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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,685 --> 00:00:13,947 My grandfather lived in Holmby Hills, 2 00:00:13,948 --> 00:00:15,892 which is the neighborhood 3 00:00:15,893 --> 00:00:19,432 right between Wilshire Boulevard and Sunset 4 00:00:19,433 --> 00:00:21,238 in Westwood. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,913 It's the elite of the elite. 6 00:00:26,204 --> 00:00:30,093 And now, we're gonna come up on the right side, 7 00:00:30,162 --> 00:00:31,863 is my grandfather's house. 8 00:00:32,905 --> 00:00:34,779 There's his house, 9 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:37,139 and we would park right here in front, 10 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:40,161 and then we would get up and race up the stairs. 11 00:00:42,696 --> 00:00:45,473 And that front window was Grandpa's office. 12 00:00:47,279 --> 00:00:49,883 As president of Occidental Petroleum, 13 00:00:49,952 --> 00:00:53,804 Armand Hammer turned it into the 11th largest oil company 14 00:00:53,805 --> 00:00:56,097 in the United States. 15 00:00:56,098 --> 00:00:59,431 The Hammer name wielded a lot of prestige and power. 16 00:01:00,264 --> 00:01:02,346 And the two grandchildren, 17 00:01:02,347 --> 00:01:06,130 Michael and Casey, would you please stand up? 18 00:01:06,131 --> 00:01:09,360 We were always hanging out with royalty at these parties, 19 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:11,407 and we would get training, 20 00:01:11,408 --> 00:01:16,511 and we would learn how to address the royalty. 21 00:01:16,512 --> 00:01:20,053 It was just this kind of secret society, 22 00:01:20,054 --> 00:01:23,073 kind of inner circle of the elite. 23 00:01:23,075 --> 00:01:26,129 How on Earth do they expect us 24 00:01:26,199 --> 00:01:28,108 to get anything done 25 00:01:28,838 --> 00:01:30,192 without money? 26 00:01:32,032 --> 00:01:35,191 People were so curious about that lifestyle, 27 00:01:35,260 --> 00:01:36,823 about all that wealth. 28 00:01:39,115 --> 00:01:42,654 On the outside, we were a perfect family. 29 00:01:42,655 --> 00:01:45,294 - Hi, Casey! - Come on in. 30 00:01:46,406 --> 00:01:47,621 Watch your step. 31 00:01:52,065 --> 00:01:55,049 But beneath it all was a dark world of deceit, 32 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:56,648 betrayal, and corruption... 33 00:01:59,009 --> 00:02:01,092 and that's why I'm coming forward now. 34 00:02:02,654 --> 00:02:04,738 It's time to stop the cycle. 35 00:02:51,226 --> 00:02:55,774 So, this is a picture of the Hammer family, 36 00:02:55,775 --> 00:03:01,502 and there's my father, Julian. 37 00:03:01,503 --> 00:03:03,482 I'm standing behind him. 38 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:05,912 You have my brother, Michael, 39 00:03:06,746 --> 00:03:08,689 and then, in the center of the shot 40 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:10,147 is my grandfather, 41 00:03:11,016 --> 00:03:12,995 and he's holding Armie. 42 00:03:16,432 --> 00:03:19,974 How did Armie Hammer go from Hollywood golden boy 43 00:03:20,043 --> 00:03:21,119 to an alleged abuser 44 00:03:21,189 --> 00:03:23,167 in the space of one evening in January? 45 00:03:23,168 --> 00:03:25,459 When all this came out about Armie, 46 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:26,848 I was not shocked. 47 00:03:26,917 --> 00:03:28,999 Sexually graphic texts and DMs 48 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,910 of dominating, BDSM, 49 00:03:30,979 --> 00:03:33,098 and even cannibalism began trending. 50 00:03:33,166 --> 00:03:36,431 This behavior, it's deep-rooted. 51 00:03:47,854 --> 00:03:49,830 My father, Julian Hammer, 52 00:03:49,832 --> 00:03:51,533 is Armie's grandfather. 53 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:55,456 When my mother met my father, 54 00:03:55,457 --> 00:03:57,331 they ended up in Tijuana, 55 00:03:57,332 --> 00:03:59,205 drunk on the back of a motorcycle, 56 00:03:59,206 --> 00:04:01,079 and getting married. 57 00:04:01,081 --> 00:04:02,782 And my mother had no idea 58 00:04:02,852 --> 00:04:06,011 that my father was Armand Hammer's son. 59 00:04:06,081 --> 00:04:09,516 Had no idea about the wealth, had no idea about any of it. 60 00:04:09,517 --> 00:04:12,990 And then, when my father got married, 61 00:04:13,060 --> 00:04:14,413 my grandfather decided 62 00:04:14,414 --> 00:04:16,496 that my father needed to be responsible 63 00:04:16,497 --> 00:04:18,268 now that he had a wife. 64 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,031 I was born in 1960. 65 00:04:24,864 --> 00:04:26,807 We moved to Pacific Palisades, 66 00:04:26,808 --> 00:04:28,822 which was near the coast in California. 67 00:04:31,322 --> 00:04:34,100 But my father was such a mess. 68 00:04:35,037 --> 00:04:36,564 He was always drunk, 69 00:04:36,598 --> 00:04:40,037 and you just never knew what kind of condition he was in. 70 00:04:42,779 --> 00:04:45,140 There was a lot going on behind closed doors. 71 00:05:01,285 --> 00:05:04,305 Christmases were probably my favorite time of year. 72 00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:06,387 It was a big deal. 73 00:05:06,388 --> 00:05:08,193 It was like a department store. 74 00:05:08,263 --> 00:05:10,970 We all got piles and piles of Christmas presents. 75 00:05:12,881 --> 00:05:14,720 That's my brother, Michael, 76 00:05:14,721 --> 00:05:16,074 Armie's father... 77 00:05:17,429 --> 00:05:20,172 and there he is, riding a little motorcycle. 78 00:05:24,095 --> 00:05:26,387 I should be somewhere in there. 79 00:05:31,316 --> 00:05:33,574 I remember one year, it was Christmas Eve. 80 00:05:34,198 --> 00:05:36,316 I was young, maybe five, 81 00:05:36,386 --> 00:05:38,503 and I still believed in Santa Claus. 82 00:05:41,176 --> 00:05:42,670 After I had gone to bed, 83 00:05:42,739 --> 00:05:44,128 I heard screaming. 84 00:05:45,968 --> 00:05:48,988 My father and mother were fighting, 85 00:05:48,989 --> 00:05:51,522 and he was threatening to kill her. 86 00:05:55,758 --> 00:05:59,299 My father slapped my mom really hard, 87 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,939 and I just remember seeing blood splatter. 88 00:06:02,738 --> 00:06:04,507 She made me go back to my room 89 00:06:04,508 --> 00:06:06,486 and told me that everything was gonna be okay, 90 00:06:06,487 --> 00:06:08,674 and if I didn't go right to sleep, 91 00:06:08,675 --> 00:06:10,340 Santa Claus wasn't gonna come. 92 00:06:12,979 --> 00:06:14,505 As a little girl, 93 00:06:14,506 --> 00:06:19,609 when you're seeing your mom get beat up by your father, 94 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:23,187 and blood running down the front of her body, 95 00:06:23,985 --> 00:06:25,130 and her screaming, 96 00:06:25,132 --> 00:06:26,965 you don't really understand what's happening. 97 00:06:28,256 --> 00:06:29,609 I can't tell you how many times 98 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:32,421 I would get under my covers as a little girl 99 00:06:32,423 --> 00:06:34,714 and put my fingers in my ears and sing... 100 00:06:35,894 --> 00:06:38,150 because I didn't wanna hear the noise. 101 00:06:38,151 --> 00:06:40,894 I didn't wanna hear the screaming... 102 00:06:42,213 --> 00:06:44,088 because you can't make it stop. 103 00:06:51,379 --> 00:06:54,399 As we got older, my father... 104 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,379 He just got worse and worse and worse. 105 00:07:01,066 --> 00:07:02,627 In the middle of the night, 106 00:07:02,628 --> 00:07:04,919 my mom would collect me, 107 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,557 and we would grab what we could 108 00:07:07,558 --> 00:07:09,710 and get in the car and drive down the hill 109 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,724 and go to a motel... 110 00:07:13,876 --> 00:07:16,585 and wait until the sun came up... 111 00:07:19,953 --> 00:07:22,035 until my father cooled down, 112 00:07:22,036 --> 00:07:23,668 and then we would go back to the house. 113 00:07:25,265 --> 00:07:26,619 That happened a lot. 114 00:07:29,084 --> 00:07:30,645 It always escalated. 115 00:07:30,646 --> 00:07:32,764 You didn't know what was gonna happen next. 116 00:07:35,472 --> 00:07:37,868 My mom had been threatening to leave. 