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He's got so much to offer.
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I think he's just--
he's almost too good
for the industry.
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Meeting an actresslike Amber Heard,
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it's like walking into a roomand meeting Lauren Bacall.
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She's quite something,you know.
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First question,
is this like a film come true
to make with Johnny Depp?
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It's torture. Yes, torture.
But I survived.
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Uh.
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A wonderfulSouthern belle,sweet as can be...
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and very good for me.
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Hey, Amber.
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Hey, Amber,
did Johnny give you
that bruise on your face?
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Amber?
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Johnny Deppaccused of domestic abusein his sudden split
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from actress Amber Heard.
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Did Johnny brutalize you?
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She says,Johnny smashed her facewith an iPhone,
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leaving her with this bruise.
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In a story about him
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and his then wife,Amber Heard,
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a U.K. newspapercalled Johnny Deppa "wife-beater."
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I know he was shockedand appalled
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by such a serious allegationbeing made against him.
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So damaging
and completely untrue.
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He felt compelled
to bring the proceedings.
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He had to clear his name.
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You lot, get out the way.
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Let him through!
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I'm screaming help
as loud as I can
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and I...
I also text Rocky, previous,
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"It's amping up."
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Oh, you're crazy.
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Are you crazy?
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Have you drunk
this whole thing this morning?
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Oh, you got this going?
You got this going?
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You started it.
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- Oh, really?
- Yes.
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Really?
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She threw
a vodka bottle at me.
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All the bone in here
was completely shattered.
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I mean, it's--
it looked like Vesuvius.
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Rolling on Middleton.
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In the last 12 years,
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I seemto have become embroiled
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in some of the biggesttabloid stories in America.
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And I can say
that at the very top
of Murdoch's British empire,
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there was genuine concern
about this lawsuit.
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I know that. I was told that.
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Sources from withinsidethe newsroom
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were very concernedabout the reputational damagethat The Sun would take
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if they lost this case.
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I certainly believe
that Johnny Depp had a choice,
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the court of law
or the court
of public opinion.
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He decided and has decided
to use the court of law
as a vehicle to attempt
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to exonerate himself
of the allegations
leveled against him,
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because Hollywood Studiosin 2021no longer support people
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that are accusedof being wife-beaters.
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Yeah, the reality
is Johnny Depp's career
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has been absolutely
damaged by this.
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Not only is he goingto be labeled forevermoreas a wife-beater.
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It means that authors like
J.K. Rowling are gonna find it
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very difficult to have him
in their films.
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Disney are gonna find it
very difficult
to have him in their films.
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What studio
is gonna pick him?
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I think, I don't think
it's going to be
a domino effect.
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I think
it's going to be a cliff.
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I think
this might be the last time
we hear from him.
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...those studios,
they're gonna wait
to see what this...
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Once these allegationswere made against him,
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I think he referredto himself as Quasimodo.
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So, this case was incredibly
important
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in having to try
to clear your name.
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A huge amount
of your private information
has to be aired in open court,
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which, particularly
if you're a private person,
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is really difficult
to go through.
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So, you wouldn't do
any of that unless
you thought that the benefits,
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um, or the need was so strong
that you put yourself
through all of that.
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This is his life
and his reputation on trial,
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literally on trial.
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Johnny Depp, he's backin a London courtroom
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fighting for what seems likehis career.
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Johnny Deppis suing The Sun Newspaperover an article
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which called hima "wife-beater."
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Johnny,we love you, darling.
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Amber Heard, who first madethe allegations,
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was also in court today.
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She arrived supportedby friends througha side entrance.
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Do not move forward,
stay where you are.
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I've been all aroundthe world and coveredmany criminal court cases.
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But this was the storywhich gave you
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kind of unparalleled access
to the lives of celebrities
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who mostly live
on kind of private islands,
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get about in private jets.
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And this was a momentwhere you could sort of see,in excruciating detail,
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what was going on behindthe scenes.
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The first day of trial was,
um, slightly surreal.
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My team, several colleagues,
hadn't yet gone to bed.
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They'd been working through
the night just finalizing
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the last trial documents.
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So, we went into court.
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Then I knew
Johnny was arriving.
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I just came down to the steps,
met him.
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There was the crowd outside,
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which you don't normallyget in any hearings.
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Justice for Johnny.
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Do you want your hair cut?
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Justice for Johnny.
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- Morning.
- Morning.
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I was broughtinto the case to leadthe trial.
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There have been
other high-profile trials,
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as you can imagine,
but this, I think,
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must rank as one of
the most high profile
that there's ever been.
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The case was interesting
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because the defendantwas not his former wife,Amber Heard.
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It was The Sun newspaper.
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One of the most
influential newspapers,
obviously, in this country.
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And one does ask the question,
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why would Johnny Depp
have taken that course
to go all the way to trial
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and expose, risk exposing
the very little privacy
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he's managed to maintain
despite his international
sort of success and profile,
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unless he believed
those allegations
were completely untrue.
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From the outset,
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our focus was on demonstratingthat The Sun's star witness,
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Amber Heard, was lying.
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I traveled here to the U.K.
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to testify as a witness
to assist the court.
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After obtaining
a restraining order in 2016
and finalizing my divorce.
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I just wanted to move on
with my life.
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You're a liar!
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One of the quite
unusual features of the case
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is that there was so much
evidence taken
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during the courseof their relationship.
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Amber Heardtook a number of photographs.
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There were also texts.
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There were documents, there were even medical notes,
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but there werealso secret recordingsthat were made.
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I don't want a divorce.
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And I never wanteda fucking divorce.
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I say secret, some of them.
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One of them was made
by Amber Heard herself
then others were made
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where both of them knew
they were recording
each other
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as part of the sort of
therapeutic process.
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There was alsovideo of which Amber Heard
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had secretly recordedof Johnny Depp.
