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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,160 OK, this is Keith, take one. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,960 MUSIC: Can't You Hear Me Knocking by The Rolling Stones 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,920 Every guy I've ever met in my life wants to be Keith Richards. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,520 He is the epitome of a rock guitarist. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,640 The original, the one and only. 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,960 It's Keith Richards. 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,360 Keith Richards has led a life wreathed in legend. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,880 His attitude and legacy underpin the whole idea of the Guitar Hero. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,280 What troubled mind would around wondering 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,680 what other people's perceptions are? 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,840 I have enough dealing with my own. 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,440 I can only imagine what delusions other people labour under. 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,480 More than just a musician, 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,800 he's a defiant hedonist and a poster boy for sheer survival. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Rock and roll has to have an element of danger 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,440 and an element of unpredictability. 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,480 And when you look at Keith Richards, he embodies every element 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,840 that you want in your rock and roll star. 19 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,400 Keith is all about living your life with no-one telling you how to be. 20 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:22,480 It's following who you are fearlessly. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,480 It's really the skin of the teeth. 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,560 First off, that it happens to you, then you've got to survive it, 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,480 because you don't know what you're in for when you start this thing. 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,120 I still don't. So many surprises. 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,400 I could kid myself that I was obviously born to play rock and roll 26 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 and be an enormous star. 27 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,120 No, I dreamt of that, 28 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,480 that doesn't, that's not the same thing as knowing, is it? 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Do we call that destiny? What do we call it? 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,040 I call it love. 31 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,600 There isn't another guitar player like Keith Richards. 32 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,120 There's nobody who comes anywhere close to him. 33 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 It was that sound of the guitar 34 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,760 and the sound of that guitar 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,120 was the creation, I would say, of the Rolling Stones. 36 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,840 He is definitely the archetypal 37 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,360 bad boy rock guitarist personified, 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,680 and he's the model 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,320 that all of us rebellious rock guitar players followed from. 40 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Keith Richards wrote the dictionary version 41 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,000 of what rock and roll was. 42 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,160 A songwriter, a guitar slinger, a travelling troubadour. 43 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 He's such an encyclopaedia. 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,360 You need any advice? Just go to Keith, 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,000 no matter what state he's in, he'll... 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Boom, go straight to the heart of something. 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,120 "Oh, OK, that's the answer. Keith has the answer." 48 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Keith is somethin' else. 49 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,440 He's emotionally very present. 50 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,960 As present as you can be 51 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,880 when you're really in the business of fantasy. 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Say you were a rock and roll fan as a teenager, 53 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,840 you had five kids and you had to go to work 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,960 at the assembly line for the Ford Motor Company. 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,640 Well, if you go to a Stones show 56 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,880 and Keith is standing there looking badass, 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 you're visiting the part of you that you feel is missing. 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,760 After 60 years, the Stones are still Rolling, 59 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,440 playing sell-out shows in all four corners of the globe. 60 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,040 But at the musical heart of every gig is one key character. 61 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,560 I think everyone creates a character for themselves to a certain extent. 62 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,520 I don't know whether Keith's created a character of himself 63 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,280 which is real or not real. 64 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Keith's got a reputation as a hell-raiser, 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,960 so I think he was very worried, at one point, 66 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,840 if he was no longer going to be a hell-raiser, 67 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,960 he's not that character any more, 68 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 who are you, then? 69 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,120 I don't think he cares about that any more. 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,160 I don't blame him. 71 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Are you comfortable doing interviews like this? 72 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,160 I mean, you've been doing them for a long time. 73 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,560 Is it something you relish? 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,280 It depends on the interviewer, old boy. 75 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:27,800 I don't mind. You know, it's... 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,600 I mean, I must say, now and again, it's a grind, 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,960 you know, answering the same questions. 78 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,240 At the same time, that's a challenge, because you think, 79 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,000 "Can I come up with another answer 80 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,880 "that means the same thing in different words?" You know? 81 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 So you slip and slide, you know. 82 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,320 WAITS: If you have a persona, it is like a ventriloquist act. 83 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,920 It's sitting on your lap, 84 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,040 but it's not you. 85 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,440 I guess you could call it convenient at times, 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,920 but there are also other times when it's very inconvenient. 87 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,960 We are all hand in glove in this dastardly scheme 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,400 to sell our products. Um... 89 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,840 But I consider it as part of the gig. 90 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:17,160 So, uh...there we go. 91 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Story so far. 92 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,600 Why are you coming to see the show? Who are you going to see? 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Keith Richards. 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,320 I like his hair. 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Just his hair? I just like him. 96 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Life in the spotlight hasn't always been easy for Keith. 97 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,840 JAGGER: He's terribly shy. 98 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 I mean, as I knew him when he was a child 99 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,680 and growing up to be a teenager, 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,440 I know what he's really, really like. 101 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,320 No-one else knows him from that period except for me, I think. 102 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,160 You can see from the interviews. 103 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,720 He's introverted, naturally. 104 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:08,920 It's... 105 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,360 ..hard to define shyness. 106 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,280 I don't know, when it comes to shyness, 107 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:15,440 I don't really know where to...to put it. 108 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,880 I mean, I sometimes I think I use it as a weapon 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,960 and say, "Oh, he's shy," you know? 110 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,960 And I guess, in a way, you get shy of things, 111 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,720 crowds and stuff because, 112 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,160 I mean, I can't go to a movie, to a cinema any more. 113 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,760 Sometimes, when I have... 114 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,720 ..I've never felt, like, more sort of embarrassed in my life, 115 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,000 somebody going, "It's Keith Richards! It's Keith Richards!" 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,440 I've ruined the whole movie for everybody, right? 117 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,320 I mean... And then I go, "Excuse me," tripping over people. 118 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,680 "I'll leave now." 119 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,560 And, you know, I get shy in that situation, you know? 120 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,320 And that just comes with fame and all of that crap, 121 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,480 which loads, throws another load of stuff at you. 122 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,600 JAGGER: If you're an extrovert in show business, 123 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,000 I think you're in a good place. 124 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,760 If you're an introvert in show business, 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,000 it will cause you, probably, some anguish 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,840 or discomfort, perhaps, or anxiety. 