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>There are some Bible prophecies that you may

actually live to see.

Now that's an exciting

thought and we're going to have a lot of discussion today with our good

friend s Bill Salus and Tom Hughes. Guys it's great to have

you here. >>It's great to be here with you Gary, it's fantastic.

>>>Hi Gary. Especially to be here with Tom.

>You know the idea of living to see Bible prophecy fulfilled,

very exciting, a lot of Christians are talking about the rapture of the church,

of course there's always that conversation but you go a little deeper,

right? >>>We do. It's interesting, we saw Bible prophecy

fulfilled in 1948 with the rebirth of the nation of Israel

but that's been over 70+ years now so

the ?? of the states right now, in fact all the end-time signs Tom and I have

had this discussion, they're converging. There's no weapon that's not fashioned, no

national relationship that's not formed, no technology that's not developed that couldn't

spiral all the biblical prophecies of the end times happening soon and sequentially

and when they start to happen I don't believe there's going ot be another 70 year interval

between the prophecies to come like we've

seen with the rebirth of Israel. >Now Bill I know you and Tom have had

long conversations about these things but let's just drop a name

Iran. Iran. And by the way you see a lot

about Iran on television today and there could

be a fulfillment of Bible prophecy in Iran in the near future, right?

>>Right. Iran is a subject of dual prophecies

one, they're most commonly understood in Ezekiel

38:5 under the banner of Persia, that Ezekiel 38 invasion

I know Tom has taught on this quite a bit on his teachings

and his shows. The other one is in Jeremiah 49

Jeremiah wrote about in 596 BC about Elam,

when you look at a map of modern-day Iran Elam hugs

the Persian Gulf, and then Persia covers the rest

of central and northern part of Iran. So you've got two end-tomes

prophecies both Ezekiel and Jeremiah talk about in the latter days,

so they've both got prophecies dealing with these latter days and they're not the same prophecies.

So Iran has a double jeopardy. >Now you have put together a

study and I'm going to hold this up,

"The Pretribulation Prophecies" and by the way both Tom

and you have your names on this and you've worked together on it

but there are some crazy things happening guys in the Middle East,

right now. And for the past four or five years

or so things have kind of stabilized over there and everybody thought,

well no problem. But now we're seeing some destabilization

and let's et into a discussion of what's happening in the Middle East.

>>Yeah well I look at it Gary and I think this is one of the reasons why

Bill and is project together.

I called him, he doesn't live too far from me, and I said Bill how about

some lunch and let's do this work together.

>Yeah. >>And I look at Bill as being an expert on these prophecies

and also having a really good understanding of the geopolitical

situation in the mideast especially when we look

you said the last four or five years it was relatively, the lid was kept

on things, but that whole thing has changed, the situation has changed.

So Bill and I did this project together. It's

exciting and I think it's just a great tool for people to have in their hands too.

>All right Bill. What prophecy might we see

fulfilled in the near future? >>>You brought up Iran,

on my radar I think that's the elephant in the room, that's the next

biblical prophecy to find fulfillment. I would suggest Jeremiah

49:34-39.

Six verses dealing with a nuclear disaster in

Elam that's of course right on the west by the Persian Gulf there,

they've got the Bushehr nuclear reactor there, they've got Bushehr 1 there,

Bushehr 2 and 3 are coming, Russia is helping them with them,

and there's also, that's where the closest place where they can launch

missiles into Israel, they've got underground silos in there and that sort of thing,

so it's, I'm watching very closely because it looks like

when the details of that prophecy that there's a nuclear disaster creating

humanitarian crisis, indigenous population become

exiles and it says they go out into all the nations which is going to be globally impacting

and you know if something like that happens a disaster in

Iran at this present time Iran's got its tentacles

spread out throughout the whole Middle East with Hezbollah to the north of Israel,

150,000 missiles pointed at Israel, Syria's mentioned chemical weapons,

over 300 times they estimate Syria used chemical weapons during the

revolution. Hamas proxy of Iran, missiles that they're flaring

up all the time with Israel. Now you've got Jihad militias in Iraq,

that Iran has control over and you've go the Houthies down in Yemen. Israel is

surrounded by dangerous belligerence.

So I think we need to keep our eye on Iran and especially Jeremiah 49.

>You know just across the Jordan River there is

Jordan and Israel I think has had a kind of stable relationship

with Jordan but you're suggesting that might drop too.

