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The human body perceives
information in different ways.
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One way it receives
information is through lights,
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and that's through our eyes.
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So, our eyes respond to
light for different colours,
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and those are the colours
of the rainbow that
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we're familiar with,
the red, orange, yellow,
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green, blue, indigo, and violet.
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So, if you talk about it
in numbers we can talk
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about that as being blue
light's about 400 nanometres
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in wavelength and the
red light is around about
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700 nanometres in wavelength.
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So, that section of the
electromagnetic spectrum
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is what we perceive with
our eyes, but that's a tiny
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section of the vast spectrum
that exists out there.
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You can have many other
wavelengths or other colours
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which we don't perceive.
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So, if we go to the red end
of the spectrum we see up
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to nice red colours,
beautiful sunset colours
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say for instance, but beyond
the red we have something
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we call infrared.
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Now, our eyes don't detect
that but our bodies can.
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We feel infrared as that
sensation of heat on your skin,
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so your skin has detectors
for that, but it's not
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what our eyes see.
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But it's like colour, but
our eyes don't see it.
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Beyond that we move out into microwaves
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and radio waves with
much longer wavelengths
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of up to several meters in length.
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And, those sort of wavelength
of light, or electromagnetic
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radiation are other colours,
if you like that we can't
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detect, not with our eyes
but we can detect those
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with radio telescopes.
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And, if you come down to the
other end beyond the blue
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and the violet we have
ultraviolet, which again we don't
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sense, although it effects
our skin by giving us
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sunburn for instance.
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We can go further down to
shorter and shorter wavelengths.
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We have such things as
gamma rays and x-rays.
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So, this whole spectrum of
light is a series of colours
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of which we only detect
a very, very narrow part,
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an extremely narrow part of
that whole spectrum of light.
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- S-T-S-U-V,
during the 1990s NASA
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carried out space shuttle
missions and recorded
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footage like this.
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In this footage of what
seems to be a formation
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of objects moving over the
earth, one object can be seen
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escaping the atmosphere
as we hear NASA explaining
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the technology that they
use to capture these images.
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- This
mission control Houston.
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This view is being taken
with the glow camera
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housed in Endeavour's payload bay as
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one of four different
experiments that are hitching
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a ride on the International
Extreme Ultraviolet
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Hitchhiker payload that is housed in
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Endeavour's payload bay.
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- A glow
camera is a nickname used
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for the technology that
can capture things which
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cannot be seen by the
human eye, but are visible
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in the ultraviolet light spectrum.
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Down here on the surface
of the Earth the atmosphere
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limits what radiation
can get to the ground.
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Optical light can obviously
get to the ground,
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'cause that's what we see with our eyes.
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We've evolved to accept that
radiation which comes to us
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from in the sky, from the
sun and from other stars.
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Some radio wavelengths
get through to the surface
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of the Earth, but most other
wavelengths are blocked.
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So, we're protected from
the vast amount of the
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ultraviolet wavelengths and
the gamma rays and x-rays.
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So, this is an aspect
of more recent astronomy
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which we've had to do from space.
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So, the space age has allowed
us to look at gamma rays
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from space and x-rays from
space and ultraviolet radiation
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from objects in space.
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- STS-80,
November 1996, this mission
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has given NASA fascinating
footage of what appears
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to be UFO sightings.
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Visual phenomena which
NASA have explained away
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as space ice and debris.
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We see in the recording
peculiar objects that seem
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to be moving over Africa.
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The most notable visualization
that occurs is an object
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that enters the camera's
shot in a transparent
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or almost corporeal state.
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Only to shine into existence
once it finds its position
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within the atmosphere.
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Furthermore there seems
to be multiple objects
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which appear to hold a circular formation
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with the final object
moving into the center
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and lighting up.
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The illuminated objects
seem to stay cohesively
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in this formation blinking
with the few along the top
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ascending back into orbit.
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Could space junk or ice perform
these kinds of manoeuvres?
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The seeming deliberate
nature of the movement
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of these objects seems near
impossible to explain away
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as naturally occurring phenomena.
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Former NASA employee James
O'Berg has determined
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the objects to be just ice,
which can be illuminated
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based on near Earth conditions.
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Other scientists like
Doctor Jack Kasher say that
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this explanation is impossible.
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NASA has had a number
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of cases where they have
dealt in some fashion
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with UFOs, and of course,
that is, I'm sure,
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classified and kept secret
and hidden from the public.
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- Throughout
NASA's history correspondents
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have been steadfast
and actively denied any
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UFO activity in space.
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However, we will see that
during the course of over
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20 STS missions NASA's own
space cameras have caught
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what is arguably the most
interesting UFO footage.
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Statistically, it's a
certainty there are hugely
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advanced civilizations,
intelligences, lifeforms out there.
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I believe they're so advance that
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they're even doing interstellar travel.
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I believe it's possible.
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But Musgrave is years later,
he seemed amused by them
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and definitely not threatened by them.
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So, you know all the
astronauts get trained
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in these phenomena.
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Suddenly, I look up and
I see these five lights
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and they seem to fly by.
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- One of our
pioneer astronauts was
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Brigadier General Jame McDivitt.
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In 1965, General McDivitt
spent four days in outer space
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as command pilot of Gemini IV.
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General Mdivitt have you ever seen a UFO?
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Yes, during my flight on Gemini IV in 1965
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I saw and object in space
fairly close to our spacecraft
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that I could not identify.
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It looked to me like maybe the upper stage
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of another rocket.
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I tried to take some pictures
of it, but unfortunately
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the pictures did not come out properly.
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We never were able to identify what it was
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and all our radar tracking data indicated
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that there shouldn't
have been another object
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anywhere near us at the time.
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There is abundant evidence
that we are being contacted,
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that civilizations have
been visiting us for
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a very long time.
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And, it was only later
when I began to embrace
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the UFO phenomena, the
cover up, studying all these
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organizations that were
covering up and having some
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direct experience myself
as a researcher no longer
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beholden to funding from NASA
or the university environment
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that I began to double
check some of Carl's work.
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And, I saw, for example, the
famous face in Cydonia in Mars
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photographed by Viking in
1975 which shows this gigantic
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human mesa that resembles a
human face about a mile across.
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Carl and I debated this
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and it was very, very
disappointing to be because
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not only was Carl wrong
he also fudged data.
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He published a picture of the face
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in Parade magazine, a popular
article, saying that the face
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is just a natural formation.
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But, he doctored the picture to make it
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not look like a face.
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And, I began to realize just
directly from a scientific
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point of view, not only
hearsay, that this man
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was colluding with NASA,
that there might be more
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to this than before.
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There are some people at
NASA that are working on
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material that's classified
so you would have
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different levels of security clearances
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and compartmentalized stuff especially at
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the top secret level.
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It was the same in Livermore,
although I did have
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a security clearance most of
the stuff that I worked on
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was compartmentalized
because well you had to have
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a need to know.
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And, they let you know enough
about it but it was not shared
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between departments, that material is not.
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- Even though
there have been credible,
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educated scientists like
Doctor Mitchell backing
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the theory that we are being
visited mainstream scientists
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like Doctor Andrew Jacob believe
that all of this technology
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is being used to detect
quasars or other scientifically
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accepted space phenomena.
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Andrew believes we are
building monumental technology
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to simply learn more about
our universe than we ever did.
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Radio telescopes see
things which are so faint
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they have to be extremely
large and sometimes you might
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combine multiple radio
telescopes together to get
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even more information.
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The big project in the
Australian outback and in
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southern Africa is the SKA
project, the Square Kilometre
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Array, concentrated in
western Australia, but spread
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across the whole country
and also there'll be another
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segment of it in southern Africa.
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Eventually, they'll be working
together and to produce
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a telescope almost the size of the Earth.
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But, the large collecting
area means it's an extremely
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sensitive telescope and
it's designed to detect
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pulsars, designed to
detect potential emissions
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if there's any aliens out there.
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If they discover a signal
that protocol tells them
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what they'll do with the
information and who they'll
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contact first and when they'll release it.
