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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,882 --> 00:00:09,460 [Steve] Somebody's moaning. 2 00:00:09,664 --> 00:00:11,688 It was coming from all around us. 3 00:00:11,773 --> 00:00:14,665 [Narrator] One of America's oldest southern plantation homes... 4 00:00:14,749 --> 00:00:18,399 Bacon's Castle was a very active plantation. 5 00:00:18,484 --> 00:00:20,286 [Narrator] Holds a turbulent past... 6 00:00:20,371 --> 00:00:24,925 A lot of lives were lost on this property, a lot of pain, torture. 7 00:00:25,009 --> 00:00:27,161 [Narrator] And residents that haven't left. 8 00:00:27,245 --> 00:00:29,363 [Shari] Are you still walking the grounds? 9 00:00:29,447 --> 00:00:33,400 There was a silhouette, and something blew past me. 10 00:00:33,484 --> 00:00:37,520 I felt unwanted, like I needed to get out of there now. 11 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:40,174 [Jason] Are you fighting for the south? 12 00:00:40,258 --> 00:00:42,510 Oh, there was a voice. 13 00:00:42,594 --> 00:00:45,628 - What happened? - I heard "ahhh," right here. 14 00:00:45,730 --> 00:00:47,663 It was coming from the walls. 15 00:00:48,058 --> 00:00:50,375 *GHOST HUNTERS* Season 15 Episode 04 (IMDB) 16 00:00:50,459 --> 00:00:52,459 Episode Title: "The Castle Light Mystery" 17 00:00:58,876 --> 00:01:02,096 Bacon's Castle, man. I'm excited. 18 00:01:02,180 --> 00:01:06,200 [Narrator] TAPS is in Surry, Virginia, to investigate Bacon's Castle, 19 00:01:06,284 --> 00:01:09,803 a historic home, with a notorious past. 20 00:01:09,887 --> 00:01:14,308 This castle is the oldest brick house in the United States. 21 00:01:14,392 --> 00:01:17,059 - Wow. - Over 350 years old, man. 22 00:01:18,363 --> 00:01:22,665 - How many stories are on that property? - Oh, my God. 23 00:01:23,701 --> 00:01:26,453 We're being called in by Jennifer Hurst-Wender, 24 00:01:26,537 --> 00:01:28,489 and she is the Director of the museum, 25 00:01:28,573 --> 00:01:30,558 and operations, and education over there. 26 00:01:30,642 --> 00:01:33,027 They just finished all this renovation, 27 00:01:33,111 --> 00:01:35,329 and I guess activity's really been kicking up, 28 00:01:35,413 --> 00:01:37,398 and they just want to make sure that it's gonna be safe 29 00:01:37,482 --> 00:01:40,134 to start bring people in there, with things going on. 30 00:01:40,218 --> 00:01:42,836 They've mainly been seeing female apparitions, 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,640 but they've also been seeing this Civil War soldier. 32 00:01:46,724 --> 00:01:50,010 There's even this weird castle light. 33 00:01:50,094 --> 00:01:54,114 Some people say that it looks like a ball of fire, 34 00:01:54,198 --> 00:01:58,352 - other people say it literally looks like a light. - Like a lantern. 35 00:01:58,436 --> 00:02:00,770 Steve and Jay, for Dave and Shari. 36 00:02:00,905 --> 00:02:02,389 Go for Dave and Shari. 37 00:02:02,473 --> 00:02:06,594 What do you think about this Bacon Castle light? We're pretty intrigued. 38 00:02:06,678 --> 00:02:08,596 Activity's been happening for so long, 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,532 I mean they supposedly have articles... 40 00:02:11,616 --> 00:02:13,968 Dating back you know, 16, 1700s. 41 00:02:14,052 --> 00:02:17,438 We got Ben Hansen, UFO expert, checking it out. 42 00:02:17,522 --> 00:02:19,540 [Steve] It would be interesting to get his take 43 00:02:19,624 --> 00:02:20,841 on whether there could be some connection, 44 00:02:20,925 --> 00:02:23,826 - to UFOs on the castle light. - Perfect. 45 00:02:26,064 --> 00:02:29,249 We have a TAPS family member who's investigated the property, 46 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:33,153 - Brad Bradley coming to - hang out with us as well. - Sounds great. 47 00:02:33,237 --> 00:02:35,871 We're almost there so, let's do this. 48 00:02:41,512 --> 00:02:44,980 [Narrator] TAPS case, Bacon's Castle, Surry, Virginia. 49 00:02:53,324 --> 00:02:54,041 - Jennifer? - Hi. 50 00:02:54,125 --> 00:02:55,042 - Jason. - Hi, good to meet you. 51 00:02:55,126 --> 00:02:57,493 - Nice to meet you. - Hi, I'm Steve, how are you? 52 00:02:58,362 --> 00:03:02,182 Why don't you tell us a little of the history of Bacon's Castle. 53 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:07,388 [Jennifer] Bacon's Castle was first constructed for Arthur Allen in 1665. 54 00:03:07,472 --> 00:03:09,990 So how did it get the name Bacon's Castle? 55 00:03:10,074 --> 00:03:14,395 In 1676, there was one of the earliest rebellions, 56 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:18,198 by British colonists, led by a man named Nathaniel Bacon. 57 00:03:18,282 --> 00:03:21,717 [Jennifer] Several of Bacon's rebel's encamped here. 58 00:03:22,987 --> 00:03:24,938 [Narrator] Following Bacon's rebellion, 59 00:03:25,022 --> 00:03:28,275 the property stayed in the Alan family for many generations, 60 00:03:28,359 --> 00:03:33,447 and was later inherited by Arthur Allan the Third's wife, Elizabeth Bray Allan. 61 00:03:33,531 --> 00:03:36,183 She lived in the home for over 60 years. 62 00:03:36,267 --> 00:03:41,288 In the 1840s, it became the home of Confederate John Henry Hankins, 63 00:03:41,372 --> 00:03:43,490 who built an entire new wing of the house for his wife, 64 00:03:43,574 --> 00:03:45,793 Louisiana and their nine children, 65 00:03:45,877 --> 00:03:49,329 including oldest son James Dewitt Hankins. 66 00:03:49,413 --> 00:03:54,268 [Jennifer] The Hankins turned this property into a very active plantation, 67 00:03:54,352 --> 00:03:57,237 and there were upwards of 80 individuals 68 00:03:57,321 --> 00:03:58,988 - that were enslaved here. - Okay. 69 00:04:00,024 --> 00:04:01,508 [Narrator] After the civil war, 70 00:04:01,592 --> 00:04:03,977 the Hankins family was forced to sell the property, 71 00:04:04,061 --> 00:04:07,081 and it was privately owned, until Preservation Virginia 72 00:04:07,165 --> 00:04:12,086 purchased it in the 1970s, and turned it into a museum. 73 00:04:12,170 --> 00:04:17,291 Since then, visitors and staff have reported paranormal activity. 74 00:04:17,375 --> 00:04:20,327 - So now, the activity that goes on here... - Mm-hmm. 75 00:04:20,411 --> 00:04:22,596 Something I'm interested in is this Bacon's light. 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,599 So, the Bacon's Castle light is by far 77 00:04:25,683 --> 00:04:29,169 the most well-known of all of the paranormal stories, 78 00:04:29,253 --> 00:04:32,272 but it's reported to be a fireball, 79 00:04:32,356 --> 00:04:36,343 and it's said to originate from where the old church is, 80 00:04:36,427 --> 00:04:41,482 heading across the field, and then ending in the tower at Bacon's castle. 81 00:04:41,566 --> 00:04:44,418 - And nobody's been able to figure it out? - No. 82 00:04:44,502 --> 00:04:47,187 Have you ever seen that or experienced it? 83 00:04:47,271 --> 00:04:51,291 I haven't but I talk to a lot of the people in the community, 84 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:53,060 and they always have a cousin who's seen it. 85 00:04:53,144 --> 00:04:54,228 - Okay. - Interesting. 86 00:04:54,312 --> 00:04:59,466 There's been reports of female apparitions being seen. 87 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:03,570 [Jennifer] The lady in white, sometimes she's walking down the carriage lane, 88 00:05:03,654 --> 00:05:04,905 just straight in front of the house. 89 00:05:04,989 --> 00:05:10,010 People have seen her in the garden and on the stairs. 