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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Diana, Princess of Wales, has died. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,120 This is according to British sources. 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,360 The most photographed woman in the world has died trying not 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,520 to have her photo taken, that doesn't make sense. 5 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Hundreds of millions of people across 6 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,280 the world use Facebook daily to interact. 7 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,960 If you look at how we're growing, we're really just at the beginning. 8 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,560 It's very difficult to defeat a conspiracy theory. 9 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Rubbish, cover up, definitely a cover-up. 10 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,200 I think it's a little bit suspicious for an accident. 11 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,840 Why would someone want to kill the Princess of Wales? 12 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,160 This was one of the most important investigations 13 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,920 that the UK had ever had. 14 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:22,480 There's so many coincidences, 15 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,080 so many odd things that just don't add up. 16 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,720 12 members of the public will decide how Princess Diana 17 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,760 and her lover died. 18 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,320 Mr Al Fayed hopes they'll conclude it was murder. 19 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,360 85% of the ordinary people 20 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,600 of this country believe Diana was murdered with my son. 21 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,680 The former Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, 22 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,520 Lord Stevens, is to publish 23 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,200 the findings of his three-year investigation 24 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,320 into the death of Princess Diana. 25 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,160 We'd done the report, we'd come to conclusions. 26 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,480 We had done a very, very thorough job. 27 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,480 We knew in our own heart of hearts we'd done everything 28 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,720 as best as we possibly could. 29 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,400 I felt a lot of pressure towards the end 30 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,840 because you think, "Have I missed something here?" 31 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Every single allegation, the 104, has been investigated. 32 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,480 Every single one. 33 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,280 MARKER SQUEAKS 34 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Well, there is the report. 35 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 You can't do any more than say, "This is what we did." 36 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,640 Have a look, pick it apart. 37 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,080 We knew every amateur sleuth in the world 38 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,680 would be going through that, 39 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,400 not to mention some serious legal people. 40 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,760 It was not just a high-profile dramatic case, 41 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,880 but there are serious questions about members of the Royal family. 42 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Maybe it was pure accident, 43 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,360 but I found that difficult to believe. 44 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,280 The basic question was, what's gone on here? 45 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:03,160 The primary purpose of this investigation has been 46 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,360 to assess whether there is credible evidence to support 47 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,600 an allegation of conspiracy to murder. 48 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,080 If, you know, 85% of the population think that 49 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,160 the most popular woman in the world has been murdered by 50 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,840 the Queen's husband, together with MI6, 51 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,120 then the whole of the legal system 52 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,800 and the way we do things is in jeopardy. 53 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,000 It had to be dealt with. 54 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,200 The inquiry is largely concentrated on 55 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,120 a number of separate claims made by Mr Mohamed Al-Fayed in documents 56 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,640 and public appearances over the nine years since the crash. 57 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,280 And she told me personally, "If anything happened to me, 58 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,200 "Be sure the finger is, the person who has done it, is Prince Philip." 59 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,560 She said that to you? Definitely, definitely. 60 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Why I'm so... 61 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,680 ..overwhelmed, you know? Why I am so convinced. 62 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,320 At the heart of Mr Al-Fayed's allegation is his belief 63 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,360 that the crash was murder 64 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,880 because of the relationship between Mr Dodi Al-Fayed 65 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,920 and the Princess of Wales. 66 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,920 You also believe, Mohamed, strongly, that Diana was pregnant 67 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 at the time that she died, don't you? 68 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:22,880 This was 100%. 69 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,480 How can you be sure of that? 70 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,160 Because she told me herself 71 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,280 and Dodi told me, I know this personally. 72 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Our responsibility was to show to Mr Al-Fayed, 73 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,680 who'd made the allegation, this is what we've discovered. 74 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,920 We weren't saying, "Mohamed, we're doubting you." 75 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,000 But we have to be able to prove that all these things took place, 76 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,840 because that's how the police operate. 77 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,400 We are certain that the Princess of Wales was not pregnant 78 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,000 at the time of her death, she was not engaged, 79 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,840 and she was not about to get engaged. 80 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 As you go through an investigation, 81 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,920 you may look at more and more of the allegations 82 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,400 and think, "This is nonsense, this just isn't true." 83 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,240 But you have to keep saying to yourself, "Keep an open mind." 84 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:18,080 If there's evidence of a conspiracy, go and follow it. 85 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,480 And that led to an issue for Lord Stevens, in deciding 86 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,600 what he did with the inquiry when it got towards Prince Philip. 87 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,280 The allegations about Prince Philip were not specific, they didn't 88 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,320 regard to any other evidence that we'd got in in our possession. 89 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,800 We contacted him, saying, 90 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,480 "Do you want to reply to any of what's been said?" 91 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,960 And he said he didn't have anything to add. 92 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,040 No, just the odd one.. 93 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,320 There's not a single piece of evidence 94 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,520 that Prince Philip was involved in a plot 95 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,520 to kill the mother of his two grandchildren. 