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Movies are extremely
compelling expressions,

not only of stories,

not only of drama,

but of the zeitgeist.

They reflect back to us
who we are

politically,

socially,

religiously.

There are certain themes
whose moments,

whose time have arrived.

And the Satanic themes that
appeared in "Rosemary's Baby"

just seemed perfectly in step
with the tenor of the times.

In 1968,

everything was kind of changing
culturally.

The Vietnam war was really
at its worst,

so there was a massive youth
movement to stop the war.

A lot of people,
including the government,

feared that this revolution
was actually gonna happen

in the United States,

fueled by the youth
of America.

It was a violent,
turbulent time.

Male This is a CBS
News Special Report.

The death of Dr. Martin
Luther King Junior.

In 1968,

there was the Martin Luther
King assassination.

There was the Robert Kennedy
assassination.

I always say horror films
reflect the times we live,

"Rosemary's Baby" came out

at a pivotal moment in history.

The world was really changing,

and horror films
changed with it.

"Rosemary's Baby"
was a milestone movie.

Not too many mainstream
Hollywood films, even now,

would deal with a story
of a young woman,

raped and impregnated
by the devil.

I think it's one
of the greatest horror movies

ever made for the very
simple reason

that it presents
the adversary...

as us!

Not someone who transforms
under a full moon,

comes out only at night.

But the adversary
is my slightly wacky,

eccentric, nosy,
if likable, neighbors.

And I think that's
the movie's genius.

- That's one of the twists.

- This is for you,
from Roman and me.

- It gave people a different
idea of what Satanists are.

- It's lovely.

- As a child growing up,

just emerging as a Satanist
when I was 12-years-old,

when I heard for the first time
from someone else's lips

besides mine, "Hail Satan,"

- Hail, Satan!
- Hail, Satan!

- Satan is his father!

- It was inspiring.
It was strengthening.

If you're not a Satanist,

and you're not rooting
for the Satanists,

I suppose it might be
a different perception.

- Oh God!

Polanski was in many
ways a bellwether of his times.

He, too, observed that
traditional hierarchies

were being upended.

There was fascination
with witchcraft,

and questions of the afterlife.

And of course,
with Anton Lavey's founding

of the Church of Satan,

there was a question about
whether adversarial forces

represented a legitimate

spiritual or ethical
path for people.

So, suddenly doors to the
infinite were thrown open.

And that was part
of the counterculture.

- There was definitely
a synergy

between the Church of Satan
and "Rosemary's Baby."

As far as "Rosemary's Baby"
actually being cursed,

As far as somebody dying

or tragedy happening attached
to the film itself,

there is an idea

that if you make a wicked film,

a dark film,

then you're opening yourself

up to forces outside yourself

that could influence your life
in a negative way.

"Rosemary's Baby"
is considered cursed,

partly because of its
proximity and time

to the murder of Polanski's
wife,

Sharon Tate,

and her housemates.

Polanski met
Sharon Tate in London

in swinging 1967.

Sharon Tate was obviously
ambitious.

- I feel a little top-heavy.

- You are a little top-heavy.

What's your ultimate
ambition?

- I want to remain as much
myself as possible,

you know, and just do
what really excites me,

and interests me.

She was also smart
enough to see

that Polanski was a man
with a future.

Roman's absolutely
a genius.

And he was a hard-luck guy.

He's a brilliant director,

and he had a lot of hard luck
in his life

and I'm sure that leaves
its mark,

but only a psychiatrist
would know that.

My name
is Julian Wasser.

I'm a photo-documentarian.

I'm a photojournalist.

I started when I was 11,

I put a police radio
in my father's car.

I would steal his car
and go out,

shoot horrible crime scenes.

What makes a good
crime photograph?

- Blood. Someone burned alive,
something like that.

A suicidal-like, Talbert Street
Bridge,

where the person
lands on the concrete

and they're smashed to pieces.

Anything horrible.

And how did that
transition into

photographing celebrities?

Well, in L.A.,
what else is there

except celebrities?
That's what sells.

That's what everybody
in the world wants to see.

Marilyn Monroe,

Marlon Brando,

people like that.

I worked on the set
of "Rosemary's Baby."

