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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK: Tonight on
"Unsolved Mysteries," a story
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of a lonely housewife
in Maine who
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searched for love in her
newspaper's personal columns.
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Two years ago, she went on
a blind date and vanished.
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And on the "Queen Mary,"
dozens of eyewitnesses
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claim they have seen
or heard ghosts.
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Last month, parapsychologists
tape recorded phantom sound
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of what some believe
is a shipwreck that
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took place 40 years earlier.
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We'll also examine
the case of a man
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awaiting trial for the
murder of two teenage girls.
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Joe Shepherd has escaped.
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Perhaps you can help catch him.
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Tonight's cases
feature ordinary people
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thrust into a vortex of mystery,
heartbreak, and intrigue.
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Each one is searching
for that vital clue
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to end a story that,
so far, has no ending.
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Perhaps you can help.
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Join me.
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You may be able to
help solve a mystery.
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[theme music]
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This is the "Queen Mary,"
now permanently moored in
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Long Beach, California.
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On her decks and
in her corridors
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people have seen and heard
things they can't explain.
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I'd been here
about 14 years when
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I had the first experience
with actually seeing
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what I thought to be a ghost.
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It was a December morning.
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I was in the work area.
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And for some reason, I
picked up a cup of coffee,
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went out to the table, and
there was a lady sitting there.
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I was so fascinated
by her dress.
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She appeared to be in a
late-afternoon cocktail
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type dress from the '40s.
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She had dark hair rolled
at the side, no makeup on.
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She seemed to be very pale.
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But I never saw a movement.
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I left the table,
went up about 10 feet,
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turned around because I
wanted to take another look,
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and there was nothing there.
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I am probably the
last person that
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should have had
these experiences
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because I'm such a skeptic.
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One day, I was standing
on the stairs of the pool
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and out of the corner
of my right eye,
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I saw a woman, probably in her
60s or 70s, in black and white.
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So I went down the stairs
and around the pillar,
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expecting to find
her standing there,
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and she wasn't
anywhere to be found.
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It was only a matter of seconds.
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She couldn't have gone anywhere.
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Several others besides
Carol and Nancy say they have
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seen or heard ghosts
here in the "Queen
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Mary's" first-class pool.
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How do we explain
these sightings
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by reportedly well-balanced,
level-headed people?
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Could they simply
result from the power
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of suggestion stimulated
by an eerie location?
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Some parapsychologists believe
that all locations are haunted.
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That is, they retain
memories of past events
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that some people with psychic
sensitivities, or ESP,
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experience as hauntings.
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Whatever the explanation,
the "Queen Mary"
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seems to be inhabited
by something
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ethereal that has been seen
and heard, but not explained.
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[music - "queen of the sea"]
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Oh, I'm happy and gay
'cause I'm sailing away.
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ROBERT STACK: The "Queen
Mary" took her maiden voyage
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on May 27, 1936, and
transported the titled and elite
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from both sides of the Atlantic.
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The "Queen Mary".
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How'd you like to come with me--
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ROBERT STACK: During
that five-day voyage,
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the "Queen Mary" was a
floating party, a living
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symbol of luxury travel.
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--by a British crew.
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So when I go over the sea,
the "Queen Mary" takes me.
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ROBERT STACK: In the
second World War,
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the "Queen Mary" was
turned into a troopship.
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Due to her ghostly grey
camouflage, she was ironically
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nicknamed "The Grey Ghost."
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After the war, she reverted
back to her former glory
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and crossed the ocean
a total of 1,001 times.
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In the over-30
years the ship was
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at sea, she witnessed
four births,
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and at least 49 recorded deaths.
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After her arrival in
Long Beach in 1967,
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one of the first
people to work onboard
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was Marine Engineer John Smith.
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Part of my duties was to check
and learn the ship thoroughly,
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and so I explored
it in the evenings
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when my regular
day's work was done--
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ROBERT STACK: His job took
him into the remote regions
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of the ship's bow.
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And several times over
a two-month period,
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he heard something where there
should only have been silence.
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[metal moving]
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He heard the sounds
of metal tearing,
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water rushing, and
then men screaming.
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[men screaming]
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It sounded like there had been
a rupture of the ship's hull.
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It was frightful.
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I went up to the extreme
bow section of the ship,
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and the sound was here,
but there was no water
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and nothing to cause it.
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I don't believe in
supernatural things,
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but in all my experiences
as a marine engineer,
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I've never seen
anything like this.
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ROBERT STACK: Years later, Smith
read about a wartime tragedy,
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the "Queen Mary's"
accidental collision
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with a British cruiser
named the "Curacoa".
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[booming]
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Over 300 men were killed.
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The "Queen Mary's" bow
sliced the "Curacoa" in half.
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After I read
that article, I was
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so shook up and so overwhelmed.
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The very area I heard that
mysterious water rushing was
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the exact same area that was
damaged when the ship hit
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the "Curacoa," I said,
this is what it would have
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sounded and felt like if I
had been in that compartment
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at the time.
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But I knew it couldn't be.
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That was 30 years earlier.
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It couldn't be anything.
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ROBERT STACK: Over the
years, dozens of sightings
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had been reported.
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Late one night in the
pool area, Maintenance
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Supervisor Kathy
Love and a coworker
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heard mysterious sounds.
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KATHY LOVE: We
came into the pool
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and I heard giggling--
sound of a little girl
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or a child playing in the area.
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[giggling]
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And at that point, I
noticed there was splashing.
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These splashings stopped.
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The giggling continued.
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And we observed the footprints
of a small child walking
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across into the locker room.
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I know that I saw what I saw.
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I'm not sure exactly why I saw
it, but I know it was there.
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ROBERT STACK: Several
unexplained encounters
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have occurred in shaft
alley deep within the ship,
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near the engine room.
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Here, in 1966, during
a routine fire drill,
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a man named John
Pedder was crushed
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to death in a watertight door.
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Some believe Pedder
still haunts shaft alley.
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Where'd they-- uh,
where'd they say he was?
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It was down here in
shaft alley somewhere.
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ROBERT STACK: Both tour members
and employees have experienced
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hauntings in shaft alley.
