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Buckle your seatbelt. 2 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:22,367 This is gonna be the bet. 3 00:00:23,867 --> 00:00:25,666 If I won, 4 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:28,165 I get to come over to your house with my bag of goodies. 5 00:00:28,166 --> 00:00:30,666 Uh, inside my bag of goodies 6 00:00:30,667 --> 00:00:35,099 there are several different bundles of shibari rope. 7 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:38,466 Shibari is the Japanese art of rope bondage. 8 00:00:38,467 --> 00:00:41,600 My bet was going to involve showing up at your place 9 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:44,265 and completely tying you up and incapacitating you 10 00:00:44,266 --> 00:00:46,100 and then being able to do whatever I wanted 11 00:00:46,166 --> 00:00:50,600 to every single hole in your body until I was done with you. 12 00:00:53,266 --> 00:00:57,099 Trouble for Golden Globe nominee, Armie Hammer, 13 00:00:57,100 --> 00:01:00,966 known for his roles in The Social Network and Call Me By Your Name. 14 00:01:00,967 --> 00:01:03,866 Disturbing and racy messages allegedly sent to women 15 00:01:03,867 --> 00:01:06,066 by the actor Armie Hammer are trending on Twitter. 16 00:01:11,867 --> 00:01:15,766 Shocking DM's allegedly sent from Armie Hammer's public accounts 17 00:01:15,767 --> 00:01:18,800 are going viral on social media. 18 00:01:18,867 --> 00:01:21,866 How did Armie Hammer go from Hollywood golden boy 19 00:01:21,867 --> 00:01:23,599 to an alleged abuser? 20 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,065 The actor Armie Hammer has been confirmed as the suspect 21 00:01:27,066 --> 00:01:29,200 in an alleged sexual assault case 22 00:01:29,266 --> 00:01:31,367 by the Los Angeles Police Department. 23 00:01:33,867 --> 00:01:37,866 I thought we were all joking about that Armie Hammer stuff, but that's real? 24 00:01:37,867 --> 00:01:40,200 I just found out that that's real. 25 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:42,866 I have a new development, his aunt wrote a book about their family, 26 00:01:42,867 --> 00:01:45,067 and let me tell you, this stuff didn't start with Armie. 27 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:48,366 I know my grandfather had a dark side, 28 00:01:48,367 --> 00:01:51,500 but I saw my father's dark side firsthand, 29 00:01:51,567 --> 00:01:53,266 and I've seen my brother's dark side. 30 00:01:55,166 --> 00:01:58,466 And I've just heard about Armie's dark side, but I believe it. 31 00:01:58,467 --> 00:02:00,700 More. One more. 32 00:02:00,767 --> 00:02:04,766 Every generation in my family has been involved in dark misdeeds... 33 00:02:04,767 --> 00:02:07,767 and it just gets worse and worse and worse. 34 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:25,265 My name's Courtney Vucekovich, um, I am from Dallas, Texas. 35 00:03:25,266 --> 00:03:29,667 I am the CEO and founder of an app called FLASHD. 36 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:33,367 I started that in 2017. 37 00:03:36,266 --> 00:03:40,400 I'm here to talk about... 38 00:03:43,166 --> 00:03:47,866 what happened in my relationship with Armie Hammer. 39 00:03:47,867 --> 00:03:52,766 I would love to be able to paint a picture 40 00:03:52,767 --> 00:03:56,200 of the red flags that I saw and... 41 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:02,600 what happened in order for me to get in the mindset 42 00:04:02,667 --> 00:04:06,300 where I was almost fully controlled by somebody. 43 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,567 I had lost my entire sense of self. 44 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:15,467 You're his. Completely. 45 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:29,366 I think it was November, December, 2019. 46 00:04:29,367 --> 00:04:32,165 I remember the Christmas lights in Highland Park Village. 47 00:04:32,166 --> 00:04:35,000 They light up. It's super gorgeous. 48 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:39,467 I'm just trying to enjoy a night with my friends at a bar in Dallas. 49 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:44,366 Then my friend's like, "That's Armie Hammer, from the Facebook movie." 50 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:47,000 I didn't know who he was. Like, he was tall, 51 00:04:47,066 --> 00:04:51,500 and he didn't dress like a frat boy, so I was like, "Wow, yeah. He's super cute." 52 00:04:51,567 --> 00:04:54,366 We, like, saw each other in passing, like, 53 00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:58,266 spoke very briefly at the bar, and then I go home. 54 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,066 Then I woke up the next morning, 55 00:05:05,967 --> 00:05:08,265 and he had added me on Instagram. 56 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:14,900 I followed him back, and just sat there from afar looking at each other's lives. 57 00:05:14,967 --> 00:05:19,099 He acts very goofy. I remember being like, "This is fun." 58 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:22,466 It made him feel interesting. 59 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:26,800 Breaking news tonight as the COVID-19 virus continues to spread, 60 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:29,966 forcing millions of Americans into lockdown, 61 00:05:29,967 --> 00:05:33,666 non-essential business ordered to close. 62 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:36,900 COVID happened in March, so with everything shut down, 63 00:05:36,967 --> 00:05:39,400 my business was on pause. 64 00:05:39,467 --> 00:05:41,387 So you're like, sitting there with your thoughts. 65 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:46,265 It was difficult, and then June 2020, 66 00:05:46,266 --> 00:05:51,000 I get an Armie Hammer DM, a little blue checkmark. 67 00:05:51,066 --> 00:05:55,300 He just chose to speak to me one day, so I was like, "Hmm." 68 00:05:55,367 --> 00:05:57,066 You know, my brain, I'm like... 69 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,100 "I've been doing nothing for a month. 70 00:06:00,166 --> 00:06:03,265 It's COVID. This is interesting." 71 00:06:03,266 --> 00:06:07,666 But I was very hesitant because I see the persona 72 00:06:07,667 --> 00:06:10,466 that was public, was he's married and that he's the father 73 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:12,766 of these two beautiful kids. 74 00:06:12,767 --> 00:06:16,900 So I was like, "Aren't you married?" You know? 75 00:06:16,967 --> 00:06:21,165 He's like, "My wife and I, we have been separated for almost two years." 76 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:23,867 I've been living in New York. She lives in LA. 77 00:06:24,867 --> 00:06:26,165 And I believed it 78 00:06:26,166 --> 00:06:29,400 because he would send me text messages 79 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:33,866 and call me every day, constant communication. 80 00:06:33,867 --> 00:06:37,500 The second he woke up to we'd fall asleep on the phone together. 81 00:06:39,166 --> 00:06:44,566 And immediately he was just sharing all these things with me, 82 00:06:44,567 --> 00:06:46,867 intimate details about his parents, 83 00:06:47,567 --> 00:06:50,566 family secrets, and I'm like, 84 00:06:50,567 --> 00:06:55,265 "Wow, this is, like, really powerful. He must feel, like, really safe." 85 00:06:55,266 --> 00:07:00,266 In return, I felt very safe telling him mine. 86 00:07:02,367 --> 00:07:08,200 I had gotten out of a really, really, toxic relationship. 87 00:07:08,266 --> 00:07:12,766 And we were sharing just very intimate things. 88 00:07:12,767 --> 00:07:19,100 A lot of the things we shared were trauma we experienced as children. 89 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,600 And it is even a deeper connection, 90 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:25,766 like, really, like, rooted those bonds for me, 91 00:07:25,767 --> 00:07:28,065 that he was so vulnerable to share something like this with me, 92 00:07:28,066 --> 00:07:29,306 because I'd never told anybody. 93 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:31,333 I wanted to help him. 94 00:07:32,767 --> 00:07:36,900 At the same time, he's blowing me up with compliments. 95 00:07:36,967 --> 00:07:41,099 "How could you be this beautiful? This smart? So funny? 96 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:44,100 You're such a good listener. You get me." 97 00:07:44,166 --> 00:07:47,466 It's like, he's like, "I feel such an intense connection with you. 98 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,600 Is that crazy? Are we being crazy?" 99 00:07:49,667 --> 00:07:51,166 And I'm just like, "Maybe we are." 100 00:07:52,567 --> 00:07:57,165 Between the love bombing and the attention, 101 00:07:57,166 --> 00:08:01,200 I felt like this was all perfect, 102 00:08:01,266 --> 00:08:05,165 this was amazing, this was, like, what we're all taught to think 103 00:08:05,166 --> 00:08:08,999 is a fairy tale when we're little. 104 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Not only is he an actor, a pretty well-known actor... 105 00:08:12,867 --> 00:08:18,466 he was gorgeous and tall and... What does he want with me? 106 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:21,466 You know, to say, to say that it didn't have an effect would... 