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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,473 --> 00:00:27,199 Introduce yourself, what's your name? 2 00:00:27,234 --> 00:00:30,513 My name's Bob Whittaker, I'm 48 years old, a Leo. 3 00:00:32,687 --> 00:00:34,103 How did you get the name Bob? 4 00:00:34,137 --> 00:00:36,139 I'm named after a good friend of my father's, 5 00:00:36,174 --> 00:00:40,661 Bobby Kennedy, and he's my namesake. 6 00:00:42,663 --> 00:00:44,423 Who's your dad? 7 00:00:44,458 --> 00:00:45,631 Who's my dad? Yeah. 8 00:00:45,666 --> 00:00:46,701 Jim Whittaker, first American 9 00:00:46,736 --> 00:00:48,807 to climb Mt. Everest, Seattle luminary, 10 00:00:48,841 --> 00:00:51,706 CEO of REI, worked there for 25 years. 11 00:00:51,741 --> 00:00:54,882 Environmentalist, peace activist. 12 00:01:08,827 --> 00:01:13,832 Let's do it. 13 00:02:15,963 --> 00:02:18,621 Bruce, who is Bob Whittaker? 14 00:02:18,655 --> 00:02:23,660 Who is Bob Whittaker, okay, pause, dramatic pause here. 15 00:02:38,434 --> 00:02:43,093 In 1995, if you were walking the Outback in Australia 16 00:02:43,128 --> 00:02:45,130 and you told somebody you were from Seattle, 17 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:47,477 they'd be going, "Oh, Nirvana, Soundgarden, 18 00:02:47,512 --> 00:02:49,479 "Pearl Jam," maybe Mudhoney. 19 00:02:50,618 --> 00:02:54,070 It's amazing to reflect on what that culture looked like 20 00:02:54,104 --> 00:02:57,970 at its very inception, and what it looked like was a handful 21 00:02:58,005 --> 00:03:01,491 of people drinking craft beer, rocking out 22 00:03:01,526 --> 00:03:05,495 and crowd surfing, and one of those guys was Bob Whittaker. 23 00:03:09,672 --> 00:03:14,746 I knew of him, just because of him being a big asshole 24 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:18,370 at parties and shows and whatnot. 25 00:03:18,405 --> 00:03:20,648 But I'm driving up to Seattle one night, 26 00:03:20,683 --> 00:03:22,132 it was at a Mudhoney show, 27 00:03:22,167 --> 00:03:23,513 and I see this car coming up behind me, 28 00:03:23,548 --> 00:03:25,205 and it's a convertible, 29 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:29,588 and there's this white corkscrew hair flying everywhere, 30 00:03:29,623 --> 00:03:31,418 and I'm looking in my rear view mirror, and I'm going, 31 00:03:31,452 --> 00:03:34,110 like, "Oh, here comes some hot chick in a convertible." 32 00:03:34,144 --> 00:03:36,112 It pulls up alongside of me, and I look over, 33 00:03:36,146 --> 00:03:39,322 and it's Bob, and I went, "Ah, ah," 34 00:03:39,357 --> 00:03:40,496 and he just takes off. 35 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:42,705 ♪ No time like the present 36 00:03:42,739 --> 00:03:46,467 ♪ To get ripped apart 37 00:03:46,502 --> 00:03:47,606 ♪ Got this 38 00:03:47,641 --> 00:03:49,470 So now, Mudhoney shows, everybody would be there, 39 00:03:49,505 --> 00:03:51,265 everybody in town. 40 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:54,268 Mudhoney was the loosest band you could ever see. 41 00:03:54,303 --> 00:03:55,856 You never knew what was gonna happen, 42 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:58,030 they could fall apart at any second. 43 00:03:59,031 --> 00:04:01,655 They brought a sense of, again, irreverence 44 00:04:01,689 --> 00:04:04,623 that became infamous. 45 00:04:04,658 --> 00:04:07,661 And Bob Whittaker had a lot to do with that. 46 00:04:12,631 --> 00:04:15,772 Hey. 47 00:04:15,807 --> 00:04:17,498 What's your middle name? 48 00:04:17,533 --> 00:04:19,189 Mudhoney was leaving for a tour, and they're like, 49 00:04:19,224 --> 00:04:20,846 "Yeah, we're gonna bring this guy Bob along 50 00:04:20,881 --> 00:04:23,539 "with us to help do the driving 51 00:04:23,573 --> 00:04:26,335 " 'cause he doesn't know how to do anything else." 52 00:04:26,369 --> 00:04:29,855 He was drafted in to be our roadie, 53 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:33,549 the joke is, if you asked him to help carry an amp 54 00:04:33,583 --> 00:04:37,138 he'd be like, "Carry it yourself, that's not mine." 55 00:04:37,173 --> 00:04:40,556 No, no, no, Bob didn't lift a finger moving anything. 56 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:42,178 I gotta go to work. 57 00:04:42,212 --> 00:04:43,317 Hey, man, you gotta work, Bob, 58 00:04:43,352 --> 00:04:44,422 you get paid for something. 59 00:04:44,456 --> 00:04:46,009 We'd be playing shows, and there'd be some kind 60 00:04:46,044 --> 00:04:49,565 of ruckus, and some drunk guy in a corner doing something 61 00:04:49,599 --> 00:04:52,050 that he shouldn't be doing, who the hell is that guy? 62 00:04:52,084 --> 00:04:54,155 "That guy, well, that's our manager, 63 00:04:54,190 --> 00:04:55,916 "you're gonna be paying him later." 64 00:04:57,607 --> 00:04:59,333 What's the Bob show? 65 00:04:59,368 --> 00:05:02,060 Oh, just when things just start happening, 66 00:05:02,094 --> 00:05:04,614 where he gets a little drunk, and all of a sudden, 67 00:05:04,649 --> 00:05:07,548 like a chair gets broken, or a bottle gets broken, 68 00:05:07,583 --> 00:05:10,275 or a window, or-- Thing get lit on fire. 69 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:13,209 A knife gets thrown. Darts and apples on heads. 70 00:05:14,728 --> 00:05:18,387 So Bob Whittaker was the fifth member of Mudhoney. 71 00:05:18,421 --> 00:05:19,871 Even though he wasn't playing music, 72 00:05:19,905 --> 00:05:21,804 he toured with the band, he partied with the band, 73 00:05:21,838 --> 00:05:25,048 he represented Seattle, he represented Mudhoney. 74 00:05:25,083 --> 00:05:27,119 So if you partied with Mudhoney, 75 00:05:27,154 --> 00:05:28,776 you were partying with Whittaker. 76 00:05:29,777 --> 00:05:30,916 Bob! 77 00:05:32,159 --> 00:05:33,263 The fuck is going on in here? 78 00:05:34,264 --> 00:05:39,097 We like to party. 79 00:05:39,718 --> 00:05:40,857 Hey, guy. 80 00:05:40,892 --> 00:05:42,859 One of the times we went down the West Coast 81 00:05:42,894 --> 00:05:46,035 without Bob, everybody at the shows were like, 82 00:05:46,069 --> 00:05:49,107 "Where's Bob," like Bob was more popular than us. 83 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:54,250 Yeah. 84 00:05:54,284 --> 00:05:57,253 I mean, Bob was a legend, 85 00:05:57,287 --> 00:06:00,083 and still is. In his own right. 86 00:06:02,016 --> 00:06:03,604 Okay, here we go. 87 00:06:06,158 --> 00:06:11,129 Let's see, Whittaker, Whittaker. 88 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:16,893 So that's good, this is the only mountain I've ever climbed, 89 00:06:16,928 --> 00:06:19,965 that's Mount Rainier in 19...let's see, 90 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,967 I don't know, I was 17. 91 00:06:22,002 --> 00:06:23,900 I was pretty exhausted, we got to the summit, 92 00:06:23,935 --> 00:06:28,905 and I threw up my breakfast, which was a piece of toast 93 00:06:29,699 --> 00:06:32,564 and a Snickers bar, and then we went down, 94 00:06:32,599 --> 00:06:35,740 and I was like, "God, this is really not that fun." 95 00:06:35,774 --> 00:06:37,500 Oh, rough stuff. 96 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:39,985 We were on tour somewhere, 97 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:41,608 and we were up in Massachusetts, 98 00:06:41,642 --> 00:06:43,506 and he'd just got off the phone with his dad, 99 00:06:43,541 --> 00:06:45,715 and he's like, "We should go visit Rose." 100 00:06:46,889 --> 00:06:48,856 And I go, "What are you talking about, Rose who?" 101 00:06:48,891 --> 00:06:50,375 And he's like, "Oh, Rose Kennedy," 102 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:52,653 and he's like, "I should go to the Kennedy Compound 103 00:06:52,688 --> 00:06:53,965 "and give them a visit," and I go, 104 00:06:53,999 --> 00:06:55,967 "What are you talking about," like, 105 00:06:56,001 --> 00:06:57,555 "how do you know the Kennedys?" 106 00:06:57,589 --> 00:06:58,694 And he's like, 107 00:06:58,728 --> 00:07:00,627 "Oh, well, my dad climbed Mount Everest one time," 108 00:07:00,661 --> 00:07:03,561 and blah blah blah. 109 00:07:28,137 --> 00:07:32,348 Last time I saw my dad was gosh, I don't even recall. 110 00:07:34,971 --> 00:07:39,286 Hey, how are you? Good to see you, Bob. 111 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,632 Nice to see you. 112 00:07:40,667 --> 00:07:42,738 Good to see you. 113 00:07:42,772 --> 00:07:43,566 Hello. 114 00:07:43,601 --> 00:07:44,947 You got your Woolrich on. 115 00:07:44,981 --> 00:07:46,914 Yeah, my Woolrich, how you doing? 116 00:07:46,949 --> 00:07:48,882 How you doing, good, hey, dude. 117 00:07:48,916 --> 00:07:49,676 What's up, bud? 118 00:07:49,710 --> 00:07:50,504 Good to see you. 119 00:07:50,539 --> 00:07:51,401 Yep. 120 00:07:51,436 --> 00:07:52,610 Did you come up last night? 121 00:07:52,644 --> 00:07:54,577 Yeah, it was easier. 122 00:07:58,201 --> 00:07:59,996 Jim Whittaker was mister mountain, 123 00:08:00,031 --> 00:08:02,930 I mean, Mount Rainier, he had been on Everest. 124 00:08:02,965 --> 00:08:05,795 So when you talk about mountains, 125 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:07,348 you talked about Jim Whittaker. 126 00:08:09,730 --> 00:08:13,631 Jim Whittaker was an iconic figure, 127 00:08:13,665 --> 00:08:18,463 the early '60s, and Jim Whittaker being the first American 128 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:20,016 on top of Everest. 129 00:08:20,051 --> 00:08:22,812 Why climb the highest mountain? 130 00:08:22,847 --> 00:08:25,125 Liftoff, we have a liftoff. 131 00:08:25,159 --> 00:08:27,921 It's of a piece with Neil Armstrong walking 132 00:08:27,955 --> 00:08:32,477 on the moon, these events weren't that far apart. 133 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:36,032 I'm at the foot of the ladder. 134 00:08:36,067 --> 00:08:38,172 When you start to know a little bit more 135 00:08:38,207 --> 00:08:41,037 about his identical twin, Lou, 136 00:08:41,072 --> 00:08:46,042 their history of climbing in the 1940s, '50s, 137 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:49,252 back when climbing wasn't popular. 138 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:51,876 And these guys were way out front. 139 00:09:00,505 --> 00:09:03,784 You know, that was recognized in the invitation 140 00:09:03,819 --> 00:09:07,443 to be on that first American expedition on Everest. 141 00:09:09,445 --> 00:09:13,449 No surprise that Jim Whittaker ended up leading the charge 142 00:09:13,483 --> 00:09:17,246 to the Summit. 143 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:31,225 "Awarded to the American Mount Everest Expedition, 1963, 144 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:34,574 "Norman G. Dyhrenfurth, leader for outstanding contributions 145 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:37,991 "to geography through high altitude research 146 00:09:38,025 --> 00:09:41,546 "and exploration, conquests of earth's highest peak 147 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:45,274 "by six courageous climbers, pioneering a West Ridge route, 148 00:09:45,308 --> 00:09:47,345 "and making the first Summit traverse." 