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[singer] ♪ What a friend ♪
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♪ We have in Jesus ♪
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♪ All our sins ♪
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♪ And grief's to bear ♪
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♪ What a privilege ♪
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♪ To carry ♪
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♪ Everything ♪
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♪ To God in prayer ♪
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[Kathy] Billy?
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Billy?
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Billy, over?
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This is Billy.
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[Kathy] Yeah, Billy we're sorry
to ruin your day off,
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but we got a bad hit and run.
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You better come on back.
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Okay, coming at ya.
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Sorry ol' clubs.
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Official business.
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[siren wailing]
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♪ Everything to God in prayer ♪
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[Mary] I miss Ricky
going to church with us.
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They're grown.
Can go where they want to.
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♪ Is there trouble anywhere ♪
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Hmm, I miss 'em too.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know the only reason
they made you mayor.
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-Why?
-Is 'cause you so handsome.
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-Oh.
-Mm-hmm.
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Is that it?
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And here I was trying
to figure out why.
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Chin up.
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[siren wailing]
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How bad is this hit and run?
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I don't know Billy.
I only been down here.
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Victim in the hospital?
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The body's up the road a piece.
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Near the church, they say.
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Look at that track.
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Something damaged
in the vehicle.
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Leak or a bent tire rubbing.
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Take us right
to the guy's house.
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Piece of cake.
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See ya in a bit.
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Even though I miss the kids,
it's nice to have the house
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to ourselves sometime,
you know?
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So we can, uh--
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No-no-no, huh-uh.
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R.C., we can't keep God waiting.
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Woman, I been waiting on you.
Come on.
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[laughs]
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So baby, about dinner.
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Ricky's coming around four.
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We gonna eat 'round five,
so if you wanna help cook,
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-come early.
-Mm-hmm.
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And can I go home
and change after church?
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Yes, you can do
whatever you want.
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You a grown woman.
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Got to go.
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Official business.
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See ya at the house later.
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How you think it happened?
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First, I thought
that when he got hit
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he got caught up
under the vehicle--
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Mm-hmm.
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--that's how come these tracks
in the road.
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His body?
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May even be worse than that.
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He had these gouge marks
on his ankles.
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When I come back here
where the tracks started and...
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-Mm-hm.
-...then down off onto
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that logging road there,
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and looked like a scene
of a scuffle.
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[man groaning]
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What-what are you saying, Billy?
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He may have been dragged.
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[R.C.] Let's see,
that's about uh...
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three miles up to that church.
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Are you saying that his body
was dumped up there?
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Looks that way to me.
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Damn.
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You know who it was?
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We found a wallet.
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Checking the fingerprints now.
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[dramatic music playing]
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Still no answer.
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Yeah, that's 'cause
he on his way over.
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Here, put the greens out
on the table.
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Okay.
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-[Claire] Hi, Daddy.
-Hi, baby.
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Hey.
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Hey Mama.
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-Look at you.
-Mama.
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-Have you heard the news?
-Where's your brother?
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Parking just as I walked up.
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Terrible what we been hearing.
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You know,
Son ain't answering the phone.
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Probably hung over.
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Hey Pop.
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-My boy.
-How ya doin'?
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-Damn good, and you?
-I'm alright, I'm alright.
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-You hungry?
-You know that.
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Hey baby, how ya doin'?
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-Hey Ma.
-[Stella] Hi darling.
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You hear they beheaded
a Black man last night?
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It passed
through your church, too?
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Mm, stopped the sermon.
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Now Reverend Lyons
told all the young men
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not to go out alone for now.
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I think it was revenge.
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-For that thing last week.
-[Thurman] Mm-hm.
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[Claire] Black man shoots
his White boss
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and somebody's head
gets cut off.
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[James] C'mon it all
ain't nothin' but rumor yet.
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[Stella] Well...
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y'all wanna eat,
or wait for Son?
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-No, I'm ready to eat now.
-No, I ain't waiting.
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[knocks on door]
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Oh, wait, there he is.
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I'm-I'm tired
of waiting for him.
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Can I have the bread, please?
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[James] Playing his foolishness.
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Mama, better fix him a plate
'cause you know
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he's gonna be hungry.
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Son--
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Sheriff Rowles.
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May-may I come in?
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Yeah, yeah, come on in.
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Just eatin' but--
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Oh.
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Afternoon, y'all.
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You arrest Son again?
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No, ma'am.
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I'm afraid I have some bad news.
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[clears throat]
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I don't know
any easy way to say this.
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Your son, James Junior,
was killed.
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[James] What-
what happened, Sheriff?
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We don't know all the details.
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But we have reason to believe
he may have been murdered.
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Oh, daddy. Oh, daddy.
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Oh, no, God.
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I give you my solemn promise
that I will not sleep
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until we find out who did this.
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[dramatic music playing]
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I think we should
all pray together.
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All right?
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Let's hold hands.
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Cigarette butts, baseball cap.
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Nutdriver.
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Nutdriver with S.B.
engraved in it,
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and lighter,
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lighter with Possum
on the bottom side
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and some weird triangle
on the top.
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S.B. think about it now.
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S.B.
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S.B. and Possum.
Sam Brown.
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[Billy] Stu Bullock.
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Son of a bitch must be
eighty years old.
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I doubt it.
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But good thinking.
Listen, we're thinking.
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-That's the main thing.
-[Sgt. Carter] Billy...
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we got something.
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Y'all need to hear this.
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This here's Steven Scott.
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Go on and tell the sheriff
what you told me.
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Go on now, you can tell him.
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Steven, is it?
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Yes, sir.
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Well, Steven, go 'head tell me.
What you got?
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Around one in the morning
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I saw James Byrd walking,
hitching.
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Then these men in a truck
picked him up.
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[deputy] And you just happened
to be there then, boy
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Charlie, will you shut
your mouth?
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Steven don't pay n
o attention to him.
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Did you see who it was?
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They were White.
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What about the truck, Steven?
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-What about that truck?
-[Sgt Carter] What color was it?
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It's okay.
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Light, or white, or tan,
or somethin'.
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Stepside.
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Mufflers were loud.
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Well, you done good, Steven,
to come here
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and I wanna thank you for it.
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Anything else you think about,
you get in touch
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with Sergeant Carter here, okay?
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You take him in,
get a little statement
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and have him sign it.
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You got it.
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Thank you, Steven.
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That's the first
good lead we got.
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That's a hell of a lead.
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It's just too easy.
I don't trust it.
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What, you don't think
it could be a white man?
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Okay we got something
to go with now.
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What y'all working on
in here?
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Take a look.
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S.B. engraved on it.
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What the heck
is this symbol, here? SGT.
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Shawn Berry.
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He got hisself
a gray primered pickup.
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That could look light enough.
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Now here's a man
who is thinking on the job.
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Too bad I promoted you.
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Yeah, you could do it again.
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Don't push it.
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Okay.
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Shawn Berry lives
with Bill King, don't he?
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That's right.
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Bill King calls hisself
Possum sometimes.
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-Has them tattoos.
-Yeah.
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This here is a uh,
Klu Klux Klan deal.
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Forget about the triangle.
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This is three K's
with their ends joined together.
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I think we got us
some trouble here.
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Tell all units
to pick up Shawn Berry.
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This is it now. Here we go.
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[Mary] Why don't ya go on over
and visit the Byrds and...
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we'll all wait 'til you get back
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R.C., he'll be here any minute.
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[R.C.] I know. I know that.
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You know he probably
just stopped to get Mom
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some flowers.
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-[R.C.] Right.
-[chuckles]
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[R.C.] You know uh...
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word is folks are buying guns
for their protection
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and they're gonna patrol
this side of town.
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Lord knows
what that's gonna provoke.
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Go on over to the Byrds'.
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Boy's gonna be here any minute.
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It don't help if you
keep saying that.
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You think
you the only one worried?
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Daddy, it's gonna be all right.
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[Ricky] Something smell good.
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-What's wrong?
-Where you been, boy?
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-I had me a car trouble.
-And did you forget
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your manners?
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When you're late, you call.
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You hear me?
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-Do you hear me!
-I hear ya.
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I hear ya.
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[ominous music playing]
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[James] Now we ain't never
gonna figure out why.
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That's for the police
and the courts.
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And why God chose for this
to happen
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we ain't never gonna know.
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We just gotta trust
and obey him.
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Now ain't that right?
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-[Claire] Oh, mama.
-Amen, amen.
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[James] Amen.
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Amen.
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Y'all.
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If ever you need anything,
please don't hesitate to--
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-Uh, R.C.
-[R.C.] Mm?
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Now sheriff look me
in my eye...
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-Mm-hm.
-...told me he was gonna get
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who did it. But--
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Oh, I-- I hear ya.
Now, I'm gonna be on top of it.
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Don't worry about it.
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Y'hear?
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Well, it's a lot of talk about
guns and revenge.
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00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,124
We don't want
no more violence, R.C.
264
00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:04,561
-Me neither.
-We just want you to try
265
00:18:04,605 --> 00:18:06,911
to keep the peace
no matter what.
266
00:18:06,955 --> 00:18:07,956
I'll do it.
267
00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:12,569
R.C.
268
00:18:17,531 --> 00:18:21,448
Got to make some, uh,
some plans for at the funeral.
269
00:18:23,624 --> 00:18:25,930
Will you take care of the body,
270
00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:29,151
carry him on over
to your parlor?
271
00:18:30,326 --> 00:18:32,415
You should be the one to do it.
272
00:18:33,677 --> 00:18:36,463
He about growed up
with your kids.
273
00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:40,684
[sobs]
274
00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:47,865
Shh.
275
00:18:48,562 --> 00:18:51,434
[dramatic music playing]
276
00:18:52,479 --> 00:18:53,567
All right.
277
00:18:54,655 --> 00:18:56,744
Shh. I'll take care of it.
278
00:19:08,669 --> 00:19:11,759
[indistinct chatter]
279
00:19:14,979 --> 00:19:16,242
How y'all doin'?
280
00:19:19,245 --> 00:19:20,637
[laughter]
281
00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:24,511
Need to talk about some things.
282
00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:27,949
What things?
283
00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,171
Why don't y'all come on down
to the station?
284
00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:40,048
You don't want us to question
you here right
285
00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:42,572
-in front your friends, now.
-[man] We don't care.
286
00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:43,965
[man] Yeah, go 'head.
287
00:19:46,054 --> 00:19:47,186
[clears throat]
288
00:19:51,407 --> 00:19:52,452
Dispatch.
289
00:19:53,888 --> 00:19:55,237
Well, we can sit here
and wait for this paperwork
290
00:19:55,281 --> 00:19:56,673
or you can just come along.
291
00:19:58,109 --> 00:19:59,502
[woman] This is Dispatch.
292
00:20:02,113 --> 00:20:03,202
Your choice.
293
00:20:04,507 --> 00:20:06,117
[woman] Officer,
do you need assistance?
294
00:20:09,773 --> 00:20:11,471
Come in, Officer?
295
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,865
We ain't got no reason not to.
296
00:20:16,432 --> 00:20:17,607
Cancel that.
297
00:20:18,391 --> 00:20:20,001
[woman] We copy.
298
00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:23,439
[man] We'll wait here.
299
00:20:23,483 --> 00:20:25,528
Yeah, keep your beer
cold for ya.
300
00:20:26,312 --> 00:20:28,879
[commentator] Lead down to one,
here they come the other way.
301
00:20:28,923 --> 00:20:30,577
[Walter] I mean
did they know him?
302
00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:33,841
Why'd they do it?
They're sticking to their story.
303
00:20:34,363 --> 00:20:36,626
They were just out
driving last night.
304
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:38,541
[Walter] You know, folks
are saying they were,
305
00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:40,500
uh, they found a note
on 'em talkin' about, uh,
306
00:20:40,543 --> 00:20:42,241
one down, two to go.
307
00:20:43,111 --> 00:20:44,547
Don't know nothin' about that.
308
00:20:45,418 --> 00:20:47,289
Billy said when he finds out,
he'll let me know.
309
00:20:47,768 --> 00:20:49,291
And you're sure
there's just the three of 'em.
310
00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:50,771
I don't know nothing Walter.
311
00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:54,253
Billy just wants me to help
reassure the people
312
00:20:54,296 --> 00:20:56,951
that suspects are in custody.
313
00:20:57,299 --> 00:20:59,301
And are you reassured R.C.?
314
00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:00,650
Is Billy up to solving this?
315
00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,217
And what happens if he isn't?
316
00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:05,264
Walter...
317
00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,048
you're real good on questions.
318
00:21:07,091 --> 00:21:08,919
How you fixed
for answers tonight?
319
00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:12,836
Huh? Mr. Social Activist?
Huh?
320
00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:16,405
I'm sorry.
321
00:21:17,711 --> 00:21:18,712
A'right.
322
00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:21,932
Now they're questioning them
and they're gonna concentrate
323
00:21:21,976 --> 00:21:23,499
on this, uh, boy Berry.
324
00:21:23,543 --> 00:21:25,284
He seems to be the weakest link.
325
00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:27,590
Now I hate to be rude,
but I gotta go to the--
326
00:21:27,634 --> 00:21:28,765
the mortuary.
327
00:21:28,809 --> 00:21:31,115
-Oh, you got James' um--
-Oh, yeah.
328
00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:32,682
Yeah.
329
00:21:32,726 --> 00:21:34,380
[Walter] Oh, that's all right.
I got to get home myself.
330
00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:37,078
Ruth says she's scared, so...
331
00:21:37,992 --> 00:21:39,036
[Billy] Follow my lead.
332
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,473
[Guy James]
It's your show, Billy.
333
00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:54,835
You know who I am?
334
00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:59,318
-You're the D.A.?
-Well, the sheriff the D.A.,
335
00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:01,450
they don't come down here
in the middle of the night,
336
00:22:02,059 --> 00:22:03,887
unless it's awful
serious bad trouble.
337
00:22:04,497 --> 00:22:06,412
Shawn Berry,
look at me straight in the eye.
338
00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:10,111
You're so scared
you can't even breathe.
339
00:22:11,068 --> 00:22:13,114
And you got a good reason, too.
340
00:22:13,157 --> 00:22:15,464
You got a damn good reason.
You know why?
341
00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:16,726
Because we know.
342
00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:17,901
We know.
343
00:22:17,945 --> 00:22:19,468
We know, man.
344
00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:23,690
We know the story, we know--
We know what happened.
345
00:22:23,733 --> 00:22:25,561
Now let me share something
with you, son.
346
00:22:25,953 --> 00:22:28,390
We ain't got a case
on them other two.
347
00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:29,478
We got no case.
348
00:22:30,653 --> 00:22:32,612
But we know they were there.
349
00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:35,919
But we got
that Black guy's blood
350
00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:38,748
on your truck,
and we got your tools
351
00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:40,141
at the crime scene
and right now
352
00:22:40,184 --> 00:22:42,578
you are facing
a capital murder charge.
353
00:22:42,622 --> 00:22:43,666
You got that?
354
00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:48,802
Let that just sit
with you awhile.
355
00:22:48,845 --> 00:22:49,977
Capital murder.
356
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,937
And we know son,
that you ain't like
357
00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:56,375
those other two guys.
We know that.
358
00:22:56,636 --> 00:22:59,247
I mean look at you.
You can't even breathe.
359
00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:02,816
But it's gonna be your ass!
It's your ass, son.
360
00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:12,260
[Guy James] Now
if there's any deals to be made,
361
00:23:12,303 --> 00:23:14,436
first person to talk
usually gets the best treatment.
362
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,395
-That right, Billy?
-[Billy] That's right.
363
00:23:16,699 --> 00:23:18,222
Now you had best think
about that.
364
00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:21,356
You tell us
from the beginning, Shawn.
365
00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:26,317
We was driving.
366
00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:35,979
[Shawn] Wait.
367
00:23:37,111 --> 00:23:40,027
-What deal do I get?
-That's all you got to say?
368
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,638
That's the only thing you got
to say to save your ass?
369
00:23:43,334 --> 00:23:45,554
Son, you are up
for a capital murder charge.
370
00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:46,729
You know what that means?
371
00:23:50,211 --> 00:23:51,908
You wanna try this again or not?
372
00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:56,783
Now that's a little smarter.
373
00:23:57,131 --> 00:23:58,959
Tell me
from the beginning, Shawn.
374
00:23:59,742 --> 00:24:02,005
[Shawn] We was driving. [sniffs]
375
00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,225
[car engine revving]
376
00:24:04,268 --> 00:24:06,314
[Shawn] We picked up
a hitchhiker.
377
00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:14,540
-Y'all going into town?
-[man] Yeah, man,
378
00:24:14,583 --> 00:24:16,542
we're heading into town.
379
00:24:16,585 --> 00:24:18,805
-Mind if I hop in?
-[man] Sure, why don't you hop
380
00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:20,850
-on the back.
-Alright.
381
00:24:26,552 --> 00:24:28,423
We stopped by ol' Huff Creek.
382
00:24:59,149 --> 00:25:00,890
-Want a beer, man?
-[James Jr.] Yeah.
383
00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:02,326
[man] Alright.
384
00:25:05,678 --> 00:25:07,810
King, Brewer.
385
00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:11,901
[ominous music playing]
386
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:19,779
[man] Hey man, you want me
to open that for you?
387
00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:21,302
Yeah.
388
00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:23,347
They said
they was just gonna whup him
389
00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:24,523
and scare him.
390
00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:26,089
-[glass shatters]
-[man] Fuck, yeah!
391
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,048
-[laughing]
-[man] Hell yeah!
392
00:25:28,091 --> 00:25:29,876
[James Jr. groans]
393
00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:32,443
[man] How 'bout that
there nigger, huh?
394
00:25:32,487 --> 00:25:35,185
[man] Beat the motherfucker up
man, hit him.
395
00:25:37,013 --> 00:25:38,928
It's the other guys
that started it.
396
00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:44,804
I tried to leave
when they started
397
00:25:44,847 --> 00:25:45,892
that other stuff.
398
00:25:45,935 --> 00:25:47,458
[James Jr. groans]
399
00:25:50,505 --> 00:25:52,638
[Shawn] The other guys
had started anyway.
400
00:25:52,681 --> 00:25:54,465
[James Jr. screaming]
401
00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:57,033
-[man] He looks bout played out.
-[man] Yeah,
402
00:25:57,077 --> 00:25:58,426
guess he's tired.
