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ARCHIVE: A matter of seconds now
and they'll be on stage,
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and just listen to that audience.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Ladies and gentlemen, will you
please welcome,
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The Rolling Stones!
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RONNIE: I was lured...
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..just into the atmosphere.
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And that was it, it changed my life.
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MUSIC: (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
by The Rolling Stones
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NARRATOR: The Rolling Stones
exploded into the '60s,
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transforming everything
they touched...
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I can't get no satisfaction...
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..including a teenage boy
called Ronnie Wood.
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RONNIE: I was so taken aback with
the movement and the music,
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which is so infectious,
and the girls were incredible.
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He watched them become the greatest
rock and roll band in the world.
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I was standing before my future!
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Yeah, I was standing
before what I wanted to do.
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"This looks like a good job."
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You know, it's the greatest job
you could possibly have.
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And I thought,
"One day I'll be in that band."
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This is a story about destiny,
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about how one moment set Ronnie Wood
on a path
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that would change not only HIS life,
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but those of the band
that started it all.
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KEITH RICHARDS: Ronnie has always,
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or so he tells me,
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knew that he was going to
be in The Rolling Stones!
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CHUCKLES
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MICK JAGGER: And on guitar,
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Ronnie Wood!
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Right from the get go, right
from...
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"Ladies and gentlemen,"
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you know, "the greatest rock and
roll band in the world,
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"The Rolling Stones!" Boom!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Deep in leafy Richmond,
on a bend in the River Thames,
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stands a house that is the centre of
the London rock scene.
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It's called The Wick, and it belongs
to Mr Ronnie Wood,
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lead guitarist of The Faces.
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KEITH: We were all well aware of
Ronnie Wood.
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MICK: He lived in a very nice
house in Richmond
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with a beautiful view.
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The penny went further
in those days.
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I went in and I saw these beautiful
fireplaces and beautiful oval rooms,
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and I went beyond my means
to get it, of course.
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I sort of... I didn't have the money
for it at all,
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and I just bluffed my way in
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and suddenly I got The Wick.
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You know, he's
never been one
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to look at the
financial side.
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Ronnie's Ronnie, he's care-free.
Proper old bohemian, he is.
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CHUCKLES
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He's a really
original guitar player.
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Mick and Keith were big
fans of The Faces.
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In fact, I remember taking Mick
to see The Faces play...
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..can't remember if it was
The Rainbow on the North Circular.
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I remember him wanging on in the car
on the way back
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about how marvellous they were.
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Ronnie and I were very tight
in the early '70s.
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We did a couple of albums
with Ronnie,
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living at his house free of charge.
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Very nice. Thanks, Ron.
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Keith had moved in after
his own house Redlands burned down,
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only confirming The Wick
as THE place to be.
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And everyone that came round would
be in the snooker room with me.
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That's where the conversation was.
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That's where plans were made.
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That's where jokes were told.
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That's where stories were told.
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ROD: It was like one big pub that
anybody could go to at any time.
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It did get a little out of hand
sometimes, you know,
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there's just too many people
staying overnight,
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sleeping on the floor.
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But some great music was made
in that studio.
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One of the first things Ronnie does
when he buys The Wick
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is to turn the basement into a
recording studio.
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ARCHIVE: Is the sound recording?
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Yeah. Eh!
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When I was making my first album,
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there were so many musicians
coming and going.
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Paul would just come down
and stay or something.
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Linda! And suddenly George is there.
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And Gregg Allman coming
out of the shadows.
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You're like "ah!"
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You name it. There's Keith Moon and
Ringo on the drums,
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and there would be Jim Capaldi
there,
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all these different drummers,
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all queuing up, all just waiting
for a chance to play
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on the next song.
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So, like, all this gathering
of different musicians,
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and it was a real buzz in the air.
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Even Mick likes to drop by,
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usually finding Ronnie
in the studio.
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He's making
some sort of solo record.
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And I used to go in there
and play guitar and do demos.
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He'd always have a song, Mick.
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We started playing around...
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If I should stick my pen
in my heart...
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You know, we're writing
the verses and stuff
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but I was writing
I Can Feel The Fire.
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And I said, "Will you sing
on this with me, Mick?"
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You know, "I've already got
the track."
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He's going, "Yeah, come on."
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I can feel the fire,
burning and burning.
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Anyway, so we had that going,
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and in between songs
we'd work on this other song,
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It's Only Rock 'N' Roll.
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Once he built
the studio,
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I gave him a drum kit.
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I think it's the
worst thing I ever did.
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ARCHIVE: Will we go for a take?
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Here we go.
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We'd worn out Andy Newmark,
the drummer.
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He'd gone to sleep upstairs
and we wanted to cut the track.
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So I said,
"I know, Kenney Jones will do it."
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So I rang up Kenney.
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He always called up when
I'd got one foot in the bed.
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You know, "Mick's here, David,
blah, blah, blah."
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And he said, "I'll be right there."
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And, of course,
I've had a drink.
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So I got really carefully
avoiding all the police.
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So, about an hour later, he arrives.
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So we were playing away.
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By this time, it's about three
in the morning.
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And we're working on this song,
just jamming away.
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So it was Willie Weeks on bass,
Kenney on drums,
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and then David Bowie saying,
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"It's only rock 'n' roll..."
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You know, singing the background
vocals.
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If I could win ya,
if I could sing ya
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A love song so divine
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Would it be enough
for your cheating heart
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If I broke down and cried?
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It's just a demo,
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but when Mick tries to re-record
It's Only Rock 'N' Roll
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with The Stones, they can't recreate
the magic of The Wick,
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so the band decide to keep
the original tracks.
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Mick had taken it over to
Island Studios
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and was starting to mix it.
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ARCHIVE: How loud are you on it?
Here we go.
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And he said, "I've got
Keith down to put his parts on."
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And Keith said,
"Yes, I've taken the precaution
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"of wiping all your guitar parts,"
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and I said,
"Oh, thanks a lot, Keith."
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I said, "But you missed one.
You've left my 12 string on there."
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And he went... "Argh."
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I know it's only rock 'n' roll
but I like it
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I know it's only rock 'n' roll
but I like it, like it...
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It's Ronnie's first appearance
on a Stones recording,
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but he quickly realises he isn't
about to get
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a Jagger-Wood writing credit.
