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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,348 --> 00:00:04,218 JACQUI: How old are you now? ARTHUR: 96. 2 00:00:04,252 --> 00:00:05,492 JACQUI: Yeah, 96. 3 00:00:05,522 --> 00:00:09,362 - I'll be 97 next March. 4 00:00:09,395 --> 00:00:11,365 First match I went to 5 00:00:11,399 --> 00:00:15,709 was 1931. 6 00:00:15,742 --> 00:00:17,752 I was seven. 7 00:00:17,779 --> 00:00:20,479 JULIE: So 90 years of following them? 8 00:00:20,518 --> 00:00:22,488 - Up and down. - [laughs] 9 00:00:22,522 --> 00:00:25,132 - Up and down. 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,670 SPENCER: And a football team is not just a football team. 11 00:00:29,703 --> 00:00:33,483 It is something that really brings together 12 00:00:33,511 --> 00:00:36,821 the community in a way that nothing else does. 13 00:00:36,850 --> 00:00:38,650 SHAUN: There's a magic about football 14 00:00:38,688 --> 00:00:40,588 that not everyone will get, 15 00:00:40,625 --> 00:00:43,455 but the die-hard Wrexham fans I know certainly get it. 16 00:00:43,497 --> 00:00:45,267 JULIE: "Three brothers who will be going to Wembley 17 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:50,280 to support Wrexham AFC with a combined age of 254 years." 18 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:52,180 JACQUI: That's it. - [Julie laughs] 19 00:00:52,214 --> 00:00:53,724 - Had, uh, highs. 20 00:00:53,751 --> 00:00:55,721 I've had very lows. 21 00:00:55,755 --> 00:00:58,555 SPENCER: It gives people a real sense of community 22 00:00:58,594 --> 00:01:00,504 and camaraderie 23 00:01:00,531 --> 00:01:04,341 and belonging to something in a way that, without it, 24 00:01:04,372 --> 00:01:06,542 they just wouldn't have. 25 00:01:06,577 --> 00:01:11,087 And-and-and how dare somebody come from outside the area 26 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:13,719 and-and try to take that away from people? 27 00:01:17,666 --> 00:01:19,236 [Buddy Holly's "Everyday"] 28 00:01:19,268 --> 00:01:21,338 BUDDY: [singing] Every day, it's a-getting closer 29 00:01:21,372 --> 00:01:24,612 Going faster than a roller coaster 30 00:01:24,646 --> 00:01:29,586 Love like yours will surely come my way 31 00:01:29,623 --> 00:01:31,863 A-hey, a-hey-hey 32 00:01:31,894 --> 00:01:35,574 Every day, it's a-getting faster 33 00:01:35,602 --> 00:01:39,242 Everyone said, "Go ahead and ask her" 34 00:01:39,275 --> 00:01:43,675 Love like yours will surely come my way 35 00:01:43,718 --> 00:01:46,258 A-hey, a-hey-hey 36 00:01:46,289 --> 00:01:52,399 Love like yours will surely come my way 37 00:02:01,386 --> 00:02:03,786 PERSON: Is it teatime for you now? 38 00:02:03,824 --> 00:02:05,664 Oh-ho-ho-ho. 39 00:02:05,695 --> 00:02:07,295 Are you hungry? 40 00:02:07,331 --> 00:02:09,871 Are you ready for your tea? [gasps] 41 00:02:10,905 --> 00:02:15,545 - Right, buddy, after we finish this... 42 00:02:15,581 --> 00:02:17,891 you're not going to be able to sit and watch telly. 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,489 Mommy and Daddy have got to watch something 44 00:02:19,523 --> 00:02:21,193 on the telly. 45 00:02:21,225 --> 00:02:22,755 And it's about the football. 46 00:02:22,796 --> 00:02:24,226 PERSON: Some people are worried 47 00:02:24,265 --> 00:02:26,465 that Ryan Reynolds and his friend 48 00:02:26,503 --> 00:02:27,873 are just doing it to make money. 49 00:02:27,906 --> 00:02:30,806 [bright classical music] 50 00:02:33,651 --> 00:02:35,291 - So that's what people want to know: 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,890 why have they chosen Wrexham? 52 00:02:36,924 --> 00:02:38,834 Just to make sure that they're-- 53 00:02:38,861 --> 00:02:41,571 they're doing it for a reason that's a good reason. 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,940 There were some people 55 00:02:42,969 --> 00:02:46,379 who bought Wrexham Football Club who didn't want it. 56 00:02:46,409 --> 00:02:48,579 They wanted to knock the football stadium down. 57 00:02:48,614 --> 00:02:50,484 - They wanted to knock? 58 00:02:50,518 --> 00:02:52,518 - So that they could make money. 59 00:02:52,555 --> 00:02:53,685 [light music] 60 00:02:53,724 --> 00:02:57,804 [static crackling] 61 00:02:57,832 --> 00:02:59,672 LOUISE: These are turbulent times 62 00:02:59,703 --> 00:03:01,673 for Wrexham Football Club. 63 00:03:01,707 --> 00:03:04,977 Its future is on a knife-edge amid talks of debts amounting 64 00:03:05,013 --> 00:03:08,453 to millions and asset stripping. 65 00:03:08,486 --> 00:03:11,426 SPENCER: Going back to the early 2000s, 66 00:03:11,459 --> 00:03:14,299 the football club had a number of challenges. 67 00:03:14,331 --> 00:03:17,941 It had owners who, eh, who-who frankly that-that 68 00:03:17,972 --> 00:03:19,812 their sole reason for ownership 69 00:03:19,843 --> 00:03:22,253 was not for the betterment of the football club, 70 00:03:22,281 --> 00:03:23,981 and the football club was in danger. 71 00:03:24,018 --> 00:03:25,988 LOUISE: For the last two years, 72 00:03:26,022 --> 00:03:27,992 this club has been owned by one man, 73 00:03:28,026 --> 00:03:30,566 and tonight we unravel the truth 74 00:03:30,598 --> 00:03:33,268 behind rumors surrounding Alex Hamilton. 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,909 - Alex Hamilton was actually the-the owner 76 00:03:36,944 --> 00:03:39,984 of the football club, but another gentleman, eh, 77 00:03:40,016 --> 00:03:42,516 was, eh, was-was sort of fronting the ownership 78 00:03:42,555 --> 00:03:44,385 for a while, and-and we didn't know 79 00:03:44,425 --> 00:03:47,455 Alex Hamilton was in-in the background. 80 00:03:47,499 --> 00:03:49,269 LOUISE: Two years ago, Alex Hamilton 81 00:03:49,301 --> 00:03:52,271 bought the controlling share of Wrexham Football Club. 82 00:03:52,307 --> 00:03:54,007 Keeping his own identity secret, 83 00:03:54,044 --> 00:03:56,924 he installed a business associate as chairman. 