90 00:05:10,094 --> 00:05:15,849 [Demi] I came in, and there was a silhouette standing up on the staircase, 91 00:05:15,933 --> 00:05:20,354 and it froze, and it smiled at me, and just walked away. 92 00:05:20,438 --> 00:05:24,158 I said, "I'm not opening the house by myself any more." 93 00:05:24,242 --> 00:05:27,127 [Jason] So you think the woman that's been seen is the same woman? 94 00:05:27,211 --> 00:05:30,998 If it is tied to some sort of person here, 95 00:05:31,082 --> 00:05:35,469 the strongest presence at Bacon's Castle would be Elizabeth Bray Allen. 96 00:05:35,553 --> 00:05:38,138 [Narrator] After she suffered the untimely death of her husband, 97 00:05:38,222 --> 00:05:40,908 and the tragic loss of her two sons, 98 00:05:40,992 --> 00:05:44,693 Elizabeth oversaw the property, running a tight ship. 99 00:05:45,529 --> 00:05:48,615 [Joanna] I was setting up for a symposium in the chamber, 100 00:05:48,699 --> 00:05:52,719 - and I dropped - one of the chairs. - [thudding] 101 00:05:52,803 --> 00:05:56,790 And all of a sudden, I heard this knocking from up above, 102 00:05:56,874 --> 00:05:59,526 like almost somebody stomping, telling me to be quiet. 103 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:02,778 So I went upstairs and everything was in place, 104 00:06:03,214 --> 00:06:06,066 and then I came back downstairs, 105 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:09,818 and one of the chairs was now facing the opposite direction. 106 00:06:10,988 --> 00:06:14,007 Dropping the chair and making the sound on the floor, 107 00:06:14,091 --> 00:06:17,526 it wouldn't have been something Elizabeth would have appreciated. 108 00:06:18,195 --> 00:06:21,730 So there's reports of people seeing a Confederate soldier, 109 00:06:22,433 --> 00:06:25,485 do you have any idea who you think that might be? 110 00:06:25,569 --> 00:06:30,190 During the Civil War, James Dewitt Hankins was a Confederate soldier, 111 00:06:30,274 --> 00:06:35,010 and came home from the war, and ended up getting in a really messy duel, 112 00:06:35,313 --> 00:06:38,432 and died here, 24 hours later. 113 00:06:38,516 --> 00:06:44,104 [Jennifer] And he's buried in the Hankins cemetery on this property. 114 00:06:44,188 --> 00:06:46,006 [Narrator] In the garret, there's also been reports 115 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:49,509 of children's voices and footsteps. 116 00:06:49,593 --> 00:06:53,696 As I was going up the garret stairs, I could hear footsteps... 117 00:06:55,466 --> 00:06:56,932 And then it felt like... 118 00:06:58,402 --> 00:07:00,087 Something blew past me. 119 00:07:00,171 --> 00:07:03,257 [Demi] I don't want to go up there by myself. 120 00:07:03,341 --> 00:07:08,911 The garret was a place where enslaved people and servants would have lived. 121 00:07:12,350 --> 00:07:16,036 [Narrator] Witnesses also feel a presence in the cellar kitchen. 122 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,940 I was in the cellar kitchen, and all of a sudden, 123 00:07:20,024 --> 00:07:24,411 I felt like somebody was right in front of me. 124 00:07:24,495 --> 00:07:29,498 I was frightened, hairs on the back of my neck were standing up. 125 00:07:30,034 --> 00:07:32,986 I definitely felt very much unwanted, 126 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:36,290 like, I needed to get out of there now. 127 00:07:36,374 --> 00:07:39,508 [Narrator] In other parts of the house, voices have been heard. 128 00:07:40,578 --> 00:07:44,713 I was in the parlor room, I heard a woman's voice. 129 00:07:45,216 --> 00:07:47,968 Sounded like it was coming from upstairs, 130 00:07:48,052 --> 00:07:54,007 then shortly after she stopped speaking, I heard another voice. 131 00:07:54,091 --> 00:07:57,444 I could not make any words out specifically, 132 00:07:57,528 --> 00:08:00,981 I could just tell that there was a conversation going on. 133 00:08:01,065 --> 00:08:03,784 I literally got this cold chill, 134 00:08:03,868 --> 00:08:07,554 and every hair on my body stood straight up. 135 00:08:07,638 --> 00:08:10,157 What are you mainly hoping that we're able to accomplish here? 136 00:08:10,241 --> 00:08:12,125 We were closed for a while for tours, 137 00:08:12,209 --> 00:08:15,095 and we were doing some restoration work. 138 00:08:15,179 --> 00:08:19,132 We have had more things happening in the recent months. 139 00:08:19,216 --> 00:08:22,235 The activity's picked up mainly since you were doing the renovations? 140 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,938 Yes, there is a lot of reports from our guides and staff, 141 00:08:25,022 --> 00:08:28,342 and I think that bringing you guys out here 142 00:08:28,426 --> 00:08:31,278 is really going to put our staff at ease, we would like to find answers. 143 00:08:31,362 --> 00:08:33,380 Thank you so much for taking the time. 144 00:08:33,464 --> 00:08:34,982 Thank you, thank you for taking so much time to investigate. 145 00:08:35,066 --> 00:08:36,550 Of course. 146 00:08:36,634 --> 00:08:38,118 - Let's start setting up, and we'll do it carefully. - Okay. 147 00:08:38,202 --> 00:08:41,321 The activity seems to be outdoors and indoors, 148 00:08:41,405 --> 00:08:44,725 so we're going to focus the investigation on the whole building. 149 00:08:44,809 --> 00:08:47,127 We're also going to look into this castle light. 150 00:08:47,211 --> 00:08:48,895 With that, we've got our good friend Ben Hansen 151 00:08:48,979 --> 00:08:50,330 coming out to join us on the investigation, 152 00:08:50,414 --> 00:08:55,035 and Ben really specializes in UFOs, strange light phenomenon, 153 00:08:55,119 --> 00:08:58,271 so, we're hoping that maybe we can find some sort of an explanation for it, 154 00:08:58,355 --> 00:09:00,807 and just try to answer some of these questions 155 00:09:00,891 --> 00:09:03,625 for Jen and any of these other people of Bacon's Castle. 156 00:09:08,766 --> 00:09:10,550 - Good to see you man. - Yeah, it's been a long time. 157 00:09:10,634 --> 00:09:13,420 - Ben, good to see you! - Good to see you. 158 00:09:13,504 --> 00:09:14,788 - You too, you too. - Wow. 159 00:09:14,872 --> 00:09:17,491 [Narrator] Ben Hansen is not only a UFO expert, 160 00:09:17,575 --> 00:09:21,595 but a former FBI agent with years of investigating under his belt, 161 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,964 which is why we're bringing him in. 162 00:09:24,048 --> 00:09:25,699 I'm here to help in any way that you guys want, 163 00:09:25,783 --> 00:09:28,435 I did bring some military night-vision stuff 164 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:31,405 that would be really good to kind of survey the outside. 165 00:09:31,489 --> 00:09:32,439 - Yeah, sure. - No, I love the idea. 166 00:09:32,523 --> 00:09:33,907 What's the client telling you? 167 00:09:33,991 --> 00:09:36,143 Well, she was telling us about all types of activity 168 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:38,845 that are going on throughout the entire property, but that castle light, 169 00:09:38,929 --> 00:09:41,481 they've been talking about for three centuries now. 170 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:44,451 - Are you serious? - Yeah, so it would be good to get your take on it. 171 00:09:44,535 --> 00:09:47,954 This particular location is a swamp, right? 172 00:09:48,038 --> 00:09:50,424 So the idea of swamp gas interested me, 173 00:09:50,508 --> 00:09:54,361 and what swamp gas is, is that organic material 174 00:09:54,445 --> 00:09:56,463 that's breaking down that turns into methane. 