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[ ominous tones ]
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Jessie Morrison was
savagely and brutally beaten.
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ANGIE:
There's blood
all over the car.
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I don't know
how Vonda couldn't've saw it.
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REPORTER:
Vonda Smith, the grandmother
of Jessie's four-year-old son,
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is now charged with murder.
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I think she's got mad,
and I think she's just snapped.
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JOE:
What I'm looking for
is hidden blood.
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Look at the armrest.
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Looks like an arm
was up there.
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IRA:
That is amazing.
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WILLIAM: There's a killer still walking around out here,
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and my mother i--the innocent
woman that's paying the price.
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PEGGY:
She shouldn't be in there.
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Vonda loved Jessie very much.
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I just don't see a grandmother
inflicting those wounds.
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IRA:
I think the biggest mystery,
for me,
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is some of the DNA
that's left at the scene.
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- JOE: Unidentified.
- Yeah, unidentified.
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The thing I like most about
small towns is everybody likes
to talk.
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It has been very hard.
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Please, somebody find
the right people that done it.
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VONDA:
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[ sobs ]
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[ sobs ]
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August 2016,
about 7:30 p.m.,
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the body of a young woman is
found on the side of the road.
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What's interesting to me
is there's no effort to conceal
that body.
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You're right.
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A passerby walking his dog
had found the body,
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which was off a rural road,
down an embankment.
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She's beaten brutally,
and she's suffered from
a lot of trauma to her head.
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Sheriff's deputies and
detectives responded to the
scene.
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And indications were she was
struck by a blunt object.
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The actual item that was used
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was never found.
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Now, the beating,
as I understand it,
was particularly savage.
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There would have been
a lot of blood.
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JOE:
But if you look at the crime
scene photos of the dump site,
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you'll see very little blood.
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IRA: You know,
I think that wasn't the scene
where she was killed.
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JOE:
Yeah, exactly.
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That's a secondary crime scene, where her body's dumped.
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IRA:
That's right.
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It's not the primary crime scene.
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You know, when we think about
how we dispose of a body,
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there's bodies that are dumped,
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and there's bodies
that are concealed,
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and then there's bodies
that are displayed.
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And you can see this is a quick dump site.
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You know, there's no effort
to conceal the body.
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And it may have been, like,
a time factor too.
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You know,
they got rid of the body
as quick as they could.
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- You know?
- JOE: Right.
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KEN:
TBI, the Tennessee Bureau
of Investigation,
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was called in,
and, together,
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they started trying
to develop a case from there.
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JOE:
So at around midnight,
Jessie Morrison's mother,
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Tammy Morrison,
and Jessie's boyfriend,
Gary Ealey,
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go to the Greene County
Sheriff's Department,
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and they file a missing persons
report for Jessie Morrison.
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I just knew
something was wrong.
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We were there for hours.
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They come back and asked me
if she had any identifying marks
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and I said,
"She has two tattoos."
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And, uh,
that's how they identified her.
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I just never in a million years
thought I'd find
my daughter dead.
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There's nothing ever gonna
bring my daughter back.
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No matter what I do,
my daughter's not coming back.
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And she didn't deserve
what she got.
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SUE-ANN:
Jessie Morrison
is 21 years old,
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16 weeks pregnant,
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and she's the mother
of Channing,
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who's three years old,
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and Kamdyn,
who's one year old.
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RON: So according to Jessie's mother
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and Jessie's boyfriend, Gary Ealey,
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was the last person
to see Jessie alive
may have been Vonda Smith.
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In looking
at the family tree, here,
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Vonda's son William
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is the father of one of Jessie's children, Channing.
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So Vonda is Channing's grandmother.
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Okay, so at about two a.m.
on August 12, 2016,
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the local sheriff's department,
assisted by TBI, shows up,
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and, uh, they knock
on the door to speak to Vonda.
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RON: They tape-recorded the entire discussion
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when they actually
break the news to Vonda
that Jessie was dead.
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We've actually got
the clip of the tape.
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And I--I'd like to play it.
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Okay.
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
Yeah.
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VONDA:
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
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VONDA:
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
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VONDA:
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
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VONDA:
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Vonda is told Jessie is dead.
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And Vonda doesn't ask how
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or,
"Oh, my God, what happened?"
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or, "How could this happen?"
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Makes no inquiry
as to the manner of death.
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She doesn't act shocked.
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She has kind of, like,
a non-reaction.
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Is that indicative
of her involvement in it,
that she kind of--
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she didn't just
break down and cry?
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RON:
The suggestion is, of course,
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Vonda didn't ask because
Vonda knew how she died.
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Right.
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JOE:
And then Vonda
tells the police
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that Jessie had in fact
taken her car at about 4:30
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and had left
to go pay some bills.
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Got in the back, or she--
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH:
She was in--
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH:
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VONDA:
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH:
Okay.
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VONDA:
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VONDA:
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
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VONDA:
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VONDA:
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH:
Okay.
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VONDA:
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Her story is that she lent
her car to Jessie,
and her car has been returned.
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But she's clarifying that,
"I didn't actually see her,
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but my car has been returned
that I loaned her."
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT RANDOLPH:
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VONDA:
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The significance about this
is Vonda is cooperative.
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I mean, she just--she let them
check the car, check the house.
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You know, she didn't seem to,
you know, try to resist or
anything.
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Yeah, good point.
Very good point.
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RON: But when they searched the car,
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there was Jessie's blood
inside the car.
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JOE: Wow.
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That is key.
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That is very key.
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There was absolutely
no innocent explanation
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as to how Jessie's blood
ended up in Vonda's car.
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None.
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So Vonda is
a legitimate suspect.
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Yes.
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[ fanfare ]
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REPORTER:
Greene County Sheriff's Office
today made an arrest
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in the murder of 21-year-old
Jessie Morrison.
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REPORTER:
Vonda Smith, the grandmother
of Jessie's four-year-old son,
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is now charged with murder.
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This arrest has been made
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in hoping that, in the future,
that justice will be done.
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About seven months later,
she's indicted, right,
for murder one.
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For the killing
of Jessie Morrison.
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Yes, and for the death
of the unborn child.
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I guess what's
troubling me is,
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when you see
the blunt force trauma,
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I just don't see a grandmother
inflicting those wounds.
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Right. Right.
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I agree.
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Vonda was overweight, 4'11".
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Jessie was 5'6".
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It does seem, to me,
unlikely for Vonda Smith
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to have struck
those fatal blows
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over and over and over again,
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killing a woman much younger
and much stronger than she was.
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I just don't see it.
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SUE-ANN:
And I think we can all agree
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that a conviction based
on bloodstains is pretty thin.
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- JOE: Oh, yeah.
- IRA: I think it's
circumstantial.
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There's a lot
of things missing.
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Why would somebody want
to kill this woman
in such a brutal way?
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Right, and I think
if we can find a decent motive,
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we can open this case up.
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I agree.
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I think we need to go back
down to the basics,
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start this all over
from scratch.
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- JOE: Yeah, I agree.
- IRA: Because something's
not right.
