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- JOE: Right. 64 00:03:42,483 --> 00:03:44,923 KEN: TBI, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, 65 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:47,490 was called in, and, together, 66 00:03:47,618 --> 00:03:51,408 they started trying to develop a case from there. 67 00:03:52,797 --> 00:03:55,837 JOE: So at around midnight, Jessie Morrison's mother, 68 00:03:55,974 --> 00:03:59,944 Tammy Morrison, and Jessie's boyfriend, Gary Ealey, 69 00:04:00,022 --> 00:04:02,722 go to the Greene County Sheriff's Department, 70 00:04:02,851 --> 00:04:06,121 and they file a missing persons report for Jessie Morrison. 71 00:04:07,856 --> 00:04:09,636 I just knew something was wrong. 72 00:04:09,771 --> 00:04:12,691 We were there for hours. 73 00:04:12,817 --> 00:04:14,987 They come back and asked me if she had any identifying marks 74 00:04:15,124 --> 00:04:18,084 and I said, "She has two tattoos." 75 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:20,700 And, uh, that's how they identified her. 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,480 I just never in a million years thought I'd find my daughter dead. 77 00:04:25,613 --> 00:04:28,703 There's nothing ever gonna bring my daughter back. 78 00:04:28,833 --> 00:04:31,923 No matter what I do, my daughter's not coming back. 79 00:04:32,054 --> 00:04:34,844 [ tense music ] 80 00:04:35,013 --> 00:04:37,673 ♪ 81 00:04:37,755 --> 00:04:39,365 And she didn't deserve what she got. 82 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:42,110 ♪ 83 00:04:42,238 --> 00:04:44,328 SUE-ANN: Jessie Morrison is 21 years old, 84 00:04:44,414 --> 00:04:46,374 16 weeks pregnant, 85 00:04:46,503 --> 00:04:48,333 and she's the mother of Channing, 86 00:04:48,462 --> 00:04:50,122 who's three years old, 87 00:04:50,246 --> 00:04:51,936 and Kamdyn, who's one year old. 88 00:04:53,423 --> 00:04:55,383 RON: So according to Jessie's mother 89 00:04:55,512 --> 00:04:58,912 and Jessie's boyfriend, Gary Ealey, 90 00:04:59,037 --> 00:05:01,817 was the last person to see Jessie alive may have been Vonda Smith. 91 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:04,570 ♪ 92 00:05:04,652 --> 00:05:07,132 In looking at the family tree, here, 93 00:05:07,263 --> 00:05:09,313 Vonda's son William 94 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:12,529 is the father of one of Jessie's children, Channing. 95 00:05:12,660 --> 00:05:14,580 So Vonda is Channing's grandmother. 96 00:05:16,446 --> 00:05:20,576 Okay, so at about two a.m. on August 12, 2016, 97 00:05:20,711 --> 00:05:24,761 the local sheriff's department, assisted by TBI, shows up, 98 00:05:24,889 --> 00:05:26,799 and, uh, they knock on the door to speak to Vonda. 99 00:05:26,935 --> 00:05:30,625 RON: They tape-recorded the entire discussion 100 00:05:30,765 --> 00:05:34,805 when they actually break the news to Vonda that Jessie was dead. 101 00:05:34,899 --> 00:05:37,029 We've actually got the clip of the tape. 102 00:05:37,162 --> 00:05:38,472 And I--I'd like to play it. 103 00:05:38,599 --> 00:05:39,339 Okay. 104 00:05:43,778 --> 00:05:44,168 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: Yeah. 105 00:05:45,997 --> 00:05:47,347 VONDA: 106 00:05:47,477 --> 00:05:48,907 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 107 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:58,136 VONDA: 108 00:05:58,270 --> 00:06:01,750 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 109 00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:03,753 VONDA: 110 00:06:03,885 --> 00:06:04,885 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 111 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:08,235 VONDA: 112 00:06:08,716 --> 00:06:11,806 Vonda is told Jessie is dead. 113 00:06:11,936 --> 00:06:15,326 And Vonda doesn't ask how 114 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:17,552 or, "Oh, my God, what happened?" 115 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:19,341 or, "How could this happen?" 116 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:21,556 Makes no inquiry as to the manner of death. 117 00:06:21,685 --> 00:06:23,855 She doesn't act shocked. 118 00:06:23,992 --> 00:06:26,562 She has kind of, like, a non-reaction. 119 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:30,560 Is that indicative of her involvement in it, that she kind of-- 120 00:06:30,694 --> 00:06:32,444 she didn't just break down and cry? 121 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:34,216 RON: The suggestion is, of course, 122 00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:36,310 Vonda didn't ask because Vonda knew how she died. 123 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:38,139 Right. 124 00:06:38,267 --> 00:06:39,657 JOE: And then Vonda tells the police 125 00:06:39,790 --> 00:06:43,400 that Jessie had in fact taken her car at about 4:30 126 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:44,803 and had left to go pay some bills. 127 00:06:46,884 --> 00:06:48,764 Got in the back, or she-- 128 00:06:48,886 --> 00:06:50,316 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH: She was in-- 129 00:06:50,453 --> 00:06:51,323 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH: 130 00:06:51,454 --> 00:06:53,114 VONDA: 131 00:06:53,238 --> 00:06:53,758 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH: Okay. 132 00:06:53,891 --> 00:06:56,371 VONDA: 133 00:07:00,637 --> 00:07:01,767 VONDA: 134 00:07:01,856 --> 00:07:03,376 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 135 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:04,250 VONDA: 136 00:07:09,646 --> 00:07:12,036 VONDA: 137 00:07:15,130 --> 00:07:15,910 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH: Okay. 138 00:07:16,044 --> 00:07:18,874 VONDA: 139 00:07:19,003 --> 00:07:23,013 Her story is that she lent her car to Jessie, and her car has been returned. 140 00:07:23,138 --> 00:07:25,488 But she's clarifying that, "I didn't actually see her, 141 00:07:25,619 --> 00:07:28,539 but my car has been returned that I loaned her." 142 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:30,750 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH: 143 00:07:30,841 --> 00:07:34,321 VONDA: 144 00:07:35,411 --> 00:07:38,591 The significance about this is Vonda is cooperative. 145 00:07:38,719 --> 00:07:42,109 I mean, she just--she let them check the car, check the house. 146 00:07:42,244 --> 00:07:44,994 You know, she didn't seem to, you know, try to resist or anything. 147 00:07:45,116 --> 00:07:46,376 Yeah, good point. Very good point. 148 00:07:46,553 --> 00:07:48,953 ♪ 149 00:07:49,077 --> 00:07:51,777 RON: But when they searched the car, 150 00:07:51,906 --> 00:07:55,906 there was Jessie's blood inside the car. 151 00:07:56,780 --> 00:07:57,520 JOE: Wow. 152 00:07:58,739 --> 00:07:59,739 That is key. 153 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:01,830 That is very key. 154 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:05,569 There was absolutely no innocent explanation 155 00:08:05,659 --> 00:08:10,049 as to how Jessie's blood ended up in Vonda's car. 156 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:11,525 None. 157 00:08:11,665 --> 00:08:14,925 So Vonda is a legitimate suspect. 158 00:08:15,016 --> 00:08:15,966 Yes. 159 00:08:16,104 --> 00:08:19,634 [ fanfare ] 160 00:08:20,978 --> 00:08:23,018 REPORTER: Greene County Sheriff's Office today made an arrest 161 00:08:23,154 --> 00:08:25,944 in the murder of 21-year-old Jessie Morrison. 162 00:08:26,027 --> 00:08:29,117 REPORTER: Vonda Smith, the grandmother of Jessie's four-year-old son, 163 00:08:29,247 --> 00:08:30,947 is now charged with murder. 164 00:08:31,075 --> 00:08:33,205 This arrest has been made 165 00:08:33,338 --> 00:08:37,558 in hoping that, in the future, that justice will be done. 166 00:08:38,735 --> 00:08:40,995 About seven months later, she's indicted, right, for murder one. 167 00:08:41,129 --> 00:08:43,129 For the killing of Jessie Morrison. 168 00:08:43,218 --> 00:08:46,128 Yes, and for the death of the unborn child. 169 00:08:46,264 --> 00:08:48,964 [ ominous music ] 170 00:08:49,050 --> 00:08:51,050 I guess what's troubling me is, 171 00:08:51,182 --> 00:08:53,142 when you see the blunt force trauma, 172 00:08:53,228 --> 00:08:55,838 I just don't see a grandmother inflicting those wounds. 173 00:08:55,970 --> 00:08:56,930 Right. Right. 174 00:08:57,058 --> 00:08:58,228 I agree. 175 00:08:58,363 --> 00:09:00,583 Vonda was overweight, 4'11". 176 00:09:00,670 --> 00:09:02,800 Jessie was 5'6". 177 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:06,763 It does seem, to me, unlikely for Vonda Smith 178 00:09:06,894 --> 00:09:09,374 to have struck those fatal blows 179 00:09:09,505 --> 00:09:11,585 over and over and over again, 180 00:09:11,725 --> 00:09:15,025 killing a woman much younger and much stronger than she was. 181 00:09:15,163 --> 00:09:16,903 I just don't see it. 182 00:09:17,034 --> 00:09:19,214 SUE-ANN: And I think we can all agree 183 00:09:19,297 --> 00:09:23,207 that a conviction based on bloodstains is pretty thin. 184 00:09:23,345 --> 00:09:25,165 - JOE: Oh, yeah. - IRA: I think it's circumstantial. 185 00:09:25,303 --> 00:09:27,313 There's a lot of things missing. 