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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,214 --> 00:00:08,007 [people chanting] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:08,341 --> 00:00:10,134 [Brian Posehn] The early 1980s. 5 00:00:12,136 --> 00:00:14,616 [male voice 1] 12 million people are unemployed in our country, 6 00:00:14,722 --> 00:00:17,099 1.3 million of them in California, 7 00:00:17,391 --> 00:00:20,228 more than 150,000 right here in the Bay Area, 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,106 like this self-styled Reaganville near the railroad tracks in Berkeley. 9 00:00:24,398 --> 00:00:27,693 [male voice 2] Those are the conditions for tough times and real struggle. 10 00:00:27,985 --> 00:00:29,345 [Ronald Reagan] I regret to say... 11 00:00:29,529 --> 00:00:32,448 that we're in the worst economic mess since the Great Depression. 12 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:38,454 [music playing] 13 00:00:45,002 --> 00:00:47,046 [Brian Posehn] The San Francisco Bay Area, 14 00:00:47,505 --> 00:00:50,716 located on the Western edge of the continental United States, 15 00:00:51,008 --> 00:00:54,804 has a long history of supporting new music and free expression, 16 00:00:55,846 --> 00:00:57,807 from jazz experimentation, 17 00:00:58,474 --> 00:01:01,686 to beat poetry, to rock and roll. 18 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:06,691 By 1980, with the American economy in recession, 19 00:01:06,983 --> 00:01:09,610 a new group of teenagers came of age, 20 00:01:09,902 --> 00:01:11,571 and they wanted a new music. 21 00:01:11,862 --> 00:01:14,323 Something faster, something heavier, 22 00:01:14,615 --> 00:01:18,327 something that mirrored their own lives and not the previous generations. 23 00:01:19,412 --> 00:01:23,457 From far away Europe, heavy metal sounds were slowly rippling westward, 24 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:25,293 carried by word of mouth, 25 00:01:25,710 --> 00:01:27,336 a few rare, imported records, 26 00:01:27,628 --> 00:01:29,171 some bootleg cassette tapes, 27 00:01:29,630 --> 00:01:31,465 and music magazines. 28 00:01:31,757 --> 00:01:36,512 But California was too far away for most of these bands to tour here. 29 00:01:36,804 --> 00:01:40,099 So the young music fans of the Bay Area did what we do best. 30 00:01:40,641 --> 00:01:42,518 We didn't wait for the music we wanted. 31 00:01:42,810 --> 00:01:44,186 We created our own. 32 00:01:45,104 --> 00:01:46,264 [interviewer] Are we rolling? 33 00:01:46,314 --> 00:01:48,316 Right, I just want to say one thing first: 34 00:01:48,941 --> 00:01:50,276 Posers must die! 35 00:01:50,735 --> 00:01:52,921 [male voice] We were out of our minds. We were kind of crazy. 36 00:01:52,945 --> 00:01:54,405 We were just kids. 37 00:01:54,697 --> 00:01:55,740 Kids run amok. 38 00:01:56,032 --> 00:01:57,825 [male voice 2] It was scary, and it was dark. 39 00:01:58,117 --> 00:01:59,797 [Alex Skolnick] It's this outlet for angst. 40 00:01:59,869 --> 00:02:00,953 I'm Alex Skolnick, 41 00:02:01,245 --> 00:02:03,289 born and raised in Berkeley, California. 42 00:02:03,581 --> 00:02:05,141 Hey, I'm James Hetfield from Metallica. 43 00:02:05,416 --> 00:02:07,144 This is the music you don't want your parents to hear. 44 00:02:07,168 --> 00:02:07,835 Gary Holt. 45 00:02:08,127 --> 00:02:09,920 David Ellefson, bassist for Megadeth. 46 00:02:10,212 --> 00:02:12,892 I don't need to say my name. Everybody watching this knows who I am. 47 00:02:13,007 --> 00:02:14,007 [chuckles] 48 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:16,194 We were doing it for chicks and beer, and I didn't drink. 49 00:02:16,218 --> 00:02:18,378 My name's Chuck Billy. I grew up in Dublin, California. 50 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:20,598 [Mark Osegueda] And the pits were violent as hell. 51 00:02:20,765 --> 00:02:22,600 Mark Osegueda from the San Francisco Bay Area. 52 00:02:22,892 --> 00:02:25,061 Phil Demmel from Dublin, California. 53 00:02:25,353 --> 00:02:27,647 The volume, the craziness, was epic. 54 00:02:27,938 --> 00:02:29,565 Wow, we've got to do more of this. 55 00:02:30,024 --> 00:02:31,817 Robb Flynn, Oakland, California. 56 00:02:32,109 --> 00:02:34,695 My name's Rick Hunolt. I played guitar for Exodus. 57 00:02:34,987 --> 00:02:36,347 People have passion for the metal. 58 00:02:36,572 --> 00:02:38,342 There's no distinction between the bands and the fans. 59 00:02:38,366 --> 00:02:40,159 We called it The Land Of Misfit Toys. 60 00:02:40,451 --> 00:02:42,078 People in our scene, we felt invincible. 61 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:44,080 It was about survival. It was like... Aah! 62 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:46,582 [male voice] Exodus had the destruction recipe. [laughs] 63 00:02:46,874 --> 00:02:48,226 If Exodus was playing, we were there. 64 00:02:48,250 --> 00:02:49,450 [whispers] That's Paul Baloff. 65 00:02:49,543 --> 00:02:51,703 Kirk came up with a name, and we were just like... wow. 66 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:52,546 What was the question again? 67 00:02:52,838 --> 00:02:55,091 My name is Lars Ulrich, and I'm from Denmark. 68 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:57,435 - Tom Ara ya. - [Phil Demmel] Fucking Slayer. 69 00:02:57,593 --> 00:02:59,512 [Tom Ara ya] Singer and bass player for Slayer. 70 00:02:59,804 --> 00:03:01,865 [male voice] I got goosebumps talking about it right now, man. 71 00:03:01,889 --> 00:03:02,889 My name is Paul Bostaph. 72 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:05,267 Larry Lalonde, El Sereno, California. 73 00:03:06,018 --> 00:03:09,021 Charlie Benante, and I'm from the Bronx, New York. 74 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Dave Lombardo, South East, LA. 75 00:03:11,732 --> 00:03:14,360 There was an aura of watching history happen. 76 00:03:14,652 --> 00:03:17,697 East Bay guys. They played before us, and that was kind of a mistake. 77 00:03:17,988 --> 00:03:21,492 I am Robert Trujillo. I'm from Santa Monica, California. 78 00:03:21,784 --> 00:03:24,161 There goes that guy who was in Metallica. What's he up to? 79 00:03:24,453 --> 00:03:26,693 It wasn't as exciting as you thought it would be, was it? 80 00:03:27,748 --> 00:03:29,208 ♪ Murder in the front row ♪ 81 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:30,940 ♪ Bang your head against the stage ♪ 82 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:32,370 ♪ And metal takes its price ♪ 83 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:33,713 ♪ Bonded by blood ♪ 84 00:03:38,884 --> 00:03:41,679 [Kirk Hammett] We were far away from the city. We were isolated. 85 00:03:42,304 --> 00:03:44,098 There was nothing to do. 86 00:03:45,141 --> 00:03:46,684 All we had was music, you know? 87 00:03:46,976 --> 00:03:48,078 It was a pilgrimage, you know. 88 00:03:48,102 --> 00:03:50,104 We would mow a few lawns, save a few bucks, 89 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:52,773 take the Alameda across the county... Bus transit... 90 00:03:53,065 --> 00:03:54,900 To the BART station, take BART to Berkeley, 91 00:03:55,192 --> 00:03:56,402 and walk up to Telegraph. 92 00:03:56,694 --> 00:03:59,780 It's the... Uh... W-we went to all the hard rock stuff, 93 00:04:00,072 --> 00:04:02,408 you know, Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, 94 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,160 Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy. 95 00:04:04,452 --> 00:04:06,996 Anything and everything that was around that had an edge, 96 00:04:07,288 --> 00:04:08,914 that was loud and energetic, 97 00:04:09,206 --> 00:04:10,249 I just went to. 98 00:04:10,666 --> 00:04:13,085 Kirk was the first guy to ever play me, like, 99 00:04:13,377 --> 00:04:14,920 Uli Roth-era Scorpions, 100 00:04:15,212 --> 00:04:17,506 and that was the first day we ever hung out. 101 00:04:17,798 --> 00:04:20,843 And that was when we met at his house to go see Ted Nugent and the Scorpions. 102 00:04:21,135 --> 00:04:23,804 But there was other stuff coming out of England and Germany 103 00:04:24,096 --> 00:04:27,141 that nobody was really was partial to on a large scale, 104 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:28,713 other than the kids that I knew. 105 00:04:28,934 --> 00:04:31,479 The kids of my age, uh, were listening to disco. 106 00:04:31,771 --> 00:04:32,851 They were listening to pop, 107 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:35,357 and I just wasn't really interested in that. 108 00:04:35,649 --> 00:04:38,319 We all went to the same record stores. There was very few. 109 00:04:38,611 --> 00:04:41,614 There was something that I just wasn't getting enough of 110 00:04:41,906 --> 00:04:44,116 until I heard this one band called UFO. 111 00:04:44,408 --> 00:04:47,077 And they had the heaviness. They had the intensity. 112 00:04:47,369 --> 00:04:48,412 They had the energy. 113 00:04:48,704 --> 00:04:50,039 They had the musicianship. 114 00:04:50,331 --> 00:04:52,708 They had a guitar player that was sent from heaven 115 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 named Michael Schenker. 116 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:57,004 Me and John Marshall became obsessed with UFO. 117 00:04:57,463 --> 00:04:58,798 [guitar solo playing] 118 00:05:15,898 --> 00:05:19,568 I was hanging out up in Berkeley in April or May of 1980, 119 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:21,862 and I was walking along Telegraph Avenue. 120 00:05:22,154 --> 00:05:24,549 [Harald Oimen] You'd see him down on Telegraph and Berkeley all the time. 121 00:05:24,573 --> 00:05:26,992 [Lars Ulrich] As I was walking, I heard a Motorhead song. 122 00:05:27,284 --> 00:05:29,554 [Harald Oimen] You could hear him coming from a block or two away, you know? 123 00:05:29,578 --> 00:05:30,578 A total character. 124 00:05:30,704 --> 00:05:33,040 [Lars Ulrich] There was this crazy skinny, tall dude. 125 00:05:33,332 --> 00:05:35,668 [Erik Lannon] Denim vest on, long hair, 126 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,420 big Thin Lizzy Chinatown patch on his back, 127 00:05:38,712 --> 00:05:40,506 and he was playing Motorhead on his boombox. 128 00:05:40,798 --> 00:05:42,508 You know, up... up on his shoulder. 129 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,135 This is back in the day when you'd carry a big boombox 130 00:05:45,427 --> 00:05:48,138 that needed, like, D cells, like, ten of them. 131 00:05:48,430 --> 00:05:51,517 He had this boombox about this big on his shoulder, and he would just be... 132 00:05:51,809 --> 00:05:53,129 [Lars Ulrich] Blasting Motorhead, 133 00:05:53,185 --> 00:05:55,187 and that was Rich Burch. 134 00:05:55,479 --> 00:05:58,148 This shit was so loud it was like a Memorex commercial. 135 00:05:59,567 --> 00:06:00,943 Whoa, who's that guy? 136 00:06:01,235 --> 00:06:02,862 That seems like somebody we should know. 137 00:06:03,445 --> 00:06:07,700 [Lars Ulrich] Very quickly I got invited to hang out with some of his crew 138 00:06:07,992 --> 00:06:08,992 and ended up in a place 139 00:06:09,243 --> 00:06:11,704 in the Golden Gate Park called Strawberry Hill, 140 00:06:11,996 --> 00:06:13,914 where I met Ron Quintana, 141 00:06:14,456 --> 00:06:15,541 Ian Kallen. 142 00:06:15,833 --> 00:06:20,588 It was the beginning of getting to know that crew of people that were all 143 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,718 the Iron Maiden/Motorhead/Saxon/ Diamond Head/Merciful Fate fanatics. 144 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:30,014 By 1980, music sucked. 145 00:06:30,306 --> 00:06:32,766 Being a kid in San Francisco, 146 00:06:33,058 --> 00:06:35,978 radio was going downhill disco. 147 00:06:36,270 --> 00:06:38,814 And so, radio stations were really bad. 148 00:06:39,106 --> 00:06:42,318 And luckily there was KUSF, which could play harder punk stuff. 149 00:06:42,610 --> 00:06:44,987 So that's where you'd first hear UFO maybe once in a while. 150 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,823 And at high school I ran into a friend, 151 00:06:48,115 --> 00:06:50,677 and he said, "You've got to go to this store called the Record Vault. 152 00:06:50,701 --> 00:06:51,701 It's amazing." 153 00:06:51,785 --> 00:06:54,330 I got on the bus. I headed up, walked in, 154 00:06:54,622 --> 00:06:57,333 and it was like walking into Mecca. 155 00:06:57,750 --> 00:07:00,336 It was dark. It was cool. 156 00:07:00,628 --> 00:07:01,962 There was Motorhead playing, 157 00:07:02,254 --> 00:07:05,966 and all over the walls was everything that I was into. 158 00:07:06,842 --> 00:07:09,261 We'd find all this great, imported metal, you know? 159 00:07:09,553 --> 00:07:13,682 Budgie, and Venom, and Diamond Head, and Sweet Savage demos. 160 00:07:13,974 --> 00:07:16,578 All this stuff that we really loved that you weren't going to find at, 161 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:17,802 like, you know, Tower Records. 162 00:07:18,020 --> 00:07:21,482 Back then you'd be hanging out in the record store for two, three hours. 163 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:23,609 You only have $20 bucks in your pocket, 164 00:07:23,901 --> 00:07:25,879 so you were trying to figure out which two records to buy. 165 00:07:25,903 --> 00:07:26,943 You know, it took a while. 166 00:07:26,987 --> 00:07:29,573 It was the place everybody came to find out things. 167 00:07:29,865 --> 00:07:33,494 It was the place everybody came to buy their new release, 168 00:07:33,786 --> 00:07:38,165 to get their copy of Metal Mania, Ardschok, Kerrangl, whatever. 169 00:07:38,457 --> 00:07:39,457 And it was awesome. 170 00:07:39,667 --> 00:07:41,427 It was an amazing experience just to go there 171 00:07:41,627 --> 00:07:45,756 and... and see all these like minded people that were there, too, 172 00:07:46,048 --> 00:07:48,509 shopping for the same stuff, and they're all wearing vests, 173 00:07:48,801 --> 00:07:51,804 and back patches, and into metal and into all this underground stuff. 174 00:07:52,429 --> 00:07:55,099 The record stores would have the albums set up on the wall 175 00:07:55,391 --> 00:07:57,601 and on a little shelf, so you could see the cover, 176 00:07:57,893 --> 00:08:00,688 and there was the first Iron Maiden album cover with Eddie on it. 177 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:03,148 You know, it was, like... Oh, shit, look at that! 178 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,650 Down in Southern California, 179 00:08:05,109 --> 00:08:07,653 my place was called Middle Earth... Middle Earth Records. 180 00:08:07,945 --> 00:08:10,948 And, you know, you'd have to go in and order the record. 181 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,450 There was such an anticipation around getting it. 182 00:08:13,742 --> 00:08:15,285 All the different bands, you know, 183 00:08:15,577 --> 00:08:17,997 all these different, unique sounds and styles, 184 00:08:18,497 --> 00:08:19,497 and we were just... 185 00:08:19,665 --> 00:08:21,542 We just dove head first into it. 186 00:08:21,834 --> 00:08:26,088 I gravitated towards these metal bands because they were an escape. 187 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:28,274 You listen to an Iron Maiden song, and they're talking about 188 00:08:28,298 --> 00:08:32,219 a fantasy, that was no different, in my head, to a Stephen King novel. 189 00:08:32,511 --> 00:08:34,888 Yes, there were murders. Yes, there were Satanic things. 190 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:36,180 It was fantasy. 191 00:08:36,223 --> 00:08:39,518 It didn't make me want to go out and slaughter babies or anything. 192 00:08:39,810 --> 00:08:43,772 It was an escape from my suburban, teenage life. 193 00:08:44,064 --> 00:08:46,191 This is a... just a drawing of Eddie. 194 00:08:46,483 --> 00:08:47,901 I was a huge Iron Maiden fan, 195 00:08:48,193 --> 00:08:51,530 and obviously I should've been paying more attention in geometry. 196 00:08:51,822 --> 00:08:53,490 I got a 27 out of 52. 197 00:08:54,283 --> 00:08:57,953 [Brian Posehn] The compact cassette tape came of age in the 19705. 198 00:08:58,245 --> 00:09:00,039 Inexpensive and easy to record, 199 00:09:00,330 --> 00:09:04,543 tape-traders quickly adopted it as a means of spreading the newest sounds. 200 00:09:05,461 --> 00:09:08,589 In the pages of Kerrangl, they would have pen pal ads. 201 00:09:08,881 --> 00:09:12,426 Kerrang! would run them for free. That's what started everything. 202 00:09:12,718 --> 00:09:16,138 That's how I found out about Brian Lew and KJ Doughton. 203 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:18,265 KJ had a ton of Maiden, and so did Brian. 204 00:09:18,557 --> 00:09:19,557 So that was cool. 205 00:09:19,767 --> 00:09:21,487 That was another big staple of the movement. 206 00:09:21,643 --> 00:09:23,353 Everyone had their demo and bootleg list, 207 00:09:23,645 --> 00:09:27,149 and they'd ask for the other person's list and trade tapes. 208 00:09:27,441 --> 00:09:31,570 Back then it was snail mail, and tapes, and stamps, and handwritten letters. 209 00:09:31,862 --> 00:09:35,991 All of a sudden I was getting letters from people in Germany, Holland, France, 210 00:09:36,283 --> 00:09:38,410 England, New York, Chicago. 211 00:09:38,702 --> 00:09:40,913 It just opened up this whole worldview. 212 00:09:41,205 --> 00:09:45,084 I had been now trading with so many people, getting tapes 213 00:09:45,375 --> 00:09:47,836 and fanzines from England, mainly. 214 00:09:48,128 --> 00:09:51,673 This list kept growing from two, three, four, five, six pages. 215 00:09:51,965 --> 00:09:54,885 And then I realized... Well, I want to do a fanzine, 216 00:09:55,177 --> 00:09:57,638 and I started to add pictures in July. 217 00:09:57,930 --> 00:10:01,934 And it became Metal Mania by August of 1981. 218 00:10:02,267 --> 00:10:05,729 When I first met Ron, he made me a compilation tape. 219 00:10:06,021 --> 00:10:07,261 I mean, it was the thing to do. 220 00:10:07,314 --> 00:10:09,674 It was part of the conversation back then in the early '805. 221 00:10:10,109 --> 00:10:13,320 The thing that maybe has become the misconception over the years about 222 00:10:13,612 --> 00:10:16,281 the tape-trading network is we weren't dubbing albums. 223 00:10:16,573 --> 00:10:18,659 We were dubbing live bootlegs. 224 00:10:18,951 --> 00:10:21,453 You know, at that time part of being a music fan 225 00:10:21,745 --> 00:10:23,497 is you wanted to own the record. 226 00:10:23,789 --> 00:10:25,225 You wanted to own the seven-inch single, 227 00:10:25,249 --> 00:10:28,085 because it made you feel part of something bigger. 228 00:10:31,755 --> 00:10:34,800 In high school, they had a guitar class, 229 00:10:35,092 --> 00:10:37,678 and it was literally 30 people learning how to play guitar. 230 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:39,972 And in that class was Mark Biederman, 231 00:10:40,264 --> 00:10:42,558 who was eventually in Blind Illusion, and Kirk. 232 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:46,270 Before Gary was in the band, you know, when it was just Kirk and them, uh... 233 00:10:46,562 --> 00:10:50,023 they would... they sometimes rehearsed at our rehearsal space, you know? 234 00:10:50,315 --> 00:10:52,317 And Kirk and I were in Mr. Bee's class together, 235 00:10:52,609 --> 00:10:53,609 the guitar class. 236 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:57,239 We were kind of just... mostly just, like, learning our instruments. 237 00:10:57,739 --> 00:11:01,160 And, you know, Kirk turned me on to so many different kinds of music. 238 00:11:01,451 --> 00:11:04,538 Like, I had never heard UFO or the Scorpions. 