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Elizabeth and Philip
take their places on history's pages.
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To the stirring strains of Mendelssohn,
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they march as man and wife
toward the west door
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amidst nearly 3,000 invited spectators.
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There was this moment
where our private secretary,
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she had worked for the queen for almost,
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I think 20 years,
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and what she said to me was,
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it's like this fish.
It's, like, swimming perfectly.
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Powerful, it's on the right current.
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And one day
this little organism comes in.
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She's independent,
she's quite feisty.
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- She's a controlling woman.
- Ooh!
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This foreign organism.
And the entire thing goes...
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"What is that? What is it doing here?"
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"It doesn't look like us.
It doesn't move like us."
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"We don't like it. Get it off of us."
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- There's polarized opinions...
- I say it's doomed.
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People are so cynical
before the people are even married.
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Give the couple a chance for
goodness sake. They're obviously in love.
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I agree.
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And she
just explained that, you know,
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they'll soon see
that it's stronger, faster,
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even better,
with this organism as part of it.
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It will be hard at the beginning
for them to adjust to this new thing...
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but then it'll be amazing.
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Times are changing.
She's the first ever global princess.
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I think what she and Harry
are going to be capable of
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is going to be quite impressive.
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This couple is the one
that is gonna change
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the face of the royal family for me.
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And I was really hopeful
that that was true.
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On the day of our wedding,
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it's like I went into a really calm space.
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I don't know how I was so calm.
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I look back and, "How was I so calm?"
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And all I wanted was a mimosa, a croissant
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and, uh, to play
the song, "Going to the Chapel."
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And that's what I did. And it was great.
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♪ Going to the chapel ♪
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♪ And we're gonna get married ♪
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♪ Going to the chapel of love... ♪
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Oyez! Oyez! Oyez!
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It's Harry and Meghan's big day.
God save the Queen.
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We can
take you now to Windsor town center
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where the streets are packed.
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Everybody's going crazy.
Yeah, everybody's wedding mad.
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The crowd. It was just literally like
you were in the biggest football stadium.
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This massive, massive roar.
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It's estimated that 115,000 people
will be here in Windsor.
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Everything was
big and spectacular.
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I mean it was just,
like, hard to even comprehend
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that I'm actually a part of this event.
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♪ Going to the chapel... ♪
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It's like... this is crazy,
like absolutely crazy.
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♪ Bells will ring ♪
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♪ Ah ah ah, sun will shine ♪
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♪ Whoa oh oh, I'll be his... ♪
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So I knew
that when I got to the actual castle...
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How funny is that to say?
"When I got to the castle for my wedding."
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Um, that there'd be tons of people.
What I didn't know was
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people would be lining
both sides of the street.
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I mean, this was a 15-minute drive.
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Me and my mom were like,
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"What is going on?
Look at all these people!"
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Everyone's got their phones out.
There we go. Wow! Look at that.
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♪ Married ♪
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♪ Going to the chapel... ♪
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There was an expectation, right?
Diana's boy.
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There was an expectation
to have a public wedding.
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It was like,
"Mission complete with William."
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"Now, let's see
if this goes the distance with Harry
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and then we can actually go, 'Job done.'"
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- Here she comes.
- Here comes the bride.
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♪ Going to the chapel of love ♪
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♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
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This is when you
finally get to see that dress.
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Looking
at the design of the dress...
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there were many conversations we had
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over how you want to present yourself
to the world.
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I mean, most of us have a wedding
with, you know, 70 to 200 people.
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This was billions of people
watching this wedding.
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It has to be flawless,
it has to be perfect.
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I just remember thinking,
"Just take a deep breath and keep going."
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And you chose the song
I walked down the aisle to.
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Yep.
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Which was stunning.
That was so beautiful.
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My father helped us
choose an orchestra,
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which made all the difference.
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Harry's dad is very charming.
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And... I said to him, like,
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"I've lost my dad in this."
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So, him as my father-in-law
was really important to me.
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So I asked him
to walk me down the aisle and he said yes.
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The whole thing was surreal.
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It was at that moment, I could also see H.
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What was going through
your head when you saw her coming?
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Look at... Look at me, look what I got.
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- Oh my gosh.
- Look what I... look what I found.
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The world was watching us,
but when we were actually at the altar,
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as far as I was concerned,
it was just the two of us.
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H and I are really, really good
at finding each other in the chaos.
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When we find each other, we reconnect
to, like, "Oh it's you. It's you."
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It's not that the rest of it
doesn't matter, but...
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The rest of it feels temporary.
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It felt like a moment where the world
paused and celebrated love.
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I remember watching him look at her,
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and I almost started to cry,
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and I was like, "No Vicky, don't cry!"
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♪ I won't cry, I won't cry ♪
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♪ No, I won't shed a tear... ♪
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The whole ceremony
was something quite unique.
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A gospel choir. That had never been
part of a royal wedding before.
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♪ So darling, darling stand... ♪
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There wasn't
too much pushback on that.
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No.
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Everyone was like, "Gospel choir.
Wonderful idea. That's great."
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And again, more help from,
from, uh, from my dad on that one.
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Yeah, said that they could just
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take the best people
from certain gospel choirs
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and put them together.
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And that's how Kingdom Choir
came to be, and they're great.
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♪ Trouble, won't you stand by me... ♪
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To have her culture
represented in that wedding,
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amazing, I loved it.
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And I thought it was really courageous
and breaking boundaries but not trying to.
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- ♪ Stand by me ♪
- ♪ So darling, darling ♪
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We had this massive moment where
myself, Oprah, Idris Elba and his partner,
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we all looked at each other for a brief
moment and had a little bit of a chuckle.
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And nobody needed to say anything,
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because everybody knew exactly
the layers of symbolism
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that were taking place that day.
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♪ This little light of mine ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ Oh, this little light of mine ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ I say, this little light of mine ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ Let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine ♪
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♪ Oh, in my home ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ You know, oh, in my home ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ I say, oh, in my home ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ Let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine ♪
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♪ This little light of mine ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ Oh, this little light of mine ♪
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♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪
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♪ I said, this little light of mine ♪
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And then we had the reception
at St. George's Hall.
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- We cut cake. With a sword.
- With a sword.
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With a sword.
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It was great.
It was all so over the top.
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I think most people were just like, "What
is happening?" Elton John's performing.
