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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,448 --> 00:00:06,308 [Amber] Johnny is a wonderful person to work with. 2 00:00:06,344 --> 00:00:07,594 He's got so much to offer. 3 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:11,000 I think he's just- he's almost too good for the industry. 4 00:00:11,034 --> 00:00:13,624 [Johnny] Meeting an actress like Amber Heard, 5 00:00:13,655 --> 00:00:17,405 it's like walking into a room and meeting Lauren Bacall. 6 00:00:17,448 --> 00:00:19,138 She's quite something, you know. 7 00:00:19,139 --> 00:00:26,964 [interviewer] First question, is this like a film come true to make with Johnny Depp? 8 00:00:26,965 --> 00:00:30,585 It's torture. Yes, torture. But I survived. 9 00:00:30,620 --> 00:00:32,410 Uh. 10 00:00:32,448 --> 00:00:36,068 [Johnny] A wonderful Southern belle, sweet as can be... 11 00:00:36,103 --> 00:00:37,483 and very good for me. 12 00:00:48,758 --> 00:00:50,238 [reporter 1] Hey, Amber. 13 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:52,585 [reporter 2] Hey, Amber, did Johnny give you that bruise on your face? 14 00:00:52,586 --> 00:00:54,166 Amber? 15 00:00:54,167 --> 00:00:57,033 [reporter 3] Johnny Depp accused of domestic abuse in his sudden split 16 00:00:57,034 --> 00:00:58,414 from actress Amber Heard. 17 00:00:58,415 --> 00:01:00,378 [reporter 2] Did Johnny brutalize you? 18 00:01:00,379 --> 00:01:02,999 [reporter 3] She says, Johnny smashed her face with an iPhone, 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,660 leaving her with this bruise. 20 00:01:10,242 --> 00:01:13,171 [reporter 4] In a story about him 21 00:01:13,172 --> 00:01:15,382 and his then wife, Amber Heard, 22 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:19,833 a U.K. newspaper called Johnny Depp a "wife-beater." 23 00:01:19,834 --> 00:01:21,723 [Jenny] I know he was shocked and appalled 24 00:01:21,724 --> 00:01:25,104 by such a serious allegation being made against him. 25 00:01:25,137 --> 00:01:28,447 So damaging and completely untrue. 26 00:01:28,482 --> 00:01:31,242 He felt compelled to bring the proceedings. 27 00:01:31,275 --> 00:01:33,475 He had to clear his name. 28 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:42,760 You lot, get out the way. 29 00:01:42,793 --> 00:01:44,483 Let him through! 30 00:01:49,344 --> 00:01:51,554 I'm screaming help as loud as I can 31 00:01:51,586 --> 00:01:53,896 and I... I also text Rocky, previous, 32 00:01:53,931 --> 00:01:55,001 "It's amping up." 33 00:01:58,344 --> 00:01:59,794 [Johnny] Oh, you're crazy. 34 00:01:59,827 --> 00:02:00,967 Are you crazy? 35 00:02:00,968 --> 00:02:02,895 [Amber] Have you drunk this whole thing this morning? 36 00:02:02,896 --> 00:02:04,619 [Johnny] Oh, you got this going? You got this going? 37 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:05,757 [Amber] You started it. 38 00:02:05,758 --> 00:02:07,240 - [Johnny] Oh, really? - [Amber] Yes. 39 00:02:07,241 --> 00:02:08,291 [Johnny] Really? 40 00:02:16,862 --> 00:02:19,592 She threw a vodka bottle at me. 41 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:24,170 All the bone in here was completely shattered. 42 00:02:24,206 --> 00:02:26,616 I mean, it's- it looked like Vesuvius. 43 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:31,027 [Amber speaking] 44 00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:33,378 [Johnny speaking] 45 00:02:36,551 --> 00:02:39,551 [pop song playing] 46 00:03:16,448 --> 00:03:18,068 [vehicles honking] 47 00:03:18,103 --> 00:03:19,973 [distant siren blaring] 48 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:26,189 [cameraman] Rolling on Middleton. 49 00:03:28,172 --> 00:03:29,722 [Dylan] In the last 12 years, 50 00:03:29,758 --> 00:03:31,968 I seem to have become embroiled 51 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,310 in some of the biggest tabloid stories in America. 52 00:03:36,344 --> 00:03:41,454 And I can say that at the very top of Murdoch's British empire, 53 00:03:41,482 --> 00:03:44,242 there was genuine concern about this lawsuit. 54 00:03:44,275 --> 00:03:47,275 I know that. I was told that. 55 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:50,070 Sources from withinside the newsroom 56 00:03:50,103 --> 00:03:54,663 were very concerned about the reputational damage that The Sun would take 57 00:03:54,689 --> 00:03:56,589 if they lost this case. 58 00:03:58,655 --> 00:04:02,405 I certainly believe that Johnny Depp had a choice, 59 00:04:02,448 --> 00:04:05,718 the court of law or the court of public opinion. 60 00:04:05,758 --> 00:04:11,238 He decided and has decided to use the court of law as a vehicle to attempt 61 00:04:11,275 --> 00:04:15,585 to exonerate himself of the allegations leveled against him, 62 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:20,690 because Hollywood Studios in 2021 no longer support people 63 00:04:20,724 --> 00:04:23,004 that are accused of being wife-beaters. 64 00:04:23,005 --> 00:04:24,585 Yeah, the reality is Johnny Depp's career 65 00:04:24,586 --> 00:04:26,516 has been absolutely damaged by this. 66 00:04:26,551 --> 00:04:30,971 [man] Not only is he going to be labeled forevermore as a wife-beater. 67 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,240 It means that authors like J.K. Rowling are gonna find it 68 00:04:34,275 --> 00:04:37,025 very difficult to have him in their films. 69 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:40,788 Disney are gonna find it very difficult to have him in their films. 70 00:04:40,789 --> 00:04:42,033 What studio is gonna pick him? 71 00:04:42,034 --> 00:04:43,826 I think, I don't think it's going to be a domino effect. 72 00:04:43,827 --> 00:04:45,587 I think it's going to be a cliff. 73 00:04:45,588 --> 00:04:48,102 I think this might be the last time we hear from him. 74 00:04:48,103 --> 00:04:52,003 [woman] ...those studios, they're gonna wait to see what this... 75 00:04:52,034 --> 00:04:55,004 [Jenny] Once these allegations were made against him, 76 00:04:55,034 --> 00:04:57,314 I think he referred to himself as Quasimodo. 77 00:04:59,275 --> 00:05:03,585 So, this case was incredibly important 78 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:06,620 in having to try to clear your name. 79 00:05:06,655 --> 00:05:10,995 A huge amount of your private information has to be aired in open court, 80 00:05:10,996 --> 00:05:13,412 which, particularly if you're a private person, 81 00:05:13,413 --> 00:05:15,453 is really difficult to go through. 82 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:19,692 So, you wouldn't do any of that unless you thought that the benefits, 83 00:05:19,724 --> 00:05:24,414 um, or the need was so strong that you put yourself through all of that. 84 00:05:27,551 --> 00:05:31,311 This is his life and his reputation on trial, 85 00:05:31,344 --> 00:05:33,104 literally on trial. 86 00:05:34,317 --> 00:05:39,999 [reporter] Johnny Depp, he's back in a London courtroom 87 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 fighting for what seems like his career. 88 00:05:42,517 --> 00:05:44,517 [indistinct chatter] 89 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:47,585 [narrator] Johnny Depp is suing The Sun Newspaper over an article 90 00:05:47,586 --> 00:05:49,586 which called him a "wife-beater." 91 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:52,240 [woman 2] Johnny, we love you, darling. 92 00:05:52,241 --> 00:05:54,654 [narrator] Amber Heard, who first made the allegations, 93 00:05:54,655 --> 00:05:56,305 was also in court today. 94 00:05:56,344 --> 00:05:59,484 She arrived supported by friends through a side entrance. 95 00:05:59,517 --> 00:06:01,997 [man] Do not move forward, stay where you are. 96 00:06:01,998 --> 00:06:07,826 [Minnie] I've been all around the world and covered many criminal court cases. 97 00:06:07,827 --> 00:06:10,967 But this was the story which gave you 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,170 kind of unparalleled access to the lives of celebrities 99 00:06:15,206 --> 00:06:18,206 who mostly live on kind of private islands, 100 00:06:18,241 --> 00:06:19,861 get about in private jets. 101 00:06:19,896 --> 00:06:24,276 And this was a moment where you could sort of see, in excruciating detail, 102 00:06:24,277 --> 00:06:26,067 what was going on behind the scenes. 