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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,560 Here's how the fairy tale goes. 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,120 Fall in love. Get married. Be faithful. 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,440 Grow old together and die. 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,040 I do. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Not. 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,160 I've lived most of my life thinking marriage was my destiny. 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,200 But look around. Divorce everywhere 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,600 and a whole lot of cheating going on. 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,240 It's the sex menu. 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,600 He's definitely not faithful. Look at that guy. 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,800 The dream of one true love ain't cutting it anymore. 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,360 And it's easy to find almost, 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,160 but love is so much more complicated. 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,920 It's not a fairy tale. If anything, it's a scary movie. 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,080 With, you know, nice parts in the middle, yeah. 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Is there a better way to find love with more than just one person? 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,760 She's my wife, and then he's our boyfriend. 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,280 This one is a polyamorous group of people 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,080 hanging out together, casually. 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Of course. 21 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,920 Is it your wedding day today? 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,120 -Oh, my gosh! Congratulations! -Thank you. 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,000 How many times have you been in love? 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,000 This is probably the only time. 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Do you believe that monogamy is what comes naturally to humans? 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,000 I don't think that it's something that comes naturally, 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,560 but I do think it's something that... we've come to expect. 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,200 If for some crazy reason, one of you ended up wanting someone else, 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,440 or, like, wanting to explore maybe something, 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 would you expect to be honest about it? 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,320 I guess it would depend on the circumstances. 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,000 -Yeah. -Um... 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,000 I think if I felt like there was some sort of, like, premeditation, 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,440 -I think it'd be over immediately. -Yeah, of course it would. 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,960 But I feel like if it was something that happened unexpectedly 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,880 and if my heart felt like I wanted to keep trying, 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,000 -I probably would do that. Yeah. -Thank you. 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,000 You seem so calm for somebody who's about to get married. 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,360 -Thank you. -You look absolutely so stunning. 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,800 -I hope you have an incredible day. -Thank you. 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,960 It's not the fairy tale we've been fed. 42 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 I just think that's what every fell... fairy... 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,920 What every fell... 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Wow. 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Every time I'm in love, I envision marrying the person that I'm with, 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,360 and I do envision being with them for the rest of my life. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,560 I'm an old school-hopeless romantic in that way. 48 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:52,120 Whether or not that lasts, it's what I feel in that moment. 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Once I'm in love, then it's, like... 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,560 and everything else is just, "Goodbye, world." 51 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,880 But once you go through heartbreak and then heartbreak and heartbreak, 52 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:03,280 you go, "Wait, this is not worth it. This is silly." 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,920 If it breaks again, what if it doesn't get back together? 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,840 I mean, I'm still mending from not one relationship 55 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,400 but three, four... three. 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Yeah. 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Being in all these relationships, 58 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,040 I thought I knew what I was looking for, 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,480 but maybe now I don't really know what that is. 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,040 I want to discover what else there is 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,640 because usually I've just kind of gone for monogamy, 62 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,640 but maybe that isn't the right answer. 63 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:35,360 I really want to believe in love and marriage and all that stuff. 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,400 But after a string of relationships, my love life needs a makeover. 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,800 So I'm starting by asking the most basic question of all, 66 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,360 what is love? 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Forget poets and philosophers. 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,080 This is one where science might have the edge. 69 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,760 So, we are in Santa Barbara. 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,200 I'm about to meet a scientist who is going to show me 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,760 what love looks like in my brain. 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Or even if I have one at all, so... 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,160 The woman with this terrifying power? 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,960 Bianca Acevedo. 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,560 She can tell if you are in love just by scanning your brain. 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,720 -Hi. Hey. I'm Cara. -Hi. 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Nice to meet you. Come on in. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,720 We're going to ask you to change into scrubs 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,600 to make sure you don't have any metal, 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,280 and then we'll get you started. 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,840 Oh, my God. Okay, cool. 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,720 Now, the idea is that my brain will be scanned 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,320 while I look at a load of photos 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,400 of different people from across my life. 85 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Oh, my gosh, it's chilly. 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Are these going to keep me warm? Not really. 87 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,120 We're going to give you a blanket. 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,280 Pictures of family, close friends and relationships. 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,680 I'll be talking to you. 90 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,320 I'll say, "This next scan is gonna be five minutes long. 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Hold still as much as you can." 92 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,720 If I feel love, my brain 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,160 will light up in a very particular way 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,560 and the MRI machine 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 will basically reveal my secrets to the world. 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Okay, Cara, are you ready? 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Yeah. 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,120 Counting down, three, three, two, one. 99 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,840 The first photo Bianca randomly selects 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,200 is an old friend I'm extremely close to 101 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,000 and who also happens to be incredibly attractive. 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,280 Now, how do we know she's not asleep? 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,680 We don't. 104 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,920 Hey, Cara, how are you doing? 