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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,781 --> 00:00:38,080 We must adjust to changing times... 2 00:00:44,825 --> 00:00:48,022 ...execute the office of President of the United States... 3 00:01:36,042 --> 00:01:38,909 I challenge a new generation of young Americans... 4 00:02:05,405 --> 00:02:07,896 My biggest fantasy when I was a kid 5 00:02:07,941 --> 00:02:11,001 was that I would go to see my favorite band play, 6 00:02:11,077 --> 00:02:13,671 and someone would come out and say, 7 00:02:13,713 --> 00:02:18,241 "Sorry, the band can't play tonight, their drummer broke his fuckin' leg. 8 00:02:18,285 --> 00:02:20,276 "Unless there's someone that knows all the songs..." 9 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,812 Then, of course, I would jump up and be the greatest drummer in the world. 10 00:02:23,890 --> 00:02:25,687 I fantasized about that. 11 00:02:31,298 --> 00:02:33,994 With Nirvana, the process of making the music 12 00:02:34,034 --> 00:02:37,697 was so entirely simple and pure and real. 13 00:02:37,737 --> 00:02:41,036 Kurt was a great lyricist, he had a beautiful voice, 14 00:02:41,107 --> 00:02:44,099 and he wrote really simple songs. 15 00:02:44,144 --> 00:02:48,308 There were things I learned about songwriting from being in a band with Kurt 16 00:02:48,348 --> 00:02:51,317 that I don't think anyone else could have taught me. 17 00:03:02,462 --> 00:03:04,225 That record, Nevermind, came out 18 00:03:04,264 --> 00:03:07,756 almost a year to the day after I had joined the band. 19 00:03:08,635 --> 00:03:11,160 This song is called Smells Like Teen Spirit. 20 00:03:11,204 --> 00:03:12,933 Before Dave had joined the band, 21 00:03:12,973 --> 00:03:18,138 there was a message on my answering machine from Kurt, saying, 22 00:03:18,178 --> 00:03:22,615 "Butch! We have the best drummer in the world! He's the greatest drummer in the world. 23 00:03:22,649 --> 00:03:27,143 "I'm not kidding you. He's awesome, dude!" And he hung up. 24 00:03:27,187 --> 00:03:30,953 About a week later we were in LA and I walked into a rehearsal space with him. 25 00:03:30,991 --> 00:03:34,188 And Dave walked up - skinny, long hair... 26 00:03:34,227 --> 00:03:37,196 "Hey, man, I'm Dave. Nice to meet you." He was just full of energy. 27 00:03:37,230 --> 00:03:40,597 I was like, "Let's play. Play me some songs, you guys." 28 00:03:40,634 --> 00:03:42,659 And they played Teen Spirit. 29 00:03:42,702 --> 00:03:44,101 Dave did the... 30 00:03:45,105 --> 00:03:46,663 ...and it just floored me. 31 00:03:55,849 --> 00:03:58,079 Of course, everybody was telling the band 32 00:03:58,118 --> 00:04:00,848 that they thought we were great, 33 00:04:00,887 --> 00:04:03,253 but I don't think the three of us ever believed 34 00:04:03,290 --> 00:04:05,781 a word of anything anyone was telling us. 35 00:04:05,825 --> 00:04:10,489 We never thought we were gonna sell a million records. 36 00:04:11,364 --> 00:04:15,664 None of us had any idea that it was gonna completely change my life and their lives. 37 00:04:15,702 --> 00:04:19,604 But I knew that they sounded really tight and pretty focused, 38 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:22,574 and that they had written some amazingly powerful songs. 39 00:04:27,814 --> 00:04:29,406 We knew something was happening 40 00:04:29,449 --> 00:04:32,543 because the atmosphere of the gigs just changed. 41 00:04:32,586 --> 00:04:37,922 They went from being cool, hipster, underground people in a club 42 00:04:37,958 --> 00:04:41,621 to, like... jocks were coming to the show. 43 00:04:41,661 --> 00:04:43,288 That was the first thing, like, 44 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:45,821 "Oh my God, there's jocks here," you know? 45 00:04:45,865 --> 00:04:48,425 "That's kind of strange. They like our music? 46 00:04:48,468 --> 00:04:51,699 "You used to kick my fucking ass for listening to this music." 47 00:05:15,395 --> 00:05:18,262 I was a really big fan of Nirvana, like everybody else, 48 00:05:18,298 --> 00:05:21,290 and I happened to be reading an interview with Kurt 49 00:05:21,334 --> 00:05:22,699 where he had mentioned, 50 00:05:22,736 --> 00:05:26,934 Nirvana was always meant to be a four-piece, a two-guitar band. 51 00:05:26,973 --> 00:05:31,307 It was never meant to be a three-piece. I thought, "Oh, well that's my in." 52 00:05:41,988 --> 00:05:45,754 Pat is from this legendary punk rock band called the Germs 53 00:05:45,792 --> 00:05:47,589 that we all grew up listening to. 54 00:05:47,627 --> 00:05:50,755 There was no one more badass than the Germs. 55 00:05:50,797 --> 00:05:52,594 Germs didn't give a fuck. 56 00:05:57,404 --> 00:06:00,430 So Pat shows up in Seattle, and all of us were just like, 57 00:06:00,507 --> 00:06:03,203 "Oh my God, hey, it's Pat Smear from the Germs. 58 00:06:04,511 --> 00:06:06,103 "He's alive?" 59 00:06:06,146 --> 00:06:08,410 So now Nirvana is hitting the big halls, 60 00:06:08,448 --> 00:06:11,679 with guitarist Pat Smear helping to make the loud louder. 61 00:06:11,718 --> 00:06:15,415 The day before the first rehearsal I saw my picture on MTV News, saying, 62 00:06:15,455 --> 00:06:18,219 "Nirvana has a new guitar player, Pat Smear." 63 00:06:18,258 --> 00:06:20,556 I was like, "My God, it's real! There it is!" 64 00:06:28,435 --> 00:06:32,166 I don't think Kurt wanted to be a huge fuckin' rock star. 65 00:06:32,205 --> 00:06:37,370 And I don't think he could handle how complicated it had all become. 66 00:06:43,883 --> 00:06:48,877 No one was very happy with the tour, or the band. 67 00:06:49,422 --> 00:06:50,855 So Kurt decided he wants a break, 68 00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:53,188 even though we're on this tour you can't get out of, 69 00:06:53,226 --> 00:06:55,194 because you're a big band and you get sued. 70 00:06:55,228 --> 00:07:00,291 We had, like, a week and a half off in between two legs of the tour. 71 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:03,029 I decided to fly home. 72 00:07:03,069 --> 00:07:09,372 And Kurt went to Rome, where he was meeting Courtney Love, his wife. 73 00:07:12,979 --> 00:07:14,947 Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren, with MTV News. 74 00:07:14,981 --> 00:07:17,006 Nirvana front man Kurt Cobain 75 00:07:17,050 --> 00:07:21,111 was hospitalized in a coma in Rome, Italy on Friday morning... 76 00:07:21,154 --> 00:07:28,788 I turn on the TV, and Kurt was being wheeled away in an ambulance in Rome. 77 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:35,862 I went to the hospital with him, and I didn't know what to do, because I thought, 78 00:07:35,902 --> 00:07:39,497 "Do I say, this is Kurt Cobain, take care of him right away, VIP," 79 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,835 or do I say, "This is just some guy, don't call the press"? 80 00:07:43,877 --> 00:07:50,544 I finally went with, "This is Kurt Cobain, VIP. Do something about it." 81 00:07:52,719 --> 00:07:55,620 Nirvana spokespeople reported encouraging signs, 82 00:07:55,655 --> 00:07:58,647 saying they've been told Kurt Cobain was responding to his name, 83 00:07:58,691 --> 00:08:01,216 opening his eyes, and squeezing his wife's hand. 84 00:08:01,895 --> 00:08:05,524 When he came home, I remember talking to him on the phone, 85 00:08:05,565 --> 00:08:11,902 and saying, "Hey man, I don't want you to die, OK?" 86 00:08:13,072 --> 00:08:17,270 And he was very apologetic, "No, I'm sorry, it was a big mistake. 87 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:21,076 "I took these pills, I was drinking this champagne and I was in Rome... 88 00:08:22,182 --> 00:08:26,084 "It was, just a... just made a mistake." 89 00:08:30,490 --> 00:08:33,789 It was really sad. I had a message from Kurt, but I wasn't home. 90 00:08:33,860 --> 00:08:37,193 And so whatever help he needed from me, I couldn't help him. 91 00:08:38,665 --> 00:08:41,759 And that was the last time I ever talked to him or saw him. 92 00:09:13,466 --> 00:09:16,492 When I found out that he had killed himself... 93 00:09:17,437 --> 00:09:19,428 I was kind of numb. 94 00:09:22,041 --> 00:09:24,601 I knew that it... 95 00:09:25,745 --> 00:09:30,648 He was gone, but I didn't know how to feel. 96 00:09:32,218 --> 00:09:35,210 Kurt Cobain, a sweet and gifted man, dead at the age of 27. 97 00:09:35,255 --> 00:09:38,349 To Courtney Love, one-year-old Frances Bean Cobain, 98 00:09:38,391 --> 00:09:41,155 Dave Grohl, Kris Novoselic and Pat Smear, our deepest sympathies. 99 00:09:50,536 --> 00:09:52,401 Everybody knew Kurt was in a bad way, 100 00:09:52,438 --> 00:09:55,532 but that's something you never expect to happen. 101 00:09:55,575 --> 00:09:57,440 When someone is that down and out 102 00:09:57,477 --> 00:10:01,641 you still can't comprehend that they're actually gonna commit suicide. 103 00:10:01,681 --> 00:10:03,148 It was terrible. 104 00:10:18,031 --> 00:10:23,492 After Kurt died, I didn't wanna play music. I didn't wanna play the drums. 105 00:10:24,237 --> 00:10:27,070 When Kurt died, it wasn't just that my friend died. 106 00:10:27,106 --> 00:10:31,770 It was my whole life kinda died around it and with him, you know? 107 00:10:31,811 --> 00:10:35,303 And I quit the music business. 108 00:10:42,488 --> 00:10:45,685 At some point, I was finally motivated. 109 00:10:45,725 --> 00:10:49,525 "I'm gonna get myself out of this funk I've been in for the last eight months." 110 00:10:49,595 --> 00:10:51,563 Or whatever it was, you know? 111 00:10:51,597 --> 00:10:55,931 I decided that I was gonna take my favorite songs 112 00:10:55,969 --> 00:10:59,598 that I'd written over the last four or five years that no one had heard... 113 00:11:00,473 --> 00:11:04,068 and I was going to record them... 114 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:07,443 ...at a 24-track studio down the street from my house. 115 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,440 And it was really exciting, because I was doing it totally by myself. 116 00:11:12,485 --> 00:11:16,922 I didn't know why I was doing it. I just wanted to do something, you know? 117 00:11:16,956 --> 00:11:18,981 So I booked a week at the studio, 118 00:11:19,025 --> 00:11:24,088 and at the end of the week, I had a cassette, and it sounded good. 119 00:11:24,130 --> 00:11:27,099 And I started thinking, "I won't put my name on it. 120 00:11:27,133 --> 00:11:29,431 "People will imagine it's just a band. 121 00:11:29,469 --> 00:11:31,937 "They won't know it's the guy from Nirvana." 122 00:11:38,111 --> 00:11:41,512 In the middle of that session, I get a call at the studio 123 00:11:41,547 --> 00:11:45,745 that Tom Petty wants me to come play drums for him on Saturday Night Live. 124 00:11:50,156 --> 00:11:53,489 I just thought, "Oh my God, he's a hero of mine." 125 00:11:53,526 --> 00:11:59,294 And I had the opportunity to join the band if I wanted to join the band. 126 00:11:59,332 --> 00:12:02,130 I really had to kind of choose. 127 00:12:02,168 --> 00:12:08,801 Was I going to play drums with Tom Petty, or was I gonna start over from scratch 128 00:12:08,875 --> 00:12:11,935 and be the lead singer and guitar player of a band, 129 00:12:11,978 --> 00:12:17,143 do something I'd never done before, that I was terrified doing? 130 00:12:17,183 --> 00:12:19,981 Believe me, it was not easy to tell Tom Petty 131 00:12:20,019 --> 00:12:22,385 that I wasn't going to be his drummer. 132 00:12:22,422 --> 00:12:24,947 It was not an easy decision to make. 133 00:12:24,991 --> 00:12:29,928 I can still see my hand just putting the phone down, 134 00:12:29,962 --> 00:12:34,228 and thinking, "OK, let's see what happens." 135 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:44,405 There was a band in Seattle called Sunny Day Real Estate. 136 00:12:44,444 --> 00:12:46,605 And a good friend of mine told me 137 00:12:46,646 --> 00:12:50,082 that Sunny Day Real Estate were playing a show, 138 00:12:50,116 --> 00:12:53,051 and it was gonna be their last show because they were breaking up. 139 00:12:53,086 --> 00:12:54,485 My band was falling apart 140 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,184 about the same time that Dave found himself without a band. 141 00:12:59,225 --> 00:13:01,523 We were broken up while we were doing the tour. 142 00:13:01,561 --> 00:13:03,290 We decided we weren't gonna do it anymore, 143 00:13:03,329 --> 00:13:05,729 but had already booked this tour, so we were like, 144 00:13:05,765 --> 00:13:08,199 "This will be the last thing we do." 145 00:13:08,234 --> 00:13:11,795 It was ironic because that was the first tour that we were playing shows 146 00:13:11,838 --> 00:13:15,365 where people were actually showing up. We were like, "Oh, well!" 147 00:13:15,408 --> 00:13:18,002 I went to the show to see them play, 148 00:13:18,044 --> 00:13:21,707 knowing it was probably the last time anyone was gonna see them play. 149 00:13:21,747 --> 00:13:25,843 And I was watching them thinking, "That's a really good rhythm section." 150 00:13:31,424 --> 00:13:33,289 I gave them the cassette, thinking, 151 00:13:33,326 --> 00:13:36,591 "Hey, check it out. Maybe we could jam sometime." 