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The protocol says that it
will be released publicly,
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the knowledge will become
public, it won't stay private.
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You've got so many people
involved in these programs
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and people tell stories.
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People tell people things.
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No one is gonna be able
to keep it quiet if anyone
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finds a signal from elsewhere
or even any evidence
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whether it's intelligent
or not, but finding any
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evidence of life elsewhere in
the universe will be known.
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It won't be kept quiet.
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There's no way you could do that even if
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you wanted to, I'm sure.
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Top secret stuff could
be, for example, any craft
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that the astronauts saw when
they were up on the moon.
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And, there were code words
that would be used in
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that type of situation.
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There was an incident with
the space shuttle Discovery
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where Don Ratch who is a UFO
researcher was listening.
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He liked to listen to
the shuttle talking back
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and forth with Houston.
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After an hour and a half he
heard one of the astronauts
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say we have a fire.
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Maybe they had a fire, maybe they didn't.
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Nobody seemed to be getting excited.
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And, UFO researchers think
that what happens in that
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situation is that they have
spotted a UFO or some kind
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of extraterrestrial space
craft and that's a code
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that they use to describe that.
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So, he sat down right away
and started recording.
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- Houston, this
is Discovery we still have
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the alien spacecraft.
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And, a couple minutes
later he heard someone
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on that same channel he
had been listening to
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saying, and this is a direct quote,
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"Houston, this is Discovery
we still have the alien"
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"spacecraft under observance."
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NASA was presented with
that, they denied that that
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was an astronaut, although
it was on that same channel.
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I guess you need about 20
words for a voice print
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analysis and there are only
13 words so we could not
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prove that it was somebody
at NASA saying that.
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But, it was kind of fishy
because it was on that same
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channel that Don Ratch
had been listening to
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for a couple hours.
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That would have to be
a very classified topic
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because anything like that with UFOs
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would be classified to some extent.
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And, I know a number of
astronauts have seen UFOs
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but they're very reluctant
to talk about them.
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- SCS-73, mission
day three, October 21st,
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1995 astronaut Catherine
Coleman is seen peering out
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a capsule window when
she is heard saying this:
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- We have an
unidentified flying object.
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- The
communication goes silent.
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It is well known that the
space shuttle has two radio
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channels, one for public
broadcast and another which
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is an encrypted channel for
the Department of Defence.
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It remains possible that
the missing part of this
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transmission was sent on
the encrypted channel.
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Well, if there are code words
then I think it's pretty
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clear the astronauts would
have to know them before
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they go up into orbit.
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And then, if they use them
fine if they see something.
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- We see
another light going by
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on the ground there.
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It could have been a star, Bill.
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- Okay, roger.
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- With
another camera angle we get
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a little view of the
Astro-2 telescopes moving
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offscreen now as the
camera is panned upward.
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And, that gives us a look at the
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sky above Endeavour
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with stars visible
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on this black and white camera,
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a low light sensitive camera.
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But, we now have lost...
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That would have to come,
I would think, from some
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astronauts being debriefed
and mentioning that they
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had seen something or else
that NASA suspects that
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it's possible that they
might see something and so
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they developed some code words to use.
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- STS-63, another
interesting piece of footage
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with some equally interesting commentary.
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NASA claimed these to be
ice crystals that look
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like a bed of diamonds.
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However, when observing
this triangular formation
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of objects on the horizon
they seem to be entering
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the Earth's atmosphere at a slow pace.
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And, based on the distance
from the ISS these objects
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are large enough to be
prominent at such a distance.
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- Columbia,
Houston we're looking our
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payload bay camera and it
looks like a lot of moonlight
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glinting off the ocean, a
whole sparkling bed of diamonds
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out there, is that a real
picture or we just getting
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some video fuzz?
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- Say Houston
we're recording that.
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That's some of the ice
crystals that we were dumping
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out earlier, and yeah
it's a beautiful picture.
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But, when NASA developed
cameras that could see
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into invisible wavelengths
of light, into infrared,
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far infrared, and then
you get into near, far,
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and extreme ultraviolet
sensitivity this is when
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there was a wealth of phenomena.
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- Looks
like you got an object
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right in front of you Mark,
can you look out there?
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- I don't see
what you're talking about.
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- Nevermind.
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- Are we missing something?
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I don't see anything.
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- Yeah, we
think the camera filter
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came off, Mark.
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It's about your 10 o'clock,
11 o'clock going away.
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Don't worry about it.
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- Columbia,
Houston could you tell us
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what your TV view is showing?
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- Well,
the sun has actually risen
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on the belly side of the orbiter
so we're getting some light
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scattered down from a very
bright pale onto the camera lens
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and then those little
white dots moving around
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are little ice crystals
surrounding the orbiter.
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So, as we come into across
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the terminator guess we'll turn
on one of the colour cameras.
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- Copy that, I
was waiting for the opening
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credits of Star Trek to
go down the screen there.
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- Thank you,
there's a lot of people
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flipping out up here.
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- I'll bet, and we know.
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- STS-80, at the
beginning of this sequence
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we see an electrical storm taking place
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in the Earth's atmosphere.
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This high energy environment also shows
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multiple objects congregating nearby.
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We see the first object
materialize and descend
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into the middle of the
atmosphere where it slows down
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and then finally holds it's position.
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Would space ice be able
to stop and maintain
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it's pace so gracefully?
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I know that NASA uses
iridium for the mirrors
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to capture ultraviolet light
looking for space imagery.
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And, you know the astronauts
are trained to observe
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this phenomena, especially with
working with those cameras,
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special CCDs and sensors.
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You'll see these vaporous kind
of see through foggy looking
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discs that would be moving and assembling,
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and even assembling and stopping.
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With these cameras you're
not seeing all the light,
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you're only seeing part of it.
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And that's a very small
amount of light because it's
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the light that's interacting
with the background
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of the space environment.
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So, whatever space is
made of zero point energy,
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it's certainly not a vacuum,
it's exciting those particles
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and they emit a tiny bit of energy.
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You cannot buy a camera
over the counter today,
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professionally or legally, so it's kind of
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playing with that.
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I remember this one camera came out.
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I'm trying to remember
the name of the camera.
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It wasn't a Nikon or a
Canon or anything like that.
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It was like Sigma or something like that
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and accidentally it could
see ultraviolet light.
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And, after 1,000 units
of the camera got out
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they canceled all the sales.
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You couldn't buy it, I wanted to get one.
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You couldn't get one.
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And, it almost proved that
they didn't want people
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seeing in those spectra of light.
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- What seems
even more suspicious
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is the fact that the camera
man is manually tracking
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the object while filming.
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When it starts to ascend
from its initial position
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the camera zooms in and
focuses on the object.
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Is this not evidence that NASA
holds at least some interest
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in these phenomena?
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- What
attracted you to physics?
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I started teaching, taught
physics and astronomy here
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at Nebraska, Omaha for 34 years.
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And, during that time I
also taught for 17 summers
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and for a number of times during the year
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at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
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in Livermore, California.
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I had a security clearance
and I studied the effects
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of nuclear weapons.
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I studied electromagnetic
theory and nuclear theory,
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a bunch of different things
and atmospheric physics.
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And, I did that for 17 summers.
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And, that was a big part of my research.
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I also got a grant to work for NASA.
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00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:05,060
The Star Wars program came
into being about 1983 or so.
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And so, I had worked on
nuclear weapons and the effects
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from 75 on up through
there and other different
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electro magnetic theory problems.
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And, it was after 1983 and if
I were to guess maybe 1984, 85
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through 88, something like
that, I worked on the microwave
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laser and maybe other aspects
of the Star Wars program, too.
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There was supposed to be a
ground based system where
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you could shoot down the
missiles that would come out.
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00:21:35,055 --> 00:21:36,994
And, we also were gonna
have space platforms.
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I think the x-ray laser was gonna be up on
401
00:21:38,974 --> 00:21:41,415
the space platform, but that
was gonna be a part of it
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00:21:41,415 --> 00:21:46,404
that we have space satellites
up there with the weapons
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00:21:46,404 --> 00:21:49,415
that would then come into use
if they ever had to be used.
