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[Steve] Somebody's moaning.
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It was coming
from all around us.
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[Narrator] One of America's
oldest southern plantation homes...
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Bacon's Castle was
a very active plantation.
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[Narrator] Holds
a turbulent past...
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A lot of lives were lost on this
property, a lot of pain, torture.
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[Narrator] And residents
that haven't left.
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[Shari] Are you still
walking the grounds?
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There was a silhouette,
and something blew past me.
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I felt unwanted, like I needed
to get out of there now.
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[Jason] Are you
fighting for the south?
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Oh, there was a voice.
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- What happened?
- I heard "ahhh," right here.
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It was coming from the walls.
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*GHOST HUNTERS*
Season 15 Episode 04 (IMDB)
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Episode Title:
"The Castle Light Mystery"
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Bacon's Castle, man.
I'm excited.
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[Narrator] TAPS is in Surry,
Virginia, to investigate Bacon's Castle,
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a historic home,
with a notorious past.
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This castle is the oldest brick
house in the United States.
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- Wow.
- Over 350 years old, man.
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- How many stories are on that property?
- Oh, my God.
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We're being called in
by Jennifer Hurst-Wender,
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and she is
the Director of the museum,
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and operations,
and education over there.
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They just finished
all this renovation,
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and I guess activity's
really been kicking up,
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and they just want to make
sure that it's gonna be safe
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to start bring people in
there, with things going on.
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They've mainly been
seeing female apparitions,
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but they've also been
seeing this Civil War soldier.
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There's even
this weird castle light.
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Some people say that
it looks like a ball of fire,
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- other people say it literally looks like a light.
- Like a lantern.
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Steve and Jay,
for Dave and Shari.
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Go for Dave and Shari.
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What do you think about this Bacon
Castle light? We're pretty intrigued.
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Activity's been
happening for so long,
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I mean they
supposedly have articles...
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Dating back
you know, 16, 1700s.
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We got Ben Hansen,
UFO expert, checking it out.
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[Steve] It would be
interesting to get his take
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on whether there
could be some connection,
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- to UFOs on the castle light.
- Perfect.
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We have a TAPS family member
who's investigated the property,
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- Brad Bradley coming to - hang out with us as well.
- Sounds great.
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We're almost there
so, let's do this.
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[Narrator] TAPS case,
Bacon's Castle, Surry, Virginia.
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- Jennifer?
- Hi.
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- Jason.
- Hi, good to meet you.
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- Nice to meet you.
- Hi, I'm Steve, how are you?
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Why don't you tell us a little
of the history of Bacon's Castle.
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[Jennifer] Bacon's Castle was first
constructed for Arthur Allen in 1665.
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So how did it get
the name Bacon's Castle?
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In 1676, there was one
of the earliest rebellions,
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by British colonists, led by
a man named Nathaniel Bacon.
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[Jennifer] Several of Bacon's
rebel's encamped here.
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[Narrator] Following
Bacon's rebellion,
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the property stayed in the
Alan family for many generations,
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and was later inherited by Arthur Allan
the Third's wife, Elizabeth Bray Allan.
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She lived in the home
for over 60 years.
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In the 1840s, it became the home
of Confederate John Henry Hankins,
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who built an entire new wing
of the house for his wife,
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Louisiana and their
nine children,
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including oldest son
James Dewitt Hankins.
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[Jennifer] The Hankins turned this
property into a very active plantation,
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and there were
upwards of 80 individuals
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- that were enslaved here.
- Okay.
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[Narrator] After
the civil war,
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the Hankins family was
forced to sell the property,
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and it was privately owned,
until Preservation Virginia
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purchased it in the 1970s,
and turned it into a museum.
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Since then, visitors and staff
have reported paranormal activity.
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- So now, the activity that goes on here...
- Mm-hmm.
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Something I'm interested
in is this Bacon's light.
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So, the Bacon's
Castle light is by far
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the most well-known of
all of the paranormal stories,
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but it's reported
to be a fireball,
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and it's said to originate
from where the old church is,
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heading across the field, and then
ending in the tower at Bacon's castle.
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- And nobody's been able to figure it out?
- No.
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Have you ever seen
that or experienced it?
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I haven't but I talk to a lot of
the people in the community,
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and they always have
a cousin who's seen it.
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- Okay.
- Interesting.
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There's been reports of
female apparitions being seen.
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[Jennifer] The lady in white, sometimes
she's walking down the carriage lane,
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just straight in
front of the house.
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People have seen her in
the garden and on the stairs.
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[Demi] I came in, and there was a
silhouette standing up on the staircase,
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and it froze, and it smiled
at me, and just walked away.
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I said, "I'm not opening
the house by myself any more."
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[Jason] So you think the woman
that's been seen is the same woman?
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If it is tied to some
sort of person here,
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the strongest presence at Bacon's
Castle would be Elizabeth Bray Allen.
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[Narrator] After she suffered the
untimely death of her husband,
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and the tragic
loss of her two sons,
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Elizabeth oversaw the
property, running a tight ship.
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[Joanna] I was setting up for
a symposium in the chamber,
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- and I dropped - one of the chairs.
- [thudding]
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And all of a sudden, I heard
this knocking from up above,
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like almost somebody stomping,
telling me to be quiet.
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So I went upstairs
and everything was in place,
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and then I came
back downstairs,
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and one of the chairs was now
facing the opposite direction.
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Dropping the chair and making
the sound on the floor,
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it wouldn't have been something
Elizabeth would have appreciated.
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So there's reports of people
seeing a Confederate soldier,
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do you have any idea who
you think that might be?
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During the Civil War, James Dewitt
Hankins was a Confederate soldier,
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and came home from the war, and
ended up getting in a really messy duel,
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and died here, 24 hours later.
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[Jennifer] And he's buried in the
Hankins cemetery on this property.
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[Narrator] In the garret,
there's also been reports
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of children's
voices and footsteps.
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As I was going up the garret
stairs, I could hear footsteps...
