01:28:13,667 --> 01:28:15,467
IN THE PHYSICAL HOUSE ITSELF.
2886
01:28:15,467 --> 01:28:16,467
I LIVE OUT THE BACK.
2887
01:28:16,467 --> 01:28:18,733
SO EVERYDAY, I WALK INTO THIS
2888
01:28:18,733 --> 01:28:21,333
JUST EMPTY, SILENT HOUSE THAT'S
2889
01:28:21,333 --> 01:28:24,367
NOT EVEN QUITE MINE.
2890
01:28:24,367 --> 01:28:26,100
MY MONEY ON FULL TILT IS
2891
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:28,233
ESSENTIALLY IN A STATE OF LIMBO.
2892
01:28:28,233 --> 01:28:29,700
I TRY AND STAY WELL-READ ON THE
2893
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:31,167
ISSUE TO SEE WHAT'S GONNA
2894
01:28:31,167 --> 01:28:32,267
HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH
2895
01:28:32,267 --> 01:28:32,733
HEARSAY.
2896
01:28:32,733 --> 01:28:34,367
IT STILL, NOW, IS JUST SO HARD
2897
01:28:34,367 --> 01:28:35,800
TO BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING THAT
2898
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,333
HAD BEEN AROUND FOR ALMOST A
2899
01:28:37,333 --> 01:28:38,600
DECADE AND IT HAD, TO OUR
2900
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,233
KNOWLEDGE, NO FINANCIAL TROUBLE
2901
01:28:40,233 --> 01:28:43,267
SUDDENLY IMPLODED OVERNIGHT.
2902
01:28:43,267 --> 01:28:44,433
I'VE HEARD MORE STORIES THAN I
2903
01:28:44,433 --> 01:28:45,667
CAN COUNT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
2904
01:28:45,667 --> 01:28:46,700
WHAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE
2905
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:48,267
LIFE-CHANGING MONEY LOCKED UP IN
2906
01:28:48,267 --> 01:28:49,300
THEIR FULL TILT ACCOUNT.
2907
01:28:49,300 --> 01:28:50,500
A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST KEPT MOST
2908
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:52,300
OF WHAT THEY HAD ON WHATEVER
2909
01:28:52,300 --> 01:28:54,400
SITE THEY PLAYED THE MOST AT.
2910
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,200
SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH FIVE OR
2911
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,633
SIX FIGURES THAT WOULD, YOU
2912
01:28:57,633 --> 01:28:59,667
KNOW, COMPLETELY MAKE OR BREAK
2913
01:28:59,667 --> 01:29:01,133
THEIR LIFE, AND THEN THERE ARE
2914
01:29:01,133 --> 01:29:02,433
SOME GUYS WHO WERE HIGH-STAKES
2915
01:29:02,433 --> 01:29:03,767
CASH PLAYERS OR HAD A HUGE
2916
01:29:03,767 --> 01:29:05,433
TOURNAMENT SCORE WHO HAD SEVEN
2917
01:29:05,433 --> 01:29:06,600
FIGURES LOCKED UP ON THERE.
2918
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,733
SO, IT'S BEEN REALLY BAD FOR
2919
01:29:08,733 --> 01:29:12,633
SOME PEOPLE.
2920
01:29:12,633 --> 01:29:14,167
SO DURING THE PERIOD IN WHICH
2921
01:29:14,167 --> 01:29:15,567
THE HOUSE HAS BEEN EMPTY, I'VE
2922
01:29:15,567 --> 01:29:16,867
MOSTLY BEEN OCCUPYING MYSELF
2923
01:29:16,867 --> 01:29:18,233
READING.
2924
01:29:18,233 --> 01:29:19,767
I DO THAT IN HERE.
2925
01:29:19,767 --> 01:29:21,200
FOR A LONG TIME, I HAD TWO
2926
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,567
PILES -- THE MUST-READ PILE AND
2927
01:29:22,567 --> 01:29:23,767
THE HAVE-READ PILE.
