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==SPREAD THE WORD==
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Living In
The Material World, Part 2
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** I look at the trouble
and hate that is raging **
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** While my guitar gently weeps **
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** As I'm sitting here
doing nothing but ageing **
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** Still my guitar gently weeps **
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** Gently weeps **
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** Still my guitar gently weeps... **
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I always felt really close
to the public and where I grew up
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and that's why, I suppose, I wrote
some songs that were like,
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"Hey, you can all experience this,"
you know?
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It is,
it's available for everyone.
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Ravi, really,
it was him who helped me
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to get back into being a pop singer.
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** Da **
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** Da-da-da-da-da **
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** Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da... **
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He was the one who said to me,
you know,
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try to find my background,
or some roots. What's my roots?
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I mean, the first thing that meant
something, really,
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that I could call a root
was riding down the road on my bike
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and hearing Heartbreak Hotel
coming out of somebody's house.
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So, "Right, it's Heartbreak Hotel."
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So from then,
I went from Los Angeles,
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where I was with Ravi with my sitar,
went to New York on my way home.
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That was the last time
I really played sitar.
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I checked in the hotel in New York.
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Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton
happened to be staying there.
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Then I thought, well, maybe
I'm better off to get back into being
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a guitar player, songwriter,
whatever I'm supposed to be.
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Because I'm never going to be a sitar
player, because I've seen
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1,000 sitar players in India who's
twice as better than I'll ever be.
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You want to hear the song
I wrote last night?
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Yeah. It's just a very short one.
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** ..doesn't last all morning **
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** A cloudburst doesn't last
all day... **
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If there's people joining in,
I'd appreciate it too.
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It seems I've got... We can forget
about the second part of it.
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The only thing...
The main thing is...
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"January 2nd. Started rehearsing
at Twickenham.
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"Derek and I are going to
do the musical Hey Man.
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"January 3rd. Rehearsing
at Twickenham.
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"January 10th. Got up, went to
Twickenham, rehearsed until lunchtime,
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"left The Beatles,
went home and, in the
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evening, did King Of Fuh
at Trident Studios."
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'January 11th. Got up. John and Yoko
came and diverted me at breakfast.'
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I just thought, "Well,
what's the point of this?"
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I thought, I'm quite capable
of being relatively happy on my own,
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And I'm not able to be
happy in this situation.
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You know, "I'm getting out of here."
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It's like... It's complicated now.
See, if we can get it simpler...
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and then complicate it where it
needs complications.
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But it's complicated in the bit...
It's not complicated.
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But, no, I mean, you know...
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I'll play just the chord
if you like, and...
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C'mon, you always get... Always get
annoyed when I say that.
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I'm trying to help, but I always
hear myself annoying you.
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Shall we...try it like this,
you know?
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It's funny that I don't...
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It's this one,
it's like should we play guitar
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through "Hey, Jude"?
Well, I don't think we should.
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Yeah, OK, well, I don't mind.
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I'll play, you know,
whatever you want me to play.
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Or I won't play at all
if you don't want me to play.
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You know, whatever it is that
will please you, I'll do it.
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I wish we could start
hearing the tapes now.
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Like, do it
and then hear what it is.
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It was just a very, very difficult,
stressful time.
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And to be, you know,
even under pressure,
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being filmed having a row as well.
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That's what happened.
I just got up and I thought,
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"Well, I'm not doing this anymore.
I'm out of here."
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And so I got my guitar
and I just went home.
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And wrote Wah-Wah.
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Did you ever hear
the thing about John Lennon saying,
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when George walked out of the
Let It Be session in frustration,
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"Let's get Eric Clapton"?
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Yeah. Did you ever think what it
would be like to be in The Beatles?
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HE LAUGHS
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Yeah.
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The pros and cons of being
in a band like that...
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were massively extreme.
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They were times when you just...
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it was like the closest knit family
you've ever seen in your life.
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But as that can be, too,
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the cruelty and the viciousness
was unparalleled.
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We didn't underestimate George.
We knew that he was peaking,
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you know,
as we got to those records.
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He'd not been really interested
in the beginning, I don't think.
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And because John and I did
so much of the writing,
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he could just leave it to us.
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But, erm...
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I think he realised, you know,
that there was something in this.
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That artistically and financially,
it was a good thing to get into.
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So by that time, erm, yeah,
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we realised that he was really
coming up with the goods.
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I think, you know,
with George, you know,
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it wasn't his ambition to be
in The Beatles for his whole life.
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Sometimes it could be quite
difficult to get a song on an album.
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When you think that in Let It Be,
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they rehearsed All Things Must Pass
and a couple of other
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of George's songs that didn't make
it on to Let It Be, right,
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and didn't make it on to Abbey Road,
right,
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but made it onto
his first solo album,
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he was stockpiling stuff.
You know, stuff was building up.
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** Something in the way she moves **
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** Attracts me like no other lover **
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** Something in the way she woos me **
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** I don't want to leave her now **
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** You know I believe and how... **
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I don't honestly believe that giving
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Something to Joe Cocker, or giving
My Sweet Lord to Billy Preston
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had anything to do with
his confidence as a songwriter.
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I think he was totally confident
about the songs.
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The insecurity may have been
if The Beatles kept going,
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"How many songs am I going to be
able to get on each album?"
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And with the backlog
sort of mounting up of songs
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that he had, get it out there
and get something from it.
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** Somewhere in her smile
she knows **
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** That I need no other lover **
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** Something in her style
that shows me **
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** I don't want to leave her now **
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** You know I believe and how. **
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Something was a great song,
is a great song,
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and John just said,
"That should be a single."
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And that was the first time that
George's song was a single.
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It was usually Paul's, and George
was usually the B-side.
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But, you know, he just said,
"This should be the single."
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Because he always
cared about George.
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They had something going, you know.
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** You're asking me
Will my love grow? **
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** I don't know, I don't know **
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** You stick around,
now it may show **
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** I don't know, I don't know... **
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Can you describe the scene
at Apple Corps, a typical day?
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It was a bit like spin the top
and see where it goes.
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You know, George met the Hells
Angels, right, and said,
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"Hey, if you're ever in London,
pop in to Apple.
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"We'd love to see you." You know.
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Never thinking it's going to happen.
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Six months later, you know,
30 motorbikes, you know,
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Harley Davidsons, are outside
the offices in Savile Row,
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you know, with the Hells Angels.
"Well, George said it was OK."
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Right, they're all living in Apple.
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At a Christmas party,
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John and Yoko came as
Father and Mother Christmas,
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and we had this 24-pound turkey
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that only had to make it
from here to that couch.
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That's where the table was.
Didn't make it, right?
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Two guys were carrying it in,
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and the Hells Angels
just ripped it to pieces.
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By the time it got to the table,
there was nothing left.
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And then, you know, they were
sleeping in the studio and stuff
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and so we asked them to go.
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You know, "Could you please leave."
And they said, "No.
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"George asked us. It's nothing to do
with you. George said it was OK."
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Right. "Well, George is going to
have to tell them to leave." Right?
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So...
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George knew the situation and knew
he would have to ask them to leave
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but he had to figure out how
he was going to ask them.
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And, er...
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So he did it very well. He was
talking to them and he said,
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"You know, there's yin and yang,
in and out, up and down,
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"you're here, you go."
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And they said, "OK." And went.
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I think we'd kind of come to
the end of our tether.
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We'd sort of done about
all we wanted to do.
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We would get a bit testy with
each other. It was like a marriage.
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You know, you love each other,
but you're getting fed up.
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And then we'd solve it,
and we're good friends.
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We'd realise we loved each other,
and it was all cool.
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But then we'd argue again, you know.
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My house was like
the reconciliation house.
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We all shouted at each other
and talked it over
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and then we went back to work.
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He comes in, he'd been to India
again, I think,
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and he says, "I've got this song.
It's like seven-and-a-half time."
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"Yeah, so?"
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You know, he might as well
have talked to me in Arabic,
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you know what I mean?
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** Here comes the sun,
do-do-do-do-do **
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** Here comes the sun **
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** And I say, It's all right... **
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Da-da! And that's how I come off.
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I had to find some way
that I could physically do it,
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and do it every time
so it came off on the time.
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That's one of those Indian tricks.
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I had no way of going, "One, two,
three, four, five, six, seven."
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It's not my brain.
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So as long as I did, "Der-der-ler,
do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do da-da!"
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"OK, that's seven. Good. Got it."
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It was one of those beautiful spring
mornings. I think it was April.
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We were just walking round
the garden with our guitars.
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And that was...
I don't do that, you know.
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I'd only ever do... This was what
George brought to the situation.
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He was just a magical guy and
he would show up with his guitar,
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get out the guitar,
get out of the car with the guitar
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and come in and you'd start playing.
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And we'd walk around the garden.
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We sat down at the bottom of
the garden, looking out over the...
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And the sun was shining
and it was a beautiful morning
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and he started to sing.
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Started to sing Here Comes The Sun,
the opening lines, you know, and...
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and I just watched this
thing come to life.
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** Little darling **
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** It's been a long,
cold, lonely winter **
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** Little darling **
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** It feels like years
since it's been here **
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** Here comes the sun, do-do-do-do **
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** Here comes the sun **
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** And I say, it's all right... **
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What would you say
you learned from each other?
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I'd say we just learned
a bunch of stuff.
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What it was, we'll never know.
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And I always liken us to like,
four corners of a square.
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People say,
"You know, John was the impor..."
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or "John and Paul
were the important ones."
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And so and so and so and so.
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But I say,
"No, no, no, it's a square."
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Without any of those corners,
you collapse.
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The days that we spent
as these Beatles,
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and we'll probably die as Beatles,
err...
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you know, we understood it.
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No one else will ever
understand that.
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And, you know,
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we actually understood it
cos we experienced it.
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How did you feel when the band
finally called it quits?
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It was very difficult.
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We'd done this a long time,
and as I said before, you know,
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no matter how bad it was...
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and some days it was very bad
in the studio,
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just the atmosphere
and the tension and the distance...
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but...we, you know...
If the count-in came in,
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if someone counted it in,
we all gave everything.
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It was quite obvious
that the Beatles gave us
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the vehicle to be able
to do so much.
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When we were younger
we grew right through that,
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but it got to a point
where it was stifling us.
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There was too much restriction.
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You know, it had to self-destruct.
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And I wasn't feeling
bad about anybody wanting to leave.
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I wanted out myself.
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I could see a much, you know,
better time for myself by, you know,
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being away from the band.
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** What I feel **
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** I can't say **
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** But my love is there for you
any time of day **
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** But if it's not love **
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** That you need **
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** Then I'll try my best
to make everything succeed **
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** Tell me, what is my life
without your love? **
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** Tell me who am I
without you **
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** By my side? **
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** What I know **
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** I can do... **
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The band that I was in,
we had more stress than everybody.
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And yet, it's all these other people
who are all offing themselves
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left right and centre.
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And sometimes, I'd be in a crazy mode
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and then Ravi would come and I'd
think, "Oh, what am I going to do?"
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But the moment you just go for it,
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then it would turn out much better
than you would expect.
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And I used to have the same feeling
with...
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I became quite friendly
at one point with, erm,
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Swami Bhaktivedanta,
who formed the Krishna temple.
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But I... You know, they'd call me up
and say, "Come to the temple,"
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and, "The Swami's here
and he'd love to see you."
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And I'd be like, going through some
private nightmare or something,
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and I'd think, "How can I go to
the temple when I'm like this?"
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But then I'd go.
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I'd always walk out of there
thinking, "Oh, thank you, Lord."
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I think everything George did,
including the songs that he wrote
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that didn't have spiritual words
directly in them, were spiritual
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and that that was always
on his mind.
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Even the song Something,
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that is considered one of the
greatest love songs ever written...
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I think Frank Sinatra said that -
can be seen as a love song to God.
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What about the music makes it
spiritual, aside from the words?
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I think the thing about
the music that makes it spiritual
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is the person who's singing it,
namely George.
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That he wanted to be spiritual,
he had a spiritual dimension to him,
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he was known to be involved
in spirituality.
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A mantra as we know it
in English means
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some phrase that's repeated
again and again.
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Actually, mantra is a Sanskrit word
originally.
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It meant a sacred chant,
to this maha mantra.
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Maha means great in Sanskrit.
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It means the great chant
for deliverance.
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In 1966, I had gone to San Francisco
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and I'd heard that the devotees
had recorded a record at that time.
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I had also heard that The Beatles
had ordered 300 copies of that LP,
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33 1/3 LP vinyl recording.
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And it was a kind of thing where
it just sort of passed.
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"OK, the Beatles got 300 copies,
so..."
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After about a week,
we just sort of forgot about it.
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But I found out later that George
had gotten that record himself
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and that he and John had chanted
the Hare Krishna mantra
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while sailing somewhere
in the Mediterranean Sea,
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for so long that he said
that his jaws were aching.
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I think that chanting
helped George a lot
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to overcome feelings of distress
and anger.
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He once said to me...
George once said that,
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"Once you start chanting,
you don't want to stop."
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I think that he was very attached
to the chanting
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and also to people like myself
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who were of his age
and who were on a spiritual path.
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Sometimes I called him
a closet Krishna
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because he didn't shave his head,
he didn't wear robes.
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** Hare Krishna **
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** Hare Krishna **
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** Krishna Krishna **
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** Hare Hare **
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** Hare Rama **
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** Hare Rama **
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** Rama Rama **
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** Hare Hare **
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** Hare Krishna **
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** Hare Krishna **
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** Krishna Krishna **
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** Hare Hare... **
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He wanted to make an album
for the Radha Krishna Temple.
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All of these people
in their white robes, bald heads,
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going round,
hitting the Indian bells...
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just trying to, at times,
record all of them with them
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not necessarily keeping
still all the time,
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and some of the weird instruments
that were being
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brought in to be recorded,
it was absolutely fascinating.
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** Hare Krishna **
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** Hare Krishna **
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** Krishna Krishna **
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** Hare Hare **
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** Hare Rama **
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** Hare Rama **
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** Rama Rama **
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** Hare Hare. **
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I remember hearing it on a car radio
somewhere in the east part of...
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east London,
and the disc jockey saying,
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"That was a song by a group
of bald-headed Americans."
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George said about taking
on this project himself,
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recording the devotees singing
the Hare Krishna mantra,
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was that he wanted to
get across what he believed
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through a medium
that he was familiar with.
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And that was chanting,
that was a 45 record.
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And it was quite amazing because
myself and none of us thought
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that this was going to be
a popular record,
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and yet it became very popular.
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It was played in the intermission
at the Isle of Wight concert,
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when Bob Dylan was setting up.
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And then it was played
at the intermission
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in a football game in Manchester,
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where Manchester United was
a very popular soccer team.
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All the fans, who were probably
just there to watch the soccer,
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started singing along
because it was only three words
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and they could do it.
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There were 5,000 football fans
singing Hare Krishna.
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People always say I'm the Beatle
who changed the most.
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But really that's what
I see life is about.
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The point is,
unless you're God-conscious
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then you have to change, because...
because it's a waste of time.
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Everybody is so limited
and so really useless
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when you think about
the limitations on yourself.
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And the whole thing is to change,
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try and make everything
better and better.
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That's what the physical world
is about, change.
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** Sunrise doesn't last all morning **
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** A cloudburst doesn't
last all day **
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** Seems my love is up **
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** And has left you with
no warning **
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** It's not always
going to be this grey **
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** All things must pass **
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** All things must pass away... **
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Well, I'm trying to,
I think, but...
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** Sunset doesn't last
all evening... **
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He just lived by his deeds.
He was spiritual and you knew it.
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And there was no salesmanship
involved.
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And it made you spiritual
being around him.
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Uh, it made you like those Krishnas,
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who could sometimes be the biggest
pain in the necks in the world,
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running around with their
robes and their shaved heads
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and their white powder
all over their face.
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Scaring you half to death coming out
of a dark studio, glowing.
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It was a very unusual choice,
I thought,
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to work with Phil Spector
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with the kind of songs
you were making on that album.
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Yeah, I suppose it was,
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but he needed a job at the time.
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And I needed somebody to help me
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because, you know, I mean,
after being in a group all the time
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with a producer suddenly to
be a solo artist with no producer,
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you know, and no group, you know?
Yeah.
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So it's like, you know,
it's quite a big jump.
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John phoned me up in the morning.
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He said, "I've just written this song
and I'm going to record it today
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"and have it out tomorrow.
It's called Instant Karma.
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"Will you come and play on it?"
I said, "OK."
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Got my guitar, went into town, went
in the office and Phil was there.
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And I said, "Come on, let's
go and do this song with John."
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And he said, "Whoa, no, no.
I can't go. I haven't been invited."
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And I said, "Don't worry.
Just come on."
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And so he stood at the back
of the control room in studio three,
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it was, in Abbey Road.
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And he stood there,
and like the engineer
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was getting all paranoid
and Phil wouldn't say anything.
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And after about a couple of
hours, I said,
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"Come on, do something."
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So then he started putting
the echo on it.
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McCartney was making an album.
John had a single ready to go.
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And now John was talking about
making an album already.
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The Plastic Ono Band.
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And I said to George, "You know, you
ought to consider making an album."
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And I'd only been there 12 hours.
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I went to George's, Friar Park,
which he had just purchased,
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and he said, "I have a few ditties
for you to hear."