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Ah!
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Motherfucker!
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Motherfucker!
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What happened?
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And one does have to ask why she was doing that.
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She said at trialthat she was doing it
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because she wanted to showJohnny Depp the next daywhat she says he did.
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Whether or not Johnny Depp
was guilty of beating up
Amber Heard.
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I don't know the truth,
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and I don't think many people
will ever really know
the truth
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about what happened
behind closed doors.
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But she never did showany of them to him.
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Those recordings
and the contents
of the recordings
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were so important, we felt,
in undermining the case.
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- Justice for Johnny!
- Justice for Johnny!
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Justice for Johnny!
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"Abuse has no gender."
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Is that Wass there?
Oh, there's Wass. There.
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Sasha Wass QC,who represented The Sunin court,
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was this incrediblepowerhouse.
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She was thesort of High Priestessof the high court.
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It is impossibleto sort of not becaught up in her aura
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and she absolutely dissected
Johnny Depp in the stand.
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It was kind of
like a masterclass
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in how to cross-examine
somebody.
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I was given three daysto question Mr. Depp.
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Um, Mr. Depp was used to
being interviewed,
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so he was adept
at answering questions,
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but perhaps not in a way
that was appropriate
for a court scenario.
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Depp was the first to giveevidence here,
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and whileon the witness stand,
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he was asked repeatedlywhether he hadanger management issues,
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something he denied.
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He admitted freelyto the fact
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that he had problemswith alcohol and drugs
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in the sense
that he did drink a lot.
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And as he explained
the fact that it didn't have
an enormous effect on him
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and, um,
in certain circumstances.
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He was askedJohnny Depp in court,you know,
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"What kind of drugshave you taken?"
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And he reeled off this kind ofexhaustive list sayinghe'd taken LSD,
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mushrooms, prescription drugs,
cocaine, MDMA,
but not ketamine.
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He was very clear about that.
I have never taken ketamine.
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And you couldkind of sort of see
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all the journalists almostsniggering at that point.
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All the extraneous informationcame out
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about how he was takingindustrial quantitiesof illegal drugs,
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how he was addictedto alcohol.
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Johnny being so candidand so honest, we felt,
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uh, gavesuch a good representationof his credibility.
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And I thinkthat was a feature of the way
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he gave his evidencewas just to tell the truthand be honest.
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The evidence
was that Mr. Depp started
abusing drink and drugs
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in March 2013
after a long period
of abstinence.
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On one occasion,Ms. Heard laughedat a tattoo of his,
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which read, "Wino Forever".
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It had been changedfrom "Winona Forever".
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And although she had seen itmany times before,
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on this occasion,
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she ridiculed the fact
that he was a wino
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and he took ill
at this suggestion
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and beat her and smacked her
about the face,
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which was the first time,
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according to herthis had happened.
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And it's an occasionshe remembered very clearly.
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What Sasha Wass QC
wanted to get across
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is that this was not
a one-off incident,
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that he had repeatedly
behaved like this
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and this was
a pattern of behavior
of a domestic abuser.
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Amber Heard described himin two very different ways.
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There was the charming,sober, clean Mr. Depp,
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who was a joy to be around.
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And then there was the manwho would be drunk,
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violent and disagreeable.
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Mr. Depp knew
that when he was
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under the influence
of drink and drugs,
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he behaved extremely badly.
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And he created a name
for that nasty side
to his character.
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And the name
was the "Monster."
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- Of me?
- Yes.
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Just what
the monster meant became
a central part of this case.
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Was the monster
a prolific domestic abuser?
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Was the monster
in Johnny Depp's eyes,
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just a much more
kind of casual term used
for when he lost his temper?
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...because--
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When you listen towhat they were actuallysaying to each other
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at the time in private,
her real complaint was that
when they had an argument,
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far from him hitting her
or squaring up to her
or anything similar,
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in fact,
Johnny Depp would leave.
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He would split,
as she described it.
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She-- He would run away
from the argument.
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Now, that's precisely
the opposite sort of behavior
you would expect
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from someone
who is supposed to be,
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um, a domestic abuser.
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Amber Heard
was unable to deal with that.
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Mm-hmm.
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Seriously, you know,like, sit down.
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He was no monster.
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And a number of witnessescame forward to say,
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he was an incredibly kind,generous person.
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Here in no man's land,
Johnny Depp country.
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Come on, I'll show you
where Johnny's club is.
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In the summer of 2019,
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I got a callfrom Amber Heard's lawyer.
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And he said,
"Amber wants to do
an investigation
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on her ex-husband,
Johnny Depp."
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And of course,
I already knew what it was.
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It's like,
"Find, get the dirt."
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It's always get the dirt
on somebody.
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And I remember asking,
one of the first questions
I asked was,
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"Do you want me to look
into Johnny's follies
and vices of the past?"
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And, "Absolutely."
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And I suggested I go
as far back as The Viper Room.
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Can you justget over here, please?
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Yeah, slow down, okay?
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- Where is the guy?
- Okay.
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- We have help on the way.
- I know.
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That 23-year-old actor,
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River Phoenix, stumbled out ofthis trendy sunset nightclub
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known as The Viper Roomand died of a massivedrug overdose.
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Amber knewthat that was a time
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and a place where there wasa lot of drugs,
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sex and rock and rolland alleged backroom deals.
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His friends sayPhoenix had been
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in the words of one of them,"acting strange".
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At this point in time,
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the exact cause of death
is still under investigation.
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Los Angeleshomicide detectives say
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an autopsy will take placein the next few days
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and should reveal what causedthe young actor's death.
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I looked to seeif there was anythinggoing on based on the rumors,
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whether it was drug dealing,
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prostitutionor illegal gambling,
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to find outif there was any factsbehind those allegations.
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What you saw of Johnny Depp,
did he seem like an...