239 00:11:04,872 --> 00:11:06,623 All we had was music, you know? 240 00:11:06,915 --> 00:11:09,585 And then when we got into the music, all we had were each other. 241 00:11:09,877 --> 00:11:13,172 And you know, we wanted to take it to the next level, so we got instruments. 242 00:11:13,463 --> 00:11:16,717 And I think that the anger of being in a place 243 00:11:17,009 --> 00:11:18,969 that just didn't have enough to offer, you know, 244 00:11:19,261 --> 00:11:21,013 the frustration of being bored. 245 00:11:21,388 --> 00:11:24,433 I think a lot of that got channeled into our instruments. 246 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:28,312 ♪ I'm gonna be a rock n roll star ♪ 247 00:11:28,604 --> 00:11:30,856 ♪ I got a girl from that day ♪ 248 00:11:31,481 --> 00:11:36,069 [Brian Posehn] In Los Angeles, a new heavy metal was beginning to rise. 249 00:11:36,361 --> 00:11:38,947 In December of 1980, a friend of mine and I... 250 00:11:39,239 --> 00:11:40,425 Who were the only two people, by the way, 251 00:11:40,449 --> 00:11:42,594 at the time who knew anything about the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, 252 00:11:42,618 --> 00:11:43,978 went to see Michael Schenker Group 253 00:11:44,077 --> 00:11:46,038 play at a place called the Country Club in Reseda. 254 00:11:46,622 --> 00:11:49,124 After the show, my friend John was in the parking lot, 255 00:11:49,416 --> 00:11:53,253 and he saw some kid wearing a Saxon European T-shirt. 256 00:11:53,545 --> 00:11:55,547 Now, in 1980 nobody knew who Saxon was in LA, 257 00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:57,159 let alone had a European T-shirt. 258 00:11:57,257 --> 00:11:59,097 And that of course was a kid named Lars Ulrich. 259 00:11:59,384 --> 00:12:01,720 Fast-forward to when James and I had the band. 260 00:12:02,012 --> 00:12:05,224 One thing led to another, and we started playing in LA. 261 00:12:05,515 --> 00:12:07,017 A year-and-a-half or so later, 262 00:12:07,476 --> 00:12:09,436 we got the idea to do a compilation album. 263 00:12:09,728 --> 00:12:12,165 Lars called me up one day and said, "If I put together a band, 264 00:12:12,189 --> 00:12:14,429 can I be on your album?" I'm like, of course. Absolutely. 265 00:12:14,566 --> 00:12:18,820 So Lars and me are always talking about doing a magazine. 266 00:12:19,112 --> 00:12:22,199 "We need a store, man. Let's just start a club and hang out." 267 00:12:22,491 --> 00:12:23,968 And Lars, in his way, you know, he was, like, 268 00:12:23,992 --> 00:12:25,672 "Oh, that's cool. That's a good idea, man." 269 00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:29,873 He showed me a list of his future band or club names. 270 00:12:30,165 --> 00:12:35,003 So he had, like, generic, hot-rod-y American car names: 271 00:12:35,504 --> 00:12:37,714 Thunderbolt, [chuckles] 272 00:12:38,006 --> 00:12:41,260 Metal Mania, Metallica. He had a huge list of names. 273 00:12:41,677 --> 00:12:43,797 That ended up being some band that starts with an "M". 274 00:12:43,929 --> 00:12:44,929 I think it was Metallica, 275 00:12:45,138 --> 00:12:48,308 that we misspelled on the very first [chuckles] version of the record. 276 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,727 Lars always was able to make things happen. 277 00:12:51,019 --> 00:12:53,772 Somehow he landed them a gig opening for Saxon. 278 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:56,775 James didn't play guitar. He just sang. 279 00:12:57,067 --> 00:12:58,360 And Dave Mustaine played guitar. 280 00:12:58,652 --> 00:13:00,946 Their set consisted of "Hit the Lights," 281 00:13:01,238 --> 00:13:04,491 "Blitzkrieg" by Blitzkrieg, and about five Diamond Head covers. 282 00:13:04,783 --> 00:13:05,909 And that was pretty much it. 283 00:13:06,201 --> 00:13:08,495 The selection of the cover songs we did I think 284 00:13:08,787 --> 00:13:11,999 was a little bit more, uh, involved, 285 00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:16,044 because we all kind of had a say in what bands we liked. 286 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,505 When Metal Mania 5 came out 287 00:13:18,797 --> 00:13:21,174 right after Metallica played their very first shows ever. 288 00:13:21,466 --> 00:13:24,720 So, Lars helped write an article about his show 289 00:13:25,012 --> 00:13:26,412 and this great new band, Metallica. 290 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,181 He wrote this little article, 291 00:13:28,473 --> 00:13:30,434 uh, about L.A. heavy metal 292 00:13:30,934 --> 00:13:33,729 and young metal attack Metallica, 293 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:37,149 and this is the very first article ever, uh, of Metallica, 294 00:13:37,441 --> 00:13:39,294 and of course it was written by Lars. [chuckles] 295 00:13:39,318 --> 00:13:43,030 But they never really quite fit in with the LA. crowd. 296 00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:45,741 We got gigs when we could, as many as we could. 297 00:13:46,033 --> 00:13:47,951 And, you know, we got kicked out of a few clubs 298 00:13:48,243 --> 00:13:50,537 because they thought we were a punk rock band. 299 00:13:50,829 --> 00:13:52,205 With Brian Slagel's help, 300 00:13:52,497 --> 00:13:55,459 we were able to go up to the San Francisco area 301 00:13:55,751 --> 00:13:58,211 mm a few other LA. bands. 302 00:13:58,503 --> 00:13:59,671 Man, it was on. 303 00:14:00,172 --> 00:14:01,965 [heavy metal song playing] 304 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:10,220 [Sven Soderlund] When they came up to San Francisco, 305 00:14:10,265 --> 00:14:12,476 and they saw the energy that was involved, 306 00:14:12,768 --> 00:14:14,811 they just wanted to be in that element. 307 00:14:16,855 --> 00:14:19,816 And it helped them tremendously, and it helped us grow as a scene 308 00:14:20,108 --> 00:14:22,027 in San Francisco and the Bay Area, as well. 309 00:14:22,319 --> 00:14:24,279 A lot of bands came out of the East Bay. 310 00:14:24,571 --> 00:14:26,323 A lot of musicians came out of the East Bay. 311 00:14:26,990 --> 00:14:28,408 The East Bay is a fucked up place. 312 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:33,080 In the '705 and early 805, it had high unemployment, 313 00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:34,623 high crime rate, 314 00:14:35,165 --> 00:14:36,917 and it was a boring place. 315 00:14:37,376 --> 00:14:38,377 My mom worked a lot, 316 00:14:38,668 --> 00:14:41,505 so, like, in the daytime I had a lot of—- a lot of free time to myself 317 00:14:41,797 --> 00:14:43,799 to just jam out at home. 318 00:14:45,926 --> 00:14:50,347 We were ghetto kids, you know? We... we stole shit, you know? 319 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:53,392 Like, there's the time the Wagon Wheel liquor store 320 00:14:53,683 --> 00:14:55,018 in Pinole burned down, right? 321 00:14:55,310 --> 00:14:57,830 You know, most people stay away from, like, burnt out buildings. 322 00:14:57,979 --> 00:14:59,773 Not Exodus. We crawled through the wreckage, 323 00:15:00,065 --> 00:15:02,943 because there was dozens and dozens of bottles of alcohol in there. 324 00:15:03,235 --> 00:15:06,988 I actually met Gary shoplifting when we were going to junior high school. 325 00:15:07,572 --> 00:15:09,074 We had nothing given to us. 326 00:15:09,366 --> 00:15:11,076 We stole some of our first equipment. 327 00:15:12,035 --> 00:15:13,635 Gary was a friend of mine from Richmond, 328 00:15:14,121 --> 00:15:17,791 and he was kind of, like, helping us out with gear and stuff like that. 329 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:20,085 And then Kirk gave him a guitar lesson, and... 330 00:15:20,544 --> 00:15:21,544 [imitates explosion] Wow. 331 00:15:21,753 --> 00:15:24,756 Taught me how to play guitar, you know? I hold a pick the way I do, 332 00:15:25,048 --> 00:15:26,675 I fret a bar chord the way I do. 333 00:15:26,967 --> 00:15:29,177 We do it exactly the same, because he showed me. 334 00:15:29,469 --> 00:15:30,549 Here's how you hold a pick. 335 00:15:30,637 --> 00:15:32,517 So, all right, I'll hold a pick like that, then. 336 00:15:32,722 --> 00:15:35,475 It was Kirk saying, yeah, I want to jam with people 337 00:15:35,767 --> 00:15:38,645 finding guys that played, and making it happen. 338 00:15:38,937 --> 00:15:41,982 I remember walking into this party, not knowing anyone, 339 00:15:42,274 --> 00:15:44,109 seeing this one short guy 340 00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:47,320 with hair that was just like mushroom-shaped, 341 00:15:47,612 --> 00:15:51,491 super long, and he was talking like this and, like, you know, was cracking jokes, 342 00:15:51,783 --> 00:15:53,493 and some of it was pretty funny, you know. 343 00:15:53,785 --> 00:15:55,579 And he started talking about music. 344 00:15:55,871 --> 00:15:57,539 He's like, "Oh, yeah, Judas Priest. 345 00:15:57,831 --> 00:16:01,293 So heavy, so heavy. Oh, Maiden is so heavy, so heavy." 346 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:03,305 And I said to him, "Hey, bro, you know UFO?" 347 00:16:03,587 --> 00:16:06,590 He goes, "Rock bottom, Rock bottom," 348 00:16:06,882 --> 00:16:08,467 And starts singing "Rock Bottom" to me. 349 00:16:08,758 --> 00:16:10,510 ♪ Seventeen and nature's queen a“ 350 00:16:10,802 --> 00:16:11,845 I looked at him and said, 351 00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:14,240 "You're going to be the singer of our new band, Exodus." 352 00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:15,932 He's like, "OK." 353 00:16:16,224 --> 00:16:19,561 Then from that minute on we were inseparable. 354 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,731 His name was Pablo Nikolaivich Paulakersokoff. 355 00:16:23,356 --> 00:16:26,067 It means son of Nicholas in Russian. He was a blue blood Russian. 356 00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:29,362 He was a little tiny guy, very aggressive. 357 00:16:29,654 --> 00:16:32,115 A strong, thick, 100-percent Russian man. 358 00:16:32,491 --> 00:16:34,117 Paul was Paul, take it or leave it. 359 00:16:34,409 --> 00:16:36,203 I mean, he had so much charisma 360 00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:39,164 and so much energy that you just wanted to be around him. 361 00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:45,128 He couldn't sing that well, but he could sing good enough. 362 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:50,926 ♪ Slicing jaws, a way of life Brought up to waste mankind ♪ 363 00:16:51,927 --> 00:16:56,973 ♪ Loki's pets his little children Deadly every time ♪ 364 00:16:57,432 --> 00:16:59,267 That's where the line-up really came together, 365 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,979 you know, it's when we found the band's voice, you know. 366 00:17:03,271 --> 00:17:07,359 Baloff wasn't a singer when we met him. He was just a headbanger like us. 367 00:17:11,905 --> 00:17:15,116 When Exodus played, they just got the crowd completely insane. 368 00:17:15,408 --> 00:17:17,702 [Ron Quintana over radio] 369 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:35,095 [thrash metal song playing] 370 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:40,684 Paul's first show was at the Ducal Palace in Alameda, 371 00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:44,771 which is some little hall pizza joint kind of place, you know? 372 00:17:45,063 --> 00:17:48,108 And I remember, like, I knew he was the right guy for the job 373 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,760 because it was one of those places 374 00:17:49,943 --> 00:17:51,663 that's got a stage that's about a foot high. 375 00:17:51,903 --> 00:17:54,103 And next thing you know, he's over on top of the tables, 376 00:17:54,322 --> 00:17:56,199 and he's just rocking them fiercely like that, 377 00:17:56,491 --> 00:17:59,244 trying to break them. It was just... It was just fucking awesome. 378 00:17:59,536 --> 00:18:01,121 He checked everyone's attitude 379 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:03,540 and made sure that if you're hanging out with us, 380 00:18:03,832 --> 00:18:06,418 you're into the music, you knew the music, 381 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:09,296 and you weren't an F'in' poser. 382 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:11,464 [thrash metal song playing] 383 00:18:18,763 --> 00:18:20,324 [Brian Slagel] I was friends with all the people in San Francisco. 384 00:18:20,348 --> 00:18:22,309 There was a really great scene going on up there, 385 00:18:22,601 --> 00:18:24,601 so I was able to put together a Metal Massacre show 386 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:27,646 at the Stone in San Francisco, which was one of the big... big clubs there. 387 00:18:27,981 --> 00:18:30,150 So it was going to be three bands from LA. 388 00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:32,712 And I called up Lars and said, "Hey, one of the bands dropped out. 389 00:18:32,736 --> 00:18:34,755 We have this gig up in San Francisco. You guys want to do it?" 390 00:18:34,779 --> 00:18:37,741 Uh... We weren't one of the three bigger bands. 391 00:18:38,033 --> 00:18:39,673 We weren't even first on the agenda there, 392 00:18:39,743 --> 00:18:42,037 but we got invited when somebody canceled. 393 00:18:42,537 --> 00:18:45,308 [James Hetfield] So we hopped in Ron McGovney's pickup truck with our gear, 394 00:18:45,332 --> 00:18:47,012 and off we went with a trailer in the back. 395 00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:50,045 [Dave Mustaine] Some of you might even heard our Demo Tape. 396 00:18:50,337 --> 00:18:52,422 [crowd cheering] 397 00:18:53,548 --> 00:18:55,318 [Sven Soderlund] There were only a handful of people there. 398 00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:57,302 I know a lot of people claimed to have been there. 399 00:18:57,594 --> 00:19:01,556 I was actually given this shirt by their original bass player, Ron McGovney. 400 00:19:01,848 --> 00:19:04,368 [Brian Slagel] And that was the most amazing evening I ever saw, 401 00:19:04,601 --> 00:19:06,561 because in LA. they were outcast. Nobody knew. 402 00:19:06,853 --> 00:19:10,148 And we went up to San Francisco, and that place went crazy. 403 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:12,317 [Brian Posehn] In September 1982, 404 00:19:12,609 --> 00:19:15,236 Metallica played their first show in San Francisco. 405 00:19:16,279 --> 00:19:18,990 The reaction was immediate and explosive. 406 00:19:19,574 --> 00:19:21,284 My mom didn't let me go. 407 00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:25,497 [Ron Quintana] Dave had this charisma that just took over the band, 408 00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:27,165 and when Metallica played, 409 00:19:27,457 --> 00:19:29,560 I thought he was going to be, like, the next superstar, 410 00:19:29,584 --> 00:19:33,046 I mean, 'cause he was so crazy on stage, and funny. 411 00:19:33,338 --> 00:19:35,674 Who the fuck's the frontman, you or him? 412 00:19:36,174 --> 00:19:38,343 And I liked it 'cause, you know, I've got a big mouth. 413 00:19:38,635 --> 00:19:39,675 [chuckles] I like to talk. 414 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:46,309 Some of those people that I had befriended for the previous year or two came, 415 00:19:46,601 --> 00:19:48,269 and you felt there was, like, a scene, 416 00:19:48,561 --> 00:19:52,899 a sort of a collection of people that were really fans of the music, 417 00:19:53,191 --> 00:19:56,736 which was a really different thing than what was happening in LA. at the time. 418 00:19:57,028 --> 00:20:02,033 So it was a very, uh, surreal, transformative experience for us. 419 00:20:02,325 --> 00:20:05,078 [Brian Lew] We were all teenagers. They were in a band onstage. 420 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:06,610 We were teenagers in the crowd. 421 00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:09,165 And at the time, Metallica were doing Diamond Head covers, 422 00:20:09,457 --> 00:20:12,252 you know, one of those bands we didn't think anybody else knew about. 423 00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,184 And when they launched into "The Prince," 424 00:20:14,421 --> 00:20:17,590 that's where the bond with that band and the Bay Area happened. 425 00:20:17,882 --> 00:20:19,592 If you know that band, you're a brother. 426 00:20:19,884 --> 00:20:21,177 That was the switch. 427 00:20:21,678 --> 00:20:23,179 Yeah, I remember that first show, 428 00:20:23,471 --> 00:20:27,308 seeing fans that didn't care what they looked like. 429 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,352 I mean, they had cutoff denim and stuff. 430 00:20:29,644 --> 00:20:31,187 They... They didn't care. 431 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:34,524 And they were at the front of the stage, 432 00:20:34,816 --> 00:20:37,569 headbanging, because the music did that for them. 433 00:20:37,861 --> 00:20:41,197 They weren't gathered around the bar scene or anything. 434 00:20:41,489 --> 00:20:42,689 They were there for the music. 435 00:20:42,741 --> 00:20:45,201 I think we had a much different relationship with our fans, 436 00:20:45,493 --> 00:20:47,829 because, you know, we were salt of the earth. 437 00:20:48,121 --> 00:20:50,790 Metallica came up to the Bay Area to play the Old Waldorf, 438 00:20:51,666 --> 00:20:54,836 and I remember watching them thinking... Fucking pretty cool. 439 00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:59,215 Then Laaz Rockit came on and played for, like, literally, like, 25 people, 440 00:20:59,507 --> 00:21:01,509 and that said a lot to me. 441 00:21:01,801 --> 00:21:04,888 It said a lot to Baloff. It said to everyone in Exodus. 442 00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:07,056 We were like, OK. 443 00:21:07,348 --> 00:21:10,810 All right, we know what's... what's working here, and we know what's not. 444 00:21:11,102 --> 00:21:13,502 Yeah, so Metallica, I first got hip to them through the demo. 445 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:16,210 So shortly after that, the band I was playing with at the time, 446 00:21:16,399 --> 00:21:18,159 Laaz Rockit, we were playing a show together. 447 00:21:18,234 --> 00:21:20,320 They were playing before us. Mistake. 448 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:23,406 Something about Metallica. They had that special... 449 00:21:23,698 --> 00:21:25,784 That... that still... that kick, 450 00:21:26,075 --> 00:21:27,075 and... you know? 451 00:21:27,202 --> 00:21:29,037 They got that extra boost of adrenaline 452 00:21:29,329 --> 00:21:31,456 that I think made everyone step up their game. 453 00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:32,748 Everyone. 454 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:38,213 And then we played a show the next day, and... and it was a benefit for Metal Mania. 455 00:21:38,838 --> 00:21:42,717 It was kind of a hodgepodge thing that was put together in 24 hours. 456 00:21:43,009 --> 00:21:44,385 They needed to find bands. 457 00:21:44,677 --> 00:21:45,929 They had got Metallica. 458 00:21:46,221 --> 00:21:48,502 They asked us to open. We said, sure, we'll open the show. 459 00:21:48,723 --> 00:21:50,391 This is at the Mabuhay Gardens. 460 00:21:50,683 --> 00:21:51,768 We played our show. 461 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,479 Then Metallica came on, and they played. 462 00:21:54,771 --> 00:21:56,022 And they were just fantastic. 