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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,500 --> 00:00:14,900 (distant helicopter blades beating) 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,666 (radio feedback) 3 00:00:19,133 --> 00:00:24,733 JOHN MUSGRAVE: I was assigned a listening post at Con Thien in the fall. 4 00:00:24,833 --> 00:00:28,733 That was like getting a death sentence at a trial. 5 00:00:28,833 --> 00:00:31,166 Because that's just three Marines out there with a radio. 6 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:34,266 And that's the scariest thing I did. 7 00:00:34,366 --> 00:00:37,066 You're listening for the enemy. 8 00:00:37,166 --> 00:00:40,200 They call you on the radio every hour, 9 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:41,633 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, 10 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:45,033 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, this is Delta Three. 11 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:48,200 "If your sit rep is alpha sierra, key your handset twice. 12 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:49,566 (two blips of static) 13 00:00:49,666 --> 00:00:51,266 "If your situation report is all secure, 14 00:00:51,366 --> 00:00:52,966 break squelch twice on the handset." 15 00:00:53,066 --> 00:00:54,966 (two lower-toned blips of static) 16 00:00:55,066 --> 00:00:57,066 And if it's not, they keep thinking you're asleep 17 00:00:57,166 --> 00:00:59,700 so they keep asking you, "If your sit rep is alpha sierra," 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,133 and then it finally dawns on them 19 00:01:01,233 --> 00:01:03,766 maybe there's somebody too close for you to say anything. 20 00:01:03,866 --> 00:01:06,800 So then they say, "If your sit rep is negative alpha sierra, 21 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:08,266 key your handset once," 22 00:01:08,366 --> 00:01:10,233 and you damn near squeeze the handle off the, you know, 23 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:13,466 and two on the radio because they're so close 24 00:01:13,566 --> 00:01:15,600 that you can hear them whispering to one another. 25 00:01:18,033 --> 00:01:19,433 And that's scary stuff. 26 00:01:19,533 --> 00:01:20,700 That's real scary stuff. 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,433 And I'm scared of the dark, still. 28 00:01:24,533 --> 00:01:27,366 I still got a night light. 29 00:01:27,466 --> 00:01:30,666 When my kids were growing up, 30 00:01:30,766 --> 00:01:34,400 that's the first time they really found out 31 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:36,566 that Daddy'd been in a war when they said, 32 00:01:36,666 --> 00:01:39,133 "Well, why do we need to outgrow our night lights? 33 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,600 Daddy's still got one." 34 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:47,466 ("So What" by Miles Davis playing) 35 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:51,666 JOHN KENNEDY: Let the word go forth from this time and place, 36 00:01:51,766 --> 00:01:54,600 to friend and foe alike, 37 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:58,800 that the torch has been passed to a new generation 38 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:05,566 of Americans born in this century, tempered by war, 39 00:02:05,666 --> 00:02:09,266 disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, 40 00:02:09,366 --> 00:02:10,733 proud of our... 41 00:02:10,833 --> 00:02:12,600 JACK TODD: I still believed, very much, 42 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:17,366 in this concept of an heroic America, 43 00:02:17,466 --> 00:02:20,100 America being a really special country, 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,366 the best country in the world, the best democracy, 45 00:02:23,466 --> 00:02:27,400 all the things that we believe about it, which... 46 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,600 and I didn't really see anything wrong with that. 47 00:02:32,333 --> 00:02:36,833 I was sure that we were right to be in Vietnam. 48 00:02:36,933 --> 00:02:39,066 You know, because it started under Kennedy 49 00:02:39,166 --> 00:02:41,600 and, to me, JFK was God. 50 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:45,066 Anything that he thought was right, I thought was right. 51 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:51,433 NARRATOR: At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the youngest man 52 00:02:51,533 --> 00:02:55,066 ever elected president of the United States. 53 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:57,533 He had promised bold new leadership, 54 00:02:57,633 --> 00:03:00,966 and to his supporters his inauguration seemed to signal 55 00:03:01,066 --> 00:03:03,800 a new day. 56 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:06,833 To those new states whom we welcome 57 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:09,733 to the ranks of the free, 58 00:03:09,833 --> 00:03:15,766 we pledge our word that one form of colonial control 59 00:03:15,866 --> 00:03:18,300 shall not have passed away 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,533 merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. 61 00:03:23,633 --> 00:03:28,733 We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. 62 00:03:28,833 --> 00:03:33,266 But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting 63 00:03:33,366 --> 00:03:38,733 their own freedom and to remember that, in the past, 64 00:03:38,833 --> 00:03:42,200 those who foolishly sought power 65 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:46,566 by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,733 (cheers and applause) 67 00:03:54,933 --> 00:03:57,200 NARRATOR: The new president gathered around him 68 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,100 an extraordinary set of advisors who shared his determination 69 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,200 to confront communism, including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 70 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:10,033 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 71 00:04:10,133 --> 00:04:12,766 his deputy Walt Rostow, 72 00:04:12,866 --> 00:04:17,233 special military advisor General Maxwell Taylor, 73 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:20,866 and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 74 00:04:20,966 --> 00:04:22,533 who had given up his post 75 00:04:22,633 --> 00:04:26,566 as president of the Ford Motor Company to serve his country. 76 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:32,666 He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis. 77 00:04:32,766 --> 00:04:35,566 Like the president who picked them, 78 00:04:35,666 --> 00:04:39,766 all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II. 79 00:04:39,866 --> 00:04:42,100 Each had absorbed what they all believed 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,066 was its central lesson: 81 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:48,166 ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks 82 00:04:48,266 --> 00:04:51,433 before they constituted a serious danger 83 00:04:51,533 --> 00:04:53,566 to the peace of the world. 84 00:04:53,666 --> 00:04:56,833 Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, 85 00:04:56,933 --> 00:04:58,933 the National Liberation Front-- 86 00:04:59,033 --> 00:05:01,900 labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong-- 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,266 was determined to overthrow 88 00:05:04,366 --> 00:05:07,433 the anticommunist and increasingly autocratic 89 00:05:07,533 --> 00:05:10,733 government of Ngo Dinh Diem. 90 00:05:10,833 --> 00:05:14,900 In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,900 Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese independence, 92 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,200 was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, 93 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:25,200 Le Duan, who was even more impatient 94 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:27,700 to reunify his country. 95 00:05:29,133 --> 00:05:30,766 BAO NINH: 96 00:05:47,966 --> 00:05:51,466 LESLIE GELB: None of us knew anything about Vietnam. 97 00:05:51,566 --> 00:05:55,666 Vietnam in those days was a piece on a chessboard, 98 00:05:55,766 --> 00:05:57,833 a strategic chessboard, 99 00:05:57,933 --> 00:06:01,800 not a place with a culture and a history 100 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:07,366 that we would have an impossible time changing, 101 00:06:07,466 --> 00:06:10,333 even with the mighty force of the United States. 102 00:06:10,433 --> 00:06:15,033 NARRATOR: Over the next three years, the United States would struggle 103 00:06:15,133 --> 00:06:19,533 to understand the complicated country it had come to save, 104 00:06:19,633 --> 00:06:22,700 fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve, 105 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,433 and misread how the South Vietnamese people really felt 106 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:28,500 about their government. 107 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,600 The new president would find himself caught 108 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:37,266 between the momentum of war and the desire for peace, 109 00:06:37,366 --> 00:06:40,333 between humility and hubris, 110 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:46,799 between idealism and expediency, between the truth and a lie. 111 00:06:58,433 --> 00:07:03,633 ("My Country 'Tis of Thee" playing) 112 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:10,200 KENNEDY: And so, my fellow Americans, 113 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:15,366 ask not what your country can do for you, 114 00:07:15,466 --> 00:07:17,766 ask what you can do for your country. 115 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,466 MUSGRAVE: I grew up in Missouri, near Kansas City, 116 00:07:28,566 --> 00:07:31,633 a little community called Fairmount. 117 00:07:31,733 --> 00:07:33,166 I was born in 1948. 118 00:07:33,266 --> 00:07:35,766 And there were lots of kids being born in those days 119 00:07:35,866 --> 00:07:37,400 from the guys who were lucky enough to come home 120 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:38,466 from World War II. 121 00:07:39,733 --> 00:07:43,066 My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. 122 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:45,866 And all of dad's friends 123 00:07:45,966 --> 00:07:49,000 were World War II vets or Korean vets. 124 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:51,700 And all of my male teachers were veterans. 125 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,200 And even my pastor had been a chaplain. 126 00:07:55,733 --> 00:08:00,533 Well, they were my heroes, and I wanted to be like them. 127 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:10,433 NARRATOR: For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric, 128 00:08:10,533 --> 00:08:13,100 for all the talent he gathered around him, 129 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,433 the first months of his presidency did not go well. 130 00:08:16,533 --> 00:08:20,866 He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba 131 00:08:20,966 --> 00:08:25,433 at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster. 132 00:08:25,533 --> 00:08:27,333 He felt he'd been bullied 133 00:08:27,433 --> 00:08:29,766 by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev 134 00:08:29,866 --> 00:08:32,133 at a summit meeting in Vienna. 135 00:08:32,233 --> 00:08:34,500 He was unable to keep the Soviets 136 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,866 from building the Berlin Wall. 137 00:08:36,966 --> 00:08:41,100 And in Southeast Asia, he refused to intervene 138 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,333 against a communist insurrection in Laos. 139 00:08:44,433 --> 00:08:48,966 Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive, 140 00:08:49,066 --> 00:08:52,666 inadequate to the task of combating what seemed to be 141 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:55,166 a mounting communist threat. 142 00:08:55,266 --> 00:08:58,700 "There are just so many concessions that we can make 143 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,200 in one year and survive politically," 144 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:05,966 he confided to an aide in the spring of 1961. 145 00:09:06,066 --> 00:09:11,300 In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act. 146 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,066 After the president received reports 147 00:09:14,166 --> 00:09:16,633 that the Viet Cong might be in control 148 00:09:16,733 --> 00:09:20,666 of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta, 149 00:09:20,766 --> 00:09:24,766 he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow 150 00:09:24,866 --> 00:09:26,933 to Vietnam. 151 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:30,766 They urged him to commit American ground troops. 152 00:09:30,866 --> 00:09:32,433 Kennedy refused. 153 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:36,166 It would be like taking a first drink, he said-- 154 00:09:36,266 --> 00:09:39,333 the effect would soon wear off and there would be demands 155 00:09:39,433 --> 00:09:42,766 for another and another and another. 156 00:09:42,866 --> 00:09:46,233 Instead, in the midst of a cold war, 157 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:49,500 with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation, 158 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,833 the president supported a new "flexible" way 159 00:09:52,933 --> 00:09:58,400 to confront and contain communism: limited war. 160 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:03,200 This is another type of warfare, new in its intensity, 161 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:05,833 ancient in its origin-- 162 00:10:05,933 --> 00:10:10,766 war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; 163 00:10:10,866 --> 00:10:15,266 war by ambush instead of by combat; 164 00:10:15,366 --> 00:10:17,900 by infiltration instead of aggression. 