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Mick said, "I'll tell you what,
you keep I Can Feel the Fire,"
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which, you know, skyrocketed to
oblivion, in Keith's words,
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"and I'll keep
It's Only Rock 'N' Roll."
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You know? And I went "O...K..."
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The single eventually reaches
the Top 10 in the UK,
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but Ronnie has his eyes
on a bigger prize.
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I still have my sights on The Stones
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and stepping stones
towards The Stones.
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But in the meantime,
there's plenty of fun to be had
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out on the road with The Faces.
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Music: Stay With Me
by The Faces
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We were a party band
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cos we were all drinking.
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So we were always
in a bloody good mood
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all the time -
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sometimes
too much of a good mood.
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The Faces had caught the tailwind
of that first British Invasion,
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and they're on a world tour,
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to a rapturous reception.
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The crowd had never seen anything
like this,
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especially me and Woody coming
in with our crushed velvet trousers,
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big crosses, bouffant hair
and a little bit of make-up.
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"What is all this?!"
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You know, the hairstyles
of The Faces alone just slayed me.
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I couldn't separate the look
and the vibe from how raw
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and sexy their music was.
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They turned me on.
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The whole audience
were full of colour.
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It was like a party.
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It's like you're one of the audience
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while you're playing to 'em.
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In the morning
don't say you love me...
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There was people sitting up
on the stage with us,
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and we never used to think
anything of it.
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Well, I fell in the audience
on the last American tour,
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seemed to go down all right.
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Mind you, I've always had a few
before I go on.
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Number one is
learn how to laugh at yourself.
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Because if you don't know how to do
that, you are in shtook, mate.
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It was all about fun in The Faces
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cos we so enjoyed each other's
company and each other's playing.
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On one of the early tours
of The Faces,
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we all got given Super 8 cameras.
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We used to film each other
all the time.
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You know, we were like putting
on a show, really, to each other.
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I guess you're a mean old Jezebel
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Let's go upstairs
and read my tarot cards...
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Hey, baby! Yeah!
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Stay with me
Stay with me...
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ARCHIVE: The Faces, Rod Stewart,
lead singer in his Marcos.
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Ron Wood, lead guitar,
with their ladies.
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I thought if I save up, buy myself
a sports car,
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I'll be able to get
a nice girlfriend,
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and then it will all be over,
cos it won't last long.
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We didn't know where music
or rock and roll was going to go.
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MICK: And I still think that you
guys who have got a little bit more
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to do should go first,
but we're all in a band.
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The Rolling Stones also face
an uncertain future.
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Off the road for well over a year,
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and strung-out on drugs,
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a fog hangs over the band.
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ARCHIVE: What do you see as the
future now?
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I don't know, really.
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I have no idea.
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I don't know what to do
until we come to it, really.
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I just... I can't even think about
what I'm doing tomorrow.
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And I know I've got to go to London.
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But that's the extent of my being
able to look into the future.
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MUSIC: Angie
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Angie
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Angie
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When will those clouds
all disappear?
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By now, Ronnie is firmly part
of The Stones' social scene,
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and fate provides him with a
ringside seat
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for a defining moment
in the band's history.
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I was sitting on this sofa
in the middle.
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Mick Jagger was here
and Mick Taylor was here.
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You can't say we're satisfied...
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25-year-old guitar virtuoso
Mick Taylor
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had replaced founding
member Brian Jones in 1969.
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I'll never forget it.
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You know, we were all having a chat
and a drink and then at one point,
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Taylor leans over to Jagger
and says,
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"I'm leaving the band.
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"I'm leaving right now."
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To outsiders, it seemed
like a strange moment to quit.
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The band have just had one of the
greatest runs in rock history,
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releasing Let It Bleed,
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Sticky Fingers and
Exile On Main St.
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But behind the scenes, Mick Taylor
is struggling with heroin addiction
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and life as a Rolling Stone
is starting to wear thin.
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Personally, do you find
that The Stones give
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all the musical outlets
you'd like to have?
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Oh, no. No.
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There's lots
of other things
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I'd like to do,
with other people,
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and I will do
when I get the opportunity.
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It is frustrating
on an individual level,
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but I think it is for everybody
who's a part of a group, you know.
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After years of relentless
touring and recording,
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cracks are starting to appear.
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The Stones are now tax exiles,
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and on top of that, they're banned
from touring in Japan,
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Australia and North America.
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In France, there's even a warrant
out for Keith's arrest.
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Angie
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Angie
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Ain't it time we said goodbye?
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We were all still roaming around the
world trying to find
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which bit that we liked.
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We were strictly really exiles
for real now,
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you know, and everybody...
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So it was very difficult
to communicate with each other.
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Angie...
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Oh, God. I think everyone was taking
far too many drugs then.
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The band should be going into
fucking rehab, like, for a year.
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All of them, including me.
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Angie
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They can't say we never tried.
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But, you know...
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You take the rough with the smooth.
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Back at the party,
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the impact of Mick Taylor quitting
hits home.
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And Mick said,
"I think he was serious,"
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and I said, "I think he was, too."
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And he said,
"What am I going to do?"
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And I said, "I don't know, Mick,
what do you reckon?"
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And he said, "Would YOU join?"
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And I went, "I thought
you'd never ask," you know!
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It was so funny.
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He said, "But you're already
in a band, aren't you?"
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It was a big choice for Ronnie
cos Ronnie was in several bands.
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Ronnie's been in quite a few bands.
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I said, "Well, I don't want to split
The Faces up,"
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I said, "but, look,
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"if you get desperate, call me up."
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The day before we started
Black And Blue,
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Mick Taylor decided
to leave the band.
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So we all met at Heathrow
to go to Germany
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to make the record, to start the
record.
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While we was there, they auditioned
all kinds of guitar players.
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They actually drove me nuts.
I'd have to, you know...
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I'd be sitting there and waiting to
get on with it
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and they'd be auditioning some
bloody guitar player from Timbuktu.
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I don't know.
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The music press lights up with
speculation
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over who might become
the next Rolling Stone.
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Un probleme?
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Jeff Beck was checked in there
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and Steve Marriott
was a contender as well.
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They said, "Who could be
in The Stones?"
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And I know I was...
There was six of us.
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Ry Cooder was one.
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Mick, who played
with David Bowie, was put up.
