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My name is Cara.
Do I have to say my whole name?
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No. Be ridiculous.
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Model, check. Activist/actor, check.
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Privileged western white woman,
check, check, check.
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That's a lot of labels.
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But sexual identity...
well, like loads of us,
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I'm still working all that out.
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I date men, but, oh, do I love women
and everyone in between.
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I was born female,
but often feel like a guy.
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-Wow.
-Wow.
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My sex life, my gender...
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I'm just living off
this queer energy.
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...my relationships.
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A pussy sandwich.
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All a bit of a hot mess.
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This is the first time I've spoken
like this ever in my life.
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So sexy queer-tastic people
of the world...
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-My vagina.
-That's your vagina!
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...I'm coming to get ya.
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-And I want answers.
-Very quickly.
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Like, how many sexual identities
are there?
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Yay!
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Is monogamy dead?
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He's definitely not faithful.
Look at that guy.
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What makes us hot... or not?
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Stunning!
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And how can we pleasure seekers
get our hands on more orgasms?
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Start masturbating now.
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The most important thing about life
is connections with other humans.
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Is that not the point
of being alive?
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A land of clits.
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We don't talk enough
about how we can help each other.
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Most people won't have ever had
these conversations.
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So let's talk about it.
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Oh, hello!
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Yes, just casually judging
a queer twerking competition.
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In the absolute
effing hottest place on Earth
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and having a jolly good time,
thank you very much.
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Nice crowd.
Loving the crowd's vibe today!
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Why am I here?
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Well, there's so much
to know about the world of sex,
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but I want to start
with sexual orientation.
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We love lesbians!
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Where does it come from?
Is it fixed or fluid?
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I want to meet people
who live openly and authentically,
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to unlearn the shame
I've struggled with for years
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and accept my identity.
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Hold on, it's going to be
a bumpy queer ride folks.
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We're just gonna talk
about being gay.
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Go gay. Queers here.
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-Cara Dele-queer.
-Yes.
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Serious.
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How would I define
my sexual identity?
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I'm a Q for sure, I don't know.
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I always have kind of believed
in the no labels thing,
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but have spent
a lot of time then saying,
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"I'm bisexual. I'm pansexual."
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I am queer.
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I'm a hundred percent can tell you
that I'm queer.
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I just don't know
what else I can say other than that.
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What do you think you'll discover
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in this amazing journey we are on
about your sexualities?
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Even though I've been queer,
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I haven't really been able
to live a queer life.
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You know, the internalised shame
or the kind of homophobia
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is slightly there still.
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When you are in this job
or when you are famous,
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or something,
it stunts a lot of things,
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and, like, I didn't really develop
my queerness.
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So I think
I'm just coming to it all very late.
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Does that make sense? Cool.
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I don't know where I expected
this journey to begin,
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but it wasn't slap bang
in the middle of the desert.
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What do I know about Palm Springs?
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It's hot. It's a desert.
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This is a place
where old people go to die.
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Joking. That's a joke.
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It's hot. It's so hot.
Why do people come here?
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It's so hot!
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Well, apparently, if you're LGBTQ+,
this is the place for us.
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Once a desert hangout
for the 1960's Hollywood Rat Pack,
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Palm Springs is now one
of the queerest towns in America
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and was the first
to have an all LGBTQ+ council.
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So it's a good place
to dip my toe in the water,
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at the mother
of all queer women events.
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-I'm checking in, please.
-Yeah, of course.
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Delevingne. D-E-L-E... V-I-N-G-N-E.
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It's hard to spell.
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Yes, it's true.
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I've still never been
to Pride or anything like that,
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so this will be
my very first proper queer day out.
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Sheesh.
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So, do you come here often?
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So scared. Scared.
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-Where are you going?
-Where am I going?
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-Am I meant to go this way?
-I'm a Cancer.
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-I like long walks on the beach.
-So do I.
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Okay, deep breath.
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You guys are,
like, the least subtle posse ever.
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Like this is not it. Yeah.
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I don't really know what to expect.
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Go round. A board.
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But how intense could it be?
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Are we gonna go in, though?
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This is the Dinah Shore Weekend,
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the biggest lesbian pool party
in the world.
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15,000 women,
trans and non-binary folk
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out here in the desert.
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You're coming in and you just see
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an ocean of women and titties
and glitter and pasties.
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A lot of dancing, a lot of twerking,
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a lot of making out,
a lot of happy times.
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Different body types.
Different ethnicities. I love it.
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It's like Disneyland for lesbians.
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It's clear I won't survive
unless I find friends ASAP.
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Luckily, I got me some neighbours,
Kimber and Lilly, to hold my hand.
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-All right, Dinah on three.
