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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,475 --> 00:00:18,812 Every year, over 20,000 child actors audition for roles in Hollywood. 2 00:00:19,396 --> 00:00:22,691 Ninety-five percent of them don't book a single job. 3 00:01:56,869 --> 00:01:59,580 SHOWBIZ KIDS 4 00:02:14,219 --> 00:02:16,430 It was just one of those things. 5 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:22,978 I didn't know what a regular kid was because I didn't have any friends. 6 00:02:26,523 --> 00:02:28,942 'Cause there were certain limitations. 7 00:02:29,068 --> 00:02:32,946 I didn't know there was another world out there for children. 8 00:02:36,325 --> 00:02:39,745 And the life of a child was not my life. 9 00:02:46,043 --> 00:02:48,962 As of 1920, I started to work. 10 00:02:51,215 --> 00:02:54,009 I was born in 1918, so I went to work at two. 11 00:02:56,929 --> 00:02:59,515 I didn't realize it was so special. 12 00:03:01,183 --> 00:03:05,604 I thought every parent had worked as a child for their parents. 13 00:03:07,564 --> 00:03:09,564 I had put that together. 14 00:03:10,567 --> 00:03:13,904 I was a piece of cake as far as a director was concerned. 15 00:03:14,029 --> 00:03:17,116 Anything they told me to do I did without any fuss. 16 00:03:23,288 --> 00:03:26,667 I had three big feature films, were very successful. 17 00:03:28,585 --> 00:03:31,588 So I went on with my career for quite a while. 18 00:03:37,845 --> 00:03:41,723 We had employees, we had a chauffeur, and we had maids, 19 00:03:42,057 --> 00:03:47,020 we had a cook, and this was because we couldn't function as a star 20 00:03:47,146 --> 00:03:49,606 without those accoutrements. 21 00:03:51,817 --> 00:03:54,111 They even had a doll made for me. 22 00:03:56,071 --> 00:03:59,283 They featured me as the million dollar child star. 23 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,911 Every film was going to be a million dollars. 24 00:04:04,496 --> 00:04:09,668 But my father discovered that he would not be cut into the profits, 25 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:12,210 so my father got furious. 26 00:04:12,546 --> 00:04:18,427 So he quit. He broke the contract. And my career was over at seven. 27 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:34,443 My name is Marc Slater, I'm reading for the role of Proud Peacock. 28 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:41,074 Born to a family of all my heroes in the veil of the great spirit. 29 00:04:42,409 --> 00:04:45,621 With the kids, I feel like the rings around Saturn. 30 00:04:45,746 --> 00:04:49,208 I feel like he and I, at this point, we're on this outer ring. 31 00:04:49,458 --> 00:04:52,377 Your physical appearance and your parents... 32 00:04:55,964 --> 00:04:59,218 For every hundred auditions, you're going to get one. 33 00:04:59,343 --> 00:05:02,513 So if we're on the outer ring of Saturn, how long is it 34 00:05:02,638 --> 00:05:06,475 before we get to the second ring closer with the call back ring ? 35 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,146 This is the callback ring of kids that have done this or that. 36 00:05:12,981 --> 00:05:19,905 Let me get this straight. It goes audition, callback, booked, 37 00:05:21,031 --> 00:05:23,450 and the planet is the job, you got it. 38 00:05:25,661 --> 00:05:29,081 Marc and Melanie have come to Los Angeles from Orlando 39 00:05:29,206 --> 00:05:31,250 to audition for pilot season. 40 00:05:31,416 --> 00:05:35,212 Marc had expressed interest that he wanted to be an actor. 41 00:05:39,591 --> 00:05:44,012 He watched movies, and he was always trying to portray that character. 42 00:05:44,346 --> 00:05:48,559 And so when he portrayed that, he would do really good imitating. 43 00:05:48,976 --> 00:05:52,145 Imitation was amazing. So... 44 00:05:54,898 --> 00:05:58,527 You have the stage moms, you know, 45 00:05:58,735 --> 00:06:01,989 and I don't ever want to be one of those 46 00:06:02,197 --> 00:06:07,202 because you see them, and they have told me that I was a bad mother 47 00:06:07,619 --> 00:06:10,581 because I let him go to karate. I let him spar. 48 00:06:11,415 --> 00:06:15,127 They said, "This is the money maker. Don't let him..." 49 00:06:18,630 --> 00:06:20,630 I'm horrified. 50 00:06:26,221 --> 00:06:30,309 I'll be right here. 51 00:06:31,893 --> 00:06:34,021 Acting scared the hell out of me. 52 00:06:34,146 --> 00:06:37,774 I pissed my pants the first time I was on stage just outright. 53 00:06:38,233 --> 00:06:42,237 Then as I was sitting in the wings waiting for my pants to dry, 54 00:06:42,779 --> 00:06:46,908 I thought, it's not so bad. I don't think I'll do that again. 55 00:06:51,788 --> 00:06:56,084 I grew up in South Texas, sort of in a rural community. 56 00:06:57,044 --> 00:06:59,713 Being an actor wasn't really on the radar. 57 00:06:59,838 --> 00:07:04,176 There weren't a lot of guys going off to Hollywood in my neighborhood. 58 00:07:04,301 --> 00:07:08,013 The only kind of show business was like rodeo show business. 59 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,684 My piano teacher was the musical director for the local theater. 60 00:07:12,893 --> 00:07:16,688 She got me involved in acting, and I thought it was great 61 00:07:16,855 --> 00:07:19,566 because it took me out of piano lessons. 62 00:07:21,109 --> 00:07:24,780 I thought like I could do this. I could do this acting thing. 63 00:07:24,988 --> 00:07:27,824 Momma ? Did our Daddy love us ? 64 00:07:28,784 --> 00:07:31,953 I was acting, and I was reading lines 65 00:07:32,287 --> 00:07:36,166 but I still didn't really have an idea of what I was doing. 66 00:07:37,417 --> 00:07:41,630 And nothing about the film industry. We didn't know what was right 67 00:07:41,755 --> 00:07:45,425 and you hear all sorts of horror stories of course. 68 00:07:46,426 --> 00:07:47,552 Hollywood tales. 69 00:07:47,678 --> 00:07:51,431 Breaking news from Los Angeles where '80s heartthrob Corey Haim 70 00:07:51,556 --> 00:07:53,934 has died from an apparent overdose. 71 00:07:54,059 --> 00:07:58,355 Troubled pop singer, Britney Spears, has been carried out of her home 72 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,816 on a stretcher and taken to hospital. 73 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,195 Shia Lebeouf, taken out of a Broadway theater in handcuffs. 74 00:08:05,487 --> 00:08:08,615 Lindsay Lohan spent her first night in jail Tuesday 75 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:12,786 on charges of parole violation relating to a 2007 DUI conviction. 76 00:08:12,911 --> 00:08:16,790 It's 90 days in jail. The court's also going to order... 77 00:08:17,624 --> 00:08:20,669 My parents knew nothing about the business. 78 00:08:20,877 --> 00:08:24,840 It kind of scared them, I think. You hear all these horror stories. 79 00:08:25,006 --> 00:08:29,594 Hey, I'm Cameron Boyce from "Jessie," and you're watching Disney Channel. 80 00:08:31,930 --> 00:08:35,559 I was actually gonna ask if I could cuss 'cause I was like... 81 00:08:35,809 --> 00:08:39,312 But like for a Disney kid... I know, it's HBO. Fuck, right. 82 00:08:39,813 --> 00:08:43,442 But from a Disney kid, I'm thinking about that. 83 00:08:44,192 --> 00:08:45,752 I'm like, should I ? 84 00:08:45,902 --> 00:08:48,321 Didn't anyone ever teach you to knock ? 85 00:08:48,947 --> 00:08:51,116 I did knock. You did not hear it. 86 00:08:52,075 --> 00:08:54,075 After this, knock harder. 87 00:08:54,536 --> 00:08:57,247 I hated it, to be honest. I hated working. 88 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:00,041 I hated going on set. 89 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:07,841 I was 11 years old. I was a little girl that wanted to play with dolls. 90 00:09:08,216 --> 00:09:10,343 I always wanted to be in show business. 91 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:14,598 I used to watch "Sanford and Son," and I wanted to be on television. 92 00:09:14,723 --> 00:09:17,350 I told my mom that I was gonna be an actor on TV. 93 00:09:25,692 --> 00:09:29,988 I did the first commercial that was ever made where it goes, "Butter". 94 00:09:31,406 --> 00:09:33,450 Tastes good. You are butter. 95 00:09:35,285 --> 00:09:37,179 Parkay. 96 00:09:37,329 --> 00:09:39,790 - Did you do that ? - No, it was the Parkay. 97 00:09:39,915 --> 00:09:42,584 The songs, the stories that I would make up 98 00:09:42,709 --> 00:09:47,088 and the performing that I would do, people wanted to watch you perform. 99 00:09:47,214 --> 00:09:52,219 It wasn't you holding your family captive on holidays to see the show 100 00:09:52,344 --> 00:09:55,889 that you made up about it. That was when I put that together 101 00:09:56,014 --> 00:09:59,226 and I went to my mom and I told her that I wanted to act. 102 00:09:59,893 --> 00:10:03,605 And one and two and three and four. 103 00:10:04,105 --> 00:10:07,108 Quietly. Five and six. Seven and eight. 104 00:10:07,776 --> 00:10:10,821 One and two, three and four, 105 00:10:11,196 --> 00:10:15,909 five and six, and seven and eight. You're on the little toe on this foot. 106 00:10:16,827 --> 00:10:19,704 Quietly. Other foot. 107 00:10:20,956 --> 00:10:22,599 I'm Demi. 108 00:10:22,749 --> 00:10:26,086 I'm originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. 109 00:10:26,628 --> 00:10:29,714 And I moved to New York when I was three years old. 110 00:10:30,215 --> 00:10:33,301 Good afternoon, Times Square. How is everybody ? 111 00:10:34,177 --> 00:10:36,972 Early on, I knew that she wanted to perform. 112 00:10:43,311 --> 00:10:46,398 Before I started acting, I wanted to be a pop star. 113 00:10:46,523 --> 00:10:50,569 Before I started singing, I wanted to be a ballerina or a gymnast. 114 00:10:50,944 --> 00:10:53,280 What was the first thing you booked ? 115 00:10:54,990 --> 00:10:57,868 The first big thing was "School of Rock". 116 00:11:00,787 --> 00:11:04,791 I was in it for 10 months if you include the rehearsals and stuff. 117 00:11:04,916 --> 00:11:07,794 It was a lot of fun. And I made a lot of friends. 118 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:14,968 She left "School of Rock," and two days later, she booked "Lion King". 119 00:11:15,594 --> 00:11:17,554 How long were you in Lion King ? 120 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,679 Six, just six months. 121 00:11:22,309 --> 00:11:25,228 And then she left to do the Epix show, so... 122 00:11:25,896 --> 00:11:29,274 I've been on the street for 30 years. And I'm still here. 123 00:11:32,152 --> 00:11:36,281 So she's been really busy for the past couple years. Like nonstop. 124 00:11:43,330 --> 00:11:46,333 I was three years old when I started performing. 125 00:11:46,458 --> 00:11:50,587 I would perform every holiday for my family. 126 00:11:50,837 --> 00:11:54,591 I would gather my cousins and construct different plays 127 00:11:54,716 --> 00:11:57,677 and play something on the piano for Christmas. 128 00:11:57,802 --> 00:12:00,305 It was always some kind of holiday show. 129 00:12:00,430 --> 00:12:04,517 My grandmother made sure I was in dance class, tap dance, ballet, 130 00:12:04,643 --> 00:12:07,520 pottery, piano lessons, singing lessons. 131 00:12:07,646 --> 00:12:09,940 My Saturdays and my after school 132 00:12:10,065 --> 00:12:14,361 were full of learning different skill sets for the arts. 133 00:12:16,571 --> 00:12:20,784 My mom wanted to be an actor and wanted to be a model 134 00:12:21,326 --> 00:12:25,121 and she didn't get a lot of support from my grandmother. 135 00:12:25,872 --> 00:12:30,669 In my opinion, she went maybe a little too far 136 00:12:31,002 --> 00:12:37,008 encouraging me to go into the industry that she wanted to go into. 137 00:12:38,301 --> 00:12:42,514 It was never my idea. I don't know a 7 year old who wants to go to work. 138 00:12:42,973 --> 00:12:46,768 Somebody's a child star when they're really good at juggling 139 00:12:46,935 --> 00:12:53,775 and hackie sacks and weird skill that you had to master by yourself. 140 00:12:54,943 --> 00:12:58,863 Everyone's like, "How do you know how to do all this weird stuff?" 141 00:12:58,989 --> 00:13:01,574 Because I spent a lot of time alone on set. 142 00:13:02,617 --> 00:13:06,162 Doing school in a trailer, being alone in hotel rooms. 143 00:13:07,288 --> 00:13:09,874 You're very much isolated most of the time 144 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,128 and it's a very fulfilling but lonely experience. 145 00:13:13,420 --> 00:13:15,672 It's a lot of time alone. 146 00:13:28,309 --> 00:13:32,897 Usually, you audition for an agency, you get an agent, you take lessons... 147 00:13:33,481 --> 00:13:37,027 But my mom taught me. She was an actress and an acting coach. 148 00:13:38,361 --> 00:13:40,613 Also a manager. She does everything. 149 00:13:41,031 --> 00:13:43,700 Don't you look wonderful, Willis ? 150 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,997 - But why the sunglasses ? - So nobody recognizes me. 151 00:13:52,834 --> 00:13:56,463 I started with commercials. I got a lot of different roles. 152 00:13:56,588 --> 00:13:59,466 Would you rather be black and live to be a hundred 153 00:13:59,841 --> 00:14:01,841 or white and live to be 50 ? 154 00:14:02,635 --> 00:14:06,848 And you weren't really a child there, you were more of a mini adult. 155 00:14:07,557 --> 00:14:12,437 My mom was a real mom. I could do kids' stuff. 