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All art, in a way,
is the creation of illusion.
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He did it. The
greatest goal scorer in National Hockey League history.
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It's Wayne Gretzky.
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Goal! Pelé!
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Jerry Rice is
just unstoppable.
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Jerry Rice showing
you why he's the best
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receiver in the National
Football League.
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The world illusion
is the idea of
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measurement with certain
systems of numbers.
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Whether it be so many...
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I don't think I was the most
talented receiver
to play in NFL.
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What does
talented even mean?
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Talented, I'm talking about
size-wise, speed-wise,
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you look at The Combine, and
they base so much off the 40.
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If you can run
a good 40 time,
that can throw you right
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up into the first round,
but that doesn't mean...
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uh, that you're going to be
a great football player.
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Let me tell you.
If they had me in the Hockey
Combine, I would probably be
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rated at the lowest, because
I couldn't bench 195 once.
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Jumping is not
something that I was great at.
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My cardio was my forte, so I
would do well at the anaerobic
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part of it, but that doesn't
make you a hockey player.
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That's only part of making
you a hockey player.
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Sometimes we read way
too much into this stuff.
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If you lined me up to run
a 40-yard dash and I didn't
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have the uniform on,
there's no way I could've
run a good 40-yard dash.
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And that was the knock on me,
that I was not fast
like these sprinters,
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these guys that could run a 4-2,
but I knew I had football speed.
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I loved the fact that people
didn't think I was fast.
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There's a difference
between being fast
going around the rink once...
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but getting to loose pucks
is a whole different speed,
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and it's a whole
different kind of fast.
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As he gets a step on
O'Callahan, off he goes,
Gretzky.
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...coming up... He scores.
Gretzky with that
deceptive speed.
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I didn't have the hardest
shot in the game,
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but I guarantee
that I had one of
the most accurate shots.
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If I saw a spot, I'm
going to put it there.
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Perfect spot.
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I love data, right?
I love data analysis
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and sports data analytics,
but I think
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there are cases in which we
become too slavish to it.
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So there's this...
this almost desire to validate
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everything by data,
and it's backward.
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It's making something important
because we can measure it.
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It's not measuring it
because it's important,
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and so I think it can end up
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putting coaches in a sort of
pigeon hole, where
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everything they have to do
has to be measurable.
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Poor build, skinny.
Lacks mobility and
ability to avoid...
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Lacks a very strong arm.
Lacks great physical stature.
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One of the slowest
quarterbacks in The Combine.
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I think The Combine measures
are stupid, so that's
a different thing.
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They don't test for
creativity at all.
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I'm not against stats or data,
it's all very important.
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Diagnostically, it's helpful.
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The problem is, it-- it--
the tail has started to
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wag the dog here
in all kinds of fields.
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If the stats come to
dominate your judgment,
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then you're not showing
any judgment at all.
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The game is about
having the puck.
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The game is about scoring goals.
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It's not about push-ups and how
high a guy can jump off the ice.
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Why don't people
say, "We need guys
like Wayne Gretzky."
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-Yes.
-Someone study him.
Do what he does.
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Why does
everyone look at you and say,
"This is the exception."
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-I mean, everyone
wants to see a Wayne Gretzky.
-Yeah.
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When the human genome
was sequenced, there was
this hopeful thinking
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that there'd be one gene that
has the shape of your nose
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and one gene
determines you height
et cetera, et cetera.
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But it actually turns out
the networks of genes
work together in
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incredibly complicated ways
that then interact
with the environment.
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Who is the most
impressive athlete
that you've ever seen?
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The Garrincha rose to the top of world football is even more
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remarkable when you consider
that he was born
with such a disability.
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Garrincha was a
physical impossibility.
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He had one knee that went in
and one knee that went out.
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Normally, people have both knees going in or both going out.
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In theory, he shouldn't
have even been able to walk.
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Fans are having
a hard time breathing.
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Completely unpredictable.
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But his disability
influenced his style.
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Rocky Marciano was one
of the greatest heavyweights by
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common consent in the history
of heavyweight boxing.
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He was fierce and
completely unconventional.
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He was lighter than most
heavyweights, shorter
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than many of them
and had a very short reach.
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67 inches, this way here,
which is not very long.
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If you took that
as a stat, then you'd never
hire the guy.
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You had to devise this
style of punch
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fighting that you did
because of the short reach?
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Yes, that was the big reason.
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I had to sort of get low and try
to come up, as we say,
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from underneath to get
in close on an opponent
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because the closer
I could get to an opponent,
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the more damage I could do
with the short arms.
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He realized the limitations
of his own physique
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and developed a whole new style
of boxing that suited him.
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A left. Another left
a blazing right...
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He knocked out Joe Louis.
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He had over 40 professional
fights and never lost.
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Mean hard punches
are definitely weakening
the challenger.
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What punch did you feel that you
knocked Joe Walcott down with?
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I thought it was
the right uppercut
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that really knocked him out.
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He didn't fit
the textbook at all,
but he turned out
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to be one of the greatest
heavyweight boxers, ever.
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Part of my creativity
was survival.
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I didn't have that sort
of strength and size to be
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able to combat myself physically
against other guys.
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At 14, I moved to Toronto
to play bantam hockey,
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and I'm thinking, "Gosh, I
was like 5"6 1/2, 125 pounds.
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Now I'm playing with some men."
On the very first practice,
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this coach had me on the ice
and he said, "When you go home
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tonight, the Leafs are playing
Philadelphia Flyers." He said,
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"You spend the next month and
you watch Bobby Clarke play."
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Bobby Clarke was
the first centerman
that played on the power play
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and played the game
out of the corners,
not so much from behind the net.
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I studied him and I studied him
and I watched him.
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It was new for people.
I started playing out of the
corner and from behind the net
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because nobody
had ever done that before.
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And I started
using the net as a decoy.
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Consequently, I wasn't standing
in front getting knocked over
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and being on my keister
the whole time.
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Gretzky,
still with it.
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Hanging on behind the net.
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Still has it.
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Centered it, scored!
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Well, you know, you can't
chase him behind the net.
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How are you going to
stop that play?
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By the time they sort of... kind
of figured it out, I'd retired.
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So, even at 13, 14
when I was playing
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against 19, 20-year-olds,
and then
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17 years old against men,
I didn't have to change
my game because
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my game always was the same in
the sense that I
wasn't going to rely
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on speed or power,
that wasn't going to
get me to the next level.
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What was going to get me
to the next level
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was my wisdom
and my vision on the ice.
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Jerry, okay,
so do you feel like you
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have better genetics
than anyone?
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No, no, no.
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I worked on certain qualities
that maybe I was lacking.
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Say, because of my speed, I
had to run disciplined routes.
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Timing is everything.
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I got to have
this clock in my head.
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The ball is halfway to you
before you come out
of that realm.
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There's no such thing as a sports gene,
but there are innate biological factors
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that predispose
some people for being
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successful in some sports, but
I don't think that's really
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where we should look for the
competitive advantage anymore.
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That takes care of itself, that
filter, so the question is,
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where else do you look
for the competitive advantage?
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What else is important?
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-Mama.
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At a very early age,
children learn to speak.
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Nobody teaches them
how to do it.
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Cause you couldn't,
it's far too complicated.
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If you got a child, you
don't sit this child down
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at the age of 18 months and say,
"Look, we need to talk."
No, they learn to do it,
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and they'll learn
five languages if
they are exposed to them.
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If they are exposed to them
at an early enough age,
they will learn
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all sort of things which may
become more difficult later on.
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How old are you, Tiger?
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Two?
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That's the key to learning skills,
is setting up an environment
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where someone learns implicitly
the same way we learn language,
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so that you create an
environment that forces them to
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learn things
without articulating
exactly what they're learning.
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When I was four years old, I
used to watch hockey in Canada,
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and I would take a piece
of paper and draw a rink.
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Then without
looking at the paper,
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I watched a hockey game on TV
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and I would
take my pen and I would
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follow the puck, and I would
just... for 20 minutes.
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I would see where-- which part
of the ice the puck was in more
often than the other side,
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and I would do it every game.
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Nobody told me to do it.
Nobody...
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Your dad didn't
say, "Try this out"?
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Because it seems
like it's so simple.
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Yes.
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What I would do just to get
the feel of the football
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when I was in bed, I would toss
the ball up in the air
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and it was black dark
in the room, and being able
to catch the football,
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knowing exactly where
I positioned the ball
and being able to catch it.
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Developing skill in anything is
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this process
of self-discovering.
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Anyone who's ever enjoyed
training is because,
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not just the game, the training,
they love that process of
self-discovery and of changing
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themselves and figuring
out how that works.
