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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,880 Stephen Fry is one of Britain's most-recognised public figures. 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,000 He's enormously popular and successful. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,320 I know it's been...a very tough year for many of you. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,480 What with the shock of both George Clooney and me 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,720 being removed from the matrimonial market. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,240 7 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:24,760 He also has a mental illness that four-million other people 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,480 in Britain struggle with. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,640 Looking back on it, can you think about what started it for you? 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,840 Where did it start to go wrong? 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,840 Just some feeling came over me that this was...this was the end. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,640 This was the time to bring the curtain down, to finish. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,720 There was nothing on Earth to live for. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Ten years ago, Stephen made a groundbreaking series 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,240 that explored this condition. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,760 'There's no doubt that I do have...extremes of mood 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,960 'that are greater than just about anybody else I know.' 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,880 I'm fully aware I'm a very awful person to be with. 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,760 I find it difficult to meet people's eyes. 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,840 I find it very difficult to connect with people. I find it very... 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,400 I just want to be alone, frankly. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaking openly for the first time, he encouraged others to do the same. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,560 My father actually killed himself just over there, actually. 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,400 So, er...it's not...it's not the best place. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,600 The programme's had a huge impact 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,960 and helped start a more open conversation 27 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,200 about living with manic depression, 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,000 or bipolar, as it's now called. 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,120 I so very much bitterly resent having manic depression. 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,000 I wish I could say otherwise, but that's how I feel. 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,240 The series also urged that, as a society, we do more to help. 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,440 So, ten years on, have we? 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,960 And do we understand bipolar better? 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,400 HE SINGS 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,400 The entire world is looking at you 36 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 predominantly, 70%, like, "You're a fool". 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Alien. Wow! 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Is treatment for bipolar better? 39 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,800 He went to the doctors 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,040 and he was prescribed some antidepressants of some sort. 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,520 One sent him worse than ever 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,920 and the other, he just was like a zombie. 43 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:26,960 I had a week where I had no feelings and no emotions and, you know, 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,680 that was a concern for me. 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Is it any easier for young people now to admit they have bipolar? 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,280 'Shared it on Facebook. The response I had was just amazing. 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,720 'I never expected that.' 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,360 And it would just say positive comments and messages and emails. 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,200 And how is Stephen coping a decade later? 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,240 You will have this for the rest of your life, in my view. 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,560 What you're not talking about is curing me. 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,160 I do think the medication will reduce the severity. 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,080 So, ten years on, 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,960 is there a brighter future for those with bipolar? 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,240 HUBBUB 56 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:23,400 Four years ago, Stephen's bipolar life reached a critical point 57 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,120 whilst he was filming in Africa. 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,920 'I can recall interviewing an Ugandan minister 59 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:32,640 'who was a foaming, frothing homophobe of the worst kind 60 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,400 'behind the bill in Uganda 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,960 'that was supposed to make homosexuality a capital offence. 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,840 'In other words, a death sentence.' 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,760 - How do you do? - Thank you. My name is Stephen. 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,920 It was a very passionate interview and I was very... 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,480 strong in my opinions and he was very strong in his opinions. 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,120 I will arrest you. I will arrest you! 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,440 Don't promote, don't recruit, 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,360 don't encourage others to come into your... 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,600 I hope, um... 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,240 'There was nothing else to do, so I could go back to the hotel.' 71 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,040 - OK, thank you. - Thank you. 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,880 I knew I had a bottle of vodka in my room 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,880 and I knew I had a whole sponge bagful of pills. 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,680 And I paced around, 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,120 trying to analyse what it was that had disappeared from me. 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,080 And it seemed as though the whole essence of me had disappeared. 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,600 Everything that was me was no longer there. 78 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Just some feeling came over me that this was...this was the end. 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,200 And I just carefully lined up 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,360 I don't know how many of those damn pills 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,680 and drank all the vodka that there was there with the pills. 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,440 The next thing I remember was I'm on the floor, 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,880 an embarrassed member of the hotel 84 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,760 is looking down at the carpet in the doorway. 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,440 "You've just got to get into a hospital." 86 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,680 It took two days to get Stephen back to the UK. 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,120 He'd never been as low before. 88 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,640 He decided he had to see a psychiatrist. 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,920 It's easy to think that his slightly manic presentation 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,040 is part of his personality. 91 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,720 And therefore, that when he says he's down, it's fake. 92 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,880 That somehow, it's an act. 93 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,040 But that Uganda depression was clearly very deep. 94 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,920 I have a dim memory of arriving here and... 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,360 Well, you arrived, let me remind you, 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,440 - sorry that you were still alive. - Yes, I was. 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,200 And wanting to die and feeling that you should have died. 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 From two years ago when we first met, 99 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,840 just like being very depressed, 100 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,440 you were also extremely manic in your speech. 101 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,600 You talked and talked and talked about 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,440 the purposelessness of your life, how your skills meant nothing. 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,480 Your talents seemed meaningless 104 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,520 - and your future seemed hopeless. - Yeah. 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,720 So it was valuable to...put you on the anti-manic medication 106 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,880 and to get rid of the alcohol at that point 107 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,600 and look at your mood state. 108 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,880 And I can remember that, that I was in pain, but I can't recreate it. 109 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,400 But I remember thinking it and I meant it. 110 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,080 Stephen's psychiatrist immediately admitted him to hospital. 111 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,600 Had he not expressed willingness to accept treatment, 112 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,240 I would have applied for a section 113 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,360 under the Mental Health Act at that point. 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Because I was worried enough about him 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,080 to believe that he might actually kill himself. 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,360 We had somebody outside his door for most of the first day and night. 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,920 There were two very bad days and then suddenly, 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,280 - you began to see a chink of light again. - Yeah, that's right. 119 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,400 And brightened up very quickly. 120 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,480 At the age of 56, 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Stephen got a formal mental health diagnosis of cyclothymia. 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,360 Mood swings that lead to disturbed behaviour. 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,400 But with the diagnosis came the medication. 124 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,840 And that immediately made him feel much better. 125 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,680 It's often said that early diagnosis is crucial 126 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,320 to helping people live a happier, safer life. 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,480 - How do you do? - Hi! - How nice to meet you. I'm Stephen. 