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Okay. Ready?

-Yes?
-We are ready.

Nat, how do you feel?

I would like to know what is it
that brings you all to orgasm.

Well, then in that case,
play with my balls.

Lick them, suck them,
play with them.

That would help me. Orgasm, balls.

Good luck to everyone,
and let's have a great party.

The porn industry
is estimated to be worth

up to a whopping
$100 billion dollars a year,

with more web traffic

than Netflix, Amazon
and Hulu combined.

I'm about to dig
into the real impact of porn.

I know, some of it's gross.

Like, this is really mad.

And some of it downright nasty!

-Oh.
-This is horrible.

But is there an alternative?

Hi!

They're just hugging. It's great.

Is there such a thing as good porn?

Yeah, go, come, whoo!

Look, we can't show you
all the naughty bits,

but I guarantee
you're still in for a saucy time.

-Thank you so much!
-Thank you!

Porn.

All right, come on,
let's talk about porn.

So, what exactly is pornography?

Well, it's anything
with sexual content

designed to turn you on.

And today there is a lot of it.

Oh, okay.

Everyday there are
hundreds of millions of visits

to porn sites across the world.

With most people watching it
on their mobiles,

porn is now
more accessible than ever,

which means you can watch it
anywhere, anytime, all the time.

Guys... do you want some pizza?

But this frothy fantasy
of cheerleaders and pool boys

is a long way from the dark reality
of how porn makes me feel.

I started watching porn pretty young

and couldn't really come without it
for a long period of time.

And it wasn't until...

a couple of years ago

when I started trying
to masturbate without it

and it was hard.
Without a sex toy too.

Porn is quite intense,
and I think it can be quite scary

when it gives young people
a very skewed way

of how sex should be
and what intimacy should be.

I've seen a lot of porn

that taps into
our worst most basic instincts.

And banning it
won't make it go away.

It's really gross
'cause even after you watch it,

you're, like, "I feel disgusting."

So is porn inherently bad,
or is it possible to make good porn?

Barcelona, porn capital of Europe.

I've heard that amongst
the many porn producers here,

there's one fighting to change
the industry for the better.

And action!

Erika Lust creates films
that are radically different

to the free easily accessible stuff
you find on most porn websites.

She takes
a totally ethical approach.

There's a whole
indie movement, really.

Smaller production companies
of directors, producers, performers,

who are trying
to make a different kind of porn,

a porn that is respecting people.

-Plan B.
-So, we're on set, right?

So, in terms of the porn you make,
why did you end up doing that

and what was it
about mainstream porn

that is a problem?

It's the whole kind of system,
I think.

I think most of the people making it
are the same kind of men,

the kind of middle-aged,
white, cis, hetero guy,

and it's his version of porn
that we see.

And I'm so tired
of all this kind of videos

talking about banging,
smashing, needling.

-Pounding. Screwing.
-Punish...

When you watch women having sex
with these men or whatever,

you can tell they're not turned on.
It's crazy.

With mainstream porn today,
there's one big company.

They're based in Montreal, Canada.

They are the leader
in this industry.

They are what we could call
"Big Porn."

They are not interested
in human sexuality.

It's all about traffic,
nasty, dirty, ugly as possible

to earn money.

So I wanted to show you a few clips,

to look a little about, you know,
what's wrong with porn.

A few examples of online sites.
So, here what do we see?

We see two big men,
and we see a very young girl.

-She looks so young.
-If we read the tagline, it says,

"Tiny teen destroyed
by two giant black dudes."

And this is an example
of so many things that's wrong.

The racialisation
also of the characters,

and she obviously looks
much less than 18 years old.

-Like, this is really bad.
-It's really bad that it's accepted.

So gross!

Here's another really good example.

This is about "Lesbian beauty
tries her first cock and loves it."

And what is this about?
Well, this is about the idea

that no woman
could really be a lesbian

because most women,
if they just try cock,

that's what they want.

-You think she's really a lesbian?
-I don't think so.

So many of my straight girlfriends
watch lesbian porn.

That's their favourite one to watch
because it's safer, but I'm like,

"It's not really lesbians either.
It's not really anything."

And again, "Teen slut used
by the whole dorm."

Look at the language.

This is... There's no end to it.

And then I have an example
that you're not gonna like at all.

Deep fake. They put your face
on another person's body.

