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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,177 --> 00:00:13,646 "Queen Sugar" is a drama about family. 2 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:14,948 It's one of the few shows 3 00:00:15,048 --> 00:00:18,518 that centers black family life in a dramatic sense. 4 00:00:18,618 --> 00:00:20,487 We are all here, Daddy. 5 00:00:20,587 --> 00:00:24,290 We will pour our life and love to the land 6 00:00:24,391 --> 00:00:25,859 and keep the farm going. 7 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:28,725 We will live out the legacy you left us. 8 00:00:30,997 --> 00:00:33,520 I know exactly where I want to be. 9 00:00:33,602 --> 00:00:36,168 It's love, choices. 10 00:00:38,772 --> 00:00:45,957 Circumstances, discovery, and reinvention. 11 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:49,616 Welcome to Vi's Pies and Diner. 12 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:55,155 Really, it's a conversation that unfolds around family 13 00:00:55,255 --> 00:00:57,957 and community and legacy. 14 00:00:58,058 --> 00:00:59,826 We hug around here, baby. 15 00:00:59,926 --> 00:01:01,895 I think you'll find yourself 16 00:01:01,985 --> 00:01:03,563 identifying with little parts of everyone. 17 00:01:05,965 --> 00:01:09,135 Hi, I'm Ava DuVernay, and I'm taking you inside the making 18 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:10,103 of "Queen Sugar." 19 00:01:10,203 --> 00:01:12,572 We're here for those men and women 20 00:01:12,672 --> 00:01:17,010 locked up for no other reason than because they're poor. 21 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:18,745 With never before heard stories 22 00:01:18,845 --> 00:01:22,382 from the cast and an exclusive sneak peek at season 5... 23 00:01:22,482 --> 00:01:23,750 This is good land. 24 00:01:23,850 --> 00:01:26,886 ...I'm so excited to share with you all the triumphs and all 25 00:01:26,986 --> 00:01:29,322 the stories that you've not yet heard 26 00:01:29,422 --> 00:01:31,257 and tell you all about what it took 27 00:01:31,357 --> 00:01:32,792 to get this season on its feet. 28 00:01:32,892 --> 00:01:34,727 No more running. 29 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:37,030 No more taking the easy way out. 30 00:01:37,130 --> 00:01:38,692 We ain't going nowhere. 31 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:45,538 Looking back, when I first started working on "Queen 32 00:01:45,638 --> 00:01:47,140 Sugar," I was terrified. 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,342 It's going to take a lot of hard work, 34 00:01:49,442 --> 00:01:52,846 and if you work together, it can be done. 35 00:01:52,946 --> 00:01:55,348 A few days before episode one, I remember thinking, 36 00:01:55,448 --> 00:01:56,583 what am I doing? 37 00:01:56,683 --> 00:01:57,917 This is television. 38 00:01:58,017 --> 00:02:00,220 People have to want to watch this every single week. 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,421 Hear me now. 40 00:02:03,256 --> 00:02:06,126 I'm the only farmer in this parish capable of bringing 41 00:02:06,226 --> 00:02:09,392 in a crop on this land on time. 42 00:02:11,197 --> 00:02:13,333 Can you give us a few days to think about it? 43 00:02:13,433 --> 00:02:14,474 A week maybe? 44 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:16,336 A week? Mercy. 45 00:02:16,436 --> 00:02:18,059 Try two days. 46 00:02:18,505 --> 00:02:20,932 After that, that land's not worth anything to me. 47 00:02:23,309 --> 00:02:24,811 It wasn't until I got into the flow 48 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:27,113 and I started to understand, oh, people are watching 49 00:02:27,213 --> 00:02:28,114 it like you watch things. 50 00:02:28,214 --> 00:02:29,315 They look forward to the characters. 51 00:02:29,415 --> 00:02:30,683 They talk about it all week. 52 00:02:30,783 --> 00:02:32,620 Charley and I, 53 00:02:32,746 --> 00:02:34,859 we think you and Boo should move into Daddy's house. 54 00:02:42,662 --> 00:02:44,430 What about the farm? 55 00:02:44,531 --> 00:02:49,035 Like I said, I'm not signing up to be no farmer, 56 00:02:49,135 --> 00:02:51,604 - but we got a plan. - Yeah. 57 00:02:51,629 --> 00:02:55,416 It won't be easy, but we think we should go for it. 58 00:02:55,441 --> 00:02:59,078 I truly had so much anxiety, and never imagined 59 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:02,482 we'd be going into writing season six 60 00:03:02,582 --> 00:03:04,951 and I'd be here talking to you about season five. 61 00:03:05,051 --> 00:03:07,592 This is a badass deal, 62 00:03:10,761 --> 00:03:12,725 and I'm proud as hell 63 00:03:12,825 --> 00:03:14,559 for you trying to pull it off. 64 00:03:15,428 --> 00:03:19,399 Can you imagine a Black woman owning 65 00:03:19,499 --> 00:03:22,001 and operating her own mill? 66 00:03:22,101 --> 00:03:23,730 Come on, what? 67 00:03:23,807 --> 00:03:25,004 It's crazy. 68 00:03:25,104 --> 00:03:25,972 Congratulations. 69 00:03:26,072 --> 00:03:27,607 This is the longest time I've told 70 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:31,945 one story, and every season, with the various show runners... 71 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:34,647 Anthony Sparks has been with us a couple of seasons now... 72 00:03:34,747 --> 00:03:37,884 They all have done a lovely job of keeping the story 73 00:03:37,984 --> 00:03:39,953 where the characters should go. 74 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,125 This redfish looks so good. 75 00:03:44,424 --> 00:03:46,059 I'm never disappointed. 76 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:47,660 That's the truth. Right. 77 00:03:49,095 --> 00:03:52,031 Wow. This is a feast fit for daddy. 78 00:03:52,131 --> 00:03:55,314 And also just becoming enamored with the idea 79 00:03:55,413 --> 00:04:00,740 that we can have a drama series that is not based on spectacle. 80 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,009 It's not based on humor. 81 00:04:03,109 --> 00:04:04,937 I love spectacle and I love humor, 82 00:04:05,026 --> 00:04:07,714 but a true hardcore drama. 83 00:04:07,814 --> 00:04:09,415 Is everything OK? 84 00:04:09,515 --> 00:04:11,192 Just a crazy day. 85 00:04:12,525 --> 00:04:13,786 That's all. 86 00:04:13,886 --> 00:04:16,256 You have a lot on your shoulders, Ralph Angel. 87 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:18,291 You're handling it, though. 88 00:04:18,391 --> 00:04:20,026 I'm proud of you. 89 00:04:20,126 --> 00:04:21,561 Appreciate it. 90 00:04:21,661 --> 00:04:25,531 Like those kinds of shows, the thirtysomethings and the 91 00:04:25,632 --> 00:04:28,501 kinds of shows that I see white people being the center 92 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:30,336 of for decades and decades. 93 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:31,878 Have you seen a flamingo? 94 00:04:31,981 --> 00:04:33,406 They're really tall. 95 00:04:33,506 --> 00:04:34,874 Taller than me? 96 00:04:34,974 --> 00:04:35,975 They're not that tall. 97 00:04:36,075 --> 00:04:37,243 They're not that tall. 98 00:04:37,343 --> 00:04:39,345 And so it's just a family drama. 99 00:04:39,445 --> 00:04:41,681 It's nothing more splashy than that. 100 00:04:41,781 --> 00:04:43,349 But you get to know these family members. 101 00:04:43,449 --> 00:04:44,717 You get to know the siblings. 102 00:04:44,817 --> 00:04:46,819 You get to know their histories, their backgrounds, what they 103 00:04:46,919 --> 00:04:49,010 like, what they don't like, what's going to work 104 00:04:49,136 --> 00:04:51,057 when they get together and what's not going to work, 105 00:04:51,157 --> 00:04:54,694 and all the revelations of people who are destined to live 106 00:04:54,794 --> 00:04:58,197 their lives together, which is what a family sometimes is, 107 00:04:58,298 --> 00:04:59,732 for those of us who are lucky. 108 00:04:59,832 --> 00:05:03,336 And so I became really attached to the idea 109 00:05:03,436 --> 00:05:05,104 of making something like that. 110 00:05:05,204 --> 00:05:07,307 It's become important, but it started 111 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:09,509 just out of a place of love. 112 00:05:09,609 --> 00:05:10,925 I love you. 113 00:05:12,178 --> 00:05:13,379 Oh. 114 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:14,714 I choose you. 115 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:16,749 Embrace the future. 