128 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,760 - Lovely to meet you! - Hello! Come in. I mean, that's what you say. 129 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,120 In the first series, Stephen met Cordelia, 130 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,400 who was diagnosed at 22, 131 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 after a distressing time at Oxford University. 132 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,720 I'm not going to be a lawyer 133 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,400 or a doctor or something with my illness... 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Cordelia, then 26, but struggling even with medication, 135 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,320 to manage her mood swings. 136 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Eight: Inflated self-esteem, rapid thoughts and speech, 137 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,440 counterproductive simultaneous tasks. Yes, I recognise that one. 138 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,160 That's about where I was when I was in hospital, about eight. 139 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,160 - No, I think you were at nine. - I was not! 140 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,320 I had not lost touch with reality! 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,800 - You... - I was not paranoid and vindictive! 142 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,520 Stephen watched Cordelia tell her therapist 143 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,560 how destructive bipolarity was to her dreams of becoming a writer. 144 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 What I...had thought is that when I was depressed, 145 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,240 I would be able to write about being depressed, but I actually can't. 146 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 I can't even write about being depressed when I'm depressed. 147 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,880 I can't really write about anything. 148 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,800 I'm never going to be able to write again. 149 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,640 I'm never going to be able to, you know, go out and socialise again. 150 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,920 I'm never going to be able to do anything again. 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 I mean, what does it say about you if you can't write? 152 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,880 She looks as though she wants to walk out now. 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,880 The writing is something that I'm good at and... 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,520 So, if you can't do that... 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,880 - that's the final straw? - Yeah. 156 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,440 First impressions ten years on seem positive. 157 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,760 Cordelia has written a novel and a daily blog charts her mood cycles. 158 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,280 'June 9th, 2014. 159 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,920 'What you should be doing is resting, regrouping, sleeping, 160 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,360 'but you're buzzing and you can't sleep, can't sleep, can't sleep.' 161 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,160 When she's low, she even gives a name to her depression. 162 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,040 She calls it, the Panther. 163 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,520 'November 6th, 2014. 164 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,000 'Waking up, late, there's a heavy weight on my chest. 165 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,960 'Opening my eyes, I see the Panther next to me, 166 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,560 'one huge paw draped over me. 167 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:10,120 '"I've been expecting you," I say.' 168 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,600 I was 26 years old and I had this optimism that I would overcome 169 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,400 my mental disorder and go on and live some much more productive life. 170 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,160 And, of course, I haven't. 171 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,080 I'm still dealing with my mental disorder every day of my life, 172 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,360 as is everyone else I know who has one. 173 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,600 'May 1st, 2015. 174 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 'There's a wren flying around the house, 175 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,240 'trying to get out, and she can't. 176 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,760 'And you're chasing after her, trying to coax her towards the door 177 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,640 'and you've got to, got to, got to chase her out. 178 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,440 'The wren flies into your mouth and down your oesophagus 179 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,080 'and the flapping wings of the tiny, terrified bird 180 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,600 'are beating in your head now 181 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,560 'and in your throat and in your heart. 182 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,080 'And your heart beats too fast and your chest is tight. 183 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,680 'It doesn't stop. 184 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,560 'This is anxiety.' 185 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,520 It happens when my mood is too high, or too low, 186 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,040 or sometimes it just comes out of nowhere. 187 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,640 I can be in a safe place and suddenly the bird is flapping 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,560 around inside my head and my stomach and I have to leave wherever I am. 189 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,200 When she's depressed, she's so totally negative about everything. 190 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,440 She thinks that she's worthless, her life is worthless. 191 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,160 She keeps saying, um... "Why can't I just die?" 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:29,200 And she has tried to, um... commit suicide four times. 193 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Ten years ago, Cordelia could still lead a social life, 194 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,760 going to London with her friend, Naomi. 195 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,920 Now, Naomi's life has moved on. 196 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,680 She is happily married and has a baby. 197 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:48,280 They still meet up, but Naomi sees just how much being bipolar 198 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,080 still shapes Cordelia's life. 199 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,040 To me, it seems like you're doing loads. 200 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,600 You're managing your blog every day and it's great. Yeah? 201 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,440 - And you're working. - Yes. 202 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,880 - You are... - A whole two days a week. 203 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,960 - And you're maintaining a relationship. - Yeah. Well, 204 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,560 I am maintaining a relationship, that's probably the main thing I'm doing. 205 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:15,520 - Do you still feel that you have as many highs, as well? - Yeah. 206 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,440 - And as extreme? - Yeah. 207 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,320 - Really? - yeah. My highs are a bit worse now. 208 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,760 I think it's because of adding all these new drugs in. And it's like... 209 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,200 You know, if it was sort of, 210 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,880 "Here's something that will make you happy and thin"... 211 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,000 ..then that would be one thing. 212 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 But it's, like, "Here is something that will make you fat 213 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,760 "and make you sweaty and not be able to sleep, 214 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,160 "but you've got to have it". 215 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,040 And that's just not a very nice choice. Or not choice. 216 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,040 - There isn't a choice. - Yeah. 217 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,360 LOW CHATTER 218 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,960 'She's extremely hard on herself. 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,480 'I can't stress that enough, really.' 220 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,600 She's achieving so much in her life 221 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,480 with all these difficult things going on for her 222 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,560 and the way that she feels and it's... 223 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,800 You know, it's just never enough for her. 224 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,520 And she's brave and courageous 225 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,040 and all these things that she doesn't see at all. 226 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,040 It's ruined any chance she could have had 227 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,600 of having the sort of life that her friends have. 228 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,320 When she's depressed, she won't speak to them. 229 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,280 She won't return their phone calls. She doesn't want to see anyone. 230 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,880 She just wants to be left alone 231 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,880 and it's not a very good basis for a friendship really. 232 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,560 So, she lives a very restricted sort of life, really, 233 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,280 for somebody of her age. 234 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Two years ago, 235 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,040 that restricted life suddenly got much worse. 236 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Cordelia discovered she developed a major physical illness too. 237 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,200 This is a CT scan 238 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,920 and we're going to be scanning through your chest 239 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,520 and your abdomen and pelvis. 240 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,200 A rash on her breast Cordelia had ignored 241 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,680 was diagnosed as breast cancer, 242 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:03,320 which has now spread to her skin and lungs. 243 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Breathe. 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,920 'Here we are at the hospital of death and cancer. 245 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,720 'Going to turn it into a scan to see if my cancer 246 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 'in my lungs is better or worse.' 247 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Ten years ago, I had everything to look forward to 248 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,400 and now, basically, whether they slow it down a bit or not, 249 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,080 I'm terminally ill 250 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,640 and I'm basically dying. 