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Me. I was at least recognised
as being maybe someone
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who could be in that band.
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Well, for a while there
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I was hoping the
phone would ring
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and it would
be The Stones.
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I think all of us
guitar players did.
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Waddy Wachtel did,
for sure.
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One man down, the band decide
to use the auditions
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to fill in the missing parts
on the album.
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First of all, we try people out.
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A long process. I want to talk about
all these other people.
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They're mad. We had a proper,
organised kind of try to find people
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and they appear on the album.
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With a huge American tour on the
horizon,
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and the auditions a bust,
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Mick decides to call in a favour.
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I was on my deathbed in LA.
I was really ill.
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I couldn't move. And the phone rings
and it's Mick and he says,
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"Morning. I'm desperate.
I need you."
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You know, like, and I was going
"All right!"
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Ronnie lands in Munich and heads
straight to Musicland Studios.
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The foyer is still packed
with other guitarists.
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They said, OK, you're in the
studio at 2:00, you know, whatever.
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So I just walked in and I said,
"Hey, guys, I've got this song."
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MUSIC: Hey Negrita
by The Rolling Stones
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I said "it goes like this...
Ba-de-de-de..."
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And Charlie said,
"He's only been here five minutes
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"and he's bossing us around."
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Everybody starts to join in, right?
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MICK: I had a very good rapport
with Ronnie,
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you know, when I was just jamming
with him.
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Mick started shouting "woo!"
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Singing,
and he put some words to it.
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Shake lady, way down south...
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And I'm thinking,
"Man, this is the guy."
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I've already been working with him,
we're already, you know, simpatico.
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Hey Negrita, hey now...
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Woo!
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Well, I mean, we'd all played
together a lot before,
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we knew each other. So that made it
quite easy, in a way,
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to make that choice.
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After months of trying out
different guitarists,
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Ronnie fits right in.
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I mean, there's not a lot of him,
just fit him in anywhere!
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It is London, you know,
and we'd kind of all known...
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I knew him probably better
because I'd been recording with him,
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which made the thing even
more, like, obvious.
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Eventually released
on Black And Blue,
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the writing credit of Hey Negrita
goes to Jagger/Richards, as usual.
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But this time it also says,
"Inspired by Ron Wood."
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Somebody else was going
to be flying in.
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And I said, "Well, cancel them.
What's the point?" you know?
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And they said,
"Yeah, there's no point.
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"Looks like we found what
we're looking for." You know?
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And that is that.
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Ronnie's fate is finally sealed.
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In a moment of peril,
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they didn't really want
a preening virtuoso in the band.
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Eric said, "I could have had that
job." You know?
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I said, "Eric, but you've got to
live with them."
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Tune up, room session.
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Slate one, take three.
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Ow.
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Always used to do that.
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MUSIC: Start Me Up
by The Rolling Stones
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I knew what I had to do.
You know? Even then.
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I knew somebody had to kick them
up the arse, you know?
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And sure enough.
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Ron's my great mate.
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He's a funny fucker.
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If you start me up
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If you start me up, I'll never
stop...
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I've got to go on stage in a
minute.
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If I don't get it up,
they'll never know it's me.
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I mean, Ronnie is one of
the greatest
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naturally funny
people alive.
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And, you know, don't take
anyone too seriously.
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Don't take anything
too seriously.
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Ronnie's kind of
a mischief maker.
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You can just tell.
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Yeah. You know you're
going to have a good time
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when Ronnie walks in the room.
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He just had that
right kind
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of London atmosphere
about him.
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He was the perfect fit
for The Stones, Ronnie Wood.
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He was a very different player
to Mick Taylor,
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who was this rather...
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A brilliant,
sort of meticulous blues player.
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00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:09,640
And Ronnie was more of a good time
English band, you know,
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rock on, you know?
398
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It's the energy
you bring
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that makes
the difference.
400
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720
Anybody can play
it like the record.
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00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,560
But when you go on stage
and you bring it
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00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,840
and the band goes... "Yeah!"
403
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,320
..because of what you brought,
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that's what Ronnie did.
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MUSIC: Brown Sugar (live)
The Rolling Stones
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Ronnie is announced as the new
guitarist at a press event
407
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760
in Manhattan, the launch
of The Rolling Stones'
408
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,960
Tour Of The Americas.
409
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,080
But unseen by the gathered
journalists,
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00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,440
the band set up their equipment on
the back of a flatbed truck outside.
411
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,000
They're about to take
the Stones circus
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to the streets of New York City.
413
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,000
ARCHIVE: It was hard to believe,
but there they were,
414
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right smack in the middle
of Lower Fifth Avenue.
415
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,240
You're suddenly out on the streets
416
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,760
and you're playing fucking
live music!
417
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,360
It was crazy.
418
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,360
We had all the press gathered in the
restaurant,
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00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:18,240
and they thought The Stones
were going in,
420
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760
so we just drove by
playing Brown Sugar
421
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,040
and they're all there,
422
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,000
running out of the restaurant
with their pads.
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00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,360
Brown Sugar
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How come it tastes so good?
425
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,240
It's more of a fun thing, I thought.
426
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,960
Not so dangerous.
427
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,440
The feeling was that you were having
a good time.
428
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,840
It was a bit of a lark
429
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,880
and I think it was very much the
Ronnie thing.
430
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760
You know, every time you change
a member of the band,
431
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,720
it's going to take...it's going
to take on another characteristic.
432
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,080
And Ronnie was certainly
a sense of fun.
433
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,760
He was more of a showman
434
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
and I think more of a humourist.
435
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,280
And that really helped.
436
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Well, you know, he came from The
Faces, where he used to jump about.
437
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,640
Just very funny, because
that's what he's like.
438
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:16,080
And so '75, what he brought
was a whole new sense of purpose.
439
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,400
We felt a coherence as a band again.
440
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600
I think if you had five
Mick and Keiths,
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00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,960
it could have
been overload.
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00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,200
You know, you needed
that yin and yang.
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00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080
And so, for me, that's the magic
of a band, is the chemistry.
444
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,760
Finally back in their groove,
445
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,240
The Stones set out on a monster
46-show trek
446
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480
across the United States.
447
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,800
It was crazy. We'd have Annie
Leibovitz following us everywhere,
448
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,320
and there'd be journalists
and groupies and madness going on.
