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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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[music playing]
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Tonight, we'll examine
four new mysteries.
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Each one has been recreated in
detail, wherever possible using
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the actual participants
in the hope
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that someone watching
may know the truth.
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Join me.
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You may be able to
help solve a mystery.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
February 19, 1982.
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A quiet residential
community in the small city
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of Woonsocket, Rhode Island.
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On this day six years ago,
this peaceful New England town
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of 46,000 was
stunned by the most
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savage murder in its history.
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At approximately
3:30 PM, Doug Heath
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returned from work to his
apartment on Providence Street.
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As he walked
through the door, he
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found his neighbor's
three-year-old child locked
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out of her mother's apartment.
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DOUG HEATH
(VOICEOVER): When I saw
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Nicole standing on the
stairs, I knew immediately
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something was wrong.
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Where's mommy?
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DOUG HEATH (VOICEOVER): I
asked her where her mother was,
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and she told me that she
was downstairs, lying down.
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I tried the door
into the first floor
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apartment, their apartment.
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It was locked.
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I know something was
wrong right there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Doug
went down to the laundry room
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to check on her
mother, Susan Laferte.
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DOUG HEATH (VOICEOVER):
I saw a body
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leaned up against the dryer.
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In the same instant,
I turned to my left
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and I saw Sue lying face
down in a puddle of blood.
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It hit me right then and there
that the murder, or something
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really bad had happened.
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[police sirens]
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DOUG CONNELL: When rescue
arrived at the scene along
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with the first officers, they
found that two women had been
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brutally assaulted
in a basement area
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of the Province Street home.
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And for all intents and
purposes had been left for dead.
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One woman expired at the scene,
and the other one was in very,
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very critical condition.
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Rescue stabilized her
the best that they could
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and transported her from the
scene to the hospital emergency
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room.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The two
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victims both lived in
the apartment building
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on Providence Street.
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22-Year-old Doreen Picard was
pronounced dead at the scene.
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The other woman,
27-year-old Susan Laferte,
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was barely alive.
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She was immediately
rushed to the hospital.
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Susan was in surgery
for 2 and 1/2 hours.
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While she clung to
life, her husband Ernie
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waited and prayed.
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ERNIE LAFERTE: The
way they described it,
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she was hanging by a thread.
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Her injuries were so severe that
it was touch and go at a time.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Miraculously, Susan survived.
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But she remained in a deep coma.
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Fearful for her
safety, the police
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guarded her room
around the clock.
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DOUG CONNELL (VOICEOVER):
It was obvious to us
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that the perpetrator,
in his mind,
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had left both girls for dead.
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We immediately became
worried that he would realize
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that there was a
witness to the attack,
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and that he would come
back and try to eliminate
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that witness by killing her.
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We were hopeful that when
she came out of the coma,
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she would be able to tell us
who it was that had done this.
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30 days later, Susan
finally emerged from her coma.
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But she had no memory of
her attack or her attacker.
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She developed total
amnesia about what
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happened during the brutal
assault in the basement.
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She had also sustained
injuries that have
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left her physically disabled.
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Susan's amnesia sent
the investigation
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of the seemingly motiveless
crime back to square one.
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SUSAN LAFERTE: Everyone expected
me to wake up and tell them
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who attacked me
and killed Doreen.
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I don't know who attacked us.
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I have no idea.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Even now, Susan's family
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is concerned for her safety,
and she has requested that she
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not be identified on camera.
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When I woke up
out of the coma,
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I would be able to tell them.
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It's five years later and I'm
no closer at this period of time
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than I was five years ago.
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I don't know what he looked
like, or anything else
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about him.
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I have no memory
whatsoever of the attack.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Six
years later, the police are
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still searching for a motive.
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Susan Laferte was a housewife
with two young children
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and was an active member
of her neighborhood watch.
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Doreen Picard was
studying for a career
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in childhood development.
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She lived upstairs in
the apartment building
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that the Lafertes owned.
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Ironically, she was packing
to move to a new building
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on the very day of the attack.
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Like Susan, Doreen's
parents desperately
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want to find an answer as to
who killed their daughter.
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We go to bed
thinking about her,
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and we wake up
thinking about her.
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You know, we have to keep
pushing and knocking on doors
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because I feel like there's
somebody out there that has
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a missing piece to that puzzle.
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I have no
recollection whatsoever
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of basically from New Year's
Eve to the 19th of February.
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The 19th totally is a blackout.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On February 19,
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the day of the attack,
Susan had lunch
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with her sister, Carol Rivet.
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[doorbell]
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I'll get that.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At 1:30,
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two friends came to the door.
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SUSAN LAFERTE: Hi.
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(MALE VOICE): How you doing?
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My sister came
back from the doorway
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and stuck her head in the
parlor, and said, Carol,
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I'm going downstairs.
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I'll be right back.
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She came back upstairs, and
I could hear her talking
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to somebody in the doorway.
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So I got up to go see
who she was talking to.
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[interposing voices]
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I knew one of the guys, but
the other guy, I didn't know.
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And she introduced me to him.
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And this is the guy
that's getting me--
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The two men
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then went to the basement
to look at some puppies
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that Susan was selling.
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Susan talked to the men for
five minutes, and they left.
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10 minutes later, at
1:45, Carol went home.
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That was the last time anyone
saw Susan before the attack.
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No one can be sure what happened
that day between 1:45 and 3:20,
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when Doug Heath discovered
Susan and Doreen's bodies.
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How are you making out?
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All right.
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DOUG CONNELL: I have
to admit that I was
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shocked by the initial scene.
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The brutality of the assault.
It was not just a murder.
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It was not just an assault.
It was a frenzied attack.
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It was an overkill.
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OK, 15 minutes?
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OK.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Only
one person apart from Susan
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saw the killer.
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Nicole, Susan's three-year-old
daughter, was in the apartment
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that afternoon.