186 00:09:27,436 --> 00:09:29,476 Why would somebody want to kill this woman in such a brutal way? 187 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:33,142 Right, and I think if we can find a decent motive, 188 00:09:33,224 --> 00:09:34,664 we can open this case up. 189 00:09:34,791 --> 00:09:36,401 I agree. 190 00:09:36,532 --> 00:09:37,882 I think we need to go back down to the basics, 191 00:09:38,012 --> 00:09:40,102 start this all over from scratch. 192 00:09:40,231 --> 00:09:41,761 - JOE: Yeah, I agree. - IRA: Because something's not right. 193 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:43,365 There's some things that maybe didn't come out 194 00:09:43,452 --> 00:09:44,412 that we can bring out. 195 00:09:44,496 --> 00:09:46,366 Yeah. Absolutely. 196 00:09:46,455 --> 00:09:49,755 We have a local investigator on the ground, Chrystal Waltz, 197 00:09:49,893 --> 00:09:52,203 who can help us track down people 198 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:54,860 and kinda tie up some of these loose ends. 199 00:09:54,985 --> 00:09:57,065 You bet. 200 00:09:57,205 --> 00:09:59,375 Chrystal has a lot of experience working on homicide cases, 201 00:09:59,511 --> 00:10:01,381 and she's good at getting people to open up. 202 00:10:03,211 --> 00:10:05,741 - Hi, Chrystal. - Good morning. 203 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:07,516 JOE: Chrystal, I'd be interested in hearing, 204 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:10,570 what's your initial theory after looking at this case? 205 00:10:10,697 --> 00:10:13,567 Um, there's a lot of unanswered questions for me right now. 206 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:15,920 I want to keep an open mind 207 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:20,580 and gather the facts before I give any type of theory. 208 00:10:20,707 --> 00:10:22,577 JOE: That's music to our ears. 209 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:24,889 RON: We're gonna be looking to corroborate 210 00:10:25,015 --> 00:10:26,795 Vonda Smith's account of what happened. 211 00:10:26,887 --> 00:10:29,187 CHRYSTAL: Yes. Absolutely. 212 00:10:29,324 --> 00:10:31,984 Narrowing down the timeline in Vonda's case is critical. 213 00:10:32,109 --> 00:10:33,419 - Good. - IRA: Now-- 214 00:10:33,545 --> 00:10:34,455 and do you think you'll have an opportunity 215 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:36,640 to locate some new witnesses 216 00:10:36,766 --> 00:10:37,936 and see if we can find out some other information? 217 00:10:38,072 --> 00:10:40,072 Yeah. 218 00:10:40,204 --> 00:10:42,344 Canvass is definitely something that needs to be conducted. 219 00:10:42,467 --> 00:10:44,297 - That shouldn't be a problem. - Oh, that'd be great. 220 00:10:44,382 --> 00:10:46,472 The thing I like most about small towns 221 00:10:46,602 --> 00:10:48,472 is everybody likes to talk. 222 00:10:48,604 --> 00:10:51,394 [ low guitar music ] 223 00:10:51,563 --> 00:10:54,313 ♪ 224 00:11:00,964 --> 00:11:03,404 Greeneville, Tennessee. 225 00:11:03,532 --> 00:11:06,582 It's just a different world in small country areas. 226 00:11:06,753 --> 00:11:08,893 ♪ 227 00:11:08,972 --> 00:11:11,192 The people here, 228 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,059 they're some of the best people 229 00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:14,724 you could ever come in contact with. 230 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:20,067 You know, they'd put you at their dinner table and feed you, 231 00:11:20,201 --> 00:11:22,071 or they'd give you the shirt off their back. 232 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:25,693 But at the same time, 233 00:11:25,815 --> 00:11:27,075 a lot of these people are brought up 234 00:11:27,208 --> 00:11:30,208 in drug-ridden households-- 235 00:11:30,341 --> 00:11:33,871 alcohol abuse, drug abuse, physical, mental abuse, 236 00:11:33,954 --> 00:11:35,914 and that's all they know. 237 00:11:36,826 --> 00:11:39,346 There's not a lot of work here. 238 00:11:39,481 --> 00:11:42,441 20% poverty. 239 00:11:42,527 --> 00:11:45,137 These folks, they-they don't leave Greene County. 240 00:11:45,226 --> 00:11:46,266 They-they stay right here. 241 00:11:46,444 --> 00:11:49,324 ♪ 242 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:52,147 [ car dings ] 243 00:11:59,370 --> 00:12:01,980 And this would have been where Jessie's body was discovered. 244 00:12:05,986 --> 00:12:10,856 A memorial says, "In loving memory, 8/12/16. 245 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:13,207 We love you, Jessie Nicole Morrison." 246 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,125 There's a frog. 247 00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:19,697 That's what Jessie called Channing, 248 00:12:19,826 --> 00:12:21,476 was Frog. 249 00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:26,704 And then the white cross is for the unborn baby. 250 00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:29,663 [ ominous music ] 251 00:12:29,836 --> 00:12:33,316 ♪ 252 00:12:33,448 --> 00:12:36,448 There's so much that we need to uncover regarding this case... 253 00:12:38,932 --> 00:12:42,942 ...because what evidence I've seen, 254 00:12:43,023 --> 00:12:46,643 i-it tells a very short story. 255 00:12:48,332 --> 00:12:51,072 You can tell this is kind of a dump area. 256 00:12:51,205 --> 00:12:52,815 A lot of tires. 257 00:12:53,729 --> 00:12:55,779 And just trash. 258 00:12:55,905 --> 00:12:59,775 And not one car since we've been here. 259 00:13:01,998 --> 00:13:04,038 Jessie was beaten to death 260 00:13:04,131 --> 00:13:07,091 and dumped like a piece of trash, 261 00:13:07,221 --> 00:13:08,051 but why? 262 00:13:09,745 --> 00:13:10,875 It's gonna take a lot of hard work 263 00:13:10,964 --> 00:13:13,234 and a lot of digging 264 00:13:13,314 --> 00:13:14,584 to find out what really happened. 265 00:13:16,404 --> 00:13:17,494 It's very sad. 266 00:13:20,756 --> 00:13:24,796 Jessie Morrison did not deserve to die like that. 267 00:13:29,156 --> 00:13:32,636 WILLIAM: I met Jessie at a little party some friends were having. 268 00:13:32,768 --> 00:13:34,288 [ nostalgic music ] 269 00:13:34,422 --> 00:13:36,692 She was very pretty, very outgoing. 270 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,246 Good personality. 271 00:13:38,382 --> 00:13:41,602 Seemed like a good--good girl. 272 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:44,350 I noticed her and she noticed me, 273 00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:48,572 and then we had got together and had a little fling, you'd say, 274 00:13:48,697 --> 00:13:51,787 for two weeks, maybe three at the most. 275 00:13:51,918 --> 00:13:56,488 And then I went my way and she went hers, and... 276 00:13:56,618 --> 00:13:59,228 I'm pretty sure that was when my son c--was conceived. 277 00:13:59,316 --> 00:14:01,536 But she never contacted me 278 00:14:01,623 --> 00:14:04,373 and nothing was ever said. 279 00:14:04,495 --> 00:14:06,975 I didn't know I had a son 280 00:14:07,063 --> 00:14:09,893 until I seen a picture of him on Facebook. 281 00:14:10,023 --> 00:14:12,333 As soon as I seen the picture, I knew--knew he was mine. 282 00:14:14,027 --> 00:14:15,377 I saw him the first time, 283 00:14:15,506 --> 00:14:17,856 he was probably about a year and a half. 284 00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:20,124 Jessie, she brought him down to my mother's. 285 00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:22,474 ♪ 286 00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:26,427 CHRISSY: Vonda was very thankful that she found Channing 287 00:14:26,561 --> 00:14:28,131 and, you know, she got to be a part of his life. 288 00:14:28,258 --> 00:14:31,608 Vonda and Jessie's relationship, 289 00:14:31,696 --> 00:14:33,176 it--it just flourished. 290 00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:36,267 [ low music ] 291 00:14:36,397 --> 00:14:40,787 BRITTNEY: Jessie, she was, you know, a single mom, young. 292 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,410 She wanted to make something of herself for her kids. 293 00:14:44,535 --> 00:14:46,965 And Vonda, you know, 294 00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:50,023 tried to help her any way she could. 295 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:51,890 She wanted Jessie to have a good life. 296 00:15:06,122 --> 00:15:07,432 I mean, everything was going fine. 297 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:08,728 Everybody got along. 298 00:15:08,864 --> 00:15:10,824 No animosity whatsoever. 299 00:15:10,997 --> 00:15:14,217 ♪ 300 00:15:14,348 --> 00:15:17,918 KEN: People were surprised that Vonda Smith was charged 301 00:15:18,004 --> 00:15:20,964 in connection with the murder. 302 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:24,584 She had the same job at a local hospital 303 00:15:24,706 --> 00:15:26,926 for 28 years. 304 00:15:27,056 --> 00:15:30,576 Uh, she was highly regarded in the community and by her coworkers. 305 00:15:30,668 --> 00:15:31,888 [ inhales ] I was in shock. 306 00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,888 Um, I was sick. 307 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,715 Because there's no way 308 00:15:37,849 --> 00:15:42,419 that my Aunt Vonda could do anything like that. 309 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:46,680 Vonda, I could never, ever imagine 310 00:15:46,771 --> 00:15:49,691 her being a murderer. 