463 00:21:56,314 --> 00:22:00,652 And that's when I first met James, and that's when I first met Lars. 464 00:22:00,944 --> 00:22:05,657 You know, it's funny because it was a window into things to come in my future, 465 00:22:05,949 --> 00:22:07,909 because as I was talking to Lars, 466 00:22:08,201 --> 00:22:11,830 he got undressed and changed right in front of me. 467 00:22:12,121 --> 00:22:16,334 And I was like, "Wow, why is this guy doing that?" 468 00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:20,630 And then I realized... Oh, this is what, I guess, what European people do. 469 00:22:20,922 --> 00:22:22,966 [chuckles] Because... 470 00:22:23,258 --> 00:22:25,218 You know, I lived in the East Bay. 471 00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:28,805 All I had to contend with was rednecks everywhere, you know? 472 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:33,226 [Brian Posehn] Metallica's legendary demo cassette, 473 00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:38,064 No Life Til Leather, was recorded in the summer of 1982. 474 00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:41,526 It immediately became a staple of the tape-trading underground 475 00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:45,071 and established the band as a force to be reckoned with. 476 00:22:45,363 --> 00:22:48,283 [Lars Ulrich] First we did a four-song demo called "Power Metal," 477 00:22:48,575 --> 00:22:50,375 and then the infamous No Life Til Leather tape 478 00:22:50,618 --> 00:22:52,120 came a couple months after. 479 00:22:52,495 --> 00:22:55,081 I just started sending it to all the same people 480 00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:59,377 that I'd been trading some of this other underground metal stuff with, 481 00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:02,005 like the KJ Doughtons of the world. 482 00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:03,737 Oh my, God, this is tape is amazing. 483 00:23:03,923 --> 00:23:07,427 It just crushes. It's unbelievable, they've come so far. 484 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,014 And I sent Brian the first Metallica demo, 485 00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:13,186 and I think that's the first taste he got of it. 486 00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:20,535 [Toni Isabella] While working at the club, 487 00:23:20,648 --> 00:23:25,278 one of my coworkers had started to do a Monday night event 488 00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:26,738 called Metal Monday, 489 00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:30,325 and these bands that later became thrash were presented. 490 00:23:31,367 --> 00:23:33,286 And it was clear this was a new direction. 491 00:23:33,661 --> 00:23:35,180 [Craig Behrhorst] Attendance on a Tuesday morning 492 00:23:35,204 --> 00:23:37,004 in any of the high schools across the Bay Area 493 00:23:37,206 --> 00:23:38,333 was pretty poor. 494 00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:39,626 I can attest to that, 495 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:41,520 because a lot of us were still in high school. 496 00:23:41,544 --> 00:23:43,904 [Harald Oimen] The Bay Area people were so loyal to the band 497 00:23:44,172 --> 00:23:45,232 that if they didn't like the band, 498 00:23:45,256 --> 00:23:46,984 they would actually turn their backs on the... 499 00:23:47,008 --> 00:23:48,448 On the band while they were playing. 500 00:23:48,551 --> 00:23:50,446 [male voice] There was a band called Hans Naughty. 501 00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:51,971 And they were based in San Francisco 502 00:23:52,263 --> 00:23:55,433 but with very much a Los Angeles Sunset Strip aesthetic, 503 00:23:55,725 --> 00:23:57,365 and they were on the bill with Metallica. 504 00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,124 [James Hetfield] There were fans that had, you know, patches of 505 00:24:00,396 --> 00:24:02,565 obviously their favorite bands on and what not, 506 00:24:02,857 --> 00:24:05,737 and they would show how much they liked the band or didn't like the band. 507 00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:09,113 We might've flipped them off a couple times, and that got boring. So... 508 00:24:09,405 --> 00:24:10,966 [James Hetfield] They just quietly turned, 509 00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:13,910 and that was [laughs] I guess silent protest. 510 00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:14,869 They got across that... 511 00:24:15,161 --> 00:24:17,997 Hey, you're not a favorite band, and we're waiting for this one, 512 00:24:18,289 --> 00:24:19,874 the one that's on my back patch. 513 00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:25,755 [Ray Burton] Cliff came to us and said, "I'd like to learn to play bass guitar." 514 00:24:26,297 --> 00:24:30,718 Jan and I said, yeah, so we got him a cheap guitar and a cheap amplifier, 515 00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:32,637 and started giving him lessons. 516 00:24:33,262 --> 00:24:35,556 And, uh, from then on... 517 00:24:35,848 --> 00:24:37,809 you know, it was all Cliff. 518 00:24:38,267 --> 00:24:41,187 [Kirk Hammett] I knew about Cliff Burton from his previous band, Trauma, 519 00:24:41,729 --> 00:24:44,649 because Baloff knew about Trauma. Baloff had seen Trauma and said, 520 00:24:44,941 --> 00:24:46,141 "Oh, you got to see this band. 521 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,759 They've got a killer bass player and a killer guitar player." 522 00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:50,787 He said to me one day, He goes, "Hey, let's... 523 00:24:51,072 --> 00:24:55,410 You want to go to San Francisco to see a show at the... at the Stone?" 524 00:24:55,702 --> 00:24:58,663 "What's going on?" He goes, "Well, let's see this band Metallica." 525 00:24:58,955 --> 00:25:01,124 Maybe a couple months later, I was talking to Lars. 526 00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:03,769 He said, "Do you know any good bass players out there?" 527 00:25:03,793 --> 00:25:07,171 I said, "Well, there's this band from San Francisco 528 00:25:07,463 --> 00:25:09,465 with this amazing bass player named Cliff Burton. 529 00:25:09,757 --> 00:25:12,069 I saw him at the Troubadour a while ago, coming down and playing again. 530 00:25:12,093 --> 00:25:13,219 You guys should come." 531 00:25:13,511 --> 00:25:15,596 So Lars was like, "OK, cool." The show happens. 532 00:25:15,888 --> 00:25:17,015 Lars and James were there. 533 00:25:17,306 --> 00:25:19,906 And I didn't know how far into the set, but it was pretty early... 534 00:25:20,184 --> 00:25:21,829 Maybe the second or third song... Lars goes to me, 535 00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:23,771 "That... that's going to be our bass player." 536 00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,445 [James Hetfield] Cliff represented the Bay Area. 537 00:25:31,154 --> 00:25:33,197 He represented a freedom. 538 00:25:33,489 --> 00:25:37,035 He represented a... a... a freakness 539 00:25:37,326 --> 00:25:42,081 that I didn't know so much growing up in LA. 540 00:25:42,623 --> 00:25:45,585 I went and saw Cliff play with Trauma at the Keystone Berkeley, 541 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:48,212 and it was no secret that the band knew 542 00:25:48,504 --> 00:25:51,132 that Cliff was about to be poached from them. 543 00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:53,426 That's where Cliff belonged, was in Metallica. 544 00:25:53,968 --> 00:25:56,368 [Ray Burton] Cliff would be talking to somebody on the phone. 545 00:25:56,846 --> 00:25:58,973 And just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. 546 00:25:59,265 --> 00:26:00,683 And this went on for, 547 00:26:01,059 --> 00:26:03,352 oh, golly, I'd swear a month. 548 00:26:03,644 --> 00:26:04,896 And so finally I said to Jan, 549 00:26:05,229 --> 00:26:07,482 "Who's Cliff talking to on the phone so much?" 550 00:26:07,774 --> 00:26:10,359 And she said, "Well, there's a band from Los Angeles 551 00:26:10,651 --> 00:26:13,446 that wants him to... to join them." 552 00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:16,949 And, uh, and Clifford said, 553 00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:21,954 "No, I... I'm not going to go down to LA," I said... He said, "I told them," 554 00:26:22,246 --> 00:26:26,167 "If you guys want me to join your band, you can come up to the Bay Area." 555 00:26:26,459 --> 00:26:28,669 And by golly, here they did. [chuckles] 556 00:26:28,961 --> 00:26:30,321 - Then one day... - [phone ringing] 557 00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:31,881 Baloff called me up and said, 558 00:26:32,173 --> 00:26:35,426 "That guy Cliff Burton, bass player for Trauma, is in Metallica now!" 559 00:26:35,718 --> 00:26:38,137 And I said, "No fucking way." 560 00:26:38,888 --> 00:26:40,848 [thrash metal song playing] 561 00:26:47,146 --> 00:26:48,815 And then I saw them at the Stone, 562 00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:52,485 you know, Cliff's first gig at the Stone. And |... I was just like... 563 00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:55,530 ["Seek and Destroy" playing] 564 00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:00,910 [guitar solo playing] 565 00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:04,789 It was kind of like looking in a mirror. Here's another band playing, like, 566 00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:09,043 kind of what we are, you know, their own stamp on it. 567 00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:10,378 But, you know, 568 00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:14,215 I remember I... just hanging out and getting hammered that night, 569 00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:16,747 and we just all kind of said the same thing. It's like... 570 00:27:16,884 --> 00:27:18,719 We kind of found our kindred spirit, you know? 571 00:27:19,011 --> 00:27:21,097 [James Hetfield] There was a lot of integrity 572 00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:23,057 in the metal scene in San Francisco. 573 00:27:23,349 --> 00:27:26,435 And, you know, besides going up on the hill by the park 574 00:27:26,727 --> 00:27:29,564 and just blasting whatever music we were loving, 575 00:27:29,856 --> 00:27:31,190 booze and music, you know? 576 00:27:31,482 --> 00:27:34,193 That was our collective. That's where we got to know each other 577 00:27:34,485 --> 00:27:36,320 and really feel like we had a family. 578 00:27:36,612 --> 00:27:39,092 [Lars Ulrich] Cliff is the one that brought us to the Bay Area. 579 00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:41,242 If you want me in the band, you got to come up here. 580 00:27:42,201 --> 00:27:44,537 [Brian Posehn] On December 28th, 1982, 581 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,457 Cliff Burton was invited to play in a small house in El Cerrito 582 00:27:48,749 --> 00:27:51,669 that would later come to be known as the Metallica Mansion. 583 00:27:52,587 --> 00:27:56,299 Part audition, part rehearsal, only a lucky few were there. 584 00:27:57,133 --> 00:27:59,468 No audio exists, but fortunately for history 585 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,556 Brian Lew brought his camera and photographed the new band lineup. 586 00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:06,168 [Brian Lew] At some point Lars probably called me and said, 587 00:28:06,225 --> 00:28:08,545 "You know, we're going to be playing with our new bassist." 588 00:28:09,061 --> 00:28:11,981 Ron Quintana was there. Rich Burch was there. 589 00:28:12,273 --> 00:28:14,650 Ian Callin, who did Metal Mania with Ron, was there. 590 00:28:14,942 --> 00:28:16,944 There was a group of maybe five or six of us. 591 00:28:17,236 --> 00:28:20,448 There's this little room in El Cerrito, and that was the living room 592 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:22,825 where Metallica played with Cliff for the first time. 593 00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:24,277 [male voice] And that was it. 594 00:28:31,667 --> 00:28:35,213 Jamming with Cliff for the first time in the... in the living room there, 595 00:28:35,504 --> 00:28:38,025 hearing "Seek and Destroy", and all of a sudden he's doing some stuff. 596 00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:40,468 It's like... Oh, my, God, this is going to be awesome. 597 00:28:41,093 --> 00:28:44,263 It sort of catapulted Metallica to another level. 598 00:28:44,722 --> 00:28:46,390 [Brian Posehn] In early 1983, 599 00:28:46,682 --> 00:28:49,310 Metallica moved from Los Angeles to the Bay Area. 600 00:28:50,061 --> 00:28:54,065 A very short window of time with Mustaine in the band 601 00:28:54,357 --> 00:28:55,358 and Cliff in the band, 602 00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:59,111 and rehearsing and a few really great shows in the Bay Area. 603 00:29:03,991 --> 00:29:05,219 [Dave Mustaine] That was one of the things 604 00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:06,963 that you could tell when we played together. 605 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,370 When the lights are off and the guitars are roaring, 606 00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:12,667 there's a respect. 607 00:29:13,501 --> 00:29:15,294 Just the whole area, being up there, 608 00:29:15,753 --> 00:29:18,256 getting Cliff on board, it felt like home. 609 00:29:19,882 --> 00:29:22,301 And then it came time for us to play the show at the Stone. 610 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:26,681 We went on, and we had a great show. The place was packed. 611 00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:28,474 And then Metallica came on, 612 00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:33,396 and it was the first time that I'd actually been able 613 00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:34,814 to watch the whole show. 614 00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:37,483 As I'm watching them, I thought, 615 00:29:37,775 --> 00:29:41,487 "These guys are fucking great. They'd be so much better with me." 616 00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:48,244 [Brian Posehn] In the New York area, 617 00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:52,290 Anthrax was proudly flying the flag of the new heavy metal. 618 00:29:52,915 --> 00:29:54,685 [Charlie Benante] I think we felt kind of out of it 619 00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:57,420 because we were the only band on the East Coast 620 00:29:57,712 --> 00:29:59,297 that wanted to do something like this. 621 00:29:59,588 --> 00:30:03,384 And we thought it was so cool that in the Bay Area, 622 00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:07,054 there was this kind of club of these type of bands 623 00:30:07,346 --> 00:30:09,473 that were gigging around and just making music. 624 00:30:09,765 --> 00:30:12,393 And I remember Exodus being one of the first bands, 625 00:30:12,685 --> 00:30:15,980 beside Metallica, that I thought were fucking great. 626 00:30:16,439 --> 00:30:18,316 I just started getting the tape out there, 627 00:30:19,066 --> 00:30:21,861 and then, um, we started getting you know, some good response. 628 00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:25,781 And, you now, eventually this tape ended up in the hands of Johnny 2. 629 00:30:26,157 --> 00:30:30,328 Around that time we were meeting with Johnny 2 in New Jersey, 630 00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:32,371 giving him demos. 631 00:30:32,663 --> 00:30:35,708 He was bringing the band from San Francisco to come over. 632 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,295 [male voice] Johnny 2, he came down to the house with a demo tape, 633 00:30:39,587 --> 00:30:41,213 which was No Life Til Leather. 634 00:30:41,505 --> 00:30:42,715 We were blown away. 635 00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:46,594 Metallica was always ahead of us and the other bands, you know? 636 00:30:46,886 --> 00:30:48,739 They were always six months to a year ahead of us. 637 00:30:48,763 --> 00:30:52,266 They came out with Kill 'Em All before any other band had their records out. 638 00:30:52,558 --> 00:30:56,312 I think Kill 'Em All really set the tone for what was gonna come. 639 00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:58,981 [Brian Posehn] In April 1983, 640 00:30:59,273 --> 00:31:03,319 Dave Mustaine was let go from Metallica and replaced by Kirk Hammett. 641 00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:06,489 We had obviously started hanging out with Exodus, 642 00:31:06,781 --> 00:31:10,576 and Kirk was definitely very musically gifted. 643 00:31:10,868 --> 00:31:13,371 And he was also very up for whatever was going on. 644 00:31:13,662 --> 00:31:15,456 Yeah, Kirk and I were at this party. 645 00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:18,417 He's like, "Hey, man, come here. Mark Whitaker just called me. 646 00:31:18,709 --> 00:31:20,878 They want me to audition for Metallica." 647 00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:23,339 You know, it's like a passing of the torch, you know? 648 00:31:23,631 --> 00:31:27,426 Like, Kirk giving me the keys to the family car, you know, and saying, 649 00:31:27,718 --> 00:31:29,678 "Here, it's yours now. Don't blow it up." 650 00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:31,263 [chuckles] 651 00:31:31,555 --> 00:31:33,057 As far as the music was concerned, 652 00:31:33,349 --> 00:31:37,436 Exodus' music was similar as to what Metallica was doing already. 653 00:31:38,312 --> 00:31:41,607 I had the chops to be able to play all that stuff on Kill 'Em All, 654 00:31:41,899 --> 00:31:44,402 no problem. That was the least of my worries, 655 00:31:45,027 --> 00:31:48,239 because even then I knew that when you go into a band, 656 00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:49,824 there's a certain dynamic. 657 00:31:50,116 --> 00:31:54,286 And if your personality doesn't work within that... that band dynamic, 658 00:31:54,578 --> 00:31:55,578 it just won't work. 659 00:31:55,913 --> 00:31:56,956 You won't go anywhere. 660 00:31:57,331 --> 00:32:00,251 [Brian Posehn] A group of die-hard New Jersey metal fans 661 00:32:00,543 --> 00:32:03,754 known as the Old Bridge Militia took Metallica into their home, 662 00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:05,506 the Funhouse. 663 00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:07,758 It's pretty amazing that the house got a nickname, 664 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,487 which was the Funhouse because of all the things that we did down there. 665 00:32:10,511 --> 00:32:12,831 The place was all about fun, because what did you do there? 666 00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:15,158 - You had dirt bikes happening. - Oh, yeah, there was... 667 00:32:15,182 --> 00:32:18,269 You had canoe rides [overlapping] hooked to a chain. 668 00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:22,189 We were welcomed to quite a few places that maybe shouldn't have. [laughs] 669 00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:24,692 - The Funhouse... - Not much to pick from. 670 00:32:24,984 --> 00:32:27,784 - They didn't have much. Yeah. Yeah. - A house with no heat, sometimes. 671 00:32:27,945 --> 00:32:30,781 [James Hetfield] You know, they supplied us with the things we needed. 672 00:32:31,073 --> 00:32:31,740 [chuckles] 673 00:32:32,032 --> 00:32:35,286 You know, everybody knew that we would have these crazy parties 674 00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:36,787 with the music going crazy. 