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Come play Mommy's guitar. 3 00:00:57,457 --> 00:00:59,550 - You wanna play guitar? - Yeah. 4 00:00:59,592 --> 00:01:01,753 You wanna play? 5 00:01:09,269 --> 00:01:10,759 "It's too bad, really. 6 00:01:10,804 --> 00:01:12,567 I loved listening to the Dixie Chicks. 7 00:01:12,605 --> 00:01:14,300 I love their music. 8 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:15,932 Even this new angry song is good." 9 00:01:18,311 --> 00:01:19,505 Who is this? 10 00:01:19,546 --> 00:01:21,104 Rightwingsparkle blog. 11 00:01:21,147 --> 00:01:22,842 Sparkle! 12 00:01:22,882 --> 00:01:25,180 "Country music is a 90% Bush-supporting bunch. 13 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:27,118 These lamebrains are talented, sure, 14 00:01:27,153 --> 00:01:30,088 but they're sticking a finger in the eye of their own customer." 15 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:31,647 "Dixie Chicks? Are they still around? 16 00:01:31,691 --> 00:01:33,921 I thought their 15 minutes were up a long time ago." 17 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:35,325 Oh! 18 00:01:35,361 --> 00:01:37,352 I'm not gonna read the next line. 19 00:01:37,397 --> 00:01:38,887 - Come on! - No no no no... 20 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:40,422 - We don't get our feelings hurt. - No no no no. 21 00:01:40,467 --> 00:01:42,128 "Who are the Dixie Chicks, anyway? 22 00:01:42,168 --> 00:01:44,796 I mean, they're not like an important band 23 00:01:44,838 --> 00:01:47,363 where you know all their names, like the Beatles. 24 00:01:47,407 --> 00:01:50,376 The Dixie Chicks suck. They don't know what they're talking about 25 00:01:50,410 --> 00:01:51,934 and should shut the fuck up." 26 00:02:17,504 --> 00:02:20,667 It's easy for people to feel a sense of anonymity 27 00:02:20,707 --> 00:02:22,231 behind their computer 28 00:02:22,275 --> 00:02:24,243 and write ugly things and hateful things. 29 00:02:24,277 --> 00:02:27,474 And, you know, a lot of that stuff you don't take seriously, 30 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:31,245 but when somebody hates you so much for what you say 31 00:02:31,284 --> 00:02:33,548 that they want to kill you... 32 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:43,220 I think if you walked out on the street right now 33 00:02:43,263 --> 00:02:46,528 and asked, "What did Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks say?" 34 00:02:46,566 --> 00:02:48,898 I don't believe that they would know what I said. 35 00:02:50,069 --> 00:02:52,697 But it is a part of... 36 00:02:52,739 --> 00:02:55,572 who we are as a band now, 37 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:59,135 whether we asked for it or wanted it or like it. 38 00:03:01,314 --> 00:03:03,077 I feel like... 39 00:03:03,116 --> 00:03:05,380 people relate to us because we're real. 40 00:03:05,418 --> 00:03:08,410 And when you're real, you stick your foot in your mouth sometimes. 41 00:03:08,454 --> 00:03:11,184 People don't understand how tight we are. 42 00:03:11,224 --> 00:03:14,955 We're a sisterhood. We go through the good, the bad and the ugly 43 00:03:14,994 --> 00:03:19,693 all together. 44 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:33,603 Ladies and gentlemen, Grammy Award winners, 45 00:03:33,646 --> 00:03:35,238 the Dixie Chicks. 46 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:49,759 The Dixie Chicks are returning to the road 47 00:03:49,796 --> 00:03:51,991 on their "Top of the World" tour 48 00:03:52,031 --> 00:03:54,556 which kicks off in London on March 10. 49 00:03:54,601 --> 00:03:57,434 And after only three albums, the Dixie Chicks 50 00:03:57,470 --> 00:04:00,234 are now the best-selling female group in history. 51 00:04:02,508 --> 00:04:04,237 The Dixie Chicks' music 52 00:04:04,277 --> 00:04:07,610 is rooted in tradition but, just like the Dixie Chicks 53 00:04:07,647 --> 00:04:10,844 are redefining the traditional conventions of country music, 54 00:04:10,883 --> 00:04:14,148 we're going to redefine tea and serve it up in a way that's new, 55 00:04:14,187 --> 00:04:16,781 full of energy and, frankly, is really refreshing. 56 00:04:16,823 --> 00:04:20,156 So, Lipton is proud to be the official beverage sponsor 57 00:04:20,193 --> 00:04:24,129 of the Dixie Chicks' 2003 "Top of the World" tour. 58 00:04:31,237 --> 00:04:34,297 USA! USA! USA! 59 00:04:47,186 --> 00:04:48,175 Go for it. 60 00:04:48,221 --> 00:04:51,657 Hi, I'm Simon Renshaw. I'm the Dixie Chicks' manager. 61 00:04:51,691 --> 00:04:54,023 And I just thought I'd take this opportunity 62 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:56,494 to say hello to all of you 63 00:04:56,529 --> 00:04:58,121 and welcome you to the tour. 64 00:04:58,164 --> 00:05:00,462 And we're looking forward to a good one. 65 00:05:05,772 --> 00:05:08,138 - Who's online? - I am. 66 00:05:08,174 --> 00:05:11,166 What's the war update? 67 00:05:11,210 --> 00:05:12,802 Richard? 68 00:05:12,845 --> 00:05:15,507 They're moving troops but they haven't crossed yet. 69 00:05:17,917 --> 00:05:20,181 Army units are now moving into positions 70 00:05:20,219 --> 00:05:22,551 at the border, battle-ready. 71 00:05:22,588 --> 00:05:26,581 The feeling here-- war may be only hours away. 72 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:28,753 Calling them facts and not assertions, 73 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:30,763 US Secretary of State Colin Powell today 74 00:05:30,797 --> 00:05:32,697 presented what he says is evidence 75 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:35,860 that Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction. 76 00:05:35,902 --> 00:05:38,166 Simply stated, there is no doubt 77 00:05:38,204 --> 00:05:41,901 that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. 78 00:05:41,941 --> 00:05:44,603 We know they have weapons of mass destruction. 79 00:05:44,644 --> 00:05:46,669 We know they have active programs. 80 00:05:46,713 --> 00:05:49,045 There-- there isn't any debate about it. 81 00:05:49,082 --> 00:05:52,017 The danger is clear. Using chemical, biological 82 00:05:52,051 --> 00:05:53,575 or, one day, nuclear weapons 83 00:05:53,619 --> 00:05:55,280 obtained with the help of Iraq, 84 00:05:55,321 --> 00:05:58,586 the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions. 85 00:05:58,624 --> 00:06:01,889 Saddam Hussein and his sons 86 00:06:01,928 --> 00:06:04,692 must leave Iraq within 48 hours. 87 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:07,529 How's it looking? Are you sure it's not too much? 88 00:06:07,567 --> 00:06:10,035 - No. - Hmm. 89 00:06:10,069 --> 00:06:12,697 Okay, let's walk. We've gotta go. Can I have someone take her baby? 90 00:06:12,739 --> 00:06:15,264 Martie, we've gotta hit the stage. 91 00:06:15,308 --> 00:06:18,300 - Martie, we've gotta go. - Grab Martie, let's go. 92 00:06:18,344 --> 00:06:20,744 Behind the growing buildup to war 93 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:23,544 there's also a growing antiwar movement. 94 00:06:23,583 --> 00:06:27,485 This may have been the biggest political rally in UK history. 95 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,956 Perhaps as many as a million people converged on the center of London 96 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:34,721 to march and denounce American plans for war. 97 00:07:44,363 --> 00:07:47,821 You know what? For a first show, it was awesome. 98 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:49,835 It was definitely mission accomplished. 99 00:07:49,869 --> 00:07:51,700 Audience loved it, 100 00:07:51,737 --> 00:07:52,795 it looked great. 101 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:55,364 You know, one down, 99 to go. 102 00:07:59,812 --> 00:08:02,246 If you want to feel some good old-fashioned American pride, 103 00:08:02,281 --> 00:08:05,216 look no further than the uproar over the Dixie Chicks. 104 00:08:05,251 --> 00:08:08,379 And how they can say, 'I'm ashamed that the president's from Texas'? 105 00:08:08,421 --> 00:08:10,855 Come on, man. That's crazy. 106 00:08:10,890 --> 00:08:13,381 The comment was quoted by London newspaper "The Guardian." 107 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:16,918 In a matter of days, the London story was picked up by the Associated Press 108 00:08:16,963 --> 00:08:19,796 and printed in newspapers all over the United States. 109 00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:22,323 Personally, I hope you don't play their music again 110 00:08:22,368 --> 00:08:24,836 for quite a while. I think that was very disrespectful. 111 00:08:24,871 --> 00:08:27,305 Natalie's comment, especially on foreign soil, 112 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:28,932 just was a slap in the face. 113 00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:32,911 The American media is picking up from the-- from the-- 114 00:08:32,945 --> 00:08:34,742 from the UK media, 115 00:08:34,780 --> 00:08:37,772 you know, "Dixie Chicks diss the President" kind of thing. 116 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:39,307 Everyone's calling. 117 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:41,081 Everyone's looking for the statement. 118 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,352 And the area of concern is actually what's coming out of country radio, 119 00:08:45,391 --> 00:08:48,554 which is a far more right-wing Conservative-- 120 00:08:48,594 --> 00:08:50,892 Really? 121 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:53,023 - Uh, yeah, that's right. - Yeah. 122 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:54,930 So what I just did was, I just closed down 123 00:08:54,967 --> 00:08:57,299 both the websites, all right? 124 00:08:57,336 --> 00:08:58,928 - Oh my God! - Hold on, hold on. 125 00:08:58,971 --> 00:09:01,030 - Just let me-- - Was the chat room a part of it? 126 00:09:01,073 --> 00:09:02,938 - Closed. - Both of the chat rooms? 127 00:09:02,975 --> 00:09:04,943 Yeah, so the idea is 128 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:07,104 we need to put a statement up on the website. 129 00:09:07,146 --> 00:09:09,444 And in terms of the American media, 130 00:09:09,482 --> 00:09:11,814 we need to have a statement to release to the American media. 131 00:09:11,851 --> 00:09:15,309 What if you just go something like, you know, 132 00:09:15,354 --> 00:09:17,652 "I apologize. We were 133 00:09:17,690 --> 00:09:20,818 at a smoky bar gig and I got a little carried away." 134 00:09:20,860 --> 00:09:22,919 You know, play it down instead of... 135 00:09:22,962 --> 00:09:24,589 But it's more serious than that. 136 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:27,258 - ..."This is what we really--" - It is more serious than that. 137 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:29,996 But it was meant-- it was amidst kind of a joking thing. 138 00:09:30,036 --> 00:09:33,403 But it was true. Here's 139 00:09:33,439 --> 00:09:37,136 We have never been-- or "I"-- if y'all don't want to keep saying "we." 140 00:09:37,176 --> 00:09:39,371 It should be "we." 141 00:09:39,412 --> 00:09:41,903 - Sorry... - Sorry, girls, but it should be "we." 142 00:09:41,948 --> 00:09:43,848 Well, if anybody asks me personally, 143 00:09:43,883 --> 00:09:46,647 I'm gonna go, "Hey, I didn't say it. Go talk to her." 144 00:09:46,686 --> 00:09:48,313 Thanks for the support. 145 00:09:48,354 --> 00:09:50,822 No, but I'm not gonna try to dig you out. 146 00:09:50,856 --> 00:09:53,620 I mean, I would end up saying something totally wrong. 147 00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:59,425 Like, I would like to say that my comment was made... 148 00:09:59,465 --> 00:10:00,591 In reference to-- 149 00:10:00,633 --> 00:10:03,693 ...in reference to the disappointment I feel-- 150 00:10:03,736 --> 00:10:06,500 - or the something I feel-- - Frustration. 151 00:10:06,539 --> 00:10:10,134 --the frustration I feel as an American citizen 152 00:10:10,176 --> 00:10:11,837 for being ignored. 153 00:10:11,877 --> 00:10:15,745 All right, so-- I mean, I don't think that we should shy away 154 00:10:15,781 --> 00:10:17,305 from controversy. 155 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:19,215 I mean, so-- I mean, wouldn't it be great 156 00:10:19,251 --> 00:10:22,516 if we could get them, like, burning CDs 157 00:10:22,555 --> 00:10:24,648 and banning you from the radio... 158 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:28,552 We're gonna boycott them for their music 159 00:10:28,594 --> 00:10:32,189 and we're gonna boycott you for playing it if you don't stop playing it. 160 00:10:32,231 --> 00:10:34,495 Well, ma'am, that was the last one you're gonna hear. 161 00:10:34,533 --> 00:10:36,797 The Chicks' number-one hit "Travelin' Soldier" 162 00:10:36,836 --> 00:10:38,895 quickly fell from the top of the charts. 163 00:10:38,938 --> 00:10:41,463 They had the hottest song in the country. 164 00:10:41,507 --> 00:10:43,634 All this stuff started, and it died. 165 00:10:52,351 --> 00:10:54,012 We've never been a political band 166 00:10:54,053 --> 00:10:56,021 and now we're thrown into the middle of this 167 00:10:56,055 --> 00:10:57,647 political whirlwind. 168 00:10:57,690 --> 00:10:59,817 The radio station set up these garbage cans 169 00:10:59,859 --> 00:11:02,487 for people to come by and throw out their CDs. 170 00:11:02,528 --> 00:11:04,655 I liked them, you know, 171 00:11:04,697 --> 00:11:06,494 but for what they said, it's trash. 172 00:11:11,737 --> 00:11:13,864 They didn't only whack "Traveling Soldier," 173 00:11:13,906 --> 00:11:15,931 they whacked all the play. 174 00:11:15,975 --> 00:11:18,500 You've been really targeted by a couple of groups out there. 175 00:11:18,544 --> 00:11:20,239 I mean, you've been really targeted. 176 00:11:23,115 --> 00:11:24,946 American bombers dropped a series 177 00:11:24,984 --> 00:11:27,111 of 1000-lb bombs on the compound. 178 00:11:27,153 --> 00:11:29,951 Now who was the one who talked about the war? 179 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:31,547 - Do you regret it? - The thing is, 180 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:33,717 it wasn't even a political statement. 181 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:37,388 It was a joke made to get cheers and applause 182 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:39,591 and to entertain. And it did. 183 00:11:39,632 --> 00:11:41,759 But it didn't entertain America. 184 00:11:43,636 --> 00:11:46,230 Some protestors used a tractor and their feet 185 00:11:46,272 --> 00:11:48,467 to smash the group's CDs. 186 00:11:50,109 --> 00:11:51,701 Martie, have you talked to Mom? 187 00:11:51,744 --> 00:11:53,268 No. I left a message 188 00:11:53,312 --> 00:11:56,110 and then I was sick all day so I didn't call her again. 