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Let me help you.
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Oh, I can get it. J-Just show me.
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This one's been acting up all day.
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- Then you shouldn't let people use it.
- You gotta really get in there.
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Poetry, huh?
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You really need to put
an "Out of Order" sign on it.
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This is only half.
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All right. Well, take the original.
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I need the other half.
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- The Xerox guy's gonna have to clear it.
- Then call one.
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That's my property.
I'm not leaving without it.
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The bodies were dismembered,
stuffed in trash bags,
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and spent between two and six weeks
in the Hudson River.
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None of the six victims
was ever identified.
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Cause of death never determined.
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Police were able to trace,
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uh, the articles of clothing
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to a fetish shop on Christopher Street
that catered to the leather community.
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And there's the Lambda tattoo.
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Maybe he was a Greek scholar.
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Paul Bateson frequented the gay bars
in the Meatpacking District,
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but police could never connect him
to the bodies.
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He was only convicted for one murder
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because he called a journalist
and confessed to it.
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The final victim, Addison Verrill.
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Who was not dismembered
and stuffed in a bag,
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so why should we talk to this guy
if we don't even know he did these?
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Because he told a friend
he was the Bag Murderer.
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And that he liked to kill.
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Isn't someone who practices S&M
already equating arousal with violence?
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- He's just a step...
- S/M.
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The correct terminology is S/M.
Sadomasochism.
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Not "sado and masochism."
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S/M is primarily the exchange of power
between a dominant and a submissive.
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Pain and violence are just two types
of currency within that exchange.
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There's also humiliation, fear,
sometimes even tickling.
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Tickled to death? Whole new meaning.
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The fact that one of the victims
wore a dog collar
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makes me think our guy
likes to be in charge.
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Well, due to the condition of the bodies,
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we have no evidence of how he killed
or whether S/M was even one of his MOs.
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Who else would prey on guys like these?
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They were into the same stuff,
and he gets off on going too far.
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Well, this isn't just a case
of someone who occasionally
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crossed the line of consent.
This is a practiced, organized killer.
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Dismembering and disposing
of the bodies without witnesses?
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I mean, that takes planning
and commitment.
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Well, there's no denying
his victim pool
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is specific to what gives him
sexual pleasure.
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- But they're low-hanging fruit for him.
- I'll say.
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He's accepted in their environment,
and he knows how to lure them.
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They actually want to be tied up.
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So you're saying his victim selection
is about opportunity.
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I'm just saying
that it would be interesting
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to find out how essential
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his sexual practices were
to how he killed.
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And why.
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You know, was sadomasochism...
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just a convenient way
for Bateson to find his victims,
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- or was it fundamental to his...
- That's Atlanta.
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It's the police commissioner.
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As Jackson said, we would like to applaud
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the decision made
by the Department of Justice
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to open an FBI investigation
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into Atlanta's missing
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and murdered children.
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Director Webster has assured me
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that the bureau will coordinate
with our own task force
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and make their abundant resources
available to our city.
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We've already been to Atlanta once.
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We've done the background work.
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The vice president's placing
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the highest priority on this.
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I don't want us to look like we're running
a research project down there.
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Absolutely not.
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We're there to get convictions.
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All right, Ted. I'll call Wyman,
tell him we're sending the BSU
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instead of that third canine unit
he wants.
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They better be house-trained.
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And on a short leash. You have my word.
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That was...
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Director Webster.
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The president doesn't want child murder
lingering over his first 100 days,
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so he's throwing George Bush at this.
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The director wants to be sure
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the bureau comes out smelling good
to this administration.
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And it came down to us or Lassie.
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Essentially.
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Holden, I'd like you there
as soon as possible. Bill,
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you can fly out Monday,
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right after the directors' retreat.
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Webster's going out on a limb.
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He needs to understand who we are,
have assurance in what we can do.
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Yes, sir.
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We're budgeted through the end,
so pack accordingly.
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They're following 17 cases.
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That could be a while.
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If Webster's involved,
he's going for closure.
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We want to be part of that.
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Go do what you do, but as we've learned,
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our methods are not always
gonna be received
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with unbridled enthusiasm, so...
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Play nice.
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Play smart.
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Bill.
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We will be okay.
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Yes, sir.
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How are we supposed
to fulfill Gunn's expansive vision
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if he keeps sending you away?
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This time it comes from the very top.
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Well, I can select support staff,
but I can't recruit and train agents.
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I need to be back in town every Friday
for some things with Brian.
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I'll spend the afternoon here,
do what I can.
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You and Gregg take Bateson.
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Keep the interviews going.
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You're going to leave Holden alone
three days a week?
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He's down there on his own
till Monday as it is.
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Gunn wants me at the directors' retreat.
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I mean, last time he managed
to get you tossed out,
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and you were with him.
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I'll call Jim Barney.
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Ask him to be Holden's wingman
till I get there.
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It's three days.
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Exactly.
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Nance?
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Back here! Jeez.
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Want some dinner?
There's spaghetti and one chicken leg.
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No, I'm bushed.
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How's Bri?
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He's fine.
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How was your day?
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Super.
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How super?
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It was fine. Um, hand me that bag.
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Thanks.
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Is it that bad?
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Three times this week.
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If he wets again tonight,
I'm throwing them out.
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I got cheapies.
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- Jesus. Brian hasn't wet the bed for...
- Three years and five months.
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Believe me, I remember.
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Today I found him playing
with his baby toys.
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Three Men in a Tub.
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It's like he's going backwards.
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Just when he was getting
some independence.
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Suddenly, I'm potty training again.
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Let's talk to Dr. Moritz tomorrow.
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- Maybe it's part of the process.
- Oh, I haven't packed you yet.
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But your suit's back from the cleaners.
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It's okay. I'll pack.
Don't worry about it.
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Oh, have you spoken to Gunn today?
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Bill, you need to take time off.
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Brian needs you. I need help with him.
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Honey, I just found out today:
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after the retreat,
I have to go to Atlanta.
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We've opened an investigation
into the murders there.
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I don't have a choice.
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Okay.
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Look, I'm coming home every Thursday night
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for the Friday appointments.
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I'll stay all weekend.
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- Every week.
- I said okay.
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You say there's nothing you can do, so...
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the decision's been made.
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My biggest complaint
is I can't get to the Joffrey.
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But prison dried me out.
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I was draining two bottles of vodka a day
till I lost my job.
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You were a radiology technician.
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Until I was an usher in a porn theater.
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Now I'm sober, work out every day.
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And mostly they leave me unsupervised.
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Actually, I'd appreciate
a little more discipline.
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How did you meet Addison Verrill?
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Sitting at the bar at The Anvil.
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We were doing poppers.
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Started talking porn.
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He knew them all.
Appreciated the good ones.
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Good ones?
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Anybody can roll a camera
on a piece of muscle
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plowing some bottom raw.
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I can catch that live at The Tunnel.
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But there's an art
to letting things happen
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in the right rhythm.
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Finding that bond in violence.
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You watch any porn?
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Bonding in violence.
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Is that how you prefer
to relate to people?
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On a deeper level, probably.
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- Love is violence. Sex is violence.
- Is it?
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Every interaction is violence,
it's just a matter of scale.
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How much of something do we want to feel?
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Does it feel good
when your lover takes your hand
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and you didn't expect it?
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Does it feel better
when he grabs your nipples?
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Twists them?
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What did Addison think about violence?
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Full into it.
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The films he liked, the things he said.
I could tell.
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Is that why you picked him?
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- No, we pick each other, don't we?
- But he was your type.
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No, not really.