675 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,375 The sound system was... I believe it was like a four-channel Onkyo. 676 00:32:41,667 --> 00:32:43,586 Yeah, I had the SAE, but we bought a regular... 677 00:32:43,878 --> 00:32:46,046 - Rack system. - Yeah, a whole rack system. 678 00:32:46,338 --> 00:32:48,024 Yeah, we just didn't have the regular speakers. 679 00:32:48,048 --> 00:32:49,734 We had... I guess they were monitors, right? 680 00:32:49,758 --> 00:32:53,429 Two 123, two 143—— whatever. It went up to the ceiling of the house. 681 00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:55,441 Run a demo, and then you're in your bedroom. 682 00:32:55,514 --> 00:32:57,558 You know, It was like, wow, this is pretty wild. 683 00:32:58,642 --> 00:33:00,442 [Brian Posehn] Meanwhile back in the East Bay, 684 00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:04,398 Exodus quickly took hold as the Bay Area's go-to heavy metal band. 685 00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:07,693 Ruthie's Inn became home to the burgeoning scene. 686 00:33:08,068 --> 00:33:09,737 [crowd chanting "Exodus"] 687 00:33:10,237 --> 00:33:11,715 [Gary Holt] Looks like someone's trying to make 688 00:33:11,739 --> 00:33:13,341 a respectable location out of this place. 689 00:33:13,365 --> 00:33:15,594 - Let's open it back up, Ruthie's Inn. - [Gary Holt chuckles] 690 00:33:15,618 --> 00:33:17,912 Last time I was down here, it still had the marquee, 691 00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:20,456 and you could still see Ruthie's Inn on it. 692 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:24,543 This place was as much the epicenter of the Bay Area thrash scene 693 00:33:24,835 --> 00:33:28,422 as CBGBs was to the New York punk scene. 694 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,592 I mean, there were so many clubs prior to Ruthie's, 695 00:33:31,884 --> 00:33:33,524 but this is where the Vio-Ience took off. 696 00:33:33,802 --> 00:33:36,680 This is where "Murder in the Front Row" really did take place. 697 00:33:38,098 --> 00:33:40,018 [Durell Robinson-Ali] My father was Wes Robinson, 698 00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,435 born in Port Arthur, Texas. 699 00:33:41,727 --> 00:33:44,480 Came out to the East Bay about 1933. 700 00:33:45,022 --> 00:33:47,691 He grew up in a household that was full of music, 701 00:33:47,983 --> 00:33:51,195 and they were hardcore jazz aficionados. 702 00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:55,908 They would sneak out late at night to go see Ella Fitzgerald or the classics. 703 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,078 A lot of the greats. That started his love of music. 704 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,850 It wasn't so much that he had a club, 705 00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:03,415 but rather that he would foster relationships 706 00:34:03,707 --> 00:34:07,920 that allowed him to use... Use different venues for performances. 707 00:34:08,963 --> 00:34:11,507 He was a promoter, and that was the beginning. 708 00:34:11,799 --> 00:34:15,177 And Wes Robinson, you know, the late, great Wes Robinson, you know, 709 00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:19,306 booked Exodus at the first ever show at Ruthie's, a blues club. 710 00:34:19,598 --> 00:34:21,278 [Durell Robinson-Ali] His joy for something 711 00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:24,353 always led his actions into getting involved with it. 712 00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:26,085 He never got involved with something 713 00:34:26,188 --> 00:34:28,816 just because he might be able to make some money at it. 714 00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:32,444 He saw something in it. I'm... I'm not sure what... what he saw. 715 00:34:32,736 --> 00:34:36,907 Maybe he recognized from when... when he was a music fan, being younger. 716 00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:38,826 Obviously much different music, 717 00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:41,120 but I think he saw some of that same energy. 718 00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:43,664 So he really helped nurture the scene. 719 00:34:44,081 --> 00:34:48,252 There were battles along the way. There were battles from the neighborhood. 720 00:34:48,627 --> 00:34:50,462 Um, you know, there was a... 721 00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:55,593 Um, there was a parking lot across from Ruthie's that is... Still... 722 00:34:55,884 --> 00:34:58,137 The business is still there. Big O Tires. 723 00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:00,889 People would throw up in there, in that parking lot, 724 00:35:01,181 --> 00:35:02,725 and, like, break bottles. 725 00:35:03,183 --> 00:35:06,186 After a while I was, like... These people never complain. 726 00:35:06,478 --> 00:35:08,522 They never call the cops. They never do anything. 727 00:35:08,814 --> 00:35:11,817 After thinking about it, I'm like... Well, they do sell tires there, so. 728 00:35:12,109 --> 00:35:14,987 We would party right across the street at the Big 0 parking lot. 729 00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:17,823 Someone would roll up in their Chevy Nova, 730 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,909 crack the trunk, and there'd be coolers of beer 731 00:35:21,201 --> 00:35:24,079 and bottles of Jack and what not. And we all hung out. 732 00:35:24,371 --> 00:35:27,499 Half the bands would wait with us and drink with us, and then... 733 00:35:27,791 --> 00:35:29,043 Oh, got to go into the show. 734 00:35:29,335 --> 00:35:31,587 Well, Exodus shows at Ruthie's were really crazy. 735 00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:34,590 I mean, I don't think I ever paid once to get into the show. 736 00:35:34,882 --> 00:35:36,383 Wes would be sitting at the door. 737 00:35:36,675 --> 00:35:38,886 I would walk by, and he'd just kind of go like that. 738 00:35:39,178 --> 00:35:43,098 Connie, Pam, Rebecca, Leah, 739 00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:44,933 those girls were something else, 740 00:35:45,225 --> 00:35:47,227 because there weren't very many of us at all. 741 00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,159 [Connie] We would go to the bar. We would sit down. We would drink. 742 00:35:50,272 --> 00:35:53,942 We didn't have IDs. We weren't old enough. But it just sort of happened. 743 00:35:54,234 --> 00:35:56,834 You know, people were dancing, and the bands were playing so hard. 744 00:35:57,071 --> 00:35:59,406 It became very human, very fast. [chuckles] 745 00:35:59,698 --> 00:36:03,058 [Gary Holt] That's when we found our home, because it was kind of where we were from. 746 00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:05,412 You know, Rick and Paul were both from Berkeley. 747 00:36:05,704 --> 00:36:09,041 You know, Robbie was from Berkeley. Tom and I were from San Pablo. 748 00:36:09,458 --> 00:36:10,938 [Brian Lew] Exodus at Ruthie's Inn... 749 00:36:11,001 --> 00:36:14,001 A random person would just record it and send it off to our pen pal friends. 750 00:36:14,046 --> 00:36:19,718 So you know, pre Bonded by Blood, this is how Exodus' music got out. 751 00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:21,970 [thrash metal song playing] 752 00:36:26,016 --> 00:36:28,060 [Alex Skolnick] It very quickly became a scene. 753 00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:30,646 It was the place to go. They have great kamikazes. 754 00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:32,698 You knew never knew what was going to happen. 755 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:35,109 You know, some crazy shit was going to jump off. 756 00:36:35,401 --> 00:36:37,337 Of course, I was young, and we were all just raging, 757 00:36:37,361 --> 00:36:38,987 and... it was a party. 758 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:41,007 [Harald Oimen] The place was really dark, 759 00:36:41,031 --> 00:36:43,367 and you kind of, like, get away with almost anything there. 760 00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:45,512 I'll never forget one time going through the crowd, 761 00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:46,971 like, headbanging and going crazy and stuff. 762 00:36:46,995 --> 00:36:50,249 I actually tripped on some people. There were some people, like, having sex. 763 00:36:50,624 --> 00:36:54,044 The shows were classic, dude. I mean, it was like Ruthie's Inn, 764 00:36:54,336 --> 00:36:56,797 so hot and humid in there. The walls would be sweating. 765 00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:59,883 People are hanging off of plumbing pipes and sprinklers, 766 00:37:00,175 --> 00:37:01,802 and toilets were getting broke. 767 00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:03,846 The place would just get fucking destroyed, 768 00:37:04,138 --> 00:37:06,218 and they'd still have us back, like, two weeks later. 769 00:37:06,473 --> 00:37:09,184 Toby Rage, Andy Anderson, Lonnie Hunolt... 770 00:37:10,102 --> 00:37:11,437 You know, we'd all take turns. 771 00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:13,188 We called it bowling ball. 772 00:37:14,064 --> 00:37:15,941 And it's where people jump on stage, 773 00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:19,111 and you're crouched in a ducking position by the drums. 774 00:37:19,403 --> 00:37:22,614 You get a running start and just linebacker them as hard as you could 775 00:37:22,906 --> 00:37:24,092 down into the crowd, you know? 776 00:37:24,116 --> 00:37:25,116 That was fun. 777 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,200 We were hanging out at the Big 0 across the street. 778 00:37:27,327 --> 00:37:28,954 This cat Toby Rage comes up, 779 00:37:29,246 --> 00:37:32,249 and he sees Leroy with his Mike Tereo hair 780 00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:34,168 and his white Capezios. 781 00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:35,854 And he walks up, and he just goes... 782 00:37:35,878 --> 00:37:37,171 [clears throat, spits] 783 00:37:37,463 --> 00:37:38,547 Nice shoes. 784 00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:42,342 Toby Rage was, again, I never saw him break character. 785 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:46,930 I don't know how he lived at that level. 786 00:37:47,556 --> 00:37:51,894 I just remember just feeling, you know, claustrophobic in there, 787 00:37:52,186 --> 00:37:54,306 but if the music was good, that was all that mattered. 788 00:37:54,521 --> 00:37:57,361 [Mark Osegueda] Exodus just owned it, and the pits were violent as hell. 789 00:37:57,399 --> 00:37:58,942 It was just... 790 00:37:59,234 --> 00:38:01,278 It was... It was... It was glorious. 791 00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:03,864 [Brian Lew] You know, Exodus's group of close friends, 792 00:38:04,156 --> 00:38:05,796 you know, they were called the Slay Team, 793 00:38:05,824 --> 00:38:08,827 and literally if someone showed up at Ruthie's Inn 794 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,872 wearing a Motley Crue or Ratt or a hair metal band shirt, 795 00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,666 they would literally tear the shirt off the kid's back. 796 00:38:15,167 --> 00:38:16,960 They would cut strips off of the shirt 797 00:38:17,252 --> 00:38:19,129 and tie them around their wrists, like scalps, 798 00:38:19,421 --> 00:38:21,840 and those aren't fucking friendship strips. 799 00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:23,634 Those are like war trophies. 800 00:38:24,176 --> 00:38:25,904 [Harald Oimen] Lizzie Green, Baloff's girlfriend, 801 00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:28,031 actually did a comic book that was based on the Slay Team. 802 00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:30,390 It was just them going out and killing posers, literally. 803 00:38:30,682 --> 00:38:34,561 Paul and I had this idea that we were going to make money. 804 00:38:34,853 --> 00:38:36,772 And so I draw up this whole comic. 805 00:38:37,064 --> 00:38:39,441 She would sit there and draw these little comics, 806 00:38:39,733 --> 00:38:42,820 which have now become the Slay Team comics, which are famous. 807 00:38:43,111 --> 00:38:45,823 "I can't believe this. That car just ran him down. 808 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,699 Someone wants to kill us all. 809 00:38:47,991 --> 00:38:52,454 It's the Slay Team, and they will kill us all unless we strike back." 810 00:38:52,746 --> 00:38:54,498 So we start a poser war. 811 00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:58,126 So, this is actually a real person. We called him Poser Bob. 812 00:38:58,418 --> 00:39:00,254 I don't remember what Bob's real name is. 813 00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:04,299 He did dress like this. He had no problem being a poser. 814 00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:08,178 [Brian Posehn] By the way, folks, she's now a nuclear scientist. 815 00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:12,099 I research explosives for the government, is the... is the party line, 816 00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:15,143 but I blow shit up for the government is my line. 817 00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:18,647 [Baloff on microphone] 818 00:39:19,022 --> 00:39:21,108 [Mark Devito] Toby Rage, I mean, it's like... 819 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,404 Nobody was going to try posing if all of a sudden you were going to get, 820 00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:28,657 you know, a Converse footprint on the side of your head. 821 00:39:28,949 --> 00:39:31,952 I got off the plane the one day, went to Ruthie's the next day. 822 00:39:32,244 --> 00:39:36,039 People were jumping on the PA stack. They were jumping off into the crowd. 823 00:39:36,415 --> 00:39:38,615 People were standing with their backs against the stage, 824 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:41,753 holding their hands like this, throwing people on. 825 00:39:42,045 --> 00:39:44,339 We had never seen anything like that in Europe. 826 00:39:45,465 --> 00:39:48,886 [Baloff on microphone] 827 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:52,598 [crowd cheering] 828 00:39:54,057 --> 00:39:56,727 [crowd chanting "Kill! Kill!"] 829 00:39:57,477 --> 00:39:58,637 [Pam] No stage diving for me. 830 00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:00,772 Most of the time I stood just on the outside 831 00:40:01,064 --> 00:40:03,275 and let some other guys push the guys in the middle. 832 00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:06,466 Just close enough so you could still see the band but not get, 833 00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:08,113 you know, run over. 834 00:40:08,405 --> 00:40:09,781 Ruthie's was insane. 835 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,784 And we were never real crazy about 836 00:40:13,076 --> 00:40:15,412 keeping people offstage at that point, you know? 837 00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:18,099 That's what they did, and they had a damn good time doing it. 838 00:40:18,123 --> 00:40:20,459 If you were a poser or a dippy girl or something like that, 839 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:21,793 they could be terrifying, 840 00:40:22,085 --> 00:40:24,004 but if you were a friend of theirs 841 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:25,940 and you understood them or you accepted them, 842 00:40:25,964 --> 00:40:27,633 their hearts were so big. 843 00:40:27,925 --> 00:40:30,719 [Brian Lew] One of those defining moments in any scene, 844 00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:34,473 where that was the show that inspired the lyrics to "Bonded by Blood." 845 00:40:34,848 --> 00:40:37,434 I remember it was us and some rock band playing, right? 846 00:40:37,726 --> 00:40:39,646 And the rock band, they were up there rocking out 847 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:41,337 for their sister's band or whatever 848 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,040 with their drink glasses and left them on the front of the stage. 849 00:40:44,107 --> 00:40:47,069 And when we come on, everybody starts smashing all the glass. 850 00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:49,780 So people's hands got out, so there was literally... 851 00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:51,132 - Blood upon the stage. - Blood upon the stage. 852 00:40:51,156 --> 00:40:52,658 There's literally blood all over. 853 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,453 And I remember this one girl who was there to see the rock band 854 00:40:56,745 --> 00:40:58,585 must've saw something she liked about the band, 855 00:40:58,872 --> 00:41:01,601 and she was up front and was rocking out, you know... This is kind of cool. 856 00:41:01,625 --> 00:41:04,753 And Paul reached down and got a big smear, a handful of blood, 857 00:41:05,045 --> 00:41:06,922 and just wiped it down her face. 858 00:41:07,214 --> 00:41:09,216 And she just ran out... Ah! screaming. 859 00:41:10,842 --> 00:41:14,429 [Brial L] Bonded by Blood is written by a band who were in the thick of it. 860 00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:19,476 That song and that album resonate so much because it's a product of the scene. 861 00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:21,770 ♪ Murder in the front row ♪ 862 00:41:22,062 --> 00:41:24,648 ♪ Crowd begins to bang And there's blood upon the stage ♪ 863 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,693 ♪ Bang your head against the stage And metal takes its price ♪ 864 00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:29,319 ♪ Bonded by blood ♪ 865 00:41:29,611 --> 00:41:30,320 [Brian Lew] You know, if you listen to it, 866 00:41:30,612 --> 00:41:32,292 it's almost like a documentary in some ways 867 00:41:32,406 --> 00:41:36,576 about those brief years when this whole Bay Area scene was just getting going, 868 00:41:36,868 --> 00:41:38,370 like, you know, '83 to '85. 869 00:41:39,037 --> 00:41:40,914 [thrash metal song playing] 870 00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:11,361 [Brian Posehn] Nobody, and I mean nobody, had ever seen anything like Slayer. 871 00:42:15,949 --> 00:42:18,994 I remember thinking this is really interesting, OK? 872 00:42:19,286 --> 00:42:20,954 They're from Southern California, 873 00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:23,457 but they're faster than... [chuckles] 874 00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,166 Any band I've heard. 875 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,419 The imagery, and the speed, 876 00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:31,173 and just the heaviness of it all just kind of took me into this. 877 00:42:32,174 --> 00:42:33,341 Fucking Slayer. 878 00:42:33,633 --> 00:42:34,673 ["The Antichrist" playing] 879 00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:40,432 ♪ I am the Antichrist It's what I was meant to be ♪ 880 00:42:40,807 --> 00:42:44,853 ♪ Your God left me behind And set my soul to be free ♪ 881 00:42:45,479 --> 00:42:46,873 [Dave Lombardo] When we went to the Bay Area, 882 00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:48,815 that's where we felt at home, 883 00:42:49,232 --> 00:42:50,692 because LA. was saturated 884 00:42:50,984 --> 00:42:52,903 and Hollywood was saturated with glam rock. 885 00:42:53,195 --> 00:42:54,404 We all know what that is, 886 00:42:54,696 --> 00:42:58,408 compared to, you know, thrashers and metal heads. We were opposite. 