96 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,880 We've looked, and looked, and looked, and looked, and looked. 97 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,640 "Mohamed, have you produced anything evidence-wise?" 98 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Nothing, nothing, nothing. 99 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,520 I have a lot of sympathy for Mohamed Al-Fayed, 100 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,560 he lost his son. 101 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,080 What I have trouble with is that he made allegations 102 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,160 without any evidence at all 103 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,520 against people who loved the Princess of Wales. 104 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,480 We have spoken to many of her family and closest friends. 105 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,120 I mean, I went to the press conference. 106 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,800 They clearly were working on the basis that 107 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,880 everything that came out of Mohamed's mouth 108 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,120 was not to be believed and that, you know, he'd lost it, 109 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,360 and he was just fantasising. 110 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,400 The establishment were very anxious to close Mohamed down. 111 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,760 I had a good relationship with him from the very beginning. 112 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,120 He always used to have a glass of champagne ready for me 113 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,560 when I went in there. 114 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,800 I used to think it churlish not to have one glass with him. 115 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,040 And this was a way of actually getting to know him better. 116 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Mohamed had wanted the Commissioner to do this investigation. 117 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,960 He thought he's the one person who will be prepared 118 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,600 to stand up to the establishment, because he had done it before. 119 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,920 I believe that any police officer has a duty to the public. 120 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,840 The report was honest, we'd done it with integrity, 121 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 and all of this relates to trust. 122 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,680 The police will never get anywhere without the public trust. 123 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,960 Together, we have examined... 124 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,200 The most important thing about that report 125 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,040 and the "wait a minute" moment, 126 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,640 light shining through the darkness, suddenly, 127 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,880 was the Mishcon Note. 128 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,800 The note had been put in a safe at New Scotland Yard. 129 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,600 SAFE BEEPS 130 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,760 I first saw it when I became Commissioner. 131 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,480 you know the Commissioner has a safe in his office where things are kept 132 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,480 which are just for his eyes only. 133 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,800 When you take over, as I did from Lord Condon, 134 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,680 he produced the Mishcon Letter. 135 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Late October, 1995, two years before the fatal crash, 136 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,080 the Princess of Wales went to see her personal legal adviser, 137 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,720 A man called Lord Mishcon. 138 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,240 A very well-respected lawyer, and clearly the Princess trusted him. 139 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,160 She went to see him to tell him about something 140 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,600 that was on her mind, 141 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,400 and he recorded exactly what was said. 142 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,080 So, he's writing here, 143 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,760 "I attended an HRH..." Obviously the Princess of Wales. 144 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,440 "..at Kensington Palace yesterday, 145 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,640 the 30th of October, at approximately 4pm." 146 00:09:55,680 --> 00:10:00,720 "And what the Princess said then was that she'd been informed by 147 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:06,400 "reliable sources, whom she did not wish to reveal, 148 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,880 "that a car accident might be staged 149 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,120 "in which she would either end up dead or be seriously injured 150 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 "and removed from the scene." 151 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,680 So, she wrote at least two notes. 152 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,600 One was to her butler and then there's this one. 153 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 It seems to me, what she wanted to do was 154 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,080 to leave a marker down 155 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,400 with somebody connected with the legal profession. 156 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,320 After the crash, 157 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,480 Lord Mishcon takes his note of that meeting 158 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,760 to Lord Condon, who was 159 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,080 the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, and says, 160 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,320 "Bearing in mind what happened in Paris, I think 161 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,560 "you need to see this note of my meeting with the Princess." 162 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,080 The note is important 163 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:56,320 because it's equivalent to somebody's premonition. 164 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 If you were a police officer investigating it, 165 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,160 you want to hand the account over to the French. 166 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,680 They didn't do that. 167 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,160 They stick it in a safe and they don't reveal it. 168 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,560 Well, that was a decision made by Paul Condon. 169 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Paul Condon had discussed it with Lord Mishcon, 170 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,480 and he said he didn't think there was anything in there. 171 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Because at that time of course, it's just a crash. 172 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,280 These, shall I call it strange musings of Diana 173 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,000 from two years ago, are they relevant to it? 174 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,120 The assessment at that time was no. 175 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,400 From 1997 onwards, when 176 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,440 the Metropolitan Police were in possession of that note, 177 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,440 it was always a judgment call about what you did with it, 178 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,200 and the note was released to the coroner in December 2003, 179 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,360 just before Paget started. 180 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,360 They sat on it for years to protect 181 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,080 part of the establishment, namely the Royal family. 182 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,440 What it demonstrates is serious reluctance 183 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,440 to have this properly investigated from the beginning. 