152 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:39,826 Dave was the first famous person I'd ever met. 153 00:13:39,866 --> 00:13:44,235 He was just out of Nirvana, you know, like, that was a very big deal. 154 00:13:50,276 --> 00:13:54,372 I remember the first time that Nate and William and I got together to jam. 155 00:13:54,413 --> 00:13:57,314 It was over at William's parents' house. 156 00:13:57,350 --> 00:14:00,410 I remember going up to William's parents' kitchen 157 00:14:00,453 --> 00:14:02,751 and sitting there after we played, 158 00:14:02,788 --> 00:14:06,519 and Dave just goes, "You guys wanna be in the band?" 159 00:14:07,460 --> 00:14:09,018 And I was like, "Hell yeah!" 160 00:14:09,061 --> 00:14:12,087 Playing in front of people was very difficult for me. 161 00:14:12,131 --> 00:14:14,224 I did have a conversation with Dave 162 00:14:14,267 --> 00:14:16,929 and I said, "I don't think that I should do it." 163 00:14:17,470 --> 00:14:21,600 Dave said, "That's exactly why you're the guy that has to do it." 164 00:14:21,641 --> 00:14:26,010 I don't know what that meant but that convinced me, I guess. 165 00:14:32,318 --> 00:14:36,049 After that rehearsal, Dave brings up that he wants a second guitar player, 166 00:14:36,088 --> 00:14:37,453 and thinks it should be Pat Smear, 167 00:14:37,490 --> 00:14:41,483 who William and I knew from him having played in Nirvana and the Germs. 168 00:14:41,527 --> 00:14:45,327 Then Dave came over, and he gave me a cassette. 169 00:14:45,364 --> 00:14:48,663 I listened to that whole tape, just front to end, 170 00:14:48,701 --> 00:14:50,328 and I thought it was all great. 171 00:14:50,369 --> 00:14:54,533 I didn't have anything against Pat. I didn't know him as a musician or as a person. 172 00:14:54,574 --> 00:14:56,235 But he lived in Los Angeles, 173 00:14:56,275 --> 00:14:59,176 and I just thought that was fucking crazy. 174 00:14:59,212 --> 00:15:02,238 The way I'd grown up, you were in a band with your friend from school 175 00:15:02,281 --> 00:15:03,270 that you saw every day. 176 00:15:03,316 --> 00:15:05,750 You'd go home after school and get together 177 00:15:05,785 --> 00:15:08,913 at somebody's mom's house or basement and work it out. 178 00:15:08,955 --> 00:15:11,583 You can't do that if the guy lives in Los Angeles. 179 00:15:11,657 --> 00:15:15,559 Pat came up, we played, and he was perfect, 180 00:15:15,595 --> 00:15:18,792 so I got over that "Him living in LA" thing. 181 00:15:19,699 --> 00:15:22,634 I might have talked to him about trying to move to Seattle. 182 00:15:23,469 --> 00:15:26,927 All of us came from bands that ended prematurely. 183 00:15:26,973 --> 00:15:29,168 We didn't really talk about our former bands. 184 00:15:29,208 --> 00:15:32,143 For me, it was always kind of a touchy subject. 185 00:15:32,178 --> 00:15:35,477 At this point in time, Kurt had only been dead for a year, 186 00:15:36,349 --> 00:15:38,510 and I didn't wanna talk about it. 187 00:15:38,551 --> 00:15:40,849 So we all entered into this new band 188 00:15:40,886 --> 00:15:44,378 like it was helping us get through the loss 189 00:15:44,423 --> 00:15:46,357 of the bands we'd been in before. 190 00:15:46,392 --> 00:15:47,984 I remember it really vividly, 191 00:15:48,027 --> 00:15:50,587 Dave saying, like, "Let's have it be fun. 192 00:15:50,630 --> 00:15:52,598 "Let's have things be out in the open. 193 00:15:52,632 --> 00:15:54,725 "Let's talk about shit. Just no drama." 194 00:15:54,767 --> 00:15:57,827 He was like, "I don't want it to be a stressful thing. 195 00:15:57,903 --> 00:16:01,737 "We're not gonna tour into the ground." And... 196 00:16:01,774 --> 00:16:02,832 Which I was glad about. 197 00:16:10,716 --> 00:16:12,240 The first tour that we did, 198 00:16:12,285 --> 00:16:15,379 was with a musician named Mike Watt. 199 00:16:15,421 --> 00:16:18,948 He is a legendary punk rock bass player. 200 00:16:21,961 --> 00:16:24,725 And he asked me if I would tour with him. 201 00:16:24,764 --> 00:16:27,961 And I said, "Yeah, man. How about this? 202 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,030 "I'll be in your band if my band can open up on tour." 203 00:16:35,207 --> 00:16:40,110 And Eddie Vedder, from Pearl Jam, had done the same thing. 204 00:16:40,146 --> 00:16:41,807 And we said, "Cool, 205 00:16:41,847 --> 00:16:44,975 "Let's put together a tour where Eddie's other band, 206 00:16:45,017 --> 00:16:48,418 "they were called Hovercraft, my band - Foo Fighters, 207 00:16:48,454 --> 00:16:52,447 "would open up for Watt, and we would all be his band." 208 00:16:53,092 --> 00:16:58,052 It was just this, like, revolving cast of musicians. 209 00:16:58,097 --> 00:17:00,657 Each song would have a different line-up. 210 00:17:07,073 --> 00:17:10,304 Instead of getting a bus for the first tour... "We'll get a van." 211 00:17:10,343 --> 00:17:15,007 I'd never done a bus tour, so to me it was totally obvious, "Yeah, we'll get a van. 212 00:17:15,047 --> 00:17:19,450 "What, we get to buy a brand new one? Ha! Awesome!" 213 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:33,962 We played six shows a week, 214 00:17:33,999 --> 00:17:38,698 and the places held maybe anywhere from 300 to 600 people, 215 00:17:38,738 --> 00:17:42,834 and Foo Fighters were making 500 bucks a night or something like that. 216 00:17:48,647 --> 00:17:51,844 As the tour was going on, the venues were getting bigger, 217 00:17:51,884 --> 00:17:57,117 and we started having that really nice but weird sort of pressure. 218 00:18:18,077 --> 00:18:23,071 There was a lot of attention, because it was Dave's first tour after Nirvana. 219 00:18:23,115 --> 00:18:27,609 The shows had all of these Nirvana fans that came. 220 00:18:27,653 --> 00:18:30,645 They didn't know the songs because the record hadn't been out yet. 221 00:18:30,689 --> 00:18:34,022 So there was a song called Marigold by Nirvana, 222 00:18:34,059 --> 00:18:36,289 that Dave had written and sang on. 223 00:18:36,328 --> 00:18:39,661 It was the only thing they knew to yell out when we were playing. 224 00:18:39,698 --> 00:18:42,166 So you'd just hear, "Marigold!" 225 00:18:42,201 --> 00:18:44,761 Marigold! Marigold! Marigold! 226 00:18:47,473 --> 00:18:49,134 Shut up! 227 00:18:49,175 --> 00:18:50,437 And we never played it. 228 00:18:50,476 --> 00:18:52,706 How weird that must have been for Dave. 229 00:18:52,745 --> 00:18:54,235 Arriving in record stores Tuesday 230 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,306 was one of the most buzzed-about new releases of the year, 231 00:18:57,349 --> 00:19:02,082 the self-titled debut album by Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl's new band, Foo Fighters, 232 00:19:02,121 --> 00:19:04,589 who wowed crowds on Mike Watt's recent club tour. 233 00:19:04,623 --> 00:19:08,491 Personally, to me, it was a big deal when that record came out, 234 00:19:08,527 --> 00:19:14,261 because rather than go in and record something as a band, 235 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,894 we used the stuff I had recorded on my own. 236 00:19:17,536 --> 00:19:20,994 That cassette. That's the first record. 237 00:19:27,012 --> 00:19:30,379 Making their network television debut right here with us, 238 00:19:30,416 --> 00:19:33,408 we couldn't be happier, ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters. 239 00:19:49,001 --> 00:19:50,525 Hi, Jena! 240 00:19:56,342 --> 00:19:57,707 And the winner is... 241 00:19:57,743 --> 00:19:59,540 Foo Fighters, Big Me. 242 00:20:06,585 --> 00:20:10,783 I would like to think of this award as some sort of closure, it's... 243 00:20:10,823 --> 00:20:15,453 Stop throwing Mentos at us at our shows. That's what I'm trying to say. 244 00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:33,501 There were lots of interviews and, you know, 245 00:20:33,546 --> 00:20:35,673 Dave not wanting to talk about Nirvana. 246 00:20:35,714 --> 00:20:38,649 Every question in every interview was about Nirvana. 247 00:20:38,684 --> 00:20:43,348 You can imagine what they were, like, "Is this song about Kurt?" 248 00:20:43,389 --> 00:20:46,825 Take any song from the record. "Is that song about Kurt Cobain?" 249 00:20:55,367 --> 00:20:58,996 What's it like to be at a press conference and not be asked any questions? 250 00:20:59,038 --> 00:21:01,506 Fine with me, because I didn't wanna answer 251 00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:03,405 any of the questions that were asked. 252 00:21:09,715 --> 00:21:14,084 There were some people that really resented me for starting this band. 253 00:21:14,653 --> 00:21:17,622 "How dare you fucking start another band." 254 00:21:17,656 --> 00:21:21,786 They asked me, like, "Why did you decide to carry on 255 00:21:21,827 --> 00:21:24,091 "and make music that sounds like Nirvana?" 256 00:21:24,129 --> 00:21:25,824 I said, "Well, wait a minute. 257 00:21:25,864 --> 00:21:29,630 "What do you mean, like loud rock guitars and melodies 258 00:21:29,668 --> 00:21:34,662 "and cymbals crashing and big-ass drums? 259 00:21:36,442 --> 00:21:38,205 "'Cause that's what I do. 260 00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:43,840 "That's... I was in that band and this is, like... That's what I do. 261 00:21:43,882 --> 00:21:46,248 "You want me to fuckin' make a reggae record?" 262 00:21:47,052 --> 00:21:49,145 The first couple years, 263 00:21:49,188 --> 00:21:52,419 I really felt like I had to explain and defend what I was doing, 264 00:21:52,458 --> 00:21:55,325 because, first of all, "You're just a drummer. 265 00:21:55,361 --> 00:21:57,420 "And, what, you're trying to sing? 266 00:21:57,463 --> 00:22:01,763 "And also, you were in Nirvana, so what the fuck is this shit?" 267 00:22:02,868 --> 00:22:06,964 So there's a... You just get to the point where you just think, 268 00:22:08,907 --> 00:22:10,670 "Fuck you people." 269 00:22:43,742 --> 00:22:46,506 I wasn't sure what was gonna happen. "Can Dave write more songs? 270 00:22:46,545 --> 00:22:50,606 "How is the writing process gonna work? Will we suck?" 271 00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:53,174 I had no idea. "Does this band have a future?" 272 00:22:53,218 --> 00:22:56,153 I knew we were gonna be OK and be able to continue 273 00:22:56,188 --> 00:22:59,521 after I heard the song My Hero, 'cause it was great. 274 00:23:12,004 --> 00:23:15,269 There were some songs that we just started writing 275 00:23:15,307 --> 00:23:16,865 and throwing into the set. 276 00:23:16,909 --> 00:23:20,936 There were only a couple songs that we had that were really good openers. 277 00:23:23,682 --> 00:23:26,674 I thought, "God, I need to write an opening song for us." 278 00:23:26,752 --> 00:23:30,188 In Europe and in England, when bands play 279 00:23:30,222 --> 00:23:33,453 the audience don't beat the shit out of each other like they do in America. 280 00:23:33,492 --> 00:23:36,052 They do this bounce, right? Everybody bounces. 281 00:23:36,095 --> 00:23:37,960 So I wanted to write a song 282 00:23:37,996 --> 00:23:40,328 that everyone would start bouncing to 283 00:23:40,365 --> 00:23:42,560 when we first came out and played. 284 00:23:42,601 --> 00:23:46,162 So I had a melody and a riff idea, but I didn't know the tempo. 285 00:23:46,205 --> 00:23:51,404 So I jumped up and down, and I found a tempo by, like, bouncing. 286 00:23:51,443 --> 00:23:53,411 The tempo should be this... 287 00:23:57,616 --> 00:24:01,382 I wrote the song, brought it to sound check, said, "I have this new song. 288 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:05,618 "Let's learn it, so we can open with it tomorrow night or tonight." 289 00:24:05,657 --> 00:24:07,352 We sound checked, ran through it, 290 00:24:07,392 --> 00:24:11,226 the next night we opened with that song, the audience was going... 291 00:24:11,263 --> 00:24:12,457 It worked. 292 00:24:27,446 --> 00:24:30,108 It's like, "Wow, cool. Let's keep it." 293 00:25:15,961 --> 00:25:20,489 We played, like, 18,000 shows in one year. 294 00:25:20,532 --> 00:25:23,558 I'm exaggerating, but it felt like. 295 00:25:24,069 --> 00:25:25,730 Then we just toured a lot! 296 00:25:29,241 --> 00:25:31,607 Pat was keeping track, Pat was always... 297 00:25:31,643 --> 00:25:36,205 Every other day he'd look at me and be like, "12 months. 13 months. 16 months." 298 00:25:36,248 --> 00:25:37,875 I was just like... 299 00:25:37,916 --> 00:25:41,682 I remember each time he would tell me I'd be like, "No fuckin' way!" 300 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,745 We've been on tour for so long. 301 00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:45,916 We've been a band for almost a year now, 302 00:25:45,958 --> 00:25:50,657 and I'd say about seven months out of that year has been spent on the road. 303 00:25:50,696 --> 00:25:54,792 I wasn't some kid who was just like, "Yeah!" at that point. 304 00:25:54,833 --> 00:25:59,327 It was just kind of like, you know... I'm older and I'm lazier... 