251 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,200 They don't know how long, they don't know if it will or it won't. 252 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 But... 253 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,520 every time we thought there might be some hope, 254 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 it always turned out worse than we expected, didn't it? 255 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,200 I think we've just given up hoping for things now 256 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,240 and we're just trying to have as much fun as we can. 257 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Almost every week, 258 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,800 Cordelia visits London Zoo with her mother. 259 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,200 Normally, it calms her. 260 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Oh, he's coming over to see us. 261 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,160 - He's coming over to see us. Hello, hello, JJ. - JJ. 262 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Do you see any of the cubs? 263 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,280 But today her mood is changing. 264 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Her normal pattern is 5 months high, 3 months low 265 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,480 and she's starting to feel low again. 266 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,360 I just feel really tired now. 267 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,920 I expect you do. 268 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,080 Just feel quite sad, haven't got much energy, 269 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,640 finding it very difficult to do my basic things, 270 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,200 like going to the gym and I really just want to sort of 271 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,640 be with my mum and... 272 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,400 Yeah, like now, I just really want to sit down. 273 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,560 I just feel really, really, really exhausted. 274 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,600 It's just as if a light has gone out, isn't it? 275 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,240 I can always tell. 276 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,960 I can't really explain it now because I'm actually just too tired. 277 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,760 Well, I think you'll just have to try and believe me 278 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,400 when I say that in two months' time, you will be feeling much better. 279 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 - Let's hope so. - Yes. 280 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,760 I'm hoping I'm still alive by then. 281 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Breast cancer doesn't annoy me all the time. 282 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,640 It's not like every day I think about it 283 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,960 in the way that I think about my mental disorder every day. 284 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,760 It's weird. It's really quite, quite different. 285 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Depression is just worse than anything 286 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,400 because it's, you know, 287 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,840 mental anguish and mental agony. 288 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 With her early diagnosis, 289 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Cordelia knew why she had severe mood swings. 290 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,160 But clearly it's not helped her to live with them. 291 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,000 For Stephen though, his diagnosis of cyclothymia 292 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,760 brought treatment that seemed to help, 293 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,360 but recently his behaviour has been causing concern. 294 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Despite being on medication, he's becoming increasingly manic 295 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,040 and his psychiatrist is considering a new diagnosis. 296 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,840 When I had that very manic episode earlier this year, 297 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,440 when I was hyper, 298 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,120 I was changing the colour shades of the trousers 299 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,200 hanging in the wardrobe, so that they went in one proper gradation 300 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,640 and I was being, I suppose, some people call it OCD. 301 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,920 - Forgive me, but you talk rapidly and you always have. 302 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,720 When you go a bit high, do you notice that speeds up? 303 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,120 I don't notice it as much as those close to me do. 304 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,880 My sister does very clearly 305 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,440 and will text me straightaway after we've had 306 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,600 - a conversation on the phone. - So, friends and family... - Yeah. 307 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,680 ..can sense that you've gone a little high? 308 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Some people think that being high is a rather 309 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,600 jolly, happy, great place, but I think, at times, 310 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,560 it makes you quite distressed as well. 311 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,920 Absolutely, this particular time I was saying, I think to you 312 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,200 and certainly to my close friends and family, I said, "Do you know... 313 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,960 "Please don't send straightaway for an ambulance, but 314 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,880 "I think I know how Joan of Arc felt. 315 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,000 "I think I understand some of this sort of... 316 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,680 "radiant sense of absolute purpose and... 317 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,200 "complete confidence and drive 318 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,000 "and connection to the entire universe." 319 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,480 It sounded absolute piffle when you think about it. 320 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,000 So filled with a kind of inner energy of... 321 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,440 That is so exciting. 322 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,880 The character I compared myself to is Howard Beale. 323 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,160 You know, the posthumous Oscar-winning performance 324 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,400 by Peter Finch in the film Network? 325 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,680 I want you to get up now. 326 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,320 I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. 327 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,720 I want you to get up right now and go to the window, 328 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,960 open it and stick your head out and yell, 329 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,480 "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this any more!" 330 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,280 He talks about being filled and charged 331 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,320 with an extraordinary energy. 332 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,480 But he refuses to believe he's man. 333 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,200 He thinks he is a prophet. 334 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,200 And fortunately, I didn't go down that line! 335 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,160 Do you think that that was one of the more manic phases 336 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,520 you've had recently? 337 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,480 Definitely, yes, yes. 338 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,240 Two years ago when you came in, first time, 339 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,360 we were thinking about a diagnosis then of next a mixed state, 340 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,440 - sort of cyclothymic state. - Yeah, yes. 341 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,920 And in the intervening period, I think, 342 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,720 we would have to concede that you've had a manic episode, certainly one. 343 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,960 - Yes. - And I think that means we need to probably review the diagnosis. 344 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,520 - Yeah. - So that, rather than it being cyclothymic disorder, 345 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,640 I think you have to accept now that it's bipolar type I disorder. 346 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,760 - Right. - I think you do have a true condition... - Yeah. 347 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,800 - ..and we've got to treat that appropriately. - Yes. 348 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,760 I long clung to the idea that I was cyclothymic 349 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,520 which is a sort of mixed state. 350 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,240 What marked it out for Billy, 351 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,000 and I think I'd kind of come to terms with it myself, 352 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,840 was the increasing periods of mania and sleeplessness 353 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,680 and restlessness, which are of a different order to 354 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,320 the bursting energy that I sometimes have. 355 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,560 The lowering thought is that it is getting worse in me 356 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,560 and cyclothymia to bipolar I is a bad jump. 357 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,120 I will have to be more careful with myself, 358 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:42,800 I will have to be less abandoned about the way I live. 359 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,640 I need really to know more about... 360 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,680 what'll happen to me if I'm not careful. 361 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,280 This new diagnosis will bring new medication to help control 362 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Stephen's mood swings. 363 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,240 One aspect of Stevens manic moments 364 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,440 so far in which he is fortunate, is that they've happened in private. 365 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,400 Many with bipolar aren't so lucky. 366 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,240 Their manic behaviour is in front of us - the public. 367 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,120 And the reaction can be brutal. 368 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:25,000 In June 2012, Alika, a 21-year-old budding musician in London, 369 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,480 took this train journey from Dollis Hill to Waterloo. 370 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,120 On board the train he listened to his music as always, 371 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,640 completely unaware that he was about to be seen by millions. 372 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,960 # ..tell you 373 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,280 # You don't care if it's true 374 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:54,720 # I know you've been hurt by someone else. # 375 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,280 The man who secretly filmed Alika from his phone 376 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,120 uploaded the video that night onto YouTube. 