449
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,480
All these different cultures.
450
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,920
It's just a gathering of people.
451
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600
So many different personalities.
452
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,640
Ronnie had spent years touring
the US with The Faces,
453
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,200
but the sheer scale of a Stones tour
is something to behold.
454
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,080
The first time I'd met a band
with any kind of organisation.
455
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800
We would get newsletters,
we'd know what we were doing,
456
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,720
when we were doing it and we'd know
what we were going to be playing.
457
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,200
All the keys of the songs...
And all this was foreign to me
458
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960
from The Faces, because I think
we might have just
459
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,280
written down a few
songs before, like, "let's do this",
460
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,120
just before we went on stage.
461
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,800
"Oh, all right, then." You know,
"We'll have a go at that."
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00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,560
And it was famous,
The Faces are going...
463
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,920
"What's next, Ron?"
464
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,280
With me going,
"What are we doing next, Ron?"
465
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:53,080
It was so funny to go from that
to the organisation of The Stones.
466
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,640
The whirlwind, the hurricane,
the tornado,
467
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,280
all the highs of being there and the
highs of the dope and the drink.
468
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,600
My feet never really touched
the ground for many years.
469
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,160
Ooh!
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00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,600
God loves you! Woo!
471
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,640
You know, it was like, "I'm home."
472
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,840
You know, I had that feeling
of coming home
473
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,120
when I joined the band,
you know?
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00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,080
All I knew when I first met Ronnie
is he could be my brother.
475
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,360
He found his little brother.
476
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,680
Scene one, act one.
477
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LAUGHS
478
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,160
Now, make a cup of tea, Mother.
479
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,080
Ronnie is well suited to the role
of little brother in The Stones,
480
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,160
growing up the youngest of three
boys in Yiewsley,
481
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120
a working class suburb
of West London.
482
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,240
Oh, dear family.
483
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,560
They were so broad minded, really.
484
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,840
Art, my eldest brother,
and Ted, the middle bro.
485
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,440
They were both artists,
both musicians,
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both very encouraging.
487
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840
Very proud of little Ronnie.
488
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,120
My headmaster used to call me
the artist.
489
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,320
And Mum, she used to love that.
490
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,160
He's a wonderful
spirit, Ronnie.
491
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,800
When he sees something
492
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,960
and he wants to capture
that moment, for him.
493
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,560
And he puts it down very beautifully
and describes it in his artwork.
494
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,600
I love painting.
495
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,560
I love combining that with music
and the other way around.
496
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,360
And it's...that's what keeps
my cycle going.
497
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,160
It's fabulous, you know?
498
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,000
And never a dull moment, you know,
in my life.
499
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,920
My family were so supportive.
500
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,240
My dad, when I had long hair,
he'd say,
501
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,160
"You want to look like that kid,
go right ahead."
502
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,760
And I said, "Are you sure, Dad?
503
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000
"People don't know if I'm a boy or
a girl!"
504
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080
And he said, you know, you're you.
505
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,360
Ronnie's family had a strong
identity all their own.
506
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,560
My mum was born on the boat
called the Orient.
507
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,280
My dad was born on the Antelope.
508
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,160
My parents and all of my family
going back to 1700s,
509
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,080
they're all on the water,
510
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,600
they're on the longboats
and the barges.
511
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,800
Water gypsies, really.
512
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,520
My mum told me,
513
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Grandad Wood,
he had one family up north
514
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,840
and one in Paddington.
515
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,040
She said, "Dirty old sod."
516
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,440
I'm a nomad.
517
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,120
We live out of suitcases.
518
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,440
That's what we do.
519
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Dad always used to tell me
all the different routes
520
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,400
that he would take.
521
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,040
If I was out of line, he'd
always say,
522
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,640
"Where do you think you are,
on your father's yacht?"
523
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,440
It's definitely a flow there that
comes with the nomadic lifestyle
524
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:26,040
of mooring up somewhere, you know,
and having vague memories as a kid
525
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:32,200
of sweet milk, the condensed milk
down in the cabin with my dad
526
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,000
on his...on his buggy.
527
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,360
It was the end of a legacy, really.
528
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,000
You know, my brothers and me
529
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560
being the first to be born
on dry land.
530
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:53,440
My parents had this way about them
of connecting and adapting that...
531
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,120
..I'm sure I've inherited, you know.
532
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,520
KEITH: In this band, it works on two
guitars, you know?
533
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,720
And it's very important who
they are.
534
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,840
CHUCKLES
535
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080
That is the basis of the band,
536
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,680
how these two guitars work together.
537
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,280
In Ronnie, The Stones finally find
a guitarist perfectly suited
538
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,320
to life on the road
539
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360
AND playing with Keith.
540
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,520
And Ronnie had to
learn every Stones song.
541
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,280
So we know that.
542
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800
But how do you fit in?
543
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:36,440
What part of you has to be
exactly like the record?
544
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480
TAPE DECK CLICKS
545
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
MUSIC PLAYS
546
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Keith would run me through a few
things of what he could remember
547
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,840
of the arrangements and stuff.
548
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,080
Because Ronnie had been boarding
our plane,
549
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080
he knew it better than I did.
550
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,320
And I would correct him.
551
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,480
I'd say, "No, that song fades
out on the album.
552
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,920
"You haven't got an ending.
We're going to have to find one."
553
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,480
He's like, "Oh, yeah, you're right."
554
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840
He said, "Just because I wrote them
555
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400
"doesn't necessarily mean
I know them."
556
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080
I've been so sad since you've been
gone.
557
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Ronnie is dropped in
at the deep end.
558
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,720
It's just navigation.
559
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,040
The ancient mariners used
to use the stars.
560
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,920
We used the upcoming break.
561
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Or you know, everyone knows
they've gotta...stop.
562
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,320
Or look a fool.
563
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,640
Navigating a live show is
all about reading the signs
564
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,280
and the odd bit of verbal
communication.
565
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,480
"I love you."
566
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Or "what the hell do you think
you're doing?"
567
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,480
"What the hell was that?"
568
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,240
"What is he doing?!"
569
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,400
"What are YOU doing?!"
570
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200
You know, like, what?
571
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Oh, it was so funny.
572
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,680
THEY PLAY:
Hey Hey by Big Bill Broonzy
573
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,280
And Ronnie's other assignment
was to be Keith's buddy.