156 00:14:13,188 --> 00:14:17,275 I got to play little league baseball and played Pop Warner football, 157 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,152 even though I was working. 158 00:14:19,277 --> 00:14:22,030 I was able to be a regular child, 159 00:14:22,197 --> 00:14:25,075 and most other actors were not able to do that. 160 00:14:25,241 --> 00:14:28,953 Most child actors don't get a chance to be regular children. 161 00:14:30,538 --> 00:14:34,084 There was a sort of snobbery in our family about acting 162 00:14:34,292 --> 00:14:36,628 and about the right way to go about it 163 00:14:36,753 --> 00:14:40,048 and the right way to present yourself in that we weren't going to be 164 00:14:40,173 --> 00:14:42,926 the cutesy like child stars, we were serious. 165 00:14:43,093 --> 00:14:46,679 We were gonna do this right. It was about doing great work. 166 00:14:46,805 --> 00:14:49,891 Working with great people, we were kind of snobs. 167 00:14:58,149 --> 00:15:03,071 I came from a family of artists. I grew up in Raleigh, North Carolina. 168 00:15:04,197 --> 00:15:09,077 And my father ran a regional theater. Still runs the theater there. 169 00:15:09,494 --> 00:15:12,580 My name is Cobweb. This is Maude. We're fairies. 170 00:15:12,747 --> 00:15:15,166 I'm not Maude. I'm Motts Ladybug. 171 00:15:16,376 --> 00:15:20,004 It was just kind of normal. It's just something that I did. 172 00:15:20,130 --> 00:15:22,130 'Cause everyone did it. 173 00:15:28,096 --> 00:15:30,431 Look what you girls have been up to. 174 00:15:30,682 --> 00:15:34,769 There was a part of me that just really wanted to play, 175 00:15:35,019 --> 00:15:37,522 and it was really apparent early on 176 00:15:37,647 --> 00:15:40,817 that you would get in trouble if you wanted to play. 177 00:15:40,984 --> 00:15:45,113 It would be very disappointing to people if I didn't want to do this 178 00:15:45,238 --> 00:15:46,906 because I was talented. 179 00:15:47,031 --> 00:15:50,618 At a very young age I connected to something and was able 180 00:15:50,743 --> 00:15:54,706 to communicate through this medium in a way that, 181 00:15:55,039 --> 00:16:00,295 if I didn't want to pursue it, the vibe was, what a waste. 182 00:16:01,421 --> 00:16:06,050 I can' believe you won't do it, you won't pursue this. You're so good at it. 183 00:16:07,010 --> 00:16:10,513 And so I didn't feel like I could stop because I was good. 184 00:16:11,055 --> 00:16:13,055 So I just did it. 185 00:16:23,735 --> 00:16:27,488 If you get cast, I think they're gonna let these chefs, 186 00:16:27,780 --> 00:16:32,243 they're gonna try to make your dish, and then you get to be the judge of... 187 00:16:32,410 --> 00:16:34,913 - Today ? - I don't think that's today. 188 00:16:35,413 --> 00:16:37,916 That's gonna be on the show if I get it. 189 00:16:39,417 --> 00:16:42,462 Jeff, my husband, sat down, we had a conversation, 190 00:16:42,587 --> 00:16:44,964 and I'm like, "Can we do this?". Last year, it was easier 191 00:16:45,089 --> 00:16:48,176 because he had a better job, he just changed companies. 192 00:16:48,343 --> 00:16:50,887 This year, we've had to go into savings. 193 00:16:51,554 --> 00:16:56,100 I think it'll be easier for us if we make it than if we don't. 194 00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:59,854 We're spending a lot of money, we're working hard, 195 00:16:59,979 --> 00:17:03,524 we're both doing the equivalent of two jobs in some ways. 196 00:17:06,486 --> 00:17:09,572 - I want to take a picture over here. - What a day ! 197 00:17:12,325 --> 00:17:14,325 Good. Okay. 198 00:17:14,869 --> 00:17:16,869 - So how did it go ? - Great. 199 00:17:18,081 --> 00:17:24,379 I spent nearly every day after school driving into Hollywood for auditions 200 00:17:25,129 --> 00:17:27,840 and going to the agency and all that stuff. 201 00:17:29,133 --> 00:17:31,133 I'm the oldest of three kids. 202 00:17:31,427 --> 00:17:34,555 I'm the only one who was put into show business. 203 00:17:36,099 --> 00:17:40,603 I was a successful commercial actor, really good at taking directions. 204 00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:45,024 - How's business ? - Not bad for a bounty hunter. 205 00:17:45,149 --> 00:17:49,112 Chewbacca, Princess Leia, new driver action figures, each sold separately. 206 00:17:49,237 --> 00:17:52,865 I had been cast in a commercial, and what they wanted me to do 207 00:17:52,991 --> 00:17:56,577 was take a big bite of this brownie and then sing the song. 208 00:17:56,744 --> 00:18:00,873 I was doing what I was told to do, but there was brownie in my teeth. 209 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,002 And this director kept yelling at me about it. 210 00:18:04,252 --> 00:18:08,172 I was like eight or nine years old. This guy's just yelling at me. 211 00:18:08,298 --> 00:18:12,135 It's super abusive. But I'm nine or eight or whatever. 212 00:18:12,260 --> 00:18:15,221 I can't express that I didn't know how to do that. 213 00:18:15,346 --> 00:18:18,975 What I ended up doing is getting through the day, finishing the job, 214 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:22,270 and then saying to my mom, "I don't want to do commercials anymore." 215 00:18:22,395 --> 00:18:26,858 "I want to do movies." So I stopped going on commercial auditions, 216 00:18:26,983 --> 00:18:30,653 and I started going on theatrical auditions. 217 00:18:32,905 --> 00:18:36,534 - I am Landen Dawson. - Hi, my name is Natalie Parker. 218 00:18:36,868 --> 00:18:38,868 Kaylee Rollins. 219 00:18:40,371 --> 00:18:42,182 Hi ! 220 00:18:42,332 --> 00:18:43,975 Hello, my name is Tam. 221 00:18:44,125 --> 00:18:46,210 - I am eight years old. - I'm four. 222 00:18:46,336 --> 00:18:50,715 - I'm 10 years old. - My age range is six to eight. 223 00:18:51,132 --> 00:18:52,734 Reading the role of Alex. 224 00:18:52,884 --> 00:18:54,635 What do you think you're doing ? 225 00:18:54,761 --> 00:18:57,096 What do we look like, fricken Charlie Brown ? 226 00:18:57,305 --> 00:19:00,433 Juiciest, freshest tomatoes made in our bottle. 227 00:19:05,938 --> 00:19:10,151 Julie and those kids have been harassing me at lunch every dang day, 228 00:19:10,276 --> 00:19:11,569 and I hit her. 229 00:19:11,694 --> 00:19:14,864 That may be, but instigators will not be tolerated. 230 00:19:14,989 --> 00:19:19,035 - I'm suspending her for a week. - He can't do that. I'll miss band. 231 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,164 My mom and my brothers set up this kind of like mock audition for me 232 00:19:23,289 --> 00:19:25,266 and then told me at the end, 233 00:19:25,416 --> 00:19:28,753 "Okay, you were very good, but you didn't get the part." 234 00:19:28,878 --> 00:19:32,006 I said, "That's okay, I could just go on another one." 235 00:19:33,257 --> 00:19:36,177 I was born and raised in Burbank, California. 236 00:19:36,928 --> 00:19:40,598 Growing up there meant that you were going to see other kids 237 00:19:40,723 --> 00:19:43,309 going to auditions the same way you did. 238 00:19:43,434 --> 00:19:46,938 It was like the way that other kids did youth soccer. 239 00:19:47,188 --> 00:19:51,484 Or Girl Scouts. I was a Girl Scout, and I went on auditions. 240 00:19:54,278 --> 00:19:57,698 It felt kind of normal, and I don't think my parents would've let me do it 241 00:19:57,907 --> 00:20:01,411 if they had ever thought that I would be cast in movies. 242 00:20:01,953 --> 00:20:04,789 They would have wanted to keep it very small, 243 00:20:04,914 --> 00:20:07,417 like putting away money for college, 244 00:20:07,542 --> 00:20:10,753 have some fun with it, but nothing really that big. 245 00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:17,049 So I was a dancer originally. 246 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,972 At six years old, I was taking dance classes. 247 00:20:23,224 --> 00:20:26,269 We had like a little recital at the end of the year, 248 00:20:26,394 --> 00:20:30,565 and that recital was the thing that led my parents to go, 249 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:34,068 "Oh, he might be able to do that. He seems like he's having fun." 250 00:20:34,193 --> 00:20:36,279 I was the only kid who seemed interested at all. 251 00:20:36,404 --> 00:20:39,866 Everyone else was picking their nose and digging in their butts. 252 00:20:39,991 --> 00:20:43,327 There were plenty of times where you go on a thousand auditions 253 00:20:43,453 --> 00:20:45,746 and you book none of them, and my dad is going, 254 00:20:45,913 --> 00:20:48,207 "Why am I pulling you out of school two hours early" 255 00:20:48,416 --> 00:20:51,127 "just so you can go and fail at this audition ?" 256 00:20:51,252 --> 00:20:54,464 Once I started booking things, it made a little more sense, 257 00:20:54,589 --> 00:20:58,718 sort of became a part of my life. A big part of my life for a long time. 258 00:20:59,927 --> 00:21:04,098 I was not following you. And no, Dad would not let you keep a falcon. 259 00:21:06,267 --> 00:21:08,603 I always say genius skips a generation 260 00:21:08,728 --> 00:21:12,315 'cause my daughter and my mother are incredible actresses, 261 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,942 and I have to work so hard to find it. 262 00:21:17,111 --> 00:21:20,740 I grew up in California mostly. I was born in Russia. 263 00:21:21,699 --> 00:21:27,288 My father was a doctor, my mother was a movie star in the former USSR. 264 00:21:28,456 --> 00:21:33,044 My parents ended up finding a job being a cook and a housekeeper 265 00:21:33,252 --> 00:21:36,380 at this big mansion up off Mulholland. 266 00:21:37,256 --> 00:21:41,135 All these movies stars and big directors were staying there. 267 00:21:43,012 --> 00:21:47,099 My mom was expecting that she would walk into the room with food 268 00:21:47,225 --> 00:21:51,771 and they would be like, "Put the tray down. You should be sitting with us." 269 00:21:52,772 --> 00:21:54,772 And that didn't happen. 270 00:21:55,691 --> 00:22:01,906 My mom pretty early on realized that, in a sense, I was her ticket out. 271 00:22:04,492 --> 00:22:07,995 Being an actress, she tried to teach me what she knew. 272 00:22:12,917 --> 00:22:17,380 I started going to dance class and taking guitar and piano lessons 273 00:22:17,505 --> 00:22:21,425 and acting classes and tried to find me an agent really quickly 274 00:22:21,551 --> 00:22:24,804 and started slowly going on auditions, 275 00:22:26,347 --> 00:22:29,392 but I just wasn't a good actress. 276 00:22:30,309 --> 00:22:35,356 A lot of people just talk about how intimidating the business could be 277 00:22:35,481 --> 00:22:39,777 for them at a young age, and I'm very grateful that I had 278 00:22:39,944 --> 00:22:43,197 the adversity that I had before I got to Hollywood 279 00:22:43,322 --> 00:22:46,909 because I was prepared for all the slick stuff 280 00:22:47,034 --> 00:22:49,034 people were trying to pull. 281 00:22:49,704 --> 00:22:54,750 I've had so many people at a young age try to play me as I were gullible. 282 00:22:55,251 --> 00:22:59,630 I was just like, I'm not the one. I'd survived the streets of Baltimore, 283 00:22:59,755 --> 00:23:02,425 so this was kind of a Disneyland. 284 00:23:08,264 --> 00:23:12,268 There was a belief in Hollywood that children were rubber. 285 00:23:12,810 --> 00:23:14,810 They were flexible. 286 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,567 We were flexible, but not willingly. 287 00:23:26,115 --> 00:23:29,035 It was hard work. I found that I was adaptable. 288 00:23:29,452 --> 00:23:32,580 I had the talent. That was my genius. 289 00:23:32,872 --> 00:23:34,749 People go, "She's a genius". 290 00:23:34,874 --> 00:23:37,918 Well, the only genius was I stayed on my feet. 291 00:23:40,087 --> 00:23:42,465 And my family kept eating. 292 00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:59,565 You start at age three. Seems very normal. I thought everybody worked. 293 00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:02,902 I didn't realize in the Depression that a lot of people weren't. 294 00:24:03,027 --> 00:24:05,905 But I just felt it was a normal kind of thing. 295 00:24:11,494 --> 00:24:13,494 What's going on around here ? 296 00:24:14,705 --> 00:24:18,250 Come here. I'll give you a free ride. You do it again, show this boy. 297 00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:22,004 My mother was smitten with show business. 298 00:24:23,047 --> 00:24:25,047 That's terrific. 299 00:24:25,675 --> 00:24:29,136 In the '50s, after the war, when television got started 300 00:24:29,261 --> 00:24:32,973 they'd just bring kids in and stick them around like plants. 301 00:24:33,099 --> 00:24:36,185 And now back to "Kids Are People Too". 302 00:24:37,311 --> 00:24:39,730 It must be kind of weird for you to watch TV in the afternoon 303 00:24:39,855 --> 00:24:44,151 where they're showing "Happy Days" and also "The Andy Griffith Show". 304 00:24:44,276 --> 00:24:46,529 In some spots, back to back. 305 00:24:46,946 --> 00:24:49,407 - Who are you ? - Opie. Opie Taylor. 306 00:24:49,657 --> 00:24:52,952 Does it bring back those memories of being that young ? 307 00:24:53,077 --> 00:24:56,831 Tremendous memories because the real fun of a situation like that 308 00:24:56,956 --> 00:24:59,875 are the relationships that you develop with the people. 