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,120 She's snoring. 106 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,520 She's snoring. 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,400 Cara? 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,120 -Cara? How are you doing? -I'm good. 109 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,360 -You fell asleep. -I know. I snore. I'm sorry. 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,760 It's okay. 111 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,720 Hey, it was comfy, warm and dark. 112 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,680 And looking at my friend just made me feel secure. 113 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,480 -Quick blast of caffeine... -Goodnight. 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,440 ...and it's back into the love machine. 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,200 It's just really cosy here. 116 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Here we go. 117 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,840 After a few more photos of other friends and family, 118 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,640 Bianca shows me someone 119 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,440 I've had a rather complicated relationship with. 120 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,920 We're looking at what Cara's brain is doing 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,040 when she's looking at images of her ex-partner. 122 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,280 How is everything going? 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,320 -Good. -Fantastic. 124 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,520 We're going to come in and get you now. 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,520 The study is over. 126 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,000 A quick breather, and it's results time. 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,800 What did you find out? 128 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Yeah, so we typically see this... 129 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,520 First up, my hot friend. 130 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,000 What does my brain have to say? 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,560 When you look at the picture of the person you admire, 132 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,440 your brain activity is not that much there. 133 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Doc, you see a lack of love, I see a sneaky snooze. 134 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,600 Now, let's see how my brain reacts to a much more complex relationship. 135 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,720 So, you ready to see your brain response to your ex? 136 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Sure. 137 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,760 -This is the response to your ex. -Jesus Christ. 138 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,520 So you're showing activity 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 in both the right and the left ventral tegmental area 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,000 that we see in people that are in love. 141 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,360 -Wait, what? -We see this brain activation 142 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,720 -in people that are in love. -No way. 143 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,760 Yep. 144 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Right. Cool. Good to know. 145 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Oh, God. 146 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,480 -Were you expecting to see that? -Definitely not. 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,640 But I understand there's a strong emotional response. 148 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 But it definitely wasn't love. It was sadness and anger. 149 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,080 But is that what love is meant to be like? No. 150 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Well, we do see a lot of activation 151 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,600 in the areas related to emotional memory. 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Thanks brain for making me aware of these things. 153 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Apparently, feeling in love stimulates bits of the brain 154 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,080 that release the rewarding, feel-good chemical dopamine. 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,280 Love is basically a drug. 156 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,560 The ventral tegmental area lights up in response to rewards. 157 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,520 So, in response to the face image of your ex, 158 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,760 you still find it rewarding. 159 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,120 -Life is complicated. -It is indeed. 160 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,960 One of the things that has been most surprising 161 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,480 is just how tenacious love is. 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Like, it's a really strong drive. 163 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,760 Even if couples are not always doing great, 164 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,640 there is still a strong bonding connection there. 165 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,080 They will still show 166 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,640 this intense reward-related activity in their brain. 167 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:51,560 -Love is a beautiful thing. -No. 168 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,760 But what Bianca's uncomfortably revealing work shows 169 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,720 is that love is real and tenacious, 170 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,840 even if we're not always conscious of our response. 171 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,400 No wonder it sometimes feels like an addiction. 172 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,960 And that sense of reward leads us 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,920 to this whole business of monogamous marriage. 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,600 I was definitely sold the wedding... fantasy. 175 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,000 Yeah, it was all the idea 176 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,480 of, like, marrying someone that will look after you 177 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,040 and maybe have, like, a nice title in their name. 178 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,440 But I was like, "I just don't want to rely on anyone ever. 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,240 I want to make all my own money and I want to... 180 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,800 rely on myself and myself only. See ya." 181 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,200 But that's me, and that probably leans 182 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,240 into more of my little, like, masculine boy side. 183 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,800 I don't feel like monogamous marriage 184 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,080 would work for me, and I know I'm not alone. 185 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Welcome to Japan, 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,760 where those reservations about old-school weddings 187 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,440 are getting a very modern twist. 188 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,280 I'll attend a wedding I don't know much about, 189 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,360 but I've heard it's not your average wedding. 190 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:12,720 Midori is 28 and a stunning bride. 191 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,480 So, what about the groom? 192 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,360 It started three years ago. Well, when I first saw Morgyn, 193 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,440 I saw him, I was kind of surprised 194 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,480 and couldn't look directly at him for a moment. 195 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,360 I felt like I was really struck. 196 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,760 I felt that I was already attracted to him at first sight. 197 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,320 But when the groom is wheeled in, 198 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,920 this wedding suddenly takes an unexpected turn. 199 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 He's a character 200 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:47,880 in a computer game called The Sims 4, 201 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,760 and his name is Morgyn Ember. 202 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,760 I'm actually a huge fan of The Sims. 203 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,920 It was something I used to play a lot when I was younger. 204 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,400 I always felt very attached. 