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00:21:49,415 --> 00:21:52,823
I don't know where they are
now, but they're at least
405
00:21:52,823 --> 00:21:55,553
close enough to using
it that we had to study
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00:21:55,553 --> 00:21:57,764
what would happen with it.
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00:21:57,764 --> 00:22:01,931
- STS-48, September
13th, 1991 it appears
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00:22:02,794 --> 00:22:05,754
there is something coming
from the Earth's surface
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00:22:05,754 --> 00:22:09,244
in response to an object
entering the atmosphere.
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00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:12,444
Soon after this footage was
shot Doctor Kasher wrote
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00:22:12,444 --> 00:22:15,615
a full scientific analysis of the event.
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00:22:15,615 --> 00:22:20,152
He submitted his findings
to NASA and the public.
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00:22:20,152 --> 00:22:22,444
You need training or
understanding on how to deal with
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something that's vaporous
and not easy to see,
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00:22:25,434 --> 00:22:29,906
but yet is showing up on these
cameras and is not physical.
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00:22:29,906 --> 00:22:32,324
So, they didn't know whether
to believe it or not,
417
00:22:32,324 --> 00:22:33,876
but he was mystified.
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00:22:33,876 --> 00:22:36,004
The data was there, it was clearly there.
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00:22:36,004 --> 00:22:39,927
- And, what
got you interested in STS-48?
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00:22:39,927 --> 00:22:43,356
Why is this an important
event that took place
421
00:22:43,356 --> 00:22:45,063
in NASA researches?
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00:22:45,063 --> 00:22:49,764
It was 1991, September 15th,
I believe, and Don Ratch
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again, was taking some video
on the NASA select TV station
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that they broadcast out
for everybody to watch,
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00:22:58,314 --> 00:23:01,994
sent it to Harry Jordan, one
of my cohorts here in Omaha.
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00:23:01,994 --> 00:23:04,562
And, he shared the video with me.
427
00:23:04,562 --> 00:23:06,714
And, we both looked at it
and knew there was something
428
00:23:06,714 --> 00:23:10,063
really going on here,
something quite interesting.
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00:23:10,063 --> 00:23:14,841
And so, I was on the
Sightings television program
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and I kind of showed some
of the trajectories and all.
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And, because of that I
was put in contact with
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00:23:20,423 --> 00:23:24,463
an individual at the University
of Wisconsin in Milwaukee
433
00:23:24,463 --> 00:23:29,282
who studied little critters
that move in Lake Michigan.
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00:23:29,282 --> 00:23:32,663
And, they had a grid that
they put over the television
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picture and so they could
trace in 1/30th of a second
436
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intervals where the objects were.
437
00:23:39,095 --> 00:23:41,684
And so, this was completely ideal to use.
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And so, I got a grant from
the Fund for UFO Research
439
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and they overlaid the
television picture and I got
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00:23:49,583 --> 00:23:53,083
all kinds of position time coordinates for
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all the bunch of the little lights that
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00:23:56,682 --> 00:23:58,765
were in the STS-48 video.
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00:24:00,130 --> 00:24:03,963
And, taking those data
I was able to calculate
444
00:24:06,191 --> 00:24:09,692
all kinds of several different
motions, accelerations,
445
00:24:09,692 --> 00:24:12,532
and velocities and so
on, in three dimensions.
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00:24:12,532 --> 00:24:16,212
And, the result of that
was that I developed
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00:24:16,212 --> 00:24:19,129
five direct proofs that the objects
448
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:23,452
in the video were not ice particles,
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00:24:23,452 --> 00:24:26,892
which is kind of the
first bail out explanation
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00:24:26,892 --> 00:24:28,452
that people that would look at it
451
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might say that these objects might be.
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And so, with my five proofs
just from the data itself,
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analyzing all the velocities
and so on I proved
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that they could not be ice particles.
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00:24:42,352 --> 00:24:44,170
And so, what were they then?
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You don't have any more options.
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00:24:45,932 --> 00:24:50,663
If they're not ice particles
they can't be comets,
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00:24:50,663 --> 00:24:53,302
they can't be meteors,
they can't be satellites,
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00:24:53,302 --> 00:24:54,674
because they don't change direction
460
00:24:54,674 --> 00:24:56,594
and these things change direction.
461
00:24:56,594 --> 00:25:00,761
And so, that leaves you
just with one other option,
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00:25:01,753 --> 00:25:02,782
some kind of space craft.
463
00:25:02,782 --> 00:25:06,183
In the case of STS-48 I
think it was very similar.
464
00:25:06,183 --> 00:25:09,444
I think they saw something
coming in and they shot at it.
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The air glow and right
below it, hard to see,
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is the surface of the Earth.
467
00:25:14,342 --> 00:25:16,675
This is the Earth down here.
468
00:25:17,796 --> 00:25:20,122
This is above the atmosphere.
469
00:25:20,122 --> 00:25:21,775
That's a star.
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This is the second object
that is of interest to us.
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And, it's slowly coming
up, as you can see.
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In a little bit you're
gonna see the main object
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pop up here, go over, and you'll
see some flashes down here.
474
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And then, it's gonna
sharply cut back here.
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00:25:46,404 --> 00:25:48,716
Seconds later a streak is
gonna go through there,
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00:25:48,716 --> 00:25:49,570
right where it had been.
477
00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:53,737
Here we go, and there's
gonna be a flash down here.
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There's your flash, here it goes.
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00:26:06,282 --> 00:26:08,780
And, there goes the streak.
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00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:12,760
And, there's a second streak
right there, hard to see.
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00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,573
And, these objects are moving, too.
482
00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:18,421
This one actually moved
up in this direction
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00:26:18,421 --> 00:26:19,754
after the flash.
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00:26:20,853 --> 00:26:24,491
So, that's the main thing
and these two objects here
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are the ones that are of
interest, plus the streak
486
00:26:27,731 --> 00:26:31,212
which is a different type of
quality that goes through there
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00:26:31,212 --> 00:26:34,129
right after the main object leaves.
488
00:26:35,442 --> 00:26:38,821
You can't tell by watching
the video but the main object
489
00:26:38,821 --> 00:26:42,179
actually paused for half
a second before it turned
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back up the other direction.
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00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,032
- Discovery Houston,
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00:26:46,032 --> 00:26:46,865
continue.
And, we're gonna
493
00:26:46,865 --> 00:26:50,474
continue on here and they're
gonna bring the camera
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00:26:50,474 --> 00:26:53,253
down and put it away in the cargo bay.
495
00:26:53,253 --> 00:26:55,474
I don't know what this
thing is, but it's really
496
00:26:55,474 --> 00:26:57,184
a very interesting object, too.
497
00:26:57,184 --> 00:26:58,613
- Water
dump, attitude will take
498
00:26:58,613 --> 00:27:01,333
about 15 minutes and in order
to start the dump on time
499
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,553
we'd like for you to do that manoeuvre now.
500
00:27:03,553 --> 00:27:05,600
We need it to prevent contamination.
501
00:27:09,944 --> 00:27:11,781
- Okay, understand
you want us to start
502
00:27:11,781 --> 00:27:13,364
the spa water dump.
503
00:27:14,202 --> 00:27:16,050
And, it's coming down,
you're gonna be able to see
504
00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:19,830
that it was focused at
infinity because once it gets
505
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:23,770
down here the side of cargo
bay is gonna be out of focus.
506
00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:26,311
And, here's the side of
the cargo bay out of focus
507
00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:28,634
and then they'll refocus
it, now you can see it.
508
00:27:28,634 --> 00:27:30,879
Then, it's gonna turn toward
the front and you're gonna
509
00:27:30,879 --> 00:27:34,050
be able to see the whole
front of the cargo bay.
510
00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:35,210
So, here it goes.
511
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:38,890
The way they behaved out
there depending on how far
512
00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:43,057
away from the shuttle they were
was an extraordinary thing.