311 00:15:51,298 --> 00:15:54,078 REPORTER: The murder trial for a Greene County woman got underway today. 312 00:15:54,214 --> 00:15:56,224 PROSECUTOR: Your Honor, the victim... 313 00:15:56,346 --> 00:15:58,956 RON: The prosecution's theory, as it came out at trial, 314 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:03,825 it was that Vonda was the last person to s-to see Jessie alive. 315 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:08,013 Right, but as a prosecutor, I see how the case is built, 316 00:16:08,141 --> 00:16:11,141 and it's standing on the fact that there was bloodstains 317 00:16:11,274 --> 00:16:13,064 belonging to Jessie in Vonda's car. 318 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:15,059 That's the entire case. 319 00:16:15,148 --> 00:16:16,368 But what would have been her motive? 320 00:16:16,497 --> 00:16:18,887 RON: The motive, according to the prosecution, 321 00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:21,941 was that Channing was spending 322 00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:25,204 more and more time away from Vonda, 323 00:16:25,332 --> 00:16:29,342 that Vonda was upset. 324 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:33,384 TAMMY: Vonda wanted to control Channing's life. 325 00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:36,080 [ tense music ] 326 00:16:36,169 --> 00:16:37,999 She wanted control of him. 327 00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:39,907 I've seen the text messages. 328 00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:41,832 Vonda wanted more access to Channing. 329 00:16:43,132 --> 00:16:43,832 [ text message app swooshes ] 330 00:16:45,961 --> 00:16:46,831 [ text message app swooshes ] 331 00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:48,182 I think it--it got to a point 332 00:16:48,311 --> 00:16:50,531 where Jessie was unwilling 333 00:16:50,618 --> 00:16:55,188 to do what it was Vonda expected of her 334 00:16:55,318 --> 00:16:58,058 in return for the assistance that she gave her. 335 00:16:58,191 --> 00:17:02,501 I think Vonda built up quite a bit of resentment. 336 00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:05,460 When you feel like you deserve something from somebody, 337 00:17:05,589 --> 00:17:08,939 I think it became obsession. 338 00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:11,900 I think she wanted full control. 339 00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:15,771 I think she's got mad, and I think she's just snapped. 340 00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:20,473 STACY: I think everything Vonda had done for Jessie ran through her brain. 341 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,909 And the resentment just built up and built up. 342 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:29,664 That escalated into an altercation, 343 00:17:29,787 --> 00:17:32,177 and it was just a perfect storm. 344 00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:35,657 SUE-ANN: I think that, based on the prosecution's theory 345 00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:38,063 that Vonda's so angry... 346 00:17:38,187 --> 00:17:40,147 ...and Vonda and Jessie were fighting, 347 00:17:40,233 --> 00:17:43,713 I see how the case is-- was shaped... 348 00:17:43,845 --> 00:17:47,325 - RON: Yeah. - ...to just point to her by the prosecutor's evidence. 349 00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:49,977 BAILIFF: All rise. 350 00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:52,942 REPORTER: A Greene County grandmother sentenced to life in prison. 351 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:57,343 Just yesterday, a judge found Vonda Smith guilty 352 00:17:57,467 --> 00:18:00,597 of first-degree murder in the death of 21-year-old Jessie Morrison. 353 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:06,430 Vonda is currently in the West Tennessee State Prison 354 00:18:06,563 --> 00:18:09,093 on a life sentence. 355 00:18:09,218 --> 00:18:13,568 Her lawyer, Gene Scott, uh, is preparing to file a motion for a new trial. 356 00:18:13,701 --> 00:18:16,751 Uh, that'll be filed in the next couple of months. 357 00:18:16,878 --> 00:18:20,448 And that's standard practice in the state of Tennessee. 358 00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:22,707 That's the-the step you take 359 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,190 before you proceed with, uh, your appeal. 360 00:18:26,366 --> 00:18:28,586 ♪ 361 00:18:28,672 --> 00:18:30,852 TAMMY: Vonda, I hope you can live with yourself. 362 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:36,245 And your punishment'll come too. 363 00:18:36,376 --> 00:18:38,376 There will be a Judgment Day. 364 00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:40,548 Like they say, karma's a bitch. 365 00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:44,818 CHRIS: Everything they said 366 00:18:44,949 --> 00:18:48,909 about my mother is false. 367 00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:50,647 It has been very hard. 368 00:18:50,781 --> 00:18:51,961 [ inhales sharply ] 369 00:18:52,087 --> 00:18:53,777 They just took her from us. 370 00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:58,180 CHRIS: She was the best mama anybody could ever have. 371 00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:02,657 She took care of Dad. 372 00:19:02,793 --> 00:19:04,533 Didn't she, Dad? 373 00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:06,493 Been together over 30 years. 374 00:19:06,623 --> 00:19:09,583 Stage-four cancer. Was right there with him. 375 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:12,329 And now he sits here by hisself. 376 00:19:12,412 --> 00:19:15,462 I just stay here. I don't go nowhere. 377 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:19,285 Please, somebody find the right people that done it. 378 00:19:19,419 --> 00:19:22,119 There's a killer still walking around out here, 379 00:19:22,248 --> 00:19:25,898 and my mother, i-- the innocent woman that's paying the price. 380 00:19:27,296 --> 00:19:29,556 KEN: There was certain things that just made you wonder. 381 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:34,258 There are some people that feel there is more to this case 382 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:38,610 than has been revealed or has been discovered 383 00:19:38,742 --> 00:19:41,352 that bears looking into further. 384 00:19:41,484 --> 00:19:45,104 [ suspenseful music ] 385 00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:47,797 You know, what jumped out at me on this case was tunnel vision. 386 00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:50,615 Once they got her in the gunsights, that was it. 387 00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:51,844 RON: Right. 388 00:19:51,973 --> 00:19:54,723 Once they found blood in the car, 389 00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:57,145 uh, they didn't go back 390 00:19:57,283 --> 00:20:00,243 and do any sort of thorough search of the house, 391 00:20:00,373 --> 00:20:02,723 looking for bloody clothing-- 392 00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:06,813 nothing that you would expect if you were actually searching for evidence 393 00:20:06,944 --> 00:20:09,034 of somebody having committed murder. 394 00:20:09,947 --> 00:20:13,337 And why would Vonda give consent to the police to search the car, 395 00:20:13,473 --> 00:20:15,563 knowing that there's blood all over the car? 396 00:20:15,692 --> 00:20:19,572 Because she may have thought that it was something else; 397 00:20:19,696 --> 00:20:21,956 for example, cat urine. 398 00:20:22,046 --> 00:20:25,136 Vonda told the police that the weekend before the murder, 399 00:20:25,267 --> 00:20:29,047 she and Rod had driven in her car 400 00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:31,804 to visit her sister-in-law, Peggy Carter, 401 00:20:31,926 --> 00:20:34,096 and Peggy's husband, Roger. 402 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:36,583 And apparently, while they were at the Carters', 403 00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:40,630 one of their cats got into Vonda's car and peed on the seat. 404 00:20:40,761 --> 00:20:43,681 We have the recording of Vonda talking to the police about this. 405 00:20:55,819 --> 00:20:57,079 VONDA: 406 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:58,612 DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT: 407 00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:00,425 VONDA: 408 00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:01,523 DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT: 409 00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:02,611 VONDA: 410 00:21:02,739 --> 00:21:03,649 DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT: 411 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:04,794 VONDA: 412 00:21:04,915 --> 00:21:06,865 DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT: 413 00:21:07,004 --> 00:21:08,704 VONDA: 414 00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:12,232 She says she cleaned the car before the murder, 415 00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:14,934 you know, with bleach to get the urine out-- you know, the cat urine. 