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There's some things that
maybe didn't come out
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that we can bring out.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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We have a local investigator
on the ground, Chrystal Waltz,
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who can help us
track down people
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and kinda tie up
some of these loose ends.
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You bet.
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Chrystal has a lot of experience
working on homicide cases,
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and she's good
at getting people to open up.
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- Hi, Chrystal.
- Good morning.
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JOE:
Chrystal,
I'd be interested in hearing,
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what's your initial theory
after looking at this case?
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Um, there's a lot of unanswered
questions for me right now.
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I want to keep an open mind
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and gather the facts before
I give any type of theory.
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JOE:
That's music to our ears.
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RON:
We're gonna be looking
to corroborate
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Vonda Smith's account
of what happened.
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CHRYSTAL:
Yes. Absolutely.
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Narrowing down the timeline
in Vonda's case is critical.
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- Good.
- IRA: Now--
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and do you think you'll have an opportunity
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to locate some new witnesses
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and see if we can find out
some other information?
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Yeah.
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Canvass is definitely something
that needs to be conducted.
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- That shouldn't be a problem.
- Oh, that'd be great.
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The thing I like most
about small towns
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is everybody likes to talk.
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Greeneville, Tennessee.
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It's just a different world
in small country areas.
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The people here,
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they're some of the best people
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you could ever
come in contact with.
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You know, they'd put you at their dinner table and feed you,
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or they'd give you
the shirt off their back.
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But at the same time,
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a lot of these people
are brought up
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in drug-ridden households--
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alcohol abuse, drug abuse,
physical, mental abuse,
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and that's all they know.
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There's not
a lot of work here.
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20% poverty.
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These folks, they-they don't
leave Greene County.
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They-they stay right here.
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[ car dings ]
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And this would have been where
Jessie's body was discovered.
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A memorial says,
"In loving memory, 8/12/16.
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We love you,
Jessie Nicole Morrison."
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There's a frog.
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That's what Jessie
called Channing,
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was Frog.
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And then the white cross
is for the unborn baby.
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[ ominous music ]
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♪
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There's so much
that we need to uncover
regarding this case...
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...because what evidence
I've seen,
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i-it tells a very short story.
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You can tell
this is kind of a dump area.
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A lot of tires.
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And just trash.
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And not one car
since we've been here.
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Jessie was beaten to death
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and dumped like
a piece of trash,
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but why?
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It's gonna take
a lot of hard work
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and a lot of digging
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to find out
what really happened.
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It's very sad.
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Jessie Morrison did not
deserve to die like that.
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WILLIAM:
I met Jessie at a little party
some friends were having.
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[ nostalgic music ]
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She was very pretty,
very outgoing.
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Good personality.
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Seemed like a good--good girl.
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I noticed her
and she noticed me,
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and then we had got together
and had a little fling,
you'd say,
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for two weeks,
maybe three at the most.
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And then I went my way
and she went hers, and...
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I'm pretty sure that was
when my son c--was conceived.
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But she never contacted me
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and nothing was ever said.
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I didn't know I had a son
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until I seen a picture of him on Facebook.
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As soon as I seen the picture,
I knew--knew he was mine.
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I saw him the first time,
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he was probably about a year and a half.
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Jessie, she brought him down to my mother's.
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♪
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CHRISSY:
Vonda was very thankful
that she found Channing
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and, you know, she got
to be a part of his life.
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Vonda and Jessie's
relationship,
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it--it just flourished.
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[ low music ]
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BRITTNEY:
Jessie, she was, you know,
a single mom, young.
292
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She wanted to make something
of herself for her kids.
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And Vonda, you know,
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tried to help her
any way she could.
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She wanted Jessie
to have a good life.
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I mean, everything
was going fine.
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Everybody got along.
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No animosity whatsoever.
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♪
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KEN:
People were surprised
that Vonda Smith was charged
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in connection with the murder.
302
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She had the same job
at a local hospital
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for 28 years.
304
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Uh, she was highly regarded
in the community
and by her coworkers.
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[ inhales ]
I was in shock.
306
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Um, I was sick.
307
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Because there's no way
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that my Aunt Vonda
could do anything like that.
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Vonda, I could never,
ever imagine
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her being a murderer.
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REPORTER: The murder trial
for a Greene County woman
got underway today.
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PROSECUTOR:
Your Honor, the victim...
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RON: The prosecution's theory, as it came out at trial,
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it was that Vonda
was the last person
to s-to see Jessie alive.
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Right, but as a prosecutor,
I see how the case is built,
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and it's standing on the fact
that there was bloodstains
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belonging to Jessie
in Vonda's car.
318
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That's the entire case.
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But what would have
been her motive?
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RON: The motive, according to the prosecution,
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was that Channing was spending
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more and more time away from Vonda,
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that Vonda was upset.
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TAMMY:
Vonda wanted
to control Channing's life.
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[ tense music ]
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She wanted control of him.
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I've seen the text messages.
328
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Vonda wanted more access
to Channing.
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[ text message app swooshes ]
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[ text message app swooshes ]
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I think it--it got to a point
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where Jessie was unwilling
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to do what it was
Vonda expected of her
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in return for the assistance
that she gave her.
335
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I think Vonda built up
quite a bit of resentment.
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When you feel like you deserve
something from somebody,
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I think it became obsession.
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I think she wanted
full control.
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I think she's got mad,
and I think she's just snapped.
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STACY: I think everything
Vonda had done for Jessie
ran through her brain.
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And the resentment
just built up and built up.
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That escalated
into an altercation,
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and it was just
a perfect storm.
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SUE-ANN:
I think that, based on
the prosecution's theory
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that Vonda's so angry...
346
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...and Vonda
and Jessie were fighting,
347
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I see how the case is--
was shaped...
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- RON: Yeah.
- ...to just point to her
by the prosecutor's evidence.
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BAILIFF:
All rise.
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REPORTER:
A Greene County grandmother
sentenced to life in prison.
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Just yesterday, a judge found
Vonda Smith guilty
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of first-degree murder
in the death of 21-year-old
Jessie Morrison.
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Vonda is currently in the
West Tennessee State Prison
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on a life sentence.
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Her lawyer, Gene Scott, uh,
is preparing to file
a motion for a new trial.
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Uh, that'll be filed
in the next couple of months.
357
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And that's standard practice
in the state of Tennessee.
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That's the-the step you take
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before you proceed
with, uh, your appeal.
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♪
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TAMMY:
Vonda, I hope you can live
with yourself.
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And your punishment'll come too.
363
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There will be
a Judgment Day.
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Like they say, karma's a bitch.
365
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CHRIS:
Everything they said
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about my mother is false.
367
00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:50,647
It has been very hard.
368
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[ inhales sharply ]
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They just took her from us.
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CHRIS:
She was the best mama
anybody could ever have.
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She took care of Dad.
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Didn't she, Dad?
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Been together over 30 years.
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Stage-four cancer.
Was right there with him.
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And now he sits here
by hisself.
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I just stay here.
I don't go nowhere.
377
00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:19,285
Please, somebody find
the right people that done it.
378
00:19:19,419 --> 00:19:22,119
There's a killer still
walking around out here,
379
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and my mother, i--
the innocent woman
that's paying the price.
