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- My name is Rarriwuy Hick,
and I'm playing Toni Alma.
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Toni Alma is an indigenous
woman, an Arrernte woman
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from a fictional remote
aboriginal community
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called Perdar Theendar.
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We meet Toni Alma
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as she returns back to her
community as a detective.
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You really get to see
how challenging it can be
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being an indigenous
woman and a detective
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in an aboriginal community,
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and trying to live
between those two worlds.
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I had the amazing Marie
Ellis, who's from Amoonguna,
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teach me central Arrernte.
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[speaking in Arrernte]
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[Toni speaking in Arrernte]
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[speaking in Arrernte]
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- Yeah.
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[speaking in Arrernte]
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- This is police business now.
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I love language.
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I think language
is so important.
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To me, it's more than just
a form of communication.
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It's a way to
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speak
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to your spirit,
or it's also like,
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it says who you are and where
you come from, you know.
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That's a big part
of your identity,
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whatever language
it is, you know.
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I think we have a
lot of stories that
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hidden stories here in Australia
that still need to be told,
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you know, and
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really being brave with
how we tell our stories,
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I think is important to do that.
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You know, the more we can
learn from one another
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and sit together, and
listen and acknowledge
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the beautiful and rich
culture that we do have here.
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One of the oldest
cultures in the world.
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Once we are able
to do that, I think
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things will really move
and change for all of us.
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And at that point we,
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we being Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islander people
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and people of this country,
will be accepted and things.
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And what better way to do it
than through art, you know,
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through storytelling. This
is something that we're,
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we're so good at.
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Wow.
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This is beautiful.
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[Speaking Arrernte]
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- Paris?
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[Speaking Arrernte]
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[Everyone laughs]
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You really gotta follow Eileen.
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Erica Glynn,
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this is the first
time working with her,
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and that's been
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amazing.
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She is such a powerhouse,
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and someone I really
look up to because she,
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yeah, she's just,
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not only has this whole legacy
that she carries, you know,
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but she's just such
an incredible person
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and this is her
country down here,
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so she's also
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going,
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you know, this is my home.
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You know,
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run with it, you
know, and trust it.
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There's just been a lot of
trust, you know, from everyone.
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And then Uncle
Warren H. Williams,
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he's such a humble, very
humble man, you know,
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He doesn't ever,
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you know, you just,
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And he too,
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like,
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this is his baby.
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And I say this, every
time I say this,
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I get really emotional
when I tell him this, but
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you know when,
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yeah, when someone trusts
you with their story,
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and you know.
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I'm not countryman from here.
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I'm long way from my home,
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but I feel like I've been
embraced by everyone here.
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And.
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And yeah, just that trust
has been really amazing.
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So I've worked with Steven
McGregor quite a few times
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and it's
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so, it's really
nice to come back.
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It's been a while since
I've worked with him,
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so it's nice to come back
and work with him again.
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And also Murray Louie
who's our DOP, you know.
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Feeling like you're
a part of a family
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and that's not
just mob from here,
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but that's also the cast
all cast and crew, you know.
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We knew that this was
something special, you know.
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I remember when we were
in rehearsals and pre
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and I was like,
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Ooh, I have goosebumps.
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I can feel
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there's something
about this show
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that's gonna be groundbreaking.
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And it's different
and it's special.
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[bugs and birds]
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[speaking Arrernte]
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I've been,
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performing, acting
for 12, 13 years now,
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and a lot of my roles, I've
been the victim of something,
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and to play a role where
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she is this strong, determined,
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you know, hard working,
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desired,
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intelligent, black woman
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who is a detective.
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And
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it's different.
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And it's something that I've
been craving for, you know.
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Been craving that
for so long and yeah,
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it's,
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yeah, it's been,
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yeah, it's been a huge
honor playing this role.
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[muffled club music]
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Where the hell would
she wear these?
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- Bingo.
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[club music]
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- Where would Mariah
get this much cash?
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- I don't know.
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- There's over $15,000 there.
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- Teenager with this
much hidden money,
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suggests something illegal,
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drugs, gambling,
selling stolen goods.
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- Yeah, well, she
wouldn't do that.
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She's a good girl.
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- Yeah?
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You didn't know she was
sneaking out to Perdar Theendar.
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You didn't know about the money.
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- Then you tell me.
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You go and find out why she
died and you come and tell me.
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Okay?
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Fuck.
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- This is my first time
working with Luke Arnold.
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I,
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we did a chemistry test just
before doing the shoot. And
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so that was my first
time meeting him.
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And I knew immediately
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meeting him, I was like, Yep,
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this is someone I feel
like we are gonna,
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we are really gonna push each
other to bring out the best
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in each other in
this, in this job.
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And,
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and it has been like that.
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It's been so amazing
working alongside him.
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- Rhonda just wanted an
update on where we're at.
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- Okay.
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- So in total we've
interviewed a number of people
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in Alice Springs
and Perdar Theendar,
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but there's no
major suspects yet.
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And Broderick's account
was pretty similar
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to what Samuel reported,
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Mariah was already on the road,
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all they did, was take
her to the clinic.
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- Did you find out what
happened to his hand?
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- Yes, said he burnt it.
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- Did he say how.
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- Reckon it was another
kangaroo cook up.
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- Do you believe him?
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- No, not for a minute.
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I think he was trying to
get into the burning car.
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- But Mariah was
already on the road.
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- Yeah, exactly.
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He let something else slip
too, said they saw headlights
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of a vehicle driving away
when they approached.
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But when I asked if he knew
the car, he backed off.
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- He's hiding something.
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- Yeah, I reckon.
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- Good work, keep on it.
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Let me know how you go.
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[Nick sighs]
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- Hey Nick, thank you.
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- What the fuck's
going on, Toni?
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- It'll always hold a
special place in my heart
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and
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yeah,
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and it's nice to,
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Yeah, those ranges are amazing.
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You never get sick of
looking at that country.
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You always look
and you're in awe
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and it changes all the time
with the light and everything.
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You're like, Wow.
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I find myself.
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Every day I try and just sit
with the country, you know.
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In the morning or afternoon
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or whenever I just
need some quiet.
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In between takes or scenes
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I just try and sit with the
country and listen to it
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and just be present.
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[suspenseful music]
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- I'm Luke Arnold and
I play Nick Gawler,
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who is not only the recently
declared ex-boyfriend of Toni,
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but also another detective.
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So yeah, we have both
kind of a relationship
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and a work relationship
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that we're working
through during the show.
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- [Woman On Phone]
I'm sending out
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another detective to assist you.
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- Sure.
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Who is it?
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- How to define Nick?
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You know, my idea
was a little bit
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that he was a social
social worker before,
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which I think gives him
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a different way of
working with people.
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And that also,
while he is a cop,
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he's really interested
in Aboriginal culture
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and especially cause
his love of Toni
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and wanting to be
part of her world.
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That while he is coming
in with a job to do
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and he does wanna find
out what happened.
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That that is kind of as
equally important to him
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as understanding the
people in this world.
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[brooding music]
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- She's not here.
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What the fuck? This
woman got no shame.
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- What?
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- The borders are black,
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the artists here don't
paint them like that.