165 00:10:19,633 --> 00:10:22,033 NARRATOR: To fight his "limited wars," 166 00:10:22,133 --> 00:10:25,000 Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets, 167 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:28,566 special forces trained in guerrilla warfare, 168 00:10:28,666 --> 00:10:31,200 counterinsurgency. 169 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:36,000 They were meant to be dispatched to hotspots around the world. 170 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:38,833 ROBERT RHEAULT: Khrushchev said, "We're not going to destroy you 171 00:10:38,933 --> 00:10:40,333 with nuclear weapons, 172 00:10:40,433 --> 00:10:43,466 we're going to destroy you with wars of national liberation." 173 00:10:43,566 --> 00:10:45,466 Everybody talked about the fact 174 00:10:45,566 --> 00:10:50,233 that communism was spreading and it had to be stopped. 175 00:10:50,333 --> 00:10:53,000 You went to Command and General Staff College 176 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:56,600 and you were playing on maps with nuclear weapons 177 00:10:56,700 --> 00:10:58,300 and so forth. 178 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,266 And I escaped from that by getting into Special Forces. 179 00:11:03,366 --> 00:11:06,000 So that instead of planning what we were going to do 180 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:11,033 if World War III broke out, we were actually doing stuff. 181 00:11:12,566 --> 00:11:16,000 And Vietnam was a place where we were going to draw the line. 182 00:11:17,666 --> 00:11:19,366 NARRATOR: Kennedy sent the Green Berets 183 00:11:19,466 --> 00:11:21,700 to the Central Highlands of Vietnam 184 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,366 to organize mountain tribes to fight the Viet Cong 185 00:11:25,466 --> 00:11:30,133 and to undertake covert missions to sabotage their supply bases 186 00:11:30,233 --> 00:11:33,233 in Laos and Cambodia. 187 00:11:33,333 --> 00:11:37,766 But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone 188 00:11:37,866 --> 00:11:38,933 would never be enough, 189 00:11:39,033 --> 00:11:42,466 so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army, 190 00:11:42,566 --> 00:11:47,833 dispatched helicopters and APCs, armored personnel carriers. 191 00:11:50,833 --> 00:11:54,566 Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm 192 00:11:54,666 --> 00:11:59,100 and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong 193 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,066 and destroy the crops that fed them. 194 00:12:03,166 --> 00:12:06,233 A whole array of chemicals was used, 195 00:12:06,333 --> 00:12:09,700 including one named for the color of the stripes 196 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:15,800 on the 55-gallon drums in which it came-- "Agent Orange." 197 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:19,400 And the president quietly continued to increase 198 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,366 the number of American military advisors. 199 00:12:22,466 --> 00:12:27,733 Within two years, the number he had inherited would grow 200 00:12:27,833 --> 00:12:31,033 to 11,300, 201 00:12:31,133 --> 00:12:33,600 empowered not only to teach 202 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:36,633 the Army of the Republic of Vietnam-- the ARVN-- 203 00:12:36,733 --> 00:12:38,700 to fight a conventional war, 204 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,966 but to accompany them into battle, 205 00:12:41,066 --> 00:12:44,500 a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam 206 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,566 back in 1954. 207 00:12:45,666 --> 00:12:49,233 (gunfire) 208 00:12:49,333 --> 00:12:53,300 The administration did its best to hide from the American people 209 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,733 the scale of the buildup that was taking place 210 00:12:55,833 --> 00:12:57,600 on the other side of the world, 211 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,533 fearful that the public would not support 212 00:13:00,633 --> 00:13:07,466 the more active role advisors had begun to play in combat. 213 00:13:07,566 --> 00:13:10,166 Mr. President, a Republican National Committee publication 214 00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:13,566 has said that you are... have been less than candid 215 00:13:13,666 --> 00:13:17,500 with the American people as to how deeply we are involved 216 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,400 in Vietnam. 217 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,000 Could you throw any more light on that? 218 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:24,100 We have increased our assistance to the government, 219 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,933 its logistics. 220 00:13:26,033 --> 00:13:27,900 We have not sent combat troops there. 221 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,166 Though the training missions that we have there 222 00:13:31,266 --> 00:13:34,033 have been instructed if they are fired upon to... 223 00:13:34,133 --> 00:13:37,000 they are, would of course, fire back, to protect themselves. 224 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:38,833 But we have not sent combat troops 225 00:13:38,933 --> 00:13:41,200 in the generally understood sense of the word. 226 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:46,900 So that I-I feel that we are being as frank as the... 227 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,166 as we can be. 228 00:13:48,266 --> 00:13:49,800 I think we... what I have said to you 229 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:52,966 is a description of our activity there. 230 00:13:57,533 --> 00:14:00,966 NEIL SHEEHAN: I was a child of the Cold War. 231 00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:04,533 When I got off the plane in Saigon on a humid evening 232 00:14:04,633 --> 00:14:06,466 in April 1962, 233 00:14:06,566 --> 00:14:10,433 I really believed in all the ideology of the Cold War. 234 00:14:10,533 --> 00:14:11,566 On... 235 00:14:11,666 --> 00:14:14,233 That if we lost South Vietnam, 236 00:14:14,333 --> 00:14:16,700 that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the communists. 237 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,600 There was an international communist conspiracy. 238 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:23,133 We believed fervently in this stuff. 239 00:14:23,233 --> 00:14:27,100 NARRATOR: Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter 240 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,500 for United Press International, UPI. 241 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,666 He had served three years in the Army in Korea and Japan 242 00:14:34,766 --> 00:14:37,500 before deciding to become a newspaperman. 243 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Vietnam was his first full-time overseas assignment, 244 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:43,733 and his only worry, he remembered, 245 00:14:43,833 --> 00:14:46,500 was that he would get there too late and miss out 246 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,566 on the big story. 247 00:14:48,666 --> 00:14:52,800 Sheehan and other reporters rode along as the ARVN mounted 248 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:56,400 a series of helicopter assaults on enemy strongholds 249 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:58,833 in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere 250 00:14:58,933 --> 00:15:02,366 and brought terror to the Viet Cong. 251 00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:05,466 American pilots were at the controls. 252 00:15:05,566 --> 00:15:09,966 SHEEHAN: It was a crusade and it was thrilling. 253 00:15:10,066 --> 00:15:12,566 And you'd climb aboard the helicopters 254 00:15:12,666 --> 00:15:16,000 with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle. 255 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:17,666 And they'd take off. 256 00:15:17,766 --> 00:15:20,400 And they'd contour-fly, they'd skim across the rice paddies 257 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:22,666 at about three or four feet above the paddies, 258 00:15:22,766 --> 00:15:26,633 and then pop up over the tree lines that lined the fields. 259 00:15:26,733 --> 00:15:27,900 It was thrilling. 260 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,233 I mean it was absolutely thrilling. 261 00:15:29,333 --> 00:15:32,333 And you believed in what was happening. 262 00:15:32,433 --> 00:15:34,500 I mean you had the sense that we're fighting here 263 00:15:34,599 --> 00:15:38,400 and some day we'll win, and this country will be a better, 264 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,533 better country for our coming. 265 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,300 NARRATOR: The new M-113 armored personnel carriers 266 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,066 were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies 267 00:15:48,166 --> 00:15:49,933 and right through the earthen dikes 268 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:52,333 that separated one field from the next. 269 00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:58,766 The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them. 270 00:15:58,866 --> 00:16:04,600 JAMES SCANLON: We were just overwhelming them with force, with firepower. 271 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:08,000 And the firefights would be over in a pretty short time. 272 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,766 MAN ON RADIO: We have some people running along the dikes. 273 00:16:10,866 --> 00:16:13,800 Actually, the canal is perpendicular 274 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,300 to the one you're attacking now. 275 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,266 They have on black uniforms, and I estimate approximately 3-0. 276 00:16:19,366 --> 00:16:21,933 Do you have them in sight? Over. 277 00:16:22,033 --> 00:16:24,233 SCANLON: That's what was causing us to win, see. 278 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:27,466 And we were winning one after the other. 279 00:16:27,566 --> 00:16:31,133 And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance. 280 00:16:31,233 --> 00:16:34,966 NARRATOR: Captain James Scanlon had been stationed in West Germany 281 00:16:35,066 --> 00:16:38,166 and had seen for himself the brutality with which 282 00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:40,800 the communist East Germans dealt with anyone 283 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:44,300 who dared try to escape to the West. 284 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,633 He was now in the Mekong Delta, 285 00:16:46,733 --> 00:16:49,700 an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN, 286 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,500 and had begun to see evidence of Viet Cong brutality as well. 287 00:16:57,733 --> 00:17:01,400 SCANLON: Those of us who talked to the people who fled East Germany, 288 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:05,500 we saw the need to stop the growth of communism, 289 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,000 to stop the dominoes from being tumbled. 290 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:11,633 That was a worthy cause. 291 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:16,900 NARRATOR: As the ARVN and their advisors pursued the Viet Cong, 292 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,633 the government of Ngo Dinh Diem had launched 293 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:24,033 an ambitious program meant to gain control of the countryside 294 00:17:24,133 --> 00:17:26,800 by concentrating the rural population 295 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:29,466 into thousands of fortified settlements, 296 00:17:29,566 --> 00:17:33,900 ringed with barbed wire and moats and bamboo spikes 297 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,666 meant to keep out the Viet Cong. 298 00:17:36,766 --> 00:17:41,100 They were called strategic hamlets, part of the effort 299 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,266 to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty, 300 00:17:44,366 --> 00:17:45,766 of the Vietnamese people. 301 00:17:45,866 --> 00:17:50,466 The French had tried something like it a decade before. 302 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:54,500 They had called it pacification. 303 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,166 ROBERT McNAMARA: President Diem's strategic hamlet program 304 00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:59,700 is making substantial progress. 305 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,433 About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets 306 00:18:04,533 --> 00:18:08,100 have been fortified to date. 307 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,400 NARRATOR: By the summer of 1962, 308 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,833 news from South Vietnam seemed so promising 309 00:18:13,933 --> 00:18:17,666 that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara made sure 310 00:18:17,766 --> 00:18:20,833 the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan 311 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:24,400 for a gradual withdrawal of American advisors 312 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:27,066 to be completed by 1965. 313 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:30,700 So far as most Americans knew, 314 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,633 the United States was achieving its goal: 315 00:18:33,733 --> 00:18:37,000 a stable, independent, anticommunist state 316 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,200 in South Vietnam. 317 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:43,666 It was "a struggle this country cannot shirk," 318 00:18:43,766 --> 00:18:45,533 theNew York Tim es said, 319 00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:50,033 and the United States seemed to be winning it. 320 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:55,566 But that same summer, Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing 321 00:18:55,666 --> 00:18:59,166 in search of more help from the Chinese. 