127 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Most people that are in bands, guitar players, 128 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,280 maybe they're a little introverted, 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,840 they're a bit awkward, they can't talk to girls. 130 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Even Jimi Hendrix would just be at the back of the class, mumbling, 131 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,360 but give him a guitar 132 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 and the world lights up. 133 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,760 TURNER: Keith didn't care, in the beginning, 134 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,680 about clothes or about his image. 135 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,920 He was just concerned with the sound. 136 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,960 This was his way of performing. 137 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,280 He was back there making the sound. 138 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Keith is born in 1943, 139 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,120 18 miles east of London in Dartford, Kent. 140 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,680 I understand that you two, of all the five fellows, 141 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,680 you two have been friends longest, is that right? 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,720 You've known each other, went to school together? Yes. 143 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Little lads. When we were little boys. 144 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Little bitty boys. And you were raised around London, right? 145 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Yes. 146 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Is it in London itself, or... 147 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,160 No, just outside, about 20 miles. In the suburbs. 148 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,680 The suburbs of London. 149 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,760 What's, what's the, uh, suburb called? 150 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,360 Dartford. Dartford? 151 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,120 You're right on the edge of the country, 152 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,440 so you've got, you know, commuters, heavy industry 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,920 and you've got countryside. 154 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Very beautiful, still very beautiful. 155 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,840 The Dickensian sort of marshes that go to the Thames Estuary, 156 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,200 described in Great Expectations so fully. 157 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Dartford? Is that on the planet Krypton? You know? Um... 158 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,440 You were growing up in the residue of a huge world war, 159 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,600 but you didn't know anything about it. 160 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,000 It was just the way things were. 161 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Bombsite here, you know? 162 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,760 "No, you can't have that. 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,720 "We don't have any ration tickets left." 164 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,680 I mean, it wasn't unusual. You didn't feel hard done by it. 165 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,240 It was just the way it was. 166 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,600 The exam called the 11 Plus looms large, 167 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,600 sorting British kids into the different educational paths 168 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,800 which will determine their future. 169 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,680 I remember the 11 Plus. I didn't take it. 170 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:36,080 I went down with some kind of flu at the time, or whatever it was. 171 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,920 And so I didn't actually get to take it, which, I was immense... 172 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,760 I think I had a psychosomatic disease, as I just... 173 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Exams are the thing that'll kill me, you know? 174 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,800 I mean, it's... Jesus. 175 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,480 You either became a professional, basically, of whatever, you know... 176 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,960 Or, you know, you dug the ditches and you do, you know, 177 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,160 what working men do. 178 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 And, of course, being kids at that age, you don't realise 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,600 that you're being streamed... 180 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,520 ..to one aspect of society and, you know, 181 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,440 you're being dumped, or you're being elevated. 182 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,960 You have no idea, right? 183 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Anyway, I took the middle route and got expelled. 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,240 Which I... 185 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,760 ..I recommend heartily to any red-blooded English schoolboy. 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,640 As far as I was concerned at the time, 187 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,200 they'd heaped humiliation on me 188 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,560 and I weren't going to take it any more, you know? 189 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:30,320 You break it with one form of authority 190 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,920 and maybe after that, you start to question... 191 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,560 ..other forms of authority, you know? 192 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:41,840 There was always something about being told what to do, 193 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,240 especially without any reason. 194 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:51,000 If Rebel Keith is born of a healthy disregard for authority, 195 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,680 it's his grandfather, Gus Dupree, an amateur jazz musician, 196 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,200 who fosters an early enthusiasm for music. 197 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,600 ARCHIVE: He was the father of seven daughters. 198 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Well, as far as I'm concerned, 199 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,560 I seem to have been the only boy he didn't have. 200 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,920 So, in fact, for me, he was more like a dad or a friend 201 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,280 than a grandfather. 202 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,560 He'd take me into music shops, 203 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:23,560 but we'd always go in round the back. 204 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:25,560 We never went in the front door. 205 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:29,960 And there was always a little deal about, you know, some guitar strings 206 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,160 or some violin strings. 207 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,960 But then I would be in the back of these music stores 208 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,440 for like hours, watching people make guitars, 209 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,920 violins, repairing things. 210 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,520 It was like magical stuff going on. 211 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,520 He always had his violin and instruments ready. 212 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,760 He never, ever once pushed me or tried to interest me. 213 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,400 He would just play music, you know? 214 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,640 All kinds, you know, jazz, classical. 215 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,040 And then we'd just live our life around the music. 216 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Until one day, he noticed 217 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 that I was looking at the guitar on top of the piano. 218 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,400 And, uh... "Since you keep looking at that," 219 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,040 he said, "you want to have a go?" 220 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,240 And that's how... Boom, gave it to me. 221 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,480 He said, "I'll show you a few chords here and you're on your own." 222 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,640 And that was it. 223 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Can we just talk about your first guitar? 224 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,120 I think we've got it here. 225 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,720 I'd love to see you handle it. 226 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,560 So would I! That's all you need to do. OK. 227 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:36,080 What the... 228 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,840 Careful here. Oh, that's it. Oh, man. 229 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Yeah. The mice were at it then, the mice have been at it now. 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,360 This... 231 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,160 ..I believe it is the one that my grandfather gave me. 232 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,200 But I'm not sure about that. 233 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,800 I don't know, but... 234 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Definitely my grandfather. 235 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,400 Wow, you see? Lovely piece of wood. 236 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,680 MUSIC: Maybelline by Chuck Berry 237 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,320 Oh, Maybelline 238 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Why can't you be true? 239 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Oh, Maybelline... 240 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,000 As Keith starts out on his musical journey, 241 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 his attention is grabbed by an irresistible new sound. 242 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,320 Rock and roll. 243 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,120 I was motivating over the hill 244 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,240 I saw Maybelline in a Coupe de Ville 245 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,240 Cadillac rollin' on over the road 246 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,080 Nothin' outrunning my V8 Ford... 247 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,600 I was getting an urge for some country music and some blues. 248 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,080 I was starting to get interested. 249 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Very little that you could get in England at the time. 250 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,560 I think when rock and roll came along, 251 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,920 it sort of fused the whole thing together for me, you know? 252 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,360 Ha! You know, "Where have you been?" 253 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,800 At that age, it was devastating. 