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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,417 --> 00:00:03,503 (film rolling sound) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:07,841 --> 00:00:13,888 (dramatic flute music) 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:17,016 --> 00:00:19,686 (ominous music) 6 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:28,987 (ominous music) 7 00:00:43,209 --> 00:00:47,255 - [Simon] Never in my wildest dreams 8 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:51,968 did I think when I told Gary something bad is gonna happen, 9 00:00:54,304 --> 00:00:56,514 did I think it was gonna be this. 10 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:01,102 - [Gal] I can't imagine 11 00:01:01,102 --> 00:01:03,730 what Gary must have been going through 12 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:05,231 and how he must have felt 13 00:01:05,231 --> 00:01:08,902 being so alone and so far out there. 14 00:01:12,614 --> 00:01:15,075 - [Beverly] He said that the longer he stood 15 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:16,242 and looked at it, 16 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:22,457 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 17 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:25,919 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 18 00:01:25,919 --> 00:01:28,755 (thunder roaring) 19 00:02:09,629 --> 00:02:11,131 (thunder roars) 20 00:02:19,347 --> 00:02:22,183 (thunder roaring) 21 00:02:23,768 --> 00:02:25,770 (dramatic music) 22 00:02:55,633 --> 00:02:56,968 - I first knew something was wrong 23 00:02:56,968 --> 00:03:00,138 when I was on the phone with my publisher, 24 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:03,057 and Simon kept trying to call in. 25 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:06,352 And so once I was off the phone with my publisher, 26 00:03:06,352 --> 00:03:10,064 I called Simon who's Gary's roommate. 27 00:03:10,064 --> 00:03:13,902 And he told me that Gary was two days late. 28 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:16,738 That's not Gary, 29 00:03:16,738 --> 00:03:17,906 you know, Gary, 30 00:03:18,907 --> 00:03:21,326 would never leave Tuca that long, 31 00:03:21,326 --> 00:03:24,412 especially knowing that Simon had to go out of town. 32 00:03:24,412 --> 00:03:26,414 That's when I knew that there was something wrong, 33 00:03:26,414 --> 00:03:27,540 and I needed to get there. 34 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:32,378 So I packed up and left Panaca and headed straight to Ruth. 35 00:03:32,378 --> 00:03:34,631 I needed to see what was going on 36 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:37,008 and make sure that my brother was okay. 37 00:03:37,008 --> 00:03:39,469 And to take care of Tuca until he could get back. 38 00:03:42,513 --> 00:03:44,182 I really thought he would be back. 39 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,104 - I first met Gary when they were having an event 40 00:03:50,104 --> 00:03:52,440 at the Nevada Northern Railway. 41 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,403 And we both just kind of, wandered in each other's paths, 42 00:03:57,403 --> 00:03:59,948 and started talking about trains, 43 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:04,786 and, we were both looking for a place to stay. 44 00:04:04,786 --> 00:04:06,329 I was trying to find a place for work, 45 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:08,331 he was in between places, 46 00:04:08,331 --> 00:04:12,210 and we kind of just happened upon this place. 47 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:17,423 - The first time I heard the name, Gary Hinge, 48 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:22,262 I believe was when I was working for the radio station NNN, 49 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:23,388 It was um.. 50 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:24,931 I was an investigative reporter, 51 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:26,766 it was my first job right out of the gate, 52 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,851 and my producer came to me and he was like, 53 00:04:28,851 --> 00:04:30,436 we have to cover this, 54 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:32,689 I think it's a good idea for us to do this, 55 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:35,608 because the TV stations, the news, 56 00:04:35,608 --> 00:04:36,943 had stopped recording on it. 57 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:39,278 And so this was a way for us to get exclusives 58 00:04:39,278 --> 00:04:40,488 and to keep the story going. 59 00:04:40,488 --> 00:04:43,616 Because according to everyone else that was hearing about it 60 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:47,412 and reporting about it, it had just gone cold. 61 00:04:47,412 --> 00:04:50,123 - If you want me to describe my brother Gary, 62 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:54,502 the best way to describe him is, 63 00:04:55,628 --> 00:04:57,422 if there was a little lady that said, 64 00:04:57,422 --> 00:04:59,465 can you please watch my purse, 65 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:02,677 no matter where they were at, 66 00:05:02,677 --> 00:05:06,764 Gary would sit there and he would watch her purse 67 00:05:06,764 --> 00:05:10,101 and make sure that it was safe until she came back. 68 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:12,395 That was just the type of person that he was, 69 00:05:12,395 --> 00:05:17,400 he was trustworthy and amazing. 70 00:05:18,943 --> 00:05:19,819 Amazing. 71 00:05:21,612 --> 00:05:23,239 - So Gary loved the outdoors, 72 00:05:23,239 --> 00:05:26,951 I mean, he was the king of outdoors. 73 00:05:26,951 --> 00:05:27,994 Let's just say that. 74 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:31,372 And I think a lot of people were really envious of him. 75 00:05:31,372 --> 00:05:34,250 Like he lived this beautiful adventurous life, 76 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:39,005 that I think, those who have the nine to five job, 77 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:40,214 stuck behind a desk, 78 00:05:40,214 --> 00:05:44,052 I think, really admired that about him. 79 00:05:45,261 --> 00:05:48,765 - Super smart, but definitely private, 80 00:05:48,765 --> 00:05:51,184 he kind of just kept to himself. 81 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:56,189 If he wasn't in his room on his computer, 82 00:05:56,522 --> 00:05:59,317 then he was working on his model railroad. 83 00:06:01,527 --> 00:06:02,362 But other than that, 84 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:04,989 yeah, just really kept to himself in his room 85 00:06:04,989 --> 00:06:06,199 making his videos. 86 00:06:08,367 --> 00:06:09,952 Super funny, though (chuckles slightly) 87 00:06:09,952 --> 00:06:11,871 definitely could make you laugh 88 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:13,873 with a couple of his one liners. 89 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:17,043 (uplifting music) 90 00:06:17,502 --> 00:06:21,047 - I started to learn more about who Gary was. 91 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:21,881 And I found out 92 00:06:21,881 --> 00:06:25,134 that he was an extremely highly intelligent man. 93 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:28,513 He's one of those people that was so smart 94 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:32,391 that kind of had a hard time connecting with other people. 95 00:06:33,351 --> 00:06:37,522 So he mostly just kind of was more, solitude, 96 00:06:37,522 --> 00:06:41,776 and yeah, fascinating. 97 00:06:41,776 --> 00:06:43,152 The more I found out about him, 98 00:06:43,152 --> 00:06:48,157 the more I wanted to keep finding out about, who is Gary? 99 00:06:50,326 --> 00:06:52,328 (uplifting music) 100 00:07:03,297 --> 00:07:05,007 Gary had found his dream job, 101 00:07:05,007 --> 00:07:07,301 being such an avid outdoors man, 102 00:07:07,301 --> 00:07:11,806 he started to work for a startup company called Map Nevada. 103 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:13,808 Now what they do is, 104 00:07:13,808 --> 00:07:17,895 they map out really remote locations for hunters. 105 00:07:17,895 --> 00:07:22,900 So they track wildlife, weather, terrain, 106 00:07:23,025 --> 00:07:26,863 and I mean, Gary was in heaven doing this. 107 00:07:26,863 --> 00:07:31,868 - He loved to be by himself out in the wilderness, 108 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:36,539 he loved hiking, 109 00:07:36,539 --> 00:07:40,334 and being adventurous, 110 00:07:41,419 --> 00:07:46,424 any train, he was drawn to, he loved trains. 111 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:50,595 (ballast clattering) 112 00:07:50,595 --> 00:07:54,599 - [Gary] Hey guys filming another little YouTube video, 113 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:57,351 at one of my favorite places. 114 00:07:57,351 --> 00:08:01,606 If I had more time I would become one of the volunteers, 115 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:06,569 but this is the Nevada Northern Railway Museum, here in Ely. 116 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:09,530 And it's kind of an old little copper mine 117 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:11,824 just preserved and left. 118 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:13,075 They do some cool stuff, though, 119 00:08:13,075 --> 00:08:17,788 like you can sleep in this old caboose from Kennecott, 120 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:20,291 the big copper mine in the area, 121 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:21,959 right outside my home in Ruth. 122 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:25,630 It's kind of a neat little railroad museum, 123 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:27,673 they just kind of let you walk around. 124 00:08:29,717 --> 00:08:33,179 And you know how much I love trains on top of hiking, 125 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:34,639 gotta do something in the winter time 126 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:37,725 and you can't be outside as much. 127 00:08:37,725 --> 00:08:40,353 - So I was really excited to take on this story, 128 00:08:40,353 --> 00:08:42,313 seeing that it was my first story. 129 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:43,814 And it also took place 130 00:08:43,814 --> 00:08:46,234 in this tiny little town called Ruth. 131 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:49,153 And so I grabbed the phone book, and I just started calling. 132 00:08:49,153 --> 00:08:51,113 And I wanted to talk to anybody and everybody 133 00:08:51,113 --> 00:08:52,198 that would talk to me. 134 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:56,619 - I first knew something was off 135 00:08:56,619 --> 00:08:59,455 when he asked me to watch his dog Tuca 136 00:08:59,455 --> 00:09:02,708 before he went out on one of his trips. 137 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:05,044 And he never leaves Tuca. 138 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:07,213 He always takes the dog with him, 139 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:09,173 so I thought that was kind of weird. 140 00:09:09,173 --> 00:09:11,384 And he was acting super stressed out 141 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:14,178 even keeping to himself even more. 142 00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:17,974 When he didn't come back after two days, 143 00:09:19,517 --> 00:09:21,686 I thought that was really strange. 144 00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:23,062 I had a flight to catch, 145 00:09:23,062 --> 00:09:26,482 so I just called Beverly to get the dog. 146 00:09:26,482 --> 00:09:29,026 - After I got off the phone with Simon, 147 00:09:29,026 --> 00:09:32,196 I tried Gary, and there was no answer, 148 00:09:32,196 --> 00:09:36,284 so I hurried and left and I went to Ruth from Panaca. 