107 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:24,500 I think it would have an effect on anybody. 108 00:08:24,567 --> 00:08:28,500 Unfortunately, Armie Hammer can't be here today, which is probably better 109 00:08:28,567 --> 00:08:30,466 because we'd all be staring at him 110 00:08:30,467 --> 00:08:32,367 since he's such a God damn hunk. 111 00:08:34,367 --> 00:08:37,265 There's, like, certain people that if they shine their light on you, 112 00:08:37,266 --> 00:08:40,100 you believe, like, you're the only person in the room. 113 00:08:40,166 --> 00:08:42,600 There is an element of that to Armie. 114 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:47,065 I know Armie through acting class. 115 00:08:47,066 --> 00:08:50,766 We were in the same Tuesday night acting class for years. 116 00:08:50,767 --> 00:08:53,265 I got to watch his, kind of, rise to stardom. 117 00:08:53,266 --> 00:08:56,300 Armie had bit player roles in the beginning. 118 00:08:56,367 --> 00:09:00,065 He would have a couple of lines, you know? It builds a resume. 119 00:09:00,066 --> 00:09:01,499 Hey! Star dork. 120 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:04,065 And then he got Gossip Girl, and that was, what? 121 00:09:04,066 --> 00:09:05,700 Like, a couple of episodes? 122 00:09:05,767 --> 00:09:07,866 But we were all in the same kind of boat. 123 00:09:07,867 --> 00:09:10,567 We were all just scrambling to try to get auditions. 124 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:15,866 The Social Network auditions kinda hit like a tornado. 125 00:09:15,867 --> 00:09:20,166 Everybody was auditioning for these roles, you know? This is a great opportunity. 126 00:09:21,066 --> 00:09:24,366 Armie was cast as the Winklevoss twins. 127 00:09:24,367 --> 00:09:28,566 They had the idea for Facebook on the Harvard campus. 128 00:09:28,567 --> 00:09:33,566 You know, the attributes are tall, good-looking, comes from extreme wealth. 129 00:09:33,567 --> 00:09:35,666 Armie has all of those. 130 00:09:35,667 --> 00:09:38,766 And I do remember hearing that David Fincher, 131 00:09:38,767 --> 00:09:42,466 the director of The Social Network, liked Armie's pedigree. 132 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:45,566 These are millionaires. Who knows better than that 133 00:09:45,567 --> 00:09:49,099 than a descendant of Armand Hammer? 134 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,400 I just can't get over what a great name "Armie Hammer" is. 135 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:54,900 It's just a really hard name to be when you're like, five. 136 00:09:54,967 --> 00:09:56,466 Especially 'cause it's, like, short for "Armand." 137 00:09:56,467 --> 00:09:59,000 Which is, like, a big name for a little kid, so... 138 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:01,466 - You were named for your great grandfather... - Yeah. 139 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:05,265 Who was the billionaire owner of, uh, Occidental Petroleum. 140 00:10:05,266 --> 00:10:07,966 - Yes. - Which sounds like the bad corporation 141 00:10:07,967 --> 00:10:11,766 in a Batman movie, by the way. 142 00:10:11,767 --> 00:10:14,800 Armie didn't like speaking about his family or his history. 143 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,743 Having lived in Hollywood for twenty years, 144 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:34,866 you see the name Hammer on museums and on parks. 145 00:10:34,867 --> 00:10:38,265 So I knew their family had a lot of money and power. 146 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:41,366 My name is Seth Abramovitch, and I'm a journalist. 147 00:10:41,367 --> 00:10:43,199 I write for the Hollywood Reporter. 148 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,165 When I interviewed Armie, he was in awards contention for Call Me By Your Name, 149 00:10:47,166 --> 00:10:49,900 and was on that teetering cusp 150 00:10:49,967 --> 00:10:53,600 of establishing himself as a force to be contended with within Hollywood. 151 00:10:57,767 --> 00:11:02,500 We started at Holmby Park in Westwood, at his request. 152 00:11:02,567 --> 00:11:05,600 There's a big sign that says, "The Armand Hammer Golf Course." 153 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:09,766 I was like, "Look, it's your great grandfather's name." 154 00:11:09,767 --> 00:11:13,165 Dr. Armand Hammer has parlayed outstanding private success 155 00:11:13,166 --> 00:11:17,265 into public power as a Chairman and CEO of Occidental Petroleum, 156 00:11:17,266 --> 00:11:20,866 a diversified $16 billion company. 157 00:11:20,867 --> 00:11:24,367 Dr. Armand Hammer is one of the world's leading capitalists. 158 00:11:30,767 --> 00:11:34,600 Armie's a very handsome actor who came out of privilege, 159 00:11:34,667 --> 00:11:37,366 and the history of his family is very interesting. 160 00:11:37,367 --> 00:11:39,100 He did not have a typical childhood. 161 00:11:39,166 --> 00:11:42,166 So right away I was intrigued by this person was. 162 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:47,999 Armie was born in Santa Monica, California, 163 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,800 and he said his father made an unusual decision, 164 00:11:50,867 --> 00:11:53,867 which was to move the family to the Cayman Islands. 165 00:11:55,867 --> 00:12:00,065 He and his young brother were brought there from a young age. 166 00:12:00,066 --> 00:12:02,766 I was curious why out of all the places in the world, the Cayman Islands. 167 00:12:02,767 --> 00:12:07,500 I associate the Cayman Islands with offshore bank accounts that sort of can't be touched. 168 00:12:07,567 --> 00:12:09,500 So I assumed it was something financial. 169 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:15,866 They returned to Los Angeles, I think he was in seventh grade, 170 00:12:15,867 --> 00:12:19,165 and Armie started pursuing this idea that he had 171 00:12:19,166 --> 00:12:21,566 when he was younger, which was that he wanted to be an actor. 172 00:12:26,567 --> 00:12:28,866 The Social Network absolutely launched his career. 173 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:32,000 He was starring opposite Justin Timberlake, Andrew Garfield. 174 00:12:32,066 --> 00:12:36,500 It was the movie of the year. That was what made him. 175 00:12:36,567 --> 00:12:39,065 I remember bumping into him, and all of a sudden 176 00:12:39,066 --> 00:12:41,900 there's Armie in a three-piece suit, 177 00:12:41,967 --> 00:12:44,866 looking amazing, looking like a movie star. 178 00:12:44,867 --> 00:12:46,566 It's official. I have arrived. 179 00:12:46,567 --> 00:12:48,200 And Elizabeth was with him. 180 00:12:48,266 --> 00:12:51,366 - I'm here with my beautiful wife. - Hi. 181 00:12:51,367 --> 00:12:55,266 The roles just kept coming where he was always playing the handsome man... 182 00:12:56,266 --> 00:12:58,466 but the problem was it was a wave 183 00:12:58,467 --> 00:13:00,600 of box office bombs after bombs. 184 00:13:02,967 --> 00:13:05,300 You know, these movies weren't hitting. 185 00:13:05,367 --> 00:13:10,200 What movie besides Social Network had really made money? 186 00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:11,766 Thankfully, Call Me By Your Name 187 00:13:11,767 --> 00:13:15,100 happened and got him buzzing again. 188 00:13:17,367 --> 00:13:20,200 There was this buzz everywhere you looked 189 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:22,566 in the run-up to this movie coming out. 190 00:13:22,567 --> 00:13:25,400 It just sounded very daring, very sexy. 191 00:13:25,467 --> 00:13:28,800 The two of them together being sexual on screen 192 00:13:28,867 --> 00:13:31,100 was going to make headlines no matter what. 193 00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:33,099 He already was taking a real risk. 194 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,900 Hollywood loves when an actor takes a risk like that, 195 00:13:35,967 --> 00:13:38,600 and so that buzz is really what pushed him onto our cover. 196 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:45,300 You were reading about him all the time. People cared about him more. 197 00:13:45,367 --> 00:13:47,966 He, of course, was doing massive press for the movie 198 00:13:47,967 --> 00:13:49,766 because he was on on Oscar campaign. 199 00:13:49,767 --> 00:13:52,766 Your fans want to hear from you. 200 00:13:52,767 --> 00:13:54,966 At the time, you could say Armie started 201 00:13:54,967 --> 00:13:59,100 cosplaying the life of kind of a perfect movie star, if you will. 202 00:14:00,567 --> 00:14:04,467 He seemed to be doing things the exact right way. 203 00:14:06,567 --> 00:14:09,566 He had the picture perfect marriage he had two children. 204 00:14:09,567 --> 00:14:14,300 Everything he described was very much lovey dovey fairy tale. 205 00:14:14,367 --> 00:14:20,566 He came from this family of wealth and privilege, and his career was swimming. 206 00:14:20,567 --> 00:14:24,000 Generally, you did not get the whiff of scandal around him. 207 00:14:25,867 --> 00:14:29,466 There was one thing that repeatedly came up 208 00:14:29,467 --> 00:14:32,466 when I talked to people and told them I was profiling him, 209 00:14:32,467 --> 00:14:39,600 and it was about, that he had a sort of edgy interest in BDSM sex. 210 00:14:39,667 --> 00:14:43,366 I did bring it up, and he shut me down pretty decisively. 211 00:14:43,367 --> 00:14:46,867 He said he has less of a comment than even if he had no comment. 