>>>Yeah a lot of people believe that Israel has

its peace treaty with Jordan, which they do since 1994,

and they'll always get along now but the point is there's biblical prophecies

in Jeremiah 49 also, we just talked about Jeremiah 49

Elam well Jeremiah 49:1-6 talks about Ammon, Jordan

Ammon and it's going to be a desolate mound. Israel is going to take possession of its

inheritance so it sounds like a war is going to happen so

Jordan is a subject of end-times prophecies. these prophecies have not found fulfillment yet.

So I tell people those peace treaties between Israel and Jordan

are paper thin according to these prophecies. >Much, much

is happening, and in a hurry it seems to me. In fact

since the last US election things seem to have

speeded up everywhere, right Tom? >>Uh, yeah. I would

say they have speeded up everywhere. So when we look at the dynamic of all the different

events of the last days, I think it was

David Reagan who said there's 106 signs regarding the first coming of

Christ that were fulfilled. There's some teachers that say there were over

300 but Reagan has it on a conservative number

because some of the signs are duplicated, 106. Joel Rosenburg's

says there's 8 times as many signs of the second coming of

Christ as his first. So that would put us at well over 800 signs

of the second coming of Christ and things are developing

everywhere worldwide exactly as the Bible says. Signs of the Old Testament, signs of the New Testament. But the biggest

sign of all is what's taking place in Israel. The convergence of

all things but here's the key is with all the signs converging

you can have 800 different signs taking place but if Israel wasn't a nation again

if they didn't have Jerusalem, if they didn't have these events going on

in in the Mideast with Iran and the threatening that's taking place

wit the various wars then these other signs wouldn't have

a placeholder for our day but they are all happing and the key the things

that Bill and I are talking about is the key that

this must take place in the last days while all the other

events are taking place. Israel has to be a nation and they have to be facing

the geopolitical situation that they are facing right now.

And that's why we look at this and we go, wow we are very close

to the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. >The pre-tribulation

prophecies and that

really that's a good title because we talk bout the pre-tribulation

rapture of the church, but we rarely

kind of say, wait a minute there is a quickening period or

there is

an area to watch according to Bible prophecy as we get closer

and closer to the rapture of the church. >>>Right. >And that's what you're doing.

>>>A lot of the Christians today fall into a couple different

camps. one is the rapture is going to happen, I'm a pretrib rapture believer

whatever happens after that I don't care about I won't be here.

Well your loved ones will be so we want to bring that out right front and center.

This is something you can leave for your loved ones if you're concerned a

about them. So you get raptured, you've got something tangible for them in these days of censorship.

I want you to talk about that too because you're experiencing all kinds of censorship

but one last thing too, the other audience is, well I've been talking to my

kids and loved ones about the prophecies but they're falling on deaf ears,

I get the straight arm, I don't care, that sort of thing. Well

listen, like Gary said in the beginning when he opened this show

up, he said 'you might live to see these prophecies'

these are prophecies that our viewers, the Christians today in the church age might view

and actually see and live through because the rapture we don't know when that's going to happen.

We can see the Iran prophecies and the Jordan prophecies and things

like that in the Middle East happen, you see what's going on in the news right now, something's about to break wide

open over there in the Middle East. But then again in the

rapture is going to happen and there's two different periods in the tribulation that we need to

talk about, there's a church age which we're in right now but after the rapture the

church age ends then you have the gap age. In other words there's a gap

because it's not the rapture that starts the tribulation. There's an unspecified period of time called

a gap, I call it the post rapture (after the rapture) pre-tribulation (pre-trib)

because it's before the tribulation gap in there. Because it's a

confirmation of the false covenant in Daniel 9:27 and Isaiah 28:15,

that starts the tribulation period. So I've said a mouthful

but talk about the reason we wanted a tangible product.

>To me Tom it's kind of like a transition. The period that Bill's talking about

seems like a transition after the rapture. >>Yeah. >And of course

we won't be here, others will be and they will

be I think in a state of some tumult.

And I think it's part of your purpose, just

to lay this out for people that may be left behind. >>Yeah

well let me put together two different things. The rapture for

understanding, the rapture will take place. then some time after the

rapture will be the covenant of Antichrist, Daniel chapter 9

we might get into that later, the covenant that's going to take place

that covenant begins the tribulation period. The problem

is how long of a gap is there from the rapture until

this covenant is confirmed? I don't believe it's going to happen the next day.

I don't believe the rapture, the next day is the covenant. What's going to

transpire? So this gives people who are left behind the opportunity to be able

to look at the DVD that they're not going to be able to get online. Censorship will

be off the charts. >True. >>They'll be able to see it and go, oh my.

This is, they told us that these things were going to happen.