-Let's see if it...
-Oh!

This is horrible.

-Have you seen this?
-No, I haven't seen that.

That is honestly
very shocking to see.

One of the reasons why I'm doing it

is because I want
to change porn culture.

I've also seen how this independent
movement around porn

has grown since I started.

I never even considered or thought
there was female directors in porn.

Yeah, and you know what?
My audience.

Around 60% of the audience are men,

and I really believe
that if we want to change porn,

we can't continue
just accepting what's out there.

What I'm trying to do in my films

is to bring more women
into adult filmmaking

because that's the only way
we're going to be able

to see the perspective shift.

So for me the answer
is really, let's make better porn.

What she showed me
was... yeah, really horrifying.

I didn't understand the extent
of what we were discussing

in terms of what is there available
to people for free,

which makes me believe
in what she does even more so.

Don't normalise that thought.
It's not okay.

Erika's got me so fired up
about making better porn,

that I'm going to work with her

to turn my wildest fantasies
into a new film.

All's fair, I guess, on Planet Sex.

I was completely desensitised
by the porn I'd watched.

In my mind, the dangerous part,

it's a lot
of female objectification.

That's when it got dangerous for me,
but that's what excited me.

I speak to a lot of women,
and they have the same feeling.

And it's horrible. There's
so much shame involved in that.

You can't ever unsee
any of that stuff.

There's a lot of weird shit
in the world.

And lots of that extreme stuff
is found here, Japan.

Look, I love this country so much,

but when it comes
to erotic depictions of women,

oh, dear, it can be
pretty dark and degrading.

Akihabara shopping district

is the beating heart
of Japan's manga industry.

We're not allowed to film in here,

but I'm going to take a look,
buy some stuff,

and I'll see you in a minute.

I'm sensing two main themes here.

An obsession
with wildly oversized breasts

and the sexualisation
of school girls.

And both creep me out.

Whoa! Like, this image is crazy.

Oh, my God,
I've just realised what's happening.

There's a lot
of, like, come everywhere.

Like, why are her nipples
constantly squirting milk?

I hope they are drinking water
because there's so much fluid.

Oh, God!

Let's be real.

This is by straight men
for straight men.

But I've been told
there's an erotic manga subculture

that's way more appealing to women
and less degrading.

Boys Love or BL

is a work written for women

which depicts male-on-male
sexual love or strong bonds.

Stay with me here.

Yes, Boys Love
is gay sex between men,

but drawn by and aimed at women.

So, I was very fascinated

when I heard the opposite
of what the male comic books are,

was two gay men.

How is it so different in Boys Love?

The form of a boy is an ideal,

free from the constraints
of gender.

The boy represents
an alter ego for a girl.

They are both giving pleasure
at the same time.

You can be emotionally involved
in both of them at the same time.

It's very interesting
that mostly women like Boys Love.

Why do you think it's important
that women see men

in a portrayal
where they show emotions?

So, the sexual pleasure
in Boys Love

is similar to female pleasure.

But it is portrayed
as a man's feelings, in a male form.

I think that is why
it's so attractive.

There's not a lot of freedom,
especially for women.

By removing that restriction,
by having two men,

you can depict a love affair

between two people
who have removed their chains.

Women are so often depicted
as just taking it,

but in Boys Love,
the sex is between two people

who are passionate
about giving and receiving pleasure.

Obviously, BL
has a really positive influence.

Do you hope
it reaches a wider audience?

And what do you think
it teaches people?

BL culture is already spreading
around the world

and that leads to support

for real gay people.

In that sense,
Boys Love is very freeing.

It can shine a light
on relationships

we couldn't name before.

The thing that surprised me the most

is that I just didn't know
Boys Love existed,

in terms of a comic book
that's sexual

but about the emotions and feelings,

more like a kind of, like,
a romantic erotic novel, let's say.

And I kind of wish
there was a middle ground

that straight men could be into
that wasn't so sexual.

We can draw anime.

We need more stuff
like Japan's Boys Love comics.

Sexy stories that reflect

the full range
of human sexual experience,

not just what straight men want.

-Are we on now?
-We're on, ready to rock and roll.

I've had some hot ideas for a film,
and want to run them by Erika Lust.

What are you thinking about?
Your own stories, your fantasies?