103 00:06:26,068 --> 00:06:29,618 [crowd cheering] 104 00:06:29,655 --> 00:06:34,475 The first day of trial was, um, slightly surreal. 105 00:06:34,517 --> 00:06:37,657 My team, several colleagues, hadn't yet gone to bed. 106 00:06:37,658 --> 00:06:40,240 They'd been working through the night just finalizing 107 00:06:40,241 --> 00:06:42,101 the last trial documents. 108 00:06:42,137 --> 00:06:44,307 So, we went into court. 109 00:06:44,344 --> 00:06:46,314 Then I knew Johnny was arriving. 110 00:06:46,344 --> 00:06:49,554 I just came down to the steps, met him. 111 00:06:49,586 --> 00:06:51,026 There was the crowd outside, 112 00:06:51,027 --> 00:06:52,999 which you don't normally get in any hearings. 113 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,930 [woman 3] Justice for Johnny. 114 00:06:54,931 --> 00:06:56,033 Do you want your hair cut? 115 00:06:56,034 --> 00:06:57,344 Justice for Johnny. 116 00:07:00,689 --> 00:07:02,169 [camera shutter clicking] 117 00:07:02,206 --> 00:07:03,996 - Morning. - [reporter] Morning. 118 00:07:04,034 --> 00:07:05,344 [indistinct chatter] 119 00:07:05,379 --> 00:07:08,239 [David] I was brought into the case to lead the trial. 120 00:07:10,413 --> 00:07:12,973 There have been other high-profile trials, 121 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,590 as you can imagine, but this, I think, 122 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:19,070 must rank as one of the most high profile that there's ever been. 123 00:07:19,726 --> 00:07:23,067 [narrator] The case was interesting 124 00:07:23,068 --> 00:07:26,758 because the defendant was not his former wife, Amber Heard. 125 00:07:26,793 --> 00:07:28,793 It was The Sun newspaper. 126 00:07:28,827 --> 00:07:32,587 One of the most influential newspapers, obviously, in this country. 127 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:35,900 And one does ask the question, 128 00:07:35,931 --> 00:07:42,481 why would Johnny Depp have taken that course to go all the way to trial 129 00:07:42,517 --> 00:07:46,337 and expose, risk exposing the very little privacy 130 00:07:46,379 --> 00:07:51,209 he's managed to maintain despite his international sort of success and profile, 131 00:07:51,241 --> 00:07:54,451 unless he believed those allegations were completely untrue. 132 00:07:56,758 --> 00:07:58,018 [David] From the outset, 133 00:07:58,034 --> 00:08:02,834 our focus was on demonstrating that The Sun's star witness, 134 00:08:02,862 --> 00:08:04,482 Amber Heard, was lying. 135 00:08:06,206 --> 00:08:08,716 I traveled here to the U.K. 136 00:08:08,758 --> 00:08:11,928 to testify as a witness to assist the court. 137 00:08:13,655 --> 00:08:18,855 After obtaining a restraining order in 2016 and finalizing my divorce. 138 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:22,120 I just wanted to move on with my life. 139 00:08:22,137 --> 00:08:23,477 [man] You're a liar! 140 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,720 One of the quite unusual features of the case 141 00:08:29,758 --> 00:08:34,138 is that there was so much evidence taken 142 00:08:34,172 --> 00:08:36,282 during the course of their relationship. 143 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:42,170 Amber Heard took a number of photographs. 144 00:08:42,206 --> 00:08:44,446 There were also texts. 145 00:08:46,241 --> 00:08:50,551 There were documents, there were even medical notes, 146 00:08:51,896 --> 00:08:54,996 but there were also secret recordings that were made. 147 00:08:54,997 --> 00:08:56,792 [indistinct Amber's recorded voice] 148 00:08:56,793 --> 00:08:58,516 [Johnny on recorder] I don't want a divorce. 149 00:08:58,517 --> 00:08:59,895 And I never wanted a fucking divorce. 150 00:08:59,896 --> 00:09:01,716 I say secret, some of them. 151 00:09:01,758 --> 00:09:05,448 One of them was made by Amber Heard herself then others were made 152 00:09:05,449 --> 00:09:08,102 where both of them knew they were recording each other 153 00:09:08,103 --> 00:09:10,283 as part of the sort of therapeutic process. 154 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:15,000 [Amber speaking] 155 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:29,930 [David] There was also video of which Amber Heard 156 00:09:29,965 --> 00:09:33,475 had secretly recorded of Johnny Depp. 157 00:09:33,896 --> 00:09:35,376 [Johnny] Ah! 158 00:09:35,413 --> 00:09:37,483 Motherfucker! 159 00:09:37,517 --> 00:09:38,787 Motherfucker! 160 00:09:38,827 --> 00:09:41,167 [Amber] What happened? 161 00:09:41,206 --> 00:09:44,406 [David] And one does have to ask why she was doing that. 162 00:09:44,448 --> 00:09:47,448 She said at trial that she was doing it 163 00:09:47,482 --> 00:09:53,722 because she wanted to show Johnny Depp the next day what she says he did. 164 00:09:53,758 --> 00:09:58,518 Whether or not Johnny Depp was guilty of beating up Amber Heard. 165 00:09:58,551 --> 00:09:59,861 I don't know the truth, 166 00:09:59,896 --> 00:10:03,026 and I don't think many people will ever really know the truth 167 00:10:03,068 --> 00:10:05,408 about what happened behind closed doors. 168 00:10:05,448 --> 00:10:07,168 [Johnny speaking] 169 00:10:07,206 --> 00:10:11,276 [Amber speaking] 170 00:10:11,310 --> 00:10:14,520 [Johnny speaking] 171 00:10:14,551 --> 00:10:16,831 - [Amber speaking] - [Johnny speaking] 172 00:10:16,862 --> 00:10:20,072 [Amber speaking] 173 00:10:20,103 --> 00:10:23,313 [David] But she never did show any of them to him. 174 00:10:23,344 --> 00:10:27,174 Those recordings and the contents of the recordings 175 00:10:27,206 --> 00:10:30,856 were so important, we felt, in undermining the case. 176 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:38,214 - Justice for Johnny! - Justice for Johnny! 177 00:10:38,241 --> 00:10:40,211 Justice for Johnny! 178 00:10:40,241 --> 00:10:43,411 [woman] "Abuse has no gender." 179 00:10:43,448 --> 00:10:48,858 [man] Is that Wass there? Oh, there's Wass. There. 180 00:10:48,896 --> 00:10:51,846 [Minnie] Sasha Wass QC, who represented The Sun in court, 181 00:10:51,862 --> 00:10:53,902 was this incredible powerhouse. 182 00:10:53,931 --> 00:10:57,381 She was the sort of High Priestess of the high court. 183 00:10:57,413 --> 00:11:01,143 It is impossible to sort of not be caught up in her aura 184 00:11:01,172 --> 00:11:04,452 and she absolutely dissected Johnny Depp in the stand. 185 00:11:04,482 --> 00:11:06,452 It was kind of like a masterclass 186 00:11:06,482 --> 00:11:08,232 in how to cross-examine somebody. 187 00:11:09,517 --> 00:11:12,897 [Sasha] I was given three days to question Mr. Depp. 188 00:11:14,137 --> 00:11:18,337 Um, Mr. Depp was used to being interviewed, 189 00:11:18,379 --> 00:11:21,479 so he was adept at answering questions, 190 00:11:21,517 --> 00:11:27,587 but perhaps not in a way that was appropriate for a court scenario. 191 00:11:27,588 --> 00:11:29,895 [reporter] Depp was the first to give evidence here, 192 00:11:29,896 --> 00:11:31,378 and while on the witness stand, 193 00:11:31,379 --> 00:11:35,029 he was asked repeatedly whether he had anger management issues, 194 00:11:35,068 --> 00:11:36,788 something he denied. 195 00:11:38,137 --> 00:11:40,547 [David] He admitted freely to the fact 196 00:11:40,586 --> 00:11:43,686 that he had problems with alcohol and drugs 197 00:11:43,724 --> 00:11:45,664 in the sense that he did drink a lot. 198 00:11:45,689 --> 00:11:51,099 And as he explained the fact that it didn't have an enormous effect on him 199 00:11:51,137 --> 00:11:54,517 and, um, in certain circumstances. 200 00:11:54,518 --> 00:11:56,585 [Minnie] He was asked Johnny Depp in court, you know, 201 00:11:56,586 --> 00:11:58,343 "What kind of drugs have you taken?" 202 00:11:58,344 --> 00:12:02,554 And he reeled off this kind of exhaustive list saying he'd taken LSD, 203 00:12:02,586 --> 00:12:08,896 mushrooms, prescription drugs, cocaine, MDMA, but not ketamine. 204 00:12:08,931 --> 00:12:12,281 He was very clear about that. I have never taken ketamine. 205 00:12:12,282 --> 00:12:13,757 And you could kind of sort of see 206 00:12:13,758 --> 00:12:15,930 all the journalists almost sniggering at that point. 207 00:12:15,931 --> 00:12:18,341 All the extraneous information came out 208 00:12:18,379 --> 00:12:22,719 about how he was taking industrial quantities of illegal drugs, 209 00:12:22,758 --> 00:12:25,658 how he was addicted to alcohol. 