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Her grandmother,
Florence Laferte,
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tried to coax the details
of the attacker's identity
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out of Nicole's memory.
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FLORENCE LAFERTE: As I came in
the house and Nicole was there.
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And from the very beginning,
she told me that she let him in.
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She thought that was
her mother's friend.
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Hi.
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FLORENCE LAFERTE:
She saw the man.
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She says he was probably a
little bigger than her father.
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He had a mustache.
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She even told me that he
wore a cap with the visor
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towards the back.
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He had sneakers, and
he also had jeans.
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When she heard her mother
crying, she went downstairs
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and as she was going
down, he was coming up.
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He had a rag in his back pocket.
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It was red and white,
she called it polka dots.
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And then she was locked
out in the hallway
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while the man escaped
through the front.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The killer
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left his murder weapon, a
pipe, in the house as he left.
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It was not found for four days.
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DOUG CONNELL (VOICEOVER):
After the assault,
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Nicole was questioned
extensively
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by the police department.
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As much as the police would like
to have a person who definitely
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saw the perpetrator that day,
her story has changed too much
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to be of real value to us.
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The stress and confusion that
she was under at that point
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in time really made it
very difficult to get
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a real solid, sure story.
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It's a complex case because of
the different factors involved.
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First, we have two victims.
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And those victims all bring
their individual traits
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with them.
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They have their own
friends, they were
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involved in different things.
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There was also two newspaper
ads that had been running.
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One was for puppies
for sale, and the other
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was for an apartment for rent.
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The perpetrator might have
responded to one of the ads,
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was a friend of either one of
the victims, or their family,
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or was just a total stranger.
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[phone ringing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Since the murder,
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Doreen's family has
conducted their own informal
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investigation, which they
believe has led to a series
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of anonymous phone calls.
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Hello?
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RON PICARD: A few months after
Doreen was killed I received
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a phone call about 2:00 a.m.
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He said that I
should be concerned
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with my family and
my children, and not
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pursue the matter so hard.
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And that for openers, they
might burn my garage down.
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My repair shop.
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Every time we pursue the
matter, we get phone calls.
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Obviously, we're
putting somebody uneasy.
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We're keeping
somebody off guard.
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You know, it's
like a nightmare.
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Because I'm watching over
my shoulder all the time.
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And I'm very fearful for
Susan because maybe someday,
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this person's going
to realize that hey,
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maybe she can remember.
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I still hope
every morning when
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I get up that maybe
today, something will snap
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and it will come back.
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But it's been five years, and
it's still not-- I'm no closer
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now than I was five years ago.
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I'm hurt.
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I don't look over my
shoulder when I do things,
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but I've always got
this back thought.
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Is he still there?
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[music playing]
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Next, a story of a man who
makes his living by getting
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married over and over.
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He is known as the
Heart Attacker.
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And so far, he has
fleeced his many wives
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of over a million dollars.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
New York City, 1981.
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Louis Carlucci arrived in
the suburb of Forest Hills,
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carrying nothing but a garment
bag with his one good suit
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in it.
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In this affluent community,
he was a stranger.
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A man without a past.
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He found work as a short
order cook in a diner,
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but no one knew
where he came from.
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Good evening!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In September 1981,
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Louis Carlucci met a 41-year-old
woman, whom we will call
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Barbara, in a neighborhood bar.
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Speak now, or forever
hold your peace.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Seven
weeks later, he married her.
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Me What Barbara didn't
know is that Louis
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Carlucci is a con man.
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He makes his living by
stealing women's hearts,
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and then their money.
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Carlucci is suspected
of marrying at least
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nine different wives,
and fathering over 30
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children around the country.
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He is said to have
swindled his victims out
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of more than $1 million.
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Louis Carlucci is known as Con
Juan, or the Heart Attacker.
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When you try to explain
to someone what happened,
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they look at you
and say, well how
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could you get taken like that?
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And then you find out there
are 500 other people that
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were taken the same
way, who were supposed
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to be as brilliant or smart--
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Barbara
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was the only one of Carlucci's
victims who would talk to us.
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She asked that she not
be identified on camera,
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and at one time she feared
reprisals from Carlucci.
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But the fact that he's
still roaming someplace
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in the United States and
getting away with this
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is a terrible thought.
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Barbara's telling
her story tonight
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because she wants to warn other
women about Louis Carlucci.
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The police are convinced
that Carlucci is perpetrating
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the same con game on
some unsuspecting woman
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at this very moment.
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Tonight, we'll see
exactly how Carlucci
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perpetrated his schemes, which
police call marriage swindles.
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Carlucci usually finds
his victims in restaurants
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and friendship clubs.
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Excuse me, hi.
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BARBARA (VOICEOVER): I
was out with a friend,
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and we were sitting and having a
drink, and he sent over drinks.
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And got to talking.
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And that's how we first met.
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And I know for
a fact that I've
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never seen you here before.
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First impression,
when I first saw him?
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No style, no class.
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However, he was
warm, very friendly.
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He had a good sense of humor.
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So I started dating him.
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I thought, well, he
was a pretty nice guy.
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He told me he grew up in the
Bronx, that he traveled a lot.
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That he was in the
restaurant business.
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And he wanted to settle
down, and that he
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could give me everything that
anybody could really want.
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And I said, OK.
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The guy is pretty nice, I
like him, I liked his company.
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And I thought, well, why not?
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By the power vested in me
by the state of New York,
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I now pronounce
you man and wife.
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You may now kiss the bride.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After
a whirlwind courtship lasting
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only seven weeks,
Barbara married
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Louis Carlucci in
a small ceremony
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at the bar where
they'd first met.
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Immediately after the
wedding, their relationship
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began to deteriorate.
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[interposing voices]
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BARBARA (VOICEOVER): He kind
of jumped on me for talking
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to other people at the wedding.
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And he got very
angry about the idea,
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possibly, that we
even got married.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After the honeymoon,
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they moved into an unfinished
apartment in New York
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where they lived
out of suitcases.