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KEN:
There was certain things
that just made you wonder.
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There are some people that feel
there is more to this case
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than has been revealed
or has been discovered
383
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that bears looking into
further.
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[ suspenseful music ]
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You know, what jumped out
at me on this case
was tunnel vision.
386
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Once they got her
in the gunsights, that was it.
387
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RON:
Right.
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00:19:51,973 --> 00:19:54,723
Once they found blood
in the car,
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uh, they didn't go back
390
00:19:57,283 --> 00:20:00,243
and do any sort of
thorough search of the house,
391
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looking for bloody clothing--
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nothing that you would expect
if you were actually
searching for evidence
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of somebody
having committed murder.
394
00:20:09,947 --> 00:20:13,337
And why would Vonda
give consent to the police
to search the car,
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knowing that there's blood
all over the car?
396
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Because she may have thought
that it was something else;
397
00:20:19,696 --> 00:20:21,956
for example, cat urine.
398
00:20:22,046 --> 00:20:25,136
Vonda told the police that
the weekend before the murder,
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00:20:25,267 --> 00:20:29,047
she and Rod had driven
in her car
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00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:31,804
to visit her sister-in-law,
Peggy Carter,
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00:20:31,926 --> 00:20:34,096
and Peggy's husband, Roger.
402
00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:36,583
And apparently,
while they were
at the Carters',
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one of their cats
got into Vonda's car
and peed on the seat.
404
00:20:40,761 --> 00:20:43,681
We have the recording
of Vonda talking
to the police about this.
405
00:20:55,819 --> 00:20:57,079
VONDA:
406
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DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT:
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00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:00,425
VONDA:
408
00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:01,523
DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT:
409
00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:02,611
VONDA:
410
00:21:02,739 --> 00:21:03,649
DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT:
411
00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:04,794
VONDA:
412
00:21:04,915 --> 00:21:06,865
DETECTIVE SERGEANT HOLT:
413
00:21:07,004 --> 00:21:08,704
VONDA:
414
00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:12,232
She says she cleaned the car
before the murder,
415
00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:14,934
you know, with bleach
to get the urine out--
you know, the cat urine.
416
00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:17,672
Right. The implication
from the bleach issue
417
00:21:17,798 --> 00:21:20,058
is that she was somehow
trying to c-clean the blood.
418
00:21:20,191 --> 00:21:21,581
Right.
419
00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:24,151
It certainly is something
worth following up.
420
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,203
[ melancholy banjo music ]
421
00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:29,463
♪
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00:21:31,464 --> 00:21:33,344
JOE:
We are in eastern Tennessee.
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- CHRYSTAL: Right.
- JOE: This is nice.
424
00:21:35,555 --> 00:21:38,205
Oh, yeah.
It's so beautiful in here now.
425
00:21:39,254 --> 00:21:41,954
CHRYSTAL:
Peggy Carter
is Vonda's sister-in-law.
426
00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:43,479
Okay.
427
00:21:43,563 --> 00:21:46,043
I know
the family's pretty close.
428
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:48,000
IRA:
We can find out
a little bit more
429
00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:50,132
about that cat pee
that's been bothering
everybody.
430
00:21:50,221 --> 00:21:51,051
Yeah, I agree.
431
00:21:51,222 --> 00:21:53,962
♪
432
00:21:57,794 --> 00:21:58,494
- CHRYSTAL: Ready?
- JOE: Let's do it.
433
00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:03,796
IRA:
You got a--
the welcoming committee.
434
00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,407
- CHRYSTAL: [ laughing ] Right?
- JOE: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
435
00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:07,328
- [ dogs barking ]
- CHRYSTAL: Hi, there.
436
00:22:07,456 --> 00:22:08,146
JOE:
Come on over here, buddy.
Hey, come on, then.
437
00:22:08,283 --> 00:22:10,203
[ smooching ] Come on.
438
00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:11,805
Yeah, ain't nobody gonna
bother you, boy.
Come here.
439
00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:13,419
- How you doing, Ms. Carter?
- I'm good.
440
00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:14,329
Joe Kennedy.
Nice to meet you, ma'am.
441
00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:15,813
Peggy Carter. Thank you.
442
00:22:15,899 --> 00:22:17,859
CHRYSTAL:
Who's the handsome man
on the porch?
443
00:22:17,988 --> 00:22:18,988
PEGGY:
...put chairs in the yard
if you want to--
444
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,160
Just an old, 70-year-old man.
445
00:22:20,251 --> 00:22:22,601
That's right.
You taking it easy, ain't you?
446
00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:24,432
Mr. Carter. Joe.
I'm a North Carolina boy,
across the border on you.
447
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,000
ROGER:
Are you, now?
448
00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,167
JOE:
Yeah.
Nice to meet you, Mr. Carter.
449
00:22:27,302 --> 00:22:29,302
Appreciate you folks
giving us your time today.
450
00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:31,085
- ROGER: Hey, yeah.
- PEGGY: You're welcome.
451
00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:32,349
CHRYSTAL:
Before we get
too much farther,
452
00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:35,051
tell me about Vonda's car.
453
00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:37,789
About the cat urinating
in Vonda's car?
454
00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,451
JOE:
Yeah, that'd be great.
455
00:22:40,576 --> 00:22:41,796
ROGER:
Well, we have a building
out back
456
00:22:41,925 --> 00:22:44,965
we call the smokehouse,
457
00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:47,149
and that's their home.
458
00:22:48,062 --> 00:22:49,022
IRA:
How many cats
do you have altogether?
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PEGGY:
We don't know.
460
00:22:50,064 --> 00:22:51,544
JOE:
Okay.
461
00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:53,684
PEGGY:
And we have a cat.
462
00:22:53,807 --> 00:22:55,067
Mm-hmm.
463
00:22:55,199 --> 00:22:58,159
And if you pulled up
in the driveway...
464
00:22:58,289 --> 00:22:59,599
- IRA: Mm-hmm.
- PEGGY: ...and you left
your car windows down,
465
00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:00,642
he would get in it.
466
00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:02,600
Okay.
467
00:23:02,729 --> 00:23:05,119
PEGGY:
The weekend before
Jessie died,
468
00:23:05,253 --> 00:23:09,263
he sprayed Von's car
with urine.
469
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:12,218
Did anybody see
the cat jump in the car?
470
00:23:12,347 --> 00:23:14,867
No, we did not see
the cat jump in the car.
471
00:23:15,002 --> 00:23:16,872
- IRA: Okay.
- But we saw the cat
come out of the car.
472
00:23:17,004 --> 00:23:18,224
- Okay.
- That's still just as good.
473
00:23:18,353 --> 00:23:20,093
- Yes. All of us did.
- IRA: Okay.
474
00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:22,714
And a couple of days later,
Vonda cleans the car, right?
475
00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:24,186
Yes, sir.
476
00:23:24,315 --> 00:23:26,575
I know
because she called me...
477
00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:29,226
- IRA: Mm-hmm.
- ...and asked me how to get
cat urine out of the car.