84 00:03:56,950 --> 00:03:58,890 Mark Guterman was a controversial choice 85 00:03:58,921 --> 00:04:00,461 among fans. 86 00:04:00,491 --> 00:04:02,391 He'd already taken local rivals Chester 87 00:04:02,428 --> 00:04:04,268 into administration and relegated 88 00:04:04,298 --> 00:04:05,868 from the football league. 89 00:04:05,902 --> 00:04:08,272 BRYN: The club was sold to those two people, 90 00:04:08,306 --> 00:04:12,406 and their, uh, idea of what the value of this football club 91 00:04:12,448 --> 00:04:16,058 didn't really revolve around it being a football club. 92 00:04:16,088 --> 00:04:18,358 LOUISE: A former solicitor who lives here in Cheshire, 93 00:04:18,393 --> 00:04:20,633 Alex Hamilton was struck off by the Law Society 94 00:04:20,665 --> 00:04:22,365 two years ago for charges 95 00:04:22,401 --> 00:04:24,671 including allegations of mortgage fraud. 96 00:04:24,706 --> 00:04:27,036 He appealed, and most of the charges against him, 97 00:04:27,077 --> 00:04:29,277 including the mortgage fraud, were withdrawn. 98 00:04:29,315 --> 00:04:30,985 Reinstated last year, 99 00:04:31,018 --> 00:04:34,388 Hamilton now describes himself as a property developer. 100 00:04:34,425 --> 00:04:35,695 BRYN: This was a time of, you know, 101 00:04:35,728 --> 00:04:38,498 a lot of redevelopment work going on around the UK. 102 00:04:38,534 --> 00:04:39,904 There was a bit more money flowing around again 103 00:04:39,936 --> 00:04:44,306 in the economy and people were looking for opportunities. 104 00:04:44,345 --> 00:04:46,515 Small football clubs are always financially vulnerable, 105 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:48,920 and this has long been the case in England and Wales. 106 00:04:48,954 --> 00:04:50,324 Wrexham were in that position now. 107 00:04:50,357 --> 00:04:51,787 They were vulnerable, 108 00:04:51,827 --> 00:04:53,897 and I think these guys spotted that vulnerability 109 00:04:53,931 --> 00:04:56,441 and recognized that in this big stadium site 110 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:58,439 that you have here, which is on the edge of town, 111 00:04:58,473 --> 00:05:01,313 it's a prime position potentially for redevelopment. 112 00:05:01,345 --> 00:05:03,715 LOUISE: The Racecourse is the premier sports ground 113 00:05:03,751 --> 00:05:05,721 in North Wales. 114 00:05:05,755 --> 00:05:08,685 The Ground has a long history, and fans recently invested 115 00:05:08,727 --> 00:05:11,897 in its future by buying bricks in the new stand. 116 00:05:11,934 --> 00:05:14,004 There's lots of building work going on here. 117 00:05:14,038 --> 00:05:17,038 It's a prime site at the main gateway to the town. 118 00:05:17,077 --> 00:05:18,947 If it had planning permission, 119 00:05:18,981 --> 00:05:22,091 the Racecourse could be worth at least £10 million... 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,330 just the kind of land a property developer 121 00:05:24,358 --> 00:05:26,098 might dream of finding. 122 00:05:26,128 --> 00:05:29,368 [dark music] 123 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:33,009 SPENCER: Well, the history, the present, 124 00:05:33,042 --> 00:05:35,482 and the future of Wrexham Football Club 125 00:05:35,515 --> 00:05:37,685 is interwoven with the Racecourse stadium. 126 00:05:37,719 --> 00:05:39,119 Without the Racecourse stadium, 127 00:05:39,154 --> 00:05:41,834 there is no Wrexham AFC. 128 00:05:41,860 --> 00:05:44,600 If the stadium goes, the football team goes. 129 00:05:44,633 --> 00:05:47,513 [Spiro's "We Will Be Absorbed"] 130 00:05:47,539 --> 00:05:50,949 ROB: So the club doesn't currently own the Racecourse. 131 00:05:50,978 --> 00:05:55,888 We pay approximately $150,000 a year to lease the stadium. 132 00:05:55,922 --> 00:05:58,492 Moreover, the club is also on the hook for any updates, 133 00:05:58,527 --> 00:06:00,497 refurbishments, enhancements that we wanna do, 134 00:06:00,531 --> 00:06:02,401 and we've been able to do a few of those. 135 00:06:02,434 --> 00:06:04,744 But what we really wanna do is return the stadium 136 00:06:04,773 --> 00:06:08,513 to being the crown jewel of North Wales. 137 00:06:08,547 --> 00:06:10,617 But sadly, we have an entire stand called "the Kop" 138 00:06:10,651 --> 00:06:12,691 that is, for all intents and purposes, condemned, 139 00:06:12,722 --> 00:06:14,632 and we can't do anything with that 140 00:06:14,659 --> 00:06:18,899 until the club once again owns the Racecourse... 141 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:21,814 which is proving to be... 142 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,880 difficult? 143 00:06:25,715 --> 00:06:27,685 [beep beep] Hey, Shaun? 144 00:06:27,719 --> 00:06:32,029 Can we get an update on, um, where we are with the purchase 145 00:06:32,060 --> 00:06:34,400 of the, uh, freehold for the Racecourse? 146 00:06:34,431 --> 00:06:37,771 - Um, it's proving to be, uh, a challenge. 147 00:06:37,805 --> 00:06:40,075 The-the title deeds are old. 148 00:06:40,110 --> 00:06:43,820 The Land Registry plans aren't as clear as you'd hope. 149 00:06:43,851 --> 00:06:46,691 Um, we're just reviewing them all to get them all together, 150 00:06:46,723 --> 00:06:48,893 and we're gonna get there as quick as we can. 151 00:06:48,928 --> 00:06:50,558 RYAN: There's nothing that we can do to-- 152 00:06:50,598 --> 00:06:53,038 to maybe to help speed it up or-or expedite in some way? 153 00:06:53,069 --> 00:06:56,639 - Well, some of these laws were drawn up in the 1400s, 154 00:06:56,677 --> 00:06:59,547 so they-they didn't anticipate 155 00:06:59,582 --> 00:07:01,622 the pace at which people would want to do things. 