175 00:09:56,547 --> 00:09:58,465 [Ben] So it bubbles up under the water, 176 00:09:58,549 --> 00:10:00,534 but if you can trap it, you can light it on fire. 177 00:10:00,618 --> 00:10:03,303 -Wow. Right, I mean, -take a look at this. 178 00:10:03,387 --> 00:10:06,540 [Man on video] Three, two, one... 179 00:10:06,624 --> 00:10:07,474 - [Jason] Whoa! - [Shari] Oh, my God. 180 00:10:07,558 --> 00:10:10,677 - [All laughing] - Oh jeez, whoa. 181 00:10:10,761 --> 00:10:13,280 So you can ignite swamp gas, but it seems like it would 182 00:10:13,364 --> 00:10:15,082 combust and then disappear pretty quickly. 183 00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:16,983 - It does, it does. - Yeah. 184 00:10:17,067 --> 00:10:20,020 Well this thing is flying through a field, and so far I mean, it moving, 185 00:10:20,104 --> 00:10:22,722 like ball lightning or something similar to that. 186 00:10:22,806 --> 00:10:26,259 So ball lightning doesn't just happen on a clear day, 187 00:10:26,343 --> 00:10:27,961 you've got to have storm activity, 188 00:10:28,045 --> 00:10:29,896 - it doesn't sound like it's that... - Okay, yeah. 189 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:32,032 Just because it's not doing what you guys are talking about. 190 00:10:32,116 --> 00:10:34,601 I mean anything we can check off the list will be good for us. 191 00:10:34,685 --> 00:10:36,403 [Jason] Okay, so how are we doing cameras? 192 00:10:36,487 --> 00:10:39,439 [Dave] We're ready, just so we, you know, are covered. 193 00:10:39,523 --> 00:10:43,510 We got coverage in all the areas where activity's been reported. 194 00:10:43,594 --> 00:10:47,629 - [Jason] Yup. - [Dave] Cameras are set up inside and on the grounds. 195 00:10:49,066 --> 00:10:53,253 [Jason] All right Shari, you start with Ben and Tango in the chamber room, 196 00:10:53,337 --> 00:10:57,491 - and Steve and I will start on the first floor parlor. - Yeah, let's get this started. 197 00:10:57,575 --> 00:10:59,226 All right, I'm excited. 198 00:10:59,310 --> 00:11:00,576 Let's go, lights out. 199 00:11:03,347 --> 00:11:04,646 [light switch clicking] 200 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:10,752 [Steve] Jay and Steve... 201 00:11:11,889 --> 00:11:13,889 Heading into Bacon's Castle. 202 00:11:16,594 --> 00:11:18,760 [Clattering] 203 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,286 This is where a lot of recent activity has happened, 204 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:28,588 over there, one of the historians here, 205 00:11:28,672 --> 00:11:32,459 she heard a voice that really, really scared her quite a bit. 206 00:11:32,543 --> 00:11:36,396 It was a female voice, and it was 207 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,947 a bit of a back and forth, like a bit of a conversation. 208 00:11:41,452 --> 00:11:44,586 Is there anybody who lived in this house here? 209 00:11:46,824 --> 00:11:49,591 [Jason] Are any of the Hankins family with us? 210 00:11:52,563 --> 00:11:53,995 Steve, there's... 211 00:11:55,299 --> 00:11:59,352 That was clear on this, there was just like this, "boom, boom." 212 00:11:59,436 --> 00:12:01,703 Are you trying to come towards us? 213 00:12:03,407 --> 00:12:05,458 - [Thudding] - [both] Oh. 214 00:12:05,542 --> 00:12:06,960 - There it is, did you hear it that time? - I sure did. 215 00:12:07,044 --> 00:12:08,295 It's like a boot on wood. 216 00:12:08,379 --> 00:12:10,612 - It does sound like. - It just did it again. 217 00:12:13,717 --> 00:12:17,519 If you're coming near us, please keep on coming. 218 00:12:21,859 --> 00:12:23,659 - Gentlemen. - Thank you. 219 00:12:25,629 --> 00:12:30,098 [Dave] All right, so this is Dave, Shari and Ben entering the chamber. 220 00:12:33,337 --> 00:12:35,288 - [Ben] Now is this where the chairs moved? - [Dave] Yes. 221 00:12:35,372 --> 00:12:37,906 [Ben] Let me take a seat just for a second. 222 00:12:39,209 --> 00:12:41,628 [Dave] Elizabeth Bray Allen, you lived on this property 223 00:12:41,712 --> 00:12:45,814 for over 60 years, are you here with us? 224 00:12:53,057 --> 00:12:54,523 [Ben] Are you in the other room? 225 00:12:55,592 --> 00:12:57,659 [Clicking] 226 00:13:00,331 --> 00:13:01,971 [Dave] It sounds like somebody's walking. 227 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,900 Are you walking this way? 228 00:13:07,671 --> 00:13:09,805 [Clicking continues] 229 00:13:11,075 --> 00:13:12,741 Oh, that was in the hall. 230 00:13:17,514 --> 00:13:21,717 - [Shari] Ooh [bleep] The front door is open. - It is? 231 00:13:22,486 --> 00:13:24,686 [Shari] Oh, my God, come check this out. 232 00:13:30,227 --> 00:13:32,961 [Shari] Ooh [bleep] The front door is open. 233 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:36,616 - Did anybody walk in the door? - [Dave] No. 234 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:38,460 [Shari] Right, and nobody went out the door. 235 00:13:39,103 --> 00:13:41,655 I'll go open the door from the outside. 236 00:13:41,739 --> 00:13:44,724 [Door clicking] - Could that have been the clicking? 237 00:13:44,808 --> 00:13:46,826 - It sounded... - Yeah. 238 00:13:46,910 --> 00:13:50,964 - Wait. - Yeah, I mean that takes a lot. 239 00:13:51,048 --> 00:13:55,035 - But that is the sound. - It was, like something was trying to open it to get in. 240 00:13:55,119 --> 00:13:57,237 - Right, that sounds like it. - Yeah. 241 00:13:57,321 --> 00:14:00,173 - If it was just not latched properly... - [Shari] Right. 242 00:14:00,257 --> 00:14:03,076 Wouldn't the air pressure of the wind have blown it open? 243 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,893 [Shari] It's a heavy door, so no. 244 00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,763 Well, we're gonna have to put a camera on it. 245 00:14:16,173 --> 00:14:17,657 - [Jason] Hey hey. - [Dave] Hey guys. 246 00:14:17,741 --> 00:14:19,392 - That was a heck of a run. - [Dave] Yeah. 247 00:14:19,476 --> 00:14:23,129 In the beginning, we were hearing a clicking noise or snapping noise, 248 00:14:23,213 --> 00:14:27,067 and finally, this front door opened, right, 249 00:14:27,151 --> 00:14:28,301 when you latch it, when you close it, 250 00:14:28,385 --> 00:14:30,570 that turning was the sound we were hearing. 251 00:14:30,654 --> 00:14:33,840 - Oh! - Almost as if something was like, attempting to open it. 252 00:14:33,924 --> 00:14:35,408 - Yeah. - And there's no wind tonight. 253 00:14:35,492 --> 00:14:36,542 - So yeah. - Right. 254 00:14:36,626 --> 00:14:39,412 I figured tomorrow, we can get a historian out here 255 00:14:39,496 --> 00:14:42,515 - to at least tell us about the property. - Absolutely. 256 00:14:42,599 --> 00:14:45,185 I'd love to be able to get in touch with an expert, 257 00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:47,253 on like, African American history, 258 00:14:47,337 --> 00:14:51,224 that might be able to shed some light on the enslaved people that were here. 259 00:14:51,308 --> 00:14:52,926 Yeah actually, that's a good call. 260 00:14:53,010 --> 00:14:55,228 You know this light outside that we haven't really explored yet, 261 00:14:55,312 --> 00:14:58,898 I think I'm going to look into what other sightings of UFOs 262 00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:02,535 - might be going on outside to see if it's correlated. - All right. 263 00:15:02,619 --> 00:15:04,604 All right, I think we'll get cranking early on this stuff tomorrow. 264 00:15:04,688 --> 00:15:06,239 - Sounds great. - All right, let's do this. 265 00:15:06,323 --> 00:15:07,689 - Good job, guys. - You too. 266 00:15:13,497 --> 00:15:17,150 [Ben] Fireball, fireball-like objects from the sky. 267 00:15:17,234 --> 00:15:20,487 This is Newport news, it's really close. 268 00:15:20,571 --> 00:15:23,590 [Narrator] While Ben researches recent aerial phenomenon 269 00:15:23,674 --> 00:15:25,674 that could explain the castle light... 