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All right. Buckle your seatbelt.
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This is gonna be the bet.
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If I won,
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I get to come over to your
house with my bag of goodies.
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Uh, inside my bag of goodies
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there are several different
bundles of shibari rope.
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Shibari is the Japanese
art of rope bondage.
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My bet was going to involve
showing up at your place
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and completely tying you
up and incapacitating you
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and then being able
to do whatever I wanted
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to every single hole in your
body until I was done with you.
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Trouble for Golden
Globe nominee, Armie Hammer,
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known for his roles in The Social
Network and Call Me By Your Name.
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Disturbing and racy
messages allegedly sent to women
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by the actor Armie Hammer
are trending on Twitter.
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Shocking DM's allegedly sent from
Armie Hammer's public accounts
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are going viral on social media.
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How did Armie Hammer
go from Hollywood golden boy
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to an alleged abuser?
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The actor Armie Hammer
has been confirmed as the suspect
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in an alleged
sexual assault case
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by the Los Angeles
Police Department.
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I thought we were all joking about
that Armie Hammer stuff, but that's real?
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I just found out
that that's real.
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I have a new development, his
aunt wrote a book about their family,
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and let me tell you, this
stuff didn't start with Armie.
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I know my
grandfather had a dark side,
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but I saw my father's
dark side firsthand,
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and I've seen my
brother's dark side.
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And I've just heard about
Armie's dark side, but I believe it.
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More. One more.
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Every generation in my family
has been involved in dark misdeeds...
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and it just gets worse
and worse and worse.
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My name's Courtney Vucekovich,
um, I am from Dallas, Texas.
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I am the CEO and founder
of an app called FLASHD.
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I started that in 2017.
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I'm here to talk about...
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what happened in my
relationship with Armie Hammer.
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I would love to be
able to paint a picture
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of the red flags
that I saw and...
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what happened in order
for me to get in the mindset
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where I was almost fully
controlled by somebody.
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I had lost my
entire sense of self.
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You're his. Completely.
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I think it was November,
December, 2019.
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I remember the Christmas
lights in Highland Park Village.
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They light up. It's
super gorgeous.
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I'm just trying to enjoy a night
with my friends at a bar in Dallas.
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Then my friend's like, "That's Armie
Hammer, from the Facebook movie."
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I didn't know who he
was. Like, he was tall,
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and he didn't dress like a frat boy, so I
was like, "Wow, yeah. He's super cute."
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We, like, saw each
other in passing, like,
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spoke very briefly at the
bar, and then I go home.
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Then I woke up the next morning,
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and he had added
me on Instagram.
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I followed him back, and just sat there
from afar looking at each other's lives.
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He acts very goofy. I remember
being like, "This is fun."
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It made him feel interesting.
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Breaking news tonight as
the COVID-19 virus continues to spread,
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forcing millions of
Americans into lockdown,
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non-essential business
ordered to close.
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COVID happened
in March, so with everything shut down,
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my business was on pause.
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So you're like, sitting
there with your thoughts.
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It was difficult, and
then June 2020,
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I get an Armie Hammer
DM, a little blue checkmark.
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He just chose to speak to me
one day, so I was like, "Hmm."
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You know, my brain, I'm like...
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"I've been doing
nothing for a month.
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It's COVID. This
is interesting."
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But I was very hesitant
because I see the persona
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that was public, was he's
married and that he's the father
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of these two beautiful kids.
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So I was like, "Aren't
you married?" You know?
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He's like, "My wife and I, we have
been separated for almost two years."
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I've been living in New
York. She lives in LA.
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And I believed it
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because he would
send me text messages
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and call me every day,
constant communication.
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The second he woke up to we'd
fall asleep on the phone together.
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And immediately he was just
sharing all these things with me,
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intimate details
about his parents,
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family secrets, and I'm like,
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"Wow, this is, like, really powerful.
He must feel, like, really safe."
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In return, I felt very
safe telling him mine.
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I had gotten out of a really,
really, toxic relationship.
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And we were sharing
just very intimate things.
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A lot of the things we shared were
trauma we experienced as children.
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And it is even a
deeper connection,
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like, really, like, rooted
those bonds for me,
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that he was so vulnerable to
share something like this with me,
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because I'd never told anybody.
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I wanted to help him.
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At the same time, he's
blowing me up with compliments.
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"How could you be this
beautiful? This smart? So funny?
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You're such a good
listener. You get me."
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It's like, he's like, "I feel such
an intense connection with you.
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Is that crazy? Are
we being crazy?"
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And I'm just like,
"Maybe we are."
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Between the love
bombing and the attention,
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I felt like this
was all perfect,
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this was amazing, this was,
like, what we're all taught to think
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is a fairy tale
when we're little.
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Not only is he an actor, a
pretty well-known actor...
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he was gorgeous and tall
and... What does he want with me?
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You know, to say, to say that
it didn't have an effect would...
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I think it would have
an effect on anybody.
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Unfortunately, Armie Hammer can't
be here today, which is probably better
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because we'd all
be staring at him
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since he's such a God damn hunk.
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There's, like, certain people
that if they shine their light on you,
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you believe, like, you're
the only person in the room.
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There is an element
of that to Armie.
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I know Armie
through acting class.
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We were in the same Tuesday
night acting class for years.
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I got to watch his,
kind of, rise to stardom.
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Armie had bit player
roles in the beginning.
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He would have a couple of lines,
you know? It builds a resume.
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Hey! Star dork.
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And then he got
Gossip Girl, and that was, what?
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Like, a couple of episodes?
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But we were all in
the same kind of boat.
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We were all just scrambling
to try to get auditions.
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The Social Network auditions
kinda hit like a tornado.
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Everybody was auditioning for these roles,
you know? This is a great opportunity.
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Armie was cast as
the Winklevoss twins.
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They had the idea for
Facebook on the Harvard campus.
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You know, the attributes are tall,
good-looking, comes from extreme wealth.
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Armie has all of those.
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And I do remember
hearing that David Fincher,
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the director of The Social
Network, liked Armie's pedigree.
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These are millionaires.
Who knows better than that
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than a descendant
of Armand Hammer?
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I just can't get over what a
great name "Armie Hammer" is.
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It's just a really hard name
to be when you're like, five.
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Especially 'cause it's,
like, short for "Armand."
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Which is, like, a big
name for a little kid, so...
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- You were named for your great grandfather...
- Yeah.
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Who was the billionaire owner
of, uh, Occidental Petroleum.
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- Yes.
- Which sounds like the bad corporation
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in a Batman movie, by the way.
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Armie didn't like speaking
about his family or his history.
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Having lived
in Hollywood for twenty years,
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you see the name Hammer
on museums and on parks.
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So I knew their family had
a lot of money and power.
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My name is Seth Abramovitch,
and I'm a journalist.
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I write for the
Hollywood Reporter.
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When I interviewed Armie, he was in
awards contention for Call Me By Your Name,
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and was on that teetering cusp
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of establishing himself as a force to
be contended with within Hollywood.
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We started at Holmby Park
in Westwood, at his request.
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There's a big sign that says, "The
Armand Hammer Golf Course."
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I was like, "Look, it's your
great grandfather's name."
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Dr. Armand Hammer
has parlayed outstanding private success
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into public power as a Chairman
and CEO of Occidental Petroleum,
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a diversified $16
billion company.
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Dr. Armand Hammer is one of
the world's leading capitalists.
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Armie's a very
handsome actor who came out of privilege,
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and the history of his
family is very interesting.
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He did not have a
typical childhood.
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So right away I was
intrigued by this person was.
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Armie was born in
Santa Monica, California,
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and he said his father
made an unusual decision,
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which was to move the
family to the Cayman Islands.
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He and his young brother were
brought there from a young age.
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I was curious why out of all the
places in the world, the Cayman Islands.
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I associate the Cayman Islands with offshore
bank accounts that sort of can't be touched.
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So I assumed it was
something financial.
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They returned to Los Angeles,
I think he was in seventh grade,
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and Armie started pursuing
this idea that he had
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when he was younger, which
was that he wanted to be an actor.