478
00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:32,454
And I said,
"Bleach is the only thing
I know."
479
00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:34,235
Oh, ain't nothing worse
than cat piss.
480
00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:36,065
- Oh, honey,
you got that right.
- JOE: Oh, Lord.
481
00:23:36,153 --> 00:23:37,203
Lord have mercy.
482
00:23:37,328 --> 00:23:38,368
Nothing worse.
Let me tell you.
483
00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:39,940
JOE: Yeah. Yeah, I know.
484
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:42,990
So when did she ask you about
how to get it out?
485
00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:46,247
Was it before
the murder or after?
486
00:23:46,381 --> 00:23:48,211
- Before, honey. Before.
- Okay.
487
00:23:48,296 --> 00:23:51,776
So tell me who Vonda Smith is.
488
00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,648
PEGGY:
Vonda is the most loving,
489
00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:58,051
caring person I've ever known.
490
00:23:58,175 --> 00:23:59,955
She just loved Jessie.
491
00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:04,090
Vonda gave her money
to pay the bills.
492
00:24:04,181 --> 00:24:07,321
If that's not
a good-hearted person,
I'd like to know what is.
493
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:10,136
CHRYSTAL:
Did Vonda ever say
anything about
494
00:24:10,231 --> 00:24:12,801
feeling like Jessie may have
been taking advantage of her
or anything like that?
495
00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:14,889
No. No.
496
00:24:14,975 --> 00:24:17,275
Vonda loved Jessie very much.
497
00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:18,722
Right.
498
00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:21,978
Not just because
she had her grandbaby,
499
00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:24,329
but because Vonda was
like that with anybody.
500
00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,073
- Right.
- JOE: Hmm.
501
00:24:26,203 --> 00:24:29,163
She has helped
so many people out.
502
00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,993
- JOE: Wow.
- How did you guys even hear
about Jessie's murder?
503
00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:35,042
Vonda, they had took her
for questioning.
504
00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:36,425
Okay.
505
00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:40,353
My brother, Rod,
asked me would I go
to the sheriff's department
506
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,699
and pick Vonda up.
507
00:24:41,828 --> 00:24:44,088
She was a wreck.
508
00:24:44,221 --> 00:24:48,881
To find out that someone did
what they did to poor Jessie?
509
00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:50,619
- I mean, she was heartbroken.
- ROGER: Mm-hmm.
510
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,100
IRA:
Now, let me ask you this.
511
00:24:52,229 --> 00:24:53,539
Vonda, you ever known her
to have a temper?
512
00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:55,966
No.
513
00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:57,063
IRA:
You ever known her to get
514
00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:58,241
into any physical
altercation with anybody?
515
00:24:58,366 --> 00:25:00,586
No. No.
516
00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:02,626
Did you see any scars
on her face?
517
00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:04,372
See any blood
anywhere on her?
518
00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:05,499
- No, sir.
- IRA: Anything like that?
519
00:25:05,634 --> 00:25:06,684
Fair enough.
520
00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:10,639
It's just sad to know
521
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:14,990
that she shouldn't be in there,
that--that the killer,
whoever did it,
522
00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:16,302
they're the one
who should be in there.
523
00:25:16,427 --> 00:25:17,857
IRA:
Mm-hmm.
524
00:25:17,994 --> 00:25:19,524
[ sniffles, sighs ]
525
00:25:24,218 --> 00:25:25,518
Just take your time.
It's okay.
526
00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:26,704
- CHRYSTAL: Yeah. Yeah.
- Take your time.
527
00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:28,439
We know this is
very difficult for you.
528
00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:29,700
IRA:
We're sorry for bringing
this stuff back up.
529
00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:31,012
ROGER:
No, no.
We're here for Von.
530
00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:32,708
- IRA: Yes.
- CHRYSTAL: Right.
531
00:25:32,835 --> 00:25:34,575
- IRA: Yeah. - ROGER: We know she's innocent.
532
00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:37,007
That girl was like
a daughter to her.
533
00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:39,804
Why would she want to kill
that girl, rest her soul?
534
00:25:39,929 --> 00:25:43,189
So the state's theory that
Vonda committed this crime
535
00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:47,024
so she could take control
over the children...
536
00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:50,068
Now, this, in my book, is BS.
537
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,730
Every time we went down there,
she had those babies.
538
00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:55,382
When she had Channing,
she also had Kamdyn.
539
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:57,510
So Jessie didn't fight her
over keeping the kids?
540
00:25:57,643 --> 00:25:59,433
- No.
- It don't make any sense.
541
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:01,948
- IRA: Right.
- PEGGY: No, it doesn't.
542
00:26:02,082 --> 00:26:03,392
CHRYSTAL:
I know
it's hard for y'all.
543
00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:04,558
This is your family.
It's your life.
544
00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:06,223
This is everything.
545
00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:09,311
IRA:
Well, we gonna do what we can.
546
00:26:09,437 --> 00:26:11,657
I-I give you my word on that.
547
00:26:11,787 --> 00:26:13,137
We're gonna do
everything we can
to get to the bottom of this
548
00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:14,827
and get to the truth.
549
00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:17,748
♪
550
00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:23,584
[ suspenseful music ]
551
00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:25,282
CHRYSTAL:
So I'm going to talk
552
00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:28,326
to Medical Examiner
Scott Giles
553
00:26:28,412 --> 00:26:31,112
about Jessie's injuries.
554
00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:33,981
He's reviewed the autopsy.
He's reviewed the photographs.
555
00:26:34,114 --> 00:26:38,294
So I'm-I'm hoping that he can
shed light on what happened.
556
00:26:38,422 --> 00:26:40,692
[ computer chimes ]
557
00:26:40,816 --> 00:26:42,726
- Hello.
- CHRYSTAL: Hi, there.
558
00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:45,602
Dr. Giles,
what are your initial thoughts?
559
00:26:46,256 --> 00:26:48,126
This was a crime of passion.
560
00:26:48,258 --> 00:26:51,438
There was significant violence
in the assault.
561
00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:56,006
Is there any way to determine
how the attack occurred?
562
00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:59,442
DR. GILES:
Most likely, this is
a face-to-face confrontation
563
00:26:59,530 --> 00:27:04,100
that escalated to the point
of using some blunt object,
564
00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:06,631
like a pipe or a tire iron,
for example,
565
00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:10,145
to strike her in the back
of the head and kill her.
566
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:14,020
CHRYSTAL:
And do you think
Jessie fought her attackers?
567
00:27:14,154 --> 00:27:16,854
DR. GILES:
Certainly
there was a struggle.
568
00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:19,253
She's got bruises
to her hands,
569
00:27:19,376 --> 00:27:21,936
she had a broken finger,
570
00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:25,081
and she also had
bruising to her feet,
571
00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:27,858
which could have resulted
in her trying
to kick the attacker.
572
00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:30,694
She was fighting for her life.
573
00:27:33,739 --> 00:27:36,349
Jessie,
she would have fought back.
574
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,440
And I'm sure she did.
575
00:27:38,569 --> 00:27:42,229
If anybody was gonna force
theirself upon Jessie,
576
00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:45,926
they had a fight on their hands
if she seen it coming, you know?