887 00:42:58,867 --> 00:43:00,994 When we played, all I remember 888 00:43:01,286 --> 00:43:03,622 is the enthusiasm of the crowd, their intensity. 889 00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:05,123 Kids jumping on the stage, 890 00:43:05,415 --> 00:43:08,455 and then they'd just start walking on people's heads and shoulders, you know, 891 00:43:08,502 --> 00:43:10,212 'cause everybody was just stuck together. 892 00:43:11,004 --> 00:43:13,232 [Tom Ara ya] We went up north and we did a show with Exodus, 893 00:43:13,256 --> 00:43:15,050 which blew me away. 894 00:43:15,634 --> 00:43:17,361 [Gary Holt] There's nothing wrong with imports. 895 00:43:17,385 --> 00:43:19,971 The Bay Area was the epicenter of the thrash scene, 896 00:43:20,263 --> 00:43:23,934 and if your own region was not welcoming of you, we would be. 897 00:43:24,643 --> 00:43:26,645 Being from LA, nobody... nobody did what we did. 898 00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:29,064 Soto be there, and to hear them, 899 00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:31,196 and think... Oh my, God, these... these guys... 900 00:43:31,399 --> 00:43:33,119 They're-they're doing the same thing we are. 901 00:43:33,401 --> 00:43:34,861 Really heavy music, awesome. 902 00:43:35,153 --> 00:43:37,364 The sounds are awesome. The band is fucking awesome. 903 00:43:37,656 --> 00:43:39,950 The guys were really cool, and we got along great. 904 00:43:40,408 --> 00:43:42,619 L.A. was more where the hair metal was going down. 905 00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:44,287 So we're kind of in O.C., 906 00:43:44,579 --> 00:43:47,499 and the 0.0. crowd was very similar to the Bay Area crowd, 907 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:50,127 but the Bay Area crowd was far more advanced. 908 00:43:50,669 --> 00:43:53,713 I first became aware of Slayer, um, when Brian Slagel, 909 00:43:54,005 --> 00:43:57,092 who runs Metal Bay Records, he sent me an advanced tape of Show No Mercy, 910 00:43:57,384 --> 00:43:58,385 their first album. 911 00:43:58,677 --> 00:43:59,719 It was almost like a demo. 912 00:44:00,011 --> 00:44:01,888 And, again, it was at the time when 913 00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:04,850 all we cared about were bands that played fast. 914 00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:07,978 And Slayer came up here and played their first three shows 915 00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:10,564 in January '84, 916 00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:13,024 and the first one was at the Keystone Berkeley. 917 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,240 If you look at the back cover of Show No Mercy, 918 00:44:15,485 --> 00:44:17,028 they were wearing eyeliner. 919 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,864 Why do you wear makeup? [chuckles] 920 00:44:19,156 --> 00:44:20,282 You can't call it glam, 921 00:44:20,574 --> 00:44:23,827 and it wasn't really makeup, but it was eyeliner. 922 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,556 [Tom Ara ya] Somebody made the remark, "Why are you guys wearing that makeup?" 923 00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:29,020 And my thought is... I'm not... I'm not really wearing makeup. 924 00:44:29,082 --> 00:44:31,877 But, you know, you don't need to be wearing that stuff, man. 925 00:44:32,711 --> 00:44:33,753 They're all in makeup, 926 00:44:34,045 --> 00:44:37,966 and they have, you know, the spandex and all the trip going on. 927 00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:40,552 And I think Kerry might've had spikes at that point. 928 00:44:40,844 --> 00:44:43,114 Whether you don't know me, whether you don't know the guitar, 929 00:44:43,138 --> 00:44:45,408 whether you don't know much about Slayer, you know those nails. 930 00:44:45,432 --> 00:44:48,810 [man] They had some shit going on that I was... "What the fuck is this?" 931 00:44:49,102 --> 00:44:52,147 People like Andy Anderson and Toby Rage, like, the original Slay Team. 932 00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:55,775 They noticed it and started a chant of "take off the makeup." 933 00:44:56,067 --> 00:44:57,387 And... you know... Andy even went 934 00:44:57,652 --> 00:45:00,363 as far as going to the men's room and getting paper towels. 935 00:45:00,655 --> 00:45:02,175 And we waved the paper towels at them. 936 00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:03,825 Slayer did two shows. 937 00:45:04,117 --> 00:45:06,411 They played the Keystone Berkeley the night before 938 00:45:06,703 --> 00:45:08,943 and then played Ruthie's the following night with Exodus. 939 00:45:09,122 --> 00:45:12,334 The Keystone Berkeley show was the last show they wore the makeup, 940 00:45:12,626 --> 00:45:15,670 'cause we told them that shit won't wash at Ruthie's Inn. 941 00:45:15,962 --> 00:45:17,047 That was it for me. 942 00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:20,026 Took all that shit off. Was like, "Fuck it, I don't need that shit." 943 00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:23,261 So I just stuck with, uh, black shirts and leather pants. 944 00:45:23,553 --> 00:45:24,553 [laughs] 945 00:45:24,804 --> 00:45:26,574 [Gary Holt] And after the Keystone Berkeley show, 946 00:45:26,598 --> 00:45:29,684 we destroyed their hotel. It was a swath of destruction. 947 00:45:29,976 --> 00:45:32,771 It had to be admired and appreciated. It was awesome. 948 00:45:35,565 --> 00:45:38,085 [Fred Cotton] They had a hotel room at the Berkeley Plaza Hotel, 949 00:45:38,276 --> 00:45:39,596 and we just destroyed that place. 950 00:45:39,694 --> 00:45:41,696 Showed up with, I think, Tom Hunting, 951 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,950 and these guys were nailing pizza to the ceiling, man, 952 00:45:45,242 --> 00:45:48,161 and, you know, jamming everything they could in the toilet. 953 00:45:48,453 --> 00:45:50,288 And, you know, we... we actually tunneled 954 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,458 a... a hole through the wall into the manager's hotel room. 955 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:58,338 They trashed this motel room that I... That I had under my name, 956 00:45:58,630 --> 00:46:00,632 'cause I was the oldest guy in the band. 957 00:46:01,299 --> 00:46:03,802 So we had two rooms, and they trashed them. 958 00:46:04,261 --> 00:46:06,861 Not too many years ago now Kerry and I were having a conversation, 959 00:46:06,888 --> 00:46:08,282 and somehow that came up. He was like, 960 00:46:08,306 --> 00:46:09,986 "Yeah, I got in a lot of trouble for that." 961 00:46:10,141 --> 00:46:13,561 That was kind of our first introduction into traveling away from home. 962 00:46:16,648 --> 00:46:17,649 [Brian Posehn] In 1984, 963 00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:22,320 Wes Robinson organized a mini-festival bringing together various types of bands. 964 00:46:22,696 --> 00:46:26,157 Although called Eastern Front, the festival was affectionately known as 965 00:46:26,449 --> 00:46:27,449 Day on the Dirt, 966 00:46:27,617 --> 00:46:31,371 a sly nod towards Bill Graham's much larger Day on the Green shows. 967 00:46:31,663 --> 00:46:35,875 [Mark Devito] It was how we would envision what a day on the green should be, 968 00:46:36,167 --> 00:46:38,878 because these were our heroes. These were our bands. 969 00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:42,507 [Brian Lew] And Wes Robinson, who ran Ruthie's Inn, organized it. 970 00:46:42,799 --> 00:46:45,677 It was kind of like the Woodstock moment of the Bay Area scene. 971 00:46:45,969 --> 00:46:48,972 He wanted people to be able to do what they wanted to do 972 00:46:49,681 --> 00:46:52,892 and, you know, hopefully make some money at it, 973 00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:57,814 and if you didn't make any money, at least there was the show. 974 00:46:58,106 --> 00:46:59,834 [Mark Devito] This was all at an aquatic park, 975 00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:01,043 which is at the bottom of Berkeley, 976 00:47:01,067 --> 00:47:05,071 right across this estuary that flanks the 80 Interstate. 977 00:47:05,488 --> 00:47:08,783 The lineup was... Slayer, Exodus, 978 00:47:09,075 --> 00:47:12,120 Possessed, Suicidal Tendencies. 979 00:47:12,454 --> 00:47:14,174 It's kind of a defining moment historically, 980 00:47:14,414 --> 00:47:15,915 because that's a crossover moment. 981 00:47:16,207 --> 00:47:17,607 Like, Suicidal was a hardcore band, 982 00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:20,351 and they were playing with Exodus and Slayer, who are metal bands. 983 00:47:20,503 --> 00:47:23,089 I know for a fact that the band could not play L.A. 984 00:47:23,381 --> 00:47:24,541 when I first joined the band. 985 00:47:25,467 --> 00:47:29,721 And, uh, basically Suicidal Tendencies was banned from Los Angeles. 986 00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,373 Everyone sort of went like, "Hey, we're not that different." 987 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,060 We love extreme music. We fucking hate glam rock. 988 00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:38,188 We hated all the bullshit about, like, you know, poser-type shit. 989 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,941 It was, like, kind of a defining moment, because everyone who was there were like, 990 00:47:42,233 --> 00:47:44,194 "Wow, like, this is pretty cool." 991 00:47:44,486 --> 00:47:46,005 [male voice] And you can see all the photos. 992 00:47:46,029 --> 00:47:49,574 I mean, all those guys were fast friends already, 993 00:47:49,866 --> 00:47:51,868 and if not, that solidified it. 994 00:47:53,328 --> 00:47:54,930 [male voice] That was one of the first shows where 995 00:47:54,954 --> 00:47:57,834 I started seeing, like, you know, the camaraderie of the bands and stuff, 996 00:47:57,999 --> 00:48:00,719 and I think that's one of the things that shows in the pictures, too. 997 00:48:01,753 --> 00:48:04,798 [Robert Trujillo] It was just amazing, you know, the spirit up north, 998 00:48:05,090 --> 00:48:06,633 experiencing that positive energy. 999 00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:08,426 And for me it was all brand new, 1000 00:48:08,718 --> 00:48:12,180 because, again, I didn't even get a chance to play L.A. yet 1001 00:48:12,472 --> 00:48:14,724 you know, with the... With this band that was from LA. 1002 00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:16,863 [male voice] It was a fast and furious pit, 1003 00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:18,103 and we had plenty of room. 1004 00:48:18,395 --> 00:48:21,398 The dirt was flying, and, uh, it was a great show. 1005 00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:26,194 [Mustaine on microphone] 1006 00:48:26,945 --> 00:48:29,280 [Brian Posehn] Dave Mustaine began his new band, Megadeth, 1007 00:48:29,572 --> 00:48:30,572 with a vengeance 1008 00:48:30,782 --> 00:48:35,120 and immediately played the Bay Area, where he was welcomed with open arms. 1009 00:48:35,662 --> 00:48:37,914 This is Megadeth's first demo 1010 00:48:38,415 --> 00:48:43,378 that Dave recorded, uh, after getting the original Megadeth together. 1011 00:48:43,753 --> 00:48:46,297 He sent them out to maybe a half dozen fans and people. 1012 00:48:46,589 --> 00:48:48,216 He handwrote the track listing on it. 1013 00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:53,221 Dave had this friend Brian Lew who offered to run our fan club, 1014 00:48:53,513 --> 00:48:55,807 which was basically consisted of a post office box. 1015 00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:58,852 One day this letter shows up that says, 1016 00:48:59,144 --> 00:49:01,855 "Hey, Dave, I hope your new shit's faster than Metallica." 1017 00:49:02,272 --> 00:49:04,274 And that night, I kid you not, 1018 00:49:04,566 --> 00:49:06,901 we went to rehearsal and sped every song up 1019 00:49:07,193 --> 00:49:08,611 by 10 to 20 beats per minute. 1020 00:49:08,903 --> 00:49:09,904 I mean, every song. 1021 00:49:10,196 --> 00:49:11,674 80 things like "Skull Beneath the Skin," which were like... 1022 00:49:11,698 --> 00:49:14,909 [vocalizing bass] 1023 00:49:15,243 --> 00:49:16,536 Kind of this Sabbath groove... 1024 00:49:16,828 --> 00:49:19,414 [vocalizing drums] 1025 00:49:20,123 --> 00:49:21,791 [fast-paced metal song playing] 1026 00:49:28,965 --> 00:49:30,234 [Kerry King] We'd been to the Bay Area enough times. 1027 00:49:30,258 --> 00:49:30,925 I couldn't tell you how many, 1028 00:49:31,217 --> 00:49:34,345 but we'd been there enough to where me showing up in Megadeth 1029 00:49:34,637 --> 00:49:36,397 is going to make people think of Slayer, too. 1030 00:49:36,681 --> 00:49:38,641 I saw Mustaine playing Metallica. 1031 00:49:38,933 --> 00:49:41,269 Me and Jeff would both sit in the crowd and go, 1032 00:49:41,561 --> 00:49:42,561 "How's he do that? 1033 00:49:42,812 --> 00:49:45,452 How's he playing that fucking shit and not looking at his fingers." 1034 00:49:45,523 --> 00:49:47,710 You know, we would just be amazed that he's just up there ripping, 1035 00:49:47,734 --> 00:49:48,443 looking over there. 1036 00:49:48,735 --> 00:49:50,778 So I was flattered when Mustaine came calling. 1037 00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:53,823 [Mustaine] There's a lot of crazy folklore 1038 00:49:54,115 --> 00:49:58,578 about those first couple of days, weeks, and months after I left New York. 1039 00:49:59,037 --> 00:50:02,749 When I got on the bus, I rode all the way to California. 1040 00:50:03,041 --> 00:50:04,209 Did a lot of soul-searching. 1041 00:50:04,834 --> 00:50:07,295 I had already started writing lyrics. 1042 00:50:07,587 --> 00:50:10,131 The first lyric I wrote was to the song "Set the World Afire," 1043 00:50:10,423 --> 00:50:11,463 which was called Megadeth. 1044 00:50:11,799 --> 00:50:14,511 And I saw a piece of paper on the floor of the bus 1045 00:50:14,802 --> 00:50:16,721 that was from Senator Alan Cranston. 1046 00:50:17,013 --> 00:50:18,908 And it was a handbill that he had put out that said, 1047 00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:22,852 "The arsenal of Megadeath can't be ready." He was talking about nuclear armament. 1048 00:50:23,394 --> 00:50:25,034 Arsenal of Megadeath, that's a great line, 1049 00:50:25,146 --> 00:50:26,826 so I wrote it down and put it in the song. 1050 00:50:26,981 --> 00:50:29,781 Didn't think that, you know, that would one day end up being the title. 1051 00:50:29,859 --> 00:50:31,152 My first show was with Megadeth, 1052 00:50:31,444 --> 00:50:34,298 and I remember the first time watching Mustaine play. I just couldn't believe it. 1053 00:50:34,322 --> 00:50:38,409 As a band, that was the first place that we went up there was Ruthie's. 1054 00:50:38,701 --> 00:50:41,913 And that was interesting, because, uh, Ruthie's was so small, 1055 00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:44,666 we'd built this crazy stage over at Kerry's house. 1056 00:50:44,958 --> 00:50:46,638 You know, I'd ask Kerry if he would help us 1057 00:50:46,834 --> 00:50:48,545 until we'd find a permanent player, 1058 00:50:48,836 --> 00:50:52,006 and we built the stage 'cause I wanted this war scene kind of thing. 1059 00:50:52,423 --> 00:50:55,552 When we got up there, the roof was about this tall, 1060 00:50:55,843 --> 00:50:58,531 and we're trying to figure out how we're gonna get all our stuff in there. 1061 00:50:58,555 --> 00:50:59,806 It's like... Well, shit. 1062 00:51:00,098 --> 00:51:01,867 [David Ellefson] And borrowing every marshal in the community 1063 00:51:01,891 --> 00:51:03,771 and everything we could buy out of the recycler. 1064 00:51:04,143 --> 00:51:06,063 You know, you got to kind of keep your head down. 1065 00:51:06,229 --> 00:51:08,958 If you jump up in the air, you're going to stick your head in a light socket. 1066 00:51:08,982 --> 00:51:11,693 He's like, "I'm going to put together this super group 1067 00:51:12,193 --> 00:51:15,154 that is just going to take fucking no prisoners, man." 1068 00:51:15,446 --> 00:51:18,283 [heavy metal song playing] 1069 00:51:25,582 --> 00:51:29,252 [vocalizing] 1070 00:51:30,837 --> 00:51:34,090 What I noticed around town is that there were a lot of people posing and primping, 1071 00:51:34,382 --> 00:51:37,594 and wearing their studded wristbands from the shops on Hollywood Boulevard. 1072 00:51:37,885 --> 00:51:40,045 And everybody looked like Vince Neil or David Lee Roth, 1073 00:51:40,263 --> 00:51:41,389 but Dave was the real deal. 1074 00:51:42,056 --> 00:51:44,183 [guitar solo playing] 1075 00:51:46,561 --> 00:51:49,401 Everybody was really surprised that Mustaine got booted out of the band, 1076 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,458 'Cause, I mean, back then he was almost like the frontman. 1077 00:51:51,482 --> 00:51:53,722 He really had something to prove after he left Metallica. 1078 00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:55,700 It was incredible how quick he got it together. 1079 00:51:55,778 --> 00:51:59,365 Megadeth was a band that was conceptualized before it was ever a band. 1080 00:51:59,657 --> 00:52:03,411 It was an architectural blueprint of what the band was going to be, 1081 00:52:03,703 --> 00:52:08,291 and I think because that was drafted in Dave apartment's and my apartment, 1082 00:52:08,875 --> 00:52:11,628 we've had this vision of what we've been aiming for. 1083 00:52:12,045 --> 00:52:14,839 [playing fast-paced guitar solo] 1084 00:52:19,677 --> 00:52:24,974 It's really creative. It's a great blend, and it's got that punk energy. 1085 00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:34,192 When we debuted the band in the Bay Area, to see that frenzy happening... 1086 00:52:34,525 --> 00:52:37,862 A kid reached up and actually grabs he string and breaks it off my bass, 1087 00:52:38,154 --> 00:52:39,834 [chuckles] right in the middle of the song. 1088 00:52:40,073 --> 00:52:41,532 I'd never seen anything like this, 1089 00:52:41,824 --> 00:52:45,286 and people were literally, like, bleeding on the stage from headbanging 1090 00:52:45,578 --> 00:52:46,621 and thrashing down front. 1091 00:52:47,163 --> 00:52:52,085 You could feel almost a tension, you know? He's up there trying to prove himself. 1092 00:52:52,377 --> 00:52:54,962 Thank you very much! 1093 00:53:00,176 --> 00:53:04,055 [Brial Lew] They moved here maybe January '83. They were gone in April. 1094 00:53:04,347 --> 00:53:09,018 They came back for, I think, a month in June, after recording finished. 1095 00:53:09,310 --> 00:53:10,329 And then they were on tour. 1096 00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:12,873 So, like, that first year that they quote-unquote moved to the Bay Area, 1097 00:53:12,897 --> 00:53:15,942 they were probably only here a couple months. 1098 00:53:16,317 --> 00:53:19,570 We really had just come from out of the underground. 1099 00:53:19,862 --> 00:53:21,072 We recorded Kill 'Em All. 1100 00:53:21,364 --> 00:53:26,327 We ran back to San Francisco to give it to all the people who were our core group. 1101 00:53:26,744 --> 00:53:31,749 It was our opportunity to put the scene on the fucking map. 1102 00:53:32,041 --> 00:53:34,836 Kill 'Em All came out in December of '83, you know? 1103 00:53:35,128 --> 00:53:39,257 And in our second issue I made the review. You know, we had record reviews. 