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When we were kids,
we used to knock on doors
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with your friends and say,
"Do you want to play?"
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That's what we did, we went
and played and we
learned and we got creative.
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When I was ten years old, I
played in a minor hockey team in
my hometown Brantford, Ontario
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and there was a team
in just the north
of Toronto, and every
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tournament, they beat us
3-2 or 4-3 in the final.
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I remembered being in the car one day
and driving home from the tournament.
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My dad was driving, and my dad
said the most incredible
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statement, I always remembered
since I was ten years old.
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He said, "You know, their
team is better as a team than
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you guys are." but he said,
"I'll promise you one thing.
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There won't be one boy from that
team that ever plays in the NHL,
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because they're too structured,
they play too much
of a team game.
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The defense stay back,
the left-wing and right-wing
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stay on their side,
and for kids, that's
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not the way to play."
Sure enough, there wasn't
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one kid on that team
that made pro hockey.
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We had five boys
off our minor team
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that made
the National Hockey League.
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There's a great study recently
out of the German soccer team
that just won the World Cup,
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looking at the development path
of the guys who made the
national team
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and the guys who were one rung
below that, and the only
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big difference they could come
up with was that the guys who
made the national team had a lot
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more time in unstructured
small-sided play
when they were young
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where the field might just be
like an alley that wasn't
normal proportions
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and continued with more
unstructured play into pros.
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That was the main
difference they could find.
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A big part of it is giving
people the freedom
to experiment,
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to try and fail and make
mistakes when they're younger.
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You actually see this in chess.
If kids study too rigidly
certain types of openings,
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they literally become stuck
in a certain pattern of playing
and hit a plateau
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and never get better.
They have to be
given a certain amount of
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unstructured time to create
and to find themselves.
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If you take ten kids
through a pond today
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and said to them, "All right,
go play." They'd say,
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"Well, what do we do?"
Because they're all so
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structured now
and it's so analytical now.
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We were much freer to come
and go then than I think
kids are now.
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There was much more free time
in school than there is now.
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We've lost our creativity
and imagination that
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we used to have in
the '60s and '70s and '80s.
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I was looking at a
report recently saying that,
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on average,
kids today in urban settings
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in America have
less unstructured time
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than the average
high-security prisoner.
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And if you think of it,
that's probably right.
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Medium high-security
prisoners get to get
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outside for like
a half an hour a day.
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There's so much competitive
balance now in sports,
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and there is so much money
involved in
the sporting world now.
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The parents of eight, nine
and ten-year-old kids
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are putting them in home school,
they go to hockey academies,
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they go to football academies.
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They all have that
dream of, "Okay, my son
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can make it
and make all this money."
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I think there's
this now, sort of, especially
in sports, these forces that
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push parents
towards specializing
as early as possible in a sport.
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Where it's like, "Whoa, if your
kid's not on the five-year-old
travel team,
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then they're not going to be ready for the
six-year-old travel team."
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Whereas the development of
actual lead athletes is
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that they sample a bunch of
sports early on, and only later
do they specialize.
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I didn't start playing football
till my sophomore year
in high school
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because, to be honest, my mom,
she didn't want me to play.
She said it was too violent.
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I was a kid that
when season ended,
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I threw my bag of hockey
equipment down in the basement,
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couldn't wait to get
my baseball glove on,
we dreamed of whether it was
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a world series
or whether we were playing
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pick-up basketball or pond
hockey, that we were that guy.
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I had the same passion and dream of
playing major league baseball,
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but I wasn't quite as good
and didn't make baseball.
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I read that you studied karate a little bit.
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Did that help
you understand soccer?
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I remember back
in the day, Bruce Lee,
that was my favorite movie, man.
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This dude, the way he could you know,
fight, he was. It was amazing.
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And his toughness and all that.
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When you're in football, you got to be
able to fight for your ground.
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Each and every sport
you participate in
helps the sport you mostly love.
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Lacrosse is all hand-eye coordination,
baseball, the mentality
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and the thinking of the game and
having to be aware of
each and every moment.
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There's one out, there's two
out, there's runner and first,
and that all rolls into
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the creativity
and imagination that I had
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to have to become
the athlete I became.
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Ironically, as well, I
think parents who can afford it,
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they're trying to give their
kids the best start they can by
over-scheduling them,
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they become like social
secretaries for their own kids,
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where they're driving
from this club to that club,
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all in the belief
that in doing that, they're
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giving them the best
possible start.
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But actually, what kids often
need is just time to hang out.
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They want the best for them, but it
manifests in this over-management,
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in this trying to
tell them how to do
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something, and it's just--
you can't work that way.
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Act like
you want to play this game.
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-I am.
-No, you're not.
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You're moping around, going half in
the mile not getting the play.
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What is that?
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Come on, guys.
You're killing me.
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Parents come up to me and say,
"Will you tell my son how
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many hours a day you used to
practice?" I say, "I didn't.
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You know, it was a passion. I would be
there all day long because I loved it."
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Now, if you tell a ten-year-old, "You got
to practice three hours a day
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because Wayne Gretzky did." That's not
going to work. That's not going to cut it.
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What did it mean
to his career?
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Well, we weren't
concerned about his career.
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All we were concerned about
is letting him
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live a life like everybody else.
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A 14-year-old boy,
that's all he is.
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It was not life and death for us as a
family that I had to play sports.
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My case has always been that
childhood is about the precious
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time and that
lays the foundation
for the rest of your life.
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-You know why you're famous?
-Yes.
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-Why?
-Because.
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-Do you love being a ninja warrior?
-Yes.
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-Were you born to be a ninja warrior?
-No.
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Part of that is
just learning to play
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and relax and to do
things where the stakes
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aren't too high and without
necessarily having to pass
a test as a result.
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- And he's off!
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Look at the athleticism
from Yoshi.
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I think there's
a fine line between
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being supportive in a way that's
either going to make them
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lose the love of
what they're doing...
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Wow, look at
the upper body strength.
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...or is going to make their
learning like, "This is exactly
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what I have to do," where
they're tightened up like this.
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Yoshi! Yoshi!
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I remember at 13, 14,
buddies would call me
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and say, "We're
going to the movies today.
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You want to go to a movie
on Saturday afternoon?"
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"No." My dad would be saying, "You're
going to a movie or not?"
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"No, I don't want to go.
This is what I want to do."
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I go in the backyard
and shoot pucks for two hours.
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It's what made me happy.
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Playing is
a musical thing.
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It is a dance.
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It is an expression of delight.
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Well, if it wasn't for my dad,
I would never have made it.
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My dad made me
the athlete I was, he made it--
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Did he know
a lot about hockey?
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He knew enough.
He was a very smart man, my dad.
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Very intelligent.
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He seems to have eyes
in the back of his head
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at times,
but instead of forcing against
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the check, he has a knack
of rolling with the check
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and he never gets
hurt badly in that respect.
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- You're not scared?
-No.
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He was smart enough to
realize, for whatever reason,
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I had a gift and he pushed
that gift to another level.
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When I was a kid
and we used to do drills,
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I would do drills with
tennis balls, and everybody
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would say, "Why is he
stick-handling with tennis
balls?" My dad would say,
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"Tennis balls bounce.
When you're on the ice,
if it's bouncing,
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it's harder to control,
and if you learn how to control
the tennis ball, it's going
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to be a lot easier
to control the puck."
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He is shooting,
he scores!
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You see these rackets here,
we teach the girls to throw
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the racket, and the reason we
train that way is because
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we know that most girls
are not able to throw
that well, and that's
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why they are serving that
as it should be
in most cases.
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To me, that's one of the hardest
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things ever to do
as a professional athlete,
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is following the footsteps
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of your dad, simple as that.
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My dad, he was a very... he was a
disciplinarian and stuff like that,
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and he was one of those guys
you didn't mess around with.
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If he wanted you to be
somewhere at a certain time,
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you had to be at that place
early or right on time.
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20 years, I played football.
20 years.
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I was late once, and I was late
because I was caught in traffic.
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- Was your mom just as tough as your dad?
-Uh, you know...
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You know, we always talk about
the father being the backbone of
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the family and all that,
but I think it was my mom.
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What I learned from my mom is that,
uh, it's okay to be nice to everyone.
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I mean, even if you don't feel
like it, take the time, be nice.
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It can go a long, long way.
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If you sat down and interviewed
my dad, he'd tell you
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he can make another Wayne
Gretzky because it's all about--
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- You have brothers too.
-Well...
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-Were they as motivated as you?
-Not quite as motivated.
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They loved it,
but not quite like I did.
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- They had the same kind of training and...-Yes.
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-...instruction?
-Sure.