309 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,712 And the things that were going on in between. 310 00:25:03,796 --> 00:25:06,882 The first thing Drew Barrymore ever says to me is, 311 00:25:07,007 --> 00:25:09,343 "How many movies have you been in ?" 312 00:25:11,137 --> 00:25:13,556 And I say, "Just one." 313 00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:18,269 She goes, "Oh, you poor thing. I've been in four." 314 00:25:19,729 --> 00:25:21,729 - How old was she ? - Six. 315 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,488 I understand that you have an alien in this house. Is that true? 316 00:25:31,907 --> 00:25:35,286 I have all the authority to take him, and I gotta tell ya, 317 00:25:35,411 --> 00:25:37,411 I'm gonna take him. 318 00:25:37,663 --> 00:25:39,663 You can't take him. 319 00:25:42,251 --> 00:25:44,061 I'm afraid I have to, son. 320 00:25:44,211 --> 00:25:46,756 You can't take him away ! He's mine ! 321 00:25:47,006 --> 00:25:50,551 It's not my choice. The president asked me to come here and get him. 322 00:25:50,676 --> 00:25:54,180 I don't care what the president said, he's my best friend. 323 00:25:54,305 --> 00:25:56,432 And you can't take him away ! 324 00:25:57,725 --> 00:25:59,725 Okay, kid, you got the job. 325 00:26:02,688 --> 00:26:04,415 E.T. came along. 326 00:26:04,565 --> 00:26:08,402 E.T. home phone. 327 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:16,660 It was intimidating on set because there were all these kids there. 328 00:26:18,078 --> 00:26:22,208 Suddenly, you're not like the kid coming in and saying your line. 329 00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:26,212 You're watching other kids do it, and you're watching how they work, 330 00:26:26,337 --> 00:26:30,132 and you say, "Why didn't I do it like that," 331 00:26:30,466 --> 00:26:32,927 or, "Is that how I'm supposed to do it?" 332 00:26:33,219 --> 00:26:37,598 Pretend there's a tear there, then wipe the tear away from E.T.'s face. 333 00:26:37,723 --> 00:26:42,061 And we'll play it that way. Okay ? Real softly and gently, and no rush. 334 00:26:42,937 --> 00:26:46,065 I felt like I had just robbed a bank. 335 00:26:49,235 --> 00:26:51,235 And I was gonna get caught. 336 00:26:51,946 --> 00:26:56,075 When I was I think 10, I was cast in "The Buddy System", 337 00:26:56,242 --> 00:26:58,242 a pretty big studio picture. 338 00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:03,541 Emily was a struggling mother, raising a kid who already knew too much. 339 00:27:03,666 --> 00:27:08,212 Roger Ebert hated it and hated me which I took super personally 340 00:27:08,337 --> 00:27:10,422 because I didn't know how not to. 341 00:27:10,548 --> 00:27:13,634 As soon as you hear this kid's first few wisecracks 342 00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:16,178 you think, let me out of this theater. 343 00:27:16,345 --> 00:27:18,848 I think I liked it even less than you did. 344 00:27:19,014 --> 00:27:20,224 No, you didn't. 345 00:27:20,349 --> 00:27:26,647 The thing that I think people forget, you're not just talking about an actor, 346 00:27:26,897 --> 00:27:31,610 you're talking about a kid who is giving up their childhood 347 00:27:31,735 --> 00:27:34,572 to be in this thing that you're reviewing. 348 00:27:34,989 --> 00:27:38,576 No individual could be this stupid. This is a very bad film. 349 00:27:38,701 --> 00:27:41,120 I think that just about covers "The Buddy System". 350 00:27:41,287 --> 00:27:44,164 But the next thing after that was "Stand By Me," 351 00:27:44,290 --> 00:27:46,709 and that kind of changed everything. 352 00:27:52,631 --> 00:27:57,344 When I was cast and all of us met for the very first time, 353 00:27:58,345 --> 00:28:01,974 Rob brought us up to Oregon two weeks before production 354 00:28:02,224 --> 00:28:04,476 and put us in a little drama school 355 00:28:05,811 --> 00:28:09,940 and took the four of us through some technique. 356 00:28:10,649 --> 00:28:13,444 What we were learning to do is get out of our own way, 357 00:28:13,569 --> 00:28:16,322 stop thinking about things and just be kids. 358 00:28:21,785 --> 00:28:25,539 And one of the reasons "Stand By Me" is such a successful film 359 00:28:25,664 --> 00:28:29,418 and one of the reasons it connects with people so honestly 360 00:28:30,002 --> 00:28:34,590 is that Rob cast four kids who very much were the kids we played. 361 00:28:38,135 --> 00:28:41,889 Mara Wilson was completely new. She had not done any theater, 362 00:28:42,014 --> 00:28:45,059 she had not done any film work, she'd done a couple of commercials. 363 00:28:45,184 --> 00:28:48,854 She was like taking a real person and putting her in front of a camera. 364 00:28:50,648 --> 00:28:53,817 I got called for an open call for "Mrs. Doubtfire." 365 00:28:53,943 --> 00:28:57,321 Your name is Mara. What a beautiful name. 366 00:28:57,488 --> 00:29:00,032 You know what my name is ? Ifigenia. 367 00:29:01,492 --> 00:29:03,869 You know what that means ? I don't. 368 00:29:05,204 --> 00:29:08,040 Everything kind of snowballed from there... 369 00:29:08,165 --> 00:29:12,753 Then I got cast on "Melrose Place" and then in "Miracle on 34th Street." 370 00:29:13,462 --> 00:29:14,814 That's a good one. 371 00:29:14,964 --> 00:29:16,966 And eventually, "Matilda". 372 00:29:20,594 --> 00:29:24,431 It all happened very, very quickly, from like five to seven. 373 00:29:24,682 --> 00:29:29,853 I didn't know how I felt about it all, but I was having fun, 374 00:29:29,979 --> 00:29:31,979 so I wanted to keep going. 375 00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:38,487 Don't be phony, be truthful. Be real. Don't be like, oh ! 376 00:29:38,821 --> 00:29:41,115 Be real. Act like this is real life. 377 00:29:41,991 --> 00:29:45,119 As funny as it is, I could act, but I couldn't lie. 378 00:29:45,285 --> 00:29:48,747 There was this separation of this is what play is, 379 00:29:48,872 --> 00:29:52,668 this is what lying is, and this is what acting is. 380 00:29:58,966 --> 00:30:01,552 I booked "Jessie" when I was 11. 381 00:30:01,927 --> 00:30:04,430 - Who wants a brownie treat ? - I do ! Lucas ! 382 00:30:05,889 --> 00:30:09,852 Four years we did a hundred and something episodes of the show. 383 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,990 Being on set when I was a kid because that's naturally who I am, 384 00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:26,368 I wasn't one of those kids who was causing trouble for anybody, 385 00:30:26,535 --> 00:30:30,205 I wanted to do it right, and I wanted people to be impressed with me. 386 00:30:30,831 --> 00:30:32,831 Hey, give it back ! 387 00:30:34,918 --> 00:30:36,896 Or keep her. 388 00:30:37,046 --> 00:30:39,965 No one was scared of me. That's the key, right ? 389 00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:43,886 If a child actor is 13 years old and the crew's scared of him, 390 00:30:44,011 --> 00:30:47,973 and they're like, "Oh, that's the star of the..." No, fuck that shit. 391 00:30:48,474 --> 00:30:52,186 These people were like, "Listen, don't do that, do do that." 392 00:30:52,311 --> 00:30:56,899 Respect these people, ask questions, and be nice, that's what you do. 393 00:30:57,441 --> 00:31:01,070 Because of that, I was so much better off. 394 00:31:01,695 --> 00:31:04,573 So I was just sort of lucky to be in that little bubble of like, 395 00:31:04,948 --> 00:31:07,451 everything's good, everything's fine. 396 00:31:07,618 --> 00:31:10,662 But a lot of other people didn't have that luxury. 397 00:31:12,790 --> 00:31:15,209 - Did you learn your lines ? - Oh, yeah. 398 00:31:15,626 --> 00:31:20,089 Did you know what action or how emotionally you're supposed to feel ? 399 00:31:22,257 --> 00:31:25,094 'Cause she's gonna work with you on it, so... 400 00:31:29,056 --> 00:31:32,226 Hi ! How are you ? Hi, sweetheart. Come on in. 401 00:31:33,644 --> 00:31:37,523 Hi, I'm Marnie. Nice to meet you. Come on in. 402 00:31:39,024 --> 00:31:43,112 So if you wouldn't mind coming back in an hour, that would be great. 403 00:31:43,487 --> 00:31:46,698 Anything everywhere, I just, I don't know. 404 00:31:47,157 --> 00:31:49,157 Maybe I don't belong here. 405 00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:53,997 Okay, let's stop for a second. I'm hearing the words too much. 406 00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:58,836 Do you know what I mean by that ? Like I can hear the writer's words. 407 00:31:59,211 --> 00:32:03,924 - And I want to be able to hear you. - Okay. 408 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:08,345 Do you like doing this stuff ? Do ya ? 409 00:32:09,179 --> 00:32:11,179 Then why ya yawnin' so much ? 410 00:32:12,099 --> 00:32:14,852 Did you not sleep very well last night ? 411 00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:18,230 - Not really. - No ? Is this interesting to you ? 412 00:32:19,731 --> 00:32:21,731 Sort of or... 413 00:32:22,734 --> 00:32:25,737 Okay, well, that's honest. I like your honesty. 414 00:32:26,155 --> 00:32:30,784 We're going to explore this. But if you don't fall in love with acting, 415 00:32:31,118 --> 00:32:36,290 then you need to talk to mom and say this is not my cup of tea. 416 00:32:36,832 --> 00:32:39,251 This is not something I love doin'. 417 00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:44,590 I've offered plenty of times... "Do you want to stop ? It'll be done." 418 00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:51,513 "No, no, no." And then it's like... He is passionate about what he does. 419 00:32:52,306 --> 00:32:56,977 I've given him the choice. I always am clear with him if anything, 420 00:32:57,811 --> 00:33:01,815 he didn't like anything, or there was something he would be upset about, 421 00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:04,359 he always has the choice to stop. 422 00:33:05,444 --> 00:33:09,072 You're a kid. You don't have to work. Right ? 423 00:33:10,115 --> 00:33:13,952 Do you have to pay your mortgage ? Do you have to pay your rent ? No. 424 00:33:14,077 --> 00:33:15,804 You get to be a kid. 425 00:33:15,954 --> 00:33:19,082 I have to pay my taxes. And understand taxes. 426 00:33:19,249 --> 00:33:22,211 All of this stuff you have to do when you're older 427 00:33:22,336 --> 00:33:25,505 that you don't have to do now. How cool is that ? 428 00:33:26,131 --> 00:33:31,845 If you want to do this, then we have to put in a lot of the work. 429 00:33:33,805 --> 00:33:37,893 Drama may be not my thing. Comedy is my thing, 430 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:41,980 but I'll still have to try. Try and try. You'll make it. 431 00:33:47,361 --> 00:33:50,364 As long as you're happy, I'm happy. Whatever. 432 00:33:54,451 --> 00:33:56,451 You good ? 433 00:33:58,914 --> 00:34:01,625 Sometimes I'll feel there were gaps in my childhood, 434 00:34:01,792 --> 00:34:04,127 like I never learned how to ride a bike. 435 00:34:04,253 --> 00:34:05,963 Or I remember going back to school and being like, 436 00:34:06,088 --> 00:34:09,549 "What is this kickball game that everybody's playing ?" 437 00:34:09,675 --> 00:34:14,554 I didn't do well in school because I wasn't used to setting my own schedule 438 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,642 because you don't have to develop a work ethic when everybody around you 439 00:34:18,767 --> 00:34:21,228 is telling you what to do, at what time, 440 00:34:21,353 --> 00:34:25,649 when you have people escorting you to hair and makeup, to the set, 441 00:34:25,816 --> 00:34:27,985 telling you they're ready for you. 442 00:34:28,485 --> 00:34:31,321 Yeah, you see here we go this way. 443 00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:36,159 It's gonna be hard for to set your own schedule to do your homework. 444 00:34:38,161 --> 00:34:40,914 I kind of miss only having a four-hour workday. 445 00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:45,460 You go to school for four hours a day, and then you work for the other four. 446 00:34:45,585 --> 00:34:47,585 So I kind of miss that. 447 00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:50,549 How do the kids in school treat you, Henry ? 448 00:34:50,841 --> 00:34:54,720 They... Most of them treat me all right. They treat me normal. 449 00:34:55,429 --> 00:35:02,019 But some, they tease me about E.T. and some other movies. 450 00:35:03,603 --> 00:35:07,399 The school thing was the biggest mix-up for me, 451 00:35:07,566 --> 00:35:12,863 and that was the hardest thing about working as a kid. 452 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,907 They called me Hollywood or E.T., 453 00:35:16,116 --> 00:35:19,369 but I had been designated as being that guy. 454 00:35:19,786 --> 00:35:23,957 So I was always gonna be that guy. I just didn't realize it at 13. 455 00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:27,836 I thought I cannot be that guy anymore and to just have friends 456 00:35:28,045 --> 00:35:31,673 and go to school and do normal things. 457 00:35:35,093 --> 00:35:37,804 I had to finish my sixth grade year on set. 458 00:35:38,847 --> 00:35:43,101 And seventh grade was the first year that I went into home schooling. 459 00:35:43,226 --> 00:35:48,148 And so that was the beginning of instead of 35 kids in my class... 460 00:35:48,482 --> 00:35:51,902 I have three. And they're all different ages than me. 461 00:35:52,402 --> 00:35:54,780 Like it's just not like... 462 00:35:55,864 --> 00:35:58,116 It's just not a normal experience. 