513
00:27:44,402 --> 00:27:46,450
To the extent that if they
were 10 miles or farther
514
00:27:46,450 --> 00:27:48,472
from the shuttle they
were behaving in ways that
515
00:27:48,472 --> 00:27:51,904
were vastly beyond anything
that we can do on the Earth.
516
00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:55,911
Four NASA employees were given
this to offer their opinion.
517
00:27:55,911 --> 00:27:59,320
They just watched the video,
they did no analysis of it.
518
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,642
And, what they came up with
was reasonable that it had
519
00:28:02,642 --> 00:28:05,522
to be ice particles and
that's as far as they took it.
520
00:28:05,522 --> 00:28:08,263
Did not say a single thing
about there were two streaks
521
00:28:08,263 --> 00:28:11,552
that went up through there,
like you might expect
522
00:28:11,552 --> 00:28:12,385
from a missile.
523
00:28:12,385 --> 00:28:16,333
I was able to rule out at
least five different proofs
524
00:28:16,333 --> 00:28:19,314
that they were not ice particles.
525
00:28:19,314 --> 00:28:22,532
And, if they weren't they
only other viable option
526
00:28:22,532 --> 00:28:24,442
is some kind of space craft.
527
00:28:24,442 --> 00:28:27,874
And, the way it behaved,
again I can't prove how far
528
00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:30,941
away it was from the shuttle,
if it was a mile away
529
00:28:30,941 --> 00:28:35,230
that's unbelievably
close, that's dangerous.
530
00:28:35,230 --> 00:28:39,671
If it's 10 miles away it
accelerated in a fashion
531
00:28:39,671 --> 00:28:43,312
that was beyond anything that
humans could stand, 100 Gs
532
00:28:43,312 --> 00:28:47,512
it would be, which would
destroy a human being.
533
00:28:47,512 --> 00:28:51,072
And then, as you start
going out beyond 10 miles
534
00:28:51,072 --> 00:28:53,642
then we're talking about
quantum leaps in technology
535
00:28:53,642 --> 00:28:56,083
beyond what we have.
536
00:28:56,083 --> 00:29:00,424
And so, to me the logical
conclusion is that these
537
00:29:00,424 --> 00:29:03,453
were space craft from
somewhere else out in space
538
00:29:03,453 --> 00:29:04,903
away from the shuttle.
539
00:29:04,903 --> 00:29:07,984
And, it's hard to explain
those two streaks that
540
00:29:07,984 --> 00:29:12,394
went through there unless
it is in terms of one good
541
00:29:12,394 --> 00:29:14,893
explanation might be
that they were missiles
542
00:29:14,893 --> 00:29:16,173
that we might be firing at them.
543
00:29:16,173 --> 00:29:17,805
And, that's a scary thing, too.
544
00:29:17,805 --> 00:29:21,472
But, I don't believe that their craft that
545
00:29:22,836 --> 00:29:25,856
the military would be alarmed about.
546
00:29:25,856 --> 00:29:29,746
I think it's possible the
military could be preparing
547
00:29:29,746 --> 00:29:34,625
for some type of space war
based on their own paranoia
548
00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:38,405
and their own schizophrenia
about not being able to handle
549
00:29:38,405 --> 00:29:40,295
what cameras are seeing.
550
00:29:40,295 --> 00:29:42,936
- At the end of
NASA's Atlantis shuttle mission
551
00:29:42,936 --> 00:29:46,325
the STS-115, when the
crew was supposed to make
552
00:29:46,325 --> 00:29:49,885
a controlled re-entry into
the Earth's atmosphere
553
00:29:49,885 --> 00:29:54,226
a UFO tracked the space station
and blocked the entry way.
554
00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:58,037
This was a potentially
dangerous event that could have
555
00:29:58,037 --> 00:30:00,666
resulted in the death of
the crew had there been
556
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:03,357
a collision or an unexpected redirection
557
00:30:03,357 --> 00:30:04,696
during their descent.
558
00:30:04,696 --> 00:30:08,404
NASA's explanation was
that this large object
559
00:30:08,404 --> 00:30:10,904
was simply a piece of plastic.
560
00:30:20,918 --> 00:30:25,736
But, a piece of plastic very
much like this that's used
561
00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:28,569
to install tiles was there before,
562
00:30:30,882 --> 00:30:32,502
is most likely what we saw in that
563
00:30:32,502 --> 00:30:33,933
camera view floating away.
564
00:30:35,693 --> 00:30:38,362
Crazy alert, aliens after Atlantis?
565
00:30:38,362 --> 00:30:40,842
Official video from the latest
NASA space shuttle mission
566
00:30:40,842 --> 00:30:44,421
appears to show what
might be UFOs in space.
567
00:30:44,421 --> 00:30:47,701
A segment from the live NASA
feed shows the cargo bay
568
00:30:47,701 --> 00:30:50,190
of the space shuttle Atlantis
and what appears to be
569
00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:53,722
three flying objects
directly above the shuttle.
570
00:30:53,722 --> 00:30:56,819
The objects are in motion
in a triangular formation,
571
00:30:56,819 --> 00:30:59,522
how we often imagine UFOs might move.
572
00:30:59,522 --> 00:31:01,744
The narrator of the live
feed tries to explain
573
00:31:01,744 --> 00:31:05,394
the objects away with a
less than convincing story,
574
00:31:05,394 --> 00:31:07,093
take a listen.
575
00:31:07,093 --> 00:31:08,314
- This
is mission control Houston
576
00:31:08,314 --> 00:31:11,220
with Atlantis Commander
Brent Jett talking with us.
577
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,712
Trent Terry works here in
mission control, about an object
578
00:31:13,712 --> 00:31:18,030
the crew members floated
outside the windows of
579
00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:19,249
the space shuttle Atlantis.
580
00:31:19,249 --> 00:31:23,416
Describing it as some kind
of reflective or metallic
581
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:28,529
looking cloth but definitely
not a rigid or a metal object.
582
00:31:28,529 --> 00:31:31,718
Yeah right, there just
happened to be three identical
583
00:31:31,718 --> 00:31:34,110
pieces of massive metallic
cloth moving around
584
00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:36,329
in a constant formation in space.
585
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,820
Certainly, one of the most
convincing UFO videos yet
586
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:41,350
it appears more likely than
ever that we might have
587
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:43,350
company in our universe.
588
00:31:46,289 --> 00:31:48,678
- Gary McKinnon
has been a prolific figure
589
00:31:48,678 --> 00:31:51,878
in the hacking world since
2002 when he committed
590
00:31:51,878 --> 00:31:56,180
the biggest military server
security break in in history.
591
00:31:56,180 --> 00:32:00,198
In 2003, he became subject
to bail conditions including
592
00:32:00,198 --> 00:32:03,860
a requirement to sign in
at his local police station
593
00:32:03,860 --> 00:32:08,438
every evening and to remain at
his home address every night.
594
00:32:08,438 --> 00:32:12,380
If extradited to the U.S. and
charged McKinnon would have
595
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:15,809
to face up to 70 years in prison.
596
00:32:15,809 --> 00:32:16,766
Here's your list of charges.
597
00:32:16,766 --> 00:32:19,329
You hacked into the Army,
the Navy, the Air Force,
598
00:32:19,329 --> 00:32:22,870
the Department of Defence and
NASA amongst other things.
599
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:23,703
Why?
600
00:32:24,668 --> 00:32:26,609
I was in search of suppressed technology.
601
00:32:26,609 --> 00:32:29,228
- I'm here with
Gary McKinnon and we're here
602
00:32:29,228 --> 00:32:33,395
to talk about his possible
extradition to the United States
603
00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:38,827
for some hacking that he's
done and some investigation
604
00:32:39,689 --> 00:32:43,856
he's also done on the part
of UFOs and disclosure.
605
00:32:45,329 --> 00:32:49,467
Maybe you could explain
exactly what you're in for
606
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:53,531
or up for, I guess,
might be a better word.
607
00:32:53,531 --> 00:32:56,449
Apparently, it's seven
counts of intentional
608
00:32:56,449 --> 00:32:59,280
malicious damage and unauthorized access.
