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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,033 --> 00:00:16,000 Tammy Faye: I THINK THE EYES ARE SO IMPORTANT. 2 00:00:16,033 --> 00:00:19,467 I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE EYES OF THE SOUL. I TRULY DO. 3 00:00:19,501 --> 00:00:20,734 AND I THINK YOU CAN LOOK IN SOMEONE'S EYES 4 00:00:20,767 --> 00:00:24,000 AND REALLY TELL WHAT KIND OF A PERSON AND WHAT THEIR HEART IS. 5 00:00:24,033 --> 00:00:27,166 AND SO WHEN MY PRECIOUS FRIENDS DIE, 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,667 I ALWAYS ASK IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE THEIR GLASSES. 7 00:00:34,834 --> 00:00:36,047 WHEN MY MOM DIED, 8 00:00:36,067 --> 00:00:37,834 I GOT MY MAMA'S GLASSES, 9 00:00:37,868 --> 00:00:40,234 AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY PRECIOUS TO ME. 10 00:00:40,267 --> 00:00:42,400 I LIKE TO PUT THEM ON SOMETIMES AND THINK, 11 00:00:42,434 --> 00:00:45,968 "YOU KNOW, MAMA LOOKED THROUGH THESE. 12 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:07,300 RuPaul: TAMMY FAYE IS THE FIRST LADY OF RELIGIOUS BROADCASTING. 13 00:01:07,334 --> 00:01:09,634 TOGETHER, WITH HER HUSBAND JIM BAKKER, 14 00:01:09,667 --> 00:01:12,567 SHE PIONEERED THE ELECTRIC CHURCH. 15 00:01:12,601 --> 00:01:14,601 FROM THE SIXTIES THROUGH THE MID-EIGHTIES, 16 00:01:14,634 --> 00:01:17,801 THEY BUILT NOT ONE, BUT 3 RELIGIOUS NETWORKS, 17 00:01:17,834 --> 00:01:22,067 GROWING THE MEDIUM FROM A MOTLEY GROUP OF LOCAL STATIONS 18 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:26,067 INTO A GLOBAL CONCERN. 19 00:01:27,667 --> 00:01:29,834 AT THEIR PEAK, THEY PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST 20 00:01:29,868 --> 00:01:34,968 AND MOST SUCCESSFUL CHRISTIAN TELEVISION MINISTRY OF ITS DAY. 21 00:01:35,067 --> 00:01:37,968 THEIR CHRISTIAN RETREAT, HERITAGE U.S.A., 22 00:01:38,067 --> 00:01:40,501 WAS, AFTER DISNEY WORLD AND DISNEYLAND, 23 00:01:40,534 --> 00:01:43,367 AMERICA'S MOST POPULAR THEME PARK. 24 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,734 THEN, IN THE MID-EIGHTIES, 25 00:01:45,767 --> 00:01:47,968 THEIR WORLD CAME CRASHING DOWN. 26 00:01:48,067 --> 00:01:49,267 Reporter: TROUBLES FOR JIM BAKKER BEGAN 27 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:52,133 WITH THE REVELATION OF HIS SEXUAL ENCOUNTER WITH JESSICA HAHN. 28 00:01:52,167 --> 00:01:53,901 Second reporter: TAMMY BAKKER CAME OUT OF THE CLOSET 29 00:01:53,934 --> 00:01:56,167 TO REVEAL HERSELF AS A DRUG ADDICT. 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,133 WE DID NOT ASK JERRY FALWELL 31 00:01:59,167 --> 00:02:00,534 TO TAKE OVER OUR MINISTRY. 32 00:02:00,567 --> 00:02:04,601 Third reporter: THE MINISTRY IS NOW STRUGGLING WITH A $16-MILLION DEBT. 33 00:02:04,634 --> 00:02:06,100 THE U.S. BANKRUPTCY COURT IS NOW... 34 00:02:06,133 --> 00:02:09,901 Fourth reporter: THE GOVERNMENT SAID BAKKER WAS A SLICK CON MAN, 35 00:02:09,934 --> 00:02:13,367 CHEATING HIS FOLLOWERS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 36 00:02:17,601 --> 00:02:23,400 RuPaul: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO TAMMY FAYE? 37 00:02:33,734 --> 00:02:37,300 12 LONG YEARS AFTER HER FALL FROM GRACE, 38 00:02:37,334 --> 00:02:39,534 TAMMY LIVES IN VIRTUAL EXILE 39 00:02:39,567 --> 00:02:43,934 IN A GATED COMMUNITY IN PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA. 40 00:02:43,968 --> 00:02:46,801 Tammy: OK, I'M GOING TO READ YOU MY POEM. 41 00:02:46,834 --> 00:02:48,634 ARE YOU READY? 42 00:02:48,667 --> 00:02:52,667 "LONELINESS CLINGS TO ME LIKE A SECOND SKIN, 43 00:02:52,701 --> 00:02:55,434 "THREATENING TO SMOTHER ME FROM WITHIN. 44 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:56,901 "WHY GET READY FOR THE DAY? 45 00:02:56,934 --> 00:02:59,834 "WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO MYSELF, I SAY? 46 00:02:59,868 --> 00:03:02,567 "MY BODY ACHES ALL NIGHT, ALL DAY, 47 00:03:02,601 --> 00:03:05,534 "AND I'M TOO TIRED TO EVEN PRAY. 48 00:03:05,567 --> 00:03:08,400 "MUNDANE HOUSEHOLD CHORES I DO, 49 00:03:08,434 --> 00:03:11,133 "VACUUM FLOORS AND PICK UP POO. 50 00:03:11,167 --> 00:03:13,634 "I TRY NOT TO THINK OF DAYS GONE BY, 51 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:15,667 "TO DO SO ONLY MAKES ME CRY. 52 00:03:15,701 --> 00:03:21,300 WHY ME, GOD, I SAY, WHY?" 53 00:03:36,067 --> 00:03:37,934 IT'S A LITTLE DRAMATIC, I GUESS, 54 00:03:37,968 --> 00:03:39,534 BUT IT'S HOW I FELT AT THE TIME. 55 00:03:39,567 --> 00:03:43,133 I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT I SHOULD PROBABLY BE ON BROADWAY-- 56 00:03:43,167 --> 00:03:46,334 [LAUGHS] WITH ALL MY DRAMA. 57 00:03:49,634 --> 00:03:51,400 Both:... 58 00:03:59,567 --> 00:04:05,467 WHEN SHE WAS BORN, SHE HAD PERFECTLY MANICURED FINGERNAILS. 59 00:04:05,501 --> 00:04:07,300 RuPaul: THE ELDEST OF 8 CHILDREN, 60 00:04:07,334 --> 00:04:11,901 TAMMY FAYE LaVALLEY GREW UP IN INTERNATIONAL FALLS, MINNESOTA. 61 00:04:11,934 --> 00:04:15,047 Virginia Fairchild: THEIR HOUSE WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THEM, 62 00:04:15,067 --> 00:04:16,767 BUT NOT A NICE ONE. 63 00:04:16,801 --> 00:04:18,667 IN THOSE DAYS, YOU DIDN'T SPEND MONEY 64 00:04:18,701 --> 00:04:20,067 FOR ANYTHING BUT FOOD AND CLOTHES, 65 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:24,133 BECAUSE YOU JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT, YOU KNOW? 66 00:04:24,167 --> 00:04:27,634 I DON'T THINK SHE HAD A VERY HAPPY... 67 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:29,901 GROWING-UP YEARS, YOU KNOW? 68 00:04:29,934 --> 00:04:36,701 I MEAN, WHAT DID SHE REALLY HAVE TO BE OVERLY OVERJOYED ABOUT? 69 00:04:36,734 --> 00:04:39,767 I MEAN, HELPING TAKE CARE OF KIDS, YEAH, 70 00:04:39,801 --> 00:04:41,434 BECAUSE SHE HAD TO. 71 00:04:41,467 --> 00:04:43,501 RuPaul: BUT EVEN IN HER TEENS, 72 00:04:43,534 --> 00:04:45,834 TAMMY HAD HER FAITH TO TURN TO. 73 00:04:45,868 --> 00:04:51,667 SHE HAD A LITTLE WART ON ONE FINGER. 74 00:04:51,701 --> 00:04:54,868 SHE ASKED GOD, 75 00:04:54,901 --> 00:04:57,400 AND THE MESSAGE THAT SHE GOT WAS, 76 00:04:57,434 --> 00:05:04,434 "PUT THAT FINGER IN THE COMMUNION CUP BEFORE YOU DRINK." 77 00:05:05,067 --> 00:05:06,334 AND SHE BROUGHT IT OUT, 78 00:05:06,367 --> 00:05:09,501 PARTOOK OF THE BREAD AND THE JUICE, 79 00:05:09,534 --> 00:05:12,334 AND THE WART WAS GONE. 80 00:05:12,367 --> 00:05:15,534 WE HAD BEEN RAISED IN THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD. 81 00:05:15,567 --> 00:05:17,267 AND WE ALWAYS SORT OF FELT 82 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:18,934 THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD PREACHED THAT 83 00:05:18,968 --> 00:05:20,701 GOD WAS LOOKING DOWN AT YOU FROM HEAVEN 84 00:05:20,734 --> 00:05:22,767 WITH A BIG HUGE HAMMER IN HIS HAND 85 00:05:22,801 --> 00:05:23,901 AND THAT IF YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG, 86 00:05:23,934 --> 00:05:26,100 HE WAS GOING TO HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH THIS HAMMER 87 00:05:26,133 --> 00:05:27,934 AND SEND YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL. 88 00:05:27,968 --> 00:05:35,067 Johnny Grover: SHE WAS ALMOST SCARED INTO STAYING CLOSE TO GOD. 89 00:05:36,467 --> 00:05:38,234 I STILL SAY ADA DEHREN IS HER SAVIOR, 90 00:05:38,267 --> 00:05:42,400 BECAUSE SHE WAS THE ONE THAT BOUGHT THE MAKE-UP AT THE RUMMAGE SALE. 91 00:05:42,434 --> 00:05:46,634 [LAUGHS] THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES TO TRY MAKE-UP. 92 00:05:47,267 --> 00:05:49,968 SEE ALL THIS STUFF? LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF. 93 00:05:50,067 --> 00:05:51,868 THAT'S MY BLUSH. IT'S ALMOST GONE. 94 00:05:51,901 --> 00:05:53,734 I GOT TO GO TO THE SWAP MEET AND GET SOME MORE. 95 00:05:53,767 --> 00:05:55,067 I BUY IT AT THE SWAP MEET. 96 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:56,400 MY POWDER THAT KIND OF-- 97 00:05:56,434 --> 00:05:58,901 WHEN I CRY, IT TAKES AWAY THE TEARS. 98 00:05:58,934 --> 00:06:00,267 THIS IS MY EYEBROW STUFF, 99 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,634 ALTHOUGH I DON'T REALLY NEED TO PUT ON EYEBROW STUFF, 100 00:06:02,667 --> 00:06:04,067 BECAUSE ME EYEBROWS ARE PERMANENT. 101 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:05,534 THIS TURNS PINK WHEN YOU PUT IT ON. 102 00:06:05,567 --> 00:06:07,501 SEE? BUT IT'S WHITE TO START WITH. 103 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:08,501 EYELASH GLUE. 104 00:06:08,534 --> 00:06:10,100 OH, HERE'S-- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 105 00:06:10,133 --> 00:06:12,300 OH, HERE'S MY MASCARA THAT I'M SO FAMOUS FOR. 106 00:06:12,334 --> 00:06:15,934 AS YOU SEE, IT IS L'OREAL WATERPROOF LASH OUT MAKE-UP. 107 00:06:15,968 --> 00:06:20,200 AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S MUCH USED. 108 00:06:20,234 --> 00:06:22,334 MUCH LOVED. 109 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:26,334 THEY ARE PUT ON SINGLY, 110 00:06:26,367 --> 00:06:29,067 AND, UH, WITH LOTS OF MASCARA. 111 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:30,334 THEY DON'T COME OFF, I MEAN, THEY'RE... 112 00:06:30,367 --> 00:06:33,100 THEY HAVE TO, LITERALLY, KIND OF WEAR OFF. 113 00:06:33,133 --> 00:06:34,601 AND SO, ONCE IN A WHILE, ONE WILL DROP OFF, 114 00:06:34,634 --> 00:06:37,667 AND WHEN IT DOES, I PUT ANOTHER ONE IN. 115 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,300 WITHOUT MY EYELASHES, I WOULDN'T BE TAMMY FAYE. 116 00:06:40,334 --> 00:06:44,767 I DON'T KNOW WHO I'D BE, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ME. 117 00:06:54,701 --> 00:06:59,534 RuPaul: IN 1960, AGED 17, TAMMY WENT TO BIBLE COLLEGE 118 00:06:59,567 --> 00:07:00,734 WHERE SHE MET AND FELL IN LOVE 119 00:07:00,767 --> 00:07:04,367 WITH A YOUNG, CHARISMATIC PREACHER NAMED JIM BAKKER. 120 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:10,067 THE NEXT YEAR, ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY, JIM AND TAMMY WERE MARRIED. 121 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:12,133 THE YOUNG NEWLYWEDS LIVED ON THE ROAD, 122 00:07:12,167 --> 00:07:14,934 STRUGGLING TO MAKE A LIVING AS ITINERANT PREACHERS, 123 00:07:14,968 --> 00:07:17,868 JOINING A TRADITION OF TRAVELING EVANGELISM 124 00:07:17,901 --> 00:07:21,267 PIONEERED BY MINISTERS LIKE ORAL ROBERTS. 125 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:24,767 EVERYTHING THAT'S EVERY BEEN DONE THAT'S WORTHWHILE 126 00:07:24,801 --> 00:07:26,047 HAS BEEN DONE BY MEN, 127 00:07:26,067 --> 00:07:29,601 BY WOMEN WHO SAID, "I DON'T CARE WHAT THE COST IS, 128 00:07:29,634 --> 00:07:32,501 I'M GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE GLORY OF GOD." 129 00:07:32,534 --> 00:07:34,834 RuPaul: A BLEND OF CHRISTIANITY AND SHOWMANSHIP, 130 00:07:34,868 --> 00:07:37,701 IT WAS A GROWING TREND THAT WOULD CULMINATE 131 00:07:37,734 --> 00:07:40,868 IN THE CREATION OF TELEVANGELISM... 132 00:07:41,667 --> 00:07:43,067 THE ELECTRIC CHURCH. 133 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:48,334 TODAY, IT BOASTS OVER 2,500 RADIO AND TV STATIONS, 134 00:07:48,367 --> 00:07:53,400 REACHING AN ESTIMATED AUDIENCE OF 20 MILLION PEOPLE. 135 00:07:53,434 --> 00:07:54,834 SATELLITES CIRCLE THE GLOBE, 136 00:07:54,868 --> 00:07:57,167 BEAMING OUT THOUSANDS OF PROGRAMS 137 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,901 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK, 138 00:07:59,934 --> 00:08:03,267 AND GENERATING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE. 139 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:05,200 Announcer: THE CHRISTIAN SHOPPING NETWORK. 140 00:08:05,234 --> 00:08:07,200 THE ONLY NETWORK WHERE YOU SOW THE KINGDOM OF GOD, 141 00:08:07,234 --> 00:08:10,567 WHILE YOU PURCHASE YOUR FAVORITE PRODUCTS AT LOWER THAN RETAIL PRICE... 142 00:08:10,601 --> 00:08:15,047 RuPaul: BUT IT ALL STARTED OUT WITH PUPPETS, 143 00:08:15,067 --> 00:08:16,667 JIM AND TAMMY'S PUPPETS. 144 00:08:16,701 --> 00:08:19,501 OH, YEAH, WE PRACTICALLY STARTED THE ELECTRIC CHURCH. 145 00:08:19,534 --> 00:08:21,834 WE HAD BOUGHT SILKY BUBBLE BATH, OF ALL THINGS, 146 00:08:21,868 --> 00:08:24,567 AND WE SAW THESE LITTLE HEADS ON THE BUBBLE BATH, 147 00:08:24,601 --> 00:08:27,400 AND I--I STARTED TALKING FOR THEM. 148 00:08:27,434 --> 00:08:28,601 YOU KNOW, MAKING LITTLE VOICES. 149 00:08:28,634 --> 00:08:29,868 [IN A SILLY VOICE] "HELLO, THERE." 150 00:08:29,901 --> 00:08:31,234 THOSE KINDS OF LITTLE VOICES. 151 00:08:31,267 --> 00:08:34,100 AND JIM SAID, "TAMMY, WE COULD MAKE PUPPETS OUT OF THESE THINGS, 152 00:08:34,133 --> 00:08:37,367 AND WE COULD USE THEM IN CHURCH FOR THE KIDS." 153 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,434 WE TOOK THE SILKY BUBBLE BATH, IT WAS PORKY PIG, 154 00:08:39,467 --> 00:08:43,467 WE MELTED THE EARS DOWN AND MADE A LITTLE GIRL PIGGY. 155 00:08:43,501 --> 00:08:44,467 SHE HAD TO HAVE A FRIEND, 156 00:08:44,501 --> 00:08:46,133 SO WE MADE AN ALLIGATOR THAT TALKED LIKE THIS, 157 00:08:46,167 --> 00:08:48,267 [LOW-PITCHED VOICE] "HELLO. I'M ALLIE THE ALLIGATOR. 158 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:49,734 [HIGH-PITCHED VOICE] "AND I'M SUSIE MUPPET." 159 00:08:49,767 --> 00:08:52,534 I WORKED THEM WITH MY HANDS, LIKE THIS. 160 00:08:52,567 --> 00:08:55,047 THIS WAS THEIR LITTLE HANDS, AND THIS WAS THEIR HEAD. 161 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:57,267 ♪ JESUS TAKES A FROWN ♪ 162 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:00,834 ♪ AND HE TURNS IT UPSIDE DOWN ♪ 163 00:09:00,868 --> 00:09:02,467 ♪ AND OOPS! ♪ 164 00:09:02,501 --> 00:09:06,234 ♪ HERE COMES A SMILE... ♪ 165 00:09:06,267 --> 00:09:08,167 RuPaul: SUSIE MUPPET AND ALLIE THE ALLIGATOR 166 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,267 ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION OF TV MINISTER PAT ROBERTSON. 167 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:13,968 HE RAN A SMALL LOCAL STATION 168 00:09:14,067 --> 00:09:17,801 AND DREAMT OF BUILDING A CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK. 169 00:09:17,834 --> 00:09:20,100 Jim Bakker: WE GOT A CALL FROM PAT ROBERTSON. 170 00:09:20,133 --> 00:09:22,734 HE WANTED TO MEET WITH US. AND HE SAID, 171 00:09:22,767 --> 00:09:26,167 "WOULD YOU CONSIDER JOINING THE NETWORK?" 172 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,601 WELL, THE NETWORK WAS ONE STATION, 173 00:09:28,634 --> 00:09:31,968 A ONE-KILOWATT TELEVISION STATION. 174 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,701 IT HARDLY WENT DOWN THE BLOCK AT TIMES. 175 00:09:33,734 --> 00:09:37,667 Announcer: IT'S TIME FOR THE NATIONS BIGGEST YARD PARTY, 176 00:09:37,701 --> 00:09:40,667 THE JIM & TAMMY SHOW. 177 00:09:40,701 --> 00:09:41,767 HI, EVERYBODY! 178 00:09:41,801 --> 00:09:44,601 All: HI, JIM AND TAMMY! 179 00:09:44,634 --> 00:09:46,033 Jim Bakker: WE DID NOT HAVE A SCRIPT, 180 00:09:46,067 --> 00:09:47,434 SO EVERYTHING WAS REALLY AD-LIBBED. 181 00:09:47,467 --> 00:09:50,767 I THINK JIM, ACTUALLY, WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS AROUND THE PUPPETS, 182 00:09:50,801 --> 00:09:54,434 BECAUSE HE NEVER REALLY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY. 183 00:09:54,467 --> 00:09:56,400 JIM, YOU JUST ATE MY SHRIMP UP. 184 00:09:56,434 --> 00:09:58,901 [GASPS] OH, I WAS JUST STANDING HERE-- 185 00:09:58,934 --> 00:09:59,901 SHUT UP! 186 00:09:59,934 --> 00:10:03,133 Jim: SUSIE WAS THE BAD TAMMY FAYE, 187 00:10:03,167 --> 00:10:04,501 AND ALLIE WAS ALWAYS SOMEHOW-- 188 00:10:04,534 --> 00:10:05,934 SHE HAD A SPLIT PERSONALITY, 189 00:10:05,968 --> 00:10:07,234 'CAUSE ALLIE WAS ALWAYS NICE TO ME, 190 00:10:07,267 --> 00:10:11,367 BUT SUSIE MUPPET WAS ALWAYS ARGUING WITH ME. 191 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,067 AND I MEAN, IF THOSE PEOPLE AT HOME, 192 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:15,801 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNEW... 193 00:10:15,834 --> 00:10:17,667 WE WERE HAVING LEGITIMATE FIGHTS, 194 00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:19,968 ONLY WE WERE DOING IT THROUGH THESE PUPPETS. 195 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 BUT FOR SOME REASON, 196 00:10:21,033 --> 00:10:25,400 THE SHOW BECAME THE NUMBER ONE PROGRAM ON C.B.N. 197 00:10:25,434 --> 00:10:27,667 ♪ I'M GOING TO LOVE MY ENEMIES ♪ 198 00:10:27,701 --> 00:10:31,767 ♪ DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO ARE BAD TO ME ♪ 199 00:10:31,801 --> 00:10:33,200 ♪ GOING TO LOVE... ♪ 200 00:10:33,234 --> 00:10:35,667 I MEAN, WHAT DID JIM HENSON HAVE 201 00:10:35,701 --> 00:10:39,067 BUT JIM AND TAMMY GONE BERSERK. 