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They did
everything I did, except
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maybe didn't do it as much.
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Then the other thing that
they had to deal with
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that I didn't, was the pressures of
being Wayne Gretzky's brother.
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What do you think
is the best of your game?
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The best part of my game?
Go ahead.
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I think It would be my return
serves and my backhand.
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It was hard because
it was all about Venus
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and you know, seeing her
get all this attention
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and you don't
want to feel like you're
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not worthy or
you're not as good.
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When you're doing the same thing, but
you're not getting any attention for it,
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it was kind of hard.
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I had to fight for everything
that I have.
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I had to work so hard
to get to her level.
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Serena will probably be
a better player than Venus.
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That's not to compare
my girls, but she will be.
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Explains my whole
attitude in the court.
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Serena, it something like
a pit bull dog.
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Once she get a hold
to you, she won't let go.
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Miss Williams
win-win championship match.
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The younger sister will take home
the bigger trophy again.
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But now the embrace.
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That's the biggest rule.
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When it comes to
coaching and teaching
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and this
pressure for conformity,
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Um, is the...
The assumption that there is
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a formula that you can follow, and if you
just get the formula right,
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if it's a great formula,
you will be great.
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This is easier.
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-Yes, we can handle it.
-It's okay.
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The system itself is based on conformity
and compliance and standardization.
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If we know anything about people, they
are diverse, creative and want
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fulfillment and meaning, not drudgery
and a kind of dreary, repetitive existence.
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So, if you promote conformity, don't be
surprised if that's what you get.
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It's much more often
the case that
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the people who achieve real greatness
don't fit the formula at all.
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In fact, they break the mold, they
do something completely different,
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and that's true in all areas
around, true about David Bowie.
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Because he
wasn't trying to conform,
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his music was pretty dangerous
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and right on the edge and he didn't
know if he'd ever come back from it.
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I had a day when I was playing hooky
just a little bit from class,
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and the principal, he walked up
behind me, he scared me,
he noticed I could run fast.
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After I got punished, he wanted
me to go out for the football
team and I went out.
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And, everything else is history.
That's it.
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Yes, I had one or two coaches
that weren't exactly on my side.
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They wanted me to
play sort of a system
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and a style that I wasn't
accustomed to.
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Consequently, that was
one of the reasons
why I left Brantford.
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The coaching wasn't copacetic
to the style of play
that I was playing
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and I knew it wasn't going to
get any different
as I got older.
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I got a chance to see videos
of kids in the Netherlands who
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were tracked from the age
of 12 up to professional soccer.
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The Netherlands is
really good at soccer.
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You'd see the kids at
age 12 who went on to the pros.
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There was a lot of differences in behavior
within them, but a lot of them were these
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ones who were going up
to their coach being like,
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"Why are we
doing this drill again?
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What's this helping me work on?
I think I can already do this.
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It's too easy."
And the coach is like .
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It doesn't mean, from the
beginning, they disrespect
all the rules,
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they just think there's some
other way to do this.
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Look at this,
Tom Brady and Bill O'Brien.
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We just still relish the sheer
outrage that people felt
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when John McEnroe,
with his sweatband
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and this kind of afro
walked off the hallowed turf
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of Wimbledon and started
screaming at the judge.
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You can't be serious, man.
You cannot be serious.
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That ball was on the line.
Shot blew up.
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His point was, "Now, I spent
my life practicing this sport."
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-"Calling this ball out
is a very big deal for me."
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How can you
possibly call that out?
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They'll keep walking over,
everyone knows it's
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in the whole Stadium,
and you call it out?
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"This is my career
we're talking about, and this is
447
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:20,404
a bad call." But they tried
everything they could to box
448
00:33:20,429 --> 00:33:22,233
him back in and to tell him
just to toe the line,
449
00:33:22,275 --> 00:33:27,005
literally, but the net result
was, he improved the game.
450
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:31,629
They improved the training of judges,
they improved the technology
451
00:33:31,654 --> 00:33:34,605
for line calls, and he
was making a very serious point.
452
00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:38,334
But at the time, people just saw him
as some kind of hooligan.
453
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:44,293
That balance of freedom
and control is very important.
454
00:33:44,318 --> 00:33:49,853
You see it in every field. It's like
at Woodstock when Jimi Hendrix
455
00:33:49,878 --> 00:33:51,842
started playing
The Star Spangled Banner.
456
00:34:01,891 --> 00:34:04,266
Nobody'd ever heard
it played like that before.
457
00:34:06,016 --> 00:34:07,891
All senses, it turns out.
458
00:34:12,076 --> 00:34:16,125
He was so recognized for
"The Star Spangled Banner"
that played in that context
459
00:34:16,166 --> 00:34:19,583
in that way, it took on
a whole new meaning for an
entire generation of people.
460
00:34:19,632 --> 00:34:23,732
They're paradigm shifters, like they've mastered
the fundamental body of work,
461
00:34:23,757 --> 00:34:26,357
and it's boring
for them to do the same thing.
462
00:34:30,036 --> 00:34:35,666
Human achievement
is often seen as
463
00:34:35,708 --> 00:34:37,177
achievement in
the external world,
464
00:34:37,209 --> 00:34:38,747
but it's only
made possible through
465
00:34:38,772 --> 00:34:40,106
achievements in
the internal world.
466
00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:48,541
We are a species that lives on
467
00:34:48,583 --> 00:34:51,000
ideas and imagination,
creativity.
468
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:18,250
The Gretzkys
and the Jerry Rices,
469
00:35:18,291 --> 00:35:21,458
they look faster or quicker
470
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:24,958
than the next guy because
they're like Neo in The Matrix.
471
00:35:36,477 --> 00:35:39,791
Ali did have one of
the fastest reaction speeds
ever recorded.
472
00:35:39,833 --> 00:35:43,750
He was like
an intuitive neurologist,
he moved his body in a way
473
00:35:43,791 --> 00:35:47,102
that took away that ability
to anticipate for his opponents.
474
00:35:49,524 --> 00:35:56,125
Greatness in the military art is
the art of being unattackable.
475
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,916
My awareness was my creativity
to be able to sort of sidestep
476
00:36:02,958 --> 00:36:06,458
that big hit and to get
out of the way of that big hit.
477
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:09,912
He's like a ghost,
floating around the ice.
478
00:36:23,125 --> 00:36:26,638
It's almost like that
football is so much bigger.
479
00:36:26,663 --> 00:36:29,000
Everything slows down
just a little bit.
480
00:36:29,041 --> 00:36:31,833
You know, the rotation of
the ball, I remember
481
00:36:31,875 --> 00:36:34,880
the nose of
the ball just slows down.
482
00:36:41,882 --> 00:36:45,583
That's what great pianists do.
Their fingers aren't like born
ten times faster
483
00:36:45,625 --> 00:36:48,500
than everybody else's. They're
economizing their movement
484
00:36:48,541 --> 00:36:50,125
and they're going
to the next place that
485
00:36:50,181 --> 00:36:51,931
they know they
need to go before they've
486
00:36:51,958 --> 00:36:53,624
even finished
the first movement.
487
00:36:55,399 --> 00:36:58,500
That's a figment
of true expertise.
488
00:37:01,041 --> 00:37:03,333
You're seeing what's going
to happen before it happens.
They have to.
489
00:37:03,375 --> 00:37:08,208
The game is so fast and it's
played at such a high tempo on
490
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:12,783
such a physical level, you don't
have time to think on this.
491
00:37:22,308 --> 00:37:27,183
This ability to pick up on
what look like disparate pieces
492
00:37:27,208 --> 00:37:30,166
of information and to quickly
draw information from them.
493
00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:34,083
So again, in language,
in a simple way, if I give you
20 random English words
494
00:37:34,132 --> 00:37:36,275
you'll have trouble memorizing
them and giving them back to me.
495
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:38,791
If I put those words in
a meaningful
20-word sentence,
496
00:37:38,833 --> 00:37:41,750
you'll quickly draw
meaning from it
and probably remember it
497
00:37:41,791 --> 00:37:44,333
because you've learned
how to intuitively
498
00:37:44,367 --> 00:37:47,587
group these words into
chunks that have great meaning
for you so they're not chaotic.
499
00:37:47,612 --> 00:37:50,458
It's what Tom Brady has
learned to do with
a football field instantly.
500
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:52,541
He can group players
501
00:37:52,583 --> 00:37:55,250
in a way that tells him
what's coming next
502
00:37:55,291 --> 00:37:57,892
because he instantly
draws information from it.
503
00:38:12,041 --> 00:38:14,583
Chemistry
and algebra is really hard.
504
00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:17,291
Some kids breeze through it
like it's nothing.