Anything Roman Polanski
touched was a big, big deal.

You had uh,
Mia Farrow in that,

I think she was married
to Sinatra then.

and Bob Evans,

another charismatic guy
who was involved.

So it was a big deal,

I-I felt very privileged

to be able to work on that set.

And there's Mia Farrow
in the background

with a knife on the floor,

and then Bud Fraker,
the camera guy on the right,

he's since passed on.

This was in 1968.
It was a long time ago.

"Rosemary's Baby"
was written by Ira Levin,

a self-professed
New York atheist.

And Levin asked himself
the question one day,

what would it be like

if I took a scene
from everyday life,

a young woman becoming
pregnant,

and made it into a kind
of a nightmare?

- Dr. Hill?
Congratulations.

- Really?

You're also seeing
this horror

of women at that time period.

When you watch that movie,
there's always an older man

guiding her by the back
of her arm.

She's always being told
to ignore her instincts,

to always just sort of mold

to whatever these men
want from her,

and she's really absorbing
that.

That was the story for women
for so many generations

that they didn't have
any other choice

but to mold within that world,
or perish.

It's saying something
about her,

but it's also equally
subversive

in that she's going against
her own Catholic faith

to raise this satanic child.

One important aspect
that defines "Rosemary's Baby"

is William Castle's
involvement.

My dad was the nicest,
kindest,

most compassionate man,

who just happened to love
to scare the Hell outta people.

He was a well-
respected director/producer.

- Do you believe in ghosts?

You know, but most of his
films, you know, he was,

he was the gimmick guy.

I mean, I loved
"Homicidal,"

where there was a clock
that came up

right at the climax
of the film.

So if you were too
frightened to stay,

you could leave,
and get your money back.

He had a film called
"House on Haunted Hill,"

and something called "Emergo,"

a skeleton flew across
the theatre,

to everybody's screams
of delight.

- It was William Castle
who produced that film,

and he bought
"Rosemary's Baby,"

and I was not overjoyed
when he did.

So my dad definitely
wanted to direct

"Rosemary's Baby" when
he bought the property.

And he brought the book to
Robert Evans over at Paramount,

but it was within the week,
I think,

that they said, no,

we're gonna have this young,
hot new director,

Roman Polanski, direct it.

And my father was really upset.

He still was gonna produce
this, but...

his shot at directing
an "A" film

was taken away from him.

- I remember the day
when he called,

and said that he had decided
not to direct it himself.

He was getting Roman Polanski,
and was I terribly unhappy?

So I said no, I think I can
get over that. So--

And I remember Roman
coming over the house,

and my Dad saw Roman's
fantastic talent,

and thought,
okay, let's do this.

We have four
main characters

in "Rosemary's Baby."

In the leading spot
is Mia Farrow,

and John Cassavetes
is playing her husband.

Roman is a craftsman.

The best, and I trusted him.

All the way.

There is a long-standing
rumor that Anton Lavey,

the founder of the Church
of Satan

was a technical advisor
to the film,

or played the role of Satan
himself in the movie.

Anton Lavey got
involved for authenticity

and advice.

- Hail, Satan.

- Hail, Satan.

- Anton had talked about
Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra

having friction on this set,

he talked about John Cassavetes

and Polanski having
some friction

because they both
wanted to direct.

The exterior filming
of "Rosemary's Baby"

was obviously filmed
in New York City,

but the interiors
were all built

on the Paramount Studios lot.

Interesting, Paramount Studios
is actually...

former cemetery property.

"Hollywood Memorial Park,"
right behind it,

used to be twice as big
as it is.

This wall that you see
on to our right,

This is the wall
of the cemetery.

in the early nineteen-teens,

Hollywood Cemetery was actually

literally cut in half,
and sold.

And on the other half,
a movie studio was built.

Where this traffic light is,

is where Hollywood
Cemetery ends,

and where Paramount Studios
begins.

I have no doubt that
there are remains

underneath Paramount Studio.

So the studio itself is fairly,

I think I can say with
confidence, haunted.

I don't know
if "Rosemary's Baby"

is the most cursed film.

And I don't know if there's
such a thing as a "cursed set,"

but I wouldn't bet
my life on it.