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- Okay,
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but can we focus on
one crime at a time?
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[Toni chuckles]
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- So, where else would
they go to paint?
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Working in Amoonguna,
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and working with
people in the community
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and a lot of local actors
and first time actors
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has been a huge
highlight of this.
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Already being able to
see some of the footage
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of some of these local actors
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who haven't done anything before
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and they're just incredible.
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Feel very kind of humbled
by working alongside them
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and seeing what they bring.
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As well as everyone is
just so forthcoming with
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whether it's teaching
a bit of language
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or a little bit about the land
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and all the smoking
ceremonies we had.
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It's been a real welcoming
and educational experience
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from beginning to end.
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[somber music]
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[kids playing]
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[dogs barking]
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We were really lucky that,
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because of all the
Covid stuff going on,
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a lot of us were able to get
to Alice Springs a bit early,
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which means,
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which meant that Rarriwuy
and I had a lot of time
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to do some rehearsals
at the beginning
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to spend some time together.
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And it's a real privilege
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that you don't get
on a lot of things.
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So it was great because
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we had time to really chart a
relationship through the story
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Because it is a mystery,
it's a detective show
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for a lot of the scenes
that kind of takes the,
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that's where most
of the text is.
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So it was really helpful for us
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that we had this time
to dig into the subtext.
264
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And then also
265
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then we had time
to like, you know,
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go and have a drink
and, you know,
267
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sometimes we were like, you
know, sitting at the pub,
268
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going through all our lines
there and kind of working on it,
269
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which meant that you kind of
get to build the relationship
270
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and kind of these memories
and a sense of each other,
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which really informs us
when we're gonna do scenes,
272
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when we are talking
about the characters
273
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spending time in Alice together.
274
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- How did Samuel handle Xavier?
275
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Was he genuinely
chasing answers?
276
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- You really don't trust
your uncle, do you?
277
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- We know Brendan
was with Mariah,
278
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so those fellahs are
covering something up
279
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and Samuel's letting them.
280
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- Okay,
281
00:16:20,966 --> 00:16:23,006
so how do we find out
who's telling the truth?
282
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I've been working as
an actor in Australia
283
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since I finished drama
school in about 2006.
284
00:16:40,315 --> 00:16:42,834
And this really feels,
more than anything else,
285
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like I'm part of a
real Australian story,
286
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doing something that
hasn't been done before,
287
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showing a side of Australia
288
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that I don't think we've
seen on a TV series before.
289
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Especially because we
hear English and Arrernte,
290
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we're in a community,
we see some things
291
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about aboriginal culture that
292
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I didn't really know about
and especially to this extent.
293
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So I feel really proud
to be part of this story
294
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and I've been learning
a lot as part of it,
295
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as far as being a part of it.
296
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And I feel really proud that
I get to be part of the story
297
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that we get to share
with other people
298
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and show some things
that they might not know.
299
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[phone says Arrernte word]
[Nick repeats Arrernte word]
300
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[speaking in Arrernte]
301
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- I'm Miranda Otto. I'm
playing Isabelle in True Colors
302
00:17:52,985 --> 00:17:54,335
and you wanna introduce
yourself, Marie.
303
00:17:55,434 --> 00:17:57,780
My name's Marie Elena Ellis
304
00:17:57,779 --> 00:18:01,299
and I'm the Arrernte
translator and interpreter
305
00:18:01,298 --> 00:18:02,918
and working closely
with Miranda.
306
00:18:02,918 --> 00:18:03,748
- Yeah.
307
00:18:05,643 --> 00:18:08,503
I first met Marie here,
308
00:18:08,506 --> 00:18:10,403
first of all, she sent
me some recordings,
309
00:18:10,402 --> 00:18:11,885
which was really helpful,
310
00:18:11,885 --> 00:18:15,645
but I realized I was gonna
have to do some serious work.
311
00:18:15,645 --> 00:18:19,441
And then I met Marie at
the production office
312
00:18:19,439 --> 00:18:23,439
and she has this whole amazing
classroom set up in there
313
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,649
with all the dialogue
up on the wall
314
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and it written phonetically
and then it written in Arrernte
315
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and written in English.
316
00:18:31,993 --> 00:18:34,270
- So there's a
character named Viv
317
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that's in episode one, page 37.
318
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In English she's
saying, Hey pull up.
319
00:18:39,306 --> 00:18:40,686
You know, you got no shame.
320
00:18:41,858 --> 00:18:46,171
And then in Arrernte,
[speaking Arrernte]
321
00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:49,447
and then that's
in Arrernte and in
322
00:18:49,445 --> 00:18:52,825
phonetically I break
it down in orange.
323
00:18:52,825 --> 00:18:54,615
It's been a challenge.
324
00:18:54,618 --> 00:18:56,108
Really it's been a challenge.
325
00:18:57,688 --> 00:19:00,098
Yeah working with
you like, you know,
326
00:19:00,102 --> 00:19:02,412
first, second, the
third day you nail it.
327
00:19:02,413 --> 00:19:07,417
You got the sounding of the
words in Arrernte and like,
328
00:19:07,414 --> 00:19:10,934
I was surprised in how
quickly you learnt because
329
00:19:10,932 --> 00:19:15,942
you're my good student because
you listen to instructions.
330
00:19:17,072 --> 00:19:18,866
And the sounding that
you make to sound.
331
00:19:18,865 --> 00:19:20,141
- Thank you.
- You know?
332
00:19:20,141 --> 00:19:23,419
- Yeah. What was really
great was like I,
333
00:19:23,418 --> 00:19:24,898
I'm just one of those people
334
00:19:24,900 --> 00:19:28,420
who like always wants to just
try and get in and nail it
335
00:19:28,419 --> 00:19:30,279
and you're like, relax,
336
00:19:30,281 --> 00:19:31,631
breathe.
- Breathe.
337
00:19:33,178 --> 00:19:36,905
- So like, I could do it better.
I was getting better at it
338
00:19:36,903 --> 00:19:39,526
when I wasn't thinking
about it so much.
339
00:19:39,525 --> 00:19:41,664
- And I keep telling
Miranda to, you know,
340
00:19:41,663 --> 00:19:45,043
just clear your mind, close
your eye, close your mouth
341
00:19:45,042 --> 00:19:48,079
and open your ears and
just inhale and exhale.
342
00:19:48,078 --> 00:19:49,278
And that helped
a lot. Didn't it?
343
00:19:49,285 --> 00:19:51,597
- It did. Actually a lot
of my experience here
344
00:19:51,596 --> 00:19:54,114
has been like that.
I think, you know,
345
00:19:54,113 --> 00:19:58,423
you come in sometimes
with your city mentality,
346
00:19:58,425 --> 00:20:00,702
you know, you're like
fast, fast, busy, busy.
347
00:20:00,701 --> 00:20:03,051
Must do this, must achieve that.
348
00:20:04,806 --> 00:20:07,766
It's been really nice
to be here and just like
349
00:20:07,771 --> 00:20:09,910
settle into things.
350
00:20:09,910 --> 00:20:13,154
And a lot of it is
about listening.
351
00:20:13,152 --> 00:20:16,462
Yeah. You'd say close your
eyes, just listen to what I say.