212 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:53,000 Julia... 213 00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:56,466 are you okay to bring up your phone 214 00:14:56,467 --> 00:14:59,000 - so we can talk about some of those examples? - Yeah. 215 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:12,367 I haven't really digested this one. 216 00:15:14,467 --> 00:15:16,200 He says... 217 00:15:16,266 --> 00:15:20,700 "I have a fantasy about having someone prove their love and devotion 218 00:15:20,767 --> 00:15:25,866 and tying them up in a public place at night and making their body free use 219 00:15:25,867 --> 00:15:28,567 and seeing if they will fuck strangers for me." 220 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,366 When I first saw that Armie Hammer was following me, 221 00:15:38,367 --> 00:15:40,600 it was about a week before quarantine, 222 00:15:40,667 --> 00:15:44,500 and I looked up his Instagram, and I said, 223 00:15:44,567 --> 00:15:46,866 "Oh, it's the guy from The Social Network." 224 00:15:46,867 --> 00:15:51,466 Like, you know, he's a big movie star, he was just in Call Me By Your Name. 225 00:15:51,467 --> 00:15:56,165 I opened up my messages with the intention of saying, you know, 226 00:15:56,166 --> 00:15:58,366 "Hey, thanks for the follow." Or something like that. 227 00:15:58,367 --> 00:16:02,166 And I had seen that he had already messaged me in 2017. 228 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:05,000 And it was this long message. 229 00:16:09,300 --> 00:16:12,667 He was inquiring about a series of photographs of me. 230 00:16:15,967 --> 00:16:20,266 And when I reached out back to him, almost exactly three years later... 231 00:16:21,667 --> 00:16:23,667 he got back to me within an hour, 232 00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:26,100 and then we just started talking. 233 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:29,100 My name is Julia Morrison. 234 00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:35,467 I am a artist and writer, uh, based in New York and Los Angeles. 235 00:16:36,767 --> 00:16:40,000 That series of artworks is titled For Arabella, 236 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:42,366 by an artist named Sarah Bahbah. 237 00:16:42,367 --> 00:16:47,566 They are about a toxic relationship and breaking free from that. 238 00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:50,466 You have, you know, very existentialist sorts 239 00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:53,966 of captions with beautiful girls. 240 00:16:53,967 --> 00:16:56,666 A lot of them are quite provocative. 241 00:16:56,667 --> 00:17:01,866 I did ash him which artworks of that series he was most drawn in by. 242 00:17:01,867 --> 00:17:04,866 He said he liked that photo of me being choked. 243 00:17:04,867 --> 00:17:07,566 He started saying things like, "God, you're so perfect. 244 00:17:07,567 --> 00:17:09,332 It's like you were made for me." 245 00:17:09,333 --> 00:17:12,667 Which is ironic because, you know, he just completely missed the message. 246 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:18,566 Being a young woman in this industry 247 00:17:18,567 --> 00:17:23,165 where you're modeling, acting, making art, 248 00:17:23,166 --> 00:17:26,165 people will shower you with compliments, and you're like, 249 00:17:26,166 --> 00:17:28,165 "Oh, yeah. Well, my shit's tight." You know? 250 00:17:28,166 --> 00:17:29,999 "Like, why wouldn't they be obsessed with me?" 251 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,966 So, like, I mean, I don't want to sound, like, totally full of myself, 252 00:17:33,967 --> 00:17:36,967 but, no, I was not fully alarmed at first. I was more intrigued. 253 00:17:38,667 --> 00:17:41,366 He invited me to a play really early on. 254 00:17:41,367 --> 00:17:44,466 I mean, within a few hours, really, of our conversation was, 255 00:17:44,467 --> 00:17:47,099 you know, "Oh, are you in New York? 256 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,766 I'm working on a play here. Do you want to come?" 257 00:17:49,767 --> 00:17:55,367 And I was interested in going, and then lockdown happened. 258 00:17:57,100 --> 00:18:00,367 Shortly after that, things became sexual in conversation. 259 00:18:04,767 --> 00:18:08,666 It didn't really seem that unnatural at first for me 260 00:18:08,667 --> 00:18:12,566 because of the context of the times that we were going through in that moment. 261 00:18:12,567 --> 00:18:15,866 You know, my friends were telling me about Zoom dates 262 00:18:15,867 --> 00:18:20,566 and phone sex with so and so from, you know, Hinge or Tinder, 263 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:23,566 and I'm, you know, speaking with Armie Hammer 264 00:18:23,567 --> 00:18:25,967 like this in my Instagram DM's. 265 00:18:29,767 --> 00:18:33,165 Once the sexual nature of the DM's started, 266 00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:36,366 it was all that he ever wanted to talk about. 267 00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:40,466 He says to me, "Fine, let's be open and honest. 268 00:18:40,467 --> 00:18:43,065 "I've wanted to tie you up since I saw those god damn pictures 269 00:18:43,066 --> 00:18:44,367 and messaged you about it." 270 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:48,200 "Shibari is how it's spelled. 271 00:18:49,467 --> 00:18:51,500 It's the Japanese art of rope bondage 272 00:18:51,567 --> 00:18:54,266 with its cousin Kinbaku." For total restraint. 273 00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:10,966 And then he was saying to me about how 274 00:19:10,967 --> 00:19:13,900 if I were to submit to him, um, 275 00:19:13,967 --> 00:19:18,766 at the level of, uh, where he could, you know, 276 00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:23,200 call me and say one word and get me to come on demand, 277 00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:25,866 um, like Pavlovian dog style. 278 00:19:25,867 --> 00:19:29,600 Like, kind of getting you into this, like, submissive space 279 00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:34,966 where, like, you know, he's, you know, the dominant. 280 00:19:34,967 --> 00:19:38,400 These are messages that are being sent literally within seconds of each other. 281 00:19:38,467 --> 00:19:41,100 You know, very heavy and very frequent. 282 00:19:42,367 --> 00:19:45,265 "Let me take care of everything?" 283 00:19:45,266 --> 00:19:49,766 "You don't think or worry about anything except being a good little pet. 284 00:19:49,767 --> 00:19:52,000 My own personal little slave." 285 00:19:54,567 --> 00:19:58,100 "In return you will be worshipped, fed, and fucked." 286 00:19:59,767 --> 00:20:01,367 I was like, like. 287 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,800 But those little hearts just means 288 00:20:04,867 --> 00:20:07,265 that you're engaged or that you even received it. 289 00:20:07,266 --> 00:20:09,966 That's totally different than actually being, like, 290 00:20:09,967 --> 00:20:12,600 in a intimate space with someone. 291 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,566 All of that very forward talk was just kind of, like, 292 00:20:17,567 --> 00:20:20,366 back and forth like that for six months. 293 00:20:20,367 --> 00:20:24,766 But I did google and see that he had, you know, had a family, 294 00:20:24,767 --> 00:20:28,766 and so I figured a man who's married 295 00:20:28,767 --> 00:20:33,767 who is doing that with me, I'm not naive enough to think that I'm the only one. 296 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:45,766 For July 4th, he tells me he was doing this road trip. 297 00:20:45,767 --> 00:20:49,900 He was going Miami to LA, and he's gonna cross through Texas. 298 00:20:49,967 --> 00:20:53,766 And I have had plans to go into the Hamptons with some friends. 299 00:20:53,767 --> 00:20:57,466 It was already set, and he almost got upset with me, 300 00:20:57,467 --> 00:21:01,767 that I was gonna be gone when he was driving through. 301 00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:04,599 Somebody had my phone, they're like, 302 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,700 "Somebody named Armie has called you like 22 times." 303 00:21:11,567 --> 00:21:15,700 He sends me a picture when I'm in the Hamptons of my building in Dallas. 304 00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:32,165 At this point, we've never spent time together. 305 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:35,366 So it was weird. 306 00:21:35,367 --> 00:21:40,567 I remember being like, "Are we flirting or is this scary?" 307 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,466 I get back from New York, and he left me this note. 308 00:22:00,467 --> 00:22:03,999 "Oh, this will be a cute note." So I open the envelope, 309 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,567 and it just says, "I'm going to bite the fuck out of you." 310 00:22:10,767 --> 00:22:12,700 And then he autographed this note. 311 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,400 I didn't know how to feel about the note, you know? 312 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:19,767 It was, like... 313 00:22:20,767 --> 00:22:22,666 he talks so sweetly sometimes on the phone, 314 00:22:22,667 --> 00:22:25,200 just, like, compliments and compliments, 315 00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:29,400 then you get a note that says, "I'm going to bite the fuck out of you." 316 00:22:29,467 --> 00:22:33,566 As crazy as that sounds, I took it metaphorically, not literally. 