After the film was made,

bad stuff started to happen.

With "Rosemary's Baby,"

all of these terrible
things that took place

in the actors, and actresses
and producers' lives

happened after the film's
release.

The Krzysztof Komeda story
is a key one for me.

Krzysztof Komeda was a prolific
jazz musician.

He'd had about 60 film
soundtracks already

under his belt before he
started working with Polanski.

He'd worked on other films
with Polanski

like "Cul-de-Sac,"
and "Knife in the Water."

"Rosemary's Lullaby" at the
opening credits of the film

is one of the most iconic
pieces of Music

in terms of horror films
that we have.

So, according to Polanski,

after the film in December '68,

he was drinking with Komeda

and another guy called Hlasko,
who was a writer.

And those two got involved
in a bit of rough and tumble,

and Komeda fell and hit
his head.

That's one version of events.

Another story says he was
in a car accident in L.A..

What we do know as fact is
that he developed a hematoma

on the brain
and fell into a coma,

and sadly died three
months later.

Now there's a dark reflection
on that in the film.

Obviously, Rosemary's friend,
Hutch.

- Hutch, this is Roman
Castevet.

He is targeted
by a coven of witches.

He develops a mystery illness
and falls into a coma,

and dies three months later.

- Hutch is dead.

Just like Komeda.

In the spiritual world,

there's a thing which is known
as a "God wink."

When you have a coincidence
which is a good coincidence,

The idea is that's God
winking at you

to let you know that
you're on the right path.

I think there were certain
dark coincidences

such as Komeda's death

and Hutch's death in the film,

which is kind of like
a devil wink,

for want of a better phrase.

It's kind of like the devil
himself saying

that you're not
on the right track.

Right after
the film premiered,

my Dad had to go in for major,
major surgery.

His kidney stopped working,

and he was convinced he saw
the reflection of the devil

in the surgeon's knife.

But that's only part of it.

When the Catholic Church
gave it a C rating

and condemned it.

When he got hate mail

saying that he was gonna rot
in Hell.

He went into a depression.

He's used to making kind of
fun horror films, you know,

and all of the sudden,
he thought,

what did I bring
into this world?

The night before I gave labor
to my second child,

I dreamt that I was Rosemary.
- Really?

- Which is not a real pleasant
thing to dream

right before you're about to go
and give birth to a baby.

Yeah.

And it has affected how
I wanna protect my children,

and how one child
I wasn't able to protect.

I had one child who died
of cancer.

Was that the curse?
I don't know.

And my sister died very young

of a heart and kidney issue.

Was that the curse?
I don't know.

And my mother had Alzheimer's
at a very young age,

and lived with Alzheimer's
for 20 years.

Was that the curse?
I don't know.

The events
of "Rosemary's Baby"

take place in 1966,

which was the very year
Anton Lavey

founded the Church of Satan.

Of course, in one of the famous
scenes from "Rosemary's Baby,"

Rosemary is seated
in the waiting room

of her obstetrician

and picks up a copy
of Time Magazine,

which famously has on its cover
the question,

"Is God Dead?"

The Western world experienced
an occult revival

by the late 60s with
the Woodstock Generation.

It's like people that
are nowhere are coming here

because there's people that
they think are somewhere.

So everybody is like,
really looking for you know,

for some kind of answer.
Where there isn't one.

It's just like, people
are very lost, I think.

- The intersection
of the hippie movement

and the occult movement makes
a lot of sense to me.

Because I think they're
hand-in-hand in terms

of the type of ideas
that they were exploring.

You know, with the hippie
movement you have like,

this sort of, return
to the land idealism.

it's going back to these
sort of paganistic

religious systems.

I think that the obsession
with witchcraft

and the occult during
the 1960s and 1970s

originated in England in 1951,

when there was the reversal
of the Witchcraft Act,

which had been put in place
in 1735,

and that did not allow anyone
to openly practice witchcraft.

So when that was lifted,

you've got this whole
kind of explosion

of everybody wanting
to explore this topic,

because they previously
weren't allowed to.

You have these kind of
mind-altering drugs

that are also playing
a factor

in this great awakening

that was occurring
in the culture.