352
00:20:17,842 --> 00:20:19,712
- Listen to the
rhythm, the sound,
353
00:20:21,292 --> 00:20:22,422
when we speaking.
354
00:20:23,603 --> 00:20:25,189
And that's the easiest
way to learn it,
355
00:20:25,188 --> 00:20:27,948
is listening to the
sound and the rhythm.
356
00:20:27,948 --> 00:20:29,848
Like the one you got like
357
00:20:31,467 --> 00:20:33,813
[speaking Arrernte]
358
00:20:33,812 --> 00:20:35,052
Remember that?
359
00:20:35,053 --> 00:20:37,572
- Yes, We spent a
long time on Akaltja.
360
00:20:37,571 --> 00:20:39,671
- Mmm. Akaltja.
361
00:20:39,675 --> 00:20:41,572
And you keep saying
Aah-kiii-tcha
362
00:20:41,571 --> 00:20:43,296
And I said Aah-kal-tcha.
363
00:20:43,296 --> 00:20:44,256
And I said you gotta say
it like, you mean like.
364
00:20:44,262 --> 00:20:45,986
- Like you're a desert woman.
365
00:20:45,986 --> 00:20:48,536
- Yeah. You gotta say
it like you mean it.
366
00:20:48,539 --> 00:20:51,265
[speaking Arrernte]
367
00:20:51,264 --> 00:20:54,134
- If you must know
my fee is 60%.
368
00:20:55,023 --> 00:20:56,265
If you're that interested,
369
00:20:56,265 --> 00:20:57,815
I could sell you
one at family rates.
370
00:21:03,231 --> 00:21:04,231
- How much?
371
00:21:04,232 --> 00:21:05,062
- For family
372
00:21:06,887 --> 00:21:09,367
45, 50,000.
373
00:21:13,198 --> 00:21:16,200
[speaking Arrernte]
374
00:21:16,199 --> 00:21:18,889
Cause you were saying
Arrernte is different
375
00:21:18,890 --> 00:21:22,200
to like all the different
indigenous languages
376
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,684
in Australia are all different.
377
00:21:23,684 --> 00:21:25,854
But that this one,
you were saying,
378
00:21:25,856 --> 00:21:30,866
was particularly
straightforward and like very
379
00:21:32,030 --> 00:21:35,170
like not loose and slow.
It's very like direct.
380
00:21:35,169 --> 00:21:35,996
- Direct, direct.
381
00:21:35,996 --> 00:21:38,546
No time waster.
382
00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:39,790
- Yeah.
383
00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:41,440
- You know, you got
no time to waste.
384
00:21:41,446 --> 00:21:44,310
You just gotta say it,
communicate, and then move on.
385
00:21:44,309 --> 00:21:46,829
- Yeah.
- It's like bang and then go.
386
00:21:48,034 --> 00:21:48,794
It's like
387
00:21:50,621 --> 00:21:52,691
in the desert, it's all about
388
00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:56,140
that communication. You gotta
say it straight to, you know,
389
00:21:56,138 --> 00:22:00,728
you gotta walk maybe a
hundred Ks or whatever
390
00:22:00,726 --> 00:22:01,966
to the nearest water hole.
391
00:22:01,968 --> 00:22:04,383
So you have to have
that minimum language
392
00:22:04,382 --> 00:22:06,622
and that clear
instruction and direction.
393
00:22:06,624 --> 00:22:07,484
- Yeah.
394
00:22:07,486 --> 00:22:09,521
And like, yeah.
395
00:22:09,521 --> 00:22:12,005
And Arrernte is the hardest
language in, you know,
396
00:22:12,004 --> 00:22:16,484
to try and learn to speak
it and learn it and whatever
397
00:22:16,488 --> 00:22:19,248
in two weeks or whatever.
- Yeah.
398
00:22:19,247 --> 00:22:20,661
- But I think you'd nailed it.
399
00:22:20,661 --> 00:22:21,901
You've nailed it. Definitely.
400
00:22:21,903 --> 00:22:24,007
- You're so, so kind.
401
00:22:24,006 --> 00:22:25,246
You're so kind.
402
00:22:25,248 --> 00:22:28,354
- And every time
you said it on set,
403
00:22:28,353 --> 00:22:30,630
like when you was
doin' your line, like,
404
00:22:30,629 --> 00:22:34,419
I get these goosebumps and I
was like, yes, she nailed it.
405
00:22:34,423 --> 00:22:37,839
Yeah. Because like you
listen to direction.
406
00:22:37,837 --> 00:22:42,597
- What does it feel like to
have your language spoken
407
00:22:42,596 --> 00:22:44,326
in a television show?
408
00:22:45,287 --> 00:22:46,457
- Well, it's gonna be awesome.
409
00:22:46,459 --> 00:22:47,559
It's gonna be like,
410
00:22:48,977 --> 00:22:52,287
it's gonna make a lot of
Arrernte nation proud, really.
411
00:23:05,843 --> 00:23:07,430
- I mean, for me
that's one of the most,
412
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:09,530
the things I'm proudest
of with the series
413
00:23:09,533 --> 00:23:12,983
that we've managed to
get Arrernte language in,
414
00:23:14,189 --> 00:23:15,707
you know.
415
00:23:15,707 --> 00:23:19,296
When you in Central Australia,
when you're in Alice Springs,
416
00:23:19,294 --> 00:23:22,813
it's very, very
difficult to ignore
417
00:23:22,812 --> 00:23:25,020
that there are many,
many Aboriginal languages
418
00:23:25,019 --> 00:23:27,297
alive and being spoken.
419
00:23:27,296 --> 00:23:29,606
Doesn't matter what
culture you come from,
420
00:23:29,606 --> 00:23:33,296
white fellas, black fellas,
Africans, Indians, Asians.
421
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,050
Aboriginal language is alive
422
00:23:36,056 --> 00:23:39,472
and very, very
present in this town.
423
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:42,920
And to actually make
a series without it
424
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,450
would be incredibly odd, set
this town, like really odd.
425
00:23:48,748 --> 00:23:51,818
So, and as you probably know,
426
00:23:51,818 --> 00:23:55,888
that guy who came up with the
initial idea, Warren Williams,
427
00:23:55,887 --> 00:23:58,924
he's an Arrernte Man, so,
and he's from, you know,
428
00:23:58,923 --> 00:24:00,963
born and bred in
this town. And so
429
00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:03,717
it was natural
430
00:24:03,717 --> 00:24:04,957
that we were gonna head
to the Arrernte language,
431
00:24:04,958 --> 00:24:08,408
because Alice Springs
is on Arrernte land.
432
00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:12,306
And it's a joy for me
because that's my background.
433
00:24:12,305 --> 00:24:14,444
I come from community
media where we,
434
00:24:14,444 --> 00:24:15,684
a lot of our work
435
00:24:15,685 --> 00:24:19,757
was about giving space
to aboriginal languages.
436
00:24:19,754 --> 00:24:21,134
And
437
00:24:21,134 --> 00:24:22,754
look, to be honest,
438
00:24:22,755 --> 00:24:25,895
the rest of the country
are doing little bit better
439
00:24:25,893 --> 00:24:27,413
in understanding
440
00:24:28,756 --> 00:24:31,996
the value of the languages
from this country,
441
00:24:31,999 --> 00:24:34,897
the original languages
from this country.