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Usually, I don't like swishes.
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They give us all a bad name.
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Addison was holding court at the bar.
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He could've left with anyone,
but he stuck with me.
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That was nice.
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When you went back to his apartment,
had you already decided to kill him?
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No.
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We smoked some weed.
Drank some of his Scotch.
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Had lots of sex.
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He liked it rough.
That's how they knew it was me.
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When I called that reporter,
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I told him the couch
and rug were covered in Crisco.
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Police hadn't figured out what it was.
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What happened after?
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I hadn't come down yet.
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He asked me if I wanted a joint.
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I hit him with a skillet,
and then I stabbed him.
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Was that the natural conclusion
of an arousal experience for you?
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The "rough" sex that you had,
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did it build in intensity?
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- Was...
- Sure.
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You always wanna have somewhere to go.
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Pain is the release.
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The fear...
that's what you want to play with.
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So, was killing Addison
an extension of the sexual violence?
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No, we were done.
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Wore ourselves out.
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You can only go for so long.
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Then why did you kill him?
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It... It wasn't a...
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soul act for him.
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I was looking for real connection.
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Was The Anvil
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a place that you had found
a real connection before?
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No.
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But there's always that moment...
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where something might turn
into the real thing.
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It just didn't.
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That's what we're all looking for.
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Connection.
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When you went out,
were you a dominant or a submissive?
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- Those days, I was a total top.
- Those days?
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I started off as a bottom. Most do.
That's... how you learn what to do.
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What a bottom wants to feel.
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How far you can go.
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So you were practiced at finding
that moment when things could turn...
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into nothing or into connection,
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or perhaps into deeper violence.
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The Bag Murders,
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six leathermen dumped in the Hudson
in garbage bags.
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Do you think that the person
who killed those men
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could've been experimenting?
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Seeing how it felt to go too far?
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They keep trying to get me for those.
256
00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:21,211
Gay guy into leather.
257
00:15:21,795 --> 00:15:24,173
- So imaginative.
- It's more than that.
258
00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:27,801
You also worked in a hospital.
You had some training in anatomy,
259
00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:29,637
access to medical instruments.
260
00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,600
I wasn't squeamish
if that's what you're asking.
261
00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,767
- But I wasn't a surgeon.
- You did confess to a friend.
262
00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:37,519
You... actually told him, verbatim,
263
00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:40,022
"I like to kill."
264
00:15:40,189 --> 00:15:41,482
Ugh. God...
265
00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:44,568
We were all so fucked up at the time.
266
00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:50,115
The cops actually said if I confess,
I would do less time on a plea deal.
267
00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,284
- Less time?
- Crazy, right?
268
00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:54,453
They just want to say
they closed the books.
269
00:15:54,536 --> 00:15:55,663
Keep the queens happy.
270
00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:56,664
But I got news:
271
00:15:56,747 --> 00:16:00,042
the queens want this to be
some uptight straight guy.
272
00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:01,961
Why would they care who it is?
273
00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,546
Perceptions matter
when you're an "aberration," Anita.
274
00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:10,761
We can't be seen as eating our own.
275
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:13,639
Do you think it was an angry straight guy?
276
00:16:15,182 --> 00:16:17,601
Leathermen can smell a straight guy
a mile away.
277
00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:19,520
No one would go anywhere with him.
278
00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:21,748
Clubbers are looking for guys
who know what they're doing.
279
00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:23,732
So the killer would be experienced.
280
00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:25,526
He'd be cruising for the guy...
281
00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:28,195
that wants exactly what he wants to give.
282
00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:32,282
He's watched a thousand guys,
gone home with hundreds.
283
00:16:32,783 --> 00:16:35,536
Feeling for the right pulse,
the right quickening of breath.
284
00:16:37,287 --> 00:16:40,791
He's looking for the guy
that just wants it.
285
00:16:40,874 --> 00:16:42,042
Nobody wants to die.
286
00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:45,713
No, but some want to feel
what it's like to almost die.
287
00:16:47,464 --> 00:16:49,216
They let you go just a bit further.
288
00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:52,636
Might even beg you.
289
00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:54,513
And that would excite him?
290
00:16:54,972 --> 00:16:56,056
Of course.
291
00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:59,768
So he would know the victims,
may have been with them intimately before.
292
00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,812
Why waste time on an unknown?
293
00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:04,523
And then what would he do?
294
00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:07,191
And then...
295
00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:10,529
he works 'em.
296
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:13,406
Hard.
297
00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:16,410
Until there's a connection.
298
00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,245
What sort of connection?
299
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,251
Well, that's the mystery.
300
00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:27,212
It's trust with fear.
301
00:17:27,671 --> 00:17:28,964
Complete vulnerability.
302
00:17:29,506 --> 00:17:32,301
He lets the master take him
just across that line.
303
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:33,885
How?
304
00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:37,514
How would he kill him?
305
00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:39,933
How long would he take?
What would he use?
306
00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:41,560
What marks would he leave?
307
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:46,291
Everyone in the scene's
into their own thing.
308
00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:48,567
You'd have to ask him. Alan.
309
00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,569
- Yeah.
- I'm ready.
310
00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,341
All right. Let's move him out.
311
00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,455
Only your killer would know that.
312
00:18:35,989 --> 00:18:37,366
Good morning.
313
00:18:58,846 --> 00:18:59,846
Holden.
314
00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:01,472
Jim!
315
00:19:01,682 --> 00:19:02,766
This has grown.
316
00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:04,619
Looks like they've narrowed it down
to half the city.
317
00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:07,604
They're all over the map on this.
Smells like desperation.
318
00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:10,232
We got a real lead last night.
You should hear it.
319
00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:13,461
A whole generation of Negro wiped out
320
00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:15,279
with each one of these dead kids.
321
00:19:15,362 --> 00:19:17,990
You'll find the last one
in the woods by Sigman Road.
322
00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:20,701
And you can count on another one
every month from now on.
323
00:19:20,784 --> 00:19:21,803
Sir, can you give me
324
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,745
the exact location of...
325
00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:25,247
Sir? Sir?
326
00:19:31,128 --> 00:19:32,296
I can't say.
327
00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:34,756
They all sound the same to me.
328
00:19:35,757 --> 00:19:36,675
Just meanness.
329
00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:38,510
Sorry to make you listen to that.
330
00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:39,720
Thank you, Beverly.
331
00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:46,393
Y'all still looking for my Earl?
332
00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,563
He'd be 11 now. Might be taller.
333
00:19:49,646 --> 00:19:50,480
Yes ma'am.
334
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:52,357
You can be sure we're lookin'.
335
00:20:00,157 --> 00:20:01,575
Call came in last night.
336
00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:05,662
Staked out a three-mile stretch
of Sigman Road overnight...
337
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:06,747
nothin'.
338
00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,250
First light, put in search teams
on the ground and in the air.
339
00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:13,045
We have agents questioning
known Klan members in the area.
340
00:20:13,128 --> 00:20:15,088
We'll find the body, but,
uh, Jim here says
341
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,257
you might be able to help us
find the caller.
342
00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,444
- You won't find a body.
- Oh, I'll find it.
343
00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:22,095
Got 250 searchers working grids,
canine units.
344
00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:24,097
There is no body. He's not your man.
345
00:20:25,682 --> 00:20:27,684
- Excuse me?
- It might be the same caller
346
00:20:27,768 --> 00:20:30,088
as the Terrell case,
but he's not your killer. It's a hoax.
347
00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,650
You can tell me that
by listening to a tape once?
348
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,944
Same tape we've been listening to
since midnight?
349
00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:38,027
Think about it.