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I spokewith some of the employees.
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He's a really nice guy.
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I spokewith some of the patrons.
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I got ahold ofJohnny's ex-girlfriends.
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Winona Ryder,Kate Moss, even Traci Lords.
285
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I'm trying to find behaviorthat's consistent with himbeing abusive to women.
286
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Well, what about you?
287
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One thing that holds trueis that not one person
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had one deprecating thing
to say about Johnny.
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And in fact, a lot of peoplesaid that Johnny is generousbeyond the pale.
290
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He pays
his friend's medical bills.
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He pays his friends',
family rent,
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uh, legal fees.
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Someone's in a bind,
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he's always been there
to help.
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That says a lot about the man.
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And I admire him for that.
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- This is Johnny Depp.
- Hi.
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Star of A Nightmare
on Elm Street, private resort.
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And... has a bulging wad.
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...show at $39.95.
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Well, anyway,
look who we have here.
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To our right, upstage right.
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One day, Bruce came to me.
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He said, "Man,
I got this guy, Johnny.
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He's coming to me
every day saying,
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'I want to join the band.
I want to join the band.
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Come on,
I want to join the band.'"
308
00:21:05,689 --> 00:21:09,169
Well, that was, that was our
friend Johnny Depp.
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All right.
It's a big band,
ladies and gentlemen,
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special guest, Johnny Depp.
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I wanna say yama diggy.
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Yama diggy. Yama diggy.
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Johnnyhad this look about him.
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His whole persona was,like, very mysterious.
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He was absolutelymore of an introvert.
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He wasn't that partier.
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He wasn't that womanizerback in those days.
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But he was the pretty boy.
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Move over,Marlon Brando.
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Make way for Johnny Depp,
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the new masterof the misfit role
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famous as the teen pin-upwho couldn't standhis heartthrob status,
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Johnny's made a...
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What's fascinatingabout Johnny Depp
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is that he isthe Hollywood outsider.
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Born in Kentucky,
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he describes
himself as a sort of
southern gentleman.
328
00:22:07,103 --> 00:22:11,623
You know, he moves to L.A.
in the '80s with his band.
329
00:22:11,655 --> 00:22:15,305
He's... Suddenly he getsmainstream success.
330
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But he's kind of notthe conventional actorin many respects.
331
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- Hello.
- Hi.
332
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- Good to see here.
- Oh, thanks.
333
00:22:20,724 --> 00:22:22,594
Are you a big fan
of independent filmmakers?
334
00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,720
Yeah, yeah, very much. Yeah.
335
00:22:24,758 --> 00:22:26,658
He's always been alternative.
336
00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:31,549
The least important thing
to me is becoming famous
and being well known and,
337
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you know,
trying to be everybody's hero.
338
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That's not what I'm about.
339
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That's I think,important to himand his essence as an actor.
340
00:22:41,586 --> 00:22:44,026
Edward Scissorhands,he's this incrediblyvulnerable,
341
00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:48,338
emo characterwho has broad appeal.
342
00:22:48,379 --> 00:22:51,589
Kids watch him,adults watch him.
343
00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,970
And then Fearand Loathing.
344
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,830
They want me to go to
Las Vegas at once,
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00:22:55,862 --> 00:22:58,972
and make contact
with a Portuguese photographer
named Lacerda.
346
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,240
What the hell was that, man?
347
00:23:00,275 --> 00:23:02,135
That was just, wow!
348
00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:03,692
You didn't know
where he was gonna be
349
00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:06,384
coming
from the next time around.
350
00:23:06,413 --> 00:23:08,763
But again,
he's the Hollywood outsider.
351
00:23:08,793 --> 00:23:11,833
You know, he's unconventional
in all of these roles.
352
00:23:11,862 --> 00:23:13,972
You know which way,
uh, is the hospital?
353
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,170
Since then, we've seen him as Jack Sparrowon our screens,
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00:23:17,206 --> 00:23:20,926
and he often pops upin children's hospitalsdoing charity work.
355
00:23:20,965 --> 00:23:24,025
I felt the need to...
356
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:33,690
There's something to be
said about a good-looking dude
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who loves rock and roll music
and women swoon over.
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It almost places him
in this untouchable area,
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00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,550
and Johnny was able to
trade off the back of that
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and not really be
a fixture of the tabloid
news set,
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despite being
one of the great actors
of a generation.
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Whilewe've been so occupied
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by the breakup of Tom Cruiseand Katie Holmes,
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00:23:58,241 --> 00:24:02,831
we almost forgotabout another of this year'shigh-profile splits.
365
00:24:02,862 --> 00:24:05,102
But all of a suddensomething happened...
366
00:24:05,137 --> 00:24:08,857
Johnny Deppand Vanessa Paradis break up.
367
00:24:08,896 --> 00:24:11,206
...a mid-life crisis.
368
00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,411
Where he lefthis family and found love.
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00:24:16,931 --> 00:24:18,861
The oneand only person, actually,
370
00:24:18,896 --> 00:24:22,206
that I've ever met that's been
in Johnny's life was Vanessa,
371
00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:24,481
you know,
the mother of his kids.
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00:24:24,517 --> 00:24:29,207
Just a beautiful soul,you know, beautiful lady.
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00:24:29,241 --> 00:24:35,791
He had something special
with Vanessa
and he fucked it up.
374
00:24:37,551 --> 00:24:39,591
Hey, Johnny.Are you really hittingAmber Heard?
375
00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:45,550
In 2009, he meets Amber Heardon the set of Rum Diary.
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00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:51,546
I think I was forced to watchthe whole of the Rum Diary
377
00:24:51,586 --> 00:24:53,546
because I was reviewing it
at the time,
378
00:24:53,586 --> 00:24:55,926
which was difficult
to endure the whole thing,
379
00:24:55,965 --> 00:24:57,785
I have to say.