377 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,120 # If you let me... # 378 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:11,240 Within a day, over two million people had watched Alika's moment. 379 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,400 The entire world is looking at you, predominantly 70%, 380 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,920 like you're a fool. 381 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160 There's a lot of hurtful things. 382 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,880 "Needs shooting." 383 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,600 "Black X Factor for these tuneless, talentless, 384 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,880 "self-absorbed fucks." 385 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,200 "Alien." Wow. 386 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,680 "Humans - what a mass of parasites." 387 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,880 Nice. 388 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,440 I just remember, basically, that was the beginning of me going, 389 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,680 "Fuck everything, I want to run away. 390 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Things like this, it's literally destroying me. 391 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,240 "Let me just lock myself away. 392 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,440 "That's it." 393 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Alika's mum saw her son's mood change. 394 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,520 We hardly see him. 395 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,840 He hardly slept. 396 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,800 I realise, this boy is not sleeping, he's not eating. 397 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,360 He's not going to work. 398 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,920 This was one of the things I was doing in my room 399 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,200 while I was secluded and this is like a baby picture I've got. 400 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,680 At the back of it I basically wrote what I thought was my will, 401 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960 because I really thought I was going to die. 402 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040 The first thing it literally says is, 403 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 "Alika, you are not a bad person." 404 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,520 This is actually stains of water 405 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,920 which was from my eyes as I was writing that. 406 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,920 So, this is literally my dry tears, 407 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,120 writing it in a dark room. 408 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,680 I asked him, what is happening? 409 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,600 He said, "I've taken some few days off." 410 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,960 That went into a week, into two weeks. 411 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,160 And I say, "Something is not right here." 412 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,920 Eventually, Alika decided to take a dangerous step. 413 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Basically climbed out of my room 414 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280 and just wanted to get away from everything. 415 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,160 I was really trying to end it all. 416 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,480 And then my brother came in and he seen on my laptop 417 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,640 that I had researched, 418 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,920 "How to commit suicide." 419 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,400 And I think he thought I was bluffing and that it was all staged. 420 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600 So, I climbed out even more and I was basically kind of like 421 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 right at the top and I was thinking... 422 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,240 And I was pretty much ready to do it and that's when, I think, 423 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480 my brother realised it was real. 424 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,760 And that's when they called police. 425 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Finally, I'm getting literally picked up 426 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,120 and carried like a dead body 427 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,640 down the stairs, handcuffs on my wrist, 428 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,320 dragging me down in the most weirdest position. 429 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,880 We carry him. Some on the legs, someone on the hips, someone behind. 430 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,600 And he's screaming. 431 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,800 "Don't let them take me, don't let them take me!" 432 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,720 "Mum, you can't let them do this! You can't... 433 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,320 "I don't want to go!" 434 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,440 "I'm not crazy, don't let them take me!" 435 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,560 I just kept on screaming that out. 436 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,160 But I was very frightened, very frightened. 437 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,600 Alika was placed under section in a psychiatric hospital 438 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,960 for four months. 439 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,680 I've been explained and told that, "You had an episode of psychosis. 440 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,000 "You're going through one of those times 441 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,200 "that you don't know the difference between reality and dream." 442 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,360 And then, all of a sudden on the last day, 443 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,720 "Oh, yeah, so, we've decided you have bipolar." 444 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,800 I think they even said type I. 445 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,760 Despite the public humiliation of his breakdown 446 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,440 and what triggered it, in the 3 years since, 447 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,160 Alika hasn't hidden away. 448 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Instead, he's taken his experience of being a target of abuse 449 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,880 and uses it to confront the stigma surrounding mental illness. 450 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,040 # You don't care if it's true. # 451 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,240 # I know you've been hurt 452 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,240 # By someone else. # 453 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,640 Having bipolar is a very hard thing to deal with. 454 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,360 I think the hardest thing about it is when you know that no one will 455 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,920 really understand, when you become looked as some sort of freak. 456 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,840 I know it sounds cliched, but there is always light at the end 457 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,920 of the tunnel and if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. 458 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,480 And I'm proof. 459 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,560 460 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,480 I thought of it as, "Oh, he's just another crazy guy on the train." 461 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,720 - Yeah. - Because you get a lot of that in London. 462 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,200 But then after obviously you said it, I was just like, "Oh..." That's where it hit. 463 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,320 I feel guilty for laughing at you, 464 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,360 because I don't know what it feels like to be in your shoes. 465 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:44,520 Some of the comments were extremely racist, or extremely inhumane 466 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,240 and extremely negative, like, "He should die." 467 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,080 It's like, wow. Someone was having a breakdown 468 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,840 and singing out loud on the tube and they should die for that? 469 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,200 When you're, you know, maybe posting a comment, you don't realise the effect 470 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,880 - that it will have on the person you're commenting about. 471 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,040 You think it's banter, but to them it really hurts and it could keep 472 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,240 them awake at night, what you said. But behind the computer screen, 473 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,440 you don't realise that. You just think, "Ah, LOL! I'm being funny." 474 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,040 But for me that's a subject quite close to my heart because one of my friends took their lives. 475 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,720 When he passed away, it wasn't us that was not trying to talk about, 476 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,880 it was the adults that tried to keep it, like, hushed 477 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,640 and nobody wanted to talk about it. 478 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,720 - So, they were creating stigma, when actually.. - We wanted to understand, like, but obviously, 479 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,760 - No one wanted to tell. - No one wanted to tell that they didn't want to tell us. 480 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,720 People use bipolar as an insult nowadays. "Oh, you're bipolar. 481 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,240 You know, "Get your mood together." Stuff like that. 482 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,480 And so you tend to stay away from people who you think aren't OK. 483 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,840 If we were educated about all these things, 484 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,800 we'd know that this is literally an illness. 485 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,600 The brain can get sick just as much as the body can get sick. 486 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,760 This isn't a choice. 487 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,480 People who I've spoken with about this have all been, like, my age group 488 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,320 and over time they've just naturally become negative, 489 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520 which is what I feel like a lot of adults do 490 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,400 and I hope you guys don't do the same. 491 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,240 Don't judge a book by its cover. 492 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,640 So, before you judge anyone or before you condemn anyone, 493 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,080 or, like, take part in mocking and shaming people - 494 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,520 just remember that that could be you - and that's it. 495 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,840 Thank you. 496 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,880 Alika's decision to fight back against the stigma he faced 497 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,200 is part of how he forged his recovery. 498 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,560 With the more serious diagnosis of bipolar I, 499 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Stephen's psychiatrist wants him to be aware of what might threaten his recovery. 