189 00:11:56,148 --> 00:11:58,343 And I think that's all she wants to hear from us-- 190 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:00,443 is how much we know it's affecting her. 191 00:12:00,486 --> 00:12:03,512 The people who got it all started 192 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:06,753 was a right-wing group called the Free Republic. 193 00:12:06,792 --> 00:12:10,228 An extreme right-wing group for their own political reasons 194 00:12:10,262 --> 00:12:12,560 are attempting to manipulate the American media, 195 00:12:12,598 --> 00:12:14,156 and the American media is falling for it. 196 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,691 The Free Republic is very well organized. 197 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,795 There's definitely a Free Republic hit list 198 00:12:18,838 --> 00:12:21,363 with all of the radio stations they're trying to affect. 199 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,466 And they are totally focused. 200 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:25,500 And the girls are gonna get whacked. 201 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:27,603 Good morning. 61 Country. 202 00:12:27,646 --> 00:12:29,273 They should send Natalie over to Iraq, 203 00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:32,148 strap her to a bomb and just drop her over Baghdad. 204 00:12:32,184 --> 00:12:35,642 A million things have really pissed me off about it. 205 00:12:35,688 --> 00:12:38,179 And I'm ready to go home and set the record straight. 206 00:12:50,469 --> 00:12:53,336 It's not about, necessarily, our point of view. 207 00:12:53,372 --> 00:12:55,704 The story's how out of hand it's gotten, isn't it? 208 00:12:55,741 --> 00:12:56,833 The-- the issue's not that-- 209 00:12:56,876 --> 00:13:00,073 what-- what has happened is that the issue is not what was said. 210 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:02,080 It's how it's being reported 211 00:13:02,114 --> 00:13:04,378 and how it's been turned into something that it's not. 212 00:13:04,416 --> 00:13:06,509 - It's snowballed. - It's all about 213 00:13:06,552 --> 00:13:07,951 you were not patriotic. It's got 214 00:13:07,987 --> 00:13:10,512 - nothing to do with what was said. - We're not making excuses. 215 00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:14,287 - We're not making excuses for beliefs. - Because she didn't show support 216 00:13:14,326 --> 00:13:16,351 - for the president. - It doesn't matter-- 217 00:13:16,395 --> 00:13:18,693 - Support for the troops. - It doesn't matter what was said. 218 00:13:18,731 --> 00:13:20,221 - No, that's-- - But that's bullshit! 219 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:23,633 That's bullshit! Who has my statement? They take what they want. 220 00:13:23,669 --> 00:13:26,137 - Exactly! - Correct. That's the point. 221 00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:28,037 - I already said I'm patriotic. - Absolutely. 222 00:13:28,073 --> 00:13:29,938 - In my statement, I said I'm patriotic. - Exactly. 223 00:13:29,975 --> 00:13:30,964 In my statement, 224 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:32,534 - I said I support the troops. - Exactly. 225 00:13:32,578 --> 00:13:34,910 But I don't support the troops and I'm not patriotic? 226 00:13:34,947 --> 00:13:37,006 - Exactly, so... - There you go. 227 00:13:37,049 --> 00:13:39,040 - That's exactly it. - That's it! 228 00:13:39,084 --> 00:13:41,882 Look, hang on, let's start by looking at some research, 229 00:13:41,921 --> 00:13:44,446 because one of the things that was very interesting 230 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:47,015 when Lipton brought Michael's company in was-- 231 00:13:47,059 --> 00:13:48,651 Was Lipton about to pull out? 232 00:13:48,694 --> 00:13:50,889 Uh, I think Lipton is concerned. 233 00:13:50,930 --> 00:13:54,229 They are looking for a reason to do it. 234 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:56,257 Everybody on the Lipton team 235 00:13:56,302 --> 00:13:59,999 is saying, "Give us a reason to go forward." 236 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:03,372 I think part of the reason that they brought me to you guys 237 00:14:03,409 --> 00:14:05,570 is to help you manage through this, 238 00:14:05,611 --> 00:14:07,306 because at the end of the day, 239 00:14:07,346 --> 00:14:10,247 while you're great musicians, you are a brand. 240 00:14:10,282 --> 00:14:12,614 And if somehow your brand 241 00:14:12,651 --> 00:14:15,449 is-- is-- now has issues circulating around it, 242 00:14:15,487 --> 00:14:17,751 you know, do they want do take that sort of risk? 243 00:14:17,790 --> 00:14:20,782 I-- I personally... 244 00:14:20,826 --> 00:14:22,726 think we should let Lipton off the hook, 245 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:25,252 saying, "We're backing out because, you know, 246 00:14:25,297 --> 00:14:26,992 we don't want to hurt their product" 247 00:14:27,032 --> 00:14:29,000 and that's it. 248 00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:31,628 But that's a whole other story. To me, that's-- that's what 249 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:33,535 - snowballs. We've been away. - Right. 250 00:14:33,572 --> 00:14:36,132 People have not been able to see our faces, 251 00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:38,609 hear our words. To me, that is the greatest advantage 252 00:14:38,644 --> 00:14:42,136 of doing an interview-- is that we-- I feel like we are endearing people. 253 00:14:42,181 --> 00:14:44,308 - Absolutely. - I feel like we will win people over 254 00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:47,717 just by sitting there and looking-- saying honest things. 255 00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:49,846 It's fine. I think this is better for our career. 256 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,447 I think we've gotten more attention 257 00:14:51,490 --> 00:14:53,355 than we ever were going to get. 258 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:55,622 We were never gonna be on the cover of "Entertainment Weekly." 259 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,356 We were never gonna be interviewed by Barbara Walters. 260 00:14:57,396 --> 00:14:58,385 75% awareness? 261 00:14:58,430 --> 00:14:59,795 We were never gonna have these people... 262 00:14:59,832 --> 00:15:00,890 It's insane. 263 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:03,458 ...who never even knew who we were, care to listen to our music, listen to it. 264 00:15:03,502 --> 00:15:04,491 But hang on-- 265 00:15:04,536 --> 00:15:06,401 And that's fine. I think when we apologize and we tell, 266 00:15:06,438 --> 00:15:09,771 blah blah blah, then our fans-- and that will all be smoothed out 267 00:15:09,808 --> 00:15:11,833 - and worked out. Do I believe--? - I've got one thing-- 268 00:15:11,877 --> 00:15:15,142 - But I do think this could affect tea-- - Do it on your terms. 269 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:17,808 Don't-- you're reacting to the reaction. 270 00:15:17,850 --> 00:15:20,546 And all I'm saying is, carry on as you want, 271 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:22,850 but do it on your terms. 272 00:15:27,626 --> 00:15:29,958 I think people are gonna say, "Oh my God! 273 00:15:29,995 --> 00:15:31,963 What happened to them?" 274 00:15:31,997 --> 00:15:35,160 - But they say "traitor," so... - It's not we say about ourselves. 275 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,862 - It's what people have imposed on us. - It's what you've been branded. 276 00:15:37,903 --> 00:15:40,235 I-- I'm sorry. I just-- I don't like-- 277 00:15:40,272 --> 00:15:43,799 that is going to be so prominent on the cover 278 00:15:43,842 --> 00:15:47,209 that my concern is the average person isn't gonna get it. 279 00:15:47,246 --> 00:15:50,374 They're gonna be horrified when they see that. 280 00:15:50,416 --> 00:15:52,782 It's not ridiculous to call you opinionated. 281 00:15:52,818 --> 00:15:54,581 It's not ridiculous to call you brave. 282 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:57,748 Like, we've got to show how cruel-- 283 00:15:57,790 --> 00:16:00,384 It's not ridiculous to call you a big mouth. 284 00:16:00,426 --> 00:16:02,291 No, that's true. 285 00:16:02,328 --> 00:16:03,886 Truth hurts. 286 00:16:05,831 --> 00:16:08,299 This is a brilliant artistic shot, 287 00:16:08,334 --> 00:16:11,770 but just to see "Dixie Sluts"-- 288 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,068 - Jesus Christ! - What? 289 00:16:14,106 --> 00:16:18,338 You need something to counterbalance it-- 290 00:16:18,377 --> 00:16:22,074 "Proud American." Yes, they've been branded, but I don't think-- 291 00:16:22,114 --> 00:16:24,514 I think you're giving too much credit to the American public. 292 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:26,245 They're not that smart. 293 00:16:26,285 --> 00:16:28,549 I don't think the average person's gonna get any of it. 294 00:16:28,587 --> 00:16:30,953 Then we're fucked, if that's the case. 295 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,686 Don't-- I-- I'm not-- I'm not gonna go there. 296 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:36,092 This is about fixing it. 297 00:16:36,128 --> 00:16:39,359 Well, that racy magazine cover 298 00:16:39,398 --> 00:16:41,332 on the stands today pretty much sums up 299 00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:42,891 some of the names the Dixie Chicks 300 00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:44,869 are being called in America these days-- 301 00:16:44,903 --> 00:16:48,600 "Traitors," "The Dixie Sluts," "Anti-American"-- 302 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,699 all because of one split-second comment 303 00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,871 aimed at President Bush right before the war with Iraq. 304 00:16:53,912 --> 00:16:57,075 Maines says she was just trying to fire back 305 00:16:57,116 --> 00:16:59,346 when she shot herself in the foot. 306 00:16:59,385 --> 00:17:01,376 She apologized to the president, 307 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:03,615 but it only added fuel to the fire. 308 00:17:03,655 --> 00:17:06,920 We've analyzed the way that Diane Sawyer 309 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,757 and Chris Willman-- what they've done in previous interviews, 310 00:17:09,795 --> 00:17:12,229 and we'll give you some examples. 311 00:17:12,264 --> 00:17:14,198 Uh, it's likely to start 312 00:17:14,233 --> 00:17:16,360 - with a real hard punch. - Absolutely. It will. 313 00:17:16,402 --> 00:17:19,269 You know, what you said and why you said it-- 314 00:17:19,304 --> 00:17:22,432 you know, you don't rehearse what you say in between songs, 315 00:17:22,474 --> 00:17:24,669 and sometimes it doesn't come out 316 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:26,405 the way that you intend it. 317 00:17:26,445 --> 00:17:28,413 I'm not saying I support their commander-in-chief, 318 00:17:28,447 --> 00:17:30,039 but I'll say I support the troops. 319 00:17:30,082 --> 00:17:31,811 That-- that's fine. 320 00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:33,613 But try-- try not to be judgmental 321 00:17:33,652 --> 00:17:35,279 of the president. I'll tell you why: 322 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,515 He's got sky-high approval. 323 00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:39,251 The war couldn't be going better. 324 00:17:39,291 --> 00:17:41,384 By the time this interview airs, 325 00:17:41,427 --> 00:17:43,224 he's likely to be at the highest point. 326 00:17:43,262 --> 00:17:45,321 Remember, this is two weeks out. 327 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:48,424 The looting will be done. The rebuilding of Iraq will be started. 328 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:51,265 Saddam Hussein will most likely be dead or found out. 329 00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:53,032 It-- I'm just telling you, two weeks from now 330 00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:56,235 it's gonna be even a more positive situation. 331 00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:58,300 Are you ashamed that the President of the United States 332 00:17:58,343 --> 00:17:59,810 is from your state? 333 00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:01,938 No, I'm not truly embarrassed 334 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:04,346 that, you know, President Bush is from my state. 335 00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:06,715 That's not really what I care about. 336 00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:08,811 It was the wrong wording. 337 00:18:08,854 --> 00:18:12,312 Am I sorry I said that? Yes. 338 00:18:12,357 --> 00:18:14,587 Am I sorry I spoke out? No. 339 00:18:14,626 --> 00:18:16,753 But you can't tell me that at no point 340 00:18:16,795 --> 00:18:18,524 the two of you, 341 00:18:18,564 --> 00:18:20,589 however much you love her, 342 00:18:20,632 --> 00:18:23,897 however much you understand her-- 343 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,631 that you didn't say, 344 00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:27,536 "Why did she do that? Why did she do that?" 345 00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:29,097 Why can't you say that? 346 00:18:29,141 --> 00:18:31,336 Partially why our audience 347 00:18:31,376 --> 00:18:34,812 has allowed us to get to where we are today 348 00:18:34,847 --> 00:18:38,613 is because they like her the way she is. 349 00:18:40,719 --> 00:18:42,152 Hi. Rudy Blair, 680-News. 350 00:18:42,187 --> 00:18:45,179 I guess I'm gonna have to be the evil one on this one. 351 00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:47,419 I gotta ask, how have things been going 352 00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:49,825 since this whole Bush controversy? 353 00:18:49,862 --> 00:18:52,490 How are things going for you guys now? 354 00:18:52,531 --> 00:18:54,055 Our album sales are definitely down 355 00:18:54,099 --> 00:18:55,726 and we don't get played on the radio. 356 00:18:55,767 --> 00:18:59,100 We heard they've turned what happened to us into a verb. 357 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,969 You can get "Dixie-Chicked." 358 00:19:01,006 --> 00:19:04,237 And if we had to be the example, that's fine. 359 00:19:04,276 --> 00:19:06,801 We don't want this to be our legacy. 360 00:19:06,845 --> 00:19:08,710 We want our music to be our legacy. 361 00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:12,012 And one positive with that is it's sort of opened the door for us 362 00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:14,348 to do anything musically that we wanna do now 363 00:19:14,386 --> 00:19:17,753 without feeling any pressures that we have to please, 364 00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:20,986 because we don't really have anyone to answer to, 365 00:19:21,026 --> 00:19:23,017 as far as radio is concerned. 