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I couldn't find my mom because she had
beelined to the stage to watch Elton sing.
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I just really wanted the music to be fun.
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Even our first dance.
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- Song of a thousand, uh, dances?
- Thousands...
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A thousand... Help, I always get it wrong.
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♪ One two three ♪
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♪ Ow, uh, all right, uh! ♪
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♪ Got to know how to pony ♪
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♪ Like Bony Maronie ♪
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- ♪ Mash potato ♪
- There you go.
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♪ Do the alligator ♪
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That was our first dance. It was so fun.
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I was just spinning like a whirlwind.
It was so great.
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It was just brilliant.
It was how every wedding should be.
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Meg was madly in love.
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♪ Na na na na na na na na na na... ♪
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Meg and I would always
sign off on our texts, "Love wins."
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♪ Na na na na na na na na na na ♪
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Love won.
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Someone said to me,
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"If you were writing
the royal family story as a novel,
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it's almost at this point in its history
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that you would want to be
writing in a new character like Meghan."
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It needed a boost of energy.
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A modernization that would
speak to a new generation of people.
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Oh my God.
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It's my favorite video.
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Thursday afternoon. Someone's happy.
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As far as people were concerned, we were
living in a palace. We were. In a cottage.
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We were living on palace grounds.
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Yeah. Kensington Palace
sounds very regal. Of course it does.
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It says "palace" in the name,
but Nottingham Cottage was so small.
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The whole thing's on a slight lean.
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Really low ceilings, I don't know who
it was for. They must have been short.
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He would hit his head constantly
in that place 'cause he's so tall.
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Me with a hoe, and H varnishing.
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It was just a chapter in our lives
where I don't think anyone could believe
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what it was actually like
behind the scenes.
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Well, Oprah came over
for tea, didn't she?
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- She did.
- When she came in,
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she sat down, she goes,
"No one would ever believe it."
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"No one would ever believe it."
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My first official engagement
with Her Majesty
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was very early on after we got married.
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We took the royal train together
and we had breakfast that morning.
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Your Majesty, thank you so much
for coming back to Cheshire.
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And, um... I had
a really great time with her.
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What do you talk about
with the Queen of England?
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I treated her
as my husband's grandma.
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And knowing that,
of course, there has to be
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a completely different
sense of propriety and whatnot in public.
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When you're sitting and having breakfast,
to just be able to talk.
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I mean, when we got into the car
in-between engagements,
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she had a blanket
and she put it over my knees
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and we're sitting in the car
with this blanket and I thought,
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"I recognize and respect
and see that you are the queen,
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but in this moment, I'm so grateful
that there's a grandmother figure."
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"Because that feels like family."
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And because I was so, so close
with my grandmother
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and I took care of her in her final years.
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Yeah. It was really... It was such a...
Such a good day. We laughed.
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Meghan had the Queen
in stitches of laughter.
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You don't often see the Queen in giggles.
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That day happened to be the
one-year anniversary of the Grenfell fire.
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The Queen and the Duchess
of Sussex remembering Grenfell in Chester.
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Seventy-two seconds
of silence. One for every life lost.
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It was really important to me
because I had become so close
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with so many
of the women who had survived that,
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even though no one knew that at the time.
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Beneath a still moon,
a blaze of such ferocity
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it is almost filmic.
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The Grenfell fire was horrendous.
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We were watching it on the news.
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Residents have complained for years
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that their concerns about safety
at the flats were simply being ignored.
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One key question
was whether council budget cuts
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were in any way to blame.
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Grenfell has a very high
immigrant population
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and is a deprived area of London.
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And it is a direct neighbor to Kensington,
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one of the richest boroughs in the UK.
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The Grenfell fire left
so many families displaced,
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outside of how many deaths it caused.
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And, I remember saying,
"Well, can we do something?"
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"We need to go down there
and do something."
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And so, I connected
with the women at Al-Manaar,
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which is a mosque in Grenfell.
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They were living in these hotels and
just given meal vouchers for fast food.
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I started cooking at age of seven,
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for at least 30 to 50 every day.
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But after the fire happened,
we stayed in the hotel for 19 months.
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Eating takeaway, like day and night.
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So I walked into the local mosque and I
asked if I could use the kitchen to cook.
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The whole idea was
just to try and feel normal again.
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For a few hours,
forget that something happened.
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The first few months, it was twice a week,
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up until...
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the Duchess came.
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When the Duchess came in,
you know, we like to kiss.
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Three kisses on the cheek
and there's about 50 of us there.
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She couldn't finish. She was like,
"Oh my God, oh my God."
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She asked if she could help.
I was like, "Really?"
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She goes, "Yeah."
Sleeves up, I gave her apron,
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and she washed, like,
five kilos basmati rice.
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Uh, okay. Mmm.
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Over the course
of eight or nine months,
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I just kept going back and visiting them,
and I loved these women so much.
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When I watched these women
laughing together and grieving together,
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I said, "Why can't you do this
every day of the week?"
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They said, "Well,
we don't have the funds for it."
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I just looked around, I said,
"We should make a cookbook."
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Thank you for coming
for the launch of Together,
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to celebrate this and the women
of the Hubb Community Kitchen.
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Actually, the first speech I made
as a member of the royal family
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was launching this cookbook.
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Working on this project
for the past nine months has been
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a tremendous labor of love.
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We did it on the grounds
of Kensington Palace.
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And did your mom make these, um...
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I feel so proud to live in a city
that can have so much diversity.
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It's 12 countries represented
in this one group of women.
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It's pretty outstanding. Thank you.
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Sales, we're doing brilliantly.
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We've knocked JK Rowling off the top spot,
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and the book's not even out yet.
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It just... Just kept growing.
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On behalf of all the ladies, thank you.
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Thank you!
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If you needed an image
of how the Duchess of Sussex
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is changing the way
the royal family is perceived,
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this one would probably do it.
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Thank you! Thank you!
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She talked about wanting
to bring new life to the monarchy,
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and more honesty and humanity
to those spaces. What's not to like?
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Oi, royalty.
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There they are.
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Prince Harry and Meghan
on the first day of their Australian tour.
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They seem to speak so effortlessly
for a different generation.
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She and Harry are
the superstars of the British family.
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Yeah, I shook her hand too.
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Looking back on it now,
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amazed we managed to do what we did.
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Well, also even harder
when I was pregnant.