117 00:07:37,937 --> 00:07:40,680 But my grandfather always said, 118 00:07:40,750 --> 00:07:42,971 "If you leave my son, 119 00:07:42,972 --> 00:07:45,957 I'll ruin you and make your life miserable," 120 00:07:45,958 --> 00:07:47,206 and, you know, 121 00:07:47,207 --> 00:07:48,665 "You won't have a penny." 122 00:07:48,666 --> 00:07:51,200 My grandfather had very powerful attorneys back then. 123 00:07:53,145 --> 00:07:56,268 The public persona turned into, 124 00:07:56,269 --> 00:07:58,976 "I can take everything away from you 125 00:07:58,977 --> 00:08:01,061 with one stroke of the pen." 126 00:08:02,102 --> 00:08:06,477 So it was a frightening, scary energy 127 00:08:07,136 --> 00:08:08,907 that my grandfather had. 128 00:08:10,225 --> 00:08:13,871 The Hammer family name had to be pristine. 129 00:08:13,872 --> 00:08:17,343 You couldn't be the reason for the black mark. 130 00:08:17,344 --> 00:08:19,494 While my grandfather was alive, 131 00:08:19,495 --> 00:08:22,239 you played by his rules, or you got cut off. 132 00:08:25,954 --> 00:08:29,426 We were taught that Big Brother's always watching. 133 00:08:29,496 --> 00:08:31,682 You can't get away from it. 134 00:08:31,683 --> 00:08:36,613 My grandfather had files on anybody you dated or any of your friends. 135 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:41,368 You would pick up your phone to talk to someone, 136 00:08:41,369 --> 00:08:43,071 and you would hear a click, 137 00:08:43,140 --> 00:08:44,807 and you knew you were being recorded. 138 00:08:46,924 --> 00:08:49,596 You didn't make a move without thinking about, 139 00:08:49,597 --> 00:08:52,409 "What if Grandpa finds out?" 140 00:08:52,410 --> 00:08:55,430 Casey's grandfather controlled his family. 141 00:08:55,431 --> 00:08:57,410 He controlled everything. 142 00:08:58,451 --> 00:09:01,298 That has to be scary, 143 00:09:01,368 --> 00:09:04,805 to know that there are people watching you all the time. 144 00:09:06,193 --> 00:09:07,652 "Walk the straight and narrow. 145 00:09:08,450 --> 00:09:09,491 I see you. 146 00:09:10,221 --> 00:09:12,616 You don't see me, but I see you." 147 00:09:14,526 --> 00:09:17,719 I like to say that our lives were like a chessboard, 148 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,843 and my grandfather basically controlled all the moves. 149 00:09:21,956 --> 00:09:26,087 But I had no idea about half of the things 150 00:09:26,088 --> 00:09:27,407 my grandfather did 151 00:09:28,553 --> 00:09:30,671 and how powerful he really was. 152 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:33,342 Well, look who is here. 153 00:09:33,343 --> 00:09:35,218 He happens to be president and CEO 154 00:09:35,219 --> 00:09:37,197 of Occidental Petroleum in Los Angeles. 155 00:09:37,198 --> 00:09:40,322 Maybe I should say he is also one of the wealthiest men in the world. 156 00:09:40,323 --> 00:09:42,092 Please welcome Dr. Armand Hammer. 157 00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:48,065 My grandfather built an oil empire 158 00:09:48,134 --> 00:09:50,356 that up until his death 159 00:09:50,426 --> 00:09:53,446 was, I believe, the 16th largest company in the world. 160 00:09:53,447 --> 00:09:56,189 Well, that's a pretty good hand for a rich guy. 161 00:09:56,258 --> 00:09:59,417 Everything he touched turned to gold. 162 00:09:59,418 --> 00:10:03,584 I worked for Armand Hammer from 1986 to 1989 163 00:10:03,653 --> 00:10:09,417 as one of his political and media consultants. 164 00:10:09,487 --> 00:10:15,214 And I saw him exercise access around the world 165 00:10:15,215 --> 00:10:18,375 which was unparalleled for a private individual. 166 00:10:19,312 --> 00:10:21,672 He could, at will, 167 00:10:21,673 --> 00:10:23,374 enter the Kremlin. 168 00:10:23,443 --> 00:10:25,526 I help him, he helps me. 169 00:10:25,944 --> 00:10:26,985 It is mutual. 170 00:10:29,069 --> 00:10:32,644 We do not discuss secrets, just business. 171 00:10:32,713 --> 00:10:35,629 Buckingham Palace, the White House... 172 00:10:35,630 --> 00:10:37,608 They were all at his disposal 173 00:10:37,609 --> 00:10:39,901 and at his bidding. 174 00:10:42,401 --> 00:10:43,962 - Mr. Hammer? - Yes? 175 00:10:43,963 --> 00:10:45,871 Oh, this is the President, how are you? 176 00:10:45,872 --> 00:10:49,414 Oh, hello, President Kennedy, I'm glad to hear from you again. 177 00:10:52,711 --> 00:10:55,559 I remember once asking my grandfather 178 00:10:55,628 --> 00:10:58,544 why he wasn't President of the United States, 179 00:10:58,545 --> 00:11:02,085 and he laughed and said there wasn't enough power in it. 180 00:11:03,649 --> 00:11:04,933 I mean, even now, 181 00:11:05,002 --> 00:11:07,398 people are still so fascinated. 182 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:08,995 This stuff didn't start with Armie. 183 00:11:09,065 --> 00:11:11,599 He is the great-grandson of Armand Hammer, 184 00:11:11,669 --> 00:11:13,682 an oil tycoon whose son, Julian, 185 00:11:13,752 --> 00:11:16,251 who would be Armie's grandfather, was insane. 186 00:11:16,252 --> 00:11:18,578 He beat the living daylights out of his wife... 187 00:11:19,792 --> 00:11:23,021 I was definitely pulling in eyeballs, 188 00:11:23,022 --> 00:11:26,563 like, just by sharing the things that I was looking into. 189 00:11:26,564 --> 00:11:28,541 I had so many tips coming in, 190 00:11:28,543 --> 00:11:30,243 and it wasn't just tips about Armie. 191 00:11:30,313 --> 00:11:32,396 It was just tips about the whole family. 192 00:11:34,374 --> 00:11:37,394 By virtue of sharing the story, 193 00:11:37,395 --> 00:11:40,519 Candice and I found each other on Instagram, 194 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,958 and we started talking about the case. 195 00:11:44,895 --> 00:11:47,637 I didn't even know who Armand Hammer was, 196 00:11:47,638 --> 00:11:50,866 and looking into him and his son, 197 00:11:50,867 --> 00:11:52,012 and his son after that, 198 00:11:52,499 --> 00:11:53,956 and then Armie, 199 00:11:53,991 --> 00:11:57,394 it was so many people in this family that had a sort of history. 200 00:11:59,199 --> 00:12:01,803 People were absolutely dumbfounded. 201 00:12:01,873 --> 00:12:03,955 What are the odds that there would be 202 00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:06,558 so many generations of a family 203 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,122 behaving so badly? 204 00:12:09,094 --> 00:12:10,969 What became readily apparent to us 205 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:13,330 was that there was still a lot of things to uncover. 206 00:12:19,267 --> 00:12:23,745 My mom had always said that she stayed with my father as long as she did 207 00:12:23,746 --> 00:12:25,932 because of my grandfather. 208 00:12:25,933 --> 00:12:29,822 So, it was a never-ending cycle for a very long time. 209 00:12:29,891 --> 00:12:33,363 But then finally, I was 11, and she'd had enough, 210 00:12:33,433 --> 00:12:36,037 and we went down the street to the motel... 211 00:12:38,016 --> 00:12:40,307 and this time, we didn't go back. 212 00:12:43,432 --> 00:12:46,070 When my parents got divorced, 213 00:12:46,139 --> 00:12:48,153 my grandfather kept to his word, 214 00:12:48,222 --> 00:12:51,174 and my father destroyed my mother in court. 215 00:12:52,215 --> 00:12:54,575 My father ended up only paying, like, 216 00:12:54,576 --> 00:12:56,868 $200 a month's child support. 217 00:12:58,534 --> 00:13:02,492 My mom said that the biggest regret of her life 218 00:13:02,493 --> 00:13:05,617 was letting Michael decide to stay with my father. 219 00:13:09,922 --> 00:13:13,776 It was a while before my mother let me go down and visit my father. 220 00:13:16,276 --> 00:13:17,734 I just remember, 221 00:13:17,804 --> 00:13:19,572 it was the house I grew up in, 222 00:13:19,573 --> 00:13:21,865 so it was familiar, 223 00:13:21,866 --> 00:13:23,775 but yet, there were tons of people. 224 00:13:26,171 --> 00:13:27,906 It was a lot of drinking... 225 00:13:29,469 --> 00:13:31,344 a lot of smoke-filled rooms, 226 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:34,989 a lot of screaming, a lot of loud music... 227 00:13:36,344 --> 00:13:37,594 a lot of drugs. 228 00:13:39,607 --> 00:13:45,925 He always had, like, 16 or 17-year-old girls around, 229 00:13:45,926 --> 00:13:47,904 not much older than I was, 230 00:13:47,905 --> 00:13:49,502 five or six years older, 231 00:13:49,571 --> 00:13:51,237 and he called them his "housekeepers." 232 00:13:52,281 --> 00:13:54,259 It was code for his girlfriends. 