The things
that I find extremely sexy

are the forbidden,
like English repression,

in terms of sexuality.

I remember watching The Crown
because I thought the Royal Family

and how repressed they were
was the hottest thing in the world.

I'm English. That shit is hot.

-Get me going.
-No, but...

It's something that people
are looking for more lately.

-The Bridgerton porn kind of style.
-See?

Okay, all the best.
I cannot wait to work with you.

It's going to be amazing.
Thank you so much.

I realise that not all porn
is problematic.

Erika's ethical feminist films
and Japan's Boys Love erotica

give me hope that there's
positive stuff out there too.

In fact, sometimes
it can even be kind of meaningful.

Should I have the glasses on or off?

I think off.

Deutschland mit Gandalf.

-Willkommen Berlin.
-Danke.

This not too shabby Trabi.

It's a beautiful car.

I mean, I love it.
It's... It's very cool.

Will be dropping me
at the Schwules, or gay, Museum.

It looks pretty ordinary,
but this place owns

the biggest gay porn stash
in all the land.

More than a million items.

Straight in at the deep end
with Peter Rehberg.

-Wow, his penis is very large.
-Yeah, big dicks.

Yeah, large penises.

I'm hot again. Whoo! Yeah.

Jokes aside,
Peter knows that porn matters.

To have queer sexuality
represented in porn

is important for queer people.

You have very little representation

of queer people in mainstream media
to begin with.

Porn is a very central moment
of gay culture

because through porn
you have access to a gay universe,

the sense of belonging.

So, here this
is the magazine section.

Playgirl, Playguy.

It's like an encyclopaedia
of everything.

And if we go over here,

we're approaching
the porn collection.

Whoa! Now we're talking.

As you can see, many VHS tapes.

Wow! The Pizza Boy Two.

Oh, my God,
there's a lot of dicks and arses.

-Not a lot of women back here.
-No, it's not.

The majority is gay male porn, yes.

Most of this is commercial porn
from the '80s and '90s,

an important era of gay porn,
you know, post Aids.

I never thought
how affirming it must be

to see your own gay sexuality
reflected back at you.

To Peter,
this stuff is real life history.

This is a Safer Sex porn film
produced in '89,

by a German director, Wieland Speck.

So, the idea here is that everybody
pretended there were no condoms,

you know, so you saw people kissing,
and then it came to the...

And, suddenly,
the guy had a condom on.

So he decided, "We try to promote
the use of condoms."

-Should we look at it?
-Yes.

Okay, let's move over.

So, here we go.

Look, it gives you instruction
of how to use a condom.

-"Gummi."
-It's a German word for rubber.

So the idea
is to make using a condom sexy.

Pornography has
an important educational value.

You, as a queer teenager,
if you watch porn,

no one is telling you
how queer sex works, right?

Finding out what your fantasies are.

What is happening here?
Why is he so bad at this?

-I don't know.
-Why is there so much...?

I've never seen that done before.

Oh, my God!

-That guy's thrilled.
-Yeah.

I think that the porn collection
is important

if you want to get

a comprehensive sense
of queer culture.

Let's just say there's
no queer culture without porn.

I love Peter.

I want to go to dinner with Peter
and talk about porn.

To be honest, I didn't realise
how little I knew about porn,

and especially not queer porn.

They are drag queens.
They are beating up the skinheads.

I've never done anything like this,
so it's been really amazing.

-I love Berlin!
-Yeah! That's a wrap for Berlin!

-Thank you!
-Love you, guys.

Porn is something that, you know,

should be able to be used,
but should be made

from different cultures
and different viewpoints,

and instead it's made
from this very dominant male

objectifying viewpoint,
in my mind, most of the time.

So I'd like to see more diversity
in the people that write the porn,

the people that direct the porn,
the people that are in the porn.

I just want it to be real.

The problem with mainstream porn
is that it's a million miles away

from most people's
real lived experiences of sex.

Yet, the stats tell us

we are all consuming
ever increasing quantities.

So is there something worse
happening here?

Is porn actually addictive?

I was always searching
for the perfect clip,

and that perfect clip
didn't seem to exist.

I'm in LA, trying to get centred
in the company of Erica Garza.

She's a former porn addict
with a hellish tale to tell.

So, when I was 12,

I was diagnosed with scoliosis,
and so I had to wear

this big clunky back brace
under my shirts.