317 00:22:33,567 --> 00:22:38,666 I thought he just wanted the intimacy, the closeness, wanted us to be together. 318 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:43,500 So I chose to look at it as more flattering than concerning. 319 00:22:43,567 --> 00:22:46,766 When I told my friends about us talking, I left that part out. 320 00:22:46,767 --> 00:22:48,266 I think that says a lot. 321 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,666 Elizabeth Chambers and her actor husband, 322 00:22:54,667 --> 00:22:56,866 Armie Hammer, split. 323 00:22:56,867 --> 00:23:00,266 On Friday, the movie star shared the news in an Instagram post. 324 00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:03,900 Quote, "It has been an incredible journey, 325 00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:09,165 but together, we've decided to turn the page and move on from our marriage." 326 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:12,165 They released a joint statement, interestingly enough, 327 00:23:12,166 --> 00:23:14,366 so, you know, they were gonna be super supportive of each other. 328 00:23:14,367 --> 00:23:18,300 "This was an amicable split. We've grown apart. We've done everything." 329 00:23:18,367 --> 00:23:21,600 You know, there's this thing of, like, if you get married young, 330 00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:26,100 if you have kids young, eventually you're gonna have some sort of midlife crisis 331 00:23:26,166 --> 00:23:29,000 or something that you're gonna explore all of these darker sides. 332 00:23:29,066 --> 00:23:31,367 Or was that Armie all along? 333 00:23:38,266 --> 00:23:39,543 We are number one for departure. 334 00:23:39,567 --> 00:23:41,866 Please prepare the captains. 335 00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:45,000 I was coming to LA. I was coming to see a friend, 336 00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:47,400 and after just talking constantly, 337 00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:49,667 Armie and I were both, like, okay, we have to meet. 338 00:23:50,667 --> 00:23:52,566 And this is a new experience to me. 339 00:23:52,567 --> 00:23:54,127 I've never been with somebody like this. 340 00:24:06,266 --> 00:24:10,200 He's, like, we're going on an adventure to the desert. 341 00:24:11,567 --> 00:24:13,366 This is flirty! 342 00:24:13,367 --> 00:24:18,100 Fun, different, but bizarre, risky. I've never met this man. 343 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:20,967 So I'm freaking out. 344 00:24:26,367 --> 00:24:30,967 I'm so anxious. I didn't know what was gonna happen. 345 00:24:35,066 --> 00:24:37,700 When I got to LA, 346 00:24:37,767 --> 00:24:41,866 the plan was, Armie was gonna pick me up after I had dinner with my friends. 347 00:24:41,867 --> 00:24:44,265 I was very nervous, and so was he. 348 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:47,767 I mean, he was texting me, like, "I can't believe this. This... I'm so nervous." 349 00:24:52,166 --> 00:24:57,866 He pulls his truck up, and I had my dog, and I had a little suitcase. 350 00:24:57,867 --> 00:25:00,566 We saw each other and we, like, kissed on the lips immediately. 351 00:25:00,567 --> 00:25:02,466 And I was, like, I think we were both, like, whoop? 352 00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:05,600 What? Like... It just felt natural. 353 00:25:05,667 --> 00:25:09,300 I got in the car, and then we were, like, off to the desert. 354 00:25:16,467 --> 00:25:18,400 It was very surreal. 355 00:25:18,467 --> 00:25:21,366 I had spent, like, the last month talking to this person. 356 00:25:21,367 --> 00:25:24,800 Five hours a day, and then you're spending time with each other. 357 00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:28,667 We spent every day together for the next three weeks. 358 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:35,265 We spent a lotta time in Twentynine Palms. 359 00:25:35,266 --> 00:25:39,900 Armie's friend owns a motel that he's renovating. 360 00:25:41,266 --> 00:25:42,667 We painted it. 361 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:49,367 I have a picture of my little dog under this, like, motel sign. 362 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,966 Right here, this is where we would have, like, you know, 363 00:25:57,967 --> 00:26:00,867 like, dinners right here on this long table. 364 00:26:01,867 --> 00:26:03,367 Candlelit dinners. 365 00:26:04,667 --> 00:26:06,566 We didn't leave each other's side. 366 00:26:06,567 --> 00:26:11,265 If my chair was a foot away from his, he's pulling my chair over. 367 00:26:11,266 --> 00:26:14,165 He always, like, his hand's on my leg. 368 00:26:14,166 --> 00:26:18,265 It's like, even the first day that we met, his hand was always just, like, on my knee. 369 00:26:18,266 --> 00:26:20,100 Like, always needed to be touching me, 370 00:26:20,166 --> 00:26:23,867 showing me affection, making me feel really comfortable, and really safe. 371 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,165 It was so hot, so I'd just be, like, 372 00:26:27,166 --> 00:26:30,300 in a bikini all day, like, on the back of his scooter. 373 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:40,265 At night, we would go by the pool in the back of the motel, 374 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:45,666 and, like, put a projector out and a screen and then just, like, watch E.T. 375 00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:48,467 I just felt like, I don't know, it felt like another world. 376 00:26:49,166 --> 00:26:50,667 It felt magical. 377 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,466 We really connected just as two people, 378 00:27:00,467 --> 00:27:06,766 not a famous actor and me, who's a very private person. 379 00:27:06,767 --> 00:27:08,266 I'm just a business owner in Dallas. 380 00:27:10,467 --> 00:27:12,065 It's so not me to drop everything 381 00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:14,567 and leave for a man, that's... I've never been like that. 382 00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:18,165 I think I was starting to fall for him, for sure. 383 00:27:18,166 --> 00:27:22,000 I mean, I wouldn't have said, "I love you," but it was... It was heading towards that. 384 00:27:22,767 --> 00:27:24,999 I took a picture right there. 385 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,366 Just a pose to remember how happy I am for a second. 386 00:27:27,367 --> 00:27:31,366 I truly was so fuckin' happy. 387 00:27:31,367 --> 00:27:33,600 I was like, I can't believe this is happening to me. 388 00:27:38,667 --> 00:27:44,200 But there were times that something didn't feel right. 389 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200 This is the first time at this tractor supply 390 00:27:52,266 --> 00:27:54,100 that he, like, looked for those ropes. 391 00:27:57,867 --> 00:28:01,966 He would take me in the rope section. 392 00:28:01,967 --> 00:28:05,265 They were completely out of rope and I was just, like, thankful, you know? 393 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:07,900 Or I'm just, like, "Okay, let's go!" 394 00:28:07,967 --> 00:28:11,700 I think that's when he sensed that that was out of my comfort zone, 395 00:28:11,767 --> 00:28:14,100 so he kind of softened. 396 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:21,600 One night, he was, like, "Watch this movie, it's called The Secretary." 397 00:28:21,667 --> 00:28:23,800 It's one of his favorite movies. 398 00:28:23,867 --> 00:28:27,100 Maggie Gyllenhaal is the assistant to this lawyer 399 00:28:27,166 --> 00:28:28,600 What is wrong with you? That... 400 00:28:28,667 --> 00:28:31,867 He was training her to be very submissive. 401 00:28:34,567 --> 00:28:36,199 She acts as the desk, 402 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,766 or she'll do the stapler with her chin, or do everything for him, 403 00:28:41,767 --> 00:28:46,099 and just, like, that's what he wants from me? 404 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:53,000 And there was one thing that happened to me, 405 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,400 I don't even like to think about it. 406 00:28:58,467 --> 00:29:03,200 The situation that happened was something... I didn't... 407 00:29:04,767 --> 00:29:09,800 I think it's something you speak about before it's done, 408 00:29:10,667 --> 00:29:14,200 and we didn't speak about this. 409 00:29:14,266 --> 00:29:18,466 I... It was something that has never been done to me, 410 00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:22,500 and it is something that is very degrading, 411 00:29:22,567 --> 00:29:24,400 very belittling, and I just don't... 412 00:29:26,867 --> 00:29:29,100 I don't like to... I don't wanna put it out there. 413 00:29:35,867 --> 00:29:38,467 Then I'm, like, holy shit! I've gotta get back to my life, 414 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:40,400 so I go home. 415 00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:49,166 I broke down in the shower... 416 00:29:50,567 --> 00:29:51,600 crying in the shower. 417 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,800 And I had this wave of anxiety, 418 00:29:56,867 --> 00:29:58,866 it's like my body was responding, 419 00:29:58,867 --> 00:30:00,767 trying to be like, hey, something's not right. 