210 00:12:25,689 --> 00:12:30,719 Johnny being so candid and so honest, we felt, 211 00:12:30,758 --> 00:12:36,068 uh, gave such a good representation of his credibility. 212 00:12:36,069 --> 00:12:38,067 And I think that was a feature of the way 213 00:12:38,068 --> 00:12:43,208 he gave his evidence was just to tell the truth and be honest. 214 00:12:45,379 --> 00:12:50,899 The evidence was that Mr. Depp started abusing drink and drugs 215 00:12:50,931 --> 00:12:55,281 in March 2013 after a long period of abstinence. 216 00:12:56,862 --> 00:13:02,722 On one occasion, Ms. Heard laughed at a tattoo of his, 217 00:13:02,758 --> 00:13:06,278 which read, "Wino Forever". 218 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:09,410 It had been changed from "Winona Forever". 219 00:13:11,068 --> 00:13:13,858 And although she had seen it many times before, 220 00:13:13,896 --> 00:13:15,236 on this occasion, 221 00:13:15,275 --> 00:13:18,445 she ridiculed the fact that he was a wino 222 00:13:18,482 --> 00:13:21,032 and he took ill at this suggestion 223 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:25,968 and beat her and smacked her about the face, 224 00:13:25,969 --> 00:13:27,067 which was the first time, 225 00:13:27,068 --> 00:13:28,585 according to her this had happened. 226 00:13:28,586 --> 00:13:31,236 And it's an occasion she remembered very clearly. 227 00:13:31,562 --> 00:13:35,309 What Sasha Wass QC wanted to get across 228 00:13:35,310 --> 00:13:37,660 is that this was not a one-off incident, 229 00:13:37,689 --> 00:13:39,859 that he had repeatedly behaved like this 230 00:13:39,896 --> 00:13:42,996 and this was a pattern of behavior of a domestic abuser. 231 00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:50,001 [Sasha] Amber Heard described him in two very different ways. 232 00:13:50,034 --> 00:13:53,934 There was the charming, sober, clean Mr. Depp, 233 00:13:53,965 --> 00:13:57,235 who was a joy to be around. 234 00:13:57,275 --> 00:14:00,025 And then there was the man who would be drunk, 235 00:14:00,068 --> 00:14:02,278 violent and disagreeable. 236 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:05,930 - [Johnny speaking] - [Amber speaking] 237 00:14:10,172 --> 00:14:13,622 [Amber speaking] 238 00:14:21,689 --> 00:14:24,619 Mr. Depp knew that when he was 239 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:26,785 under the influence of drink and drugs, 240 00:14:26,827 --> 00:14:29,307 he behaved extremely badly. 241 00:14:29,344 --> 00:14:34,664 And he created a name for that nasty side to his character. 242 00:14:34,689 --> 00:14:36,409 And the name was the "Monster." 243 00:14:36,448 --> 00:14:42,068 [Johnny speaking] 244 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:44,585 - [Amber] Of me? - [Johnny] Yes. 245 00:14:44,586 --> 00:14:46,166 [Amber speaking] 246 00:14:46,206 --> 00:14:49,136 [Johnny speaking] 247 00:14:49,172 --> 00:14:51,662 [Amber speaking] 248 00:14:51,689 --> 00:14:55,379 [Johnny speaking] 249 00:14:55,413 --> 00:14:59,103 [Minnie] Just what the monster meant became a central part of this case. 250 00:14:59,137 --> 00:15:01,997 Was the monster a prolific domestic abuser? 251 00:15:02,034 --> 00:15:04,484 Was the monster in Johnny Depp's eyes, 252 00:15:04,517 --> 00:15:08,307 just a much more kind of casual term used for when he lost his temper? 253 00:15:08,344 --> 00:15:09,394 [Amber] ...because- 254 00:15:09,413 --> 00:15:10,863 [Johnny speaking] 255 00:15:10,896 --> 00:15:14,586 [Amber speaking] 256 00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:18,760 [Johnny speaking] 257 00:15:20,862 --> 00:15:24,212 [Amber speaking] 258 00:15:26,586 --> 00:15:27,966 [Johnny speaking] 259 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,380 [Amber speaking] 260 00:15:32,701 --> 00:15:38,895 [David] When you listen to what they were actually saying to each other 261 00:15:38,896 --> 00:15:43,856 at the time in private, her real complaint was that when they had an argument, 262 00:15:43,896 --> 00:15:48,236 far from him hitting her or squaring up to her or anything similar, 263 00:15:48,275 --> 00:15:51,095 in fact, Johnny Depp would leave. 264 00:15:51,137 --> 00:15:53,167 He would split, as she described it. 265 00:15:53,206 --> 00:15:55,926 She- He would run away from the argument. 266 00:15:55,965 --> 00:15:57,995 [Johnny speaking] 267 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,930 Now, that's precisely the opposite sort of behavior you would expect 268 00:16:30,965 --> 00:16:33,825 from someone who is supposed to be, 269 00:16:33,862 --> 00:16:36,452 um, a domestic abuser. 270 00:16:36,482 --> 00:16:39,212 Amber Heard was unable to deal with that. 271 00:16:39,241 --> 00:16:45,211 [Amber speaking] 272 00:16:49,517 --> 00:16:54,407 [Johnny speaking] 273 00:16:54,448 --> 00:16:55,658 [Amber] Mm-hmm. 274 00:16:55,689 --> 00:16:58,309 [Johnny speaking] 275 00:16:58,344 --> 00:17:01,484 Seriously, you know, like, sit down. 276 00:17:02,586 --> 00:17:05,406 [David] He was no monster. 277 00:17:05,448 --> 00:17:08,098 And a number of witnesses came forward to say, 278 00:17:08,137 --> 00:17:12,097 he was an incredibly kind, generous person. 279 00:17:13,275 --> 00:17:18,305 Here in no man's land, Johnny Depp country. 280 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,290 Come on, I'll show you where Johnny's club is. 281 00:17:36,068 --> 00:17:38,098 In the summer of 2019, 282 00:17:38,137 --> 00:17:41,897 I got a call from Amber Heard's lawyer. 283 00:17:43,241 --> 00:17:46,861 And he said, "Amber wants to do an investigation 284 00:17:46,896 --> 00:17:50,066 on her ex-husband, Johnny Depp." 285 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:52,723 And of course, I already knew what it was. 286 00:17:52,758 --> 00:17:54,448 It's like, "Find, get the dirt." 287 00:17:54,482 --> 00:17:56,352 It's always get the dirt on somebody. 288 00:17:57,793 --> 00:18:02,973 And I remember asking, one of the first questions I asked was, 289 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:08,620 "Do you want me to look into Johnny's follies and vices of the past?" 290 00:18:08,655 --> 00:18:10,965 And, "Absolutely." 291 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,100 And I suggested I go as far back as The Viper Room. 292 00:18:15,101 --> 00:18:18,757 [Joaquin Phoenix on radio] Can you just get over here, please? 293 00:18:18,758 --> 00:18:20,447 [dispatcher] Yeah, slow down, okay? 294 00:18:20,448 --> 00:18:22,550 - [Joaquin] Where is the guy? - [dispatcher] Okay. 295 00:18:22,551 --> 00:18:24,721 - We have help on the way. - [Joaquin] I know. 296 00:18:24,722 --> 00:18:26,481 [reporter] That 23-year-old actor, 297 00:18:26,482 --> 00:18:30,482 River Phoenix, stumbled out of this trendy sunset nightclub 298 00:18:30,517 --> 00:18:35,377 known as The Viper Room and died of a massive drug overdose. 299 00:18:36,931 --> 00:18:38,921 [David] Amber knew that that was a time 300 00:18:38,931 --> 00:18:41,311 and a place where there was a lot of drugs, 301 00:18:41,344 --> 00:18:45,244 sex and rock and roll and alleged backroom deals. 302 00:18:45,245 --> 00:18:47,412 [narrator] His friends say Phoenix had been 303 00:18:47,413 --> 00:18:49,723 in the words of one of them, "acting strange". 304 00:18:49,758 --> 00:18:50,898 At this point in time, 305 00:18:50,931 --> 00:18:54,101 the exact cause of death is still under investigation. 306 00:18:54,102 --> 00:18:56,274 [reporter] Los Angeles homicide detectives say 307 00:18:56,275 --> 00:18:58,516 an autopsy will take place in the next few days 308 00:18:58,517 --> 00:19:02,517 and should reveal what caused the young actor's death. 309 00:19:02,551 --> 00:19:06,481 [Paul] I looked to see if there was anything going on based on the rumors, 310 00:19:07,655 --> 00:19:09,925 whether it was drug dealing, 311 00:19:09,965 --> 00:19:14,785 prostitution or illegal gambling, 312 00:19:14,827 --> 00:19:17,837 to find out if there was any facts behind those allegations. 313 00:19:19,793 --> 00:19:22,283 What you saw of Johnny Depp, did he seem like an... 314 00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:24,760 I spoke with some of the employees. 315 00:19:24,793 --> 00:19:26,243 He's a really nice guy. 316 00:19:26,275 --> 00:19:28,265 [Paul] I spoke with some of the patrons. 317 00:19:31,172 --> 00:19:34,032 I got ahold of Johnny's ex-girlfriends. 318 00:19:34,068 --> 00:19:38,968 Winona Ryder, Kate Moss, even Traci Lords. 