People who really started
using LSD recreationally

would kind of have um,

religious experiences,
and hallucinations.

- Help me!

Some of them
explored all kinds

of mystical religions,

and some people became
interested in Satanism.

There were rumors that Sharon
Tate dabbled in Satanism.

If she did,

I think it was more out
of curiosity and fun,

but there were other people

who had gotten serious
about it.

I'm trying to think if there
were any famous people

who ever admitted it,

Sammy Davis Jr.
identified,

and called himself a Satanist.

He understood that Satanism

was an advocate for minority
positions

in a lot of ways.

That was a period
in Sammy's life

that he later wrote about

and was very public about.

But what's truly weird

is that Sammy Davis Jr's
memoir,

"Yes, I Can,"

can be seen very prominently

on screen at least twice,

once when Rosemary is snuggling
up with the book,

Then another time when
Guy is tucking away

a book on witches that Rosemary
had been given,

and we see the spine
of Sammy Davis' book,

very prominently featured.

As a man whose life
was impacted by evil,

Polanski, he has to be
seen as an artist

who, at that time,

was trying to expose us

to questions of evil
in ourselves.

When we talk about
having a tough childhood,

it's hard to compare to what
actually happened to Polanski.

Polanski's mother, Bula,

was taken to Auschwitz,

and she happened to have
been four months pregnant

at the time,

which was significant
because of course,

one of the first things
that happened on arrival

at these terrible places
was an inspection

as to whether or not
you were fit for work.

Tragically,
she was exterminated.

Polanski's father
was also arrested.

He eventually ended up
in terrible circumstances

having to work at
the Mauthausen camps,

what was called
the "staircase of death,"

which involved carrying
these huge slabs of rock

up and down rough stone steps.

And if you fell, you were
basically left to die.

Polanski's father
survived two years

of this nightmarish ordeal,

and eventually was liberated
by the Americans

in the spring of 1945,

and reunited with his child.

By this stage, Roman Polanski
already had seen

more real horror and bloodshed
in his life

than most of us would care
to see

in our entire lives.

And that was just
the beginning.

The year after
the film came out,

one of the most impactful
moments of my young life

was driving up to San
Francisco.

We pulled over to the curb,

and my dad saw a newspaper
stand and read the headline

that Sharon Tate
had had been murdered,

and her baby had been murdered.

And they turned the car around,
and we drove right back.

Well, I got up,
and I heard a lot of sirens.

I called the police department
and I said,

what's going on in west L.A.?

And they told me there was
an incident on Cielo Drive.

And I got dressed
and went right up there.

This incredible
true crime case

is like nothing else.

It involves rock stars
and movie stars.

If you didn't know
it was a true crime,

you would think it's a movie.

My name's Scott Michaels,

and this is Dearly
Departed Tours.

And welcome back to 1969.

I put together
the "Helter Skelter Tour"

probably about 13 years ago.

Three weeks prior to
the Tate-LaBianca murders,

the first man walked
on the moon.

A couple of weeks prior
to that,

Judy Garland died in London.

Her funeral in New York kicked
off the Stonewall Riots,

and the Gay Rights Movement
went into full swing.

Myself, I'm obsessed
with the year 1969.

"Incense and Peppermints,"
"White Rabbit,"

Jefferson Airplane.

You got the peace sign,
you got mushrooms.

On the very day of the murders,
August 8th,

just a few hours before the
Tate murders in Beverly Hills,

the Beatles took that
iconic Abbey Road

album cover photograph,
which I think is fascinating,

because they figure
into this case.

This is important to me,
the addresses of Cielo Drive,

and the LaBianca's house
on Waverly Drive,

because I spent so much
of my time in my life

researching them, and I wanted
to commemorate them.

Cielo drive is still
a tourist attraction.

Although the house has been
gone since 1993,

and a new house has been put
in its place.

Roman and Sharon
moved into the house

in February of '69.

It was a rental.

And by the end of March,

both of them had gone to Europe
to do separate projects.

Roman went to London to work
on the script

and pre-production
for "Day of the Dolphin,"

which was a film he planned
to direct, but he never did.

- Va-go-now-mei-nah-her-pas!

- Yes!

