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I'd been trying to get my dirty,
little fingers into Marvel for years,
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so I go in, I meet with Brad Winderbaumfor the Black Widow movie.
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I loved She-Hulk so much even then,that I put her into my Black Widow pitch.
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At one point, he even said like,
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"Kinda feels like you're pitching
a She-Hulk story with Black Widow in it,"
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and I said, "Guilty."
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So, when I didn't get that job,
my parting shot to them was,
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"If you ever do do She-Hulk,
you better call me, because if you don't,
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"I'll burn this building to the ground."
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Kevin makes the announcementthat they're gonna do She-Hulk
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as a series and I'm furious,
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because I look at my phone, I'm like,
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"I don't have any missed calls
from Marvel Studios.
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"I told them what would happen."
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And my fiancé was, of course, like,
"Chill out, dude."
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And then literally the next day,
I got a call,
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you know, from Marvel to see
if I wanted to pitch on She-Hulk
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and of course I was like,
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"I think I heard something
about an announcement?"
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I was actually a huge fan
of She-Hulk as a kid.
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She was, kind of, in my mind,
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the only really badass female superhero
who had her own comic books.
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In her actual pitch
to get hired,
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Kat had a picture of her
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as a "scrawny teenager,"
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you know, reading the She-Hulk comic.
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She used to go every week and get it,
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and it was this exciting,
formative thing.
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It was right as everything
was going down with the pandemic,
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I had my first meeting, and it was,
kind of, you know, horrible for the world,
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but great timing,
because my husband, Rhys,
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actually owned all the old comics,
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and we went to his mom's basement
and pulled them up,
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and I got to, kind of, go back through
all these comics that I'd loved,
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and really remember
what was so exciting about She-Hulk.
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And what was so exciting about her
is that she broke the fourth wall,
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and she was so irreverent,
and she was so big, and strong, and bold,
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and so many of the things that
she did are, kind of, groundbreaking.
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What I love about Jen's
story is, she's this young woman
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who spent so much time working,
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and hasn't really had the chance
to grow her life romantically,
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to spend time with her friends,
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to just, like, live a fun life
as a young adult woman, and then,
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this huge thing happens to her
and it's like,
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how do you, sort of,
navigate just your everyday life,
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trying to be good at your job,
trying to be a good friend,
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trying to figure out, sort of,
what you want as a person,
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and then as a Hulk.
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What are you talking about?
I'm not gonna be a superhero.
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What else ya gonna do as a Hulk?
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Return to my career.
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What I love most about Jen,
Jen/She-Hulk
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is just her contradiction.
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She's just so completely fixated on work,
and yet she also has this huge heart,
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and just wants to fall in love,
and all of that.
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And also that she, in one sense,
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loves being She-Hulk
and at the same time resents it.
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She's kind of
directly in that contradiction.
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We just started a superhuman law division,
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and I want you, well, the She-Hulk,
to be the face of it.
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Oh.
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There was conversation
even in the methodology
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about how we shoot this.
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At one point, we talked about,
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are we gonna go old school
and do it like Bill Bixby,
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and, and Lou Ferrigno, and find
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you know, a great actor
who's of a certain height,
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and then have a bodybuilder
playing She-Hulk.
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There were so many
different discussions,
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we went down so many different paths,
and at the end of the day,
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it really landed with, "We need to find
the best actor for this job
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"who's gonna bring the most to the role,"
because ultimately,
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she's going to be a six-foot-seven,
green computer-generated image,
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and we all need to feel like
this is a real human being,
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and buy what she's selling.
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These dodos never had to deal
with this on the first day of the job.
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I hope they die in a fire.
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Not really, they can die of old age,
but like, tomorrow.
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I always thought of this
as a comedic role,
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and so I always thought like
we need a very comedic actress.
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You know, has to be a very,
very comedic person,
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who has a ton of comedy experience,
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but when we cast Tatiana, it was like,
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she made me change the way
I think about this character.
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Like, she turned Jennifer Walters
and She-Hulk into a real person.
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I'm a Hulk.
Why don't I just smash our way in?
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Because they have weapons, Jennifer.
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Yeah, well, good thing
She-Hulk is indestructible, Matthew.
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Not only am I, like, stepping into, like,
being a superhero for the first time,
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but I'm also, like getting to do
a flat-out comedy,
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which is just so exciting.
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And like with, you know,
writing like Jessica's,
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it's just so easy, and all of our
day players are like amazing,
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all of the guest stars, like,
it's just an incredible group of people,
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so it just feels really,
for the first time, like, total play, um,
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which I've experienced in little doses,
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but this feels like
totally a different world.
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Who are the two least likely people
to play Hulk?
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She's actually hysterical.
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- Well, I disagree, but I'm having fun.
- You're really funny.
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- You can do comedy really well.
- This guy's the fun one.
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I... I have never had the chance.
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I know, isn't it...
Don't you feel like, as a serious actor,
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you get stuck doing serious things,
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- when all you really wanna do is comedy?- Yeah.
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- What?
- Don't make me angry.
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You wouldn't like as me...
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For She-Hulk
we were really keen
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on it being Tatiana's performance.
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Our whole goal was to
not key frame her face.
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She's amazing.
You want all that performance.
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And, so, she was wearing
of course the full mo-cap suit
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which gets her physical,
her body performance,
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and then she had what we call an HMC
or a head mounted camera on.
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And it's recording all those little dots
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and then those dots are then piped into
a system that can then read that in
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and translate that into facial motion.
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Scrunch your face left.
Scrunch your face right.
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Blink. Blink right. Blink left. Good.
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So the gold standard
for motion capture
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is what we call optical capture,
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that's what you would probably recognize
as having the little like,
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what looks like ping-pong balls,
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what we call retro reflective markers
all over at certain points on the body.
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It also requires about 50 cameras
set up in a volume,
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and those all have to be perfectly set up
and then calibrated,
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obviously there's a big up time
with hanging all those cameras,
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and then any scenes
where there's a lot of crowds,
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she's sitting at her desk,
suddenly her legs are blocked,
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we can't see her pelvis anymore.
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That's when we would use an inertial suit.
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Inertial suits, they rely on little
sensors that are built into the suit,
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that also is just on a signal.
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So there's a little station that we set up
and it talks to all of the sensors.
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The only tricky thing with that,
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it's not as precise
as the optical capture.
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So the inertial
tended to go with us on location,
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for quick setup and tear down,
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optical any time we were in a big set,
we were gonna be there for a few days.
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We did everything. We did mo-cap,
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we did facial capture,
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we did Tatiana doing all the takes
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as well as doing a stunt double
doing the takes as well as
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animation trying to track
the motion capture.
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Tatiana has her frame,
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and it's quite different
to what She-Hulk is,
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so Tatiana doing this is one thing.
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When you have She-Hulk, it feels this!
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And people don't talk this way!
But that's how it translates
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when you are the height that she is
and the size that she is.
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So we had to do a lot of,
maybe, taming
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the straight translation from what
Tatiana did to She-Hulk,
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so that it would feel within character,
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and it didn't become a caricature.
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Someone like She-Hulk
is very time intensive.
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She also has additional complications
in that she's got long-flowing hair,
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so she's automatically more difficult
than other characters.
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She also has 25 costumes,
which is unheard of.
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We only started from a core
from the wardrobe department
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and then we would kinda
take it from there.
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For the show, we also had an actress,
Malia, who was 6'7,
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and so she would wear
a practical version of the costume
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and that was really valuable reference
for us in visual effects.
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That was one of the funnest things
about this character,
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was getting to do both versions
of these costumes,
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what they look like on Tatiana, as Jen,
and then as She-Hulk.
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We actually had a body form made,
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based off of what She-Hulk's
measurements would have been,
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and we had that as a reference
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when we were making those costumes,
so that we could see,
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like the aftermath of the suit
after she has her transformation.
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We studied a lot of different
transformations on camera.
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There's so many different ways to do it.
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And the truth is,
with Jennifer turning into She-Hulk,
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it's meant to be this very seamless,
natural, easy thing.
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Yeah. All the way down, small, impish.
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One of the things that we really
responded to in visual effects
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was pulling up this reference material.
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There was a time lapse video
of a strawberry ripening,
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and that was kind of,
the biggest inspiration.
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- See?
- No, I'm doing this.
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Okay, this is completely new territory.
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We are in studio.
We're doing the scenes where,
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Jen has been cousin-napped by Bruce,
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and taken back to his beach lab,
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and she is undergoing,
like, Hulk training.
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Oh, my God, Bruce, what the hell?
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It kind of feels like if
I don't transform, I'm gonna die!
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Learning to be a Hulk,
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how to eat like a Hulk,
how to dress as a Hulk,
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how to control her transformations,
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but what's so cool about it is that
she's pretty great at controlling them.
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Far better than Bruce is.
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The triggers are anger and fear.
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Oh.
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Those are, like, the baseline
of any woman just existing.
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A lot comes more easily to her
than it did for him.
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It's a little frustrating,
I'm not gonna lie.
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Guess we could just...
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skip all that then.
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You know, he wants to be her mentor.
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I mean, there is no other person
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in the universe who's sort of,
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gone through what he's gone through,
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and so I think he's so excited
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to have this other person
to lay all this on, and...
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But she's so far ahead of him.
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- Fine. Teach me how to Hulk.
- Yes! I mean, okay.
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Mark's amazing.