156 00:07:01,653 --> 00:07:03,793 - It is frustrating, and it's annoying 157 00:07:03,824 --> 00:07:07,164 and, uh, it's hard to-- it's hard to give you a-- 158 00:07:07,197 --> 00:07:10,667 a rationale as to why it should take this long 159 00:07:10,705 --> 00:07:12,735 other than these things do. 160 00:07:12,775 --> 00:07:14,505 I mean, I-I'm all for due process, 161 00:07:14,546 --> 00:07:17,616 but we-we made a promise. 162 00:07:17,652 --> 00:07:19,662 It's in our original mission statement. 163 00:07:19,689 --> 00:07:21,789 The Racecourse needs to be back in club hands. 164 00:07:21,827 --> 00:07:24,097 Everybody wants it to be back in club hands. 165 00:07:24,131 --> 00:07:26,071 And yet months and months and months go by. 166 00:07:26,102 --> 00:07:27,842 And the-I-look, my frustration 167 00:07:27,872 --> 00:07:31,782 is that we can't start on the development process. 168 00:07:31,813 --> 00:07:33,983 - Do we have a rough estimate as to when we'll have 169 00:07:34,018 --> 00:07:36,558 some kind of answer? 170 00:07:36,590 --> 00:07:40,970 - No, other than it can't take that much longer. 171 00:07:40,998 --> 00:07:43,098 RYAN: Holy... - [laughs] I mean, it's just-- 172 00:07:43,136 --> 00:07:44,636 it's Kafkaesque. 173 00:07:44,673 --> 00:07:46,813 Like, we are-- we're-we're trapped. 174 00:07:46,843 --> 00:07:49,083 - And what-and what's worse is we're even on record 175 00:07:49,114 --> 00:07:51,094 since we promised it that-that we're actually 176 00:07:51,118 --> 00:07:53,688 on with it and we've got everything in place. 177 00:07:53,724 --> 00:07:56,534 I'm amazed we've not had any-- had any more questions 178 00:07:56,563 --> 00:07:59,673 from the public and the fans as to why it's taking-- 179 00:07:59,703 --> 00:08:01,573 why it's taking this length of time. 180 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:04,846 - Okay, well, I guess we'll talk later. 181 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:06,049 - Uh, bye, guys. 182 00:08:06,082 --> 00:08:07,052 [beep beep] 183 00:08:10,992 --> 00:08:11,932 ANNOUNCER: Oh, he's all on his own. 184 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,560 Can he make it five? 185 00:08:13,597 --> 00:08:15,667 GERAINT: We are, uh, one of the oldest clubs 186 00:08:15,701 --> 00:08:16,671 in the world. 187 00:08:16,703 --> 00:08:19,143 [dramatic music] 188 00:08:19,174 --> 00:08:22,014 Uh, and that's quite impressive in itself. 189 00:08:22,047 --> 00:08:24,617 ANNOUNCER: No doubt about that in terms of Wrexham. 190 00:08:24,652 --> 00:08:26,962 GERAINT: The Racecourse itself is the oldest existing 191 00:08:26,990 --> 00:08:30,830 international venue that still hosts football. 192 00:08:30,865 --> 00:08:33,835 HUGHIE: Better football, better prospects 193 00:08:33,871 --> 00:08:36,141 to get what we so desire in Wrexham. 194 00:08:36,175 --> 00:08:37,745 GERAINT: The name "the Racecourse" 195 00:08:37,779 --> 00:08:40,889 was 'cause the venue was a racecourse. 196 00:08:40,918 --> 00:08:43,758 The local authorities wouldn't allow betting, 197 00:08:43,791 --> 00:08:45,961 and-and so the tenancy dropped off 198 00:08:45,995 --> 00:08:48,095 and-and the football took over...kept the name. 199 00:08:48,132 --> 00:08:50,642 ANNOUNCER: Can he make it five? 200 00:08:50,671 --> 00:08:52,241 And Jones makes it five! 201 00:08:52,274 --> 00:08:54,244 [cheering] 202 00:08:54,278 --> 00:08:57,018 GERAINT: It's just been our home for all our existence. 203 00:08:57,050 --> 00:08:58,290 [cheering, chanting] 204 00:08:58,319 --> 00:09:00,119 [echo fades] 205 00:09:00,156 --> 00:09:03,196 [static crackling] 206 00:09:03,229 --> 00:09:05,029 LOUISE: When Alex Hamilton took over the club, 207 00:09:05,066 --> 00:09:06,036 the Ground was owned 208 00:09:06,068 --> 00:09:09,038 by Wolverhampton & Dudley Brewery. 209 00:09:09,074 --> 00:09:12,354 They leased it to the club for £1 a year. 210 00:09:12,380 --> 00:09:15,050 The club approached the brewery to buy the freehold. 211 00:09:15,086 --> 00:09:16,616 And the very same day 212 00:09:16,656 --> 00:09:18,126 that the brewery sold the Ground 213 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:19,799 to Wrexham Football Club, 214 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:22,299 it was immediately transferred to another company, 215 00:09:22,334 --> 00:09:23,874 Damens Limited. 216 00:09:23,904 --> 00:09:27,284 Damens is wholly owned by Alex Hamilton. 217 00:09:27,310 --> 00:09:29,280 So the Ground belonged to one company 218 00:09:29,314 --> 00:09:31,324 and the club belonged to another. 219 00:09:31,352 --> 00:09:35,262 But both were controlled by Alex Hamilton. 220 00:09:36,061 --> 00:09:39,201 SPENCER: Their idea was to separate the club 221 00:09:39,234 --> 00:09:42,174 from the stadium and then bulldoze the stadium 222 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:45,047 and turn it into, um, into a profit. 223 00:09:45,079 --> 00:09:47,379 [Spiro's "Wolves"] 224 00:09:47,417 --> 00:09:51,757 BRYN: So they had, um, a plan, and it was a plan 225 00:09:51,793 --> 00:09:55,943 to basically kill the football club, effectively. 226 00:09:55,968 --> 00:09:58,238 They took all the investment out over a period 227 00:09:58,272 --> 00:10:00,952 so it wasn't overt initially. 228 00:10:00,978 --> 00:10:02,718 But it became apparent that things weren't-- 229 00:10:02,748 --> 00:10:04,818 bills weren't getting paid effectively. 230 00:10:04,853 --> 00:10:06,923 LOUISE: The Inland Revenue is currently charging the club 231 00:10:06,957 --> 00:10:09,827 £150 a day in interest 232 00:10:09,863 --> 00:10:12,973 on a debt of more than £800,000. 233 00:10:14,706 --> 00:10:16,936 Earlier this year, things got so bad 234 00:10:16,977 --> 00:10:19,207 the bailiffs were called in. 235 00:10:19,248 --> 00:10:20,748 They assessed the club's assets 236 00:10:20,784 --> 00:10:22,354 down to the last plastic seat, 237 00:10:22,387 --> 00:10:25,357 floodlight, and lawn mower. 