270 00:15:26,276 --> 00:15:27,527 - Hi. - Hello. 271 00:15:27,611 --> 00:15:30,130 [Narrator] The TAPS team is meeting with experts 272 00:15:30,214 --> 00:15:32,614 to learn more about Bacon's Castle's history. 273 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:35,402 This is an offering to the ancestors, 274 00:15:35,486 --> 00:15:36,836 I can't come into their sacred space, 275 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,939 without first giving them an offering and asking permission to be here. 276 00:15:40,023 --> 00:15:44,277 Wow, so who were the first enslaved people in this area? 277 00:15:44,361 --> 00:15:47,781 [Yemima] They went to Africa and they kidnapped, 278 00:15:47,865 --> 00:15:52,318 healers, and doctors, and teachers, and enslaved them. 279 00:15:52,402 --> 00:15:53,586 That's awful. 280 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:58,491 You worked seven days a week, 16, 17, 18 hours a day, 281 00:15:58,575 --> 00:16:03,363 they were the heartbeat of the plantation. 282 00:16:03,447 --> 00:16:07,233 The enslaved worked in the big house, 283 00:16:07,317 --> 00:16:10,570 they were under scrutiny all the time, 284 00:16:10,654 --> 00:16:12,972 they had no time for themselves, 285 00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:17,277 and especially the women sacrificed so much, 286 00:16:17,361 --> 00:16:21,047 the women were expected to have child after child after child, 287 00:16:21,131 --> 00:16:23,383 so that they could increase the free labor. 288 00:16:23,467 --> 00:16:26,119 A lot of lives were lost on this property, 289 00:16:26,203 --> 00:16:30,672 a lot heartache, a lot of pain, a lot of torture. 290 00:16:34,444 --> 00:16:37,997 [Dave] So we know about the Allen and Hankins families who owned this property, 291 00:16:38,081 --> 00:16:41,367 can you tell us more about the enslaved people who lived here? 292 00:16:41,451 --> 00:16:48,208 [Lea] In 1673, there's a document and seven men who are identified as black. 293 00:16:48,292 --> 00:16:51,444 - To me, it is a sign that they were enslaved here. - Okay. 294 00:16:51,528 --> 00:16:53,313 Arthur Allen the Second, was actually 295 00:16:53,397 --> 00:16:55,882 - the first person to enslave people here. - Heartbreaking. 296 00:16:55,966 --> 00:16:58,918 One particular mother and daughter pair that we know, 297 00:16:59,002 --> 00:17:03,022 Hannah shows up in 1711, in the state inventory of Arthur Allen the Second's. 298 00:17:03,106 --> 00:17:06,960 The next time that we have an estate inventory, is 1727, 299 00:17:07,044 --> 00:17:10,396 and at that point, Hannah's had a child, and her name is Fanny, 300 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,033 and it's possible that they resided somewhere like the garret, 301 00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:17,904 depending on what role they were filling in the household itself. 302 00:17:17,988 --> 00:17:22,141 [Narrator] Arthur Allen the Second also employed a caretaker named John Finley, 303 00:17:22,225 --> 00:17:24,410 to oversee the enslaved people and grounds. 304 00:17:24,494 --> 00:17:27,280 He lived in the caretakers cottage. 305 00:17:27,364 --> 00:17:30,216 I thinks it's critical that we experience the space with 306 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:34,287 the deepest respect towards the trauma that occurred here. 307 00:17:34,371 --> 00:17:36,256 - Well than you so much for your time. - Of course, yeah. 308 00:17:36,340 --> 00:17:38,358 - Really appreciate that. - Yeah, nice to talk to you guys. 309 00:17:38,442 --> 00:17:39,722 This was wonderful, so thank you. 310 00:17:41,244 --> 00:17:43,029 It seems like there's a lot of layers of history here 311 00:17:43,113 --> 00:17:45,431 - that could retain a lot of energy. - Yeah. 312 00:17:45,515 --> 00:17:48,134 [Jason] What did your research uncover about the castle light? 313 00:17:48,218 --> 00:17:51,170 We do have um, a dozen or more reports, 314 00:17:51,254 --> 00:17:52,505 just within the last few years, 315 00:17:52,589 --> 00:17:55,174 a lot of the descriptions are spheres, 316 00:17:55,258 --> 00:17:57,143 fireballs, really bright lights, 317 00:17:57,227 --> 00:17:59,913 almost always though there's no sound to them, 318 00:17:59,997 --> 00:18:04,017 and at this point, I'm not quite sure if it is related to UFOs, 319 00:18:04,101 --> 00:18:07,053 what I'd like to do is focus a little bit on the outside tonight, 320 00:18:07,137 --> 00:18:10,290 and break out the specialty cameras I have with night-vision. 321 00:18:10,374 --> 00:18:12,959 Yeah, why don't you do that, Steve and I will head in the building, 322 00:18:13,043 --> 00:18:17,397 and you guys can actually check out the property, and you can take outside. 323 00:18:17,481 --> 00:18:19,332 - All right. - Awesome. 324 00:18:19,416 --> 00:18:21,968 Yeah, and to make life a little easier, here's Brad, man. 325 00:18:22,052 --> 00:18:25,071 - Hey, how is everybody? - How's it going Brad? 326 00:18:25,155 --> 00:18:27,507 [Narrator] Brad is a member of a local TAPS crew, 327 00:18:27,591 --> 00:18:29,342 and we wanted him on the investigation, 328 00:18:29,426 --> 00:18:32,145 as he's had numerous experiences here. 329 00:18:32,229 --> 00:18:34,380 Visually, we had a door, the doorknob turned, 330 00:18:34,464 --> 00:18:35,949 it popped, it swung right open. 331 00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:37,784 - Oh wow, man. - That's what happened to us. 332 00:18:37,868 --> 00:18:40,453 - It was crazy. - Awesome, well I'm happy to have you on board. 333 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:43,289 - Yeah, thanks for joining us. - Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, thank you. 334 00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:44,906 - Let's get cranking. - All right. 335 00:18:51,748 --> 00:18:54,916 Jay and Steve, headed towards the cellar kitchen. 336 00:18:56,286 --> 00:18:59,172 That's the basement area, where they feel 337 00:18:59,256 --> 00:19:01,990 an ominous presence, and have seen an apparition. 338 00:19:10,701 --> 00:19:12,867 - [Soft voice on audio] - Oh. 339 00:19:14,438 --> 00:19:16,671 There was a voice, it was like a... 340 00:19:17,474 --> 00:19:21,509 Yeah honestly I'd have to say it sounded younger though, but... 341 00:19:24,381 --> 00:19:28,817 [Steve] It's wild to know that this floor was laid here in the... 342 00:19:29,386 --> 00:19:32,605 - 1600s, my God. - [Jason] It's amazing. 343 00:19:32,689 --> 00:19:35,790 So I want to know what the voice said when I opened that door. 344 00:19:37,394 --> 00:19:39,594 [Steve] Let's review the recording and take a listen. 345 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:47,502 [Woman's voice speaking softly] - Oh, mm. 346 00:19:50,373 --> 00:19:52,091 We know this house would have seen some 347 00:19:52,175 --> 00:19:56,578 individuals that were here against their will. 348 00:19:58,749 --> 00:20:03,585 So is there anybody here who's like to talk with us, maybe Hannah or Fanny? 349 00:20:05,255 --> 00:20:06,255 Are you here? 350 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:15,214 [Ben] All right Brad, so isn't this light 351 00:20:15,298 --> 00:20:19,352 mostly seen hovering around the outside and inside? 352 00:20:19,436 --> 00:20:23,189 We've actually seen it both, we've seen it on the outside and the inside. 353 00:20:23,273 --> 00:20:27,326 [Ben] Okay, these scopes amplify light by like 80,000 times. 354 00:20:27,410 --> 00:20:29,170 - [Brad] Wow. - [Ben] So here's your scope. 