202 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:44,047 ♪ SO GOOD AND FREE ♪ 203 00:10:44,067 --> 00:10:46,367 ♪ SO GOOD AND FREE ♪ 204 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,047 RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY HAD AGREED TO WORK FOR PAT ROBERTSON 205 00:10:49,067 --> 00:10:53,067 ON CONDITION THAT THEY COULD ALSO START A LATE-NIGHT TALK SHOW. 206 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:54,901 HE SAID, "I'LL MAKE A DEAL WITH YOU. 207 00:10:54,934 --> 00:10:57,367 "IF YOU GET THE KID SHOW UP AND RUNNING, 208 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,400 THEN YOU CAN DO THIS LATE-NIGHT SHOW." 209 00:11:00,434 --> 00:11:01,701 AND SO PAT HONORED HIS WORD ON THAT, 210 00:11:01,734 --> 00:11:06,534 AND JIM STARTED WHAT WAS CALLED THE 700 CLUB, 211 00:11:06,567 --> 00:11:09,534 THE FIRST CHRISTIAN TALK SHOW IN HISTORY. 212 00:11:09,567 --> 00:11:12,934 Announcer: SO HERE'S YOUR HOST ON... 213 00:11:14,868 --> 00:11:17,701 HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THE 700 CLUB TODAY. 214 00:11:17,734 --> 00:11:19,901 I'M SO VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT YOU COULD JOIN US 215 00:11:19,934 --> 00:11:22,634 FOR THIS PROGRAM OF PRAYER AND PRAISE. 216 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:26,767 RuPaul: THE INSTANT SUCCESS OF THE 700 CLUB AND THE JIM AND TAMMY SHOW, 217 00:11:26,801 --> 00:11:29,067 HELPED TURN THE CHRISTIAN BROADCAST NETWORK 218 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:34,634 FROM A LOCAL STATION INTO A FULL-FLEDGED NETWORK. 219 00:11:35,701 --> 00:11:38,300 BUT THINGS BEGAN TO SOUR. 220 00:11:38,334 --> 00:11:40,167 Tammy: PAT BEGAN TO WANT TO TAKE OVER SOME OF THE 700 CLUB, 221 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,901 WHICH WAS FINE, BECAUSE IT WAS HIS STATION AND WE HONORED HIM FOR THAT. 222 00:11:43,934 --> 00:11:45,267 AND SO, WE JUST SAID, "PAT, 223 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:47,801 "YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT BY YOURSELF NOW. YOU DON'T NEED US." 224 00:11:47,834 --> 00:11:50,100 AND SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE ON AND DO OUR OWN THING. 225 00:11:50,133 --> 00:11:53,067 THE 700 CLUB TODAY IS PROBABLY 226 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:57,501 THE MOST POWERFUL OF THE RELIGIOUS BROADCASTS. 227 00:11:57,534 --> 00:11:58,968 Announcer: THIS IS... 228 00:11:59,067 --> 00:12:03,167 Reverend White: AND JIM WAS THE FIRST HOST ON THE 700 CLUB, 229 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,501 BEFORE PAT ROBERTSON WAS. 230 00:12:06,701 --> 00:12:08,367 RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE TO PAT ROBERTSON 231 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,234 ASKING HIM TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY. 232 00:12:13,267 --> 00:12:16,167 HE DECLINED. 233 00:12:25,834 --> 00:12:28,767 JIM AND TAMMY THEN MOVED WEST TO CALIFORNIA, 234 00:12:28,801 --> 00:12:30,133 AND IN THE KITCHEN OF THEIR RENTED HOME 235 00:12:30,167 --> 00:12:32,801 WITH THEIR FRIENDS JAN AND PAUL CROUCH, 236 00:12:32,834 --> 00:12:34,133 THEY LAUNCHED A NEW VENTURE: 237 00:12:34,167 --> 00:12:36,267 THE TRINITY BROADCAST NETWORK. 238 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:38,968 Tammy: JIM WAS THE HOST, AND I WAS THE CO-HOST, 239 00:12:39,067 --> 00:12:42,934 AND JAN AND PAUL WERE IN THE BACKGROUND. 240 00:12:42,968 --> 00:12:44,834 RuPaul: BUT NOT FOR LONG. 241 00:12:44,868 --> 00:12:46,367 JIM AND TAMMY WERE FORCED OUT 242 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,601 IN A BOARD-ROOM COUP BY JAN AND PAUL CROUCH. 243 00:12:49,634 --> 00:12:51,834 Announcer: THIS IS THE TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK, 244 00:12:51,868 --> 00:12:54,968 CELEBRATING OUR 25th ANNIVERSARY. 245 00:12:55,067 --> 00:12:56,801 RuPaul: TODAY, THE CROUCHS STILL PRESIDE 246 00:12:56,834 --> 00:12:58,534 OVER THE MINISTRY JIM AND TAMMY STARTED WITH THEM, 247 00:12:58,567 --> 00:13:03,267 WHICH HAS SINCE BECOME ONE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST TV MINISTRIES. 248 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,968 JIM AND TAMMY STARTED ALMOST EVERYTHING 249 00:13:06,067 --> 00:13:09,167 THAT IS NOW POWERFUL IN RELIGIOUS TELECASTING. 250 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,968 BUT AS SOON AS THEY GOT IT BUILT, LIKE AT TBN, 251 00:13:12,067 --> 00:13:14,047 AS SOON AS THEY GOT PEOPLE WATCHING, 252 00:13:14,067 --> 00:13:16,067 AS SOON AS THEY GOT THE AUDIENCE CAPTIVATED, 253 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:18,400 AS SOON AS THEY BEGAN TO GET POWER, 254 00:13:18,434 --> 00:13:21,300 THEY WERE, KIND OF, LET GO. 255 00:13:22,767 --> 00:13:23,934 RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE TO THE CROUCHS 256 00:13:23,968 --> 00:13:27,767 ASKING THEM TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY. 257 00:13:27,801 --> 00:13:30,400 THEY DECLINED. 258 00:13:38,167 --> 00:13:41,167 Choir: ♪ GLORIA ♪ 259 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,267 RuPaul: IN 1974, 260 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:45,934 JIM AND TAMMY MOVED TO CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. 261 00:13:45,968 --> 00:13:47,400 Announcer: STAND BY. 5 SECONDS TO PTL. 262 00:13:47,434 --> 00:13:50,868 RuPaul: THERE, THEY LAUNCHED A THIRD TELEVISION NETWORK 263 00:13:50,901 --> 00:13:52,767 CALLED P.T.L... 264 00:13:52,801 --> 00:13:55,100 PRAISE THE LORD. 265 00:13:55,133 --> 00:13:56,901 [APPLAUSE] Choir: ♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪ 266 00:13:56,934 --> 00:14:00,267 ♪ NOW'S THE TIME TO LIFT OUR VOICES ♪ 267 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:01,467 THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME 268 00:14:01,501 --> 00:14:02,667 THAT THEY WERE COMPLETELY IN CHARGE 269 00:14:02,701 --> 00:14:06,567 AND FREE TO CREATE THEIR OWN NETWORK IN THEIR OWN IMAGE. 270 00:14:06,601 --> 00:14:09,734 ♪ WELL, I FOUND A NEW JOY ♪ 271 00:14:09,767 --> 00:14:10,801 COME ON, JIM! 272 00:14:10,834 --> 00:14:13,300 Tammy: WE BELIEVED THAT CHRISTIANITY SHOULD BE FUN. 273 00:14:13,334 --> 00:14:14,968 WE BELIEVED IT SHOULD BE JOYFUL. 274 00:14:15,067 --> 00:14:17,367 AND I THINK WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE 275 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,567 TO PUT FUN AND LAUGHTER IN CHRISTIANITY. 276 00:14:20,601 --> 00:14:23,400 IT'S NOT A DRAG TO BE SAVED. 277 00:14:23,434 --> 00:14:26,100 IT'S NOT A BORING THING. THAT'S RELIGION. 278 00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:28,300 YOU SEE, YOU'VE GOTTEN IT MIXED UP. 279 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:30,767 RELIGION IS BORING AND DULL... 280 00:14:30,801 --> 00:14:32,667 MOST OF THE TIME, 281 00:14:32,701 --> 00:14:34,434 BUT JESUS IS LIFE. 282 00:14:34,467 --> 00:14:35,567 ♪ ...GLORIOUS, WONDERFUL DAY ♪ 283 00:14:35,601 --> 00:14:40,100 ♪ YES, IT'S A MARVELOUS, GLORIOUS, WONDERFUL DAY ♪ 284 00:14:40,133 --> 00:14:46,300 ♪ TO SERVE THE LORD ♪ 285 00:14:46,334 --> 00:14:48,601 ♪ HALLELUJAH ♪ 286 00:14:48,634 --> 00:14:50,501 PRAISE THE LORD. 287 00:14:50,534 --> 00:14:52,200 HALLELUJAH. WHOO! 288 00:14:52,234 --> 00:14:56,868 RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY'S GOSPEL OF FUN WAS FOR ONE AND ALL. 289 00:14:56,901 --> 00:14:58,467 Tammy: WE WERE INTER-DENOMINATIONAL, 290 00:14:58,501 --> 00:15:00,334 FOR EVERYONE OF EVERY DENOMINATION. 291 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:02,467 THE LUTHERANS, THE BAPTISTS, CATHOLICS, 292 00:15:02,501 --> 00:15:05,934 ALL DENOMINATIONS WERE A PART OF PTL. 293 00:15:05,968 --> 00:15:09,567 AND REMEMBER, GOD LOVES YOU. 294 00:15:09,601 --> 00:15:10,901 HE REALLY DOES. 295 00:15:10,934 --> 00:15:12,868 GOD LOVES YOU. 296 00:15:12,901 --> 00:15:14,234 HE LOVES YOU. 297 00:15:14,267 --> 00:15:15,234 GOD LOVES YOU! HE REALLY DOES! 298 00:15:15,267 --> 00:15:16,734 GOD LOVES YOU. 299 00:15:16,767 --> 00:15:19,100 HE REALLY DOES. BYE-BYE FOR TODAY. 300 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:20,601 RuPaul: PTL EMBRACED THOSE 301 00:15:20,634 --> 00:15:22,567 THAT OTHER CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS 302 00:15:22,601 --> 00:15:24,567 AND TELEVANGELISTS REJECTED. 303 00:15:24,601 --> 00:15:25,701 STEVE IS A PATIENT OF AIDS, 304 00:15:25,734 --> 00:15:30,300 AND HE SO GENEROUSLY ALLOWED US TO TALK TO HIM TODAY. 305 00:15:30,334 --> 00:15:31,467 WAS IT JUST A WORD TO YOU? 306 00:15:31,501 --> 00:15:32,601 IS IT SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENS 307 00:15:32,634 --> 00:15:33,834 TO OTHER PEOPLE AND NOT TO STEVE? 308 00:15:33,868 --> 00:15:37,701 I KNEW THAT IT WAS A GROWING PROBLEM IN THE GAY COMMUNITY, 309 00:15:37,734 --> 00:15:42,634 BUT I, AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE DID BACK IN 1981 AND '82, 310 00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:44,267 DENIED THAT IT COULD TOUCH ME. 311 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:45,267 I MEAN, WE DIDN'T SEE HOW-- 312 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:46,868 I MEAN, WHY WOULD IT HURT ME? 313 00:15:46,901 --> 00:15:48,567 I WAS A GOOD CHRISTIAN PASTOR. 314 00:15:48,601 --> 00:15:50,701 DO YOU KNOW HOW EARLY THAT WAS 315 00:15:50,734 --> 00:15:51,968 FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD 316 00:15:52,067 --> 00:15:55,467 TO BE REACHING OUT AND TO BE EMBRACING A GAY PERSON, 317 00:15:55,501 --> 00:15:57,467 LET ALONE A PERSON WITH AIDS? 318 00:15:57,501 --> 00:15:59,133 TAMMY BAKKER DID IT 319 00:15:59,167 --> 00:16:01,133 WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD DO IT. 320 00:16:01,167 --> 00:16:04,501 HOW SAD THAT WE AS CHRISTIANS, 321 00:16:04,534 --> 00:16:06,234 WHO ARE TO BE THE SALT OF THE EARTH, 322 00:16:06,267 --> 00:16:12,047 AND WE ARE--WE, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO LOVE EVERYONE, 323 00:16:12,067 --> 00:16:15,200 ARE AFRAID SO BADLY OF AN AIDS PATIENT 324 00:16:15,234 --> 00:16:18,868 THAT WE WILL NOT GO UP AND PUT OUR ARM AROUND THEM 325 00:16:18,901 --> 00:16:20,167 AND TELL THEM THAT WE CARE? 326 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,901 RuPaul: WHETHER IT WAS AIDS, DRUG ABUSE, OR MARRIAGE COUNSELING, 327 00:16:23,934 --> 00:16:26,167 PTL, AND IN PARTICULAR TAMMY, 328 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,234 RUSHED IN WHERE OTHER CHRISTIAN BROADCASTERS FEARED TO TREAD. 329 00:16:30,267 --> 00:16:32,467 THE PENILE IMPLANT OF THE INFLATABLE TYPE, 330 00:16:32,501 --> 00:16:33,701 AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT-- 331 00:16:33,734 --> 00:16:35,667 IT'S THE NEWEST ONE, RIGHT? THIS IS THE NEWEST ONE OUT THERE. 332 00:16:35,701 --> 00:16:38,467 WHEN HE WANTS TO BECOME ERECT, HE REACHES DOWN, 333 00:16:38,501 --> 00:16:41,067 HE SQUEEZES THAT SEVERAL TIMES, 334 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,167 AND THE MAN BECOMES FIRM. 335 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,467 I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC. 336 00:16:44,501 --> 00:16:46,467 NOW GO AHEAD, AUDIENCE, GO AHEAD. 337 00:16:46,501 --> 00:16:48,501 I'VE BEEN IN HOLLYWOOD, AND IN NEW YORK, 338 00:16:48,534 --> 00:16:50,234 AND I'D SEEN THE NETWORKS PRODUCE, 339 00:16:50,267 --> 00:16:53,501 BUT THERE WERE NO PRODUCERS LIKE TAMMY. 340 00:16:53,534 --> 00:16:55,601 ♪ OH, WELL, NOW ♪ 341 00:16:55,634 --> 00:17:01,801 ♪ WHO'S THAT BOUNCING AROUND LIKE A PING-PONG BALL? ♪ 342 00:17:01,834 --> 00:17:04,047 ♪ WHO'S THAT, BIGGER THAN LIFE ♪ 343 00:17:04,067 --> 00:17:05,534 ♪ EVEN THOUGH SHE'S SMALL... ♪ 344 00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:06,834 Reverend White: THE FIRST DAY I SAW HER, 345 00:17:06,868 --> 00:17:08,734 I WATCHED HER DO 3 DIFFERENT SHOWS, 346 00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:10,734 HOUR-LONG SHOWS IN A ROW, 347 00:17:10,767 --> 00:17:11,901 WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER, 348 00:17:11,934 --> 00:17:13,200 WITHOUT NOTES, 349 00:17:13,234 --> 00:17:14,767 JUST KEEPING IT GOING. 350 00:17:14,801 --> 00:17:15,834 ♪ IT'S TAMMY ♪ 351 00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:17,200 ♪ A DOUBLE-WHAMMY ♪ 352 00:17:17,234 --> 00:17:23,400 ♪ OF TURNED-ON CHRISTIAN LOVE ♪ 353 00:17:24,834 --> 00:17:26,701 RuPaul: WHEN NOT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA, 354 00:17:26,734 --> 00:17:28,701 TAMMY WAS BEHIND A MICROPHONE 355 00:17:28,734 --> 00:17:31,667 RECORDING OVER 40 ALBUMS. 356 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:34,300 Announcer: TAMMY FAYE... 357 00:17:34,334 --> 00:17:35,901 WARM... 358 00:17:35,934 --> 00:17:37,968 GENTLE... 359 00:17:38,067 --> 00:17:39,734 RADIANT... 360 00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:40,968 BLESSED. 361 00:17:41,067 --> 00:17:43,067 A GLOWING EXAMPLE. 362 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:45,200 FOR YOUR COPY OF HER MOST RECENT ALBUM, 363 00:17:45,234 --> 00:17:48,167 SEND $25 TODAY TO JIM BAKKER... 364 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,067 RuPaul: AND IN BETWEEN RECORDING ALBUMS, 365 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,234 SHE RAISED A FAMILY... ALSO ON TELEVISION. 366 00:17:53,267 --> 00:17:56,534 I WANT YOU TO MEET MY BOY-- 367 00:17:56,567 --> 00:17:58,601 JAMIE CHARLES BAKKER. 368 00:17:58,634 --> 00:18:01,667 [APPLAUSE] Tammy: WE IDENTIFIED WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY, 369 00:18:01,701 --> 00:18:03,367 AND THEY IDENTIFIED WITH US. 370 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,234 I PRACTICALLY HAD BOTH MY CHILDREN ON TV. 371 00:18:06,267 --> 00:18:10,734 BEFORE I WAS BORN, I WAS ON TELEVISION. 372 00:18:10,767 --> 00:18:13,047 IN MY MOTHER'S STOMACH, 373 00:18:13,067 --> 00:18:14,467 I WAS ON TELEVISION. 374 00:18:14,501 --> 00:18:18,834 SO MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. 375 00:18:18,868 --> 00:18:19,834 [APPLAUSE] 376 00:18:19,868 --> 00:18:21,901 Jamie: SO MANY PEOPLE NOW, EVEN TO THIS DAY, 377 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:22,968 COME UP, AND THEY'RE LIKE, 378 00:18:23,067 --> 00:18:25,801 "I REMEMBER YOU FROM WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE KID. 379 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:28,234 I GREW UP WITH YOU. I FEEL LIKE I'M A PART OF YOU." 380 00:18:28,267 --> 00:18:31,067 AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY GREW UP IN OUR HOUSE, 381 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,534 I MEAN, IN OUR LIVES. 382 00:18:32,567 --> 00:18:34,667 MY LANDS! 383 00:18:34,701 --> 00:18:37,767 Jamie Bakker: IT WAS VERY NORMAL TO HAVE CAMERAS 384 00:18:37,801 --> 00:18:39,434 AROUND THE HOUSE DURING CHRISTMAS. 385 00:18:39,467 --> 00:18:40,434 THIS WAS LIFE TO ME. 386 00:18:40,467 --> 00:18:41,968 Tammy: WE WERE PART OF THEIR FAMILIES. 387 00:18:42,067 --> 00:18:45,868 WE LOVED THEM, AND THEY LOVED US AS FAMILY PEOPLE. 388 00:18:45,901 --> 00:18:47,834 AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO POWERFUL. 389 00:18:47,868 --> 00:18:53,200 RuPaul: THE PRAISE THE LORD NETWORK TOOK OFF. 390 00:18:53,234 --> 00:18:54,400 FROM THIS MOMENT ON, 391 00:18:54,434 --> 00:19:00,047 THE PTL TELEVISION NETWORK PLANS TO BROADCAST... 392 00:19:00,067 --> 00:19:01,834 24 HOURS A DAY... 393 00:19:01,868 --> 00:19:04,434 UNTIL THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST. 394 00:19:04,467 --> 00:19:08,667 ♪ JESUS KEEPS ON TAKING ME HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪ 395 00:19:08,701 --> 00:19:10,047 ♪ HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪ 396 00:19:10,067 --> 00:19:11,501 ♪ HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪ 397 00:19:11,534 --> 00:19:12,534 ♪ JESUS KEEPS... ♪ 398 00:19:12,567 --> 00:19:16,267 WE KEPT ADDING STATION AFTER STATION AFTER STATION, 399 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:18,047 AND IT WAS AN AWESOME THING THAT HAPPENED. 400 00:19:18,067 --> 00:19:19,968 Jim: ALL OVER THE WORLD, WE WERE DOING TELEVISION. 401 00:19:20,067 --> 00:19:27,067 WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST 4 SATELLITE NETWORKS IN THE WORLD. 402 00:19:28,234 --> 00:19:32,334 Announcer: YOU'RE WATCHING... 403 00:19:32,367 --> 00:19:33,801 THAT'S WHY LATER ON, 404 00:19:33,834 --> 00:19:37,334 THE PLUM THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WANTED 405 00:19:37,367 --> 00:19:40,133 WAS THAT SATELLITE. 406 00:19:40,767 --> 00:19:44,667 RuPaul: BUT JIM WASN'T SATISFIED WITH JUST A TELEVISION NETWORK. 