305 00:25:59,371 --> 00:26:00,599 What? 306 00:26:00,639 --> 00:26:04,735 ...and still I'm playing the same 20 songs 2 or 300 nights a year. 307 00:26:04,776 --> 00:26:06,403 This song's called For All The Cows. 308 00:26:06,445 --> 00:26:08,811 This song is called For All The Cows. 309 00:26:08,847 --> 00:26:09,905 It's called For All The Cows. 310 00:26:09,948 --> 00:26:12,280 This one's called For All The Cows. 311 00:26:12,317 --> 00:26:15,115 This song is called For All The Cows. 312 00:26:57,596 --> 00:27:00,997 The second album that we made - The Colour And The Shape, 313 00:27:01,033 --> 00:27:03,866 we decided to work with this producer named Gil Norton. 314 00:27:03,902 --> 00:27:08,601 And Gil, at the time, was famous for making the Pixies records. 315 00:27:15,414 --> 00:27:17,405 This was my first real recording process. 316 00:27:17,449 --> 00:27:19,212 Now there's a producer, 317 00:27:19,251 --> 00:27:23,745 someone who's not just pressing play but actually is saying, like, 318 00:27:23,789 --> 00:27:27,384 "I think that should be a C. And you should also play it in time." 319 00:27:27,426 --> 00:27:33,228 We went into the studio with Gil and he worked us hard, real hard. 320 00:27:33,265 --> 00:27:37,292 I was fucking terrible. And William was having his own challenges. 321 00:27:37,336 --> 00:27:42,171 Gil called Nate and I the "rhythmless section". So that was encouraging. 322 00:27:42,207 --> 00:27:45,233 I could tell, when I had to do something a million times, 323 00:27:45,277 --> 00:27:47,245 that it was taking longer than I wanted, 324 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,611 and it was my first realization - 325 00:27:49,648 --> 00:27:53,414 "I'm not a fully-formed musician. I've got to keep getting better." 326 00:27:53,452 --> 00:27:56,216 Constantly, there was this feeling that, 327 00:27:56,254 --> 00:27:59,621 whatever song we were working on, Dave had a drum... 328 00:27:59,658 --> 00:28:02,183 a drum part for it already, 329 00:28:02,227 --> 00:28:03,626 in his head or whatever. 330 00:28:03,662 --> 00:28:09,828 When I've written a song, I have kind of a clear idea 331 00:28:09,868 --> 00:28:15,670 of where the basic root accents should lie. 332 00:28:15,707 --> 00:28:17,868 That's a fancy way of saying, 333 00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:20,844 I know what the drums should sound like 334 00:28:20,879 --> 00:28:23,746 in my head as I'm doing this thing. 335 00:28:24,516 --> 00:28:26,677 That's not necessarily fair 336 00:28:26,718 --> 00:28:28,948 to say that as a songwriter, you know, 337 00:28:28,987 --> 00:28:31,387 who's collaborating with other musicians. 338 00:28:31,423 --> 00:28:34,153 You're the drummer for a band 339 00:28:34,192 --> 00:28:37,059 where your singer is the greatest rock 'n' roll drummer in the world, 340 00:28:37,095 --> 00:28:40,189 looking over your shoulder waiting for you to do it as good as him. 341 00:28:40,232 --> 00:28:42,325 That's just fucked-up pressure. 342 00:28:42,367 --> 00:28:46,360 Regardless of how good you are, that's just fucked-up pressure. 343 00:28:46,405 --> 00:28:49,897 And remember that William was a kid. He was really young. 344 00:28:49,941 --> 00:28:53,604 I think that William played the best that he could. 345 00:28:53,678 --> 00:28:57,671 And sometimes it was great, and sometimes it wasn't. 346 00:28:57,716 --> 00:29:03,211 What sucked about all that was, you know... 347 00:29:03,255 --> 00:29:05,519 I don't think the drum performances were the best. 348 00:29:05,557 --> 00:29:08,048 They didn't... They weren't horrible. 349 00:29:08,093 --> 00:29:13,998 If I listen to a song and I don't think it has the thing that it needs, 350 00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:19,427 it's not necessarily gonna get past me and get on an album. 351 00:29:22,574 --> 00:29:26,874 We left Seattle, and went to Los Angeles to a different studio 352 00:29:26,912 --> 00:29:28,311 to finish this thing up. 353 00:29:28,346 --> 00:29:30,007 And Dave comes in, he's like, 354 00:29:30,048 --> 00:29:32,175 "Listen, we're gonna redo..." 355 00:29:33,518 --> 00:29:35,986 "My Poor Brain." Or whatever the song is. 356 00:29:36,021 --> 00:29:39,821 "Drum track's not quite right. Actually, I'm doing the drums on this one. 357 00:29:39,858 --> 00:29:41,792 "We're just gonna redo it." 358 00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:44,591 William's up in Seattle at this point in time. 359 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:49,264 They'd call me down and say, "We need you to come play guitar on a song." 360 00:29:49,301 --> 00:29:53,670 And I'd go down and I'd be like, "Well, I already played this song." 361 00:29:53,738 --> 00:29:57,765 "Well, we did it over." "Oh, OK." 362 00:29:58,777 --> 00:30:00,836 You know, do it again. 363 00:30:00,879 --> 00:30:04,144 I'd go home, then I'd get called again, "Come down and play." 364 00:30:04,182 --> 00:30:06,582 I'm like, "All right, cool. Let's do it." 365 00:30:06,618 --> 00:30:09,678 "I already played this song!" It just kept happening. 366 00:30:09,754 --> 00:30:11,449 "What the fuck is going on here?" 367 00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:13,788 And this happens three or four times, 368 00:30:13,825 --> 00:30:16,658 like, "Hey, we're gonna try this one again." 369 00:30:16,695 --> 00:30:21,029 It ended up like, "Wait a minute. We're just doing this whole album over." 370 00:30:21,066 --> 00:30:23,626 I remember asking, "Does William know?" 371 00:30:23,668 --> 00:30:27,297 William's still up in Seattle, so he doesn't know what's going on 372 00:30:27,339 --> 00:30:29,000 and that this is happening. 373 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,535 And I'm stressing pretty hard because that's gonna be a big problem. 374 00:30:34,579 --> 00:30:36,240 I was like, "What's going on? 375 00:30:36,281 --> 00:30:39,079 "Should I book a flight? I should be down there." 376 00:30:39,117 --> 00:30:42,484 Dave calls me, like, "Don't come down here." I was like, "Why?" 377 00:30:42,521 --> 00:30:47,481 He goes, "I'm redoing a couple of drum tracks." I was like..."Whoa. OK." 378 00:30:47,526 --> 00:30:49,494 And I met with Nate. 379 00:30:50,629 --> 00:30:54,190 I said, "What's going on? Dave's redoing a couple of the tracks?" 380 00:30:54,232 --> 00:30:56,029 He goes, "Is that what he told you?" 381 00:30:56,067 --> 00:30:58,058 I said, "Yeah." He goes, "He redid 'em all." 382 00:30:58,103 --> 00:31:02,437 The conversation that I eventually had with William 383 00:31:02,474 --> 00:31:08,106 was that I really wanted him to stay in the band, 384 00:31:08,146 --> 00:31:10,637 and I really wanted him to be the drummer... 385 00:31:11,516 --> 00:31:12,710 but... 386 00:31:13,952 --> 00:31:16,921 I was gonna play drums on the record. 387 00:31:16,955 --> 00:31:19,355 I don't know whether it was management, 388 00:31:19,391 --> 00:31:22,952 the record company, Gil, all of the above, Dave, 389 00:31:22,994 --> 00:31:26,657 that wanted him to play drums and didn't want me to play drums, 390 00:31:26,698 --> 00:31:33,297 but him redoing the drum parts has never been explained to me. 391 00:31:33,338 --> 00:31:35,169 It's a tough thing to talk about, 392 00:31:35,207 --> 00:31:39,701 because I know that William will never forgive me 393 00:31:39,744 --> 00:31:41,837 for playing drums on that record. 394 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,316 I know it. And I wish things were different. 395 00:31:46,518 --> 00:31:49,715 But I felt like this is what I had to do 396 00:31:49,754 --> 00:31:51,847 in order to make this album happen. 397 00:31:51,890 --> 00:31:56,384 We talked and Dave said, "I still want you to tour the record." 398 00:31:56,461 --> 00:32:01,091 And I was just like, "Dude, I mean, I have to, you know... 399 00:32:01,132 --> 00:32:03,396 "As it is now, I have to rebuild my soul, 400 00:32:03,435 --> 00:32:05,733 "or refind it, if you know what I mean. 401 00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:08,364 "If I do that, it's like, 'see ya'. 402 00:32:08,406 --> 00:32:11,341 "So... thanks but no thanks." 403 00:32:12,978 --> 00:32:18,041 It was a really weird time, and I was young. 404 00:32:19,684 --> 00:32:20,946 What the fuck? 405 00:32:32,998 --> 00:32:35,228 I heard on the radio... 406 00:32:35,267 --> 00:32:38,634 "Foo Fighters drummer has left the band." 407 00:32:40,572 --> 00:32:42,301 I was like, "Whoa! Really? 408 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:45,070 "I wonder if they have a drummer yet?" 409 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:49,274 I remember vividly my brother saying, "You should be in this band." 410 00:32:49,314 --> 00:32:53,148 I was like, "Well, fuck, yeah, that'd be great, wouldn't it? 411 00:32:53,184 --> 00:32:58,019 "I would love to have been in the Who, Jane's Addiction and Led Zeppelin too." 412 00:33:06,331 --> 00:33:10,631 Around that time, Taylor Hawkins was playing drums with Alanis Morissette. 413 00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:13,035 And she was blowing up. 414 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,636 I'd seen him play before, and there's no question the dude's a monster on the drums. 415 00:33:19,678 --> 00:33:24,945 It's funny, 'cause back there's Taylor just fuckin' like... Just fuckin' killing it. 416 00:33:24,983 --> 00:33:26,007 Like, "Oh my God!" 417 00:33:26,051 --> 00:33:31,421 We all loved Taylor, but he was in a band, the biggest band around at the time. 418 00:33:31,456 --> 00:33:34,789 We were kind of in a pinch. We had just recorded this record, 419 00:33:34,826 --> 00:33:37,420 and we had to go out and start doing shit. 420 00:33:37,962 --> 00:33:41,955 So Dave calls him up, like, "Hey, man, do you know any good drummers?" 421 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,403 I was like, "Yeah. I'll be your fuckin' drummer! Let me try out." 422 00:33:46,438 --> 00:33:50,738 I remember saying to Taylor, "You realize we're not as big as Alanis Morissette?" 423 00:33:50,775 --> 00:33:53,801 I'm like, "I know, but I wanna be in a band. 424 00:33:53,845 --> 00:33:56,905 "I wanna be part of something like that." So he said, 425 00:33:56,948 --> 00:34:02,784 "Well, if you try out, and if we jam and... You have to be in the band." 426 00:34:02,821 --> 00:34:06,313 Dave called me like, "Remember Taylor?" I'm like, "Oh yeah." 427 00:34:06,391 --> 00:34:12,352 He's like, "Yeah, I think he'd be the drummer." And I reacted poorly to that. 428 00:34:12,397 --> 00:34:16,629 I was hanging out with Dave and me and him were bouncing off the walls, 429 00:34:16,668 --> 00:34:20,502 and Nate was going, "Oh no, not another one of these fuckin' guys. 430 00:34:20,538 --> 00:34:22,768 "I can't take two spazzes in one band." 431 00:34:22,807 --> 00:34:26,004 I didn't think our personalities were compatible. 432 00:34:26,044 --> 00:34:30,606 He's just this, like, outgoing Southern California surfer dude. 433 00:34:30,648 --> 00:34:32,673 Say somethin' funny. 434 00:34:32,717 --> 00:34:34,685 I don't know anything funny. 435 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,155 I just came from a different world. I was like, "That guy... 436 00:34:38,189 --> 00:34:42,148 "He is not a guy I'm gonna be in a band with. No way." 437 00:34:42,193 --> 00:34:44,161 It's like, "He's really good." 438 00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:46,458 "OK." 439 00:34:53,538 --> 00:34:56,530 - I hear you got a new drummer? - Got a new drummer. 440 00:34:56,574 --> 00:34:59,202 - From the Alanis Morissette band? - That's right. 441 00:34:59,244 --> 00:35:03,237 His name's Taylor Hawkins, and... 442 00:35:03,281 --> 00:35:04,942 Is that his last name? 443 00:35:04,983 --> 00:35:06,610 I think it is. 444 00:35:06,651 --> 00:35:09,017 - He's really new! - We just met him. 445 00:35:22,133 --> 00:35:23,896 So now Taylor's in the band, 446 00:35:23,935 --> 00:35:26,369 and he comes in his first day of rehearsals, 447 00:35:26,404 --> 00:35:29,464 and Pat quits the band. 448 00:35:29,507 --> 00:35:31,372 Right then and there. 449 00:35:31,409 --> 00:35:36,244 Pat says, "Can I talk to you guys for a second?" We said, "Yeah, sure." 450 00:35:36,281 --> 00:35:40,479 We walk outside and he goes, "I gotta leave the band." 451 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:44,721 I'm like, "What the fuck? Why?" 452 00:35:44,756 --> 00:35:48,385 I was just so sick of it. I was just so sick of the whole thing. 453 00:35:48,426 --> 00:35:53,955 I didn't wanna go out on another... you know, bazillion-show tour and... 454 00:35:53,998 --> 00:35:56,364 I just don't wanna do this anymore. 455 00:35:56,401 --> 00:35:58,494 When you join a band the first week, 456 00:35:58,536 --> 00:36:00,504 and one of the members decides... 457 00:36:00,538 --> 00:36:05,237 ever since you've been there, he's gonna quit, you're like, "Obviously, it's me." 458 00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,939 I was shocked. I was shocked. 459 00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,778 I begged him to stay in the band. 460 00:36:11,816 --> 00:36:15,582 And he said, "No, man. I'm just not into it anymore." 461 00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:18,646 It was right when we were about to go out and start our tour, 462 00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:20,715 like, "Here's these new songs." 