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Would you please
raise your right hand?
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You do solemnly declare the testimony
you shall give in this matter
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shall be the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth.
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Yes, I do.
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Uh, good morning, Mr. Choudhury.
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Good morning.
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I want to shift gears for a moment.
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You claim that the women who are
suing you for rape and sexual assault
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are just out to get money from you.
Is that correct?
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I'm instructing you
to assert your Fifth Amendment privilege.
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I take Fifth Amendment
not to answer that question.
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This is what's happening in Beverly Hills.
It's quite a topic of conversation.
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There's a Yoga College of India,
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and the man who runs it is Yogi Bikram.
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I haven't seen nothing like that
in my whole life. Right?
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Yoga is free!
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It belongs to the earth,
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but I picked up a piece of it,
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and I created something.
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My first student in America
is Elvis Presley.
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My second student is President Nixon.
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Then my next student is George Harrison,
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Shirley MacLaine,
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Barbra Streisand,
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Frank Sinatra,
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Quincy Jones.
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Electric.
Very tough, you know. Street.
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I know where he's coming from,
you know?
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When you are in my class,
everybody the same.
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It doesn't matter who you are,
where you come from,
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how famous you are, how big you are,
how rich you are.
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- Everybody's equal.
- Everybody's equal?
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Joining Bikram now
is his wife, Rajashree,
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National Yoga Champion of India.
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And she's how old?
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- Twenty.
- Twenty.
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Yoga means we cure
all the chronic diseases:
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Heart problem, back problem,
emotional problem,
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arthritis, lumbago,
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sciatica, stiffness, gout, rheumatism.
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I can name 20 more.
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You get all those things
from doing that?
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All of it!
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Did he talk through the whole honeymoon?
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Pretty much.
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I started with nothing. Zero.
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I gave you everything.
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And this is the reward?
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I'm a rapist?
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Someone needs to stop Clearway Law.
Public shouldn't leave reviews for lawyers.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Welcome to Bikram's Beginning Yoga Class,
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to kill yourself for next 90 minutes.
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So, you guys ready?
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Inhale, keep your head down and arms up.
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Start, please.
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Full lungs.
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Bring your chin down more.
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Try to look at the light
in the Hollywood Hills.
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Half moon pose.
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Don't blink your eyes.
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Bend your body to your right side.
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Look in the mirror.
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Well, in 1998,
I had my first Bikram Yoga class,
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and it was hotter than you can imagine,
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and it had floor heaters,
smelled horrible.
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Halfway through,
I literally thought I was gonna die,
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so I said, "I'm getting out of here."
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When I'm out in the waiting room
and I began to feel better,
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and I thought, "Well, everybody's in there
still doing class,"
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so I decided to go back in and finish.
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And that was it. I was hooked.
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It just felt so good.
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So good.
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I was enamored by the fact that
this was one of the last living yogis.
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He brought a very powerful series
to this world.
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There are 26 postures
and two breathing techniques.
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One, two, three, four,
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five, and six.
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Hold it.
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He's got a powerful
teaching voice.
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And that's one of the things.
When you're in the room, it's like a lion.
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When he's teaching class,
he's just this...
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It's a force.
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Everybody, chest up, lean back,
fall back, more back,
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way back, go back, go back, go back.
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Change. Keep your arm there.
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When I started,
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it was people who were
kind of in the know.
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There was zero advertising,
there was zero social media.
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There wasn't any.
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There was no marketing. He did nothing.
It was only word of mouth.
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Awkward posture.
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Open your feet exactly six inches apart.
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- Do you trust me?
- Yes.
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Do you have a choice? No.
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It's an Indian marriage. No choice.
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There was no chanting.
There was no saying "Aum."
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This was a beginning series
meant for anybody willing to come and try.
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Eagle posture.
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Sit, sit, sit, sit.
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Left leg, zoom!
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One of the many reasons
people loved to come to Bikram's class,
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he saw potential in you
that you might not see.
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He will look you in the eye,
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and you just feel
like he's speaking to your soul.
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Don't give up.
Listen to me carefully. You can trust me.
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Your back is going to hurt like hell.
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People found this yoga
sometimes at their most broken.
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I'd actually been given
some really bad news about my hip,
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that I was gonna need a hip replacement.
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I was only 28 years old at the time.
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So when I started,
I kind of skipped this one posture,
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and he came over and he said,
"What the fuck you doing?"
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And I said, "I have arthritis."
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And he kind of very gently...
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So, it's like you had to differentiate
what he was saying,
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which was really entertainment
for everybody else,
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and how gently he helped me grab my knee
and gently pull my knee down,
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but that was the day
I walked out of class without a limp.
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Bikram has an amazing gift
of looking at somebody's body
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and knowing, without touching it,
what it can and cannot do,
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and he knows whether you are holding back
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because of your own fear or laziness.
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He can almost pick your thoughts.
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He was not there to coddle you.
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He was not there to say, "You look great."
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If you were a hundred pounds overweight,
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he was gonna say, "What are you doing
for that fat fucking stomach?"
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But Americans loved it.
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Go forward more.
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Go forward more. What are you waiting for,
somebody's gonna help you?
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His way of making fun of you
cut through you
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and gave you a chance
to see something in yourself
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that you might not have known was there.
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He was like a big kid.
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There was this innocent,
adorable way about him.
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Standing properly.
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Five fingers together, nicely.
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Tell me, "Mama, give me money." Go.
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"Mama, give me money."
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Look at your hands. You have the money.
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Now please don't drop the money.
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I'd done yoga for 25 years,
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and you've never really done yoga
until you've done a Bikram class.
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I nearly died.
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Prepare for triangle posture.
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This is the hardest posture of all.
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Are you ready with me?
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I wanted to go to the police after class
to tell them what they'd done to me.
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I couldn't believe it.
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I did it 'cause I'm pushed, you know,
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but I shook for three days.
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It was like an awakening.
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He opens your body,
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and it starts a detoxing process.
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Puts you in a place mentally
that is completely uncomfortable.
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You have to really dig
and find something inside yourself
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to actually stay and be able to bear it.
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That was the real magic.
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If anybody feeling dizzy,
nauseous, throw up, it's a good news.
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You must be happy,
that's what you pay for.
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You just died in that room.
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You just stayed until the class was over.
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You've just pushed everything
out of every pore.
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Wiping the floor up
with my own workout and sweat
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just gets that extra energy out.
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At least you didn't
give up this time.
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Here you've done
this body-wrenching class.
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You're just Jell-O, and then he would sing
and your whole body would tingle.
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I mean, he had a beautiful voice.
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♪ Don't look so sad ♪
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♪ It's not over ♪
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♪ Long way from home ♪
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♪ To kill yourself ♪
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♪ That's why you pay for ♪
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♪ That's why I am here ♪
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So, you know, class would end.
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Not everyone loved it.
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I'm not saying there haven't been
some bad classes and some bad moments
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where he shows a really ugly side.
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But still, to this day,
the classes I did with him,
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my back bends were deeper,
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my standing bow was held longer...
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and there is something about that
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which is why so many people to this day
won't even discuss anything negative,
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won't discuss any of the issues.
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You know, a lot of people tell a lot
of stories, and that becomes their truth.
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So, I think he has his own truth.
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This is a far cry from Beverly Hills.
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Yeah, you'd better believe it!
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Although he's been
living in America
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for more than half his life,
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for Bikram, India, the birthplace of yoga,
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will always be home.
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I remember...
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all the Bengali kids
used to play a little ball.
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And somehow I crossed the alley,
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I saw Ghosh's College
of Physical Education.
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About 15 to 20 kids,
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they are doing the posture.
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"So I said," Wait a minute.
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I can do those things much better
than you are doing it."
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There's a man who was sitting.
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He said, "Hey, you, come here.
What's your name?"
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I said, "Bikram."
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He said, "Wow.
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Come every day here.
I will teach you more."
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That day, my yoga started
with Bishnu Charan Ghosh,
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the greatest health culturist
of the twentieth century.
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I was an All-India National Yoga Champion
three times.
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Eleven, 12, 13 years old.
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Unbeaten.
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The whole country complained
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that if Bikram competes, nobody ever win.
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So they make me retire.
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So I started weightlifting.
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The most difficult sport in the world
is Olympic weightlifting.
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Sixty-four, I was going to Tokyo Olympics.
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One hundred and ten percent
I'm gonna get a gold medal.
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Seven days before,
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my catcher,
you know who catch the barbell?
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They drop the 465 pounds on my left leg.
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My left leg was crushed,
hundred thousand pieces.
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Dust.
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Everybody said I have to cut my leg off.
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So I went to Howrah Bridge to jump.
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I don't want to live with one leg.
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So my guru said, "You tried everything?"
I said, "Yes."
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So my guru said, "Come back
tomorrow morning, six o'clock."
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My guru fixed my knee by doing yoga.
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Eight hours, ten hours, 12 hours a day.
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Six months later, I lost the muscles
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and I can do lotus again!
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"So I told my guru," The rest of my life,
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I go around the world,
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"and I am to fix bad knees and bad legs."
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Fourth of July, 1972.
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I went to the Air Force, Seahawk 130,
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bigger than jumbo plane,
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to Honolulu, to meet Nixon.
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President Nixon,
he has phlebitis, thrombosis.
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They want to amputate his leg.
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As a president!
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Four days, I give him
seven hydropathic treatment.
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Bikram Yoga in the bathtub.
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And fourth day morning, I asked,
"Mr. President?
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Which leg is the bad one?"
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He said, "Right, left, left, right,
I don't remember."
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"I said," If you do yoga every day,
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you will never remember
which leg was the bad one."
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I never even applied for a green card.
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The green card was a gift from Nixon.
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I wasn't looking for a guru,
you know what I mean?
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It was that classic "When the student
is ready, the teacher will appear."
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It was one of those kind of things,
you know?
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I'd found a magazine, it had an article
about Bikram's teacher training.
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Had the information.
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Come to Bikram's yoga studio,
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his beautiful facility in Beverly Hills
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where Bikram
and his superior teacher-training staff
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will teach you
his beautiful healing yoga series.
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This was in October of 1999.
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So I get out of LAX
and they take me to the address.
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And I open the door,
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and there was 60 people
from all over the world to take the yoga,
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and everybody's yakking and yelling,
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and behind the counter was this lady,
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and she was on the phone.
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And so, she takes the phone
and she puts it on her shoulder and says,
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"Shut the fuck up!"
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And I said...
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"Welcome to Bikram's
Yoga College of India, baby."
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In those days, if you became a teacher,
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you could practice for free
all over the world.
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So I thought, "I'm down."
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Went in, sat down,
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and suddenly, this,
"Oh, oh, Bikram's coming!"
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And then they all start clapping
and, yeah, like this,
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and shouting and screaming.
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And it was like,
holy Jesus, you know?
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He was a bit of a...
I suppose a celebrity at that point,
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in my eyes.
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He was a showman.
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He was the original marketer of himself.
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Eee, yeah!
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I did it in one chance!
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He always wore
tiny black Speedos
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that, you know, you were wondering
a few things.
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And the Speedos.
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Stop!
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People would say, "What's he like?"
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And I would say, you know,
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"He sees himself as a cross
between Mother Teresa and Howard Stern,"
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or something like that.
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Come on, sweetheart, kick. Trust me.
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You need pedicure.
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All that kind of appealed to me,
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and the yoga was so lovable,
and refreshing, and healing.
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What else can I tell you?
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It was a posture clinic,
and there were hundreds of people there.
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Finger came down and pointed at me
and said, "You, come up here."
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It freaked me out, but I thought,
"This is your chance, girl."
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Straight. Straight. Straight.
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Bikram was pulling
on one end of me
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and Jim Kellett was pulling on the other.
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And he said,
"You need to become a teacher."
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And I went up to him and said,
"You know, I'm thinking
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about doing teacher training."