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One of the things
that we connected on really early
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is you always had wanted to be a dad.
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- Mm.
- And I'd always wanted to be a mom.
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We started journaling right
when we found out we were pregnant.
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It was just, "Dear baby,
we're so excited to meet you one day."
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And take little snapshots
and stick them in the journal.
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"Here's an announcement
that went out about you today."
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Breaking baby news.
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The Duchess of Sussex is pregnant
and we now know officially.
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We announced we were pregnant
in Australia.
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Because we had to.
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- You were starting to show.
- Yeah.
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And then New Zealand
started referring to it as the bump.
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- As the bump. Le bump. Yeah.
- Le bump, yeah.
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They'll be busy,
which is not easy early in a pregnancy.
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They have 76 engagements scheduled.
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That was a really
rigorous tour to do, pregnant.
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A 16-day trip.
Australia and New Zealand and Fiji.
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Let's hope she hasn't got
bad morning sickness.
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She's so lovely and just so engaged.
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Really all about women's empowerment.
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Giving 100%,
every single person that you meet...
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That's their moment.
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The Duchess of Sussex
arrived hand-in-hand with her husband.
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It went so well.
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Because when girls are given
the right tools to succeed,
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they can create incredible futures.
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The work they were doing,
the speeches,
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the people they were meeting,
it seemed to be amazing.
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And then I don't understand
what happened after that.
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I think Australia was a real turning point
because they were so popular.
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So popular with the public.
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Meghan!
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The internals at the palace
were incredibly threatened by that.
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Putting aside
what I think,
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she's becoming a royal rock star.
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Bigger, I would argue,
as a couple, than William and Kate.
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That's probably not a good thing
in the long term.
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The issue is when someone who's
marrying in, who should be a supporting,
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a supporting act,
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is then stealing the limelight,
or is doing the job better
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than the person who is born to do this.
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That upsets people. It shifts the balance.
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Because you've been led to believe
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that the only way
that your charities can succeed
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and the only way that your reputation
can be grown or improved
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is if you're on the front page
of those newspapers.
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But the media are the ones who choose
who to put on the front page.
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First time that the penny dropped for her,
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M and I spent the night in a room
in Buckingham Palace after an event where
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every single member of the family
had been, including the queen.
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The next morning,
they'd set up breakfast for Harry and I.
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And on the front page
of The Telegraph, Meghan.
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I went, "Oh my God."
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She was like,
"But it's not my fault."
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And I said, "I know.
And my mum felt the same way."
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We'd be going round Australia for instance
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and you... All you could hear was,
"Oh, she's on the other side."
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What do you mean?
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Well, they weren't on the right side
to wave at me or to touch me.
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They were expressing
a preference, even then, for you.
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Yes.
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Now if you're a man,
or my husband, a proud man,
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you mind about that
if you hear it every day for four weeks.
364
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And you feel low about it.
365
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But were you flattered
by the media attention?
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No, not particularly.
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Because with the media attention
came a lot of jealousy.
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A great deal of... complicated situations
arose because of that.
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When some people
in the institution around the family
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started to see that this new couple
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could destabilize the power dynamics,
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whether actively talked about or not,
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the aim was to put them in a box
or make them irrelevant.
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It was almost like,
from the wedding and everything,
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I saw that they were building her up
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and then there was a shift
and they started to tear her down.
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The Duchess of Sussex is
at war with her sister-in-law.
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All of a sudden, these tabloid stories
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started to appear,
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criticizing Meghan for every little thing.
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What's interesting is that
you could see side by side, two articles.
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One in which Kate was praised,
and Meghan was condemned.
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- You had the bump.
- The bump.
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The avocados.
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It's bizarre. And there were
maybe like 25 examples.
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It's literally the same thing.
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It's the off-the-shoulder dress.
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It's the same fruit.
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- If avocado is a fruit?
- Mm-hmm, it is, yeah.
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00:27:36,071 --> 00:27:38,674
This is how it's covered for her.
This is how it's covered for her.
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If you don't see
the difference and understand
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why it's being reported that way, why...
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then, I can't help you.
394
00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:49,334
I can't. I'm sorry. I just can't.
395
00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:53,838
At the time, I mean we laughed about it
because it's so ridiculous.
396
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But an attack can be preposterous
but it's still an attack
397
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and that drip feed of constant attack
on someone who is an individual,
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a real person, has an impact.
399
00:28:05,308 --> 00:28:09,854
The fairy tale has fractured
and one person is copping all the blame.
400
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:12,458
Meghan
seems to be a version of the Antichrist.
401
00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:14,763
Is Meghan Markle "Duchess Difficult"?
402
00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:17,129
"Duchess Difficult." "Monster Markle."
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00:28:17,153 --> 00:28:21,366
A lot of the stories
had a connotation and a tone
404
00:28:21,449 --> 00:28:23,243
that were incredibly demeaning.
405
00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:28,957
So many people expect racism
really just to be the N-word.
406
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,626
"None of that's racist."
It's like, "You don't understand."
407
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,950
Where is that racism?
I haven't seen it.
408
00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:39,050
So the UK's perfect at doing this, right?
Nobody wants to be openly racist.
409
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:41,195
That wouldn't be civilized.
That wouldn't be British.
410
00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:44,264
Uh, but it's perfectly fine
to kind of dog whistle. Give a nod to it.
411
00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:47,934
She's a diva. She's making people cry.
412
00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:49,728
This kind of angry black woman trope.
413
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:53,022
It just really came to the fore,
uh, really quite suddenly.
414
00:28:53,732 --> 00:29:00,113
Like even the stereotyping
and the association to drugs or terrorism...
415
00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:04,492
There's a time
they put my picture and Meghan's picture,
416
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:08,788
saying that the mosque is related to ISIS.
417
00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:11,373
Why?
418
00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:14,878
Anger sells.
419
00:29:14,961 --> 00:29:17,172
That hysteria elicits clicks,
420
00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:19,674
which elicits an engagement,
which elicits money.
421
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,260
I call it the outrage industrial complex.
422
00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:27,974
And racialized anger is just
another step down the same pathway.
423
00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:36,357
I had still
been under the delusion
424
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,568
that if it was in a tabloid,
no one believed it.
425
00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:41,154
Like, it's a tabloid.