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And then it felt like...
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Something blew past me.
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[Demi] I don't want to
go up there by myself.
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The garret was a place where enslaved
people and servants would have lived.
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[Narrator] Witnesses also feel
a presence in the cellar kitchen.
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I was in the cellar kitchen,
and all of a sudden,
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I felt like somebody
was right in front of me.
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I was frightened, hairs on the
back of my neck were standing up.
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I definitely felt
very much unwanted,
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like, I needed to
get out of there now.
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[Narrator] In other parts of the
house, voices have been heard.
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I was in the parlor room,
I heard a woman's voice.
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Sounded like it was
coming from upstairs,
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then shortly after she stopped
speaking, I heard another voice.
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I could not make any
words out specifically,
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I could just tell that there
was a conversation going on.
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I literally got
this cold chill,
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and every hair on
my body stood straight up.
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What are you mainly hoping
that we're able to accomplish here?
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We were closed
for a while for tours,
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and we were doing
some restoration work.
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We have had more things
happening in the recent months.
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The activity's picked up mainly
since you were doing the renovations?
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Yes, there is a lot of reports
from our guides and staff,
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and I think that
bringing you guys out here
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is really going to put our staff at
ease, we would like to find answers.
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Thank you so much
for taking the time.
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Thank you, thank you for taking
so much time to investigate.
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Of course.
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- Let's start setting up, and we'll do it carefully.
- Okay.
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The activity seems to
be outdoors and indoors,
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so we're going to focus the
investigation on the whole building.
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We're also going to
look into this castle light.
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With that, we've got our
good friend Ben Hansen
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coming out to join us
on the investigation,
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and Ben really specializes in
UFOs, strange light phenomenon,
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so, we're hoping that maybe we can
find some sort of an explanation for it,
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and just try to answer
some of these questions
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for Jen and any of these other
people of Bacon's Castle.
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- Good to see you man.
- Yeah, it's been a long time.
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- Ben, good to see you!
- Good to see you.
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- You too, you too.
- Wow.
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[Narrator] Ben Hansen
is not only a UFO expert,
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but a former FBI agent with
years of investigating under his belt,
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which is why
we're bringing him in.
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I'm here to help in any
way that you guys want,
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I did bring some
military night-vision stuff
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that would be really good
to kind of survey the outside.
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- Yeah, sure.
- No, I love the idea.
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What's the client
telling you?
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Well, she was telling us
about all types of activity
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that are going on throughout the
entire property, but that castle light,
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they've been talking
about for three centuries now.
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- Are you serious?
- Yeah, so it would be good to get your take on it.
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This particular
location is a swamp, right?
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So the idea of
swamp gas interested me,
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and what swamp gas is,
is that organic material
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that's breaking down
that turns into methane.
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[Ben] So it bubbles
up under the water,
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but if you can trap it,
you can light it on fire.
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-Wow. Right, I mean,
-take a look at this.
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[Man on video]
Three, two, one...
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- [Jason] Whoa!
- [Shari] Oh, my God.
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- [All laughing]
- Oh jeez, whoa.
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So you can ignite swamp gas,
but it seems like it would
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combust and then
disappear pretty quickly.
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- It does, it does.
- Yeah.
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Well this thing is flying through a
field, and so far I mean, it moving,
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like ball lightning or
something similar to that.
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So ball lightning doesn't
just happen on a clear day,
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you've got to
have storm activity,
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- it doesn't sound like it's that...
- Okay, yeah.
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Just because it's not doing
what you guys are talking about.
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I mean anything we can check
off the list will be good for us.
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[Jason] Okay, so how
are we doing cameras?
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[Dave] We're ready, just so
we, you know, are covered.
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We got coverage in all the areas
where activity's been reported.
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- [Jason] Yup.
- [Dave] Cameras are set up inside and on the grounds.
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[Jason] All right Shari, you start with
Ben and Tango in the chamber room,
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- and Steve and I will start on the first floor parlor.
- Yeah, let's get this started.
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All right, I'm excited.
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Let's go, lights out.
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[light switch clicking]
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[Steve] Jay and Steve...
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Heading into Bacon's Castle.
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[Clattering]
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This is where a lot of
recent activity has happened,
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over there, one of
the historians here,
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she heard a voice that really,
really scared her quite a bit.
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It was a female
voice, and it was
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a bit of a back and forth,
like a bit of a conversation.
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Is there anybody who
lived in this house here?
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[Jason] Are any of
the Hankins family with us?
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Steve, there's...
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That was clear on this, there
was just like this, "boom, boom."
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Are you trying to
come towards us?
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- [Thudding]
- [both] Oh.
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- There it is, did you hear it that time?
- I sure did.
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It's like a boot on wood.
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- It does sound like.
- It just did it again.
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If you're coming near us,
please keep on coming.
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- Gentlemen.
- Thank you.
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[Dave] All right, so this is Dave,
Shari and Ben entering the chamber.
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- [Ben] Now is this where the chairs moved?
- [Dave] Yes.
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[Ben] Let me take
a seat just for a second.
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[Dave] Elizabeth Bray Allen,
you lived on this property
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for over 60 years,
are you here with us?
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[Ben] Are you
in the other room?
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[Clicking]
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[Dave] It sounds
like somebody's walking.
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Are you walking this way?
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[Clicking continues]
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Oh, that was in the hall.
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- [Shari] Ooh [bleep] The front door is open.
- It is?
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[Shari] Oh, my God,
come check this out.
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[Shari] Ooh [bleep]
The front door is open.
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- Did anybody walk in the door?
- [Dave] No.
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[Shari] Right,
and nobody went out the door.
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I'll go open the door
from the outside.
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[Door clicking] - Could
that have been the clicking?
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- It sounded...
- Yeah.
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- Wait.
- Yeah, I mean that takes a lot.
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- But that is the sound.
- It was, like something was trying to open it to get in.
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- Right, that sounds like it.
- Yeah.