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It was endless! He had literally
hundreds of songs.
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And each one was better
than the rest.
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He had all this emotion built up
when it released to me.
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I don't think he had
played it to anybody.
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Maybe Pattie.
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** Wah-wah **
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** You've given me
a wah-wah... **
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We worked over and over
on the songs in the studio
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so that everybody got
the right routine.
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And it sounded really nice
and in the control room,
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Phil was in there with the engineer
making it sound like this noise.
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The first track we ever did was
a song called Wah-Wah.
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And it sounded really nice
in the studio.
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All this nice acoustics and piano
and no echo on anything.
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We did it for hours until we,
you know,
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he had it right in the control room.
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Yeah. We went in to listen to it
and I thought,
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I hate it. It's so horrible.
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Did you say that to him? Yeah,
I said, "It's horrible. I hate it."
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Eric said, "Oh, I love it."
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So I said, "Well, you can have it
on your album then."
435
00:25:24,915 --> 00:25:26,274
But I grew to like it.
436
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He wouldn't let anything go
until it was right.
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My Sweet Lord must have
taken about 12 hours
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to overdub the guitar solos.
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He had nine harmonies working on.
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Bwa, bwa, bwa, bwa, bwa, bwa, bwa.
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He must've had that in triplicate,
six-part harmony
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before we decided
on two-part harmony.
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He had it metic...
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He was a... Perfectionist
is not the word.
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Anyone can be a perfectionist.
He was beyond that.
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He just had to have it so right,
and he would try and try
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and experiment and experiment
and experiment upon experiment.
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Whoa.
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One, two, one, two, three, four.
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** You don't need a love... **
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You don't need a...
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I was just going to bed
and I was cleaning me teeth
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and suddenly in me head came this
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** You don't need a... **
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All I had to do was pick up
the guitar,
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find what key it was in
and fill in the missing words.
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** You don't need a love in **
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** You don't need a bedpan **
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00:26:50,915 --> 00:26:52,954
** You don't need a horoscope **
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00:26:52,955 --> 00:26:56,274
** Or a microscope to see
the mess that you're in **
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** If you open up your heart **
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** You know what I mean **
463
00:27:00,995 --> 00:27:03,594
** Been polluted so long **
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00:27:03,595 --> 00:27:07,034
** Here's a way for you
to get clean **
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00:27:07,035 --> 00:27:11,155
** While the Pope owns
51% of General Motors **
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** And the stock exchange **
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** Is the only thing
he's qualified to quote us **
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** But the Lord is awaiting on you all
To awaken and see **
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** By chanting the names of the Lord
And you'll be free **
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** You don't need a love in **
471
00:27:38,955 --> 00:27:41,794
** You don't need no bedpan **
472
00:27:41,795 --> 00:27:43,235
** You don't need a horoscope **
473
00:27:43,236 --> 00:27:46,434
** Or a microscope
To see the mess that you're in **
474
00:27:46,435 --> 00:27:49,194
** If you open up your heart **
475
00:27:49,195 --> 00:27:51,074
** You will know what I mean **
476
00:27:51,075 --> 00:27:54,514
** We've been polluted so long **
477
00:27:54,515 --> 00:27:58,274
** Now here's a way for you
to get clean **
478
00:27:58,275 --> 00:28:00,834
** By chanting the
names of the Lord **
479
00:28:00,835 --> 00:28:02,315
** And you'll be free **
480
00:28:02,316 --> 00:28:07,154
** The Lord is awaiting on you
all to awaken and see **
481
00:28:07,155 --> 00:28:13,674
** By chanting the names
of the Lord and you'll be free **
482
00:28:13,675 --> 00:28:17,475
** The Lord is awaiting on you
all to awaken and see... **
483
00:28:27,435 --> 00:28:30,034
The album took six months to make.
484
00:28:30,035 --> 00:28:33,794
And George had endless time.
485
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:37,434
He never really knew if he wanted
the album to come out.
486
00:28:37,435 --> 00:28:39,354
So the longer it took to make,
487
00:28:39,355 --> 00:28:42,514
the better George,
the happier George was.
488
00:28:42,515 --> 00:28:45,594
I picked My Sweet Lord
of all the songs.
489
00:28:45,595 --> 00:28:47,594
cos I told him that's the hit.
490
00:28:47,595 --> 00:28:50,074
And everybody fought me on that
491
00:28:50,075 --> 00:28:53,754
cos they said it's got
religious overtones in it.
492
00:28:53,755 --> 00:28:56,154
I just said it didn't matter.
493
00:28:56,155 --> 00:28:59,034
It's the most commercial song in it.
494
00:28:59,035 --> 00:29:01,274
And George was even nervous about it
495
00:29:01,275 --> 00:29:03,074
because of Hare Krishna in it
496
00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:05,475
and My Sweet Lord
and was the public ready for it.
497
00:29:05,476 --> 00:29:07,834
I said, "It doesn't matter.
It's a hit record."
498
00:29:07,835 --> 00:29:11,114
I thought a lot about whether to do
My Sweet Lord or not.
499
00:29:11,115 --> 00:29:12,315
Having written it,
500
00:29:12,316 --> 00:29:15,194
I thought it's really committing
myself to something.
501
00:29:15,195 --> 00:29:19,194
There's going to be a lot of people
are going to really hate me.
502
00:29:19,195 --> 00:29:23,274
Because people fear the unknown,
you see.
503
00:29:23,275 --> 00:29:26,474
It's some sort of instinct
in people.
504
00:29:26,475 --> 00:29:31,234
The point was that I was sticking
my neck out on the chopping block.
505
00:29:31,235 --> 00:29:34,794
But at the same time, I thought,
"Well, nobody's saying it." Yeah.
506
00:29:34,795 --> 00:29:36,994
I wish somebody else was doing it.
507
00:29:36,995 --> 00:29:40,914
So that, you know, to represent,
you know, cos everything
508
00:29:40,915 --> 00:29:43,194
should be represented in a way.
509
00:29:43,195 --> 00:29:46,755
If everybody's just going
"Be bop, baby" you know, OK.
510
00:29:51,035 --> 00:29:53,194
We were on tour with
Bonnie & Delaney.
511
00:29:53,195 --> 00:29:56,114
They came over to England
and George was a big fan.
512
00:29:56,115 --> 00:29:59,714
And one place we were,
we had a piano in the dressing room.
513
00:29:59,715 --> 00:30:03,514
And, uh, the discussion was,
how do you write a gospel song?
514
00:30:03,515 --> 00:30:06,594
So I went to the piano and started
playing some gospel changes.
515
00:30:06,595 --> 00:30:08,754
And I don't know
if it was Delaney or Bonnie,
516
00:30:08,755 --> 00:30:10,834
but one of them starts,
** Oh, my Lord. **
517
00:30:10,835 --> 00:30:13,474
And then they went on
** We say hallelu... **
518
00:30:13,475 --> 00:30:18,675
** My sweet Lord
Mmm, my Lord **
519
00:30:20,515 --> 00:30:22,114
** My sweet Lord... **
520
00:30:22,115 --> 00:30:26,195
** Well, I really wanna see you **
521
00:30:27,675 --> 00:30:30,234
** I really want to be with you **
522
00:30:30,235 --> 00:30:33,234
** I really want to see you, Lord **
523
00:30:33,235 --> 00:30:35,714
** But it takes so long, oh, Lord **
524
00:30:35,715 --> 00:30:40,914
** My sweet Lord. **
525
00:30:44,675 --> 00:30:48,475
** My sweet Lord **
526
00:30:54,395 --> 00:30:56,794
** Oh, my sweet Lord **
527
00:30:56,795 --> 00:30:59,314
** Oh, my... **
528
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:02,875
What is it about it
that makes it so timeless?
529
00:31:04,235 --> 00:31:08,474
Well, is it? Uh,
first it's simple,
530
00:31:08,475 --> 00:31:11,034
you know, and the repetition.
531
00:31:11,035 --> 00:31:15,674
You know, really, I think,
the thing about a mantra,
532
00:31:15,675 --> 00:31:17,714
you see, it's got a mantra in there.
533
00:31:17,715 --> 00:31:19,995
And, uh, mantras are...
534
00:31:21,395 --> 00:31:27,754
Well, they call it
a mystical sound vibration
535
00:31:27,755 --> 00:31:30,074
encased in a syllable.
536
00:31:30,075 --> 00:31:35,994
It has this power within it,
and you know, it's just hypnotic
537
00:31:35,995 --> 00:31:39,994
and it's kinda nice.
You know, it's nice.
538
00:31:39,995 --> 00:31:42,794
I mean, I'd have done that
mantra for ages.
539
00:31:42,795 --> 00:31:46,554
Once I chanted it for, like,
three days non-stop
540
00:31:46,555 --> 00:31:48,954
just driving through Europe.
541
00:31:48,955 --> 00:31:52,394
And you just get like hypnotised.
You get a...
542
00:31:52,395 --> 00:31:55,434
on some subtle level
which makes you feel
543
00:31:55,435 --> 00:31:57,395
so good that you don't want to stop.
544
00:31:57,396 --> 00:32:00,555
"My Sweet Lord"
by George Harrison
545
00:32:49,355 --> 00:32:54,714
George's huge commitment
to Indian spirituality
546
00:32:54,715 --> 00:32:58,914
and how that would lead him
to be fairly dismissive of
547
00:32:58,915 --> 00:33:01,714
the material things
that we'd all come to enjoy,
548
00:33:01,715 --> 00:33:07,154
you know, and so he was trying to
remove himself from that in some way,
549
00:33:07,155 --> 00:33:10,434
and even in a physical way,
you know?
550
00:33:10,435 --> 00:33:13,274
And I had become, bit by bit,
551
00:33:13,275 --> 00:33:18,314
more and more obsessed
with his wife Pattie.
552
00:33:18,315 --> 00:33:21,354
And was making amateur
kind of inroads
553
00:33:21,355 --> 00:33:23,994
into finding out what was going on
554
00:33:23,995 --> 00:33:27,714
and what was happening
to their relationship.
555
00:33:27,715 --> 00:33:31,514
And at the same time trying to
balance my relationship with him.
556
00:33:31,515 --> 00:33:34,514
And when we finally did start
to act it out,
557
00:33:34,515 --> 00:33:37,634
I mean, I went to George
right away and said,
558
00:33:37,635 --> 00:33:40,074
"Look, I think this
is going to happen,
559
00:33:40,075 --> 00:33:42,194
"and I think, you know,
it is already,
560
00:33:42,195 --> 00:33:43,914
"there's the feelings there.
561
00:33:43,915 --> 00:33:49,034
I have to know what
you feel about that."
562
00:33:49,035 --> 00:33:53,514
It was almost like, well,
if you want me to stop and go away,
563
00:33:53,515 --> 00:33:56,074
I will, you know.
But I need to know what...
564
00:33:56,075 --> 00:33:59,714
And he was very kind of cavalier,
you know?
565
00:33:59,715 --> 00:34:03,234
He said, "Well, take her.
She's yours," kind of thing,
566
00:34:03,235 --> 00:34:06,314
"But, in fact, can I have that,
we'll swap."
567
00:34:06,315 --> 00:34:12,714
And to be honest, it had kind
of almost got to that before anyway.
568
00:34:12,715 --> 00:34:15,234
There was a lot of kind of
swapping going on,
569
00:34:15,235 --> 00:34:16,874
and a lot of fooling around.
570
00:34:16,875 --> 00:34:19,554
And this is, you know,
'60s free-love stuff.
571
00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:20,714
I mean, so...
572
00:34:20,715 --> 00:34:26,434
And George's attitude seemed to have
more wisdom in it than anyone else's,
573
00:34:26,435 --> 00:34:29,794
in that this is all material,
it's all Maya,
574
00:34:29,795 --> 00:34:33,754
it's all irrelevant
to the bigger picture.
575
00:34:33,755 --> 00:34:35,874
Doesn't really matter,
in other words.
576
00:34:35,875 --> 00:34:38,114
And I thought, phew, God,
you know, well,
577
00:34:38,115 --> 00:34:40,634
that's almost like giving me
carte blanche.
578
00:34:40,635 --> 00:34:45,994
From time to time,
during the spring and summer of 1970
579
00:34:45,995 --> 00:34:47,594
Eric and I saw each other.
580
00:34:47,595 --> 00:34:50,554
One day we were walking down
Oxford Street when
581
00:34:50,555 --> 00:34:53,754
Eric said, "Do you like me, then,
or are you seeing me
582
00:34:53,755 --> 00:34:55,434
"because I'm famous?"
583
00:34:55,435 --> 00:34:59,154
I replied, "Oh, I thought you were
seeing me because I'm famous."
584
00:34:59,155 --> 00:35:00,554
And we both laughed.
585
00:35:00,555 --> 00:35:03,514
He always found it difficult
to talk about his feelings.
586
00:35:03,515 --> 00:35:06,114
Instead, he poured them
into his music and writing.
587
00:35:06,115 --> 00:35:08,714
Another of our secret meetings took
place at a flat
588
00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:10,874
in South Kensington in London.
589
00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:13,274
Eric wanted me to listen
to a song he'd written.
590
00:35:13,275 --> 00:35:16,594
He switched on the tape machine,
turned up the volume,
591
00:35:16,595 --> 00:35:20,234
and played me the most powerful,
moving song I'd ever heard.
592
00:35:20,235 --> 00:35:23,794
It was Layla, about a man who falls
hopelessly in love with a woman
593
00:35:23,795 --> 00:35:26,434
who loves him but is unavailable.
594
00:35:26,435 --> 00:35:27,754
My first thought was,
595
00:35:27,755 --> 00:35:30,554
"Oh, God, everyone's going
to know who this is."
596
00:35:30,555 --> 00:35:33,794
I felt uncomfortable that he was
pushing me in a direction
597
00:35:33,795 --> 00:35:35,874
I wasn't certain I wanted to go.
598
00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:38,834
But the song got the better of me
with the realisation that
599
00:35:38,835 --> 00:35:42,914
I had inspired such passion
and such creativity.
600
00:35:42,915 --> 00:35:45,234
I could no longer resist.
601
00:35:45,235 --> 00:35:46,914
That evening, I went to a party
602
00:35:46,915 --> 00:35:49,354
at the rock manager
Robert Stigwood's house
603
00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:52,154
in Stanmore, North London.
604
00:35:52,155 --> 00:35:55,234
George had said he didn't want
to go. Eric was there.
605
00:35:55,235 --> 00:35:58,354
And I felt elated by what
had happened earlier in the day.
606
00:35:58,355 --> 00:36:00,514
But also felt deeply guilty.
607
00:36:00,515 --> 00:36:02,354
** Isn't it a pity... **
608
00:36:02,355 --> 00:36:05,194
Much later in the evening,
George appeared.
609
00:36:05,195 --> 00:36:06,994
He kept asking "Where's Pattie?"
610
00:36:06,995 --> 00:36:08,874
** Isn't it a shame... **
611
00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:12,435
He was about to leave when he
spotted me in the garden with Eric.
612
00:36:13,515 --> 00:36:15,754
** How we break
each other's hearts... **
613
00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:18,834
He came over to us and said,
"What's going on?"
614
00:36:18,835 --> 00:36:22,234
** And cause each other pain... **
615
00:36:22,235 --> 00:36:26,674
Eric said, "I have to tell you, man,
that I'm in love with your wife.
616
00:36:26,675 --> 00:36:29,514
** How we take each other's love... **
617
00:36:29,515 --> 00:36:31,994
George was furious.
He turned to me and said...
618
00:36:31,995 --> 00:36:34,314
** Without thinking any more... **
619
00:36:34,315 --> 00:36:38,674
.."Well, are you going with him
or coming with me?"
620
00:36:38,675 --> 00:36:41,874
** Forgetting to give back... **
621
00:36:41,875 --> 00:36:44,514
And I said,
"George, I'm coming home."
622
00:36:44,515 --> 00:36:46,595
** Isn't it a pity... **
623
00:37:15,715 --> 00:37:17,835
** Wah-wah **
624
00:37:19,035 --> 00:37:22,115
** You've given me a wah-wah **
625
00:37:25,835 --> 00:37:29,475
** And I'm thinking of you **
626
00:37:30,995 --> 00:37:35,354
** And all the things
that we used to do **
627
00:37:35,355 --> 00:37:38,395
** Wah-wah **
628
00:37:39,995 --> 00:37:42,955
** Wah-wah... **
629
00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:57,754
George was always so in tune
with people. He loved Ravi.
630
00:37:57,755 --> 00:38:00,034
When Ravi told him how bad it was,
631
00:38:00,035 --> 00:38:02,914
I think he just started making
calls immediately.
632
00:38:02,915 --> 00:38:06,554
Ravi came to me and he said
if he was to do a concert, maybe
633
00:38:06,555 --> 00:38:10,794
play to so many thousand people,
but to the size of the problem,
634
00:38:10,795 --> 00:38:14,914
the money, the funds that would be
made would just be so small.
635
00:38:14,915 --> 00:38:18,474
So that's where I came along.
636
00:38:18,475 --> 00:38:23,674
I can generate money by doing
concerts and by making records.
637
00:38:23,675 --> 00:38:26,874
George, how much money do you hope
to get from this?