It will help them to understand that this is true, that the Bible is true, everything in

it is true. So it gives them that understand. And the other thing that it

does Gary, even with some of the prophecies as you mentioned

what are going to see fulfilled before the rapture even takes

place when we look at it that way, I get questions as a pastor all the time,

from people or even accusations telling me

we're in the tribulation, why don't you tell people we're-we are not in the

tribulation. But we may see some very interesting things develop

even before the rapture of the church. So you have things we may

see happen before the rapture of the church and then things after the rapture of the

church that will definitely start to take place.

So we look at this DVD series that we've done, it's helping to equip

people now, equip saints now. But also it leaves something

behind for people to be able to learn from and undretna

the days they live in. >We're talking with Tom Hughes a

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>Well that's how you can get your copy

of "The Prophecy Watcher". I find this topic

guys, kind of challenging because you're

talking and I'm sitting here trying to visualize, okay I'm left

behind. The world has radically changed,

and my hope now having

gone past the rapture, is to get with a group

of the saints and start praying and start

preparing and is

that part of the reason you put this together? >>>Yeah, you know

more and more we're starting to realize it's survival now and especially after the rapture

is going to depend on a person's ability to understand Bible prophecy

anticipate they're coming and prepare for those events when they happen.

Especially when you get into the tribulation. The rivers all turn to

blood, and the vegetation's all burned up. You need to know in advance what's going

on, and that's what Bible prophecy is about. The secular

worldview is not the only news out there right now, the fake news. You've got the biblical narrative,

and the prophetic perspective. And we're trying to give those three different

perspectives, understand them all but understand that God has given us information

so we can prepare for it and evangelize through it. And the thing

about the gap, what's interesting

is that our colleagues would say yeah we believe there's a gap but they don't really spend a lot of time talking

about it. So right now in this DVD we've got probably about

15-20 potential pre-tribulation prophecies, we'll talk about a few of them

in these shows. But the bottom line is once the rapture happens

the church age ends and everything that wasn't fulfilled in the pre-tribualtion prophecies

goes into the gap. That gap could be filled with bilbicies, Ezekiel 38

might even fall in that gap, that's a big prophecy.

So we're trying to sequence the events as we think they might happen.

We try to do it in a sequential order so people could see this coming

prepare for these events, witness through these events. and the other thing

too I want to say, I know not every person out there is an evangelist

but they want to share with their family, this is their

friend in need, this DVD is important to them because Tom is very good at

evangelizing inside the DVD. We talk about the prophecies, we talk about how they can

affect you. These are globally impacting events. So for instance in Iran,

Iran has strong relationship to build with Russia and China right now so if Iran

starts getting Elam prophecy

you know Russia and China will have something to meddle with that. America's got an interest in the Middle East

now with the Abraham Accord. This is globally impacting.

Just because something happens in the Middle East doesn't mean Americans are going to be insulated

from it. Once this stuff starts to happen it's going to affect everybody. >You know when I said

a minute ago if you find yourself left behind you've got to find a saint

and I thought to

myself, wait a minute the saints are all gone. But

Bibles are everywhere, every house has a Bible and

I believe there will be something of a revival

Bill and I think you probably want to play a part in that. >>>It's those saints,

right Tom? >>Yes,

you have people that are saved during the tribulation period a few different types,

don't you Bill? >>That's right three different periods of Christian

-and they're persecuted heavily by one, the Harlot World Religion we're told that'll come on the scene

after the rapture, this global religion we're told that will come on the scene after the rapture,

this global religion Revelation 17:6 as she's drunk with the blood of the saints and the

martyrs of Jesus. Ultimately after her the Antichrist will have her

dethroned the ten kings will desolate her in Revelation 17:6

and the Antichrist comes on the scene and of course that

Revelation 13 no one will buy or sell unless they take the Mark of the Beast and

he's beheading Christians who are refusing to take the Mark of the Beast. >So there are saints.

>>>Yeah and that happens in the great tribulation, the saints. >And there are people out there who will

be looking for the answer and looking for Christ and they'll

remember what their aunts and uncles used to say and how they scoffed at

it but now they're not scoffing anymore. >>Right I look at it like this, you

mentioned Bibles being left behind, we've-Bill earlier you

mentioned about censorship so I firmly believe that you get into

the tribulation period there's not going to be such a thing as a Bible app.

>yeah, yeah. >>You aren't going to find things online anymore like that,

but Bibles are going to be left behind and I believe the Bible

is still the best-selling book int he world year after year after year.