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- If it was just not latched properly...
- [Shari] Right.
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Wouldn't the air pressure of
the wind have blown it open?
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[Shari] It's a heavy
door, so no.
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Well, we're gonna have
to put a camera on it.
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- [Jason] Hey hey.
- [Dave] Hey guys.
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- That was a heck of a run.
- [Dave] Yeah.
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In the beginning, we were hearing
a clicking noise or snapping noise,
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and finally, this front
door opened, right,
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when you latch it,
when you close it,
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that turning was
the sound we were hearing.
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- Oh!
- Almost as if something was like, attempting to open it.
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- Yeah.
- And there's no wind tonight.
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- So yeah.
- Right.
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I figured tomorrow, we can
get a historian out here
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- to at least tell us about the property.
- Absolutely.
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I'd love to be able to
get in touch with an expert,
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on like,
African American history,
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that might be able to shed some light
on the enslaved people that were here.
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Yeah actually,
that's a good call.
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You know this light outside that
we haven't really explored yet,
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I think I'm going to look into
what other sightings of UFOs
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- might be going on outside to see if it's correlated.
- All right.
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All right, I think we'll get cranking
early on this stuff tomorrow.
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- Sounds great.
- All right, let's do this.
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- Good job, guys.
- You too.
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[Ben] Fireball, fireball-like
objects from the sky.
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This is Newport
news, it's really close.
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[Narrator] While Ben researches
recent aerial phenomenon
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that could
explain the castle light...
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- Hi.
- Hello.
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[Narrator] The TAPS team
is meeting with experts
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to learn more about
Bacon's Castle's history.
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This is an offering
to the ancestors,
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I can't come into
their sacred space,
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without first giving them an offering
and asking permission to be here.
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Wow, so who were the first
enslaved people in this area?
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[Yemima] They went
to Africa and they kidnapped,
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healers, and doctors, and
teachers, and enslaved them.
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That's awful.
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You worked seven days a week,
16, 17, 18 hours a day,
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they were the heartbeat
of the plantation.
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The enslaved
worked in the big house,
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they were under
scrutiny all the time,
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they had no
time for themselves,
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and especially the women
sacrificed so much,
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the women were expected to
have child after child after child,
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so that they could
increase the free labor.
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A lot of lives were
lost on this property,
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a lot heartache, a lot
of pain, a lot of torture.
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[Dave] So we know about the Allen and
Hankins families who owned this property,
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can you tell us more about the
enslaved people who lived here?
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[Lea] In 1673, there's a document and
seven men who are identified as black.
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- To me, it is a sign that they were enslaved here.
- Okay.
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Arthur Allen
the Second, was actually
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- the first person to enslave people here.
- Heartbreaking.
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One particular mother and
daughter pair that we know,
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Hannah shows up in 1711, in the state
inventory of Arthur Allen the Second's.
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The next time that we have
an estate inventory, is 1727,
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and at that point, Hannah's had
a child, and her name is Fanny,
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and it's possible that they
resided somewhere like the garret,
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depending on what role they
were filling in the household itself.
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[Narrator] Arthur Allen the Second also
employed a caretaker named John Finley,
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to oversee the enslaved
people and grounds.
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He lived in
the caretakers cottage.
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I thinks it's critical that we
experience the space with
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the deepest respect towards
the trauma that occurred here.
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- Well than you so much for your time.
- Of course, yeah.
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- Really appreciate that.
- Yeah, nice to talk to you guys.
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This was wonderful,
so thank you.
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It seems like there's a lot
of layers of history here
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- that could retain a lot of energy.
- Yeah.
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[Jason] What did your research
uncover about the castle light?
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We do have um,
a dozen or more reports,
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just within
the last few years,
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a lot of the descriptions
are spheres,
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fireballs, really
bright lights,
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almost always though
there's no sound to them,
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and at this point, I'm not quite
sure if it is related to UFOs,
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what I'd like to do is focus a
little bit on the outside tonight,
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and break out the specialty
cameras I have with night-vision.
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Yeah, why don't you do that,
Steve and I will head in the building,
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and you guys can actually check out
the property, and you can take outside.
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- All right.
- Awesome.
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Yeah, and to make life a
little easier, here's Brad, man.
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- Hey, how is everybody?
- How's it going Brad?
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[Narrator] Brad is a member
of a local TAPS crew,
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and we wanted him
on the investigation,
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as he's had
numerous experiences here.
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Visually, we had a door,
the doorknob turned,
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it popped,
it swung right open.
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- Oh wow, man.
- That's what happened to us.
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- It was crazy.
- Awesome, well I'm happy to have you on board.
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- Yeah, thanks for joining us.
- Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, thank you.
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- Let's get cranking.
- All right.
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Jay and Steve, headed
towards the cellar kitchen.
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That's the basement
area, where they feel
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an ominous presence,
and have seen an apparition.
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- [Soft voice on audio]
- Oh.
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There was
a voice, it was like a...
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Yeah honestly I'd have to say it
sounded younger though, but...
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[Steve] It's wild to know that
this floor was laid here in the...
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- 1600s, my God.
- [Jason] It's amazing.
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So I want to know what the
voice said when I opened that door.
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[Steve] Let's review the
recording and take a listen.
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[Woman's voice
speaking softly] - Oh, mm.
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We know this house
would have seen some
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individuals that were
here against their will.
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So is there anybody here who's like to
talk with us, maybe Hannah or Fanny?
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Are you here?
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[Ben] All right
Brad, so isn't this light
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mostly seen hovering
around the outside and inside?
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We've actually seen it both, we've
seen it on the outside and the inside.
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[Ben] Okay, these scopes
amplify light by like 80,000 times.
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- [Brad] Wow.
- [Ben] So here's your scope.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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[Brad] Oh wow.
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- And then...
- [Ben] You gotta think like,
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how long this has been reported
right, for several hundred years.
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[Brad] I mean, they've seen it in so
many different places on the property.