574
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,280
Buddy he could play with,
575
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920
because that's where the ideas come
from, you know,
576
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,640
with acoustic guitars.
577
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,440
And there'd be beautiful girls
and Keith and I would forget
578
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,360
that they were there because we'd be
playing and playing and there'd
579
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920
be these beautiful girls looking
at their watches, going...
580
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,120
And yawning, "Oh, fuck, I've been
here three days
581
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,000
"and he ain't even said hello."
You know?
582
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920
"I'll be right there. I've just got
to do this." You know?
583
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,200
I think the music was so powerful
that it just overrode everything.
584
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,200
It's an obsession that started
at a young age.
585
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,280
When I was in short pants,
the household
586
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,400
was always throbbing.
587
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Everyone was a performer.
588
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,720
When they played, they used to
include me,
589
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,120
whether it was on the comb and paper
or kazoo or...
590
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,440
My first instrument was
the washboard.
591
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,320
I don't care what Mama don't allow
592
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Gonna play that music any old how
593
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Mama don't allow no washboard
played in here, ba-ba-ba.
594
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Then you take off into a solo.
595
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200
You had to do a 12-bar solo
on your own.
596
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,720
And it was like, "Oh, my God,"
you know?
597
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,320
It was like, the camera's on me.
598
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Then I'd try my luck on
the comb and paper
599
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,160
and I'd try and play the trumpet.
600
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,600
He's a good drummer as well,
actually.
601
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,000
Maniac type.
602
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,920
I mean, he's had to go at
everything, actually.
603
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,240
Suddenly he turns up with a cornet.
604
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,320
Then he was going to be
a saxophone player.
605
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,240
Put up with him walking about,
honking all over the place.
606
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Ronnie Wood is one of
the most inspired,
607
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520
brilliant musicians I've ever
encountered.
608
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,640
You know, you can put any instrument
in his hands.
609
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,880
I love the fact that Ronnie
is the catalyst.
610
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000
You know, he's the guy that can
bring it all together
611
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680
and he's the guy that can sit
down and figure it out
612
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,360
and make it work.
613
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,160
My ego has to stand aside.
614
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,000
I'm too busy concentrating,
you know?
615
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,560
I'm too busy learning
and going, like,
616
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,720
"OK, this needs a pedal steel
guitar.
617
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,400
"I'll learn how to play it."
618
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,920
For Ronnie, I think joining
an existing band
619
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,320
like The Rolling Stones
620
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,000
was something of an artistically
Faustian bargain that he made,
621
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,520
which is you get to be a part
of the greatest band ever,
622
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,400
and that's exhilarating,
623
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,480
but you also aren't going to be
allowed to do all the things
624
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,800
that you're capable of for the sake
of fitting into this band.
625
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,480
It's over there
626
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Over there...
627
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,640
What's that?
Cha-cha and off.
628
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Keith, rub your face against mine.
I forgot to put make-up on.
629
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,360
Hi, Peter. Yeah, sure.
630
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,640
Yeah, I think Keith had a
friendship with Ronnie,
631
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,720
more so than he had with Mick
or with Brian.
632
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,840
Of course, there's a lot of drugs
involved at the time.
633
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,800
Anyone going to go with Keith was
always going to be a problem.
634
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,560
It's true, Ronnie. Look.
635
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,560
And back on the American tour,
636
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,760
the Keith and Ronnie double act
is about to put on a show
637
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040
for the residents of Fordyce,
Arkansas.
638
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,760
Tell us what happened.
639
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Er, if I could, I would,
but I just don't believe it.
640
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,280
Jay, let me borrow...
I'll buy that hat from you.
641
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,880
The police observed a car swerving
on the road,
642
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,880
and police stopped him as a result.
643
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,800
We stopped in a roadside cafe,
644
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,920
and Keith and I were in
the bathroom,
645
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,080
high and stuff for a couple
of hours.
646
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200
And people had reported that these
two guys
647
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,640
still haven't come out, you know?
648
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,320
In those little hick towns,
it caused a big stir.
649
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,400
When the police came in,
650
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,360
we were juggling different
kinds of dope
651
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,240
and different kinds of smoke,
652
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,000
doing sleight of hand and,
"Oh, look over there! Bump."
653
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,040
EMG is "everything must go".
654
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,000
That's when you're coming up
to a border.
655
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,240
There's smoke everywhere. And
then open a window
656
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,000
and chuck the rest of the stash out.
657
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,680
It's a rule, you know?
658
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,760
Toss it all.
EMG, everything must go.
659
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Police have been very good
to us here
660
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,960
and treated the group with respect
and been very courteous to us.
661
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,800
They were not placed in a jail cell.
662
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,840
They were just detained in
the office for a short period
663
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,760
of time while the vehicle
was searched.
664
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,840
I got rid of all the stuff out of
the window, you know?
665
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520
So, by the time we got there,
they said,
666
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,000
"Right, we're looking in there!"
667
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080
"You won't find anything," because,
you know, it had all gone.
668
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,760
Then we were in the courtroom.
The whole town came out.
669
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,760
We took over the courtroom.
670
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,400
Keith and I got up
on the judge's thing.
671
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Oh, we had the gavel.
672
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,000
We were swapping, doing autographs,
and swapping hats
673
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
with people and stuff.
674
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,760
All the shit that we take for
granted when we we're touring
675
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,600
and all that red carpet shit,
and hotels
676
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,840
and this, that and the other,
677
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,000
when those guys did it,
678
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,200
the only people that liked them
were the fans.
679
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,240
Nobody catered to rock bands on
the road back then, you know?
680
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,520
Nobody wanted them around.
They were dirty.
681
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,240
They did drugs.
682
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:04,400
Public enemy number one in the
United States is drug abuse.
683
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,240
You know, they went totally against
the grain
684
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,520
back in those days.
685
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,640
You know, they were the fucking
real deal.
686
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,720
The drug-fuelled misadventures
of the '75 tour
687
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,120
only sealed the bond
between Keith and Ronnie.
688
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,800
CHEERING
689
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,920
I started this, The Rolling Stones,
with Brian Jones,
690
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,760
a certain kind of guitar player.
691
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,200
And we developed a sort
of sound there.
692
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,240
Then came Mick Taylor.