355 00:20:29,412 --> 00:20:30,412 Okay. 356 00:20:31,615 --> 00:20:32,781 Yeah. 357 00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:34,500 [Brad] Oh wow. 358 00:20:34,584 --> 00:20:35,802 - And then... - [Ben] You gotta think like, 359 00:20:35,886 --> 00:20:38,604 how long this has been reported right, for several hundred years. 360 00:20:38,688 --> 00:20:42,690 [Brad] I mean, they've seen it in so many different places on the property. 361 00:20:44,461 --> 00:20:47,280 What I think I'm going to do is I'm gonna break out um, 362 00:20:47,364 --> 00:20:49,582 - a thermal camera here. - Okay. 363 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,567 [Ben] Pick up on that other spectrum that we can't see. 364 00:21:07,651 --> 00:21:09,884 - [Brad] No. - [Ben] Did you see that? 365 00:21:14,324 --> 00:21:16,609 [Ben] Do we have anybody in the attic? 366 00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:18,144 - [Brad] You saw that? - [Ben] Yeah, I saw that. 367 00:21:18,228 --> 00:21:20,413 It looked like a flicker or a flash. 368 00:21:20,497 --> 00:21:23,983 I couldn't tell if it was reflecting up the stairwell to the top. 369 00:21:24,067 --> 00:21:25,218 Now the stairwell is in the back, 370 00:21:25,302 --> 00:21:28,770 - so that was something else up there. - Yeah. 371 00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:39,547 [Dave] Let's go investigate the Civil War soldier. 372 00:21:42,719 --> 00:21:44,337 - [Shari] Did you hear that? - [Dave] No. 373 00:21:44,421 --> 00:21:45,486 There's noise over here. 374 00:21:45,588 --> 00:21:46,588 [Flashlight clicking] 375 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:49,542 What did it sound like? Like a chh-chh... 376 00:21:49,626 --> 00:21:51,210 - Oh, okay. - Like that type of thing, 377 00:21:51,294 --> 00:21:53,079 - Cocking a gun type of thing? - Yeah. 378 00:21:53,163 --> 00:21:54,313 [Dave] Well I mean, that's where they saw 379 00:21:54,397 --> 00:21:56,798 the Civil War soldier, in this direction. 380 00:21:59,135 --> 00:22:03,638 Is there a Civil War soldier, here with us? 381 00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:09,510 [Shari] People see you walking up and down this path. 382 00:22:12,115 --> 00:22:13,499 - [Dave] Look, there he is. - Yeah? 383 00:22:13,583 --> 00:22:17,719 James Dewitt Hankins, buried right next to his father John Henry. 384 00:22:19,589 --> 00:22:23,658 James Dewitt Hankins, are you fighting for the South? 385 00:22:25,562 --> 00:22:27,413 You know what, let's check in with Ben and Brad 386 00:22:27,497 --> 00:22:29,964 and see if they got any progress with that castle light. 387 00:22:37,607 --> 00:22:40,541 [Steve] This is Jay and Steve, entering the chamber room. 388 00:22:41,344 --> 00:22:44,030 [Jason] This is where the chair turned around. 389 00:22:44,114 --> 00:22:49,335 [Steve] Ooh, right, you know what I might do actually, with these sensors? 390 00:22:49,419 --> 00:22:52,687 - [Jason] Oh, that's actually not a bad idea at all. - [Steve] Yeah. 391 00:22:55,458 --> 00:22:58,526 So if there's anybody in this home... 392 00:22:59,362 --> 00:23:01,529 Any enslaved individuals... 393 00:23:03,199 --> 00:23:04,999 We'd really like to talk with you. 394 00:23:06,569 --> 00:23:09,904 Were you enslaved and abused by Arthur Allen the Second? 395 00:23:14,778 --> 00:23:16,844 Do you know Henry Hankins? 396 00:23:18,815 --> 00:23:20,682 - [Steve] Hmm. - What? 397 00:23:20,817 --> 00:23:22,817 We've got something... 398 00:23:24,587 --> 00:23:26,020 Showing up quite hot... 399 00:23:27,457 --> 00:23:29,141 On that chair. 400 00:23:29,225 --> 00:23:31,926 Look at this, Jay, you can see it. 401 00:23:33,096 --> 00:23:37,498 - Oh yeah, giving off a heat signature. - [Steve] It's gone now. 402 00:23:39,436 --> 00:23:42,904 Was that, was there a ball of bright flash out the window there? 403 00:23:43,606 --> 00:23:44,939 Somebody behind us? 404 00:23:45,875 --> 00:23:49,528 - Jay to Dave. - Go for Dave. 405 00:23:49,612 --> 00:23:53,881 Hey, you guys didn't just flash a light on the back of the house, did you? 406 00:23:54,384 --> 00:23:55,601 No, my flashlight was off. 407 00:23:55,685 --> 00:23:57,470 Just so you know, Ben and Brad, 408 00:23:57,554 --> 00:24:00,773 they saw a flash of light in the top floor. 409 00:24:00,857 --> 00:24:04,243 Dave, ask Brad and Ben to investigate what they saw, 410 00:24:04,327 --> 00:24:07,807 we'll stay on the first floor, so we don't contaminate each other, and they can head up. 411 00:24:08,231 --> 00:24:09,530 [Dave] Copy that. 412 00:24:20,243 --> 00:24:22,510 We saw it over here in this hallway. 413 00:24:23,646 --> 00:24:26,047 - Right here? - Yeah, it was that window right there. 414 00:24:31,021 --> 00:24:32,086 Hello? 415 00:24:36,426 --> 00:24:38,659 Did you flash the light to make us come up here? 416 00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:41,996 We're here. 417 00:24:46,336 --> 00:24:48,903 - No source of light in that room, is there? - [Brad] Nope. 418 00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:51,839 It's, the power is off to this lamp. 419 00:24:57,213 --> 00:25:01,133 [Dave] So, this is where they've seen the apparition of the lady in white, 420 00:25:01,217 --> 00:25:03,718 that people believe is Elizabeth Bray Allen. 421 00:25:04,654 --> 00:25:07,688 - [Shari] Inside and out, they see her, yeah. - Exactly. 422 00:25:11,194 --> 00:25:14,896 Elizabeth Bray Allen. 423 00:25:15,732 --> 00:25:17,765 [Dave] We know how much you loved your house... 424 00:25:18,568 --> 00:25:20,768 And that you... What's that? 425 00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:26,826 - [Shari] Thought I heard something. - [Dave] Okay. 426 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:31,430 - How long ago? - Just like, 15 seconds ago. 427 00:25:31,514 --> 00:25:37,718 - [Dave] Okay. - [Shari] So Elizabeth, are you still walking the grounds? 428 00:25:41,024 --> 00:25:42,308 [Ben] I don't think it came from in here, 429 00:25:42,392 --> 00:25:45,478 you can see how far back the stairwell is. 430 00:25:45,562 --> 00:25:49,115 - Yup. - Ooh, there's another flash. 431 00:25:49,199 --> 00:25:50,416 [Brad] Where is that flash coming from? 432 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,667 - Is it coming from in here? - [Ben] Yeah. 433 00:25:59,442 --> 00:26:01,609 - [Brad] Definitely came from in here, right? - Yeah. 434 00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:03,711 [Ben] What happened? 435 00:26:05,348 --> 00:26:06,614 [Ben] What? 436 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,517 [Ben] Right in your ear? 437 00:26:10,854 --> 00:26:13,572 You just experienced what everybody experiences in this hallway. 438 00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:15,490 [Kenny] Shut the [bleep] up. 439 00:26:18,361 --> 00:26:19,378 [Kenny] I heard, "ahhh." 440 00:26:19,462 --> 00:26:22,048 - It was right here. - [Ben] Right in your ear? 441 00:26:22,132 --> 00:26:25,533 You just experienced what everybody experiences in this hallway. 442 00:26:28,805 --> 00:26:31,957 I heard what seemed like a breath from behind me. 443 00:26:32,041 --> 00:26:34,126 You can tell when something's close to you. 444 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,228 And in the moment, I was definitely like, 445 00:26:36,312 --> 00:26:38,464 a little shocked like, "did that happen?" 446 00:26:38,548 --> 00:26:39,847 That really freaks me out. 447 00:26:41,751 --> 00:26:43,484 You feel that temperature change? 448 00:26:44,287 --> 00:26:45,287 Do you feel that? 449 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:49,308 - [Brad] Me too. - This part of me is 110... 450 00:26:49,392 --> 00:26:51,610 - Yup. - And this part of me is about 70. 