463 00:36:04,206 --> 00:36:06,792 When Demi first started, I made it a point 464 00:36:06,958 --> 00:36:10,587 that she had to go to school and get a proper education. 465 00:36:12,005 --> 00:36:16,218 As of right now, this is something that I'm going to do for like ever. 466 00:36:17,427 --> 00:36:22,015 - Yes, I'm gonna go to college, but... - She can take a little break. 467 00:36:22,766 --> 00:36:24,766 Four year break. 468 00:36:25,852 --> 00:36:29,689 I really think that this is something that's gonna last, so... 469 00:36:30,357 --> 00:36:33,527 What are you gonna do this summer, if you're free ? 470 00:36:33,902 --> 00:36:37,531 I want to go to sleepaway camp because I've never been. 471 00:36:37,781 --> 00:36:40,784 I was gonna go the year I booked "School of Rock," 472 00:36:40,951 --> 00:36:44,538 but then that didn't happen because I was in "School of Rock". 473 00:36:44,704 --> 00:36:47,457 This might be her first free summer in a while. 474 00:36:47,874 --> 00:36:51,128 If I don't book anything, this might be my first summer 475 00:36:51,253 --> 00:36:53,253 where I'm not doing anything. 476 00:36:53,964 --> 00:36:58,468 It was tough. I was in an adult acting class when I was nine, 477 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:06,935 and so that started at like 7:00 and didn't end until 11:00 some days. 478 00:37:08,478 --> 00:37:12,941 I needed new acting headshot and the photographer at the end of the shoot 479 00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:18,613 had them put more makeup on me, and people freaked out over the pictures 480 00:37:18,738 --> 00:37:22,784 'cause I looked really grown up. And I always thought 481 00:37:22,909 --> 00:37:26,163 I looked like a monster when they were finished with me 482 00:37:26,288 --> 00:37:29,958 because it's the late '80s, it was like all that crazy makeup 483 00:37:30,083 --> 00:37:33,753 and photographers loved me. I was like this little Lolita. 484 00:37:33,962 --> 00:37:37,674 It was all just so risqué and so bizarre working with a kid. 485 00:37:37,799 --> 00:37:40,177 You'd never get away with it today. 486 00:37:42,262 --> 00:37:45,765 Photo shoots and stuff maybe it's more of a girl thing, 487 00:37:45,891 --> 00:37:51,813 but that stuff was much more traumatizing than filming for me. 488 00:37:52,898 --> 00:37:56,067 I didn't to be in dresses, I didn't want to be in heels. 489 00:37:56,193 --> 00:37:59,738 I was a tomboy. And that stuff was really forced onto me 490 00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:03,450 and onto a lot of girls, and we're starting to reject it now, 491 00:38:03,575 --> 00:38:08,538 but so many people have been pressured into staying in the closet 492 00:38:08,663 --> 00:38:11,291 and conforming to certain gender norms 493 00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:16,171 that are really prevalent in the film industry. 494 00:38:19,841 --> 00:38:23,094 How old were you when you were picked for this picture ? 495 00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:25,514 - I was 14. - Did you know the story ? 496 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,518 Yes. My mother had read the book, and we discussed the story, 497 00:38:29,643 --> 00:38:35,565 and she knew that Mr. Harris and Mr. Kubrick do very artful pictures 498 00:38:35,982 --> 00:38:38,610 and that they are not a quicky film company. 499 00:38:38,735 --> 00:38:41,029 She had quite a bit of faith in them. 500 00:38:42,155 --> 00:38:46,660 Jodie Foster loves her life. Although she has worked since she was three, 501 00:38:46,952 --> 00:38:50,747 she doesn't feel she has missed anything. On the contrary. 502 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,292 I missed all the bad things. I missed all the pimples 503 00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:58,463 and insecurities and, oh, what am I going to do, he doesn't like me. 504 00:38:58,588 --> 00:39:01,925 I missed all the bad things about growing up really. 505 00:39:04,052 --> 00:39:09,307 Do you see yourself as a 12-year-old girl, an actress, a model, 506 00:39:09,933 --> 00:39:11,933 an adult, a kid ? 507 00:39:12,644 --> 00:39:17,732 I see myself as a 12 year old kid that just has maybe more privileges 508 00:39:18,024 --> 00:39:21,528 and has experienced more than another 12-year-old kid. 509 00:39:26,074 --> 00:39:29,452 Leon, I think I'm kind of falling in love with you. 510 00:39:33,206 --> 00:39:35,206 It's the first time for me. 511 00:39:36,167 --> 00:39:40,839 I knew that movie was nothing without the casting of Matilda being perfect. 512 00:39:42,173 --> 00:39:46,386 I don't think Luc Besson fully understood how big a challenge 513 00:39:46,511 --> 00:39:49,014 it was gonna be to find parents who would let 514 00:39:49,139 --> 00:39:52,017 their 11-year-old daughter play this part. 515 00:39:53,393 --> 00:39:56,730 - Hi, Matilda. - Hi, Piggy. 516 00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:00,859 - How are you doin' ? - I've seen better days. 517 00:40:00,984 --> 00:40:02,984 But I've seen worse also. 518 00:40:04,613 --> 00:40:08,199 - Speak up, I can't hear you. - It's a belly button ring. 519 00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:12,412 How else can I say it ? I don't speak no other languages. 520 00:40:12,621 --> 00:40:17,000 And you know what that is ? That is a tongue ring. 521 00:40:18,043 --> 00:40:22,464 It's that dichotomy with art of... Teenagers do have a sexuality. 522 00:40:23,465 --> 00:40:27,260 And there's a part of me that believes we should explore that 523 00:40:27,385 --> 00:40:32,015 in a way that makes them feel less crazy and more in tune with themselves. 524 00:40:32,307 --> 00:40:34,726 Sometimes if it's done right, it can be 525 00:40:34,893 --> 00:40:39,439 a really beautiful exploration of innocence and coming of age. 526 00:40:40,649 --> 00:40:44,653 You need them to be sexual, but you also need them to not be sexual. 527 00:40:45,487 --> 00:40:49,532 You need to push the boundaries while not pushing any boundaries. 528 00:40:49,658 --> 00:40:52,619 And you're navigating this super adult world, 529 00:40:52,744 --> 00:40:55,246 which is just being dangled in front of your face 530 00:40:55,372 --> 00:41:00,210 while being told to stay a kid. That option is gone already. 531 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,840 Kids talk about sex all the time, but I still think it's kind of gross. 532 00:41:06,758 --> 00:41:10,428 I knew about my sexuality when I was about 12. 533 00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:17,727 I'm bisexual. And that was really interesting to navigate as well. 534 00:41:18,895 --> 00:41:22,565 When I started doing better in the industry, yeah, 535 00:41:22,732 --> 00:41:26,695 and I sort of prepubescent and you're put in these situations, 536 00:41:27,195 --> 00:41:31,241 a lot of them are your first experiences, and they're on camera. 537 00:41:33,243 --> 00:41:36,621 You're put into an environment with a lot of adults, 538 00:41:36,746 --> 00:41:40,166 you end up becoming very friendly with a lot of adults, 539 00:41:40,291 --> 00:41:47,090 and your mom can't always be there. Especially in your teenage years 540 00:41:47,757 --> 00:41:52,595 where you're pushing your boundaries, am I a girl, am I a woman yet, 541 00:41:52,762 --> 00:41:57,142 I want to be a woman, but like my mom won't let me kind of thing. 542 00:41:57,267 --> 00:42:02,063 I got myself into some messes with guys for sure, older guys. 543 00:42:03,022 --> 00:42:06,192 When I think now what were they doing with me, 544 00:42:06,317 --> 00:42:09,654 I'm like, geez, what schmucks and what creeps ! 545 00:42:09,821 --> 00:42:14,909 But at the time, I just thought, because I'm so special and mature. 546 00:42:15,618 --> 00:42:20,081 I guess I was ! I was like this magical little creature at the time. 547 00:42:21,166 --> 00:42:25,712 It just saddens me that people would want to take advantage of that. 548 00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:55,490 Thank you for signing. 549 00:42:56,868 --> 00:42:58,868 Thank you so much. 550 00:43:04,918 --> 00:43:07,712 After E.T. and two weeks in the theater, 551 00:43:07,879 --> 00:43:10,757 it was kind of a sensation for a few months. 552 00:43:10,882 --> 00:43:14,803 E.T. is a phenomenon, the biggest thing ever to hit the cinema. 553 00:43:14,928 --> 00:43:17,305 That seemed like forever as a kid. 554 00:43:18,348 --> 00:43:21,267 I was in San Antonio, Texas, and people were like, 555 00:43:21,392 --> 00:43:27,065 "Oh my God, it's the kid from E.T." I wasn't set up for that at 10 or 11. 556 00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:37,116 The best way I can describe it is for a long time, to me, 557 00:43:37,242 --> 00:43:41,579 being recognized felt like the way it does when you're in a restaurant 558 00:43:41,704 --> 00:43:44,165 and they sing to you on your birthday. 559 00:43:44,290 --> 00:43:48,753 "Oh God, this is nice, but I don't feel comfortable with this" 560 00:43:48,878 --> 00:43:52,298 "in front of everybody and everybody's gonna know..." 561 00:43:53,132 --> 00:43:56,302 That's kind of how I felt about being recognized. 562 00:43:57,262 --> 00:44:01,933 My experience switched. I stopped being a kid who was an actor 563 00:44:02,141 --> 00:44:06,271 and I became a child star and that fundamentally changed my life. 564 00:44:09,941 --> 00:44:13,987 I was all of a sudden getting letters from people from all over the country. 565 00:44:14,112 --> 00:44:17,198 Those of you who write hate letters, please spell correctly. 566 00:44:17,323 --> 00:44:20,410 I was recognized when I went places for my work. 567 00:44:20,535 --> 00:44:24,747 People wanted me to talk about stuff that I knew nothing about. 568 00:44:28,585 --> 00:44:32,630 I turned into a teen magazine teeny bopper idol kid. 569 00:44:35,008 --> 00:44:38,136 I hated all of that stuff. I didn't like it at all. 570 00:44:38,303 --> 00:44:42,682 It was way outside of my comfort zone, it was not what I wanted to do. 571 00:44:43,266 --> 00:44:45,602 Am I famous ? I don't think, am I famous ? 572 00:44:45,727 --> 00:44:49,272 It created this reality for me where I had to play the role 573 00:44:49,397 --> 00:44:51,399 of the young celebrity. 574 00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:54,861 The adults in my life who should have been protecting me 575 00:44:55,028 --> 00:44:59,449 were like, "This is the dream" and kept pushing me into these places 576 00:44:59,574 --> 00:45:02,827 where I didn't feel safe and I felt really afraid. 577 00:45:06,748 --> 00:45:10,335 You shouldn't have to deal with all the responsibilities 578 00:45:10,460 --> 00:45:13,546 and all of the eyeballs when you're that young. 579 00:45:14,923 --> 00:45:18,009 Everybody has an idea of what they want you to be, 580 00:45:18,134 --> 00:45:22,180 and at that age, you don't even know what the hell you want to be. 581 00:45:28,227 --> 00:45:32,357 It's fucked up to think about your entire adolescent life 582 00:45:32,482 --> 00:45:35,193 is documented for the entire world to see. 583 00:45:35,777 --> 00:45:38,738 That's when you go through your awkward phase, 584 00:45:38,863 --> 00:45:42,367 that's when you go through what am I, I don't know what I want 585 00:45:42,492 --> 00:45:45,787 and everyone is watching you, everyone has something to say, 586 00:45:45,912 --> 00:45:49,165 everyone has an opinion about what you should be doing. 587 00:45:49,290 --> 00:45:52,794 People would not tell the truth, just say whatever they want, 588 00:45:52,919 --> 00:45:55,129 and they're believed by followers. 589 00:45:55,254 --> 00:45:59,467 When you get a like on social media, you get a little hit in your brain. 590 00:45:59,592 --> 00:46:03,638 And it becomes this self-perpetuating, self-reinforcing thing. 591 00:46:06,933 --> 00:46:11,437 You're blogging for the YouTube channel. It's like a family vacation. 592 00:46:12,271 --> 00:46:14,732 But it's not a vacation because we're working. 593 00:46:14,857 --> 00:46:18,486 Just dealing with the pressures of social media alone... 594 00:46:19,028 --> 00:46:23,241 If I had to cultivate my career as a young person under the spotlight 595 00:46:23,533 --> 00:46:27,161 and the way as young people have to cultivate their career today, 596 00:46:27,286 --> 00:46:32,917 I don't know who or what I would have become, honestly. 597 00:46:43,761 --> 00:46:46,055 We're doing the best we can do on the set, 598 00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:50,601 but we also have to do it in public. And we have to live in public. 599 00:46:51,185 --> 00:46:55,189 To get attention from people in public. And one day, it's gone. 600 00:46:56,315 --> 00:46:59,402 And you don't know what to do. That's how you end up 601 00:46:59,527 --> 00:47:03,031 on a shitty reality show because you're like, pay attention to me, 602 00:47:03,156 --> 00:47:05,950 'cause it's the only way I know how to exist. 603 00:47:06,117 --> 00:47:08,117 Can I get my face painted ? 604 00:47:08,327 --> 00:47:11,456 How about we wait 'til the line's a little shorter ? 605 00:47:11,789 --> 00:47:13,789 We are professionals. 606 00:47:16,586 --> 00:47:20,089 We are probably a little more mature than the average kid. 607 00:47:20,214 --> 00:47:22,759 Socially, we probably have more skills. 