So there's going to be-Bibles are going to be left behind, people are going to be saved,

I believe the greatest

revival or whatever you want to call it, that takes place, people turning to faith in the Lord Jesus

Christ, ever will take place during the tribulation period. You have the

144,000 Jews in the beginning and then you do read

out of every tribe nation tongue and peoples, that Gentiles,

they are being saved during the tribulation period. Why

are they being saved? Because of what you just said and Bill just said. They've hard

the truth they've watched this DVD or another

one they have a message that's not censored because it's not

on -still online or something like that. This

is something that they've got and they've heard it

from their sister, their friend. >You could call it maybe another great

awakening. >>I would call that, yeah. >I'd love to call it that!

>>I would call it THE great awakening! (chuckles) >>>And they'll know

the cost because there'll be martyrdom

and it won't be the popular choice because there will be alternative deception out there.

After the rapture Satan is freed with no

restraint to unleash supernatural deception, all powers signs and lying wonders.

So someone could pick up this DVD would go, look.

The things on this DVD happened, the destruction of Damascus, the Iran prophecy, etc.

The rapture of the church. There's other pervasive lie out there that that

wasn't the disappearance the rapture of the church, that was something else, right?

And that will be the popular choice. Someone who accepts Christ

on the merits of

that was the proof Jesus was the way the truth and the life is going to be in the minority

of although there will be many of them but it will come at quite a cost for them.

>Yeah and Bill I want to ask you a question, this is not necessarily

in the list of things I was going to talk about but it just occurred to me,

after the rapture Israel is going to experience something

entirely different. They're going to become a strong

nation. Talk about that just for a minute, because if somebody's

left behind they want to be looking toward Israel. >>>That's right, and Israel

is a subject like Tom said of the centerpiece of end times Bible prophecy.

The little tiny Israel that we know now the size of New Jersey pretty much,

the little Jewish state is going to expand territorially, we get into the prophecies that

talk about a territorial expansion. We talk about the

exceedingly great army that Israel is prophesied to become, Israeli defense forces

are in Bible prophecy, we get into several of them on this DVD. I believe they will

take out their Arab enemies, we show the prophecies that relate to that. They will

expand territorially into some of those. Then Russia comes

down from the North with its hordes, Turkey and Iran, and God stops

that supernaturally, that Ezekiel 38 invasion and Israel at that

point in time they're cleaning up in the aftermath and say in the beginning

world renown they're burning weapons for seven years,

they're burying the dead for seven months and they get world renown. So

the Israel of tomorrow which is not too far away through a sequence of

the Arab wars, Ezekiel 38, is not the Israel of

today, Gary. And the rapture will happen in the midst of that somehow. >Wow! Well as you can

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Bill,

I can't even, I don't know how to say this. I've talked with you over the years

and you have a way of going in and digging out little

details that other people just kind of walk past and if you

want to know how to

kind of focus in on what will happen

and be an expert,

I think if people just listen to what you're saying they will become that expert

>>>Yeah, God wants them to know Bible prophecy, I

mean He did not take about 1/3 of the Bible, that precious

real estate for nothing. He has that advance information to improve us and like

Tom said I mean there's probably a couple thousand verses

of unfulfilled biblical prophecy still remaining to come together n the end times

that God wants us to know about. Tom and I talked about this when we were on the set doing the DVD,

this is the time of all times that I'm so glad to be alive as

long as I know what I know prophetically speaking. But if I

didn't know what the Bible said was going to come it would probably be the most dangerous and threatening time to be alive.

So we really encourage people to get this DVD because it's

-we explain why they're pretribulation, we explain the details, we explain how they affect

you and your family and then Tom does a great job evangelizing

throughout the mix of the DVD so you actually can lead people to the

Lord through this DVD. >Speaking of which I would like for Tom

just to say a few words right now in the couple minutes or so that we have remaining,

to that individual, that potential individual

who needs to hear about the Lord and he doesn't understand

quite what has happened. >>You bet.

I look at the events that are taking place right now and

pretty much everybody in the world knows that something is not right.

We have a lot of questions, everybody does. Listen,

the Bible has answers, Jesus Christ is our only hope.

Everything is happening exactly as the Bible said it would. As we mentioned earlier

in the program over 800 signs of the second coming of Christ,

they are all coming together right now. God wants us to know

that in Him is hope and you can ask Christ to forgive you of your

sins and He will forgive you and in Him is the hope of

Heaven. >Amen! I appreciate that guys.

It's called "The Pretribulation Prophecies"

and they have worked on it very very hard. You need

to understand the things. I'm Gary Stearman. Hey, you keep

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