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And he got in my face with that finger
and was like, "You would be the best one."
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I literally had no plan
because I felt that strongly
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to share this powerful practice
that had done so much for me.
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It's really one of the best things
I've ever done.
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When I did teacher training in 1998,
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there was 38 people.
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And there was another one that fall
that I believe had about 60 people.
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And for several years,
they literally were doubling.
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It was just exponentially growing.
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When you're in Rome,
you must do what Roman does.
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You have to franchise your yoga school!
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And so he has,
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with plans to open more than 600 studios
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that carry his unique style.
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Something about the yoga,
Bikram Yoga,
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started to put yoga on the map.
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America's obsession
with good health and exercise
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is leading to a boom in yoga.
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And one person at the forefront
of the movement
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is turning up the heat
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with his torture chamber approach
to the practice.
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He whips his class into shape
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dressed in nothing but a Rolex
and a Speedo.
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With more than a million students served,
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Bikram Yoga has earned the nickname
"McYoga."
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Do you like that analogy,
the McDonald's of yoga?
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Why not? What's wrong with that?
I eat Big Mac.
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Bikram has argued in federal court
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that his precise sequence of yoga postures
and breathing exercises
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should be eligible
for copyright protection.
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So if we...
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So I picked up 26 postures.
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I put in the sequence, like a melody.
I created that.
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And his business strategy
has made Bikram Choudhury a rich man,
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living the life of a star,
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complete with a whole fleet
of classic cars he's restored himself.
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It doesn't seem very Yogi-like.
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Depend which kind of yogi.
I'm American yogi.
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Beverly Hills Yogi, to be exact.
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The way Bikram marketed himself
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was very much as the bad boy of yoga.
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When I arrived, I said to them,
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"Maybe nobody's told you guys this before,
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but this is not the way
to run a yoga college."
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Gotta use your strength
to begin with.
355
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If you are one second late, it's over!
356
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But it fit in with what I wanted to do.
357
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The idea of combining the yoga
with the law.
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Pull your heels and lock them in.
I want...
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One of the first things
I did was then take myself to training
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to try to observe.
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Ms. Pink, you don't like me?
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Huh?
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You paid.
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I didn't pay you.
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Teacher training is a feeder system
into the Bikram franchise.
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That's basically like the cash cow
for Bikram Yoga.
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The only way you can open
a licensed chain Bikram studio
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is by going through training.
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And Bikram would hold these trainings
in various hotels around the world.
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I've seen rooms
with up to 500 people in them,
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and the tuition was around $10,000.
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That's what keeps Bikram
in his fedoras and leather jackets,
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python shoes,
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Bentleys and Ferraris.
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I'd seen flashes of megalomania in Bikram,
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but I didn't know at the time
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how bad he was gonna turn out to be,
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how diabolical he actually was.
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Here.
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Wipe your hands on your butt.
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The first three weeks
of the teacher-training
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is the most important,
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It's devoted to Bikram.
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Part humiliation
and part sort of benediction
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by the guru.
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It's what they pay for,
it's what they come for.
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The first week, he had every one of us
at the training stand up
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and just give a little bit of who we are,
where we're from, how old we are...
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and, kind of, how the yoga had helped us.
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And I looked him in his eyes
at the training and I said,
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"Bikram, you are better than chocolate."
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I hadn't felt good in a long time,
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'cause I'd had the back injury
from scoliosis,
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and it felt finally like,
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"Oh, yes, I have this thing in common"
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and this deep, deep connection with you,
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and this understanding that this yoga
is gonna make it all go away,
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that we all get that if we just suffer
through these next nine weeks.
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"And we're not just together here,
but we're together in this."
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They describe it as "the family."
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And I understand why,
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because going
and being on this common ground
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with so many different people
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and having this sort of, like, leader
that created this thing for us...
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it was amazing.
406
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Bikram would feed a lot of one-liners
to the group.
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And then everyone would repeat back,
you know, their part of it,
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like, "My way or the..."
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And everybody would say "highway,"
you know?
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Or "The best food is..."
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"No food."
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My way or...
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Highway.
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I felt so instantly connected
to this person.
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He always called me Sarah,
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and everybody else he called Ms. Pink
or Ms. Paris.
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All these nicknames for everybody else,
and I was Sarah. I was Sarah.
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I wanted to be
a teacher so badly,
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and I wanted to be a good teacher
so badly,
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and the way that they shaped
that world for us,
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we grew to understand
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that the only way that you could be
a good teacher was through him.
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You know what's the meaning of Bikram?
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- What?
- What?
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Leech.
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- You know "leech"?
- Yeah.
427
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We suck the blood.
428
00:24:01,064 --> 00:24:03,608
I'm gonna suck
the last drop of blood you have.
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Even after you die.
430
00:24:05,902 --> 00:24:08,363
When I went to training, I was really fat.
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I was about 300 pounds.
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I still remember the very first class
that I took with him,
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and I was maybe in the second
or third row,
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and I remember we were in awkward pose,
435
00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:25,505
and he looked right at me
436
00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:28,049
and said,
"Suck that fucking fat stomach in,
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I don't like to see the jiggle-jiggle."
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00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:36,516
And I needed to be cursed
and screamed and yelled at,
439
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:38,685
and that's what got me into shape,
440
00:24:38,768 --> 00:24:41,938
and I think that's what got me
to become a really good teacher.
441
00:24:43,607 --> 00:24:45,317
I needed something in my life.
442
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,944
I needed guidance that I didn't have.
443
00:24:49,112 --> 00:24:51,531
And I think Bikram saw that right away
from me,
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was that I was someone
that would be loyal to him.
445
00:24:56,786 --> 00:24:59,206
But looking back,
there were, like, red flags
446
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that this guy might not be
mentally stable.
447
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:06,022
In the morning, they'd be like,
"Make sure you're drinking enough water,"
448
00:25:06,046 --> 00:25:08,065
make sure you're hydrating,
make sure you're eating well,
449
00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:09,966
"make sure you're getting
enough electrolytes."
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00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:13,637
And then, the first thing Bikram
would tell us at the lecture,
451
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"If you have a dick,
tie a string around your dick,"
452
00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:17,765
and if you have a pussy,
put a cork in your pussy,
453
00:25:17,807 --> 00:25:19,559
"because you're not allowed to pee."
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00:25:20,894 --> 00:25:23,021
There was a guy in the training who...
455
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he just got up
in the middle of the lecture,
456
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and he just walks over to the corner,
457
00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:28,944
and in a water bottle,
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00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:32,113
pees inside of his plastic water bottle
in the corner.
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00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:35,283
And then Bikram is like,
"Oh, see, he gets it."
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00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,540
Bikram was so good
at getting inside of our brains.
461
00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:45,752
It's a very dystopian environment.
462
00:25:47,504 --> 00:25:49,714
You were not allowed to wear any green.
463
00:25:49,798 --> 00:25:51,216
The color green was banned.
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00:25:53,009 --> 00:25:57,931
When he's teaching class, everybody else
is sweltering at up to 120 degrees,
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00:25:58,014 --> 00:25:59,891
but he actually has
a personal air-conditioner
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blowing cold air to the back of his head.
467
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:09,401
Which is, like,
that's Bikram for you, right?
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00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:13,780
The abnormal becomes normal.
469
00:26:16,116 --> 00:26:19,244
Ask someone who takes Bikram Yoga
about Bikram Yoga
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00:26:19,327 --> 00:26:21,788
and chances are
they will try to convert you.
471
00:26:21,871 --> 00:26:25,500
And the reason for that,
one man with one very big plan.
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00:26:26,334 --> 00:26:29,754
We caught up
with the 65-year-old yoga guru
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during a recent Bikram
teacher-training program in Los Angeles.
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00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:37,721
You have gotten so many people
to embrace you and embrace this practice.
475
00:26:37,804 --> 00:26:39,347
Why do you think that is?
476
00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:40,557
That's why I'm Bikram.
477
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,143
I'm a real Yogi.
478
00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:44,453
Open your lungs and fill your...
479
00:26:44,477 --> 00:26:46,938
I work 24 hours a day, no food, no sleep.
480
00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:49,292
That's not just something you say.
You don't sleep very much?
481
00:26:49,316 --> 00:26:50,150
No. Hardly.
482
00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:51,943
Not even 30 hours a month.
483
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:53,360
- Come on!
- Yeah.
484
00:26:53,403 --> 00:26:56,531
- You don't even sleep 30 hours a month?
- Not even one hour every night.
485
00:26:56,615 --> 00:27:01,119
You will never meet another human being
in this earth more pure than me.
486
00:27:01,202 --> 00:27:02,202
I sell the truth.
487
00:27:03,204 --> 00:27:04,204
Spine straight.
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00:27:04,247 --> 00:27:05,247
Start.
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I had probably been there
four days total.
490
00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:18,094
Bikram called me out of class
and into his office.
491
00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:21,765
Right out of the bag, he just asked,
492
00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:23,767
"What are we gonna do about this?"
493
00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:26,436
And I thought,
"What are we gonna do about what?"
494
00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:28,312
'Cause...
495
00:27:29,064 --> 00:27:30,065
"Well, what?"
496
00:27:30,857 --> 00:27:31,857
And he said,
497
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,527
"What are we gonna do about us?
498
00:27:35,403 --> 00:27:37,238
Should we make this a relationship?"
499
00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:39,616
And it was just like...
500
00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:44,537
Oh... my God.
501
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:49,918
I don't know how I even found my way
back to the big room.
502
00:27:50,835 --> 00:27:52,087
I took a step in...
503
00:27:53,254 --> 00:27:54,297
and realized,
504
00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:56,925
"Oh, my gosh, my mat is up at the front."
505
00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:03,556
During the posture clinic
at the end of the night,
506
00:28:04,391 --> 00:28:06,226
Bikram watched my routine.
507
00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:10,313
And he gave me all of his corrections.
508
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:14,192
There's one posture,
standing bow-pulling pose,
509
00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:16,319
and you grab your back leg and kick up.
510
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:20,407
Basically, you do the standing splits,
and you drop your heart down real low.
511
00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,243
And he got out of his posture,
which he frequently did,
512
00:28:23,326 --> 00:28:26,705
and he grabbed my body and...
513
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,709
opened me up real hard,
514
00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:32,669
just pulled everything apart
515
00:28:32,752 --> 00:28:35,130
and dropped my body down, which wasn't...
516
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:38,633
abnormal for him to do to people,
517
00:28:39,259 --> 00:28:41,344
but then he pressed himself into me,
518
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,140
and started whispering into my ear,
519
00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:48,309
"What are we gonna do about us?"
520
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,356
I'm split in half...
521
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,401
with my heart dropping down real low.
522
00:28:59,487 --> 00:29:02,574
So, emotionally, I just broke,
523
00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:04,659
and I had to stand up,
524
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:05,952
and as soon as I did,
525
00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:07,787
he continued the class.
526
00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:22,218
The next day,
I went to one of the senior staffers
527
00:29:23,052 --> 00:29:24,345
and said,
528
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:28,141
"Bikram asked me if I would be with him."
529
00:29:28,808 --> 00:29:30,518
And he didn't look shocked at all.
530
00:29:30,894 --> 00:29:32,395
And he, in fact, said,
531
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,481
"If you decide to stay,"
532
00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:36,691
then I recommend you do what I do,
533
00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:39,986
"and that is separate the man
from the teacher."
534
00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:44,948
Party time.
535
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:46,742
Drink your water.
536
00:29:49,496 --> 00:29:50,497
Party over.
537
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:51,706
Standing head to knee.
538
00:29:52,415 --> 00:29:55,794
Thirty seconds that posture
better than eight hours' sleep at night.
539
00:29:56,753 --> 00:29:58,838
I did actually two years of Bikram Yoga...
540
00:29:58,922 --> 00:30:03,885
from his voice cassette in my house
with a heater, um, you know, in a room.