322 00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:02,600 The American buildup in South Vietnam had alarmed him 323 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,900 and the other leaders in Hanoi. 324 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,266 Ho told the Chinese that American attacks 325 00:19:08,366 --> 00:19:14,233 on North Vietnam itself now seemed only a matter of time. 326 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:18,333 The Chinese promised to equip and arm tens of thousands 327 00:19:18,433 --> 00:19:21,400 of Vietnamese soldiers. 328 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:25,000 Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi had directed 329 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:28,366 that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man 330 00:19:28,466 --> 00:19:33,300 be required to serve in the armed forces. 331 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,566 ("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" by Bill Doggett playing) 332 00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,500 NARRATOR: Inspired by their president's call, 333 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,800 thousands of young Americans would join the Peace Corps 334 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,733 and other organizations to help project American ideals 335 00:19:49,833 --> 00:19:52,200 and goodwill around the world. 336 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:59,300 ("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" continues) 337 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:09,800 RUFUS PHILLIPS: We were not only there in Vietnam to stop communism, 338 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:13,733 but there had to be something positive. 339 00:20:13,833 --> 00:20:17,066 We're trying to find out what the Vietnamese people want 340 00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:19,766 and to help them get it. 341 00:20:19,866 --> 00:20:21,100 And that was very simple 342 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,233 but, if you think about it, also very complex. 343 00:20:23,333 --> 00:20:25,700 But it went to the heart, I thought, 344 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,166 of what we were trying to do. 345 00:20:28,266 --> 00:20:30,066 ("Dirty Overalls" by Woody Guthrie playing) 346 00:20:30,166 --> 00:20:33,400 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old from Oklahoma City, 347 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:37,066 would go to Vietnam right after college to do what he could 348 00:20:37,166 --> 00:20:40,400 to help poor villagers in the countryside. 349 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,866 WOODY GUTHRIE: ♪ I was a soldier in the fight 350 00:20:42,966 --> 00:20:45,200 ♪ And I fought till we won 351 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:49,366 ♪ My uniform's my dirty overhauls. ♪ 352 00:20:49,466 --> 00:20:51,266 HUNTING (dramatized): Dear Margo, 353 00:20:51,366 --> 00:20:53,766 I finally finished up my work in Phan Rang last week. 354 00:20:53,866 --> 00:20:55,733 Had spent a month working on a windmill 355 00:20:55,833 --> 00:20:57,833 I'd promised the people of one hamlet. 356 00:20:57,933 --> 00:21:02,500 Cost a lot of money, too, which I paid out of my own pocket. 357 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,366 GUTHRIE: ♪ Well, I'll give you my sweat, I'll give you my blood. ♪ 358 00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:08,566 HUNTING (dramatized): I'm in soaring spirits today 359 00:21:08,666 --> 00:21:11,833 despite all the natural disasters, political intrigues, 360 00:21:11,933 --> 00:21:14,000 and subversive activities. 361 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,500 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting worked 362 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,400 for the International Voluntary Services, 363 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:23,233 a nonprofit organization committed to improving 364 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:26,433 agriculture, education, and public health. 365 00:21:26,533 --> 00:21:29,700 He was one of hundreds of dedicated aid workers 366 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,333 in South Vietnam. 367 00:21:32,433 --> 00:21:36,166 GUTHRIE: ♪ My hoe is my gun. 368 00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:38,433 HUNTING (dramatized): Latest news on this side of the world 369 00:21:38,533 --> 00:21:40,533 is that I'll almost definitely be extending over here 370 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,500 for another two years, 371 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,733 providing the country stays in one piece that long. 372 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,933 NARRATOR: Two years after he arrived, 373 00:21:50,033 --> 00:21:52,433 Pete Hunting was driving in the Mekong Delta 374 00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:55,333 when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush. 375 00:21:55,433 --> 00:21:58,900 He was shot five times in the head... 376 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,600 (gunshot) 377 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,666 the first American civilian volunteer 378 00:22:02,766 --> 00:22:05,433 to be killed in Vietnam. 379 00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:20,666 (helicopter blades beating, voices on radio) 380 00:22:20,766 --> 00:22:26,333 (distorted sound of gunfire, explosion) 381 00:22:33,933 --> 00:22:36,233 People used to joke in Vietnam 382 00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:37,966 about winning the hearts and minds. 383 00:22:38,066 --> 00:22:41,600 And you hear that expression, but that should not be a joke. 384 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,800 It's a serious, serious problem. 385 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,333 If you pull off a military operation, 386 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:50,033 and it may be successful on the military basis, 387 00:22:50,133 --> 00:22:53,000 but you destroy a village, 388 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:56,833 then you've created a village of resistance. 389 00:22:56,933 --> 00:23:00,800 NARRATOR: Few advisors understood the unique challenges 390 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:03,633 of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam 391 00:23:03,733 --> 00:23:07,633 better than Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann. 392 00:23:07,733 --> 00:23:10,366 A career soldier from Virginia, 393 00:23:10,466 --> 00:23:12,633 he was the senior American advisor 394 00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:16,733 to the 7th ARVN Division in the Mekong Delta. 395 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:21,300 Small, wiry and abrasive, John Paul Vann was convinced 396 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,500 he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong. 397 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,133 PHILIP BRADY: John Paul Vann was simply the most remarkable soldier 398 00:23:30,233 --> 00:23:31,300 I ever met. 399 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,266 Period. 400 00:23:33,366 --> 00:23:38,100 The biggest challenge of John Paul Vann's life 401 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,000 was somehow saving Vietnam, winning. 402 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:47,000 That, to him, was the ultimate challenge. 403 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,466 (explosion) 404 00:23:49,566 --> 00:23:51,133 NARRATOR: When it became clear to Vann 405 00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:54,100 that the tactics the Americans had taught the ARVN 406 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,300 were beginning to make more enemies than friends, 407 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,066 he sought out newspapermen to spread the word. 408 00:24:02,166 --> 00:24:06,033 NEIL SHEEHAN: He was able to explain to us what was going on. 409 00:24:06,133 --> 00:24:09,433 The important thing was not to alienate the population. 410 00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:12,400 That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet, 411 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:14,866 you sent in riflemen to take out the sniper. 412 00:24:14,966 --> 00:24:17,233 You didn't shell the place, because you were going to kill 413 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:19,633 women and kids and destroy houses 414 00:24:19,733 --> 00:24:22,200 and you were going to turn the population against you. 415 00:24:24,433 --> 00:24:27,700 NARRATOR: Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat 416 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,466 in the tradition of previous wars. 417 00:24:30,566 --> 00:24:35,366 But a handful of young reporters including Neil Sheehan, 418 00:24:35,466 --> 00:24:37,933 David Halberstam of theNew York Times, 419 00:24:38,033 --> 00:24:40,566 and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press, 420 00:24:40,666 --> 00:24:44,366 who spent time in the field with officers like Vann, 421 00:24:44,466 --> 00:24:48,500 were beginning to see that from the Vietnamese countryside, 422 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,766 things looked very different than they did 423 00:24:50,866 --> 00:24:54,666 from the press offices in Washington or Saigon. 424 00:24:54,766 --> 00:24:58,933 SHEEHAN: So it was terribly important that we not only win the war 425 00:24:59,033 --> 00:25:01,866 but that we as reporters report the truth 426 00:25:01,966 --> 00:25:04,800 that would help to win the war. 427 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,933 We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth 428 00:25:08,033 --> 00:25:11,100 because it was very important to the welfare of our country 429 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,600 and to the welfare of the world. 430 00:25:14,733 --> 00:25:18,166 NARRATOR: Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions 431 00:25:18,266 --> 00:25:23,200 about what constituted progress, what victory would look like, 432 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:25,600 and if the people in the countryside, 433 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:29,300 where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived, 434 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,166 could ever trust the government in Saigon. 435 00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:37,266 SHEEHAN: I remember going, during one of Robert McNamara's visits, 436 00:25:37,366 --> 00:25:40,333 out to one of these hamlets. 437 00:25:40,433 --> 00:25:41,866 The Vietnamese general who commanded the area 438 00:25:41,966 --> 00:25:43,400 was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was. 439 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,000 And the-the... some of these farmers were down 440 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:49,733 digging a ditch around the... around the hamlet. 441 00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:53,166 And I looked at their faces and they were really angry. 442 00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:56,500 I mean it was very obvious to me 443 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,433 that if these people could, they'd cut our throats. 444 00:26:03,766 --> 00:26:07,733 NARRATOR: Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes 445 00:26:07,833 --> 00:26:10,266 and move to strategic hamlets. 446 00:26:10,366 --> 00:26:14,433 Corrupt officials siphoned off funds. 447 00:26:14,533 --> 00:26:16,933 And villagers blamed the Diem regime 448 00:26:17,033 --> 00:26:20,900 for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks. 449 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,166 As the people's anger grew, so did the ranks of the Viet Cong. 450 00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:30,566 SHEEHAN: It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men 451 00:26:30,666 --> 00:26:34,100 right out of those strategic... so-called strategic hamlets. 452 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,200 And then the whole program fell apart. 453 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,000 NGUYEN NGOC: 454 00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:03,833 NARRATOR: Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Danang. 455 00:27:03,933 --> 00:27:08,400 His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools. 456 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:12,166 But he joined the revolution, and as a political officer, 457 00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:16,200 wrote poems, songs, and slogans to inspire the people 458 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:20,800 in the countryside to support the Viet Cong. 459 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:25,433 DUONG VAN MAI: The Viet Cong cadre would come in and talk to them 460 00:27:25,533 --> 00:27:30,300 and their message is usually (speaking Vietnamese), 461 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,900 which means "turn your grief into action. 462 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,400 "Do something about it. 463 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,433 "Join us. 464 00:27:37,533 --> 00:27:38,900 "We'll fight together. 465 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,400 "We'll liberate the country from this corrupt, unjust government. 466 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:45,400 "We'll throw out the foreigners. 467 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:47,200 "We'll reunify the country. 468 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:50,366 "And we'll bring in this great regime 469 00:27:50,466 --> 00:27:52,000 "that will take care of you 470 00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:53,900 and bring economic and social justice." 