1104 00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:42,343 You know, and I said Metallica... They are gonna get a whole page. 1105 00:53:42,635 --> 00:53:44,887 Nobody knew at the time how big they're going to get, 1106 00:53:45,179 --> 00:53:47,223 but I said this band is a killer. 1107 00:53:47,515 --> 00:53:49,600 So I made the headline, "Metal Album of the Year: 1108 00:53:49,892 --> 00:53:50,893 "Kill 'Em All." 1109 00:53:51,978 --> 00:53:54,939 [Brian Posehn] Exodus recorded their definitive thrash metal masterpiece, 1110 00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:57,984 Bonded by Blood, in 1984. 1111 00:53:58,651 --> 00:54:01,863 Bonded by Blood? How do you not like Bonded by Blood? 1112 00:54:02,947 --> 00:54:05,658 I love Exodus, um, especially from that time. 1113 00:54:05,950 --> 00:54:07,368 That's my favorite Exodus record. 1114 00:54:07,660 --> 00:54:09,954 Bonded by Blood was kind of more anticipated than 1115 00:54:10,246 --> 00:54:11,539 Kill 'Em All in a lot of ways, 1116 00:54:11,831 --> 00:54:16,544 just because, you know, we spent more time with Exodus than we did with Metallica. 1117 00:54:16,836 --> 00:54:19,297 Basically I ended up replacing Kirk. 1118 00:54:20,673 --> 00:54:23,673 We were never in the studio before, so we're learning the process, you know, 1119 00:54:23,718 --> 00:54:26,763 the whole mike thing and how to keep the guitars in tune, 1120 00:54:27,054 --> 00:54:28,734 like, because the mike hears everything... 1121 00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:32,977 And just learning from the very ground up how to record an album. 1122 00:54:33,269 --> 00:54:36,439 [Gary Holt] When we recorded Bonded by Blood at Prairie Sun studios, 1123 00:54:36,731 --> 00:54:38,733 our friends would come up from the Bay Area, 1124 00:54:39,025 --> 00:54:40,385 and we'd party at night, you know. 1125 00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:44,113 And they'd get too drunk, and there's fistfights and windows getting broken. 1126 00:54:44,405 --> 00:54:46,216 The whole thing with Bonded by Blood was it's like, 1127 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,827 it's a chemistry that five kids had. 1128 00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:51,788 Not knowing nothing about recording. 1129 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,915 We got nine songs together, 1130 00:54:55,333 --> 00:54:58,503 and we just want to put our everything we have into these songs, man, 1131 00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:00,463 and... and just capture this vibe. 1132 00:55:01,214 --> 00:55:03,814 It's the craziest thing. The very first note, man, is just like... 1133 00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:05,301 [imitates explosion] 1134 00:55:05,593 --> 00:55:07,595 ["Bonded by Blood" plays] 1135 00:55:18,523 --> 00:55:20,733 ♪ Bonded by blood ♪ 1136 00:55:21,692 --> 00:55:24,445 Bonded by Blood, it's an amazing album. 1137 00:55:24,737 --> 00:55:26,155 The riffs, the speed. 1138 00:55:26,447 --> 00:55:29,659 That's my Exodus record. That... That's the Exodus record. 1139 00:55:29,951 --> 00:55:34,330 It captured that kind of—- that youthful angst and anger. 1140 00:55:34,622 --> 00:55:35,623 That was thrash metal. 1141 00:55:35,915 --> 00:55:38,334 That was a Bay Area thrash metal record, you know? 1142 00:55:38,626 --> 00:55:40,586 So, you know, Kill 'Em All and Bonded by Blood 1143 00:55:40,878 --> 00:55:43,714 they're... they're kind of like... They're twins, in a way. 1144 00:55:44,006 --> 00:55:47,343 To this day, people are just like... Man, Bonded by Blood, forget about it. 1145 00:55:47,635 --> 00:55:49,488 There are quite a few covers from that period of time 1146 00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:51,740 where you kind of look at them and you're like... Wow, really? 1147 00:55:51,764 --> 00:55:53,224 But none the less, 1148 00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:59,230 I mean, what was inside that sleeve was nothing but pure Bay Area thrash. 1149 00:55:59,522 --> 00:56:01,732 What do you guys do with posers? 1150 00:56:02,024 --> 00:56:03,401 - Poser. - What? 1151 00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:04,402 That guy's a poser. 1152 00:56:04,694 --> 00:56:05,736 What do you teach them? 1153 00:56:06,028 --> 00:56:07,405 [crowd] A lesson in violence! 1154 00:56:07,697 --> 00:56:08,823 Here's a poser right here. 1155 00:56:09,115 --> 00:56:11,367 Some places don't know that you kill posers. 1156 00:56:11,659 --> 00:56:13,219 Break a poser's leg. It makes me smile. 1157 00:56:13,369 --> 00:56:14,579 Posers must die! 1158 00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:16,080 There's only one Paul, man. 1159 00:56:16,372 --> 00:56:17,874 [thrash metal song playing] 1160 00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:22,693 [Sven Soderlund] He's the epitome of what a singer should be, 1161 00:56:22,879 --> 00:56:24,130 because if you weren't into it, 1162 00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:27,216 he's all, "Pummel that poser." [laughs] 1163 00:56:27,508 --> 00:56:30,219 He'd go on one of those rants about killing posers onstage, 1164 00:56:30,511 --> 00:56:32,680 and if there were posers in the crowd, they worried. 1165 00:56:32,972 --> 00:56:35,850 My grandmother makes more noise than that! 1166 00:56:37,059 --> 00:56:39,538 [both] My grandmother can make more noise than that, and she's dead. 1167 00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,082 He would go to people's houses and completely trash their house. 1168 00:56:42,189 --> 00:56:45,568 The Exodus guys would be there, and Paul would kick people out. 1169 00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:47,820 One of the prerequisites to getting into the party 1170 00:56:47,904 --> 00:56:50,132 was you had to bring a two-by-four so you could destroy the place. 1171 00:56:50,156 --> 00:56:51,476 I remember grabbing a beer bottle 1172 00:56:51,574 --> 00:56:53,294 and just firing it straight at the fireplace 1173 00:56:53,451 --> 00:56:56,245 [chuckles] right when we walked in, and we just... it just erupted. 1174 00:56:56,537 --> 00:56:57,973 [Harald Oimen] He kind of got away with a bunch of stuff, 1175 00:56:57,997 --> 00:57:00,017 stuff that was kind of messed up actually, to be honest. 1176 00:57:00,041 --> 00:57:02,168 He handcuffed someone to a tree like this. 1177 00:57:03,336 --> 00:57:05,504 He let a live sewer rat loose in my house one time. 1178 00:57:05,796 --> 00:57:06,839 We'd cut people's hair. 1179 00:57:07,131 --> 00:57:09,467 If you had a Ratt pin. 1180 00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:10,759 And a Bon Jovi shirt. 1181 00:57:10,885 --> 00:57:12,362 A Motley Crue shirt or something like that. 1182 00:57:12,386 --> 00:57:14,239 [chuckles] He'd strip you right where you stood. 1183 00:57:14,263 --> 00:57:16,724 I'm gonna slice that shirt up. We'll slice you with it. 1184 00:57:17,016 --> 00:57:19,477 If that's all he did, they were lucky. [chuckles] 1185 00:57:19,769 --> 00:57:20,811 I remember his place. 1186 00:57:21,103 --> 00:57:24,106 He lived in just a... like a... He lived on a concrete slab. 1187 00:57:24,398 --> 00:57:25,638 His wolf lived with him, Bidor. 1188 00:57:25,816 --> 00:57:27,860 Bidor and Paul were pretty much inseparable. 1189 00:57:28,152 --> 00:57:29,362 He had a house-wrecking party. 1190 00:57:29,654 --> 00:57:32,281 Some pretty crazy shit happened at these parties. 1191 00:57:32,573 --> 00:57:33,866 A lot of beer, a lot of liquor. 1192 00:57:34,158 --> 00:57:35,158 Pictures getting smashed. 1193 00:57:35,368 --> 00:57:36,869 Walls being kicked in with holes. 1194 00:57:37,161 --> 00:57:40,373 Just slamming our arms down the hallways, just punching in all the plaster. 1195 00:57:44,835 --> 00:57:47,838 Houses dismantled, you know, piece by piece. 1196 00:57:51,425 --> 00:57:55,054 [Brian Posehn] Paul Baloff passed away following a stroke in 2002. 1197 00:57:55,554 --> 00:57:59,100 He's beloved by his friends and metal fans everywhere. 1198 00:58:01,894 --> 00:58:04,981 [Gary Holt] Paul, for what he lacked in pure musical talent, 1199 00:58:05,272 --> 00:58:07,984 he had all the drive and passion that you'd ever want, 1200 00:58:08,275 --> 00:58:10,653 could we have done more to keep him around? 1201 00:58:11,195 --> 00:58:14,031 Probably yeah, might've been a failure in attempting it. 1202 00:58:14,323 --> 00:58:15,992 I'm happy. I've got a million memories 1203 00:58:16,283 --> 00:58:21,747 and five billion photographs worth of fucking awesome times to look back on. 1204 00:58:23,749 --> 00:58:26,293 He's like the greatest thrash metal frontman of all time, 1205 00:58:26,585 --> 00:58:28,254 and he made one album, twice. 1206 00:58:38,222 --> 00:58:40,391 We were all by his bedside in the hospital, 1207 00:58:40,683 --> 00:58:43,853 and Rick and I lowered him into the ground, you know. 1208 00:58:44,395 --> 00:58:45,646 Fuck, you know, I miss him. 1209 00:58:51,027 --> 00:58:52,069 The legend. 1210 00:58:52,361 --> 00:58:54,155 - I miss him every day. - See you, buddy. 1211 00:59:01,537 --> 00:59:04,040 [Brian Posehn] In the mid 19805, Lars and James lived 1212 00:59:04,331 --> 00:59:07,209 at the infamous Metallica mansion in El Cerrito. 1213 00:59:07,835 --> 00:59:09,503 Yes, the Metalla-mansion, 1214 00:59:09,795 --> 00:59:13,507 and that is certainly not one of our cars right there. [chuckles] 1215 00:59:13,799 --> 00:59:16,135 That Porsche was not parked there because of us. 1216 00:59:16,761 --> 00:59:18,561 You know, at least with the Metallica mansion, 1217 00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:21,682 it was literally almost a straight shot back from Ruthie's Inn. 1218 00:59:21,974 --> 00:59:24,255 So, like, if there was a show or whatever at Ruthie's Inn, 1219 00:59:24,393 --> 00:59:28,230 it was a straight shot almost down San Pablo Avenue back to their house. 1220 00:59:28,564 --> 00:59:30,107 Definitely a bachelor pad. 1221 00:59:30,566 --> 00:59:32,526 You don't dare go into the bedrooms at all. 1222 00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:35,446 The front room's covered with posters and beer bottles. 1223 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:39,825 I remember pulling all the furniture out the front door right here 1224 00:59:40,117 --> 00:59:41,827 and hosting this party. 1225 00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,122 We left the turntable and maybe a couple chairs, maybe a couch, 1226 00:59:45,414 --> 00:59:48,459 and, uh, obviously the booze. [laughs] 1227 00:59:48,751 --> 00:59:51,045 80 music, booze, and we would just go insane. 1228 00:59:51,337 --> 00:59:54,173 Wrestling and have these crazy mosh pits in the house. 1229 00:59:54,465 --> 00:59:56,545 Usually we're out partying in the streets or whatnot, 1230 00:59:56,717 --> 00:59:59,845 so to actually have a place to go and hang out was pretty cool. 1231 01:00:05,643 --> 01:00:06,723 Even the Metallica house... 1232 01:00:06,936 --> 01:00:08,736 I think Exodus were there more than Metallica, 1233 01:00:08,854 --> 01:00:11,607 you know, 'cause they were already on tour constantly. 1234 01:00:11,899 --> 01:00:15,236 [Brian Posehn] While touring, lonely Metallica members wrote postcards 1235 01:00:15,528 --> 01:00:17,404 to keep in touch with the scene back home. 1236 01:00:17,696 --> 01:00:18,405 AWW. 1237 01:00:18,697 --> 01:00:20,092 [James Hetfield] Yeah, postcards, letters, 1238 01:00:20,116 --> 01:00:21,996 that was the only way you could keep in contact. 1239 01:00:22,076 --> 01:00:23,369 We'd get in town and, you know, 1240 01:00:23,661 --> 01:00:26,413 write down what's happening and... and just send it off. 1241 01:00:26,705 --> 01:00:29,542 All those early Ruthie's Inn shows 1242 01:00:29,834 --> 01:00:32,962 that were kind of laying the foundation for the Bay Area scene were happening. 1243 01:00:33,254 --> 01:00:36,257 Hey, John, how you doing? We're... You know... We're jamming and playing. 1244 01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:40,052 And... OK, we're going to go out and go party, go drinking. 1245 01:00:40,344 --> 01:00:41,464 And then you'd flip it over. 1246 01:00:41,929 --> 01:00:43,305 Hey, John, NS 2200 AM. 1247 01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:45,933 We're here. We're raging. We're getting drunk. 1248 01:00:46,225 --> 01:00:48,185 We're drinking beers and hanging out with Venom. 1249 01:00:48,602 --> 01:00:52,815 Metal up your ass, right-stack Marshall, Lars Ulrich, drummer in parentheses. 1250 01:00:53,107 --> 01:00:55,467 In hindsight, it was probably them dealing with all the shit 1251 01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:57,921 that was happening with them. You know, they were going to the next level, 1252 01:00:57,945 --> 01:00:59,446 thousand of miles away from home. 1253 01:00:59,738 --> 01:01:02,158 Being away from home, being away from your friends, 1254 01:01:02,449 --> 01:01:05,286 being a-away from your girlfriend. It was a big deal. 1255 01:01:05,578 --> 01:01:08,873 And they liked to write letters. You know, back then we all wrote letters. 1256 01:01:09,165 --> 01:01:12,293 Flying the flag for the Bay Area in San Francisco in the scene. 1257 01:01:12,585 --> 01:01:16,172 So it was important for us to, uh, stay in touch with everybody 1258 01:01:16,463 --> 01:01:18,174 that was back at home, holding the fort. 1259 01:01:18,465 --> 01:01:19,693 [James Hetfield] See if you know this one. 1260 01:01:19,717 --> 01:01:21,468 I want you all to scream it back at me! 1261 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,760 This is titled, 1262 01:01:22,928 --> 01:01:27,016 "Seek and Destroy!" 1263 01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:31,061 [playing "Seek and destroy"] 1264 01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:44,742 Cliff would write me really long letters from Copenhagen 1265 01:01:46,202 --> 01:01:48,495 in his horrible writing 1266 01:01:48,787 --> 01:01:51,999 and just talk about how good things were going. 1267 01:01:52,291 --> 01:01:53,626 This tour is great. 1268 01:01:54,835 --> 01:01:56,545 First Aardschok festival I called Lars. 1269 01:01:56,837 --> 01:02:01,008 If he wanted to open up for my festival because I thought it was a great band. 1270 01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,136 You know, I'd send them money for plane tickets and stuff. 1271 01:02:04,428 --> 01:02:06,031 [Andre Verhuysen] It definitely made a big impression. 1272 01:02:06,055 --> 01:02:09,725 You could already tell that these guys were going to go somewhere. 1273 01:02:10,017 --> 01:02:12,394 Everybody knew. I mean, we all knew. 1274 01:02:12,686 --> 01:02:15,272 Some old black and white pictures of Metallica at that show. 1275 01:02:15,564 --> 01:02:18,567 They were so nervous there around that time to do the show. 1276 01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:22,279 Even though, you know, they were away, they were still part of the scene. 1277 01:02:22,571 --> 01:02:24,740 You heard that the band was blowing people away, 1278 01:02:25,032 --> 01:02:26,712 just like they did when they started here. 1279 01:02:26,742 --> 01:02:29,745 ♪ Our brains are on fire With the feeling to kill ♪ 1280 01:02:30,037 --> 01:02:33,040 ♪ And it won't go away Until our dreams are fulfilled ♪ 1281 01:02:33,332 --> 01:02:35,876 ♪ There is only one thing on our minds ♪ 1282 01:02:36,168 --> 01:02:39,255 ♪ Don't try running away 'Cause you're the one we will find ♪ 1283 01:02:39,546 --> 01:02:40,798 ♪ Runn'mg On our way I 1284 01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:42,383 ♪ Hiding You will pay ♪ 1285 01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:44,551 ♪ Dying One thousand deaths ♪ 1286 01:02:46,053 --> 01:02:47,763 Lars said no. We didn't have the cover. 1287 01:02:48,055 --> 01:02:49,640 It was just Kirk on there. 1288 01:02:49,932 --> 01:02:51,642 Tapes were being copied the next day, 1289 01:02:51,934 --> 01:02:56,272 and they were sent to Germany, Belgium, France, all over the world. 1290 01:02:57,523 --> 01:02:59,024 ♪ Running On our way ♪ 1291 01:02:59,316 --> 01:03:00,526 ♪ Hiding You will pay ♪ 1292 01:03:00,818 --> 01:03:01,860 ♪ Dying ♪ 1293 01:03:04,488 --> 01:03:07,157 [Lars Ulrich] It wasn't really until James started getting 1294 01:03:07,449 --> 01:03:11,161 some European shows under his belt in the spring of 1984, 1295 01:03:11,495 --> 01:03:15,624 where he started being able to sort of command the big, European crowds. 1296 01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:18,419 That's when he became James Hetfield, the frontman. 1297 01:03:18,711 --> 01:03:21,380 Are we fucking nuts tonight! 1298 01:03:21,672 --> 01:03:23,215 [crowd cheering] 1299 01:03:23,507 --> 01:03:24,818 [James Hetfield] This was certainly not 1300 01:03:24,842 --> 01:03:27,094 the shy kid that was in high school, hating life. 1301 01:03:27,469 --> 01:03:31,181 This was the kid that finally found his voice 1302 01:03:31,473 --> 01:03:35,144 and got to be in a band that was able to help express it for him. 1303 01:03:38,856 --> 01:03:40,296 [Steffan Chirazi] We were very aware 1304 01:03:40,357 --> 01:03:42,077 there was something brewing in San Francisco 1305 01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:43,829 that was a little heavier, a little angrier. 1306 01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:46,864 Uh, Exodus, you know, were definitely part of that. 1307 01:03:47,156 --> 01:03:49,396 [Brian Posehn] Blown away by what he saw in the Bay Area, 1308 01:03:49,616 --> 01:03:52,202 Andre Verhuysen booked Exodus into the Dynamo Club. 1309 01:03:52,786 --> 01:03:56,248 The show has passed into legend spread by numerous bootlegs. 1310 01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:58,834 I want to dedicate this one to Andre over here. 1311 01:03:59,126 --> 01:04:01,086 Who's here because of Andre? 1312 01:04:01,378 --> 01:04:04,048 [Andre Verhuysen] That was Exodus's first tour of Europe. 1313 01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:06,800 The only club show they did was at the Dynamo, 1314 01:04:07,092 --> 01:04:09,970 and they did 300 or 350 people by themselves. 1315 01:04:10,262 --> 01:04:13,766 More people in there than I think officially were allowed, 1316 01:04:14,058 --> 01:04:15,517 maybe three times as much, 1317 01:04:15,809 --> 01:04:17,529 because everybody wanted to see those bands, 1318 01:04:17,686 --> 01:04:20,189 and Dynamo Club was the only place you could see them. 1319 01:04:20,647 --> 01:04:22,024 [thrash metal song playing] 1320 01:04:42,086 --> 01:04:45,714 From my pen pals, Brian Lew and Andy Airborne Anderson, 1321 01:04:46,006 --> 01:04:48,926 who was very close with Exodus, I got some live tapes, you know. 1322 01:04:49,218 --> 01:04:52,554 And we were fascinated. They were even faster than Metallica. 1323 01:04:52,846 --> 01:04:54,973 They were even a little bit more intense. 1324 01:04:55,265 --> 01:04:59,436 Word got out, and word by mouth is the strongest promotion that you can get. 1325 01:04:59,728 --> 01:05:01,648 [Brian Posehn] While Metallica were away touring, 1326 01:05:01,855 --> 01:05:03,941 Pam and Connie were house-sitting the mansion. 1327 01:05:04,233 --> 01:05:06,819 [Connie] We had sort of screwed up their finances along the way. 1328 01:05:07,111 --> 01:05:08,871 We weren't very good at balancing Checkbooks. 1329 01:05:09,113 --> 01:05:10,632 Mark had just left the checkbook and, uh... 1330 01:05:10,656 --> 01:05:13,117 He left a checkbook that was signed with checks, 1331 01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:17,204 and we were just supposed to deposit money and then give them the checks. 