638
00:38:26,875 --> 00:38:29,394
Well, it depends really.
639
00:38:29,395 --> 00:38:33,074
Maybe through the concerts,
we could estimate maybe about...
640
00:38:33,075 --> 00:38:34,194
How much?
641
00:38:34,195 --> 00:38:38,514
Quarter of a million. Maybe 250,000
from the concert.
642
00:38:38,515 --> 00:38:41,714
But if we record the concert
and film the concert
643
00:38:41,715 --> 00:38:45,554
then maybe that would be a greater
way of making the money.
644
00:38:45,555 --> 00:38:50,355
You know, a record could possibly
sell a million, two million.
645
00:39:11,435 --> 00:39:13,874
Thank you. If you appreciate
the tuning so much,
646
00:39:13,875 --> 00:39:18,275
I hope you'll enjoy
the playing more. Thank you.
647
00:40:07,195 --> 00:40:09,954
** Watch out now, take care **
648
00:40:09,955 --> 00:40:12,995
** Beware of falling swingers **
649
00:40:17,995 --> 00:40:20,875
** Dropping all around you **
650
00:40:25,035 --> 00:40:26,995
** The pain that often mingles **
651
00:40:29,515 --> 00:40:34,834
** In your fingertips **
652
00:40:34,835 --> 00:40:39,315
** Beware of darkness **
653
00:40:45,555 --> 00:40:48,474
** Watch out now, take care **
654
00:40:48,475 --> 00:40:52,635
** Beware of the thoughts
that linger **
655
00:40:57,355 --> 00:40:59,595
** Winding up inside your head **
656
00:41:04,435 --> 00:41:08,914
** The hopelessness around you **
657
00:41:08,915 --> 00:41:12,035
** In the dead of night **
658
00:41:16,155 --> 00:41:18,914
** Beware of sadness **
659
00:41:18,915 --> 00:41:21,715
** It can hit you **
660
00:41:23,395 --> 00:41:26,435
** It will hurt you **
661
00:41:28,035 --> 00:41:32,434
** Make you sore and what is more **
662
00:41:32,435 --> 00:41:37,355
** That is not what
you are here for. **
663
00:41:38,715 --> 00:41:42,474
There were two concerts.
One in the afternoon at two
664
00:41:42,475 --> 00:41:44,354
and one at eight o'clock.
665
00:41:44,355 --> 00:41:49,274
It was the first of its kind,
benefit by stars
666
00:41:49,275 --> 00:41:53,794
for a relief concert
and it was magical.
667
00:41:53,795 --> 00:41:55,675
That's the only word to describe it
668
00:41:55,676 --> 00:41:58,794
because nobody had ever seen
anything like that before,
669
00:41:58,795 --> 00:42:04,634
that amount of star power on stage
since Woodstock.
670
00:42:04,635 --> 00:42:08,594
And this was all in two hours
on stage at one time.
671
00:42:08,595 --> 00:42:11,954
Eric was there.
Leon Russell was there.
672
00:42:11,955 --> 00:42:13,314
Ringo was there.
673
00:42:13,315 --> 00:42:17,074
Dylan was a no-show up until
the last minute.
674
00:42:17,075 --> 00:42:21,274
I had to go down to his apartment
and literally get him.
675
00:42:21,275 --> 00:42:23,034
It was chaos.
676
00:42:23,035 --> 00:42:25,794
So we didn't know what
we were doing,
677
00:42:25,795 --> 00:42:29,634
and mics were all over the place.
678
00:42:29,635 --> 00:42:32,714
We only had three hours
to mic the band.
679
00:42:32,715 --> 00:42:34,714
Then the audience came in.
680
00:42:34,715 --> 00:42:37,394
We didn't know how to mic
the audience.
681
00:42:37,395 --> 00:42:42,554
So the mixing took six months.
The concert took,
682
00:42:42,555 --> 00:42:45,234
the two concerts took four hours.
683
00:42:45,235 --> 00:42:49,954
And we had to put together
what was a Grammy-winning album.
684
00:42:49,955 --> 00:42:52,634
George knew all these people.
685
00:42:52,635 --> 00:42:58,034
You know, they were his close
friends. I got that second-hand.
686
00:42:58,035 --> 00:43:00,514
You know, I got to meet
the great Alla Rakha,
687
00:43:00,515 --> 00:43:03,274
the greatest tabla player who
ever lived, you know?
688
00:43:03,275 --> 00:43:04,834
George was always saying,
689
00:43:04,835 --> 00:43:07,834
"Ask Alla Rakha
to show you some things."
690
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:10,554
And so, I think he finally
691
00:43:10,555 --> 00:43:13,474
got the picture that he oughta
show me some things.
692
00:43:13,475 --> 00:43:15,015
So he would hold his
hands and he'd go...
693
00:43:15,016 --> 00:43:18,194
And he'd do
this whole thing,
694
00:43:18,195 --> 00:43:20,954
this Indian-technique thing
and George would be watching.
695
00:43:20,955 --> 00:43:23,754
I'd look up a few times
and George would be watching
696
00:43:23,755 --> 00:43:25,114
and laughing, you know?
697
00:43:25,115 --> 00:43:27,794
How am I supposed to understand
what it is he's doing.
698
00:43:27,795 --> 00:43:30,034
This genius trying
to teach a rock drummer.
699
00:43:30,035 --> 00:43:33,954
I really appreciated in later days
that he actually
700
00:43:33,955 --> 00:43:37,634
went in front of that audience
on the Bangladesh concert
701
00:43:37,635 --> 00:43:39,874
because he did it for his friends.
702
00:43:39,875 --> 00:43:42,954
That he actually went up there
and talked to an audience.
703
00:43:42,955 --> 00:43:46,634
I think that must have been about
the first time he's ever done this.
704
00:43:46,635 --> 00:43:49,714
You see, a few things in English,
or a few things in German
705
00:43:49,715 --> 00:43:53,274
on the stage where it didn't matter,
is a big difference than
706
00:43:53,275 --> 00:43:56,714
to an audience where he knew it
was going to be filmed and used.
707
00:43:56,715 --> 00:43:59,994
To talk to an audience was very,
very difficult for him.
708
00:43:59,995 --> 00:44:02,954
There's somebody on bass who many
people have heard about
709
00:44:02,955 --> 00:44:04,954
but they never actually
have seen him.
710
00:44:04,955 --> 00:44:06,514
Klaus Voormann.
711
00:44:08,515 --> 00:44:09,954
'And one day, '
712
00:44:09,955 --> 00:44:13,634
I was pretty upset.
And we walked in the garden.
713
00:44:13,635 --> 00:44:16,194
And we didn't say much
for a long time.
714
00:44:16,195 --> 00:44:20,235
We sat down on a bench,
and we really...
715
00:44:22,515 --> 00:44:24,434
..went inside of me.
716
00:44:24,435 --> 00:44:31,274
He wanted to really find out
what made me so sad.
717
00:44:31,275 --> 00:44:33,674
And he did it in such
a fantastic way.
718
00:44:33,675 --> 00:44:37,794
I can't repeat the words,
or I can't tell you
719
00:44:37,795 --> 00:44:42,394
exactly what it is,
but he just, in a fantastic way,
720
00:44:42,395 --> 00:44:44,274
made me feel good.
721
00:44:44,275 --> 00:44:48,474
Found out what the problem is
in no time.
722
00:44:48,475 --> 00:44:53,514
You know, nobody's ever done this
before and will never do it again.
723
00:44:53,515 --> 00:44:59,434
George is a very extreme character.
He always goes to the extreme.
724
00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:03,474
If it's taking coke,
you know, sniffing coke,
725
00:45:03,475 --> 00:45:08,954
or if it is being open to
meditation.
726
00:45:08,955 --> 00:45:12,994
He was in New York,
and one time I said,
727
00:45:12,995 --> 00:45:15,154
"I'll come over and watch you."
728
00:45:15,155 --> 00:45:17,994
And he said, "OK." And then he said,
"Oh, Klaus is coming.
729
00:45:17,995 --> 00:45:21,434
"Hide the stuff."
And that made me very, very sad.
730
00:45:21,435 --> 00:45:26,754
I lived first in the main house,
in a room. Old Victorian house.
731
00:45:26,755 --> 00:45:30,754
Beautiful old kitchen. In the early
days, you had your servants.
732
00:45:30,755 --> 00:45:33,914
They were going from the kitchen
to the front room
733
00:45:33,915 --> 00:45:35,514
and bringing you the food.
734
00:45:35,515 --> 00:45:39,914
They had to walk through five doors,
"Oh, I left the spoons."
735
00:45:39,915 --> 00:45:45,434
Had to go back. It was really crazy.
It was not meant to be lived in
736
00:45:45,435 --> 00:45:48,674
by normal people.
737
00:45:48,675 --> 00:45:52,114
So I at a certain point
suggested to George,
738
00:45:52,115 --> 00:45:56,954
"Why don't you put the kitchen where
you are? Just build a kitchen!"
739
00:45:56,955 --> 00:45:58,834
He said, "That's a good idea."
740
00:45:58,835 --> 00:46:01,315
So he actually built
a kitchen downstairs
741
00:46:01,316 --> 00:46:03,794
where you look into the garden.
742
00:46:03,795 --> 00:46:06,714
The man who built the house,
he must have been a nutcase.
743
00:46:06,715 --> 00:46:09,434
Just a complete maniac.
744
00:46:09,435 --> 00:46:10,794
One thing, for example,
745
00:46:10,795 --> 00:46:18,554
he has a picture of a friar
with a frying pan in his hand.
746
00:46:18,555 --> 00:46:23,915
And with holes in it. And it says
underneath, "Two holy friars."
747
00:46:25,235 --> 00:46:27,834
You know. Stupid stuff, in a way.
748
00:46:27,835 --> 00:46:31,994
It's not really very bright.
But that's what the whole place was.
749
00:46:31,995 --> 00:46:34,194
It was like a joke, in a way.
750
00:46:34,195 --> 00:46:35,994
"Before I bought it, the house
751
00:46:35,995 --> 00:46:39,234
"was going to be knocked down
because the Catholics would not pay
752
00:46:39,235 --> 00:46:40,435
"for the upkeep.
753
00:46:40,436 --> 00:46:43,034
"What a thing to knock down
a house like this.
754
00:46:43,035 --> 00:46:44,954
"Sir Frank helped my awareness.
755
00:46:44,955 --> 00:46:48,394
"Whatever it was I felt became
stronger or found more expression
756
00:46:48,395 --> 00:46:50,154
"by moving into that house,
757
00:46:50,155 --> 00:46:52,754
"because everything stepped up
or was heightened.
758
00:46:52,755 --> 00:46:55,474
"There were disasters
all around at that time.
759
00:46:55,475 --> 00:46:58,514
"Some were great, some were awful,
some were drawn out,
760
00:46:58,515 --> 00:47:00,514
"painful, miserable.
761
00:47:00,515 --> 00:47:02,674
"Some were not disasters after all.
762
00:47:02,675 --> 00:47:05,234
"But the thing about Sir Frank
with his advice like,
763
00:47:05,235 --> 00:47:09,154
"'Scan not a friend with
microscopic glass.'
764
00:47:09,155 --> 00:47:10,634
"I mean, that helped me
765
00:47:10,635 --> 00:47:14,074
"actively to ease up
on whomsoever I thought I loved.
766
00:47:14,075 --> 00:47:17,594
"It gave me the consciousness
not to hang onto the negative side
767
00:47:17,595 --> 00:47:19,635
"of it, to be more forgiving."
768
00:47:21,475 --> 00:47:27,794
One way of starting a day was for
him to get up when the sun gets up,
769
00:47:27,795 --> 00:47:30,074
sit down and meditate.
770
00:47:30,075 --> 00:47:33,034
For a long time he had a special
room in the house
771
00:47:33,035 --> 00:47:35,234
where he was going to meditate.
772
00:47:35,235 --> 00:47:36,994
And he was very proud of this.
773
00:47:36,995 --> 00:47:41,074
He would come to me and tell me
about it, how strong he was,
774
00:47:41,075 --> 00:47:45,514
and he was fighting the bad
parts in his body and, uh,
775
00:47:45,515 --> 00:47:47,995
he was really opening up.
776
00:47:49,315 --> 00:47:53,834
George liked turning
you on to things that he liked
777
00:47:53,835 --> 00:47:56,714
and was interested in,
whether you were a little kid
778
00:47:56,715 --> 00:47:58,994
or whether you were a grown up.
779
00:47:58,995 --> 00:48:06,514
For our kids their first experiences
at George's house were not unlike
780
00:48:06,515 --> 00:48:09,034
the experience that Derek and I had
781
00:48:09,035 --> 00:48:14,034
when we went on that weekend
to Sussex, but without the drugs.
782
00:48:14,035 --> 00:48:18,554
The impression it made upon them,
it's such a wonderful place.
783
00:48:18,555 --> 00:48:23,514
The caves, the lake, the shape
of the house. Everything.
784
00:48:23,515 --> 00:48:26,874
The detail. It was just a dream.
785
00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:29,514
** Give me love, give me love **
786
00:48:29,515 --> 00:48:32,874
** Give me peace on Earth **
787
00:48:32,875 --> 00:48:35,914
** Give me light, give me life **
788
00:48:35,915 --> 00:48:39,114
** Keep me free from birth **
789
00:48:39,115 --> 00:48:41,834
** Give me hope, help me cope **
790
00:48:41,835 --> 00:48:45,074
** With this heavy load **
791
00:48:45,075 --> 00:48:48,874
** Trying to touch and reach you **
792
00:48:48,875 --> 00:48:52,194
** With heart and soul **
793
00:48:52,195 --> 00:48:55,075
** Oh **
794
00:48:58,755 --> 00:49:01,675
** My Lord **
795
00:49:04,635 --> 00:49:06,635
** Please **
796
00:49:10,675 --> 00:49:13,274
** Take hold of my hand... **
797
00:49:13,275 --> 00:49:15,314
He created an atmosphere
in the studio.
798
00:49:15,315 --> 00:49:19,514
He put up joss sticks, make a nice
smell. He put the lights down.
799
00:49:19,515 --> 00:49:24,874
He really made it into a real
tranquil, nice sort of surrounding.
800
00:49:24,875 --> 00:49:27,194
Everybody felt just great.
801
00:49:27,195 --> 00:49:31,394
He would sit down
with the guitar most of the time,
802
00:49:31,395 --> 00:49:33,114
play the song to us.
803
00:49:33,115 --> 00:49:35,394
And then slowly we'd start
804
00:49:35,395 --> 00:49:39,114
picking up
on what the feel of the song was.
805
00:49:39,115 --> 00:49:42,034
We could take our time,
find our sound,
806
00:49:42,035 --> 00:49:44,875
do what we wanted, make suggestions.
807
00:50:02,475 --> 00:50:05,234
George had such a beautiful touch
808
00:50:05,235 --> 00:50:06,994
on the slide, you know.
809
00:50:06,995 --> 00:50:10,754
George had that kind of sound
that'd make you cry.
810
00:50:10,755 --> 00:50:13,954
When I hear certain songs
he's played slide on,
811
00:50:13,955 --> 00:50:16,674
it just takes me right to a place.
812
00:50:16,675 --> 00:50:20,994
He loved to find the right note
and, you know, if you listen to
813
00:50:20,995 --> 00:50:23,635
anything he's playing the solo on,
he certainly did.
814
00:50:24,755 --> 00:50:27,714
If I had him on my records,
you didn't have to read it,
815
00:50:27,715 --> 00:50:29,394
"Oh, that's George." You know?
816
00:50:29,395 --> 00:50:32,514
He found that incredible,
it's like a haunting
817
00:50:32,515 --> 00:50:37,794
and emotional sound
he got from his slide-ish guitar.
818
00:50:37,795 --> 00:50:42,954
With Ravi, the times
when he's completely absorbed
819
00:50:42,955 --> 00:50:46,034
so much into the music
where he's forgotten
820
00:50:46,035 --> 00:50:48,914
that he's even sitting
there playing. Mm-hm.
821
00:50:48,915 --> 00:50:51,634
And he only remembers
when he's finished the piece
822
00:50:51,635 --> 00:50:53,794
and he comes out
and the audience applaud.
823
00:50:53,795 --> 00:50:56,394
That's the moment when he realises
he's transcended
824
00:50:56,395 --> 00:51:00,034
and been somewhere,
which is the same in meditation.
825
00:51:00,035 --> 00:51:05,474
Sometimes, I think great people
can project their greatness.
826
00:51:05,475 --> 00:51:08,194
They don't have to shout about it.
827
00:51:08,195 --> 00:51:09,754
The concert Eric did,
828
00:51:09,755 --> 00:51:12,714
Eric Clapton at the Rainbow.
829
00:51:12,715 --> 00:51:15,274
Watching the concert,
I was so aware of Eric.
830
00:51:15,275 --> 00:51:17,874
All he did was
he had his eyes closed
831
00:51:17,875 --> 00:51:21,394
and he was playing
some fantastic guitar,
832
00:51:21,395 --> 00:51:23,714
and his foot was tapping.
833
00:51:23,715 --> 00:51:27,395
The thing was that the magic
was coming out of Eric's...
834
00:51:28,835 --> 00:51:30,154
..soul, or whatever. Mm.