693
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,640
Totally different guitar player.
694
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,320
We had to separate the rhythm
from the lead.
695
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,320
And then I started to work with
Ronnie and I am thinking,
696
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,400
"Man, this is the guy."
697
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,360
You know, when you think about
Ronnie and his ability
698
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,200
to intertwine with what it is
that Keith does,
699
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,440
I think that that's a great gift.
700
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,400
If God himself created the perfect
foil for Keith,
701
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080
it had to have been Ronnie Wood.
702
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,160
I don't need no beast
of burden...
703
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Ronnie's ability to play both rhythm
and lead
704
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,840
creates endless possibilities
for Keith,
705
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,880
and their friendship becomes part
of their sound.
706
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,200
You know, you still think of Ronnie
as the new guy,
707
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,040
and I'm sure that's just the
way it is with the band.
708
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,120
But when Ronnie came into it,
I think he pushed Keith
709
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,600
back out into the front again.
710
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080
I think he inspired Keith
to start playing again.
711
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,320
They play very well together.
712
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Keith loves Ronnie playing
because he could...
713
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,840
It's like interchanging.
714
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,080
I don't know. I don't listen
to either of them!
715
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,080
GUITAR RIFF
716
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,600
We are the axeman and we cometh.
717
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
That relationship is really special.
718
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:16,000
It's really special because they are
actually feeding off each other.
719
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,760
It's kind of a call and a response.
720
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,640
Keith calls, Ronnie responds.
721
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Ronnie calls, Keith responds.
722
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,000
When you hear them, I'm not sure
which guitarist
723
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,680
I'm hearing at any given time.
724
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,800
It's all chords hitting
guitar rhythms,
725
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,040
guitar riffs,
726
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,000
and good old Ronnie probably
played a lot of the stuff
727
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,800
that Keith gets credit for.
728
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,560
They become one person
with four arms.
729
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,920
They are weaving this guitar web.
730
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,720
The ancient art of weaving is
a matter of give and take.
731
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,160
It's the space between
what you play.
732
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,520
It's the meaning of what you play.
733
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,120
And no overindulgence.
734
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,680
And when you get two basket cases
working with each other,
735
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
you have an early form of weaving.
736
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,800
I love watching Ronnie
and Keith weave.
737
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,200
It's so interesting to me the way
that they rehearse.
738
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,080
It's not like they're looking
at charts.
739
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,000
They're not chart guys.
740
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,680
That is not what they do.
741
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,320
They are feeling, breathing,
742
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,400
living through the fingers guys.
743
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,720
And so they're free enough
to not care about making
744
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:38,080
what would be considered a mistake
with normal human beings.
745
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,320
GUITAR RIFF
746
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,400
We have a knack of, if one goes
this way,
747
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000
the other one is sliding this way.
748
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,800
It's like, if a solo comes up
on a certain number,
749
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,520
we don't even look at each other.
750
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,680
If I want to take the solo,
I'll take it, right?
751
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,320
And if he wants to take it,
he'll take it.
752
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000
Really? You leave it as loose
as that? Oh, yeah.
753
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,240
Are there ever any nights
when neither of you take it?
754
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,240
Yeah, that's when he's knocked
me out
755
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:19,680
or I've knocked him out.
756
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,240
The beauty of The Stones is
that you never know.
757
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,000
They're always walking a tightrope.
758
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,240
Expect the unexpected.
759
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,600
But that highwire act isn't
just down to natural chemistry.
760
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,000
When the drugs worked,
you had a line
761
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,960
of really good pharmaceutical,
762
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,760
you had a great song coming out
of it, you know?
763
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,880
Or a great painting.
764
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,320
A lot of it was the ritual -
the rolling of the joint,
765
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,920
the filling of the pipe.
766
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,280
And then that would be set
against the ritual
767
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,160
of the way the music was structured.
768
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,440
That gave you
the feeling of invincibility,
769
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600
that you could tackle anything.
770
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,320
But off stage, some start
to refer to Ronnie
771
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,240
as the Sorcerer's Apprentice.
772
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,640
I think Sorcerer's Apprentice
is quite a compliment.
773
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,760
Er, because I was in a way...
774
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,160
I was being broken in
to really dangerous ground.
775
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,520
People really were dying,
you know,
776
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
to try and keep up with Keith's
drug intake.
777
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,280
We used to party heavy.
778
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,840
There was a whole series of decades
where we were all really high.
779
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,320
Even in our most spaced-out days,
there was like a little switch.
780
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,520
We'd go, "OK, I've got to go
on stage now."
781
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,920
Like, "I've got to get it together."
782
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,440
I think that's what saved
my life a lot,
783
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,920
and all of our lives during the
heavy using years,
784
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,240
was the actual focus
of having to get it together,
785
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,960
to be in front of an audience
and give them what they wanted.
786
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,240
Obviously the downside...
787
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,360
It depends what drugs
you're talking about.
788
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,760
It depends how they react on you.
789
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,680
The hard stuff - it ain't called
the hard stuff for nothing.
790
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,200
And you better be hard enough
to deal with it, that's all.
791
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,080
In 1978, Keith narrowly escapes
a heavy prison sentence
792
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,600
in Canada for heroin possession
and decides to clean up.
793
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400
But just as he's turning away
from hard drugs,
794
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Ronnie sinks further into addiction.
795
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:47,360
In the crazy days,
796
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,080
it got out of hand when it was
the base pipe.
797
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,600
Freebasing crack cocaine became
a dangerous obsession
798
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,840
in the LA music scene
in the late 1970s.
799
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,360
I used to quite innocently think
it was the best thing going.
800
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,880
I used to take it to parties
and go,
801
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,280
"Everybody, you've got to try this!"
802
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,640
But within a few years,
freebasing becomes an epidemic.
803
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,160
Crack cocaine.
804
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,120
It's as innocent looking as candy,
805
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,480
but it's turning our cities
into battle zones.
806
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,080
It got to the point where it wasn't
funny any more, you know?
807
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,480
It was just that getting high
with that pipe was frightening.
808
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Do anything for it.
809
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,000
When it came to freebasing,
I was like, "This is nuts!"
810
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,480
You know? It had to stop.
811
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Easier said than done.
812
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,800
By the summer of 1981,
The Stones are preparing
813
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,280
for another huge tour
of the United States.