1332 01:05:17,496 --> 01:05:20,499 [Connie] I had to go to my very conservative, Republican mom and dad 1333 01:05:20,791 --> 01:05:23,001 and ask for them to bail out Metallica. 1334 01:05:23,293 --> 01:05:26,422 So I like to say that my mom, Mike and Carole Bryant 1335 01:05:26,713 --> 01:05:28,441 sort of saved the Metallica band. [chuckling] 1336 01:05:28,465 --> 01:05:30,300 - Sorry, guys. - So there you go. 1337 01:05:30,592 --> 01:05:32,886 - It all worked out. - It all worked out, yeah. 1338 01:05:35,013 --> 01:05:37,533 [Brian Posehn] New bands were rising everywhere in the Bay Area, 1339 01:05:37,766 --> 01:05:39,601 inspired by the scene they were living in. 1340 01:05:40,018 --> 01:05:44,064 Bands like Testament, Death Angel, Vio-lence, Forbidden, 1341 01:05:44,356 --> 01:05:46,817 and Possessed all made their mark on the metal scene. 1342 01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:50,487 Each year there'd be a band that would kind of step up 1343 01:05:50,779 --> 01:05:54,408 into the role of being able to headline a show at, say, Ruthie's or the Stone. 1344 01:05:54,825 --> 01:05:56,493 Metallica came out with Kill 'Em All, 1345 01:05:56,785 --> 01:05:58,745 and they were doing the Kill 'Em All For One tour. 1346 01:05:58,787 --> 01:06:00,307 We stood right on the edge of the pit, 1347 01:06:00,372 --> 01:06:05,461 and we head-banged for the entire fucking show when it was Cliff Burton, 1348 01:06:05,752 --> 01:06:07,629 and he's doing "Anesthesia Pulling Teeth." 1349 01:06:07,921 --> 01:06:09,715 We're like... These guys are fucking amazing. 1350 01:06:10,257 --> 01:06:12,509 And the whole way home it was like, 1351 01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:15,596 we're going to start a band, we're going to start playing shows, 1352 01:06:15,888 --> 01:06:17,128 and we're going to play thrash. 1353 01:06:17,514 --> 01:06:19,714 All those people would be going to the shows at Ruthie's 1354 01:06:19,850 --> 01:06:21,226 in the Bay Area clubs and stuff, 1355 01:06:21,643 --> 01:06:24,938 and, uh, basically they kind of looked up on stage and said... I can do that. 1356 01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:28,358 You always hear the old cats talk about the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, 1357 01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:31,296 and, you know, how they picked up a guitar after they saw that. 1358 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,364 That was my Beatles/Ed Sullivan moment, 1359 01:06:34,656 --> 01:06:37,826 but if we wanted to be something, if we wanted to matter, 1360 01:06:38,118 --> 01:06:40,078 we had to get into Ruthie's. 1361 01:06:40,370 --> 01:06:43,624 And if we could survive Ruthie's, and not get killed, 1362 01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:45,709 and not get booed off the stage, 1363 01:06:46,001 --> 01:06:47,841 and not get the mike ripped down in front of it 1364 01:06:48,003 --> 01:06:51,048 like people were prone to do, and survive the Slay Team, 1365 01:06:51,673 --> 01:06:53,509 then that would be the ultimate. 1366 01:06:56,220 --> 01:07:00,307 You can't tell the story of the San Francisco metal scene 1367 01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:03,143 without talking about Debbie Abono. 1368 01:07:03,435 --> 01:07:08,482 She managed one of the most hardcore bands to come out of the Bay Area, 1369 01:07:08,774 --> 01:07:12,361 which was Possessed, you know, super Satanic speed metal. 1370 01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:13,987 This is metal mom right here. 1371 01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:17,407 I know there's a few metal moms across the globe, 1372 01:07:17,783 --> 01:07:19,076 but this was ours. 1373 01:07:19,618 --> 01:07:21,662 I broke my leg at a DRI show. 1374 01:07:21,954 --> 01:07:23,994 She basically nursed me back to health at her house. 1375 01:07:24,248 --> 01:07:28,126 She was the mom of the scene, you know? Every show she'd be there for every band. 1376 01:07:28,919 --> 01:07:32,839 She lived at a house in Penol, and after parties we'd be at her house. 1377 01:07:33,131 --> 01:07:36,218 [Alex Skolnick] She really saw everybody in that scene as human, 1378 01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:39,137 whereas there was a lot of demonization... 1379 01:07:40,430 --> 01:07:43,308 of the... you know, the youth. 1380 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,603 She knew that we needed a safe place, 1381 01:07:46,895 --> 01:07:49,273 and Debbie Abono's house was always a safe place. 1382 01:07:49,565 --> 01:07:50,605 You know, a party would... 1383 01:07:50,732 --> 01:07:52,892 - Last a couple of days. [laughs] - Last a couple days. 1384 01:07:53,026 --> 01:07:55,106 I know sometimes I'd be going to school the next day, 1385 01:07:55,279 --> 01:07:59,908 walking through the people who were still hanging out at my house. 1386 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,345 [Nancy] They all knew that Debbie would take care of them 1387 01:08:02,369 --> 01:08:04,055 - if they didn't have anywhere to go. - [Julie] Mm-hmm. 1388 01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:05,974 [Rick Hunolt] The word-of—mouth kind of got... 'Cause you go... 1389 01:08:05,998 --> 01:08:07,958 Hey, I need this or I need that for my band. 1390 01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:09,930 And my mom would go out and get it for you. 1391 01:08:10,127 --> 01:08:11,920 For me personally, she helped me a ton. 1392 01:08:12,713 --> 01:08:15,757 I started taking guitar lessons from Joe Satriani. I couldn't afford it. 1393 01:08:16,049 --> 01:08:18,552 She paid for it, and, you know, I couldn't thank her enough. 1394 01:08:18,844 --> 01:08:21,114 There's no way I'd be anywhere I was right now without Debbie, 1395 01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:24,474 so, you know, I'm eternally grateful for everything she did. 1396 01:08:24,766 --> 01:08:28,687 For young, 16-year-old Larry Lalonde, he's in tenth grade in high school, 1397 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,559 and they have a record out. 1398 01:08:30,731 --> 01:08:34,860 You know, imagine being a tenth-grader, and you have an actual album. 1399 01:08:35,152 --> 01:08:37,487 And you're playing in clubs. 1400 01:08:37,779 --> 01:08:39,424 I remember kind of showing up at high school and going like... 1401 01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:41,509 "Hey, I've got a record," and them being like... "Yeah, big deal." 1402 01:08:41,533 --> 01:08:44,095 Like, people kind of being like... What, you think you're hot shit now? 1403 01:08:44,119 --> 01:08:46,997 Then... then she'd get tapes constantly in the mail. 1404 01:08:47,289 --> 01:08:49,708 She'd get hundreds of them from other bands, 1405 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,460 wanting her to manage them. 1406 01:08:51,752 --> 01:08:53,629 Really looked out for everybody, you know? 1407 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,049 And when she managed Forbidden, she... she would go on tour. 1408 01:08:57,341 --> 01:09:00,802 I think she was 57 years old when she was doing this. 1409 01:09:01,094 --> 01:09:04,556 I mean, just going out on tour in a van for two months across America 1410 01:09:04,848 --> 01:09:06,892 at 57 years old. 1411 01:09:07,184 --> 01:09:09,019 You know, like, that's fucking crazy. 1412 01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:13,815 And it's everything that... The horrors probably that you've heard of. 1413 01:09:14,107 --> 01:09:16,401 She put up with a lot of shenanigans from us, you know? 1414 01:09:16,693 --> 01:09:19,653 Uh, one time I guess they had, like, a porno magazine in the back of the... 1415 01:09:19,696 --> 01:09:20,696 In the back of the van, 1416 01:09:20,739 --> 01:09:24,576 and they, uh, taped a bunch of pictures to the inside windows of the van. 1417 01:09:24,868 --> 01:09:26,828 And we come pulling into a gas station, 1418 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,123 and here's this grandma, you know, this... this older lady, pulling in. 1419 01:09:30,415 --> 01:09:32,834 And then here's the most obscene pictures on the windows. 1420 01:09:33,126 --> 01:09:34,729 And she couldn't believe we'd do that stuff. 1421 01:09:34,753 --> 01:09:36,073 [rapid double-bass drums playing] 1422 01:09:37,547 --> 01:09:39,341 [guttural, growling vocals] 1423 01:09:50,977 --> 01:09:53,105 I always considered us the third wave of thrash. 1424 01:09:53,397 --> 01:09:56,566 So it's like Metallica, Slayer, and Exodus was the first wave. 1425 01:09:56,858 --> 01:10:00,362 And then Testament, Death Angel, and Vio-Ience, Forbidden. 1426 01:10:00,654 --> 01:10:04,700 I started auditioning and just went from band to band to band, you know? 1427 01:10:04,991 --> 01:10:06,743 And finally it clicked with Forbidden Evil. 1428 01:10:07,202 --> 01:10:09,538 A band that young could get a show at Ruthie's Inn, 1429 01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:11,581 and no one would bat an eye. 1430 01:10:11,873 --> 01:10:13,851 [Larry Lalonde] We're hanging out at, like, Ruthie's Inn and the Stone. 1431 01:10:13,875 --> 01:10:16,086 We're not supposed to be there, because we're 14. 1432 01:10:16,378 --> 01:10:20,549 My first show ever was November 24, 1984, Megadeth and Death Angel. 1433 01:10:20,841 --> 01:10:23,361 When they were loading in, you know, we were making fun of them. 1434 01:10:23,468 --> 01:10:25,468 Like, you know, your mom's driving you to the show. 1435 01:10:25,637 --> 01:10:26,888 Then we'd get all pissed off. 1436 01:10:27,180 --> 01:10:29,200 Why do they always refer to us as just so young and stuff 1437 01:10:29,224 --> 01:10:30,910 and just focusing on the fact that we're young? 1438 01:10:30,934 --> 01:10:33,979 It was hard to put a band together, especially if you're 15. 1439 01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:37,733 I also knew that if I could just get through one show, 1440 01:10:38,024 --> 01:10:40,318 it'll be a positive experience. I need to do this. 1441 01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:42,090 Alex history... I'm sure he told you. 1442 01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:44,531 You know, he's 15 and didn't have teenage years. 1443 01:10:44,823 --> 01:10:48,577 He toured the whole time, you know, from the first record to the fifth record. 1444 01:10:48,869 --> 01:10:51,288 We did a record every year and toured ever year: 1445 01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:52,580 five records, five years. 1446 01:10:52,998 --> 01:10:56,251 [Brian Posehn] Possessed is credited with starting the death metal genre. 1447 01:10:56,543 --> 01:10:58,896 [Larry Lalonde] You know, the whole Satanic theme was kind of funny. 1448 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,680 I don't think anyone was actually into Satan. 1449 01:11:00,714 --> 01:11:03,383 It just freaked people out, so. [laughs] 1450 01:11:04,092 --> 01:11:05,594 [guitar riff playing] 1451 01:11:12,893 --> 01:11:14,269 [Brian Posehn] In August 1985, 1452 01:11:14,561 --> 01:11:18,148 Metallica played Bill Graham's legendary Day on the Green festival. 1453 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,902 On a bill that featured Scorpions and Yngwie Malmsteen, 1454 01:11:22,194 --> 01:11:23,987 Metallica stole the show. 1455 01:11:24,488 --> 01:11:26,531 I was there. It was insane. 1456 01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:30,452 Did we all come here to kick some fucking ass or what? 1457 01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:34,748 The fact that Metallica got a chance to play at Donington 1458 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,000 and then two weeks later at Day on the Green 1459 01:11:37,292 --> 01:11:39,377 was just a total mind fuck. 1460 01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:42,589 Me, what I remember is going in there kind of cold, 1461 01:11:42,881 --> 01:11:44,341 not really knowing what's going on 1462 01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:50,096 but blown away at the consumer satisfaction. 1463 01:11:50,388 --> 01:11:56,228 The audience had so fervently embraced this from the minute that band set stage 1464 01:11:56,603 --> 01:12:00,023 that it wasn't even a matter of whether I understood it or not. 1465 01:12:00,315 --> 01:12:02,859 I could tell that these people understood it, 1466 01:12:03,151 --> 01:12:05,779 and I witnessed the extraordinary fervor and enthusiasm. 1467 01:12:06,071 --> 01:12:07,823 It was hard not to be swept up in it. 1468 01:12:08,114 --> 01:12:11,368 [Alex Skolnick] With most other bands, bass is sort of a background role, 1469 01:12:12,744 --> 01:12:14,871 but with that version of Metallica, 1470 01:12:15,288 --> 01:12:16,748 it was featured. 1471 01:12:20,001 --> 01:12:22,838 Cliff had a very serious attack to his strings. 1472 01:12:23,129 --> 01:12:26,341 His technique was very abrasive, and there was a lot of power in it. 1473 01:12:26,633 --> 01:12:29,678 It was almost like this punk attitude coming out of his fingertips, 1474 01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:34,266 and yet he was very graceful with his connection to classical music. 1475 01:12:36,309 --> 01:12:38,562 [playing heavily distorted bass] 1476 01:12:46,111 --> 01:12:49,906 It can't be overstated what a huge moment that was 1477 01:12:50,198 --> 01:12:53,660 for not just Metallica but for the whole Bay Area scene. 1478 01:12:53,952 --> 01:12:56,055 The fact that Metallica were playing at Day on the Green, 1479 01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:58,119 it was like all of us were playing Day on the Green. 1480 01:12:58,373 --> 01:13:01,001 [James Hetfield] Day on the Green has been around since the 70s. 1481 01:13:01,334 --> 01:13:04,963 For us to be asked to be part of it. Didn't care where we were on the bill. 1482 01:13:05,255 --> 01:13:10,802 Ratt was placed above Metallica, which was sacrilegious, to say the least. 1483 01:13:11,094 --> 01:13:14,890 So I painted this banner with, you know, Metallica logo 1484 01:13:15,181 --> 01:13:18,602 crushing down on this rat that was flipped upside down 1485 01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,437 with a little spiked wristband, 1486 01:13:20,729 --> 01:13:22,929 and it was sitting next to a thing that said rat poison. 1487 01:13:23,648 --> 01:13:28,778 And I got berated by a couple overweight ladies in spandex. 1488 01:13:29,195 --> 01:13:32,073 You know, fucking Metallica came out, and they just took over. 1489 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,121 As soon as they got on stage, it was the stone in the pond. 1490 01:13:38,997 --> 01:13:43,001 Concentric circles of violence spread throughout. 1491 01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:47,130 I remember standing there stage left and going there's Metallica, 1492 01:13:47,422 --> 01:13:48,798 and there's 60,000 people. 1493 01:13:49,090 --> 01:13:51,801 It's 1985. It's like, yeah, this is really cool. 1494 01:13:52,093 --> 01:13:55,430 ♪ Make his fight on the hill In the early day ♪ 1495 01:13:55,722 --> 01:13:57,766 ♪ Constant chill deep inside ♪ 1496 01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:02,395 I don't think anyone had seen a mosh pit, 1497 01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:05,774 and it didn't occur to me to go, "And there's going to be a mosh pit." 1498 01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:10,987 ♪ For whom the bell tolls ♪ 1499 01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:15,450 So for the both of us, to be there onstage on Day on the Green, 1500 01:14:15,742 --> 01:14:17,744 it was a huge accomplishment. 1501 01:14:21,247 --> 01:14:24,834 [James Hetfield] The whole metal community was excited and supporting us, 1502 01:14:25,126 --> 01:14:28,713 especially for Cliff, being from the Bay Area, 1503 01:14:29,047 --> 01:14:30,173 it was like heaven for him. 1504 01:14:30,465 --> 01:14:34,052 [woman] Everyone knows about that worldwide, so, he was excited. 1505 01:14:40,392 --> 01:14:43,603 After the Day on the Green show, we did our normal stuff, you know? 1506 01:14:43,895 --> 01:14:46,356 James and I went out to the crowd to throw fruit. 1507 01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:48,608 Fred Rotten Cotton and a few of the others, 1508 01:14:49,275 --> 01:14:51,820 you know, had some beverages and just went crazy. 1509 01:14:52,112 --> 01:14:55,907 Took avocados and crammed through, uh, vents. Air-conditioning vents. 1510 01:14:56,199 --> 01:14:57,839 Just wrecked the backstage dressing room. 1511 01:14:57,867 --> 01:14:59,953 You know, you're supposed to trash shit, you know. 1512 01:15:00,370 --> 01:15:01,450 So we did. We destroyed it. 1513 01:15:02,747 --> 01:15:05,083 [phone ringing] 1514 01:15:06,751 --> 01:15:09,879 I called the Metallica house, and James answered the phone. 1515 01:15:10,338 --> 01:15:13,133 I was like, "We... [chuckles] We're in trouble." 1516 01:15:13,425 --> 01:15:18,179 Had no clue that, you know, there's a... There's another day after ours. 1517 01:15:18,471 --> 01:15:20,311 You know, another band has to use your trailer. 1518 01:15:20,932 --> 01:15:23,309 You're going to have to go over there and talk to Bill. 1519 01:15:23,601 --> 01:15:25,812 I was like... Oh, shit. Like I'm being called in. 1520 01:15:26,104 --> 01:15:29,858 He sat me down and said, "Hey, I know you're a rock and roll band at heart, 1521 01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:32,503 and, you know, breaking shit and destroying things, you know, 1522 01:15:32,527 --> 01:15:33,838 it might be fun for a little bit." 1523 01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:35,822 What would you do if... 1524 01:15:36,114 --> 01:15:38,366 people came in your home and behaved this way? 1525 01:15:38,658 --> 01:15:41,953 And James goes, "Well, pretty much they do every weekend." 1526 01:15:42,245 --> 01:15:44,098 [James Hetfield] I didn't quite get what he was trying to say. 1527 01:15:44,122 --> 01:15:47,709 And he said, "You guys are talented, and you're on a path to destruction." 1528 01:15:48,001 --> 01:15:49,044 He knew. 1529 01:15:49,335 --> 01:15:53,965 He said, "I've had this same talk with Sid Vicious and with Keith Moon, 1530 01:15:54,507 --> 01:15:56,342 and they didn't listen. 1531 01:15:58,762 --> 01:16:00,430 Maybe you'll listen, maybe not." 1532 01:16:00,847 --> 01:16:04,225 What really happened was James totally manned up, 1533 01:16:04,976 --> 01:16:07,270 and Bill completely respected it. 1534 01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:10,315 [James Hetfield] So I said, "You know, I'm young. I'm stupid. 1535 01:16:10,607 --> 01:16:13,151 And thanks for that. 1536 01:16:13,735 --> 01:16:15,904 I appreciate the talk, and I'll do my best." 1537 01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:19,032 Years later he would go to me, "How's James?" 1538 01:16:19,324 --> 01:16:21,951 I'm like... Well, I haven't really talked to him lately, 1539 01:16:22,243 --> 01:16:23,243 but I'm sure he's fine. 1540 01:16:23,828 --> 01:16:27,248 To this day I still never said thank you to him, 1541 01:16:27,582 --> 01:16:29,918 because it did enlighten me a little bit. 1542 01:16:30,210 --> 01:16:32,754 He made it right to the best of his ability. 1543 01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:36,091 The next time we came to play in the backstage area, 1544 01:16:36,382 --> 01:16:40,345 he put Visqueen, Clear plastic, over everything. 1545 01:16:40,845 --> 01:16:44,849 The ceiling, the walls, the floor, the table. 1546 01:16:45,141 --> 01:16:47,894 He even wrapped bottles of beer in it, so... 1547 01:16:48,186 --> 01:16:50,522 [laughs] it would be protected. 