238 00:10:25,393 --> 00:10:27,833 If the tax bill remains unpaid, 239 00:10:27,865 --> 00:10:30,095 those assets will be seized. 240 00:10:30,136 --> 00:10:31,706 - You know, I couldn't believe 241 00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:34,950 that they would treat the fans like that. 242 00:10:34,979 --> 00:10:36,149 It's a-- 243 00:10:36,182 --> 00:10:38,092 Sorry. - [crew member laughs] 244 00:10:38,119 --> 00:10:39,889 - You know, 'cause we loved it so much 245 00:10:39,923 --> 00:10:42,833 and they were just destroying it for money. 246 00:10:42,862 --> 00:10:47,242 And it was just so frustrating. 247 00:10:47,270 --> 00:10:51,110 LOUISE: Mr. Hamilton refused our requests for an interview. 248 00:10:51,145 --> 00:10:52,445 We went to the Racecourse, 249 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,380 where he was attending a board meeting. 250 00:10:54,418 --> 00:10:56,718 Wales' Week In Week Out program. 251 00:10:56,756 --> 00:10:58,826 I wanted to ask you, are you sure that the transfer 252 00:10:58,861 --> 00:11:02,131 of the Racecourse Ground into your private campaign is legal? 253 00:11:02,167 --> 00:11:04,167 - We came here... - Can you answer that question? 254 00:11:04,204 --> 00:11:06,144 - We came here to deal with 255 00:11:06,175 --> 00:11:08,105 a son passing away. - Asset stripping as well. 256 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:09,915 ALEX: [indistinct] 257 00:11:09,949 --> 00:11:11,849 LOUISE: Mr. Hamilton, please answer my questions. 258 00:11:11,887 --> 00:11:13,387 - I came here to deal with one topic, 259 00:11:13,422 --> 00:11:16,762 which is a personal one of irregular support-- 260 00:11:16,796 --> 00:11:18,726 LOUISE: You've been in a board meeting. 261 00:11:18,767 --> 00:11:20,267 You've been in a board meeting. Mr. Hamilton, 262 00:11:20,303 --> 00:11:22,173 you are being accused of asset stripping this club. 263 00:11:22,207 --> 00:11:23,477 What do you have to say about that? 264 00:11:23,510 --> 00:11:26,050 - Gop. Total rubbish. LOUISE: It's not rubbish. 265 00:11:26,081 --> 00:11:27,281 Why have you transferred 266 00:11:27,317 --> 00:11:28,917 the freehold of this club into your own-- 267 00:11:28,954 --> 00:11:30,464 why have you transferred... - Excuse me a moment. 268 00:11:30,490 --> 00:11:32,900 - The freehold of this club... ALEX: Excuse me. 269 00:11:32,929 --> 00:11:34,199 LOUISE: Into your own company? Why have you done that? 270 00:11:34,231 --> 00:11:37,171 - I had to deal with [indistinct] passing away. 271 00:11:37,204 --> 00:11:39,014 LOUISE: Please stop and talk to us, Mr. Hamilton. 272 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:40,341 These are really important issues 273 00:11:40,376 --> 00:11:43,176 we want to discuss with you. 274 00:11:43,216 --> 00:11:45,816 Mr. Hamilton was not at the funeral. 275 00:11:45,854 --> 00:11:48,194 He was attending a directors' meeting at the club. 276 00:11:49,495 --> 00:11:51,765 Fans were getting worried. 277 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,040 They organized mass opposition to Alex Hamilton's plans. 278 00:11:55,073 --> 00:11:57,043 He had dropped a bombshell. 279 00:11:57,077 --> 00:11:58,977 He said the Racecourse would have to be sold 280 00:11:59,014 --> 00:12:01,124 if the club was to survive. 281 00:12:01,151 --> 00:12:03,461 Last July, he served a legal notice on the club 282 00:12:03,489 --> 00:12:05,759 to leave the Racecourse within a year. 283 00:12:05,794 --> 00:12:06,764 [crowd chanting] 284 00:12:06,796 --> 00:12:09,426 After 130 years, 285 00:12:09,468 --> 00:12:12,168 this season could be the last that Wrexham play there. 286 00:12:12,207 --> 00:12:13,237 CROWD: We will not surrender! 287 00:12:13,276 --> 00:12:15,146 [chanting indistinctly] 288 00:12:15,981 --> 00:12:17,121 SPENCER: The supporters rallied round 289 00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:19,320 and really fought hard. 290 00:12:19,354 --> 00:12:20,934 - And I was only a kid and we were walking round the Ground 291 00:12:20,958 --> 00:12:22,828 with-with banners and, you know, 292 00:12:22,862 --> 00:12:24,332 just anything to save your club. 293 00:12:24,364 --> 00:12:26,504 SPENCER: There was a lot of-- 294 00:12:26,536 --> 00:12:29,066 you could call it guerilla warfare really. 295 00:12:29,107 --> 00:12:30,977 BRYN: It was a-- 296 00:12:31,011 --> 00:12:33,321 a campaign that was taken to their front doorsteps. 297 00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:38,830 - The fans got together. - Mm, yep. 298 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:39,960 - Yeah. - And said, "We'll have 299 00:12:39,996 --> 00:12:42,326 to do something drastic." 300 00:12:42,367 --> 00:12:43,997 JACQUI: Yeah, we did. JULIE: Mm. 301 00:12:44,037 --> 00:12:45,507 - And so we did. 302 00:12:45,541 --> 00:12:48,281 BRYN: The fans gathered in the town in Cheshire 303 00:12:48,312 --> 00:12:50,382 just over the border, where Alex Hamilton lived, 304 00:12:50,416 --> 00:12:52,086 and they marched through the town 305 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,420 protesting against his ownership 306 00:12:53,456 --> 00:12:55,286 of the football club. 307 00:12:55,326 --> 00:12:57,096 LOUISE: It signaled a declaration of war 308 00:12:57,130 --> 00:12:58,500 against the chairman. 309 00:12:58,533 --> 00:13:00,443 [crowd chanting] 310 00:13:00,470 --> 00:13:03,840 The very same day, Alex Hamilton responded. 311 00:13:03,877 --> 00:13:05,377 BRYN: He'd walked up 312 00:13:05,413 --> 00:13:08,993 and started talking to a few people there. 