He's so, playful, and, like, open,
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'cause I imagine it must be a weird thing
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to be taking this character
that you've known for years,
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that you've explored in certain contexts,
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but then to take him out of that context,
and put him in, like,
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this very different tone
in this very different world.
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It's just really fun to see him, like,
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explore that character
in a totally different way.
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I've been doing this
for almost 10 years now,
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and I think we've done a really good job
of switching it up,
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and taking the characters, both Banner
and Hulk to a lot of different places.
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So, it's definitely
kept it interesting for me,
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and this is a whole other, like...
Really playing long scenes,
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and playing with another person,
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who is in motion capture,
I haven't really gotten to do.
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There's that one time that I was stuck as
the other guy for over two years.
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- That was on another planet.
- No, I can't be this for two years.
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No, I was in space! I said one time!
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Whoa. You have so much to learn
about living as a Hulk.
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I think Jessica and all the writers
just nailed it,
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in terms of it's so specific.
It's such a, like, sibling relationship.
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- Smug-Hulk.
- Smart-Hulk.
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Well, it's pretty smug
to call yourself smart.
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Yeah, I didn't come up with it.
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There's very little listening happening
and a lot of explaining.
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And a lot of telling the other what's up.
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- Come on, Bruce! Let me out.
- Put the helmet back on!
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It feels really innate,
and it was, kind of,
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a natural place for Mark and I to go,
for some reason.
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- Are you wearing fake eyelashes?
- No, what are we talking about?
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This is totally natural.
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- It's been amazingly fun.
- It's been so much fun. It's...
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- It's been a great time.
- The dumbest time.
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- It's dumb fun.
- It's dumb, yeah.
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Which is the best kind of fun.
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No, the hard time during the good time.
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- There's a good time during a hard time.
- There's a good time during hard time.
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- Darn it, I had it right the first time.
- Okay.
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The art department
designed these fabulous sets.
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It put us on the beach,
and we created the exterior
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on a back lot pad
against blue screen here.
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Built the tiki bar, and part of his
beach house garage,
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and ultimately have this showdown,
this fight between Hulk and She-Hulk.
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- Lunkhead!
- Dummy!
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We got to do all our own stunts.
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I mean, we got to do
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- our big stunt fight scene together.
- Yeah.
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We did these drills where they were,
like, competing throwing boulders,
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and she's winning,
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and it was one of my
favorite moments of the whole shoot
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where they just, kind of,
went crazy and let loose.
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My bar!
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What else?
We did ground-pounding.
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- We did Hulk-leaping, we did some pushes.
- You shoved me.
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- We did coconut...
- We did coconut time.
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Oh, yeah, and I nailed you
in the face every time.
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Ten guys all missed me and the only one
that was our dead ringer was her,
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every single time.
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Action!
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Jen, people wanna know
everything about you.
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You're a public figure now.
And I'm famous adjacent. Yes!
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One of the first people
I thought of for this
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after Tatiana was cast was Ginger.
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And they're about the same age,
and that was important to me,
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that they be peers, and be real friends.
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They're not just work friends,
they are people who relate on every level.
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Thinking you're gonna be an Avenger.
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Gettin' Captain America. Making sure
he's done the deed before
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- so he knows how to help you.
- Bye. Bye.
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This was the one role, actually,
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that we did setup chemistry tests for,
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because their relationship, you know,
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is like one of the core dramatic things
that the show is riding on.
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If you don't believe their friendship,
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then nothing else is really gonna work.
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- We did a scene where...
- Yes!
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- This is the gala scene.
- Yeah.
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And me and Ginger walked in...
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To cool music,
like, we chose the song.
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- We did a whole thing.
- We were serving it.
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Then Kat, in the notes she gave
after the take, was like,
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"Could you guys just do it, like, cool?
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- "You know, make it look cool?"
- Yeah, and we died, because
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we had been serving our best cool,
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and we thought we had been freakin' cool,
294
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so I literally
didn't know what I could give.
295
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Ginger's brain works faster
than anybody's brain on the planet,
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especially mine.
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She's just, like,
the sharpest person I've ever met.
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She can improvise so, like,
seamlessly, effortlessly.
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She's just, like, always in flow.
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If things go bad, we're gonna have
five people for Mahjong!
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- Yes!
- What's that?
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It's a tile game, we'll have to go
and get the Chinese tiles...
303
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That sounds like more my style.
304
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I would rather that
than five guys at the same time.
305
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Then add it to your profile, girl.
306
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I'm lucky that they support me
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and I get a lot of freedom to play around
and use my brain.
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Improvising's my favorite thing to do.
309
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So, I'm like so grateful
that they let me "go rogue."
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That's the guy who says,
"You don't need to wear any make up".
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That guy was born
wearing that pinkie ring.
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That guy was wearing sunglasses inside.
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Teal ones that matched
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- the color of his shirt.
- Yeah.
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- I need a favor.
- Okay.
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Will you stand in line with me
waiting for a sneaker drop?
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00:16:09,170 --> 00:16:10,963
The Iron Man Threes are comin' out,
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and they're limited
to one pair per customer.
319
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Why do you need two pairs?
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One to rock and one to stock.
321
00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:19,346
I love the Pug-Nikki dynamic.
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Pug is just so sincere, just as Josh is
in life, and, like, really amped.
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And he is just there to be a ride or die
for his two gal pals.
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That was everything
that I wanted it to be.
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It's a crazy feeling knowing
that you're working at Marvel,
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and you're working, and you're getting to
bring characters to life
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that are in comic canon.
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Bringing Pug to the screen, and just,
kind of, gettin' to see what this world
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looks like in this MCU law world,
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I'm pretty stoked to be a part of it, bro.
331
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I think I chose the right law firm.
I'm a lucky cat that they chose me back.
332
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I made you guys a welcome basket.
333
00:16:52,588 --> 00:16:53,964
Oh!
334
00:16:54,048 --> 00:16:56,091
It's got some office supplies
to get you started,
335
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snacks, and a map to
the best bathroom for pooping.
336
00:17:00,930 --> 00:17:02,139
Thank you.
337
00:17:02,264 --> 00:17:06,727
I think it's important to, sort of,
capture the workplace dynamics.
338
00:17:06,811 --> 00:17:09,646
So, you know we have this beautiful place
that she works in,
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and it can be intimidating.
340
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But like, at the heart of it,
what are sort of the same
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workplace dynamics that people
are used to, which is there's the boss
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who you're trying to impress
but you also, like,
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can't really read them.
And they know that.
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There's like the friends you work with,
and you're navigating
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the friendship relationship,
even though that person works for you.
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There's the co-worker that
you wanna be friends with
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00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:34,004
but is cool and you don't know
when you're in.
348
00:17:34,088 --> 00:17:35,130
There's a lot going on.
349
00:17:35,214 --> 00:17:38,925
How does she always look
so impeccable? Where does she shop?
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Somewhere with valet parking.
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00:17:41,053 --> 00:17:44,682
Mallory Book is the face
that never lost a case,
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which is a daunting thing to play.
353
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Most importantly,
she's really good at her job.
354
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I think of her as a superhero
in the court.
355
00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:56,443
Thank you, Your Honor.
356
00:17:57,153 --> 00:17:59,196
As you will see,
there are no issues of fact here
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that would require proceeding to trial.
358
00:18:01,532 --> 00:18:03,325
When I found out she was playing Mallory,
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00:18:03,409 --> 00:18:05,244
I was like, losing my mind,
I was so excited.
360
00:18:05,369 --> 00:18:08,205
And then when I got to
actually work with her,
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and see the nuance that
she brings to Mallory, you know,
362
00:18:11,709 --> 00:18:15,712
Mallory is written as this, sort of, like,
icy, untouchable person.
363
00:18:15,796 --> 00:18:21,343
But Renée just, like, so smartly ties in
these beautiful human moments.
364
00:18:21,844 --> 00:18:24,471
As you can see in the "About me" section,
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00:18:24,555 --> 00:18:26,431
my client wrote, and I quote,
366
00:18:26,515 --> 00:18:29,810
"Mean, green and straight poured
into these jeans."
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00:18:29,977 --> 00:18:30,978
Ew.
368
00:18:34,982 --> 00:18:37,693
I'm serious and I'm pissed.
369
00:18:37,818 --> 00:18:41,655
In the comics, you know,
Titania is another super-powered woman,
370
00:18:41,739 --> 00:18:43,573
but not as powerful as She-Hulk.
371
00:18:43,657 --> 00:18:47,119
And she's just laser-focused on
taking down She-Hulk out of,
372
00:18:47,203 --> 00:18:49,455
you know,
the implication is out of jealousy.
373
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We wanted to give her a little bit more
complexity but also modernize her.
374
00:18:53,584 --> 00:18:57,963
And if there was a female
super-powered villain today,
375
00:18:58,047 --> 00:18:59,715
for sure she would be on social media.
376
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,550
Could you take a photo of us?
377
00:19:01,634 --> 00:19:03,176
- Oh, my god, yes.
- No.
378
00:19:03,260 --> 00:19:05,596
Back up a little bit.
Just give me some space.
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00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:07,806
And the great thing about Jameela is
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she understands
that type of personality to a tee.
381
00:19:12,061 --> 00:19:16,106
Try telling that to the thousands of
testimonials from my fans
382
00:19:16,190 --> 00:19:18,150
who have had amazing results
383
00:19:18,234 --> 00:19:21,820
with my exclusive line
of She-Hulk foot exfoliants,
384
00:19:21,904 --> 00:19:23,780
which, by the way,
I have a free sample of,
385
00:19:23,864 --> 00:19:25,658
and offer into evidence. Thank you.