835
00:51:30,155 --> 00:51:31,914
Through his guitar. Yeah.
836
00:51:31,915 --> 00:51:35,035
And it was at that point where
he just looked like an angel.
837
00:51:36,035 --> 00:51:38,554
When George was ready
to make a record,
838
00:51:38,555 --> 00:51:40,634
he'd just say he's got
some new songs,
839
00:51:40,635 --> 00:51:44,634
and, uh, would I be wanting to,
you know, come and play on 'em.
840
00:51:44,635 --> 00:51:47,834
When he put out Living
In The Material World, on the back
841
00:51:47,835 --> 00:51:50,874
of the record he put,
"Jim Keltner Fan Club...
842
00:51:50,875 --> 00:51:56,514
"send a self-undressed elephant
to Jim Keltner Fan Club." All that.
843
00:51:56,515 --> 00:51:59,914
And so I saw that, I went,
"George, what's that, man?
844
00:51:59,915 --> 00:52:01,195
"What did you do?"
845
00:52:01,196 --> 00:52:05,194
And he said, "Well, I figured
if I'm going to do a fan club,
846
00:52:05,195 --> 00:52:08,514
I'm going to make it about somebody
who I'm a big fan of."
847
00:52:08,515 --> 00:52:10,314
What a tremendous thing, you know?
848
00:52:10,315 --> 00:52:14,674
It was a little embarrassing,
but yet it just, you know,
849
00:52:14,675 --> 00:52:17,754
George was always having fun.
850
00:52:17,755 --> 00:52:21,034
I was getting, uh, weird letters
from crazy people.
851
00:52:21,035 --> 00:52:24,394
I got a couple of Polaroids
from this crazy guy.
852
00:52:24,395 --> 00:52:26,914
There was an arrow
through a piece of meat,
853
00:52:26,915 --> 00:52:29,834
I think it was a heart, I think
he bought a heart or something,
854
00:52:29,835 --> 00:52:33,634
some kind of big piece of meat, and
there was an arrow going through it.
855
00:52:33,635 --> 00:52:35,634
You know, and then there was like,
856
00:52:35,635 --> 00:52:38,234
one with a knife and blood dripping,
and that was
857
00:52:38,235 --> 00:52:43,235
right about the time that I, uh,
had bars put on our windows.
858
00:52:44,395 --> 00:52:46,354
George stepped back.
859
00:52:46,355 --> 00:52:53,514
And that step back to me means
that he got very heavily into drugs
860
00:52:53,515 --> 00:52:58,515
and things, which, I don't know
the reason why that happened.
861
00:53:15,675 --> 00:53:18,394
** What I feel **
862
00:53:18,395 --> 00:53:22,154
** I can't say I can't say **
863
00:53:22,155 --> 00:53:28,435
** My love is there for you every
time of day **
864
00:53:30,315 --> 00:53:33,434
** If it's not love
If it's not love **
865
00:53:33,435 --> 00:53:37,074
** That you need
That you really, really need **
866
00:53:37,075 --> 00:53:43,035
** I try my best
to make everything succeed **
867
00:53:44,555 --> 00:53:49,714
** Tell me what is my life
without your love? **
868
00:53:49,715 --> 00:53:51,354
** Hey, man **
869
00:53:51,355 --> 00:53:56,915
** Tell me who am I without you **
870
00:53:59,275 --> 00:54:01,234
** By my side? **
871
00:54:01,235 --> 00:54:03,115
** Oh, tell me... **
872
00:54:10,155 --> 00:54:14,234
Recommended by Eric Clapton,
873
00:54:14,235 --> 00:54:19,794
Barbra Streisand and many other
top-notch singers and entertainers.
874
00:54:19,795 --> 00:54:24,914
Secret mixture of honey,
vinegar and...
875
00:54:24,915 --> 00:54:26,195
warm water.
876
00:54:31,275 --> 00:54:35,114
And your throat will never
bother you again.
877
00:54:35,115 --> 00:54:37,075
You just won't have a throat!
878
00:54:39,395 --> 00:54:43,274
But it coats what you don't have,
so they tell me.
879
00:54:43,275 --> 00:54:45,395
And...
880
00:55:59,235 --> 00:56:01,594
Hey, the ex-Beatle himself.
Get a programme!
881
00:56:01,595 --> 00:56:03,434
Hey, today's two-head programme!
882
00:56:03,435 --> 00:56:07,634
Hey, George, ex-Beatle,
Harrison programme!
883
00:56:07,635 --> 00:56:10,715
** You thought that you knew
where I was and when **
884
00:56:11,995 --> 00:56:14,995
** It looks like you've been
foolin' you again **
885
00:56:17,035 --> 00:56:20,195
** You thought that you had got me
all staked out **
886
00:56:21,875 --> 00:56:25,955
** But, baby, looks like
I've been breaking out **
887
00:56:27,355 --> 00:56:29,955
** I'm a dark horse **
888
00:56:32,595 --> 00:56:35,035
** I'm running on a
dark race course **
889
00:56:36,675 --> 00:56:39,915
** And now I'm a blue moon **
890
00:56:42,235 --> 00:56:45,275
** Since I stepped out of the womb **
891
00:56:47,235 --> 00:56:49,715
** I've been a cool jerk **
892
00:56:52,795 --> 00:56:55,035
** Looking for the source **
893
00:56:56,875 --> 00:56:59,875
** I'm a dark horse. **
894
00:57:02,915 --> 00:57:04,594
The critics were brutal.
895
00:57:04,595 --> 00:57:07,354
I remember that about Ravi
opening the show
896
00:57:07,355 --> 00:57:11,434
and then about George's voice
being gone and shot.
897
00:57:11,435 --> 00:57:13,655
Yeah, it probably, his
voice probably was
898
00:57:13,656 --> 00:57:15,874
very weak or, you
know, and beat-up.
899
00:57:15,875 --> 00:57:19,594
And maybe a lot of people
they saw bored with the Indian set.
900
00:57:19,595 --> 00:57:21,575
But that did not deter George.
901
00:57:21,576 --> 00:57:23,554
And, by the way, not
everybody was bored with it.
902
00:57:23,555 --> 00:57:26,594
And not everybody thought
that his voice sounded horrible.
903
00:57:26,595 --> 00:57:29,194
They just loved hearing those songs
and him trying...
904
00:57:29,195 --> 00:57:31,034
to deliver them the best he could.
905
00:57:31,035 --> 00:57:35,634
My next move will be
Madison Square Garden.
906
00:57:35,635 --> 00:57:39,034
After that,
I'll go back to the hotel,
907
00:57:39,035 --> 00:57:41,514
then it'll be
Madison Square Garden again.
908
00:57:41,515 --> 00:57:43,074
** Baby, looks like you...**
909
00:57:43,075 --> 00:57:46,635
After that, I'll probably just
collapse. I don't know.
910
00:57:53,275 --> 00:57:54,594
He liked the moon.
911
00:57:54,595 --> 00:57:58,354
You know, if the wind was blowing
and the full moon was up,
912
00:57:58,355 --> 00:58:01,674
he'd put on Bing Crosby singing
Sweet Leilani
913
00:58:01,675 --> 00:58:05,514
and just make the moment
even better.
914
00:58:05,515 --> 00:58:08,114
And then he might hand you
a gardenia.
915
00:58:08,115 --> 00:58:12,074
He just painted life like that.
916
00:58:12,075 --> 00:58:16,035
He drew all the elements in.
He was a very sensual person.
917
00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:22,434
Sensual in the way that whatever you
ate had to have a flavour.
918
00:58:22,435 --> 00:58:25,314
You know, had to have some
special flavour.
919
00:58:25,315 --> 00:58:30,154
If there was a flower,
he wanted it to smell or be bright.
920
00:58:30,155 --> 00:58:33,034
When I first met him, he said,
"I don't want you to think
921
00:58:33,035 --> 00:58:35,874
"you've discovered
something about me I don't know.
922
00:58:35,875 --> 00:58:39,195
"I'm not claiming to be this
or that or anything.
923
00:58:40,475 --> 00:58:44,995
"People think they've found you out
when I'm not hiding anything."
924
00:58:47,355 --> 00:58:51,914
For whatever his, you know,
faults were, and his...
925
00:58:51,915 --> 00:58:53,754
He had karma to work out.
926
00:58:53,755 --> 00:58:56,674
And he wasn't going to come back
and be bad.
927
00:58:56,675 --> 00:59:00,194
He was going to be good and bad
and loving and angry
928
00:59:00,195 --> 00:59:02,034
and everything all at once.
929
00:59:02,035 --> 00:59:05,674
You know, if someone said to you
"OK, you can go through your life
930
00:59:05,675 --> 00:59:08,234
"and you can have
everything in five lifetimes,
931
00:59:08,235 --> 00:59:11,154
"or you can have a really intense
one and have it in one,
932
00:59:11,155 --> 00:59:13,234
"and then you can go
and be liberated",
933
00:59:13,235 --> 00:59:16,634
he would've said, "Give me the one.
I'm not coming back here."
934
00:59:16,635 --> 00:59:18,714
I thought he was really...
935
00:59:18,715 --> 00:59:22,074
somebody who was saying something
that I connected with.
936
00:59:22,075 --> 00:59:24,114
He was really a very
captivating person.
937
00:59:24,115 --> 00:59:26,714
And we seemed, he was working.
938
00:59:26,715 --> 00:59:29,314
And I liked, uh, you know,
I liked the music.
939
00:59:29,315 --> 00:59:32,914
I liked what he was doing.
We just seemed like partners...
940
00:59:32,915 --> 00:59:34,955
from the very beginning.
941
00:59:36,995 --> 00:59:38,795
Jim Keltner's here? Yeah.
942
00:59:40,155 --> 00:59:42,554
About how long does it look like?
943
00:59:42,555 --> 00:59:45,034
About three minutes. Good.
944
00:59:45,035 --> 00:59:48,394
** Everyone has choice **
945
00:59:48,395 --> 00:59:52,954
** When to or not
to raise their voices **
946
00:59:52,955 --> 00:59:55,474
** It's you that decides **
947
00:59:55,475 --> 00:59:58,314
** Which way you will turn **
948
00:59:58,315 --> 01:00:02,275
** While feeling that our love's
not your concern **
949
01:00:03,555 --> 01:00:05,435
** It's you that decides **
950
01:00:06,875 --> 01:00:12,594
** No-one around you
will carry the blame for you **
951
01:00:12,595 --> 01:00:14,634
** No-one around you **
952
01:00:14,635 --> 01:00:18,594
** Will love you today
and throw it all away **
953
01:00:18,595 --> 01:00:20,874
** Tomorrow when you rise...**
954
01:00:20,875 --> 01:00:25,954
'There was this amazing sunset.
Just orange sky.'
955
01:00:25,955 --> 01:00:29,475
And he said,
"That is what I want to do."
956
01:00:31,475 --> 01:00:35,594
Now...somebody might say, "What?"
957
01:00:35,595 --> 01:00:37,674
You know, "What do you want to do?"
958
01:00:37,675 --> 01:00:42,794
What? He wanted to make, he wanted
to be able to create that sunset.
959
01:00:42,795 --> 01:00:44,195
When we were first on tour,
960
01:00:44,196 --> 01:00:47,234
and we were in customs and they were
going through my baggage,
961
01:00:47,235 --> 01:00:50,074
I hadn't revealed anything to
George, really.
962
01:00:50,075 --> 01:00:52,115
They're going
through my handbag.
963
01:00:52,116 --> 01:00:54,154
He said, "Oh, you've got
that book, do you..?"
964
01:00:54,155 --> 01:00:56,595
He was like going through
my bag with the customs.
965
01:00:56,596 --> 01:00:59,034
"You read that, you've read that.
That's good."
966
01:00:59,035 --> 01:01:02,275
He was approving of...
967
01:01:03,395 --> 01:01:06,034
..of my journey,
968
01:01:06,035 --> 01:01:13,994
and he, I think, considered himself a
bit of an expert on spiritual matters.
969
01:01:13,995 --> 01:01:16,234
Yeah, we had our differences.
970
01:01:16,235 --> 01:01:19,034
I might have done a different
technique than he did.
971
01:01:19,035 --> 01:01:20,634
But we both had the same goal.
972
01:01:20,635 --> 01:01:25,634
And I think that was really the key
to everything in our lives.
973
01:01:25,635 --> 01:01:30,594
He had this ability to bottom line
everything by pulling focus
974
01:01:30,595 --> 01:01:33,994
and showing you the cosmic
world of this galaxy
975
01:01:33,995 --> 01:01:37,474
and there you were suddenly,
just this little person
976
01:01:37,475 --> 01:01:40,794
with his own little problems,
fretting away on the surface.
977
01:01:40,795 --> 01:01:44,114
So, I had heard a little
about George, uh, liking Python,
978
01:01:44,115 --> 01:01:46,834
and I'd been a bit wary
because, you know...
979
01:01:46,835 --> 01:01:49,834
I don't want to know about
somebody famous, you know.
980
01:01:49,835 --> 01:01:51,954
We had the screening of
The Holy Grail
981
01:01:51,955 --> 01:01:54,075
and it went really well
and suddenly there
982
01:01:54,076 --> 01:01:56,194
he was, going "Well,
this is fucking great."
983
01:01:56,195 --> 01:01:57,914
And he said, "Let's go upstairs."
984
01:01:57,915 --> 01:02:02,074
And then we started a dialogue
which went on for about 48 hours.
985
01:02:02,075 --> 01:02:05,834
It was extraordinary.
I mean, it was like bla, bla, bla...
986
01:02:05,835 --> 01:02:09,954
Well, George was very fond
of Rutland Weekend Television.
987
01:02:09,955 --> 01:02:14,314
On Rutland Weekend Television, we
did a send-up called The Rutles.
988
01:02:14,315 --> 01:02:16,354
It was like a Hard Day's Rut.
989
01:02:16,355 --> 01:02:18,434
We were on Abbey Road filming.
990
01:02:18,435 --> 01:02:21,754
And I'm dressed as...Paul.
991
01:02:21,755 --> 01:02:29,114
And then Neil was dressed
as John with a huge big beard.
992
01:02:29,115 --> 01:02:33,234
And we're there, we're on Abbey Road,
and these people, "You're the Beatles!
993
01:02:33,235 --> 01:02:35,754
"You're the Beatles!"
It's 20 years later, you know.
994
01:02:35,755 --> 01:02:39,434
"You think they're still here?"
But George is standing with us,
995
01:02:39,435 --> 01:02:42,474
and they don't recognise him.
He's laughing his ass off.
996
01:02:42,475 --> 01:02:46,594
We're getting signed autographs,
and they don't notice it's George.
997
01:02:46,595 --> 01:02:51,354
Existence is kind of funny
because of our temporality.
998
01:02:51,355 --> 01:02:54,074
Here we go round pretending
to be kings and emperors,
999
01:02:54,075 --> 01:02:57,354
and you're going to die.
You're in a box in a minute or two.
1000
01:02:57,355 --> 01:03:01,794
So we are constantly
undercut by our own physicality,
1001
01:03:01,795 --> 01:03:05,234
our own physical bodies,
which let us down.
1002
01:03:05,235 --> 01:03:07,274
And you find all these evangelicals,
1003
01:03:07,275 --> 01:03:10,194
and suddenly they're having
gay sex in Aspen.
1004
01:03:10,195 --> 01:03:12,874
"Oh, this body's letting me
down all the time."
1005
01:03:12,875 --> 01:03:14,594
that's what makes us funny.
1006
01:03:14,595 --> 01:03:17,874
George's grounding in what was...
1007
01:03:17,875 --> 01:03:21,474
both true and what was, he would
test things by what made him laugh
1008
01:03:21,475 --> 01:03:24,234
or what was close to his heart.
1009
01:03:24,235 --> 01:03:27,114
I've always been surprised
Python's proved to be
1010
01:03:27,115 --> 01:03:32,114
as long living as it has,
cos we were just having fun,
1011
01:03:32,115 --> 01:03:35,274
just like they were having fun.
We were entertaining ourselves.
1012
01:03:35,275 --> 01:03:38,074
We weren't thinking about
the audience.
1013
01:03:38,075 --> 01:03:41,274
It's like John Lennon said, "You're
still fucking peasants to me."
1014
01:03:41,275 --> 01:03:44,634
Certain things... There was a kind
of arrogance there that...
1015
01:03:44,635 --> 01:03:46,874
you're not out there to,
you know,
1016
01:03:46,875 --> 01:03:50,234
want to be loved so desperately
that you'll do anything.
1017
01:03:50,235 --> 01:03:51,594
It's about...
1018
01:03:51,595 --> 01:03:55,114
maintaining your own integrity
and your own view of the world,
1019
01:03:55,115 --> 01:03:57,954
whatever that is,
and trying to be truthful about it.
1020
01:03:57,955 --> 01:03:59,994
We'd written Life of Brian.
1021
01:03:59,995 --> 01:04:03,714
We had EMI putting up the money
for the movie.
1022
01:04:03,715 --> 01:04:07,354
We had designed it.
We were heading out on the Saturday
1023
01:04:07,355 --> 01:04:11,234
with the crew to Tunisia
to start building.
1024
01:04:11,235 --> 01:04:13,474
And on Thursday, we get a call.