254 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,840 Done got cloudy and started to rain 255 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Tooted my horn for the passing lane 256 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,720 Rainwater blowing all under my hood... 257 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,920 That's it. That's where you want to go. That's... 258 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,200 "Book me a room!" 259 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,400 It was an exciting time to be a musician at that age. 260 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,440 Yeah, it was great. Ha-ha! 261 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,640 It was so completely different 262 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,240 from anything we'd ever heard. 263 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,880 And it had an excitement and a positivity about it, I suppose. 264 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,640 Rock and roll started whenever it was, '58. 265 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,080 It was Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly 266 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,080 and all that lot that turned our heads. 267 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,880 That introduced us more into folk, I suppose, and then into blues 268 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,400 and the blues artists of the day. 269 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,920 It was like collecting rare stamps, finding good blues records. 270 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,800 JAGGER: The hits were released by major record companies. 271 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,160 So, if it was a hit R&B track, or if it made the Hot 100, 272 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,440 these were easy to get. 273 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Major labels released these records. 274 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,280 To buy the whole album of Muddy Waters was much more difficult, 275 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,080 and you had to go to a jazz shop in Charing Cross Road 276 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,720 and pay a lot of money for it. 277 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,760 And we used to order them from America a bit cheaper 278 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,760 and there was a sort of little network of people 279 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,160 that had record collections. 280 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,880 And so you would go to their houses and they would play you music 281 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,240 and you would hear songs perhaps you'd never heard before. 282 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,440 ARCHIVE: I was going to Sidcup Art School. Right. 283 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,120 And Mick, at that time, was going to the London School of Economics. 284 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,000 But I just get off at Sidcup, you know? 285 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,680 Meanwhile, I'm sitting in the carriage and suddenly he walks in. 286 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,320 "There's Mick," who I hadn't seen in years, you know. "Wow, man. 287 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,080 "What's that under your arm?" HE CHUCKLES 288 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 And he pulls out the Best Of Muddy Waters 289 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,120 and Rockin' At The Hops by Chuck Berry. 290 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,680 And these are American pressings, you know, and you can't get 291 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,280 these records in England at the time. 292 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,200 Basically, that was the hook-up for the Stones and for Mick and I, 293 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,120 was just that we had this same interest in music. 294 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,680 BLUES HARMONICA PLAYING 295 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,040 To know that these guys were dedicated enough 296 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,280 to send their money off into the oblivion, 297 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,040 in the hopes that something would come back, 298 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,280 and then they were, like, obsessed and live off of that record. 299 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,520 I just think it's just phenomenal. 300 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,000 What was it about a cricket-playing, football-playing 301 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,200 bunch of characters, who drank tea at four o'clock, 302 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,080 who loved this music? 303 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,720 Music from other cultures has a romantic flair 304 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,280 and is kind of exotic. 305 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,040 So for the Rolling Stones, being teenagers in England, 306 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,320 getting their hands on authentic American Blues records, 307 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,680 authentic American folk records, country records. 308 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,040 It carried with it this whole romantic gravitas. 309 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,360 JAGGER: The thing about the blues is it felt like it was coming 310 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:08,880 from some other place. 311 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,080 And it's much more raucous, it's much more heartfelt, 312 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,680 it's much more vivacious. 313 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,160 It's not being filtered through all these things. 314 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,480 That's what kind of made us jealous in England, 315 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,520 was like, "Man, these cats have got, you know, 316 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,680 "they've got a long stretch on us." 317 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 And, you know, we had a lot of catching up to do. 318 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,480 It was just a fascinating journey. 319 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,480 And these presumptuous 18-year-old white kids, 320 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,440 who say, "We're going to be the best blues band in London." 321 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,080 Robert Plant said it to me best. 322 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,640 He said, "You know, Brian, 323 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,440 "these white boys got a hold of American black music 324 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,960 "and gave it fist." 325 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,200 The Rolling Stones! 326 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,800 WILD CHEERING 327 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Said the joint was rocking 328 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Going round and round 329 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,400 Yeah, reelin' and a-rockin' 330 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,760 What a crazy sound 331 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,760 But they never stopped rockin'... 332 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,160 I saw that whole thing go down, man, 333 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,400 with the white blues. 334 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,920 The English were ahead of it. 335 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,960 They spread it. 336 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,480 There was something really different about it. 337 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,040 There was like this undulating rhythm happening 338 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,240 and it was sexually charged. 339 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,120 Goin' round and round 340 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,160 Yeah, reelin' and a rockin' 341 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,800 What a crazy sound 342 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,560 And they never stopped rockin' 343 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,080 Till the moon went down. 344 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,320 18, you know, playing your blues. 345 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,880 And within a matter of months, women are trying to tear your clothes off 346 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,600 and they're jumping off of balconies. 347 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,600 LAUGHING: This is not quite what I had in mind. 348 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,880 It was mayhem. 349 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,960 They were really good. 350 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,560 My God, as a band, they were really good. 351 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 They had this charisma. 352 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,720 They were so cool and really didn't give a fuck. 353 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,920 That was their attitude on stage. 354 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,440 What a crazy sound 355 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,040 And they never stopped rockin' 356 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,520 Till the moon went down 357 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,800 I said the joint was rockin' 358 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Goin' round and round 359 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,160 Yeah, reelin' and a rockin' 360 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,680 What a crazy sound 361 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,440 And they never stopped rockin' 362 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,840 Till the moon went down... 363 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,120 The Stones represented a danger, 364 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,000 a teenage danger that we 365 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,800 hadn't really experienced before. 366 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,920 They were definitely different than, say, the Beatles. 367 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,200 The Beatles were there to entertain you. 368 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,040 These guys came for your daughters. HE LAUGHS 369 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,400 The Rolling Stones connect with a post-war generation 370 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,160 eager for new music. 371 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,040 But the key to their success 372 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,520 is a reverence for a blues sound steeped in history. 373 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,800 We did it through researching, 374 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,040 getting really soaked up in the blues, you know. 375 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,320 We wanted to find out... 376 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,440 ..where the funkiest, swampiest damn stuff came from, you know. 377 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,640 MUSIC: Hobo Blues by John Lee Hooker 378 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Keith Richards' choice of listening music 379 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,800 is a great musicology course for anybody. 