319 00:19:42,068 --> 00:19:48,098 I'm trying to find behavior that's consistent with him being abusive to women. 320 00:19:48,137 --> 00:19:49,997 Well, what about you? 321 00:19:54,827 --> 00:19:58,337 One thing that holds true is that not one person 322 00:19:58,379 --> 00:20:03,859 had one deprecating thing to say about Johnny. 323 00:20:03,896 --> 00:20:10,656 And in fact, a lot of people said that Johnny is generous beyond the pale. 324 00:20:10,689 --> 00:20:14,099 He pays his friend's medical bills. 325 00:20:14,137 --> 00:20:18,027 He pays his friends', family rent, 326 00:20:20,103 --> 00:20:21,523 uh, legal fees. 327 00:20:21,551 --> 00:20:23,211 Someone's in a bind, 328 00:20:23,241 --> 00:20:26,001 he's always been there to help. 329 00:20:28,827 --> 00:20:30,827 That says a lot about the man. 330 00:20:32,413 --> 00:20:34,033 And I admire him for that. 331 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:41,690 - This is Johnny Depp. - Hi. 332 00:20:41,691 --> 00:20:43,516 Star of A Nightmare on Elm Street, private resort. 333 00:20:43,517 --> 00:20:46,167 And... has a bulging wad. 334 00:20:46,206 --> 00:20:47,276 [laughter] 335 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:49,450 [man] ...show at $39.95. 336 00:20:49,482 --> 00:20:51,662 Well, anyway, look who we have here. 337 00:20:51,689 --> 00:20:54,279 To our right, upstage right. 338 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:56,210 One day, Bruce came to me. 339 00:20:56,241 --> 00:20:58,761 He said, "Man, I got this guy, Johnny. 340 00:20:58,793 --> 00:21:00,693 He's coming to me every day saying, 341 00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,481 'I want to join the band. I want to join the band. 342 00:21:02,482 --> 00:21:04,172 Come on, I want to join the band.'" 343 00:21:05,689 --> 00:21:09,169 Well, that was, that was our friend Johnny Depp. 344 00:21:09,170 --> 00:21:11,550 [announcer] All right. It's a big band, ladies and gentlemen, 345 00:21:11,551 --> 00:21:13,281 special guest, Johnny Depp. 346 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:15,030 I wanna say yama diggy. 347 00:21:15,068 --> 00:21:17,208 Yama diggy. Yama diggy. 348 00:21:22,655 --> 00:21:24,965 [Dylan] Johnny had this look about him. 349 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,970 His whole persona was, like, very mysterious. 350 00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:34,101 He was absolutely more of an introvert. 351 00:21:35,689 --> 00:21:36,899 He wasn't that partier. 352 00:21:36,931 --> 00:21:39,621 He wasn't that womanizer back in those days. 353 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,830 But he was the pretty boy. 354 00:21:47,862 --> 00:21:49,722 [woman 5] Move over, Marlon Brando. 355 00:21:49,758 --> 00:21:51,618 Make way for Johnny Depp, 356 00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:53,615 the new master of the misfit role 357 00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:56,516 famous as the teen pin-up who couldn't stand his heartthrob status, 358 00:21:56,517 --> 00:21:57,657 Johnny's made a... 359 00:21:57,658 --> 00:21:59,240 [Minnie] What's fascinating about Johnny Depp 360 00:21:59,241 --> 00:22:01,931 is that he is the Hollywood outsider. 361 00:22:03,344 --> 00:22:04,524 Born in Kentucky, 362 00:22:04,525 --> 00:22:07,102 he describes himself as a sort of southern gentleman. 363 00:22:07,103 --> 00:22:11,623 You know, he moves to L.A. in the '80s with his band. 364 00:22:11,655 --> 00:22:15,305 He's... Suddenly he gets mainstream success. 365 00:22:15,306 --> 00:22:18,343 But he's kind of not the conventional actor in many respects. 366 00:22:18,344 --> 00:22:19,516 - Hello. - [reporter] Hi. 367 00:22:19,517 --> 00:22:20,723 - Good to see here. - Oh, thanks. 368 00:22:20,724 --> 00:22:22,619 [reporter] Are you a big fan of independent filmmakers? 369 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,720 Yeah, yeah, very much. Yeah. 370 00:22:24,721 --> 00:22:26,688 [Minnie] He's always been alternative. 371 00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:31,549 The least important thing to me is becoming famous and being well known and, 372 00:22:31,586 --> 00:22:34,716 you know, trying to be everybody's hero. 373 00:22:34,758 --> 00:22:36,588 That's not what I'm about. 374 00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:40,110 [Minnie] That's I think, important to him and his essence as an actor. 375 00:22:40,111 --> 00:22:44,067 Edward Scissorhands, he's this incredibly vulnerable, 376 00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:48,338 emo character who has broad appeal. 377 00:22:48,379 --> 00:22:51,589 Kids watch him, adults watch him. 378 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,970 [Bill] And then Fear and Loathing. 379 00:22:53,971 --> 00:22:55,861 They want me to go to Las Vegas at once, 380 00:22:55,862 --> 00:22:58,999 and make contact with a Portuguese photographer named Lacerda. 381 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,274 [Bill] What the hell was that, man? 382 00:23:00,275 --> 00:23:02,135 That was just, wow! 383 00:23:02,136 --> 00:23:03,723 You didn't know where he was gonna be 384 00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:06,384 coming from the next time around. 385 00:23:06,413 --> 00:23:08,763 But again, he's the Hollywood outsider. 386 00:23:08,793 --> 00:23:11,833 You know, he's unconventional in all of these roles. 387 00:23:11,862 --> 00:23:13,972 You know which way, uh, is the hospital? 388 00:23:13,973 --> 00:23:17,205 [Minnie] Since then, we've seen him as Jack Sparrow on our screens, 389 00:23:17,206 --> 00:23:20,926 and he often pops up in children's hospitals doing charity work. 390 00:23:20,965 --> 00:23:24,025 I felt the need to... [mimicking Jack Sparrow] 391 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:33,690 There's something to be said about a good-looking dude 392 00:23:33,724 --> 00:23:39,594 who loves rock and roll music and women swoon over. 393 00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:43,590 It almost places him in this untouchable area, 394 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,550 and Johnny was able to trade off the back of that 395 00:23:46,586 --> 00:23:49,996 and not really be a fixture of the tabloid news set, 396 00:23:50,034 --> 00:23:54,214 despite being one of the great actors of a generation. 397 00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:55,792 [reporter] While we've been so occupied 398 00:23:55,793 --> 00:23:58,213 by the breakup of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, 399 00:23:58,241 --> 00:24:02,831 we almost forgot about another of this year's high-profile splits. 400 00:24:02,832 --> 00:24:05,136 [Dylan] But all of a sudden something happened... 401 00:24:05,137 --> 00:24:08,857 [reporter] Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis break up. 402 00:24:08,896 --> 00:24:11,206 [Dylan] ...a mid-life crisis. 403 00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,411 Where he left his family and found love. 404 00:24:14,762 --> 00:24:18,895 [Bill] The one and only person, actually, 405 00:24:18,896 --> 00:24:22,206 that I've ever met that's been in Johnny's life was Vanessa, 406 00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:24,481 you know, the mother of his kids. 407 00:24:24,517 --> 00:24:29,207 Just a beautiful soul, you know, beautiful lady. 408 00:24:29,241 --> 00:24:35,791 He had something special with Vanessa and he fucked it up. 409 00:24:35,827 --> 00:24:37,517 [indistinct chatter] 410 00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:39,619 [reporter] Hey, Johnny. Are you really hitting Amber Heard? 411 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,280 [indistinct chatter] 412 00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:45,550 [Minnie] In 2009, he meets Amber Heard on the set of Rum Diary. 413 00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:51,546 I think I was forced to watch the whole of the Rum Diary 414 00:24:51,586 --> 00:24:53,576 because I was reviewing it at the time, 415 00:24:53,577 --> 00:24:55,964 which was difficult to endure the whole thing, 416 00:24:55,965 --> 00:24:57,785 I have to say. 417 00:24:57,827 --> 00:25:01,067 I don't think it's going to be a film either of them are proud of. 418 00:25:01,103 --> 00:25:02,663 You want a little bet? 419 00:25:04,724 --> 00:25:05,904 Bet about what? 420 00:25:05,931 --> 00:25:07,901 That you scream before I do. 421 00:25:10,448 --> 00:25:14,168 [Minnie] At the time she is still married to her wife. 422 00:25:14,206 --> 00:25:18,516 But later Amber Heard and Johnny Depp turn out in the premiere together. 