149 00:09:50,244 --> 00:09:51,211 Pretty cool. 150 00:09:51,245 --> 00:09:53,593 I have a great relationship with my dad. 151 00:09:53,627 --> 00:09:56,457 I've spent a lot of time kind of trying to live up 152 00:09:56,492 --> 00:09:59,288 to the legacy that he's passed down to me. 153 00:10:00,358 --> 00:10:02,256 And honestly, I mean, trying to make him proud, 154 00:10:02,291 --> 00:10:03,810 I think like every son does. 155 00:10:06,226 --> 00:10:07,986 Boy, there's no snow out there, huh? 156 00:10:09,229 --> 00:10:10,679 No, look at the mountains, 157 00:10:10,713 --> 00:10:13,992 there's not a lot of snow at all. 158 00:10:14,027 --> 00:10:17,893 Jim was a type of person, he was always climbing 159 00:10:17,927 --> 00:10:22,898 with adults, and it was his livelihood. 160 00:10:25,417 --> 00:10:29,905 I'm sure it was tough for somebody like Jim Whittaker 161 00:10:29,939 --> 00:10:33,356 to start a family, and then the nature 162 00:10:33,391 --> 00:10:36,843 of your thing you excel at is being halfway 163 00:10:36,877 --> 00:10:40,743 around the world for extended periods of time. 164 00:10:40,778 --> 00:10:43,539 I think Bobby had a really different upbringing 165 00:10:43,573 --> 00:10:47,232 than I did, I'm guessing it was probably harder 166 00:10:47,267 --> 00:10:48,924 in many ways. 167 00:10:48,958 --> 00:10:51,547 Bobby went out on his own pretty early, 168 00:10:51,581 --> 00:10:55,344 at 18, he left that relationship, and went 169 00:10:55,378 --> 00:10:58,830 and lived on his own, paid for his own place, 170 00:10:58,865 --> 00:11:03,007 didn't ask anyone for money, and was off and running. 171 00:11:04,111 --> 00:11:07,321 I have had a very distant relationship with my father 172 00:11:07,356 --> 00:11:11,636 since I lived with him briefly for my high school years. 173 00:11:12,637 --> 00:11:16,123 Not only was he building the franchise of REI, 174 00:11:16,158 --> 00:11:19,748 but he was an outdoor adventurer, that was his industry. 175 00:11:19,782 --> 00:11:24,684 So leaving, being gone for large chunks of time was 176 00:11:24,718 --> 00:11:28,066 his work, that's incredibly difficult and taxing. 177 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:31,173 It took a bite out of me for decades. 178 00:11:32,346 --> 00:11:33,762 I think it did him too, you know? 179 00:11:33,796 --> 00:11:35,315 It's nice to be a part of something, 180 00:11:35,349 --> 00:11:37,317 and it's hard to remain a part of something 181 00:11:37,351 --> 00:11:39,871 when you keep leaving your hometown or your family. 182 00:11:41,183 --> 00:11:45,981 Starting with the presidents, there's Eisenhower here, 183 00:11:46,015 --> 00:11:48,121 and then there's Clinton, President Clinton, 184 00:11:48,155 --> 00:11:49,950 there's President Reagan. 185 00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:51,227 I like your rain jacket, 186 00:11:51,262 --> 00:11:54,334 it looks like a 97 cent Kmart rain jacket, 187 00:11:54,368 --> 00:11:56,750 he was the first American to climb Mount Everest 188 00:11:56,785 --> 00:11:59,235 in an old lady's rain slicker. 189 00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:03,101 You met him on the plane? 190 00:12:03,136 --> 00:12:07,002 Yeah, I met Bobby at Sea-Tac. 191 00:12:10,868 --> 00:12:13,629 Is that at Sun Valley with Bobby and John Glenn? 192 00:12:13,663 --> 00:12:18,634 Yeah. 193 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:22,707 And that's at the tennis club, Christopher's there, I think. 194 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:23,777 Chris Kennedy? 195 00:12:23,812 --> 00:12:25,606 Yeah, that's Chris. 196 00:12:26,815 --> 00:12:28,471 My father had the same feeling 197 00:12:28,506 --> 00:12:31,440 about people like Jim Whittaker, John Glenn 198 00:12:31,474 --> 00:12:34,926 and others that became his lifelong friends. 199 00:12:34,961 --> 00:12:36,928 He wouldn't want to do what they did, 200 00:12:36,963 --> 00:12:39,379 but he liked them for having done it. 201 00:12:40,863 --> 00:12:41,795 Is this-- 202 00:12:41,830 --> 00:12:43,763 Okay, this is when we first met. 203 00:12:52,392 --> 00:12:54,256 I showed you this one, I guess, from, 204 00:12:55,084 --> 00:12:57,500 "'How dull it is to pause, to make an end. 205 00:12:59,192 --> 00:13:04,197 "'To rust unburnish'd, not to shine in use! 206 00:13:04,818 --> 00:13:06,613 "'As though to breathe were life.' 207 00:13:07,683 --> 00:13:09,996 "To Seek a Newer World. When we find it, 208 00:13:10,030 --> 00:13:11,963 "I trust you will haul me up it. 209 00:13:11,998 --> 00:13:13,931 "From his friend, Bob Kennedy." 210 00:13:32,881 --> 00:13:35,987 This is where I live, not like the Yukon, 211 00:13:36,022 --> 00:13:37,747 but next best thing. 212 00:13:39,646 --> 00:13:43,167 Here is, not this page, it says. 213 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,687 Here we are at the airport. 214 00:13:46,722 --> 00:13:47,585 That's you and Kennedy? 215 00:13:47,619 --> 00:13:50,346 Yes, I have to keep pinching myself 216 00:13:50,381 --> 00:13:52,417 to see whether I actually was there or not, 217 00:13:52,452 --> 00:13:55,835 it's been 50 years, and it almost seems like 218 00:13:55,869 --> 00:13:57,975 we were up there just a few years ago. 219 00:14:04,947 --> 00:14:05,983 This was the scene 220 00:14:06,017 --> 00:14:08,709 at Arlington National Cemetery, Washington. 221 00:14:08,744 --> 00:14:10,401 John F. Kennedy, the president, 222 00:14:10,435 --> 00:14:13,438 had been torn from life by an assassin's bullet. 223 00:14:13,473 --> 00:14:15,889 His brother, Robert, paid homage to a great man 224 00:14:15,924 --> 00:14:18,202 who had set himself so many noble tasks, 225 00:14:18,236 --> 00:14:20,756 but whom fate had not allowed to carry them out. 226 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:27,280 Canadians were just as tragically stricken 227 00:14:27,314 --> 00:14:28,937 as the Americans were, when they heard 228 00:14:28,971 --> 00:14:32,319 of the assassination, they wanted to do something. 229 00:14:32,354 --> 00:14:33,631 Prime Minister Lester Pearson, 230 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:37,600 on November 20th, 1964, came to the floor of the House, 231 00:14:37,635 --> 00:14:39,395 said that, "I think it's very appropriate, 232 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:41,811 "my fellow commoners, that we find 233 00:14:41,846 --> 00:14:44,193 "an unclimbed mountain somewhere in Canada, 234 00:14:44,228 --> 00:14:46,230 "a suitable mountain, climb it, 235 00:14:46,264 --> 00:14:49,474 "claim it, and then map the area." 236 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:51,752 You know, the Canadians weren't sure 237 00:14:51,787 --> 00:14:52,892 of what mountains had been climbed 238 00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:54,686 and which hadn't been climbed and everything. 239 00:14:54,721 --> 00:14:57,206 Bradford Washburn, the Director of Boston Museum of Science, 240 00:14:57,241 --> 00:15:00,002 said, "I've got a peak in the Saint Elias range 241 00:15:00,037 --> 00:15:01,486 "that looks like a mountain," he says, 242 00:15:01,521 --> 00:15:03,247 "it looks like the Matterhorn, 243 00:15:03,281 --> 00:15:06,388 "and there's a plume of snow blowing off the summit, 244 00:15:06,422 --> 00:15:07,630 "there's your mountain." 245 00:15:09,322 --> 00:15:11,462 This was the peak that the government 246 00:15:11,496 --> 00:15:15,845 of Canada was to name in honor of President John F. Kennedy, 247 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,400 partly because of its beauty, and partly 248 00:15:18,434 --> 00:15:22,231 because its position, almost on the international frontier, 249 00:15:22,266 --> 00:15:25,545 symbolized the friendship between our two great nations, 250 00:15:25,579 --> 00:15:28,306 which President Kennedy so fervently espoused. 251 00:15:33,311 --> 00:15:35,796 There's what got me mapping with Brad Washburn. 252 00:15:36,763 --> 00:15:38,247 We did this one, 253 00:15:38,282 --> 00:15:40,836 this is the mountains right here around the house. 254 00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:42,355 Why do you like maps? 255 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:44,840 Oh, I don't know, they tell you a lot. 256 00:15:46,014 --> 00:15:47,394 Maps tell you an awful lot. 257 00:15:49,017 --> 00:15:51,605 Especially if you know what goes into it, 258 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,262 then you can pick up the map years later, 259 00:15:53,297 --> 00:15:55,264 and you can put your finger on any point, 260 00:15:55,299 --> 00:15:58,336 and you say, "Oh, yes, I remember the day we were there, 261 00:15:58,371 --> 00:16:00,269 "I remember the angle that we turned. 262 00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:02,444 "I remember the distance it was." 263 00:16:02,478 --> 00:16:04,135 And you can always go back to the map. 264 00:16:04,170 --> 00:16:05,965 It's sort of, I guess in a way, 265 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:08,208 sort of like going back to nature. 266 00:16:09,485 --> 00:16:12,799 Bradford Washburn ran the museum in Boston, 267 00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:17,079 and his new United States Senator was Ted Kennedy. 268 00:16:17,114 --> 00:16:18,908 Bradford invited him to be part of 269 00:16:18,943 --> 00:16:21,911 that mapping exercise the following March. 270 00:16:23,051 --> 00:16:25,053 Teddy was in a terrible plane crash 271 00:16:25,087 --> 00:16:28,988 in Western Massachusetts, he lived, 272 00:16:29,022 --> 00:16:31,369 but he was unable to go. 273 00:16:31,404 --> 00:16:33,958 So I think he persuaded my father to do that, 274 00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:37,375 that was not something my father naturally wanted to do. 275 00:16:37,410 --> 00:16:39,481 And so I was working for Bradford Washburn, 276 00:16:39,515 --> 00:16:42,967 and in the midst of it all, I get a call, 277 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:45,280 "How would you like to go to the Yukon? 278 00:16:45,314 --> 00:16:46,833 "We're gonna have a little expedition, 279 00:16:46,867 --> 00:16:48,421 "we're gonna map the area, 280 00:16:48,455 --> 00:16:50,009 "and you're not gonna believe this, 281 00:16:50,043 --> 00:16:53,633 "but Senator Robert Kennedy has expressed a desire, 282 00:16:53,667 --> 00:16:56,222 "he would like to be the first one on the mountain." 283 00:16:56,256 --> 00:16:59,087 And I said, "I didn't know he climbed mountains." 284 00:16:59,121 --> 00:17:00,536 He says, "He doesn't." 285 00:17:01,537 --> 00:17:03,332 Why is this, after so many years, 286 00:17:03,367 --> 00:17:04,437 and so much climbing around this area, 287 00:17:04,471 --> 00:17:06,853 why has Mount Kennedy been left? 288 00:17:06,887 --> 00:17:11,030 It's inaccessible, has only recently been named. 289 00:17:12,652 --> 00:17:16,725 As an individual peak, and 290 00:17:16,759 --> 00:17:18,451 of course, naming it, 291 00:17:18,485 --> 00:17:23,456 Kennedy has made it quite an attractive climb. 292 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:26,666 The reason we wanted to climb it was it was named 293 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:29,082 after the president of the United States, 294 00:17:29,117 --> 00:17:30,808 and it had never been climbed before. 295 00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:33,707 That's a perfect goal for a mountaineer. 296 00:17:33,742 --> 00:17:36,434 Is this the best time of the year to do this? 297 00:17:36,469 --> 00:17:39,713 Well, it's better than somewhat earlier. 