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What I think I'm going to do
is I'm gonna break out um,
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- a thermal camera here.
- Okay.
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[Ben] Pick up on that other
spectrum that we can't see.
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- [Brad] No.
- [Ben] Did you see that?
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[Ben] Do we have
anybody in the attic?
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- [Brad] You saw that?
- [Ben] Yeah, I saw that.
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It looked like
a flicker or a flash.
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I couldn't tell if it was reflecting
up the stairwell to the top.
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Now the stairwell
is in the back,
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- so that was something else up there.
- Yeah.
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[Dave] Let's go investigate
the Civil War soldier.
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- [Shari] Did you hear that?
- [Dave] No.
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There's noise over here.
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[Flashlight clicking]
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What did it sound like?
Like a chh-chh...
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- Oh, okay.
- Like that type of thing,
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- Cocking a gun type of thing?
- Yeah.
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[Dave] Well I mean,
that's where they saw
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the Civil War soldier,
in this direction.
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Is there a Civil War
soldier, here with us?
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[Shari] People see you
walking up and down this path.
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- [Dave] Look, there he is.
- Yeah?
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James Dewitt Hankins, buried
right next to his father John Henry.
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James Dewitt Hankins, are
you fighting for the South?
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You know what, let's
check in with Ben and Brad
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and see if they got any
progress with that castle light.
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[Steve] This is Jay and Steve,
entering the chamber room.
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[Jason] This is where
the chair turned around.
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[Steve] Ooh, right, you know what I
might do actually, with these sensors?
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- [Jason] Oh, that's actually not a bad idea at all.
- [Steve] Yeah.
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So if there's
anybody in this home...
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Any enslaved individuals...
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We'd really like
to talk with you.
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Were you enslaved and abused
by Arthur Allen the Second?
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Do you know Henry Hankins?
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- [Steve] Hmm.
- What?
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We've got something...
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Showing up quite hot...
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On that chair.
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Look at this, Jay,
you can see it.
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- Oh yeah, giving off a heat signature.
- [Steve] It's gone now.
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Was that, was there a ball of
bright flash out the window there?
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Somebody behind us?
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- Jay to Dave.
- Go for Dave.
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Hey, you guys didn't just flash a
light on the back of the house, did you?
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No, my flashlight was off.
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Just so you know,
Ben and Brad,
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they saw a flash
of light in the top floor.
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Dave, ask Brad and Ben
to investigate what they saw,
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we'll stay on the first floor, so we don't
contaminate each other, and they can head up.
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[Dave] Copy that.
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We saw it over
here in this hallway.
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- Right here?
- Yeah, it was that window right there.
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Hello?
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Did you flash the light to
make us come up here?
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We're here.
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- No source of light in that room, is there?
- [Brad] Nope.
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It's, the power is
off to this lamp.
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[Dave] So, this is where they've
seen the apparition of the lady in white,
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that people believe
is Elizabeth Bray Allen.
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- [Shari] Inside and out, they see her, yeah.
- Exactly.
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Elizabeth Bray Allen.
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[Dave] We know how
much you loved your house...
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And that you... What's that?
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- [Shari] Thought I heard something.
- [Dave] Okay.
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- How long ago?
- Just like, 15 seconds ago.
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- [Dave] Okay.
- [Shari] So Elizabeth, are you still walking the grounds?
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[Ben] I don't think
it came from in here,
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you can see how far
back the stairwell is.
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- Yup.
- Ooh, there's another flash.
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[Brad] Where is that
flash coming from?
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- Is it coming from in here?
- [Ben] Yeah.
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- [Brad] Definitely came from in here, right?
- Yeah.
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[Ben] What happened?
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[Ben] What?
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[Ben] Right in your ear?
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You just experienced what
everybody experiences in this hallway.
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[Kenny] Shut the [bleep] up.
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[Kenny] I heard, "ahhh."
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- It was right here.
- [Ben] Right in your ear?
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You just experienced what
everybody experiences in this hallway.
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I heard what seemed like
a breath from behind me.
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You can tell when
something's close to you.
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And in the moment,
I was definitely like,
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a little shocked like,
"did that happen?"
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That really freaks me out.
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You feel that
temperature change?
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Do you feel that?
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- [Brad] Me too.
- This part of me is 110...
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- Yup.
- And this part of me is about 70.
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[Brad] It's coming
from this way now.
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- [Ben] Really?
- [Kenny] Yeah, from here.
453
00:26:59,335 --> 00:27:00,735
Okay, I just got a whisper.
454
00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:06,092
Yeah, it was down here.
455
00:27:06,176 --> 00:27:07,226
- [Ben] There's no one there?
- [Brad] No.
456
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:08,961
- Did you hear a whisper?
- It was like a...
457
00:27:09,045 --> 00:27:12,465
It was like a higher pitch, almost
like a female going pshh-wshh.
458
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:14,967
- I just feel like there's something...
- There might be.
459
00:27:15,051 --> 00:27:17,685
Trying to get
our attention, but...
460
00:27:18,521 --> 00:27:21,522
Yeah, it was curious
and then it retreated.
461
00:27:27,697 --> 00:27:29,548
[Steve] Did you guys
end up finding anything out
462
00:27:29,632 --> 00:27:31,317
about that light that
you saw upstairs?
463
00:27:31,401 --> 00:27:35,020
Well, I wouldn't say
we found a light,
464
00:27:35,104 --> 00:27:39,525
but as we were up there, all of a sudden
our camera operator just jumps back,
465
00:27:39,609 --> 00:27:43,945
he felt like somebody
sighed right into his ear.
466
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,398
Twice we got what sounded like
467
00:27:46,482 --> 00:27:48,367
- quick little voices, "boom, boom."
- Yeah.
468
00:27:48,451 --> 00:27:50,402
You know, we tried
to investigate the garden,
469
00:27:50,486 --> 00:27:52,371
unfortunately we did
not get any interaction.