- And while they were gone,

Roman had Abigail Folger
and Wojciech

kind of take care of the house.

Cielo Drive
is in the middle

of Benedict Canyon, basically.

This tragic boulevard

that makes its way
from the Sunset Strip,

all the way over
to the San Fernando Valley.

Benedict Canyon is located on...

I think this is official,

like, like a Native American

burial ground.

And I believe somehow,
some way,

something terrible
was wished upon the place,

because there are too many
things that happened

in Benedict Canyon
for it to be a coincidence.

Well, starting from the very
base of Benedict Canyon

is the Beverly Hills Hotel,
where Peter Finch...

- I'm as mad as Hell,

and I'm not gonna take this
anymore!

- the Australian actor died
of a heart attack in the lobby,

winning the first posthumous
Academy Award.

- Peter Finch, in "Network."

- A little bit further up
is where Richard Dreyfus

was nearly killed
in a car crash.

Across the street from where
a musician named Charo lives.

Her husband killed himself in
the alley behind their house.

A Benedict Canyon address.

A little bit further up
was where Elizabeth Montgomery

from "Bewitched"
lived and died,

across the street
from John Ritter's house.

John Riter didn't die
in Benedict Canyon,

but he lived there at the time.

A little bit further up,
Susan Berman was murdered

in Benedict Canyon,

the Durst murders that they
made the documentary about.

About five doors down,
George Reeves, "Superman,"

died of a speeding bullet
to the head.

A little bit further up,

there was a woman by the name
of Yvette Vickers.

She was a B-movie star,
she was in "Sunset Boulevard,"

she was in "The Attack
of the 50 Foot Woman."

She died in her home.
She wasn't found for months.

A little bit further up,

Paul Bern and Jean Harlow's
house.

Paul Bern killed himself
in that house.

Jay Sebring moves
into that house.

Rudolph Valentino lived across
the way from the Tate murders,

and then Doris Duke,
the tobacco heiress,

died in that same house under
very mysterious circumstances.

Her butler inherited something
like $500 billion.

He bought a house in Benedict,
and died a couple months later.

There's so many stories
about Benedict Canyon,

but it all goes up
to Cielo Drive,

where the Tate murders happen.

That seems to be the awful
notorious crown jewel

of Benedict Canyon.

I couldn't believe that
these souls could do that.

We are a family!

Men and Kill every white
mother,

every white babe.

I just was in shock.

I couldn't believe Tex
could do that.

Susan, and Patty.

I remember Tex slapped
the newspaper,

and the headline read
something like,

"Tate-LaBianca Murders."

And he slaps that,
and he says,

"I did this.
Charlie told me to."

My name is Dianne Lake,

former member of the Manson
family,

formerly known as "Snake."

I was 14,

when I got introduced
to Charlie and the girls,

they opened their arms to me,

and I felt wanted,
and I felt loved there.

But I think that what happened

was that he had this experience

of being crucified on acid.

And I think he started to
believe that he was a Messiah,

that's when it really
started to turn was,

you know,
maybe nine months in,

when we got to Spahn Ranch.

He'd been always talking
about this race war.

That's when he started getting
enamored with the White Album,

and that the Beatles were
sending him a message.

Then this black/white race war
became Helter Skelter.

This race war was like
an apocalypse.

You know, a lot of people
were gonna die.

We, as a family,
were going to be preserved.

Charlie wanted us to have
babies for creation,

and that we would help
repopulate the earth.

It seems--

it's kind of crazy
to talk about, but...

you know, um,

but that, you know,
looking back,

that's really, that was--

that was what he wanted to do.

There's an obvious link
from Charles Manson

to "Rosemary's Baby."

The Dakota building was used
as the outside

of the Bramford, as we know.

John Lennon had an apartment
in the Dakota.

And then you say,
okay, well...

the large bulk of the White
Album was written in India,

during a retreat.

And at that retreat
was Mia Farrow.

Mia Farrow, who was
friends with Sharon Tate,

and Roman, hung out
with the Beatles,

went to India with her sister,

songs were named after them,

verses in classic Beatles songs
refer to Mia and her sister.