298 00:17:39,748 --> 00:17:41,336 Temperatures should not get any lower 299 00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:42,854 than 35 below zero... 300 00:17:44,718 --> 00:17:46,755 Does experience fom Mount Everest help you 301 00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:48,412 in this climb? It doesn't hurt. 302 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:52,209 We went to get the copies of maps 303 00:17:52,243 --> 00:17:55,557 from the Department of Mines and Technical Surveys 304 00:17:55,591 --> 00:17:57,455 and there are these beautiful maps 305 00:17:57,490 --> 00:17:59,492 that were only about half colored in. 306 00:17:59,526 --> 00:18:01,839 The other half of the map were huge areas 307 00:18:01,873 --> 00:18:05,187 of white space, and in parentheses were the words, 308 00:18:05,222 --> 00:18:09,812 "Area unexplored, probably mountains and glaciers." 309 00:18:09,847 --> 00:18:11,228 How about Senator Kennedy? 310 00:18:11,262 --> 00:18:12,436 Is he going to join you? 311 00:18:13,575 --> 00:18:15,715 There is a good chance that he will, yes. 312 00:18:17,717 --> 00:18:19,581 So I get the call saying, 313 00:18:19,615 --> 00:18:22,618 "Could Senator Kennedy come on the climb?" 314 00:18:22,653 --> 00:18:26,208 And so I said, "Oh, sure, has he ever climbed before?" 315 00:18:26,243 --> 00:18:28,659 And he said, "No," and I said, 316 00:18:28,693 --> 00:18:30,247 "Does he know the mountain has never been climbed?" 317 00:18:30,281 --> 00:18:32,490 He says, "Yeah, I think," and I said, 318 00:18:32,525 --> 00:18:33,836 "He still wants to go?" 319 00:18:33,871 --> 00:18:35,252 He said, "Yeah," I said, "Okay." 320 00:18:35,286 --> 00:18:36,908 And that's when I called him, 321 00:18:36,943 --> 00:18:38,151 and said, "What are you gonna do, 322 00:18:38,186 --> 00:18:39,359 "are you getting in shape, Senator?" 323 00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,706 And he said, "Yeah, I'm running up and down the stairs, 324 00:18:41,741 --> 00:18:44,157 "practicing hollering help," 325 00:18:44,192 --> 00:18:46,332 and yeah, I thought, oh, boy. 326 00:18:47,402 --> 00:18:48,817 Here's the team, there's Jim Whittaker, 327 00:18:48,851 --> 00:18:52,096 the Senator, and I'm in the back row there. 328 00:18:54,305 --> 00:18:57,205 It was a coming together, it was a coming together 329 00:18:57,239 --> 00:19:01,105 of ideology, it was a coming together in sorrow. 330 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,625 It was just one more situation where Canada 331 00:19:03,659 --> 00:19:06,041 and the US are the best of neighbors, 332 00:19:06,075 --> 00:19:09,424 and the fact that the Canadians went all out on this, 333 00:19:10,287 --> 00:19:12,530 it was a very gracious gesture. 334 00:19:14,118 --> 00:19:15,947 That's what I remember most about it. 335 00:19:27,269 --> 00:19:29,202 You know, we spent a lot of time with Jim 336 00:19:29,237 --> 00:19:33,102 when we were little kids, he talked 337 00:19:33,137 --> 00:19:35,622 about Mount Kennedy, he talked about our father, 338 00:19:35,657 --> 00:19:38,591 about how he handled himself on the mountain, 339 00:19:38,625 --> 00:19:41,249 and that set a high bar for all of the kids. 340 00:19:43,285 --> 00:19:44,390 Look at the slopes, huh? 341 00:19:44,424 --> 00:19:47,358 Yeah, cool snowshoes that you got there. 342 00:19:47,393 --> 00:19:49,395 Yeah. 343 00:19:49,429 --> 00:19:51,845 We were looking at this little gem here, 344 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,089 thinking, well, how can we promote that? 345 00:19:54,123 --> 00:19:55,504 How can we drill back down into that? 346 00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:57,575 There's only been a few pages in National Geographic 347 00:19:57,610 --> 00:19:59,888 about it, a few pages in Life Magazine. 348 00:20:00,992 --> 00:20:03,823 When I was on Everest in 2012 and 2010, 349 00:20:03,857 --> 00:20:05,273 I kind of had these experiences 350 00:20:05,307 --> 00:20:08,172 where I was following in my father's footsteps. 351 00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:10,657 Thinking about Mount Kennedy was really appealing to me 352 00:20:10,692 --> 00:20:13,142 because it was off the beaten path. 353 00:20:13,177 --> 00:20:15,006 Very few people had visited it, I mean, 354 00:20:15,041 --> 00:20:18,596 it's kind of the opposite of Mount Everest in many ways. 355 00:20:18,631 --> 00:20:20,253 Probably Leif and I were speaking to Dad 356 00:20:20,288 --> 00:20:24,292 about going back and doing a 50 years after climb. 357 00:20:24,326 --> 00:20:25,327 The more we talked about it, 358 00:20:25,362 --> 00:20:27,156 the more it sounded like a keen idea. 359 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:31,264 I called up Jim Whittaker and Dianne to try 360 00:20:31,299 --> 00:20:33,646 to have dinner with them, and I thought we were going out 361 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,062 for a friendly drink and dinner, and in the middle 362 00:20:36,096 --> 00:20:39,859 of the thing, Jim started pushing this notion 363 00:20:39,893 --> 00:20:42,689 that this year would be the 50th anniversary of his climb 364 00:20:42,724 --> 00:20:45,244 with my father, and that someone needed to do that. 365 00:20:46,659 --> 00:20:48,557 My Dad basically said we should communicate 366 00:20:48,592 --> 00:20:51,491 with him and gave me his number, so I reached out, 367 00:20:51,526 --> 00:20:53,182 gave him a cold call. 368 00:20:53,217 --> 00:20:54,391 And then some number 369 00:20:54,425 --> 00:20:57,635 from Western Washington got through, and it was Bobby, 370 00:20:57,670 --> 00:21:01,260 trying to confirm the commitment that I'd somehow made. 371 00:21:01,294 --> 00:21:02,640 Here are these Kodachrome pictures 372 00:21:02,675 --> 00:21:05,919 you're looking at, and these stories you've heard, 373 00:21:05,954 --> 00:21:07,576 but the pieces aren't all there. 374 00:21:07,611 --> 00:21:11,304 What about this other aspect, my namesake? 375 00:21:11,339 --> 00:21:13,237 It'll be interesting to see what the mountain looks like 376 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,790 after 50 years. Yeah, really. 377 00:21:15,688 --> 00:21:17,517 There's this notion that you get 378 00:21:17,552 --> 00:21:21,038 from talking to Jim Whittaker that in between commitment 379 00:21:21,072 --> 00:21:25,214 and confidence is character, he would commit to things 380 00:21:25,249 --> 00:21:28,252 that he was not confident that he could complete, 381 00:21:29,357 --> 00:21:31,738 and that is what shaped his character. 382 00:22:00,008 --> 00:22:02,390 Yeah, it's go time. 383 00:22:04,875 --> 00:22:06,842 How do you feel? 384 00:22:06,877 --> 00:22:10,052 Out of shape, fat, old, faded. 385 00:22:12,227 --> 00:22:13,746 But excited. 386 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:14,850 Why do you think Bob wants 387 00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:17,336 to climb Mount Kennedy? 388 00:22:19,614 --> 00:22:22,202 Maybe I don't know Bob that well. 389 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:29,624 What have you gotten me into? 390 00:22:29,658 --> 00:22:32,212 You know, I'm not sure exactly why, 391 00:22:32,247 --> 00:22:37,217 but I know it's important. 392 00:22:51,266 --> 00:22:52,371 Did you ever know Bob 393 00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:56,133 to be a physically fit person, physically active? 394 00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:58,135 Bob to what? 395 00:23:00,758 --> 00:23:03,968 Not only do I sit behind a desk all the time, 396 00:23:05,556 --> 00:23:10,285 I follow that with a five hour dinner of rich food and wine. 397 00:23:11,907 --> 00:23:16,325 My philosophy has always been... Fuck, I never had one. 398 00:23:26,922 --> 00:23:28,890 Once Bobby has set the hook, 399 00:23:28,924 --> 00:23:30,857 you know, he's on his way. 400 00:23:32,721 --> 00:23:35,068 Mountains and wilderness always bring out the best 401 00:23:35,103 --> 00:23:40,108 in people. 402 00:23:40,349 --> 00:23:43,974 Off like a herd of turtles. 403 00:23:49,255 --> 00:23:50,083 Hi. 404 00:23:50,118 --> 00:23:51,153 Hi, how's it going? 405 00:23:51,188 --> 00:23:52,223 Good. 406 00:23:52,258 --> 00:23:53,604 Well, yeah, if you could just fill that out, 407 00:23:53,639 --> 00:23:55,261 and then if you have the insurance card, 408 00:23:55,295 --> 00:23:56,538 I can take a copy of it. 409 00:23:56,573 --> 00:23:58,126 Does stress burn calories, I mean, that's-- 410 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,922 think it does, yeah, I'm pretty sure it does. 411 00:24:00,956 --> 00:24:02,648 I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I can handle this, 412 00:24:02,682 --> 00:24:05,202 You know, I'm gonna ramp up my exercise. 413 00:24:05,236 --> 00:24:06,410 Well, it just doesn't happen, 414 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,239 didn't happen, hasn't happened. 415 00:24:09,378 --> 00:24:12,830 Plus, you're crushingly old at this point too. 416 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:14,314 Yes, I am. 417 00:24:14,349 --> 00:24:18,491 Thank you, I'll follow you, we'll go up there. 418 00:24:18,526 --> 00:24:20,010 Have a seat. 419 00:24:20,044 --> 00:24:22,944 Two things, one, your big picture plan. 420 00:24:22,978 --> 00:24:25,464 Yeah, life's change. 421 00:24:27,535 --> 00:24:29,364 What'd you say? Life change. 422 00:24:29,398 --> 00:24:30,261 Is it? 423 00:24:30,296 --> 00:24:31,090 Simple as that, yeah, pretty much-- 424 00:24:31,124 --> 00:24:32,747 Is it, what have you been doing? 425 00:24:33,955 --> 00:24:36,233 Not exercising enough, that's about it. 426 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:37,717 I feel like I'm in pretty bad shape, 427 00:24:37,752 --> 00:24:41,307 but luckily I quit my job last Friday. 428 00:24:41,341 --> 00:24:42,584 I don't know if he's in a rut, 429 00:24:42,619 --> 00:24:45,760 or if it's a midlife crisis that he's trying to come out of, 430 00:24:45,794 --> 00:24:47,382 or what he's doing. 431 00:24:47,416 --> 00:24:48,556 When's the climb? 432 00:24:48,590 --> 00:24:50,661 May, the first two weeks in May. 433 00:24:50,696 --> 00:24:53,526 Okay, so May 1st is our jump off date, 434 00:24:53,561 --> 00:24:55,045 essentially. Basically, yeah. 435 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,081 In part, I might have put it on my horizon 436 00:24:57,116 --> 00:24:59,428 to give myself a little bit of a pause 437 00:24:59,463 --> 00:25:02,052 or a different direction or a different perspective. 438 00:25:02,086 --> 00:25:03,260 Just squat. I'm a little worried about it 439 00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:05,158 'cause the knee's been bothering me that much. Yes. 440 00:25:05,193 --> 00:25:05,987 So oh, yeah. 441 00:25:06,919 --> 00:25:08,196 So from there, let me have you bend 442 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:10,129 forward like you're gonna touch your toes. 443 00:25:11,337 --> 00:25:14,754 Cool, and then back up, cool, do you stretch? 444 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:16,100 No, God, no. 445 00:25:16,135 --> 00:25:19,310 Good, don't, and then one more on the left side. 446 00:25:20,242 --> 00:25:22,762 Cool, you're doing exceptionally adequate, keep going. 447 00:25:22,797 --> 00:25:25,454 Come on, there we go, own those last few degrees. 448 00:25:25,489 --> 00:25:28,250 Back on your heels, excellent. 449 00:25:28,285 --> 00:25:33,359 This is our timeline, so here's today, 450 00:25:33,393 --> 00:25:37,536 this is May 1st, Mount Kennedy. 