205 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,240 I've been following his movements in the game 206 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,000 for a long, long time now. 207 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,280 And I've noticed that he's giving me 208 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,560 a very favourable look from behind the screen, 209 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,560 and I felt that in my heart. 210 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,560 We will continue to love 211 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,920 and support each other, 212 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,600 and to spend a lifetime together. 213 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,320 Now, I would like to ask you two to please kiss. 214 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,920 I was afflicted by a severe inferiority complex back then. 215 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,640 He accepts me exactly as I am. 216 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,920 And the moment I realised that, 217 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,400 I suddenly became able to accept him as real. 218 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,440 How much pressure was there to get married? 219 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,360 In Japan, the idea still remains 220 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,240 that women are supposed to marry and have children. 221 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,600 More than ten years ago, my mother told me, 222 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:02,160 "Hurry up and get married 223 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,960 so I can play with my grandchildren." 224 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,560 I don't want to have children 225 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 just to be playthings for my parents. 226 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,920 Okay, at first I was bamboozled. 227 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,840 But getting to know Midori, I realise this is a unique reaction 228 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,200 to the weight of her family's expectations. 229 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Marrying fictional characters isn't for me, 230 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,200 but I can massively relate to her. 231 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,880 What do you feel like meeting Morgyn 232 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,080 has made you understand about yourself? 233 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,920 I believe, that Morgyn 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,680 is a transgender man. 235 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,760 I realised, I was able to learn, 236 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,040 that gender is not just men and women. 237 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,560 And I thought, while I was focusing on him, 238 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,360 "Maybe I'm not a woman either. 239 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,680 Maybe there's part of me that feels masculine?" 240 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,040 Through Morgyn, Midori discovered she's X-gender, 241 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,720 the Japanese equivalent of non-binary. 242 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Morgyn also helped Midori unlock her sexuality. 243 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,440 I am probably bisexual, 244 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,560 but I wasn't able to accept myself. 245 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,080 But because I liked Morgyn, 246 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,600 I realised it is something 247 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:18,480 that can be accepted as normal. 248 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,800 I'm beginning to get it. 249 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,840 Midori is young, queer and gender-questioning 250 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,440 in a traditional society 251 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,440 where same-sex marriage still isn't legal. 252 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,440 So she's living out her dreams of love 253 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,600 through a monogamous wedding ceremony 254 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:37,040 making the old rituals work for her. 255 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,560 We hereby pronounce the two of you to be officially husband and wife. 256 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Congratulations! 257 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,560 I feel that by actually holding the wedding ceremony 258 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,000 here in the real world, 259 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,240 I really want to walk more with him in this reality. 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,920 It's a step beyond the relationship 261 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,160 between the player and the person in the game. 262 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,120 -Thank you. -Thank you. 263 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,320 Thank you. 264 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,200 Yay! 265 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,720 The love that was exuding, 266 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,440 you could feel it in every ounce of what she was saying. 267 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,920 I felt so overly emotional and happy for her, 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,280 and that's the most incredible thing in the world. 269 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,120 She's found the greatest gift in the world, self-love. 270 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,680 It's not just Japan 271 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,600 where heterosexual monogamous marriage 272 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,000 is being questioned. 273 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,000 32% of Americans have never walked down the aisle. 274 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Global divorce rates have nearly doubled since 1970. 275 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,760 So no surprise then cheating is on the up, up, up. 276 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Good luck staying faithful in Italy, where 47% of men admit to affairs. 277 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,680 What about the boring old Brits? 278 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,520 Surprisingly, 20% of us are playing away. 279 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,760 While across the pond in the US, 280 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,600 20% of men and 13% of women fess up to marital infidelity. 281 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Have you ever been cheated on? 282 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,880 What's that like? 283 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,280 It's rough. Yeah, being cheated on is not ideal. 284 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,360 But, you know, I've also cheated. 285 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,120 I usually prefer to be broken up with 286 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,120 than to break up with someone. 287 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,480 I find the guilt of breaking up with someone harder 288 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,880 than being broken up with. 289 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,800 I'd rather stay in the relationship until it eats me alive. 290 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,400 It's a very weird thing to do. 291 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,720 I don't know why I stay. 292 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,520 The problem is as well when you don't have much self-worth, 293 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,680 if someone cheats on you, you take them back and let it go, 294 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,440 which is the stupidest thing. 295 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Once you lose trust for someone, it will never come back. 296 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Why continue being in a relationship where you don't trust someone? 297 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Beats me. But I've done it. 298 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Cheating is so widespread, 299 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,240 it's a no-brainer we humans find strict monogamy so difficult. 300 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,960 But in one country, changing attitudes toward infidelity 301 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,960 appear to have created a business opportunity. 302 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Mexico City, devoutly Catholic, nuns galore. 303 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Yet, if you're looking for a place for some very glamorous two-timing, 304 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,240 here you're spoilt for choice. 305 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Now we are going to a love hotel 306 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,480 to see one of the most important factors, 307 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,760 which is privacy. 