423 00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:20,031 So, this is the big moment 424 00:25:20,068 --> 00:25:23,378 when Johnny Depp and Amber Heard come out as a couple. 425 00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:29,663 She just saw him coming. 426 00:25:29,689 --> 00:25:35,589 She got the opportunity to be a part of that film and she worked it. 427 00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:37,861 - [reporter] What's your guilty pleasure? - Whoa. 428 00:25:37,862 --> 00:25:39,481 [reporter] Do you just go all out? 429 00:25:39,482 --> 00:25:40,622 You know what? 430 00:25:40,655 --> 00:25:42,655 I have a lot of guilty pleasures, 431 00:25:42,689 --> 00:25:44,659 but none of which I will tell you. 432 00:25:44,660 --> 00:25:46,861 [reporter] So there's nothing moderation, nothing you just go... 433 00:25:46,862 --> 00:25:48,722 Yes. I go full out on everything. 434 00:25:48,723 --> 00:25:50,136 [reporter] That's fantastic. We love... 435 00:25:50,137 --> 00:25:51,997 We love to hear that. Great. 436 00:25:53,862 --> 00:25:55,722 Never met the woman. 437 00:25:55,758 --> 00:25:59,068 I do understand that she's half his age. 438 00:25:59,103 --> 00:26:01,243 I get it. 439 00:26:01,275 --> 00:26:03,585 Okay, John, she's 25. 440 00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:06,070 I get it. Don't marry her. 441 00:26:06,103 --> 00:26:08,453 You don't need to marry her. You're Johnny Depp. 442 00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:17,900 [Johnny speaking] 443 00:26:17,931 --> 00:26:19,761 [Amber speaking] 444 00:26:19,793 --> 00:26:24,623 [Johnny speaking] 445 00:26:24,915 --> 00:26:31,067 [interviewer] Can I take that as confirmation of your engagement? 446 00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:32,928 You can take that any way you like. 447 00:26:32,965 --> 00:26:34,405 Absolutely. 448 00:26:34,448 --> 00:26:36,618 [chuckles] 449 00:26:36,655 --> 00:26:39,785 Everything changed. Everything changed. 450 00:26:39,827 --> 00:26:42,967 It's like he totally just lost his mind. 451 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,450 I had the great pleasure 452 00:26:45,482 --> 00:26:50,312 and... and honor of kissing a co-star in the Rum Diary. 453 00:26:50,313 --> 00:26:52,343 [reporter] Your young lady, your young love. 454 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,214 And we know you're a romantic. 455 00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:57,001 So, just how romantic are you? 456 00:26:57,034 --> 00:26:58,904 - How romantic am I? - [reporter] Yes. 457 00:27:01,172 --> 00:27:04,212 Um... I'm romantic enough to not be afraid to wake up 458 00:27:04,241 --> 00:27:07,411 a loved one in the middle of the night with a silly song. 459 00:27:07,448 --> 00:27:09,968 Like something real, real bad. 460 00:27:12,482 --> 00:27:14,482 Ruined his life. 461 00:27:14,517 --> 00:27:17,547 Really did. Look at it. 462 00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:19,516 Totally fucked his career over. 463 00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:24,658 Cost him his friends, part of his family. 464 00:27:30,172 --> 00:27:31,432 Haven't talked to the man. 465 00:27:31,448 --> 00:27:34,928 He hasn't talked to Bruce... since any of this happened. 466 00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:38,030 Everything changed. 467 00:27:42,379 --> 00:27:44,209 She got inside John's head... 468 00:27:48,103 --> 00:27:52,243 and made him absolutely crazy to the point 469 00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:56,585 where he was drinking and drugging... 470 00:27:58,655 --> 00:28:00,925 to the point of just insanity. 471 00:28:08,931 --> 00:28:10,901 [doorbell rings] 472 00:28:10,931 --> 00:28:13,591 [objects clattering] 473 00:28:19,206 --> 00:28:22,656 [Johnny] Ah! Motherfucker! 474 00:28:22,689 --> 00:28:24,139 Motherfucker. 475 00:28:24,172 --> 00:28:25,622 [Amber] What happened? 476 00:28:33,413 --> 00:28:35,143 What happened? 477 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,410 [cabinet doors smashing] 478 00:29:02,137 --> 00:29:04,487 Nothing happened this morning. You know that? 479 00:29:06,896 --> 00:29:09,096 - [Johnny] Were you in here? - [Amber] No. 480 00:29:09,097 --> 00:29:11,343 [Johnny] So then nothing happened to you this morning. 481 00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:12,481 [Amber] Yeah, you're right. 482 00:29:12,482 --> 00:29:14,972 I just woke up and you were so sweet and nice. 483 00:29:15,424 --> 00:29:19,205 We were not even fighting this morning. 484 00:29:19,206 --> 00:29:20,586 All I did was say, sorry. 485 00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:25,690 [Johnny] Did something happen to you this morning? 486 00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:27,244 I don't think so. 487 00:29:31,172 --> 00:29:32,932 [Amber] No. That's the thing. 488 00:29:32,933 --> 00:29:34,033 You want to see crazy, 489 00:29:34,034 --> 00:29:36,454 I'll give you fucking crazy. I'll give you crazy. 490 00:29:38,724 --> 00:29:40,344 Oh, you're crazy. 491 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:41,519 Are you crazy? 492 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,378 [Amber] Have you drunk this whole thing this morning? 493 00:29:43,379 --> 00:29:44,516 [Johnny] Oh, you got this going? 494 00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:46,240 - You got this going? - [Amber] I just started it. 495 00:29:46,241 --> 00:29:47,585 - [Johnny] Oh, really? - Yes. 496 00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:48,756 [Johnny] Really? 497 00:29:52,295 --> 00:29:56,240 Sneak that shit on me, you motherfucker. 498 00:29:56,241 --> 00:29:58,721 [Amber] No. I didn't. You were smashing shit. 499 00:29:58,758 --> 00:30:02,338 [Jenny] The kitchen video scene looked bad first time 500 00:30:02,379 --> 00:30:03,759 it was played in court. 501 00:30:03,793 --> 00:30:06,763 You're not used to hearing swearing in court 502 00:30:06,793 --> 00:30:10,593 and seeing someone banging a kitchen cupboard. 503 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:14,660 But we also insisted that the entire video be played, 504 00:30:14,689 --> 00:30:17,789 as opposed to the clips the defendants had pulled out. 505 00:30:31,724 --> 00:30:35,144 And at the end you see Ms. Heard smirking, 506 00:30:35,172 --> 00:30:40,242 and you see that this is not someone who is in any fear of Johnny, 507 00:30:40,275 --> 00:30:44,655 but is just pleased to have caught him on camera acting in this way. 508 00:30:44,689 --> 00:30:46,379 [David] The case for Johnny Depp 509 00:30:46,413 --> 00:30:51,973 relied on questioning the credibility of Amber Heard. 510 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,310 He grabs... Uh, he grabs my head, um, 511 00:30:57,862 --> 00:31:01,762 takes a fistful of my hair and says, "I hit your eye? 512 00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,723 I hit your eye, huh? Let me see your eye. 513 00:31:03,758 --> 00:31:05,378 Let me see. Let me see your eye. 514 00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:07,173 What if I pull your hair back?" 515 00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:12,716 And he yanks my head back and he's, I don't know, smacking my face 516 00:31:12,758 --> 00:31:17,448 or moving my face or and he's got me by the hair and, um... 517 00:31:20,793 --> 00:31:23,693 It's hard to describe it. 518 00:31:23,694 --> 00:31:25,964 [David] There had already been depositions, 519 00:31:25,965 --> 00:31:28,515 which is the American form of taking evidence 520 00:31:28,516 --> 00:31:31,688 and witness statements in the divorce proceedings in America. 