505
00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:21,875
They remember every single thing
about it and get 100%,
and they go
506
00:38:21,916 --> 00:38:26,916
"Oh, I get a 100% in algebra
or whatever." In hockey,
507
00:38:26,958 --> 00:38:29,791
I can remember every single
play, every single game,
508
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,215
every single night because it's the
passion I had and it was easy for me.
509
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:42,011
That's almost insane. That's not normal.
I can't remember anything.
510
00:38:45,375 --> 00:38:48,500
This is what I've been told. I
was always running in my sleep.
511
00:38:53,833 --> 00:38:56,458
You're playing
the game in your sleep,
512
00:38:56,500 --> 00:39:03,995
and the majority of
the time is like the next day.
513
00:39:04,666 --> 00:39:11,041
The way I visualized it, the way I dreamt
about it, it happened that way.
514
00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:14,583
Just like that.
515
00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:48,208
Michael Jordan,
the night before a game,
516
00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:51,009
Gretzky, Pelé,
all of these guys, we played
517
00:39:51,034 --> 00:39:54,197
this game over
and over in our heads before
518
00:39:54,222 --> 00:39:57,167
we actually go out
and take the field.
519
00:40:06,875 --> 00:40:09,125
One of the world's experts
in prodigy, someone
named Ellen Winner
520
00:40:09,166 --> 00:40:11,291
at Boston College
calls it a rage to master.
521
00:40:11,333 --> 00:40:14,458
She says there're two
qualities of true prodigies.
522
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:19,416
It's a rage to master a certain
domain like a
complete obsessive.
523
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:22,375
I think rage to master is
pretty much self-explanatory
524
00:40:22,416 --> 00:40:24,541
and an ability to
learn quickly in the domain.
525
00:40:24,583 --> 00:40:27,625
She's seen people who have the
rage but not the ability
to learn quickly.
526
00:40:27,666 --> 00:40:30,083
People have the ability to
learn quickly but not the rage.
527
00:40:30,125 --> 00:40:32,208
And when these two things
come together, then you
528
00:40:32,250 --> 00:40:34,530
have someone who
can change their field.
529
00:40:35,843 --> 00:40:39,291
A lot of creative work comes out
of-- may come from a flash of
insight, but then you
530
00:40:39,333 --> 00:40:41,416
need the skills
and the technique
531
00:40:41,458 --> 00:40:44,460
and the hard graft
to make it actually work.
532
00:40:47,041 --> 00:40:49,916
Dick Fosbury of
the United States
533
00:40:49,958 --> 00:40:51,916
getting ready for his jump.
534
00:40:52,224 --> 00:40:55,483
Clearly the most unusual jumper in this Olympics.
535
00:40:56,666 --> 00:40:58,958
His unorthodox style
clearing the bar
536
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,569
has shocked
the track and field world.
537
00:41:09,474 --> 00:41:12,641
It's working. Fosbury breaks
the Olympic record.
538
00:41:12,675 --> 00:41:14,383
You're going over backwards like
539
00:41:14,425 --> 00:41:15,883
you can't see
where you're going.
540
00:41:15,925 --> 00:41:18,633
Now, it's
completely easy to understand
541
00:41:18,675 --> 00:41:20,466
from a physics
perspective why that's
542
00:41:20,508 --> 00:41:21,966
the best thing to do
because your center
543
00:41:22,008 --> 00:41:24,008
of mass is in
the middle of the curl.
544
00:41:24,057 --> 00:41:26,030
It goes under the bar
you don't have to jump as high.
545
00:41:26,055 --> 00:41:28,351
But scientists only found that
after the fact.
546
00:41:28,376 --> 00:41:30,591
He was discovering this
intuitively and saying,
547
00:41:30,649 --> 00:41:33,028
"This feels right to me"
and being discouraged.
548
00:41:33,716 --> 00:41:38,091
I get to see
Roger Federer warming up
for the US Open one time.
549
00:41:38,133 --> 00:41:39,550
This is the guy
who doesn't really need
550
00:41:39,591 --> 00:41:41,466
to practice his
basic strokes anymore.
551
00:41:41,508 --> 00:41:43,883
Yet while most people
are simulating games
552
00:41:43,925 --> 00:41:45,508
with their warming up.
Here he is.
553
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:48,508
He sets up like a ball-boy
across the court
554
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:51,508
and has the ball-boy
hold his hand like this
555
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:53,966
and starts trying to hit the
ball into the ball boy's hand
556
00:41:54,008 --> 00:41:56,716
without having him move it
and it's going a little bit up
and to this side
557
00:41:56,741 --> 00:41:59,651
and sits there for like
an hour doing this until...
558
00:42:07,716 --> 00:42:10,300
To be able to obsess
on that little thing
559
00:42:10,325 --> 00:42:13,614
to have fun with that
and the compulsion to have it.
560
00:42:16,783 --> 00:42:19,700
I think the vast majority of
great athletes have that to some
561
00:42:19,741 --> 00:42:23,241
degree, whether it's Jerry Rice,
trying to cut that route, again,
562
00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:27,325
just perfectly obsessing on that
little bitty thing that other
563
00:42:27,366 --> 00:42:29,241
people would say, "Well, I've
got it," good enough
and move on.
564
00:42:29,283 --> 00:42:31,908
I think that's pretty unique.
I think that's almost essential.
565
00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:37,606
The epitome of this is when
Tony Hawk hold the first 900.
566
00:42:45,533 --> 00:42:49,200
He's on ESPN2 doing
the X Games and he's missing.
567
00:42:49,241 --> 00:42:50,908
He's not rotating enough.
568
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:52,450
He keeps
missing and falling into
569
00:42:52,491 --> 00:42:54,200
the clock for his time runs out.
570
00:42:54,241 --> 00:42:56,783
He just keeps walking
his board up there and getting
571
00:42:56,825 --> 00:42:58,741
a little closer,
just a little more revolution.
572
00:42:58,783 --> 00:43:01,825
It's like eight minutes
after the competition is over.
573
00:43:01,866 --> 00:43:03,491
The competition is over
and he's just
574
00:43:03,533 --> 00:43:05,616
walking back up
then over-rotates a little,
575
00:43:05,658 --> 00:43:07,825
under-rotates a little
and he keeps coming back.
576
00:43:08,408 --> 00:43:10,491
Next is Tony Hawk.
577
00:43:21,408 --> 00:43:24,575
After his time is expired,
he nails it
and everyone goes crazy.
578
00:43:24,616 --> 00:43:30,731
He could not walk away without just
honing that into the exact right angle.
579
00:43:32,072 --> 00:43:34,322
And that's
the only motivation, really?
580
00:43:39,616 --> 00:43:42,991
At home, when you--
with your family, you try
581
00:43:43,033 --> 00:43:46,450
to devote that time
to your family, but then
582
00:43:46,491 --> 00:43:49,408
once you put the kids
to bed or something like that
583
00:43:49,450 --> 00:43:51,488
then you're
thinking about football.
584
00:43:51,513 --> 00:43:54,200
Even on a Monday
585
00:43:54,241 --> 00:43:56,366
when you guys are resting like
you would be--
586
00:43:56,408 --> 00:44:01,450
I never did. Even on a Monday.
Yes.
587
00:44:01,491 --> 00:44:04,658
You made more
sacrifices than maybe anyone.
588
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:07,575
Just say I was
willing to put my body
589
00:44:07,616 --> 00:44:15,450
through in my mind
just a little bit more.
590
00:44:15,844 --> 00:44:20,261
You have to assume
that in NFL, like in any
professional sports team,
591
00:44:20,286 --> 00:44:24,207
everybody is giving it 100%
or else, it's their life.
592
00:44:24,248 --> 00:44:27,285
It's their career. It's everything to them, right? I mean--
593
00:44:27,613 --> 00:44:32,345
That's really what
they supposed to do, but,
594
00:44:32,572 --> 00:44:37,818
do they actually buy into it
and give one 100%?
595
00:44:37,908 --> 00:44:42,122
As a player, I used to watch,
each and every night,
I watched every game.
596
00:44:46,491 --> 00:44:50,491
I could tell you who's
playing well in January,
597
00:44:50,533 --> 00:44:53,533
how many points each
and every guy had in the league.
598
00:44:53,575 --> 00:44:55,701
Who was physically
hard to play against.
599
00:45:00,158 --> 00:45:05,075
Statistically and imaginatively,
I studied it all.
600
00:45:05,123 --> 00:45:11,739
This obsession to
work ethic, to that
compulsive behavior,
601
00:45:11,764 --> 00:45:16,950
which it seems like these guys
have. Can you identify them
as obsessive-compulsive
602
00:45:16,991 --> 00:45:18,575
people, all of these guys?