609
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,588
Each count carrying 10 years maximum.
610
00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,558
- Exactly what
were you looking for
611
00:33:03,558 --> 00:33:05,909
when you were doing this?
612
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:09,538
At first I was looking for
anything to do with UFOs.
613
00:33:09,538 --> 00:33:14,337
As I got more into the
subject and listened to more
614
00:33:14,337 --> 00:33:16,497
serious talk and discussion
about the subject
615
00:33:16,497 --> 00:33:19,549
and was introduce to
the Disclosure Project
616
00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:23,709
I realized there were
400 witness testimonials
617
00:33:23,709 --> 00:33:25,819
from people that worked
from everything as simple as
618
00:33:25,819 --> 00:33:28,491
air traffic control up to
military radio operators
619
00:33:28,491 --> 00:33:30,237
right up to the men and women
in charge of whether or not
620
00:33:30,237 --> 00:33:32,197
to launch nuclear missiles.
621
00:33:32,197 --> 00:33:33,968
I thought, these are
surely credible people.
622
00:33:33,968 --> 00:33:36,328
I've been doing this every
night, all night practically
623
00:33:36,328 --> 00:33:40,768
for two years not really
looking after myself very much.
624
00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:43,386
So, data things are a bit
mangled 'cause it wasn't even
625
00:33:43,386 --> 00:33:44,906
really a hack to get into it.
626
00:33:44,906 --> 00:33:46,875
It was just large scale
phishing of like passwords.
627
00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:51,743
The administrator account, a
lot of the time on a corporate
628
00:33:51,743 --> 00:33:54,772
network or a large organization
like the Army or the NASA
629
00:33:54,772 --> 00:33:57,571
isn't actually used, there
isn't an administrator.
630
00:33:57,571 --> 00:33:59,322
But, it's a built in account,
so you can't delete it.
631
00:33:59,322 --> 00:34:00,852
You can rename it.
632
00:34:00,852 --> 00:34:03,532
But, that's for say if
someone wanted to do something
633
00:34:03,532 --> 00:34:06,162
system wide across the
whole network they would use
634
00:34:06,162 --> 00:34:08,452
that account to log in
remotely because that gives you
635
00:34:08,452 --> 00:34:09,983
full control over the machine.
636
00:34:09,983 --> 00:34:12,080
Well obviously, they must have IT staff
637
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,812
that look after things.
638
00:34:13,812 --> 00:34:16,074
- Right, and didn't
you encounter one such
639
00:34:16,074 --> 00:34:19,583
person or was he an IT
guy on the other end?
640
00:34:19,583 --> 00:34:22,132
Yeah, yeah he was a network engineer.
641
00:34:22,132 --> 00:34:26,153
Because I had graphical remote
control of the machines,
642
00:34:26,153 --> 00:34:27,860
like literally like sitting
in the chair opposite
643
00:34:27,860 --> 00:34:31,690
the screen, opposite the
monitor I think I must have
644
00:34:31,690 --> 00:34:34,279
got the time zone wrong or
he was working late hours
645
00:34:34,279 --> 00:34:35,789
or whatever, but he
obviously saw the mouse
646
00:34:35,789 --> 00:34:37,220
moving across the screen.
647
00:34:37,220 --> 00:34:40,170
And, next thing I know word
pad flashes up and someone
648
00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:42,551
types, "Who are you?"
649
00:34:42,551 --> 00:34:45,140
And, I panicked, didn't
want to get caught.
650
00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:47,759
I thought very quickly on
my feet and turned around
651
00:34:47,759 --> 00:34:50,490
my own investigations into an explanation.
652
00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:53,119
So on the screen I said,
"I'm from NIPRNet Security,"
653
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,970
which is the non-classified
internet protocol
654
00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:57,519
and router network.
655
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,690
"And, obviously there was
some unauthorized scanning"
656
00:34:59,690 --> 00:35:02,479
"coming from this machine and
I'm here to investigate it."
657
00:35:02,479 --> 00:35:06,447
And, he immediately, he was a
good ploy to my human nature
658
00:35:06,447 --> 00:35:08,410
tried to impress me with
his knowledge and show me
659
00:35:08,410 --> 00:35:11,279
this little virus scan
and pretty much showed me
660
00:35:11,279 --> 00:35:13,147
that the machine was clean.
661
00:35:13,147 --> 00:35:13,980
- Wow.
662
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:15,450
And then, moved along.
663
00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:17,086
- So, what did you find out?
664
00:35:17,086 --> 00:35:20,605
About the UFO thing, as
far as I'm concerned,
665
00:35:20,605 --> 00:35:22,067
it may sound circumstantial to some,
666
00:35:22,067 --> 00:35:24,867
but as far as I'm concerned it's proven.
667
00:35:24,867 --> 00:35:27,366
As part of the Disclosure
Project, there was Donna Hare,
668
00:35:27,366 --> 00:35:31,533
a NASA photographic scientist
who had up to secret clearance
669
00:35:32,406 --> 00:35:34,387
was in building eight
in Johnson Space Center,
670
00:35:34,387 --> 00:35:35,937
she says in the testimony.
671
00:35:35,937 --> 00:35:38,886
And, that one of her
colleagues was doing some
672
00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:41,715
photographic work, invited
her over to look at it
673
00:35:41,715 --> 00:35:43,854
and she saw a high res
satellite imagery maybe
674
00:35:43,854 --> 00:35:46,770
half a k above the treetops,
I think it was like
675
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:49,873
a white disc and she at
first thought, ah it's a blob
676
00:35:49,873 --> 00:35:52,520
in the emulsion, it's some kind of fault
677
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,911
in the photographic process.
678
00:35:53,911 --> 00:35:56,281
And he said, "Well look, blobs
in the emulsion don't have"
679
00:35:56,281 --> 00:35:58,561
"perfectly formed shadows
going in the same direction
680
00:35:58,561 --> 00:36:00,151
"as the trees," et cetera, et cetera,
681
00:36:00,151 --> 00:36:02,018
all the detail was there.
682
00:36:02,018 --> 00:36:04,239
And, she basically was saying
that they had this whole
683
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,719
place in building eight
for air brushing out UFOs
684
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,820
on a regular basis
'cause they then sent on,
685
00:36:09,820 --> 00:36:13,009
NASA sent on their images to
universities and the like.
686
00:36:13,009 --> 00:36:16,831
And, having been all over other
NASA installations already
687
00:36:16,831 --> 00:36:19,191
I assumed the blank password
scanning method would work
688
00:36:19,191 --> 00:36:22,060
the same in Johnson
Space Center and it did.
689
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:23,871
Once I was in there I used
various network commands
690
00:36:23,871 --> 00:36:26,768
to strip out the machines
that were in building eight.
691
00:36:26,768 --> 00:36:30,109
And, got onto to those and
the very first one I was on
692
00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:31,649
literally had what she said.
693
00:36:31,649 --> 00:36:34,399
I can't remember if it was
filtered in raw processed
694
00:36:34,399 --> 00:36:36,708
and unprocessed, but it
was definitely photos
695
00:36:36,708 --> 00:36:39,106
whereby there was a transformation
in the data taking place
696
00:36:39,106 --> 00:36:41,273
between one and the other.
697
00:36:42,397 --> 00:36:44,416
These folders were full
of images in a proprietary
698
00:36:44,416 --> 00:36:47,386
NASA format or in a format
I'd never seen before,
699
00:36:47,386 --> 00:36:48,803
no jpegs or gifs.
700
00:36:49,866 --> 00:36:52,815
They were also two to
three megabytes in size,
701
00:36:52,815 --> 00:36:54,786
big on a 56k dial up modem.
702
00:36:54,786 --> 00:36:56,368
There was no way I was gonna download it,
703
00:36:56,368 --> 00:36:58,637
it's like five minutes per megabyte.
704
00:36:58,637 --> 00:37:00,776
So, what I did, the remote
control program that
705
00:37:00,776 --> 00:37:03,056
gives you graphical control
of the machine turned
706
00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:05,254
the resolution right down,
turned it down to I think
707
00:37:05,254 --> 00:37:08,421
four bit colour and then on the desktop
708
00:37:09,448 --> 00:37:11,677
of the NASA machine
navigated to the folder,
709
00:37:11,677 --> 00:37:13,906
double clicked on the first image.
