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[Amber]
Johnny is a wonderful person to work with.
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He's got so much to offer.
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I think he's just-
he's almost too good for the industry.
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[Johnny] Meeting an actress
like Amber Heard,
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it's like walking into a room
and meeting Lauren Bacall.
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She's quite something,
you know.
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[interviewer] First question, is this
like a film come true to make with Johnny Depp?
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It's torture. Yes, torture.
But I survived.
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Uh.
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[Johnny] A wonderful
Southern belle, sweet as can be...
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and very good for me.
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[reporter 1] Hey, Amber.
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[reporter 2] Hey, Amber,
did Johnny give you that bruise on your face?
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Amber?
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[reporter 3] Johnny Depp
accused of domestic abuse in his sudden split
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from actress Amber Heard.
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[reporter 2]
Did Johnny brutalize you?
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[reporter 3] She says,
Johnny smashed her face with an iPhone,
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leaving her with this bruise.
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[reporter 4]
In a story about him
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and his then wife,
Amber Heard,
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a U.K. newspaper
called Johnny Depp a "wife-beater."
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[Jenny] I know he was shocked
and appalled
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by such a serious allegation
being made against him.
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So damaging
and completely untrue.
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He felt compelled
to bring the proceedings.
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He had to clear his name.
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You lot, get out the way.
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Let him through!
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I'm screaming help
as loud as I can
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and I...
I also text Rocky, previous,
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"It's amping up."
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[Johnny] Oh, you're crazy.
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Are you crazy?
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[Amber] Have you drunk
this whole thing this morning?
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[Johnny]
Oh, you got this going? You got this going?
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[Amber] You started it.
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- [Johnny] Oh, really?
- [Amber] Yes.
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[Johnny] Really?
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She threw
a vodka bottle at me.
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All the bone in here
was completely shattered.
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I mean, it's-
it looked like Vesuvius.
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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[pop song playing]
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[vehicles honking]
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[distant siren blaring]
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[cameraman]
Rolling on Middleton.
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[Dylan] In the last 12 years,
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I seem
to have become embroiled
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in some of the biggest
tabloid stories in America.
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And I can say
that at the very top of Murdoch's British empire,
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there was genuine concern
about this lawsuit.
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I know that. I was told that.
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Sources from withinside
the newsroom
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were very concerned about the reputational
damage that The Sun would take
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if they lost this case.
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I certainly believe
that Johnny Depp had a choice,
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the court of law
or the court of public opinion.
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He decided and has decided
to use the court of law as a vehicle to attempt
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to exonerate himself
of the allegations leveled against him,
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because Hollywood Studios
in 2021 no longer support people
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that are accused
of being wife-beaters.
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Yeah, the reality
is Johnny Depp's career
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has been absolutely
damaged by this.
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[man] Not only is he going
to be labeled forevermore as a wife-beater.
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It means that authors like
J.K. Rowling are gonna find it
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very difficult to have him
in their films.
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Disney are gonna find it
very difficult to have him in their films.
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What studio
is gonna pick him?
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I think, I don't think
it's going to be a domino effect.
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I think
it's going to be a cliff.
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I think
this might be the last time we hear from him.
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[woman] ...those studios,
they're gonna wait to see what this...
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[Jenny] Once these allegations
were made against him,
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I think he referred
to himself as Quasimodo.
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So, this case was incredibly
important
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in having to try
to clear your name.
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A huge amount of your private information
has to be aired in open court,
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which, particularly
if you're a private person,
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is really difficult
to go through.
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So, you wouldn't do
any of that unless you thought that the benefits,
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um, or the need was so strong
that you put yourself through all of that.
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This is his life
and his reputation on trial,
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literally on trial.
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[reporter]
Johnny Depp, he's back in a London courtroom
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fighting for what seems like
his career.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[narrator] Johnny Depp
is suing The Sun Newspaper over an article
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which called him
a "wife-beater."
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[woman 2] Johnny,
we love you, darling.
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[narrator]
Amber Heard, who first made the allegations,
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was also in court today.
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She arrived supported
by friends through a side entrance.
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[man]
Do not move forward, stay where you are.
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[Minnie] I've been all around
the world and covered many criminal court cases.
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But this was the story
which gave you
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kind of unparalleled access
to the lives of celebrities
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who mostly live
on kind of private islands,
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get about in private jets.
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And this was a moment where you could
sort of see, in excruciating detail,
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what was going on behind
the scenes.
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[crowd cheering]
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The first day of trial was,
um, slightly surreal.
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My team, several colleagues,
hadn't yet gone to bed.
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They'd been working through
the night just finalizing
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the last trial documents.
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So, we went into court.
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Then I knew
Johnny was arriving.
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I just came down to the steps,
met him.
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There was the crowd outside,
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which you don't normally
get in any hearings.
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[woman 3]
Justice for Johnny.
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Do you want your hair cut?
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Justice for Johnny.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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- Morning.
- [reporter] Morning.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[David] I was brought
into the case to lead the trial.
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There have been
other high-profile trials,
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as you can imagine,
but this, I think,
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must rank as one of
the most high profile that there's ever been.
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[narrator]
The case was interesting
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because the defendant
was not his former wife, Amber Heard.
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It was The Sun newspaper.
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One of the most influential newspapers,
obviously, in this country.
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And one does ask the question,
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why would Johnny Depp
have taken that course to go all the way to trial
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and expose, risk exposing
the very little privacy
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he's managed to maintain despite his
international sort of success and profile,
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unless he believed
those allegations were completely untrue.
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[David] From the outset,
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our focus was on demonstrating
that The Sun's star witness,
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Amber Heard, was lying.
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I traveled here to the U.K.
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to testify as a witness
to assist the court.
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After obtaining a restraining order
in 2016 and finalizing my divorce.
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I just wanted to move on
with my life.
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[man] You're a liar!
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One of the quite
unusual features of the case
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is that there was so much
evidence taken
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during the course
of their relationship.
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Amber Heard
took a number of photographs.
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There were also texts.
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There were documents,
there were even medical notes,
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but there were
also secret recordings that were made.
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[indistinct
Amber's recorded voice]
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[Johnny on recorder]
I don't want a divorce.
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And I never wanted
a fucking divorce.
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I say secret, some of them.
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One of them was made
by Amber Heard herself then others were made
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where both of them knew
they were recording each other
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as part of the sort of
therapeutic process.
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[Amber speaking]
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[David] There was also
video of which Amber Heard
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had secretly recorded
of Johnny Depp.
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[Johnny] Ah!
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Motherfucker!
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Motherfucker!
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[Amber] What happened?
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[David] And one does have
to ask why she was doing that.
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She said at trial
that she was doing it
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because she wanted to show
Johnny Depp the next day what she says he did.
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Whether or not Johnny Depp
was guilty of beating up Amber Heard.
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I don't know the truth,
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and I don't think many people
will ever really know the truth
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about what happened
behind closed doors.