233 00:13:56,168 --> 00:13:57,314 I believe it was... 234 00:13:58,842 --> 00:14:00,090 sexual, in a sense 235 00:14:00,091 --> 00:14:04,674 where they were usually sitting on each other's laps 236 00:14:04,675 --> 00:14:08,146 or kissing or fondling each other. 237 00:14:09,188 --> 00:14:11,547 It was almost like giant orgies. 238 00:14:11,548 --> 00:14:15,229 Michael, my brother, would bring his friends up to party, 239 00:14:15,299 --> 00:14:17,692 and they would hit on them, as well. 240 00:14:17,693 --> 00:14:19,360 The drugs were free-flowing, 241 00:14:19,361 --> 00:14:21,687 so it was a very free atmosphere. 242 00:14:23,631 --> 00:14:25,645 Casey was one of my best friends. 243 00:14:25,715 --> 00:14:27,380 I don't remember 244 00:14:27,381 --> 00:14:30,957 when the first time I met Mike was, 245 00:14:31,652 --> 00:14:32,901 but he was always around. 246 00:14:35,436 --> 00:14:37,379 Casey and I would go to Julian's, 247 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:38,560 her father's house. 248 00:14:39,047 --> 00:14:41,129 As you walk in, 249 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:43,940 there was a big bowl of cocaine 250 00:14:43,941 --> 00:14:47,796 and a very, kind of, "help yourself" attitude. 251 00:14:50,086 --> 00:14:53,524 It was an environment where old men 252 00:14:53,525 --> 00:14:57,309 and young girls and cocaine, and... 253 00:14:58,523 --> 00:15:00,746 It was shocking. 254 00:15:04,149 --> 00:15:05,814 Your parents aren't supposed to do that. 255 00:15:07,724 --> 00:15:09,979 One time at a party, 256 00:15:09,981 --> 00:15:13,314 I had come out of my bedroom the next morning, 257 00:15:13,315 --> 00:15:16,057 and everyone was passed out all over the floor. 258 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:20,500 I remember walking by the couch, 259 00:15:20,501 --> 00:15:26,229 and there were polaroid pictures of one of my father's housekeepers, 260 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:30,500 and at the time, I thought she was eating an ice cream, 261 00:15:30,501 --> 00:15:34,042 because that's what you did when you were little. 262 00:15:36,957 --> 00:15:38,555 I kept looking at the pictures 263 00:15:38,625 --> 00:15:41,055 trying to figure out what was happening, 264 00:15:41,124 --> 00:15:45,393 and that's how I realized that it wasn't an ice cream, 265 00:15:45,394 --> 00:15:47,687 that it was attached to a man. 266 00:15:51,887 --> 00:15:53,310 One of the pictures, 267 00:15:53,311 --> 00:15:56,573 in the background was this figure in the corner, 268 00:15:56,574 --> 00:15:58,449 in a chair, watching. 269 00:16:01,331 --> 00:16:03,761 I recognized that that was my father. 270 00:16:06,990 --> 00:16:08,725 Being born in that family 271 00:16:08,726 --> 00:16:11,538 and watching the behavior, 272 00:16:11,539 --> 00:16:13,969 it was my normal. 273 00:16:14,038 --> 00:16:17,891 I mean, how do you know it's wrong when that's all you know? 274 00:16:17,892 --> 00:16:20,739 So, when my father and my brother 275 00:16:20,808 --> 00:16:24,349 surrounded themselves with young, impressionable women 276 00:16:24,350 --> 00:16:26,537 that would basically do anything that they asked... 277 00:16:27,579 --> 00:16:30,078 that was the mentality I saw. 278 00:16:31,329 --> 00:16:33,724 Women were disposable in the Hammer family. 279 00:16:49,695 --> 00:16:52,784 So, I had to move rooms. 280 00:16:52,785 --> 00:16:54,278 They had to move my room 281 00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:56,220 'cause of some, like, noise complaints or something. 282 00:16:56,221 --> 00:16:59,764 I think they said it was 417. 283 00:17:01,256 --> 00:17:02,819 Oh, here it is. 284 00:17:04,589 --> 00:17:08,095 A major news publication posted a video, 285 00:17:08,096 --> 00:17:11,671 and it showed Armie holding his phone, 286 00:17:11,672 --> 00:17:12,991 walking into his room. 287 00:17:12,992 --> 00:17:15,596 All right, so far, so good. 288 00:17:16,844 --> 00:17:18,962 Uh, that bed looks pretty comfy. 289 00:17:18,963 --> 00:17:23,719 He just glosses over a woman on all fours in lingerie 290 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,218 and goes out and shows out the balcony. 291 00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:28,093 Yeah, boy! 292 00:17:28,095 --> 00:17:29,691 It's like, "Look how much power I have. 293 00:17:29,761 --> 00:17:32,087 I have a lady just sitting right here, 294 00:17:32,157 --> 00:17:34,968 waiting for me to do whatever I ask her to 295 00:17:34,969 --> 00:17:36,322 and she's staying quiet." 296 00:17:42,294 --> 00:17:46,216 I was getting information via DMs 297 00:17:46,217 --> 00:17:48,717 saying that this is his Finsta account, 298 00:17:48,718 --> 00:17:50,419 "el-_destructo-_86." 299 00:17:51,634 --> 00:17:54,548 Finsta just means "fake Instagram." 300 00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:56,527 and these are often used by celebrities 301 00:17:56,528 --> 00:17:57,814 that have a private account 302 00:17:57,884 --> 00:17:59,238 separate from their public ones. 303 00:18:00,591 --> 00:18:02,257 On this private Instagram account, 304 00:18:02,258 --> 00:18:04,792 he basically posted anything he wanted. 305 00:18:04,861 --> 00:18:07,813 Where his public one was very curated, 306 00:18:07,882 --> 00:18:10,729 this one, he was posting videos 307 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,297 of him engaging in sexual things, 308 00:18:13,298 --> 00:18:14,791 him doing drugs. 309 00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:18,749 It was pretty wild. 310 00:18:19,999 --> 00:18:22,464 He really wasn't hiding what he was doing. 311 00:18:24,651 --> 00:18:28,019 He had posted a picture of him on the toilet 312 00:18:28,089 --> 00:18:30,171 with a drug test, saying, 313 00:18:30,172 --> 00:18:34,962 "All negative. My body is a finely tuned toxicant processing unit." 314 00:18:34,963 --> 00:18:39,546 Indicating that he definitely took drugs and he passed a drug test. 315 00:18:39,547 --> 00:18:40,901 Shit's getting weird. 316 00:18:45,587 --> 00:18:46,628 More, one more. 317 00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:51,662 Yep, got it all. 318 00:18:51,663 --> 00:18:56,419 It's just such a reflection of how above the law this man thinks he is, 319 00:18:56,420 --> 00:18:59,440 that he is not only in a car taking drugs 320 00:18:59,441 --> 00:19:00,691 and drinking while driving, 321 00:19:01,350 --> 00:19:02,773 but videotaping it... 322 00:19:04,335 --> 00:19:06,209 and posting it, 323 00:19:06,210 --> 00:19:09,543 because he thinks it's cool to show his friends. 324 00:19:11,002 --> 00:19:12,148 Ah. 325 00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:15,897 It seems like each generation 326 00:19:15,898 --> 00:19:19,577 was impacted with a number of women 327 00:19:19,647 --> 00:19:22,286 who had been wronged by the Hammer family. 328 00:19:22,355 --> 00:19:25,583 Armie, looking up here. Right here, over here for me. 329 00:19:25,584 --> 00:19:28,291 It's hard to imagine one person behaving that badly. 330 00:19:32,042 --> 00:19:34,292 To hear that it's been going on for so many generations 331 00:19:34,332 --> 00:19:35,722 is kind of unimaginable. 332 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:46,934 There we go. 333 00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:49,019 My name is Edward Jay Epstein. 334 00:19:49,783 --> 00:19:50,825 Everything okay? 335 00:19:52,353 --> 00:19:57,074 In 1980, The New York Times came to me 336 00:19:57,144 --> 00:20:00,302 and asked if I wanted to write a profile on Armand Hammer, 337 00:20:00,303 --> 00:20:01,345 so I did. 338 00:20:02,699 --> 00:20:06,136 I began traveling with Armand Hammer. 339 00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:08,635 I went all over the world with him, 340 00:20:08,636 --> 00:20:10,268 got to know him pretty well. 341 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,683 One of the things that intrigued me about Hammer 342 00:20:15,684 --> 00:20:17,558 was that his public persona 343 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:21,725 was purposely divorced from his private activities. 344 00:20:24,746 --> 00:20:29,224 Armand controlled everyone, including women, 345 00:20:29,225 --> 00:20:32,591 and Hammer in his life had three marriages. 346 00:20:32,592 --> 00:20:35,404 Well, you haven't been unlucky in love then? 347 00:20:35,474 --> 00:20:39,117 The first was in Russia with Olga. 348 00:20:39,118 --> 00:20:40,889 She wanted a career in Hollywood 349 00:20:40,890 --> 00:20:42,556 and I was here in New York. 350 00:20:42,557 --> 00:20:43,807 It didn't last. 351 00:20:44,432 --> 00:20:45,473 We were divorced. 