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Blue coveralls and a beard?
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Yeah.
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Said they was dressed in blue
coveralls, and he had a beard.
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There was two different
tour groups that said it.
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NANCY ANNE: I had a second
experience down in shaft alley.
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It was about 5:30 or 6
o'clock in the evening.
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I was working in the capacity
of a lead guide, which meant
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my job was to close
down the tour route
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and make sure that there
weren't any stragglers behind.
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And I don't know why I turned
around, but I turned around.
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And standing right behind
me on the step was a man.
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He had blue overalls
and they were dirty.
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When I stepped aside to let
him go by, he wasn't there.
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He was gone.
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I don't necessarily believe
any other ghost stories that
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other people have come up with.
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I only know what I
saw, and I only believe
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what I saw with my own eyes.
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ROBERT STACK: Last month,
"Unsolved Mysteries"
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brought to the
"Queen Mary" a team
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of experts who've spent decades
investigating hauntings.
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Using sophisticated
recording equipment,
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they would attempt to verify
the eyewitness accounts.
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--to head out, and as soon
as I got around the corner,
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it started in again.
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He came in here
and he came out--
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ROBERT STACK:
Danish-born William
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Roll is one of the
world's leading
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authorities on poltergeists.
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I'm often asked the question,
do you believe in ghosts?
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And what I expect
I will be asked
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when I finish this
investigation,
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are there ghosts on this ship?
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And these are questions
that I cannot answer.
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ROBERT STACK: Tony Cornell has
researched paranormal activity
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for 25 years.
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I am a skeptic,
but, at the same time,
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I must allow for the fact
that other people who
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are very sane and
sensible have seen
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things and experienced things.
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The apparitional
stuff, I think, is
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probably the most interesting.
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The stuff in the pool and
the stuff in shaft alley
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look as if they are
repeated cases-- so often
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that they must be genuine.
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ROBERT STACK: Cornell set up
his surveillance equipment.
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William Roll led a team
of psychics onboard.
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All six claimed to know nothing
about the ship's history
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or about the
haunting occurrences.
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Armed with maps and their
psychic sensitivity,
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they struck off in many
different directions alone.
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After the search,
the psychics gathered
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together to compare notes.
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Though some had
nothing to report,
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others sensed a great deal
of activity that coincided
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with eyewitness reports.
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--the bow of the ship.
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Did you mention something
about a collision
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or something like that?
- Yeah, I felt a collision.
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WILLIAM ROLL: I see.
Uh-huh.
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I felt the impression
of a collision.
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I see.
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TONY CORNELL: You know the
histories of "Queen Mary"?
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No, I don't.
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But I definitely felt
the movement of the ship
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and I felt the jerking hit and
the sensation from the body,
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and I did hear footsteps.
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WILLIAM ROLL: I see.
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So let's go to the next one.
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ROBERT STACK: In shaft
alley, one psychic
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sensed a 20-year-old tragedy.
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Janice, would you describe
your experiences in that area?
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I felt that there had been--
not that I was hearing it
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physically, but that at times,
someone could hear a very
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rhythmical banging as
if someone had a wrench
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or a large piece of iron--
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TONY CORNELL: A wrench?
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--banging against-- a wrench.
TONY CORNELL: A wrench.
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A wrench.
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That was the--
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TONY CORNELL: Not a hammer?
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No.
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Would be a wrench.
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Someone had apparently
gotten trapped--
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TONY CORNELL: It is a
fact that some psychics
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manage to pick up
things and you can't
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quite see how they got it.
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But you've got to be
suspicious about this
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because there's a
thing called feedback.
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I mean, I've met enough mediums
now who've read what they want
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to tell you in the newspaper.
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ROBERT STACK: One investigator
did find something.
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While William Roll was
surveying the bow area,
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he heard some unusual
sounds he couldn't explain.
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There was the sound
of two men talking.
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And it was heard by
the security guard who
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brought me there and by myself.
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And it seemed to
come from the lower
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levels of the bow of the ship.
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ROBERT STACK: In 30
years of investigation,
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this was the first
time that Roll
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had heard an
unexplained sound that
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had been reported by a witness.
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In this case, he believes
what he perceived was genuine.
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Roll placed a voice-activated
tape recorder in the bow area
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at the same spot where
the voices were heard.
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RECORDER: It's 3:15 AM.
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ROBERT STACK: For
most of the night,
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this is what was recorded.
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Nothing.
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In the early morning,
for a full two minutes,
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the tape recorder
picked up sounds
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where no sounds should be.
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This is a condensed
version of the actual tape.
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[metal rumbling]
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Earlier, the bow
had been sealed off.
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The researchers attempted
to duplicate the sounds
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through mechanical means.
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They were unsuccessful.
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WILLIAM ROLL: What
we can conclude
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is that there is a physical
source for the sounds.
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Now, is it parapsychological
or does it have some other kind
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of source?
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That still remains uncertain.
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Man has had this
kind of experience
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as long as recorded history.
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It is a human experience.
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It's going to
continue going on, and
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somebody's got to look at it.
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It's a challenge.
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And it's a mystery that
has got to be solved.
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ROBERT STACK: What can
explain these hauntings?
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Overactive imagination?
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A quest for publicity?
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Or something more intangible,
something supernatural?
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Is the "Queen Mary" haunted?
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We cannot say yes,
but we cannot say no.
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[theme music]
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February 27, 1978.
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Tellico Plains, Tennessee.
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[girl yelling]
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In a parked car,
16-year-old Roxanne Woodson
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fought off the advances of
a man named Joe Shepherd.
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Two friends watched
from the back seat.
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Roxanne escaped and
ran off into the night.
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Joe chased after her.
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Roxanne never returned.
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When Roxanne failed
to come home,
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her family began to worry.
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You'd just wring your
hands and there's no outlet.
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There's no relief because
you haven't got her.
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She's gone and you don't
know what's happened to her.
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And she's out there and
you can't reach her.
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And you can't help her.
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After 10 years, the
case of Roxanne Woodson
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still haunts her family
and everyone living
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in Tellico Plains, Tennessee.