149 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:40,329 And it's only a couple hours away, 150 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:42,206 so when I got there, 151 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:45,543 Simon and Tuca were waiting on the front steps. 152 00:09:45,543 --> 00:09:48,212 Simon really needed to get to the airport in Las Vegas, 153 00:09:48,212 --> 00:09:51,632 so I asked him where Gary had gone to, 154 00:09:53,217 --> 00:09:57,680 and Simon didn't know, his roommate didn't even know, 155 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,224 he just knew that he was on an expedition. 156 00:10:00,224 --> 00:10:01,559 To me that wasn't right, 157 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,769 so I tried Gary a couple of more times, 158 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:05,479 and all it did was go to voicemail 159 00:10:05,479 --> 00:10:10,067 and something was definitely wrong. 160 00:10:10,067 --> 00:10:12,820 And so I called the police and waited. 161 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:16,449 (mysterious music) 162 00:10:22,038 --> 00:10:23,748 - So I got Beverley's phone number, 163 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:26,667 and this is the only time that I ever talked to her. 164 00:10:26,667 --> 00:10:30,796 And she was pretty angry with me, 165 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:32,923 once I told her that I was a reporter. 166 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:36,469 And she did not want to have anything to do with me 167 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:39,347 or our show, which I thought was really unfortunate, 168 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:41,766 because, the news stations, 169 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:43,684 they had stopped recording on this, 170 00:10:43,684 --> 00:10:45,811 and we were the only ones doing anything, 171 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:48,272 and I thought this is a way to help find your brother, 172 00:10:48,272 --> 00:10:49,607 I don't understand why 173 00:10:49,607 --> 00:10:51,150 you don't want to give me the time or day, 174 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:53,569 but she didn't, and she quickly hung up. 175 00:10:53,569 --> 00:10:56,489 And that was the only time that I spoke to Beverly. 176 00:10:57,698 --> 00:11:01,869 - Gary became so obsessed with survivalism, 177 00:11:01,869 --> 00:11:04,830 he would watch the Discovery Channel, 178 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:07,708 he would watch YouTube, 179 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:12,213 he would study it and find the most remote places, 180 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:16,384 no cell service, no provisions of any kind 181 00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:18,511 other than what he took. 182 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:23,474 And it used to scare the heavens out of me. 183 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:26,185 I mean, I was petrified for him, 184 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:27,895 and I would worry so much. 185 00:11:27,895 --> 00:11:30,189 But after a while, 186 00:11:31,816 --> 00:11:33,025 it was Gary. 187 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:37,822 - [Gary] So guys, I'm here hiking around, 188 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:41,117 and this is one of the cool secrets 189 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:42,827 I have in the wilds in Nevada 190 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:47,790 is this cemetery from the late 1800s old mining camp, 191 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:54,422 but I won't disclose the name for safety reasons. 192 00:11:54,422 --> 00:11:56,132 Don't want anyone getting lost out here, 193 00:11:56,132 --> 00:12:01,137 but you can see all these old graves, wood stones, 194 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,974 unmarked graves with no names now. 195 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:08,352 Give you an idea of where I had to hike from 196 00:12:08,352 --> 00:12:11,689 is that mountain way over there 197 00:12:11,689 --> 00:12:14,942 is my truck's on the other side of it. 198 00:12:14,942 --> 00:12:17,695 So hiked over that mountain 199 00:12:17,695 --> 00:12:22,658 and I'm way out this way now, hiking around. 200 00:12:22,658 --> 00:12:27,663 - I wouldn't say what Gary was doing was hiking. 201 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:33,252 These were multiple day, like survival excursions. 202 00:12:35,296 --> 00:12:36,922 - In the beginning, what gave me hope 203 00:12:36,922 --> 00:12:41,927 was the fact that when Gary was much younger, 204 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:46,140 much, much younger, like second grade, 205 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:51,145 we all went camping, and Gary disappeared from the campsite. 206 00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:56,066 And we searched for him and searched for him, 207 00:12:56,066 --> 00:12:59,570 and we were all so worried, mom and dad were just terrified, 208 00:12:59,570 --> 00:13:01,530 I was terrified. 209 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:02,740 We didn't wanna leave the mountain 210 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,700 to go and get cell service or anything, 211 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:07,661 we just went looking for him. 212 00:13:07,661 --> 00:13:11,499 And we looked for him all night. 213 00:13:11,499 --> 00:13:16,462 And the next morning we came up to a sheep herders camp, 214 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,798 thinking, we're gonna tell them look, 215 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,925 keep an eye out for this second grader, 216 00:13:20,925 --> 00:13:25,304 this second grader that was missing 217 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:30,226 and we walk up and there is my little brother Gary, 218 00:13:31,268 --> 00:13:33,938 playing with the animals. 219 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:37,066 He'd known that if he got to the sheep herders camp, 220 00:13:37,066 --> 00:13:37,900 he would be okay, 221 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,528 that mom and dad would come and look for him. 222 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:45,533 And he was so resilient, it was in him, second nature. 223 00:13:47,868 --> 00:13:49,954 - So after speaking to a bunch of people in Ruth, 224 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:53,040 I started to learn a little bit more about Beverly 225 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,461 and Beverly's relationship with Gary in the past. 226 00:13:57,461 --> 00:14:01,423 So she had a lot of anger towards Gary. 227 00:14:02,591 --> 00:14:06,637 She really blamed him for their parents' death. 228 00:14:06,637 --> 00:14:09,348 And then when their parents did pass away, 229 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:12,059 she was stuck, still raising Gary 230 00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:16,188 and so she held quite a lot of resentment against him. 231 00:14:17,815 --> 00:14:21,110 - Well, I was mad at Gary when mom dad died, 232 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:24,321 they were out on a fishing trip 233 00:14:24,321 --> 00:14:27,449 and mom and dad liked to do some night fishing. 234 00:14:28,325 --> 00:14:32,288 And so they went out and did hang the lantern 235 00:14:32,288 --> 00:14:33,205 where they could see it, 236 00:14:33,205 --> 00:14:35,040 so they could get back to shore safely, 237 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,793 back to camp without hitting any rocks. 238 00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:39,795 Old Gary decided 239 00:14:39,795 --> 00:14:42,423 that he was gonna go hunting frogs and everything 240 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:45,426 and so, and he went exploring. 241 00:14:45,426 --> 00:14:48,721 And while he's out there he hung the lantern up, 242 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:51,265 so that he could see what he was doing. 243 00:14:51,265 --> 00:14:52,474 Meanwhile, mom and dad 244 00:14:52,474 --> 00:14:54,560 decided that they were gonna come back in 245 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,270 and call it a night. 246 00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:58,147 So they headed for the lantern. 247 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:04,236 Not knowing that Gary had moved it while he was exploring 248 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:08,073 and so they followed the light. 249 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:13,078 And, it was the wrong spot. 250 00:15:13,787 --> 00:15:18,500 They didn't make it back because they hit the rocks, 251 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:23,505 and had Gary not hang the lantern up where he was at 252 00:15:24,131 --> 00:15:26,258 and left it where it needed to be, 253 00:15:28,135 --> 00:15:30,054 there wouldn't have been any problems. 254 00:15:33,098 --> 00:15:38,103 - I just felt super bad for Beverly. 255 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:44,652 You know, I could just hear her 256 00:15:44,652 --> 00:15:48,030 inside Gary's room, sobbing. 257 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,786 - You know, you're really making me miss my brother, Gary. 258 00:15:55,913 --> 00:15:57,915 (sentimental music) 259 00:16:11,553 --> 00:16:14,807 - [Gal] Kept hearing people refer to Gary as a hiker. 260 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:18,560 And in my opinion, I don't really think that's correct. 261 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,147 Because, to me, Gary's more of a survivalist, 262 00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:27,152 he would go out into the wilderness for a week or two on end 263 00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:29,196 with just a backpack. 264 00:16:29,196 --> 00:16:32,574 He's kind of like the MacGyver of the wilderness, 265 00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:37,246 just to survive and live off of the land, 266 00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:39,748 and filter his on water. 267 00:16:39,748 --> 00:16:42,042 So, to hear them just be like, 268 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,336 oh, he's just a hiker gone missing. 269 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:45,462 He's not. 270 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:47,548 - When Gary and I first started living together, 271 00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:50,926 I actually went out with him on one of these things. 272 00:16:50,926 --> 00:16:55,764 And I just kept telling myself the entire time, never again. 273 00:16:56,807 --> 00:16:59,309 Gary wouldn't let us bring enough food or water, 274 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:02,521 and it was the most miserable experience. 275 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:04,982 The one thing I did like about it 276 00:17:04,982 --> 00:17:08,861 was we kept on finding these 1800's 277 00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:11,697 abandoned mining kind of structures, 278 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:12,740 which was super cool. 279 00:17:14,616 --> 00:17:18,037 - This wasn't a normal search and rescue. 280 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:23,041 Because, Gary didn't tell anybody where he was going 281 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,044 on his excursion. 