451 00:26:51,694 --> 00:26:53,779 [Brad] It's coming from this way now. 452 00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:55,863 - [Ben] Really? - [Kenny] Yeah, from here. 453 00:26:59,335 --> 00:27:00,735 Okay, I just got a whisper. 454 00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:06,092 Yeah, it was down here. 455 00:27:06,176 --> 00:27:07,226 - [Ben] There's no one there? - [Brad] No. 456 00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:08,961 - Did you hear a whisper? - It was like a... 457 00:27:09,045 --> 00:27:12,465 It was like a higher pitch, almost like a female going pshh-wshh. 458 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:14,967 - I just feel like there's something... - There might be. 459 00:27:15,051 --> 00:27:17,685 Trying to get our attention, but... 460 00:27:18,521 --> 00:27:21,522 Yeah, it was curious and then it retreated. 461 00:27:27,697 --> 00:27:29,548 [Steve] Did you guys end up finding anything out 462 00:27:29,632 --> 00:27:31,317 about that light that you saw upstairs? 463 00:27:31,401 --> 00:27:35,020 Well, I wouldn't say we found a light, 464 00:27:35,104 --> 00:27:39,525 but as we were up there, all of a sudden our camera operator just jumps back, 465 00:27:39,609 --> 00:27:43,945 he felt like somebody sighed right into his ear. 466 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,398 Twice we got what sounded like 467 00:27:46,482 --> 00:27:48,367 - quick little voices, "boom, boom." - Yeah. 468 00:27:48,451 --> 00:27:50,402 You know, we tried to investigate the garden, 469 00:27:50,486 --> 00:27:52,371 unfortunately we did not get any interaction. 470 00:27:52,455 --> 00:27:53,906 We still have more time. 471 00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:56,108 So in regards to this Bacon's Castle light, 472 00:27:56,192 --> 00:27:59,311 I think it would help if you talked to somebody else as well, 473 00:27:59,395 --> 00:28:01,213 so I set up a meeting for you guys tomorrow 474 00:28:01,297 --> 00:28:02,615 with a local astronomer at the planetarium. 475 00:28:02,699 --> 00:28:05,151 - Ooh that's awesome, thank you. - Yeah. 476 00:28:05,235 --> 00:28:06,385 So you're pretty much out of here, huh? 477 00:28:06,469 --> 00:28:09,188 Yeah, I would love to stay and do more, believe me, 478 00:28:09,272 --> 00:28:11,590 but I do have some other stuff I got to get to. 479 00:28:11,674 --> 00:28:13,359 But I wish you guys the best of luck, and let me know how it goes. 480 00:28:13,443 --> 00:28:15,694 - Thank you Ben. - Have a good one, I'll give you a shout. 481 00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:17,062 All right thanks man, it was good to see you buddy. 482 00:28:17,146 --> 00:28:18,846 - Thank you so much. - You're welcome man. 483 00:28:22,151 --> 00:28:24,819 [Narrator] While Shari and I review last night's evidence, 484 00:28:26,256 --> 00:28:29,108 Steve and Dave head to Old Dominion University... 485 00:28:29,192 --> 00:28:30,609 - This is nice. - This is crazy looking, man. 486 00:28:30,693 --> 00:28:32,077 [Narrator] To meet with Justin Mason... 487 00:28:32,161 --> 00:28:32,911 - Justin? - Yes, hi. 488 00:28:32,995 --> 00:28:34,380 - Steve? - How's it going, Steve. 489 00:28:34,464 --> 00:28:36,982 [Narrator] The director of their state of the art planetarium. 490 00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:40,252 So as you know, we're nearby at a place called Bacon's Castle right, 491 00:28:40,336 --> 00:28:42,555 and there's been some phenomena there 492 00:28:42,639 --> 00:28:45,858 that they have called Bacon's Castle light. 493 00:28:45,942 --> 00:28:48,527 Some people call it a fireball, 494 00:28:48,611 --> 00:28:53,566 and it travels through the air and makes its way up to a tower on the property. 495 00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:56,435 They've been seeing this for 350 years, 496 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:57,402 this has been going on a while. 497 00:28:57,486 --> 00:28:59,171 Our plan, and I know you came here to see 498 00:28:59,255 --> 00:29:01,407 if can have astronomical explanations for it, 499 00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:03,275 so if you want, we can step in the planetarium, 500 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:04,843 and I'd be glad to show you a few ideas. 501 00:29:04,927 --> 00:29:05,844 - Absolutely. - Well come on in. 502 00:29:05,928 --> 00:29:07,528 Wow, awesome. 503 00:29:10,466 --> 00:29:14,286 [Justin] So back to Bacon's Castle and what the light could potentially be, 504 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:17,038 - I programmed in a meteor shower for us. - Oh, wow. 505 00:29:19,042 --> 00:29:20,492 - Oh! - Oh, yup. 506 00:29:20,576 --> 00:29:22,043 You'll see them occasionally, 507 00:29:22,545 --> 00:29:24,597 - but you see how quick they are. - Yeah. 508 00:29:24,681 --> 00:29:26,932 The reason you probably couldn't make this stand up 509 00:29:27,016 --> 00:29:29,401 to the test of, "could this be the source of the light?" 510 00:29:29,485 --> 00:29:33,939 Is they're up in the sky, and they only last half a second, they're so quick. 511 00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:38,310 Let's do one more thing, I want to show off what a fireball is in astronomy. 512 00:29:38,394 --> 00:29:40,512 - Okay. - I'm going to put up something called a bolide. 513 00:29:40,596 --> 00:29:42,830 A bolide is a fireball. 514 00:29:43,299 --> 00:29:45,784 - Ooh. - Wow! 515 00:29:45,868 --> 00:29:48,153 [Justin] The fireball is much bigger and last longer, 516 00:29:48,237 --> 00:29:50,456 but again, it's still going to be up in the sky, 517 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:51,957 and it still happens very quickly, 518 00:29:52,041 --> 00:29:53,459 it doesn't move around on the ground. 519 00:29:53,543 --> 00:29:56,128 So maybe that could account for one or two, 520 00:29:56,212 --> 00:29:58,297 you know, stories, but not all of them. 521 00:29:58,381 --> 00:30:00,099 - Certainly you're right, yeah. - Right. 522 00:30:00,183 --> 00:30:02,635 - I've learned so much. - Me too, thank you. 523 00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:04,937 - Really, really appreciate it. - Glad to help any time again. 524 00:30:05,021 --> 00:30:06,538 Yeah, this is great information. 525 00:30:06,622 --> 00:30:10,376 [Steve] This is earthbound phenomenon, nothing aerial. 526 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:11,900 [Dave] Right, so we've ruled it out. 527 00:30:12,395 --> 00:30:13,875 [Narrator] Despite our best efforts, 528 00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:18,550 we still don't have any explanation for the castle light. 529 00:30:18,634 --> 00:30:22,955 Tonight, we'll continue to try to reach the Allen and Hankins family members, 530 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,973 as well as any enslaved people who lived on the property. 531 00:30:28,077 --> 00:30:29,962 All right, we're going to head to the cottage. 532 00:30:30,046 --> 00:30:33,132 [Jason] Dave and Steve, why don't you hit the second floor in the garret, 533 00:30:33,216 --> 00:30:35,334 - and Brad, can you man the monitors? - All right. 534 00:30:35,418 --> 00:30:36,568 - All right. - I'll see you guys in a few. 535 00:30:36,652 --> 00:30:37,785 See you guys. 536 00:30:49,532 --> 00:30:50,564 After you, Shar. 537 00:30:51,401 --> 00:30:52,717 Thank you. 538 00:30:52,801 --> 00:30:54,987 [Narrator] We wanted to investigate the caretakers cottage, 539 00:30:55,071 --> 00:30:58,524 as one of our crew members had an experience here earlier today. 