386
00:19:31,247 --> 00:19:34,207
I thought I was
going to be playing someone
387
00:19:34,291 --> 00:19:37,085
who poisons people,
because those were the sides that I read.
388
00:19:37,169 --> 00:19:38,795
They don't tell you
anything at Marvel.
389
00:19:38,879 --> 00:19:40,630
'Cause they're very,
very secretive.
390
00:19:40,714 --> 00:19:43,466
Uh, and so I didn't know
I would be doing any stunts,
391
00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:45,302
until I'd already signed the contract.
392
00:19:45,386 --> 00:19:48,346
And so I get to Atlanta thinking
I'm gonna have a very chill time.
393
00:19:48,430 --> 00:19:50,975
And they were like,
"Welcome to six months of stunts."
394
00:19:53,852 --> 00:19:59,399
I'm so strong now. This is, like, 45 tons,
that I'm actually lifting right now.
395
00:19:59,483 --> 00:20:02,527
And it's just, like, so easy...
Easy for me.
396
00:20:02,611 --> 00:20:04,487
I was really afraid.
397
00:20:04,571 --> 00:20:06,615
Because she had called me and she'd said,
398
00:20:06,699 --> 00:20:08,408
"I've never worked out a day in my life.
399
00:20:08,492 --> 00:20:11,661
"I've never done a fight
a day in my life." And I was just like,
400
00:20:11,745 --> 00:20:13,246
"Oh, no. What's gonna happen?"
401
00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:16,833
And then when she showed up,
she was so flexible. I was like,
402
00:20:16,917 --> 00:20:19,544
"Okay, we can work with that.
Let's have you do some kicks."
403
00:20:19,628 --> 00:20:22,047
She likes spinning. I was like,
"Your character spins.
404
00:20:22,131 --> 00:20:26,010
"You know you do a kick
and you spin into another fight."
405
00:20:26,176 --> 00:20:28,720
She's all about the hair and the makeup
and the clothes.
406
00:20:28,804 --> 00:20:30,555
But still. She came to win.
407
00:20:30,639 --> 00:20:33,475
You see that?
That was five months of training.
408
00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:35,936
So, you are welcome.
409
00:20:36,562 --> 00:20:40,941
The wedding episode came from
the beautiful mind of Jessica Gao.
410
00:20:41,025 --> 00:20:42,484
It was very much based on her life.
411
00:20:42,651 --> 00:20:44,694
Couples massage in ten minutes.
412
00:20:44,778 --> 00:20:47,948
Jen. I was gonna book you one,
and then I was like,
413
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,243
"Wait, Lulu, what are you thinking?
Jen isn't in a couple."
414
00:20:51,368 --> 00:20:52,869
You know, it's your classic.
415
00:20:52,953 --> 00:20:56,749
You gotta go back home to your
old childhood friend's wedding.
416
00:20:56,874 --> 00:20:59,376
And they're kind of a nightmare person.
417
00:20:59,460 --> 00:21:01,628
I don't want you to be a Hulk
at my wedding.
418
00:21:02,171 --> 00:21:03,546
Let me have my day, Jen.
419
00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:07,384
Lulu is played by Patti Harrison,
who's a star.
420
00:21:07,509 --> 00:21:10,262
Hi. Hi, Jen. Hi!
421
00:21:10,346 --> 00:21:14,058
Lulu is a high school
friend of Jen's.
422
00:21:14,183 --> 00:21:19,229
I definitely went to high school
with girls like that.
423
00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:22,483
And they exist.
And they have every right to exist.
424
00:21:23,067 --> 00:21:26,236
But, that doesn't mean that
425
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,114
they don't make existence harder
for everyone else around.
426
00:21:29,239 --> 00:21:31,616
How could you do this to me
on my wedding day?
427
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:32,826
Now everything's ruined!
428
00:21:32,910 --> 00:21:35,203
I always thought
if I would meet her in real life,
429
00:21:35,287 --> 00:21:37,581
I'd be like, too intimidated to talk.
And I was.
430
00:21:37,748 --> 00:21:41,668
But, I got all, like,
the fangirling out early
431
00:21:41,752 --> 00:21:45,297
and, just, like,
have loved working with her.
432
00:21:45,381 --> 00:21:49,175
Tatiana is a real-life monster.
433
00:21:49,259 --> 00:21:52,888
She's one of the most toxic people
I've ever worked with in my life.
434
00:21:53,222 --> 00:21:58,101
Um... I love her to death
and I would kill for her.
435
00:21:58,185 --> 00:21:59,937
And I would kill anyone she told me to.
436
00:22:00,062 --> 00:22:02,856
She-Hulk is at my wedding?
437
00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:06,193
I love you.
438
00:22:07,194 --> 00:22:10,489
- Show me your Matcher profile. Jennifer!
- No.
439
00:22:10,697 --> 00:22:12,073
I think we can all agree that
440
00:22:12,157 --> 00:22:15,744
the one thing that the MCU
has been missing is S-E-X.
441
00:22:15,828 --> 00:22:18,663
Why does no one have
a love life in the MCU?
442
00:22:18,747 --> 00:22:20,081
People have love lives.
443
00:22:20,165 --> 00:22:24,586
So, I was very excited to be able to
have that on our show
444
00:22:24,670 --> 00:22:27,172
because that is such a huge part
of everybody's lives.
445
00:22:27,256 --> 00:22:30,967
And here's the thing, like dating
in your 30s, already awful. The worst.
446
00:22:31,051 --> 00:22:33,219
But then you throw all of this stuff
on top of it,
447
00:22:33,303 --> 00:22:35,139
she's gonna have the worst time of it.
448
00:22:35,264 --> 00:22:37,682
That was a test
to make sure you're listening.
449
00:22:37,766 --> 00:22:40,060
I like doing little tests on first dates.
450
00:22:40,185 --> 00:22:42,687
Jen can be quite tightly wound,
451
00:22:42,771 --> 00:22:46,483
and sort of so fixated on work
as her only defining feature that,
452
00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:51,279
Nikki consistently reminds her that
there is a life outside of her job.
453
00:22:51,363 --> 00:22:56,618
And also to, like, embrace
the She-Hulkness of herself.
454
00:22:57,369 --> 00:22:58,661
I'm not proud of this.
455
00:22:58,745 --> 00:23:02,248
So she creates a profile and
she instantly gets all of these matches
456
00:23:02,332 --> 00:23:05,252
and sets up all of these dates
and she goes on a speed-dating round.
457
00:23:05,419 --> 00:23:07,921
Is there anything worse
than dating in your 30s?
458
00:23:08,046 --> 00:23:13,551
If you wanna make partner, the best
thing to do is bill a lot of hours.
459
00:23:13,635 --> 00:23:15,303
That's what my protagonist did.
460
00:23:15,387 --> 00:23:19,641
I have to admit,
I was a fan before we matched.
461
00:23:20,225 --> 00:23:25,146
Todd is a billionaire, playboy,
462
00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:27,273
philanthropist douche bag.
463
00:23:27,357 --> 00:23:31,111
I love Wakanda. You know,
I actually, studied abroad there.
464
00:23:31,236 --> 00:23:34,698
He meets She-Hulk on a date.
He's a total creep.
465
00:23:34,823 --> 00:23:38,493
God, you're just so powerful.
What a specimen.
466
00:23:38,577 --> 00:23:41,913
And then he just starts popping up
in all of these places.
467
00:23:41,997 --> 00:23:47,586
It's very obvious that he wants more
than anything to sleep with She-Hulk.
468
00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:53,383
But then it becomes a little bit
more apparent that there's a much
469
00:23:53,842 --> 00:23:56,803
seedier reason for that.
And that's to get her blood.
470
00:23:56,887 --> 00:23:58,596
Take She-Hulk's power!
471
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,100
Take She-Hulk's power!
Take She-Hulk's power!
472
00:24:02,184 --> 00:24:05,728
Jon Bass is just wonderful.
He's odious and horrible
473
00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:07,439
but you also kinda love him.
474
00:24:07,523 --> 00:24:11,235
Here's the thing, Jen.
I didn't just get handed my powers.
475
00:24:12,486 --> 00:24:14,238
I had to earn them.
476
00:24:15,113 --> 00:24:17,740
Yeah, it's the most fun
to play the villain.
477
00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:20,285
If you don't know that, know it now.
478
00:24:20,369 --> 00:24:23,455
I would like to introduce
our very special guest speaker.
479
00:24:23,539 --> 00:24:25,582
He cost a ton, so you'd better cheer.
480
00:24:25,666 --> 00:24:30,879
Give it up for the Abomination.
481
00:24:35,551 --> 00:24:37,970
Thank you! Thank you.
482
00:24:39,513 --> 00:24:41,764
They asked me
to come back and do this,
483
00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:43,392
I said, "That sounds like fun."
484
00:24:43,517 --> 00:24:47,688
And they came up with this notion
of the character which,
485
00:24:47,854 --> 00:24:52,109
it's a fine line between embarrassing
and pretentious, and villainous.
486
00:24:52,317 --> 00:24:54,110
When it says gang, it's not literal gang.
487
00:24:54,194 --> 00:24:56,738
Just make sure you make
that clear to the parole board.
488
00:24:56,822 --> 00:24:57,864
Yeah, no, I will.
489
00:24:58,073 --> 00:25:00,783
Tim is a character.
He is a total character.
490
00:25:00,867 --> 00:25:03,411
Excuse me, Jen, babe,
sweetheart, doll face.