116 00:05:16,849 --> 00:05:19,450 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 117 00:05:19,812 --> 00:05:20,964 Yeah. 118 00:05:23,556 --> 00:05:24,590 And mark. 119 00:05:24,691 --> 00:05:26,292 And action. 120 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:41,859 And action. 121 00:05:42,508 --> 00:05:45,311 First day of filming on the first season, 122 00:05:45,411 --> 00:05:48,548 well, I shot the first two episodes... it was in Charley 123 00:05:48,648 --> 00:05:50,950 and Davis and Micah's house. 124 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:54,554 I remember we found this like glass chic house, 125 00:05:54,654 --> 00:05:55,888 and we wanted to create something 126 00:05:55,988 --> 00:05:58,691 that was very much in contrast to the Bordelon farmhouse. 127 00:05:58,791 --> 00:06:01,627 And we had a little driving scene, where we shot down 128 00:06:01,728 --> 00:06:05,798 Sunset Boulevard and she sees the billboard of Davis, 129 00:06:05,898 --> 00:06:07,233 and he's the gentleman. 130 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:10,570 And she created this persona for him. 131 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:11,804 Those were the first days. 132 00:06:11,904 --> 00:06:16,075 This is when Davis comes home from a hard day 133 00:06:16,175 --> 00:06:18,144 at the office, which is the NBA game, 134 00:06:18,244 --> 00:06:20,346 and she's outside at the pool. 135 00:06:20,446 --> 00:06:21,948 And he's like... 136 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:23,182 All the work, baby. 137 00:06:23,282 --> 00:06:25,785 I know, but it's not over. 138 00:06:27,954 --> 00:06:29,222 It is. 139 00:06:29,322 --> 00:06:32,024 He picks her up and carries her to the bedroom. 140 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:34,360 And we had a very short amount of time 141 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:39,165 to establish their connection before the famous scene, 142 00:06:39,265 --> 00:06:41,267 where she walks out on the basketball court. 143 00:06:41,367 --> 00:06:44,737 I remember when I wrote that scene, I was like, too much? 144 00:06:44,837 --> 00:06:45,918 What did you do? 145 00:06:46,010 --> 00:06:48,541 What? What are you talking about? 146 00:06:48,641 --> 00:06:49,542 What? 147 00:06:50,043 --> 00:06:54,859 What did you do? 148 00:06:58,084 --> 00:06:59,952 What did you do? 149 00:07:00,052 --> 00:07:01,788 You're a liar. You're a liar. 150 00:07:01,888 --> 00:07:03,923 Baby, what is going... hold on. 151 00:07:04,023 --> 00:07:05,925 What did you do? 152 00:07:08,336 --> 00:07:09,704 You liar. 153 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:11,706 What did you do? 154 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:13,708 You're a liar, Davis. 155 00:07:13,808 --> 00:07:18,113 I remember Oprah saying, it's going to depend on the way 156 00:07:18,213 --> 00:07:19,347 you shoot it. 157 00:07:19,447 --> 00:07:20,782 I was like, OK. 158 00:07:20,882 --> 00:07:22,584 And she came that day. 159 00:07:22,684 --> 00:07:24,853 We shot that in New Orleans in the Superdome, 160 00:07:24,953 --> 00:07:26,855 and there are pictures of her on set that day. 161 00:07:26,955 --> 00:07:29,257 And I remember like, oh, gosh, is this going to work? 162 00:07:29,357 --> 00:07:30,925 She's actually here watching me. 163 00:07:31,025 --> 00:07:32,127 But we had fun that day. 164 00:07:32,227 --> 00:07:33,228 It was great. 165 00:07:33,328 --> 00:07:35,263 Dawn-Lyen Gardner, an incredible actress, 166 00:07:35,363 --> 00:07:38,199 made it feel believable and she made it feel real. 167 00:07:38,299 --> 00:07:40,802 She was a woman scorned, and nothing 168 00:07:40,902 --> 00:07:42,804 else mattered except confronting him 169 00:07:42,904 --> 00:07:45,473 in the middle of an NBA game. 170 00:07:46,741 --> 00:07:47,976 - Your... - Oh, yeah. 171 00:07:48,076 --> 00:07:49,878 This is how I normally start playing, because by the time 172 00:07:49,978 --> 00:07:51,491 - I'm finished... - That's just not right. 173 00:07:51,613 --> 00:07:53,681 Anyway those were some fun days, 174 00:07:53,782 --> 00:07:56,618 and I really enjoyed shooting them both. 175 00:07:56,718 --> 00:07:59,187 And it's been challenging not to shoot more 176 00:07:59,287 --> 00:08:03,057 because I love the show so much, but any show that I direct, 177 00:08:03,158 --> 00:08:05,026 any episode that I direct, means that I 178 00:08:05,126 --> 00:08:06,528 can't give another woman director 179 00:08:06,628 --> 00:08:08,129 the opportunity to direct. 180 00:08:08,229 --> 00:08:10,331 And a big part of our show is making 181 00:08:10,431 --> 00:08:13,003 sure that we get more women directors in front of the camera. 182 00:08:13,027 --> 00:08:16,396 So I probably won't direct until the finale, 183 00:08:16,481 --> 00:08:20,134 and God willing, I'll be able to handle that one 184 00:08:20,218 --> 00:08:22,703 and cap off the season whenever that day comes. 185 00:08:22,803 --> 00:08:24,345 My favorite director. 186 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:30,411 The top of every season, we get together 187 00:08:30,511 --> 00:08:33,547 and I outline what I feel should happen in that season. 188 00:08:33,647 --> 00:08:35,783 And there are debates and there are 189 00:08:35,883 --> 00:08:37,822 ideas that come in from the writers room, 190 00:08:37,846 --> 00:08:38,926 all of our writers. 191 00:08:39,010 --> 00:08:40,554 Shout out to the folks who've been with us 192 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:42,122 across all the episodes. 193 00:08:42,223 --> 00:08:44,058 Are you doing business with the Landrys? 194 00:08:44,158 --> 00:08:46,861 I almost lost everything. 195 00:08:46,961 --> 00:08:50,698 But now my 1% is the first step to taking back the power. 196 00:08:50,798 --> 00:08:53,067 So you betray our family and get in bed with an enemy 197 00:08:53,167 --> 00:08:55,169 and all you got was 1%? 198 00:08:55,792 --> 00:08:57,271 You're not seeing the big picture. 199 00:08:57,371 --> 00:09:00,139 If Charley got a chance to change things 200 00:09:00,247 --> 00:09:03,777 and take down Atlantis, I say she do it. 201 00:09:03,878 --> 00:09:05,179 But I think the thing that surprised 202 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,850 me is the way that the story has unfolded season to season. 203 00:09:09,950 --> 00:09:12,386 As I'm in the hiatus and I'm thinking about what can happen 204 00:09:12,486 --> 00:09:14,989 to these characters next, I'm shocked 205 00:09:15,089 --> 00:09:17,424 that ideas continue to come. 206 00:09:17,525 --> 00:09:22,930 And both my ideas about where this season should go and ideas 207 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:25,633 from the room, as to how to provide scaffolding 208 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:28,762 for those ideas, the power of creativity 209 00:09:28,849 --> 00:09:31,137 is an amazing and beautiful thing. 210 00:09:31,228 --> 00:09:34,875 So it's been a really beautiful experience. 211 00:09:34,975 --> 00:09:37,378 I'm so blessed by it. 212 00:09:37,478 --> 00:09:44,159 Daddy, give me the strength to see this through. 213 00:09:47,121 --> 00:09:49,990 I just think he represents the best of humanity. 214 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,458 And it's not because he's perfect. 215 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,427 It's just because he's imperfect. 216 00:09:53,527 --> 00:09:57,565 His duality is what makes him so lovable and so understandable. 217 00:09:57,665 --> 00:10:00,968 This is in episode one, and it teases what's to come. 218 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:04,204 Because this season, we're going to be able to finally see 219 00:10:04,305 --> 00:10:07,459 Ralph Angel and Darla happy. 220 00:10:08,530 --> 00:10:11,879 Hi, I'm Ava DuVernay, and this is fan question time, 221 00:10:11,979 --> 00:10:14,281 "Queen Sugar" fans asking questions. 222 00:10:14,381 --> 00:10:15,549 Let's get into it. 223 00:10:15,649 --> 00:10:17,851 Hey, I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina, 224 00:10:17,952 --> 00:10:19,687 and I'm a fan of "Queen Sugar." 225 00:10:19,787 --> 00:10:22,957 Which "Queen Sugar" character resonates with you the most? 226 00:10:23,057 --> 00:10:25,192 Well, all of them are a little bit of a part of me. 227 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:27,661 Definitely I'm a little bit Nova and a little bit Charley. 