308 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Where guilt and shame are not invited. 309 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,240 It is made to enjoy and relax. 310 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Aidee has seen more than a hundred love hotels 311 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,440 open in Mexico City in the last ten years. 312 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,040 And they're all over the country. 313 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,240 "What's a love hotel?" I hear you ask. 314 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Well, this ought to give you a clue. 315 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,680 Firstly, we know that there is a market for adultery. 316 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,360 We have different attractions in different rooms. 317 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,760 But there is a wonderful feature, 318 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,600 which is the sex menu. 319 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,280 And this means that you can order to your room 320 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:26,640 anything from costumes, lubricants, love toys. 321 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,280 We really insist you get out of bed 322 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,840 and do the same things in brand new ways. 323 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,440 Can you bring me some drinks, please? 324 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,840 Yes. Thanks. 325 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,880 I think they've arrived. 326 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,200 Here it is. Drinks. Okay? 327 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,480 The waiter has brought them already. 328 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Without me having to interact with anyone. 329 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:54,560 Today visiting a hotel equals cheating. 330 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,040 But why are all these love hotels appearing now? 331 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,040 Well, until recently, just having an affair in Mexico 332 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,080 could land you in jail. 333 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,480 Then ten years ago, the law changed. 334 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,400 Suddenly, cheating was legal. 335 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,320 And love hotels went from secret and seedy 336 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,200 to boutique and mainstream. 337 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Five out of every ten women and six out of every ten men 338 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,280 admit to having been unfaithful. 339 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Whereas ten or 15 years ago, 340 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,960 it was basically 60% of men and 30% of women. 341 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,840 That's a near doubling of infidelity rates 342 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,080 amongst the ladies in a decade or so. 343 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,760 So, it's really interesting how women 344 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,120 maybe now they are admitting to being unfaithful 345 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,040 more than they did before. 346 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:52,560 Or maybe they are more open to having these affairs. 347 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,640 Changing the law lifted the penalties for infidelity 348 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,640 for both men and women. 349 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,440 Yeah, go equality! 350 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,360 But is equal opportunities adultery actually a win? 351 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,720 Let's just say yes. 352 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,120 Now the gap between men who admit to being unfaithful 353 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,280 and women who admit to having been unfaithful 354 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,600 at least once in their lives 355 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,440 has completely closed. 356 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,480 But is it really a surprise 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,240 that so many of us are rubbish at monogamy? 358 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,080 After all, we're animals, 359 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,920 and zoo keeper Alexi Grousis 360 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,400 reckons we've got a lot to learn from the birds and the bees. 361 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,120 And don't forget the horny beasts. 362 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,280 You want to check out these animals? I'll lead the way. 363 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,280 Oh, my God, I'm so excited. 364 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,320 When we look at the animal kingdom, 365 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,040 especially the animals that are most closely related to us, 366 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,760 we see that monogamy 367 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,160 is not as common as we'd like to think it is. 368 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Look at him. I make owl sounds. 369 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,920 Oh, my God, owls are so cool. 370 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Monogamy is most commonly seen in birds, less so in the primates. 371 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 When you look at the primates, they get a little more promiscuous. 372 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,800 I'm more feather than fur, I think, so far at least. 373 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,120 And as for the reptiles... 374 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,080 Turn around. He's definitely not faithful. 375 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,480 Look at that guy. 376 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,640 And, guys, no prizes for guessing which bit of your anatomy 377 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,760 shows just where us humans lie on the fidelity spectrum. 378 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,960 -What is this? -Yeah. 379 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,880 I've put together a nice little demonstration for you. 380 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,640 I've got the relative testes size of different animals. 381 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,440 -So... -Can we call them...? 382 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,640 -I don't. I'm American. -I'm English, though. 383 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,160 -All right. They're... -Or testes or whatever you... 384 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Wait, what? You can't say...? 385 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,920 -Is that a bad word? -But you can say "testes"? 386 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,200 -It might be wise to say testicles? -Testicles. 387 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,440 Testicles? That's... Oops. 388 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,200 When we look at this one right here, 389 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,640 this is roughly the size of an owl monkey's testicles, 390 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,800 which is a very monogamous animal. 391 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,520 The testicle size is almost directly related 392 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,080 to the amount of sperm produced. 393 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,080 But is that meaning the bigger... you have, 394 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280 the more likely you are to be less monogamous? 395 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,960 Potentially. This one right here, 396 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,680 that would be the rough size of a chimpanzee testicle. 397 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,120 -No! -Yeah. 398 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,960 So big... equals promiscuity. 399 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,440 They produce a lot of sperm 400 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680 and a lot of males compete with each other. 401 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,440 -I have a lot of questions now. -Yeah. 402 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Well, before you ask those, let me show you this one. 403 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,680 And humans 404 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,400 are neither strictly monogamous nor highly promiscuous. 405 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,200 -We sit kind of right in the middle. -In the middle. 406 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,480 That's never something I've heard with... before. 407 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,880 Yeah, no kidding, right? 408 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:01,680 Right, let's get this straight. 