352 00:20:46,757 --> 00:20:49,533 The second was with Angela... 353 00:20:49,534 --> 00:20:52,138 Unfortunately, she was an alcoholic, 354 00:20:52,139 --> 00:20:54,741 and after ten years of putting up with her, 355 00:20:54,742 --> 00:20:55,784 I divorced her. 356 00:20:57,035 --> 00:20:59,256 Armand's wife, Angela... 357 00:21:00,992 --> 00:21:05,506 in her divorce testimony, she said that he, 358 00:21:05,576 --> 00:21:09,776 "willfully, maliciously, and deliberately pursued a course of conduct, 359 00:21:09,846 --> 00:21:13,838 employed techniques, tactics and practices 360 00:21:13,908 --> 00:21:18,524 calculated and designed to destroy her will. 361 00:21:18,525 --> 00:21:21,822 He threatened her with serious bodily violence and injury, 362 00:21:21,823 --> 00:21:25,989 and to beat her brains out by brandishing a metal pipe. 363 00:21:29,219 --> 00:21:31,196 'I feared my husband. 364 00:21:31,197 --> 00:21:34,948 He is a master of psychological warfare.'" 365 00:21:38,698 --> 00:21:40,362 My present wife, Frances, 366 00:21:40,363 --> 00:21:43,280 we've been married 31 years and this is the happiest... 367 00:21:43,281 --> 00:21:45,050 31 years of my life. 368 00:21:45,051 --> 00:21:46,551 Well, what's the moral of this story? 369 00:21:47,585 --> 00:21:49,564 Well, we must never give up. 370 00:21:53,835 --> 00:21:57,689 Armand Hammer considered his relations with women 371 00:21:57,758 --> 00:22:00,570 as a means of getting something. 372 00:22:00,571 --> 00:22:02,758 They served a purpose to him. 373 00:22:03,522 --> 00:22:05,987 He married Frances for her money. 374 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:09,840 She gave him the money that allowed him 375 00:22:09,841 --> 00:22:13,069 to go into the oil business in a big way. 376 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:16,020 Dr. Armand Hammer and his third wife, Frances, 377 00:22:16,090 --> 00:22:17,963 took a $100,000 gamble 378 00:22:17,964 --> 00:22:20,603 when they invested in Occidental Petroleum, 379 00:22:20,673 --> 00:22:22,652 a small and struggling oil company. 380 00:22:24,631 --> 00:22:27,165 As far as the public was concerned, 381 00:22:27,234 --> 00:22:30,984 Armand did not have extra-marital relationships. 382 00:22:30,985 --> 00:22:33,275 But in truth, he always had mistresses, 383 00:22:33,276 --> 00:22:35,359 and he always womanized. 384 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:41,609 He looked for young women who he could control completely. 385 00:22:43,484 --> 00:22:45,774 You have this page, 386 00:22:45,775 --> 00:22:48,145 you got a lot of pictures of the different women in his life, 387 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:50,670 but this page, I wanna show the picture up here. 388 00:22:50,671 --> 00:22:52,857 That's a woman named Martha Kauffman... 389 00:22:52,858 --> 00:22:54,418 It was Martha Kauffman, yes. 390 00:22:54,419 --> 00:22:57,961 - But down here, the same woman is Hilary Gibson... - Right. 391 00:22:57,962 --> 00:23:00,564 Who are these two people? Are they the same person? 392 00:23:01,399 --> 00:23:04,141 I interviewed Martha Kauffman 393 00:23:04,211 --> 00:23:06,085 also known as Hilary Gibson, 394 00:23:06,086 --> 00:23:08,412 one of Hammer's mistresses. 395 00:23:08,481 --> 00:23:12,334 She told me that his wife, Frances, found out 396 00:23:12,335 --> 00:23:15,703 she was having a liaison with her husband. 397 00:23:15,773 --> 00:23:19,416 Frances laid down the law and said, 398 00:23:19,417 --> 00:23:21,015 "you have to get rid of this woman." 399 00:23:21,085 --> 00:23:23,792 So, rather than give up his mistress, 400 00:23:23,793 --> 00:23:28,375 he found a solution that was typical to the kinds of solutions he found. 401 00:23:28,376 --> 00:23:32,020 He had Martha Kauffman change her name. 402 00:23:32,785 --> 00:23:33,895 Hilary Gibson. 403 00:23:35,284 --> 00:23:37,853 Wear a white wig... 404 00:23:37,854 --> 00:23:41,534 and pretended to his wife that she was a different woman. 405 00:23:41,604 --> 00:23:43,937 And Frances, his wife never figured it out? 406 00:23:43,999 --> 00:23:45,318 No. 407 00:23:46,916 --> 00:23:50,663 What he demanded was control of every part of her life 408 00:23:50,664 --> 00:23:51,915 including her identity. 409 00:23:53,095 --> 00:23:56,080 It was all in his nature 410 00:23:56,082 --> 00:23:59,865 of a man who totally wanted to control 411 00:23:59,866 --> 00:24:03,511 a woman that he viewed as a object 412 00:24:03,581 --> 00:24:06,115 not as a human being. 413 00:24:09,761 --> 00:24:12,469 "Martha Kauffman, Armand's mistress, 414 00:24:12,537 --> 00:24:16,010 had to be available to meet his schedule at short notice. 415 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,932 He gave her two beepers to alert her to his calls. 416 00:24:19,933 --> 00:24:22,884 He prohibited her from seeing other men, 417 00:24:22,953 --> 00:24:26,703 and to make sure of her whereabouts in Los Angeles, 418 00:24:26,704 --> 00:24:30,347 he had a homing device installed in her car 419 00:24:30,348 --> 00:24:32,259 and a tap placed on her phone." 420 00:24:32,327 --> 00:24:34,409 He had my location on his phone... 421 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:36,807 "He also controlled her vacation schedule. 422 00:24:38,057 --> 00:24:41,910 She had to submit to his sexual demands 423 00:24:41,911 --> 00:24:46,180 even when she considered them extremely humiliating." 424 00:24:46,181 --> 00:24:49,236 something is very degrading, very belittling... 425 00:24:49,306 --> 00:24:51,215 Unfortunately, not shocked. 426 00:24:51,285 --> 00:24:54,027 This is exactly the kind of things... 427 00:24:55,069 --> 00:24:56,701 I experienced. This is... 428 00:24:59,618 --> 00:25:00,798 extremely humiliating. 429 00:25:02,568 --> 00:25:03,679 I resonate with that. 430 00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:09,339 Armie is so consuming. 431 00:25:10,797 --> 00:25:12,130 He does whatever he wants, but... 432 00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:15,692 you're his. 433 00:25:15,762 --> 00:25:17,533 Completely. 434 00:25:29,823 --> 00:25:33,191 I kept looking more into the archives of newspaper articles 435 00:25:33,261 --> 00:25:37,773 trying to find more content relating to the overlaps 436 00:25:37,774 --> 00:25:39,857 and parallels between each generation. 437 00:25:42,044 --> 00:25:43,988 "Son of Armand Hammer Seized. 438 00:25:43,989 --> 00:25:48,361 Julian Hammer, 47-year-old son of industrialist Armand Hammer 439 00:25:48,362 --> 00:25:51,627 was arrested at his Pacific Palisades home Thursday night 440 00:25:51,696 --> 00:25:55,584 for allegedly threatening a man in his home with a shotgun. 441 00:25:55,585 --> 00:25:58,708 Hammer brandished the weapon after returning home 442 00:25:58,709 --> 00:26:02,667 and finding 19-year-old Gary Bowers there with Cathe Boal, 28. 443 00:26:02,737 --> 00:26:05,271 Hammer reportedly said to Bowers, 444 00:26:05,341 --> 00:26:08,500 'hold it, take another step and I'll blow you apart.'" 445 00:26:16,694 --> 00:26:17,839 Stop! 446 00:26:24,922 --> 00:26:27,144 You're welcome and Casey's welcome. 447 00:26:27,214 --> 00:26:29,506 I'm doing this for Casey. 448 00:26:32,213 --> 00:26:35,650 I met Julian Hammer in the mid-70s. 449 00:26:35,651 --> 00:26:38,879 He needed someone to come and clean the house 450 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,859 and he offered me the job. 451 00:26:42,005 --> 00:26:43,982 I had just had a child, 452 00:26:43,984 --> 00:26:45,857 so I was able to bring my son up there 453 00:26:45,858 --> 00:26:48,080 while I was cleaning the house. 454 00:26:52,871 --> 00:26:56,586 The first day I came to work, there was a big party going on. 455 00:26:56,587 --> 00:26:58,043 It was a gambling party, 456 00:26:58,044 --> 00:27:00,127 it had been going on for a couple days, apparently. 457 00:27:01,273 --> 00:27:04,849 Everybody in Pacific Palisades that lived there 458 00:27:04,919 --> 00:27:06,169 knew about Julian. 459 00:27:10,057 --> 00:27:13,771 He was always in really nice pajamas and a beautiful robe 460 00:27:13,772 --> 00:27:15,369 and slippers and stuff. 461 00:27:15,439 --> 00:27:16,896 That's how he entertained. 462 00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:22,834 Because he was the Hugh Hefner of Pacific Palisades. 