500 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,080 I remember in the five-month period before you saw me, 501 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,080 - you visited 20 countries... - Yeah. - ..you'd crossed three time zones... 502 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,840 - Yeah. - ..and you were burnt out by then. - Yeah. 503 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,640 And I understand you've now done a lot of travelling... 504 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,040 Yes, last week I went to San Francisco for a day. 505 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,480 I literally - I mean, I landed there at five in the evening, 506 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,720 I had a series of meetings until about 11 at night 507 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560 and then got up at 5:30 in the morning San Francisco time 508 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,280 and then all the way through the day until 4 o'clock 509 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 when the flight back to London was. 510 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,920 And then flew to Chennai in India 511 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,760 and arriving there at 5:30 in the morning. 512 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,560 And then that filming went on till 10:30 in the evening 513 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,920 and the next day was another 12 hours. 514 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,640 In fact, I was up till midnight and then I had an hour to get back to the hotel and pack 515 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:57,240 and go to the airport because it was a 3:30 in the morning flight back to England. 516 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,360 I don't usually think of myself as an anxious person - 517 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,400 just the act of going out of the house, 518 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,880 I felt this kind of dead weight of anxiety on me. 519 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Do remember that with people with bipolar disorder especially - 520 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,840 crossing borders, jet lag - they're all pressures 521 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,240 that can actually cause a disruption. I'm not going to say that they'll cause a breakdown... 522 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,640 - No. - ..they won't necessarily do that, but they are stressor and you need to be particularly careful 523 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,720 that you manage them properly. Does your sleep get disordered? 524 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,240 The most important thing for me now is to get a solid eight hours 525 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,520 and I know I won't unless I have an Ambien, you know - 526 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,160 diazepam or an Ambien and a Xanax. 527 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,120 - So, that's you, in a way, creating sleep. - Yes. 528 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,280 In fact, that and Xanax and a good couple of vodkas - 529 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,880 I know I will get straight to sleep. And I know I'll wake up without feeling fuzzy 530 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,960 - or in any way affected. - I want to pull you up on that, because, frankly, 531 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:06,200 - that's what I don't think you should do. - Yes. - It's not wise or safe to rely on self-medicating 532 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,560 - with alcohol. Remember, alcohol is a very powerful drug... - Yes. - ..it's also a depressant, 533 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,640 you're on an anti-depressant - and, frankly, if you take an antidepressant with one hand 534 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,840 and a depressant with the other - they'll meet in the middle of your brain and have a bit of a car crash. 535 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,760 And little bits going everywhere and that will mess up your thinking. So, you will be a little zonked 536 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,000 in the morning. 537 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 What can make you high - as I mention to Stephen regularly - 538 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,920 travel, sleeplessness, not taking care of yourself, 539 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,480 poor exercise and, of course, drugs and drink. 540 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,680 If you drink a lot, or use cocaine, or use stimulant drugs, you may drive yourself into this condition 541 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 because you're already predisposed towards it. 542 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,320 So, there's an interplay between what you do with your life 543 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,040 and the condition you may have inherited, or you may have developed. 544 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,080 Many people like Stephen self-medicate their condition 545 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,760 with alcohol and drugs to help them deal with their moods. 546 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,400 At the same time, they are often very reluctant to take the medication 547 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,400 their psychiatrists have prescribed for them. 548 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,280 There Must Be An Angel by Eurythmics 549 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,280 They hate the side effects and try to manage their lives without medication. 550 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,960 That led Stephen to his crisis point in Uganda. 551 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,080 It's brought Scott Martin, a chef in Lincolnshire, 552 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,760 to a crossroads in his marriage and his job. 553 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,720 I had a bit of delusions where, it was like an obsession with Annie Lennox. 554 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,720 # No one on earth could feel like this... # 555 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:37,200 I was listening to her songs and I believed there was hidden messages in the songs just for me. 556 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Particular lines in the songs that I thought, that's me, you know. 557 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,080 # Must be talking to an angel 558 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440 # Must be talking to an angel 559 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,680 # Must be talking to an angel... # 560 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Thursday night he had completely lost touch with reality 561 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,640 and really frightened me. 562 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840 # Must be talking to an angel... # 563 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,280 And he just thought he had time travelled to now 564 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,080 and that he was actually the age that he is now, but in the '80s. 565 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,480 - This weren't all real to him. - OK. 566 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,920 She's obviously been put on this Earth to write the song for me 567 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,560 and it all adds up and, you know, this is how I am. 568 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,120 This is what frightens me, Naomi, because he last lost touch with reality 569 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,480 and I'm telling him that this isn't true and I'm worried that one day 570 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080 he's going to wake up and think that he's some sort of angel. 571 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,560 If he does believe he's an angel and he could fly, would he actually attempt to fly? 572 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,080 But this is sort of why I want him sorted now. 573 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,200 I've said to him - the last time he was in a real bad place - 574 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,360 I sort of said, if you don't get sorted, you're going to lose everything. 575 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,360 He could be like a bear on a morning shift 576 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880 and then in the evening when he comes in - 577 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360 completely different - raring to go. 578 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960 For the last five years, Scott's held down a chef's job here, 579 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,440 but only just. 580 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360 And only because his boss is determined to help him. 581 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,840 The difference in temperament within a 12 hour, six hour span, 582 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,360 was quite marked really. 583 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,840 He's one person and then his another person. 584 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,720 He changes from being happy to then, like, 585 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,840 being moody and then just snaps back to how he was. 586 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Just don't chuck away that pan, though. 587 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,080 He slowly loses all his friends because his sudden outbursts - 588 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,400 on some people they can have such an impact, 589 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 they'll never speak to him again. So, yes. 590 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Park bench material is where he could be. 591 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Scott's family life is no easier. 592 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,280 His mania is making him so anxious, he simply cannot enjoy going out 593 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800 with his wife and children. 594 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,720 I don't think I can do this. I don't know if I can do this. I just look around and think, 595 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,680 who's that there and do I know them? It doesn't look busy, but to me it just seems like 596 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,320 loads of people. I can hear everything they're saying, it's just,too much for me. 597 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,400 I'm nervous and worried and people are staring, I suppose, 598 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,360 and paranoid and all of it. 599 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,000 600 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,280 This isn't the first time that we've gone anywhere and he's ended up sitting in the car on his own 601 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,600 while I've gone off and done whatever with the kids. 602 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,400 Sometimes he thinks, "Yeah, I'm going to try and do this and I am going to do it." 603 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,840 And then he gets here and he can't. He just can't make himself to it. 604 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,720 Scott's increasingly disturbed behaviour has driven his wife to breaking point. 605 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,000 Hayley said, you know, this can't go on no more. 606 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,640 If you're not willing to help yourself - you've got to go and take something, basically. 607 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,200 I mean, it's like an ultimatum of - 608 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,880 it's either this or nothing, really. 