577
00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:47,622
She could take care of herself.
578
00:27:47,753 --> 00:27:51,933
My mother wouldn't have had a chance.
579
00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:55,463
CHRYSTAL:
Do you think
that the person responsible
580
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:57,886
would have been injured
as well?
581
00:27:58,024 --> 00:27:59,374
DR. GILES:
Yes.
582
00:27:59,503 --> 00:28:01,683
Looking at the bruises
on her hands,
583
00:28:01,767 --> 00:28:05,677
I would anticipate that
they would have contusions
wherever she hit them--
584
00:28:05,814 --> 00:28:08,254
at the very least,
have scratches on them.
585
00:28:09,122 --> 00:28:11,862
But when the police went
to question Vonda Smith,
grandma,
586
00:28:11,994 --> 00:28:15,744
at her house,
she has no injuries, no marks.
587
00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:17,218
RON: Nothing on her hands.
588
00:28:17,347 --> 00:28:20,217
- Not even a-a torn nail.
- IRA: Exactly.
589
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:23,570
- CHRIS: My mother might be
breaking five feet...
- WILLIAM: Yeah.
590
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:24,662
- CHRIS: ...if she's in heels.
- WILLIAM: Yeah.
591
00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:26,180
CHRIS:
You know?
592
00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:28,049
You're saying she could throw
a 170-pound woman
593
00:28:28,184 --> 00:28:29,534
out on the side of the road.
594
00:28:29,664 --> 00:28:31,104
- WILLIAM: Yeah.
- There's no way.
595
00:28:31,231 --> 00:28:33,841
Not to mention her health.
596
00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:37,153
I mean sh--bl--
high blood pressure.
597
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,890
You know, she wasn't
in the best of shape.
598
00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:44,548
- CHRYSTAL: Dr. Giles,
Jessie was pregnant.
- DR. GILES: Correct.
599
00:28:44,679 --> 00:28:48,069
In the autopsy, I didn't see
where they had tested
600
00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:50,214
for paternity of the fetus.
601
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:51,857
Is that common?
602
00:28:51,947 --> 00:28:54,597
With a crime of passion
like this,
603
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:58,263
I would think
that they would want to know
who the father was.
604
00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:02,568
That might give some clues
as to who was the perpetrator.
605
00:29:02,697 --> 00:29:05,957
I think that the investigation
was incomplete.
606
00:29:07,354 --> 00:29:09,974
The police, I mean,
they thought me and Jessie
was messing around
607
00:29:10,096 --> 00:29:12,136
behind Gary's back, you know?
608
00:29:12,272 --> 00:29:14,672
They thought the baby
she was pregnant with was mine.
609
00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:17,056
That was one of their questions:
610
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:20,720
Have I had sexual relations with
Jessie since the birth of my
son?
611
00:29:20,846 --> 00:29:22,196
I said no.
612
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,631
You know, whoever's baby it was
613
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,553
may have n-may have not have
wanted the baby.
614
00:29:27,678 --> 00:29:30,118
But they--we'll never know.
They didn't test it.
615
00:29:30,246 --> 00:29:32,766
[ tense music ]
616
00:29:32,901 --> 00:29:34,771
RON:
And it's amazing.
617
00:29:34,903 --> 00:29:37,653
They never fully investigated
the paternity of the fetus.
618
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:38,686
IRA:
Yes.
619
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,207
So that's interesting
620
00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:41,433
because Jessie,
when she was found,
621
00:29:41,562 --> 00:29:44,002
there was sperm
in her underwear.
622
00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:47,090
There was semen found, uh,
623
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:49,790
from two
different contributors.
624
00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,218
IRA:
Mm-hmm.
625
00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:53,104
RON:
One, in all likelihood,
626
00:29:53,226 --> 00:29:56,396
was Jessie's boyfriend,
Gary Ealey.
627
00:29:56,533 --> 00:29:59,193
But the other one
was insufficient to test.
628
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:00,799
That could have been
an assailant.
629
00:30:00,929 --> 00:30:03,059
It could have just been
another boyfriend.
630
00:30:03,192 --> 00:30:05,542
But it would have been
important to find out.
631
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,153
Right.
632
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,110
I think the biggest mystery,
for me,
633
00:30:09,242 --> 00:30:12,202
is some of the DNA
that's left at the scene.
634
00:30:12,288 --> 00:30:13,678
- JOE: Unidentified.
- Yeah, unidentified.
635
00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:15,472
RON:
Right.
636
00:30:15,552 --> 00:30:17,122
Underneath her fingernails,
637
00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:20,470
they found the DNA
of three male individuals,
638
00:30:20,557 --> 00:30:23,687
all of whom are unidentified.
639
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:28,392
Two of the samples
were too small for comparison.
640
00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:31,182
The third was large enough
to create a profile,
641
00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:35,144
and it was compared
with the DNA
from Jessie's boyfriend, Gary,
642
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:39,708
and Vonda's son, William,
who is Jessie's ex-boyfriend.
643
00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:42,714
Both were excluded
as contributors.
644
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:45,581
[ desolate music ]
645
00:30:45,756 --> 00:30:48,536
♪
646
00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:57,904
Here's a question I got.
You look at the timeline.
647
00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:01,950
On August 12, 2016,
the day of the murder,
648
00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:03,434
Vonda and the victim
are together
649
00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:05,337
for a-a large part of the day.
650
00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:08,262
So l-l-let's take a look
at the timeline for a minute,
651
00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,874
because I think the timeline
is really crucial.
652
00:31:11,826 --> 00:31:15,606
It's at this point,
3:07 to 3:43,
653
00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:17,663
that Vonda and Jessie
are in the grocery store.
654
00:31:20,922 --> 00:31:25,192
There's a video
that clearly shows
Vonda and Jessie together.
655
00:31:25,318 --> 00:31:27,618
You can see them
shopping for groceries.
656
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,107
That video was shown
to the jury at Vonda's trial,
657
00:31:32,238 --> 00:31:34,458
and it was important
for the prosecution's case.
658
00:31:47,514 --> 00:31:50,914
RON:
We know the groceries
made it to the trailer
659
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,169
because the groceries
were found
660
00:31:52,301 --> 00:31:53,911
by the police subsequently.
661
00:31:56,915 --> 00:32:01,175
Vonda says
around four o'clock to 4:30--
4:30 at the latest--
662
00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:03,570
they go back to Vonda's house
663
00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:05,974
and she gives Jessie
a sum of cash,
664
00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:08,138
and then Jessie drives off
in Vonda's car.
665
00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:22,850
DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
666
00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:25,124
VONDA:
667
00:32:25,247 --> 00:32:26,207
DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
668
00:32:26,335 --> 00:32:29,425
VONDA:
669
00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:36,612
DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
670
00:32:36,693 --> 00:32:38,003
VONDA:
671
00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:39,910
DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
672
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,215
VONDA:
673
00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:47,273
DETECTIVE SERGEANT RICKER:
674
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,930
VONDA:
675
00:33:01,544 --> 00:33:02,284
VONDA:
676
00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:11,774
We need to corroborate parts
of Vonda's account
677
00:33:11,902 --> 00:33:14,692
that are--it's not simply,
"Vonda said."