426
00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:45,074
And then we had a walkabout in Liverpool
427
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:49,454
and there was a group of women,
and one of them said to me,
428
00:29:49,537 --> 00:29:51,498
"What you're doing
to your father's not right."
429
00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:55,668
It was the first time that I went,
430
00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:59,130
"Oh my God.
People actually believe this stuff."
431
00:30:00,423 --> 00:30:03,510
And then my entire center
was rocked to its core.
432
00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:12,936
The lies, that's one thing.
433
00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:15,647
You kind of get used to that
when you live within this family.
434
00:30:15,730 --> 00:30:20,652
But what they were doing to her
and the effect that it was having on her...
435
00:30:21,402 --> 00:30:24,864
Like, enough.
Enough of the pain, enough of the...
436
00:30:26,574 --> 00:30:27,617
The suffering.
437
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:33,790
No one sees
what's happening behind closed doors.
438
00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:38,044
Back in the day,
my mum was in the back of the car,
439
00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:40,421
going to engagements in floods of tears.
440
00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,215
And then my dad's saying, "Almost there."
441
00:30:42,298 --> 00:30:46,135
And 30 seconds to wipe the tears away,
slap on some makeup,
442
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:50,139
and then the door opens
and smile, everything's fine.
443
00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:53,268
And flash, flash, flash,
flash, flash, flash.
444
00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:09,284
It was just gloomy. Like she was
just kind of disappearing inside herself.
445
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:16,067
I'd never seen her like that. It was hard.
It's very hard to talk about.
446
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:18,001
Um, I was really scared.
447
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,421
It was like,
all of this will stop if I'm not here.
448
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:28,845
And that was the scariest thing about it.
It was such clear thinking.
449
00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:32,849
I remember her telling me that...
450
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,644
That she had wanted to take her own life.
451
00:31:37,687 --> 00:31:39,022
And, um...
452
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,191
And that really broke my heart.
453
00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:43,526
Because I knew...
454
00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:47,697
Well, I knew that it was bad.
455
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:53,953
But to just constantly be, um,
456
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:57,123
picked at by these vultures...
457
00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:00,376
Uh, just picking away at her spirit.
458
00:32:01,085 --> 00:32:04,297
That she would actually think
of not wanting to be here.
459
00:32:05,548 --> 00:32:06,591
That, uh...
460
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,603
It's... That's not an easy one
for a mom to hear.
461
00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:21,064
You know, uh...
462
00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:26,152
And, uh...
463
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,034
And I can't protect her.
464
00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:36,579
H can't protect her.
465
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:41,166
She's...
466
00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:50,259
I was devastated.
467
00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:53,638
I knew that she was struggling.
We were both struggling.
468
00:32:55,014 --> 00:32:57,225
But I never thought
that it would get to that stage.
469
00:32:57,308 --> 00:32:59,936
And the fact
that it got to that stage, I felt...
470
00:33:01,896 --> 00:33:03,898
angry and ashamed.
471
00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:07,443
I didn't deal with it particularly well.
472
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:13,074
I dealt with it as institutional Harry,
as opposed to husband Harry.
473
00:33:15,118 --> 00:33:17,537
And what took over my feelings
474
00:33:18,746 --> 00:33:19,998
was my royal role.
475
00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:23,042
I had been trained
476
00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:25,545
to worry more about,
477
00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:29,340
what are people gonna think
if we don't go to this event?
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00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:30,425
We're gonna be late.
479
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,761
And looking back on it now, I...
480
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,723
I hate myself for it.
481
00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:44,230
What she needed from me was
so much more than I was able to give.
482
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,654
I wanted to go somewhere to get help,
but I wasn't allowed to.
483
00:33:52,655 --> 00:33:55,255
They were concerned about
how that would look for the institution.
484
00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:00,413
They knew how bad it was.
485
00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,285
They thought,
"Why couldn't she deal with it?"
486
00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:07,003
As if to say, "Well, you know,
everybody else has dealt with it,
487
00:34:07,086 --> 00:34:08,504
why can't she deal with it?"
488
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,758
But this was different.
It was really different.
489
00:34:12,633 --> 00:34:14,761
But actually, if you strip all that away
490
00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:17,972
and say, "Okay fine,
it was exactly the same,"
491
00:34:18,848 --> 00:34:21,248
so do we still believe
that she should have just sucked it up
492
00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:22,977
like other members of the family?
493
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:27,398
Or does one think that maybe
it's about time that we stopped?
494
00:34:30,276 --> 00:34:33,654
No one would have private conversations
with the editors saying, "Enough."
495
00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:39,243
My dad said to me, "Darling boy,
you can't take on the media."
496
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,231
"The media will always be the media."
I said, "I disagree."
497
00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:50,838
I have 30 years' experience
of looking behind the curtain
498
00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:53,466
and seeing how this system works
and how it runs.
499
00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:59,055
I mean, just constant briefings
about other members of the family,
500
00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:01,474
about favors, inviting the press in.
501
00:35:02,141 --> 00:35:03,141
It's a dirty game.
502
00:35:04,977 --> 00:35:07,688
You know, there's leaking,
but there's also planting of stories.
503
00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,692
So if the comms team
want to be able to remove
504
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:14,195
a negative story about their principle,
505
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:17,406
they will trade and give you something
about someone else's principle.
506
00:35:18,491 --> 00:35:20,868
So the offices end up
working against each other.
507
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:25,665
It's a kind of a, this weird understanding
or acceptance that happens.
508
00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:28,918
And you can always say,
"I didn't know about this,"
509
00:35:29,001 --> 00:35:32,213
or, "This would never happen.
Are you suggesting that I condone this?"
510
00:35:32,296 --> 00:35:37,718
It's like, "No. But what I am asking is
have you done anything to stop it?"
511
00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:40,096
And the answer is no.
512
00:35:41,013 --> 00:35:43,015
Pretend like
you know each other, come on.
513
00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:49,605
William and I both saw
what happened in our dad's office...
514
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:54,527
and we made an agreement that we would
never let that happen to our office.
515
00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:01,450
Every year,
Kensington Palace hosts a Christmas party
516
00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:03,077
for the principles and the staff.
517
00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:06,622
And so we were gearing up
for one big party.
518
00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:07,874
and very shortly...
519
00:36:08,583 --> 00:36:11,878
Very shortly before the party,
520
00:36:11,961 --> 00:36:13,796
it became two parties.