366 00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:47,644 Oh yeah, baby. 367 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:53,585 That's a nice touch. 368 00:20:06,071 --> 00:20:09,905 Doing good. We moved out to LA just for a little while, 369 00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:11,466 just for Emily to have the babies 370 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:13,102 and us to write some music and stuff. 371 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:20,548 Well, first of all, I think there should be some "we's," like... 372 00:20:29,127 --> 00:20:31,254 That's hilarious. 373 00:20:33,131 --> 00:20:36,726 - Wouldn't kiss all the asses... - Oh-ho-ho! 374 00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:38,463 ...that they told me to. 375 00:20:38,503 --> 00:20:39,868 Is that good? 376 00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:42,738 Gave a lot of blowjobs, but wouldn't kiss all the asses? 377 00:20:44,843 --> 00:20:46,777 'Cause you did kiss some ass. 378 00:20:48,347 --> 00:20:50,440 That's good. I don't know if I could sing that, 379 00:20:50,482 --> 00:20:52,609 but if you could, more power to ya. 380 00:20:52,651 --> 00:20:55,279 What-- what about, "I fought with a stranger"? 381 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,016 - Fought with a stranger, yeah. - Kinda like the stranger is Bush. 382 00:20:58,056 --> 00:21:01,617 - It's not-- - Good, Emmie, good! 383 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:03,423 Big money, big money! 384 00:21:17,843 --> 00:21:20,277 I mean, we've never been able to write a whole album of songs. 385 00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:22,303 And when you're writing so much, 386 00:21:22,347 --> 00:21:24,872 you start noticing just things in your everyday life 387 00:21:24,916 --> 00:21:26,474 that are worthy of a song. 388 00:21:26,518 --> 00:21:29,783 And almost anything that isn't written by us, 389 00:21:29,821 --> 00:21:32,688 now, at least on this album, seems a little bit false almost. 390 00:21:32,724 --> 00:21:34,749 This record is, like you said, 391 00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:36,818 our therapy, in a way. 392 00:21:36,862 --> 00:21:38,386 This is what we wanna say. 393 00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:11,686 - That sounded great. - Yeah, come in. 394 00:22:13,065 --> 00:22:15,295 How do y'all-- do y'all all write your songs? 395 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,268 Yeah. I mean, we'll just get in the room 396 00:22:17,302 --> 00:22:19,099 and we'll just jam and improvise. 397 00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:21,867 And something will start from a drumbeat or a bass line... 398 00:22:21,907 --> 00:22:24,102 Does everyone write equally on everything? 399 00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:26,372 - No. - But you split writing equally? 400 00:22:26,411 --> 00:22:27,537 - Yep. - Wow. 401 00:22:27,579 --> 00:22:29,774 I wouldn't feel right if I was... 402 00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:31,180 The guy doing all the-- 403 00:22:31,216 --> 00:22:32,979 ...you know, the bass player or whatever-- 404 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:36,044 I wouldn't feel right taking writing credit or money. 405 00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,955 But he's smart to keep them happy, in a way, 406 00:22:38,990 --> 00:22:40,651 because band members 407 00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:43,217 tend to start resenting the lead singer no matter what 408 00:22:43,261 --> 00:22:45,525 - because they get more attention-- - Oh, really? 409 00:22:45,564 --> 00:22:48,260 No. 410 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:50,097 - In male bands. - Female players-- 411 00:22:50,135 --> 00:22:51,898 I mean, band members... 412 00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:54,235 But you know, it can breed-- 413 00:22:54,272 --> 00:22:56,399 But that's why bands break up, because... 414 00:22:56,441 --> 00:22:57,601 I think so too-- 415 00:22:57,642 --> 00:22:59,542 ...the members of the band start resenting that... 416 00:22:59,578 --> 00:23:01,307 But I'm saying he-- this band could break up 417 00:23:01,346 --> 00:23:03,610 because the lead singer resents. That's what I'm saying. 418 00:23:03,648 --> 00:23:05,377 It's a chemistry thing, you know. 419 00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:08,648 Well, he could go solo. That's the thing that the lead singer 420 00:23:08,687 --> 00:23:10,245 could hang over the band's head. 421 00:23:10,288 --> 00:23:12,256 Yeah. 422 00:23:26,605 --> 00:23:28,937 You know why she picked up the banjo? 423 00:23:28,974 --> 00:23:31,169 Because we all played violin, 424 00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:33,109 and I started playing fiddle 425 00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:35,272 and I was really jealous of her playing the fiddle, 426 00:23:35,313 --> 00:23:37,406 because whatever I would do, she would do better-- 427 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:39,246 - like sports, whatever. - Yeah. 428 00:23:39,284 --> 00:23:41,616 And so when she would play the fiddle, 429 00:23:41,653 --> 00:23:44,349 I'd go in and I'd, like, beat her over the head with my fiddle. 430 00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:48,050 So you drove her to the banjo. 431 00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:50,926 So mean. So I was like, "You have to pick another instrument." 432 00:23:50,962 --> 00:23:52,759 Wow. 433 00:23:52,798 --> 00:23:54,789 I don't know why she picked the banjo. 434 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:56,767 It worked out good. It's a good combo. 435 00:23:56,802 --> 00:23:59,168 Yeah. 436 00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:01,968 Oh, she was just-- oh, just that little sister 437 00:24:02,007 --> 00:24:05,033 that just-- anything you did, she just had to one-up ya. 438 00:24:25,497 --> 00:24:27,158 Check check. 439 00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:31,329 Did we do as long an intro on the real version as we did the demo? Okay. 440 00:24:31,369 --> 00:24:33,963 - Should we try one? - Yeah. 441 00:24:34,005 --> 00:24:35,336 All right, here we go. 442 00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:53,176 - That's incredible. - Thanks. 443 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,209 Now this-- do you wanna know what this is about? 444 00:25:55,253 --> 00:25:57,687 - Sure. - It's about Lubbock, Texas. 445 00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:01,418 I remember there was the line about the statue. 446 00:26:01,459 --> 00:26:02,687 - And Buddy Holly. - Yeah. 447 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:05,992 They hated him when he was a star 448 00:26:06,031 --> 00:26:09,125 and they thought he was evil and rock 'n' roll and, 449 00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:11,499 - you know... - It's Natalie's hometown too. 450 00:26:11,536 --> 00:26:13,561 - And they basically turned-- - Oh, Lubbock? 451 00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:15,402 --the whole city basically turned on her, 452 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,772 and all the radio stations were horrible and... 453 00:26:17,809 --> 00:26:20,334 It's like Buddy Holly all over again. 454 00:26:27,085 --> 00:26:29,952 Seems much more ordinary right off the bat. 455 00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:31,785 Yep. 456 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,387 This line... 457 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:39,397 Good change. 458 00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:46,793 In this chorus, the melody is good. 459 00:26:48,306 --> 00:26:51,571 The chords and the melody are strong. 460 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,771 Do you not like the words? 461 00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:59,473 It's worth pursuing 462 00:26:59,517 --> 00:27:01,451 even though you don't like it. 463 00:27:01,486 --> 00:27:04,353 But I would rewrite all the words. 464 00:27:04,389 --> 00:27:07,119 I think-- I think the pre-chorus and chorus, 465 00:27:07,158 --> 00:27:09,023 musically and melodically, are really strong. 466 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:11,324 I'm just missing a connection to the lyrics. 467 00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:13,092 Just rewrite-- 468 00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:14,655 rewrite 'em for yourself. 469 00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:17,167 Yeah, easy for you to say. 470 00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:19,227 You rewrite. No I'm kidding. 471 00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:21,704 Then you won't feel a connection. 472 00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:24,208 I'm still a little confused. 473 00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:26,938 I'm still having a hard time hearing, 474 00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:30,505 like, our role in some of the songs. 475 00:27:30,548 --> 00:27:32,038 Because at the end of the day, 476 00:27:32,083 --> 00:27:33,607 you know, what's best for the song 477 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:36,985 has to be best for the song. It can't be a forced-- 478 00:27:37,022 --> 00:27:38,580 "Let's slap some fiddle on there 479 00:27:38,623 --> 00:27:40,818 just because I play the fiddle," you know? 480 00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:42,451 I-- I-- at this point, 481 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,359 I-- my interest 482 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:46,728 is just any way we can get great songs, 483 00:27:46,765 --> 00:27:48,460 from any direction. 484 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,024 And then we'll put it through 485 00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:52,400 whatever the Dixie Chicks' filter is gonna become, 486 00:27:52,437 --> 00:27:55,031 which we'll see. It'll-- it's gonna reveal itself 487 00:27:55,073 --> 00:27:57,371 - as we work on the songs. - Mm-hmm. 488 00:28:01,546 --> 00:28:03,411 See, I'm nothing but a glorified lackey... 489 00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:07,082 waiting on her hand and foot. 490 00:28:07,118 --> 00:28:09,552 "I can't believe she made me carry this..." 491 00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:17,688 Oh, sorry. 492 00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:19,356 Uh, was that solo too country? 493 00:28:19,397 --> 00:28:22,025 I like the nut choices. I don't know if that would be one 494 00:28:22,067 --> 00:28:23,466 - but it was good. - I was just kinda-- 495 00:28:23,501 --> 00:28:26,698 That one sort of weird thing you did-- I wish it was more of that. 496 00:28:26,738 --> 00:28:28,228 All right. Got it. 497 00:28:28,273 --> 00:28:30,935 But everything you're doing is awesome. 498 00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:33,273 Quit sucking up. 499 00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:50,523 We did a demo tape for Natalie 500 00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:52,826 for her to get into Berklee School of Music up in Boston. 501 00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:56,823 And I was playing a gig with the Chicks in Dallas or somewhere, 502 00:28:56,868 --> 00:28:58,460 and I just gave 'em a cassette. 503 00:28:58,503 --> 00:29:01,438 You know, it wasn't really pitching her at all. It was just like, "Hey, 504 00:29:01,473 --> 00:29:03,771 check this out. It's my daughter." 505 00:29:03,808 --> 00:29:05,901 I think it was about a year before they even heard it. 506 00:29:05,944 --> 00:29:08,640 I mean, they kind of left it in their motor home-- 507 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,944 the pink motor home that you hear about. 508 00:29:10,982 --> 00:29:13,780 But, apparently, Martie and Emily must have kept it in the back of their minds, 509 00:29:13,818 --> 00:29:16,514 and when they decided to change lead singers, 510 00:29:16,554 --> 00:29:18,146 they called about Natalie. 511 00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:27,965 That was an incredible song, man. 512 00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:29,057 Oh, good. 513 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,897 You just blew everybody else off the record. 514 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:33,833 I was barely trying. 515 00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:40,839 I met the Chicks in 1994. 516 00:29:43,248 --> 00:29:45,307 There they were, and they had their hair really big, 517 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:47,181 and they had the hoop dresses on 518 00:29:47,218 --> 00:29:49,345 and the spangles and the cowboy hats. 519 00:29:49,387 --> 00:29:52,413 And they went on stage and they performed these songs 520 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,015 which were pretty bad-- 521 00:29:54,058 --> 00:29:56,083 basically, Western swing, 522 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:59,392 very old-fashioned, very not contemporary. 523 00:29:59,430 --> 00:30:01,091 But the one thing that was very very clear 524 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:03,362 was that they were three beautiful girls, 525 00:30:03,401 --> 00:30:05,961 and incredibly talented, and they could really play. 526 00:30:06,004 --> 00:30:10,304 And if they had a willingness to kind of like change direction, 527 00:30:10,341 --> 00:30:14,402 moving more into a contemporary country music space, 528 00:30:14,445 --> 00:30:18,176 there actually could be a really interesting slot for them. 529 00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:20,810 We had to go out, we had to find the right material 530 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:23,787 and we had to develop it into something new. 531 00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:27,189 But anytime the girls say to me, 532 00:30:27,225 --> 00:30:29,921 "You know what, Simon? We can't believe 533 00:30:29,961 --> 00:30:31,690 that you booked us here. 534 00:30:31,729 --> 00:30:33,560 How could you have let that happen?" 535 00:30:33,598 --> 00:30:35,589 I go, "How could I have let that happen? 536 00:30:35,633 --> 00:30:39,433 Just remember who booked this show"-- 537 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:43,065 oh, yes. This is 1996. 538 00:30:43,107 --> 00:30:45,598 This is the Pillsbury Bake-Off. 539 00:30:45,643 --> 00:30:48,441 And that's in the-- which department is this in? 540 00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:51,710 Oh, that's the produce department they're playing in-- 541 00:30:51,749 --> 00:30:55,651 a fantastic booking, one that I had nothing to do with. 542 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:58,053 The girls handled this all by themselves. 