184 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,960 Mohamed Al Fayed remains convinced 185 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,320 that the Princess of Wales and his son Dodi died as a result 186 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,720 of a conspiracy orchestrated by the British secret services. 187 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,520 MI6 have spied on Dodi and Diana during that trip, 188 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,680 by bugging their phones, all the satellites on the boat. 189 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,000 Know where they are, find everywhere, every step. 190 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,640 They've been murdered. 191 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,840 There was a lot in the media about 192 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:49,560 an alleged conversation between Paul Burrell and the Queen. 193 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,040 This morning it was the Queen 194 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,200 who was at the centre of the revelations. 195 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,880 Mr Burrell says his meeting with her took place 196 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,280 just a few days before he received an honour from her 197 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,520 in November, 1997. 198 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:04,000 He says it took place in her private sitting room at the Palace. 199 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,640 When you think about this as a conspiracy theory, 200 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:15,840 you must not forget people, financially, had something 201 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,840 to gain by it being peddled. 202 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,760 People like Paul Burrell were making a lot of money. 203 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,120 I'm not saying he made it up, 204 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,720 I just mean that the temptation, of course, 205 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,720 would always be there to kind of just, just give us 206 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,600 a little one-liner because then we'll give you lots of money 207 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,200 and we'll serialise your book. 208 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,520 I can only tell you the truth. 209 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:43,480 I'm not going to embroider, 210 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,560 I am not going to make anything up, 211 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,720 I will tell you the truth, 212 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,120 exactly what I heard and what I saw. 213 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,240 From Mr Burrell's book, A Royal Duty, 214 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,800 he writes, "As the meeting neared its end, 215 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,920 "the Queen said one more thing to me. 216 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,520 "Looking over her half-rimmed spectacles, she said... 217 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,520 "Do be careful, Paul. 218 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:09,200 "There are forces at work in my country 219 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,840 "of which even I have no knowledge." 220 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,800 "And she fixed me with a stare where her eyes made clear 221 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,440 the, "Do you understand?" 222 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,680 We view that books, not Mr Burrell's, any book like this, 223 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,600 is written for commercial purposes. 224 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Police reports are written 225 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,400 to get to the truth of what happened and rely on evidence. 226 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Basically, that is the truth of what happened, 227 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,680 and she did look at me over her half-rimmed spectacles 228 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,280 and I remember her doing that and looking at me 229 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,520 and saying, erm, 230 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,720 "Be aware that there are forces at work in my country." 231 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Since then, I've thought about that... 232 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 ..and I think the Queen must be referring to 233 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,640 the security forces. 234 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,800 That's the only explanation that I can have. 235 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,080 It's an interesting viewpoint, Mr Burrell, 236 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,720 erm, but that's your version 237 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,480 of what you think another person said 238 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,480 and you don't know what's inside her head. 239 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,840 I'm not gonna go and ask the Queen, 240 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 "Do you remember a conversation with Paul Burrell where you 241 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,880 "allegedly said this, that and the other?" 242 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,200 She'll say, 'Well, what's that got to do with Operation Paget 243 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,280 "and what happened in Paris?" 244 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 And I'd say, "Nothing, Ma'am." "Why are you asking me?" 245 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,680 "Because it was in Paul Burrell's book." 246 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,000 It's like, no, we just deal with evidence. 247 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,320 My son's been murdered, and I can't get to the truth. 248 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,880 The campaign which MI6 are doing, how can I prove? 249 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Now it's important to bear in mind 250 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Mr Al Fayed didn't suddenly start accusing MI6. 251 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,240 Everything that related to allegations about MI6 252 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,400 stemmed from an ex-MI6 officer by the name of Richard Tomlinson. 253 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Richard Tomlinson worked for MI6, he was an MI6 officer, 254 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,880 he actually was posted abroad, 255 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,800 he's done all that stuff you might think of as being a spy. 256 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,360 He worked from 1991 until 1995. 257 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,520 In 1995, they released him, dismissed him. 258 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,080 He was extremely upset about this. 259 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:28,600 In 1998 Richard Tomlinson saw a, I think it was 260 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280 a TV documentary about the crash, 261 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,000 and he saw that in there, there was this talk about this 262 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:40,200 bright, white flashing strobe light that caused the crash. 263 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,640 Now, Monsieur Levistre, there will be two flashes... Yeah. 264 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,600 ..behind you here. The distance I think will be just about 265 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,960 the distance you say when there was a flash 266 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,560 in the tunnel that night. So, if you look out carefully here. 267 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,600 No. That's the first one, and now wait, 268 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,920 we should see another one coming up. 269 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,680 Yeah...Yeah. 270 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,960 That second one? Yeah. 271 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,360 That was. The second one. That was... Yeah, yeah, sure. 272 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,120 You're absolutely certain? Yeah, sure. 273 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,280 Mr Tomlinson says that, at this point in 1998, 274 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,080 this is a year after the crash, 275 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:18,120 that it reminded him 276 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,120 of something he'd seen 277 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,600 while he was working in MI6, 278 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,280 which was a plot to assassinate a Serbian leader. 