451 00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:40,504 I think he's partly going out there 452 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:44,681 to see what he can do, see if he can climb Mount Kennedy, 453 00:25:44,715 --> 00:25:48,063 see if he can handle it physically and emotionally, 454 00:25:48,098 --> 00:25:50,652 and learn something about himself along the way. 455 00:25:51,619 --> 00:25:55,864 He's gonna do this anyway, why don't we just make him 456 00:25:55,899 --> 00:25:58,315 as functional as we can, knees, hips, back, 457 00:25:58,349 --> 00:26:01,421 shoulder, heart, and we go from there? 458 00:26:01,456 --> 00:26:03,251 Finally, a functional Bob. 459 00:26:03,285 --> 00:26:04,321 Yes. 460 00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:05,391 Yeah, that's-- 461 00:26:05,425 --> 00:26:07,876 Physiologically, I can't make any promises. 462 00:26:07,911 --> 00:26:09,740 Do I have time for a cigarette? 463 00:26:09,775 --> 00:26:11,570 Matt, is it rolling? 464 00:26:11,604 --> 00:26:12,467 Yeah. 465 00:26:12,501 --> 00:26:13,917 Is it rolling right now? 466 00:26:13,951 --> 00:26:18,197 What you're about to see is several years 467 00:26:18,231 --> 00:26:23,202 of footage taken of Mudhoney. 468 00:26:24,513 --> 00:26:25,618 We are leaving today. 469 00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:28,000 ♪ My arms are all twisted 470 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:31,624 ♪ The only thing I miss is I messed up ♪ 471 00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:36,629 ♪ I missed it, I messed up the missing of you ♪ 472 00:26:40,012 --> 00:26:43,636 ♪ It's getting to sound like they've seen you ♪ 473 00:26:43,671 --> 00:26:46,501 ♪ around with her 474 00:26:48,848 --> 00:26:49,780 So Bob, 475 00:26:49,815 --> 00:26:51,437 what are you gonna do this whole tour? 476 00:26:51,471 --> 00:26:53,853 I'm just fucking hanging out. 477 00:26:53,888 --> 00:26:57,926 In the same way that Jim helped get REI off the ground, 478 00:26:57,961 --> 00:27:01,723 Bob Whittaker shares a similar drive, 479 00:27:01,758 --> 00:27:05,175 sense of adventure, and a DIY spirit. 480 00:27:06,486 --> 00:27:09,766 He helped get Subpop Records off the ground, 481 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,009 and the grunge culture off the ground. 482 00:27:12,044 --> 00:27:13,839 He was in the trenches, 483 00:27:13,873 --> 00:27:18,913 he was out there representing Seattle back in 1988, 484 00:27:18,947 --> 00:27:21,156 when they went all the way to New York in a van 485 00:27:21,191 --> 00:27:24,712 where all they, the carbon monoxide was funneling back 486 00:27:24,746 --> 00:27:27,991 into the van, and they had to huff that for 3,000 miles. 487 00:27:28,025 --> 00:27:30,269 This is an hour after Bob had 488 00:27:30,303 --> 00:27:31,891 an ice cream cone at McDonald's. 489 00:27:32,754 --> 00:27:36,689 I just like to have a little snack on the road to keep me going. 490 00:27:36,724 --> 00:27:38,898 ♪ Take it away Nick! 491 00:27:47,735 --> 00:27:51,152 ♪ I don't even know what it's like ♪ 492 00:27:51,186 --> 00:27:56,157 ♪ not to go back to you 493 00:27:57,779 --> 00:28:02,128 ♪ I don't even know who I like less ♪ 494 00:28:31,537 --> 00:28:33,573 Working with Mudhoney was incredible. 495 00:28:33,608 --> 00:28:37,025 Traveling in a baby blue $900.00 van turned 496 00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:40,373 into managing Mudhoney, signing them 497 00:28:40,408 --> 00:28:43,342 to Warner Bros. Records, hiring more and more crew 498 00:28:43,376 --> 00:28:46,517 as their career grew, it was pretty cool. 499 00:28:47,449 --> 00:28:49,451 ♪ Rock music 500 00:29:16,582 --> 00:29:17,376 You want some more? 501 00:29:21,104 --> 00:29:23,554 I got, oh, sorry, you want me 502 00:29:23,589 --> 00:29:25,729 to look more tragic back here? 503 00:29:27,351 --> 00:29:31,252 Oh my god, no. This is us in Hawaii. 504 00:29:31,286 --> 00:29:33,426 We went and did a show with Pearl Jam 505 00:29:33,461 --> 00:29:34,945 and I think maybe Sonic Youth. 506 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:37,361 I think I remember Vedder twisting his feet 507 00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:40,157 into the sand so he'd look really short on purpose. 508 00:29:40,192 --> 00:29:41,607 Man, a bunch of ugly white people 509 00:29:41,641 --> 00:29:45,335 from Seattle going to Hawaii is what it was. 510 00:29:45,369 --> 00:29:47,958 That's that. After a while, 511 00:29:47,993 --> 00:29:49,753 some founding members left Mudhoney, 512 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:52,204 and they were taking a break. 513 00:29:52,238 --> 00:29:57,209 I was debating going back to carpentry or who knows what. 514 00:30:01,523 --> 00:30:04,837 And then a job position opened up with REM, 515 00:30:04,872 --> 00:30:06,287 and I went on the road with those guys, 516 00:30:06,321 --> 00:30:08,737 and I ended up tour managing them for 12 years, or something. 517 00:30:18,057 --> 00:30:20,749 ♪ I know you 518 00:30:20,784 --> 00:30:22,855 Bob really, as a tour manager, 519 00:30:22,890 --> 00:30:24,995 kind of stepped into the upper echelons of that. 520 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:27,998 I mean, he was road managing REM, 521 00:30:28,033 --> 00:30:29,413 pretty much the top of the food chain, 522 00:30:29,448 --> 00:30:31,864 as far as alternate music goes. 523 00:30:31,899 --> 00:30:35,350 ♪ She's three miles of bad road ♪ 524 00:30:36,282 --> 00:30:37,663 Over the years I've worked with a lot 525 00:30:37,697 --> 00:30:40,804 of different acts, from Rufus Wainwright, Neko Case, 526 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,979 the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, one of my favorites. 527 00:30:43,013 --> 00:30:47,984 ♪ Meet her, she's a real woman child ♪ 528 00:30:49,813 --> 00:30:53,782 ♪ Oh, my kiss breath turpentine ♪ 529 00:30:53,817 --> 00:30:56,026 I would go on the road, and you're running 530 00:30:56,061 --> 00:30:57,786 on a lot of adrenalin, you've got a lot of people 531 00:30:57,821 --> 00:30:59,892 to worry about, and so you're in three countries 532 00:30:59,927 --> 00:31:04,207 in one day sometimes, and that's been my career. 533 00:31:04,241 --> 00:31:07,693 I would come home, and screeching to a halt wasn't easy. 534 00:31:07,727 --> 00:31:10,144 I'd be wanting to cut in line in the supermarket. 535 00:31:12,905 --> 00:31:16,495 ♪ My crush with eyeliner 536 00:31:16,529 --> 00:31:20,223 The entertainment business in general can be very intense, 537 00:31:20,257 --> 00:31:24,952 and I'm really happy that Bob chose to check out 538 00:31:24,986 --> 00:31:29,577 of that when he did because it'll grind you down. 539 00:31:58,399 --> 00:31:59,607 Growing up, I think Bobby 540 00:31:59,641 --> 00:32:02,196 and I always had actually a pretty strong connection. 541 00:32:04,784 --> 00:32:08,478 We laughed a lot, I just remember him cracking me up, 542 00:32:09,824 --> 00:32:12,068 he's a jokester, a prankster, and he always has been, 543 00:32:12,102 --> 00:32:16,589 and I love that about him. 544 00:32:18,798 --> 00:32:21,111 But we didn't really spend much time together. 545 00:32:30,224 --> 00:32:31,328 Reconnecting with him, 546 00:32:31,363 --> 00:32:33,675 I think he's definitely mellowed out a little bit 547 00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:35,884 and grown up, and I think he's also kind 548 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,991 of grown more connected to the outdoors. 549 00:32:51,797 --> 00:32:56,422 I guess we all grow up eventually and get tired, 550 00:32:56,457 --> 00:32:58,769 too tired to do all the shenanigans 551 00:32:58,804 --> 00:33:00,806 you did when you were young. 552 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,809 Do you think that's it, or do you think he's really matured? 553 00:33:04,948 --> 00:33:08,641 I think it was when he got the place in Ferry County. 554 00:33:24,657 --> 00:33:27,177 For the past 10 years, Bob has been working out 555 00:33:27,212 --> 00:33:30,284 in Ferry County on this trails project. 556 00:33:30,318 --> 00:33:34,115 It's a 30 mile trail that's open to the general public. 557 00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,084 It's an amazing project. Bob had the vision 558 00:33:37,118 --> 00:33:40,156 to make this happen, and he had the political will 559 00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:42,296 to get it passed. 560 00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:45,299 His passion is now wilderness. 561 00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:48,371 He's a lot like his dad in many ways. 562 00:33:56,482 --> 00:33:59,692 In REM, I found a lot more dovetailing 563 00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:04,490 of that punk idealism in civic duty and community. 564 00:34:04,525 --> 00:34:07,045 Those guys are huge with giving back to the community 565 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,875 and making an effort in their town of Athens, Georgia. 566 00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:11,842 And so I learned a lot from those guys. 567 00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:15,605 There's a disconnect that's happened over the years, 568 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,021 there needs to be a greater focus on public lands, 569 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:20,851 there needs to be a greater focus on outdoor activity, 570 00:34:20,886 --> 00:34:23,785 and focusing on that project and seeing it to fruition. 571 00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:26,029 I mean, it's legacy work, it's taken forever. 572 00:34:28,963 --> 00:34:32,242 It's all culminating in this trail for me. 573 00:34:32,277 --> 00:34:34,279 Came full circle, I was like, aha, 574 00:34:34,313 --> 00:34:38,386 this is why I do this, because of these chuckle heads 575 00:34:38,421 --> 00:34:41,251 in 1965 that met on Mount Kennedy. 576 00:34:45,428 --> 00:34:46,705 Jim, what do you think 577 00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:49,846 about your sons following in your footsteps on this climb? 578 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,091 I'm proud of them, you bet, I think it's great. 579 00:34:54,782 --> 00:34:56,370 I mean, any excuse to get out 580 00:34:56,404 --> 00:34:58,130 and climb mountains, what the heck? 581 00:34:59,027 --> 00:35:01,168 Enjoy this magical planet. 582 00:35:12,386 --> 00:35:13,697 Hey. 583 00:35:13,732 --> 00:35:16,217 Hey, man, how's it going? 584 00:35:16,252 --> 00:35:18,944 Good to see you. Let's do it. 585 00:35:18,978 --> 00:35:21,222 Yeah, get on the road. 586 00:35:21,257 --> 00:35:25,261 After 50 years, this becomes the culmination, 587 00:35:25,295 --> 00:35:28,885 the final chapter of the Mount Kennedy Yukon expedition. 588 00:35:28,919 --> 00:35:33,890 ♪ What you're looking for won't be found easily ♪ 589 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:41,139 ♪ It grows upon the mountain in a sacred place ♪ 590 00:35:43,969 --> 00:35:48,974 ♪ Up beyond the clouds, in ancient grounds, so they say ♪ 591 00:35:51,183 --> 00:35:56,084 ♪ And many men have died trekking up that way ♪ 592 00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:08,062 Thought you had a friend...fuck. 593 00:36:08,096 --> 00:36:09,477 Holy shit. 594 00:36:09,512 --> 00:36:10,720 That's a lot taller than I-- 595 00:36:10,754 --> 00:36:13,723 Where are we going, the Yukan, Yucatan? 