228 00:10:27,761 --> 00:10:33,334 And Ralph Angel is so many things that I want to be... 229 00:10:33,434 --> 00:10:36,303 A fighter who doesn't give up, no matter 230 00:10:36,403 --> 00:10:38,005 what life throws at him. 231 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:47,475 "Queen Sugar" is family like you know family, 232 00:10:47,595 --> 00:10:50,575 but rendered in a way that is more compelling 233 00:10:50,608 --> 00:10:52,653 and rich than you've ever seen. 234 00:10:52,753 --> 00:10:57,057 So much of the show is about coming together. 235 00:10:57,157 --> 00:11:00,032 It begins with these three siblings, who are 236 00:11:00,173 --> 00:11:02,074 fairly estranged, reuniting. 237 00:11:02,216 --> 00:11:03,584 I want to fix things. 238 00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:08,959 We'll earn your trust, but you got to let me in. 239 00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:11,905 We're going to fight these people who 240 00:11:12,006 --> 00:11:13,507 hate everything we stand for. 241 00:11:17,077 --> 00:11:18,746 We can't be at war with each other. 242 00:11:18,846 --> 00:11:23,784 Nova is an activist with sometimes questionable morals. 243 00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:26,620 She has a lot of, gumption a lot of gusto. 244 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,490 I think the most beautiful aspect of Nova is her spirit. 245 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:32,192 She lives by speaking truth to power. 246 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:36,664 Be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious 247 00:11:36,764 --> 00:11:40,625 is to be in a rage almost all the time. 248 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:43,003 James Baldwin said that. 249 00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:44,571 You can change the world. 250 00:11:44,672 --> 00:11:46,106 You are who I think you are. 251 00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:48,442 And Charley is a fixer. 252 00:11:48,542 --> 00:11:50,144 She will fix the problem. 253 00:11:50,244 --> 00:11:52,513 She will put it on her shoulders and carry it 254 00:11:52,613 --> 00:11:54,581 over the finish line, even if it is 255 00:11:54,682 --> 00:11:56,383 sacrificing her own happiness. 256 00:11:56,483 --> 00:11:59,820 She is really driven by the bigger picture. 257 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,925 I'm going to burn the entire Landry family to the ground. 258 00:12:03,524 --> 00:12:07,092 And when I own Landry Enterprises, 259 00:12:08,196 --> 00:12:12,066 we'll finally bring power to the people where it belongs. 260 00:12:12,091 --> 00:12:13,826 Yeah, I can take that. 261 00:12:15,536 --> 00:12:18,038 And then you have Ralph Angel, the baby. 262 00:12:18,138 --> 00:12:19,986 Oh, boy, he's a handful. 263 00:12:20,084 --> 00:12:22,876 I just think he represents the best of humanity. 264 00:12:22,976 --> 00:12:24,378 And it's not because he's perfect. 265 00:12:24,478 --> 00:12:26,346 It's just because he's imperfect. 266 00:12:26,447 --> 00:12:30,563 His duality is what makes him so lovable and so understandable. 267 00:12:30,641 --> 00:12:35,362 When I was growing up, I kept my head down. 268 00:12:35,459 --> 00:12:37,958 Ain't bothered nobody. Nobody bothered me. 269 00:12:38,058 --> 00:12:39,760 I know that's not how it is. 270 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:41,846 You let this happen to you, 271 00:12:42,945 --> 00:12:44,264 but you can't give up. 272 00:12:44,364 --> 00:12:46,700 Well, Aunt Vi is the matriarch of the family 273 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,803 and is often the final word. 274 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,139 What drives her, what makes her tick 275 00:12:52,239 --> 00:12:57,057 is family, the love that she feels for her man, Hollywood. 276 00:12:57,142 --> 00:13:02,392 You wanted this, and now it's all yours. 277 00:13:03,117 --> 00:13:05,519 Only this time you ain't got to share with nobody. 278 00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:07,588 All you got to do is say yes. 279 00:13:07,688 --> 00:13:10,991 Hollywood, this is a lot to give somebody. 280 00:13:11,091 --> 00:13:12,892 You ain't somebody. 281 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:16,059 I deserve to give you whatever I want. 282 00:13:16,997 --> 00:13:19,600 Hollywood, hardworking brother, 283 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:24,438 who just wants to support his lady, all the time. 284 00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:26,573 I like to think of Hollywood as like maybe 285 00:13:26,673 --> 00:13:28,362 the rock of the family. 286 00:13:28,469 --> 00:13:32,012 He's an uncle, and sometimes he's a brother and sometimes 287 00:13:32,112 --> 00:13:33,680 to everybody in the family. 288 00:13:33,781 --> 00:13:36,583 Whenever you and Aunt Vi getting married, 289 00:13:36,683 --> 00:13:38,218 are you going to have a baby? 290 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:39,353 No. 291 00:13:39,453 --> 00:13:43,023 I think that's OK if you don't have a baby. 292 00:13:43,123 --> 00:13:44,525 Oh, yeah? 293 00:13:44,625 --> 00:13:46,774 Is that OK with you, your highness? 294 00:13:46,863 --> 00:13:47,842 Yeah. 295 00:13:47,923 --> 00:13:49,129 Cheers to real meat. 296 00:13:49,722 --> 00:13:51,025 Chicken cheer. 297 00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,807 Nick Ashe, it's been beautiful to see him 298 00:13:54,911 --> 00:13:58,605 echo and evolve as artists and performers and actors 299 00:13:58,705 --> 00:13:59,773 in these roles. 300 00:13:59,873 --> 00:14:02,643 Little known fact, they're the exact same age. 301 00:14:02,743 --> 00:14:06,280 Michael West is a teenager from Los Angeles. 302 00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:09,917 He has two incredibly awesome, talented, famous parents, 303 00:14:10,017 --> 00:14:13,253 and is tackling what it means to be a Black man 304 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:15,422 in modern United States. 305 00:14:15,522 --> 00:14:19,526 If they build that jail, the prison, 306 00:14:19,626 --> 00:14:20,894 they're going to fill it. 307 00:14:20,994 --> 00:14:25,999 The real cost of the prison isn't in dollars and cents, OK? 308 00:14:26,109 --> 00:14:28,935 Prisons aren't made of bricks and mortar. 309 00:14:29,032 --> 00:14:33,307 They're made of bodies and blood. 310 00:14:33,407 --> 00:14:35,713 I truly believe that we, 311 00:14:36,252 --> 00:14:38,979 we are the ones we've been waiting for. 312 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:48,055 And Darla, her struggle with addiction, 313 00:14:48,155 --> 00:14:50,858 I wanted to see the other side of it 314 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:54,261 and the real world challenge that is every single day. 315 00:14:54,361 --> 00:14:56,230 She's a recovering addict, and she's 316 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:59,811 going through an internal evolution right now, 317 00:14:59,835 --> 00:15:02,792 trying to overcome the demons of her past. 318 00:15:04,438 --> 00:15:05,759 I'm proud of you. 319 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,155 I respect how you stay straight 320 00:15:12,153 --> 00:15:13,559 for our little man. 321 00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:16,269 Thank you for that. 322 00:15:16,356 --> 00:15:17,751 What are you guys doing? 323 00:15:17,851 --> 00:15:18,932 Just talking. 324 00:15:19,042 --> 00:15:20,821 Talking about you. 325 00:15:20,921 --> 00:15:22,322 Blue is our hope. 326 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,792 Blue is the promise of a brighter future. 327 00:15:25,893 --> 00:15:30,264 He's understanding about his family 328 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:32,675 and what his family really is 329 00:15:32,793 --> 00:15:34,982 and understanding how the world really works. 330 00:15:35,075 --> 00:15:36,970 Are we mad at Auntie Nova? 331 00:15:37,459 --> 00:15:38,906 Who said I was mad at her? 332 00:15:39,006 --> 00:15:41,141 I heard you this morning. 333 00:15:41,241 --> 00:15:42,959 You sounded upset. 334 00:15:43,911 --> 00:15:45,212 It's just like when Marcus said it 335 00:15:45,312 --> 00:15:47,247 was his turn to play Minecraft. 