-One, two, three! Dinah!
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Oh, my God.
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That was the gayest thing
I've ever done.
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Really? I don't believe you.
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-Let's go!
-Welcome to Dinah Shore.
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Soak it in.
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And then a twerking contest.
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Yeah!
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Nice crowd.
Loving the crowd's vibe today!
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Look, the whole thing
was face-meltingly loud,
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so you'll have to read the next bit.
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-This makes me emotional so much.
-Why?
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I have never been
to anything like this.
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Just here's, like, hot
and amazing and fun.
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And, like, just like...
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There's nothing hotter
than people living their best life.
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But being here with this gorgeous,
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colourful smorgasbord
of queer people
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has been intense.
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What just happened?
What didn't happen?
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I don't know, I think...
I guess... I.. I don't know.
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I'm out and I'm proud,
you know, to a certain extent.
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But in my own life,
I didn't really find a community.
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I didn't really speak, like,
experience these sort of things.
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I did it in the public eye,
which again allowed myself to be...
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pointed fingers at,
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or feel more of the hate
than I guess the love.
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So it's a lot.
It's just a beautiful place.
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Obviously, when you look
at the footage,
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it's arses and everyone dancing
and having the best time,
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but for me it feels
so much more than that,
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'cause it's just so much love
and that, you know.
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Oh, God, this is the journey.
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This is the discovery of...
I don't know, yeah.
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Like, I feel... This is...
Like, I'm feeling things.
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I don't usually do that.
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I didn't realise until now
how reassuring it is
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to be with people
who share the same feelings as me.
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I've been living in my own world,
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when there's this whole big
LGBTQ+ wonderland out there.
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In today's queer kaleidoscope,
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there are a lot of ways
to define yourself.
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Bears have a flag. I love that.
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And dozens of different types
of sexual orientation.
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So chic, darling.
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Don't know the difference
between your As and bis and pans?
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Don't worry, I'll call a doctor.
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Dr Ronx is an ER medic,
queer activist and educator.
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They'll help me
straighten it all out.
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Well, not straight-straighten.
Look, you know what I mean.
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I love your trainers, babe.
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Just to be clear,
gender is how you feel inside.
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Sexual orientation,
that's who you fancy... or not.
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Okay, let's go!
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"Lesbian."
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A lesbian is a woman
who is attracted to another woman.
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-"Gay."
-A term men use
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to say that they are attracted
to other men.
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It's also an umbrella term
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for anybody
that is not heterosexual.
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-"Bisexual."
-Bisexual people
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-fancy men and women.
-"Pansexual."
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People who are attracted
to other people,
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regardless of their gender identity.
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-"Asexual."
-People
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who are not sexually attracted
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-to other individuals.
-"Queer."
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Everybody under the LGBTQI umbrella,
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but not everybody
identifies as queer.
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We've evolved and so has our flag,
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from a simple rainbow
to a cornucopia of colours.
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Now called the Progress Flag.
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It symbolises where as a society
we aim to progress to,
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encompassing the whole spectrum
of sexual and gender identities.
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I love that there's
so many more types of sexuality
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being recognised than ever before,
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and more openly queer people
on the planet.
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36% of Gen Z say they feel
some level of same sex attraction,
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twice as many
as their grandparents' generation.
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What's driving this big queer leap?
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I think it's because
so many more of us
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are unlearning the shame
and standing up to be counted.
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Here's what I love about Tokyo.
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A busy modern city
and yet bang in the middle of it,
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ancient traditional scenes
like this.
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And this the ceremony hall.
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Kodo Nishimura is the master
of this Buddhist temple.
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-It's like a wedding ceremony.
-I know, look.
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I feel like we could be married.
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We have shared beliefs.
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He grew up
right here in this temple.
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But even as a child, Kodo
felt different from the other kids.
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I noticed that I shouldn't talk
about my interest in boys publicly,
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and I felt like a perverted person.
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I was constantly feeling
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like there was a huge black cloud
above my head.
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Back then, gay people
couldn't live as openly in Japan.
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Kodo needed to find a place
that accepted who he was.
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Moving to the US
was such a liberation for me.
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I was learning about the history
of LGBTQ community,
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how people in the past
have vote for our rights.
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So if I can bring that to Japan,
I felt that would be cool.
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Kodo returned to Tokyo in 2013
to champion gay rights,
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and discovered to his surprise
the old family business of Buddhism
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had been ready
to welcome him in all along.
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What I later found out,
Buddhism is very embracing.
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It says the mercy of Buddha
is just like the moonlight.
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Anybody who looks up to the moon
can appreciate the beauty.
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We can prioritise our uniquenesses
and shine in our own colour.
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-Here you go.