416 00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:17,672 Right. The implication from the bleach issue 417 00:21:17,798 --> 00:21:20,058 is that she was somehow trying to c-clean the blood. 418 00:21:20,191 --> 00:21:21,581 Right. 419 00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:24,151 It certainly is something worth following up. 420 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,203 [ melancholy banjo music ] 421 00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:29,463 ♪ 422 00:21:31,464 --> 00:21:33,344 JOE: We are in eastern Tennessee. 423 00:21:33,422 --> 00:21:35,422 - CHRYSTAL: Right. - JOE: This is nice. 424 00:21:35,555 --> 00:21:38,205 Oh, yeah. It's so beautiful in here now. 425 00:21:39,254 --> 00:21:41,954 CHRYSTAL: Peggy Carter is Vonda's sister-in-law. 426 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:43,479 Okay. 427 00:21:43,563 --> 00:21:46,043 I know the family's pretty close. 428 00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:48,000 IRA: We can find out a little bit more 429 00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:50,132 about that cat pee that's been bothering everybody. 430 00:21:50,221 --> 00:21:51,051 Yeah, I agree. 431 00:21:51,222 --> 00:21:53,962 ♪ 432 00:21:57,794 --> 00:21:58,494 - CHRYSTAL: Ready? - JOE: Let's do it. 433 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:03,796 IRA: You got a-- the welcoming committee. 434 00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,407 - CHRYSTAL: [ laughing ] Right? - JOE: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 435 00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:07,328 - [ dogs barking ] - CHRYSTAL: Hi, there. 436 00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:08,146 JOE: Come on over here, buddy. Hey, come on, then. 437 00:22:08,283 --> 00:22:10,203 [ smooching ] Come on. 438 00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:11,805 Yeah, ain't nobody gonna bother you, boy. Come here. 439 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:13,419 - How you doing, Ms. Carter? - I'm good. 440 00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:14,329 Joe Kennedy. Nice to meet you, ma'am. 441 00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:15,813 Peggy Carter. Thank you. 442 00:22:15,899 --> 00:22:17,859 CHRYSTAL: Who's the handsome man on the porch? 443 00:22:17,988 --> 00:22:18,988 PEGGY: ...put chairs in the yard if you want to-- 444 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,160 Just an old, 70-year-old man. 445 00:22:20,251 --> 00:22:22,601 That's right. You taking it easy, ain't you? 446 00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:24,432 Mr. Carter. Joe. I'm a North Carolina boy, across the border on you. 447 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,000 ROGER: Are you, now? 448 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,167 JOE: Yeah. Nice to meet you, Mr. Carter. 449 00:22:27,302 --> 00:22:29,302 Appreciate you folks giving us your time today. 450 00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:31,085 - ROGER: Hey, yeah. - PEGGY: You're welcome. 451 00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:32,349 CHRYSTAL: Before we get too much farther, 452 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:35,051 tell me about Vonda's car. 453 00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:37,789 About the cat urinating in Vonda's car? 454 00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,451 JOE: Yeah, that'd be great. 455 00:22:40,576 --> 00:22:41,796 ROGER: Well, we have a building out back 456 00:22:41,925 --> 00:22:44,965 we call the smokehouse, 457 00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:47,149 and that's their home. 458 00:22:48,062 --> 00:22:49,022 IRA: How many cats do you have altogether? 459 00:22:49,150 --> 00:22:49,930 PEGGY: We don't know. 460 00:22:50,064 --> 00:22:51,544 JOE: Okay. 461 00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:53,684 PEGGY: And we have a cat. 462 00:22:53,807 --> 00:22:55,067 Mm-hmm. 463 00:22:55,199 --> 00:22:58,159 And if you pulled up in the driveway... 464 00:22:58,289 --> 00:22:59,599 - IRA: Mm-hmm. - PEGGY: ...and you left your car windows down, 465 00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:00,642 he would get in it. 466 00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:02,600 Okay. 467 00:23:02,729 --> 00:23:05,119 PEGGY: The weekend before Jessie died, 468 00:23:05,253 --> 00:23:09,263 he sprayed Von's car with urine. 469 00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:12,218 Did anybody see the cat jump in the car? 470 00:23:12,347 --> 00:23:14,867 No, we did not see the cat jump in the car. 471 00:23:15,002 --> 00:23:16,872 - IRA: Okay. - But we saw the cat come out of the car. 472 00:23:17,004 --> 00:23:18,224 - Okay. - That's still just as good. 473 00:23:18,353 --> 00:23:20,093 - Yes. All of us did. - IRA: Okay. 474 00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:22,714 And a couple of days later, Vonda cleans the car, right? 475 00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:24,186 Yes, sir. 476 00:23:24,315 --> 00:23:26,575 I know because she called me... 477 00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:29,226 - IRA: Mm-hmm. - ...and asked me how to get cat urine out of the car. 478 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:32,454 And I said, "Bleach is the only thing I know." 479 00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:34,235 Oh, ain't nothing worse than cat piss. 480 00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:36,065 - Oh, honey, you got that right. - JOE: Oh, Lord. 481 00:23:36,153 --> 00:23:37,203 Lord have mercy. 482 00:23:37,328 --> 00:23:38,368 Nothing worse. Let me tell you. 483 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:39,940 JOE: Yeah. Yeah, I know. 484 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:42,990 So when did she ask you about how to get it out? 485 00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:46,247 Was it before the murder or after? 486 00:23:46,381 --> 00:23:48,211 - Before, honey. Before. - Okay. 487 00:23:48,296 --> 00:23:51,776 So tell me who Vonda Smith is. 488 00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,648 PEGGY: Vonda is the most loving, 489 00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:58,051 caring person I've ever known. 490 00:23:58,175 --> 00:23:59,955 She just loved Jessie. 491 00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:04,090 Vonda gave her money to pay the bills. 492 00:24:04,181 --> 00:24:07,321 If that's not a good-hearted person, I'd like to know what is. 493 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:10,136 CHRYSTAL: Did Vonda ever say anything about 494 00:24:10,231 --> 00:24:12,801 feeling like Jessie may have been taking advantage of her or anything like that? 495 00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:14,889 No. No. 496 00:24:14,975 --> 00:24:17,275 Vonda loved Jessie very much. 497 00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:18,722 Right. 498 00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:21,978 Not just because she had her grandbaby, 499 00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:24,329 but because Vonda was like that with anybody. 500 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,073 - Right. - JOE: Hmm. 501 00:24:26,203 --> 00:24:29,163 She has helped so many people out. 502 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,993 - JOE: Wow. - How did you guys even hear about Jessie's murder? 503 00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:35,042 Vonda, they had took her for questioning. 504 00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:36,425 Okay. 505 00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:40,353 My brother, Rod, asked me would I go to the sheriff's department 506 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,699 and pick Vonda up. 507 00:24:41,828 --> 00:24:44,088 She was a wreck. 508 00:24:44,221 --> 00:24:48,881 To find out that someone did what they did to poor Jessie? 509 00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:50,619 - I mean, she was heartbroken. - ROGER: Mm-hmm. 510 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,100 IRA: Now, let me ask you this. 511 00:24:52,229 --> 00:24:53,539 Vonda, you ever known her to have a temper? 512 00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:55,966 No. 513 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:57,063 IRA: You ever known her to get 514 00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:58,241 into any physical altercation with anybody? 515 00:24:58,366 --> 00:25:00,586 No. No. 516 00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:02,626 Did you see any scars on her face? 517 00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:04,372 See any blood anywhere on her? 518 00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:05,499 - No, sir. - IRA: Anything like that? 519 00:25:05,634 --> 00:25:06,684 Fair enough. 520 00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:10,639 It's just sad to know 521 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:14,990 that she shouldn't be in there, that--that the killer, whoever did it, 522 00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:16,302 they're the one who should be in there. 