543 00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:04,554 Could it be something about 544 00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:07,360 maybe the fear of losing that one person 545 00:31:07,398 --> 00:31:10,765 that you know you can go to, 546 00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:13,293 and sort of your salvation, 547 00:31:13,338 --> 00:31:15,101 or your sanity? 548 00:31:17,008 --> 00:31:20,842 - Oh, hi! - Hi! 549 00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:23,973 I missed you! I missed you. 550 00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:28,950 He looks so big. I haven't seen you in so long. 551 00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:32,383 You look so different. 552 00:31:32,423 --> 00:31:34,152 You look like more of a boy. 553 00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:38,492 You look like you've been eating nothing but ribs and Cheetos with Dada. 554 00:31:38,529 --> 00:31:41,123 Gussie, what's in Mommy's belly? 555 00:31:41,165 --> 00:31:43,565 What's in Mom-- What's in Mommy's tummy? 556 00:31:43,601 --> 00:31:46,069 - Whales. - Whales. 557 00:31:46,104 --> 00:31:47,230 - Two of 'em! - Whales! 558 00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:49,331 No, Mommy's as big as a whale. 559 00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:51,638 Take it-- yeah, I'm-- he calls me "Shamu." 560 00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:53,473 Is there a baby in there? 561 00:31:53,511 --> 00:31:57,003 Are there babies-- are there babies in there? 562 00:31:57,048 --> 00:31:59,243 - What about babies? - What about babies? 563 00:32:00,318 --> 00:32:01,842 I love you. 564 00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:10,588 - So how you feeling? - Uh, just ready. 565 00:32:10,628 --> 00:32:12,323 - Soon. - Very ready. 566 00:32:12,363 --> 00:32:15,161 All right, guys. This is-- whoo! 567 00:32:15,199 --> 00:32:16,860 - There. - Scariness. 568 00:32:16,901 --> 00:32:18,459 Let's go peek. 569 00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:21,831 I think-- obviously, before we got married, 570 00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:23,670 we knew we wanted children. 571 00:32:25,743 --> 00:32:28,109 But then, you know, all of a sudden, we start trying, 572 00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:29,613 and nothing's happening. 573 00:32:29,647 --> 00:32:32,047 You know, you start to get a little nervous. 574 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:35,780 It was about two and a half years of just nothing, 575 00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:38,152 and going through fertility treatments-- 576 00:32:38,189 --> 00:32:40,714 everything from artificial insemination 577 00:32:40,758 --> 00:32:43,386 all the way to what eventually ended up being in vitro. 578 00:32:43,428 --> 00:32:44,520 Tell me if something hurts. 579 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:57,271 - Does that work? - Sorry, I went to the wrong note. 580 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,010 My sister and I both went through in vitro. 581 00:33:05,049 --> 00:33:07,347 Emily started trying first and, 582 00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:10,843 oh, I watched her do it all. And it just went on and on. 583 00:33:10,888 --> 00:33:13,755 It's an expensive process. It's hard on your body 584 00:33:13,791 --> 00:33:15,554 with all the hormones, all the injections. 585 00:33:15,593 --> 00:33:19,620 You have to take a lot of drugs and alter your cycle, 586 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,633 alter your chemistry in a lot of ways. 587 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,862 - And it's a huge deal. - Yeah, but we just assumed 588 00:33:24,902 --> 00:33:27,234 that we would get pregnant straightaway. 589 00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:28,795 - We were like, "Okay..." - Yeah, 590 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,502 but when Emily started having problems, I started thinking 591 00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:33,237 it could happen to us. 592 00:33:40,485 --> 00:33:43,010 But we were very lucky, very fortunate. 593 00:33:43,054 --> 00:33:45,181 We just did in vitro and it worked. 594 00:33:45,223 --> 00:33:47,453 Hi! 595 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,620 We knew there was a 30% chance of having twins. 596 00:33:52,663 --> 00:33:55,131 We went in and he did the sonogram and, 597 00:33:55,166 --> 00:33:58,135 just very nonchalant and calm, just goes, 598 00:33:58,169 --> 00:34:00,603 "Well, there's the heartbeat." And we were all excited. 599 00:34:00,638 --> 00:34:03,630 And then he moved it over and said, "And there's the other one." 600 00:34:03,674 --> 00:34:07,201 And Gareth and I just... screamed. 601 00:34:07,245 --> 00:34:08,678 He said, "Don't scream, don't scream," 602 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,374 like I was gonna hurt the baby. 603 00:34:31,302 --> 00:34:34,794 Okay, how's she feeling? 604 00:34:34,839 --> 00:34:37,433 She's comfortable. She's had her epidural. 605 00:34:37,475 --> 00:34:40,933 And her contractions are moving, you know, slowly along. 606 00:34:40,978 --> 00:34:43,242 There's not much progression. 607 00:34:43,281 --> 00:34:45,442 - There's not much going on. - Does she want magazines? 608 00:34:45,483 --> 00:34:48,543 Does she have the "US Weekly" with Brad and Angelina? 609 00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:50,178 They're on. 610 00:34:57,161 --> 00:34:59,959 Oh, there's you. I was like, "God, that looks like Natalie." 611 00:34:59,997 --> 00:35:02,625 Ew, I was hoping that didn't wind up... 612 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:04,191 Why? You look good. 613 00:35:04,235 --> 00:35:07,068 And Emily looks skinnier than me. 614 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:10,131 Emily could use a little eye makeup. 615 00:35:10,174 --> 00:35:12,039 I could use a lot of everything. 616 00:35:12,076 --> 00:35:13,873 Oh, ew! 617 00:35:13,911 --> 00:35:16,141 Ew! 618 00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:18,205 Look how big my boobs look. 619 00:35:18,249 --> 00:35:20,012 They've done something. 620 00:35:20,051 --> 00:35:22,645 - Bill Maher's tomorrow night, right? - Yep. 621 00:35:22,687 --> 00:35:24,917 But Bill Maher has been pissing me off. 622 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:26,617 - I know. He is so-- - Unfortunately, 623 00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:28,420 I agree with him. I'd rather-- 624 00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:31,053 - See, I don't. - I'd rather it go well in Iraq 625 00:35:31,095 --> 00:35:32,585 and then they be right... 626 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,564 No, I know that, but let's back up 627 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:37,193 to "We should not be there." 628 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:39,726 Of course, now that we're there-- yes, make the best of it. 629 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:41,397 But we should not be there. 630 00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:43,964 It was still such lies and bullshit. 631 00:35:44,008 --> 00:35:45,600 She's having a baby, by the way. 632 00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:47,838 The kids are, like, listening to what we're talking about. 633 00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:49,608 It's like, "I ain't fucking going out there." 634 00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:02,392 Oh... Oh, two of 'em. 635 00:36:02,426 --> 00:36:05,224 What am I gonna do with two? 636 00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:14,662 Sore nipples are on the way. 637 00:36:21,612 --> 00:36:23,273 They are so beautiful. 638 00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:37,693 Say, "We squeezed before, we can squeeze again," right? 639 00:37:23,074 --> 00:37:25,338 I think now that we're making music again, 640 00:37:25,376 --> 00:37:27,503 I'd really be sad 641 00:37:27,545 --> 00:37:29,877 if this didn't have-- 642 00:37:29,914 --> 00:37:32,712 - if it didn't get heard... - An audience. 643 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:37,016 ...and we couldn't continue our careers effortlessly as we have in the past. 644 00:37:37,054 --> 00:37:39,852 I mean, it's just been a way of life, part of our life. 645 00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:43,417 Emily and I started in a band when we were very young. 646 00:37:43,461 --> 00:37:44,621 I started when I was 12, 647 00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:47,028 and then she joined the band I was in when she was 10. 648 00:37:47,064 --> 00:37:49,760 And the Dixie Chicks started in 1989. 649 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,133 I mean, this is more than just a job. 650 00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:57,231 This is a lifestyle. It's-- it's part of our lives. 651 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,209 So I think-- just recently 652 00:37:59,243 --> 00:38:01,575 I've thought, 653 00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:05,480 "God, I just really hope we can get our career back on track. 654 00:38:05,516 --> 00:38:07,108 'Cause I need it." 655 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,913 I thought it was probably a good idea 656 00:38:09,987 --> 00:38:12,455 for us to start talking about 657 00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:16,017 what a schedule might look like for the next couple of years. 658 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:18,221 What's your strategy on, 659 00:38:18,262 --> 00:38:20,730 like, wooing MTV and VH1 and...? 660 00:38:20,765 --> 00:38:23,859 VH1 will-- VH1 will gladly air your videos. 661 00:38:23,901 --> 00:38:25,926 MTV's not your-- you're outside-- 662 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,870 you're too old for where MTV is at. 663 00:38:27,905 --> 00:38:29,736 We're too old? 664 00:38:29,774 --> 00:38:31,605 You're just too old. 665 00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:33,576 Even if we get cool, we're too old already? 666 00:38:33,611 --> 00:38:35,044 You're still too old already. 667 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,071 Can't I-- can't I sort of lead them? 668 00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:40,276 - I'm not old yet. - Hey, you're 30 now. 669 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,718 - You're in the same bracket. - You're too old. 670 00:38:42,753 --> 00:38:43,845 Shit. 671 00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:46,356 To be honest with you, I'm not sure yet 672 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:49,587 what method we're using to get music out there. 673 00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:51,458 - I mean, the traditional-- - You don't want a single 674 00:38:51,495 --> 00:38:53,759 - before the end of the year? - Well, the traditional method is-- 675 00:38:53,798 --> 00:38:56,926 is you take a cut off the album and you service it to radio. 676 00:38:56,967 --> 00:38:59,731 Right? But we've got to assume right now 677 00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:02,933 that, you know, we're not dealing with the country format. 678 00:39:02,973 --> 00:39:06,340 I think you still let Sony do what they want there. 679 00:39:06,377 --> 00:39:08,538 - We just aren't involved. - I don't. I don't. 680 00:39:08,579 --> 00:39:10,740 You release the single; 681 00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:13,875 they play it; the campaign starts up again-- 682 00:39:13,918 --> 00:39:15,886 "I'm never listening to your station"; 683 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,115 it's plummets to "We want that" 684 00:39:18,155 --> 00:39:19,918 before our album comes out. 685 00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:23,120 I didn't mean for us to do anything for country. I just thought-- 686 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,958 I am just not willing to work country radio 687 00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:28,328 because I think it's gonna be a huge disaster. 688 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,698 - And we shouldn't. - I don't think we should, either. 689 00:39:30,735 --> 00:39:33,636 But having said that, if country radio embraced it 690 00:39:33,671 --> 00:39:35,696 and turned around, and all of a sudden 691 00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:37,799 you're sitting in number one on country radio, 692 00:39:37,842 --> 00:39:40,970 I think it would be crazy not to go back and go, 693 00:39:41,011 --> 00:39:43,639 - "We're glad you like the new record." - Water under the bridge. 694 00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:45,410 So we're all gonna be friends again now. 695 00:39:45,449 --> 00:39:47,713 We're gonna have to deal with some more redneck bullshit. 696 00:39:47,752 --> 00:39:50,744 But I think it's at a point where you cannot go back 697 00:39:50,788 --> 00:39:54,019 and put yourself in the crosshairs. 698 00:39:59,263 --> 00:40:02,926 Be proud of your country. Be ashamed of the Dixie Chicks. 699 00:40:04,668 --> 00:40:08,331 The controversy from the country music world has landed tonight. 700 00:40:08,372 --> 00:40:11,000 The Dixie Chicks launched the US leg 701 00:40:11,041 --> 00:40:14,033 of their "Top of the World" tour in Greenville, South Carolina. 702 00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:16,672 They're ignorant, and they don't know what they're talking about. 703 00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:19,182 If you support the Dixie Chicks, you're supporting communism. 704 00:40:19,216 --> 00:40:20,478 You're supporting traitors. 705 00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:22,918 We're tired of the anti-American voices. 706 00:40:22,953 --> 00:40:24,682 We're tired of the antiwar voices. 707 00:40:24,722 --> 00:40:27,850 Tickets for the Dixie Chicks concert went on sale months ago. 708 00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:30,986 We did buy the tickets before they said these things. 709 00:40:31,028 --> 00:40:33,394 We couldn't get our money back, so that's why we're here. 710 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,025 But these South Carolina fans had no idea 711 00:40:36,066 --> 00:40:39,365 that the show they were paying to see would end up becoming 712 00:40:39,403 --> 00:40:41,371 much more than a concert. 