403
00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:00,646
-[man] Go, get the chain.
-[man] Right on.
404
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:08,436
[Shawn] Don't touch me, nigger!
Get off!
405
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,049
[Shawn] They started
chaining him to the truck
406
00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:15,138
and I said I didn't think
it was such a good idea.
407
00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:18,098
[man] Hold that
motherfucker still, will ya?
408
00:26:21,362 --> 00:26:23,016
[man] Hey boss,
we'd all set up here.
409
00:26:23,059 --> 00:26:24,626
[man] Alright, alright,
let's get going.
410
00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:26,236
-[man] Ready?
-[man] Yeah, let's go.
411
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,021
[James Jr. screaming]
412
00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:29,370
[car engine starts]
413
00:26:32,765 --> 00:26:34,244
[Shawn]
And then we started driving
414
00:26:34,288 --> 00:26:35,724
and next thing I knew,
I looked back,
415
00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:37,160
he was not there.
416
00:26:39,946 --> 00:26:42,252
Look we just wanted
to fuck with some nigger.
417
00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:46,605
Just got outta hand, is all.
418
00:26:53,916 --> 00:26:55,222
That's a start.
419
00:26:55,831 --> 00:26:57,964
[Billy] One of these days
you're gonna wake up
420
00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:02,838
in such pain,
'cause of what you done.
421
00:27:08,061 --> 00:27:09,279
[door opens]
422
00:27:12,718 --> 00:27:14,458
[R.C.] Let us
have this room, boy.
423
00:27:14,502 --> 00:27:15,634
[man] Yes, sir.
424
00:27:21,944 --> 00:27:23,772
-Come to you.
-Mm-hm.
425
00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,689
-Instead of calling ya.
-Yeah.
426
00:27:28,385 --> 00:27:30,561
-We got us a confession.
-Oh, yeah?
427
00:27:31,911 --> 00:27:34,870
It was just them three
428
00:27:35,262 --> 00:27:37,525
and it was racially motivated.
429
00:27:39,701 --> 00:27:42,008
Anything going on between them
and James?
430
00:27:43,139 --> 00:27:44,793
Just a random victim.
431
00:27:45,794 --> 00:27:47,796
I don't know
what a hate crime is.
432
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:52,235
I mean, exactly
the strict legal wording,
433
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,368
but I think
that's what we got here.
434
00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:59,329
We picked a hell of a time
to get elected, didn't we?
435
00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:04,160
How many, uh,
murders you work on?
436
00:28:04,552 --> 00:28:07,903
Just that one last week
and now this one.
437
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,036
Just two, huh?
438
00:28:11,602 --> 00:28:12,821
Right.
439
00:28:12,865 --> 00:28:15,432
We don't work no murders
in the Highway Patrol.
440
00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:19,219
I called the F.B.I.
down in Beaumont and I told 'em,
441
00:28:19,262 --> 00:28:21,569
I said, "This country boy
needs some help."
442
00:28:22,613 --> 00:28:24,267
Well, I'm gonna send this body
down there,
443
00:28:24,311 --> 00:28:26,617
get me some expert autopsy.
444
00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:30,404
I'm going down there
first thing tomorrow.
445
00:28:30,447 --> 00:28:32,188
They're sending agents up here.
446
00:28:32,232 --> 00:28:34,364
This ain't gonna fall on us,
Mr. Mayor.
447
00:28:35,844 --> 00:28:37,454
The Feds is takin'
this one over.
448
00:28:37,498 --> 00:28:39,413
They damn well better.
449
00:28:40,414 --> 00:28:42,938
[dramatic music playing]
450
00:28:52,078 --> 00:28:53,427
[camera shutter clicks]
451
00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:04,525
[Mike Lout] Good morning Jasper
452
00:29:04,568 --> 00:29:07,920
K.J.A.S. Radio bringing you
the latest updates.
453
00:29:08,877 --> 00:29:10,661
The police have still not
released the names
454
00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:12,751
of the three white men
being held in custody
455
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:15,057
for the death of James Byrd
last night.
456
00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:16,972
Sources inside
the Sheriff's Department
457
00:29:17,016 --> 00:29:20,019
refuse to confirm
or deny racism as a possible
458
00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:21,629
motive for his death.
459
00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:24,675
They do confirm however
that no charges have been laid,
460
00:29:24,719 --> 00:29:26,590
pending further investigation.
461
00:29:27,113 --> 00:29:29,115
Sports and weather up next
after this classic
462
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,160
from 1975.
463
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:37,732
Kathy?
464
00:29:40,387 --> 00:29:42,389
I'm almost to the office.
465
00:29:42,432 --> 00:29:44,608
Get ready for a surprise.
466
00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:46,828
-[Billy] What kind?
-Uh--
467
00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:48,612
[Billy] Oh, shit.
468
00:29:56,055 --> 00:29:58,231
Sheriff, Sheriff,
can you make a comment
469
00:29:58,274 --> 00:30:00,102
on what these men
are being charged with, sir?
470
00:30:00,146 --> 00:30:01,800
Sheriff, Sheriff,
are these three men
471
00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:02,801
in the Klan, sir?
472
00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:06,152
[Billy] I can't make a comment
on anything at this time.
473
00:30:06,195 --> 00:30:08,023
Sir, do you believe
that there are more
474
00:30:08,067 --> 00:30:09,285
suspects around, sir?
475
00:30:09,329 --> 00:30:11,722
I just gotta get
to my office right now.
476
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:16,205
So, uh, Mr. Mayor,
is Huff Creek Road,
477
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:18,033
is that in the town
or in the county?
478
00:30:18,729 --> 00:30:20,775
It's-- It's the county.
It sits right on the edge
479
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,211
of the city.
480
00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:25,475
What that got to do
with what happened there down
481
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,913
-down the road?
-Now, is that maintained
482
00:30:27,956 --> 00:30:29,392
using federal funds?
483
00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,742
I don't rightly know.
You're gonna have to ask
484
00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:33,657
the City Manager about that.
485
00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:36,835
[Bradford] City Manager.
And how do I get hold of him?
486
00:30:37,183 --> 00:30:38,097
Excuse me?
487
00:30:39,315 --> 00:30:40,316
-Kathy, messages?
-[Kathy] Whole bunch.
488
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,883
-More to come.
-Ooh.
489
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:44,016
Sheriff, Don Clark,
F.B.I. Houston.
490
00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:46,583
Hey, Don.
Good to see ya.
491
00:30:46,627 --> 00:30:48,455
You're gonna have to hold
a press conference.
492
00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,718
Oh, no, this is your deal now.
Not mine.
493
00:30:50,761 --> 00:30:52,763
No, we're just up here to help
process the evidence.
494
00:30:52,807 --> 00:30:54,853
I just come from your office
in Beaumont.
495
00:30:55,288 --> 00:30:56,898
Until jurisdiction
is established, your--
496
00:30:56,942 --> 00:30:58,334
This is a civil rights
violation.
497
00:30:58,378 --> 00:30:59,770
It's onto you guys.
498
00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:02,556
Good to see ya, Don.
499
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,645
He's over there at City Hall.
That's where all the
500
00:31:04,688 --> 00:31:06,777
-all the City Managers are at.
-All right, so, uh,
501
00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:08,344
-his number will--
-Wait a minute.
502
00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:10,216
What does that have to do
with what happened
503
00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:12,479
-down the road down there?
-The Attorney General's Office
504
00:31:12,522 --> 00:31:14,611
doesn't think there're enough
facts yet for it to fall
505
00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:16,700
-under Hate Crime Law.
-What kind of facts they need?
506
00:31:17,049 --> 00:31:19,051
-Mr. Mayor, Don Clark, F.B.I.
-[Billy] I mean
507
00:31:19,094 --> 00:31:21,183
the man was killed
'cause of his color, wasn't he?
508
00:31:21,227 --> 00:31:22,402
Just 'cause he was Black.
509
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:24,752
It's plain and simple.
You heard that son of a bitch.
510
00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:27,581
We went to fuck with an N.
511
00:31:29,322 --> 00:31:31,367
There's no other reason,
and that's why...
512
00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:35,154
-it belongs to the F.B.I.
-Not necessarily.
513
00:31:35,197 --> 00:31:37,286
-Not necessarily?
-Still has to be
514
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:38,548
sorted out, Billy.
515
00:31:38,592 --> 00:31:40,899
In the meantime
you need a press conference.
516
00:31:40,942 --> 00:31:42,552
Who's your media person?
517
00:31:43,727 --> 00:31:44,990
Look around.
518
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:48,080
I'm just a little bitty outfit.
519
00:31:48,428 --> 00:31:50,430
Well, I brought my media
guy with me.
520
00:31:50,734 --> 00:31:52,649
And based on the facts so far
he's drawn up
521
00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:53,912
a standard statement.
522
00:31:53,955 --> 00:31:55,783
All you have to do is read it.
523
00:31:56,175 --> 00:31:57,393
And avoid specific answers.
524
00:31:57,437 --> 00:31:59,613
Just say, no comment,
that sort of thing.
525
00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:05,880
A full spectrum
of law enforcement agencies
526
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:08,970
on both the local
and federal level are involved
527
00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:13,496
in this investigation
which will be exhaustive
528
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,020
and thorough.
529
00:32:15,063 --> 00:32:19,111
But at this juncture
it would be premature
530
00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:24,507
to speculate beyond
the he-inus--heinous nature
531
00:32:24,551 --> 00:32:27,684
of the crime
as we understand it
532
00:32:27,728 --> 00:32:28,859
at this point.
533
00:32:29,556 --> 00:32:31,601
Well, you know,
given our employment rate,
534
00:32:31,645 --> 00:32:33,777
we should be getting, you know,
more Section Eight
535
00:32:33,821 --> 00:32:35,257
housing funds.
536
00:32:35,779 --> 00:32:36,824
Excuse me, Walter.
537
00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:38,826
I think you better turn on
K.J.A.S.
538
00:32:38,869 --> 00:32:40,393
Okay, thank you.
539
00:32:40,436 --> 00:32:44,832
Uh, well, I appreciate
your sympathy, but I would, uh,
540
00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:47,008
prefer housing funds.
541
00:32:49,358 --> 00:32:50,881
[Billy]
Other than murder--
542
00:32:50,925 --> 00:32:53,232
[Walter] Yeah, well,
how long's that gonna take?
543
00:32:53,275 --> 00:32:56,104
[Billy] No determination
has been made
544
00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:59,064
-concerning this issue which--
-Wait. Is that Billy Rowles?
545
00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:02,763
--may be brought against
the accused pending
546
00:33:02,806 --> 00:33:06,245
further investigation
of their possible,
547
00:33:06,288 --> 00:33:08,638
uh, connection
to extremist movements.
548
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:11,990
-That's it.
-Sheriff, sheriff,
549
00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:14,122
-was this a hate crime?
-[camera shutters]
550
00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:19,084
-No comment.
-[woman] Sheriff,
551
00:33:19,127 --> 00:33:20,346
was this racial?
552
00:33:20,824 --> 00:33:22,826
We're looking into
all this deal.
553
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:24,654
This is a case
under investigation.
554
00:33:24,698 --> 00:33:26,830
Is there Ku Klux Klan
in Jasper?
555
00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:30,008
I'm not aware of any Klan...
556
00:33:30,051 --> 00:33:31,487
[Thelma]
He's not telling the truth.
557
00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:33,750
Yeah, well, thank you,
Thelma Davis.
558
00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:35,100
[reporter]
Mayor, what about you?
559
00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:36,231
Do you agree
with the sheriff?
560
00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:37,363
Is there Klan here?
561
00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:42,020
[R.C.] Uh, ain't seen any
as long as uh, I live here.
562
00:33:42,063 --> 00:33:43,630
[Thelma] He always sides
with the White man.
563
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:45,936
He ain't nothin'
but a Uncle Tom.
564
00:33:45,980 --> 00:33:48,635
That's it. That's all we got
to say for right now.
565
00:33:48,678 --> 00:33:51,246
[all talking at once]
566
00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:53,988
[Billy]
Don't pay 'em no mind, R.C.
567
00:33:54,249 --> 00:33:57,165
[R.C.] Uh, easy to say.
Wasn't said to you.
568
00:33:57,209 --> 00:33:58,471
[Clark] You did good.
569
00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:00,125
[Guy James] Oh, bullshit.
That was terrible.
570
00:34:00,168 --> 00:34:02,301
[Billy] Are you guys gonna
take this thing over or what?
571
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:03,998
[Clark sighs] We can't say yet.
572
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:05,391
[Billy] Sounds like no to me.
573
00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:07,306
Then we gotta do this
regular folks way.
574
00:34:07,349 --> 00:34:08,568
-And that starts with--
-Hey.
575
00:34:08,611 --> 00:34:10,265
--talking regular
English language.
576
00:34:10,309 --> 00:34:11,919
-[Walter] R.C., man.
-No one understood
577
00:34:11,962 --> 00:34:13,225
-one word of this. Here.
-Yeah.
578
00:34:13,268 --> 00:34:14,356
[Walter] You okay?
579
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,010
Comes with the job.
580
00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:17,577
-Hey, Walter.
-Billy.
581
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:19,361
-Good to see ya.
-[Walter] How ya doin', man?
582
00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:21,624
-Was you out there?
-No I heard it on the radio.
583
00:34:21,668 --> 00:34:23,539
Oh, some shit storm,
I'll tell ya.
584
00:34:23,583 --> 00:34:25,933
[R.C.] Listen up y'all.
This here is Walter Diggles
585
00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:28,240
from the Deep East Texas
Council of Governments.
586
00:34:28,283 --> 00:34:30,024
If we're gonna get stuck
with this,
587
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,070
we gotta generate
some good will.
588
00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:34,115
-You bet.
-He's a city boy,
589
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,075
like some of you all.
Used to live in Dallas...
590
00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:39,338
'til he moved back here.
591
00:34:39,947 --> 00:34:41,688
R.C., you know
what I'm thinkin'?
592
00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:45,039
I'm thinkin' that the uh--
we should just give
593
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,563
the Affidavit of Probable Cause
to all them reporters.
594
00:34:47,607 --> 00:34:49,652
What we got to do
is get in touch
595
00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:52,133
with The Ministers' Alliance.
Tell them what we know.
596
00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:54,092
Yeah, it's important
that we're all united.
597
00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:56,181
Uh, and I hope you don't mind
Billy but uh,
598
00:34:56,224 --> 00:34:58,444
is it okay if, uh--
Agent Clark, is that right?
599
00:34:58,487 --> 00:35:00,054
If uh, if he comes along?
600
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:03,144
Oh, hell, I think this thing
should be wide open.
601
00:35:03,449 --> 00:35:05,625
Why ministers, Mr. Mayor?
602
00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:08,018
Well, let me put it this way.
603
00:35:08,062 --> 00:35:10,804
Got eight thousand people
and forty churches.
604
00:35:11,457 --> 00:35:13,633
-That give you a hint?
-[chuckles]
605
00:35:13,676 --> 00:35:15,374
[Billy] Stick around.
Get some religion.
606
00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:16,897
-[chuckles]
-Real fast.
607
00:35:17,463 --> 00:35:20,553
[screaming]
608
00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:23,991
Well, you all know,
that's the forensics stuff.
609
00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:26,254
Now you all know everything
that I know.
610
00:35:26,907 --> 00:35:28,822
[clears throat] And that's why
I believe it's, uh,
611
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:30,737
should be open,
wide open between us.
612
00:35:31,868 --> 00:35:34,480
Course we ain't gonna go to
the press with all this but--
613
00:35:35,742 --> 00:35:37,744
-[whispering]
---shared responsibility.
614
00:35:37,787 --> 00:35:40,703
Uh, Sheriff, uh [clears throat]
um, excuse me.
615
00:35:40,747 --> 00:35:42,879
This is kind of hard
to say uh...
616
00:35:43,315 --> 00:35:47,145
but before we can uh, uh,
do anything you ask
617
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:50,365
and how do we know
that those are all the facts?
618
00:35:50,931 --> 00:35:52,802
Ain't I always been straight
with you?
619
00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:56,284
[Clark] Gentlemen,
what the sheriff has told you
620
00:35:56,328 --> 00:35:58,068
was all anyone knows right now.
621
00:35:58,112 --> 00:36:01,246
[Reverend] Look here,
if you want us just to go along
622
00:36:01,289 --> 00:36:03,422
and say there ain't
no problem here,
623
00:36:03,465 --> 00:36:05,511
well, there ain't no sense
in having this meeting.
624
00:36:05,554 --> 00:36:07,861
[Walter] Now there's a time
and place for everything now.
625
00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:09,515
-Come on.
-Hold it now, hold it now.
626
00:36:09,558 --> 00:36:11,256
It's time
to cool things down now.
627
00:36:11,517 --> 00:36:13,780
Everybody gotta stick together.
You got to go back
628
00:36:13,823 --> 00:36:16,391
to your congregation
and tell the folks
629
00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:19,394
that the law is on the job.
Now don't do nothing foolish.
630
00:36:19,438 --> 00:36:21,875
We all have got to stick
together here.
631
00:36:23,093 --> 00:36:26,488
I uh, I agree with Mayor Horn.
632
00:36:26,532 --> 00:36:30,188
[R.C.] All right,
now we're in a bind here, y'all.
633
00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:32,277
Jasper is in trouble.
634
00:36:32,799 --> 00:36:35,236
It could go up
just like Los Angeles.
635
00:36:35,889 --> 00:36:37,195
You hear me?
636
00:36:40,023 --> 00:36:42,156
I need your help.
637
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,203
A'right?
638
00:36:46,247 --> 00:36:48,206
[Billy] Press time again, R.C.?
639
00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:50,164
-You do it, man.
-Thank you.
640
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:51,905
Will the men be tried
here in Jasper?
641
00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:53,994
Actually we don't know that yet.
642
00:36:54,037 --> 00:36:55,561
We're gonna do
what's best for the case.
643
00:36:55,865 --> 00:36:58,390
Are you representing
all the people of the town?
644
00:36:58,912 --> 00:37:01,393
Y'all need to give these people
a chance, now.
645
00:37:01,436 --> 00:37:04,222
You know, we know them.
They represent us, we live here.
646
00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:06,702
It's too early
to make a judgment, you know?
647
00:37:06,746 --> 00:37:08,530
I mean we got to give time
648
00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:10,097
for the system to work.
That's all.
649
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:11,838
Or more time
to beat around the bush.