470
00:27:52,455 --> 00:27:53,906
We still have more time.
471
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:56,108
So in regards to
this Bacon's Castle light,
472
00:27:56,192 --> 00:27:59,311
I think it would help if you
talked to somebody else as well,
473
00:27:59,395 --> 00:28:01,213
so I set up a meeting
for you guys tomorrow
474
00:28:01,297 --> 00:28:02,615
with a local astronomer
at the planetarium.
475
00:28:02,699 --> 00:28:05,151
- Ooh that's awesome, thank you.
- Yeah.
476
00:28:05,235 --> 00:28:06,385
So you're pretty much
out of here, huh?
477
00:28:06,469 --> 00:28:09,188
Yeah, I would love to stay
and do more, believe me,
478
00:28:09,272 --> 00:28:11,590
but I do have some
other stuff I got to get to.
479
00:28:11,674 --> 00:28:13,359
But I wish you guys the best of
luck, and let me know how it goes.
480
00:28:13,443 --> 00:28:15,694
- Thank you Ben.
- Have a good one, I'll give you a shout.
481
00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:17,062
All right thanks man, it was
good to see you buddy.
482
00:28:17,146 --> 00:28:18,846
- Thank you so much.
- You're welcome man.
483
00:28:22,151 --> 00:28:24,819
[Narrator] While Shari and I
review last night's evidence,
484
00:28:26,256 --> 00:28:29,108
Steve and Dave head
to Old Dominion University...
485
00:28:29,192 --> 00:28:30,609
- This is nice.
- This is crazy looking, man.
486
00:28:30,693 --> 00:28:32,077
[Narrator] To meet
with Justin Mason...
487
00:28:32,161 --> 00:28:32,911
- Justin?
- Yes, hi.
488
00:28:32,995 --> 00:28:34,380
- Steve?
- How's it going, Steve.
489
00:28:34,464 --> 00:28:36,982
[Narrator] The director of their
state of the art planetarium.
490
00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:40,252
So as you know, we're nearby at
a place called Bacon's Castle right,
491
00:28:40,336 --> 00:28:42,555
and there's been
some phenomena there
492
00:28:42,639 --> 00:28:45,858
that they have called
Bacon's Castle light.
493
00:28:45,942 --> 00:28:48,527
Some people
call it a fireball,
494
00:28:48,611 --> 00:28:53,566
and it travels through the air and makes
its way up to a tower on the property.
495
00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:56,435
They've been seeing
this for 350 years,
496
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:57,402
this has been
going on a while.
497
00:28:57,486 --> 00:28:59,171
Our plan, and I know
you came here to see
498
00:28:59,255 --> 00:29:01,407
if can have astronomical
explanations for it,
499
00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:03,275
so if you want, we can
step in the planetarium,
500
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:04,843
and I'd be glad to
show you a few ideas.
501
00:29:04,927 --> 00:29:05,844
- Absolutely.
- Well come on in.
502
00:29:05,928 --> 00:29:07,528
Wow, awesome.
503
00:29:10,466 --> 00:29:14,286
[Justin] So back to Bacon's Castle
and what the light could potentially be,
504
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:17,038
- I programmed in a meteor shower for us.
- Oh, wow.
505
00:29:19,042 --> 00:29:20,492
- Oh!
- Oh, yup.
506
00:29:20,576 --> 00:29:22,043
You'll see them occasionally,
507
00:29:22,545 --> 00:29:24,597
- but you see how quick they are.
- Yeah.
508
00:29:24,681 --> 00:29:26,932
The reason you probably
couldn't make this stand up
509
00:29:27,016 --> 00:29:29,401
to the test of, "could this
be the source of the light?"
510
00:29:29,485 --> 00:29:33,939
Is they're up in the sky, and they
only last half a second, they're so quick.
511
00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:38,310
Let's do one more thing, I want to
show off what a fireball is in astronomy.
512
00:29:38,394 --> 00:29:40,512
- Okay.
- I'm going to put up something called a bolide.
513
00:29:40,596 --> 00:29:42,830
A bolide is a fireball.
514
00:29:43,299 --> 00:29:45,784
- Ooh.
- Wow!
515
00:29:45,868 --> 00:29:48,153
[Justin] The fireball is much
bigger and last longer,
516
00:29:48,237 --> 00:29:50,456
but again, it's still going
to be up in the sky,
517
00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:51,957
and it still
happens very quickly,
518
00:29:52,041 --> 00:29:53,459
it doesn't move
around on the ground.
519
00:29:53,543 --> 00:29:56,128
So maybe that could
account for one or two,
520
00:29:56,212 --> 00:29:58,297
you know, stories,
but not all of them.
521
00:29:58,381 --> 00:30:00,099
- Certainly you're right, yeah.
- Right.
522
00:30:00,183 --> 00:30:02,635
- I've learned so much.
- Me too, thank you.
523
00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:04,937
- Really, really appreciate it.
- Glad to help any time again.
524
00:30:05,021 --> 00:30:06,538
Yeah, this is
great information.
525
00:30:06,622 --> 00:30:10,376
[Steve] This is earthbound
phenomenon, nothing aerial.
526
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:11,900
[Dave] Right, so
we've ruled it out.
527
00:30:12,395 --> 00:30:13,875
[Narrator] Despite
our best efforts,
528
00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:18,550
we still don't have any
explanation for the castle light.
529
00:30:18,634 --> 00:30:22,955
Tonight, we'll continue to try to reach
the Allen and Hankins family members,
530
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,973
as well as any enslaved people
who lived on the property.
531
00:30:28,077 --> 00:30:29,962
All right, we're going
to head to the cottage.
532
00:30:30,046 --> 00:30:33,132
[Jason] Dave and Steve, why don't
you hit the second floor in the garret,
533
00:30:33,216 --> 00:30:35,334
- and Brad, can you man the monitors?
- All right.
534
00:30:35,418 --> 00:30:36,568
- All right.
- I'll see you guys in a few.