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The Social Network
absolutely launched his career.
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He was starring opposite Justin
Timberlake, Andrew Garfield.
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It was the movie of the year.
That was what made him.
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I remember bumping into
him, and all of a sudden
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there's Armie in
a three-piece suit,
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looking amazing,
looking like a movie star.
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It's official. I have arrived.
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And Elizabeth was with him.
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- I'm here with my beautiful wife.
- Hi.
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The roles just kept coming where he
was always playing the handsome man...
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but the problem
was it was a wave
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of box office bombs after bombs.
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You know, these
movies weren't hitting.
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What movie besides Social
Network had really made money?
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Thankfully, Call Me By Your Name
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happened and got
him buzzing again.
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There was this
buzz everywhere you looked
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in the run-up to this
movie coming out.
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It just sounded very
daring, very sexy.
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The two of
them together being sexual on screen
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was going to make
headlines no matter what.
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He already
was taking a real risk.
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Hollywood loves when an
actor takes a risk like that,
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and so that buzz is really
what pushed him onto our cover.
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You were reading about him
all the time. People cared about him more.
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He, of course, was doing
massive press for the movie
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because he was on
on Oscar campaign.
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Your fans want to hear from you.
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At the time, you
could say Armie started
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cosplaying the life of kind of
a perfect movie star, if you will.
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He seemed to be doing
things the exact right way.
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He had the picture
perfect marriage he had two children.
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Everything he described was
very much lovey dovey fairy tale.
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He came from this family of wealth and
privilege, and his career was swimming.
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Generally, you did not get
the whiff of scandal around him.
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There was one thing
that repeatedly came up
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when I talked to people and
told them I was profiling him,
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and it was about, that he had a
sort of edgy interest in BDSM sex.
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I did bring it up, and he shut
me down pretty decisively.
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He said he has less of a comment
than even if he had no comment.
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Julia...
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are you okay to
bring up your phone
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- so we can talk about some of those examples?
- Yeah.
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I haven't
really digested this one.
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He says...
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"I have a fantasy about having
someone prove their love and devotion
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and tying them up in a public place
at night and making their body free use
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and seeing if they will
fuck strangers for me."
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When I first saw that
Armie Hammer was following me,
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it was about a week
before quarantine,
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and I looked up his
Instagram, and I said,
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"Oh, it's the guy from
The Social Network."
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Like, you know, he's a big movie star,
he was just in Call Me By Your Name.
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I opened up my messages with
the intention of saying, you know,
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"Hey, thanks for the follow."
Or something like that.
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And I had seen that he had
already messaged me in 2017.
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And it was this long message.
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He was inquiring about a
series of photographs of me.
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And when I reached out back to
him, almost exactly three years later...
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he got back to
me within an hour,
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and then we just
started talking.
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My name is Julia Morrison.
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I am a artist and writer, uh, based
in New York and Los Angeles.
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That series of artworks
is titled For Arabella,
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by an artist named Sarah Bahbah.
237
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They are about a toxic relationship
and breaking free from that.
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You have, you know,
very existentialist sorts
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of captions with
beautiful girls.
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A lot of them are
quite provocative.
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I did ash him which artworks of
that series he was most drawn in by.
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He said he liked that
photo of me being choked.
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He started saying things
like, "God, you're so perfect.
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It's like you were made for me."
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Which is ironic because, you know,
he just completely missed the message.
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Being a young
woman in this industry
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where you're modeling,
acting, making art,
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people will shower you with
compliments, and you're like,
249
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"Oh, yeah. Well, my
shit's tight." You know?
250
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"Like, why wouldn't they
be obsessed with me?"
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So, like, I mean, I don't want
to sound, like, totally full of myself,
252
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but, no, I was not fully alarmed
at first. I was more intrigued.
253
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He invited me to a
play really early on.
254
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I mean, within a few hours,
really, of our conversation was,
255
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you know, "Oh, are
you in New York?
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I'm working on a play
here. Do you want to come?"
257
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And I was interested in going,
and then lockdown happened.
258
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Shortly after that, things
became sexual in conversation.
259
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It didn't really seem that
unnatural at first for me
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because of the context of the times that
we were going through in that moment.
261
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You know, my friends were
telling me about Zoom dates
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and phone sex with so and
so from, you know, Hinge or Tinder,
263
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and I'm, you know,
speaking with Armie Hammer
264
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like this in my Instagram DM's.
265
00:19:06,214 --> 00:19:09,754
Once the sexual nature
of the DM's started,
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it was all that he ever
wanted to talk about.
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He says to me, "Fine,
let's be open and honest.
268
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"I've wanted to tie you up since
I saw those god damn pictures
269
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and messaged you about it."
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"Shibari is how it's spelled.
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It's the Japanese
art of rope bondage
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with its cousin Kinbaku."
For total restraint.
273
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And then he was
saying to me about how
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if I were to submit to him, um,
275
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at the level of, uh,
where he could, you know,
276
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call me and say one word
and get me to come on demand,
277
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um, like Pavlovian dog style.
278
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Like, kind of getting you into
this, like, submissive space
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where, like, you know,
he's, you know, the dominant.
280
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These are messages that are being sent
literally within seconds of each other.
281
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You know, very heavy
and very frequent.
282
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"Let me take care
of everything?"
283
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"You don't think or worry about
anything except being a good little pet.
284
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My own personal little slave."
285
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"In return you will be
worshipped, fed, and fucked."
286
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I was like, like.
287
00:20:43,137 --> 00:20:45,220
But those little
hearts just means
288
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that you're engaged or
that you even received it.
289
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That's totally different
than actually being, like,
290
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in a intimate space
with someone.
291
00:20:54,701 --> 00:20:58,520
All of that very forward
talk was just kind of, like,
292
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back and forth like
that for six months.
293
00:21:01,438 --> 00:21:06,021
But I did google and see that
he had, you know, had a family,
294
00:21:06,022 --> 00:21:10,189
and so I figured a
man who's married
295
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who is doing that with me, I'm not naive
enough to think that I'm the only one.
296
00:21:23,455 --> 00:21:27,899
For July 4th, he
tells me he was doing this road trip.
297
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He was going Miami to LA, and
he's gonna cross through Texas.
298
00:21:32,276 --> 00:21:36,234
And I have had plans to go into
the Hamptons with some friends.
299
00:21:36,235 --> 00:21:40,089
It was already set, and he
almost got upset with me,
300
00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:44,569
that I was gonna be gone
when he was driving through.
301
00:21:46,027 --> 00:21:47,520
Somebody had my
phone, they're like,
302
00:21:47,521 --> 00:21:49,709
"Somebody named Armie
has called you like 22 times."
303
00:21:54,779 --> 00:21:59,085
He sends me a picture when I'm in
the Hamptons of my building in Dallas.
304
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At this point, we've
never spent time together.
305
00:22:16,239 --> 00:22:19,573
So it was weird.
306
00:22:19,574 --> 00:22:24,992
I remember being like, "Are
we flirting or is this scary?"
307
00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:45,723
I get back from New York,
and he left me this note.
308
00:22:45,724 --> 00:22:49,403
"Oh, this will be a cute
note." So I open the envelope,
309
00:22:49,405 --> 00:22:53,121
and it just says, "I'm going
to bite the fuck out of you."
310
00:22:56,454 --> 00:22:58,468
And then he
autographed this note.
311
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I didn't know how to feel
about the note, you know?
312
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It was, like...
313
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he talks so sweetly
sometimes on the phone,
314
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just, like, compliments
and compliments,
315
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,867
then you get a note that says,
"I'm going to bite the fuck out of you."
316
00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:20,207
As crazy as that sounds, I took
it metaphorically, not literally.
317
00:23:20,208 --> 00:23:25,520
I thought he just wanted the intimacy,
the closeness, wanted us to be together.
318
00:23:25,521 --> 00:23:30,556
So I chose to look at it as
more flattering than concerning.
319
00:23:30,626 --> 00:23:33,959
When I told my friends about
us talking, I left that part out.
320
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,521
I think that says a lot.