442
00:24:34,895 --> 00:24:36,689
But perhaps they're
not doing enough.
443
00:24:36,689 --> 00:24:38,759
So it's good. I'm really,
yeah, like I said,
444
00:24:38,758 --> 00:24:41,726
I'm really, really proud to,
you know, give it another boost
445
00:24:41,725 --> 00:24:43,135
and put it in people's faces
446
00:24:43,139 --> 00:24:46,244
and let them feel it
and hear it and see it.
447
00:24:46,242 --> 00:24:48,342
And I know that a
lot of our local cast
448
00:24:48,347 --> 00:24:51,597
are very, very happy about
us taking that approach.
449
00:24:53,314 --> 00:24:56,324
[speaking Arrernte]
450
00:25:11,282 --> 00:25:12,622
- Yeah, they're beautiful.
451
00:25:14,076 --> 00:25:17,630
But I'm actually looking for
this lady right here, Yvette.
452
00:25:17,628 --> 00:25:18,458
Do you know her?
453
00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:25,183
[speaking Arrernte]
454
00:25:25,181 --> 00:25:27,181
No, I don't wanna
buy her paintings.
455
00:25:27,182 --> 00:25:29,252
I just wanna talk to her.
456
00:25:29,251 --> 00:25:32,251
[speaking Arrernte]
457
00:25:44,738 --> 00:25:45,598
- Which clinic?
458
00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:48,595
- You, bigshot. Figure it out.
459
00:25:59,154 --> 00:26:00,874
- For me. I mean,
460
00:26:00,879 --> 00:26:02,707
I live between Alice
Springs and Sydney,
461
00:26:02,707 --> 00:26:06,192
and when I walk down the
street in Sydney where I live,
462
00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:09,500
every single house has an
Aboriginal artwork on its wall.
463
00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:11,501
And, you know,
464
00:26:11,502 --> 00:26:13,917
that's bloody fantastic
465
00:26:13,916 --> 00:26:17,746
because the art industry is a
vital part of this community.
466
00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:21,298
But I don't know
that everybody knows,
467
00:26:21,297 --> 00:26:23,505
They might know a little bit
of the story of that artwork.
468
00:26:23,504 --> 00:26:27,054
They might know some
of the symbolism in it,
469
00:26:27,056 --> 00:26:30,473
but I don't know if they know
where it really comes from,
470
00:26:30,472 --> 00:26:32,472
where it's, and you know,
471
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,336
I think it's important for
them to understand that.
472
00:26:36,335 --> 00:26:39,475
So, you know, we chose
to set our mystery
473
00:26:39,473 --> 00:26:44,473
in the aboriginal art world,
and to give it some context
474
00:26:45,578 --> 00:26:46,818
for the deeper
meaning of that art.
475
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:49,028
And you know, that there
are owners of that art
476
00:26:49,027 --> 00:26:51,167
and other caretakers of that art
477
00:26:54,235 --> 00:26:55,715
or that, you know,
478
00:26:55,718 --> 00:26:58,968
people are willing to go to
great lengths to protect that.
479
00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:03,718
[speaking Arrernte]
480
00:27:06,548 --> 00:27:08,065
- Yeah,
481
00:27:08,065 --> 00:27:08,895
of course.
482
00:27:12,307 --> 00:27:14,237
We've got boomerangs,
483
00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:17,722
spears,
484
00:27:17,722 --> 00:27:19,272
digging sticks,
485
00:27:19,274 --> 00:27:21,554
grinding stones, shields,
486
00:27:23,414 --> 00:27:25,104
men and women together,
487
00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:30,695
hunting and traveling from
waterhole to waterhole.
488
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,350
- Almost.
489
00:27:41,831 --> 00:27:45,868
It's actually young people
hunting in the Sand hills.
490
00:27:45,866 --> 00:27:49,146
It talks about how they
used to walk around naked
491
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:52,039
and how they'd swim together
492
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,770
and make love by the waterholes.
493
00:27:55,385 --> 00:27:56,385
It's beautiful. Huh?
494
00:28:00,593 --> 00:28:01,393
- Great.
495
00:28:11,355 --> 00:28:15,358
- It is a common experience
for a lot of aboriginal people
496
00:28:15,355 --> 00:28:18,455
that they are for some reason
497
00:28:18,459 --> 00:28:21,944
distant from their homelands
and their communities.
498
00:28:21,942 --> 00:28:22,772
And
499
00:28:24,736 --> 00:28:28,360
When Rarriwuy Hick, who
is our lead actress,
500
00:28:28,358 --> 00:28:29,458
read the script, she said,
501
00:28:29,461 --> 00:28:31,566
Oh my gosh, this is my story.
502
00:28:31,565 --> 00:28:33,975
I actually lived
away from my home,
503
00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:36,982
away from my family
for quite a lot of time
504
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:38,940
and I've had to renegotiate it.
505
00:28:38,946 --> 00:28:42,190
And in the process
of negotiating my way
506
00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:43,978
and reconnecting with my family
507
00:28:45,362 --> 00:28:49,742
and one of the big themes
in our series is that,
508
00:28:49,741 --> 00:28:50,571
and
509
00:28:51,397 --> 00:28:52,877
yeah,
510
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,225
she's probably not the only
person to have said that
511
00:28:54,225 --> 00:28:55,705
when she's read the
scripts. It's like,
512
00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:58,368
Oh, this is my story. This
is my story, you know.
513
00:28:59,985 --> 00:29:04,995
[speaking Arrernte]
[Toni laughing]
514
00:29:14,574 --> 00:29:15,919
- Yeah I know, mum.
515
00:29:15,919 --> 00:29:16,749
I'm sorry.
516
00:29:26,335 --> 00:29:27,991
- People are still living
517
00:29:27,991 --> 00:29:31,580
in very, very close
family group situations
518
00:29:31,578 --> 00:29:35,995
and our families are often
very big and very extended,
519
00:29:35,992 --> 00:29:38,890
and that's your world, you know.
520
00:29:38,889 --> 00:29:41,539
And so it felt right
521
00:29:41,545 --> 00:29:44,035
that our lead cop
522
00:29:44,959 --> 00:29:47,269
is investigating her own family.
523
00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:50,445
And in fact, you know, to
be honest, what happened was
524
00:29:50,444 --> 00:29:53,169
Warren said who he wanted
the murderer to be.
525
00:29:53,168 --> 00:29:56,168
When he first sort of pitched
it with his one line idea,
526
00:29:56,168 --> 00:29:58,378
he said, and I want
the murderer to be.
527
00:29:59,824 --> 00:30:01,414
- You said you'd bring him back.
528
00:30:03,929 --> 00:30:04,819
Now he's dead.
529
00:30:05,654 --> 00:30:06,794
What the fuck happened?
530
00:30:09,964 --> 00:30:10,784
[speaking Arrernte]
531
00:30:10,793 --> 00:30:11,623
- In English!
532
00:30:15,207 --> 00:30:16,037
- I found him.
533
00:30:17,035 --> 00:30:18,553
He knew he was in trouble.