420 00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:04,466 But I... I put it out of my mind, 421 00:30:04,467 --> 00:30:08,100 because when we talk, it's like, "I miss you so much, I miss you so much," 422 00:30:08,166 --> 00:30:10,265 "You should move to LA, be my girlfriend." 423 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:12,866 He needed me, and it felt nice, 424 00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:15,867 and so we saw each other about a week later. 425 00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:21,866 He's, like, giving me quality time, and constant communication, 426 00:30:21,867 --> 00:30:25,700 and PDA, you just feel so loved. 427 00:30:28,367 --> 00:30:30,366 When we were together, it felt good, but when we were apart, 428 00:30:30,367 --> 00:30:33,866 I had this, just, like, pit in my stomach. 429 00:30:33,867 --> 00:30:36,265 We didn't have the conversation where we're exclusive, 430 00:30:36,266 --> 00:30:39,500 but we have all these talks where I'm not supposed to be with anybody, 431 00:30:39,567 --> 00:30:40,999 so it's just him. 432 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,432 He wants complete control of me, 433 00:30:42,433 --> 00:30:46,300 and I didn't have the mental capacity to think about another soul. 434 00:30:46,367 --> 00:30:50,165 Because, you know, usually he's sending me a thousand texts and a hundred calls. 435 00:30:50,166 --> 00:30:55,165 I wasn't going on dates, and that's how he wanted it. 436 00:30:55,166 --> 00:30:58,367 Actress Rumer Willis was spotted on a date with Armie Hammer. 437 00:30:59,567 --> 00:31:02,200 The couple were photographed walking around LA. 438 00:31:02,266 --> 00:31:06,200 According to an insider, he's not looking for a relationship, 439 00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:09,200 and they denied claims that he is currently dating anyone. 440 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,000 The thing with Rumer happened and... 441 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,667 he said it... 442 00:31:20,467 --> 00:31:21,666 didn't mean anything. 443 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:24,566 But it's like, I remember seeing 444 00:31:24,567 --> 00:31:29,866 the way his hand was around her, 445 00:31:29,867 --> 00:31:32,866 'cause he's very aggressive with his hands. 446 00:31:32,867 --> 00:31:37,099 He always wanted to be, like, hand on me, hand on my arm, hugging me, like, always... 447 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,540 But, like, the way he was touching her, I was just, like... 448 00:31:39,567 --> 00:31:41,366 Made me feel, like, even smaller. 449 00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:47,567 And I felt betrayed, so I tried to end it. 450 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,767 I was supposed to come back to LA in September. 451 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,866 By this time he had moved into this teeny-tiny pool house. 452 00:32:03,867 --> 00:32:08,265 So I go to the teeny-tiny pool house and I'm like, I'm gonna end it. 453 00:32:08,266 --> 00:32:09,633 When we were at that pool house, 454 00:32:09,634 --> 00:32:12,074 and I was, like, "You're hurting me, I can't do this anymore." 455 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,566 He... And he said, "No, you're... You're gonna have to block me, 456 00:32:16,567 --> 00:32:18,207 you're gonna have to do all these things." 457 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,000 I leave, we're both crying. 458 00:32:44,166 --> 00:32:47,400 The next day, I go to my friend's in Beverly Hills, 459 00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:52,165 and we were on a walk and he showed up on his scooter, 460 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,466 where we were walking, he had my location on his phone. 461 00:32:55,467 --> 00:33:00,065 And... And I fell right back into it. 462 00:33:00,066 --> 00:33:01,106 I thought it was romantic. 463 00:33:01,867 --> 00:33:03,999 I thought this... He's fighting for me. 464 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,900 And instead of going back to Dallas, we went on another road trip. 465 00:33:12,667 --> 00:33:14,866 I think when you really care for somebody, 466 00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:19,400 it's kind a crazy what your mind is willing to look past or justify. 467 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:26,000 But then... There, you know, there's these things that keep happening that... 468 00:33:26,066 --> 00:33:31,000 Just... I would have, like, hand marks, like, that would stay on my body. 469 00:33:33,567 --> 00:33:35,866 I think Armie took that picture. 470 00:33:35,867 --> 00:33:37,567 He bites really hard... 471 00:33:38,867 --> 00:33:41,900 and he tells you to wear them like a badge of honor. 472 00:33:41,967 --> 00:33:45,200 Almost like he convinced me that I'm lucky to have it. 473 00:33:45,266 --> 00:33:49,666 It's like... As fucked up as that sounds, 474 00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:52,700 at that time, I was interpreting that as love. 475 00:33:52,767 --> 00:33:55,300 Like, looking at it now makes me sick. 476 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:59,266 And he pushes your boundaries a little bit at a time. 477 00:34:00,767 --> 00:34:03,200 And then the tone of the next trip 478 00:34:03,266 --> 00:34:06,367 just felt different from the very beginning. 479 00:34:15,166 --> 00:34:20,000 This time when he picked me up, I saw a brown bag and it had ropes in it. 480 00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:29,767 We drove through Sedona. 481 00:34:31,767 --> 00:34:32,800 We get to this hotel. 482 00:34:34,967 --> 00:34:37,165 We have dinner. 483 00:34:37,166 --> 00:34:42,165 There's this gin, vermouth, like, it's... He orders four a these, 484 00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:44,266 I've had one margarita. 485 00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:48,467 And it's like, we're not getting along. 486 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,165 He's in a weird mood. 487 00:34:51,166 --> 00:34:55,766 Nothing about the moment felt good. And then he mentions the ropes. 488 00:34:55,767 --> 00:34:57,327 I was... My heart dropped in my stomach. 489 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,566 He told me he's only ever tied up mannequins, never people. 490 00:35:05,567 --> 00:35:09,667 He wants to share this with me. His fantasy, this experience. 491 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,400 Something new that he's never tried with anybody. 492 00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,366 So then I was, like, "I'm really not in the mood, I don't feel good. 493 00:35:21,367 --> 00:35:22,600 I don't feel well." 494 00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:26,100 He was just like... Acted mad, like, would look away, like, 495 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:28,567 I... I just was like, how do I get outta this? 496 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,166 And then that night, he was drunk, I was not, 497 00:35:44,667 --> 00:35:49,866 and... I didn't say, "No." 498 00:35:49,867 --> 00:35:54,166 Um, I said, "I didn't feel good," I... I said everything except, "No." 499 00:35:59,166 --> 00:36:04,567 So he puts on this creepy playlist, 500 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:06,300 and... 501 00:36:10,567 --> 00:36:11,567 Just like... 502 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,800 Like... 503 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,065 It's... The ropes were around your neck, 504 00:36:19,066 --> 00:36:21,866 your wrists, your ankles, behind your back. 505 00:36:21,867 --> 00:36:22,867 It's like... 506 00:36:24,567 --> 00:36:28,000 It was... I mean, I had bruises, I had... I hated it. 507 00:36:28,066 --> 00:36:32,766 It's like, I understand that if this is, like, your fantasy, 508 00:36:32,767 --> 00:36:35,265 or this is your thing... 509 00:36:35,266 --> 00:36:39,600 more power to you, but this was not... I didn't like it, and it's like... 510 00:36:40,567 --> 00:36:42,667 it didn't feel safe, or like... 511 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:48,366 I didn't feel, like, loved, or it was just horrible. 512 00:36:48,367 --> 00:36:51,099 And you're like, completely immobilized. 513 00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:54,967 And it's like, there's something about trauma... 514 00:36:56,567 --> 00:36:59,165 while you're immobilized and can't move. 515 00:36:59,166 --> 00:37:02,265 There's that fight or flight, you can't do either, you're just stuck there. 516 00:37:02,266 --> 00:37:05,867 And I'm just closing my eyes until it ended and... 517 00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:10,867 and we just... He just went to sleep like it was nothing. 518 00:37:11,867 --> 00:37:13,400 Can we take a break? 519 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:23,266 I almost didn't wanna make it real by writing it down, but... 520 00:37:25,033 --> 00:37:28,767 After that night, this is what I took away from it. 521 00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:34,600 "Armie wanted total control of me and absolute compliance, 522 00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:38,367 destroying any sense of bodily autonomy. 523 00:37:39,767 --> 00:37:41,500 His ultimate fantasy." 