And I became
really introverted and insecure,

hating my body,
and just really isolated

and filled with self-loathing
and self-hatred.

I found that if I masturbated,

I would get a break
from all of those bad feelings.

I would use porn
as an escape from that.

When did you realise
it was a problem?

I knew it was an addiction
because it was a compulsion

that I felt
like I had no control over.

Just trying to continue
that sense of gratification.

You know, get turned on,
find a sexual release

and then start all over again.

Yeah, there were things in there
you just said that, um...

yeah, I can definitely
identify with.

You don't really realise
what an escape it is.

How did you turn the corner?

What did you do
to find that freedom to change?

I had ruined another relationship.

And I saw my 30 years ahead of me,

and I thought,
"I want to make this decade better."

I saw it as a turning point for me.

I started doing lots of yoga,
I started meditating,

and just taking care of myself.

That was a huge part of my healing.

That's when I started
writing about it,

going to 12-step meetings
and starting to be open about this.

What a turnaround,
but what an amazing thing

to have accomplished,
especially being so brave

to be vulnerable about talking,

putting yourself
out there like that.

When you're dealing
with something like addiction

and when you keep
these things a secret,

it only intensifies the shame.

If you speak about these things

and you expose these secrets,
then you disempower them.

Yes.

Porn can definitely be an escape.

It's something
that you reach for to help you

and what you need or you rely on.
But the most interesting part is,

I very much related
to a lot of what she said,

the kind of porn she watched,

the relationships
getting in the way of,

the feeling alone,
the feeling isolated.

I related to all of it and was like,
"Wow, was I addicted to porn?"

I wouldn't watch it
everyday, for sure.

I wouldn't need
to have an orgasm everyday,

but I needed to watch it
to have one.

So, yeah, I mean, that's in its way
its own little addiction to porn.

Both Erica and I
have certainly fallen

under the spell of mainstream porn.

But is it a real addiction
in the same way

as, say, gambling or alcoholism?

Not everyone believes so,

but new research
is making scientists think again.

The University of California,
San Diego,

is the site
of some hardcore research

into our darkest desires.

This guy spends a lot of time

thinking about, writing about
and looking at porn.

To be fair,
at least he's got an excuse.

In my research, I try to understand

how the pornography
changes brain activity

and what we can do
to help people quit.

For him, there's one question
more important than any other,

"Can you really get addicted
to porn?"

For the majority of people,
pornography watching

is just an entertainment,
but the problem appears

when you cannot control
when do you watch,

how long do you watch
and when do you finish watching.

The average age of patients
we've seen in treatment

is around 27.

So usually they have been
watching pornography

already for about 15, 17 years
up to 15 hours a day.

Mateusz believes answers might lie
in the structure of our brains.

So he takes heavy porn users
and sticks them in a scanner.

In our studies, we are using FMRI,

which allows us
to compare the brains

of people who struggle
with problematic pornography use

with those who use porn,
but never experience any problems.

Mateusz has studied 450 brains,

and he's now finally got enough
to draw a conclusion.

So we find two main differences

between problematic
pornography users

and regular users.

One is related
to the reward circuit,

and it becomes super sensitive

for all the triggers
related to pornography watching.

The second one is related

to lower ability
to control your behaviour

and this is linked

to less grey matter volume
in the prefrontal cortex,

that's this part of the brain.

When we compare
problematic pornography users

with alcohol addicts and gamblers,

the little spots
in the prefrontal cortex

are the places where there is
less grey matter volume,

responsible for the controlling
of those cravings.

The scientists say
we should all have 40% grey matter,

but heavy porn users have less.

This is the information processing
all thinking part of our brain.

Less grey matter
is associated with addiction.

It's not just a matter
of your weak will.

Uh, this is a real issue.

There are real changes in your brain

and this is similar

to what we've already seen
in other addictions.

Problematic porn use
is now classified

by the World Health Organisation
as a clinical condition.

That means people
have better access to treatment,

like antidepressants
and psychotherapy.

It's very difficult to quit porn

once you develop
this pattern of problematic use,

but there's hope.

So what we see
in people who are in treatment

is that after a few months
of abstaining from porn,

those changes in the brain reverse.

This is a real change in the brain,
the restoration of normal function.

So, the good news
is that your brain can bounce back.