603
00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:20,450
We've figured out
how to breed animals for
604
00:45:20,491 --> 00:45:22,741
compulsive physical
activities very, very easily.
605
00:45:22,783 --> 00:45:25,658
We know that some of these
same genes exist in humans.
606
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:29,908
- Which animals?
-Sled dogs, for example,
have not been getting faster
607
00:45:29,950 --> 00:45:32,658
for decades,
they've just been getting
more voracious about running.
608
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:37,261
And mice, is really easy.
You take a group of mice, mice
run every night voluntarily.
609
00:45:37,286 --> 00:45:39,741
If you take a group and you
separate the ones that just
voluntarily run
610
00:45:39,783 --> 00:45:43,033
a little bit more
and the ones that run just a
little bit less and breed them
611
00:45:43,090 --> 00:45:45,160
with each other
and do that several times.
612
00:45:45,186 --> 00:45:47,536
After ten generations
of doing that,
613
00:45:47,584 --> 00:45:52,019
you have entirely different
animals. You have ones that are
hitting the running wheel
614
00:45:52,044 --> 00:45:55,783
and just hammering and then,
these other that are just
slovenly laying on it.
615
00:45:55,825 --> 00:45:58,533
If you stop the ones
that are compelled to run
from running,
616
00:45:58,575 --> 00:46:00,158
they become depressed.
617
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,685
They're literally
crackheads for running.
618
00:46:04,491 --> 00:46:06,283
How competitive
were you?
619
00:46:06,325 --> 00:46:08,200
How motivated were you?
620
00:46:08,241 --> 00:46:10,866
-Like Michael Jordan--
-Yeah.
621
00:46:10,908 --> 00:46:14,739
No, no, no. Listen, there's
competitiveness
all different ways.
622
00:46:16,208 --> 00:46:17,849
You guys sit
and ask me, "Where did my
623
00:46:17,874 --> 00:46:19,732
competition or my competitive
nature came from?"
624
00:46:19,791 --> 00:46:22,872
My competitive nature
has gone a long way
625
00:46:22,897 --> 00:46:25,692
from the first time
I picked up any sport.
626
00:46:26,138 --> 00:46:30,491
As I moved on in my career,
people added wood to that fire.
627
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:34,883
Well, you look at Michael
Jordan's Hall of Fame speech
which is an incredible thing.
628
00:46:34,908 --> 00:46:40,283
Here he is,
a guy who is synonymous
with the sport basically.
629
00:46:40,325 --> 00:46:42,995
From his Hall of Fame speech,
you would have thinked he was
630
00:46:43,020 --> 00:46:46,019
the guy who got
picked last in kickball
and never had any friends.
631
00:46:46,044 --> 00:46:49,020
To the coach who actually
picked Leroy over me, I want
632
00:46:49,045 --> 00:46:52,474
to make sure you understood
you made a mistake, dude.
633
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,616
I mean, there's Buzz Peterson,
my roommate.
634
00:46:57,658 --> 00:47:01,722
Now, when I first met Buzz,
all I heard about was this kid
635
00:47:01,747 --> 00:47:03,908
from Asheville, North Carolina
who was the player of the year.
636
00:47:03,950 --> 00:47:06,950
I'm thinking, "Well, he's
never played against me yet."
637
00:47:11,217 --> 00:47:15,195
Michael Jordan in
a mid-air collision with a
backboard. This is amazing.
638
00:47:15,220 --> 00:47:17,345
That's the high
that young man get up.
639
00:47:18,033 --> 00:47:21,961
Buzz became a dot on my radar.
640
00:47:22,047 --> 00:47:23,450
Not knowingly.
641
00:47:23,491 --> 00:47:25,008
He didn't know it.
642
00:47:25,241 --> 00:47:29,147
Coach Smith, the day that
he was on the Sports Illustrated
643
00:47:29,172 --> 00:47:33,158
and he named four starters
and he didn't name me,
that burned me up.
644
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,679
That burned me
up. That burned me up.
645
00:47:37,950 --> 00:47:42,033
All he did was
redress his grievances,
some of which weren't even real.
646
00:47:42,075 --> 00:47:45,184
He was just creating
these sort of conflicts
647
00:47:45,209 --> 00:47:50,707
and I think that can be um...
You know to get motivated
648
00:47:50,732 --> 00:47:54,638
to try to do something
that nobody else does
or to harness your anger
649
00:47:54,818 --> 00:47:56,283
because it's not life or death,
650
00:47:56,597 --> 00:48:01,029
the games, but you have
to act like it's life or death.
651
00:48:08,866 --> 00:48:12,759
For someone like me
who achieved a lot and over
652
00:48:12,784 --> 00:48:16,283
the time of my career, you look
for any kind of messages
653
00:48:16,308 --> 00:48:20,392
that people may say or do
to get you motivated to
654
00:48:20,417 --> 00:48:22,325
play the game of basketball
at the highest level.
655
00:48:22,366 --> 00:48:24,450
- Wayne.
-Yes.
656
00:48:24,491 --> 00:48:28,866
In your early professional career as you were a youth, did
657
00:48:28,908 --> 00:48:32,329
anyone ever doubt you and say,
"You know, Wayne Gretzky..."
658
00:48:32,354 --> 00:48:35,095
-Yes. A lot of people.
-Did you know who
those people were?
659
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,417
Sure. I read every article
and it motivated me.
660
00:48:38,442 --> 00:48:40,120
-It motivated you?
-Sure.
661
00:48:49,325 --> 00:48:54,542
Gretzky and Pelé,
they want the ball
662
00:48:55,875 --> 00:48:57,583
you know, in their court.
663
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,875
You need a mentor.
You need someone to
teach you.
664
00:49:40,916 --> 00:49:44,125
You have to have guidance.
You have to have that guidance.
665
00:49:44,166 --> 00:49:46,750
Once you get to a point,
you hand them off to people who
666
00:49:46,791 --> 00:49:48,833
know what they're talking about
and that's what my dad did.
667
00:49:48,875 --> 00:49:51,250
Well, my dad handed me off
to a guy, he handed me
668
00:49:51,291 --> 00:49:54,619
to Glen Sather, who was
exactly like my dad.
They both had the same
669
00:49:54,644 --> 00:49:59,923
sort of thoughts of what was
going to make me the player
that I would become.
670
00:49:59,948 --> 00:50:02,791
You got quite a few
fathers on a hockey club like
this, I would say.
671
00:50:02,841 --> 00:50:06,744
Fathers and big brothers
and all their brothers.
You're looked after pretty good.
672
00:50:06,776 --> 00:50:08,548
Everybody said once
you turn pro, all they're
673
00:50:08,590 --> 00:50:10,572
going to do is
make you play defense.
674
00:50:10,761 --> 00:50:14,275
I can never play defense.
My defense was having the puck.
675
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:16,083
If I had the puck,
you couldn't score.
676
00:50:16,125 --> 00:50:18,333
In other words, you had to find somebody that...
677
00:50:18,375 --> 00:50:20,791
Yeah, somebody found me.
678
00:50:20,833 --> 00:50:25,291
It was luck for me because Bill
Walsh, he saw the potential.
679
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:28,833
He was looking at television
and he knows me running across
680
00:50:28,875 --> 00:50:32,291
the television making, as he
would say, incredible catches.
681
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,541
I'm going to
make you feel beautiful.
682
00:50:34,583 --> 00:50:36,583
I take no obligation.
683
00:50:36,625 --> 00:50:38,333
Jerry Rice has
64 yards for touchdown
684
00:50:38,375 --> 00:50:40,331
in a second quarter.
685
00:50:40,708 --> 00:50:44,625
Rice had nine catches
for 155 yards.
686
00:50:44,666 --> 00:50:47,704
He went back to San Francisco
and he said, "Hey look,
687
00:50:47,729 --> 00:50:52,050
we need to take a look
at this Jerry Rice guy."
688
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:54,791
For Mississippi Valley
State University,
689
00:50:54,833 --> 00:50:58,250
it's amazing what he's able
to do on the football field.
690
00:50:58,291 --> 00:51:04,666
The San Francisco 49ers select
16 picking the first round.
691
00:51:04,708 --> 00:51:09,144
Wide Receiver,
Jerry Rice, Mississippi Valley.
692
00:51:11,208 --> 00:51:13,708
If it wasn't Bill
Walsh, there's probably
693
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:15,916
a scenario where
there's no Jerry Rice.
694
00:51:15,958 --> 00:51:17,440
Yes, that's true.
695
00:51:20,583 --> 00:51:24,916
OK, so when you
got into the NFL,
you had adversity.
696
00:51:24,958 --> 00:51:26,083
Yeah.