524 00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:49,466 After that scenario in Sedona, I really started to, kind of, unravel. 525 00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:51,466 It didn't sit well with me, 526 00:37:51,467 --> 00:37:55,500 but then it's followed up with him pulling me even closer. 527 00:37:55,567 --> 00:37:57,327 And being, like, "I want you to meet my mom," 528 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,666 which is huge to me. 529 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:06,466 I think that's a really big deal, like, it felt like, okay... 530 00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:10,367 You know, I'm just clinging to, like, little things to make this okay. 531 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:17,466 The situation with the ropes was three days before I met his mom. 532 00:38:17,467 --> 00:38:20,667 But at that point, it was kind of like a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. 533 00:38:20,734 --> 00:38:23,000 There was just, like... Too much had happened. 534 00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:28,300 We broke up two days after meeting his mom. 535 00:38:37,166 --> 00:38:40,200 I knew something about him would come up in the future, 536 00:38:40,266 --> 00:38:42,065 because I know how careless he is. 537 00:38:42,066 --> 00:38:47,166 I know how he texts, and he just leaves trails of all his madness everywhere. 538 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:13,866 I woke up on the second week of January. 539 00:39:13,867 --> 00:39:16,065 I got my coffee, I sat down. 540 00:39:16,066 --> 00:39:18,166 I started opening up Twitter and combing through. 541 00:39:19,367 --> 00:39:23,467 My name is Candice Cronkhite and my IG handle is BBFBravo. 542 00:39:24,767 --> 00:39:27,265 I've always been interested in anything with pop culture. 543 00:39:27,266 --> 00:39:29,032 I really liked, you know, 544 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,366 deep diving people's backgrounds and why are they the way that they are, 545 00:39:31,367 --> 00:39:35,367 and curating things that the public may not know about a person. 546 00:39:36,567 --> 00:39:40,933 I passed by a screenshot of a DM with the headline, 547 00:39:40,934 --> 00:39:44,367 "Armie Hammer's Ex-Girlfriend Is Leaking His DM's." 548 00:39:51,066 --> 00:39:53,933 All of these screen grabs that were pulled on Twitter 549 00:39:53,934 --> 00:39:58,300 were coming from a anonymous account called houseofeffie. 550 00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:04,600 When I opened up that first text, it was shocking. 551 00:40:16,567 --> 00:40:21,165 The content that you're reading and you're like, okay, this is a little kinky, 552 00:40:21,166 --> 00:40:24,166 to progressively getting darker and darker. 553 00:40:25,767 --> 00:40:28,734 Like, "this is shocking" to "this is disturbing." 554 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:39,000 After a couple a text messages, I would see this one posted by houseofeffie. 555 00:40:58,767 --> 00:41:04,500 You know that there are some kinky things, or things that you are unfamiliar with, 556 00:41:04,567 --> 00:41:09,265 but the idea that somebody gets off on raping somebody, 557 00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:12,766 and that is what they're pretending to do, 558 00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:18,867 it's... It's... I... I can't... It's just really... Sick. 559 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,100 And so I couldn't stop. 560 00:41:26,166 --> 00:41:30,165 I had to do a story on it, because I could tell that this was gonna be big. 561 00:41:30,166 --> 00:41:33,466 Armie Hammer has been in hot water over leaked texts. 562 00:41:33,467 --> 00:41:36,500 Because of the community guidelines, I'm not going to say what that's about, 563 00:41:36,567 --> 00:41:39,367 but you could head over to my IG highlights to see for yourself. 564 00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:43,566 Sadly, I saw people laugh it off 565 00:41:43,567 --> 00:41:45,500 and not believe houseofeffie 566 00:41:45,567 --> 00:41:47,500 and give it the attention it deserves. 567 00:41:58,567 --> 00:42:02,566 In January, I see a message from the DeuxMoi account, 568 00:42:02,567 --> 00:42:04,500 a gossip account. 569 00:42:04,567 --> 00:42:07,007 She knew that Armie and I had been together in a relationship, 570 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,934 because my name had already been leaked... 571 00:42:12,166 --> 00:42:14,734 and so, DeuxMoi would talk about it. 572 00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:20,200 The DeuxMoi account was posting these screenshots 573 00:42:20,266 --> 00:42:22,766 from an account called houseofeffie, 574 00:42:22,767 --> 00:42:26,266 and they were really sexually violent messages. 575 00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:29,367 So, she messaged me... 576 00:42:31,066 --> 00:42:32,100 "Is this true?" 577 00:42:33,734 --> 00:42:35,366 I know how this man speaks. 578 00:42:35,367 --> 00:42:38,300 I could write a text for him, I've seen them a million times. 579 00:42:38,367 --> 00:42:42,266 I know the language he uses, punctuation he uses. 580 00:42:44,734 --> 00:42:46,266 He always used the word kitten. 581 00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:49,767 He'd be like, "hi, my little kitten." 582 00:42:50,667 --> 00:42:53,933 That was very common. 583 00:42:53,934 --> 00:42:56,600 The messages that House of Effie was showing, 584 00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:00,999 he said this exact same word to me. 585 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,160 You know, I was like, "that's 100% true, that's Armie." 586 00:43:13,767 --> 00:43:15,099 At that point, 587 00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:19,367 I just wanted to validate what houseofeffie was saying. 588 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,266 The next morning, my life just blew up. 589 00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:42,366 Armie Hammer's ex-girlfriend, Courtney Vucekovich... 590 00:43:42,367 --> 00:43:43,833 Courtney Vucekovich has come forward 591 00:43:43,834 --> 00:43:46,065 with claims against her ex, Armie Hammer... 592 00:43:46,066 --> 00:43:48,366 Once Courtney was willing to go on the record, 593 00:43:48,367 --> 00:43:50,933 this story blew wide open. 594 00:43:50,934 --> 00:43:55,066 It was about abuse and power and gaslighting. 595 00:43:56,367 --> 00:43:59,300 He said things like he wanted to barbecue and eat her. 596 00:44:01,367 --> 00:44:03,265 What is happening with Armie Hammer? 597 00:44:03,266 --> 00:44:06,200 Disturbing and racy messages allegedly sent to women 598 00:44:06,266 --> 00:44:10,032 by the actor Armie Hammer are trending on Twitter. 599 00:44:10,033 --> 00:44:13,667 Shocking DMs allegedly from Armie Hammer's public accounts 600 00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:16,866 are going viral on social media. 601 00:44:16,867 --> 00:44:20,100 His sexually graphic texts and DMs are dominating. 602 00:44:20,166 --> 00:44:24,165 BDSM and even cannibalism began trending. 603 00:44:24,166 --> 00:44:26,366 I think this specific one that she posted 604 00:44:26,367 --> 00:44:28,667 really shocked people. 605 00:44:31,266 --> 00:44:33,567 I mean, he said, "I'm 100% a cannibal." 606 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,032 He's, like, "fuck, it feels weird even saying that," 607 00:44:38,033 --> 00:44:40,467 and I can picture him saying that so vividly. 608 00:44:44,734 --> 00:44:48,166 And then he said that he shot a deer and then ate its heart. 609 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,099 There's this whole, then, darker underbelly that just starts 610 00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:02,966 getting you sicker and sicker. 611 00:45:02,967 --> 00:45:06,265 He's talking about wanting to eat flesh. 612 00:45:06,266 --> 00:45:09,266 Really, really, really horrific things and imagery. 613 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,300 Where does this end? Where does this go? 614 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,733 At this point people were just running with the cannibalism. 615 00:45:29,567 --> 00:45:33,099 Nobody cared about anything except the word cannibal. 616 00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:36,766 Pretending like it was all a joke didn't sit well with me 617 00:45:36,767 --> 00:45:38,467 because it wasn't a joke. 618 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,466 Now it's entertainment. 619 00:45:43,467 --> 00:45:46,767 Now we're, like, we're leaned in 620 00:45:46,834 --> 00:45:49,366 waiting to see how dark this is. 621 00:45:49,367 --> 00:45:51,766 While the DMs remain unverified, 622 00:45:51,767 --> 00:45:54,099 the stories have kept coming in. 623 00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,600 Once Courtney came forward, other women started coming forward. 624 00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:02,866 One of them was the writer, Jessica. 625 00:46:02,867 --> 00:46:06,265 She had said, "if anyone's questioning whether these DMs are real, 626 00:46:06,266 --> 00:46:07,666 I'm here to tell you that they are." 627 00:46:10,266 --> 00:46:12,666 Paige Lorenze was another woman involved 628 00:46:12,667 --> 00:46:14,165 with Armie Hammer. 