814
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,280
There's only one problem -
815
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,400
finding an insurance company
that will cover
816
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,440
an increasingly out-of-control
Ronnie.
817
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,080
Faced with the very real prospect
of his sideman being left behind,
818
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Keith makes an offer.
819
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,040
There were some problems
with Ronnie.
820
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
"I'll cover it."
KEITH LAUGHS
821
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,720
Because to me, Ronnie's out of
Rolling Stones.
822
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:15,360
I need that man like, you know,
I need breathing.
823
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,640
The '81 tour starts well,
824
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,400
but ten days in,
Keith gets news that Ronnie
825
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,120
is freebasing crack
in his hotel room.
826
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,360
Ronnie was on the other side
of the hotel
827
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,720
and somebody had come up, I think,
"He's doing the stuff up there."
828
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,920
You know? He'd promised me
he wouldn't
829
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,920
because I'd been guaranteeing
that he wouldn't, da-da-da.
830
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,680
So he was sort of letting me down
a little bit.
831
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,400
I was just up there getting high,
you know?
832
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,640
In the way he didn't like it.
833
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,360
He didn't agree with the pipe.
834
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,800
The whip comes down, yeah.
835
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,200
And he thought I had another woman,
because he's terribly moral.
836
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:02,000
I flew into a rage...
KEITH LAUGHS
837
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,360
..and zoomed through the hotel.
838
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,360
There's a whole posse of people
going around the corridors
839
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,080
searching for me.
840
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,560
So I get to Ronnie's room
and knock on the door.
841
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,400
I finally came out.
842
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,600
I smell the stuff coming out.
843
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,040
"You cu..."
844
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,040
So I gave him some back.
845
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,880
We all fall into Ronnie's room.
846
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,520
He tries to land one on me.
847
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,240
The couch goes over.
848
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,480
Bam, Ronnie's about to fall out
the window,
849
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,840
so I grab him and
then everything stops.
850
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,000
And then laughter,
and that was that.
851
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,280
Yeah, that was the one bundle.
852
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,600
We laughed it off, and I went
into the next room
853
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,920
and there's Mick and Charlie
on the floor.
854
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,080
They're playing some game
on the floor.
855
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,720
And I went, "Look at me,
I'm covered in blood!"
856
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,200
And they just sort of went,
you know, like,
857
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,080
"OK, right, your move."
858
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
And that's brothers.
They are brothers.
859
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,440
Like it or not,
that is your brother.
860
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Keith can talk shit about Ronnie,
861
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,680
but you can't.
862
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,440
"No, I'LL do that."
863
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,240
"That's my place."
Nobody's place but his.
864
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Ronnie eventually manages
to quit smoking crack,
865
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,480
but his drug taking and drinking
will go on for another 30 years.
866
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,240
The pot calling the kettle black
is one thing,
867
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,800
but sometimes I thought he was
a little reckless with it.
868
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Mick and Keith stuck up for
Ronnie through a lot.
869
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,640
You know, when Ronnie was drinking.
870
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,320
Like we all were, but Ronnie
was more.
871
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,240
Everything's more with Ronnie.
872
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,720
Mick said, "Do you think you might
need a little help?
873
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,160
"Do you think you would do that?"
874
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,600
And I said,
"Sure, I'll give it a go."
875
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,800
He said, "When do you want
to do it?"
876
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,520
And I said, "Oh, a couple of weeks."
877
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,280
He said, "What about tomorrow?"
You know?
878
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,520
And I said, "OK, I like
a challenge. Let's start."
879
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,160
That was my first rehab.
880
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,600
He had so many goes at kicking
whatever it was. Drinking.
881
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,240
I mean, he must have had
so many counsellors.
882
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,840
Being Ronnie, of course, "Come in!"
883
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,000
And you'd meet this bloke
you'd never met.
884
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,760
And then there'd be another one
three months later.
885
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,440
"Come in!" And you'd all have
to say hello.
886
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
After doing it for so many years,
887
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,520
your body thinks it needs it,
you know?
888
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Well, your body is saying,
"Give me some,
889
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,880
"but I can't handle it any more."
890
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,400
It was the beginning of me
seeing the light.
891
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,640
You know, he really wanted
to be a sober person,
892
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,280
but it was very difficult to do,
893
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,320
and it is difficult to do if you've
been doing it all your life.
894
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,040
GUITAR RIFF
895
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,320
It's very difficult. You go through
a dry period and you go,
896
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,520
"I've done it! I've cleaned up!
So now I can have just one!"
897
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,960
And that's the big mistake,
cos you can't have just one.
898
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,400
But in 2010,
Ronnie finally gets clean,
899
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,880
aged 63.
900
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,520
I did it with the help of people -
with the Fellowship, they call it.
901
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,920
It's a wonderful thing.
902
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,160
I did 90 meetings in 90 days,
903
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,000
and I did 90 meetings
in 90 days again.
904
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,720
I loved every minute of it.
905
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:46,480
I've never come down from
the serenity
906
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,840
that I got from that since.
907
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,600
I don't think I ever will.
908
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,280
I mean, it's a good feeling.
909
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,360
And now Keith Richards is going
to sing for you Little T&A!
910
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,520
She's my little rock 'n' roll
911
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,040
Oh
912
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Oh, she's my little
rock 'n' roll...
913
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,760
But in the aftermath of Ronnie's
fight with Keith,
914
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,000
it's the other relationship at the
heart of The Rolling Stones
915
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,640
that's in need of rehab.
916
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,920
Keith, tell me a little bit about
your relationship with Mick.
917
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,440
Er... You're celebrating the 20th
anniversary of the band.
918
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Yeah, I've known him since
he was about four or five.
919
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,400
When we first went to school.
920
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,920
The most recent information is
921
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,480
the pair of them last night,
in his room, fantastic.
922
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,400
I left them alone. I thought,
"If you can get on
923
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,120
"this well, knowing each other
from four,
924
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,720
"and now you're both 80!
925
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:52,480
"I mean, that's an amazing thing!"
926
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,000
No, they get on great.
Oh, you are a wit.
927
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,400
She's my little rock 'n' roll...
928
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Ronnie's a great mediator
between the two.
929
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,320
He notices frictions and things
and likes to heal the wounds.
930
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,680
You know? Ronnie's always been
emotionally sensitive.