650
00:37:11,881 --> 00:37:14,101
You know what, you need to be
a lot more respectful.
651
00:37:14,144 --> 00:37:16,408
-Somebody just died here today.
-Walter, how much time?
652
00:37:16,451 --> 00:37:18,105
-[reporter] Mayor Horn?
-[R.C.] Yeah?
653
00:37:18,148 --> 00:37:20,499
[reporter]
Is Jasper a racist town?
654
00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:23,197
[camera shutter clicks]
655
00:37:25,721 --> 00:37:27,157
Now look y'all.
656
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,726
And what happened on Sunday,
and that was horrible,
657
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:33,251
but that was just three men.
658
00:37:33,294 --> 00:37:34,861
That were not the whole town
of Jasper.
659
00:37:34,904 --> 00:37:37,516
Now we got a lot
of Black officials in this town.
660
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:41,041
We got the mayor,
we got the City Council Member,
661
00:37:41,084 --> 00:37:44,653
we got the School Board
Superintendent,
662
00:37:45,001 --> 00:37:47,221
Hospital Administrator.
663
00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:50,311
Now Blacks and Whites
get along here.
664
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:53,009
This is a town about
loving each other.
665
00:37:53,053 --> 00:37:55,316
Like those men loved Mr. Byrd?
666
00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:01,757
[dramatic music playing]
667
00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:08,503
[birds chirping]
668
00:38:25,999 --> 00:38:27,827
They're looking to crucify us.
669
00:38:28,131 --> 00:38:29,785
They come down here
looking for rednecks
670
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:32,135
and they damn sure're
gonna find them, no matter what.
671
00:38:32,179 --> 00:38:34,877
Now that's why we're gonna just
keep standing behind ya Billy,
672
00:38:34,921 --> 00:38:37,358
-that's all.
-You guys know what would've
673
00:38:37,402 --> 00:38:39,447
-made this crime federal?
-What?
674
00:38:39,491 --> 00:38:41,797
If they'd left him
right on the church steps,
675
00:38:42,363 --> 00:38:43,886
preventing folks
their right to worship.
676
00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:46,324
But they left him a hundred
and seven feet from there.
677
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:48,369
They measured it.
Now how close,
678
00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:50,197
how close'd it have to be?
679
00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:53,679
-Hi Billy.
-[R.C.] Hey.
680
00:38:53,722 --> 00:38:55,550
-[Billy] Hey buns.
-[Jamie] You two-timing me
681
00:38:55,594 --> 00:38:57,987
with these fellas?
Y'all seeing him more than I do.
682
00:38:58,031 --> 00:39:00,512
-[Walter] How ya doin', Jamie?
-How's things over in Orange?
683
00:39:00,555 --> 00:39:02,340
Whole department's waiting
to help y'all.
684
00:39:02,688 --> 00:39:05,386
-Appreciate that.
-We could use it, I guess.
685
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:07,823
[R.C.] Well, we better
leave you two alone.
686
00:39:07,867 --> 00:39:09,390
-[Jamie] All right.
-Good night y'all.
687
00:39:09,434 --> 00:39:11,566
-[Jamie] Good night.
-Hey, thanks.
688
00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:14,177
-Thanks, guys.
-[R.C.] You're welcome.
689
00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:18,878
-[sighs]
-How you really doing?
690
00:39:21,837 --> 00:39:23,317
Can't be worse.
691
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:26,320
[crickets chirping]
692
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,931
You gotta be more careful
with the reporters, R.C.
693
00:39:28,975 --> 00:39:31,369
You don't tell 'em everything's
under control if it ain't.
694
00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:34,067
If you don't know something,
just say, I don't know.
695
00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:37,244
But I'm the first to say that
I don't know what I'm doing,
696
00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:41,553
which could be most of the time,
but I'm just a mortuary owner
697
00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:43,381
who just got lucky
and became mayor.
698
00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:45,295
I can't do what you do.
699
00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:48,647
Everything we each built here
is riding on how this comes out.
700
00:39:49,212 --> 00:39:50,997
Everybody's watching to see
what we do.
701
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,390
[Walter] Yeah.
702
00:39:52,868 --> 00:39:56,916
That atrocity shocked
the conscience of the country
703
00:39:57,220 --> 00:40:00,006
and a strong response
is clearly needed.
704
00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:02,574
I ask for your thoughts
and your prayers
705
00:40:02,617 --> 00:40:04,663
to be with the family
of Mr. Byrd today,
706
00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:08,449
and with the people
of that community.
707
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:10,233
[all talking at once]
708
00:40:13,585 --> 00:40:14,716
[reporter] Mrs. Byrd,
709
00:40:16,152 --> 00:40:17,284
Mr. Byrd, what would you like
to see done to them?
710
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,766
That they be punished
for what they did.
711
00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:22,420
Would you like them
to get the death penalty?
712
00:40:22,811 --> 00:40:25,292
That's up to the law to decide.
713
00:40:25,727 --> 00:40:27,468
But they killed your son.
714
00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:29,209
Don't you feel hatred
towards them?
715
00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:30,689
[James] We angry, yes.
716
00:40:31,385 --> 00:40:33,996
But we don't hate 'em.
What good would it do?
717
00:40:34,823 --> 00:40:38,479
No matter what the law decides,
this is a test of our faith.
718
00:40:38,523 --> 00:40:40,612
We have to keep our faith
in God.
719
00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:42,918
[reporter] Mr. Byrd, do you uh,
do you blame the town--
720
00:40:42,962 --> 00:40:44,920
[Thurman] Hey you know what,
we answered enough
721
00:40:44,964 --> 00:40:46,661
of your questions.
All right, we gotta go.
722
00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:48,358
-Come on.
-[reporter] Mr. Byrd Jr....
723
00:40:48,402 --> 00:40:50,012
[Thurman] Come on.
Excuse me, please.
724
00:40:50,056 --> 00:40:51,797
[reporter] Mr. Byrd,
one more question?
725
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,320
I lived here my whole life.
726
00:40:53,363 --> 00:40:55,322
Never feared walking
the streets.
727
00:40:55,365 --> 00:40:57,629
[reporter] Mrs. Byrd, Mrs. Byrd,
would you--would you agree
728
00:40:57,672 --> 00:40:59,500
with people who say that
things are tough
729
00:40:59,544 --> 00:41:01,110
for uh, Blacks here in Jasper?
730
00:41:01,154 --> 00:41:02,938
Things are tough
for folks all over.
731
00:41:03,417 --> 00:41:05,637
[reporter] Mr. Byrd, how do you
feel about Jesse Jackson
732
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,987
and Al Sharpton and the others
coming to your son's funeral?
733
00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:10,032
My son is dead.
734
00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:13,035
I don't wanna see his funeral
turned into some kind of circus!
735
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,168
Move that truck right there,
all right, move it!
736
00:41:15,211 --> 00:41:17,736
[Walter] Now you know I've been
talking to the governor's office
737
00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:20,434
and-and all they're concerned
about as far as the funeral goes
738
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:22,610
is whether Mr. Gore
is gonna show up or not.
739
00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:24,482
I don't care if Gore
shows up or not.
740
00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:25,831
He can stay home.
741
00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:27,485
But Mr. Bush cares.
And that's the only thing
742
00:41:27,528 --> 00:41:28,747
gonna get him down here
743
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,662
or anybody out of his office
down here.
744
00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:32,925
-We got us a little problem.
-What's that?
745
00:41:33,273 --> 00:41:35,231
You ever met any Black Panthers?
746
00:41:35,275 --> 00:41:37,495
Billy, not all Black folks
know each other.
747
00:41:37,538 --> 00:41:40,149
[clears throat]
Well, they're coming in tomorrow
748
00:41:40,193 --> 00:41:42,456
from Houston,
according to F.B.I.
749
00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:45,459
They're planning on
patrolling the streets armed.
750
00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:48,941
On the day of the funeral?
751
00:41:48,984 --> 00:41:50,725
-Cup o' Joe, please.
-We gotta figure out
752
00:41:50,769 --> 00:41:52,814
what the hell
we're gonna do about it.
753
00:41:53,423 --> 00:41:55,338
I'll tell ya what,
I don't want no Panthers
754
00:41:55,382 --> 00:41:57,210
running around here
with guns, period.
755
00:41:57,253 --> 00:41:59,908
[Guy James] Now we could arrest
'em all, take their guns away,
756
00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:01,519
put 'em in jail
for this or that.
757
00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:03,521
It's a Class A misdemeanor
to carry a firearm
758
00:42:03,782 --> 00:42:05,131
with intent to cause
public alarm.
759
00:42:05,174 --> 00:42:06,611
I do not know that
that is a good idea.
760
00:42:06,654 --> 00:42:08,917
So we just let 'em come in here,
armed, walk around town,
761
00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:11,354
-protecting the community.
-I'm not saying that either.
762
00:42:11,398 --> 00:42:13,705
[R.C.] Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait a minute, wait a minute.
763
00:42:13,748 --> 00:42:15,141
[R.C.] Look.
And then now what if,
764
00:42:15,184 --> 00:42:16,795
and I'm not saying
this is gonna happen,
765
00:42:16,838 --> 00:42:19,885
but what if when we go
to disarm them
766
00:42:19,928 --> 00:42:21,974
and they resist, and one of them
rifles goes off
767
00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:24,498
and shoots one of us, hm,
or worse?
768
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,152
Shoots one of the kids
in the yard?
769
00:42:26,979 --> 00:42:29,372
[Guy James] On the other hand,
all it takes is one redneck
770
00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:31,549
to go and get his gun
and shoot someone
771
00:42:31,592 --> 00:42:33,638
'cause everybody's
walking around with their guns,
772
00:42:33,681 --> 00:42:35,553
and then we got some
serious problems.
773
00:42:38,817 --> 00:42:41,297
[Billy] I want a pie, please?
774
00:42:41,341 --> 00:42:42,821
[Waitress] It's coming up, baby.
775
00:42:42,864 --> 00:42:45,606
R.C., What do you think
we oughta do?
776
00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:51,612
Can we get some help
from the State?
777
00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:54,006
-[scoffs]
-We already asked them.
778
00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:55,442
They're not gonna be behind this
779
00:42:55,485 --> 00:42:57,139
if it means
taking their guns away.
780
00:42:58,401 --> 00:43:00,099
[Billy] Well, all we got left,
781
00:43:00,708 --> 00:43:04,059
is to play some poker,
hope they don't call our bluff.
782
00:43:05,234 --> 00:43:07,497
-Have one of them fries?
-Yeah.
783
00:43:11,501 --> 00:43:13,199
[grunting]
784
00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:18,117
You about as nervous
as a cat on a griddle.
785
00:43:19,379 --> 00:43:21,381
I thought things
would be easier.
786
00:43:22,904 --> 00:43:25,385
Say a few speeches,
cut a few ribbons,
787
00:43:26,168 --> 00:43:28,606
maybe make things
a little bit better.
788
00:43:31,652 --> 00:43:33,045
I should've listened to y'all.
789
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:34,960
Not let them nominate me.
790
00:43:35,482 --> 00:43:37,832
It was a chance to have
a Black mayor, Dad.
791
00:43:40,356 --> 00:43:42,054
You're the only one folks
could agree on.
792
00:43:42,097 --> 00:43:45,187
Yeah, right.
I beat a town drunk,
793
00:43:46,014 --> 00:43:47,537
and a crazy man.
794
00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:50,628
If only Mayor Lindsey
hadn't retired.
795
00:43:50,671 --> 00:43:53,195
Well, he did,
and you got it now.
796
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:57,330
What ya gonna do?
797
00:43:58,070 --> 00:43:59,506
I don't know.
798
00:44:00,115 --> 00:44:02,988
I got to represent
the whole town, I know that.
799
00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:05,425
Can't speak my own mind.
800
00:44:07,383 --> 00:44:09,647
People sayin' old mayor
still runs things.
801
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:14,303
Is that what you think, Ricky?
802
00:44:14,739 --> 00:44:16,262
-Ricky.
-Come on now, Dad.
803
00:44:16,305 --> 00:44:17,785
[R.C.] Is that what you think?
804
00:44:23,008 --> 00:44:24,662
[Mary] What's wrong with you?
805
00:44:26,533 --> 00:44:29,188
[Panther] Move out.
Go, go, go, go. Let's go.
806
00:44:30,102 --> 00:44:31,146
Go.
807
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:34,628
[upbeat music playing]
808
00:44:48,294 --> 00:44:51,558
[Billy] You all can't march
in downtown Jasper
809
00:44:51,601 --> 00:44:53,429
without a parade permit.
810
00:44:53,473 --> 00:44:55,388
And how long
is that gonna take?
811
00:44:55,431 --> 00:44:56,694
[Billy] About a week.
812
00:44:57,172 --> 00:44:58,957
But you're welcome to march
once you got one.
813
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,698
[Khalid X]
We're gonna march today.
814
00:45:00,741 --> 00:45:02,177
I know my rights.
815
00:45:02,221 --> 00:45:05,703
My constitutional right
to assemble, free assembly.
816
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:08,009
This here is just
a courtesy visit
817
00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:09,707
to let you know
what we're going to do.
818
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:13,319
Well, you know
he does have a point,
819
00:45:13,754 --> 00:45:15,277
about his rights.
820
00:45:17,192 --> 00:45:20,587
What if they was to march
up here?
821
00:45:21,631 --> 00:45:22,981
Would they need a permit?
822
00:45:23,024 --> 00:45:25,287
Would they have to have a permit
to march up here?
823
00:45:25,331 --> 00:45:26,767
In the back streets?
824
00:45:27,637 --> 00:45:28,726
No I don't think so.
825
00:45:30,292 --> 00:45:31,163
-Be all right with the city.
-[R.C.] Yeah-yeah, but uh...
826
00:45:32,294 --> 00:45:33,382
you can't go marching
by the church.
827
00:45:33,426 --> 00:45:34,688
Now you don't wanna upset
the family
828
00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:36,342
-in their time of grief.
-Don't you think
829
00:45:36,385 --> 00:45:37,430
that's up to them?
830
00:45:37,473 --> 00:45:38,953
They might wanna march with us.
831
00:45:38,997 --> 00:45:41,608
Let me just make this
one last point, about the guns.
832
00:45:41,651 --> 00:45:43,262
You can march with signs
if you want to.
833
00:45:43,523 --> 00:45:45,307
You can tell us
where we can march,
834
00:45:45,351 --> 00:45:47,309
but you can't say nothin'
about the guns.
835
00:45:47,353 --> 00:45:48,963
-[claps]
-This here
836
00:45:49,007 --> 00:45:51,226
is my N.R.A. membership card.
All of my people got one too.
837
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,663
-[Walter] Brother, come on.
-[Khalid X] We know every comma
838
00:45:53,707 --> 00:45:56,101
and period there is in the laws
of the State of Texas
839
00:45:56,144 --> 00:45:57,580
about carrying guns.
840
00:45:57,624 --> 00:46:00,453
And if you country boys,
brother,
841
00:46:00,496 --> 00:46:02,585
think you're gonna take them
from us,
842
00:46:03,935 --> 00:46:05,371
you are greatly mistaken.
843
00:46:10,637 --> 00:46:14,772
Uh, we have not invited
these people here.
844
00:46:15,598 --> 00:46:17,992
Uh, so I'm asking uh,
845
00:46:18,036 --> 00:46:21,039
all you citizens of uh,
of Jasper
846
00:46:21,343 --> 00:46:24,433
to stay out the way
and stay in your homes
847
00:46:24,869 --> 00:46:26,392
and don't interfere in any way.
848
00:46:26,740 --> 00:46:30,135
Uh, let them
do their thing.
849
00:46:30,918 --> 00:46:33,007
Everything
is under control.
850
00:46:33,051 --> 00:46:34,574
Listening audience
the same thing,
851
00:46:34,617 --> 00:46:36,663
these people don't represent
Jasper.
852
00:46:36,706 --> 00:46:37,795
-Right.
-It's time for us
853
00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:40,710
to all pull together
and show our character.
854
00:46:40,754 --> 00:46:44,323
Let them see exactly--
let the world see
855
00:46:44,366 --> 00:46:46,934
who Jasper really is.
A city of love.
856
00:46:46,978 --> 00:46:49,197
[Walter] That's right, and what
Reverend said is true.
857
00:46:49,241 --> 00:46:51,243
I mean, the whole world
is watching us right now.
858
00:46:51,286 --> 00:46:52,679
-That's right.
-[Walter] And they're all
859
00:46:52,722 --> 00:46:53,985
looking at us to see
what we're gonna do
860
00:46:54,028 --> 00:46:55,595
and see what kind of people
we are here.
861
00:46:55,638 --> 00:46:57,640
You know, this is the time
for all of us to sort of
862
00:46:57,684 --> 00:46:59,251
reach down
into our hearts,
863
00:46:59,294 --> 00:47:00,948
and all become part
of who we are.
864
00:47:00,992 --> 00:47:03,429
You know, because this is
a very unique
865
00:47:03,472 --> 00:47:05,910
community here in Jasper.
I mean, you know...
866
00:47:06,432 --> 00:47:08,086
none of our
surrounding communities
867
00:47:08,129 --> 00:47:11,524
you know, have,
or would have a Black mayor.
868
00:47:11,567 --> 00:47:13,395
[footsteps]
869
00:47:18,009 --> 00:47:20,141
We don't need the Black Panthers
to come down here
870
00:47:20,185 --> 00:47:22,491
and tell us who we are
and what we should do.
871
00:47:22,535 --> 00:47:23,710
We know who we are.
872
00:47:23,753 --> 00:47:25,233
So everybody
just keep that in mind.
873
00:47:25,277 --> 00:47:27,366
-Yeah. We know who we are.
-[Walter] That's right.
874
00:47:27,409 --> 00:47:30,021
[reporter] James Byrd's funeral
brought civil rights leaders
875
00:47:30,064 --> 00:47:32,414
and politicians
from around the country.
876
00:47:32,458 --> 00:47:34,416
[Waters] We're so sorry
and we're so pained,
877
00:47:35,113 --> 00:47:37,550
we're so hurt that
this incident
878
00:47:37,593 --> 00:47:40,422
has taken place in 1998.