521 00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:35,969 At this time, and he said, um... 522 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,280 He's yanking me from side to side with my hair. 523 00:31:40,281 --> 00:31:41,792 [Blair] Are you standing up at this time? 524 00:31:41,793 --> 00:31:43,073 - Yeah. - [Blair] Okay. 525 00:31:43,103 --> 00:31:46,003 And has he pulled out any hair from your head? 526 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,484 Uh... He's still holding on to my head... 527 00:31:48,517 --> 00:31:49,617 [Blair] Okay. 528 00:31:49,655 --> 00:31:52,585 ...at this time. And he said, um... 529 00:31:52,586 --> 00:31:54,136 There were a number of examples 530 00:31:54,137 --> 00:31:59,617 of where Amber Heard's evidence changed either from previous depositions 531 00:31:59,655 --> 00:32:02,545 or from the English proceedings, 532 00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:04,723 where she had given the witness statements earlier. 533 00:32:04,724 --> 00:32:07,724 And it's an opportunity then to test that evidence 534 00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:09,508 against the previous statements. 535 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:30,210 I'm truly sorry that Pistol and Boo were not declared. 536 00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:33,001 Protecting Australia is important. 537 00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:35,384 Declare everything when you enter Australia. 538 00:32:36,517 --> 00:32:39,897 So, in 2015, when Johnny Depp and Amber Heard went to Australia, 539 00:32:39,898 --> 00:32:42,723 there was this ridiculous moment that many people will remember 540 00:32:42,724 --> 00:32:46,344 when they basically illegally smuggled their two micro dogs Boo 541 00:32:46,379 --> 00:32:47,789 and Pistol into Australia, 542 00:32:47,827 --> 00:32:50,097 and it sparked a huge diplomatic war. 543 00:32:50,137 --> 00:32:54,207 In the end they had to eventually apologize to the nation of Australia 544 00:32:54,208 --> 00:32:57,171 and Amber Heard and Johnny Depp did this sort of faux apology 545 00:32:57,172 --> 00:32:58,930 where they were kind of sniggering together 546 00:32:58,931 --> 00:33:00,901 and did the sort of faux serious, 547 00:33:00,902 --> 00:33:03,654 "We are sorry to the nation of Australia for smuggling our dogs" 548 00:33:03,655 --> 00:33:05,343 where they basically were giggling together. 549 00:33:05,344 --> 00:33:08,516 And at that point it seems like they were sort of two kindred spirits, 550 00:33:08,517 --> 00:33:10,688 you know, that they were kind of very much aligned. 551 00:33:10,689 --> 00:33:12,723 [Jimmy] Did you smuggle the dogs into the country? 552 00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:14,895 [Johnny] There might have been other things smuggled. 553 00:33:14,896 --> 00:33:18,026 [audience laughing] 554 00:33:18,027 --> 00:33:21,688 [Minnie] The world watched this theater of the dog smuggling in Australia. 555 00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,829 But behind closed doors it wasn't a laughing matter. 556 00:33:26,931 --> 00:33:29,241 [director] And three, two, one. 557 00:33:29,275 --> 00:33:30,585 Hit. 558 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:34,590 [Dylan] At the time of filming Pirates in Australia, 559 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:38,000 I had a source very close to the situation 560 00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:42,664 who had preemptively told me that Johnny was off the rails. 561 00:33:42,689 --> 00:33:49,069 And that his behavior on set was causing disruption to the production 562 00:33:49,103 --> 00:33:53,033 and people's patience was wearing very thin. 563 00:33:53,034 --> 00:33:57,378 [Tom Steinfort] Johnny and Amber wanted their wild lifestyle here 564 00:33:57,379 --> 00:33:58,699 to be out of the public eye, 565 00:33:58,724 --> 00:34:01,104 and it turns out for very good reason. 566 00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:03,067 Bombshell evidence seen at London courtroom 567 00:34:03,068 --> 00:34:05,208 is now spelled out for the first time 568 00:34:05,241 --> 00:34:08,411 what really went on behind these gates. 569 00:34:08,412 --> 00:34:11,481 Amber Heard alleges that while they were on their trip to Australia, 570 00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:15,452 Johnny Depp had actually held Amber Heard hostage, she said, for three days. 571 00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:18,552 She said that she had feared for her life. 572 00:34:18,553 --> 00:34:21,343 [reporter] She says she remembers him swigging whiskey, 573 00:34:21,344 --> 00:34:26,004 as he repeatedly threw bottles at her like they were bombs or grenades. 574 00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,414 Depp was manic. 575 00:34:28,448 --> 00:34:31,998 He was abusing drugs... very seriously. 576 00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:37,764 Smashed up the house. There was about $150,000 worth of damage. 577 00:34:37,793 --> 00:34:42,483 Graffiti on works of art, glass everywhere. 578 00:34:42,517 --> 00:34:45,377 And according to her evidence, 579 00:34:45,413 --> 00:34:50,103 he completely lost his self-control. 580 00:34:50,104 --> 00:34:52,654 [David] Amber Heard said that over the course of three days, 581 00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,065 he went mad on drink, 582 00:34:55,103 --> 00:34:58,073 drugs and smashed up this house. 583 00:34:58,103 --> 00:34:59,863 At one point, she says, 584 00:34:59,896 --> 00:35:02,066 he sliced off his own fingertip 585 00:35:02,103 --> 00:35:04,593 and then started painting the walls. 586 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:05,760 [indistinct chatter] 587 00:35:05,793 --> 00:35:08,523 [reporter] Are you enjoying the Gold Coast, Johnny? 588 00:35:08,551 --> 00:35:12,311 [David] The story that Amber Heard gave was just fantastical, 589 00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:17,074 that she was having to walk through broken glass 590 00:35:17,103 --> 00:35:20,453 and dragged across a table with glass all over it. 591 00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:23,972 Her skin was shredded and her feet had cuts over it 592 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,550 and that this was a three-day hostage situation. 593 00:35:29,241 --> 00:35:33,931 When you listen to the way in which Amber Heard gave her evidence in court, 594 00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,995 it does appear that she wasn't telling the truth. 595 00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:46,592 [indistinct chatter] 596 00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:48,480 [man speaking] 597 00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,413 [indistinct chatter] 598 00:35:50,448 --> 00:35:51,658 [Dr. Kipper speaking] 599 00:36:00,310 --> 00:36:02,100 [Debbie speaking] 600 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:08,340 [David] Not only had she the means to leave the house, 601 00:36:08,379 --> 00:36:10,069 she only had to open, I think, 602 00:36:10,103 --> 00:36:12,593 the French windows and exit the building. 603 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:16,070 There was also a recording that was, I think, 604 00:36:16,103 --> 00:36:19,243 five-hour recording that was made by a device 605 00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:23,925 which apparently accidentally recorded what was going on. 606 00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:27,235 [Jerry speaking] 607 00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:45,999 [David] And what you can hear from that recording 608 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,170 and what was in the transcript of it supports the suggestion that we always said 609 00:36:51,206 --> 00:36:54,376 that Amber Heard started an argument at one point 610 00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:58,723 and that there were no real injuries to her. 611 00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:02,548 There was a very real injury to Johnny Depp. 612 00:37:02,586 --> 00:37:05,786 She threw a vodka bottle at me. 613 00:37:05,827 --> 00:37:11,547 My hand was resting on the marble of the bar like that. 614 00:37:11,586 --> 00:37:16,136 And the first bottle went just past my ear. 615 00:37:16,172 --> 00:37:18,902 And the second one was a larger bottle. 616 00:37:18,931 --> 00:37:21,791 And she threw it from about this distance 617 00:37:21,827 --> 00:37:26,377 and it smashed into the bar, 618 00:37:26,413 --> 00:37:28,283 which and this, 619 00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:32,620 this finger, who I now call Little Richard, 620 00:37:32,655 --> 00:37:34,095 [chuckles] um... 621 00:37:36,068 --> 00:37:40,378 was, was... the tip of the finger was severed. 