407 00:19:44,701 --> 00:19:48,033 Tammy: JIM FELT THAT IF THE PEOPLE WERE THERE ON THE GROUNDS 408 00:19:48,067 --> 00:19:51,000 AND COULD COME AND STAY WHERE PTL WAS AND SEE, 409 00:19:51,033 --> 00:19:52,801 AND GET IN ON THE VISION... 410 00:19:52,834 --> 00:19:53,934 THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED. 411 00:19:53,968 --> 00:19:57,400 HE WANTED ALL THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE THERE. 412 00:19:57,434 --> 00:19:59,000 RuPaul: TO REALIZE THIS VISION, 413 00:19:59,033 --> 00:20:02,501 JIM BAKKER CONTACTED HIS CHURCH BUILDER ROE MESSNER. 414 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:05,968 Roe: I GOT ON A PLANE AND WENT DOWN TO CHARLOTTE, 415 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,100 MET WITH JIM, 416 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:09,467 AND HE LAID OUT THIS GRANDIOSE PLAN 417 00:20:09,501 --> 00:20:11,434 THAT HE HAD FOR 2,500 ACRES 418 00:20:11,467 --> 00:20:13,501 AND WANTED TO KNOW IF I WOULD, UH, 419 00:20:13,534 --> 00:20:17,434 DESIGN HIS BUILDINGS AND BE HIS CONTRACTOR. 420 00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:18,834 RuPaul: WHAT JIM ENVISIONED 421 00:20:18,868 --> 00:20:21,734 WAS NOTHING LESS THAN A CHRISTIAN DISNEYLAND, 422 00:20:21,767 --> 00:20:23,400 A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR RESORT 423 00:20:23,434 --> 00:20:27,033 THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY INCLUDE A 500-ROOM HOTEL, 424 00:20:27,067 --> 00:20:29,934 A STATE-OF-THE-ART BROADCAST FACILITY, 425 00:20:29,968 --> 00:20:32,934 AND A WATER PARK. 426 00:20:32,968 --> 00:20:36,067 ♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪ 427 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:39,934 ♪ EVERYBODY LIFT OUR VOICES... ♪ 428 00:20:39,968 --> 00:20:43,267 WELL, PART OF THE EXCITEMENT OF HERITAGE U.S.A., I BELIEVE, 429 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:44,968 WAS PEOPLE WATCHING THE BUILDINGS GOING UP. 430 00:20:45,067 --> 00:20:49,400 AND I DON'T THINK MAYBE I UNDERSTOOD THAT AS WELL AS I WISH I WOULD HAVE. 431 00:20:49,434 --> 00:20:52,734 I GOT TO WHERE I COULDN'T STAND TO HEAR THE NAME ROE MESSNER. 432 00:20:52,767 --> 00:20:54,047 BECAUSE I--FOR ONE THING, 433 00:20:54,067 --> 00:20:58,267 I KNEW THAT BUILDINGS MEANT RAISING LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY. 434 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,934 RuPaul: JIM BAKKER REACHED OUT TO HIS FOLLOWERS 435 00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:02,067 TO PAY FOR HIS DREAM CITY 436 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,567 WITH AN ENDLESS ROUND OF TELETHONS. 437 00:21:04,601 --> 00:21:11,601 ♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪ 438 00:21:12,567 --> 00:21:14,167 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH... 439 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,167 RuPaul: BUT ENOUGH WAS NEVER ENOUGH. 440 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,734 AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN BUSY SIGNALS, 441 00:21:18,767 --> 00:21:21,300 SO START DIALING RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN GET THROUGH. 442 00:21:21,334 --> 00:21:23,400 RENEW YOUR PLEDGE, MAKE YOUR PLEDGE. 443 00:21:23,434 --> 00:21:25,801 WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE BUSY SIGNALS. 444 00:21:25,834 --> 00:21:27,300 NOW PARTNERS ARE SAYING, "JIM, 445 00:21:27,334 --> 00:21:29,100 WE WANT JIM AND TAMMY IN OUR HOMES." 446 00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:34,200 Tammy: I BEGAN TO FEEL LIKE PTL HAD GROWN SO FAR PAST ME, 447 00:21:34,234 --> 00:21:37,734 AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS EVEN SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH 448 00:21:37,767 --> 00:21:40,047 TO BE IN SUCH A HIGH POSITION. 449 00:21:40,067 --> 00:21:42,133 WE BEGAN TO LEAD SEPARATE LIVES. 450 00:21:42,167 --> 00:21:45,834 JIM WAS SO BUSY RAISING MONEY TO BUILD BUILDINGS, 451 00:21:45,868 --> 00:21:48,047 AND HE FORGOT HIS FAMILY. 452 00:21:48,067 --> 00:21:49,634 AND, UM... 453 00:21:49,667 --> 00:21:54,067 WE WERE LEFT IN THE DUST SOMEWHERE. 454 00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:02,734 ♪ THIS IS YOUR HERITAGE ♪ 455 00:22:02,767 --> 00:22:04,400 ♪ HERITAGE U.S.A. ♪ 456 00:22:04,434 --> 00:22:05,868 RuPaul: BY THE MID-EIGHTIES, 457 00:22:05,901 --> 00:22:07,167 HERITAGE PARK WAS ON ITS WAY 458 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,234 TO BECOMING THE THIRD MOST POPULAR RESORT DESTINATION IN THE U.S., 459 00:22:11,267 --> 00:22:15,047 BUT THE PRICE OF PTL's SUCCESS KEPT CLIMBING. 460 00:22:15,067 --> 00:22:19,334 TODAY, WE ARE AROUND $2 MILLION IN PAST-DUE BILLS 461 00:22:19,367 --> 00:22:22,501 THAT MUST BE PAID IF WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE ENTIRE NETWORK. 462 00:22:22,534 --> 00:22:24,834 SOON, I FIND MYSELF WITH A BUDGET 463 00:22:24,868 --> 00:22:27,434 OF A MILLION DOLLARS EVERY 2 DAYS. 464 00:22:27,467 --> 00:22:30,667 AND THE TAIL BEGAN TO WAG THE DOG. 465 00:22:30,701 --> 00:22:33,467 YOU KNOW, REALLY, IF EVERYONE WOULD DOUBLE THEIR PLEDGE ONE MONTH... 466 00:22:33,501 --> 00:22:37,501 IF EVERY PERSON THAT WATCHED THIS TELECAST COULD GIVE $10 A MONTH... 467 00:22:37,534 --> 00:22:40,234 IF YOU HAVEN'T PLEDGED THAT $15 A MONTH... 468 00:22:40,267 --> 00:22:42,667 CALL RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO SEND YOU... 469 00:22:42,701 --> 00:22:45,968 THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE RICE-PADDY BABY 470 00:22:46,067 --> 00:22:47,734 FOR YOUR GIFT OF $100. 471 00:22:47,767 --> 00:22:49,934 RuPaul: PTL's CRISIS RIDDEN FINANCES 472 00:22:49,968 --> 00:22:53,934 ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION OF A YOUNG REPORTER AT THE LOCAL PAPER, 473 00:22:53,968 --> 00:22:55,534 THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER. 474 00:22:55,567 --> 00:22:58,434 I HAD BEEN REPORTING ON PTL FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 475 00:22:58,467 --> 00:23:01,167 AND THERE WAS A HISTORY OF MISMANAGEMENT, 476 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,734 AND OF QUESTIONABLE SPENDING OF MONEY. 477 00:23:02,767 --> 00:23:06,047 TAMMY AND I ARE UNDERGOING THE MOST VICIOUS ATTACKS 478 00:23:06,067 --> 00:23:08,834 IN THE HISTORY OF THIS MINISTRY. 479 00:23:08,868 --> 00:23:10,300 BY NOW, PERHAPS, YOU THINK 480 00:23:10,334 --> 00:23:12,567 THAT WE SHOULD BE USED TO THESE ATTACKS. 481 00:23:12,601 --> 00:23:14,968 BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, TAMMY. 482 00:23:15,067 --> 00:23:17,047 YES, JIM. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS. 483 00:23:17,067 --> 00:23:19,133 USA TODAY CARRIED THIS BLURB: 484 00:23:19,167 --> 00:23:20,400 "PTL PRESIDENT JIM BAKKER 485 00:23:20,434 --> 00:23:22,267 USED DONATIONS TO HIS TELEVISION MINISTRY 486 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,334 TO BUY PERSONAL ITEMS, LIKE A MINK COAT, 487 00:23:24,367 --> 00:23:25,801 A SPORTS CAR, AND A HOUSE BOAT, 488 00:23:25,834 --> 00:23:28,267 THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER REPORTED SUNDAY." 489 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:31,133 I HAVE ALL THE CANCELLED CHECKS. 490 00:23:31,167 --> 00:23:32,133 I'LL HAVE TO PICK 'EM ALL BACK UP AGAIN. 491 00:23:32,167 --> 00:23:36,567 I THINK THE FACT IS BAKKER LATCHED ONTO AN IDEA 492 00:23:36,601 --> 00:23:40,067 THAT WAS GONNA HELP PROPEL HIS MINISTRY FORWARD, 493 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,767 AND IT THEN BECAME A VERY CONVENIENT WAY 494 00:23:42,801 --> 00:23:44,601 TO DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, 495 00:23:44,634 --> 00:23:46,067 AND HE MADE SOME STATEMENTS 496 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,067 ABOUT WHAT HE WAS GONNA DO WITH THIS MONEY, 497 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:49,434 THAT HE THEN DID NOT FOLLOW. 498 00:23:49,467 --> 00:23:51,467 Announcer: HERE ARE JIM AND TAMMY BAKKER! 499 00:23:51,501 --> 00:23:54,167 RuPaul: DESPITE THE ATTACKS, THE BAKKERS CONTINUED TO SHINE 500 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,200 AS CHRISTIAN TELEVISION'S BRIGHTEST STARS. 501 00:23:57,234 --> 00:23:58,200 BY SPECIAL REQUEST, 502 00:23:58,234 --> 00:24:01,567 HERE'S TAMMY FAYE TO SING WE'RE BLESSED! 503 00:24:01,601 --> 00:24:04,834 ♪ WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED ♪ 504 00:24:04,868 --> 00:24:06,400 ♪ WE ARE BLESSED ♪ 505 00:24:06,434 --> 00:24:09,267 ♪ OH, WE GIVE SHELTER, CLOTHING, AND STRENGTH ♪ 506 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,167 ♪ WE ARE BLESSED ♪ 507 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,767 ♪ WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED ♪ 508 00:24:13,801 --> 00:24:18,267 OFF SCREEN, THEIR MARRIAGE WAS FALLING APART. 509 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:20,047 JIM HAD A SECRET. 510 00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:24,067 JIM BAKKER, MEET JESSICA HAHN. 511 00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:29,901 Charles: IN 1980, ONE OF HIS RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATES 512 00:24:29,934 --> 00:24:32,467 HAD ARRANGED AN ENCOUNTER IN A HOTEL ROOM 513 00:24:32,501 --> 00:24:33,567 WITH A WOMAN NAMED JESSICA HAHN, 514 00:24:33,601 --> 00:24:35,167 A YOUNG WOMAN, I THINK, IN HER EARLY 20s. 515 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,767 AND THAT LED TO A SEXUAL ENCOUNTER OF SOME KIND OR ANOTHER. 516 00:24:39,801 --> 00:24:44,100 THERE'S A DISPUTE OVER WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED IN THAT ROOM. 517 00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:48,767 THAT DAY ALL MY DREAMS WERE SHATTERED 518 00:24:48,801 --> 00:24:52,834 AND MY LIFE WOULD NEVER BE THE SAME. 519 00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:05,167 Charles: IN EARLY 1985... 520 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,601 PTL AGREED TO SETTLE 521 00:25:07,634 --> 00:25:10,300 A THREATENED LAWSUIT BY JESSICA HAHN 522 00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:11,501 BY PAYING HER A SUM OF MONEY. 523 00:25:11,534 --> 00:25:14,868 RuPaul: ONCE AGAIN, THE PTL NETWORK TURNED TO ROE MESSNER, 524 00:25:14,901 --> 00:25:17,834 APPARENTLY WITHOUT JIM'S KNOWLEDGE. 525 00:25:17,868 --> 00:25:21,400 Roe: THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID WE GOT A PROBLEM. 526 00:25:21,434 --> 00:25:24,767 WE'VE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS LADY 527 00:25:24,801 --> 00:25:29,534 THAT IF WE PAY HER $265,000, 528 00:25:29,567 --> 00:25:31,501 SHE'LL GO AWAY. 529 00:25:31,534 --> 00:25:35,400 AND I SAID THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO THAT. 530 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:36,701 I SAID YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT. 531 00:25:36,734 --> 00:25:38,767 I SAID, "I'LL LOAN YOU THE MONEY, 532 00:25:38,801 --> 00:25:40,167 BUT," I SAYS, "IT'S A LOAN. 533 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,667 I WANT THE MONEY PAID BACK." 534 00:25:41,701 --> 00:25:44,634 RuPaul: UNAWARE OF JIM'S SECRET, 535 00:25:44,667 --> 00:25:47,734 TAMMY FAYE WAS STRUGGLING WITH HER OWN. 536 00:25:47,767 --> 00:25:49,667 JOIN THE PTL CLUB, 537 00:25:49,701 --> 00:25:52,968 AND TAMMY WANTS TO SEND YOU A COPY OF HER BOOK 538 00:25:53,067 --> 00:25:55,834 HOW TO OVERCOME FEAR. 539 00:25:55,868 --> 00:25:57,634 Tammy: I BECAME VERY NERVOUS, 540 00:25:57,667 --> 00:25:58,634 SO I WENT TO THE DOCTOR 541 00:25:58,667 --> 00:25:59,767 WITH A HYPERVENTILATION PROBLEM, 542 00:25:59,801 --> 00:26:04,667 AND THEY KNEW IT WAS A CASE OF NERVOUS FRUSTRATION. 543 00:26:04,701 --> 00:26:08,567 AND SO THEY GAVE ME A LITTLE PILL CALLED ADAVAN. 544 00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:10,868 AND ADAVAN... 545 00:26:10,901 --> 00:26:14,067 WAS A WONDERFUL DRUG FOR ME AT THE TIME. 546 00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,834 I DIDN'T TAKE MY MEDICINE TODAY 547 00:26:15,868 --> 00:26:17,100 BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE BRIGHT. 548 00:26:17,133 --> 00:26:18,968 YESTERDAY, I ALMOST FELL OFF MY HIGH HEELS. 549 00:26:19,067 --> 00:26:22,100 I WAS ON MEDICINE, TAKING MY MEDICINE, SO I'M NOT SAYING-- 550 00:26:22,133 --> 00:26:25,601 THIS WAS HER WAY OF DEALING WITH THE STRESS 551 00:26:25,634 --> 00:26:29,234 THAT SHE WAS UNDER IN THE RELATIONSHIP. 552 00:26:29,267 --> 00:26:31,234 AND SHE WOULD LITERALLY LOSE TRACK 553 00:26:31,267 --> 00:26:34,047 OF THE NUMBER OF ADAVAN THAT SHE WOULD TAKE. 554 00:26:34,067 --> 00:26:37,167 TAMMY, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO SING A SONG FOR US. 555 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,968 I'M BACK HERE LOOKING AT THE BOAT, JIM. 556 00:26:39,067 --> 00:26:40,367 ISN'T THIS A MAGNIFICENT THING? 557 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,367 YES. 558 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,934 RIGHT HERE ON OUR BEACH. 559 00:26:42,968 --> 00:26:44,801 IT LOOKS BRAND NEW. I BET-- 560 00:26:44,834 --> 00:26:47,334 I'M GONNA TAKE MY SHOES OFF AND WADE IN THE WATER. 561 00:26:47,367 --> 00:26:50,767 I DON'T THINK THAT BOAT'S EVER SEEN WATER. 562 00:26:50,801 --> 00:26:51,934 [GIGGLING] 563 00:26:51,968 --> 00:26:53,047 I FINALLY GOT TO THE POINT 564 00:26:53,067 --> 00:26:56,534 WHERE I HAD TO HAVE ADAVAN WITH ME AT ALL TIMES. 565 00:26:56,567 --> 00:26:59,601 RuPaul: THEN TAMMY OVERDOSED. 566 00:26:59,634 --> 00:27:01,047 Tammy: WE HAD JUST BROKEN GROUND 567 00:27:01,067 --> 00:27:03,567 FOR ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE GETTING READY TO BUILD. 568 00:27:03,601 --> 00:27:06,667 IT WAS GOING TO BE A FOOTBALL FIELD LONG. 569 00:27:06,701 --> 00:27:08,100 AND WE HAD BROKEN GROUND. 570 00:27:08,133 --> 00:27:10,067 THE DAY WAS VERY, VERY COLD, 571 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,534 AND NONE OF US HAD WORN PROPER CLOTHING. 572 00:27:12,567 --> 00:27:16,367 AND I GOT PNEUMONIA AS A RESULT OF THAT. 573 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,434 THEY SAID THAT I HAD ENOUGH ADAVAN IN ME 574 00:27:19,467 --> 00:27:22,047 THAT WOULD'VE KILLED A HUGE TRUCK DRIVER. 575 00:27:22,067 --> 00:27:24,767 RuPaul: TAMMY WAS RUSHED ON A FRIEND'S PRIVATE JET 576 00:27:24,801 --> 00:27:29,267 TO EISENHOWER MEDICAL CENTER IN PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA. 577 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:32,968 ON THE AIRPLANE I WENT INTO HALLUCINATIONS. 578 00:27:34,534 --> 00:27:35,701 IT-IT'S PLEASANT. 579 00:27:35,734 --> 00:27:38,567 IT IS PLEASANT WHEN YOU'RE IN A DRUG-INDUCED STATE OF MIND. 580 00:27:38,601 --> 00:27:42,634 I MEAN, YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH WONDERFUL THINGS, 581 00:27:42,667 --> 00:27:45,100 AND I SAW CARTOONS. 582 00:27:45,133 --> 00:27:46,234 BUT THEN THERE ARE TIMES 583 00:27:46,267 --> 00:27:49,334 WHEN YOU SEE REALLY HORRIBLE THINGS, TOO. 584 00:27:50,434 --> 00:27:53,300 I SAW THESE MEN WITH THESE BLACK CAPES ON. 585 00:27:53,334 --> 00:27:55,901 I SAW THEM COMING AT ME IN DROVES. 586 00:27:55,934 --> 00:27:57,334 RuPaul: ONCE ON THE PLANE, 587 00:27:57,367 --> 00:28:02,334 TAMMY TRIED TO DISEMBARK AT 30,000 FEET. 588 00:28:05,534 --> 00:28:07,067 Tammy: THEY TOOK ME FROM THE HOSPITAL 589 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,334 DIRECTLY TO THE BETTY FORD CENTER. 590 00:28:09,367 --> 00:28:11,868 I THOUGHT I WAS BEING PUNISHED FOR SOMETHING, 591 00:28:11,901 --> 00:28:16,267 AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS BEING PUNISHED FOR. 592 00:28:34,067 --> 00:28:36,868 IT STILL HURTS ME... 593 00:28:36,901 --> 00:28:41,834 THAT THEY DID NOT TELL ME THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT TO ME. 594 00:28:41,868 --> 00:28:45,968 SHE SPENT ONE NIGHT THERE AND THEN LEFT. 595 00:28:46,067 --> 00:28:48,300 ALL I NEEDED WAS TO BE EDUCATED, 596 00:28:48,334 --> 00:28:51,167 BECAUSE I'M AN INTELLIGENT PERSON, AND THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. 597 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,400 ONCE I WAS EDUCATED AND REALIZED WHAT I WAS DOING, 598 00:28:54,434 --> 00:28:57,734 I STOPPED IT AND I HAVE NEVER, EVER 599 00:28:57,767 --> 00:29:02,234 HAVE HAD TO--HAVE--HAVE, UH...BEEN ADDICTED TO ANYTHING AGAIN. 600 00:29:04,267 --> 00:29:06,047 JUST DIET COKE. 601 00:29:06,067 --> 00:29:08,701 BUT THE PRESIDENT LIKES IT, TOO, 602 00:29:08,734 --> 00:29:11,667 SO I'M IN GOOD COMPANY. 