380 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,280 He had a sort of evangelical drive to expose people to the blues. 381 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,120 When I first thought to hoboin' 382 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,640 Hoboin' 383 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,520 I took a freight train to be my friend... 384 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,000 We would have a lot of 385 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,200 listening sessions in Keith's room 386 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,040 with just all this great black music. 387 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,200 And I think the Rolling Stones actually tapping into that. 388 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,400 You know I hobo'd, hobo'd, hobo'd... 389 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520 And expressing it in their way 390 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,160 is the evolution of the music, as it should be. 391 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Oh, yeah. 392 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,680 I think the whole wave of music 393 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,120 that came out of England in the mid 1960s 394 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:04,880 was a reflection of the best of what we had cooked up over here 395 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,760 over the last 50 years. 396 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,880 They embraced it in the most beautiful way. 397 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,600 They honoured that music. 398 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,440 I left home that morning 399 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,120 My mother followed me down to that... 400 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:28,720 Being in America, to find out that what we'd heard in England 401 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,200 was only the tip of an iceberg 402 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,520 and that you could burrow far deeper, 403 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,480 and that for every guy that you knew about, 404 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,720 there were ten others, easily as good. 405 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Music and the beat and the sounds came from the motherland. 406 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,760 The black experience that is soulful, that has a cry, 407 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,720 that has a deep understanding, that touches hearts, 408 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,160 that communicates deeply. 409 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:07,240 The Rolling Stones took it and ran and made it their own. 410 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Next time I start to hoboin' 411 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,600 I'm going to have my baby by my side 412 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,120 And then I know my night 413 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:21,960 It won't be so lonely... 414 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,920 We were just a bunch of guys that loved our music, 415 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,640 were obsessed with our music, 416 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,560 but in our English fantasy of America in the '50s, 417 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,360 it just sort of pulled you and called you. 418 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,000 It was the place to be if you wanted to be a musician. 419 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,600 TV: Now, oh, something for the youngsters. 420 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,360 Five singing boys from England who've sold a lot of albums. 421 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,640 They're called The Rolling Stones. 422 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840 I've been rolled while I was stoned myself. 423 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,560 LAUGHTER 424 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,960 So I don't know what they're singing about, but, uh... 425 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,200 ..here they are. APPLAUSE 426 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,280 I don't want you to 427 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,200 Be no slave 428 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,200 I don't want you to 429 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,160 Work all day 430 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,160 I don't want you 431 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,680 To be true 432 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,000 I just wanna make love to you 433 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Love to you, baby 434 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Sweet love to you, baby 435 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,320 Love to you 436 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,160 I can tell by the way that you twist and walk 437 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,240 I can see by the way that you baby talk... 438 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,800 The Rolling Stones sang our music back to us. 439 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,760 But they were singing with us. 440 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,520 You know, I never felt that they were singing to us. 441 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,640 I felt like they wanted to be one of us. 442 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,720 I welcomed them. 443 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,640 I think we all welcomed them. 444 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,200 I don't want you to be true 445 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,440 I just wanna make love to you, baby 446 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,400 Love to you, baby 447 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,480 Sweet love to you, baby 448 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,440 Love to you, baby 449 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,120 Love to you 450 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,920 I 451 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Wanna make love 452 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,480 To you. 453 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,920 I was really excited 454 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800 that somebody felt and loved this music 455 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,000 as much as I did and would dedicate their lives to playing it 456 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,800 and exposing people to it. 457 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,840 Some people thought they might have been appropriating, 458 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,560 or this, that and the other thing. 459 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,440 Well, um, 'scuse me, 460 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,080 it's right here in your backyard, 461 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,280 and I don't see you doing anything about it. 462 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,040 ARCHIVE: Cos it's been said that the Rolling Stones 463 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,480 gave black music back to the Americans. 464 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,160 How do you feel these black musicians feel about The Stones? 465 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,400 I mean, I know people like Muddy Waters, etc... 466 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,040 ..are really grateful, you know, for... 467 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,480 I mean, really, I mean, we did very little. 468 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,520 I mean, all we said was that we dug Muddy Waters, you know? 469 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,080 I mean, which happened to have a lot of an effect for him, you know? 470 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,080 In his own life. It means more bread for him, 471 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,360 because he got on to the white college circuit 472 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,600 and things, which wouldn't have happened, things like that. 473 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,520 But we weren't the only ones to do it. 474 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,200 I mean, every English band in the '60s that went to America, 475 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,640 you know, was... 476 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,960 Came there and said, 477 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,280 "Well, you know, we've got our 478 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,760 "music from black records." 479 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,480 This is way beyond our dreams 480 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,520 of being the biggest R&B band in London. 481 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Muddy Waters has suddenly got a hit record again. 482 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,920 John Lee Hooker is on the charts, 483 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Slim Harpo and all of these people 484 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,560 that were totally unknown two years before. 485 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,560 And we felt very proud of the... 486 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,000 I mean, Jesus, what a mantle we carry. 487 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,920 I still get a nice warm glow 488 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,560 out of turning everybody back on to their own stuff. 489 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,760 To find yourself on the bill with Muddy Waters... 490 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,400 Whoa. Victory is ours. 491 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,880 You know, it's cool. 492 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,400 A reworking of music that was already American 493 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,360 helps the Stones storm the States and the world. 494 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,360 In just a matter of months, 495 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:32,800 their sound and image are number one on both sides of the Atlantic. 496 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320 We felt it was a gift coming to America. 497 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,480 I mean, suddenly to be transplanted from, er... 498 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,120 ..some wannabe... 499 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,000 It was endlessly fascinating, America. 500 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,360 After Dartford. 501 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,640 We grew into it. And music grew into us and... 502 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,560 ..America changed rapidly in '64, '65. 503 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,360 White America, when we first came here, 504 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,440 was incredibly old-fashioned to us. 505 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Our idea of America was modernity. 506 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,640 And once you got out there in the sticks. Whoa! 507 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,920 You realise the incredible gap there. 