879
00:47:40,988 --> 00:47:43,382
[ominous music playing]
880
00:47:43,425 --> 00:47:45,558
[thunder rumbling]
881
00:47:48,256 --> 00:47:51,303
[man vocalizing]
882
00:48:38,741 --> 00:48:40,004
[gunshots]
883
00:48:40,874 --> 00:48:43,790
[gunshots on recorder]
884
00:48:45,096 --> 00:48:45,966
[recorder clicks]
885
00:48:47,402 --> 00:48:48,360
[R.C.] That's what we heard
on the answering machine
886
00:48:48,403 --> 00:48:49,839
when I got home.
887
00:48:50,884 --> 00:48:53,713
R.C., you gotta have security,
888
00:48:54,018 --> 00:48:56,672
let us know where you're going
so we can keep an eye on ya.
889
00:48:57,586 --> 00:48:59,937
And what about Mary,
what about the house?
890
00:49:00,894 --> 00:49:02,200
Keep it patrolled.
891
00:49:03,505 --> 00:49:05,203
It's you I'm worried about.
892
00:49:08,075 --> 00:49:10,686
Maybe you oughta go to see
your sister,
893
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:13,298
just until this thing
calms down, blows over?
894
00:49:14,299 --> 00:49:16,562
And leave you here all alone?
895
00:49:18,085 --> 00:49:21,654
I stood up in church and swore
I was with you
896
00:49:21,697 --> 00:49:22,872
for better or worse.
897
00:49:24,178 --> 00:49:26,180
I ain't goin' nowhere.
898
00:49:30,184 --> 00:49:31,881
What am I gonna do with her?
899
00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:36,712
Now I need an honest answer.
900
00:49:37,757 --> 00:49:39,889
You think this trial can be, uh,
done here?
901
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:44,503
-Well, Guy James.
-[R.C.] Yeah.
902
00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:47,375
[Walter] He likes to make deals.
I don't think he's tried
903
00:49:47,419 --> 00:49:51,249
a capital crime since like
what, uh, '91, '92?
904
00:49:51,684 --> 00:49:54,208
And Billy, well, you know,
he ain't never been around
905
00:49:54,252 --> 00:49:55,644
anything like
D.N.A. evidence.
906
00:49:55,688 --> 00:49:57,516
Well, he got the F.B.I.'s help.
907
00:49:57,864 --> 00:49:59,866
R.C., he had to call them in.
908
00:49:59,909 --> 00:50:01,781
I mean a man's head
was lying there
909
00:50:01,824 --> 00:50:03,696
and the story's all across
the squawk boxes,
910
00:50:03,739 --> 00:50:05,176
uh, across the county
in no time.
911
00:50:05,219 --> 00:50:07,047
He better call in the F.B.I.
912
00:50:12,661 --> 00:50:15,882
[birds chirping]
913
00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:21,670
Man, I'm not even sure we should
be trying this case here.
914
00:50:21,714 --> 00:50:23,455
First, it's awful big case
for this office.
915
00:50:23,498 --> 00:50:25,065
I only have one investigator.
916
00:50:26,197 --> 00:50:28,677
I might could spare some guys
if it come to that.
917
00:50:29,722 --> 00:50:31,724
Well, second of all,
it'll be damned expensive.
918
00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:33,378
What choice we got?
919
00:50:33,421 --> 00:50:36,120
Feds ain't exactly rushing in
to take this thing.
920
00:50:36,163 --> 00:50:37,730
Hey maybe they know something.
921
00:50:37,773 --> 00:50:39,819
Well, maybe we should tell 'em
we can't afford it,
922
00:50:39,862 --> 00:50:41,777
that it'd bankrupt the town.
923
00:50:41,821 --> 00:50:44,302
It damn well might.
You prepared for that?
924
00:50:44,867 --> 00:50:46,826
Well, you're the one
to prosecute it.
925
00:50:46,869 --> 00:50:48,784
If you want it,
we can find some money.
926
00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:52,571
You got a good case?
927
00:50:53,746 --> 00:50:56,183
It's shaping up,
but it's not airtight.
928
00:50:56,879 --> 00:50:59,273
I'm not even sure we can make it
into capital murder, yet.
929
00:51:00,013 --> 00:51:02,015
We have to prove
two crimes here.
930
00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:03,756
Not just one.
931
00:51:04,974 --> 00:51:06,150
It's tricky.
932
00:51:07,499 --> 00:51:08,761
It's risky, too.
933
00:51:10,023 --> 00:51:11,677
[officer]
You can't know what ain't yours,
934
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:13,113
you hear me boy!
935
00:51:15,289 --> 00:51:16,899
I think you should do it.
936
00:51:18,988 --> 00:51:21,034
R.C., there's one more thing.
937
00:51:22,644 --> 00:51:24,168
What if we lose?
938
00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:28,172
[Billy] L.A. after Rodney King.
939
00:51:28,694 --> 00:51:30,478
Things could get out of hand.
940
00:51:39,487 --> 00:51:42,490
You know, we got us
a good town here,
941
00:51:42,534 --> 00:51:43,839
we got some good people.
942
00:51:44,927 --> 00:51:47,365
You can do it,
I know you can.
943
00:51:48,931 --> 00:51:52,239
We need to have this trial here
for the sake of this town.
944
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:57,592
It'd do somethin'
to start some healin'.
945
00:52:01,596 --> 00:52:03,946
[reporter] Last night
the popular Washington, D.C.
946
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:06,079
shock jock known
as The Grease Man
947
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,690
got some of his own medicine
from the host and audience
948
00:52:08,734 --> 00:52:11,432
of an African-American
radio call-in show.
949
00:52:11,476 --> 00:52:13,956
[woman] How much shock
do Black people have to take?
950
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,481
[reporter] This appearance
was part of an apology campaign
951
00:52:16,524 --> 00:52:19,440
by The Grease Man
whose real name is Doug Tract,
952
00:52:19,484 --> 00:52:21,964
fired last week
after playing part of a song
953
00:52:22,008 --> 00:52:25,272
by African-American
recording artist Lauren Hill,
954
00:52:25,316 --> 00:52:26,795
and then saying,
955
00:52:26,839 --> 00:52:28,928
"No wonder people drag them
behind trucks."
956
00:52:28,971 --> 00:52:30,886
[man] [indistinct]
957
00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:32,540
...getting out of control.
958
00:52:35,064 --> 00:52:40,026
Now I am embarrassed to say
that I come from Jasper.
959
00:52:40,766 --> 00:52:43,899
Suddenly we are a symbol
for racism.
960
00:52:43,943 --> 00:52:46,206
And you sayin'
that we don't have any?
961
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:48,469
[Walter] Well, not any more
than any place else.
962
00:52:48,513 --> 00:52:51,951
And we, and I mean all of us,
have to make people know that.
963
00:52:54,475 --> 00:52:56,782
One thing that Black folks
and White folks
964
00:52:56,825 --> 00:53:00,394
do have in common,
is a belief in God and prayer.
965
00:53:00,438 --> 00:53:02,614
-[man] Thank you, Jesus.
-And we need to have us
966
00:53:02,657 --> 00:53:05,747
a prayer vigil now,
just everybody, together.
967
00:53:05,791 --> 00:53:07,314
But we need more than that.
968
00:53:08,315 --> 00:53:09,925
We need to talk.
969
00:53:09,969 --> 00:53:11,623
We need to have a dialogue.
970
00:53:11,666 --> 00:53:15,409
Yes, so peoples can air
their grievances.
971
00:53:15,757 --> 00:53:18,760
Now y'all you have
to do that in your own churches.
972
00:53:18,804 --> 00:53:22,199
But it would mean more
if it came from the city.
973
00:53:22,242 --> 00:53:23,504
[Walter] Well, that's right.
974
00:53:23,548 --> 00:53:25,767
We should have
a Mayor's Task Force.
975
00:53:25,811 --> 00:53:27,595
And we need our mayor
to get involved.
976
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,641
[Catholic Priest]
We get together on this thing.
977
00:53:29,684 --> 00:53:30,685
[Reverend] Absolutely.
978
00:53:32,078 --> 00:53:33,384
[Catholic Priest]
Mr. Mayor, you have our support.
979
00:53:33,949 --> 00:53:36,996
Thanks a lot,
for doing this for me.
980
00:53:37,605 --> 00:53:39,128
-R.C.
-Yeah?
981
00:53:39,172 --> 00:53:40,956
[Walter]
You are the mayor of this town.
982
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,784
You got to do something.
983
00:53:43,481 --> 00:53:47,006
You can't just sit back
and hope this'll pass.
984
00:53:47,572 --> 00:53:49,791
We have got to do somethin'.
985
00:53:49,835 --> 00:53:52,229
That's why I'm asking
for this Task Force,
986
00:53:52,272 --> 00:53:53,752
let people get up and talk.
987
00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:57,103
I thought the plan
was to keep things calmed down?
988
00:53:58,104 --> 00:54:00,106
[Nancy] How will Blacks
and Whites handle it
989
00:54:00,149 --> 00:54:01,847
if there's a real disagreement?
990
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:05,024
Some things
aren't easily solvable.
991
00:54:05,546 --> 00:54:09,637
But when you believe in God
they always work themselves out.
992
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:15,556
We are going to put our faith
in God.
993
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,123
Now I'm a strong believer.
994
00:54:17,166 --> 00:54:19,081
And I believe most of y'all
are too.
995
00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:21,127
[choir]
♪ What a fellowship♪
996
00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:23,260
♪ What a joy divine ♪
997
00:54:23,303 --> 00:54:27,176
♪ Leaning on
the everlasting arms ♪
998
00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:31,485
♪ What a blessedness,
what a peace is mine ♪
999
00:54:31,529 --> 00:54:35,402
♪ Leaning on
the everlasting arms ♪
1000
00:54:35,968 --> 00:54:39,972
♪ Leaning, leaning ♪
1001
00:54:40,015 --> 00:54:44,063
♪ Safe and secure
from all alarm ♪
1002
00:54:44,106 --> 00:54:47,980
♪ Leaning, leaning ♪
1003
00:54:48,241 --> 00:54:49,242
Reverend.
1004
00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:52,506
[choir] ♪ Leaning on
the everlasting arms ♪
1005
00:54:54,508 --> 00:54:56,641
Everybody seems to be
n the spirit.
1006
00:54:57,381 --> 00:54:58,469
[R.C.] Sure do.
1007
00:54:59,121 --> 00:55:02,473
What's the deal on this
task force, R.C.?
1008
00:55:03,082 --> 00:55:08,653
Is it gonna keep things peaceful
or maybe it'll stir things up?
1009
00:55:08,696 --> 00:55:09,741
[man] Amen.
1010
00:55:10,045 --> 00:55:12,091
Just a damn drug deal gone bad,
is all.
1011
00:55:12,134 --> 00:55:13,571
Know what I'm sayin'?
1012
00:55:13,614 --> 00:55:15,921
I mean, ain't nothin' racial
about it at all.
1013
00:55:16,487 --> 00:55:18,619
-What about the trial?
-It just like this.
1014
00:55:18,663 --> 00:55:19,751
It's all for show.
1015
00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:22,362
[R.C.] So I hope
we keep things peaceful.
1016
00:55:22,406 --> 00:55:25,365
[choir]
♪ ...everlasting arms♪
1017
00:55:25,409 --> 00:55:27,628
[indistinct chatter]
1018
00:55:28,368 --> 00:55:31,066
Today the citizens of Jasper
joined together
1019
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:33,155
in a display of faith and unity
1020
00:55:33,417 --> 00:55:35,157
in the face of this
recent incident.
1021
00:55:35,201 --> 00:55:36,245
Baby.
1022
00:55:37,943 --> 00:55:41,599
All-in-all this has been
a great success.
1023
00:55:41,642 --> 00:55:44,341
[scoffs] You be careful now.
1024
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:47,692
Don't you be taking credit
for the Lord's work.
1025
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:49,781
Good for the town.
1026
00:55:51,478 --> 00:55:54,046
Good for the media.
And that Task Force--
1027
00:55:54,089 --> 00:55:55,526
-Uh-hmm.
---is gonna help, too.
1028
00:55:55,569 --> 00:55:57,658
[reporter] Jury selection
resumes tomorrow
1029
00:55:57,702 --> 00:56:00,052
in the trial
of John William King,
1030
00:56:00,095 --> 00:56:02,489
the alleged ringleader
of the three men
1031
00:56:02,533 --> 00:56:05,623
who have been accused
of this brutal crime.
1032
00:56:07,015 --> 00:56:10,845
Ain't nothin' gonna help
if things turn out badly.
1033
00:56:11,498 --> 00:56:13,935
You know, I was sitting in
that courtroom,
1034
00:56:15,502 --> 00:56:17,591
listening to Guy James
question them uh,
1035
00:56:17,635 --> 00:56:19,201
perspective Black jurors.
1036
00:56:19,854 --> 00:56:22,291
And most of them
disqualified themselves
1037
00:56:22,335 --> 00:56:24,250
'cause they don't believe
in the death penalty.
1038
00:56:24,293 --> 00:56:25,817
[Walter] That's not exactly
a surprise,
1039
00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:27,384
not the way it's been used
against us.
1040
00:56:29,734 --> 00:56:32,214
It won't help if we get us
an all-White jury.
1041
00:56:34,869 --> 00:56:36,480
It won't look good.
1042
00:56:38,438 --> 00:56:40,266
Won't look good at all.
1043
00:56:44,923 --> 00:56:47,578
Come on Claire.
Get closer.
1044
00:56:47,882 --> 00:56:50,058
I love you Ma.
It's for you Dad.
1045
00:56:50,668 --> 00:56:51,973
I'm gonna play some music here.
1046
00:56:52,017 --> 00:56:53,758
[piano music playing]
1047
00:56:53,801 --> 00:56:56,021
[James Jr.]
♪ I can dream of a new day ♪
1048
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,547
♪ I can dream of a world
to come ♪
1049
00:57:01,243 --> 00:57:04,029
♪ I can feel it coming my way
1050
00:57:04,856 --> 00:57:07,336
♪ Feel the world
in a different way ♪
1051
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:08,425
♪ Oh, yeah
1052
00:57:08,468 --> 00:57:11,123
♪ I can dream of a new time
1053
00:57:11,166 --> 00:57:12,472
I love you.
1054
00:57:12,516 --> 00:57:15,606
♪ A time of love
and a new rhyme ♪
1055
00:57:15,649 --> 00:57:18,957
♪ I can feel it
coming by my way ♪
1056
00:57:19,523 --> 00:57:22,526
♪ See the world in a new way
1057
00:57:23,309 --> 00:57:26,051
♪ I can dream, I can dream
1058
00:57:26,094 --> 00:57:28,096
This is for mom and dad's
anniversary.
1059
00:57:28,793 --> 00:57:30,185
I love you.
1060
00:57:30,664 --> 00:57:33,885
♪ I can dream, I can dream♪
1061
00:57:34,276 --> 00:57:35,713
All right.
1062
00:57:37,279 --> 00:57:40,326
[crickets chirping]
1063
00:57:42,676 --> 00:57:43,721
Hey, Billy.
1064
00:57:44,548 --> 00:57:45,810
You coming to bed?
1065
00:57:45,853 --> 00:57:48,813
[sighs] I ain't tired yet, buns.
1066
00:57:49,596 --> 00:57:53,295
Oh, Billy, you passed tired
a long ways back.
1067
00:57:53,687 --> 00:57:55,341
-Very stiff.
-Oh.
1068
00:57:55,384 --> 00:57:58,387
-There.
-Don't you ever stop doing that.
1069
00:58:02,435 --> 00:58:03,828
Hey, hey.
1070
00:58:05,699 --> 00:58:07,222
Oh, Billy, since when?
1071
00:58:07,266 --> 00:58:09,137
Just a little ol' toddy, buns.
1072
00:58:09,703 --> 00:58:11,226
Help me sleep.
1073
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:12,532
Billy.
1074
00:58:13,664 --> 00:58:16,710
Come on now.
Talk to me.
1075
00:58:20,148 --> 00:58:24,239
[sighs] I just keep thinking
what if I overlook
1076
00:58:24,283 --> 00:58:26,459
some key piece of evidence?
1077
00:58:27,852 --> 00:58:29,984
This is the biggest damn deal
1078
00:58:30,332 --> 00:58:32,334
I ever thought I'd investigate
in my whole life.
1079
00:58:32,378 --> 00:58:33,858
What if I screw it up?
1080
00:58:34,641 --> 00:58:38,210
Well, don't screw it up.
1081
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,081
Right.
1082
00:58:40,952 --> 00:58:44,042
[crickets chirping]
1083
00:58:48,612 --> 00:58:51,702
[telephone ringing]
1084
00:58:56,837 --> 00:58:57,969
Hello.
1085
00:58:59,623 --> 00:59:01,015
[man] If your town does anything
to them three boys,
1086
00:59:01,712 --> 00:59:02,974
we're coming to get you.
1087
00:59:03,017 --> 00:59:06,064
[phone line disconnects]
1088
00:59:06,107 --> 00:59:09,371
[ominous music playing]
1089
00:59:31,655 --> 00:59:34,701
Guy James, did he say anything
to you about the jury selection?
1090
00:59:34,745 --> 00:59:37,399
Not much, R.C.
He ain't worried about it.
1091
00:59:37,661 --> 00:59:38,966
Ain't you?
1092
00:59:39,837 --> 00:59:41,316
Hi, howdy Mr. Powell.
1093
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,014
[Mr. Powell]
Hey how y'all doin' today?
1094
00:59:43,057 --> 00:59:44,537
-Howdy.
-Just fine here.
1095
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,585
-There ain't no Black jurors.
-Not yet.
1096
00:59:48,628 --> 00:59:51,196
Yeah, but those that ain't
disqualified themselves,
1097
00:59:51,457 --> 00:59:53,807
Bill King's lawyer, he keeps
striking 'em off the list.
1098
00:59:55,330 --> 00:59:57,463
You saying a White jury
won't convict 'em?
1099
00:59:57,506 --> 00:59:59,552
No-no-no, I ain't saying that.
I'm just saying-
1100
00:59:59,944 --> 01:00:01,510
saying it don't look right.
1101
01:00:01,554 --> 01:00:04,862
You know,
don't ring right for Jasper.
1102
01:00:04,905 --> 01:00:07,299
Sending out the wrong
kind of signal, you know?
1103
01:00:08,866 --> 01:00:10,737
Wish I could be
one of them jurors.
1104
01:00:11,085 --> 01:00:13,218
I would not hesitate
doing the right thing.