523 00:25:16,427 --> 00:25:17,857 IRA: Mm-hmm. 524 00:25:17,994 --> 00:25:19,524 [ sniffles, sighs ] 525 00:25:24,218 --> 00:25:25,518 Just take your time. It's okay. 526 00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:26,704 - CHRYSTAL: Yeah. Yeah. - Take your time. 527 00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:28,439 We know this is very difficult for you. 528 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:29,700 IRA: We're sorry for bringing this stuff back up. 529 00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:31,012 ROGER: No, no. We're here for Von. 530 00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:32,708 - IRA: Yes. - CHRYSTAL: Right. 531 00:25:32,835 --> 00:25:34,575 - IRA: Yeah. - ROGER: We know she's innocent. 532 00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:37,007 That girl was like a daughter to her. 533 00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:39,804 Why would she want to kill that girl, rest her soul? 534 00:25:39,929 --> 00:25:43,189 So the state's theory that Vonda committed this crime 535 00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:47,024 so she could take control over the children... 536 00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:50,068 Now, this, in my book, is BS. 537 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,730 Every time we went down there, she had those babies. 538 00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:55,382 When she had Channing, she also had Kamdyn. 539 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:57,510 So Jessie didn't fight her over keeping the kids? 540 00:25:57,643 --> 00:25:59,433 - No. - It don't make any sense. 541 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:01,948 - IRA: Right. - PEGGY: No, it doesn't. 542 00:26:02,082 --> 00:26:03,392 CHRYSTAL: I know it's hard for y'all. 543 00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:04,558 This is your family. It's your life. 544 00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:06,223 This is everything. 545 00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:09,311 IRA: Well, we gonna do what we can. 546 00:26:09,437 --> 00:26:11,657 I-I give you my word on that. 547 00:26:11,787 --> 00:26:13,137 We're gonna do everything we can to get to the bottom of this 548 00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:14,827 and get to the truth. 549 00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:17,748 ♪ 550 00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:23,584 [ suspenseful music ] 551 00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:25,282 CHRYSTAL: So I'm going to talk 552 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:28,326 to Medical Examiner Scott Giles 553 00:26:28,412 --> 00:26:31,112 about Jessie's injuries. 554 00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:33,981 He's reviewed the autopsy. He's reviewed the photographs. 555 00:26:34,114 --> 00:26:38,294 So I'm-I'm hoping that he can shed light on what happened. 556 00:26:38,422 --> 00:26:40,692 [ computer chimes ] 557 00:26:40,816 --> 00:26:42,726 - Hello. - CHRYSTAL: Hi, there. 558 00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:45,602 Dr. Giles, what are your initial thoughts? 559 00:26:46,256 --> 00:26:48,126 This was a crime of passion. 560 00:26:48,258 --> 00:26:51,438 There was significant violence in the assault. 561 00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:56,006 Is there any way to determine how the attack occurred? 562 00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:59,442 DR. GILES: Most likely, this is a face-to-face confrontation 563 00:26:59,530 --> 00:27:04,100 that escalated to the point of using some blunt object, 564 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:06,631 like a pipe or a tire iron, for example, 565 00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:10,145 to strike her in the back of the head and kill her. 566 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:14,020 CHRYSTAL: And do you think Jessie fought her attackers? 567 00:27:14,154 --> 00:27:16,854 DR. GILES: Certainly there was a struggle. 568 00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:19,253 She's got bruises to her hands, 569 00:27:19,376 --> 00:27:21,936 she had a broken finger, 570 00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:25,081 and she also had bruising to her feet, 571 00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:27,858 which could have resulted in her trying to kick the attacker. 572 00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:30,694 She was fighting for her life. 573 00:27:33,739 --> 00:27:36,349 Jessie, she would have fought back. 574 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,440 And I'm sure she did. 575 00:27:38,569 --> 00:27:42,229 If anybody was gonna force theirself upon Jessie, 576 00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:45,926 they had a fight on their hands if she seen it coming, you know? 577 00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:47,622 She could take care of herself. 578 00:27:47,753 --> 00:27:51,933 My mother wouldn't have had a chance. 579 00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:55,463 CHRYSTAL: Do you think that the person responsible 580 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:57,886 would have been injured as well? 581 00:27:58,024 --> 00:27:59,374 DR. GILES: Yes. 582 00:27:59,503 --> 00:28:01,683 Looking at the bruises on her hands, 583 00:28:01,767 --> 00:28:05,677 I would anticipate that they would have contusions wherever she hit them-- 584 00:28:05,814 --> 00:28:08,254 at the very least, have scratches on them. 585 00:28:09,122 --> 00:28:11,862 But when the police went to question Vonda Smith, grandma, 586 00:28:11,994 --> 00:28:15,744 at her house, she has no injuries, no marks. 587 00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:17,218 RON: Nothing on her hands. 588 00:28:17,347 --> 00:28:20,217 - Not even a-a torn nail. - IRA: Exactly. 589 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:23,570 - CHRIS: My mother might be breaking five feet... - WILLIAM: Yeah. 590 00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:24,662 - CHRIS: ...if she's in heels. - WILLIAM: Yeah. 591 00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:26,180 CHRIS: You know? 592 00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:28,049 You're saying she could throw a 170-pound woman 593 00:28:28,184 --> 00:28:29,534 out on the side of the road. 594 00:28:29,664 --> 00:28:31,104 - WILLIAM: Yeah. - There's no way. 595 00:28:31,231 --> 00:28:33,841 Not to mention her health. 596 00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:37,153 I mean sh--bl-- high blood pressure. 597 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,890 You know, she wasn't in the best of shape. 598 00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:44,548 - CHRYSTAL: Dr. Giles, Jessie was pregnant. - DR. GILES: Correct. 599 00:28:44,679 --> 00:28:48,069 In the autopsy, I didn't see where they had tested 600 00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:50,214 for paternity of the fetus. 601 00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:51,857 Is that common? 602 00:28:51,947 --> 00:28:54,597 With a crime of passion like this, 603 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:58,263 I would think that they would want to know who the father was. 604 00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:02,568 That might give some clues as to who was the perpetrator. 605 00:29:02,697 --> 00:29:05,957 I think that the investigation was incomplete. 606 00:29:07,354 --> 00:29:09,974 The police, I mean, they thought me and Jessie was messing around 607 00:29:10,096 --> 00:29:12,136 behind Gary's back, you know? 608 00:29:12,272 --> 00:29:14,672 They thought the baby she was pregnant with was mine. 609 00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:17,056 That was one of their questions: 610 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:20,720 Have I had sexual relations with Jessie since the birth of my son? 611 00:29:20,846 --> 00:29:22,196 I said no. 612 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,631 You know, whoever's baby it was 613 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,553 may have n-may have not have wanted the baby. 614 00:29:27,678 --> 00:29:30,118 But they--we'll never know. They didn't test it. 615 00:29:30,246 --> 00:29:32,766 [ tense music ] 616 00:29:32,901 --> 00:29:34,771 RON: And it's amazing. 617 00:29:34,903 --> 00:29:37,653 They never fully investigated the paternity of the fetus. 618 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:38,686 IRA: Yes. 619 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,207 So that's interesting 620 00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:41,433 because Jessie, when she was found, 621 00:29:41,562 --> 00:29:44,002 there was sperm in her underwear. 622 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:47,090 There was semen found, uh, 623 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:49,790 from two different contributors. 624 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,218 IRA: Mm-hmm. 625 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:53,104 RON: One, in all likelihood, 626 00:29:53,226 --> 00:29:56,396 was Jessie's boyfriend, Gary Ealey. 