609 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,160 So, Scott now finds himself back at the psychiatric clinic 610 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,240 he came to over a year ago. 611 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,600 Then, he was put on medication, but after just a few weeks on the drugs, 612 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,200 he came off them. 613 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,920 He was very anti-medicine, because he told me very clearly that 614 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080 taking medication from a psychiatrist 615 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,000 is very stigmatising for him. He didn't believe in it. 616 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,960 We discussed about a lot of treatment options and I told you to go and read about it. 617 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Have you gone through that? 618 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,760 - Yeah, I have sort of picked one what I'm particularly interested in. So... - And that is? 619 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,160 - Which appeals to me the most. So... - And that is? 620 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960 - Lithium, yeah. - Oh, good. 621 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,360 Lithium is a very strong, very powerful, 622 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,680 - very well established, very evidence-based mood stabiliser. 623 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,240 - How it works, even now in 2015, we don't know... - OK. 624 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:02,360 but it works very well. It goes to your brain and alters the mechanism 625 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,240 - and within a week or two you'll feel that mood gets stabilised. 626 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:11,880 But like any other chemical that we use, it also has side effects. 627 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,800 Some people feel that they have some weight gain. 628 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,840 I mean, that is an issue for me, so... 629 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,080 - Yes, so we'll talk about it, yeah? - Yeah. It's sort of known as like a zombie drug, 630 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,240 and that was my big issue with it. But you've covered... 631 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:31,040 - No, I don't think it will cause you that zombie feeling... 632 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,240 When I looked through all of the drugs available, 633 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,920 they all had these side effects. 634 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,560 I think you just have to learn that the side effects are going to be there, 635 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,320 but you've got to give it the patience to carry on with that. 636 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,440 But last time Scott didn't have that patience. 637 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,800 Within a month, he came off his meds because, in his words, 638 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,880 he felt fat and like a zombie. 639 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,240 A complaint voiced by many who have been put on antidepressants 640 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,360 and mood stabilisers. 641 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,680 The question is, will it be different now? 642 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,960 He can knock pans and knock things off and catch plates. 643 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,040 His processes were a little slower than he usually moves about, 644 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,360 which I thought was the worry of him of taking this particular drug, as well. 645 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,240 I've had a week where I had no feelings and no emotions 646 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:26,560 and, you know, that was a concern for me. Because I was quite an emotional person 647 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,880 and to suddenly realise what it's like to have no emotion, 648 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,840 then you think there's something wrong. 649 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,720 Scott has retreated into his own company and in the second week of his medication, 650 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,240 discovers another worrying side effect. 651 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,760 I was sleeping - nightmares - 652 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,880 and I felt as if I was awake in my sleep. 653 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,760 It was frightening to think, is this going to be like this for every night I go to sleep? 654 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,760 Towards the end of that second week, he's staying up till the early hours of the morning 655 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,160 because I think he was scared that he was going to go into it again, 656 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,240 so he'd stop himself going to bed. 657 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,840 I always just wonder about, when he's down on his own at night, 658 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,800 if he's not well, he didn't ought to be left on his own, 659 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,240 even though he tells me he wants to be on his own, he doesn't really. 660 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:18,840 I know he doesn't really. 661 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,240 It's now six weeks and Scott is still on the meds. 662 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,320 His psychiatrist wants to do a follow-up assessment. 663 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,200 So, let's talk about, what are the good things that have happened to you? 664 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,920 What are positive things that have happened? 665 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680 I think the positive thing is I feel a bit more calmer, 666 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,600 a bit more able to be in social situations 667 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,560 and perhaps my mind's clearer, as well. 668 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,400 That's the big thing, for me. I've not been overthinking things. 669 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400 Have you noticed any change in your sleep pattern yet? 670 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,720 Initially, I was...I felt as if I was staying awake a bit more 671 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:58,120 and I had a few... like a nightmare type symptom. 672 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,200 What sort of nightmares? 673 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,960 It was a kind of like I was awake in my sleep. 674 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,800 And it sort of put me off going to sleep, so then I was staying up. 675 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,120 - But that's passed now. - Passed now? Oh, good. 676 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,240 Yeah, I think that was about 2 or 3 weeks into it. 677 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:16,920 So, on a scale of zero to ten, 678 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,840 if zero was where you started and ten is very well, 679 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,440 where would you put yourself now? 680 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,080 - Six, seven. - Six, seven? - Yeah. - That's very impressive. 681 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,000 They've took to me well, you know. 682 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,200 Other medications, I didn't have no faith in, but this one just, 683 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,040 yeah, I feel more myself. 684 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,760 But there is a sting in the tail for Scott. 685 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,080 To build on the success of lithium so far, 686 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,440 Dr Jha wants Scott to double his daily dose. 687 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,400 - What did he say? - I need to double my dosage. - Right. 688 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,520 Because my levels aren't quite higher, 689 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,720 so he wants to stick me onto 800 instead of 400. 690 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,960 Will they not get worse with it being a double dose? 691 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,080 He never mentioned, so we've just got to see how it goes. 692 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,800 Well, I just know when you first started taking them, 693 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,640 - you felt quite poorly for a start, didn't you? - Yeah. Well... 694 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Could that happen again? 695 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,000 Potentially. I'll see. 696 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,120 - I feel well, so... - Yeah. 697 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,200 If I have any problems, I can just contact him, can't I? So... 698 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,560 But, again, you can say this now, because you've been good, just lately. 699 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,840 When you're not good, will you still be saying the same then? 700 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,880 Or will you be telling me off because I'm interfering and controlling and... 701 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,160 - We'll wait and see, won't we? - Yeah. - We'll have to wait and see. 702 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,480 Oh, well. Hopefully it won't come to that. 703 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,720 Come on, kids. Jump in. 704 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:40,000 Scott then surprises Hayley by agreeing to a trip to town with the family. 705 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,600 MUSIC: Dog Shelter by Burial 706 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,800 I mean, I'm pleased, but... 707 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,600 you're the sweaty! You've got the hot hands. 708 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,480 Keep following Daddy. 709 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,520 I think they've definitely noticed that Daddy's calmer and happier 710 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,000 and, you know, happy to be around us all and have us all together. 711 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,880 I think he does try to do it. 712 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,880 I think it's still there eating away at him, you know, the anxiety of it all, 713 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,440 but he just tries to do it and tries to control it. 714 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,320 MUSIC: Dog Shelter by Burial 715 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,960 I do think that he can do this if he really wants to do it, 716 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,360 but when he's low he's not himself, 717 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,360 he's not always in control of what he's saying and what he's thinking 718 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,560 and that's when I'm worried that he'll say, "No, I'm not doing any more." 719 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,880 I believe lithium works better the longer you've been on it, 720 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,600 so we're talking, like, years not weeks or days. 721 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,600 I do think it's the beginning of the journey, but hopefully, he'll get through it. 722 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,640 When Scott was first diagnosed, Hayley thought this was a breakthrough - 723 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,080 Scott's behaviour will improve. 724 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,840 Now she realises it's an illness she and the family will have to cope with the rest of his life. 725 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,680 And Scott will have to accept taking medication is a vital part of that. 726 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,760 There is no guarantee of the condition easing. 