350
00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:41,949
The entire purpose of organizations
like the Klan is to sow terror.
351
00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:44,576
Why would they wait
until number 18 to claim responsibility?
352
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:47,746
Young man, I've been dealing
with the Klan my whole life.
353
00:20:47,829 --> 00:20:50,749
Sometimes their only purpose
is to kill whatever black person
354
00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:52,251
they can get their hands on.
355
00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:53,794
I have no good reason to doubt this
356
00:20:53,877 --> 00:20:55,597
just because it's not
what you want to hear.
357
00:20:55,671 --> 00:20:57,751
But then why call the police,
not the press?
358
00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:01,301
We've learned from Berkowitz,
the Zodiac... they want a story.
359
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,303
Lasting mythology.
360
00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,681
To find that,
they go straight to the press.
361
00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,392
It makes the police look like
they're the last to know.
362
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,229
That sounds like a grand theory,
Agent Ford.
363
00:21:12,312 --> 00:21:13,981
Like you put a lot of thought into it
364
00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:15,857
in the two minutes
we've been standing here.
365
00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:19,027
But I'm operating on the actual fact
that five days ago...
366
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:21,989
Lubie Geter, number 18,
367
00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:25,617
was dropped off at a mall parking lot
to sell car deodorizers.
368
00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:27,119
He never came home.
369
00:21:27,494 --> 00:21:29,371
His mama calls me twice a day.
370
00:21:31,498 --> 00:21:33,959
Besides him,
I got four other boys still missing...
371
00:21:34,459 --> 00:21:39,256
numbers six, eight, twelve, and fourteen,
in case you don't wanna remember names.
372
00:21:39,339 --> 00:21:41,717
And this call is the only lead we got.
373
00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:43,217
Are you coming?
374
00:21:58,692 --> 00:21:59,692
Brian...
375
00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:03,030
can you tell me
why you took the boys to the house?
376
00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,414
Was it because the baby was crying?
377
00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:16,293
Did you think you could make him
feel better in the house?
378
00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:21,131
It's okay, Bri.
379
00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:22,734
You can talk to the doc...
380
00:22:29,973 --> 00:22:32,309
Do you remember the boys holding the baby?
381
00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:40,025
Did you think
they were trying to help him?
382
00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:43,278
To make him stop crying?
383
00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,584
It's best for them to know
no one will answer for them.
384
00:22:57,876 --> 00:22:58,876
I understand.
385
00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:01,755
Is it necessary
to make him remember everything?
386
00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:04,424
Well, it may be uncomfortable for us,
387
00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,760
but it allows him
to relate to his feelings
388
00:23:06,843 --> 00:23:08,345
in an accepting environment.
389
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,393
His teacher says
Brian isn't participating in class
390
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:16,395
and has no interaction with his peers.
391
00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:20,107
- You spoke with Brian's teacher?
- Miss Leland did a class visit.
392
00:23:20,357 --> 00:23:22,442
- What she observed...
- Excuse me.
393
00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:24,528
She was in his class?
394
00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,198
Caseworkers have no obligation
to inform you of school visits.
395
00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:38,875
Have you noticed changes in his behavior?
396
00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,338
Brian has started wetting his bed again...
397
00:23:43,797 --> 00:23:44,797
on occasion.
398
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,049
Almost every other night.
399
00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:49,052
Even one event tells us a lot
about a patient's progress.
400
00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:50,262
Like what?
401
00:23:50,929 --> 00:23:52,013
What does it tell us?
402
00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:54,933
- Well, secondary enuresis is most...
- Secondary what?
403
00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:56,810
Uh, enuresis. Uh...
404
00:23:57,018 --> 00:23:59,479
Bed-wetting subsequent
to successful toilet training.
405
00:24:00,021 --> 00:24:02,524
The most common cause
is psychological trauma.
406
00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,110
He's sleeping with his baby toys,
407
00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:07,821
things he hasn't touched in years.
408
00:24:08,238 --> 00:24:12,033
Emotional regression can also be a marker
for processing extreme distress.
409
00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:15,745
- Is there anything else?
- He's been sucking his thumb.
410
00:24:21,501 --> 00:24:24,588
I'm prescribing a low dose
of desmopressin for the bed-wetting.
411
00:24:24,671 --> 00:24:25,839
You want him to take a pill?
412
00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:27,602
It's important
he doesn't develop behaviors
413
00:24:27,674 --> 00:24:29,968
that place him
in a regressed emotional state.
414
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,264
And you need to set limits.
415
00:24:34,723 --> 00:24:35,599
If he wets the bed,
416
00:24:35,682 --> 00:24:37,402
make him responsible
for washing the sheets.
417
00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:39,144
Isn't he gonna think
we're punishing him?
418
00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:41,563
Well, you're helping him
to deal with what he experienced
419
00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:42,772
instead of displacing it.
420
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,483
Brian never mentions it.
421
00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:47,360
The other day we drove by the house
where it happened.
422
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:50,447
He watched it go by, and he blurted out,
"I want pancakes."
423
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:54,284
Is trauma really what's causing him
to wet the bed?
424
00:24:54,367 --> 00:24:57,871
Isn't it possible that making him come
to a doctor's office once a week,
425
00:24:58,413 --> 00:25:01,291
having some woman show up
at his school and stare at him,
426
00:25:01,374 --> 00:25:02,792
- giving him pills...
- Nance.
427
00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:06,087
...isn't it possible that those things
are making him regress?
428
00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,715
He's reminded every day
that he's not normal.
429
00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:13,595
If he was at home,
doing the things he used to do...
430
00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:16,264
Kids get over stuff. They forget.
431
00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:17,474
Mrs. Tench,
432
00:25:18,808 --> 00:25:21,895
children do not simply forget trauma.
433
00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:24,523
No one simply forgets.
434
00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:47,337
Let me get that for you, sir.
435
00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:51,007
- Hey, thanks.
- A pleasure, sir.
436
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:03,186
- I'm with the bureau retreat.
- Yes, sir.
437
00:26:03,979 --> 00:26:06,940
Bill. You're just getting here?
438
00:26:07,607 --> 00:26:08,607
Cutting it close.
439
00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:11,653
I wanted to clear off my desk
before leaving town, sir.
440
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:14,239
The judge's plane took off late,
so you get a little reprieve.
441
00:26:14,322 --> 00:26:15,365
The judge?
442
00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:17,768
Director Webster was a judge
before his appointment.
443
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:21,830
He prefers his judicial title, which,
in rules of protocol, takes precedence.
444
00:26:22,747 --> 00:26:24,916
He is a man who appreciates pecking order.
445
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Good to know.
446
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,129
The judge's advance.
Gentlemen, how long?
447
00:26:29,212 --> 00:26:30,505
Pulling in now, sir.
448
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,024
- There you are.
- Thank you.
449
00:26:32,048 --> 00:26:33,216
It's good to be king.
450
00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:34,759
Yes, it is.
451
00:26:35,802 --> 00:26:38,597
The schedule has you in for an hour,
but keep it to 40 minutes.
452
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,599
And... maybe lose the jacket and tie.
453
00:26:41,182 --> 00:26:43,018
These retreat symposia
are 90 percent retreat,
454
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,352
ten percent symposia.
455
00:26:45,228 --> 00:26:46,605
I'll buy you a little time.
456
00:26:47,063 --> 00:26:49,691
- Judge.
- Ted, great to see you.
457
00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:53,203
- You already got a round in.
- And Wyman owes us all a drink.
458
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,573
- We'll cut you in.
- Mm, okay, then. Gentlemen.