321
00:23:39,828 --> 00:23:42,189
Elizabeth
Chambers and her actor husband,
322
00:23:42,190 --> 00:23:44,481
Armie Hammer, split.
323
00:23:44,482 --> 00:23:48,023
On Friday, the movie star shared
the news in an Instagram post.
324
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Quote, "It has been
an incredible journey,
325
00:23:51,879 --> 00:23:57,294
but together, we've decided to turn the
page and move on from our marriage."
326
00:23:57,295 --> 00:24:00,420
They released a joint
statement, interestingly enough,
327
00:24:00,421 --> 00:24:02,713
so, you know, they were gonna
be super supportive of each other.
328
00:24:02,714 --> 00:24:06,811
"This was an amicable split. We've
grown apart. We've done everything."
329
00:24:06,881 --> 00:24:10,249
You know, there's this
thing of, like, if you get married young,
330
00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:14,937
if you have kids young, eventually you're
gonna have some sort of midlife crisis
331
00:24:15,006 --> 00:24:17,959
or something that you're gonna
explore all of these darker sides.
332
00:24:18,027 --> 00:24:20,425
Or was that Armie all along?
333
00:24:27,612 --> 00:24:28,942
We are number one for departure.
334
00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:31,363
Please prepare the captains.
335
00:24:31,364 --> 00:24:34,628
I was coming to
LA. I was coming to see a friend,
336
00:24:34,696 --> 00:24:37,128
and after just
talking constantly,
337
00:24:37,198 --> 00:24:39,490
Armie and I were both,
like, okay, we have to meet.
338
00:24:40,532 --> 00:24:42,510
And this is a new
experience to me.
339
00:24:42,511 --> 00:24:44,136
I've never been with
somebody like this.
340
00:24:56,783 --> 00:25:00,881
He's, like, we're going on
an adventure to the desert.
341
00:25:02,305 --> 00:25:04,180
This is flirty!
342
00:25:04,181 --> 00:25:09,112
Fun, different, but bizarre,
risky. I've never met this man.
343
00:25:10,570 --> 00:25:12,098
So I'm freaking out.
344
00:25:17,724 --> 00:25:22,517
I'm so anxious. I didn't know
what was gonna happen.
345
00:25:26,787 --> 00:25:29,531
When I got to LA,
346
00:25:29,601 --> 00:25:33,871
the plan was, Armie was gonna pick
me up after I had dinner with my friends.
347
00:25:33,872 --> 00:25:36,371
I was very nervous,
and so was he.
348
00:25:36,372 --> 00:25:40,019
I mean, he was texting me, like, "I can't
believe this. This... I'm so nervous."
349
00:25:44,602 --> 00:25:50,540
He pulls his truck up, and I had
my dog, and I had a little suitcase.
350
00:25:50,541 --> 00:25:53,353
We saw each other and we,
like, kissed on the lips immediately.
351
00:25:53,354 --> 00:25:55,333
And I was, like, I think
we were both, like, whoop?
352
00:25:55,334 --> 00:25:58,598
What? Like... It
just felt natural.
353
00:25:58,667 --> 00:26:02,452
I got in the car, and then we
were, like, off to the desert.
354
00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:11,933
It was very surreal.
355
00:26:12,003 --> 00:26:15,023
I had spent, like, the last
month talking to this person.
356
00:26:15,024 --> 00:26:18,600
Five hours a day, and then you're
spending time with each other.
357
00:26:20,024 --> 00:26:22,629
We spent every day together
for the next three weeks.
358
00:26:26,206 --> 00:26:29,503
We spent a lotta time
in Twentynine Palms.
359
00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:34,332
Armie's friend owns a
motel that he's renovating.
360
00:26:35,755 --> 00:26:37,215
We painted it.
361
00:26:39,749 --> 00:26:44,195
I have a picture of my little
dog under this, like, motel sign.
362
00:26:49,438 --> 00:26:53,153
Right here, this is where we
would have, like, you know,
363
00:26:53,154 --> 00:26:56,176
like, dinners right
here on this long table.
364
00:26:57,217 --> 00:26:58,780
Candlelit dinners.
365
00:27:00,134 --> 00:27:02,113
We didn't leave
each other's side.
366
00:27:02,114 --> 00:27:07,008
If my chair was a foot away
from his, he's pulling my chair over.
367
00:27:07,009 --> 00:27:10,030
He always, like, his
hand's on my leg.
368
00:27:10,031 --> 00:27:14,301
It's like, even the first day that we met,
his hand was always just, like, on my knee.
369
00:27:14,302 --> 00:27:16,213
Like, always needed
to be touching me,
370
00:27:16,281 --> 00:27:20,137
showing me affection, making me
feel really comfortable, and really safe.
371
00:27:21,943 --> 00:27:23,573
It was so hot, so
I'd just be, like,
372
00:27:23,574 --> 00:27:26,839
in a bikini all day, like,
on the back of his scooter.
373
00:27:33,507 --> 00:27:37,221
At night, we would go by the
pool in the back of the motel,
374
00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:42,848
and, like, put a projector out and a
screen and then just, like, watch E.T.
375
00:27:42,849 --> 00:27:45,766
I just felt like, I don't know,
it felt like another world.
376
00:27:46,494 --> 00:27:48,058
It felt magical.
377
00:27:54,864 --> 00:27:58,267
We really connected
just as two people,
378
00:27:58,268 --> 00:28:04,830
not a famous actor and me,
who's a very private person.
379
00:28:04,831 --> 00:28:06,393
I'm just a business
owner in Dallas.
380
00:28:08,686 --> 00:28:10,351
It's so not me to
drop everything
381
00:28:10,352 --> 00:28:12,957
and leave for a man, that's...
I've never been like that.
382
00:28:14,207 --> 00:28:16,706
I think I was starting
to fall for him, for sure.
383
00:28:16,707 --> 00:28:20,701
I mean, I wouldn't have said, "I love you,"
but it was... It was heading towards that.
384
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:23,825
I took a picture right there.
385
00:28:23,826 --> 00:28:26,291
Just a pose to remember
how happy I am for a second.
386
00:28:26,292 --> 00:28:30,459
I truly was so fuckin' happy.
387
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:32,786
I was like, I can't believe
this is happening to me.
388
00:28:38,065 --> 00:28:43,829
But there were times that
something didn't feel right.
389
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,164
This is the first time
at this tractor supply
390
00:28:52,232 --> 00:28:54,143
that he, like, looked
for those ropes.
391
00:28:58,068 --> 00:29:02,338
He would take me
in the rope section.
392
00:29:02,339 --> 00:29:05,775
They were completely out of rope
and I was just, like, thankful, you know?
393
00:29:05,776 --> 00:29:08,520
Or I'm just, like,
"Okay, let's go!"
394
00:29:08,590 --> 00:29:12,479
I think that's when he sensed that
that was out of my comfort zone,
395
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:14,979
so he kind of softened.
396
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,793
One night, he was, like, "Watch
this movie, it's called The Secretary."
397
00:29:22,863 --> 00:29:25,085
It's one of his favorite movies.
398
00:29:25,155 --> 00:29:28,523
Maggie Gyllenhaal is
the assistant to this lawyer
399
00:29:28,592 --> 00:29:30,086
What is wrong with you? That...
400
00:29:30,155 --> 00:29:33,489
He was training
her to be very submissive.
401
00:29:36,302 --> 00:29:38,002
She acts as the desk,
402
00:29:38,003 --> 00:29:43,802
or she'll do the stapler with her
chin, or do everything for him,
403
00:29:43,803 --> 00:29:48,316
and just, like, that's
what he wants from me?
404
00:29:48,317 --> 00:29:55,506
And there was one thing
that happened to me,
405
00:29:57,589 --> 00:29:59,048
I don't even like
to think about it.
406
00:30:01,201 --> 00:30:06,132
The situation that happened
was something... I didn't...
407
00:30:07,765 --> 00:30:13,008
I think it's something you
speak about before it's done,
408
00:30:13,912 --> 00:30:17,592
and we didn't speak about this.