508 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,120 America was the Holy Grail. 509 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,520 It really, really was. 510 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,880 And it was to do with not just 511 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360 wanting to be big in America. 512 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,120 It was more that their fame and notoriety 513 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,560 had given them an opportunity. 514 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,320 It was like a laminate, a pass into American culture. 515 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360 And I think that was the thing with Keith. 516 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,920 He saw the Stones as this amazing laminate 517 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,000 into the fabric of what made American music what it was. 518 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,480 I think it's the call, 519 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,440 but the Americans were still playing folk songs and folk music. 520 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,920 Basically through country music, 521 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760 which always sounds like schmaltz to a lot of people, I know, 522 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,720 but there's a lot of truth in country music. 523 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,320 MUSIC: Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones 524 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,440 I actually think that The Rolling Stones 525 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,320 are some of the first proponents 526 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,480 of what's now called Americana music. 527 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,920 It's ironic, but you listen to something like Wild Horses. 528 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,120 That's a pretty eclectic blend of authentic American music styles 529 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320 that no-one had really touched on before. 530 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,160 They've written some of 531 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,840 the quintessential country songs, 532 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,280 as far as I'm concerned. 533 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,600 Childhood living... 534 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,320 They're so much more than an R&B band, 535 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,800 and they're also extremely brilliant pop song craftsmen. 536 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,920 I think they took Jimmy Reed and Muddy Waters 537 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,960 and George Jones and Merle Haggard 538 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,160 and brought it back to us with pop hooks. 539 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,720 I don't know that there is a band that can write better hooks 540 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,960 than The Rolling Stones. 541 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680 I love that the Stones can do that, 542 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,600 that they can take stuff from their influencers 543 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,240 and do it their way. 544 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,400 They translate it and do it their way. 545 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,800 That's another wonderful thing they've taught me, 546 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,400 is how to put a song together. 547 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,720 Wild horses 548 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,280 Couldn't drag me away 549 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,680 Wild, wild horses 550 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Couldn't drag me away... 551 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200 One of the things people don't talk about, 552 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,760 or I don't hear talked about, 553 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200 is what a great songwriter Keith Richards is. 554 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,000 And I think it's because he's so known as a guitarist 555 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,040 and also because he's so known to be dissolute, or whatever, 556 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,720 that beautiful thing is that he is, you know, that people, 557 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,840 I don't think, have really recognised the extraordinary 558 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,320 contribution that he's made through his songwriting. 559 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,160 I really remember a particular, 560 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,440 period as a really little guy 561 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,760 from Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, 562 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Exile on Main Street. 563 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,440 That was the period when the Stones was the background music of my life. 564 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,160 It just kind of adds another thread between this tapestry 565 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:02,040 of this marvellous backlog of material that the Stones have. 566 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,520 It's like... 567 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,760 ..whoa! You know, what a legacy and... 568 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,240 ..lucky dip. Take a song, you know? 569 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Pick it out. 570 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,680 It soon becomes clear, writing, as well as performing smash hits, 571 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,160 is the name of the game 572 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440 if they want to be a new kind of musical superstar. 573 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,080 We were working the clubs in London 574 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,600 and the Beatles just came out and had a hit - 575 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,360 Love Me Do. 576 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640 And we said, "Oh, man, what a great record." 577 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,680 The Beatles suddenly explode. 578 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240 And there's, there you are going... 579 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,880 "Oh. Yeah, but we're a blues band." 580 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,960 The Beatles changed this whole thing. 581 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:54,000 Our job was to be like the premier rhythm and blues band in London, 582 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,280 and we managed that. 583 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:02,680 But we had no idea of progressing beyond that stage. 584 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Keith, he'd play The Beatles all the time. 585 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,880 It'd drive me absolutely batty. 586 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,360 And why he was playing The Beatles 587 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,520 wasn't because he didn't want to listen to anything else. 588 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,720 Keith wanted to write these pop songs, 589 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,760 cos we're undeniably the blues band, 590 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,640 but we... 591 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,560 ..knew we had to be a pop band. 592 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,400 We were just envious, too, man, you know? 593 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,520 I mean, they're doing what we want, you know, they got it. 594 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,600 You know? They can make records. 595 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,640 The Holy Grail was to make records, to be able to get into a studio. 596 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,880 It was like diamonds! 597 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080 You know, you'd think it was a gold mine, 598 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,280 which in a way it was, you know what I mean? 599 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,120 But you'd think you were invading Fort Knox, 600 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,360 just to make a record. 601 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,640 Without The Beatles, The Stones would never have been there. 602 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,600 The reason The Stones existed, 603 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,440 or got, made records, was because the record industry 604 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,960 couldn't afford to lose another Beatles. 605 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520 We'd never have got in a recording studio without them. 606 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,320 We would've sold, and I probably did, 607 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,640 sell my soul just to be on tape, just to get on record, 608 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,320 just to learn how records are made. 609 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Recording is, still is, to me, the most mysterious art. 610 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,840 I think he could live in a studio. 611 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,600 He just loves music. 612 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,080 Music is always part of his life. Music is always on. 613 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,720 Music is always the backdrop of his life. 614 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,920 And the guitar is always there, the piano is always there. 615 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,080 Always has it right handy whenever he wants it. 616 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,400 But he loves the process. 617 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,240 I think he loves the process more than anything. 618 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,560 He loves developing a song. He likes to write in a studio. 619 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,120 It's a kid's dream come true. 620 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,200 I mean, you're constantly living those moments of, like, 621 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,240 "I've got a guitar strapped up, in a studio to... 622 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,840 "and we're cutting." You know, and... 623 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360 ..it's a surreal sensation in a way. 624 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,200 Keith would come to the studio 625 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,640 and he'd have maybe half an idea, 626 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400 and he'd sit and play it and play it 627 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,120 and play it and play it on his own. 628 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,240 And then, when he got it almost into shape, 629 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,960 Bill and Charlie would sit with him and they'd play along with him 630 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600 to help him develop the riff into a song. 631 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:39,280 The Stones have a great craft of songwriting, 632 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,880 and that is how to present it. 633 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,920 How to record it so that it knocks your socks off and you go, "Whoa!" 634 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520 What they've done is epic. 635 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,600 The way they were able to weave these disparate elements together. 