678
00:33:14,818 --> 00:33:17,998
Is there anybody who can say
679
00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,686
that Jessie came in...
680
00:33:20,824 --> 00:33:22,784
- And paid a bill.
- RON: ...and paid those bills?
681
00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:23,743
JOE:
We gotta follow the money.
682
00:33:23,871 --> 00:33:26,571
[ gloomy country music ]
683
00:33:26,743 --> 00:33:30,533
♪
684
00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:33,657
CHRYSTAL:
When Jessie's body
was discovered at 7:30,
685
00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:37,064
she had 13¢ in her pocket.
686
00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:41,279
Vonda has stated that she had
given Jessie a thousand dollars
687
00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:43,150
to go pay bills
and get minutes on her phone.
688
00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:46,068
♪
689
00:33:55,163 --> 00:33:58,303
I just spoke
to the manager of Walmart,
690
00:33:58,427 --> 00:34:02,477
trying to determine
if Jessie bought minutes
for her prepaid phone.
691
00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:06,911
She was unable to find anything
regarding Jessie on that date.
692
00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:09,921
♪
693
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:17,187
The employees at Cross Anchor Utility District told us
694
00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:21,146
the water bill was paid
prior to three p.m.,
695
00:34:21,276 --> 00:34:25,446
which is prior
to when Vonda says she loaned
Jessie a thousand dollars.
696
00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:29,238
♪
697
00:34:30,459 --> 00:34:33,029
And I also talked to the owners of the mobile home
698
00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:35,248
that Jessie and Gary lived in.
699
00:34:36,596 --> 00:34:38,506
The rent was paid in advance.
700
00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:41,211
They-they didn't owe rent
until September.
701
00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:43,040
So it just doesn't add up.
702
00:34:43,994 --> 00:34:45,614
I find it odd.
703
00:34:45,735 --> 00:34:48,215
Where did the money
go that Vonda gave her?
704
00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:50,607
Or did Vonda give Jessie
any money at all?
705
00:34:54,353 --> 00:34:56,793
[ tense music ]
706
00:34:56,877 --> 00:34:59,097
Now--and I know it may seem
a little farfetched--
707
00:34:59,184 --> 00:35:01,974
but if we want to think
about the thousand dollars,
708
00:35:02,056 --> 00:35:04,006
in that community, okay,
709
00:35:04,145 --> 00:35:06,275
it's like any
of the rural communities
in-in the South today.
710
00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:08,408
Meth is rampant.
711
00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:11,851
So if Vonda did truthfully
give Jessie Morrison
a thousand bucks,
712
00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,199
that is a lot of money.
713
00:35:14,329 --> 00:35:15,899
That's a lot of dope that can
be bought in that community.
714
00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:17,936
Right.
715
00:35:19,247 --> 00:35:21,157
JOE:
And that could be a motive
for why Jessie was attacked.
716
00:35:23,512 --> 00:35:25,692
♪
717
00:35:25,819 --> 00:35:27,819
WILLIAM:
The meth...
718
00:35:27,951 --> 00:35:28,911
CHRIS:
The drugs is out of control.
719
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:30,609
Yes, it is awful,
720
00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:33,167
and I have had
my battles with it,
721
00:35:33,305 --> 00:35:36,865
but I'm, you know,
almost a year clean.
722
00:35:38,614 --> 00:35:41,704
But Jessie, she wasn't into the drugs or dope or--
723
00:35:41,835 --> 00:35:43,835
you know,
she would barely drink.
724
00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:48,017
My theory is whoever knew
Jessie had that money
took the money,
725
00:35:48,102 --> 00:35:50,452
and...
726
00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:52,283
[ exhales ]
727
00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:54,151
And Jessie got
the bad end of the deal.
728
00:36:07,469 --> 00:36:08,379
[ sobs ]
729
00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:18,220
I-I just--
I want to take a minute
and introduce a-another player,
730
00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:22,050
um, in the--in the timeline,
because what happens is,
731
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,790
after her car was returned
732
00:36:24,921 --> 00:36:27,971
at around 6:30 in the evening,
733
00:36:28,098 --> 00:36:31,188
Vonda goes to pick up Emma.
734
00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:33,539
JOE:
Yes.
735
00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:36,929
RON:
Emma Brown is the daughter
of Brittney Brown,
736
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,940
who's the ex-girlfriend
of Vonda's son William.
737
00:36:41,111 --> 00:36:44,251
♪
738
00:36:44,332 --> 00:36:46,512
BRITTNEY:
I had my daughter Emma
739
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,899
when I was a senior
in high school.
740
00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:55,129
I think when I first met Vonda,
Emma was five, six months old.
741
00:36:56,388 --> 00:36:58,558
At the time, me and William
first started dating.
742
00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:01,484
So she would watch Emma
while we went out.
743
00:37:01,567 --> 00:37:04,567
And she loved Emma
from day one.
744
00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:09,618
Emma and Vonda
were very close.
745
00:37:09,749 --> 00:37:12,839
Two peas in a pod.
Pretty much like best friends.
746
00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:14,579
She called Vonda "Nanny."
747
00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:17,711
RON:
Now, Sharon Burgner,
748
00:37:17,844 --> 00:37:21,634
who is Emma's
great-grandmother--
749
00:37:21,761 --> 00:37:23,071
Sharon Burgner
testified at trial
750
00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:26,107
that Vonda came over
751
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:30,424
at right around seven o'clock
that night to pick up Emma.
752
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:35,210
And I know Vonda had said
that there was cat pee
in the car.
753
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:38,170
Emma's very finicky
about things.
754
00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:41,999
So Emma was like,
"I don't want to get it
on my clothes."
755
00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:46,699
So Emma got a towel,
put it on the passenger side.
756
00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:49,219
When the police questioned me,
757
00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:51,924
they were saying,
758
00:37:52,052 --> 00:37:53,622
uh, "Vonda made Emma
sit in Jessie's blood.
759
00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:55,749
"How do you feel about that?
760
00:37:55,882 --> 00:37:57,322
"How do you feel about that?
761
00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:59,019
Your daughter had to sit
in Jessie's blood."
762
00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:06,406
But Emma said she did not see
any blood in the car.
763
00:38:06,545 --> 00:38:08,935
You know,
she's nine at the time.
764
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:10,979
She notices things like that.
765
00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:12,861
She would have been like,
"Nanny, what'd you
spill in here?"
766
00:38:14,857 --> 00:38:18,817
So a-according to Emma,
she saw no blood.
767
00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:19,945
No blood at all.
768
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,430
And if that's true,
769
00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:25,957
then Jessie's blood got
in Vonda's car
after eight o'clock,
770
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:30,442
after Vonda comes home
with Emma.
771
00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:31,919
- But they s--
- JOE: But her body's found
at 7:30.
772
00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:34,088
So that wouldn't
make much sense.
773
00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:36,924
Right, and that, of course,
is-is the problem.
774
00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:39,933
Now, remember,
Emma is a small child.