596 00:36:17,865 --> 00:36:21,179 Oops, they're big 597 00:36:25,735 --> 00:36:26,563 Is that it? 598 00:36:26,598 --> 00:36:27,392 Yep. 599 00:36:27,426 --> 00:36:31,119 Thank you. 600 00:36:31,154 --> 00:36:32,742 Ugh, I feel sick. 601 00:36:35,779 --> 00:36:38,057 I don't know why I haven't been losing weight. 602 00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:43,028 Fucking dick, all right, yeah, let's go there. 603 00:36:43,925 --> 00:36:48,930 Dude, all right, I'm done, I'm done. 604 00:37:04,877 --> 00:37:06,638 Forbiddingly, standing 14,000 feet 605 00:37:06,672 --> 00:37:09,123 in the frozen Yukon, is Mount Kennedy, 606 00:37:09,157 --> 00:37:10,952 named after the late president. 607 00:37:10,987 --> 00:37:13,576 Highest unclimbed peak in the North American continent, 608 00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:15,992 its challenge is now accepted by another Kennedy, 609 00:37:16,026 --> 00:37:19,892 Senator Robert. 610 00:37:29,523 --> 00:37:34,493 When I first met Bobby, he flew in from Washington, DC. 611 00:38:00,830 --> 00:38:02,590 You've gotta be afraid of heights, 612 00:38:02,625 --> 00:38:05,386 that's a blessing because I wouldn't climb with you, 613 00:38:05,421 --> 00:38:07,112 I wouldn't rope up with you if you weren't 614 00:38:07,146 --> 00:38:09,425 because you'd kill us. 615 00:38:09,459 --> 00:38:14,464 Yeah, Jim Whittaker, I'll bet he knew the pressure was on, 616 00:38:15,569 --> 00:38:18,054 taking Robert Kennedy out in the mountains. 617 00:38:19,987 --> 00:38:21,885 These weren't lessons that he was learning 618 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,164 for the first time, that there was a lot on the line, 619 00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:29,824 and that public failure wasn't acceptable. 620 00:38:29,859 --> 00:38:31,999 When I say that, I don't mean getting 621 00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:34,001 to the top of a mountain or not, 622 00:38:34,035 --> 00:38:36,659 but I mean hurting an important person, 623 00:38:36,693 --> 00:38:39,075 or getting an important person killed. 624 00:38:46,289 --> 00:38:49,085 We flew into Whitehorse. 625 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:53,538 That was where we were looking for our next way 626 00:38:53,572 --> 00:38:56,195 into the base of the mountain in a chopper. 627 00:38:56,230 --> 00:39:00,234 I remember Brad was influential in getting us a flight in 628 00:39:00,268 --> 00:39:02,512 because the ski plane couldn't make it, 629 00:39:02,547 --> 00:39:04,894 but the Canadian Air Force chopper was sitting there, 630 00:39:04,928 --> 00:39:08,207 idling, and Washburn walked over, I saw him talking 631 00:39:08,242 --> 00:39:09,899 to the pilot, and he comes back, 632 00:39:09,933 --> 00:39:11,383 he said, "we've got a ride." 633 00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:22,877 I had never seen anything like it. 634 00:39:22,912 --> 00:39:26,156 Flying over these glaciers, no, 635 00:39:26,191 --> 00:39:28,918 I mean, I had never seen anything like the Yukon, 636 00:39:28,952 --> 00:39:33,198 never seen anything like it. 637 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:40,999 A helicopter made the first 9,000 feet 638 00:39:41,033 --> 00:39:43,657 the easiest, bringing the Senator, his fellow climbers, 639 00:39:43,691 --> 00:39:46,142 and all the gear up to the first base camp. 640 00:39:50,077 --> 00:39:51,492 Though not a mountain climber, 641 00:39:51,527 --> 00:39:53,805 Robert Kennedy gladly accepted the invitation 642 00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,911 to be the first man at the hitherto unconquered summit. 643 00:39:56,946 --> 00:39:58,810 All he had to do now was to get there, 644 00:39:58,844 --> 00:40:01,191 an undertaking that would have daunted most men new 645 00:40:01,226 --> 00:40:03,711 to mountain climbing, a remarkable family, 646 00:40:03,746 --> 00:40:05,782 these Kennedys, with a habit of accomplishing 647 00:40:05,817 --> 00:40:07,474 whatever they set out to do. 648 00:40:07,508 --> 00:40:09,924 Jim Whittaker, first American to climb Everest, 649 00:40:09,959 --> 00:40:11,581 is in charge of the expedition. 650 00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:16,621 There was a little bit of training required. 651 00:40:16,655 --> 00:40:19,520 Don't step on your rope with your crampons on. 652 00:40:19,555 --> 00:40:21,384 Keep your head down, keep breathing. 653 00:40:22,937 --> 00:40:25,595 I think the Senator was quite taken with Jim. 654 00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:30,117 On the plane, we got to know each other, 655 00:40:30,151 --> 00:40:32,947 and then of course, on the mountain, when you climb 656 00:40:32,982 --> 00:40:35,260 on a serious mountain, you develop this thing. 657 00:40:36,641 --> 00:40:39,126 In a way, they were an odd couple. 658 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,647 In a way, they sort of admired each other's profession. 659 00:40:42,681 --> 00:40:44,338 Of course, the senator would say to Jim, 660 00:40:44,372 --> 00:40:47,272 "Boy, this is a mighty hazardous occupation 661 00:40:47,306 --> 00:40:49,239 "that you've chosen here, I mean, 662 00:40:49,274 --> 00:40:50,655 "this is dangerous stuff you're doing, 663 00:40:50,689 --> 00:40:52,967 "you could lose your life doing this." 664 00:40:53,002 --> 00:40:57,247 Very ironic observation. 665 00:40:57,282 --> 00:40:59,560 It was a gorgeous, chilly spring day, 666 00:40:59,595 --> 00:41:02,701 temperature a dip below zero, with a brisk little wind out 667 00:41:02,736 --> 00:41:06,084 of the north. 668 00:41:06,118 --> 00:41:07,637 And the weather was beautiful, 669 00:41:07,672 --> 00:41:10,985 God, it was nice weather, and just a light wind, 670 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:12,504 maybe five knots. 671 00:41:15,645 --> 00:41:19,649 At 13,000 feet, you come to a great plateau out 672 00:41:19,684 --> 00:41:23,446 of which the summit pyramid of Mount Kennedy rises. 673 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:27,001 Here they stop, rearrange their ropes, 674 00:41:27,036 --> 00:41:29,417 put on ice creepers, and prepared 675 00:41:29,452 --> 00:41:32,524 for the ascent of this final summit pyramid 676 00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,734 that rose about 800 feet out of the glacier. 677 00:41:36,597 --> 00:41:39,945 Jim Whittaker, ahead, Senator Kennedy, second. 678 00:41:41,671 --> 00:41:45,848 Coming up, it's really steep, and I was sure he'd fall. 679 00:41:45,882 --> 00:41:48,644 It's hairy 'cause it drops off on each side. 680 00:41:50,059 --> 00:41:52,544 So I was waiting for him to fall, 681 00:41:52,579 --> 00:41:55,029 but he didn't, he came right up in my steps. 682 00:41:56,652 --> 00:41:59,793 And he's walking up, and I said, "Stop there. 683 00:41:59,827 --> 00:42:03,210 "That's the summit, Bobby, and it's your mountain, 684 00:42:03,244 --> 00:42:05,799 "you go first, you go first." 685 00:42:30,513 --> 00:42:33,999 I was so delighted 'cause I'd wanted him to get up there, 686 00:42:34,034 --> 00:42:35,829 and so he was the first human being 687 00:42:35,863 --> 00:42:38,176 to stand on the peak named after his brother. 688 00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:41,317 I mean, that's one of the -- where the tears freeze 689 00:42:41,351 --> 00:42:45,873 on the parka, you just, we were bawling. 690 00:42:47,047 --> 00:42:49,428 And that was really emotional. 691 00:43:49,419 --> 00:43:53,941 These days, we all talk about how adventurous we are, 692 00:43:53,976 --> 00:43:56,047 but when you're smacked in the face 693 00:43:56,081 --> 00:43:59,671 with the repercussions of adventure, 694 00:43:59,706 --> 00:44:02,087 which involves making mistakes and dealing 695 00:44:02,122 --> 00:44:05,194 with the consequences, that's a different thing. 696 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,612 Mount Kennedy is so rarely climbed, 697 00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:11,683 and there's so little known about it. 698 00:44:11,718 --> 00:44:15,480 There's been maybe 30 expeditions in history up there. 699 00:44:17,137 --> 00:44:18,828 It was really hard to know 700 00:44:18,863 --> 00:44:20,588 what we were getting ourselves into. 701 00:44:26,525 --> 00:44:27,423 Good to see you. 702 00:44:27,457 --> 00:44:29,839 Yeah, pleasure, I'm glad you made it. 703 00:44:29,874 --> 00:44:33,740 Yeah, well, you know, I had to fly from Chicago 704 00:44:33,774 --> 00:44:37,433 to Vancouver, and then Vancouver to Whitehorse. 705 00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:39,090 But the most dangerous part was the last-- 706 00:44:39,124 --> 00:44:41,471 Driving with Bobby? 707 00:44:41,506 --> 00:44:43,370 He kept asking me questions. 708 00:44:43,404 --> 00:44:45,821 So we met Brian Jones and Rich, 709 00:44:45,855 --> 00:44:49,031 our two guides that we'd be working with up on the mountain. 710 00:44:49,065 --> 00:44:52,034 We started to sit down and talk about our strategy 711 00:44:52,068 --> 00:44:53,104 for climbing there. 712 00:44:53,138 --> 00:44:54,899 One of my concerns going onto a big mountain 713 00:44:54,933 --> 00:44:57,902 with a group such as this, but what I mean 714 00:44:57,936 --> 00:44:59,593 by such as this is that we've got-- 715 00:44:59,627 --> 00:45:00,801 Careful. 716 00:45:00,836 --> 00:45:03,977 No, well, no, it's a very diverse level of experience. 717 00:45:04,011 --> 00:45:05,737 We've got a lot of different objectives going on here 718 00:45:05,772 --> 00:45:07,325 that we're looking after, ultimately, 719 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:10,017 we all have the same objective, get home. 720 00:45:10,052 --> 00:45:14,228 I was sitting there, and kind of realized, 721 00:45:14,263 --> 00:45:16,714 I'm the youngest person on the team, 722 00:45:16,748 --> 00:45:18,716 but I'm also one of the most experienced. 723 00:45:18,750 --> 00:45:22,167 And I'm responsible for all these people, 724 00:45:22,202 --> 00:45:24,411 like Bobby, who's 18 years older than me, 725 00:45:24,445 --> 00:45:27,172 and Chris, who's more than 20 years older than me, 726 00:45:27,207 --> 00:45:29,623 and thinking of all the things that could go wrong, 727 00:45:29,657 --> 00:45:31,176 and all the things that could happen. 728 00:45:31,211 --> 00:45:33,144 And I didn't sleep much that night. 729 00:45:34,283 --> 00:45:37,251 Once we're on that glacier, there's no guarantees 730 00:45:37,286 --> 00:45:39,184 of when we're coming off. 731 00:45:39,219 --> 00:45:41,773 Brian, who was familiar with the area, 732 00:45:41,808 --> 00:45:44,811 was super candid, very honest about what we were getting 733 00:45:44,845 --> 00:45:47,917 into, but nobody had actually climbed the mountain. 734 00:45:47,952 --> 00:45:50,057 The pilot's plan would be 735 00:45:50,092 --> 00:45:51,507 to come in the back side. 736 00:45:51,541 --> 00:45:53,302 So here's the mountain right there. 737 00:45:53,336 --> 00:45:55,580 Okay, and then he'll come follow these glaciers, 738 00:45:55,614 --> 00:45:57,582 and then come in the cathedral? Yeah. 739 00:45:57,616 --> 00:46:00,688 So many other sports or activities, 740 00:46:00,723 --> 00:46:03,899 the great preparation comes from recreating 741 00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:06,349 in your mind the experience you're about to have. 742 00:46:07,247 --> 00:46:10,491 But for me, the idea of imagining for hours 743 00:46:10,526 --> 00:46:15,462 on end what it's like to stand on that peak is not helpful. 