541
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:06,304
Don't look so sad.
542
00:30:06,387 --> 00:30:07,388
Don't look lonely.
543
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:08,598
I'm not your enemy.
544
00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:10,934
I'm the only friend
you ever had in your life.
545
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:15,563
I told him, you know,
being the very modest little me,
546
00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:18,525
and I said, "Oh, well,
I've been doing your tape at home"
547
00:30:18,608 --> 00:30:19,984
and I love your singing."
548
00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:22,153
Oh, wow.
Wrong thing to say to Bikram,
549
00:30:22,237 --> 00:30:25,198
'cause, literally, he's, like,
this close to me in front of my face
550
00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:28,576
and he proceeds to sing me a song,
right, this close.
551
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:56,062
Everybody in the community
knew me as the medical personnel.
552
00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:00,108
In that nine weeks, you're gonna have...
553
00:31:00,191 --> 00:31:03,278
a certain segment are gonna have
upper respiratory infections.
554
00:31:04,445 --> 00:31:08,408
We had people passing out during class.
We had dehydration.
555
00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:13,872
At the end of that first teacher training,
556
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,001
Bikram pulled me up on stage
in front of 400 people, and, like,
557
00:31:18,084 --> 00:31:19,502
"This teacher trainer
558
00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:22,422
would like to thank the one person
who helped the most."
559
00:31:24,632 --> 00:31:28,094
So, you know, when you receive applause
in front of 400 people
560
00:31:28,177 --> 00:31:31,014
and you're seen as being closer to Bikram,
561
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,267
you start being looked at like...
562
00:31:34,767 --> 00:31:35,767
somebody special.
563
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:43,318
I look at this in the way
that Bikram and Rajashree are both like,
564
00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:44,903
"We're your family now.
565
00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:47,071
We're a community, and we're family."
566
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:52,619
And if you know about
families and abuse...
567
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:55,997
you start out...
568
00:31:56,873 --> 00:31:58,750
loving the father figure,
569
00:32:00,501 --> 00:32:01,586
and this is Bikram.
570
00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:07,776
You know, you have to understand
this is nine weeks of yoga
571
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,761
and people are wearing nothing
but a bathing suit.
572
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,056
Come on the toes
and sit on your heel.
573
00:32:13,139 --> 00:32:16,768
And so, it's like this hyper
sexually-charged atmosphere.
574
00:32:16,851 --> 00:32:18,603
Arms up parallel with the floor.
575
00:32:18,686 --> 00:32:21,731
They all call it...
week five is, like, sex week.
576
00:32:22,649 --> 00:32:24,776
With long legs.
577
00:32:24,859 --> 00:32:26,027
Shit.
578
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:27,695
Okay, come up from that.
579
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:29,197
Look at that.
580
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:32,784
This is very, very difficult pose.
581
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:36,454
At the end of the class,
582
00:32:36,537 --> 00:32:38,998
people would gather around
massaging his feet.
583
00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:41,584
Massaging his legs, massaging his back.
584
00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:47,507
I mean, I massaged Bikram
at headquarters on the floor
585
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:50,551
when the chauffeur
was tired of massaging him.
586
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,435
One particular incident,
I was in a posture clinic,
587
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:04,023
and one of Bikram's, um,
gentlemen assistants came down,
588
00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:07,235
and said, "Bikram wants to see you,
and you, and you."
589
00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:09,278
And he picked, I think it was three,
590
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:12,824
and they just jumped up
like a jack-in-the-box.
591
00:33:12,907 --> 00:33:15,743
They couldn't wait to go and see Bikram,
592
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,329
and this is ten o'clock,
eleven o'clock at night.
593
00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:20,790
And my thinking is, "What are you doing?"
594
00:33:21,791 --> 00:33:23,084
As a mom,
595
00:33:23,751 --> 00:33:24,961
that disturbed me.
596
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,803
For me, he was a guru.
597
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:36,806
He was a teacher
who was gonna make me perfect.
598
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:44,063
So I told my family
that I have to go to US teacher training.
599
00:33:45,314 --> 00:33:49,110
I was, like, biggest decision for me
to leave my child with my mom,
600
00:33:49,193 --> 00:33:50,236
because he was very small.
601
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:55,116
But I want to just do something
602
00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:57,618
to make me stand on my feet.
603
00:33:59,537 --> 00:34:02,707
Like, "Okay." Like, "Let's do this,
Mandeep. Let's do this."
604
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,008
Turn the lights off.
Open the door, please.
605
00:34:12,091 --> 00:34:14,635
Bikram was teaching the class
at that time.
606
00:34:15,553 --> 00:34:16,929
All the... all lights.
607
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:18,555
Voilà.
608
00:34:20,016 --> 00:34:21,642
So, he saw me.
609
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:25,271
"Ask that girl if she knows
how to do massage."
610
00:34:25,772 --> 00:34:28,316
And there was only one answer,
"Yes, of course I know."
611
00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:31,360
After one or two days,
612
00:34:32,278 --> 00:34:34,781
one of the teachers said,
"Bikram is calling you."
613
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:36,741
Like, "Okay, what time?"
614
00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:38,408
"Now."
615
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:40,703
"Not now, it's two o'clock in the night."
616
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:45,750
I entered in the suite room.
617
00:34:46,834 --> 00:34:49,212
I just said the greeting,
like, "Hello, sir."
618
00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:51,172
And he's like, "Yeah, come."
619
00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:52,715
And then he went to the room.
620
00:34:53,132 --> 00:34:56,385
His personal room,
and he was lying down on the floor.
621
00:34:56,803 --> 00:34:59,764
And, "Now go take this oil
and, you know, massage me."
622
00:34:59,847 --> 00:35:00,681
"Okay, fine."
623
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,809
And I was just massaging the shoulders,
624
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:04,894
combing his hair,
625
00:35:04,977 --> 00:35:06,604
massaging his hand.
626
00:35:06,687 --> 00:35:08,564
And he keep continue, he talks a lot.
627
00:35:09,649 --> 00:35:11,192
I have to just listen.
628
00:35:11,275 --> 00:35:13,903
And then he's like,
"Nobody's here to handle my empire."
629
00:35:13,986 --> 00:35:15,613
I have done so much for everybody.
630
00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:17,115
Nobody's taking care of me.
631
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:19,742
"Not even my family."
632
00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:22,495
"Okay. Okay."
633
00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:26,374
And he was just telling me now,
634
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,710
"Do it from here.
All right, do it from here. And do it..."
635
00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:33,297
Then slowly, slowly, he's guiding me,
"Now do it here, do it here."
636
00:35:33,381 --> 00:35:35,133
And go to the, like, you know, the main.
637
00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:36,843
Like, "Okay, now do it."
638
00:35:36,926 --> 00:35:39,470
Go, put your hand in my inner thighs
and do it."
639
00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:42,515
Then he actually said,
"Yeah, okay, okay. Do...
640
00:35:42,598 --> 00:35:43,598
Massage my dick."
641
00:35:44,892 --> 00:35:46,227
I was like... I was like...
642
00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:48,271
blind.
643
00:35:48,354 --> 00:35:51,941
He put... He grabbed my hand
and tried to put his there.
644
00:35:52,024 --> 00:35:53,025
And then I said...
645
00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:55,026
"I..."
646
00:35:55,778 --> 00:35:57,780
I can't do this. Like, you're my guru.
647
00:35:58,072 --> 00:35:59,072
I have...
648
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:01,576
"I have different..."
649
00:36:01,951 --> 00:36:03,661
Um, what do you say? Image.
650
00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:07,039
"You know? Different image as a guru.
651
00:36:07,206 --> 00:36:09,458
So, I'm sorry, I can't do that."
652
00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:12,503
Your hips like this, not like this. No...
653
00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:14,547
What is he gonna do next
now with me?
654
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:15,840
Chest up. Elbows straight.
655
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:17,049
He came.
656
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,853
Then, "What happened? Why do you want
to leave the teacher training?"
657
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:22,180
Like, "You know what happened."
658
00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:24,223
"Nothing happened, Mandeep."
659
00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:27,393
"For you, maybe not."
660
00:36:27,643 --> 00:36:28,686
But for me, yes.
661
00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:30,354
"I can't take this."
662
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:31,480
Like, "Okay."
663
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:34,441
Don't worry.
664
00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:36,444
It's not gonna happen again.
665
00:36:37,486 --> 00:36:39,363
"You continue with teacher training."
666
00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:48,748
Bikram was very, very, very good
at knowing when to turn the whole crowd.
667
00:36:48,831 --> 00:36:50,666
So he'd be your best friend in one second,
668
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:53,920
and the next minute, he is, like,
screaming insanely at someone.
669
00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:55,671
I mean... Can I swear?
670
00:36:55,755 --> 00:36:56,797
Yeah, you sure can.
671
00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:57,715
Like...
672
00:36:57,798 --> 00:36:59,342
like, "You fucking bitch."
673
00:36:59,425 --> 00:37:01,761
Take a deep breath.
Now drop your head back.
674
00:37:01,844 --> 00:37:04,138
Now arms back!
In a half a second, drop it!
675
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:06,015
Arms back, touch the wall. Touch the wall!
676
00:37:06,098 --> 00:37:07,308
Touch the fucking wall!
677
00:37:07,391 --> 00:37:10,102
Now go down! Go down! Go down! Go down!
678
00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:11,312
How can she do it now?
679
00:37:11,395 --> 00:37:12,395
Bitch.
680
00:37:13,272 --> 00:37:14,732
Don't you understand English?
681
00:37:15,816 --> 00:37:16,901
How do you do it now?
682
00:37:17,818 --> 00:37:18,653
Chickenshit.
683
00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:19,737
Now go down.
684
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,114
So I'm seeing this with my own eyes,
685
00:37:22,615 --> 00:37:25,826
but you don't imagine
that you're seeing it.
686
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:30,539
When you think about these people
are, like, starving,
687
00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:32,375
and they're sleep-deprived,
688
00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:34,794
and then this yoga just wipes you out.
689
00:37:36,379 --> 00:37:39,757
You're ripe for whatever wants
to be entered in next.
690
00:37:40,299 --> 00:37:42,051
Remember, it's nine weeks.
691
00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:44,762
The students are living in the hotel.
692
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:50,226
That's basically their dorm
for nine weeks.
693
00:37:50,309 --> 00:37:53,396
They're doing all their classes
and all their lectures in the hotel.
694
00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:56,065
They're not allowed to leave.
695
00:37:56,649 --> 00:37:59,277
And Bikram,
although he has a home in Los Angeles,
696
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,196
lives in the hotel,
in the presidential suite.
697
00:38:05,741 --> 00:38:08,327
It was disturbing for me to discover
698
00:38:08,411 --> 00:38:10,788
that there was this tendency
699
00:38:10,871 --> 00:38:14,000
to watch Bollywood movies
very late at night
700
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:15,751
in Bikram's bedroom.
701
00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:22,174
I came back over and over again
702
00:38:22,258 --> 00:38:23,718
expecting different results,
703
00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:26,220
and I know that's the definition
of being an idiot.
704
00:38:30,933 --> 00:38:34,729
We were all supposed to stay up late
with Bikram. He never slept.
705
00:38:36,063 --> 00:38:37,791
We'd get a call sometimes
at three in the morning,
706
00:38:37,815 --> 00:38:39,525
"Where are you? Come to my room.
707
00:38:39,608 --> 00:38:41,068
I need company. I'm lonely."
708
00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:44,113
So, um, we were watching a movie,
709
00:38:45,072 --> 00:38:46,949
and he asked me to come sit with him.
710
00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:49,368
And I just started massaging his hand.
711
00:38:50,036 --> 00:38:51,036
Yeah?
712
00:38:52,038 --> 00:38:57,418
And then I laid my head
on the side of the couch and...
713
00:38:57,835 --> 00:38:58,878
and fell asleep.