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Carlucci would not let
Barbara out of his sight,
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and paid for their
living expenses
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with Barbara's credit cards.
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BARBARA (VOICEOVER): The
change in his attitude
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and his personality shocked
me, because there were
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times when he was real nice.
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And then all of a
sudden, he'd flip
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and it would be like
black and white.
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Jekyll and Hyde, I don't
know how you want to put it.
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And then I get scared.
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I really got scared.
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Because I realized [inaudible]
I didn't have what he
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thought I had, which was money.
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The man was very physical.
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If you ever pull that again--
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BARBARA (VOICEOVER): I
couldn't turn my head.
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He'd pull my hair.
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If I looked the wrong
way, I'd get smacked.
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Of course, I couldn't
talk to anyone at all.
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And if we were in a restaurant,
I couldn't even order anything
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from the waitress
because he felt
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like I was looking at the
person to signal, or whatever.
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- Can I get you some dessert?
- No, thank you.
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Just the check.
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Ma'am?
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Just the check.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Carlucci continued
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to put the bite on Barbara.
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He used her credit
cards up to their limit,
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emptied her bank account.
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And when they went out together,
he always used Barbara's money.
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Carlucci bled Barbara dry.
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I was just held captive--
let's put it that way--
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for about six months.
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Did Never let me
out of his sight.
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Not one time.
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I couldn't go to the bathroom
without him being there.
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So I had no way of
trying to contact anyone,
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or telling anyone
about anything.
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BARBARA (VOICEOVER): He
caught me with the razor.
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I was going to cut my
wrists because that was
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the only way I could get out.
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He knew that I was going to
die, whether I did it myself,
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or I would just
waste away and die.
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So his reaction was, well,
I may as well let you
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go because you're going to die.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On
May 31, 1982, almost six months
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after their wedding, Louis
Carlucci left Barbara, having
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squandered all of her savings.
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A total of $20,000.
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Encouraged by her
friends, Barbara
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filed charges with the police.
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KEN KLEINLEIN: When
Barbara first came to us
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and gave us information
about Carlucci,
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we started our investigation
and began to talking
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to quite a few people.
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To speak to these women
was an eye opener for me.
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Carlucci doesn't just leave
physical and financial wreckage
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behind him.
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It's kind of a psychological
scarring that you see.
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And how long was it
between the time you were--
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KEN KLEINLEIN (VOICEOVER): They
feel embarrassed and ashamed,
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and they don't want their
relatives and friends
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and coworkers to know about it.
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I would like to see
this man get caught.
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He doesn't belong
out in society.
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And whether he will hurt anybody
very physically, I don't know.
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But he definitely has to
be taken off the streets.
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KEN KLEINLEIN (VOICEOVER):
He travels all over.
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We've had him in California,
Las Vegas, New Orleans, Florida,
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New Jersey, New York State.
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He moves around quite a bit.
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He's wanted for bigamy,
grand larceny, and fraud.
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I'd be very surprised
if at this moment,
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Carlucci was not with a woman.
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I'm sure he's been dealing with
maybe 10 or 15 women a year,
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at the very least,
because he's not
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going to stop what he's doing.
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This is the way he
makes his living.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Louis Carlucci
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has a dubious distinction
of being captured
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twice, thanks to viewers' tips.
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After we first broadcast
Carlucci's story,
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he was arrested in
Nashville, Tennessee.
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He was extradited
back to New York
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and later released on
$1,000 bail, pending trial.
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Once again, Carlucci
disappeared.
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And once again,
after we featured
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him on a second broadcast, a
viewer's tip led to his arrest.
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This time in Los Angeles.
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In a moment, the story of a
quiet church-going housewife
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who is accused of helping
a convicted murderer
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escape from prison.
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[music playing]
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[church singing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1986, Diane Brodbeck,
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a 43-year-old housewife, lived
in the small Pennsylvania
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town of Wellsville.
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She was a devout
Christian and had
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been active in her local
church for almost 20 years.
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On April 5, 1986, Diane
Brodbeck disappeared.
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A month later,
Dianne's abandoned car
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was found in a motel parking
lot 30 minutes from her home.
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In the trunk, the police
found Diane's overnight bag.
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The same day Diane vanished,
Jon Yount, a long-term inmate
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at a local prison escaped.
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Yount was serving a life
sentence for the brutal murder
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of an 18-year-old school girl.
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At the exact time
that he escaped,
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Diane Brodbeck was seen just
one half mile from the prison,
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driving along the same country
road where Jon Yount vanished.
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I don't know if Diane's alive.
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I hope she's alive.
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00:22:59,011 --> 00:23:01,013
I really do.
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I believe, personally,
that she is alive.
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And I think she is with Jon.
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Neither Jon Yount
or Diane Brodbeck have
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been seen for almost two years.
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The authorities believe
Diane may have been Yount's
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accomplice, and her
family is mystified
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as to why this apparently
respectable and happily married
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woman should have
vanished without a word.
448
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Was Diana kidnapped by
a desperate prisoner?
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Or was she a willing accomplice
who helped a convicted murderer
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escape?
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I know my daughter.
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She would not deliberately
help a convicted
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murderer escape from prison.
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My daughter would not do this.
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Yes, I think that my wife
probably did help Jon Yount get
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out of jail, under pressure.
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For what reason, I don't know.
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It's hard to say.
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She could have been
threatened by Jon Yount.
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I don't know what happened.
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I really don't.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Diane Brodbeck and her husband
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Chester had two
daughters, and had
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just celebrated their
silver wedding anniversary.
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Diane led a busy life.
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She had worked as a bank
manager, avidly pursued
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an interest in
psychology, and as one
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of her many
community activities,
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wrote letters to prisoners
who had no family or friends.
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In 1966, Jon Yount was a popular
math teacher at the high school
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in Dubois, Pennsylvania.