471 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,100 NARRATOR: The Viet Cong ran rival local governments, 472 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 complete with their own tax collectors and school teachers, 473 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:07,500 spies and propagandists, and province chiefs. 474 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,300 To make matters worse, 475 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,133 ARVN troops and American advisors now found themselves 476 00:28:16,233 --> 00:28:19,133 confronted by a new threat: 477 00:28:19,233 --> 00:28:22,400 battalions of well-armed Viet Cong soldiers, 478 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,666 as well as by local guerrillas. 479 00:28:25,766 --> 00:28:27,966 SHEEHAN: We'd armed them. 480 00:28:28,066 --> 00:28:31,400 You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong. 481 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,933 Back in early '62, they only had one machine gun per battalion. 482 00:28:35,033 --> 00:28:36,100 (single gunfire burst) 483 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,666 It was sporadic fire. 484 00:28:37,766 --> 00:28:41,666 Then, as they captured more and more of these American arms, 485 00:28:41,766 --> 00:28:43,500 when you made contact, it fi... 486 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,833 it would build up into a drumfire of automatic 487 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:47,366 and semi-automatic weapons. 488 00:28:47,466 --> 00:28:50,366 (cacophony of gunfire bursts) 489 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:58,200 RUFUS PHILLIPS: Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up 490 00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,133 some kind of a chart to determine 491 00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:04,066 whether we were winning or not. 492 00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:06,766 And he was putting things in 493 00:29:06,866 --> 00:29:09,633 like numbers of weapons recovered, 494 00:29:09,733 --> 00:29:12,000 numbers of Viet Cong killed. 495 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,500 Very statistical. 496 00:29:17,066 --> 00:29:19,466 And he asked Edward Lansdale, 497 00:29:19,566 --> 00:29:23,266 who was then in the Pentagon as head of Special Operations, 498 00:29:23,366 --> 00:29:25,366 to come down and look at this. 499 00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:29,600 And so Lansdale did and he said, "There's something missing." 500 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,900 And McNamara said, "What?" 501 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,533 And Lansdale said, "The feelings of the Vietnamese people." 502 00:29:36,633 --> 00:29:40,466 You couldn't reduce this to a statistic. 503 00:29:40,566 --> 00:29:45,133 NARRATOR: Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military 504 00:29:45,233 --> 00:29:46,600 "cost-effective." 505 00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,400 He demanded that everything be quantified. 506 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,300 In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins, 507 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,666 head of the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, 508 00:29:57,766 --> 00:30:01,000 known as MACV, dutifully complied. 509 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:05,700 He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly, 510 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,966 monthly, and quarterly data 511 00:30:08,066 --> 00:30:11,066 on more than a hundred separate indicators, 512 00:30:11,166 --> 00:30:15,666 far more data than could ever be adequately analyzed. 513 00:30:15,766 --> 00:30:19,033 (typewriter keys clacking) 514 00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:21,933 General Harkins had little use for skeptical reporters 515 00:30:22,033 --> 00:30:23,566 like Neil Sheehan. 516 00:30:23,666 --> 00:30:26,133 Bad news was to be buried. 517 00:30:26,233 --> 00:30:30,333 Harkins ignored the alarming after action reports 518 00:30:30,433 --> 00:30:34,000 John Paul Vann and other officers were sending in 519 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,066 from the field. 520 00:30:36,166 --> 00:30:39,133 DONALD GREGG: I was going to be made head of the Vietnam desk 521 00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:41,200 at CIA headquarters. 522 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:44,533 And the first person of importance that I met 523 00:30:44,633 --> 00:30:46,833 was General Harkins. 524 00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:49,366 And he started out by saying, 525 00:30:49,466 --> 00:30:52,233 "Mr. Gregg, I don't care what you hear from anybody else, 526 00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,633 "I can tell you without a doubt we're going to be out of here 527 00:30:54,733 --> 00:30:56,533 with a military victory in six months." 528 00:30:58,033 --> 00:30:59,966 JAMES MOSSMAN: The country's 12 million peasants 529 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:02,666 can scarcely remember what peace was like. 530 00:31:02,766 --> 00:31:04,600 They're caught between the predatory guerrillas 531 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,200 and the almost equally demanding soldiery. 532 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,600 Their lives are lived in a state of permanent uncertainty, 533 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,300 punctuated by bouts of violence 534 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,833 as government forces come to grips 535 00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:16,166 with the black-clad communist rebel forces 536 00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:17,600 called the Viet Cong. 537 00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:24,833 HUY DUC: 538 00:32:03,733 --> 00:32:07,100 NGUYEN NGOC: 539 00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:52,233 CAO XUAN DAI: 540 00:33:15,566 --> 00:33:19,800 On our side we were not as committed 541 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:21,733 and we were... 542 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:25,066 our leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 543 00:33:25,166 --> 00:33:30,133 And so deep down we'll always have this fear, 544 00:33:30,233 --> 00:33:35,800 this suspicion that in the end it'll be the communists who won. 545 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,366 TOM VALLELY: When John Kennedy assembled 546 00:33:39,466 --> 00:33:41,500 what he thinks is the best and the brightest, 547 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,766 20 years before that in a cave in the northern part 548 00:33:47,866 --> 00:33:50,433 of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together 549 00:33:50,533 --> 00:33:51,933 his best and the brightest. 550 00:33:52,033 --> 00:33:55,100 And these guys are at it for a while. 551 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,733 And when we show up, they were far along 552 00:33:58,833 --> 00:34:04,700 to consolidating their victory over this inevitable conflict 553 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,333 between Ho Chi Minh and John F. Kennedy's vision. 554 00:34:09,433 --> 00:34:14,500 The more you think about the American strategy, 555 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,200 the more you know 556 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,066 that it was never going to work out particularly well. 557 00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:41,600 RHEAULT: I was at my top of my game when I was in combat. 558 00:34:46,566 --> 00:34:49,633 You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear 559 00:34:49,733 --> 00:34:51,700 because other people's lives depend upon 560 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,100 you keeping your head cold. 561 00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:04,833 You know, when something goes wrong, 562 00:35:04,933 --> 00:35:06,233 they call it emotional numbing. 563 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:08,600 It's not very good in civilian life, 564 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,900 but it's pretty useful in combat. 565 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200 To be able to get absolutely very cold 566 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:30,466 about what needs to be done and to stick with it. 567 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:39,233 To me it's, it's a little bit distressing to realize 568 00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:41,000 that I was at my best 569 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,766 doing something as terrible as war. 570 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:55,700 MOSSMAN: President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia 571 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,633 on saving South Vietnam from communism. 572 00:35:58,733 --> 00:36:01,133 As the army makes the sweep towards the village 573 00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:03,033 suspected of harboring Viet Cong, 574 00:36:03,133 --> 00:36:06,233 it can't tell whether it will meet resistance. 575 00:36:12,466 --> 00:36:14,666 The troops round up all the young men they can find, 576 00:36:14,766 --> 00:36:17,833 since they can't tell who is a communist just by looking. 577 00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:23,000 Those who try to run for it are shot 578 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,033 on the assumption they have something to hide. 579 00:36:30,066 --> 00:36:33,700 TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English): 580 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:21,566 NARRATOR: Each of South Vietnam's 44 provinces had its own chief. 581 00:37:21,666 --> 00:37:24,466 Some were simply political appointees, 582 00:37:24,566 --> 00:37:27,333 corrupt allies of President Diem. 583 00:37:27,433 --> 00:37:33,066 Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief of Kien Hoa, was different. 584 00:37:33,166 --> 00:37:38,000 A privileged judge's son from the old imperial city of Hue, 585 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:41,066 he and two of his brothers had fought against the French 586 00:37:41,166 --> 00:37:42,533 with the Viet Minh. 587 00:37:42,633 --> 00:37:46,633 But he had refused to join the Communist Party; 588 00:37:46,733 --> 00:37:49,666 he admired their dedication, but disliked the way 589 00:37:49,766 --> 00:37:52,900 they punished those who dared differ with them. 590 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,966 Instead, he left the Viet Minh, 591 00:37:56,066 --> 00:37:59,200 became a major in the army fighting against them, 592 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:03,166 and eventually so impressed Diem with his insider's knowledge 593 00:38:03,266 --> 00:38:07,100 of communist tactics that he was promoted to colonel 594 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:13,033 and made chief of Kien Hoa, a Viet Cong stronghold. 595 00:38:13,133 --> 00:38:16,800 PHILLIPS: He was absolutely incorruptible. 596 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:21,866 And people came to really understand that here's a guy 597 00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:24,966 who's, even though it's not an elected system, 598 00:38:25,066 --> 00:38:27,900 who never... nevertheless really represents us. 599 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,500 NARRATOR: "Give me a budget that equals the cost 600 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,800 of one American helicopter," Chau liked to say, 601 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:38,533 "and I'll give you a pacified province. 602 00:38:38,633 --> 00:38:42,700 "With that much money, I can raise the standard of living 603 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,300 "of the rice farmers, 604 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,100 "and government officials can be paid enough 605 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,900 so they won't think it necessary to steal." 606 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,466 Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong, 607 00:38:53,566 --> 00:38:56,233 he sought to persuade them. 608 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,800 TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English): 609 00:39:47,433 --> 00:39:51,533 ("Walk, Don't Run" by the Ventures playing) 610 00:39:51,633 --> 00:39:55,233 NARRATOR: Back home, Americans were paying little attention 611 00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:57,500 to what was happening in Vietnam. 612 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,333 They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies 613 00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:02,533 andGunsm oke on TV, 614 00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:05,566 were interested in whether the Yankees would win 615 00:40:05,666 --> 00:40:07,066 the World Series again 616 00:40:07,166 --> 00:40:11,300 and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe. 617 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,500 ("Stand By Me" by Ben E. King playing) 618 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000 But some Americans had been growing impatient 619 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,366 with the slow pace of social change. 620 00:40:20,466 --> 00:40:22,100 BILL ZIMMERMAN: We were told in the '50s 621 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,900 that we lived in the best country in the world. 622 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,400 In the middle of, you know, trying to figure out 623 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:30,733 what it meant to be a citizen of the... 624 00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:33,166 of this best country in the world, 625 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,066 suddenly the civil rights movement exploded 626 00:40:35,166 --> 00:40:37,100 into our consciousness. 