-Oh, my gosh!
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-Wonderful style of shirts.
-Do you want to open these too?
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Oh, my gosh,
she loves the jewellery!
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I think the courage to speak up
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is actually cooler
than pretending to be perfect.
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-Yes, I completely agree with you.
-So... Yeah.
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-So...
-High five to that.
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So, now I'm gonna transform and...
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Transform away. I will leave you.
I will love you and leave you.
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Okay, cool.
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Today Kodo is a celebrity
in his homeland
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and not just as a Buddhist monk,
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but something totally extra.
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For his powers of glam
as a makeup artist.
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I can approach people's hearts
with Buddhist teachings,
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and I can also approach
their outer attributes using makeup.
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They both help people
to gain confidence or balance.
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Yes, gorgina.
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-Oh, my God, you look amazing.
-Thank you.
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One foot in fashion
and one foot in ancient tradition.
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And, for Kodo, it works.
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What would you like for the future
and for the future of Japan?
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If I can inspire
leaders of the world,
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also religious leaders,
to lift laws against LGBTQ people,
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that would be wonderful,
because we have to be safe to be us.
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And we're not going anywhere.
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Society grows naturally like a tree.
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So if you just keep watering,
it's gonna grow, and I have hope
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that all communities
can learn diversity
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and celebrate its beauty.
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What an incredibly strong
but also wise person he is.
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No matter how much
the traditional side
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has probably stopped him
from wanting to be the certain way,
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his heart and his light
shone through.
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And I really...
I've just learnt a lot from him.
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It made me very emotional.
It made me just so proud.
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Being happy in yourself
within yourself
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gives you the resources
to be able to help other people,
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and that's what is most important
in the world.
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There are just little glimpses
into people
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who are really brilliant
and radical and rebels,
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and it's a beautiful thing.
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Radicals and rebels
made same sex relationships legal
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in my home country 50 years ago.
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But growing up, the messaging
from the people around me
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could still be heard loud and clear.
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I couldn't talk to anyone about it,
and I definitely had
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a lot of, like, internalised
homophobia and shame.
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I thought that I was, like, abnormal
and I... that I wasn't right.
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Everyone else
was right and I was wrong,
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'cause I wasn't like everyone else.
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I thought about ending my life.
Like, I had, like, multiple times.
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And, like, I'm so glad I didn't
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because if I can help any other kid,
that means the world to me,
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that means the world
to that little queer kid
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that I was or am.
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The thing is, I've always wondered
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why I feel so much shame
about my sexuality.
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Because, honestly, people,
this stuff is not new.
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Since humans have walked the Earth,
there have been queer folk.
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From famous gays like Ancient Greek
Alexander the Great
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to Aztec god
of homosexuality, Xōchipilli.
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Through plenty of British kings,
who are apparently queens.
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Two Williams, two Richards,
an Edward, a James,
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and, of course, Queen Anne.
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Same sex attraction has been around
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for a long time
and in a lot of places.
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So what shapes
our sexual orientation?
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Is it nature or is it nurture?
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Is it something that happened to me
growing up, or was I born this way?
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Well, there are
plenty of ideas flying around,
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but one person who studies this area
is Dr Gerulf Rieger.
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He believes
answers lie in our biology.
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Think about it like this.
The majority of us are straight.
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We need our sexual orientation
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to create babies
and continue to thrive as a species.
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So the idea
that the social environment
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has such profound influences
on something so important to us
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just doesn't make any sense.
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Everything from overbearing mothers,
boarding schools,
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being in the Navy
and having older sisters
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has been blamed
for turning people gay.
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But if society really makes you gay,
wouldn't there be a load more of us?
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Gerulf thinks our sexual orientation
is set much earlier,
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before we're even born, in fact.
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-Hello. How's everybody doing today?
-Good, thank you.
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Let's get one thing straight.
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There's no one factor
that makes us gay,
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just a big biological
cocktail of bits
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that shape whether you swing
this way, that way, or another way.
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First up, there are
numerous genes involved.
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Recently we've had complex work done
on the human genome
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that suggests
that there are several genes
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that could influence
a homosexual orientation.
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There's not just one.
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Hormones matter too.
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Our number one educated guess is,
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it's the level of testosterone
that we're exposed to or react to
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as an unborn child.
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Let's say a baby girl
that was exposed
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to unusually high levels
of testosterone
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is more likely to become homosexual.
328
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Okay, and do you want
to know the baby's gender?
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-Yes, please.
-Okay.
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-Well, it's definitely a girl.
-Perfect.
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Then it gets even weirder.
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Another theory
is mothers produce antibodies
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in response to male babies.
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Maybe we should call them
"mantibodies."