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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- [Amber speaking]
- [Johnny speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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[David] But she never did show
any of them to him.
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Those recordings
and the contents of the recordings
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were so important, we felt,
in undermining the case.
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- Justice for Johnny!
- Justice for Johnny!
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Justice for Johnny!
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[woman]
"Abuse has no gender."
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[man] Is that Wass there?
Oh, there's Wass. There.
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[Minnie] Sasha Wass QC,
who represented The Sun in court,
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was this incredible
powerhouse.
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She was the
sort of High Priestess of the high court.
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It is impossible
to sort of not be caught up in her aura
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and she absolutely dissected
Johnny Depp in the stand.
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It was kind of
like a masterclass
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in how to cross-examine
somebody.
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[Sasha] I was given three days
to question Mr. Depp.
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Um, Mr. Depp was used to
being interviewed,
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so he was adept
at answering questions,
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but perhaps not in a way
that was appropriate for a court scenario.
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[reporter]
Depp was the first to give evidence here,
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and while
on the witness stand,
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he was asked repeatedly
whether he had anger management issues,
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something he denied.
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[David] He admitted freely
to the fact
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that he had problems
with alcohol and drugs
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in the sense
that he did drink a lot.
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And as he explained the fact that
it didn't have an enormous effect on him
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and, um,
in certain circumstances.
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[Minnie] He was asked
Johnny Depp in court, you know,
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"What kind of drugs
have you taken?"
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And he reeled off this kind of
exhaustive list saying he'd taken LSD,
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mushrooms, prescription drugs,
cocaine, MDMA, but not ketamine.
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He was very clear about that.
I have never taken ketamine.
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And you could
kind of sort of see
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all the journalists almost
sniggering at that point.
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All the extraneous information
came out
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about how he was taking
industrial quantities of illegal drugs,
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how he was addicted
to alcohol.
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Johnny being so candid
and so honest, we felt,
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uh, gave
such a good representation of his credibility.
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And I think
that was a feature of the way
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he gave his evidence
was just to tell the truth and be honest.
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The evidence
was that Mr. Depp started abusing drink and drugs
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in March 2013
after a long period of abstinence.
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On one occasion,
Ms. Heard laughed at a tattoo of his,
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which read, "Wino Forever".
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It had been changed
from "Winona Forever".
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And although she had seen it
many times before,
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on this occasion,
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she ridiculed the fact
that he was a wino
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and he took ill
at this suggestion
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and beat her and smacked her
about the face,
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which was the first time,
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according to her
this had happened.
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And it's an occasion
she remembered very clearly.
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What Sasha Wass QC
wanted to get across
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is that this was not
a one-off incident,
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that he had repeatedly
behaved like this
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and this was
a pattern of behavior of a domestic abuser.
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[Sasha] Amber Heard described
him in two very different ways.
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There was the charming,
sober, clean Mr. Depp,
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who was a joy to be around.
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And then there was the man
who would be drunk,
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violent and disagreeable.
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- [Johnny speaking]
- [Amber speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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Mr. Depp knew
that when he was
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under the influence
of drink and drugs,
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he behaved extremely badly.
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And he created a name
for that nasty side to his character.
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And the name
was the "Monster."
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[Johnny speaking]
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- [Amber] Of me?
- [Johnny] Yes.
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Minnie] Just what the monster meant
became a central part of this case.
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Was the monster
a prolific domestic abuser?
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Was the monster
in Johnny Depp's eyes,
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just a much more kind of casual
term used for when he lost his temper?
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[Amber] ...because-
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Amber speaking]
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[David] When you listen to
what they were actually saying to each other
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at the time in private, her real complaint
was that when they had an argument,
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far from him hitting her
or squaring up to her or anything similar,
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in fact,
Johnny Depp would leave.
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He would split,
as she described it.
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She- He would run away
from the argument.
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[Johnny speaking]
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Now, that's precisely
the opposite sort of behavior you would expect
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from someone
who is supposed to be,
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um, a domestic abuser.
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Amber Heard
was unable to deal with that.
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[Amber speaking]
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[Johnny speaking]
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[Amber] Mm-hmm.
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[Johnny speaking]
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Seriously, you know,
like, sit down.
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[David] He was no monster.
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And a number of witnesses
came forward to say,
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he was an incredibly kind,
generous person.
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Here in no man's land,
Johnny Depp country.
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Come on, I'll show you
where Johnny's club is.
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In the summer of 2019,
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I got a call
from Amber Heard's lawyer.
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And he said,
"Amber wants to do an investigation
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on her ex-husband,
Johnny Depp."
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And of course,
I already knew what it was.
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It's like,
"Find, get the dirt."
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It's always get the dirt
on somebody.
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And I remember asking,
one of the first questions I asked was,
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"Do you want me to look
into Johnny's follies and vices of the past?"
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And, "Absolutely."
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And I suggested I go
as far back as The Viper Room.
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[Joaquin Phoenix on radio]
Can you just get over here, please?
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[dispatcher]
Yeah, slow down, okay?
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- [Joaquin] Where is the guy?
- [dispatcher] Okay.
295
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- We have help on the way.
- [Joaquin] I know.
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[reporter]
That 23-year-old actor,
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River Phoenix, stumbled out of
this trendy sunset nightclub
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known as The Viper Room
and died of a massive drug overdose.
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[David] Amber knew
that that was a time
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and a place where there was
a lot of drugs,
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sex and rock and roll
and alleged backroom deals.
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[narrator] His friends say
Phoenix had been
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in the words of one of them,
"acting strange".
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At this point in time,
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the exact cause of death
is still under investigation.
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[reporter] Los Angeles
homicide detectives say
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an autopsy will take place
in the next few days
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and should reveal what caused
the young actor's death.
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[Paul] I looked to see if there was
anything going on based on the rumors,
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whether it was drug dealing,
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prostitution
or illegal gambling,
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to find out
if there was any facts behind those allegations.
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What you saw of Johnny Depp,
did he seem like an...
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I spoke
with some of the employees.
315
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He's a really nice guy.
316
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[Paul] I spoke
with some of the patrons.
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I got ahold of
Johnny's ex-girlfriends.
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Winona Ryder,
Kate Moss, even Traci Lords.
319
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I'm trying to find behavior that's
consistent with him being abusive to women.
320
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Well, what about you?
321
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One thing that holds true
is that not one person
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had one deprecating thing
to say about Johnny.
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And in fact, a lot of people
said that Johnny is generous beyond the pale.
324
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He pays
his friend's medical bills.
325
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He pays his friends',
family rent,
326
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uh, legal fees.
327
00:20:21,551 --> 00:20:23,211
Someone's in a bind,
328
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he's always been there
to help.
329
00:20:28,827 --> 00:20:30,827
That says a lot about the man.
330
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And I admire him for that.
331
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- This is Johnny Depp.
- Hi.