627 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,333 BEN E. KING: ♪ When the night has come... 628 00:40:43,433 --> 00:40:45,266 ZIMMERMAN: We didn't think we had any power. 629 00:40:45,366 --> 00:40:48,500 We didn't think we could be actors in history, 630 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,200 that we could affect things. 631 00:40:53,433 --> 00:40:56,500 KING: ♪ No, I won't be afraid 632 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,433 ♪ Oh, I won't... 633 00:40:58,533 --> 00:41:00,266 ZIMMERMAN: And suddenly, you know, 634 00:41:00,366 --> 00:41:02,266 these young black students in the South 635 00:41:02,366 --> 00:41:03,966 were doing exactly that. 636 00:41:04,066 --> 00:41:07,133 And it just blew the tops of our heads off. 637 00:41:07,233 --> 00:41:12,866 KING: ♪ So darling, darling, stand by me ♪ 638 00:41:12,966 --> 00:41:17,300 ♪ Oh, stand by me 639 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,566 ♪ Oh, stand, stand by me 640 00:41:22,666 --> 00:41:25,433 ♪ Stand by me 641 00:41:25,533 --> 00:41:28,200 ♪ If the sky that we look upon... ♪ 642 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:31,700 NARRATOR: Other Americans were concerned about the proliferation 643 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,033 of nuclear weapons in the world. 644 00:41:35,133 --> 00:41:39,033 Perhaps it would be a good thing to put Khrushchev and Kennedy 645 00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:42,933 on an island and not let either one of them off 646 00:41:43,033 --> 00:41:45,300 until they came to an agreement. 647 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,766 KING: ♪ Stand by me 648 00:41:47,866 --> 00:41:52,700 ♪ And darling, darling, stand by me. ♪ 649 00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:00,333 (bicycle bells ring, motors rumble) 650 00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:11,200 SHEEHAN: And if you were in a cafe when Diem was giving a speech, 651 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:13,066 somebody would get up and shut the radio off, 652 00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:14,933 it would be coming in over the radio. 653 00:42:15,033 --> 00:42:17,333 Somebody would get up and they'd just shut the radio off. 654 00:42:17,433 --> 00:42:21,600 I mean, he was not connected with... to his own population. 655 00:42:24,566 --> 00:42:29,466 PHAN QUANG TUE: Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was. 656 00:42:29,566 --> 00:42:33,333 South Vietnam, in the competition against the North, 657 00:42:33,433 --> 00:42:38,500 that should been, should have been a golden opportunity 658 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,900 to have that society open with the free press, 659 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000 free expression. 660 00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,833 But there was not much choice 661 00:42:48,933 --> 00:42:53,333 if the two system are structurally dictator 662 00:42:53,433 --> 00:42:54,733 and oppressive systems-- 663 00:42:54,833 --> 00:43:01,166 one under the Communist Party, one under a family. 664 00:43:02,266 --> 00:43:04,800 CHAU (speaking English): 665 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:21,700 NARRATOR: Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had been the architect 666 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,200 of the strategic hamlet program, 667 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:28,433 ran a personal political party that mirrored the techniques 668 00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:31,000 and the ruthlessness of the communists, 669 00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:35,266 and supervised a host of internal security units 670 00:43:35,366 --> 00:43:39,500 that spied on and seized enemies of the regime. 671 00:43:41,366 --> 00:43:43,466 Some reporters who probed too deeply 672 00:43:43,566 --> 00:43:45,966 into what Diem and Nhu were doing 673 00:43:46,066 --> 00:43:48,233 were ordered out of the country. 674 00:43:48,333 --> 00:43:49,266 (gunshot) 675 00:43:49,366 --> 00:43:51,766 When an American journalist objected, 676 00:43:51,866 --> 00:43:55,933 Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him Vietnam had no use 677 00:43:56,033 --> 00:43:58,666 for "your crazy freedoms." 678 00:44:00,133 --> 00:44:02,000 Meanwhile, out in the countryside, 679 00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:06,266 John Paul Vann and other advisors had begun to notice 680 00:44:06,366 --> 00:44:10,100 that the corruption within Diem's regime had filtered down 681 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,133 to the commanders in the field. 682 00:44:12,233 --> 00:44:17,233 Troops, who had once been willing to engage the enemy, 683 00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:21,366 now seemed strangely reluctant. 684 00:44:21,466 --> 00:44:26,266 God, I was told so many times, "(speaking Vietnamese)." 685 00:44:26,366 --> 00:44:28,266 You know, "Scanlon, (speaking Vietnamese)." 686 00:44:28,366 --> 00:44:29,466 Um... 687 00:44:29,566 --> 00:44:34,766 very dangerous, you know, going out there. 688 00:44:34,866 --> 00:44:37,600 NEIL SHEEHAN: John Vann would go out with them at night. 689 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:41,800 And he noticed that somebody would always cough 690 00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:45,233 or make some other slight noise when it turned out 691 00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:47,733 that the Viet Cong were heading into the ambush site. 692 00:44:47,833 --> 00:44:49,566 They did not want to get in a fight. 693 00:44:49,666 --> 00:44:52,866 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese officers were chosen 694 00:44:52,966 --> 00:44:56,433 less for their combat skill than for their loyalty 695 00:44:56,533 --> 00:45:00,500 to President Diem, and their men knew it. 696 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,133 RHEAULT: What we should've done is 697 00:45:03,233 --> 00:45:07,800 either forced the Vietnamese-- I mean really forced them-- 698 00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:10,000 to clean up their act. 699 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,133 And if they wouldn't clean up their act to say, 700 00:45:12,233 --> 00:45:14,633 "We're out of here. 701 00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:17,533 "Because we don't bet on losing horses. 702 00:45:17,633 --> 00:45:20,033 "This is a losing horse. 703 00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:22,400 You are not going to win this insurgency." 704 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,233 We, as Americans, should have understood the desire 705 00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:28,800 of the Vietnamese people to have their own country. 706 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:31,900 I mean we did the same thing to the Brits. 707 00:45:37,533 --> 00:45:42,366 NARRATOR: In October of 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union 708 00:45:42,466 --> 00:45:45,233 came closer than they would ever come again 709 00:45:45,333 --> 00:45:48,000 to mutually assured destruction. 710 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,100 Good evening, my fellow citizens. 711 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,166 This government, as promised, has maintained 712 00:45:55,266 --> 00:45:59,100 the closest surveillance of the Soviet military buildup 713 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,000 on the island of Cuba. 714 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,033 Within the past week, 715 00:46:04,133 --> 00:46:07,433 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 716 00:46:07,533 --> 00:46:10,933 that a series of offensive missile sites 717 00:46:11,033 --> 00:46:16,066 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 718 00:46:16,166 --> 00:46:19,366 NARRATOR: The Soviets had secretly placed nuclear missiles 719 00:46:19,466 --> 00:46:22,500 90 miles from the United States. 720 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,500 The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged President Kennedy to bomb Cuba. 721 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,733 He resisted and instead ordered a naval blockade 722 00:46:31,833 --> 00:46:36,233 to stop Soviet ships from resupplying the island. 723 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,200 For 13 excruciating days, the world held its breath. 724 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,833 Finally, in exchange for a private pledge 725 00:46:49,933 --> 00:46:52,633 to remove American missiles from Turkey, 726 00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:56,333 Khrushchev agreed to remove his missiles from Cuba. 727 00:46:59,166 --> 00:47:02,166 Neither the United States nor the Soviet Union 728 00:47:02,266 --> 00:47:06,300 wanted so direct a confrontation ever again. 729 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,800 From now on, limited wars, 730 00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:11,400 like the growing conflict in Vietnam, 731 00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:15,000 would assume still greater importance. 732 00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:22,800 MUSGRAVE: I'd grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud. 733 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:26,933 And I remember the... watching President Kennedy speak 734 00:47:27,033 --> 00:47:28,600 during the Cuban Missile Crisis 735 00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:30,900 and wondering if I was ever gonna kiss a girl. 736 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,866 And so this was just continuing that battle 737 00:47:33,966 --> 00:47:35,733 against the Russians. 738 00:47:35,833 --> 00:47:39,366 Only we were fighting, you know, their, their proxies, 739 00:47:39,466 --> 00:47:42,900 the Vietnamese there-- but it was monolithic communism. 740 00:47:44,266 --> 00:47:47,133 It didn't matter to me where it was, I was going to go 741 00:47:47,233 --> 00:47:51,300 if my government said we needed to be there. 742 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,333 We were probably the last kids of any generation 743 00:47:54,433 --> 00:47:55,666 that actually believed 744 00:47:55,766 --> 00:47:57,500 our government would never lie to us. 745 00:48:02,833 --> 00:48:05,133 SHEEHAN: We had been writing stories about all the flaws 746 00:48:05,233 --> 00:48:08,066 on the Saigon side-- about how they wouldn't fight, 747 00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:10,900 about the corruption, they wouldn't obey orders, 748 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,533 the disorganization. 749 00:48:14,466 --> 00:48:19,000 And then all of a sudden the Viet Cong, for the first time, 750 00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,466 the "raggedy-ass little bastards" 751 00:48:20,566 --> 00:48:23,366 as the Harkins's people in Saigon called them, 752 00:48:23,466 --> 00:48:25,000 stood and fought. 753 00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:27,366 And suddenly all the flaws on the Saigon side 754 00:48:27,466 --> 00:48:29,766 were illuminated by this. 755 00:48:29,866 --> 00:48:33,066 Like a star shell, it illuminated the battlefield. 756 00:48:33,166 --> 00:48:34,633 Everything came out. 757 00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:39,200 NARRATOR: A few days after Christmas 1962, 758 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,766 the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture 759 00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:44,966 a Viet Cong radio transmitter 760 00:48:45,066 --> 00:48:49,700 broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles southwest of Saigon 761 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,766 in a village called Tan Thoi. 762 00:48:52,866 --> 00:48:55,600 The village was surrounded by rice paddies. 763 00:48:55,700 --> 00:49:01,700 An irrigation dike linked it to a neighboring hamlet-- Ap Bac. 764 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,133 Intelligence suggested no more than 120 guerrillas 765 00:49:06,233 --> 00:49:08,566 were guarding the transmitter. 766 00:49:08,666 --> 00:49:12,000 John Paul Vann helped draw up what seemed to be 767 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:14,533 a foolproof plan of attack. 768 00:49:14,633 --> 00:49:18,866 Supported by helicopters and armored personnel carriers, 769 00:49:18,966 --> 00:49:22,833 some 1,200 South Vietnamese troops would attack the village 770 00:49:22,933 --> 00:49:24,766 from three sides. 771 00:49:24,866 --> 00:49:27,733 When the surviving Viet Cong tried to flee through the gap 772 00:49:27,833 --> 00:49:31,766 left open for them, as they always had whenever outnumbered 773 00:49:31,866 --> 00:49:34,066 and confronted by modern weapons, 774 00:49:34,166 --> 00:49:37,666 artillery and airstrikes would destroy them. 775 00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:42,233 Vann would observe the fighting from a spotter plane. 776 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:47,933 But the intelligence underlying it all turned out to be wrong. 777 00:49:48,033 --> 00:49:53,566 There were more than 340 Viet Cong, not 120, in the area. 778 00:49:53,666 --> 00:49:56,600 Communist spies had tipped them off 779 00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,800 that they were soon to be attacked. 780 00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:02,966 And this time they would not flee without a fight. 781 00:50:05,433 --> 00:50:08,166 Among them was Le Quan Cong, 782 00:50:08,266 --> 00:50:12,700 who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12. 783 00:50:27,166 --> 00:50:32,233 NARRATOR: At 6:35 in the morning on January 2, 1963, 784 00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:35,633 ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company 785 00:50:35,733 --> 00:50:39,100 to a spot just north of Tan Thoi. 786 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000 They met no resistance. 