282 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,838 And he would go really deep into the wilderness, 283 00:17:27,838 --> 00:17:31,300 and he'd be gone for a week or so, 284 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:35,929 so no one had any idea where to even start looking. 285 00:17:35,929 --> 00:17:40,517 And so police decided the best way, 286 00:17:40,517 --> 00:17:41,852 or the only thing they could think of 287 00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:44,938 was to maybe check his cell phone, 288 00:17:44,938 --> 00:17:48,317 and his cell phone pings in which tower. 289 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,612 And it looked to be as he had turned his cell phone off 290 00:17:51,612 --> 00:17:53,989 shortly after leaving his home. 291 00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:56,950 - When Beverly showed up to get the dog. 292 00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:02,122 Yeah, I regret that now, I kind of lashed out at her. 293 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,127 - I was so put off when I got to town, 294 00:18:07,127 --> 00:18:11,340 and he was so antsy to get out of there. 295 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:14,968 And, being my brother's roommate, 296 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:17,304 not even asking where he was gonna be, 297 00:18:17,304 --> 00:18:19,890 or, if there was gonna, 298 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:23,143 you know any issue that might set up a red flag 299 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:25,479 if he didn't come home. 300 00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:26,396 He had his dog and everything, 301 00:18:26,396 --> 00:18:28,941 and he knew he needed to be out of town. 302 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:33,070 I just didn't, 303 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:34,613 I didn't feel right about it, 304 00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:35,823 it just didn't feel right. 305 00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:39,201 And, a week or so before that, Gary had confided in me 306 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:42,287 that him and Simon weren't getting along very well, 307 00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:45,415 and so he wanted to move out. 308 00:18:45,415 --> 00:18:49,753 And so I just, 309 00:18:49,753 --> 00:18:53,632 it just didn't feel right, so I let the cops know. 310 00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:56,176 You know, I just don't trust him, 311 00:18:56,176 --> 00:19:00,681 there's just something to not be concerned at all, 312 00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:02,724 where your roommate's gonna be. 313 00:19:02,724 --> 00:19:07,187 And more worried about getting on a plane, 314 00:19:07,187 --> 00:19:11,358 than somebody missing that's supposed to be your friend, 315 00:19:11,358 --> 00:19:12,526 close to you? 316 00:19:13,902 --> 00:19:14,736 No. 317 00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:17,447 - We never talked about that, 318 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:19,616 he never told me where he went hiking, ever, 319 00:19:19,616 --> 00:19:21,160 he never mentioned it. 320 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,120 And even if we did talk about it, 321 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,374 I'm pretty sure he probably wouldn't have told me, so. 322 00:19:27,374 --> 00:19:29,668 But at the beginning, I understood 323 00:19:29,668 --> 00:19:31,587 she needed someone to point the finger at 324 00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:35,048 and she was super upset, understandably. 325 00:19:35,048 --> 00:19:39,344 But after some time, it just kind of got old, 326 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:43,557 so I called her and I now told her that, 327 00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:46,977 there's no way I would have known and just by the way, 328 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:49,563 you're his sister, so why didn't you know? 329 00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:53,442 - When I first reported Gary missing, 330 00:19:53,442 --> 00:19:55,485 the police were wonderful, 331 00:19:55,485 --> 00:20:00,115 they were really on top of it, they did an APB, 332 00:20:00,115 --> 00:20:03,160 be on the lookout for his truck, himself, 333 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:08,123 Park Rangers, Fish and Game, everything. 334 00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:09,541 You know, we live in a small town, 335 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:11,627 people don't go missing all the time. 336 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:14,004 And so this was a big deal, 337 00:20:14,004 --> 00:20:17,341 and they really took it seriously, 338 00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,343 they had it everywhere. 339 00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:23,055 I was embarrassed that I didn't know 340 00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:26,642 exactly where he was at, you know, I'm his sister, 341 00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:29,394 I should have known. 342 00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,483 I should have known. 343 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:40,739 (sentimental music) 344 00:20:58,048 --> 00:21:02,761 - [Simon] My first thought when I heard he was missing was, 345 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:08,976 oh, it'd be near impossible to find him. 346 00:21:10,852 --> 00:21:15,440 Either, he finally just injured himself, 347 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,402 or maybe he had eaten something 348 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:22,489 that he didn't know was gonna make him so sick. 349 00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:29,204 - It'd been two days since I'd reported the missing 350 00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:33,417 and I hadn't slept more than 10 to 15 minutes at a time. 351 00:21:35,168 --> 00:21:38,588 I had people calling and were so concerned 352 00:21:38,588 --> 00:21:41,091 and wanted to know where to start looking for him. 353 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,219 But not knowing where he was at, 354 00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:46,221 where would I have them look? 355 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:52,352 And then the phone call came, they'd found Gary's truck. 356 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,522 (ominous music) 357 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:17,461 (thunder roaring) 358 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,927 And I got such a sinking feeling, 359 00:22:25,927 --> 00:22:28,263 such a sick to my stomach feeling 360 00:22:28,263 --> 00:22:32,642 that this was now very real. 361 00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:35,312 (thunder roars) 362 00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:41,943 After the cops called in, 363 00:22:42,819 --> 00:22:44,154 and let me know that they'd found this truck, 364 00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:47,115 they came and picked me up and took me to it. 365 00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:50,535 It was about 55 miles out of town, 366 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:53,914 and we got there and seeing his truck, 367 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,293 I was so hopeful, you know, thinking, 368 00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:01,963 he probably fell, 369 00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:04,466 maybe broke an ankle, stuck in a ravine, 370 00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:05,717 can't get himself out. 371 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,720 But I had hope. 372 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,225 I really had hope that we were gonna find him okay. 373 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:16,561 - It just wasn't in a place where Gary would have left it. 374 00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:19,564 Like it wasn't in a spot where he wanted, 375 00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,733 which he would wanna go to explore. 376 00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:25,737 - While I was sitting there, 377 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:28,949 watching them process Gary's truck, I was looking around, 378 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,788 this wasn't Gary, 379 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:40,710 he loved to explore vast forests, rocky hills, 380 00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:48,093 beauty, not just a rolling hill of dirt. 381 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:53,682 It just, something wasn't right. 382 00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:56,434 (gunshot blasts) 383 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:04,901 (gunshot blasts) 384 00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:09,823 (car engine roaring) 385 00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:11,825 - I'm a private investigator. 386 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:15,579 I was hired by Beverly shortly after Gary's truck was found. 387 00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:20,417 The High Desert as you can see, 388 00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:26,548 it's very beautiful, 389 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:31,553 it's very majestic, has mountains, valleys, plains, forests, 390 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:34,055 it has it all. 391 00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:37,559 But it's also quite dangerous and very unforgiving. 392 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,145 - So after Gary's truck was found, 393 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,317 a search began and people really rallied. 394 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:47,861 (upbeat music) 395 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:49,738 - [Bill] Gary went missing 396 00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:52,240 in the hottest part of the summer. 397 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,952 And what we see most of the time in disappearance like his 398 00:24:55,952 --> 00:25:00,790 is people suffering from heatstroke, 399 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:04,336 dehydration, sometimes even injury. 400 00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:08,298 - [Beverly] People started showing up 401 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,176 and then more people started showing up, 402 00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,262 and next thing I know, it's a whole whirlwind, 403 00:25:14,262 --> 00:25:18,892 there were people there that I didn't know, 404 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:22,020 that Gary didn't know, 405 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,940 there were people bringing drones, 406 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:26,691 all kinds of search and rescue. 407 00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:30,028 It was the most humbling experience 408 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:35,033 to know that these strangers were out there helping 409 00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:39,204 to try to find my brother and bring him home. 410 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:42,958 (intense music) 411 00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:55,845 - So once Gary's truck was found, Beverly was, 412 00:25:57,264 --> 00:25:59,057 let's just say she was very vocal 413 00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:02,560 about how the truck seemed to be parked 414 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,271 in a suspicious location, 415 00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:05,605 like she was just convinced 416 00:26:05,605 --> 00:26:08,191 that her brother had not parked it there, 417 00:26:08,191 --> 00:26:09,985 her brother wouldn't park it there, 418 00:26:09,985 --> 00:26:12,779 and she would not stop talking about it. 419 00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:17,951 So the cops eventually looked into this. 420 00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,661 - The clock was ticking. 