409
00:30:17,661 --> 00:30:22,037
I... It was something that
has never been done to me,
410
00:30:22,038 --> 00:30:26,239
and it is something
that is very degrading,
411
00:30:26,309 --> 00:30:28,219
very belittling,
and I just don't...
412
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:33,115
I don't like to... I don't
wanna put it out there.
413
00:30:40,165 --> 00:30:42,874
Then I'm, like, holy shit!
I've gotta get back to my life,
414
00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:44,888
so I go home.
415
00:30:51,451 --> 00:30:54,020
I broke down in the shower...
416
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,556
crying in the shower.
417
00:30:58,015 --> 00:31:01,974
And I had this wave of anxiety,
418
00:31:02,043 --> 00:31:04,126
it's like my body
was responding,
419
00:31:04,127 --> 00:31:06,106
trying to be like, hey,
something's not right.
420
00:31:07,564 --> 00:31:09,960
But I... I put it
out of my mind,
421
00:31:09,961 --> 00:31:13,746
because when we talk, it's like, "I
miss you so much, I miss you so much,"
422
00:31:13,815 --> 00:31:16,002
"You should move to
LA, be my girlfriend."
423
00:31:16,003 --> 00:31:18,711
He needed me, and it felt nice,
424
00:31:18,712 --> 00:31:21,838
and so we saw each
other about a week later.
425
00:31:23,921 --> 00:31:28,088
He's, like, giving me quality
time, and constant communication,
426
00:31:28,089 --> 00:31:32,082
and PDA, you just feel so loved.
427
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:36,943
When we were together, it felt
good, but when we were apart,
428
00:31:36,944 --> 00:31:40,589
I had this, just, like,
pit in my stomach.
429
00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:43,089
We didn't have the conversation
where we're exclusive,
430
00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:46,459
but we have all these talks where
I'm not supposed to be with anybody,
431
00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:48,021
so it's just him.
432
00:31:48,022 --> 00:31:49,513
He wants complete control of me,
433
00:31:49,515 --> 00:31:53,543
and I didn't have the mental
capacity to think about another soul.
434
00:31:53,613 --> 00:31:57,570
Because, you know, usually he's sending
me a thousand texts and a hundred calls.
435
00:31:57,571 --> 00:32:02,779
I wasn't going on dates,
and that's how he wanted it.
436
00:32:02,780 --> 00:32:06,115
Actress Rumer Willis was
spotted on a date with Armie Hammer.
437
00:32:07,365 --> 00:32:10,108
The couple were
photographed walking around LA.
438
00:32:10,177 --> 00:32:14,275
According to an insider, he's
not looking for a relationship,
439
00:32:14,344 --> 00:32:17,401
and they denied claims that
he is currently dating anyone.
440
00:32:21,776 --> 00:32:24,485
The thing
with Rumer happened and...
441
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:27,264
he said it...
442
00:32:29,139 --> 00:32:30,388
didn't mean anything.
443
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:33,409
But it's like, I remember seeing
444
00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:38,931
the way his hand was around her,
445
00:32:38,932 --> 00:32:42,056
'cause he's very
aggressive with his hands.
446
00:32:42,057 --> 00:32:46,466
He always wanted to be, like, hand on me,
hand on my arm, hugging me, like, always...
447
00:32:46,467 --> 00:32:49,009
But, like, the way he was
touching her, I was just, like...
448
00:32:49,037 --> 00:32:50,912
Made me feel,
like, even smaller.
449
00:32:50,913 --> 00:32:57,372
And I felt betrayed,
so I tried to end it.
450
00:32:58,865 --> 00:33:03,831
I was supposed to come
back to LA in September.
451
00:33:09,491 --> 00:33:14,352
By this time he had moved
into this teeny-tiny pool house.
452
00:33:14,353 --> 00:33:18,935
So I go to the teeny-tiny pool
house and I'm like, I'm gonna end it.
453
00:33:18,936 --> 00:33:20,361
When we were at that pool house,
454
00:33:20,362 --> 00:33:22,904
and I was, like, "You're hurting
me, I can't do this anymore."
455
00:33:24,910 --> 00:33:27,583
He... And he said, "No, you're...
You're gonna have to block me,
456
00:33:27,585 --> 00:33:29,293
you're gonna have
to do all these things."
457
00:33:31,265 --> 00:33:33,245
I leave, we're both crying.
458
00:33:56,338 --> 00:33:59,707
The next day, I go to my
friend's in Beverly Hills,
459
00:33:59,777 --> 00:34:04,671
and we were on a walk and
he showed up on his scooter,
460
00:34:04,672 --> 00:34:08,110
where we were walking, he
had my location on his phone.
461
00:34:08,111 --> 00:34:12,901
And... And I fell
right back into it.
462
00:34:12,902 --> 00:34:13,986
I thought it was romantic.
463
00:34:14,779 --> 00:34:17,000
I thought this...
He's fighting for me.
464
00:34:17,001 --> 00:34:20,022
And instead of going back to
Dallas, we went on another road trip.
465
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:28,321
I think when you really
care for somebody,
466
00:34:28,322 --> 00:34:33,045
it's kind a crazy what your mind
is willing to look past or justify.
467
00:34:35,094 --> 00:34:39,921
But then... There, you know, there's
these things that keep happening that...
468
00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:45,130
Just... I would have, like, hand
marks, like, that would stay on my body.
469
00:34:47,804 --> 00:34:50,199
I think Armie took that picture.
470
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,971
He bites really hard...
471
00:34:53,326 --> 00:34:56,486
and he tells you to wear
them like a badge of honor.
472
00:34:56,555 --> 00:34:59,923
Almost like he convinced
me that I'm lucky to have it.
473
00:34:59,992 --> 00:35:04,576
It's like... As fucked
up as that sounds,
474
00:35:04,577 --> 00:35:07,737
at that time, I was
interpreting that as love.
475
00:35:07,807 --> 00:35:10,446
Like, looking at it
now makes me sick.
476
00:35:10,516 --> 00:35:14,578
And he pushes your
boundaries a little bit at a time.
477
00:35:16,141 --> 00:35:18,676
And then the
tone of the next trip
478
00:35:18,745 --> 00:35:21,976
just felt different from
the very beginning.
479
00:35:31,142 --> 00:35:36,179
This time when he picked me up, I
saw a brown bag and it had ropes in it.
480
00:35:43,748 --> 00:35:46,354
We drove through Sedona.
481
00:35:48,438 --> 00:35:49,514
We get to this hotel.
482
00:35:51,771 --> 00:35:54,061
We have dinner.
483
00:35:54,062 --> 00:35:59,270
There's this gin, vermouth,
like, it's... He orders four a these,
484
00:35:59,271 --> 00:36:01,459
I've had one margarita.
485
00:36:02,919 --> 00:36:05,836
And it's like, we're
not getting along.
486
00:36:06,495 --> 00:36:08,647
He's in a weird mood.
487
00:36:08,648 --> 00:36:13,440
Nothing about the moment felt
good. And then he mentions the ropes.
488
00:36:13,441 --> 00:36:15,066
I was... My heart
dropped in my stomach.
489
00:36:18,893 --> 00:36:23,650
He told me he's only ever tied
up mannequins, never people.
490
00:36:23,651 --> 00:36:27,922
He wants to share this with
me. His fantasy, this experience.
491
00:36:29,311 --> 00:36:31,811
Something new that he's
never tried with anybody.
492
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:40,110
So then I was, like, "I'm really
not in the mood, I don't feel good.
493
00:36:40,111 --> 00:36:41,396
I don't feel well."
494
00:36:41,466 --> 00:36:45,042
He was just like... Acted
mad, like, would look away, like,
495
00:36:45,111 --> 00:36:47,613
I... I just was like,
how do I get outta this?
496
00:36:58,690 --> 00:37:02,822
And then that night,
he was drunk, I was not,
497
00:37:04,386 --> 00:37:09,802
and... I didn't say, "No."
498
00:37:09,803 --> 00:37:14,282
Um, I said, "I didn't feel good,"
I... I said everything except, "No."