636 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,080 It's a magic trick. 637 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600 What you do is the job of a minstrel. 638 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,760 You know, songs evolve, music evolves. 639 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,280 Keith was not the purist of the band. 640 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,640 A blues purist. 641 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,640 Keith liked to write pop songs. 642 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,600 He wrote lots and lots of pop songs. 643 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,440 Ruby Tuesday, As Tears Go By. 644 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,880 He also wrote Angie. 645 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,520 I mean, these are not blues songs as we know them. 646 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,920 These are pop songs that emanate, really, from Keith, originally. 647 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,600 Keith's talent drives the band's success, 648 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,280 but he's a reluctant star... 649 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,680 Just to tell you... 650 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,280 ..struggling to handle the adoration and fame that engulfs the band. 651 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,440 I'd have been quite happy 652 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,840 to make all these records totally anonymously. 653 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,880 HE LAUGHS But then, of course, 654 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,840 I mean, that's not possible. 655 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,760 I mean, hey, you've got to get out there and put yourself out. 656 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,480 And I learnt how to do that and I quite enjoyed it. 657 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,760 But I guess my refuge was heroin, 658 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,480 was drugs, and there I stayed as long as I could. 659 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,760 Keith Richards on guitar. 660 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,320 She drew out all her money at the Southern Trust 661 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,240 And put her little boy aboard a Greyhound bus 662 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,360 Leaving Louisiana for the Golden West... 663 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120 As his star rises, 664 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,600 keeping up with Keith in the 1970s 665 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,240 becomes a deadly game. 666 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,200 And his addiction to heroin 667 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,160 ultimately threatens the future of the band. 668 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,320 I mean, the thing is, most people 669 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,600 are kind of shy and awkward 670 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,960 and they wouldn't have got 671 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,680 on a stage if they weren't loaded. 672 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,040 So it works in your favour in the initial years, 673 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,920 but when it starts working against you and you get addicted 674 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,000 to the drugs, cos they're addictive, then you have a problem. 675 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,160 MUSIC ECHOES AND DISTORTS 676 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,680 Everybody's got a different metabolism, 677 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,760 a different way of dealing with that amount of adoration. 678 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,800 I just felt that as long as I kept myself to myself, 679 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,320 that, er, you know, there was no reason for them 680 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,120 to make any big fuss about it. 681 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,280 Keith's transformation confirms him 682 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,000 as an international icon of rebellion. 683 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,760 And a target for the authorities. 684 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,200 Late in the winter of '77, 685 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,880 Richards is in Toronto... 686 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,960 ..where the Rolling Stones are set to perform. 687 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,760 We went to Toronto to do this concert. 688 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,400 I remember... 689 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,000 when the police were walking up the staircase... 690 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,280 ..and wondering what that was all about. 691 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,840 The day before, Keith's girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg, 692 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,680 arrives at Toronto Airport 693 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,440 and as the Canadian Police search her belongings, 694 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,360 they find her in possession of hashish. 695 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,000 An investigation begins 696 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,400 that leads the police all the way to Keith's hotel room. 697 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,080 Of course, he was found with drugs 698 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,160 and heroin and all that kind of stuff 699 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,760 because he had a habit at the time 700 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,240 and the history of The Rolling Stones changed on a dime. 701 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,800 TV: The Rolling Stones is one of the most famous rock groups 702 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,080 in the world. 703 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,960 A week ago, lead guitarist Keith Richards was charged 704 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,840 with possession of heroin for the purpose of trafficking. 705 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040 It was actually terrifying because he realised 706 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,480 he was up for, you know, it could be 20 years of prison. 707 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,520 I think the reason I was taking it 708 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480 was how to deal with fame and pressure 709 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,920 and it's one way to run away. 710 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,240 I wouldn't recommend it to anybody 711 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,040 but there again it's a personal choice, I don't know, 712 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,400 and it's a rough old world 713 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,760 and sometimes you need something to blank it out. 714 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,160 And it probably ain't worth the ride. 715 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,280 It was the realisation in Canada 716 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,640 that I was actually jeopardising the band. 717 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,320 And if they were going to put me away, 718 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,360 I mean, it was bye-bye, you know. 719 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,520 If I get out of this and don't have to cold turkey in jail, 720 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,440 I'm going to go and clean up. 721 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,200 He just made a commitment, "I'm going to get this together," 722 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,560 because, at that point, it was music or drugs - 723 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,640 and music was far more important than drugs. 724 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,440 How do you think this conviction is going to affect you and your music 725 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,920 and The Rolling Stones? 726 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,360 I don't know. I just want to get on with it now that it's over, 727 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000 you know, just get on with what I'm supposed to be doing 728 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,120 instead of worrying about this, you know. 729 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,880 Do you think it will have any effect, then? 730 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,760 I don't know. Might get a song out of it. 731 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,280 STADIUM CHEER 732 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,640 MC: Ladies and gentlemen... The Rolling Stones! 733 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,360 UPROAR FROM CROWD 734 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,760 It's not drugs, fashion or lifestyle choices 735 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,240 that will define Keith's story. 736 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,480 It's his talent... 737 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,400 ..that marks him out as one of the most important 738 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,120 and influential artists of our age. 739 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,360 Keith is all about feel and instinct. 740 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,680 If he's writing a song, he may have two chords 741 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,400 and he's perfectly happy to sit there and play those two chords 742 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840 for two hours. 743 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,320 And he's just waiting for the next part of the song to come 744 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,000 but he's not going to force it. 745 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,680 He's going to just keep playing this mantra until something appears. 746 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,520 And it always does. 747 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,960 I really do like a striking intro to records, 748 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,320 especially a rock and roll record, you know, 749 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,880 and I'm talking about that particular format. 750 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,560 But if an intro can grab you, 751 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,720 you're going to be in for at least a few more minutes. 752 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:54,080 And if the riff behind that intro grabs you, then, 753 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,880 then, you've pretty much got 'em. 754 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,160 MACHINE CLICKS 755 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,880 INTRODUCTION TO GIMME SHELTER 756 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,880 If you listen to The Rolling Stones' records, 757 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160 Keith wrote some unbelievable intros. 