421 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:22,956 They very much needed to find Gary as soon as possible. 422 00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:27,877 Beverly, on the other hand, was very much in their way. 423 00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:32,882 She was in the way, and she was really messing things up. 424 00:26:33,508 --> 00:26:36,094 - Searching the high desert isn't easy, 425 00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:37,429 I mean, it's not an easy task. 426 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:38,346 People think it is, 427 00:26:38,346 --> 00:26:40,932 people think you can just get up in the air in a helicopter 428 00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:45,937 and fly around and look at the ground and see someone, 429 00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:51,151 but once you're on the ground, there's abandoned mines, 430 00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,653 there's bushes and tree cover. 431 00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:56,239 And it's super difficult. 432 00:26:56,239 --> 00:27:00,118 So finding someone, it's not easy as people think it is. 433 00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:03,246 - [Gary] Oh my god, sheep. 434 00:27:03,246 --> 00:27:04,080 (sheep bleating) 435 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,624 Hi sheep. 436 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:06,708 Look at all the sheep. 437 00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:09,377 Sheep are a lot nicer than people. 438 00:27:10,962 --> 00:27:11,796 (sheep bleating) 439 00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,131 (feet rustling) 440 00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:14,090 Hey little sheep, 441 00:27:15,675 --> 00:27:16,718 look at all you guys. 442 00:27:17,886 --> 00:27:19,846 (sheep bleating) 443 00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:23,933 Roaming the land, doing what you need to do. 444 00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,770 (ground rustling) 445 00:27:28,605 --> 00:27:30,690 Jeez, they all ran away from me. 446 00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:32,484 Can't even make friends with sheep. 447 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:35,904 (sheep bleating) 448 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:40,200 - The officers didn't want me to participate in the search. 449 00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:46,915 They thought it was best that I stay home at Gary's place 450 00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:51,920 in case he tried to contact me, call or show up. 451 00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:56,174 - I was very much familiar with the lead investigator. 452 00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:57,967 We had worked together before, 453 00:27:57,967 --> 00:28:00,387 and we were definitely familiar with each other. 454 00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:04,140 I called him to kind of check up on things 455 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:08,019 and see where the investigation was headed, 456 00:28:08,019 --> 00:28:10,772 and if they had any new information. 457 00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:13,733 He told me that they had made a discovery in the truck. 458 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,236 (ominous music) 459 00:28:23,827 --> 00:28:27,330 But since I was not formally hired by Beverley, 460 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,041 I had to contact her first 461 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,544 before they would discuss the matter with me. 462 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:38,383 - I was hopeful that they had good news, 463 00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:45,348 that the officer asked me if Gary had any enemies, 464 00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:50,019 or if I knew anybody that may wanna hurt him. 465 00:28:52,605 --> 00:28:54,649 I asked the officer why, 466 00:28:56,192 --> 00:28:57,152 why would he, 467 00:28:58,027 --> 00:28:59,237 why would he ask that. 468 00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:04,242 And in confidence, they told me that they had evidence 469 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,709 that Gary did not drive his truck out there. 470 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,588 (droning music) 471 00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:28,683 - So I waited a couple of hours 472 00:29:28,683 --> 00:29:31,728 and went over to Gary's house where Beverly was staying, 473 00:29:31,728 --> 00:29:34,606 and she was absolutely hysterical. 474 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:37,400 She told me that the police had informed her 475 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,988 that in Gary's truck they had discovered prints 476 00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:47,869 on top of Gary's all over, on top of the steering wheel, 477 00:29:47,994 --> 00:29:50,705 the dashboard, the gear 478 00:29:50,705 --> 00:29:55,710 and what was most surprising or alarming 479 00:29:56,002 --> 00:30:01,007 was that they discovered footprints, bare footprints, 480 00:30:01,674 --> 00:30:06,679 and they were scarred and unidentifiable, 481 00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:10,517 which even added more to the mystery. 482 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,187 (mystery music) 483 00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:19,776 - The footprint was, 484 00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:26,491 he said that it was barefoot. 485 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:40,088 - So someone drove Gary's truck barefoot. 486 00:30:41,631 --> 00:30:44,133 And it just doesn't sit well with me, 487 00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:46,553 because it's like, what happened? 488 00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:49,138 Why was this person not wearing shoes? 489 00:30:50,723 --> 00:30:51,933 What was going on? 490 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:54,060 Like, it's just odd, 491 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,396 and it's very, 492 00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:59,190 I don't know, it's just, 493 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,943 it made my skin crawl. 494 00:31:01,943 --> 00:31:03,820 (feet rustling) 495 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:06,281 - [Gary] Oh, look at the little baby deer. 496 00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:09,158 That's kind of cool to see, you don't see that too often. 497 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,966 (train engine roaring) 498 00:31:30,054 --> 00:31:33,141 (train hooting) 499 00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:36,394 (train engine roaring) 500 00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:46,362 - You know, I hadn't been sleeping and everything, 501 00:31:46,362 --> 00:31:49,157 and my mind was just reeling, 502 00:31:50,658 --> 00:31:52,327 I had a lot of things going through my head, 503 00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:53,745 different scenarios. 504 00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:57,123 Maybe he picked up a friend? 505 00:31:58,916 --> 00:32:02,170 Maybe somebody stole his truck while he was out hiking? 506 00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:06,633 Or maybe he picked up a hitchhiker, 507 00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:11,638 and the hitchhiker had done something to him. 508 00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:17,477 I don't know, at this point, 509 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,063 so many things were just going through my head, 510 00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:24,192 just over and over again, 511 00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:28,780 which didn't help me try to get any sleep. 512 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:33,785 (train engine roaring) (train hooting) 513 00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:43,419 - So Beverly, still wanted me to vet out Simon 514 00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:47,298 because she still thought he was very suspicious. 515 00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,508 And I did too. 516 00:32:48,508 --> 00:32:49,550 I looked into him again, 517 00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:54,138 and lo and behold, he was ruled out as a suspect. 518 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:57,225 But through that process, 519 00:32:57,225 --> 00:33:01,062 I actually learned that Gary had been talking 520 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,898 to someone that he met on a Facebook Messenger group. 521 00:33:05,191 --> 00:33:07,402 They had been corresponding with each other 522 00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:09,946 through a local sellers group, 523 00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,324 and I guess they had been commenting on each other's posts 524 00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:14,492 and one thing led to another 525 00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:18,204 and they became more than friends. 526 00:33:19,288 --> 00:33:24,252 When I confronted this person, he was very much terrified, 527 00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:25,712 didn't wanna talk to me, 528 00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,088 didn't wanna have anything to do with me 529 00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:28,089 or the investigation. 530 00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:29,841 And I told him, if you don't talk to me, 531 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,467 you're gonna have to talk to the cops, 532 00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,469 and they're gonna really bust your ass. 533 00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:35,304 And I think he was terrified 534 00:33:35,304 --> 00:33:37,015 of being outed in this community, 535 00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:42,937 because it's such a small town, not a lot of gay people. 536 00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:46,858 And so he did talk to me, he told me that, 537 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:49,986 he didn't have anything to do with Gary's disappearance. 538 00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:54,532 He was sad and upset that Gary had disappeared, 539 00:33:54,532 --> 00:33:57,076 he didn't know what happened to him. 540 00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,536 I guess I did believe him. 541 00:33:59,746 --> 00:34:01,581 He really didn't wanna discuss it, 542 00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:04,375 but ultimately, when I did check out his alibi, 543 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:07,211 he was cleared as a suspect. 