463 00:36:20,758 --> 00:36:24,785 Pat quits, and so he's kinda got us in a bad... in a bad spot. 464 00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:28,856 I asked him to stay until we could get someone to replace him. 465 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:32,336 So we made a deal that I would tour for six weeks, 466 00:36:32,370 --> 00:36:34,235 till the new guy was ready. 467 00:36:34,272 --> 00:36:37,605 But it stretched out to, I think, six months maybe. 468 00:36:57,028 --> 00:36:59,428 So Pat has quit the band, but he's still playing with us. 469 00:36:59,464 --> 00:37:02,900 That gives us some time to integrate Franz Stahl, 470 00:37:02,934 --> 00:37:04,925 who became the second guitar player in the band. 471 00:37:04,969 --> 00:37:08,598 I'd known Dave for years. We grew up in the same city. 472 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,407 He was in my first band, this punk rock band called Scream. 473 00:37:17,982 --> 00:37:20,849 When I left Scream to join Nirvana, 474 00:37:20,885 --> 00:37:25,515 the one relationship that felt the most strained was my relationship with Franz. 475 00:37:25,557 --> 00:37:29,584 I think that he resented me for leaving. 476 00:37:30,295 --> 00:37:33,992 It took a while, and then we reconciled and we became friends again. 477 00:37:34,032 --> 00:37:38,128 That moment where Pat said, "I don't wanna be in the band anymore," 478 00:37:38,169 --> 00:37:40,763 I immediately thought, "I'm gonna call Franz." 479 00:37:41,673 --> 00:37:44,233 I was on tour in Japan 480 00:37:44,275 --> 00:37:47,711 and I get the phone call from Dave 481 00:37:47,745 --> 00:37:52,341 and... he wants to know if I'd like to join the Foo Fighters. 482 00:37:52,383 --> 00:37:55,511 There wasn't any sort of musical audition. I just thought, 483 00:37:55,553 --> 00:37:58,579 "Franz, you wanna be in the Foo Fighters?" He said, "Yes." 484 00:37:58,623 --> 00:38:02,559 And then the next day I was on the roof of Radio City Music Hall. 485 00:38:02,594 --> 00:38:06,462 Please give a warm welcome to Foo Fighters! 486 00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:16,272 We were playing at the MTV Awards, on top of the marquee, 487 00:38:16,307 --> 00:38:17,740 as kind of a warm-up act. 488 00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:22,303 And so I played the first song, and then I quit. 489 00:38:22,347 --> 00:38:24,872 And then Franz came up and he joined. 490 00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:27,043 It happened just so fast. 491 00:38:28,052 --> 00:38:31,988 And I was still jet-lagged from Japan. 492 00:38:32,023 --> 00:38:36,892 Hello! The last song we played was my last song with the band. 493 00:38:36,928 --> 00:38:41,661 I would like to introduce you to Franz Stahl, who will be taking over. 494 00:38:41,699 --> 00:38:45,863 Thank you! Rock on, guys! Foo Fighters! 495 00:38:48,706 --> 00:38:51,869 It was all very new to me, because I was used to slumming it. 496 00:38:51,909 --> 00:38:55,504 Sleeping on people's floors, just getting by, you know? 497 00:38:55,546 --> 00:38:57,571 And this was a whole new level. 498 00:38:57,615 --> 00:39:01,346 When I joined the Foo Fighters, it was like, you know, you made it. 499 00:39:01,386 --> 00:39:06,085 You hit it, and you were getting recognized for it. It was awesome. 500 00:39:10,294 --> 00:39:14,731 Once Franz joined the band, we did what we always did, we went on the road. 501 00:39:14,766 --> 00:39:17,599 We played as many places and as many shows as we could, 502 00:39:17,635 --> 00:39:19,068 and it was starting to grow. 503 00:39:19,103 --> 00:39:21,503 Like, you could see there were 2,000 people, 504 00:39:21,539 --> 00:39:24,565 3,000 people, 4,000 people at gigs. 505 00:39:24,609 --> 00:39:27,806 We were no longer playing the afternoon slot at the festival, 506 00:39:27,845 --> 00:39:30,211 we were playing the evening slot. 507 00:39:30,248 --> 00:39:32,808 And there was a song on the radio, Everlong, 508 00:39:32,850 --> 00:39:36,013 and all of a sudden there were videos on MTV, 509 00:39:36,054 --> 00:39:38,386 and it was happening to us, 510 00:39:38,423 --> 00:39:41,324 that thing that happens to new bands when they start to get popular. 511 00:39:54,539 --> 00:39:56,473 We got Franz. 512 00:39:56,541 --> 00:39:57,735 I indoctrinated myself. 513 00:39:57,775 --> 00:40:00,073 That's right. Franz joined the band on-air... 514 00:40:00,111 --> 00:40:01,806 That was a great big surprise. 515 00:40:01,846 --> 00:40:04,644 It was awesome. It's the best year we've had as a band, 516 00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:07,378 and Franz is, you know... he's the dude. 517 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:14,348 I loved the first two records. 518 00:40:14,392 --> 00:40:18,852 And there wasn't a song that I didn't enjoy, you know? 519 00:40:18,896 --> 00:40:24,425 And I certainly was looking forward to writing, 520 00:40:24,469 --> 00:40:26,835 and... you know, leaving my mark. 521 00:40:30,842 --> 00:40:32,810 Franz is a great guy. And a sweet guy. 522 00:40:32,844 --> 00:40:36,007 And I was actually... got really close with him. 523 00:40:36,047 --> 00:40:37,981 It seemed like it would be perfect. 524 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:42,884 We were rehearsing and writing at the time, 525 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,482 and coming up with song ideas... and Taylor and Nate and I 526 00:40:47,525 --> 00:40:51,017 seemed to have this thing where we were on the same page, 527 00:40:51,062 --> 00:40:55,465 and we were jamming and coming up with something together. 528 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,160 And Franz just didn't seem to find his place in all of that. 529 00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:04,402 In Scream, I wrote all the music, the majority of it. 530 00:41:04,442 --> 00:41:06,603 My brother would write the lyrics. 531 00:41:06,644 --> 00:41:09,545 So I was always, I was very hands-on, you know? 532 00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:11,707 But it was Dave's band. 533 00:41:11,749 --> 00:41:13,546 And he writes all the music. 534 00:41:13,618 --> 00:41:16,382 I was kinda leery of pushing my ideas, you know, 535 00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:21,187 so I wasn't trying to be as vocal about it. 536 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,627 For some reason, the four of us together wasn't right. 537 00:41:27,665 --> 00:41:32,693 It never congealed into feeling like a band. It's just chemistry. 538 00:41:32,737 --> 00:41:35,865 We had a talk with Dave about it and he didn't wanna hear it, 539 00:41:35,907 --> 00:41:37,932 but he knew what the situation was. 540 00:41:37,975 --> 00:41:42,969 My relationship with Franz was much different than everybody else's. 541 00:41:43,014 --> 00:41:45,983 I'd known the guy since I was 18. 542 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:49,679 And we had cut our teeth together. 543 00:41:50,454 --> 00:41:53,787 It was tough, man. I mean, honestly, like... 544 00:41:53,825 --> 00:41:56,885 It was just, you know, a great old friend of mine that, 545 00:41:56,928 --> 00:42:00,796 unfortunately, I was asking to leave the band. 546 00:42:00,865 --> 00:42:03,857 That's not to say he's not a fucking great musician, 547 00:42:03,935 --> 00:42:06,597 because, of course, everybody knows he is, 548 00:42:06,637 --> 00:42:11,540 but when we worked together as four people... 549 00:42:11,576 --> 00:42:13,976 it just didn't gel, you know? 550 00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:18,273 We got on some kind of conference call 551 00:42:18,316 --> 00:42:21,581 and told him we were gonna get a different guitar player. 552 00:42:21,619 --> 00:42:25,020 There was a lot of sadness and drama. It was ugly. 553 00:42:25,056 --> 00:42:27,081 Basically, I got a phone call. 554 00:42:29,393 --> 00:42:31,293 I got a fucking phone call. 555 00:42:32,597 --> 00:42:34,929 And it just all ends right there. 556 00:42:36,434 --> 00:42:39,767 I don't even know how to react, you know? 557 00:42:39,804 --> 00:42:43,331 There's just no nice way of saying, "You're out of the band." 558 00:42:46,777 --> 00:42:50,577 I'm not exactly sure what happened. 559 00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:54,575 You know, I was in the band... 560 00:42:54,619 --> 00:42:57,247 and, for whatever reason, I was out of the band. 561 00:42:57,855 --> 00:43:03,725 But, I mean, it was the best two years of my life, you know? 562 00:43:04,862 --> 00:43:07,330 Most bands go through the same shit 563 00:43:07,365 --> 00:43:11,665 that we had been through up until that point. 564 00:43:11,702 --> 00:43:13,829 Before anybody's ever heard of them. 565 00:43:13,871 --> 00:43:19,434 Unfortunately, we went through all of those embarrassing growing pains in public. 566 00:43:21,379 --> 00:43:24,678 By 1998, I would sit down to do an interview, and people'd say, 567 00:43:24,715 --> 00:43:27,809 "OK, so fuckin'... Who's in the band right now? 568 00:43:27,852 --> 00:43:30,878 "Has anybody else left in the last month and a half?" 569 00:43:30,922 --> 00:43:32,753 But there was always Nate. 570 00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:38,026 I was staying at my mother's house, 571 00:43:38,062 --> 00:43:40,030 and I got a call from Nate. 572 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:46,802 I said, "What's up, man?" He goes, "I gotta leave the band." 573 00:43:46,837 --> 00:43:49,965 And I just thought, "Oh, Jesus fucking Christ." 574 00:43:50,007 --> 00:43:51,474 I said, "OK." 575 00:43:51,509 --> 00:43:52,976 At this point... 576 00:43:53,010 --> 00:43:56,969 my response to a member leaving was like, "All right, why?" 577 00:44:00,251 --> 00:44:02,583 Sunny Day Real Estate had gotten back together. 578 00:44:02,620 --> 00:44:05,487 I had a lot of really formative experiences with them, 579 00:44:05,523 --> 00:44:07,388 so I had this like... 580 00:44:08,092 --> 00:44:11,994 high-school crush, kind of irrational... 581 00:44:12,029 --> 00:44:15,123 attraction to that project. 582 00:44:16,934 --> 00:44:19,869 And I was tortured, and I called up Dave. 583 00:44:19,904 --> 00:44:21,804 And I was fuckin' pissed. 584 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:26,105 I think I told him, "OK, you know what? Call everyone and tell 'em you quit. 585 00:44:26,143 --> 00:44:28,236 "I'm gonna go fuckin' get drunk." 586 00:44:28,279 --> 00:44:31,339 As soon as I got off the phone, I knew it was the wrong thing to do, 587 00:44:31,382 --> 00:44:34,249 that I was gonna be happier in Foo Fighters. 588 00:44:34,285 --> 00:44:36,412 It was a better thing for me to do. 589 00:44:36,454 --> 00:44:40,049 I called a couple friends... "I quit the band and I feel weird about it." 590 00:44:40,091 --> 00:44:41,752 "Yeah, 'cause that was a dumb idea." 591 00:44:41,792 --> 00:44:45,387 Me and my buddy Jimmy took my rental car out to Ribsters, 592 00:44:46,497 --> 00:44:51,059 we got fuckin' shitfaced, rallied my rental car, 593 00:44:51,102 --> 00:44:54,037 fuckin' threw rocks at it all night, busted out windows, 594 00:44:54,071 --> 00:44:57,700 drove over people's lawns, and I wound up stumbling home 595 00:44:57,742 --> 00:45:02,770 and woke up at seven in the morning in the bedroom that I grew up in as a kid, 596 00:45:02,813 --> 00:45:05,907 with my mom saying, "David, Nate's on the phone!" 597 00:45:07,952 --> 00:45:09,943 I called him the next morning at 6 am. 598 00:45:09,987 --> 00:45:12,547 I was wigged out and I think it caught him off guard. 599 00:45:12,590 --> 00:45:15,559 "I don't really wanna quit the band. I don't know what I was thinking." 600 00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:17,322 He's like, "Good." 601 00:45:17,361 --> 00:45:22,298 I was like, "Yeah. This is better. Sorry about that." 602 00:45:22,333 --> 00:45:25,131 I was still wasted, too. I was just lying in bed, like, 603 00:45:25,169 --> 00:45:28,263 "I love you, man. I'm glad you don't wanna quit." 604 00:45:35,212 --> 00:45:39,945 So we decided that we're gonna make this next record as a three-piece. 605 00:45:43,821 --> 00:45:46,813 We had just made this super hyper-produced record, 606 00:45:46,857 --> 00:45:49,121 which we slaved over and lost two band members. 607 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,722 I thought, "I'm gonna buy a house in Virginia, build a studio in the basement, 608 00:45:53,764 --> 00:45:57,325 "and we're gonna make this record without any fuckin' record company 609 00:45:57,368 --> 00:46:00,337 "and no pressure, and no one telling us what to do." 610 00:46:07,912 --> 00:46:10,540 It was different, just having the three of us there, 611 00:46:10,581 --> 00:46:13,516 we were starting to form a good identity for the band. 612 00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:31,533 That's when Dave was first starting to become more comfortable as a lyric writer. 613 00:46:44,482 --> 00:46:48,475 A song like Ain't It The Life, without realizing what I was doing, 614 00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:53,889 I was kind of making this wish list of all the things in life I wish I had. 615 00:47:04,068 --> 00:47:06,559 We weren't really on a major deadline, 616 00:47:06,604 --> 00:47:11,098 our friend Adam Kasper was down there engineering and co-producing. 