459
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:05,789
Brian.
460
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,588
Brian, your sandwich is ready.
461
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:30,189
Brian?
462
00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:41,076
Brian?
463
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:50,335
Brian!
464
00:27:57,384 --> 00:27:58,384
Brian!
465
00:28:04,307 --> 00:28:05,307
Adele!
466
00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,477
Have you seen Brian?
467
00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:18,112
Brian?
468
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:21,699
Brian!
469
00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:27,622
Did you hear me calling you?
470
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,717
Go on, honey.
471
00:28:39,342 --> 00:28:40,343
Go on.
472
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,387
You can go play with her.
473
00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:45,055
Come on, Paige.
474
00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:47,142
It's time to go.
475
00:28:49,602 --> 00:28:53,189
Come on, honey. Grandma's waiting for us.
476
00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:03,158
Brian, we don't stare. Remember?
477
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:04,241
It's impolite.
478
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:06,828
Look at me.
479
00:29:08,663 --> 00:29:10,290
I need you to come home...
480
00:29:10,874 --> 00:29:11,875
so we can...
481
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:43,948
- Delta Sector, report.
- Chief Redding, I feel like we...
482
00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:45,867
Delta Sector report negative.
483
00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:48,381
...sector report negative.
484
00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:52,415
Sir, chopper needs to refuel.
He suggests suspending for the night.
485
00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,962
All sectors, all sectors, suspend.
486
00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,673
- Y'all start coming on in.
- Copy that.
487
00:30:01,174 --> 00:30:02,693
- No body.
- Come on, bring it in, guys!
488
00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:04,153
- That what you wanted to hear?
- Let's go!
489
00:30:04,177 --> 00:30:06,012
No, sir. It's not.
490
00:30:06,095 --> 00:30:07,764
It's bad if you don't find one.
491
00:30:08,723 --> 00:30:09,933
Worse if you do.
492
00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:11,976
I wanted to say,
I feel like we started off wrong.
493
00:30:12,018 --> 00:30:15,188
- You could say that.
- I only meant we don't wanna waste our...
494
00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:17,941
your resources on every tip.
495
00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,443
Over the past year,
I've pulled children's bodies
496
00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:23,446
out of creek beds, woods,
vacant buildings.
497
00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,257
Chief,
we'll be opening the road here
498
00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,367
- as things clear out.
- Roger.
499
00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:29,828
We have thousands of acres
of untended property.
500
00:30:30,453 --> 00:30:32,705
When we get any lead
that narrows it to one road,
501
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:34,415
I have no choice but to take it.
502
00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:36,859
We've learned things
about how these types of killers think.
503
00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:38,211
We can anticipate them,
504
00:30:38,294 --> 00:30:40,713
focus on their next move
instead of just reacting.
505
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,324
We have a meeting Monday morning
with all the jurisdictions.
506
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:45,927
You have a way to narrow things down,
happy to hear it.
507
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,887
Now I have to go brief the mayor.
508
00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,806
Shit.
509
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:51,266
Stay back!
510
00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:55,270
Chief Redding! Chief Redding,
has there been another body found?
511
00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:57,873
- Did the FBI initiate this search?
- We heard about a phone call.
512
00:30:57,897 --> 00:30:59,315
Did you find a body?
513
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:01,401
I have no statement
at this time.
514
00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:03,838
Was there a body found?
515
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,381
Did the FBI call for this search?
516
00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:08,449
Will the FBI work with APD,
or are you running your own investigation?
517
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:11,536
Any leads? Any suspects?
518
00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:12,871
Any more leads?
519
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:18,918
It's a local case, Ted.
It's gotten national attention.
520
00:31:19,002 --> 00:31:22,338
The bureau responding to this
is like a tail wagging the dog.
521
00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,382
Agent Tench,
522
00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:28,428
you're going down there.
What can your unit bring to this case?
523
00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:31,472
Well, sir,
we'll be looking for connections.
524
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:33,987
We think some of these cases
may be linked.
525
00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,120
Sir, the work these guys are doing
is groundbreaking.
526
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,562
They've interviewed Manson.
527
00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:39,856
Manson's crazier than a shithouse rat.
528
00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:43,818
Can we really learn
from someone like him, Agent?
529
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,070
We've also interviewed
more cogent subjects.
530
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,196
Such as?
531
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,364
Ed Kemper.
532
00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:49,657
The Co-ed Killer.
533
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:52,201
- Beheaded ten college girls.
- Well, six actually.
534
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:53,494
But he did kill ten people.
535
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:54,704
What was he like?
536
00:31:55,204 --> 00:31:56,247
To talk to?
537
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,334
Well, he's 6'9".
538
00:31:59,417 --> 00:32:00,335
Oh!
539
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:01,979
So he could be a little intimidating
540
00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:03,880
to sit across from with no guard,
541
00:32:03,963 --> 00:32:05,340
no sidearm, no cuffs.
542
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,092
But you have to develop a level of trust.
543
00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:10,296
One day, we brought a pizza in
and had lunch with him.
544
00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,430
We're dividing slices
while he's telling us
545
00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:14,724
how hard it is to sever a head.
546
00:32:16,225 --> 00:32:19,187
And this guy has hands
like catcher's mitts,
547
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,439
and he's sitting three feet away.
548
00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:22,898
How did he do it?
549
00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:24,399
How did he kill 'em?
550
00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:26,152
He picked up hitchhikers,
551
00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:27,904
drove them to a wooded area,
552
00:32:28,529 --> 00:32:30,114
and then stabbed and strangled them.
553
00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:32,659
Then he raped 'em
and cut off their heads.
554
00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:34,494
And then he raped the heads.
555
00:32:36,579 --> 00:32:37,997
Why decapitation?
556
00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:39,666
He collected them...
557
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:41,625
as trophies.
558
00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:44,545
Kemper was the first to make us see
559
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:48,341
these killers develop
a sickening personal signature.
560
00:32:48,424 --> 00:32:52,387
And we're learning these offenders
start having fantasies very young.
561
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:55,723
They practice: dolls, animals.
That escalates.
562
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,167
I dealt with my share
of criminals from the bench.
563
00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,812
Most of them were bad from the start,
even as kids:
564
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,605
runaways, loners.
565
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:03,690
They never fit in.
566
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,526
I always said when I had a juvenile
I knew was bad,
567
00:33:06,609 --> 00:33:08,236
I wish I could put him away for life.
568
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:10,697
You could just see it
569
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:11,823
in their eyes.
570
00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:14,908
Gentlemen,
571
00:33:15,702 --> 00:33:18,162
they keep a well-stocked humidor
behind the bar
572
00:33:18,246 --> 00:33:19,706
that I turned a blind eye to.
573
00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,000
Shall we?
574
00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:41,811
- Hello?
- Hey, it's me.
575
00:33:41,894 --> 00:33:44,522
It's late. What time is it?
576
00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:45,732
It's almost 10:00.
577
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,735
I just called to check in on you.
How's Brian?
578
00:33:49,235 --> 00:33:50,235
Fine.
579
00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:52,237
Now.
580
00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:54,073
What do you mean, "now"?
581
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:57,452
He got out. I... I couldn't find him.
582
00:33:57,744 --> 00:33:58,578
Got out?
583
00:33:58,661 --> 00:34:01,789
I went door to door.
584
00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,792
Finally found him in the park.
585
00:34:06,085 --> 00:34:08,588
He was staring at this child. Just...
586
00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,799
staring.
587
00:34:15,094 --> 00:34:16,304
But he scared me.
588
00:34:17,388 --> 00:34:19,015
What do you want me to do, Nance?