521
00:36:16,799 --> 00:36:22,638
That was the point that you realized
that these offices are separating.
522
00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:27,602
It could be the end
of an era for the "Royal Fab Four."
523
00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:29,605
The "Fabulous Four" no more?
524
00:36:29,645 --> 00:36:33,191
Meghan and Harry officially cutting ties
with William and Kate.
525
00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:36,670
The split
fueling speculation of further strains
526
00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,822
in the once-close relationship
between Harry and William,
527
00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:42,241
and growing tensions between their wives.
528
00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:54,212
I would far rather
get destroyed in the Press
529
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:59,050
than play along with this game
or this business of trading.
530
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,846
And to see my brother's
office copy the very same thing
531
00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:07,016
that we promised
the two of us would never ever do,
532
00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:09,101
that was heartbreaking.
533
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,355
Ready.
534
00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:17,902
- Yay!
- Yay! Merry Christmas!
535
00:37:17,985 --> 00:37:20,988
We were in this bubble
where everything is controlled by them.
536
00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:24,450
I couldn't even text my friends a photo.
537
00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:26,118
"You can't do this, you can't..."
538
00:37:26,702 --> 00:37:29,247
Okay. And you do as you're told,
539
00:37:29,330 --> 00:37:32,250
but your world just becomes
more and more like this.
540
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,547
That was a really dark...
That was really a dark time.
541
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:40,633
And I didn't know what to do.
542
00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:44,512
Like, that's the thing is, like,
they are in this complex organism
543
00:37:44,595 --> 00:37:48,182
that I don't know anything about,
or how to help,
544
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,685
or what to do,
and I'm not allowed to say anything.
545
00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:54,146
Like, I was not allowed to say anything.
546
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:03,614
Anything that anybody was printing
wasn't coming from anybody that knew her.
547
00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:05,700
There's all this untruth.
548
00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:10,496
There's all these lies,
and it just seemed to be getting worse.
549
00:38:12,415 --> 00:38:14,917
Abby came to me
and said we should do something.
550
00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:17,420
I called one of my closest friends,
551
00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:20,223
who just so happened at the time
to be the editor of People magazine.
552
00:38:23,592 --> 00:38:26,220
I said, "We have
to turn this narrative around."
553
00:38:27,471 --> 00:38:29,307
You know, it will
just be her closest friends
554
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:31,030
coming together to talk about the person,
555
00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:33,728
who she really is,
in the middle of this shit storm.
556
00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:42,903
It was born out of
just wanting to remind the world
557
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:45,323
that she's a person
and not a headline and...
558
00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:50,077
That she is loved
and, and stick up for her.
559
00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:56,959
The story comes out.
560
00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,671
Like, "Okay." Like,
there was a little bit of an exhale.
561
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,018
My girlfriends surprised me
562
00:39:14,101 --> 00:39:18,147
with a really beautiful
baby shower in New York.
563
00:39:23,277 --> 00:39:25,237
They're like,
"We're gonna shower her with love,
564
00:39:25,321 --> 00:39:27,365
and shower her baby,
and she's gonna survive this."
565
00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:28,991
"We're gonna get through it with her."
566
00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:34,789
This like, really magical time
of just, like, us just celebrating her.
567
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,505
It was just so cool and so fun to just,
like, try to have an intimate moment.
568
00:39:42,588 --> 00:39:47,593
I don't think I understood that there was
no intimate moment that one could have.
569
00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:50,137
Jessica!
570
00:39:52,848 --> 00:39:54,558
Ladies, ladies, come on!
571
00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:59,456
- That turned into a thing...
- Criticized the extravagance.
572
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,000
- Ostentatious.
- The world's biggest stars.
573
00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:04,819
- A show-off moment.
- Traveling home in style.
574
00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,196
Clooney's private jet.
Not too shabby.
575
00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:08,614
It was so wrong.
576
00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:13,035
These independent,
strong, successful women
577
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,037
choose to use their own money,
578
00:40:15,621 --> 00:40:17,206
and it's not taxpayer money,
579
00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:21,669
to throw a party for their friend
from a place of love.
580
00:40:23,003 --> 00:40:26,298
Why are you taking such a beautiful moment
and trying to ruin it?
581
00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:35,224
They knew that they didn't
want to bring Archie up
582
00:40:35,307 --> 00:40:38,310
in this frenzy that they lived in.
583
00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:41,397
So then to suddenly
have my grandmother go, "There's a house."
584
00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:46,485
"Frogmore Cottage.
It's available. Are you interested?""
585
00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:48,696
- "Yes, please."
- Yes.
586
00:40:51,574 --> 00:40:54,285
It was a place
where we had so many memories.
587
00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:59,540
From our courtship,
our engagement, our wedding, our walks.
588
00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:03,919
And then where we ended up,
you know, having our baby.
589
00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:10,301
Oyez, oyez.
590
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:15,556
Buckingham Palace proudly announces
the birth of a royal baby boy.
591
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,892
We wanna start off by congratulating
592
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:20,186
Duchess Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.
593
00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,313
Very happy news. It is a boy!
594
00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:24,036
Just a few hours ago...
595
00:41:25,941 --> 00:41:29,987
Meghan and myself
had a baby boy, um, early this morning.
596
00:41:30,070 --> 00:41:35,451
It's been the most amazing experience
I could ever have, um, possibly imagined.
597
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:39,163
One of those babies is
gonna pop out looking like me.
598
00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:43,834
As a Black man who's just been
born to royalty, the Black prince,
599
00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:47,838
Archie has changed the game!
600
00:41:58,474 --> 00:42:01,769
Her Royal Highness is
the proud and happy mother of a prince.
601
00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:04,230
The whole country knew
that the baby would soon be born.
602
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:07,775
All day on Sunday,
people waited outside the palace...
603
00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:10,819
Things have been done
in a certain type of way for many years.
604
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:23,123
The big photo call on the steps
as soon as you've given birth.
605
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,923
That's the way that it was expected to go.
606
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:40,891
And so, in the run-up to Archie's birth,
607
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,352
reporters were constantly phoning like,
608
00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,235
"What are the plans?
We know that it's close."
609
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:52,152
There was already, like,
the pressure of, like, the picture
610
00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:53,696
with Archie on the steps,
611
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,489
and "are they gonna do that,
are they not?"
612
00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,534
We are very familiar with this brown door.