313 00:13:09,021 --> 00:13:12,131 And this-this was in a week where he'd described the fans 314 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,030 as lowlife scum, and there he was in the middle of 'em. 315 00:13:15,066 --> 00:13:17,566 [crowd chanting] 316 00:13:17,605 --> 00:13:19,005 LOUISE: Fans thought his actions 317 00:13:19,041 --> 00:13:21,981 were an attempt to incite trouble. 318 00:13:22,013 --> 00:13:24,023 - [scoffs] We-we think he went on there 319 00:13:24,051 --> 00:13:26,161 in the hope that somebody would hit him, 320 00:13:26,188 --> 00:13:29,998 so that he could, uh, make a great political capital 321 00:13:30,029 --> 00:13:31,469 out of the fact that we were football hooligans 322 00:13:31,499 --> 00:13:32,999 and what have you. 323 00:13:33,035 --> 00:13:35,005 [crowd chanting] 324 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,179 LOUISE: Hamilton has since been advised by the police 325 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:40,320 not to attend home matches at his own club. 326 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:43,290 [crowd chanting] 327 00:13:48,366 --> 00:13:50,166 BRYN: In a fit of rage, 328 00:13:50,203 --> 00:13:52,583 he decided that he was gonna resign. 329 00:13:52,608 --> 00:13:55,148 And he scrawled it down on a napkin. 330 00:13:55,179 --> 00:13:57,079 Basically, I think, wrote, "I resign" 331 00:13:57,117 --> 00:13:59,917 and signed it "Alex Hamilton." 332 00:13:59,956 --> 00:14:01,486 That was him saying, "I want out," 333 00:14:01,526 --> 00:14:04,056 and that was them saying, "Great. Fine. Off you go." 334 00:14:04,097 --> 00:14:06,297 [tense music] 335 00:14:06,335 --> 00:14:08,335 [dramatic musical sting] 336 00:14:08,372 --> 00:14:10,582 ROB: Hey, hi, hi, hi, hi. 337 00:14:10,611 --> 00:14:14,081 Have you heard from Shaun recently 338 00:14:14,117 --> 00:14:16,187 about the Racecourse purchase? 339 00:14:16,221 --> 00:14:17,461 RYAN: Yeah. 340 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:19,560 Yeah, it is taking a long, long, 341 00:14:19,595 --> 00:14:21,365 long, long, long fucking time. 342 00:14:21,398 --> 00:14:24,908 Um, but I also, you know, I also recognize 343 00:14:24,939 --> 00:14:27,649 that this is not a simple thing. 344 00:14:27,678 --> 00:14:29,378 ROB: I think the thing that drives me crazy 345 00:14:29,414 --> 00:14:32,194 is that this is not a process 346 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:33,620 that is in place to protect people. 347 00:14:33,657 --> 00:14:36,057 In fact, the people that are getting fucked 348 00:14:36,095 --> 00:14:37,355 are the people that are marginalized 349 00:14:37,397 --> 00:14:39,197 that are the ones that get fucked over 350 00:14:39,234 --> 00:14:40,544 always in these kinds of... RYAN: Rob tends to be 351 00:14:40,571 --> 00:14:42,071 a bit of a hothead. 352 00:14:42,107 --> 00:14:43,537 Rob's like-if you were in a burning building, 353 00:14:43,577 --> 00:14:45,607 Rob is-Rob is the first guy 354 00:14:45,647 --> 00:14:47,147 who's gonna run into that building 355 00:14:47,183 --> 00:14:49,523 and-and pull you out. 356 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,085 I might look at, like, the version 357 00:14:51,125 --> 00:14:52,225 where we all get out. 358 00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:53,930 [laughs] Like, okay. 359 00:14:53,964 --> 00:14:56,074 Like... [laughs] 360 00:14:56,101 --> 00:14:58,111 That window is molten lava. 361 00:14:58,139 --> 00:14:59,339 I'm not gonna run through there 362 00:14:59,374 --> 00:15:00,944 because I won't make it to the person. 363 00:15:00,978 --> 00:15:02,518 [laughing] Like, wait, let's just take a second 364 00:15:02,548 --> 00:15:03,678 and think about this. 365 00:15:03,717 --> 00:15:05,347 So yeah. So what I'm saying is, 366 00:15:05,386 --> 00:15:06,556 everyone would die in my version. 367 00:15:06,589 --> 00:15:08,229 [both laugh] 368 00:15:08,259 --> 00:15:10,659 Just Rob would die in his. 369 00:15:10,697 --> 00:15:13,237 - You're so much more patient than me--you're so patient. 370 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:15,539 - I'm not so much more patient. I just drink more. 371 00:15:15,574 --> 00:15:17,314 ROB: [laughs] Is that what I need to do? 372 00:15:17,343 --> 00:15:18,453 I should just drink. 373 00:15:18,479 --> 00:15:20,149 - And if you need any, uh, any gin, 374 00:15:20,183 --> 00:15:23,393 I-I got a guy. 375 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,632 ROB: Oh, okay. All right. 376 00:15:25,661 --> 00:15:29,231 Well... all right, I guess we'll just keep waiting. 377 00:15:29,267 --> 00:15:31,107 - We'll just keep waiting. Um, yeah. 378 00:15:31,138 --> 00:15:32,978 Waiting is, uh, my favorite color. 379 00:15:33,008 --> 00:15:35,108 I will, uh, I will talk to you very, very soon 380 00:15:35,146 --> 00:15:36,676 and uh, miss ya, love ya. - [sighs] 381 00:15:36,716 --> 00:15:39,516 - Miss you, love you, miss you, love you, bye. 382 00:15:39,555 --> 00:15:41,015 He's too nice. 383 00:15:42,495 --> 00:15:44,665 He's too nice. 384 00:15:44,699 --> 00:15:46,569 It just-it drives me crazy. 385 00:15:48,339 --> 00:15:50,679 Not him being nice. That doesn't drive me crazy. 386 00:15:50,711 --> 00:15:54,051 It drives me crazy that we have to... 387 00:15:54,084 --> 00:15:56,094 just keep waiting. 388 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:57,561 We're past the due process 389 00:15:57,591 --> 00:15:59,701 of-of protecting everybody involved. 390 00:15:59,729 --> 00:16:02,299 We're-we're, uh, we're months past that. 391 00:16:02,333 --> 00:16:05,273 It's-it's literally waiting for some lawyer 392 00:16:05,306 --> 00:16:07,076 to call another lawyer 393 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:08,580 who's then gotta call a committee 394 00:16:08,613 --> 00:16:11,693 and the committee meets once every three months. 