1025
01:04:13,475 --> 01:04:16,834
And Lord Delfont -
Bernie to his friends...
1026
01:04:16,835 --> 01:04:18,975
had finally got around to
reading the script apparently.
1027
01:04:18,976 --> 01:04:21,114
He hadn't read it before.
1028
01:04:21,115 --> 01:04:23,034
He was shocked and horrified,
1029
01:04:23,035 --> 01:04:25,275
and said, "There's no
way EMI's going to
1030
01:04:25,276 --> 01:04:27,514
be involved in this
blasphemous filth."
1031
01:04:27,515 --> 01:04:30,034
And pulled the plug on the Thursday.
1032
01:04:30,035 --> 01:04:31,674
And we were dead.
1033
01:04:31,675 --> 01:04:34,434
I'd be calling George and he said,
"No, I'll pay for it."
1034
01:04:34,435 --> 01:04:37,794
So I thought, yeah! All the time
he said, "No, I'll take care of it."
1035
01:04:37,795 --> 01:04:42,314
And I thought, yeah.
We were looking for 4 million,
1036
01:04:42,315 --> 01:04:44,634
and nobody has that
amount of money, you know.
1037
01:04:44,635 --> 01:04:48,754
Eventually, when we got to California,
George says, "I've figured it out.
1038
01:04:48,755 --> 01:04:53,234
"We're going to create a company and
we're going to give you the money."
1039
01:04:53,235 --> 01:04:57,434
And it's 4 million
and he'd mortgaged his house
1040
01:04:57,435 --> 01:05:01,554
to put up the money for this movie,
because he wanted to see it.
1041
01:05:01,555 --> 01:05:05,034
Which is still the most anybody's
ever paid for a cinema ticket.
1042
01:05:05,035 --> 01:05:06,954
Thank God you've come, Reg.
1043
01:05:06,955 --> 01:05:09,295
I think I should point out
first, in all fairness,
1044
01:05:09,296 --> 01:05:11,634
that we are not, in fact,
the rescue committee.
1045
01:05:11,635 --> 01:05:14,135
However, I have been asked
to read the following
1046
01:05:14,136 --> 01:05:16,634
prepared statement on
behalf of the movement.
1047
01:05:16,635 --> 01:05:20,194
"We the People's Front of Judea,
brackets, officials, end brackets
1048
01:05:20,195 --> 01:05:22,515
"do hereby convey our
sincere fraternal
1049
01:05:22,516 --> 01:05:24,834
and sisterly greetings
to you, Brian,
1050
01:05:24,835 --> 01:05:27,474
"on this, the occasion
of your martyrdom."
1051
01:05:27,475 --> 01:05:30,114
What?! Goodbye, Brian. And thanks.
1052
01:05:30,115 --> 01:05:35,114
If you care about what constitutes
what we call western civilisation
1053
01:05:35,115 --> 01:05:38,114
and which now
probably is coming to an end,
1054
01:05:38,115 --> 01:05:42,274
and you were to consider the role
that's been played in that,
1055
01:05:42,275 --> 01:05:46,634
by this thing that you
treat as a piece of buffoonery,
1056
01:05:46,635 --> 01:05:50,514
you would have a
certain humility in saying
1057
01:05:50,515 --> 01:05:55,474
that you have been able,
through making it, to shed light.
1058
01:05:55,475 --> 01:05:59,954
What we're saying is take a critical
view, find out about it.
1059
01:05:59,955 --> 01:06:02,674
Don't just believe
because somebody tells you to.
1060
01:06:02,675 --> 01:06:05,314
Somebody in the pulpit says
something, question it.
1061
01:06:05,315 --> 01:06:09,514
You keep making the basic assumption
that we are ridiculing Christ
1062
01:06:09,515 --> 01:06:13,514
and Christ's teaching.
And I say that we are not.
1063
01:06:13,515 --> 01:06:17,234
Would you imagine your scene, for
instance, the sermon on the mount,
1064
01:06:17,235 --> 01:06:20,834
the scene in your film of
The Sermon on the Mount... Right.
1065
01:06:20,835 --> 01:06:23,874
..is not ridiculing one of the most
sublime utterances
1066
01:06:23,875 --> 01:06:27,794
that any human being has ever spoken
on this Earth? Of course it is.
1067
01:06:27,795 --> 01:06:31,554
A lot of people looking in will think
we have actually ridiculed Christ...
1068
01:06:31,555 --> 01:06:34,714
Yes...physically. Christ is
played by an actor, Ken Colley.
1069
01:06:34,715 --> 01:06:37,495
He speaks the words from
the sermon on the mount.
1070
01:06:37,496 --> 01:06:40,274
It's treated absolutely
respectfully.
1071
01:06:40,275 --> 01:06:42,595
The camera pans away,
we go right to the back
1072
01:06:42,596 --> 01:06:44,914
of the crowd to someone
who shouts "Speak up!"
1073
01:06:44,915 --> 01:06:48,434
Because they cannot hear him.
Now if that utterly... No...
1074
01:06:48,435 --> 01:06:50,915
..undermines one's faith
in Christ, then I
1075
01:06:50,916 --> 01:06:53,394
think their faith cannot
be terribly strong.
1076
01:06:53,395 --> 01:06:56,794
I think he enjoyed
the scandal of the whole thing.
1077
01:06:56,795 --> 01:07:00,114
He pretended not to, but I think
when you actually can alienate
1078
01:07:00,115 --> 01:07:02,575
Protestants, Catholics
and Jews all at one
1079
01:07:02,576 --> 01:07:05,034
go, you know, you're
doing something.
1080
01:07:05,035 --> 01:07:06,435
** Let me in here **
1081
01:07:07,435 --> 01:07:09,075
** I know I've been here **
1082
01:07:10,995 --> 01:07:18,995
** Let me into your heart **
1083
01:07:20,595 --> 01:07:22,075
** Let me know you **
1084
01:07:23,315 --> 01:07:26,434
** Let me show you **
1085
01:07:26,435 --> 01:07:34,315
** Let me roll it to you **
1086
01:07:35,795 --> 01:07:38,435
** All I have is yours **
1087
01:07:41,475 --> 01:07:46,314
** All you see is mine **
1088
01:07:46,315 --> 01:07:50,794
** And I'm glad to hold you
in my arms **
1089
01:07:50,795 --> 01:07:55,475
** I'd have you any time... **
1090
01:07:58,595 --> 01:08:01,394
When we were editing
Life of Brian
1091
01:08:01,395 --> 01:08:05,314
and we just had a screening,
and George was there,
1092
01:08:05,315 --> 01:08:08,154
and we then had a meeting
afterwards with all of us,
1093
01:08:08,155 --> 01:08:11,834
Denis O'Brien, who was our manager,
George and his manager at the time,
1094
01:08:11,835 --> 01:08:15,314
and George and it was
a shocking moment for him
1095
01:08:15,315 --> 01:08:18,114
because there we were
disagreeing about everything.
1096
01:08:18,115 --> 01:08:20,555
We were arguing what
should stay in, what
1097
01:08:20,556 --> 01:08:22,994
should go out, what was
working, what didn't
1098
01:08:22,995 --> 01:08:25,234
And I think he was
genuinely disturbed
1099
01:08:25,235 --> 01:08:28,074
and I think it was the last meeting
he ever came to
1100
01:08:28,075 --> 01:08:30,115
of the group cos I
think after, I think
1101
01:08:30,116 --> 01:08:32,154
he wanted to believe
in something.
1102
01:08:32,155 --> 01:08:35,634
He may talk about the spirit
of the Beatles going into Python,
1103
01:08:35,635 --> 01:08:38,554
but I don't think he wanted
the divisive nature of the spirit.
1104
01:08:38,555 --> 01:08:41,034
In 1979 I'd finished...
1105
01:08:41,035 --> 01:08:44,594
a two-man tour with Elton John.
1106
01:08:44,595 --> 01:08:48,714
And, as always
when George was around in my life,
1107
01:08:48,715 --> 01:08:50,634
the phone would ring.
1108
01:08:50,635 --> 01:08:53,634
"What are you doing?"
I said, "Well, I'm not doing a lot."
1109
01:08:53,635 --> 01:08:57,554
And he said, "Well, I think
I've got a film company."
1110
01:08:57,555 --> 01:09:00,194
He said,
"You know all these theatre people,
1111
01:09:00,195 --> 01:09:03,794
"and you love all that stuff,
why don't you be me in the office?"
1112
01:09:03,795 --> 01:09:06,234
And it was as simple
a statement as that.
1113
01:09:06,235 --> 01:09:08,035
I said, "When can we start?
" He said, "I've started.
1114
01:09:08,036 --> 01:09:09,834
Life Of Brian's on its way.
1115
01:09:09,835 --> 01:09:12,714
"We're thinking about the
next one, called Time Bandits.
1116
01:09:12,715 --> 01:09:15,594
"There's this madman called
Terry Gilliam, you know.
1117
01:09:15,595 --> 01:09:17,535
"You'll love him.
" I said, "I know Terry.
1118
01:09:17,536 --> 01:09:19,474
" "I thought you
might know him,"
1119
01:09:19,475 --> 01:09:21,034
And off we went.
1120
01:09:21,035 --> 01:09:24,154
HandMade was called HandMade
because we were handmade.
1121
01:09:24,155 --> 01:09:26,194
Everything was done in-house,
1122
01:09:26,195 --> 01:09:29,434
including, er, quite
a lot of the marketing strategy.
1123
01:09:29,435 --> 01:09:31,755
We designed posters because
we had people like
1124
01:09:31,756 --> 01:09:34,074
Terry Gilliam who would
do those designs.
1125
01:09:34,075 --> 01:09:36,555
We had people like Michael Palin
and Derek Taylor,
1126
01:09:36,556 --> 01:09:39,274
who would come up with great
by-lines, all in-house.
1127
01:09:39,275 --> 01:09:41,595
So this was again,
this was like a giant
1128
01:09:41,596 --> 01:09:43,914
band, and George loved
being in a band.
1129
01:09:43,915 --> 01:09:46,354
He missed The Beatles.
He missed his mates.
1130
01:09:46,355 --> 01:09:48,274
He missed working with people.
1131
01:09:48,275 --> 01:09:52,835
He was a great collaborator.
He loved being there.
1132
01:09:59,635 --> 01:10:02,834
Why is minority music important?
1133
01:10:02,835 --> 01:10:06,354
All the music that isn't really
sold in your local record store
1134
01:10:06,355 --> 01:10:10,554
in the top hundred...
Well... You're asking me?
1135
01:10:10,555 --> 01:10:13,754
Everybody on the charts gets
it from somewhere, don't they?
1136
01:10:13,755 --> 01:10:15,895
They get it from
these little guys in
1137
01:10:15,896 --> 01:10:18,034
other countries who
invented the stuff.
1138
01:10:18,035 --> 01:10:19,435
That's how I feel about it.
1139
01:10:19,436 --> 01:10:21,435
So it's important
purely so they've got
1140
01:10:21,436 --> 01:10:23,434
something to steal and
put in the charts?
1141
01:10:23,435 --> 01:10:26,195
- No, it's important...
- That's a good answer.
1142
01:10:28,875 --> 01:10:30,674
Hi, Liv. Hi.
1143
01:10:30,675 --> 01:10:36,354
So why is it important to have
all these people at our house?
1144
01:10:36,355 --> 01:10:38,235
It's important to have
to worry about lots
1145
01:10:38,236 --> 01:10:40,114
of things and make sure
everything's right.
1146
01:10:40,115 --> 01:10:43,234
And, uh, well,
it's nice to see everyone.
1147
01:10:43,235 --> 01:10:47,714
Wonderful people, good food. You
like it, don't you, after all? See?
1148
01:10:47,715 --> 01:10:49,194
Thank you. Yes.
1149
01:10:49,195 --> 01:10:51,714
I feel very strongly
about major issues.
1150
01:10:51,715 --> 01:10:53,635
I don't talk about them
an awful lot.
1151
01:10:53,636 --> 01:10:58,114
But I feel, uh,
very strongly about unfairness.
1152
01:10:58,115 --> 01:11:03,555
What do you think we should be doing
to make our lives better?
1153
01:11:51,675 --> 01:11:53,794
Thank you.
1154
01:11:53,795 --> 01:11:56,354
** Give peace a chance **
1155
01:11:56,355 --> 01:11:59,275
** All we are saying **
1156
01:12:00,555 --> 01:12:03,035
** Is give peace a chance... **
1157
01:12:04,275 --> 01:12:09,274
Mr Chapman came up behind them
and called to him Mr Lennon
1158
01:12:09,275 --> 01:12:11,594
as he arrived at that doorway.
1159
01:12:11,595 --> 01:12:14,594
And then in a combat stance,
1160
01:12:14,595 --> 01:12:20,114
he fired, he emptied the Charter Arms
38 calibre gun that he had with him
1161
01:12:20,115 --> 01:12:24,195
and...shot John Lennon.
1162
01:12:30,875 --> 01:12:35,954
** I bless the day I found you **
1163
01:12:35,955 --> 01:12:42,355
** I want to stay around you **
1164
01:12:43,515 --> 01:12:46,195
** And so I beg you **
1165
01:12:48,875 --> 01:12:51,635
** Let it be me **
1166
01:12:53,435 --> 01:12:58,395
** Don't take this heaven from one **
1167
01:13:00,635 --> 01:13:04,675
** If you must cling to someone **
1168
01:13:06,115 --> 01:13:08,435
** Now and forever **
1169
01:13:11,315 --> 01:13:14,675
** Let it be me. **
1170
01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:26,914
I wonder what you felt,
losing someone
1171
01:13:26,915 --> 01:13:30,194
who was close to
you for all those years.
1172
01:13:30,195 --> 01:13:33,234
It's like, uh, losing your parents,
1173
01:13:33,235 --> 01:13:35,674
or anybody you know and love.
1174
01:13:35,675 --> 01:13:37,994
He was no angel. He wasn't.
1175
01:13:37,995 --> 01:13:40,434
But he was, as well.
1176
01:13:40,435 --> 01:13:42,195
Was he? Yeah.
1177
01:13:44,155 --> 01:13:48,314
He was really angry that John
didn't have a chance
1178
01:13:48,315 --> 01:13:52,994
to leave his body in a better way.
1179
01:13:52,995 --> 01:13:56,634
Because George put
so much emphasis and importance
1180
01:13:56,635 --> 01:13:59,754
on the moment of death,
of leaving your body.
1181
01:13:59,755 --> 01:14:01,235
That was very, um...
1182
01:14:02,755 --> 01:14:05,835
That's really what
he was practising for.
1183
01:14:06,875 --> 01:14:09,914
It's like the
Dalai Lama said something that,
1184
01:14:09,915 --> 01:14:13,034
we really, um, made us smile.
1185
01:14:13,035 --> 01:14:15,554
He said,
"What do you do in the morning?"
1186
01:14:15,555 --> 01:14:17,754
He said, "I do my practice,
I do my mantras,
1187
01:14:17,755 --> 01:14:19,434
"I do my spiritual practice."
1188
01:14:19,435 --> 01:14:21,755
"How do you know it will work?
1189
01:14:21,756 --> 01:14:24,074
" He said, "I don't.
I'll find out when I die."
1190
01:14:24,075 --> 01:14:27,314
And, you know, it's so great.
It's like that was it.
1191
01:14:27,315 --> 01:14:30,274
I'll, I'm practising this
so that when I die I will know
1192
01:14:30,275 --> 01:14:35,474
how to leave my body and I'll be
familiar and I won't be frightened.
1193
01:14:35,475 --> 01:14:38,914
George had a maximum
amount of diversion in life.
1194
01:14:38,915 --> 01:14:42,114
And, you know, towards
the end of his life, he'd say, like,
1195
01:14:42,115 --> 01:14:45,394
I'd say, "Oh, you know they want to
give you this award thing".
1196
01:14:45,395 --> 01:14:47,554
And he said,
"Well, I don't want it.
1197
01:14:47,555 --> 01:14:50,234
"Tell them to get another monkey."
1198
01:14:50,235 --> 01:14:53,634
I'd say, "Yeah, but, you know,
it's really a nice one.
1199
01:14:53,635 --> 01:14:55,234
"You should have this."
1200
01:14:55,235 --> 01:14:59,354
And he'd say, "Well, if you want it
so bad, you go and get it."
1201
01:14:59,355 --> 01:15:01,194
You know. "I'm not going.
1202
01:15:01,195 --> 01:15:02,715
"I'm not doing that any more.
1203
01:15:05,035 --> 01:15:08,954
"Because it's just a big diversion.
"I want to plant trees.
1204
01:15:08,955 --> 01:15:11,914
"I want to be quiet.
I want to meditate."
1205
01:15:11,915 --> 01:15:14,194
And he really did draw the line.
1206
01:15:14,195 --> 01:15:16,674
And I really admired him for that.
1207
01:15:16,675 --> 01:15:21,554
I mean, I've always been intrigued
with George's "spirituality",
1208
01:15:21,555 --> 01:15:23,794
which is
absolutely essential to him.
1209
01:15:23,795 --> 01:15:25,834
You know,
living in the material world.
1210
01:15:25,835 --> 01:15:29,554
So he was caught in these two
worlds of a very spiritual world
1211
01:15:29,555 --> 01:15:31,754
and a very material world.