380
00:24:57,827 --> 00:25:01,067
I don't think it's going to be
a film either of them
are proud of.
381
00:25:01,103 --> 00:25:02,663
You want a little bet?
382
00:25:04,724 --> 00:25:05,904
Bet about what?
383
00:25:05,931 --> 00:25:07,901
That you scream before I do.
384
00:25:10,448 --> 00:25:14,168
At the timeshe is still marriedto her wife.
385
00:25:14,206 --> 00:25:18,516
But later Amber Heardand Johnny Depp turn outin the premiere together.
386
00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:20,031
So, this is the big moment
387
00:25:20,068 --> 00:25:23,378
when Johnny Deppand Amber Heardcome out as a couple.
388
00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:29,663
She just saw him coming.
389
00:25:29,689 --> 00:25:35,589
She got the opportunity to be
a part of that film
and she worked it.
390
00:25:35,620 --> 00:25:37,830
What's your guilty pleasure?
- Whoa.
391
00:25:37,862 --> 00:25:39,452
Do you just go all out?
392
00:25:39,482 --> 00:25:40,622
You know what?
393
00:25:40,655 --> 00:25:42,655
I have
a lot of guilty pleasures,
394
00:25:42,689 --> 00:25:44,659
but none of which
I will tell you.
395
00:25:44,689 --> 00:25:46,829
So there's nothing moderation,
nothing you just go...
396
00:25:46,862 --> 00:25:48,722
Yes.
I go full out on everything.
397
00:25:48,758 --> 00:25:50,098
That's fantastic. We love...
398
00:25:50,137 --> 00:25:51,997
We love to hear that.
Great.
399
00:25:53,862 --> 00:25:55,722
Never met the woman.
400
00:25:55,758 --> 00:25:59,068
I do understand
that she's half his age.
401
00:25:59,103 --> 00:26:01,243
I get it.
402
00:26:01,275 --> 00:26:03,585
Okay, John, she's 25.
403
00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:06,070
I get it.Don't marry her.
404
00:26:06,103 --> 00:26:08,173
You don't need to marry her.You're Johnny Depp.
405
00:26:28,344 --> 00:26:31,034
Can I take
that as confirmation
of your engagement?
406
00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:32,928
You can take
that any way you like.
407
00:26:32,965 --> 00:26:34,405
Absolutely.
408
00:26:36,655 --> 00:26:39,785
Everything changed.
Everything changed.
409
00:26:39,827 --> 00:26:42,967
It's like he totally
just lost his mind.
410
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,450
I had the great pleasure
411
00:26:45,482 --> 00:26:50,312
and... and honor of kissing
a co-star in the Rum Diary.
412
00:26:50,344 --> 00:26:52,314
Your young lady,your young love.
413
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,214
And we know you're a romantic.
414
00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:57,001
So, just how romantic are you?
415
00:26:57,034 --> 00:26:58,904
- How romantic am I?
- Yes.
416
00:27:01,172 --> 00:27:04,212
Um... I'm romantic enough
to not be afraid to wake up
417
00:27:04,241 --> 00:27:07,411
a loved onein the middle of the nightwith a silly song.
418
00:27:07,448 --> 00:27:09,968
Like something real, real bad.
419
00:27:12,482 --> 00:27:14,482
Ruined his life.
420
00:27:14,517 --> 00:27:17,547
Really did. Look at it.
421
00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:19,516
Totally fucked
his career over.
422
00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:24,658
Cost him his friends,part of his family.
423
00:27:30,172 --> 00:27:31,412
Haven't talked to the man.
424
00:27:31,448 --> 00:27:34,928
He hasn't talked to Bruce...since any of this happened.
425
00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:38,030
Everything changed.
426
00:27:42,379 --> 00:27:44,209
She got inside John's head...
427
00:27:48,103 --> 00:27:52,243
and made him absolutelycrazy to the point
428
00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:56,585
where he was drinkingand drugging...
429
00:27:58,655 --> 00:28:00,925
to the point of just insanity.
430
00:28:19,206 --> 00:28:22,656
Ah! Motherfucker!
431
00:28:22,689 --> 00:28:24,139
Motherfucker.
432
00:28:24,172 --> 00:28:25,622
What happened?
433
00:28:33,413 --> 00:28:35,143
What happened?
434
00:29:02,137 --> 00:29:04,337
Nothing happened this morning.
You know that?
435
00:29:06,896 --> 00:29:09,096
- Were you in here?
- No.
436
00:29:09,137 --> 00:29:11,307
So then nothing happened
to you this morning.
437
00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:12,454
Yeah, you're right.
438
00:29:12,482 --> 00:29:14,972
I just woke up
and you were so sweet
and nice.
439
00:29:17,413 --> 00:29:19,173
We were not even fighting
this morning.
440
00:29:19,206 --> 00:29:20,586
All I did was say, sorry.
441
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:25,690
Did something happen
to you this morning?
442
00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:27,244
I don't think so.
443
00:29:31,172 --> 00:29:32,932
No.
That's the thing.
444
00:29:32,965 --> 00:29:33,995
You want to see crazy,
445
00:29:34,034 --> 00:29:36,454
I'll give you fucking crazy.
I'll give you crazy.
446
00:29:38,724 --> 00:29:40,344
Oh, you're crazy.
447
00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:41,519
Are you crazy?
448
00:29:41,551 --> 00:29:43,341
Have you drunk
this whole thing this morning?
449
00:29:43,379 --> 00:29:44,479
Oh, you got this going?
450
00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:46,207
- You got this going?
- I just started it.
451
00:29:46,241 --> 00:29:47,551
- Oh, really?
- Yes.
452
00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:48,756
Really?
453
00:29:54,344 --> 00:29:56,214
Sneak that shit on me,
you motherfucker.