1105
01:00:14,349 --> 01:00:16,047
An eye for an eye.
1106
01:00:16,090 --> 01:00:17,875
That's what it says
in the Bible.
1107
01:00:17,918 --> 01:00:20,486
-Death penalty don't bother me.
-[Mr. Nelson] Hey, Mayor.
1108
01:00:20,529 --> 01:00:22,096
How ya doin'?
Lookin' good, man.
1109
01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:23,750
-Thank you.
-Billy Rowles.
1110
01:00:23,794 --> 01:00:26,884
[birds chirping]
1111
01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:31,889
[indistinct chatter]
1112
01:00:39,897 --> 01:00:41,986
Well, was it personal?
Did you know him?
1113
01:00:42,029 --> 01:00:44,292
No, it was just 'cause
I was white.
1114
01:00:44,684 --> 01:00:48,253
This wasn't no,
I don't like no police, look.
1115
01:00:48,819 --> 01:00:53,171
This was just lumping me
with them White folks,
1116
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:55,477
just 'cause they done
the murder.
1117
01:00:56,043 --> 01:00:57,088
[telephone ringing]
1118
01:00:57,131 --> 01:00:58,785
That don't happen to me,
you know?
1119
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:03,398
Hell, I treat everyone equal,
Jamie.
1120
01:01:04,486 --> 01:01:06,184
Don't allow no harassment,
1121
01:01:06,227 --> 01:01:07,794
no nasty language
from my people.
1122
01:01:07,838 --> 01:01:09,274
This is Billy.
1123
01:01:11,929 --> 01:01:14,932
[sighs] You are shittin' me.
1124
01:01:14,975 --> 01:01:16,237
The Klan?
1125
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,198
They announced
they're going to hold a rally
1126
01:01:20,241 --> 01:01:22,679
-at your courthouse.
-While the trial is goin' on?
1127
01:01:25,203 --> 01:01:27,727
[Walter] And you just gonna
let 'em come here?
1128
01:01:27,771 --> 01:01:30,338
I mean, here where
they just dragged
1129
01:01:30,382 --> 01:01:32,514
a Black man to his death?
1130
01:01:33,515 --> 01:01:35,953
They followed
the permit process.
1131
01:01:36,823 --> 01:01:38,172
We can't say no to 'em.
1132
01:01:38,564 --> 01:01:40,087
Hell of a lawsuit.
1133
01:01:40,131 --> 01:01:42,002
Well, you redirected
the Panthers, Billy.
1134
01:01:43,177 --> 01:01:44,744
Couldn't stop 'em
from coming here.
1135
01:01:44,788 --> 01:01:46,398
[R.C.] Well, dammit
you better find a way
1136
01:01:46,441 --> 01:01:47,486
to redirect them, too.
1137
01:01:49,357 --> 01:01:51,708
This is the Klan
we're talking about here.
1138
01:01:54,362 --> 01:01:57,670
[phone ringing]
1139
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:03,415
I'm sorry y'all, uh, stress.
1140
01:02:04,808 --> 01:02:06,897
Got this in the mail.
1141
01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:14,034
[Billy] Join the club.
1142
01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:18,778
Looks like the same handwriting.
1143
01:02:24,566 --> 01:02:25,872
Man's been busy.
1144
01:02:26,177 --> 01:02:27,569
[Clark] I'll take those.
1145
01:02:30,790 --> 01:02:31,922
You told your wives?
1146
01:02:35,229 --> 01:02:36,317
Me neither.
1147
01:02:40,757 --> 01:02:42,367
Yes, I know
y'all are uncomfortable
1148
01:02:42,410 --> 01:02:44,064
'cause he's the one
that prosecuted Son.
1149
01:02:44,108 --> 01:02:46,719
-Never came in my mind, R.C.
-Now I can tell ya.
1150
01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:48,895
Guy James Grey
wants to win this trial.
1151
01:02:49,156 --> 01:02:50,636
-I know this.
-Can he?
1152
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:51,898
'Course he can.
1153
01:02:51,942 --> 01:02:54,118
[James] Can them boys
get convicted here?
1154
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,209
[officer] Stay down.
[grunting]
1155
01:02:59,601 --> 01:03:00,820
Look.
1156
01:03:02,909 --> 01:03:05,216
There ain't gonna be no more
turning the other cheek.
1157
01:03:05,259 --> 01:03:06,304
We gonna get this right.
1158
01:03:06,347 --> 01:03:08,088
We gonna do it
the right way, now.
1159
01:03:08,132 --> 01:03:10,438
Now do you know that
most of White folks in Jasper
1160
01:03:10,482 --> 01:03:12,440
wanna see this King kid
punished, too?
1161
01:03:12,963 --> 01:03:14,355
And them other two, also.
1162
01:03:14,399 --> 01:03:16,270
[James] Justice is all we want.
1163
01:03:16,314 --> 01:03:17,837
-[knocks on door]
-You are gonna get it.
1164
01:03:17,881 --> 01:03:18,925
I'm busy!
1165
01:03:18,969 --> 01:03:20,318
-I swear to you.
-[door opens]
1166
01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:23,625
-I said I'm busy.
-I wouldn't interrupt
1167
01:03:23,669 --> 01:03:25,671
if it wasn't
mighty important, Mayor.
1168
01:03:27,542 --> 01:03:29,718
Okay, I'll be right back.
1169
01:03:29,762 --> 01:03:31,503
-R.C., what...
-[door closes]
1170
01:03:33,984 --> 01:03:35,942
-Just heard from the F.B.I.
-Mm-hm.
1171
01:03:35,986 --> 01:03:37,857
The Panthers is issued
a statement.
1172
01:03:38,902 --> 01:03:42,035
They plan on coming back here
the same day as the Klan.
1173
01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:45,343
[sighs]
1174
01:03:48,085 --> 01:03:50,478
I'm beginning to understand
how Job must've felt.
1175
01:03:50,522 --> 01:03:51,523
Amen.
1176
01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:55,092
[dramatic music playing]
1177
01:03:55,135 --> 01:03:58,312
[crickets chirping]
1178
01:04:01,098 --> 01:04:03,840
[indistinct chatter]
1179
01:04:10,803 --> 01:04:12,674
[Reverend] If I may have a word.
1180
01:04:13,066 --> 01:04:14,676
Now a lot of Black people
feel like
1181
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,287
they aren't being treated
with respect.
1182
01:04:16,330 --> 01:04:18,637
-That's right, my brother.
-They go to the store
1183
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,248
and the owners look at them like
they're gonna steal something.
1184
01:04:21,509 --> 01:04:23,468
[Mr. Nelson]
I put my money in the bank,
1185
01:04:23,947 --> 01:04:25,774
but they ain't no Black people
working there.
1186
01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:28,995
Black man can't get a job
selling cars.
1187
01:04:29,778 --> 01:04:31,563
You gonna get us a job,
Mr. Diggles?
1188
01:04:31,606 --> 01:04:33,130
Are you gonna get us a job?
1189
01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:35,610
-Mr. Nelson um, you know--
-[Mr. Nelson] Are you?
1190
01:04:35,654 --> 01:04:40,398
We can only try to create jobs,
try to bring jobs here.
1191
01:04:40,441 --> 01:04:41,442
Now you know that.
1192
01:04:43,053 --> 01:04:44,924
[Rev. Lyons] Anybody notice
there still ain't no Black folks
1193
01:04:44,968 --> 01:04:47,884
-in the Jasper Country Club?
-[man] That's right.
1194
01:04:48,536 --> 01:04:50,190
Are there any Whites
in your church?
1195
01:04:51,322 --> 01:04:53,367
[Rev. Lyons] Difference is
Ms. Nickerson,
1196
01:04:53,715 --> 01:04:56,196
you can come to my church
any time you want.
1197
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,632
In fact...
1198
01:04:58,764 --> 01:05:00,766
I'll get you a front row seat.
1199
01:05:01,723 --> 01:05:03,856
[man]
That's what I'm talking about.
1200
01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:08,382
You're a trip, Reverend.
1201
01:05:10,558 --> 01:05:17,391
[dramatic music playing]
1202
01:05:34,713 --> 01:05:35,932
Well, I gotta go.
1203
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,237
Bye.
1204
01:05:38,499 --> 01:05:39,500
Bye.
1205
01:05:40,501 --> 01:05:41,981
You nervous, honey?
1206
01:05:44,114 --> 01:05:46,507
Yeah, I guess so. Guess I am.
1207
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,120
You're gonna do just fine.
1208
01:05:52,774 --> 01:05:54,820
You know
I could still be there with ya.
1209
01:05:56,126 --> 01:05:56,996
Hey.
1210
01:05:57,954 --> 01:05:59,303
Say a little prayer.
1211
01:06:08,790 --> 01:06:09,966
[door opens]
1212
01:06:11,489 --> 01:06:12,794
[door closes]
1213
01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:25,416
[camera man] They're bringing
King around the back. Come on.
1214
01:06:25,459 --> 01:06:27,635
-[man] Here he comes.
-[man] Okay. Hurry up.
1215
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:29,681
-[man] Come on, let's go.
-[man] Come on now.
1216
01:06:29,724 --> 01:06:31,248
[man] Bring that camera
right here now.
1217
01:06:31,291 --> 01:06:33,424
[man] Excuse me,
excuse me [indistinct]
1218
01:06:33,467 --> 01:06:34,947
[man]
He's inside there, get him out.
1219
01:06:34,991 --> 01:06:36,470
-[Walter] You want reality?
-It was them jurors
1220
01:06:36,514 --> 01:06:38,037
-selected him for it.
-The only reason
1221
01:06:38,081 --> 01:06:40,866
he's on that jury is King's
lawyer ran out of strikes.
1222
01:06:40,909 --> 01:06:43,086
It was a smart--
it was a smart thing to do.
1223
01:06:43,129 --> 01:06:44,957
-A smart thing to do?
-No press, please.
1224
01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:46,698
I said no press, and I mean it.
1225
01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:49,266
Hope it ain't for show.
1226
01:06:49,309 --> 01:06:50,528
Aren't you the guy who said
1227
01:06:50,571 --> 01:06:52,008
this town's about
loving each other?
1228
01:06:52,051 --> 01:06:54,184
Oh, yeah. Since I want
your mind on business,
1229
01:06:54,227 --> 01:06:56,577
I'm not gonna remind you about
some of the boneheaded things
1230
01:06:56,621 --> 01:06:58,014
-you said.
-[Billy] Thanks.
1231
01:07:01,626 --> 01:07:04,324
All right, get back. Get back.
1232
01:07:04,368 --> 01:07:07,153
All right y'all, move him
on out. All right.
1233
01:07:07,197 --> 01:07:09,677
Appreciate all your cooperation.
1234
01:07:09,721 --> 01:07:12,463
That's enough, now.
That's enough, I said.
1235
01:07:12,506 --> 01:07:14,987
Get back there. That's enough.
That's enough of that.
1236
01:07:15,248 --> 01:07:18,469
That's all.
That's enough. Thank y'all.
1237
01:07:18,512 --> 01:07:24,214
[indistinct chatter]
1238
01:07:24,257 --> 01:07:26,129
[reporter]
What was your motive, King?
1239
01:07:26,172 --> 01:07:27,347
Why did you do it?
1240
01:07:27,391 --> 01:07:30,394
[indistinct chatter]
1241
01:07:31,351 --> 01:07:33,179
[Guy James]
You had the opportunity
1242
01:07:33,223 --> 01:07:35,138
to observe the body
of James Byrd.
1243
01:07:36,226 --> 01:07:37,270
[Billy] I did.
1244
01:07:39,011 --> 01:07:40,969
What professional conclusions
did you reach
1245
01:07:41,013 --> 01:07:42,710
as to the nature
of his injuries?
1246
01:07:43,581 --> 01:07:45,800
There was a massive amount
of trauma.
1247
01:07:46,149 --> 01:07:47,889
The body had separated.
1248
01:07:49,152 --> 01:07:52,285
I believe it was one--
the one shoulder,
1249
01:07:52,329 --> 01:07:54,113
I believe it was
the left shoulder,
1250
01:07:55,201 --> 01:07:58,509
and the head was separated,
and was uh--
1251
01:08:00,598 --> 01:08:02,339
It's just my opinion...
1252
01:08:03,166 --> 01:08:05,994
through my experience
in my work that uh...
1253
01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:09,737
there was a culvert,
1254
01:08:10,521 --> 01:08:14,525
a cement culvert that the body
appeared to me
1255
01:08:14,568 --> 01:08:17,136
to have hit that culvert
1256
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:22,446
and separated from the head
and shoulder.
1257
01:08:22,707 --> 01:08:24,143
[Guy James]
No more questions Your Honor.
1258
01:08:24,187 --> 01:08:25,753
I reserve the right
to recall the witness.
1259
01:08:26,145 --> 01:08:27,103
Granted.
1260
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,108
My apologies, Your Honor.
1261
01:08:33,457 --> 01:08:34,414
Billy.
1262
01:08:35,981 --> 01:08:38,026
Did you actually take any
of this uh, evidence yourself?
1263
01:08:39,419 --> 01:08:41,247
No, sir,
I didn't touch any of it.
1264
01:08:41,813 --> 01:08:44,555
I marked it, you know.
We didn't mess with it.
1265
01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:50,561
Mm-hm. Well, were you present
when this uh, evidence
1266
01:08:50,604 --> 01:08:52,432
was taken into
your officer's possession?
1267
01:08:53,346 --> 01:08:55,261
No, I had gone back
to the office.
1268
01:08:57,220 --> 01:08:58,177
I see.
1269
01:09:00,048 --> 01:09:02,355
So what you're telling me
is that you really have
1270
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,706
no earthly idea
how this evidence was recovered,
1271
01:09:05,750 --> 01:09:06,664
now do you?
1272
01:09:09,493 --> 01:09:11,886
No, sir, I don't. I do not.
1273
01:09:15,151 --> 01:09:17,022
[Cribbs]
Well, let me ask you this.
1274
01:09:17,065 --> 01:09:20,852
Were uh, were you present
when the F.B.I. came out
1275
01:09:20,895 --> 01:09:22,462
and re-examined the scene?
1276
01:09:25,204 --> 01:09:27,380
At that particular time,
1277
01:09:27,728 --> 01:09:29,991
we was having
so many problems here,
1278
01:09:30,644 --> 01:09:33,169
I had people way smarter than me
handle that
1279
01:09:33,212 --> 01:09:37,173
and I was tending
to other things...
1280
01:09:37,477 --> 01:09:40,045
that I had to tend to.
1281
01:09:42,961 --> 01:09:44,702
No further questions,
Your Honor.
1282
01:10:00,021 --> 01:10:01,849
[Guy James] Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
1283
01:10:03,373 --> 01:10:06,767
I'm gonna show you some pictures
of the body.
1284
01:10:07,899 --> 01:10:10,075
And they are pretty rough
to handle.
1285
01:10:11,511 --> 01:10:14,427
But, they're important evidence.
1286
01:10:15,254 --> 01:10:17,213
I'd ask you not only
to look at them,
1287
01:10:17,952 --> 01:10:19,432
but to study them some.
1288
01:10:21,956 --> 01:10:24,045
Billy, I'll ask you
if you can identify them.
1289
01:10:26,352 --> 01:10:28,267
[whispering]
1290
01:10:33,707 --> 01:10:36,232
[Billy]
This is detail from the uh...
1291
01:10:38,451 --> 01:10:41,759
photograph
of James Byrd's torso,
1292
01:10:43,282 --> 01:10:45,023
laying on Huff Creek Road.
1293
01:10:46,329 --> 01:10:47,460
Why?
1294
01:10:47,504 --> 01:10:49,027
[Guy James]
And that was before...
1295
01:10:49,506 --> 01:10:53,161
it was moved, changed,
or tampered with...
1296
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:55,338
in any manner?
1297
01:10:56,252 --> 01:10:57,818
This is how we found it.
1298
01:11:02,910 --> 01:11:03,998
And this one?
1299
01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:14,879
[Billy] This is a photograph
of the full torso,
1300
01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:17,447
and you can see
on the right side
1301
01:11:17,490 --> 01:11:21,364
of the photograph uh,
the missing head and shoulder.
1302
01:11:24,758 --> 01:11:26,325
[Guy James] Why...
1303
01:11:27,457 --> 01:11:30,547
are his pants and underwear...
1304
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,292
Sheriff, how would you describe
that there?
1305
01:11:39,251 --> 01:11:42,341
The way we see it uh,
1306
01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:44,952
they's pulled down like that--
1307
01:11:48,173 --> 01:11:50,523
He was dragged and uh,
1308
01:11:51,045 --> 01:11:53,047
the perpetrators...
1309
01:11:58,139 --> 01:12:05,103
[dramatic music playing]
1310
01:12:05,886 --> 01:12:06,887
[clicks]
1311
01:12:08,846 --> 01:12:11,892
[Guy James] What about
those marks around his ankles?
1312
01:12:14,721 --> 01:12:16,549
My opinion, again,
1313
01:12:18,464 --> 01:12:19,639
that's from the chain.
1314
01:12:19,683 --> 01:12:20,945
[Cribbs]
Now objection, Your Honor.
1315
01:12:20,988 --> 01:12:22,381
-[Claire] Thurman.
-Move to strike,
1316
01:12:22,425 --> 01:12:24,383
and no chain has been introduced
as evidence.
1317
01:12:24,427 --> 01:12:26,385
[Guy James] Oh, we're gonna get
to that, Your Honor.
1318
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,909
[door closes]
1319
01:12:32,652 --> 01:12:33,958
We gonna get to that.
1320
01:12:43,141 --> 01:12:46,405
[indistinct chatter]
1321
01:12:46,449 --> 01:12:47,754
[reporter] Excuse me, Mr. King.
1322
01:12:47,798 --> 01:12:49,277
-[reporter] Mr. King.
-[reporter] Mr. King.
1323
01:12:49,756 --> 01:12:51,671
Mr. King, I have to ask you,
how-how did your--
1324
01:12:51,715 --> 01:12:53,281
How did your son become
a racist, Mr. King?
1325
01:12:53,499 --> 01:12:57,373
[Mr. King] I don't rightly know.
He just wasn't raised that way.
1326
01:12:57,416 --> 01:12:59,157
[reporter] His lawyer claims
that it started in prison
1327
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:00,680
when he was attacked
by Black men.
1328
01:13:00,941 --> 01:13:04,597
Well, he was different
when he came home.