627 00:29:56,533 --> 00:29:59,193 But the other one was insufficient to test. 628 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:00,799 That could have been an assailant. 629 00:30:00,929 --> 00:30:03,059 It could have just been another boyfriend. 630 00:30:03,192 --> 00:30:05,542 But it would have been important to find out. 631 00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,153 Right. 632 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,110 I think the biggest mystery, for me, 633 00:30:09,242 --> 00:30:12,202 is some of the DNA that's left at the scene. 634 00:30:12,288 --> 00:30:13,678 - JOE: Unidentified. - Yeah, unidentified. 635 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:15,472 RON: Right. 636 00:30:15,552 --> 00:30:17,122 Underneath her fingernails, 637 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:20,470 they found the DNA of three male individuals, 638 00:30:20,557 --> 00:30:23,687 all of whom are unidentified. 639 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:28,392 Two of the samples were too small for comparison. 640 00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:31,182 The third was large enough to create a profile, 641 00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:35,144 and it was compared with the DNA from Jessie's boyfriend, Gary, 642 00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:39,708 and Vonda's son, William, who is Jessie's ex-boyfriend. 643 00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:42,714 Both were excluded as contributors. 644 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:45,581 [ desolate music ] 645 00:30:45,756 --> 00:30:48,536 ♪ 646 00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:57,904 Here's a question I got. You look at the timeline. 647 00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:01,950 On August 12, 2016, the day of the murder, 648 00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:03,434 Vonda and the victim are together 649 00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:05,337 for a-a large part of the day. 650 00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:08,262 So l-l-let's take a look at the timeline for a minute, 651 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,874 because I think the timeline is really crucial. 652 00:31:11,826 --> 00:31:15,606 It's at this point, 3:07 to 3:43, 653 00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:17,663 that Vonda and Jessie are in the grocery store. 654 00:31:20,922 --> 00:31:25,192 There's a video that clearly shows Vonda and Jessie together. 655 00:31:25,318 --> 00:31:27,618 You can see them shopping for groceries. 656 00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,107 That video was shown to the jury at Vonda's trial, 657 00:31:32,238 --> 00:31:34,458 and it was important for the prosecution's case. 658 00:31:47,514 --> 00:31:50,914 RON: We know the groceries made it to the trailer 659 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,169 because the groceries were found 660 00:31:52,301 --> 00:31:53,911 by the police subsequently. 661 00:31:56,915 --> 00:32:01,175 Vonda says around four o'clock to 4:30-- 4:30 at the latest-- 662 00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:03,570 they go back to Vonda's house 663 00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:05,974 and she gives Jessie a sum of cash, 664 00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:08,138 and then Jessie drives off in Vonda's car. 665 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:22,850 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 666 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:25,124 VONDA: 667 00:32:25,247 --> 00:32:26,207 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 668 00:32:26,335 --> 00:32:29,425 VONDA: 669 00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:36,612 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 670 00:32:36,693 --> 00:32:38,003 VONDA: 671 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:39,910 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 672 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,215 VONDA: 673 00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:47,273 DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER: 674 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,930 VONDA: 675 00:33:01,544 --> 00:33:02,284 VONDA: 676 00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:11,774 We need to corroborate parts of Vonda's account 677 00:33:11,902 --> 00:33:14,692 that are--it's not simply, "Vonda said." 678 00:33:14,818 --> 00:33:17,998 Is there anybody who can say 679 00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,686 that Jessie came in... 680 00:33:20,824 --> 00:33:22,784 - And paid a bill. - RON: ...and paid those bills? 681 00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:23,743 JOE: We gotta follow the money. 682 00:33:23,871 --> 00:33:26,571 [ gloomy country music ] 683 00:33:26,743 --> 00:33:30,533 ♪ 684 00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:33,657 CHRYSTAL: When Jessie's body was discovered at 7:30, 685 00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:37,064 she had 13¢ in her pocket. 686 00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:41,279 Vonda has stated that she had given Jessie a thousand dollars 687 00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:43,150 to go pay bills and get minutes on her phone. 688 00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:46,068 ♪ 689 00:33:55,163 --> 00:33:58,303 I just spoke to the manager of Walmart, 690 00:33:58,427 --> 00:34:02,477 trying to determine if Jessie bought minutes for her prepaid phone. 691 00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:06,911 She was unable to find anything regarding Jessie on that date. 692 00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:09,921 ♪ 693 00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:17,187 The employees at Cross Anchor Utility District told us 694 00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:21,146 the water bill was paid prior to three p.m., 695 00:34:21,276 --> 00:34:25,446 which is prior to when Vonda says she loaned Jessie a thousand dollars. 696 00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:29,238 ♪ 697 00:34:30,459 --> 00:34:33,029 And I also talked to the owners of the mobile home 698 00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:35,248 that Jessie and Gary lived in. 699 00:34:36,596 --> 00:34:38,506 The rent was paid in advance. 700 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:41,211 They-they didn't owe rent until September. 701 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:43,040 So it just doesn't add up. 702 00:34:43,994 --> 00:34:45,614 I find it odd. 703 00:34:45,735 --> 00:34:48,215 Where did the money go that Vonda gave her? 704 00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:50,607 Or did Vonda give Jessie any money at all? 705 00:34:54,353 --> 00:34:56,793 [ tense music ] 706 00:34:56,877 --> 00:34:59,097 Now--and I know it may seem a little farfetched-- 707 00:34:59,184 --> 00:35:01,974 but if we want to think about the thousand dollars, 708 00:35:02,056 --> 00:35:04,006 in that community, okay, 709 00:35:04,145 --> 00:35:06,275 it's like any of the rural communities in-in the South today. 710 00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:08,408 Meth is rampant. 711 00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:11,851 So if Vonda did truthfully give Jessie Morrison a thousand bucks, 712 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,199 that is a lot of money. 713 00:35:14,329 --> 00:35:15,899 That's a lot of dope that can be bought in that community. 714 00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:17,936 Right. 715 00:35:19,247 --> 00:35:21,157 JOE: And that could be a motive for why Jessie was attacked. 716 00:35:23,512 --> 00:35:25,692 ♪ 717 00:35:25,819 --> 00:35:27,819 WILLIAM: The meth... 718 00:35:27,951 --> 00:35:28,911 CHRIS: The drugs is out of control. 719 00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:30,609 Yes, it is awful, 720 00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:33,167 and I have had my battles with it, 721 00:35:33,305 --> 00:35:36,865 but I'm, you know, almost a year clean. 722 00:35:38,614 --> 00:35:41,704 But Jessie, she wasn't into the drugs or dope or-- 723 00:35:41,835 --> 00:35:43,835 you know, she would barely drink. 724 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:48,017 My theory is whoever knew Jessie had that money took the money, 725 00:35:48,102 --> 00:35:50,452 and... 726 00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:52,283 [ exhales ] 727 00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:54,151 And Jessie got the bad end of the deal. 728 00:36:07,469 --> 00:36:08,379 [ sobs ] 729 00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:18,220 I-I just-- I want to take a minute and introduce a-another player, 730 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:22,050 um, in the--in the timeline, because what happens is, 731 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,790 after her car was returned 732 00:36:24,921 --> 00:36:27,971 at around 6:30 in the evening, 733 00:36:28,098 --> 00:36:31,188 Vonda goes to pick up Emma. 734 00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:33,539 JOE: Yes. 735 00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:36,929 RON: Emma Brown is the daughter of Brittney Brown, 736 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,940 who's the ex-girlfriend of Vonda's son William. 