697
00:51:27,222 --> 00:51:30,378
I think, the most
difficult thing
about that is that I
698
00:51:30,403 --> 00:51:33,644
knew I could catch the football,
but when I came in,
699
00:51:34,458 --> 00:51:41,750
I was dropping footballs
and didn't have the fans to
700
00:51:41,791 --> 00:51:44,883
boo me and trying to
fight through that adversity.
701
00:51:44,908 --> 00:51:47,884
I had a lot of stuff
that I had to overcome,
702
00:51:47,909 --> 00:51:51,450
but I still knew that I
could catch the football.
703
00:51:51,491 --> 00:51:54,111
Then to have Bill Walsh
in my corner
704
00:51:54,136 --> 00:51:56,751
to still say, "Hey look, you're
going to be great one day."
705
00:51:56,776 --> 00:52:00,431
That gave me a little bit
extra incentive to fight.
706
00:52:02,064 --> 00:52:06,783
This guy, he was such a genius
and he knew how to be your
707
00:52:06,816 --> 00:52:10,650
best friend, but then he knew
how to be your worst enemy.
708
00:52:10,691 --> 00:52:16,329
He was just like
my father, the way he made you
feel a little bit uncomfortable.
709
00:52:18,130 --> 00:52:20,297
I put the f###### my end, Paul.
710
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:25,816
You correct me
on the field, I put
the thing in upstairs.
711
00:52:25,858 --> 00:52:28,233
Now, I've been told
by you what f### to do.
712
00:52:28,275 --> 00:52:29,316
Let's go.
713
00:52:30,665 --> 00:52:34,642
Who's the best coach you ever played for and why is he great?
714
00:52:52,876 --> 00:52:56,798
The Brazilians' kid
playing the style of
total freedom.
715
00:53:32,011 --> 00:53:33,491
Boring.
716
00:54:00,650 --> 00:54:03,816
Everybody tries
to be the same kind
717
00:54:03,858 --> 00:54:06,941
of team
and everybody tries to save
718
00:54:06,983 --> 00:54:08,650
their own necks
and everybody tries
719
00:54:08,691 --> 00:54:13,400
to have that
safe place to go to.
720
00:54:13,441 --> 00:54:17,150
I got to Edmonton and Glen
Sather said, "Oh my God,
no, no, no, you get the puck.
721
00:54:17,191 --> 00:54:19,163
You do whatever
you want with the puck."
722
00:54:20,275 --> 00:54:24,148
Gretzky, circling,
spinning, avoiding defender.
723
00:54:25,483 --> 00:54:27,483
Gretzky's shooting, goal!
724
00:54:30,542 --> 00:54:33,208
He said, "I can teach a guy
how to play defense.
725
00:54:33,233 --> 00:54:36,108
I cannot teach a guy,
how to score 70 goals."
726
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:38,233
If you want to be successful
at anything, you've got to
727
00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:41,275
believe in yourself, because
no one else is going to do it.
728
00:54:41,331 --> 00:54:45,685
If you don't do it yourself,
then you can rely on
everybody else
729
00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:49,816
who's been unsuccessful, and you
can sit around the bar together
and cry about it.
730
00:54:49,858 --> 00:54:55,209
But if you're going to do it,
you do it by yourself.
It takes some guts to do that.
731
00:54:55,234 --> 00:54:59,233
Nobody took away
my creativity and if anything,
they all worked with it.
732
00:54:59,266 --> 00:55:02,802
A great coach often endeavors
to make themselves
733
00:55:02,827 --> 00:55:04,786
less relevant
and less relevant over time
734
00:55:04,811 --> 00:55:08,965
and handing over control
to the athletes.
735
00:55:08,990 --> 00:55:11,667
If a coach sees themselves as
just a drill sergeant
736
00:55:11,692 --> 00:55:16,192
whose job is just to make sure you hit
your mark and do nothing else.
737
00:55:16,441 --> 00:55:22,034
Then it's going
to stifle that whole era
of collaborative innovation
738
00:55:22,059 --> 00:55:24,941
that all the great teams
actually demonstrate
all the time.
739
00:55:24,983 --> 00:55:31,983
Your coach through...
humor, sarcasm,
740
00:55:32,025 --> 00:55:38,275
just plane force, you got to
change the pace all the time
741
00:55:38,316 --> 00:55:40,315
just to get
the most out of a guy.
742
00:55:40,340 --> 00:55:43,408
Some players, you never ball out
743
00:55:43,441 --> 00:55:46,566
because it's against their
personality to take it.
744
00:55:46,608 --> 00:55:50,879
See, everybody is
a different person.
745
00:55:51,525 --> 00:55:59,239
When you realize that fact,
you become a better coach.
746
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:07,426
A lot of athletes,
when it comes to taking that
747
00:56:07,451 --> 00:56:12,207
last shot, where you win
or lose, they shy away from it.
748
00:56:12,708 --> 00:56:15,714
They don't want that--
be the goat or the hero.
749
00:56:15,739 --> 00:56:20,692
They're very nervous about it.
750
00:56:21,025 --> 00:56:24,167
I like the guy who's
going to say, "Give it to me.
751
00:56:24,192 --> 00:56:25,400
I'll take that shot."
752
00:56:25,441 --> 00:56:28,104
The lot of
the players they don't want
753
00:56:28,144 --> 00:56:29,871
to deal with
the consequences
754
00:56:29,896 --> 00:56:33,065
because if you don't make that play,
now you got to
755
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:36,512
deal with everything
that comes with it.
756
00:56:37,233 --> 00:56:40,108
Here is Jordan with three seconds to go. He shoots.
757
00:56:40,556 --> 00:56:41,847
No good.
758
00:57:15,775 --> 00:57:21,785
You can be stressful,
but there has to be
a calmness about you, too.
759
00:57:22,191 --> 00:57:26,358
So, you got somehow to be
able to balance both because--
760
00:57:26,407 --> 00:57:27,573
You're too
relaxed, you're--
761
00:57:27,608 --> 00:57:29,233
Yes. Then, you're too relax.
762
00:57:29,275 --> 00:57:30,775
Then, you're not
going out and you're not
763
00:57:30,816 --> 00:57:33,650
playing with enough intensity.
764
00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:40,840
You got to be, you know,
like something in between,
765
00:57:40,977 --> 00:57:42,727
how you can balance it.
766
00:57:45,191 --> 00:57:50,158
The most difficult thing for me
is, and this used to always
767
00:57:50,183 --> 00:57:52,629
bother me during the Superbowl.
768
00:57:57,608 --> 00:57:59,910
Yet for time out...
769
00:58:03,108 --> 00:58:05,775
...they got to show commercials,
they got to do all that.
770
00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:09,677
-The reason why
wherever he goes,
771
00:58:09,702 --> 00:58:11,779
Spuds MacKenzie has so much fun.
772
00:58:11,804 --> 00:58:14,685
-He's always in control.
-Spuds loves...
773
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:22,408
You know the play before that
time out is coming your way.
Can you imagine?
774
00:58:22,433 --> 00:58:27,026
You're processing all of this in
your head like, "My God, my God,
775
00:58:27,051 --> 00:58:30,784
this is a long time out."
So I need a distraction.
776
00:58:30,808 --> 00:58:36,394
I would look in the stands
and find someone and I would
focus on that individual
777
00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:39,995
until that time out is over
778
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:42,337
and now we can go back
to playing football.
779
00:59:15,182 --> 00:59:16,974
Montana
dropping back.
780
00:59:16,999 --> 00:59:19,784
He floats along
throw down there to Rice.
781
00:59:20,641 --> 00:59:22,475
Touchdown! 49ers.
782
00:59:22,516 --> 00:59:24,975
I knew where my family was.
I knew where my friends were.
783
00:59:25,016 --> 00:59:26,850
I knew when they
went for a popcorn.
784
00:59:28,183 --> 00:59:31,391
I knew everything
going on in the arena.
785
00:59:31,433 --> 00:59:33,975
Some guys can do it.
Some guys have no idea.
786
00:59:34,016 --> 00:59:37,641
From my point of view,
it made me comfortable.
And it worked for me.
787
00:59:37,666 --> 00:59:41,583
- You weren't like trying to visualize doing this.-No, never.
788
00:59:41,641 --> 00:59:44,975
I was playing ping pong
and five to seven
for a seven o'clock game.
789
00:59:45,016 --> 00:59:47,600
Maybe that was
my way of easing away from
790
00:59:47,641 --> 00:59:50,292
the pressure and the thoughts
of going on the ice.
791
00:59:54,016 --> 01:00:00,441
There is only now.
Now is all there ever was and all that there ever will be.