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When the mother is pregnant
for the first time with a son,
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she actually gets exposed
to male typical proteins,
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which is something
that her own body isn't used to.
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These antibodies
stay in the mother's system.
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Then they can affect
the development of the second son
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and could therefore disrupt
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the regular development
of his sexual orientation.
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This suggests the greater number
of older brothers you have,
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the more likely you are to be gay,
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only by a few percent,
345
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but it's still a vital clue
in this big queer puzzle.
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So what does this all add up to?
347
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Well, with so many factors
involved in our sexual orientation,
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it's no wonder
there's so much diversity
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and so many shades of gay.
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When it comes to the question
of how innate
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is somebody's sexual orientation,
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my educated guess
is probably a hundred percent.
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It's something that really comes
from within the person.
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What exactly are the ingredients,
that's the million dollar question.
355
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You're born this way.
I'm born this way.
356
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So you can pack that judginess away,
thank you very much.
357
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It's not a choice,
which is a relief, to be honest.
358
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And it's nothing me,
other queer folk
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or our parents did wrong.
360
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All right, okay, but next question.
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Is our sexuality fixed from birth,
362
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or is it something that evolves
and changes throughout life?
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I still am of the belief
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that sexuality
is definitely a spectrum,
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and I feel like mine wavers.
366
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But also I'm probably definitely
more on the side of women.
367
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But I like having sex with men.
I just don't date them.
368
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I might, though. You never know.
369
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But, again, I think it's a beautiful
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unwavering wavering beautiful boo.
371
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But if biologically speaking
there are so many shades of gay,
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how do I know for sure
which one I am?
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And what about
my fluctuating sexual fluidity?
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Is it my mind choosing
who I want to have sex with
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or who my body reacts to?
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Sexologist Dr Marieke Dewitte
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00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,680
is an expert
on what turns us on. Meow.
378
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,920
-Are you Flemish? I'm Flemish.
-I'm Flemish.
379
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,200
-Fellow Flem.
-Yeah.
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So I signed up to her sex lab
to watch a lot of porn,
381
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all in the name of science.
382
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,400
Who wouldn't be excited by watching
a whole lot of porn today?
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Come in and welcome to our sex lab.
384
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,160
As you can see, we try to create
kind of a living room effect,
385
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a little bit more cosy.
386
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,560
So, we are going to present
several video clips.
387
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,360
You know what I thought about?
My parents watching this.
388
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,640
Well, maybe you should have thought
about that before.
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Try to ignore it. The main thing
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00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,680
is actually what you need to do,
is just sit, relax
391
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and try not to touch yourself
and sit still.
392
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,480
Try not to? I can contain myself.
393
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,480
Try not to touch yourself
and just watch the screen, yeah?
394
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800
-Okay, perfect.
-Have fun, Cara.
395
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,640
-I will. I will try. Fuck.
-Yeah, definitely.
396
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,640
I'm sorry, this is what?
And it goes where?
397
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,560
When you get sexually aroused,
398
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280
more blood is being pumped
into your vagina,
399
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,040
and, therefore, the colour
of your vagina wall changes.
400
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And this device
401
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measures the amount of blood
in your vagina cavity.
402
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,800
-Can I ask a question?
-Sure.
403
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840
Can you read my mind
through my vagina?
404
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,880
-No.
-It's going in now.
405
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,960
Right. Jesus!
406
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,760
-Can you guys see that it's in?
-I can see your signal.
407
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Oh, my God! My signal?
What the fuck is happening?
408
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,920
I can see your vagina pulse, yes.
409
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Great. I love that for us.
410
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720
Okay, try not to think
about my parents
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or about the camera
12 inches from my face.
412
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My frankly ridiculous task
is to watch different kinds of porn,
413
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,120
while Marieke's vag monitor
records how aroused I am down below,
414
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,520
and I yank a lever
415
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to rate how turned on I feel
up above in my mind.
416
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,240
Okay, fire it up.
First, two guys shagging each other.
417
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,040
Like, I can feel my breath
shortening or whatever crap.
418
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,200
We can see
there's something happening.
419
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Then lesbian sex.
420
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,880
Yeah, okay.
421
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,720
My body feels
that shivering feeling again.
422
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,640
Great. Weird. This is strange.
423
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,760
Just had a real big influx
of horniness
424
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,960
and then a real big influx of shame.
425
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,680
How bad is that still? Why?
426
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Straight sex.
427
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,080
He's not very good at this.
428
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,880
There's men masturbating.
429
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,200
I'm less horny than I thought I was.
430
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Oh, Lord.
431
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,200
Women masturbating.
432
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,120
That just seems uncomfortable.
So fake nails, bro.
433
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,080
You're gonna say something
different, aren't you, vagina?