491
00:25:03,495 --> 00:25:04,954
He was very playful.
492
00:25:05,038 --> 00:25:08,708
And so I think to come into this show
where now it's like a comedy,
493
00:25:08,792 --> 00:25:11,003
it was like a fun thing
to see him navigate.
494
00:25:11,128 --> 00:25:13,296
I'm actually appalling myself
with this tone.
495
00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:16,508
On the page, he was much more likeable
496
00:25:16,592 --> 00:25:18,176
and straightforward
497
00:25:18,510 --> 00:25:21,971
And Tim brought these layers where
you don't know if she should trust him,
498
00:25:22,055 --> 00:25:24,974
but at the same time,
he still deserves justice.
499
00:25:25,058 --> 00:25:28,019
And I think it makes her character
very sympathetic
500
00:25:28,103 --> 00:25:29,521
because she is like,
501
00:25:29,605 --> 00:25:32,440
"I don't really wanna do this.
This guy tried to kill my cousin.
502
00:25:32,524 --> 00:25:34,400
"But what happened to him was wrong."
503
00:25:34,484 --> 00:25:36,903
And to me, that really hearkened back
to the comics,
504
00:25:36,987 --> 00:25:41,241
to, like, the Jen Walters who will fight
for what is right, no matter what.
505
00:25:41,325 --> 00:25:44,995
Yes, Emil Blonsky is a polarizing figure.
506
00:25:45,579 --> 00:25:48,415
But he has served adequate prison time.
507
00:25:48,582 --> 00:25:52,418
And he has demonstrated that
he has been rehabilitated.
508
00:25:52,502 --> 00:25:56,423
He deserves a future as a free man
and a productive citizen.
509
00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:04,765
This is Dunaway Gardens.
This is Emil Blonsky's camp.
510
00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:08,893
We have the yurt where we do our yurting.
511
00:26:08,977 --> 00:26:12,648
We have our Room of Feelings
where we express our feelings.
512
00:26:13,774 --> 00:26:16,068
- Jen.
- Wow, this is quite a group.
513
00:26:16,652 --> 00:26:18,653
You're welcome to join.
514
00:26:18,737 --> 00:26:20,238
This is El Águila.
515
00:26:20,322 --> 00:26:22,032
- Man Bull.
- Porcupine.
516
00:26:22,157 --> 00:26:26,036
Dirk Garthwaite and he is,
aka the Wrecker.
517
00:26:26,161 --> 00:26:29,831
We are breaking down
some of the relationships
518
00:26:29,915 --> 00:26:32,625
that are kind of clogging us up
as individuals.
519
00:26:32,709 --> 00:26:37,046
And, you know, doing the work.
520
00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:38,923
We just tryin' to be good people.
521
00:26:39,007 --> 00:26:41,759
We just have different perspective
on what good is,
522
00:26:41,843 --> 00:26:43,094
sometimes, you know what I mean?
523
00:26:43,178 --> 00:26:44,262
Saracen.
524
00:26:45,097 --> 00:26:47,974
Man Bull and El Águila have been spending
a lot of time together.
525
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,310
- Yeah. Mmm-hmm.
- And that's great.
526
00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:54,940
But I'm feeling like maybe
it's not healthy.
527
00:26:55,649 --> 00:26:59,360
We're shooting a very atypically
long scene here, which is really fun.
528
00:26:59,444 --> 00:27:01,571
I think usually when you think
of television scenes,
529
00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:04,365
you don't get to really sit and do
some proper scene work.
530
00:27:04,449 --> 00:27:08,911
But this is like a 16 page scene
where we really see, She-Hulk, Jen,
531
00:27:08,995 --> 00:27:14,167
really kind of, open herself up,
share her vulnerabilities,
532
00:27:14,251 --> 00:27:16,836
share her disappointments, and her fears.
533
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,631
And I think it's a really
beautiful opportunity
534
00:27:19,715 --> 00:27:22,216
to connect with who Jen really is.
535
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:26,262
Everyone legitimately does pay attention
when I'm this.
536
00:27:26,346 --> 00:27:30,434
Like, guys, my colleagues, my boss.
537
00:27:31,393 --> 00:27:35,188
But it does feel like cheating,
in a way,
538
00:27:35,605 --> 00:27:39,442
because I wonder if those people
539
00:27:39,526 --> 00:27:43,155
would like me without all of this.
540
00:27:43,363 --> 00:27:47,617
It epitomizes
these dual sides of our lives, you know?
541
00:27:47,743 --> 00:27:51,120
I think we all wanna be She-Hulk
but we really relate to being Jen Walters.
542
00:27:51,204 --> 00:27:56,125
Maybe you can stop using She-Hulk
as a protective shield
543
00:27:56,209 --> 00:28:00,839
and trust us with Jen.
544
00:28:01,423 --> 00:28:06,010
She's a super-powered being
but you really get into the intricacies
545
00:28:06,094 --> 00:28:08,388
of, like, what she's
dealing with emotionally.
546
00:28:09,723 --> 00:28:13,143
- Yeah!
- Great job.
547
00:28:14,394 --> 00:28:16,313
I gotta say, that felt really good.
548
00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:23,528
Ms. Walters. I have a legal situation
of the greatest importance.
549
00:28:23,987 --> 00:28:25,489
You know, A, I'm a fan
550
00:28:25,697 --> 00:28:31,577
and then B, to, sort of interweave myself
into all of these series
551
00:28:31,661 --> 00:28:32,996
is just the best for me.
552
00:28:33,246 --> 00:28:37,125
- Finally!
- My apologies, Ms. Walters, Emil.
553
00:28:37,209 --> 00:28:40,336
I lost track of time, I was watching
the series finale of Breaking Bad.
554
00:28:40,420 --> 00:28:43,005
It's just fantastic to portal in and out.
555
00:28:43,089 --> 00:28:44,466
You took your time, didn't ya?
556
00:28:44,591 --> 00:28:48,303
He was just so great as Wong.
I just loved working with him.
557
00:28:49,012 --> 00:28:53,016
Let me send Donny to the Mirror Dimension?
He won't last a week.
558
00:28:53,141 --> 00:28:55,643
I would love that.
But that will ruin our case.
559
00:28:55,727 --> 00:29:01,315
On his last day, like, quietly,
suddenly, there was a DJ booth up on,
560
00:29:01,399 --> 00:29:03,234
a set we weren't using.
561
00:29:03,318 --> 00:29:05,529
And Benedict was like, DJing.
562
00:29:14,162 --> 00:29:16,414
He is the best. He is, like, such a dream.
563
00:29:18,625 --> 00:29:19,918
Now, that's magic.
564
00:29:25,298 --> 00:29:27,258
We are in the theater,
at a magic show.
565
00:29:27,342 --> 00:29:31,262
And I don't wanna say cut rate
but not A-list magician,
566
00:29:31,346 --> 00:29:33,682
named Donny Blaze is performing a show.
567
00:29:33,974 --> 00:29:39,395
"A rose, by any other name,
would smell as sweet."
568
00:29:39,479 --> 00:29:42,857
In desperation,
he pulls out a sling ring and thus,
569
00:29:42,941 --> 00:29:47,445
begins a long journey
of trying to get this guy
570
00:29:47,529 --> 00:29:50,907
to stop using real magic
in his fake magic shows.
571
00:29:56,538 --> 00:29:59,374
We were gonna shoot in a real theater
here in Atlanta.
572
00:29:59,541 --> 00:30:03,461
I mean, we had it all drawn up
and planned to go there.
573
00:30:03,545 --> 00:30:05,546
I mean, it was, pretty locked in.
574
00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:07,381
And then, last minute, everybody's like,
575
00:30:07,465 --> 00:30:09,801
"You know, we're doing
so much work to the theater,
576
00:30:09,885 --> 00:30:12,220
"maybe we should just build it."
577
00:30:13,179 --> 00:30:16,307
It was inspired by old-style theaters.
578
00:30:16,391 --> 00:30:21,020
So, full of memorabilias of
magical things and magical elements.
579
00:30:21,104 --> 00:30:24,190
So, we just start with
a strong collaboration
580
00:30:24,274 --> 00:30:27,235
to make sure that the action can
take place in the proper way.
581
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,738
So, for example, in a common theater,
582
00:30:30,822 --> 00:30:32,490
you will have more theater seats.
583
00:30:32,574 --> 00:30:37,037
We decide to take the side rows
and the front and the back rows away
584
00:30:37,162 --> 00:30:40,998
and to have a mix of like, chairs
and tables, exactly for right action.
585
00:30:41,082 --> 00:30:42,583
So, the demons and the fight
586
00:30:42,667 --> 00:30:45,211
can take place and it becomes
a little bit more dynamic.
587
00:30:46,463 --> 00:30:47,923
Oh, wow, look at that!
588
00:30:48,048 --> 00:30:49,591
His name is Donny Blaze.
589
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:51,468
That's his stage name.
590
00:30:52,135 --> 00:30:53,803
I won't reveal his actual name.
591
00:30:54,346 --> 00:30:56,014
What's the matter, Wong?
592
00:30:56,765 --> 00:31:00,060
Are you scared I'll become
more mystical than you?
593
00:31:01,019 --> 00:31:03,479
We wanted the magic and the character
to stand on its own.
594
00:31:03,563 --> 00:31:07,358
So, we actually found
a professional magician to advise him
595
00:31:07,442 --> 00:31:10,403
and consult with him
and Rhys has been working,
596
00:31:10,487 --> 00:31:11,988
you know, super diligently.