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For weeks, there was
no trace of Roxanne.
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And as her
investigation unfolded,
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the police became convinced that
the last person who saw her,
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Joe Shepherd, was a
psychopathic killer.
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The night after Roxanne
Woodson was reported missing,
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police went to
the home where Joe
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Shepherd lived with his parents
to take him in for questioning.
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Gonna have shoes on.
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ROBERT STACK: The
officers waited
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while Joe went into his
bedroom to put on his boots.
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DA just wants to
talk to him, ma'am.
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JOE'S MOM: Well, what does
he wanna talk to him about?
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Joe'll talk to him
over and over again.
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ROBERT STACK: Joe
reached for his shotgun.
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OFFICER: He's got
a gun, [inaudible]?
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The officers fired
two warning shots.
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After a brief struggled, they
wrestled the gun away from him.
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He was then brought
in for interrogation.
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When was the last time
you saw Roxanne Woodson?
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RICHARD FISHER:
Joe's initial story
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was that he had attempted
to seduce Roxanne
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and she had gotten mad at him--
at his persistent efforts--
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and had jumped from the
car and run into the woods,
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so he went running after her.
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And finally, Joe came
back, telling the two boys
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that he'd tried to get
her back and that he
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didn't know where she'd gone.
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ROBERT STACK: Joe
Shepherd was booked
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for assaulting a police officer,
made bond, and was released.
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For several days, over 60
people combed through the woods
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looking for Roxanne.
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Joe voluntarily joined them.
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The police brought
in dogs to follow
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Roxanne's scent into the woods.
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They tracked her only
a few yards and then
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the trail abruptly stopped.
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Still the searchers found
no trace of Roxanne,
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and the girl's family
began to panic.
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We just fell on our
knees and said, oh god, no.
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Oh god, no, not her.
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She loved her daddy
so much and he knew
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she would not have ran off.
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ROBERT STACK: After a
few frustrating days,
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the search was called off.
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Roxanne Woodson had
vanished until the afternoon
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of April 8, 1978.
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DAVID GUY: Roxanne's body was
found after Joe's mother was
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standing at the window in
the kitchen looking out,
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and she noticed that the dogs
were digging and going on
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at one specific location there.
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And she became alarmed.
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She went outside and walked up
on what proved to be two hands
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sticking out of the ground.
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Oh!
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Louis!
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Louis!
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Louis?
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She notified the
authorities at that time
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and they came to
the Shepherd home
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and did remove the
body of Roxanne Woodson
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from Joe Shepherd's
mother and father's yard.
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ROBERT STACK: Roxanne had been
buried in a shallow grave.
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Some of her clothes were
missing and her pants had
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been wrapped around her head.
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At that point, the Monroe
County sheriff's deputy
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took out a warrant charging
the suspect, Joe Shepherd,
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with first degree murder.
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We went to his mother-in-law--
ex-mother-in-law's home
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to conduct a search and they
told us he wasn't there.
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We went in and searched
the house and found him.
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There was a child in the
bed and he was rolled up
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in the covers under
the foot of the bed--
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like, the cover was just rolled
onto the foot of the bed.
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He was hidden in there.
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Joe, look at me.
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00:21:03,896 --> 00:21:06,999
We found Roxanne, Joe.
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We found her, Joe.
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Look here, Joe.
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Found her buried
in your front yard.
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Look at 'em, Joe.
Found her buried in your yard.
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ROBERT STACK: During a
second interrogation,
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Joe's story began to change.
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- I didn't kill her.
- Come on, Joe.
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Just tell us the truth.
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What happened to her?
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Joe began to fill in the
blanks of the segment
401
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that he had earlier given.
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And he said that when
Roxanne ran from the car
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and into the woods, he gave
chase and that, as she was
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running through the
woods, that she had fallen
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and [inaudible] her head.
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Roxanne?
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Roxanne!
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She had hit her
head or something.
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I tried to-- I come
up on her and she--
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I tried to revive her.
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I thought maybe she
was just knocked out.
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ROBERT STACK: He
told investigators
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that he panicked and returned
to his car and companions.
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They left the area.
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Joe claimed he
returned to the scene
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later that same night,
unsure whether Roxanne
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was dead or alive.
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He carried her back to his car.
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He placed the girl inside
and drove off into the night.
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00:22:21,707 --> 00:22:23,609
I didn't do nothing to her.
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00:22:23,609 --> 00:22:26,011
All I did is I
figured-- you know,
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00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:27,313
something could
happen to her out
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00:22:27,313 --> 00:22:29,782
there-- animal or something--
so I-- I buried her.
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That's all I done.
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So I did.
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I took her-- I took her back
to the house and buried her.
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WAYNE ADKINS: According
to Joe Shepherd,
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not knowing what to do with
in his previous encounters
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with the law, he was afraid to
contact any law enforcements.
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So then he decided to bury her.
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And he could find no other
place other than his residence
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there in Tellico Plains.
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He never did actually
admit to being
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responsible for her death.
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He admitted he had been with
her and that she had died
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with some sort of
head injury that she
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had attained when she fell.
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As a result of
your investigation--
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ROBERT STACK: Joe was
brought before a judge.
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He recommended that
Joe be formally charged
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with the murder of
Roxanne Woodson.
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--to the grand jury.
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Bond is set at $150,000.
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ROBERT STACK: As the
Roxanne Woodson story begin
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to draw to a close,
another murder case
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was about to be reopened.
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DAVID GUY: After Joe had
been charged in regards
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to the homicide, the
investigators who had talked
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00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:34,546
with him and
questioned him, they
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had became pretty much buddies.
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00:23:37,316 --> 00:23:39,718
Joe had learned to
trust these people.
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And he wanted to help them.
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ROBERT STACK:
Detective Joe Graves
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had received an anonymous
phone call linking Joe
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to another disappearance--
that of a girl
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named Kathy Clowers, a
local 14-year-old who
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had vanished two years earlier.
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I can take you to the
last place I saw her.
459
00:24:02,241 --> 00:24:05,044
I need you to take us and
show us where she is now.