758 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:13,920 MUSIC: Gimme Shelter by The Rolling Stones 759 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,960 Every guitar player in the world went, "Wow!" 760 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,840 And, you know, "How did he do that?" 761 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,920 Well, he took off one string. 762 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,320 There's five strings. 763 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,920 I take the bottom string goes off, 764 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,360 and then, you tune the rest of the strings to the chord of G. 765 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,240 That tuning of his, there's 766 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,520 something menacing about that. 767 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,800 Just to weave that in the centre of the groove. 768 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,600 That is a brilliant guitar sound. 769 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,200 It says so much with so little. 770 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,800 Holy smoke! 771 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,000 There's something about the intonation of the notes, 772 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,160 the separation and the point that I would say is almost mystical 773 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,720 that when hitting it the right way in the right moment, 774 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,080 you know - cheap ride to heaven. 775 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,480 My very life today 776 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,520 If I don't get some shelter 777 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,440 Ooh, yeah, I'm gonna fade away 778 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,040 War, children... 779 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,440 Silence is your canvas, for a musician, 780 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,920 and it's how much you fill in the canvas 781 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,600 and how much light you let through. 782 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,280 It's something you really don't know, it's almost intuitive. 783 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,120 You do it by feel, really, on instinct. 784 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,200 Ooh, see the fire is sweepin'... 785 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,200 There is a Keith Richards' sound 786 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,000 and a Keith Richards' approach to the guitar 787 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,440 that just is unlike anything that 788 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,880 I've ever heard from anyone else. 789 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,560 There's a certain type of way that he plays in the middle of the neck 790 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120 and a certain hammering, slashing. 791 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,760 War, children 792 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,160 It's a just a shot away... 793 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,760 I just love riffs. I just love a great...connection of notes 794 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,640 that can repeat themselves over and over without being monotonous, 795 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,960 without being boring, and that's what a good riff is. 796 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,960 It's the same old thing but it keeps changing. 797 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,960 People will still be trying 798 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,480 to play what he plays 799 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,520 50 years from now. 800 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,960 There won't be another. 801 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,720 GUITAR SOLO 802 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,760 It's tough to characterise Keith Richards' guitar playing. 803 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:44,720 I believe it's a really organic extension of who he is, of his soul. 804 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:48,800 It's no different than speaking, it's no different than walking. 805 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,080 It's just a musical manifestation of who he is 806 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,920 and not all musicians are like that. 807 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,240 Keith's always known what he wants on the guitar. 808 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:06,320 The way he plays is he establishes the sound first - 809 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,960 with Pierre, his guitar tech - 810 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,960 and various ways of achieving the desired effect. 811 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,000 This is where he picks. 812 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,280 It's so worn out that some of the dots have come out. 813 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,880 He's lost a tooth here. 814 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,240 HE CHUCKLES 815 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,960 This actually looks scalloped, but it's not, 816 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,360 it's just for how worn out it is. 817 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480 He's actually wearing out the fingerboard here, 818 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,720 and that's typical of where he strums - up in this region. 819 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,840 It's great when you see the person 820 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,040 that you listened to so many years ago 821 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,880 still having a relationship with their instrument. 822 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,840 You've got five strings. 823 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,880 There's only three notes because there's two doubles, 824 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,960 two sets of Ds, two sets of Gs, and a B. 825 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,840 So, the way it rings, the way certain things ring, 826 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,680 you don't hear that on a normal guitar. 827 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,960 It's definitely not about filling it up. 828 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,280 If you're still thinking about what you can add 829 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680 instead of what you need to take away, 830 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600 you're still at the beginning stages. 831 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,880 I didn't want to be a guitar player. I wanted to make...noise 832 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,680 and if it took using a guitar to do it, I'd do it. 833 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,800 I became a pretty good one in...in some respects. 834 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160 I suppose, really, I'm saying that I use the guitar really 835 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,520 as a percussion instrument. 836 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,360 It's a rhythm thing for me. 837 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,360 Erm...I do love, you know, playing solos, 838 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,520 but I've always said to myself that solos come and go, 839 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,880 a riff lasts forever. 840 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,800 HE LAUGHS 841 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000 You know, it sort of rounds it off. 842 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,080 It doesn't sound wrong if it doesn't rhyme. 843 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,120 Play us a quick one. 844 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,360 Really? 845 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,280 KEITH STRUMS GUITAR 846 00:48:53,280 --> 00:49:00,520 MICK VOCALISES WITH GUITAR 847 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,880 Mick and I in those days used to sit around with guitars 848 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,080 and we'd write, that's what we did. 849 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,520 I know you find it hard 850 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,680 To reason with me 851 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,600 Ba-ba, ba-ba-ba 852 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,600 But this time it's different, oh 853 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,440 Ba-ba-ba 854 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,440 Darling, you'll see 855 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,680 You got to tell me you're coming back to me... 856 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,880 Writing songs and making records, it's like a jigsaw puzzle. 857 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,840 There's always that thing of 858 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,800 not quite knowing what's going to come up next. 859 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,040 When it all locks into position, it is quite an incredible sensation 860 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:50,000 and everybody that's involved in doing that when it's happening 861 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,880 knows that for a moment you're in a special place, a special time 862 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,480 and, you know, you feel... 863 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,680 actually where you feel very privileged to actually be there. 864 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,960 Every great song is born of conversation. 865 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,480 It really takes the two of them to create that synergy and that energy. 866 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,280 I mean, they're the perfect yin and yang. 867 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,200 Mick is the guy that brings it. Keith is the guy that holds it down. 868 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,680 That rhythm is undeniable. 869 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,880 I mean, he's the guy that took Chuck Berry 870 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,440 and took Johnnie Johnson's whole thing 871 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,040 and brought it to a rock guitar and an open tuning. 872 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,200 You can write great songs with people 873 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,960 but when there is a dynamic there that's bigger than the two of you, 874 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080 that's where the great stuff lives. 875 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,760 It's the kind of a band 876 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,600 that was built on "we", not "me". 877 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:03,120 It took the chemistry of all of them to make it work. 878 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:09,040 You can't say, "Oh, if I wrote Angie, it's like, listen to this." 879 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,240 And Keith's like, "That's a load of shit, I want to write blues." 880 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,120 No, it's the other way around. 881 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,040 It's Keith saying, "Listen to this melody." 