622 00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:47,213 And the... the- all the- all the bone in here was completely shattered. 623 00:37:47,241 --> 00:37:49,931 I mean, it's... it looked like Vesuvius. 624 00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:53,095 [Debbie speaking] 625 00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:57,615 And then I got infections. 626 00:37:57,655 --> 00:38:00,165 I, I, I ended up with MRSA twice. 627 00:38:00,206 --> 00:38:02,136 So, it's very complicated. 628 00:38:02,137 --> 00:38:04,102 I was trying to just get the finger back, 629 00:38:04,103 --> 00:38:05,153 you know... 630 00:38:07,379 --> 00:38:14,309 and then deal with the insanity of having had my finger chopped off 631 00:38:14,344 --> 00:38:16,834 by this woman that I was married to. 632 00:38:18,413 --> 00:38:21,833 [bodyguard speaking] 633 00:38:46,745 --> 00:38:50,516 [dispatcher] 911 Emergency, Operative 278. 634 00:38:50,517 --> 00:38:54,477 [woman speaking] 635 00:38:55,321 --> 00:38:58,757 [dispatcher] Okay, so what did she say 636 00:38:58,758 --> 00:39:00,619 that this guy was assaulted her or hit her? 637 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:02,210 [woman speaking] 638 00:39:02,241 --> 00:39:04,291 - [dispatcher] Okay. - [woman speaking] 639 00:39:12,103 --> 00:39:15,973 [indistinct chatter on radio] 640 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,340 [David] In May of 2016, just before they split up, 641 00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:21,929 when Johnny Depp returns to his flat 642 00:39:21,965 --> 00:39:25,335 where Amber is still living with her friends surrounding her, 643 00:39:25,379 --> 00:39:28,279 he is meant to have thrown a phone at her. 644 00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:32,590 And he leaves, LAPD turn up. 645 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:35,620 - [officer speaking] - [Johnny speaking] 646 00:39:35,655 --> 00:39:37,655 [officer] Doing all right. Um... 647 00:39:37,689 --> 00:39:39,999 - [Johnny speaking] - [officer speaking] 648 00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:41,144 [officer] Okay. 649 00:39:41,172 --> 00:39:43,342 And instead of making the complaint, 650 00:39:43,379 --> 00:39:45,999 she goes into a room and takes photographs. 651 00:39:50,172 --> 00:39:53,862 And some photographs of the injuries she says she suffered. 652 00:39:55,482 --> 00:39:56,552 He's yelling at me. 653 00:39:56,586 --> 00:39:59,336 He's screaming about, about my, 654 00:39:59,379 --> 00:40:02,029 about... "Let's see how hard I hit you." 655 00:40:02,068 --> 00:40:06,518 And, um, and I'm screaming at the top of my lungs. 656 00:40:06,551 --> 00:40:07,901 [Blair] Okay. Oh, man. 657 00:40:07,931 --> 00:40:09,791 "Help! Help! Please help." 658 00:40:09,827 --> 00:40:11,687 I guess I say, "Call 911." 659 00:40:11,724 --> 00:40:12,934 I'm screaming for help, 660 00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:15,375 you know just, in case iO is on the phone, 661 00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:16,553 which I don't know, 662 00:40:16,554 --> 00:40:19,205 because the phone is somewhere after hitting my face. 663 00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:21,550 I don't know where it ricocheted and bounced off to, 664 00:40:21,551 --> 00:40:22,791 but it's on the floor. 665 00:40:22,827 --> 00:40:24,517 I can only hope she's on the line, 666 00:40:24,551 --> 00:40:27,411 but I know and guess security is somewhere. 667 00:40:27,448 --> 00:40:31,518 And even though, they never respond when I'm screaming "help", ever. 668 00:40:33,275 --> 00:40:35,445 I'm screaming help as loud as I can. 669 00:40:35,482 --> 00:40:37,972 I also text Rocky, previous, 670 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,660 "It's amping up. He's getting crazy again. 671 00:40:40,689 --> 00:40:43,479 Please, just... I need you to come over," 672 00:40:43,517 --> 00:40:47,067 because I thought another, third party might be, um... 673 00:40:48,931 --> 00:40:53,141 A third party being present helps, always to... 674 00:40:53,142 --> 00:40:57,033 - [Blair] Is it your testimony? - ...calm things. 675 00:40:57,034 --> 00:40:58,412 [Blair] Is it your testimony Ms. Heard? 676 00:40:58,413 --> 00:41:00,102 - [Carter] Can we take a break please? - [Blair] No. 677 00:41:00,103 --> 00:41:01,378 [Carter] She's upset. She's upset. 678 00:41:01,379 --> 00:41:02,479 [Blair] She's not- 679 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,309 [Carter] She's crying and she's upset, Blair. 680 00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:07,100 How could you possibly force her to answer questions 681 00:41:07,101 --> 00:41:10,412 [Blair] Because I see the witness is not upset and hasn't requested. 682 00:41:10,413 --> 00:41:12,483 [Carter] I'm requesting on her behalf? 683 00:41:12,484 --> 00:41:15,205 - [Blair] Do you need a break, Ms. Heard? - [Carter] Yes. 684 00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:16,616 Yes. 685 00:41:16,617 --> 00:41:19,964 [Blair] Let the record reflect Mr. Carter's answering for Ms. Heard, 686 00:41:19,965 --> 00:41:22,305 yes, and Ms. Heard had responded yes. 687 00:41:22,344 --> 00:41:23,794 We'll take a break. 688 00:41:23,827 --> 00:41:28,617 [officer 1 speaking] 689 00:41:28,655 --> 00:41:30,995 [officer 2 speaking] 690 00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:33,694 - [Amber speaking] - [officer 2] Yeah. 691 00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:35,624 [Amber speaking] 692 00:41:35,655 --> 00:41:38,685 [officer 1 speaking] 693 00:41:38,686 --> 00:41:40,343 [David] There were two officers 694 00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:43,454 from the LAPD who attended Johnny and Amber's flat. 695 00:41:43,482 --> 00:41:46,932 [officer 1 speaking] 696 00:41:46,965 --> 00:41:48,655 [Amber] No. 697 00:41:48,689 --> 00:41:50,689 The other officers came by. 698 00:41:50,724 --> 00:41:52,794 They found nothing at all. 699 00:41:52,827 --> 00:41:53,997 None of the marks, 700 00:41:53,998 --> 00:41:56,412 none of the injuries that she suggested was present. 701 00:41:56,413 --> 00:42:00,213 [officer 1 speaking] 702 00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:02,311 [officer 2 speaking] 703 00:42:02,344 --> 00:42:05,004 [officer 1 speaking] 704 00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:07,284 [Amber speaking] 705 00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:08,690 [officer 1] Okay. 706 00:42:08,724 --> 00:42:12,974 [Blair] Did you ever tell any officers at your house on May 21, 2016, 707 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,140 that the... that Johnny Depp had ever done 708 00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:18,002 anything wrong to you that night or before? 709 00:42:19,517 --> 00:42:21,587 You're asking me if I've told them? 710 00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:24,070 [Blair] if you told them on May 21. Yes. 711 00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:27,553 Again, I said to them, 712 00:42:27,586 --> 00:42:31,026 I decline to give any statement at this time, 713 00:42:31,068 --> 00:42:34,068 as per the advice of my counsel. 714 00:42:34,103 --> 00:42:35,303 [Blair] Did the police- 715 00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:39,070 They did make a comment to me about it seeming unsafe. 716 00:42:39,071 --> 00:42:41,205 That's why they needed to check the apartment. 717 00:42:41,206 --> 00:42:43,786 They made a gesture to my face. 718 00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:45,447 They said that I looked hurt. 719 00:42:45,482 --> 00:42:50,212 They also pulled me aside and said, "Look, 720 00:42:50,241 --> 00:42:53,071 just say, just say a statement. 721 00:42:53,103 --> 00:42:54,663 We can make sure you're safe. 722 00:42:54,664 --> 00:42:57,378 Just say a statement or give us a statement and we'll get the guy." 723 00:42:57,379 --> 00:43:01,619 They said the exact same thing to Josh. 724 00:43:01,655 --> 00:43:06,275 [Blair] Did... Is it your testimony that a police officer on May 21 725 00:43:06,310 --> 00:43:08,970 told you that it appeared you looked hurt? 726 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,860 He gestured- He or she gestured, 727 00:43:11,896 --> 00:43:14,786 I can't remember which one, to my face and said, 728 00:43:14,827 --> 00:43:17,307 "It's... We can tell you've been hurt 729 00:43:17,308 --> 00:43:19,550 or you don't look good" or something to that effect. 