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On April 28, 1966,
Yount offered a ride
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to Pamela Sue Rimer,
one of his pupils,
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as she was walking
home from school.
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- Need a ride?
- No, no, really.
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That's OK.
477
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I only live right up the
road, right up there.
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Well, hop in.
I'll give you a ride.
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00:24:49,388 --> 00:24:50,789
- No, that's OK.
- No, no, I insist.
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Hop in.
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OK, all right.
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Thank you.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Later that afternoon,
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Pamela's school
books were discovered
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beside the country road.
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In the nearby woods,
searchers found her body.
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I think I see
something over there!
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): She had
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been beaten with
a wrench, raped,
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and her throat had been cut.
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The next day, Jon Yount
confessed to the murder
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of Pamela Sue Rimer.
493
00:25:25,324 --> 00:25:27,626
He was convicted of
first degree murder
494
00:25:27,626 --> 00:25:29,061
and sentenced to life in prison.
495
00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:41,507
16 years later, Jon began
writing to Diane Brodbeck.
496
00:25:41,507 --> 00:25:44,376
JON YOUNT (VOICEOVER):
Hi, my precious lady.
497
00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:47,846
I wanted you to be close
to me so much today.
498
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:50,849
I hope my enjoyment
and adoration of you
499
00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:53,652
is an incentive to
be the best you can.
500
00:25:53,652 --> 00:25:56,355
You are a classy lady.
501
00:25:56,355 --> 00:25:59,758
I miss you and love you.
502
00:25:59,758 --> 00:26:02,161
Jon.
503
00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,730
FAYE SNIDER: Diane met Jon
through a friend of hers
504
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:06,265
who had been visiting Jon.
505
00:26:06,265 --> 00:26:09,368
And she was no
longer able to do it.
506
00:26:09,368 --> 00:26:12,838
And Diane had been corresponding
with prisoners in other states,
507
00:26:12,838 --> 00:26:15,774
and she thought this would be
like a continuation of what she
508
00:26:15,774 --> 00:26:17,976
had been doing, and
it would be a very
509
00:26:17,976 --> 00:26:20,679
fulfilling thing for her to do.
510
00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:24,516
She was just always
thinking of other people.
511
00:26:24,516 --> 00:26:25,818
She really was a people person.
512
00:26:29,488 --> 00:26:31,690
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After 20 years behind bars,
513
00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:35,360
Jon Yount had become
a model prisoner.
514
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,465
He played organ for the choir,
mastered computer programming,
515
00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:41,333
and taught in the prison school.
516
00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:43,068
JOSEPH MAZURKIEWICZ
(VOICEOVER): Around here, it was
517
00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:45,871
very easy for him to be liked.
518
00:26:45,871 --> 00:26:49,107
And he had a real
good manner about him,
519
00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:51,577
in terms of getting
involved with people.
520
00:26:51,577 --> 00:26:52,578
OK, class.
521
00:26:52,578 --> 00:26:54,279
If you would open
your books to page
522
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,815
69, the bottom of the page.
523
00:26:56,815 --> 00:26:58,517
JOSEPH MAZURKIEWICZ: Jon
is a strong willed person,
524
00:26:58,517 --> 00:27:00,052
and very persuasive.
525
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:01,787
I believe that he
could probably persuade
526
00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:04,890
almost anybody, given
the right opportunity,
527
00:27:04,890 --> 00:27:07,626
and given the right time.
528
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,562
He has a lot of skill in being
able to manipulate people.
529
00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:14,800
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Diane began visiting Yount
530
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,036
at the local jail, and
continued to see him even
531
00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:20,606
when he was transferred
to Rockview Prison
532
00:27:20,606 --> 00:27:21,840
over two hours away.
533
00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:27,246
WALTER REGEL: Diane came to
see Jon Yount every week.
534
00:27:27,246 --> 00:27:28,146
She never missed.
535
00:27:28,146 --> 00:27:29,314
It was regular.
536
00:27:29,314 --> 00:27:32,017
It was just week after week.
537
00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:34,119
She was his
girlfriend, definitely.
538
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,523
It was not a casual visit like
a brother and sister visiting.
539
00:27:37,523 --> 00:27:40,993
When they started her visit,
they would embrace and kiss,
540
00:27:40,993 --> 00:27:42,828
and the same when they left.
541
00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:45,764
Which is really all that's
permitted during the visit.
542
00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:46,665
I'm fine.
543
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,867
I'm always fine when I see you.
544
00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:50,202
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Diane Brodbeck
545
00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:51,870
fell in love with Jon Yount.
546
00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:57,242
FAYE SNIDER: I had
no idea that they
547
00:27:57,242 --> 00:28:00,245
were romantically involved.
548
00:28:00,245 --> 00:28:04,116
It appeared to me that they
were simply very good friends.
549
00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:08,020
She never confided in me if
they were romantically involved.
550
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,492
CHESTER BRODBECK: Diane
talked about Jon Yount.
551
00:28:13,492 --> 00:28:17,629
I know she was writing him,
I know she visited him.
552
00:28:17,629 --> 00:28:19,831
But that's about all.
553
00:28:19,831 --> 00:28:22,301
It was just a little
bit, as far as I knew.
554
00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:27,139
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jon Yount tried repeatedly
555
00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:29,241
to appeal his conviction.
556
00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:32,678
Finally, the United States
Supreme Court denied
557
00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:34,079
Yount's request for a retrial.
558
00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:42,354
In February, 1985, Jon
Yount wrote Diane again.
559
00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:44,823
JON YOUNT (VOICEOVER):
Be my valentine, love.
560
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:46,158
Forever.
561
00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:48,927
You are my heart.
562
00:28:48,927 --> 00:28:52,097
I hope more than anything that
this is the last Valentine
563
00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:53,665
Day that we will spend apart.
564
00:29:03,008 --> 00:29:04,843
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On April 5, 1986,
565
00:29:04,843 --> 00:29:06,178
Jon Yount escaped.