I'm back in horny porny
Spainy Barcelona.

-I love those ideas.
-I know.

I'm pitching my sexily ethical ideas
to Erika Lust.

Don't worry monarchy fans.

Getting down with the Crown is out,

but shagadelica is in.

The thing about my fantasies

is that I feel like exploring
time periods and group sex.

I've always been obsessed
with the '60s and '70s.

The way everything looked,
but also the sexual revolution.

How everyone was so open and free,
and it's an exciting time for that.

You know 1969 swingers,
body sex, that kind of thing.

Group sex, voyeurism, exhibitionism.

Just, yeah,
good old-fashioned love-making.

So you're thinking
like a sex party kind of thing?

-Okay. Like a big orgy?
-Yes, an orgy.

And we should find some good music
to get that kind of ambience.

-Is it a female or mixed?
-I think everyone.

The idea of taking it outside

the conventional standard
of what sex is, right?

And then, of course,
we want to represent diversity.

-Yes.
-We want different kinds of people.

-Yes.
-Yeah.

But is there something
that you find as a turn on?

-I just want it to be good.
-Yeah, well.

-You put us up with a challenge.
-I'm excited.

-Okay, we're making it.
-Yay!

-Go.
-Okay, bye.

What kind of porn
do you wish there was more of?

For me, I think
that porn is really lacking

in the female voice

or at least... different voices,
different points of view.

So much porn, but so much of it
is on the same narrative.

Even the lesbian porn that's made,

it's clearly directed
by a man for men.

It's very confusing.

You know, now if I watch porn,
which I very rarely do,

I would rather watch amateur porn
and real people having sex

than the porn made at the moment.

You really want to see
real pleasure and real intimacy.

Otherwise, it's just this kind
of very staged contrived version

of what love or intimacy
should look like.

Manhattan... home
to another pioneering woman

offering an alternative
to the mainstream porn industry,

swapping all the dodgy stuff...

You had them in your hand!

...to focus on what's really...

Oh, my God, no. Oh, my God!

...well, real.

Real world sex
is way more innovative,

way more surprising
and way more arousing

than porn will ever be.

This is love, real sexy love.

MakeLoveNotPorn
is a subscription video platform

launched by the entrepreneur
Cindy Gallop.

We exist to reflect

the full glorious spectrum
of human sexuality.

I am obsessed with where you live.

Okay, cool, we have to concentrate.
Down to business, though.

Can you just give me a little taste
of what MakeLoveNotPorn is?

We are the world's first and only,

user-generated, human-curated,
social sex video showing platform.

Real world sex
is enormously reassuring.

We celebrate real world everything.

Real world bodies,

real world penis size,
real world vulvas.

Bloody love this woman!

If porn is the Hollywood
blockbuster movie,

MakeLoveNotPorn
is the real world documentary.

Can you just tell everyone
how you started?

Basically, MakeLoveNotPorn

came about
because I date younger men

casually recreationally for sex.

And I'm deliberately very vocal
about all of that

because I realised
I was experiencing what happens

when today's total freedom of access
to hardcore porn online

meets our society's
equally total reluctance

to talk openly and honestly
about sex.

When those two things converge,

porn becomes sex education
by default, in not a good way.

So I found myself encountering

a number
of sexual behaviours in bed,

and went, "Whoa!
I know where that's coming from."

I thought, "Gosh,
if I'm experiencing this,

other people must be as well."

And I realised I'd uncovered
a huge global social issue.

So, this video is

by MakeLoveNotPornstar
Goddess Erica,

and this video
is them tantric kissing.

-So I'll sign it over.
-That's fantastic.

So sweet.

It's also just very soothing
to watch.

You know, it's...

They're just hugging. It's great.

We get really excited

when we can expand
the definition of real world sex

on MakeLoveNotPorn.

So tantric kissing was something
we hadn't had until this video,

which was really exciting.

This isn't making me horny.

Even though
it's not, not making me horny,

it's making me
more horny for intimacy.

-Yeah, exactly.
-You know, like, craving

to be touched or held
or... caressed.

Yeah.

There's so many of my friends
who are like,

"But there's not dick involved.
There's no real penetration."

It's just so backwards
about what people believe.

Cindy's platform
is ethical, real and raunchy.

But here's the tricky bit.
You've got to pay for it.