434
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Then a surprise little bonus clip
of some hairy monkey sex.
435
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,920
Okay, this is properly weird now.
436
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,560
Oh, my God, what's it doing?
437
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680
It's called oral sex.
438
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280
This is wild. Literally.
439
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040
An hour later, thank God,
that's it, I'm done.
440
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,360
I don't even know
how to feel anymore.
441
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,080
-So there she is. How was it?
-Do I look traumatised?
442
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,880
Not at all.
Did you find it traumatising?
443
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,400
No. Maybe.
444
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,120
But what the F does this all mean
when it comes to sexual orientation?
445
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,680
What did you see?
446
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,360
We could clearly see that your body
447
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080
automatically reacted
to a sexual stimulus.
448
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,200
So the moment
there was something sexual,
449
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,760
you had this automatic
genital arousal response,
450
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because your body, your brain,
recognises this as sexual,
451
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240
you've learned this is sexual,
so you react.
452
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,600
So it sounds like my genitals
453
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000
find everything,
human and animal, sexy.
454
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,680
But is this to be expected?
455
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,680
Your response actually matched
456
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,120
with what we saw
in previous research,
457
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,080
that the genital arousal response
of women
458
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is rather non specific.
459
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,720
It kind of shows that for women
it's sexual activity that matters.
460
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,160
It says nothing about
your sexual orientation or identity.
461
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960
'Cause matters of the genitals
are not matters of the heart.
462
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,120
So sometimes women
who don't identify as being lesbian,
463
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,680
they get turned on by the women,
464
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,680
and it's like,
"Oh, my God, is this...?"
465
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,120
They get confused.
466
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,400
But it's just this diversity of...
467
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,920
Yeah, women get aroused
by different stimuli.
468
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,880
Phew, so this isn't
some secret lust for monkeys.
469
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,080
It's a primal bodily response
to sexual stuff,
470
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,040
one shared by females.
471
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:20,240
But what was my mind saying
about all of this?
472
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,840
Your reactive sexual arousal
clearly differed
473
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,360
depending on the type of porn
you were watching.
474
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,160
And what we saw in your pattern,
475
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,400
it seems that, especially
the lesbian porn in specific,
476
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760
really turned you on
in terms of reactive arousal.
477
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,640
Does it match
your sexual orientation?
478
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,800
-For sure.
-Do you feel attracted to women?
479
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,040
So generally I think women
are my preferred gender, I suppose.
480
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,640
How you feel, the mental component,
481
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,680
we see that in women,
it's more specific,
482
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,440
that what really turns you on
483
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,600
is kind of a little bit more tied
to what you also prefer.
484
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,120
My mind is much more in sync
with my own sexual orientation.
485
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,040
For males, though,
it's a different story.
486
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Their bodies react only to the stuff
that turns on their minds.
487
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,160
Men actually only respond to stimuli
that match their sexual orientation,
488
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,480
but in women
there's much more fluidity
489
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
and erotic plasticity,
as we call it.
490
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440
Women's sexuality
can change throughout life,
491
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,400
and they're much more diverse.
492
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080
So both our bodies and minds
493
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,520
feed into this thing
we call sexual orientation.
494
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,800
And women are
more fluid and varied than men.
495
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760
But, crucially,
none of it is a choice.
496
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,720
I think it's also asking yourself,
or thinking,
497
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,840
"However you're feeling
is not natural."
498
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000
But it is natural
because it's happening.
499
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,320
That's always what I would think,
growing up with a lot of shame,
500
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,080
is thinking, "This isn't normal.
this isn't human."
501
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600
-But it's, like, it is.
-Yeah. I mean...
502
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Yeah, that's the sticky bit,
the shame.
503
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,040
The pressure from society
and the world around me growing up
504
00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:00,400
doesn't have the slightest impact
on our innate sexual orientation,
505
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,880
but it sure does affect how you feel
about your sexual identity.
506
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,720
I wrestled with that today.
507
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,800
It did bring up little
silly feelings of self-identifying
508
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,440
and, like, guilt or shame,
and that kind of stuff.
509
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,200
And it kind of also made me
silence myself in that way
510
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,400
because I'm, like, so bored
of that kind of self-projection
511
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,520
and, like, self... battery.
512
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,960
The more I tried to deny the fact
that I was in any way homosexual,
513
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,480
the more I hated myself.
514
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,240
What you also try to deny
515
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,120
then kind of rears its head
even more.
516
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,600
The thing is, you could say
my sexuality is natural.
517
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,240
I can say,
"I'm born this way. Accept it."
518
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,800
But the truth is I can still feel
the stigma and the shame.
519
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,360
And I know there are
many people out there
520
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,920
who have grown up in far more
difficult circumstances than me.