737 00:36:41,111 --> 00:36:44,251 ♪ 738 00:36:44,332 --> 00:36:46,512 BRITTNEY: I had my daughter Emma 739 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,899 when I was a senior in high school. 740 00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:55,129 I think when I first met Vonda, Emma was five, six months old. 741 00:36:56,388 --> 00:36:58,558 At the time, me and William first started dating. 742 00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:01,484 So she would watch Emma while we went out. 743 00:37:01,567 --> 00:37:04,567 And she loved Emma from day one. 744 00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:09,618 Emma and Vonda were very close. 745 00:37:09,749 --> 00:37:12,839 Two peas in a pod. Pretty much like best friends. 746 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:14,579 She called Vonda "Nanny." 747 00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:17,711 RON: Now, Sharon Burgner, 748 00:37:17,844 --> 00:37:21,634 who is Emma's great-grandmother-- 749 00:37:21,761 --> 00:37:23,071 Sharon Burgner testified at trial 750 00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:26,107 that Vonda came over 751 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:30,424 at right around seven o'clock that night to pick up Emma. 752 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:35,210 And I know Vonda had said that there was cat pee in the car. 753 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:38,170 Emma's very finicky about things. 754 00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:41,999 So Emma was like, "I don't want to get it on my clothes." 755 00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:46,699 So Emma got a towel, put it on the passenger side. 756 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:49,219 When the police questioned me, 757 00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:51,924 they were saying, 758 00:37:52,052 --> 00:37:53,622 uh, "Vonda made Emma sit in Jessie's blood. 759 00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:55,749 "How do you feel about that? 760 00:37:55,882 --> 00:37:57,322 "How do you feel about that? 761 00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:59,019 Your daughter had to sit in Jessie's blood." 762 00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:06,406 But Emma said she did not see any blood in the car. 763 00:38:06,545 --> 00:38:08,935 You know, she's nine at the time. 764 00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:10,979 She notices things like that. 765 00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:12,861 She would have been like, "Nanny, what'd you spill in here?" 766 00:38:14,857 --> 00:38:18,817 So a-according to Emma, she saw no blood. 767 00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:19,945 No blood at all. 768 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,430 And if that's true, 769 00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:25,957 then Jessie's blood got in Vonda's car after eight o'clock, 770 00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:30,442 after Vonda comes home with Emma. 771 00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:31,919 - But they s-- - JOE: But her body's found at 7:30. 772 00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:34,088 So that wouldn't make much sense. 773 00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:36,924 Right, and that, of course, is-is the problem. 774 00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:39,933 Now, remember, Emma is a small child. 775 00:38:40,056 --> 00:38:41,446 She could be wrong. 776 00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:44,150 Sharon Burgner should be questioned. 777 00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:46,848 Did Sharon see 778 00:38:46,976 --> 00:38:50,626 that there was bloodstains belonging to Jessie in Vonda's car? 779 00:38:50,763 --> 00:38:51,943 JOE: I think that's a great idea. 780 00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:53,068 - So... - JOE: You're right on. 781 00:38:53,156 --> 00:38:55,766 [ suspenseful music ] 782 00:38:55,942 --> 00:38:58,772 ♪ 783 00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:07,393 CHRYSTAL: Today I'm going to talk to Sharon Burgner. 784 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,999 She is the great-grandmother of Emma Brown. 785 00:39:11,131 --> 00:39:15,921 Sharon saw Vonda Smith on August 12, 2016, 786 00:39:16,049 --> 00:39:19,179 when Vonda arrived to pick up Emma. 787 00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:25,673 The case does hang on whether Sharon saw any blood in the vehicle. 788 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,938 Well, Sharon, on August 12th, is the day that we're talking about, 789 00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:34,976 of 2016. 790 00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:38,161 Vonda, she was gonna come get Emma that afternoon. 791 00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:39,988 Do you remember what time Vonda arrived? 792 00:39:40,116 --> 00:39:41,596 Seven o'clock. 793 00:39:41,727 --> 00:39:43,417 How do you remember that? 794 00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:46,035 Because the news had just went off. 795 00:39:46,949 --> 00:39:50,559 And me and her talked about the family and, you know, just chitchat. 796 00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:53,572 Did you notice any scratches, bruises... 797 00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:55,175 - No. - CHRYSTAL: ...injuries at all? 798 00:39:55,262 --> 00:39:56,312 No. 799 00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:58,047 So Vonda told you about 800 00:39:58,178 --> 00:40:00,878 the cat spraying inside her car. 801 00:40:01,007 --> 00:40:01,957 - Emma-- - At some point, Emma comes out. 802 00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:04,395 Em--Emma--yes, she comes running out. 803 00:40:04,532 --> 00:40:07,062 Of course, Emma being Emma, 804 00:40:07,187 --> 00:40:08,837 she come back in here and got a towel. 805 00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:11,151 Did you see the seat at that point? 806 00:40:11,278 --> 00:40:12,848 Yes. 807 00:40:12,975 --> 00:40:15,405 Did you notice anything on the seat? 808 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,370 No. No, I didn't. 809 00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:21,073 I want to show you some photographs. 810 00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:25,381 Did you see any of that in the passenger-side front seat? 811 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:26,690 - Did you notice-- - No. No way. 812 00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:29,375 No way. I never seen anything like that. 813 00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,914 What does it look like to you? 814 00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:34,778 I think it looks like a lot of blood, is what I think. 815 00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:36,960 CHRYSTAL: I-it stands out quite a bit. 816 00:40:37,043 --> 00:40:39,003 Something that you would have noticed. 817 00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:41,002 Of course. Definitely. 818 00:40:41,134 --> 00:40:42,094 Okay. 819 00:40:42,222 --> 00:40:43,442 And what about this one? 820 00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:47,396 No. 821 00:40:47,532 --> 00:40:48,752 No. 822 00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,541 Okay. 823 00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:55,666 What are some of the things you would say about Jessie and Vonda's relationship? 824 00:40:55,757 --> 00:40:57,797 Vonda, she told me one time-- she said, 825 00:40:57,933 --> 00:41:00,203 "I just want her to have a better life." 826 00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:01,937 Right. 827 00:41:02,068 --> 00:41:04,848 She had even started buying baby clothes for that baby. 828 00:41:04,984 --> 00:41:07,074 Do you mean Jessie's unborn... 829 00:41:07,203 --> 00:41:08,123 - SHARON: Yup. - ...child? 830 00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:09,858 Mm-hmm. 831 00:41:09,945 --> 00:41:11,765 [ quietly ] I'm sorry. [ sniffles softly ] 832 00:41:11,904 --> 00:41:13,434 It's okay. 833 00:41:13,558 --> 00:41:15,038 [ crying softly ] 834 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,778 CHRYSTAL: You take your time. 835 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,910 You okay? 836 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,050 She wouldn't have done anything--anything to hurt her. 837 00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:27,352 Did Vonda love Jessie? 838 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,485 She loved her. 839 00:41:29,617 --> 00:41:30,787 And she loved those kids. 840 00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:31,973 [ sniffles ] 841 00:41:32,098 --> 00:41:33,968 And you know... 842 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,360 she would have never took those kids' mom 843 00:41:37,451 --> 00:41:41,061 after she was-- didn't have no mom herself. 