And a lot of people
want to get their kicks for free,

which means they're going
to turn to the usual,

maybe less than ethical suspects
for their porn.

So what to do?

Justine Ang Fonte has a tough job.

She teaches Porn Literacy
to young people.

In a nutshell, how to think
critically about mainstream porn

that requires one or two clicks
and no subscriptions.

As a health educator
working in a school setting,

we're seeing young people
being exposed to pornography

as young as eight years old.

So, Cara, what was
your first experience with porn?

You know, for me, it was, like,

I'm a little kid who's already done,
feeling they belong.

I didn't know whether I was queer
or gender fluid, I didn't know.

So the whole thing was confusing.

I've been teaching
pornography literacy for nine years.

It's a lot about safety.

It's about looking
at what they might be seeing

is not accurate.

This is an entertainment industry

and not something that is meant
to define me or explain who I am.

I started watching porn
when I was really young.

That's how I was introduced to sex.

-Yeah. How old?
-Around 11 or 12.

It definitely made me feel
like I have to be thin

and have big boobs
and be shaved, like, everywhere.

I was, like, 14 or so.

I know I'm gay, and...

Okay, lesbian porn,
and that was a mistake.

It didn't have
a kind of sense of pleasure

for anyone who didn't have a dick.

I didn't like lesbian porn.

When I look at a woman like that,
that's not what I was either.

Teaching pornography literacy
in schools,

do you all even think
it should be in schools?

-Everyone has Sex Ed?
-No.

-Every school doesn't do Sex Ed?
-No.

Even schools
that are teaching this

are not necessarily
bringing up pornography.

They're talking about how to prevent
getting pregnant,

how to not contract an infection.

A lot of my students
are using mainstream pornography

as the main instruction manual
that is normalising

the lack of consent,
the lack of intimacy.

So that's extremely destructive.

I think porn was created

to be a wildly inaccurate fantasy
of our sexuality,

and we are meant
to consume it as such.

Honestly, it is wild
we are not teaching Sex Ed

in so many American schools.

Let alone Porn Literacy.

We need to help
young people understand

that this shit is not real.

I think a lot of teenage boys think
they'll be a pizza delivery boy

and they'll just go
to a house one day,

and then a girl
will... them randomly.

That's just not going to happen.
I can't say... Shit...

Porn has definitely skewed
all of our visions of what sex is,

but especially for poor young boys
that don't know.

And their parents and their teachers
won't speak to them about sex.

That's all they know.

I think the whole porn industry
needs to just take a step up

and go up a level
because porn should be educational.

And at the moment
it's just educating people

in the exact opposite way.

It's just now becoming something
that is a dangerous thing

that we can't stop kids
from watching,

and it's changing
how the world looks at sex.

Porn shoot scene, part four.

Ready?

What are we doing today?

We are on the way,
back in Barcelona,

to watch Erika direct the porn film

that's loosely based
on my fantasies.

So I'm very excited.

A little bit nervous.

When you were thinking
about the kind of the '60s and...

was it something like this
you had imagined?

No, the details are wonderful.
From my wildest dreams.

-It is really pretty. I love it.
-What are you doing right now?

Well, I'm preparing next

to where we actually get to know
the performers.

Now I know that Erika's films

are all about inclusivity,
respect, consensual sex, etc.

But this next bit,
I honestly could not have imagined.

A consent chat
with the cast that's on camera.

An actual part of the film.

Done, okay. And action!

This is a talk
about your personal sex boundaries.

Visha, what do you think?

My back is actually
quite a sensitive space,

but, like, impact play
is actually fine.

I'm truly into giving,

so, like, blow jobs, rimming,
but I'm also open to receiving.

Other than that, like, I'm easy.

Great, thank you.
Nat, how do you feel?

I would be happy
to receive everything

besides no spit on the face.

-Oh, yeah.
-Right?

I'm pretty easy
with almost everything

minus anal sex
and playing with my nipples.

They are too sensitive to the touch.

And I also would like to know

what is it
that brings you all to orgasm?

Okay, well, then in that case,
play with my balls.

Lick them, suck them,
play with them.

-That will help me.
-Gotcha.

Orgasm, balls.

If you feel that something
is not going the way you want,

please, communicate it.

Well, good luck to everyone
and let's have a great party.

Thank you and cut!