744 00:46:20,225 --> 00:46:22,469 So we sit down for the first meeting with the guides, 745 00:46:22,503 --> 00:46:25,161 and they drop on us that they're very worried 746 00:46:25,196 --> 00:46:27,819 about these two ice falls there have opened up a lot more 747 00:46:27,854 --> 00:46:30,615 since 1965, which makes sense, global warming, 748 00:46:30,649 --> 00:46:33,100 mountains change, whatever, glaciers move. 749 00:46:34,032 --> 00:46:37,587 Well, I'm fine with what he said, and the changes. 750 00:46:37,622 --> 00:46:41,799 You are too. Yeah, I mean, yeah. 751 00:46:42,869 --> 00:46:45,009 We'll be fine. 752 00:46:51,187 --> 00:46:53,534 Can you stop recording? 753 00:47:14,452 --> 00:47:17,524 This is one of the best ones, no one has ever seen. 754 00:47:17,558 --> 00:47:20,078 It's a great picture, and it was on the mountain. 755 00:47:21,252 --> 00:47:24,151 When he came down from the mountain, 756 00:47:24,186 --> 00:47:26,878 Jim was so impressed with Bobby, 757 00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:31,227 and they became really good friends, from that moment on. 758 00:47:31,262 --> 00:47:34,679 ♪ The good, they die young 759 00:47:34,713 --> 00:47:38,752 On that climb, Bobby and my dad both looked up 760 00:47:38,786 --> 00:47:40,133 to each other, admired each other, 761 00:47:40,167 --> 00:47:42,307 and I think inspired each other. 762 00:47:42,342 --> 00:47:43,964 When he went back, he wrote, 763 00:47:43,999 --> 00:47:46,139 "It's such a pleasure to climb with people 764 00:47:46,173 --> 00:47:48,658 "that spend time outdoors, and I'm glad 765 00:47:48,693 --> 00:47:50,591 "that I could join this fraternity 766 00:47:50,626 --> 00:47:53,974 "of those that challenge themselves." 767 00:47:54,009 --> 00:47:56,425 It was so up close and personal, 768 00:47:56,459 --> 00:47:58,530 the relationship my father had with him. 769 00:48:00,567 --> 00:48:03,915 After the climb, Bobby went straight back 770 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:07,160 to Washington, DC, but while they climbed, 771 00:48:07,194 --> 00:48:11,233 they decided that we would go down a river together. 772 00:48:11,267 --> 00:48:13,166 ♪ He's gonna be one day 773 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,652 ♪ Anybody here 774 00:48:16,686 --> 00:48:20,483 ♪ Seen my old friend Bobby 775 00:48:20,518 --> 00:48:24,660 ♪ Can you tell me where he's gone ♪ 776 00:48:25,972 --> 00:48:29,423 This is the Colorado, then there's Bobby, 777 00:48:29,458 --> 00:48:33,980 there's me, there's Jim, our children, their children. 778 00:48:35,326 --> 00:48:39,019 July 4th, 1965, so this is not long 779 00:48:39,054 --> 00:48:42,264 after they climbed Kennedy and became fast friends. 780 00:48:42,298 --> 00:48:44,059 There's John Glenn, and I think my brother, 781 00:48:44,093 --> 00:48:46,958 Scott Whittaker. This is a really pretty photo. 782 00:48:46,993 --> 00:48:48,718 I don't know if the family's ever even seen this, 783 00:48:48,753 --> 00:48:51,238 that's Ethel and Bobby on the river float. 784 00:48:52,067 --> 00:48:53,723 You know, all those river trips, 785 00:48:53,758 --> 00:48:56,174 I don't care how famous the people were, 786 00:48:56,209 --> 00:48:58,797 we all threw our sleeping bags down on the gravel 787 00:48:58,832 --> 00:48:59,867 and went to sleep. 788 00:48:59,902 --> 00:49:02,974 ♪ Seen my old friend Bobby 789 00:49:03,009 --> 00:49:07,806 ♪ Can you tell me where he's gone ♪ 790 00:49:07,841 --> 00:49:09,636 Then they were jet setting, they were in Sun Valley, 791 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:12,432 that's Andy Williams, here's Andy Williams drunk, 792 00:49:12,466 --> 00:49:14,710 mugging Ethel Kennedy. 793 00:49:14,744 --> 00:49:16,436 Bobby Kennedy and my mom, Blanche. 794 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:18,472 Them partying on Onassis' yacht. 795 00:49:19,887 --> 00:49:22,718 Dad and Ethel, 1971, at Christmas somewhere, 796 00:49:22,752 --> 00:49:25,238 it looks like a crappy house, it must have been ours. 797 00:49:25,272 --> 00:49:29,276 ♪ Abraham, Martin and John 798 00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:37,284 You were kind of his way 799 00:49:37,319 --> 00:49:38,837 to get away from all the stress. 800 00:49:38,872 --> 00:49:41,323 In a sense, yeah, that's true. 801 00:49:42,876 --> 00:49:45,292 And that's something that he said to me. 802 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,815 I'm announcing today my candidacy 803 00:49:52,161 --> 00:49:54,232 for the presidency of the United States. 804 00:49:56,269 --> 00:49:59,030 I run because it is now unmistakably clear 805 00:50:00,376 --> 00:50:03,207 that we can change these disastrous, 806 00:50:03,241 --> 00:50:06,693 divisive policies only by changing the men 807 00:50:07,935 --> 00:50:09,213 who are now making them. 808 00:50:11,077 --> 00:50:13,700 You have my father, that comes from a retail background, 809 00:50:13,734 --> 00:50:16,634 he loves the outdoors, and he said he didn't know 810 00:50:16,668 --> 00:50:19,154 he was a Democrat until he met Bobby Kennedy. 811 00:50:19,188 --> 00:50:20,155 To not know you're a Democrat 812 00:50:20,189 --> 00:50:23,054 until you're 35 sounds crazy to me. 813 00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:25,505 Jim was not comfortable being political. 814 00:50:26,816 --> 00:50:28,818 In fact, he told me one time, the only place 815 00:50:28,853 --> 00:50:31,683 he was comfortable was standing next to a tree. 816 00:50:33,340 --> 00:50:36,033 He had a high profile after the Everest climb, 817 00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:39,553 even higher profile after that Kennedy climb. 818 00:50:40,451 --> 00:50:43,592 And so for my father, that took his advocacy 819 00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:45,663 and politics up a notch. 820 00:50:46,767 --> 00:50:49,391 Jim Whittaker was the last person 821 00:50:49,425 --> 00:50:53,671 I'd ever think would become involved in politics. 822 00:50:53,705 --> 00:50:56,536 He just had to kind of come in from the outdoors, 823 00:50:56,570 --> 00:50:58,331 and Bobby went out. 824 00:50:59,677 --> 00:51:02,266 Bobby tapped dad to be his campaign manager 825 00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:03,819 for Washington and Oregon. 826 00:51:04,682 --> 00:51:06,856 I run to seek new policies, 827 00:51:06,891 --> 00:51:10,343 policies to close the gaps that now exist 828 00:51:10,377 --> 00:51:13,691 between black and white, between rich and poor, 829 00:51:14,830 --> 00:51:17,833 between young and old in this country 830 00:51:18,765 --> 00:51:20,870 and around the rest of the world. 831 00:51:20,905 --> 00:51:23,080 Dad, Mom, Bobby, Ethel, 832 00:51:23,114 --> 00:51:24,874 touring the Columbia River, and then on their way 833 00:51:24,909 --> 00:51:27,153 to Portland as a campaign stop. 834 00:51:27,187 --> 00:51:29,672 I was very close to Bobby, and especially 835 00:51:29,707 --> 00:51:32,330 on the campaign, he always called me Madge, 836 00:51:32,365 --> 00:51:34,539 never Blanche, changed my name. 837 00:51:35,506 --> 00:51:36,403 There's images 838 00:51:36,438 --> 00:51:39,820 where my dad's almost bodyguard esque, 839 00:51:39,855 --> 00:51:41,098 this tall guy with Bobby. 840 00:51:42,202 --> 00:51:45,171 There's all these amazing stories. 841 00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:46,965 We just all got along, 842 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,453 and I'm a better person for knowing Bobby and Ethel. 843 00:51:52,454 --> 00:51:54,663 I'd say that there's this notion of, 844 00:51:54,697 --> 00:51:57,148 what are we doing to protect the world 845 00:51:57,183 --> 00:51:59,702 that we all share, and that was not 846 00:51:59,737 --> 00:52:03,189 in the American consciousness in the 1960s. 847 00:52:03,223 --> 00:52:05,812 There are laws that we can pass about dumping 848 00:52:05,846 --> 00:52:10,161 and throwing refuse in lakes and streams and into the air. 849 00:52:10,196 --> 00:52:11,921 And I think that's what's going 850 00:52:11,956 --> 00:52:13,268 to make the difference in this country. 851 00:52:14,234 --> 00:52:16,029 Jim Whittaker influenced my father, 852 00:52:16,063 --> 00:52:20,378 and his whole life has been about protecting our planet. 853 00:52:20,413 --> 00:52:22,725 And to do that, he knew we all needed to get out 854 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,726 and see the place. 855 00:52:45,472 --> 00:52:47,750 I think at this point, probably we're gonna end up landing 856 00:52:47,785 --> 00:52:51,685 at 8,700 feet, right where Bobby Kennedy 857 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,137 and Jim Whittaker landed 50 years ago. 858 00:53:09,703 --> 00:53:12,361 I'm so excited, this has been a long time coming, 859 00:53:12,396 --> 00:53:13,535 50 years in the making. 860 00:53:15,502 --> 00:53:18,091 When we were kids and we wanted 861 00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:20,507 to challenge each other, we would declare an event 862 00:53:20,542 --> 00:53:24,580 or an obstacle or an impossibility a Whittaker Challenge. 863 00:53:24,615 --> 00:53:27,928 And if something was declared a Whittaker Challenge, 864 00:53:27,963 --> 00:53:32,933 you had to try it. That tradition's been passed along 865 00:53:33,140 --> 00:53:36,454 from my generation to the next, and every single one 866 00:53:36,489 --> 00:53:38,974 of them is a better person as a result of it. 867 00:53:40,838 --> 00:53:43,703 Tomorrow is my Whittaker Challenge. 868 00:54:09,625 --> 00:54:11,938 At around 6,000 feet, 869 00:54:11,972 --> 00:54:14,423 and we're a ways from . 870 00:54:17,323 --> 00:54:19,704 Yeah, I think we're gonna go left here 871 00:54:19,739 --> 00:54:21,879 dangerous that way, 872 00:54:21,913 --> 00:54:23,984 it's actually looking pretty good. 873 00:54:24,019 --> 00:54:26,711 There it is, yep, just like that. 874 00:55:03,748 --> 00:55:05,371 Yep, we're . 875 00:55:05,405 --> 00:55:06,751 Thank you. 876 00:55:46,584 --> 00:55:48,862 I've never felt so remote, 877 00:55:48,897 --> 00:55:52,072 so far away from help, so isolated 878 00:55:52,107 --> 00:55:53,867 as when that helicopter took off. 879 00:55:59,045 --> 00:56:01,116 Your dad, Leif and Bobby's dad, 880 00:56:01,150 --> 00:56:02,773 they would have taken the route on up through here, 881 00:56:02,807 --> 00:56:04,050 as well, so. Yeah? 882 00:56:04,982 --> 00:56:06,846 Following into your dad's footsteps. 883 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,674 Nice. 884 00:56:07,709 --> 00:56:08,503 Quite literally here. 885 00:56:08,537 --> 00:56:09,952 Yeah, couldn't be happier. 886 00:56:12,817 --> 00:56:14,888 What we're doing is our packing our sleds, 887 00:56:14,923 --> 00:56:18,029 to take a few loads to the base camp. 888 00:56:18,064 --> 00:56:21,032 This is the drop zone, where the helicopter is. 889 00:56:21,067 --> 00:56:22,551 It's not all that ideal 890 00:56:22,586 --> 00:56:25,658 'cause there's some high hanging ice up there. 891 00:56:25,692 --> 00:56:27,901 So are you scared of those things up there? 892 00:56:28,764 --> 00:56:30,904 No, there's not much debris down there, 893 00:56:30,939 --> 00:56:33,597 but later in the summer, later in the summer, 894 00:56:33,631 --> 00:56:35,978 they might warm up, start dropping like flies. 