499
00:37:19,491 --> 00:37:25,118
So he puts
on this creepy playlist,
500
00:37:25,881 --> 00:37:26,923
and...
501
00:37:31,369 --> 00:37:32,410
Just like...
502
00:37:34,737 --> 00:37:35,779
Like...
503
00:37:36,925 --> 00:37:40,222
It's... The ropes were
around your neck,
504
00:37:40,223 --> 00:37:43,140
your wrists, your
ankles, behind your back.
505
00:37:43,141 --> 00:37:44,183
It's like...
506
00:37:45,954 --> 00:37:49,531
It was... I mean, I had
bruises, I had... I hated it.
507
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:54,496
It's like, I understand that
if this is, like, your fantasy,
508
00:37:54,497 --> 00:37:57,099
or this is your thing...
509
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:01,616
more power to you, but this was
not... I didn't like it, and it's like...
510
00:38:02,623 --> 00:38:04,811
it didn't feel safe, or like...
511
00:38:05,887 --> 00:38:10,748
I didn't feel, like, loved,
or it was just horrible.
512
00:38:10,749 --> 00:38:13,595
And you're like,
completely immobilized.
513
00:38:13,596 --> 00:38:17,625
And it's like, there's
something about trauma...
514
00:38:19,292 --> 00:38:21,999
while you're
immobilized and can't move.
515
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,228
There's that fight or flight, you
can't do either, you're just stuck there.
516
00:38:25,229 --> 00:38:28,981
And I'm just closing my
eyes until it ended and...
517
00:38:30,544 --> 00:38:34,190
and we just... He just went
to sleep like it was nothing.
518
00:38:35,232 --> 00:38:36,829
Can we take a break?
519
00:38:42,767 --> 00:38:47,107
I almost didn't wanna
make it real by writing it down, but...
520
00:38:48,948 --> 00:38:52,838
After that night, this is
what I took away from it.
521
00:38:54,818 --> 00:38:58,915
"Armie wanted total control of
me and absolute compliance,
522
00:39:00,027 --> 00:39:02,840
destroying any sense
of bodily autonomy.
523
00:39:04,298 --> 00:39:06,104
His ultimate fantasy."
524
00:39:10,341 --> 00:39:14,403
After that scenario in Sedona, I
really started to, kind of, unravel.
525
00:39:14,404 --> 00:39:16,487
It didn't sit well with me,
526
00:39:16,488 --> 00:39:20,689
but then it's followed up with
him pulling me even closer.
527
00:39:20,759 --> 00:39:22,593
And being, like, "I want
you to meet my mom,"
528
00:39:23,606 --> 00:39:27,113
which is huge to me.
529
00:39:27,114 --> 00:39:32,114
I think that's a really big
deal, like, it felt like, okay...
530
00:39:32,115 --> 00:39:36,178
You know, I'm just clinging to,
like, little things to make this okay.
531
00:39:39,233 --> 00:39:43,574
The situation with the ropes was
three days before I met his mom.
532
00:39:43,575 --> 00:39:46,908
But at that point, it was kind of
like a Band-Aid on a bullet wound.
533
00:39:46,978 --> 00:39:49,339
There was just, like...
Too much had happened.
534
00:39:50,485 --> 00:39:54,861
We broke up two days
after meeting his mom.
535
00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:07,258
I knew something about him
would come up in the future,
536
00:40:07,327 --> 00:40:09,201
because I know
how careless he is.
537
00:40:09,202 --> 00:40:14,515
I know how he texts, and he just leaves
trails of all his madness everywhere.
538
00:40:39,623 --> 00:40:42,332
I woke up
on the second week of January.
539
00:40:42,333 --> 00:40:44,623
I got my coffee, I sat down.
540
00:40:44,624 --> 00:40:46,812
I started opening up
Twitter and combing through.
541
00:40:48,063 --> 00:40:52,334
My name is Candice Cronkhite
and my IG handle is BBFBravo.
542
00:40:53,689 --> 00:40:56,291
I've always been interested
in anything with pop culture.
543
00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:58,132
I really liked, you know,
544
00:40:58,133 --> 00:41:00,564
deep diving people's backgrounds
and why are they the way that they are,
545
00:41:00,565 --> 00:41:04,732
and curating things that the
public may not know about a person.
546
00:41:05,982 --> 00:41:10,531
I passed by a screenshot
of a DM with the headline,
547
00:41:10,532 --> 00:41:14,108
"Armie Hammer's Ex-Girlfriend
Is Leaking His DM's."
548
00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:24,074
All of these screen grabs
that were pulled on Twitter
549
00:41:24,075 --> 00:41:28,624
were coming from a anonymous
account called houseofeffie.
550
00:41:31,505 --> 00:41:35,187
When I opened up that
first text, it was shocking.
551
00:41:47,655 --> 00:41:52,445
The content that you're reading and
you're like, okay, this is a little kinky,
552
00:41:52,446 --> 00:41:55,571
to progressively getting
darker and darker.
553
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,330
Like, "this is shocking"
to "this is disturbing."
554
00:42:04,358 --> 00:42:11,026
After a couple a text messages, I
would see this one posted by houseofeffie.
555
00:42:31,619 --> 00:42:37,592
You know that there are some kinky things,
or things that you are unfamiliar with,
556
00:42:37,662 --> 00:42:42,556
but the idea that somebody
gets off on raping somebody,
557
00:42:42,557 --> 00:42:46,203
and that is what
they're pretending to do,
558
00:42:46,204 --> 00:42:52,559
it's... It's... I... I
can't... It's just really... Sick.
559
00:42:58,115 --> 00:43:00,095
And so I couldn't stop.
560
00:43:00,164 --> 00:43:04,330
I had to do a story on it, because I
could tell that this was gonna be big.
561
00:43:04,331 --> 00:43:07,769
Armie Hammer has been in
hot water over leaked texts.
562
00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:10,930
Because of the community guidelines,
I'm not going to say what that's about,
563
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,917
but you could head over to my
IG highlights to see for yourself.
564
00:43:15,445 --> 00:43:18,291
Sadly, I saw people laugh it off
565
00:43:18,292 --> 00:43:20,306
and not believe houseofeffie
566
00:43:20,376 --> 00:43:22,390
and give it the
attention it deserves.
567
00:43:33,919 --> 00:43:38,086
In January, I see a message
from the DeuxMoi account,
568
00:43:38,087 --> 00:43:40,101
a gossip account.
569
00:43:40,170 --> 00:43:42,712
She knew that Armie and I had
been together in a relationship,
570
00:43:43,851 --> 00:43:46,804
because my name had
already been leaked...
571
00:43:48,087 --> 00:43:50,762
and so, DeuxMoi
would talk about it.
572
00:43:52,186 --> 00:43:56,457
The DeuxMoi account was
posting these screenshots
573
00:43:56,526 --> 00:43:59,130
from an account
called houseofeffie,
574
00:43:59,131 --> 00:44:02,777
and they were really
sexually violent messages.
575
00:44:04,062 --> 00:44:06,007
So, she messaged me...
576
00:44:07,777 --> 00:44:08,855
"Is this true?"
577
00:44:10,557 --> 00:44:12,257
I know how this man speaks.
578
00:44:12,258 --> 00:44:15,314
I could write a text for him,
I've seen them a million times.
579
00:44:15,384 --> 00:44:19,446
I know the language he
uses, punctuation he uses.
580
00:44:22,017 --> 00:44:23,613
He always used the word kitten.
581
00:44:25,524 --> 00:44:27,260
He'd be like, "hi,
my little kitten."
582
00:44:28,198 --> 00:44:31,600
That was very common.
583
00:44:31,601 --> 00:44:34,379
The messages that
House of Effie was showing,
584
00:44:35,317 --> 00:44:38,962
he said this exact
same word to me.
585
00:44:38,963 --> 00:44:41,213
You know, I was like, "that's
100% true, that's Armie."
586
00:44:52,264 --> 00:44:53,651
At that point,
587
00:44:53,652 --> 00:44:58,098
I just wanted to validate
what houseofeffie was saying.