460
00:24:05,044 --> 00:24:05,844
Can you do that?
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00:24:09,348 --> 00:24:10,249
Yeah.
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00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:11,817
I-- I can take you there.
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00:24:11,817 --> 00:24:12,918
ROBERT STACK: Joe
told them that,
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not only did he
know Kathy Clowers,
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but he knew where
she was buried.
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00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:19,258
He offered to take them there.
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About a half a mile.
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RICHARD FISHER: We
went into the woods
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probably a couple hundred
yards off of the highway.
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Joe had designated a spot
where we ought to dig.
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We had taken along a
pickax and shovel and such
472
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and started digging
in the ground.
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We'd gone down some depth and
hadn't uncovered a body at all.
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I took the pickax
just to sort a relieve
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00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,795
the guy who had been
doing the digging,
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and after about the second
effort, a piece of red cloth
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came up on the
head of the pickax.
478
00:25:06,705 --> 00:25:09,007
I'll never forget Joe
Shepherd was hunkered down
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beside the hole we
were digging, and he
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looked up with this cold smile
on his face and said, see?
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I told you so.
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00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:20,219
He was proud, I
think, of the fact
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00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:22,421
that he had produced
a body for us
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and showed no emotion at all.
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ROBERT STACK: Though The
body was badly decomposed,
486
00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:31,463
Dr. William Bass, a noted
forensic anthropologist,
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00:25:31,463 --> 00:25:34,800
was able to identify it
as that of Kathy Clowers.
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WILLIAM BASS: Looks to be
fairly young, maybe mid-teens.
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00:25:37,736 --> 00:25:41,039
Kathy Clowers had chipped
tooth and this matched
490
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the chip tooth that she had.
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Dr. Bass, is there anything
that indicates a culpability?
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There was no evidence on the
skeleton of cause of death.
493
00:25:50,082 --> 00:25:54,486
There were no gunshot wounds,
no stab wounds, no broken bones.
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00:25:54,486 --> 00:25:59,892
Whatever caused death did not
leave its mark on the skeleton.
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00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:03,495
The clothing of this girl--
the a pants leg had been
496
00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:06,398
wrapped around her
head very similar
497
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:12,204
to the manner in which the
Woodson child had been buried.
498
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:15,374
There had been a pants leg
wrapped around her head.
499
00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:18,210
ROBERT STACK: On
April 17, 1978 Joe
500
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:20,679
Shepherd was formally
indicted for the murder
501
00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:23,782
of Kathy Clowers.
502
00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:26,752
While awaiting trial for
the double homicides,
503
00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:30,155
Joe was held at the
Bradley County jail.
504
00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:33,725
On July 17, 1978, one
of the jailers was
505
00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:36,094
summoned to a cell near Joe's.
506
00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:38,230
What's the matter
with you, boy?
507
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,699
ROBERT STACK: The jailer
was lured into the cell
508
00:26:40,699 --> 00:26:42,267
by a man feigning sickness.
509
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,735
- What's your problem?
- I don't know.
510
00:26:43,735 --> 00:26:44,536
I'm sick.
511
00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:53,545
You make a move
and I'll kill you.
512
00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:55,214
ROBERT STACK: After
locking up the jailer,
513
00:26:55,214 --> 00:26:58,183
the two men went to
Joe Shepherd's cell.
514
00:26:58,183 --> 00:27:00,719
They released him, and the
three men fled the prison.
515
00:27:05,524 --> 00:27:07,493
While the other
two escapees where
516
00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:11,930
recaptured the following week,
Joe Shepherd remains at large.
517
00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:19,304
I feel certain that Joe
is a danger to society.
518
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:23,275
The methodology that
he put into each act
519
00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:28,680
was that of a very criminal
mind-- a mind that feels
520
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,286
no guilt. Or he is just there
and he's capable of doing it
521
00:27:34,286 --> 00:27:35,687
at any time.
522
00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:38,490
We don't know what sets him off.
523
00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:41,493
I would like to see
him brought to justice.
524
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:44,530
I'd like to see justice done.
525
00:27:44,530 --> 00:27:49,101
For personal reasons and for
the love of my granddaughter
526
00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:53,005
I would like to see it,
but also for the mothers
527
00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:57,342
out there that their
daughters might be in danger.
528
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,011
ROBERT STACK: These pictures
of Joe Arlin Shepherd
529
00:27:59,011 --> 00:28:01,013
were taken in 1978.
530
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:04,516
He is six feet tall and
weighs about 150 pounds.
531
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:07,019
He has brown hair, a
scar on his left forearm,
532
00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:09,555
and he may be working
as an auto mechanic.
533
00:28:09,555 --> 00:28:12,424
Shepherd has recently been
seen in El Paso, Texas.
534
00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,893
The authorities believe
he may be living somewhere
535
00:28:14,893 --> 00:28:15,994
along the Mexican border.
536
00:28:19,665 --> 00:28:22,367
Update, London, Ontario, Canada.
537
00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:26,104
A 10-year search for
Joe Shepherd has ended.
538
00:28:26,104 --> 00:28:28,173
After the "Unsolved Mystery"
show on October the 5th,
539
00:28:28,173 --> 00:28:31,877
we received a phone call
from a local resident
540
00:28:31,877 --> 00:28:35,180
saying that he
believed the guy called
541
00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:37,749
Shepherd was, in
fact, living in London
542
00:28:37,749 --> 00:28:40,385
under the name Joseph Tripp.
543
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:42,521
We began an investigation.
544
00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:46,058
And when we had identified
him to our satisfaction
545
00:28:46,058 --> 00:28:49,595
as Shepherd, he was arrested.
546
00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:51,029
ROBERT STACK: At the
time of his arrest,
547
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:53,332
Shepherd was living in a
government housing project
548
00:28:53,332 --> 00:28:55,467
in London, Ontario
with his common-law
549
00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:58,103
wife and their two children.
550
00:28:58,103 --> 00:29:02,841
It seems apparent that Mr.
Shepherd was in London, Canada
551
00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:06,044
within a matter of days after
his escape from Bradley County.