336 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:48,602 It was actually mine. 337 00:15:48,735 --> 00:15:50,484 So how did you and Marcus work this out? 338 00:15:50,584 --> 00:15:53,387 We decided to each take two turns, 339 00:15:53,487 --> 00:15:55,732 because Marcus' mom said, 340 00:15:55,756 --> 00:15:59,180 it's not worth not being friends over the game, 341 00:15:59,204 --> 00:16:02,763 and we have more in common than we have different. 342 00:16:02,863 --> 00:16:05,365 So you're a big boy now. 343 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:06,767 Smart, too, huh? 344 00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:10,570 - Come here. - I love you. 345 00:16:10,671 --> 00:16:11,872 I love you more. 346 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:13,040 I love you even more. 347 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:16,734 I think one of the things that we should look at 348 00:16:16,850 --> 00:16:19,880 when we think about incarceration is these aren't statistics. 349 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:25,886 These are people with real life circumstances and experiences 350 00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:27,792 and stories to tell. 351 00:16:28,610 --> 00:16:34,061 These police officers, they're trying to intimidate us. 352 00:16:34,161 --> 00:16:36,430 They want us to fear them. 353 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:38,092 But we're not afraid. 354 00:16:39,166 --> 00:16:43,370 They want us to fade away, but we won't. 355 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:49,643 They want to erase our humanity, to act as if we don't exist. 356 00:16:49,743 --> 00:16:54,025 But these Black bodies are real. 357 00:16:57,584 --> 00:17:01,488 We recognize, our souls recognize, 358 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:07,527 that enough is enough, and it's time to speak to the unspoken. 359 00:17:07,627 --> 00:17:12,165 It's time to shed light into the dark. 360 00:17:12,265 --> 00:17:16,870 It's time to actually talk about those things... 361 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:21,375 The injustices, the inequities, the pain 362 00:17:21,475 --> 00:17:26,721 that is a part of our American experience, 363 00:17:26,838 --> 00:17:30,017 not just African American experience. 364 00:17:30,117 --> 00:17:34,955 And "Queen Sugar" does that through great storytelling. 365 00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:36,156 Right now. 366 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:47,334 It's really hard to talk about the tough stuff, 367 00:17:47,434 --> 00:17:51,972 whether it's police brutality, or even 368 00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:54,007 with Nova, mass incarceration, like the stuff 369 00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:55,409 that you know is going on. 370 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:59,513 It's really hard to talk about it because we do talk about it, 371 00:17:59,613 --> 00:18:01,715 so people tune out because they hear it all the time. 372 00:18:01,815 --> 00:18:04,284 So how can you say it in a way that makes people go, 373 00:18:04,384 --> 00:18:06,253 I didn't think about it that way. 374 00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:08,059 When do I get out? 375 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:10,429 Aunt Vi, 376 00:18:13,748 --> 00:18:15,325 I did my time. 377 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,092 When am I done? 378 00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,670 One of the things that I want people to learn and experience 379 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:27,674 through Ralph Angel's journey is to know someone who 380 00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:31,244 was formerly incarcerated, to believe them 381 00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:36,283 when they are moving forward in the world in a new way, 382 00:18:36,383 --> 00:18:38,297 to support them in that, 383 00:18:38,438 --> 00:18:42,289 and to be able to applaud them and cheer them on, 384 00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:47,594 to get rid of that stigma, to really 385 00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:52,399 allow folks to be more than the worst thing that they've done. 386 00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:53,959 I was in prison. 387 00:19:00,225 --> 00:19:01,441 You know what prison is? 388 00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:02,959 Where Black people go. 389 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:09,749 Are you a bad person, Pop? 390 00:19:09,850 --> 00:19:13,086 No, I'm not a bad person. 391 00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:15,155 I did some bad things. 392 00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:20,400 I think one of the things that we should look at 393 00:19:20,492 --> 00:19:21,895 when we think about incarceration 394 00:19:21,995 --> 00:19:23,563 is these aren't statistics. 395 00:19:23,663 --> 00:19:29,536 These are people with real life circumstances and experiences 396 00:19:29,636 --> 00:19:31,304 and stories to tell. 397 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:33,341 "Ralph Angel Bordelon, 398 00:19:37,203 --> 00:19:39,079 on behalf of the state of Louisiana 399 00:19:39,179 --> 00:19:40,905 and the Board of Probation and Parole, 400 00:19:42,645 --> 00:19:46,459 this letter serves you as your official notice. 401 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:51,336 Parole period for Ralph Angel Bordelon concluded 402 00:19:53,492 --> 00:19:56,129 on May 13th of this year. 403 00:19:56,229 --> 00:19:57,964 No further obligations in connection 404 00:19:58,064 --> 00:20:00,133 with the below listed conviction 405 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:03,703 are due to the state of Louisiana." 406 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:07,641 And when we don't make them invisible statistics, 407 00:20:07,741 --> 00:20:10,844 and we actually listen and learn and lean in 408 00:20:10,944 --> 00:20:14,414 to what has happened to them and what is happening to them, 409 00:20:14,514 --> 00:20:16,516 we become a better society, 410 00:20:16,616 --> 00:20:20,887 a better culture, a better people, and everything kind of rises. 411 00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:35,902 Let me see your registration now. 412 00:20:36,002 --> 00:20:37,204 In season two, where 413 00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:40,227 he is stopped by the police and is assaulted, 414 00:20:40,311 --> 00:20:44,244 harassed by an officer, and really traumatized by it, 415 00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:46,012 we wanted to make sure that this wasn't just 416 00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:47,514 a very special episode of "Queen Sugar." 417 00:20:47,614 --> 00:20:48,882 We don't do that. 418 00:20:48,982 --> 00:20:53,887 So we plotted out that storyline going over multiple seasons. 419 00:20:53,987 --> 00:20:56,759 He put me in the back with cuffs on, right? 420 00:20:59,059 --> 00:21:00,974 He drove past the police station. 421 00:21:01,075 --> 00:21:03,096 He said we were going for a ride. 422 00:21:03,196 --> 00:21:05,031 When you have a dramatic interaction 423 00:21:05,131 --> 00:21:08,335 with police, it leaves a scar that doesn't heal. 424 00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:10,437 It changes the way you see the world. 425 00:21:10,537 --> 00:21:14,241 It changes your relationship to safety, to defense. 426 00:21:14,341 --> 00:21:15,792 I'm just tired of it. 427 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:19,012 We can never get so tired we started letting 428 00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:21,715 other folks tell us who we are. 429 00:21:22,273 --> 00:21:24,024 - You hear me? - Yes, sir. 430 00:21:24,126 --> 00:21:25,151 You keep your head up. 431 00:21:25,252 --> 00:21:28,459 Don't let them put you in that place, that dark place. 432 00:21:30,223 --> 00:21:33,727 You keep living, loving, growing 433 00:21:33,752 --> 00:21:35,817 and doing for others, that's the key. 434 00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:40,645 People would tell me how they feel about 435 00:21:40,669 --> 00:21:42,068 Nova and Charley. 436 00:21:42,168 --> 00:21:45,492 They want to ask, is Darla going to be OK? 437 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:47,725 They love this family. 