588
00:45:13,968 --> 00:45:17,787
The next morning,
my life just blew up.
589
00:45:19,247 --> 00:45:22,059
Armie Hammer's
ex-girlfriend, Courtney Vucekovich...
590
00:45:22,060 --> 00:45:23,587
Courtney
Vucekovich has come forward
591
00:45:23,588 --> 00:45:25,912
with claims against
her ex, Armie Hammer...
592
00:45:25,913 --> 00:45:28,309
Once Courtney
was willing to go on the record,
593
00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:30,984
this story blew wide open.
594
00:45:30,985 --> 00:45:35,290
It was about abuse and
power and gaslighting.
595
00:45:36,645 --> 00:45:39,701
He said things like he wanted
to barbecue and eat her.
596
00:45:41,854 --> 00:45:43,831
What is
happening with Armie Hammer?
597
00:45:43,832 --> 00:45:46,889
Disturbing and racy
messages allegedly sent to women
598
00:45:46,958 --> 00:45:50,881
by the actor Armie Hammer
are trending on Twitter.
599
00:45:50,882 --> 00:45:54,668
Shocking DMs allegedly
from Armie Hammer's public accounts
600
00:45:54,738 --> 00:45:58,001
are going viral on social media.
601
00:45:58,002 --> 00:46:01,370
His sexually graphic
texts and DMs are dominating.
602
00:46:01,439 --> 00:46:05,605
BDSM and even
cannibalism began trending.
603
00:46:05,606 --> 00:46:07,898
I think this specific
one that she posted
604
00:46:07,899 --> 00:46:10,296
really shocked people.
605
00:46:13,003 --> 00:46:15,400
I mean, he said, "I'm
100% a cannibal."
606
00:46:18,143 --> 00:46:20,052
He's, like, "fuck, it feels
weird even saying that,"
607
00:46:20,053 --> 00:46:22,589
and I can picture him
saying that so vividly.
608
00:46:27,034 --> 00:46:30,610
And then he said that he shot
a deer and then ate its heart.
609
00:46:40,855 --> 00:46:43,042
There's this whole, then,
darker underbelly that just starts
610
00:46:43,043 --> 00:46:46,029
getting you sicker and sicker.
611
00:46:46,030 --> 00:46:49,466
He's talking about
wanting to eat flesh.
612
00:46:49,467 --> 00:46:52,592
Really, really, really
horrific things and imagery.
613
00:46:57,107 --> 00:46:58,878
Where does this end?
Where does this go?
614
00:47:02,108 --> 00:47:05,580
At this point people were just
running with the cannibalism.
615
00:47:13,742 --> 00:47:17,422
Nobody cared about
anything except the word cannibal.
616
00:47:17,423 --> 00:47:21,242
Pretending like it was all a
joke didn't sit well with me
617
00:47:21,243 --> 00:47:23,014
because it wasn't a joke.
618
00:47:26,903 --> 00:47:28,222
Now it's entertainment.
619
00:47:28,223 --> 00:47:31,661
Now we're, like, we're leaned in
620
00:47:31,731 --> 00:47:34,369
waiting to see how dark this is.
621
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:36,869
While the DMs remain unverified,
622
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:39,300
the stories have kept coming in.
623
00:47:39,301 --> 00:47:42,947
Once Courtney came forward,
other women started coming forward.
624
00:47:43,885 --> 00:47:48,433
One of them was
the writer, Jessica.
625
00:47:48,434 --> 00:47:51,974
She had said, "if anyone's
questioning whether these DMs are real,
626
00:47:51,975 --> 00:47:53,434
I'm here to tell
you that they are."
627
00:47:56,143 --> 00:47:58,643
Paige Lorenze
was another woman involved
628
00:47:58,644 --> 00:48:00,205
with Armie Hammer.
629
00:48:00,206 --> 00:48:04,721
She told her whole story
and she did not hold back.
630
00:48:04,791 --> 00:48:07,291
He kind of just took me in
under his wing and he really
631
00:48:08,333 --> 00:48:10,208
was so all-consuming,
632
00:48:10,278 --> 00:48:12,916
and he made me feel
like it was a safe space,
633
00:48:12,917 --> 00:48:14,166
made me feel like
this was normal,
634
00:48:14,167 --> 00:48:17,083
he made me feel like this
was gonna be fun and sexy,
635
00:48:17,084 --> 00:48:21,041
but I think he used BDSM
as, like, a smokescreen,
636
00:48:21,042 --> 00:48:24,376
ultimately, to hurt women
and inflict pain on women,
637
00:48:24,377 --> 00:48:25,801
which is the scariest part.
638
00:48:27,502 --> 00:48:31,286
Hollywood is a very
business-oriented industry,
639
00:48:31,287 --> 00:48:35,385
and now after Me Too
happened and Time's Up,
640
00:48:35,386 --> 00:48:38,023
nobody is taking a
chance on anybody.
641
00:48:38,025 --> 00:48:39,586
The actor Armie Hammer
642
00:48:39,587 --> 00:48:42,469
has been dropped from the
upcoming film Shotgun Wedding,
643
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:45,247
which he was due to be starring
in opposite Jennifer Lopez.
644
00:48:45,317 --> 00:48:47,017
Armie said in a statement,
645
00:48:47,018 --> 00:48:49,900
"in light of the vicious and
spurious online attacks against me,
646
00:48:49,901 --> 00:48:52,399
I cannot in good conscience
now leave my children
647
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,379
for four months
to shoot a film."
648
00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:58,964
As soon as allegations start to
come out that seem to have substance,
649
00:48:58,965 --> 00:49:01,360
they're dropping
you like a hot potato.
650
00:49:01,361 --> 00:49:05,528
WME immediately
dropped Armie Hammer.
651
00:49:05,598 --> 00:49:08,723
Armie Hammer has
been fighting for his career
652
00:49:08,724 --> 00:49:11,258
after being plagued by
a social media scandal.
653
00:49:18,551 --> 00:49:20,286
It was always talking about how,
654
00:49:20,287 --> 00:49:22,718
"what is Armie going to
do? He lost this movie deal."
655
00:49:24,593 --> 00:49:26,712
Nobody was talking
about the victims.
656
00:49:26,780 --> 00:49:30,219
I just felt like I couldn't
leave the story alone.
657
00:49:32,788 --> 00:49:35,114
I really wanted to figure
out more about him.
658
00:49:35,115 --> 00:49:38,171
Wondering what different
things has he dropped
659
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,526
that we have all been missing.
660
00:49:41,783 --> 00:49:44,699
The first thing I
saw was a interview,
661
00:49:44,701 --> 00:49:49,006
one where he was talking about
tying a rope within 30 seconds...
662
00:49:49,076 --> 00:49:51,285
People get thrilled when
you pull out rope at a party.
663
00:49:51,334 --> 00:49:52,376
Uh...
664
00:49:52,377 --> 00:49:55,222
and it was, like,
"hmm, that's weird."
665
00:49:55,223 --> 00:49:58,034
You look through the Twitter,
you look through Instagram,
666
00:49:58,035 --> 00:50:00,848
you look at who he's
following on Instagram,
667
00:50:00,849 --> 00:50:02,723
He followed a lot
of shibari accounts,
668
00:50:02,724 --> 00:50:06,160
which is a form of
Japanese bondage.
669
00:50:06,161 --> 00:50:09,216
A lot of women in
suggestive poses.
670
00:50:09,218 --> 00:50:13,419
And then there was
an article on Playboy.
671
00:50:15,121 --> 00:50:18,037
Armie Hammer in Playboy said
672
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,608
he likes rough sex,
he likes to pull hair.
673
00:50:20,609 --> 00:50:23,906
Maybe a bit of choking, but
he would never do it to his wife
674
00:50:23,907 --> 00:50:25,470
because he respects
her too much.
675
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,539
I found DMs
that were showing more texts
676
00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:33,283
and more and more
and more content
677
00:50:33,352 --> 00:50:38,144
relating to him being
involved in the BDSM world.
678
00:50:38,146 --> 00:50:40,680
At that point I was
just confused about it
679
00:50:40,749 --> 00:50:41,916
beyond Fifty Shades of Grey.