727 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080 MUSIC: BBC NEWS INTRO 728 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,960 The American actor and comedian Robin Williams has been found dead 729 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,880 at his home in California. 730 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,120 Police say they believe he killed himself. 731 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,960 The worst thing that has happened to me in terms of just reminding me 732 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,760 of how serious this is was the suicide of Robin Williams. 733 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,440 A man of such extraordinary grace and kindness. 734 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,800 There's a myth around that manic people are all very happy people. 735 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160 They're often not - and having to be the funny person in the party 736 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,160 and the one that everyone relies on to be the life and soul is very exhausting for a lot of people. 737 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,120 And that's why some comedians and some very funny people 738 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,040 become extremely depressed when they go down and often, of course, suicidal. 739 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,840 And there are, as you know, many comedians who have actually killed themselves. 740 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,240 - How many are born of your... I mean, it is... - It's a gene pool. 741 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,760 - Of your gene pool? - You have children? 742 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,520 When the gene pool's a Jacuzzi, this is what you get. 743 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,840 - "You've had children?" Yes. "You have spawn?" Yes. - There must be a Robin Land somewhere 744 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,840 - where there are more of you. Where you can... - There's others who can speak this language. - Yes! 745 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,560 It reminded me that this is not a condition that is ever going to go away. 746 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,800 That what you're not talking about is curing me. You're talking about... 747 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,200 how best I can cope with something that's going to live with me. 748 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,840 Robin Williams's death just reminded me - 749 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,800 he was older than me - 750 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,760 that...these things, these ghosts, don't go away. 751 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,920 No, but I think we can do lots to reduce the risk of anything... 752 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,520 - Yeah. - ..awful happening to your thinking, 753 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,320 so that it drives you towards doing something to yourself. 754 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,600 - But I think you're right - you will have this for the rest of your life, in my view. 755 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,040 We will do what we can to reduce the frequency of the attacks, 756 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,640 but the tendency is for - as people get older, 757 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,800 - for the interval between episodes tend to shorten slightly. 758 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,000 But with good treatment we can make that as manageable as possible 759 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,520 I am more alert now than I've ever been in my life to my own moods, 760 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,120 but it's never going to get off my back, this monkey - this is always going to be there - 761 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,000 and no matter how things seem to be going well, 762 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,400 one day there's always the possibility of... 763 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,120 ..just me getting it wrong. 764 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Stephen now accepts just how dangerous his mental illness is. 765 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,880 Managing it going forward is a daunting prospect, 766 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,800 but Stephen's in his fifties. 767 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,640 For a teenager discovering they are bipolar means decades of treatment 768 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000 and a life change for ever. 769 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Three months before - literally, no sign of anything - 770 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,080 I was just... 771 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,200 No one would have suspected. 772 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Six years ago, Rachel Edwards lived in this Norfolk village. 773 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,880 She appeared a happy teenager but she wasn't. 774 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,720 It would be kind of like at night time when I'm on my own, 775 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:35,000 I used to cry and stuff, because I just felt so low, but I didn't know why. 776 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,040 She had a couple of jobs, she worked at the swimming pool here as a lifeguard 777 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,680 and she worked also in the old people's home, she did cleaning. 778 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,280 And she suddenly started getting really tearful and tired 779 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,240 and I said, "You're overdoing it." 780 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:54,000 Looking back, we just thought, "Oh, she's just overworking. She just wants the money." 781 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,600 I was very, very low for about a week and I couldn't stop crying. 782 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,040 I didn't know what was wrong with me 783 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,160 and then suddenly my mood started to elevate 784 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,600 while I was away on a college trip to Amsterdam. 785 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,000 (Forever Lost by God Is An Astronaut) 786 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,640 When I was in Amsterdam, I went to an art gallery and I was looking at all the paintings 787 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,640 and the letters he'd written and I had an idea that I was Van Gogh. 788 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,000 (Forever Lost by God Is An Astronaut) 789 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,200 The ferry trip back to England was rough. 790 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,960 But Rachel decided she could control the weather. 791 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,920 She was found on deck screaming at the storm. 792 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,960 Her parents were called to take her home to Norfolk. 793 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600 That weekend, worried about leaving her, 794 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,520 they brought Rachel with them to their London flat. 795 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,120 I got her into bed and I fell asleep 796 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,680 and then she had got up while I was asleep 797 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,400 and that's when it happened. 798 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,400 I got dressed into a nice outfit, put my bag on, done my make-up 799 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,360 and went out onto the balcony. 800 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,440 And there was some helicopters outside 801 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,880 and I thought that they were there to film me 802 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,880 coming out on the balcony and that they were going to film me flying. 803 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,720 Because I felt like I was a really special person. 804 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,600 And then I got up - because it was like a high ledge - 805 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040 and stood on that and jumped. 806 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,720 I woke up and she wasn't there and it was kind of like, "Where is she?" I thought, "Oh, she'll be in the 807 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:52,440 "kitchen, or something. She's gone to get something." And I went, and of course, the door was open - 808 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,800 the balcony door was open - 809 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,080 and I went out and she was sort of screaming down the bottom, sort of... 810 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,400 Mum said I was screaming, "I don't want to die, I don't want to die." 811 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,960 So no intention was suicidal when I was like this, it was just... 812 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,520 ..I was just very confused. 813 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,520 The fall of 50 feet broke Rachel's back 814 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,360 and she spent months in hospital. 815 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,240 It's weird, because I can move my legs, so you wouldn't think 816 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:29,320 I'm paralysed, but I'm actually paralysed from here down. 817 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,960 When I got told I'd never be to walk again, that was just 818 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,840 the worst feeling ever. I thought my life was over. 819 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,640 The hospital diagnosed Rachel's broken body, 820 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,920 but not immediately her broken mind. 821 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,800 Perhaps, not surprisingly, because it usually takes between seven 822 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,320 and eight years of people exhibiting really troubling behaviour 823 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560 before a true diagnosis is made. 824 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,880 So, Rachel left the hospital still manic. 825 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,160 18 months later, she had a second episode. 826 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,160 This time, her friends saw it coming. 827 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,520 Well, Mum found this earlier - this whole folder. 828 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,800 This is some of the stuff that I did. 829 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,760 - You remember writing all of this. - I remember just going manic with the colours and the pens. 830 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,360 It just doesn't make any sense, at all. 831 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,440 It just shows how random your thoughts were at the time. 832 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,200 This was my head, if you know what I mean. 833 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,760 Just all these things, all at once. 834 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,840 You did go really childlike. 835 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,440 Yeah. I think that's how we noticed, probably, the second episode was coming. It was... 836 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,680 - Really excitable. - Yeah. 837 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,000 When I got ill the 2nd time, did you worry, like, that I was going to have another accident, or something? 838 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400 Yeah, I did. I was really worried. 839 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,920 And you were, like, rolling around on the floor in the supermarket. 