534
00:30:18,553 --> 00:30:19,383
He took off.
535
00:30:20,415 --> 00:30:21,381
Crashed.
536
00:30:21,381 --> 00:30:22,241
And now he's,
537
00:30:23,382 --> 00:30:24,382
finished up.
538
00:30:26,589 --> 00:30:27,559
- Did you go alone?
539
00:30:29,072 --> 00:30:30,482
Did you take anyone with you?
540
00:30:31,935 --> 00:30:34,523
Was he sung, punishment for
stealing those paintings?
541
00:30:34,522 --> 00:30:36,557
[speaking Arrernte]
542
00:30:36,556 --> 00:30:37,796
- You've got no fuckin' respect.
543
00:30:37,798 --> 00:30:39,458
- Don't you hide
behind our culture.
544
00:30:40,626 --> 00:30:42,696
Sleeping with
Isabelle? Drinking?
545
00:30:43,937 --> 00:30:45,137
You're full of shit.
546
00:30:47,352 --> 00:30:49,802
You choose the cultural
line when it suits you.
547
00:30:49,801 --> 00:30:51,698
- I know where my line is.
548
00:30:51,697 --> 00:30:55,147
I might have broken whitefella
law, not my family law.
549
00:31:10,805 --> 00:31:12,909
- Amoonguna
community just rocks.
550
00:31:12,908 --> 00:31:15,738
You cannot pay for this
stuff. You cannot set it up.
551
00:31:15,737 --> 00:31:18,807
You cannot art direct
it. You cannot direct it.
552
00:31:18,807 --> 00:31:22,603
The massive, massive backing,
the massive involvement,
553
00:31:22,601 --> 00:31:26,841
the day to day just
graciousness and
554
00:31:27,774 --> 00:31:28,974
support,
555
00:31:28,981 --> 00:31:31,711
and to my great relief
556
00:31:33,188 --> 00:31:35,017
pride it's bringing to people.
557
00:31:35,017 --> 00:31:37,907
Like you're seeing people
lift their heads and be amazed
558
00:31:37,914 --> 00:31:39,363
and do amazing things
559
00:31:39,362 --> 00:31:41,950
that they thought that
they would never do before.
560
00:31:41,949 --> 00:31:43,743
Like, it just gives
561
00:31:43,743 --> 00:31:46,983
A. it gives me
deep satisfaction,
562
00:31:46,984 --> 00:31:50,711
but it just gives me
pride for them too.
563
00:31:50,709 --> 00:31:52,814
Like, you could not
ask for anything else.
564
00:31:52,814 --> 00:31:57,224
You could not ask for
for more. You couldn't.
565
00:31:59,436 --> 00:32:01,756
- [Isabelle] If we don't
find her, I'm screwed.
566
00:32:02,678 --> 00:32:04,644
I'm sure Xavier's involved.
567
00:32:04,643 --> 00:32:06,953
We should have Xavier
charged with kidnapping.
568
00:32:10,886 --> 00:32:14,546
[speaking foreign language]
569
00:32:30,684 --> 00:32:32,094
Uuh, careful.
570
00:32:32,098 --> 00:32:33,995
Speaking another language
will make me think
571
00:32:33,994 --> 00:32:36,304
that you're trying to
hide something from me.
572
00:32:37,339 --> 00:32:38,819
- Hey, you are good.
573
00:32:38,823 --> 00:32:39,723
You noticed.
574
00:32:40,755 --> 00:32:42,955
- That's Latji language.
575
00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,549
It's from southside.
576
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:47,759
We had a bet you'd be able
to pick it up, our loss.
577
00:32:51,481 --> 00:32:54,451
[panicked Arrernte]
578
00:33:06,243 --> 00:33:07,864
- Is he breathing?
579
00:33:07,863 --> 00:33:08,963
Can you tell if he's breathing?
580
00:33:12,071 --> 00:33:15,071
[speaking Arrernte]
581
00:33:15,071 --> 00:33:16,421
- Brendan, Brendan, Brendan.
582
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,316
- There's no doubt
that the local casting
583
00:33:22,315 --> 00:33:26,075
done by Peta-Lee
and Tanith is like,
584
00:33:26,074 --> 00:33:27,661
they've knocked it
out of the ballpark.
585
00:33:27,661 --> 00:33:30,971
Every single person that
stands in front of that camera
586
00:33:30,972 --> 00:33:34,595
has been ready
and willing to go.
587
00:33:34,593 --> 00:33:36,143
And they want to perfect it.
588
00:33:36,145 --> 00:33:41,145
And they are, they sizzle
on screen. It's just,
589
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,419
I'm so thankful
because, you know,
590
00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:45,906
I wondered whether or not
591
00:33:45,906 --> 00:33:49,836
we were gonna be able to
pull this off, and we have.
592
00:34:17,637 --> 00:34:18,774
In the first instance,
593
00:34:18,774 --> 00:34:20,500
that they have a
bloody great experience
594
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,397
watching a great narrative,
595
00:34:22,396 --> 00:34:25,946
a great kind of story journey
and stuff. But you know,
596
00:34:27,501 --> 00:34:30,431
I'm a black filmmaker.
My responsibility is never, you know,
597
00:34:30,433 --> 00:34:32,710
there are dual
responsibilities with what I do
598
00:34:32,709 --> 00:34:34,295
in everything that I make.
599
00:34:34,295 --> 00:34:37,225
I've gotta make this
be a great story.
600
00:34:37,226 --> 00:34:40,055
I've also gotta give
insights into my community,
601
00:34:40,054 --> 00:34:44,403
insights into our world and
insights into our culture.
602
00:34:44,401 --> 00:34:47,541
And not in a fake way. I've
gotta do that in a real way,
603
00:34:47,539 --> 00:34:52,549
in a way that gives my community
pride and makes them go,
604
00:34:53,299 --> 00:34:54,438
Yes, that's right.
605
00:34:54,438 --> 00:34:56,749
I feel like I'm
represented correctly.
606
00:34:56,748 --> 00:34:59,848
So yeah, that's the big
hope. And it's not easy.
607
00:34:59,852 --> 00:35:03,752
None of that's easy. So, and
we're not quite there yet.
608
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,090
[women wailing]
609
00:35:09,819 --> 00:35:12,549
[paint smearing]
610
00:35:37,067 --> 00:35:40,067
[wailing continues]
611
00:35:52,104 --> 00:35:55,514
[melancholy hawk squawk]
612
00:36:32,734 --> 00:36:34,113
- My name's Steve McGregor.
613
00:36:34,113 --> 00:36:36,460
I'm one of the directors
along with Erica Glynn
614
00:36:36,459 --> 00:36:37,699
and also one of the writers
615
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,670
along with Erica and
Danielle MacLean.
616
00:36:41,838 --> 00:36:44,875
For me what True
Colors represents
617
00:36:44,874 --> 00:36:48,804
is family, culture,
land, and law.
618
00:36:50,392 --> 00:36:52,532
And all that is
represented in the artwork,
619
00:36:52,531 --> 00:36:55,151
which comes from the
land and the law.