2928
01:29:23,767 --> 01:29:25,467
USUALLY I JUST GRAB SOMETHING
2929
01:29:25,467 --> 01:29:27,267
OFF THE MUST-READ PILE, POST UP
2930
01:29:27,267 --> 01:29:29,133
ON MY COUCH, AND, WITH A
2931
01:29:29,133 --> 01:29:30,433
HIGHLIGHTER, SIT THERE FOR HOURS
2932
01:29:30,433 --> 01:29:31,833
ON END.
2933
01:29:31,833 --> 01:29:33,200
AFTER BLACK FRIDAY, I REALIZED I
2934
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,333
WAS GOING TO HAVE TO STAY IN THE
2935
01:29:34,333 --> 01:29:35,467
UNITED STATES BECAUSE OF MY JOB
2936
01:29:35,467 --> 01:29:37,567
WITH THE WPT, SO I STARTED
2937
01:29:37,567 --> 01:29:39,233
WORKING ON MY FIRST ORIGINAL
2938
01:29:39,233 --> 01:29:41,833
BOOK.
2939
01:29:41,833 --> 01:29:43,167
I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CALL THIS
2940
01:29:43,167 --> 01:29:45,233
BOOK A MEMOIR, BUT IT IS A
2941
01:29:45,233 --> 01:29:47,500
PRETTY CLEAR LOOK OF WHAT IT'S
2942
01:29:47,500 --> 01:29:49,333
LIKE TO PLAY ONLINE POKER OR
2943
01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:51,200
POKER FOR A LIVING AS A YOUNG
2944
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:51,800
ADULT.
2945
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,600
AND A LOT OF THE THINGS I WAS
2946
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,633
ABLE TO DO OVER THE COURSE OF MY
2947
01:29:55,633 --> 01:29:57,700
LIFE AND THEN WRITE UPON IN THIS
2948
01:29:57,700 --> 01:29:59,700
BOOK ARE A RESULT OF THE FREEDOM
2949
01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:01,700
AND RESOURCES THAT PLAYING POKER
2950
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:03,700
FOR A LIVING ALLOWED ME.
2951
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:06,200
IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE, WHAT CAN
2952
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:06,533
YOU SAY?
2953
01:30:06,533 --> 01:30:07,200
[ CHUCKLES ]
2954
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,267
LIKE, IT WAS AN AWFUL LOT OF
2955
01:30:08,267 --> 01:30:09,433
FUN, AND I STILL THINK THERE IS
2956
01:30:09,433 --> 01:30:10,800
SOME MONEY TO BE MADE IN POKER,
2957
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,767
BUT THE POKER OF MY MEMORIES AND
2958
01:30:14,767 --> 01:30:16,767
YOUNG ADULTHOOD, BEST I CAN
2959
01:30:16,767 --> 01:30:19,533
TELL, IS OVER.
2960
01:30:29,567 --> 01:30:31,500
>> HERE WE GO GUYS.
2961
01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:32,733
LET ME GRAB YOU SOME MORE ICED
2962
01:30:32,733 --> 01:30:33,400
TEA HERE.
2963
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:34,767
ANYTHING ELSE I CAN GET FOR YOU
2964
01:30:34,767 --> 01:30:36,300
RIGHT AWAY?
2965
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:40,300
OKAY, ENJOY.
2966
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:41,767
SINCE BLACK FRIDAY, I STARTED
2967
01:30:41,767 --> 01:30:43,500
WORKING AT ROUNDERS, WHICH IS,
2968
01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:46,300
LIKE, A BAR-AND-GRILL
2969
01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:48,367
RESTAURANT.
2970
01:30:48,367 --> 01:30:49,567
I'VE BEEN WORKING THERE FOR A
2971
01:30:49,567 --> 01:30:50,433
COUPLE MONTHS NOW.
2972
01:30:50,433 --> 01:30:51,533
CAN I GET YOU SOMETHING TO
2973
01:30:51,533 --> 01:30:51,833
DRINK?
2974
01:30:51,833 --> 01:30:54,267
>> I WILL HAVE WATER.
2975
01:30:54,267 --> 01:30:55,533
>> FULL TILT POKER HASN'T
2976
01:30:55,533 --> 01:30:56,867
RELEASED ANY MONEY TO U.S.
2977
01:30:56,867 --> 01:30:59,167
PLAYERS, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I
2978
01:30:59,167 --> 01:31:02,233
HAD ABOUT 95% OF MY FUNDS IN
2979
01:31:02,233 --> 01:31:05,367
FULL TILT.