You mentioned
the White Album,

and John Lennon,
and what's eerie

is that in the scene where
Rosemary is in the taxicab

and she's got that like,
occult book

that she gets from
the bookstore,

in the background, there's
always this white Beetle

that's like, trailing her.

There's a white VW Beetle

that's throughout the film,
actually.

You always see it parked
out front of the building.

A lot of what the film
is dealing with

is what's hidden
in plain sight.

- The Dakota building is
the outside of the Bramford,

and that's where the writer
of those songs

would eventually be murdered.

My gosh, the Dakota,

where "Rosemary's Baby"
was filmed,

and John Lennon was murdered
right in front of it.

News John Lennon gave
his autograph to the gunman

six hours before the senseless
shooting,

in the entrance to his New York
apartment building.

That's sinister.

If you look
at the scene

where the woman jumps
out of a window

in "Rosemary's Baby" and
you know, commits suicide,

Get back.

- It's the exact spot where
John Lennon was shot.

And it's very eerie,

because you're thinking
about the White Album,

and you're thinking
about Helter Skelter.

Then we say, okay,
so Charles Manson,

who plays a big part in the
curse of "Rosemary's Baby,"

He said he was inspired
by songs on the White Album,

and nine months after
the White Album's release,

Charles Manson and the Manson
family

murdered Sharon Tate.

You can find a connection
between anything,

if you look hard enough,

but it doesn't necessarily mean
that it's not true.

If we take a look,
for example, Victoria Vetri,

she's one of the key players
in the curse

of "Rosemary's Baby."

So she only has a bit part
in "Rosemary's Baby."

She plays Terry,

who is taken in by
the Castevets

before she eventually allegedly

throws herself out of a window.

So, Victoria Vetri,

she does also go by the alias
of Angela Dorian.

After "Rosemary's Baby,"

she became very close friends
with Sharon Tate.

After the Manson murders,

Victoria then went into
a dark paranoia.

She doesn't want to go
out at night.

She becomes quite reclusive.

My name is Victoria Vetri,

and I was born in Hollyweird.

I mean, Hollywood.

I did a lot of films
and TV shows.

I still get residuals.

I enjoy being an actress
and entertaining people,

and I love to move.
I love to move!

There's all these films
that I look at

and I'm in shock,
I'm going,

oh my God, I never even got
a chance to see them.

And I'm going,
wow, that was me,

you know, when I was younger.

I'm happy, though.

I'm living with someone that
I really care for right now.

- My name's Mark Melvin,

And I'm a friend
of Victoria Vetri.

You are Victoria's...
- Play toy.

- Bravo, bravo!

- Yeah.

Back in the '60s, she really
had a booming career

in Hollywood going on.

It's been so long
since I looked back

at some of these things.

Maybe I should see them again
so I can remember them,

I mean, as I'm getting older,

my-I'm losing part
of my brains.

No, I'm just kidding.

Do you remember
working with Mia Farrow?

- Vaguely, yeah, I think so.

I mean, I'm trying to remember
what film we--

what we did together.

- My name is Terry Ginoffrio.
- Nice to meet you.

I'm Rosemary Woodhouse.

And that's me,
with the dark wig on.

and I'm washing clothes
back there.

- Did you have to rehearse
this scene at all,

or did you just uh...
- No.

We just went through with it.

I enjoyed working with her too.

What was her name again?

- Mia Farrow.
- Mia Farrow, yes.

Excellent,
beautiful actress, too.

- It's kind of an interesting
story, the way we met,

basically, through the pink car
that Playboy--

- Oh yeah!
- gave her in 1968

for being Playmate of the Year.

- I was Playmate of the Year,

and I had no clothes on.

- I ended up buying
that car in 2010,

and I was excited, I was gonna
meet the Playmate of the Year.

And then three months
afterwards,

I heard that she had shot
her husband.

- I was, I was a bad girl.

- Don't do that again.
- Never.

- Especially not me.
- Oh, I would never hurt you.

You know that.

I only hurt myself.

Well, he's alive.
- He survived, yeah.

- Thank God, but I'm trying
to remember all this.

Oh my gosh,
I don't even know what--

- That's because
of your memory.

- Well, my memory's coming
and going sometimes.

Just...

So...