597
00:31:12,155 --> 00:31:15,241
Card tricks, rabbits, doves,
you know, smoke bombs.
598
00:31:16,451 --> 00:31:18,911
Well, it's a very
humble profession, magic.
599
00:31:18,995 --> 00:31:21,122
I've been goin' around
trying to practice my tricks
600
00:31:21,206 --> 00:31:24,376
and people are entertained
but then also, sort of
601
00:31:24,793 --> 00:31:26,502
want nothing to do with it.
602
00:31:26,586 --> 00:31:29,172
Backin' away. It's pretty funny.
603
00:31:29,297 --> 00:31:30,631
Donny Blaze!
604
00:31:30,715 --> 00:31:33,593
FYI, these don't smell like anything.
605
00:31:33,718 --> 00:31:37,763
He opens a portal
and an unsuspecting audience member,
606
00:31:37,847 --> 00:31:41,767
who is a party girl, played by
amazing comedian Patty Guggenheim,
607
00:31:41,851 --> 00:31:45,271
falls through the show
and into Wong's sanctum.
608
00:31:45,355 --> 00:31:46,647
Where am I?
609
00:31:46,731 --> 00:31:48,900
What happened to all of the goblins?
610
00:31:49,067 --> 00:31:50,151
Who are you?
611
00:31:50,235 --> 00:31:54,155
The hardest thing to do, I think,
is to play drunk convincingly.
612
00:31:54,239 --> 00:31:57,325
And she's so good at it
that she said it's a dial.
613
00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:59,535
That's how specific and tuned in she is.
614
00:31:59,619 --> 00:32:05,917
Madisynn with two Ns, one Y,
but it's not where you think.
615
00:32:06,501 --> 00:32:12,882
Yeah, I feel like I've been preparing for
this role for a long time in my real life.
616
00:32:12,966 --> 00:32:15,468
Is that too personal?
617
00:32:15,635 --> 00:32:19,680
Madisynn's, like, a superhero
of the real world,
618
00:32:19,764 --> 00:32:22,224
who speaks for all of us.
619
00:32:22,308 --> 00:32:24,268
She's present, she lives in the moment.
620
00:32:24,352 --> 00:32:26,730
And I think we can all take a lesson
from her book.
621
00:32:26,855 --> 00:32:28,898
I kinda like browned out and...
622
00:32:29,357 --> 00:32:30,859
Now I'm here.
623
00:32:32,193 --> 00:32:34,029
We just had a lot of fun there.
624
00:32:34,571 --> 00:32:36,489
Case closed!
625
00:32:36,614 --> 00:32:42,578
The Madisynn-Wong combination,
goes quite well, really.
626
00:32:42,662 --> 00:32:45,706
He's kind of like sort of just...
627
00:32:45,790 --> 00:32:49,543
He's kind of got this puppy dog, really,
that he can't really do anything about.
628
00:32:49,627 --> 00:32:52,172
- Okay, Wongers, can we get fro-yo?
- No.
629
00:32:52,589 --> 00:32:55,591
We could talk about The Sopranos.
630
00:32:55,675 --> 00:32:56,718
Fine.
631
00:32:57,761 --> 00:32:59,012
No more spoilers.
632
00:33:00,764 --> 00:33:05,267
The fun of the show
is to combine this legal world
633
00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:11,440
and all of the possibilities
around superhero weirdness.
634
00:33:11,524 --> 00:33:15,653
I mean, what could happen
when you think of the legal ramifications
635
00:33:15,737 --> 00:33:17,697
of some really amazing, awesome powers?
636
00:33:17,781 --> 00:33:20,825
That's what so wonderful
about the Mr. Immortal episode.
637
00:33:23,536 --> 00:33:24,996
I'm Mr. Immortal.
638
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,042
I am able to regenerate after death.
639
00:33:29,417 --> 00:33:33,880
Unfortunately,
I don't have any other strengths.
640
00:33:34,005 --> 00:33:36,841
I'm not strong or fast,
or necessarily very bright
641
00:33:36,925 --> 00:33:39,802
but I can come back after I die.
642
00:33:39,886 --> 00:33:43,597
I really do not care
for conflict in any way.
643
00:33:43,681 --> 00:33:46,726
As soon as things get comfortable,
I just exit.
644
00:33:46,810 --> 00:33:50,730
Are you saying that instead
of having a conversation with your wife,
645
00:33:51,356 --> 00:33:53,441
you kill yourself to get out
of the relationship?
646
00:33:53,525 --> 00:33:54,984
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't kill myself.
647
00:33:55,068 --> 00:33:57,987
I'm immortal, so I can't die.
648
00:33:58,613 --> 00:34:01,449
Mallory and I clearly side with the women,
649
00:34:01,533 --> 00:34:02,908
but we have to represent him.
650
00:34:02,992 --> 00:34:06,912
And we had a lot of, lot of really funny,
local Atlanta-based guest stars.
651
00:34:06,996 --> 00:34:11,292
I spent $10,000
on a New Orleans jazz funeral.
652
00:34:11,501 --> 00:34:16,297
The way that the three of them really work
together is very funny to watch.
653
00:34:16,506 --> 00:34:18,591
They really have fallen into a groove.
654
00:34:21,469 --> 00:34:23,763
You're gonna have to pay.
655
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:25,598
Why are you smiling?
656
00:34:26,432 --> 00:34:27,433
It's kinda fun.
657
00:34:28,226 --> 00:34:29,727
Another character that we had,
658
00:34:29,811 --> 00:34:33,481
that was so well portrayed
and such a great surprise, was Runa.
659
00:34:33,731 --> 00:34:36,442
We were auditioning, like,
young, beautiful women.
660
00:34:36,526 --> 00:34:38,444
We really could not find somebody.
661
00:34:38,528 --> 00:34:43,824
And I had this crazy dream that
Taika and Jon Favreau were like,
662
00:34:43,908 --> 00:34:47,745
"Kat, you need to play this role.
We've both been in the movies.
663
00:34:47,871 --> 00:34:49,455
"You need to play the shapeshifter."
664
00:34:49,539 --> 00:34:51,166
And I woke up and I was like,
665
00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:55,252
"No, I definitely don't wanna play
the shapeshifter.
666
00:34:55,336 --> 00:34:58,339
"But maybe,
the takeaway is I want someone old."
667
00:34:59,132 --> 00:35:02,510
And I'm not old but I'm older
than the girls we were auditioning.
668
00:35:02,594 --> 00:35:06,972
Thank you so much. Thanks for the dream.
It's now my dream.
669
00:35:07,056 --> 00:35:08,349
We auditioned Peg O'Keef.
670
00:35:08,433 --> 00:35:10,185
We were like, "This is the woman for us."
671
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:12,937
Let that be a warning.
672
00:35:13,021 --> 00:35:16,941
I am, like, the ultimate entitled brat.
673
00:35:17,567 --> 00:35:20,862
However, I'm, I don't know,
3,000 years old.
674
00:35:21,154 --> 00:35:24,407
I know I don't look a day over 2,999,
675
00:35:24,908 --> 00:35:31,122
but for Runa, she has developed
a delicious appetite
676
00:35:31,623 --> 00:35:33,917
for creating trouble everywhere she goes.
677
00:35:34,042 --> 00:35:36,836
I'm not really Megan.
678
00:35:40,089 --> 00:35:43,968
You watch all these movies in
the MCU and everybody has awesome suits.
679
00:35:44,052 --> 00:35:46,846
You know, we just imagined like,
if we, a normal person,
680
00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:50,683
became a super hero one day, like,
would we even know who to ask?
681
00:35:50,767 --> 00:35:53,061
It's not like you can just Yelp,
"Superhero clothes".
682
00:35:53,186 --> 00:35:54,937
Who makes the stuff? Where do they shop?
683
00:35:55,021 --> 00:35:58,607
My client list is very exclusive
because my work is impeccable.
684
00:35:58,691 --> 00:36:00,235
And I'm very discreet.
685
00:36:00,693 --> 00:36:02,736
Just ask any one of the Avengers.
686
00:36:02,820 --> 00:36:06,240
When I first got the job,
I got to tour the warehouse.
687
00:36:06,324 --> 00:36:10,620
There's a Marvel warehouse in
an undisclosed location.
688
00:36:10,995 --> 00:36:15,833
And I got to tour it,
and I saw all of the incredible tailors
689
00:36:15,917 --> 00:36:19,671
and designers making the actual costumes,
and so I learned a lot.
690
00:36:20,129 --> 00:36:22,756
There's a lot of precision,
there's a lot of artistry.
691
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,092
So, it just informed my character.
692
00:36:25,176 --> 00:36:28,930
Tinsley, order extra bolts
of the stretch wool.
693
00:36:30,014 --> 00:36:31,808
We're going to need a lot.
694
00:36:33,518 --> 00:36:38,189
I also kind of went back into the archives
and got a little crazy about Basquiat.
695
00:36:38,398 --> 00:36:43,569
What I liked was the madness of his art
and also the way that he looked.
696
00:36:43,653 --> 00:36:44,696
It was so specific.
697
00:36:44,988 --> 00:36:49,700
And then I also went down
a rabbit hole of, like, black hairstyles.
698
00:36:49,784 --> 00:36:52,453
'Cause I felt like,
"Ah, what's Luke doing?"
699
00:36:52,662 --> 00:36:56,416
He's like halfway in the past
and he's, you know, in the future.