438 00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:51,177 Hi, Ava. "Queen Sugar" superfan here. 439 00:21:51,278 --> 00:21:54,180 So one question that I would like to know, from up high, 440 00:21:54,281 --> 00:21:56,916 all the way down to Boo, these characters are very relatable. 441 00:21:57,017 --> 00:21:58,785 What was your thought process in developing 442 00:21:58,885 --> 00:22:00,220 them and their storylines? 443 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,789 And were they inspired by people in your own life? 444 00:22:02,889 --> 00:22:04,391 Let us know. 445 00:22:04,491 --> 00:22:05,525 Yeah. 446 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,594 Almost everyone on "Queen Sugar" is inspired 447 00:22:07,694 --> 00:22:09,223 by someone that I know. 448 00:22:09,306 --> 00:22:12,085 The beautiful thing about the family in "Queen Sugar" 449 00:22:12,181 --> 00:22:14,601 is all of them represent a different segment 450 00:22:14,701 --> 00:22:16,403 of black cultural life. 451 00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:20,949 And so the goal is to have someone on "Queen Sugar," 452 00:22:21,081 --> 00:22:23,897 both the core family and the other people that we bring in, 453 00:22:23,921 --> 00:22:26,246 that we feel touches every aspect of Black culture. 454 00:22:26,346 --> 00:22:27,480 That's our goal. 455 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:30,350 And by the time we get through the end of the run, 456 00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:31,988 whenever that will be, 457 00:22:32,125 --> 00:22:33,438 that everyone will be able to say, 458 00:22:33,462 --> 00:22:35,322 I see a little bit of myself in there, 459 00:22:35,422 --> 00:22:38,358 if you are Black and live in America, 460 00:22:38,458 --> 00:22:40,927 because this is an homage to Black family, 461 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:44,759 to Black community, and it is for us. 462 00:22:47,267 --> 00:22:50,370 One of the gifts of my life is being an artist who's 463 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:53,540 been allowed to make things that people 464 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,508 have consumed on a mass level. 465 00:22:55,608 --> 00:23:01,448 So here is to Michael West, a beloved son. 466 00:23:01,548 --> 00:23:02,917 And nephew. 467 00:23:02,942 --> 00:23:03,864 Yeah. 468 00:23:05,018 --> 00:23:07,487 You have so much to give the world. 469 00:23:07,587 --> 00:23:08,655 Congrats, baby. 470 00:23:08,755 --> 00:23:09,984 - Cheers. - Cheers. 471 00:23:10,009 --> 00:23:11,099 Cheers. 472 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:13,993 The people would tell me how they 473 00:23:14,094 --> 00:23:16,262 feel about Nova and Charley. 474 00:23:16,363 --> 00:23:19,725 They want to ask, is Darla going to be OK? 475 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,368 They love this family. 476 00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:23,770 They want to be friends with Vi and Hollywood 477 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:26,940 and go over to the house and get some food and go to Vi's Pies. 478 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,077 They've become a part of their lived experience. 479 00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:33,079 You get to see people that you love and you know 480 00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:34,848 and you root for. 481 00:23:34,948 --> 00:23:37,183 "Queen Sugar" is real. 482 00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:39,959 We're talking real stuff. 483 00:23:41,287 --> 00:23:44,457 We are literally holding a mirror up 484 00:23:44,557 --> 00:23:48,328 and our audience is seeing themselves, and seeing 485 00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:53,666 themselves in a way that you haven't seen on television, 486 00:23:53,767 --> 00:23:57,504 and it feels good to see yourself. 487 00:23:57,604 --> 00:24:00,340 We see every shade of skin tone. 488 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,208 We see every walk of life. 489 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,178 And we see it celebrated. 490 00:24:05,278 --> 00:24:08,615 Everybody say congratulations to Councilwoman Bordelon. 491 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:14,187 I think that people gravitate toward them 492 00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:18,558 because they have these layers and these dimensions that 493 00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:19,972 are included. 494 00:24:19,997 --> 00:24:21,928 They don't have to be perfect. 495 00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:24,030 They don't have to be one thing. 496 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:29,335 They can be contradictions and flawed and beautifully human. 497 00:24:29,436 --> 00:24:32,071 If there's one thing that Charley walks with that 498 00:24:32,172 --> 00:24:35,442 is unlike any other woman I've played, 499 00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:40,113 it's complete trust in herself. 500 00:24:40,213 --> 00:24:44,017 When you come for me and the people of St. Joe, 501 00:24:44,117 --> 00:24:49,389 you better not miss, and you missed. 502 00:24:49,489 --> 00:24:52,826 I think in this time, exactly who we need to be seeing 503 00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:55,106 on screen is a trailblazer, 504 00:24:55,228 --> 00:25:00,500 someone who is unafraid to take on spaces that she 505 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,525 isn't necessarily welcome. 506 00:25:03,203 --> 00:25:04,737 Charley. 507 00:25:04,838 --> 00:25:07,192 I say this out of love. 508 00:25:08,125 --> 00:25:10,343 Your mama made you a control freak. 509 00:25:10,443 --> 00:25:11,892 She did. 510 00:25:12,612 --> 00:25:17,692 But you have a blank slate, with yourself and with Micah. 511 00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:22,655 Just being a leading, dark-skinned woman of color 512 00:25:22,733 --> 00:25:26,993 in a show like this, you don't see a lot. 513 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:30,630 Also, maybe I think we don't see Black journalists a lot 514 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:32,298 in that world. 515 00:25:32,398 --> 00:25:36,669 I meet a lot of people who are very much Novas in the world 516 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:39,572 and have said, I've never seen myself on TV. 517 00:25:39,672 --> 00:25:41,441 You go through your whole life knowing exactly 518 00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:43,325 why you're the way you are. 519 00:25:45,745 --> 00:25:47,507 And then you get one new piece of the puzzle 520 00:25:47,603 --> 00:25:49,148 and the whole picture changes. 521 00:25:49,249 --> 00:25:50,650 Because I've gotten a lot of chocolate 522 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:53,586 little girls that come up to me and say, you look like my mom, 523 00:25:53,686 --> 00:25:55,655 or you remind me of... 524 00:25:55,755 --> 00:25:57,857 And it gets me all choked up. 525 00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:02,462 A lot of times as a kid, I didn't have examples on TV, 526 00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:04,898 so I had to like dream it up. 527 00:26:04,998 --> 00:26:08,434 But as soon as I started seeing Viola Davis and Angela Bassett, 528 00:26:08,535 --> 00:26:09,769 I was like, oh. 529 00:26:09,869 --> 00:26:12,892 I should have discussed what I was doing with you, 530 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:14,892 with everyone. 531 00:26:16,213 --> 00:26:17,614 I got your blessing. 532 00:26:17,639 --> 00:26:22,425 And if I had said no, don't do it, would you have listened? 533 00:26:24,684 --> 00:26:29,155 Violet is an important addition to television 534 00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:33,493 because there's so many Violets in the world, 535 00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:37,530 and television doesn't usually share 536 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:42,459 that woman's life in the way that Violet is representing it. 537 00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:47,006 A lot of times, when you see Black mamas on TV or in film, 538 00:26:47,106 --> 00:26:48,875 especially when it's not done by Black people, 539 00:26:48,975 --> 00:26:50,243 they're going to be the old Black mama. 540 00:26:50,343 --> 00:26:52,412 Now, old Black mamas are fine, but 541 00:26:52,512 --> 00:26:55,949 most Black moms are still fine. 542 00:26:56,049 --> 00:27:01,054 And Vi is a hat tip, a genuflection, and a bow 543 00:27:01,154 --> 00:27:03,790 with a flourish to these women. 