713 00:40:41,405 --> 00:40:44,499 I think we in South Carolina ought to say goodbye to the Dixie Chicks, 714 00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:47,875 and anybody going to that concert ought to be ready to run away from it. 715 00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:49,140 God Bless GW! 716 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,944 When Natalie Maines made her comments on the eve of war, 717 00:40:51,982 --> 00:40:54,280 most of us recognized that was reprehensible. 718 00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:57,185 It hurt our men fighting overseas who think their cause is just. 719 00:40:57,221 --> 00:41:00,418 Is this a matter of free speech or bad manners? 720 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:01,891 Their opinion is so ignorant. 721 00:41:01,926 --> 00:41:03,621 They don't know what they're talking about. 722 00:41:03,661 --> 00:41:06,926 I think they are the Ditzy Twits. These are the dumbest, 723 00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,728 dumbest bimbos, with due respect, I have seen... 724 00:41:09,767 --> 00:41:12,167 These are callow, foolish women who deserved to be slapped around. 725 00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:13,898 Absolutely. 726 00:41:13,938 --> 00:41:16,304 The Bi-Lo Center is working with Greenville police 727 00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:19,275 to provide extra security surrounding the Dixie Chicks concert. 728 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:21,471 Sit. 729 00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:23,139 Bomb-sniffing dog. 730 00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:27,116 I mean, the Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind. 731 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,142 They can say what they want to say. 732 00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:32,587 And just because-- they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because 733 00:41:32,623 --> 00:41:35,524 some people don't wanna buy their records when they speak out. 734 00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:37,959 You know, freedom is a two-way street. 735 00:41:37,995 --> 00:41:40,122 "They shouldn't have their feelings hurt"? 736 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:42,997 What a dumb fuck. You're a dumb fuck. 737 00:41:43,033 --> 00:41:45,831 Of course, everyone anxious to find out here what happens 738 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:49,271 when the Dixie Chicks go before a live audience for the first time. 739 00:41:49,306 --> 00:41:50,898 14,000 Dixie Chicks fans ready to go. 740 00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,637 It feels real good. 741 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,984 Deafening cheers and a standing ovation 742 00:42:39,023 --> 00:42:41,548 greeted the Dixie Chicks as they opened their first US tour 743 00:42:41,592 --> 00:42:43,822 since Maines made her controversial comment. 744 00:42:43,861 --> 00:42:46,853 The down-home greeting came just as President Bush 745 00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:49,661 addressed the nation aboard the USS Lincoln. 746 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,463 America is grateful 747 00:42:51,502 --> 00:42:54,027 for a job well done. 748 00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:02,506 They said you might not come, 749 00:43:02,546 --> 00:43:04,946 but we knew you'd come. 750 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,618 Because we have the greatest fans 751 00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:14,647 in the whole world. 752 00:43:14,692 --> 00:43:17,354 Oh wait, I hear some boos. 753 00:43:17,394 --> 00:43:18,884 We have a plan for this. 754 00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:22,626 If you're hearing a boo, we welcome that... 755 00:43:22,666 --> 00:43:25,066 because we welcome freedom of speech. 756 00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,799 So we're gonna give you 15 seconds 757 00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:31,273 to get whatever you have out. 758 00:43:31,308 --> 00:43:34,004 So here we go, on the count of three, 759 00:43:34,044 --> 00:43:36,239 you can start your booing. 760 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,716 One, two, three. 761 00:43:58,669 --> 00:44:01,570 - Ladies... - Was there boos at the end? 762 00:44:01,605 --> 00:44:03,869 ...that was fucking brilliant. 763 00:44:03,907 --> 00:44:07,570 - It was. It felt like... - Oh, it was brilliant. 764 00:44:07,611 --> 00:44:09,772 Oh, that was brilliant. 765 00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:11,678 All the media people 766 00:44:11,715 --> 00:44:14,377 are just like, "Oh--" I mean-- 767 00:44:14,418 --> 00:44:16,579 - Simon, you're our manager. Shut up. - Okay. Sorry. 768 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:19,248 This sucked, actually. It was really fucking lame. 769 00:44:19,289 --> 00:44:21,416 Whoo! 770 00:44:23,427 --> 00:44:26,863 Cheers, you guys. 771 00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:31,829 So being the pain in the ass 772 00:44:31,869 --> 00:44:33,336 that I am, 773 00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:36,669 we've gotta do a little radio thing now, 774 00:44:36,707 --> 00:44:38,800 - so... - Aw, come on! 775 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:41,504 But what made it tough was it wasn't your normal call, 776 00:44:41,545 --> 00:44:44,673 "I wish you wouldn't play that song," or "I don't really like what you did." 777 00:44:44,715 --> 00:44:47,206 It was, "I will never listen to you again. 778 00:44:47,251 --> 00:44:50,152 I will drive to the station. I will," you know, 779 00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:51,677 short of threats, to us, 780 00:44:51,722 --> 00:44:55,089 it was like, "I will never listen again." That was just weird. 781 00:44:55,125 --> 00:44:56,387 We have this audience, 782 00:44:56,427 --> 00:44:59,419 and we wave that country flag all the time, 783 00:44:59,463 --> 00:45:01,624 defend country music, 784 00:45:01,665 --> 00:45:03,792 and in an instant, 785 00:45:03,834 --> 00:45:05,426 they turned their backs on us. 786 00:45:05,469 --> 00:45:07,960 No, I mean, you being the biggest ambassadors for country radio. 787 00:45:08,005 --> 00:45:10,439 No bullshit, how do you all feel about country radio? 788 00:45:10,474 --> 00:45:12,374 The people who abandoned us, 789 00:45:12,409 --> 00:45:14,639 I'll never talk to them again. 790 00:45:14,678 --> 00:45:16,942 And the people who've supported us are gonna 791 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,448 get more love than they've ever seen. 792 00:45:29,326 --> 00:45:31,055 Can you say, "Hi"? Say "Aghhh!" 793 00:45:31,095 --> 00:45:33,791 - Sneak attack! - Aggh! You scared me. 794 00:45:41,438 --> 00:45:44,771 Freedom of speech is fine, but by God, you don't do it outside 795 00:45:44,808 --> 00:45:47,003 of the country, and you don't do it in mass public place. 796 00:45:47,044 --> 00:45:49,672 "Being ashamed of our president 797 00:45:49,713 --> 00:45:52,375 means being ashamed of our country. 798 00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:54,213 Move to France, Dixie Chicks." 799 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:55,843 Screw 'em! 800 00:45:55,886 --> 00:45:59,014 Right? Say it. 801 00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:08,689 Did Simon tell you all the American Red Cross 802 00:46:08,732 --> 00:46:10,859 wouldn't take a million dollars from us? 803 00:46:10,901 --> 00:46:12,892 Well, you do know that George W Bush 804 00:46:12,936 --> 00:46:14,665 is the honorary chairman. 805 00:46:14,705 --> 00:46:16,605 This whole week they didn't play us. 806 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,870 - This whole week they didn't play us. - That's one song. 807 00:46:18,909 --> 00:46:20,877 - No one boycotted you. - This is a boycott. 808 00:46:20,911 --> 00:46:22,776 - That one did. - That is not a boycott. 809 00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:26,305 How is it not a boycott? They haven't been playing our music for a few weeks. 810 00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:30,150 A boycott is when someone says, "We are not playing--" 811 00:46:30,187 --> 00:46:32,246 Simon, actions speak louder than words. 812 00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:34,052 What's the difference? You tell me the difference. 813 00:46:38,462 --> 00:46:41,795 All I know is all these radio stations, they pretend to support 'em, 814 00:46:41,832 --> 00:46:44,892 but they won't play 'em. We call and ask, and they won't. 815 00:46:44,935 --> 00:46:47,199 No other artist that we play on the radio 816 00:46:47,237 --> 00:46:49,728 would get the kind of hate mail and complaint calls, 817 00:46:49,773 --> 00:46:53,140 and "I'm never listening to you again. I'm never doing business with you." 818 00:46:53,177 --> 00:46:56,772 No one gets that. I could probably put Marilyn Manson on the radio station 819 00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:59,180 and not get that kind of negative feedback, 820 00:46:59,216 --> 00:47:01,081 even though we're a country station. 821 00:47:01,118 --> 00:47:03,211 These people haven't "boycotted" us, 822 00:47:03,253 --> 00:47:05,153 but they haven't been playing our song 823 00:47:05,189 --> 00:47:08,716 and are partially responsible for our number-one single to plummet. 824 00:47:08,759 --> 00:47:11,091 I'm just trying to find some medium ground here. 825 00:47:11,128 --> 00:47:14,063 - Ignore it. - It's up to them to do the right thing. 826 00:47:14,097 --> 00:47:16,588 We have not done anything wrong, and there's nothing 827 00:47:16,633 --> 00:47:18,328 - for us to climb back from. - I agree. 828 00:47:27,144 --> 00:47:30,944 - Where are our record sales? - Near the shitter. 829 00:47:30,981 --> 00:47:33,040 - How much? - Right now you're down to 56 830 00:47:33,083 --> 00:47:35,381 on the top 200. But yet-- 831 00:47:35,419 --> 00:47:38,013 - Is that the lowest ever? - Yeah. 832 00:47:38,055 --> 00:47:40,785 I think time's the greatest healer of all. 833 00:47:40,824 --> 00:47:44,385 Listen, they'll give Tracy Lawrence, who's a wife beater, another shot. 834 00:47:44,428 --> 00:47:46,259 I don't want another shot. 835 00:47:49,166 --> 00:47:51,225 Until the mood of our audience changes, 836 00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:53,361 we're not going to play them anymore. 837 00:47:53,403 --> 00:47:55,837 It'd simply be financial suicide. 838 00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:58,273 Keep playing, keep making music. 839 00:47:58,308 --> 00:48:00,799 And keep your mouth shut. 840 00:48:00,844 --> 00:48:02,744 Now that we've, you know, 841 00:48:02,779 --> 00:48:06,340 fucked ourselves anyway, I think we have a responsibility 842 00:48:06,383 --> 00:48:09,181 to continue to fuck ourselves. 843 00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:22,658 I am so-- I just-- the rest of our career just better not be overanalyzed 844 00:48:22,699 --> 00:48:24,826 like this because of this one episode. 845 00:48:24,868 --> 00:48:28,797 USA! USA! 846 00:48:28,839 --> 00:48:32,536 USA! 847 00:48:46,023 --> 00:48:48,457 I almost started crying out there tonight. 848 00:48:48,492 --> 00:48:50,050 Why? 849 00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:52,357 All these people in this huge arena, 850 00:48:52,396 --> 00:48:54,921 and I thought, are we ever gonna be 851 00:48:54,965 --> 00:48:57,058 at this level again? 852 00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,830 It made me so sad. I thought, 853 00:48:59,870 --> 00:49:01,838 "Is this the top, 854 00:49:01,872 --> 00:49:05,171 you know, and everything's downhill from here?" 855 00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:09,174 Today's country, KJ97. Good morning. 856 00:49:09,212 --> 00:49:11,680 It's Randy Carroll and Pam Tyler. It's 8:54. 857 00:49:11,715 --> 00:49:13,808 Their career is a lot bigger 858 00:49:13,850 --> 00:49:16,910 than the country music core. 859 00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:19,081 Now as a radio station, 860 00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:22,091 we can't afford to lose the country music core. 861 00:49:22,125 --> 00:49:24,719 As entertainers, they obviously feel like they can, 862 00:49:24,761 --> 00:49:26,820 and I think that's probably the thing 863 00:49:26,863 --> 00:49:28,888 that bugs me the most about the whole thing-- 864 00:49:28,932 --> 00:49:31,594 not so much what they say, 865 00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,763 but in the things that they've said. And several different things, 866 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:36,898 not just the comment about the president, 867 00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:40,341 but some of the things that they said about Toby Keith's music 868 00:49:40,377 --> 00:49:44,336 and about him and people that believe that way 869 00:49:44,381 --> 00:49:46,975 shows a real contempt 870 00:49:47,017 --> 00:49:48,644 for what a whole lot 871 00:49:48,685 --> 00:49:51,051 of country-music listeners believe. 872 00:49:51,088 --> 00:49:54,580 I just have a quick question regarding things that have been happening 873 00:49:54,624 --> 00:49:57,718 with Toby Keith lately. He was in town a couple of weeks ago 874 00:49:57,761 --> 00:50:00,229 with a little bit of a video poking fun at you. 875 00:50:00,263 --> 00:50:03,232 What are you thoughts on that? Is it all just in fun, 876 00:50:03,266 --> 00:50:05,791 or is there any seriousness to what's going on? 877 00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:09,636 It's not in fun for me. 878 00:50:09,673 --> 00:50:13,404 I don't appreciate what he does in his show 879 00:50:13,443 --> 00:50:17,402 with my picture, and he has not been banned for that. 880 00:50:32,796 --> 00:50:35,526 You have had a famous feud, 881 00:50:35,565 --> 00:50:38,830 and does it bother you that you are sometimes linked 882 00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:41,497 with this simple-minded redneck? 883 00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:44,336 And by that, I mean George Bush. 884 00:50:44,374 --> 00:50:46,808 You're getting us in a lot of trouble, Bill. 885 00:50:46,843 --> 00:50:50,176 - I don't think we can get in more. - What is the status of that feud? 886 00:51:01,024 --> 00:51:03,424 You don't mind if I wear a shirt that says "Fuck Toby Keith"? 887 00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:06,361 I think it's cool. 888 00:51:06,396 --> 00:51:10,355 I bet you $1,000 that you won't wear a T-shirt that says, 889 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,334 "Fuck you, Toby Keith" in three-inch-- 890 00:51:12,369 --> 00:51:14,997 I should wear a T-shirt that says "I love Toby." 891 00:51:15,038 --> 00:51:17,336 "I love TK." 892 00:51:17,374 --> 00:51:19,808 "FCTK." 893 00:51:19,843 --> 00:51:22,334 Ooooh! 