540 00:30:58,608 --> 00:31:00,459 We set up our production office in the caretakers cottage, 541 00:31:00,543 --> 00:31:04,229 so we wouldn't contaminate the main castle. 542 00:31:04,313 --> 00:31:06,332 I was in there standing by the craft service table, 543 00:31:06,416 --> 00:31:08,949 and I heard some footsteps upstairs... 544 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,653 Like rapid steps. 545 00:31:13,122 --> 00:31:15,908 I've been on a couple of seasons of Ghost Hunters, 546 00:31:15,992 --> 00:31:19,345 but I've never had anything like this happen to me before in my life. 547 00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:22,281 [Jason] All right so, John Finley oversaw this property 548 00:31:22,365 --> 00:31:25,484 for Arthur Allen the Second in the 1600s. 549 00:31:25,568 --> 00:31:27,768 This is a footstep tracker. 550 00:31:29,572 --> 00:31:33,073 It'll help us identify if anything's moving. 551 00:31:34,277 --> 00:31:35,543 - Pretty good. - [Shari] Yeah. 552 00:31:38,414 --> 00:31:40,681 Is there a John Finley here? 553 00:31:44,654 --> 00:31:46,887 If there's anybody here, we'd like to talk with you. 554 00:31:48,758 --> 00:31:52,593 [Jason] By knocking, it will allow us to see your answers. 555 00:31:53,429 --> 00:31:56,597 So if you knock once like this for "yes..." 556 00:31:57,900 --> 00:31:59,500 And twice... 557 00:32:00,303 --> 00:32:02,321 For a "no." 558 00:32:02,405 --> 00:32:05,940 If you understand that, can you knock once for yes? 559 00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:09,344 It lit up there. 560 00:32:10,213 --> 00:32:13,013 Are you able to knock twice for a "no?" 561 00:32:15,418 --> 00:32:17,918 - Ooh that was twice. - [Shari] Oh, that was twice. 562 00:32:26,262 --> 00:32:29,063 [Jason] Are you able to knock twice for a "no?" 563 00:32:31,501 --> 00:32:33,634 - Ooh that was twice. - [Shari] Oh, that was twice. 564 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:36,355 [Jason] Okay. 565 00:32:36,439 --> 00:32:38,038 Did you used to live in this house? 566 00:32:38,541 --> 00:32:39,491 [Banging] 567 00:32:39,575 --> 00:32:41,193 - Yes. - [Jason] And that was a loud bang. 568 00:32:41,277 --> 00:32:42,561 [Shari] That was a yes. 569 00:32:42,645 --> 00:32:43,962 - [Jason] I heard that. - [Shari] Yeah. 570 00:32:44,046 --> 00:32:46,046 Is your name John? 571 00:32:47,984 --> 00:32:49,468 - [Shari] Yes. - And that was a thump. 572 00:32:49,552 --> 00:32:51,937 - [Shari] That was a strong one, yeah. - That was like a "boom." 573 00:32:52,021 --> 00:32:54,373 It's happening right when we ask questions. 574 00:32:54,457 --> 00:32:56,991 We've come up from Massachusetts. 575 00:32:59,228 --> 00:33:02,948 - [Shari] It did it twice. - We're northern, Yankees. 576 00:33:03,032 --> 00:33:05,599 Are you still willing to talk with us? 577 00:33:07,303 --> 00:33:10,938 - That was a no? - [Shari] That was like, an "absolutely no." 578 00:33:14,076 --> 00:33:15,643 All right, I'm going to leave. 579 00:33:19,515 --> 00:33:21,982 This is Dave and Steve, entering the upstairs bedroom. 580 00:33:26,255 --> 00:33:30,642 Oh, look at this old drawing. 581 00:33:30,726 --> 00:33:34,379 September 20th, 1880 something. 582 00:33:34,463 --> 00:33:36,315 [Dave] This is time travel. 583 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:38,317 Does that say anything, is that a name? 584 00:33:38,401 --> 00:33:39,867 [Soft moaning] 585 00:33:41,637 --> 00:33:43,355 - [Steve] They drew Hankins. - [Dave] Did you hear that? 586 00:33:43,439 --> 00:33:44,805 Humming? 587 00:33:45,808 --> 00:33:48,509 - [Thumping] - [whispers] There. 588 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:51,812 I heard that. 589 00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:56,650 [Static and humming] 590 00:33:57,386 --> 00:33:59,404 - I heard that. - [Dave] Did you say Hankins? 591 00:33:59,488 --> 00:34:02,990 - Yes. - Can you hear us talking about this? 592 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,529 - [Static and moaning] - Where is that coming from? 593 00:34:12,568 --> 00:34:14,419 - It sounds like sadness. - Like moaning. 594 00:34:14,503 --> 00:34:20,641 - Like someone behind a door or, a hidden... - [moaning] 595 00:34:23,479 --> 00:34:25,230 That's somebody moaning, like crying. 596 00:34:25,314 --> 00:34:26,665 - That's somebody moaning. - Somebody's moaning. 597 00:34:26,749 --> 00:34:29,568 [Unintelligible moaning] 598 00:34:29,652 --> 00:34:30,751 Where is that coming from? 599 00:34:35,658 --> 00:34:36,824 Hello? 600 00:34:37,893 --> 00:34:38,959 Are you okay? 601 00:34:41,063 --> 00:34:42,329 Can we help you? 602 00:34:44,066 --> 00:34:46,518 [Dave] That was straight up, like, despair. 603 00:34:46,602 --> 00:34:49,903 - It was like someone sobbing in a corner or something. - Sobbing. 604 00:34:51,607 --> 00:34:53,641 [Steve] If you can show us where you are... 605 00:34:55,044 --> 00:34:56,610 We'll come to you. 606 00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:02,916 Do you know James Hankins? 607 00:35:03,786 --> 00:35:05,919 Was he your enslaver? 608 00:35:07,156 --> 00:35:08,540 - It's gone. - It's gone. 609 00:35:08,624 --> 00:35:11,276 Did we just witness a residual sound... 610 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,860 Of crying? 611 00:35:13,663 --> 00:35:16,949 [Steve] I got these willy bumps everywhere. 612 00:35:17,033 --> 00:35:19,351 James Dewitt Hankins died right here, 613 00:35:19,435 --> 00:35:21,753 after he was injured in that duel. 614 00:35:21,837 --> 00:35:23,937 Maybe the sobbing is his mother. 615 00:35:26,509 --> 00:35:27,693 That was insane. 616 00:35:27,777 --> 00:35:30,678 [Static] 617 00:35:33,049 --> 00:35:34,915 - [Thumping] - That is... 618 00:35:36,285 --> 00:35:37,685 [Dave] Is that us? 619 00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:42,656 - [Garbled speaking] - That has to be us. 620 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,878 Steve for Jay. 621 00:35:46,962 --> 00:35:48,180 Go ahead Steve, it's Jay. 622 00:35:48,264 --> 00:35:53,385 I just wanted to make sure that you're not in the house. 623 00:35:53,469 --> 00:35:56,655 There is nobody in the house, it is only you and Dave, 624 00:35:56,739 --> 00:36:00,040 and I am in the TAPS van, closed. 625 00:36:01,043 --> 00:36:02,609 That was a straight up voice. 626 00:36:09,318 --> 00:36:10,502 That was a straight up voice. 627 00:36:10,586 --> 00:36:14,021 Jay, Dave and I just heard sobbing, 628 00:36:14,724 --> 00:36:16,942 for three minutes straight. 629 00:36:17,026 --> 00:36:18,510 For three minutes straight? 630 00:36:18,594 --> 00:36:20,245 Could you tell where the sobbing was coming from, Steve? 631 00:36:20,329 --> 00:36:24,983 It was coming from the walls, it was coming from all around us. 632 00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:28,353 [Steve] We're going to see if we can get it to happen again. 633 00:36:28,437 --> 00:36:33,225 [Dave] They say that they hear a lot of voices upstairs, in the garret. 634 00:36:33,309 --> 00:36:35,127 - Let's go up there next. - Yup. 635 00:36:35,211 --> 00:36:37,329 Dave and I want to check out the garret, 636 00:36:37,413 --> 00:36:40,432 an attic space where enslaved women and children lived. 637 00:36:40,516 --> 00:36:42,801 It's possible that the sobbing sound 638 00:36:42,885 --> 00:36:47,172 was coming from this area, instead of the bedroom below. 639 00:36:47,256 --> 00:36:49,957 [Dave] This is where an employee felt a presence whoosh by her. 640 00:36:56,565 --> 00:37:00,567 Hannah, are you here with your daughter, Fanny? 641 00:37:02,471 --> 00:37:04,189 We know you were both enslaved here, 642 00:37:04,273 --> 00:37:06,039 when this property was a plantation. 