714
00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:04,925
One of the other senior staffers
woke me up,
715
00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:08,179
and he said that, you know,
"The movie's over and we're leaving."
716
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:12,558
And I got up and realized
I didn't have my shoes on,
717
00:39:12,641 --> 00:39:13,893
and I had my bag also.
718
00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:16,437
And so I went to go look for my shoes
and look for my bag
719
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,857
that I'd set down earlier in the night
somewhere in his huge suite,
720
00:39:20,274 --> 00:39:22,610
um, out in the living room,
721
00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:24,987
and he said,
"We're leaving now. Let's go."
722
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:27,365
I said, "Just a minute,
I have to find my shoes."
723
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:30,368
And I heard the door click,
and they'd left.
724
00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:32,495
And I hurried to the door,
725
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,997
um, and Bikram was already there.
726
00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:39,543
And I went to open it,
and he pushed himself up into me.
727
00:39:40,294 --> 00:39:42,088
And he only had his underwear on,
728
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,257
and, um, I could feel him.
729
00:39:49,261 --> 00:39:51,722
I kept trying
to push down the door handle,
730
00:39:52,264 --> 00:39:53,641
but the door opened in.
731
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,811
And he had his pressure against the door,
732
00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:58,854
and my body was up against the door,
733
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:02,149
and he started kissing all over my neck
and all down my chest,
734
00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:04,360
and he was pushing himself into me, and...
735
00:40:05,361 --> 00:40:08,197
he just kept saying,
"I'm gonna have you this time."
736
00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:14,412
I thought, "He's going to rape me."
737
00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:22,086
And I was able to use my elbow
to move him off,
738
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:24,505
and I slipped under him
and I slipped out.
739
00:40:24,588 --> 00:40:28,843
And I remember, as I left,
I said goodnight to him, even.
740
00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:30,302
I said, "Goodnight, boss."
741
00:40:35,724 --> 00:40:38,269
Sarah and I came up
through the Bikram world together.
742
00:40:41,021 --> 00:40:45,109
We just had this fun little chemistry
that was just great.
743
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:53,909
And I do remember
it was very early on in our relationship,
744
00:40:54,493 --> 00:40:57,496
Sarah had told me
that she was first assaulted by Bikram.
745
00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:03,377
And Sarah wasn't the first woman
to tell me this.
746
00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:05,463
One of my friends at training
747
00:41:05,546 --> 00:41:07,006
was also...
748
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,258
hit on by Bikram.
749
00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:15,306
So, Sarah telling me
wasn't the first time.
750
00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:17,057
However...
751
00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:23,522
my reaction at the time was,
752
00:41:23,898 --> 00:41:24,732
"That sucks."
753
00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:27,485
But I think my reaction also was...
754
00:41:28,777 --> 00:41:29,820
"What are you gonna do?"
755
00:41:33,532 --> 00:41:35,659
If we wanted to
professionally advance
756
00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:36,827
in the Bikram Yoga world,
757
00:41:36,911 --> 00:41:39,079
we had to go back to his trainings.
758
00:41:41,457 --> 00:41:43,959
So, Sarah had no choice but to go back.
759
00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,588
Her goal was to be able to make money
leading these seminars
760
00:41:47,671 --> 00:41:50,216
and getting on this elite list
761
00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:54,678
of the 25 teachers that can go around
and teach seminars in Bikram's name.
762
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:57,806
If we didn't go back
763
00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:00,851
or we started speaking out
about these things
764
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:02,770
that we were seeing,
765
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,606
we would be professionally exiled.
766
00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,233
See you next year!
767
00:42:13,572 --> 00:42:16,492
My impression of him was very god-like.
768
00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:20,287
Even more so than a guru.
769
00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:23,916
Like, he knew everything about everything.
770
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:31,006
After teacher training, I really, really
wanted to have my own studio.
771
00:42:32,591 --> 00:42:36,720
But you have to get approval from Bikram
before you sign the lease.
772
00:42:38,806 --> 00:42:43,477
He kept telling me
that he wanted to make me famous
773
00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:45,729
and that I just had to stay close
with him.
774
00:42:48,691 --> 00:42:51,318
I was invited to go to Los Angeles
775
00:42:51,777 --> 00:42:53,279
and stay at Bikram's home.
776
00:42:55,322 --> 00:42:59,618
That was kind of the start
of where I became close with the family
777
00:42:59,702 --> 00:43:02,204
and became part of the inner circle.
778
00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:06,125
Eating the food
and hanging out with the kids,
779
00:43:06,208 --> 00:43:09,503
helping them with their homework,
and spending time with Rajashree,
780
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:11,547
doing a lot of yoga, of course.
781
00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:15,926
And two nights before I left,
782
00:43:16,885 --> 00:43:18,762
Rajashree had gone up to sleep.
783
00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:22,349
The kids were up in their bedroom.
784
00:43:23,726 --> 00:43:25,769
Bikram started a Bollywood movie...
785
00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:30,024
and I was massaging his feet.
786
00:43:33,027 --> 00:43:35,529
I told him I was very tired
and I needed to go up to sleep,
787
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:37,373
and he said,
"Just stay a little bit longer."
788
00:43:37,406 --> 00:43:38,574
He goes, "Sit down here."
789
00:43:38,657 --> 00:43:39,783
Thank you very much.
790
00:43:41,201 --> 00:43:44,163
He was trying to tell me
about the movie,
791
00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:46,707
and I couldn't really hear
what he was saying
792
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:49,251
because he had the volume up very high.
793
00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:52,463
And I turned to look at him
794
00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:55,007
to see what he wanted to share with me,
795
00:43:55,090 --> 00:43:58,636
and he grabbed the back of my head
and started to kiss me.
796
00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:04,850
I immediately pulled away,
797
00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:07,102
and he said, "It's okay. It's okay."
798
00:44:07,186 --> 00:44:09,897
And then he grabbed my head
and pulled me back in,
799
00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:12,316
and, like, stuck his tongue in my mouth.
800
00:44:13,025 --> 00:44:14,443
And I was trying to pull back,
801
00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:18,656
and I was able to create
some distance from him.
802
00:44:18,739 --> 00:44:21,909
And I said,
"Bikram, I don't want this with you."
803
00:44:22,451 --> 00:44:26,038
And he said, "Okay, okay, okay, you know.
I'm sorry, it's okay."
804
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,753
He stood up and he grabbed my hand
805
00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:37,257
and brought me to the family room
next to the kitchen,
806
00:44:37,716 --> 00:44:42,554
and I thought he was going to apologize
and say that he was sorry
807
00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:44,098
and it would never happen again.
808
00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:46,475
Instead, he lifted my skirt.
809
00:44:46,558 --> 00:44:49,937
He pulled down my underwear,
and he pulled down his boxer shorts,
810
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:51,438
and he raped me.
811
00:44:57,945 --> 00:45:01,949
I felt like my physical body
was completely limp,
812
00:45:02,032 --> 00:45:03,075
totally numb.
813
00:45:09,498 --> 00:45:13,085
I just know
that I was up here looking down.
814
00:45:14,628 --> 00:45:17,881
He finished,
and he pulled his boxer shorts back up,
815
00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:22,177
and he walked over to the other couch
and sat down.
816
00:45:22,636 --> 00:45:28,016
And I stood up
and put myself back together
817
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,437
and walked over
and kissed him on the forehead,
818
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,646
and I said, "Goodnight."
819
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:36,734
And I walked upstairs to the bedroom
and closed the door...
820
00:45:38,736 --> 00:45:41,613
and prayed that he wasn't gonna come in.
821
00:45:46,493 --> 00:45:47,828
The next morning,
822
00:45:48,954 --> 00:45:51,915
I just kind of pretended
like nothing happened.
823
00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:56,920
I went home, and my girlfriend came in,
824
00:45:57,004 --> 00:45:59,715
and I said, "I have to tell you something",
825
00:45:59,798 --> 00:46:02,968
but you have to promise me
826
00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:07,931
"you will never say anything
to anybody, ever."
827
00:46:09,308 --> 00:46:11,393
I said, "He raped me."
828
00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:16,815
She said, "Well, what are you gonna do?"
829
00:46:16,899 --> 00:46:19,193
And I said, "I'm not gonna do anything."
830
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:22,029
I'm not gonna tell anybody,
you're not gonna tell anybody.
831
00:46:23,572 --> 00:46:25,073
I just want to teach yoga.
832
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,701
That's all I know.
833
00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:30,621
"I just... I don't want anybody
to know about this."
834
00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:37,836
Soon after that, Bikram approved me
opening up a school.
835
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:50,641
You've built an empire.
836
00:46:50,724 --> 00:46:51,850
I built an empire.
837
00:46:52,351 --> 00:46:53,185
Why not?
838
00:46:53,268 --> 00:46:57,606
Half a billion people
has been benefited directly, indirectly,
839
00:46:58,023 --> 00:46:59,817
from Bikram Yoga around the globe.
840
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:01,652
- Half a billion?
- Half a billion people.
841
00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,988
Right leg over the left leg.
842
00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:08,575
This is called natural Viagra.
843
00:47:08,659 --> 00:47:10,410
Do you do yoga
or any of that stuff, Bikram?
844
00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:13,288
I haven't yet. You know what,
I did that once and it was so hot.
845
00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:14,832
- The Bikram?
- I fell asleep.
846
00:47:14,915 --> 00:47:16,708
I was doing a position on the floor
847
00:47:16,792 --> 00:47:17,876
- and I fell asleep.
- Stop.
848
00:47:18,293 --> 00:47:20,879
Sandy and I did a lot
of Bikram Yoga together.
849
00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:25,425
Hey, let me tell you something.
It's just stretching in a hot room.
850
00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:26,885
That's all it is.
851
00:47:27,594 --> 00:47:29,346
I was doing that one where you...
852
00:47:31,181 --> 00:47:35,060
I mean, what Bikram's hook is
is that he turns up the heat so high...
853
00:47:35,143 --> 00:47:36,353
Right. That's what I've heard.
854
00:47:36,436 --> 00:47:37,354
In his studio,
855
00:47:37,437 --> 00:47:40,524
that if you were confused
that you were in Hell,
856
00:47:40,607 --> 00:47:42,276
he makes it very, very clear.
857
00:47:43,277 --> 00:47:46,071
I'm the most spiritual man, David,
858
00:47:46,154 --> 00:47:48,365
you ever met in your life,
859
00:47:48,574 --> 00:47:51,702
but today you are not old, educated,
860
00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:54,288
smart, intelligent, wise,
861
00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:55,998
experienced enough
862
00:47:56,331 --> 00:47:58,750
to understand who I am.
863
00:48:01,461 --> 00:48:04,047
I was never shy
about what was happening to me.
864
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:05,423
Um...
865
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:08,218
I was careful,
866
00:48:08,552 --> 00:48:12,431
because I wanted to make sure
that I still was able to teach,
867
00:48:12,764 --> 00:48:13,764
but I didn't...
868
00:48:15,017 --> 00:48:17,603
I don't know how to describe it.
I was, like...
869
00:48:18,812 --> 00:48:19,938
I don't want to say it.
870
00:48:20,022 --> 00:48:22,262
I don't want to say
that I was brainwashed, but that's...
871
00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:25,819
the sickness had, like, found me.
872
00:48:27,988 --> 00:48:32,534
And then my husband and I got pregnant.
873
00:48:36,872 --> 00:48:40,334
One of my only remaining goals
was I was gonna be a good mom.
874
00:48:42,210 --> 00:48:44,588
So, one day, I was teaching a yoga class,
875
00:48:44,671 --> 00:48:47,424
came out of the class,
and my daughter looked up at me.
876
00:48:47,507 --> 00:48:50,260
She wasn't even three years old yet,
and she said,"Mommy,
877
00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:52,638
I want to be just like you someday.
878
00:48:52,721 --> 00:48:54,056
"I want teach yoga."