409 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Nature has given us, I mean, males, medium sized... 410 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Sorry, testicles. 411 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,480 It sounds like we're designed to be neither totally monogamous, 412 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,320 nor totally polygamous. 413 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Let's say, flexible. 414 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:24,960 So, biology says flexible, but society wants stable. 415 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Can we square the circle and have both variety and commitment? 416 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,640 Here's an idea. How about throupling it up? 417 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,160 -My name is Johnisha. -My name is Jeron. 418 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,040 And my name is Destiny. 419 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:40,600 She's my wife, and then he's our boyfriend. 420 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,760 -Oh, you did the same thing. -I did. 421 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,240 I personally like the uncomfort 422 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,480 of, like, when we walk into a room 423 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600 and nobody knows what our dynamic is. 424 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,560 People fill in the details how they will. 425 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,520 So, what brought this tantalising trio together? 426 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,080 We got married last year. 427 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,520 We had actually started wanting to have kids around that time. 428 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280 We either wanted a donor, or we wanted somebody 429 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,720 that was going to also be like a father in the life. 430 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,840 So, me and Jeron actually dated seven years ago, 431 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,720 and we stayed friends 432 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,640 and eventually, like, being in a throuple 433 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,560 sort of kind of fell into our lap. 434 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,720 As far as it being all three people on the same page, 435 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,400 -this is my first time. -Yeah. 436 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,080 -Yeah. For all three of us. -Yeah, same. For all three. 437 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,840 We're always getting like, "Don't you guys get jealous? 438 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,680 Oh, I could never share my man." 439 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,720 But he's like, "Oh, you got two girlfriends? 440 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,640 High five dude!" Like... 441 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,840 Usually it always goes to sex. 442 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,800 "How do you guys have sex?" Like, I don't know. Google. Like... 443 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,680 Especially in the beginning, we had a lot of just honest conversations. 444 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,800 If you can't communicate with just one partner, 445 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,640 two partners is going to be harder. 446 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,200 So communication is key. 447 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,800 Good thing this throuple have communication sorted 448 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,200 because baby Isiah's arrival means domestic arrangements 449 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,960 need a lot more thought and organisation. 450 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,760 There was a lot of questions 451 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,560 about how logistically everything would work. 452 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,560 With there being three sets of grandparents 453 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800 and three sets of aunts and uncles, 454 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,280 everybody wanted to make sure they'd have their time. 455 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Relationships come in all different ways. 456 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,320 It's not something I'd do. 457 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,160 But, you know... I figure, if you don't like it, don't do it. 458 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,600 But it seems that it's working with them. 459 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,840 I like the way they get along together 460 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040 and, you know, co-parent. 461 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:46,760 I give them credit. 462 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Society says you should be with one person, 463 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,440 but, you know, we are human and we have these emotions, 464 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,680 so I don't think it should just be limited to just one person. 465 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,360 It doesn't have to be for everyone, 466 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,160 but, you know, it works for us, and we're happy with it. 467 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,080 It's just more love. 468 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,480 It's just more parents. It's more grandparents. 469 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,240 It's more aunts, more uncles. 470 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Our village to raise our baby is already a step ahead of most. 471 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,160 These suburban throuple trailblazers 472 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,360 show that relationship dynamics are all different. 473 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,920 And they've created an alternative type of family 474 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840 that works for them. 475 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Maybe now's the time for me 476 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 to seriously consider my relationship future. 477 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840 Monogamy has never worked out for me. 478 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,920 But are there any right answers? 479 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,920 Luckily, I know just the evolutionary anthropologist 480 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,600 to help. 481 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,840 So yeah, I want to ask you what is biologically, socially...? 482 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,680 Am I meant to be monogamous? 483 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,240 What can I do? Tell me, doctor. 484 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 So, the inputs into how we end up 485 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080 in terms of our relationship structures are two, okay? 486 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560 You have the biological input, your instincts. 487 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,920 But then we have the really quite powerful cultural influence 488 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,080 on how you behave in relationships and what structures you find. 489 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,600 And that's really influenced 490 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,280 by what society tells you is expected, 491 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,000 maybe the religion you follow, 492 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,920 your examples as you were brought up. 493 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 That can actually overpower 494 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,320 that biological instinct. There's no right answer. 495 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,600 The organisation of relationships is a spectrum. 496 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,400 We've got, like, monogamy here, 497 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,600 right up to more complex things like polyamory. 498 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Given absolute free rein as a human, you should have the choice 499 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,920 to sit on that spectrum where you feel comfortable. 500 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,240 Unfortunately, obviously, in many societies 501 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,080 that freedom is not there. 502 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760 What's your life experience, your relationship history? 503 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,200 I mean, it's... 504 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,400 I've usually tend to have been in long-term relationships, 505 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,120 quite close-ish to each other, 506 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,440 and, you know, always been monogamous 507 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,480 until like there's been, like... 508 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000 maybe an arrangement made at some point later in, 509 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,240 but that's always been the end of it, anyway. 