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Star of A Nightmare
on Elm Street, private resort.
333
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And... has a bulging wad.
334
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[laughter]
335
00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:49,450
[man] ...show at $39.95.
336
00:20:49,482 --> 00:20:51,662
Well, anyway,
look who we have here.
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To our right, upstage right.
338
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One day, Bruce came to me.
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He said, "Man,
I got this guy, Johnny.
340
00:20:58,793 --> 00:21:00,693
He's coming to me
every day saying,
341
00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,481
'I want to join the band.
I want to join the band.
342
00:21:02,482 --> 00:21:04,172
Come on,
I want to join the band.'"
343
00:21:05,689 --> 00:21:09,169
Well, that was, that was our
friend Johnny Depp.
344
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[announcer] All right.
It's a big band, ladies and gentlemen,
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special guest, Johnny Depp.
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I wanna say yama diggy.
347
00:21:15,068 --> 00:21:17,208
Yama diggy. Yama diggy.
348
00:21:22,655 --> 00:21:24,965
[Dylan] Johnny
had this look about him.
349
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His whole persona was,
like, very mysterious.
350
00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:34,101
He was absolutely
more of an introvert.
351
00:21:35,689 --> 00:21:36,899
He wasn't that partier.
352
00:21:36,931 --> 00:21:39,621
He wasn't that womanizer
back in those days.
353
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But he was the pretty boy.
354
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[woman 5] Move over,
Marlon Brando.
355
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Make way for Johnny Depp,
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00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:53,615
the new master
of the misfit role
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famous as the teen pin-up
who couldn't stand his heartthrob status,
358
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Johnny's made a...
359
00:21:57,658 --> 00:21:59,240
[Minnie] What's fascinating
about Johnny Depp
360
00:21:59,241 --> 00:22:01,931
is that he is
the Hollywood outsider.
361
00:22:03,344 --> 00:22:04,524
Born in Kentucky,
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00:22:04,525 --> 00:22:07,102
he describes
himself as a sort of southern gentleman.
363
00:22:07,103 --> 00:22:11,623
You know, he moves to L.A.
in the '80s with his band.
364
00:22:11,655 --> 00:22:15,305
He's... Suddenly he gets
mainstream success.
365
00:22:15,306 --> 00:22:18,343
But he's kind of not
the conventional actor in many respects.
366
00:22:18,344 --> 00:22:19,516
- Hello.
- [reporter] Hi.
367
00:22:19,517 --> 00:22:20,723
- Good to see here.
- Oh, thanks.
368
00:22:20,724 --> 00:22:22,619
[reporter]
Are you a big fan of independent filmmakers?
369
00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,720
Yeah, yeah, very much. Yeah.
370
00:22:24,721 --> 00:22:26,688
[Minnie]
He's always been alternative.
371
00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:31,549
The least important thing to me is
becoming famous and being well known and,
372
00:22:31,586 --> 00:22:34,716
you know,
trying to be everybody's hero.
373
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That's not what I'm about.
374
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[Minnie] That's I think,
important to him and his essence as an actor.
375
00:22:40,111 --> 00:22:44,067
Edward Scissorhands,
he's this incredibly vulnerable,
376
00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:48,338
emo character
who has broad appeal.
377
00:22:48,379 --> 00:22:51,589
Kids watch him,
adults watch him.
378
00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,970
[Bill] And then Fear
and Loathing.
379
00:22:53,971 --> 00:22:55,861
They want me to go to
Las Vegas at once,
380
00:22:55,862 --> 00:22:58,999
and make contact
with a Portuguese photographer named Lacerda.
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00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,274
[Bill]
What the hell was that, man?
382
00:23:00,275 --> 00:23:02,135
That was just, wow!
383
00:23:02,136 --> 00:23:03,723
You didn't know
where he was gonna be
384
00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:06,384
coming
from the next time around.
385
00:23:06,413 --> 00:23:08,763
But again,
he's the Hollywood outsider.
386
00:23:08,793 --> 00:23:11,833
You know, he's unconventional
in all of these roles.
387
00:23:11,862 --> 00:23:13,972
You know which way,
uh, is the hospital?
388
00:23:13,973 --> 00:23:17,205
[Minnie] Since then,
we've seen him as Jack Sparrow on our screens,
389
00:23:17,206 --> 00:23:20,926
and he often pops up
in children's hospitals doing charity work.
390
00:23:20,965 --> 00:23:24,025
I felt the need to...
[mimicking Jack Sparrow]
391
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:33,690
There's something to be
said about a good-looking dude
392
00:23:33,724 --> 00:23:39,594
who loves rock and roll music
and women swoon over.
393
00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:43,590
It almost places him
in this untouchable area,
394
00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,550
and Johnny was able to
trade off the back of that
395
00:23:46,586 --> 00:23:49,996
and not really be
a fixture of the tabloid news set,
396
00:23:50,034 --> 00:23:54,214
despite being
one of the great actors of a generation.
397
00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:55,792
[reporter] While
we've been so occupied
398
00:23:55,793 --> 00:23:58,213
by the breakup of Tom Cruise
and Katie Holmes,
399
00:23:58,241 --> 00:24:02,831
we almost forgot
about another of this year's high-profile splits.
400
00:24:02,832 --> 00:24:05,136
[Dylan] But all of a sudden
something happened...
401
00:24:05,137 --> 00:24:08,857
[reporter] Johnny Depp
and Vanessa Paradis break up.
402
00:24:08,896 --> 00:24:11,206
[Dylan] ...a mid-life crisis.
403
00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,411
Where he left
his family and found love.
404
00:24:14,762 --> 00:24:18,895
[Bill] The one
and only person, actually,
405
00:24:18,896 --> 00:24:22,206
that I've ever met that's been
in Johnny's life was Vanessa,
406
00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:24,481
you know,
the mother of his kids.
407
00:24:24,517 --> 00:24:29,207
Just a beautiful soul,
you know, beautiful lady.
408
00:24:29,241 --> 00:24:35,791
He had something special
with Vanessa and he fucked it up.
409
00:24:35,827 --> 00:24:37,517
[indistinct chatter]
410
00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:39,619
[reporter] Hey, Johnny.
Are you really hitting Amber Heard?
411
00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,280
[indistinct chatter]
412
00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:45,550
[Minnie] In 2009, he meets Amber
Heard on the set of Rum Diary.
413
00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:51,546
I think I was forced to watch
the whole of the Rum Diary
414
00:24:51,586 --> 00:24:53,576
because I was reviewing it
at the time,
415
00:24:53,577 --> 00:24:55,964
which was difficult
to endure the whole thing,
416
00:24:55,965 --> 00:24:57,785
I have to say.
417
00:24:57,827 --> 00:25:01,067
I don't think it's going to be
a film either of them are proud of.
418
00:25:01,103 --> 00:25:02,663
You want a little bet?
419
00:25:04,724 --> 00:25:05,904
Bet about what?