589
00:34:19,098 --> 00:34:20,099
Nothing.
590
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:22,560
Everything's done.
591
00:34:23,352 --> 00:34:24,937
I just... wanted to tell you.
592
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,482
Honey, I don't know what to say.
593
00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:31,069
How about,
"I'm gonna take time off to help"?
594
00:34:32,528 --> 00:34:34,447
You know I can't do that right now.
595
00:34:34,655 --> 00:34:35,655
I know.
596
00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:37,200
You have to work.
597
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:38,785
I just...
598
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:42,538
honestly don't know
if I can do this alone, Bill.
599
00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:43,915
You're not alone.
600
00:34:45,291 --> 00:34:46,417
I have to go to sleep.
601
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,724
Hey, sit down.
602
00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:03,559
- Whiskey, please.
- Sure thing.
603
00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:05,394
I still want to hear about Manson.
604
00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,232
Make it a double.
605
00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:14,695
"Do you find yourself getting so lost
in your own thoughts
606
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:17,615
that you ignore
and forget your surroundings?
607
00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:19,117
All the time.
608
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,409
Some of the time.
609
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:21,536
Occasionally.
610
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:22,662
Never."
611
00:35:24,163 --> 00:35:25,206
- Wen.
- Huh?
612
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:28,459
Should I answer for you?
I think I have a good shot at this one.
613
00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:33,047
- Where'd you get that?
- Found it on a bus.
614
00:35:33,172 --> 00:35:34,841
- Ew.
- Come on, it'll be fun.
615
00:35:35,174 --> 00:35:36,634
I'm gonna mark that one as...
616
00:35:37,176 --> 00:35:38,386
"some of the time."
617
00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:42,306
Uh...
"Is it difficult to get you excited?"
618
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:44,350
Oh, you should probably answer that one.
619
00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:46,495
Come on, you have to take this seriously,
or the results won't be accurate.
620
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,313
I find it kind of difficult
to take a Myers-Briggs test seriously,
621
00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:52,024
especially one that has a panty liner ad
on the back of it.
622
00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:54,235
I should just focus on this.
623
00:35:54,318 --> 00:35:55,921
Come on.
There's only a couple left.
624
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,656
"Do you find yourself
initiating conversations?"
625
00:35:58,739 --> 00:35:59,991
- Yes.
- Really?
626
00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:02,326
Yeah. I initiated conversation with you.
627
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:03,744
Because you wanted to fuck me.
628
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:05,830
I initiate conversations all day.
629
00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:07,999
Oh, an interview's not a conversation.
630
00:36:08,082 --> 00:36:10,960
You know, whose test is this?
Yours or mine?
631
00:36:11,043 --> 00:36:12,795
I'm just trying to get to know you.
632
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,149
It feels a little like you're trying
to get to correct me.
633
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,342
Well, would you rather tell me
about whatever it is
634
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:20,094
that you're burying your face in?
635
00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:23,848
I'm sorry, ask me another one.
636
00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,141
No.
637
00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,226
Come on.
638
00:36:29,437 --> 00:36:30,797
Tell me about what you're reading.
639
00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:33,566
It's the, uh...
It's the Bateson interview.
640
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,943
- Okay.
- Mm.
641
00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:41,908
It's just a fine line of giving them
enough attention
642
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:43,284
so that they'll engage with you,
643
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,536
but also being able
to steer the conversation.
644
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,456
And when it's over
in just a few minutes, it...
645
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:49,624
Wasn't worth the effort?
646
00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:51,627
He was surprisingly forthcoming
in the beginning.
647
00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:54,545
He answered every question,
even volunteered information.
648
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,673
But when I got to the questions
I really wanted to ask,
649
00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,050
he just walked out.
650
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,509
So he rope-a-doped you?
651
00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:03,363
- I don't know what that means.
- Rumble in the Jungle?
652
00:37:03,387 --> 00:37:05,806
You know, when Ali
let George Foreman punch himself out.
653
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,392
Yeah. Sure, he, uh,
"rope-a-doped" me.
654
00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:12,730
Oh, I'm sure he had plenty of practice
leading people down the garden path.
655
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:14,815
No, I should have seen it coming.
656
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,567
I mean, I've been studying manipulators
657
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:18,319
- my whole career.
- Oh.
658
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:20,570
On paper.
659
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:31,225
No, I'm... I'm just saying
that you... you don't have to be an expert
660
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,084
at everything the first time.
661
00:37:34,543 --> 00:37:35,543
Huh.
662
00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:37,838
It's just a bit disappointing.
663
00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:45,638
Another sad chapter
in the epidemic of child murders
664
00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:47,640
unfolded today in Rockdale County
665
00:37:47,723 --> 00:37:51,352
where the FBI conducted
an unsuccessful search along Sigman Road.
666
00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:53,938
Channel 2
has been unable to confirm reports
667
00:37:54,021 --> 00:37:57,191
that a man called in a tip
about where a body could be found.
668
00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,610
The FBI and police had no comment.
669
00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:03,739
Meanwhile, the search
for 14-year-old Lubie Geter continues.
670
00:38:04,323 --> 00:38:05,700
That's it for us tonight.
671
00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:07,034
It's 10:30.
672
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,995
Do you know where your children are?
673
00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:16,752
I always want you present
in the local room
674
00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:19,797
where my reporters and Mr. Wallace Cook
675
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,217
can drink you in constantly
676
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,386
as a warning against fakes!
677
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,277
Agent Ford.
678
00:38:43,738 --> 00:38:44,738
Tanya.
679
00:38:45,573 --> 00:38:47,408
Hi.
680
00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:51,704
I thought that was you.
I saw you'd checked in,
681
00:38:51,787 --> 00:38:53,205
for a while it looks like.
682
00:38:53,372 --> 00:38:54,415
Until it's over.
683
00:38:55,916 --> 00:38:57,335
I was expecting you sooner.
684
00:38:57,418 --> 00:39:00,046
I came the moment they opened
an official FBI investigation.
685
00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:03,299
And...
686
00:39:04,383 --> 00:39:06,783
you should know we've moved
beyond looking into the families.
687
00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:11,599
I came down specifically
to refocus the APD's efforts.
688
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,310
I saw on the news
someone called about a body.
689
00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:15,935
He a suspect?
690
00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:18,356
I can't say officially, but...
691
00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:21,650
A man calls to tell you he did it,
you may want to consider him.
692
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,655
I'm not at liberty
to discuss details, but...
693
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:31,410
my unit is here to focus on
694
00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:35,373
- what we consider most probable.
- Most probable for each child?
695
00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,308
They all got different things going on.
696
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,711
Some of them hustling jobs here and there.
Carrying groceries, running errands.
697
00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:42,981
A few of them
might've gotten themselves into situations
698
00:39:43,005 --> 00:39:45,257
- they didn't know were dangerous.
- What does that mean?
699
00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,636
You looking at where these kids work?
Parking lots, drive-throughs?
700
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,970
I'm sure we will.
701
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,809
Our most recent was seen
selling car deodorizers outside a mall.
702
00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:56,394
Lubie Geter.
703
00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:57,561
Right.
704
00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:59,605
Not all of 'em have
car deodorizers to sell.
705
00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:01,065
They do whatever they can.
706
00:40:01,148 --> 00:40:02,358
What do you mean? Drugs?
707
00:40:02,441 --> 00:40:04,360
There's drugs, panhandling.
708
00:40:04,443 --> 00:40:07,405
Some kids learn to steal little things
and sell them.