510 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,640 I don't know, I've been single for two years. 511 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,560 Because I have been single 512 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,440 for the longest time I ever have been, 513 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,000 I would like someone to tell me, "This is what you're meant to have." 514 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,240 If it is, "You should be married with a girlfriend and a boyfriend," 515 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,520 I'd be, like, "Dope, cool. Now I know what I'm aiming for, 516 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,160 and let me fill those spots." 517 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,600 You meet one person, get married, have kids. 518 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,240 Like, I like someone telling me what I need to go for 519 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,240 instead of kind of this just endless... 520 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,920 How many people, one person or what gender, or... 521 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,440 Ah, it's a lot! It's confusing. 522 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,200 It's way more complicated because how do I know when that... 523 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,400 How do I know when I've found my family? 524 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,880 So, forget right and wrong. 525 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,280 The relationships that work for us as individuals 526 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:51,840 are a stew of biology, social norms and good-old fashioned lust. 527 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320 Society sold me the dream of monogamy. 528 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,520 But polygamy, multi-partner marriage, 529 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,560 dates way back to ancient times 530 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,320 and is legal or tolerated in over 50 countries. 531 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,600 Problem is, in most cases, 532 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,800 it's one man, many wives, and I've got to say, 533 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800 it seems like it's not a good deal for women. 534 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,960 But one woman is on a mission to shake all that up. 535 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,960 I currently have three intimate partners. 536 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,400 Nyamakela, he is a heterosexual man. 537 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,840 He is the father of my children. He's my fiancé. 538 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Also, my nesting partner, 539 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,840 which basically means we do house things together, 540 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,160 we take care of the children, we have bills, 541 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,040 we have that every day kind of living relationship. 542 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,680 Yeah, I'm very, very blessed. 543 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,760 And my second partner is Kerline. 544 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160 Kerline, come get. 545 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,480 Our dynamic is more of a BDSM dynamic. 546 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,840 We met through a mutual friend, and I'm struggling to focus 547 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,800 because Muvumbi's doing this thing. 548 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,400 She has like this twinkle thing that happens. 549 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,600 Why are you... twinkling at me? 550 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,000 Because I love you. 551 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,400 My third partner is MJ. MJ is my light love affair. 552 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,640 We love listening to music together and holding hands. 553 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Muvumbi's got a lot, literally, all bases covered. 554 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,240 Domesticity, intimacy and BDSM. 555 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,520 So, what more does she want? 556 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720 Well, she also wants to get married. 557 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,280 If I can marry a man and a woman, that's always been my dream. 558 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,560 There's just one problem. 559 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400 At the moment, that's illegal in South Africa. 560 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,840 Men can marry multiple wives, polygyny. 561 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,480 At one time, former South African president Jacob Zuma had four wives. 562 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,920 But women cannot marry multiple husbands, polyandry, 563 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 let alone take a wife and a husband. 564 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,920 I'm an activist and I think that I'm very vocal about polyamory 565 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,360 because it is so close to my value, which is freedom. 566 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,040 I am a member of Poly ZA, 567 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,520 which is a polyamorous group in South Africa. 568 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,760 Muvumbi is campaigning to get the law changed, and guess what? 569 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,040 The government's now mulling over 570 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,760 a new bill that would legalise polyandry. 571 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,320 The signing of the bill 572 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,560 to make it legal for women to marry more than one lover 573 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360 opens that up for me. 574 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,440 I think it's my right to have access to all pleasure. 575 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Men have been living that, and we all want equal rights. 576 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Even though a lot of people feel like poly people 577 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280 aren't about commitment and marriage, I really am. 578 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,200 And I want to build a family. I want to build a tribe. 579 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,960 -Hi. -Hey, babe. Hey, boyfriend. 580 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,280 I think I'm the resident boyfriend. 581 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,160 That's the best title I can think of, you know. 582 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,640 But the thing is, Nyamakela is really not your average guy. 583 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,920 -Yeah. -The fact that this is possible, 584 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,160 that I can make a salad with my two lovers 585 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,120 makes me so happy. 586 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080 So, Muvumbi wants to marry everyone? 587 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,120 I wouldn't say the more the better because you can get saturated. 588 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Everybody has their limits, yeah. And I think right now mine is three. 589 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,000 My saturation limit? Not sure yet. 590 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,040 Can I really imagine myself marrying multiple partners? 591 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,840 In my fantasy in now, what am I thinking about? 592 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Yeah, I would love to live on a farm with my five wives and one man. 593 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Can I say that? 594 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,680 I don't want five wives. That's exhausting. 595 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,360 Okay, loads of husbands and wives may not be for me. 596 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,200 So, how do I work out what is my ideal kind of relationship? 597 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120 Can science help me decide? 598 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640 I don't think it's very attractive that I'm spitting. 599 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000 What are they going to test with this? 600 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,800 So, this is like a genotyping test. 601 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,760 Hold, please. 602 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Different things to basically see 603 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,280 if... like, to tell me more about my biology of relationships. 