603 00:29:14,868 --> 00:29:16,434 [BLEEP] 604 00:29:17,133 --> 00:29:18,868 Both: HEE HEE HEE HEE. 605 00:29:18,901 --> 00:29:20,467 I WENT AWAY FOR A WHILE, 606 00:29:20,501 --> 00:29:25,267 AND I HAVE LEARNED THE BEST LESSON IN MY WHOLE LIFE. 607 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:28,567 I LEARNED HOW MUCH I LOVED MY HUSBAND, 608 00:29:28,601 --> 00:29:30,801 HOW MUCH I CARED FOR MY HUSBAND. 609 00:29:30,834 --> 00:29:33,367 AND I LEARNED A LESSON OF LONELINESS 610 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,567 SUCH AS I'VE NEVER FELT IN MY LIFE. 611 00:29:35,601 --> 00:29:37,334 WHEN I HAD TO GO OUT ALL OF A SUDDEN 612 00:29:37,367 --> 00:29:39,667 AND GO BY MYSELF AND DO MY WASHING 613 00:29:39,701 --> 00:29:41,601 TO A PLACE WHERE I DIDN'T EVEN-- 614 00:29:41,634 --> 00:29:42,601 WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH, 615 00:29:42,634 --> 00:29:45,000 WHEN I HAD TO CARRY OUT MY OWN GARBAGE, 616 00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:47,567 WHEN I HAD TO DO ALL THE THINGS 617 00:29:47,601 --> 00:29:49,467 THAT I DID WITH SOMEONE I LOVED BEFORE, 618 00:29:49,501 --> 00:29:51,567 WHEN I HAD TO DO IT ALL BY MYSELF, 619 00:29:51,601 --> 00:29:53,100 ALL OF A SUDDEN, I REALIZED 620 00:29:53,133 --> 00:29:57,501 THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE TO MARRIAGE THAN JUST THE SPARKLES. 621 00:29:57,534 --> 00:30:02,100 RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY DECIDED TO STAY IN THEIR HOME IN PALM SPRINGS 622 00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:03,968 AND PUT THEIR MARRIAGE BACK TOGETHER, 623 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,701 BUT THINGS TURNED OUT DIFFERENTLY. 624 00:30:08,667 --> 00:30:10,634 THE THING I REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THIS HOUSE, 625 00:30:10,667 --> 00:30:12,868 I BELIEVE, IS THE WIND. 626 00:30:12,901 --> 00:30:15,601 WE USED TO GO UP ON TOP OF THE ROOF OF THE GARAGE 627 00:30:15,634 --> 00:30:19,701 AND LISTEN TO THE WIND BLOWING THROUGH THE PALM TREES AT NIGHT. 628 00:30:19,734 --> 00:30:24,400 AND THE MOON WOULD BE OUT. IT WOULD BE SO BEAUTIFUL HERE IN THE DESERT. 629 00:30:24,434 --> 00:30:26,934 THIS IS THE HOUSE WHERE OUR WHOLE LIVES 630 00:30:26,968 --> 00:30:29,267 CAME TUMBLING DOWN ON US. 631 00:30:30,734 --> 00:30:33,200 I WAS STILL VERY WEAK AND VERY SICK 632 00:30:33,234 --> 00:30:36,234 WHEN I FINISHED THE BETTY FORD PROGRAM. 633 00:30:36,267 --> 00:30:38,200 AND JIM WAS REALLY BURNED OUT, 634 00:30:38,234 --> 00:30:39,901 HAVING TO RAISE $1 MILLION A WEEK 635 00:30:39,934 --> 00:30:42,901 TO KEEP PTL ON THE AIR, AND TO KEEP ALL THE BILLS PAID. 636 00:30:42,934 --> 00:30:45,701 Jim: IT WAS BEGINNING TO CRUSH ME. 637 00:30:45,734 --> 00:30:47,601 AT THE END OF THE DAY, 638 00:30:47,634 --> 00:30:50,868 I WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO THINK TO WALK. 639 00:30:50,901 --> 00:30:53,868 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'D HAVE TO-- 640 00:30:53,901 --> 00:30:57,300 I WAS SO EXHAUSTED, I'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW-- 641 00:30:57,334 --> 00:30:59,300 USUALLY YOUR BODY WILL JUST WALK BY ITSELF, 642 00:30:59,334 --> 00:31:03,267 BUT I'M HAVING TO PICK UP MY FEET ON PURPOSE TO WALK. 643 00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:08,467 AND SO JERRY FALWELL KNEW JUST WHEN TO HIT. 644 00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:13,334 RuPaul: ALTHOUGH JIM AND TAMMY WERE THE MOST POPULAR EVANGELISTS OF THEIR TIME, 645 00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:17,667 SOUTHERN BAPTIST MINISTER JERRY FALWELL WAS THE MOST POWERFUL. 646 00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:20,133 HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE MORAL MAJORITY 647 00:31:20,167 --> 00:31:23,300 AND PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN REAGAN'S ELECTION. 648 00:31:23,334 --> 00:31:25,534 HE PREACHED A RETURN TO FAMILY VALUES 649 00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:31,234 AND SINGLED OUT THE PRO-ABORTION AND GAY MOVEMENTS FOR ATTACK. 650 00:31:31,434 --> 00:31:35,934 FALWELL'S EMPIRE INCLUDED A SUCCESSFUL TELEVISION MINISTRY 651 00:31:35,968 --> 00:31:37,367 AND A UNIVERSITY, 652 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,334 BUT IT DID NOT INCLUDE A SATELLITE. 653 00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:44,200 HE CALLS JIM UP AND HE SAYS, 654 00:31:44,234 --> 00:31:48,300 "JIM, I HAVE FOUND SOMETHING OUT THAT I AM GOING TO-- 655 00:31:48,334 --> 00:31:51,901 "THAT IS GOING TO BE LEAKED TO THE NEWSPAPERS 656 00:31:51,934 --> 00:31:55,300 "IF YOU DON'T ALLOW ME TO HELP YOU." 657 00:31:55,334 --> 00:31:57,167 HE SAYS, "LET ME FLY OUT TO CALIFORNIA, 658 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,901 AND I WANT TO HELP YOU AND TAMMY THROUGH THIS." 659 00:31:59,934 --> 00:32:03,701 AND THEN HE BROUGHT UP THE NAME JESSICA HAHN. 660 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,047 THIS IS WHERE I HEARD JIM TELL ME 661 00:32:10,067 --> 00:32:12,968 THAT HE HAD HAD A ONE-NIGHT STAND 662 00:32:13,067 --> 00:32:15,701 WITH A YOUNG LADY BY THE NAME OF JESSICA HAHN. 663 00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:18,534 EVEN THOUGH IT HAD HAPPENED 9 YEARS BEFORE, 664 00:32:18,567 --> 00:32:22,601 TO ME, IT WAS LIKE IT HAD HAPPENED YESTERDAY. 665 00:32:22,634 --> 00:32:25,667 I LAID ON THE FLOOR AND I CRIED FOR 3 DAYS. 666 00:32:25,701 --> 00:32:29,167 I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO MY LIFE. 667 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,367 AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT. 668 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,167 RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE TO JESSICA HAHN, 669 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,400 ASKING TO MEET WITH HER. SHE DECLINED. 670 00:32:40,434 --> 00:32:43,300 SHE DID, HOWEVER, TELL HER SIDE OF THE STORY 671 00:32:43,334 --> 00:32:46,467 IN A 1993 PLAYBOY VIDEO. 672 00:32:46,501 --> 00:32:48,200 I WOULD REALLY LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW 673 00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:51,834 THERE ARE SIDES OF MY PERSONALITY THAT NO ONE HAS SEEN. 674 00:32:51,868 --> 00:32:56,501 I WOULD JUST LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW THE REAL ME. 675 00:33:03,801 --> 00:33:05,834 Tammy: JERRY FALWELL FLEW HIS PRIVATE JET OUT. 676 00:33:05,868 --> 00:33:08,467 HE SAID--HE PUT HIS ARMS AROUND ME-- "I WANT TO HELP YOU." 677 00:33:08,501 --> 00:33:12,334 AND WITH THAT, HE SAID, "IF YOU WILL GIVE PTL TO ME FOR 6 WEEKS," 678 00:33:12,367 --> 00:33:16,701 HE SAID, "WHILE THIS STORY BREAKS, WHICH IS BOUND TO BREAK," 679 00:33:16,734 --> 00:33:19,834 HE SAID, "WE WILL BE THE CATALYST, 680 00:33:19,868 --> 00:33:23,047 "AND IN 6 WEEKS, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR MINISTRY BACK, 681 00:33:23,067 --> 00:33:24,934 AND IT WILL BE LIKE NOTHING EVER HAPPENED." 682 00:33:24,968 --> 00:33:29,067 AN ATTACK ON ONE DENOMINATION IS AN ATTACK ON ALL. 683 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,601 WE MUST SHARE THE BREAD OF ADVERSITY 684 00:33:31,634 --> 00:33:32,601 AND THE WATER OF AFFLICTION. 685 00:33:32,634 --> 00:33:34,801 JIM SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE, AND SINKER. 686 00:33:34,834 --> 00:33:39,934 BUT I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG SOMEWHERE, 687 00:33:39,968 --> 00:33:42,234 AND I BEGGED HIM-- I BEGGED HIM 688 00:33:42,267 --> 00:33:45,200 NOT TO GIVE UP HIS PLACE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. 689 00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:48,701 I TOLD HIM, "GO BACK AND TALK TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. 690 00:33:48,734 --> 00:33:50,567 "GO BACK AND TALK TO YOUR PEOPLE 691 00:33:50,601 --> 00:33:52,734 BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS." 692 00:33:52,767 --> 00:33:54,133 AND JIM SAID, "NO. 693 00:33:54,167 --> 00:33:55,133 "DADDY FALWELL'S HERE. 694 00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:58,534 HE'LL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING." 695 00:34:03,767 --> 00:34:07,300 BY EARLY 1987, I HAD COLLECTED THE INFORMATION 696 00:34:07,334 --> 00:34:12,734 I NEEDED TO PUBLISH A STORY ABOUT JESSICA HAHN AND ABOUT THAT PAYOFF. 697 00:34:13,434 --> 00:34:15,367 ON MARCH 19, 1987, 698 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,047 IN AN INTERVIEW WITH US ABOUT THE STORY, 699 00:34:18,067 --> 00:34:21,767 INSTEAD OF AN INTERVIEW, WE HEARD A RESIGNATION SPEECH OVER THE TELEPHONE. 700 00:34:21,801 --> 00:34:25,367 JIM WAS IN CALIFORNIA. HE READ THIS RESIGNATION. 701 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,567 HE GOT OFF THE PHONE AND IMMEDIATELY 702 00:34:27,601 --> 00:34:29,267 A MAN NAMED JERRY FALWELL COMES ON, 703 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,534 WHICH IS A SHOCK TO ALL OF US AT THE NEWSPAPER. 704 00:34:31,567 --> 00:34:36,834 AND FALWELL HAS BEEN GIVEN BY JIM THE MANTLE OF RUNNING PTL. 705 00:34:36,868 --> 00:34:38,901 HOW CAN WE SAY THANK YOU FOR YOU GENTLEMEN 706 00:34:38,934 --> 00:34:43,200 WHO HAVE STOOD BY JIM AND TAMMY'S SIDE, AND ALL OF OUR SIDE? 707 00:34:43,234 --> 00:34:45,067 IF OUR ARMS WERE BIG ENOUGH, 708 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:47,667 WE'D JUST WRAP THEM ALL AROUND ALL OF YOU. 709 00:34:47,701 --> 00:34:48,734 WE REALLY WOULD. 710 00:34:48,767 --> 00:34:49,801 Charles: THAT STORY EXPLODED. 711 00:34:49,834 --> 00:34:53,200 IT WAS THE STORY FOR NEWSPAPERS 712 00:34:53,234 --> 00:34:56,133 AND TELEVISION AROUND THE COUNTRY. 713 00:34:58,534 --> 00:35:00,100 ARE YOU PLANNING ON COMING BACK? 714 00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:01,400 I REMEMBER GOING TO PTL 715 00:35:01,434 --> 00:35:02,801 AND GOING INTO THIS NEWS CONFERENCE 716 00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:04,901 THAT FALWELL HELD AT THE HOTEL, 717 00:35:04,934 --> 00:35:07,634 AND I HAVE TO SAY, FEELING SOME BLUSH OF PRIDE 718 00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:11,734 AT WHAT MY GOOD REPORTING HAD CREATED HERE. 719 00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:13,234 Tammy: O.J. SIMPSON WAS NOTHING 720 00:35:13,267 --> 00:35:15,434 COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD AROUND US. 721 00:35:15,467 --> 00:35:16,634 IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. 722 00:35:16,667 --> 00:35:18,467 WE JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO, 723 00:35:18,501 --> 00:35:19,767 AND THANK ALL YOU CAMERAMEN 724 00:35:19,801 --> 00:35:21,200 AND ALL YOU PRESS PEOPLE. 725 00:35:21,234 --> 00:35:23,200 I HATE IT YOU HAD TO STAND OUT 726 00:35:23,234 --> 00:35:24,968 IN THIS HOT SUN IN THIS DESERT. 727 00:35:25,067 --> 00:35:28,400 THEY WERE 4, 5 DEEP FOR THE WHOLE BLOCK, 728 00:35:28,434 --> 00:35:29,667 DOWN ALL AROUND OUR HOUSE. 729 00:35:29,701 --> 00:35:33,047 THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR US TO HIDE AT ALL. 730 00:35:33,067 --> 00:35:36,067 REMEMBER, I WAS 11 YEARS OLD WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING, 731 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,567 BUT I COULD TELL SOMETHING WAS GOING WRONG. 732 00:35:38,601 --> 00:35:42,734 SHARE WITH US. HOW'S JAMIE CHARLES AND TAMMY SUE DOING? 733 00:35:42,767 --> 00:35:43,734 WE'RE CONCERNED. 734 00:35:43,767 --> 00:35:46,133 I WISH YOU'D STARTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. 735 00:35:46,167 --> 00:35:47,734 [CRYING] 736 00:35:48,167 --> 00:35:50,634 ONE OF THE LAST THING JAMIE CHARLES SAID IS, 737 00:35:50,667 --> 00:35:54,167 "WILL I GET A CHANCE TO GO HOME AND GET MY TOYS?" 738 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,968 Man: AW, BLESS HIM. 739 00:35:56,601 --> 00:35:57,934 AND SUSIE'S DOING WELL. 740 00:35:57,968 --> 00:36:01,067 I RAN AWAY FROM HOME. 741 00:36:02,868 --> 00:36:04,567 WHAT WOULD ANY TEENAGER DO? 742 00:36:04,601 --> 00:36:06,834 RUN AWAY. THAT'S THE ANSWER. 743 00:36:06,868 --> 00:36:09,868 YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT I DID. 744 00:36:10,901 --> 00:36:12,834 RuPaul: ON JUNE 11, 1987, 745 00:36:12,868 --> 00:36:14,067 JIM AND TAMMY WENT ON THE AIR 746 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:18,467 TO ADDRESS THE PTL AUDIENCE FOR WHAT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME. 747 00:36:18,501 --> 00:36:20,334 TAMMY AND I ARE SO VERY GLAD 748 00:36:20,367 --> 00:36:22,934 THAT WE'VE BEEN GRANTED THIS OPPORTUNITY 749 00:36:22,968 --> 00:36:26,047 TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY. 750 00:36:26,067 --> 00:36:28,047 AND SAY HELLO. 751 00:36:28,067 --> 00:36:31,133 YES. HELLO, EVERYONE. 752 00:36:31,167 --> 00:36:34,133 AND WE WANT TO SAY TO YOU 753 00:36:34,167 --> 00:36:37,667 THAT WE ARE SO VERY, VERY SORRY. 754 00:36:37,701 --> 00:36:39,901 I BELIEVE, TAMMY, 755 00:36:39,934 --> 00:36:42,267 'CAUSE THE GOD I SERVE IS STILL GOD, 756 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,334 I BELIEVE THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN. 757 00:36:45,367 --> 00:36:46,334 OH, I DO, TOO, JIM. 758 00:36:46,367 --> 00:36:47,334 YOU WANT TO SING IT? 759 00:36:47,367 --> 00:36:48,400 I'LL DO IT. CAN YOU DO IT? 760 00:36:48,434 --> 00:36:50,734 ALL RIGHT, TAMMY FAYE IS GONNA SING A SONG FOR YOU 761 00:36:50,767 --> 00:36:54,400 JUST BEFORE WE LEAVE OUR HOUSE. 762 00:36:54,701 --> 00:36:57,367 MAYBE YOU'RE HURTING AND YOU NEED THIS SONG TODAY, TOO, 763 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,234 SO, I'LL SING IT FOR BOTH OF US, OK? 764 00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:07,167 ♪ OH, THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪ 765 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:13,534 ♪ THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪ 766 00:37:13,567 --> 00:37:20,167 ♪ OH, THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪ 767 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,167 WE CAME IN HERE FIRST 768 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,767 BECAUSE WE FELT JIM BAKKER WANTED US HERE. 769 00:37:23,801 --> 00:37:27,601 ♪ A NEW DAY WILL BREAK ♪ 770 00:37:27,634 --> 00:37:30,133 WE NOW FEEL A HIGHER CALLING. 771 00:37:30,167 --> 00:37:32,534 WE FEEL THAT GOD WANTS US HERE, 772 00:37:32,567 --> 00:37:33,801 AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING. 773 00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:38,133 JERRY FALWELL CAME IN TO RESCUE THE NETWORK, 774 00:37:38,167 --> 00:37:41,467 BUT, IN FACT, TOOK IT. 775 00:37:41,501 --> 00:37:44,601 RESCUE, TAKE, THEY'RE OPPOSITES. 776 00:37:44,634 --> 00:37:47,434 I FEEL LIKE GOD HAS FORGIVEN ME OF SO MUCH, 777 00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:52,067 THAT I WILL FORGIVE EVERYONE WHO HAS HURT US. 778 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,667 AND SO WE JUST WANT EVERYONE 779 00:37:53,701 --> 00:37:55,234 TO BEGIN TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER, 780 00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:57,868 AND THAT THE CHURCH WORLD WILL LOVE ONE ANOTHER, 781 00:37:57,901 --> 00:38:00,334 THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD WILL NOT FIGHT. 782 00:38:00,367 --> 00:38:03,367 OH, I BELIEVE YOUR MIDNIGHT'S ALMOST OVER. 783 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,467 AND THANK GOD, THE SUN IS GOING TO SHINE AGAIN. 784 00:38:08,501 --> 00:38:09,567 PRAISE THE LORD. 785 00:38:09,601 --> 00:38:10,567 [APPLAUSE] 786 00:38:10,601 --> 00:38:13,601 Man: HALLELUJAH! PRAISE THE LORD! 787 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,634 Roe: JERRY FALWELL CALLED ME UP, 788 00:38:21,667 --> 00:38:23,901 AND HE SAID, "ROE, I WANT YOU TO GO OUT 789 00:38:23,934 --> 00:38:26,234 AND SEE JIM AND TAMMY FOR ME." 790 00:38:26,267 --> 00:38:27,667 HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO GO OUT THERE 791 00:38:27,701 --> 00:38:29,067 "AND TELL THEM I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM 792 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,567 "300,000 SALARY THIS YEAR. 793 00:38:30,601 --> 00:38:33,634 "I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE, 794 00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:35,634 "PAY THE PHONE BILL, 795 00:38:35,667 --> 00:38:38,601 "I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM ONE SECURITY GUARD, 796 00:38:38,634 --> 00:38:39,901 A MAID," HE SAID, 797 00:38:39,934 --> 00:38:42,434 AND YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE THEM WRITE IT DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER." 798 00:38:42,467 --> 00:38:46,047 ROE, THINKING THAT FALWELL WAS AN HONORABLE MAN, 799 00:38:46,067 --> 00:38:49,334 CAME OUT TO OUR HOUSE AND TOLD US THIS. 800 00:38:49,367 --> 00:38:52,734 AND SO HE SAID, "TAMMY, YOU NEED TO JUST GET A PIECE OF PAPER 801 00:38:52,767 --> 00:38:54,767 "AND YOU NEED TO WRITE DOWN THE LIST OF BENEFITS 802 00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:57,968 "THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS VOTED FOR YOU TO HAVE, 803 00:38:58,067 --> 00:39:01,968 AND MR. FALWELL WANTS TO CONTINUE THOSE FOR A YEAR." 804 00:39:02,067 --> 00:39:03,868 AND I GAVE JERRY, 805 00:39:03,901 --> 00:39:06,968 I GAVE HIM THIS-- THIS THING 806 00:39:07,067 --> 00:39:10,167 WITH TAMMY'S PINK STATIONARY. 