463 00:27:25,022 --> 00:27:28,874 As days went on, he started kinda opening up to me 464 00:27:28,875 --> 00:27:33,597 about the real him instead of being the phony 465 00:27:33,666 --> 00:27:37,034 with all of the people coming up and partying and stuff. 466 00:27:39,013 --> 00:27:42,866 He was a real charmer, he knew how to get his way, 467 00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:46,512 and he was just suave, you know, when he wanted to be. 468 00:27:48,491 --> 00:27:51,200 As time went on we just got real close. 469 00:27:53,769 --> 00:27:55,470 When my son was nine months old, 470 00:27:55,539 --> 00:27:59,428 Julian convinced me that I should leave my husband. 471 00:27:59,497 --> 00:28:03,455 We had probably been seeing each other around six months or so 472 00:28:03,456 --> 00:28:06,268 and we, um, got engaged. 473 00:28:07,761 --> 00:28:11,614 He seemed to be more possessive as time went on. 474 00:28:11,684 --> 00:28:13,351 He didn't want me to have any friends. 475 00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:15,745 Just him. 476 00:28:15,746 --> 00:28:19,530 I was naive, really, I guess you might say, 477 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,447 but I thought if I could give him enough love 478 00:28:22,516 --> 00:28:24,598 that maybe I could change him. 479 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:26,681 Which, of course, you don't change anybody, 480 00:28:26,682 --> 00:28:28,211 but I didn't know that then. 481 00:28:40,049 --> 00:28:44,388 One night, I convinced him that it was time for him to take me out. 482 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:48,278 And after we had dinner, he wanted to stop at a bar. 483 00:28:52,617 --> 00:28:55,949 Julian started hanging around with the guys in there 484 00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:58,867 and kind of flirting around with the guys. 485 00:29:00,326 --> 00:29:02,339 I got jealous, I didn't like the idea 486 00:29:02,409 --> 00:29:03,970 that he's flirting with these guys. 487 00:29:03,971 --> 00:29:06,887 "Why aren't you flirting with me? Why are you flirting with these guys?" 488 00:29:06,888 --> 00:29:10,255 Then I started realizing it was a gay bar. 489 00:29:14,179 --> 00:29:15,880 He did not want to leave. 490 00:29:17,408 --> 00:29:20,947 I just got so upset, I just walked out of the bar, 491 00:29:20,948 --> 00:29:23,240 walked across the street, put my thumb out. 492 00:29:27,025 --> 00:29:28,551 Within, like, five minutes, 493 00:29:28,553 --> 00:29:30,774 this really nice guy pulled over 494 00:29:30,844 --> 00:29:33,239 and he took me to Julian's house. 495 00:29:34,802 --> 00:29:38,065 And as he started to leave, Julian pulled up. 496 00:29:39,281 --> 00:29:41,467 And that's when everything escalated 497 00:29:41,468 --> 00:29:43,863 'cause Julian saw him at the door... 498 00:29:45,426 --> 00:29:49,384 and got upset that a man had brought me home. 499 00:29:51,814 --> 00:29:54,277 The go-to was always a gun. 500 00:29:54,278 --> 00:29:56,605 That was his thing when he got mad like a little baby. 501 00:29:56,675 --> 00:29:59,313 "I'm gonna go get my gun and I'm gonna shoot you." 502 00:30:00,216 --> 00:30:02,091 That was his way to get control. 503 00:30:07,229 --> 00:30:08,756 Oh, boy. 504 00:30:09,937 --> 00:30:13,963 "Julian Hammer, 47, son of industrialist Armand Hammer, 505 00:30:13,964 --> 00:30:17,714 was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon 506 00:30:17,715 --> 00:30:20,562 and released on a $1,000 bail." 507 00:30:21,811 --> 00:30:24,588 Somehow or another I always would give into him 508 00:30:24,589 --> 00:30:27,714 thinking, "all right, this time it'll be better, this time it'll be better." 509 00:30:28,582 --> 00:30:29,797 Unfortunately, it never was. 510 00:30:32,401 --> 00:30:35,108 Few days later, we got in an argument, 511 00:30:35,109 --> 00:30:36,982 and I saw the gun in his hand and I just said, 512 00:30:36,983 --> 00:30:39,691 "you are not gonna pull that gun out on me, 513 00:30:39,692 --> 00:30:41,148 you're not gonna point it at me," 514 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:42,817 and that's when I went for the gun. 515 00:30:45,211 --> 00:30:46,357 The gun went off. 516 00:30:47,434 --> 00:30:50,107 My nine-month-old son was in the same room. 517 00:30:50,108 --> 00:30:52,330 He was only a few feet away, 518 00:30:52,398 --> 00:30:55,003 and so it could have ricocheted and hit him and killed him. 519 00:30:57,191 --> 00:31:00,003 So, that was it, I left, that was it, it was over. 520 00:31:01,461 --> 00:31:03,232 There's no consequence. 521 00:31:04,412 --> 00:31:06,391 Well, what message are you sending? 522 00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:12,120 "So what? What's gonna happen to me? I'm a Hammer." 523 00:31:13,648 --> 00:31:15,938 Nothing ever happened to Julian 524 00:31:15,939 --> 00:31:19,897 because Armand Hammer had the money to make it go away. 525 00:31:22,084 --> 00:31:24,417 Bottom line, he could do whatever he wanted. 526 00:31:24,618 --> 00:31:26,181 He could get away with murder. 527 00:31:27,431 --> 00:31:28,889 And he did. 528 00:31:38,263 --> 00:31:40,207 Armie Hammer's great grandfather, Julian, 529 00:31:40,208 --> 00:31:43,123 was arrested for manslaughter in 1955. 530 00:31:43,124 --> 00:31:46,248 His old friend, Bruce, came to LA to celebrate his birthday, 531 00:31:46,249 --> 00:31:49,200 and reminded him that Julian owed him $400, 532 00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:51,456 and then Julian shot him two times. 533 00:31:51,457 --> 00:31:54,373 This all happened when Sue was pregnant with Armie's father, Michael. 534 00:31:56,491 --> 00:31:59,373 The story that he told us was self-defense, 535 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,642 but my mom was very quick to tell me, 536 00:32:03,643 --> 00:32:06,281 "no, your father just murdered someone in cold blood." 537 00:32:08,122 --> 00:32:10,100 Armand Hammer got a phone call 538 00:32:10,101 --> 00:32:12,218 saying that his son had just shot someone. 539 00:32:12,913 --> 00:32:14,996 And so, to save not his son, 540 00:32:15,864 --> 00:32:18,016 but to save his own reputation... 541 00:32:19,475 --> 00:32:24,578 he actually delivered $50,000 in cash to his lawyer, 542 00:32:24,579 --> 00:32:28,467 basically quashing the charges against his son, 543 00:32:28,537 --> 00:32:31,245 stopping his son from going to prison for murder. 544 00:32:33,467 --> 00:32:35,827 And he didn't even seem like he was really bothered 545 00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:39,508 in that he shot his friend over the gambling debt. 546 00:32:39,578 --> 00:32:42,424 He talked to me just nonchalant about it. 547 00:32:42,494 --> 00:32:44,887 You could get away with murder, you could do anything. 548 00:32:44,889 --> 00:32:47,493 There was no accountability. 549 00:32:50,444 --> 00:32:52,527 Each generation, 550 00:32:52,597 --> 00:32:55,965 the men learned very early that money makes things go away. 551 00:32:57,006 --> 00:32:58,429 It keeps people quiet. 552 00:33:00,097 --> 00:33:01,866 After the murder, 553 00:33:01,867 --> 00:33:05,303 Julian was given a position by Armand Hammer 554 00:33:05,304 --> 00:33:09,401 at Occidental Petroleum out of the public eye. 555 00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:15,407 Julian eventually began doing things for his father, 556 00:33:15,408 --> 00:33:19,156 illegal things like helping his father 557 00:33:19,157 --> 00:33:23,531 surreptitiously record conversations. 558 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,232 Julian set him up with a hidden microphone 559 00:33:30,302 --> 00:33:33,219 and wired 'em up as we've seen in police movies. 560 00:33:34,677 --> 00:33:38,112 So, he became part of the secretive world. 561 00:33:38,113 --> 00:33:39,989 A spy world, if you want. 562 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,417 Armand Hammer understood the criminal mind. 563 00:33:47,418 --> 00:33:50,022 That if you're wired and have someone on tape, 564 00:33:50,856 --> 00:33:52,522 you have control over them. 565 00:34:07,591 --> 00:34:11,547 The perception of Hammer in the early 1980s 566 00:34:11,548 --> 00:34:14,395 was that he was a humanitarian, 567 00:34:14,464 --> 00:34:16,650 a philanthropist, 568 00:34:16,651 --> 00:34:18,353 he was a billionaire, 569 00:34:18,423 --> 00:34:21,130 basically, whose mission in life 570 00:34:21,131 --> 00:34:23,457 was to bring about world peace. 