700
00:36:56,582 --> 00:37:00,753
- Oh, I like it!
- Of course you do, because I'm a genius.
701
00:37:01,337 --> 00:37:02,922
And I landed at an eighties mullet.
702
00:37:03,381 --> 00:37:05,883
I don't know who told you
that you could pull off this color,
703
00:37:05,967 --> 00:37:08,928
but you should go back to them
and shoot them.
704
00:37:09,512 --> 00:37:12,390
Now, in the post Endgame world,you know,
705
00:37:12,515 --> 00:37:15,226
there are just more and more
and more superhumans
706
00:37:15,351 --> 00:37:18,437
and there's gotta be one spoiled rich kid
who's gonna want that,
707
00:37:18,521 --> 00:37:22,524
and then use their parents' money to fund,
forcing this to happen.
708
00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:28,990
The store might be closed,
but you forgot about the Guard Frog.
709
00:37:29,365 --> 00:37:32,076
When I put that suit on,
it was like, "Wow."
710
00:37:32,452 --> 00:37:34,078
I look in the mirror, and I'm like,
711
00:37:34,162 --> 00:37:36,914
"I can't believe that I'm in a super-suit
right now. This is insane."
712
00:37:36,998 --> 00:37:40,542
There's no shame in retreat.
Live to leap another day.
713
00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:44,088
Time to ribbit and rip it.
714
00:37:44,172 --> 00:37:46,131
That's, like, three catchphrases.
Pick a lane, man.
715
00:37:46,215 --> 00:37:47,425
Whoo!
716
00:37:50,136 --> 00:37:54,390
You know, Kat sent me a picture
the night before of, like, my throne,
717
00:37:54,474 --> 00:37:56,684
and she was just kind of like, you know,
718
00:37:56,768 --> 00:38:00,229
"Hey, just letting you know,
this is kind of what we're lookin' at
719
00:38:00,313 --> 00:38:02,273
"for your lair."
720
00:38:02,732 --> 00:38:06,194
Even then I was just like,
"What? This was made for me?"
721
00:38:06,444 --> 00:38:08,529
And then I show up that day
722
00:38:08,613 --> 00:38:11,115
and me and Griffin are kinda
walking in at the same time,
723
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:13,909
and he was like,
"Brandon, look behind you."
724
00:38:13,993 --> 00:38:16,870
I turn around
and it's my character on the wall,
725
00:38:16,954 --> 00:38:18,372
bouncin' around and all that,
726
00:38:18,456 --> 00:38:20,208
and I said
"You've got to be kidding me."
727
00:38:20,333 --> 00:38:23,086
Guys, how do we feel about
the name Leap Squad?
728
00:38:24,128 --> 00:38:26,089
You know, like, "Leap Squad!"
729
00:38:26,214 --> 00:38:30,926
We had scouted this used auto part place.
730
00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:35,681
And we had this very dark,
stereotypical villain's lair.
731
00:38:35,765 --> 00:38:38,225
And Kevin Feige actually looked at it
and said,
732
00:38:38,309 --> 00:38:41,020
"It's cool but it feels like
it needs another layer."
733
00:38:41,104 --> 00:38:45,066
And when he said that, we kind of
went crazy with this frog theme.
734
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:48,027
'Cause you think
about poisonous frogs.
735
00:38:48,194 --> 00:38:52,573
They are all colorful like a,
you know, strong yellow or blue.
736
00:38:52,657 --> 00:38:56,577
So that was kind of an inspiration
for that environment.
737
00:38:58,621 --> 00:39:00,832
I can't believe this dodo has henchmen.
738
00:39:01,457 --> 00:39:04,293
Actually, I can.
I bet these goons work for his dad.
739
00:39:05,002 --> 00:39:08,047
We were in the writers' room
and breaking the show.
740
00:39:08,131 --> 00:39:10,716
You know, we really thought
a lot of the magic of the show,
741
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,803
aside from living in Jen's world,
would be tying it to the larger MCU
742
00:39:14,887 --> 00:39:17,431
with all of these different
kind of court cases.
743
00:39:17,515 --> 00:39:21,560
And I think we, we put Daredevil
on kind of, like, a wish list,
744
00:39:21,644 --> 00:39:25,189
'cause we were all fans of Charlie's
and of the original show.
745
00:39:25,273 --> 00:39:27,358
The approach
with bringing him in was,
746
00:39:27,442 --> 00:39:29,401
"Okay, well, he's a lawyer, so, obviously,
747
00:39:29,485 --> 00:39:32,321
"you want to see the two of them
go head-to-head in the courtroom."
748
00:39:32,405 --> 00:39:33,530
But also, you know,
749
00:39:33,614 --> 00:39:38,452
he's the guy who's doing what Jen Walters
is pushing up against,
750
00:39:38,536 --> 00:39:41,831
which is to be a superhero and a lawyer
at the exact same time.
751
00:39:41,956 --> 00:39:45,209
And we wanted to make him, you know,
in keeping with the tone of the series,
752
00:39:45,293 --> 00:39:48,087
a little bit lighter,
a little bit funnier, and also,
753
00:39:48,171 --> 00:39:50,005
who doesn't want to hook up
with Daredevil?
754
00:39:50,089 --> 00:39:52,049
We're all feeling this, right,
it's not just me?
755
00:39:53,176 --> 00:39:56,804
I was doing some theater
on Broadway with Tom Hiddleston.
756
00:39:57,013 --> 00:39:59,473
And, of course, Kevin and Tom
know each other very well,
757
00:39:59,557 --> 00:40:03,519
and Kevin came to see the play and I said
hello afterwards and shook his hand.
758
00:40:03,603 --> 00:40:08,065
But there was no conversation whatsoever
about coming back or anything like that.
759
00:40:08,149 --> 00:40:09,942
And then it was on July 10,
760
00:40:10,026 --> 00:40:13,279
I was in the garden at home and
playing with the kids and the phone rang.
761
00:40:13,446 --> 00:40:15,447
And it was Kevin Feige. And I was...
762
00:40:15,531 --> 00:40:16,866
I thought it was a prank.
763
00:40:17,033 --> 00:40:21,245
And, you know, Kevin said that they had
some plans for me and wanted me to,
764
00:40:21,329 --> 00:40:24,332
potentially do a couple of things.
He just wanted to check and see
765
00:40:24,457 --> 00:40:27,627
if I was interested and willing
to come back and be part of
766
00:40:28,336 --> 00:40:32,089
the MCU, which was,
not a hard question to answer.
767
00:40:32,298 --> 00:40:34,425
So, are you, like, a superhero?
768
00:40:34,926 --> 00:40:37,970
Like the Gold Devil?
769
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:40,473
I'm Daredevil.
770
00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:45,769
Charlie had to inform me that
the character could not, in fact, see.
771
00:40:45,853 --> 00:40:47,939
That is not true. That's not true.
772
00:40:48,064 --> 00:40:53,902
There's a joke we have, we've always had,
which is that "It's very easy to forget."
773
00:40:53,986 --> 00:40:57,322
Because Matt Murdock is so capable,
774
00:40:57,406 --> 00:41:01,160
and that his visual impairment doesn't
actually inhibit him in any way,
775
00:41:01,285 --> 00:41:04,580
you always have to be reminded that
there are certain things...
776
00:41:04,664 --> 00:41:07,499
You can't actually really look at things
in the same way.
777
00:41:07,583 --> 00:41:10,586
But, like, it can sound really
condescending when I'm like,
778
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:13,338
- "Yeah, he's blind, by the way."
- He's not condescending at all.
779
00:41:13,422 --> 00:41:15,382
One of the first things we had,
it was scripted,
780
00:41:15,466 --> 00:41:17,009
they look at each other and I said,
781
00:41:17,093 --> 00:41:19,428
"Oh, this is the moment
where they look at each other."
782
00:41:19,512 --> 00:41:23,432
And he so politely, he said,
"How do... Well, I, I don't...
783
00:41:23,516 --> 00:41:24,808
"He's blind."
784
00:41:24,892 --> 00:41:27,728
Remind me how many times you've taken out
a warehouse full of goons.
785
00:41:27,812 --> 00:41:29,897
Remind me again
who has the superpowers here?
786
00:41:30,606 --> 00:41:32,191
I'm pointing at myself.
787
00:41:32,358 --> 00:41:35,152
Yeah, I know.
I have echo location, remember?
788
00:41:35,236 --> 00:41:37,488
It'd been so long since
I played the character that
789
00:41:37,572 --> 00:41:38,655
it was a little bit like
790
00:41:38,739 --> 00:41:42,326
"God, I hope
I still remember who this guy is,
791
00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:43,911
"if I can still find the feelings."
792
00:41:43,995 --> 00:41:46,079
The suit helped that,
I put that on, I was like,
793
00:41:46,163 --> 00:41:47,164
"I remember this."
794
00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:50,876
It was really, really fun seeing
Daredevil in his suit.
795
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,713
On the day Charlie came out in the suit,
but he didn't have the cowl on yet
796
00:41:54,797 --> 00:41:57,883
and he gets to his mark and
he's in position and everybody's ready,
797
00:41:57,967 --> 00:42:01,386
and the very last thing he did
was finally put the cowl on.
798
00:42:01,470 --> 00:42:03,389
I love this sound.
799
00:42:03,556 --> 00:42:05,974
And as soon as that cowl was on his head,
800
00:42:06,058 --> 00:42:08,018
all of the extras,
we had a big crowd,
801
00:42:08,102 --> 00:42:10,187
and all of them
started applauding and cheering,
802
00:42:10,271 --> 00:42:11,522
and it was just so cool.