617 00:47:14,245 --> 00:47:16,975 I did all of those vocals sitting on a couch. 618 00:47:17,014 --> 00:47:19,778 It was just a laid-back record, and you hear it. 619 00:47:22,052 --> 00:47:23,246 And the Grammy goes to... 620 00:47:23,287 --> 00:47:24,345 And the Grammy goes to... 621 00:47:24,388 --> 00:47:26,015 Learn To Fly, Foo Fighters. 622 00:47:26,056 --> 00:47:29,025 There Is Nothing Left To Lose, Foo Fighters. 623 00:47:29,059 --> 00:47:31,027 We won three Grammys for that record. 624 00:47:31,061 --> 00:47:33,393 I remember standing there at the podium making the speech, 625 00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:36,763 looking out at all those people in tuxedos and diamonds and shit, 626 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,633 thinking, "I bet you this is the only record made in a basement 627 00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:41,501 "that's gonna win a Grammy this year." 628 00:47:41,539 --> 00:47:43,336 And I was so fuckin' proud. 629 00:47:43,374 --> 00:47:46,138 Take care, thank you very much, everybody. 630 00:47:48,145 --> 00:47:52,411 Roll camera. OK, and roll sound. Roll playback! 631 00:47:57,955 --> 00:48:01,288 We take our music really seriously, but music videos? 632 00:48:01,325 --> 00:48:03,520 They're commercials. They're candy commercials. 633 00:48:03,561 --> 00:48:07,122 So why not make fun of the process? 634 00:48:13,103 --> 00:48:16,436 But once we got into it, I started having fun with it. 635 00:48:16,473 --> 00:48:19,931 And it became a trademark for this band. 636 00:48:23,747 --> 00:48:26,079 We try not to take ourselves too seriously. 637 00:48:26,116 --> 00:48:29,244 In videos a lot of times, you could easily get caught up in that, 638 00:48:29,286 --> 00:48:30,981 "We're playing on a mountaintop." 639 00:48:31,021 --> 00:48:33,387 The wind's blowing in your hair, 640 00:48:33,424 --> 00:48:36,587 and then an eagle flies down and lands on your shoulder. 641 00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:38,525 Or some, you know, like... 642 00:48:52,142 --> 00:48:55,236 I just think that's sort of an outlet of our humor. 643 00:48:58,115 --> 00:49:02,643 I mean, I've seen Dave do stuff on videos, where he's bein' such a fuckin' goofball. 644 00:49:02,686 --> 00:49:04,017 I'm not as good at it. 645 00:49:15,633 --> 00:49:18,693 You know, I did try to make us a trio. 646 00:49:18,736 --> 00:49:21,330 Dude, Police! They're a trio! 647 00:49:21,372 --> 00:49:25,365 Musically, we needed more. More guitar. 648 00:49:25,409 --> 00:49:30,108 Part of the sound of the Foo Fighters is a lot of guitars. It's just part of the sound. 649 00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:32,206 We argue about it every time we mix a record, 650 00:49:32,249 --> 00:49:34,911 'cause I always want the drums louder, and Dave's like, 651 00:49:34,952 --> 00:49:37,284 "It's the Foo Fighters. The guitars are really loud." 652 00:49:37,321 --> 00:49:40,017 None of us had the right guy that was a friend, 653 00:49:40,057 --> 00:49:42,389 or a friend of a friend... It wasn't handy. 654 00:49:42,426 --> 00:49:45,224 So we had to have open auditions for a guitar player. 655 00:49:45,262 --> 00:49:49,198 Pin a note at the Guitar Center, like, "Guitar player wanted for Foo Fighters." 656 00:49:49,233 --> 00:49:51,167 We wound up in this rehearsal space, 657 00:49:51,201 --> 00:49:54,932 and I just remember this line of guitar players. 658 00:49:54,972 --> 00:49:57,065 And I was terrified. 659 00:49:59,343 --> 00:50:03,040 It sounded great. I mean, I dig it. Nice meeting you for the first time. 660 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,605 Hopefully see you again soon. 661 00:50:05,649 --> 00:50:07,549 There's the guy that came in and hugged everybody. 662 00:50:07,584 --> 00:50:11,987 It was like, "Hi. Hi." It was like... 663 00:50:12,956 --> 00:50:15,982 There was one kid that came in, he was so nervous. 664 00:50:16,026 --> 00:50:19,484 He came in, and was like, "What's up? Will you sign something for me?" 665 00:50:19,530 --> 00:50:22,556 He just immediately wanted us to sign some shit. 666 00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:26,467 We were like, "Yeah, dude, cool it. It's cool, you know? Just relax. 667 00:50:26,503 --> 00:50:28,596 "Let's hang, you know? Let's talk." 668 00:50:29,506 --> 00:50:32,100 And we hung out and talked a little bit. 669 00:50:32,142 --> 00:50:35,873 And then he went to open up his guitar case, and it was locked. 670 00:50:35,913 --> 00:50:39,679 He had a brand new guitar, a brand new case, 671 00:50:39,717 --> 00:50:43,209 and he fucking locked his guitar in it. 672 00:50:43,253 --> 00:50:45,050 And didn't have a key. 673 00:50:47,991 --> 00:50:51,290 We literally did, like, a week or two of tryouts. 674 00:50:51,328 --> 00:50:54,695 There was one point where it was getting a little dire, we were like, "Fuck!" 675 00:50:54,732 --> 00:50:57,633 A good friend of mine called me and said, 676 00:50:57,668 --> 00:51:01,798 "Hey, I heard Guns N' Roses are auditioning guitar players, 677 00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:04,273 "and I think I could get you an audition." 678 00:51:04,308 --> 00:51:07,937 And I was like, "Well, I don't wanna audition for Guns N' Roses." 679 00:51:07,978 --> 00:51:11,436 But I said, "But I heard the Foo Fighters guitar player quit. 680 00:51:11,482 --> 00:51:14,178 "Try to get me an audition with Foo Fighters." 681 00:51:14,218 --> 00:51:16,083 Everyone, shake hands with Chris. 682 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,144 Chris! 683 00:51:19,056 --> 00:51:22,116 When Chris came in to audition, 684 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,322 we somehow came to the realization 685 00:51:25,362 --> 00:51:31,528 that we met when we were kids at a punk rock show in Santa Barbara. 686 00:51:31,568 --> 00:51:33,729 Years and years before any of this, 687 00:51:33,771 --> 00:51:36,433 when Dave had been the drummer in Scream, 688 00:51:36,473 --> 00:51:39,135 and I was playing bass in a band called Rat Pack. 689 00:51:39,176 --> 00:51:40,871 We actually opened up for them. 690 00:51:40,911 --> 00:51:45,371 The fact that he was a part of that underground punk rock thing 691 00:51:45,416 --> 00:51:46,906 was really important to me. 692 00:51:56,460 --> 00:52:00,191 So we bonded pretty instantly, because I thought, 693 00:52:00,230 --> 00:52:05,759 "He's gonna get it. He's gonna understand, and he won't take this shit for granted." 694 00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:13,002 Very good, that's very good, man. 695 00:52:18,749 --> 00:52:22,344 He could sing, and he was a shredder, and he was a good guy, 696 00:52:22,386 --> 00:52:25,378 and he'd been in bands, 697 00:52:25,422 --> 00:52:28,448 and he didn't smell, and he was awesome. 698 00:52:28,492 --> 00:52:31,928 So the next day, just all day, I just sat there by the phone. 699 00:52:31,962 --> 00:52:34,726 And at like, around five or six, the phone rang 700 00:52:34,765 --> 00:52:36,995 and it was Dave and Taylor. And they said, 701 00:52:37,034 --> 00:52:41,232 "All right, you know, you got the gig. We start rehearsing tomorrow. 702 00:52:41,271 --> 00:52:44,763 "Say goodbye to your friends, you're not gonna see anybody for the next year." 703 00:52:44,808 --> 00:52:48,107 It was like, Chris joined the band and we had our itinerary ready to go. 704 00:52:48,145 --> 00:52:50,909 "Ready? We're gonna leave for ten years. Let's go." 705 00:52:50,948 --> 00:52:53,712 The Foos found their new best buddy in Chris Shiflett, 706 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:57,311 a former member of punk bands No Use For A Name and 22 Jacks. 707 00:52:57,354 --> 00:53:00,118 I remember wanting to help Chris feel comfortable. 708 00:53:00,157 --> 00:53:02,421 We went out to dinner a couple of times. 709 00:53:02,459 --> 00:53:06,156 Trying not to have a situation where he comes in and it's like, "OK, go!" 710 00:53:06,196 --> 00:53:09,461 When I joined Nirvana, I was the fifth drummer of Nirvana. 711 00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,958 With Chris, it was maybe the same way, you know? 712 00:53:13,003 --> 00:53:15,471 He was the third guitar player of the Foo Fighters. 713 00:53:15,506 --> 00:53:20,000 In the early days of being in the band I didn't wanna step on anybody's toes. 714 00:53:20,043 --> 00:53:23,604 I didn't even know what... I didn't know what my place was. 715 00:53:23,647 --> 00:53:28,448 And I was just genuinely, like, this was everything that I ever wanted - 716 00:53:28,485 --> 00:53:29,850 the dream coming true. 717 00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:39,286 Every time Foo Fighters would put out a record, 718 00:53:39,329 --> 00:53:42,958 I would get really excited and miss it so bad. 719 00:53:47,237 --> 00:53:50,297 I found out after being in the band for a couple months 720 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:53,104 that they had almost replaced me with Pat. 721 00:53:53,176 --> 00:53:54,973 Pat almost came back, 722 00:53:55,012 --> 00:53:57,845 who they had a lot of history with, and there was a relationship there. 723 00:53:57,881 --> 00:54:01,339 Dave didn't know that I knew that, and probably most of them didn't. 724 00:54:01,385 --> 00:54:06,516 There was at least a couple times where I called Dave and said, "I want back." 725 00:54:06,557 --> 00:54:09,526 Then when it looked like it might actually happen, I got scared. 726 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,223 After being in the band for a couple months, I had this feeling, 727 00:54:13,263 --> 00:54:17,256 "This could all end, and I'm gonna enjoy this while it lasts. 728 00:54:17,301 --> 00:54:20,828 "Because it probably will end sooner than I want it to." 729 00:54:24,207 --> 00:54:28,667 That third record, we went on the road with the Red Hot Chili Peppers. 730 00:54:29,846 --> 00:54:32,679 For, like, four months we toured America with them. 731 00:54:34,718 --> 00:54:36,345 We had never played arenas before. 732 00:54:36,386 --> 00:54:38,877 We hadn't done that arena rock thing. 733 00:54:46,563 --> 00:54:50,021 That's when we started coming up with jams onstage 734 00:54:50,067 --> 00:54:52,433 and working out, like, a show. 735 00:54:52,469 --> 00:54:55,461 Not a "show," not dancers and shit in the show, 736 00:54:55,505 --> 00:55:00,067 but really like kinda work out a good set. So that it's impressive. 737 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,046 Taylor really drove that home. It was great. 738 00:55:06,083 --> 00:55:10,076 That changed the band, probably, forever and made us concentrate more 739 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,951 on really playing together. 740 00:55:11,989 --> 00:55:16,653 We had a stage setup that we had built for the arena. 741 00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:20,322 It was basically modeled after the Queen Live Killers record cover, 742 00:55:20,364 --> 00:55:21,729 it was very seventies. 743 00:55:21,765 --> 00:55:25,394 Hi. This is our dressing room, where we get dressed before we play. 744 00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:27,665 And we had these little uniforms set. 745 00:55:27,704 --> 00:55:29,604 And we brought a wardrobe case 746 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,134 Everything was red and black, or white. That was our color theme for the tour. 747 00:55:34,177 --> 00:55:37,374 It was the first time we thought in terms of something like, 748 00:55:37,414 --> 00:55:39,507 "Let's look a certain way on stage." 749 00:55:39,549 --> 00:55:42,074 I had the black shirt with white tie and black pants. 750 00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:44,280 Nate had the red shirt with black tie and... 751 00:55:44,321 --> 00:55:47,119 We looked like Kraftwerk or something like that. 752 00:55:47,157 --> 00:55:49,091 We were... It was silly, really. 753 00:55:50,794 --> 00:55:54,628 But we put on this show, and we fuckin' killed it. 754 00:55:59,736 --> 00:56:04,503 OK, we'll see you guys in a town near you, I hope very soon. 755 00:56:04,541 --> 00:56:06,532 Take care and... 756 00:56:07,611 --> 00:56:08,737 I love you. 757 00:56:20,357 --> 00:56:25,090 It just stands to reason no matter how great a thing that your life or your job is, 758 00:56:25,128 --> 00:56:27,323 after a while, you need a break. 759 00:56:35,772 --> 00:56:38,400 That was fun until after two months of doing it. 760 00:56:38,442 --> 00:56:41,434 It feels like Groundhog Day, all those arenas look the same. 761 00:56:41,478 --> 00:56:44,879 You start bringing the bottle of whisky to the stage with you. 762 00:56:48,952 --> 00:56:52,854 It started with, "Let's do a shot before we play." We'd call it "band prayer". 763 00:56:52,889 --> 00:56:57,121 Then that turned into like, "Let's do ten shots before we play." 764 00:56:59,996 --> 00:57:03,591 And we all started gettin' fuckin' hammered before we went onstage. 