395 00:16:11,719 --> 00:16:14,459 And if they miss that because someone's got the flu, 396 00:16:14,492 --> 00:16:16,732 then it gets kicked to the bottom of the pile 397 00:16:16,763 --> 00:16:19,473 and another lawyer has to call another lawyer, 398 00:16:19,502 --> 00:16:22,312 and in-and in the interim, 399 00:16:22,340 --> 00:16:25,450 it's the team and the town that get fucked over 400 00:16:25,479 --> 00:16:30,359 because in-under the auspices of protecting the club, 401 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:32,599 it's hurting the club because we can't do 402 00:16:32,628 --> 00:16:33,698 any renovation. 403 00:16:33,730 --> 00:16:35,630 We can't do any real updating 404 00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:37,297 because everything has to go through this process. 405 00:16:37,337 --> 00:16:41,037 And so we have this plan to-to revitalize 406 00:16:41,078 --> 00:16:44,048 the-the-the stadium, and we can't do anything 407 00:16:44,084 --> 00:16:45,454 until we get this information, 408 00:16:45,486 --> 00:16:48,486 so needless to say, I'm a little bit frustrated 409 00:16:48,527 --> 00:16:53,037 and Ryan is not because he's drunk or whatever. 410 00:16:58,245 --> 00:16:59,475 [Spiro's "I Fear You Just as I Fear Ghosts"] 411 00:16:59,515 --> 00:17:01,485 GERAINT: So Wrexham is a small town. 412 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:04,089 We had the mines starting to close down. 413 00:17:04,124 --> 00:17:07,064 We had the Steelworks, and that was closing down as well. 414 00:17:07,096 --> 00:17:09,166 And that has an effect with the football club. 415 00:17:09,201 --> 00:17:11,171 The rent became too much. 416 00:17:11,205 --> 00:17:16,345 So in 2014, the supporters got together and saved the club. 417 00:17:16,381 --> 00:17:19,321 We had to raise £100,000. It was just amazing. 418 00:17:19,354 --> 00:17:21,234 Kids were bringing piggy banks. 419 00:17:21,258 --> 00:17:22,258 JACQUI: But we survived. ARTHUR: Yeah. 420 00:17:22,293 --> 00:17:23,303 JACQUI: We survived. JULIE: We did. 421 00:17:23,329 --> 00:17:23,959 JACQUI: We survived. JULIE: We did. 422 00:17:23,997 --> 00:17:26,197 We rose again like a phoenix 423 00:17:26,235 --> 00:17:27,465 of the ashes. - [laughs] 424 00:17:27,504 --> 00:17:28,274 - You know, this is how-- this is how bully 425 00:17:28,305 --> 00:17:30,105 Wrexham fans are. We come together 426 00:17:30,142 --> 00:17:34,222 and we raised £127,000 in one day to save the club. 427 00:17:34,251 --> 00:17:35,651 And Chester didn't when they were-- 428 00:17:35,687 --> 00:17:37,257 when they were going bust. 429 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:38,630 Their fans didn't rally round. 430 00:17:38,660 --> 00:17:40,260 They went dead. Boomf. 431 00:17:40,296 --> 00:17:42,366 Wrexham fans wouldn't allow that to happen. 432 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,210 JULIE: Oh, that's when-- that's when we took over. 433 00:17:45,239 --> 00:17:49,209 When we managed to get control of it, 434 00:17:49,247 --> 00:17:53,417 that really was one of the highlights for me. 435 00:17:53,455 --> 00:17:56,695 Regardless of what we won with-with trophies and things. 436 00:17:56,729 --> 00:17:58,429 That was marvelous, but to think 437 00:17:58,465 --> 00:18:00,635 that we could safeguard the club, 438 00:18:00,671 --> 00:18:02,511 that was just fantastic, you know? 439 00:18:02,541 --> 00:18:04,181 And-and... 440 00:18:04,210 --> 00:18:06,280 oh, gosh. [laughs] 441 00:18:06,315 --> 00:18:08,645 [soft music] 442 00:18:08,687 --> 00:18:11,857 BRYN: On one hand, the club was in safe hands again now, 443 00:18:11,893 --> 00:18:14,533 but on the other, it's actually quite an expensive business 444 00:18:14,565 --> 00:18:15,825 running a football club. 445 00:18:15,867 --> 00:18:18,167 SPENCER: It's ordinary Joes 446 00:18:18,205 --> 00:18:20,305 with whatever they can afford. 447 00:18:20,343 --> 00:18:21,853 You know, the minimum some people are putting in it 448 00:18:21,879 --> 00:18:24,589 is £12 a year. 449 00:18:24,619 --> 00:18:26,419 You know, some people contribute 450 00:18:26,455 --> 00:18:28,185 a lot more than that. 451 00:18:28,225 --> 00:18:30,795 Some people only put in the minimum amount 452 00:18:30,831 --> 00:18:33,401 but then do lots of volunteering 453 00:18:33,435 --> 00:18:36,305 and-and-and contributing in other ways. 454 00:18:36,341 --> 00:18:38,181 JACQUI: Walked up mountains literally. 455 00:18:38,212 --> 00:18:39,852 Walked up Snowdon, didn't they? JULIE: Yes. 456 00:18:39,882 --> 00:18:41,322 - To raise money... JULIE: Yes. 457 00:18:41,351 --> 00:18:42,351 - For the club. JULIE: Yeah. 458 00:18:42,387 --> 00:18:44,487 And didn't we do a-a collection 459 00:18:44,525 --> 00:18:45,855 for the wages once? BOTH: Yep. 460 00:18:45,894 --> 00:18:47,304 - Yes. - Yep, yep. 461 00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:49,700 [overlapping chatter] 462 00:18:49,735 --> 00:18:51,135 - Yeah, pulled together to pay wages. 463 00:18:51,171 --> 00:18:52,711 JACQUI: We just passed a hat around. 464 00:18:52,741 --> 00:18:54,411 JULIE: Kenny Pemberton... - Yeah, people-- 465 00:18:54,444 --> 00:18:55,584 JULIE: His house. - Yeah, people put... 466 00:18:55,614 --> 00:18:57,824 JULIE: Gosh. JACQUI: Put money in and-- 467 00:18:57,851 --> 00:18:59,561 well, we all did, didn't we? - Mm. 468 00:18:59,588 --> 00:19:01,218 And we've got a lot to be grateful 469 00:19:01,258 --> 00:19:03,328 to the-to the Trust for. 470 00:19:03,362 --> 00:19:05,202 And all those people who worked so hard. 471 00:19:05,232 --> 00:19:07,472 JACQUI: Yeah, yeah. - I mean, we're members, 472 00:19:07,504 --> 00:19:09,374 but there's people that worked harder than us. 473 00:19:09,407 --> 00:19:10,877 JACQUI: Gosh, yeah. - Gosh. 474 00:19:10,911 --> 00:19:12,851 - Frankly, the club has been struggling 475 00:19:12,881 --> 00:19:16,891 from that point onwards to this very day. 476 00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:18,733 If the club doesn't do so well 477 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,900 and the attendance goes down, 478 00:19:20,931 --> 00:19:23,241 then the manager doesn't get as much money 479 00:19:23,268 --> 00:19:26,608 as he was expecting to get to invest in his football side, 480 00:19:26,642 --> 00:19:29,482 and so the football team isn't quite as good again. 