544 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:06,859 Just by virtue of her presence, 545 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,531 there's all of these women that are being able to imagine 546 00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:14,513 themselves as fully alive, 547 00:27:14,621 --> 00:27:18,538 still having the right to dream, imagining themselves 548 00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:21,047 in love late in life. 549 00:27:21,136 --> 00:27:26,879 She's exciting because she gives permission to women over 50 550 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,281 and above. 551 00:27:28,381 --> 00:27:31,259 But family is family, and now we are. 552 00:27:33,979 --> 00:27:35,214 Thank you, Ms. Vi. 553 00:27:35,239 --> 00:27:39,325 There's something about showing the humanity, as you say, 554 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:42,061 of addiction and the reality of it. 555 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:45,898 And it's not in some exaggerated, super heightened, 556 00:27:45,999 --> 00:27:51,417 melodramatic way, but it's like the real day-to-day basic 557 00:27:51,512 --> 00:27:54,253 details of just what it is to get through each moment, 558 00:27:54,339 --> 00:27:57,630 get through each day in a real time feeling way. 559 00:27:57,736 --> 00:27:59,045 How are you doing? 560 00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:06,719 I'm, um, I'm feeling stable and helpful. 561 00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:11,624 My main question that I get so, so often on the street, 562 00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:17,030 on social media, especially in seasons three and four, 563 00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:19,732 were please don't let anything happen to Darla. 564 00:28:19,832 --> 00:28:21,427 Please don't let her backslide. 565 00:28:21,511 --> 00:28:22,995 Please keep her on the straight and narrow. 566 00:28:23,097 --> 00:28:24,390 Please keep her safe and healthy. 567 00:28:24,497 --> 00:28:28,174 People have really come to be attached to her. 568 00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:31,611 The fragility that Bianca Lawson brings to the character 569 00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:35,214 is something that has really resonated with people. 570 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,917 I was at the airport in Houston 571 00:28:38,017 --> 00:28:40,386 and a woman came up to me, and she was like, 572 00:28:40,486 --> 00:28:43,056 does anyone ever tell you you look just like Darla? 573 00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:44,390 And I was like, actually, I'm Darla. 574 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:45,558 She's like, oh my god. 575 00:28:45,658 --> 00:28:46,893 I am Darla. 576 00:28:46,993 --> 00:28:48,825 That is my story. 577 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:52,532 And I haven't seen it told in television that way, 578 00:28:52,632 --> 00:28:54,867 in such a realistic way. 579 00:28:54,967 --> 00:28:59,872 Dear God, help me make the best use of what is in my power. 580 00:28:59,972 --> 00:29:03,425 It's just been an honor to be in people's homes in that way. 581 00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:06,112 I remember saying to him, 582 00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:07,947 I don't think your life's going to be the same 583 00:29:08,047 --> 00:29:13,292 after you do this part, because I'm making him my dream man. 584 00:29:14,151 --> 00:29:17,623 My name is Rochelle and I live in Los Angeles, 585 00:29:17,724 --> 00:29:21,060 and "Queen Sugar" is my favorite show. 586 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,462 I just want to know, what was one 587 00:29:22,562 --> 00:29:24,964 of the more emotionally challenging scenes 588 00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:27,600 that you had to film, and why? 589 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:28,968 Thank you. 590 00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:30,892 Well, thank you for watching. 591 00:29:31,608 --> 00:29:33,973 There's so many, my goodness. 592 00:29:34,073 --> 00:29:39,118 I shot the episode where Ernest passes away in the hospital bed 593 00:29:39,224 --> 00:29:42,025 on episode one, season one. 594 00:29:45,051 --> 00:29:47,420 One of the hardest things I've ever shot... 595 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,525 It was the first time that I ever cried after a take. 596 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:58,231 It's a very deeply emotional scene, for me deeply personal, 597 00:29:58,331 --> 00:30:02,201 and it was the hardest thing I think I've ever shot. 598 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:05,037 And I'm so happy that I did and that it's on film 599 00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:06,873 to be shared with folks. 600 00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:08,541 I think it means a lot to a lot of people, 601 00:30:08,641 --> 00:30:11,043 and it was a real honor to shoot it. 602 00:30:11,144 --> 00:30:12,759 Amen, brother Ernest. 603 00:30:13,746 --> 00:30:16,025 May you rest in peace. 604 00:30:21,454 --> 00:30:23,990 And then I keep saying, I don't need this fuss. 605 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:26,826 Well, you're about to get one right now. 606 00:30:26,926 --> 00:30:27,760 Surprise. 607 00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:31,964 The Hollywood and Vi relationship 608 00:30:32,064 --> 00:30:34,233 is just extremely important. 609 00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:37,003 We have to see this love, no matter Black love, 610 00:30:37,103 --> 00:30:39,472 or people in their 40s, 50s, 60s, or whatever, it's really 611 00:30:39,572 --> 00:30:42,341 good to show two people who are so supportive of each other 612 00:30:42,441 --> 00:30:43,876 and will uplift each other. 613 00:30:43,976 --> 00:30:46,192 Oh, we needed this, baby. 614 00:30:46,913 --> 00:30:48,014 No Diana. 615 00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,483 No family. Just us. 616 00:30:50,925 --> 00:30:53,553 I don't remember the last time I was this relaxed. 617 00:30:53,653 --> 00:30:57,523 Omar Dorsey and I met and became friends on "Selma." 618 00:30:57,623 --> 00:31:00,459 Then I asked him to do "Queen Sugar." 619 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,628 And I said to him, I remember saying to him, 620 00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:03,963 I don't think your life's going to be 621 00:31:04,063 --> 00:31:06,899 the same after you do this part, because I'm 622 00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:10,225 making him my dream man. 623 00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:15,608 I knew. 624 00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:17,410 I knew you were going to take it too far. 625 00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:18,544 I knew you were. 626 00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:20,046 What I like most about Hollywood 627 00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:21,547 is just the way that he treats his lady. 628 00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:23,916 It's this southern gentleman. 629 00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:28,421 It's this blue collar, hard-working man, 630 00:31:28,521 --> 00:31:31,891 what I always envisioned what a man should be. 631 00:31:31,991 --> 00:31:36,028 Oh, man, I ain't never had nothing like you in my life. 632 00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,831 She is in love in a way 633 00:31:38,931 --> 00:31:44,136 that she never imagined would be her possibility, 634 00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:46,072 and she's loving every minute of it. 635 00:31:46,172 --> 00:31:47,406 Where are you going? 636 00:31:47,506 --> 00:31:52,612 I am a lady and it is time for me to do my lady things. 