765 00:57:04,501 --> 00:57:06,992 And we got really shitty by the end. 766 00:57:09,606 --> 00:57:14,873 I think that's probably why so many musicians wind up getting so fucked up, 767 00:57:14,911 --> 00:57:18,176 just 'cause you need something to keep it fun. 768 00:57:20,517 --> 00:57:23,247 Taylor had been struggling with... 769 00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:25,851 with drugs, I think. 770 00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:28,956 He and I had talked about it a few times. 771 00:57:28,992 --> 00:57:33,725 I didn't really know how to deal with the way you were supposed to be. 772 00:57:33,764 --> 00:57:39,725 I thought that to be a rock 'n' roller you have to be the fuckin' Keith Richards. 773 00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:43,433 You have to be the dark, partying, fuckin'... the real deal. 774 00:57:45,041 --> 00:57:48,499 That's the only way it's real rock 'n' roll. 775 00:57:48,545 --> 00:57:49,204 Rock 'n' roll! 776 00:57:49,246 --> 00:57:53,842 I would tell him, I'd say, "You know, dude, I love you like a brother. 777 00:57:55,118 --> 00:57:58,110 "I'm not a cop. I'm not your dad, whatever. 778 00:57:58,155 --> 00:58:00,953 "But I'm worried about you, you know?" 779 00:58:06,763 --> 00:58:08,253 We were in London, 780 00:58:08,298 --> 00:58:11,756 and we all went out to a bar across the street from the hotel. 781 00:58:11,802 --> 00:58:14,999 We were having a good time, and I came back to my room early. 782 00:58:16,273 --> 00:58:21,267 And in the morning I got a call that he was on his way to the hospital. 783 00:58:22,579 --> 00:58:26,777 We got word that Taylor's in a coma at the hospital, 784 00:58:26,817 --> 00:58:29,479 and OD'd on, you know, whatever it was. 785 00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:31,544 I think it was heroin that he did. 786 00:58:32,923 --> 00:58:38,520 And our sound man at the time, he was like, "Oh yeah, Taylor fucked up. 787 00:58:38,562 --> 00:58:41,326 "He's gonna die, like, he's fuckin' dead." 788 00:58:44,801 --> 00:58:49,670 It was so weird, like, he hadn't died, but he had overdosed. 789 00:58:50,740 --> 00:58:52,071 And... 790 00:58:53,777 --> 00:58:56,473 I just felt so totally helpless, you know? 791 00:59:14,564 --> 00:59:16,464 What sort of things do you demand on tour? 792 00:59:16,499 --> 00:59:18,490 Instruments. 793 00:59:20,437 --> 00:59:22,632 So I sat with him... 794 00:59:22,672 --> 00:59:25,402 for those couple weeks. 795 00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:28,769 Until he woke up. 796 00:59:28,812 --> 00:59:32,213 And when he woke up, 797 00:59:32,249 --> 00:59:35,184 I said to him, "Dude, it's gonna be OK." 798 00:59:35,218 --> 00:59:38,312 And he looked at me and he said, "Fuck off!" 799 00:59:38,355 --> 00:59:42,189 And I thought, "Oh, good, everything's gonna be OK." 800 00:59:42,225 --> 00:59:43,487 Dave's my best friend. 801 00:59:43,526 --> 00:59:47,929 And even more than a best friend, he's like a brother. He really is. 802 00:59:47,964 --> 00:59:51,229 And, yeah, he was... as I would be with him, 803 00:59:52,002 --> 00:59:56,268 if something happened to Dave where he was on the brink of death, 804 00:59:56,339 --> 00:59:59,035 I would be losing my mind. 805 00:59:59,075 --> 01:00:01,009 And he was losing his mind. 806 01:00:05,382 --> 01:00:09,318 So we get back from London after my fuckin' OD, 807 01:00:09,352 --> 01:00:13,812 and then two months after that, we start trying to make this record. 808 01:00:13,857 --> 01:00:17,918 But we weren't ready. And nobody's really into it. 809 01:00:18,528 --> 01:00:20,393 Everyone's playing half-assed. 810 01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:23,297 I'd do something and Dave would listen and say, 811 01:00:23,333 --> 01:00:27,463 "This has gotta change. This is not working with the vocals. That's too busy." 812 01:00:27,504 --> 01:00:30,473 I was disagreeing. I had a shitty attitude 'cause I was pissed. 813 01:00:30,507 --> 01:00:33,635 It was bizarre. It was my first record with the band. 814 01:00:33,677 --> 01:00:36,441 And I was just showing up to the studio every day 815 01:00:36,479 --> 01:00:40,779 and was sort of confused, like, "It's weird, I'm never playing on this. 816 01:00:40,817 --> 01:00:43,809 "I show up at noon every day and I kinda sit here 817 01:00:43,853 --> 01:00:47,914 "and I eat food and drink coffee and then I go home. 818 01:00:47,958 --> 01:00:49,220 "What is this?" 819 01:00:49,259 --> 01:00:51,056 There's starting to... 820 01:00:51,094 --> 01:00:53,392 There's a little bit of infighting 821 01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:56,991 and whispers of, "Blah-blah's pissed at blah-blah about wah-dah." 822 01:00:57,033 --> 01:00:59,524 And the vibes just were not happening. 823 01:00:59,569 --> 01:01:02,663 Dave's like, "I feel like you guys are taking the band for granted. 824 01:01:02,706 --> 01:01:06,107 "It's just, show up, make a record, and go on and do our thing. 825 01:01:06,142 --> 01:01:09,771 "There's no... You don't have to show up with a passion for it." 826 01:01:09,813 --> 01:01:10,802 And he had a point. 827 01:01:10,847 --> 01:01:16,808 I would walk in, listen to what we have, and think, 828 01:01:16,853 --> 01:01:20,448 "I don't really know if I want anyone to hear this." 829 01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:23,721 The making of that record was a fuckin'... It sucked. 830 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,728 We finished it, and... 831 01:01:25,762 --> 01:01:28,697 we gave it to our manager, John Silva, 832 01:01:28,732 --> 01:01:31,326 and he was like, "Well, we could put this out, 833 01:01:31,368 --> 01:01:34,929 "but I don't know if we're gonna be able to sell any of them." 834 01:01:43,246 --> 01:01:44,474 Immediately following that, 835 01:01:44,514 --> 01:01:47,142 Dave had done a record with Queens of the Stone Age as their drummer, 836 01:01:47,183 --> 01:01:49,208 and went out and toured on that record. 837 01:01:49,252 --> 01:01:51,152 And was like, "I'm gonna go do this. 838 01:01:51,187 --> 01:01:56,284 "We'll figure out what we're gonna do about this record that didn't work later." 839 01:01:57,127 --> 01:02:00,028 Dave's not happy with the record and he wants to shelve it. 840 01:02:00,063 --> 01:02:02,861 And he's also gonna go on tour with Queens of the Stone Age. 841 01:02:02,899 --> 01:02:06,596 And so it was kind of like, "Whoa. He's doing what? 842 01:02:06,636 --> 01:02:09,833 "You know, what are we doing again? What did you say?" 843 01:02:14,911 --> 01:02:17,937 I just started to think that we should stop. 844 01:02:18,815 --> 01:02:20,715 "I don't have to be here, 845 01:02:20,750 --> 01:02:24,550 "and I really fuckin' love doing this other thing, so... 846 01:02:25,722 --> 01:02:26,711 "fuck it." 847 01:02:26,756 --> 01:02:29,953 He went off with Queens, and that went on for a little while. 848 01:02:29,993 --> 01:02:33,326 Then we got together to rehearse, to go play Coachella. 849 01:02:33,363 --> 01:02:35,957 We were signed on to do this show, 850 01:02:35,999 --> 01:02:38,297 where Dave was playing with Queens the day before, 851 01:02:38,334 --> 01:02:39,631 and then we were playing. 852 01:02:39,669 --> 01:02:41,193 There was so much tension. 853 01:02:41,237 --> 01:02:44,832 Nobody was talking, and we were just rehearsing to get through these songs. 854 01:02:44,874 --> 01:02:47,365 God bless him, Chris at one point in time in the rehearsal just goes, 855 01:02:47,410 --> 01:02:49,139 "I don't know if I'm the only one, 856 01:02:49,179 --> 01:02:51,807 "but you could cut the air in here with a fuckin' knife. 857 01:02:51,848 --> 01:02:53,873 "What the fuck's goin' on?" Then it was just on. 858 01:02:53,917 --> 01:02:58,320 We had this big fight, one of the biggest arguments we've ever had. 859 01:02:58,354 --> 01:03:00,117 It was mostly between Taylor and Dave. 860 01:03:00,156 --> 01:03:03,717 They had it out, like this serious discussion. Stuff that had been pent up. 861 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,560 When I went to play drums with Queens of the Stone Age, Taylor resented me for that. 862 01:03:07,597 --> 01:03:09,656 What bands are you listening to now? 863 01:03:09,699 --> 01:03:13,260 The new Queens of the Stone Age CD is amazing, everybody knows that. 864 01:03:13,303 --> 01:03:15,863 He was really upset that I didn't come see him play drums 865 01:03:15,905 --> 01:03:19,341 and how exciting it was for him to be back onstage 866 01:03:19,375 --> 01:03:23,812 playing with another band. I just went through this awful trauma, 867 01:03:23,847 --> 01:03:26,475 and I was supposed to be happy 868 01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:30,144 that Dave's having such a good time. But I wasn't, you know? 869 01:03:30,186 --> 01:03:33,485 "I'm not fucking happy for you to go play with another band. 870 01:03:33,523 --> 01:03:36,048 "Why should I be happy for that?" 871 01:03:36,092 --> 01:03:38,856 So Dave was trying to write the set list for the show, 872 01:03:38,895 --> 01:03:40,886 and we had an argument about it, just, 873 01:03:40,930 --> 01:03:44,388 "You're a fuckin' asshole." "If you don't like it, you can leave!" 874 01:03:44,434 --> 01:03:48,393 And the next day, I said, "I will be leaving. As soon as we finish this. 875 01:03:48,438 --> 01:03:51,168 "As soon as we play Coachella and finish this record, 876 01:03:51,207 --> 01:03:53,573 "do whatever commitments we have, I'm out of here." 877 01:03:53,610 --> 01:03:56,374 "Look, let's go and do this show, 878 01:03:56,412 --> 01:03:59,108 "and if we never wanna do it again, then let's not." 879 01:03:59,149 --> 01:04:03,017 "The Foo Fighters are over. And I'm OK with that." 880 01:04:03,052 --> 01:04:06,715 "OK. That's it. Oh well." 881 01:04:13,530 --> 01:04:15,464 I played two nights at that Coachella. 882 01:04:15,498 --> 01:04:19,366 One with the Foo Fighters, and one with Queens of the Stone Age. 883 01:04:19,402 --> 01:04:23,930 And Taylor sat and watched Queens of the Stone Age that night, at Coachella. 884 01:04:24,841 --> 01:04:27,605 At that point, I was OK with it. I didn't care anymore. 885 01:04:27,644 --> 01:04:31,512 I was like, "Well, this is probably our last show, so, you know, 886 01:04:31,548 --> 01:04:35,245 "maybe Dave will just end up being Queens of the Stone Age drummer for now 887 01:04:35,285 --> 01:04:37,685 "or whatever, and that'll be what it is." 888 01:04:39,889 --> 01:04:42,449 And then we played the next day and we played great. 889 01:04:49,098 --> 01:04:53,057 Dave was like, a new front man in front of 10,000, 20,000 people, 890 01:04:53,102 --> 01:04:55,070 however big that fuckin' thing is. 891 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,973 It was really good. After that, me and Dave went for a walk. 892 01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:06,175 And he said, "Let's go back to Virginia, record a couple songs." 893 01:05:06,216 --> 01:05:11,745 We made a plan to meet and just jam, see what happens. 894 01:05:11,788 --> 01:05:14,985 I said, "I have this new song. It's called Times Like These." 895 01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:29,467 Times Like These was basically written 896 01:05:29,505 --> 01:05:32,770 about the band disappearing for those two or three months. 897 01:05:32,809 --> 01:05:37,405 And me feeling like I wasn't entirely myself. 898 01:05:52,762 --> 01:05:56,323 I just thought, "OK. I'm not done being in the band. 899 01:05:56,366 --> 01:05:58,630 "I don't know if they are, but I'm not." 900 01:05:59,902 --> 01:06:03,565 It wasn't too long before Dave was excited to get back to work on the record. 901 01:06:03,606 --> 01:06:05,767 We just started picking all the songs 902 01:06:05,808 --> 01:06:08,333 and going, "Let's re-record that. We have a week." 903 01:06:08,378 --> 01:06:12,109 And we re-recorded the album in seven days in my basement. 904 01:06:16,019 --> 01:06:19,045 It was all finished really quickly, and it had the passion, 905 01:06:19,088 --> 01:06:23,115 it had the feel and sound that was like... a record we could be proud of. 906 01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:28,392 I remember that being like, the turning point. Like, "OK, this isn't ending." 907 01:06:32,735 --> 01:06:35,863 We had already spent three months and a million dollars 908 01:06:35,938 --> 01:06:38,406 on something that we threw away. 909 01:06:38,441 --> 01:06:44,175 The difference between All My Life and All My Life 910 01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:50,812 was that this one cost a million dollars and sounded like crap. 911 01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:53,947 This one, we did in my basement in half an hour 912 01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:57,391 and became the biggest fuckin' song the band ever had. 913 01:07:12,875 --> 01:07:16,003 It was a big record, you know? Millions of people bought it. 914 01:07:16,045 --> 01:07:19,674 All My Life we just have to play when we play gigs. 915 01:07:19,716 --> 01:07:22,685 To this day, that's by far my favorite song to play live. 916 01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:25,415 Every night, good or bad show, it doesn't matter, 917 01:07:25,455 --> 01:07:29,118 when you get to that part of the set, it always goes bananas. 