879
00:48:54,973 --> 00:48:57,559
And all I could think
when I looked into her eyes was,
880
00:48:57,643 --> 00:48:59,519
"You can't do that. You'll get raped."
881
00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:03,899
And that night, I didn't sleep.
882
00:49:06,985 --> 00:49:10,530
I thought, "I have got to find somebody
to represent me"
883
00:49:11,073 --> 00:49:13,408
so that I can make this more public."
884
00:49:13,492 --> 00:49:15,202
Explosive allegations
885
00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:18,163
against one of the richest
and most famous yoga gurus on Earth.
886
00:49:20,165 --> 00:49:21,583
Tonight on Nightline.
887
00:49:21,667 --> 00:49:24,211
He absolutely chases women.
888
00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:26,421
He victimizes women.
889
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:30,759
And someone can look him in the eye
and say, "No,"
890
00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:34,096
and it doesn't matter.
891
00:49:35,097 --> 00:49:36,348
So, here's the story.
892
00:49:36,431 --> 00:49:39,184
Sarah rushed towards the door
with her shoes in her hand,
893
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:43,230
at which point Choudhury attacked her,
pinned her against the door,
894
00:49:43,313 --> 00:49:44,564
and sexually assaulted her.
895
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:45,732
Not truth.
896
00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:48,359
It's not truth.
897
00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:50,737
I don't do that. I don't have to.
898
00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:54,491
If I want to have sex with the women,
899
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:58,578
I don't need to attack them or rape them
900
00:49:58,662 --> 00:50:00,956
or abuse them or assault them.
901
00:50:01,623 --> 00:50:04,209
There'll be a line
of millions of women in the world,
902
00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:06,211
as a volunteer.
903
00:50:09,339 --> 00:50:12,551
I do remember
when the allegations came out
904
00:50:13,593 --> 00:50:16,263
and my co-workers said,
905
00:50:16,346 --> 00:50:20,225
"Oh, my God, someone is saying
that Bikram's a rapist."
906
00:50:21,101 --> 00:50:22,519
And I still remember this trip,
907
00:50:22,602 --> 00:50:25,105
and I looked, you know, between flights.
908
00:50:25,188 --> 00:50:27,542
I was flying a domestic trip,
and between flights, I looked,
909
00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:29,234
and I was, like, "Oh, holy shit."
910
00:50:29,818 --> 00:50:30,818
And it's Sarah.
911
00:50:32,696 --> 00:50:34,865
A lot of people
in the Bikram community were like,
912
00:50:34,948 --> 00:50:37,200
"Hey, did you hear
what happened with Sarah?"
913
00:50:38,368 --> 00:50:39,368
And...
914
00:50:40,662 --> 00:50:42,706
I, um...
915
00:50:55,761 --> 00:50:59,222
That's when I realized
it happened to somebody other than me.
916
00:51:00,348 --> 00:51:01,767
He's a person that...
917
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,645
has based a lot of truths
on a lot of lies.
918
00:51:05,729 --> 00:51:09,316
He's built an entire empire on...
919
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,860
how he tells everybody the truth.
920
00:51:11,943 --> 00:51:15,280
This whole veil
had just been lifted off of every...
921
00:51:15,363 --> 00:51:18,450
Every belief that I had
was just shattered.
922
00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,411
How did I not see this?
923
00:51:22,579 --> 00:51:23,789
Because I knew Sarah.
924
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:26,083
Sarah was like a daughter to me.
925
00:51:28,126 --> 00:51:32,047
So, I made a decision to post
this case of Sarah's
926
00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:34,925
to the Bikram Yoga Teachers
Facebook page.
927
00:51:45,852 --> 00:51:50,941
I was immediately met
with such, like, vitriol and hatred.
928
00:51:51,942 --> 00:51:54,152
People that were friends of mine
would say,
929
00:51:54,236 --> 00:51:55,737
"How dare you do this?"
930
00:51:55,821 --> 00:51:57,906
You know, "You were friends
with their family."
931
00:51:57,989 --> 00:52:00,158
"How dare you go against Bikram?"
932
00:52:02,786 --> 00:52:05,497
Liz Winfield went on,
933
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:08,959
I mean, I'll call it, I guess, it was
a fishing expedition on social media
934
00:52:09,042 --> 00:52:10,168
to find other women.
935
00:52:13,213 --> 00:52:15,549
I hated Liz Winfield for this.
936
00:52:15,924 --> 00:52:18,802
There was a camp
that was going to hang him by his nails,
937
00:52:19,177 --> 00:52:22,057
and there was a camp that was saying,
you know, these girls asked for it.
938
00:52:27,477 --> 00:52:29,896
They might have been young,
but they weren't stupid.
939
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:31,606
Naive? Maybe.
940
00:52:32,023 --> 00:52:34,192
Opportunistic? Maybe.
941
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:41,700
I was going back and forth with,
942
00:52:41,783 --> 00:52:44,536
"I can't teach with a studio
with Bikram's name on the wall,"
943
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:46,288
to, "Oh, my God, Sarah's such a bitch."
944
00:52:46,371 --> 00:52:48,915
I can't believe she would say this
against Bikram."
945
00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:50,917
And it was like these two voices,
946
00:52:51,001 --> 00:52:52,460
and it was driving me insane.
947
00:52:52,544 --> 00:52:54,629
They were going back and forth in my head.
948
00:52:57,048 --> 00:53:01,261
I came down to Los Angeles
to make a report with the LAPD.
949
00:53:03,805 --> 00:53:07,517
The detective asked me
what was I wearing.
950
00:53:08,059 --> 00:53:10,645
Was I drunk? Was I high?
951
00:53:10,729 --> 00:53:13,315
He asked me why I went back.
952
00:53:14,274 --> 00:53:15,650
You know, and I explained to him.
953
00:53:15,734 --> 00:53:19,654
Bikram is a deciding factor
of your livelihood,
954
00:53:20,071 --> 00:53:22,949
so you don't really have
much of a choice.
955
00:53:30,624 --> 00:53:32,626
I needed to speak.
956
00:53:34,544 --> 00:53:36,421
The young women who...
957
00:53:37,297 --> 00:53:39,633
want to believe in something so badly,
958
00:53:40,133 --> 00:53:41,133
he sees it.
959
00:53:42,677 --> 00:53:45,430
Those are the people that he targets,
because they're vulnerable.
960
00:53:45,513 --> 00:53:48,391
When I went, he said, "Now massage there."
961
00:53:48,475 --> 00:53:49,809
Now massage here."
962
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:52,938
Then, eventually, he said,
"Massage on my private parts."
963
00:53:53,021 --> 00:53:54,189
Like, "Oh, no."
964
00:53:57,192 --> 00:53:58,276
He raped me.
965
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,361
In his own house?
966
00:53:59,444 --> 00:54:00,278
Yes.
967
00:54:00,362 --> 00:54:02,322
- His wife's sleeping upstairs?
- Correct.
968
00:54:02,405 --> 00:54:04,282
And their daughter sleeping upstairs?
969
00:54:04,366 --> 00:54:05,366
And his son.
970
00:54:06,993 --> 00:54:11,373
When the sexual harassment
allegations started to escalate,
971
00:54:11,456 --> 00:54:13,375
I telephone Bikram in Hawaii,
972
00:54:13,458 --> 00:54:18,088
and I could tell that he was getting
increasingly unhinged, angry.
973
00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:21,049
He was blaming me for all of, uh...
974
00:54:21,132 --> 00:54:24,427
basically the woes of the business
and his personal woes.
975
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:30,475
And there was another case
that we were trying to settle.
976
00:54:31,601 --> 00:54:32,852
Pandhora Williams,
977
00:54:32,936 --> 00:54:35,021
she spent about $11,000
978
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:38,191
to attend his teacher training course
in 2010,
979
00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:41,027
and was offended by some of the things
she says Bikram said.
980
00:54:41,111 --> 00:54:42,737
"Women are bitches and whores.
981
00:54:42,821 --> 00:54:45,156
They're here for one thing,
to spread their legs."
982
00:54:45,532 --> 00:54:49,077
This was not about rape or sexual assault,
983
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,580
but it did involve
very severe racial abuse.
984
00:54:52,664 --> 00:54:55,417
"We don't sell love here,
you bitch! Get out.
985
00:54:56,126 --> 00:54:58,837
Get this black bitch out of here,
she's a cancer."
986
00:54:59,379 --> 00:55:03,341
I was served with a subpoena
by Pandhora's lawyers,
987
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:06,761
and Bikram went, like, completely ape.
988
00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:14,978
I was summonsed to a meeting with him
where we had to do a conference call.
989
00:55:16,896 --> 00:55:20,275
I was used to meeting him
in the living room part of the suite,
990
00:55:20,358 --> 00:55:21,943
but he went into the bedroom,
991
00:55:22,944 --> 00:55:25,572
got into bed,
crawled under the covers and...
992
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,157
patted the bed,
993
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,700
and sort of beckoned
994
00:55:28,783 --> 00:55:32,620
for me to come over
and sit on the bed with him.
995
00:55:32,704 --> 00:55:34,998
I didn't really know
what his intentions were,
996
00:55:35,081 --> 00:55:37,584
but it was very, um, frightening
and disturbing,
997
00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:40,003
because by that stage,
998
00:55:40,086 --> 00:55:42,756
I knew Bikram was a sexual predator
999
00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:45,717
and I was uncomfortable
being alone in the room with him.
1000
00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:51,473
I told his wife
that I thought the time had come
1001
00:55:51,598 --> 00:55:53,850
where Bikram needed
to be removed from power.
1002
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:58,897
He was just untenable, having him
at the helm of Bikram Yoga.
1003
00:56:01,274 --> 00:56:02,984
And she basically said to me,
1004
00:56:03,610 --> 00:56:04,610
"Be careful."
1005
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,738
Think about your daughter.
1006
00:56:07,947 --> 00:56:10,158
"Don't rock the boat.
Let him have his girls."
1007
00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:14,746
And it was a few days after,
1008
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:19,584
I got brutally and mercilessly
hauled into his room and told...
1009
00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:23,630
unless I resigned there and then,
1010
00:56:23,713 --> 00:56:26,674
bad things were going to happen to me.
1011
00:56:31,554 --> 00:56:33,515
Micki called me
and told me what happened,
1012
00:56:33,598 --> 00:56:34,598
told me she got fired
1013
00:56:34,641 --> 00:56:36,684
and told me a little bit
about the circumstances,
1014
00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:42,148
and I said, "I will take your case
on the condition that you commit"
1015
00:56:42,524 --> 00:56:45,235
to going to and through trial,
1016
00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:49,823
"And you can't settle,
no matter what they put on the table."
1017
00:56:51,032 --> 00:56:53,535
And to Micki's eternal credit,
1018
00:56:53,618 --> 00:56:55,662
she said, "I agree."
1019
00:56:58,623 --> 00:57:01,960
That's a very difficult conversation
to have with any client,
1020
00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:04,295
but it was particularly difficult,
1021
00:57:04,379 --> 00:57:06,464
because, at the time, Micki had no job,
1022
00:57:06,548 --> 00:57:10,051
she was thousands of miles
away from home,
1023
00:57:10,135 --> 00:57:13,430
having been brought here from India
for this job.
1024
00:57:15,223 --> 00:57:18,435
He had yanked her visa,
he had turned her lights off,
1025
00:57:18,518 --> 00:57:20,603
he repossessed her car.
1026
00:57:22,272 --> 00:57:24,065
Bikram is a dangerous man.
1027
00:57:26,734 --> 00:57:29,612
He's a clown in a lot of ways
because he's an idiot,
1028
00:57:29,696 --> 00:57:31,489
but he's a dangerous clown.
1029
00:57:38,830 --> 00:57:40,957
At first, I really didn't understand.