1212
01:15:31,755 --> 01:15:36,074
And... And they're both, I think,
related in the sense that
1213
01:15:36,075 --> 01:15:39,354
it's about finding the beauty
in the real world.
1214
01:15:39,355 --> 01:15:42,714
To make the real world
as beautiful as it can be.
1215
01:15:42,715 --> 01:15:45,474
And that's, I think,
what he was doing in...
1216
01:15:45,475 --> 01:15:47,314
in Friar Park.
1217
01:15:47,315 --> 01:15:50,554
He created such, you know,
exquisite beauty there.
1218
01:15:50,555 --> 01:15:52,754
But there was nothing
airy-fairy about it.
1219
01:15:52,755 --> 01:15:55,354
And it wasn't about somebody
snapping his fingers
1220
01:15:55,355 --> 01:15:58,675
and having somebody else do it for
him. He had to do the work.
1221
01:16:06,675 --> 01:16:09,355
OK, back up now. Back up!
1222
01:16:11,395 --> 01:16:14,114
Our friends would joke,
calling him Capability George,
1223
01:16:14,115 --> 01:16:16,194
you know,
like after Capability Brown.
1224
01:16:16,195 --> 01:16:18,554
And he'd be like, "Get that pond...
1225
01:16:18,555 --> 01:16:22,274
"put it over there,
move that hill...
1226
01:16:22,275 --> 01:16:23,874
"Don't like that hill." You know.
1227
01:16:23,875 --> 01:16:28,274
And the next week, it would be,
pond over there, hill over there.
1228
01:16:28,275 --> 01:16:30,155
And it would look better, you know.
1229
01:16:30,156 --> 01:16:32,874
And he'd garden at night-time,
he'd garden until...
1230
01:16:32,875 --> 01:16:34,434
you know, till midnight.
1231
01:16:34,435 --> 01:16:37,994
And he'd be out there squinting
cos he could see,
1232
01:16:37,995 --> 01:16:39,755
at midnight, you know, he could see
1233
01:16:39,756 --> 01:16:42,874
the kind of moonlight
and he could see the shadows.
1234
01:16:42,875 --> 01:16:47,034
And that was his way of not seeing
any of the weeds and imperfections
1235
01:16:47,035 --> 01:16:49,714
that were, you know, that would
plague him during the day.
1236
01:16:49,715 --> 01:16:52,274
So he'd be able to imagine
what it was going to look like
1237
01:16:52,275 --> 01:16:53,435
when it was done.
1238
01:17:04,875 --> 01:17:08,194
** Well, I'm alone
but that's all right... **
1239
01:17:08,195 --> 01:17:10,194
'He used to say to me every day,
1240
01:17:10,195 --> 01:17:12,834
'"You don't have to
go to school today.
1241
01:17:12,835 --> 01:17:15,634
'"Do you want to just go on
a yacht in the South Pacific
1242
01:17:15,635 --> 01:17:17,154
'"and run away forever?"'
1243
01:17:17,155 --> 01:17:19,515
** I'll be fine anywhere... **
1244
01:17:23,075 --> 01:17:25,394
'A lot of people would probably say,
1245
01:17:25,395 --> 01:17:27,474
'"You're an idiot
for not doing that."
1246
01:17:27,475 --> 01:17:29,233
'And maybe in a way I am. But I...'
1247
01:17:29,234 --> 01:17:31,195
To rebel in my family
was to go to school.
1248
01:17:31,196 --> 01:17:33,674
I went to like
a semi-military school.
1249
01:17:33,675 --> 01:17:38,914
We did CCF one day a week,
and that used to piss him off,
1250
01:17:38,915 --> 01:17:41,594
me walking around
in an Air Force uniform.
1251
01:17:41,595 --> 01:17:46,635
I was...15, and then, er...
1252
01:17:48,675 --> 01:17:51,995
..had some, er,
little run-in with some policemen.
1253
01:17:53,355 --> 01:17:57,314
And, er,
he told the policemen to fuck off!
1254
01:17:57,315 --> 01:18:01,034
And, uh, that was when I realised
that he was actually cool,
1255
01:18:01,035 --> 01:18:05,154
on my side,
and not just a scary dad, you know.
1256
01:18:05,155 --> 01:18:08,674
And, er, he was
very, very close to me after that.
1257
01:18:08,675 --> 01:18:10,634
And we kind of...
1258
01:18:10,635 --> 01:18:13,714
would run off
down the garden and hide.
1259
01:18:13,715 --> 01:18:15,955
"Don't tell your mum"
kind of stuff, you know.
1260
01:18:17,635 --> 01:18:20,754
He was really a free person
1261
01:18:20,755 --> 01:18:23,634
and he did not like to be
bound by rules.
1262
01:18:23,635 --> 01:18:28,034
But he did like women.
And he did, erm, he was...
1263
01:18:28,035 --> 01:18:32,114
Women did like him.
And he was... uh...
1264
01:18:32,115 --> 01:18:33,155
Whether...
1265
01:18:34,515 --> 01:18:38,994
If he just said a couple of words
to a woman, honestly,
1266
01:18:38,995 --> 01:18:42,154
he had a profound effect...
on people.
1267
01:18:42,155 --> 01:18:46,234
So that was always something
that was, you know...
1268
01:18:46,235 --> 01:18:49,154
And I'm not the only one who's had
to deal with this,
1269
01:18:49,155 --> 01:18:52,114
you know, person who's...
well-loved.
1270
01:18:52,115 --> 01:18:55,155
So it was always a challenge. Uh...
1271
01:18:58,155 --> 01:19:00,314
Sometimes people say, you know,
1272
01:19:00,315 --> 01:19:03,234
"What's the secret
of a long marriage?"
1273
01:19:03,235 --> 01:19:05,755
It's like, "You don't get divorced."
1274
01:19:08,995 --> 01:19:10,794
And I think, you know,
1275
01:19:10,795 --> 01:19:16,514
you go through challenges in your
marriage and here's what I found.
1276
01:19:16,515 --> 01:19:20,394
First time we had a big hiccup
in the road, I, you know,
1277
01:19:20,395 --> 01:19:22,794
you go through things,
you go, "Wow."
1278
01:19:22,795 --> 01:19:26,154
There is a reward
at the other end of it.
1279
01:19:26,155 --> 01:19:30,154
There's this incredible reward.
You love each other more.
1280
01:19:30,155 --> 01:19:32,674
You...learn something.
1281
01:19:32,675 --> 01:19:34,554
You let go of something.
1282
01:19:34,555 --> 01:19:37,994
You get...
Those hard edges get softened.
1283
01:19:37,995 --> 01:19:40,914
You know,
you're that block of stone.
1284
01:19:40,915 --> 01:19:45,714
And, you know, life shapes you
and takes away those hard edges.
1285
01:19:45,715 --> 01:19:49,154
You have kept to yourself,
in recent years.
1286
01:19:49,155 --> 01:19:53,834
This led to some wild stories about
the Howard Hughes of Henley.
1287
01:19:53,835 --> 01:19:57,234
Because I don't go discothequeing
and things like that,
1288
01:19:57,235 --> 01:20:00,514
where people hang out
with their cameras,
1289
01:20:00,515 --> 01:20:04,434
so they presumed
that I was Howard Hughes,
1290
01:20:04,435 --> 01:20:08,074
with my big fingernails and Kleenex
tissues and that kind of stuff.
1291
01:20:08,075 --> 01:20:11,154
Bottles of urine
all around the house, and, uh...
1292
01:20:11,155 --> 01:20:13,154
But I wasn't like that at all.
1293
01:20:13,155 --> 01:20:16,834
I go out all the time,
or a lot of the time, see friends,
1294
01:20:16,835 --> 01:20:18,994
have dinner, go to parties...
1295
01:20:18,995 --> 01:20:22,714
I'm even more normal than,
you know, normal people.
1296
01:20:37,235 --> 01:20:39,634
I've met you before.
1297
01:20:39,635 --> 01:20:41,575
You know, all his lines
about, "I was never
1298
01:20:41,576 --> 01:20:43,514
at a discotheque...
" Well, I wasn't.
1299
01:20:43,515 --> 01:20:45,915
We had to drag him out of
them, you know. LAUGHTER
1300
01:20:45,916 --> 01:20:49,794
Well, that was back in '64, '65.
Before the limp.
1301
01:20:49,795 --> 01:20:53,914
Yeah. No, I stopped going to 'em
around 1967, I think.
1302
01:20:53,915 --> 01:20:56,274
Yeah, I stopped in 1980.
1303
01:20:56,275 --> 01:20:59,954
What about now? What makes
you cross with each other now?
1304
01:20:59,955 --> 01:21:03,354
Well, the last time we were cross
was when George was suing me.
1305
01:21:05,035 --> 01:21:07,393
Er, the last time he calls me
was to say, "I'm going to sue you."
1306
01:21:07,394 --> 01:21:08,873
I said, "No, George,
don't be silly."
1307
01:21:08,874 --> 01:21:11,115
"No, I'm going to sue you.
I don't like what you've done."
1308
01:21:11,116 --> 01:21:13,674
Cos he wrote this song and I had
it mixed by somebody else...
1309
01:21:13,675 --> 01:21:16,154
and, er, he didn't like the mix.
1310
01:21:16,155 --> 01:21:17,475
So he was going to sue me.
1311
01:21:17,476 --> 01:21:19,194
So, in the end I have to...
1312
01:21:19,195 --> 01:21:22,794
I said, "Sue me if you want,
but I'll always love you."
1313
01:21:23,955 --> 01:21:27,634
** I don't want you **
1314
01:21:27,635 --> 01:21:31,434
** But I hate to lose you **
1315
01:21:31,435 --> 01:21:35,234
** You got me in between **
1316
01:21:35,235 --> 01:21:39,914
** The devil and the deep blue sea **
1317
01:21:39,915 --> 01:21:43,754
** I forgive you **
1318
01:21:43,755 --> 01:21:47,754
** Cos I can't forget you **
1319
01:21:47,755 --> 01:21:51,114
** You got me in between **
1320
01:21:51,115 --> 01:21:55,274
** The devil and the deep blue sea **
1321
01:21:55,275 --> 01:21:59,354
** I want to cross you off my list **
1322
01:21:59,355 --> 01:22:04,154
** But when you come
knocking at my door **
1323
01:22:04,155 --> 01:22:06,834
** Fate seems to give
my heart a twist **
1324
01:22:06,835 --> 01:22:10,515
** And I come running
back for more... **
1325
01:22:18,475 --> 01:22:19,715
'You're going very fast.
1326
01:22:19,716 --> 01:22:23,034
'You're going at the absolute
limit of the car's tyres
1327
01:22:23,035 --> 01:22:24,075
'and its suspension'
1328
01:22:24,076 --> 01:22:27,314
and you, yourself are right
on the very edge of your limit,
1329
01:22:27,315 --> 01:22:29,874
taking it to the finest point.
1330
01:22:29,875 --> 01:22:33,194
When that happens,
your senses are so strong
1331
01:22:33,195 --> 01:22:38,074
and, in my case, I relate it to
a real experience, where I went...
1332
01:22:38,075 --> 01:22:43,115
came to a corner and before I got
to the corner I smelled grass.
1333
01:22:46,715 --> 01:22:49,434
My senses were so...
1334
01:22:49,435 --> 01:22:52,434
so sharp, so exaggerated
1335
01:22:52,435 --> 01:22:56,154
that a car had gone off the road
in front of me, out of my sight.
1336
01:22:56,155 --> 01:23:00,754
My senses told me there was
something wrong. That was grass.
1337
01:23:00,755 --> 01:23:02,994
The car was on a tarmacadam road.
1338
01:23:02,995 --> 01:23:04,914
So, I immediately backed off.
1339
01:23:04,915 --> 01:23:10,074
The millisecond that you're
talking about is so small.
1340
01:23:10,075 --> 01:23:12,234
Now, that's what I think George saw
1341
01:23:12,235 --> 01:23:14,434
and that was heightened senses
to a point,
1342
01:23:14,435 --> 01:23:16,355
not only of your feel
and your touch,
1343
01:23:16,356 --> 01:23:20,194
but your feet because of the pedals,
the gas pedal, the brake pedal,
1344
01:23:20,195 --> 01:23:22,794
the sensitivity
of the function of those.
1345
01:23:22,795 --> 01:23:26,234
It's the kind of thing if George and I
talked about it, he would love that.
1346
01:23:26,235 --> 01:23:29,434
And if you listen
to a really top guitarist,
1347
01:23:29,435 --> 01:23:32,754
how he can make that guitar talk,
1348
01:23:32,755 --> 01:23:38,194
that's another heightening of senses
that is beyond the ken, the know,
1349
01:23:38,195 --> 01:23:41,354
the knowledge of any normal
man or woman.
1350
01:23:41,355 --> 01:23:46,155
George had a huge circle of friends
and I think I was kind of, er...
1351
01:23:47,395 --> 01:23:48,914
..I was just one of them, really.
1352
01:23:48,915 --> 01:23:51,015
I mean, I like to
think that there was
1353
01:23:51,016 --> 01:23:53,114
something special about
our relationship.
1354
01:23:53,115 --> 01:23:57,754
In many ways there was, but after
George died, when, you know,
1355
01:23:57,755 --> 01:23:59,834
and I, and we all got together,
1356
01:23:59,835 --> 01:24:03,514
"God," I thought, "he's got,
how do these guys all fit together?"
1357
01:24:03,515 --> 01:24:04,955
And there was a whole other mob,
1358
01:24:04,956 --> 01:24:07,114
they used to call them
the Thames Valley gang,
1359
01:24:07,115 --> 01:24:11,074
and these were all old, you know,
ageing rock stars, if you like.
1360
01:24:11,075 --> 01:24:14,194
That had, you know, got little,
nice little houses,
1361
01:24:14,195 --> 01:24:17,394
and he was... He had something
going on with everybody.
1362
01:24:17,395 --> 01:24:19,793
Anything to do with racing
and cars and motorbikes,
1363
01:24:19,794 --> 01:24:21,075
that was part of the world,
1364
01:24:21,076 --> 01:24:24,074
then there was the music side,
and then there was the movie side,
1365
01:24:24,075 --> 01:24:26,514
and then there was
the comedian side, and...
1366
01:24:26,515 --> 01:24:29,714
and there was always this
wonderful crowd of people,
1367
01:24:29,715 --> 01:24:32,274
all pretending to be grown-ups!
1368
01:24:32,275 --> 01:24:35,434
That's what was really funny about
it and we all just giggled a lot,
1369
01:24:35,435 --> 01:24:37,915
because, look at this,
and we're all in this place.
1370
01:24:37,916 --> 01:24:41,314
He showed up one day and he came
in with two ukuleles
1371
01:24:41,315 --> 01:24:42,634
and he gave me one.
1372
01:24:42,635 --> 01:24:46,714
He goes, "You gotta play this
thing, it's great," you know,
1373
01:24:46,715 --> 01:24:47,915
"let's jam," you know.
1374
01:24:47,916 --> 01:24:51,794
And I said, "I have no idea
how to play a ukulele."
1375
01:24:51,795 --> 01:24:56,074
"Ah, it's no problem,
I'll show you," you know.
1376
01:24:56,075 --> 01:25:00,194
So we spent the rest of the day
playing ukuleles
1377
01:25:00,195 --> 01:25:03,074
and, I mean, playing ukuleles...
1378
01:25:03,075 --> 01:25:05,514
Strolling around the yard
playing ukulele...
1379
01:25:05,515 --> 01:25:07,874
my wrist hurt the next day!
1380
01:25:07,875 --> 01:25:10,154
But he taught me how
to play it, you know,
1381
01:25:10,155 --> 01:25:13,514
and I learned the chord formations.
1382
01:25:13,515 --> 01:25:16,514
And when he was going, I walked
out to the car and he said,
1383
01:25:16,515 --> 01:25:18,794
"Well, wait, I want to...
1384
01:25:18,795 --> 01:25:21,514
"I want to leave
some ukuleles here."
1385
01:25:21,515 --> 01:25:23,275
And he'd already given
me one, you know,
1386
01:25:23,276 --> 01:25:26,034
I said, "Well, I've got thi..."
"No, we may need more."
1387
01:25:28,475 --> 01:25:30,354
And he opened his trunk and he...
1388
01:25:30,355 --> 01:25:33,115
he had a lot of ukuleles
in the trunk.
1389
01:25:34,235 --> 01:25:37,234
And I think he left
four at my house
1390
01:25:37,235 --> 01:25:41,074
and he said, "Well, you know, you
never know when we might need 'em
1391
01:25:41,075 --> 01:25:43,594
"because everybody doesn't
carry one around."
1392
01:25:43,595 --> 01:25:47,594
** Yippie yi yaaaay **
1393
01:25:47,595 --> 01:25:52,634
** Yippie yi ohhhhh **
1394
01:25:52,635 --> 01:26:00,234
** Ghost riders in the sky... **
1395
01:26:00,235 --> 01:26:04,234
'He and Jeff had kind of pictured
this group, The Traveling Wilburys, '
1396
01:26:04,235 --> 01:26:09,474
and George's idea was that he would
hand-pick everybody in the band
1397
01:26:09,475 --> 01:26:12,594
and it'd be the perfect little band,
1398
01:26:12,595 --> 01:26:15,555
but I think the
qualifications were
1399
01:26:15,556 --> 01:26:18,514
more about who you
could hang out with,
1400
01:26:18,515 --> 01:26:21,415
you know, more so
than, like, trying to
1401
01:26:21,416 --> 01:26:24,314
find the best guy that
did this or that.