454
00:29:56,241 --> 00:29:58,721
No. I didn't.
You were smashing shit.
455
00:29:58,758 --> 00:30:02,338
The kitchen video scenelooked bad first time
456
00:30:02,379 --> 00:30:03,759
it was played in court.
457
00:30:03,793 --> 00:30:06,763
You're not used to hearing
swearing in court
458
00:30:06,793 --> 00:30:10,593
and seeing someone banging
a kitchen cupboard.
459
00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:14,660
But we also insistedthat the entire videobe played,
460
00:30:14,689 --> 00:30:17,789
as opposed to the clipsthe defendantshad pulled out.
461
00:30:31,724 --> 00:30:35,144
And at the end you seeMs. Heard smirking,
462
00:30:35,172 --> 00:30:40,242
and you seethat this is not someonewho is in any fear of Johnny,
463
00:30:40,275 --> 00:30:44,655
but is justpleased to have caught himon camera acting in this way.
464
00:30:44,689 --> 00:30:46,379
The case for Johnny Depp
465
00:30:46,413 --> 00:30:51,973
relied on questioningthe credibilityof Amber Heard.
466
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,310
He grabs...
Uh, he grabs my head, um,
467
00:30:57,862 --> 00:31:01,762
takes a fistful of my hair
and says, "I hit your eye?
468
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,723
I hit your eye, huh?
Let me see your eye.
469
00:31:03,758 --> 00:31:05,378
Let me see.
Let me see your eye.
470
00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:07,173
What if I pull
your hair back?"
471
00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:12,716
And he yanks my head back
and he's, I don't know,
smacking my face
472
00:31:12,758 --> 00:31:17,448
or moving my face
or and he's got me
by the hair and, um...
473
00:31:20,793 --> 00:31:23,693
It's hard to describe it.
474
00:31:23,724 --> 00:31:25,934
There hadalready been depositions,
475
00:31:25,965 --> 00:31:28,515
which is the Americanform of taking evidence
476
00:31:28,551 --> 00:31:31,661
and witness statementsin the divorce proceedingsin America.
477
00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:35,969
At this time,
and he said, um...
478
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,280
He's yanking me
from side to side
with my hair.
479
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:41,760
Are you standing up
at this time?
480
00:31:41,793 --> 00:31:43,073
- Yeah.
- Okay.
481
00:31:43,103 --> 00:31:46,003
And has he pulled out any hair
from your head?
482
00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,484
Uh... He's still holding
on to my head...
483
00:31:48,517 --> 00:31:49,617
Okay.
484
00:31:49,655 --> 00:31:52,585
...at this time.
And he said, um...
485
00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:54,100
There were
a number of examples
486
00:31:54,137 --> 00:31:59,617
of where Amber Heard's
evidence changed either
from previous depositions
487
00:31:59,655 --> 00:32:02,545
or from the English
proceedings,
488
00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:04,686
where she had given
the witness statements
earlier.
489
00:32:04,724 --> 00:32:07,724
And it's an opportunity
then to test that evidence
490
00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:09,408
against
the previous statements.
491
00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:30,210
I'm truly sorry that Pistol
and Boo were not declared.
492
00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:33,001
Protecting Australia
is important.
493
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:35,074
Declare everything
when you enter Australia.
494
00:32:36,517 --> 00:32:39,897
So, in 2015, when Johnny Depp
and Amber Heard
went to Australia,
495
00:32:39,931 --> 00:32:42,691
there was this ridiculous
moment that many people
will remember
496
00:32:42,724 --> 00:32:46,344
when they basically
illegally smuggled
their two micro dogs Boo
497
00:32:46,379 --> 00:32:47,789
and Pistol into Australia,
498
00:32:47,827 --> 00:32:50,097
and it sparked
a huge diplomatic war.
499
00:32:50,137 --> 00:32:54,207
In the end they had
to eventually apologize
to the nation of Australia
500
00:32:54,241 --> 00:32:57,141
and Amber Heard
and Johnny Depp
did this sort of faux apology
501
00:32:57,172 --> 00:32:58,902
where they were
kind of sniggering together
502
00:32:58,931 --> 00:33:00,901
and did
the sort of faux serious,
503
00:33:00,931 --> 00:33:03,621
"We are sorry
to the nation of Australia
for smuggling our dogs"
504
00:33:03,655 --> 00:33:05,305
where they basically
were giggling together.
505
00:33:05,344 --> 00:33:08,484
And at that point it seems
like they were sort of
two kindred spirits,
506
00:33:08,517 --> 00:33:10,657
you know, that they were
kind of very much aligned.
507
00:33:10,689 --> 00:33:12,689
Did you smugglethe dogs into the country?
508
00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:14,864
There might have been
other things smuggled.
509
00:33:18,068 --> 00:33:21,658
The world watchedthis theater of the dogsmuggling in Australia.
510
00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,829
But behind closed doors
it wasn't a laughing matter.
511
00:33:26,931 --> 00:33:29,241
And three, two, one.
512
00:33:29,275 --> 00:33:30,585
Hit.
513
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:34,590
At the timeof filming Piratesin Australia,
514
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:38,000
I had a source very closeto the situation
515
00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:42,664
who had preemptively told me
that Johnny was off the rails.
516
00:33:42,689 --> 00:33:49,069
And that his behavior on set
was causing disruption
to the production
517
00:33:49,103 --> 00:33:53,033
and people's patience
was wearing very thin.
518
00:33:54,862 --> 00:33:57,342
Johnny and Amber wantedtheir wild lifestyle here
519
00:33:57,379 --> 00:33:58,689
to be out of the public eye,
520
00:33:58,724 --> 00:34:01,104
and it turns outfor very good reason.
521
00:34:01,137 --> 00:34:03,027
Bombshell evidence
seen at London courtroom
522
00:34:03,068 --> 00:34:05,208
is now spelled out
for the first time
523
00:34:05,241 --> 00:34:08,411
what really went on
behind these gates.