566
00:29:10,882 --> 00:29:12,684
Yount's excellent
behavior had earned
567
00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:14,786
him the right to
work unsupervised
568
00:29:14,786 --> 00:29:18,023
outside the prison fence.
569
00:29:18,023 --> 00:29:20,859
JOSEPH MAZURKIEWICZ (VOICEOVER):
On the morning of the escape,
570
00:29:20,859 --> 00:29:24,262
Jon was to go out
and cut some hay.
571
00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:25,664
Well all you have
to do is take this hay
572
00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:27,265
wagon down to the
garden barn, and I'll
573
00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:28,533
be back in a little bit.
574
00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:29,668
JOSEPH MAZURKIEWICZ (VOICEOVER):
He was told specifically
575
00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,703
by the supervisor what
he was supposed to do,
576
00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:34,172
took the other men to
their particular areas,
577
00:29:34,172 --> 00:29:34,973
and then made his rounds.
578
00:29:39,077 --> 00:29:40,679
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
That was the last time
579
00:29:40,679 --> 00:29:44,449
Jon Yount was ever seen.
580
00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:46,218
I was on the way up
over Richel Hill there,
581
00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:49,354
headed for the bowling alley.
582
00:29:49,354 --> 00:29:51,289
And I seen this car
come down, and I just
583
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:53,225
casually looked
over, and I thought,
584
00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:54,793
that girl looks familiar.
585
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,729
Looks like Jon
Yount's girlfriend.
586
00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:01,533
So I thought to myself, what
is she doing on this road?
587
00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:03,135
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
That was the last time
588
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:06,138
Diane Brodbeck was ever seen.
589
00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:07,039
Mister Brodbeck?
590
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:08,373
Yes sir.
591
00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:10,008
I'm Sergeant Dugger from
the Pennsylvania State Police.
592
00:30:10,008 --> 00:30:11,410
This is Trooper Robert Scutta.
593
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:13,045
Yes sir.
594
00:30:13,045 --> 00:30:16,314
I'd like to talk to you
about Jon Yount and your wife.
595
00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:17,716
Are you familiar with Jon Yount?
596
00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:19,418
CHESTER BRODBECK: When the
troopers came to my door
597
00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:23,221
on Sunday, wanting to
know where my wife was,
598
00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:26,925
saying that Yount
had been broken out
599
00:30:26,925 --> 00:30:30,062
of prison by someone, and
they were thinking it was her,
600
00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,631
as far as I was concerned,
they were completely wrong.
601
00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:34,966
She had nothing to do with it.
602
00:30:34,966 --> 00:30:38,136
I thought that she had gone
to Williamsburg, Virginia.
603
00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:41,373
And I believed that
until Monday or Tuesday
604
00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:44,176
when she did not return.
605
00:30:44,176 --> 00:30:45,377
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The police
606
00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:48,313
discovered that Diane had
a secret bank account,
607
00:30:48,313 --> 00:30:51,116
and had withdrawn
$7,500 in the weeks
608
00:30:51,116 --> 00:30:52,751
just before she disappeared.
609
00:30:57,055 --> 00:31:01,393
We discovered that she also
placed a car into a use storage
610
00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:05,063
facility, and that car was
placed in there within two
611
00:31:05,063 --> 00:31:08,600
weeks prior to the escape.
612
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,836
And we discovered that
there was telephone
613
00:31:10,836 --> 00:31:16,408
contact with Jon Yount between
she and he at the prison.
614
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:19,177
The night before the escape,
there was a 14 minute
615
00:31:19,177 --> 00:31:21,780
conversation which occurred.
616
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:24,116
At that point in
time, we decided
617
00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:28,420
to file charges against
her in assisting Jon Yount.
618
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:31,990
I do not believe that Diane
deliberately helped a convicted
619
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:34,025
murderer escape from prison.
620
00:31:34,025 --> 00:31:36,128
She was a very
moral person, and you
621
00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,396
just did not do certain things.
622
00:31:38,396 --> 00:31:41,700
She had a very strong
code of ethics.
623
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,936
And certainly, helping
a prisoner escape
624
00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:46,404
was not among them.
625
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,308
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): A month
626
00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:55,013
after the escape, Diane's car
was found abandoned at a motel
627
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:57,582
just 20 miles from her home.
628
00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,885
A bag was found in
the trunk, containing
629
00:31:59,885 --> 00:32:01,820
Diane's personal items.
630
00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:06,591
Jewelry, cosmetics, and over
a dozen pairs of underwear.
631
00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:10,428
There is a theory
that Jon used Diane
632
00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:11,897
as an instrument of his escape.
633
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,369
He discovers that
he's not going to get
634
00:32:17,369 --> 00:32:19,905
out of the prison system.
635
00:32:19,905 --> 00:32:24,609
He has a woman on the outside
who can do things for him.
636
00:32:24,609 --> 00:32:28,280
She does them, he
then kills her.
637
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,715
He departs from the scene.
638
00:32:30,715 --> 00:32:34,186
He would be gone,
free and clear.
639
00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:36,688
The other theory is that
she really loved him,
640
00:32:36,688 --> 00:32:39,024
and he really loved her.
641
00:32:39,024 --> 00:32:41,359
That theory is one that I hold.
642
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:42,594
I believe she is with him.
643
00:32:45,864 --> 00:32:49,167
Well, my wife has run
off with another man.
644
00:32:49,167 --> 00:32:51,670
For sure, I do not like
it, that's for sure.
645
00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:53,705
You know?
646
00:32:53,705 --> 00:32:57,275
We were married for 25
years, and I thought
647
00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:59,110
they were fairly good years.
648
00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:02,781
And as I told many people,
she didn't leave just me.
649
00:33:02,781 --> 00:33:05,450
She left the whole family.
650
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:07,686
I don't think she's alive.