521
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,720
I want to meet people who have lived
522
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,320
through societal shame
and rejection, and fought back
523
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,760
so I can understand
how to be more self-accepting.
524
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,640
Sound check.
525
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,000
My name is The Darvish,
526
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,240
and I am a Syrian
performance artist,
527
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560
an event organiser,
528
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,680
community changer
and an LGBTQIA+ rights advocate.
529
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,760
And I consider myself
a force of nature.
530
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,440
-Hello.
-Hello, my love.
531
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,800
-My man, indeed.
-Hi, my love. Oh, my goodness.
532
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,240
-How are you, my man?
-Pleasure meeting you.
533
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,200
We're now entering the club.
534
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,920
We need to create some magic.
535
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,800
The Darvish is from Syria,
536
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,040
where same sex relationships
are still illegal.
537
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,000
-Whoo, honey.
-Honey.
538
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,680
We need a little bit of techno,
and that's it basically.
539
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,080
It's literally all you need.
540
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,880
I realised when I'm queer
probably in the age of 14.
541
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Up and straight and you drop it.
One and two.
542
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,480
And then the journey started
of me immediately realising
543
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,840
that this is a taboo in the country
that I am in right now,
544
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,080
and that it is dangerous
for me to, you know, own it.
545
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,800
So, yeah, started living, um...
546
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,040
more carefully and cautiously,
but gracefully.
547
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,200
And, yella, yeah.
Use the hands, okay.
548
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,760
She's getting it. Okay.
549
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,040
When ISIS overtook parts of Syria,
The Darvish had to make a choice.
550
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,360
The war got really serious.
551
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,160
Persecutions and executions
and stuff like that.
552
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,880
That's where it really hit us
we cannot be visible at all.
553
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,760
The decision over me leaving Syria,
that was the hardest thing.
554
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Choosing my life.
555
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,360
And...
556
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,720
Yeah.
557
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,720
One second.
558
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,480
I focused on imagining
how my life would be.
559
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560
You don't have
to live a double life.
560
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640
You don't have to pretend anymore.
You don't have to act.
561
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,120
You can be you. Free.
562
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640
The Darvish has now been safe
in Berlin for six years.
563
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Your mum, she understood,
though, you leaving, or not?
564
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Well, she didn't want to.
She didn't want to understand.
565
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,720
It was very hard
for her, for me to leave,
566
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,960
but I think
I made my point very clear
567
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,320
that if I stay,
there is no future for me, you know?
568
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,200
-It got too dark.
-Yeah.
569
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Right? I don't like it.
570
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Oh, no. I thought you meant life.
571
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,760
I said, "Yes."
572
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,280
I disagree, honey.
573
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,800
I actually have
a little something for you.
574
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,840
This is for you.
This is a little dervish.
575
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,160
-Yeah, whirling dervish!
-Yes.
576
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,000
So, this is to say
that you mean a lot to the community
577
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040
and we really appreciate you,
578
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,800
and thank you so much
for being with us tonight.
579
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,920
-Thank you so much.
-Thank you.
580
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,480
I am a whirling dervish.
581
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,360
-Perfect, I'm happy you like it.
-Oh, that's so cute!
582
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,760
Tonight The Darvish
will be performing
583
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,840
with their collective
called Queens Against Borders,
584
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,800
working for the Trans and Queer
Refugee Community.
585
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Hello!
586
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Okay. Thank you so much everyone
587
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,840
for being here with us
at this fundraiser.
588
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,560
We're very glad that you're here.
589
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Welcome to the stage,
Dornika and her bad bitch Tram.
590
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,120
Yes.
591
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Whoo!
592
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,600
I think finding and building
a community anywhere in the world,
593
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,280
whatever community it is,
is super vital.
594
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,520
The community that I have built
595
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,680
brought to me everything
that I could ever imagine,
596
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920
which is me being me.
597
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Yeah!
598
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Please, put your hands together
599
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,080
for the gorgeous,
the stunning, the beautiful,
600
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,280
the one and only, The Darvish!
601
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,120
I never really had
any interest of politics,
602
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,680
but being the person I am
is a political statement by itself.
603
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,920
I am a walking... politician,
let's say.
604
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,680
I choose my dance and my passion
and my performances
605
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,160
to say something.
606
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:00,520
I am trying my best
to have the visibility here
607
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,680
in order later to mobilise it
there, in Syria.
608
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,920
I'm beginning to understand
what I've been missing
609
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
by not being more active
like The Darvish.
610
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,120
They've unlearned the shame
and surrounded themselves with love.
611
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,280
It's given me so much
to think about.
612
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,800
I don't really go to gay bars.