643 00:37:11,847 --> 00:37:14,982 Fanny, is that you we've heard sobbing here? 644 00:37:17,553 --> 00:37:20,072 The sobbing seems to have subsided. 645 00:37:20,156 --> 00:37:21,989 [Dave] Man, that was incredible. 646 00:37:23,425 --> 00:37:26,044 [Jason] Hey, it's been a great investigation, lets wrap. 647 00:37:26,128 --> 00:37:28,495 We have a lot of evidence to check out. 648 00:37:30,065 --> 00:37:33,185 One of the most interesting parts about the investigation, 649 00:37:33,269 --> 00:37:37,189 is we were able to connect some of the experiences and evidence 650 00:37:37,273 --> 00:37:40,425 to experiences that our clients were having. 651 00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:42,527 All of that made for a great investigation, 652 00:37:42,611 --> 00:37:46,847 and I'm excited to see what Jennifer thinks of what we have to bring her. 653 00:37:58,027 --> 00:37:59,593 - All right. - All right. 654 00:38:03,499 --> 00:38:06,318 - Hey Jen, thanks for coming over. - Yeah, absolutely. 655 00:38:06,402 --> 00:38:08,353 It was definitely an interesting investigation. 656 00:38:08,437 --> 00:38:10,255 We were able to gather a lot of evidence, 657 00:38:10,339 --> 00:38:14,159 we've had a lot of experiences which back up the claims that you all had, 658 00:38:14,243 --> 00:38:16,561 at one point, we were downstairs in the basement area, 659 00:38:16,645 --> 00:38:18,630 and there was a quick, female voice, 660 00:38:18,714 --> 00:38:22,082 - and, I'll get the headphones, here you go. - Okay, thank you. 661 00:38:26,455 --> 00:38:27,239 Whoa. 662 00:38:27,323 --> 00:38:28,273 So what does it sound like to you? 663 00:38:28,357 --> 00:38:30,624 - It really sounds like "creek." - Creek? 664 00:38:35,364 --> 00:38:40,485 Elizabeth Bray Allen's son died in a creek, just so you know. 665 00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:42,053 - Really? - Mm-hmm. 666 00:38:42,137 --> 00:38:43,837 - What? - He drowned. 667 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,959 Okay, so that might hold a lot more merit, wow. 668 00:38:48,043 --> 00:38:51,778 [Steve] So this voice could be Elizabeth Bray Allen's. 669 00:38:54,350 --> 00:38:58,236 There was also another intriguing situation in the caretakers cottage. 670 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,337 - Mm-hmm. - I headed over there with Shari, 671 00:38:59,421 --> 00:39:02,340 we were able to get direct responses, 672 00:39:02,424 --> 00:39:05,510 and we're asking if they live in this house, and then we also asked, 673 00:39:05,594 --> 00:39:07,479 "is your name John?" because there was John Finley, 674 00:39:07,563 --> 00:39:10,731 who was the overseer who stayed on the property. 675 00:39:12,034 --> 00:39:13,485 [Shari] Did you used to live in this house? 676 00:39:13,569 --> 00:39:15,554 - You see the one? - Uh-huh. 677 00:39:15,638 --> 00:39:18,723 For "yes," and you heard the bang, now watch. 678 00:39:18,807 --> 00:39:20,540 [Jason] Is your name John? 679 00:39:22,711 --> 00:39:26,198 So it shows direct communication, it shows intelligence. 680 00:39:26,282 --> 00:39:29,167 Tango and I, you know, we were investigating in this room, 681 00:39:29,251 --> 00:39:31,002 and we actually heard this sobbing. 682 00:39:31,086 --> 00:39:33,687 It was really intense, and quite emotional. 683 00:39:40,763 --> 00:39:43,414 - [Steve] There's - somebody moaning. - [Dave] Sound like crying. 684 00:39:43,498 --> 00:39:44,731 Were you able to hear it? 685 00:39:45,234 --> 00:39:48,086 - And it just goes, it just goes. - Well that sounded spooky. 686 00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:50,388 It was loud, and in this room with us. 687 00:39:50,472 --> 00:39:52,357 This could connect to your story about 688 00:39:52,441 --> 00:39:55,594 Elizabeth Bray Allen losing her son, 689 00:39:55,678 --> 00:39:59,780 or possibly Hannah and her daughter Fanny, who were enslaved here. 690 00:40:03,852 --> 00:40:06,304 What that crying or sobbing is, 691 00:40:06,388 --> 00:40:08,139 I'm not sure we could ever say who or what, 692 00:40:08,223 --> 00:40:11,109 but it's very, very emotional and sad, 693 00:40:11,193 --> 00:40:15,213 - but hopefully, those tortured people are now at peace. - Right. 694 00:40:15,297 --> 00:40:19,251 And there's a phenomenon here that been reported for a long, long time, 695 00:40:19,335 --> 00:40:20,986 - the Bacon's Castle light... - Right. 696 00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:23,188 - We did a lot to figure it out. - Right. 697 00:40:23,272 --> 00:40:26,024 Ben Hansen was with us using special night-vision cameras, 698 00:40:26,108 --> 00:40:28,360 trying to figure different things out, 699 00:40:28,444 --> 00:40:32,464 it's not planetary light, it's not interstellar light -From the stories. 700 00:40:32,548 --> 00:40:36,368 It appears that it moves with some sort of intelligence, it knows where it's going. 701 00:40:36,452 --> 00:40:39,104 It very well could be something paranormal. 702 00:40:39,188 --> 00:40:43,208 But paranormal is inherently kind of scary because you don't understand it, 703 00:40:43,292 --> 00:40:45,443 - but it doesn't have to be that way. - Right. 704 00:40:45,527 --> 00:40:48,847 And there definitely seems to be some intelligence going on, 705 00:40:48,931 --> 00:40:51,116 but also some residual type haunts. 706 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,320 Is it Elizabeth Bray Allen, Hannah or her daughter Fanny, we can't be sure. 707 00:40:55,404 --> 00:40:58,089 I think everybody here, it might startle them if they 708 00:40:58,173 --> 00:41:00,392 see somebody or hear something, but I don't think 709 00:41:00,476 --> 00:41:03,028 - there's really anything to be afraid of. - That's good news. 710 00:41:03,112 --> 00:41:07,614 I think there's just so much more to the story of Bacon's Castle that, 711 00:41:08,183 --> 00:41:10,302 - I think it still wants to be told. - Yeah, absolutely. 712 00:41:10,386 --> 00:41:14,372 Well thank you so much, and a lot of things are still remaining a mystery, 713 00:41:14,456 --> 00:41:19,511 - but I'm really glad that, you came out. - Well thanks for having us. 714 00:41:19,595 --> 00:41:21,980 [Jennifer] I always felt that there were things here, 715 00:41:22,064 --> 00:41:25,350 but having TAPS come and present all of this evidence 716 00:41:25,434 --> 00:41:27,385 that does put just another layer, 717 00:41:27,469 --> 00:41:29,988 to this kind of unknown story that we have. 718 00:41:30,072 --> 00:41:32,157 I'm really glad that the results are coming back 719 00:41:32,241 --> 00:41:34,574 that nobody does need to be scared. 720 00:41:36,378 --> 00:41:38,930 - So, I think that went well, man. - It actually really did. 721 00:41:39,014 --> 00:41:41,633 She seemed to enjoy what we were playing for her, 722 00:41:41,717 --> 00:41:45,170 perhaps because she's so invested in this property's history. 723 00:41:45,254 --> 00:41:46,504 Yeah, totally. 724 00:41:46,588 --> 00:41:47,806 You also know that it was crazy, 725 00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:50,275 on that audio, she heard "creek," 726 00:41:50,359 --> 00:41:54,446 and the fact that we didn't even know that she had lost her son... 727 00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:56,214 - In a creek. - I mean, oh my gosh. 728 00:41:56,298 --> 00:41:58,783 [Jason] Well I'm just happy the case went well, 729 00:41:58,873 --> 00:42:00,922 and Jen's happy, and you know what, 730 00:42:01,007 --> 00:42:02,765 - on to the next, brother. - Yeah man. 63494

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