420
00:25:05,931 --> 00:25:07,901
That you scream before I do.
421
00:25:10,448 --> 00:25:14,168
[Minnie] At the time
she is still married to her wife.
422
00:25:14,206 --> 00:25:18,516
But later Amber Heard and Johnny
Depp turn out in the premiere together.
423
00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:20,031
So, this is the big moment
424
00:25:20,068 --> 00:25:23,378
when Johnny Depp
and Amber Heard come out as a couple.
425
00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:29,663
She just saw him coming.
426
00:25:29,689 --> 00:25:35,589
She got the opportunity to be
a part of that film and she worked it.
427
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:37,861
- [reporter]
What's your guilty pleasure? - Whoa.
428
00:25:37,862 --> 00:25:39,481
[reporter]
Do you just go all out?
429
00:25:39,482 --> 00:25:40,622
You know what?
430
00:25:40,655 --> 00:25:42,655
I have
a lot of guilty pleasures,
431
00:25:42,689 --> 00:25:44,659
but none of which
I will tell you.
432
00:25:44,660 --> 00:25:46,861
[reporter] So there's nothing
moderation, nothing you just go...
433
00:25:46,862 --> 00:25:48,722
Yes.
I go full out on everything.
434
00:25:48,723 --> 00:25:50,136
[reporter]
That's fantastic. We love...
435
00:25:50,137 --> 00:25:51,997
We love to hear that.
Great.
436
00:25:53,862 --> 00:25:55,722
Never met the woman.
437
00:25:55,758 --> 00:25:59,068
I do understand
that she's half his age.
438
00:25:59,103 --> 00:26:01,243
I get it.
439
00:26:01,275 --> 00:26:03,585
Okay, John, she's 25.
440
00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:06,070
I get it.
Don't marry her.
441
00:26:06,103 --> 00:26:08,453
You don't need to marry her.
You're Johnny Depp.
442
00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:17,900
[Johnny speaking]
443
00:26:17,931 --> 00:26:19,761
[Amber speaking]
444
00:26:19,793 --> 00:26:24,623
[Johnny speaking]
445
00:26:24,915 --> 00:26:31,067
[interviewer] Can I take
that as confirmation of your engagement?
446
00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:32,928
You can take
that any way you like.
447
00:26:32,965 --> 00:26:34,405
Absolutely.
448
00:26:34,448 --> 00:26:36,618
[chuckles]
449
00:26:36,655 --> 00:26:39,785
Everything changed.
Everything changed.
450
00:26:39,827 --> 00:26:42,967
It's like he totally
just lost his mind.
451
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,450
I had the great pleasure
452
00:26:45,482 --> 00:26:50,312
and... and honor of kissing
a co-star in the Rum Diary.
453
00:26:50,313 --> 00:26:52,343
[reporter] Your young lady,
your young love.
454
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,214
And we know you're a romantic.
455
00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:57,001
So, just how romantic are you?
456
00:26:57,034 --> 00:26:58,904
- How romantic am I?
- [reporter] Yes.
457
00:27:01,172 --> 00:27:04,212
Um... I'm romantic enough
to not be afraid to wake up
458
00:27:04,241 --> 00:27:07,411
a loved one
in the middle of the night with a silly song.
459
00:27:07,448 --> 00:27:09,968
Like something real, real bad.
460
00:27:12,482 --> 00:27:14,482
Ruined his life.
461
00:27:14,517 --> 00:27:17,547
Really did. Look at it.
462
00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:19,516
Totally fucked
his career over.
463
00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:24,658
Cost him his friends,
part of his family.
464
00:27:30,172 --> 00:27:31,432
Haven't talked to the man.
465
00:27:31,448 --> 00:27:34,928
He hasn't talked to Bruce...
since any of this happened.
466
00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:38,030
Everything changed.
467
00:27:42,379 --> 00:27:44,209
She got inside John's head...
468
00:27:48,103 --> 00:27:52,243
and made him absolutely
crazy to the point
469
00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:56,585
where he was drinking
and drugging...
470
00:27:58,655 --> 00:28:00,925
to the point of just insanity.
471
00:28:08,931 --> 00:28:10,901
[doorbell rings]
472
00:28:10,931 --> 00:28:13,591
[objects clattering]
473
00:28:19,206 --> 00:28:22,656
[Johnny] Ah! Motherfucker!
474
00:28:22,689 --> 00:28:24,139
Motherfucker.
475
00:28:24,172 --> 00:28:25,622
[Amber] What happened?
476
00:28:33,413 --> 00:28:35,143
What happened?
477
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,410
[cabinet doors smashing]
478
00:29:02,137 --> 00:29:04,487
Nothing happened this morning.
You know that?
479
00:29:06,896 --> 00:29:09,096
- [Johnny] Were you in here?
- [Amber] No.
480
00:29:09,097 --> 00:29:11,343
[Johnny]
So then nothing happened to you this morning.
481
00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:12,481
[Amber] Yeah, you're right.
482
00:29:12,482 --> 00:29:14,972
I just woke up
and you were so sweet and nice.
483
00:29:15,424 --> 00:29:19,205
We were not even fighting
this morning.
484
00:29:19,206 --> 00:29:20,586
All I did was say, sorry.
485
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:25,690
[Johnny] Did something happen
to you this morning?
486
00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:27,244
I don't think so.
487
00:29:31,172 --> 00:29:32,932
[Amber] No.
That's the thing.
488
00:29:32,933 --> 00:29:34,033
You want to see crazy,
489
00:29:34,034 --> 00:29:36,454
I'll give you fucking crazy.
I'll give you crazy.
490
00:29:38,724 --> 00:29:40,344
Oh, you're crazy.
491
00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:41,519
Are you crazy?
492
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,378
[Amber] Have you drunk
this whole thing this morning?
493
00:29:43,379 --> 00:29:44,516
[Johnny]
Oh, you got this going?
494
00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:46,240
- You got this going?
- [Amber] I just started it.
495
00:29:46,241 --> 00:29:47,585
- [Johnny] Oh, really?
- Yes.
496
00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:48,756
[Johnny] Really?
497
00:29:52,295 --> 00:29:56,240
Sneak that shit on me,
you motherfucker.
498
00:29:56,241 --> 00:29:58,721
[Amber] No. I didn't.
You were smashing shit.
499
00:29:58,758 --> 00:30:02,338
[Jenny]
The kitchen video scene looked bad first time
500
00:30:02,379 --> 00:30:03,759
it was played in court.
501
00:30:03,793 --> 00:30:06,763
You're not used to hearing
swearing in court
502
00:30:06,793 --> 00:30:10,593
and seeing someone banging
a kitchen cupboard.
503
00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:14,660
But we also insisted
that the entire video be played,
504
00:30:14,689 --> 00:30:17,789
as opposed to the clips
the defendants had pulled out.