608 00:47:24,177 --> 00:47:26,929 But we still don't know jack shit about the world. 609 00:47:27,055 --> 00:47:29,724 I understand that you see me in a certain way, 610 00:47:29,849 --> 00:47:34,062 people put you on a pedestal, people think you're really smart 611 00:47:34,187 --> 00:47:38,983 but that's because you're a child actor. They don't actually know you. 612 00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:43,905 You might recognize Mara from... Barbara, can we swap over here ? 613 00:47:44,155 --> 00:47:47,200 Just swap moms. No, come in. Scootch over. 614 00:47:47,909 --> 00:47:51,245 You may recognize Mara from "Mrs. Doubtfire". 615 00:47:53,539 --> 00:47:56,876 It felt very out of control to have everybody know my name 616 00:47:57,001 --> 00:47:59,670 and I didn't feel like I could trust anybody. 617 00:47:59,796 --> 00:48:03,925 That's still a problem I have now. I don't know when people want me 618 00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:07,804 because they think I have connections or they like me 619 00:48:07,929 --> 00:48:10,973 because of an image that they have of me as a child. 620 00:48:11,099 --> 00:48:14,685 Evan, how did it feel to get nominated for a young star award ? 621 00:48:14,811 --> 00:48:17,563 It's wonderful. I was nominated last year, and I had such a fun time, 622 00:48:17,688 --> 00:48:20,441 so I'm really looking forward to going again. 623 00:48:20,566 --> 00:48:24,737 The better I did, the more I felt like who I was wasn't acceptable. 624 00:48:25,071 --> 00:48:28,074 I don't think that anybody did that on purpose, 625 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:32,745 but suddenly, I felt like I didn't belong to myself anymore. 626 00:48:33,037 --> 00:48:36,707 I was a commodity that needed to be monitored and groomed, 627 00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:40,711 and I had to look a certain way and present myself a certain way. 628 00:48:40,837 --> 00:48:44,006 Straighten your hand up. There you go. Excellent. 629 00:48:45,633 --> 00:48:48,636 My voice just kept getting quieter and quieter. 630 00:48:48,761 --> 00:48:52,140 You don't really know, do you want to be my friend 631 00:48:52,265 --> 00:48:55,643 because you want to be my friend, or because I'm on TV ? 632 00:48:56,936 --> 00:48:59,647 You got to figure that out for yourself. 633 00:49:00,106 --> 00:49:04,360 At 13, you don't have the social skills to sniff out a social climate 634 00:49:04,485 --> 00:49:07,780 or a person who's trying to use you. And I got used. 635 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,743 All of a sudden, all of my cousins who have either ignored me or tormented me 636 00:49:13,035 --> 00:49:17,373 are treating me like I'm a big deal. I knew that it wasn't because of me, 637 00:49:17,498 --> 00:49:21,377 it was because of the movie. I remember kind of resenting that. 638 00:49:21,627 --> 00:49:26,299 It would have been better to be like, "Yay, they finally care that I exist." 639 00:49:26,465 --> 00:49:29,969 But I remember feeling like this is all bullshit. 640 00:49:30,386 --> 00:49:33,389 This isn't about me, this is because I'm famous. 641 00:49:33,514 --> 00:49:38,144 And that was the beginning of not being able to trust anybody. 642 00:49:43,983 --> 00:49:49,822 Professionally, it made me the it kid that every casting director wanted 643 00:49:49,947 --> 00:49:52,825 to get a Henry Thomas type for the next role. 644 00:49:53,784 --> 00:49:55,470 Help, police, murder. 645 00:49:55,620 --> 00:49:59,165 I remember I was getting scripts with straight offers 646 00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:03,252 and we had to listen to an agent. It was just a strange time. 647 00:50:04,879 --> 00:50:08,883 And I also felt like I really didn't know what I was doing still, 648 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:13,638 but now everybody was acting like I did know everything 649 00:50:13,763 --> 00:50:15,763 about what I was doing. 650 00:50:20,061 --> 00:50:24,482 It's a funny dance when you're a kid because it hits you all at once. 651 00:50:24,732 --> 00:50:28,611 Emotions for me as a kid were so overwhelming and palpable. 652 00:50:29,111 --> 00:50:33,115 That sense of pressure, of you have to perform now. 653 00:50:35,826 --> 00:50:38,996 Hey, Ricey. What's the matter ? Can't sit straight ? 654 00:50:41,582 --> 00:50:44,585 Hey, Ricey, what's the matter ? Can't you str... 655 00:50:50,508 --> 00:50:53,386 Child stars never earned any money at all. 656 00:50:53,511 --> 00:50:56,764 It was just considered taking candy from a baby. 657 00:50:57,348 --> 00:51:02,103 So at 10, I retired, having made from my family between films and vaudeville 658 00:51:02,228 --> 00:51:07,108 two million that I'm sure of and another million that I'm not quite certain of. 659 00:51:08,317 --> 00:51:11,404 Jackie Coogan was a victim of being exploited. 660 00:51:11,988 --> 00:51:16,367 His family exploited him terrifically. He endorsed everything. 661 00:51:18,452 --> 00:51:24,208 I had enumerable outside interests, endorsements 662 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,795 of product and food and clothing. 663 00:51:29,213 --> 00:51:32,967 So I was earning about a million dollars a year, all told. 664 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,806 Coogan had success as a child star and he ran a full course. 665 00:51:40,975 --> 00:51:44,270 But he was destitute and he died broke. 666 00:51:50,026 --> 00:51:52,778 I had money, but not the money I should have had. 667 00:51:52,903 --> 00:51:56,699 My dad should have told us that these people were ripping off his clients, 668 00:51:56,824 --> 00:52:00,411 my dad didn't tell us for three years and he got most of my stuff too. 669 00:52:00,536 --> 00:52:05,333 When they comin' to get you, they don't come by themselves, 670 00:52:05,458 --> 00:52:08,127 they come in a little minivan full of people. 671 00:52:08,252 --> 00:52:11,172 And everyone's doing something different, working a different angle, 672 00:52:11,297 --> 00:52:15,092 and all to get you out of your money in your pocket. That's what it's all about. 673 00:52:15,217 --> 00:52:18,929 The money that I earn from movies goes into a savings account. 674 00:52:19,055 --> 00:52:20,990 But I get my allowance. 675 00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:25,269 But what people don't realize, no matter how little or how much money 676 00:52:25,436 --> 00:52:30,524 that the child makes, that it is the child's money, it's not our money. 677 00:52:32,526 --> 00:52:38,199 I think I felt an enormous pressure on myself like to stay at home 678 00:52:38,324 --> 00:52:43,954 and make that peaceful and have a degree of normalcy. 679 00:52:46,624 --> 00:52:50,711 But there was an ongoing existential "now what" with the family, 680 00:52:50,878 --> 00:52:54,840 my mom was there with me all the time, my dad was still working, 681 00:52:54,965 --> 00:53:00,513 and she basically came with me for the next four years, five years, 682 00:53:00,638 --> 00:53:04,266 on all of my films until I was 17. 683 00:53:05,893 --> 00:53:11,273 I think she resented me for that for years afterwards. 684 00:53:12,108 --> 00:53:15,236 But when you're a kid you don't really think about 685 00:53:15,361 --> 00:53:20,366 what everybody else has to do to accommodate your film career. 686 00:53:21,367 --> 00:53:24,537 We try to keep him halfway normal. 687 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080 He just wants to be regular. 688 00:53:28,749 --> 00:53:33,003 She was coming at it from a place of ignorance, 689 00:53:34,463 --> 00:53:38,342 of I don't know this world and it's scary to me 690 00:53:39,468 --> 00:53:45,182 and I feel like people are trying to rip us off and possibly hurt us. 691 00:53:45,766 --> 00:53:52,440 So that was her front and her attitude and I don't think 692 00:53:52,606 --> 00:53:56,652 it necessarily did me a lot of favors career wise 693 00:53:56,944 --> 00:54:00,656 because I think she was labeled as difficult to work with 694 00:54:00,781 --> 00:54:04,910 and consequently I was labeled as difficult to work with. 695 00:54:06,412 --> 00:54:08,412 Wait, what ? 696 00:54:09,623 --> 00:54:11,623 A callback ! 697 00:54:13,461 --> 00:54:15,546 - But when is it ? - Next week. 698 00:54:16,422 --> 00:54:19,758 You have to prepare this sides with a southern accent 699 00:54:19,884 --> 00:54:26,724 and if the music director asks, please be prepared to rift on the songs. 700 00:54:29,768 --> 00:54:33,063 Everything revolves around her, so I don't work 701 00:54:33,189 --> 00:54:36,442 because I follow her around all day and bring her to auditions, 702 00:54:36,567 --> 00:54:39,236 she needs to be on set and I have to be there, 703 00:54:39,361 --> 00:54:44,533 so we've all sacrificed a lot so she could do what she loves. 704 00:54:45,659 --> 00:54:47,661 I hope she knows that. 705 00:54:49,497 --> 00:54:51,497 Morning, Dad. 706 00:54:53,459 --> 00:54:57,796 People have to sacrifice for you, which I didn't understand as a kid, 707 00:54:57,963 --> 00:55:01,967 but looking back on it now, I go, "Wow, my dad quit his job." 708 00:55:02,551 --> 00:55:06,138 My son is irritated with me 'cause I'm documenting this. 709 00:55:06,263 --> 00:55:09,141 And I'm documenting this because I can. 710 00:55:09,558 --> 00:55:13,437 My mom was letting me skip my last period in school 711 00:55:13,604 --> 00:55:16,982 so I could go to some stupid audition that I didn't book 712 00:55:17,149 --> 00:55:21,195 and when it really hit home for me was when my sister 713 00:55:21,946 --> 00:55:26,200 would come home from school and talk about how her classmates 714 00:55:26,325 --> 00:55:30,454 would just naturally associate her with me 715 00:55:30,704 --> 00:55:34,291 and that's what she was. I hated that and that killed me. 716 00:55:35,543 --> 00:55:39,964 I didn't want her to feel she was in my shadow or that she was lesser than. 717 00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:43,884 So there are things that you think back on and you're like that changed 718 00:55:44,009 --> 00:55:50,432 the entire fabric of my family and the way that we work as a unit. 719 00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:56,063 Especially with my mother, she clinged, she clung to me 720 00:55:56,188 --> 00:56:00,025 during that time, 'cause she wanted to be very protective. 721 00:56:00,442 --> 00:56:04,488 I can't help but think that I'm sure people in my family felt like 722 00:56:05,155 --> 00:56:09,285 she started disappearing with me when my career started taking off. 723 00:56:10,578 --> 00:56:14,873 And I think we all felt it. And I felt a lot of guilt for it 724 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:20,504 that I never really vocalized or knew how to process. 725 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:27,928 Then very quickly, whatever struggles I was going through, 726 00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,310 I couldn't talk about 'cause I was where 727 00:56:34,768 --> 00:56:39,315 a lot of people in my family wanted to be in... 728 00:56:40,691 --> 00:56:45,070 I think I silenced my voice pretty quick 729 00:56:45,613 --> 00:56:48,782 and I felt like I can't complain about anything. 730 00:56:51,076 --> 00:56:54,038 Mara clearly has a grip on playing a dramatic role, 731 00:56:54,163 --> 00:56:56,749 but nothing could have prepared her for what happened 732 00:56:56,874 --> 00:57:00,252 in the middle of our ET interview when she lost a tooth. 733 00:57:02,421 --> 00:57:04,423 Yes. Oh no. 734 00:57:10,554 --> 00:57:14,642 My mother died during the post production process of "Matilda". 735 00:57:14,767 --> 00:57:18,979 I felt lost and unmoored without her and just kept acting in movies 736 00:57:19,104 --> 00:57:21,982 because it felt like a constant in my life. 737 00:57:22,441 --> 00:57:26,403 The entertainment industry is gonna make a decision about me. 738 00:57:26,820 --> 00:57:31,742 Am I a serious actor who's going to follow a track 739 00:57:31,909 --> 00:57:35,287 that leads to serious work and serious roles ? 740 00:57:36,372 --> 00:57:40,084 Am I an accident that got lucky in one movie ? 741 00:57:43,379 --> 00:57:46,090 My parents put me in a shitty horror movie. 742 00:57:46,215 --> 00:57:48,717 But here nothing is what it seems. 743 00:57:50,803 --> 00:57:53,514 Because they threw a bunch of money at us. 744 00:57:54,056 --> 00:57:57,476 And dangled a trip to Rome for the family. 745 00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:05,442 Wil Wheaton of "Stand By Me" must stand alone against "The Curse". 746 00:58:06,527 --> 00:58:10,781 My mother was being my manager in my life circumstance, 747 00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:15,869 this was all about her needs and not about what was best for me. 748 00:58:17,037 --> 00:58:20,874 I went and worked in a phenomenally abusive environment. 749 00:58:20,999 --> 00:58:24,294 And had a terrible experience. It really hurt my film career. 750 00:58:24,503 --> 00:58:27,131 Our next movie is "Return to the Blue Lagoon". 751 00:58:27,256 --> 00:58:29,967 One of the most ridiculous movies I have ever seen 752 00:58:30,134 --> 00:58:32,678 in a long career of many ridiculous movies. 753 00:58:33,053 --> 00:58:38,350 I felt so horrible after reading bad review after bad review. 