651
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:09,721
Because I think if
she is, she would
652
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:14,259
contact somebody in the family.
653
00:33:14,259 --> 00:33:18,263
I will never even think that
she is dead I know she's alive.
654
00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:26,238
I think of nothing else
but my missing daughter.
655
00:33:26,238 --> 00:33:29,207
And I want her back.
656
00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:33,278
Jon Yount murdered a high
school girl at one time.
657
00:33:33,278 --> 00:33:38,850
He flew off the handle at that
time and could do it again.
658
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:42,721
I think she should
fear for her life.
659
00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:47,058
I think at some point in
time, Jon can kill again.
660
00:33:47,058 --> 00:33:48,260
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Update.
661
00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:51,763
John Yount and Diane
Brodbeck have been captured.
662
00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:53,999
Two of our viewers
in Boise, Idaho
663
00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:58,370
recognized Brodbeck as a
former coworker, Kathy Kerman.
664
00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:00,105
When they showed the
picture, it was Kathy's face.
665
00:34:00,105 --> 00:34:01,473
Obviously.
666
00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:03,275
And once they said
she was a bank manager
667
00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:04,609
and was from
Massachusetts, and they
668
00:34:04,609 --> 00:34:07,812
said that Jon's background
was in computers,
669
00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:10,849
it was a dead giveaway.
670
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:12,784
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Humphreys called the FBI,
671
00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:15,152
and after a month
long investigation,
672
00:34:15,152 --> 00:34:18,155
the fugitive couple was
arrested at their home.
673
00:34:18,156 --> 00:34:19,623
He seemed a little
surprised for a minute,
674
00:34:19,623 --> 00:34:21,225
and then he put his
hands up in the area.
675
00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:23,495
He didn't look around
or anything, really.
676
00:34:23,495 --> 00:34:24,996
I think he had his eyes
on the guy with the gun.
677
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,876
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next,
the mystery of $21 million
678
00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:41,846
in gold and silver buried
somewhere in Virginia.
679
00:34:41,846 --> 00:34:44,282
It has eluded treasure
hunters for over a century.
680
00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:54,993
[music playing]
681
00:34:54,993 --> 00:34:59,931
(MALE VOICE): I have deposited
in the County of Bedford 5,100
682
00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:06,438
pounds of silver and 2,921
pounds of gold, securely
683
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:10,075
packed in iron pots
with iron covers.
684
00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:14,312
No difficulty will
be had in finding it.
685
00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:16,781
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1821, Thomas J. Beale
686
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:19,618
wrote of an enormous fortune
he buried in the hills
687
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,820
of Bedford County, Virginia.
688
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:27,158
According to legend, $21 million
in gold, silver, and jewels.
689
00:35:27,158 --> 00:35:29,461
For over 100 years,
treasure hunters
690
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,296
have been combing the
countryside looking
691
00:35:31,296 --> 00:35:33,632
for Beale's buried hoard.
692
00:35:33,632 --> 00:35:35,767
No one has found it.
693
00:35:35,767 --> 00:35:39,204
The amount of gold and silver
that was supposed to have been
694
00:35:39,204 --> 00:35:41,606
deposited, and it
was two deposits,
695
00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:45,210
gave me an idea that you'd
have to have two wagons or more
696
00:35:45,210 --> 00:35:46,544
to bury it.
697
00:35:46,544 --> 00:35:51,750
These pots-- iron pots--
with silver and gold in them.
698
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,585
In coins.
699
00:35:53,585 --> 00:35:56,388
And I'm excited about getting
down to where it's at.
700
00:35:56,388 --> 00:35:58,356
Well, somebody will get lucky.
701
00:35:58,356 --> 00:36:00,725
Somebody will get lucky
and find it by mistake,
702
00:36:00,725 --> 00:36:02,861
or they'll find it because
they've really searched it out
703
00:36:02,861 --> 00:36:04,462
and know what to do with it.
704
00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:07,198
One way or the other,
I think it'll be found.
705
00:36:07,198 --> 00:36:08,566
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The legend
706
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:13,004
of Beale's fortune begins in
the early 1880s in New Mexico.
707
00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:15,640
Thomas Beale and a
team of 30 miners
708
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,843
dug up gold and silver
worth over $21 million
709
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:21,046
in today's prices.
710
00:36:21,046 --> 00:36:25,216
They brought the treasure to
Virginia where Beale buried it.
711
00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:28,787
He left written instructions
to the location of his fortune,
712
00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:32,557
in the form of three
secret codes, or ciphers.
713
00:36:32,557 --> 00:36:38,096
Then he went back to New
Mexico and disappeared.
714
00:36:38,096 --> 00:36:41,366
In 1869, a wealthy
Virginian solved
715
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:44,836
one of the three ciphers using
the Declaration of Independence
716
00:36:44,836 --> 00:36:46,237
as the key.
717
00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:48,206
He numbered the first
letter of every word
718
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,141
in the Declaration
of Independence.
719
00:36:50,141 --> 00:36:52,277
Then for each number
in the cipher,
720
00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:55,046
he substituted the
corresponding letter.
721
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,682
Decoded, the message read--
722
00:36:57,682 --> 00:37:00,118
(MALE VOICE): I have deposited
in the County of Bedford
723
00:37:00,118 --> 00:37:03,321
in an excavation
or vault six feet
724
00:37:03,321 --> 00:37:09,794
below the surface of the
ground, 5,100 pounds of silver
725
00:37:09,794 --> 00:37:11,663
and 2,921--
726
00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:12,797
ROBERT STACK: Beale
then describes
727
00:37:12,797 --> 00:37:15,900
the treasure in detail.
728
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,069
For over 100 years,
the other two
729
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:20,505
ciphers have remained unsolved.
730
00:37:20,505 --> 00:37:23,208
One lists Thomas Beale's
associates and heirs.
731
00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:28,379
And this one pinpoints the
exact location of the treasure.