279 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:33,240 And that plot involved a plan 280 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:40,640 to kill them by staging a car accident in a tunnel, 281 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:46,000 with bright, flashing strobe lights disabling the chauffeur. 282 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Mr Levistre identified the much bigger flash, the second one, 283 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,120 and that came from THIS piece of kit. 284 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Now, this is an anti-personnel device, 285 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,080 quite legal to buy in the UK, which sets off 286 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,680 one enormously powerful flash of light. 287 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Shine this in somebody's eyes and 288 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,680 they'll be stunned, disabled, blinded for several minutes. 289 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,080 If you're driving a car when it happens, 290 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:12,120 you'll almost certainly crash. 291 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,520 I mean, I have seen a plan 292 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,120 to kill President Milosevic of Serbia, 293 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,240 so they do plan to kill people. 294 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,440 To say that they were directly involved in the death of 295 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,960 the Princess of Wales is a big step, 296 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,800 but everyone has got a right to know what MI6 are capable of, 297 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,880 what they actually do 298 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,720 and clearly there are a lot of information, 299 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,120 there's a lot of details in MI6 files which are relevant, 300 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,320 and I think those should be handed over. 301 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:34,440 So, you've got an ex-MI6 officer, who's inside 302 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,760 the organisation, saying these things. It has to be dealt with. 303 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,160 In order for us to fully understand whether 304 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,120 there was any credible evidence, 305 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,480 meant that we had to go and speak with MI6. 306 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,960 There was Lord Stevens, 307 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,680 myself and David Douglas drove to, 308 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,680 to Vauxhall Cross to ask them for access to their files 309 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,760 and their records. 310 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,360 We were in territory that no-one had ever been in before 311 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 asking for those records to be opened up 312 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,600 in a way that was unprecedented. 313 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,000 We hoped, at the end of the day, 314 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,840 we would convince them it was in the public interest, 315 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,160 THE public interest, that they should open up their records 316 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,160 so that we could do a proper job. 317 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,600 If we'd have turned round and said, 318 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,320 "We've found no credible evidence, 319 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,200 "but we haven't been to MI6. 320 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,840 "We haven't managed to gain access to their files," 321 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,880 we would have left a gaping door for those who wish to continue 322 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,560 the conspiracy theories to do just that. 323 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,160 We went to see the Director General of MI6 324 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,360 and we had a discussion about what we wanted to see 325 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,760 and what we didn't want to see. 326 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,560 And during that meeting, MI6 said, 327 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,640 "We know that the central plank of the allegation here 328 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,240 "is Richard Tomlinson saying there was this idea 329 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,360 "to assassinate someone in the Balkans." 330 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:14,320 There was that awkward moment where they did reveal that, 331 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:19,120 you know, there was some element of truth in the suggestion. 332 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,520 An officer, Witness A as he was known as, 333 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,400 put it forward briefly to the senior officer. 334 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,880 And it was only an idea. 335 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,720 So, it didn't go any further than that. 336 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,560 The thing is, that Witness A showed Tomlinson. 337 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,760 He said, "Look, this is my idea." 338 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,080 What Witness A is crystal-clear about is 339 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,400 there's no reference here to a tunnel or 340 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,640 a bright, strobing light or all of this sort of stuff. 341 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,680 There's just no reference to it at all. 342 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,640 I interviewed Tomlinson during Paget 343 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,480 and he said, "Yes, because of my anger, you know, at MI6, 344 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,400 "I may have mixed up my understanding of what I knew then 345 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,600 "and combined certain things." 346 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,760 When bright strobing lights and everything else falls away, 347 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,400 this becomes completely divorced from 1997. 348 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,800 But you can't blame Mr Al Fayed 349 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,400 for listening to that in the first place. 350 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,440 At the core of what Tomlinson was saying 351 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,320 was this scintilla of truth, that there was a plan 352 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,840 to assassinate somebody in the Balkans. 353 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,880 I think it demonstrates 354 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920 there is a state within a state 355 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,680 which is not accountable 356 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,640 and trying to get hold of the truth is not straightforward. 357 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,560 MI6's records are meticulous. 358 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,680 Every single thing they do is actually documented 359 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 and put on record. 360 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,200 I wanted access to everything. 361 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Only three people in MI6 would have that type of access. 362 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,400 It's called God's Access. 363 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,640 The lady who helped us was an MI6 officer, Miss X. 364 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080 She was given God's Access. 365 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:17,080 She could go anywhere in that system. 366 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:21,040 Basically, we checked hundreds and hundreds of things. 367 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,080 We wanted to find out 368 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,960 if certain names appeared anywhere in their database. 369 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,960 We did every search that we wanted to do for Operation Paget. 370 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,680 You can take it from me, there was nothing in there that had relevance 371 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,840 to what we were doing 372 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,960 in terms of evidence or taking our inquiries forward. 