844 00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:42,114 [ stirring music ] 845 00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:03,392 CHRISSY: Vonda's mother died when she was young. 846 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:08,261 And I think her giving nature, her helpfulness, her nurturing, 847 00:42:08,351 --> 00:42:12,051 all that stemmed from the lack of when Vonda was a child. 848 00:42:13,705 --> 00:42:15,835 CHRIS: She helped people 849 00:42:15,968 --> 00:42:18,668 because she knew how hard it was to go without something. 850 00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:20,973 And she never wanted-- 851 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:23,450 ...to see anybody go through that. 852 00:42:25,804 --> 00:42:27,464 Do you think Vonda's capable of committing a crime... 853 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:28,545 - No. - ...like this? 854 00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:30,846 No, she's not capable of it. 855 00:42:30,983 --> 00:42:32,723 [ sniffles ] 856 00:42:32,854 --> 00:42:36,554 It took a vicious person to do what was done. 857 00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:38,685 There's no way. 858 00:42:38,817 --> 00:42:41,247 There's just no way. 859 00:42:41,384 --> 00:42:43,004 Do you have an opinion 860 00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:45,815 on how Jessie's blood would have got in Vonda's car? 861 00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:49,573 [ clicks tongue ] No. 862 00:42:49,697 --> 00:42:51,257 I just know it wasn't Vonda. 863 00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:53,404 I would bet my life on that. 864 00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:56,307 [ tense music ] 865 00:42:56,486 --> 00:42:57,746 ♪ 866 00:42:57,879 --> 00:43:01,359 Sharon is a country grandma. 867 00:43:01,491 --> 00:43:05,631 She's the grandma that you want to go see every Sunday after church. 868 00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:08,757 I think she's an honest person. 869 00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:13,770 Had she walked out to that car and saw blood, 870 00:43:13,895 --> 00:43:17,115 she would have definitely done something about it. 871 00:43:17,246 --> 00:43:19,726 Whether it's confront Vonda 872 00:43:19,858 --> 00:43:23,038 or not allow Emma to go with Vonda, 873 00:43:23,165 --> 00:43:24,645 she would have sensed something was wrong 874 00:43:24,776 --> 00:43:26,426 and she would have kept Emma home. 875 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,820 But if she did not see blood in that car, 876 00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:32,995 where in the world did it come from? 877 00:43:33,132 --> 00:43:34,872 It's a-absolutely a mystery. 878 00:43:35,047 --> 00:43:37,827 ♪ 879 00:43:40,879 --> 00:43:42,709 [ dark music ] 880 00:43:42,881 --> 00:43:44,581 ♪ 881 00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:48,795 RON: Sharon Burgner says very emphatically, 882 00:43:48,887 --> 00:43:51,717 before they put a towel down for the cat pee, 883 00:43:51,846 --> 00:43:53,196 she looked inside the car 884 00:43:53,326 --> 00:43:57,236 and she did not see any blood. 885 00:43:57,373 --> 00:44:00,073 But if there's no blood in the car when Vonda picks up Emma, 886 00:44:00,202 --> 00:44:02,162 how did the blood get in the car? 887 00:44:02,291 --> 00:44:06,301 There is a universe in which somebody, somehow, could have 888 00:44:06,382 --> 00:44:10,872 just planted Jessie's blood in the car. 889 00:44:10,996 --> 00:44:11,866 Yes. 890 00:44:28,796 --> 00:44:30,276 And let's say that Vonda didn't do it. 891 00:44:30,363 --> 00:44:31,633 So who did it? 892 00:44:31,756 --> 00:44:33,536 Right. 893 00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:34,631 JOE: What jumped out at me is that Vonda says, 894 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,539 on the day of the murder, 895 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:38,460 she sees her car and then a white van next to it. 896 00:44:38,588 --> 00:44:39,978 RON: That's right. 897 00:44:40,112 --> 00:44:44,122 And that account is given exclusively by Vonda 898 00:44:44,246 --> 00:44:46,286 at the time she spoke to the police. 899 00:44:55,475 --> 00:44:57,865 VONDA: 900 00:45:03,091 --> 00:45:06,491 What's interesting to me is there's some reports of other people seeing the white van. 901 00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,706 RON: Yes. 902 00:45:08,836 --> 00:45:10,616 JOE: It's seen at Jessie's trailer by two people: 903 00:45:10,751 --> 00:45:13,151 Jason Matthews and Edward Hitchens. 904 00:45:13,275 --> 00:45:17,105 Right. They were two witnesses who did testify for the defense. 905 00:45:17,671 --> 00:45:19,631 Mr. Hitchens testified 906 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,370 that he saw Jessie near a white van on August 12th. 907 00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:29,639 And Mr. Matthews saw Jessie get into a white van. 908 00:45:31,729 --> 00:45:34,299 Wha-what's going on here? 909 00:45:34,427 --> 00:45:36,817 So the common denominator in their story is they both see a white van. 910 00:45:36,951 --> 00:45:38,471 Yes. 911 00:45:38,561 --> 00:45:40,131 So that's interesting. 912 00:45:40,259 --> 00:45:41,609 You know, I think it's important that Chrystal go back, 913 00:45:41,695 --> 00:45:43,475 talk to one of these witnesses, 914 00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:44,870 and just see if we can clear some things up. 915 00:45:45,046 --> 00:45:47,826 ♪ 916 00:45:53,663 --> 00:45:56,583 CHRYSTAL: I'm headed to Jason Matthews' residence. 917 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:59,670 He's the witness that testified during trial 918 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,720 that he saw a white van the day Jessie was killed. 919 00:46:03,848 --> 00:46:06,198 I do want to narrow down the time frame, 920 00:46:06,328 --> 00:46:09,588 and he lives right next door to the-- 921 00:46:09,723 --> 00:46:12,033 Jessie and Gary's trailer park. 922 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,690 So I think Jason Matthews is a very key witness. 923 00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:18,690 ♪ 924 00:46:24,607 --> 00:46:28,437 Jason, can you show me where you were sitting 925 00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:31,008 the day you saw Jessie on August 12th? 926 00:46:33,181 --> 00:46:34,181 Show me. 927 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:36,580 - The brown chair? - Yup. 928 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,280 Go ahead and sit in the chair like you were sitting. 929 00:46:45,498 --> 00:46:48,148 Is this where you usually sit to watch the cars pass by? 930 00:46:52,113 --> 00:46:52,903 Okay. 931 00:46:54,812 --> 00:46:56,512 Jason, 932 00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:59,989 do you remember seeing Jessie come out of her home? 933 00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:08,776 Okay. 934 00:47:08,913 --> 00:47:10,523 And you believe it was around 5:30? 935 00:47:12,742 --> 00:47:14,792 Do you know anything special about the van? 936 00:47:14,919 --> 00:47:15,749 Was it a new van? 937 00:47:18,226 --> 00:47:19,616 Do you know what color the van was? 938 00:47:21,273 --> 00:47:23,143 ♪ 939 00:47:23,275 --> 00:47:25,755 CHRYSTAL: Jason, he does have hearing issues. 940 00:47:25,886 --> 00:47:29,016 His speech is affected by that, 941 00:47:29,150 --> 00:47:32,110 but nothing at all wrong with his sight. 942 00:47:32,197 --> 00:47:34,367 I do think Jason's telling the truth. 943 00:47:35,243 --> 00:47:37,813 If he saw Jessie getting into the white van at 5:30, 944 00:47:37,942 --> 00:47:41,902 that leads us to believe that Jessie was alive at 5:30 p.m. 945 00:47:42,033 --> 00:47:44,863 That would be long after Jessie borrows Vonda's car to go pay bills. 946 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:49,650 Jessie's deceased body was discovered 947 00:47:49,779 --> 00:47:52,999 at approximately 7:30, 948 00:47:53,131 --> 00:47:55,871 and I believe it's about a 40-minute drive 949 00:47:56,003 --> 00:47:59,183 from Vonda's residence to Sharon's residence. 950 00:48:00,442 --> 00:48:02,622 If Vonda committed the crime, 951 00:48:02,705 --> 00:48:05,315 she would have had just an hour and 20 minutes, 952 00:48:05,447 --> 00:48:07,487 and then she's got to clean up. 953 00:48:07,623 --> 00:48:10,503 You've gotta dispose of evidence. 954 00:48:10,626 --> 00:48:15,066 It could create a problem with placing Vonda 955 00:48:15,196 --> 00:48:18,586 in the timeline, killing Jessie Morrison. 956 00:48:18,678 --> 00:48:20,898 ♪ 957 00:48:21,028 --> 00:48:24,158 But we've got a lot more leads to exhaust. 958 00:48:27,165 --> 00:48:30,425 ♪ 959 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,649 IRA: Two months after Jessie's murder, 960 00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:34,739 Vonda started doing her own investigation. 961 00:48:34,868 --> 00:48:36,088 She started looking for the white van. 962 00:49:33,883 --> 00:49:35,153 [ sobs ] 963 00:49:36,712 --> 00:49:38,062 [ crying ] 964 00:49:45,721 --> 00:49:50,381 [ sobbing ] 965 00:49:52,728 --> 00:49:54,638 [ crying ] 69056

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