535
00:30:36,652 --> 00:30:37,785
See you guys.
536
00:30:49,532 --> 00:30:50,564
After you, Shar.
537
00:30:51,401 --> 00:30:52,717
Thank you.
538
00:30:52,801 --> 00:30:54,987
[Narrator] We wanted to
investigate the caretakers cottage,
539
00:30:55,071 --> 00:30:58,524
as one of our crew members had
an experience here earlier today.
540
00:30:58,608 --> 00:31:00,459
We set up our production
office in the caretakers cottage,
541
00:31:00,543 --> 00:31:04,229
so we wouldn't
contaminate the main castle.
542
00:31:04,313 --> 00:31:06,332
I was in there standing by
the craft service table,
543
00:31:06,416 --> 00:31:08,949
and I heard some
footsteps upstairs...
544
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,653
Like rapid steps.
545
00:31:13,122 --> 00:31:15,908
I've been on a couple of
seasons of Ghost Hunters,
546
00:31:15,992 --> 00:31:19,345
but I've never had anything like
this happen to me before in my life.
547
00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:22,281
[Jason] All right so, John
Finley oversaw this property
548
00:31:22,365 --> 00:31:25,484
for Arthur Allen
the Second in the 1600s.
549
00:31:25,568 --> 00:31:27,768
This is a footstep tracker.
550
00:31:29,572 --> 00:31:33,073
It'll help us identify if
anything's moving.
551
00:31:34,277 --> 00:31:35,543
- Pretty good.
- [Shari] Yeah.
552
00:31:38,414 --> 00:31:40,681
Is there a John Finley here?
553
00:31:44,654 --> 00:31:46,887
If there's anybody here,
we'd like to talk with you.
554
00:31:48,758 --> 00:31:52,593
[Jason] By knocking, it will
allow us to see your answers.
555
00:31:53,429 --> 00:31:56,597
So if you knock
once like this for "yes..."
556
00:31:57,900 --> 00:31:59,500
And twice...
557
00:32:00,303 --> 00:32:02,321
For a "no."
558
00:32:02,405 --> 00:32:05,940
If you understand that,
can you knock once for yes?
559
00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:09,344
It lit up there.
560
00:32:10,213 --> 00:32:13,013
Are you able to
knock twice for a "no?"
561
00:32:15,418 --> 00:32:17,918
- Ooh that was twice.
- [Shari] Oh, that was twice.
562
00:32:26,262 --> 00:32:29,063
[Jason] Are you able to
knock twice for a "no?"
563
00:32:31,501 --> 00:32:33,634
- Ooh that was twice.
- [Shari] Oh, that was twice.
564
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:36,355
[Jason] Okay.
565
00:32:36,439 --> 00:32:38,038
Did you used to
live in this house?
566
00:32:38,541 --> 00:32:39,491
[Banging]
567
00:32:39,575 --> 00:32:41,193
- Yes.
- [Jason] And that was a loud bang.
568
00:32:41,277 --> 00:32:42,561
[Shari] That was a yes.
569
00:32:42,645 --> 00:32:43,962
- [Jason] I heard that.
- [Shari] Yeah.
570
00:32:44,046 --> 00:32:46,046
Is your name John?
571
00:32:47,984 --> 00:32:49,468
- [Shari] Yes.
- And that was a thump.
572
00:32:49,552 --> 00:32:51,937
- [Shari] That was a strong one, yeah.
- That was like a "boom."
573
00:32:52,021 --> 00:32:54,373
It's happening right
when we ask questions.
574
00:32:54,457 --> 00:32:56,991
We've come up
from Massachusetts.
575
00:32:59,228 --> 00:33:02,948
- [Shari] It did it twice.
- We're northern, Yankees.
576
00:33:03,032 --> 00:33:05,599
Are you still willing
to talk with us?
577
00:33:07,303 --> 00:33:10,938
- That was a no?
- [Shari] That was like, an "absolutely no."
578
00:33:14,076 --> 00:33:15,643
All right, I'm going to leave.
579
00:33:19,515 --> 00:33:21,982
This is Dave and Steve,
entering the upstairs bedroom.
580
00:33:26,255 --> 00:33:30,642
Oh, look at this old drawing.
581
00:33:30,726 --> 00:33:34,379
September 20th,
1880 something.
582
00:33:34,463 --> 00:33:36,315
[Dave] This is time travel.
583
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:38,317
Does that say
anything, is that a name?
584
00:33:38,401 --> 00:33:39,867
[Soft moaning]
585
00:33:41,637 --> 00:33:43,355
- [Steve] They drew Hankins.
- [Dave] Did you hear that?
586
00:33:43,439 --> 00:33:44,805
Humming?
587
00:33:45,808 --> 00:33:48,509
- [Thumping]
- [whispers] There.
588
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:51,812
I heard that.
589
00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:56,650
[Static and humming]
590
00:33:57,386 --> 00:33:59,404
- I heard that.
- [Dave] Did you say Hankins?
591
00:33:59,488 --> 00:34:02,990
- Yes.
- Can you hear us talking about this?
592
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,529
- [Static and moaning]
- Where is that coming from?
593
00:34:12,568 --> 00:34:14,419
- It sounds like sadness.
- Like moaning.
594
00:34:14,503 --> 00:34:20,641
- Like someone behind a
door or, a hidden... - [moaning]
595
00:34:23,479 --> 00:34:25,230
That's somebody
moaning, like crying.
596
00:34:25,314 --> 00:34:26,665
- That's somebody moaning.
- Somebody's moaning.
597
00:34:26,749 --> 00:34:29,568
[Unintelligible moaning]
598
00:34:29,652 --> 00:34:30,751
Where is that coming from?
599
00:34:35,658 --> 00:34:36,824
Hello?
600
00:34:37,893 --> 00:34:38,959
Are you okay?
601
00:34:41,063 --> 00:34:42,329
Can we help you?
602
00:34:44,066 --> 00:34:46,518
[Dave] That was
straight up, like, despair.