710
00:37:13,906 --> 00:37:16,117
The application launched, the
image comes up on the screen
711
00:37:16,117 --> 00:37:18,700
but it's still very, very slow.
712
00:37:20,837 --> 00:37:22,136
And, what I saw, I was
hoping to see was exactly
713
00:37:22,136 --> 00:37:26,074
what she was describing, saucers
and very definite imagery.
714
00:37:26,074 --> 00:37:28,746
And, what instead I saw
was I assume was the Earth,
715
00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:31,346
this is in sort of shades of
Gray, but you had the Earth's
716
00:37:31,346 --> 00:37:34,965
hemisphere, took about
2/3rds of the screen.
717
00:37:34,965 --> 00:37:37,357
And then, halfway between
the top of the hemisphere
718
00:37:37,357 --> 00:37:39,546
and the bottom of the
picture there was a classic
719
00:37:39,546 --> 00:37:43,045
sort of cigar shaped object,
but you know with those
720
00:37:43,045 --> 00:37:47,157
little golf ball domes,
geodesic domes above, below,
721
00:37:47,157 --> 00:37:49,055
and on this side, and I
assume the other side as well,
722
00:37:49,055 --> 00:37:51,936
so the left and right as
well, and was very slightly
723
00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:53,686
flattened cigar ends.
724
00:37:54,997 --> 00:37:59,256
No seams, no rivets, no sort
of telemetry and antennae.
725
00:37:59,256 --> 00:38:02,288
When it was photographed it
was about 3/4 of the way down
726
00:38:02,288 --> 00:38:03,429
on the screen.
727
00:38:03,429 --> 00:38:05,608
And, you're seeing the
mouse move, you right click
728
00:38:05,608 --> 00:38:09,128
the local area network
icon changes to disconnect.
729
00:38:09,128 --> 00:38:11,229
Natch, that's me, and
that's why it was such
730
00:38:11,229 --> 00:38:12,062
a strange moment.
731
00:38:12,062 --> 00:38:14,708
It was triumphant in a way,
I thought, I've completely
732
00:38:14,708 --> 00:38:16,509
corroborated what Donna Hare has said.
733
00:38:16,509 --> 00:38:20,469
- On October 16,
2012 then Home Secretary
734
00:38:20,469 --> 00:38:23,486
Theresa May announced
to the House of Commons
735
00:38:23,486 --> 00:38:26,006
that the extradition had
been blocked saying that
736
00:38:26,006 --> 00:38:29,058
Mister McKinnon is
accused of serious crimes,
737
00:38:29,058 --> 00:38:32,888
however McKinnon happens to
suffer from Asperger's Syndrome
738
00:38:32,888 --> 00:38:35,349
as well as other depressive illnesses.
739
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:38,317
Because of this the decision
to extradite was considered
740
00:38:38,317 --> 00:38:40,938
incompatible with his basic human rights.
741
00:38:40,938 --> 00:38:43,995
This case highlights a
potential truth embargo
742
00:38:43,995 --> 00:38:47,090
and the lengths that
major governments might go
743
00:38:47,090 --> 00:38:48,673
to protect secrets.
744
00:38:53,818 --> 00:38:55,888
And again, once again, I
know cameras have gotten
745
00:38:55,888 --> 00:38:58,347
so much better that it's
very possible that they're
746
00:38:58,347 --> 00:39:02,347
able to see these things
in the colour spectrums.
747
00:40:40,666 --> 00:40:43,400
- After exploring
potential hard evidence
748
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,127
for UFOs in outer space
what about all the sightings
749
00:40:47,127 --> 00:40:49,377
that have occurred on land?
750
00:41:16,581 --> 00:41:19,610
- Tell me about
the first time you noticed
751
00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:22,388
something strange in
the sky above Dunedoo.
752
00:41:22,388 --> 00:41:26,221
Well, I came out here
in late 2012 in August
753
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,701
and pretty much the second
night I was staying here
754
00:41:29,701 --> 00:41:32,149
I noticed a strange ball
of light moving across
755
00:41:32,149 --> 00:41:35,320
the house in the backyard
on the property behind us.
756
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,501
And, it was moving very
slow over the rooftops.
757
00:41:38,501 --> 00:41:40,130
And, it was actually
illuminating the rooftops
758
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:42,713
underneath it as it was moving.
759
00:41:46,718 --> 00:41:48,747
This
thing is phenomenal.
760
00:41:48,747 --> 00:41:51,665
It was just highly unusual,
and this was around 11 p.m.
761
00:41:51,665 --> 00:41:53,016
in the evening.
762
00:41:53,016 --> 00:41:55,438
And, in this town here
there's not many people
763
00:41:55,438 --> 00:41:56,707
who are up at night.
764
00:41:56,707 --> 00:41:57,798
There's not many street lights.
765
00:41:57,798 --> 00:42:01,827
The town prides itself on
being one of the astronomy
766
00:42:01,827 --> 00:42:05,557
capitals of Australia
because of the fact they not
767
00:42:05,557 --> 00:42:07,715
much light pollution like in the city.
768
00:42:07,715 --> 00:42:11,644
So, yeah the second night I
was here I saw a very strange,
769
00:42:11,644 --> 00:42:13,854
large, spherical ball
which was half the size
770
00:42:13,854 --> 00:42:16,031
of the house hovering above the house
771
00:42:16,031 --> 00:42:18,062
and then heading north,
in the direction north
772
00:42:18,062 --> 00:42:21,170
it was very unusual so and it just
773
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:25,361
continued since then
unabated, the sightings.
774
00:42:25,361 --> 00:42:28,129
It's been a lot of
people have seen it now,
775
00:42:28,129 --> 00:42:30,649
up to 80 people have
come up here and seen it
776
00:42:30,649 --> 00:42:31,700
from all over in Australia.
777
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,978
And, it's just getting
bigger and bigger in number,
778
00:42:34,978 --> 00:42:37,497
the actual eye witnesses
to what's going on.
779
00:42:37,497 --> 00:42:38,475
- I mean,
how long do you think it's
780
00:42:38,475 --> 00:42:42,797
gonna take till people accept
that these things are real?
781
00:42:42,797 --> 00:42:43,630
How do you mean accept?
782
00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:44,847
At what level of the population becomes,
783
00:42:44,847 --> 00:42:47,666
you mean when it becomes
a socially logical,
784
00:42:47,666 --> 00:42:49,616
sociologically real, I don't know.
785
00:42:49,616 --> 00:42:51,397
When does it reach a level like that?
786
00:42:51,397 --> 00:42:52,887
It won't happen in Australia.
787
00:42:52,887 --> 00:42:56,186
Our most favorite TV
show, new TV show started
788
00:42:56,186 --> 00:42:59,117
it was a belly flop thing
where people jump off
789
00:42:59,117 --> 00:43:01,618
the sides of pool to see
how big the splash they make
790
00:43:01,618 --> 00:43:03,058
in the pool.
791
00:43:03,058 --> 00:43:05,065
That's a TV show.
792
00:43:05,065 --> 00:43:09,437
If that can get aired how
would this stuff get aired?
793
00:43:09,437 --> 00:43:11,418
- Can you
talk a little bit about that
794
00:43:11,418 --> 00:43:14,887
'cause I'm very interested
in the fact that people
795
00:43:14,887 --> 00:43:17,387
tend to absorb their time with
796
00:43:18,498 --> 00:43:22,445
sort of nonsensical information, right,
797
00:43:22,445 --> 00:43:25,618
things that just don't really
advance their thinking?
798
00:43:25,618 --> 00:43:28,898
You've got people that are
watching belly flop shows, right?
799
00:43:28,898 --> 00:43:31,018
That was great that you talked about that.