552
00:29:21,927 --> 00:29:25,831
[theme music]
553
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:32,838
ROBERT STACK: Wiscasset,
Maine, a picturesque town
554
00:29:32,838 --> 00:29:36,041
of 3,000 people.
555
00:29:36,041 --> 00:29:37,876
Each year, vacationers
come here to escape.
556
00:29:40,579 --> 00:29:43,815
But for Gail DeLano,
who lived in Wiscasset,
557
00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:46,852
this vacation
paradise was a prison.
558
00:29:46,852 --> 00:29:49,621
She wrote about it in her diary.
559
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:50,856
GAIL DELANO (VOICEOVER):
"Maine seems
560
00:29:50,856 --> 00:29:53,358
to bring out the worst in me.
561
00:29:53,358 --> 00:29:56,828
I don't see an end
to my loneliness.
562
00:29:56,828 --> 00:30:00,365
It just seems to go on forever.
563
00:30:00,365 --> 00:30:07,606
I need someone so desperately
that nothing seems to work."
564
00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:09,641
ROBERT STACK: Gail
DeLano was twice divorced
565
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,243
and the mother of
two teenage boys.
566
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:17,916
She looked for companionship
in the personal ads
567
00:30:17,916 --> 00:30:18,917
of her local newspaper.
568
00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:25,357
When she placed the ads, she
described herself exuberantly.
569
00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:28,360
GAIL DELANO (VOICEOVER):
"Unique female, 34,
570
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,799
attractive, trim, intelligent,
affectionate, independent,
571
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,703
slightly crazy night owl.
572
00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:42,607
Likes music, movies,
dance, dining.
573
00:30:42,607 --> 00:30:46,545
Seeks easygoing, intelligent,
responsible, not overweight
574
00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:49,448
male for growing relationship.
575
00:30:49,448 --> 00:30:50,749
I'm in Wiscasset.
576
00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:56,788
Where are you?"
577
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:59,558
ROBERT STACK: June 21, 1986.
578
00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:03,428
Gail DeLano drove alone to a
restaurant in Brunswick, Maine
579
00:31:03,428 --> 00:31:04,730
to meet a blind date.
580
00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:10,836
Gail's family never saw
or heard from her again.
581
00:31:18,443 --> 00:31:20,345
Despite the tone of
her personal ads,
582
00:31:20,345 --> 00:31:23,648
Gail DeLano was
shy and withdrawn.
583
00:31:23,648 --> 00:31:26,084
For Gail, placing these
ads was an act of courage.
584
00:31:26,084 --> 00:31:29,287
It was also an act of hope.
585
00:31:29,287 --> 00:31:32,190
The last entry in
her diary read,
586
00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:33,658
"it would be nice
to find someone
587
00:31:33,658 --> 00:31:35,560
to date over the summer.
588
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,762
Who knows?
589
00:31:36,762 --> 00:31:40,465
Maybe I'll get lucky and
find someone interesting."
590
00:31:40,465 --> 00:31:42,734
Gail was searching not
only for companionship,
591
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:46,071
but also for a father
figure for her two boys.
592
00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:48,907
Her desperate need to find
love placed her in the center
593
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,142
of an unsolved mystery.
594
00:31:53,044 --> 00:31:58,116
Friday evening, June 20, 1986.
595
00:31:58,116 --> 00:32:01,386
Gail's sons recall that she had
a two-and-a-half-hour telephone
596
00:32:01,386 --> 00:32:03,789
conversation with
a man named John,
597
00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:05,891
a man they assumed
their mother had
598
00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:09,861
met through the personal ads.
599
00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:11,530
Mom, this isn't like you.
600
00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:13,698
Well, I'm in a
pretty good mood today.
601
00:32:13,698 --> 00:32:14,633
Why?
602
00:32:14,633 --> 00:32:16,468
I got a call from
John last night.
603
00:32:16,468 --> 00:32:18,503
ROBERT STACK: The next
morning, Gail told her sons
604
00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:19,905
she planned to have
coffee with John
605
00:32:19,905 --> 00:32:23,341
at the Howard
Johnson's in Brunswick,
606
00:32:23,341 --> 00:32:26,678
and then, if things went well,
spend the afternoon with him.
607
00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:28,446
Be good while I'm gone, OK?
608
00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:36,288
ROBERT STACK: That night, Gail's
13-year-old son, Ryan, returned
609
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,124
home from a friend's house.
610
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:41,793
He discovered that his
mother was not at home.
611
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:43,061
Mom?
612
00:32:43,061 --> 00:32:44,729
ROBERT STACK: Ryan was
concerned, but not alarmed.
613
00:32:44,729 --> 00:32:45,530
RYAN DELANO: Mom?
614
00:32:47,999 --> 00:32:50,936
ROBERT STACK: When Gail did
not return home the next night,
615
00:32:50,936 --> 00:32:52,771
her family called the police.
616
00:32:52,771 --> 00:32:53,738
10-4, Brunswick.
617
00:32:53,738 --> 00:32:55,707
En route.
618
00:32:55,707 --> 00:32:58,610
ROBERT STACK: It was now 37
hours by the time Gail DeLano
619
00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:01,413
had left home to meet her date.
620
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:04,249
The police immediately searched
the Howard Johnson's parking
621
00:33:04,249 --> 00:33:06,318
lot and located Gail's car.
622
00:33:09,521 --> 00:33:11,489
DAN BRADFORD: There was no
indication at that point
623
00:33:11,489 --> 00:33:13,325
that there was any foul play.
624
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:16,161
Basically, it was an
adult woman who has
625
00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:18,096
gone out and spent the night.
626
00:33:18,096 --> 00:33:20,565
The history we got was
that that's not unusual
627
00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:24,035
for her to spend the night out,
although it was unusual for her
628
00:33:24,035 --> 00:33:26,204
to do it without calling.
629
00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:27,939
When she'd been
gone that long,
630
00:33:27,939 --> 00:33:29,975
it just wasn't right
because she was
631
00:33:29,975 --> 00:33:33,445
so careful about keeping
track with the children
632
00:33:33,445 --> 00:33:35,213
where she was.