481 00:19:29,515 --> 00:19:31,785 So it's been an issue that's followed the club 482 00:19:31,819 --> 00:19:33,319 through all the years 483 00:19:33,355 --> 00:19:35,455 that the fans have been in control. 484 00:19:35,494 --> 00:19:38,504 [melancholic music] 485 00:19:38,533 --> 00:19:40,203 GERAINT: It's an outdoor setting, 486 00:19:40,236 --> 00:19:42,636 so it does wear and tear, weathers. 487 00:19:42,674 --> 00:19:44,954 It needs work all the time. 488 00:19:44,979 --> 00:19:47,649 Obviously, behind the goal, we've seen "the Kop," 489 00:19:47,684 --> 00:19:50,264 uh, was closed 'cause we just didn't have the money 490 00:19:50,289 --> 00:19:51,759 to-to keep it open. 491 00:19:51,793 --> 00:19:53,103 Oh, God. It's all leaking, isn't it? 492 00:19:53,128 --> 00:19:55,798 Uh, we used to get, uh, people complaining that the r-- 493 00:19:55,834 --> 00:19:57,474 when on a rainy day, the rain was coming through 494 00:19:57,504 --> 00:19:59,744 and dripping on them. 495 00:19:59,775 --> 00:20:02,245 They just drain money, don't they, football grounds? 496 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,950 BRYN: The club lost control of the stadium 497 00:20:03,983 --> 00:20:07,263 and the club began this inexorable slide down 498 00:20:07,290 --> 00:20:08,790 through the tiers into this position 499 00:20:08,827 --> 00:20:11,797 that it now finds itself in, in this fifth tier. 500 00:20:11,833 --> 00:20:15,443 So it had a-it had a seismic impact on the club. 501 00:20:15,473 --> 00:20:17,583 - I didn't see a lot of hope under the Trust ownership 502 00:20:17,611 --> 00:20:19,551 and that's not a dig at them because, you know, 503 00:20:19,582 --> 00:20:21,692 they've put their time in and I respect them for it. 504 00:20:21,719 --> 00:20:23,719 So it's not a dig at them in the slightest. 505 00:20:23,757 --> 00:20:25,227 I just didn't see an out for the club. 506 00:20:25,259 --> 00:20:26,929 I didn't see a-- I didn't see a way forward. 507 00:20:26,963 --> 00:20:30,273 Um, a lot of fans didn't see a way forward. 508 00:20:30,302 --> 00:20:32,982 - You know, those times were real bad, real low, 509 00:20:33,008 --> 00:20:35,678 really low because you--you knew we didn't have the money 510 00:20:35,714 --> 00:20:36,954 to get players. 511 00:20:36,983 --> 00:20:39,393 You knew players weren't getting paid on time. 512 00:20:39,421 --> 00:20:41,661 So it was just a knock-on effect 513 00:20:41,692 --> 00:20:44,002 and it was-it was a terrible time to be a fan. 514 00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:45,700 It's been... [laughs] it's been a terrible time 515 00:20:45,734 --> 00:20:47,304 to be a fan for a long time now 516 00:20:47,336 --> 00:20:48,706 to say the truth. 517 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:50,410 - Sam walked in and he said, "You'll never guess 518 00:20:50,443 --> 00:20:52,353 who's bought Wrexham Football Club." 519 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:53,720 And I said, "Who?" 520 00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:55,550 He said, "Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney." 521 00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:56,857 I said... 522 00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:59,429 "As in Ryan Reynolds 523 00:20:59,461 --> 00:21:02,301 as in actor and Rob"-- I said, "I don't know him." 524 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:04,303 He said, "Oh, yeah, you wouldn't know him. 525 00:21:04,337 --> 00:21:05,707 Always Sunny in Philadelphia." I said, 526 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:07,340 "Oh, yes. Right, okay." 527 00:21:07,376 --> 00:21:08,846 Uh, I said, "You're joking." 528 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,450 "Nope, that's right," he said. 529 00:21:10,483 --> 00:21:11,453 "They've bought it." [laughing] I said, 530 00:21:11,485 --> 00:21:13,315 "I can't believe it." 531 00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:17,895 Funny though, how, you know, a little bit of good news... 532 00:21:17,931 --> 00:21:19,031 - Rubs off. - Suddenly boosts 533 00:21:19,067 --> 00:21:20,467 everything up. - Rubs off. 534 00:21:20,504 --> 00:21:22,344 - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, that's amazing. 535 00:21:22,373 --> 00:21:23,343 Isn't it? - Mm. 536 00:21:23,375 --> 00:21:24,375 - What's happening now for me 537 00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:27,480 is reward, um, 538 00:21:27,518 --> 00:21:29,488 for the-the effort and the sacrifices 539 00:21:29,522 --> 00:21:31,062 that supporters have put into football club over the years. 540 00:21:31,091 --> 00:21:33,001 - And when they came into buy it this time, 541 00:21:33,028 --> 00:21:35,628 I was a bit suspicious and I thought, 542 00:21:35,667 --> 00:21:38,467 "You know, are they going to love the club like we do? 543 00:21:38,506 --> 00:21:42,776 "Are they really going to-to have 544 00:21:42,815 --> 00:21:46,345 the-the best interests of the club at heart?" 