2980
01:31:05,367 --> 01:31:06,500
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE IT IN
2981
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:07,600
ME TO START FROM GROUND ZERO
2982
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,667
AGAIN.
2983
01:31:08,667 --> 01:31:10,700
IT'S JUST SUCH A GRIND, AND IT'S
2984
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:12,667
SO HARD, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW
2985
01:31:12,667 --> 01:31:13,800
THAT I HAVE IT IN ME TO DO THAT
2986
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,700
ANYMORE.
2987
01:31:15,700 --> 01:31:17,533
FOR SO LONG, A LOT OF OUR LIFE
2988
01:31:17,533 --> 01:31:19,433
PLANS AND GOALS WERE WRAPPED UP
2989
01:31:19,433 --> 01:31:20,600
IN THAT, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO
2990
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,267
JUST, IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE,
2991
01:31:23,267 --> 01:31:24,467
CHANGE EVERYTHING AND ALTER YOUR
2992
01:31:24,467 --> 01:31:26,300
PATH.
2993
01:31:26,300 --> 01:31:28,433
>> NOW THAT IT'S SETTLED IN A
2994
01:31:28,433 --> 01:31:30,700
LITTLE BIT SINCE BLACK FRIDAY, I
2995
01:31:30,700 --> 01:31:33,500
THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT
2996
01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:36,333
HURTS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE
2997
01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:38,433
DREAM IS KIND OF GONE AND THE
2998
01:31:38,433 --> 01:31:40,667
PROGRESS OF WHAT SHE WAS WORKING
2999
01:31:40,667 --> 01:31:42,567
TOWARDS AND REALLY, REALLY GOOD
3000
01:31:42,567 --> 01:31:43,600
AT.
3001
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,500
IT'S NOT THAT SHE FAILED AT IT.
3002
01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:48,200
SOMEBODY JUST TOOK IT AWAY AND
3003
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,700
SAID, "IT'S DONE."
3004
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:52,633
THAT'S HARD FOR ME, YOU KNOW, AS
3005
01:31:52,633 --> 01:31:54,500
THE HUSBAND -- TO SIT THERE AND
3006
01:31:54,500 --> 01:31:56,333
I-I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, YOU
3007
01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:56,767
KNOW?
3008
01:31:56,767 --> 01:31:58,767
I CAN'T -- THERE'S NOTHING I CAN
3009
01:31:58,767 --> 01:32:00,267
DO TO MAKE IT BETTER.
3010
01:32:00,267 --> 01:32:03,333
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT HURTS THE
3011
01:32:03,333 --> 01:32:05,567
MOST.
3012
01:32:19,733 --> 01:32:21,800
>> ALL RIGHT, THREE, TWO, ONE.
3013
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:22,533
WELCOME TO THE
3014
01:32:22,533 --> 01:32:23,733
TWO PLUS TWO POKERCAST FOR THE
3015
01:32:23,733 --> 01:32:26,533
WEEK OF JULY 31, 2012.
3016
01:32:26,533 --> 01:32:28,133
MIKE JOHNSON HERE, ALONG WITH
3017
01:32:28,133 --> 01:32:28,700
ADAM SCHWARTZ.
3018
01:32:28,700 --> 01:32:29,700
IT IS A GREAT DAY FOR ONLINE
3019
01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:31,333
POKER PLAYERS.
3020
01:32:31,567 --> 01:32:32,267
>> IT IS MIKE.
3021
01:32:32,267 --> 01:32:33,367
WHO SAYS THERE'S NO FAIRYTALE
3022
01:32:33,367 --> 01:32:34,700
ENDINGS IN REAL LIFE?
3023
01:32:34,700 --> 01:32:35,400
>> UH, YEAH.
3024
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:36,600
DUST OFF THE CHAMPAGNE BOTTLES.
3025
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:37,500
HERE'S THE STORY -- A
3026
01:32:37,500 --> 01:32:40,267
$700 MILLION DEAL HAS BEEN
3027
01:32:40,267 --> 01:32:42,267
STRUCK WITH THE D.O.J. THAT WILL
3028
01:32:42,267 --> 01:32:44,300
SETTLE ALL CIVIL CHARGES BETWEEN
3029
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:46,533
ONLINE POKER GIANTS PokerStars
3030
01:32:46,533 --> 01:32:47,800
AND FULL TILT POKER.