754 00:58:39,476 --> 00:58:42,563 It screws you up. You're just becoming a teenager 755 00:58:42,771 --> 00:58:48,152 and this is your first understanding of where your place is in the world, 756 00:58:48,444 --> 00:58:53,407 how people view you, and that put a bad taste in my mouth for acting 757 00:58:53,615 --> 00:58:57,953 and that really convinced me that this wasn't what I was meant to do. 758 00:58:58,412 --> 00:59:03,041 My mother was an amazing actress, but I needed to find myself. 759 00:59:06,795 --> 00:59:09,423 You're in this environment of a circus. 760 00:59:11,508 --> 00:59:16,346 Where everybody understands and everybody's there to accommodate you 761 00:59:17,598 --> 00:59:22,394 because you're all in the same world, you're working together to do something. 762 00:59:23,395 --> 00:59:26,940 Then you leave that and you go back to, in my case, 763 00:59:27,107 --> 00:59:31,945 rural Texas where mostly no one has been on a film set 764 00:59:32,988 --> 00:59:38,952 and you start to get this feeling like, I don't belong here, 765 00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:42,206 I belong there in the circus world. 766 00:59:42,831 --> 00:59:47,544 So everything that fails here I'm just gonna take this back to the circus 767 00:59:48,045 --> 00:59:50,964 and the circus people, they'll be cool to me. 768 00:59:53,425 --> 00:59:56,595 Let's all hug and pretend like we like each other. 769 00:59:58,514 --> 01:00:02,768 My mom really felt like she was doing the right thing most of the time. 770 01:00:04,603 --> 01:00:08,649 But I think where everyone failed, moms, managers, lawyers, 771 01:00:09,149 --> 01:00:11,568 no one ever asked me how I was doing. 772 01:00:13,612 --> 01:00:18,450 My emotional state was equated with how well I was doing. 773 01:00:20,285 --> 01:00:24,665 The better I did in my career, the more they just assumed I was fine. 774 01:00:25,916 --> 01:00:29,962 No one really checked in, especially as things began to ramp up, 775 01:00:30,128 --> 01:00:33,632 and the fame came in, no one asked how are you... 776 01:00:36,927 --> 01:00:38,927 Just a simple question. 777 01:00:41,849 --> 01:00:43,849 The amount of pressure 778 01:00:44,059 --> 01:00:47,688 that young entertainers have to have it all together 779 01:00:47,896 --> 01:00:51,859 and to not be allowed to actually be young. 780 01:00:53,819 --> 01:00:56,488 The kind of detriment that I see that it has 781 01:00:56,613 --> 01:01:00,450 on the psychology of young adults, it's a lot of pressure. 782 01:01:03,537 --> 01:01:07,958 One thing that Jaden and Willow... They don't have to figure it all out. 783 01:01:08,125 --> 01:01:11,587 There's some pitfalls that we can see and go, "Not that." 784 01:01:11,712 --> 01:01:13,755 We really are proud of Willow. 785 01:01:13,881 --> 01:01:19,678 Money, fame, glamour, I have seen people lose sight of that. 786 01:01:21,263 --> 01:01:23,724 Even Will and I have slipped into that. 787 01:01:24,016 --> 01:01:28,270 We had to catch ourselves and Willow's like, "I'm not doing 'Whip My Hair'". 788 01:01:31,064 --> 01:01:35,569 After "Whip My Hair" thing I was plunged into this like black hole. 789 01:01:36,653 --> 01:01:39,323 - And I was like cutting myself. - What ? 790 01:01:40,449 --> 01:01:44,077 I've seen a lot of beautiful young people and children, 791 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,080 I've seen them... 792 01:01:49,917 --> 01:01:53,503 I've seen them just be destroyed. 793 01:01:58,675 --> 01:02:02,596 My parents were always telling me you have to be happy and smiley 794 01:02:02,763 --> 01:02:07,059 and you have to be nice to your fans and it could be hard for me. 795 01:02:07,225 --> 01:02:11,438 I struggled with it because I just wanted to hang out with my friends, 796 01:02:11,563 --> 01:02:14,608 I didn't really want to be signing autographs. 797 01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:20,405 I had some kind of imposter syndrome. But I started picking up on things 798 01:02:20,781 --> 01:02:24,826 and it happened from a young age, I noticed like much older men, 799 01:02:24,952 --> 01:02:29,331 being interested in me and knowing my name, which felt wrong to me. 800 01:02:30,082 --> 01:02:33,126 I remember Googling my own name, which was a terrible thing, 801 01:02:33,418 --> 01:02:37,172 and I saw people talking about Photoshop child porn for me. 802 01:02:38,590 --> 01:02:41,718 It was hard for me sometimes to talk to my family about this 803 01:02:41,843 --> 01:02:44,721 because I felt like I was a burden on them. 804 01:02:45,138 --> 01:02:48,433 My parents tried to protect me from these dangers, 805 01:02:48,558 --> 01:02:52,479 but I could feel them, and I knew that there were times 806 01:02:52,604 --> 01:02:55,899 when they just weren't going to be able to protect me. 807 01:02:56,233 --> 01:02:58,652 Maybe it would be best if you didn't even mention 808 01:02:58,777 --> 01:03:02,572 that I gave you all this ice cream before dinner. 809 01:03:03,657 --> 01:03:06,451 Why don't we just make it our little secret ? 810 01:03:07,411 --> 01:03:09,579 Mr. Horton, you're sneaky. 811 01:03:10,956 --> 01:03:13,625 The thing about that issue when you're young 812 01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:16,878 is you're not able to talk about. That's the biggest problem. 813 01:03:17,045 --> 01:03:20,507 You feel ashamed of yourself so then you keep it a secret. 814 01:03:20,632 --> 01:03:26,096 I was 12 years old and my publicist basically talked me into doing things 815 01:03:26,221 --> 01:03:29,599 that I didn't really want to do. I hadn't had sex before 816 01:03:29,725 --> 01:03:33,020 and he convinced me that this was the right thing to do 817 01:03:33,145 --> 01:03:37,816 and told me like don't tell your parents, and he bought me a bicycle. 818 01:03:38,567 --> 01:03:42,029 He always kept doing things for me that I didn't understand. 819 01:03:42,154 --> 01:03:46,283 He started at 11. He seduced me and he started at 11 years old. 820 01:03:47,451 --> 01:03:51,872 When I told my mom about it, she could look in my eyes and know. 821 01:03:52,289 --> 01:03:55,250 My dad took his side, and that was the bad thing. 822 01:03:55,375 --> 01:03:58,920 When my dad took his side, that crushed me, it ruined me 823 01:03:59,337 --> 01:04:02,382 because then I was on a self-destruction course. 824 01:04:02,507 --> 01:04:06,678 To destroy myself just to hurt him. A lot of parents need to see 825 01:04:06,845 --> 01:04:10,140 that these people are right there ready to trick you. 826 01:04:11,475 --> 01:04:14,603 Trick you away from your kid and that's a bad thing. 827 01:04:14,895 --> 01:04:19,357 In my experience, I know a lot of kids that grew up in the industry 828 01:04:19,524 --> 01:04:25,655 and what surprised me was finding out that pretty much all of the young men 829 01:04:27,365 --> 01:04:29,618 were abused in some way, sexually. 830 01:04:32,662 --> 01:04:39,377 I was at the Golden Globes, I watched a pedophile win, I knew 831 01:04:39,628 --> 01:04:43,256 that he's molested boys in the industry. 832 01:04:43,965 --> 01:04:47,928 And I watched him get up and accept an award and I walked out 833 01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:52,891 and just started sobbing and a bunch of people ran after me and they said, 834 01:04:53,183 --> 01:04:56,895 "What's wrong ?" "I don't know if I can do this anymore." 835 01:04:57,187 --> 01:05:01,358 "I can't keep watching this happen. I don't know how to handle this." 836 01:05:01,483 --> 01:05:02,984 "This has to stop." 837 01:05:03,110 --> 01:05:05,529 After years of claiming sexual abuse, 838 01:05:05,654 --> 01:05:08,949 Corey Feldman is finally being heard by the LAPD. 839 01:05:09,241 --> 01:05:13,829 The number one problem in Hollywood always will be pedophilia. 840 01:05:14,287 --> 01:05:17,332 This morning, Kevin Spacey in a drama of his own. 841 01:05:17,457 --> 01:05:21,878 The star is under fire following allegations of sexual misconduct. 842 01:05:22,212 --> 01:05:25,674 At least 6 men accused Bryan Singer of sexual misconduct 843 01:05:25,799 --> 01:05:27,592 spanning two decades. 844 01:05:27,717 --> 01:05:31,680 Any industry that has that much power and is that competitive... 845 01:05:31,847 --> 01:05:35,642 After a while it starts to become who can take the most abuse. 846 01:05:35,767 --> 01:05:38,562 Somebody's waiting in line to take your place 847 01:05:38,687 --> 01:05:43,942 so you just start to allow yourself to be abused in some form or another. 848 01:05:45,610 --> 01:05:49,823 Every actor is guilty of that. They're lying if they say they're not 849 01:05:49,948 --> 01:05:54,703 because it's just part of the deal and, unfortunately, until things change 850 01:05:54,828 --> 01:05:58,373 there's always gonna be somebody willing to take abuse. 851 01:05:58,665 --> 01:06:00,225 And stay quiet. 852 01:06:00,375 --> 01:06:02,375 It happened to me too. 853 01:06:03,837 --> 01:06:08,258 Women are coming out and talking about things that they've experienced 854 01:06:08,383 --> 01:06:12,220 so that young women and young boys who are coming up in the game 855 01:06:12,387 --> 01:06:15,599 can have more awareness that it's not just a saying, 856 01:06:15,724 --> 01:06:18,226 it is actually a reality. 857 01:06:22,731 --> 01:06:26,902 I put a gizmo watch on him when I go, so he can call me. 858 01:06:27,027 --> 01:06:31,573 If anything happens, you hit one button, I'm in that door. 859 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,580 I'm realistic of what really goes on. Or can go on. 860 01:06:38,914 --> 01:06:42,417 I didn't think that about children back then. 861 01:06:42,542 --> 01:06:48,298 Now, the Me too thing that I had some instances like that 862 01:06:48,423 --> 01:06:50,926 that I had to say, "Absolutely not." 863 01:06:55,263 --> 01:07:01,770 I'm grateful that Willow may not have to come up against that as well 864 01:07:01,895 --> 01:07:05,273 because people are talking... 865 01:07:19,037 --> 01:07:21,456 Shining Time ? What does that mean ? 866 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:25,750 Do you want me to get off here ? 867 01:07:27,379 --> 01:07:30,006 I had been burned out on acting for a while, 868 01:07:30,173 --> 01:07:34,219 but Hollywood wasn't really interested in me anymore either 869 01:07:34,511 --> 01:07:37,722 because I was pubescent and deeply insecure, 870 01:07:37,931 --> 01:07:41,476 and I was not a cute teenager. I'd been a cute kid 871 01:07:41,601 --> 01:07:45,438 and I hadn't even realized that. I didn't like being told that, 872 01:07:45,563 --> 01:07:47,607 I thought it was condescending. 873 01:07:47,732 --> 01:07:51,695 I would self-sabotage in auditions, I didn't want to go. 874 01:07:51,820 --> 01:07:54,656 I felt so desperately insecure. I would look at the other girls, 875 01:07:54,781 --> 01:07:57,742 which was something that I'd never done before. 876 01:07:58,702 --> 01:08:05,458 I'd never felt particularly great at auditions, but now I was 16 877 01:08:06,876 --> 01:08:10,297 and I was going into rooms where they were expecting 878 01:08:10,797 --> 01:08:13,633 an 11 year old boy to walk through sometimes. 879 01:08:14,259 --> 01:08:18,930 I remember being at several meetings 880 01:08:19,139 --> 01:08:21,599 and sitting in the green room waiting, 881 01:08:22,809 --> 01:08:26,980 and seeing a producer walk out 882 01:08:28,523 --> 01:08:32,068 and try to casually take a look 883 01:08:32,777 --> 01:08:36,364 and go back and then I'd see another producer come out... 884 01:08:37,365 --> 01:08:41,953 And then it'd be five minutes of silence and then a receptionist 885 01:08:42,245 --> 01:08:48,209 would come and say, "I'm sorry, they're not gonna see you today." 886 01:08:49,794 --> 01:08:52,422 And I realized quickly, 887 01:08:55,050 --> 01:09:00,305 they're not looking for teenage me, they were looking for E.T. me. 888 01:09:02,349 --> 01:09:05,894 It's almost as though you had ceased to be alive. 889 01:09:06,269 --> 01:09:09,647 I had the feeling that I was a senior citizen at 15. 890 01:09:10,357 --> 01:09:13,735 And it happened to so many of the children. 891 01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:18,281 They were adorable, they were wanted, loved one day 892 01:09:19,032 --> 01:09:24,954 and almost the very next day, when they were becoming full human beings, 893 01:09:25,622 --> 01:09:28,124 they were told, you are finished. 894 01:09:28,708 --> 01:09:31,336 Congratulations, "Jessie" is nominated. 895 01:09:31,503 --> 01:09:35,590 - You just wrapped up. How was that ? - It was really sad. 896 01:09:36,341 --> 01:09:38,510 It was really hard saying goodbye, 897 01:09:38,635 --> 01:09:42,597 but we're all moving on to bigger and better things, hopefully. 898 01:09:42,764 --> 01:09:45,767 It should be good for all of us, but it's really sad 899 01:09:45,892 --> 01:09:48,186 because we all grew up on that stage. 900 01:09:48,311 --> 01:09:52,273 I started to question everything. When people would go, 901 01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:55,902 "Are you gonna go to college ?" I was like, Oh, shit ! 902 01:09:57,070 --> 01:09:59,572 No, I don't know, should I ? 903 01:10:00,031 --> 01:10:04,911 I'm confused. But that's society's plan. 904 01:10:06,788 --> 01:10:10,333 My life was do two jobs at once. School and work. 905 01:10:12,168 --> 01:10:16,297 And now college ? I don't know. Why would I, I've made money. 