1402
01:26:24,315 --> 01:26:28,954
Though George liked to surround
himself with people that were good...
1403
01:26:28,955 --> 01:26:30,354
at something, you know.
1404
01:26:30,355 --> 01:26:35,394
George rang my bell one night
and came in and said,
1405
01:26:35,395 --> 01:26:40,194
"God, I just had dinner with
Roy Orbison and Jeff," you know.
1406
01:26:40,195 --> 01:26:44,194
"I got this idea, I've got
to do an extra side...
1407
01:26:44,195 --> 01:26:46,634
"for a single that
I'm bringing out.
1408
01:26:46,635 --> 01:26:50,554
"I need a studio,
so I called Bob Dylan, and...
1409
01:26:50,555 --> 01:26:53,594
"You know, Bob has a little
studio out at his house
1410
01:26:53,595 --> 01:26:57,194
"and so he's agreed
to let me use the studio.
1411
01:26:57,195 --> 01:26:59,754
"I'm going to try to write
something tonight
1412
01:26:59,755 --> 01:27:02,274
"and we'd just do it, but I thought
I'd have Roy on it, too,
1413
01:27:02,275 --> 01:27:05,914
"and if you want, you know,
maybe you'd come too."
1414
01:27:05,915 --> 01:27:09,834
And I said, "Yeah, well,
I'd love to come."
1415
01:27:09,835 --> 01:27:13,195
** Been beat up and battered around **
1416
01:27:14,235 --> 01:27:17,794
** Been sent up
and I've been shot down **
1417
01:27:17,795 --> 01:27:22,874
** You're the best thing that
I've ever found **
1418
01:27:22,875 --> 01:27:26,474
** Handle me with care **
1419
01:27:26,475 --> 01:27:30,594
** I'm so tired of being lonely **
1420
01:27:30,595 --> 01:27:34,634
** I still have some love to give **
1421
01:27:34,635 --> 01:27:40,195
** Won't you show me
that you really care? **
1422
01:27:42,635 --> 01:27:46,834
** Everybody's got somebody **
1423
01:27:46,835 --> 01:27:49,714
** To lean on... **
1424
01:27:49,715 --> 01:27:52,914
'Bob said, "Well, what's it going
to be called, George?
1425
01:27:52,915 --> 01:27:55,154
'"You gotta have a name
for your song."'
1426
01:27:55,155 --> 01:27:58,794
And there was a packing crate
that said, "Handle With Care,"
1427
01:27:58,795 --> 01:28:03,234
and...I witnessed him look over
at the crate and look back and say,
1428
01:28:03,235 --> 01:28:05,594
"Oh, it's Handle With Care."
1429
01:28:07,035 --> 01:28:10,834
So, we cut the track and then
we took a break to eat and...
1430
01:28:10,835 --> 01:28:14,674
he said, "OK, well, now we gotta
write some words, guys."
1431
01:28:14,675 --> 01:28:17,554
You know, "I got these
songwriters here...
1432
01:28:17,555 --> 01:28:21,554
"Time to write a song," you know,
"let's write one," you know.
1433
01:28:21,555 --> 01:28:24,434
So, everyone...
1434
01:28:24,435 --> 01:28:27,874
Everyone'd just throw a line out
and you'd get, "No!",
1435
01:28:27,875 --> 01:28:30,634
or, you know, sometimes a line'd
come out and you'd get,
1436
01:28:30,635 --> 01:28:33,554
"Woo, that's good,
that's a good one. Oh, I like that."
1437
01:28:33,555 --> 01:28:35,995
You know, and, so
that's how we did it.
1438
01:28:39,675 --> 01:28:41,395
** It was in Pittsburgh **
1439
01:28:42,795 --> 01:28:44,115
** Late one night **
1440
01:28:45,235 --> 01:28:46,595
** I lost my hat **
1441
01:28:48,155 --> 01:28:50,075
** Got into a fight. **
1442
01:28:51,995 --> 01:28:54,154
OK. That's sort of like...
1443
01:28:54,155 --> 01:28:57,194
Yeah? Yeah, if you ignore those
chords, then just sing it over,
1444
01:28:57,195 --> 01:28:59,834
the same sort of phrasing over the
next bit, we can change the chord.
1445
01:28:59,835 --> 01:29:01,954
Or, or if he...
1446
01:29:01,955 --> 01:29:03,435
Or the other thing would be,
1447
01:29:03,436 --> 01:29:06,074
you know, if we back it up now,
don't play you that
1448
01:29:06,075 --> 01:29:08,553
and you sing the second off the
lyrics of the same chords
1449
01:29:08,554 --> 01:29:10,513
and we'll copy it
and put in, all right?
1450
01:29:10,514 --> 01:29:11,755
All right. Yeah, do that. Yeah.
1451
01:29:11,756 --> 01:29:14,874
That'll be... Yeah. Let's try that
then... Yeah, that sounded good...
1452
01:29:14,875 --> 01:29:19,394
You could have chosen to retire
into contented middle age
1453
01:29:19,395 --> 01:29:23,274
and get together with a few friends
in the musical business
1454
01:29:23,275 --> 01:29:25,394
and play together occasionally.
1455
01:29:25,395 --> 01:29:29,874
Well, that's what the real
reason is! Really.
1456
01:29:29,875 --> 01:29:31,794
Contented middle age?
1457
01:29:31,795 --> 01:29:33,235
Yeah, I suppose so.
1458
01:29:34,955 --> 01:29:36,714
** Everybody loves your **
1459
01:29:36,715 --> 01:29:38,554
** Electric dumplings **
1460
01:29:38,555 --> 01:29:41,434
** He loves your
Clothes that stretch **
1461
01:29:41,435 --> 01:29:42,475
** He loves your **
1462
01:29:42,476 --> 01:29:44,034
** Fuel injection **
1463
01:29:44,035 --> 01:29:45,115
** He loves your **
1464
01:29:45,116 --> 01:29:46,994
** Service charge **
1465
01:29:46,995 --> 01:29:48,035
** He loves your **
1466
01:29:48,036 --> 01:29:49,914
** Five-speed gearbox **
1467
01:29:49,915 --> 01:29:52,354
** He loves your
Long endurance **
1468
01:29:52,355 --> 01:29:53,435
** He loves your **
1469
01:29:53,436 --> 01:29:55,274
** Quest for junk food **
1470
01:29:55,275 --> 01:29:56,355
** He loves your **
1471
01:29:56,356 --> 01:29:58,354
** Big refrigerator. **
1472
01:29:58,355 --> 01:30:00,194
That was all right. It was OK.
1473
01:30:00,195 --> 01:30:02,914
I'm not mad about,
"clothes that stretch."
1474
01:30:02,915 --> 01:30:06,074
It sounds very English,
** Clothes that stretch. **
1475
01:30:07,235 --> 01:30:10,834
It's a bit of a joke,
the idea of a comeback, you know.
1476
01:30:10,835 --> 01:30:12,755
Especially to me, you know. Seems...
1477
01:30:12,756 --> 01:30:16,154
Why? I don't know, because
I don't really see myself
1478
01:30:16,155 --> 01:30:21,514
as a fully-fledged showbiz star,
anyway, you know, like that.
1479
01:30:21,515 --> 01:30:25,354
George, why do you play music?
1480
01:30:25,355 --> 01:30:28,354
Why do you still play music?
Just to enjoy? Yeah.
1481
01:30:28,355 --> 01:30:32,234
Now, just, well, we gotta do
something, you know, with our lives.
1482
01:30:32,235 --> 01:30:37,394
Yeah. That's the one thing that I
know what to do, you know, how to do.
1483
01:30:37,395 --> 01:30:40,394
Hello, Neil, how are you?
Hello, George. Very well, thank you.
1484
01:30:40,395 --> 01:30:42,755
Nice to see you. Very nice.
1485
01:30:44,115 --> 01:30:45,915
Hello!
Oh, a vegetarian leather jacket!
1486
01:30:47,715 --> 01:30:49,474
Yeah? Yes.
1487
01:30:49,475 --> 01:30:51,874
Oh, is that a filmer?
Yeah, I've got you!
1488
01:30:51,875 --> 01:30:54,034
Oh, I've seen that,
that's the one I can see.
1489
01:30:54,035 --> 01:30:55,913
Go on, turn it off.
You know, I can see...
1490
01:30:55,914 --> 01:30:57,315
No, I don't want to turn it off!
1491
01:30:57,316 --> 01:31:00,834
I've seen that, Sharp, you know,
I've seen the adverts for those.
1492
01:31:00,835 --> 01:31:03,834
And who is this? It's Stephan.
It's John. Oh, is it?
1493
01:31:03,835 --> 01:31:06,233
John Lennon, of the Beatles.
Oh, that's what's her name.
1494
01:31:06,234 --> 01:31:08,075
Pat! Pat! Who's this?
Cilla's friend.
1495
01:31:08,076 --> 01:31:10,834
We don't know who that is. Ho-ho-ho!
Some other lady, lady of the night!
1496
01:31:10,835 --> 01:31:13,154
They were horrible girls,
weren't they?
1497
01:31:13,155 --> 01:31:16,914
No, George, it's a very fine leg,
it's a nice bit of stocking top!
1498
01:31:16,915 --> 01:31:19,515
Hmm. Just cos you've
graduated in the world.
1499
01:31:21,035 --> 01:31:22,515
They're fine ladies!
1500
01:31:24,355 --> 01:31:29,954
** Ahh Ahh **
1501
01:31:29,955 --> 01:31:31,955
** Ahh Ahh. **
1502
01:31:38,995 --> 01:31:40,394
'You know, they say,
1503
01:31:40,395 --> 01:31:44,114
'in this life you have to perfect
one human relationship
1504
01:31:44,115 --> 01:31:46,034
'in order to really love God.'
1505
01:31:46,035 --> 01:31:50,034
You practise loving God
by loving another human
1506
01:31:50,035 --> 01:31:53,714
and by giving unconditional love.
1507
01:31:53,715 --> 01:31:56,314
George's most important
relationships
1508
01:31:56,315 --> 01:31:59,674
really were conducted
through their...
1509
01:31:59,675 --> 01:32:00,914
their music
1510
01:32:00,915 --> 01:32:06,154
and their lyrics.
I mean, George, er...
1511
01:32:06,155 --> 01:32:07,555
that's, I'd Have You Anytime,
1512
01:32:07,556 --> 01:32:10,354
the song that George
and Bob wrote together, you know,
1513
01:32:10,355 --> 01:32:13,194
"Let me in here, I know I've been
here, let me into your heart."
1514
01:32:13,195 --> 01:32:16,314
He was talking directly to Bob
because, you know, he'd seen Bob
1515
01:32:16,315 --> 01:32:20,394
and then he'd seen Bob another
time and he didn't seem as open
1516
01:32:20,395 --> 01:32:23,634
and so, that was his way of saying,
1517
01:32:23,635 --> 01:32:25,435
"let me in here,
let me into your heart."
1518
01:32:25,436 --> 01:32:29,394
And he was very unabashed and...
1519
01:32:29,395 --> 01:32:32,194
romantic about it, in a sense.
1520
01:32:32,195 --> 01:32:35,554
You know, I found that
he was very, er...
1521
01:32:35,555 --> 01:32:39,594
he had these love relationships
with his friends. He loved them.
1522
01:32:39,595 --> 01:32:43,394
It was very early in the morning
when I think my wife took the call
1523
01:32:43,395 --> 01:32:47,634
and then woke me up and told
me that Roy had passed away.
1524
01:32:47,635 --> 01:32:50,355
And then the next call was George.
1525
01:32:52,515 --> 01:32:56,274
I don't even know if I should say
what he said to me, you know,
1526
01:32:56,275 --> 01:32:58,235
but I will anyway!
1527
01:33:00,595 --> 01:33:04,875
When I came to the phone, he said,
"Aren't you glad it's not you?"
1528
01:33:06,555 --> 01:33:09,794
I said, "Yeah, yeah,
I am," you know.
1529
01:33:09,795 --> 01:33:13,834
Just, you know, he said,
"He'll be OK.
1530
01:33:13,835 --> 01:33:17,234
"He'll be OK.
1531
01:33:17,235 --> 01:33:21,594
"He's still around,
so just listen, he's still around,"
1532
01:33:21,595 --> 01:33:24,515
and then, that was all he had
to say about it, you know.
1533
01:33:36,795 --> 01:33:39,795
We say farewell
to the end of this reel.
1534
01:34:08,635 --> 01:34:11,434
You know, you want to just write
it so that, you know,
1535
01:34:11,435 --> 01:34:15,034
I mean, you don't want to milk it
into some huge big thing, you know.
1536
01:34:15,035 --> 01:34:16,074
No, of course.
1537
01:34:16,075 --> 01:34:18,714
I mean, I prefer you were to be
honest about it. No. No, that's fine.
1538
01:34:18,715 --> 01:34:21,113
You know, there's nothing worse than,
you know...bullshit.
1539
01:34:21,114 --> 01:34:22,995
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
1540
01:34:22,996 --> 01:34:26,474
And then all it does is it means
everybody else starts phoning up
1541
01:34:26,475 --> 01:34:29,034
and then they want their
version of it. I know.
1542
01:34:29,035 --> 01:34:31,355
I'm sorry, I mean, we're
all going to die one day,
1543
01:34:31,356 --> 01:34:34,594
but I'm not going to die
for you quite yet.
1544
01:34:34,595 --> 01:34:37,474
We wouldn't want that.
1545
01:34:37,475 --> 01:34:38,715
Well...you never know.
1546
01:34:38,716 --> 01:34:40,954
I think it makes a good story,
doesn't it?
1547
01:34:40,955 --> 01:34:42,395
W-what... When it was first...
1548
01:34:42,396 --> 01:34:48,714
When he was first diagnosed with
cancer, he told me,
1549
01:34:48,715 --> 01:34:52,994
and in a way as, you know, his main
thing was not to upset me.
1550
01:34:52,995 --> 01:34:54,514
I mean, there is a man who's,
1551
01:34:54,515 --> 01:34:57,194
who was not well,
who's worrying about me
1552
01:34:57,195 --> 01:34:59,554
and all the people around him.
1553
01:34:59,555 --> 01:35:02,354
So, that was
the measure of the man.
1554
01:35:02,355 --> 01:35:05,434
And then, of course, it was with
great joy that,
1555
01:35:05,435 --> 01:35:09,874
that he actually
got better initially
1556
01:35:09,875 --> 01:35:12,034
and so things were back on track
1557
01:35:12,035 --> 01:35:17,674
and we all put it to the back of our
minds that this was gone now.
1558
01:35:17,675 --> 01:35:21,434
I woke up, I just heard
smashing of glass.
1559
01:35:21,435 --> 01:35:23,394
I jumped up and woke up George.
1560
01:35:23,395 --> 01:35:26,914
It was about, it must've been
about 4.30 in the morning...
1561
01:35:26,915 --> 01:35:31,634
and I said,
"Somebody's smashed a window,"
1562
01:35:31,635 --> 01:35:34,274
and he said, "How do you know?"
I said, "I heard it!"
1563
01:35:34,275 --> 01:35:38,674
So he jumped up and I ran
to the door and I locked the door.
1564
01:35:38,675 --> 01:35:40,395
And he said, "Why are
you locking the door?"
1565
01:35:40,396 --> 01:35:43,194
I said, "Why?! Because I'm afraid.
That's why I'm locking the door."
1566
01:35:43,195 --> 01:35:45,875
He said, "No, no, no,
I'm going out there."
1567
01:35:47,195 --> 01:35:49,795
And so he ran downstairs, um...
1568
01:35:51,515 --> 01:35:55,194
..which he really didn't have to do,
but he felt he had to do
1569
01:35:55,195 --> 01:35:59,234
cos my mother was upstairs,
and he didn't want...
1570
01:35:59,235 --> 01:36:02,314
You know, he didn't know
if she was OK.
1571
01:36:02,315 --> 01:36:04,674
We had a statue of Saint Michael.
1572
01:36:04,675 --> 01:36:07,554
And the wing from the statue
of Saint Michael...
1573
01:36:07,555 --> 01:36:10,914
it was made of stone -
had been thrown through the window.
1574
01:36:10,915 --> 01:36:14,314
And George was on one side
and I was on the other
1575
01:36:14,315 --> 01:36:19,715
and we looked down and this maniac
just ran in like Beelzebub...
1576
01:36:22,115 --> 01:36:28,634
..with a stick from Saint Michael
in one hand...
1577
01:36:28,635 --> 01:36:33,434
you know, he slays the dragon
with his spear.
1578
01:36:33,435 --> 01:36:37,795
He had that in one hand and I didn't
see what he had in the other.
1579
01:36:39,795 --> 01:36:44,914
Anyway, George started
chanting really loud at him,
1580
01:36:44,915 --> 01:36:48,875
and this guy was saying,
"Get down here, get down here."
1581
01:36:50,835 --> 01:36:52,075
"What do you want?"
1582
01:36:52,076 --> 01:36:54,954
He said, "You know what I want,"
it was just horrible.