544 00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:08,504 (sheep bleating) 545 00:34:08,504 --> 00:34:11,340 (ground rustling) 546 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:15,636 - Hey guys, now that I'm done chasing sheep around 547 00:34:15,636 --> 00:34:17,722 like a crazy person in the mountains. 548 00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,225 I've seen a lot out here, mining camps, 549 00:34:21,225 --> 00:34:26,230 mines, abandoned towns, buildings, remnants of the past, 550 00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,233 but the coolest and my favorite personally, 551 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,736 is all the Native American remnants, 552 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,404 I love finding arrowheads 553 00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:36,741 and seeing petroglyphs on mountain sides. 554 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:39,535 Just old writing from the native people 555 00:34:39,535 --> 00:34:43,122 who lived here long before any settlers moved in. 556 00:34:43,122 --> 00:34:45,249 To me, that's the coolest stuff to see. 557 00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:47,502 But it's getting dark now, the sun's setting 558 00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:50,421 I think I'm gonna call it a night and get settled in, 559 00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:51,380 in my camp. 560 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:53,257 (ground rustling) 561 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:56,636 - They were still processing the crime scene and everything 562 00:34:56,636 --> 00:35:01,641 and they came across an envelope in his center console, 563 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,769 it had a (muffled speaking) money in it. 564 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:10,942 To me that said that whoever he was with, 565 00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:15,154 wasn't there to take his money 566 00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,782 or anything that he might have had. 567 00:35:21,244 --> 00:35:23,246 (sentimental music) 568 00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:39,846 I woke to the police officers knocking on my door. 569 00:35:43,891 --> 00:35:46,978 And they were informing me that they called off the search. 570 00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,690 And while they're explaining things to me, 571 00:35:52,024 --> 00:35:53,401 I'm seeing them talking, 572 00:35:56,362 --> 00:35:58,155 I'm not comprehending any of the it, 573 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,286 everything was just kind of flashing. 574 00:36:03,286 --> 00:36:07,874 And, I'm seeing their faces, and I'm seeing their lips move, 575 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,751 and then they're looking at me like I'm crazy. 576 00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:15,631 And next thing I know, I'm on a stretcher. 577 00:36:15,631 --> 00:36:20,595 (heart throbbing) (beep sounds) 578 00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:27,977 And taken to the ER where they had to give me hydration 579 00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:34,233 and IV with fluids and medicine that helped me sleep, 580 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,781 and for the first time since all of this started, 581 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:43,784 I got 10 hours of sleep. 582 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:47,455 - This was the largest search and rescue 583 00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:49,582 that Nevada had ever seen. 584 00:36:49,582 --> 00:36:53,586 And when they finally called it off, 585 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:55,963 everyone was just so shocked. 586 00:36:55,963 --> 00:36:59,842 But, you mean, you can't search the entire state of Nevada, 587 00:36:59,842 --> 00:37:02,178 it's just too vast, it's too broad, 588 00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:07,141 and it had been so long that the chances of finding him 589 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:11,270 and finding him alive were slim to none. 590 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:13,564 - The investigation was dead in the water, 591 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:15,566 we didn't have any leads, 592 00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:18,569 the fingerprints in the truck didn't match any database, 593 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,821 so we didn't know what to do. 594 00:37:20,821 --> 00:37:21,656 But then. 595 00:37:22,698 --> 00:37:24,700 (intense music) 596 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:30,665 Gary's followers started calling. 597 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,297 And this whole thing was turned on its head. 598 00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:42,051 - So I'm at my desk, 599 00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:44,136 and I'm going through the show notes, 600 00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:45,471 I'm getting ready to go on air 601 00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:47,598 and my producer comes through my door, and he's like, 602 00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:50,935 you have a phone call, you have to take this phone call. 603 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:54,772 And I get on the phone, and it's one of our listeners. 604 00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:59,318 And he's telling me that I have to look into Gary's blog. 605 00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:03,781 He's going on and on about this crazy story about Gary, 606 00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:08,035 and he's telling me that he thinks he knows where he is, 607 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:11,247 he thinks he knows what happened to him. 608 00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:15,710 And that I have to go and look at this blog right now. 609 00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,337 - My friend Monica calls me 610 00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:21,507 and tells me that it's all over the news 611 00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:26,512 that all these people are calling into the radio station. 612 00:38:26,887 --> 00:38:31,100 And she tells me that they're talking about Gary's blog 613 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,978 and the fact that it needs to be read 614 00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:35,938 and that there's comments and everything. 615 00:38:35,938 --> 00:38:40,151 And so once I got discharged, 616 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,652 I went straight to Gary's house, 617 00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:45,156 so I could read the blog and see what all this was 618 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,158 that they were talking about. 619 00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,702 - Unfortunately, Beverly found out about Gary's blog 620 00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:53,247 hours before we did, and she went right over there, 621 00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:55,416 and really messed things up. 622 00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,960 - Hey guys, it's me again. 623 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,795 A lot of people have been following the blog 624 00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:01,672 and new to the blog and been saying, 625 00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:04,759 I'm just trying to copy "Naked and Afraid". 626 00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:08,346 And as you can tell, I'm not naked or afraid out here, 627 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,514 so I'm not trying to copy the show and, 628 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,852 also my ex loved that show, so I'm sick of it, 629 00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:17,646 there's a reason why people are called exes. 630 00:39:17,646 --> 00:39:20,358 - So while I'm trying to navigate through everything 631 00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:22,401 on his blog, 632 00:39:22,401 --> 00:39:24,779 going through the operator stuff and everything 633 00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:31,160 and I finally get in there and I realize he has 50,000, 634 00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:34,371 50,000 viewers. 635 00:39:37,124 --> 00:39:39,043 I was shocked. 636 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,630 - Not a single person in Gary's life knew about his blog, 637 00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,048 which was really shocking 638 00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:47,009 considering the fact that he had 50,000 followers. 639 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,430 That really says something, if you think about it. 640 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,313 - Of course, I immediately jump on my computer 641 00:39:59,313 --> 00:40:03,818 and I go to his blog, and I'll never forget the title, 642 00:40:03,818 --> 00:40:05,653 because I actually thought it was really clever. 643 00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:09,281 It was called "Don't Hike With Headphones". 644 00:40:09,281 --> 00:40:11,325 - Hey guys up here at the top of the mountain, 645 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:15,371 as you can see, there's the great view behind me. 646 00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:19,959 One of the questions I've got asked on the blog a lot was, 647 00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:21,919 what dangers (muffled speaking), 648 00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:24,004 are there any threatening animals 649 00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:25,840 like rattlesnakes and mountain lions? 650 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,635 And, yeah, there're rattlesnakes at the lower elevations, 651 00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,887 you might have noticed I don't hike with headphones 652 00:40:31,887 --> 00:40:34,431 or anything on so I can listen for them. 653 00:40:34,431 --> 00:40:37,852 - And it's your basic, survivalist type blog, 654 00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:41,230 you know, how to build a fire, how to filter water, 655 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,107 and I just start scrolling through 656 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,067 and I scroll and scroll all the way to the, 657 00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:47,862 like the latest videos that he had posted. 658 00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,405 - I'm trying to navigate 659 00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:52,616 to find out where these notifications are coming from 660 00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:56,078 because he is getting notification after notification, 661 00:40:56,078 --> 00:40:59,540 I mean, it's ding, ding, ding, ding. 662 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:02,835 - So I was driving when I found out Gary had a blog, 663 00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:06,797 I pulled over and looked for it on my phone. 