906 01:10:16,506 --> 01:10:19,968 But that would be good for me, I don't know anything about money. 907 01:10:20,135 --> 01:10:22,135 It's just a spiral of... 908 01:10:23,388 --> 01:10:30,019 What is it that I need to do to prepare myself for the real world 909 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,565 because I wasn't living in it. This is not real. 910 01:10:35,567 --> 01:10:38,486 I really got turned off to the business. 911 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:44,242 When I was 16, A, I'd moved out of my house. I was emancipated. 912 01:10:44,617 --> 01:10:47,871 My mom emancipated me so I could work adult hours. 913 01:10:48,663 --> 01:10:52,584 You can't say anything about what I do. I have my own money. 914 01:10:53,001 --> 01:10:55,920 I'm gonna move out. I went and got married. 915 01:10:56,504 --> 01:11:00,091 I like full on just kind of went crazy. 916 01:11:00,884 --> 01:11:04,846 You're in kind of a tough time. You don't have a place to stay. 917 01:11:05,263 --> 01:11:07,474 - No. - Where's all your stuff ? 918 01:11:07,932 --> 01:11:11,311 - It's at JFK. In storage. - Really ? 919 01:11:11,519 --> 01:11:15,482 - Yeah, I've got about 15 boxes. - What's in the boxes ? 920 01:11:17,150 --> 01:11:19,986 Candle sticks, books, picture frames. 921 01:11:22,197 --> 01:11:25,700 - A lot of Carltons. - No. 922 01:11:26,993 --> 01:11:31,247 I did feel like I had a bad start in this industry, 923 01:11:31,414 --> 01:11:34,209 and I knew that I wanted to be an artist, 924 01:11:34,834 --> 01:11:37,378 I knew I had a voice and something to say. 925 01:11:38,046 --> 01:11:43,009 After I turned 18 and there were no signs of anything slowing down 926 01:11:43,968 --> 01:11:46,971 and I had done the film "13" when I was 14, 927 01:11:47,138 --> 01:11:53,186 on the verge of becoming a woman, and all eyes were on me 928 01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:57,273 and there was a tremendous amount of pressure 929 01:11:57,398 --> 01:12:00,443 of what I needed to be in order to be successful. 930 01:12:01,236 --> 01:12:05,573 And a lot of it went against who I really was and who I felt I really was. 931 01:12:11,371 --> 01:12:15,291 When I hit my early 20s, I just realized I have no life skills. 932 01:12:15,959 --> 01:12:19,921 I know how to be a really successful actor and do really great work 933 01:12:20,046 --> 01:12:21,398 and that's about it. 934 01:12:21,548 --> 01:12:25,468 And it all came crashing down on me at once and I short circuited, 935 01:12:25,593 --> 01:12:30,306 and I also was left with the question of is this even really who I am 936 01:12:30,431 --> 01:12:33,768 and what I want to do ? And what happens if I walk away ? 937 01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:37,605 Born after the original series went off the air, Wil Wheaton, 938 01:12:37,730 --> 01:12:40,817 the youngest member of the cast of "Star Trek, The Next Generation," 939 01:12:40,942 --> 01:12:43,778 considers himself without a doubt to be a fan. 940 01:12:44,112 --> 01:12:47,156 The people from "Star Trek" reach out to my agent 941 01:12:47,282 --> 01:12:50,702 and she sent me on the audition and I booked the job. 942 01:12:52,245 --> 01:12:55,665 Sir, I know this might finish me was an acting ensign... 943 01:12:55,790 --> 01:12:57,208 Shut up, Wesley. 944 01:12:57,333 --> 01:13:01,838 What I've said would've been listened to if it came from an adult officer. 945 01:13:01,963 --> 01:13:06,092 Generally, young men were furious that there was another young man 946 01:13:06,217 --> 01:13:08,928 on their science fiction television show. 947 01:13:09,053 --> 01:13:12,473 A hundred million words have been written about that. 948 01:13:12,599 --> 01:13:16,644 It was like being told this thing that you spend all day working on 949 01:13:16,769 --> 01:13:20,815 instead of being a kid, it doesn't matter, and we hate you for it. 950 01:13:21,608 --> 01:13:25,528 Then I turned 18, I was an adult, I could make my own decisions. 951 01:13:25,987 --> 01:13:29,657 And I had this revelation, I don't have to do this if I don't want to. 952 01:13:29,782 --> 01:13:33,244 I don't have to do this thing that means more to my mom 953 01:13:33,369 --> 01:13:37,790 than it does to me, I can go live my life, I can be my own person. 954 01:13:38,666 --> 01:13:41,586 And I just kind of walked away. 955 01:13:42,587 --> 01:13:46,174 - What do you think of that ? - Your mom's going to kill you. 956 01:13:46,507 --> 01:13:49,385 She hasn't been here since I was 6. 957 01:13:50,762 --> 01:13:54,474 I understand why young people who aren't ready for it 958 01:13:54,599 --> 01:13:58,186 and I really don't know of a young kid who is ready for it, 959 01:13:58,311 --> 01:14:01,356 would get resentful and get self-destructive. 960 01:14:01,481 --> 01:14:04,067 And start engaging in dangerous behavior 961 01:14:04,192 --> 01:14:06,361 because they feel so out of control. 962 01:14:06,778 --> 01:14:08,154 I'm lookin' for a job. 963 01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:11,949 Everybody comin' in here askin' me for a job. What am I supposed to do ? 964 01:14:12,075 --> 01:14:16,663 The transition for most kids is you have to transition into adulthood 965 01:14:16,788 --> 01:14:18,915 and hope that you continue to work, 966 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,419 but I made it more difficult on me than it should have been. 967 01:14:24,170 --> 01:14:26,964 When did it start to go sour for you ? 968 01:14:27,799 --> 01:14:32,220 It's when I lost my self-esteem and my dignity inside of myself 969 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,515 and I lost my virtually, I lost myself. 970 01:14:36,015 --> 01:14:40,103 - So how did you respond to it ? - Very negatively, evidentially. 971 01:14:40,311 --> 01:14:43,481 I ended up getting myself in a little bit of trouble. 972 01:14:43,815 --> 01:14:47,860 By using drugs and doing things that I shouldn't have been doing. 973 01:14:48,736 --> 01:14:52,532 We, the jury, in the above entitled action find the defendant, 974 01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:57,578 Todd Anthony Bridges, not guilty of simple assault in violation 975 01:14:57,704 --> 01:15:00,998 of penal code section 240. A lesser included offense 976 01:15:01,124 --> 01:15:04,419 within that charge in count one of the information. 977 01:15:05,545 --> 01:15:09,382 Wasn't there a time where you actually went to his house, Betty ? 978 01:15:09,507 --> 01:15:13,052 You went to his house and you're all dressed in black ? 979 01:15:13,678 --> 01:15:16,806 And you said, "I'm wearing black because ?" 980 01:15:17,473 --> 01:15:21,769 I know you're gonna die. And he nailed me out of his house. 981 01:15:22,103 --> 01:15:25,231 He wouldn't let me in. He actually took furniture 982 01:15:25,356 --> 01:15:27,442 and nailed me out of the house. 983 01:15:27,817 --> 01:15:31,070 I always thought everything was supposed to be fair. 984 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,533 But it just wasn't and that's the thing you learn growing up as a child 985 01:15:35,658 --> 01:15:38,953 that things aren't fair, and it's not going to be. 986 01:15:39,704 --> 01:15:43,458 From TV star to drug addict, it's Dana Plato's last chance. 987 01:15:43,666 --> 01:15:46,878 Just one month ago, former "Different Strokes" star, Dana Plato, 988 01:15:47,003 --> 01:15:49,922 told us she was getting her life back together. 989 01:15:50,047 --> 01:15:53,342 Now she's been hauled back into court with the judge threatening 990 01:15:53,468 --> 01:15:56,429 one more mistake and it's behind bars for good. 991 01:15:56,679 --> 01:16:01,517 Poor Dana. You get people to believe that you just threw your life away. 992 01:16:01,684 --> 01:16:05,938 Yeah, I chose to throw my life away. No one chooses that. 993 01:16:06,355 --> 01:16:10,109 It's a tough journey and Dana had a hard journey. 994 01:16:12,111 --> 01:16:15,782 What can I tell you, Dana, you're controversial, evidently. 995 01:16:15,907 --> 01:16:18,534 Are you sorry that you were a child actress ? 996 01:16:18,659 --> 01:16:22,038 That term really bothers me. I think a child actress is somebody 997 01:16:22,163 --> 01:16:25,124 who will only has it when they're little and cute. 998 01:16:25,249 --> 01:16:27,418 I'm better now than I ever have been. 999 01:16:27,585 --> 01:16:30,755 I get better all the time. The fire's still in there. 1000 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,924 - So you enjoy it. - I'm an actress. 1001 01:16:33,132 --> 01:16:35,968 I consider myself an actor, not a child star. 1002 01:16:36,093 --> 01:16:39,972 That really bothers me a lot. Because I never was young and cute. 1003 01:16:40,139 --> 01:16:44,519 I get cuter as I get older maybe. It's something that it burns within. 1004 01:16:46,145 --> 01:16:49,857 The day after this interview, Dana died from a drug overdose. 1005 01:16:50,191 --> 01:16:52,944 We all had our share of things we went through, 1006 01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:56,489 but for Gary it was lot tougher because he was also ill. 1007 01:16:56,614 --> 01:17:00,117 Sometimes we didn't think he should be working at the time, 1008 01:17:00,284 --> 01:17:03,412 but you can't say what the parents are going to do. 1009 01:17:03,704 --> 01:17:06,499 If you cared, you wouldn't have done this. 1010 01:17:06,666 --> 01:17:10,419 I couldn't imagine being... He had just had a kidney transplant 1011 01:17:10,545 --> 01:17:13,214 and he was back on the set like a day later. 1012 01:17:13,381 --> 01:17:16,926 That's why for a while he really resented the show 1013 01:17:17,176 --> 01:17:19,929 because he was made to work and he was sick. 1014 01:17:20,847 --> 01:17:25,142 The death of a child star, Gary Coleman, who as a boy provided 1015 01:17:25,309 --> 01:17:29,021 so much amusement, so many laughs on the hit show, "Different Stokes", 1016 01:17:29,146 --> 01:17:31,082 died today. 1017 01:17:31,232 --> 01:17:35,653 My phone rang and I found out he had passed away. The interesting part 1018 01:17:35,778 --> 01:17:38,698 is realizing that the person they thought would not be here 1019 01:17:38,823 --> 01:17:42,618 is actually the last person standing, which is kind of weird. 1020 01:17:42,952 --> 01:17:47,582 It's 7:33 now, an autopsy later today will determine the cause of death 1021 01:17:47,707 --> 01:17:51,002 of one of Hollywood's rising starts, River Phoenix. 1022 01:17:51,168 --> 01:17:54,672 New York Daily News quotes a paramedic who said the actor 1023 01:17:54,797 --> 01:17:58,009 collapsed with all of the signs of a cocaine reaction. 1024 01:17:58,301 --> 01:18:02,805 It happened outside the Viper Room, a popular West Hollywood night spot. 1025 01:18:03,389 --> 01:18:06,642 Seizures on Sunset and Larabee. Please, come here ! 1026 01:18:06,934 --> 01:18:09,645 Calm down. What's the address where you need us ? 1027 01:18:09,812 --> 01:18:12,857 Sunset and Larabee. The Viper Room. 1028 01:18:13,566 --> 01:18:15,566 Went out the door 1029 01:18:16,527 --> 01:18:22,783 and the paramedics were working on this young man 1030 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,580 and I didn't know at the time that it was River. 1031 01:18:28,247 --> 01:18:32,084 The media wouldn't let not only River rest, 1032 01:18:32,501 --> 01:18:34,962 but they wouldn't let his family rest. 1033 01:18:40,843 --> 01:18:45,890 River and I were real close. He was a year and a half older than me, 1034 01:18:46,015 --> 01:18:49,143 but he was like an older brother who I looked up to. 1035 01:18:49,268 --> 01:18:51,771 - See ya. - Not if I see you first. 1036 01:18:55,358 --> 01:18:58,611 I looked up to him as a person, I looked up to him as an actor, 1037 01:18:58,736 --> 01:19:01,155 and I just treasured him as a friend. 1038 01:19:03,824 --> 01:19:07,745 And then around the time that I was 15 or 16, 1039 01:19:10,581 --> 01:19:13,334 he was kind of experimenting with drugs. 1040 01:19:14,877 --> 01:19:18,214 And River and I began to drift apart from each other 1041 01:19:19,757 --> 01:19:22,593 which really made me sad, but I remember thinking 1042 01:19:22,802 --> 01:19:25,930 when he's done with this we'll be friends again. 1043 01:19:27,765 --> 01:19:32,979 By the time River died, I hadn't talked to him for a couple of years. 1044 01:19:35,272 --> 01:19:37,692 And I couldn't believe it had happened. 1045 01:19:37,817 --> 01:19:42,947 And I was and remain so angry at the predatory people around him 1046 01:19:43,072 --> 01:19:45,007 who didn't try to help him. 1047 01:19:45,157 --> 01:19:47,743 I know addicts are responsible for their own behavior 1048 01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:50,329 and I know that it's important 1049 01:19:50,454 --> 01:19:54,125 to hold people responsible for the choices that they make, 1050 01:19:54,250 --> 01:19:58,629 but we also need help in our lives and we need people to look out for us 1051 01:19:58,754 --> 01:20:02,174 and I don't think there was anybody looking out for him. 1052 01:20:06,178 --> 01:20:08,514 I think that's one of the pitfalls 1053 01:20:08,723 --> 01:20:11,809 of being a kid in the entertainment business. 1054 01:20:11,934 --> 01:20:16,188 It's so hard to go from being a kid actor to being an adult artist. 1055 01:20:20,067 --> 01:20:22,778 I stopped modelling, I stopped acting, 1056 01:20:23,154 --> 01:20:25,906 I went to Europe, I recorded a record... 