637 00:31:52,712 --> 00:31:55,715 Then I'm coming back, and when I do, 638 00:31:55,815 --> 00:31:58,718 I do not intend to be a lady. 639 00:31:58,818 --> 00:32:02,688 Hollywood's my man, and he's always 640 00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:05,324 fighting for our relationship. 641 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:07,927 I'm not fighting against him, but he's 642 00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:10,129 still always fighting for it in a way 643 00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:11,831 that just makes you swoon. 644 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:16,292 I done left my job to be with you. 645 00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:19,972 Does that sound like somebody who doesn't want to be with you 646 00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:21,307 for the rest of their life? 647 00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:22,708 I love the character. 648 00:32:22,808 --> 00:32:24,343 Omar plays it perfectly. 649 00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:27,179 But he is unconditional love and support 650 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,950 within the realm of traditional Black masculinity. 651 00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:34,453 I just wanted to show a Black man because I know them. 652 00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:35,588 I know them. 653 00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:40,059 My father was one who just loves his woman. 654 00:32:40,993 --> 00:32:45,892 You have to ask yourself if tomorrows are for other folk. 655 00:32:47,066 --> 00:32:53,272 I really admire Oprah for seeing a void in television 656 00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:55,308 and seeing a void in representation 657 00:32:55,408 --> 00:32:57,977 and filling that void very simply. 658 00:32:58,077 --> 00:32:59,879 Just like that. 659 00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:01,814 That's what I'm talking about, buddy. 660 00:33:01,914 --> 00:33:04,817 I think what's really extraordinary about Darla 661 00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:06,786 and Ralph Angel is there's something very real 662 00:33:06,886 --> 00:33:08,688 about the relationship to me. 663 00:33:08,788 --> 00:33:13,659 Because it's not a simplistic, idealized fantasy. 664 00:33:14,193 --> 00:33:18,597 They really get into the depths and the dirt and the darkness 665 00:33:18,698 --> 00:33:20,366 and the light, everything. 666 00:33:21,767 --> 00:33:24,659 Maybe you'll see things differently if you hear me out. 667 00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:28,708 I'm listening. 668 00:33:28,808 --> 00:33:31,610 Darla and Ralph Angel, their whole relationship 669 00:33:31,711 --> 00:33:34,113 is just so dimensional. 670 00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:37,917 There's so many micro worlds within this one, 671 00:33:38,017 --> 00:33:41,854 I guess, macro love, from Blue to who they are as individuals, 672 00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:43,622 who they are together, who they were, 673 00:33:43,723 --> 00:33:46,392 and now these parents they've grown into. 674 00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:51,959 I would still choose you, 100 times over, 675 00:33:52,932 --> 00:33:54,525 just like your daddy. 676 00:33:55,835 --> 00:33:58,237 The love story of the series, some people 677 00:33:58,337 --> 00:33:59,472 think it's Charley and Davis. 678 00:33:59,572 --> 00:34:01,140 Some people think it's Micah and KeKe. 679 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,842 Some people think it's Violet and Hollywood 680 00:34:02,942 --> 00:34:03,976 or Calvin and Nova. 681 00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:05,511 It's not even Ralph Angel and Darla. 682 00:34:05,611 --> 00:34:07,546 It is Ralph Angel and Blue. 683 00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:09,125 That's my boy. 684 00:34:09,782 --> 00:34:11,677 From the very, very first scene of them 685 00:34:11,766 --> 00:34:17,590 is Ralph Angel's dogged determined, dynamic, radical 686 00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:18,858 love for his son. 687 00:34:18,958 --> 00:34:22,728 That has taken us as creators, artists, 688 00:34:22,828 --> 00:34:26,732 and the viewers and fans of the show, on quite a ride. 689 00:34:26,832 --> 00:34:30,069 We've been able to explore Black fatherhood 690 00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:35,274 in ways that are very exciting to me, very important to me. 691 00:34:35,374 --> 00:34:36,742 Close your eyes. 692 00:34:36,842 --> 00:34:38,292 All right. 693 00:34:42,181 --> 00:34:43,525 OK, are can open them. 694 00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:47,853 You like it? 695 00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:50,890 Nah, I love it. 696 00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:52,792 It's one of Aunt Vi's pies. 697 00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:54,892 I'm proud of it. 698 00:34:56,659 --> 00:34:57,997 You should be proud of it. 699 00:34:58,097 --> 00:34:59,532 That central relationship 700 00:34:59,632 --> 00:35:02,568 is such a pleasure to create, to write, 701 00:35:02,668 --> 00:35:04,737 to direct, to produce, to edit. 702 00:35:04,837 --> 00:35:06,972 I love any scene with the two of them. 703 00:35:07,073 --> 00:35:08,808 And that bond is really sacred for all of us 704 00:35:08,908 --> 00:35:10,643 who work on "Queen Sugar." 705 00:35:10,743 --> 00:35:14,613 In the midst of a year unlike any other, 706 00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:17,216 it felt like we had to stop and do whatever 707 00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:19,925 we could to tell the story. 708 00:35:20,839 --> 00:35:23,289 My name is Billye Moutra and I am a 709 00:35:23,389 --> 00:35:28,294 Huge fan of "Queen Sugar." 710 00:35:28,394 --> 00:35:31,030 Ava, you are a visionary and you have opened up 711 00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:34,467 so many doors for women and women of color 712 00:35:34,567 --> 00:35:36,035 with "Queen Sugar." 713 00:35:36,135 --> 00:35:37,703 Women are our future. 714 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:40,439 Do you believe that this will be a stepping stone 715 00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:43,142 for the entertainment industry, and maybe they 716 00:35:43,242 --> 00:35:46,145 will take heed and do something about their lack 717 00:35:46,245 --> 00:35:48,347 of representation? 718 00:35:48,447 --> 00:35:50,683 Well, love her. 719 00:35:50,783 --> 00:35:51,917 Thank you, Billye. 720 00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:54,086 I don't know what the industry is going to do. 721 00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:55,788 We can lead by example. 722 00:35:55,888 --> 00:35:57,890 We can handle and take care of ourselves. 723 00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:59,892 We do that on all of our productions. 724 00:35:59,992 --> 00:36:01,360 And so we're doing it. 725 00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:03,655 If other people want to follow, they can. 726 00:36:03,744 --> 00:36:06,992 If they want to ask us how we do it, we're here to tell them. 727 00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:14,540 Well, I'm so proud of our "Queen Sugar" directorial team. 728 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,542 I'll get emotional if I'm not careful, 729 00:36:16,642 --> 00:36:18,577 so I'll be very careful. 730 00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,614 Most of the women who directed "Queen Sugar" 731 00:36:21,714 --> 00:36:24,717 over the past five seasons, it was their first episode 732 00:36:24,817 --> 00:36:25,751 of television. 733 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:27,453 They come from different walks of life, 734 00:36:27,553 --> 00:36:29,088 but they were ready, in my opinion, 735 00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:31,757 and I handpicked them all to direct. 736 00:36:31,857 --> 00:36:34,593 Victoria Mahoney became the first woman 737 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:37,229 to ever touch a camera on the "Star Wars" franchise, 738 00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:39,899 and her first episode of television was "Queen Sugar." 