620
00:36:55,152 --> 00:36:58,465
And our main character, Toni,
who's played by Rarriwuy Hick,
621
00:36:58,463 --> 00:37:00,633
is thrust in the
middle of that story,
622
00:37:00,635 --> 00:37:04,815
that confluence of
thematic storylines.
623
00:37:05,981 --> 00:37:09,570
And she has to navigate
her way through that.
624
00:37:09,568 --> 00:37:11,638
So she's at the center
of that narrative.
625
00:37:25,399 --> 00:37:29,019
Now I've known Erica for a
very, very long time and there's
626
00:37:29,021 --> 00:37:30,435
very lucky to work with her.
627
00:37:30,435 --> 00:37:32,505
I've worked with her
in various capacities
628
00:37:32,504 --> 00:37:34,674
but not co-directing before,
629
00:37:34,677 --> 00:37:37,402
and it's a very
respectful relationship.
630
00:37:37,401 --> 00:37:38,951
You know, I think
631
00:37:38,954 --> 00:37:41,818
I know we're leaning
on each other at times
632
00:37:41,817 --> 00:37:44,297
and we just
questioning storylines
633
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:45,507
or a way to approach things.
634
00:37:45,507 --> 00:37:48,477
So it's a very open
dialogue and sharing.
635
00:37:49,818 --> 00:37:51,163
You know, if we take the
storyline this way or that way
636
00:37:51,163 --> 00:37:53,233
or how are you
shaping the character.
637
00:37:53,233 --> 00:37:55,923
So when I'm directing those
actors, that they're not thrown.
638
00:37:55,923 --> 00:37:59,892
It's like, a clean line for
the character's journey.
639
00:37:59,889 --> 00:38:01,199
So no, it's been really good.
640
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,546
And also being in the
story room with her
641
00:38:03,546 --> 00:38:07,721
alongside Danielle MacLean
and Warren Williams.
642
00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:09,818
You know, we came
up with a story.
643
00:38:09,823 --> 00:38:11,653
So we're both
intimately involved.
644
00:38:22,583 --> 00:38:23,893
It's exciting cause you write it
645
00:38:23,894 --> 00:38:25,894
and people make things
happen, you know.
646
00:38:27,102 --> 00:38:28,752
It's all there. So
it's been amazing.
647
00:38:28,758 --> 00:38:32,001
And then you get
actors to say the words
648
00:38:31,999 --> 00:38:34,138
and then they bring
their craft to it
649
00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:36,517
and then they do things that
you'd never expected before
650
00:38:36,517 --> 00:38:38,035
and it brings it to life.
651
00:38:38,035 --> 00:38:40,585
It's just exciting to see
everyone working so hard
652
00:38:40,587 --> 00:38:44,383
to bring it to life. And
it's interesting, like,
653
00:38:44,381 --> 00:38:45,968
I like the fact that I'm not,
654
00:38:45,968 --> 00:38:47,865
I'm directing Danielle's
script, not one of my,
655
00:38:47,864 --> 00:38:52,143
I'm directing one of my own,
but also directing Danielle's
656
00:38:52,141 --> 00:38:54,141
and interpreting her words.
657
00:38:54,141 --> 00:38:56,141
And Erica's directing
one of my scripts
658
00:38:56,142 --> 00:38:57,867
and she's coming at
it with her voice
659
00:38:57,866 --> 00:39:01,626
and her sense of
stories. And you know,
660
00:39:01,626 --> 00:39:03,726
basically once you hand a
script over to a director,
661
00:39:03,730 --> 00:39:05,980
I think you have to give
over that ownership.
662
00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:09,660
- I gotta go to my
family's out station.
663
00:39:09,662 --> 00:39:11,422
I think Brendan
might be out there.
664
00:39:12,283 --> 00:39:13,732
- All right, I'll come with you.
665
00:39:13,732 --> 00:39:16,502
- You can't, I gotta go alone.
666
00:39:17,492 --> 00:39:18,702
- How's that gonna work?
667
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:22,250
If Brendan killed Mariah.
668
00:39:23,838 --> 00:39:26,008
Toni, we can't have him
arrested by his own sister.
669
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:28,322
- My uncle Ezekiel is out there,
670
00:39:28,321 --> 00:39:29,591
He's the big boss for all of us.
671
00:39:29,597 --> 00:39:31,874
He's not gonna let his
nephew jump in the car
672
00:39:31,873 --> 00:39:32,913
with a white cop.
673
00:39:33,909 --> 00:39:34,739
- Okay,
674
00:39:36,254 --> 00:39:38,082
but don't interview him.
675
00:39:38,082 --> 00:39:39,738
Don't even talk to him.
676
00:39:39,737 --> 00:39:43,427
Just bring him back here and
we do it together, officially.
677
00:39:52,809 --> 00:39:54,051
- Well I think
it's very important
678
00:39:54,051 --> 00:39:55,531
because a lot of
people down south
679
00:39:55,534 --> 00:39:57,464
have no idea that
this world exists.
680
00:39:57,465 --> 00:40:00,432
And there's a whole system of
governance and law and culture
681
00:40:00,431 --> 00:40:05,331
that's been here since, you
know, the first sun rose.
682
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:09,021
And to have language, which
is identity, you know,
683
00:40:09,019 --> 00:40:11,119
we're saying
identity exists here
684
00:40:11,123 --> 00:40:13,813
and that's the
Australian identity.
685
00:40:13,813 --> 00:40:16,263
And it ain't going anywhere. So,
686
00:40:16,262 --> 00:40:17,814
And it gives
687
00:40:17,814 --> 00:40:19,674
Aboriginal and Torres
Strait Islander people pride
688
00:40:19,677 --> 00:40:21,782
to hear language on
television screens
689
00:40:21,781 --> 00:40:23,160
cause it's never
heard, you know,
690
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,950
not in this sense where
a whole drama series
691
00:40:25,954 --> 00:40:27,541
is based in a community.
692
00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:29,610
And you can just see
a lot of our actors,
693
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:32,405
who aren't professional
actors, they come to life,
694
00:40:32,403 --> 00:40:35,023
the fact that they can speak
their language on television
695
00:40:35,024 --> 00:40:37,060
and they're up against
some good actors
696
00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:38,400
and they're holding
their ground, you know,
697
00:40:38,405 --> 00:40:39,615
they're not intimidated.
698
00:40:40,509 --> 00:40:42,369
And I think it's really special.
699
00:40:47,993 --> 00:40:49,033
- What did he say?
700
00:40:50,165 --> 00:40:53,135
[speaking Arrernte]
701
00:40:59,374 --> 00:41:00,864
- How many men were out there?
702
00:41:01,685 --> 00:41:04,307
[speaking in Arrernte]
703
00:41:04,306 --> 00:41:06,026
- How long were they
out in the desert for?
704
00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:07,307
- You got a couple of weeks.
705
00:41:07,307 --> 00:41:08,894
- Couple of weeks?
706
00:41:08,893 --> 00:41:11,683
I thought men's business
went for months.
707
00:41:11,687 --> 00:41:14,697
[speaking Arrernte]
708
00:41:27,759 --> 00:41:29,726
- Every day's a highlight,
every day's a challenge.