895 00:56:37,428 --> 00:56:41,467 Hell, yes, I'm scared, Jesus Christ, look at them. 896 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,088 So the plan is, pending weather, 897 00:57:17,123 --> 00:57:18,400 we'll get up in the morning, 898 00:57:18,435 --> 00:57:20,402 and just take our time going up, 899 00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:22,266 assessing the route as we go. 900 00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:24,751 I'm thinking it's gonna take two to three hours 901 00:57:24,786 --> 00:57:26,753 to get to the final steep pitch 902 00:57:26,788 --> 00:57:29,342 that gets us up onto the summit plateau. 903 00:57:29,376 --> 00:57:31,655 That part where your dad talked about looking down 904 00:57:31,689 --> 00:57:36,487 at the exposure, and just being terrified, 905 00:57:36,522 --> 00:57:38,351 wondering what he got into, I think that's 906 00:57:38,385 --> 00:57:40,353 that moment on that arete up top 907 00:57:40,387 --> 00:57:42,942 where you can look off one side, maybe, and-- 908 00:57:43,805 --> 00:57:46,532 Thanks for the reminder. See a long ways down. 909 00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:48,326 That'll do a lot for the good night's sleep. 910 00:57:48,361 --> 00:57:49,155 Yeah, yeah. 911 00:57:49,189 --> 00:57:50,881 What else do you have to share? 912 00:58:00,477 --> 00:58:02,824 Sometimes I wonder what you've gotten us into. 913 00:58:04,204 --> 00:58:05,516 "Hey, Bobby, let's climb Mount Kennedy." 914 00:58:05,551 --> 00:58:08,485 Sometimes I wonder why I brought Bobby on this trip. 915 00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:09,762 "Hey, Bobby, I had a great idea, 916 00:58:09,796 --> 00:58:12,040 "let's climb Mount Kennedy," fuck. 917 00:58:12,074 --> 00:58:13,282 "It's like Mount Baker." 918 00:58:14,767 --> 00:58:17,114 If you can vote one person off the team, who would it be? 919 00:58:18,115 --> 00:58:21,739 Myself, no, it's, this trip is amazing. 920 00:58:24,431 --> 00:58:26,779 It's swimming in mystique, 921 00:58:26,813 --> 00:58:29,333 and we're drowning in personalities. 922 00:58:46,902 --> 00:58:51,942 It's about 6:54 a.m., we're just getting ready 923 00:58:52,356 --> 00:58:54,531 to set off for our summit bid. 924 00:58:55,808 --> 00:58:57,810 Yeah, I've been thinking about this for many years, 925 00:58:57,844 --> 00:59:02,331 and it's really special. 926 00:59:04,713 --> 00:59:08,406 The plan is to eat some bad oatmeal 927 00:59:08,441 --> 00:59:11,478 and get geared up, roped up, 928 00:59:11,513 --> 00:59:15,586 and make a summit bid, pretty exciting. 929 00:59:15,621 --> 00:59:19,452 Let's do it. 930 00:59:58,008 --> 00:59:59,561 50 years ago, Jim Whittaker came here, 931 00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:02,771 and he brought my father, to honor the Kennedy family, 932 01:00:02,806 --> 01:00:06,741 and because of all the things he's done for us, 933 01:00:06,775 --> 01:00:10,365 I'm here this year to honor Jim Whittaker. 934 01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:17,234 You're in this place where they were. 935 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,479 All the history, just kept, just playing over 936 01:00:21,514 --> 01:00:22,791 and over in my head, every step, 937 01:00:22,826 --> 01:00:25,656 as we walk uphill, 100 feet out of camp, 938 01:00:25,691 --> 01:00:28,417 1,000 feet out of camp, two hours out of camp. 939 01:00:28,452 --> 01:00:30,143 I was glad we had rope lengths between us 940 01:00:30,178 --> 01:00:32,767 'cause I was crying and I didn't want people to know. 941 01:00:40,775 --> 01:00:44,744 An altimeter in there, kind of, sometimes. 942 01:00:46,401 --> 01:00:48,886 That was an easy 800 feet. 943 01:00:48,921 --> 01:00:53,891 I think the, Whittakers take big steps. 944 01:00:55,721 --> 01:00:57,412 All right, Brian, we're all good. 945 01:01:05,282 --> 01:01:08,078 There was a moment, kind of a realization 946 01:01:08,112 --> 01:01:10,908 where it dawned on me that we had talked Chris Kennedy 947 01:01:10,943 --> 01:01:14,222 into coming with us, I was concerned for his safety, 948 01:01:14,256 --> 01:01:16,811 more than anything, I didn't want Chris to get hurt. 949 01:01:22,471 --> 01:01:24,715 At one point, Chris was ahead of me, 950 01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:26,165 and I wasn't sure what he was saying. 951 01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:27,822 He kind of said something like, "I'm going in," 952 01:01:27,856 --> 01:01:31,170 or, "I'm going down," or sort of kind of tossed it off, 953 01:01:31,204 --> 01:01:33,620 and he said it again, and I looked up, and I could see 954 01:01:33,655 --> 01:01:36,002 what he meant was he was going into a crevasse. 955 01:01:38,522 --> 01:01:41,283 I just put the line taut so he wouldn't fall far, 956 01:01:41,318 --> 01:01:44,631 if he did go in, and I don't know if you've ever tried 957 01:01:44,666 --> 01:01:47,911 to roll with a backpack on, but Chris did an amazing job, 958 01:01:47,945 --> 01:01:49,015 but he rolled the wrong way, 959 01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:50,465 and it kind of opened up even more. 960 01:01:50,499 --> 01:01:52,501 So then I just said, "Screw it, I'm gonna pull him back 961 01:01:52,536 --> 01:01:55,125 "and out," and so I just started reversing downhill, 962 01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:57,058 and that kind of popped him out of the hazard zone, 963 01:01:57,092 --> 01:01:58,887 up onto the lip. 964 01:01:58,922 --> 01:02:02,753 The same scenario happened from the '65 climb, 965 01:02:02,788 --> 01:02:06,619 they dropped Bobby into a crevasse, like, waist deep. 966 01:02:06,653 --> 01:02:08,448 Every 50 years, we like to drop a Kennedy 967 01:02:08,483 --> 01:02:10,692 in a crevasse up on Mount Kennedy, just for fun. 968 01:02:12,418 --> 01:02:16,594 I fell, and I didn't die, that's about it. 969 01:02:26,121 --> 01:02:28,330 We were going slow, probably 970 01:02:28,365 --> 01:02:29,746 because of our inexperience. 971 01:02:30,919 --> 01:02:32,783 You haven't slept, you're an emotional wreck, 972 01:02:32,818 --> 01:02:35,130 Chris falls in a crevasse, we keep going. 973 01:02:35,165 --> 01:02:37,477 The wind picks up, it was really windy up high. 974 01:02:41,447 --> 01:02:42,931 45 mile an hour winds sweeping 975 01:02:42,966 --> 01:02:45,140 across that ridge line, and we were up 976 01:02:45,175 --> 01:02:49,179 at probably 12,500 feet at that point. 977 01:02:57,566 --> 01:02:59,327 It was about 6:00 p.m. when we got up 978 01:02:59,361 --> 01:03:02,813 to the summit plateau, people were a little intimidated 979 01:03:02,848 --> 01:03:03,814 when they saw that, 980 01:03:03,849 --> 01:03:06,921 and people were also already really tired. 981 01:03:08,474 --> 01:03:10,338 The decision was really obvious, 982 01:03:11,857 --> 01:03:15,999 we needed to turn around. 983 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:22,281 So let's talk a bit 984 01:03:22,315 --> 01:03:24,731 about how you heard about the assassination, 985 01:03:24,766 --> 01:03:26,216 the news surrounding that. 986 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:30,254 God, I don't know that I want to talk much about that, 987 01:03:31,255 --> 01:03:35,259 that was bad. 988 01:03:37,848 --> 01:03:39,988 The night of the California primary, 989 01:03:40,023 --> 01:03:41,300 a few of the Kennedy people met 990 01:03:41,334 --> 01:03:42,819 with a number of uncommitted delegates 991 01:03:42,853 --> 01:03:45,683 in the presidential suite of the Olympic Hotel. 992 01:03:46,892 --> 01:03:48,997 TV sets were on, there was gay exuberance 993 01:03:49,895 --> 01:03:51,828 as the primary results came in. 994 01:03:53,484 --> 01:03:55,003 A speaker was hooked up to the telephone 995 01:03:55,038 --> 01:03:57,143 to broadcast the voice of Senator Kennedy. 996 01:03:58,455 --> 01:04:01,976 At 11 o'clock p.m. Senator Kennedy spoke to our audience, 997 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,256 and asked us to help him seek his goal. 998 01:04:08,016 --> 01:04:10,467 I thanked him for the call and said, 999 01:04:10,501 --> 01:04:13,884 "Congratulations, Bob, keep up the good work, 1000 01:04:13,919 --> 01:04:16,853 "we love you." 1001 01:04:18,924 --> 01:04:21,374 My mother was with the campaign 1002 01:04:21,409 --> 01:04:24,757 and with Ethel at the Ambassador Hotel when Bobby was shot. 1003 01:04:26,586 --> 01:04:28,381 Jim was in Seattle when he heard 1004 01:04:28,416 --> 01:04:31,695 about the assassination, and he got on a plane 1005 01:04:31,729 --> 01:04:34,111 as fast as he could and got down there. 1006 01:04:35,526 --> 01:04:36,976 Got a cab to the hospital, 1007 01:04:37,011 --> 01:04:39,254 they were barricading the doors. 1008 01:04:39,289 --> 01:04:42,740 And I told them who I was, and then they let me in, 1009 01:04:42,775 --> 01:04:44,604 and I went up to Bobby's room. 1010 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,953 Jim had Ethel put on a gurney 1011 01:04:48,919 --> 01:04:52,198 and put beside Bobby so she could hold his hand. 1012 01:04:53,820 --> 01:04:56,893 He was on a breathing machine, still alive, 1013 01:04:58,032 --> 01:05:01,863 but he wasn't gonna make it, you could tell. 1014 01:05:02,864 --> 01:05:06,350 He was brain dead. 1015 01:05:06,385 --> 01:05:08,559 And Teddy pulled the plug on the machine, 1016 01:05:09,388 --> 01:05:12,391 and we held Bobby, held hands and held Bobby, 1017 01:05:13,323 --> 01:05:14,669 and that was it. 1018 01:05:16,429 --> 01:05:20,917 I knelt by his bed, held his hand and Ethel's hand, 1019 01:05:20,951 --> 01:05:22,780 and cried for what she had lost, 1020 01:05:23,747 --> 01:05:25,749 for what those who knew him had lost, 1021 01:05:27,406 --> 01:05:30,478 and for what those that had never known him had lost. 1022 01:05:31,824 --> 01:05:33,930 I cried for the ones that might never say, 1023 01:05:35,034 --> 01:05:37,899 "I am a better man because I knew him." 1024 01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:42,904 ♪ Mine eyes have seen the glory ♪ 1025 01:05:43,077 --> 01:05:46,770 ♪ Of the coming of the Lord 1026 01:05:47,598 --> 01:05:49,911 We flew back on Air Force One. 1027 01:05:49,946 --> 01:05:53,984 Johnson gave us the plane to fly Bobby back. 1028 01:05:54,019 --> 01:05:58,540 ♪ Where the grapes of wrath are stored ♪ 1029 01:05:59,438 --> 01:06:01,095 First, we lose the president, 1030 01:06:01,129 --> 01:06:03,683 and then we lose Robert Kennedy, 1031 01:06:03,718 --> 01:06:06,065 who was talking about civil rights, 1032 01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:09,620 he says there's a growing gap in wealth accumulation, 1033 01:06:09,655 --> 01:06:11,139 he's concerned about the environment, 1034 01:06:11,174 --> 01:06:13,900 and I guess Jim Whittaker probably sensitized him even more 1035 01:06:13,935 --> 01:06:17,283 than he was. Many of the same issues that are with us today. 1036 01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:20,735 At the church, Andy sang 1037 01:06:20,769 --> 01:06:24,359 without accompaniment The Battle Hymn of the Republic. 