3031
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,133
AND ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?
3032
01:32:49,133 --> 01:32:50,867
THE TWIST IN THIS -- PokerStars
3033
01:32:50,867 --> 01:32:52,867
WILL ACQUIRE THE ASSETS OF THEIR
3034
01:32:52,867 --> 01:32:54,867
FORMER RIVAL, FULL TILT POKER,
3035
01:32:54,867 --> 01:32:57,133
FROM THE D.O.J. WITH THE PLAN TO
3036
01:32:57,133 --> 01:32:58,533
RE-LAUNCH THE DISGRACED
3037
01:32:58,533 --> 01:33:00,500
FULL TILT POKER ROOM LATER THIS
3038
01:33:00,500 --> 01:33:00,867
YEAR.
3039
01:33:00,867 --> 01:33:01,800
THIS IS MASSIVE.
3040
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:02,800
>> IT REALLY IS.
3041
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,633
THE BEST NEWS OF ALL IS THAT THE
3042
01:33:04,633 --> 01:33:06,433
PLAYERS WHO HAVE HAD MONEY STUCK
3043
01:33:06,433 --> 01:33:08,100
ONLINE, STUCK AT FULL TILT POKER
3044
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:09,467
SINCE APRIL OF 2011 -- THEY'RE
3045
01:33:09,467 --> 01:33:10,567
GOING TO GET THAT BACK.
3046
01:33:10,567 --> 01:33:11,633
>> 300 MILLION BUCKS.
3047
01:33:11,633 --> 01:33:13,533
>> OVER $300 MILLION.
3048
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:35,367
>> "THE RAW DEAL" WAS
3049
01:33:35,367 --> 01:33:36,833
WELL-RECEIVED IN SEASON 9.
3050
01:33:36,833 --> 01:33:38,100
THEY BROUGHT ME BACK FOR
3051
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:38,567
SEASON 10.
3052
01:33:38,567 --> 01:33:39,667
NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT OF
3053
01:33:39,667 --> 01:33:41,600
NEGOTIATING FOR THE FUTURE.
3054
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,133
I'M SURPRISED, BUT I ACTUALLY
3055
01:33:43,133 --> 01:33:44,433
LIKE HAVING A JOB, AND, YOU
3056
01:33:44,433 --> 01:33:45,800
KNOW, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ME TO
3057
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:47,733
DO ANYTHING THAT'S UNNATURAL.
3058
01:33:47,733 --> 01:33:49,433
FOR THE MOST PART, I SHOW UP AND
3059
01:33:49,433 --> 01:33:50,833
I MEET PEOPLE AND I TALK ABOUT
3060
01:33:50,833 --> 01:33:52,400
POKER AND I WEAR A SUIT AND
3061
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:53,867
SMILE, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW,
3062
01:33:53,867 --> 01:33:55,533
TERRIBLY HARD, SO WHAT'S NOT TO
3063
01:33:55,533 --> 01:33:57,167
LIKE?
3064
01:34:03,533 --> 01:34:04,800
>> AT THE MOMENT I'M PLAYING IN
3065
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,200
A BAND CALLED ALEXEI MARTOV.
3066
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:07,667
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BLUES,
3067
01:34:07,667 --> 01:34:09,400
PSYCHEDELIC-ROCK THREE-PIECE
3068
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,200
THAT I SING, PLAY GUITAR, PLAY
3069
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:12,567
PIANO IN.
3070
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,867
I MEAN, IN THE FUTURE WITH
3071
01:34:13,867 --> 01:34:15,267
POKER, I DEFINITELY PLAN TO KEEP
3072
01:34:15,267 --> 01:34:15,633
PLAYING.
3073
01:34:15,633 --> 01:34:16,633
I MEAN, I LOVE THE GAME.