709
00:40:08,614 --> 00:40:11,033
Folks have been saying
that a few of these boys
710
00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:12,743
could be selling themselves.
711
00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:14,870
These kids are 11, 12.
712
00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:17,206
Every kid is told
to watch out for strangers.
713
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,836
Most have no idea
how dangerous some strangers can be.
714
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:24,964
All I'm sayin' is...
715
00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:27,216
...you all should be looking
at those people too.
716
00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:33,764
This is the Omni. Tanya speaking.
How may I help you?
717
00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:38,227
Absolutely. One moment.
718
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,787
- Morning.
- Good morning.
719
00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:26,335
What do you know about child prostitution
in Atlanta?
720
00:42:26,418 --> 00:42:27,836
I know it goes on.
721
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,213
The same as any big city.
722
00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:32,466
It's not something I've dealt with,
723
00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:34,593
but I can ask Atlanta PD.
724
00:42:35,886 --> 00:42:36,720
Why?
725
00:42:36,804 --> 00:42:39,890
I need files on known pedophiles
in the greater Atlanta area.
726
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:42,309
Sure. We can look into that.
727
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,606
It looks like greater Atlanta
just walked in.
728
00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:50,401
Gonna be interesting
to see how they take to us.
729
00:42:50,484 --> 00:42:52,486
There's no reason
for them not to want our help.
730
00:42:54,029 --> 00:42:55,029
Bill!
731
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,574
Hey!
732
00:42:58,409 --> 00:42:59,410
Good to see ya.
733
00:42:59,493 --> 00:43:00,493
Welcome, Bill.
734
00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:01,536
This is us.
735
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:04,123
Sorry to miss first day of school.
736
00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:06,125
What are we starting with?
737
00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:09,295
We're about to walk into a meeting
with the county chiefs.
738
00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:12,172
Chief Redding wants our advice
on how to focus the investigation.
739
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:13,590
Sounds good.
740
00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:19,722
For instance, David Berkowitz, Son of Sam,
741
00:43:19,805 --> 00:43:20,889
told us he was compelled
742
00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:24,018
to go back to a specific site
where he had killed before.
743
00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:25,894
To physically relive the experience.
744
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,063
You interviewed Son of Sam?
745
00:43:28,147 --> 00:43:29,147
We did.
746
00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:32,484
So the theory is,
instead of trying to cover all of Atlanta,
747
00:43:32,568 --> 00:43:35,362
we concentrate on where we believe
the killer may return.
748
00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:38,949
We'll deploy teams to canvass
previous abduction and dump sites,
749
00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:41,827
narrowing our scope
to these higher probability areas.
750
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:43,871
Go back over all the ground
we've already covered?
751
00:43:43,954 --> 00:43:46,182
Neighbors may have seen someone
returning to a scene.
752
00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:47,708
Maybe something was moved or left.
753
00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:49,335
Y'all are assuming it's one suspect.
754
00:43:49,418 --> 00:43:51,795
We got 18 cases
spread all over kingdom come.
755
00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:55,132
So many murders in the same age
and socioeconomic range
756
00:43:55,215 --> 00:43:57,593
is highly improbable
without at least some being linked.
757
00:43:57,676 --> 00:43:59,386
That how we're gonna proceed, Chief?
758
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,390
Seems like we're ignoring
a lot of possibilities.
759
00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:03,515
Nobody's saying rule anybody out.
760
00:44:04,767 --> 00:44:06,352
But let's focus our manpower.
761
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:10,356
Chief, this kind of focus means
recanvassing 18 abduction and dump sites,
762
00:44:10,439 --> 00:44:12,650
plus reinterviewing dozens of witnesses.
763
00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:14,133
Gonna really stretch your manpower.
764
00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:16,654
We can use academy recruits
to fill out the teams.
765
00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,239
Only way we'll be able
to even half-ass it.
766
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,700
Based on this,
767
00:44:22,868 --> 00:44:25,913
I'm redeploying today's search
to a previous dump site...
768
00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:27,498
Redwine Road,
769
00:44:27,581 --> 00:44:29,416
where we found Milton Harvey's remains.
770
00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:33,587
Assemble your teams.
See if this amounts to anything.
771
00:44:34,129 --> 00:44:36,674
- Thank you, Chief.
- Thank you.
772
00:44:36,757 --> 00:44:38,926
- Thank you.
- Thank you, gentlemen.
773
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:46,975
Remember Earl Terrell?
I'd like to work his case.
774
00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,746
He's still missing, but I think
we could do more than we did for him.
775
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:52,147
Of course. Mind if I round out your team?
776
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:53,911
Think I'll join the Chief
at the dump site.
777
00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:54,941
Okay.
778
00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:56,819
So he was last seen
779
00:44:56,902 --> 00:44:58,862
at the pool across the park.
780
00:44:59,154 --> 00:45:01,448
It was a long time ago,
but do you remember him?
781
00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:02,532
I seen him.
782
00:45:02,866 --> 00:45:04,451
Him and a couple others.
783
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:07,246
You recall seeing him last summer?
784
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:09,456
Yeah. Lots of times.
785
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,709
Are you out here on your porch
two days a week?
786
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:13,335
- Three?
- Well, if it's hot,
787
00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:14,628
I'm out here every day.
788
00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:17,214
So in the summer, I see everybody.
789
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:23,303
Sometimes... them kids head down...
790
00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:25,431
that house there.
791
00:45:25,806 --> 00:45:27,766
- The brick house?
- Mm-hmm.
792
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:30,936
And sometimes they go to Elsie's. There.
793
00:45:31,353 --> 00:45:33,153
- That yellow house?
- Mm-hmm.
794
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:36,191
Ma'am, are those glasses prescription?
795
00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:37,943
These are my readers.
796
00:45:38,026 --> 00:45:39,153
For my stories.
797
00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:42,656
Anything else you told the officers before
could be helpful.
798
00:45:43,073 --> 00:45:44,950
Weren't no officers come here.
799
00:45:45,033 --> 00:45:46,910
Ain't nobody ask us nothin'.
800
00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:49,913
Thank you, ma'am.
You've been very helpful.
801
00:45:49,997 --> 00:45:51,517
- Mm-hmm.
- Thank you.
802
00:45:53,083 --> 00:45:54,793
There's no car at the brick house.
803
00:45:55,252 --> 00:45:56,295
Elsie's first.
804
00:45:56,378 --> 00:45:58,088
That's the third person we've talked to
805
00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:00,132
within one block
of where this kid disappeared,
806
00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:01,759
and not one of them was interviewed.
807
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:04,511
Starting to think there's a lot
that's dropped through the cracks.
808
00:46:06,263 --> 00:46:08,891
We called and told them
Earl came by the day he went missing,
809
00:46:08,974 --> 00:46:10,517
but nobody came askin'.
810
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:14,480
He was looking for Albert,
but Albert wasn't home, so Earl, he left.
811
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,317
Albert, get in here.
812
00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:24,239
Tell 'em about Earl.
813
00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:30,120
Him and Lubie come over to play sometimes.
814
00:46:30,537 --> 00:46:31,371
I wasn't here.
815
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:32,455
Lubie Geter?
816
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880
- He and Earl knew each other?
- Yeah.
817
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,921
Earl act sometimes
like Lubie's big brother,
818
00:46:39,004 --> 00:46:40,172
take him around and stuff.
819
00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:41,423
Where would Earl take him?
820
00:46:41,757 --> 00:46:43,467
You know, just around.
821
00:46:43,842 --> 00:46:45,922
Do you know where else
Earl might have gone that day?
822
00:46:47,721 --> 00:46:48,889
It's all right, baby.