732
00:37:28,379 --> 00:37:31,082
Whoever decodes it may
find Beale's fortunes,
733
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:36,154
stored in a secret vault roughly
the size of two Rolls Royce's.
734
00:37:36,154 --> 00:37:38,556
In this next mystery,
we'll join several treasure
735
00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:42,827
hunters, some of whom say
they have broken the cipher.
736
00:37:42,827 --> 00:37:44,662
They are convinced
that sooner or later,
737
00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:48,967
someone will strike it rich.
738
00:37:48,967 --> 00:37:51,269
Two brothers, Eddie
and Joe Toney,
739
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,004
and their father-in-law
Earl Boggs,
740
00:37:53,004 --> 00:37:56,407
have spent nine years
searching for the treasure.
741
00:37:56,407 --> 00:37:58,276
They say they have
broken the cipher,
742
00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:01,679
and that the message tells of
five geographical points where
743
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:06,885
167 years ago, Thomas Beale
left the clues which one by one
744
00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:10,421
would lead to his fortune.
745
00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:12,056
The Toney brothers
are currently looking
746
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:15,193
for the fifth and final
point, which is the clue that
747
00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:17,495
will lead them to the vault.
748
00:38:17,495 --> 00:38:19,330
EDDIE TONEY: We only have
one more point to go,
749
00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:22,100
and we've verified,
each place we
750
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:25,303
found something that he left.
751
00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:30,441
And degrees and the footage
and paces came out exactly.
752
00:38:30,441 --> 00:38:32,877
If we can't find this fifth
point after finding four,
753
00:38:32,877 --> 00:38:34,979
there's something bad wrong.
754
00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:36,681
I'm confident that
we'll find it.
755
00:38:46,124 --> 00:38:48,092
[beeping]
756
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:49,460
We got something!
757
00:38:59,871 --> 00:39:01,573
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Toney brothers
758
00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:04,642
believe this 19th
century carriage rod is
759
00:39:04,642 --> 00:39:06,411
the fifth clue in their search.
760
00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:07,946
They think that it
was purposefully
761
00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:12,517
buried by Beale, pointing in the
direction of his secret vault.
762
00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:15,520
EDDIE TONEY: We know what
the last degree is to go.
763
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,191
I'm a little shaky right
now on account of it
764
00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:24,596
because I know there's not
enough time today to go do it.
765
00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:27,665
Well, when the metal detector
went off, I got excited.
766
00:39:27,665 --> 00:39:31,803
And it's hard to explain
how excited you do get.
767
00:39:31,803 --> 00:39:36,941
And you imagine the gold down
in there behind them rocks.
768
00:39:36,941 --> 00:39:41,479
And my heart felt like
it come up in my throat.
769
00:39:41,479 --> 00:39:42,780
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Meanwhile,
770
00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:45,416
miles away in a completely
different section of Bedford
771
00:39:45,416 --> 00:39:47,919
County, Wilbur Swift
from Garden Grove,
772
00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:50,688
California is also searching.
773
00:39:50,688 --> 00:39:53,992
He believes that he too
has broken the cipher,
774
00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:57,462
and has spent the last
year and $20,000 trying
775
00:39:57,462 --> 00:39:59,664
to find the Beale treasure.
776
00:39:59,664 --> 00:40:02,367
WILBER SWIFT: I'm a computer
programmer, to start with.
777
00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:05,169
So in my own personal
computer, I decided
778
00:40:05,169 --> 00:40:06,571
to try to decipher this.
779
00:40:06,571 --> 00:40:10,074
In about eight months time,
I was able to break the code.
780
00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:14,112
And it told me about a
specific type of rock
781
00:40:14,112 --> 00:40:15,947
that I was looking for.
782
00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:19,450
And I happened to locate
that specific type of rock,
783
00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:23,254
and there it is, right there.
784
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:28,259
It has a face on it,
and it has a head on it.
785
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:32,997
This is what the deciphered
code told me to look for.
786
00:40:32,997 --> 00:40:34,666
And then I said, OK.
787
00:40:34,666 --> 00:40:36,501
The treasure has to
be underneath it,
788
00:40:36,501 --> 00:40:38,770
because it said that's
where it was supposed to be.
789
00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:43,875
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Wilbur hired
790
00:40:43,875 --> 00:40:46,511
a local contractor,
Ken Dooley, to help
791
00:40:46,511 --> 00:40:49,314
him excavate under the rock.
792
00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:51,349
KEN DOOLEY: I have lived in
Bedford County all of my life.
793
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:55,887
And over the past 25 years,
I have dug for this treasure
794
00:40:55,887 --> 00:40:59,924
up here for about 20, 25 people.
795
00:40:59,924 --> 00:41:02,093
Most of them knew
exactly where it was,
796
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,028
and when talking
to them, they would
797
00:41:04,028 --> 00:41:07,966
be so uptight they just
couldn't hardly breathe, really.
798
00:41:07,966 --> 00:41:10,335
And when you start
digging for them,
799
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,603
they were always just
two feet away from it.
800
00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:13,938
I don't care how
deep in the ground
801
00:41:13,938 --> 00:41:17,775
you went, still, it was two
feet deep that what you dug.
802
00:41:20,578 --> 00:41:23,514
WILBER SWIFT: The target
was premeasured at 26 feet,
803
00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:26,451
and we're down right
now at about 24 feet.
804
00:41:26,451 --> 00:41:30,955
So we don't have too
much further to go.
805
00:41:30,955 --> 00:41:32,991
Now that we've found
the rock-- and we've
806
00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:36,060
done some extensive
testing, by the way--
807
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,162
and we're sure
that we're getting
808
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:40,331
the treasure out of there.
809
00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:43,067
I've been a native
here for 50 years.
810
00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:45,536
Born and raised here.
811
00:41:45,536 --> 00:41:48,139
They have searched and searched,
and I haven't seen anybody
812
00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:49,540
come up with anything yet.