1329
01:13:04,858 --> 01:13:06,251
And he didn't show
any signs of it earlier?
1330
01:13:06,294 --> 01:13:08,296
[Mr. King] Lady.
I didn't raise him like that.
1331
01:13:09,297 --> 01:13:12,039
Please, I--
I don't have any more to say.
1332
01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:13,519
[Sgt. Carter] Calm down.
Mr. King. Calm down.
1333
01:13:13,563 --> 01:13:14,912
-Back off, I said now.
-[reporter] Mr. King--
1334
01:13:14,955 --> 01:13:16,392
[Sgt. Carter]
I said, that's enough now!
1335
01:13:18,829 --> 01:13:24,487
[dramatic music playing]
1336
01:13:30,971 --> 01:13:31,972
[screaming]
1337
01:13:46,726 --> 01:13:51,165
[no audible dialogue]
1338
01:13:51,209 --> 01:13:58,129
[dramatic music playing]
1339
01:14:03,351 --> 01:14:05,223
[telephone ringing]
1340
01:14:08,052 --> 01:14:09,967
-This is Billy.
-[man] Your day's comin',
1341
01:14:10,010 --> 01:14:11,751
you race-traitor
son-of-a-bitch.
1342
01:14:11,795 --> 01:14:13,753
You better decide
which side you're on,
1343
01:14:13,797 --> 01:14:15,538
'cause otherwise
when you turn your back is--
1344
01:14:19,585 --> 01:14:26,549
[indistinct chatter]
1345
01:14:28,942 --> 01:14:30,814
We're doing well, now.
Anybody got anything else
1346
01:14:30,857 --> 01:14:32,772
to say now? We got it goin'.
1347
01:14:32,816 --> 01:14:35,949
Your Honor uh,
it seems to me that-
1348
01:14:35,993 --> 01:14:37,429
that we are--
1349
01:14:38,038 --> 01:14:40,563
It's like we're from different
cultures,
1350
01:14:41,477 --> 01:14:45,219
but we don't appreciate
each other's cultures equally.
1351
01:14:45,655 --> 01:14:47,308
[Rev. Lyons]
What we need to be doing
1352
01:14:47,352 --> 01:14:49,615
is some kind of congregation,
fellowshipping
1353
01:14:49,659 --> 01:14:52,139
between the churches
is what we need to be doing.
1354
01:14:52,183 --> 01:14:54,098
Good idea Reverend, thank you.
1355
01:14:54,141 --> 01:14:55,491
[Nancy]
I been searching my heart.
1356
01:14:56,622 --> 01:14:58,581
Asking, having I done
all I should have.
1357
01:15:00,321 --> 01:15:03,107
Well, sometimes
I didn't stand up...
1358
01:15:03,977 --> 01:15:05,762
for what I know was right.
1359
01:15:07,024 --> 01:15:08,547
Yeah, well, look here.
1360
01:15:09,287 --> 01:15:11,115
Seems like we always the one
who get arrested.
1361
01:15:12,246 --> 01:15:14,074
Always the one
be getting ticketed.
1362
01:15:14,118 --> 01:15:15,598
[R.C.]
Well, now, if you're actually
1363
01:15:15,641 --> 01:15:17,600
breaking the law, now.
Come on.
1364
01:15:17,643 --> 01:15:19,471
[Thelma] Our young boys
are always the ones
1365
01:15:19,515 --> 01:15:21,560
who get arrested for drugs.
Not the White boys.
1366
01:15:21,604 --> 01:15:23,606
White boys get busted,
they get sent home.
1367
01:15:23,649 --> 01:15:25,172
Our boys end up in jail.
1368
01:15:25,216 --> 01:15:26,565
Sometimes
it's a question of bail.
1369
01:15:26,609 --> 01:15:28,088
[man] And when we be stopped
by the police,
1370
01:15:28,132 --> 01:15:29,699
they don't treat us
with no respect.
1371
01:15:29,742 --> 01:15:31,483
I mean if we say one thing
and they-
1372
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:33,006
they drag us off to jail.
1373
01:15:34,094 --> 01:15:36,009
[Thelma] We should invite
the police to come down here.
1374
01:15:36,053 --> 01:15:37,750
-[man] Yeah.
-Here what people have to say.
1375
01:15:37,794 --> 01:15:39,622
Well, you know
it might be a better idea
1376
01:15:39,665 --> 01:15:41,972
if we put together a small group
and let's go down
1377
01:15:42,015 --> 01:15:44,452
-as a small group of people.
-[R.C.] No wait-wait, whoa-whoa-
1378
01:15:44,496 --> 01:15:45,671
whoa, whoa, hold the lot here.
1379
01:15:47,151 --> 01:15:48,369
Anybody's gonna report anything
for the Task Force now,
1380
01:15:49,806 --> 01:15:52,286
it's the mayor's job to do that.
You understand that?
1381
01:15:52,678 --> 01:15:53,766
[door opens]
1382
01:15:55,376 --> 01:15:58,075
[Billy] Hey, R.C. How's it goin'
in your part of the woods?
1383
01:15:58,684 --> 01:15:59,685
There you got it.
1384
01:16:00,686 --> 01:16:01,731
What's that?
1385
01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:03,950
The Task Force results.
1386
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:07,084
A whole lot of complaints.
1387
01:16:07,127 --> 01:16:09,042
-Yeah, pretty thick.
-[R.C.] Yup.
1388
01:16:10,653 --> 01:16:12,568
[Billy] Whoa. [chuckles]
1389
01:16:13,786 --> 01:16:16,049
We don't arrest anybody
ain't done nothin' wrong.
1390
01:16:16,484 --> 01:16:18,661
Yeah? Well, there's more
Black people get arrested
1391
01:16:18,704 --> 01:16:20,401
than Whites. That's a problem.
1392
01:16:26,103 --> 01:16:29,280
Maybe more uh, Black folks
do commit crimes.
1393
01:16:34,677 --> 01:16:36,504
They say the officers,
1394
01:16:36,548 --> 01:16:38,289
they don't treat
the Black folks the same.
1395
01:16:38,332 --> 01:16:39,507
This just ain't right.
1396
01:16:40,465 --> 01:16:41,988
You ever know anybody
who was arrested,
1397
01:16:42,032 --> 01:16:43,468
thought they was treated right?
1398
01:16:44,774 --> 01:16:46,689
I know something terrible's
happened here
1399
01:16:46,732 --> 01:16:48,473
and it stirred things up
in Jasper,
1400
01:16:48,516 --> 01:16:50,475
but it was them three bastards
that did it.
1401
01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:52,956
Basically Blacks and Whites
get along here.
1402
01:16:52,999 --> 01:16:54,784
I mean basically
things is alright here, right?
1403
01:16:55,045 --> 01:16:56,046
Wrong!
1404
01:17:00,354 --> 01:17:01,573
We just been pretending.
1405
01:17:01,878 --> 01:17:04,097
And we pretended
all these years.
1406
01:17:04,489 --> 01:17:05,925
All make believe.
1407
01:17:08,493 --> 01:17:11,148
Hey, there ain't nothin' wrong
with Jasper
1408
01:17:11,191 --> 01:17:14,455
that a Dupont coming here
with 2,000 jobs won't cure.
1409
01:17:14,499 --> 01:17:15,631
[R.C.] Billy. Listen to me.
1410
01:17:16,022 --> 01:17:17,763
Take care of these complaints,
hear?
1411
01:17:18,285 --> 01:17:19,286
Now.
1412
01:17:20,766 --> 01:17:22,246
And by the way,
if you're finished
1413
01:17:22,289 --> 01:17:23,334
with that crime scene...
1414
01:17:23,769 --> 01:17:26,206
then take all them marks
off the road.
1415
01:17:27,817 --> 01:17:29,035
It's upsetting people.
1416
01:17:32,299 --> 01:17:33,431
[door closes]
1417
01:17:34,301 --> 01:17:35,694
[Guy James]
In this letter...
1418
01:17:37,217 --> 01:17:40,960
to you from prison,
he talks about getting tattoos?
1419
01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:45,399
So far, I've gotten
Woody Woodpecker
1420
01:17:45,443 --> 01:17:47,663
wearing a Klansman uniform...
1421
01:17:48,446 --> 01:17:50,143
flipping off niggers.
1422
01:17:52,624 --> 01:17:53,930
Did you see that tattoo?
1423
01:17:54,887 --> 01:17:55,932
Yes, sir.
1424
01:17:57,237 --> 01:17:59,109
[Guy James] Did you see
one of someone hanging?
1425
01:18:00,545 --> 01:18:01,589
[Michelle] Yes, sir.
1426
01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:04,375
How did he describe that?
1427
01:18:05,115 --> 01:18:09,249
Uh, see my little nigger man
hangin' from a tree?
1428
01:18:15,952 --> 01:18:17,562
In this next letter...
1429
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,826
he talks about joining
1430
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:23,307
the Confederate
Knights of America,
1431
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:25,352
a White supremacist group.
1432
01:18:27,877 --> 01:18:29,705
Would you read that right there,
please?
1433
01:18:34,884 --> 01:18:37,843
What do you think
about niggers and spics?
1434
01:18:38,539 --> 01:18:41,542
Would you date one, fuck one,
and become a race traitor
1435
01:18:41,586 --> 01:18:43,936
like a lot of those whores
in Jasper?
1436
01:18:44,807 --> 01:18:47,723
Any race traitor bitch
should be hung
1437
01:18:47,766 --> 01:18:49,725
alongside the nigger she fucked.
1438
01:18:50,073 --> 01:18:51,509
White is right.
1439
01:19:05,653 --> 01:19:07,960
When you were in prison
with Bill,
1440
01:19:08,004 --> 01:19:10,746
what did he say about taking
recruits in an initiation?
1441
01:19:10,789 --> 01:19:12,704
You gotta do a blood tie
to get in.
1442
01:19:13,966 --> 01:19:16,273
[Guy James] And what does
it mean to take a Black out
1443
01:19:16,316 --> 01:19:17,448
for initiation?
1444
01:19:17,970 --> 01:19:18,971
Kill 'im.
1445
01:19:20,146 --> 01:19:21,495
Prove your loyalty
to your organization.
1446
01:19:21,931 --> 01:19:24,237
[Guy James] If a Black
were kidnapped, killed
1447
01:19:24,281 --> 01:19:26,370
and that stirred up a race war,
1448
01:19:27,197 --> 01:19:28,938
would that be a desirable thing?
1449
01:19:28,981 --> 01:19:29,982
I guess.
1450
01:19:31,027 --> 01:19:32,289
If that's what you want.
1451
01:19:40,514 --> 01:19:43,822
We uh, can't help you enforce
that buffer zone.
1452
01:19:43,866 --> 01:19:46,172
With all due respect,
why the hell not?
1453
01:19:46,216 --> 01:19:48,131
It come from a district judge.
1454
01:19:48,174 --> 01:19:50,611
We don't think the no-guns
part's enforceable.
1455
01:19:51,395 --> 01:19:53,745
People have a right
to bear arms.
1456
01:19:55,660 --> 01:19:57,531
What's the attorney
general's opinion?
1457
01:19:57,923 --> 01:20:02,014
I'm not here to give opinions.
I'm just here to observe.
1458
01:20:02,406 --> 01:20:03,407
[R.C.] Observe what?
1459
01:20:04,103 --> 01:20:05,975
A whole lot of violence?
Race war?
1460
01:20:06,714 --> 01:20:08,412
Only way we'll get involved
1461
01:20:08,455 --> 01:20:09,979
is if the Panthers
resist arrest.
1462
01:20:10,022 --> 01:20:11,719
[Billy]
So it's our asses on the line
1463
01:20:11,763 --> 01:20:13,156
if we try to take their guns
1464
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:14,766
and the whole damn deal
blows up?
1465
01:20:15,854 --> 01:20:16,986
[R.C.] Thank you gentlemen.
1466
01:20:17,029 --> 01:20:19,118
Thank you for a whole lot
of nothin'
1467
01:20:19,902 --> 01:20:21,120
Well, good luck, then.
1468
01:20:24,297 --> 01:20:25,559
[door opens]
1469
01:20:25,603 --> 01:20:27,474
There's one more thing
you need to know about.
1470
01:20:27,518 --> 01:20:28,519
[door closes]
1471
01:20:29,868 --> 01:20:31,217
Panthers are kissing
their loved ones goodbye.
1472
01:20:31,261 --> 01:20:33,829
Saying it's gonna be
a real bad scene down here.
1473
01:20:38,398 --> 01:20:40,226
[singer] ♪ Hey, Lord ♪
1474
01:20:40,270 --> 01:20:43,012
♪ What about me, Lord? ♪
1475
01:20:43,795 --> 01:20:46,406
♪ I feel like crying ♪
1476
01:20:47,059 --> 01:20:49,932
♪ Crying to you♪
1477
01:20:52,021 --> 01:20:53,761
♪ It's me, Lord ♪
1478
01:20:53,805 --> 01:20:56,764
♪ I'm on bended knee, Lord ♪
1479
01:20:57,069 --> 01:21:03,510
♪ I'm here to ask
something of you ♪
1480
01:21:05,817 --> 01:21:08,080
♪ Take me away ♪
1481
01:21:08,124 --> 01:21:12,171
♪ From this dust heap
of slavery ♪
1482
01:21:12,215 --> 01:21:17,655
♪ To love that knows
not its goal♪
1483
01:21:19,526 --> 01:21:23,966
♪ Take me away from this world
1484
01:21:24,009 --> 01:21:27,447
♪ So covered in pain ♪
1485
01:21:28,144 --> 01:21:31,887
♪ It's just not my home ♪
1486
01:21:42,419 --> 01:21:43,550
Now Sheriff,
1487
01:21:44,943 --> 01:21:47,119
we not gonna dance
that same dance again, are we?
1488
01:21:47,163 --> 01:21:48,729
Well, pretty much. Pretty much.
1489
01:21:49,078 --> 01:21:51,036
You can march with your guns
if you want to,
1490
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,169
but you got to stay away
from the courthouse.
1491
01:21:55,780 --> 01:21:57,738
You can't keep us
from those White devils.
1492
01:21:58,522 --> 01:22:00,611
We have the right
to free assembly.
1493
01:22:00,654 --> 01:22:02,221
Well, you can assemble
if you want to,
1494
01:22:02,265 --> 01:22:04,702
but you can't have your guns
if you do.
1495
01:22:04,745 --> 01:22:07,096
Oh, there's a--
something I didn't tell ya.
1496
01:22:07,923 --> 01:22:09,272
There's a buffer zone.
1497
01:22:09,446 --> 01:22:11,883
Judge set up a buffer zone,
no guns in that zone.
1498
01:22:13,711 --> 01:22:16,192
-You just forgot to tell me huh?
-Yeah, it slipped my mind.
1499
01:22:17,758 --> 01:22:20,936
You think you one slick cracker,
don't you? That's illegal.
1500
01:22:21,762 --> 01:22:25,810
Well, don't test me on it,
Khalid.
1501
01:22:26,593 --> 01:22:27,812
Make your choice.
1502
01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:30,075
The courthouse or guns.
1503
01:22:33,339 --> 01:22:34,340
That's it.
1504
01:22:39,737 --> 01:22:42,218
And listen,
whichever one you choose,
1505
01:22:42,653 --> 01:22:44,481
you won't get lonely.
I'll be right there
1506
01:22:44,524 --> 01:22:46,309
-near you somewhere.
-[Khalid] We're outta here.
1507
01:22:51,227 --> 01:22:53,142
Why don't you issue an order
that we can use
1508
01:22:53,185 --> 01:22:54,795
to get the D.P.S. to help us out
1509
01:22:54,839 --> 01:22:56,493
if it comes down
to arresting people?
1510
01:22:56,972 --> 01:22:59,235
[woman] The governor
is not available right now.
1511
01:23:00,062 --> 01:23:02,716
Hey look.
Besides my own police,
1512
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,981
all I got here
is some game warden volunteers
1513
01:23:06,024 --> 01:23:08,157
and some mounted patrol
from Smith County.
1514
01:23:09,767 --> 01:23:11,508
-Hello?
-[woman] I-I'm sorry sir.
1515
01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:14,554
Is uh-can I speak to somebody
higher up?
1516
01:23:14,598 --> 01:23:17,079
[woman] Now I'm the most senior
assistant here right now,
1517
01:23:17,122 --> 01:23:19,255
but I'd be happy to pass
your message on to my superior.
1518
01:23:19,690 --> 01:23:20,734
Thank you.
1519
01:23:26,566 --> 01:23:28,699
-We are on our own.
-[Mike Lout] You got some words
1520
01:23:28,742 --> 01:23:30,309
for the people of Jasper
this morning?
1521
01:23:31,049 --> 01:23:32,224
Um, yes, um...
1522
01:23:33,834 --> 01:23:35,140
Well, I-I-I would just like
to say to everybody
1523
01:23:35,184 --> 01:23:36,707
out there in Jasper that uh,
1524
01:23:38,317 --> 01:23:40,015
you know that the-the Klan
does not speak for me...
1525
01:23:41,146 --> 01:23:42,800
or for anybody I know,
1526
01:23:42,843 --> 01:23:45,150
and you know, I know
most of you all out there...
1527
01:23:45,846 --> 01:23:48,110
and-and it-and it sure
doesn't speak for Jasper.
1528
01:23:48,153 --> 01:23:50,590
-Right Billy, I mean--
-[Billy] Folks, they're just...
1529
01:23:50,634 --> 01:23:52,723
[Guy James] Looks like
our guests have arrived.
1530
01:23:53,115 --> 01:23:54,899
[Billy] These-these-these nuts
1531
01:23:54,942 --> 01:23:58,337
uh, they don't-they don't give
a damn about us folks.
1532
01:23:59,077 --> 01:24:00,905
They're just like
so many other outsiders
1533
01:24:00,948 --> 01:24:03,038
who've come here
to use this town
1534
01:24:03,081 --> 01:24:04,300
and our situation.
1535
01:24:04,343 --> 01:24:06,171
I ain't never seen no K.K.K.
up close before.
1536
01:24:06,867 --> 01:24:07,868
Me either.
1537
01:24:08,304 --> 01:24:10,045
Wonder if we'll recognize
anyone.