918 01:07:29,192 --> 01:07:32,389 If you're having a bad show, that's the turning point every night. 919 01:07:42,605 --> 01:07:45,597 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the Foo Fighters! 920 01:07:46,609 --> 01:07:49,271 Ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters. 921 01:07:49,312 --> 01:07:52,406 Please welcome back to the program, Foo Fighters. 922 01:07:52,749 --> 01:07:53,943 Foo Fighters! 923 01:07:55,118 --> 01:07:57,211 Ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters! 924 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,634 We barely got through making a record, 925 01:08:18,674 --> 01:08:21,404 and then started kinda going up the ranks as a live band. 926 01:08:21,444 --> 01:08:24,174 We didn't have huge success right up front. 927 01:08:24,213 --> 01:08:28,081 It's been little milestones of things we've been asked to do and been able to do. 928 01:08:28,117 --> 01:08:30,984 It was a fun time. We were doing these great tours, 929 01:08:31,020 --> 01:08:34,683 and the shows were getting bigger, and we were on a good roll. 930 01:08:36,058 --> 01:08:39,357 We'd get asked to play on the MTV Awards, and we'd show up, 931 01:08:39,395 --> 01:08:41,955 and we'd be the only fuckin' rock band there. 932 01:08:41,998 --> 01:08:47,163 So it'd be like us and fuckin' boy bands, girl bands, rappers, solo artists. 933 01:08:47,203 --> 01:08:49,671 After a while we got suspicious, like, 934 01:08:49,705 --> 01:08:53,698 "Wait a minute, do they know who we are or do they just need a rock band?" 935 01:09:05,488 --> 01:09:06,750 Thank you. 936 01:09:19,302 --> 01:09:20,769 After One By One, 937 01:09:20,803 --> 01:09:25,035 I went home and started demoing all this really delicate acoustic music. 938 01:09:28,244 --> 01:09:30,576 I thought, "Let's make an album 939 01:09:30,613 --> 01:09:35,312 "where you have one CD that's all the really heavy rock shit, 940 01:09:35,351 --> 01:09:36,648 "then you have another CD 941 01:09:36,686 --> 01:09:41,123 "that's really beautiful acoustic-based, lower dynamic stuff." 942 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,123 And we'll tour for six or seven months on the rock record, 943 01:09:47,163 --> 01:09:50,462 then go out on this theatre tour doing the acoustic shows. 944 01:09:55,204 --> 01:09:58,401 Since the acoustic record had additional instrumentation, 945 01:09:58,841 --> 01:10:01,207 I thought, "We need a bigger band." 946 01:10:01,944 --> 01:10:03,844 I always had in the back of my mind 947 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,611 that someday I'll get to come and play along with them. 948 01:10:09,085 --> 01:10:11,747 And in 2006, Dave called me and said, 949 01:10:11,787 --> 01:10:14,051 "Come out and do this acoustic tour with me." 950 01:10:16,959 --> 01:10:18,551 I didn't actually know Pat, 951 01:10:18,594 --> 01:10:22,997 but I was aware that there'd been a couple times through the years 952 01:10:23,032 --> 01:10:25,193 when Dave had almost brought him back. 953 01:10:25,234 --> 01:10:29,000 And so, to me, Pat was just a guy that wanted my job. 954 01:10:29,038 --> 01:10:33,475 So when I found out about that, I was just like, "You gotta be fuckin' kidding me." 955 01:10:36,445 --> 01:10:39,414 Pat is a Foo Fighter, whether he's in the band or not. 956 01:10:39,448 --> 01:10:43,782 He and I have gone through a lot together. Pat should be in the band. 957 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,011 I definitely thought it must be awkward for Chris. 958 01:10:47,056 --> 01:10:51,220 So I felt awkward only in that... "I hope this isn't awkward for you." 959 01:11:00,937 --> 01:11:04,031 The first rehearsal, Pat showed up, 960 01:11:04,073 --> 01:11:06,906 and we actually instantly hit it off, you know? 961 01:11:06,943 --> 01:11:10,640 I sorta got to be friends with him over the course of doing those shows. 962 01:11:14,150 --> 01:11:18,246 Clive Davis came to see us play at one of the acoustic gigs, 963 01:11:18,287 --> 01:11:21,882 and I said, "I think it'd be so cool if we were that band 964 01:11:21,924 --> 01:11:26,190 "where we did the rock show and we had all the people that love the rock show, 965 01:11:26,228 --> 01:11:29,322 "and we did the acoustic show and had all the people that love the acoustic show, 966 01:11:29,365 --> 01:11:31,959 "and they wouldn't necessarily have to go to both." 967 01:11:32,001 --> 01:11:36,734 And Clive was like, "Yes, but you can do both together." 968 01:11:36,772 --> 01:11:41,072 In a total Yoda moment. I was like, "Oh my God, you're right!" 969 01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:44,841 And that was the next album, Echoes, Silence, Patience, & Grace. 970 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,316 Those songs were basically just that. 971 01:11:48,351 --> 01:11:52,617 So that tour and that album before totally shaped the one that happened after. 972 01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:46,561 We were at a point in our career where we thought things couldn't get any bigger. 973 01:13:46,602 --> 01:13:49,765 We've headlined these festivals, played these arenas. 974 01:13:49,805 --> 01:13:52,672 We're perfectly happy with the way things are. 975 01:13:53,242 --> 01:13:57,178 And then John Silva said, "You guys wanna play Wembley Stadium?" 976 01:13:57,713 --> 01:14:01,479 And I said, "Fuck. OK, but wait, how big is that place?" 977 01:14:01,517 --> 01:14:05,647 When you do something like that you put it on sale six months ahead of time 978 01:14:05,688 --> 01:14:08,486 because that's a lot of tickets - 85,000 people. 979 01:14:08,524 --> 01:14:11,288 You need six months to get rid of all those tickets. 980 01:14:11,327 --> 01:14:15,127 And we sold it out. I couldn't believe it. 981 01:14:15,164 --> 01:14:19,430 So we put another one on sale, and it sold out in, like, a few days. 982 01:14:19,468 --> 01:14:23,529 When it sold out like it did, I think everybody in the band was just like, 983 01:14:23,572 --> 01:14:25,233 "What the fuck? How did that happen?" 984 01:14:25,274 --> 01:14:28,038 It was this huge responsibility, this great thing like, 985 01:14:28,077 --> 01:14:31,376 "All right. It's our turn now, like, we have to make it great." 986 01:14:32,248 --> 01:14:35,115 It was six months until we had to play the show. 987 01:14:35,751 --> 01:14:40,245 Every night before I went to sleep for six months, I'd think, 988 01:14:40,289 --> 01:14:42,655 "My God, I have to play fuckin' Wembley Stadium." 989 01:14:42,691 --> 01:14:45,592 Then I'd wake up in the morning, like, "We're playing Wembley!" 990 01:15:00,709 --> 01:15:02,870 Wembley is so big, 991 01:15:02,912 --> 01:15:07,645 and it's like this sort of monster bowl you're playing. 992 01:15:07,683 --> 01:15:11,881 It's just sort of the weight and the responsibility I put on myself 993 01:15:11,921 --> 01:15:14,253 for a show like that, it's intense. 994 01:15:19,662 --> 01:15:22,995 I remember before the first show, I was so nervous, 995 01:15:23,032 --> 01:15:26,695 and I somehow got hot sauce in my eye backstage, 996 01:15:26,735 --> 01:15:27,963 right before we went on, 997 01:15:28,003 --> 01:15:32,303 I was just, "Why now? Why did this have to happen now?" 998 01:15:32,341 --> 01:15:35,174 You don't just go, "Yay, they asked us to do this thing 999 01:15:35,211 --> 01:15:38,942 "and we're gonna go and do our best and see what happens." 1000 01:15:38,981 --> 01:15:42,815 You wanna make sure it becomes the most memorable show you've done. 1001 01:15:42,885 --> 01:15:45,376 And know that you killed it. 1002 01:15:52,628 --> 01:15:55,597 It was nerve-wracking, because it's Wembley Stadium. 1003 01:15:55,631 --> 01:15:59,567 And if you've ever been there, it's so fucking huge. 1004 01:15:59,602 --> 01:16:01,069 It's like an illusion. 1005 01:16:02,204 --> 01:16:06,698 How the fuck did this band get this fuckin' big? 1006 01:16:06,742 --> 01:16:08,937 Can you tell me that? 1007 01:16:55,391 --> 01:16:58,224 When you have 20,000 people 1008 01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:00,854 and there's nosebleeds that are so far away, 1009 01:17:00,896 --> 01:17:04,696 you wanna be able to bring everybody in. 1010 01:17:04,733 --> 01:17:07,930 I want the people up there to feel like they're right there. 1011 01:19:25,407 --> 01:19:28,774 You'd imagine that after playing something like Wembley Stadium 1012 01:19:28,811 --> 01:19:32,542 and playing to 85,000 people, "God, what do we do now?" 1013 01:19:32,581 --> 01:19:33,946 Yeah, it's good. 1014 01:19:33,982 --> 01:19:38,385 It's the same way with records, in a way. This is our seventh record. 1015 01:19:38,420 --> 01:19:42,254 What could we possibly do that's different than the last thing we had done? 1016 01:19:43,792 --> 01:19:47,455 And I thought, "Well... I wanna do the next one in the garage." 1017 01:19:52,334 --> 01:19:56,498 It's about making records the way we used to fucking make records. 1018 01:19:56,538 --> 01:19:59,200 But let's do it with Butch Vig so it's fucking huge. 1019 01:20:03,412 --> 01:20:09,408 Butch Vig is probably most well known for doing Nevermind, the Nirvana record. 1020 01:20:09,451 --> 01:20:12,284 But he's done a ton of stuff through the years. 1021 01:20:12,321 --> 01:20:15,017 He did the last Green Day record and he was in Garbage, 1022 01:20:15,057 --> 01:20:18,925 and he's been a working producer for a long time. 1023 01:20:18,961 --> 01:20:22,829 Dave said, "I wanna make the record in my garage." 1024 01:20:22,865 --> 01:20:27,768 And then he said, "What do you think about making the record on tape?" 1025 01:20:29,104 --> 01:20:32,938 I wanna get away from what people think we should do. 1026 01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:36,575 I learned how to make records on tape. 1027 01:20:36,612 --> 01:20:39,513 And there's something about that process that I love, 1028 01:20:39,548 --> 01:20:44,042 but you can't fix things like when you're working purely in a digital format. 1029 01:20:44,086 --> 01:20:46,520 That's the first thing I said to the band. 1030 01:20:46,555 --> 01:20:49,820 "If we're gonna do this on tape, you guys have to play really well. 1031 01:20:49,858 --> 01:20:51,758 "Because nothing's gonna be fixed." 1032 01:20:54,730 --> 01:20:57,460 I think most people have an idea of how records are made. 1033 01:20:57,499 --> 01:21:00,662 They're made on computers. You can do whatever with computers, 1034 01:21:00,702 --> 01:21:02,897 but we all grew up making records on tape. 1035 01:21:02,938 --> 01:21:05,771 It's got a certain sound. It's got a certain set of limitations. 1036 01:21:05,807 --> 01:21:09,265 You can't go in and just go like, "Well, that's close enough." 1037 01:21:09,311 --> 01:21:11,279 Wow, this is great! 1038 01:21:11,313 --> 01:21:13,474 Rock n' roll is imperfection and flaws 1039 01:21:13,515 --> 01:21:17,281 and four or five or six or eight people playing together. 1040 01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:21,255 It's not gonna line up. It's gonna be a little fucked up. It should be. 1041 01:21:21,290 --> 01:21:23,622 Human beings aren't perfect. 1042 01:21:23,659 --> 01:21:25,286 You wanna say hello? 1043 01:21:25,327 --> 01:21:27,261 Hi! 1044 01:21:27,296 --> 01:21:31,062 What was really different was the environment, doing it at Dave's house. 1045 01:21:31,099 --> 01:21:34,899 Which is the most comfortable environment you can imagine. 1046 01:21:34,937 --> 01:21:38,304 It's like... It's just fun to be there anyways. 1047 01:21:38,340 --> 01:21:41,468 I think the atmosphere of where you're recording has to come out on the record. 1048 01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:42,943 I don't see how it couldn't. 1049 01:21:42,978 --> 01:21:45,572 Look at this crew. Look at the Hawkins! 1050 01:21:46,181 --> 01:21:48,308 What, are you kidding me? 1051 01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:50,318 The engineers and everybody at one point were like, 1052 01:21:50,352 --> 01:21:53,082 "OK, we're gonna need this and this and this. 1053 01:21:53,121 --> 01:21:55,749 "$700,000 worth of outboard gear." 1054 01:21:55,791 --> 01:21:59,818 And Dave's like, "No, no, no. We're making a record in a garage!" 1055 01:22:06,969 --> 01:22:09,733 I love that we're about to make an album at home. 1056 01:22:09,771 --> 01:22:13,434 I think the album's gonna sound like that. I know it will. 1057 01:22:18,380 --> 01:22:20,974 If we need to have three different drum sounds, 1058 01:22:21,016 --> 01:22:24,110 wouldn't it be cool to have them crossfade into each other, 1059 01:22:24,152 --> 01:22:26,677 like as the other drum sound's starting to come up 1060 01:22:26,722 --> 01:22:28,690 and the other one's going back? 1061 01:22:28,724 --> 01:22:32,057 Wouldn't it be cool if we had a bucket of KFC right now? 1062 01:22:33,996 --> 01:22:36,829 So in recording, it usually begins with Taylor and I. 1063 01:22:36,865 --> 01:22:39,561 The drums first, with the guitar, 1064 01:22:39,601 --> 01:22:44,561 and at first it's really to see if Taylor and I 1065 01:22:44,606 --> 01:22:46,699 lock in with each other. 