823
00:46:48,972 --> 00:46:50,891
They with the FBI. You can tell them.
824
00:46:52,142 --> 00:46:53,142
See?
825
00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:55,603
You wanna hold it?
826
00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:59,233
Anybody else
Earl might have gone to play with?
827
00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:01,443
They used to hang with Pat-Man.
828
00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:03,403
Does Pat-Man have a last name?
829
00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,738
Won't do no good.
830
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,491
He was... uh, one of them.
831
00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:08,992
One of them?
832
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,787
He was right before Lubie.
His real name was Patrick Rogers.
833
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,497
I didn't like him comin' around here.
834
00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:14,998
He too old for these boys.
835
00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:17,626
Anything else you can tell the men?
836
00:47:17,709 --> 00:47:19,503
Excuse me, the ME's heading out
837
00:47:19,586 --> 00:47:21,213
to Redwine Road. They found something.
838
00:47:22,881 --> 00:47:24,132
Thank you so much, ma'am.
839
00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:31,557
Let's get the address for the brick house.
840
00:47:37,062 --> 00:47:39,189
Guys, these remains
are less than 100 yards
841
00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:41,692
from where Milton Harvey was dumped
13 months ago.
842
00:47:41,775 --> 00:47:44,444
He's returning to the scene.
What's the press doing here?
843
00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:47,088
Get down there and set up a perimeter!
This is now a crime scene.
844
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:50,993
Forensics show up yet?
845
00:47:51,076 --> 00:47:52,995
We don't have a body retrieval unit.
846
00:47:53,328 --> 00:47:55,205
Recruits will collect any evidence.
847
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:56,665
It's not Lubie Geter.
848
00:47:56,748 --> 00:47:57,791
Been out here too long.
849
00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,936
But it could be
one of the other three still missing.
850
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,813
Earl Terrell was wearing shorts
when he disappeared.
851
00:48:01,837 --> 00:48:02,838
What do you got?
852
00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:05,382
I found these close to the road.
853
00:48:05,465 --> 00:48:08,218
A tennis shoe, one cigarette butt,
and a couple of porno mags.
854
00:48:08,302 --> 00:48:09,845
- Porno?
- Yes, sir.
855
00:48:09,928 --> 00:48:11,096
Gallery and Penthouse.
856
00:48:11,763 --> 00:48:14,766
There's tire tracks, a heavy vehicle,
near where we found 'em.
857
00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:17,269
- Body! Body!
- Body!
858
00:48:17,394 --> 00:48:19,194
Come on! Body!
859
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:23,101
Get this stuff into evidence bags
and get some gloves.
860
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:24,067
Yes, sir.
861
00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:26,486
We need to get
a real forensics unit down here.
862
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:27,988
Three bodies at one site.
863
00:48:28,363 --> 00:48:31,533
It's one guy. And this is his graveyard.
864
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:41,418
Well, lucky he had a prior.
865
00:48:42,169 --> 00:48:44,463
Never would have traced the prints
off those magazines.
866
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:46,757
A plumber.
867
00:48:47,341 --> 00:48:49,676
Runs his own business
out of his rented home.
868
00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:52,054
Short rap sheet.
869
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:54,574
- One incident of petty theft.
- What kind?
870
00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:55,682
Clothing? Personal items?
871
00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:56,766
Tires.
872
00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,895
Seemed like he needed a set of 4
when he was 19.
873
00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:03,523
No, uh, prior assault.
874
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:06,818
No history of racial violence.
875
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:08,779
Sound like our man?
876
00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:11,698
Wait a minute, this guy's Caucasian.
877
00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:14,868
Doesn't change anything
if we can tie him directly to a scene.
878
00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:16,515
We should at least follow up on that.
879
00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:19,289
Those magazines are
adult women, not black children.
880
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:22,376
Even if the labs are positive for semen,
it supports nothing.
881
00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:25,921
Holden, we have three bodies
within 100 yards of each other.
882
00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:28,757
There's no doubt
the unsub's dumping them there.
883
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,884
I'm just saying, before we drag in...
884
00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:34,721
Pickett Yarborough,
he's not who we're looking for.
885
00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:38,100
Did we run his car?
886
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,727
White 1975 pickup truck.
887
00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:42,062
No police-type vehicle.
888
00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:43,730
No, but utilitarian.
889
00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,959
You could keep a hunting kit
without drawing suspicion.
890
00:49:45,983 --> 00:49:47,025
We could surveil him.
891
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:49,253
If he smells us at all,
he'll destroy evidence.
892
00:49:49,277 --> 00:49:50,529
We need to get warrants.
893
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:52,906
Search his house, his truck.
894
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:55,826
I think we should bring him in.
895
00:49:56,034 --> 00:49:57,619
Even if it's just to rule him out.
896
00:49:57,703 --> 00:49:59,623
Jim, you're familiar with DA Slaton,
are you not?
897
00:50:01,206 --> 00:50:02,791
Slaton's third generation law.
898
00:50:02,874 --> 00:50:04,126
He ain't by the book,
899
00:50:04,918 --> 00:50:06,003
he is the book.
900
00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:33,530
Excuse me, gentlemen,
we're closed for an event.
901
00:50:33,613 --> 00:50:35,782
We need to speak
with District Attorney Slaton.
902
00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,284
If you could point him out to us.
903
00:50:37,367 --> 00:50:39,995
Uh, I'm sorry,
we're a private institution.
904
00:50:40,078 --> 00:50:42,372
I'm happy to let Mr. Slaton
know you're here, mister...
905
00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:44,458
Special Agents Tench, Ford, and Barney.
906
00:50:44,541 --> 00:50:47,461
Excuse me a moment?
Mr. and Mrs. Peteet, right this way.
907
00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:51,213
Well...
908
00:50:51,548 --> 00:50:52,632
enjoy your evening.
909
00:50:53,258 --> 00:50:56,887
Mr. Slaton is making an address
at the moment. Excuse me.
910
00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:58,930
Mr. and Mrs. Hamilton, right this way.
911
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:01,266
I apologize.
912
00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:03,977
If you gentlemen could just wait in...
913
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:08,398
wait in here,
I'll ask if he can see you afterwards.
914
00:51:11,443 --> 00:51:12,443
Thank you.
915
00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:14,946
Mr. and Mrs. Trambley.
916
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,992
We're only going to get Slaton's ear
for a minute.
917
00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:21,787
I'll call and see if the labs are back.
918
00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,791
It's been my pleasure to serve
as chair of the fund drive this season.
919
00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:29,419
I told the board,
I can't string two notes together,
920
00:51:29,503 --> 00:51:31,379
but I know good music when I hear it.
921
00:51:31,463 --> 00:51:33,757
Our symphony stands up
against any in the country.
922
00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:37,427
New York, Philadelphia, you name it.
923
00:51:37,511 --> 00:51:39,096
Music lover. Who'd have thought?
924
00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:42,307
But no cultural organization
can flourish...
925
00:51:43,016 --> 00:51:45,352
without benevolent donors like yourselves.
926
00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:49,523
You are the very lifeblood
of the arts in Atlanta.
927
00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,902
Yes, my wife wrote that last part for me.
928
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:55,654
But it's absolutely true.
929
00:51:56,571 --> 00:51:59,908
These musicians are a credit
to their community,
930
00:52:00,575 --> 00:52:03,328
to our city,
and to the great state of Georgia.
931
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:07,624
So please, give generously...
and enjoy your evening.
932
00:52:07,707 --> 00:52:08,707
Thank you.
933
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:15,674
Labs are back.
No blood, but definite seminal fluid.