1538
01:24:10,088 --> 01:24:12,090
[Billy] These squirrels
may be funny looking, Nancy,
1539
01:24:12,134 --> 01:24:14,484
but make no mistake,
their extremist views
1540
01:24:14,527 --> 01:24:16,486
are the seeds
that's produced the tragedy
1541
01:24:16,529 --> 01:24:18,314
that this town
is suffering right now.
1542
01:24:18,357 --> 01:24:20,751
So I say, folks pay no respects
to these guys.
1543
01:24:20,794 --> 01:24:22,318
Go on your way.
That's my advice.
1544
01:24:22,361 --> 01:24:24,015
Just keep the peace,
go on your way.
1545
01:24:24,276 --> 01:24:27,453
[Klan leader] What you see
in front of you is freedom.
1546
01:24:27,497 --> 01:24:30,152
And we're gonna exercise
that freedom
1547
01:24:30,195 --> 01:24:31,805
whether you like it or not.
1548
01:24:32,632 --> 01:24:35,940
We're here to make
all White Aryans proud.
1549
01:24:40,945 --> 01:24:42,120
What's the story?
1550
01:24:42,164 --> 01:24:43,252
Made a deal.
1551
01:24:44,557 --> 01:24:46,429
Panthers are parading up
by New Bethel Baptist.
1552
01:24:47,343 --> 01:24:51,347
Don't let the Negro race
and the Jewish communist media
1553
01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:52,739
take away your pride.
1554
01:24:53,305 --> 01:24:55,916
-Your history.
-[cellphone ringing]
1555
01:24:57,657 --> 01:24:58,702
Billy here.
1556
01:25:00,617 --> 01:25:01,618
What?
1557
01:25:04,011 --> 01:25:05,187
I'll meet ya there.
1558
01:25:07,537 --> 01:25:10,105
Not enough news cameras up
by the church for 'em.
1559
01:25:10,975 --> 01:25:14,109
The Panthers is headin' back
here for the media.
1560
01:25:14,805 --> 01:25:16,502
Hey Billy. Billy.
1561
01:25:17,677 --> 01:25:18,765
Be careful.
1562
01:25:20,898 --> 01:25:22,378
...is a White Aryan.
1563
01:25:23,205 --> 01:25:25,946
Though you may have to wake up
to the fact one day
1564
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:28,166
that you have to defend
yourselves...
1565
01:25:29,211 --> 01:25:36,131
[ominous music playing]
1566
01:25:43,529 --> 01:25:44,835
You all know the deal.
1567
01:25:46,315 --> 01:25:48,360
I ain't lettin' ya all in
with them weapons.
1568
01:25:48,404 --> 01:25:50,145
Then you got yourself a problem.
1569
01:25:50,449 --> 01:25:51,711
You all ain't coming in here.
1570
01:25:51,755 --> 01:25:53,931
I got me a judge's order
and I aim to enforce it.
1571
01:25:54,801 --> 01:25:56,499
[Khalid X] You don't wanna go up
against us.
1572
01:25:57,021 --> 01:25:58,414
[Billy] Damn right I don't.
1573
01:25:58,457 --> 01:26:01,765
But I'm gonna do it.
I'll do whatever I have to do.
1574
01:26:02,157 --> 01:26:05,638
I got me uh, plenty officers.
You want me to call 'em up?
1575
01:26:06,248 --> 01:26:07,162
Call 'em.
1576
01:26:16,867 --> 01:26:17,868
Look.
1577
01:26:19,913 --> 01:26:21,872
You all could put this
in your win column.
1578
01:26:21,915 --> 01:26:23,961
Make a choice
and go to the courthouse.
1579
01:26:24,918 --> 01:26:26,877
But you all gotta put up
your guns to do it.
1580
01:26:31,273 --> 01:26:33,057
[Klan leader]
They're making us take down
1581
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:34,754
the confederate flag,
1582
01:26:34,798 --> 01:26:37,017
because the Negro race
don't like it.
1583
01:26:37,061 --> 01:26:38,628
Well, what about our rights?
1584
01:26:39,063 --> 01:26:40,543
What about how we feel?
1585
01:26:40,586 --> 01:26:41,718
[indistinct yelling]
1586
01:26:43,154 --> 01:26:44,329
-[Khalid X] Why are we here?
-[Panthers] Black power!
1587
01:26:44,373 --> 01:26:45,678
[Walter] Shit.
This is just what we need.
1588
01:26:45,722 --> 01:26:47,767
-[Khalid X] Why are we here?
-[Panthers] Black power!
1589
01:26:47,811 --> 01:26:49,291
We didn't sell you all
into slavery!
1590
01:26:50,030 --> 01:26:52,294
Get all the town folks
out of here quick, now! Come on.
1591
01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:54,818
-And what do they fear?
-[Panthers] Black power!
1592
01:26:55,166 --> 01:26:56,515
[Klan leader]
We Christianized you.
1593
01:26:56,776 --> 01:26:59,649
We rescued you from the land
that God gave to Cain.
1594
01:27:00,215 --> 01:27:03,130
The disease-infested,
poverty-stricken...
1595
01:27:03,392 --> 01:27:05,829
bongo-beating continent
of Africa.
1596
01:27:06,264 --> 01:27:08,440
-I'm here to tell you--
-Kill all these White devils.
1597
01:27:08,701 --> 01:27:10,573
-Kiss my ass, nigger!
-Black power!
1598
01:27:10,616 --> 01:27:11,704
White power!
1599
01:27:13,097 --> 01:27:14,925
[Billy] Carol do it,
send 'em in. Send 'em all in!
1600
01:27:15,186 --> 01:27:18,363
[indistinct yelling]
1601
01:27:18,407 --> 01:27:20,409
[Khalid X]
Let me in, damn it, right now.
1602
01:27:21,584 --> 01:27:23,194
[Billy]
Now listen. Listen to me.
1603
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,457
Look, I told you. I told you--
1604
01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:26,980
You listening to me?
1605
01:27:27,329 --> 01:27:28,330
I told you.
1606
01:27:29,809 --> 01:27:30,854
You need to speak to the press
and y'heard the sheriff,
1607
01:27:30,897 --> 01:27:31,942
he gonna let you speak.
1608
01:27:33,335 --> 01:27:34,423
[Khalid X] Ain't nobody
listening to you, sellout.
1609
01:27:34,466 --> 01:27:35,554
You can speak.
The press is right here.
1610
01:27:35,946 --> 01:27:37,252
They'll hear everything you say.
1611
01:27:38,905 --> 01:27:40,124
But you start riling each other,
you're gonna see a side of me
1612
01:27:40,167 --> 01:27:41,256
you wish you'd never seen.
1613
01:27:43,345 --> 01:27:45,695
You put that arm out there
again, I'm gonna break it off.
1614
01:27:46,348 --> 01:27:48,306
Those White devils are spouting.
1615
01:27:48,350 --> 01:27:50,439
You are part of
the racist conspiracy.
1616
01:27:50,482 --> 01:27:51,875
We are here to protest.
1617
01:27:53,442 --> 01:27:54,617
[Klan leader] ...he's gonna
wanna make a home with you.
1618
01:27:54,660 --> 01:27:56,749
[Khalid X] Hooded devil.
Show me your face.
1619
01:27:56,793 --> 01:27:58,229
Herd 'em over this side.
1620
01:27:58,273 --> 01:28:00,231
[indistinct chatter]
1621
01:28:00,275 --> 01:28:02,755
We are the antidote
to those White devils.
1622
01:28:02,799 --> 01:28:04,453
We are the new
Black Panther party,
1623
01:28:04,496 --> 01:28:06,106
all the voices of Black people,
1624
01:28:06,150 --> 01:28:09,196
here in Jasper, Texas,
and throughout America.
1625
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,286
Listen to the voices
of Black people.
1626
01:28:11,329 --> 01:28:14,637
You cowardly old man
and you hooded White devils
1627
01:28:14,898 --> 01:28:17,335
had better thank
whatever God's grace
1628
01:28:17,379 --> 01:28:21,296
that these police officers
are here to hold us back.
1629
01:28:22,471 --> 01:28:23,820
Ain't nothin' but a show.
1630
01:28:24,429 --> 01:28:25,778
[Walter] Just using Jasper.
1631
01:28:25,822 --> 01:28:27,302
And James Jr. too.
1632
01:28:27,345 --> 01:28:30,348
[indistinct chatter]
1633
01:28:30,392 --> 01:28:32,132
[Klan leader] We rescued you.
1634
01:28:32,176 --> 01:28:33,830
We civilized you.
1635
01:28:33,873 --> 01:28:38,965
[indistinct chatter]
1636
01:28:39,009 --> 01:28:40,619
[Sgt. Carter]
All done, now. Day's over.
1637
01:28:40,663 --> 01:28:43,143
Okay now, good day.
Back up for me. Keep moving.
1638
01:28:43,709 --> 01:28:46,364
[Billy] That's it.
We've been kind to you all.
1639
01:28:46,408 --> 01:28:48,018
You had your free expressions,
1640
01:28:48,061 --> 01:28:49,846
you said all you wanted to say,
didn't ya?
1641
01:28:50,412 --> 01:28:52,979
Now it's time to go.
Time to go home, everybody.
1642
01:28:53,284 --> 01:28:54,546
[R.C.] Ain't nothin' but a show.
1643
01:28:56,113 --> 01:28:59,943
[Billy] Well, good Lord seen us
through this day somehow.
1644
01:29:01,118 --> 01:29:02,337
[R.C.] Yeah. Amen.
1645
01:29:03,294 --> 01:29:05,905
Now, if he can just see us
through this trial.
1646
01:29:06,993 --> 01:29:09,518
[Guy James] Well, it's like
I tell my little leaguers.
1647
01:29:10,083 --> 01:29:11,607
When the pressure's on...
1648
01:29:11,650 --> 01:29:13,086
there's some
that can hit the ball
1649
01:29:13,130 --> 01:29:14,392
and some that can't.
1650
01:29:15,741 --> 01:29:17,264
You all did real good.
1651
01:29:18,135 --> 01:29:19,832
[Nancy] I was so worried
about the children
1652
01:29:19,876 --> 01:29:21,399
listening on the radio.
1653
01:29:22,182 --> 01:29:23,662
Such ugly language.
1654
01:29:24,271 --> 01:29:29,015
You know,
I consider myself a good guy,
1655
01:29:29,538 --> 01:29:32,410
uh, I'm color blind.
1656
01:29:32,454 --> 01:29:35,674
But it-it upsets me
to see mixed-race couples,
1657
01:29:35,718 --> 01:29:38,764
not that they're together.
It's the kids I worry about.
1658
01:29:38,808 --> 01:29:41,767
It's real hard on-
on mixed-race kids.
1659
01:29:42,594 --> 01:29:44,161
We just ain't there yet.
1660
01:29:49,166 --> 01:29:50,515
Well, I don't disagree with ya.
1661
01:29:52,125 --> 01:29:53,866
I wouldn't want my daughter
marrying a White boy neither.
1662
01:30:01,831 --> 01:30:03,789
-Food's good.
-[Mary] Mm-hm.
1663
01:30:04,486 --> 01:30:06,270
Yeah. Amen.
1664
01:30:07,706 --> 01:30:12,232
[dramatic music playing]
1665
01:30:18,935 --> 01:30:20,763
Something on your mind?
1666
01:30:23,983 --> 01:30:27,857
I just don't believe
that garbage...
1667
01:30:28,901 --> 01:30:31,164
that K.K. man was spouting out.
1668
01:30:32,209 --> 01:30:33,819
What about them Panthers?
1669
01:30:35,386 --> 01:30:37,127
Kill the White devil.
1670
01:30:39,869 --> 01:30:42,698
You don't wanna see me dead,
do you R.C.?
1671
01:30:42,741 --> 01:30:44,700
I ain't never said
nothin' like that.
1672
01:30:51,620 --> 01:30:53,926
Ain't you never said
that word, nigger?
1673
01:30:53,970 --> 01:30:56,755
Nigger?
Ain't you said that before?
1674
01:30:57,147 --> 01:30:58,148
Huh?
1675
01:30:58,540 --> 01:31:00,759
You never said the word
honky cracker?
1676
01:31:02,326 --> 01:31:04,415
Redneck peckerwood?
1677
01:31:06,112 --> 01:31:08,375
Let he who is without sin...
1678
01:31:08,419 --> 01:31:10,203
Cast the first stone.
1679
01:31:10,595 --> 01:31:14,730
[dramatic music playing]
1680
01:31:42,801 --> 01:31:44,194
[Guy James]
And in these letters,
1681
01:31:44,237 --> 01:31:45,456
what'd he say was gonna happen
1682
01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:47,284
when he came back here
after prison?
1683
01:31:48,590 --> 01:31:52,507
[Brandi] He said he was gonna
make hisself well-known
1684
01:31:53,072 --> 01:31:54,900
by doing something.
1685
01:31:56,423 --> 01:31:57,990
But he didn't mention what.
1686
01:32:08,958 --> 01:32:10,568
Regardless...
1687
01:32:10,612 --> 01:32:12,352
of the outcome of this,
1688
01:32:12,701 --> 01:32:16,531
we have made and shall die
proudly remembered, if need be.
1689
01:32:17,793 --> 01:32:20,273
Much Aryan love,
respect and honor,
1690
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:23,538
my brother in arms, Sieg Heil...
1691
01:32:24,016 --> 01:32:25,452
signed Possum.
1692
01:32:26,453 --> 01:32:28,543
Now you intercepted this note
when it was being passed
1693
01:32:28,586 --> 01:32:30,283
between the defendant
and the co-defendant,
1694
01:32:30,327 --> 01:32:31,720
Lawrence Russell Brewer.
1695
01:32:32,068 --> 01:32:33,243
Yes, sir.
1696
01:32:39,858 --> 01:32:45,516
[dramatic music playing]
1697
01:33:30,126 --> 01:33:33,172
[James] Even in death,
we separated.
1698
01:33:35,566 --> 01:33:36,523
R.C....
1699
01:33:37,699 --> 01:33:40,615
if any good could come
from Son's death,
1700
01:33:43,182 --> 01:33:45,837
we think that old fence
should go.
1701
01:33:47,447 --> 01:33:48,535
It's a matter of time.
1702
01:33:49,798 --> 01:33:52,496
It's like the old days
still ain't changed.
1703
01:33:52,888 --> 01:33:54,280
And...
1704
01:33:55,325 --> 01:33:57,501
after what them men did to Son,
1705
01:33:59,024 --> 01:34:00,635
it'd be saying something.
1706
01:34:03,115 --> 01:34:06,075
If it was uh,
city property...
1707
01:34:06,553 --> 01:34:07,903
I'd do it right now.
1708
01:34:07,946 --> 01:34:10,253
Turns out that
it's private property,
1709
01:34:10,296 --> 01:34:11,602
with its own board.
1710
01:34:12,647 --> 01:34:14,779
Who's on the board?
1711
01:34:15,606 --> 01:34:17,695
That's what we're trying
to find out right now.
1712
01:34:20,002 --> 01:34:22,221
Don't worry. We get to it.
1713
01:34:23,788 --> 01:34:26,138
[Dr. Brown] Now here
you can see the abrasions
1714
01:34:26,182 --> 01:34:30,534
to the back lateral buttocks
and posterior thighs,
1715
01:34:31,143 --> 01:34:34,277
laceration to the left mid-back,
1716
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:39,021
and a large ground down area
over the sacrum and buttocks.
1717
01:34:39,891 --> 01:34:42,111
Ground down to the lumbar spine.
1718
01:34:42,154 --> 01:34:43,895
[Guy James] Now
there's an obvious difference
1719
01:34:43,939 --> 01:34:45,897
in the shape of the wounds
on the buttocks.
1720
01:34:45,941 --> 01:34:47,377
What does that tell you?
1721
01:34:48,508 --> 01:34:51,424
It's my opinion
that while being dragged,
1722
01:34:51,468 --> 01:34:54,819
Mr. Byrd was attempting
to relieve the pain
1723
01:34:54,863 --> 01:34:56,429
and injuries he was receiving.
1724
01:34:56,473 --> 01:35:00,433
[screaming]
1725
01:35:03,045 --> 01:35:05,438
This uh, dragging
was very painful.
1726
01:35:06,744 --> 01:35:07,745
[screaming]
1727
01:35:09,225 --> 01:35:11,314
In my mind, he was trying
to relieve the pain by...
1728
01:35:11,357 --> 01:35:15,797
swapping one portion of his body
for the other to get relief
1729
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,103
and to keep his head
off the ground.
1730
01:35:19,409 --> 01:35:21,106
[screaming]
1731
01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:23,848
No question in your mind that
James Byrd Jr. was still alive
1732
01:35:23,892 --> 01:35:25,458
when he was chained and dragged?
1733
01:35:26,285 --> 01:35:27,765
No question, whatsoever.
1734
01:35:29,158 --> 01:35:31,595
And the cause of death
was when his head and shoulder
1735
01:35:31,638 --> 01:35:32,509
were ripped off.
1736
01:35:33,597 --> 01:35:35,033
[groans]
1737
01:35:39,255 --> 01:35:42,693
[Dr. Brown] Yes, he was uh,
alive 'til that time.
1738
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:45,391
Thank you.
1739
01:36:02,365 --> 01:36:04,497
Morris Johnson, Wilson Rogers,
1740
01:36:05,020 --> 01:36:07,022
I played basketball with 'em
in High School.
1741
01:36:07,413 --> 01:36:08,414
Right.
1742
01:36:10,155 --> 01:36:11,809
Quinnie, track.
1743
01:36:13,245 --> 01:36:14,899
Yeah, Robert Quinn, yeah.
1744
01:36:16,335 --> 01:36:19,251
All good friends.
When I was scout master
1745
01:36:19,295 --> 01:36:21,340
I had Black kids in my troop.
1746
01:36:21,645 --> 01:36:23,473
Honey, who are you convincing?
1747
01:36:25,562 --> 01:36:28,521
We ask the Lord to please
take care of us
1748
01:36:28,565 --> 01:36:33,613
and we thank Him and the cook
for this beautiful meal.
1749
01:36:34,049 --> 01:36:35,093
Amen.
1750
01:36:35,137 --> 01:36:36,791
-[group] Amen.
-[woman] Amen.
1751
01:36:39,315 --> 01:36:40,533
Pass the bread.
1752
01:36:40,577 --> 01:36:43,188
'Fore--before you all get uh,
busy eating,
1753
01:36:44,711 --> 01:36:46,148
I've got something to tell ya.