680
00:50:43,874 --> 00:50:45,611
Soon enough, I found out that
681
00:50:45,612 --> 00:50:47,973
if you set these
pre-determined boundaries
682
00:50:48,042 --> 00:50:50,161
and they're crossed
over and over again,
683
00:50:50,231 --> 00:50:51,411
that is a problem.
684
00:51:00,961 --> 00:51:02,454
The more research
that I've done,
685
00:51:02,523 --> 00:51:04,433
the more I found that
these things that he did
686
00:51:04,434 --> 00:51:07,835
are actually not BDSM,
but he's calling them BDSM.
687
00:51:07,836 --> 00:51:11,587
But it's actually just
unsafe, um, behavior
688
00:51:11,588 --> 00:51:13,914
that would, you know,
normally be criminal.
689
00:51:16,276 --> 00:51:20,061
When I looked into it, you could
clearly tell this was not BDSM.
690
00:51:20,964 --> 00:51:22,006
It was getting darker.
691
00:51:22,735 --> 00:51:24,505
This looked like abuse.
692
00:51:28,986 --> 00:51:33,362
And then Effie of Instagram
account houseofeffie came forward.
693
00:51:33,431 --> 00:51:36,902
She had hired famed
attorney, Gloria Allred,
694
00:51:36,903 --> 00:51:38,536
who's known for
advocating for women.
695
00:51:39,508 --> 00:51:42,215
Effie is 24 years old,
696
00:51:42,216 --> 00:51:44,508
and she lives in Europe.
697
00:51:44,509 --> 00:51:49,508
She had a romantic and an intimate
relationship with Armie Hammer
698
00:51:49,509 --> 00:51:54,612
on and off between 2016 to 2020.
699
00:51:54,614 --> 00:51:59,199
Effie issued a statement that
was an absolute bombshell.
700
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:06,038
I'm attorney Gloria Allred.
701
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:09,407
I'm a women's rights
attorney in Los Angeles.
702
00:52:09,408 --> 00:52:11,977
I'm a partner in a law firm.
703
00:52:11,978 --> 00:52:15,798
I deal with many victims
of rape, sexual assault...
704
00:52:17,326 --> 00:52:18,541
and sexual harassment.
705
00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:27,362
I do represent Effie.
706
00:52:27,432 --> 00:52:31,042
Victims need to have
support if they're going to...
707
00:52:31,043 --> 00:52:33,857
come forward against a
rich, powerful, famous figure.
708
00:52:35,348 --> 00:52:36,982
They shouldn't
have to do it alone.
709
00:52:38,474 --> 00:52:41,461
Doing it alone is
dangerous, it's frightening.
710
00:52:43,059 --> 00:52:44,934
This is not for
the faint of heart.
711
00:52:49,657 --> 00:52:53,476
I met Armie Hammer
on Facebook in 2016
712
00:52:53,477 --> 00:52:55,039
when I was 20 years old.
713
00:52:57,122 --> 00:52:59,518
The relationship
progressed rapidly
714
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,090
and the emotions from both
sides became really intense.
715
00:53:03,687 --> 00:53:06,498
He would often test
my devotion to him
716
00:53:06,499 --> 00:53:09,519
by removing and
crossing my boundaries
717
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,603
as he became
increasingly more violent.
718
00:53:13,791 --> 00:53:17,890
He abused me mentally,
emotionally and sexually.
719
00:53:24,419 --> 00:53:26,814
How can you see somebody...
720
00:53:26,815 --> 00:53:30,045
breaking down like
that and not feel for it...
721
00:53:31,086 --> 00:53:34,003
and, oh, it was hard to watch.
722
00:53:39,491 --> 00:53:43,276
On April 24th, 2017,
Armie Hammer...
723
00:53:45,568 --> 00:53:49,805
violently raped me for over
four hours in Los Angeles...
724
00:53:51,506 --> 00:53:55,499
during which he repeatedly
slapped my head against a wall
725
00:53:55,568 --> 00:53:56,610
bruising my face.
726
00:53:58,693 --> 00:54:00,256
During those four hours,
727
00:54:00,257 --> 00:54:03,000
I tried to get away,
but he wouldn't let me.
728
00:54:07,376 --> 00:54:11,021
The way that she was
speaking through her story
729
00:54:11,022 --> 00:54:16,613
through tears, and her conviction
about what she had been through,
730
00:54:16,614 --> 00:54:19,114
I just thought, you know,
every woman thinks,
731
00:54:19,184 --> 00:54:20,815
"oh, God, that could
have been me,"
732
00:54:20,885 --> 00:54:23,696
you know, and it's been
really close to being me,
733
00:54:23,697 --> 00:54:26,128
and in other situations,
it has been me.
734
00:54:26,198 --> 00:54:29,150
So, I was really grateful,
735
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:33,665
um, for what she had done in
her bravery of coming forward.
736
00:54:35,749 --> 00:54:39,323
She came
forward and told everything...
737
00:54:39,324 --> 00:54:42,034
He also committed other
acts of violence against me
738
00:54:42,104 --> 00:54:43,597
to which I did not consent.
739
00:54:52,244 --> 00:54:56,097
And it launched a police
investigation within the LAPD.
740
00:54:56,098 --> 00:54:59,917
The actor Armie Hammer
has been confirmed as the suspect
741
00:54:59,918 --> 00:55:02,139
in an alleged
sexual assault case
742
00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:04,327
by the Los Angeles
Police Department.
743
00:55:04,328 --> 00:55:07,279
Right now, Armie's
being represented by Andrew Brettler
744
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,995
who's known for his
defense of people accused
745
00:55:10,996 --> 00:55:13,357
of sexual abuse or
sexual misconduct,
746
00:55:13,358 --> 00:55:16,828
and that seemed a
very strategic move.
747
00:55:16,829 --> 00:55:20,059
And in a statement vehemently
denied any wrongdoing
748
00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:21,206
on behalf of his client.
749
00:55:22,769 --> 00:55:25,476
I know his attorney well,
750
00:55:25,477 --> 00:55:27,353
we've had many cases...
751
00:55:29,054 --> 00:55:32,665
against that firm, and I
have said many years ago
752
00:55:32,666 --> 00:55:34,228
and it's still true today,
753
00:55:34,229 --> 00:55:36,972
that firm represents
Hollywood bad boys...
754
00:55:38,465 --> 00:55:40,167
and I represent
the women they hurt.
755
00:55:44,854 --> 00:55:47,945
Even in BDSM relationships,
756
00:55:48,883 --> 00:55:51,105
consent is still
at the heart of it.
757
00:56:01,837 --> 00:56:05,900
It doesn't mean that
anyone can do anything...
758
00:56:06,976 --> 00:56:10,066
to anyone during
a sexual relationship.
759
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:13,018
If she withdraws her consent,
760
00:56:13,087 --> 00:56:15,693
and he continues,
that's a crime.
761
00:56:16,839 --> 00:56:18,192
Simple as that.
762
00:56:19,478 --> 00:56:21,735
Kinky is not against the law.
763
00:56:22,291 --> 00:56:23,611
Rape is.
764
00:56:30,174 --> 00:56:32,535
I do think
a lot of women and men
765
00:56:32,536 --> 00:56:34,964
can relate to engaging
with somebody
766
00:56:34,965 --> 00:56:37,361
who presented themselves
767
00:56:37,362 --> 00:56:40,418
in an almost too good to
be true way in the beginning
768
00:56:40,488 --> 00:56:43,404
that was really just
a manipulation tactic
769
00:56:43,405 --> 00:56:45,489
that led to really bad behavior.
770
00:56:46,252 --> 00:56:48,092
My name is Lauren Skae,
771
00:56:48,093 --> 00:56:50,350
I go by the Zen
Blonde on social media.
772
00:56:51,844 --> 00:56:53,753
Okay, so, Armie's
lawyers have spoken,
773
00:56:53,823 --> 00:56:55,246
and they called these
claims outrageous
774
00:56:55,247 --> 00:56:58,025
and said that all of his
encounters were consensual.