505
00:30:31,724 --> 00:30:35,144
And at the end you see
Ms. Heard smirking,
506
00:30:35,172 --> 00:30:40,242
and you see that this is not
someone who is in any fear of Johnny,
507
00:30:40,275 --> 00:30:44,655
but is just pleased to have caught
him on camera acting in this way.
508
00:30:44,689 --> 00:30:46,379
[David]
The case for Johnny Depp
509
00:30:46,413 --> 00:30:51,973
relied on questioning
the credibility of Amber Heard.
510
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,310
He grabs...
Uh, he grabs my head, um,
511
00:30:57,862 --> 00:31:01,762
takes a fistful of my hair
and says, "I hit your eye?
512
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,723
I hit your eye, huh?
Let me see your eye.
513
00:31:03,758 --> 00:31:05,378
Let me see.
Let me see your eye.
514
00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:07,173
What if I pull
your hair back?"
515
00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:12,716
And he yanks my head back
and he's, I don't know, smacking my face
516
00:31:12,758 --> 00:31:17,448
or moving my face
or and he's got me by the hair and, um...
517
00:31:20,793 --> 00:31:23,693
It's hard to describe it.
518
00:31:23,694 --> 00:31:25,964
[David] There had
already been depositions,
519
00:31:25,965 --> 00:31:28,515
which is the American
form of taking evidence
520
00:31:28,516 --> 00:31:31,688
and witness statements
in the divorce proceedings in America.
521
00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:35,969
At this time,
and he said, um...
522
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,280
He's yanking me
from side to side with my hair.
523
00:31:40,281 --> 00:31:41,792
[Blair] Are you standing up
at this time?
524
00:31:41,793 --> 00:31:43,073
- Yeah.
- [Blair] Okay.
525
00:31:43,103 --> 00:31:46,003
And has he pulled out any hair
from your head?
526
00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,484
Uh... He's still holding
on to my head...
527
00:31:48,517 --> 00:31:49,617
[Blair] Okay.
528
00:31:49,655 --> 00:31:52,585
...at this time.
And he said, um...
529
00:31:52,586 --> 00:31:54,136
There were
a number of examples
530
00:31:54,137 --> 00:31:59,617
of where Amber Heard's
evidence changed either from previous depositions
531
00:31:59,655 --> 00:32:02,545
or from the English
proceedings,
532
00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:04,723
where she had given
the witness statements earlier.
533
00:32:04,724 --> 00:32:07,724
And it's an opportunity
then to test that evidence
534
00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:09,508
against
the previous statements.
535
00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:30,210
I'm truly sorry that Pistol
and Boo were not declared.
536
00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:33,001
Protecting Australia
is important.
537
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:35,384
Declare everything
when you enter Australia.
538
00:32:36,517 --> 00:32:39,897
So, in 2015, when Johnny Depp
and Amber Heard went to Australia,
539
00:32:39,898 --> 00:32:42,723
there was this ridiculous
moment that many people will remember
540
00:32:42,724 --> 00:32:46,344
when they basically
illegally smuggled their two micro dogs Boo
541
00:32:46,379 --> 00:32:47,789
and Pistol into Australia,
542
00:32:47,827 --> 00:32:50,097
and it sparked
a huge diplomatic war.
543
00:32:50,137 --> 00:32:54,207
In the end they had to eventually
apologize to the nation of Australia
544
00:32:54,208 --> 00:32:57,171
and Amber Heard
and Johnny Depp did this sort of faux apology
545
00:32:57,172 --> 00:32:58,930
where they were
kind of sniggering together
546
00:32:58,931 --> 00:33:00,901
and did
the sort of faux serious,
547
00:33:00,902 --> 00:33:03,654
"We are sorry to the nation
of Australia for smuggling our dogs"
548
00:33:03,655 --> 00:33:05,343
where they basically
were giggling together.
549
00:33:05,344 --> 00:33:08,516
And at that point it seems
like they were sort of two kindred spirits,
550
00:33:08,517 --> 00:33:10,688
you know, that they were
kind of very much aligned.
551
00:33:10,689 --> 00:33:12,723
[Jimmy] Did you smuggle
the dogs into the country?
552
00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:14,895
[Johnny] There might have been
other things smuggled.
553
00:33:14,896 --> 00:33:18,026
[audience laughing]
554
00:33:18,027 --> 00:33:21,688
[Minnie] The world watched
this theater of the dog smuggling in Australia.
555
00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,829
But behind closed doors
it wasn't a laughing matter.
556
00:33:26,931 --> 00:33:29,241
[director]
And three, two, one.
557
00:33:29,275 --> 00:33:30,585
Hit.
558
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:34,590
[Dylan] At the time
of filming Pirates in Australia,
559
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:38,000
I had a source very close
to the situation
560
00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:42,664
who had preemptively told me
that Johnny was off the rails.
561
00:33:42,689 --> 00:33:49,069
And that his behavior on set
was causing disruption to the production
562
00:33:49,103 --> 00:33:53,033
and people's patience
was wearing very thin.
563
00:33:53,034 --> 00:33:57,378
[Tom Steinfort]
Johnny and Amber wanted their wild lifestyle here
564
00:33:57,379 --> 00:33:58,699
to be out of the public eye,
565
00:33:58,724 --> 00:34:01,104
and it turns out
for very good reason.
566
00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:03,067
Bombshell evidence
seen at London courtroom
567
00:34:03,068 --> 00:34:05,208
is now spelled out
for the first time
568
00:34:05,241 --> 00:34:08,411
what really went on
behind these gates.
569
00:34:08,412 --> 00:34:11,481
Amber Heard alleges
that while they were on their trip to Australia,
570
00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:15,452
Johnny Depp had actually held Amber
Heard hostage, she said, for three days.
571
00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:18,552
She said that she had
feared for her life.
572
00:34:18,553 --> 00:34:21,343
[reporter]
She says she remembers him swigging whiskey,
573
00:34:21,344 --> 00:34:26,004
as he repeatedly threw bottles
at her like they were bombs or grenades.
574
00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,414
Depp was manic.
575
00:34:28,448 --> 00:34:31,998
He was abusing drugs...
very seriously.
576
00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:37,764
Smashed up the house.
There was about $150,000 worth of damage.
577
00:34:37,793 --> 00:34:42,483
Graffiti on works of art,
glass everywhere.
578
00:34:42,517 --> 00:34:45,377
And according to her evidence,
579
00:34:45,413 --> 00:34:50,103
he completely lost
his self-control.
580
00:34:50,104 --> 00:34:52,654
[David] Amber Heard said
that over the course of three days,
581
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,065
he went mad on drink,
582
00:34:55,103 --> 00:34:58,073
drugs and smashed up
this house.
583
00:34:58,103 --> 00:34:59,863
At one point, she says,
584
00:34:59,896 --> 00:35:02,066
he sliced off
his own fingertip
585
00:35:02,103 --> 00:35:04,593
and then started painting
the walls.