613
00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:03,289
But I had been
really worried going into that labor
614
00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:06,584
because I'm older and I didn't know
if I'd have to have a C-section.
615
00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:09,878
And I had a very long-standing
relationship with my doctor.
616
00:43:10,379 --> 00:43:13,299
And that's who I trusted
with my pregnancy.
617
00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:16,260
And they said, "Right.
But she's at Portland Hospital."
618
00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:18,929
"And the steps are at this hospital."
619
00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:23,350
I said, "Okay, we could do a photo call
in front of Portland Hospital."
620
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:24,643
And they said it's impossible.
621
00:43:24,727 --> 00:43:26,770
"We couldn't barricade these streets off,
622
00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,690
and it would create a threat
for the emergency room entrance,
623
00:43:29,773 --> 00:43:31,973
because that's where
you would have to do this picture."
624
00:43:32,985 --> 00:43:36,614
We said, "Okay, what's the hybrid?
Can we give them more time at the castle?"
625
00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:39,575
And everything in turn was like,
"Yes. Yes, great. Oh, yes."
626
00:43:39,658 --> 00:43:42,202
At no point did someone go,
"Absolutely not."
627
00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:53,203
Meghan, tell us
what it's like becoming a new mum?
628
00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:56,091
And tell us a little about
"Baby Sussex", as we're calling him.
629
00:43:56,175 --> 00:44:00,596
Um, it's magic.
It's pretty amazing and...
630
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:05,517
I mean, I have the two best guys
in the world, so I'm really happy.
631
00:44:06,393 --> 00:44:08,395
And how are you
finding parenting, generally?
632
00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:10,481
Yeah, it's great.
Parenting is amazing.
633
00:44:10,564 --> 00:44:13,609
It's only been, what,
two and a half days, three days.
634
00:44:13,692 --> 00:44:14,777
Yep.
635
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:19,907
But we're just... We're just so thrilled
to have our own little bundle of joy.
636
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:23,827
He's already got a little bit
of facial hair as well. Wonderful.
637
00:44:24,578 --> 00:44:26,222
- Guys, thank you.
- Thank you all so much.
638
00:44:26,246 --> 00:44:27,998
- Thanks for your time.
- Thank you.
639
00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:30,793
And thank you, everybody,
for all the well wishes and the kindness.
640
00:44:30,876 --> 00:44:32,920
It's really... It just means so much.
641
00:44:33,879 --> 00:44:35,756
- Thank you.
- Thanks. Bye.
642
00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:47,476
Now, I think, if you ask
most average members of society,
643
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,270
they would say, "We would love
to be able to see him."
644
00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:53,691
"Take all the time you need.
We'll see him when you're ready."
645
00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:59,488
But even though it was
just two days after Archie was born,
646
00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:05,160
it turned into a narrative
of Harry and Meghan being selfish.
647
00:45:06,161 --> 00:45:08,831
A sharp departure
from Charles and Diana,
648
00:45:08,914 --> 00:45:10,332
and William and Kate,
649
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:11,959
all more public with their kids.
650
00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:15,504
There has been
some controversy,
651
00:45:15,587 --> 00:45:17,423
some comment in the newspapers saying,
652
00:45:17,506 --> 00:45:20,259
"Look, we fund them.
We wish to see the baby."
653
00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:24,722
The amount of abuse that we got,
especially you, but both of us,
654
00:45:24,805 --> 00:45:29,059
for not wanting to serve our child up
on a silver platter, was incredible.
655
00:45:29,143 --> 00:45:32,688
This is
an unprecedented slap in the face.
656
00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:42,573
If anyone needed evidence
as to why Meghan and Harry
657
00:45:42,656 --> 00:45:47,077
felt it necessary to protect
their newborn baby from the media glare,
658
00:45:47,661 --> 00:45:50,330
they couldn't have asked for
659
00:45:52,207 --> 00:45:53,667
a better case to be made
660
00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:57,838
than the way in which the narrative
played out after the birth.
661
00:45:58,422 --> 00:45:59,798
Archie's just been born.
662
00:45:59,882 --> 00:46:02,926
Media, social media starts
to take on a life of its own.
663
00:46:03,010 --> 00:46:08,223
Someone in the media
posting a photograph of a couple with
664
00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:10,141
a chimp.
665
00:46:10,517 --> 00:46:13,187
And at the top it said,
"Royal baby leaves hospital."
666
00:46:14,521 --> 00:46:16,815
So that was
one of the first things that I saw.
667
00:46:19,568 --> 00:46:24,364
It was a metaphor for the way
this family were being treated.
668
00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:26,700
That their dignity
669
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:30,829
and their right to be treated equally
670
00:46:31,997 --> 00:46:35,292
and have their humanity
respected and acknowledged
671
00:46:35,375 --> 00:46:40,672
was secondary to
a white, patriarchal media establishment.
672
00:46:44,718 --> 00:46:47,596
Were you aware
of the pressure on them
673
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,265
to go pose for the media at that time?
674
00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:54,895
Mm-hmm. I was with her. I mean,
I was there. I'd been there a month. Yeah.
675
00:46:55,979 --> 00:46:57,564
Yeah. And that, um...
676
00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:58,816
Well they had already,
677
00:46:59,399 --> 00:47:03,695
you know, just stripped
both of them of any kind of privacy.
678
00:47:04,696 --> 00:47:08,617
It was almost like it's not your child,
it's the institution's child.
679
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,577
She's saying, "No, this is my baby."
680
00:47:14,289 --> 00:47:17,251
I was there when
she brought him home from the hospital.
681
00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:21,255
Little tiny little thing. Mm-hmm.
682
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,592
I'd never been a grandmother... I mean...
You know, I'm new to being a grandma.
683
00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:29,930
My mom stayed with us for a month solid.
684
00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:33,350
And it was great to have her there.
685
00:47:35,477 --> 00:47:39,106
But then after that, we didn't
have someone to help us with Archie.
686
00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:45,487
I had this phone call
and they were like,
687
00:47:45,571 --> 00:47:48,365
"Prince Harry and Meghan
would like to see you
688
00:47:48,448 --> 00:47:50,701
and speak to you
about looking after Archie."
689
00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:53,328
I was like, "Hang on a minute,
I need to sit down."
690
00:47:55,205 --> 00:47:58,917
I remember just driving so far. I think
I did get a ticket. Actually, yes, I did.
