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Being a great role model is terrific.
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One of my ambitions in life is to take women out of role model hell so they don't feel that everything
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they do is going to impact other women's careers.
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But one of the most important things I think we can do is to support each other and intervene when we
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see these things happening.
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There were multiple times where in a meeting what she had done was not acknowledged.
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And one of the most powerful things we can do, and it's really important for other women, but it's
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important for ourselves.
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It's important for men.
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It's important for creating a culture in which women can be recognized is when someone says something
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it doesn't, it goes right by to say, hey, I noticed that I made this point.
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I think we need to respond to that to just be the one who speaks up and holds other people to account.
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Because guess what?
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A lot of times it's not a malign thing.
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They're just not noticing in the female vision.
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The book I did before this, one of the things we found, which is a really important point, women's
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brains are processing more information at the same time, whereas men's are operating more like laser
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going on from one point to the next.
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So when you're expecting men and who have that laser light notice to be noticing what you're contributing.
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Good luck with that.
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They're focused on what they are doing.
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They're focused on what they're not reading the room to see who is getting ignored like a lot of women
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do, so that it's really important to be able to do those kinds of interventions and to do them with
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good will.
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Not like to just see him.
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He can't listen to anything a woman says.
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No, maybe he was doing something else.
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But hey, did you notice that she made this contribution?
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So when you do that, you do it over and over and you can do it in groups.
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You begin to create a culture where it's easier to recognize what women contribute.
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I think many of us have had that kind of experience, and that's the classic double bind that keeps
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getting that is constantly written about, you know, that it's it lands one way when a man says it
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and it can land another way when a woman says it.
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And I think the most important thing to do when that happens is to not then automatically back off and
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think he doesn't support me, he doesn't support women.
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He's part of the old guys network.
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I'm never going to make I'm never going to make an impact on this guy to be there.
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Thank you.
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Like Marcia would say, thank you for that feedback.
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I feel that what I've said is, is really important and that there is value for you and for your team
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in understanding the contributions that I've made.
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So I am going to continue to do that and I'm going to continue to do that in a way that that you may
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find comfortable or you may find uncomfortable.
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I'm going to search for a way to make you comfortable, to help you be comfortable, not make you to
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help you be comfortable with hearing this information.
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And I hope to find it.
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But even if I don't, I am going to continue sharing this.
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