730 00:43:19,551 --> 00:43:21,688 But I don't remember the exact words they used. 731 00:43:21,689 --> 00:43:24,929 [officer 1 speaking] 732 00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:26,792 - [Amber] Now it is, yes. - [officer 1 speaking] 733 00:43:26,793 --> 00:43:28,103 [Amber speaking] 734 00:43:28,137 --> 00:43:30,517 [officer 1 speaking] 735 00:43:30,551 --> 00:43:32,341 [Amber speaking] 736 00:43:32,379 --> 00:43:34,169 [officer 1 speaking] 737 00:43:38,068 --> 00:43:41,138 One of the very interesting features of the case 738 00:43:41,172 --> 00:43:45,622 is that at no point did she make a criminal complaint 739 00:43:45,655 --> 00:43:50,375 or even go to the hospital where the injuries she said 740 00:43:50,413 --> 00:43:52,933 she suffered could have been easily documented 741 00:43:52,965 --> 00:43:55,445 and there would have been no argument to be had. 742 00:43:55,482 --> 00:43:59,522 [Blair] Did you ever report to any law enforcement authority 743 00:43:59,551 --> 00:44:03,001 other than the police, your claims that he did these things? 744 00:44:03,034 --> 00:44:06,004 No, I attempted as best as I could to hide this 745 00:44:07,517 --> 00:44:10,827 and keep our lives as private as possible. 746 00:44:10,862 --> 00:44:13,242 And I did what a lot of I guess women do. 747 00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,475 I tried to protect him. 748 00:44:16,068 --> 00:44:19,688 Amber Heard said she didn't want the publicity. 749 00:44:19,724 --> 00:44:21,904 She didn't want to make a complaint. 750 00:44:21,931 --> 00:44:24,551 But it's a very strange answer in circumstances 751 00:44:24,586 --> 00:44:28,306 where she did make a call straight away to her publicist. 752 00:44:28,344 --> 00:44:30,244 And only six days later, 753 00:44:30,275 --> 00:44:33,065 she went to court when she, as the evidence shows, 754 00:44:33,103 --> 00:44:36,003 she didn't need to go to court just to turn up 755 00:44:36,034 --> 00:44:40,454 and file her restraining order surrounded by paparazzi 756 00:44:40,482 --> 00:44:43,452 and with the most prominent appearing bruises. 757 00:44:46,448 --> 00:44:48,618 Our case was very much 758 00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:51,855 that she had manipulated the photographs. 759 00:44:51,856 --> 00:44:54,136 Two photographs taken almost exactly the same time 760 00:44:54,137 --> 00:44:55,637 looked completely different. 761 00:44:55,638 --> 00:45:00,240 [reporter 1] Did Johnny brutalize you, Amber? 762 00:45:00,241 --> 00:45:02,951 [reporter 2] Amber, did Johnny pay you to stay quiet? 763 00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:04,861 [reporter 3] Amber? 764 00:45:04,862 --> 00:45:06,274 [reporter 4] Amber, how are you feeling? 765 00:45:06,275 --> 00:45:08,619 [reporter 1] Amber, are you going to the doctor? 766 00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:11,330 [reporter 2] Amber, what do you have to say to Johnny? 767 00:45:30,103 --> 00:45:34,933 [David] Just after the restraining order which Amber Heard obtained, 768 00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:37,755 and she goes to his hotel room in San Francisco 769 00:45:37,793 --> 00:45:40,663 where she asked to see Johnny Depp. 770 00:45:40,689 --> 00:45:43,479 [Amber speaking] 771 00:45:46,827 --> 00:45:52,547 Now, the restraining order says he is not to come within 100 yards of her 772 00:45:52,586 --> 00:45:57,066 and yet she turns up on her own to a hotel room where he is. 773 00:45:57,103 --> 00:45:59,283 [Amber speaking] 774 00:45:59,284 --> 00:46:04,343 [David] The tape recording was made by her, not by him. 775 00:46:04,344 --> 00:46:05,764 He wasn't aware of it. 776 00:46:05,793 --> 00:46:11,243 - [Amber speaking] - [Johnny speaking] 777 00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:15,825 And one of the first things she does is to ask him to hug her. 778 00:46:15,862 --> 00:46:17,592 [Amber speaking] 779 00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:19,660 [indistinct chatter] 780 00:46:19,689 --> 00:46:24,519 [Amber speaking] 781 00:46:24,551 --> 00:46:28,901 - [Johnny speaking] - [Amber speaking] 782 00:46:31,793 --> 00:46:35,663 - [Johnny speaking] - [Amber speaking] 783 00:46:35,689 --> 00:46:38,589 - [Johnny speaking] - [Amber speaking] 784 00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:41,030 - [Johnny] Fucking... - [Amber speaking] 785 00:46:41,068 --> 00:46:42,758 [Johnny speaking] 786 00:46:42,793 --> 00:46:46,523 [Amber speaking] 787 00:46:48,448 --> 00:46:51,208 And he says, why on earth would I want to hug you 788 00:46:51,241 --> 00:46:53,621 when you said all of this shit about me, 789 00:46:53,622 --> 00:46:55,033 which was a reference, obviously, 790 00:46:55,034 --> 00:46:57,412 to the allegations which has been then been made public. 791 00:46:57,413 --> 00:47:00,693 [Johnny speaking] 792 00:47:12,034 --> 00:47:15,594 [Amber speaking] 793 00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:19,210 [Johnny speaking] 794 00:47:19,241 --> 00:47:22,551 [Amber speaking] 795 00:47:22,586 --> 00:47:25,026 [Johnny speaking] 796 00:47:25,068 --> 00:47:28,378 [Amber speaking] 797 00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:33,003 [Johnny speaking] 798 00:47:34,310 --> 00:47:38,070 [indistinct chatter] 799 00:47:38,103 --> 00:47:39,453 [Johnny speaking] 800 00:47:42,965 --> 00:47:47,545 But what happens afterwards is just so bizarre in circumstances 801 00:47:47,586 --> 00:47:51,336 where someone has said, you have been so violent. 802 00:47:51,379 --> 00:47:54,689 I fear for my life and I want the whole world to know 803 00:47:54,724 --> 00:47:56,954 and I don't want you to come anywhere near me. 804 00:47:56,965 --> 00:47:59,545 And that is that she gets tired 805 00:47:59,586 --> 00:48:03,306 and she asks if she can go to sleep in his hotel room, 806 00:48:03,344 --> 00:48:08,904 in his bed, and she invites him into the bed and he declines. 807 00:48:08,931 --> 00:48:12,171 [Johnny speaking] 808 00:48:12,206 --> 00:48:13,826 [Amber speaking] 809 00:48:13,862 --> 00:48:16,552 [indistinct chatter] 810 00:48:18,931 --> 00:48:23,791 [Johnny speaking] 811 00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:38,213 [Amber speaking] 812 00:48:38,241 --> 00:48:42,591 [Johnny speaking] 813 00:48:48,995 --> 00:48:53,274 [David] And he goes and sits in the living room 814 00:48:53,275 --> 00:48:55,275 and this is the evidence he gave. 815 00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:57,720 And he puts his head in his hands 816 00:48:57,758 --> 00:49:02,378 and he cries because he cannot understand how he's got to this position 817 00:49:02,413 --> 00:49:06,453 where his ex-wife, who is accusing him of all of this nonsense, 818 00:49:06,482 --> 00:49:08,592 all of this shit, as he describes it, 819 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:10,100 and she doesn't deny that. 820 00:49:10,137 --> 00:49:12,827 He's lying in his bed. 821 00:49:12,862 --> 00:49:15,242 And that's, we say, 822 00:49:15,275 --> 00:49:19,515 such a powerful point in demonstrating 823 00:49:19,551 --> 00:49:22,071 that these allegations were untrue. 824 00:49:40,324 --> 00:49:44,826 [Minnie] What Sasha Wass QC wanted to get across 825 00:49:44,827 --> 00:49:48,167 is that this was a pattern of behavior of a domestic abuser. 826 00:49:48,206 --> 00:49:49,546 And throughout the trial, 827 00:49:49,586 --> 00:49:53,306 you heard evidence that he had repeatedly attacked Amber Heard. 828 00:49:53,344 --> 00:49:55,904 [Johnny speaking] 829 00:49:55,931 --> 00:49:57,481 [Amber speaking] 830 00:49:57,517 --> 00:49:59,687 [Johnny speaking] 831 00:49:59,724 --> 00:50:05,764 There was the charming, sober, clean Mr. Depp, who was a joy to be around. 832 00:50:05,793 --> 00:50:09,723 And then there was what Mr. Depp called, the monster, 833 00:50:09,758 --> 00:50:14,208 the man who would be drunk, violent, and disagreeable. 834 00:50:14,241 --> 00:50:17,621 [Johnny speaking] 835 00:50:20,965 --> 00:50:26,475 [song playing] 836 00:50:26,525 --> 00:50:31,075 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 66946

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