691
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,633
When I arrived
at Frogmore Cottage,
692
00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:10,345
I see this guy, he's tall, he's ginger,
693
00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:12,264
and he's walking barefoot.
694
00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:16,560
And I have gone
and bought a new pair of shoes in Clarks.
695
00:48:21,064 --> 00:48:23,609
And suddenly, whatever I thought or felt,
696
00:48:23,692 --> 00:48:28,822
the formality just sort of slid
and I felt so at ease.
697
00:48:31,783 --> 00:48:33,535
They were really hands-on parents.
698
00:48:33,619 --> 00:48:36,747
In the morning when he woke up,
first thing, mum and dad would come in.
699
00:48:37,247 --> 00:48:39,499
They would be with their baby.
She would feed him.
700
00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:44,171
And then after that, I'll take over
and normally we'd go for a morning walk.
701
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,094
And she said, "Is it okay if I, like,
tie him on my back with a mud cloth
702
00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:54,598
like we do in Zimbabwe?"
Yes! Let's do that!
703
00:48:55,223 --> 00:48:59,186
Archie's legs like this.
Hugging Lorren like this, fast asleep.
704
00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:00,562
- It's true.
- It was brilliant.
705
00:49:03,774 --> 00:49:06,485
She just took care of,
not just Archie, but she took care of us.
706
00:49:06,568 --> 00:49:07,819
She definitely took care of me.
707
00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:15,118
Early into the job,
we have to prepare for a tour.
708
00:49:15,202 --> 00:49:17,454
I'm like,
"What do I pack for a small prince?"
709
00:49:18,038 --> 00:49:20,438
Please place items
in the locker carefully...
710
00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:22,876
It's always been
a bit of a royal thing
711
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,379
to go on a tour with your child.
712
00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:27,547
The South Africa tour,
713
00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:30,384
Archie being four months old,
off we went and we took him with us.
714
00:49:30,467 --> 00:49:35,263
And it was the first time that
we traveled as a family for official work.
715
00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:36,765
It was a real strange experience.
716
00:49:43,105 --> 00:49:45,899
Far from
traditional start to their royal tour.
717
00:49:45,983 --> 00:49:51,279
Arriving in the Nyanga township known
as the murder capital of South Africa.
718
00:49:51,363 --> 00:49:53,163
Symbolic place
for the world's
719
00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:56,827
most talked-about mixed-race couple
to make their entrance.
720
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:07,713
You have to see the royal family
as diplomats representing the UK.
721
00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:12,592
And so there was, um, great nervousness
722
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:16,930
about how far Meghan could go
723
00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:20,434
in doing or saying
anything that wouldn't cause...
724
00:50:20,517 --> 00:50:22,561
Hello.
725
00:50:22,644 --> 00:50:26,356
...national geopolitical rows
between the two countries.
726
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,358
Maya Angelou once said,
727
00:50:28,942 --> 00:50:31,737
"Each time a woman stands up for herself,
728
00:50:32,571 --> 00:50:36,658
without knowing it,
possibly without claiming it,
729
00:50:36,742 --> 00:50:39,286
she stands up for all women."
730
00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:46,168
While I'm here, with my husband,
as a member of the royal family,
731
00:50:46,752 --> 00:50:50,505
I want you to know that, for me,
I am here with you as a mother,
732
00:50:51,089 --> 00:50:56,928
as a wife, as a woman,
as a woman of color, and as your sister.
733
00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:09,483
Just from a cultural standpoint,
734
00:51:09,566 --> 00:51:12,819
you do feel connected,
you feel welcome, you feel a part of.
735
00:51:12,903 --> 00:51:16,073
And as an African American,
that is our lineage.
736
00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:18,283
Baby Archie all smiles
737
00:51:18,366 --> 00:51:21,411
in his first official appearance
on a royal tour.
738
00:51:21,495 --> 00:51:22,829
Of course, everyone
739
00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:26,083
was looking forward
to meeting Archie Mountbatten Windsor.
740
00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:35,092
And there were just
some perfectly wonderful light moments
741
00:51:35,175 --> 00:51:39,638
that, um, she was
just such an enthusiastic new mum.
742
00:51:39,721 --> 00:51:42,057
It must be exciting to be a mom.
743
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:43,600
Oh, it's the best.
744
00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:48,021
But it was also the first time that I...
I really got to see,
745
00:51:48,855 --> 00:51:50,690
uh, how low she'd got.
746
00:51:57,989 --> 00:52:00,659
It was a lot
of pressure on everybody
747
00:52:00,742 --> 00:52:04,621
because the tour was full-on
and you're thinking, "Oh my God,
748
00:52:04,704 --> 00:52:08,333
how are you managing this? And yet
you can still put a smile on your face."
749
00:52:08,416 --> 00:52:09,584
Because she did have a smile.
750
00:52:09,668 --> 00:52:11,378
- Hi.
- Hello.
751
00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,421
- How are you? You okay?
- I'm good.
752
00:52:13,505 --> 00:52:14,505
- Yes.
- Okay.
753
00:52:14,548 --> 00:52:16,967
Tom, the journalist,
who was on that trip with us...
754
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:18,490
Yes, the Africa documentary.
755
00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:23,223
This was a royal documentary
that the palace was green-lighting.
756
00:52:23,306 --> 00:52:25,851
I guess I just assumed
this was just gonna be a...
757
00:52:26,476 --> 00:52:29,729
Like a glossy version of a happy tour.
758
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:32,524
This has been quite a journey,
really, one way and another.
759
00:52:32,607 --> 00:52:35,694
Perhaps you could just give us an idea
of what the last year's been like.
760
00:52:36,695 --> 00:52:38,280
Um...
761
00:52:40,782 --> 00:52:42,993
I didn't know
what he was gonna ask me.
762
00:52:43,827 --> 00:52:46,329
I hadn't touched up my makeup.
I hadn't... I was just fried.
763
00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:49,174
I don't know what the impact
on your physical and mental health,
764
00:52:49,249 --> 00:52:51,543
of all the pressure
that you clearly feel under.
765
00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:55,088
Um...
766
00:52:55,881 --> 00:53:00,760
I would say, look, any woman when they're...
especially when they're pregnant,
767
00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:04,014
you're really vulnerable and
768
00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:08,810
you add this on top
of just trying to be a new mom
769
00:53:08,894 --> 00:53:11,396
or trying to be a newlywed, it's um...