792
01:00:01,471 --> 01:00:05,304
You want to
give those individuals
793
01:00:07,558 --> 01:00:09,016
the greatest show ever.
794
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:16,685
The whole of
the universe wants a thrill.
795
01:00:16,948 --> 01:00:20,100
That's what it's all about,
otherwise it would be boring
796
01:00:20,141 --> 01:00:25,470
for that is the spirit
of showmanship of the players.
797
01:00:41,683 --> 01:00:45,304
To be able to bring them
to their feet like that,
798
01:00:45,329 --> 01:00:48,766
to give them
something they had never seen.
799
01:00:48,808 --> 01:00:51,790
I think that's everything,
that's why we play the game.
800
01:00:52,725 --> 01:00:56,058
When I see a guy do something
and brings me out of my chair
801
01:00:56,116 --> 01:00:59,493
you go, "Wow!"
Like Montana,
802
01:00:59,672 --> 01:01:02,573
an 80-yard drive in the last minute
and a half of a game to
803
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,391
win the Superbowl, you go,
"Wow, that's unreal."
804
01:01:05,433 --> 01:01:10,976
The great players have
a personality that shines
through in their technique
805
01:01:11,001 --> 01:01:13,308
and how they apply it
in their sense of artistry.
806
01:01:13,357 --> 01:01:15,938
I think, the great players do recognize
that what they're doing
807
01:01:15,963 --> 01:01:21,009
isn't just taking part in a
game, it's also a performance.
808
01:01:21,072 --> 01:01:23,155
Do you consider
yourself an artist?
809
01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:28,827
Oh, yes, 100% and that's not
trying to be egotistical,
810
01:01:28,860 --> 01:01:31,337
that's just a fact.
I entertain people.
811
01:01:31,523 --> 01:01:34,857
I entertained and I was
an artist and I was paid to win.
812
01:01:50,163 --> 01:01:52,883
I would watch
Barry Sanders run.
813
01:01:53,085 --> 01:01:56,606
There was something
qualitatively different
814
01:01:56,674 --> 01:02:00,174
about what he was doing when he was
putting one foot in front of the other.
815
01:02:00,576 --> 01:02:02,483
You could watch the five-yard
loss and say,
816
01:02:02,525 --> 01:02:04,275
"That is something I've
never seen before."
817
01:02:04,316 --> 01:02:08,410
It's like Picasso just doing
something different with the brush
818
01:02:08,442 --> 01:02:10,552
and I think
there is that aspect to sport.
819
01:02:10,593 --> 01:02:13,012
Because otherwise, you're
just watching four quarters again,
820
01:02:13,037 --> 01:02:15,775
and guys putting
the same ball in the same hoop.
821
01:02:15,816 --> 01:02:19,358
I've wrestled with alligators,
I've tussled with a whale,
822
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,413
I done handcuff lightning
and put thunder in jail.
823
01:02:22,438 --> 01:02:25,824
You know I'm bad,
I have murdered a rock.
824
01:02:25,858 --> 01:02:29,608
I injured a stone
and I hospitalized a brick.
825
01:02:29,650 --> 01:02:32,066
I'm so bad I made medicine sick.
826
01:02:32,108 --> 01:02:34,316
I'm so fast, man,
I can run through
827
01:02:34,358 --> 01:02:36,066
a hurricane and don't get wet.
828
01:02:36,108 --> 01:02:39,025
When George Foreman meets me,
he'll pay his debt.
829
01:02:39,066 --> 01:02:42,241
I can drown a drink of
water and kill a dead tree,
830
01:02:42,266 --> 01:02:44,736
wait until you see Muhammad Ali.
831
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,483
I think I was obsessed
with the way I looked.
832
01:02:53,017 --> 01:02:55,337
Meticulous.
833
01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:13,565
I don't like
just old beat up shoes.
834
01:03:13,626 --> 01:03:17,358
I had a pair of new shoes
every football game.
835
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,900
Didn't you get blisters though,
'cause new shoes...
836
01:03:18,941 --> 01:03:21,983
No at all.
It didn't bother me at all.
837
01:03:22,025 --> 01:03:28,441
It just, you know, one of those
ritual things that I felt that
was very important to my game.
838
01:03:28,483 --> 01:03:30,523
You have to look a certain way
839
01:03:30,548 --> 01:03:32,483
to play well
on a football field.
840
01:03:32,525 --> 01:03:35,234
The right pants,
the right socks,
841
01:03:35,259 --> 01:03:39,108
style was very important,
very important to me.
842
01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:41,381
You need to
help me with the jam.
843
01:03:41,406 --> 01:03:43,823
-You need to help me with the jam.
-Give it to me.
844
01:03:45,076 --> 01:03:47,168
-You need tohelp me with the jam.
-Ho.
845
01:03:47,410 --> 01:03:49,426
-You need to help me with the jam.
-Ho.
846
01:03:49,775 --> 01:03:51,650
-You've got it.
-Yes, I've been good.
847
01:03:51,691 --> 01:03:53,733
You need to
help me with the jam.
848
01:03:53,775 --> 01:03:57,108
-You need to
help me with the jam.
-Ho.
849
01:03:57,423 --> 01:04:01,173
It was just like doing a dance,
it had to be a certain way.
850
01:04:09,358 --> 01:04:15,527
The way I positioned
my hands, the way
I utilized my feet.
851
01:04:20,608 --> 01:04:23,233
You have to
have a creative mind.
852
01:04:23,275 --> 01:04:28,440
And you have to be one of
those individuals that's willing
853
01:04:28,465 --> 01:04:32,108
to step out of
your boundary just a little bit.
854
01:04:39,191 --> 01:04:41,747
The Ali shuffles
brought the crowd laughing.
855
01:04:41,772 --> 01:04:45,949
I am the master of illusion.
Learn my hand.
856
01:04:53,941 --> 01:04:57,900
Right before your eye
is a miracle, a miracle.
857
01:04:57,980 --> 01:04:59,147
It was art.
858
01:05:00,545 --> 01:05:04,551
Art, but still
staying in a team concept.
859
01:05:12,941 --> 01:05:15,275
The coaches can only do so much.
860
01:05:15,316 --> 01:05:16,983
Now it's up to the players
861
01:05:17,025 --> 01:05:19,580
and the players,
they have to take over the team.
862
01:05:19,605 --> 01:05:21,150
Black 59 Razor.
863
01:05:21,191 --> 01:05:23,121
Black 59 Razor.
864
01:05:25,608 --> 01:05:28,566
Black 59 Razor.
865
01:05:28,608 --> 01:05:30,358
Black 59 Razor.
866
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,650
Whenever he said that,
I knew there was no safety.
867
01:05:34,691 --> 01:05:38,108
I just had this guy
right in front of me to beat.
868
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:41,963
Just look down the line, look
at him, we smile at each other
869
01:05:41,988 --> 01:05:46,608
and we know that, "Okay,
t's time to go to work here."
870
01:05:46,650 --> 01:05:49,727
All I have to do
is just run my best route,
871
01:05:49,752 --> 01:05:53,483
get open and I knew that he was
going to deliver the football.
872
01:05:53,525 --> 01:05:55,797
Black 59 Razor.
873
01:06:07,066 --> 01:06:10,858
He knew he could trust me
and I knew I could trust him
874
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:13,819
because we had done it
over and over again.
875
01:06:13,844 --> 01:06:16,066
Mario and I did
our talking on the ice.
876
01:06:16,108 --> 01:06:19,316
You know, we kind of knew
where each other was.
877
01:06:19,389 --> 01:06:23,032
We played the game
in our mind the same way.
878
01:06:31,691 --> 01:06:34,327
When I got the puck,
I knew where he was going to be
879
01:06:34,352 --> 01:06:37,172
because that's
where I'd be, vice versa.
880
01:06:37,220 --> 01:06:40,719
We played against
the Czechs in the Round-Robin.
881
01:06:40,744 --> 01:06:42,901
We had a two on
one against Hasek,
882
01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:45,000
and I passed him the puck
883
01:06:45,056 --> 01:06:47,874
and he passed it back
to me and I didn't score.
884
01:06:47,906 --> 01:06:49,865
When we got back
to the bench, I said "Mario,
885
01:06:49,917 --> 01:06:53,624
if we ever get a two on one
again, I'm setting it up,
886
01:06:53,649 --> 01:06:55,171
you're the shooter,
you don't miss."
887
01:06:55,219 --> 01:06:59,139
He never misses and sure enough
final game, final shift,
888
01:06:59,164 --> 01:07:03,483
we had two one and I knew when I passed it to
him, he wasn't going to do anything but shoot it.