604 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,760 If I'm genetically destined to be in long-term relationships, 605 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,240 -or if I'm more likely to be single. -Amazing. All from a bit of spit. 606 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,960 All from a bit of spit. 607 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,480 And for the results? 608 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,040 Well, it's back to my brainy friend, Dr Anna. 609 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,320 We asked you for some of your spit and we extracted the DNA from that. 610 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,040 And what we're looking at is three particular genes 611 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,400 associated with how you behave when you're in love. 612 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,360 So, no gene is deterministic, but it's a good pointer. 613 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,560 How did you find this? 614 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,840 How do we correlate that between the actual genes 615 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920 and what it shows with our relationship history? 616 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Okay, so what we did was we took a lot of spit 617 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080 from about 4,000 people. 618 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,360 We took their relationship histories and lots of psychological measures 619 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,880 about their attachment, their socio-sexual orientation, 620 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760 their empathy, all these different sorts of things. 621 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,040 And we looked as whether there was a relationship 622 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,080 between certain genes and some of those traits. 623 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,440 There certainly is a genetic influence 624 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,000 on the way we love, on the way we feel, 625 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,000 and in terms of how we behave when we're in a relationship. 626 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,560 You're so good at your job, man. It's amazing. 627 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,040 I'm so... I just want to know... I can't... What else do I do? 628 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,760 So, Cara, your test results show 629 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,520 that you do not have the nesting gene. 630 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,880 So you are not overly motivated to be in a long-term pair bond. 631 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,200 That you sit midway on the empathy spectrum 632 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,960 and that you do not have the gene 633 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,720 that's going to increase the likelihood that you are single. 634 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Again, confusing, but I like it. 635 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,360 So, your propensity is more towards having a relationship 636 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,880 than not having a relationship. 637 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,920 None of these things are making me so sure about who I am. 638 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,360 This is because love is complicated. 639 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,520 Yeah, that's why I long to not be single, 640 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,280 but I love being alone. 641 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,360 Nesting. Get it. Kind of. 642 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,920 My genes aren't my destiny. 643 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,160 That's a complex mix of environment, biology and just plain chance. 644 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:44,280 In fact, the cutting-edge research Anna talked about 645 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680 shows 32% of people in relationships 646 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,400 carry the gene making them more likely to be single. 647 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,800 But it looks like genetics are a powerful influence on intimacy. 648 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,360 Yeah, so I learnt that... I am not a nester. 649 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,120 I'm medium empathy. 650 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640 People feel double as much as me to other people. 651 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,960 That's like a lot. Yeah, I hate being medium. 652 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,920 I never want to be middle anything. I'd rather have none or all. 653 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,120 That I get obsessive. 654 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,880 So I'm not likely to have long-term relationships genetically, 655 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,800 but I don't wanna be single either. That's cool, confusing. 656 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,280 Thanks, Mum and Dad. I definitely do want to change. 657 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040 I think I have a very unhealthy relationship 658 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,920 with attachment, with love, still with self-love and patterns. 659 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,080 And it's just... the longer I stay single, 660 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,160 I realise it takes a long time to change. 661 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,160 So, is there a way to have it all? 662 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,680 The variety and thrills that come with more than one partner 663 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,800 but instead of being deceptive and secretive about it, 664 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,280 being open and honest instead. 665 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,680 Funny story, here I am frantically searching 666 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200 for a group of polyamourists. 667 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,800 No luck so far. 668 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,560 But I have found a fabulous santarillion 1964. 669 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,320 Here we go. Hurrah! 670 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,520 So cool. Hi, guys. 671 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,360 -Hi! -Hi! 672 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,960 Welcome to a polyamorous cocktail party, 673 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,200 run by the fabulously named Sex Positive LA. 674 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480 So, I'm really excited to meet all of you guys. 675 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,800 I've always been curious 676 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,680 about different ways of relationships. 677 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,120 I think a lot of people aren't even aware of the options. 678 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,320 This is an interesting time. 679 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040 It's kind of, like, a new sexual revolution 680 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,960 of people really figuring out what's going to make them happy 681 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,880 and seeing that there's different ways to do things. 682 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,320 And you don't have to sacrifice your happiness for someone else. 683 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,720 Looks like I've found an explorer 684 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,600 who's been on this relationship journey 685 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,280 for longer than me. 686 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,080 This one is a polyamorous group of people 687 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,320 hanging out together, casually, 688 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,000 and, like, nerd out about what it means to be poly... 689 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560 I love that nerding out about poly. That's interesting. 690 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,640 I don't now what the rules are. Are there rules? 691 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,640 There's no one way to do any of this. 692 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,040 Just like there's not one way to do monogamy. 693 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640 So, there's different types of polyamory. 694 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,320 For example, solo poly. 695 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,000 One person dating multiple people, but kind of no ties to each person. 696 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,800 There's kitchen table polyamory, 697 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,480 where there's maybe multiple people 698 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,120 who are with all other partners and get along harmoniously. 