807 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,901 HE GOES TO THE CAMERA RIGHT THEN. 808 00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:20,200 WE WERE IN OUR HOME AND CNN WAS ON, 809 00:39:20,234 --> 00:39:24,467 AND, OF COURSE, WE WERE WATCHING IT. 810 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:29,801 JIM AND TAMMY GAVE ME THIS LIST OF THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO RECEIVE. 811 00:39:29,834 --> 00:39:32,968 JIM'S SALARY, FOR A LIFETIME, 812 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,067 AT $300,000 PER YEAR. 813 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,400 TAMMY'S SALARY, FOR A LIFETIME, $100,000. 814 00:39:37,434 --> 00:39:39,167 SECRETARY FOR ONE YEAR... PHONE BILL..2 CARS... 815 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,267 HOUSE ON THE LAKE... SECURITY... 816 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,400 AND THE FURNITURE. THEY WANT A MAID. 817 00:39:44,133 --> 00:39:47,300 I DON'T SEE ANY REPENTANCE THERE. 818 00:39:47,334 --> 00:39:50,267 I SEE THE GREED. 819 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:52,767 I SEE THE SELF-CENTEREDNESS. 820 00:39:52,801 --> 00:39:57,334 I SEE THE AVARICE THAT BROUGHT THEM DOWN. 821 00:39:57,367 --> 00:39:59,100 AND FROM THAT DAY ON, 822 00:39:59,133 --> 00:40:04,100 HE STARTED-- HE STARTED HIS ATTACK ON JIM. 823 00:40:04,133 --> 00:40:06,000 THE HOMOSEXUALITY STUFF, 824 00:40:06,033 --> 00:40:08,501 THE DARK HOLE WHERE ALL THE MONEY'S GONE, 825 00:40:08,534 --> 00:40:10,968 AND ALL THAT BALONEY THAT HE CAME UP WITH. 826 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,167 I HAVE SAT ACROSS THE TABLE FROM MEN 827 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,400 WHO HAVE TOLD ME OF THEIR-- OF YOUR HOMOSEXUAL ADVANCES. 828 00:40:17,434 --> 00:40:23,467 AND SINCE THEN, OF COURSE, I HAVE LEARNED OF THE FISCAL IRREGULARITIES. 829 00:40:23,501 --> 00:40:25,000 AND JIM, I MUST TELL YOU 830 00:40:25,033 --> 00:40:27,334 THAT I WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO GOD, 831 00:40:27,367 --> 00:40:29,400 AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOU AND CARE FOR YOU, 832 00:40:29,434 --> 00:40:30,534 AND WILL PRAY FOR YOU, 833 00:40:30,567 --> 00:40:33,133 I WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO GOD 834 00:40:33,167 --> 00:40:35,567 AND TO THE CHURCH AT LARGE 835 00:40:35,601 --> 00:40:39,734 TO ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK HERE NOW OR EVER. 836 00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:46,601 JIM, A LOOK OF PURE HORROR, 837 00:40:46,634 --> 00:40:50,047 PURE TORTURE PASSED OVER HIS FACE. 838 00:40:50,067 --> 00:40:55,133 AND HE SAID, "TAM, IT'S ALL OVER. 839 00:40:55,167 --> 00:40:57,567 I'VE BEEN HAD." 840 00:40:57,601 --> 00:40:59,801 Charles: MY SENSE OF FALWELL AND OF HIS PEOPLE 841 00:40:59,834 --> 00:41:03,501 AND HOW THEY OPERATED WAS THEY HAD VERY SHARP KNIVES. 842 00:41:03,534 --> 00:41:06,133 AND THE BAKKERS PROBABLY WERE A LITTLE NAIVE. 843 00:41:06,167 --> 00:41:10,400 I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD EVER RUN INTO ANYONE WHO WAS QUITE SO CUNNING. 844 00:41:10,434 --> 00:41:13,634 THEY WERE MANIPULATIVE, AND SCHEMING, 845 00:41:13,667 --> 00:41:14,634 BUT HE WAS CUNNING, 846 00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:19,367 AND I THINK CUNNING TRUMPED SCHEMING THERE. 847 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,501 RuPaul: LESS THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER FALWELL TOOK OVER, 848 00:41:22,534 --> 00:41:24,467 PTL FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY. 849 00:41:24,501 --> 00:41:26,701 THOUSANDS OF PTL PARTNERS, DONORS, 850 00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:30,534 AND CREDITORS LOST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 851 00:41:34,267 --> 00:41:38,234 Roe: THEY SOLD IT FOR 25 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR, 852 00:41:38,267 --> 00:41:41,200 AND THERE JUST WASN'T ANY MONEY FOR THE CREDITORS. 853 00:41:41,234 --> 00:41:43,300 I THINK MR. FALWELL 854 00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:46,334 WANTED TO DESTROY PTL, IS WHAT I THINK. 855 00:41:46,367 --> 00:41:51,100 I WOULD LOVE TO SIT AND LOOK JERRY FALWELL IN THE EYES 856 00:41:51,133 --> 00:41:52,701 AND SAY, "JERRY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST 857 00:41:52,734 --> 00:41:57,367 GET IT RIGHT WITH GOD AND SAY YOU'RE SORRY?" 858 00:41:57,934 --> 00:41:59,400 HE DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE IT RIGHT WITH ME, 859 00:41:59,434 --> 00:42:02,801 BECAUSE I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF WHETHER JERRY FALWELL'S GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL. 860 00:42:02,834 --> 00:42:04,334 THAT'S NOT--I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT. 861 00:42:04,367 --> 00:42:08,334 BUT I SAY HE HAD BETTER MAKE IT RIGHT WITH GOD. 862 00:42:12,701 --> 00:42:15,901 I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO FACE JERRY, 863 00:42:15,934 --> 00:42:17,767 BUT HE WON'T FACE ME. I KNOW HE WON'T. 864 00:42:17,801 --> 00:42:20,934 RuPaul: FALWELL NEVER REPLIED TO TAMMY'S LETTER. 865 00:42:20,968 --> 00:42:22,234 HE HAS, HOWEVER, GONE ON RECORD 866 00:42:22,267 --> 00:42:26,901 CALLING TAMMY A LOONY WHOSE ELEVATOR NEVER WENT TO THE TOP FLOOR. 867 00:42:26,934 --> 00:42:32,047 FALWELL ALSO NEVER RESPONDED TO THE PRODUCER'S REQUEST 868 00:42:32,067 --> 00:42:33,367 FOR AN INTERVIEW. 869 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,434 ELSEWHERE, HOWEVER, 870 00:42:34,467 --> 00:42:37,501 HE HAS DENIED THAT THE LIST ON TAMMY'S LETTERHEAD 871 00:42:37,534 --> 00:42:39,701 WAS CREATED AT HIS SUGGESTION. 872 00:42:39,734 --> 00:42:42,334 HE ALSO MAINTAINS THAT BAKKER ASKED HIM 873 00:42:42,367 --> 00:42:43,901 TO TAKE OVER THE PTL MINISTRY 874 00:42:43,934 --> 00:42:47,901 AND WAS NEVER PROMISED HE COULD RETURN. 875 00:42:52,901 --> 00:42:56,534 RuPaul: IN 1989, JIM BAKKER WENT ON TRIAL FOR FRAUD. 876 00:42:56,567 --> 00:42:57,868 Reporter: THE GOVERNMENT SAID BAKKER 877 00:42:57,901 --> 00:43:01,067 DELIBERATELY SOLD MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY PARTNERSHIPS FOR LODGING 878 00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,801 AS THERE WERE ACCOMMODATIONS, 879 00:43:02,834 --> 00:43:04,534 AND POCKETED NEARLY $4 MILLION 880 00:43:04,567 --> 00:43:07,234 TO KEEP HIM IN EXPENSIVE HOMES AND CARS. 881 00:43:07,267 --> 00:43:08,467 James Albert: THIS WAS A FEDERAL TRIAL. 882 00:43:08,501 --> 00:43:10,567 THERE WERE NO CAMERAS ALLOWED IN THE COURTROOM. 883 00:43:10,601 --> 00:43:11,934 WE HAD TO RELY ON THOSE PRINT JOURNALISTS, 884 00:43:11,968 --> 00:43:15,334 AND PARTICULARLY THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER REPORTERS. 885 00:43:15,367 --> 00:43:17,667 THEN, OF COURSE, REMEMBER, THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER 886 00:43:17,701 --> 00:43:21,968 WON THE PULITZER PRIZE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE FOR TOPPLING JIM BAKKER 887 00:43:22,067 --> 00:43:24,434 AND EXPOSING HIM ONE FULL YEAR 888 00:43:24,467 --> 00:43:28,701 BEFORE THIS JURY EVER GOT A CHANCE TO CONSIDER 889 00:43:28,734 --> 00:43:29,868 ANY OF THIS EVIDENCE. 890 00:43:29,901 --> 00:43:34,300 RuPaul: JAMES ALBERT SPENT 5 YEARS STUDYING THE PTL TRIAL, 891 00:43:34,334 --> 00:43:36,400 AND WROTE A BOOK THAT RAISED QUESTIONS 892 00:43:36,434 --> 00:43:38,167 ABOUT HOW THE TRIAL MIGHT HAVE BEEN 893 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,634 A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE. 894 00:43:40,667 --> 00:43:44,701 WHEN THE DEFENSE PLAYED A PTL VIDEO 895 00:43:44,734 --> 00:43:46,601 FOR THE JURY TO SEE, 896 00:43:46,634 --> 00:43:51,067 JUDGE POTTER ACTUALLY STUCK HIS INDEX FINGERS IN HIS EARS 897 00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:52,067 AND TURNED AWAY. 898 00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:54,200 HE HAS SAID IN THE COURT MANY TIMES, 899 00:43:54,234 --> 00:43:56,501 "I MAY NOT BE RULING THIS CORRECTLY, 900 00:43:56,534 --> 00:43:59,267 BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT UP ON YOUR APPEAL." 901 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,133 AND I FEEL THAT ANY JUDGE WHO THINKS 902 00:44:02,167 --> 00:44:03,367 THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO APPEAL 903 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,968 HAS ALREADY MADE UP HIS MIND THAT WE'RE GUILTY. 904 00:44:06,067 --> 00:44:09,133 THE JUDGE REFUSED TO ALLOW THE JURORS 905 00:44:09,167 --> 00:44:13,467 TO BOARD A BUS AND TRAVEL 15 MINUTES TO HERITAGE U.S.A., 906 00:44:13,501 --> 00:44:15,501 TO SEE WHAT JIM BAKKER HAD BUILT 907 00:44:15,534 --> 00:44:17,767 WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT HE RAISED. 908 00:44:17,801 --> 00:44:21,234 IT WAS A TRIAL NOT ABOUT FRAUD 909 00:44:21,267 --> 00:44:22,367 OR CRIMINAL CONDUCT. 910 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,868 IT WAS A TRIAL ABOUT LIFESTYLE AND WEALTH. 911 00:44:25,901 --> 00:44:27,067 Reporter: PTL's NEW MANAGEMENT 912 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,634 ACT CONTINUALLY AMAZED AT THE OPULENCE 913 00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:31,701 UNDER WHICH JIM AND TAMMY BAKKER LIVED. 914 00:44:31,734 --> 00:44:34,300 IN FACT, A TRIP THROUGH THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE 915 00:44:34,334 --> 00:44:35,634 AT THE HERITAGE GRAND HOTEL 916 00:44:35,667 --> 00:44:40,701 SHOWS THE BAKKERS LIVED, ONE COULD EASILY DEDUCE, QUITE LUXURIOUSLY. 917 00:44:40,734 --> 00:44:41,968 THEY LIVED WELL, 918 00:44:42,067 --> 00:44:44,634 BUT THEY LIVED NO BETTER THAN PAT ROBERTSON, 919 00:44:44,667 --> 00:44:46,467 NO BETTER THAN JERRY FALWELL, 920 00:44:46,501 --> 00:44:47,734 NO BETTER THAN JIM DOBSON, 921 00:44:47,767 --> 00:44:49,334 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THEIR HOMES, TOO. 922 00:44:49,367 --> 00:44:52,834 BUT LOOK, I THINK THE FACT IS 923 00:44:52,868 --> 00:44:54,367 THE BAKKERS HAD BEEN, 924 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,047 FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY'S POINT OF VIEW, 925 00:44:57,067 --> 00:44:58,047 PRETTY GREEDY. 926 00:44:58,067 --> 00:45:00,701 IT'S LUDICROUS TO ARGUE 927 00:45:00,734 --> 00:45:04,334 THAT JIM BAKKER RAISED $158 MILLION 928 00:45:04,367 --> 00:45:06,434 FROM HIS TELEVISION VIEWERS 929 00:45:06,467 --> 00:45:11,400 TO KEEP $3 MILLION FOR HIMSELF. 930 00:45:15,067 --> 00:45:16,200 RuPaul: AFTER A 6-WEEK TRIAL, 931 00:45:16,234 --> 00:45:20,801 JIM BAKKER WAS SENTENCED TO 45 YEARS IN FEDERAL PRISON. 932 00:45:20,834 --> 00:45:22,767 I CAN'T IMAGINE HIM BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY, 933 00:45:22,801 --> 00:45:24,968 BUT THAT'S VERY MUCH IN THE JUDGE'S DISCRETION, 934 00:45:25,067 --> 00:45:28,467 AND THE JUDGE HAS PROVEN HIMSELF HARD TO PREDICT. 935 00:45:28,934 --> 00:45:35,334 WITH TODAY'S VERDICT, REALITY HAS FINALLY DAWNED FOR JIM BAKKER. 936 00:45:37,334 --> 00:45:42,167 TODAY WAS CERTAINLY AN EXAMPLE OF GOD'S AMAZING GRACE. 937 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,100 THEY DID HIM LIKE THEY DONE JESUS, 938 00:45:46,133 --> 00:45:49,934 WITH LEADING HIM LIKE HE'S A BIG DRUG PUSHER, 939 00:45:49,968 --> 00:45:50,934 A BIG ROBBER OR SOMETHING. 940 00:45:50,968 --> 00:45:52,067 THEY HAD HANDCUFFS ON HIM, 941 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:56,067 LEADING HIM, AND HE IS THE MAN OF GOD. 942 00:45:58,434 --> 00:45:59,834 I HAVE A SONG FOR YOU. 943 00:45:59,868 --> 00:46:06,467 ♪ ON CHRIST, THE SOLID ROCK, I STAND ♪ 944 00:46:06,501 --> 00:46:12,534 ♪ ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND ♪ 945 00:46:12,567 --> 00:46:19,567 ♪ ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND ♪ 946 00:46:20,167 --> 00:46:22,501 IT'S NOT OVER TILL IT'S OVER. 947 00:46:22,534 --> 00:46:23,601 RuPaul: THIS IS THE LAST TIME 948 00:46:23,634 --> 00:46:26,501 TAMMY FAYE WOULD SING IN PUBLIC FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 949 00:46:26,534 --> 00:46:30,901 MEANWHILE CHARLES SHEPARD WROTE A BOOK CALLED FORGIVEN, 950 00:46:31,067 --> 00:46:33,047 A SEARING ACCOUNT OF THE SCANDAL. 951 00:46:33,067 --> 00:46:34,047 [TYPING] 952 00:46:34,067 --> 00:46:37,634 SHEPARD WAS ASKED IF HE WOULD MET WITH TAMMY FAYE. 953 00:46:37,667 --> 00:46:39,367 HE AGREED. 954 00:46:41,234 --> 00:46:42,968 SO 12 YEARS AFTER THE VERDICT, 955 00:46:43,067 --> 00:46:46,601 TAMMY CONFRONTED CHARLES FOR THE FIRST TIME. 956 00:46:46,634 --> 00:46:47,901 I WAS THEIR, CHARLIE. 957 00:46:47,934 --> 00:46:49,067 I KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. 958 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:51,467 I KNOW JIM BAKKER IS NOT A CROOK. 959 00:46:51,501 --> 00:46:55,067 I KNOW THAT AFTER 25 YEARS IN FRONT OF THE TELEVISION CAMERAS, 960 00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:58,047 WE DID NOT STEAL MONEY AND YOU AND I-- 961 00:46:58,067 --> 00:46:59,667 I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY, "YOU STOLE MONEY." 962 00:46:59,701 --> 00:47:03,501 I DON'T FEEL I WROTE THINGS THAT WERE UNTRUE. HMM. 963 00:47:03,534 --> 00:47:05,047 CERTAINLY NOT KNOWING THEY WERE, 964 00:47:05,067 --> 00:47:08,267 AND EVEN NOW, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING I WROTE THAT WAS UNTRUE. MM-HMM. 965 00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:09,701 DID YOU WRITE THAT MILLIONS WERE MISSING? 966 00:47:09,734 --> 00:47:11,801 I DON'T EVER REMEMBER WRITING THAT. 967 00:47:11,834 --> 00:47:16,767 YOU SAID--WHAT YOU SAID WAS A BIG, DEEP HOLE... 968 00:47:16,801 --> 00:47:19,634 MILLIONS MISSING. 969 00:47:19,667 --> 00:47:20,634 W-WHY? 970 00:47:20,667 --> 00:47:22,634 ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS JUST WHY? 971 00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,601 WHICH QUESTION SHOULD I ANSWER FIRST? 972 00:47:24,634 --> 00:47:25,601 ON ALL OF THEM! 973 00:47:25,634 --> 00:47:27,334 I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, WHAT DID WE DO? 974 00:47:27,367 --> 00:47:31,334 FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T-- I'M NOT HERE TO SAY-- A JUDGE AND JURY. 975 00:47:31,367 --> 00:47:32,400 BECAUSE, LISTEN. 976 00:47:32,434 --> 00:47:36,567 I COULD TURN AROUND AND--AND--AND--AND PUT PTL DOWN 977 00:47:36,601 --> 00:47:39,267 IF I WANT TO, JUST LIKE THE NEWS DID, 978 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:41,067 BUT I WAS THERE AND I LIVED IT 979 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:42,901 AND ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT JIM BAKKER-- 980 00:47:42,934 --> 00:47:43,901 HE WAS AN HONEST MAN. 981 00:47:43,934 --> 00:47:45,868 AND ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT THE PTL ORGANIZATION, 982 00:47:45,901 --> 00:47:50,047 IT WAS AN HONEST, TRUTHFUL ORGANIZATION. 983 00:47:50,067 --> 00:47:51,801 RuPaul: TAMMY WANTED AN APOLOGY. 984 00:47:51,834 --> 00:47:54,968 CHARLES WANTED AN AUTOGRAPH. 985 00:47:55,067 --> 00:47:55,968 OH, YEAH. I--I--I... 986 00:47:56,067 --> 00:47:58,234 I BROUGHT SOME COPIES OF MY BOOK. 987 00:47:58,267 --> 00:47:59,567 HEY, GREAT. 988 00:47:59,601 --> 00:48:01,133 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU, BUT I WANTED TO GET YOU TO AUTOGRAPH SOME... 989 00:48:01,167 --> 00:48:02,901 I WILL. 990 00:48:02,934 --> 00:48:04,047 MY SCHOOL HAS GOT AN AUCTION 991 00:48:04,067 --> 00:48:06,234 FOR THE GRADUATE WOMEN IN BUSINESS GROUP. OH, SURE. 992 00:48:06,267 --> 00:48:07,601 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A KICK 993 00:48:07,634 --> 00:48:08,601 IF I GIVE THEM THAT TO AUCTION OFF. 994 00:48:08,634 --> 00:48:11,100 OK. ALL RIGHT. 995 00:48:13,334 --> 00:48:15,434 DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO A SIGNING, DID YOU, TAMMY? 996 00:48:15,467 --> 00:48:16,767 NO, I DIDN'T. 997 00:48:16,801 --> 00:48:18,834 Man: TAMMY, WHAT DID YOU WRITE? 