787 00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:48,666 Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese Civil Guard battalions 788 00:50:48,766 --> 00:50:52,066 approached Ap Bac from the South on foot. 789 00:50:55,066 --> 00:50:58,733 The Viet Cong commander let the Civil Guards get within 100 feet 790 00:50:58,833 --> 00:51:01,400 before giving the order to fire. 791 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,666 Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. 792 00:51:10,633 --> 00:51:13,700 Survivors hid behind a dike. 793 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,533 (gunfire) 794 00:51:16,633 --> 00:51:18,466 Ten more helicopters, 795 00:51:18,566 --> 00:51:22,266 filled with troops and escorted by five helicopter gunships, 796 00:51:22,366 --> 00:51:23,633 roared in to help. 797 00:51:25,166 --> 00:51:27,133 LE QUAN CONG: 798 00:51:50,466 --> 00:51:54,766 NARRATOR: Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft. 799 00:51:54,866 --> 00:52:00,233 Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen. 800 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,866 LE QUAN CONG: 801 00:52:09,933 --> 00:52:12,300 NARRATOR: The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN 802 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,466 struggling to get out of the downed helicopters. 803 00:52:15,566 --> 00:52:18,533 "It was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong," 804 00:52:18,633 --> 00:52:20,566 an American crewman remembered. 805 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:25,900 Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead. 806 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400 He radioed the ARVN commander, 807 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:32,600 urging him to send an APC unit to rescue the men. 808 00:52:33,933 --> 00:52:36,500 SCANLON: I got the word from John Vann 809 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,400 that American helicopters were down. 810 00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:41,866 They were right in front of the Viet Cong positions. 811 00:52:41,966 --> 00:52:45,266 We had Americans killed and wounded 812 00:52:45,366 --> 00:52:47,433 and we had to get over there right away. 813 00:52:47,533 --> 00:52:51,433 NARRATOR: Like Vann, Captain Scanlon was only an advisor. 814 00:52:51,533 --> 00:52:54,966 Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart, 815 00:52:55,066 --> 00:52:57,766 would have to give the order to advance. 816 00:52:57,866 --> 00:53:01,100 Scanlon liked and admired him. 817 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,633 SCANLON: I turned to Ba and said, 818 00:53:03,733 --> 00:53:06,400 "Hey, you know, you got to get over there right away." 819 00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:11,000 And Ba said to me, "I'm not going." 820 00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,466 NARRATOR: Ba's superiors within the ARVN, far from the battlefield, 821 00:53:14,566 --> 00:53:17,633 had told him to stay put. 822 00:53:17,733 --> 00:53:21,666 And John Vann, my boss, was, uh, screaming at me over the... 823 00:53:21,766 --> 00:53:25,066 over the radio to get them over there. 824 00:53:25,166 --> 00:53:29,500 NARRATOR: It took Scanlon an hour to convince Captain Ba to move. 825 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,000 Another two hours were lost 826 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,100 before the APCs could make their way through the paddies 827 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,400 toward the trapped men. 828 00:53:39,366 --> 00:53:41,633 The firing had died down. 829 00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:43,633 SCANLON: Everything was quiet. 830 00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:46,433 You could see the open expanse of rice fields. 831 00:53:46,533 --> 00:53:49,833 And my reaction was, hey, it was all over. 832 00:53:49,933 --> 00:53:53,133 NARRATOR: The first two APCs dropped their ramps. 833 00:53:53,233 --> 00:53:55,600 Infantry squads stepped out, 834 00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:58,666 prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire 835 00:53:58,766 --> 00:53:59,966 as they advanced. 836 00:54:00,066 --> 00:54:02,766 In the past, that had been enough 837 00:54:02,866 --> 00:54:06,200 to make the Viet Cong scurry away. 838 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,566 This time was different. 839 00:54:12,266 --> 00:54:14,266 Eight of the APCs came under attack. 840 00:54:14,366 --> 00:54:17,733 Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed, 841 00:54:17,833 --> 00:54:19,066 shot through the head. 842 00:54:20,466 --> 00:54:22,566 SCANLON: And boy, we got raked. 843 00:54:22,666 --> 00:54:24,400 So it was like a pool table. 844 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:25,866 We were on the green 845 00:54:25,966 --> 00:54:28,200 and they were in the pockets shooting at us. 846 00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,066 NARRATOR: When Captain Ba managed to convince 847 00:54:31,166 --> 00:54:33,733 a few more APCs to advance, 848 00:54:33,833 --> 00:54:36,800 guerrillas leapt from their foxholes 849 00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:38,933 and hurled hand grenades at them. 850 00:54:43,933 --> 00:54:46,333 None did any real damage, 851 00:54:46,433 --> 00:54:50,000 but the drivers were so demoralized that they halted, 852 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:55,033 turned around, and withdrew behind the wrecked helicopters. 853 00:54:55,133 --> 00:54:57,033 From his spotter plane, 854 00:54:57,133 --> 00:55:01,266 Vann begged the ARVN to make a simultaneous assault 855 00:55:01,366 --> 00:55:04,733 on the enemy by all the remaining ground forces. 856 00:55:05,866 --> 00:55:08,866 ARVN commanders refused. 857 00:55:11,266 --> 00:55:14,233 That night, the Viet Cong melted away, 858 00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:17,733 carrying most of their dead and wounded with them. 859 00:55:19,866 --> 00:55:23,933 At least 80 South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed. 860 00:55:24,033 --> 00:55:29,400 So had three American advisors, including Captain Ken Good, 861 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:30,633 a friend of Scanlon's. 862 00:55:34,533 --> 00:55:38,433 SCANLON: We stacked the armored personnel carriers with bodies, 863 00:55:38,533 --> 00:55:40,233 stacked them up on top till they... 864 00:55:40,333 --> 00:55:42,166 we couldn't stack anymore. 865 00:55:42,266 --> 00:55:48,366 And, um, I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans. 866 00:55:48,466 --> 00:55:51,233 So I carried Americans out. 867 00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,600 And, um... 868 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,900 And I was... I was exhausted. 869 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,866 They told me about Ken Good getting killed. 870 00:56:01,966 --> 00:56:06,200 And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions. 871 00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:12,100 And to hear that... he got killed hurt. 872 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,833 (voice breaking): Great guy. 873 00:56:15,266 --> 00:56:17,466 NARRATOR: Reporters arrived from Saigon 874 00:56:17,566 --> 00:56:21,500 before all of the ARVN dead could be removed. 875 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,800 They were horrified at what they saw and tried to find out 876 00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:28,566 what had really happened. 877 00:56:28,666 --> 00:56:33,100 John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam aside 878 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,133 and told them. 879 00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:37,000 The Battle of Ap Bac had been 880 00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,833 "a miserable goddamn performance." 881 00:56:39,933 --> 00:56:42,066 "The ARVN won't listen," he said. 882 00:56:42,166 --> 00:56:45,100 "They make the same mistakes over and over again 883 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,233 in the same way." 884 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,400 But back in Saigon, 885 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:54,200 General Harkins immediately declared victory. 886 00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:57,300 "The ARVN forces had an objective," he said. 887 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,833 "We took that objective. 888 00:56:58,933 --> 00:57:02,433 "The VC left and their casualties were greater 889 00:57:02,533 --> 00:57:05,100 "than those of the government forces. 890 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,833 What more do you want?" 891 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,633 When Halberstam and Sheehan reported 892 00:57:10,733 --> 00:57:13,633 that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat, 893 00:57:13,733 --> 00:57:17,800 the U.S. Commander in the Pacific denied it all 894 00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:23,433 and urged the reporters to "get on the team." 895 00:57:23,533 --> 00:57:25,566 SHEEHAN: Ap Bac was terribly important. 896 00:57:25,666 --> 00:57:27,833 They had shot down five helicopters, 897 00:57:27,933 --> 00:57:30,333 which they previously had been terrified of. 898 00:57:30,433 --> 00:57:34,500 They'd stopped the armored personnel carriers. 899 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,600 They demonstrated to their own people 900 00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:39,766 that you could resist the Americans and win. 901 00:57:43,466 --> 00:57:45,700 LE QUAN CONG: 902 00:57:59,433 --> 00:58:03,200 NARRATOR: In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen 903 00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:07,900 by Party First Secretary Le Duan and his Politburo allies 904 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,200 as evidence of the inherent weakness 905 00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:13,266 of the South Vietnamese regime. 906 00:58:13,366 --> 00:58:17,100 Even when faced with American advisors and weaponry, 907 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,966 the Viet Cong had learned how to inflict heavy casualties 908 00:58:21,066 --> 00:58:24,866 on Saigon's forces, and get away again. 909 00:58:26,366 --> 00:58:30,166 In Saigon, President Diem claimed the ARVN were winning, 910 00:58:30,266 --> 00:58:31,500 not losing. 911 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,866 Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback. 912 00:58:34,966 --> 00:58:36,766 And he resented Americans telling him 913 00:58:36,866 --> 00:58:40,466 how to fight his battles or run his country. 914 00:58:40,566 --> 00:58:45,566 The president's sister-in-law, Madame Nhu, went further. 915 00:58:45,666 --> 00:58:50,066 She denounced the Americans as "false brothers." 916 00:58:51,533 --> 00:58:54,333 "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam," 917 00:58:54,433 --> 00:58:58,500 President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring. 918 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,666 "These people hate us. 919 00:59:00,766 --> 00:59:04,100 "But I can't give up a piece of territory like that 920 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,700 to the communists and then get the people to reelect me." 921 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,333 (loud commotion) 922 00:59:15,433 --> 00:59:16,966 ED HERLIHY: Buddhist monks and nuns are joined 923 00:59:17,066 --> 00:59:18,466 by thousands of sympathizers 924 00:59:18,566 --> 00:59:20,233 to protest the government's restrictions 925 00:59:20,333 --> 00:59:23,266 on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam. 926 00:59:24,866 --> 00:59:28,433 SHEEHAN: Diem began by alienating the rural population. 927 00:59:28,533 --> 00:59:31,100 And that started the Viet Cong. 928 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,033 And now he was alienating the urban population. 929 00:59:34,133 --> 00:59:36,666 HERLIHY: Seventy percent of the population is Buddhist 930 00:59:36,766 --> 00:59:38,266 and the demonstrators clashed with the police 931 00:59:38,366 --> 00:59:42,533 during the week-long series of incidents like this. 932 00:59:42,633 --> 00:59:46,033 NARRATOR: In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac, 933 00:59:46,133 --> 00:59:50,800 South Vietnam plunged into civil strife that had little to do 934 00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:53,700 with the Viet Cong. 935 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,766 Religion and nationalism were at its heart. 936 00:59:57,866 --> 01:00:01,600 A Catholic minority had for years dominated the government 937 01:00:01,700 --> 01:00:04,533 of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. 938 01:00:06,133 --> 01:00:08,533 That spring in the city of Hue, 939 01:00:08,633 --> 01:00:11,566 Christian flags had been flown to celebrate 940 01:00:11,666 --> 01:00:14,800 the 25th anniversary of the ordination 941 01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:17,700 of Diem's older brother as a Catholic bishop. 942 01:00:20,833 --> 01:00:24,166 But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags 943 01:00:24,266 --> 01:00:29,600 to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha, 944 01:00:29,700 --> 01:00:32,533 police tore them down. 945 01:00:32,633 --> 01:00:35,266 Protesters took to the streets. 946 01:00:37,366 --> 01:00:41,166 The Catholic deputy province chief sent security forces 947 01:00:41,266 --> 01:00:44,066 to suppress the demonstration. 948 01:00:44,166 --> 01:00:45,733 The soldiers opened fire. 949 01:00:45,833 --> 01:00:46,733 (two gunshots) 950 01:00:46,833 --> 01:00:49,766 Eight protesters died. 951 01:00:49,866 --> 01:00:55,733 The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20. 952 01:00:55,833 --> 01:00:59,700 The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong. 953 01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:05,100 Monks throughout the country demanded an apology. 