373 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,600 What we're not telling you is some of 374 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200 the precise details that we're not allowed to tell you. 375 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,920 I looked at lots of files 376 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,040 which really didn't have any link or relevance to the princess, 377 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,680 and I found them extremely interesting 378 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,480 but that's, goes with me and Dave Douglas to our graves. 379 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,400 I'm in a privileged position. 380 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,040 I know that we checked everything. 381 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,280 Make your own mind up, 382 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,000 but I know I'm telling the truth. 383 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,400 Of all the conspiracy theories that have swirled around 384 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Diana and Dodi's death, 385 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,760 the white Fiat Uno is one of the most persistent. 386 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,400 Mohamed Al Fayed claims that a white Fiat deliberately crashed 387 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,200 into their Mercedes as part of a plot by the Duke of Edinburgh 388 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,480 to kill the couple. 389 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,360 We do believe that there was a glancing contact between 390 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,280 the Mercedes driven by Henri Paul 391 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,800 and a white Fiat Uno just before the Alma underpass... 392 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,600 ..and much has been made of the French photo-journalist, 393 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,560 Mr James Andanson. 394 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,320 It's been alleged that he was the driver of the Fiat Uno. 395 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Mr Al Fayed thought James Andanson was the man 396 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,400 who was a spy for somebody. He was in Paris, 397 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,320 he drove his battered-up old Fiat Uno into the Mercedes. 398 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:24,240 In 2000, he died in strange circumstances. 399 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000 James Andanson's body was found in 400 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,880 a locked car which had completely burnt out. 401 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Now, James Andanson was burnt beyond recognition. 402 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,600 There's a hole in his head which, you could say, 403 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,600 "Oh, that was a gunshot wound." 404 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,360 There was all sorts of things in the newspapers saying 405 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,720 "Well, that's clearly the authorities murdering him," 406 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,360 and therefore, we had to look at him 407 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,960 to definitively rule him in or rule him out. 408 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,440 I got to see the photographs, 409 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,200 I got to see the postmortem reports 410 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,680 and the criminal reports 411 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,720 from the firemen and the police officers. 412 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,680 There's no doubt that there was an accelerant used 413 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,400 to cause the damage to the car, and to him. 414 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,480 His body was so badly damaged by the intensity of the fire. 415 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,080 The damage to the skull is entirely explained 416 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:27,560 by the ferocity and the length of the burning. 417 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,480 There was nothing to suggest that these 418 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040 were gunshot wounds in any way, shape or form. 419 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,640 There was nothing in my mind that 420 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,720 moved it out of suicide into murder. 421 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,560 We saw Mrs Andanson, his widow. 422 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,120 She said he couldn't have been in Paris when the crash happened. 423 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,960 He flew down to Corsica that morning on an assignment 424 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,960 to photograph Gilbert Becaud, 425 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,200 who apparently is a very famous French musician. 426 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,880 There was a photograph that he'd taken of Gilbert Becaud in his house 427 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,800 and behind Gilbert 428 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,840 the television was on, 429 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720 and you can see the TV cameras outside 430 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,640 the Pitie-Salpetriere Hospital 431 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,680 clearly focusing on what happened to Diana. 432 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,560 So, the bottom line, 433 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,760 James Andanson, he wasn't involved, it wasn't his car, 434 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,800 he had nothing to do with it. It wasn't James Andanson. 435 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,040 Diana and Dodi's Mercedes was involved in 436 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,640 a glancing collision with a white Fiat Uno, 437 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,880 but the driver of that car has never been traced, 438 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,840 despite a massive investigation by French police. 439 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,840 In the overall scheme of things, 440 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,040 it probably didn't matter in identifying the driver, 441 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,760 but the type of vehicle was important 442 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,600 because the allegation being that the Fiat was used 443 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,680 to deflect the Mercedes and cause the crash. 444 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Well, in my opinion, that's almost a laughable suggestion. 445 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 The Mercedes is nearly two tonnes in weight. 446 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,760 It was travelling at something approaching 70mph. 447 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,240 It has a colossal amount of momentum. 448 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,960 The Fiat is a little less than a ton 449 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280 and it was travelling significantly slower, 450 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,520 and you can liken that to 451 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,480 a huge New Zealand rugby player 452 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,040 running down the high street and banging into a pensioner. 453 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Purely and simply from the speeds and masses of the vehicles, 454 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,440 the Fiat cannot have been used 455 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240 to deliberately crash into the Mercedes 456 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,480 to cause it to go on and have a further crash. 457 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Another question that had been left open 458 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,640 was an allegation that there was a defect with the brakes 459 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,080 on the Mercedes. 460 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,320 Something had been done to the car to make it crash. 461 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800 She had mentioned that she thought that 462 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,560 the brakes might be tampered with 463 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,960 and, erm, that she might be the victim of an accident. 