633
00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:37,549
We knew if she'd been
gone for that long
634
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:39,117
that something was haywire.
635
00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:41,887
ROBERT STACK: Gail's family was
forced to wait until 11 o'clock
636
00:33:41,887 --> 00:33:43,521
Monday morning to
have her officially
637
00:33:43,521 --> 00:33:45,924
declared a missing person.
638
00:33:45,924 --> 00:33:48,326
Only then could the
police search her car.
639
00:33:51,329 --> 00:33:53,331
PLATT MONFORT: When
we got the car open,
640
00:33:53,331 --> 00:33:57,168
we tried to see if there would
be a note or anything that
641
00:33:57,168 --> 00:34:00,105
would be from Gail that would
explain particularly who she
642
00:34:00,105 --> 00:34:02,040
was with because,
at this point, we
643
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,509
figured this guy that
she had the date with had
644
00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:05,410
done something.
645
00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:06,645
Is there anything in there?
646
00:34:06,645 --> 00:34:07,913
DAN BRADFORD: No,
it's pretty clean.
647
00:34:07,913 --> 00:34:09,281
PLATT MONFORT: And we
looked the car over
648
00:34:09,281 --> 00:34:11,983
and there was
nothing in the car.
649
00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:16,087
Normally I know the
person's first and last name
650
00:34:16,087 --> 00:34:20,792
and where he's from, but
this one time we just missed.
651
00:34:20,792 --> 00:34:22,960
It had to be that one time.
652
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,196
I had spoken with her
earlier that afternoon
653
00:34:26,197 --> 00:34:28,632
and she said, I have a feeling
I'm going to have a date
654
00:34:28,632 --> 00:34:29,934
and I'm going to
do something happy,
655
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:31,670
and I'm going to have
fun this weekend.
656
00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:33,672
And then look what happened.
657
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:40,445
ROBERT STACK: Two hours
after the police had removed
658
00:34:40,445 --> 00:34:43,047
Gail's car, a Howard
Johnson's busboy
659
00:34:43,047 --> 00:34:45,816
made a startling discovery.
660
00:34:45,817 --> 00:34:47,518
DAN BRADFORD: The manager
of Howard Johnson's
661
00:34:47,518 --> 00:34:50,087
called the Brunswick police
department to notify them
662
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:53,625
that one of their busboys
had found a set of keys
663
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:57,128
in the parking slot where Gail
DeLano's car had been parked
664
00:34:57,128 --> 00:34:58,964
prior to their moving it.
665
00:34:58,964 --> 00:35:01,166
And when the policeman
handed those keys and said,
666
00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:02,267
are these Gail's keys?
667
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:03,435
And I thought, oh, my god.
668
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,837
I said, they'd have
to kill her short
669
00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:07,372
of getting those keys from her.
670
00:35:07,372 --> 00:35:10,442
And I just about
came unglued then.
671
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:13,778
And I guess I said to Platt,
you've got to find my baby.
672
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:14,679
Where is she?
673
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,616
Where is she?
674
00:35:17,616 --> 00:35:20,485
ROBERT STACK: Two weeks later,
a nine-year-old boy playing
675
00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:22,954
on the other side of
the Howard Johnson's
676
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:26,257
made a second startling
discovery-- Gail's purse.
677
00:35:29,527 --> 00:35:33,865
Finding the purse at
the parking lot kind of
678
00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:37,769
raised our concern about the
possibility of foul play.
679
00:35:37,769 --> 00:35:41,373
I was just heartsick when I
found out because, again, she
680
00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:44,909
would not let go of that
handbag short of being bopped
681
00:35:44,909 --> 00:35:47,212
in the head or dragged away.
682
00:35:47,212 --> 00:35:50,582
See what we can find in
there that might help us.
683
00:35:50,582 --> 00:35:52,017
Actually, the
pocketbook was very
684
00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:55,086
nice inside and quite orderly.
685
00:35:55,086 --> 00:35:58,056
So it appeared right
from the beginning
686
00:35:58,056 --> 00:36:00,558
that it had not been
rifled through by anybody
687
00:36:00,558 --> 00:36:05,663
looking for any type of money
or things of this nature.
688
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:08,466
ROBERT STACK: Curiously, while
the purse appeared untouched,
689
00:36:08,466 --> 00:36:10,035
there was no money in it.
690
00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:11,836
Folding wallet with--
691
00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:13,471
ROBERT STACK: Even
the emergency $5
692
00:36:13,471 --> 00:36:16,741
bill that Gail always kept
tucked in a secret compartment
693
00:36:16,741 --> 00:36:17,542
was missing.
694
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:24,215
Using a datebook they
found in her purse,
695
00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:27,152
Detectives Mallet and Bradford
compiled a list of the men
696
00:36:27,152 --> 00:36:29,220
that Gail might have
dated in the last year.
697
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:30,288
June 20.
698
00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:33,391
The last entry in
there is, "John called.
699
00:36:33,391 --> 00:36:35,660
Talked 2 and 1/2 hours."
700
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:36,995
ROBERT STACK: One of
them was a man named
701
00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:38,830
John from Old Orchard Beach.
702
00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:45,537
This man swore he
had never dated Gail.
703
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,239
He said the only time he might
have talked to her on the phone
704
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,508
was months before
she disappeared.
705
00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:51,409
Not really.
706
00:36:51,409 --> 00:36:52,477
It wasn't arranged.
707
00:36:52,477 --> 00:36:53,978
ROBERT STACK: He had
a rock-solid alibi
708
00:36:53,978 --> 00:36:56,181
for the day Gail vanished.
709
00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:58,583
So did all the other men
the police questioned.
710
00:36:58,583 --> 00:36:59,417
You're next.
711
00:37:03,288 --> 00:37:06,491
ROBERT STACK: The police
were totally baffled.
712
00:37:06,491 --> 00:37:08,827
Gail kept detailed records
of the men who responded
713
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:12,163
to her ads, yet there
was no record of a man
714
00:37:12,163 --> 00:37:13,264
named John in her files.
715
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:19,471
Who had called Gail and
talked for 2 and 1/2 hours
716
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:21,139
the night before
she disappeared?