840 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,760 - I can't even remember this. - We just stood there and cried, I think. 841 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,360 We were just... Because it was such a shock, it was like, what's happened? 842 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,360 Rachel's behaviour became more and more troubling, 843 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,320 until one night she decided again to jump. 844 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,920 I still had these feelings that I'd be able to fly, 845 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,680 despite everything that happened to me. 846 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,720 I went upstairs one night and I got dressed up again 847 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:24,080 and I thought someone was sitting outside my window 848 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,720 and that I was going to fly off with them. 849 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:29,600 I went to bed and I thought, 850 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,480 I'll do it later when everyone's asleep. 851 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,760 I went to bed and luckily didn't wake up until the morning 852 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,720 and then I had different ideas by the morning. 853 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,240 I always hate that. 854 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,440 It took that second attempt to jump before Rachel 855 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,480 was formally diagnosed bipolar and prescribed medication. 856 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,160 Despite that, she still has severe mood swings and is judged at risk. 857 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,240 Her mental health nurse wants her to agree to being sectioned 858 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,600 if her behaviour becomes extreme again. 859 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,360 You know, if things got really bad we would actually... 860 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,880 I don't know what your thoughts are about using the Mental Health Act 861 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,000 as a last resort, I guess, for you. 862 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,040 - I don't really know what that is. - The Mental Health Act would be where, if you felt - 863 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,920 "Pete, I'm not going to go into hospital, I'm feeling too great, things are amazing..." 864 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,760 - and I was really concerned about knowing where this could lead in terms of your elevated mood... 865 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,520 ..we consider having you in hospital for a little while until we can get you back to stable again. 866 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,720 I do get low, I do get the low days, like I was saying last time, 867 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,480 but I try and get myself out of them. 868 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,240 - We need to watch both ends of the spectrum, do know what I mean? 869 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,400 - Hopefully, that won't happen, but... - Yeah, no, hopefully not. 870 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,560 Because we've got all these other stages in between to prevent that, but we have to talk about the... 871 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,640 - The last resort. - The last resort, yeah. 872 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,120 We need to take steps to ensure her safety 873 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,880 and if Rachel's gone beyond the point where she would come in for a voluntary admission 874 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640 and has lost capacity due to the mental state, 875 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,280 then we need to protect her from herself 876 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,680 and so we need to get her into hospital where we can stabilise it 877 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,360 and get her back to her normal self as quickly as possible. 878 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,640 Didn't I plants some blackberries? 879 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,960 - No. - Blueberries? 880 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,560 - The blueberries. - Yeah, they died. - Oh. 881 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,880 - I was telling Dad last night... - Yeah? 882 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,040 ..if I was to get ill again, 883 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,400 bringing me up here would probably be the best thing. 884 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,720 Yeah, it's very therapeutic. 885 00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:48,680 She's very brave and she'd had a lot of pain. 886 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,960 You do question, why her? You know, what has she done to deserve it? 887 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,880 But it's not up to us, is it? How these things happen, they just happen. 888 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,760 Knowing now she's bipolar faces Rachel with a familiar challenge. 889 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,280 Familiar, that is, to the mentally ill. 890 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,520 People don't understand mental health, or they don't know about bipolar 891 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:20,600 and I thought, if I told people the truth that I'd jumped off the balcony 892 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,720 because I thought I could fly, then people are just going to think I'm absolutely nuts. 893 00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:30,480 Which is why when people asked me, I'd just say, "Oh, I fell off a balcony." 894 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,240 But one day I saw the Mental Health Awareness Day on TV 895 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:37,920 and it just got me thinking 896 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,480 and I just decided to write a blog about it - about my accident 897 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,520 and about mental health - to raise awareness, really. 898 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,160 I shared it on Facebook. The response I had was just amazing. 899 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,040 I'd never expected that and it was just so positive comments 900 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,080 and messages and e-mails. 901 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,800 Encouraged by the reaction to going public about being bipolar, 902 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,680 Rachel is now determined to take her experience to those who most need help. 903 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,480 She's training in Norwich to be a peer support worker 904 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,680 for people with mental health problems. 905 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,160 So, why would that help somebody, do you reckon, hearing how you did it? 906 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,960 They might feel more open in hearing our story. 907 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,720 The other week on one of the workshops, I was chatting to a lady afterwards 908 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:32,960 and when I left her, she said, "You've actually really inspired me." 909 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,760 And that was really nice, because... 910 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,480 that is going to be part of our role, really - 911 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,120 to inspire. 912 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,000 Three months later, 913 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,160 she got what she never imagined would be possible again - a job. 914 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:58,280 Actually getting a job, to me, is massive. 915 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,040 One of my older brothers actually said to me after my accident, 916 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,240 "One day you'll use what you've been through to help others." 917 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,320 I didn't really ever think about it, but now I'm doing this, 918 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,640 it kind of feels like I am meant to be doing it. 919 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,800 Being open about her mental illness is now central to how Rachel 920 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,960 lives her life and how she intends to survive with her condition. 921 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:32,000 I didn't lose any friends, they gradually brought me back into the world 922 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,680 and they'd come round and see me, sit with me while I cried... 923 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,280 They don't feel sorry for me, they just include me in everything. 924 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,520 Let's get in front of the stage, right. 925 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,800 926 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:58,480 We've been to festivals, even though it's hard in the mud getting around, 927 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,560 they always include me in everything. 928 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,720 Which is what you want really. 929 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:06,960 I wouldn't want people feeling sorry for me. 930 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,320 Because... 931 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,520 to me, now, I'm just...I'm fine. 932 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,800 Ten years on, it's still difficult for people who are bipolar. 933 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,880 They struggle to take medication, to get quicker treatment 934 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,800 and to live with stigma and the fear of it. 935 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,880 But as Stephen knows, people like Rachel show a way forward. 936 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,880 The triumph of spirit over misfortune. 937 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,680 He hopes we get the message. 938 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,160 I'm very proud of the fact that as president of Mind, 939 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,600 it's more talked about, politicians talk about it more. 940 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,960 You know, it's in the culture more and it's understood more 941 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,360 and it's extremely pleasing that so many people 942 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,880 do make a difference and care about it. 943 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,920 As always, it's the young who are so much more sympathetic now 944 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,960 than other generations before. 945 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,520 They're so much better informed and that can only increase. 946 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,040 Because you have to find a way for us as a society 947 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,280 to value everyone - including the mentally ill. 948 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,880 And, in fact, the mentally ill perhaps more than anyone, 949 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:26,040 because they are a submerged minority, but a huge one 950 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,760 and their difficulties make life harder for them to deal with 951 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,360 and to find the right way through. 952 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,840 They really do. 953 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,360 Subtitles by Ericsson 85630

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