800
00:43:31,018 --> 00:43:33,970
Tell me how you can relate
that to maybe somebody
801
00:43:33,970 --> 00:43:36,349
who spends way too much
time watching footie,
802
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:37,829
a bunch of guys smashing...
It's the same thing,
803
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:38,810
there's no difference.
804
00:43:38,810 --> 00:43:39,810
- Go ahead, talk about that.
805
00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:42,336
What our problem it's the
dumbing down of society.
806
00:43:42,336 --> 00:43:44,989
It's across, it's cross-cultural.
807
00:43:44,989 --> 00:43:46,748
You're not supposed to think anymore.
808
00:43:46,748 --> 00:43:49,309
What's really scary to
me is if you watch that
809
00:43:49,309 --> 00:43:53,679
morose garbage on TV and
drink special amounts
810
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:56,609
of methyl alcohol and put
your money in a special box
811
00:43:56,609 --> 00:43:58,919
where you have very high
odds of pulling it and follow
812
00:43:58,919 --> 00:44:01,257
a football team through an
inflatable bladder around
813
00:44:01,257 --> 00:44:04,778
and go to work and die at
62.3 having 2.4 kids that's
814
00:44:04,778 --> 00:44:07,389
normal, but actually
looking up into the sky
815
00:44:07,389 --> 00:44:08,938
and looking at things,
or looking at stuff from
816
00:44:08,938 --> 00:44:10,618
a slightly different angle is not normal?
817
00:44:10,618 --> 00:44:12,447
That's what really scares me
'cause what we're interested
818
00:44:12,447 --> 00:44:14,858
in is technically not normal.
819
00:44:14,858 --> 00:44:18,119
And, as Damien told you he
almost attracted a psychiatric
820
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:20,959
label for filming what he's seeing.
821
00:44:20,959 --> 00:44:22,458
So, they're implying
it was a hallucination,
822
00:44:22,458 --> 00:44:23,727
but he's filming it.
823
00:44:23,727 --> 00:44:26,108
To me, you're attracting a
decent case of medication
824
00:44:26,108 --> 00:44:28,508
if you feel I can film my hallucination.
825
00:44:28,508 --> 00:44:30,737
That a doctor can suggest
how it describes facts,
826
00:44:30,737 --> 00:44:32,446
that to me is really scary.
827
00:44:32,446 --> 00:44:35,286
'Cause this is an aberrant belief system,
828
00:44:35,286 --> 00:44:36,705
we're on the fringe of society.
829
00:44:36,705 --> 00:44:38,188
This is an outlier belief system.
830
00:44:38,188 --> 00:44:40,056
This is insane what we're talking about.
831
00:44:40,056 --> 00:44:42,117
- But, tell me what is sane.
832
00:44:42,117 --> 00:44:45,908
Well sane is being a robot,
taking your brain out
833
00:44:45,908 --> 00:44:48,068
and just going to work and
doing and never thinking
834
00:44:48,068 --> 00:44:48,926
outside the box.
835
00:44:48,926 --> 00:44:52,417
That's how they classify
sanity, never actually thinking.
836
00:44:52,417 --> 00:44:54,336
And, none of us are running
around like headless chooks.
837
00:44:54,336 --> 00:44:56,945
We're holding down jobs and
mortgages and blah, blah, blah.
838
00:44:56,945 --> 00:45:00,004
So, we're not completely
nuts, but our belief system
839
00:45:00,004 --> 00:45:02,263
is nutty enough there to
actually look up into the sky.
840
00:45:02,263 --> 00:45:04,386
And, Damien's maybe even
more dangerous 'cause
841
00:45:04,386 --> 00:45:06,994
he's filming something
that's not supposed to exist.
842
00:45:06,994 --> 00:45:08,772
- One of the
most controversial events
843
00:45:08,772 --> 00:45:13,050
that has taken place was a
massive daylight sighting
844
00:45:13,050 --> 00:45:14,903
that happened in Australia.
845
00:45:14,903 --> 00:45:16,823
- With the
Westall incident just tell us
846
00:45:16,823 --> 00:45:21,221
about what happened and why
it's important to the world.
847
00:45:21,221 --> 00:45:24,375
The Westall incident is
an absolutely fascinating
848
00:45:24,375 --> 00:45:25,575
flying saucer incident.
849
00:45:25,575 --> 00:45:29,742
It's probably the largest mass
witnessed daylight sighting
850
00:45:31,044 --> 00:45:34,652
of a flying saucer, certainly in Australia
851
00:45:34,652 --> 00:45:37,012
and probably in the world.
852
00:45:37,012 --> 00:45:41,863
On the sixth of April in 1966
in a place called Westall
853
00:45:41,863 --> 00:45:45,404
in the southeastern suburbs
of Melbourne, Australia's
854
00:45:45,404 --> 00:45:49,571
second largest city, at
around 10:15 in the morning
855
00:45:50,892 --> 00:45:53,863
some students who were
out on the playing field
856
00:45:53,863 --> 00:45:57,834
at Westall high school
noticed, just out of the blue,
857
00:45:57,834 --> 00:46:01,564
this flying saucer type
object appeared above them
858
00:46:01,564 --> 00:46:03,183
in the sky.
859
00:46:03,183 --> 00:46:07,084
And, within several minutes
a huge number of the students
860
00:46:07,084 --> 00:46:10,074
at both Westall high
school and the neighbouring
861
00:46:10,074 --> 00:46:12,914
primary school next door,
Westall State School
862
00:46:12,914 --> 00:46:16,284
witnessed this flying
saucer shaped object.
863
00:46:16,284 --> 00:46:19,261
Some people say it was
one, quite a few witnesses
864
00:46:19,261 --> 00:46:23,834
remember seeing more than
one, two or three flying
865
00:46:23,834 --> 00:46:28,034
low in the sky above
the two Westall schools.
866
00:46:28,034 --> 00:46:31,324
And then, the students
watched as the flying saucer
867
00:46:31,324 --> 00:46:34,423
flew several hundred meters
to the south of the school
868
00:46:34,423 --> 00:46:37,812
and disappeared behind
a grove of pine trees.
869
00:46:37,812 --> 00:46:40,281
Because so many of the
students saw the flying saucer
870
00:46:40,281 --> 00:46:44,782
going into the direction of
this place called the Grange
871
00:46:44,782 --> 00:46:48,193
and so many of the students
knew the Grange so well
872
00:46:48,193 --> 00:46:51,524
because it was an area
very close to their school
873
00:46:51,524 --> 00:46:54,809
they did what they knew very much against
874
00:46:54,809 --> 00:46:58,961
the school's rules, jumped
the school boundary fence,
875
00:46:58,961 --> 00:47:03,618
raced over the road and chased
after the flying saucer.
876
00:47:03,618 --> 00:47:07,350
A small number of student
were lucky enough to arrive
877
00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:11,209
in time to see the flying
saucer still on the ground,
878
00:47:11,209 --> 00:47:14,489
or at least very close to the
ground and they watched it
879
00:47:14,489 --> 00:47:18,361
as it lifted up, tilted
onto it's side, and then
880
00:47:18,361 --> 00:47:21,028
flew off at an incredible speed.
881
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:24,959
- Are any of
those students alive today?
882
00:47:24,959 --> 00:47:27,412
Nearly all of those
students are still with us,
883
00:47:27,412 --> 00:47:29,250
still alive today.
884
00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:32,990
I've been in touch with
almost 100 witnesses
885
00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:37,468
who remember seeing the
flying saucer themselves,
886
00:47:37,468 --> 00:47:42,209
about 150 students who
remember seeing the circles
887
00:47:42,209 --> 00:47:45,750
left behind in the grassy
paddock where the flying
888
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:49,620
saucer came down, and
something like 60 students
889
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:54,287
who were lucky enough to have
seen both of those things.
890
00:47:54,287 --> 00:47:58,370
- Now, in
the history of this event
891
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:05,220
there was one individual,
quite prolific, who would be
892
00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:07,009
Andrew the science teacher.
893
00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:09,099
Can you tell us a bit
about his involvement
894
00:48:09,099 --> 00:48:12,266
and how it may have affected his life?