1030
00:57:42,125 --> 00:57:45,003
How could smart people,
but especially women,
1031
00:57:46,045 --> 00:57:50,884
endure weeks and weeks and weeks
with this guy.
1032
00:57:54,345 --> 00:57:55,555
They were pre-conditioned.
1033
00:57:58,016 --> 00:57:59,267
They were told,
1034
00:57:59,934 --> 00:58:03,396
"Don't question anything
that Bikram says.
1035
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,315
Trust the process."
1036
00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,570
The way teacher training works is
1037
00:58:10,653 --> 00:58:13,990
if you want to have the privilege
1038
00:58:14,073 --> 00:58:17,410
of going to
a Bikram Yoga teacher training,
1039
00:58:18,244 --> 00:58:21,039
you have to be recommended
by your own studio owner.
1040
00:58:22,081 --> 00:58:24,834
After a couple of classes, I may be told,
1041
00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:27,629
"Oh, you look really gifted.
1042
00:58:28,379 --> 00:58:30,131
You should go to teacher training."
1043
00:58:30,965 --> 00:58:35,136
And so it's this closed, incestuous system
1044
00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:37,680
that, unfortunately, ensures
1045
00:58:38,348 --> 00:58:41,976
not only that Bikram would get rich
and become more powerful,
1046
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,605
it ensures that he will continue to have
1047
00:58:45,688 --> 00:58:47,857
a crop of women
1048
00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,985
who are held captive during this training.
1049
00:58:55,657 --> 00:58:57,450
He had people around him
1050
00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:01,246
who their financial livelihood
1051
00:59:01,329 --> 00:59:04,707
depended upon keeping the silence.
1052
00:59:06,209 --> 00:59:08,336
Rajashree, his wife, in particular.
1053
00:59:10,004 --> 00:59:13,424
She wanted to continue to carry
her Birkin bag and drive her Bentley.
1054
00:59:15,009 --> 00:59:18,054
She knew exactly
what her husband was doing.
1055
00:59:22,850 --> 00:59:25,770
From the time we decided
to bring the lawsuit,
1056
00:59:25,853 --> 00:59:28,273
it took three years
to get the case to trial.
1057
00:59:29,482 --> 00:59:32,986
He's always resisted any pre-trial stuff.
1058
00:59:34,696 --> 00:59:36,364
Bikram used to always say to me,
1059
00:59:36,447 --> 00:59:38,700
"Famous people don't do depositions."
1060
00:59:38,783 --> 00:59:41,995
He would always be on my case
to get his depositions postponed
1061
00:59:42,078 --> 00:59:43,121
or canceled.
1062
00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:46,082
We knew that they would use
all of the tactics,
1063
00:59:46,165 --> 00:59:48,710
which was delay, delay, delay.
1064
00:59:49,627 --> 00:59:52,755
I think he went through,
like, seven different sets of lawyers.
1065
00:59:53,631 --> 00:59:56,884
Because Bikram considers himself
to be above the law.
1066
00:59:56,968 --> 00:59:59,637
You're here today.
I'm here today to take the deposition.
1067
00:59:59,721 --> 01:00:01,198
If you think you're going
to suspend the deposition...
1068
01:00:01,222 --> 01:00:02,599
Then go ahead and stop it now!
1069
01:00:02,682 --> 01:00:03,808
Go ahead and stop it now,
1070
01:00:03,891 --> 01:00:05,643
'cause we're gonna say
what we're gonna say.
1071
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:07,007
Please don't interrupt me and...
1072
01:00:07,061 --> 01:00:09,748
- I'm going to say what I'm going to say.
- Please don't raise your voice.
1073
01:00:09,772 --> 01:00:10,940
I'm not raising my voice.
1074
01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:13,252
I'm simply telling you that you're not
going to tell me...
1075
01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:14,402
Please don't interrupt me.
1076
01:00:14,485 --> 01:00:15,862
You were interrupting me!
1077
01:00:15,945 --> 01:00:18,197
If they could provoke me
and goad me
1078
01:00:18,281 --> 01:00:21,951
into calling the deposition
or walking out,
1079
01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:24,871
it would be to their advantage
and to my client's detriment.
1080
01:00:24,954 --> 01:00:27,165
I know you are very much hoping
1081
01:00:27,248 --> 01:00:30,293
that you provoke this to the point
that I'm going to suspend the deposition.
1082
01:00:30,376 --> 01:00:32,170
Let me tell you,
we've waited for a year...
1083
01:00:32,253 --> 01:00:34,589
- Great, then take it. Go.
- To get this deposition.
1084
01:00:34,672 --> 01:00:35,840
We've had to go to court.
1085
01:00:35,923 --> 01:00:37,860
We've had to get
your client sanctioned to get here.
1086
01:00:37,884 --> 01:00:40,011
You've now wasted
ten minutes of your deposition time.
1087
01:00:40,094 --> 01:00:41,572
- So you won't provoke me...
- Go ahead.
1088
01:00:41,596 --> 01:00:46,184
And he didn't like being forced
to sit in a chair and answer questions,
1089
01:00:46,267 --> 01:00:48,436
particularly from a woman.
1090
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:49,937
Don't stop me when I'm talking.
1091
01:00:50,021 --> 01:00:50,897
Mr. Choudhury.
1092
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:52,190
This is where the judge...
1093
01:00:52,273 --> 01:00:53,608
Please. Please, don't stop me.
1094
01:00:53,691 --> 01:00:55,360
- For poor behavior.
- You...
1095
01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:56,443
Behavior.
1096
01:00:56,486 --> 01:00:58,571
Whose behavior? Talking about behavior?
1097
01:00:58,655 --> 01:01:00,365
Do you know how to spell behavior?
1098
01:01:00,740 --> 01:01:05,703
You are the most misbehaved person
I ever met in my entire life.
1099
01:01:05,787 --> 01:01:06,787
I thought...
1100
01:01:07,372 --> 01:01:09,666
"This is great. Keep going."
1101
01:01:09,749 --> 01:01:12,085
You can take brass
and polish a thousand years.
1102
01:01:12,168 --> 01:01:14,295
It's never going to be gold.
1103
01:01:14,629 --> 01:01:16,631
Would you like to take a break,
Mr. Choudhury?
1104
01:01:16,714 --> 01:01:19,967
You cannot take a donkey
and train for a hundred years.
1105
01:01:20,051 --> 01:01:22,220
It never could be a horse.
1106
01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:24,389
So, that's your problem.
1107
01:01:24,472 --> 01:01:26,516
That's why you've got divorce
in this country.
1108
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,184
And that's why you need Bikram.
1109
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,022
So, I guess having been called
the donkey by Mr. Choudhury
1110
01:01:33,106 --> 01:01:34,148
will go off the record.
1111
01:01:34,565 --> 01:01:36,526
When he would...
1112
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,445
engage in those kind of personal attacks,
1113
01:01:39,529 --> 01:01:42,407
I thought,
"This is what's going to happen at trial.
1114
01:01:42,490 --> 01:01:44,617
He cannot control himself."
1115
01:01:45,243 --> 01:01:48,454
Uh, you have said that there are
three things you don't like.
1116
01:01:48,538 --> 01:01:50,873
No, you are wrong.
Not three things, four things.
1117
01:01:50,957 --> 01:01:51,833
What are they?
1118
01:01:51,916 --> 01:01:53,126
I always said I don't like...
1119
01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:54,919
cold weather,
1120
01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:57,672
cold food,
1121
01:01:58,172 --> 01:01:59,298
cold heart,
1122
01:01:59,799 --> 01:02:00,967
and cold pussy.
1123
01:02:01,384 --> 01:02:02,218
Uh...
1124
01:02:02,301 --> 01:02:04,554
So you didn't complete. I complete it.
1125
01:02:04,637 --> 01:02:05,471
Thank you.
1126
01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:06,555
You're welcome.
1127
01:02:11,686 --> 01:02:14,772
The founder of Bikram Yoga
was in an LA court.
1128
01:02:15,273 --> 01:02:17,316
He's accused of firing his lawyer
1129
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,194
for investigating claims
of sexual harassment.
1130
01:02:21,362 --> 01:02:25,241
Micki's case involved claims
primarily for sexual harassment,
1131
01:02:25,324 --> 01:02:28,035
gender discrimination,
wrongful termination.
1132
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:30,413
Those were what I'll call the core claims.
1133
01:02:32,331 --> 01:02:34,876
When I was questioning various witnesses,
1134
01:02:34,959 --> 01:02:37,336
I would often stand behind Bikram,
1135
01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:38,588
which he didn't like,
1136
01:02:38,671 --> 01:02:40,506
and he had four or five lawyers,
1137
01:02:41,299 --> 01:02:44,302
and they would try to position their chair
so I couldn't get close to him.
1138
01:02:45,970 --> 01:02:50,641
At one point, he demanded
that his lawyers ask the judge
1139
01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:53,478
to prevent me from doing that.
1140
01:02:53,561 --> 01:02:54,896
And, of course, the judge said,
1141
01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:57,732
"Miss Minnard can go wherever she wants
in the courtroom."
1142
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,528
I remember one of the lawyers
actually said to Carla,
1143
01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:07,575
"It would be malpractice for us to allow
Bikram to testify on his own behalf."
1144
01:03:10,161 --> 01:03:12,455
His prior testimony had been,
"I'm bankrupt,"
1145
01:03:12,538 --> 01:03:14,332
I live on borrowed money from my family.
1146
01:03:14,415 --> 01:03:17,001
"I haven't earned any money
in the last three years."
1147
01:03:18,169 --> 01:03:21,672
We had pictures of his children,
you know, on shopping sprees,
1148
01:03:21,756 --> 01:03:24,759
on Rodeo Drive
in their convertible Ferraris
1149
01:03:24,842 --> 01:03:25,842
taking selfies,
1150
01:03:25,885 --> 01:03:28,346
saying, "Thank you, Daddy,
for the new car."
1151
01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:35,895
I asked him, I said,
"Well, if you don't have any income,
1152
01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:40,691
how is it that you bought your wife
a $350,000 Bentley two weeks ago?"
1153
01:03:41,859 --> 01:03:45,279
I could see the wheels turning
when he realized he was sort of trapped.
1154
01:03:45,363 --> 01:03:47,490
He said, "But those cars are not my cars."
1155
01:03:48,115 --> 01:03:50,868
So I said, "Well, if you don't own them,
who does?"
1156
01:03:50,952 --> 01:03:52,203
And he said,
1157
01:03:52,286 --> 01:03:53,621
"The State of California."
1158
01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:57,083
"So, okay. Well, how is it
that the State of California
1159
01:03:57,166 --> 01:03:59,001
owns all these cars in this warehouse?"
1160
01:03:59,085 --> 01:04:01,712
And he goes,
"Well, I have a deal with Jerry Brown."
1161
01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:04,423
I said, "Jerry Brown, the governor?"
He said, "Yes."
1162
01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:08,344
You can see the jury
is leaning forward in their seat,
1163
01:04:08,427 --> 01:04:10,513
and the judge is sitting there like this.
1164
01:04:10,930 --> 01:04:14,100
I'm like, "Okay, so what was the deal
you had with Jerry Brown?"
1165
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:15,559
And he said,
1166
01:04:16,185 --> 01:04:20,189
"I promised to give all my cars
to the State of California."
1167
01:04:20,273 --> 01:04:22,817
And I go, "Okay, and in exchange for that,
what did you get?"
1168
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,404
And he said, "Jerry Brown and the state
agreed to build a school in my name."
1169
01:04:26,487 --> 01:04:28,114
I go, "What kind of school?"
1170
01:04:28,197 --> 01:04:30,491
And he said, "An engineering school".
1171
01:04:30,575 --> 01:04:32,743
Well, I said, "What's the name
of this school?"
1172
01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:34,453
And he goes, "It's the Bikram..."
1173
01:04:35,121 --> 01:04:39,208
School of Engineering for Children,
so that they can build Bentleys."