586
00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:05,760
[indistinct chatter]
587
00:35:05,793 --> 00:35:08,523
[reporter] Are you enjoying
the Gold Coast, Johnny?
588
00:35:08,551 --> 00:35:12,311
[David] The story
that Amber Heard gave was just fantastical,
589
00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:17,074
that she was having to walk
through broken glass
590
00:35:17,103 --> 00:35:20,453
and dragged across a table
with glass all over it.
591
00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:23,972
Her skin was shredded
and her feet had cuts over it
592
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,550
and that this was
a three-day hostage situation.
593
00:35:29,241 --> 00:35:33,931
When you listen to the way
in which Amber Heard gave her evidence in court,
594
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,995
it does appear
that she wasn't telling the truth.
595
00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:46,592
[indistinct chatter]
596
00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:48,480
[man speaking]
597
00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,413
[indistinct chatter]
598
00:35:50,448 --> 00:35:51,658
[Dr. Kipper speaking]
599
00:36:00,310 --> 00:36:02,100
[Debbie speaking]
600
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:08,340
[David] Not only had
she the means to leave the house,
601
00:36:08,379 --> 00:36:10,069
she only had to open, I think,
602
00:36:10,103 --> 00:36:12,593
the French windows
and exit the building.
603
00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:16,070
There was also a recording
that was, I think,
604
00:36:16,103 --> 00:36:19,243
five-hour recording
that was made by a device
605
00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:23,925
which apparently accidentally
recorded what was going on.
606
00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:27,235
[Jerry speaking]
607
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:45,999
[David] And what you can hear
from that recording
608
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,170
and what was in the transcript
of it supports the suggestion that we always said
609
00:36:51,206 --> 00:36:54,376
that Amber Heard started
an argument at one point
610
00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:58,723
and that there were
no real injuries to her.
611
00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:02,548
There was a very real injury
to Johnny Depp.
612
00:37:02,586 --> 00:37:05,786
She threw
a vodka bottle at me.
613
00:37:05,827 --> 00:37:11,547
My hand was resting
on the marble of the bar like that.
614
00:37:11,586 --> 00:37:16,136
And the first bottle
went just past my ear.
615
00:37:16,172 --> 00:37:18,902
And the second one
was a larger bottle.
616
00:37:18,931 --> 00:37:21,791
And she threw it from
about this distance
617
00:37:21,827 --> 00:37:26,377
and it smashed into the bar,
618
00:37:26,413 --> 00:37:28,283
which and this,
619
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:32,620
this finger, who I now call
Little Richard,
620
00:37:32,655 --> 00:37:34,095
[chuckles]
um...
621
00:37:36,068 --> 00:37:40,378
was, was...
the tip of the finger was severed.
622
00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:47,213
And the... the- all the-
all the bone in here was completely shattered.
623
00:37:47,241 --> 00:37:49,931
I mean, it's...
it looked like Vesuvius.
624
00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:53,095
[Debbie speaking]
625
00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:57,615
And then I got infections.
626
00:37:57,655 --> 00:38:00,165
I, I, I ended up
with MRSA twice.
627
00:38:00,206 --> 00:38:02,136
So, it's very complicated.
628
00:38:02,137 --> 00:38:04,102
I was trying to just get
the finger back,
629
00:38:04,103 --> 00:38:05,153
you know...
630
00:38:07,379 --> 00:38:14,309
and then deal with the insanity
of having had my finger chopped off
631
00:38:14,344 --> 00:38:16,834
by this woman
that I was married to.
632
00:38:18,413 --> 00:38:21,833
[bodyguard speaking]
633
00:38:46,745 --> 00:38:50,516
[dispatcher] 911 Emergency,
Operative 278.
634
00:38:50,517 --> 00:38:54,477
[woman speaking]
635
00:38:55,321 --> 00:38:58,757
[dispatcher]
Okay, so what did she say
636
00:38:58,758 --> 00:39:00,619
that this guy
was assaulted her or hit her?
637
00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:02,210
[woman speaking]
638
00:39:02,241 --> 00:39:04,291
- [dispatcher] Okay.
- [woman speaking]
639
00:39:12,103 --> 00:39:15,973
[indistinct chatter on radio]
640
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,340
[David] In May of 2016,
just before they split up,
641
00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:21,929
when Johnny Depp returns
to his flat
642
00:39:21,965 --> 00:39:25,335
where Amber is still living
with her friends surrounding her,
643
00:39:25,379 --> 00:39:28,279
he is meant to have thrown
a phone at her.
644
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:32,590
And he leaves, LAPD turn up.
645
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:35,620
- [officer speaking]
- [Johnny speaking]
646
00:39:35,655 --> 00:39:37,655
[officer]
Doing all right. Um...
647
00:39:37,689 --> 00:39:39,999
- [Johnny speaking]
- [officer speaking]
648
00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:41,144
[officer] Okay.
649
00:39:41,172 --> 00:39:43,342
And instead of
making the complaint,
650
00:39:43,379 --> 00:39:45,999
she goes into a room
and takes photographs.
651
00:39:50,172 --> 00:39:53,862
And some photographs
of the injuries she says she suffered.
652
00:39:55,482 --> 00:39:56,552
He's yelling at me.
653
00:39:56,586 --> 00:39:59,336
He's screaming about,
about my,
654
00:39:59,379 --> 00:40:02,029
about... "Let's see
how hard I hit you."
655
00:40:02,068 --> 00:40:06,518
And, um, and I'm screaming
at the top of my lungs.
656
00:40:06,551 --> 00:40:07,901
[Blair] Okay. Oh, man.
657
00:40:07,931 --> 00:40:09,791
"Help! Help! Please help."
658
00:40:09,827 --> 00:40:11,687
I guess I say, "Call 911."
659
00:40:11,724 --> 00:40:12,934
I'm screaming for help,
660
00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:15,375
you know just, in case
iO is on the phone,
661
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:16,553
which I don't know,
662
00:40:16,554 --> 00:40:19,205
because the phone is somewhere
after hitting my face.
663
00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:21,550
I don't know where it
ricocheted and bounced off to,
664
00:40:21,551 --> 00:40:22,791
but it's on the floor.
665
00:40:22,827 --> 00:40:24,517
I can only hope
she's on the line,
666
00:40:24,551 --> 00:40:27,411
but I know and guess
security is somewhere.
667
00:40:27,448 --> 00:40:31,518
And even though, they never respond
when I'm screaming "help", ever.
668
00:40:33,275 --> 00:40:35,445
I'm screaming help
as loud as I can.
669
00:40:35,482 --> 00:40:37,972
I also text Rocky, previous,
670
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,660
"It's amping up.
He's getting crazy again.
671
00:40:40,689 --> 00:40:43,479
Please, just... I need you
to come over,"
672
00:40:43,517 --> 00:40:47,067
because I thought another,
third party might be, um...