699 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,080 -Um... -Cool. 700 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,000 There's a V that's literally the like letter V. 701 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,520 So, there's one person dating two people. 702 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,120 There's endless different configurations. 703 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,920 To be polyamorous, do you have to relinquish jealousy completely? 704 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,720 Most polyamorous people would say that jealousy comes up for them. 705 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,280 Communication is so important. 706 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,000 Like, what is the reason why I feel jealous? 707 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,720 Like, something emotional happening, 708 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,320 I felt like you should have been checking in with me as we all as... 709 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,000 Sure, and that's the thing. In a harmonious poly relationship, 710 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,760 you would be figuring out how to thwart that 711 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,160 before it gets to that point of anger or resentment. 712 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,800 I love the constant communication. 713 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,720 Because of the relationships I've been in 714 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,720 I was very unable to express 715 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480 when I was hurt, when I wasn't treated well. 716 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,360 I'm now desperate to learn 717 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,200 about the highs and lows of polyamory 718 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,080 from people who live them. 719 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,920 What drew you to polyamory? What does it mean to you? 720 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,960 -What has it brought to your life? -It's just a way of being. 721 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,960 -It's my identity. -Yeah. 722 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,480 So, it's not taking anything away from any other person, 723 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,320 and it's just adding more. 724 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,200 Really gives you the opportunity to figure out 725 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,640 what works for you and your partner, or partners. 726 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,360 Just honesty. 727 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,840 Which might change and develop. 728 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,760 Doesn't need to be the same for everyone. 729 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,120 Unfortunately, it ruins almost every love story in most movies. 730 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,240 From our perspective, when somebody is like, "Oh, I love them and them." 731 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,160 We're always like, "Both!" 732 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,240 Love them all. Yes, be transparent. We'll be over it. 733 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,120 So, I'm married, and my discovery of polyamory 734 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,480 sort of coincided with meeting my wife. 735 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,280 I'd just gotten out of a relationship 736 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,120 where we tried to be just open. 737 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,040 I was in a relationship when I was asked to open it, 738 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,640 which I basically knew was the end of the relationship 739 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:32,080 because to me an open relationship didn't make sense. 740 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,720 But polyamory makes more sense. Why? 741 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,440 I would say that polyamory falls under the category 742 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,920 of a certain type of open relationship maybe? 743 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,960 But most people when they're asking for the open relationship, 744 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,240 they're asking to be open sexually and then to not have any feelings. 745 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200 -Which is... yes. -Which you can't really control. 746 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,720 In a lot of previous monogamous relationships, 747 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,480 I've felt... leashed, I've felt collared, 748 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680 and that makes me want to break out more. 749 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,440 Yes, feel trapped, 2so you want to be, 750 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,280 "Okay, I'm not a caged animal." 751 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,640 In this short moment, I can see how individual, how smart, 752 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:10,160 how emotionally developed all these things... 753 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,840 I can always, like, refrain myself sexually, 754 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,240 but emotionally I have connections with people. 755 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,920 And that was never okay. 756 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,960 Thank you. Each of you dropped something. 757 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,760 I was like, "Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, yay!" 758 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,600 I cannot even explain how much I learned 759 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560 in such a short amount of time. 760 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,440 I was always intrigued by polyamory, the idea. 761 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,040 I think it gets a bad rep. 762 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,120 People talk about it who don't understand it 763 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,560 in so many different ways. 764 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,320 And I still don't know. I can have solo polyamory... 765 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,480 Whatever I'm experiencing right now definitely leads more towards... 766 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:52,880 something that isn't conventional, for sure. 767 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,360 I still don't know what it is. 768 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,880 But I'm so much more excited to continue exploring 769 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,960 without feeling the unsureness or guilt or aloneness 770 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,760 that I guess I was before. 771 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,440 What I have learnt in this whole experience 772 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,080 is the dynamics and the beauty of so many different relationships. 773 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,760 No one can tell you how to live your relationship 774 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,240 or what the rules are. 775 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,280 I think there are no rules. 776 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,160 The way that we're moving into the future is so much more open 777 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,240 and able to let people be who they want 778 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,040 and love who they want and how they want. 779 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200 I don't know if I can be in love with multiple people, 780 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,080 but I love multiple people. 781 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,400 And I feel very lucky to be able to have that support and bond 782 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,280 with so many people. 783 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,920 But, in terms of love, the most important relationship 784 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,040 and the most important love you can have is for yourself. 785 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,920 There's no point being in a relationship 786 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,720 until you can fully love yourself 787 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200 because you can't truly love someone until you do. 788 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,440 So, while I spend my days figuring all this shit out, 789 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,560 there's only one special someone for me. 790 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,360 He is... yes, it is a he, 791 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,320 loyal, faithful, a perfect match. 792 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,360 And yes, just a little naughty. 793 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000 This is perfect puppy love. 794 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,920 Subtitles: Lea Espector plint.com 61166

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