My name
is Bruce Rathgeb.

Victoria was a waitress
between acting jobs, I guess.

And I was a chef.

So that's how we met,

and kinda had a chemistry
right off,

We were flirtin'
with each other.

We had a great 20 years
together.

The last five,
Baby, you almost killed me.

Oh, Bruce Rathgeb.
Oh dear.

Victoria Rathgeb, eww!

I was in a band,
and she'd be saying,

there was girls at your
rehearsal, and this and that.

I'm saying, no, no, you know.

I don't like to talk
negative about people that I--

you know, once you are married
and living with them,

and they wanna keep you
in their order.

I find out that
he's cheating on me?

Uh-uh! Later.

And I said,
"I'm not gonna fight."

And here she comes
with the gun.

I said, you're gonna shoot me,
really, for-for what?

And I saw her aiming the gun,
and I couldn't watch.

So I turned my back, and...

pop, she shot me in the back.

It went through my lung,

and I guess they went
to operate,

the bullet was a 1/4-inch
from my heart

so they left it in me.

It's still in me now,
traveling around somewhere.

At one point,
my doctor x-rayed me,

and it was in my right
shoulder.

So, yeah, it's crazy.

I loved her.

And I still love her.

She spent eight
years in prison.

- Was it eight years?
Oh my God.

- And she's been on parole
for three years now,

and it's scheduled to end
in one month.

- I'm trying to remember what
the Hell got me in prison,

to be honest, I'm--

- She doesn't-I don't think
she really remembers

the incident so much.

- I don't, it's really weird.

- I think she remembers
that she was in prison.

Maybe she doesn't want
to remember.

Well, I think I wonder
why she really shot me.

She had the gun when I met her.

Um, it was a Walther PPK 9mm.

A very good gun.

- Walther PPK. 7.65 mil,

with a delivery like a brick
through a plate glass window.

- She got it as protection,
uh...

because of the Manson murders.

She had the gun
all those years,

and then ended up shooting me,

instead of Charlie.

- So, "Rosemary's Baby"
was 1968.

The Manson murders happened
in '69, a year later,

but Victoria was invited
to be up there at the house,

and stayed home
for whatever reason.

But uh, she was quite surprised
to wake up the next morning

to find out everybody
that had gone up

to the house that night
was now dead.

Male In a scene
described by one investigator

as reminiscent of a weird
religious rite,

five persons, including actress
Sharon Tate,

were found dead
at the home of Ms. Tate

and her husband, screen
director, Roman Polanski.

The house that had known
a number of movie star tenants,

suddenly became a scene more
tragic than any horror movie.

- We have a weird homicide.

We're trying to piece the thing
together

with what small amount of
physical evidence we have,

and anything that I tell you
at this point

would be mere speculation,

and I'm not gonna speculate.

Male Los Angeles
police are saying little

at this time about possible
progress on solving the murders

of actress Sharon Tate,
and four others.

When Polanski
in his shocked state

arrived back in L.A.,

he saw the police investigation
is going nowhere.

As a result, he started
to undertake some of his own

uh, unofficial detective work.

He suspected everybody.

Roman called my dad
to his bungalow,

and Dad came home,
and he said,

he made me write the word
"pig" over and over again.

And Dad never understood

why Roman asked him to do that.

And he had my father's
handwriting analyzed

to see if it matched
the "pig"

that was written on the walls.

I was shocked.

Tommy Thompson, the
entertainment editor of Life,

was a friend of Roman's.

And Roman said, I need
a photographer to go up

to the house to photograph
it for clues,

for this psychic,
Peter Hurkos.

He was a psychic
to the stars,

whatever that means.

Clues for the psychic
to then analyze your photos?

- Exactly, look at my photos
and get psychic vibrations,

and find out
who the murderer was.

Male Why were you
called in on this case?

A lot of people are somewhat
skeptical of mystics

and clairvoyants, and psychics.

- I have proved it enough,

and I'll take any test
what scientists may impose.

And I like skeptic people,
I approve it.

I wanna understand
how Roman

can put this trust
in the psychic?

- Because it's Hollywood, man!

"Psychic!"

We went up there,

and Roman was already there.

And I asked him,
what am I gonna do?