894 00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:25,313 - What is that? - FUTK. 895 00:51:25,348 --> 00:51:27,475 What does that mean? 896 00:51:27,517 --> 00:51:29,485 Fuck you, Toby Keith. 897 00:51:32,189 --> 00:51:34,817 And then when people ask about it, what's the line? 898 00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:36,416 Use your imagination. 899 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:38,189 It means something different to everyone. 900 00:51:38,228 --> 00:51:40,025 I'm gonna do that. That's so safe. 901 00:51:40,063 --> 00:51:43,965 Fans United Together in Kindness. 902 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,231 Personally, I wish they would just shut up and sing. 903 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:50,068 About the time things start dying down, 904 00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:53,042 somebody else says something stupid 905 00:51:53,076 --> 00:51:55,067 and gets everybody all riled up again. 906 00:51:58,782 --> 00:52:00,545 Dixie Chicks rule! 907 00:52:02,219 --> 00:52:04,244 Fuck you, T.K.! 908 00:52:04,287 --> 00:52:05,948 F.U.T.K.! 909 00:52:05,989 --> 00:52:10,016 My shirt means "Freedom, Unity, Truth, Knowledge." 910 00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:13,552 Oh sure, it says "FUDC." You can infer whatever you want from that. 911 00:52:13,597 --> 00:52:15,121 I don't know what it means. 912 00:52:15,165 --> 00:52:17,690 I'd say it's "Freedom for the United States 913 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:20,635 which is a Democratic Country." 914 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,751 You see that person shaking their sign with so much energy 915 00:53:13,790 --> 00:53:15,553 - that said "FUDC"? - Yeah. 916 00:53:15,592 --> 00:53:17,753 - You should have said-- - I almost said-- 917 00:53:17,794 --> 00:53:19,625 "Hey, that's not nice of you, crowd." 918 00:53:19,663 --> 00:53:22,598 "We love you all's signs, but what do you have against Dick Cheney?" 919 00:53:24,734 --> 00:53:26,565 The Committee continues its series of hearings 920 00:53:26,636 --> 00:53:29,662 examining media ownership by returning to the topic 921 00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:31,765 that started it all-- radio. 922 00:53:31,808 --> 00:53:33,708 As a result of statements made 923 00:53:33,743 --> 00:53:35,574 by members of the Dixie Chicks at a concert, 924 00:53:35,612 --> 00:53:38,308 two radio networks-- Cox and Cumulus-- 925 00:53:38,348 --> 00:53:41,715 banned the Dixie Chicks from their playlist at a chain level. 926 00:53:41,751 --> 00:53:43,742 Mr. Chairman, first of all, 927 00:53:43,787 --> 00:53:46,221 Mr. Renshaw refers to our radio companies as networks 928 00:53:46,256 --> 00:53:48,315 and we are not networks. 929 00:53:48,358 --> 00:53:52,260 We are a confederation of 270 individual stations in 55 cities-- 930 00:53:52,295 --> 00:53:55,958 You made a decision from corporate headquarters 931 00:53:55,999 --> 00:53:59,901 that was binding on-- on your DJs. 932 00:53:59,936 --> 00:54:01,904 - Mr. Chairman-- - And just prior to that, 933 00:54:01,938 --> 00:54:05,271 you said that you are a group of independent radio stations. 934 00:54:05,308 --> 00:54:07,674 See, that's a total contradiction, Mr. Dickey. 935 00:54:07,711 --> 00:54:09,804 I think that mischaracterizes it. As I mentioned, 936 00:54:09,846 --> 00:54:12,178 this was a collaborative decision-making process. 937 00:54:12,215 --> 00:54:13,978 Everybody fell in line. This was not-- 938 00:54:14,017 --> 00:54:16,212 this was a unanimous overwhelming decision. 939 00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:18,084 "Fell in line," I understand this. 940 00:54:18,121 --> 00:54:21,147 Do you think what you did sent any type of a chilling message 941 00:54:21,191 --> 00:54:23,625 to people that they oughta shut up... 942 00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:26,185 and not express their views one way or other? 943 00:54:26,229 --> 00:54:27,526 - I would hope not. - Okay. 944 00:54:27,564 --> 00:54:30,556 Let me conclude-- 945 00:54:31,668 --> 00:54:36,002 Mr. Renshaw, do you think that program directors 946 00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:40,635 ever have the right to select the programming 947 00:54:40,677 --> 00:54:43,373 based on the actions, activities 948 00:54:43,413 --> 00:54:46,940 or public statements of the entertainers? 949 00:54:46,983 --> 00:54:49,315 I believe that they have the right to make the decisions 950 00:54:49,352 --> 00:54:52,446 about whether they do play something or they don't play something. 951 00:54:52,489 --> 00:54:55,049 But I think that what we were seeing that was going on at the time 952 00:54:55,091 --> 00:54:57,150 was people were making decisions 953 00:54:57,193 --> 00:55:01,289 in a politically-censuring mode, despite what everyone says. 954 00:55:01,331 --> 00:55:04,027 Not very many managers would be so brave. 955 00:55:04,067 --> 00:55:08,094 They had-- they had unwittingly entered into the world of politics. 956 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:11,301 It just seems to me that when people get into politics, 957 00:55:11,341 --> 00:55:13,901 even if they're entertainers, it has consequences. 958 00:55:13,943 --> 00:55:17,504 She made a decision, politically, to speak. 959 00:55:17,547 --> 00:55:19,538 It had a business consequence to her. 960 00:55:19,582 --> 00:55:23,541 And I think entertainers, increasingly after this conflict, 961 00:55:23,586 --> 00:55:26,316 are now recognizing that their involvement in politics 962 00:55:26,356 --> 00:55:30,053 does have a political fallout in terms of business to them. 963 00:55:35,031 --> 00:55:37,397 Oooh, did you see that? 964 00:55:37,434 --> 00:55:40,767 If we give VH1-- if we're doing the VH1 thing, 965 00:55:40,804 --> 00:55:43,295 and we give them the remixed version of "Top of the World"-- 966 00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:47,401 - Yes. - Can we give CMT 967 00:55:47,444 --> 00:55:49,309 simultaneously 968 00:55:49,346 --> 00:55:53,146 - the country version? - Why are we beating a dead horse? 969 00:55:53,183 --> 00:55:56,778 - CMT viewers, I don't think, want-- - Well, that's-- 970 00:55:56,820 --> 00:55:59,755 I don't think we should penalize-- if they want to try-- 971 00:55:59,789 --> 00:56:02,781 penalize CMT when they have done nothing but stand by us. 972 00:56:02,826 --> 00:56:06,284 I don't want to be in a market and industry that doesn't want us right now. 973 00:56:06,329 --> 00:56:10,891 I just feel like... "Let country music rest." 974 00:56:10,934 --> 00:56:13,926 - Just not wanting to go-- - We're not going to the CMAs. 975 00:56:13,970 --> 00:56:15,938 - We're not-- - You're not?! 976 00:56:15,972 --> 00:56:18,873 So, uh-- 977 00:56:18,908 --> 00:56:21,502 You mean we can't-- uh... 978 00:56:21,544 --> 00:56:24,843 So I'm just gonna tell them, "No, pass. Forget it. We're over it. 979 00:56:24,881 --> 00:56:28,339 - See you in a couple of years." - Maybe. 980 00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:31,479 Well, "Whether you like it or not is gonna be irrelevant, 981 00:56:31,521 --> 00:56:34,490 but we'll see you in a couple of years with something." 982 00:56:34,524 --> 00:56:38,051 - Maybe. - You may never make another record? 983 00:56:38,094 --> 00:56:40,858 - It may not be a country record. - Oh, I know that. 984 00:56:40,897 --> 00:56:42,592 - It works-- - It could be. 985 00:56:42,632 --> 00:56:44,395 I'm assuming that it-- that-- 986 00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:48,564 I'm assuming there will be another record at some point. All right. 987 00:56:48,605 --> 00:56:51,836 Yeah, but they're not-- anyway, we can argue about it 988 00:56:51,875 --> 00:56:53,536 - in two years. - Yes, oh yeah. 989 00:57:09,726 --> 00:57:12,286 Here we go. 990 00:57:17,834 --> 00:57:20,064 I'm probably totally outnumbered, 991 00:57:20,103 --> 00:57:23,402 but I think this is a country record in a lot of ways. 992 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840 Knowing country through and through 993 00:57:25,875 --> 00:57:30,107 because that's what I listened to, you know, most of my life, 994 00:57:30,146 --> 00:57:32,273 I don't think this is that far... 995 00:57:32,315 --> 00:57:34,215 - I don't think so. - ...from country 996 00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:37,048 There are songs like "Lubbock" where it's hardly kind of country, 997 00:57:37,086 --> 00:57:38,849 but it's kind of like-- I don't know, 998 00:57:38,888 --> 00:57:41,379 I really haven't heard a band that sounds like that. 999 00:57:41,424 --> 00:57:45,224 The last thing I wanted to do was for Rick to come in 1000 00:57:45,261 --> 00:57:47,786 and say, "Okay, we're making a rock record." 1001 00:57:47,831 --> 00:57:50,356 That would've scared the crap out of me. 1002 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,233 He hears something different, Natalie hears something different, 1003 00:57:53,269 --> 00:57:55,897 Emily hears something different, I hear something different, 1004 00:57:55,939 --> 00:57:58,908 but to me this is reminiscent of the country I grew up on 1005 00:57:58,942 --> 00:58:00,603 which is why I love it. 1006 00:58:14,224 --> 00:58:16,522 I feel like I just decompress 1007 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:18,618 the second I go through the gate. 1008 00:58:18,661 --> 00:58:21,289 It's just like I can just relax, you know? 1009 00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:24,459 Being on the road's one thing, but LA is a whole other thing. 1010 00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:27,061 It's just not my cup of tea. 1011 00:58:36,179 --> 00:58:38,670 I don't understand how people can live 1012 00:58:38,715 --> 00:58:40,615 in a place like Los Angeles. 1013 00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:43,778 When I'm out there visiting her, I'm just pissed off the whole time. 1014 00:58:43,820 --> 00:58:47,813 He is-- he's literally pissed off the whole time. I'm like, "Go home." 1015 00:58:49,292 --> 00:58:53,285 I've always been able to separate work and family 1016 00:58:53,329 --> 00:58:56,492 and I've never had to do that as long as I have this time 1017 00:58:56,533 --> 00:58:59,696 with this project, you know? I've never had to relocate. 1018 00:59:01,337 --> 00:59:04,500 It was a hard year. You know, being split up like that, 1019 00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,635 especially, you know-- with our son being two and a half. 1020 00:59:07,677 --> 00:59:10,475 Yeah, he'd get to fly back and be with Dad for a week, 1021 00:59:10,513 --> 00:59:12,777 but for a two-and-a-half-year-old to conceptualize, 1022 00:59:12,815 --> 00:59:15,375 "Why aren't you together?" That was really hard. 1023 00:59:15,418 --> 00:59:17,648 Hey, Mommy. 1024 00:59:17,687 --> 00:59:20,986 Stop. 1025 00:59:25,628 --> 00:59:27,493 - He's pretty good. - Gimme. 1026 00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:30,556 - Got him! - Shoot. 1027 00:59:40,076 --> 00:59:42,340 Dance in circles, do your hands-- 1028 00:59:42,378 --> 00:59:44,505 Where's jazz hands? 1029 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:49,885 I don't know too many women who get to bring 1030 00:59:49,919 --> 00:59:52,717 their husband and two children to work. 1031 00:59:52,755 --> 00:59:55,918 Yummy yummy? 1032 00:59:55,959 --> 00:59:59,156 I'm so lucky. My husband travels everywhere with me. 1033 00:59:59,195 --> 01:00:01,755 He's like a Mr. Mom and he loves being a dad 1034 01:00:01,798 --> 01:00:04,995 - and travels on every tour. - I love being there for her 1035 01:00:05,034 --> 01:00:07,002 when she comes in in the evening from the studio. 1036 01:00:07,036 --> 01:00:09,266 You know, the babies are there and I'm there. 1037 01:00:09,305 --> 01:00:11,705 Dinner's on the table-- sometimes. 1038 01:00:11,741 --> 01:00:13,572 And uh, you know, it's-- it's good. 1039 01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:15,475 It really is, it's great. 1040 01:00:15,511 --> 01:00:18,776 No matter where we are, as long as we're together, I feel like we're home. 1041 01:00:21,851 --> 01:00:23,512 Happy Halloween. 1042 01:00:23,553 --> 01:00:26,989 - I don't want it, I don't want it. - We'll do it loose. 1043 01:00:27,023 --> 01:00:29,082 - Huh-uh, huh-uh. - Do it. Watch. 1044 01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:31,992 If you don't like it, we'll take it off. 1045 01:00:32,028 --> 01:00:34,622 Trust me, man. I have to wear one all the time. 1046 01:00:34,664 --> 01:00:36,928 You know, Daddy plays lawyers. It's all I do. 1047 01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,695 Look at me-- do I look like a lawyer? 1048 01:00:38,735 --> 01:00:41,033 It's the tie-- it fools everyone. 1049 01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:45,564 Aw, it's so cute though. Girls are suckers for boys in ties. 1050 01:00:45,608 --> 01:00:47,803 - I don't want my tie. - Hey, you know what, buddy? 1051 01:00:47,844 --> 01:00:52,406 I don't blame you. Ties suck. 1052 01:00:52,448 --> 01:00:55,383 Who wants to tie a noose around their neck? 1053 01:00:55,418 --> 01:00:57,943 This is basically like this. So in corporate America you go, 1054 01:00:57,987 --> 01:00:59,454 "Come on. Let's go. Come on. 1055 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:02,287 Come on, come on. Another couple hundred million dollars. 1056 01:01:02,325 --> 01:01:05,817 Come on, come on." This is how they walk around the halls at Exxon. 1057 01:01:05,862 --> 01:01:08,228 Just like this. Come on, let's go, come on, chop-chop. 1058 01:01:08,264 --> 01:01:10,528 Okay, so I don't blame you. 1059 01:01:10,566 --> 01:01:12,295 You don't have to wear it. 1060 01:01:14,137 --> 01:01:16,071 What else do we need? 1061 01:01:16,105 --> 01:01:18,539 Oh! 1062 01:01:18,574 --> 01:01:22,271 You're beautiful. 1063 01:01:22,311 --> 01:01:23,676 Look at Kathleen. 1064 01:01:23,713 --> 01:01:26,739 Beautiful. I think we're ready. 1065 01:01:28,451 --> 01:01:31,284 - Happy Halloween! - Hey, you ready, Harry? 1066 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,413 - This. - Mama, look, a graveyard. 1067 01:01:33,456 --> 01:01:35,447 I know. Look at that scary guy. 1068 01:01:35,491 --> 01:01:39,120 Where is Kathleen? 1069 01:01:39,162 --> 01:01:42,654 - Ta-dah! - Dah! 1070 01:01:45,735 --> 01:01:47,794 I feel like I've aged five years 1071 01:01:47,837 --> 01:01:49,737 since I had my twins. 1072 01:01:49,772 --> 01:01:52,138 I just look in the mirror and think I look so old, 1073 01:01:52,175 --> 01:01:54,040 and the other morning I was so tired. 1074 01:01:54,077 --> 01:01:57,376 When you're just so tired, you'd give anything not to have to get up. 1075 01:01:57,413 --> 01:02:00,280 I offered Adrian a thousand bucks to get up once, and he didn't do it. 1076 01:02:00,316 --> 01:02:02,443 A thousand... 1077 01:02:02,485 --> 01:02:04,817 I was like, "I'll give you $1000." 1078 01:02:04,854 --> 01:02:06,185 I was so serious. 1079 01:02:06,222 --> 01:02:08,850 What does that mean to the person you're married to, though? 