954 01:01:13,966 --> 01:01:16,266 They also called for an end to discrimination 955 01:01:16,366 --> 01:01:18,633 by Catholic officials. 956 01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:21,900 Many Buddhists had come to see Diem's policies 957 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,266 as a direct threat to their religious beliefs. 958 01:01:28,066 --> 01:01:31,700 DUONG VAN MAI: My family was against what Diem was doing. 959 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,366 My mother was convinced 960 01:01:34,466 --> 01:01:38,400 that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith. 961 01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:42,666 She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches. 962 01:01:42,766 --> 01:01:46,133 And she was just extremely upset. 963 01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:48,700 She was not alone. 964 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,600 There was a lot of people like her. 965 01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:55,633 NARRATOR: American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu 966 01:01:55,733 --> 01:01:59,033 to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists, 967 01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:01,166 for the sake of maintaining unity 968 01:02:01,266 --> 01:02:03,800 in the struggle against communism. 969 01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:05,533 They refused. 970 01:02:08,066 --> 01:02:13,033 On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press 971 01:02:13,133 --> 01:02:16,000 received an anonymous tip: 972 01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:19,266 something important was going to happen the next day 973 01:02:19,366 --> 01:02:22,766 at a major intersection in Saigon. 974 01:02:22,866 --> 01:02:24,800 He took his camera. 975 01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:35,700 To protest the Diem regime's repression, 976 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:42,200 a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire. 977 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,933 As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death, 978 01:03:05,033 --> 01:03:08,466 another monk repeated over and over again 979 01:03:08,566 --> 01:03:11,500 in English and Vietnamese, 980 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,533 "A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr. 981 01:03:14,633 --> 01:03:17,266 A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr." 982 01:03:24,066 --> 01:03:26,933 SHEEHAN: I remember they held the ashes 983 01:03:27,033 --> 01:03:29,533 of the monk who burned himself to death 984 01:03:29,633 --> 01:03:32,633 where it was kept in one of the main pagodas. 985 01:03:32,733 --> 01:03:38,833 And lines of people came to pass by, and I saw these women, 986 01:03:38,933 --> 01:03:41,900 not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women, 987 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,966 take off the one piece of gold they had on, their wedding ring, 988 01:03:45,066 --> 01:03:49,966 and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle. 989 01:03:50,066 --> 01:03:53,900 And I thought to myself, "This regime is over. 990 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,066 It's the end." 991 01:03:59,166 --> 01:04:01,766 NARRATOR: Soon other monks would become martyrs. 992 01:04:05,033 --> 01:04:10,566 Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse. 993 01:04:10,666 --> 01:04:14,133 Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said. 994 01:04:14,233 --> 01:04:16,800 If more monks wanted to burn themselves, 995 01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:20,000 she would provide the matches. 996 01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:21,966 The only thing they have done, 997 01:04:22,066 --> 01:04:27,766 they have barbecued one of their monks, 998 01:04:27,866 --> 01:04:33,400 whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence. 999 01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:37,800 And even that barbecuing was done 1000 01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:40,133 not even with self-sufficient means 1001 01:04:40,233 --> 01:04:43,266 because they-they used imported gasoline. 1002 01:04:44,966 --> 01:04:47,600 DUONG VAN MAI: They thought she was arrogant, 1003 01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:49,166 she was power hungry. 1004 01:04:49,266 --> 01:04:52,533 They suspected her and her husband of being corrupt. 1005 01:04:52,633 --> 01:04:58,900 Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people. 1006 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,200 People feared the Diem regime. 1007 01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:05,866 Perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it. 1008 01:05:08,133 --> 01:05:10,766 NARRATOR: Students, including many Catholics, 1009 01:05:10,866 --> 01:05:13,333 rallied to the Buddhist cause. 1010 01:05:13,433 --> 01:05:16,633 So did some army officers. 1011 01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:21,000 People among the military had to ask the question, 1012 01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:24,400 "Can we continue this kind of situation like that 1013 01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:27,900 "when the whole country, country was almost burning 1014 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,633 with the kind of protest from the Buddhists?" 1015 01:05:29,733 --> 01:05:30,666 You see? 1016 01:05:34,333 --> 01:05:38,266 ZIMMERMAN: I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk. 1017 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,600 We had watched the civil rights movement in the South 1018 01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:48,600 and it had set the standard for us 1019 01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:55,033 to stand up against injustice, allow yourself to be beaten up, 1020 01:05:55,133 --> 01:05:57,433 allow yourself to be attacked by a dog 1021 01:05:57,533 --> 01:05:59,866 or hit by a police truncheon. 1022 01:05:59,966 --> 01:06:01,833 And we had enormous respect 1023 01:06:01,933 --> 01:06:05,066 for people who were willing to go that far. 1024 01:06:09,466 --> 01:06:12,366 And then one day in 1963, 1025 01:06:12,466 --> 01:06:16,900 we saw on television a picture of a monk in Saigon. 1026 01:06:18,333 --> 01:06:20,466 This was an extraordinary act. 1027 01:06:22,866 --> 01:06:25,666 Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself 1028 01:06:25,766 --> 01:06:28,500 on the streets of Saigon? 1029 01:06:31,233 --> 01:06:33,633 NARRATOR: The protests continued. 1030 01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:38,566 Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened. 1031 01:06:38,666 --> 01:06:42,566 The more the Kennedy Administration demanded change, 1032 01:06:42,666 --> 01:06:46,633 the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist. 1033 01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,033 The White House announced that a new American ambassador, 1034 01:06:51,133 --> 01:06:56,266 former senator Henry Cabot Lodge, was being sent to Saigon, 1035 01:06:56,366 --> 01:06:58,833 a man eminent enough, the president hoped, 1036 01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:04,000 to make Diem listen more closely to American advice. 1037 01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:07,866 Diem professed to be unimpressed. 1038 01:07:07,966 --> 01:07:10,600 "They can send ten Lodges," he said, 1039 01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:14,633 "but I will not let myself or my country be humiliated, 1040 01:07:14,733 --> 01:07:18,500 not if they train their artillery on this palace." 1041 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,166 He did promise the outgoing ambassador, Frederick Nolting, 1042 01:07:23,266 --> 01:07:26,000 that he would take no further repressive steps 1043 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:27,666 against the Buddhists. 1044 01:07:29,433 --> 01:07:34,666 Then, a few minutes after midnight on August 21, 1963, 1045 01:07:34,766 --> 01:07:38,233 with Nolting gone and Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival 1046 01:07:38,333 --> 01:07:41,866 still one day away, Diem cut the phone lines 1047 01:07:41,966 --> 01:07:45,300 of all the senior American officials in Saigon 1048 01:07:45,399 --> 01:07:48,933 and sent hundreds of his Special Forces 1049 01:07:49,033 --> 01:07:52,833 storming into Buddhist pagodas in Saigon, Hue, 1050 01:07:52,933 --> 01:07:56,133 and several other South Vietnamese cities. 1051 01:07:56,233 --> 01:07:59,000 Some 1,400 monks and nuns, 1052 01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:04,700 students and ordinary citizens were rounded up and taken away. 1053 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,366 (shouting) 1054 01:08:12,533 --> 01:08:16,966 Martial law was imposed, public meetings were forbidden, 1055 01:08:17,066 --> 01:08:21,466 troops were authorized to shoot anyone found on the streets 1056 01:08:21,566 --> 01:08:23,200 after 9:00. 1057 01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:26,600 PETER ROBERTS: Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon 1058 01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:29,366 during South Vietnam's bafflingly complicated crisis 1059 01:08:29,466 --> 01:08:32,466 that has the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, 1060 01:08:32,566 --> 01:08:36,300 students, and Buddhists, and the United States government 1061 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,000 all trying to guess one another's next move. 1062 01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:43,900 NARRATOR: When college students protested in support of the monks, 1063 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,533 Diem closed Vietnam's universities. 1064 01:08:47,633 --> 01:08:51,400 High school students then poured into the streets. 1065 01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:54,066 He shut down all the high schools 1066 01:08:54,166 --> 01:08:55,333 and the grammar schools, too, 1067 01:08:55,433 --> 01:08:58,666 and arrested thousands of school children, 1068 01:08:58,766 --> 01:09:01,633 including the sons and daughters of officials 1069 01:09:01,733 --> 01:09:03,700 in his own government. 1070 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,866 PHAN QUANG TUE: I participated in the demonstrations. 1071 01:09:06,966 --> 01:09:13,833 I strongly believed that that government has to be overthrown 1072 01:09:13,933 --> 01:09:16,033 because it's a dictator government. 1073 01:09:16,133 --> 01:09:18,100 We couldn't stand it anymore 1074 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,866 and this is an opportunity to rise against it. 1075 01:09:21,966 --> 01:09:25,933 NARRATOR: Phan Quang Tue was a law student that summer. 1076 01:09:26,033 --> 01:09:29,933 His father was a prominent nationalist whom Diem had jailed 1077 01:09:30,033 --> 01:09:33,266 for calling for greater democracy. 1078 01:09:33,366 --> 01:09:36,866 PHAN QUANG TUE: I was and I'm still a Catholic, 1079 01:09:36,966 --> 01:09:39,200 not a very good Catholic. 1080 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,133 I don't practice religiously. 1081 01:09:41,233 --> 01:09:43,133 But I'm a Catholic. 1082 01:09:44,633 --> 01:09:46,066 I was rightly arrested 1083 01:09:46,166 --> 01:09:49,233 because I did participate in demonstration. 1084 01:09:49,333 --> 01:09:52,233 And I was interrogated 1085 01:09:52,333 --> 01:09:55,400 and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit. 1086 01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:02,500 HERLIHY: Henry Cabot Lodge took over as U.S. ambassador 1087 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,066 in the midst of the turmoil. 1088 01:10:04,166 --> 01:10:05,500 And he has reported to have demanded 1089 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,766 that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted 1090 01:10:07,866 --> 01:10:10,233 or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut. 1091 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,500 NARRATOR: In the wake of the pagoda raids, 1092 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,966 a small group of South Vietnamese generals 1093 01:10:18,066 --> 01:10:21,633 contacted the CIA in Saigon. 1094 01:10:21,733 --> 01:10:25,166 Diem's brother Nhu was now largely in control 1095 01:10:25,266 --> 01:10:27,233 of the government, they said. 1096 01:10:27,333 --> 01:10:31,966 What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup? 1097 01:10:32,066 --> 01:10:35,066 President Kennedy and his senior advisors 1098 01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:39,966 happened to be out of town, so Roger Hilsman, Jr., 1099 01:10:40,066 --> 01:10:43,533 assistant secretary of state for Far Eastern affairs 1100 01:10:43,633 --> 01:10:45,933 and a critic of the Diem regime, 1101 01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:50,066 took it upon himself to draft a cable with new instructions 1102 01:10:50,166 --> 01:10:53,000 for Ambassador Lodge. 1103 01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,966 The U.S. government could no longer tolerate a situation 1104 01:10:57,066 --> 01:11:01,233 in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said. 1105 01:11:01,333 --> 01:11:04,566 Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother. 1106 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,533 If he refused, Lodge was to tell the generals, 1107 01:11:09,633 --> 01:11:13,133 "then we must face the possibility that Diem himself 1108 01:11:13,233 --> 01:11:17,000 cannot be preserved." 1109 01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:20,733 The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. 1110 01:11:20,833 --> 01:11:24,700 Undersecretary of State George Ball read part of the cable 1111 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,866 to him over the phone. 1112 01:11:27,966 --> 01:11:30,133 Since the early 1950s, 1113 01:11:30,233 --> 01:11:31,800 the United States government had encouraged 1114 01:11:31,900 --> 01:11:38,133 and even orchestrated other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala, 1115 01:11:38,233 --> 01:11:42,633 the Congo, and elsewhere. 