3074
01:34:16,633 --> 01:34:18,267
IT'S REALLY GIVEN ME THE
3075
01:34:18,267 --> 01:34:20,167
OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SIT DOWN
3076
01:34:20,167 --> 01:34:22,233
AND DECIDE WHAT I WANT AND THEN
3077
01:34:22,233 --> 01:34:24,133
FORMULATE A PLAN TO ACHIEVE
3078
01:34:24,133 --> 01:34:25,167
THAT.
3079
01:34:25,167 --> 01:34:25,833
IT'S JUST, AT THIS POINT, I
3080
01:34:25,833 --> 01:34:27,233
THINK THAT MUSIC IS GOING TO BE
3081
01:34:27,233 --> 01:34:28,400
THE MAJOR PRIORITY THAT I WORK
3082
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:29,467
ON.
3083
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,700
>> SINCE BLACK FRIDAY, I'VE BEEN
3084
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:40,433
TRAVELLING BACK AND FORTH TO
3085
01:34:40,433 --> 01:34:41,167
L.A.
3086
01:34:41,167 --> 01:34:42,600
I GO TO THE COMMERCE CASINO TO
3087
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:43,567
PLAY LIVE POKER.
3088
01:34:43,567 --> 01:34:45,300
USUALLY I'M HOME FOR LIKE SIX
3089
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:46,867
WEEKS, AND THEN I GO OUT THERE
3090
01:34:46,867 --> 01:34:49,100
FOR ABOUT 7 TO 10 DAYS, AND THEN
3091
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:51,100
I COME HOME AND DO THE SAME
3092
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:52,167
THING, SO...
3093
01:34:52,167 --> 01:34:53,100
ALL RIGHT. I'LL BE HOME SOON.
3094
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,200
OKAY?
3095
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,233
>> OKAY, MOMMY.
3096
01:34:55,233 --> 01:34:56,400
>> OKAY. I LOVE YOU.
3097
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,200
ONE MORE HUG.
3098
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,500
I REALLY REALIZED HOW MUCH POKER
3099
01:34:59,500 --> 01:35:00,700
MEANS TO ME AND HOW MUCH I DO
3100
01:35:00,700 --> 01:35:03,167
LOVE PLAYING POKER, AND I NOW
3101
01:35:03,167 --> 01:35:04,633
KNOW THAT PLAYING POKER FOR A
3102
01:35:04,633 --> 01:35:06,200
LIVING IS SOMETHING THAT I
3103
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:07,667
DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE
3104
01:35:07,667 --> 01:35:09,367
DOING FOR AS LONG AS I CAN.
3105
01:35:09,367 --> 01:35:11,467
AND I GUESS IF THAT MEANS I HAVE
3106
01:35:11,467 --> 01:35:13,433
TO CONTINUE FLYING ACROSS THE
3107
01:35:13,433 --> 01:35:14,500
COUNTRY TO PLAY LIVE POKER,
3108
01:35:14,500 --> 01:35:16,300
THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO.
3109
01:35:16,300 --> 01:35:17,467
BYE, BUDDY!
3110
01:35:17,467 --> 01:35:21,467
>> BYE, MOMMY!
3111
01:35:24,233 --> 01:35:25,600
>> I THINK ONLINE POKER IS IN A
3112
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,167
SHORT-TERM DARK PERIOD HERE IN
3113
01:35:27,167 --> 01:35:28,567
AMERICA, BUT AT THE END OF THE
3114
01:35:28,567 --> 01:35:30,233
DAY, THE ECONOMICS ARE JUST TOO
3115
01:35:30,233 --> 01:35:31,433
OBVIOUS.
3116
01:35:31,667 --> 01:35:33,100
NOBODY'S GOING TO SIT BACK AND
3117
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:34,333
LET THESE SITES IN EUROPE OR IN
3118
01:35:34,333 --> 01:35:35,767
OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD MAKE
3119
01:35:35,767 --> 01:35:37,633
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR WHEN
3120
01:35:37,633 --> 01:35:39,267
THEY KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE
3121
01:35:39,267 --> 01:35:40,733
EQUALLY AS POPULAR HERE IN
3122
01:35:40,733 --> 01:35:42,800
AMERICA.
3123
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,433
>> WILL ONLINE POKER EVENTUALLY
3124
01:35:44,433 --> 01:35:45,367
BECOME LEGALIZED?