524
00:34:08,448 --> 00:34:11,448
Amber Heard alleges
that while they were on
their trip to Australia,
525
00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:15,452
Johnny Depp had actually
held Amber Heard hostage,
she said, for three days.
526
00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:18,552
She said that she had
feared for her life.
527
00:34:18,586 --> 00:34:21,306
She says she remembershim swigging whiskey,
528
00:34:21,344 --> 00:34:26,004
as he repeatedly threw bottles
at her like they were
bombs or grenades.
529
00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,414
Depp was manic.
530
00:34:28,448 --> 00:34:31,998
He was abusing drugs...
very seriously.
531
00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:37,764
Smashed up the house.There was about $150,000worth of damage.
532
00:34:37,793 --> 00:34:42,483
Graffiti on works of art,
glass everywhere.
533
00:34:42,517 --> 00:34:45,377
And according to her evidence,
534
00:34:45,413 --> 00:34:50,103
he completely lost
his self-control.
535
00:34:50,137 --> 00:34:52,617
Amber Heard saidthat over the courseof three days,
536
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,065
he went mad on drink,
537
00:34:55,103 --> 00:34:58,073
drugs and smashed upthis house.
538
00:34:58,103 --> 00:34:59,863
At one point, she says,
539
00:34:59,896 --> 00:35:02,066
he sliced offhis own fingertip
540
00:35:02,103 --> 00:35:04,593
and then started paintingthe walls.
541
00:35:05,793 --> 00:35:08,523
Are you enjoying
the Gold Coast, Johnny?
542
00:35:08,551 --> 00:35:12,311
The storythat Amber Heard gavewas just fantastical,
543
00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:17,074
that she was having to walkthrough broken glass
544
00:35:17,103 --> 00:35:20,453
and dragged across a tablewith glass all over it.
545
00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:23,972
Her skin was shreddedand her feet had cuts over it
546
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,550
and that this was a three-day hostage situation.
547
00:35:29,241 --> 00:35:33,931
When you listen to the wayin which Amber Heardgave her evidence in court,
548
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,995
it does appear
that she wasn't telling
the truth.
549
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:08,340
Not only hadshe the means to leavethe house,
550
00:36:08,379 --> 00:36:10,069
she only had to open, I think,
551
00:36:10,103 --> 00:36:12,593
the French windowsand exit the building.
552
00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:16,070
There was also a recordingthat was, I think,
553
00:36:16,103 --> 00:36:19,243
five-hour recordingthat was made by a device
554
00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:23,925
which apparently accidentallyrecorded what was going on.
555
00:36:43,862 --> 00:36:45,972
And what you can hearfrom that recording
556
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,170
and what was in the transcriptof it supports the suggestionthat we always said
557
00:36:51,206 --> 00:36:54,376
that Amber Heard startedan argument at one point
558
00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:58,723
and that there wereno real injuries to her.
559
00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:02,548
There was a very real injuryto Johnny Depp.
560
00:37:02,586 --> 00:37:05,786
She threw
a vodka bottle at me.
561
00:37:05,827 --> 00:37:11,547
My hand was resting
on the marble of the bar
like that.
562
00:37:11,586 --> 00:37:16,136
And the first bottle
went just past my ear.
563
00:37:16,172 --> 00:37:18,902
And the second one
was a larger bottle.
564
00:37:18,931 --> 00:37:21,791
And she threw it from
about this distance
565
00:37:21,827 --> 00:37:26,377
and it smashed into the bar,
566
00:37:26,413 --> 00:37:28,283
which and this,
567
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:32,620
this finger, who I now call
Little Richard,
568
00:37:32,655 --> 00:37:34,095
um...
569
00:37:36,068 --> 00:37:40,378
was, was...
the tip of the finger
was severed.
570
00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:47,213
And the... the-- all the--
all the bone in here
was completely shattered.
571
00:37:47,241 --> 00:37:49,931
I mean, it's...
it looked like Vesuvius.
572
00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:57,615
And then I got infections.
573
00:37:57,655 --> 00:38:00,165
I, I, I ended up
with MRSA twice.
574
00:38:00,206 --> 00:38:02,136
So, it's very complicated.
575
00:38:02,172 --> 00:38:04,072
I was trying to just get
the finger back,
576
00:38:04,103 --> 00:38:05,143
you know...
577
00:38:07,379 --> 00:38:14,309
and then deal
with the insanity of having
had my finger chopped off
578
00:38:14,344 --> 00:38:16,834
by this woman
that I was married to.
579
00:38:49,034 --> 00:38:50,484
911 Emergency,Operative 278.
580
00:38:57,310 --> 00:38:58,720
Okay, so what did she say
581
00:38:58,758 --> 00:39:00,588
that this guywas assaulted her or hit her?
582
00:39:02,241 --> 00:39:04,071
- Okay.
583
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,340
In May of 2016,just before they split up,
584
00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:21,929
when Johnny Depp returnsto his flat
585
00:39:21,965 --> 00:39:25,335
where Amber is still livingwith her friendssurrounding her,
586
00:39:25,379 --> 00:39:28,279
he is meant to have throwna phone at her.
587
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:32,590
And he leaves, LAPD turn up.
588
00:39:35,655 --> 00:39:37,655
Doing all right. Um...
589
00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:41,144
Okay.
590
00:39:41,172 --> 00:39:43,342
And instead of
making the complaint,
591
00:39:43,379 --> 00:39:45,999
she goes into a room
and takes photographs.
592
00:39:50,172 --> 00:39:53,862
And some photographsof the injuriesshe says she suffered.
593
00:39:55,482 --> 00:39:56,552
He's yelling at me.