1080 01:02:08,891 --> 01:02:10,950 What's it mean that he didn't get up? 1081 01:02:10,993 --> 01:02:14,793 In our world, okay, we give you a blowjob. 1082 01:02:14,831 --> 01:02:17,857 "All right, you have to give me a blowjob." I was like, "No, I'll do it." 1083 01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:21,336 "I'll get up. Never mind. 1084 01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:23,736 You drive a hard bargain." 1085 01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:52,098 We need to find a way of introducing people 1086 01:02:52,135 --> 01:02:54,262 to the new sound on the new album, and I think we go out 1087 01:02:54,303 --> 01:02:56,931 and we do four shows. 1088 01:02:56,973 --> 01:02:59,203 I think we should go and play in LA, 1089 01:02:59,242 --> 01:03:01,540 New York, Chicago and Austin. 1090 01:03:01,577 --> 01:03:03,340 It would be more industry? 1091 01:03:03,379 --> 01:03:06,906 It would be more industry, fans. 1092 01:03:06,949 --> 01:03:08,644 That's too soon, Simon. 1093 01:03:08,684 --> 01:03:12,120 And especially for industry people, I don't think our first time performing 1094 01:03:12,155 --> 01:03:14,419 these songs need to be in front of industry people 1095 01:03:14,457 --> 01:03:17,255 while we're still feeling out how we are gonna-- 1096 01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:19,193 - How are we gonna do that? - --move and look. 1097 01:03:19,228 --> 01:03:22,322 If you want it to be really good, all we have to do is start early enough 1098 01:03:22,365 --> 01:03:25,027 to make it good, so I don't understand what your problem is. 1099 01:03:25,067 --> 01:03:27,968 I don't think we're being cautious enough. 1100 01:03:28,004 --> 01:03:30,768 I think it should be very calculated. 1101 01:03:30,807 --> 01:03:34,072 I feel like we're treating this like every other record, 1102 01:03:34,110 --> 01:03:36,374 and we all agreed that that is not the way 1103 01:03:36,412 --> 01:03:38,471 this needed to be treated. It scares me. 1104 01:03:38,514 --> 01:03:41,415 There's a lot of people out there who already have their minds made up. 1105 01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:43,918 - It doesn't matter. - What's that gotta do-- 1106 01:03:43,953 --> 01:03:46,615 We have never gone into a record being judged the way 1107 01:03:46,656 --> 01:03:48,749 we are gonna be judged this time. Never. 1108 01:04:28,865 --> 01:04:31,527 After the comment, when we got all the criticism, 1109 01:04:31,567 --> 01:04:33,660 it was just a really scary time. 1110 01:04:33,703 --> 01:04:36,035 It was just wrong what happened, not only to us, 1111 01:04:36,072 --> 01:04:38,700 but other people that were, you know, shut up 1112 01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:40,436 or made to feel threatened 1113 01:04:40,476 --> 01:04:43,445 for feeling a certain way, you know, about the war or whatever. 1114 01:04:43,479 --> 01:04:46,880 Everything was so bizarre, it was almost humorous. 1115 01:04:46,916 --> 01:04:48,747 I just could not believe 1116 01:04:48,784 --> 01:04:50,547 people cared what I said. 1117 01:04:50,586 --> 01:04:52,554 But it had to be somebody 1118 01:04:52,588 --> 01:04:54,522 or some group that seemed like 1119 01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:57,287 the all-American girls. It was perfect. 1120 01:04:57,326 --> 01:04:59,954 It had to be 1121 01:04:59,996 --> 01:05:01,827 the unlikely voice 1122 01:05:01,864 --> 01:05:04,264 from what looked like 1123 01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:07,531 the conservative heart of America saying it. 1124 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,333 That was perfect. 1125 01:05:15,711 --> 01:05:18,976 To me, it was something really just an episode, 1126 01:05:19,015 --> 01:05:21,313 and okay, we're gonna lose some record sales, 1127 01:05:21,350 --> 01:05:24,217 and it's more important to stand up for what's right, 1128 01:05:24,253 --> 01:05:27,188 and be a strong unit together and support each other. 1129 01:05:27,223 --> 01:05:29,714 But then when the death threat came, I thought, 1130 01:05:29,759 --> 01:05:32,990 "Okay, this is different league. It's a totally different league." 1131 01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:39,993 Thank you, Los Angeles! 1132 01:05:47,877 --> 01:05:49,902 That was the envelope tonight. 1133 01:05:58,487 --> 01:06:02,389 It says, "Natalie Maines will be shot dead Sunday, July 6th, 1134 01:06:02,425 --> 01:06:05,360 in Dallas, Texas." 1135 01:06:05,394 --> 01:06:07,385 - You know the Dallas threat? - Yeah. 1136 01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:10,399 They have a guy, the police have, reason to believe he might be the guy. 1137 01:06:10,433 --> 01:06:12,333 - Really? - Because he's made other threats 1138 01:06:12,368 --> 01:06:13,858 against senators in the same way-- 1139 01:06:13,903 --> 01:06:16,269 Can they make sure he's nowhere near Dallas? 1140 01:06:16,305 --> 01:06:19,035 I'm gonna have a policeman on him for the whole time we're in Dallas, 1141 01:06:19,075 --> 01:06:22,374 and outside his house, and just so they're always on him the whole time. 1142 01:06:22,411 --> 01:06:24,777 They think this is the person. 1143 01:06:24,814 --> 01:06:26,543 God. 1144 01:06:26,582 --> 01:06:28,709 The handwriting sort of matches. 1145 01:06:28,751 --> 01:06:31,219 The FBI had some intelligence on this guy 1146 01:06:31,253 --> 01:06:33,778 with some other threats, 1147 01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:36,724 possibly to you guys, but they didn't share it to anybody. 1148 01:06:36,759 --> 01:06:38,989 We're trying to get more info on it, 1149 01:06:39,028 --> 01:06:42,088 but we're gonna have people watching him during the show. 1150 01:06:42,131 --> 01:06:45,760 He's kind of cute. 1151 01:06:45,801 --> 01:06:49,100 He is. He's a good-looking guy. 1152 01:06:49,138 --> 01:06:50,935 The hairspray's got you. 1153 01:06:54,076 --> 01:06:57,011 When we start Texas, we're in serious danger territory. 1154 01:06:57,046 --> 01:07:00,413 So get your shit together because-- 1155 01:07:00,449 --> 01:07:01,643 It's very scary. 1156 01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:04,778 As I said, we're making some changes with security. 1157 01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:06,811 This should be a Texas Rangers issue. 1158 01:07:06,856 --> 01:07:08,756 No one fucks with the Texas Rangers. 1159 01:07:08,791 --> 01:07:11,351 Do you think the National Guard should be in Dallas? 1160 01:07:12,995 --> 01:07:15,361 The National Guard? 1161 01:07:18,868 --> 01:07:20,631 What, like tanks? 1162 01:07:20,669 --> 01:07:22,466 Armored personnel carriers? 1163 01:07:22,505 --> 01:07:25,838 - Like they do at the airports. - Inside the building? 1164 01:07:25,875 --> 01:07:28,105 Keeping an eye on the section? 1165 01:07:28,144 --> 01:07:30,271 If I was a person bringing a gun into a show, 1166 01:07:30,312 --> 01:07:32,371 I'd bring the smallest possible gun 1167 01:07:32,415 --> 01:07:33,882 and probably put it in my crotch 1168 01:07:33,916 --> 01:07:36,214 because nobody is gonna feel somebody's crotch up. 1169 01:07:36,252 --> 01:07:38,584 I wouldn't. I'd put it up in my ankle. 1170 01:07:38,621 --> 01:07:41,647 - They wand your feet. - They don't get down that far. 1171 01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:44,523 And you expect us to want to play a show in Dallas 1172 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,358 and you're telling us they don't feel people's legs. 1173 01:07:47,396 --> 01:07:50,854 They can't touch people. They cannot touch people. 1174 01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:53,835 Okay then, at Dallas we have metal detectors. 1175 01:07:53,869 --> 01:07:57,396 I know how vulnerable I feel. I can't imagine how Natalie feels. 1176 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,408 Standing up there, you feel so naked. 1177 01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:02,673 So naked. 1178 01:08:05,314 --> 01:08:07,805 Hello. 1179 01:08:07,850 --> 01:08:11,445 The last thing I said to Charlie was... 1180 01:08:13,222 --> 01:08:16,783 "I'll call you tonight if I don't get shot." 1181 01:08:16,826 --> 01:08:18,157 Oh! 1182 01:08:18,194 --> 01:08:20,958 Say, 6:30, we walk out the door at 6:45 1183 01:08:20,996 --> 01:08:23,658 and we fly in, and then when we land, 1184 01:08:23,699 --> 01:08:26,031 the cops are gonna take us right to the stage. 1185 01:08:26,068 --> 01:08:29,196 There's never any time where we're stopped inside the venue. 1186 01:08:29,238 --> 01:08:32,469 Hi, Asvia, this is Natalie Pasdar. 1187 01:08:32,508 --> 01:08:36,376 You gave me a reading about a year ago, probably. 1188 01:08:36,412 --> 01:08:39,438 I just wanna know if you feel like 1189 01:08:39,482 --> 01:08:40,540 I'm in any danger 1190 01:08:40,583 --> 01:08:43,211 or if I'm safe. 1191 01:08:43,252 --> 01:08:46,153 So please give me a call. Thank you, bye. 1192 01:09:24,627 --> 01:09:26,959 Be right there. 1193 01:09:26,996 --> 01:09:29,430 Come in, Mindi. 1194 01:09:37,072 --> 01:09:39,905 I'm not expecting to look at anybody 1195 01:09:39,942 --> 01:09:42,467 before we walk out of the room and say, "Is it clear?" 1196 01:09:42,511 --> 01:09:45,275 I'm just expecting it to be clear. And I want someone in front of me 1197 01:09:45,314 --> 01:09:47,782 when we're walking, and I want someone to be sitting there 1198 01:09:47,816 --> 01:09:49,613 waiting for us when we get there. 1199 01:09:56,025 --> 01:09:57,925 Number two check. 1200 01:11:12,334 --> 01:11:14,063 I had proposed a song idea 1201 01:11:14,103 --> 01:11:16,833 to them called "Undivided," 1202 01:11:16,872 --> 01:11:18,965 'cause I thought that people were being divided by politics 1203 01:11:19,008 --> 01:11:20,908 and being like, "Okay, you have to be on this side, 1204 01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:23,878 and you have to be on this side. Now you all go ahead and hate each other." 1205 01:11:23,912 --> 01:11:27,211 And be about also how the girls have dealt with controversy. 1206 01:11:27,249 --> 01:11:29,843 Instead of being divided and conquered, 1207 01:11:29,885 --> 01:11:32,683 they stuck together. Natalie thought about it for a second. 1208 01:11:32,721 --> 01:11:35,315 Then she said, "Well, does that mean 1209 01:11:35,357 --> 01:11:38,155 that in the song I would have to forgive the people 1210 01:11:38,193 --> 01:11:40,753 who did all that to us?" 1211 01:11:40,796 --> 01:11:43,856 And I said, "Maybe it would for the song. Maybe it would." 1212 01:11:43,899 --> 01:11:46,129 And she went, "Nope." 1213 01:12:05,854 --> 01:12:09,381 That's just the most emotional song on the record for me. 1214 01:12:09,425 --> 01:12:12,758 It took about, I'd say, a hundred listens 1215 01:12:12,795 --> 01:12:14,763 before I didn't get choked up, 1216 01:12:14,797 --> 01:12:17,322 literally, just every time I play it for somebody, 1217 01:12:17,366 --> 01:12:19,129 or heard it in the car or whatever, 1218 01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:22,899 it made me realize how raw the emotions still were. 1219 01:12:33,816 --> 01:12:36,717 The Dixie Chicks may soon cause a stir with lyrics 1220 01:12:36,752 --> 01:12:38,242 from their upcoming album. 1221 01:12:38,287 --> 01:12:39,777 This single "Not Ready to Make Nice" 1222 01:12:39,822 --> 01:12:42,484 is not big on the radio, 1223 01:12:42,524 --> 01:12:44,458 and is really not big on country radio. 1224 01:12:44,493 --> 01:12:47,826 The Dixie Chicks have all but challenged 1225 01:12:47,863 --> 01:12:50,764 country music stations to stop playing their music. 1226 01:12:50,799 --> 01:12:55,702 Joanne's e-mail this morning was the south of the Mason-Dixon Line. 1227 01:12:55,738 --> 01:12:58,536 We have no one other than one station-- 1228 01:12:58,574 --> 01:13:00,337 So lose a few. 1229 01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:02,867 Miami, LA and Knoxville. 1230 01:13:02,911 --> 01:13:06,438 At least the album's fucking delivered. 1231 01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:13,913 Mind your step, ladies. I know you're having fun, but mind your step, please. 1232 01:13:13,956 --> 01:13:17,824 So, girls, one thing that did come up today in my meeting with Sony, 1233 01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:20,693 the big concern that they have is 1234 01:13:20,729 --> 01:13:23,061 we really don't know what's gonna happen on radio. 1235 01:13:23,098 --> 01:13:26,829 They wanna have us doing as much TV 1236 01:13:26,869 --> 01:13:30,430 as we can get done. So let me throw out some TV ideas 1237 01:13:30,472 --> 01:13:32,565 and get some feedback from you: 1238 01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:38,438 "The View," if it was just an interview 1239 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,744 with Barbara Walters, 1240 01:13:40,783 --> 01:13:43,843 and if we went in 1241 01:13:43,886 --> 01:13:47,583 and we did the production as opposed to "The View" doing the production. 1242 01:13:47,623 --> 01:13:49,215 "Regis and"-- 1243 01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:51,021 Kelly? 1244 01:13:51,059 --> 01:13:53,323 Now tell us, first, with each show 1245 01:13:53,362 --> 01:13:55,330 what's the mandatory performance? 1246 01:13:55,364 --> 01:13:57,491 Okay, can I just throw this out there? 1247 01:13:57,533 --> 01:14:01,333 Why can't we... 1248 01:14:01,370 --> 01:14:05,170 can we decide what kind of artists we want to be right now? 1249 01:14:05,207 --> 01:14:07,107 Sure. 1250 01:14:09,144 --> 01:14:11,203 Can we be the Bruce Springsteen 1251 01:14:11,246 --> 01:14:14,807 and the Bob Dylan-- not that I'm comparing our music 1252 01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:18,149 and ourselves to them-- but do we have to be 1253 01:14:18,187 --> 01:14:20,178 on everything that they'll let us be on? 1254 01:14:20,222 --> 01:14:21,450 I just don't care. 1255 01:14:21,490 --> 01:14:23,685 Here's what everyone is wrestling with. 1256 01:14:23,725 --> 01:14:27,491 You are the biggest-selling group in North America in the last eight years. 1257 01:14:27,529 --> 01:14:30,430 No one has sold, combined, more records than you have. 1258 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:32,730 I don't give a shit what Sony wants We know what Sony wants-- money. 1259 01:14:32,768 --> 01:14:35,760 We've always been a cash cow. They're worried we're not gonna be that. 1260 01:14:35,804 --> 01:14:38,136 I think what they're wrestling with 1261 01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:40,607 is they're wrestling with expectations. 1262 01:14:40,642 --> 01:14:43,736 They look at you as the act that they expect 1263 01:14:43,779 --> 01:14:47,647 to drive more sales with than any other band on Columbia 1264 01:14:47,683 --> 01:14:49,480 releasing an album this year. 1265 01:14:49,518 --> 01:14:51,543 Hey, Natalie, Natalie. 