739 00:36:39,999 --> 00:36:42,268 Salli Richardson-Whitfield, she starred in my first movie, 740 00:36:42,368 --> 00:36:43,588 "I Will Follow." 741 00:36:43,666 --> 00:36:44,770 I said, you should direct. 742 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:46,939 Now she's got this massive deal at HBO. 743 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,508 She's directed over 13 different series. 744 00:36:49,608 --> 00:36:52,778 Amanda Marsalis was an independent filmmaker. 745 00:36:52,878 --> 00:36:56,282 She's gone on to direct "Westworld" and "Ozark." 746 00:36:56,382 --> 00:36:59,685 DeMane Davis, she was doing commercials. 747 00:36:59,785 --> 00:37:02,688 Now she's the producer and director on "Clarice," 748 00:37:02,788 --> 00:37:04,223 the big CBS shows. 749 00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:08,160 Kat Candler was an independent film director who 750 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:09,774 I was friends with at Sundance. 751 00:37:09,866 --> 00:37:12,898 She ended up directing episodes, eventually becoming 752 00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:14,733 the producing director, and eventually 753 00:37:14,833 --> 00:37:16,435 becoming the show runner. 754 00:37:16,535 --> 00:37:18,938 This season, there are three women directors. 755 00:37:19,038 --> 00:37:21,674 Only three women directors directed 756 00:37:21,774 --> 00:37:24,677 all 10 episodes of this season of "Queen Sugar"... 757 00:37:24,777 --> 00:37:30,449 Lisa France, Lauren Wolkstein, and Cierra Glaude. 758 00:37:30,549 --> 00:37:33,752 So the journey with all these women and more, so many more, 759 00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:35,154 has been spectacular. 760 00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:37,923 It's one of the things I'm most proud of. 761 00:37:38,023 --> 00:37:42,995 And I have worked really hard with all of the producing team 762 00:37:43,095 --> 00:37:45,064 to say, we're going to make a set where 763 00:37:45,164 --> 00:37:47,366 crew members can look around and see other people who 764 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:48,634 look like them. 765 00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:50,069 If you're a woman, you're going to see other women. 766 00:37:50,169 --> 00:37:52,404 If you are Black, you're going to see other Black folks... 767 00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:57,109 Brown folks, Asian, Middle Eastern, across the board, 768 00:37:57,209 --> 00:38:01,814 making sure that our crews reflect the real world. 769 00:38:01,914 --> 00:38:03,315 I think that's the beauty of "Queen Sugar." 770 00:38:03,415 --> 00:38:04,550 It's just reflective. 771 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,152 In the most simple ways, it's showing people dealing 772 00:38:07,253 --> 00:38:09,989 with everyday situations, family situations, 773 00:38:10,089 --> 00:38:12,157 personal identity situations. 774 00:38:12,258 --> 00:38:14,693 And it just makes it so presentable. 775 00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:18,130 Together, we will reclaim our parish. 776 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:23,435 We are St. Josephine's parish in the grand state of Louisiana, 777 00:38:23,535 --> 00:38:26,069 and we ain't going anywhere. 778 00:38:28,374 --> 00:38:29,642 Our show is about a Black family 779 00:38:29,742 --> 00:38:31,610 in a very specific place. 780 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,147 And it was a lost opportunity if we went ahead and used 781 00:38:35,247 --> 00:38:37,216 the scripts that we had for season five 782 00:38:37,316 --> 00:38:42,254 and shot them in the midst of a year unlike any other. 783 00:38:42,354 --> 00:38:45,958 It felt like we had to stop and do whatever we could to tell 784 00:38:46,058 --> 00:38:49,461 the story, but it took the studio and the network, 785 00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:53,599 Warner Brothers and OWN, to say, OK, if you think you can do it. 786 00:38:53,699 --> 00:38:55,434 Because there wasn't a lot of time. 787 00:38:55,534 --> 00:38:59,538 Paul Garnes and I, my producing partner, my writer, Di, 788 00:38:59,642 --> 00:39:01,206 we had big ideas about how we 789 00:39:01,307 --> 00:39:03,609 wanted to do this, a whole different shooting style... 790 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:06,412 How we would keep the crew and cars safe in COVID, 791 00:39:06,512 --> 00:39:09,014 and basically creating this kind of "Queen Sugar" hotel. 792 00:39:09,114 --> 00:39:11,850 We had so many ideas about the way we'd pull it off, 793 00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:14,953 it really took a well-oiled machine to put together. 794 00:39:15,054 --> 00:39:16,722 It took a lot of faith all of our partners, 795 00:39:16,822 --> 00:39:18,157 and I'm really grateful to them. 796 00:39:18,257 --> 00:39:20,059 I think the season's quite special. 797 00:39:25,392 --> 00:39:28,167 You're about to see an exclusive clip from "Queen Sugar," one 798 00:39:28,267 --> 00:39:29,668 of my favorite little scenes. 799 00:39:29,768 --> 00:39:34,206 Nothing huge is going on, but this is in episode one, 800 00:39:34,306 --> 00:39:37,142 and it teases what's to come, because this season, 801 00:39:37,242 --> 00:39:40,179 we're going to be able to finally see Ralph Angel 802 00:39:40,279 --> 00:39:43,055 and Darla happy for a little while. 803 00:39:43,165 --> 00:39:44,592 Isn't that going to be nice? 804 00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:47,820 Rise and shine, Mommy. 805 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,659 Rise and shine. 806 00:39:52,791 --> 00:39:55,392 Breakfast in bed. 807 00:39:55,627 --> 00:39:57,525 The fourth time this week. 808 00:39:58,330 --> 00:40:00,359 You're spoiling me. 809 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,625 You both are. 810 00:40:04,036 --> 00:40:06,038 I got the toast right this time. 811 00:40:06,063 --> 00:40:07,047 Taste. 812 00:40:07,072 --> 00:40:09,459 - OK. - Go ahead and taste that. 813 00:40:14,213 --> 00:40:15,314 Mm. 814 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,690 - It's very good. - Yes. 815 00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:18,957 It's very good. 816 00:40:19,058 --> 00:40:20,986 Somebody's got to get ready for school. 817 00:40:21,425 --> 00:40:23,589 I got to drop you off for the family's big day. 818 00:40:23,689 --> 00:40:25,624 Every day is a big day now that Mom is here. 819 00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:27,059 That's right. 820 00:40:28,026 --> 00:40:29,725 - Bye. - Bye. 821 00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:33,899 You know that toast is burnt. 822 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,535 Why do you lie to that boy? 823 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:37,623 Come here. 824 00:40:46,691 --> 00:40:47,925 I'm happy. 825 00:40:48,814 --> 00:40:52,551 Me, too, especially today. 826 00:40:52,651 --> 00:40:55,421 The goal is to make sure that we can change our space 827 00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:58,257 and create an autonomous zone, 828 00:40:58,357 --> 00:41:02,261 where we can tell our stories with agency 829 00:41:02,361 --> 00:41:05,464 and with love and with depth. 830 00:41:05,564 --> 00:41:08,901 And we're doing that, now five seasons strong. 831 00:41:09,001 --> 00:41:11,703 And are grateful to everyone who's watched 832 00:41:11,804 --> 00:41:13,305 and made that possible. 833 00:41:13,405 --> 00:41:16,108 My favorite character, personally, is Ralph Angel. 834 00:41:16,208 --> 00:41:19,011 We wouldn't be able to do it without you, so much love. 835 00:41:19,111 --> 00:41:21,079 Well, my favorite character is Nova. 836 00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,548 I'm like, our fans are very enthusiastic. 837 00:41:24,082 --> 00:41:28,020 The person that resonated with me the most is Aunt Violet. 838 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,659 We thank you so much for tuning in and letting us know. 839 00:41:33,759 --> 00:41:36,195 My favorite character on "Queen Sugar" 840 00:41:36,295 --> 00:41:37,796 is Charley Bordelon. 841 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:41,400 We love you, and thank you. 64299

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