664 00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:09,008 And the first thing that I noticed 665 00:41:09,008 --> 00:41:10,801 was that he didn't go by his real name, 666 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:13,262 he went by Scorpion Sam. 667 00:41:13,262 --> 00:41:15,514 - My biggest thing I've ever ran into 668 00:41:15,514 --> 00:41:18,100 was I got stung by a scorpion, 669 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,603 kicking over a rock once, 670 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:25,191 had to go to the hospital once I got back to my truck, 671 00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:27,776 that was the day I hiked with a swelling up hand. 672 00:41:29,403 --> 00:41:32,156 - I'm finally able to get to the notifications 673 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:34,408 and this notification pops up 674 00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:37,870 and they're saying, I bet he found it, 675 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,625 and that something bad happened, 676 00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:47,630 and I'm thinking, they're saying he found it? 677 00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:50,007 And something bad happened? 678 00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:51,383 Found what? 679 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:55,846 - And then came Gary's now infamous video post. 680 00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,309 I have worked a lot of strange cases in my career, 681 00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:05,022 and Gary's by far was the most unusual, 682 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,859 just the way that he described what he was looking at, 683 00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:12,988 what he saw, how terrified he was, 684 00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:17,993 it just really scares me. 685 00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:24,667 - So I started watching the second to last video 686 00:42:24,667 --> 00:42:25,918 on Gary's blog. 687 00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:28,671 And he's at his home and he's sitting there 688 00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:31,090 and he's telling his viewers 689 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:37,304 basically what he came across on his last expedition. 690 00:42:37,304 --> 00:42:39,974 - I saw his last three videos 691 00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:40,849 and, 692 00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:44,812 what I saw, 693 00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,568 changed everything. 694 00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:54,238 (ominous music) 695 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:03,372 - He's pretty worked up in this video, 696 00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:06,542 you can tell he's nervous, he's scared. 697 00:43:06,542 --> 00:43:08,711 - As soon as his video started, 698 00:43:11,171 --> 00:43:15,884 I could tell he was troubled by something, 699 00:43:15,884 --> 00:43:18,470 something had him so unnerved. 700 00:43:19,847 --> 00:43:22,850 He was three days into his expedition, 701 00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:27,271 and he started to smell smoke and that, 702 00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:29,356 and he was out in the middle of nowhere. 703 00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:34,278 So he got curious and started to look around. 704 00:43:35,154 --> 00:43:36,989 - He comes across this cabin, 705 00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,951 and it's not like a nice cabin, it's like a makeshift cabin, 706 00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:45,956 almost kind of like a homeless type of structure, 707 00:43:46,165 --> 00:43:47,499 sticks and twigs, 708 00:43:47,499 --> 00:43:50,878 and there's smoke coming out of the chimney. 709 00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:56,759 And Gary's not someone to be scared of someone else, 710 00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:57,760 out in the wilderness, 711 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,765 but he said he was just like frozen in his tracks, 712 00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:06,977 and he just felt this like sixth sense 713 00:44:06,977 --> 00:44:10,105 of basically impending doom. 714 00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:15,819 - It was the look on his face, that really got to me, 715 00:44:15,819 --> 00:44:19,114 when he described this cabin out in Nevada. 716 00:44:21,742 --> 00:44:25,329 - He said that the longer he stood and looked at it 717 00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:31,627 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 718 00:44:31,627 --> 00:44:34,963 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 719 00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:38,842 - And he wanted nothing to do with that place. 720 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:42,346 And so, he hightails it out of there 721 00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:46,517 and he goes to sleep in his tent, 722 00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:51,105 I remember this because he talks about how he was so scared, 723 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:54,024 he slept with his shoes on all night. 724 00:44:54,024 --> 00:44:55,567 You know, he didn't bring his firearms, 725 00:44:55,567 --> 00:45:00,572 so he was totally just vulnerable out there and terrified. 726 00:45:02,783 --> 00:45:07,788 And he wakes up the next morning, and there's footprints, 727 00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:11,250 and they're barefoot footprints. 728 00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,460 - These two things are now connected, 729 00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:14,753 we had something to go on. 730 00:45:16,338 --> 00:45:18,340 (ominous music) 731 00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,890 - [Beverly] The hike back to his track, 732 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,767 which took three days, 733 00:45:28,767 --> 00:45:32,187 he felt like somebody was following him. 734 00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:34,565 (ominous music) 735 00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:38,986 - So this was a really sad story to me, 736 00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:42,156 to see Gary's followers turn on him, 737 00:45:42,156 --> 00:45:44,908 that blog was everything to him. 738 00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:49,913 He really admired them, and their comments, 739 00:45:52,499 --> 00:45:54,835 it was something really special to him. 740 00:45:54,835 --> 00:45:59,840 And to see them go from loving him to bullying him, 741 00:46:00,507 --> 00:46:03,635 calling him a loser, a liar, 742 00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:07,556 and putting him down, it was really sad to see. 743 00:46:09,892 --> 00:46:12,227 - And the comments are like, 744 00:46:12,227 --> 00:46:15,898 everyone's kind of just like, well, go back, 745 00:46:16,732 --> 00:46:18,400 take video, show us this place, 746 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,195 does this place even exist, is this even real? 747 00:46:21,195 --> 00:46:23,822 And he's getting like really hit by his followers, 748 00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,784 basically, they're kind of bullying him, 749 00:46:27,659 --> 00:46:30,329 they don't believe that he came across this, 750 00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:33,832 they go to his blog for a reason, 751 00:46:33,832 --> 00:46:35,667 and now they feel like he's just 752 00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:38,587 getting into ghost stories or something. 753 00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:39,421 And so they, 754 00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:45,260 I really feel like he fell into a bit of cyber bullying 755 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:50,140 and the fact that they were not gonna be 756 00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:51,850 his faithful followers anymore, 757 00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:56,480 unless he goes back and proves that he saw this, 758 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,398 he experienced this. 759 00:46:58,398 --> 00:47:01,068 (air whooshing) 760 00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:07,616 - You know, it broke my heart to read the comments 761 00:47:07,616 --> 00:47:12,621 that said that he was nothing but a lonely loser, 762 00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:16,416 and that all he was doing 763 00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:20,712 was trying to get attention by making shit up 764 00:47:20,712 --> 00:47:23,799 and that they didn't believe him. 765 00:47:25,592 --> 00:47:27,761 - I actually didn't know about the blog, 766 00:47:28,595 --> 00:47:31,348 but I knew he was doing something 767 00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:36,228 because he was always in the backyard making videos, 768 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,438 telling the camera how to make a campfire, 769 00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:41,608 or I always heard him in his room 770 00:47:41,608 --> 00:47:43,694 like giving survival tips and things. 771 00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:47,239 - [Gary] Hey, guys, just walking through the woods here. 772 00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:50,742 It's a beautiful day in the backwoods in Nevada. 773 00:47:50,742 --> 00:47:52,661 But a lot of people asked what I would do 774 00:47:52,661 --> 00:47:54,079 if I got lost back here, 775 00:47:55,247 --> 00:47:59,501 I had to spends several more days than I planned on, 776 00:47:59,501 --> 00:48:00,836 I guess first thing I would do 777 00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:04,673 would be find a nice nutritious cow patty, 778 00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:07,759 because there're so yummy. 779 00:48:07,759 --> 00:48:11,054 I'm just kidding, you don't wanna eat cow shit. 780 00:48:11,054 --> 00:48:11,972 That will be bad. 781 00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:15,893 But there are ways you can scavenger for food out here. 782 00:48:17,311 --> 00:48:20,272 (train engine roaring) 783 00:48:20,272 --> 00:48:23,483 (train hooting) 784 00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:26,194 - I'm so upset by everything and, 785 00:48:27,112 --> 00:48:31,783 I wanted to download this 786 00:48:31,783 --> 00:48:35,495 and do what I could so that I could take it to the cops, 787 00:48:35,495 --> 00:48:40,500 and during all the frustration and the upset and everything, 788 00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:45,005 I accidentally deleted it. 789 00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:51,011 - Beverly really beat herself up about deleting the video, 790 00:48:51,011 --> 00:48:53,972 and I felt bad for her. 791 00:48:53,972 --> 00:48:57,684 I didn't wanna press it because I knew she felt terrible, 792 00:48:57,684 --> 00:48:59,936 her brother was missing. 793 00:48:59,936 --> 00:49:04,149 But it was a missed opportunity definitely, 794 00:49:04,149 --> 00:49:05,817 and a definite disappointment. 795 00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:11,782 - The last video of Gary on that blog, 796 00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:16,578 is him basically telling his followers, 797 00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:19,915 okay, here I go, I'll go back. 798 00:49:20,916 --> 00:49:22,584 And he doesn't look okay about it. 799 00:49:23,543 --> 00:49:27,965 - Gary's final video is truly haunting. 800 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:32,427 And it is really the beginning of a bigger mystery. 801 00:49:35,263 --> 00:49:39,726 - Gary's last video that he posted to his blog 802 00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:43,730 said that he was gonna go back out 803 00:49:46,316 --> 00:49:50,946 and record everything and prove to everyone 804 00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:55,158 that this was real, that this really existed. 