When they were having
the kind of HR consent chat,

I assumed it
to be a very boring talk

about what's going to happen on set

and, like, the way people
speak to each other.

But it comes from a place

of more like what each person's
preferences are,

what their limits are,
what makes them reach an orgasm,

what makes them comfortable
or uncomfortable.

It's very nice, especially hear
them talking about it in that way.

It made me very happy.

I love this because this goes
with this one and with your hair,

and it kind of makes
the whole statement, I think.

-James Bond.
-James Bond. My Bond girl.

I want to talk to the performers

about how Erika's gigs
compare to the mainstream stuff.

-Exactly.
-Does it make a difference if...?

You're less nervous
if you talk about this stuff before?

Yeah, I find it easier

when I know what are people's
boundaries and preferences.

When you work
with mainstream producers,

first of all, well,
it's super different.

You have the sex scripted,

so you know the positions
you are going to do and everything.

-Oh, no.
-Yeah. They want 5 minutes of this,

5 minutes of this,
5 minutes of this.

-Oh, my God, it's so specific.
-Yeah, it's disgusting, yeah.

With this type of company,

it's, like, sure that everyone
knows what's happening.

-Here.
-We're almost ready now.

Tassels twirl. Cocktails swirl.

Sex party porno time
is about to begin.

I'm fascinated
to see how this'll work

because I just don't really know.

And you just dive
in the deep end, I guess.

We need to see
the nipple tassels move.

Yeah, after filming sex personally,

there's never...
all angles of sex aren't good.

-Right?
-Not all, not so good.

-They're not.
-Not everything is gorgeous.

No, not everything is stunning,
I'm just saying.

Do you give directions
when they're having sex?

No, not that much.
I give directions before.

We're gonna talk about the light
and the best angles and places.

But then, when we start,
we let it kind of run.

That's amazing.

Just the average
general conversations

are about don't squirt
on the sofa or...

Okay, let's do it!

Music, dancing, action.

Good! Yes!

Sexy!

Yes.

That looks great.

What I'm trying to do in my films
is really showing how women

are active working
for their own pleasure,

communicating with their partners,

talking about consent

and how they are having pleasure
ultimately together.

Telling them not to have sex
as porn performers,

but to have sex
in a more normal way.

-That is a wrap! We have a wrap!
-Whoo!

So ends my time
with Lady Lust and team.

Always good to go out with a bang.

Thank you!

-It wasn't that strange, was it?
-Not at all.

Sex is way more scary.

Visha! Let's do a selfie.

-Hello, darling.
-All right, love.

There's just such a world
of difference

between the films
that Erika produces

and the worst kinds
of mainstream porn.

There's boundaries,
respect and care.

No one's exploited,
and everyone's included.

I came in kind of, like,
"Why would you pay for porn?"

You pay for an experience.
You pay for the safety of others.

It was just thoroughly enjoyable
because they got comfortable.

You could see them
enjoying themselves.

And that's what you pay for.
You pay for the realness.

But you also know
that they're gonna be treated right,

and that's important
'cause you get attached to them all.

I was like, "Yeah, go, come, whoo!"

I don't know, it was amazing.
I'm like, "Girl, you get it!"

I want to high five all of them.
It was wonderful.

I think that the best thing
that people could really do

is to pay for their porn

and support creators and performers.

That's how you make a difference
in the world.

Not all porn is the same.

I was just very happy to see sex

being represented in a way
that I knew it was in real life.

If I had seen that kind of porn
when I was a teenager or kid,

I would've felt more respected

and asked for
what I wanted as a woman more.

The first time I asked a man
for what I wanted in bed

was this year, and I'm 29 years old.
Like, that's insane.

Porn is problematic,
but it's not the problem.

Instead of blaming porn,
which is what we're doing,

we're not taking porn
and changing the narrative.

There is a healthy way
that porn can be made and watched,

ranging from, like, amateur porn,
Cindy Gallop, MakeLoveNotPorn,

or Erika Lust, an ethical feminist,
but more equality type porn.

But the problem is, we're shoved
so much of this tube porn

and the quantity of it
down our throats,

you can't see anything else.

But there is so much more
out there to explore.

Like sexuality, you should explore
porn just the same.

-That's a banger!
-That's a banger!

Subtitles: Lea Espector
plint.com