I don't really know...
613
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,800
I mean, I'm a shit gay person.
614
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,440
Also because I think
that comes from a deep line
615
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680
of like not really wanting
to be gay that much.
616
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,800
But like I do, it's just
with every story there's been...
617
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,040
It's been plagued with some sort of,
some element of heartbreak,
618
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,880
but then some massive amount of joy,
you know.
619
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,720
And that's the magic
of queer people.
620
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,040
I mean, it's an amazing gift
and a curse in so many ways.
621
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,000
It's a double edged sword.
622
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,280
But that's
what I always leave feeling, is joy,
623
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,800
which is... that's the rainbow,
that's the community.
624
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Today, across the world,
625
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,960
there are trailblazing countries
where marginalised LGBTQ+ folk
626
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,080
can find that community
and that joy.
627
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,160
And South Africa is a known haven
for queer refugees.
628
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,360
One of the first countries
to legalise same sex marriages,
629
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,400
and the only one in Africa.
630
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,280
There are LGBTQ+ church groups...
631
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,720
To find an LGBT ministry
within South Africa,
632
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,960
it just makes everything better.
633
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,960
...and queer festivals...
634
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,480
I actually love it because I can be
whoever that I feel like.
635
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,800
Well, I'm a homosexual, very gay,
over the top, extremely flamboyant.
636
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,560
Spaces like this
are definitely important
637
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,280
because I don't know,
I just feel so much more need.
638
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,880
We wanna get married
and just settle down
639
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,840
and just live a beautiful life.
640
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,560
And have furry babies,
'cause I don't want actual ones.
641
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960
I mean, come on,
why wouldn't you want
642
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,320
to be a part
of this big old queer family
643
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,200
when it looks like so much fun?
644
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,600
Yet, it's no wonder
so many of us LGBTQ+ folks
645
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,000
still feel shamed,
646
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880
given that even
in so-called liberal countries,
647
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,800
there are laws being tabled
against queer people.
648
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Don't say "gay," right?
649
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,280
Which is why we need
events like Dinah Shore,
650
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,120
not just to party, but as a refuge.
651
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
I'm back with my new friends,
Kimber and Lilly.
652
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,920
I wish I could go back to myself,
back when I was younger,
653
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,920
and just kind of figuring out
my sexuality,
654
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,760
and I wish I could show myself
what my life is today.
655
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
I grew up in Tennessee,
656
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,680
in a very conservative family,
very religious,
657
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,360
and being gay was just,
like, absolutely not acceptable.
658
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,960
Here I am all these years later,
659
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,680
and I have an unbelievable
queer community around me.
660
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,440
It's just so important
to not feel alone,
661
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,880
and I feel like a lot
of queer people feel alone.
662
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,760
And you're not gonna feel
alone here.
663
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Where we live,
there's not very many places...
664
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,800
-It's better now.
-They're starting to accept it,
665
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,440
but you still get a little bit
of a look here and there.
666
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Like, do you walk down the street
holding hands?
667
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,720
Probably not.
668
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,160
It's amazing for me,
669
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,840
especially, like, I didn't come out
until later in life.
670
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,840
-So...
-I'm an old lesbian.
671
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
So, yeah, for me, like, it's, um...
672
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,880
It just feels like very less,
I don't know, stressful.
673
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Like, I don't feel
like I need to hold back.
674
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,120
I'm just...
I'm pretty much me everywhere,
675
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,080
but here it's just a little extra.
676
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,480
-Like, just total.
-It's emotional.
677
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Yeah.
678
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,280
Yeah.
679
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,120
She's having a good time.
That's all that matters. Sorry.
680
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,800
It's incredible to be free
just for a few hours.
681
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
It feels like a weight
has been lifted.
682
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,400
-Hey, Cara!
-Yes?
683
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Welcome to Palm Springs!
684
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Thank you!
685
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,640
Yeah!
686
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,200
We love lesbians!
687
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,000
I now have gay friends.
688
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,960
-What have you learnt?
-So, wait, I'm confused.
689
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Okay, pass me back that.
I need it.
690
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Okay, so what have I learnt
about myself?
691
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,080
I love being queer.
692
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,600
You know,
this, like, internalised homophobia
693
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,040
or this repressed,
you know, whatever, um...
694
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:52,680
Yeah, I don't know why I said that.
Being here, I don't know why.
695
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,040
It's something that I put on myself,
not generally to other people.
696
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,440
It's about myself.
697
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,600
But then this experience
has really...
698
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,920
I've felt like I've made friends
with that in myself.
699
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,640
I think that's what I've learnt,
700
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,240
which is a whole roundabout way
of saying, um...
701
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
I shouldn't be shameful, I suppose.