1174
01:04:39,292 --> 01:04:42,545
He was making it up as he went along,
and that's when the jury started laughing.
1175
01:04:45,673 --> 01:04:50,428
And then he went on this whole rant
about having healed President Nixon.
1176
01:04:53,306 --> 01:04:55,224
And that in return for that,
1177
01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:59,186
President Nixon got Bikram a visa
1178
01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:01,355
so that he could become
a United States citizen.
1179
01:05:02,523 --> 01:05:04,901
We actually contacted the Nixon Library,
1180
01:05:05,484 --> 01:05:08,154
gave them the time frame
when this allegedly happened.
1181
01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:11,824
The name Bikram Choudhury
did not come up once.
1182
01:05:13,868 --> 01:05:15,202
No evidence of that at all.
1183
01:05:16,621 --> 01:05:20,166
In his head, I think he thinks
what he says is the truth,
1184
01:05:20,666 --> 01:05:22,919
even though the evidence is right there,
1185
01:05:23,002 --> 01:05:25,129
clearly what he's saying is not true,
he'll say it.
1186
01:05:25,212 --> 01:05:27,632
In many ways, he really is dumb as a post.
1187
01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:31,928
He stepped down off that witness stand
and gave his lawyers the thumbs up.
1188
01:05:32,011 --> 01:05:33,011
Not kidding.
1189
01:05:33,220 --> 01:05:37,350
Uh, that's how disconnected he is
from reality at times.
1190
01:05:40,603 --> 01:05:42,563
First, reports started coming in
1191
01:05:42,647 --> 01:05:45,608
of what was going wrong with his empire.
1192
01:05:50,404 --> 01:05:55,451
When I started my research
into Bikram's roots in Calcutta,
1193
01:05:57,536 --> 01:05:59,163
the more I dug into it,
1194
01:05:59,246 --> 01:06:02,291
the more I was intrigued
and drawn to it
1195
01:06:03,417 --> 01:06:05,753
because I was not getting
the right answers.
1196
01:06:09,674 --> 01:06:12,969
One of the last interviews
that he gave was for Elle Magazine.
1197
01:06:14,345 --> 01:06:16,138
And I spoke to the journalist.
1198
01:06:17,056 --> 01:06:19,433
I asked him,
"So, what did you think of him?"
1199
01:06:20,726 --> 01:06:24,355
He said, "I don't know. He seemed to be
like this typical character"
1200
01:06:24,438 --> 01:06:25,898
from North Calcutta
1201
01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,483
"that you read about in storybooks."
1202
01:06:30,027 --> 01:06:33,406
There would be this guy
sitting in a North Calcutta...
1203
01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:34,615
chai shop
1204
01:06:34,699 --> 01:06:38,661
and talking about,
"Oh, you know, in the year 1939,"
1205
01:06:38,744 --> 01:06:41,288
I went on an expedition
to the Amazon forest.
1206
01:06:42,206 --> 01:06:43,332
"Guess what happened?"
1207
01:06:44,417 --> 01:06:46,460
We grew up with characters like this.
1208
01:06:46,544 --> 01:06:48,879
To actually find someone
in flesh and blood
1209
01:06:48,963 --> 01:06:51,632
who was capable of spinning these yarns
1210
01:06:51,716 --> 01:06:52,967
was quite something.
1211
01:06:53,050 --> 01:06:56,262
So the world has President Nixon
to thank for Bikram?
1212
01:06:56,345 --> 01:06:58,681
One hundred and ten percent.
1213
01:06:58,764 --> 01:07:00,391
Listen, in India,
1214
01:07:00,474 --> 01:07:04,103
when you teach 10,000 people,
you said, "I taught ten million people."
1215
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,149
Bikram three times served
as national yoga champion of India.
1216
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,574
I don't know what yoga championship
he's talking about.
1217
01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:20,703
At that time, competitive yoga
didn't really happen.
1218
01:07:21,704 --> 01:07:24,081
There was no formal yoga contest
1219
01:07:24,165 --> 01:07:26,542
that he could have won
for five times in a row,
1220
01:07:26,625 --> 01:07:28,544
because still, 19, 20 years of age,
1221
01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:32,798
he was still doing things
like bodybuilding
1222
01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:35,092
and stunt shows.
1223
01:07:51,358 --> 01:07:55,780
I'm the smartest man in the world
you ever met in your entire life.
1224
01:07:56,197 --> 01:07:57,823
I make a package.
1225
01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,577
Twenty-six postures,
two breathing exercises.
1226
01:08:02,286 --> 01:08:03,704
It works!
1227
01:08:05,414 --> 01:08:07,875
After talking to some
of his contemporaries here,
1228
01:08:08,626 --> 01:08:11,337
this 26 plus two
that he keeps talking about,
1229
01:08:12,046 --> 01:08:14,590
these postures were not created by him.
1230
01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:26,560
Everything he taught...
1231
01:08:28,354 --> 01:08:30,606
was the lesson of his master.
1232
01:08:33,943 --> 01:08:36,195
Bishnu Ghosh actually was a giant.
1233
01:08:38,072 --> 01:08:41,158
Perhaps the greatest yoga therapist.
1234
01:08:42,993 --> 01:08:49,458
When I heard that Bikram declared
my master's yoga as Bikram Yoga,
1235
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:51,752
that made me a little bit...
1236
01:08:52,378 --> 01:08:53,378
annoyed.
1237
01:08:55,005 --> 01:08:58,592
I can teach something
which I learned from my master,
1238
01:08:58,676 --> 01:09:00,970
but it is my ethics
1239
01:09:01,053 --> 01:09:05,474
that I must tell my student
that it is not mine.
1240
01:09:06,725 --> 01:09:11,147
He told that 26 plus two yoga
is Bikram Yoga.
1241
01:09:11,605 --> 01:09:12,898
That is wrong.
1242
01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:17,820
That is basically
based on my master's booklet.
1243
01:09:40,634 --> 01:09:45,556
That booklet very fortunately
has now been published.
1244
01:09:45,639 --> 01:09:47,516
And I was the catalyst,
1245
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,021
because I had the only one, single copy
perhaps in the world.
1246
01:09:53,022 --> 01:09:54,773
How many times I demonstrate?
1247
01:09:55,149 --> 01:09:56,775
Almost every week, right?
1248
01:09:57,193 --> 01:09:58,694
Still, you're cheating.
1249
01:09:58,986 --> 01:10:00,029
English way.
1250
01:10:00,446 --> 01:10:01,822
And American way. Why?
1251
01:10:02,990 --> 01:10:04,200
Compensating.
1252
01:10:05,284 --> 01:10:07,995
Americans nice, sweet people.
They don't call it cheating.
1253
01:10:08,078 --> 01:10:11,207
They call... You don't call it stealing.
You say, "Just take it over."
1254
01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:12,291
Arms over the head!
1255
01:10:13,959 --> 01:10:17,171
He's been playing hopscotch
with facts and the truth
1256
01:10:17,254 --> 01:10:18,672
for all his life.
1257
01:10:25,471 --> 01:10:29,433
The jury deliberated
for little more than a day and a half.
1258
01:10:31,101 --> 01:10:33,020
They found in Micki's favor
1259
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,023
on every single claim
1260
01:10:36,565 --> 01:10:37,691
unanimously,
1261
01:10:37,775 --> 01:10:39,276
which is extraordinary.
1262
01:10:40,569 --> 01:10:42,821
A Los Angeles jury hit Bikram Choudhury
1263
01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:45,991
with nearly seven and a half
million dollars in damages
1264
01:10:46,075 --> 01:10:48,077
to his former legal advisor.
1265
01:10:49,161 --> 01:10:51,789
What I wanted to show my daughter
was that I could stand up,
1266
01:10:51,872 --> 01:10:53,123
and through the fear...
1267
01:10:53,207 --> 01:10:55,960
so, work through the fear
and still stand up.
1268
01:10:57,711 --> 01:11:00,547
Their verdict concluded
that he had acted
1269
01:11:00,631 --> 01:11:03,592
with malice, oppression, or fraud.
1270
01:11:05,135 --> 01:11:07,346
It was deeply satisfying
1271
01:11:07,429 --> 01:11:10,891
to see him run out of the courtroom.
1272
01:11:12,726 --> 01:11:13,894
Mr. Choudhury.
1273
01:11:15,938 --> 01:11:18,274
He was hot-stepping it
like he were on fire.
1274
01:11:18,732 --> 01:11:21,193
- Can we speak with you?
- Please don't bother me. Please.
1275
01:11:23,195 --> 01:11:25,864
Can you say anything
about any of the other lawsuits
1276
01:11:25,948 --> 01:11:27,616
that are being filed against you?
1277
01:11:28,409 --> 01:11:31,495
He was on his heels for a change
after all he had done.
1278
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:35,708
That felt so good.
1279
01:11:48,012 --> 01:11:49,346
The founder of Bikram Yoga
1280
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:52,016
accused of hiding assets
and now fleeing the country
1281
01:11:52,391 --> 01:11:54,018
amid allegations of sex assault.
1282
01:11:55,102 --> 01:11:57,646
Bikram Choudhury never paid
the judgment against him.
1283
01:11:57,730 --> 01:12:01,400
Authorities believe the 69-year-old
Choudhury has hidden assets,
1284
01:12:01,483 --> 01:12:03,152
and he has left the country.
1285
01:12:04,069 --> 01:12:05,487
He and his wife filed a...
1286
01:12:05,571 --> 01:12:07,614
what we believe to be a sham divorce,
1287
01:12:07,906 --> 01:12:10,743
where all of the assets that he had
1288
01:12:10,826 --> 01:12:13,412
went into his wife Rajashree's name
1289
01:12:13,829 --> 01:12:15,331
to shield it from the verdict.
1290
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,418
What the judges said to us was
1291
01:12:20,085 --> 01:12:22,379
wherever he is,
I don't care if he's in Timbuktu,
1292
01:12:22,463 --> 01:12:23,714
go and find him and serve him,
1293
01:12:23,797 --> 01:12:26,133
and he needs to know
that I've made this order.
1294
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,929
When my process servers
served him in Thailand,
1295
01:12:32,222 --> 01:12:34,475
they were faced with brutal attacks.
1296
01:12:34,558 --> 01:12:35,869
- Get out!
- Get the fuck out of here!
1297
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:37,227
Get the fuck out of here!
1298
01:12:37,311 --> 01:12:38,788
I'm gonna throw you out right now!
Get out!
1299
01:12:38,812 --> 01:12:41,523
- Those are legal documents.
- Legal documents, my ass! Fuck you!
1300
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:42,649
It's my toilet paper.
1301
01:12:42,733 --> 01:12:44,044
- You've been served.
- Go, fucker!
1302
01:12:44,068 --> 01:12:46,945
- You've been served.
- Served my ass, asshole. Get out.
1303
01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:50,616
There's probably been
several thousand hours spent
1304
01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:51,992
trying to collect this judgment.
1305
01:12:56,538 --> 01:12:59,541
But Micki herself
hasn't collected a penny.
1306
01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:02,211
The civil court can only do so much
1307
01:13:02,294 --> 01:13:05,714
with a debtor
who has fled the jurisdiction.
1308
01:13:11,011 --> 01:13:13,972
I don't know why
he hasn't been charged criminally.
1309
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,601
I think there's a tremendous reluctance
1310
01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:21,230
on the part of the District Attorney
to go after powerful men.
1311
01:13:23,273 --> 01:13:25,609
So I sent Jackie Lacey a letter
1312
01:13:26,276 --> 01:13:27,277
asking why,
1313
01:13:27,361 --> 01:13:29,988
after more than half a dozen women
came forward,
1314
01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:32,408
why her office
1315
01:13:32,491 --> 01:13:34,159
chose not to prosecute him.
1316
01:13:45,295 --> 01:13:46,755
Why didn't they do anything?