803
00:42:11,606 --> 00:42:13,816
I feel like I've actually
come out of retirement.
804
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:18,070
They asked me to come to Los Angeles
to have a suit fitting.
805
00:42:18,362 --> 00:42:21,407
And I assumed it was just
to see if the old one still fit.
806
00:42:21,574 --> 00:42:23,408
Make sure I haven't put
on too much weight.
807
00:42:23,492 --> 00:42:25,661
And, so I flew in.
I went to the costume department
808
00:42:25,745 --> 00:42:29,331
and on the wall, there was a graphic
of a superhero suit.
809
00:42:29,415 --> 00:42:32,417
Initially I was like, "Is tha..."
I couldn't figure out who it was.
810
00:42:32,501 --> 00:42:34,461
I realized it was the new Daredevil suit,
811
00:42:34,545 --> 00:42:37,548
and they'd incorporated
the gold or the yellow
812
00:42:37,632 --> 00:42:39,759
from some of the earlier Daredevil comics.
813
00:42:39,884 --> 00:42:43,428
It feels like this is the first step
in an evolution of this suit
814
00:42:43,512 --> 00:42:45,722
which is why it has
the gold panels in there.
815
00:42:45,806 --> 00:42:50,727
It's almost meant to feel a little bit
like a primer part of the suit.
816
00:42:50,811 --> 00:42:54,357
And it's really fun
seeing Charlie in that suit.
817
00:42:54,857 --> 00:42:57,610
- Think I'm gonna wear it home.
- Okay. See you later.
818
00:42:59,236 --> 00:43:00,446
You need to back off.
819
00:43:00,571 --> 00:43:01,655
And waste this outfit?
820
00:43:01,739 --> 00:43:03,198
The suits are amazing.
821
00:43:03,282 --> 00:43:06,285
And I'm so excited, personally,
about her suit
822
00:43:06,369 --> 00:43:08,662
because it was something that,
823
00:43:08,746 --> 00:43:12,166
you know, we as a team really developed
and really talked about.
824
00:43:12,291 --> 00:43:15,294
We look at who, you know,
she was in the comics
825
00:43:15,378 --> 00:43:16,879
when she was in the suit,
826
00:43:17,171 --> 00:43:23,010
what elements of that suit were important
to everybody and especially color palette.
827
00:43:23,094 --> 00:43:26,263
And so, all of us together
trying to figure out
828
00:43:26,389 --> 00:43:29,225
what is gonna be
the best look for Tatiana.
829
00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:33,645
One of the things we wanted to accomplish
with her suit was have it be powerful,
830
00:43:33,729 --> 00:43:37,774
you know, not be male-gazey
and all hypersexual.
831
00:43:37,858 --> 00:43:41,362
But also be free and show her body off.
832
00:43:43,698 --> 00:43:44,824
She-Hulk smash.
833
00:43:44,990 --> 00:43:48,619
It's cool to take a character
who isn't slick and isn't cool
834
00:43:48,703 --> 00:43:53,665
and isn't confident physically
or any of that and put her in this suit
835
00:43:53,749 --> 00:43:55,667
that feels very confident.
836
00:43:55,751 --> 00:44:00,506
And it does change me and it does
feel like I can feel Jen's excitement.
837
00:44:00,923 --> 00:44:03,383
And like her, kind of,
wonder at getting to be...
838
00:44:03,467 --> 00:44:05,260
Like, I, I'm going, like,
839
00:44:05,344 --> 00:44:08,597
"Oh, my God, I get to be a superhero
the same way that I think she is."
840
00:44:10,891 --> 00:44:12,059
Gotcha.
841
00:44:14,019 --> 00:44:17,147
We really, really,
really struggled with the finale.
842
00:44:17,231 --> 00:44:20,776
We started off doing a lot of versions
of the finale that were much more
843
00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:23,904
just like straight and very,
very Marvel movie, you know,
844
00:44:23,988 --> 00:44:26,740
and it just never felt right for us
to just end in, like,
845
00:44:26,824 --> 00:44:31,244
a big set piece fight and you know,
and take out the bad guy
846
00:44:31,328 --> 00:44:35,123
and it just always felt like,
"Oh, it's a different show now."
847
00:44:35,207 --> 00:44:38,001
And Kevin was the first to kind of
pinpoint that. He was like,
848
00:44:38,085 --> 00:44:39,503
"This isn't a Marvel movie.
849
00:44:39,587 --> 00:44:41,963
"Why are you trying to make it end
like a Marvel movie?
850
00:44:42,047 --> 00:44:43,465
"That's not what the show is."
851
00:44:43,549 --> 00:44:47,178
And it was just really, really wonderful
and freeing for him to say that.
852
00:44:47,344 --> 00:44:49,555
This is not gonna work, right?
853
00:44:50,222 --> 00:44:51,724
We're not actually doing this?
854
00:44:52,475 --> 00:44:55,977
At the end of the day,
Todd really just knows that, like,
855
00:44:56,061 --> 00:44:59,439
he would be definitely the coolest Hulk.
856
00:44:59,523 --> 00:45:02,109
Maybe not the strongest,
definitely not the tallest.
857
00:45:02,193 --> 00:45:07,823
I am, as I've been told,
I believe, the shortest Hulk to date.
858
00:45:10,451 --> 00:45:11,452
Oh. Gross.
859
00:45:12,912 --> 00:45:18,542
The challenge with the finale was blocking
and there's four CG characters.
860
00:45:18,959 --> 00:45:20,001
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
861
00:45:20,085 --> 00:45:24,089
Then we have Abomination,
who's picking Jen up and holding her up
862
00:45:24,173 --> 00:45:25,591
while he's fighting other people.
863
00:45:25,758 --> 00:45:26,883
Get her!
864
00:45:26,967 --> 00:45:28,135
Stop!
865
00:45:28,219 --> 00:45:30,763
And then Hulk arrives.
866
00:45:32,223 --> 00:45:33,682
You have Todd-Hulk.
867
00:45:33,766 --> 00:45:35,476
Yeah, come at me, bro.
868
00:45:36,894 --> 00:45:37,978
Surprise, losers.
869
00:45:38,229 --> 00:45:39,688
And then Jameela fighting.
870
00:45:39,772 --> 00:45:41,440
God! Does that bitch ever use a door?
871
00:45:41,524 --> 00:45:45,110
Just doing the blocking and the design
and making sure each character had
872
00:45:45,194 --> 00:45:49,198
the right moment for them and
then trying to tie all that in together.
873
00:45:49,365 --> 00:45:50,866
It's like a really cool thing.
874
00:45:52,326 --> 00:45:55,996
You just go home, and you go,
"That was pretty wild today,
875
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,418
"acting opposite Ruffalo and,
and Maslany in their CGI dots,"
876
00:46:01,502 --> 00:46:04,463
and you know that
that's gonna turn into
877
00:46:04,547 --> 00:46:06,382
what it's gonna turn into and...
878
00:46:06,715 --> 00:46:10,052
It's pretty crazy. This whole thing
is pretty wild and special.
879
00:46:10,219 --> 00:46:12,888
None of these storylines make any sense.
880
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,683
Is this working for you?
881
00:46:17,726 --> 00:46:19,562
Hey, what do you think you're doing?
882
00:46:19,687 --> 00:46:22,564
I've been in the Marvel Universe
for almost ten years now.
883
00:46:22,648 --> 00:46:28,403
And I could say that I've never done
anything that has been
884
00:46:28,487 --> 00:46:31,323
so close to destroying
the Marvel Cinematic Universe
885
00:46:31,407 --> 00:46:33,075
as this show has.
886
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:40,332
There's a lot of ways that the show
kinda busts through to the viewer,
887
00:46:40,457 --> 00:46:45,754
the same way that She-Hulk in the comics
spoke to the writer and the illustrator.
888
00:46:45,838 --> 00:46:48,089
And sort of, like,
tried to guide her story.
889
00:46:48,173 --> 00:46:49,758
Ah, Marvel: Assembled.
890
00:46:49,842 --> 00:46:50,843
That'll do.
891
00:46:52,344 --> 00:46:54,471
It was Kevin who actually pitched
892
00:46:54,555 --> 00:46:58,099
She-Hulk coming out of
the Disney Plus menu.
893
00:46:58,183 --> 00:47:01,645
I can't remember
how we got to it but at one point,
894
00:47:01,729 --> 00:47:05,774
I had pitched that she should go through
the studio and demand to talk to Kevin.
895
00:47:05,858 --> 00:47:09,236
Wow, She-Hulk. Welcome to Marvel Studios.
How can we help you?
896
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,403
I need to talk to Kevin.
897
00:47:10,487 --> 00:47:13,365
And at first, I pitched that
she would finally get to, like,
898
00:47:13,449 --> 00:47:14,783
the inner sanctum of Kevin
899
00:47:14,909 --> 00:47:17,786
and we'd stunt-cast it with, like,
Jon Hamm or some...
900
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:19,663
Or George Clooney, like,
901
00:47:19,747 --> 00:47:22,791
some debonair handsome man in a tuxedo
and that was Kevin.
902
00:47:22,875 --> 00:47:26,086
But then I was like,
"No, no, no, no. It should be, like,
903
00:47:26,170 --> 00:47:30,299
"an Akira style, like AI kind of,you know, monstrous machine."
904
00:47:30,466 --> 00:47:32,051
Hello, Jennifer.