702
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,920
So I guess
that's my story over, right?
703
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,960
My own journey of self-acceptance
done and dusted
704
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
thanks to the amazing
queer people I've met
705
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,880
and the wet and wild world
of Dinah Shore.
706
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Well, not quite.
707
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,320
The thing is LGBTQ+ festivals
708
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,440
are kind of a closed world,
a cosy safe refuge.
709
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,000
It's time to stop hiding
710
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
and do what I said at the start
that I've never done.
711
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,920
It's time to go out there
and be visible in a city I love.
712
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Yes, at last, I'm gonna go
to fricking Pride!
713
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,520
I want that outfit.
You look amazing.
714
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,200
Look at those models' faces.
715
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,720
The fame.
716
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Do you mind if I interview you?
717
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,160
I'd love to interview you as well.
718
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,880
-I can do that.
-Okay, good.
719
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,880
I've never been to Pride before,
so this is my first Pride.
720
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,800
I've been out for a while, but yeah.
721
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,480
-Happy Pride.
-Happy Pride!
722
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,920
Tell me a bit about your experience
as drag queens.
723
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,320
How old you were when...?
724
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,640
-But we're still only 15.
-Yeah, exactly.
725
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,200
-Me too.
-I'm 12.
726
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,680
-I'm 12.
-No, you aren't.
727
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,160
When did you come out?
728
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,600
26, 27. Don't ask me how old I am.
729
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,720
I wouldn't ask a lady that.
Yeah, I know.
730
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,280
-The last ten years, changing a lot.
-It's changing a lot.
731
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,400
But now marriage, family, kids.
It's wonderful.
732
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,800
Yeah. It's possible.
733
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,600
It's always that one month of Pride
or Pride Week or Pride,
734
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,520
but I think we need
to be proud every day.
735
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,640
-But thank you so much.
-And thanks for spreading the word.
736
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,120
It's a really big deal.
737
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,240
It's a duty, I feel.
I haven't done it until now.
738
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,320
-Happy Pride!
-Happy Pride!
739
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,160
It's emotional for me a little bit,
740
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,040
'cause I think when you're queer
741
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,280
and you spend so much time
being quiet and being silenced,
742
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Pride allows a space for people
to come and feel safe.
743
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
The rainbow's a perfect example
of showing their true colours,
744
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,800
showing who they really are,
being able to be loud.
745
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,240
Oh, my God!
746
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Pride has now been running
for more than 50 years.
747
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,240
Since the first one
in New York in 1970,
748
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,880
there are dozens of Pride events
around the world every year.
749
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,880
Here, the weather might be gloomy,
but there are rainbows galore,
750
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,920
and I've just seen a familiar face.
751
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,640
-Hello, again!
-Hi! Oh, my gosh!
752
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,360
-Sorry. How are you?
-Hi.
753
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,320
This is amazing, yeah.
754
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,840
Yesterday I saw
two men holding hands
755
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,280
for the first time
in my life, and...
756
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,520
Anybody who sees them
will be like, "Oh, this is..."
757
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,800
-This is normal. Not weird.
-Yeah.
758
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,480
What Pride has taught me is,
in so many places in the world,
759
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,920
you can find LGBTQ+ community.
760
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Many of us have been
on similar journeys.
761
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,360
Some individuals
can make a difference.
762
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,520
I've met them,
and they've inspired me
763
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,200
to say goodbye to that shame
once and for all.
764
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,720
I feel so much more comfortable,
and I feel very proud.
765
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,920
I mean,
not just because it was Pride.
766
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,360
It's not like it's changed me.
767
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,400
It's not like I've discovered
new elements of myself.
768
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,040
It's just me being able
to be myself in these situations.
769
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,920
It's just been a real revelation.
770
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,280
I just want to keep being
in this Planet Sex mode.
771
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,760
Meeting people
from around the world,
772
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,720
connecting,
listening to people's stories,
773
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,600
trying to imagine their situation,
trying to understand,
774
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,280
and through that,
understand more about myself,
775
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,600
and hopefully ignite
or inspire others
776
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,440
to have similar conversations.
777
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,360
I've just never done
anything so personal.
778
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,240
It makes me realise what's important
779
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,320
and how much more active
I want to be
780
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,920
in terms of trying to make
some sort of small difference.
781
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,520
Any difference
is still better than nothing.
782
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,760
Okay. No, I'm sad. Is it over?
783
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,840
It's never over. Pride's never over.
Here's to coming out.
784
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,040
It's a really beautiful experience,
and I'm so thankful for it.
785
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,520
Don't, I'll get fucking emotional.
I hate emotions.
786
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,360
What do you want? Just say can't.
787
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Yes.
788
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,320
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