1317
01:13:49,174 --> 01:13:51,677
She didn't have a satisfactory answer,
to me.
1318
01:13:54,638 --> 01:13:57,182
Well, if Jackie Lacey
were to wake up at some point
1319
01:13:57,266 --> 01:13:59,059
and decide to pursue Bikram...
1320
01:13:59,143 --> 01:14:01,061
one of my top priorities...
1321
01:14:01,145 --> 01:14:04,606
all of the testimony
that Bikram gave in his civil case
1322
01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:05,690
would be admissible
1323
01:14:06,150 --> 01:14:07,484
in the criminal trial.
1324
01:14:07,818 --> 01:14:08,735
I take Fifth Amendment.
1325
01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:10,112
Bikram pled the Fifth Amendment
1326
01:14:10,195 --> 01:14:13,490
- multiple times in his deposition.
- I take Fifth Amendment. Thank you.
1327
01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:17,703
When you take the Fifth Amendment
in that manner as Bikram did,
1328
01:14:17,786 --> 01:14:20,706
you know, there is an inference of guilt.
1329
01:14:21,498 --> 01:14:22,875
Is it true...
1330
01:14:23,834 --> 01:14:24,834
that...
1331
01:14:25,752 --> 01:14:28,464
you had sex with female trainees
1332
01:14:28,922 --> 01:14:31,383
when those students, according to you,
1333
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,970
said they would kill themselves
unless you had sex with them?
1334
01:14:36,221 --> 01:14:37,222
I'll take Fifth.
1335
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:40,350
You had female students
masturbate you
1336
01:14:40,434 --> 01:14:43,020
during teacher training
at the LAX Radisson.
1337
01:14:43,103 --> 01:14:44,730
Isn't that right, Mr. Choudhury?
1338
01:14:45,606 --> 01:14:46,690
I'll take Fifth.
1339
01:14:47,024 --> 01:14:50,652
All of that testimony
would be admissible in a criminal case.
1340
01:14:51,445 --> 01:14:52,445
I take Fifth.
1341
01:14:52,529 --> 01:14:53,822
I take Fifth. I take Fifth.
1342
01:14:53,906 --> 01:14:55,782
I'll take Fifth. I'll take Fifth.
1343
01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:57,242
So, I'll take Fifth.
1344
01:14:57,701 --> 01:14:59,912
In my mind,
there's absolutely no reason
1345
01:14:59,995 --> 01:15:01,955
that a criminal case can't be pursued.
1346
01:15:05,459 --> 01:15:10,047
I wanted to sit in court
and look him straight in the eye.
1347
01:15:11,089 --> 01:15:15,928
And I wanted him to see me
and what he did to me.
1348
01:15:17,179 --> 01:15:19,223
Micki's case was the first case.
1349
01:15:19,765 --> 01:15:21,993
And then you have all these other cases
coming up behind,
1350
01:15:22,017 --> 01:15:25,103
and those victims have to make a decision.
1351
01:15:26,021 --> 01:15:28,232
"Are we gonna go in
and try our case against Bikram
1352
01:15:28,315 --> 01:15:31,068
who's not here anymore
because he's fled the country?"
1353
01:15:31,652 --> 01:15:33,779
And you got to say,
"Why do I wanna do that?
1354
01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:35,781
If and when I win,
I'm not going to collect."
1355
01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:38,259
And I think that's what happened
with some of the other cases
1356
01:15:38,283 --> 01:15:39,535
that were behind Micki's.
1357
01:15:39,993 --> 01:15:43,830
You know, my option was to go to court
and get re-traumatized,
1358
01:15:43,914 --> 01:15:45,624
and he wasn't even gonna be there.
1359
01:15:47,584 --> 01:15:48,584
Or...
1360
01:15:49,711 --> 01:15:50,711
you know, I settle,
1361
01:15:50,754 --> 01:15:53,674
and I'm able to actually move on
in my life.
1362
01:15:55,884 --> 01:16:00,389
But when you choose to settle,
you're not really getting justice.
1363
01:16:02,516 --> 01:16:06,937
The sum of money that
we settled for didn't cover very much.
1364
01:16:08,313 --> 01:16:10,440
I didn't imagine that I would ever settle.
1365
01:16:11,817 --> 01:16:16,613
And, in fact, I turned down
multiple settlement offers...
1366
01:16:17,739 --> 01:16:20,576
um, wanting to continue to fight.
1367
01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:25,747
And I would still be fighting,
1368
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:27,791
but he's gone.
1369
01:16:37,009 --> 01:16:38,552
The whole experience for me
1370
01:16:38,885 --> 01:16:42,264
reminded me of one of those
old-fashioned Polaroid pictures.
1371
01:16:42,347 --> 01:16:45,851
You'd pull it out of the camera,
and it slowly develops in front of you.
1372
01:16:46,393 --> 01:16:49,104
And you see a little more detail,
and a little more detail,
1373
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:50,522
and a little more detail.
1374
01:16:50,814 --> 01:16:51,982
And so you're waiting to see.
1375
01:16:54,401 --> 01:16:57,529
And finally, it had developed.
I had seen enough.
1376
01:16:57,904 --> 01:17:00,616
I even realized
that I have a characteristic
1377
01:17:00,699 --> 01:17:03,619
of staying too long in situations
that I probably should have left sooner.
1378
01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:08,415
I had moved to New Orleans in 2015,
1379
01:17:08,498 --> 01:17:10,792
and I was teaching at a studio
in New Orleans.
1380
01:17:11,335 --> 01:17:13,587
And one day, I had taught a class,
1381
01:17:14,504 --> 01:17:17,966
and I had fully come to terms
with the fact
1382
01:17:18,383 --> 01:17:19,885
that I can't teach it anymore.
1383
01:17:21,428 --> 01:17:24,097
I know for a fact
he abused a lot more than six women,
1384
01:17:24,848 --> 01:17:27,601
because I've talked to many other women
who he's abused.
1385
01:17:29,603 --> 01:17:30,603
It...
1386
01:17:30,646 --> 01:17:33,023
Sorry, it was really hard because...
1387
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:35,316
Sorry.
1388
01:17:35,484 --> 01:17:37,527
He was always so good to me.
1389
01:17:38,904 --> 01:17:41,406
And I wouldn't be the person...
1390
01:17:42,866 --> 01:17:45,994
I wouldn't be the person who I am today
without him,
1391
01:17:46,078 --> 01:17:48,705
and for them to go by the...
1392
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:52,125
for them to go publicly
and say this was, like...
1393
01:17:53,293 --> 01:17:55,337
It was like they were trying to, like...
1394
01:17:57,381 --> 01:18:00,676
publicly annihilate my father.
1395
01:18:06,431 --> 01:18:09,309
And then I get
a private message from Jill.
1396
01:18:10,769 --> 01:18:12,604
She was in Las Vegas teacher training.
1397
01:18:12,688 --> 01:18:14,815
She came there
when she was 18 years old.
1398
01:18:21,238 --> 01:18:22,948
When you have a young girl...
1399
01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:26,201
Sorry. Um...
1400
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,372
When you have a young girl
send you a seven-page letter
1401
01:18:30,455 --> 01:18:31,498
that tells you.
1402
01:18:32,082 --> 01:18:35,669
Bikram pulled his dick out
and wanted her to lick it,
1403
01:18:35,752 --> 01:18:39,840
and he is holding you down
and forcing you to have sex,
1404
01:18:39,923 --> 01:18:41,049
and you're saying, "No."
1405
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:42,550
No."
1406
01:18:43,635 --> 01:18:44,636
I lost it.
1407
01:18:46,972 --> 01:18:49,182
I was the medical volunteer
at that teacher training,
1408
01:18:49,266 --> 01:18:51,601
and that meant
that Jill didn't trust me enough
1409
01:18:51,685 --> 01:18:53,228
to come to me at that time.
1410
01:18:53,854 --> 01:18:55,897
That I was seen as the other side,
1411
01:18:55,981 --> 01:18:58,275
that I would have covered it up, you know?
1412
01:18:58,358 --> 01:18:59,651
I hope I wouldn't have.
1413
01:19:03,697 --> 01:19:06,116
It's heart-breaking
how he has just let this community...
1414
01:19:06,199 --> 01:19:10,036
from his own greed, ego, narcissism,
1415
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,831
has destroyed this community
on so many other levels.
1416
01:19:14,833 --> 01:19:19,045
And me, along with many other
Bikram Studios,
1417
01:19:19,129 --> 01:19:22,424
realized that we needed
to actually have some evolution.
1418
01:19:24,509 --> 01:19:29,681
At the end of 2015, I did change the name
to Hot Yoga Pasadena.
1419
01:19:31,933 --> 01:19:34,436
It's just sad. It's devastating.
1420
01:19:34,519 --> 01:19:36,188
But the main thing to me
1421
01:19:36,271 --> 01:19:40,025
and why I agreed to speak with you
was because...
1422
01:19:40,567 --> 01:19:44,196
this yoga is magical.
1423
01:19:47,157 --> 01:19:48,992
It's a very powerful technique.
1424
01:19:51,161 --> 01:19:54,206
I'll never stop doing it.
I'll never stop promoting it.
1425
01:19:56,374 --> 01:19:59,294
I'm happy he's still doing
his teacher trainings.
1426
01:20:02,297 --> 01:20:06,468
For some reason, I get the feeling
he's gonna make a comeback.
1427
01:20:11,348 --> 01:20:13,391
The only way
that he gets away with it
1428
01:20:13,475 --> 01:20:15,268
is us letting him get away with it.
1429
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:21,691
And anybody who knows about his actions
and still goes to his teacher trainings
1430
01:20:21,775 --> 01:20:26,029
or carries his name
or does anything under his banner...
1431
01:20:27,489 --> 01:20:28,949
I hope people wise up.
1432
01:20:34,037 --> 01:20:35,497
Do you think anything's changed?
1433
01:20:35,580 --> 01:20:38,667
He's back down in Mexico right now,
opening up a teacher training,
1434
01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:42,003
and studios are still
sending girls to him.
1435
01:21:11,741 --> 01:21:12,784
Hi, everybody.
1436
01:21:12,868 --> 01:21:15,954
This is Bikram, speaking from India.
1437
01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:18,582
Good news. Do you know what?
1438
01:21:19,124 --> 01:21:23,086
At last, I announce
my next teacher training
1439
01:21:23,879 --> 01:21:26,965
to make it the best one
and the biggest one.
1440
01:21:33,096 --> 01:21:35,348
♪ Don't look so sad ♪
1441
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:40,061
♪ It's not over ♪
1442
01:21:40,770 --> 01:21:43,732
♪ Long way from home ♪
1443
01:21:43,815 --> 01:21:46,234
♪ To kill yourself ♪
1444
01:21:46,735 --> 01:21:51,948
♪ That's why you pay for
That's why I am here ♪
1445
01:22:03,835 --> 01:22:09,424
Got it? Good back. Good back.
We call that a good back.
1446
01:22:09,799 --> 01:22:11,217
- Is it good?
- Yeah.
1447
01:22:11,301 --> 01:22:13,094
Are you solid? Touch your elbow.
1448
01:22:13,845 --> 01:22:16,765
No, on the floor. Floor.
1449
01:22:17,557 --> 01:22:18,600
Floor.
1450
01:22:18,683 --> 01:22:19,726
Ready?
1451
01:22:19,809 --> 01:22:21,061
- Are you ready?
- Yes.
1452
01:22:21,144 --> 01:22:23,355
Watch. One, two, three, go.
1453
01:22:26,316 --> 01:22:28,610
One, two, three, go. What happened?
1454
01:22:28,693 --> 01:22:30,487
One, two, three, and go.
1455
01:22:38,995 --> 01:22:39,996
See?
1455
01:22:40,305 --> 01:23:40,511
Someone needs to stop Clearway Law.
Public shouldn't leave reviews for lawyers.
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