775
00:56:58,095 --> 00:57:00,317
So, I saw the Armie
Hammer case unfolding,
776
00:57:00,387 --> 00:57:03,234
and in hearing all these
stories, I wanted to amplify them
777
00:57:03,304 --> 00:57:06,949
because I wanted to
push them towards justice.
778
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:08,825
I had so many tips coming in,
779
00:57:08,895 --> 00:57:10,595
and it wasn't just
tips about Armie,
780
00:57:10,596 --> 00:57:12,610
it was tips about
the whole family.
781
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,763
Armie Hammer's not
only a famous actor,
782
00:57:14,764 --> 00:57:18,028
but a famous actor whose
family is an institution.
783
00:57:18,097 --> 00:57:20,804
And then, eventually,
my friend tipped me off
784
00:57:20,805 --> 00:57:24,140
that the Hammer family was crazy
and that there were a few books about it.
785
00:57:25,494 --> 00:57:28,724
Casey Hammer is
Armie Hammer's aunt.
786
00:57:28,794 --> 00:57:30,598
I found Casey's book on Audible,
787
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:34,661
so I downloaded it, and
immediately started listening to it,
788
00:57:34,662 --> 00:57:38,724
and literally, like, could not
believe what I was hearing.
789
00:57:38,725 --> 00:57:39,950
"That is when I understood
790
00:57:39,975 --> 00:57:41,885
that the red down
her front was blood.
791
00:57:42,997 --> 00:57:46,399
She was screaming
for my father to stop.
792
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,907
I could see pain and fear
shooting out from her eyes.
793
00:57:49,976 --> 00:57:51,991
I heard her voice in my head,
794
00:57:52,059 --> 00:57:53,866
'Run! Run!'
795
00:57:54,839 --> 00:57:56,644
I was paralyzed with fear."
796
00:57:58,936 --> 00:58:01,435
I was so infuriated by the book.
797
00:58:01,436 --> 00:58:04,456
For me, like, just
observing it from afar,
798
00:58:04,457 --> 00:58:08,623
it seemed like it was a
multi-generational trend.
799
00:58:08,624 --> 00:58:12,272
That very, like,
wealthy, privileged men
800
00:58:12,341 --> 00:58:17,689
got away with different bad
things throughout these generations.
801
00:58:17,759 --> 00:58:19,772
And then I'm on
Google, and I'm, like,
802
00:58:19,773 --> 00:58:21,334
"I can't be the one
that tied this together,
803
00:58:21,335 --> 00:58:22,873
I can't be the one
that tied this together,
804
00:58:22,898 --> 00:58:26,024
this has to be something that's
known, I'm just late to the story."
805
00:58:26,093 --> 00:58:28,107
And then realizing
that nobody knows this
806
00:58:28,177 --> 00:58:29,704
and then feeling like...
807
00:58:30,746 --> 00:58:32,378
I need to put this
out immediately,
808
00:58:32,379 --> 00:58:34,670
this needs to immediately
become part of the narrative.
809
00:58:36,649 --> 00:58:38,386
I'm gonna let everyone
catch up with the Armie stuff,
810
00:58:38,387 --> 00:58:41,233
but I have a new development, his
aunt wrote a book about their family.
811
00:58:41,234 --> 00:58:43,630
And let me tell you the
stuff didn't start with Armie.
812
00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:47,066
He is the great grandson of
Armand Hammer, an oil tycoon.
813
00:58:47,067 --> 00:58:50,887
His son, Julian, who would be
Armie's grandfather, was insane.
814
00:58:50,888 --> 00:58:53,631
He beat the living
daylights out of his wife.
815
00:58:53,632 --> 00:58:56,027
I posted everything
in rapid succession
816
00:58:56,028 --> 00:58:58,007
as I was still
listening to the book.
817
00:58:59,534 --> 00:59:01,306
The first video
started going viral,
818
00:59:01,307 --> 00:59:03,251
and then everyone
jumped to the videos after,
819
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,174
and some people were
literally watching them live.
820
00:59:07,175 --> 00:59:10,820
She ended up finding photos of
her dad, again, Armie's grandfather,
821
00:59:10,821 --> 00:59:12,974
watching as one
of the housekeepers
822
00:59:12,975 --> 00:59:14,676
performed a sexual
act on another man.
823
00:59:14,711 --> 00:59:18,843
I have to say, like, things
exploded on TikTok really quickly.
824
00:59:19,607 --> 00:59:21,135
It grew overnight.
825
00:59:23,011 --> 00:59:25,093
When it started
going viral, I was, like,
826
00:59:25,094 --> 00:59:27,004
"oh, no, this is a real human,
827
00:59:27,074 --> 00:59:29,324
I should have maybe alerted
her that I was doing this."
828
00:59:33,325 --> 00:59:36,866
I remember
someone texted me and said,
829
00:59:36,867 --> 00:59:39,679
"someone's blowing
you up on TikTok."
830
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,762
I remember pulling up that video
831
00:59:41,763 --> 00:59:45,373
and I was watching
comments on the screen.
832
00:59:45,374 --> 00:59:48,395
Things like, "are
you sure it's his aunt?
833
00:59:48,397 --> 00:59:50,306
Did anybody do a DNA test?"
834
00:59:51,035 --> 00:59:52,494
I mean, it makes sense.
835
00:59:53,432 --> 00:59:55,341
I had been erased
from the family.
836
00:59:56,627 --> 01:00:00,201
She actually
reposted me on Instagram.
837
01:00:00,202 --> 01:00:02,773
She said, "I don't know
who you are, but thank you."
838
01:00:02,774 --> 01:00:05,272
Part of me was kind of pleased
839
01:00:05,273 --> 01:00:07,913
because the world
was finding out,
840
01:00:07,983 --> 01:00:09,302
and the other part of me was...
841
01:00:10,656 --> 01:00:12,460
"oh, my God, I'm dead.
842
01:00:12,461 --> 01:00:14,060
My brother's gonna
fucking kill me."
843
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:19,547
What Armie is experiencing...
844
01:00:20,796 --> 01:00:23,470
came from, I'm convinced...
845
01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:26,247
maybe even further
back than my grandfather.
846
01:00:26,248 --> 01:00:28,263
Because you just
don't wake up...
847
01:00:29,409 --> 01:00:31,979
and become this dark...
848
01:00:33,229 --> 01:00:36,249
controller, abuser.
849
01:00:36,250 --> 01:00:38,645
There has to be a
seed that's planted.
850
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,625
My grandfather
built an oil empire.
851
01:00:45,626 --> 01:00:47,813
He had politicians
in his back pocket,
852
01:00:47,814 --> 01:00:49,688
so, he never took
no for an answer.
853
01:00:49,689 --> 01:00:51,773
His life was all about secrets.
854
01:00:53,370 --> 01:00:56,183
My father had loaded
guns all over the house.
855
01:00:56,878 --> 01:00:58,648
He used to shoot at me.
856
01:00:58,649 --> 01:01:00,385
It was terrifying.
857
01:01:01,879 --> 01:01:04,065
That's the sign
of a true monster.
858
01:01:04,067 --> 01:01:07,815
You can look in the
mirror and not see any fault
859
01:01:07,816 --> 01:01:09,379
or that you're doing
anything wrong.
860
01:01:09,380 --> 01:01:12,504
And that's how deep
it goes with my brother,
861
01:01:12,505 --> 01:01:16,394
and that's why he's so scary
because he has no conscience.
862
01:01:17,784 --> 01:01:19,971
Now, it's Armie.
863
01:01:19,972 --> 01:01:24,345
Every generation in my family
has been involved in dark misdeeds,
864
01:01:24,346 --> 01:01:27,958
and it just gets worse
and worse and worse.
865
01:01:28,028 --> 01:01:32,195
There's so much beneath the surface
that now is finally coming to light.
866
01:01:34,661 --> 01:01:37,889
My name is Casey Hammer,
and I'm about to reveal
867
01:01:37,890 --> 01:01:40,704
the dark twisted secrets
of the Hammer family.
70230
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