934
00:52:15,757 --> 00:52:18,760
Gonna be a hard sell.
935
00:52:27,310 --> 00:52:29,479
I'd hoped
since you gentlemen thought it necessary
936
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,356
to pull me out of my wife's event,
937
00:52:31,606 --> 00:52:34,860
which took three months to plan,
you'd have a more compelling argument.
938
00:52:34,943 --> 00:52:37,154
Sir, if I can explain our methodology.
939
00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:39,531
I'm an evidence man, Agent Tench.
940
00:52:39,614 --> 00:52:42,325
You have no eyewitness account,
no relevant priors,
941
00:52:42,409 --> 00:52:45,745
no evidence directly tying this man
to any of the bodies.
942
00:52:46,204 --> 00:52:50,208
Sir, these types of crimes
are sexually motivated.
943
00:52:50,292 --> 00:52:53,170
The men who perpetrate them
are compelled to repeat the crime...
944
00:52:53,628 --> 00:52:55,839
or to relive the sexual satisfaction
945
00:52:55,922 --> 00:52:59,217
by going to crime scenes
and feeling that relief again.
946
00:52:59,301 --> 00:53:01,261
Finding three bodies over time
947
00:53:01,344 --> 00:53:03,680
and a clear-cut scene
of self-gratification
948
00:53:03,763 --> 00:53:05,265
at the same remote site...
949
00:53:05,348 --> 00:53:07,243
We're concerned that if we merely surveil,
950
00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,270
the suspect will destroy the evidence
you'll need to prosecute.
951
00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:12,105
As intriguing as that sounds,
952
00:53:12,772 --> 00:53:16,151
I've never issued warrants
based on radical psychological theories.
953
00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:18,778
My constituents trust
that I will protect their rights
954
00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:20,572
against unlawful search and seizure.
955
00:53:20,655 --> 00:53:22,824
Lubie Geter has been missing for six days.
956
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,702
We've got no leads
and the clock is ticking.
957
00:53:29,247 --> 00:53:30,248
I'll grant your warrants.
958
00:53:31,541 --> 00:53:33,919
But I want no press.
959
00:53:34,669 --> 00:53:35,670
None.
960
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:39,132
This must remain absolutely silent.
961
00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:40,466
Understood.
962
00:53:43,094 --> 00:53:44,238
- It's okay.
- No.
963
00:53:44,262 --> 00:53:46,324
- Baby, don't worry about me.
- What's happening?
964
00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:47,867
- It'll be all right.
- Don't touch me.
965
00:53:47,891 --> 00:53:49,211
It'll be fine, baby.
966
00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:51,686
- This is a mistake.
- Don't you touch me!
967
00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:54,231
Honey! Honey, please just tell me,
what's happening?
968
00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:57,609
Don't you touch me.
969
00:53:59,277 --> 00:54:01,437
- It's okay, baby.
- Hon... Honey?
970
00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:02,697
Honey, please come back.
971
00:54:04,574 --> 00:54:07,054
He can't know we've got his truck
until we get him in the room.
972
00:54:09,329 --> 00:54:10,329
Hey!
973
00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:15,335
- Send him around the block.
- Go ahead. Circle around.
974
00:54:27,389 --> 00:54:28,431
I don't know, guys.
975
00:54:37,649 --> 00:54:38,649
Who's going first?
976
00:54:38,984 --> 00:54:39,901
Nobody for a while.
977
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:42,185
We ought to at least start working
through the timeline.
978
00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:44,447
He might have a string of alibis
for all we know.
979
00:54:44,531 --> 00:54:47,284
We found it's best to let them wait,
especially at night.
980
00:54:47,367 --> 00:54:49,452
If this is the guy,
it's the best way to break him.
981
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:54,124
Where are we with him?
982
00:54:56,418 --> 00:54:57,418
Commissioner.
983
00:55:01,339 --> 00:55:03,341
How confident are we
he's our perpetrator?
984
00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:04,968
We won't know until we get in there.
985
00:55:05,051 --> 00:55:07,280
Well, let's start working on him.
The longer we keep him,
986
00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,222
the more likely
someone will get wind of this.
987
00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:10,866
Slaton said he was very clear with you.
988
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:12,570
This is
about setting the right conditions,
989
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,019
creating leverage with the subject.
990
00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:15,913
We may only get him once
in this state of mind.
991
00:55:15,937 --> 00:55:18,481
If we get nothing from him
and this hits the papers,
992
00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:20,859
this will be our second public setback
in a week.
993
00:55:20,942 --> 00:55:22,795
We should put as much effort
into law enforcement
994
00:55:22,819 --> 00:55:24,654
- as we do managing perceptions.
- Holden.
995
00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:26,590
Right now,
we better put together a statement
996
00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:28,742
because looks like they got hold of it.
997
00:55:28,825 --> 00:55:29,825
Shit.
998
00:55:32,495 --> 00:55:34,456
I'll let them know
it's an ongoing investigation.
999
00:55:34,539 --> 00:55:36,124
We're in the process of ID'ing bodies.
1000
00:55:36,207 --> 00:55:37,584
I don't think so.
1001
00:55:50,638 --> 00:55:52,849
How does the press find out
everywhere we go?
1002
00:55:53,975 --> 00:55:55,101
I don't know,
1003
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:57,645
but I hope we find something
in that fucking truck.
1004
00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:01,097
I cannot comment on the individual
at this time,
1005
00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:05,445
other than to say
that we have issued a custodial warrant.
1006
00:56:05,528 --> 00:56:07,072
No charges have been issued.
1007
00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:11,659
Ladies and gentlemen,
we will keep you apprised.
1008
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:24,964
♪ Lunatic fringe ♪
1009
00:56:27,258 --> 00:56:29,677
♪ I know you're out there ♪
1010
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,808
♪ You're in hiding ♪
1011
00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:39,729
♪ And you hold your meetings ♪
1012
00:56:42,232 --> 00:56:44,109
♪ I can hear you coming ♪
1013
00:56:46,945 --> 00:56:49,322
♪ I know what you're after ♪
1014
00:56:51,866 --> 00:56:54,285
♪ We're wise to you this time ♪
1015
00:56:54,369 --> 00:56:56,579
♪ We're wise to you this time ♪
1016
00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:58,748
♪ We won't let you kill the laughter ♪
1017
00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:03,086
♪ Oh! Oh! ♪
1018
00:57:03,586 --> 00:57:05,422
♪ Oh! ♪
1019
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:10,468
- ♪ We can hear you coming ♪
- ♪ We can hear you coming ♪
1020
00:57:10,552 --> 00:57:13,847
♪ No, you're not gonna win this time ♪
1021
00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:15,515
♪ Not gonna win ♪
1022
00:57:16,558 --> 00:57:18,852
♪ We can hear the footsteps ♪
1023
00:57:19,018 --> 00:57:21,271
- ♪ We can hear the footsteps ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
1024
00:57:21,604 --> 00:57:23,815
♪ Out along the walkway ♪
1025
00:57:24,023 --> 00:57:26,192
♪ Out along the walkway ♪
1026
00:57:27,152 --> 00:57:28,820
♪ Lunatic fringe ♪
1027
00:57:31,322 --> 00:57:33,616
♪ We all know you're out there ♪
1028
00:57:35,869 --> 00:57:38,830
♪ Can you feel the resistance ♪
1029
00:57:40,957 --> 00:57:47,464
♪ Can you feel the thunder? ♪
1030
00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:53,386
♪ Oh no! ♪
1031
00:58:00,602 --> 00:58:02,604
♪ Hey! ♪
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