770
00:53:13,815 --> 00:53:15,901
Yeah, well, I guess...
And also thank you for asking,
771
00:53:15,984 --> 00:53:19,988
because not many people
have asked if I'm okay. But it's, uh...
772
00:53:21,865 --> 00:53:25,118
It's a very real thing
to be going through behind the scenes.
773
00:53:25,202 --> 00:53:29,623
And the answer is,
would it be fair to say, not really okay?
774
00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:32,209
As in it's really been a struggle?
775
00:53:32,292 --> 00:53:33,292
Yes.
776
00:53:35,921 --> 00:53:37,881
And I guess
because I was so exhausted,
777
00:53:37,964 --> 00:53:40,634
I was just really grateful
778
00:53:40,717 --> 00:53:44,179
that someone seemed to ask me something
like I was a human being.
779
00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:48,433
I mean, in... I guess I just never thought
they'd even use it in the documentary.
780
00:53:49,017 --> 00:53:51,337
I remember just saying,
"Bye, we'll see you on our flight."
781
00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:53,521
Went and gave Archie a bath.
782
00:53:54,022 --> 00:53:55,899
And then we got in the car,
783
00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:59,152
got on the flight with everybody and...
784
00:54:06,785 --> 00:54:10,956
I had no idea that was gonna be
the thing that traveled around the world.
785
00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:15,418
You suddenly go, "Oh, wow, that...
What I said was... Has gone...
786
00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:17,462
Like... It's like, yes, it's global.
787
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,675
That's, I think, what spawned
that hashtag, #WeLoveYouMeghan.
788
00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:31,142
It hit a chord for everyone
for something specific to them.
789
00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:35,981
Moms thought, "Oh my God, just like me.
No one asked me as a mom if I'm okay."
790
00:54:36,982 --> 00:54:39,651
Someone of color would be like,
"No one's asked me if I'm okay
791
00:54:39,734 --> 00:54:41,486
when I'm in a situation like this."
792
00:54:42,487 --> 00:54:45,657
I think someone in your position
speaking so openly about it
793
00:54:46,157 --> 00:54:49,202
made so many other women feel seen.
794
00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:55,417
People have asked me
what the causes were.
795
00:54:56,209 --> 00:54:57,961
My view is it doesn't matter.
796
00:54:58,044 --> 00:55:00,255
I think that when we start down
797
00:55:00,338 --> 00:55:05,677
a path of trying to get someone to justify
798
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,763
why they feel depressed,
799
00:55:08,847 --> 00:55:13,184
that's a dangerous place for us to be.
800
00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:17,355
What you had was
someone that was struggling
801
00:55:18,189 --> 00:55:19,441
and she needed more help.
802
00:55:23,445 --> 00:55:25,905
No one in the family speaks that openly.
803
00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:28,158
No one had done, apart from one person.
804
00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:29,784
My mum.
805
00:55:29,868 --> 00:55:33,246
In a space of a year,
my whole life changed,
806
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:34,581
turned upside down.
807
00:55:34,664 --> 00:55:37,083
I never had had a depression in my life.
808
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:38,376
But then when I analyzed it,
809
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:42,047
I could see that the changes
I've made in the last year
810
00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:43,673
had all caught up with me.
811
00:55:43,757 --> 00:55:48,011
I was at the end of my tether.
I was desperate.
812
00:55:48,595 --> 00:55:50,263
Because I am a very strong person
813
00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:54,851
and I know that causes complications
in the system that I live in.
814
00:55:56,478 --> 00:55:59,356
From an Institutional perspective,
there was something wrong with her,
815
00:55:59,439 --> 00:56:02,525
as opposed to the environment
or the system which we were part of.
816
00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:06,905
All this candor
has won Harry and Meghan
817
00:56:06,988 --> 00:56:09,157
some sympathy among the British public,
818
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:13,745
but rumblings from the palace suggest
it hasn't gone down quite so well.
819
00:56:17,749 --> 00:56:20,210
The fallout was bonkers.
820
00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:22,545
Every single front page in the UK was like
821
00:56:22,629 --> 00:56:27,050
very different to what
the general public's reaction was.
822
00:56:29,386 --> 00:56:33,890
When you would expect support
from the people closest,
823
00:56:33,973 --> 00:56:34,973
we got the opposite.
824
00:56:37,769 --> 00:56:40,480
There's only so much
you can take on your own.
825
00:56:40,563 --> 00:56:43,566
So you end up saying,
"Something has to change."
826
00:56:44,984 --> 00:56:46,111
It was a huge turning point.
827
00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:50,073
It's when we started
having harder conversations
828
00:56:50,657 --> 00:56:56,121
about what needs to happen for us
to be able to continue to make this work.
829
00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:16,766
♪ You don't own me ♪
830
00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:21,396
♪ I'm not just one of your many toys ♪
831
00:57:21,479 --> 00:57:24,399
♪ You don't own me ♪
832
00:57:25,024 --> 00:57:31,197
♪ Don't say I can't go with other boys ♪
833
00:57:31,281 --> 00:57:34,826
♪ And don't tell me what to do ♪
834
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:38,830
♪ Don't tell me what to say ♪
835
00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:42,834
♪ And please, when I go out with you ♪
836
00:57:42,917 --> 00:57:48,006
♪ Don't put me on display, 'cause ♪
837
00:57:48,089 --> 00:57:50,675
♪ You don't own me ♪
838
00:57:51,551 --> 00:57:55,555
♪ Don't try to change me in any way ♪
839
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:58,433
♪ You don't own me ♪
840
00:57:59,142 --> 00:58:04,814
♪ Don't tie me down
'Cause I'd never stay ♪
841
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:09,194
♪ I don't tell you what to say ♪
842
00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:12,947
♪ I don't tell you what to do ♪
843
00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:17,035
♪ So just let me be myself ♪
844
00:58:17,118 --> 00:58:20,455
♪ That's all I ask of you ♪
845
00:58:20,538 --> 00:58:24,167
♪ I'm young and I love to be young ♪
846
00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:28,171
♪ I'm free and I love to be free ♪
847
00:58:28,254 --> 00:58:31,716
♪ To live my life the way I want ♪
848
00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:35,553
♪ To say and do whatever I please ♪
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