717
00:37:21,139 --> 00:37:22,040
Yeah, yeah.
718
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,475
Right.
719
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:25,877
ROBERT STACK: Why were her
keys found in exactly the spot
720
00:37:25,877 --> 00:37:29,347
where her car had been parked?
721
00:37:29,347 --> 00:37:31,382
Why was Gail's purse
found on the other side
722
00:37:31,382 --> 00:37:33,985
of the restaurant,
apparently untouched,
723
00:37:33,985 --> 00:37:37,455
but with no money in it?
724
00:37:37,455 --> 00:37:39,691
Were the keys and purse
thrown where they lay
725
00:37:39,691 --> 00:37:41,759
by someone who attacked Gail?
726
00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:45,263
Or is it possible Gail placed
the keys and purse herself?
727
00:37:47,899 --> 00:37:50,034
2:35 This Sunday morning--
728
00:37:50,034 --> 00:37:52,036
ROBERT STACK: A new theory
about Gail's disappearance
729
00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:54,672
emerged when police interviewed
a local late-night disc jockey.
730
00:37:54,672 --> 00:37:55,573
--for being with us.
731
00:37:55,573 --> 00:37:58,209
We're WIGY.
732
00:37:58,209 --> 00:38:00,779
CHRISTIN ROY: I was working the
overnight at this radio station
733
00:38:00,779 --> 00:38:03,148
and Gail would call
sometime after 1 o'clock
734
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:06,217
in the morning just to talk
and to go on in general
735
00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:09,721
about life experiences.
736
00:38:09,721 --> 00:38:13,792
And then Gayle finally asked
if I would like to meet her.
737
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:16,594
Gail always seemed
to be very, very sad
738
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:20,165
or depressed almost to the
point of not being able to move.
739
00:38:20,165 --> 00:38:24,936
Always you felt that Gail was
just going to perhaps give up
740
00:38:24,936 --> 00:38:29,407
at any moment, just cease to
exist, disappear, literally,
741
00:38:29,407 --> 00:38:30,275
sitting there on the couch.
742
00:38:33,178 --> 00:38:35,680
ROBERT STACK: For years, Gail
had struggled with depression
743
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,583
and had been on
medication for it.
744
00:38:38,583 --> 00:38:40,919
Several times, she had
considered taking her own life
745
00:38:40,919 --> 00:38:44,489
and had talked about
it with her sister.
746
00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:46,291
Gail's family
reluctantly considered
747
00:38:46,291 --> 00:38:48,293
whether her disappearance
might have been a suicide.
748
00:38:51,029 --> 00:38:54,098
I don't feel that Gail
committed suicide because I
749
00:38:54,098 --> 00:38:56,501
don't believe that she
would ever have left
750
00:38:56,501 --> 00:39:00,305
and left us to go
through this kind of pain
751
00:39:00,305 --> 00:39:02,440
and not knowing if she's
out there somewhere.
752
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,676
I think that she definitely
doesn't know who she is
753
00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:07,412
and that would be,
of course, our best
754
00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:08,980
scenario is that she's
out there somewhere
755
00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:09,781
and that we can find her.
756
00:39:13,384 --> 00:39:14,986
ROBERT STACK: With the
help of truck drivers,
757
00:39:14,986 --> 00:39:17,155
Gail's fairly distributed
missing posters
758
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:18,890
throughout the
eastern United States.
759
00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:24,128
Over a year after
Gail disappeared,
760
00:39:24,128 --> 00:39:26,564
a truck driver spotted
her missing poster
761
00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:30,201
in a Georgia truckstop.
762
00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:33,671
DAN BRADFORD: On
Friday, August 14, 1987,
763
00:39:33,671 --> 00:39:35,506
I received a phone
call in the evening
764
00:39:35,506 --> 00:39:39,944
from a man named John Scott
of Swansea, South Carolina.
765
00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:42,547
Earlier that day he
had seen a missing
766
00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:45,717
person's poster of Gail DeLano.
767
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:49,120
He recognized that woman as
one that he had given a ride
768
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,324
to several months earlier.
769
00:39:53,324 --> 00:39:54,826
JOHN SCOTT: I was
with her somewhere
770
00:39:54,826 --> 00:39:57,395
in the neighborhood of 24 hours.
771
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,631
She didn't talk too much.
772
00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:04,035
But she had that northern
accent pretty bad.
773
00:40:04,035 --> 00:40:07,305
You could tell she
was from up north.
774
00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:10,041
She was sort of a
neat type of woman.
775
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,644
And mostly you catch
these regular hitchhikers,
776
00:40:12,644 --> 00:40:14,579
I'd call them, in
truckstop [inaudible].
777
00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:15,813
They don't care how they dress.
778
00:40:15,813 --> 00:40:17,215
You don't have to go.
779
00:40:17,215 --> 00:40:20,151
But this woman was
dressed pretty neat.
780
00:40:20,151 --> 00:40:22,453
You could tell she was
different than the regular one,
781
00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:23,888
you know what I'm talking about?
782
00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:27,325
You can't travel on the
road without any money.
783
00:40:27,325 --> 00:40:29,127
You take that $20.
784
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:32,363
JOE MALLET: I asked him, did
he notice anything about her--
785
00:40:32,363 --> 00:40:34,799
whether she was on medication,
or took any medication,
786
00:40:34,799 --> 00:40:36,834
or anything of this sort.
787
00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:39,037
He did notice some pill
bottles, but he had
788
00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:41,572
no idea what might be in them.
789
00:40:41,572 --> 00:40:44,909
My next question to him was
how sure he felt that this
790
00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:45,843
was, in fact, Gail DeLano.
791
00:40:45,843 --> 00:40:47,178
Leno
792
00:40:47,178 --> 00:40:49,747
I would bet money on
it that that was her.
793
00:40:53,985 --> 00:40:55,386
ROBERT STACK: The
truck driver's story
794
00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:59,424
suggested another
possibility, that Gail
795
00:40:59,424 --> 00:41:01,125
had engineered her
own disappearance
796
00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:02,527
from the Brunswick restaurant.