775
00:38:40,056 --> 00:38:41,446
She could be wrong.
776
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:44,150
Sharon Burgner should
be questioned.
777
00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:46,848
Did Sharon see
778
00:38:46,976 --> 00:38:50,626
that there was bloodstains
belonging to Jessie
in Vonda's car?
779
00:38:50,763 --> 00:38:51,943
JOE:
I think that's a great idea.
780
00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:53,068
- So...
- JOE: You're right on.
781
00:38:53,156 --> 00:38:55,766
[ suspenseful music ]
782
00:38:55,942 --> 00:38:58,772
♪
783
00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:07,393
CHRYSTAL:
Today I'm going
to talk to Sharon Burgner.
784
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,999
She is the great-grandmother
of Emma Brown.
785
00:39:11,131 --> 00:39:15,921
Sharon saw Vonda Smith
on August 12, 2016,
786
00:39:16,049 --> 00:39:19,179
when Vonda arrived
to pick up Emma.
787
00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:25,673
The case does hang on
whether Sharon saw
any blood in the vehicle.
788
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,938
Well, Sharon,
on August 12th, is the day
that we're talking about,
789
00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:34,976
of 2016.
790
00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:38,161
Vonda, she was gonna come get
Emma that afternoon.
791
00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:39,988
Do you remember
what time Vonda arrived?
792
00:39:40,116 --> 00:39:41,596
Seven o'clock.
793
00:39:41,727 --> 00:39:43,417
How do you remember that?
794
00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:46,035
Because the news
had just went off.
795
00:39:46,949 --> 00:39:50,559
And me and her
talked about the family and,
you know, just chitchat.
796
00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:53,572
Did you notice any scratches,
bruises...
797
00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:55,175
- No. - CHRYSTAL: ...injuries at all?
798
00:39:55,262 --> 00:39:56,312
No.
799
00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:58,047
So Vonda told you about
800
00:39:58,178 --> 00:40:00,878
the cat spraying
inside her car.
801
00:40:01,007 --> 00:40:01,957
- Emma--
- At some point,
Emma comes out.
802
00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:04,395
Em--Emma--yes,
she comes running out.
803
00:40:04,532 --> 00:40:07,062
Of course, Emma being Emma,
804
00:40:07,187 --> 00:40:08,837
she come back
in here and got a towel.
805
00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:11,151
Did you see the seat
at that point?
806
00:40:11,278 --> 00:40:12,848
Yes.
807
00:40:12,975 --> 00:40:15,405
Did you notice anything
on the seat?
808
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,370
No.
No, I didn't.
809
00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:21,073
I want to show you
some photographs.
810
00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:25,381
Did you see any of that
in the passenger-side
front seat?
811
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:26,690
- Did you notice--
- No. No way.
812
00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:29,375
No way. I never seen
anything like that.
813
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,914
What does it look like to you?
814
00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:34,778
I think it looks like
a lot of blood, is what I think.
815
00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:36,960
CHRYSTAL:
I-it stands out quite a bit.
816
00:40:37,043 --> 00:40:39,003
Something
that you would have noticed.
817
00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:41,002
Of course.
Definitely.
818
00:40:41,134 --> 00:40:42,094
Okay.
819
00:40:42,222 --> 00:40:43,442
And what about this one?
820
00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:47,396
No.
821
00:40:47,532 --> 00:40:48,752
No.
822
00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,541
Okay.
823
00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:55,666
What are some of the things
you would say about Jessie
and Vonda's relationship?
824
00:40:55,757 --> 00:40:57,797
Vonda, she told me one time--
she said,
825
00:40:57,933 --> 00:41:00,203
"I just want her
to have a better life."
826
00:41:00,327 --> 00:41:01,937
Right.
827
00:41:02,068 --> 00:41:04,848
She had even started buying
baby clothes for that baby.
828
00:41:04,984 --> 00:41:07,074
Do you mean Jessie's unborn...
829
00:41:07,203 --> 00:41:08,123
- SHARON: Yup.
- ...child?
830
00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:09,858
Mm-hmm.
831
00:41:09,945 --> 00:41:11,765
[ quietly ] I'm sorry.
[ sniffles softly ]
832
00:41:11,904 --> 00:41:13,434
It's okay.
833
00:41:13,558 --> 00:41:15,038
[ crying softly ]
834
00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,778
CHRYSTAL:
You take your time.
835
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,910
You okay?
836
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,050
She wouldn't have done
anything--anything to hurt her.
837
00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:27,352
Did Vonda love Jessie?
838
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,485
She loved her.
839
00:41:29,617 --> 00:41:30,787
And she loved those kids.
840
00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:31,973
[ sniffles ]
841
00:41:32,098 --> 00:41:33,968
And you know...
842
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,360
she would have never took
those kids' mom
843
00:41:37,451 --> 00:41:41,061
after she was--
didn't have no mom herself.
844
00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:42,114
[ stirring music ]
845
00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:03,392
CHRISSY:
Vonda's mother died
when she was young.
846
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:08,261
And I think her giving nature,
her helpfulness, her nurturing,
847
00:42:08,351 --> 00:42:12,051
all that stemmed from the lack
of when Vonda was a child.
848
00:42:13,705 --> 00:42:15,835
CHRIS: She helped people
849
00:42:15,968 --> 00:42:18,668
because she knew
how hard it was
to go without something.
850
00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:20,973
And she never wanted--
851
00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:23,450
...to see anybody
go through that.
852
00:42:25,804 --> 00:42:27,464
Do you think Vonda's capable
of committing a crime...
853
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:28,545
- No.
- ...like this?
854
00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:30,846
No, she's not capable of it.
855
00:42:30,983 --> 00:42:32,723
[ sniffles ]
856
00:42:32,854 --> 00:42:36,554
It took a vicious person
to do what was done.
857
00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:38,685
There's no way.
858
00:42:38,817 --> 00:42:41,247
There's just no way.
859
00:42:41,384 --> 00:42:43,004
Do you have an opinion
860
00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:45,815
on how Jessie's blood
would have got in Vonda's car?
861
00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:49,573
[ clicks tongue ]
No.
862
00:42:49,697 --> 00:42:51,257
I just know it wasn't Vonda.
863
00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:53,404
I would bet my life on that.
864
00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:56,307
[ tense music ]
865
00:42:56,486 --> 00:42:57,746
♪
866
00:42:57,879 --> 00:43:01,359
Sharon is a country grandma.
867
00:43:01,491 --> 00:43:05,631
She's the grandma that you want to go see every Sunday after church.
868
00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:08,757
I think she's an honest person.
869
00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:13,770
Had she walked out
to that car and saw blood,
870
00:43:13,895 --> 00:43:17,115
she would have definitely done
something about it.
871
00:43:17,246 --> 00:43:19,726
Whether it's confront Vonda
872
00:43:19,858 --> 00:43:23,038
or not allow Emma
to go with Vonda,
873
00:43:23,165 --> 00:43:24,645
she would have sensed
something was wrong
874
00:43:24,776 --> 00:43:26,426
and she would
have kept Emma home.