1754
01:36:47,279 --> 01:36:49,064
Especially you young ones.
1755
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:52,807
There's somethin' uh...
1756
01:36:53,895 --> 01:36:56,071
that I'd forgotten.
Maybe I didn't wanna remember.
1757
01:36:57,333 --> 01:37:01,076
But uh, about uh, 30 years ago.
1758
01:37:02,294 --> 01:37:05,820
Your cousin Leroy.
My sister Norva's son.
1759
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,346
The police...
1760
01:37:11,608 --> 01:37:12,957
came to his house...
1761
01:37:13,523 --> 01:37:15,003
and pulled him out of bed,
1762
01:37:16,656 --> 01:37:18,484
and accused him of fooling
around with some-some...
1763
01:37:18,528 --> 01:37:19,572
White woman.
1764
01:37:20,312 --> 01:37:21,313
[grunting]
1765
01:37:21,618 --> 01:37:22,837
[officer] Stop it!
1766
01:37:23,315 --> 01:37:25,274
[officer] You so much
as look at a White girl,
1767
01:37:25,317 --> 01:37:27,189
you'll be dead.
You hear me boy?
1768
01:37:30,540 --> 01:37:31,802
Stay out there!
1769
01:37:32,194 --> 01:37:33,499
And they beat him.
1770
01:37:34,761 --> 01:37:35,937
[officer] Hear me?
1771
01:37:37,503 --> 01:37:39,462
-Stay down.
-They beat him bad.
1772
01:37:39,854 --> 01:37:42,900
[grunting]
1773
01:37:45,903 --> 01:37:47,644
When I went to the hospital...
1774
01:37:49,167 --> 01:37:50,777
broke down and cried.
1775
01:37:58,307 --> 01:37:59,308
His face was uh...
1776
01:38:00,526 --> 01:38:03,703
so swollen, that uh,
looked like uh...
1777
01:38:04,008 --> 01:38:05,227
like jelly.
1778
01:38:07,969 --> 01:38:11,059
When I asked Norva
to do somethin',
1779
01:38:11,102 --> 01:38:12,756
to press some charges,
1780
01:38:13,931 --> 01:38:15,237
-she said uh--
-No.
1781
01:38:17,152 --> 01:38:19,197
-We have to live here.
-[R.C.] We have to live here.
1782
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,897
-We can't cause no trouble.
-We can't cause no trouble.
1783
01:38:26,117 --> 01:38:28,337
-We just gotta let it go.
-[R.C.] We just gotta let it go.
1784
01:38:29,642 --> 01:38:32,210
Now I haven't thought about that
in a long time.
1785
01:38:35,648 --> 01:38:37,433
It's dangerous to...
1786
01:38:38,173 --> 01:38:39,348
forget.
1787
01:38:40,740 --> 01:38:42,568
It's dangerous to remember.
1788
01:38:44,266 --> 01:38:45,658
Because then...
1789
01:38:46,485 --> 01:38:48,444
you got to do somethin'.
1790
01:39:01,152 --> 01:39:03,285
[man] You know it ain't
city property, so...
1791
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,330
it really
ain't none of your business.
1792
01:39:05,374 --> 01:39:06,984
[city manager]
But it affects Jasper
1793
01:39:07,028 --> 01:39:09,900
both in terms of appearance
and actuality.
1794
01:39:10,335 --> 01:39:13,251
[Catholic priest] Gentlemen,
we're simply here to...
1795
01:39:13,860 --> 01:39:16,037
ask you to look into your hearts
1796
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,691
and uh,
do what you know is right.
1797
01:39:18,735 --> 01:39:20,345
[man]
It was just cow fence
1798
01:39:20,389 --> 01:39:22,043
just to keep the cattle out.
1799
01:39:22,608 --> 01:39:25,960
Then uh, coloreds starting
burying on the other side of it.
1800
01:39:26,786 --> 01:39:28,875
So I really don't get
the problem.
1801
01:39:31,356 --> 01:39:32,662
Well, it...
1802
01:39:34,751 --> 01:39:38,450
it--it's a symbol, sir.
It's a--it's insulting.
1803
01:39:38,494 --> 01:39:41,236
[man] It's halfway down, anyhow.
1804
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:42,846
It don't mean nothin'.
1805
01:39:42,889 --> 01:39:44,543
[Catholic Priest]
But it is still keeping
1806
01:39:44,587 --> 01:39:48,983
-the two sides apart.
-It's the way it's always been.
1807
01:39:49,505 --> 01:39:50,985
Well, that don't mean
it's right.
1808
01:39:52,073 --> 01:39:53,944
Could you tell me
what difference it makes
1809
01:39:53,988 --> 01:39:55,206
to a dead person?
1810
01:39:55,598 --> 01:39:57,295
It ain't for the dead.
1811
01:39:58,035 --> 01:39:59,558
It's for the living.
1812
01:40:00,777 --> 01:40:02,300
We'll uh, we'll talk...
1813
01:40:02,344 --> 01:40:04,172
with the rest of the board
1814
01:40:04,215 --> 01:40:06,130
and we'll-
we'll let you all know.
1815
01:40:14,617 --> 01:40:20,144
[dramatic music playing]
1816
01:40:33,418 --> 01:40:37,422
[woman vocalizing]
1817
01:40:42,166 --> 01:40:44,081
[reporter] Because of these
procedural tactics,
1818
01:40:44,125 --> 01:40:47,171
it appears the Hate Crimes bill
prompted by the dragging death
1819
01:40:47,215 --> 01:40:49,391
of James Byrd Jr. in Jasper,
1820
01:40:49,434 --> 01:40:51,393
will not come to the floor
for a vote
1821
01:40:51,436 --> 01:40:53,395
in this legislative session...
1822
01:40:53,438 --> 01:40:54,961
in Austin...
1823
01:40:56,137 --> 01:40:58,182
[reporter] In other news,
earlier today,
1824
01:40:58,226 --> 01:41:01,011
Reverend Jesse Jackson
issued his own statement...
1825
01:41:08,932 --> 01:41:10,803
[Bo] All right,
I'll see ya all Saturday, boys.
1826
01:41:11,239 --> 01:41:12,327
[indistinct]
1827
01:41:14,938 --> 01:41:17,201
[Billy] Oh. Air conditioning.
1828
01:41:17,245 --> 01:41:19,769
Nothing like a hardware store
on a hot day.
1829
01:41:19,812 --> 01:41:21,510
Got that right.
How ya doin'?
1830
01:41:21,553 --> 01:41:23,120
[Billy]
Inventory's a bitch, ain't it?
1831
01:41:23,164 --> 01:41:25,296
Yeah.
All you gotta count is bullets.
1832
01:41:28,865 --> 01:41:30,127
Hey, Bo,
1833
01:41:30,562 --> 01:41:32,869
you got lots of Black customers,
don't ya?
1834
01:41:33,304 --> 01:41:35,176
Sell to anybody who'll buy.
1835
01:41:37,526 --> 01:41:39,484
You know they've been having
these meetings,
1836
01:41:39,528 --> 01:41:41,573
and they was wishing
there was more...
1837
01:41:42,226 --> 01:41:44,663
Blacks working in the stores
where they buy.
1838
01:41:46,056 --> 01:41:47,753
What, are you saying
I oughta hire somebody
1839
01:41:47,797 --> 01:41:48,928
on account of they're Black?
1840
01:41:48,972 --> 01:41:50,843
[Billy] No, of course not.
1841
01:41:51,583 --> 01:41:54,586
No, I ain't. Just saying
if there was someone qualified,
1842
01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:56,588
that you should give 'em a shot.
1843
01:41:57,328 --> 01:41:58,460
Shoot, Billy.
1844
01:42:00,026 --> 01:42:00,853
You working for the Chamber
of Commerce all of a sudden?
1845
01:42:00,897 --> 01:42:02,812
-Oh, Lord, no.
-[laughing]
1846
01:42:03,421 --> 01:42:05,031
No, you just stick
to sheriffing, huh?
1847
01:42:05,075 --> 01:42:06,772
But I know you pretty good, Bo.
1848
01:42:07,425 --> 01:42:11,037
What if you had all your money
in a bank
1849
01:42:11,081 --> 01:42:13,344
where there's no White people
working at?
1850
01:42:14,693 --> 01:42:16,826
Think about that,
will ya, partner?
1851
01:42:16,869 --> 01:42:18,175
And I'll catch up later.
1852
01:42:18,219 --> 01:42:20,221
Alright. You take good care now.
1853
01:42:20,830 --> 01:42:23,528
-Goin' back out into it now.
-Keep your head down.
1854
01:42:33,190 --> 01:42:35,366
[judge] Has the jury reached
its verdict?
1855
01:42:35,410 --> 01:42:36,759
Yes we have, Your Honor.
1856
01:42:36,802 --> 01:42:38,804
[judge]
Pass it to the bailiff, please.
1857
01:42:49,685 --> 01:42:52,035
The defendant will rise.
1858
01:42:56,953 --> 01:42:58,520
How do you find?
1859
01:43:00,478 --> 01:43:02,088
We the jury...
1860
01:43:02,132 --> 01:43:03,829
find the defendant...
1861
01:43:03,873 --> 01:43:05,918
-guilty of capital murder.
-Yes.
1862
01:43:05,962 --> 01:43:08,443
-[gavel pounds]
-[applause]
1863
01:43:10,271 --> 01:43:11,228
Order. Order.
1864
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:13,796
Will you all settle down,
please!
1865
01:43:14,666 --> 01:43:16,407
Order.
I will have order in this court.
1866
01:43:17,626 --> 01:43:18,931
-Hush up now.
-Good job.
1867
01:43:18,975 --> 01:43:20,803
[judge] Hearings on
the sentencing will begin
1868
01:43:20,846 --> 01:43:22,457
at 9:00 tomorrow.
1869
01:43:23,327 --> 01:43:25,634
The court is adjourned
for the day.
1870
01:43:27,113 --> 01:43:28,593
[sighs]
1871
01:43:43,913 --> 01:43:45,958
[Sgt. Carter] Stand back.
Back 'em up there, boys.
1872
01:43:46,002 --> 01:43:47,525
We need to get right
through here now.
1873
01:43:47,569 --> 01:43:49,135
Right behind me there. Back up.
1874
01:43:49,658 --> 01:43:51,355
-I said back up.
-[indistinct yelling]
1875
01:43:53,357 --> 01:43:54,663
[reporter] Do you have--
1876
01:43:55,185 --> 01:43:57,100
Do you have anything to say
to the Byrd family?
1877
01:43:57,143 --> 01:43:58,493
They can suck my dick.
1878
01:43:59,581 --> 01:44:01,017
[man] Get that, get that.
1879
01:44:02,671 --> 01:44:05,195
[man] Yeah, you're going to die,
you bastard.
1880
01:44:09,243 --> 01:44:10,287
That's it.
1881
01:44:10,331 --> 01:44:13,595
[indistinct chatter]
1882
01:44:28,262 --> 01:44:30,089
You just wait at the door.
1883
01:44:38,576 --> 01:44:40,883
I wanted to talk before, but...
1884
01:44:42,319 --> 01:44:46,280
didn't feel right 'til we come
to this point in the trial.
1885
01:44:49,979 --> 01:44:53,461
I come to apologize
on behalf of my family.
1886
01:44:55,376 --> 01:44:59,597
I don't know how a boy I raised
could come to this.
1887
01:45:00,946 --> 01:45:02,296
To take a life.
1888
01:45:03,993 --> 01:45:06,256
How he could find it
in hisself to...
1889
01:45:12,218 --> 01:45:13,872
It's not the way I feel.
1890
01:45:19,661 --> 01:45:20,879
It hurts me.
1891
01:45:25,449 --> 01:45:26,624
I'm sorry.
1892
01:45:27,451 --> 01:45:29,888
I'm sorry for your loss.
1893
01:45:40,986 --> 01:45:43,772
You could raise 'em, but...
1894
01:45:46,035 --> 01:45:47,993
once they get grown,
1895
01:45:49,734 --> 01:45:51,214
they're on their own.
1896
01:46:00,179 --> 01:46:03,139
It's not your fault,
what happened.
1897
01:46:05,707 --> 01:46:06,708
Thank you.
1898
01:46:11,582 --> 01:46:13,976
[dramatic music playing]
1899
01:46:15,673 --> 01:46:19,068
You just another man...
1900
01:46:20,025 --> 01:46:21,418
who lost his son.
1901
01:46:39,436 --> 01:46:40,481
[gavel pounds]
1902
01:46:42,308 --> 01:46:45,224
Mr. King,
would you stand, please?
1903
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:02,328
Based on the jury's findings...
1904
01:47:05,114 --> 01:47:06,420
I hereby...
1905
01:47:07,246 --> 01:47:08,639
sentence you to death...
1906
01:47:09,205 --> 01:47:11,033
by lethal injection.
1907
01:47:12,643 --> 01:47:13,688
[man] Yes.
1908
01:47:14,253 --> 01:47:15,907
[whispers]
1909
01:47:24,046 --> 01:47:26,265
If the F.B.I. and the media
hadn't been around here,
1910
01:47:26,309 --> 01:47:29,138
he for damn sure wouldn't be
going off for death row now.
1911
01:47:30,269 --> 01:47:32,402
[reporter] Mayor Horn,
do you have any comment?
1912
01:47:32,446 --> 01:47:34,317
You all gonna believe
what you want,
1913
01:47:34,752 --> 01:47:36,188
no matter what.
1914
01:47:36,232 --> 01:47:37,276
[man] R.C.
1915
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:38,321
[man] R.C.
1916
01:47:40,976 --> 01:47:42,499
-Can I have a word?
-Mm-hm.
1917
01:47:42,543 --> 01:47:43,544
Uh...
1918
01:47:44,501 --> 01:47:46,721
we've been uh,
talking to the committee
1919
01:47:46,764 --> 01:47:48,331
about that fence and uh...
1920
01:48:00,038 --> 01:48:02,127
[R.C.] Hey, wow, that was easy.
1921
01:48:02,606 --> 01:48:04,173
[indistinct chatter]
1922
01:48:08,438 --> 01:48:10,309
Fence has been here
all them years.
1923
01:48:10,353 --> 01:48:12,790
[indistinct chatter]
1924
01:48:13,269 --> 01:48:14,662
It's amazing
what you can accomplish
1925
01:48:14,705 --> 01:48:16,315
when you got a whole lot
of help.
1926
01:48:16,359 --> 01:48:17,882
Yeah, and a acetylene torch.
1927
01:48:18,187 --> 01:48:19,536
At least there's a torch.
1928
01:48:19,580 --> 01:48:24,149
[indistinct chatter]
1929
01:48:36,597 --> 01:48:37,554
Sheriff.
1930
01:48:37,598 --> 01:48:43,299
[dramatic music playing]
1931
01:48:44,953 --> 01:48:46,998
[man vocalizing]
1932
01:48:55,529 --> 01:48:57,661
[reporter] There are still
two more trials to go.
1933
01:48:57,705 --> 01:48:59,881
Russell Brewer
and Shawn Allen Berry.
1934
01:48:59,924 --> 01:49:02,361
So the story is far from over.
1935
01:49:02,405 --> 01:49:04,973
And as a strange footnote
to the events here in Jasper,
1936
01:49:05,016 --> 01:49:06,931
there's been a citywide
referendum
1937
01:49:06,975 --> 01:49:10,065
to end the salary for the Mayor
and the City Council.
1938
01:49:10,108 --> 01:49:12,458
Oh, man, that hurts so bad.
1939
01:49:13,111 --> 01:49:14,635
With White districts voting
to end it,
1940
01:49:14,678 --> 01:49:15,853
Black districts voting against.
1941
01:49:15,897 --> 01:49:17,376
[Billy] I can't believe this.
1942
01:49:17,420 --> 01:49:19,074
[reporter] Some people blame
the local economy,
1943
01:49:19,117 --> 01:49:22,512
where the unemployment rate
has risen to over 12%.
1944
01:49:23,034 --> 01:49:24,558
From the courthouse
in Jasper, Texas,
1945
01:49:24,601 --> 01:49:26,647
this is Carol Walsh
for K.N.P.S.
1946
01:49:51,236 --> 01:49:52,673
I went by the house.
1947
01:49:53,412 --> 01:49:55,589
And uh, Mary told me
you was out.
1948
01:49:58,766 --> 01:50:00,463
Thanks for cleaning all this up.
1949
01:50:06,077 --> 01:50:08,297
I heard about the results.
1950
01:50:10,386 --> 01:50:12,780
-That's some bullshit.
-Man.
1951
01:50:12,823 --> 01:50:14,564
Take away your stipend.
1952
01:50:15,957 --> 01:50:17,741
Wasn't that much to begin with.
1953
01:50:19,656 --> 01:50:21,440
Took the council's money, too.
1954
01:50:21,484 --> 01:50:24,618
Times is tight.
The town's losing money.
1955
01:50:26,445 --> 01:50:27,621
Can't hardly pay our bills.
1956
01:50:28,273 --> 01:50:30,624
You're being gracious.
That's huge.
1957
01:50:32,408 --> 01:50:33,627
You want one of these?
1958
01:50:35,803 --> 01:50:37,805
After all this town's
been through.
1959
01:50:41,112 --> 01:50:42,113
Well...
1960
01:50:42,984 --> 01:50:44,159
things...
1961
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:46,857
ain't gonna happen overnight.
1962
01:50:49,294 --> 01:50:50,382
You got it?
1963
01:50:51,819 --> 01:50:54,952
At least people are talking
to each other.
1964
01:50:55,649 --> 01:50:57,128
Listening to each other.
1965
01:51:00,436 --> 01:51:03,134
Keep your eye on the prize,
1966
01:51:04,135 --> 01:51:05,789
somebody once said.
1967
01:51:08,749 --> 01:51:11,360
You know that damn thing
hardly didn't pass.
1968
01:51:12,317 --> 01:51:14,145
Lots of Whites voted against it.
1969
01:51:15,103 --> 01:51:17,714
Probably more
than would have before.
1970
01:51:23,285 --> 01:51:24,590
Still stinks.
1971
01:51:26,418 --> 01:51:27,724
Leastways...
1972
01:51:30,118 --> 01:51:32,250
we ain't pretending no more.
1973
01:51:38,779 --> 01:51:40,345
Like that cigar?
1974
01:51:44,045 --> 01:51:48,045
It's good.
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