998 00:48:18,868 --> 00:48:19,834 HA HA HA! 999 00:48:19,868 --> 00:48:23,367 BUT, HEY, CHARLES, YOU'RE FORGIVEN. 1000 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,501 HA HA HA! 1001 00:48:24,534 --> 00:48:26,834 ♪ I'M GOING TO LOVE MY ENEMIES ♪ 1002 00:48:26,868 --> 00:48:30,801 ♪ DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO ARE BAD TO ME ♪ 1003 00:48:30,834 --> 00:48:33,067 ♪ GOING TO LOVE... ♪ 1004 00:48:36,367 --> 00:48:38,701 WELL, IF YOU CAME TO SEE ME CRY, 1005 00:48:38,734 --> 00:48:40,047 WELL, YOU GOT YOUR WISH. 1006 00:48:40,067 --> 00:48:42,734 Woman: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS? 1007 00:48:42,767 --> 00:48:44,234 WELL, I WANT TO SAY I LOVE MY HUSBAND, 1008 00:48:44,267 --> 00:48:46,767 MY FAITH IS STILL STRONG IN THE LORD. 1009 00:48:46,801 --> 00:48:49,701 I STILL FEEL THERE'S NOTHING TOO HARD FOR GOD, 1010 00:48:49,734 --> 00:48:52,868 AND I'M STANDING ON CHRIST, A SOLID ROCK. 1011 00:48:52,901 --> 00:48:54,734 RuPaul: WITH A HUSBAND IN PRISON, 1012 00:48:54,767 --> 00:48:57,901 A RUNAWAY DAUGHTER, AND A TROUBLED SON, 1013 00:48:57,934 --> 00:49:01,100 TAMMY STRUGGLED TO MAKE IT ON HER OWN. 1014 00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:06,133 BUT IN 1992, JIM AND TAMMY'S DREAM ENDED...IN DIVORCE. 1015 00:49:06,167 --> 00:49:08,701 I WAS TOTALLY ALONE AND HAD NOTHING, NO ONE. 1016 00:49:08,734 --> 00:49:11,601 EVERYONE HAD TURNED THEIR BACK AGAINST ME ONE MORE TIME, 1017 00:49:11,634 --> 00:49:14,801 AND I FELT LIKE A WOMAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY. 1018 00:49:14,834 --> 00:49:18,434 IT'S SO OFTEN TRUE THAT CHRISTIANS ARE 1019 00:49:18,467 --> 00:49:21,234 ONE ARMY THAT KILLS THEIR WOUNDED. 1020 00:49:21,267 --> 00:49:22,234 HA HA. WE DON'T-- 1021 00:49:22,267 --> 00:49:24,534 WE DON'T TRY TO NURSE THEM BACK TO HEALTH. 1022 00:49:24,567 --> 00:49:27,868 AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WOMAN IN OUR TIME 1023 00:49:27,901 --> 00:49:32,033 WHO HAS BEEN SO RIDICULED, PUT DOWN, MALIGNED. 1024 00:49:32,067 --> 00:49:33,934 REALLY, I EQUATE HER 1025 00:49:33,968 --> 00:49:35,033 WITH HILLARY CLINTON... 1026 00:49:35,067 --> 00:49:40,167 BECAUSE THESE 2 WOMEN HAVE BOTH SUFFERED TREMENDOUSLY 1027 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,734 BY THE THINGS THAT THEIR HUSBANDS MAY HAVE DONE. 1028 00:49:43,767 --> 00:49:45,901 HA. AND YET SHE JUST KEEPS GOING. 1029 00:49:45,934 --> 00:49:49,167 Choir: ♪ I'LL KEEP CLIMBING ♪ 1030 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,033 ♪ I'LL KEEP CLIMBING ♪ 1031 00:49:52,067 --> 00:49:54,968 ♪ UP THE MOUNTAIN ♪ 1032 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,467 ♪ UP THAT MOUNTAIN ♪ 1033 00:49:57,501 --> 00:50:00,067 ♪ AND I'LL MAKE IT ♪ 1034 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:03,000 ♪ I'M GOING TO MAKE IT ♪ 1035 00:50:03,033 --> 00:50:05,200 RuPaul: 18 MONTHS AFTER HER DIVORCE, 1036 00:50:05,234 --> 00:50:08,367 TAMMY SCANDALIZED THE CHURCH AND THE MEDIA 1037 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,467 WHEN SHE REMARRIED. 1038 00:50:09,501 --> 00:50:12,901 HER NEW HUSBAND WAS THE MAN WHO PAID OFF JESSICA HAHN, 1039 00:50:12,934 --> 00:50:14,601 THE MAN WHO BUILT HERITAGE U.S.A., 1040 00:50:14,634 --> 00:50:19,501 AND THE MAN WHO JIM BAKKER CALLED HIS BEST FRIEND... 1041 00:50:19,534 --> 00:50:20,634 ROE MESSNER. 1042 00:50:20,667 --> 00:50:23,868 Roe: EVERYBODY LIKES TO SAY THAT WAS PLANNED, YOU KNOW, 1043 00:50:23,901 --> 00:50:26,634 AND THAT ROE AND TAMMY HAD THIS BIG DEAL GOING 1044 00:50:26,667 --> 00:50:29,868 WHILE HE WAS IN CHARLOTTE BUILDING PTL. 1045 00:50:29,901 --> 00:50:32,067 NONE OF THAT'S TRUE. 1046 00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,734 ALL OF A SUDDEN, I... 1047 00:50:33,767 --> 00:50:34,901 LIKED TAMMY, YOU KNOW? 1048 00:50:34,934 --> 00:50:41,334 AND WE STARTED TALKING TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT. 1049 00:50:41,367 --> 00:50:42,367 UM... 1050 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,501 AND IT JUST SORT OF HAPPENED LIKE THAT, REALLY. 1051 00:50:46,534 --> 00:50:47,501 RuPaul: DIVORCED AND REMARRIED, 1052 00:50:47,534 --> 00:50:50,367 TAMMY WAS REJECTED BY CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING, 1053 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,467 SO SHE TURNED TO SECULAR TELEVISION, 1054 00:50:52,501 --> 00:50:54,400 COURTING EVEN MORE CONTROVERSY 1055 00:50:54,434 --> 00:50:58,734 BY HOSTING A TALK SHOW WITH AN OPENLY GAY COHOST. 1056 00:50:58,767 --> 00:51:01,634 Both: ♪ WE'RE NOT WHAT YOU'D EXPECT ♪ 1057 00:51:01,667 --> 00:51:04,067 ♪ WE'RE A CRAZY, KOOKY DUET ♪ 1058 00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:07,634 ♪ WE'RE A RECIPE YOU COULDN'T BAKE UP ♪ 1059 00:51:07,667 --> 00:51:09,567 ♪ 3 TIMES THE LAUGHS ♪ 1060 00:51:09,601 --> 00:51:11,868 ♪ AND 10 TIMES THE MAKEUP ♪ 1061 00:51:11,901 --> 00:51:14,234 I THINK GAY PEOPLE LIKE TAMMY BECAUSE 1062 00:51:14,267 --> 00:51:15,234 TAMMY LIKES GAY PEOPLE. 1063 00:51:15,267 --> 00:51:17,734 AND SHE'S ONE OF THE ONLY CHRISTIANS 1064 00:51:17,767 --> 00:51:20,601 IN THE WORLD WHO SEEMS TO THESE DAYS. 1065 00:51:20,634 --> 00:51:22,501 Singers: ♪ WAY ♪ 1066 00:51:22,534 --> 00:51:25,167 ♪ ON JIM J. AND TAMMY FAYE ♪ 1067 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,133 OH, HI, EVERYONE! 1068 00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:28,133 THAT'S YOUR MAKE-UP KIT? 1069 00:51:28,167 --> 00:51:29,133 THAT'S MY MAKE-UP. 1070 00:51:29,167 --> 00:51:31,047 CHOCOLATE? OF COURSE, SHE'S GOT CHOCOLATE, 1071 00:51:31,067 --> 00:51:33,067 POTATO CHIPS, A-- MY BRA?! 1072 00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,334 WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY BRA? 1073 00:51:35,367 --> 00:51:38,133 I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF HIM AS--AS--AS GAY. 1074 00:51:38,167 --> 00:51:40,434 I JUST THOUGHT OF HIM AS ANOTHER HUMAN BEING 1075 00:51:40,467 --> 00:51:41,734 THAT I LOVED. 1076 00:51:41,767 --> 00:51:43,334 IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. 1077 00:51:43,367 --> 00:51:44,334 OH, MY GOD! 1078 00:51:44,367 --> 00:51:46,734 HONEY, HOW ARE YOU?! 1079 00:51:46,767 --> 00:51:48,467 I MISSED YOU SO MUCH. 1080 00:51:48,501 --> 00:51:50,167 I MISSED YOU, TOO! 1081 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,367 Jim J.: SHE HAS BEEN JUDGED BY OTHER PEOPLE 1082 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,701 AND SHE KNOWS WHAT THAT'S LIKE. 1083 00:51:54,734 --> 00:52:00,868 SO ALTHOUGH TAMMY'S BELIEFS ARE NOT IN FAVOR, I DON'T THINK, 1084 00:52:00,901 --> 00:52:01,868 OF HOMOSEXUALITY, 1085 00:52:01,901 --> 00:52:04,801 SHE ALLOWED ME THE FREEDOM TO BE WHO I AM 1086 00:52:04,834 --> 00:52:07,667 AND DIDN'T LET THAT GET IN THE WAY OF A FRIENDSHIP. 1087 00:52:07,701 --> 00:52:09,667 OH, YOU DECORATE SO AWESOME. 1088 00:52:09,701 --> 00:52:11,501 AREN'T THESE FABULOUS? THESE ARE AWESOME. 1089 00:52:11,534 --> 00:52:12,501 I'M GLAD YOU GOT TO SAVE SOMETHING. 1090 00:52:12,534 --> 00:52:13,801 YOU WANT A DIET COKE? 1091 00:52:13,834 --> 00:52:14,834 HOW DID YOU KNOW? 1092 00:52:14,868 --> 00:52:16,100 RuPaul: TAMMY HASN'T SEEN JIM J. 1093 00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:17,934 SINCE HE LOST HIS LOVER TO AIDS 1094 00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:21,434 AND WAS HIMSELF DIAGNOSED WITH HIV. 1095 00:52:21,467 --> 00:52:23,367 HOW ARE YOU DOING WITHOUT JOHN? 1096 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,367 ARE YOU DOING OK? 1097 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,200 IT'S BEEN A LONG, HARD ROAD, YOU KNOW, BUT-- 1098 00:52:28,234 --> 00:52:30,501 I KNOW. IT MUST BE VERY LONELY. 1099 00:52:30,534 --> 00:52:32,501 - I'M COMING AROUND. - ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? 1100 00:52:32,534 --> 00:52:33,901 - YEAH. - GOOD. 1101 00:52:33,934 --> 00:52:37,167 I'M A SURVIVOR LIKE YOU. I LOVED JOHN. YOU KNOW, I LOVED HIM SO MUCH. 1102 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,801 I DON'T LABEL PEOPLE. 1103 00:52:38,834 --> 00:52:40,701 I REFUSE TO LABEL PEOPLE. 1104 00:52:40,734 --> 00:52:44,868 WE'RE ALL JUST PEOPLE MADE OUT OF THE SAME OLD DIRT. 1105 00:52:44,901 --> 00:52:48,534 AND GOD DIDN'T MAKE ANY JUNK. 1106 00:52:48,567 --> 00:52:51,734 RuPaul: BUT IN SPITE OF THEIR ON-SCREEN CHEMISTRY, 1107 00:52:51,767 --> 00:52:52,801 THE SHOW WAS CANCELED. 1108 00:52:52,834 --> 00:52:56,067 AND BEFORE SHE COULD RECOVER FROM THIS BLOW, 1109 00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:57,567 SHE WAS DEALT ANOTHER. 1110 00:52:57,601 --> 00:53:00,868 Tammy: I HAD BEEN BLEEDING FOR A YEAR. 1111 00:53:00,901 --> 00:53:02,400 THE BLEEDING BECAME MUCH WORSE. 1112 00:53:02,434 --> 00:53:06,934 AND SO MY GYNECOLOGIST SAID, "TAMMY, I THINK YOU NEED TO GO SEE A PROCTOLOGIST." 1113 00:53:06,968 --> 00:53:10,100 AND BY THAT TIME, OF COURSE, IT WAS TOO LATE 1114 00:53:10,133 --> 00:53:15,834 AND THE CANCER HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE IN MY BODY. 1115 00:53:15,868 --> 00:53:18,100 BEING WITH HER... 1116 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,567 DURING... 1117 00:53:22,267 --> 00:53:25,868 UM, HER CANCER... 1118 00:53:27,801 --> 00:53:33,467 IN THE HOSPITAL, SLEEPING ON THE BED NEXT TO HER, 1119 00:53:33,501 --> 00:53:35,667 IN THE HOSPITAL... 1120 00:53:44,601 --> 00:53:46,634 THAT WAS... 1121 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400 I THINK THE CLOSEST-- CLOSEST... 1122 00:53:50,767 --> 00:53:54,267 I'VE EVER BEEN TO MY MOTHER. 1123 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:57,601 AND I WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING. 1124 00:53:57,634 --> 00:54:01,667 AND IT WAS WORTH EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO GO THROUGH CANCER 1125 00:54:01,701 --> 00:54:04,300 TO GET CLOSE TO MY PRECIOUS DAUGHTER 1126 00:54:04,334 --> 00:54:09,501 AND TO BECOME HER FRIEND, NOT JUST HER MOM. 1127 00:54:09,801 --> 00:54:11,767 RuPaul: BOUNCING BACK ONE MORE TIME, 1128 00:54:11,801 --> 00:54:13,501 TAMMY MADE A DRAMATIC RECOVERY. 1129 00:54:13,534 --> 00:54:15,934 John J.: THE ONE THING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT TAMMY IS 1130 00:54:15,968 --> 00:54:16,968 SHE IS A SURVIVOR. 1131 00:54:17,067 --> 00:54:20,334 I MEAN, AFTER THE HOLOCAUST, THERE WILL BE, LIKE, 1132 00:54:20,367 --> 00:54:24,067 ROACHES, TAMMY FAYE AND CHER. 1133 00:54:24,701 --> 00:54:27,767 RuPaul: INSPIRED BY HER SUCCESSFUL BATTLE WITH CANCER, 1134 00:54:27,801 --> 00:54:30,901 TAMMY RECORDED A SELF-HELP VIDEOTAPE GUIDE 1135 00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:32,934 TO SURVIVING LIFE. 1136 00:54:32,968 --> 00:54:36,501 IF LIFE HANDS YOU A LEMON... 1137 00:54:37,267 --> 00:54:39,234 START MAKING LEMONADE. 1138 00:54:39,267 --> 00:54:42,334 BUT BEFORE THE TAPE COULD BE RELEASED, 1139 00:54:42,367 --> 00:54:44,534 THE COMPANY WENT BANKRUPT. 1140 00:54:44,567 --> 00:54:48,968 THEN LIFE HANDED TAMMY YET ANOTHER LEMON. 1141 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,734 IN 1996, HER HUSBAND ROE WAS SENTENCED 1142 00:54:52,767 --> 00:54:56,047 TO 2 YEARS IN PRISON FOR BANKRUPTCY FRAUD. 1143 00:54:56,067 --> 00:54:58,167 WE'RE GOING TO A PLACE CALLED BORON. 1144 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,167 BORON IS ACTUALLY WHERE THEY USED TO MAKE BORAX. 1145 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,801 IT'S ABOUT 2 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE, 1146 00:55:05,834 --> 00:55:08,701 GOING 75, 80 MILES AN HOUR. 1147 00:55:08,734 --> 00:55:10,047 WHOO! HA HA HA! 1148 00:55:10,067 --> 00:55:15,067 I LIKE TO GO FAST ENOUGH AND SO YOU LOSE YOUR TUMMY ON THESE BUMPS. 1149 00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:18,234 IF I HADN'T MARRIED TAMMY, I WOULDN'T BE IN JAIL. THAT'S TRUE. 1150 00:55:18,267 --> 00:55:21,300 THERE WAS MORE SAID IN MY TRIAL ABOUT MR. BAKKER 1151 00:55:21,334 --> 00:55:23,167 THAN THERE WAS ABOUT ME. 1152 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,601 YOU KNOW, ANYONE CAN BE PUT IN PRISON. IF THE GOVERNMENT DECIDES 1153 00:55:26,634 --> 00:55:29,934 THAT THEY DON'T LIKE YOU, THEY CAN COME UP WITH ANY REASON 1154 00:55:29,968 --> 00:55:32,701 TO PUT YOU IN PRISON AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT. 1155 00:55:32,734 --> 00:55:35,467 Roe: TAMMY HAS GONE THROUGH 1156 00:55:35,501 --> 00:55:39,367 A LOT OF HEARTACHE IN HER LIFETIME. 1157 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,367 AND PRISON IS HARDER ON THE WIFE THAN IT IS ON THE PRISONER. 1158 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,100 I USED TO TELL MY MOTHER MANY TIMES, "BUT, MOM, THAT'S NOT FAIR, 1159 00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:49,868 THAT'S NOT FAIR," AND MY MOTHER TRAINED ME 1160 00:55:49,901 --> 00:55:54,934 WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL AND SHE SAID, "TAMMY, WHO EVER SAID LIFE WAS FAIR?" 1161 00:55:54,968 --> 00:55:57,701 Roe: I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE VISITS, 1162 00:55:57,734 --> 00:56:01,701 BECAUSE VISITS FOR ME ARE HARD. 1163 00:56:01,734 --> 00:56:04,901 IT'S HARD TO SAY GOOD-BYE. 1164 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,534 SO I'D RATHER NOT HAVE A VISIT. 1165 00:56:19,868 --> 00:56:22,133 RuPaul: INSTEAD OF LANGUISHING IN THE DESERT, 1166 00:56:22,167 --> 00:56:24,634 TAMMY DECIDED TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS, 1167 00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:27,567 STARTING WITH AN APPEARANCE ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW. 1168 00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:30,133 I WOULD MUCH RATHER PREFER TO WORK IN SECULAR TELEVISION. 1169 00:56:30,167 --> 00:56:34,834 I THINK CHRISTIAN TELEVISION IS VERY LIMITED IN WHAT YOU CAN DO. 1170 00:56:34,868 --> 00:56:36,767 Man: SO I WANT TO DO A QUICK RUN-THROUGH ON THIS, 1171 00:56:36,801 --> 00:56:38,334 JUST SO YOU'RE COMFORTABLE. 1172 00:56:38,367 --> 00:56:39,868 I'M COMFORTABLE. YOU ARE? 1173 00:56:39,901 --> 00:56:41,234 TODAY ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW, 1174 00:56:41,267 --> 00:56:44,267 INFAMOUS TELEVANGELIST TAMMY FAYE, OUTSPOKEN ACTIVIST CHASTITY BONO, 1175 00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:48,601 AND ONE OF THE HOTTEST BANDS AROUND--BLUES TRAVELERS-- IS HERE. 1176 00:56:48,634 --> 00:56:51,868 AND NOW HERE'S ROSEANNE! 1177 00:56:51,901 --> 00:56:52,868 THAT'S GREAT. 1178 00:56:52,901 --> 00:56:54,534 IT'S GOING TO BE PANDEMONIUM OUT THERE, BUT... 1179 00:56:54,567 --> 00:56:55,534 OK. 1180 00:56:55,567 --> 00:56:56,601 YOU'LL RESPOND TO THAT. 1181 00:56:56,634 --> 00:56:57,868 I'LL RESPOND TO THAT. OK. 1182 00:56:57,901 --> 00:57:01,334 I THINK WHAT THE SECULAR WORLD DOES NOT REALIZE 1183 00:57:01,367 --> 00:57:03,901 IS THAT I AM A VERY SECULAR PERSON. 1184 00:57:03,934 --> 00:57:07,234 UH, CHRIST IS JUST A PART OF ME. UH... 1185 00:57:07,267 --> 00:57:11,133 IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT. 1186 00:57:11,167 --> 00:57:12,334 IT'S SOMETHING INSIDE ME, 1187 00:57:12,367 --> 00:57:15,047 AND IT JUST MAKES ME WHO I AM. 1188 00:57:15,067 --> 00:57:17,234 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1189 00:57:17,267 --> 00:57:19,767 Tammy: TODAY ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW, 1190 00:57:19,801 --> 00:57:21,901 TELEVANGELIST TAMMY FAYE, 1191 00:57:21,934 --> 00:57:24,834 OUTSPOKEN ACTIVIST CHASTITY BONO, 1192 00:57:24,868 --> 00:57:27,400 AND ONE OF THE HOTTEST BANDS AROUND-- 1193 00:57:27,434 --> 00:57:29,200 BLUES TRAVELERS--IS HERE. 1194 00:57:29,234 --> 00:57:33,601 AND NOW HERE'S ROSEANNE! 1195 00:57:38,067 --> 00:57:39,634 NOW, YOU'RE MAKEUP IS EXTREME. 1196 00:57:39,667 --> 00:57:41,267 YOU THINK IT IS? IT'S VERY EXTREME. 1197 00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:42,667 I DON'T MEAN TO DISRESPECT YOU. 1198 00:57:42,701 --> 00:57:44,047 I JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU. 1199 00:57:44,067 --> 00:57:45,901 I THINK I FEEL UGLY WITHOUT IT. 1200 00:57:45,934 --> 00:57:47,901 WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU LOOK UGLY WITHOUT IT-- 1201 00:57:47,934 --> 00:57:49,067 I DO. 1202 00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:50,968 WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING-- THAT'S NOT A RIGHT WAY TO THINK. 1203 00:57:51,067 --> 00:57:51,968 I KNOW, ROSEANNE. 1204 00:57:52,067 --> 00:57:53,267 BUT, OK, SO DON'T. 1205 00:57:53,300 --> 00:57:54,501 BUT THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL, YOU KNOW. 1206 00:57:54,534 --> 00:57:55,968 BUT THAT'S THE WRONG WAY TO FEEL. 1207 00:57:56,067 --> 00:57:58,167 HI, GREG. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU. 1208 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,047 YOU'RE TALLER THAN I THOUGHT. HA HA HA! 1209 00:58:00,067 --> 00:58:01,367 YOU'RE SHORTER THAN I THOUGHT. 1210 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,734 RuPaul: DECIDING IT WAS TIME FOR NEW HEADSHOTS, 1211 00:58:03,767 --> 00:58:06,501 TAMMY TURNED TO PHOTOGRAPHER GREG GORMAN. 1212 00:58:06,534 --> 00:58:07,501 HERE. 1213 00:58:07,534 --> 00:58:08,634 WHAT I THOUGHT WE COULD DO 1214 00:58:08,667 --> 00:58:09,734 IS START, MAYBE, SINCE YOU'RE PROBABLY 1215 00:58:09,767 --> 00:58:11,868 NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH MYSELF AS I AM WITH YOU, 1216 00:58:11,901 --> 00:58:13,901 IS SIT DOWN, LET ME SHOW YOU SOME OF MY WORK, 1217 00:58:13,934 --> 00:58:16,167 AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO. 1218 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,767 SOUNDS GOOD. 1219 00:58:18,267 --> 00:58:20,300 OH, YES! MY FAVORITE LADY IN THE WHOLE WORLD. 1220 00:58:20,334 --> 00:58:21,300 SARAH, THE DUCHESS OF YORK. 1221 00:58:21,334 --> 00:58:23,047 I WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW WE'VE KIND OF 1222 00:58:23,067 --> 00:58:25,868 TAKEN HER OUT OF THE REALM OF HOW PEOPLE HAD SEEN HER 1223 00:58:25,901 --> 00:58:27,047 AND GIVEN HER KIND OF A NEW LOOK. 1224 00:58:27,067 --> 00:58:28,667 MM-HMM. WHAT WE DID IS BASICALLY... 1225 00:58:28,701 --> 00:58:30,047 MADE HER SOFT, SOFTENED HER. 1226 00:58:30,067 --> 00:58:31,167 SOFTEN, SOFTENED HER. 1227 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,868 SHE'S BEAUTIFUL. 1228 00:58:34,901 --> 00:58:36,501 SO YOU'VE NEVER DONE PICTURES WITHOUT THOSE EYELASHES? 1229 00:58:36,534 --> 00:58:38,734 NO, AND I NEVER WILL BECAUSE THAT'S MY TRADEMARK. RIGHT. 1230 00:58:38,767 --> 00:58:41,047 AND IF I TAKE MY TRADEMARK AWAY, 1231 00:58:41,067 --> 00:58:42,300 THEN IT'S NOT ME. 1232 00:58:42,334 --> 00:58:44,901 AND SO I HOLD ONTO THAT, I THINK-- 1233 00:58:44,934 --> 00:58:46,601 EVEN IF WE SOFTEN THEM AND KEPT THEM-- 1234 00:58:46,634 --> 00:58:48,501 NO, NO. THEY STAY JUST WHERE THEY ARE. OK. 1235 00:58:48,534 --> 00:58:49,501 YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE, 1236 00:58:49,534 --> 00:58:50,968 BUT MY EYELASHES WILL STAY WHERE THEY ARE. 1237 00:58:51,067 --> 00:58:51,968 YOU GOT IT. 1238 00:58:52,067 --> 00:58:53,300 Choir: ♪ HALLELU ♪ 1239 00:58:53,334 --> 00:58:54,334 ♪ HALLELU ♪ 1240 00:58:54,367 --> 00:58:55,434 ♪ HALLELU ♪ 1241 00:58:55,467 --> 00:58:56,567 ♪ HALLELU ♪ 1242 00:58:56,601 --> 00:58:57,734 ♪ HALLELUJAH ♪ 1243 00:58:57,767 --> 00:59:00,367 NORMALLY A PERSON WOULD COME TO A PHOTO SHOOT, 1244 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,167 ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR TEAM OF PLAYERS 1245 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,734 LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHER AND THE HAIRDRESSER AND THE STYLIST, 1246 00:59:06,767 --> 00:59:11,047 THEY COME BLANK. THEY COME WITH NO MAKEUP ON, WITHOUT THEIR HAIR DONE. 1247 00:59:11,067 --> 00:59:13,047 TAMMY FAYE CAME ALL MADE UP, 1248 00:59:13,067 --> 00:59:15,501 SO WE TOOK IT ALL OFF, STARTED OVER. 1249 00:59:15,534 --> 00:59:17,834 OK. SO I'M GOING TO START BY TAKING SOME OFF. 1250 00:59:17,868 --> 00:59:18,834 OK. 1251 00:59:18,868 --> 00:59:20,167 I'M GOING TO TAKE YOUR FOUNDATION OFF. 1252 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,167 OK. 1253 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,167 AND NORMALLY START AGAIN. 1254 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,167 OK. 1255 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,601 CAN YOU TAKE YOUR LIPS OFF? 1256 00:59:25,634 --> 00:59:27,267 YOU WANT A LITTLE REMOVER? 1257 00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:28,267 THAT'S IT. 1258 00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:29,567 THEY'RE PERMANENTLY LINED. 1259 00:59:29,601 --> 00:59:30,567 OH. 1260 00:59:30,601 --> 00:59:31,567 AND MY EYES ARE PERMANENTLY LINED. 1261 00:59:31,601 --> 00:59:32,767 MY EYEBROWS ARE PERMANENTLY LINED. 1262 00:59:32,801 --> 00:59:36,534 SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT. 1263 00:59:36,567 --> 00:59:39,701 MY GOODNESS. I DIDN'T KNOW. 1264 00:59:44,968 --> 00:59:46,701 YOU KNOW, I WOULD FEEL BETTER 1265 00:59:46,734 --> 00:59:48,934 IF WE DO A BEFORE AND AFTER WITH THE CAMERA 1266 00:59:48,968 --> 00:59:51,434 AND NOT DO SO MUCH OF THIS, PLEASE. 1267 00:59:51,467 --> 00:59:52,534 I THINK WE'RE GONNA START WITH 1268 00:59:52,567 --> 00:59:55,467 MAYBE THIS LONG LEATHER JACKET, CK. 1269 00:59:55,501 --> 00:59:56,667 KIND OF TOUGH BUT FITTED, 1270 00:59:56,701 --> 01:00:00,434 AND GIVE A SEXY LOOK, BUT IT'S A POWER LOOK, ALSO-- 1271 01:00:00,467 --> 01:00:01,801 "I'M IN CHARGE." 1272 01:00:01,834 --> 01:00:03,434 NO. I DON'T FEEL GOOD IN THIS. 1273 01:00:03,467 --> 01:00:04,501 THIS IS NOT ME. UH-UH. 1274 01:00:04,534 --> 01:00:05,501 FEEL TOO... 1275 01:00:05,534 --> 01:00:07,033 I'M TOO--IT'S JUST NOT ME AT ALL. 1276 01:00:07,067 --> 01:00:08,601 OK. 1277 01:00:08,634 --> 01:00:10,534 SHE BROUGHT A FEW THINGS OF HER OWN 1278 01:00:10,567 --> 01:00:13,300 THAT WE MIGHT NOT GET TO TODAY. 1279 01:00:13,334 --> 01:00:16,400 I GET SO SICK OF THIS HOLLYWOOD CRAP. 1280 01:00:16,434 --> 01:00:17,400 THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 1281 01:00:17,434 --> 01:00:18,400 I LIKE REAL. 1282 01:00:18,434 --> 01:00:19,868 I AGREE. 1283 01:00:19,901 --> 01:00:21,934 I'M AN OLD FARM GIRL AND I LIKE REAL. 1284 01:00:21,968 --> 01:00:25,367 SO THAT'S WHY I'M WEARING ALL THESE WIGS! 1285 01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:29,334 ♪ GLORIA, GLORIA ♪ 1286 01:00:30,234 --> 01:00:32,834 ♪ GLORIA, GLORIA ♪ 1287 01:00:32,868 --> 01:00:34,501 Tammy: I WAS A LITTLE DISCONCERTED. 1288 01:00:34,534 --> 01:00:36,467 THEY LOOK AT YOUR FACE AND FIGURE OUT THAT 1289 01:00:36,501 --> 01:00:37,634 YOU'VE GOT TO COCK IT THIS WAY TO LOOK GOOD. 1290 01:00:37,667 --> 01:00:38,634 THIS WAY? 1291 01:00:38,667 --> 01:00:41,801 Greg: YEAH. THAT'S PERFECT. 1292 01:00:42,667 --> 01:00:44,467 I DID HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF THE MASCARA OFF, 1293 01:00:44,501 --> 01:00:48,534 WHICH WAS OK WITH ME BECAUSE IT ENDED UP BEING WHAT I THOUGHT 1294 01:00:48,567 --> 01:00:49,868 A VERY GOOD LOOK FOR ME. 1295 01:00:49,901 --> 01:00:50,968 ♪ GLORIA ♪ 1296 01:00:51,067 --> 01:00:52,801 [SINGING IN LATIN] 1297 01:00:52,834 --> 01:00:54,567 I WANTED TO LEAVE THE PHOTO SESSION 1298 01:00:54,601 --> 01:00:56,567 AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE PLASTIC SURGEON. 1299 01:00:56,601 --> 01:00:59,133 COULD I HAVE AFFORDED IT, I WOULD HAVE, 1300 01:00:59,167 --> 01:01:00,534 BUT UNFORTUNATELY I'M STILL HERE. 1301 01:01:00,567 --> 01:01:03,801 RuPaul: THE NEXT DAY TAMMY WENT TO USA NETWORKS 1302 01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:05,434 TO PITCH HER IDEAS FOR TV SHOWS 1303 01:01:05,467 --> 01:01:07,734 TO NETWORK EXECUTIVE STEVEN CHOW, 1304 01:01:07,767 --> 01:01:10,133 CREATOR OF COPS AND STUDS. 1305 01:01:10,167 --> 01:01:11,133 HELLO. WELL, HI, STEVEN! 1306 01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:13,100 HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO MEET YOU. I'M TAMMY. 1307 01:01:13,133 --> 01:01:14,834 NICE TO MEET YOU. HI. HAVE A SEAT. 1308 01:01:14,868 --> 01:01:16,501 OK. THANK YOU. 1309 01:01:16,534 --> 01:01:17,501 SO YOU HERE TO PITCH SOMETHING. 1310 01:01:17,534 --> 01:01:19,567 WELL, YOU'RE HERE TO PITCH, SO START, RIGHT? 1311 01:01:19,601 --> 01:01:21,334 OK. WELL, NO, I-- 1312 01:01:21,367 --> 01:01:22,467 I'VE GOT 3 IDEAS, STEVEN, 1313 01:01:22,501 --> 01:01:25,934 AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU SEE ME AS DOING. 1314 01:01:25,968 --> 01:01:28,167 BUT ONE OF MY IDEAS IS A CHILDREN'S SHOW, 1315 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,267 WHERE WE TALK TO PUPPETS AND WE TALK TO THE KIDS, 1316 01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:33,701 AND THEN KIDS TALKING TO PUPPETS ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS 1317 01:01:33,734 --> 01:01:36,047 AND THEIR CONCERNS AND THINGS WHICH BOTHER THEM. 1318 01:01:36,067 --> 01:01:40,300 IT WOULD BE A FUN SHOW WITH SOME SERIOUS PARTS ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU KNOW. 1319 01:01:40,334 --> 01:01:42,234 IT'S A WAY TO GO. I'M NOT SURE IT'S-- 1320 01:01:42,267 --> 01:01:45,934 BUT WHAT ABOUT PUPPETS AND... EVERYBODY LOVES PUPPETS. EVEN ADULTS... 1321 01:01:45,968 --> 01:01:46,934 SURE. 1322 01:01:46,968 --> 01:01:48,367 LOVE PUPPETS. 1323 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,067 UH-HUH. 1324 01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,133 I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. 1325 01:01:51,167 --> 01:01:52,834 TEENAGERS NEED SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL. 1326 01:01:52,868 --> 01:01:55,367 THEY NEED A FORMAT FOR A LOT OF THINGS. 1327 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,634 AND THEY HAVE NO WAY-- THE BIGGEST THING THEY ALWAYS SAY, 1328 01:01:57,667 --> 01:02:00,767 "WELL, HOW DO WE GET ANYONE TO LISTEN TO US?" 1329 01:02:00,801 --> 01:02:03,534 AND I WOULD JUST LOVE TO GIVE THEM THAT CHANCE. 1330 01:02:03,567 --> 01:02:04,634 AND GO WHERE THEY GO. 1331 01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:07,400 I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIERCING PARLORS WITH THEM. 1332 01:02:07,434 --> 01:02:09,200 I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE TATTOO PLACES WITH THEM. 1333 01:02:09,234 --> 01:02:11,100 JUST DO EVERYTHING THAT TEENAGERS DO. 1334 01:02:11,133 --> 01:02:13,868 AND--AND YOU WOULD CALL THIS SHOW WHAT? 1335 01:02:13,901 --> 01:02:15,801 TAMMY'S TERRIFIC TEENS 1336 01:02:15,834 --> 01:02:17,267 WOULD BE A FUN TITLE. 1337 01:02:17,300 --> 01:02:18,267 AND, UM... 1338 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:19,501 ALL RIGHT. NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS. 1339 01:02:19,534 --> 01:02:22,901 YEAH, YEAH, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING FUN. 1340 01:02:22,934 --> 01:02:25,167 AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE MORE. HA HA HA. 1341 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,167 OK. NO, NO, NO. I MEAN, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK. 1342 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,834 OK. MEDICINE TODAY WITH TAMMY FAYE. 1343 01:02:28,868 --> 01:02:33,133 PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, 1344 01:02:33,167 --> 01:02:34,968 IN THE MARKET THAT'S COMING UP NEW 1345 01:02:35,067 --> 01:02:38,047 AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE-- THE OLD THINGS THAT WORK IN MEDICINE. 1346 01:02:38,067 --> 01:02:39,100 UM... 1347 01:02:39,133 --> 01:02:40,434 I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO GO SIT WITH ALZHEIMER'S PATIENTS 1348 01:02:40,467 --> 01:02:42,100 AND EXPLAIN ALL-- HAVE THE DOCTORS EXPLAIN ALZHEIMER'S. 1349 01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:43,868 AY YI YI. 1350 01:02:43,901 --> 01:02:45,868 I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST THROWING THESE OUT. 1351 01:02:45,901 --> 01:02:47,501 IT'S JUST IDEAS THAT I'VE HAD FROM BEING ON-- 1352 01:02:47,534 --> 01:02:50,200 YOU KNOW, JUST IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN SWIMMING AROUND IN MY HEAD. 1353 01:02:50,234 --> 01:02:53,133 WHAT DO YOU SEE ME DOING, STEVE? 1354 01:02:53,167 --> 01:02:54,133 YOU'RE THE-- I DON'T KNOW. 1355 01:02:54,167 --> 01:02:55,767 YOU'RE THE... I MEAN, I DON'T... 1356 01:02:55,801 --> 01:02:58,400 EXPERT. I MEAN, I THINK-- I SUSPECT, AND I'M 1357 01:02:58,434 --> 01:03:00,467 MAKING A STATEMENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE, 1358 01:03:00,501 --> 01:03:04,701 BUT I THINK THAT YOU WANT TO BE ON THE AIR. 1359 01:03:04,734 --> 01:03:06,367 YOU REALLY LIKE BEING IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA. 1360 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,634 WELL, I LOVE THE CAM-- I DO LOVE THE CAMERA. 1361 01:03:08,667 --> 01:03:10,133 BECAUSE I THINK-- WHY? 1362 01:03:10,167 --> 01:03:11,133 BECAUSE IT'S A PERSON. 1363 01:03:11,167 --> 01:03:12,567 I'VE NEVER BEEN IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA 1364 01:03:12,601 --> 01:03:14,501 SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE APPEAL. 1365 01:03:14,534 --> 01:03:16,200 BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE. IT'S NOT A CAMERA. 1366 01:03:16,234 --> 01:03:18,267 IT'S PEOPLE. IT'S SOMEONE TO TALK TO. 1367 01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:19,634 I--I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW. 1368 01:03:19,667 --> 01:03:20,934 YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. I CAN'T HELP-- 1369 01:03:20,968 --> 01:03:23,334 I CAN'T--I MEAN, I HAVE NO PLACE FOR A TALK SHOW. 1370 01:03:23,367 --> 01:03:24,334 I UNDERSTAND THAT, STEVEN. 1371 01:03:24,367 --> 01:03:25,934 I SHOULD WALK YOU DOWNSTAIRS TO LIFETIME 1372 01:03:25,968 --> 01:03:28,133 WHICH ABOUT 15 FLOORS BELOW US RIGHT NOW. 1373 01:03:28,167 --> 01:03:31,634 WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD PUT MY NAME IN AT LIFETIME, 1374 01:03:31,667 --> 01:03:34,067 SEE MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD BE INTERESTED THERE. 1375 01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:36,100 I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, STEVEN. 1376 01:03:36,133 --> 01:03:39,467 [TELEPHONE RINGING] 1377 01:03:40,868 --> 01:03:42,534 Woman: GOOD AFTERNOON, LIFETIME. 1378 01:03:42,567 --> 01:03:44,634 IS DAWN THERE? IT'S STEVEN CHOW. 1379 01:03:44,667 --> 01:03:45,767 RuPaul: THE CALL TO LIFETIME 1380 01:03:45,801 --> 01:03:48,734 WENT UNRETURNED, AND TAMMY FOUND OTHER NETWORKS 1381 01:03:48,767 --> 01:03:52,667 UNWILLING TO MEET AND DISCUSS HER TELEVISION COMEBACK. 1382 01:03:52,701 --> 01:03:56,801 SO SHE RETURNED TO THE DESERT... 1383 01:03:59,901 --> 01:04:02,334 Tammy: COME ON, MUFFIN. 1384 01:04:02,367 --> 01:04:04,300 [WHISTLING] 1385 01:04:04,334 --> 01:04:05,300 MUFFIN? 1386 01:04:05,334 --> 01:04:08,300 RuPaul: ALONE, WITH HER DOLLS, 1387 01:04:08,334 --> 01:04:09,300 HER DOGS... 1388 01:04:09,334 --> 01:04:11,067 YOU STAY, RIGHT THERE. 1389 01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:13,100 AND HER FAITH. 1390 01:04:13,133 --> 01:04:16,567 ♪ HALLELUJAH ♪ 1391 01:04:16,601 --> 01:04:20,067 ♪ HALLELUJAH ♪ 1392 01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:22,667 ♪ HALLELUJAH ♪ 1393 01:04:22,701 --> 01:04:25,367 Man: MY WIFE AND I RAN INTO TAMMY FAYE, 1394 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,734 AND WE'D MET HER PRIOR AND I SAID, 1395 01:04:27,767 --> 01:04:30,200 "WELL, TAMMY FAYE, WHY DON'T YOU COME TO CHURCH?" 1396 01:04:30,234 --> 01:04:32,734 AND SHE SAID, "OH, I COULDN'T COME TO CHURCH 1397 01:04:32,767 --> 01:04:34,200 BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DIVORCED." 1398 01:04:34,234 --> 01:04:36,901 WHEN WE DO KIND OF MISS THE MARK, 1399 01:04:36,934 --> 01:04:40,100 WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY IS COME BACK. 1400 01:04:40,133 --> 01:04:43,534 Tammy: GOING BACK TO CHURCH WAS VERY FRIGHTENING FOR ME. 1401 01:04:43,567 --> 01:04:45,167 BUT AS I WALKED IN OUR CHURCH, 1402 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,133 PASTOR JEFF CAME AND PUT THOSE GREAT BIG OL' ARMS AROUND ME, 1403 01:04:49,167 --> 01:04:52,968 AND HE SAID, "TAMMY FAYE, WE WANT YOU HERE." 1404 01:04:53,067 --> 01:04:54,334 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, 1405 01:04:54,367 --> 01:04:57,133 I BELONGED AT PASTOR JEFF'S CHURCH. 1406 01:04:57,167 --> 01:05:00,834 RuPaul: TODAY TAMMY LEADS THE CHOIR 1407 01:05:00,868 --> 01:05:03,067 AND PLAYS FRANK SINATRA'S ORGAN, 1408 01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,501 A BEQUEST TO THE CHURCH. 1409 01:05:04,534 --> 01:05:08,801 Tammy: YOU CANNOT GO FORWARD LOOKING IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR OF YOUR LIFE. 1410 01:05:08,834 --> 01:05:11,100 JUST DROP IT ALL AND MOVE ON 1411 01:05:11,133 --> 01:05:13,067 AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY IN LIFE 1412 01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:17,934 THAT YOU WILL EVER FIND PEACE, JOY AND VICTORY. 1413 01:05:24,133 --> 01:05:26,801 [GRRR] 1414 01:05:26,834 --> 01:05:29,300 RuPaul: FINALLY TAMMY HAD THE CONFIDENCE 1415 01:05:29,334 --> 01:05:30,534 TO SING AGAIN. 1416 01:05:30,567 --> 01:05:34,601 SHE ACCEPTED AN INVITATION TO SING AT ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY 1417 01:05:34,634 --> 01:05:37,367 IN THE HEART OF BIBLE COUNTRY. 