464 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,480 I drove her car sometimes, to reassure her, 465 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,040 but she thought her life was in danger. 466 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,600 The Diana I first knew, 467 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840 three or so years earlier, was not like that. 468 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200 This was different, this was sinister. 469 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,960 She now firmly believed that there were certain people 470 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,240 who had an agenda against her. 471 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,000 We examined the Mercedes in great detail, looking for defects 472 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,600 or conditions that caused or contributed to the crash. 473 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,200 We didn't find anything like that. 474 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360 It hadn't been tampered with at all. 475 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640 When you know the facts, it's quite simple. 476 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,640 What we know happened, from the forensic evidence, 477 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,000 from the debris, 478 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,640 the work that Tony Read did on the reconstruction, 479 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,440 the front right-hand side 480 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 of the Mercedes just clipped 481 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,040 the rear left-hand side of the Fiat Uno. 482 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,360 He tried to correct the movement of the Mercedes, 483 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,600 steered left and, sadly, went directly into the 13th pillar... 484 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,760 ..doing around 64 miles per hour. 485 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,560 The Mercedes hit the pillar, more or less in the front, 486 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920 which meant that all the momentum was concentrated 487 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,320 in one very, very small area. 488 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,000 One massive impact where the occupants were subject 489 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,560 to tremendous forces. 490 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,600 Neither of the rear occupants were wearing a seat belt 491 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,440 and I'm firmly convinced that if both of the occupants 492 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,120 had been wearing seat belts, they almost certainly would've survived. 493 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080 It was a survivable crash. 494 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,840 I'm confident on the evidence that we have now that 495 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,720 a full and comprehensive picture of the events is there. 496 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,840 Now, what exactly happened 497 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600 is a matter for the inquest to decide. 498 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840 However, our conclusion is that 499 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,640 there was no conspiracy to murder any occupants 500 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,000 of that car. 501 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,960 This was a tragic accident. 502 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,200 We'd decided that... 503 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,200 ..we were gonna give the report on the morning to the Princes, 504 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,280 representing Diana and to Mohamed Al-Fayed, representing Dodi. 505 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,160 And Lord Stevens made himself available to go to Harrods 506 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,280 to deliver it. 507 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Mr Al-Fayed, at that point, 508 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,240 that was it, he wasn't going to see Lord Stevens again. 509 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,520 Do you still categorically believe that members 510 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,440 of the Royal family conspired to have your son and Diana murdered? 511 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,280 I am certain. 512 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,120 100%. 513 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,080 Mr Al Fayed, when it was put to Lord Steven's this morning 514 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,520 that you thought the inquiry is a cover-up and a whitewash, 515 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,280 he dismissed you as a grieving parent, that your judgment... 516 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120 That I go crazy and do things like that. ..clouded. 517 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Yeah, because he's himself mental case to say that. No, no, sir... 518 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,040 Just to do that, to say that I'm a grieving father, 519 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,800 I'm gonna talk nonsense. 90% of the ordinary people 520 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,680 of this country support me and with this support, I have the power. 521 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,040 With God's blessing, I'm not gonna rest until I expose... 522 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,360 ..the devastation those gangsters have inflicted on me. 523 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680 THROUGH PHONE: What evidence do you have that Lord Stevens, 524 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,800 whom you described, when he was appointed, 525 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,520 as a man of total integrity, who's determined to discover the truth, 526 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,360 what evidence do you have that he's not behaving properly? 527 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,560 There's so many unanswered questions. 528 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Is this really an honest inquiry? 529 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Well... He's just done what British Intelligence have asked. 530 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120 He has betrayed me, betrayed the country... 531 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Unfortunately, I'm being let down. 532 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840 I suppose when you put that type of effort in, 533 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,000 you hope you've got a kind of a mutual trust between 534 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920 the two of you, that he's gonna give you a little bit 535 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,560 of credibility for what you've done 536 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,760 and he didn't give any credibility to me at all. 537 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,600 In fact, he accused me of being a criminal and a liar. 538 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640 If Lord Stevens was corrupt, 539 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,920 if he was a tool of the state, then, we were, by extension, 540 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,200 the same thing. 541 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,400 You're talking about officers from all aspects of the police service, 542 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,960 they come along, they do the best job they can... 543 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,520 To suggest that we'd all got together and decided to conspire, 544 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,400 to make up this version of events is ridiculous. 545 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040 We did a really, really thorough job 546 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,320 and you take a sense of pride in that you've done a good job and... 547 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,800 ..that, yeah, at the end of it, 548 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,160 we are all 100% sure there was no conspiracy. 549 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,680 It was an honest, straight-down-the-line-investigation 550 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,840 by a bunch of people, ordinary detectives, 551 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,000 brought in, who just thought, "Yeah, let's get on and do this." 552 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,840 PRESENTER: William and Harry have said today that they hoped 553 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,360 the Stevens' report would bring an end to the speculation 554 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,000 surrounding their mother's death. 