545 00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:47,858 And I just hope they don't let us down. 546 00:21:47,891 --> 00:21:50,031 You know, it's, um, you know, we-- 547 00:21:50,062 --> 00:21:52,002 well, we pray that they don't let us down. 548 00:21:52,033 --> 00:21:53,543 - They better not. - Yeah. 549 00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:55,040 - You-you wouldn't cross a Wrexham fan. 550 00:21:55,072 --> 00:21:57,482 - Don't, 'cause Wrexham-- Wrexham fans don't forgive... 551 00:21:57,511 --> 00:21:59,051 - They don't forgive easily. - Very easily. 552 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,990 [light music] 553 00:22:10,637 --> 00:22:11,907 [phone chimes] ROB: You have some news 554 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:13,679 for us? 555 00:22:13,710 --> 00:22:15,750 Is it good news? - Well, it is. 556 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:18,690 After, uh, many months of trying 557 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,920 and, uh, frustration, 558 00:22:20,957 --> 00:22:22,557 I would like to congratulate you. 559 00:22:22,594 --> 00:22:24,934 You are now the proud owners of the Racecourse Ground. 560 00:22:24,965 --> 00:22:27,095 - Whoa! - Yes! 561 00:22:27,136 --> 00:22:29,576 Oh, my God! RYAN: Come on! 562 00:22:29,608 --> 00:22:30,908 There we go! 563 00:22:30,944 --> 00:22:33,424 - Wrexham AFC owns the Racecourse Ground 564 00:22:33,448 --> 00:22:34,988 and, uh, you've made it possible 565 00:22:35,019 --> 00:22:37,789 and, you know, and keeping-- and keeping true to your words 566 00:22:37,824 --> 00:22:40,634 in the mission statement, so congratulations. 567 00:22:40,664 --> 00:22:42,404 - Truly, you have made it possible-- 568 00:22:42,433 --> 00:22:46,683 you, um, HK and Shaun and-and-and Ryan. 569 00:22:46,709 --> 00:22:48,949 Like, I-I've just-- I-I hadn't-- 570 00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:51,420 I lost my patience with it so long ago 571 00:22:51,451 --> 00:22:52,961 that I had to check out of it completely 572 00:22:52,988 --> 00:22:54,588 and I just appreciate you guys. 573 00:22:54,625 --> 00:22:56,085 - This is why Shaun wanted to do it over Zoom 574 00:22:56,127 --> 00:22:58,427 is he-he wanted to see your angry, 575 00:22:58,465 --> 00:23:00,465 scrunched-up, sad little face, Rob, 576 00:23:00,503 --> 00:23:02,713 blossom into a smile. 577 00:23:02,741 --> 00:23:04,881 RYAN: Having the oldest international 578 00:23:04,912 --> 00:23:07,682 football stadium on the planet under our stewardship 579 00:23:07,718 --> 00:23:09,588 is, like, both elation 580 00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:12,032 and weirdly, I can feel an ulcer growing 581 00:23:12,059 --> 00:23:13,829 as we speak. - [laughs] 582 00:23:13,863 --> 00:23:15,603 - Oh, have you got the email I've just sent you? 583 00:23:15,634 --> 00:23:17,574 'Cause there is a second bit of news today. 584 00:23:17,604 --> 00:23:18,874 - Oh! SHAUN: If you open-- 585 00:23:18,907 --> 00:23:19,937 If you-so there you go. 586 00:23:19,975 --> 00:23:21,105 So if you want to open it up, 587 00:23:21,144 --> 00:23:24,154 they are your first rendered images 588 00:23:24,183 --> 00:23:26,123 of the new stand 589 00:23:26,154 --> 00:23:28,134 the AFL architects have put together for us. 590 00:23:28,158 --> 00:23:29,128 - Wow! - Oh. 591 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,860 Wow. 592 00:23:30,897 --> 00:23:34,607 - That is a big-time football stadium right there. 593 00:23:34,638 --> 00:23:36,608 That is a-- - And that's just one stand. 594 00:23:36,642 --> 00:23:37,882 That's just "the Kop" stand. - Yeah. 595 00:23:37,911 --> 00:23:39,651 - So-so what would be the next stand 596 00:23:39,682 --> 00:23:40,752 that we would do? - Ugh, give him an inch, 597 00:23:40,784 --> 00:23:41,994 he'll take a mile, Shaun. 598 00:23:42,019 --> 00:23:43,619 I'm so sorry about-- 599 00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:45,626 Wait, when can we--when can we show this to the public? 600 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:49,130 - Uh, I need to go through the Council with Levelling Up Fund. 601 00:23:49,167 --> 00:23:52,037 We probably need to warn a couple of people 602 00:23:52,073 --> 00:23:54,013 at the Council it's coming out, 603 00:23:54,043 --> 00:23:56,483 and then we can arrange a public launch 604 00:23:56,515 --> 00:23:59,045 and I think it'd be really useful to do that 605 00:23:59,087 --> 00:24:00,517 because you have to have a pre-- 606 00:24:00,557 --> 00:24:03,027 uh, a pre-application consultation period-- 607 00:24:03,061 --> 00:24:06,001 ROB: A pre-application consultation period? 608 00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:07,144 SHAUN: More bureaucracy, I know. 609 00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:09,509 But at least-- - It's incredible. 610 00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:11,041 Let's just put it out. Let's just put it out. 611 00:24:11,077 --> 00:24:12,547 Let's just put it out. SHAUN: At least, at least-- 612 00:24:12,581 --> 00:24:14,181 no, don't just put it out yet. 613 00:24:14,217 --> 00:24:16,617 We-I'll-I'll give you the-- I'll give you the nod 614 00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:17,956 when you can put it out. - Incredible. 615 00:24:17,991 --> 00:24:19,501 - Thank you, Shaun. Thank you for that great news. 616 00:24:19,528 --> 00:24:20,498 - Pleasure. RYAN: That is so neat. 617 00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:21,930 - We're putting out the video. 618 00:24:21,966 --> 00:24:22,866 We're putting out the video, we're putting out the video. 619 00:24:22,901 --> 00:24:24,171 Bye, love you, love you, bye. - Oh, boy. 620 00:24:24,203 --> 00:24:25,913 - Okay, bye. - Bye, bye, bye, bye. 621 00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:31,850 [grand orchestral music] 622 00:25:36,916 --> 00:25:38,546 [child giggles, seagull cries] 44955

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