571 00:34:25,193 --> 00:34:28,040 A few of us who were writing about Hammer 572 00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:33,456 were finding out there was this story there 573 00:34:33,526 --> 00:34:36,685 that the press had not gotten a hold of. 574 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:39,706 How do you do, ladies and gentlemen. 575 00:34:41,476 --> 00:34:45,643 Hammer had successfully buried the story of his past. 576 00:34:46,892 --> 00:34:48,419 In the Hammer family tree, 577 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:51,022 you have Armie Hammer and his father, Michael, 578 00:34:51,023 --> 00:34:53,836 his father, Julian, his father, Armand, 579 00:34:53,837 --> 00:34:55,710 and his father, Julius. 580 00:34:55,711 --> 00:34:57,482 I'm here to talk about Julius. 581 00:34:58,836 --> 00:35:01,542 Julius Hammer had come to America 582 00:35:01,543 --> 00:35:05,086 like many of the Jews of Russia. 583 00:35:06,162 --> 00:35:09,459 He was also a doctor, but more than that, 584 00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:13,314 he became an active politician. 585 00:35:14,356 --> 00:35:16,750 Julius Hammer was a founder 586 00:35:16,751 --> 00:35:18,522 of the American Communist Party. 587 00:35:22,897 --> 00:35:27,166 When his son in 1898 was born, 588 00:35:27,167 --> 00:35:31,576 he named him Armand Hammer after the symbol... 589 00:35:32,791 --> 00:35:35,394 of the Communist Party in Russia. 590 00:35:35,396 --> 00:35:36,957 The arm and the hammer. 591 00:35:41,332 --> 00:35:44,873 The Russians used the Hammer family 592 00:35:44,874 --> 00:35:49,455 through Julius Hammer to channel money into New York, 593 00:35:49,456 --> 00:35:54,143 fund the Communist Party and then steal technology, 594 00:35:54,144 --> 00:35:58,310 and trade secrets from the United States. 595 00:36:01,227 --> 00:36:04,246 After years of research, 596 00:36:04,247 --> 00:36:07,475 the CIA concluded that Armand Hammer 597 00:36:07,476 --> 00:36:11,851 was used to collect information for the KGB. 598 00:36:12,892 --> 00:36:15,809 He was an agent of the Soviet Union. 599 00:36:17,683 --> 00:36:20,529 Armie's great grandfather, Armand Hammer, 600 00:36:20,530 --> 00:36:25,495 goes to Moscow to take over what his father had built there. 601 00:36:27,578 --> 00:36:33,201 Armand Hammer became an agent of his father's company. 602 00:36:33,202 --> 00:36:36,743 He was a money launderer, he was a courier 603 00:36:36,744 --> 00:36:40,492 for funds that were channeled 604 00:36:40,493 --> 00:36:44,695 to Soviet espionage in the United States. 605 00:36:44,764 --> 00:36:48,547 It was secret, it was illegal, it was dangerous. 606 00:36:48,549 --> 00:36:52,471 Behind every great fortune is a great crime. 607 00:36:52,472 --> 00:36:55,110 Certainly behind the Hammer fortune... 608 00:36:56,326 --> 00:37:01,047 there were a great number of great crimes. 609 00:37:09,762 --> 00:37:11,776 The time for successful capitalists 610 00:37:11,845 --> 00:37:14,864 earning profits in the height of communism was over, 611 00:37:14,865 --> 00:37:17,156 and Dr. Armand Hammer decided to leave 612 00:37:17,157 --> 00:37:20,004 because he realized his businesses would never triumph 613 00:37:20,073 --> 00:37:22,365 under Stalin's crushing rule. 614 00:37:24,031 --> 00:37:29,066 When Hammer arrived in the U.S. in the early 1930s... 615 00:37:29,136 --> 00:37:32,988 there was still this fear of Russia and communism, 616 00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:36,878 so, one of his most important missions 617 00:37:36,947 --> 00:37:38,925 was to bury his past. 618 00:37:38,926 --> 00:37:41,669 Dr. Hammer, I must show this audience a picture of Olga. 619 00:37:44,134 --> 00:37:45,591 This is your first wife here. 620 00:37:45,592 --> 00:37:46,634 There she is. 621 00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:50,105 What didn't fit in with his legend 622 00:37:50,106 --> 00:37:53,194 of being an American who just happened to be in Russia 623 00:37:53,195 --> 00:37:57,049 was that he had a Russian wife and a Russian child 624 00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:59,584 born in Moscow, Julian. 625 00:37:59,653 --> 00:38:02,258 So, he tried to create as much distance as he could. 626 00:38:03,438 --> 00:38:05,901 He even had a paternity test taken 627 00:38:05,902 --> 00:38:10,382 in the hopes that it would show that his son, Julian... 628 00:38:11,632 --> 00:38:13,193 was not really his son. 629 00:38:14,583 --> 00:38:16,943 It was very sad when I heard the whole story 630 00:38:16,944 --> 00:38:19,651 from Julian's point of view. 631 00:38:19,652 --> 00:38:23,298 He knew he was always thought of as an embarrassment. 632 00:38:24,756 --> 00:38:26,006 An albatross. 633 00:38:27,707 --> 00:38:31,421 So, the relationship between Armand and Julian 634 00:38:31,422 --> 00:38:34,755 was a relationship of a father trying to hide... 635 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,045 his son. 636 00:38:37,046 --> 00:38:39,859 And his only son from the world. 637 00:38:48,816 --> 00:38:51,626 My father and brother hated each other. 638 00:38:51,627 --> 00:38:55,517 They constantly were arguing and bickering and fighting. 639 00:38:55,586 --> 00:38:57,460 But on the outside in front of Grandpa, 640 00:38:57,461 --> 00:38:59,786 they were patting each other on the back 641 00:38:59,787 --> 00:39:01,523 and being so phony and superficial. 642 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,689 My brother wanted to surpass my father, 643 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:07,773 but my father wasn't gonna let that happen. 644 00:39:09,127 --> 00:39:12,285 Julian was very jealous of Michael. That I saw. 645 00:39:12,286 --> 00:39:15,307 He was very jealous, he was very rough on Michael. 646 00:39:15,376 --> 00:39:16,625 Very mean to Michael. 647 00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:19,853 I did see a pattern there. 648 00:39:19,854 --> 00:39:22,874 That Julian, I think, was hard on his children 649 00:39:22,875 --> 00:39:25,792 because Armand was hard on Julian. 650 00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:38,534 The second trip I took from Washington 651 00:39:38,602 --> 00:39:40,929 down to visit my father... 652 00:39:42,596 --> 00:39:44,679 everyone was drinking way too much... 653 00:39:47,872 --> 00:39:49,782 and my father offered my brother 654 00:39:49,783 --> 00:39:51,762 $1 million for his girlfriend. 655 00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:58,602 My brother, it was like a monster unleashed. 656 00:40:01,831 --> 00:40:06,100 They both said, "I'm gonna kill you," and they ran outside, 657 00:40:06,101 --> 00:40:09,572 and when I finally circled the building, 658 00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:12,559 I saw police had separated them. 659 00:40:14,121 --> 00:40:16,620 The cops didn't arrest either one of 'em, 660 00:40:16,621 --> 00:40:20,926 and let them both drive away intoxicated as they were, 661 00:40:20,996 --> 00:40:24,467 and Michael's girlfriend ended up going with my father 662 00:40:24,537 --> 00:40:28,287 quote unquote to tame the situation. 663 00:40:29,953 --> 00:40:32,071 She was older than most of the girls. 664 00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:34,987 Probably 19. 665 00:40:35,057 --> 00:40:38,528 She ended up living with my father for, like, another eight months. 666 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,555 When I graduated from high school, my grandfather said, 667 00:40:47,556 --> 00:40:51,236 "you're now going to the University of San Diego because your brother's there." 668 00:40:53,215 --> 00:40:56,615 USD was a Catholic private school, 669 00:40:56,616 --> 00:40:58,700 2000 students, so, it was very small. 670 00:41:01,513 --> 00:41:03,943 Michael was larger than life on the campus, 671 00:41:04,012 --> 00:41:05,922 meaning he had a reputation. 672 00:41:05,991 --> 00:41:09,950 Him and his friends are partying and just, um, all kinds of things. 673 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,260 Michael was the life-of-the-party guy. 674 00:41:15,261 --> 00:41:17,447 He was the leader of the guys. 675 00:41:17,448 --> 00:41:19,739 When their group would come in, 676 00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:22,136 Michael would always be front and center. 