1038 01:06:24,394 --> 01:06:26,085 ♪ Hallelujah 1039 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,191 ♪ Glory, glory 1040 01:06:28,225 --> 01:06:29,364 When we came out of the church, 1041 01:06:29,399 --> 01:06:31,332 there were thousands of people all singing 1042 01:06:31,366 --> 01:06:36,268 that song, as we came out with Bobby, anyway, 1043 01:06:36,302 --> 01:06:39,857 it was, that was tough, we lost a hell of a good guy. 1044 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,344 ♪ Marching on 1045 01:06:43,378 --> 01:06:45,760 I saw my father drop down on his knees 1046 01:06:45,794 --> 01:06:49,936 at Bobby's grave and start to cry, and I had never seen that 1047 01:06:49,971 --> 01:06:52,042 before, and I've never seen it since. 1048 01:06:53,078 --> 01:06:55,390 And so it's, here's your father, 1049 01:06:55,425 --> 01:06:57,392 who's also sort of a superhero, 1050 01:06:58,945 --> 01:07:02,225 brought to tears, it was intense. 1051 01:07:02,259 --> 01:07:07,195 ♪ Our God is marching on 1052 01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:12,545 ♪ Glory, glory 1053 01:07:12,580 --> 01:07:16,170 ♪ Hallelujah 1054 01:07:16,204 --> 01:07:18,655 ♪ Glory, glory 1055 01:07:18,689 --> 01:07:22,141 ♪ Hallelujah 1056 01:07:22,176 --> 01:07:24,730 ♪ Glory, glory 1057 01:07:24,764 --> 01:07:27,767 ♪ Hallelujah 1058 01:07:27,802 --> 01:07:31,323 ♪ His truth is marching on 1059 01:07:33,014 --> 01:07:35,741 You know, anybody who loses a parent, 1060 01:07:35,775 --> 01:07:38,916 a mother or a father, suffers greatly. 1061 01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:43,162 I'd say the bullet that kills the father wounds the child, 1062 01:07:43,197 --> 01:07:46,269 and unless you have someone like Jim Whittaker, 1063 01:07:46,303 --> 01:07:50,376 who can step in, who can provide those parental experiences, 1064 01:07:50,411 --> 01:07:53,586 who can encourage you, guide you, give you confidence, 1065 01:07:53,621 --> 01:07:56,210 tell you, "No, you can do this, you can accomplish that. 1066 01:07:56,244 --> 01:07:59,799 "The river's not too fast, that water's not too deep, 1067 01:07:59,834 --> 01:08:02,837 "the ocean's not too rough, the mountain's not too tall, 1068 01:08:02,871 --> 01:08:06,047 "you can do this," then you suffer. 1069 01:08:06,082 --> 01:08:08,118 And Jim Whittaker came into our lives, 1070 01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:10,672 and he gave us all great confidence. 1071 01:08:10,707 --> 01:08:13,675 ♪ Glory, glory hallelujah 1072 01:08:13,710 --> 01:08:17,196 One piece of lead stopped a brilliant, 1073 01:08:17,231 --> 01:08:21,442 wonderful opportunity for the country and the world, 1074 01:08:21,476 --> 01:08:22,615 it just stopped it. 1075 01:08:26,205 --> 01:08:27,275 We lost a good man. 1076 01:08:27,310 --> 01:08:29,208 ♪ Amen 1077 01:08:48,848 --> 01:08:51,644 Bobby and Dad left the tie clips up here in '65. 1078 01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:56,097 And I don't know, I found one in the house sometime, a while ago. 1079 01:09:00,998 --> 01:09:04,968 We've done what we could to honor our parents, 1080 01:09:06,211 --> 01:09:09,421 honor your father, my father, Jack. 1081 01:09:12,907 --> 01:09:15,496 pay tribute to the living, as well. 1082 01:09:15,530 --> 01:09:17,083 Get ourselves back safe-- 1083 01:09:17,118 --> 01:09:19,051 I've got this. 1084 01:09:42,764 --> 01:09:44,076 Let's go get down safe. 1085 01:09:44,110 --> 01:09:46,941 Let's get out of here. Let's get down safe. 1086 01:10:02,991 --> 01:10:04,924 As he moved to seek the newer world, 1087 01:10:04,959 --> 01:10:06,443 he said, "Each time a man stands up 1088 01:10:06,478 --> 01:10:09,860 "for an ideal or goes to improve the lot of others, 1089 01:10:09,895 --> 01:10:12,311 "or strikes out against injustice, 1090 01:10:12,346 --> 01:10:15,935 "he sends forth a tiny ripple, the ripple of hope." 1091 01:10:16,764 --> 01:10:20,768 ♪ I want to see a revival, yeah ♪ 1092 01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:27,775 What we need in the United States is not division, 1093 01:10:29,501 --> 01:10:32,711 what we need in the United States is not hatred. 1094 01:10:32,745 --> 01:10:35,369 What we need in the United States is not violence 1095 01:10:35,403 --> 01:10:40,236 and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom 1096 01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:44,516 and compassion toward one another, the feeling of justice 1097 01:10:45,482 --> 01:10:48,830 toward those who still suffer within our country. 1098 01:10:48,865 --> 01:10:52,765 ♪ Means my soul's survival, oh 1099 01:10:58,806 --> 01:10:59,876 For me, this climb was 1100 01:10:59,910 --> 01:11:02,258 about exploring all these different emotions, 1101 01:11:02,292 --> 01:11:04,915 and connecting with my brother, building a team, 1102 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:07,435 and being part of an adventure, drilling down 1103 01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:10,058 into this beautiful history that shaped my family 1104 01:11:10,093 --> 01:11:13,130 and me and the Kennedys. 1105 01:11:14,925 --> 01:11:19,930 ♪ And why am I so blind 1106 01:11:20,966 --> 01:11:24,245 ♪ With my eyes wide open 1107 01:11:26,765 --> 01:11:29,008 I'm proud of my friend, I've been proud 1108 01:11:29,043 --> 01:11:33,979 to be his friend, to see him take on a big challenge 1109 01:11:34,876 --> 01:11:37,672 at a certain time of his life is impressive. 1110 01:11:44,265 --> 01:11:46,957 In the rapids of the Salmon River, 1111 01:11:46,992 --> 01:11:49,132 and drifting down the Colorado, 1112 01:11:49,166 --> 01:11:51,583 skiing at Sun Valley and paddling down the Hudson, 1113 01:11:52,446 --> 01:11:57,174 my wife and children watched the magic of Bob Kennedy, 1114 01:11:57,209 --> 01:11:58,417 and we grew to love him. 1115 01:11:59,384 --> 01:12:00,833 He gave inspiration and hope to those 1116 01:12:00,868 --> 01:12:04,975 of us who knew him, and even to those who did not. 1117 01:12:05,010 --> 01:12:06,149 We love you, Bobby. 1118 01:12:07,461 --> 01:12:09,635 We try to plunge ourselves 1119 01:12:09,670 --> 01:12:13,432 into these situations, into these depth 1120 01:12:13,467 --> 01:12:18,437 of challenge and loneliness and overwhelming emotions 1121 01:12:18,748 --> 01:12:23,373 of fear and danger in order to conquer them 1122 01:12:23,408 --> 01:12:27,998 in a relatively safe space, knowing that life, 1123 01:12:28,033 --> 01:12:30,587 without our permission, is gonna plunge us 1124 01:12:30,622 --> 01:12:33,245 into those same situations time and again. 1125 01:12:34,488 --> 01:12:37,353 And at least now we'll know how to get ourselves out. 1126 01:12:46,327 --> 01:12:48,191 Good job Bobby. 1127 01:12:50,745 --> 01:12:52,437 We didn't leave anything up there, did we? 1128 01:12:54,715 --> 01:12:56,372 Right on, Chris. 1129 01:12:56,406 --> 01:13:01,377 Thanks, Leif, thanks for everything. 1130 01:13:06,105 --> 01:13:07,866 Yeah, you come off of that thing, 1131 01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:12,871 and you can't but help having even more admiration 1132 01:13:13,112 --> 01:13:14,251 for your father and for mine. 1133 01:13:14,286 --> 01:13:15,425 That's what I was just thinking. 1134 01:13:15,460 --> 01:13:17,738 Incredible, that's incredible. 1135 01:13:17,772 --> 01:13:18,670 I mean-- 1136 01:13:18,704 --> 01:13:19,878 I didn't think it'd be possible 1137 01:13:19,912 --> 01:13:24,503 to have more admiration for-- 1138 01:13:40,174 --> 01:13:42,452 50 years ago, about this time, 1139 01:13:42,487 --> 01:13:44,316 there was a very impressive effort, 1140 01:13:45,179 --> 01:13:47,112 the mapping of Mount Kennedy. 1141 01:13:47,146 --> 01:13:49,148 And we have Malcolm Taylor here. 1142 01:13:50,115 --> 01:13:51,219 And I think it's safe to say 1143 01:13:51,254 --> 01:13:55,154 that maybe the Kluane National Park in Canada, 1144 01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:58,399 the initiative at least for that, or the groundswell 1145 01:13:58,434 --> 01:14:01,057 for creating that I think may have come from this project. 1146 01:14:01,091 --> 01:14:03,231 So a lot of good came from it, 1147 01:14:03,266 --> 01:14:07,512 and 50 years later, here we are back at it. 1148 01:14:07,546 --> 01:14:10,549 I've got a new book full of notes I'm taking, 1149 01:14:10,584 --> 01:14:12,448 we're still learning from the experience, 1150 01:14:12,482 --> 01:14:14,380 50 years later, so that's it. 1151 01:14:21,318 --> 01:14:24,598 And here's the result of all our effort up there 1152 01:14:24,632 --> 01:14:29,603 on Mount Kennedy. 1153 01:14:29,982 --> 01:14:33,399 I guess the wild places have a way of bringing us back 1154 01:14:33,434 --> 01:14:36,299 to who we are, 1155 01:14:36,333 --> 01:14:39,060 whether you're right here in Holderness, New Hampshire, 1156 01:14:40,303 --> 01:14:42,719 or whether you're in the Yukon Territory, 1157 01:14:42,754 --> 01:14:44,790 or the far reaches of Alaska, 1158 01:14:44,825 --> 01:14:47,068 it's a way of sort of bringing us home. 1159 01:14:48,553 --> 01:14:52,108 We are rooted in it, we are rooted in nature. 1160 01:15:09,194 --> 01:15:11,541 Hang on, I'm going for it. 1161 01:15:23,449 --> 01:15:24,899 You are on the fastest route. 1162 01:15:24,934 --> 01:15:27,108 You will arrive at 12:03 p.m. 1163 01:15:27,143 --> 01:15:29,386 Nailed it. 1164 01:15:29,421 --> 01:15:33,149 I hear that these documentaries can be traps 1165 01:15:33,183 --> 01:15:36,393 for a midlife crisis, if this is that, 1166 01:15:36,428 --> 01:15:39,535 I'd like it to be a special midlife crisis. 1167 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,885 This was I think on our summit day, climbing up. 1168 01:15:46,749 --> 01:15:47,922 Here I am crying. 1169 01:15:49,717 --> 01:15:51,995 Did anybody drop in a crevasse, or I don't think-- 1170 01:15:52,030 --> 01:15:53,134 We dropped Chris in a crevasse. 1171 01:15:53,169 --> 01:15:54,377 Did you? 1172 01:15:54,411 --> 01:15:55,585 Good. 1173 01:15:55,620 --> 01:15:57,622 I think for me the biggest takeaway is connecting 1174 01:15:57,656 --> 01:15:59,278 with you, Bobby, and-- Yeah, totally. 1175 01:15:59,313 --> 01:16:00,728 Reconnecting, and-- True. 1176 01:16:00,763 --> 01:16:02,454 Sharing that experience together, 1177 01:16:02,488 --> 01:16:05,146 and planning it and climbing together, 1178 01:16:05,181 --> 01:16:06,941 I mean, it was just fun, being in the tent, 1179 01:16:06,976 --> 01:16:09,116 joking around, yeah, it was-- 1180 01:16:09,150 --> 01:16:10,566 Part of that was fun. 1181 01:16:12,913 --> 01:16:16,917 I mean, all the stuff we've done on our own, 1182 01:16:17,227 --> 01:16:22,232 but the best is having a nucleus of a close friendship. 1183 01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:27,410 With Bob sinking, Bob sinking knives 1184 01:16:27,444 --> 01:16:31,172 into the wall, throwing baseballs into the wall. 1185 01:16:46,325 --> 01:16:47,637 Are you proud of your sons 1186 01:16:47,672 --> 01:16:48,707 for what they've done? 1187 01:16:49,777 --> 01:16:51,296 I couldn't be more proud, 1188 01:16:51,330 --> 01:16:52,987 even if they didn't climb mountains, 1189 01:16:53,022 --> 01:16:55,887 they're wonderful human beings, and yeah, 1190 01:16:55,921 --> 01:16:57,751 and I couldn't be more proud of them, 1191 01:16:57,785 --> 01:17:01,271 that they're a credit to the human race, no question. 1192 01:17:16,321 --> 01:17:18,634 Please join me in welcoming the next governor 1193 01:17:18,668 --> 01:17:20,636 of the state of Illinois, Christopher Kennedy. 1194 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,272 How old are you, 70, what is it, 72? 1195 01:18:11,307 --> 01:18:13,240 No, it's 84. 1196 01:18:13,274 --> 01:18:15,207 Oh! We're gonna miss ya. 94061

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