603
00:34:46,602 --> 00:34:49,903
- It was like someone sobbing in a corner or something.
- Sobbing.
604
00:34:51,607 --> 00:34:53,641
[Steve] If you can show
us where you are...
605
00:34:55,044 --> 00:34:56,610
We'll come to you.
606
00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:02,916
Do you know James Hankins?
607
00:35:03,786 --> 00:35:05,919
Was he your enslaver?
608
00:35:07,156 --> 00:35:08,540
- It's gone.
- It's gone.
609
00:35:08,624 --> 00:35:11,276
Did we just witness
a residual sound...
610
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,860
Of crying?
611
00:35:13,663 --> 00:35:16,949
[Steve] I got these willy
bumps everywhere.
612
00:35:17,033 --> 00:35:19,351
James Dewitt Hankins
died right here,
613
00:35:19,435 --> 00:35:21,753
after he was
injured in that duel.
614
00:35:21,837 --> 00:35:23,937
Maybe the sobbing
is his mother.
615
00:35:26,509 --> 00:35:27,693
That was insane.
616
00:35:27,777 --> 00:35:30,678
[Static]
617
00:35:33,049 --> 00:35:34,915
- [Thumping]
- That is...
618
00:35:36,285 --> 00:35:37,685
[Dave] Is that us?
619
00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:42,656
- [Garbled speaking]
- That has to be us.
620
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,878
Steve for Jay.
621
00:35:46,962 --> 00:35:48,180
Go ahead Steve, it's Jay.
622
00:35:48,264 --> 00:35:53,385
I just wanted to make sure
that you're not in the house.
623
00:35:53,469 --> 00:35:56,655
There is nobody in the house,
it is only you and Dave,
624
00:35:56,739 --> 00:36:00,040
and I am in
the TAPS van, closed.
625
00:36:01,043 --> 00:36:02,609
That was a straight up voice.
626
00:36:09,318 --> 00:36:10,502
That was a straight up voice.
627
00:36:10,586 --> 00:36:14,021
Jay, Dave and I
just heard sobbing,
628
00:36:14,724 --> 00:36:16,942
for three minutes straight.
629
00:36:17,026 --> 00:36:18,510
For three minutes straight?
630
00:36:18,594 --> 00:36:20,245
Could you tell where the
sobbing was coming from, Steve?
631
00:36:20,329 --> 00:36:24,983
It was coming from the walls, it
was coming from all around us.
632
00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:28,353
[Steve] We're going to see if
we can get it to happen again.
633
00:36:28,437 --> 00:36:33,225
[Dave] They say that they hear a
lot of voices upstairs, in the garret.
634
00:36:33,309 --> 00:36:35,127
- Let's go up there next.
- Yup.
635
00:36:35,211 --> 00:36:37,329
Dave and I want to
check out the garret,
636
00:36:37,413 --> 00:36:40,432
an attic space where enslaved
women and children lived.
637
00:36:40,516 --> 00:36:42,801
It's possible that
the sobbing sound
638
00:36:42,885 --> 00:36:47,172
was coming from this area,
instead of the bedroom below.
639
00:36:47,256 --> 00:36:49,957
[Dave] This is where an employee
felt a presence whoosh by her.
640
00:36:56,565 --> 00:37:00,567
Hannah, are you here with
your daughter, Fanny?
641
00:37:02,471 --> 00:37:04,189
We know you were
both enslaved here,
642
00:37:04,273 --> 00:37:06,039
when this property
was a plantation.
643
00:37:11,847 --> 00:37:14,982
Fanny, is that you
we've heard sobbing here?
644
00:37:17,553 --> 00:37:20,072
The sobbing seems
to have subsided.
645
00:37:20,156 --> 00:37:21,989
[Dave] Man,
that was incredible.
646
00:37:23,425 --> 00:37:26,044
[Jason] Hey, it's been a great
investigation, lets wrap.
647
00:37:26,128 --> 00:37:28,495
We have a lot of
evidence to check out.
648
00:37:30,065 --> 00:37:33,185
One of the most interesting
parts about the investigation,
649
00:37:33,269 --> 00:37:37,189
is we were able to connect some
of the experiences and evidence
650
00:37:37,273 --> 00:37:40,425
to experiences that
our clients were having.
651
00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:42,527
All of that made
for a great investigation,
652
00:37:42,611 --> 00:37:46,847
and I'm excited to see what Jennifer
thinks of what we have to bring her.
653
00:37:58,027 --> 00:37:59,593
- All right.
- All right.
654
00:38:03,499 --> 00:38:06,318
- Hey Jen, thanks for coming over.
- Yeah, absolutely.
655
00:38:06,402 --> 00:38:08,353
It was definitely
an interesting investigation.
656
00:38:08,437 --> 00:38:10,255
We were able to gather
a lot of evidence,
657
00:38:10,339 --> 00:38:14,159
we've had a lot of experiences which
back up the claims that you all had,
658
00:38:14,243 --> 00:38:16,561
at one point, we were
downstairs in the basement area,
659
00:38:16,645 --> 00:38:18,630
and there was
a quick, female voice,
660
00:38:18,714 --> 00:38:22,082
- and, I'll get the headphones, here you go.
- Okay, thank you.
661
00:38:26,455 --> 00:38:27,239
Whoa.
662
00:38:27,323 --> 00:38:28,273
So what does
it sound like to you?
663
00:38:28,357 --> 00:38:30,624
- It really sounds like "creek."
- Creek?
664
00:38:35,364 --> 00:38:40,485
Elizabeth Bray Allen's son
died in a creek, just so you know.
665
00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:42,053
- Really?
- Mm-hmm.
666
00:38:42,137 --> 00:38:43,837
- What?
- He drowned.
667
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,959
Okay, so that might
hold a lot more merit, wow.
668
00:38:48,043 --> 00:38:51,778
[Steve] So this voice could
be Elizabeth Bray Allen's.