677 00:41:23,004 --> 00:41:25,989 He was almost the stereotypical 678 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:29,461 wealthy kid that you see in teen movies. 679 00:41:29,531 --> 00:41:31,753 What was his, uh, slogan? 680 00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:35,503 I think he even wanted T-shirts made that said, "Decadence, a way of life." 681 00:41:37,342 --> 00:41:39,738 He kind of always had a different girl. 682 00:41:39,739 --> 00:41:43,523 It would be one of those things where, you know, 683 00:41:43,592 --> 00:41:45,569 "Do we really have to get to know her? 684 00:41:45,571 --> 00:41:47,585 There will just be a new one next week." 685 00:41:48,522 --> 00:41:51,507 It didn't matter what room he was in, 686 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:55,985 he commanded your attention, he wanted your attention. 687 00:41:55,986 --> 00:41:58,730 Almost every single one 688 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,507 of Casey's closest friends 689 00:42:01,508 --> 00:42:04,841 ended up sleeping with Michael at some point or another. 690 00:42:07,132 --> 00:42:10,985 One night, I had found a photo album in his closet. 691 00:42:10,986 --> 00:42:13,312 And it was a lot of naked people 692 00:42:13,382 --> 00:42:14,943 in the pictures, like an orgy, 693 00:42:14,944 --> 00:42:17,999 and there was cash, and there were drugs, 694 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:20,290 and there was a gun in the closet as well. 695 00:42:22,478 --> 00:42:24,665 Michael was mirroring my father 696 00:42:24,735 --> 00:42:28,378 and showing early signs of what my father was like. 697 00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:30,706 It was scary. 698 00:42:33,310 --> 00:42:35,185 My name is Wendy Williams. 699 00:42:35,255 --> 00:42:38,726 Casey Hammer and Michael Hammer 700 00:42:38,795 --> 00:42:40,254 are my cousins. 701 00:42:41,816 --> 00:42:44,628 I thought that they were just wealthy, 702 00:42:44,629 --> 00:42:47,440 they had this wonderful life, 703 00:42:47,441 --> 00:42:50,184 when it was not like that at all. 704 00:42:52,753 --> 00:42:56,641 Michael was pretty reckless when he was younger. 705 00:42:58,481 --> 00:42:59,731 I remember Armand Hammer 706 00:42:59,732 --> 00:43:03,169 coming in to intervene with Michael. 707 00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:07,786 He was making very specific demands 708 00:43:07,855 --> 00:43:10,564 of how Michael's life was going to be. 709 00:43:11,502 --> 00:43:13,202 Basically, there would be no money 710 00:43:13,272 --> 00:43:16,848 unless he cleaned up his life 711 00:43:16,918 --> 00:43:19,244 and did what Armand... 712 00:43:20,493 --> 00:43:21,535 wanted. 713 00:43:22,646 --> 00:43:25,771 Which was, come work for the company. 714 00:43:29,034 --> 00:43:32,020 It always appeared that Michael 715 00:43:32,021 --> 00:43:33,930 was the Hammer heir. 716 00:43:34,729 --> 00:43:37,471 And Casey was, 717 00:43:37,541 --> 00:43:39,346 for a lack of a better way to say it, 718 00:43:39,416 --> 00:43:45,075 "Just be nice and be pretty and we'll take care of you." 719 00:43:45,144 --> 00:43:48,580 Michael had gotten back into graces with my grandfather 720 00:43:48,581 --> 00:43:51,081 and then was hired at Oxy. 721 00:43:52,227 --> 00:43:54,309 And so, Michael saw 722 00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:57,157 he could try and manipulate my grandfather, 723 00:43:57,227 --> 00:44:00,907 or get, you know, above my father's hierarchy. 724 00:44:16,495 --> 00:44:18,578 Grandpa would throw parties all the time. 725 00:44:19,863 --> 00:44:21,634 We would get invited, 726 00:44:21,703 --> 00:44:25,245 and it was a select few 2,000 of his closest friends. 727 00:44:27,154 --> 00:44:29,967 And it was who's who in Hollywood if you got invited. 728 00:44:30,035 --> 00:44:34,305 It's now my great privilege to introduce Mr. Gregory Peck. 729 00:44:43,889 --> 00:44:46,284 It was a huge deal when they were like, 730 00:44:46,285 --> 00:44:49,722 "Armand Hammer is hosting Prince Charles and Lady Diana." 731 00:44:53,368 --> 00:44:57,360 So, yeah, it was pretty cool when you got to tell people that you were there. 732 00:44:59,756 --> 00:45:02,116 My father was forced to show up 733 00:45:02,117 --> 00:45:04,199 at a function or a party, 734 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,734 and just didn't wanna have anything to do with it. 735 00:45:08,158 --> 00:45:10,970 Whereas my brother wanted it so deeply... 736 00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:15,969 to take his place as heir apparent to the throne. 737 00:45:19,233 --> 00:45:22,948 I tried watching the HBO show Succession. 738 00:45:24,129 --> 00:45:25,969 I got through three episodes... 739 00:45:26,906 --> 00:45:28,295 and I had to turn it off. 740 00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:33,503 Everyone's brown-nosing each other 741 00:45:33,571 --> 00:45:38,086 and saying fake stuff, and everyone hates each other on the inside, 742 00:45:38,155 --> 00:45:41,175 but on the outside they're all pretending to get along. 743 00:45:41,176 --> 00:45:44,612 Magnify Succession a million times, 744 00:45:44,613 --> 00:45:47,842 and it was literally my family. 745 00:45:57,008 --> 00:45:59,542 Michael was 27, 28, when he first met 746 00:45:59,611 --> 00:46:02,112 Armie's mother, Dru. 747 00:46:04,923 --> 00:46:08,187 He was flying first class and he was really drunk, 748 00:46:08,257 --> 00:46:10,998 and I guess Dru was sitting next to him. 749 00:46:10,999 --> 00:46:13,359 And she said before she got off the airplane, 750 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,715 she was planning to marry him. 751 00:46:16,832 --> 00:46:19,540 She was very religious 752 00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:23,255 and very not like what Michael goes out with. 753 00:46:23,256 --> 00:46:25,025 So when he got off the airplane 754 00:46:25,026 --> 00:46:27,040 and he was saying, "I met someone," 755 00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:28,567 we were all like, "Sure, okay." 756 00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:30,789 And then when we met Dru, 757 00:46:30,858 --> 00:46:34,190 we just thought, "Oh, that's never gonna last." 758 00:46:34,191 --> 00:46:38,357 But my grandfather rolled out the red carpet for her and her parents. 759 00:46:39,399 --> 00:46:41,934 He wanted Michael and Dru to get married, 760 00:46:42,004 --> 00:46:46,378 because this was a wholesome, Tulsa, wealthy family 761 00:46:46,379 --> 00:46:48,599 that was very religious, 762 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,460 and my grandfather believed that Dru could change Michael. 763 00:46:53,461 --> 00:46:57,454 After we got out of college, Michael came over one night to Casey's house 764 00:46:57,524 --> 00:47:01,272 and introduced this woman as his fiance, and we got to know her. 765 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:05,543 But then he was with other girls 766 00:47:05,544 --> 00:47:07,834 who went out with us, 767 00:47:07,835 --> 00:47:09,953 and, you know, we would ask questions like, 768 00:47:10,022 --> 00:47:13,250 "Oh, did you break up with your fiance?" 769 00:47:13,251 --> 00:47:16,723 "No, no, she's fine. She just couldn't come out tonight." 770 00:47:20,646 --> 00:47:24,395 When they got married, it was a big, elaborate, to-do in Tulsa 771 00:47:24,396 --> 00:47:27,206 where who's who was invited. 772 00:47:27,207 --> 00:47:28,249 It was a giant wedding. 773 00:47:29,917 --> 00:47:32,138 When Dru gave birth to Armie, 774 00:47:32,208 --> 00:47:34,742 they would parade him around to Grandpa's. 775 00:47:34,812 --> 00:47:36,825 Everyone fawned all over him. 776 00:47:39,395 --> 00:47:42,415 I remember being at Michael and Dru's house in the Palisades. 777 00:47:43,387 --> 00:47:46,304 Armie, just this little, cute towhead little boy, 778 00:47:46,373 --> 00:47:48,247 comes up to me. 779 00:47:48,248 --> 00:47:49,601 And Michael says, "Are you gonna give 780 00:47:49,602 --> 00:47:51,684 your aunt Casey a hug goodbye?" 781 00:47:51,685 --> 00:47:53,873 And he kicked me in the shins. 782 00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:58,767 I was like, "You're such a little brat." 783 00:47:58,768 --> 00:48:03,557 But God forbid you touch or say anything bad to Armie. 784 00:48:03,558 --> 00:48:06,719 He was given Armand Douglas Hammer, after my grandfather. 