905
00:47:33,177 --> 00:47:34,470
Kevin?
906
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:39,266
It stands for "Knowledge Enhanced
Visual Interconnectivity Nexus."
907
00:47:39,767 --> 00:47:41,185
Were you expecting a man?
908
00:47:41,727 --> 00:47:46,731
Yeah. Why would I expect
a giant AI brain and not a man?
909
00:47:46,815 --> 00:47:49,485
It's so nuts. It's so absurd.
910
00:47:50,152 --> 00:47:53,071
But I just can't wait to see
how that sequence comes together.
911
00:47:53,155 --> 00:47:56,199
Because again,
it was like in a mo-cap suit.
912
00:47:56,283 --> 00:47:58,743
I can't imagine what it'll look like
when it's She-Hulk.
913
00:47:58,827 --> 00:48:02,038
Wait. So, you're the one
who's making all the decisions here?
914
00:48:02,122 --> 00:48:03,915
I will answer your questions.
915
00:48:03,999 --> 00:48:06,751
But you must first
transform back to Jennifer.
916
00:48:06,835 --> 00:48:07,836
Why?
917
00:48:07,962 --> 00:48:10,505
- You are very expensive.
- Oh, sure.
918
00:48:10,589 --> 00:48:12,632
But wait until the camera is off you.
919
00:48:12,716 --> 00:48:15,510
The visual effects team
has moved on to another project.
920
00:48:15,594 --> 00:48:18,639
- Okay.
- There. Do it now.
921
00:48:20,557 --> 00:48:21,809
- Better?
- Thank you.
922
00:48:22,935 --> 00:48:27,230
In the script, I specified that
when you meet the AI K.E.V.I.N,
923
00:48:27,314 --> 00:48:31,360
that it was just wearing
a classic Kevin Feige black baseball hat.
924
00:48:31,485 --> 00:48:34,571
VisDev was doing different
concept drawings of Kevin
925
00:48:34,655 --> 00:48:37,198
and he always had
a little black baseball hat.
926
00:48:37,282 --> 00:48:40,911
And then when Kevin saw it,
the real Kevin, he was like,
927
00:48:40,995 --> 00:48:43,830
"That doesn't make any sense.
Why would a machine make a hat?"
928
00:48:43,914 --> 00:48:45,749
I was like, "You have a problem with that?
929
00:48:45,833 --> 00:48:47,584
"That's where you
draw the line with logic?
930
00:48:47,668 --> 00:48:52,464
"That the machine that is you,
who is behind the entire Marvel Universe
931
00:48:52,548 --> 00:48:54,591
"is wearing a baseball hat?"
932
00:48:54,675 --> 00:48:56,885
I leave that debate up to the Internet.
933
00:48:56,969 --> 00:49:00,305
So, they designed
what looks like a hat
934
00:49:00,389 --> 00:49:03,475
built into the machine
so that it is part of the machine,
935
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:04,977
but it still looks like a hat.
936
00:49:05,144 --> 00:49:07,521
And that's kind of the happy medium
that we arrived on.
937
00:49:07,646 --> 00:49:10,691
You will not be able
to access the K-E-V-I-N again.
938
00:49:10,816 --> 00:49:11,858
What?
939
00:49:11,942 --> 00:49:13,777
That error on our platform has been fixed.
940
00:49:13,902 --> 00:49:17,239
So, get your K.E.V.I.N. hats
at the Disney store.
941
00:49:17,406 --> 00:49:18,490
Welcome.
942
00:49:18,699 --> 00:49:20,325
Wonder if I get a discount here.
943
00:49:20,701 --> 00:49:22,619
- Twenty percent.
- I'll take it.
944
00:49:24,121 --> 00:49:28,458
It still continues to be like a thing
I'm trying to wrap my head around.
945
00:49:28,542 --> 00:49:32,128
Like, when we're on set,
doing stuff like on location like this.
946
00:49:32,212 --> 00:49:35,840
I start to remember that this is, like,
a whole universe that I'm part of.
947
00:49:35,924 --> 00:49:40,637
This is a multi-year journey
you're about to embark on,
948
00:49:40,721 --> 00:49:43,599
on coming to terms with being the Hulk.
949
00:49:43,724 --> 00:49:45,725
It took a little bit of
getting used to at first,
950
00:49:45,809 --> 00:49:49,521
just how interconnected
everything has to be in the MCU.
951
00:49:49,605 --> 00:49:54,275
But then it is cool later on
when you kind of see like
952
00:49:54,359 --> 00:49:57,904
the threads of different stories
and characters going through,
953
00:49:57,988 --> 00:49:59,698
like, multiple projects.
954
00:49:59,782 --> 00:50:02,076
You got sucked
in another show, didn't you?
955
00:50:02,409 --> 00:50:06,579
Marvel has never let
the weight of the Universe
956
00:50:06,663 --> 00:50:09,958
drag them into something boring.
957
00:50:10,042 --> 00:50:13,045
Because of it, it's alive
and it's constantly shifting,
958
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:14,838
just like the comics were.
959
00:50:14,922 --> 00:50:16,090
It's good.
960
00:50:16,632 --> 00:50:18,425
- It's good to be a Hulk.
- Yeah.
961
00:50:18,509 --> 00:50:20,677
It is such an incredible honor
962
00:50:20,761 --> 00:50:27,600
to be able to be a small part
of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
963
00:50:27,684 --> 00:50:30,646
Like, it's such grand storytelling.
964
00:50:31,313 --> 00:50:34,817
So, to be able to come in
and get to work with these actors,
965
00:50:34,942 --> 00:50:38,362
and get to work with these writers
and with Kevin, it's just, like...
966
00:50:38,695 --> 00:50:40,822
"I can't believe it.
What am I doing here?"
967
00:50:42,074 --> 00:50:44,409
That was so good. That was it!
968
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:46,703
Being here
seeing it all come to fruition
969
00:50:46,787 --> 00:50:48,663
and seeing what every single person
970
00:50:48,747 --> 00:50:52,042
has added to what I already thought
was a really special project
971
00:50:52,167 --> 00:50:54,044
has been the biggest highlight for me.
972
00:50:54,128 --> 00:50:57,339
When I would have hard days,
or something didn't go right,
973
00:50:57,464 --> 00:50:59,132
or I felt tired or frustrated...
974
00:50:59,216 --> 00:51:01,009
Trying to remember my Doctor Strange.
975
00:51:01,135 --> 00:51:03,678
...I'd just pull up
one of my favorite little scenes
976
00:51:03,762 --> 00:51:06,306
and watch it and be like,
"We're doing this."
977
00:51:07,474 --> 00:51:09,768
I think everybody is
just so excited to be here,
978
00:51:09,852 --> 00:51:12,396
so everyone's bringing this really,
979
00:51:12,521 --> 00:51:15,482
positive, collaborative energy.
980
00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:18,777
It's been an embarrassment of riches.
981
00:51:18,986 --> 00:51:22,655
We keep one-uping how cool everyone is
and that just makes it so fun.
982
00:51:22,739 --> 00:51:25,200
I remember distinctly,
when we were wrapping,
983
00:51:25,284 --> 00:51:29,245
I was like, "I don't know if I'm gonna
have an experience like this again."
984
00:51:29,329 --> 00:51:31,039
And I'm so grateful for it.
985
00:51:33,208 --> 00:51:35,127
Yes, yes, yes, yes!
986
00:51:48,765 --> 00:51:50,392
It takes shield's power.
987
00:51:51,018 --> 00:51:53,604
You've taken me from zero
to just above zero.
988
00:51:59,985 --> 00:52:01,490
Was that a spoiler?
989
00:52:02,321 --> 00:52:03,863
Can we rewind the tape?
990
00:52:05,282 --> 00:52:07,784
It's not that I'm into superheroes.
991
00:52:07,868 --> 00:52:11,454
I'm just more attracted to superheroes.
Okay? That's not weird. You know?
992
00:52:11,538 --> 00:52:13,957
You're the weird one,
for saying that that's weird.
993
00:52:14,041 --> 00:52:16,835
So, I'm having trouble
remembering the line.
994
00:52:24,927 --> 00:52:28,055
It was easy. I wasn't scared at all.
Not for a second.
995
00:52:28,513 --> 00:52:29,890
I'm taking this.
996
00:52:31,016 --> 00:52:32,142
Is this gluten free?
997
00:52:32,621 --> 00:52:33,622
Is it?
998
00:52:34,102 --> 00:52:35,103
Oh, whatever.
999
00:52:37,439 --> 00:52:41,025
So, um... Yeah, I wanna go with
the burned sienna, or just sienna.
1000
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:44,363
Have you heard of the saying that
it's dangerous to corner a wild frog?
1001
00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:49,868
Actually, have Car ring ton,
and Bob Thompson just switch jobs.
1002
00:52:50,035 --> 00:52:52,120
All buzz, no bad.
1003
00:52:54,081 --> 00:52:55,540
Yeah. Okay.
1004
00:52:55,749 --> 00:52:59,043
These are... These are...
These are all for you, bruh.
1005
00:52:59,127 --> 00:53:01,004
- These are all for you, bruh.
- Okay.
1006
00:53:01,129 --> 00:53:04,758
- A bodacious buzz, no bleh.
- All right. Okay.
1007
00:53:05,092 --> 00:53:07,761
Oh, and find out
if my sister's still alive.
1008
00:53:08,138 --> 00:53:14,709
I am still prettier than all of you.89189
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