895
00:48:13,439 --> 00:48:15,820
Sure, well Mister Andrew
Greenwood was one of the
896
00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:18,060
two science teachers at
the school at that time.
897
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:20,938
There was a male teacher
and a female teacher.
898
00:48:20,938 --> 00:48:24,369
Andrew Greenwood was teaching
science to a class at the time
899
00:48:24,369 --> 00:48:27,787
when the flying saucer appeared
and a student rushed in
900
00:48:27,787 --> 00:48:29,788
to his class from outside.
901
00:48:29,788 --> 00:48:33,018
A girl who had been doing
physical education at the time
902
00:48:33,018 --> 00:48:35,167
yelling out, "There's a
flying saucer outside",
903
00:48:35,167 --> 00:48:37,129
"a flying saucer outside."
904
00:48:37,129 --> 00:48:39,609
After a few minutes Andrew
gathered his class together
905
00:48:39,609 --> 00:48:41,828
and went out to investigate himself.
906
00:48:41,828 --> 00:48:44,740
And, sure enough, getting
out onto the playing field
907
00:48:44,740 --> 00:48:48,638
he saw a flying saucer for
himself as did the students
908
00:48:48,638 --> 00:48:51,910
who were in his science class.
909
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:54,950
Andrew was very much
affected by what he had seen.
910
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:58,928
He could clearly see what it
was that the students saw,
911
00:48:58,928 --> 00:49:03,689
as well, and about a week or
two later there was a knock
912
00:49:03,689 --> 00:49:05,700
at his door at his home.
913
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,150
And, he opened the door
to see two uniformed Royal
914
00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:12,468
Australian Air Force
officers on his doorstep.
915
00:49:12,468 --> 00:49:14,700
He thought, "Okay, they're
coming around to talk to me"
916
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:17,578
"about what I've seen to
take down more details"
917
00:49:17,578 --> 00:49:19,630
"about what I had seen."
918
00:49:19,630 --> 00:49:23,190
But, in fact, they'd come
around to do the very opposite.
919
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:26,689
They came around to say,
"Andrew, there are no such things
920
00:49:26,689 --> 00:49:30,679
"as flying saucers and we
don't want you talking again
921
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,089
"about what you say you saw.
922
00:49:33,089 --> 00:49:36,668
"In fact, if you talk again
to the media," at that point
923
00:49:36,668 --> 00:49:40,321
in time he had spoken to
the local newspaper and his
924
00:49:40,321 --> 00:49:43,360
account and his photograph
had appeared in the newspaper.
925
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,088
"If you talk again about
what you have seen we will"
926
00:49:46,088 --> 00:49:49,860
"make sure that you don't
teach again in this state."
927
00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:51,929
They were coming around
to threaten him to put
928
00:49:51,929 --> 00:49:54,138
the hard word on him.
929
00:49:54,138 --> 00:49:57,990
Now obviously, he was very
shaken by this and he remembers
930
00:49:57,990 --> 00:50:01,487
thinking at the time, "If
there are no such things"
931
00:50:01,487 --> 00:50:05,310
"as flying saucers why are
you two Air Force officers"
932
00:50:05,310 --> 00:50:09,143
"so keen for me to not
say that I've seen one?"
933
00:50:10,161 --> 00:50:13,169
"Why are you two people
so keen for me not to talk"
934
00:50:13,169 --> 00:50:15,252
"about what I have seen."
935
00:50:17,529 --> 00:50:19,030
- The arm
in the lower right corner
936
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:20,380
of the picture which was
a position that Anna had
937
00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:24,380
put it in to assist in
our station keeping test.
938
00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:54,073
- A German space agency.
939
00:50:57,180 --> 00:50:59,013
A German space agency.
940
00:51:14,178 --> 00:51:17,500
- If there were a
danger out there in the stars,
941
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:20,169
another intelligence
that was willing to enter
942
00:51:20,169 --> 00:51:23,489
our atmosphere without
permission, willing to alter
943
00:51:23,489 --> 00:51:27,269
our way of life by simply
revealing themselves
944
00:51:27,269 --> 00:51:30,160
what could be the reason, why now?
945
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,510
Could it be to eventually
take advantage or exploit
946
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:35,900
mankind as a resource?
947
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:39,110
That certainly would be
a worthy cause for NASA
948
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:40,620
to keep secrets.
949
00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:44,630
Or, is there something even
more unbelievable at hand?
950
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:48,220
Perhaps a group of elite
humans have closed the world
951
00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:50,527
off from this interaction.
952
00:51:50,527 --> 00:51:54,048
Or maybe these off-worlders
themselves are the ones
953
00:51:54,048 --> 00:51:56,860
trying to keep the secrets.
954
00:51:56,860 --> 00:51:59,560
NASA has partnered with
Robert Bigelow who's an
955
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,881
unconventional figure
in the aerospace world.
956
00:52:02,881 --> 00:52:05,590
He's more at home on the
Vegas strip then at America's
957
00:52:05,590 --> 00:52:09,757
space agency and he's
obsessed with aliens and UFOs.
958
00:52:10,658 --> 00:52:14,127
In the Spring of last year
he and NASA carried out
959
00:52:14,127 --> 00:52:18,228
an historic test to prove
his high flying technology
960
00:52:18,228 --> 00:52:21,567
is ready to support humans in space.
961
00:52:21,567 --> 00:52:25,508
Witnessing those explosions
in the 50s and 60s
962
00:52:25,508 --> 00:52:28,017
you weren't aware of the
ultimate ramifications
963
00:52:28,017 --> 00:52:29,697
of those kinds of things.
964
00:52:29,697 --> 00:52:32,718
But, there was a real
strong feeling of energy
965
00:52:32,718 --> 00:52:35,468
and a secretiveness and so forth.
966
00:52:38,737 --> 00:52:40,037
It was cool.
967
00:52:40,037 --> 00:52:42,714
- He told us this
is where his grandparents
968
00:52:42,714 --> 00:52:46,036
had a close encounter
with a UFO and explains
969
00:52:46,036 --> 00:52:50,145
the alien looking out from
the side of Bigelow Aerospace.
970
00:52:50,145 --> 00:52:51,665
You believe in aliens?
971
00:52:51,665 --> 00:52:54,466
I'm absolutely convinced,
that's all there is to it.
972
00:52:54,466 --> 00:52:57,596
Do you also believe that
UFOs have come to Earth?
973
00:52:57,596 --> 00:52:59,754
There has been and is
an existing presence,
974
00:52:59,754 --> 00:53:01,167
an E.T. presence.
975
00:53:01,167 --> 00:53:02,938
And, I've spent millions
and millions, I've probably
976
00:53:02,938 --> 00:53:05,866
spent more as an individual
than anybody else in
977
00:53:05,866 --> 00:53:08,378
the United States has ever
spent on this subject.
978
00:53:08,378 --> 00:53:11,327
Is it risky for you to
say in public that you
979
00:53:11,327 --> 00:53:12,827
that you believe...
I don't give a damn.
980
00:53:12,827 --> 00:53:13,660
In UFOs and aliens?
981
00:53:13,660 --> 00:53:14,548
I don't care.
982
00:53:14,548 --> 00:53:16,628
You don't worry that
some people will say that
983
00:53:16,628 --> 00:53:18,636
you're that guy, he
sounds like he's crazy.
984
00:53:18,636 --> 00:53:20,588
I don't care.
Why not?
985
00:53:20,588 --> 00:53:22,188
It's not gonna make a difference.
986
00:53:22,188 --> 00:53:25,436
It's not gonna change
reality of what I know.
987
00:53:25,436 --> 00:53:28,548
Do you imagine that in our space travels
988
00:53:28,548 --> 00:53:32,207
we will encounter other
forms of intelligent life?
989
00:53:32,207 --> 00:53:34,258
You don't have to go anywhere.
990
00:53:34,258 --> 00:53:35,308
You can find it here?
991
00:53:35,308 --> 00:53:36,427
Yeah.
992
00:53:27,120 --> 00:54:28,432
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992
00:54:29,305 --> 00:54:35,470
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