673
00:40:48,931 --> 00:40:53,141
A third party being present
helps, always to...
674
00:40:53,142 --> 00:40:57,033
- [Blair] Is it your testimony?
- ...calm things.
675
00:40:57,034 --> 00:40:58,412
[Blair] Is it your testimony
Ms. Heard?
676
00:40:58,413 --> 00:41:00,102
- [Carter] Can we take
a break please? - [Blair] No.
677
00:41:00,103 --> 00:41:01,378
[Carter] She's upset.
She's upset.
678
00:41:01,379 --> 00:41:02,479
[Blair] She's not-
679
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,309
[Carter] She's crying
and she's upset, Blair.
680
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:07,100
How could you
possibly force her to answer questions
681
00:41:07,101 --> 00:41:10,412
[Blair] Because I see
the witness is not upset and hasn't requested.
682
00:41:10,413 --> 00:41:12,483
[Carter]
I'm requesting on her behalf?
683
00:41:12,484 --> 00:41:15,205
- [Blair] Do you need a break,
Ms. Heard? - [Carter] Yes.
684
00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:16,616
Yes.
685
00:41:16,617 --> 00:41:19,964
[Blair] Let the record reflect
Mr. Carter's answering for Ms. Heard,
686
00:41:19,965 --> 00:41:22,305
yes, and Ms. Heard
had responded yes.
687
00:41:22,344 --> 00:41:23,794
We'll take a break.
688
00:41:23,827 --> 00:41:28,617
[officer 1 speaking]
689
00:41:28,655 --> 00:41:30,995
[officer 2 speaking]
690
00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:33,694
- [Amber speaking]
- [officer 2] Yeah.
691
00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:35,624
[Amber speaking]
692
00:41:35,655 --> 00:41:38,685
[officer 1 speaking]
693
00:41:38,686 --> 00:41:40,343
[David]
There were two officers
694
00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:43,454
from the LAPD who attended
Johnny and Amber's flat.
695
00:41:43,482 --> 00:41:46,932
[officer 1 speaking]
696
00:41:46,965 --> 00:41:48,655
[Amber] No.
697
00:41:48,689 --> 00:41:50,689
The other officers came by.
698
00:41:50,724 --> 00:41:52,794
They found nothing at all.
699
00:41:52,827 --> 00:41:53,997
None of the marks,
700
00:41:53,998 --> 00:41:56,412
none of the injuries
that she suggested was present.
701
00:41:56,413 --> 00:42:00,213
[officer 1 speaking]
702
00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:02,311
[officer 2 speaking]
703
00:42:02,344 --> 00:42:05,004
[officer 1 speaking]
704
00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:07,284
[Amber speaking]
705
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:08,690
[officer 1] Okay.
706
00:42:08,724 --> 00:42:12,974
[Blair] Did you ever tell
any officers at your house on May 21, 2016,
707
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,140
that the... that Johnny Depp
had ever done
708
00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:18,002
anything wrong to you
that night or before?
709
00:42:19,517 --> 00:42:21,587
You're asking me
if I've told them?
710
00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:24,070
[Blair] if you told them
on May 21. Yes.
711
00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:27,553
Again, I said to them,
712
00:42:27,586 --> 00:42:31,026
I decline
to give any statement at this time,
713
00:42:31,068 --> 00:42:34,068
as per the advice
of my counsel.
714
00:42:34,103 --> 00:42:35,303
[Blair] Did the police-
715
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:39,070
They did make
a comment to me about it seeming unsafe.
716
00:42:39,071 --> 00:42:41,205
That's why they needed
to check the apartment.
717
00:42:41,206 --> 00:42:43,786
They made
a gesture to my face.
718
00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:45,447
They said that I looked hurt.
719
00:42:45,482 --> 00:42:50,212
They also pulled me aside
and said, "Look,
720
00:42:50,241 --> 00:42:53,071
just say,
just say a statement.
721
00:42:53,103 --> 00:42:54,663
We can make sure you're safe.
722
00:42:54,664 --> 00:42:57,378
Just say a statement
or give us a statement and we'll get the guy."
723
00:42:57,379 --> 00:43:01,619
They said the exact
same thing to Josh.
724
00:43:01,655 --> 00:43:06,275
[Blair] Did... Is it your testimony
that a police officer on May 21
725
00:43:06,310 --> 00:43:08,970
told you that it appeared
you looked hurt?
726
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,860
He gestured-
He or she gestured,
727
00:43:11,896 --> 00:43:14,786
I can't remember which one,
to my face and said,
728
00:43:14,827 --> 00:43:17,307
"It's... We can tell
you've been hurt
729
00:43:17,308 --> 00:43:19,550
or you don't look good"
or something to that effect.
730
00:43:19,551 --> 00:43:21,688
But I don't remember
the exact words they used.
731
00:43:21,689 --> 00:43:24,929
[officer 1 speaking]
732
00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:26,792
- [Amber] Now it is, yes.
- [officer 1 speaking]
733
00:43:26,793 --> 00:43:28,103
[Amber speaking]
734
00:43:28,137 --> 00:43:30,517
[officer 1 speaking]
735
00:43:30,551 --> 00:43:32,341
[Amber speaking]
736
00:43:32,379 --> 00:43:34,169
[officer 1 speaking]
737
00:43:38,068 --> 00:43:41,138
One of the very
interesting features of the case
738
00:43:41,172 --> 00:43:45,622
is that at no point
did she make a criminal complaint
739
00:43:45,655 --> 00:43:50,375
or even go to the hospital
where the injuries she said
740
00:43:50,413 --> 00:43:52,933
she suffered could have been
easily documented
741
00:43:52,965 --> 00:43:55,445
and there would have been
no argument to be had.
742
00:43:55,482 --> 00:43:59,522
[Blair] Did you ever report
to any law enforcement authority
743
00:43:59,551 --> 00:44:03,001
other than the police,
your claims that he did these things?
744
00:44:03,034 --> 00:44:06,004
No, I attempted as best as
I could to hide this
745
00:44:07,517 --> 00:44:10,827
and keep our lives
as private as possible.
746
00:44:10,862 --> 00:44:13,242
And I did what a lot of
I guess women do.
747
00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,475
I tried to protect him.
748
00:44:16,068 --> 00:44:19,688
Amber Heard said
she didn't want the publicity.
749
00:44:19,724 --> 00:44:21,904
She didn't want to make
a complaint.
750
00:44:21,931 --> 00:44:24,551
But it's a very strange answer
in circumstances
751
00:44:24,586 --> 00:44:28,306
where she did make a call
straight away to her publicist.
752
00:44:28,344 --> 00:44:30,244
And only six days later,
753
00:44:30,275 --> 00:44:33,065
she went to court when she,
as the evidence shows,
754
00:44:33,103 --> 00:44:36,003
she didn't need to
go to court just to turn up
755
00:44:36,034 --> 00:44:40,454
and file her restraining order
surrounded by paparazzi
756
00:44:40,482 --> 00:44:43,452
and with the most prominent
appearing bruises.