3125
01:35:45,367 --> 01:35:46,367
WILL IT BE REGULATED?
3126
01:35:46,367 --> 01:35:48,667
WILL THIS CREATE AN IMPETUS TO
3127
01:35:48,667 --> 01:35:51,300
CHANGE AND TO QUIT IGNORING THIS
3128
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:53,433
ACTION AS THOUGH IT DOESN'T
3129
01:35:53,433 --> 01:35:53,867
EXIST?
3130
01:35:53,867 --> 01:35:54,700
IT DOES EXIST.
3131
01:35:54,700 --> 01:35:55,733
IT WILL ALWAYS EXIST.
3132
01:35:55,733 --> 01:35:57,333
GAMBLING AND POKER PLAYING WILL
3133
01:35:57,333 --> 01:35:58,700
ALWAYS BE A PART OF SOCIETY AND
3134
01:35:58,700 --> 01:36:00,600
OUR CULTURE.
3135
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,467
>> POKER HAS A FUTURE.
3136
01:36:02,467 --> 01:36:04,533
ONLINE POKER HAS A FUTURE.
3137
01:36:04,533 --> 01:36:06,700
DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH
3138
01:36:06,700 --> 01:36:08,167
WHAT CAME BEFORE?
3139
01:36:08,167 --> 01:36:08,600
PROBABLY NOT.
3140
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:09,600
IT'S GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT,
3141
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,333
AND IT ALWAYS DOES.
3142
01:36:11,567 --> 01:36:12,667
>> 20 YEARS AGO, NOBODY EVER
3143
01:36:12,667 --> 01:36:13,767
WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOU'D HAVE
3144
01:36:13,767 --> 01:36:14,867
PEOPLE PLAYING POKER ONLINE,
3145
01:36:14,867 --> 01:36:15,800
PERIOD.
3146
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,300
SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY
3147
01:36:17,300 --> 01:36:18,600
SURPRISING THE WAY IT DEVELOPS.
3148
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:19,767
>> I MEAN THE GAME IS GOING TO
3149
01:36:19,767 --> 01:36:20,300
BE BIG.
3150
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:21,333
THE GAME IS GOING TO GROW.
3151
01:36:21,333 --> 01:36:23,100
BUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHO'S
3152
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:24,767
PLAYING IT, WHO'S WINNING, WHO'S
3153
01:36:24,767 --> 01:36:27,667
LOSING -- ALL THAT'S A MYSTERY,
3154
01:36:27,667 --> 01:36:29,100
WHICH IS WHAT POKER IS.
3155
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:30,400
IT'S A MYSTERY.
3156
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,267
YOU PICK UP YOUR CARDS, YOU BET
3157
01:36:32,267 --> 01:36:34,167
YOUR CHIPS, AND YOU DON'T REALLY
3158
01:36:34,167 --> 01:36:35,767
KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
3159
01:36:35,767 --> 01:36:37,700
UNTIL THE FINAL CARD IS DEALT.
3160
01:36:37,700 --> 01:36:38,700
THE FINAL CARD HASN'T BEEN
3161
01:36:38,700 --> 01:36:39,200
DEALT.
3162
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:40,267
IN FACT, WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN
3163
01:36:40,267 --> 01:36:42,000
THE FLOP YET.
3164
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:23,133
>> ultimatepoker.com IS PLEASED
3165
01:37:23,133 --> 01:37:24,800
TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE WAIT IS
3166
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:25,533
OVER.
3167
01:37:25,533 --> 01:37:27,300
WE ARE NOW LIVE AND DEALING
3168
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:29,133
ONLINE POKER IN THE STATE OF
3169
01:37:29,133 --> 01:37:29,733
NEVADA.
3170
01:37:29,733 --> 01:37:31,133
>> ULTIMATE POKER IS PROUD OF
3171
01:37:31,133 --> 01:37:32,300
THIS HISTORIC MOMENT, AS THE
3172
01:37:32,300 --> 01:37:34,567
FIRST TRUSTED AND LEGAL ONLINE
3173
01:37:34,567 --> 01:37:35,833
POKER COMPANY TO HAVE REAL-MONEY
3174
01:37:35,833 --> 01:37:38,167
POKER IN THE UNITED STATES.
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