797
00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:09,434
JOE MALLET: Gail could have
told the children that she
798
00:41:09,434 --> 00:41:11,836
was going to a restaurant
to meet a gentleman
799
00:41:11,836 --> 00:41:13,905
by the name of John.
800
00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:19,477
Gail could have easily driven to
the restaurant, parked her car,
801
00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:22,814
either concealed the key
somewhere under the car
802
00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:29,087
or merely tossed them under
the car, stating to herself
803
00:41:29,087 --> 00:41:32,023
she was going to
give up her identity,
804
00:41:32,023 --> 00:41:34,525
throw the purse
in the shrubbery,
805
00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,362
and either catch a ride
with somebody leaving
806
00:41:37,362 --> 00:41:39,964
the restaurant area or
perhaps even a truck
807
00:41:39,964 --> 00:41:41,165
driver leaving the area.
808
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,434
The Gail DeLano
I met did not seem
809
00:41:43,434 --> 00:41:46,771
to have it together enough or
brave enough or sure of herself
810
00:41:46,771 --> 00:41:48,773
enough to just
pack it up and head
811
00:41:48,773 --> 00:41:50,475
for another part of the
country without telling
812
00:41:50,475 --> 00:41:52,777
anyone what she was doing.
813
00:41:52,777 --> 00:41:55,847
They couldn't even get Gail
DeLano to go for a Sunday drive
814
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:58,983
or out to a restaurant
or for an ice cream,
815
00:41:58,983 --> 00:42:00,952
and I really cannot
picture Gail DeLano as just
816
00:42:00,952 --> 00:42:03,087
getting in a car and
just going to the other
817
00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:05,123
side of the country.
818
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:06,758
She could just
as well have thrown
819
00:42:06,758 --> 00:42:10,528
her hands up and said, the heck
with it all, and just took off.
820
00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:12,697
But what we're afraid
of is that she's
821
00:42:12,697 --> 00:42:15,933
out there wandering around,
possibly not knowing
822
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:19,937
who she is, need our help.
823
00:42:19,937 --> 00:42:23,408
I want her to know that if she's
well and happy-- and I pray
824
00:42:23,408 --> 00:42:27,145
she is-- she doesn't
have to come home.
825
00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:29,280
She doesn't even have
to call if she'll just
826
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,718
let somebody know that
she's alive so that we
827
00:42:33,718 --> 00:42:35,853
can put ourselves at peace.
828
00:42:40,925 --> 00:42:42,860
ROBERT STACK: Gail's parents
are no closer to the truth
829
00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:46,798
than on the day their
daughter disappeared.
830
00:42:46,798 --> 00:42:48,699
Was she the victim of foul play?
831
00:42:48,699 --> 00:42:54,105
Or is she wandering somewhere,
unaware of her own identity?
832
00:42:54,105 --> 00:42:55,706
Or could the blind
date with John
833
00:42:55,706 --> 00:42:59,410
merely have been an elaborate
ruse Gail concocted to cover up
834
00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:00,478
her own disappearance?
835
00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:07,118
GAIL DELANO (VOICEOVER):
"The only thing I want
836
00:43:07,118 --> 00:43:10,588
is to find a man
to share my life.
837
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:15,860
I know I'm lonely and tired
of doing it all by myself.
838
00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:18,896
Time is becoming
a big enemy to me.
839
00:43:18,896 --> 00:43:23,201
To say it passes
slowly is a laugh.
840
00:43:23,201 --> 00:43:25,870
For me, it seems to stand still.
841
00:43:29,107 --> 00:43:31,375
ROBERT STACK: Update,
Mobile, Alabama.
842
00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:34,979
A two-and-a-half-year search for
Gail DeLano has come to an end.
843
00:43:34,979 --> 00:43:37,048
Tragically, she
took her own life
844
00:43:37,048 --> 00:43:40,485
shortly after she disappeared.
845
00:43:40,485 --> 00:43:43,821
A forensic administrator in
Mobile watched our program
846
00:43:43,821 --> 00:43:47,125
and recognized Gail's photo
as a woman who had died
847
00:43:47,125 --> 00:43:50,962
in a local hotel room in 1986.
848
00:43:50,962 --> 00:43:53,965
CHUCK ELLIOTT: When
I saw the photograph,
849
00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:59,370
I immediately saw the
resemblance between Ms. DeLano
850
00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:03,107
and an unidentified
body that we had
851
00:44:03,107 --> 00:44:07,445
in our laboratory in Mobile.
852
00:44:07,445 --> 00:44:09,680
ROBERT STACK: After two
weeks of forensic tests,
853
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,984
positive identification
was made.
854
00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:15,386
Police now theorize that
Gail DeLano orchestrated
855
00:44:15,386 --> 00:44:16,921
her own disappearance.
856
00:44:16,921 --> 00:44:19,790
They believe that, after
she drove to the restaurant,
857
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:22,260
she hid her keys
somewhere on the car,
858
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:24,161
removed all the
money from her purse,
859
00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:28,065
discarded it, and
then flew to Alabama.
860
00:44:28,065 --> 00:44:29,867
That evening, she
checked into a hotel
861
00:44:29,867 --> 00:44:33,604
in Mobile, where she registered
under the name Jackie Stafford.
862
00:44:33,604 --> 00:44:36,474
Three days later, police
discovered her body.
863
00:44:36,474 --> 00:44:41,178
She had died from
a drug overdose.
864
00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:44,715
On November 11, Gail's family
held a memorial service
865
00:44:44,715 --> 00:44:49,187
for her in Brunswick, Maine.
866
00:44:49,187 --> 00:44:52,390
Gail's family showed remarkable
courage as, for two long years,
867
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:54,125
they searched for the truth.
868
00:44:54,125 --> 00:44:55,726
Her loss saddens us all.
869
00:44:55,726 --> 00:44:58,596
And to her parents and sons,
we send our deepest sympathy.
870
00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:11,542
For every mystery, someone,
somewhere knows the truth.
871
00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:13,644
Perhaps that
someone is watching.
872
00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:16,347
Perhaps it's you.
873
00:45:16,347 --> 00:45:19,917
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