1418 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,167 Tammy: I DREADED GOING BACK 1419 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,100 BECAUSE THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY HAD BEEN SO UNKIND TO US, 1420 01:05:43,133 --> 01:05:46,167 AND I FELT WE HAD BEEN JUDGED SO UNFAIRLY 1421 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,801 BY OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE LORD. 1422 01:05:48,834 --> 01:05:55,634 TO MAKE THE TRIP, TAMMY ALSO HAD TO OVERCOME HER FEAR OF FLYING. 1423 01:05:55,667 --> 01:05:58,767 I USED TO BE HORRIBLY NERVOUS ON AIRPLANES. 1424 01:05:58,801 --> 01:06:02,434 I'M ONLY SLIGHTLY NERVOUS ON AN AIRPLANE NOW, 1425 01:06:02,467 --> 01:06:04,133 AND IT'S GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME. 1426 01:06:04,167 --> 01:06:05,667 [THUNDER] 1427 01:06:05,701 --> 01:06:07,901 RuPaul: BAD WEATHER GROUNDED THE PLANE IN DALLAS. 1428 01:06:07,934 --> 01:06:11,047 Man: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE CAPTAIN SPEAKING. 1429 01:06:11,067 --> 01:06:12,133 THE GUST FRONT HAS JUST HIT, 1430 01:06:12,167 --> 01:06:15,701 SO WE ARE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 1431 01:06:15,734 --> 01:06:18,601 I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL. 1432 01:06:20,534 --> 01:06:22,567 I'M SCARED. 1433 01:06:25,167 --> 01:06:27,534 I THINK WE'RE SAFE IN HERE WITH LIGHTNING 1434 01:06:27,567 --> 01:06:31,667 BECAUSE IT'S GOT TIRES ON IT, RIGHT? 1435 01:06:32,601 --> 01:06:33,567 IF THIS PLANE DIDN'T HAVE TIRES ON IT, 1436 01:06:33,601 --> 01:06:36,367 WOULD WE ALL BE FRIED? 1437 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,501 I DON'T KNOW. 1438 01:06:39,868 --> 01:06:42,534 ♪ WHOO HOO ♪ 1439 01:06:43,367 --> 01:06:46,100 NOW, HERE ARE THE OPTIONS. WE'RE ALL HUNGRY. 1440 01:06:46,133 --> 01:06:51,167 Woman: WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SITTING HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER. 1441 01:06:51,734 --> 01:06:53,667 HELLO, TAMMY. [SILLY VOICE] WELL, HELLO THERE. 1442 01:06:53,701 --> 01:06:57,047 [REGULAR VOICE] ARE YOU ANXIOUS TO GET TO TULSA? 1443 01:06:57,067 --> 01:06:59,300 [SILLY VOICE] SURE AS HECK AM. 1444 01:06:59,334 --> 01:07:01,868 WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD DRIVE. 1445 01:07:01,901 --> 01:07:04,701 [REGULAR VOICE] ME, TOO, TAM. 1446 01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:31,167 Man: SHE'S A FABULOUS SINGER. 1447 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,567 UH, SHE REALLY CONNECTS WELL WITH THE PEOPLE. 1448 01:07:33,601 --> 01:07:38,047 THIS WAS HER FIRST CONCERT IN OVER A DECADE. 1449 01:07:38,067 --> 01:07:40,167 ♪ YOU GAVE ME ♪ 1450 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,734 ♪ THE CHANCE I NEEDED ♪ 1451 01:07:44,767 --> 01:07:48,701 ♪ TO START AGAIN ♪ 1452 01:07:48,734 --> 01:07:49,968 Tammy: I WAS VERY, VERY NERVOUS 1453 01:07:50,067 --> 01:07:53,100 BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW HOW I WOULD BE TREATED 1454 01:07:53,133 --> 01:07:54,868 AFTER SO MANY YEARS. 1455 01:07:54,901 --> 01:07:55,868 ♪ AND-- ♪ 1456 01:07:55,901 --> 01:07:58,701 THERE'S TOO MUCH BASS IN THIS DOWN HERE 1457 01:07:58,734 --> 01:07:59,701 IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. 1458 01:07:59,734 --> 01:08:02,334 ALL I'M HEARING IS BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. 1459 01:08:02,367 --> 01:08:05,200 David: THERE'S AN ELDERLY LADY IN MY DAD'S CHURCH, 1460 01:08:05,234 --> 01:08:07,968 AND WHEN SHE FOUND OUT THAT TAMMY FAYE 1461 01:08:08,067 --> 01:08:09,801 WAS GOING TO BE PREACHING AT BROTHER DAVID'S CHURCH, 1462 01:08:09,834 --> 01:08:12,067 SHE SAID, "WHY IS SHE COMING HERE?" 1463 01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:14,734 SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE STANDING IN THE RIGHT PLACE 1464 01:08:14,767 --> 01:08:16,567 WHILE TAMMY FAYE WAS COMING OUT OF HER ROOM 1465 01:08:16,601 --> 01:08:19,334 GETTING READY TO GO ON STAGE AND SING, 1466 01:08:19,367 --> 01:08:21,334 AND I DIDN'T SAY A WORD. 1467 01:08:21,367 --> 01:08:22,934 Tammy: HI, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? 1468 01:08:22,968 --> 01:08:26,067 I'M FINE. HOW ARE YOU, DARLIN'? 1469 01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:27,067 GOD BLESS YOU. BLESS YOUR HEART. 1470 01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:28,300 BLESS YOUR HEART. 1471 01:08:28,334 --> 01:08:31,300 David: THE NEXT DAY THIS LADY WAS SITTING ON THE SECOND ROW, 1472 01:08:31,334 --> 01:08:35,047 JUST WITH THIS BIG OL'-- I THINK THEY'RE HER OWN TEETH, BY THE WAY, TOO-- 1473 01:08:35,067 --> 01:08:36,968 THIS BIG OL' SET OF TEETH AND JUST SMILING 1474 01:08:37,067 --> 01:08:40,567 AND JUST ROOTING TAMMY ON AND RUBBING HER ON THE BACK AND PATTING HER. 1475 01:08:40,601 --> 01:08:41,801 SO TALKING ABOUT RESERVATIONS, 1476 01:08:41,834 --> 01:08:43,667 WHY DO CHRISTIANS HAVE RESERVATIONS? 1477 01:08:43,701 --> 01:08:45,334 BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HER. 1478 01:08:45,367 --> 01:08:46,734 Announcer: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, 1479 01:08:46,767 --> 01:08:50,601 TONIGHT'S SPECIAL GUEST: TAMMY FAYE. 1480 01:08:59,534 --> 01:09:00,501 Tammy Faye: WHEN I WALKED IN 1481 01:09:00,534 --> 01:09:03,047 AND WAS RECEIVED WITH SO MUCH LOVE 1482 01:09:03,067 --> 01:09:05,868 AND GENUINELY, THEY SEEMED HAPPY TO SEE ME, 1483 01:09:05,901 --> 01:09:08,601 WHICH I WAS GENUINELY HAPPY TO BE BACK 1484 01:09:08,634 --> 01:09:10,701 WHERE I ONCE BELONGED. 1485 01:09:10,734 --> 01:09:12,200 GOSH. 1486 01:09:13,734 --> 01:09:14,834 I NEED A KLEENEX. HA HA. 1487 01:09:14,868 --> 01:09:21,868 ♪ GLORY, GLORY, HALLELUJAH ♪ 1488 01:09:22,067 --> 01:09:29,067 ♪ GLORY, GLORY, HALLELUJAH ♪ 1489 01:09:30,601 --> 01:09:37,267 ♪ GLORY, GLORY HALLELUJAH ♪ 1490 01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:44,300 ♪ HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON ♪ 1491 01:09:46,167 --> 01:09:53,167 ♪ HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON ♪ 1492 01:10:00,901 --> 01:10:01,868 THANK YOU, LORD, 1493 01:10:01,901 --> 01:10:04,133 FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! 1494 01:10:04,167 --> 01:10:06,567 WE PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT, O FATHER. 1495 01:10:06,601 --> 01:10:11,667 WE THANK YOU, LORD, THAT WE LIVE IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY. 1496 01:10:11,701 --> 01:10:15,267 GOD BLESS AMERICA! 1497 01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:17,567 HALLELUJAH. 1498 01:10:17,601 --> 01:10:18,801 OH, YES. 1499 01:10:18,834 --> 01:10:21,234 Tammy Faye: IN ANCIENT CIVILIZATION, 1500 01:10:21,267 --> 01:10:24,868 IF YOU MURDERED SOMEBODY, THEY DIDN'T PUT YOU IN JAIL. 1501 01:10:24,901 --> 01:10:27,400 THEY DID SOMETHING FAR WORSE. 1502 01:10:27,434 --> 01:10:30,367 THEY TOOK THE PERSON THAT YOU MURDERED 1503 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,968 AND STUCK HIM ON YOUR BACK. 1504 01:10:32,067 --> 01:10:34,734 CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE 1505 01:10:34,767 --> 01:10:38,467 TO HAVE A DEAD PERSON STRAPPED TO YOUR BACK? 1506 01:10:38,501 --> 01:10:40,367 WELL, THE FIRST THING THAT STARTS HAPPENING, 1507 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,734 THEY START DECAYING. 1508 01:10:43,767 --> 01:10:46,434 OH, GOSH, AND THEY START SMELLING BAD 1509 01:10:46,467 --> 01:10:48,047 AND THEN BUGS GET ON THEM. 1510 01:10:48,067 --> 01:10:50,767 YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE THINGS THAT EAT THEM? 1511 01:10:50,801 --> 01:10:52,701 MAGGOTS! OOH! MAGGOTS! MAGGOTS! 1512 01:10:52,734 --> 01:10:56,667 I HAD JERRY FALWELL STRAPPED ON MY BACK FOR A LONG TIME. 1513 01:10:56,701 --> 01:10:59,901 HE WAS ON MY BACK STRAPPED SO TIGHTLY TO ME 1514 01:10:59,934 --> 01:11:01,767 I COULDN'T-- I COULDN'T BREATHE. 1515 01:11:01,801 --> 01:11:03,100 I COULD HARDLY EAT. 1516 01:11:03,133 --> 01:11:04,767 I HAD A HARD TIME SLEEPING. 1517 01:11:04,801 --> 01:11:08,167 I WAS MISERABLE. HE WAS DESTROYING MY LIFE. 1518 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,167 JERRY FALWELL WAS KILLING ME 1519 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,300 ALL BECAUSE I WAS SO ANGRY AT SOMEONE I COULDN'T FORGET. 1520 01:11:13,334 --> 01:11:16,567 NOW, WAS IT HURTING JERRY FALWELL THAT I WAS ANGRY? 1521 01:11:16,601 --> 01:11:18,200 HA HA HA HA. HE'S DEAD. 1522 01:11:18,234 --> 01:11:21,601 THE ONLY ONE IT WAS KILLING WAS TAMMY FAYE, 1523 01:11:21,634 --> 01:11:24,400 AND ONE DAY, I GAVE JERRY FALWELL TO THE LORD. 1524 01:11:24,434 --> 01:11:30,634 AND I SAID, "LORD, THERE'S NOT A THING I CAN DO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. 1525 01:11:30,667 --> 01:11:35,567 "IT'S GONE. I CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT WHAT JERRY FALWELL DID 1526 01:11:35,601 --> 01:11:37,434 "TO HERITAGE U.S.A. AND PTL. 1527 01:11:37,467 --> 01:11:38,734 "THAT'S ALL OVER, 1528 01:11:38,767 --> 01:11:41,267 "BUT I CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF 1529 01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:43,868 AND THE WAY I FEEL." 1530 01:11:48,734 --> 01:11:50,334 RuPaul: THANKSGIVING, 1998. 1531 01:11:50,367 --> 01:11:53,367 WITH JUST A FEW MONTHS TO GO TILL ROE'S RELEASE, 1532 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,868 TAMMY RETURNS TO HERITAGE U.S.A. 1533 01:11:54,901 --> 01:12:01,901 FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE SHE AND JIM LOST THEIR PTL MINISTRY IN 1987. 1534 01:12:02,501 --> 01:12:05,667 SINCE BANKRUPTCY, THE 2,200 ACRE COMPLEX 1535 01:12:05,701 --> 01:12:08,934 HAS LAIN EMPTY AND ABANDONED. 1536 01:12:11,601 --> 01:12:15,400 ♪ ON THE PAGES OF MY MIND ♪ 1537 01:12:15,434 --> 01:12:20,067 ♪ LORD, I OFTEN FIND ♪ 1538 01:12:20,901 --> 01:12:23,501 ♪ MEMORIES ♪ 1539 01:12:25,501 --> 01:12:28,467 ♪ OF THE TEARS I'VE CRIED ♪ 1540 01:12:28,501 --> 01:12:31,467 ♪ OF THE DAYS GONE BY ♪ 1541 01:12:31,501 --> 01:12:35,801 ♪ OF THE PAIN I'VE SEEN ♪ 1542 01:12:38,067 --> 01:12:44,567 ♪ OH, I TRIED TO UNDERSTAND WITH A FRIEND'S HELPING HAND ♪ 1543 01:12:44,601 --> 01:12:47,634 ♪ IT SEEMED FUTILITY... ♪ 1544 01:12:47,667 --> 01:12:52,801 Tammy Faye: JIM WOULD HAVE NEVER ALLOWED... 1545 01:12:52,834 --> 01:12:55,467 A CHAIR LIKE THIS... 1546 01:12:55,868 --> 01:12:56,834 TO SIT. 1547 01:12:56,868 --> 01:13:01,133 AT HERITAGE U.S.A. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAINTED. 1548 01:13:01,167 --> 01:13:03,367 HE NEVER ALLOWED A LIGHT BULB TO BE OUT, 1549 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,901 HE NEVER ALLOWED A DIRTY REST ROOM, 1550 01:13:05,934 --> 01:13:09,133 HE NEVER ALLOWED GRASS TO GROW UNCUT, 1551 01:13:09,167 --> 01:13:11,734 AND HE WOULD HAVE NEVER ALLOWED THIS. 1552 01:13:11,767 --> 01:13:16,200 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CHAIR RUSTED AWAY, 1553 01:13:16,234 --> 01:13:19,501 THAT'S SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HERITAGE U.S.A., 1554 01:13:19,534 --> 01:13:24,634 AND HOW I WOULD LOVE TO PUT A FRESH COAT OF PAINT ON IT... 1555 01:13:24,667 --> 01:13:26,434 AND MAKE IT LIVE AGAIN... 1556 01:13:26,467 --> 01:13:28,133 [SOBS] 1557 01:13:28,167 --> 01:13:34,133 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T DO THAT. 1558 01:13:35,434 --> 01:13:39,267 THIS MORNING, WHEN I WAS NEEDING SOME COMFORT, 1559 01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:42,601 I TURNED TO MY FAVORITE SCRIPTURE, PSALMS 91. 1560 01:13:42,634 --> 01:13:46,467 "HE THAT DWELLETH IN THE SECRET PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH 1561 01:13:46,501 --> 01:13:49,701 SHALL ABIDE UNDER THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY." 1562 01:13:49,734 --> 01:13:52,067 THIS IS THE PART I LIKE. 1563 01:13:58,067 --> 01:13:58,968 [REPRESSING TEARS] 1564 01:13:59,067 --> 01:14:02,167 "HE SHALL COVER THEE WITH HIS FEATHERS 1565 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:07,567 AND UNDER HIS WINGS SHALT THOU TRUST." 1566 01:14:08,901 --> 01:14:11,534 "BECAUSE HE HAS SET HIS LOVE UPON ME, 1567 01:14:11,567 --> 01:14:13,567 "THEREFORE WILL I DELIVER HIM. 1568 01:14:13,601 --> 01:14:17,801 "I WILL SET HIM ON HIGH BECAUSE HE HATH KNOWN MY NAME. 1569 01:14:17,834 --> 01:14:21,801 "HE SHALL CALL UPON ME AND I WILL ANSWER HIM. 1570 01:14:21,834 --> 01:14:23,767 "I WILL BE WITH HIM IN TROUBLE. 1571 01:14:23,801 --> 01:14:26,067 "I WILL DELIVER HIM AND HONOR HIM, 1572 01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:29,434 "AND WITH LONG LIFE, I WILL SATISFY HIM 1573 01:14:29,467 --> 01:14:32,767 AND SHOW HIM MY SALVATION." 1574 01:14:37,067 --> 01:14:42,901 I WILL HUG ROE TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2 YEARS 1575 01:14:42,934 --> 01:14:47,300 WITHOUT HAVING PEOPLE STANDING THERE WATCHING ME. 1576 01:15:05,834 --> 01:15:07,801 Roe: I'M STILL NUMB, REALLY. 1577 01:15:07,834 --> 01:15:11,267 YOU KNOW, BEING AWAY FROM YOUR WIFE AND FAMILY 1578 01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:13,334 IS REALLY HARD. 1579 01:15:13,367 --> 01:15:17,334 IT'S JUST...YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT 1580 01:15:17,367 --> 01:15:19,767 OTHER THAN THAT. 1581 01:15:21,767 --> 01:15:25,634 WELL, WE GOTTA GO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AGAIN. 1582 01:15:25,667 --> 01:15:27,367 GOOD-BYE. 1583 01:15:27,767 --> 01:15:31,634 Tammy Faye: I'M JUST A SMALL TOWN GIRL AT HEART 1584 01:15:31,667 --> 01:15:35,667 AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE TREES AND THE GRASS 1585 01:15:35,701 --> 01:15:42,167 AND THE FLOWERS AND MY KIDS AND MY GRANDKIDS. 1586 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,934 BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO IT, THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS. 1587 01:15:45,968 --> 01:15:50,133 THAT'S WHAT COUNTS IN LIFE, AND I'VE LEARNED THAT. 1588 01:15:50,167 --> 01:15:52,334 IT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE 1589 01:15:52,367 --> 01:15:54,634 AND--AND--AND STUFF. 1590 01:15:54,667 --> 01:15:57,167 IT'S PEOPLE THAT COUNT. 1591 01:16:05,634 --> 01:16:12,634 ♪ DON'T GIVE UP ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪ 1592 01:16:13,767 --> 01:16:20,767 ♪ DON'T GIVE IN WHILE HE'S STILL ON THE THRONE ♪ 1593 01:16:22,067 --> 01:16:29,067 ♪ DON'T GIVE UP ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪ 1594 01:16:30,067 --> 01:16:32,200 ♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪ 1595 01:16:32,234 --> 01:16:39,047 ♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪ 1596 01:16:39,067 --> 01:16:40,434 ♪ WELL, THE DEVIL IS A THIEF ♪ 1597 01:16:40,467 --> 01:16:46,834 ♪ AND HE SENDS ALL THOSE TROUBLES TO CONFOUND YOU ♪ 1598 01:16:46,868 --> 01:16:48,801 ♪ AND HE LIES AND SAYS THIS TIME ♪ 1599 01:16:48,834 --> 01:16:55,701 ♪ THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN FIND TO MAKE IT THROUGH ♪ 1600 01:16:55,734 --> 01:16:57,534 ♪ GOD'S WORD IS TRUE ♪ 1601 01:16:57,567 --> 01:16:59,934 ♪ THE DEVIL IS THE LORD'S ♪ 1602 01:16:59,968 --> 01:17:01,434 ♪ DON'T GIVE IN TO FEAR ♪ 1603 01:17:01,467 --> 01:17:04,047 ♪ THINK ON THINGS THAT ARE PURE ♪ 1604 01:17:04,067 --> 01:17:05,534 ♪ AND PRAISE THE LORD ♪ 1605 01:17:05,567 --> 01:17:10,567 ♪ YOUR MIRACLE IS HERE ♪ 1606 01:17:10,601 --> 01:17:17,601 ♪ DON'T GIVE UP ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪ 1607 01:17:19,434 --> 01:17:20,834 ♪ DON'T YOU GIVE IN ♪ 1608 01:17:20,868 --> 01:17:27,367 ♪ GOD IS STILL ON HIS THRONE ♪ 1609 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,567 ♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪ 1610 01:17:28,601 --> 01:17:35,467 ♪ YOU'RE ON THE BRINK OF YOUR MIRACLE ♪ 1611 01:17:35,501 --> 01:17:36,834 ♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪ 1612 01:17:36,868 --> 01:17:43,200 ♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪ 1613 01:17:43,234 --> 01:17:44,701 ♪ NOW, DON'T GIVE UP ♪ 1614 01:17:44,734 --> 01:17:51,501 ♪ ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪ 1615 01:17:51,534 --> 01:17:52,767 ♪ DON'T GIVE IN ♪ 1616 01:17:52,801 --> 01:17:59,167 ♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪ 1617 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,200 ♪ OH, DON'T GIVE IN ♪ 1618 01:18:01,234 --> 01:18:08,234 ♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪ 1619 01:18:09,067 --> 01:18:11,467 ♪ YOU'RE NOT ALONE! ♪ 1620 01:18:11,501 --> 01:18:13,501 COME ON, PEOPLE, DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP! 125472

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