594
00:39:56,586 --> 00:39:59,336
He's screaming about,
about my,
595
00:39:59,379 --> 00:40:02,029
about... "Let's see
how hard I hit you."
596
00:40:02,068 --> 00:40:06,518
And, um, and I'm screaming
at the top of my lungs.
597
00:40:06,551 --> 00:40:07,901
Okay. Oh, man.
598
00:40:07,931 --> 00:40:09,791
"Help! Help! Please help."
599
00:40:09,827 --> 00:40:11,687
I guess I say, "Call 911."
600
00:40:11,724 --> 00:40:12,934
I'm screaming for help,
601
00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:15,375
you know just, in case
iO is on the phone,
602
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:16,553
which I don't know,
603
00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:19,166
because the phone is somewhere
after hitting my face.
604
00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:21,516
I don't know where it
ricocheted and bounced off to,
605
00:40:21,551 --> 00:40:22,791
but it's on the floor.
606
00:40:22,827 --> 00:40:24,517
I can only hope
she's on the line,
607
00:40:24,551 --> 00:40:27,411
but I know and guess
security is somewhere.
608
00:40:27,448 --> 00:40:31,518
And even though,
they never respond when
I'm screaming "help", ever.
609
00:40:33,275 --> 00:40:35,445
I'm screaming help
as loud as I can.
610
00:40:35,482 --> 00:40:37,972
I also text Rocky, previous,
611
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,660
"It's amping up.
He's getting crazy again.
612
00:40:40,689 --> 00:40:43,479
Please, just... I need you
to come over,"
613
00:40:43,517 --> 00:40:47,067
because I thought another,
third party might be, um...
614
00:40:48,931 --> 00:40:53,141
A third party being present
helps, always to...
615
00:40:55,379 --> 00:40:56,999
- Is it your testimony?
- ...calm things.
616
00:40:57,034 --> 00:40:58,384
Is it your testimony
Ms. Heard?
617
00:40:58,413 --> 00:41:00,073
- Can we take
a break please?
- No.
618
00:41:00,103 --> 00:41:01,343
She's upset.
She's upset.
619
00:41:01,379 --> 00:41:02,479
She's not--
620
00:41:02,517 --> 00:41:04,277
She's crying
and she's upset, Blair.
621
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:07,100
How could you
possibly force her
to answer questions
622
00:41:07,137 --> 00:41:10,377
Because I see
the witness is not upset
and hasn't requested.
623
00:41:10,413 --> 00:41:12,483
I'm requesting on her behalf?
624
00:41:12,517 --> 00:41:15,167
- Do you need a break,
Ms. Heard?
- Yes.
625
00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:16,616
Yes.
626
00:41:16,655 --> 00:41:19,925
Let the record reflect
Mr. Carter's answering
for Ms. Heard,
627
00:41:19,965 --> 00:41:22,305
yes, and Ms. Heard
had responded yes.
628
00:41:22,344 --> 00:41:23,794
We'll take a break.
629
00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:33,694
- Yeah.
630
00:41:38,724 --> 00:41:40,314
There were two officers
631
00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:43,454
from the LAPD who attendedJohnny and Amber's flat.
632
00:41:46,965 --> 00:41:48,655
No.
633
00:41:48,689 --> 00:41:50,689
The other officers came by.
634
00:41:50,724 --> 00:41:52,794
They found nothing at all.
635
00:41:52,827 --> 00:41:53,997
None of the marks,
636
00:41:54,034 --> 00:41:56,384
none of the injuries
that she suggested
was present.
637
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:08,690
Okay.
638
00:42:08,724 --> 00:42:12,974
Did you ever tell
any officers at your house
on May 21, 2016,
639
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,140
that the... that Johnny Depp
had ever done
640
00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:18,002
anything wrong to you
that night or before?
641
00:42:19,517 --> 00:42:21,587
You're asking me
if I've told them?
642
00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:24,070
if you told them
on May 21. Yes.
643
00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:27,553
Again, I said to them,
644
00:42:27,586 --> 00:42:31,026
I decline
to give any statement
at this time,
645
00:42:31,068 --> 00:42:34,068
as per the advice
of my counsel.
646
00:42:34,103 --> 00:42:35,283
Did the police--
647
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:39,070
They did make
a comment to me
about it seeming unsafe.
648
00:42:39,103 --> 00:42:41,173
That's why they needed
to check the apartment.
649
00:42:41,206 --> 00:42:43,786
They made
a gesture to my face.
650
00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:45,447
They said that I looked hurt.
651
00:42:45,482 --> 00:42:50,212
They also pulled me aside
and said, "Look,
652
00:42:50,241 --> 00:42:53,071
just say,
just say a statement.
653
00:42:53,103 --> 00:42:54,663
We can make sure you're safe.
654
00:42:54,689 --> 00:42:57,339
Just say a statement
or give us a statement
and we'll get the guy."
655
00:42:57,379 --> 00:43:01,619
They said the exact
same thing to Josh.
656
00:43:01,655 --> 00:43:06,275
Did...
Is it your testimony that
a police officer on May 21
657
00:43:06,310 --> 00:43:08,970
told you that it appeared
you looked hurt?
658
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,860
He gestured--
He or she gestured,
659
00:43:11,896 --> 00:43:14,786
I can't remember which one,
to my face and said,
660
00:43:14,827 --> 00:43:17,307
"It's... We can tell
you've been hurt
661
00:43:17,344 --> 00:43:19,524
or you don't look good"
or something to that effect.
662
00:43:19,551 --> 00:43:21,661
But I don't remember
the exact words they used.
663
00:43:24,965 --> 00:43:26,755
- Now it is, yes.