889
01:07:19,358 --> 01:07:23,733
It's about a ritual thinking
so it's about coming with
something fresh and new.
890
01:07:23,775 --> 01:07:25,650
I remember talking to Paul
McCartney about it and he said
891
01:07:25,691 --> 01:07:28,108
he and John used to
sit down at the height
892
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:29,733
of their work in The Beatles.
893
01:07:29,775 --> 01:07:31,834
One of them would
always have an idea for a song.
894
01:07:31,866 --> 01:07:33,115
That was the rule.
895
01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:35,233
He said,
"The other rules, we never
896
01:07:35,275 --> 01:07:37,062
stood up until we got the song."
897
01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:53,816
-How are we doing, Hal?
-Sometimes it took ten minutes
898
01:07:53,873 --> 01:07:55,648
and sometimes it might take 40,
he said "I don't think it ever
899
01:07:55,673 --> 01:07:59,250
took more than an hour when we
stood up and we had a song."
900
01:07:59,275 --> 01:08:01,900
The second one out of
every three is the one.
901
01:08:01,941 --> 01:08:03,975
Every Beatles song
is different
902
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,816
from the other
Beatles songs and why?
903
01:08:05,858 --> 01:08:07,976
Because they
decided they had to be.
904
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,398
If it's a team activity,
whether it's an orchestra...
905
01:08:17,316 --> 01:08:19,513
Or a football team...
906
01:08:29,432 --> 01:08:31,138
Or a hockey team
907
01:08:33,193 --> 01:08:35,665
or a group of acrobats,
908
01:08:37,816 --> 01:08:40,983
they have to have
that sense of comfort.
It's not just you out there.
909
01:08:41,462 --> 01:08:44,253
The people are going to do
what they are supposed to do.
910
01:08:46,910 --> 01:08:50,459
It's always a balance between
discipline and spontaneity.
911
01:09:04,066 --> 01:09:06,608
One part of the
impulse in any sport
912
01:09:06,650 --> 01:09:10,317
is to explore
the range of your own limits.
913
01:09:10,342 --> 01:09:14,395
To be the best you can be,
so you have to wonder
914
01:09:14,420 --> 01:09:15,941
whether we're
reaching the limits of that.
915
01:09:15,983 --> 01:09:19,108
I mean, there is, after all,
only so high people will
be able to jump.
916
01:09:19,150 --> 01:09:20,733
It's not gonna carry on
getting higher,
917
01:09:20,775 --> 01:09:22,983
we're now dealing with
fractions of fractions.
918
01:09:23,025 --> 01:09:24,650
The athletes are better today.
919
01:09:24,691 --> 01:09:26,858
They're just bigger
and stronger and better.
920
01:09:28,083 --> 01:09:30,527
Doesn't make them smarter.
921
01:09:30,552 --> 01:09:32,317
What do we want
to get out of sports?
922
01:09:32,342 --> 01:09:35,275
Do we want to
see someone dunking on
923
01:09:35,316 --> 01:09:38,191
a 20-foot rim
or do we want to see,
924
01:09:38,233 --> 01:09:40,066
under some set of
normal circumstances,
925
01:09:40,108 --> 01:09:41,983
the best that people can do?
926
01:09:43,233 --> 01:09:49,371
If the ultimate outcome of
professional sports
is always just
927
01:09:49,396 --> 01:09:53,115
to become number one of whatever
price you pay to get there.
928
01:09:53,407 --> 01:09:55,615
Then you begin to wonder
whether the whole
929
01:09:55,779 --> 01:09:57,316
spiritual basis of
these guys are being
930
01:09:57,358 --> 01:09:59,608
hollowed out in
the process of winning
931
01:09:59,650 --> 01:10:01,842
a game the people are
losing interest in.
932
01:10:02,662 --> 01:10:05,525
Where do we draw the-- I think,
it's going to be an emotional
line that you draw.
933
01:10:05,573 --> 01:10:09,414
What do we have?
We might try to logic it out,
but I think, it's going to be
934
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,232
when do we have the emotional
recoil to where we are now?
935
01:10:21,289 --> 01:10:24,622
We are not robots.
936
01:10:24,648 --> 01:10:30,013
We're people who are
driven by feelings
937
01:10:30,038 --> 01:10:35,944
and inspiration
and a sense of possibility.
938
01:10:37,225 --> 01:10:40,600
Creativity is
the essence of humanity.
939
01:10:40,641 --> 01:10:45,183
That it's not an incidental
part of being human,
but it's distinctively human.
940
01:10:47,557 --> 01:10:50,774
What we do is we put
the child into the corridor
941
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:55,116
of this grade system and they
go to kindergarten, you know.
942
01:10:55,156 --> 01:10:57,092
That's a great thing
because when you
943
01:10:57,117 --> 01:10:59,139
finish that,
you get into first grade
944
01:10:59,866 --> 01:11:02,850
and then come on, first grade
leads to the second grade
and so on.
945
01:11:02,891 --> 01:11:05,141
Then you get out of grade
school, you go to high school,
946
01:11:05,183 --> 01:11:06,683
then you're going
to go to college
947
01:11:06,725 --> 01:11:09,016
and then you get
into graduate school.
948
01:11:09,058 --> 01:11:10,516
And when you're through
with graduate school,
949
01:11:10,558 --> 01:11:12,741
you go out to join the world.
950
01:11:13,308 --> 01:11:16,683
Then, you get into some racket where you're selling insurance.
951
01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:19,898
All the time, the thing is coming.
It's coming, it's coming,
952
01:11:19,933 --> 01:11:22,389
that great thing, the success you're working for.
953
01:11:22,498 --> 01:11:25,145
Then when you wake up
one day about 40 years old,
954
01:11:25,170 --> 01:11:30,808
you say, "My God, I've arrived. I'm there." You don't feel very
955
01:11:30,850 --> 01:11:32,850
different from
what you always felt.
956
01:11:32,891 --> 01:11:35,975
There's a slight letdown because you feel there's a hoax.
957
01:11:36,016 --> 01:11:38,683
And there was a hoax,
a dreadful hoax.
958
01:11:38,725 --> 01:11:40,506
They made you miss everything.
959
01:11:41,016 --> 01:11:44,225
We thought of life by
analogy with a journey,
960
01:11:44,266 --> 01:11:49,350
with a pilgrimage, which had
a serious purpose at the end.
The thing was get to that end.
961
01:11:49,391 --> 01:11:52,891
Success or whatever it is
or maybe heaven
after you'redead,
962
01:11:52,933 --> 01:11:55,641
but we missed the point,
the whole way along.
963
01:11:55,683 --> 01:11:58,016
It was a musical thing
and you were supposed to
964
01:11:58,073 --> 01:12:01,248
sing or to dance while
the music was being played.
965
01:12:02,141 --> 01:12:05,764
People have immense deep talents
that are often overlooked by
966
01:12:05,789 --> 01:12:08,955
the systems that are designed to
967
01:12:09,308 --> 01:12:10,933
educate them or
take care of them.
968
01:12:10,975 --> 01:12:13,183
It's like there
are natural resources
969
01:12:13,225 --> 01:12:15,308
that are much
deeper than we realize.
970
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:18,600
There are multifarious
factors on whether or not people
971
01:12:18,641 --> 01:12:21,100
achieve what they
achieve when they achieve them.
972
01:12:21,141 --> 01:12:25,225
And the ones we know about are
the ones whose talents came to
973
01:12:25,266 --> 01:12:29,058
fruition because the conditions
prove to be favorable for them.
974
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:31,308
But how many other
people could achieve
975
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:33,891
similar things
if the condition is right?
976
01:12:33,933 --> 01:12:37,891
How many Mozarts
and Gretzkys are there?
You just don't know.
977
01:12:37,933 --> 01:12:40,433
I got lucky the era played in.
978
01:12:40,475 --> 01:12:42,725
I got lucky the style that I was
979
01:12:42,766 --> 01:12:45,747
playing in and I got
really lucky with
the coaching that I had
980
01:12:45,772 --> 01:12:48,648
and more importantly,
the players I played with.
981
01:12:48,683 --> 01:12:53,391
All that combined to be
a perfect storm,
as simple as that.
982
01:12:53,433 --> 01:12:55,350
Do you think
that if you're destined
983
01:12:55,391 --> 01:12:56,850
to be great,
you're going to be great?
984
01:12:56,891 --> 01:12:58,951
You're going to find
a way to make it happen.
985
01:12:58,976 --> 01:13:01,308
- You think it's
your will?
-A combination of luck
986
01:13:01,365 --> 01:13:03,781
and your will. You got to
be a little lucky.
987
01:13:51,386 --> 01:13:52,886
It's great.
88089
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