813
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:50,942
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Bedford County's
814
00:41:50,942 --> 00:41:54,312
local residents have seen
diggers come and diggers go,
815
00:41:54,312 --> 00:41:55,546
empty handed.
816
00:41:55,546 --> 00:41:59,083
They're not convinced
there really is a treasure.
817
00:41:59,083 --> 00:42:00,852
It may be here.
818
00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:03,388
I may be sitting on it.
819
00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:04,822
I've got some land in
Thaxton over there.
820
00:42:04,822 --> 00:42:07,258
It may be on my spread.
821
00:42:07,258 --> 00:42:08,159
I don't know.
822
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:09,427
I hope it is.
823
00:42:09,427 --> 00:42:11,662
I say, I think it's an
outside possibility it might be
824
00:42:11,662 --> 00:42:14,265
a treasure somewhere
yet, but I don't
825
00:42:14,265 --> 00:42:16,434
think I believe enough in it
to go up and start digging.
826
00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:17,702
Dig
827
00:42:17,702 --> 00:42:21,639
They think they can break
that code, maybe they can.
828
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:23,674
I hope them good luck.
829
00:42:23,674 --> 00:42:26,377
But personally, I just
don't believe it's here.
830
00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:27,278
How are we doing, Carl?
831
00:42:27,278 --> 00:42:28,679
Oh, we are doing very well.
832
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:30,581
I'm down to the 19th line.
833
00:42:30,581 --> 00:42:32,850
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Could
the Beale ciphers be a hoax?
834
00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:35,553
A computer pioneer,
Dr. Carl Hammer,
835
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,355
has spent 30 years
studying Beale's
836
00:42:37,355 --> 00:42:42,160
numbers to determine if there
truly is a coded message.
837
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,295
As part of his
investigation, he attempted
838
00:42:44,295 --> 00:42:46,831
to recreate the conditions
under which Beale wrote
839
00:42:46,831 --> 00:42:50,902
the cipher in his computer lab.
840
00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:53,938
CARL HAMMER: My aim was to find
out whether the ciphers are
841
00:42:53,938 --> 00:42:56,240
real or whether they're a hoax.
842
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:57,975
Hoax means these
are random numbers.
843
00:42:57,975 --> 00:42:59,510
They're doodles.
844
00:42:59,510 --> 00:43:02,413
And so I started to
analyze those numbers.
845
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:04,816
And I discovered that
there were some very
846
00:43:04,816 --> 00:43:06,117
distinguishable patterns.
847
00:43:06,117 --> 00:43:09,220
And they were, in fact,
not random numbers.
848
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:10,755
They were not doodles.
849
00:43:10,755 --> 00:43:12,690
But they contained information.
850
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:15,092
We don't know what
the information is,
851
00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:19,130
but there are legitimate set
of cryptographic numbers.
852
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:21,799
And that is all that
is known to this date.
853
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:26,871
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Even
though he has lost his job
854
00:43:26,871 --> 00:43:29,674
and is now living in
a nearby motel room,
855
00:43:29,674 --> 00:43:31,943
Wilbur Swift is still
digging at the bottom
856
00:43:31,943 --> 00:43:34,812
of his 25 foot shaft.
857
00:43:34,812 --> 00:43:37,682
So far, he has found nothing.
858
00:43:37,682 --> 00:43:39,684
WILBER SWIFT: My life
is back in California,
859
00:43:39,684 --> 00:43:42,186
and some of the neighbors
say, hey, where's Wilbur?
860
00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:46,457
And I don't think any
of them take it serious.
861
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:50,595
Well, he who laughs
last laughs best.
862
00:43:50,595 --> 00:43:52,763
And I believe that
one of the days,
863
00:43:52,763 --> 00:43:53,965
I might get the last laugh.
864
00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:57,969
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Toney brothers believe
865
00:43:57,969 --> 00:43:59,971
they will have the last laugh.
866
00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,772
They still haven't
found the treasure,
867
00:44:01,772 --> 00:44:05,710
but they do believe they
have located the final clue.
868
00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:08,312
While we were filming,
they had to return home
869
00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:10,114
after running out of money.
870
00:44:10,114 --> 00:44:11,949
But they will be back.
871
00:44:11,949 --> 00:44:13,417
EDDIE TONEY: The
facts that we've got,
872
00:44:13,417 --> 00:44:15,086
I know it's not a hoax.
873
00:44:15,086 --> 00:44:17,321
I'm convinced that it's not.
874
00:44:17,321 --> 00:44:20,324
It's been there 160
some years, supposedly,
875
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:24,362
and it's going to be
there until it's found.
876
00:44:24,362 --> 00:44:26,163
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In spite of all the computer
877
00:44:26,163 --> 00:44:29,634
programs, historical research,
digging, and searching,
878
00:44:29,634 --> 00:44:33,304
Thomas Beale's secret vault,
if it exists, remains intact.
879
00:44:36,874 --> 00:44:38,676
The residents
of Bedford County
880
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:41,979
played host to treasure
seekers for nearly a century,
881
00:44:41,979 --> 00:44:43,915
and have asked us
to remind everyone
882
00:44:43,915 --> 00:44:48,352
that unauthorized digging
is against the law.
883
00:44:48,352 --> 00:44:54,725
[music playing]
884
00:44:54,725 --> 00:44:56,961
Tonight, we've examined
four mysteries.
885
00:44:56,961 --> 00:44:59,630
And at the heart of
each is a secret.
886
00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:03,134
A secret kept hidden by
amnesia, by a con game,
887
00:45:03,134 --> 00:45:06,270
by a prison escape,
and by a code.
888
00:45:06,270 --> 00:45:09,574
Perhaps someone, somewhere,
can unlock these secrets.
889
00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:11,909
Perhaps that
someone is watching.
890
00:45:11,909 --> 00:45:13,544
Perhaps it's you.
891
00:45:13,544 --> 00:45:18,015
[music playing]
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