805 00:50:00,914 --> 00:50:04,960 It's the last time that he ever posted anything 806 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,586 or anybody heard from him. 807 00:50:08,213 --> 00:50:10,215 (ominous music) 808 00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:20,809 (air whooshing) 809 00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:31,570 - Hey guys, I'm back. 810 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:32,612 Wanted to make a video 811 00:50:32,612 --> 00:50:35,991 about the different comments people left on my last video. 812 00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:40,954 A lot of you were coming up with some crazy theories, 813 00:50:40,954 --> 00:50:44,291 what was out there, what I saw in the woods. 814 00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,461 Some of you don't believe it, 815 00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,337 some of you are asking for the location 816 00:50:49,337 --> 00:50:52,048 and wanna find it yourself. 817 00:50:52,048 --> 00:50:53,759 I'm really against people going out 818 00:50:53,759 --> 00:50:57,012 in the backwoods in Nevada without experience, 819 00:50:57,012 --> 00:50:58,722 there's a lot dangers out there, 820 00:50:58,722 --> 00:51:02,184 from old mines to just random people 821 00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:04,436 and you can get lost easily, 822 00:51:04,436 --> 00:51:06,730 the scenery looks a lot the same, 823 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:08,774 and if there's no trails, 824 00:51:08,774 --> 00:51:12,277 you can get lost and turn around and be out there for days. 825 00:51:12,277 --> 00:51:14,446 And if you don't bring enough food or water, 826 00:51:14,446 --> 00:51:15,530 you're in real danger. 827 00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:19,117 So I don't wanna give out the location 828 00:51:19,117 --> 00:51:23,079 and just be the one that causes a whole bunch of people 829 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,040 to go out in the backwoods in Nevada. 830 00:51:26,124 --> 00:51:29,169 I'll go out there, find the shelter again. 831 00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:32,130 This time, I'll bring my camera and firearm, 832 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:33,840 I have to do some work first, 833 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,551 but I plan on leaving on the 22nd, 834 00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:39,387 and I'll need a good six days to be out there again. 835 00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:43,266 It's a good three days in, and three days back, 836 00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:45,685 but we're gonna find out what this is, 837 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:49,564 and look forward to another video, 838 00:51:49,564 --> 00:51:51,233 once we finally get out there, 839 00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:54,277 I'll have something for you guys posted. 840 00:51:58,657 --> 00:52:00,659 (ominous music) 841 00:52:01,326 --> 00:52:03,245 - He goes and that's it. 842 00:52:03,245 --> 00:52:04,538 And that's the last, 843 00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:08,041 that's the last video of Gary. 844 00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,545 And no one knows where he was going. 845 00:52:12,754 --> 00:52:17,175 So the search is so vast and Nevada is huge, 846 00:52:17,175 --> 00:52:20,428 and he could be anywhere. 847 00:52:21,721 --> 00:52:23,723 (ominous music) 848 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:37,279 This place that he talks about could be anywhere. 849 00:52:41,867 --> 00:52:43,285 - This became a perfect storm 850 00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:46,872 because now we knew what Gary was doing, 851 00:52:46,872 --> 00:52:48,623 we just had no idea where. 852 00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:54,880 - I had no idea that he had this whole other life, 853 00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:57,966 this blog, all these followers and everything 854 00:52:57,966 --> 00:52:59,175 had I known that, 855 00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:04,598 I would have never, ever, let him go back out there. 856 00:53:05,891 --> 00:53:09,019 - This whole case turned from a missing persons 857 00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:12,898 to a huge mystery. 858 00:53:12,898 --> 00:53:14,399 Whose cabin was this? 859 00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:16,234 I mean, who lives out there? 860 00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:17,402 Where is this cabin? 861 00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:19,905 I mean, if it's in the middle of nowhere, 862 00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:23,325 what type of person lives in the middle of nowhere? 863 00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:27,245 And if you're about to go find that person, 864 00:53:27,245 --> 00:53:29,706 I don't know if they're gonna be too happy to be found. 865 00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:32,167 I mean, if they're out there that far, 866 00:53:32,167 --> 00:53:34,169 they're out there that far for a reason. 867 00:53:34,878 --> 00:53:36,880 (ominous music) 868 00:53:40,425 --> 00:53:43,845 - Once the radio station broadcasts about it, 869 00:53:43,845 --> 00:53:45,680 his blog and everything, 870 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,933 everybody just went crazy 871 00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:50,268 before the cops could even take it down. 872 00:53:50,268 --> 00:53:55,273 The conspiracy theories were just everywhere, 873 00:53:55,482 --> 00:54:00,487 from witches to aliens, area 51, you name it. 874 00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:04,449 - People started coming out of the woodwork 875 00:54:04,449 --> 00:54:06,451 and everyone had a theory 876 00:54:06,451 --> 00:54:11,456 as to who the cabin belonged to, what was in the cabin. 877 00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:16,962 There were some comments about Gary had discovered a witch, 878 00:54:16,962 --> 00:54:19,673 and she was making secret potions 879 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,050 and somehow he had gotten involved, 880 00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:26,221 and I mean it was crazy. 881 00:54:26,221 --> 00:54:28,056 Other people thought it was just a hermit, 882 00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:30,558 you know someone who just wanted to be left alone. 883 00:54:32,268 --> 00:54:34,688 People thought that maybe it was a government, 884 00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:39,109 secret government operation, aliens. 885 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:42,737 I mean it's, 886 00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:44,948 I could go on and on 887 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:47,534 about the many theories that people thought. 888 00:54:47,534 --> 00:54:49,953 - The only reasonable explanation I could come up with 889 00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:52,998 was maybe, Gary had stumbled upon 890 00:54:52,998 --> 00:54:56,084 an illegal marijuana growing operation 891 00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:58,295 out there in the middle of nowhere in Nevada 892 00:54:59,254 --> 00:55:03,049 and they killed him for it, it has happened before. 893 00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:05,135 But, 894 00:55:07,721 --> 00:55:08,805 I was wrong. 895 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:17,856 - I just couldn't shake this sickening feeling. 896 00:55:19,399 --> 00:55:21,401 (ominous music) 897 00:55:28,408 --> 00:55:30,243 Before I knew it, the cops showed up 898 00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:32,620 and they had known all about his blog 899 00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:36,082 and I was actually on the computer when they got there. 900 00:55:36,082 --> 00:55:40,628 And they gathered everything up, seized everything, 901 00:55:40,628 --> 00:55:43,048 including his hard drives. 902 00:55:43,048 --> 00:55:44,674 - [Gary] Guys, 903 00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:46,134 another model train video here, 904 00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:48,762 I just got back from a flea market, 905 00:55:48,762 --> 00:55:51,097 and look what I picked up today. 906 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,479 Got a nice little HO diesel locomotive, 907 00:55:57,479 --> 00:55:59,564 lettered for one of my favorite railroads, 908 00:55:59,564 --> 00:56:01,649 it's called the California Western, 909 00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:04,736 out of Northern California. 910 00:56:04,736 --> 00:56:07,739 (plastic train rattling) 911 00:56:07,739 --> 00:56:09,949 Set that down. 912 00:56:09,949 --> 00:56:14,954 Then got this brand new steam engine for the Santa Fe. 913 00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:17,874 (ominous music) 914 00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:27,675 - My private investigator called and said that, 915 00:56:27,675 --> 00:56:32,680 the detectives on the case wanted to meet with me. 916 00:56:32,722 --> 00:56:36,601 So I ended up going down to the precinct and, 917 00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,607 they kept asking me, is there anything you need? 918 00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:44,192 Have you eaten today? 919 00:56:45,318 --> 00:56:47,737 Just beating around the bush 920 00:56:47,737 --> 00:56:52,742 and I finally asked them, what is going on? 921 00:56:54,577 --> 00:56:55,411 - [Man] It's back on. 922 00:56:55,411 --> 00:56:58,248 (dramatic chase music) 923 00:56:58,248 --> 00:57:00,083 - We are back with a break in the case 924 00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:02,252 of missing hiker, Gary Hinge. 925 00:57:02,252 --> 00:57:04,254 Was made yesterday when his backpack 926 00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:08,383 was discovered by a couple camping in White Pine County. 927 00:57:08,383 --> 00:57:09,843 When they woke up in the morning, 928 00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:10,969 they found the backpack 929 00:57:10,969 --> 00:57:14,097 had been intentionally placed in their campsite. 930 00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:15,640 What they found inside 931 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,185 has sent a shockwave through the state of Nevada. 932 00:57:19,185 --> 00:57:23,231 Hinge's truck was found parked in Eureka earlier this month. 933 00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:25,442 But police now say they have evidence 934 00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:26,818 that it was parked there, 935 00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:29,821 to throw off investigators searching for him. 936 00:57:29,821 --> 00:57:34,200 - They woke up to find Gary's backpack 937 00:57:37,495 --> 00:57:40,165 draped on a shovel that they had there. 938 00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:44,335 And when they opened it, 939 00:57:46,838 --> 00:57:49,174 Gary's belongings were in there, 940 00:57:50,842 --> 00:57:52,844 (ominous music) 941 00:57:56,848 --> 00:57:58,850 as well as a severed hand, 942 00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:02,103 Gary's hand. 943 00:58:03,062 --> 00:58:05,982 (ominous music) 944 00:58:22,874 --> 00:58:25,251 - [Bill] The way that his hand was severed 945 00:58:25,251 --> 00:58:28,171 was incredibly violent. 946 00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:32,383 The way that it was chopped off, was just gruesome. 947 00:58:32,383 --> 00:58:34,177 - It was deliberately placed there, 948 00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:38,556 because someone wanted it to be found. 