709
00:41:29,726 --> 00:41:31,174
But it's,
710
00:41:31,174 --> 00:41:34,964
I mean we have a really
hardworking, respectful crew.
711
00:41:34,968 --> 00:41:36,486
You know, you're only
as good as your crew.
712
00:41:36,486 --> 00:41:40,006
So you have that support
behind you. And I think,
713
00:41:41,176 --> 00:41:44,385
I mean basically that's
my highlight, really.
714
00:41:44,383 --> 00:41:48,623
Cause a lot of these crew mob
haven't been up here before,
715
00:41:48,626 --> 00:41:49,866
you know.
716
00:41:49,868 --> 00:41:51,498
And they've all
been overwhelmed and
717
00:41:53,765 --> 00:41:57,354
taken in by the countryside,
the people, the culture.
718
00:41:57,352 --> 00:41:59,456
So I think they will
take that back with them,
719
00:41:59,455 --> 00:42:02,354
which is very important, you
know, and share those stories.
720
00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:04,523
And a lot of 'em said they
wanna come back or hang around
721
00:42:04,526 --> 00:42:07,320
and, you know, explore
the countryside.
722
00:42:07,319 --> 00:42:10,114
So I mean that's another
highlight. Sharing stories.
723
00:42:10,113 --> 00:42:12,383
And I'm listening
to crew members
724
00:42:12,389 --> 00:42:14,356
getting taught language by Marie
725
00:42:14,356 --> 00:42:16,840
and you know, Warren and
that, and they're all,
726
00:42:16,839 --> 00:42:19,459
they're very inquisitive.
727
00:42:19,459 --> 00:42:21,668
And it's not just
tokenism either.
728
00:42:21,668 --> 00:42:23,218
It's genuine.
729
00:42:23,219 --> 00:42:26,221
They wanna learn and listen.
So that's another highlight.
730
00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:29,910
Yeah. But like I say,
every day is a highlight.
731
00:42:43,534 --> 00:42:45,258
- My name is Warren H. Williams.
732
00:42:45,258 --> 00:42:48,948
I'm a western Arrernte man
and I'm also a Waramanga man
733
00:42:51,536 --> 00:42:53,536
from my grandmother's side.
734
00:42:53,536 --> 00:42:55,226
Waramanga is Weston Creek way.
735
00:42:57,537 --> 00:42:58,987
And the character Samuel
736
00:43:02,021 --> 00:43:03,541
is someone that I've known.
737
00:43:04,746 --> 00:43:06,643
He's my father, he's my
brother, he's my cousin,
738
00:43:06,642 --> 00:43:08,372
he's my son, he's my, you know.
739
00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:13,128
And, he's that person
740
00:43:13,126 --> 00:43:15,606
that will always
be there for you.
741
00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:18,335
You know, that's who Samuel is.
742
00:43:18,334 --> 00:43:20,444
When I think of who Samuel is.
743
00:43:25,232 --> 00:43:27,785
- I thought it was
a dry community.
744
00:43:27,784 --> 00:43:29,064
- Oh it is.
745
00:43:31,785 --> 00:43:34,205
- That's not a good look,
local copper drinking.
746
00:43:35,855 --> 00:43:38,855
[speaking Arrernte]
747
00:43:39,891 --> 00:43:41,381
- Who else do you drink with?
748
00:43:42,615 --> 00:43:45,795
[answers in Arrernte]
749
00:44:02,551 --> 00:44:05,587
- Well, Samuel is uncle to Toni,
750
00:44:05,585 --> 00:44:10,002
the detective who's come
back to Perdar Theendar.
751
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,860
Perdar Theendar is the community
752
00:44:11,862 --> 00:44:16,872
that is where Sam's from and
that's where Toni is from.
753
00:44:19,484 --> 00:44:22,214
Samuel is Toni's uncle,
754
00:44:23,313 --> 00:44:25,933
brother to Tony's mother, Viv.
755
00:44:26,796 --> 00:44:30,143
So, and he's a policeman.
756
00:44:30,142 --> 00:44:32,862
Policeman out the community.
757
00:44:32,867 --> 00:44:35,497
So he's both law to white
law and blackfella law.
758
00:44:40,351 --> 00:44:44,354
- No, I have to know
what Xavier has to say.
759
00:44:44,351 --> 00:44:46,251
- You will, Me and
Nick will tell you.
760
00:44:47,801 --> 00:44:49,081
- Eileen's still missing.
761
00:44:50,388 --> 00:44:51,215
Why don't you concentrate
on finding her?
762
00:44:51,215 --> 00:44:52,935
- This is fine. Remara.
763
00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:54,769
- How do you know if
you haven't found her?
764
00:44:54,768 --> 00:44:57,218
- You want me to check on
Brendan's alibi or not?
765
00:45:03,873 --> 00:45:06,293
[Toni sighs]
766
00:45:21,843 --> 00:45:23,323
- Again, a lot of
people don't realize
767
00:45:23,326 --> 00:45:27,640
that Arrernte is western
Arrernte, central Arrernte,
768
00:45:27,637 --> 00:45:30,877
eastern Arrernte. Then there's
Amoonguna, which is Northern
769
00:45:30,879 --> 00:45:32,673
and Pmarntwe, which is Southern.
770
00:45:32,672 --> 00:45:36,362
So there's Eastern,
Central and Western
771
00:45:36,362 --> 00:45:39,399
and Arrernte spoken
and also literature,
772
00:45:39,398 --> 00:45:40,878
bit a literature
chucked in there.
773
00:45:40,881 --> 00:45:42,921
And then there's English
chucked in there too. So,
774
00:45:44,364 --> 00:45:47,084
but it's so good to have
all them languages spoken
775
00:45:49,124 --> 00:45:51,124
and it is so
776
00:45:51,124 --> 00:45:55,644
so good to have all
those languages spoken,
777
00:45:55,643 --> 00:45:56,504
you know,
778
00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:58,402
at the same place.
779
00:45:58,402 --> 00:46:00,022
Yeah, it's so good at same time.
780
00:46:05,299 --> 00:46:06,129
- Eileen.
781
00:46:09,162 --> 00:46:12,272
[Speaking Arrernte]
782
00:46:28,201 --> 00:46:29,441
- Is there a reason
783
00:46:29,442 --> 00:46:31,372
you're not painting
for Isabelle anymore?
784
00:46:40,341 --> 00:46:42,551
Do you know what happened
to that marla gou?
785
00:46:46,963 --> 00:46:49,963
[speaking Arrernte]
786
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:59,899
- I wish I could help.
787
00:47:04,036 --> 00:47:06,456
[Toni sighs]
788
00:47:16,038 --> 00:47:18,628
- My best highlight would be,
789
00:47:20,108 --> 00:47:23,076
I remember when we were at the
production, first production,
790
00:47:23,074 --> 00:47:24,724
the big one, in the office.
791
00:47:24,730 --> 00:47:29,080
And I was sitting next to Steve
and Erica was next to me and
792
00:47:31,076 --> 00:47:32,906
after the meeting was finished,
793
00:47:34,077 --> 00:47:37,287
Erica came and showed
me a piece of paper,
794
00:47:40,216 --> 00:47:41,456
and she showed me what it was
795
00:47:41,457 --> 00:47:45,391
and what the note said
was, "I want to be Sam."