1548 01:16:50,814 --> 01:16:54,526 [Brian Posehn] 1986 was an ear-shattering year for thrash metal. 1549 01:16:54,818 --> 01:16:56,903 Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer, 1550 01:16:57,195 --> 01:17:00,532 followed by Anthrax, all released landmark albums. 1551 01:17:01,032 --> 01:17:03,201 I was asking Lars where this was taken, 1552 01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:06,663 and he says, "I'm pretty sure it was in Copenhagen." 1553 01:17:15,046 --> 01:17:20,218 He would wake up and put on his little boxer shorts. 1554 01:17:20,510 --> 01:17:23,429 And he had a little amp and his white guitar. 1555 01:17:23,721 --> 01:17:25,401 And it looked like a Gibson, but it wasn't. 1556 01:17:25,557 --> 01:17:26,557 And he would play. 1557 01:17:28,601 --> 01:17:30,311 He could not wait to get on the road. 1558 01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:34,707 And Cliff was excited. As much as he didn't want to go to Europe, 1559 01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:35,816 It was a short tour. 1560 01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:37,819 He wanted me to look at houses. 1561 01:17:38,111 --> 01:17:41,239 At this point we had really developed and we were going to live together. 1562 01:17:41,906 --> 01:17:45,535 So he wanted me to look at houses just around, in the East Bay. 1563 01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:48,496 [Brian Posehn] On September 26th, 1986, 1564 01:17:48,788 --> 01:17:51,249 Metallica played a show in Stockholm, Sweden 1565 01:17:51,541 --> 01:17:53,459 supported by their friends, Anthrax. 1566 01:17:53,918 --> 01:17:56,087 Anthrax went on ahead to the next show. 1567 01:17:56,796 --> 01:17:58,131 Metallica never made it. 1568 01:17:58,798 --> 01:18:01,176 In the early hours of September 27th, 1569 01:18:01,467 --> 01:18:04,429 their tour bus crashed, and Cliff Burton was killed. 1570 01:18:05,305 --> 01:18:07,015 He was 24 years old. 1571 01:18:08,349 --> 01:18:12,437 I went home and started calling Cliff in Sweden at the hotel. 1572 01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:13,855 I had the itinerary. 1573 01:18:15,064 --> 01:18:16,608 Oh, no, they haven't checked in yet. 1574 01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:18,610 OK, that's weird. 1575 01:18:21,696 --> 01:18:23,239 Try again an hour later. 1576 01:18:25,742 --> 01:18:27,035 That's when she told me. 1577 01:18:27,327 --> 01:18:28,578 And I... 1578 01:18:29,162 --> 01:18:32,790 It just... It was... It wasn't even real. It wasn't possible. 1579 01:18:33,082 --> 01:18:34,959 So I immediately called Cliff's parents. 1580 01:18:37,712 --> 01:18:39,714 I didn't want to be with anyone else, you know, 1581 01:18:40,006 --> 01:18:44,052 wanted to be with his parents and smell his things. 1582 01:18:46,012 --> 01:18:48,014 [Cliff] We don't sit back and... and say, 1583 01:18:48,306 --> 01:18:51,976 Oh, I hope we're big next year or I hope this or hope that. 1584 01:18:52,268 --> 01:18:55,438 We just go and do it and don't put a lot of thought into... 1585 01:18:56,272 --> 01:18:58,358 what might happen or what could happen. 1586 01:18:58,816 --> 01:19:00,944 We try not to think too much about the future. 1587 01:19:04,489 --> 01:19:07,116 [James Hetfield] Cliff was such a character, 1588 01:19:07,408 --> 01:19:10,078 and he was with us for that short amount of time. 1589 01:19:11,371 --> 01:19:13,122 Thank God there were some people filming 1590 01:19:13,414 --> 01:19:15,458 and there were friends around that had cameras. 1591 01:19:17,043 --> 01:19:19,128 To respect that time greatly. 1592 01:19:20,505 --> 01:19:23,299 I am so glad that he was in my life 1593 01:19:23,591 --> 01:19:26,010 and I got to share... Share some times with him. 1594 01:19:26,594 --> 01:19:29,180 Someone so close and someone who... 1595 01:19:30,473 --> 01:19:32,392 I saw my future with. 1596 01:19:33,142 --> 01:19:35,270 And it was... it was awful. 1597 01:19:35,561 --> 01:19:36,688 It was just awful. 1598 01:19:36,980 --> 01:19:39,440 Most of us were so young b-back then that we, uh... 1599 01:19:39,732 --> 01:19:41,401 we really hadn't dealt with death before. 1600 01:19:42,652 --> 01:19:45,780 [Tim Healy] The first thing I did, I got up, and I headed out to the Vault, 1601 01:19:46,072 --> 01:19:47,952 because I was working the next day at the store. 1602 01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:50,493 From the minute that we opened the door, 1603 01:19:50,785 --> 01:19:53,079 it was a constant flood of people coming in. 1604 01:19:53,663 --> 01:19:56,165 It was the place where people came to grieve. 1605 01:19:56,457 --> 01:20:00,169 It was the place were people came to reflect and tell stories. 1606 01:20:00,628 --> 01:20:04,132 And it was almost the perfect place to find out, 1607 01:20:04,424 --> 01:20:07,927 because it was home for all of the scene, 1608 01:20:08,219 --> 01:20:10,430 also for him and those guys. 1609 01:20:11,764 --> 01:20:17,437 What made us survive it was that community of those... those thrashers. 1610 01:20:18,313 --> 01:20:22,734 [Erik Lannon] No one ever thought about the perils of rock and roll 1611 01:20:23,026 --> 01:20:27,363 or the fact that tour buses crash and, you know, people die out there 1612 01:20:27,655 --> 01:20:32,827 doing what we were all aspired to do, and doing what he ultimately loved. 1613 01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:35,204 I know we felt bad, 1614 01:20:35,496 --> 01:20:38,666 but I could only imagine what each one of them personally felt. 1615 01:20:39,542 --> 01:20:42,170 Yeah, it was a terrible time. A terrible thing. 1616 01:20:44,172 --> 01:20:47,383 [Mustaine] What I know about Cliff was that he was a very gentle soul, 1617 01:20:47,675 --> 01:20:50,762 and we laughed. 1618 01:20:51,137 --> 01:20:52,347 Man, we would laugh. 1619 01:20:52,972 --> 01:20:55,433 You can't ask more from your kids, 1620 01:20:55,975 --> 01:21:01,105 particularly when you... You don't have to say much to them. 1621 01:21:01,397 --> 01:21:04,567 They, uh... Cliff would just decide... 1622 01:21:04,859 --> 01:21:07,528 He knew on his own what was right and what was wrong, 1623 01:21:08,613 --> 01:21:10,073 and he... 1624 01:21:10,823 --> 01:21:14,243 practiced it just like he'd practice his music. 1625 01:21:14,535 --> 01:21:15,535 [chuckles] 1626 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,669 People forget what you do this. 1627 01:21:23,961 --> 01:21:28,674 It's because think back to those days when you guys were in a shitty rehearsal room. 1628 01:21:28,966 --> 01:21:31,761 Nothing else mattered but just making something. 1629 01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:33,346 That's all you lived for. 1630 01:21:33,971 --> 01:21:36,451 80 Metal Allegiance, we're just the guys from the neighborhood. 1631 01:21:36,557 --> 01:21:38,911 We're the friends that all shared the same record collection. 1632 01:21:38,935 --> 01:21:40,269 It was just a great spirit. 1633 01:21:40,561 --> 01:21:43,356 And, uh, we... we said, you know, maybe we should make a record. 1634 01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:44,792 [chuckles] Just to see what it sounds like 1635 01:21:44,816 --> 01:21:47,296 if all of us can actually write and record some music together. 1636 01:21:52,490 --> 01:21:54,492 The marching orders for that record, though, 1637 01:21:54,784 --> 01:21:56,303 is we're writing a thrash metal record. 1638 01:21:56,327 --> 01:21:58,538 Obviously Alex is involved in that scene. 1639 01:21:58,955 --> 01:22:00,123 We're getting Mark Osegueda, 1640 01:22:00,998 --> 01:22:02,792 Gary Holt, and Chuck Billy. 1641 01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:04,877 We're getting the Bay Area's best. 1642 01:22:05,169 --> 01:22:08,673 You would hope this happens everywhere, 1643 01:22:08,965 --> 01:22:10,734 but we're like, you know, do you think it does? 1644 01:22:10,758 --> 01:22:12,844 Like, no, it's the Bay Area. It's a special place, 1645 01:22:13,136 --> 01:22:15,972 and we've got some special people that are backing each other. 1646 01:22:16,597 --> 01:22:20,184 ♪ Staring me in my eyes You can't kill the devil ♪ 1647 01:22:20,476 --> 01:22:21,144 ♪ No ♪ 1648 01:22:21,436 --> 01:22:23,062 ♪ Cause evil always lies ♪ 1649 01:22:23,354 --> 01:22:25,773 ♪ Strength, determination ♪ 1650 01:22:26,065 --> 01:22:28,151 ♪ Finding freedom in my children's soul ♪ 1651 01:22:28,443 --> 01:22:30,486 ♪ My time has come, my time is now ♪ 1652 01:22:30,778 --> 01:22:33,030 ♪ Justice served on fictitious vows ♪ 1653 01:22:34,740 --> 01:22:35,740 ♪ Kill ♪ 1654 01:22:36,075 --> 01:22:37,075 ♪ Kill ♪ 1655 01:22:37,368 --> 01:22:38,368 ♪ Kill ♪ 1656 01:22:38,661 --> 01:22:39,661 ♪ Kill ♪ 1657 01:22:45,710 --> 01:22:47,938 Why don't we ever get to do any jams with people, you know? 1658 01:22:47,962 --> 01:22:50,673 And I got approached, I'm like... Absolutely, please. 1659 01:22:51,048 --> 01:22:53,759 ♪ Pledging your allegiance Look me in the face ♪ 1660 01:22:54,051 --> 01:22:56,554 ♪ Walking through flooded gates Show your true disgrace ♪ 1661 01:22:56,846 --> 01:22:59,307 ♪ Flash a tearless smile Going to great lengths ♪ 1662 01:22:59,599 --> 01:23:02,435 ♪ Covering that broken fear I keep gaining strength ♪ 1663 01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:07,607 ♪ I keep gaining strength ♪ 1664 01:23:07,940 --> 01:23:13,571 ♪ Drowning in your fear ♪ 1665 01:23:13,863 --> 01:23:15,990 ♪ Say your pledge ♪ 1666 01:23:16,699 --> 01:23:18,951 ♪ Nothing you can do ♪ 1667 01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:21,913 ♪ Pledge your allegiance ♪ 1668 01:23:22,413 --> 01:23:24,582 ♪ Hiding is all you ♪ 1669 01:23:24,916 --> 01:23:28,836 ♪ Pledge of Allegiance, yeah ♪ 1670 01:23:30,046 --> 01:23:31,297 [Brian Posehn] Since the 19805, 1671 01:23:31,589 --> 01:23:33,883 thrash metal music that was nurtured in the Bay Area 1672 01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:35,801 extended its reach around the globe, 1673 01:23:36,093 --> 01:23:39,222 inspiring metal fans everywhere to crank it up. 1674 01:23:43,392 --> 01:23:45,144 [fast-paced guitar riff playing] 1675 01:24:01,077 --> 01:24:02,077 [Brian Posehn] In 2013, 1676 01:24:02,203 --> 01:24:05,706 Gary Holt replaced the late, great Jeff Hanneman in Slayer. 1677 01:24:05,998 --> 01:24:07,166 It's kind of weird, you know? 1678 01:24:07,458 --> 01:24:11,087 I got the call from Kerry to help them out, you know. 1679 01:24:11,379 --> 01:24:14,298 People who don't know the background between the two bands will ask me... 1680 01:24:14,590 --> 01:24:17,630 Wow, how's it feel to be playing with such metal legends? They're my buddies. 1681 01:24:17,718 --> 01:24:21,973 I think metal fans are the most devoted of any fans there are. 1682 01:24:22,265 --> 01:24:23,992 They're not fickle. They like what they like, 1683 01:24:24,016 --> 01:24:26,769 and I think a Slayer fan is that fan times ten. 1684 01:24:28,271 --> 01:24:29,748 [Tom Ara ya] To me it's about humility, 1685 01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:31,857 and I'm more humbled by the fact that people 1686 01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:34,110 have such an admiration for the band. 1687 01:24:34,402 --> 01:24:36,004 You hear stories about some of these people 1688 01:24:36,028 --> 01:24:39,240 that, uh... your music made me strong and held me together 1689 01:24:39,532 --> 01:24:41,367 to get past a certain point in my life. 1690 01:24:41,867 --> 01:24:43,119 I'm very grateful for that. 1691 01:24:44,829 --> 01:24:46,289 You're getting me all teary-eyed. 1692 01:24:46,581 --> 01:24:48,082 [laughs] 1693 01:24:55,089 --> 01:24:57,508 [Brian Posehn] In 2017, Megadeth won the Grammy 1694 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,803 for best metal performance for their album, Dystopia. 1695 01:25:01,095 --> 01:25:02,415 [Mustaine] One thing is for sure, 1696 01:25:02,597 --> 01:25:05,266 This community has a way of taking care of its own. 1697 01:25:05,808 --> 01:25:08,936 I'm honored that the fans still like what we're doing. 1698 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,647 It's great to hear. It feels good. 1699 01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:14,317 [speaking Spanish] 1700 01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:21,616 Oh, my God! 1701 01:25:21,907 --> 01:25:23,117 [whooping] 1702 01:25:23,576 --> 01:25:25,494 - Like wrestlers. - We're wrestlers. 1703 01:25:26,871 --> 01:25:29,957 [James Hetfield] When we put on our instruments, we're like teenagers again. 1704 01:25:30,249 --> 01:25:32,460 We have a good time. We joke around. We laugh. 1705 01:25:32,877 --> 01:25:35,129 Everything we do revolves around the jam. 1706 01:25:35,421 --> 01:25:37,089 There seems to be a certain energy 1707 01:25:37,381 --> 01:25:39,842 and magic that's very pure about this music. 1708 01:25:41,886 --> 01:25:43,471 [Brian Posehn] In 2016, 1709 01:25:43,763 --> 01:25:46,265 Metallica released Hardwired... to Self-Destruct 1710 01:25:46,557 --> 01:25:48,809 to massive critical and commercial acclaim. 1711 01:25:49,518 --> 01:25:52,480 We are super grateful to still be where we are, you know? 1712 01:25:52,772 --> 01:25:56,525 We're in Mexico City right here playing in front of 60,000 to 70,000 people 1713 01:25:56,817 --> 01:25:57,817 in one show. 1714 01:25:58,235 --> 01:25:59,235 It blows my mind. 1715 01:25:59,904 --> 01:26:01,614 [crowd cheering, chanting] 1716 01:26:03,115 --> 01:26:06,155 [James Hetfield] It's pretty remarkable for bands like Megadeth, and Anthrax, 1717 01:26:06,285 --> 01:26:09,747 and Slayer, and Exodus... Still around and still playing gigs. 1718 01:26:10,247 --> 01:26:13,459 I tell you, whatever you think is going to happen to you, 1719 01:26:13,751 --> 01:26:15,836 you have no fricking idea. You just don't. 1720 01:26:16,128 --> 01:26:19,632 If it wasn't for Cliff and wasn't for, you know, those early Metallica records, 1721 01:26:19,924 --> 01:26:21,777 you know, I would not be there, that's for sure, 1722 01:26:21,801 --> 01:26:23,361 and there would be no Metal Allegiance. 1723 01:26:24,136 --> 01:26:28,391 Cliff was a fun bass player, and you can feel that onstage. 1724 01:26:28,683 --> 01:26:32,353 For me, I'm honored and blessed to be able to play his bass lines 1725 01:26:32,645 --> 01:26:36,482 and celebrate him and his bass playing to the world. 1726 01:26:36,774 --> 01:26:37,774 All over the world. 1727 01:26:38,025 --> 01:26:39,694 To take it there and share it. 1728 01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:42,071 [playing distorted bass riff] 1729 01:27:03,759 --> 01:27:07,513 If you and I were sitting in 1982, 1730 01:27:07,805 --> 01:27:10,975 having a conversation about the East Bay days, 1731 01:27:11,267 --> 01:27:15,646 obviously nobody at that time would ever slow down long enough 1732 01:27:15,938 --> 01:27:18,524 to believe that the music could have 1733 01:27:18,816 --> 01:27:22,319 and the scene could have that kind of impact and that kind of longevity. 1734 01:27:22,862 --> 01:27:24,902 [Sven Soderlund] There's a shirt that says, I think, 1735 01:27:25,072 --> 01:27:27,199 "Four Albums And Still No Ballad!" 1736 01:27:27,491 --> 01:27:29,845 And they meant that, because they weren't about that, you know? 1737 01:27:29,869 --> 01:27:30,887 They weren't going to do it. 1738 01:27:30,911 --> 01:27:32,631 I love those guys. They're still my friends. 1739 01:27:32,872 --> 01:27:34,206 They're like my brothers. 1740 01:27:37,001 --> 01:27:39,253 We didn't invent music. We didn't invent metal. 1741 01:27:39,545 --> 01:27:40,796 We just took what we loved, 1742 01:27:41,505 --> 01:27:44,300 and, you know, we stood on the backs of giants 1743 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,844 and put our own two cents in. 1744 01:27:47,136 --> 01:27:49,096 That's all we did, and out came thrash metal. 1745 01:27:52,016 --> 01:27:57,897 It was a real happening that had real far-reaching, uh, impacts 1746 01:27:59,064 --> 01:28:01,066 over music culture over time. 1747 01:28:04,904 --> 01:28:06,264 [Gary Holt] See, this wasn't here. 1748 01:28:06,405 --> 01:28:09,116 I'm wondering if the stage was kind of where the bathroom was. 1749 01:28:09,950 --> 01:28:12,536 I think it was, and this wall was... was exposed. 1750 01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:17,625 You know, we're talking, like, you know, 35 years ago and shit or more. 1751 01:28:17,917 --> 01:28:20,503 I'm surprised how nice the park looks. It's pretty awesome. 1752 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,315 [Tom Hunting] We did a lot of cover tunes. We did "Gets Your Rocks Off" 1753 01:28:23,339 --> 01:28:25,883 by Def Leppard and "Wasted" by Def Leppard. 1754 01:28:26,175 --> 01:28:27,885 Half of the first Maiden album. 1755 01:28:28,177 --> 01:28:30,971 Our friend bought Iron Maiden I just because of the cover. 1756 01:28:31,263 --> 01:28:34,517 It was so fresh and new back then that a lot of people thought "Running Free" 1757 01:28:34,809 --> 01:28:36,449 was an Exodus original for a little while. 1758 01:28:36,477 --> 01:28:39,021 We're like, no, sorry. Can't take credit for that one. 1759 01:28:39,313 --> 01:28:42,024 Yeah, "Prowler." Like, I love that song "Prowler." 1760 01:28:42,817 --> 01:28:43,817 That song rocks. 1761 01:28:44,026 --> 01:28:46,213 Kirk used to sing "Another Piece of Me" by the Scorpions. 1762 01:28:46,237 --> 01:28:49,406 That was in my high school band room, back when I still went to school. 1763 01:28:50,741 --> 01:28:54,245 [Kirk Hammett] It was a perfect storm of all the people that we needed 1764 01:28:54,537 --> 01:28:58,415 to form a long-lasting musical scene that went on to do great things, 1765 01:28:59,083 --> 01:29:02,670 and the amazing thing about it is we were all young, innocent, 1766 01:29:02,962 --> 01:29:04,672 and didn't know what the fuck we were doing 1767 01:29:04,964 --> 01:29:06,215 or where it all was going. 1768 01:29:06,507 --> 01:29:07,633 It just happened. 1769 01:29:08,676 --> 01:29:10,636 It was like... It was like from... From heaven. 1770 01:29:12,388 --> 01:29:14,974 It was one of the greatest times of my life. 1771 01:29:25,025 --> 01:29:26,986 You know, I was telling somebody this morning 1772 01:29:27,278 --> 01:29:28,863 that I thought Metallica played here. 1773 01:29:29,154 --> 01:29:30,948 No, no. Kirk Hammett from Metallica, 1774 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,660 when he was a member of our band Exodus, played here when we were 16 years old. 1775 01:29:34,952 --> 01:29:36,495 - No, you guys are Exodus? - Yeah. 1776 01:29:36,787 --> 01:29:38,038 I've been a fan forever. 1777 01:29:38,330 --> 01:29:39,999 That is so awesome. You're back. 1778 01:29:40,291 --> 01:29:43,002 [Brian Posehn] Exodus continue to play on around the world, 1779 01:29:43,294 --> 01:29:45,838 and still no fucking ballads! 1780 01:29:46,130 --> 01:29:49,633 ["Heart and Soul" playing] 1781 01:29:49,925 --> 01:29:52,887 ♪ All alone in the dead of night ♪ 1782 01:29:53,178 --> 01:29:56,348 ♪ My worst nightmare is coming true ♪ 1783 01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,853 ♪ Soon they'll come for me With one single kiss ♪ 1784 01:30:01,145 --> 01:30:04,398 ♪ I stand accused You put me down ♪ 1785 01:30:04,690 --> 01:30:08,235 ♪ But I forgive this thorny crown ♪ 1786 01:31:19,515 --> 01:31:22,226 ♪ Pledge my heart and soul ♪ 1787 01:31:23,185 --> 01:31:25,688 ♪ Pledge my heart and soul ♪ 1788 01:31:27,022 --> 01:31:29,692 ♪ Pledge my heart and soul ♪ 1789 01:31:30,943 --> 01:31:35,531 ♪ Pledge my heart, my heart and soul ♪ 148733

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