1116 01:11:42,733 --> 01:11:46,566 Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable 1117 01:11:46,666 --> 01:11:49,800 in part because he thought his top advisors 1118 01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:51,933 had already endorsed it. 1119 01:11:52,033 --> 01:11:54,833 They had not. 1120 01:11:54,933 --> 01:12:00,033 And somehow, because of a cable that came out from Washington, 1121 01:12:00,133 --> 01:12:03,433 Lodge decided that the only solution was to get rid 1122 01:12:03,533 --> 01:12:07,233 of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother, 1123 01:12:07,333 --> 01:12:09,766 but also of Diem himself. 1124 01:12:09,866 --> 01:12:11,933 And that started us on this whole business 1125 01:12:12,033 --> 01:12:14,800 of promoting a coup. 1126 01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:18,266 And it was not a good idea. 1127 01:12:18,366 --> 01:12:21,133 I just had a feeling of impending disaster. 1128 01:12:22,333 --> 01:12:24,933 NARRATOR: On September 2, 1963, 1129 01:12:25,033 --> 01:12:28,666 Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News 1130 01:12:28,766 --> 01:12:31,266 interviewed President Kennedy. 1131 01:12:31,366 --> 01:12:35,366 The president used the opportunity to deliver a message 1132 01:12:35,466 --> 01:12:37,233 to President Diem. 1133 01:12:37,333 --> 01:12:41,066 Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment 1134 01:12:41,166 --> 01:12:43,633 is of course the one in Vietnam, 1135 01:12:43,733 --> 01:12:46,566 and we've got our difficulties there, quite obviously. 1136 01:12:46,666 --> 01:12:51,166 I don't think that unless a greater effort is made 1137 01:12:51,266 --> 01:12:53,133 by the government to win popular support 1138 01:12:53,233 --> 01:12:54,600 that the war can be won out there. 1139 01:12:54,700 --> 01:12:56,566 In the final analysis, it's their war. 1140 01:12:56,666 --> 01:13:00,533 Hasn't every indication from Saigon been 1141 01:13:00,633 --> 01:13:02,666 that President Diem has no intention 1142 01:13:02,766 --> 01:13:03,666 of changing his pattern? 1143 01:13:03,766 --> 01:13:04,666 If he doesn't change it, 1144 01:13:04,766 --> 01:13:06,600 of course, that's his decision. 1145 01:13:06,700 --> 01:13:08,700 He has been there ten years and, as I say, 1146 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,066 he has carried this burden 1147 01:13:10,166 --> 01:13:11,500 when he has been counted out on a number of occasions. 1148 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,600 Our best judgment is 1149 01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:15,200 that he can't be successful in this basis. 1150 01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,866 But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw. 1151 01:13:17,966 --> 01:13:19,133 That would be a great mistake. 1152 01:13:19,233 --> 01:13:20,500 That'd be a great mistake. 1153 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,466 I know people don't like Americans to be engaged 1154 01:13:22,566 --> 01:13:23,566 in this kind of an effort. 1155 01:13:23,666 --> 01:13:26,033 47 Americans have been killed. 1156 01:13:26,133 --> 01:13:28,033 We're in a very 1157 01:13:28,133 --> 01:13:30,900 desperate struggle against the communist system. 1158 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,233 And I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese. 1159 01:13:34,333 --> 01:13:36,466 Do you think that this government still has time 1160 01:13:36,566 --> 01:13:39,000 to-to regain the support of the people? 1161 01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,533 I do. 1162 01:13:41,633 --> 01:13:44,333 With changes in policy and perhaps in personnel, 1163 01:13:44,433 --> 01:13:45,866 I think it can. 1164 01:13:45,966 --> 01:13:49,233 If it doesn't make those changes, 1165 01:13:49,333 --> 01:13:51,533 I would think that the chances of winning it 1166 01:13:51,633 --> 01:13:53,300 would not be very good. 1167 01:13:55,033 --> 01:13:57,833 NARRATOR: Despite the cable, Kennedy and his advisors 1168 01:13:57,933 --> 01:14:01,266 were sharply divided about a coup. 1169 01:14:01,366 --> 01:14:06,633 Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 1170 01:14:06,733 --> 01:14:11,066 and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it, 1171 01:14:11,166 --> 01:14:14,566 because, while none of them especially admired Diem, 1172 01:14:14,666 --> 01:14:19,233 they did not believe there was any viable alternative. 1173 01:14:19,333 --> 01:14:22,300 GREGG: Fritz Nolting was called in. 1174 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,833 And he said, "As difficult as they are to deal with, 1175 01:14:24,933 --> 01:14:29,866 "there is nobody with the guts and sangfroid in Vietnam 1176 01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:31,666 "of Diem and his brother Nhu. 1177 01:14:31,766 --> 01:14:35,133 "And if we let them go we will be saddled 1178 01:14:35,233 --> 01:14:39,100 by a descending cycle of mediocre generals." 1179 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,166 And he was absolutely correct. 1180 01:14:42,833 --> 01:14:45,666 NARRATOR: But several State Department officials believed 1181 01:14:45,766 --> 01:14:50,500 that without fresh leadership, South Vietnam could not survive. 1182 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,866 The debate intensified. 1183 01:14:55,033 --> 01:14:56,900 "My God," the president said, 1184 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,333 "my administration is coming apart." 1185 01:15:00,433 --> 01:15:03,766 In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge 1186 01:15:03,866 --> 01:15:06,166 to tell the renegade generals 1187 01:15:06,266 --> 01:15:08,566 that while the United States does not wish 1188 01:15:08,666 --> 01:15:12,733 to stimulate a coup, it would not thwart one either. 1189 01:15:14,233 --> 01:15:17,266 The generals laid their plans. 1190 01:15:17,366 --> 01:15:19,866 (gunfire) 1191 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:29,200 On November 1, 1963, troops loyal to the plotters 1192 01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:31,400 seized key installations in Saigon 1193 01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,966 and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender. 1194 01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:39,933 REPORTER: The battle for the city went on for 18 hours 1195 01:15:40,033 --> 01:15:43,266 and most of it was centered on the presidential palace. 1196 01:15:43,366 --> 01:15:46,833 Just after 6:30 in the morning Saturday, the shooting ceased. 1197 01:15:49,166 --> 01:15:51,033 (people cheering) 1198 01:15:55,766 --> 01:16:01,066 NARRATOR: Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church, 1199 01:16:01,166 --> 01:16:04,133 and agreed to surrender to the rebels in exchange 1200 01:16:04,233 --> 01:16:07,966 for the promise of safe passage out of the country. 1201 01:16:08,066 --> 01:16:11,533 They were picked up in an armored personnel carrier... 1202 01:16:11,633 --> 01:16:13,533 (gunshot) 1203 01:16:13,633 --> 01:16:17,733 And murdered soon after they climbed inside. 1204 01:16:17,833 --> 01:16:19,166 (gunshot) 1205 01:16:22,533 --> 01:16:25,900 Madame Nhu survived the coup. 1206 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,266 She was on a goodwill tour in the United States. 1207 01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,033 PHAN QUANG TUE: The system was overthrown on November 1. 1208 01:16:37,133 --> 01:16:39,733 I was released November 4. 1209 01:16:39,833 --> 01:16:45,933 And it was the most exciting moment in the life of Saigon. 1210 01:16:47,766 --> 01:16:53,033 The excitement, you could feel it in the air. 1211 01:16:53,133 --> 01:16:57,566 DUONG VAN MAI: I was thinking that, yeah, it's a good thing. 1212 01:16:57,666 --> 01:17:01,300 Diem was making it impossible to win the war 1213 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,866 because people were so against him 1214 01:17:04,966 --> 01:17:09,466 that the war would be lost if he stayed in power. 1215 01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,166 My father was a bit worried 1216 01:17:13,266 --> 01:17:15,366 because he didn't know who was going to replace Diem. 1217 01:17:18,166 --> 01:17:20,700 NARRATOR: Ambassador Lodge reported to Washington 1218 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,333 that "every Vietnamese has a smile on his face today." 1219 01:17:25,433 --> 01:17:29,033 "The prospects are now for a shorter war," he said, 1220 01:17:29,133 --> 01:17:32,000 "provided the generals stay together. 1221 01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:34,833 "Certainly officers and soldiers 1222 01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:38,033 who can pull off an operation like this," he continued, 1223 01:17:38,133 --> 01:17:41,466 "should be able to do very well on the battlefield 1224 01:17:41,566 --> 01:17:44,033 if their hearts are in it." 1225 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,933 President Kennedy was not so sure. 1226 01:17:50,033 --> 01:17:54,266 He was appalled that Diem and Nhu had been killed. 1227 01:17:54,366 --> 01:17:57,966 Three days later, he dictated his own rueful account 1228 01:17:58,066 --> 01:18:02,200 of the coup and his concerns for the future. 1229 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,600 KENNEDY: Monday, November 4, 1963. 1230 01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:10,633 Over the weekend the coup in Saigon took place. 1231 01:18:10,733 --> 01:18:13,500 It culminated three months of conversation, 1232 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:18,766 which divided the government here and in Saigon. 1233 01:18:18,866 --> 01:18:23,966 I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, 1234 01:18:24,066 --> 01:18:27,000 beginning with our cable of August 1235 01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:29,700 in which we suggested the coup. 1236 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,600 I should not have given my consent to it 1237 01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:34,966 without a roundtable conference. 1238 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:42,366 I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu. 1239 01:18:42,466 --> 01:18:46,500 The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. 1240 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,133 The question now is whether the generals can stay together 1241 01:18:49,233 --> 01:18:53,000 and build a stable government or whether public opinion in Saigon 1242 01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:56,766 will turn on this government as repressive and undemocratic 1243 01:18:56,866 --> 01:18:58,800 in the not-too-distant future. 1244 01:19:03,833 --> 01:19:06,133 NARRATOR: Kennedy would not live to see the answer 1245 01:19:06,233 --> 01:19:08,733 to the question he had asked. 1246 01:19:08,833 --> 01:19:13,233 He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later. 1247 01:19:13,333 --> 01:19:18,300 There were now 16,000 American advisors in South Vietnam. 1248 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:23,733 Their fate and the fate of that embattled country rested 1249 01:19:23,833 --> 01:19:29,000 with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson. 1250 01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:33,066 (distorted rock music playing) 1251 01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:48,633 SHEEHAN: We thought we were the exceptions to history, 1252 01:19:48,733 --> 01:19:50,200 we Americans. 1253 01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:52,933 History didn't apply to us. 1254 01:19:53,033 --> 01:19:55,166 We could never fight a bad war. 1255 01:19:55,266 --> 01:19:57,133 We could never represent the wrong cause. 1256 01:19:57,233 --> 01:19:58,366 We were Americans. 1257 01:19:59,566 --> 01:20:00,800 Well, in Vietnam it proved 1258 01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:03,400 that we were not an exception to history. 1259 01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:06,933 (distorted rock music continues) 1260 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:18,300 ("Mean Old World" by Sam Cooke playing) 1261 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:31,366 ♪ This is a mean old world to live in all by yourself ♪ 1262 01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:42,333 ♪ This is a mean old world to live in ♪ 1263 01:20:42,433 --> 01:20:45,133 ♪ All by yourself 1264 01:20:48,966 --> 01:20:56,000 ♪ This is a mean world to be alone ♪ 1265 01:20:56,100 --> 01:21:02,033 ♪ Without someone to call your own ♪ 1266 01:21:02,133 --> 01:21:08,133 ♪ This is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1267 01:21:08,233 --> 01:21:10,700 ♪ All by yourself 1268 01:21:14,933 --> 01:21:21,033 ♪ I wish I had someone, someone ♪ 1269 01:21:21,133 --> 01:21:23,366 ♪ Who'd love me true 1270 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:38,000 ♪ I wish I had someone who loved me true ♪ 1271 01:21:40,633 --> 01:21:47,000 ♪ If I had someone who loved me true ♪ 1272 01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:53,600 ♪ Then I know I wouldn't be so blue ♪ 1273 01:21:53,700 --> 01:22:00,266 ♪ This is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1274 01:22:00,366 --> 01:22:02,866 ♪ All by yourself 1275 01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:13,300 ♪ Lord, I find myself dreaming 1276 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,633 ♪ I found a love 1277 01:22:19,033 --> 01:22:26,300 ♪ Sometimes I find myself dreaming ♪ 1278 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,700 ♪ I found a love 1279 01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:40,000 ♪ Sometimes I dream I've really found a love ♪ 1280 01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:46,033 ♪ Someone who loved me true as the stars above ♪ 1281 01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:51,600 ♪ For this is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1282 01:22:51,700 --> 01:22:55,900 ♪ All by yourself. 105205

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