1583
01:36:54,955 --> 01:36:58,274
It was just like this
voice from the bowels of hell.
1584
01:36:58,275 --> 01:37:03,994
And, uh...and then he just
ran up, tore up the stairs.
1585
01:37:03,995 --> 01:37:06,794
He was in a florid psychotic state.
1586
01:37:06,795 --> 01:37:08,674
And he was tall and young.
1587
01:37:08,675 --> 01:37:13,234
And then they'd come closer
to where the room was.
1588
01:37:13,235 --> 01:37:17,594
And this man was on top of George,
um...
1589
01:37:17,595 --> 01:37:21,674
trying to kill him,
just laying on him,
1590
01:37:21,675 --> 01:37:25,794
in just, I think, the worst way.
1591
01:37:25,795 --> 01:37:31,954
To have some, you know, physical
contact with some horrible person.
1592
01:37:31,955 --> 01:37:35,914
Anyway, I just ran back in the room
and, uh...
1593
01:37:35,915 --> 01:37:39,034
I don't know,
something just took over,
1594
01:37:39,035 --> 01:37:41,354
and I grabbed a poker.
1595
01:37:41,355 --> 01:37:45,474
My dad was a big baseball fan and he
used to always say, "Follow through."
1596
01:37:45,475 --> 01:37:49,954
That's all I could think of was,
"Don't throw like a girl."
1597
01:37:49,955 --> 01:37:51,354
"Follow through."
1598
01:37:51,355 --> 01:37:55,474
I mean, it got worse, cos I hit
the guy several times, you know,
1599
01:37:55,475 --> 01:37:58,074
I could see the blood
spreading down his blond hair.
1600
01:37:58,075 --> 01:37:59,714
And then, he got up.
1601
01:37:59,715 --> 01:38:02,834
You know, he got up and he chased me
and had me around the neck.
1602
01:38:02,835 --> 01:38:05,434
And then George got up
and jumped on his back.
1603
01:38:05,435 --> 01:38:07,714
And, poor George, he said,
"You know, God,
1604
01:38:07,715 --> 01:38:10,394
"just when he got off of me,
I was thinking 'Oh, good, '
1605
01:38:10,395 --> 01:38:12,674
"then I had to get up
and fight him again."
1606
01:38:12,675 --> 01:38:14,954
And he'd already been stabbed.
1607
01:38:14,955 --> 01:38:17,754
But we all fell into a big pile,
and I managed to get out
1608
01:38:17,755 --> 01:38:20,034
from underneath,
and George pinned him down.
1609
01:38:20,035 --> 01:38:22,314
And George said to me,
"I've got the knife!"
1610
01:38:22,315 --> 01:38:24,114
And I thought, "What knife?!"
1611
01:38:24,115 --> 01:38:26,874
I didn't know, I thought
he was just kidding.
1612
01:38:26,875 --> 01:38:29,634
I thought he was just trying
to fake the guy out.
1613
01:38:29,635 --> 01:38:32,594
It's like, I hadn't seen that.
1614
01:38:32,595 --> 01:38:34,674
Afterwards, we were...
1615
01:38:34,675 --> 01:38:39,234
We were, um, taken to a good old
National Health hospital
1616
01:38:39,235 --> 01:38:43,554
with these rickety wheelchairs
at four in the morning
1617
01:38:43,555 --> 01:38:47,194
and it was like freezing,
it was so cold, I was just shaking,
1618
01:38:47,195 --> 01:38:49,474
I didn't realise I was in shock.
1619
01:38:49,475 --> 01:38:53,554
But, you know, they were pushing us
down and we were looking at each other
1620
01:38:53,555 --> 01:38:57,474
and they've got us in these beds
and they put the curtain around us
1621
01:38:57,475 --> 01:39:00,355
and he had a collapsed
lung, he had things in and
1622
01:39:00,356 --> 01:39:03,235
out the other side and
outside of his leg...
1623
01:39:04,635 --> 01:39:07,555
You know, I had my head open and,
you know...
1624
01:39:11,075 --> 01:39:13,954
But just looking into
each other's eyes,
1625
01:39:13,955 --> 01:39:16,235
our eyes must have been like...
1626
01:39:17,555 --> 01:39:19,474
I said, "What the hell was that?"
1627
01:39:19,475 --> 01:39:23,114
He said, "I don't know, it's like, I
never tried to kill anybody before,"
1628
01:39:23,115 --> 01:39:25,274
and I said, "No, neither did I."
1629
01:39:25,275 --> 01:39:28,475
It's like this...
you know, phew.
1630
01:39:31,435 --> 01:39:33,394
But what...
1631
01:39:33,395 --> 01:39:36,274
You know, honestly,
we talked about it a lot,
1632
01:39:36,275 --> 01:39:40,554
and the next day George said,
"You know, I was lying there
1633
01:39:40,555 --> 01:39:42,754
"and I was thinking,
I can't believe it,
1634
01:39:42,755 --> 01:39:45,274
"after everything's
that's happened to me,
1635
01:39:45,275 --> 01:39:48,994
"I'm going to be murdered,
I'm being murdered in my own home.
1636
01:39:48,995 --> 01:39:53,474
"And since I'm being murdered
and I'm going to die,
1637
01:39:53,475 --> 01:39:58,354
"I better start
letting go of this life,
1638
01:39:58,355 --> 01:40:03,634
"and I better start doing what I've
been practising my whole life
1639
01:40:03,635 --> 01:40:06,434
"so that I can leave my body
the way I want to."
1640
01:40:06,435 --> 01:40:09,954
He was so defiant,
and so determined.
1641
01:40:09,955 --> 01:40:14,675
Nothing was going to stop him
from leaving his body
1642
01:40:16,715 --> 01:40:19,474
and leaping as high
as he could go.
1643
01:40:19,475 --> 01:40:20,954
It was the millennium,
1644
01:40:20,955 --> 01:40:23,794
and we were staying in Santa Barbara
with some friends,
1645
01:40:23,795 --> 01:40:26,274
and then this awful
news came through.
1646
01:40:26,275 --> 01:40:28,594
I said to Tania, "We have to go,"
1647
01:40:28,595 --> 01:40:32,474
and so I called up and said,
"Should we come?"
1648
01:40:32,475 --> 01:40:34,434
And he said, "Where are you?"
1649
01:40:34,435 --> 01:40:37,474
OK, so, we got on a plane
and came immediately,
1650
01:40:37,475 --> 01:40:41,634
and, um...it was very...
1651
01:40:41,635 --> 01:40:43,434
You know, it was very powerful.
1652
01:40:43,435 --> 01:40:46,035
I mean, they would walk
us round where the
1653
01:40:46,036 --> 01:40:48,634
various stages of the
attack took place.
1654
01:40:48,635 --> 01:40:52,034
When they picked him up,
they put him on this stretcher
1655
01:40:52,035 --> 01:40:54,394
and they're carrying him downstairs,
1656
01:40:54,395 --> 01:40:59,474
and there were two people who had
just started work that weekend.
1657
01:40:59,475 --> 01:41:02,114
And he's being carried out, stabbed,
1658
01:41:02,115 --> 01:41:04,834
he'd eight stab wounds,
and he looks over and he says,
1659
01:41:04,835 --> 01:41:07,035
"So what do you think
of the job so far?"
1660
01:41:08,035 --> 01:41:11,074
Which is a great
kind of...very George.
1661
01:41:11,075 --> 01:41:15,074
So Dhani and Livy and George...
1662
01:41:15,075 --> 01:41:18,234
came up to this house...
1663
01:41:18,235 --> 01:41:22,354
and he just was so distraught.
1664
01:41:22,355 --> 01:41:24,895
I've never, ever had
a time when there's
1665
01:41:24,896 --> 01:41:27,434
so many tears have been shed...
1666
01:41:27,435 --> 01:41:32,194
just total grief - of no death.
1667
01:41:32,195 --> 01:41:38,114
Just grief of what a horrible thing
somebody could do
1668
01:41:38,115 --> 01:41:42,994
to another person,
without actually killing them.
1669
01:41:42,995 --> 01:41:47,954
He was very, very badly attacked,
and...
1670
01:41:47,955 --> 01:41:51,074
by the time he died, he didn't
even have a single scar on him.
1671
01:41:51,075 --> 01:41:53,194
I mean, he was like a yogi.
1672
01:41:53,195 --> 01:41:56,234
He moved on from that,
physically and mentally,
1673
01:41:56,235 --> 01:41:57,914
and didn't let it affect him.
1674
01:41:57,915 --> 01:42:00,514
But it definitely took
years off his life, you know.
1675
01:42:00,515 --> 01:42:02,474
If you're trying to fight cancer
1676
01:42:02,475 --> 01:42:05,994
and then you're trying to stay alive
for something like that, you know,
1677
01:42:05,995 --> 01:42:08,354
it's got to take it
out of you, you know?
1678
01:42:08,355 --> 01:42:10,914
We went to Fiji to be,
1679
01:42:10,915 --> 01:42:14,314
"Take us to the island
where there isn't anybody,
1680
01:42:14,315 --> 01:42:16,994
"and then take us in a boat
and drop us off at the cove
1681
01:42:16,995 --> 01:42:20,594
"where there isn't anyone on the
beach, where there isn't anyone."
1682
01:42:20,595 --> 01:42:22,394
And then he'd disappear.
1683
01:42:22,395 --> 01:42:25,834
It's like, he's only with me,
and then he would go off on his own.
1684
01:42:25,835 --> 01:42:29,514
But he'd come out, like, dressed
in banana leaves, or something,
1685
01:42:29,515 --> 01:42:32,394
you know, with, like,
heliconias and things.
1686
01:42:32,395 --> 01:42:36,115
He liked to...
for him, I think that was
1687
01:42:36,116 --> 01:42:39,834
just like building a
fort out of bracken.
1688
01:42:39,835 --> 01:42:43,475
I had an experience which, um...
1689
01:42:44,675 --> 01:42:47,554
..speeds up the whole idea of,
um...
1690
01:42:47,555 --> 01:42:52,234
You know, if you have something
happen to you physically, then,
1691
01:42:52,235 --> 01:42:54,955
you know, people go
in hospital, or have,
1692
01:42:54,956 --> 01:42:57,674
you know, something
wrong with them
1693
01:42:57,675 --> 01:43:02,114
and, um, you know, have a shock
or something like that,
1694
01:43:02,115 --> 01:43:05,394
and then you think,
"Wow, yeah, I could be dying now."
1695
01:43:05,395 --> 01:43:09,794
Now, if I was dying now,
what would I think?
1696
01:43:09,795 --> 01:43:11,394
What would I miss?
1697
01:43:11,395 --> 01:43:15,954
If I had to leave my body,
you know, in an hour's time,
1698
01:43:15,955 --> 01:43:18,954
what is it that I would miss?
1699
01:43:18,955 --> 01:43:23,954
And I think, "Well,
I've got a son who needs a father,
1700
01:43:23,955 --> 01:43:27,914
"So I have to stick around for him.
as long as I can.
1701
01:43:27,915 --> 01:43:29,874
"But, um...
1702
01:43:29,875 --> 01:43:34,914
"other than that, I can't
think of much reason to be here."
1703
01:43:42,115 --> 01:43:45,194
We had this whole
30 years together,
1704
01:43:45,195 --> 01:43:51,074
and then at the end you're able
to just decant that time.
1705
01:43:51,075 --> 01:43:54,555
We spent that summer together
and we had so much fun.
1706
01:43:56,795 --> 01:44:01,274
It's amazing, you know, at the end of
your life, here's the conversation...
1707
01:44:01,275 --> 01:44:03,315
"I hope I wasn't a bad husband."
1708
01:44:05,795 --> 01:44:08,914
"Well, I hope I was an OK wife.
1709
01:44:08,915 --> 01:44:12,954
"How did we do? How did we do?"
1710
01:44:12,955 --> 01:44:16,234
And then you think, "I'm so glad.
1711
01:44:16,235 --> 01:44:20,754
"I am so glad that we just kept
walking this path together."
1712
01:44:20,755 --> 01:44:23,874
And all those other things
that came and went
1713
01:44:23,875 --> 01:44:28,275
we just swatted away and batted away
in between us, you know?"
1714
01:44:42,595 --> 01:44:45,674
He had a long battle
with his cancer.
1715
01:44:45,675 --> 01:44:47,435
He's such a brave lad.
1716
01:44:48,995 --> 01:44:52,594
What do you miss
the most about George?
1717
01:44:52,595 --> 01:44:57,394
Uh, his humour,
his friendship...
1718
01:44:57,395 --> 01:44:59,795
his, um, love.
1719
01:45:02,035 --> 01:45:07,314
I've lost racing drivers, phew, so
many of my friends have been killed.
1720
01:45:07,315 --> 01:45:10,074
I've been with them
when they've died.
1721
01:45:10,075 --> 01:45:16,114
I've had an enormous exposure
to emotional experiences.
1722
01:45:16,115 --> 01:45:20,234
And yet, I don't think there's much
else that's ever given me
1723
01:45:20,235 --> 01:45:23,674
such a long-lasting...
1724
01:45:23,675 --> 01:45:28,154
bereavement as George's loss.
1725
01:45:28,155 --> 01:45:32,114
And I can't say that I was
one of George's very best friends,
1726
01:45:32,115 --> 01:45:36,594
cos a lot more people spent a lot
more time with him than I did.
1727
01:45:36,595 --> 01:45:40,234
But I, at least,
felt such a closeness to him
1728
01:45:40,235 --> 01:45:42,794
that it still affects me
to this day.
1729
01:45:42,795 --> 01:45:45,034
I could give you a dozen names,
1730
01:45:45,035 --> 01:45:47,714
and I'll bet you they would say
the same as I'm saying.
1731
01:45:47,715 --> 01:45:50,554
It wasn't a skill.
1732
01:45:50,555 --> 01:45:56,074
It was just an aura which
provided us with a feel-good factor
1733
01:45:56,075 --> 01:45:59,794
that we didn't get
from very many people in our lives.
1734
01:45:59,795 --> 01:46:04,194
The last weeks of George's life,
he was in Switzerland,
1735
01:46:04,195 --> 01:46:07,594
and I went to see him,
and he was very ill.
1736
01:46:07,595 --> 01:46:10,275
And, you know,
he could only lay down.
1737
01:46:13,635 --> 01:46:17,994
And while he was being ill
and I'd come to see him,
1738
01:46:17,995 --> 01:46:22,074
I was going to Boston,
1739
01:46:22,075 --> 01:46:25,354
cos my daughter had a brain tumour.
1740
01:46:25,355 --> 01:46:28,034
And I said, "Well, you know,
I've got to go,
1741
01:46:28,035 --> 01:46:30,755
"I've got to go to Boston,"
and he goes...
1742
01:46:33,795 --> 01:46:37,154
..it's the last words I heard
him say, actually...
1743
01:46:37,155 --> 01:46:40,595
And he said, "Do you want me
to come with you?"
1744
01:46:41,955 --> 01:46:43,635
Oh, God.
1745
01:46:44,875 --> 01:46:48,515
So, you know, that's
the incredible side of George.
1746
01:46:51,035 --> 01:46:55,234
God, it's like Barbara fucking
Walters here, isn't it?
1747
01:47:39,075 --> 01:47:45,195
There was a profound experience
that happened when he left his body.
1748
01:47:46,355 --> 01:47:48,234
It was visible.
1749
01:47:48,235 --> 01:47:52,395
Let's just say, you wouldn't
need to light the room...
1750
01:47:54,795 --> 01:47:56,835
..if you were trying to film it.
1751
01:47:58,515 --> 01:48:00,075
You know, he, um...
1752
01:48:02,835 --> 01:48:04,155
He just...
1753
01:48:07,315 --> 01:48:09,075
He just lit the room.
1754
01:48:22,875 --> 01:48:26,674
** Namah Parvati **
1755
01:48:26,675 --> 01:48:32,995
** Pataye Hare Hare Mahadev **
1756
01:48:34,755 --> 01:48:40,315
** Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare **
1757
01:48:44,075 --> 01:48:49,275
** Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare **
1758
01:48:53,315 --> 01:48:59,755
** Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva **
1759
01:49:02,995 --> 01:49:08,675
** Hare Hare Hare Hare Mahadeva **
1760
01:49:12,915 --> 01:49:19,595
** Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva **
1761
01:49:22,835 --> 01:49:28,595
** Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva **
1762
01:49:33,275 --> 01:49:39,435
** Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva **
1763
01:50:01,764 --> 01:50:04,844
"Long, Long, Long"
1764
01:50:08,644 --> 01:50:15,404
** It's been a long,
long, long time **
1765
01:50:19,724 --> 01:50:26,564
** How could I ever have lost you **
1766
01:50:31,564 --> 01:50:36,084
** When I loved you? **
1767
01:50:39,684 --> 01:50:46,444
** It took a long, long, long time **
1768
01:50:50,044 --> 01:50:56,244
** Now I'm so happy I found you **
1769
01:51:01,844 --> 01:51:06,444
** How I want you **
1770
01:51:08,004 --> 01:51:13,684
** How I love you **
1771
01:51:15,604 --> 01:51:18,964
** You know that I need you **
1772
01:51:21,164 --> 01:51:23,564
** Oh, I love you... **148218
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