1066 01:23:00,255 --> 01:23:01,381 Did I miss my cue? 1067 01:23:01,423 --> 01:23:02,617 Yes, you did. 1068 01:23:02,658 --> 01:23:06,719 I go through a process, sort of a self-Ioathing, "I suck" process 1069 01:23:06,762 --> 01:23:08,127 when I'm recording drums. 1070 01:23:08,163 --> 01:23:11,189 I tend to think I'm the worst drummer in the world. 1071 01:23:12,067 --> 01:23:13,796 Fuck. 1072 01:23:13,835 --> 01:23:16,702 Sorry. I messed up the pattern a little bit. 1073 01:23:16,738 --> 01:23:17,762 OK. 1074 01:23:19,741 --> 01:23:22,403 When I go back and listen to the recording, 1075 01:23:22,444 --> 01:23:25,174 I'm like, "I'm all over the place." It's not great. 1076 01:23:26,682 --> 01:23:28,616 Why? Why, God, why? 1077 01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:31,175 Sorry, I broke a drumstick! 1078 01:23:31,219 --> 01:23:35,087 Then it slowly evolves and comes together after a couple hours, 1079 01:23:35,123 --> 01:23:37,353 and I have a drum track I'm really proud of. 1080 01:23:47,002 --> 01:23:48,993 The drums are finished. 1081 01:23:50,906 --> 01:23:54,069 I'm still not sure about These Days. I could sit there and agonize all day 1082 01:23:54,109 --> 01:23:58,136 over one little snare hit or fuckin'... the way a groove feels. 1083 01:23:58,180 --> 01:23:59,977 - And you will. - And I will. 1084 01:24:00,015 --> 01:24:04,008 They'll play it on the radio and you'll go, "Damn! That fuckin' snare hit!" 1085 01:24:04,052 --> 01:24:07,385 Maybe we should have just ProTooled the fuck out of this record. 1086 01:24:07,422 --> 01:24:09,788 At least you know it's perfect. 1087 01:24:42,157 --> 01:24:45,615 When you're recording analogue like this, knowing it can't be fixed 1088 01:24:45,660 --> 01:24:50,120 brings a factor to the way the band thinks about how they're gonna play. 1089 01:24:50,165 --> 01:24:53,623 For instance, Nate, before he would do his bass part, 1090 01:24:53,668 --> 01:24:55,727 would go out in the tent and work out his part, 1091 01:24:55,771 --> 01:24:59,502 so when he came in to play, he knew everything he was gonna do. 1092 01:25:30,872 --> 01:25:31,930 I think it sounds great. 1093 01:25:31,973 --> 01:25:32,962 It sounds awesome. 1094 01:25:33,008 --> 01:25:34,066 Yeah, it sounds awesome. 1095 01:26:09,344 --> 01:26:11,539 Is the bass or anything doing... 1096 01:26:12,948 --> 01:26:15,849 Is the bass or anything doing a note coming out of... 1097 01:26:17,719 --> 01:26:21,746 Is there anything like that? Is that gonna, do you want one? 1098 01:26:28,230 --> 01:26:30,198 - You know what I mean? - I'd maybe not do that. 1099 01:26:30,232 --> 01:26:31,460 Don't do that. 1100 01:26:33,668 --> 01:26:37,468 That was very non-confrontational. "Maybe don't do that." 1101 01:26:37,506 --> 01:26:40,134 I would maybe not ever do that in the song. 1102 01:26:40,175 --> 01:26:42,837 I'm the guy that plays the rhythm straight up the middle. 1103 01:26:42,878 --> 01:26:44,675 And then you have Chris, 1104 01:26:44,746 --> 01:26:49,046 and Chris has a really sharp and clean sense of melodic playing. 1105 01:26:50,352 --> 01:26:51,751 Then over here, there's Pat. 1106 01:26:51,786 --> 01:26:54,755 And it's like... when Pat puts on a guitar it just goes... 1107 01:27:05,834 --> 01:27:09,361 All of those things... If they're balanced it sounds like the Foo Fighters. 1108 01:27:09,404 --> 01:27:11,395 Did we finally get too grungy? 1109 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:16,502 It's never too grungy! I wonder if it's just, you're losing, like, the notes. 1110 01:27:29,824 --> 01:27:33,487 We've had this expanded band now for the last couple albums. 1111 01:27:47,542 --> 01:27:50,807 As a musician, it's a dream to be able to play with as many people 1112 01:27:50,845 --> 01:27:52,836 and do as many different things as you can. 1113 01:27:53,848 --> 01:27:56,715 So where should we start? What do you wanna start with? 1114 01:27:56,751 --> 01:27:59,481 We gotta get Bob fuckin' rockin' and rollin'. 1115 01:27:59,521 --> 01:28:00,852 What am I doing here? 1116 01:28:00,889 --> 01:28:04,882 I just learned the song, I got it in my head. What do you want me to do? 1117 01:28:07,262 --> 01:28:12,529 When you meet someone that really helped you become the musician that you are, 1118 01:28:12,567 --> 01:28:15,365 I really think it's important to acknowledge that. 1119 01:28:29,250 --> 01:28:31,912 Bob's voice is so signature, 1120 01:28:31,953 --> 01:28:34,217 and to have him come to my fuckin' house 1121 01:28:34,255 --> 01:28:38,214 and do it on my fuckin' record blows me away. 1122 01:28:38,259 --> 01:28:40,989 All right, cool. You wanna do the bridge? 1123 01:28:41,029 --> 01:28:42,462 What do you wanna do, Bob? 1124 01:28:42,497 --> 01:28:43,964 Come on in. 1125 01:28:43,999 --> 01:28:46,490 I didn't write the middle section of the song, 1126 01:28:46,534 --> 01:28:50,630 because I wanted to write it with Bob, while Bob was there. 1127 01:28:55,176 --> 01:28:58,373 But I didn't have the words, so I sort of explained it, 1128 01:28:58,413 --> 01:29:01,610 and we tried it once just with phonetic crap. 1129 01:29:14,195 --> 01:29:15,492 Is that gonna make sense? 1130 01:29:15,530 --> 01:29:16,622 I think so. 1131 01:29:17,632 --> 01:29:19,930 OK, let me write something really quick. 1132 01:29:21,002 --> 01:29:23,129 OK, five-minute lyrics. 1133 01:29:23,171 --> 01:29:25,435 OK, give me a five-minute lyric break. 1134 01:29:25,473 --> 01:29:26,497 Clock's runnin'. 1135 01:29:33,448 --> 01:29:34,506 Dad? 1136 01:29:34,549 --> 01:29:35,607 Yeah? 1137 01:29:35,650 --> 01:29:37,550 Remember you said you'll swim? 1138 01:29:37,585 --> 01:29:41,146 I know, I have to write these words really quick, so I can go sing it. 1139 01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:42,349 OK. 1140 01:29:45,627 --> 01:29:46,924 OK. 1141 01:29:51,232 --> 01:29:53,359 One, two, you know what to do... 1142 01:30:23,765 --> 01:30:24,891 That sounds so good! 1143 01:30:24,933 --> 01:30:30,200 That is so fucking cool, you guys! You can hear, it's really good. 1144 01:30:30,238 --> 01:30:32,570 Some of the songs still had question marks, you know, 1145 01:30:32,607 --> 01:30:35,508 the biggest song being I Should Have Known. 1146 01:30:35,577 --> 01:30:38,102 That song became sort of the X factor in the album. 1147 01:31:00,268 --> 01:31:01,462 Yep, that's cool. 1148 01:31:01,503 --> 01:31:02,697 Fuckin' A, right? 1149 01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:51,377 I kinda feel like I Should Have Known 1150 01:31:51,419 --> 01:31:56,379 is a song that's about Dave's past, 1151 01:31:56,424 --> 01:32:00,588 and I think there are definitely references in there about Nirvana and Kurt. 1152 01:32:01,596 --> 01:32:03,564 Fuckin' A, man. 1153 01:32:03,598 --> 01:32:05,361 That's really good. 1154 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,061 When I first started writing that song, 1155 01:32:07,101 --> 01:32:10,502 it was about someone else that I was involved with, 1156 01:32:10,538 --> 01:32:12,665 and at the end of the day, I said to myself, 1157 01:32:12,707 --> 01:32:15,938 "I should have known that this was gonna happen." 1158 01:32:19,747 --> 01:32:20,873 But when I sing that song, 1159 01:32:20,915 --> 01:32:25,545 it's hard not to think about all of the times in my life that's happened. 1160 01:32:34,929 --> 01:32:36,021 Hey, Krist! 1161 01:32:36,097 --> 01:32:37,359 Hello! 1162 01:32:38,566 --> 01:32:41,091 We had Krist Novoselic come in and play bass on I Should Have Known. 1163 01:32:41,135 --> 01:32:43,035 That was a very special moment, 1164 01:32:43,071 --> 01:32:45,596 'cause I had not been in the same room with Dave and Krist 1165 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,437 since we finished Nevermind. 1166 01:32:55,316 --> 01:32:57,978 It does that back and forth twice, then it does the turnaround chords. 1167 01:32:58,019 --> 01:33:02,046 Yeah, it goes, D sharp, G, D sharp, G, F, C, 1168 01:33:02,123 --> 01:33:05,115 then it goes back in D sharp, G, D sharp... 1169 01:33:05,159 --> 01:33:06,990 It's like a six chord. 1170 01:33:07,028 --> 01:33:08,359 So it goes... 1171 01:33:23,678 --> 01:33:24,702 How was the tone? 1172 01:33:24,746 --> 01:33:26,714 I think it fuckin' sounds gnarly. 1173 01:33:26,748 --> 01:33:29,581 There, it's done. Seriously. 1174 01:33:29,617 --> 01:33:31,084 That's all you get, motherfucker. 1175 01:33:31,119 --> 01:33:34,611 I was not surprised that Dave asked Krist to play on the record. 1176 01:33:34,656 --> 01:33:39,821 I was surprised it hadn't happened any other time in the last 16 years. 1177 01:33:39,861 --> 01:33:44,264 You never realize how important the bass sound is to the sound of a band 1178 01:33:44,299 --> 01:33:47,735 until you put it in another band and go, "Oh, there it is." 1179 01:34:04,285 --> 01:34:06,276 I think what Krist played on the song 1180 01:34:06,321 --> 01:34:10,724 was the absolute perfect thing for him to do on a Foo Fighters record. 1181 01:34:25,306 --> 01:34:28,139 I think that might be the ending. We've found it. 1182 01:34:29,877 --> 01:34:31,003 Yeah, sample my phone. 1183 01:34:31,045 --> 01:34:32,706 The ice cream truck. 1184 01:34:37,218 --> 01:34:40,210 It usually takes us a while to name an album. 1185 01:34:41,656 --> 01:34:44,250 But I decided to call the record Wasting Light, 1186 01:34:44,292 --> 01:34:46,522 because I honestly feel like 1187 01:34:46,561 --> 01:34:51,362 I don't wanna let one minute of this go without really feeling it. 1188 01:35:21,729 --> 01:35:25,563 The best way to prepare to playing to 85,000 people 1189 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,727 is to play at these small club gigs. 1190 01:35:27,769 --> 01:35:31,500 Because that's kind of a true test. You go to see an arena rock band. 1191 01:35:31,539 --> 01:35:34,565 They're pretty good, but would they be any good at the Roxy? 1192 01:35:49,991 --> 01:35:51,117 Hold the fuckin'... 1193 01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:52,786 Then bask in the glory for a minute. 1194 01:36:01,035 --> 01:36:06,905 Having Scream be the first band on the bill, my heroes from my childhood, 1195 01:36:06,941 --> 01:36:10,001 the band that I dropped out of high school to join, 1196 01:36:10,044 --> 01:36:13,207 to see them sharing the stage with my band Foo Fighters 1197 01:36:13,247 --> 01:36:16,045 was a really big deal to me. 1198 01:36:22,957 --> 01:36:24,390 Yeah, good night, y'all. 1199 01:36:24,425 --> 01:36:26,256 Thank you. 1200 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,173 You guys wanna hear the new record? 1201 01:36:56,357 --> 01:36:58,416 The Foo Fighters sound like the Foo Fighters 1202 01:36:58,459 --> 01:37:02,623 because it's me, and Taylor, and Nate, and Chris, and Pat. 1203 01:37:02,663 --> 01:37:05,530 If it were anyone else, it would sound different. 1204 01:37:05,566 --> 01:37:08,091 You never wanna lose anybody, 1205 01:37:08,136 --> 01:37:12,300 and you never wanna see someone disappear out of your life, 1206 01:37:12,373 --> 01:37:15,865 but we wouldn't be here if it were different with William. 1207 01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:18,606 We wouldn't be here if it were different with Franz. 1208 01:37:18,646 --> 01:37:22,548 I feel bad about the bad things, I feel good about the good things, 1209 01:37:22,583 --> 01:37:24,710 but I wouldn't change a thing. 1210 01:38:00,488 --> 01:38:02,649 We've worked hard, and we've made a great band. 1211 01:38:02,690 --> 01:38:05,022 I'm incapable of doing almost anything else 1212 01:38:05,059 --> 01:38:07,220 at this point in time, so this is what I do. 1213 01:38:07,261 --> 01:38:11,129 I'm an adult that plays in a rock band. How about that? 1214 01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:24,403 I've had people say in interviews, 1215 01:38:24,445 --> 01:38:27,471 "So, Taylor, what is it like to be a rock star?" 1216 01:38:27,515 --> 01:38:30,712 And I'm like, "Fuck you. I'm not a rock star. I'm a musician." 1217 01:38:51,606 --> 01:38:53,904 It's a functional family, you know what I mean? 1218 01:38:53,941 --> 01:38:56,910 I go to work coming up here, 1219 01:38:56,944 --> 01:38:59,412 and I just fucking laugh all day and play great music. 1220 01:39:23,437 --> 01:39:26,235 There will probably always, to some extent, be that feeling, 1221 01:39:26,274 --> 01:39:29,607 "This could all end tomorrow. Who the fuck knows, you know?" 1222 01:39:29,644 --> 01:39:31,578 We're all pretty lucky that we get to do this 1223 01:39:31,612 --> 01:39:34,479 and we have to enjoy it while it's here and make the most of it. 1224 01:39:51,499 --> 01:39:57,597 It's a crazy feeling when something goes from a spark of imagination 1225 01:39:57,638 --> 01:40:00,106 to something you can hold in your hands. 1226 01:40:00,141 --> 01:40:02,075 That first cassette... 1227 01:40:03,344 --> 01:40:06,609 made in five fuckin' days or whatever, 1228 01:40:06,647 --> 01:40:12,381 and here we are. It's just like, "Whoa. How the fuck did this happen?" 1229 01:40:46,787 --> 01:40:48,880 Honestly, had I taken this whole career thing seriously, 1230 01:40:48,923 --> 01:40:50,254 I would've named it something else, 1231 01:40:50,291 --> 01:40:52,555 'cause it's the worst fuckin' band name in the world! 109113

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