882 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,520 And I'm going... I could say, 883 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,880 "That's not the blues. That's...that's like... 884 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,440 "that's bordering saccharine ballads, you know." 885 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,560 But I didn't say that, of course, it's a very beautiful song. 886 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,120 So, what I'm trying to say is 887 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,640 that The Rolling Stones are many, many things. 888 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,640 And one of the good things about The Rolling Stones is that 889 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,000 they embrace a lot of kinds of music. 890 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,120 Yes, they're a blues band. Yes, they're a rock band. 891 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,080 Yes, they did things like Paint It Black. 892 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,600 Yes, they did like classic rock. 893 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,320 Yes, they did dance songs. 894 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,400 You have to push innovation a bit sometimes 895 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,480 because people get older, they just want to stick in one thing. 896 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,960 I think with Mick and Keith over the years, 897 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,720 they have an acceptance, you know, 898 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:03,280 a total respect for each other 899 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,840 in terms of what they both bring to the band. 900 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,960 And I think it's valid, actually, to think that 901 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,600 Mick has always been the one driving them forward. 902 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,520 It's always been Keith that's been aware of 903 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,480 the credibility of the music they're making 904 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,520 to make sure it continues to be rooted. 905 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,520 Keith had said, "Listen, we are still this blues band, 906 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,320 "irrespective of the pyrotechnics and 200,000 people in the audience. 907 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,360 "We're still that band that played The Marquee in 1962 to 100 people." 908 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,640 That is Keith looking back 909 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,240 and holding on to that rare musical depth 910 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,080 and Mick propelling the band 911 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,640 into whatever the future may bring for them. 912 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,760 CROWD SINGING 913 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,920 If it comes out of The Rolling Stones, it's The Rolling Stones. 914 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,640 Now and again, Mick and I have come up with a song... 915 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,000 HE LAUGHS 916 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,120 ..looked at each other and gone, 917 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,600 "No, not The Stones, no, no!" 918 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,000 Please allow me to introduce myself 919 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000 I'm a man of wealth and taste... 920 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,120 There are few songwriting partnerships 921 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,720 to match Jagger and Richards. 922 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,640 And despite their fair share of disagreements, 923 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,320 their relationship has endured against all the odds. 924 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,720 And I was 'round when Jesus Christ 925 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,320 Had his moment of doubt and pain... 926 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:41,720 You had this image of those two guys being the first real example 927 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:45,920 of a lead singer/lead guitar player relationship. 928 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,440 Pleased to meet you 929 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,480 Hope you guess my name 930 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,960 But what's confusing you Is just the nature of my game 931 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,520 Stuck around St Petersburg... 932 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,160 Mick wants to be the leader. 933 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,840 He's the leader of the pack. 934 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,840 Keith doesn't give a fuck about being a leader 935 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,680 but he thinks he really is. 936 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,920 They're completely different. 937 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,480 Mick wants to try new things. 938 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,400 He is very much a part of whatever's going on. 939 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,160 Keith is technophobic. 940 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,160 That is one of the things that still makes the edge between them. 941 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,480 We all have separate lives, separate identities, 942 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,320 and musically, they're yin and yang. 943 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,240 They're joined at the hip. 944 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:42,480 Has there been times when the 945 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,880 disagreements have flared up? 946 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,200 Of course there has. 947 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,240 But I think you take a deep breath, you look at each other and say, 948 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,600 "Wait a minute. Last time I checked, 949 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,480 "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts." 950 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,840 Even at times when Mick and Keith 951 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,600 weren't at their best relationship-wise, 952 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,560 I would dare you to get between them. 953 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,040 There's a bond there that can't be broken. 954 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,200 To do it for this long, Mick and I both look at each other... 955 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,600 HE CHUCKLES 956 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,680 We must be doing something right! I don't know what it is. 957 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,480 The idea of turning people on for 60 years is like, whoa! 958 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,120 HE LAUGHS 959 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,560 But the thing is relentless. 960 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,760 It's like being a juggernaut. 961 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,840 Guess my name... 962 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,040 You see them walk to the stage as older guys, 963 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,520 and they climb the stairs, 964 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,720 and each stair, 965 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,520 another piece of energy comes up. 966 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:52,560 And then, they go out. 967 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,360 It's like a shot of lightning. 968 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,840 Just call me Lucifer... 969 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,560 It's like going to Never Never Land. 970 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,800 I'm in need of some restraint 971 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,360 So if you meet me 972 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,280 Have some courtesy 973 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,920 Sympathy and some taste... 974 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,120 The music comes first. 975 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,360 Writing, recording, performing music - 976 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,880 that's where they're at. 977 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,120 When they finally step off the stage for the last time, 978 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,000 we will all know that we shall never see anything like that ever again. 979 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,320 Yes... 980 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,560 What's confusing you Is just the nature of my game 981 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,120 Yes... 982 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,160 CROWD NOISE 983 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,720 Come on! 984 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,000 Yeah! 985 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,920 MUSIC CONTINUES, CROWD CHEERING 986 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,600 I mean, God knows what I'd have been like if I didn't do this - 987 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,120 my wildest nightmare. 988 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,160 Really, all you wanted to do was play music, 989 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,920 trying to get it better, trying to get the band tighter. 990 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,600 MUSIC ENDS, CROWD ROARS 991 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,040 Not many people get a chance to do this 992 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,280 with thousands of people, you know, as a job. 993 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400 CROWD CHEERS 994 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,640 CROWD CHANTS: Ole, ole, ole, ole! 995 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,840 You know, when you're exchanging that much appreciation 996 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,320 to each other, it is profoundly touching. 997 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,160 Music is a resilient thing. 998 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,080 And sometimes I think, 999 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,240 God, is it the only thing we've got that we can trust? 1000 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,480 HE CHUCKLES 1001 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,040 CROWD CONTINUES TO ROAR, WHISTLING 1002 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,800 I gave up many years ago trying to analyse this bunch 1003 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200 and why it works and how it works. 1004 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,760 I've found the best remedy is to put them all together in a room 1005 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,000 and say, "It goes like this - one, two, three, four," 1006 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,160 and all the problems go away. 1007 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,160 CROWD CONTINUES CHEERING 1008 00:58:34,210 --> 00:58:38,760 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 79896

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