785 00:48:07,864 --> 00:48:10,224 He was the prince, the crown, 786 00:48:10,226 --> 00:48:12,932 the continuation of the Hammer name, 787 00:48:12,933 --> 00:48:15,015 so the whole Hammer family could live again 788 00:48:15,016 --> 00:48:16,718 in a whole another generation. 789 00:48:23,696 --> 00:48:25,848 - Armand Hammer... - Dr. Armand Hammer... 790 00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:28,348 Self-made millionaire Armand Hammer is dead. 791 00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:30,639 He died last night at the age of 92. 792 00:48:34,806 --> 00:48:38,659 I was living in Hawaii when I got a phone call 793 00:48:38,661 --> 00:48:41,299 that my grandfather had passed. 794 00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:43,416 And... 795 00:48:44,944 --> 00:48:47,096 it was the phone call that you never thought 796 00:48:47,097 --> 00:48:48,972 was gonna happen. It was from Michael. 797 00:48:50,326 --> 00:48:54,284 I remember dropping the phone... 798 00:48:55,430 --> 00:49:00,011 and the room spinning. 799 00:49:00,012 --> 00:49:03,657 Armand Hammer, philanthropist, art collector, and industrialist... 800 00:49:03,658 --> 00:49:07,130 It was a huge deal. The coverage was incredible. 801 00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:10,359 From 1921, Hammer was making deals... 802 00:49:10,428 --> 00:49:14,906 I just remember being at the airport getting ready to board my flight, 803 00:49:14,907 --> 00:49:19,073 and on all the monitors and TV screens, "Armand Hammer Dies." 804 00:49:19,074 --> 00:49:21,816 Armand Hammer, the son of one of the founders 805 00:49:21,885 --> 00:49:24,837 of the American Communist Party, acquired Occidental... 806 00:49:24,905 --> 00:49:26,884 You couldn't get away from it. 807 00:49:27,441 --> 00:49:29,175 It was just surreal. 808 00:49:29,176 --> 00:49:32,300 I hope that when I pass on, I will have left the world 809 00:49:32,301 --> 00:49:34,419 a little better than when I found it. 810 00:49:41,051 --> 00:49:42,821 Michael had called me, 811 00:49:42,822 --> 00:49:47,091 and Grandpa was still dead on the bed 812 00:49:47,092 --> 00:49:49,175 while he was looting the house. 813 00:49:50,772 --> 00:49:53,340 There were five vans out front, 814 00:49:53,342 --> 00:49:56,152 and Michael and Dru bringing down tapestries 815 00:49:56,153 --> 00:49:58,236 and taking things from the house. 816 00:49:59,417 --> 00:50:01,048 I had flown in that morning. 817 00:50:01,049 --> 00:50:04,798 I rented a car and I remember driving to my father's house. 818 00:50:04,799 --> 00:50:08,791 I was just trying to make sense of everything. 819 00:50:08,861 --> 00:50:12,297 Few days later, we were called into Arthur Groman's office, 820 00:50:12,298 --> 00:50:15,422 who was my grandfather's best friend and attorney, 821 00:50:15,423 --> 00:50:18,026 and that was where the reading of the will was. 822 00:50:23,582 --> 00:50:26,706 Michael was on my right and my father was across from me. 823 00:50:28,651 --> 00:50:32,400 Arthur Groman's reading through it and saying, 824 00:50:32,401 --> 00:50:34,101 "And I leave my granddaughter, 825 00:50:34,171 --> 00:50:38,684 Casey Layne Hammer, $250,000 in cash." 826 00:50:38,753 --> 00:50:41,044 Let's see what else. 827 00:50:41,045 --> 00:50:43,650 "And I leave Julian Hammer, my son... 828 00:50:44,934 --> 00:50:46,809 $500,000. 829 00:50:46,879 --> 00:50:50,038 Pay off his house and car and debts. 830 00:50:51,392 --> 00:50:55,939 And I leave Michael Armand Hammer the Rolls-Royce." 831 00:50:59,065 --> 00:51:02,293 And then the last paragraph or so was, 832 00:51:02,294 --> 00:51:04,620 "And the executor of the estate 833 00:51:05,419 --> 00:51:07,015 is Michael Armand Hammer 834 00:51:07,710 --> 00:51:11,042 and his wife, Dru Ann Hammer." 835 00:51:14,202 --> 00:51:16,771 My grandfather had 836 00:51:16,772 --> 00:51:19,306 $40 million of cash left. 837 00:51:21,493 --> 00:51:23,575 I got $250,000, 838 00:51:23,576 --> 00:51:25,659 my father got $500,000... 839 00:51:26,805 --> 00:51:29,375 everything else got passed on to Michael. 840 00:51:30,416 --> 00:51:32,604 At that point, you're like, "Wait, what?" 841 00:51:33,957 --> 00:51:36,909 You don't think you're hearing any of it. 842 00:51:38,749 --> 00:51:42,810 And my father starts going off, 843 00:51:42,811 --> 00:51:45,241 "What do you mean, you get the Rolls-Royce? 844 00:51:45,311 --> 00:51:47,741 I want the Rolls-Royce." And I'm like, 845 00:51:47,811 --> 00:51:49,893 in my mind, thinking, 846 00:51:49,894 --> 00:51:52,809 "You don't even understand the gravity of what just happened." 847 00:51:53,644 --> 00:51:55,969 It made no sense. 848 00:51:56,038 --> 00:51:58,643 And when I asked when the new will was signed... 849 00:51:59,685 --> 00:52:02,010 it was in October. 850 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,371 Forty days later, my grandfather died. 851 00:52:17,113 --> 00:52:19,369 The expectation of his family members 852 00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:21,800 was he was a billionaire. 853 00:52:21,869 --> 00:52:23,952 And then when his will was read... 854 00:52:25,412 --> 00:52:26,766 they learned that he wasn't. 855 00:52:29,196 --> 00:52:32,078 He had given away most of his money. 856 00:52:34,404 --> 00:52:38,361 So, the Hammer family was left basically fighting among themselves. 857 00:52:41,174 --> 00:52:44,403 Michael decided he would grab as much of the money 858 00:52:44,472 --> 00:52:46,798 and as much of the power as he could, 859 00:52:46,867 --> 00:52:50,235 and as executive, there were very few people to oppose him. 860 00:52:52,839 --> 00:52:55,339 It was like checkmate. 861 00:52:55,408 --> 00:52:58,532 Michael was putting the screws to my father and I, 862 00:52:58,533 --> 00:53:01,137 and my brother told my mother, 863 00:53:01,138 --> 00:53:03,949 "Casey's just a casualty," 864 00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:06,587 because he hated my father so much, 865 00:53:06,588 --> 00:53:08,220 he wanted him out on the street. 866 00:53:10,927 --> 00:53:15,546 To have Michael, who professed himself as a man of God, 867 00:53:15,616 --> 00:53:17,941 doing this to my father and myself... 868 00:53:22,212 --> 00:53:25,509 it's not about the inheritance as much as it is about 869 00:53:26,344 --> 00:53:27,697 just being acknowledged. 870 00:53:29,468 --> 00:53:31,031 I was completely left out. 871 00:53:32,385 --> 00:53:34,883 That's really sad when you realize that 872 00:53:34,884 --> 00:53:38,773 you don't have any family or anybody who love you. 873 00:53:43,043 --> 00:53:44,918 I don't know how to process all of that. 874 00:53:45,751 --> 00:53:47,210 I just, um... 875 00:53:48,424 --> 00:53:49,466 yeah. 876 00:53:51,584 --> 00:53:53,112 It didn't end well. 877 00:54:03,006 --> 00:54:06,270 Armie talked a lot about the evilness 878 00:54:06,340 --> 00:54:08,874 of the men in his family. 879 00:54:08,944 --> 00:54:12,693 His dad, his grandpa, his great-grandpa. 880 00:54:12,694 --> 00:54:15,645 But he didn't sound like he was ashamed of it. 881 00:54:15,714 --> 00:54:18,943 It's almost like it was a badge of honor. 882 00:54:26,998 --> 00:54:29,358 After the Sedona night with the ropes, 883 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:31,893 Armie's pulling me even closer. 884 00:54:36,268 --> 00:54:39,809 We go to Dallas and meet his mom. 885 00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:45,225 He warned me that it would be interesting. 886 00:54:46,996 --> 00:54:49,566 And that, it was. 887 00:54:51,441 --> 00:54:55,503 She's just like Armie, she's gorgeous, tall, really beautiful. 888 00:54:56,961 --> 00:54:58,662 They both command a room. 889 00:54:58,732 --> 00:55:00,328 You know, they have a presence. 890 00:55:03,210 --> 00:55:07,099 At dinner, Armie was talking 891 00:55:07,168 --> 00:55:10,640 negatively about his father. 892 00:55:10,709 --> 00:55:14,181 And she just blurted out, "You need to give him some slack, 893 00:55:14,251 --> 00:55:17,479 because this happened to him 894 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,292 when he was younger." 895 00:55:21,681 --> 00:55:25,500 And it was something that I should not have been there for. 896 00:55:30,326 --> 00:55:34,388 Nobody could have been prepared for what I heard that night. 897 00:55:37,374 --> 00:55:40,810 It was just some deep-rooted family trauma. 65367

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