1266 01:15:02,164 --> 01:15:04,359 I read that you all felt like this album was 1267 01:15:04,399 --> 01:15:06,060 a rebirth or kind of like starting over. 1268 01:15:06,101 --> 01:15:07,500 Everything seems like the first time again. 1269 01:15:07,536 --> 01:15:10,096 - We knew it had to be personal. - It feels really good. 1270 01:15:10,138 --> 01:15:12,732 As we expected, Dixie Chicks album debuted 1271 01:15:12,774 --> 01:15:16,266 at number one on the Billboard 200 and on our country albums chart as well. 1272 01:15:16,311 --> 01:15:18,472 Everybody is talking about the Dixie Chicks. 1273 01:15:18,514 --> 01:15:21,312 They're right there on the cover of "Time" magazine. 1274 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:23,511 Does it still surprise you what went down? 1275 01:15:23,552 --> 01:15:25,816 The biggest surprise to me 1276 01:15:25,854 --> 01:15:29,312 was how many people were terrified to even be associated with us. 1277 01:15:29,358 --> 01:15:32,156 Public opinion has changed so much in the last three years. 1278 01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:35,925 Bush's approval rating is kind of down. Does that impact on you? 1279 01:15:35,964 --> 01:15:38,592 We just made the album we'd-- not even wanted to make, 1280 01:15:38,634 --> 01:15:41,296 but needed to make. 1281 01:15:41,336 --> 01:15:43,600 The new poll is certainly a blow for the president, 1282 01:15:43,639 --> 01:15:47,097 showing a public fed up with the war and his handling of it. 1283 01:15:47,142 --> 01:15:49,406 Tonight questions about claims the president 1284 01:15:49,444 --> 01:15:52,038 and members of his administration made in 2003. 1285 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,674 There are a lot of legitimate questions about this president, 1286 01:15:54,716 --> 01:15:57,685 how he misled the public on the issue of weapons of mass destruction. 1287 01:15:57,719 --> 01:16:00,153 We did not find the weapons of mass destruction 1288 01:16:00,188 --> 01:16:02,782 and that's raised questions about whether the sacrifice 1289 01:16:02,824 --> 01:16:04,485 in Iraq has been worth it. 1290 01:16:04,526 --> 01:16:08,018 59% call the war in Iraq a mistake. 1291 01:16:08,063 --> 01:16:11,863 Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary 1292 01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:14,391 and that has caused these kinds of casualties? 1293 01:16:14,436 --> 01:16:18,668 As we mentioned earlier, the number of US deaths has hit 2500, 1294 01:16:18,707 --> 01:16:21,403 and so far, 18,490 troops have been wounded. 1295 01:16:21,443 --> 01:16:24,537 The president has completely blown it with this war. 1296 01:16:24,580 --> 01:16:26,810 I am sorry about what I said, I'll tell you the truth. 1297 01:16:26,848 --> 01:16:28,873 'Cause they took a very bold and brave stand. 1298 01:16:28,917 --> 01:16:31,317 You guys were absolutely right. Right now you're not wearing panties. 1299 01:16:31,353 --> 01:16:33,844 - Is that a political thing? - Is that a Dixie Chick thing? 1300 01:16:33,889 --> 01:16:36,551 I won't wear panties until the war is over. 1301 01:16:36,592 --> 01:16:39,493 They got a number-one-selling album 1302 01:16:39,528 --> 01:16:41,996 and didn't have to depend on radio to do it. 1303 01:16:42,030 --> 01:16:44,760 Does it matter to you how this album does? 1304 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,769 I'm more scared about if the tour will sell 1305 01:16:47,803 --> 01:16:50,397 - than the records. - Yeah, than buy the album. 1306 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,373 No matter what, we will always make music, 1307 01:16:52,407 --> 01:16:56,138 but there's a certain energy and just that adrenaline 1308 01:16:56,178 --> 01:16:58,874 when you go out onstage and you have those fans 1309 01:16:58,914 --> 01:17:02,247 that are there. The live show, for me, is the-- is the total payoff. 1310 01:17:02,284 --> 01:17:05,082 When you have seven kids, you can't go back to the RV. 1311 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,678 You can't-- 1312 01:17:06,722 --> 01:17:10,556 you can't pile everybody in and, you know, go play small clubs. 1313 01:17:10,592 --> 01:17:13,186 I won't go out without my family. And so I think 1314 01:17:13,228 --> 01:17:16,356 you have to maintain a certain level of touring. 1315 01:17:16,398 --> 01:17:20,630 So, you know, to me that's-- that'll be the measure of success. 1316 01:17:20,669 --> 01:17:23,433 Arenas or nothing. 1317 01:17:24,606 --> 01:17:27,769 There's a whole new deal that's been proposed. 1318 01:17:27,809 --> 01:17:30,607 AG will make an offer for the entire tour. 1319 01:17:30,646 --> 01:17:35,674 The guarantee is basically $26 million, versus a 90-10 deal. 1320 01:17:35,717 --> 01:17:38,845 You keep saying the word "risk-- we're covering our risk." 1321 01:17:38,887 --> 01:17:41,253 What it comes down to is if we want to take that risk. 1322 01:17:41,289 --> 01:17:43,917 - Absolutely. - Maybe I'm bass-ackwards here, 1323 01:17:43,959 --> 01:17:46,689 but I would rather know that we took the risk 1324 01:17:46,728 --> 01:17:49,595 and had faith and lose out on money 1325 01:17:49,631 --> 01:17:52,794 than to do what I think it's gonna do and sell out 1326 01:17:52,834 --> 01:17:56,565 and have that feeling of "Why didn't we fucking have confidence in ourselves?" 1327 01:17:56,605 --> 01:17:58,698 You know what? If we're gonna have this conversation, 1328 01:17:58,740 --> 01:18:01,607 we should involve Al in it, and we should just look at the economics. 1329 01:18:01,643 --> 01:18:04,703 You're not gonna sell out in Nashville, 1330 01:18:04,746 --> 01:18:08,580 you won't sell out in Memphis, you won't sell out in Oklahoma City. 1331 01:18:08,617 --> 01:18:10,778 Now, I mean, we can lose money really quick. 1332 01:18:10,819 --> 01:18:12,150 I know we can. 1333 01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:15,315 Here was an option for you to hedge your bet. 1334 01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:16,984 If you don't wanna hedge, 1335 01:18:17,025 --> 01:18:20,586 - you don't wanna hedge. - I am-- I am saying I get all of this. 1336 01:18:20,629 --> 01:18:23,496 I'm totally with Natalie. 1337 01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:25,693 - And it's-- - And as hard-- 1338 01:18:25,734 --> 01:18:29,795 as hard as you think it is for us to work, it'll be harder for me to work 1339 01:18:29,838 --> 01:18:32,363 with a tour that sold out in two fucking days 1340 01:18:32,407 --> 01:18:35,274 and I didn't bet on myself when I knew I should 1341 01:18:35,310 --> 01:18:36,709 and I'm taking-- 1342 01:18:36,745 --> 01:18:39,805 and it's not even about the money! I'll be pissed at myself. 1343 01:18:39,848 --> 01:18:43,045 That will make me unhappy. It's almost like if you don't sell it 1344 01:18:43,085 --> 01:18:45,986 and you took a gamble on yourself just like how-- 1345 01:18:46,021 --> 01:18:48,353 it lights a fire. It makes you fight. 1346 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:50,187 - Just like-- - I'm not-- 1347 01:18:50,225 --> 01:18:53,319 I mean, they love the-- listen, I love the fucking attitude. 1348 01:18:53,361 --> 01:18:55,158 - Bring it on! - Nat, don't get me-- 1349 01:18:55,197 --> 01:18:58,633 Isn't that what Bush said? "Bring it on!" Exactly. 1350 01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:01,636 Listen, and you and Al are either with us or against us. 1351 01:19:03,872 --> 01:19:06,807 Unfortunately, we're with you. 1352 01:19:06,842 --> 01:19:09,606 - Whether you like it or not. - Whether we like it or not, 1353 01:19:09,644 --> 01:19:11,009 we're in. 1354 01:19:11,046 --> 01:19:13,412 Okay, according to Ticketmaster, 1355 01:19:13,448 --> 01:19:16,008 time-- one minute away from the on-sale start. 1356 01:19:16,051 --> 01:19:18,315 - Good morning. - Okay. Ah... 1357 01:19:18,353 --> 01:19:20,082 - Philadelphia... - Okay. 1358 01:19:20,122 --> 01:19:24,718 ...sold, 69; open, 7942. 1359 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,729 Toronto? Simon, uh... 1360 01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:30,163 - Toronto needs to roll right now. - That's too bad. 1361 01:19:30,198 --> 01:19:32,666 Can you roll Toronto to the second show? 1362 01:19:32,701 --> 01:19:35,067 Definitely. I will send it off right now. 1363 01:19:35,103 --> 01:19:38,004 Thank you. Philadelphia, pull back. 1364 01:19:38,039 --> 01:19:39,939 Pull back, Atlanta. 1365 01:19:39,975 --> 01:19:42,910 So don't roll any of them with the exception of Toronto. 1366 01:19:42,944 --> 01:19:44,775 Really? Okay, bye-bye. 1367 01:19:44,813 --> 01:19:47,373 So we rolled Toronto. What else is happening? 1368 01:19:47,415 --> 01:19:48,905 Toronto rolled right out. 1369 01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:51,214 The other ones-- you still had open seats. 1370 01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:54,848 - It's the South. - Atlanta is definitely slow. 1371 01:19:54,890 --> 01:19:56,755 This is not good. 1372 01:19:56,792 --> 01:19:59,522 I mean, I hate to throw a dose of reality on this. 1373 01:19:59,561 --> 01:20:02,394 - I don't disagree with you. - Even in Boston-- 1374 01:20:02,430 --> 01:20:05,831 those aren't good counts. We've gotta be honest with each other, 1375 01:20:05,867 --> 01:20:08,097 - they're not good counts. - No. 1376 01:20:08,136 --> 01:20:10,604 Can I throw a radical idea out here? 1377 01:20:10,639 --> 01:20:14,803 Do we take Milwaukee, KC, Saint Louis, Indy, Des Moines, 1378 01:20:14,843 --> 01:20:17,311 literally move them back into October 1379 01:20:17,345 --> 01:20:20,781 and try to just slam Canada in-out of Chicago and Minnie 1380 01:20:20,816 --> 01:20:22,841 and go spend our time up in Canada? 1381 01:20:22,884 --> 01:20:24,681 That's a great idea, I think. 1382 01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:26,949 'Cause Canada seems to be really strong. 1383 01:20:26,988 --> 01:20:30,082 I'm talking about playing Kamloops, Moose Jaw-- 1384 01:20:30,125 --> 01:20:32,685 everywhere there's a hockey arena, let's go play. 1385 01:20:32,727 --> 01:20:35,457 - Moose Jaw. - Yeah, there's a town called Moose Jaw. 1386 01:20:36,932 --> 01:20:39,492 - And it's got a hockey arena? - Yeah. 1387 01:20:39,534 --> 01:20:42,503 And that's where we're at. We are not selling to country right now. 1388 01:20:42,537 --> 01:20:45,131 - We are selling to a new audience. - Well, we're not-- yeah. 1389 01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:47,334 We're a new band. And the next tour we do, 1390 01:20:47,375 --> 01:20:49,468 if this record is a hit to the new audience, 1391 01:20:49,511 --> 01:20:52,480 we're back playing-- that's where we're rebuilding a career 1392 01:20:52,514 --> 01:20:55,074 with a whole new-- it's a new band and a new audience. 1393 01:21:03,959 --> 01:21:05,950 It feels like we've been beat up 1394 01:21:05,994 --> 01:21:09,020 and then we've been pushed back in the ring. 1395 01:21:10,031 --> 01:21:13,194 It's just emotionally draining and-- and-- 1396 01:21:13,235 --> 01:21:17,069 And the tour, I think it's the first... 1397 01:21:17,105 --> 01:21:18,868 non-success we've had. 1398 01:21:18,907 --> 01:21:22,343 People ask about sluggish tickets... 1399 01:21:23,812 --> 01:21:27,339 there's no denying we have sluggish tickets. 1400 01:21:27,382 --> 01:21:29,646 I'm not-- and I'm not embarrassed by that. 1401 01:21:29,684 --> 01:21:31,709 So I don't feel the need to put a spin on it. 1402 01:21:31,753 --> 01:21:34,881 But I think it had gotten to the point where it was just kind of scary-- 1403 01:21:34,923 --> 01:21:37,118 when the ticket sales were sluggish-- 1404 01:21:37,158 --> 01:21:39,649 that we had committed to a lot of people. 1405 01:21:39,694 --> 01:21:44,563 You know, these people depended on us for the next six months of their lives. 1406 01:21:44,599 --> 01:21:49,161 It's a huge burden and, at the same time, it's a lot of stress. 1407 01:22:01,016 --> 01:22:04,884 We know everyone's been hearing a lot of rumors about the tour... 1408 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,854 what's happening, 1409 01:22:06,888 --> 01:22:09,914 and we just wanted to settle all the rumors, 1410 01:22:09,958 --> 01:22:14,486 just saying that we will be starting the tour on the 21st of July as planned. 1411 01:22:14,529 --> 01:22:16,929 Oh-oh-- we did want to say though 1412 01:22:16,965 --> 01:22:19,433 we are having to cut corners 1413 01:22:19,467 --> 01:22:23,369 in places and meat's expensive and y'all drink a lot of beers 1414 01:22:23,405 --> 01:22:26,499 so both of those are off. 1415 01:22:47,862 --> 01:22:51,025 If you gauge your career 1416 01:22:51,066 --> 01:22:54,968 by how many people buy your albums or are at the concert, 1417 01:22:55,003 --> 01:22:57,904 I don't think we'll ever be in that place again. 1418 01:22:57,939 --> 01:23:01,705 But, you know, it's giving us this fire back. 1419 01:23:01,743 --> 01:23:04,837 I don't know, there's just something to say for-- 1420 01:23:04,879 --> 01:23:08,371 having that back, that want to... 1421 01:23:08,416 --> 01:23:10,407 garner new fans, or uh... 1422 01:23:10,452 --> 01:23:12,477 just prove yourself all over again. 1423 01:23:21,296 --> 01:23:24,857 I think Natalie still feels pressure about what's happened, 1424 01:23:24,899 --> 01:23:28,266 even though we say over and over and over again, 1425 01:23:28,303 --> 01:23:31,568 "It was the best thing"-- I can tell her that and shake her all day long. 1426 01:23:31,606 --> 01:23:34,666 "It's the best thing that ever happened to me. It's the best thing 1427 01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:36,438 that ever happened to our career. 1428 01:23:36,478 --> 01:23:39,447 We'd never change it. You're fine. 1429 01:23:39,481 --> 01:23:42,245 You didn't do anything." 1430 01:23:47,689 --> 01:23:50,157 And I just think she still-- 1431 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,724 she still, um... 1432 01:23:54,763 --> 01:23:57,857 feels responsible. 1433 01:23:57,899 --> 01:24:01,335 And if she came to me tomorrow and said, 1434 01:24:01,369 --> 01:24:04,998 "I don't want to tour. I don't want to record anymore. 1435 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,167 I don't want to do this," 1436 01:24:07,208 --> 01:24:11,542 I care for her. I'd say, "Okay." I'd give up my career... 1437 01:24:11,579 --> 01:24:15,413 for her to be happy, be at peace. 1438 01:25:19,681 --> 01:25:23,549 It's great to be back at Shepherds Bush. 1439 01:25:26,788 --> 01:25:30,246 The return to the scene of the crime. 1440 01:25:40,368 --> 01:25:43,769 And all week, the only thing people keep asking is, 1441 01:25:43,805 --> 01:25:46,797 "What are you gonna say? Do you know what you're gonna say?" 1442 01:25:46,841 --> 01:25:50,538 As usual, I didn't plan anything, 1443 01:25:50,578 --> 01:25:52,569 but I thought I'd say something brand new 1444 01:25:52,614 --> 01:25:54,377 and just say, "Just so you know, 1445 01:25:54,415 --> 01:25:57,578 we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."117309

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