796
00:47:45,389 --> 00:47:50,389
I wrote that at a workshop
and gave it to Steve.
797
00:47:51,805 --> 00:47:55,495
I think Erica saw that, and
she kept it. She kept it.
798
00:47:55,495 --> 00:47:59,360
And it is so funny that
that's my highlight.
799
00:47:59,358 --> 00:48:02,768
And I got a photo taken with
it saying "I want to be Sam."
800
00:48:05,393 --> 00:48:08,493
[speaking Arrernte]
801
00:48:09,636 --> 00:48:11,464
- I went to pick her up,
but she's not at home.
802
00:48:11,463 --> 00:48:13,843
Her family don't
know where she is.
803
00:48:13,843 --> 00:48:15,292
Well something's wrong.
804
00:48:15,292 --> 00:48:17,086
Eileen wouldn't
just not show up.
805
00:48:17,086 --> 00:48:18,876
She really wants to go to Paris.
806
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,468
- There any chance this
connected to Jay's death?
807
00:48:27,466 --> 00:48:30,536
[speaking Arrernte]
808
00:49:00,957 --> 00:49:03,887
- My experience with
traveling around, seeing.
809
00:49:03,888 --> 00:49:07,028
There's still a lot
of people who don't,
810
00:49:08,337 --> 00:49:11,443
Don't realize
there's places like,
811
00:49:11,441 --> 00:49:16,238
well Amoonguna, there's a
community like this that exists
812
00:49:16,236 --> 00:49:20,786
and people that English is
their fifth or sixth language
813
00:49:21,995 --> 00:49:26,175
and people, what we
portray on the show
814
00:49:27,514 --> 00:49:30,067
is what happens in a
community like this.
815
00:49:30,066 --> 00:49:31,926
You know, it still
goes on, you know.
816
00:49:33,549 --> 00:49:35,516
The culture is very,
very strong out here.
817
00:49:35,515 --> 00:49:37,445
You know looking at
the mountain, right?
818
00:49:37,447 --> 00:49:39,931
The caterpillars,
you know, all that.
819
00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:42,725
So we still believe,
820
00:49:42,724 --> 00:49:44,064
This is our belief.
821
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:45,345
We believe that's
our caterpillar.
822
00:49:45,345 --> 00:49:47,135
You know, that's all that.
823
00:49:47,138 --> 00:49:48,968
So we are still, you know,
824
00:49:50,346 --> 00:49:52,209
so it's very, very
important for people
825
00:49:52,208 --> 00:49:55,625
that live in Australia,
cause it's their country too,
826
00:49:55,623 --> 00:49:57,033
they have to realize
827
00:49:57,037 --> 00:50:00,597
that this is part of the
culture of Australia.
828
00:50:20,938 --> 00:50:24,008
[speaking Arrernte]
829
00:50:54,083 --> 00:50:55,323
- What does that achieve?
830
00:50:57,084 --> 00:50:59,404
Is it a good thing that
Perdar Theendar is dry?
831
00:51:00,533 --> 00:51:03,493
[speaking Arrernte]
832
00:51:23,642 --> 00:51:25,159
- For me
833
00:51:25,158 --> 00:51:28,264
because my family is part of
the three Caterpillar thing
834
00:51:28,263 --> 00:51:30,883
and which is so good,
cause most of the people
835
00:51:30,884 --> 00:51:32,367
that live in Amoonguna
836
00:51:32,367 --> 00:51:34,257
is part of the other
Caterpillars too.
837
00:51:35,402 --> 00:51:38,853
Which is so good.
They all work with me.
838
00:51:38,852 --> 00:51:43,162
let us working because I'm
part of their storyline
839
00:51:43,162 --> 00:51:46,751
and which so, so lucky
that we got it, you know.
840
00:51:46,749 --> 00:51:49,129
We got the community, you know,
841
00:51:50,232 --> 00:51:52,122
to be and they
welcomed us, you know,
842
00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:54,269
and they said, Yeah,
if you wanna do it,
843
00:51:54,268 --> 00:51:55,308
Let's do it. Yeah.
844
00:51:56,372 --> 00:51:59,172
[noisy motorbike]
845
00:52:06,236 --> 00:52:08,896
[angry yelling]
846
00:52:09,892 --> 00:52:12,202
- Are you gonna do something?
847
00:52:12,203 --> 00:52:15,213
[speaking Arrernte]
848
00:52:20,653 --> 00:52:23,963
[football players jeer]
849
00:52:25,895 --> 00:52:27,995
[laughs]
850
00:52:29,516 --> 00:52:32,516
[speaking Arrernte]
851
00:52:34,621 --> 00:52:37,691
- [Football Player]
Fuck off Brendan.
852
00:52:37,691 --> 00:52:38,971
Get outta here.
853
00:52:55,143 --> 00:52:56,661
- There was one part there
854
00:52:56,661 --> 00:52:58,591
sort of where
everyone got scared
855
00:52:58,591 --> 00:53:03,461
that what might not happen
or what should be shown.
856
00:53:04,869 --> 00:53:06,524
But it was so amazing that a
lot of the community mob said,
857
00:53:06,524 --> 00:53:08,934
Yeah, we want to show
some of the stuff
858
00:53:08,939 --> 00:53:13,597
like the sorry business
and payback, and you know,
859
00:53:13,594 --> 00:53:15,941
just a little bit. You just
see it, but it happens,
860
00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:18,700
you know, cause it happens
here in the communities.
861
00:53:18,699 --> 00:53:21,045
You know, that's the
good thing about it.
862
00:53:21,044 --> 00:53:24,702
All those things that we,
you know, a lot of people go,
863
00:53:24,701 --> 00:53:26,321
Ah, does it really happen?
864
00:53:26,321 --> 00:53:27,671
Yes, it happens.
865
00:53:29,908 --> 00:53:32,428
[eerie music]
866
00:54:38,751 --> 00:54:42,821
I mean like Erica Glynn
and Steve McGregor
867
00:54:42,821 --> 00:54:46,030
and well another writer too,
Daniel MacLean forgot to say,
868
00:54:46,028 --> 00:54:47,614
you know,
869
00:54:47,614 --> 00:54:49,823
I've known them at Combine
870
00:54:49,822 --> 00:54:52,852
before they were
who they are now.
871
00:54:52,857 --> 00:54:54,099
And it, and it's so good.
872
00:54:54,099 --> 00:54:57,029
I mean, I've known you
before what you do now.
873
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:58,409
I mean, like it's,
874
00:54:58,409 --> 00:55:00,409
but it's so good
to happen there.
875
00:55:00,410 --> 00:55:03,000
Cause I feel comfortable
because I know who they are
876
00:55:04,583 --> 00:55:05,413
and they,
877
00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:10,930
when Steve is directing
or Erica is directing,
878
00:55:10,929 --> 00:55:13,689
hang on, I know those people.
I've known them before.
879
00:55:13,689 --> 00:55:16,967
So before who they were
now and it's so good.
880
00:55:16,965 --> 00:55:20,001
I mean like we got a crew,
amazing crew, you know,
881
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,620
they make you feel
comfortable to really go.
882
00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:27,220
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