931
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,200
You know? Ronnie doesn't like
confrontation, I don't think.
932
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,400
Don't like aggro.
933
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,680
There's all kinds of girlfriend,
management rumours,
934
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,560
people putting the spoke in,
saying,
935
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,840
"He said this about you, you know?"
936
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,520
You know? We have to let
all that ride.
937
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,880
You know? You can't be affected
by all that.
938
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,160
She's my little rock 'n' roll.
939
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,000
Bill, come in a little bit.
940
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,880
The band had been together
for 60 years.
941
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160
But there were moments
when The Stones came
942
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,040
very close to breaking up.
943
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Yeah, there have been a couple
of spots
944
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,680
where it was quite possible.
945
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:50,560
There was a possibility, I suppose,
around the time Ronnie joined,
946
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,120
when Mick Taylor had left.
947
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,200
And there was a possibility
in the '80s
948
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,800
when Mick wanted to do solo work.
949
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Thanks, Mother. Love you.
KEITH LAUGHS
950
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,720
Mick releases his first solo album,
She's The Boss,
951
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,200
in February, 1985.
952
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,560
A few weeks later, The Stones go
into the studio
953
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,800
to start sessions for the album
that would become Dirty Work.
954
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Yeah, remember tempo. Because
it's the second only one
955
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,560
on the album that's slow.
956
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Hold it down. No, let's take
it easy.
957
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,720
We ain't trying to cut a track.
958
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:30,320
All we're trying to do is keep
an idea on tap.
959
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,960
This time, even Ronnie isn't able
to lighten the mood.
960
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,000
When I got there, it was bad.
961
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
It was bad.
962
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,760
Stop passing the buck.
963
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speed it up right away
and you fuck the notes up.
964
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Do you have the desire to go
back on tour for a while?
965
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,800
I love to go on the road,
but right now, I think,
966
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,440
to be perfectly honest,
967
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,160
after a year in the studio
with The Rolling Stones,
968
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,400
I could do with a little time
away from them. Right.
969
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
I mean, you know, I think it's
a little bit...
970
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,000
The relationships are a little
bit fragile and, I think,
971
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,680
to go on the road, that would show
on stage. OK.
972
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,520
I've heard them have arguments.
973
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,560
I could hear the screaming
through the door.
974
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,240
Yeah, it was the hatred from Keith
that was really severe.
975
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:18,720
Didn't want his name mentioned,
976
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:21,080
didn't want to ever see him again,
and blah blah blah.
977
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,760
And...it was just bad vibes.
978
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,760
And the pair of them were not
going to make up this time.
979
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,680
The Stones are off the road
indefinitely.
980
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,440
Those around the band wonder if
this might finally
981
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,960
be the end of it all.
982
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,360
We've read a great deal about your
relationship with Mick recently,
983
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,400
that you want to go on tour and Mick
doesn't want to go on tour,
984
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,560
and that's the cause of tension.
Is that the case?
985
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,000
Yeah, but I mean...
986
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,000
I mean, you don't do a gig like this
without having fights occasionally.
987
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,760
This one just happened to pop out
into public, you know?
988
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,120
It's another moment of destiny
for Ronnie.
989
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,000
You know, I've got to keep
this institution going,
990
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,480
so, you know, I've got to act now.
991
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,440
So I rang up Mick and I'd said,
992
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,760
"If I got Keith in 15 minutes,
would you talk to him?"
993
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,320
And he said, "Yeah, I would."
You know?
994
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,880
So I prepared the ground
and I said OK.
995
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Before I know it, I'm calling Mick,
996
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,720
saying surely we've got to do
something, man, you know?
997
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,600
And suddenly it all falls back
into place again.
998
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,320
And it's almost as if you're...
999
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,840
I hate this with saying all about...
1000
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,800
..authority and everything,
1001
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,680
but it's as if
some higher authority...
1002
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,840
"Uh-uh, Keith. Go on."
1003
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,800
That was a higher power moving
there, you know?
1004
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,800
Ladies and gentlemen,
1005
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,600
will you please welcome
The Rolling Stones!
1006
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,880
CHEERING
1007
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,000
After a deep, cold winter,
spring will come.
1008
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,200
I think they love him for that,
you know?
1009
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,480
They probably hated him
at times, too,
1010
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,880
because they want to be mad
at each other.
1011
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,000
And then Ronnie comes in and makes
them laugh about something
1012
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000
and it's like, "Get out of here,
Ronnie!"
1013
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,760
Childhood living...
1014
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,000
I've got to keep this thing going -
in motion, you know?
1015
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,480
Whatever it takes.
1016
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,720
..is easy to do...
1017
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:36,240
Over 60 years, Ronnie Wood has never
let that spark die.
1018
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,720
From first sight of The Stones
as a teenager
1019
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,360
to still touring with them
into his 70s.
1020
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,720
Did Ronnie save The Stones?
1021
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,200
Course he did.
KENNEY LAUGHS
1022
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,200
No matter what's going on,
he'll say, "You know,
1023
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,760
"we'll be all right. We'll get
through that. It'll be fine."
1024
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,960
And I really would go so far
as to say
1025
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,240
no Ronnie, no Rolling Stones.
Not now.
1026
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:05,640
He's amazing.
1027
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,240
He is the glue that binds them.
1028
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,440
Yeah
1029
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,040
Cos the wild horses
1030
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,480
Couldn't drag me away
1031
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Cos the wild horses
1032
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Couldn't drag me away...
1033
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,480
Ronnie's the MSG.
1034
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,360
He's the sticky stuff that's
keeping it all together.
1035
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,040
I watched you suffer
1036
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,320
A dull, aching pain...
1037
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,000
There was a tough glue
with two horses
1038
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,680
trying to pull it apart.
That's what it reminds me of.
1039
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,920
There's a bond, anyway. There's
a bond that can't be broken.
1040
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,520
Araldite? Araldite!
1041
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,040
LAUGHTER
1042
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Cos the wild, wild horses
1043
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000
We'll ride them some day
1044
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,000
Wild horses
1045
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,280
Couldn't drag me away
1046
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,040
Wild, wild horses
1047
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,040
We'll ride them someday
1048
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,160
Yeah!
1049
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,480
CHEERING
1050
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,040
Thank you!
1051
00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:46,640
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