664
00:43:38,068 --> 00:43:41,138
One of the very
interesting features
of the case
665
00:43:41,172 --> 00:43:45,622
is that at no point
did she make
a criminal complaint
666
00:43:45,655 --> 00:43:50,375
or even go to the hospital
where the injuries she said
667
00:43:50,413 --> 00:43:52,933
she suffered could have been
easily documented
668
00:43:52,965 --> 00:43:55,445
and there would have been
no argument to be had.
669
00:43:55,482 --> 00:43:59,522
Did you ever report to any
law enforcement authority
670
00:43:59,551 --> 00:44:03,001
other than the police,
your claims that he did
these things?
671
00:44:03,034 --> 00:44:06,004
No, I attempted as best as
I could to hide this
672
00:44:07,517 --> 00:44:10,827
and keep our lives
as private as possible.
673
00:44:10,862 --> 00:44:13,242
And I did what a lot of
I guess women do.
674
00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,475
I tried to protect him.
675
00:44:16,068 --> 00:44:19,688
Amber Heard said
she didn't want the publicity.
676
00:44:19,724 --> 00:44:21,904
She didn't want to make
a complaint.
677
00:44:21,931 --> 00:44:24,551
But it's a very strange answer
in circumstances
678
00:44:24,586 --> 00:44:28,306
where she did make a call
straight away
to her publicist.
679
00:44:28,344 --> 00:44:30,244
And only six days later,
680
00:44:30,275 --> 00:44:33,065
she went to court when she,
as the evidence shows,
681
00:44:33,103 --> 00:44:36,003
she didn't need to
go to court just to turn up
682
00:44:36,034 --> 00:44:40,454
and file her restraining order
surrounded by paparazzi
683
00:44:40,482 --> 00:44:43,452
and with the most prominentappearing bruises.
684
00:44:46,448 --> 00:44:48,618
Our case was very much
685
00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:51,855
that she had manipulatedthe photographs.
686
00:44:51,896 --> 00:44:54,096
Two photographs takenalmost exactly the same time
687
00:44:54,137 --> 00:44:55,617
looked completely different.
688
00:44:57,931 --> 00:45:00,211
Did Johnny
brutalize you, Amber?
689
00:45:00,241 --> 00:45:02,311
Amber, did Johnny
pay you to stay quiet?
690
00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:04,861
Amber?
691
00:45:04,896 --> 00:45:06,236
Amber,
how are you feeling?
692
00:45:06,275 --> 00:45:08,585
Amber,
are you going to the doctor?
693
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:10,380
Amber,
what do you have to say
to Johnny?
694
00:45:30,103 --> 00:45:34,933
Just afterthe restraining orderwhich Amber Heard obtained,
695
00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:37,755
and she goes to his hotel roomin San Francisco
696
00:45:37,793 --> 00:45:40,663
where she asked to seeJohnny Depp.
697
00:45:46,827 --> 00:45:52,547
Now, the restraining order
says he is not to come within
100 yards of her
698
00:45:52,586 --> 00:45:57,066
and yet
she turns up on her own
to a hotel room where he is.
699
00:46:01,689 --> 00:46:04,309
The tape recordingwas made by her, not by him.
700
00:46:04,344 --> 00:46:05,764
He wasn't aware of it.
701
00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:15,825
And one of the first things
she does is to ask him
to hug her.
702
00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:41,030
- Fucking...
703
00:46:48,448 --> 00:46:51,208
And he says, why on earth
would I want to hug you
704
00:46:51,241 --> 00:46:53,621
when you said
all of this shit about me,
705
00:46:53,655 --> 00:46:54,995
which was a reference,
obviously,
706
00:46:55,034 --> 00:46:57,384
to the allegations
which has been
then been made public.
707
00:47:42,965 --> 00:47:47,545
But what happens afterwards
is just so bizarre
in circumstances
708
00:47:47,586 --> 00:47:51,336
where someone has said,
you have been so violent.
709
00:47:51,379 --> 00:47:54,689
I fear for my life
and I want the whole world
to know
710
00:47:54,724 --> 00:47:56,934
and I don't want you to come
anywhere near me.
711
00:47:56,965 --> 00:47:59,545
And that is
that she gets tired
712
00:47:59,586 --> 00:48:03,306
and she asks
if she can go to sleep
in his hotel room,
713
00:48:03,344 --> 00:48:08,904
in his bed,
and she invites him
into the bed and he declines.
714
00:48:51,344 --> 00:48:53,244
And he goes and sitsin the living room
715
00:48:53,275 --> 00:48:55,275
and this is the evidencehe gave.
716
00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:57,720
And he puts his headin his hands
717
00:48:57,758 --> 00:49:02,378
and he cries because he cannotunderstand how he's gotto this position
718
00:49:02,413 --> 00:49:06,453
where his ex-wife,who is accusing himof all of this nonsense,
719
00:49:06,482 --> 00:49:08,592
all of this shit,as he describes it,
720
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:10,100
and she doesn't deny that.
721
00:49:10,137 --> 00:49:12,827
He's lying in his bed.
722
00:49:12,862 --> 00:49:15,242
And that's, we say,
723
00:49:15,275 --> 00:49:19,515
such a powerful point
in demonstrating
724
00:49:19,551 --> 00:49:22,071
that these allegationswere untrue.
725
00:49:42,793 --> 00:49:44,793
What Sasha Wass QCwanted to get across
726
00:49:44,827 --> 00:49:48,167
is that this was a pattern
of behavior
of a domestic abuser.
727
00:49:48,206 --> 00:49:49,546
And throughout the trial,
728
00:49:49,586 --> 00:49:53,306
you heard evidence
that he had repeatedly
attacked Amber Heard.
729
00:49:59,724 --> 00:50:05,764
There was the charming,
sober, clean Mr. Depp,
who was a joy to be around.
730
00:50:05,793 --> 00:50:09,723
And then
there was what Mr. Depp
called, the monster,
731
00:50:09,758 --> 00:50:14,208
the man who would be drunk,
violent, and disagreeable.
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