875
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,820
But if she did not see blood
in that car,
876
00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:32,995
where in the world
did it come from?
877
00:43:33,132 --> 00:43:34,872
It's a-absolutely a mystery.
878
00:43:35,047 --> 00:43:37,827
♪
879
00:43:40,879 --> 00:43:42,709
[ dark music ]
880
00:43:42,881 --> 00:43:44,581
♪
881
00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:48,795
RON: Sharon Burgner says very emphatically,
882
00:43:48,887 --> 00:43:51,717
before they put a towel down
for the cat pee,
883
00:43:51,846 --> 00:43:53,196
she looked inside the car
884
00:43:53,326 --> 00:43:57,236
and she did not see any blood.
885
00:43:57,373 --> 00:44:00,073
But if there's no blood
in the car
when Vonda picks up Emma,
886
00:44:00,202 --> 00:44:02,162
how did the blood
get in the car?
887
00:44:02,291 --> 00:44:06,301
There is a universe in which
somebody, somehow, could have
888
00:44:06,382 --> 00:44:10,872
just planted
Jessie's blood in the car.
889
00:44:10,996 --> 00:44:11,866
Yes.
890
00:44:28,796 --> 00:44:30,276
And let's say
that Vonda didn't do it.
891
00:44:30,363 --> 00:44:31,633
So who did it?
892
00:44:31,756 --> 00:44:33,536
Right.
893
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:34,631
JOE: What jumped out at me
is that Vonda says,
894
00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,539
on the day of the murder,
895
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:38,460
she sees her car and then
a white van next to it.
896
00:44:38,588 --> 00:44:39,978
RON: That's right.
897
00:44:40,112 --> 00:44:44,122
And that account is given
exclusively by Vonda
898
00:44:44,246 --> 00:44:46,286
at the time she spoke to the police.
899
00:44:55,475 --> 00:44:57,865
VONDA:
900
00:45:03,091 --> 00:45:06,491
What's interesting to me is
there's some reports of other
people seeing the white van.
901
00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,706
RON:
Yes.
902
00:45:08,836 --> 00:45:10,616
JOE:
It's seen at Jessie's trailer
by two people:
903
00:45:10,751 --> 00:45:13,151
Jason Matthews
and Edward Hitchens.
904
00:45:13,275 --> 00:45:17,105
Right.
They were two witnesses who
did testify for the defense.
905
00:45:17,671 --> 00:45:19,631
Mr. Hitchens testified
906
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,370
that he saw Jessie
near a white van
on August 12th.
907
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:29,639
And Mr. Matthews
saw Jessie get into
a white van.
908
00:45:31,729 --> 00:45:34,299
Wha-what's going on here?
909
00:45:34,427 --> 00:45:36,817
So the common denominator in their story is they both see a white van.
910
00:45:36,951 --> 00:45:38,471
Yes.
911
00:45:38,561 --> 00:45:40,131
So that's interesting.
912
00:45:40,259 --> 00:45:41,609
You know, I think
it's important that Chrystal
go back,
913
00:45:41,695 --> 00:45:43,475
talk to one of these witnesses,
914
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:44,870
and just see if we can
clear some things up.
915
00:45:45,046 --> 00:45:47,826
♪
916
00:45:53,663 --> 00:45:56,583
CHRYSTAL:
I'm headed
to Jason Matthews' residence.
917
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:59,670
He's the witness
that testified during trial
918
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,720
that he saw a white van
the day Jessie was killed.
919
00:46:03,848 --> 00:46:06,198
I do want to narrow
down the time frame,
920
00:46:06,328 --> 00:46:09,588
and he lives right next door
to the--
921
00:46:09,723 --> 00:46:12,033
Jessie and Gary's trailer park.
922
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,690
So I think Jason Matthews
is a very key witness.
923
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:18,690
♪
924
00:46:24,607 --> 00:46:28,437
Jason, can you show me
where you were sitting
925
00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:31,008
the day you saw Jessie
on August 12th?
926
00:46:33,181 --> 00:46:34,181
Show me.
927
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:36,580
- The brown chair?
- Yup.
928
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,280
Go ahead and sit in the chair
like you were sitting.
929
00:46:45,498 --> 00:46:48,148
Is this where you usually sit
to watch the cars pass by?
930
00:46:52,113 --> 00:46:52,903
Okay.
931
00:46:54,812 --> 00:46:56,512
Jason,
932
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:59,989
do you remember seeing
Jessie come out of her home?
933
00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:08,776
Okay.
934
00:47:08,913 --> 00:47:10,523
And you believe
it was around 5:30?
935
00:47:12,742 --> 00:47:14,792
Do you know anything special
about the van?
936
00:47:14,919 --> 00:47:15,749
Was it a new van?
937
00:47:18,226 --> 00:47:19,616
Do you know
what color the van was?
938
00:47:21,273 --> 00:47:23,143
♪
939
00:47:23,275 --> 00:47:25,755
CHRYSTAL: Jason, he does have hearing issues.
940
00:47:25,886 --> 00:47:29,016
His speech is affected by that,
941
00:47:29,150 --> 00:47:32,110
but nothing at all wrong
with his sight.
942
00:47:32,197 --> 00:47:34,367
I do think Jason's
telling the truth.
943
00:47:35,243 --> 00:47:37,813
If he saw Jessie getting
into the white van at 5:30,
944
00:47:37,942 --> 00:47:41,902
that leads us to believe
that Jessie was alive
at 5:30 p.m.
945
00:47:42,033 --> 00:47:44,863
That would be long after
Jessie borrows Vonda's car
to go pay bills.
946
00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:49,650
Jessie's deceased body
was discovered
947
00:47:49,779 --> 00:47:52,999
at approximately 7:30,
948
00:47:53,131 --> 00:47:55,871
and I believe it's about
a 40-minute drive
949
00:47:56,003 --> 00:47:59,183
from Vonda's residence
to Sharon's residence.
950
00:48:00,442 --> 00:48:02,622
If Vonda committed the crime,
951
00:48:02,705 --> 00:48:05,315
she would have had just
an hour and 20 minutes,
952
00:48:05,447 --> 00:48:07,487
and then she's got to clean up.
953
00:48:07,623 --> 00:48:10,503
You've gotta dispose
of evidence.
954
00:48:10,626 --> 00:48:15,066
It could create a problem
with placing Vonda
955
00:48:15,196 --> 00:48:18,586
in the timeline,
killing Jessie Morrison.
956
00:48:18,678 --> 00:48:20,898
♪
957
00:48:21,028 --> 00:48:24,158
But we've got a lot more
leads to exhaust.
958
00:48:27,165 --> 00:48:30,425
♪
959
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,649
IRA:
Two months after
Jessie's murder,
960
00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:34,739
Vonda started doing
her own investigation.
961
00:48:34,868 --> 00:48:36,088
She started looking
for the white van.
962
00:49:33,883 --> 00:49:35,153
[ sobs ]
963
00:49:36,712 --> 00:49:38,062
[ crying ]
964
00:49:45,721 --> 00:49:50,381
[ sobbing ]
965
00:49:52,728 --> 00:49:54,638
[ crying ]
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