1057 01:20:26,365 --> 01:20:29,076 At that time I really thought it was music 1058 01:20:29,201 --> 01:20:31,954 that I will be able to leave my mark on. 1059 01:20:32,788 --> 01:20:35,875 The big turning point for me on so many levels, 1060 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,962 but especially as an actress, because I had written it all off, 1061 01:20:40,087 --> 01:20:42,339 was getting "The Fifth Element." 1062 01:20:45,676 --> 01:20:49,388 I was 19, to access a character like Leeloo... 1063 01:20:49,597 --> 01:20:52,141 There was no reference point. 1064 01:20:52,892 --> 01:20:56,187 She was kind of brand new and came out of nowhere. 1065 01:20:56,937 --> 01:21:00,649 So it was like very tricky like who is she and how to find her. 1066 01:21:03,235 --> 01:21:06,822 Of course, when I did "The Fifth Element" it suddenly gave me 1067 01:21:06,947 --> 01:21:10,993 this feeling of control that I had a talent 1068 01:21:11,368 --> 01:21:17,208 and that I knew how to access it in a way. 1069 01:21:18,209 --> 01:21:21,462 And not all the time. Sometimes more than others. 1070 01:21:21,587 --> 01:21:24,215 That's where you go through your journey of understanding 1071 01:21:24,423 --> 01:21:27,426 what scripts speak to you when you just feel like 1072 01:21:27,551 --> 01:21:30,513 I can do something with this, it feels natural. 1073 01:21:30,638 --> 01:21:33,516 Or on the other hand, wow, this feels so crazy, 1074 01:21:33,641 --> 01:21:36,977 it's a challenge. Like now, you get excited by things 1075 01:21:37,103 --> 01:21:39,230 that you've never done before. 1076 01:21:41,107 --> 01:21:46,779 At the time, it was difficult becoming a teenager and having that confidence. 1077 01:21:47,363 --> 01:21:52,827 I had no confidence as a teenager. It was like a fake it 'til you make it. 1078 01:21:53,994 --> 01:21:57,540 Luc Besson said to me, Look at it this way, 1079 01:21:57,665 --> 01:22:01,085 like your mother is like an expert table maker, 1080 01:22:01,502 --> 01:22:07,508 she makes the most amazing tables ever, but you make great chairs. 1081 01:22:11,345 --> 01:22:14,723 And I was like, "Yeah. I like that. It's true." 1082 01:22:15,516 --> 01:22:20,938 And it was interesting to be able to help me appreciate my mother, 1083 01:22:21,397 --> 01:22:24,733 but also separate and appreciate myself, too. 1084 01:22:26,735 --> 01:22:29,613 Now with Mara Wilson, you undoubtedly know her 1085 01:22:29,738 --> 01:22:33,075 from "Mrs.Doubtfire", "Matilda", many other movies. 1086 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,953 She's now revealing the ups and downs of childhood stardom 1087 01:22:36,078 --> 01:22:38,164 in her new book, "Where Am I Now ?". 1088 01:22:38,289 --> 01:22:41,792 It wasn't really until I was in my 20s and I was doing other things 1089 01:22:41,917 --> 01:22:44,503 that I could finally make peace with it. 1090 01:22:44,795 --> 01:22:48,340 And eventually, I ended up writing a book about my life. 1091 01:22:48,674 --> 01:22:51,468 I'd always known that I wanted to do that. 1092 01:22:51,594 --> 01:22:54,180 You're thinking about becoming a screen writer. 1093 01:22:54,305 --> 01:22:55,906 Script writer. 1094 01:22:56,056 --> 01:22:59,059 You wrote a piece that was picked up in the Huffington Post 1095 01:22:59,226 --> 01:23:01,226 about childhood fame... 1096 01:23:01,729 --> 01:23:03,814 There's a lot that I still want to do 1097 01:23:03,981 --> 01:23:07,401 and I'm not limiting myself into it, but for many reasons, 1098 01:23:07,526 --> 01:23:11,697 I probably won't be a screen actor. A big star like that ever again. 1099 01:23:12,448 --> 01:23:16,994 And I'm okay with that. I have a very devoted fan group and that's nice. 1100 01:23:17,828 --> 01:23:21,540 I haven't done a Disney project in over a year now. 1101 01:23:21,665 --> 01:23:25,127 The people who watch me still a lot of times are young. 1102 01:23:25,252 --> 01:23:28,422 I still want to be a good example, but at the same time, 1103 01:23:28,589 --> 01:23:31,008 right now I'm doing a show about porn. 1104 01:23:31,133 --> 01:23:34,428 And I love that shit. That's what I'm supposed to be doing. 1105 01:23:34,553 --> 01:23:36,639 I'm an actor and I want to do cool stuff. 1106 01:23:36,764 --> 01:23:42,770 So it's a weird balance like when you are trying to break out of something, 1107 01:23:42,895 --> 01:23:46,565 but I also feel the responsibility of being an example for these kids. 1108 01:23:46,815 --> 01:23:48,815 I take that seriously. 1109 01:23:49,026 --> 01:23:52,238 How do I marry what I actually want to be doing 1110 01:23:52,446 --> 01:23:56,951 with what people want to see from me and what they expect of me ? 1111 01:23:57,743 --> 01:24:00,454 Those two things are not the same. 1112 01:24:06,335 --> 01:24:08,796 I was bred to do this. 1113 01:24:09,505 --> 01:24:12,091 It was about good work and working with good people. 1114 01:24:12,258 --> 01:24:16,095 It's also about talking about something that you believed in 1115 01:24:16,220 --> 01:24:17,988 or moving people. 1116 01:24:18,138 --> 01:24:21,016 It's one of the reasons why I did films like, "13", 1117 01:24:21,141 --> 01:24:23,894 and why my parents allowed me to do films like that 1118 01:24:24,019 --> 01:24:27,564 because they understood the value of showing something real 1119 01:24:27,690 --> 01:24:30,234 that a lot of people don't want to look at. 1120 01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:33,779 That's absolutely carried over into my activism. 1121 01:24:34,196 --> 01:24:38,492 I now recognize our first witness. We'll go in this order. Miss Wood. 1122 01:24:38,993 --> 01:24:42,454 I'm here today as an artist, survivor, mother and advocate to bring 1123 01:24:42,579 --> 01:24:46,375 a human voice to a population of 25 million survivors in the US 1124 01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:49,378 who are experiencing inequality under the law 1125 01:24:49,503 --> 01:24:52,339 and who need basic civil rights. We need to pass 1126 01:24:52,464 --> 01:24:55,634 the sexual assault survivor bill of rights in all 50 states. 1127 01:24:55,801 --> 01:24:58,804 We've done this in nine so far and it's our job to make sure 1128 01:24:58,929 --> 01:25:02,683 that survivors in the remaining 41 are treated with dignity. 1129 01:25:02,808 --> 01:25:06,312 This is called progress and it starts here. Thank you. 1130 01:25:06,770 --> 01:25:11,358 I gave up my childhood for this industry and it wasn't my choice. 1131 01:25:12,109 --> 01:25:16,613 It is what it is. I really like my life. I have a really good life. 1132 01:25:17,323 --> 01:25:19,366 Your friend, Wil Wheaton. 1133 01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:22,161 It's my last one. I want you to have it. 1134 01:25:24,872 --> 01:25:27,583 Look, everyone, Wil Wheaton is my friend ! 1135 01:25:28,459 --> 01:25:32,171 I have an amazing family and I am a successful writer, 1136 01:25:33,339 --> 01:25:36,550 I'm good at being an actor, it's not my first choice, 1137 01:25:37,134 --> 01:25:39,970 it's not what gets me out of bed. But when someone's like, 1138 01:25:40,095 --> 01:25:43,307 "We need an actor for this," I'm like, "I can do that." 1139 01:25:46,101 --> 01:25:48,812 But when I tried to talk to my parents about it 1140 01:25:48,937 --> 01:25:55,736 and tried to express how I felt and my sense of loss 1141 01:25:56,653 --> 01:25:58,547 and express my sense 1142 01:25:58,697 --> 01:26:04,578 of not having these things that I wanted and needed, 1143 01:26:05,079 --> 01:26:07,079 they weren't able to hear it. 1144 01:26:09,583 --> 01:26:13,379 After pilot seasons, Marc and Melanie return home to Florida 1145 01:26:13,504 --> 01:26:15,105 without booking a job. 1146 01:26:15,255 --> 01:26:19,051 As a mother, it makes me feel like did I not do something right ? 1147 01:26:19,176 --> 01:26:23,472 Or why didn't I think to do that as far as Marc's career is concerned ? 1148 01:26:23,806 --> 01:26:26,850 - She always does everything right. - Thanks. 1149 01:26:27,601 --> 01:26:32,564 To you I hope so. But it does make you think could I have gone that extra mile 1150 01:26:32,856 --> 01:26:37,861 as a mom to maybe get him seen by somebody ? 1151 01:26:38,445 --> 01:26:43,158 We're gonna do pilot season again next year and depending on how that goes 1152 01:26:43,283 --> 01:26:46,745 we possibly could do episodic season in the fall. 1153 01:26:47,454 --> 01:26:51,500 It's really more about persistence than it is about being lucky. 1154 01:26:51,625 --> 01:26:55,129 Everybody else thinks it's lucky until you've actually been there 1155 01:26:55,254 --> 01:27:00,050 and then it's just one really good day after a lot of days of hard work. 1156 01:27:08,976 --> 01:27:11,603 Hello, Erin ? Is there any homework ? 1157 01:27:13,647 --> 01:27:17,276 You said you wanted to go to summer camp. Did you get to go ? 1158 01:27:17,443 --> 01:27:20,070 - No. - Were you disappointed? 1159 01:27:20,279 --> 01:27:24,324 A little bit. Most of my friends are going to sleepaway camp. 1160 01:27:25,659 --> 01:27:28,495 But I've been auditioning over the summer. 1161 01:27:28,996 --> 01:27:32,583 I really, really want to become a well known actress. 1162 01:27:33,667 --> 01:27:37,921 When I was little I used to want my name on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, 1163 01:27:38,046 --> 01:27:42,468 on one of the stars, so that's something I really want to do, 1164 01:27:42,801 --> 01:27:47,097 to become like a legacy and inspire other people to do what they love. 1165 01:27:48,098 --> 01:27:51,560 That's my diva stream to do something for someone else. 1166 01:27:54,605 --> 01:27:56,607 I'll face this guy. 1167 01:28:03,822 --> 01:28:09,286 If someone had told me that my life would have been like this 1168 01:28:09,828 --> 01:28:13,540 early enough where I could have got out, I would have got out. 1169 01:28:14,291 --> 01:28:16,793 Have a normal life and have friends. 1170 01:28:18,253 --> 01:28:21,173 It's a half kid because I still think about that, 1171 01:28:21,298 --> 01:28:23,298 I fantasize about it. 1172 01:28:26,970 --> 01:28:32,476 I find it very scary and I would not want my kids 1173 01:28:32,643 --> 01:28:36,438 to pursue a career as a child. 1174 01:28:38,690 --> 01:28:41,193 Because I just find so disruptive. 1175 01:28:42,110 --> 01:28:44,738 - Yes, my love ? - My toe hurts. 1176 01:28:44,947 --> 01:28:47,157 What part of your toe hurts ? 1177 01:28:47,991 --> 01:28:52,162 My daughter, my eldest, who's now 11, when she was four years old 1178 01:28:52,829 --> 01:28:55,624 she said, "Mommy, I want to be on TV." 1179 01:28:56,750 --> 01:28:59,962 My instincts were going, you think you want this, 1180 01:29:00,087 --> 01:29:04,591 but if I allow you to do this, you're not gonna like it. 1181 01:29:06,176 --> 01:29:10,847 It really is one of those things where like she wants to be an actress 1182 01:29:10,973 --> 01:29:13,850 and I want to help her do what she loves to do 1183 01:29:13,976 --> 01:29:17,229 because she's really got a natural ability for it, 1184 01:29:17,563 --> 01:29:21,608 but you're young, you don't need to do a bunch of movies right now. 1185 01:29:21,733 --> 01:29:25,028 What you need right now is to become strong. 1186 01:29:26,697 --> 01:29:31,368 You need to be like a ship with full sails, with a crew 1187 01:29:32,411 --> 01:29:35,831 that knows how to navigate, I want you to be so strong. 1188 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,502 My son was in the business originally and not anymore. 1189 01:29:40,627 --> 01:29:42,838 But it was time to get him out. 1190 01:29:43,171 --> 01:29:47,092 It's great when you're a child, you build a nice bank account, 1191 01:29:47,217 --> 01:29:49,803 but you don't understand this business. 1192 01:29:49,970 --> 01:29:52,639 The movie business has been reliable and great, 1193 01:29:52,764 --> 01:29:55,892 make a lot of money and wouldn't be talked about. 1194 01:29:56,727 --> 01:29:59,396 I feel like a role model 'cause I'm a mom... 1195 01:30:01,398 --> 01:30:05,402 You have managed to keep your son completely off of the internet. 1196 01:30:05,527 --> 01:30:07,527 Totally absent. 1197 01:30:07,696 --> 01:30:13,160 It's been a very conscious decision. Because of the way I was raised 1198 01:30:13,410 --> 01:30:16,997 I don't want to do anything that he doesn't have a say in. 1199 01:30:17,122 --> 01:30:19,416 If he doesn't want his image out there, 1200 01:30:19,541 --> 01:30:23,587 I didn't want to put it out there. Also, there's just a lot of creeps. 1201 01:30:50,072 --> 01:30:54,284 Now as an adult and as a parent, you look at all of the ways 1202 01:30:54,618 --> 01:30:57,454 that it takes a kid out of their world. 1203 01:30:59,873 --> 01:31:04,503 And it's nice to be a kid and it's nice to have a childhood 1204 01:31:05,379 --> 01:31:08,465 that's a childhood completely unto itself. 1205 01:31:26,233 --> 01:31:29,111 On July 6th, 2019, Cameron Boyce died in his sleep 1206 01:31:29,236 --> 01:31:31,236 from an epileptic seizure. 1207 01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:38,578 On February 24th, 2020, Diana Serra Cary passed away at 101 years old. 1208 01:31:39,746 --> 01:31:42,416 This film is dedicated to their memory. 1209 01:31:57,139 --> 01:32:00,809 SHOWBIZ KIDS 111330

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