629 00:46:14,166 --> 00:46:18,500 She told her whole story and she did not hold back. 630 00:46:18,567 --> 00:46:20,967 He kind of just took me in under his wing and he really 631 00:46:21,967 --> 00:46:23,767 was so all-consuming, 632 00:46:23,834 --> 00:46:26,366 and he made me feel like it was a safe space, 633 00:46:26,367 --> 00:46:27,566 made me feel like this was normal, 634 00:46:27,567 --> 00:46:30,366 he made me feel like this was gonna be fun and sexy, 635 00:46:30,367 --> 00:46:34,165 but I think he used BDSM as, like, a smokescreen, 636 00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:37,366 ultimately, to hurt women and inflict pain on women, 637 00:46:37,367 --> 00:46:38,734 which is the scariest part. 638 00:46:40,367 --> 00:46:43,999 Hollywood is a very business-oriented industry, 639 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,933 and now after Me Too happened and Time's Up, 640 00:46:47,934 --> 00:46:50,466 nobody is taking a chance on anybody. 641 00:46:50,467 --> 00:46:51,966 The actor Armie Hammer 642 00:46:51,967 --> 00:46:54,733 has been dropped from the upcoming film Shotgun Wedding, 643 00:46:54,734 --> 00:46:57,400 which he was due to be starring in opposite Jennifer Lopez. 644 00:46:57,467 --> 00:46:59,099 Armie said in a statement, 645 00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,866 "in light of the vicious and spurious online attacks against me, 646 00:47:01,867 --> 00:47:04,265 I cannot in good conscience now leave my children 647 00:47:04,266 --> 00:47:06,165 for four months to shoot a film." 648 00:47:06,166 --> 00:47:10,566 As soon as allegations start to come out that seem to have substance, 649 00:47:10,567 --> 00:47:12,866 they're dropping you like a hot potato. 650 00:47:12,867 --> 00:47:16,867 WME immediately dropped Armie Hammer. 651 00:47:16,934 --> 00:47:19,933 Armie Hammer has been fighting for his career 652 00:47:19,934 --> 00:47:22,367 after being plagued by a social media scandal. 653 00:47:29,367 --> 00:47:31,032 It was always talking about how, 654 00:47:31,033 --> 00:47:33,367 "what is Armie going to do? He lost this movie deal." 655 00:47:35,166 --> 00:47:37,200 Nobody was talking about the victims. 656 00:47:37,266 --> 00:47:40,567 I just felt like I couldn't leave the story alone. 657 00:47:43,033 --> 00:47:45,265 I really wanted to figure out more about him. 658 00:47:45,266 --> 00:47:48,200 Wondering what different things has he dropped 659 00:47:48,266 --> 00:47:49,500 that we have all been missing. 660 00:47:51,667 --> 00:47:54,466 The first thing I saw was a interview, 661 00:47:54,467 --> 00:47:58,600 one where he was talking about tying a rope within 30 seconds... 662 00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:00,787 People get thrilled when you pull out rope at a party. 663 00:48:00,834 --> 00:48:01,834 Uh... 664 00:48:01,835 --> 00:48:04,566 and it was, like, "hmm, that's weird." 665 00:48:04,567 --> 00:48:07,265 You look through the Twitter, you look through Instagram, 666 00:48:07,266 --> 00:48:09,966 you look at who he's following on Instagram, 667 00:48:09,967 --> 00:48:11,766 He followed a lot of shibari accounts, 668 00:48:11,767 --> 00:48:15,065 which is a form of Japanese bondage. 669 00:48:15,066 --> 00:48:17,999 A lot of women in suggestive poses. 670 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,033 And then there was an article on Playboy. 671 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:26,466 Armie Hammer in Playboy said 672 00:48:26,467 --> 00:48:28,933 he likes rough sex, he likes to pull hair. 673 00:48:28,934 --> 00:48:32,099 Maybe a bit of choking, but he would never do it to his wife 674 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:33,600 because he respects her too much. 675 00:48:35,567 --> 00:48:38,466 I found DMs that were showing more texts 676 00:48:38,467 --> 00:48:41,100 and more and more and more content 677 00:48:41,166 --> 00:48:45,766 relating to him being involved in the BDSM world. 678 00:48:45,767 --> 00:48:48,200 At that point I was just confused about it 679 00:48:48,266 --> 00:48:49,386 beyond Fifty Shades of Grey. 680 00:48:51,266 --> 00:48:52,933 Soon enough, I found out that 681 00:48:52,934 --> 00:48:55,200 if you set these pre-determined boundaries 682 00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:57,300 and they're crossed over and over again, 683 00:48:57,367 --> 00:48:58,500 that is a problem. 684 00:49:07,667 --> 00:49:09,100 The more research that I've done, 685 00:49:09,166 --> 00:49:10,999 the more I found that these things that he did 686 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,265 are actually not BDSM, but he's calling them BDSM. 687 00:49:14,266 --> 00:49:17,866 But it's actually just unsafe, um, behavior 688 00:49:17,867 --> 00:49:20,100 that would, you know, normally be criminal. 689 00:49:22,367 --> 00:49:26,000 When I looked into it, you could clearly tell this was not BDSM. 690 00:49:26,867 --> 00:49:27,867 It was getting darker. 691 00:49:28,567 --> 00:49:30,266 This looked like abuse. 692 00:49:34,567 --> 00:49:38,767 And then Effie of Instagram account houseofeffie came forward. 693 00:49:38,834 --> 00:49:42,165 She had hired famed attorney, Gloria Allred, 694 00:49:42,166 --> 00:49:43,734 who's known for advocating for women. 695 00:49:44,667 --> 00:49:47,265 Effie is 24 years old, 696 00:49:47,266 --> 00:49:49,466 and she lives in Europe. 697 00:49:49,467 --> 00:49:54,265 She had a romantic and an intimate relationship with Armie Hammer 698 00:49:54,266 --> 00:49:59,165 on and off between 2016 to 2020. 699 00:49:59,166 --> 00:50:03,567 Effie issued a statement that was an absolute bombshell. 700 00:50:07,667 --> 00:50:10,132 I'm attorney Gloria Allred. 701 00:50:10,133 --> 00:50:13,366 I'm a women's rights attorney in Los Angeles. 702 00:50:13,367 --> 00:50:15,833 I'm a partner in a law firm. 703 00:50:15,834 --> 00:50:19,500 I deal with many victims of rape, sexual assault... 704 00:50:20,967 --> 00:50:22,133 and sexual harassment. 705 00:50:28,266 --> 00:50:30,600 I do represent Effie. 706 00:50:30,667 --> 00:50:34,132 Victims need to have support if they're going to... 707 00:50:34,133 --> 00:50:36,834 come forward against a rich, powerful, famous figure. 708 00:50:38,266 --> 00:50:39,834 They shouldn't have to do it alone. 709 00:50:41,266 --> 00:50:44,133 Doing it alone is dangerous, it's frightening. 710 00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:47,467 This is not for the faint of heart. 711 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,666 I met Armie Hammer on Facebook in 2016 712 00:50:55,667 --> 00:50:57,166 when I was 20 years old. 713 00:50:59,166 --> 00:51:01,466 The relationship progressed rapidly 714 00:51:01,467 --> 00:51:03,934 and the emotions from both sides became really intense. 715 00:51:05,467 --> 00:51:08,165 He would often test my devotion to him 716 00:51:08,166 --> 00:51:11,065 by removing and crossing my boundaries 717 00:51:11,066 --> 00:51:13,066 as he became increasingly more violent. 718 00:51:15,166 --> 00:51:19,100 He abused me mentally, emotionally and sexually. 719 00:51:25,367 --> 00:51:27,666 How can you see somebody... 720 00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:30,767 breaking down like that and not feel for it... 721 00:51:31,767 --> 00:51:34,567 and, oh, it was hard to watch. 722 00:51:39,834 --> 00:51:43,467 On April 24th, 2017, Armie Hammer... 723 00:51:45,667 --> 00:51:49,734 violently raped me for over four hours in Los Angeles... 724 00:51:51,367 --> 00:51:55,200 during which he repeatedly slapped my head against a wall 725 00:51:55,266 --> 00:51:56,266 bruising my face. 726 00:51:58,266 --> 00:51:59,766 During those four hours, 727 00:51:59,767 --> 00:52:02,400 I tried to get away, but he wouldn't let me. 728 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,099 The way that she was speaking through her story 729 00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:15,466 through tears, and her conviction about what she had been through, 730 00:52:15,467 --> 00:52:17,867 I just thought, you know, every woman thinks, 731 00:52:17,934 --> 00:52:19,500 "oh, God, that could have been me," 732 00:52:19,567 --> 00:52:22,265 you know, and it's been really close to being me, 733 00:52:22,266 --> 00:52:24,600 and in other situations, it has been me. 734 00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:27,500 So, I was really grateful, 735 00:52:27,567 --> 00:52:31,834 um, for what she had done in her bravery of coming forward. 736 00:52:33,834 --> 00:52:37,265 She came forward and told everything... 737 00:52:37,266 --> 00:52:39,867 He also committed other acts of violence against me 738 00:52:39,934 --> 00:52:41,367 to which I did not consent. 739 00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:53,366 And it launched a police investigation within the LAPD. 740 00:52:53,367 --> 00:52:57,032 The actor Armie Hammer has been confirmed as the suspect 741 00:52:57,033 --> 00:52:59,165 in an alleged sexual assault case 742 00:52:59,166 --> 00:53:01,265 by the Los Angeles Police Department. 743 00:53:01,266 --> 00:53:04,099 Right now, Armie's being represented by Andrew Brettler 744 00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,666 who's known for his defense of people accused 745 00:53:07,667 --> 00:53:09,933 of sexual abuse or sexual misconduct, 746 00:53:09,934 --> 00:53:13,265 and that seemed a very strategic move. 747 00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:16,366 And in a statement vehemently denied any wrongdoing 748 00:53:16,367 --> 00:53:17,467 on behalf of his client. 