757
00:44:46,448 --> 00:44:48,618
Our case was very much
758
00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:51,855
that she had manipulated
the photographs.
759
00:44:51,856 --> 00:44:54,136
Two photographs taken
almost exactly the same time
760
00:44:54,137 --> 00:44:55,637
looked completely different.
761
00:44:55,638 --> 00:45:00,240
[reporter 1] Did Johnny
brutalize you, Amber?
762
00:45:00,241 --> 00:45:02,951
[reporter 2] Amber, did Johnny
pay you to stay quiet?
763
00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:04,861
[reporter 3] Amber?
764
00:45:04,862 --> 00:45:06,274
[reporter 4] Amber,
how are you feeling?
765
00:45:06,275 --> 00:45:08,619
[reporter 1] Amber,
are you going to the doctor?
766
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:11,330
[reporter 2] Amber,
what do you have to say to Johnny?
767
00:45:30,103 --> 00:45:34,933
[David] Just after
the restraining order which Amber Heard obtained,
768
00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:37,755
and she goes to his hotel room
in San Francisco
769
00:45:37,793 --> 00:45:40,663
where she asked to see
Johnny Depp.
770
00:45:40,689 --> 00:45:43,479
[Amber speaking]
771
00:45:46,827 --> 00:45:52,547
Now, the restraining order
says he is not to come within 100 yards of her
772
00:45:52,586 --> 00:45:57,066
and yet she turns up on her
own to a hotel room where he is.
773
00:45:57,103 --> 00:45:59,283
[Amber speaking]
774
00:45:59,284 --> 00:46:04,343
[David] The tape recording
was made by her, not by him.
775
00:46:04,344 --> 00:46:05,764
He wasn't aware of it.
776
00:46:05,793 --> 00:46:11,243
- [Amber speaking]
- [Johnny speaking]
777
00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:15,825
And one of the first things
she does is to ask him to hug her.
778
00:46:15,862 --> 00:46:17,592
[Amber speaking]
779
00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:19,660
[indistinct chatter]
780
00:46:19,689 --> 00:46:24,519
[Amber speaking]
781
00:46:24,551 --> 00:46:28,901
- [Johnny speaking]
- [Amber speaking]
782
00:46:31,793 --> 00:46:35,663
- [Johnny speaking]
- [Amber speaking]
783
00:46:35,689 --> 00:46:38,589
- [Johnny speaking]
- [Amber speaking]
784
00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:41,030
- [Johnny] Fucking...
- [Amber speaking]
785
00:46:41,068 --> 00:46:42,758
[Johnny speaking]
786
00:46:42,793 --> 00:46:46,523
[Amber speaking]
787
00:46:48,448 --> 00:46:51,208
And he says, why on earth
would I want to hug you
788
00:46:51,241 --> 00:46:53,621
when you said
all of this shit about me,
789
00:46:53,622 --> 00:46:55,033
which was a reference,
obviously,
790
00:46:55,034 --> 00:46:57,412
to the allegations
which has been then been made public.
791
00:46:57,413 --> 00:47:00,693
[Johnny speaking]
792
00:47:12,034 --> 00:47:15,594
[Amber speaking]
793
00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:19,210
[Johnny speaking]
794
00:47:19,241 --> 00:47:22,551
[Amber speaking]
795
00:47:22,586 --> 00:47:25,026
[Johnny speaking]
796
00:47:25,068 --> 00:47:28,378
[Amber speaking]
797
00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:33,003
[Johnny speaking]
798
00:47:34,310 --> 00:47:38,070
[indistinct chatter]
799
00:47:38,103 --> 00:47:39,453
[Johnny speaking]
800
00:47:42,965 --> 00:47:47,545
But what happens afterwards
is just so bizarre in circumstances
801
00:47:47,586 --> 00:47:51,336
where someone has said,
you have been so violent.
802
00:47:51,379 --> 00:47:54,689
I fear for my life
and I want the whole world to know
803
00:47:54,724 --> 00:47:56,954
and I don't want you to come
anywhere near me.
804
00:47:56,965 --> 00:47:59,545
And that is
that she gets tired
805
00:47:59,586 --> 00:48:03,306
and she asks
if she can go to sleep in his hotel room,
806
00:48:03,344 --> 00:48:08,904
in his bed,
and she invites him into the bed and he declines.
807
00:48:08,931 --> 00:48:12,171
[Johnny speaking]
808
00:48:12,206 --> 00:48:13,826
[Amber speaking]
809
00:48:13,862 --> 00:48:16,552
[indistinct chatter]
810
00:48:18,931 --> 00:48:23,791
[Johnny speaking]
811
00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:38,213
[Amber speaking]
812
00:48:38,241 --> 00:48:42,591
[Johnny speaking]
813
00:48:48,995 --> 00:48:53,274
[David] And he goes and sits
in the living room
814
00:48:53,275 --> 00:48:55,275
and this is the evidence
he gave.
815
00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:57,720
And he puts his head
in his hands
816
00:48:57,758 --> 00:49:02,378
and he cries because he cannot
understand how he's got to this position
817
00:49:02,413 --> 00:49:06,453
where his ex-wife,
who is accusing him of all of this nonsense,
818
00:49:06,482 --> 00:49:08,592
all of this shit,
as he describes it,
819
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:10,100
and she doesn't deny that.
820
00:49:10,137 --> 00:49:12,827
He's lying in his bed.
821
00:49:12,862 --> 00:49:15,242
And that's, we say,
822
00:49:15,275 --> 00:49:19,515
such a powerful point
in demonstrating
823
00:49:19,551 --> 00:49:22,071
that these allegations
were untrue.
824
00:49:40,324 --> 00:49:44,826
[Minnie] What Sasha Wass QC
wanted to get across
825
00:49:44,827 --> 00:49:48,167
is that this was a pattern
of behavior of a domestic abuser.
826
00:49:48,206 --> 00:49:49,546
And throughout the trial,
827
00:49:49,586 --> 00:49:53,306
you heard evidence
that he had repeatedly attacked Amber Heard.
828
00:49:53,344 --> 00:49:55,904
[Johnny speaking]
829
00:49:55,931 --> 00:49:57,481
[Amber speaking]
830
00:49:57,517 --> 00:49:59,687
[Johnny speaking]
831
00:49:59,724 --> 00:50:05,764
There was the charming, sober, clean Mr.
Depp, who was a joy to be around.
832
00:50:05,793 --> 00:50:09,723
And then
there was what Mr. Depp called, the monster,
833
00:50:09,758 --> 00:50:14,208
the man who would be drunk,
violent, and disagreeable.
834
00:50:14,241 --> 00:50:17,621
[Johnny speaking]
835
00:50:20,965 --> 00:50:26,475
[song playing]
836
00:50:26,525 --> 00:50:31,075
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