555 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,000 What they can clearly never forget, though, is how the paparazzi 556 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440 behaved in the last moments of her life. 557 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,440 Before the report came out, I had a one-to-one with both Princes, 558 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,920 to take them through the inquiry 559 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,840 and answer any of the questions that they wanted to ask. 560 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,840 It was a difficult session for them and... 561 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920 ..probably quite difficult for me, really, 562 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,600 because they wanted to know... 563 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,400 ..they had very pertinent questions about what had happened 564 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,480 to their mother. 565 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,400 It was the first time they'd heard in detail what had taken place. 566 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Harry in particular 567 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,960 was almost angry that this big distraction about conspiracy, 568 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,280 that she was murdered, 569 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,160 was given so much air time and so much legitimacy. 570 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,040 And I've had that discussion with him. 571 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,520 I mean, imagine what it's like, 572 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,880 not only do you lose your mother when you're 12 years old 573 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,960 in a car accident, but then the only thing anyone ever says about them 574 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,600 for the next ten years, 15 years of your life, 575 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,480 is whether or not they were murdered. 576 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:57,880 William and Harry, 577 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,800 we are all chewed up with sadness at the loss of a woman 578 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,240 who wasn't even our mother. 579 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,000 How great your suffering is, we cannot even imagine. 580 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:14,080 Ultimately, you had two young boys grieving. 581 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,280 They were probably more affected than anybody else. 582 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,720 To have somebody suggest that their father 583 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000 and their grandfather had some responsibility 584 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,000 for their mother's death... 585 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,560 You know, no matter how small that kind of concern was 586 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040 and the fact that it was constantly being repeated 587 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,440 in the press, 588 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,040 to be able to give them confidence as to what happened 589 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,680 and why it happened in itself was really important. 590 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,560 All of the matters contained in the Stevens Report 591 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,000 need to be thoroughly tested. 592 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:15,360 Lord Stevens said that such matters were best decided by an inquest, 593 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,040 and we certainly concur that everything 594 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:25,240 should be put before a jury of ordinary people in public, 595 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,920 in a coroner's court. 596 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Having an inquest was extremely important. 597 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000 I have a great belief in the jury system. 598 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,400 I would much prefer an issue to be tried 599 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:48,360 by a number of ordinary people than, um, a professional judge 600 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,480 who may have prejudiced views about particular issues. 601 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,600 Michael Mansfield was doing his job, and highly proficiently, 602 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,400 and, when a jury's involved, there's a bit of theatre around it 603 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,240 and you've got to be aware of that, and the theatre is, you know, 604 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,120 "Is he going to impress a jury that what we were saying wasn't right? 605 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,280 "Was he going to try and influence the jury in coming to a conclusion 606 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,240 "that all those three years were not done 607 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,200 "in the thorough fashion they were done?" 608 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,960 And if he can put a kind of question mark over all of that, then, 609 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520 you know, he's done the job that he's been paid to do by his client. 610 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,800 It was the day that Al-Fayed's personal obsessions 611 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,560 would get their public hearing. 612 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,240 There were clues on the court steps that he was going to let rip. 613 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,600 This is moment for me to say exactly what I feel, 614 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,880 and, with God's help, I hope the truth will come out. 615 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,240 He produces photographs of the Duke of Edinburgh 616 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,040 marching alongside certain undesirable Nazis before the War. 617 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,760 I mean, you know, it's sort of, um... 618 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,840 Yeah, he did all that. 619 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,000 But, in a way, that was half-expected 620 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,760 because he'd been doing it - that's how he's always performed. 621 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,200 Mr Al-Fayed left the court looking delighted with his performance 622 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,960 but wasn't pleased to be questioned by journalists. 623 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,760 But the evidence doesn't back you up, does it, Mr Al-Fayed? 624 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,160 What evidence? The evidence is that she was not pregnant. 625 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,360 I'm not talking to you because you are a bloody idiot, 626 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160 you're part of the establishment and you journalists belong... 627 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,880 You work for MI... The evidence... You work for MI6, you idiot. 628 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,040 Come on, come on. 629 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,520 Always in the back of my mind 630 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,120 was the jury had to come to their verdict 631 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,960 based on the evidence that we presented, 632 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,440 and what was presented also by, er... 633 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,800 ..Mr Fayed's team and other people. 634 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160 The jury could have been highly critical, 635 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,840 and, you know, that's the chance - 636 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,560 you never...you never know what's going to happen, 637 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,240 and you hope for the best, and you do your best, 638 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,000 but you don't really know what's gonna happen at the end of the day. 639 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,720 So, yeah, I was nervous all right. 640 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,680 She died in the prime of her life at the height of her fame. 641 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,120 A tragic death clouded by rumour and suspicion. 642 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,000 But the jury's decision? 643 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,720 There was no conspiracy, no murder. 