749 00:53:18,967 --> 00:53:21,566 I know his attorney well, 750 00:53:21,567 --> 00:53:23,367 we've had many cases... 751 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,466 against that firm, and I have said many years ago 752 00:53:28,467 --> 00:53:29,966 and it's still true today, 753 00:53:29,967 --> 00:53:32,600 that firm represents Hollywood bad boys... 754 00:53:34,033 --> 00:53:35,667 and I represent the women they hurt. 755 00:53:40,166 --> 00:53:43,133 Even in BDSM relationships, 756 00:53:44,033 --> 00:53:46,166 consent is still at the heart of it. 757 00:53:56,467 --> 00:54:00,367 It doesn't mean that anyone can do anything... 758 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,366 to anyone during a sexual relationship. 759 00:54:04,367 --> 00:54:07,200 If she withdraws her consent, 760 00:54:07,266 --> 00:54:09,767 and he continues, that's a crime. 761 00:54:10,867 --> 00:54:12,166 Simple as that. 762 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,567 Kinky is not against the law. 763 00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,367 Rape is. 764 00:54:23,667 --> 00:54:25,933 I do think a lot of women and men 765 00:54:25,934 --> 00:54:28,265 can relate to engaging with somebody 766 00:54:28,266 --> 00:54:30,566 who presented themselves 767 00:54:30,567 --> 00:54:33,500 in an almost too good to be true way in the beginning 768 00:54:33,567 --> 00:54:36,366 that was really just a manipulation tactic 769 00:54:36,367 --> 00:54:38,367 that led to really bad behavior. 770 00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,866 My name is Lauren Skae, 771 00:54:40,867 --> 00:54:43,033 I go by the Zen Blonde on social media. 772 00:54:44,467 --> 00:54:46,300 Okay, so, Armie's lawyers have spoken, 773 00:54:46,367 --> 00:54:47,733 and they called these claims outrageous 774 00:54:47,734 --> 00:54:50,400 and said that all of his encounters were consensual. 775 00:54:50,467 --> 00:54:52,600 So, I saw the Armie Hammer case unfolding, 776 00:54:52,667 --> 00:54:55,400 and in hearing all these stories, I wanted to amplify them 777 00:54:55,467 --> 00:54:58,966 because I wanted to push them towards justice. 778 00:54:58,967 --> 00:55:00,767 I had so many tips coming in, 779 00:55:00,834 --> 00:55:02,466 and it wasn't just tips about Armie, 780 00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:04,400 it was tips about the whole family. 781 00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:06,466 Armie Hammer's not only a famous actor, 782 00:55:06,467 --> 00:55:09,600 but a famous actor whose family is an institution. 783 00:55:09,667 --> 00:55:12,265 And then, eventually, my friend tipped me off 784 00:55:12,266 --> 00:55:15,467 that the Hammer family was crazy and that there were a few books about it. 785 00:55:16,767 --> 00:55:19,867 Casey Hammer is Armie Hammer's aunt. 786 00:55:19,934 --> 00:55:21,666 I found Casey's book on Audible, 787 00:55:21,667 --> 00:55:25,566 so I downloaded it, and immediately started listening to it, 788 00:55:25,567 --> 00:55:29,466 and literally, like, could not believe what I was hearing. 789 00:55:29,467 --> 00:55:30,643 "That is when I understood 790 00:55:30,667 --> 00:55:32,500 that the red down her front was blood. 791 00:55:33,567 --> 00:55:36,833 She was screaming for my father to stop. 792 00:55:36,834 --> 00:55:40,200 I could see pain and fear shooting out from her eyes. 793 00:55:40,266 --> 00:55:42,200 I heard her voice in my head, 794 00:55:42,266 --> 00:55:44,000 'Run! Run!' 795 00:55:44,934 --> 00:55:46,667 I was paralyzed with fear." 796 00:55:48,867 --> 00:55:51,265 I was so infuriated by the book. 797 00:55:51,266 --> 00:55:54,165 For me, like, just observing it from afar, 798 00:55:54,166 --> 00:55:58,165 it seemed like it was a multi-generational trend. 799 00:55:58,166 --> 00:56:01,667 That very, like, wealthy, privileged men 800 00:56:01,734 --> 00:56:06,867 got away with different bad things throughout these generations. 801 00:56:06,934 --> 00:56:08,866 And then I'm on Google, and I'm, like, 802 00:56:08,867 --> 00:56:10,366 "I can't be the one that tied this together, 803 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:11,843 I can't be the one that tied this together, 804 00:56:11,867 --> 00:56:14,867 this has to be something that's known, I'm just late to the story." 805 00:56:14,934 --> 00:56:16,867 And then realizing that nobody knows this 806 00:56:16,934 --> 00:56:18,400 and then feeling like... 807 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,966 I need to put this out immediately, 808 00:56:20,967 --> 00:56:23,166 this needs to immediately become part of the narrative. 809 00:56:25,066 --> 00:56:26,733 I'm gonna let everyone catch up with the Armie stuff, 810 00:56:26,734 --> 00:56:29,466 but I have a new development, his aunt wrote a book about their family. 811 00:56:29,467 --> 00:56:31,767 And let me tell you the stuff didn't start with Armie. 812 00:56:31,834 --> 00:56:35,065 He is the great grandson of Armand Hammer, an oil tycoon. 813 00:56:35,066 --> 00:56:38,733 His son, Julian, who would be Armie's grandfather, was insane. 814 00:56:38,734 --> 00:56:41,366 He beat the living daylights out of his wife. 815 00:56:41,367 --> 00:56:43,666 I posted everything in rapid succession 816 00:56:43,667 --> 00:56:45,567 as I was still listening to the book. 817 00:56:47,033 --> 00:56:48,733 The first video started going viral, 818 00:56:48,734 --> 00:56:50,600 and then everyone jumped to the videos after, 819 00:56:50,667 --> 00:56:54,366 and some people were literally watching them live. 820 00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:57,866 She ended up finding photos of her dad, again, Armie's grandfather, 821 00:56:57,867 --> 00:56:59,933 watching as one of the housekeepers 822 00:56:59,934 --> 00:57:01,567 performed a sexual act on another man. 823 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,567 I have to say, like, things exploded on TikTok really quickly. 824 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:07,767 It grew overnight. 825 00:57:09,567 --> 00:57:11,566 When it started going viral, I was, like, 826 00:57:11,567 --> 00:57:13,400 "oh, no, this is a real human, 827 00:57:13,467 --> 00:57:15,627 I should have maybe alerted her that I was doing this." 828 00:57:19,467 --> 00:57:22,866 I remember someone texted me and said, 829 00:57:22,867 --> 00:57:25,566 "someone's blowing you up on TikTok." 830 00:57:25,567 --> 00:57:27,566 I remember pulling up that video 831 00:57:27,567 --> 00:57:31,032 and I was watching comments on the screen. 832 00:57:31,033 --> 00:57:33,933 Things like, "are you sure it's his aunt? 833 00:57:33,934 --> 00:57:35,767 Did anybody do a DNA test?" 834 00:57:36,467 --> 00:57:37,867 I mean, it makes sense. 835 00:57:38,767 --> 00:57:40,600 I had been erased from the family. 836 00:57:41,834 --> 00:57:45,265 She actually reposted me on Instagram. 837 00:57:45,266 --> 00:57:47,733 She said, "I don't know who you are, but thank you." 838 00:57:47,734 --> 00:57:50,132 Part of me was kind of pleased 839 00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:52,667 because the world was finding out, 840 00:57:52,734 --> 00:57:54,000 and the other part of me was... 841 00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:57,032 "oh, my God, I'm dead. 842 00:57:57,033 --> 00:57:58,567 My brother's gonna fucking kill me." 843 00:58:02,033 --> 00:58:03,834 What Armie is experiencing... 844 00:58:05,033 --> 00:58:07,600 came from, I'm convinced... 845 00:58:07,667 --> 00:58:10,265 maybe even further back than my grandfather. 846 00:58:10,266 --> 00:58:12,200 Because you just don't wake up... 847 00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:15,767 and become this dark... 848 00:58:16,967 --> 00:58:19,866 controller, abuser. 849 00:58:19,867 --> 00:58:22,166 There has to be a seed that's planted. 850 00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:28,866 My grandfather built an oil empire. 851 00:58:28,867 --> 00:58:30,966 He had politicians in his back pocket, 852 00:58:30,967 --> 00:58:32,766 so, he never took no for an answer. 853 00:58:32,767 --> 00:58:34,767 His life was all about secrets. 854 00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:39,000 My father had loaded guns all over the house. 855 00:58:39,667 --> 00:58:41,366 He used to shoot at me. 856 00:58:41,367 --> 00:58:43,033 It was terrifying. 857 00:58:44,467 --> 00:58:46,566 That's the sign of a true monster. 858 00:58:46,567 --> 00:58:50,165 You can look in the mirror and not see any fault 859 00:58:50,166 --> 00:58:51,666 or that you're doing anything wrong. 860 00:58:51,667 --> 00:58:54,666 And that's how deep it goes with my brother, 861 00:58:54,667 --> 00:58:58,400 and that's why he's so scary because he has no conscience. 862 00:58:59,734 --> 00:59:01,833 Now, it's Armie. 863 00:59:01,834 --> 00:59:06,032 Every generation in my family has been involved in dark misdeeds, 864 00:59:06,033 --> 00:59:09,500 and it just gets worse and worse and worse. 865 00:59:09,567 --> 00:59:13,567 There's so much beneath the surface that now is finally coming to light. 866 00:59:15,934 --> 00:59:19,032 My name is Casey Hammer, and I'm about to reveal 867 00:59:19,033 --> 00:59:21,734 the dark twisted secrets of the Hammer family. 868 00:59:21,758 --> 00:59:23,758 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 70366

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