669
00:38:54,350 --> 00:38:58,236
There was also another intriguing
situation in the caretakers cottage.
670
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,337
- Mm-hmm.
- I headed over there with Shari,
671
00:38:59,421 --> 00:39:02,340
we were able to
get direct responses,
672
00:39:02,424 --> 00:39:05,510
and we're asking if they live in
this house, and then we also asked,
673
00:39:05,594 --> 00:39:07,479
"is your name John?"
because there was John Finley,
674
00:39:07,563 --> 00:39:10,731
who was the overseer
who stayed on the property.
675
00:39:12,034 --> 00:39:13,485
[Shari] Did you used
to live in this house?
676
00:39:13,569 --> 00:39:15,554
- You see the one?
- Uh-huh.
677
00:39:15,638 --> 00:39:18,723
For "yes," and you heard
the bang, now watch.
678
00:39:18,807 --> 00:39:20,540
[Jason] Is your name John?
679
00:39:22,711 --> 00:39:26,198
So it shows direct communication,
it shows intelligence.
680
00:39:26,282 --> 00:39:29,167
Tango and I, you know, we were
investigating in this room,
681
00:39:29,251 --> 00:39:31,002
and we actually
heard this sobbing.
682
00:39:31,086 --> 00:39:33,687
It was really intense,
and quite emotional.
683
00:39:40,763 --> 00:39:43,414
- [Steve] There's - somebody moaning.
- [Dave] Sound like crying.
684
00:39:43,498 --> 00:39:44,731
Were you able to hear it?
685
00:39:45,234 --> 00:39:48,086
- And it just goes, it just goes.
- Well that sounded spooky.
686
00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:50,388
It was loud, and in
this room with us.
687
00:39:50,472 --> 00:39:52,357
This could connect
to your story about
688
00:39:52,441 --> 00:39:55,594
Elizabeth Bray Allen
losing her son,
689
00:39:55,678 --> 00:39:59,780
or possibly Hannah and her daughter
Fanny, who were enslaved here.
690
00:40:03,852 --> 00:40:06,304
What that crying
or sobbing is,
691
00:40:06,388 --> 00:40:08,139
I'm not sure we could
ever say who or what,
692
00:40:08,223 --> 00:40:11,109
but it's very,
very emotional and sad,
693
00:40:11,193 --> 00:40:15,213
- but hopefully, those tortured people are now at peace.
- Right.
694
00:40:15,297 --> 00:40:19,251
And there's a phenomenon here
that been reported for a long, long time,
695
00:40:19,335 --> 00:40:20,986
- the Bacon's Castle light...
- Right.
696
00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:23,188
- We did a lot to figure it out.
- Right.
697
00:40:23,272 --> 00:40:26,024
Ben Hansen was with us using
special night-vision cameras,
698
00:40:26,108 --> 00:40:28,360
trying to figure
different things out,
699
00:40:28,444 --> 00:40:32,464
it's not planetary light, it's not
interstellar light -From the stories.
700
00:40:32,548 --> 00:40:36,368
It appears that it moves with some sort
of intelligence, it knows where it's going.
701
00:40:36,452 --> 00:40:39,104
It very well could be
something paranormal.
702
00:40:39,188 --> 00:40:43,208
But paranormal is inherently kind of
scary because you don't understand it,
703
00:40:43,292 --> 00:40:45,443
- but it doesn't have to be that way.
- Right.
704
00:40:45,527 --> 00:40:48,847
And there definitely seems to
be some intelligence going on,
705
00:40:48,931 --> 00:40:51,116
but also some
residual type haunts.
706
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,320
Is it Elizabeth Bray Allen, Hannah or
her daughter Fanny, we can't be sure.
707
00:40:55,404 --> 00:40:58,089
I think everybody here,
it might startle them if they
708
00:40:58,173 --> 00:41:00,392
see somebody or hear
something, but I don't think
709
00:41:00,476 --> 00:41:03,028
- there's really anything to be afraid of.
- That's good news.
710
00:41:03,112 --> 00:41:07,614
I think there's just so much more
to the story of Bacon's Castle that,
711
00:41:08,183 --> 00:41:10,302
- I think it still wants to be told.
- Yeah, absolutely.
712
00:41:10,386 --> 00:41:14,372
Well thank you so much, and a lot
of things are still remaining a mystery,
713
00:41:14,456 --> 00:41:19,511
- but I'm really glad that, you came out.
- Well thanks for having us.
714
00:41:19,595 --> 00:41:21,980
[Jennifer] I always felt that
there were things here,
715
00:41:22,064 --> 00:41:25,350
but having TAPS come and
present all of this evidence
716
00:41:25,434 --> 00:41:27,385
that does put
just another layer,
717
00:41:27,469 --> 00:41:29,988
to this kind of
unknown story that we have.
718
00:41:30,072 --> 00:41:32,157
I'm really glad that
the results are coming back
719
00:41:32,241 --> 00:41:34,574
that nobody does
need to be scared.
720
00:41:36,378 --> 00:41:38,930
- So, I think that went well, man.
- It actually really did.
721
00:41:39,014 --> 00:41:41,633
She seemed to enjoy what
we were playing for her,
722
00:41:41,717 --> 00:41:45,170
perhaps because she's so
invested in this property's history.
723
00:41:45,254 --> 00:41:46,504
Yeah, totally.
724
00:41:46,588 --> 00:41:47,806
You also know
that it was crazy,
725
00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:50,275
on that audio,
she heard "creek,"
726
00:41:50,359 --> 00:41:54,446
and the fact that we didn't even
know that she had lost her son...
727
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:56,214
- In a creek.
- I mean, oh my gosh.
728
00:41:56,298 --> 00:41:58,783
[Jason] Well I'm just
happy the case went well,
729
00:41:58,873 --> 00:42:00,922
and Jen's happy, and you know what,
730
00:42:01,007 --> 00:42:02,765
- on to the next, brother.
- Yeah man.
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