949 00:58:38,556 --> 00:58:40,058 - The forensic showed, 950 00:58:41,351 --> 00:58:44,979 that his hand had been severed, 951 00:58:46,814 --> 00:58:49,651 for more than five weeks. 952 00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:52,904 - And it was still clutching a video camera. 953 00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,574 And what's even more crazy was, 954 00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:01,538 the hand wasn't like torn off from a body, 955 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:03,957 it was a clean cut. 956 00:59:03,957 --> 00:59:05,250 - I was gutted, 957 00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:10,713 by the fact that he had suffered. 958 00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:13,716 - Once the camera was discovered, 959 00:59:13,716 --> 00:59:17,303 everybody wanted to know, is there a tape? 960 00:59:18,513 --> 00:59:20,265 And does the tape work? 961 00:59:20,265 --> 00:59:22,850 And what's on the tape? 962 00:59:22,850 --> 00:59:24,936 (camera shuttering) 963 00:59:24,936 --> 00:59:27,647 - We were very anxious for the crime lab 964 00:59:27,647 --> 00:59:29,148 to process the evidence. 965 00:59:29,148 --> 00:59:30,108 (camera shutters) 966 00:59:30,108 --> 00:59:33,778 And sure enough, when they did, 967 00:59:33,778 --> 00:59:36,072 the memory chip was still in the camera. 968 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,076 (camera shutters) 969 00:59:40,868 --> 00:59:45,081 (ominous music intensifies) 970 00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:56,050 It was truly terrifying to watch 971 00:59:56,050 --> 01:00:01,055 and I can't even imagine the true horror 972 01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:03,141 that he faced out there. 973 01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:08,730 - Bill calls me and the forensic investigators 974 01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:13,693 have video of Gary's final moments 975 01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:17,780 and so they take us into a room. 976 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,700 - The team thought it would be best 977 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,079 if I sat down with Beverly and watched the videos with her, 978 01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,833 because I had a relationship with her 979 01:00:28,833 --> 01:00:31,586 and I had a kind of a special rapport. 980 01:00:31,586 --> 01:00:33,171 So they thought it would probably be best 981 01:00:33,171 --> 01:00:34,922 if maybe I sat down with her first. 982 01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,843 - Bill started the first video 983 01:00:38,843 --> 01:00:45,475 and there was Gary shining his light around, saying hello. 984 01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:51,981 And the innocence in his voice, 985 01:00:54,734 --> 01:00:56,527 I just, 986 01:00:58,613 --> 01:00:59,781 I couldn't do it. 987 01:01:00,907 --> 01:01:01,991 I 988 01:01:03,534 --> 01:01:04,744 I had to stop. 989 01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:11,459 And then Bill finished watching. 990 01:01:16,631 --> 01:01:18,633 (ominous music) 991 01:01:27,308 --> 01:01:29,894 - [Bill] The clips begin like all the other clips, 992 01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,730 Gary's even smiling, 993 01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:36,859 but he has no idea what's about to happen. 994 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,739 - Hey guys, a little video update. 995 01:01:41,739 --> 01:01:43,116 I am. 996 01:01:43,116 --> 01:01:43,950 (thunder roars) 997 01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:44,951 Oh, there's thunder. 998 01:01:45,785 --> 01:01:48,579 Storm's coming in, I gotta make this quick. 999 01:01:48,579 --> 01:01:50,248 Got a whole nother ridge line to climb 1000 01:01:50,248 --> 01:01:53,626 before I get to the spot where I saw that shelter 1001 01:01:53,626 --> 01:01:57,088 but I'm about halfway there, a day and a half in. 1002 01:01:59,507 --> 01:02:00,842 We'll see what we find. 1003 01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:05,555 Climbed over one mountain range already, got one more to go. 1004 01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:08,099 And, better make it quick, 1005 01:02:08,099 --> 01:02:11,352 because that storm's coming in fast. 1006 01:02:11,352 --> 01:02:13,104 We'll see what's on the other side. 1007 01:02:14,021 --> 01:02:14,939 I got (muffled speaking) ways to go, 1008 01:02:14,939 --> 01:02:16,107 but, weird thing is, 1009 01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:19,527 I'm already distinctly smelling the smoke, 1010 01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:21,362 like I smelled last time. 1011 01:02:21,362 --> 01:02:24,365 There's no fires around, there shouldn't be anyone out here, 1012 01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:28,244 but it's very faint but very distinct smell of smoke. 1013 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:30,663 Kind of getting creeped out 1014 01:02:30,663 --> 01:02:33,624 but not as much as I was last time yet. 1015 01:02:33,624 --> 01:02:35,376 We'll see what happens. 1016 01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:37,378 Look for another video update soon. 1017 01:02:57,732 --> 01:02:59,317 (beep sound) 1018 01:02:59,317 --> 01:03:01,986 (air whooshing) 1019 01:03:36,771 --> 01:03:38,272 (beep sound) 1020 01:03:38,272 --> 01:03:40,191 (air whooshing) 1021 01:03:40,191 --> 01:03:43,027 (rattling sounds) 1022 01:03:44,237 --> 01:03:47,073 (rattling sounds) 1023 01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:07,552 (camera rattling) 1024 01:04:09,303 --> 01:04:10,763 (beep sound) 1025 01:04:10,763 --> 01:04:13,432 (air whooshing) 1026 01:04:18,604 --> 01:04:21,440 (camera rattling) 1027 01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:25,027 (beep sound) 1028 01:04:25,027 --> 01:04:27,697 (air whooshing) 1029 01:04:48,217 --> 01:04:50,887 (air whooshing) 1030 01:04:58,644 --> 01:05:01,564 (gravel crunching) 1031 01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:06,360 (air whooshing) 1032 01:05:14,744 --> 01:05:16,287 (beep sound) 1033 01:05:16,287 --> 01:05:18,956 (air whooshing) 1034 01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:32,178 All right, here's the final marker. 1035 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,147 (indistinct music playing) 1036 01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:03,209 (indistinct ominous music) 1037 01:06:34,865 --> 01:06:38,744 (gravel crunching sounds) 1038 01:06:38,744 --> 01:06:42,331 (indistinct ominous music) 1039 01:07:20,202 --> 01:07:21,036 (beep sound) 1040 01:07:21,036 --> 01:07:23,706 (air whooshing) 1041 01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:32,047 (rattling sounds) 1042 01:07:32,923 --> 01:07:33,758 (beep sound) 1043 01:07:33,758 --> 01:07:36,427 (air whooshing) 1044 01:07:42,641 --> 01:07:44,518 (rattling sounds) 1045 01:07:54,779 --> 01:07:57,448 (air whooshing) 1046 01:08:24,308 --> 01:08:27,144 (camera rattling) 1047 01:08:37,321 --> 01:08:40,074 (ominous sounds) 1048 01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:52,920 (indistinct ominous music) 1049 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,158 (camera rattling) 1050 01:09:22,158 --> 01:09:25,744 (indistinct ominous music) 1051 01:09:33,502 --> 01:09:36,422 (fluttering sound) 1052 01:10:10,456 --> 01:10:13,375 (gravel crunching) 1053 01:10:17,212 --> 01:10:20,507 (ticking sound) 1054 01:10:20,507 --> 01:10:23,427 (gravel crunching) 1055 01:10:49,620 --> 01:10:52,039 (beep sound) 1056 01:10:55,459 --> 01:10:58,128 (ticking sound) 1057 01:11:05,052 --> 01:11:07,346 (rattling sounds) 1058 01:11:07,346 --> 01:11:10,099 (gunshot blasts) 1059 01:11:13,602 --> 01:11:16,271 (ticking sound) 1060 01:11:17,731 --> 01:11:18,649 (groaning sounds) 1061 01:11:18,649 --> 01:11:22,236 (gunshot blasts) 1062 01:11:22,236 --> 01:11:24,989 (gunshot blasts) 1063 01:11:38,877 --> 01:11:40,129 (beep sound) 1064 01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:42,506 (gunshot blasts) 1065 01:11:42,506 --> 01:11:45,259 (gunshot blasts) 1066 01:11:52,141 --> 01:11:54,351 (air whooshing) 1067 01:11:54,351 --> 01:11:56,603 (beep sound) 1068 01:11:56,603 --> 01:11:59,356 (ticking sounds) 1069 01:12:07,656 --> 01:12:10,034 (beep sound) 1070 01:12:16,123 --> 01:12:18,709 (camera rattling) 1071 01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:21,462 (ticking sounds) 1072 01:12:29,011 --> 01:12:31,847 (camera rattling) 1073 01:12:47,488 --> 01:12:48,489 (beep sound) 1074 01:12:48,489 --> 01:12:50,741 (rattling sounds) 1075 01:12:50,741 --> 01:12:53,368 (ticking sound) 1076 01:12:54,912 --> 01:12:57,581 (air whooshing) 1077 01:13:03,879 --> 01:13:06,799 (stones crunching) 1078 01:13:33,242 --> 01:13:36,078 (camera rattling) 1079 01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:46,797 (camera rattling) 1080 01:13:53,804 --> 01:13:56,723 (crunching sounds) 1081 01:14:01,019 --> 01:14:04,106 (insects fluttering) 1082 01:14:57,284 --> 01:14:59,703 (Gary gasps) 1083 01:15:14,009 --> 01:15:16,678 (air whooshing) 1084 01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:27,523 - [Gal] From what you do see from the person in the video, 1085 01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:31,151 you can tell that they have a lot of physical deformities. 1086 01:15:31,151 --> 01:15:34,029 And it's probably one of the main reasons 1087 01:15:34,029 --> 01:15:38,909 why they chose to live where they lived, 1088 01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:42,204 they felt shunned by society. 1089 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,543 - [Simon] When we found out what actually happened, 1090 01:15:51,046 --> 01:15:53,340 it was like this weight 1091 01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:57,761 had been taken off of Beverly and I's relationship. 1092 01:15:57,761 --> 01:16:02,057 And now we're actually really close. 1093 01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,977 And I actually consider her kind of a big sister. 1094 01:16:06,687 --> 01:16:08,689 (sentimental music) 1095 01:16:17,406 --> 01:16:18,240 (stones crunching) 1096 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,411 - [Gary] I'm just hiking along, almost to the top. 1097 01:16:24,371 --> 01:16:25,789 Over that mountain side. 1098 01:16:29,334 --> 01:16:31,837 Still some thunder in the distance. 1099 01:16:31,837 --> 01:16:34,298 (ground crunching) 1100 01:16:34,298 --> 01:16:36,174 Amazing how far you can hike 1101 01:16:36,174 --> 01:16:39,511 and only seeing a couple of deer, 1102 01:16:39,511 --> 01:16:42,597 how much wildlife that I've seen, 1103 01:16:42,597 --> 01:16:45,142 I'm sure they see me, stay hidden. 1104 01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:52,691 But just a lot of sagebrush and trees and peaceful desert, 1105 01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:58,196 to walk. 1106 01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:01,908 The great thing about Nevada, wide open spaces. 1107 01:17:05,329 --> 01:17:08,540 - Everybody immediately wants to go and search 1108 01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:09,374 for the one thing 1109 01:17:09,374 --> 01:17:12,502 that they've been told not to go search for. 1110 01:17:12,502 --> 01:17:15,922 And so now there's this whole band of influencers 1111 01:17:15,922 --> 01:17:20,927 who are out there wanting to find this person 1112 01:17:22,971 --> 01:17:25,474 and post about it and blog about it 1113 01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:27,851 and make a video about it. 1114 01:17:27,851 --> 01:17:28,644 And, 1115 01:17:30,979 --> 01:17:32,105 to me that's, 1116 01:17:34,066 --> 01:17:35,567 I mean, that's terrifying. 1117 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,322 (ominous music) 79754

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