644 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,280 Diana and Dodi wouldn't have died 645 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,040 had Henri Paul and the photographers he fled from acted differently. 646 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,280 They also pointed to Diana and Dodi's failure to wear seat belts 647 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,360 and said the fact the car hit a pillar 648 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,640 rather than the tunnel wall contributed to their deaths. 649 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,360 I was relieved when they came out with the verdict they did. 650 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,400 I really was. 651 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,040 The team deserved that, 652 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,240 because they had worked their guts out to get to where we did. 653 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,520 I just hope that this can bring closure 654 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,680 to what has been a traumatic event for a lot of people. 655 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:59,480 Mr Al-Fayed has said that he will accept the verdict of the jury. 656 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,760 On hearing the verdict he least wanted, 657 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,880 Mr Al-Fayed cancelled a planned press conference 658 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,960 and swept away from court by car, 659 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320 leaving his spokeswoman to suggest that, in his mind, at least, 660 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,440 the conspiracy theories rage on. 661 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,840 I am disappointed. 662 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,200 The verdicts will come as a blow to the many millions of people 663 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:24,360 around the world who supported my struggle, and I thank them. 664 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,040 I've always believed that Prince Philip and the Queen 665 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,880 hold valuable evidence that only they know. 666 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,640 They were not even questioned, but they should have been. 667 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,960 No-one should be above the law. 668 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,880 At the end of it, there has to be a line in the sand. 669 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,640 You have to reflect, and you've done everything 670 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,280 that was as human... was humanly possible. 671 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,960 Now, difficult though it is... 672 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000 ..let it go, 673 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,840 because otherwise it'll eat you up. 674 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,480 Mr Al-Fayed, you said during the inquest 675 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,160 that you would accept its verdict. Do you do so now? 676 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,160 I have decided... 677 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,680 ..I think, time for me now, 678 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,680 I accept the verdict, but with a lot of... 679 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,160 ..really things which I am not approving 100%. 680 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,440 There's still a lot of option, but I'm tired, you know? 681 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,400 So you don't want to go on any further? 682 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,320 It's difficult for me. 683 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,960 For your own preservation, your own peace of mind, 684 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200 your own stability, 685 00:41:55,240 --> 00:42:00,960 you can say to yourself, "I've done everything I can do for my son," 686 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,000 and, to give him his due, he's let it go. 687 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,960 OFF-SCREEN: I think that's enough. Mr Al-Fayed, thank you so much. 688 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,800 I'm sorry to have put you through this. Thank you. Thank you so much. 689 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,400 Thank you, sir. 690 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,680 By all means, question everything that's in that Paget Report. 691 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,200 Question anything you want, 692 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,320 but question it on the evidence and the facts. 693 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120 Don't question it on a headline that you saw last week 694 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,520 or what your Aunt Mabel told you she'd heard the week before. 695 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,640 Look at the facts. 696 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,800 That is just a dreadful story. 697 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,360 Oh, God. 698 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,280 You write utter nonsense because you know it's gonna sell. 699 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,360 My job was to write something people wanted to read. 700 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,120 My job was to, you know, 701 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,320 write a newspaper article that five million people 702 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160 would put their hands in their pocket and pay a pound for. 703 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,120 Quite a lot of what I wrote was not true, 704 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,600 but it was equally a little bit true, 705 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,200 and that's why the papers absolutely loved conspiracy theories 706 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,280 because they were, um... 707 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,360 You'd just make them up, basically. 708 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,720 Whereas the truth was much less interesting. 709 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,520 I never met a journalist who thought Princess Diana was murdered, 710 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,120 but I know a lot of newspapers that published stories - 711 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,640 including my own, at times - 712 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,800 that wouldn't have probably given that impression to the public. 713 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,080 And you get in a situation where everyone can gain financially, 714 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,440 and the one thing that just disappears out of the room 715 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,760 is the truth. 716 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,600 But my view of it never changed from start to finish. 717 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,440 I wanted it to be a murder. It's a far better story. 718 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,320 I mean, she's dead, so it might as well be a good story how she died. 719 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,800 It's not, it was an accident. It should never have happened, 720 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,080 and it's an incredibly tragic one, at that, 721 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,680 and that's the end of the story. 722 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,360 24 years after the event. 723 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,200 Probably wasn't even alive at the time of the crash. 724 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,240 Not true. 725 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,200 Not true. Just look at the facts. 726 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,440 There's something, I think, in the human psyche 727 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,040 where you just can't believe that the Princess of Wales 728 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,680 died in such a... 729 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:09,840 I hate to say mundane, but a straightforward way, 730 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,160 just in a car crash. That cannot be true, it can't be true. 731 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,520 So they look for other explanations for it. 732 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,280 There is no other explanation. 733 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:25,600 The conspiracy theories will never go away. 734 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,520 It's just gonna go on. Full stop. 735 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,880 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 58790

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