And he told me,

just photograph everything
I'm looking at,

which I did.

I mean, one of the
pictures is iconic.

It's of Roman sitting
on a chair

in front of the-the open
door to his house,

with the word "pig"
written in blood

that Julian took.

Here's a psychic
solving the crime.

I don't know what
he's looking for.

The blood was so thick,
it was like Jell-o

in the living room,

and the smell is horrible.

Like a slaughterhouse.

That's what it smelled like.

The psychic was kind
of a con artist.

Julian took Polaroids while
he was doing his shooting.

Hurkos sold the pictures
to one of the tabloids.

The Polaroids,
the psychic took

to sell to the Hollywood
Citizen News.

Another Hollywood move,
what else is he gonna do?

When we were
in the desert running,

the girls told me specifically

their part in the murderers.

When Susan was killing Sharon,

or helping kill her,

And Sharon was begging
for the life of her baby,

Susan told me that
she thought about...

cutting the baby out,
and say--rescuing the baby.

What stuck with me even more
than the details,

and the details
were pretty bad,

was the way in which
they told it.

They told it, they were
almost gleeful

about what they had done
for Charlie.

- We wanna take the children
to the desert.

Your children.

There's no reason why
your children should die,

they'll go to the-we'll
take 'em to the desert.

If you give 'em to us.

I am not aware
of the family

Talking about "Rosemary's
Baby," Polanski,

but I can see how people

could compare and contrast

"Rosemary's Baby,"

and this woman giving birth
to a child

that was all engineered
by a family

for this baby then to become
the child of the devil.

The only time
he reacted,

when he was looking at pictures
of Sharon in the bedroom,

and he started crying,

that was the only time
I saw him react.

Did he ever tell you
to stop?

- No, but man, I'm telling you,
I felt that.

- You felt like stopping?

- I-I felt very bad
about this whole scene.

I didn't want to be
around there.

I felt like I was a
graverobber, it was awful.

But you know, what do you do?

You-you're working.

And then the uh,

shot of the nightstand
in their bedroom,

and there's this wedding photo
of Sharon and Roman,

and the princess phone

with black LAPD fingerprint
powder all over it.

That one shot just sums up
the whole thing.

People often ask,

how would you describe evil?

And they will always say,
Adolf Hitler.

And they will always say
Charles Manson.

And I think it's fascinating

that Polanski's family were
killed in a concentration camp,

It's a direct result
of Adolf Hitler.

And his wife and friends
were murdered

as a direct result
of Charles Manson.

That's wild.

That-there is something there
that I can't explain.

There were people
out there who believed

that what happened
to Sharon and to Roman

was karmic retribution
for kind of exploiting

the dark side,
with "Rosemary's Baby."

They were actually
implying

that it was the victim's
own bad behavior

that caused their murders.

Jack Nicholson, who was friends
with Sharon and Roman,

said that Sharon had the
unfortunate circumstance

of being murdered twice.

Once by her actual killers,

and the next time
by the press.

Now, Cielo is right
across the way here.

I-I think that's it.
- It's the street?

- I think. I think, yeah.
That's it.

There's a sign here.
Yeah, there, see?

- Okay, that's Cielo.
- Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, all this is new.

Yeah, when I came here,

there was several
police cars here,

and there was a-a telephone
coming--a line man

at the top of that pole
repairing the cut wire.

I still didn't even know
what happened.

You want the overlook
shot here, turn right.

Yeah, there's the-where
the Polanski house was.

It was a tiny little
red shingle place.

Now you got that.

This thing's probably
five times bigger.

This is L.A. excess,

to the nth degree.

At the end of the
filming of "Rosemary's Baby,"

Mia Farrow bought my father

a beautiful humidor
where you keep cigars in.

On the top of the cover
was a 14-karat-gold devil,

with ruby eyes.

And it said,
"To Bill. Love, Mia."

And it ended up in
a storage unit.

And my husband was in the
storage unit and he called me,

and he said,
what do I do with that?

I'm like, you do nothing.

You just leave it
in that storage unit.

I didn't want anything
to do with it,

because it represented
bad luck.

And even though we might not
completely believe in it,

we were too afraid not to.